1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,060 All right, good evening, everyone. It's six o'clock. I'll tell tonight's meeting to 2 00:00:13,060 --> 00:00:18,220 the Canada Agua Town Board to order. We'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance led by 3 00:00:18,220 --> 00:00:19,560 Council Member David Sotter. 4 00:00:20,500 --> 00:00:25,900 I pledge allegiance to the Republic of the United States of America, to the Republic of 5 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:30,760 the United Nations, and to the nation on Earth and to the Republic of the United Nations. 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:31,900 All right, 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,460 Crystal, can you call the roll please? 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,580 Council Member John Casey. 9 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:42,660 Pleased to be here. 10 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:44,480 Council Member Dave Sotter. 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:44,840 Present. 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,240 Council Member Terrence Fennelly. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,900 Equally pleased to be here. 14 00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:50,980 Supervisor Jared Simpson. 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,220 I am present. 16 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:55,120 You can also confirm that the meeting was properly advertised. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Yes, well. 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,100 Excellent. 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:57,940 Thank you very much. 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,240 So we have written communications and correspondence. 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:06,560 We have the social media report and also the online traffic report from the sheriff's department. 22 00:01:07,860 --> 00:01:11,280 We do have our first privilege of the floor for the evening. 23 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:15,040 So is there anyone who would like to address the board at this time? 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:15,540 All 25 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:18,630 right. 26 00:01:18,790 --> 00:01:20,170 Seeing no hands, we will continue. 27 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,790 We have priority business of birthdays. 28 00:01:24,790 --> 00:01:30,890 So, happy birthday to Deb Boggs, Sue Cérensillon, Chris Litz, Shane Wheeler, Jim Fletcher, and 29 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:32,090 Mark Deutschlander. 30 00:01:32,510 --> 00:01:33,630 Happy birthday to them. 31 00:01:34,670 --> 00:01:41,910 We do have a presentation, it's not on the agenda, but Karen DeMay is here to present 32 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:44,870 on some cemetery information. 33 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:49,680 I feel funny having my back to these people. 34 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:51,620 All right. 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Good morning. 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:52,380 Good morning. 37 00:01:52,380 --> 00:01:52,600 Good afternoon. 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,540 This is a brief update of the activities of your cemetery committee. 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:05,180 The committee has five appointed members, Judy and Dave York, Doug Stone, Dennis Brewer, and myself. 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,420 We also have very dedicated individuals who attend meetings and provide valuable input. 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,200 They are Donna and Richard West, Patty Steele, and Arlene Reeves. 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,080 We benefit from their input along with the guidance of our town historian, 43 00:02:21,260 --> 00:02:27,240 Lee Ferguson. In just three years we have met regularly to tend to the care and attention 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:34,040 of the town cemeteries. Many minutes of each meeting are submitted and posted on the town's 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:42,800 website. In 2025 we have benefited by the continued restoration work on headstones and 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,900 and monuments by Mr. Peter Ellis. 47 00:02:45,940 --> 00:02:50,060 As you know, a separate subcommittee works diligently 48 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:54,560 to participate in the National Reads Across America Day. 49 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:57,240 This year, the date is December 13, 50 00:02:57,860 --> 00:03:01,040 with participation at Academy, PUN, 51 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,360 and new this year, Remington Route. 52 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:06,340 Thanks to the guidance of Donald West, 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,420 we provide proper respect to veterans 54 00:03:09,420 --> 00:03:18,890 and these cemeteries numbering 78. These are local heroes laid to rest. We are 55 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:23,290 working out a plan with Highway Superintendent Jim Fletcher to access 56 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:30,170 Landlock-Wilverton Red Dock Cemetery for much needed maintenance. We are working 57 00:03:30,170 --> 00:03:35,030 on proper signage that should be posted at Academy and Sandhill 58 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:41,710 Cemetery. Our two active cemeteries regarding the town's burial and use requirements. 59 00:03:42,670 --> 00:03:46,490 I'd also like to thank Director of Parks and Rec, 60 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:54,190 Reg Reynolds, for providing necessary brick and mortar repair to a corner post at 61 00:03:54,190 --> 00:04:00,630 Academy Cemetery. Along with this repair, his department always does a great job 62 00:04:00,630 --> 00:04:04,590 of regular care and mowing of our eight-town cemeteries. 63 00:04:06,670 --> 00:04:11,450 We are planning a cleanup day in spring of 2026. 64 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:16,110 We will learn more of proper cleaning and care of headstones and monuments. 65 00:04:16,750 --> 00:04:20,110 We hope to do this on a weekday to include town employees. 66 00:04:20,730 --> 00:04:25,750 And of course, you are invited to participate and appreciate all our good works. 67 00:04:26,630 --> 00:04:31,990 Thank you for this opportunity to share our passion for preserving our cemeteries. 68 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:38,050 In closing, every headstone represents a life once lived and the story ready to be told. 69 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:39,650 Thank you. 70 00:04:40,010 --> 00:04:40,450 All right. 71 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:41,270 Thank you very much. 72 00:04:41,910 --> 00:04:42,810 Thanks, Karen. 73 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:43,950 Thanks for all that you guys do. 74 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:49,510 Good job. 75 00:04:51,910 --> 00:04:55,490 Any, before you get too comfortable, are there any questions from the Board of the 76 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:58,190 Cemetery Committee that you're dying to ask? 77 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:03,390 Sorry, I had to get that in. 78 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:04,210 Just for you, Karen. 79 00:05:04,510 --> 00:05:05,290 I had to get that in there. 80 00:05:05,970 --> 00:05:06,370 Wow. 81 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:09,970 Leave it to the lawyer to be the last one to catch on. 82 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:10,990 That's analyzed. 83 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:11,990 Yeah. 84 00:05:13,530 --> 00:05:13,930 Yeah. 85 00:05:14,410 --> 00:05:15,570 That's going to cost us, isn't it? 86 00:05:17,710 --> 00:05:22,450 We do have a new public hearing tonight, a public hearing on a local law to override the 87 00:05:22,450 --> 00:05:25,430 tax cap levy for the fiscal year 2026. 88 00:05:26,890 --> 00:05:32,150 At this time, I declare the public hearing open and I want to invite anyone who would 89 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:34,730 like to come forward to address the board at this time to do so. 90 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:35,350 For 91 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:45,540 one more time, is there anyone who would like to come forward at this time to address 92 00:05:45,540 --> 00:05:49,140 the board on the public hearing that is on the table? 93 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,740 Any comment from the board? 94 00:05:53,900 --> 00:06:03,360 At this time I declared above appearing, so my reports of officials, Jim, do you have anything to add to your report? 95 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:08,980 You know, just one thing that we had that phase of water may break the city. 96 00:06:08,980 --> 00:06:20,450 and there was lack of communication that we discussed afterwards to provide SOP 97 00:06:20,450 --> 00:06:27,010 for everybody who purchases from the city not just our town so that we can get 98 00:06:27,010 --> 00:06:33,290 the information out correctly and together so that we're not having multiple 99 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:39,810 out of these sharing perhaps misinformation so the public can be 100 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:47,010 correctly notified of what's going on. So that is something I'm working on to get 101 00:06:47,010 --> 00:06:53,250 that resolve going forward. Other than that, you know, we've been out twice for the 102 00:06:53,250 --> 00:06:59,610 winter season, not so major so far, but a lot of work for the expense that we 103 00:06:59,610 --> 00:07:06,630 put in two-wire salt reduction with the help of the watershed and the grant to use liquids 104 00:07:06,630 --> 00:07:16,550 and live edge plows, calibration, many of other stations and road watches is coming along. 