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» Thank you everybody for being here. This

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is the Tuesday, September 1st, 2020,

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2026

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uh meeting of the Cammy County Board of

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Commissioners. We're going to begin

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opening ceremonies with a invocation by

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Commissioner Goodman, followed by the

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pledge of allegiance.

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Gentlemen, remove your covers, please.

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Let us stand as you're able.

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Let us pray.

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Our Father and our God in heaven, we

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come to thee humbling ourselves in

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prayer, asking for your guidance

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tonight. Father, there's sickness in

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this community and we want to hold up

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one of your servants,

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Sydney, who is in Jacksonville, Sydney

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and his family. We don't question your

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will. We ask that you comfort them, be

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with them. We ask also that you be with

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your servant, our fellow commissioner

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Martin Turner, as he performs

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ministerial dut duties.

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to your will. Father, we ask always for

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your protection for those who serve us

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in uniform both here and abroad. pray.

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We pray for their safety that they will

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go home at the end of their shift to

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their families.

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All of these things, Father, we ask in

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thy name. Amen.

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» Pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Okay, roll call.

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» Commissioner Turner is absent.

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» Yeah, Commissioner Turner is not here.

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He's ministering to the Howell family,

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so he won't attend tonight. Moving on to

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the uh

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amendments to the agenda. I think we

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have one item to add under executive

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session to litigation. We have personnel

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and real estate already listed. We want

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to add litigation to that. So, um, I'll

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make a motion we adopt the agenda as

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amended to add litigation to the

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executive session.

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well, we have a motion. I have one more

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» I have one more amendment I'd like to

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» I'm sorry.

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» I have one more amendment I'd like to

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make, but you have a motion.

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» You want to amend the motion?

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» Uh, I want to amend the agenda.

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» We have a motion on the floor to adopt

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the agenda as amended.

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» Correct. There was one more amendment

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I'd like to make. You were a little

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quick on the draw. Nobody else could get

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» I don't I can't hear you.

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» I'd like to remove item eight from the

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agenda. Um Commissioner Commissioner

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» Um which item

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» Had some things he wanted to discuss

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with us and and since he can't be here,

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» I wanted to to possibly remove that.

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It's a consideration of bid award for

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janitorial services.

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» Okay. So you want to amend the motion to

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» I wanted to move amend the agenda but

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you made a motion

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» You want to move the first reading of

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the parks and wreck from the agenda.

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» No number eight consideration of bid

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award for janitorial services contract.

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» Okay I resend my motion. I'll let you

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make the motion.

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» Well I I would just like to add the

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amendment to remove that off the

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» Handle in two separate actions.

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» Yeah.

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» Right. two separate actions.

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» So you made a motion to remove correct

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» The parks.

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» The motion on the floor add litigation

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to executive session session. Yes,

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» That's it.

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» Second, Mr. Chairman.

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» It's seconded now. Okay.

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» We have a motion and a second to add

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executive session to the litigation to

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the executive session.

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» That is the motion. Right. We have a

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motion and a second. All in favor?

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Finally got that one. Now, let's move on

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to the next one.

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» Yes. Uh I I would like as I would like I

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would move to amend the agenda to remove

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item number eight uh until Commissioner

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Turner could be with us to discuss that.

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He had some things he wanted to

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» Okay.

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» To address.

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» Okay. So, we have a motion to uh remove

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item number eight from the agenda.

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» Second.

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» We have a motion and a second. All in

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favor?

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Anybody opposed?

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Okay, now we've got that straight. Let's

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move on.

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Uh move on to the approval of the

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minutes for the August 18th, 2026

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regular meeting in executive session.

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Entertain a motion to approve.

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» Make a motion to approve the agenda

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items uh the minute items as specified.

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» Uh second.

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» We have a motion and a second. All in

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favor?

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Motion carries.

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Okay, we have a couple of presentations

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before us tonight. Uh first one is

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uh recognition of the month of September

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as suicide prevention month.

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» Good evening, gentlemen. Uh tonight

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we're going to present a proclamation

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for the Camd County Board of

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Commissioners to recognize the month of

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September 2026 as suicide prevention

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awareness month. And this is just an

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excerpt from the proclamation. Uh

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whereas September is recognized across

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the United States as National Suicide

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Prevention Awareness Month, a time

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dedicated to increasing awareness of the

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resources and support available to

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individuals in crisis and to

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highlighting the importance of mental

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health and emotional well-being. And

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whereas September 10th is nationally and

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internationally recognized as World

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Suicide Prevention Day, providing an

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important opportunity to educate our

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community about the warning signs of

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emotional distress and actions we can

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take to support those most at risk. And

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whereas the Camden Suicide Prevention

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Coalition serves as a leader in local

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efforts to promote awareness and

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prevention practices representing a

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collaborative partnership of

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organizations, agencies, businesses, and

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residents united in a shared mission to

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foster hope, promote safety, and

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strengthen our community's ability to

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recognize and respond to signs of

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depression and suicide risk.

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And whereas hope, help, and healing are

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possible and crisis intervention

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resources are available in Camden

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County, including the suicide and crisis

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lifeline at 988,

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offering free and confidential support

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24 hours a day, 7 days a week. And now

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therefore, it be it proclaimed that the

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Camden County Board of Commissioners

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hereby declares the month of September

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2026 as Suicide Prevention Awareness

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Month and Thursday, September 10, 2026

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as Suicide Prevention Day throughout

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Camden County. And this is proclaimed

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the first day of September 2026. And we

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do have a couple of representatives from

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the Camden Suicide Prevention Coalition

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to receive the proclamation and to

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excuse me, join you for a picture.

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The front row stays exactly where they

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are and the back row takes one step this

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way.

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And just as a special reminder with

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that, um the Camden Suicide Prevention

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Coalition has been very active lately.

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Um later this month on the 17th, there's

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going to be Voices of Hope. It's a forum

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on mental health and wellness. Uh it's

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going to be at 6 PM at the Camdi County

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High School Lecture Hall and we're going

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to have panelists including our own

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commissioners Turner and Smith. They're

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going to speak to participants and we're

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also going to have representatives from

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local government, education,

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faith-based, military and veterans, and

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our mental health practitioners

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represented for that forum on the 17th.

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The coalition's also uh participating in

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more events in September. They're going

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to be at the Blues and Barbecue Festival

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and also the hospital's health fair. um

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recent events. They just recently had a

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screening uh mental health screening at

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the College of Coastal Georgia Camden

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Center. And in November, we're going to

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have the Walt to Remember. It's for

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International Survivors of Suicide Loss

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Day. So, the co um coalition is very

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active with those items on your behalf.

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Well, in addition to the work we do, our

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second proclamation tonight is going to

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be uh recognizing the month of September

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2026 as library card signup month. And

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this is another excerpt from the

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proclamation. Uh whereas libraries

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inspire creativity, fuel imagination,

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and support lifelong learning for all

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Georgians, offering a space where

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individuals of all ages can explore new

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ideas and be drawn to new possibilities.

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And whereas libraries serve as vibrant

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community hubs connecting people with

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knowledge, technology, and resources

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while fostering civic engagement,

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critical thinking, and lifelong

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learning. And whereas libraries provide

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free book access, excuse me, free access

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to books, digital tools, and innovative

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programming, ensuring that all

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individuals have the support they need

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to learn, connect, and thrive. And

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whereas dedicated librarians and library

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workers foster welcoming spaces that

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encourage discovery, collaboration, and

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creativity for all.

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And now, therefore, be it proclaimed

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that the Camden County Board of

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Commissioners declare September 2026 as

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library card signup month. During this

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month, all residents are encouraged to

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visit their library, sign up or renew

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their card, explore its resources, and

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celebrate all the ways that the library

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brings us together as a community.

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Proclaim this first day of September,

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2026. And we have some representatives

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from the library here, too.

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And as a reminder, we do have three

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libraries in Camden County. One in St.

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Mary's, one in Kingsland, the Camden

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County Library, and the one in Woodbine,

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who recently was very gracious to host

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one of our summer town hall meetings.

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So, thank you.

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» Thanks, Claire.

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Mr. Coughlin.

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You hear me? Okay now. Okay. Sorry about

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that. Do I need the clicker or do I just

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need to ask you all to click?

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» All right. Can y'all hear me now?

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» Yes.

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» Okay. Great. Thanks for having me. I'm

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James Coughlin with the Camden County

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Joint Development Authority and I'm here

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u as I do every quarter for our

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quarterly update just uh to let you know

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what the JDA has going on, give you the

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opportunity to ask questions.

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All right. So, as a reminder, um our our

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purpose, our mission statement is to

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promote and stimulate economic

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development throughout Camden County. Uh

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the JDA operates under the Georgia

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Development Authorities Law that governs

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everything we can be involved with um

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for industrial and economic development

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authorities around the country, excuse

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me, around the state. So um you know,

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obviously uh we we adhere to that pretty

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strictly. Um these are our FY27

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strategic priorities. We follow the same

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fiscal year that the county does, uh

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started in July. Uh the first priority

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is to redevelop the former Gilman

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property that we refer to as the North

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River property. Uh to deliver the first

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phase of the Coastal Georgia Commerce

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Park.

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» Just move the mic closer to your mouth.

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» Move Move the mic closer. Got it. Thank

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you, Shannon.

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uh to deliver the first phase of the

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coastal Georgia Commerce Park to advance

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the Georgia Florida sports park project

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and to continue with countywide support

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and collaboration.

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This is that uh those same priorities

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that are shown in a different way. This

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is our strategic roadmap for the year.

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So again, the North River project, uh,

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the redevelopment strategy there

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involves, um, a broker-led process. Um,

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I'll go into that in more detail in just

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a minute. Um, and then selecting a

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master developer with the Coastal

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Georgia Commerce Park, completing the,

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uh, Georgia DOT permits, going out to

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bid for the infrastructure, and and

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hopefully moving toward a January

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groundbreaking.

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um the Georgia Florida Sports Park.

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We're finalizing that agreement and

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we'll move to the approval phase uh soon

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and then continuing the uh the

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countywide collaborative uh support that

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we have uh with the cities and the

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county.

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All right, looking specifically at the

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former Gilman property, the North River

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property. Just as a reminder, in January

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uh January 13th of this year, we took

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possession of the property after

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foreclosing on the uh the former

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developer that was involved. Uh just

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last month, after a very lengthy RFP

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process, very thorough RFP process, we

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engage CBRE to be our global developer.

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Um in late September or early October

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this year, they will release an RFP on

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of their own to the global market. That

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draft is already underway. We've seen a

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couple uh renditions of what that that

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document will look like and the target

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is in December to bring in uh master

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developer candidates and and hopefully

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begin that that selection process. Um

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lower down on that slide uh the numbered

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uh sections there. Just want to make

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sure everybody is okay or or understands

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that uh we're putting a portion of this

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property into a conservation easement.

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We've had a lot of concerned citizens

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reach out to us and reach out to the

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city of St. Mary's wanting to make sure

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that that Woodstok rrookery and and the

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rrookery that protects the Rosett spoon

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bills um is protected. Just as a an

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aside there, for years we've referred to

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it as the Woodsto Rookery. It's actually

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the largest uh rrookery or nesting area

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for Rosia spoon bills in the state of

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Georgia. Uh so I'm not sure why we all

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call it the Woodsto Rookery, but anyway,

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um that will continue to be protected.

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Uh we're we're we've had a conservation

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easement uh drawn up for that. Um and

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we're partnering with with the Navy on

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that. Um as needed, uh if necessary, we

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will break off some of the parcels on

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the periphery of the property. We've had

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developers express interest in that. Our

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intent is to go to market with this as

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one contiguous uh parcel, but if

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necessary, we we will sell off uh some

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of the periphery of the property. Um and

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then CBRE, of course, is going to market

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with that RFP, mainly focusing on the

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waterfront opportunity. Um, and they're

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going to the global market on that.

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Notes down there at the bottom. I want

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to make sure everybody remembers the

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landfills that are associated with that

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former mill site remain the property of

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Jacobe Development. Those are not the

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property nor the responsibility of the

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JDA, the city of St. Mary's or Camden

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County. Uh, CBRE uh, their success fee,

575
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,720
which you know, I think most of us would

576
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,119
would think of as a commission involved

577
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,880
with this, is based on the value of the

578
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:49,040
proposed development, and that is to be

579
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,119
paid by the master developer. That's

580
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,440
pretty standard with large developments

581
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:57,599
like this and that development community

582
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:59,920
is is accustomed to that model.

583
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:02,560
The Coastal Georgia Commerce Park. Um

584
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:04,079
this is in in my mind the biggest and

585
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,319
and probably most important thing that

586
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:10,960
the JDA has done in my time here. Um the

587
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:12,720
day I loaded up my truck to move down

588
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,319
from northwest Georgia down to Camden

589
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,599
County and stopped in Atlanta to meet

590
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:16,720
with the Department of Community Affairs

591
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,960
and the Department of Economic

592
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:22,400
Development. Uh the first thing they

593
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,480
told me is Camden doesn't have product.

594
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Camden doesn't have product. Meaning

595
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,119
that for large projects who are looking

596
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,839
around the state of Georgia, Camden

597
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:34,000
wasn't even on their radar. They we just

598
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:35,599
never had the product uh that was needed

599
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,839
to to qualify for some of those

600
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,640
projects. That has continued to be the

601
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:42,960
case. Um and we this will be the finally

602
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,040
our opportunity to change that. Um, so

603
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,200
the path to groundbreaking on this, uh,

604
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,000
this month and next, we're finalizing

605
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,160
the the DOT approvals. This is for the

606
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,680
improvements to be made on Highway 17

607
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,319
there at the intersection with Harriet

608
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,720
Bluff Road. Uh, there'll be deceler

609
00:41:56,319 --> 00:42:01,839
deceleration lanes added, turn lanes

610
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:04,079
added, an intersection added, um, rail

611
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:07,280
crossing for the for the rail line that

612
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,960
runs just west of there. Um, and once

613
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,040
those permits are completed, we'll go

614
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,760
out to bid hopefully in in mid to late

615
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,359
October. uh for the infrastructure uh

616
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,400
construction for the road, the water and

617
00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:21,280
the sewer package. Um the target would

618
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:24,319
be to um actually select a general

619
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,319
contractor by uh December and then to

620
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:28,720
actually have a groundbreaking uh in

621
00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:31,680
January of 2027.

622
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:34,160
Um this property has been and is now

623
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:37,119
what's called grad certified or Georgia

624
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,119
ready for accelerated development. Um,

625
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,359
and right now we're in the process of

626
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,359
moving toward to the highest level of

627
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:45,680
readiness designation by the state,

628
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:47,200
which is grad select. That process is

629
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,720
almost complete. And I want to thank

630
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,280
some of the people in this room, Chief

631
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:52,640
Smith, Sheriff Cheney, um, and and

632
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,560
others who have been a part of that

633
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,280
process. They've all had to go on the

634
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,640
record on their letterhead and sign and

635
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,319
provide documents to the state

636
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,800
indicating that they are the covering

637
00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:04,960
agency for this property. So there's no

638
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,640
question later when a big project wants

639
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,240
to come, they don't have to ask, hey, do

640
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,760
we have this? Do we have that? These

641
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,319
have all been worked out. And that also

642
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,000
includes local utilities, um, city of

643
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:15,839
Kingsland, things like that. So all

644
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,800
that's been documented ahead of time. So

645
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:19,800
thank you for your help with that.

