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[3:09] So we can still continue. So, glad we'll just start with you, please.
[5:45] The tax differential, you say, shall meet with us, or are you saying the shall language is to preserve the tax differential? Are we talking language specific to having a meeting to discuss the tax differential?
[6:02] We are in mate.
[15:00] So, if you can improve the property on top, that's what improves most of the value of the whole second. But in this scenario, you would tax land at a higher rate so that if land is just sitting there, it would pet more, I guess.
[15:17] I would like to be, if there's any way that just at least push that out. If it's something that's started to come through, I would like to see Cambridge join in on that discussion because with our vacant property problem we have.
[15:30] That's a way to fight it.
[15:32] I wouldn't want to be just at Baltimore just to join the party.
[15:36] They need any help.
[15:39] Cambridge for the rescue.
[15:40] Yeah, I mean we have very similar issues.
[15:44] We do.
[15:45] We do.
[15:45] We do.
[15:48] Yep.
[15:50] Sorry.
[17:24] The reference to this discussion that cities, live,
[17:31] cities have taxed
[17:35] us that we should maybe
[17:36] reference.
[17:37] He
[18:30] said just now I went out my
[28:12] attention to those people or juveniles that are put in in the system.
[30:00] In just six months, that's a lot of demand in our police department. I've talked a little
[30:08] about the issue before, and there's been legislation that's been proposed. I mean, it's
[30:15] anything new, trying to hold parents accountable and juveniles. But in court to have, there's
[30:22] a strong coalition of Democrats that don't want to have anything to do with holding juveniles
[30:27] parents accountable, and they can't get in the past. So, maybe this is good. The City of
[30:34] Cambridge has this as a priority, perhaps has Chief Todd come and present this, and maybe
[30:41] some of the opposition, and I'm not saying whether it's Republican or Democrat, but the opposition
[30:47] might start coming around. It's not getting past, so it's important for the MML to have this
[30:54] conversation also. Yeah, and Mr. Somers, I diverse are don't know. I will say it's a it's a female
[31:02] Democrat senator that actually, you know, introduced it. So while he may be inclined to believe
[31:11] that the Democrat and of course I know it's a majority Democrat house and straight up or house
[31:15] rather. But it was, it was definitely a female Democrat senator that introduced this.
[31:24] and she's probably had been one of the long most long standing elected officials in the
[31:31] Senate.
[31:34] So I wish I had the answer very often. I'll be honest I don't you know I don't know but
[31:43] I think this goes back to something that Mayor Cifis Bay had brought up at our e-set meeting.
[31:52] We
[31:53] with not just ours, our senators and delegates,
[31:56] but all pretty much as many senators and delegates
[31:58] that will come from every other county
[32:01] so that we can acknowledge and address the concerns
[32:04] that we have released and sure,
[32:05] and obviously certainly this would be one of the ones
[32:08] that we would bring up so that they can hear
[32:10] from the other municipalities
[32:12] as to why it's important and so forth,
[32:14] with the hope that we would get more buy-in
[32:15] than just our three delegates in our one senator.
[32:19] Because they may not know her.
[32:20] Yeah, because
[32:25] sometimes when you go to the Maryland General Center website, it will tell you why it failed in the committee.
[32:31] What I identified was, they said that there's already mechanisms in our current law that allows that to happen, but not to speak negative on the state's attorney's office, but they're not taking that initiative.
[32:47] You know, so that making this is available, but it's not something that you could point at
[32:54] and say, let's use that.
[32:56] Sometimes it doubles in the details too.
[32:58] I don't know how legislation's written in regard to parent accountability.
[33:04] I think it's very family-friendly.
[33:09] I don't think it's about taking children from parents.
[33:12] I think it's about providing support.
[33:14] And it's not about putting parents in jail.
[33:16] So now I'm going to about find that's about a part of the parent to be engaged, which means counseling, attending meetings, you know, so that it can be more responsible based on what I read.