105 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:24,990 Things are looking good this year for reduction of salt and using our new C.M. 106 00:07:24,990 --> 00:07:34,670 software, which is like GPS on steroids. So it's a relief robust program for this. And 107 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:38,650 I'm not going to continue to move on left. All right, excellent. Thank you. 108 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Chris Lynn, do you have anything in addition to your reports? No. All right. And my reports 109 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:54,560 are in the agenda in the packet and I do not have anything additional to add either. 110 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,380 reports of standing committees finance we're just working on all the year-end 111 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:06,220 transfer stuff to make the balance out so that's what the words non will continue 112 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:12,620 to work on the next needs all right public works Terry yeah we met in 113 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:17,660 November 7th writing November 7th Jim covered some of the stuff that get 114 00:08:17,660 --> 00:08:22,900 more throat is open now for the winter until next year when you do the other 115 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:31,280 excited about. When we had the agenda review last Thursday, the item I could not remember 116 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:42,120 was the installation of the fiber optic condo. That was the, we talked about at the, oh it 117 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:50,020 works me, this is a fiber optic condo, a fiber optic cable that would be put into 118 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:58,420 a conduit, a city water treatment plant that would enable you to have a more 119 00:08:58,420 --> 00:09:05,560 secure access to what is going on with the pump station we installed three years 120 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:09,600 ago. No, more than five. 121 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,180 My age was like a 122 00:09:15,180 --> 00:09:17,200 continue on with the time. 123 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:27,980 This is another way, a safer, more secure way, you know, to monitor 124 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:34,720 that system. And the city has been putting this in. They've asked us to join with them for 125 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:45,740 was a third of the cost, costed $200,000. You're asking us for $66,567 sometime next year, 126 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:54,480 so something to think about. It's not an item in the budget, but this would come out of getting 127 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:01,580 a consolidated... It comes from one appropriate account, a consolidated water structure. 128 00:10:02,460 --> 00:10:08,200 but wouldn't be a drag on the budget. Anyway, that was the item. It is something we probably 129 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:14,780 should do for the town. But right now, given everything that's happened in this century 130 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:23,300 from a terrorism standpoint, this is another way to monitor and secure our water supply 131 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:32,960 Well, we currently use a cellular endpoint that is limited to the data that we can submit 132 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:39,080 not only through data on data, but for the video of cameras for the future that we'd 133 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:47,920 like to add to protect our water pump facility and partnering with the city says it's quite 134 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:54,980 of money because it's about 4,500 feet from the nearest poll to our site to get 135 00:10:54,980 --> 00:11:01,480 fiber to it. This is something the city of the town talked about, that we built the 136 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,860 water treatment facility but we didn't include it in that price because at the 137 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:11,280 time it was not something either one of us wanted to spend money on but due to 138 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,180 the constant I'll call terrorist threats that we receive from the 139 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:23,220 State Department of Health who was doing what where trying to find a better way to protect our 140 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:30,620 status system from being also attacked so that someone could potentially operate our equipment 141 00:11:31,110 --> 00:11:37,840 being also perhaps over-chlorinated water system. So which I hope would never happen, 142 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:46,080 what's possible. So we also talked about the potential opportunity to partner with 143 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,620 county through their home and security grant fund that we see right here. It's a critical 144 00:11:50,620 --> 00:11:56,420 infrastructure that aligns directly with the content of the grant that they get every year. 145 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:05,040 We're nice not to keep them from tapping too. So that's my thought out at Public Works to 146 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,960 discuss with Tom Orr to look at our future for us to have a hardware connection. 147 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:15,140 Okay. 148 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,940 All right. 149 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:19,620 Thank you. 150 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,120 John. 151 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:20,540 We're done. 152 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:24,630 Last, we left it. 153 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:27,050 Fund-based code. 154 00:12:27,450 --> 00:12:29,630 It was going to be put in a draft form. 155 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:33,330 And we're going to put it in a future public hearing. 156 00:12:33,890 --> 00:12:34,930 I recognize that, John. 157 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:38,350 We're trying to get that done before the first of the year. 158 00:12:39,390 --> 00:12:44,330 That being said, unless I hear any shrunk of the hearing, 159 00:12:44,330 --> 00:12:52,090 objections otherwise. I'm going to pause any future ordinance committee meetings 160 00:12:52,090 --> 00:12:58,530 through the end of the year as there would only be one anyways and out of 161 00:12:58,530 --> 00:13:05,310 respect for and recognizing that there are still pending results for the 162 00:13:05,310 --> 00:13:09,390 election I think it's best to hold on the area ordinance committee meetings 163 00:13:09,390 --> 00:13:19,010 until after the first of the year because anything that we were to recommend anyways would have 164 00:13:19,010 --> 00:13:22,990 to come back before the board then we got the other public hearing on it then we would vote on 165 00:13:22,990 --> 00:13:29,050 which wouldn't occur until after the year anyway so that's my position on things and 166 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:37,410 all right that's all we have perfect thank you. As for economic development I attended a 167 00:13:37,410 --> 00:13:43,890 meeting of the Finger Lakes Housing Consortium today, where I shared with them that the electrification 168 00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:49,050 mandates, again, we're talking about attainable housing within the county, projects that 169 00:13:49,050 --> 00:13:55,430 are going on, to meet the housing crisis, homeless crisis, that the electric mandates 170 00:13:55,430 --> 00:14:00,250 add about $30,000 to $40,000 to the price of a new home if you think of the demand 171 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:02,350 that that's putting on the grid. 172 00:14:03,090 --> 00:14:14,790 electric school buses will cost, will be the equivalent if the Cannondale will fully electrify their school fleet, it will be the equivalent of the draw of East U Mall in Cannondale. 173 00:14:15,210 --> 00:14:22,010 So then Victor will have two East U Malls drawing the electrical grid, which we just cannot, we can't take that right now. 174 00:14:22,010 --> 00:14:29,890 I am grateful that the governor came to her senses and paused the electrification mandate for now. 175 00:14:30,430 --> 00:14:36,970 And hopefully, there will be, smarter heads will prevail and there will be a way to look at that 176 00:14:36,970 --> 00:14:39,850 and look at a different way rather than jamming that down our throats, 177 00:14:39,890 --> 00:14:42,430 which is something that does not work in this part of New York State. 178 00:14:45,790 --> 00:14:48,170 We continue to meet and advocate with our G&E. 179 00:14:48,170 --> 00:14:53,510 On November 7th, there was a regional meeting with them, John was able to attend that as 180 00:14:53,510 --> 00:14:53,810 well. 181 00:14:54,190 --> 00:14:55,010 Thank you for that input. 