646
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:24,400
All right, looking at the Georgia Sports

647
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Park, moving this from agreement to

648
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,720
execution.

649
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Um the development agreement has gone

650
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:32,560
back and forth now between the the

651
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,119
developer, their attorney, the staff

652
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,440
level, the city of Kingsland and the JDA

653
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,720
now for about a year. Actually, it was a

654
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,040
little about 11 months now. Um that is

655
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:45,520
now finally in what what we consider to

656
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,960
be I'm using air quotes final draft

657
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,200
because we all know the attorneys are

658
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,839
going to u make some suggestions and

659
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,839
some comments back and forth. Um, the

660
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:55,920
next step would be for us to get those

661
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:57,760
to the city attorney, JDA attorney, and

662
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,920
the county attorney for consideration,

663
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,880
and then hopefully bring those to city

664
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:06,000
council, JDA board, and and the county.

665
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,079
Um, phase one of that, the private

666
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,200
investment is the first hotel, the

667
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,200
accompanying restaurant, uh, the RV park

668
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,680
associated with that, and down in the

669
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,440
southwest corner of the development, uh,

670
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,119
there's a single family residential

671
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,480
development. You might say, why what

672
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,839
does a single family residential

673
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,880
development have to do with a sports

674
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:26,800
park? Um, truth is, it's just a a

675
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,720
convenient place for a for a single

676
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,880
family residential community, and it's

677
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:33,280
in the TAD. It's in the tax allocation

678
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,359
district that helps to to fund this for

679
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,520
the city of Kingsland. So, uh, we

680
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:40,800
consider it part of of the overall

681
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,560
development. On the public side, the

682
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,560
water, sewer, and road improvements

683
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,920
along May Creek Road. So just for

684
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,319
everybody's reference, that's the road

685
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,920
that runs beside Cracker Barrel and and

686
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:52,240
back there to where the technical

687
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,079
college is. So those water sewer road

688
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,000
improvements, the first cluster of

689
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,839
fields uh that are right there up

690
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040
against May Creek Road, and then the

691
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:01,280
supporting infrastructure, the

692
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,839
sidewalks, the lighting, the fencing,

693
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:07,920
all of that. Um so that first phase of

694
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:09,359
public investment will be splass 9. um 3

695
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,280
million of that will be associated with

696
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:13,200
the infrastructure and 7 million of that

697
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,640
will be associated with the uh actual

698
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,800
construction of the sports fields

699
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,200
themselves. It'll be very important that

700
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,440
this is a this is a coordinated public

701
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,800
private launch that these um are ready

702
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,520
to come out of the ground at the same

703
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,680
time so neither party gets gets ahead of

704
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,680
the other.

705
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,280
» You said 3 million was infrastructure

706
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,760
for water and 7 million was for the

707
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440
fields

708
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,800
» Road water and and sewer improvements

709
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,800
along May Creek Road. Yes, sir.

710
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,480
All right. Our next uh strategic

711
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,319
initiative and and this remains the same

712
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,079
as last year and probably will remain

713
00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:51,359
the same next year is supporting our

714
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:53,040
local collaboration. Uh we love uh what

715
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:54,400
we've been doing with the quarterly

716
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,560
collaborative meetings with

717
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,800
representatives from all three cities,

718
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,640
uh the county staff, the school system,

719
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,880
Kings Bay Naval Base, and of course our

720
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,599
staff uh to get together on a quarterly

721
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,319
basis, review projects, review where

722
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,920
infrastructure um projects are are close

723
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:12,079
to each other, where we need to be aware

724
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,160
of of traffic concerns that might be

725
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:17,280
caused by one project in in St. Mary's

726
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,880
or Kingsland or or in the county.

727
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,880
um make sure that everybody's working

728
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,440
together and on the same page to have

729
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,680
the base co there uh to have the school

730
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,200
uh represented to make sure that that

731
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,280
they understand what we're doing we

732
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,440
understand what what they're doing uh so

733
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,440
we'll continue to do that uh working

734
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,359
with uh the county St. areas in

735
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Kingsland on several infrastructure

736
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:39,839
projects uh several priv private

737
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:43,319
projects. We'll continue to uh to do

738
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:43,319
that as well.

739
00:46:43,432 --> 00:46:46,960
[sighs and gasps] All right. One of the

740
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,920
thing things I was asked to do is uh

741
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,760
look back on the JDA and and demonstrate

742
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,680
or or at least uh share a little bit

743
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,000
about the return on investment in the

744
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,960
time that I've been here. Um, so I

745
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:02,079
arrived in FY uh 15 and the funding

746
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:05,200
since then has totaled 9 about $9.5

747
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:08,319
million, $9.47 million in that amount of

748
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,680
time. Just looking back over the last 5

749
00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:14,000
years, uh the the increase in fair

750
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,319
market value for the real property for

751
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,119
projects we've been involved with has

752
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:22,079
increased from 6.3 million to over $34

753
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:24,720
million in that 5year period.

754
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:27,119
um the assessed growth, so the actual

755
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:29,119
tax value growth of that same real

756
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,800
property that we've been involved with

757
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:34,720
uh during that time has increased from

758
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:38,560
$2.5 million to $14 million or 13.9 to

759
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:40,240
be exact. Um and then if you include the

760
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,319
machinery and equipment, which is the

761
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,560
real and personal assessed growth in

762
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:46,720
that same time period, the value of that

763
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,319
property has increased from $8 million

764
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:53,599
to $145 million. So, uh, significant

765
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:55,200
growth. Um, the the bar graphs there

766
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:57,040
demonstrate that as well. Same

767
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,599
calculations. I'll point out the two

768
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,200
notes on the bottom. Um, that total

769
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,760
funding calculation there at the top

770
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,400
where it says 9.47 million, that

771
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,160
includes a deduction of 750 million.

772
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,240
None of the current commissioners were

773
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:15,680
were on commission at that time, but the

774
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:19,760
JD JDA was asked in FY15 to uh give back

775
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:22,559
$750,000 of funding to help pay for the

776
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,240
um spaceport um environmental assessment

777
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:26,480
that was done at that time and and we

778
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:29,920
did that. So that that includes uh

779
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:32,000
deducting that uh from back in FY15.

780
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Also, that return on investment does not

781
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,760
include the secondary impact of

782
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,680
companies and workers spending their

783
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,359
dollars here in Camden County. So,

784
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,760
that's, you know, companies who hire

785
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:44,319
local contract contractors to work on on

786
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,160
their site. Uh workers who spend their

787
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:49,200
money in local shops and restaurants,

788
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,359
stay in our hotels, um rent apartments,

789
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,880
buy property, etc. So, it doesn't

790
00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:57,559
include any of that. This is strictly

791
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,559
the the real estate uh impact.

792
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,480
Also, I want to take just a minute

793
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,040
because I I think sometimes I I sound uh

794
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,280
maybe not as as appreciative as I should

795
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:11,280
be about the Camden County Industrial

796
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:14,319
Park. 30 years ago, uh the JDA uh took a

797
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,280
bold step uh to create the Camden County

798
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:20,240
Industrial Park. So, in 1996, they did

799
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,000
that. They purchased 164 acres for

800
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:24,880
$625,000

801
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,920
or an average of $3,800

802
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,079
an acre. Um, now that did include some

803
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,079
wetlands and and things like that. Um,

804
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:36,559
but that that was the value of it back

805
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:38,720
in in 1996. They divided that up into a

806
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:41,680
lot of little pieces and and marketed

807
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:44,160
that. We've had um a lot of success in

808
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,119
just the last you five or six years in

809
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,480
selling uh that property to several

810
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:52,559
different companies. Uh currently the

811
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,000
real property value just in that

812
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,240
industrial park of the land and

813
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,760
buildings alone is uh almost $7.5

814
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:02,079
million and the total tax value

815
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,040
including the machinery and equipment is

816
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:07,599
over $107 million. A large part of that

817
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,440
is plug power. Um of course they came to

818
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:11,280
town on a tax abatement schedule. That's

819
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,359
a normal incentive uh when you're

820
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,319
competing with other communities. Uh but

821
00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:18,640
this year they'll be paying 60% of their

822
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:20,640
uh the tax assessment that that is due

823
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,440
to them which is still u millions of

824
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,440
dollars. So anyway, I want to take time

825
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,000
to to recognize that because that was a

826
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,319
bold move and now we're taking the next

827
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,160
step um with the Coastal Georgia

828
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:34,000
Commerce Park. Down there at the bottom,

829
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,000
those are the companies that are located

830
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,079
uh in the Camden County Industrial Park

831
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,720
currently. We've got one more to come

832
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,640
that I'm under an NDA with. I can't uh

833
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:44,640
share just yet, but we've got another

834
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,319
small company that'll be moving in

835
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,760
there. I say small, they've got about 40

836
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:52,480
employees, which is which is great. Um

837
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,720
anyway, so um hopefully once that gets

838
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,800
done, uh that'll represent the final

839
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:00,079
piece of property in the Camden County

840
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,839
Industrial Park.

841
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,760
» Did you say Plug pays a million dollars

842
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:06,319
in property tax?

843
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,599
Um, so they are they've they're a

844
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:13,760
development worth about $130

845
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:15,760
million total. Um, so 40% of that times

846
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,960
our millage rate. Uh, you can do that

847
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,960
math. That's that's pretty significant.

848
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,640
» Commissioner Smith, I wanted to comment

849
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,000
on your uh outfit tonight. I did not

850
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,599
coordinate that with you or watch you

851
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,599
leave the house. I promise.

852
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:34,640
» Uh, suic [laughter] suicide um

853
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,839
prevention awareness. Oh, nice. Okay.

854
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,800
» Made you aware.

855
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:42,160
» Any questions on any of that?

856
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:44,800
» I had a couple.

857
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,480
» Uh, so the RFP going to market for the

858
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,079
North River Gilman property, right?

859
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,839
» Was there any kind of criteria? I know

860
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:52,000
sometimes you see when bids go out, we

861
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:55,040
have benchmarks we'd like people to

862
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,880
incorporate in their proposals or

863
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,400
» Yeah. Um, there was. Um, so our criteria

864
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,960
when we're looking for a master

865
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,359
developer on that site is to to fit the

866
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,280
current zoning model that's that's there

867
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:10,079
work with the city. It's a what we call

868
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,640
live, work, play model. It's a mixeduse

869
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,280
model. Um, it does allow for light

870
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,960
industrial. Uh, so there is some uh

871
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,319
place on the property. If you're

872
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,240
familiar with the property coming in off

873
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:21,920
the Finley Gate, there's the opportunity

874
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:24,400
to incorporate some light industrial

875
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,400
there. Um, but we're asking de

876
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,520
developers to submit a proposal for that

877
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,680
mixeduse uh type model. We're also

878
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,400
asking them to incorporate the marina as

879
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,079
currently permitted or to to redesign

880
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,200
the marina, which would require a

881
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:41,839
modified permit with DNR. Uh, but if you

882
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,880
remember, we we did uh achieve a marina

883
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:44,319
permit there.

884
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,000
» But so in a perfect world, we're looking

885
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:48,271
for like a Whole Foods with some

886
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,640
condominiums on the top and a parking

887
00:52:48,271 --> 00:52:53,760
[laughter] area. Did you say a Whole

888
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:56,559
Foods with with Yeah. Some some retail,

889
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,480
some residential um in in the town

890
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:00,559
center area. So the the intersection of

891
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920
meeting and Meeting Street in Osborne

892
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:04,880
there, that's what we refer to as the

893
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,520
town center. Um retail, uh residential

894
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,160
in that area, hotel,

895
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,680
um condos, town homes, that that kind of

896
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,880
thing. So that would be on the south end

897
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,720
of the property and a little further

898
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,839
north is an opportunity for some light

899
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:18,640
industrial

900
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:20,000
» On the does did anybody did anybody else

901
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,160
have any other questions before I just

902
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,000
keep going on I don't want to be rude on

903
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,920
the Georgia Florida sports park for the

904
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,559
3 million versus 7 million 3 million's

905
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,079
for utility improvements 7 million's

906
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:30,960
going towards the construction of the

907
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,720
fields

908
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,680
» Who will ultimately end up owning the

909
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:36,240
fields

910
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,920
» Good question so um what's currently

911
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:40,079
contemplated in the agreement I know you

912
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,839
haven't seen it yet but is the KDA Uh,

913
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,839
so the Kingsland Development Authority

914
00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:47,119
would be the owner of the fields. They

915
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:49,599
need to be publicly owned. Um, and

916
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:51,119
rather than having the the the JDA own

917
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,119
them and having to constantly coordinate

918
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:55,760
with the city of Kingsland for

919
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:58,079
maintenance, etc., um, they'll be owned

920
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,640
by the KDA, but then contracted out for

921
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:02,559
private management. Oh, so so a private

922
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,640
group would take care of organizing and

923
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:08,000
scheduling tournaments, staffing,

924
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,520
maintenance, insurance, all of that. But

925
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,119
the 10 million allocated was a

926
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,079
countywide

927
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:13,040
project. Correct.

928
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,119
» Right. That is correct.

929
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,200
» Not a not a Kingsland project.

930
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:19,200
» Well, I mean it's Yeah, that's right. It

931
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,160
the the money will flow through the city

932
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,400
of Kingsland.

933
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,680
» Okay. Ownership of fields. When is your

934
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,960
next collaborative meeting? I know you

935
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,800
said you do them quarterly.

936
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:32,960
» We do them quarterly. September 17th, I

937
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,839
think. I think. Yeah, 17th. I'm the day

938
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,280
after my birthday. Um, and just and I'm

939
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:40,079
just going to throw this out there as a

940
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,559
general rule. Um, I don't mean to be

941
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:45,359
rude. We don't invite elected officials.

942
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:46,960
Um, that's how I I'm sorry. Um, yeah.

943
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:48,880
When I when I got the base co, for

944
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,240
example, to come or or the the

945
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,079
superintendent just to encourage

946
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:56,480
um

947
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:58,240
open dialogue, you know, for us to

948
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,559
really, you know, share frustrations and

949
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:02,800
and that kind of thing. We we don't ask

950
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,559
invited uh we don't invite elected

951
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,240
officials to come. We did have a couple

952
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:08,000
meetings early on where some schoolboard

953
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,440
members came and then it it clicked that

954
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,400
oh yeah they're elected officials as

955
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,079
well. Uh so we had to tell them to to

956
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,000
stand down as well.

957
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,079
» I'm highly offended.

958
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,040
» I I apologize. We'll set up a separate

959
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:22,160
meeting for you.

960
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,559
» Oh, thank you very much.

961
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,960
» Any other questions?

962
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:28,480
» Uh no. I just want to uh you know

963
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,720
applaud the work you're doing as far as

964
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,839
turning around the the image of the JDA.

965
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,040
Ben, I know since you've become

966
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:34,240
chairman, we've seen some positive

967
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,200
things. So, thank you both.

968
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:38,200
» Thank you. I appreciate it.

969
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,200
» Thanks, James.

970
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,440
Okay, moving forward, we're going to

971
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:49,280
move into the p first public comment

972
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:51,680
section. Uh these this section is for

973
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,079
any item on the agenda. Limit your

974
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:57,760
comments to three minutes.

