1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,960 uh 605. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,200 But 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,759 >> have the minutes recognized that 4 00:00:07,759 --> 00:00:10,480 Kerianne was duly elected appropriately 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,480 by the voters at the time and that 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,679 subsequent acts have created this 7 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:18,160 incompatibility with office and then you 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,279 can accept her. It's 9 00:00:19,279 --> 00:00:22,720 >> taking attendance. We have Brian. No. 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,800 John, yes. Dane Collins, no. Dlinsky 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,199 is remote. 12 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:32,709 S is here. 13 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:38,239 No, Stone. Yes. Yes. And Harry 14 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:41,920 Sandel is a yes. 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,840 One, two, three, four, five. 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,830 Six. 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,399 » Who's that? 18 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:51,760 >> This is Jim Swift. 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,680 >> Yeah. Tell him to uh give us call back 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,079 and five minutes. 21 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:59,760 >> We'll call him. Hello, Jim. 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,039 All right. So, we have a call. 23 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:02,559 >> We're just getting we're just getting 24 00:01:02,559 --> 00:01:04,000 started with the meeting. We got a few 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,360 things to take care of and then when 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,280 it's your when we get to the candidates, 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,320 I'll give you a call right back. 28 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,320 >> Okay. Yeah, sure. Thank you. 29 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,320 >> Um, 30 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:16,000 first order of business is to approve 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,360 the minutes from January 31. 32 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,640 I'm going to take you under other 33 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,119 business. 34 00:01:23,119 --> 00:01:25,150 Okay. 35 00:01:25,150 --> 00:01:25,520 >> [laughter] 36 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,479 >> Hey, approve minutes. January 31. 37 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:34,799 Got a motion to accept minutes. 38 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:36,320 >> Second. 39 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,310 >> Any comments? 40 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:41,600 All those in favor? 41 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,400 >> Do a roll call. 42 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,640 >> Oh, I got Oh, we got Mr. Duplinsky. 43 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Sorry. Remote. So, 44 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,079 >> if you agree that um we're going to have 45 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:54,159 uh remote to u 46 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:59,670 allow remote members to vote. 47 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,920 » Well, they they can vote anyway. You 48 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,159 just have to do a roll call vote, 49 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:04,640 >> right? 50 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,759 >> All right. So, then we're going to do 51 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:09,119 we're just going to do a roll call on 52 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:10,239 all of our votes tonight. 53 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:10,640 >> Yes. 54 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:12,560 >> Okay. 55 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,800 >> All right. This is on the minutes. Mr. 56 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Berseron. 57 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,120 >> Yes. 58 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,959 >> Mr. Duplinsky. 59 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:19,680 >> Yes. 60 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,720 >> Thank you. Sal. Yes. Mr. Reese. 61 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,239 >> Yes. 62 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:25,280 >> Mr. Stone. 63 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,000 >> Yes. 64 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,879 >> Sand Del. 65 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:27,440 >> Yes. 66 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,319 >> Thank you. Okay. Next door to 67 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:33,120 businesses. Uh, election of officers. We 68 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,640 have three officers. We have a 69 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,319 president. 70 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:38,720 We have a vice or we have a chair. 71 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Excuse me. We have a vice chair. 72 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,390 And we have a secretary. 73 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,879 First we'll replace the current version 74 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:51,360 of that which is Persia 75 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Reese 76 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Persia. Sorry 77 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,400 >> and Reese. 78 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Okay. Accept any motions for the chair. 79 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,360 Anybody want to 80 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,519 >> I move the existing slate. 81 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:07,040 >> You move the entire slate. 82 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:07,760 >> Right. 83 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,440 >> Do I have a second on that? 84 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,159 >> Yes. Okay. Any discussion on that? 85 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:16,640 All those in favor 86 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,760 roll call. Excuse me. Okay. John, 87 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,800 >> yes. 88 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,879 Tom, 89 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:24,560 >> yes. 90 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,319 >> Percy, yes. Reese, 91 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:27,040 >> yes. 92 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,239 Stone, 93 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:28,720 >> yes. 94 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,680 >> Dandel, 95 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,159 >> yes. 96 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,319 >> Thank you very much. We have a new set 97 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:34,799 of 98 00:03:34,799 --> 00:03:37,280 next order of business. Representative 99 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,400 to the CIP committee last year was 100 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,519 Persia. have any 101 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:44,959 nominations for that? Anybody? 102 00:03:44,959 --> 00:03:49,830 >> I nominate Percy. 103 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 » All right. Any discussion about that? 104 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,492 >> Great job. Thank you. Keep it up. 105 00:03:54,492 --> 00:03:54,560 [clears throat] 106 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,640 >> Thank you. Okay. Appreciate that, Billy. 