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Relations,

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players, we just do the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands for the Nation of Nicaragd, Newdiceville, liberty and justice are all.

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Thank you for everyone coming, today. Kind of first call on purpose, the public floor if anyone might be building it before the form of the UNO learned.

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I don't know.

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We're

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all looking at you, Jay.

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You wait a minute.

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I'm good.

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All right.

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Now we go to approval minutes.

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Some move.

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Sector.

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Were there any changes?

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Yes.

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We can't quit with that one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I kind of quit with that one.

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All right.

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So let's move on to new topics for discussion.

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All right.

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We have to go to the second and the vote.

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Oh, didn't my set?

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What do you say?

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So one of you guys.

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The second.

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because you're part of a committee.

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I'll second it.

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You're now in the official register.

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You're nice.

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All in favor?

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All calls?

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So move.

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All right.

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Now we move on to new topics for discussion and party.

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This is my first bet.

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There's the talent of candidate with comprehensive housing,

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economic profile for my favorite kind of housing assessments.

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All right, so if it's for the committee, I did upload some of our last meeting,

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the housing report, and I updated the question.

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John, can these guys get on the London's Valuencing Civic Plus members that are...

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Yes.

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Yeah, the public floor, or what?

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Send the directions.

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Okay, so I don't help you guys just because he's a test of that you're not going to be

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able to see.

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so it's easy to go on and just click on it so yeah the access to all the stuff

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that was saying I just didn't read the 278 pages yeah so I mean maybe like

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three yeah you're seeing a time right anyway I'm sorry yeah so what I did was I took the

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housing assessments, final report, their presentation that they did to the Supervisors

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or Supervisors.

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I did it somewhere near that and that's the report I printed for you guys.

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Just shows that we're still in the growth area.

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Some of this stuff is a little outdated.

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Here's it's from between 2010-2001.

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So obviously we're a little bit past that, but that's when this housing report was done from.

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The last time we talked about the needs for housing,

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there's a report that justifies the competition that we were having.

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being the economic development group, part of our cats among the comprehensive plan is

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that it's a housing, and this report goes over some of the needs and where we're short

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and almost never category where short, so is there any question on that or any further

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discussion?

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I guess the only thing I would be not saying concerned because it's not a huge concern.

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We talked about what are we going to do to try to bring incentivize the builders, the

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contractors to kind of make the opportunity to build, bring in more housing because obviously

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that's the problem I think we have that none of the housing and then we get into the conversation

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about what is considered affordable housing.

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So, how do we bring in the right builders

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that will be willing to make those efforts

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to make the vision come to life

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that we can actually build some housing that,

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could it entice people to say,

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I mean, looking at pharmaceuticals,

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almost has a third more residence growth than what we have.

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And since I came from Birmingham, I can start to speak to that.

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I mean, they had subdivisions that were just starting out.

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And they were very large ones.

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But there are in the same boat that I think we are here now with the power issues.

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We look at our growth note of the uptown area.

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I don't even like it since the housing bill there.

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Sarah, I'll talk to you too.

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I mean, you have a project that you're trying to move forward with

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lawmakers, which I think would help with our situation, but I would be

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curious to hear from your FASC at what your challenges are moving forward as

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well. Getting things approved, the process. Through the town, the state, with like...

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Through the town. I mean, we would have had our project build 10 years ago.

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So it's kind of, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, what is your project down,

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but it could lose that?

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So we own quite a bit of property behind the fellas from Farmington, Townline, North

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River, and we for the past probably 10 to 12 years have been working with the town to

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try to get that plan approved, and it just, we'd move five steps forward and go back, but

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but I think we're looking at a positive direction now

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and getting closer,

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but I think the town could do a better job,

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not just enticing the right developers,

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but working with the developers

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to speed up the process of getting things done.

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There's a lot of money that goes in on the development side

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before we even break through out.

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There's not a lot of upfront costs

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that myself and my partners have put in

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that nobody sees on the outside.

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and you know we're continuing to do it because we want to see it but a lot of

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people you know they might not have that and if you can't speed it up to the

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sense to where it makes sense you're gonna lose people you're gonna go in spots

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where you do kind of develop faster and I think Farmington is a great show of

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that. Sometimes I would do my property. You wouldn't do Farmington. Well you are in

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the town of Kevin. We are in the town. So when you bought the property was it

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zone, right? Or did you have to rezone it? No, it was so it's considered a mixed-use overlay, I believe.