975
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:59,040
Um, state your name.

976
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,920
Anybody sign up?

977
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:05,240
» Yes. The first is Mr. Steve Gross.

978
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,240
» Mr. Gross.

979
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,680
» Good evening everyone. I'm sad that uh

980
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:16,960
Mr. Coughlin has left. I was hoping he

981
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,599
would stay for this. I had a meeting

982
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:23,119
with Mr. Coughlin and Mr. Turner and Mr.

983
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:25,760
John Wjic about 3 months ago, two and a

984
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:28,000
half months ago. And that's the purpose

985
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,839
of the presentation he gave tonight that

986
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,599
was spurred on by that meeting that we

987
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:33,040
had. And I don't know if any of you

988
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:35,599
noticed, but there are some glaring

989
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,040
emissions to that uh financial statement

990
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,880
that he made. The biggest one is that

991
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,520
there's no mention of the financial

992
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,359
costs of the Gilman property whatsoever

993
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,760
in any of his So that return on

994
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:47,440
investment is just not true. It's not

995
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,680
even close.

996
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,520
Uh, I think you should question him on

997
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,799
that as soon as possible and see where

998
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,680
is this coming from because there's

999
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:58,880
that's $10 million or more of taxpayer

1000
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:02,079
money. I wanted to ask him tonight um,

1001
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:05,280
what is the monthly note for that

1002
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:07,520
property. There was also no mention of

1003
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,760
Spaceport and I can't help but not but

1004
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:13,280
notice that JDA always disavows

1005
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:15,599
Spaceport, but JDA began Spaceport. JDA

1006
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,680
got Spaceport rolling and then passed

1007
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:20,079
that on to us. and there's a huge tax

1008
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,319
burden there and I asked him to include

1009
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:27,599
that in the costs and of course he did

1010
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:30,079
not um plug industries plug power. He

1011
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:32,240
spoke highly of them. My understanding

1012
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,079
is that their grants have run out and

1013
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,559
they may not be here in another year or

1014
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:38,400
so that they are on very shaky ground

1015
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,000
with the change of administration that

1016
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,520
we have. So I don't think they're in

1017
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:46,299
good shape. I don't think we're going to

1018
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:48,720
see the return on our tax

1019
00:57:46,299 --> 00:57:50,880
[clears throat] break that we gave them.

1020
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,040
And I think the people of Camden County

1021
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,200
deserve better than just what they got

1022
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,520
tonight. I think the people of Cam

1023
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:01,040
Camden County deserve a referendum. And

1024
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:03,920
I think they deserve a full accounting

1025
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,920
of what's gone on in the last 15 years

1026
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:09,280
with our JDA. And I think if you look at

1027
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:12,799
it very carefully, you will find that

1028
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:15,760
they are not nearly as prosperous for us

1029
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:18,559
or creating the prosperity for us that

1030
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,640
they are claiming to. Um I think it's

1031
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:23,040
time that we have a referendum on the

1032
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,480
direction that they go. I'm not sure

1033
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,720
that our county wants a bigger

1034
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,520
industrial park. I'm pretty sure they

1035
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:32,400
don't want the asphalt plant that the

1036
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,480
JDA is bringing in that's going to bring

1037
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,920
hundreds and hundreds of trucks to our

1038
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:41,200
roads during a I95 construction project

1039
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:46,319
over the next few years. Um, I'm not

1040
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:49,200
sure that the collaboration between

1041
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:51,520
the commissioners and the JDA

1042
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,960
is what we want to see happening the way

1043
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,720
it is. Especially when I hear things

1044
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,960
like, "Well, you're not invited to this

1045
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,559
meeting." No one is invited to their

1046
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,319
meetings. In fact, I've gone to several

1047
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:02,720
of their meetings, and if I sit there

1048
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:04,240
for the 10 minutes at the beginning of

1049
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,680
the meeting, they have no question

1050
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,240
answer period, and then they go into

1051
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,559
executive session. Can't get any

1052
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:14,079
information out of them. Um, I've spoken

1053
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:17,599
with Mr. Turner at length uh at to find

1054
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:19,680
out what is the avenue for

1055
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:21,839
eliminating our JDA, which many other

1056
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,359
counties have done. and he said, 'I have

1057
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:25,680
to go through Mr. Sains. I have

1058
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:28,240
repeatedly called and texted Mr. Sains.

1059
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,079
I stopped in his office in St. Mary's

1060
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:33,520
and lo and behold, when I stopped in his

1061
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:37,680
office in St. Mary's, a Mr. Yadv greets

1062
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:42,240
me purporting to represent Mr. Sains.

1063
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:44,640
Mr. Yadv is a board member on the JDA

1064
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,559
and purports in that office to represent

1065
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,559
Mr. Sains. In fact, he promised me that

1066
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:50,799
he would get me a face to face with Mr.

1067
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:53,440
Sains. haven't heard back from him. So,

1068
00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:55,280
I think you have a uh a little thing

1069
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,319
going on here that needs some serious

1070
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,280
attention to determine exactly what our

1071
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:04,960
JDA is doing for us and whether our

1072
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:06,880
people, not not our businesses, not the

1073
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,440
businesses in our town, but the

1074
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,599
constituents, everyone in our town is

1075
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,520
looking for a larger industrial park,

1076
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:16,160
more industry in this town, or do we

1077
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,720
want to pursue a different avenue in

1078
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:21,040
order to try and maintain our taxes at a

1079
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,280
lower rate? because right now I think

1080
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,440
we're looking at a tax increase that's

1081
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,520
going to hurt everyone substantially.

1082
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,200
Thank you for your time.

1083
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,319
» Thank you.

1084
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,960
» Anybody else?

1085
01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:33,960
» Mr. Steve Winkle.

1086
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:45,040
» Thank you. Steve Winkle, Harriet Bluff.

1087
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,839
Looking over the agenda tonight, I would

1088
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:50,880
like to talk about 10 items. I can't get

1089
01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:54,880
it done in the time that y'all are going

1090
01:00:50,880 --> 01:01:03,160
to tolerate me. Uh I'd like to address

1091
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:03,160
as my highest point items 45 6 7

1092
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:12,160
4 5 6 and 7. I ran the numbers

1093
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:16,000
and I'm just wondering because in

1094
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:19,440
reading the boilerplate,

1095
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:22,160
the full package, which is not presented

1096
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,480
to the public, but is available online

1097
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:29,119
if you look for it.

1098
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:31,200
And it looks to me like

1099
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:34,640
the purchase of all that equipment is

1100
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,040
dependent on doing work

1101
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:40,160
on Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base and

1102
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:43,200
being paid by the Navy or some party

1103
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:46,400
which isn't elaborated here for the work

1104
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:50,920
which is only producing a profit to the

1105
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,920
county of 7.8%.

1106
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:57,040
And at that basis, the work that's

1107
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,559
outlined in your request tonight only

1108
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:02,640
requires

1109
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:05,359
10 more projects to produce the income

1110
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,440
to provide the money

1111
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:10,880
that would be needed to buy the

1112
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:13,839
excavator, which would appears to be the

1113
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,480
deal here is that the profit from each

1114
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:18,240
of these transactions appears to be used

1115
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,960
to purchase the excavator. It's not

1116
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,440
clear in what's presented to the board

1117
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,760
or to the public. And so I think tonight

1118
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,280
we need to have a very very detailed

1119
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,000
elaboration

1120
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:33,200
on how the purchase of the excavator and

1121
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:36,960
commitment to the excavator is going to

1122
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:38,880
be paid until those future projects come

1123
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,200
from the Navy.

1124
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:46,599
because the projects have been approved

1125
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:46,599
would have to total about $200 million

1126
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:53,839
at the current rate.

1127
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:55,760
I take that back. I'm sorry, $2 million

1128
01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:58,000
at the current rates that they're

1129
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,720
earning in order to provide enough to

1130
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,200
buy that excavator. And we have never

1131
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:06,640
heard a public explanation

1132
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:08,960
of how the excavator was burned up a

1133
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,640
couple of months ago.

1134
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,720
can't seem to get a square answer on

1135
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,839
that.

1136
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:18,880
We've heard a justification for what

1137
01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:20,400
happened, but we haven't heard how we're

1138
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,720
going to prevent burning up the next

1139
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,359
machine there.

1140
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,960
We haven't heard what happened,

1141
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:28,880
who was responsible or what was

1142
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,480
responsible.

1143
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:36,160
If it was a lightning strike, we should

1144
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,520
know that. if it was caused by lack of

1145
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,160
maintenance, we need to know what

1146
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:42,000
maintenance is being done now to protect

1147
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,119
all of the equipment that the county

1148
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:48,480
owns. And so, the fact of the matter is

1149
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:50,480
there's a lot of open questions. JDA's

1150
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,960
got open questions.

1151
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,400
Public works has open questions on

1152
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,760
several different projects. You'll hear

1153
01:03:54,400 --> 01:04:01,839
about more tonight from others. And the

1154
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:03,599
fact is is that I think that y'all are

1155
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:06,160
not getting enough information to make

1156
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:09,599
good decisions anyway. All you're

1157
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:12,880
getting is biased information

1158
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:17,680
which furthers

1159
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:20,720
the direction that the

1160
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:23,119
departments want to proceed or are

1161
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,920
desperate to proceed to create their own

1162
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:28,480
value.

1163
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:31,760
What really irritates me is to see the

1164
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,599
item on the agenda tonight.

1165
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:37,920
Number three,

1166
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:42,000
that has to do with the new official

1167
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:45,200
document for the parks and recreation

1168
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:48,400
managed by the county. It's been four

1169
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:51,039
years since I was promised in a public

1170
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:54,640
meeting by commissioners who were

1171
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:57,520
present at the meeting that we would

1172
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:01,839
have a swing set

1173
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:04,559
at Herit's Bluff Park. No swing set.

1174
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:08,000
They hung a couple of children's baby

1175
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:10,799
swings too high off the ground for kids

1176
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:13,839
to use by themselves

1177
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:15,760
on three- foot long chains

1178
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:18,799
on a piece of existing equipment that

1179
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,720
was never designed for that

1180
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:22,799
and that the kids can't manage

1181
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,799
themselves too high off the ground for

1182
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:26,480
them to reach.

1183
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:29,520
We don't even have swings and haven't

1184
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:33,760
had swings for the last five years. And

1185
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:35,680
here we are spending time documenting

1186
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,480
how y'all are going to control us in the

1187
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:40,799
parks

1188
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:44,319
instead of the taxpayer getting their

1189
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:47,200
money's worth after 20 years

1190
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:48,240
of failure by the county to manage its

1191
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,760
own.

1192
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,440
» Got one more minute. Okay.

1193
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:56,000
» Well, thank you very much. Okay.

1194
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:58,880
The problem that we have is it's gotten

1195
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,599
worse at Harriet's Bluff Park. We also

1196
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,200
don't have a tennis court or pickle ball

1197
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:07,520
court

1198
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:09,760
because the net was damaged and the post

1199
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,240
supporting the net were removed. They

1200
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:15,359
were cut off an inch and a half above

1201
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,960
ground level. And now they pose a hazard

1202
01:06:15,359 --> 01:06:19,200
because there's a 4-in diameter hole

1203
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,559
with steel pipes sticking up an inch and

1204
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,920
a half above them exposed and kids are

1205
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:26,079
playing on that. And there's plenty of

1206
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,760
evidence of that from footprints and

1207
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:30,240
bike tracks and everything that are on

1208
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:33,680
the tennis courts at Heritage Park which

1209
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:36,799
can't be used for tennis.

1210
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:40,000
And so there's all kinds of issues. The

1211
01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:43,760
barbecue grill I mentioned here a year

1212
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:46,240
and a half ago. No barbecue grill. We

1213
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:49,440
have a county park without a barbecue

1214
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:52,079
grill or a swing set.

1215
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,480
It sounds to me like maybe people who

1216
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:56,240
want to do business here look and see

1217
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,039
how well we're treating the people who

1218
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,839
already live here first before they

1219
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:04,720
decide to move here or move their

1220
01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:06,960
companies here. And I think that could

1221
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,599
very well be a problem that we're always

1222
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:12,480
hearing from department people. Thank

1223
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:13,359
you.

1224
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,680
» Anybody else?

1225
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:16,680
» Ben Golf,

1226
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,440
Ben Goff from Heritage Fluff.

1227
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:37,720
And I want to state right up front that

1228
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,720
I miss Mr. Robert Bower

1229
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:46,880
and attended his uh celebration of life

1230
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:50,319
on Sunday afternoon.

1231
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:53,359
We're going to miss that

1232
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:57,319
man from his stance on parts and ditches

1233
01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:57,319
and so on and so forth.

1234
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:04,319
So this is not a permanent thing, but

1235
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:07,901
for when I'm speaking I'm speaking in

1236
01:08:04,319 --> 01:08:08,960
Mr. Bob Bower's house.

1237
01:08:07,901 --> 01:08:11,832
[cough]

1238
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,720
Amazingly enough,

1239
01:08:11,832 --> 01:08:15,119
[snorts]

1240
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:18,000
the addition requested for the items to

1241
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:20,400
the county codes seems to have been

1242
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,040
constructed in a more timely manner than

1243
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:26,080
the moratorum on the data centers and

1244
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:28,000
other items. And at first read seems to

1245
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,517
be inclusive of pretty much everything

1246
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,827
needed.

1247
01:08:29,517 --> 01:08:32,847
[snorts]

1248
01:08:30,827 --> 01:08:32,847
[cough and clears throat]

1249
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:39,679
And I'm referring to the uh

1250
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:42,239
items for the parks to be added to the

1251
01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:44,480
uh

1252
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:47,120
county codes.

1253
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:49,520
Prior to Mr. Joey Kase's arrival at the

1254
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,679
PSA. [clears throat]

1255
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:55,600
I believe there were deposits required

1256
01:08:51,679 --> 01:08:57,839
but no rental fee charged for pavilions.

1257
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:01,199
I believe it was instituted under his

1258
01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:03,120
watch and I disagreed with it then and I

1259
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:05,359
still do.

1260
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:08,799
I dare say that anyone desiring to

1261
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:11,359
utilize one of one of the pavilions is a

1262
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:13,759
taxpayer to some degree or and some of

1263
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:15,440
those taxes go to support the parks and

1264
01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:20,159
pavilions

1265
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:23,480
without an additional fee added.

1266
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:23,480
We're proposing

1267
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:29,600
$15 per hour or $150 per day for a

1268
01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:33,920
pavilion

1269
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:36,239
and a deposit of $100 per day.

1270
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:38,880
I believe that both are excessive in

1271
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:40,960
light of it being public property and I

1272
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:43,359
hope the five of you will consider this

1273
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,880
to be an unnecessary expense for a

1274
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:47,600
taxpayer.

1275
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:51,400
Thank you very much.

1276
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,400
» Thank you, sir. Anybody

1277
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,000
else?

1278
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:04,880
» Oh, Miss Cessums.

1279
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,600
» Ma'am, this is this is about sweet

1280
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,440
water. This is about sweet water.

1281
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,080
» I was going to call on the next public

1282
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:13,040
com. This is about the agenda.

1283
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,719
» Oh, yeah.