107 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,439 I do have um All right. Roll call on 108 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:00,720 that. Mr. Berseron, 109 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,200 >> yes. 110 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,720 >> Mr. Duplinsky, 111 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,760 >> yes. 112 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,680 >> Percy abstains. Reese? 113 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,360 >> Yes. 114 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,000 >> Stone? 115 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,560 >> Yes. 116 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,439 >> Sandell? 117 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:10,799 >> Yep. 118 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:13,120 Okay. 119 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Uh, just generally can meeting our 120 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,639 meeting schedules. Can we all do 121 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:21,519 Wednesdays again? That okay? I I Well, 122 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:22,560 >> Shane, it's not a 123 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,840 >> I have a conflict on this. 124 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,280 >> Well, no, we finished the year on 125 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:25,919 Wednesdays. 126 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:26,400 >> Did you? 127 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,240 >> Yes, we did. 128 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,800 >> Not in my world. [laughter] 129 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,320 >> First Wednesday of the month, I have a 130 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,680 conflict. 131 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240 >> Okay. So, let's do the second and the 132 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,240 fourth. 133 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,160 How's that? That works for you. That 134 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,360 works for me. 135 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,199 >> Anybody have any problems with the 136 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:45,680 second and fourth Wednesday of the month 137 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,520 when we get around to starting them 138 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,520 sometime in God knows when? [laughter] 139 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,199 >> September, right? 140 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:53,440 >> Way probably, you know, August at least. 141 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Maybe September. Aren't you going to be 142 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,028 living in town by now? 143 00:04:58,028 --> 00:04:59,199 [laughter] 144 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:00,800 >> I already bought all the vacant land 145 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,160 around the lake. So, 146 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,840 >> he knows that there's an influx of 147 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,560 people. All right. So 148 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,320 all right that is okay. Is that okay 149 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,680 everybody with that everybody? All 150 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,670 right. 151 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,560 » So same as the board. 152 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,240 >> Yeah. Yes. 153 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,840 >> Not that it matters but it's okay with 154 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:28,070 me by the way. [laughter] 155 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,919 » Come. You're paid. 156 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:31,919 >> No conflict. You be 157 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:33,520 >> you are invaluable. 158 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,120 >> I'm a scrier. We are nothing. 159 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,960 >> Exactly. [laughter] Before we do that, 160 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,280 do we know if Sadi is doing anything 161 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,600 whiteboard wise on second important? 162 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,199 >> That's Tuesday. I don't know if there's 163 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:45,199 other stuff. The meetings are Tuesdays. 164 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:47,360 >> The people who are absent, they tell us 165 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,800 we got a problem. In which case, we got 166 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,759 to reconsider. 167 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:51,919 >> Yeah, we can reconsider. Get a answer. 168 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:54,320 But for now, let's just put that down, 169 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,199 not hard stone. 170 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,120 >> Exactly. Yeah. 171 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,240 >> Okay. 172 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,440 >> Everything we do, we can do. 173 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,800 >> Okay. The uh next order of business is 174 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,039 uh try to fill the open 175 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:13,360 position that we have coming up. 176 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,720 >> Maybe we should first have an open 177 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,390 position. I guess 178 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,800 do you have something to say to us? 179 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,319 >> I need to resign from the budget 180 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:23,120 committee. 181 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,800 >> Oh, 182 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,360 okay. And the reason for that would be 183 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,800 personal 184 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,029 >> personal 185 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:36,000 Well, she's incompatible with ser as a 186 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,360 function of statute. 187 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,080 >> She's she now has a job as the finance 188 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,840 director of the town. So, I get that 189 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:46,080 she's ineligible in that context. 190 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,520 All right. So, we will have to 191 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,400 gracefully accept your resignation. 192 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Sorry to hear that out. Jack. 193 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,560 Yes. Next, we have 194 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,520 candidates. Any are there any candidates 195 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,400 to be uh considered here? We have one uh 196 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,199 Mr. Swift. 197 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:08,560 Ellie, are you going to be in the 198 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,080 >> Yeah, but I was just wondering, do you 199 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,400 need to do your redo your quorum thing 200 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,150 first? 201 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,520 » No. No. Okay. All right. 