[33:36] I'm just decreased,
[33:43] numbers aren't going to be the
[33:56] way to start reporting on the number.
[34:27] I want this to happen. It seems like it's the worst outcome for the kids, they're dying still, and it's the worst outcome for the police, it's the worst outcome for everyone.
[34:35] But yes, well, now we've got mechanisms to deal with that.
[34:39] Okay.
[34:39] Okay.
[34:41] And the third or the same?
[34:43] Yes.
[34:44] You would not be able to do correctly.
[34:46] So, yeah, any data that is official that basically we can provide to them just so they know.
[34:53] That seems to be, I mean, that's the important piece here.
[34:57] And I think that's why we have the curfew.
[35:00] It wasn't too criminalized children.
[35:02] Absolutely.
[35:03] Collect data.
[35:04] And to be able to get the service is needed but instead I'm saying stop bothering me now
[35:10] They say oh right question now you actually can you know I understand I mean, I remember you saying that
[35:16] They're like yeah, we know we're not supposed to be out and that that's a healthy engagement
[35:21] Versus like get out of here. You're harassing me, right. I know I'm trying to help
[35:26] You ever testified
[35:34] there's a lot of cheese that have a cheap,
[35:36] fake, ornamented, and has a couple others,
[35:40] couple of sheriffs have as well.
[35:44] The advocate when this comes up,
[35:46] that we should be at the table,
[35:47] is where I'd be.
[35:48] It's where I'd be.
[35:49] It's where I'd be.
[35:49] It's where I'd be.
[35:49] It's where I'd be.
[35:49] It's where I'd be.
[35:50] Yeah.
[40:24] They have a lot on their plate off to it,
[40:26] and it's just, I'm sure that that's the least of its concern
[40:29] when it comes to work every day.
[40:31] But some surprise.
[40:33] Yeah, yeah.
[40:34] But I always gotta look at it.
[40:36] But I do feel like there's probably
[40:38] some simple legislation so that it couldn't ever become a problem because from the
[40:42] other standpoint we have a marina that we have people that come and they pay a
[40:47] daily rate to stay in you know the county is nice enough to let people
[40:51] dark now I guess 24 hours at no charge just to come up and maybe go to a
[40:56] restaurants or walk the town or whatever see the murals great you know but at the
[41:01] same time is not really fair if somebody is not actually playing by their
[41:06] rules, and particularly if there are hazards to other boats.
[41:12] The request is if there's other legislation that would be common sense to give the county
[41:18] when clearly something is a problem, the enforcement capability to DNR is not exercising for
[41:24] whatever reason.
[41:30] R&T, if you're hanging out in a boat in a map list for a certain amount of time with no registration
[41:35] and dumping your extra minute report, they're handling it.
[41:38] So why not in Cambridge, you know, so again, I
[41:46] mean God willing someday we have such a busy
[41:48] creek that it is a problem, you know, you could have been a problem a month ago.
[41:54] Yeah, you know, well once you sell a boat that's on, hitting other boats or hitting a dock.
[42:00] Well, a couple years ago somebody pulled their boat up to Muir Street, I think, and it sunk.
[42:05] and then that the the association had to pay to get the thing removed. Yeah, it was a
[42:11] better side forward. Yeah, I mean, it's a very good vote tied up to it. The person is not paying the bill.
[42:18] I mean, we have rented it, but we don't, like in a federal channel. I mean,
[42:37] we need to take it into our hands.
[42:39] I mean, I want
[42:44] to penalize the ability for votes to come into our create and patronize our businesses
[42:48] and go to our murals and walk our town and explore and all that and this is clearly
[42:55] worst case scenario suddenly. This is kind of the YouTube channel by the way. I have
[43:00] yet to get pop-ups that he's updated and I'm like worst case scenario. It catches on
[43:05] and next thing you know we've got 10 votes that are doing this.
[43:09] How
[43:12] would you regulate even if they created legislation but would the regulation of the
[43:17] and the legislation looked like the city.
