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uh 605.

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» Have the minutes recognized that

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Kerianne was duly elected appropriately

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by the voters at the time and that

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subsequent acts have created this

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incompatibility with office and then you

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can accept her. It's

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» Taking attendance. We have Brian. No.

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John, yes. Dane Collins, no. Dlinsky

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is remote.

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S is here.

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No, Stone. Yes. Yes. And Harry

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Sandel is a yes.

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» Who's that?

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» This is Jim Swift.

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» Yeah. Tell him to uh give us call back

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and five minutes.

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» We'll call him. Hello, Jim.

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All right. So, we have a call.

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» We're just getting we're just getting

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started with the meeting. We got a few

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things to take care of and then when

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it's your when we get to the candidates,

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I'll give you a call right back.

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» Okay. Yeah, sure. Thank you.

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» Um,

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first order of business is to approve

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the minutes from January 31.

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I'm going to take you under other

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business.

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» [laughter]

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» Hey, approve minutes. January 31.

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» Second.

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» Second.

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» Any comments?

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» Do a roll call.

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» Oh, I got Oh, we got Mr. Duplinsky.

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» If you agree that um we're going to have

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uh remote to u

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allow remote members to vote.

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» Well, they they can vote anyway. You

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just have to do a roll call vote,

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» Right?

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» All right. So, then we're going to do

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we're just going to do a roll call on

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all of our votes tonight.

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» Yes.

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» Okay.

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» All right. This is on the minutes. Mr.

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Berseron.

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» Yes.

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» Mr. Duplinsky.

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» Yes.

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» Thank you. Sal. Yes. Mr. Reese.

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» Mr. Stone.

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» Yes.

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» Sand Del.

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» Thank you. Okay. Next door to

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businesses. Uh, election of officers. We

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have three officers. We have a

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president.

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We have a vice or we have a chair.

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Excuse me. We have a vice chair.

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And we have a secretary.

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First we'll replace the current version

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of that which is Persia

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Persia. Sorry

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» And Reese.

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Okay. Accept any motions for the chair.

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» I move the existing slate.

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» You move the entire slate.

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» Do I have a second on that?

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» Yes. Okay. Any discussion on that?

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roll call. Excuse me. Okay. John,

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» Percy, yes. Reese,

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» Yes. Stone,

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» Dandel,

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» Thank you very much. We have a new set

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next order of business. Representative

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to the CIP committee last year was

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Persia. have any

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nominations for that? Anybody?

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» I nominate Percy.

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» All right. Any discussion about that?

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» Great job. Thank you. Keep it up.

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» Thank you. Okay. Appreciate that, Billy.

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I do have um All right. Roll call on

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» Mr. Duplinsky,

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» Percy abstains. Reese?

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Uh, just generally can meeting our

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meeting schedules. Can we all do

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» Shane, it's not a

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» I have a conflict on this.

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» Well, no, we finished the year on

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» Not in my world. [laughter]

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» First Wednesday of the month, I have a

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» Okay. So, let's do the second and the

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How's that? That works for you. That

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» Anybody have any problems with the

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second and fourth Wednesday of the month

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when we get around to starting them

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sometime in God knows when? [laughter]

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» September, right?

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» Way probably, you know, August at least.

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Maybe September. Aren't you going to be

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living in town by now?

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[laughter]

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» I already bought all the vacant land

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around the lake. So,

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» He knows that there's an influx of

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people. All right. So

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all right that is okay. Is that okay

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everybody with that everybody? All

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» So same as the board.

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» Not that it matters but it's okay with

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me by the way. [laughter]

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» Come. You're paid.

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» No conflict. You be

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» You are invaluable.

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» I'm a scrier. We are nothing.

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» Exactly. [laughter] Before we do that,

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do we know if Sadi is doing anything

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whiteboard wise on second important?

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» That's Tuesday. I don't know if there's

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other stuff. The meetings are Tuesdays.

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» The people who are absent, they tell us

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we got a problem. In which case, we got

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to reconsider.

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» Yeah, we can reconsider. Get a answer.

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not hard stone.

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» Exactly. Yeah.

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» Everything we do, we can do.

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» Okay. The uh next order of business is

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uh try to fill the open

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position that we have coming up.

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» Maybe we should first have an open

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do you have something to say to us?

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» I need to resign from the budget

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committee.

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okay. And the reason for that would be

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function of statute.