202 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,039 >> We open the meeting with the quorum and 203 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:22,400 >> Okay. All right. That's fine. Okay. 204 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,039 >> Walked out. 205 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:24,880 >> No. A couple people asked me to put my 206 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,120 name in. So, I don't know if you want me 207 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,160 or not. But, 208 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,720 >> well, I think 209 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,479 >> if you if you don't want me to tell you 210 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:36,720 what to do, then you don't want me 211 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,479 because I have a knowit all, you know, 212 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:40,560 and I do know the law. So, but nobody 213 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,560 else here has any training but me as far 214 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,120 as I know except for Jack. 215 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,000 >> Yeah. 216 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 >> So, if you want me to go through, I can 217 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,080 tell you my whole life story. My 218 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,360 >> You don't need your life story. I think 219 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,039 we you you've already given us a really 220 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:55,039 good reason why we would want you on the 221 00:07:55,039 --> 00:07:56,240 committee. 222 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,160 >> Thank you. Is there anything else you 223 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,879 would like to say? 224 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,039 >> I'll just say I'm a I'm a nonpracticing 225 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:04,560 CPA. I have a doctorate in finance, 226 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,080 economics, and math. I have 21 years of 227 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,319 experience on the budget committee of 228 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:11,680 the town budget committee. I have eight 229 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,360 years experience on the school budget 230 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,199 committee and more than eight years as 231 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:18,080 cemetery trustee. 232 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,080 So, 233 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,840 >> I've worked as a college professor and a 234 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,240 bunch of other things. 235 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,720 >> Impressive. Anybody have any questions 236 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,310 for Miss Davis? 237 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,760 All right. We do have one other 238 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,479 candidate. Um, but before we get him, 239 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:39,440 let me uh read his uh [clears throat] 240 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,599 who he is. 241 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:45,440 Got a blur for him. 242 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,399 name is James Smith. He lives on N 243 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:51,680 Swift. He lives on 94 Peninsula Road. 244 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,839 And 245 00:08:53,839 --> 00:08:56,320 he's a he's been an attorney with the 246 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,000 law firm of Langro Berry Wool 247 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,399 of Mberry in Burlington, Vermont for the 248 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:04,720 last 44 years. His practice includes 249 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,480 litigation, estate planning, real 250 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,279 estate, and business transactions. 251 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:10,959 He served as managing partner of the 252 00:09:10,959 --> 00:09:13,279 firm for 20 years. He's served on 253 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:14,959 numerous boards of charitable 254 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:18,320 organizations including Henry S Museum, 255 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,279 middlebury Amateur Hockey Association, 256 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:24,560 Mbury Cemetery Association, Addison 257 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,800 County United Way, Arrow Streets Arts 258 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,640 LLC, Milbury Middlebury Community House, 259 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,279 Congregation Church of Mbury, North 260 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:36,880 Chapel Universalist Society, and various 261 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,720 others. He's been a permanent resident 262 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,760 of can since April of 25 and is retiring 263 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,200 from his firm this summer. 264 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,800 So that's gentleman. 265 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,560 >> What's his name again, please? 266 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:53,040 >> James W. Swift and the firm of Langrock 267 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,959 Berry and Middlebury 268 00:09:54,959 --> 00:09:57,519 >> and the position 269 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,200 that we're talking about here. 270 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,360 >> Oh, this is the uh to replace the 271 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,040 recently resigned uh position position. 272 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,560 >> Pleasure committee member. budget 273 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:15,350 committee memb 274 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,519 we have the existing budget committee 275 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:20,800 has is has the authority to appoint 276 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,440 somebody and then they serve until the 277 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,839 next town meeting they just serve until 278 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:27,680 the balance of the year till the next 279 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:28,399 meeting 280 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,117 >> and then they would have to have 281 00:10:30,117 --> 00:10:31,440 [clears throat] to be elected 282 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,320 >> do any of us know this gentleman 283 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,200 >> yes 284 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,440 >> I think Tom knows. I I know him a little 285 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,839 bit, but Tom knows him the most. 286 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:40,480 >> Yeah. [clears throat] 287 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,399 >> Hey, Ellie, I have a question for you. 288 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:44,240 After the uh we interview this 289 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,600 gentleman, would you be willing to leave 290 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,760 the room so we can discuss it without 291 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,560 you in the room? 292 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,640 >> No, we have to do it in public. 293 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,760 >> Well, I don't have to. Um I believe that 294 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,360 uh 295 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,440 I believe you can help me out with this 296 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,880 because you know all the rules. 