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And her project right now is going to be going to front the town board,

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or the consideration of being rezone to the project. Yeah. So I'll plan it on.

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Which I think is, I do agree with her, but I think things are moving more efficiently.

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I think we're hoping that that moves forward, but, again, I think there's one issue.

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I think utilities are another, and you've been working on, you haven't seen some trying

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to make things happen to bring power to our area.

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I think those are some hurdles.

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I know that we've changed form base code to try to make things a little bit easier for developers

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because the comments that we were hearing just like Sarah just mentioned, is there more

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that we could do? That's what this group is with. And that's what we need to figure out of

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what can we do. Because ultimately we need housing. And housing will help us with our businesses.

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Yes. Because people need places to live. Yes. Sarah, you do it on a microcontainer.

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That's going to be an issue. Yeah. Is it a nice bag or are you mean?

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They're kind of one thing, but it isn't it isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more power and

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night sag when they're large and angry. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm doing a development of wells

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or night sag. Okay. We don't have any power issues with that. I think they both got operational

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issues but different between the two and two, even though it's the same. It's very strange

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how that whole thing works.

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Do they upgrade there?

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I mean, because it usually comes down

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with some kind of various mission line

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that they need to have for power.

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That seems to be the limiting or substations limiting factor.

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So that they, nice, there must be a head of the curve

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with updating their grid versus RGN, if you think that's it,

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or maybe there's just, they have the extra power

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because there's not enough development

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where the RGN is stepped out.

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I'm not sure.

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Right. That's more private.

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Well, and it may be premature, but I'll just tease it out a little bit. I was in a meeting last week where there's an opportunity that may pop up.

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Talk to Kristen and Dan and John about this.

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Where there's new technology that's being considered by this county that will convert our waste and energy.

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one of the sites they're looking at is right in the area of where we want to

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develop our housing units and they can actually provide power off the off of

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the main grid in their own sub-stage. And so there's more to follow on that as

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far as you know what's getting traffic impact and environmental impact, although they

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say that the technology bit has been in existence and

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been being refined in Europe for 50 years. And so the bugs that are all been worked out supposedly,

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but the county is interested in this as possible that we could get the site because we're on

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a real spur or that that helps could get it because either on a real spur and be either an economic

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developed for the county and the chairman of the board, both themselves, but I don't get

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that. So ultimately that from the power side of things, can you tell us about it like

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a nutshell?

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Yeah, the nutshell is the waste comes in, they take all the recycling and they resell recycling

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and the parts that aren't recycled, they have the technology and I'm so far from the

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that it's a limited oxygen that's in there, but somehow there's steam and limited oxygen

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somehow allow this stuff to be not insigrated with smoking a butt, but burn and generate energy.

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And it's so it will be a landfill essentially.

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We'll be a landfill, but waste will come in recycling will go be separated and go out and then

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energy will be this stuff. Burn is not the right term, but it will be converted to energy and steam.

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It's household waste though. It's not like sewage treatment.

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They will also be able to handle the sewage treatment stuff that can't go anywhere.

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The dirty village, whatever.

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So if the tent county goes forward doing this and if we're lucky enough to

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We'll do some, this group will do some analysis of whether or not we think it makes sense.

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I'm looking at all those factors including an intersect with the city about the other day because, you know,

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if rail cars, because they would, they'd also be able to bring in waste from the outside.

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So if we go from one rail car on crossing 332 every couple days to 3 or 4 a day,

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would that be a problem with the city? They're like, it would not be a problem to see.

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And we need to solve this waste problem that we have as a county, and if we can turn it in energy and

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houses they can they can actually have a substations would just you know have energy for residential

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They ideal for them is they would have a factory right next to this waste treatment plant and they were just

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Directly put the energy into the factory, but we've got housing. So you're not burning it. You know incinerating it

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There's got to be sort of like a digest or what happens to the root I mean there's got to be part there's got to be some waste and correct

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Yeah, there's there's three percent waste that residual something

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Call it yeah, that has to go to something just three percent of which is if you're getting three

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If you get 100 real cars coming in, go three goes up, maybe three goes up, three goes up.