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» She's she now has a job as the finance

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director of the town. So, I get that

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she's ineligible in that context.

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All right. So, we will have to

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gracefully accept your resignation.

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Sorry to hear that out. Jack.

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candidates. Any are there any candidates

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to be uh considered here? We have one uh

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Mr. Swift.

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» Yeah, but I was just wondering, do you

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need to do your redo your quorum thing

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» No. No. Okay. All right.

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» We open the meeting with the quorum and

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» Okay. All right. That's fine. Okay.

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» Walked out.

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» No. A couple people asked me to put my

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name in. So, I don't know if you want me

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or not. But,

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» Well, I think

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» If you if you don't want me to tell you

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what to do, then you don't want me

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because I have a knowit all, you know,

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and I do know the law. So, but nobody

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else here has any training but me as far

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as I know except for Jack.

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» Yeah.

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» So, if you want me to go through, I can

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tell you my whole life story. My

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» You don't need your life story. I think

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we you you've already given us a really

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good reason why we would want you on the

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» Thank you. Is there anything else you

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» I'll just say I'm a I'm a nonpracticing

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CPA. I have a doctorate in finance,

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economics, and math. I have 21 years of

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experience on the budget committee of

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the town budget committee. I have eight

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years experience on the school budget

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committee and more than eight years as

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cemetery trustee.

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» I've worked as a college professor and a

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bunch of other things.

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» Impressive. Anybody have any questions

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for Miss Davis?

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candidate. Um, but before we get him,

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let me uh read his uh [clears throat]

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who he is.

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name is James Smith. He lives on N

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Swift. He lives on 94 Peninsula Road.

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he's a he's been an attorney with the

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law firm of Langro Berry Wool

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of Mberry in Burlington, Vermont for the

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last 44 years. His practice includes

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litigation, estate planning, real

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estate, and business transactions.

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He served as managing partner of the

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firm for 20 years. He's served on

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numerous boards of charitable

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organizations including Henry S Museum,

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middlebury Amateur Hockey Association,

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Mbury Cemetery Association, Addison

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County United Way, Arrow Streets Arts

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LLC, Milbury Middlebury Community House,

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Congregation Church of Mbury, North

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Chapel Universalist Society, and various

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others. He's been a permanent resident

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of can since April of 25 and is retiring

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from his firm this summer.

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So that's gentleman.

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» What's his name again, please?

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» James W. Swift and the firm of Langrock

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Berry and Middlebury

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» And the position

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that we're talking about here.

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» Oh, this is the uh to replace the

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recently resigned uh position position.

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» Pleasure committee member. budget

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we have the existing budget committee

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has is has the authority to appoint

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somebody and then they serve until the

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next town meeting they just serve until

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the balance of the year till the next

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» And then they would have to have

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[clears throat] to be elected

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» Do any of us know this gentleman

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» Yes

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» I think Tom knows. I I know him a little

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bit, but Tom knows him the most.

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» Yeah. [clears throat]

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» Hey, Ellie, I have a question for you.

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After the uh we interview this

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gentleman, would you be willing to leave

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the room so we can discuss it without

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you in the room?

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» No, we have to do it in public.

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» Well, I don't have to. Um I believe that

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uh

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I believe you can help me out with this

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because you know all the rules.

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» Yeah. There's something called 91-8.3

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non-public sessions and it applies to

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all public bodies.

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Um says you shall not meet except for

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one of the purposes in p in non-public

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session except for one of the purposes

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set out in paragraph two. One of those

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one of those items is item C. matters

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which if discussed in public would

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likely affect adversely the reputation

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of any person other than member of the

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public body itself unless such person

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requests an open meeting.

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» I'm requesting an open meeting.

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» Okay, that's fine. We can do that.

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» But I'm already an elected official. So

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» I'm sorry.

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» I said I'm already an elected official.

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So I think whatever I do should be

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public.

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» That's fine. That's why I'm asking. We

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can't do it. We have the authority.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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» Okay. I guess I've never had it done

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that way.

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» I know, but I did my homework.

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» Okay.

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» Okay. All right. So, let's get uh Mr.

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Swift on the phone and see what he's got

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to say.

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» Here is do the best. I got it out as

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loud as I can. Okay. I'll put on

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speaker. Yeah. Good idea.

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Hi, this is Jim.

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» Hi, Jim. It's Michael Reese here.