297 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,240 >> Yeah. There's something called 91-8.3 298 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,279 non-public sessions and it applies to 299 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:07,839 all public bodies. 300 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:10,000 Um says you shall not meet except for 301 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,079 one of the purposes in p in non-public 302 00:11:12,079 --> 00:11:14,720 session except for one of the purposes 303 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,079 set out in paragraph two. One of those items is item C. matters 304 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:21,760 which if discussed in public would 305 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,079 likely affect adversely the reputation 306 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:26,720 of any person other than member of the 307 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,279 public body itself unless such person 308 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:31,920 requests an open meeting. 309 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,279 >> I'm requesting an open meeting. 310 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,600 >> Okay, that's fine. We can do that. 311 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,079 >> But I'm already an elected official. So 312 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:38,800 >> I'm sorry. 313 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,720 >> I said I'm already an elected official. 314 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,320 So I think whatever I do should be 315 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:42,800 public. 316 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,360 >> That's fine. That's why I'm asking. We 317 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,880 can't do it. We have the authority. 318 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,480 >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 319 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,320 >> Okay. I guess I've never had it done 320 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,120 that way. 321 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,079 >> I know, but I did my homework. 322 00:11:54,079 --> 00:11:55,760 >> Okay. 323 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,160 All right. So, let's get uh Mr. 324 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Swift on the phone and see what he's got 325 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:10,629 to say. 326 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,279 » Here is do the best. I got it out as 327 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:15,360 loud as I can. Okay. I'll put on 328 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 speaker. Yeah. Good idea. 329 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Hi, this is Jim. 330 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,519 >> Hi, Jim. It's Michael Reese here. 331 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:22,480 >> Hey, Michael. 332 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,639 >> Okay, so um I guess we're gonna have You 333 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,160 can't get on team, so we're gonna we'll 334 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 do it this way as best we can. Uh S, our 335 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,279 chairperson, just read uh your bio for 336 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:32,399 everybody. 337 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:33,279 >> Yep. 338 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:36,240 >> And we have uh five members. We have a 339 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,120 few absentes absences to today, but we 340 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,279 have five members of the board here and 341 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:43,440 one other candidate also in the room who 342 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,120 has been on the budget committee before, 343 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,360 Kelly Davis. She's in the room also 344 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,720 along with the town the town 345 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,800 administrator and the finance man. 346 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,279 >> Y 347 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:54,000 >> I don't know. Can everybody hear? 348 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,519 >> Oh, you're right. And of course our 349 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:58,629 minist 350 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:00,160 I'm just going to put the phone down and 351 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,680 I guess we'll invite him to 352 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:04,320 >> Yeah. Just if you just like to address 353 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,320 the group and and you know tell us a 354 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,680 little about a little bit more about 355 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,040 yourself and why you're interested in 356 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,600 the position. All right. Thank you. 357 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,200 >> Sure. Sure. Well, uh, Chip Swift. Um, 358 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,079 I'm a lawyer. Uh, been practicing in 359 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:22,000 Vermont for 42 years and, uh, retiring 360 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,480 at, uh, the end of June. Uh, but, uh, 361 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Diane and I, uh, my wife moved to, uh, 362 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:36,079 Kanan about a year ago in April. And um 363 00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:38,800 uh you know I'm interested in doing my 364 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,519 civic duty of of uh trying to 365 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,880 participate in local government and uh 366 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,360 bring whatever knowledge I have from all 367 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:54,479 the various things that I've done um to to help the town. um you know 368 00:13:54,479 --> 00:13:55,839 [snorts] the things that I've done is 369 00:13:55,839 --> 00:14:01,600 basically uh managing a 24 attorney 370 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,480 uh 60 employee um law firm for 20 years 371 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,680 and u you know fortunately have handed 372 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,320 off the torch on that been involved in 373 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,680 lots of uh various boards 374 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:19,680 um Madison County United Way etc etc so 375 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,880 I I'm thinking that uh this be a good 376 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,160 fit for me as I eased my retirement. So 377 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,680 that's basically my thoughts. 378 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,880 >> Okay. Anybody have any questions for Mr. 379 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,790 Swift? 