[43:20] I have for whatever an apple is sort of towering in these other communities that have
[43:24] legislation.
[43:25] I don't know if their law enforcement has the ability to do it, or whether the sheriff's
[43:29] department, or whether they actually can ask DNR to enforce the law.
[43:34] I mean, it might be the CPD can just say, hey, this is your jurisdiction, we need to do
[43:38] something about it.
[43:39] We did bring DNR in for one of the instances I recall, it improved a little bit, but in
[43:47] you know, when folks don't want to follow the law,
[43:50] they don't want to follow the law,
[43:51] and you've got to have constant enforcement.
[43:54] So, good guided enforcement also be,
[43:57] not that I don't want to see the police have a vote,
[43:59] but you haven't answered it.
[44:01] Yeah, no, that's not what it is.
[44:03] Well, no, the fire company gets about the first time.
[44:05] Yeah, come on, Eric.
[44:06] So, yeah, but-
[44:08] It's not a mystery.
[44:10] It's partially an issue being able to try to think.
[44:15] I'm standing in that in visual clearly over the brain, but choose not to because there's a weekly daily monthly therapy.
[44:24] And in that, you can set rules or regulations.
[44:27] So you have to, when I have to give the jurisdiction, that audit water to the local jurisdiction so they can pose more involves,
[44:37] which is the logical solution in this case because you put a number of
[44:42] more involves and you get in charge after a race period if you want.
[44:48] So we don't have that authority now, we state, give a local jurisdiction out of
[44:52] authority and that's what we're seeking.
[44:53] Yes.
[44:54] Okay, got it.
[44:54] And then I guess with that it's like, you know, would it be then, whoever, in terms of
[45:00] And whether it's the city or the county that has that authority, where they then get registered
[45:07] or individuals on occupancy to the vassals at some type of visual cue that would say that
[45:19] you're permitted to be here or you're not permitted to be here because at a glance, how do
[45:24] you know who's permitted and who's not? You don't understand, like, you don't want to create
[45:29] more work and I think maybe I'm putting the cart before the horse here but I
[45:34] definitely think those are things that we really need to be thinking through
[45:38] when that power is given to ensure that it's not going to be taxoned on whoever
[45:45] ever, this ends up being housework.
[1:00:00] q contraceptive act that the bid to the, the the the, the, the, the the moments of German, that is phase one so phase one
[1:00:10] cannot be, but also create the problem of water not being able to get to the river.
[1:00:19] So can but the water that's not even getting to the river is going into is also going into
[1:00:24] our sewer system. So can we have in phase one focus on preventing that storm water from
[1:00:32] getting into the sewer? Is that a phase one? Probably because that's going to take the pressure
[1:00:37] off of our sewer. Well that's part of it because they're going to use the argument to address
[1:00:44] storm water. The secondary benefit will be the way it just happens to be that way. But I'm
[1:00:50] So, because that phase one, basically, let's fix this storm order, that phase one.
[1:00:56] Right, because if we can keep the influx out, we are at the pump capacity.
[1:01:02] We are actually have those things in the pipeline.
[1:01:05] But to me, like the green infrastructure components, the making sure storm order is handled in a way that it's not actually getting there.
[1:01:15] All of that, I would hope this phase one.
[1:01:17] Well, I believe it is, but if the staff is going to be an expert, so you're going to be
[1:01:23] and we're going to talk about what does the city want to support this or not?
[1:01:30] Because we don't need that affidavit to use the easements from property owners to divert
[1:01:37] stormwater.
[1:01:38] You don't?
[1:01:39] Well, we do, to build a living shoreline, unless you might be willing to property to all
[1:01:44] all of a sudden change was going borderline, so I mean we were, I think the way I understood
[1:01:51] it is, we can't get that lead in Toronto bill unless he's got buy-in from the property
[1:01:57] inners and he was going to provide us like quarterly reports and I've yet to see one report
[1:02:02] on that.