1284
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,040
» Okay, [laughter]

1285
01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:18,719
that's okay. I didn't expect to be up

1286
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,800
here at this time anyway. I just saw

1287
01:10:18,719 --> 01:10:23,600
what was going on. Shirley Cesum, St.

1288
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:27,840
Mary's, Georgia.

1289
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:31,040
The gentleman that spoke on the um

1290
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:34,960
Georgia Florida Sport Park and he spoke

1291
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:37,280
on the Gilman North River

1292
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,440
um

1293
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,840
renovation.

1294
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:44,880
I think the last time I was here, I had

1295
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,880
asked you all um I don't know if he was

1296
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,920
here about it was something about this

1297
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:52,239
was on the agenda then and I asked had

1298
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:55,520
anyone did a

1299
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:57,920
um what impact

1300
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,480
of North River would this have on the

1301
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:03,520
current residence? There's about a 30 or

1302
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:06,239
maybe 50 people that currently live out

1303
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,840
there at North River and Finley Street

1304
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:10,480
run right straight down in the middle of

1305
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:12,239
the North River to the gates way he the

1306
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:14,239
park that he's talking and nobody never

1307
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:16,000
did get back with me and ask me what

1308
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:18,239
impact was this going to have on those

1309
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,159
residents. You know, I I know the

1310
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:22,159
project sound good and all of this and

1311
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:26,080
stuff like that, but you still there's

1312
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:28,800
no one out there at um North River know

1313
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,400
anything about all this.

1314
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,640
So,

1315
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:35,360
that need to be considered. The impact

1316
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,199
you having on the residents, okay? When

1317
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,800
you're making up making up these uh

1318
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:41,360
projects,

1319
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:44,480
that need to be considered.

1320
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,560
And another thing about the Georgia

1321
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:48,800
Florida park

1322
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,440
sports park, I only have a couple of

1323
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,440
things on that is it wanted to know what

1324
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:58,400
impact does this have on the regular

1325
01:11:53,440 --> 01:12:01,360
parks here and the um in the county in

1326
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:06,000
the county for this big park you talking

1327
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:09,280
about to make and about um

1328
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:12,080
you know the it sounds good. It sounds

1329
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:14,400
good, but I just want to know the

1330
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:17,440
current park, the use of the current

1331
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:20,480
parks in the county. What impact this

1332
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:23,040
great big new development is going to

1333
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:25,040
have on the usage of these smaller parks

1334
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,920
that you're going to have around in the

1335
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:31,360
county? What's going to happen with them

1336
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,719
if you got this big developments coming?

1337
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:38,159
And that is about it.

1338
01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:40,320
And I will say with the Georgia Park

1339
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:42,400
status, I don't see where Kings will

1340
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:45,280
need any more hotels and rest um

1341
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,600
restaurants. Okay. Thank you.

1342
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:51,080
» Thank you, ma'am.

1343
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,080
Anybody else?

1344
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:57,440
Okay, we move before we move into the uh

1345
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:00,800
the public hearing section, I'll make a

1346
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:01,679
motion that we take a five minute break.

1347
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,560
» Second.

1348
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:08,360
» Have a motion to second. All in favor?

1349
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,360
We'd be back in five.

1350
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:14,500
[music]

1351
01:13:19,031 --> 01:13:21,051
[music]

1352
01:13:24,926 --> 01:13:26,946
[music]

1353
01:13:32,785 --> 01:13:34,805
» [music]

1354
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,159
» Hey,

1355
01:13:39,336 --> 01:13:43,159
[music]

1356
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,159
down.

1357
01:13:49,816 --> 01:13:51,836
[music]

1358
01:13:57,676 --> 01:13:59,696
» [music]

1359
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,520
» Hey,

1360
01:14:08,811 --> 01:14:10,831
[music]

1361
01:14:19,291 --> 01:14:22,640
[music]

1362
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,640
hey, hey.

1363
01:14:23,876 --> 01:14:25,896
» [music]

1364
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:36,376
» Heat. Heat.

1365
01:14:34,356 --> 01:14:36,376
[music]

1366
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» [music]

1367
01:15:03,831 --> 01:15:05,851
[music]

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1369
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1370
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1372
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1374
01:16:12,607 --> 01:16:14,627
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1375
01:16:34,222 --> 01:16:36,242
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1376
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1377
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» Hey,

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hey, hey.

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» [music]

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» I found a warm water in the men's room.

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I started to stay in.

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» I know. It's a lot warmer in there,

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isn't it?

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Okay, moving on. Um, entertain a motion

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to adjourn the regular meeting and enter

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a public hearing.

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» Move.

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» Second.

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» Have a motion and a second. All in

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favor?

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Okay. Now, we're going to enter the

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01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,679
public hearing phase. Uh the first item

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:54,400
is the first reading of the addition of

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01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:56,000
chapter 12 parks and recreation

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facilities to the official code of

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Camden County.

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Uh does anybody in the audience wish to

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01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:04,679
speak on this item?

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» Seeing none.

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01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,679
Good evening, commissioners. Um, so I'm

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in front of you tonight to present the

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first reading for the addition of

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chapter 12 uh parks and recreation

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facilities to the official code of

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Camden County, Georgia.

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Um, we are considering, you know, we

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01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,520
would offer to consider to wave the the

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,199
first reading of the entire document.

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Um, there are no current, just a

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history, there are no currently there

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,800
are not currently any ordinances in the

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county's official code pertaining to

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county owned parks and recreational

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:48,480
facilities. Um, through years and years

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through the PSA, we've relied on the PSA

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to hold the those rules and regulations

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in the parks. Um, when we took over the

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parks on January 1st, we found a a hole,

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right? We needed to fill that void with

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having rules and regulations for our

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county parks. Um, so this ordinance

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establishes rules for the use,

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operation, and management of parks,

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historic sites, and recreational areas

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managed by the Camd County Board of

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Commissioners. The establishment of a

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park use ordinance for county-owned

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parks and recreational facilities will

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ensure the protection of public health

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and safety while also ensuring the

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stewardship of county assets and

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operations. This ordinance also

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establishes rules and regulations for

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park pavilion rentals, special event

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permits, and con uh concessionary uh

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01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:36,320
authorization permits. Um so your

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options are to to wave the first reading

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of the addition of uh of the chapter 12.

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01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:45,280
Um you can obviously have me read the

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entire thing. Um you can deny the item

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or or table the item. Um and our

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01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:52,320
recommendation is uh you know to go

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ahead and wave the first reading.

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Thanks.

1453
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» I bet that would be your recommendation.

1454
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» I move to have him read the whole thing.

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» Okay.

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» Line by line.

1457
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» Well, we're in a public hearing right

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now. That'll be in a few minutes.

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» Okay.

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[clears throat]

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» Anybody else?

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Moving on.

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» Yes.

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» Cassie, thank you.

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Good evening, commissioners. Can you

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hear me? All right.

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So, up first, we have a request to

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reszone approximately uh I'm sorry, we

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01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:46,480
have a reszone request to uh

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,560
let me start over. The applicant is

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01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:52,000
requesting to reszone approximately two

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acres from agricultural forestry to

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agricultural residential.

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The applicant is requesting the

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reasonzoning in order to subdivide 2

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acres from a 9.7 acre tract. The minimum

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:09,199
acreage for AF is 3 acres and AR is 2

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acres.

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This is the uh parcel highlighted in

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blue here.

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Here

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it is without the zoning.

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01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:26,239
And here is what the track will look

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like once it's subdivided. Uh you can

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see in red there is the 2 acre track

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that we are reszoning and subdividing

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and the remaining acreage will be 7.78

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acres.

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Uh planning commission does recommend

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01:22:40,639 --> 01:22:44,600
approval on this item.

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01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:51,400
Okay. Does anybody in the audience want

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01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:51,400
to speak for this item?

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» Does anybody want to speak against the

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01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,920
item?

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» Seeing none, we'll move on to the next

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guessing.

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Up next, we have a special use request

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to amend the conditions placed on this

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parcel during reszoning by the board of

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commissioners on September 3rd, 2024.

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Um the be the board of commissioners

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approved to reszone the parcel with the

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condition that a 20 foot wide

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undisturbed natural buffer followed by a

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10-ft high solid wood fence be installed

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between parcels 073A

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034 and 073A 043A.

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[snorts] The project's request is to

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reduce the 20 foot wide buffer by three

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foot, making the buffer 17 foot in order

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to avoid disturbing a large tree, and to

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amend the type of material for the

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01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:56,560
fencing from solid wood to a 29 gauge

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aggregated metal panel with a faux wood

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finish.

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Here's the parcel currently zoned

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commercial general.

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01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,360
Here it is without the zoning.

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01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:15,560
This is the approximate location of the

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01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:15,560
tree they are trying to save.

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01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:22,239
This is just a speck of the type of

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metal that they are requesting

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01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:27,320
the 29 gauge a metal panel.

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Uh and this is what it will look like

1525
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,159
once it's completed.

1526
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:38,000
So, the planning commission has

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01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:40,159
recommended approval with the condition

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,400
that the three-foot setback reduction

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only be for the location of the tree

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01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,880
they are trying to save and that the

1531
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:49,880
fence material must remain as solid

1532
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,880
wood.

1533
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,719
» Okay, thank you. Anybody wish to speak

1534
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:56,239
for this item?

1535
01:24:54,719 --> 01:24:59,920
» Yes, sure. Well,

1536
01:24:56,239 --> 01:25:03,040
» Junior, come up to the podium there. Uh,

1537
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:03,840
just give your name and your address.

1538
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,239
» What?

1539
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:09,440
» Your name and your address.

1540
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:12,159
» Name's uh L Boyd. They call me Junior

1541
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:16,080
Boyd. The address is 235 Granny's Place,

1542
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:18,884
Waverly, Georgia. 31565.

1543
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,320
We proposed to use the metal fence.

1544
01:25:18,884 --> 01:25:22,880
[snorts] I didn't know they were looking

1545
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:25,280
for a sound decimal. I didn't come with

1546
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:29,280
much ammunition for it because a sound

1547
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:32,639
decimal on metal is 03. Sound decimal

1548
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:36,480
for half inch board for a privacy fence

1549
01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:38,320
is 333. So you get a little more sound

1550
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:40,080
decimal. You're talking fractions of

1551
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:43,440
thousands

1552
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:46,639
out of the solid wood versus the metal.

1553
01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:49,920
But the wood will be warped and

1554
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:52,400
deteriorated in 3 years and laying on

1555
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:56,239
the ground. The metal will be there the

1556
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:59,280
next 20 years. You got steel post versus

1557
01:25:56,239 --> 01:26:02,800
wooden post set in concrete

1558
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:06,159
and the metal withstand winds up to 120

1559
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:09,360
mph. Wood will not.

1560
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:11,679
That's why we asked for the variance to

1561
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,600
put metal up instead of wood. And we

1562
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:16,960
tried to pick out a good metal. It's not

1563
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:19,920
cheap. It's going to run probably

1564
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:22,719
between 10 and $12,000 more to put up

1565
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:25,440
the metal fence versus the wood. But the

1566
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:28,000
wood is a maintenance nightmare

1567
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:30,960
and we didn't want that and it don't

1568
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:33,199
look that good in two years. So that's

1569
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,000
the only argument I got for it. I don't

1570
01:26:33,199 --> 01:26:39,040
have no ammunition for sound.

1571
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,760
our what we what we produce over there,

1572
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:43,920
what we manufacture or produce or

1573
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,600
whatever you want to call it, it's not

1574
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,800
noisy.

1575
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:50,800
» I mean, there's no noise.

1576
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:53,199
Our radio is probably louder than our

1577
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,040
material.

1578
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:57,520
» Thanks, Junior.

1579
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,199
» Chairman, I do have a comment to read

1580
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,639
for someone in the audience as well.

1581
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:00,960
» Yes, this is a pro.

1582
01:27:00,639 --> 01:27:02,080
» Yes.

1583
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,440
» Yes, ma'am.

1584
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:07,120
» So, this is um Miss Mimsy Winsky. She is

1585
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:08,960
here in the audience tonight and I'm

1586
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,600
going to be reading her comment. My

1587
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,760
husband and I own 252 Horse Stamp Church

1588
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:16,000
Road. We wish to show our support of

1589
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:18,880
what the planning and zoning commission

1590
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,960
decided for amending the special use,

1591
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,760
allowing the extra space to save the

1592
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,679
large tree and keeping the fence wood to

1593
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,000
help absorb the sound from the work in

1594
01:27:25,679 --> 01:27:30,320
their shops, protecting the piece of our

1595
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:32,239
tenants as well as our property. My

1596
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,639
husband is unable to attend because of

1597
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:36,639
work and due to a brain injury, I have a

1598
01:27:34,639 --> 01:27:38,960
hard time speaking. Please consider our

1599
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:42,000
comments for your decision.

1600
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:46,760
» Okay. Thank you.

1601
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,760
Anybody wish to speak against the item.

1602
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:53,199
So Cassie, what's the issue with the

1603
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:55,360
planning commission more go with wood

1604
01:27:53,199 --> 01:27:58,400
rather than the metal? There was a

1605
01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:00,320
question as to whether or not uh wood or

1606
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,800
whether or not metal would absorb as

1607
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,719
much sound as wood. Um so they

1608
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,520
ultimately decided that it should remain

1609
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:11,040
as solid wood since they didn't have a

1610
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:14,040
um a test one way or another.

1611
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,040
» Okay.

1612
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,239
Any other questions?

1613
01:28:16,639 --> 01:28:21,280
» Can we ask questions?

1614
01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:22,960
» Yes. Uh you said when discussing this

1615
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,719
particular item that the board had

1616
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:27,199
previously approved it with those

1617
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:28,880
conditions originally the 20ft buffer

1618
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:29,679
and the solid wood fence.

1619
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,199
» Yes.

1620
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:32,719
» What was the reasoning behind those

1621
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:34,159
being the conditions then? I mean not

1622
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:36,639
necessarily the setback but the wood

1623
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:38,239
fence. It's a noise issue, right?

1624
01:28:36,639 --> 01:28:40,960
» Um it so they're going to be doing

1625
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:45,080
manufacturing. So it was to block

1626
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,080
there's a residential property.

1627
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:51,840
So, um, right

1628
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:54,239
» That doesn't sound much noisy.

1629
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,960
» Um, well,

1630
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:59,040
sorry. So, right there, uh, the property

1631
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,880
lined in blue, the one right next to it,

1632
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,639
there's a home there. So, that's to

1633
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,760
protect that house is why they placed

1634
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:05,280
the conditions on there.

1635
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,920
» That's 252, right?

1636
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:10,320
» Yes. 252 Horstamp Church Road.

1637
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:13,040
» Okay. And that's the homeowner. That's

1638
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:14,719
the the people that live where you just

1639
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,199
read the comment from, correct?

1640
01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:21,679
» Yes. and and they would prefer to keep

1641
01:29:17,199 --> 01:29:23,280
it solid wood versus metal. Okay,

1642
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:26,440
» Those are the only questions I had.

1643
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,440
Thank you.

1644
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:32,080
» Anybody else?

1645
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:34,080
» If I could just ask for what what are

1646
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:36,320
what's being fabricated there?

1647
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,719
» Uh metal buildings. They're um they're

1648
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,520
going to be just putting them together.