380 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,639 » So you went you went through the list of 381 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:43,519 his experience items. Yeah. 382 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:45,920 >> And there were several municipal things 383 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,320 there. Could you repeat the municipal 384 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,550 items or maybe maybe Jim can 385 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,839 » government? But I have been um involved 386 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:00,880 in municipal light things including the 387 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,240 uh Addison County United Way which uh 388 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,320 you know for 15 years I was on their 389 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:12,800 board uh dealing with uh you know how the money is raised and then 390 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,440 dispersed and uh evaluating uh proposals 391 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,279 for dispersement and uh so so I think 392 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:22,959 that's valuable for the budget 393 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:27,440 committee. Um, I also have been 394 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,680 I god forbid but but uh sort of the 395 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,839 chief financial officer for the Mbury 396 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:38,320 Cemetery Association where we have a um 397 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,160 you know endemic of over $750,000 398 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,959 dealing with the u expenses and and uh 399 00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:49,680 proposals [snorts] for that. Um so 400 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 things like that is is what I've I've 401 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 been involved in as well as um of course 402 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,079 uh being managing partner of a firm of 403 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:03,120 you know multi-million dollar budget 404 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,120 know having to deal with contractors and 405 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,320 it and all that stuff. [snorts] Um, so 406 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,320 you know, I've been involved in 407 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,160 budgeting over over uh many of the 408 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,199 facets of of my career. 409 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:21,120 >> Um, I do have another question for you, 410 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Jim. Um, we uh we will be meeting on 411 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,759 Wednesdays, the second and fourth 412 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:29,120 Wednesdays of the month at 6:00 PM here 413 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,720 in town. Um, 414 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,639 >> starting 415 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:37,040 end of June is my official retirement 416 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,600 date. 417 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,040 >> Yeah. Um but uh we we will start meeting 418 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,360 somewhere around the middle of September 419 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,079 official, you know, meetings and that 420 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:49,120 will run um all the way through the end 421 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,759 of January. 422 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:55,040 Um so will you be available at those 423 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,720 times and dates that we're going to be 424 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,680 meeting efficiently enough to be able to 425 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,519 participate effectively? 426 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:02,320 >> Yeah. 427 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,799 >> Yes. Like I said, um I'll be retiring 428 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:07,199 and you know, right now I'm in Mbury. I 429 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:10,240 work three days a week in Middbury and 430 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:16,559 uh Mondays and Fridays remotely from Kanan. Uh but at the end of June, I 431 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:19,600 will be uh stepping down from the firm 432 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 and uh full-time in Kanan. So yeah, 433 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,360 that's good. 434 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:26,079 >> Okay. All right. 435 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,319 Any other 436 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:30,960 question? Sure. For us, I guess are are 437 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,240 we able to increase the number from 10 438 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,880 to something else? Not without you know 439 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,280 some other kind of 440 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,640 >> why would birth would you want to do 441 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,919 that 442 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:44,799 >> just if we wanted 11 or 12 on the budget 443 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:45,760 that's 444 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,280 >> you have nine now 445 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,520 >> nice to have an odd number but I think 446 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,480 nine's quite 447 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,559 >> well the town statute calls for 10 is 448 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:53,440 that correct Ellie 449 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:53,760 >> really 450 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,559 >> no it well nine it calls for nine at 451 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,720 large number selected numbers and then 452 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,760 the selectment choose a representative 453 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,000 >> it's just the 454 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:04,880 >> state doesn't count 455 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,880 >> just like all the other public bodies to 456 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,080 pick a person that they can't serve then 457 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,760 they can pick somebody else to take 458 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,480 their place. 459 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,240 >> Was that a warrant article? 460 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,480 >> No, that's in the law. 461 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,360 >> Stat 462 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,600 reads 32 again, John. 463 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,039 >> Okay. [laughter] 464 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:25,120 >> Because some towns have less, but it's 465 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,440 usually a multiple of three. So like 466 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,360 some towns have three, some towns have 467 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:32,080 six. Some towns have only an advisory 468 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,840 committee. In that case, I think you can 469 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,520 do whatever you want. 470 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:41,430 >> But 471 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,799 all right. Anything else? 472 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,039 Uh, okay. So, Jim, you're welcome to 473 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:48,559 stay on the line if you like. We're 474 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:50,960 going to be discussing voting on this in 475 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,440 a few seconds here. 476 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,280 >> Okay. 477 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,870 >> So, anybody have any thoughts? 