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» Hey, Michael.

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» Okay, so um I guess we're gonna have You

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can't get on team, so we're gonna we'll

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do it this way as best we can. Uh S, our

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chairperson, just read uh your bio for

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everybody.

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» Yep.

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» And we have uh five members. We have a

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few absentes absences to today, but we

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have five members of the board here and

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one other candidate also in the room who

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has been on the budget committee before,

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Kelly Davis. She's in the room also

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along with the town the town

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administrator and the finance man.

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» Y

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» I don't know. Can everybody hear?

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» Oh, you're right. And of course our

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minist

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I'm just going to put the phone down and

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I guess we'll invite him to

354
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» Yeah. Just if you just like to address

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the group and and you know tell us a

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little about a little bit more about

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yourself and why you're interested in

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the position. All right. Thank you.

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» Sure. Sure. Well, uh, Chip Swift. Um,

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I'm a lawyer. Uh, been practicing in

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Vermont for 42 years and, uh, retiring

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at, uh, the end of June. Uh, but, uh,

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Diane and I, uh, my wife moved to, uh,

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Kanan about a year ago in April. And um

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uh you know I'm interested in doing my

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civic duty of of uh trying to

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participate in local government and uh

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bring whatever knowledge I have from all

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the various things that I've done um to

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to to help the town. um you know

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[snorts] the things that I've done is

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basically uh managing a 24 attorney

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uh 60 employee um law firm for 20 years

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and u you know fortunately have handed

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off the torch on that been involved in

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lots of uh various boards

377
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um Madison County United Way etc etc so

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I I'm thinking that uh this be a good

379
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fit for me as I eased my retirement. So

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that's basically my thoughts.

381
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» Okay. Anybody have any questions for Mr.

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Swift?

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» So you went you went through the list of

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his experience items. Yeah.

385
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» And there were several municipal things

386
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there. Could you repeat the municipal

387
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items or maybe maybe Jim can

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» Government? But I have been um involved

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in municipal light things including the

390
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uh Addison County United Way which uh

391
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you know for 15 years I was on their

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board uh dealing with uh you know how

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how the money is raised and then

394
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dispersed and uh evaluating uh proposals

395
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for dispersement and uh so so I think

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that's valuable for the budget

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committee. Um, I also have been

398
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I god forbid but but uh sort of the

399
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chief financial officer for the Mbury

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Cemetery Association where we have a um

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you know endemic of over $750,000

402
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dealing with the u expenses and and uh

403
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proposals [snorts] for that. Um so

404
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things like that is is what I've I've

405
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been involved in as well as um of course

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uh being managing partner of a firm of

407
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you know multi-million dollar budget

408
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know having to deal with contractors and

409
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it and all that stuff. [snorts] Um, so

410
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you know, I've been involved in

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budgeting over over uh many of the

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facets of of my career.

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» Um, I do have another question for you,

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Jim. Um, we uh we will be meeting on

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Wednesdays, the second and fourth

416
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Wednesdays of the month at 6:00 PM here

417
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in town. Um,

418
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» Starting

419
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end of June is my official retirement

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date.

421
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» Yeah. Um but uh we we will start meeting

422
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somewhere around the middle of September

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official, you know, meetings and that

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will run um all the way through the end

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of January.

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Um so will you be available at those

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times and dates that we're going to be

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meeting efficiently enough to be able to

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participate effectively?

430
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» Yeah.

431
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» Yes. Like I said, um I'll be retiring

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and you know, right now I'm in Mbury. I

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work three days a week in Middbury and

434
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uh Mondays and Fridays remotely from

435
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from Kanan. Uh but at the end of June, I

436
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will be uh stepping down from the firm

437
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and uh full-time in Kanan. So yeah,

438
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that's good.

439
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» Okay. All right.

440
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Any other

441
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question? Sure. For us, I guess are are

442
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we able to increase the number from 10

443
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to something else? Not without you know

444
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some other kind of

445
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» Why would birth would you want to do

446
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that

447
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» Just if we wanted 11 or 12 on the budget

448
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that's

449
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» You have nine now

450
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» Nice to have an odd number but I think

451
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nine's quite

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» Well the town statute calls for 10 is

453
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that correct Ellie

454
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» Really

455
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» No it well nine it calls for nine at

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large number selected numbers and then

457
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the selectment choose a representative

458
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» It's just the

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» State doesn't count

460
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» Just like all the other public bodies to

461
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pick a person that they can't serve then

462
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they can pick somebody else to take

463
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their place.