[1:02:03] So my assumption is that I'm not going to say that anyone's failure, my assumption doesn't
[1:02:08] have any buy-in.
[1:02:09] He said he'd be waving him around.
[1:02:12] Actually, he's had some buying.
[1:02:14] I will tell you what happened.
[1:02:15] How do you know?
[1:02:16] And we know.
[1:02:17] Because wouldn't we ask for him to tell us?
[1:02:20] Because I attend meetings with them every Monday and eight.
[1:02:24] And I ask to talk individually with property owners.
[1:02:27] Let me tell you where the problem is.
[1:02:30] A lot of us people don't trust us.
[1:02:33] The city, all the people around this table.
[1:02:36] because a lot of promises have been made in the past and have not been kept so we
[1:02:43] have a real trust issue here that we literally you know have to sit down with
[1:02:50] most of the individual properties some of those folks are well known and when one
[1:02:56] of them turned around and said to me after I've worked with them so many times I
[1:03:01] don't trust the city you could not be over with a better it took a lot of wind
[1:03:06] and out of me that day because I was so disappointed
[1:03:10] that here we are working with you on other things
[1:03:13] and you don't trust us.
[1:03:16] And I think we have to remember
[1:03:19] that is what's causing a part of the problem,
[1:03:22] is it causing all the problem down,
[1:03:25] but it is causing enough problem
[1:03:27] that it's making a difference.
[1:03:29] Oh, it isn't far enough.
[1:03:30] I don't feel like we have had any real data presented us
[1:03:36] since we asked for it with a contract or no.
[1:03:38] So I don't blame them.
[1:03:40] Like, I mean, to me, I want to have an open door.
[1:03:42] I think we all want to sell the crown,
[1:03:43] but it's like, you're in meetings, and then we,
[1:03:47] I know specifically, we were supposed to get updates
[1:03:51] from this guy as part of this contract,
[1:03:53] and we've yet to see this.
[1:03:55] So I wouldn't trust any of them.
[1:03:58] Update, what if Chief wouldn't give us crime data
[1:04:03] when we, you know, quarterly?
[1:04:04] I mean, do you trust him?
[1:04:07] No, you say you're hiding something.
[1:04:08] And that's why the city's taking full control of the project over.
[1:04:12] That's a smart idea, I agree with that.
[1:04:13] Okay, Mr. White has always been a contractor for the city.
[1:04:19] Yeah.
[1:04:20] He doesn't get the money.
[1:04:21] The money flows through and she disperses with our approval to his contractors.
[1:04:28] But he's been paying himself as a contractor.
[1:04:30] He gets paid himself.
[1:04:31] But we also are paying for Bayland. We're also paying for
[1:04:36] foreign going. And I don't know all the
[1:05:02] good approach going this
[1:05:06] we get this
[1:05:06] real back in probably to just start doing the phases on the city's
[1:05:10] property such as Marina, such as Long War, such as Green March, and if there's
[1:05:15] those who don't want to be a part of it, we have to come
[1:05:25] in with a whole project that is a
[1:05:28] approved and signed all. The question is, is the city wanting this? Does the city believe in
[1:05:38] this project? All side will say to you. And the reason why I see potential for free money to
[1:05:49] address a lot of issues that the city has ignored, not in the last five, 10, 15, 30 years.
[1:06:00] And you, this isn't as a city.
[1:06:02] We have an opportunity in one fell swoop to get this issue addressed where we won't
[1:06:10] be hearing people say, I can't run down water street even when it has water.
[1:06:16] we were not going to let iron run down water stream anymore if we have a storm of
[1:06:24] that effect because they're running in contaminated water and if they have
[1:06:29] an open scratch on them in any way it's asking for bacteria to get into that but
[1:06:35] we've already had that discussion about it. We're saying the same thing we're
[1:06:38] just saying change the priority of the funding and do all the infrastructure stuff
[1:06:50] I thought we'd inquired about that and the answer was we couldn't.
[1:06:55] Okay, I don't believe that.