478 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,559 We kind of have a Sophie's choice here 479 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,799 because we [laughter] we have I would 480 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,360 say very capable candidate on the phone 481 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,360 and we have a very capable candidate 482 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,600 that has served in the past in 483 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,679 >> and that's why I was asking about 11 484 00:19:13,679 --> 00:19:15,200 because it would be nice to have them 485 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,799 both 486 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,240 >> because I don't think there's a bad 487 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,328 choice here at all. Yeah. 488 00:19:21,328 --> 00:19:24,710 [clears throat] 489 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,600 » Nope. 490 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,280 >> Um, 491 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,880 I liked Jim's resume and I liked what he 492 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,160 had to say and I think 493 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,840 fresh face would be advantageous. Fresh 494 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,679 first participant 495 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:43,280 sort of expanding the the universe of of 496 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,840 uh activist 497 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,160 uh residents in town. 498 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Tom, you got something you want to say? 499 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,960 Anything? 500 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,400 >> Yeah. Uh, so I I basically support uh 501 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Jim. I've known him actually for more 502 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,840 over three years and interacting with 503 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,840 him with our community over on Goosebond 504 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,640 and I, you know, uh, have we've 505 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,840 interacted and I know his credentials. 506 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,710 So I I'm supporting I would support Jim. 507 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Yeah. Can I say one other thing is I 508 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,520 think 509 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,400 this is too male dominated. You have no 510 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,510 elected female members. 511 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,320 » Okay. We had one she had one. She 512 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,080 resigned. 513 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,760 Doesn't want to hang out with us. You 514 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,964 don't know why you do, but that's 515 00:20:37,964 --> 00:20:40,230 [laughter] 516 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000 » But John, you had something 517 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,799 >> want to say something? 518 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:46,320 >> Yeah. Uh just reading the laws RSA 3215. 519 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Yep. 520 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600 >> Budget committee committee cons shall 521 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,960 consist of three to 12 members at large 522 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,280 who may be elected or appointed by the 523 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,000 moderator. 524 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,559 >> Oh, 525 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:58,960 >> as a town or district uh adopting the 526 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,360 provision of this subdivision shall by 527 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:05,120 vote determined. So it says it can be 528 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,919 greater than what we have now, but the 529 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:09,280 town meeting has to do it. 530 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,600 >> Oh, the town meeting. So it said it says 531 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,190 the uh 532 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,240 as the town or district adopting the the 533 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,799 provision of this subdivision shall vote 534 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:22,880 to 535 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,510 shall vote determined. 536 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,919 » Can you have an alternate? 537 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,000 >> You have an alternate John? You know 538 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,390 >> I'm reading. 539 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,080 » We did that. We've done that on the 540 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,640 cemetery trust building. 541 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,480 I' I've never seen that. Means we should 542 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480 have had a warrant article to pick the 543 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,360 number. 544 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:45,679 >> Yeah. 545 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:47,280 >> And I've never seen that. 546 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,960 >> You mean the budget committee had to 547 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,320 have a warrant article to pick the 548 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:50,720 number? 549 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,039 >> Yeah. 550 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:53,280 >> Well, that would have been a 1948. 551 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:53,600 >> Yeah. 552 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,280 >> Were you around in 1948? 553 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,440 >> No. 554 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,880 You probably didn't see it 555 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,840 >> before I started the minutes. 556 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,200 >> We've always had that many. All right. 557 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,480 >> You can't fix that now. 558 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,355 >> We can't fix that now. Right. 559 00:22:08,355 --> 00:22:10,320 [clears throat] 560 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:10,960 So, 561 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,880 >> I don't see any mention of all things. 562 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,120 >> Okay. 563 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,919 All right. Any other comments, thoughts, 564 00:22:17,919 --> 00:22:22,630 quips, or quotes? 565 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,880 » Well, I hope whatever happens that the 566 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,120 other candidate would attend continue to 567 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,120 attend budget committee meetings and you 568 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,840 know, I mean, in this particular case, 569 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,520 Ellie comes to the meetings and she's 570 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,480 been a big help. 571 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,600 >> In a way, it's almost a a way to expand 572 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,960 the body without expanding the body. 573 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,960 >> Well, I haven't been. I only went to one 574 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,919 this year or two. 575 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:50,960 I went to the public hearing. 