182 00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:55,430 You bet. 183 00:14:56,190 --> 00:14:59,810 Yep, where we continue to advocate, RGNEO is. 184 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,660 Not very forthcoming in details. Just more general, generalities about some of the problems 185 00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:12,500 that they're facing, not really sharing with us where the electric is available and where 186 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:22,400 they are expanding. I also got word back through another channel that the PSC is now telling 187 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:30,300 our G&E that their future rate cases do not look good, that not to plan on any infrastructure 188 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:35,220 investment as a result of the pause on the electrification mandate. 189 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:40,300 So we have a pause on the mandate, which could allow us to catch up, but the PSC, the Public 190 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:46,320 Service Commission, is potentially telling our G&E not to expect any influx of funding 191 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,260 through the rate increase to allow them to build that infrastructure needed for 192 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:57,320 electric. So it seems a little backwards to me, but that's what it is. And let me 193 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,580 just piggyback on that for a second, please, George. Yes. In essence, what I 194 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:09,400 learned at this meeting was that, and this is being told to us now by the 195 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:16,620 CEO of RGD, New York State Electric and gas, and some for their upper 196 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:24,200 officers. They told us at this meeting that they currently do not have enough power nor 197 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:33,000 transportation infrastructure to deliver the demand on electric that they currently have 198 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,300 for their existing customers. That means all of us that currently are being served. 199 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:44,140 But if there's a new bus that goes online or there's a new house that goes online, 200 00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:49,100 in essence they're telling us they don't have enough infrastructure nor do they 201 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:55,540 have enough power to supply those new customers and they proposed a three-year 202 00:16:55,540 --> 00:17:01,360 rate increase and the reason they did that was so they could go and fund some 203 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,100 of the power and infrastructure requirements that are being asked of 204 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:12,380 them currently that's not even taking into account what the future needs of 205 00:17:12,380 --> 00:17:21,880 the public are going to be. So it was a very dire picture that was painted by the CEO of 206 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,360 RG&E and the New York State Electric, yes. So when I got out of it more than anything 207 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:32,900 else is, we prepared a heck of a lot more money for our electricity as all the things 208 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:33,740 around there are going. 209 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:40,440 And then, thank you, John. And then it might, you know, coming back to economic development, 210 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:48,880 Some of the new facilities, again, new businesses coming aligned, that is a serious challenge 211 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,580 that they face. 212 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:56,080 It would be nice if we could just run electrical lines as a town, but we don't have $25 million 213 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,940 just sitting around to improve the infrastructure, and it's illegal. 214 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:01,840 So that's the other thing, too. 215 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:04,100 So our attorney would probably yell at us for that. 216 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:05,980 You didn't put enforcement officer in sight by yourself? 217 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:13,800 As long as yeah, as long as Murphy will sign off and I think he's up there. So I just saw a nod, then we'll go ahead and we'll go ahead and start doing it. 218 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:16,880 So that's all I have for economic developments. 219 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:23,120 We do have our next privilege of the floor. Is there anyone else would like to address the board at this time? 220 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:44,570 Thanks, you guys appreciate the time to come up here today. In a few minutes, the board will be voting on the 2026 budget. 221 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:51,130 It's a little awkward, as John pointed out, the results are not yet done from the election. 222 00:18:51,790 --> 00:18:56,310 But during my campaign, I promised to roll back the supervisor salary if I was elected. 223 00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:58,190 Here's the challenge. 224 00:18:59,070 --> 00:19:04,550 Just today it came to my attention that if you approve the supervisor salary that's 225 00:19:04,550 --> 00:19:10,790 currently in the 2026 budget, it cannot be reduced for three years without a special 226 00:19:10,790 --> 00:19:11,310 referendum. 227 00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:23,170 As a result, and I appreciate fully that I'm at the 11th hour on this, I would like to ask the Board to reduce the supervisor's salary in the budget by 50%. 228 00:19:23,170 --> 00:19:35,110 My understanding is, if ultimately I'm not elected when the final tally is done, the Board has the ability to increase the salary back up again. 229 00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:41,730 But for whatever reason, the state has a law that says that you cannot decrease the salary during the course of the term. 230 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:45,890 So once again, that's a request I'd like to make to the board today. Thank you. 231 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:46,610 All right. Thank you. 232 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:51,360 Is there anyone else who would like to address the board at this time? 233 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Any online hands showing up there? 234 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:04,400 All right. So we'll now move to our resolutions and motions for the evening. 235 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:10,820 We have a conversation at the board level, or you're about those comments we just made 236 00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:11,820 by Mr. Cotter. 237 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,520 Well, we can do that when we get to item number 16 for the budget. 238 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,600 Yep, that's fine. 239 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,120 All right. 240 00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:24,260 So, general ops and finance, number 14, authorizing budget transfers for general and 241 00:20:24,260 --> 00:20:24,820 highway funds. 242 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:25,580 Okay. 243 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Moved by Terry, seconded by John. 244 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Any discussion on number 14? 245 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:32,160 All in favor? 246 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,020 Aye. 247 00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:36,120 Any opposed? That item carries. 248 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,580 Number 15, adoption of the local law to override the tax cap levy. 249 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:41,620 So moved. 250 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,320 Moved by Dave, seconded by Terry. 251 00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:45,880 Any discussion on number 15? 252 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:47,980 All in favor? 253 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:48,920 Aye. 254 00:20:49,460 --> 00:20:51,760 Any opposed? That item carries. 255 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:56,060 Number 16, adoption of the 2026 ton of Cannondale budget. 256 00:20:56,580 --> 00:20:59,060 Moved by Terry, seconded by Dave. 257 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,300 All right, discussion. 258 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:08,100 Chris, is what Mr. Cutter just discussed accurate? 259 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,500 Yeah, for some reason I thought it was two years, not three years, but yes. 260 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:21,440 Either way, I think that hasn't changed the general point of the matter that is correct. 261 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,140 So let me ask the question, or let me say it differently. 262 00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:32,260 That begs the question for me, just because we have certain monies in individual line items 263 00:21:32,260 --> 00:21:37,700 of the budget doesn't mean we have to spend it, and often we overspend it. 264 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,560 So why would the supervisor's budget be any different in that regard? 265 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,460 And? 266 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,140 Or even at the salary of a budget line? 267 00:21:50,380 --> 00:21:53,620 Well, I'm asking budget, because this is the budget. 