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So I'll tell you, if people want to follow up on this, in advance, then I'm just teasing

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you now because I just been teasing my, but if anybody wants to look up, it's called,

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because I did a little bit of research and controlled hydrolysis is the name of the process

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I thought if something that happens to me, I have to ask you to set it up.

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I realize this is PYRO, LYS.

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So anyway, could it be an opportunity for us to solve some of our energy aids?

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and it could be an option for the county to solve its waste and eventually energy needs as well.

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So this happens, does this cut out nice act or are any bypasses are genuine?

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They have the opportunity to feed it into the line which does really help or they would build

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their own power station and evidently there's government funds to build this stuff so they've got money

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coming up. Is that partially an answer to the Casela situation to longer-term?

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Yeah I mean you know that's that's part of the reason why this is being pursued. The energy

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production part of it is just that's oh my god is this too good to be true because they've been

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I'm looking at all kinds of things, and I'm not being next.

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Thursday, to review all the options. But it really came out of, what are we going to do with this waste? And then these guys say, well, we can get rid of waste and produce energy, right? Which is what's got it almost seems like it's going to be true to this. But it's been going on here for a year. So anyways, that could be, I couldn't solve our energy part of it. On your question, I'd like to take you back on that. I'm going to look at you as our PR person.

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So, as we go down this path, I'd like to think of a way for us to be able to communicate

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the public.

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if indeed we're able to provide, you know, affordable housing that isn't twisted into people's brains,

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some people want to jump to, you know, terms like low-income housing or maybe house to go ever.

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You know, if we go down those paths, we go down this path, but affordable housing does not mean

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that all of a sudden we've got, you know, those kind of people moving into our neighbor.

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All right, that we just have a place for people like my daughter who's, you know,

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It had to go to Rochester by house, I suppose we'd be able to buy else, but, but I think part of it is the communication that we do on

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She's 31. Using the term work for ourselves. Yeah, I think that's what helps with it. Yeah, and so

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We're looking at saving for a house and everything like that. So there could be like

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Started home, but it's expensive. You can word it into it. I think that's it. I think the PR side of it because I just think

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somebody of the day and the term came up. They immediately jumped to the end. We don't want, you know,

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like Nimbi, Nimbiria guys. This to the numbers, is he ever saying that's that is primarily through 2020

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with the numbers? How is this stuff on 46th, both found a candidate go ahead and hope well?

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That's because I think most of that's in the range that's on the right. It is, and it does help,

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But it's a small project. Yeah, it really were so far in the mean and I looked at

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Sarah's project because it's where we've been built. Again, it will only be a small

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percentage of what we really need. How many units do you guys take?

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Is that the one

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that's like 800 units? When that ballpark. No, I think you're thinking of Jeff

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a place to go to play.

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I'll put the phone and put the phone in.

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There's a big six.

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Where's that property?

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Where's the...

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I've always wanted to put it, it's...

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a stretcher over on there.

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They still seem very big, they might have built 600 units on 100 acres, well it's a mix of

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apartments, households and, you know, families, right, they should be able to base up to the

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planners for that, so the no power showed up.

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But they have been trying to develop that for a lot of years too, that kind of like coincides

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with ours that this isn't the first time that project's been brought up.

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If the control, let's just call control here, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, we've built

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next to Sarah's property, would that be able to come all the way over to Jeff's project

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or is it isolated for Brad?

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No, two, two mile rate is, so I don't know how far.

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Okay.

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So that's what I was asked to my to my right to say that they would put in the infrastructure within a two

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mile raise and that would be on the developer. No, that would be on the the company that's

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doing the control. Yeah, it would have to be on the rails for that would be the only doubt

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probably the winners that couldn't put it anywhere. Yeah, well, you could put it anywhere except

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that the rails for would allow waste to come from other places.

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Trucks would be probably what we

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would all do in the county, but then every decided, okay, well, we'll also allow, you know,

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ways to come in from Syracuse, and that would come to the real.

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Do you have thoughts on the study?

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Yeah.

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Any other questions?

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I was in lines.

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I mean, I think they're a range of a good point.