464
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» Was that a warrant article?

465
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» No, that's in the law.

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» Stat

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reads 32 again, John.

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» Okay. [laughter]

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» Because some towns have less, but it's

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usually a multiple of three. So like

471
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some towns have three, some towns have

472
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six. Some towns have only an advisory

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committee. In that case, I think you can

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do whatever you want.

475
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» But

476
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all right. Anything else?

477
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Uh, okay. So, Jim, you're welcome to

478
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stay on the line if you like. We're

479
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going to be discussing voting on this in

480
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a few seconds here.

481
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» Okay.

482
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» So, anybody have any thoughts?

483
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We kind of have a Sophie's choice here

484
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because we [laughter] we have I would

485
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say very capable candidate on the phone

486
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and we have a very capable candidate

487
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that has served in the past in

488
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» And that's why I was asking about 11

489
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because it would be nice to have them

490
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both

491
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» Because I don't think there's a bad

492
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choice here at all. Yeah.

493
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[clears throat]

494
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» Nope.

495
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» Um,

496
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I liked Jim's resume and I liked what he

497
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had to say and I think

498
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fresh face would be advantageous. Fresh

499
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first participant

500
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sort of expanding the the universe of of

501
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uh activist

502
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uh residents in town.

503
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Tom, you got something you want to say?

504
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Anything?

505
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» Yeah. Uh, so I I basically support uh

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Jim. I've known him actually for more

507
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over three years and interacting with

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him with our community over on Goosebond

509
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and I, you know, uh, have we've

510
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interacted and I know his credentials.

511
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So I I'm supporting I would support Jim.

512
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Yeah. Can I say one other thing is I

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think

514
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this is too male dominated. You have no

515
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elected female members.

516
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» Okay. We had one she had one. She

517
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resigned.

518
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Doesn't want to hang out with us. You

519
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,984
don't know why you do, but that's

520
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[laughter]

521
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» But John, you had something

522
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» Want to say something?

523
00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:47,200
» Yeah. Uh just reading the laws RSA 3215.

524
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,600
Yep.

525
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» Budget committee committee cons shall

526
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consist of three to 12 members at large

527
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who may be elected or appointed by the

528
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moderator.

529
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» Oh,

530
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» As a town or district uh adopting the

531
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provision of this subdivision shall by

532
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vote determined. So it says it can be

533
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greater than what we have now, but the

534
00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:11,600
town meeting has to do it.

535
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:15,080
» Oh, the town meeting. So it said it says

536
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the uh

537
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as the town or district adopting the the

538
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provision of this subdivision shall vote

539
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to

540
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shall vote determined.

541
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» Can you have an alternate?

542
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» You have an alternate John? You know

543
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,159
» I'm reading.

544
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,640
» We did that. We've done that on the

545
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cemetery trust building.

546
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,480
I' I've never seen that. Means we should

547
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have had a warrant article to pick the

548
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number.

549
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,280
» Yeah.

550
00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:48,960
» And I've never seen that.

551
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,320
» You mean the budget committee had to

552
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have a warrant article to pick the

553
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,039
number?

554
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280
» Yeah.

555
00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:53,600
» Well, that would have been a 1948.

556
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,280
» Yeah.

557
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,440
» Were you around in 1948?

558
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,880
» No.

559
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,840
You probably didn't see it

560
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:05,200
» Before I started the minutes.

561
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,480
» We've always had that many. All right.

562
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,355
» You can't fix that now.

563
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,320
» We can't fix that now. Right.

564
00:22:08,355 --> 00:22:10,960
[clears throat]

565
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,880
So,

566
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,120
» I don't see any mention of all things.

567
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,919
» Okay.

568
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:21,480
All right. Any other comments, thoughts,

569
00:22:17,919 --> 00:22:21,480
quips, or quotes?

570
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,120
» Well, I hope whatever happens that the

571
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,120
other candidate would attend continue to

572
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:31,840
attend budget committee meetings and you

573
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:33,520
know, I mean, in this particular case,

574
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,480
Ellie comes to the meetings and she's

575
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:39,600
been a big help.

576
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:42,960
» In a way, it's almost a a way to expand

577
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,960
the body without expanding the body.

578
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,919
» Well, I haven't been. I only went to one

579
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,960
this year or two.