268 00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:59,140 Now, the salary in my mind is a completely different conversation that has to take place 269 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:04,220 at some point and could just as easily take place immediately after the first of the year. 270 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,200 So there's New York City town laws such as 27, I believe, rushed through it here, but 271 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,620 I believe that's something that says it has to be set at essentially what it was, 272 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:23,500 That's what it was planned for during the election, which is later. 273 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:29,820 Again, so yes, it can be that salary and we can't change it now unless we were to have 274 00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:31,060 a volna, right? 275 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:32,000 Yes. 276 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:32,860 Right now. 277 00:22:33,020 --> 00:22:33,960 Well, yes. 278 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:40,220 Right now, it can't be modified, this salary can't be modified after the first of the 279 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:40,380 year. 280 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:41,720 That's my understanding. 281 00:22:41,780 --> 00:22:42,560 It can't be reduced. 282 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,420 It can be reduced by referendums and rents. 283 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Yes, but it can't be, it's not like you're negotiating with an employee, there's a... 284 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,520 We went through this two years ago, a year and a half ago, with it going the other way, with it going as an increase. 285 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:02,840 Increase we can do, you can't decrease it. 286 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,300 You can go on and keep it down. 287 00:23:04,540 --> 00:23:13,000 We went through this whole thing a few years ago with our justices, that we wanted to adjust the salary of one of them. 288 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,620 You adjust it for one, you have to adjust it for both. 289 00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:22,120 And you could not start during the term that that individual was serving. 290 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,200 I brought this up last week during the agenda review. 291 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:34,460 And my understanding is that we have until November 24th to approve the budget. 292 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,960 20th to approve the budget. 293 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,380 Three days from now. 294 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:45,700 If we make it a change in the budget as it's outlined now, we have to go through the public 295 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,640 hearing process. 296 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,260 It has to be posted for X number eight. 297 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:54,300 You have to come back again and make some kind of adjustment. 298 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,180 So otherwise, this is what you said to me last Thursday. 299 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:01,860 No, no, no. 300 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:04,980 If you don't, we would have to amend it on the floor. 301 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:08,640 we wouldn't have to do another public hearing because that was on the preliminary budget. 302 00:24:09,260 --> 00:24:17,700 After the preliminary budget public hearing, we then can amend it up to the time we adopted. However, 303 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:24,080 my point was that it has to be amended on the floor. We have to go through and change 304 00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:32,560 everything for the amendments on the floor in here and then go back and then 305 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,480 and rechanged everything in the budget prior 306 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,360 to submit it and then submitted it to the county. 307 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:42,500 But I got out of there trying last week 308 00:24:43,070 --> 00:24:46,560 for there wasn't enough time, there was a time constraint. 309 00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:50,560 No, legally, you can change the numbers 310 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,200 in the preliminary budget today. 311 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:55,160 You were so saying. 312 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,700 I apologize, that's what you got. 313 00:24:57,020 --> 00:25:00,760 That was more for dealing with what you could grow 314 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:08,420 three days from having to submit it to the county. And that's the timeline that I'm talking about. 315 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:17,180 Because there's all sorts of background processes. After you're hanging on the floor there's a whole 316 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:23,140 bunch of stuff that still has to then be done through our system and everything to then finalize 317 00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:28,080 and then get it to the county. Now the pound board could be the pound board would have to 318 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,080 make a motion to amend that motion would be at the DAS, and then you'd have to vote on 319 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,260 that. 320 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:41,840 There is another option. Let me just pause you for a moment. What I believe I just 321 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,980 heard was that if someone from the town board makes a motion right here tonight, we can 322 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:53,540 vote on it and modify that budget that is up for vote. That's my understanding, yes. 323 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:03,760 And I'll make that motion that we cut the supervisor's salary and the budget by 50%. 324 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:06,000 So I'm here to see. 325 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,720 So I make the motion. 326 00:26:11,260 --> 00:26:12,480 So there's a motion on the floor. 327 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,100 Is there a second? 328 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,740 Well, seconded. 329 00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:16,500 But I want more discussion on this. 330 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,520 Not my understanding at all. 331 00:26:18,860 --> 00:26:19,500 Are you sure? 332 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Yep. 333 00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:22,880 I'm sure. 334 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,180 not provide another option. 335 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:37,500 It is legal to an elected official to donate salary back to the town in another capacity. 336 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,500 So correct. 337 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:51,660 So you can in a way reduce the salary through the donation of that portion of whatever portion 338 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:55,180 your desire back to another portion of the budget. 339 00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:57,460 I hear that. 340 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,520 I understand that. 341 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760 I think that I made a motion. 342 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:07,700 I had it seconded and I'll just assume vote on that because it ends up 343 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,300 being the same thing back to the town. 344 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,900 Whether it's a donation or whether we modify the budget. 345 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:18,520 Well, if that back to the town is cut in half, there's nothing to donate back. 346 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,620 We'll reduce the budget by 50% of the supply rate. 347 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,080 Doing it this way, doing it for John's resolution, 348 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:34,680 we'll reduce the effective tax rate by whatever the reduction is. 349 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:40,620 You would still have to, even if whoever is the supervisor donated half back, 350 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:46,860 you would still have to charge the higher tax rate as if there was an offside. 351 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:54,900 Well, we had that situation before Greg was, but we just bumped him up to cover that extra 352 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:55,160 time. 353 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:02,840 But this is cleaner doing it this way, so easier, but I did bring this up during the Agenda 354 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,180 Review. 355 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,260 Yes. 356 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,660 This is my favorite review. 357 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:11,080 I know you guys had talked about that during the campaign. 358 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,000 I don't know if I can speak right, but I apologize once again, but as I talked about 359 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,040 the campaign no one ever brought to my attention that January 1st or whatever that I could do that 360 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:30,700 and so that's why I had to bring it today. I hope you have no ill feelings that I made the motion. 