576 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,000 >> Move the question. 577 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,360 >> Okay, let's move the question. Jack 578 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,799 wants to go home. Go ahead. You have 579 00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:56,000 something else you want to say? 580 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,470 >> Just let's go. 581 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,320 » Let's go. Says Mr. Stone. He's not 582 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,400 dealing well. All right. Let's take a 583 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960 vote on this. Uh Mr. Berseron, 584 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,400 >> vote for Ellie. Ellie, 585 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,559 Mr. Duplinsky, 586 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:16,230 >> Jim Swift, 587 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,240 » Mr. Reese, I'm gonna say Jim Swift, but 588 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,789 I don't want Ellie to be mad at me, but 589 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:27,280 » Jim Swift. 590 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,440 >> I can't state how important you are to 591 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,360 the group. I'm gonna vote for Ellie, but 592 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:35,600 that's a three to two for Mr. Swift. 593 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Well, when I talked to Gold Sale, Mr. 594 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Swift, 595 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,320 >> you're now a member of uh I'm sorry. 596 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,000 Just give me one second. Mr. You've been 597 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,520 appointed to the budget committee 598 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000 training, Mr. Swift. 599 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,360 >> Okay, that's great. 600 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,360 >> All right. And uh what I need you to do 601 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:53,039 is I need you to send me your email. 602 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:54,400 >> I can I will 603 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:00,390 >> um And my email is S Perc 604 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,430 go 605 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,559 » spelled like it sounds. 606 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,120 >> Yeah. s p 607 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:12,549 i aat.net. 608 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:14,799 » But Mike Reese will send it to you. 609 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,391 >> Mike, 610 00:24:17,391 --> 00:24:17,760 [laughter] 611 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,960 >> he's on my email. 612 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,039 >> Ellie, thank you so much. 613 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:22,559 >> I forgot what I was going to say now. 614 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:25,600 Oh, I because I for both you and Mike. 615 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,400 It's nobody else, so I couldn't probably 616 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,400 wouldn't have bogged it, but um that's 617 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,159 it. That's all I wanted to say. Thank 618 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:34,880 you. 619 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,640 Okay. [clears throat] Um, okay. Any 620 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,640 other business? 621 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,080 We have any other business? 622 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,400 >> I I just wanted to ask um we did last 623 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,080 year start on September 18th was so 624 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,480 probably that same uh you're thinking 625 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:50,960 we'll be 626 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,440 >> Well, I need to sit with Jack. Uh we we 627 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,400 don't know whether we will have a 628 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,360 permanent town man town administrator in 629 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,880 place by then. We don't know what's 630 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,679 going to go on. 631 00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:02,480 >> Okay. uh act, you know, uh but I will be 632 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,640 sitting down with Jack and uh we'll 633 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,159 start to work out a schedule of when 634 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,159 people can show up and carry in as well 635 00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:10,720 and figure out what she'll be ready to, 636 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,480 you know, do other little parts and 637 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,000 pieces, 638 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,400 >> but you know, because 639 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,760 >> I I might suggest you you you um we can 640 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,582 talk about it. 641 00:25:21,582 --> 00:25:22,240 >> [clears throat] 642 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,360 >> It might be good to start earlier in the year and and give enough time for 643 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,799 the department heads to come in and and 644 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,360 expend my my recollection from a few 645 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,679 years ago got pretty crowded 646 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:39,039 schedulewise wise. 647 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,279 >> Well, we did pretty well last year. We 648 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,919 got through it pretty well. I think the 649 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:45,840 CIP committee wants to get going 650 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,320 earlier. 651 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,440 >> Okay, that's fine, too. 652 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,720 >> Right. And that'll bring the department 653 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440 heads in for their capital requirements. 654 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Right. 655 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,159 >> Right. 656 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,000 >> And then, you know, whenever you guys 657 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,600 are ready, we can 658 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,279 >> I mean, we're ready to start. It's 659 00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,120 really a question of when the department 660 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,520 heads have all their 661 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,279 >> focus on perhaps getting information out 662 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,559 to you sooner. 663 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:07,360 >> I like the 664 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,440 >> I'm happy to make it less crowded. Yeah. 665 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,279 >> So, we can do shorter meetings, 666 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:11,840 >> right? 667 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,679 >> You know, I'm happy to do that, Ellie. 