1649
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:42,320
» Okay. So,

1650
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,520
» Yeah, there's no

1651
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,920
you'll be putting the buildings

1652
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,840
together. There's no sawing. I mean,

1653
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,760
other than the general day-to-day stuff,

1654
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:52,760
I mean,

1655
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,760
» Yeah,

1656
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:56,560
» Fabric,

1657
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,280
» Right? Okay.

1658
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:03,320
» The buildings don't go together

1659
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,320
on a truck, go wherever

1660
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:09,440
it

1661
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:12,080
is. Not there's not a lot of noise.

1662
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:16,800
Backup alarm at Ocean makes us put on

1663
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:19,520
the forklift louder than anything we do.

1664
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:22,320
» Okay.

1665
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:26,760
» All right. Anything else?

1666
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,760
» Our building also will be sprayful.

1667
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:38,000
» Okay.

1668
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:40,080
Okay. Seeing nothing else, uh, make a

1669
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,679
motion to adjourn the public hearing and

1670
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,280
reconvene the regular meeting.

1671
01:30:41,679 --> 01:30:47,120
» Second, Mr. Chairman.

1672
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:48,880
» Have a motion in a second. All in favor?

1673
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,840
» Now moving to the regular meeting.

1674
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,520
Cassie.

1675
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,480
» Okay. We have a request to reszone

1676
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:58,239
approximately 2 acres from a 9.7 acre

1677
01:30:54,480 --> 01:31:00,080
track located at 6522 Bailey Mill Road.

1678
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:02,560
The reszone is going to be from

1679
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,639
agricultural forestry to agricultural

1680
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:08,080
res residential and planning commission

1681
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:09,920
recommends approval.

1682
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:13,120
» Okay.

1683
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:17,360
Having heard, you entertain a motion.

1684
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:20,639
» Mr. Chairman, I'll move to approve uh

1685
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:22,639
the zoning map amendment for RZN 26

1686
01:31:20,639 --> 01:31:24,719
triple07.

1687
01:31:22,639 --> 01:31:26,080
» I'll second.

1688
01:31:24,719 --> 01:31:29,040
We have a motion and a second for

1689
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:32,639
approval. All in favor?

1690
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:34,480
Motion carries. Next item.

1691
01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:36,320
» Next up, we have a special use request

1692
01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:38,080
to amend the conditions placed on this

1693
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,880
parcel during reasonzoning by the board

1694
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:43,840
of commissioners. Uh the [clears throat]

1695
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:47,520
request is to reduce the 20 foot wide

1696
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:49,600
buffer by 3 ft, making the buffer 17 ft,

1697
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:52,239
and to amend the type of material for

1698
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,560
fencing from solid wood to a 29 gauge

1699
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:56,880
aggregated metal panel with a faux wood

1700
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:58,639
finish. Planning Commission recommends

1701
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:01,199
approval with the condition that the

1702
01:31:58,639 --> 01:32:02,960
three-foot setback reduction only be for

1703
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:05,120
the location of the tree they are trying

1704
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:08,840
to save and the fence material must

1705
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,840
remain solid wood.

1706
01:32:09,199 --> 01:32:14,320
Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve

1707
01:32:11,679 --> 01:32:16,480
the three-foot setback reduction to save

1708
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:20,000
the tree,

1709
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:22,159
but I'd also like to

1710
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,159
uh have in the motion that we allow the

1711
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:25,360
use of the metal fencing rather than the

1712
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:27,199
wood.

1713
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:30,960
I'll second that.

1714
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:34,000
» We have a motion and a second.

1715
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:36,880
» All in favor?

1716
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,920
» All opposed?

1717
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,239
» Thank you.

1718
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,239
» Thank you, ma'am.

1719
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:03,440
Okay, moving on to item three.

1720
01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:04,719
» All right, gentlemen. I'm back again. Um

1721
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:06,560
again for the first reading of the

1722
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:07,840
addition of chapter 12 parks and recck

1723
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:11,280
facilities to the official code of

1724
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:13,360
Camden County, Georgia. Uh again, there

1725
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,199
was no or there are currently no

1726
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,960
ordinances in the county official code

1727
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:19,520
pertaining to county owned parks and rec

1728
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:21,360
facilities. Um, and this will establish

1729
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,840
the use, operation, and management of

1730
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,239
the parks and recreational areas managed

1731
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,400
by the county. Um, and this will also

1732
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:30,480
help uh ensure the protection of public

1733
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:32,000
health and safety while also ensuring

1734
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:33,440
the stewardship of county assets and

1735
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,800
operations.

1736
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:36,719
» Okay,

1737
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:39,040
» Mr. Chairman, I move to wave the first

1738
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:41,120
reading of this ordinance, but I would

1739
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:44,080
like uh Jared to answer some questions

1740
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:46,239
regarding the ordinance.

1741
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,320
» Okay, we have a motion to uh wave the

1742
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:50,800
first reading. I'll second. Open for

1743
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:53,040
discussion.

1744
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:56,000
» I guess I'll just ask my questions now.

1745
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,440
Um, so has our legal council had a

1746
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,239
chance to review the ordinance?

1747
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:02,639
» Yes.

1748
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:04,400
» Is that better, Jim? Thank you. Uh,

1749
01:34:02,639 --> 01:34:06,320
okay. So, I had some questions about

1750
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,600
some of the verbiage here. So, on the

1751
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,199
first page, under authorized

1752
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:12,480
representative, it says Camden County

1753
01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:14,159
Sheriff's Department. Um, legally, it's

1754
01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:15,520
the the the sheriff's office is a

1755
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,560
constitutional office. So, I want to

1756
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,719
make sure we correct that from

1757
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,760
department to office.

1758
01:34:18,719 --> 01:34:22,800
» Okay.

1759
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:25,600
» Um, it says that those authorized

1760
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:28,080
representatives will be assigned in

1761
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:30,320
writing. Um, and I was just wondering

1762
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,880
where we're going to be keeping a list

1763
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,560
of authorized representatives. So, like

1764
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,480
if I'm at a park enjoying myself and

1765
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:39,040
someone approaches me and says that they

1766
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:40,480
are

1767
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,159
I'm with the county and you got to

1768
01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:43,760
leave, how how can I verify that they're

1769
01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:47,120
an authorized representative? Where are

1770
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:49,360
those going to be kept in writing at?

1771
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,840
» Um, I would assume that at at this time

1772
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,440
I I don't have that. I I I I would

1773
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,159
assume that the administration is going

1774
01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:59,199
to keep a running u role of who what

1775
01:34:56,159 --> 01:35:01,440
departments have that uh ability to to

1776
01:34:59,199 --> 01:35:01,679
enforce these ordinances.

1777
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:02,880
» Okay.

1778
01:35:01,679 --> 01:35:05,120
» I would take that as something similar

1779
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,480
to the way we we we swear in an animal

1780
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,800
control officer. I would think that that

1781
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:10,320
would be a s a similar program or code

1782
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,480
enforcement that these people have

1783
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,000
authority to

1784
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:15,360
um address that if that that's

1785
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,960
addressing your concerns who was has

1786
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,320
authority within the county.

1787
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,920
» So the sheriff's office will need

1788
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:22,000
separate written authorization to be an

1789
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,639
authorized representative.

1790
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,880
» No, no, no, no, no, no. Authorized means

1791
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:28,960
the sheriff's office,

1792
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,280
a member of public works, or if we

1793
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:34,080
designate another, let's say we allowed

1794
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:35,360
code enforcement to to do something

1795
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,719
within there that they would be listed

1796
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,159
as an authorized person.

1797
01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:39,760
» Okay. Yeah, I think I'm seeing it.

1798
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:41,760
» But but code enforcement already would

1799
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,920
be because they already are sworn in,

1800
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:46,320
right? So So that that that's where that

1801
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:48,960
is. So the main the main group is

1802
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:50,639
obviously um the custodial of the

1803
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,199
day-to-day is on the park is public

1804
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:55,040
works. We're going to use uh the county

1805
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:57,120
sheriff as assistance to enforce any

1806
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:59,600
rules, anybody that's, you know, not

1807
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:02,400
abiding by our ordinances. Um and then

1808
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,400
any other administration as needed, um

1809
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,600
you know, that's designated as as that

1810
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:08,800
role.

1811
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:12,840
» Okay. Um

1812
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,840
uh so under section

1813
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:17,120
on the very top of the third page, that

1814
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:19,920
section be there, it shall be unlawful

1815
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:21,679
for any person. That's that item there

1816
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,520
says any person violating the subsection

1817
01:36:21,679 --> 01:36:26,080
shall be punished by a fine up to 500 or

1818
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:29,360
imprisoned up to 30 days or both. My

1819
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:32,000
question is this a jailable offense.

1820
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:34,880
» Uh so like an authorized representative

1821
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:37,040
says you have to leave and you don't

1822
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,480
uh and they're subject to these things.

1823
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,840
If it's arrestable, I guess it would

1824
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:43,040
have to have a bond or else someone's

1825
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,560
sitting in jail until that that's the

1826
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,639
challenge we have right now with law

1827
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,080
enforcement trying to enforce our

1828
01:36:46,639 --> 01:36:50,320
ordinances is someone would be sitting

1829
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,920
in jail until it's heard in court.

1830
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:55,440
» That's a separate issue. Uh,

1831
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:56,880
Commissioner, as far as a a bond, um,

1832
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:58,880
depending on the nature of the offense

1833
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:01,679
is either heard by the magistrate court

1834
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,360
who uh does first appearance hearings or

1835
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:04,800
given a certain level of offense is

1836
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:08,880
heard by the superior court to set

1837
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:10,960
bonds. these kinds of offenses um either

1838
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:13,199
many times may have a schedule that

1839
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,280
allows somebody to bond out

1840
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:17,119
» Quite quite quickly

1841
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:22,320
» Like the way probate court does with

1842
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:24,000
some of the um county offenses or um if

1843
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,080
they're going before the magistrate has

1844
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,920
a bond set. Now, as far as somebody

1845
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,679
getting out at that point, that's, you

1846
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,360
know, there's issues with, you know,

1847
01:37:29,679 --> 01:37:33,440
bonding agencies, but getting in front

1848
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,040
of a judge for this level of offense is

1849
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:36,320
different than something that a superior

1850
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,960
court judge may be handling.

1851
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,239
» Okay. So,

1852
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,760
» And it also is determinative of the

1853
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:40,320
district attorney's office, and that's a

1854
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,520
different issue.

1855
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,360
» Okay. So, people aren't going to be held

1856
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,040
in jail in

1857
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:47,360
» For for vi for violating a park.

1858
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,920
» No. And and the punishment particularly

1859
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,520
with this is at a sentencing stage. That

1860
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:54,400
that's what that's really referencing.

1861
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:56,719
» Okay. Also, if you look at that as any

1862
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,719
prohibited area, that's like if somebody

1863
01:37:56,719 --> 01:38:00,639
got out there in the middle of a

1864
01:37:58,719 --> 01:38:02,719
baseball field with a four-wheel drive

1865
01:38:00,639 --> 01:38:03,920
truck and they tore the field up,

1866
01:38:02,719 --> 01:38:05,360
» Right? Well, I'm also thinking about

1867
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,119
Howard People's Park. People, you know,

1868
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,639
we have all that. It's kind of blocked

1869
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:10,880
off, but people set up in the back

1870
01:38:08,639 --> 01:38:12,560
behind the ball fields over by the

1871
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:15,440
Frisbee golf. I just don't want people

1872
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,960
to be trying to enjoy the park harmless

1873
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:17,199
harmlessly and then all of a sudden

1874
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,040
they're

1875
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:20,560
» Well and there's a different and I think

1876
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,840
that that that might be getting a little

1877
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,440
bit into the weeds here because I think

1878
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,800
that it's ultimately determinative of a

1879
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:26,639
court if there was to be an offense

1880
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,400
issued and that's also up to law

1881
01:38:26,639 --> 01:38:31,840
enforcement as to what what is being

1882
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:34,159
enforced and how it's being enforced.

1883
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:36,480
» Uh

1884
01:38:34,159 --> 01:38:39,280
one, two, three, four. So on the fifth

1885
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:41,040
page, um hours of public access to

1886
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:44,239
parks, historic sites, and recreational

1887
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:46,000
area, it says county parks, historic

1888
01:38:44,239 --> 01:38:47,760
sites, recreational areas will be open

1889
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,400
for use of the public between sunrise

1890
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:53,199
and sunset or at times designated by

1891
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:55,040
county supervised activity.

1892
01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:57,440
My question is what constitutes a county

1893
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:59,520
supervised activity? I know we have at

1894
01:38:57,440 --> 01:39:01,199
Howard People's Park, for example, the

1895
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:03,840
I'm glad you asked people playing pickle

1896
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:06,639
ball into the night. So one so one of

1897
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:09,760
them would be that would be one. Another

1898
01:39:06,639 --> 01:39:12,239
one would be um we have a a portion of

1899
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:14,480
the uh county that is looking to do a

1900
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:17,119
special um

1901
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:18,880
like themed event at Sugar Mill and it's

1902
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:20,159
at dusk. They're going to have it candle

1903
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:23,119
lit. They're going to have people in

1904
01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:25,520
person um actors that are portraying um

1905
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:27,040
people of that that era that you will be

1906
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,199
able to basically go through that park

1907
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:31,360
and have an experience of the Sugarmill

1908
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:33,760
Ruins. So that would be an example of a

1909
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:36,639
a county hosted event that is going to

1910
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:38,239
occur uh after sunset. So it' be things

1911
01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:40,000
like that. It'd be at the county's

1912
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:42,560
discretion if we're authorizing things

1913
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:44,639
to continue after sunset in the parks.

1914
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,560
Obviously, if it's a a basketball court

1915
01:39:44,639 --> 01:39:49,040
that's lighted, a pickle ball court

1916
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:52,080
that's lighted, those are designated to

1917
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:54,480
uh be used. Uh what we don't want is say

1918
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,000
a park like um Howard uh not Howard

1919
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:58,000
People's uh Harriet's Bluff Park that

1920
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:01,040
isn't lit up. We don't need to have

1921
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:03,920
people that are just, you know, um doing

1922
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:06,719
activities in that park that isn't lit.

1923
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:08,239
Um are become more of a liability issue

1924
01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:09,760
of, you know, them being injured on

1925
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:12,000
something. They can't see what they're

1926
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,639
doing because it's, you know, a dimly uh

1927
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,800
dim park, things those of that nature.

1928
01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:16,400
I'm

1929
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,920
» Not trying to target pickle ball in

1930
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,400
particular, but I just think that's the

1931
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,320
most prevalent example I can think of.

1932
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:25,360
Will those be extended hours that are

1933
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,719
set or is it just when people are done

1934
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,360
playing pickle ball? cuz the lights kind

1935
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:29,199
of stay on all

1936
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,560
» The lights stay on to a point. So,

1937
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:33,119
that's something that we're going to

1938
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,199
move towards as a as a community and a

1939
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:36,960
county. Um we're going to have more and

1940
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:39,840
more lighted the the goal is to have

1941
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,920
more and more lighted um facilities and

1942
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:44,400
then at that point we'll then determine

1943
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:46,320
okay do the timers go off automatically

1944
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:48,159
at 10:00 and that and that's the the

1945
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,760
time that the that the hook is pulled

1946
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:52,560
right and and everyone needs to leave

1947
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:55,199
the park. Uh we'll we'll go through that

1948
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,639
as we update and and add to these parks

1949
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:59,440
uh these amenities.