361 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,100 So what I did mention in this general review is that if this was to occur we have to go through 362 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:49,220 the lines of the budget, and then as the amendment, you know, that's what you were, Mahal. Well, first, 363 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:57,720 let's vote to see what happens. Well, any further? No, hang on. So, what lines of the budget 364 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:05,980 are we talking about? How many can there be? This is the number here. Well, that was a certain one. 365 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,520 It's in the budget itself, it's one, and you've got to amend the actual resolution here. 366 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:20,800 And then we have to amend the line in the budget group, which then also amend these auditors 367 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,060 in the summer, in the past, or in the evening. 368 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:25,400 You know, let us hold on a minute. 369 00:29:25,940 --> 00:29:27,040 Because it's basically a scratch. 370 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,020 But the overview for the other ones is full of budget. 371 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:42,380 And that's the timeline I was talking about just to be clear, because we're having to redo all this in the next couple of days. 372 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,120 We're going to get it to the town, both of them. 373 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,520 Just change the general fund by, you know, if it does not essential, right? 374 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:51,860 And then the public fund. 375 00:29:54,090 --> 00:29:55,330 Yeah, you've got to review this. 376 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:57,230 Well, you've got to go down. 377 00:29:57,730 --> 00:29:58,890 You can go down the soup. 378 00:29:59,170 --> 00:29:59,970 There's the actual sound. 379 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,020 So, right there. So, we got to put that number on the record rather than what it's going to be. 380 00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:12,960 Then we got to back up and then put the number on the record for whatever it's going to be set by. 381 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,980 And prior to accepting this, you didn't have to go back, you guys left the budget on the account code, 382 00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:25,640 and I reduced that number on the record while the account code was in here. 383 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:40,190 And then we have a motion on the floor to approve the budget as written, is that correct? 384 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:43,070 And then a motion to amend the budget. 385 00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:44,230 Yes. 386 00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:46,790 In that order again, please. 387 00:30:47,910 --> 00:30:51,150 So if there's a motion, we open the discussion on the budget. 388 00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:57,610 So, there's a motion, a first and a second to accept the budget, and that's number 16. 389 00:30:58,210 --> 00:31:05,450 And then we have a first and a second, a first by John and a second by Terry to reduce the 390 00:31:05,450 --> 00:31:09,290 supervisor's salary, 50% to amend that. 391 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:17,270 So, there would be a vote first on the amendment, and then there would be a vote, well, just 392 00:31:17,270 --> 00:31:21,910 that would there would be a vote on that amendment and then we would continue looking through having 393 00:31:21,910 --> 00:31:26,370 other discussion on the budget. If there was other, if there were other items that needed 394 00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:32,010 amendment, those amendments would be voted on and then we would come back and vote on the budget 395 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:32,650 as amended. 396 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,960 Follow me? We're going to vote on the amendment first. We would have to vote on 397 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,020 the amendment first and up or down vote on the amendment. And I'm going to recommend that 398 00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:51,480 in a minute, that we go over everything that the amendment needs to include, and that in 399 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,060 a minute you'll withdraw your motion and then immediately make, you'll withdraw your motion 400 00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:05,240 with your seconds consent, and then immediately so move anew on that, that way we can detail 401 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,940 everything that you're exact. 402 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,200 I think you just said the opposite of what Jared said. 403 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,660 No, no, no, no. 404 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,620 Two amendments. 405 00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:15,840 What's that? 406 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,360 You say we got two amendments. 407 00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:18,040 Why do we need two amendments? 408 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,880 We have one amendment covered. 409 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,620 No, so it would be the amendment. 410 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,240 Is everything related to the Superman? 411 00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:28,000 There's any of the fallout according to this would be included in that amendment. 412 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:34,420 So, we're going to vote on my amendment first? 413 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,460 Yes. 414 00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:36,240 Yes. 415 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:43,200 And then we're going to vote on a lot of fine budget fees, unless there are other amendments. 416 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:45,120 Unless there are other messages. 417 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,260 I'm sure you want to do this, Dan. 418 00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:50,240 So, 419 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:53,590 any further discussion? 420 00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:57,530 Just need to clarify what we're voting on. 421 00:32:58,070 --> 00:33:04,390 So, reducing supervisor salary to 50% and all by 50%, 422 00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:11,430 and all other associated adjustments within the budget that would just be bookkeeping adjustments 423 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:17,150 and not have an impact on this amendment. It's just a fallout. 424 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:26,270 That's what we were voting on. 425 00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:26,910 Okay. 426 00:33:30,650 --> 00:33:39,650 All right. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed say nay. Nay. And I'm going to 427 00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:49,210 you vote present. So it is 2, 2, 1, 2, 1. So the motion does not carry, but we 428 00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:53,610 just saved 429 00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:55,150 you about three hours of your life. 430 00:33:57,530 --> 00:33:59,390 I think that would be way more than three hours of your life. 431 00:33:59,650 --> 00:34:00,510 Any other... 432 00:34:00,510 --> 00:34:01,290 Wait, sorry. 433 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:01,810 Sorry. 434 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:03,010 The motion did not carry. 435 00:34:03,010 --> 00:34:04,250 The motion did not carry. 436 00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:05,410 We're not doing spreadsheets. 437 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:05,950 No. 438 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:07,550 So don't do anything else. 439 00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:09,110 Don't change anything. 440 00:34:09,390 --> 00:34:10,550 No, that's... 441 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:15,490 And I'll say it one more time. It did not carry because a couple of years ago, 442 00:34:15,490 --> 00:34:20,790 go, we had a similar two vote situation and I said it didn't carry. And there are some 443 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:25,090 people very confused with the fact that it didn't carry when there were two people who 444 00:34:25,090 --> 00:34:31,170 voted on it because there were three people at the meeting. So anyhow, all right. Now 445 00:34:31,170 --> 00:34:36,970 you have the budget as is. Well, any other amendments to the budget, any other proposed 446 00:34:36,970 --> 00:34:39,070 amendments to the operating budget? All 447 00:34:45,340 --> 00:34:49,680 right. So as far as item number 16, the adoption 448 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,440 of the 2026 Town of Cannondale will budget. All in favor say aye. 449 00:34:53,660 --> 00:34:55,960 Aye. Aye. All opposed say nay. 450 00:34:56,340 --> 00:35:03,500 Nay. All right. So the vote is three to one. And that item carries. 