668 00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:15,360 Well, I just look at the calendar 669 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,279 because of you switching to second and 670 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:18,640 fourth. You're actually like a week 671 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,279 ahead of 672 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:19,760 >> Yeah. 673 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,600 >> So, it's the 10th and the TW. You have 674 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,520 two meetings. 675 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,640 >> The 10th and the 24th is enough. 676 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,559 >> Yeah. We'll we'll we'll work it out. 677 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,159 >> Okay. Well, I have to come in because 678 00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,880 I'm on the cemetery trustee. So, we'll 679 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,360 have to come in, too. So, I kind of I'm 680 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,200 sorry. It would be the 9th and the 23rd. 681 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Sorry. 682 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240 >> That's all right. Thank you. All right. 683 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,159 So, yeah, we'll do that. Any other 684 00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:45,039 business? I do have one thing that I do 685 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,799 want to talk about quickly and then and 686 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,080 just so you can think start thinking 687 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,960 about it. Um last year at the um public 688 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,360 session of the budget committee, we had 689 00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:00,480 one person show up. We had two um 690 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,080 warrants fail 691 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,720 requirement for the funding of police 692 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440 cruisers and stuff [snorts] and uh the 693 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,919 town government buildings. 694 00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:15,279 And I think part of that um was a lack 695 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,480 of information and education to you know 696 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,320 the town basically about what it's 697 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720 about. So, I would like us to start to 698 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,559 think about whether or not I mean I'll 699 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,520 do it myself if I have to, but um I 700 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,200 would like to go out and go out and 701 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,559 after we've completed the uh budget have a proposed budget and 702 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,440 Lawrence, I would like to some of the 703 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,600 groups in town and the Lions Club and 704 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120 any other ones that have, you know, 705 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:44,799 sufficient enough people that we can 706 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:46,960 visit with and talk to them about budget 707 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,720 because if we wait for them to come to 708 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,880 us, they're not going to come to us. 709 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,799 So, I would like to, you know, see if we 710 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,279 can start to go out and talk to people 711 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,399 about what the budget is and why it is 712 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:00,159 what it is and why we're recommending 713 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:02,000 what we're recommending. So, just put 714 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320 that in the back of your heads. 715 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,919 I'll see if we can get somebody on. Um, 716 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:09,679 any other 717 00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:12,320 >> the other thing is to consider moving 718 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,320 things from warrant articles into the 719 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,320 main budget if it's a critical item that 720 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,279 you really want. 721 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,039 >> Yeah. stick it in the main budget 722 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:20,320 because they may have a higher 723 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,520 probability of passing and this the 724 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760 trouble with building account is you're 725 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,120 not really telling them what they what 726 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,320 you're going to use it for. 727 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,440 >> That's what I'm getting at. 728 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,159 >> Yeah. Great. 729 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,080 >> That's that is the the big give us a 730 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,520 slush fund. No, you can't have 731 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,039 >> we don't want a slush fund. We already 732 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:36,880 have a slush fund called the the 733 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,440 community center capital reserve which 734 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,679 by the way it's got about 270 grand in 735 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:44,159 it. Can't even get at it because it's 736 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:46,159 specific purpose thing. Well, it was 737 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:47,679 also set up improperly. 738 00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:48,960 >> Yeah, of course. 739 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,880 >> The money the money didn't go where 740 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,000 supposed to. 741 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,360 >> All right. Well, that's good. So, 742 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,279 everybody wants to go home. Uh, I'll 743 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,360 entertain a motion to adjourn. 744 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,080 >> So, move. 745 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,120 >> Second. 746 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,399 >> All those in favor? 747 00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:02,399 >> I thank you very much. 748 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:03,600 >> Roll call. 749 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,399 >> Oh, jeez. Sorry, Mr. Beron. 750 00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:06,960 >> Yes. 751 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,320 >> Mr. Dlinsky, 752 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,279 >> yes. 753 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,120 >> Percy, yes. Reese, 754 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,080 >> yes. Stone, 755 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,640 >> yes. 756 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,880 >> Uh, that's it. Swift and Mr. Swift 757 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,640 >> actually need to say yes. 758 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,799 >> He has to get sworn in too. 759 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,590 >> Yeah, we'll get beauty. 760 00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:26,610 >> [clears throat]