1950
01:40:56,639 --> 01:41:01,280
» Okay. Uh public works uh department

1951
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:03,520
shall formulate rules and regulations

1952
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:05,440
covering these particular activities

1953
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:06,800
mentioned here on the next page. Uh it

1954
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:08,639
says rules and regulations not become

1955
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:11,840
effective until approved by the board.

1956
01:41:08,639 --> 01:41:14,960
My question is are those going to be

1957
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,639
published and maintained somewhere? Um,

1958
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,400
I want to make sure people that are are

1959
01:41:16,639 --> 01:41:19,679
enjoying a county park are aware of the

1960
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,080
rules that they're going to be subject

1961
01:41:19,679 --> 01:41:25,119
to or could be questioned on by a county

1962
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:26,480
representative. So, um, I guess are all

1963
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:28,080
the rules we're going to hold people

1964
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:30,239
accountable to, will those be posted at

1965
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:32,320
the park?

1966
01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:33,520
» They would likely be accessible. So, I

1967
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,119
don't think we're going to post a whole

1968
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,520
copy of this ordinance, but Oh, yeah.

1969
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:37,840
Not this.

1970
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:40,080
» But notice

1971
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:42,239
to be able to obtain or or say if you

1972
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:45,280
want to rent this facility, go to blah

1973
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:47,199
might be way to address that. Um,

1974
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:50,239
» And and we'll have general signage that

1975
01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:52,800
might say, you know, no um no pets,

1976
01:41:50,239 --> 01:41:54,480
unleash pets beyond this point, no

1977
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:56,800
vehicles beyond this point. Those will

1978
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:57,679
all be referencing these code code and

1979
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,719
ordinances.

1980
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:00,159
» Okay.

1981
01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:02,000
» Right now, we right now we could put

1982
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:02,880
that sign out, but we have no ordinance

1983
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,960
to right

1984
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:07,360
» To enforce it based on that's what we're

1985
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:10,400
trying to establish here.

1986
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:14,080
And just for te um text uh in just

1987
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:16,159
context um I I went and took the

1988
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:18,560
ordinances that are in many surrounding

1989
01:42:16,159 --> 01:42:21,360
communities both uh in Georgia and

1990
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:24,080
Florida in our neighboring communities

1991
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,239
and and pulled from their established

1992
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,760
ordinances. Um don't need to reinvent

1993
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:29,679
the wheel on communities that have

1994
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:32,400
already gone down this path, right? Um

1995
01:42:29,679 --> 01:42:34,800
and then and then tailored it to us. Um,

1996
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:37,040
so this is kind of a conglomerate of

1997
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,400
what's already being seen around our

1998
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,280
neighboring communities in their own

1999
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:43,440
parks,

2000
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:46,320
» Right? I think my two more questions.

2001
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:49,280
So, uh, cleanup uh, event organizer

2002
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:52,320
qualifications and timelines. Um, it has

2003
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:54,400
the provision in here about getting a

2004
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:56,880
certificate of insurance up to a million

2005
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,480
dollars. My question is, I know in the

2006
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,320
future we're planning on developing some

2007
01:42:58,480 --> 01:43:02,239
sort of adopt a park program where we

2008
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,159
could have organized cleanups. Would

2009
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:05,920
those groups also be required to obtain

2010
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:07,840
a certificate of insurance or is this

2011
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,920
for like hosting?

2012
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,199
» No, this would be hosting a festival.

2013
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,080
This would be like an open air

2014
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:17,920
invitation to let's say Cornelia Jackson

2015
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:20,560
Park to have a big uh festival that like

2016
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:23,360
we had this year that just happened at

2017
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,840
that park uh alongside the crawfish

2018
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:28,159
festival. Well, there was no policing

2019
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:30,320
that that event. That event was

2020
01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:32,719
unsanctioned by the county, we'll say.

2021
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:34,960
It was just hosted by people that put up

2022
01:43:32,719 --> 01:43:36,880
on a Facebook account that, hey, anybody

2023
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:39,360
that wants to come here can do this,

2024
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:42,080
that, and and and the other. Um, at the

2025
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:43,760
end of the day, the the park, you know,

2026
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:46,880
it took us two days to recover that

2027
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:48,960
park. Um, there was nobody then to go

2028
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:50,880
back to and say, you know, your event

2029
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,840
caused this damage. The county needs,

2030
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:56,239
you know, funding to to recover that. So

2031
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:58,639
that was that portion of this ordinance

2032
01:43:56,239 --> 01:44:00,880
is establishing those rules that we can

2033
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:03,440
try to regulate and and try to protect

2034
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:05,760
ourselves and the parks in the liability

2035
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:07,920
of having these big open air events.

2036
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,239
» So large large organized events, not

2037
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,920
necessarily uh an impromptu family

2038
01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:14,159
reunion. And then prop two, family

2039
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:17,280
reunion. As long as they're not over

2040
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:20,080
like we have each event, each um item or

2041
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:23,520
each pavilion has a set occupancy that

2042
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:26,159
is normed deemed a a normal event. Might

2043
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,840
be 50, might be 75 people. Now, if

2044
01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:30,080
you're talking over a hundred people,

2045
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,719
now we go into more of a special event.

2046
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:35,440
Or if it's a um a church that might

2047
01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:37,199
have, say, an open invitation that's

2048
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:38,800
just out there, they need to go through

2049
01:44:37,199 --> 01:44:42,239
the special event because we just need

2050
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:44,159
to refine more the their obligations to

2051
01:44:42,239 --> 01:44:46,080
the rental of that pavilion that if

2052
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:47,760
they're, you know, if they're inviting

2053
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,000
anybody off the street to come to the

2054
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,040
event, they are responsible of what that

2055
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,000
person might

2056
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,320
» And advertised.

2057
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,560
» Yes. whatever that person may do at that

2058
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,960
event, right? Um, so we just got to make

2059
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,400
sure that we do have that that

2060
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,000
organization that is going to be

2061
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,520
responsible at the end of the day.

2062
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:06,719
» And the last question or probably more

2063
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:09,280
of a cleanup on the second to last page

2064
01:45:06,719 --> 01:45:11,119
under public safety personnel fees, it

2065
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,719
just says if the department determines.

2066
01:45:11,119 --> 01:45:16,360
I imagine that's your department, but I

2067
01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:16,360
think we might want to specify.

2068
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,719
be

2069
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,639
it's going to be a joint between my

2070
01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:25,920
department and the sheriff's because I'm

2071
01:45:24,639 --> 01:45:27,280
anytime we're going to have a large

2072
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,280
event and I'm going to run it by the

2073
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:31,280
sheriff office on whether or not they

2074
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:35,159
feel that the event needs to be staffed

2075
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,159
by a public safety officer.

2076
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,560
» Okay. So again, I think we should be

2077
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:40,400
specific though if the public works

2078
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,320
department or sheriff's office

2079
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,840
determines, you know, be being

2080
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:47,159
intentional about being specific about

2081
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,159
who's responsible.

2082
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:52,000
Okay, good.

2083
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:53,920
» Thank you.

2084
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:56,400
» Okay, we have a motion on the floor to

2085
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:58,480
wave the first reading.

2086
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,239
I have a motion in a second. Any forward

2087
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:02,960
discussion? All in favor?

2088
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:05,600
» I got Well, I got one thing. Um, hours

2089
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:07,920
of public access to parks and historic

2090
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,600
site and recreation area. That doesn't

2091
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:09,920
include boat ramps, does it?

2092
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,159
» No.

2093
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:14,719
» Those boat ramps are 24/7.

2094
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:16,400
» Again. Yes. And again, most of our boat

2095
01:46:14,719 --> 01:46:19,520
ramps are well, yeah, most of them are

2096
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,560
lit up. Yeah,

2097
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:24,639
» That's all.

2098
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:26,000
» Anything else? All in favor?

2099
01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:27,119
Motion carries.

2100
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,840
» Thank you.

2101
01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:31,520
» Item number four, Jared,

2102
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:34,520
» Give me a second. I got too many papers

2103
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,520
here.

2104
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:41,119
» All right. Um in front of you tonight is

2105
01:46:37,679 --> 01:46:43,119
item agenda four or agenda item four,

2106
01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:45,280
five, and six will all have to do with

2107
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:48,239
uh projects that were currently co-oping

2108
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:50,639
on the base um the naval base with. Um

2109
01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:52,880
so the first one is a new generator for

2110
01:46:50,639 --> 01:46:54,480
their communication towers on the base.

2111
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:57,760
It's for the approval of purchase and

2112
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:59,040
installation. Uh the revenue on that, so

2113
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,560
the final check we'll get from the

2114
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:03,560
Department of Defense will be

2115
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,560
$47,811.50.

2116
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:09,040
The true expense of the project is

2117
01:47:06,719 --> 01:47:11,280
43,465.

2118
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:15,760
So that that brings in a you know a

2119
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:19,360
profit to the county of um $4,346.50.

2120
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:21,440
And yes, we will hold them to the 50. Um

2121
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,800
so we're just looking for consider the

2122
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:24,880
approval of the purchase installation of

2123
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:27,600
the new generator uh for the comm's

2124
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:30,239
tower on the naval base. Um, as you guys

2125
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:33,440
know, um, we've gone into a IGSA with

2126
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:35,119
the the Navy and to and this year to

2127
01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:38,239
help support infrastructure maintenance

2128
01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:40,719
projects and to help bring, um, funding

2129
01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:43,119
to the unincorporated side for capital

2130
01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:44,719
improvements for public works. Um,

2131
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:46,400
quotes received were two local

2132
01:47:44,719 --> 01:47:47,679
electrical contractors that are cleared

2133
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:50,400
and certified to perform the

2134
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:52,000
installation on the naval base. Quotes

2135
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,280
include removal of existing unit,

2136
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,840
purchase and delivery of the new

2137
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:58,000
generator, installation, and startup. Um

2138
01:47:55,840 --> 01:48:00,800
the estimated delivery is 18 weeks from

2139
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,560
approval. So I will generate a uh

2140
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:05,040
purchase order for this. They will order

2141
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:07,119
the unit. Um we will be invoicing the

2142
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:09,280
base for that that unit and we will

2143
01:48:07,119 --> 01:48:11,360
receive the money um from the base for

2144
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:13,840
the unit itself before the unit is

2145
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:16,960
delivered. So we won't be out there um

2146
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:18,639
with the money uh paying on on this unit

2147
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,280
um for months on end before we get

2148
01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:21,840
payment from the DoD.

2149
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,960
The lowest [snorts and clears throat]

2150
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:26,400
received quote is for a Generrack SD030

2151
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,800
from Satillaa Air and Electric

2152
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,800
Contractors out of Kingsland. And the

2153
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:33,040
IGSA includes a fee schedule to cover

2154
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:35,840
any other additional expenses. Uh and

2155
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:37,920
the motion um to approve this uh

2156
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:40,239
purchase and installation um is

2157
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:42,880
recommended by staff. Uh and just for

2158
01:48:40,239 --> 01:48:45,199
clarification, um I am the only one

2159
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:47,520
that's doing any work on the base for

2160
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:49,760
this project and it's more in a uh

2161
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:52,239
contractor or a general uh foreman for

2162
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,719
the project. Um we're vetting the

2163
01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:56,480
project through um got quotes uh

2164
01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:59,360
solicited uh from different vendors

2165
01:48:56,480 --> 01:49:01,119
quotes. Uh met them on site. Um you

2166
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:05,920
know, ballpark on the end of this

2167
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:08,639
project. if I have 25 hours on base um

2168
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:10,320
invested in this um we're not putting

2169
01:49:08,639 --> 01:49:11,920
any other additional manpower into it

2170
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:15,159
and and the county is going to bring in,

2171
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,159
you know, $4,300.

2172
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,080
» Mr. Chairman, I move to approve the

2173
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,080
purchase and installation of a generator

2174
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:23,440
for the communications tower on Naval

2175
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,480
Submarine Base Kings Bay.

2176
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:26,639
» Second.

2177
01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:30,159
» We have a motion and a second. Any

2178
01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:32,000
discussion? All in favor?

2179
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:34,159
Motion carries.

2180
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:38,320
All right. So, items number five and six

2181
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:41,040
coincide. Um, one is the awarding HVAC

2182
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:44,080
installation contract for a uh

2183
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:46,400
installation of a uh cooling unit and

2184
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:48,639
the uh number six is the purchase of the

2185
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:51,040
cool cooling unit outright. Um, so

2186
01:49:48,639 --> 01:49:52,719
number five is the ward of HVAC

2187
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:54,080
installation contract for the child

2188
01:49:52,719 --> 01:49:56,560
development center on the naval

2189
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:58,960
submarine base, Kings Bay. [snorts]

2190
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:00,400
Um, quotes received from two local

2191
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,800
commercial heating and cooling

2192
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:05,520
contractors to install a new Evapco

2193
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:07,199
cooling tower unit at the CDC. Quotes

2194
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,960
include the removal and disposal of the

2195
01:50:07,199 --> 01:50:11,119
existing unit, installation of the new

2196
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:14,080
unit, and startup. The lowest quote

2197
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:16,480
received is from Comfort Systems USA uh,

2198
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:18,239
incorporated and they are utilizing an

2199
01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:20,239
Omnia Partners cooperative purchasing

2200
01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:22,080
contract. Um, so we're already getting

2201
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:24,091
competitive pricing on their labor and

2202
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,119
their installation.

2203
01:50:24,091 --> 01:50:27,600
» [cough]

2204
01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:29,040
» Uh motion is to the department

2205
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,679
recommends to approve the installation

2206
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:36,000
contract for comfort systems USA uh for

2207
01:50:31,679 --> 01:50:40,800
the cooling tower. Um real quick again

2208
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:42,800
35,750 is our revenue. 32,500

2209
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:46,320
um is our expenses. So we're looking at

2210
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:48,960
uh bringing in u $3,250 for this for

2211
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:50,560
this process.

2212
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,080
» Okay.

2213
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,679
Do we have a motion?

2214
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,600
» Mr. Chairman, I move to approve the

2215
01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:57,040
award of an HVAC installation contract

2216
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,920
for the child development center on

2217
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:02,159
Naval Summer Base Kings Bay.

2218
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:03,920
» I'll second.

2219
01:51:02,159 --> 01:51:04,560
» Have a motion in a second. Any

2220
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,360
discussion?

2221
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:09,520
» I wanted to ask, so you said about

2222
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:12,639
$4,000 worth of profit on the previous

2223
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:14,719
mo and then this one's about $3,000

2224
01:51:12,639 --> 01:51:16,159
worth of profit. It was stated earlier

2225
01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:19,360
during public comment that you would

2226
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:22,320
need to perform about $2 million worth

2227
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:24,159
of projects to be able to afford the

2228
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,639
excavator that we have down here on item

2229
01:51:24,159 --> 01:51:25,280
7.

2230
01:51:24,639 --> 01:51:28,960
» That is correct.