451 00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:09,990 All right. Item number 17, setting of public hearings, 452 00:35:10,130 --> 00:35:13,410 transfer from the general fund contingency and tax stabilization 453 00:35:13,410 --> 00:35:17,050 reserve to the retirement contribution reserve. 454 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:19,530 So whoop. Was that you, Terry? 455 00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:23,250 Yeah, loop by Dave seconded by Terry any discussion on number 17 456 00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:28,870 All in favor, aye. Any opposed that item carries 457 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:35,030 number 18 establishment of the parts and recreation capital reserve fund pursuant to 458 00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:38,390 general general municipal law 6c 459 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:43,150 So move by Dave seconded by Terry any discussion on number 18 460 00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:48,470 All in favor, aye. Any opposed that item carries 461 00:35:49,530 --> 00:36:00,770 Number 19 finding of completed purpose for solid waste management reserve reserve fund so move by Dave second and by Terry any discussion and 462 00:36:02,030 --> 00:36:08,970 I will say that this fund was set up for the transfer station improvements according to the building up for the landfill closure 463 00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:14,850 But as we go through with the closure of the landfill any transfer station improvements 464 00:36:15,730 --> 00:36:25,590 My intent was to advocate any improvements come from county reserve funds to help the municipalities make those changes. 465 00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:33,570 So there's still a small amount in the transfer station reserve, but as far as the rest, it's being moved to other places. 466 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:35,290 All in favor, aye. 467 00:36:35,650 --> 00:36:35,910 Aye. 468 00:36:36,070 --> 00:36:36,150 Aye. 469 00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:36,810 Any opposed? 470 00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:38,610 That item carries. 471 00:36:38,610 --> 00:36:44,730 Number 20, authorization to transfer funds from the Solid Waste Management Reserve Fund 472 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:50,510 to Parks and Recreation Capital Reserve Fund and Highway Improvement Reserve Fund. 473 00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:51,290 So moved. 474 00:36:53,170 --> 00:36:56,050 We'll give that move by Terry, seconded by John. 475 00:36:56,190 --> 00:36:57,470 I think I heard a second over there. 476 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:58,770 Did you second that too? 477 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:59,370 Terry did. 478 00:36:59,950 --> 00:37:00,430 All right. 479 00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:01,530 I'll give it to Dave and Terry. 480 00:37:02,610 --> 00:37:04,150 Any discussion on number 20? 481 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,260 All in favor say aye. 482 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:07,560 Aye. 483 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:07,780 Aye. 484 00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:08,780 Okay, any opposed? 485 00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:10,560 That item carries. 486 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,460 Number 21, acceptance of the proposal from MRB Group 487 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:17,620 for the fire station, oil and water separator replacement. 488 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,760 This is moved by Terry, seconded by Dave. 489 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,480 Any discussion on number 21? 490 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,800 Yeah, I think it's good to mention 491 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,940 so the public is aware that the intent is 492 00:37:29,940 --> 00:37:32,160 that the town will install the separator, 493 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:34,980 self-perform the installation of that. 494 00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:42,620 I think that's very cost-effective for the public. It eliminates us having to go through 495 00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:50,520 the public bidding process and to pay the prevailing wage rates for that work. So I 496 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:57,180 just think that Jim ought to get a clue to on that for performing that work for us. 497 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,720 And I just thought the public should be aware of these types of issues. 498 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,420 I think from MRV as well, because design that tool that we've got will make it through. 499 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,760 Are you keeping track of how much you've saved us this year by installing and running things? 500 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,160 No, roughly not. 501 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,360 Kind of roll under my head, but I won't say it because I want to keep you humble, but 502 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:21,500 even though you didn't say hi to me? 503 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,260 Yeah, we've got it. 504 00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:31,780 them all right we said also what's this well water separator is installed properly 505 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:40,220 and brought up to current code the next iteration the next contract with the city they will be 506 00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:49,840 maintaining everything at that site and the past events on debate regarding the language in the 507 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,680 contract, what constitutes maintenance. 508 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:57,260 And this is the year when both contracts, 509 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,440 Cheshire and the city, come up again for next year. 510 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:04,200 Those of you that are interested, 511 00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:07,320 I'm sure you've seen those numbers rising like crazy, 512 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,340 but they will be responsible for everything that happens 513 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:12,040 in their site. 514 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:16,540 They do not want to build any itself, 515 00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:16,920 But 516 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,220 It will be responsible, so we'll give them a building that's 517 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,760 Well suited for you, so as long as their council passes my hands that yeah, so 518 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,900 Well, they don't pass contract. They don't get the one point two million. No 519 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:40,440 One point four six. So point four six. So with that. This is fire station, too 520 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,920 Which is behind me flowers. That's not a plug from it next to me flowers 521 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,420 It's not a plug for any one flower shop over another one. It's just where it's located 522 00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:53,160 Our contribution to the city fire department is one point four six million dollars this year 523 00:39:54,140 --> 00:40:00,220 City council has made it very clear that they expect because of the new fire study and the new demand for 524 00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:02,980 fire protection that our 525 00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:07,820 Our contribution will go up is what they're saying that 526 00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:13,660 That we need to be prepared for a larger contribution and a larger ask to meet those needs 527 00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:20,260 Anybody who looks at fire protection and thinks it's going to go down is pretty much clueless. 528 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:28,240 The costs do not go down with fire protection, especially with the mandates put on the fire departments in the need. 529 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:34,060 However, if the town of Cannondale were to pull back, which I am not advocating, 530 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:37,560 but were to pull back and have no contract with the city, 531 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:44,120 They would still need the same number of firefighters with or without us as part of their protection district. 532 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,940 So it's really important to remember that prices are going up all over the place. 533 00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:58,320 Firefighters, $150,000 a year, 125 to 150 by the time you're done with training and equipment and everything else. 534 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,160 And the study is going to come out that they almost need to double the size of their quality. 535 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:09,040 He needed to have another nine for ten to their department, which that adds up really quickly. 536 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,280 So anyway, but this will alleviate. We have a great relationship with them, 537 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,900 and I appreciate the relationship with their fire department, 538 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,920 and this will help them have a little better building and keep up on that building. 