580
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:52,000
I went to the public hearing.

581
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,360
» Move the question.

582
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,799
» Okay, let's move the question. Jack

583
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,000
wants to go home. Go ahead. You have

584
00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:59,799
something else you want to say?

585
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,799
» Just let's go.

586
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,400
» Let's go. Says Mr. Stone. He's not

587
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,960
dealing well. All right. Let's take a

588
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:10,400
vote on this. Uh Mr. Berseron,

589
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,559
» Vote for Ellie. Ellie,

590
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Mr. Duplinsky,

591
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,960
» Jim Swift,

592
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:24,760
» Mr. Reese, I'm gonna say Jim Swift, but

593
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,760
I don't want Ellie to be mad at me, but

594
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:29,440
» Jim Swift.

595
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,360
» I can't state how important you are to

596
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:35,600
the group. I'm gonna vote for Ellie, but

597
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:38,240
that's a three to two for Mr. Swift.

598
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,480
Well, when I talked to Gold Sale, Mr.

599
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320
Swift,

600
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,000
» You're now a member of uh I'm sorry.

601
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Just give me one second. Mr. You've been

602
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,000
appointed to the budget committee

603
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,360
training, Mr. Swift.

604
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,360
» Okay, that's great.

605
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:53,039
» All right. And uh what I need you to do

606
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:54,400
is I need you to send me your email.

607
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:59,240
» I can I will

608
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,240
» Um And my email is S Perc

609
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,400
go

610
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,120
» Spelled like it sounds.

611
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:10,440
» Yeah. s p

612
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:10,440
i aat.net.

613
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:17,391
» But Mike Reese will send it to you.

614
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,760
» Mike,

615
00:24:17,391 --> 00:24:18,960
[laughter]

616
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,039
» He's on my email.

617
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,559
» Ellie, thank you so much.

618
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:25,600
» I forgot what I was going to say now.

619
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:28,400
Oh, I because I for both you and Mike.

620
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,400
It's nobody else, so I couldn't probably

621
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,159
wouldn't have bogged it, but um that's

622
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,880
it. That's all I wanted to say. Thank

623
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:38,640
you.

624
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,640
Okay. [clears throat] Um, okay. Any

625
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,080
other business?

626
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,400
We have any other business?

627
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:48,080
» I I just wanted to ask um we did last

628
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,480
year start on September 18th was so

629
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,960
probably that same uh you're thinking

630
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,440
we'll be

631
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,400
» Well, I need to sit with Jack. Uh we we

632
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,360
don't know whether we will have a

633
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,880
permanent town man town administrator in

634
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,679
place by then. We don't know what's

635
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,480
going to go on.

636
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:04,640
» Okay. uh act, you know, uh but I will be

637
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,159
sitting down with Jack and uh we'll

638
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,159
start to work out a schedule of when

639
00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:10,720
people can show up and carry in as well

640
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:12,480
and figure out what she'll be ready to,

641
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,000
you know, do other little parts and

642
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,400
pieces,

643
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,760
» But you know, because

644
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,582
» I I might suggest you you you um we can

645
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,240
talk about it.

646
00:25:21,582 --> 00:25:24,640
» [clears throat]

647
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,360
» It might be good to start earlier in the

648
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,799
in the year and and give enough time for

649
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:33,360
the department heads to come in and and

650
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:35,679
expend my my recollection from a few

651
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:39,039
years ago got pretty crowded

652
00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:41,279
schedulewise wise.

653
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:43,919
» Well, we did pretty well last year. We

654
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:45,840
got through it pretty well. I think the

655
00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:46,320
CIP committee wants to get going

656
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,440
earlier.

657
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,720
» Okay, that's fine, too.

658
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,440
» Right. And that'll bring the department

659
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760
heads in for their capital requirements.

660
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,159
Right.

661
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000
» Right.

662
00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:55,600
» And then, you know, whenever you guys

663
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,279
are ready, we can

664
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,120
» I mean, we're ready to start. It's

665
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:01,520
really a question of when the department

666
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:03,279
heads have all their

667
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,559
» Focus on perhaps getting information out

668
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,360
to you sooner.

669
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,440
» I like the

670
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,279
» I'm happy to make it less crowded. Yeah.

671
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,840
» So, we can do shorter meetings,

672
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,679
» Right?