2231
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:30,880
» So my question is about how many

2232
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,880
millions of dollars or dollars worth of

2233
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,000
projects do you have currently on the

2234
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:37,360
books with the

2235
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:39,360
» So these projects um seem minute. Um

2236
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:41,599
they're really big uh important projects

2237
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:43,679
on the base. These are projects that are

2238
01:51:41,599 --> 01:51:44,960
being funded mostly at the end of their

2239
01:51:43,679 --> 01:51:47,280
fiscal year. The end of their fiscal

2240
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:49,199
year ends September 30th. So these are

2241
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,960
projects that they have gotten funding

2242
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:53,440
last minute that's been said, "All

2243
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,880
right, here's this funding. You know, if

2244
01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:56,320
you have something, you can utilize it."

2245
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:58,960
So these are items that have been on

2246
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:00,719
their waiting list for just this thing.

2247
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:02,560
Um, so a lot of these, they actually

2248
01:52:00,719 --> 01:52:05,280
came to me with like the generator

2249
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:08,320
already with two quotes, did most of the

2250
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:10,239
leg work. Um, and they just they know by

2251
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:12,880
utilizing us and our purchasing policy

2252
01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:15,599
and and the program that we have, we can

2253
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:17,119
get it done uh and and get them under

2254
01:52:15,599 --> 01:52:18,400
contract before the end of the fiscal

2255
01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:20,800
year. Otherwise, the money would have

2256
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:22,400
just been lost and given back, lost that

2257
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,560
opportunity to improve something on the

2258
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,840
base before September 30th if they went

2259
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:28,239
through their normal protocol through

2260
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:30,719
their own their own systems. So this is

2261
01:52:28,239 --> 01:52:32,239
just a this is actually a big perk for

2262
01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:34,320
them because they're able to get

2263
01:52:32,239 --> 01:52:36,239
projects done on base that would

2264
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,239
probably have just gone to the wayside

2265
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:40,639
and in the end we're basically on

2266
01:52:38,239 --> 01:52:43,599
average on all these projects we we get

2267
01:52:40,639 --> 01:52:45,679
10% right off the top. So whatever the

2268
01:52:43,599 --> 01:52:48,639
project you know comes in at we're

2269
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:49,920
getting 10% on top of that. That 10% is

2270
01:52:48,639 --> 01:52:52,080
coming back to the county.

2271
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,239
» So we're on track to make the $200,000

2272
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:55,920
you need for the excavator coming up. So

2273
01:52:54,239 --> 01:52:58,400
over the last three years, this will be

2274
01:52:55,920 --> 01:53:01,199
our third year with doing IGSA, we've

2275
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:03,599
always done $2 million work um in just

2276
01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:05,520
road alone in road improvements. That's

2277
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:08,239
already being scheduled and already in

2278
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:11,119
the books. On top of that $2 million,

2279
01:53:08,239 --> 01:53:12,960
they already have well over $9 million

2280
01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:14,800
uh associated and projects that we are

2281
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:17,599
going to be working on and and doing

2282
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:19,440
third party uh work on. Be it roofing,

2283
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:21,920
heating and cooling, railroad track

2284
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:24,400
crossing repairs, uh specialty equipment

2285
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:26,639
down on the waterfront base, um repairs

2286
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,560
on underground steam line. Again, these

2287
01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:31,360
are all projects that we are going to be

2288
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:33,599
the middleman uh the project manager on

2289
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:35,280
and that we aren't going to be doing um

2290
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:36,639
any major work on the property

2291
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,239
ourselves. It's all going to be

2292
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:39,360
thirdparty subcontractors.

2293
01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:40,800
» And you're not doing that just because

2294
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,719
you like extra work. You're doing that

2295
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,239
because we signed an intergovernmental

2296
01:53:42,719 --> 01:53:44,800
service agreement to provide that to the

2297
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:47,440
base. Correct.

2298
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:49,280
» And I stepped up at, you know, in in May

2299
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:51,119
when we talked about the budget and I

2300
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,400
said that we weren't going to utilize

2301
01:53:51,119 --> 01:53:54,960
any capital funds out of the

2302
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:56,800
unincorporated fund for public works

2303
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,480
this year that we were going to go earn

2304
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,119
it on the base and this is us doing

2305
01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:00,880
that.

2306
01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:03,280
» Absolutely. So, thank you.

2307
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,800
» No problem.

2308
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:07,840
» We have a motion and a second. Any

2309
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:10,080
further discussion? All in favor?

2310
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:12,400
Motion carries.

2311
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:14,080
» Uh item number six goes along with five.

2312
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:16,560
So it's the approval to purchase that

2313
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:18,719
Evapco cooling tower unit uh for the

2314
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,560
child development center on the base. Um

2315
01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:23,520
we're buying this unit directly from the

2316
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:25,119
manufacturer. Um we looked at two

2317
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,440
different units that could fit on the

2318
01:54:25,119 --> 01:54:29,679
existing foot uh footprint and

2319
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:32,239
configuration in the building. Um these

2320
01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:36,320
two uh there was two models. Um, one was

2321
01:54:32,239 --> 01:54:39,520
an Evacco unit. One was a um, recaloo

2322
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:41,840
unit. Um, the evacco unit came in under

2323
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:43,199
uh, way underpriced compared to the

2324
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,360
other unit and that's the the unit that

2325
01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:46,800
the base wanted to go with. Um, so

2326
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,960
that's what we're looking at. We got

2327
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,320
quotes from the two manufacturers. Um,

2328
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,320
they include purchase and delivery of

2329
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:53,920
the unit directly from the manufacturer

2330
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,000
and then installation will be performed

2331
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:58,159
by the the previous agenda item that was

2332
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:01,599
just approved. Um, lowest quote was on

2333
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:03,599
that unit. Um, and we're looking to

2334
01:55:01,599 --> 01:55:05,760
approve uh the purchase of this unit

2335
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:08,480
directly from Heat Transfer Systems of

2336
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:10,960
Georgia. Um, which again, not only are

2337
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:13,119
we buying the unit direct, but on both

2338
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:15,199
sides, both the county and the and the

2339
01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:17,199
federal government are saving on the 7%

2340
01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:18,560
tax that we would have normally paid by

2341
01:55:17,199 --> 01:55:21,960
going through the contractor and buying

2342
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,960
that unit outright.

2343
01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:25,760
» Entertain a motion.

2344
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:28,080
» Mr. Chairman, I move to purchase the

2345
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:29,520
Evapco cooling tower unit for the child

2346
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:31,280
development center on Naval Submarine

2347
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:31,920
Base Kings Bay.

2348
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:33,840
» Second.

2349
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:37,040
» We have a motion and second. Any

2350
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:39,199
discussion? All in favor?

2351
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:40,719
» Motion carries.

2352
01:55:39,199 --> 01:55:42,960
» Item seven.

2353
01:55:40,719 --> 01:55:44,800
» All right. So, lastly is uh like we

2354
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,480
talked about is what we're trying to

2355
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,880
bring into the county, right? We're

2356
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:50,800
trying to use these opportunities of of

2357
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:53,440
making and bringing some funds from the

2358
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:56,080
naval base to bring in uh real equipment

2359
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:57,760
for public works. Uh so we're looking

2360
01:55:56,080 --> 01:56:00,880
for approval of the rental and purchase

2361
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:04,159
agreement of the link belt 350 X4

2362
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:06,719
excavator package. Um [clears throat]

2363
01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:09,599
our current the the actual endup price

2364
01:56:06,719 --> 01:56:11,280
would be $196,250.

2365
01:56:09,599 --> 01:56:14,239
It's going to come out of all revenues

2366
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:16,159
from the the the naval base. Um, our

2367
01:56:14,239 --> 01:56:18,719
current John Deere 200 excavator was

2368
01:56:16,159 --> 01:56:21,360
purchased in 2007 and is scheduled to be

2369
01:56:18,719 --> 01:56:24,400
replaced in fiscal year 2029 at an

2370
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:26,159
estimated cost of $375,000.

2371
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,920
Public Works has had at least two

2372
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:29,679
function or we require at least two

2373
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,520
functional excavators to dig and repair

2374
01:56:29,679 --> 01:56:33,520
roads, load materials into dump trucks,

2375
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,760
and perform other tasks for the county,

2376
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:38,159
especially in um um emergency

2377
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:40,960
situations. Uh we currently own two

2378
01:56:38,159 --> 01:56:43,440
excavators. We owned a two 2007 John

2379
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:46,400
Deere 200 series and a 2018 John Deere

2380
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:47,920
300 series. The John Deere 200 excavator

2381
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:50,880
has had multiple breakdowns totaling

2382
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:52,639
over $45,000 over the past year and it's

2383
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:55,199
just no longer effective as a frontline

2384
01:56:52,639 --> 01:56:56,960
excavator for our tasks. So, what we're

2385
01:56:55,199 --> 01:57:00,480
looking to do is we're looking to buy

2386
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:02,239
this uh excavator early, utilize the 200

2387
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,880
and get the last few years out of it,

2388
01:57:02,239 --> 01:57:06,960
but but try to prolong the use of that

2389
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:08,719
on our own property. Stop moving it

2390
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:10,639
across the county. stop that wear and

2391
01:57:08,719 --> 01:57:12,159
tear and get some more longevity out of

2392
01:57:10,639 --> 01:57:14,480
the equipment um before we need to

2393
01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:16,800
retire it. Um funding for the public

2394
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:19,119
works equipment u is approved in that in

2395
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:22,639
our budget u through the revenues on the

2396
01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:25,599
naval base. Um this specific unit is a

2397
01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:28,960
2025 link belt excavator. It's a former

2398
01:57:25,599 --> 01:57:30,960
longerterm rental unit with 2,700 hours

2399
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:33,119
of use and is in actually in great

2400
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:35,679
working order. uh excavator package

2401
01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:38,080
includes a hydraulic thumb, a 60-in

2402
01:57:35,679 --> 01:57:41,040
bucket, and the remaining of a 5-year

2403
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:44,400
5,000 hour warranty. Um that that

2404
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:45,920
expires uh of January 30th of 2030. So,

2405
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:48,639
we're we're taking over the warranty

2406
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:50,719
that is existing on the unit. A new unit

2407
01:57:48,639 --> 01:57:52,719
with the same specs currently retails at

2408
01:57:50,719 --> 01:57:54,719
$356,000.

2409
01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:57,679
Uh and additional quotes were received

2410
01:57:54,719 --> 01:57:58,960
for similar units in the market. Um, and

2411
01:57:57,679 --> 01:58:02,159
what we're going to do is we're going to

2412
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:05,280
rent this unit at a rate of8 $8,750 per

2413
01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:08,080
month through 2026. And we'll purchase

2414
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:09,599
the unit outright in January 2027. Uh,

2415
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,679
most of the rental fee will be applied

2416
01:58:09,599 --> 01:58:14,239
to the final cost of the unit. So, in

2417
01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:15,920
the this tax schedule shows that in the

2418
01:58:14,239 --> 01:58:18,239
next 4 months, essentially, we're going

2419
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:19,840
to pay $4,000 in interest, which is

2420
01:58:18,239 --> 01:58:21,760
essentially paying their note that they

2421
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:24,320
have on the unit themselves. Um, this

2422
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:26,960
gives us the opportunity to uh bring in

2423
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:28,400
all of the work and and and the funding

2424
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,920
from the projects that we're currently

2425
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,679
working on the base to cover the

2426
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,679
purchase of this unit. So, it gives us

2427
01:58:31,679 --> 01:58:35,199
that opportunity for the next 3 to four

2428
01:58:33,679 --> 01:58:37,280
months to bring that money back into the

2429
01:58:35,199 --> 01:58:40,280
b uh into the county coffers from the

2430
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,280
base.

2431
01:58:40,719 --> 01:58:42,960
Okay.

2432
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,719
» Entertain a motion.

2433
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:46,800
» Mr. Chairman, I move we approve this

2434
01:58:44,719 --> 01:58:49,440
item. Second.

2435
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:51,520
» Have a motion and a second. Discussion.

2436
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,320
All in favor?

2437
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:54,000
Motion carries.

2438
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:55,760
» Thank you, gentlemen.

2439
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,360
» We took item number eight off the

2440
01:58:55,760 --> 01:59:00,080
agenda. Now we're going to item number

2441
01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:02,320
nine, which is the drought study.

2442
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:04,080
» Good evening, commissioners. This agenda

2443
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:06,320
item is for your consideration to

2444
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:08,800
approve the contract with linker for the

2445
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:10,560
drought study for Camden County. Camden

2446
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:14,880
County Board of Commissioners approved a

2447
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:17,440
grant award on June 16th, 2026. For this

2448
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:19,840
purchasing rece issued an RFP and

2449
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:21,679
received two responses. Of the two,

2450
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:23,760
Linker was the most responsive and

2451
01:59:21,679 --> 01:59:26,159
responsible proposer that met all

2452
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:30,280
requirements. Staff recommends approval

2453
01:59:26,159 --> 01:59:30,280
to award the contract to Linker.

2454
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:37,199
» Entertain a motion.

2455
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:40,440
» I'll make a motion to approve.

2456
01:59:37,199 --> 01:59:40,440
» I'll second.

2457
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:44,159
Did we have a second?

2458
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:45,920
» Yeah.

2459
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:46,639
» Have a motion and a second. Discussion.

2460
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,239
Second.

2461
01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:49,760
» Uh, you said we've already approved the

2462
01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:51,440
the acceptance of the grant. How much

2463
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:54,560
was the grant for?

2464
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:56,400
» I know it was over about 80,000.

2465
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,880
» So, it's more than the 79,000.

2466
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:57,840
» Correct.

2467
01:59:56,880 --> 02:00:00,560
» Cool. Thank you.

2468
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:02,320
» You're welcome. This is within budget,

2469
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:02,960
so we won't have any funds.

2470
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:03,440
» Thank you, Mom.

2471
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:07,440
» You're welcome.

2472
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:09,360
» A motion in a second. All in favor?

2473
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:11,280
» Thank you.

2474
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:13,520
Moving on to item number 10 is the lease

2475
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:15,040
agreement for the uh Department of

2476
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:18,400
Juvenile Justice. This is just a

2477
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:21,360
standard thing we do. Um not much

2478
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:22,960
explanation necessary. Uh I make a

2479
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:25,199
motion we approve the lease agreement

2480
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,800
with the Department of Juvenile Justice.

2481
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:28,639
» Second.

2482
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:31,440
» Have a motion and a second. Any

2483
02:00:28,639 --> 02:00:33,760
discussion?

2484
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:36,239
All in favor?

2485
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:38,639
» Motion carries.

2486
02:00:36,239 --> 02:00:39,798
Moving

2487
02:00:38,639 --> 02:00:41,440
on to [laughter]

2488
02:00:39,798 --> 02:00:44,400
[gasps] the calendar.

2489
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:45,760
» There's no changes at this time. Uh,

2490
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,760
» County administrator's not here.

2491
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:50,719
Shannon, do you have any comment?

2492
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:52,560
» I do. Uh, good afternoon. This is just a

2493
02:00:50,719 --> 02:00:56,080
reminder that um, county administrator

2494
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:58,320
Yakabachi is away at his CPM um,

2495
02:00:56,080 --> 02:01:00,159
certification courses, so he's not here.

2496
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:02,880
But we do want to remind you about our

2497
02:01:00,159 --> 02:01:05,520
last town hall, which is next week on

2498
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:08,639
Thursday, September the 10th. It'll be

2499
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:11,840
held in Kingsland at 135 Grove

2500
02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:13,520
Boulevard. Um, I mean, I'm sorry, Gross

2501
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,719
Road. I don't know where Grove came

2502
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:18,080
from. [laughter]

2503
02:01:14,719 --> 02:01:20,800
Sorry. Gross Road uh at 6 PM. It's at

2504
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:23,360
the Resiliency Center and we would love

2505
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:25,440
to have as many of you come uh as you

2506
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:27,599
can. So, that's all I have.