539 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,240 All right, so as far as number 21, all in favor say aye. 540 00:41:25,420 --> 00:41:25,640 Aye. 541 00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:26,520 Any opposed? 542 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,320 That I don't care. 543 00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:34,740 Number 22, acceptance of storage tank and equipment rental agreement. 544 00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:35,320 Second. 545 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,520 Moved by Terry, seconded by Dave. 546 00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:40,180 Any discussion on number 22? 547 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,040 This more question just looked like it was a rent to purchase agreement. 548 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,660 And I thought that was a great opportunity. 549 00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:53,440 And again, Jim, thank you for taking advantage of that 550 00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:57,420 further discussion. 551 00:41:58,220 --> 00:41:59,520 All in favor say aye. 552 00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:00,040 Aye. 553 00:42:00,260 --> 00:42:00,720 Any opposed? 554 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:06,940 item carries. Item number 23, appointment of the director of development. 555 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:07,580 So moved. 556 00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:11,620 Moved by Terry, seconded by Dave. Any discussion on number 23? 557 00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:15,130 Paul, in favor say aye. 558 00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:15,730 Aye. 559 00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:17,190 Any opposed, say nay. 560 00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:17,770 Nay. 561 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:20,910 All right. That item carries 3 to 1. 562 00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:30,190 Number 24, authorizing the 2026 dental care program selection and contract execution. 563 00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:31,330 So moved. 564 00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:33,610 Moved by Dave, seconded by Terry. 565 00:42:33,610 --> 00:42:35,190 Any discussion on number 24? 566 00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:38,550 All in favor say aye. 567 00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:42,710 All in aye. Any opposed? That item carries. 568 00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:49,170 Number 25, setting a public hearing on a proposed local law amending Chapter 92, 569 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:55,010 construction codes uniform to align with the 2025 New York State Codes. 570 00:42:56,310 --> 00:43:00,170 Moved by Terry, seconded by Dave. Any discussion on number 25? 571 00:43:03,550 --> 00:43:10,590 Again, I think the public should be made aware of the fact that New York State has modified 572 00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:21,530 its building code requirements and regulations and what this resolution does is puts the 573 00:43:21,530 --> 00:43:26,290 town in sync with what the state requirements are. 574 00:43:27,790 --> 00:43:30,530 Yeah, that's one I think the public should be made aware of. 575 00:43:30,610 --> 00:43:36,990 It's not as if we are adding codes indiscriminately to our building codes. 576 00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:41,170 Well, thank you for pointing out to us by Mike, 577 00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:45,710 if you are a lead code enforcement officer during this discussion, 578 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:50,310 the ordinance committee was at the number of inspections, 579 00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:58,270 or like a single family house in Bodle had been around 20 infections and our people 580 00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:02,150 would have to perform before we get on the boat some 34. 581 00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:04,270 I thought it said 43. 582 00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:05,670 Was it 43? 583 00:44:05,890 --> 00:44:06,510 It was 43. 584 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:07,710 It was 46. 585 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:09,210 Yeah, no. 586 00:44:09,410 --> 00:44:10,250 Learnless has got it back. 587 00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:11,150 Almost double. 588 00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:12,990 Mikey, up there. 589 00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:13,910 He's probably sleeping. 590 00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:14,730 Don't put him on the spot. 591 00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:16,110 It was a lot. 592 00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:17,410 It was roughly double. 593 00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:21,430 And they're also going to have schematic drawings for HVAC and all that. 594 00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:24,070 Yeah, that's right. That's another good point. 595 00:44:24,610 --> 00:44:29,510 For a single family home, you have stamp drawings for... 596 00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:32,030 35? You guys weren't even close. 35. 597 00:44:32,510 --> 00:44:34,030 I was closer than they were. 598 00:44:35,950 --> 00:44:38,070 But it's great. 599 00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:44,550 So, in essence, what that means to a person that is going to build a home, 600 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:51,590 Typically in New York with home building, the HVAC, the heating ventilation and air conditioning, 601 00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:56,870 the electric and the plumbing is generally done on a design-built basis. 602 00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:59,970 That saves the consumer... 603 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,040 A lot of money by not having to go through a design professional to provide those drawings 604 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:13,320 to the town for review and approval. What this ordinance or what this code now is going to 605 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,980 do is going to require every single family home to have the HVAC, heating, ventilation, 606 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:27,080 and air conditioning, plumbing, and electric designed by a professional prior to it being 607 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:34,640 approved by the town for a building and that's just going to add. It depends on 608 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,420 the home on an average let's say half a million dollar home it could add 609 00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:49,160 probably five to seventy five hundred dollars worth of cost. It's going to add a lot. It's going to cost a lot for our audience. Costs and time. Costs and time. 610 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,440 That's just the design work that I'm talking about that's going to cost 611 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,300 an additional five to seventy five hundred dollars and not being more in 612 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:05,100 forehousing out of attainability. Again it's just adding to the cost of homes via 613 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:11,540 mandates rather than via positive construction because it doesn't matter 614 00:46:11,540 --> 00:46:19,780 because there's no power anyway. No I know it doesn't matter. Yep. Well wood, candles, 615 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:20,480 Yeah. 616 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:21,020 For now. 617 00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:25,380 And this is just setting a public hearing for the records. 618 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,220 All right. 619 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,320 Just for item number 25, all in favor say aye. 620 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,660 Aye. 621 00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:30,720 Any opposed, nay. 622 00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:32,940 Item number 25 carries. 623 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:36,840 Number 26, acceptance of the surety payments. 624 00:46:37,660 --> 00:46:38,040 Second. 625 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,080 Move by Terry, second by Dave. 626 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,980 Any discussion on number 26? 627 00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:44,160 All in favor say aye. 628 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:44,660 Aye. 629 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,520 Opposed, nay. 630 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,740 Item number 26 carries. 631 00:46:47,740 --> 00:46:55,440 number 27 acceptance of the gem coal renewal surety bombs so move by Dave 632 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,520 seconded by John any discussion on number 27 633 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:27,660 Okay, so for item number 27, all in favor say aye. 634 00:47:27,660 --> 00:47:28,140 Aye. 635 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:28,960 Any opposed? 636 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:29,400 Nay. 637 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,820 27 carries. 638 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,760 Number 28, authorizing the execution 639 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,100 of a stormwater access easement and maintenance agreement 640 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,020 for ferricels. 