673
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,360
» You know, I'm happy to do that, Ellie.

674
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:17,279
Well, I just look at the calendar

675
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,640
because of you switching to second and

676
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,279
fourth. You're actually like a week

677
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,760
ahead of

678
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,600
» Yeah.

679
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,520
» So, it's the 10th and the TW. You have

680
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,640
two meetings.

681
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,559
» The 10th and the 24th is enough.

682
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,159
» Yeah. We'll we'll we'll work it out.

683
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:32,880
» Okay. Well, I have to come in because

684
00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:35,360
I'm on the cemetery trustee. So, we'll

685
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,200
have to come in, too. So, I kind of I'm

686
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,760
sorry. It would be the 9th and the 23rd.

687
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,240
Sorry.

688
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,159
» That's all right. Thank you. All right.

689
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,039
So, yeah, we'll do that. Any other

690
00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:46,799
business? I do have one thing that I do

691
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,080
want to talk about quickly and then and

692
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:52,960
just so you can think start thinking

693
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:55,360
about it. Um last year at the um public

694
00:26:52,960 --> 00:27:00,480
session of the budget committee, we had

695
00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:04,080
one person show up. We had two um

696
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,720
warrants fail

697
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,440
requirement for the funding of police

698
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,919
cruisers and stuff [snorts] and uh the

699
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:15,279
town government buildings.

700
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:18,480
And I think part of that um was a lack

701
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:20,320
of information and education to you know

702
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,720
the town basically about what it's

703
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,559
about. So, I would like us to start to

704
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,520
think about whether or not I mean I'll

705
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:29,200
do it myself if I have to, but um I

706
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,919
would like to go out and go out and

707
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,559
after we've completed the uh budget

708
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:37,440
budget have a proposed budget and

709
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:41,600
Lawrence, I would like to some of the

710
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,120
groups in town and the Lions Club and

711
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,799
any other ones that have, you know,

712
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,960
sufficient enough people that we can

713
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,720
visit with and talk to them about budget

714
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,880
because if we wait for them to come to

715
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,799
us, they're not going to come to us.

716
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,279
So, I would like to, you know, see if we

717
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:58,399
can start to go out and talk to people

718
00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:00,159
about what the budget is and why it is

719
00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:02,000
what it is and why we're recommending

720
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:04,320
what we're recommending. So, just put

721
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,919
that in the back of your heads.

722
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,679
I'll see if we can get somebody on. Um,

723
00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:12,320
any other

724
00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:14,320
» The other thing is to consider moving

725
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,320
things from warrant articles into the

726
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,279
main budget if it's a critical item that

727
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,039
you really want.

728
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,320
» Yeah. stick it in the main budget

729
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:23,520
because they may have a higher

730
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,760
probability of passing and this the

731
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,120
trouble with building account is you're

732
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,320
not really telling them what they what

733
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,440
you're going to use it for.

734
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,159
» That's what I'm getting at.

735
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,080
» Yeah. Great.

736
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:33,520
» That's that is the the big give us a

737
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,039
slush fund. No, you can't have

738
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,880
» We don't want a slush fund. We already

739
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:39,440
have a slush fund called the the

740
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,679
community center capital reserve which

741
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,159
by the way it's got about 270 grand in

742
00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:46,159
it. Can't even get at it because it's

743
00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:47,679
specific purpose thing. Well, it was

744
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:48,960
also set up improperly.

745
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:50,880
» Yeah, of course.

746
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
» The money the money didn't go where

747
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360
supposed to.

748
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,279
» All right. Well, that's good. So,

749
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,360
everybody wants to go home. Uh, I'll

750
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,080
entertain a motion to adjourn.

751
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,120
» So, move.

752
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,399
» Second.

753
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,399
» All those in favor?

754
00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:03,600
» I thank you very much.

755
00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:06,399
» Roll call.

756
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,960
» Oh, jeez. Sorry, Mr. Beron.

757
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:08,320
» Yes.

758
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,279
» Mr. Dlinsky,

759
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,120
» Yes.

760
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,080
» Percy, yes. Reese,

761
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,640
» Yes. Stone,

762
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,880
» Yes.

763
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,640
» Uh, that's it. Swift and Mr. Swift

764
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,799
» Actually need to say yes.

765
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,590
» He has to get sworn in too.

766
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:26,610
» Yeah, we'll get beauty.

767
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:26,610
» [clears throat]