[1:06:57] It's
[1:07:01] written in the call.
[1:15:20] We
[1:15:24] did give a list of properties that have the county has not been collecting taxes on, we're
[1:15:30] sure term rentals, and they are supposed to be addressing that because once again, they
[1:15:36] like the tax, and we're committed to us. So we are actually, I shouldn't have done a serious
[1:15:42] matter, but we are actually having to make enough accidents. If we're going to have it,
[1:15:53] it should be enforced. It should be enforced by those who want to comply, and those who don't want
[1:16:00] to comply ignore us. And that's the biggest challenge we deal with. People don't want to comply.
[1:16:07] So they should use to ignore us, I mean, we have to go fairer to them now.
[1:16:19] Even pay for the room tax, but well, maybe it would, I don't know.
[1:16:22] But when we first went down that room, we wanted to keep it simple.
[1:16:26] We wanted to have common sense fairer.
[1:16:28] It's just because it really protects city
[1:16:36] -wide companies that specialize in basically
[1:16:39] they pull Airbnb or BIO come away, all the listings, and they essentially provide you
[1:16:45] that are clearly my future term.
[1:16:48] And you don't have to fare it amount
[1:16:50] because they don't advertise that I'm not
[1:16:52] going to get much business of pretty easy
[1:16:54] that I have to find who is.
[1:16:58] And we did that exact same thing.
[1:16:59] Yeah, that third part would be done.
[1:17:02] Yeah, we would.
[1:17:03] I don't know.
[1:17:04] I guess the staff time is actually
[1:17:06] that in contact and that in front of it.
[1:17:08] Because then we have a license requirement.
[1:17:10] Well, there's a license.
[1:17:12] the information has to be turned over to the county to do their job, because they're the collector of these fees in that situation,
[1:17:25] and nothing else for you.
[1:17:26] Hey Glenn, has our lobbyists made any proposals and will he attend the session with the
[1:17:35] delhi?
[1:17:36] Yes.
[1:17:37] And we are having that discussion with them.
[1:17:40] We are also making sure he knows what we're looking at.
[1:17:44] And we want to make sure that his associate who helps support him Mr. Evans is aware of it.
[1:17:51] So they may have some suggestions as well.
[1:17:53] And I have not seen the NMLs in the state of Michigan, unless the mayor or the mission president.
[1:18:03] We have our four-country in-set temper, so next month we'll probably be updated.
[1:18:17] Oh, perfect. So can I ride with you? So I don't get a speed in ticket?
[1:18:25] Yeah, no, that's okay. I'll go ahead and drive.
[1:18:34] That
[1:18:48] the staff is going to prepare the presentation that will be presented, but council will be, of course,
[1:18:57] assist life be available to continue to have any dialogue with the representatives for us.
[1:19:33] But just to the point that Commissioner Cisco bring up and this isn't towards anybody in the room, but I do understand if you're having staff prepare presentation, but we are the elected body, so I'm just going to ask for and I don't know what staff you were having, but just that there is a level respect back to us because the minute we say something back or the minute we question, there's an issue, so I just want to say it in an open setting.
[1:20:02] that while you have them do that, this is the elected body and we very much so
[1:20:06] had every right to ask what questions we want to challenge what we want, of course
[1:20:12] in a respectful way, but that there needs to be a level of respect back from staff so
[1:20:15] that we're not getting huffs and puffs and eyes rolls and then whatever's
[1:20:19] because I can promise you it won't be-
[1:20:21] I don't think there's no certainty.
[1:21:39] The things that I do want to kind of bring out, I mean we have heard and know, you know,
[1:21:45] the light of the incident or accident at 16 is the boundary and the gentleman that lost
[1:21:52] or the person that lost in the light.
[1:21:55] I think that definitely this is something where while stay highway administration, this
[1:22:00] has been a conversation and they are actively trying to secure funding to do something there.