641 00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:40,860 So moved by Terry, seconded by John. 642 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,400 Any discussion on number 28? 643 00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,440 I would like to thank staff for working on that, 644 00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:47,140 especially our attorney. 645 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,980 They reached out kind of behind the eight ball, 646 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,320 trying to get in with a little bit 647 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,140 of more decent weather. 648 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,920 Staff was able to push that through a little bit, 649 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,760 following our same process but just expediting things. They are expanding 650 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,840 their memory care unit at Ferris Hills. Some of their locked units needed for 651 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,060 their Alzheimer's and dementia care which is very much needed for our 652 00:48:10,060 --> 00:48:14,580 community. So for number 28, all in favor say aye. 653 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,320 Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Number 28 carries. 654 00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:23,990 For the consent agenda we have 655 00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:30,770 of the meeting minutes is outlined and we have the payment of the bills is outlined in the 656 00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:40,490 abstract B and C. Negative motion to approve the consent agenda. So we'll move by Dave, 657 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:45,750 seconded by Terry. Any discussion? All in favor? Say aye. 658 00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:46,250 Aye. 659 00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:46,370 Aye. 660 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:47,870 Aye. 661 00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:49,130 That in carries 662 00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:53,050 There any other business to come before the board at this time? 663 00:48:55,330 --> 00:49:00,750 We do not have any requests to enter executive session any requests from the board and our executive session 664 00:49:02,410 --> 00:49:06,330 Do we have an example we do have the walk-in resolution if we can bring that up 665 00:49:07,630 --> 00:49:11,910 While we're doing that Chris, you don't have an executive session request for you. Okay 666 00:49:13,210 --> 00:49:15,330 We do have one walk-in resolution. 667 00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:20,270 This came in because at the end of last week, we received the dog control service agreement 668 00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:21,290 from Ontario County. 669 00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:24,550 This is allowing us to sign that contract. 670 00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:28,050 Our allocation is $31,441. 671 00:49:29,530 --> 00:49:34,270 The county recently went through and redid their formula based more on population. 672 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:39,710 Cities of Canada and Diego, cities of Geneva took a larger hit, a larger percentage 673 00:49:39,710 --> 00:49:48,450 of an increase. And so this is on the record. We contract with Ontario County, we contract 674 00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:54,550 with Ontario County. Ontario County contracts with Humane Society. This helps with those 675 00:49:54,550 --> 00:50:01,070 dog control services. If we did not do this, we would have to have our own contract. Plus, 676 00:50:01,190 --> 00:50:05,730 we would have to have our own pound within the town of Canandaigua. So there are not 677 00:50:05,730 --> 00:50:09,250 many dogs you can put in that room right there and still be ethical and legal. 678 00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:14,830 So basically they do this because it's too much for us to do and it's in 679 00:50:14,830 --> 00:50:19,790 practical for each town to have their own dog control so we contract through the 680 00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:24,270 county. So this carry-on resolution that is before us, can I get a motion? 681 00:50:24,830 --> 00:50:25,070 I move. 682 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:29,670 It's a motion by Terry, second by Dave. Any discussion? 683 00:50:30,750 --> 00:50:33,510 Yeah, again, this is another one I think it's a public that we've made 684 00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:41,550 aware of. We spend more on catching dogs in our town than we do on saving lives. We do 685 00:50:41,550 --> 00:50:49,970 more, hey, it costs us more in our budget to collect these dogs than we give to the 686 00:50:49,970 --> 00:50:56,590 Canada Drug Emergency Medical Service squad. And I have an issue with that personally. 687 00:50:57,210 --> 00:51:03,250 And if I'm not mistaken, based on the numbers I saw, we collect approximately 25 688 00:51:03,250 --> 00:51:09,510 $25,000 or $26,000 for this and it's costing approximately $31,500. 689 00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:14,410 So, you know, we're a little bit in the red on this line item. 690 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:18,610 We should talk about that next time we discuss the budget. 691 00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:25,010 Maybe you'll contribute to the mercy flight and others what they ask us to contribute. 692 00:51:25,870 --> 00:51:26,930 You forget that part. 693 00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:29,330 She's not setting the number generally. 694 00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:29,810 Absolutely. 695 00:51:29,970 --> 00:51:30,150 You're right. 696 00:51:30,190 --> 00:51:31,510 We give them what they ask for. 697 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:32,030 You're right. 698 00:51:32,170 --> 00:51:35,590 Does that only produce numbers as to how many dogs on the calls end? 699 00:51:36,050 --> 00:51:36,710 Do you have that location? 700 00:51:37,570 --> 00:51:39,490 Not on the number of calls. 701 00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:47,330 They just take the budget for that service and they equalize it based on population. 702 00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:53,310 I know there are other things that went in because that is why the city and the city 703 00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:58,530 of Geneva, the cities went up the most because they have the most calls in the most employees. 704 00:51:59,490 --> 00:52:01,110 But again, you can't tell. 705 00:52:02,170 --> 00:52:08,870 They just took in 20-some dogs recently that were taken out of a condemned residence. 706 00:52:09,730 --> 00:52:10,350 So you never know. 707 00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:14,710 And they're looking at an expansion of that building, too, because they do not have the 708 00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:19,270 space that they need to meet the dogs that come in, plus they're an opal shelter. 709 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:26,630 So they have animals that have been there for several years, unfortunately. 710 00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:28,930 We don't have an option. 711 00:52:29,550 --> 00:52:30,050 We don't have. 712 00:52:30,130 --> 00:52:30,710 This is mandated. 713 00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:31,630 It's mandated. 714 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:32,350 Yeah. 715 00:52:32,430 --> 00:52:33,430 And we can't negotiate. 716 00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:35,890 We could hire someone. 717 00:52:37,210 --> 00:52:40,950 That could be less expensive than $9,000. 718 00:52:44,010 --> 00:52:45,050 $21,000. 719 00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:46,290 $20,000. 720 00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:46,610 Yes. 721 00:52:47,650 --> 00:52:49,250 Did you say that they were strays? 722 00:52:49,650 --> 00:52:50,110 No. 723 00:52:50,350 --> 00:52:51,870 They were taken from a home. 724 00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:53,950 They went into a home. 725 00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:54,870 They pulled out. 726 00:52:54,870 --> 00:53:00,570 it was, and I'm drawing a blank on, it wasn't here. I'm drawing a blank on where it was somewhere. 727 00:53:00,610 --> 00:53:09,570 All the way. Yeah, yeah. No, and they went and the house was a mess, and they pulled the animals, 728 00:53:09,790 --> 00:53:16,230 and they gave the people tickets, and then they left to appear in court for that. And then the 729 00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:21,410 words that were on the hook, taking care of the animals, and treating them in vet care, 730 00:53:21,410 --> 00:53:27,790 and nursing them back to life which you know spent a lot of money fixing stupid 731 00:53:27,790 --> 00:53:33,370 things that people do all over the place. Alright any other business to come up for 732 00:53:33,370 --> 00:53:37,710 the board? I'll ask them one more time. Yeah we got a vote on it. Did we get sidetracked on? 733 00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:42,150 Yeah. I do not have a number written down. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say 734 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:47,550 nay. That item carries. Thank you. Not see my number. No. Alright I'll 735 00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:52,550 entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. Moved by David, seconded by Jerry. All in favor? 736 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:55,190 Aye. Meeting is adjourned.