2507
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:29,520
» Thank you, ma'am. [snorts]

2508
02:01:27,599 --> 02:01:31,599
Okay. Move on to the additional public

2509
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:34,719
comments section. This is the comments

2510
02:01:31,599 --> 02:01:35,280
from anything. Yes, I do have two people

2511
02:01:34,719 --> 02:01:35,760
registered.

2512
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:36,960
» I'm sorry.

2513
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,320
» I have two registered.

2514
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:42,840
» Okay. [snorts]

2515
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:42,840
» Um the first is Miss Shirley Cessums.

2516
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:58,800
Shirley Cesum, St. Mary's, Georgia. This

2517
02:01:55,679 --> 02:02:01,199
is Mike Wilson. We are the board. Mike

2518
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:03,920
Wilson and I, all the board members for

2519
02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:06,880
Swabber is not here tonight. We've been

2520
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,800
going through quite a bit of death and

2521
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:13,360
hitting our families here in the last

2522
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:16,800
few days. Um, but we are here in

2523
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:20,880
reference to requirement that we had to

2524
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:24,159
meet in order to fall under the county

2525
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:27,840
far as recreation is concerned. We met

2526
02:02:24,159 --> 02:02:31,520
with um attorney Ftonier on March the

2527
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:32,960
29th of this year and she gave she was

2528
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:35,679
recommending there were certain things

2529
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:38,560
that we had to meet in order for you all

2530
02:02:35,679 --> 02:02:40,560
to really to even consider and one of

2531
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:44,239
the main things that we had to do is get

2532
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:48,239
a lease um agreement. um there was no

2533
02:02:44,239 --> 02:02:50,400
lease that she had anything to use um to

2534
02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:53,599
even consider

2535
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:58,560
uh us coming up underneath this the um

2536
02:02:53,599 --> 02:03:01,119
the county for recreation. And I redid I

2537
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:05,520
left the lease.

2538
02:03:01,119 --> 02:03:09,760
I brought the um the deeds to for her to

2539
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:11,920
go over and so you all can consider

2540
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:16,000
um having the Sweetwater Branch

2541
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:19,199
Recreational Park fall under the county.

2542
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:22,080
As you know, we had already did

2543
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:23,520
presentations to you all before and we

2544
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:24,800
didn't feel like that, you know, you

2545
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:27,679
didn't want to go through all of that

2546
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:30,639
again. And here's the deeds that we had

2547
02:03:27,679 --> 02:03:32,639
to thank you deeds that we had to get

2548
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:34,560
straightened out for the ownership of

2549
02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:39,199
the park.

2550
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:43,199
And um we are asking you all to

2551
02:03:39,199 --> 02:03:45,119
consider and vote on this for

2552
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:47,440
the next meeting. Maybe we know it's not

2553
02:03:45,119 --> 02:03:51,360
going to happen today, but this is such

2554
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:54,960
a uh important part uh for the

2555
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:57,599
Sweetwater Branch part. Currently we

2556
02:03:54,960 --> 02:04:00,880
have we are paying for the lights there.

2557
02:03:57,599 --> 02:04:05,760
We pay for the and the water and we have

2558
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:08,480
had so many requirement for that park

2559
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:11,280
and I can't believe that you I didn't

2560
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:13,840
even know on the PSA that that park was

2561
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:16,400
utilized as much as it it is being

2562
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:20,080
trying to be utilized now. In the last

2563
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:23,599
month, I've had about 12 people call

2564
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:25,760
trying to book that park and uh within

2565
02:04:23,599 --> 02:04:27,520
this last month and it's every week,

2566
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:29,920
every weekend, every weekend, someone

2567
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:33,040
want to book that park. So, please

2568
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:35,199
consider this. This is um be beneficial

2569
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,800
for everybody in the county. As you all

2570
02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:39,840
know, Sweetwater Branch is like a

2571
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:43,760
historical park. It was given back to us

2572
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:45,760
back in um to the blacks back in 1959.

2573
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:48,880
and the board members back in then we

2574
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:52,320
believe was all ladies. But um as time

2575
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:56,000
has passed by that park has been a a

2576
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:58,800
very very important part to many of you

2577
02:04:56,000 --> 02:05:01,920
all in the county. Many some of you all

2578
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:06,960
pay play ball out there, football and

2579
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:09,679
baseball. So, um please consider

2580
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:13,679
taking this park

2581
02:05:09,679 --> 02:05:18,719
um and we will create a lease with you

2582
02:05:13,679 --> 02:05:20,320
all after then and uh

2583
02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:23,679
the booking and how everything is going

2584
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:25,920
to be handled. So, please consider um

2585
02:05:23,679 --> 02:05:29,760
bringing Sweetwater Branch underneath

2586
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:31,360
the county recreational parks. Okay. You

2587
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:33,280
have anything you want to say, Mike?

2588
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:34,159
That's it. Thank you.

2589
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:37,920
Thank you,

2590
02:05:34,159 --> 02:05:39,920
» Mr. Alan Geese. Gis, I apologize if I

2591
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:42,880
mispronounced your name.

2592
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:45,440
» You're the first one ever.

2593
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:48,560
» So, so it's unusual because I'm not here

2594
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:51,920
to yell at anybody or to uh challenge

2595
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:55,280
you or anything, but I'm here for

2596
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:57,679
citizens and for for the staff and of

2597
02:05:55,280 --> 02:06:01,679
course you commissioners. My name's Alan

2598
02:05:57,679 --> 02:06:07,679
Gezy, but the purpose that I'm here for

2599
02:06:01,679 --> 02:06:09,520
is for the uh Earthkeepers Alliance. You

2600
02:06:07,679 --> 02:06:12,800
might have heard of them. They're a

2601
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:14,639
small nonprofit group and that we want

2602
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:17,679
to protect this little slice of

2603
02:06:14,639 --> 02:06:22,000
paradise. And one of the ways to do that

2604
02:06:17,679 --> 02:06:26,080
is reducing what actually goes into our

2605
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:30,880
landfill. So, so a few years ago, we

2606
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:33,920
created this little booklet and uh and

2607
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:37,360
it's how to do recycling and proper

2608
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:40,320
disposal in Camden County, just Camden

2609
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:43,520
County. But it highlighted the fact that

2610
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:46,480
we have a lot of items

2611
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:50,800
that there's no place to properly

2612
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:54,480
dispose of them here in the county.

2613
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:57,040
So, our small group has also sponsored

2614
02:06:54,480 --> 02:07:00,239
tours. Uh, some of your staff have went

2615
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:03,040
to the recycling center down in

2616
02:07:00,239 --> 02:07:05,599
Jacksonville Republic Services. Anything

2617
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:08,560
that's recycled in the county from a

2618
02:07:05,599 --> 02:07:14,159
curbside actually goes to the recycling

2619
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:17,679
center in in uh Jacksonville. Uh we also

2620
02:07:14,159 --> 02:07:20,960
uh sponsor uh a collection of

2621
02:07:17,679 --> 02:07:23,840
electronics so that we have a semianual

2622
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:26,560
collection of uh electronics. We call

2623
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:30,159
that escrap where we collect those

2624
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:33,199
things so they don't go in the landfill.

2625
02:07:30,159 --> 02:07:37,599
So I want to ask you today I'm speaking

2626
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:41,040
about hazardous waste collection.

2627
02:07:37,599 --> 02:07:43,679
What do you do? What do each of you do

2628
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:46,560
with your household batteries? Your

2629
02:07:43,679 --> 02:07:49,199
little A and double A and what do you do

2630
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:51,760
with them? What do you do with your

2631
02:07:49,199 --> 02:07:55,199
lithium batteries, the little watch ones

2632
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:58,159
or the batteries from your power tools?

2633
02:07:55,199 --> 02:08:01,599
What do you do with wet paint? Propane

2634
02:07:58,159 --> 02:08:03,520
tanks, the little ones that you get. Uh

2635
02:08:01,599 --> 02:08:05,760
what do you do with your aerosol cans?

2636
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:09,199
You spray the bugs.

2637
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:12,000
Do you throw that in your trash?

2638
02:08:09,199 --> 02:08:14,480
probably if you're like every other

2639
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:17,599
citizen in the county,

2640
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:20,400
old style TVs, there's no place to

2641
02:08:17,599 --> 02:08:23,520
dispose of any of that in the county.

2642
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:26,800
I've worked with Mr. Pitman. Uh he knows

2643
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:29,599
about this issue. I'm here speaking

2644
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:31,440
about that. So,

2645
02:08:29,599 --> 02:08:33,199
but pushing this off to a future

2646
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:35,520
generation

2647
02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:38,320
isn't a great idea,

2648
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:41,280
but there's another cost. cost that

2649
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:43,840
maybe you're not aware of. State and

2650
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:45,679
federal law

2651
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:47,280
says that we can't put that in our

2652
02:08:45,679 --> 02:08:51,920
landfill.

2653
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:55,280
So, we may be subject to fines or or

2654
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:57,920
worse sanctions on our landfill. So, if

2655
02:08:55,280 --> 02:09:00,000
we don't do anything about this, we just

2656
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:03,119
let it go.

2657
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:06,239
Uh that's a problem. There's a secondary

2658
02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:08,960
cost. All this stuff going into the

2659
02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:12,079
landfill that shouldn't means the volume

2660
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:15,679
going into that landfill is more than

2661
02:09:12,079 --> 02:09:18,079
necessary. So, this is extending a

2662
02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:19,520
shortening the life of your landfill. I

2663
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:22,239
don't need to tell you how much a

2664
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:24,000
landfill is going to cost us 30 years

2665
02:09:22,239 --> 02:09:28,079
down the road, but the difference

2666
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:30,719
between 30 years and 35 years is

2667
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:33,280
significant in a rural county like

2668
02:09:30,719 --> 02:09:37,199
Camden. It's going to be a big

2669
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:40,719
difference. So what I'm asking you to do

2670
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:43,440
and what I'm saying I and our group and

2671
02:09:40,719 --> 02:09:47,760
some of our members are here is to

2672
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:50,800
consider putting in a collection point

2673
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:53,199
for these. There are several contractors

2674
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:58,480
that collect different types of things.

2675
02:09:53,199 --> 02:10:01,520
Mr. Pitman is working on a grant to get

2676
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:03,440
that started. But I say to you, I know

2677
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:05,199
that we just went through that budget

2678
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:07,520
period. So this is for you to be

2679
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:11,760
thinking about and discussing before the

2680
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:15,760
next budget hearing to say what are we

2681
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:19,360
doing in the future to create this and

2682
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:22,079
sustain it. Uh

2683
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:25,960
subject to your questions,

2684
02:10:22,079 --> 02:10:25,960
I don't have anything else.

2685
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:31,880
» Thanks for the input.

2686
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,880
» Okay. Anybody

2687
02:10:32,079 --> 02:10:38,320
else?

2688
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:40,400
Nobody else. Uh, down to uh,

2689
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:43,400
commissioner comments. Anybody have any

2690
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:43,400
comments?

2691
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:48,560
» All I wanted to say is I'm freezing to

2692
02:10:47,119 --> 02:10:49,920
death. [laughter]

2693
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:51,599
» Well, then I'll make this real quick.

2694
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:53,440
» I'll second that motion.

2695
02:10:51,599 --> 02:10:55,679
» I'll make this real quick. I just wanted

2696
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,520
to recognize uh, Miss Claire who works

2697
02:10:55,679 --> 02:10:59,520
with us here. Uh she gave the

2698
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:01,360
presentation today for the proclamation

2699
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:04,320
um recognizing September as suicide

2700
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:10,159
prevention month. Uh she represents the

2701
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:12,079
county on the Camden Family Connection.

2702
02:11:10,159 --> 02:11:13,679
» Family connection Camden organization

2703
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:15,119
which um kind of brings all those

2704
02:11:13,679 --> 02:11:16,639
nonprofit and social services

2705
02:11:15,119 --> 02:11:18,480
organizations together. One of those

2706
02:11:16,639 --> 02:11:20,079
being the suicide prevention

2707
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,840
organization. I just don't think you get

2708
02:11:20,079 --> 02:11:25,639
enough credit for what you do in that

2709
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:25,639
space. So thank you Claire.

2710
02:11:28,239 --> 02:11:31,920
Nothing else.

2711
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:33,520
Okay. Entertain a motion to adjourn the

2712
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:35,679
regular meeting and convene the

2713
02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:37,760
executive session to discuss real estate

2714
02:11:35,679 --> 02:11:39,440
personnel and potential litigation.

2715
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:43,239
» So moved. Second.

2716
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:43,239
» All in favor? probably.

2717
02:41:29,600 --> 02:41:33,040
to adjourn the executive session and

2718
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:35,200
reconvene the regular meeting.

2719
02:41:33,040 --> 02:41:36,880
» Make a motion to adjourn the executive

2720
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:38,080
session and reconvene the regular

2721
02:41:36,880 --> 02:41:39,439
meeting. Mr. Chairman,

2722
02:41:38,080 --> 02:41:41,600
» Second.

2723
02:41:39,439 --> 02:41:44,560
» Got a motion second. All in favor?

2724
02:41:41,600 --> 02:41:47,600
Motion carries. Okay. We have two action

2725
02:41:44,560 --> 02:41:49,840
items relative to the executive session.

2726
02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:51,920
And item number one is

2727
02:41:49,840 --> 02:41:53,600
» Uh Mr. Chairman, I move to approve the

2728
02:41:51,920 --> 02:41:55,600
resolution and contract for

2729
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:57,840
representation and fee agreement

2730
02:41:55,600 --> 02:41:59,760
regarding fire apparatus antitrust

2731
02:41:57,840 --> 02:42:01,600
litigation.

2732
02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:04,240
» I'll second.

2733
02:42:01,600 --> 02:42:07,840
We have a motion and a second. All in

2734
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:09,920
favor? Motion carries. Action item

2735
02:42:07,840 --> 02:42:11,760
number two is the uh I make a motion for

2736
02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:13,600
the approval of professional services

2737
02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:17,800
agreement for the retaining of legal

2738
02:42:13,600 --> 02:42:17,800
services for the county attorney.

2739
02:42:17,920 --> 02:42:21,760
Second.

2740
02:42:19,359 --> 02:42:23,760
» We have a motion in a second. All in

2741
02:42:21,760 --> 02:42:27,240
favor?

2742
02:42:23,760 --> 02:42:27,240
Motion carries.

2743
02:42:27,359 --> 02:42:32,000
» Uh I'm going to abstain.

2744
02:42:28,960 --> 02:42:35,000
» We have uh three and Cody abstained.

2745
02:42:32,000 --> 02:42:35,000
Okay.

2746
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:40,160
All righty.

2747
02:42:37,359 --> 02:42:42,080
Seeing nothing else. Motion to adjurnn.

2748
02:42:40,160 --> 02:42:44,479
» So moved. Second.

2749
02:42:42,080 --> 02:42:47,439
» All in favor.

2750
02:42:44,479 --> 02:42:47,439
Thank y'all.