[1:22:07] I definitely think that this is something that all of the legislators should be aware of also
[1:22:14] to advocate for something that actually happened sooner than later.
[1:22:19] I'll just say I have reached out to every legislator that represents this area as well
[1:22:25] as the governor's office.
[1:22:27] I know Glenn has made contact with State Highway for this.
[1:22:30] That's where my name is.
[1:25:11] That's two regional State Highway Administration meetings.
[1:25:14] Glenn has been there.
[1:25:15] I've actively brought this to the table during those meetings.
[1:25:20] Ms. Lincoln, her husband actually was a fatality at that intersection coming up on four
[1:25:28] years.
[1:25:29] So she emailed again today.
[1:25:31] A lot of people that was on the email, they're no longer here in the city, I didn't
[1:25:36] respond, I added more, I added some other individuals from state highway.
[1:25:42] But I'm just saying what we talked about, these legislative priorities, I'm glad for Mr. President
[1:25:47] you mentioned, you know, version out to our state officials, but we cannot allow this to die off.
[1:25:55] I mean, I think the more advocacy we can get there, I think the sooner something can be done.
[1:26:04] And to your point, the traffic signal may not have prevented it, but something has to happen there.
[1:26:11] And I even mentioned in my email today, even if they put two additional stocks to make it
[1:26:17] before we stopped until they get funding to do something,
[1:26:21] or maybe something.
[1:26:23] So, for
[1:27:59] the roundabout, I think
[1:28:33] that was mentioned
[1:28:34] in the regional say highway meeting that when this came up
[1:28:38] for some solution there, the advocacy
[1:28:44] was for a roundabout there.
[1:28:46] They did that study.
[1:28:48] And because of the industrial area,
[1:28:51] It was going to cost significantly more money to put around about at 16, and which
[1:29:01] is why they ended up losing the money that was allocated for it, and then they went back after the study and said they were waiting for funding, which was the last thing that I got Judy Afe from someone else to the highway in terms of the okay.
[1:30:02] You know, we all have
[1:30:08] to read extended, which
[1:30:25] you mentioned are very much problematic. Yeah. I can't tell the race street. I mean, race and boundary, like, there's been quite a few accidents, and then I use that intersection 20 times a day. Another motorcycle. Yeah, when you look at Washington Street, I mean, so like literally each, every one of these roads that, and I say this respectfully, that it's state highway, they are problematic for us in the city.
[1:30:53] and so one fatality is one too many and you know you said that the meeting or I
[1:31:02] think Brandon just mentioned the meeting may have been a couple months ago you
[1:31:05] said that they invited us I don't know maybe they're only inviting me to send
[1:31:08] the email you but I don't I don't see it so we got a tight enough on this you know
[1:31:14] if we're supposed to do something personality decide love hates aside they need
[1:31:21] to we need to do what we need to do to make it happen but for them to say
[1:31:26] they've invited us I don't the do you all get to invite because I didn't
[1:31:30] so the
[1:31:46] state meetings I'm aware but if we're meeting with the county to come
[1:31:50] with a joint stay highway priority list with who's getting invited to that
[1:31:56] meeting because none of us got well it's a county
[1:33:20] Exited going towards the state hospital and
[1:33:24] it's horrible flooding there and I've actually told a car trying to drive from there
[1:33:28] And then it gets to the point. There's no way around because it floods on the other side of stone boundary as well
[1:33:37] Isn't the other side going down to the state hospital or our road? It is our road. So we need to take a look at that
[1:33:44] Yeah, it just floods horribly and it's mainly because
[1:33:47] 16 is so high and the roundabout is high, so when the water disperses, there's a heavy rain, it just pulls right there at the base of it.
[1:33:58] They may have some responsibility for strong water.
[1:34:06] Yeah, I mentioned it to Wayne in another meeting.
[1:34:15] Anything else? Is there a motion to adjourn?
[1:34:17] So moved. Practice.
[1:34:18] All in favor say aye.
[1:34:19] Aye.
[1:34:20] I