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I mean, the town's got to start being a little more lenient on, you know, redeveloping areas

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It's so that it can be bested.

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Where my graduate didn't hope was,

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we're going over four and a half years on.

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We're just starting to get to changing

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and to high-density residential.

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And I don't, and it's just the snail space

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and the developers have times of holding costs.

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I agree with that because there's a lot of

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right to get through to live or how it's actually.

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So here in Canada, I think that we're going

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well at changing our code and allowing some more administrative approvals of

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self, compared to sending everything to your planning board. But when we're talking

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these large projects that have to go to town board, have to go to planning board,

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how do we do that? I've been working with First and First Business and we've been

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coming up with some strategy. But again, this is where this group is going to be

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official products to allow us to talk more about, okay, how do we fix these big projects because

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these big housing projects? How do we allow those for a little faster? At a state level,

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honestly, you hear the governor talk about, you know, we're doing the swept approvals for a

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environmental. That's always been a big hold up over the years. And so there's small steps

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that have been done. Obviously, it doesn't change anything that you guys have dealt with over

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the last decade. But moving forward, I think that there's a push to try to make these more

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streamlined. Do you like codify more? So there's less kind of discretionary and like manual review

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you stuff, because I feel like it's gone the other direction with smaller residential projects

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and some of the bigger stuff the last few years where the process has gotten longer and

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shorter.

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I wonder how much of it can be, like, established structural process and that I have to go

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through all over here.

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Yeah, I agree with that comment.

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And I mean, Chris, did you want to talk about that?

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Sure.

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So in the, well probably past three months, we have shortened the time frame between the applications outline and the board meeting you attend approval. So we've taken two weeks to four weeks off that time.

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So it's speeded up process. The way we've done that is to allow ourselves a little bit more time up front for our internal review and the review of the outside agency.

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this is some project too, and that's an

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effort to get paperly buttoned up complete

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project to present to the board so there's no

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continuation, most likely about that has

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really spent things up and we're really

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not seeing, I mean there's extenuating

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certain stances but it's very limited, we

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aren't seeing applications that continue

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that you know the planning board model and

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download like these. So I think that's helped a lot with Sarah's projects a little different because

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really so and so that unfortunately was after. So the town's already to the point of Gordon

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that's the town board. That tells us to be a pretty much process. I don't know how that's the

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void of all. Do you read I mean could some of that be accounted for and like does the next use overlay

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structure and what it accounts for, get revisited as part of the comprehensive plan to refresh stuff, because when we review the

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grant plan, we will look at all zoning districts and make sure that that's all kind of compliant. Overlay districts also get looked at.

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But again, some of that comes back from the meetings that the open houses of people that show up and say hey, you want to do these things in this area as a loud.

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And that's when we started really looking at this zoning districts and making sure we're not going to move any boundaries, but because that's a time board action.

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but we can definitely want to look at what's a lot of infrastructure because I'm an

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over-enthusiastic person, but I think that's been a lot of movement trying to make processes

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more efficient.

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It is already clarified, so it takes so processing of itself to then change the codes, run

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through Oregon's committee then from the town for change or local laws but there's been a lot

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of recognizing the struggles and the need to make things more efficient to a certain point.

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I mean we obviously can't just open up for a free for all but I mean out town but a 650 unit

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development. I mean, we got that through the start of, so they brought it, they first

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brought those plans to the, uh, or September 24th, and it was, we were ready to, uh, well,

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we're ready to, what's the shovel in the dirt by summer or last year, um, until it was

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less than a year. Yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was

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So that there, you know, with the housing needs,

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there's been a recognition of change in the process.

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A lot of the processes are having

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to be notified for years and years and years,

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so it's no matter just kind of finding those areas

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figure out what we need to do to change.

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Still staying within the constraints of other laws

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that we have to buy by your state law,

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EEC, seat your requirements, all that.

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And then trying to do what we can on our end

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and make process more efficient.

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The Ministry of Recruals, one thing that we recognize

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is a way to keep the minor things out of the planning board

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because it also got to recognize the planning board.

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This is its own entity, the board appoints the members,

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but they can't, what the town board can do

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to fear with plan for activities.

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Planning board can hold things up

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and based on how they want to review stuff

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separate from what the town board are developing off this one so they're

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the one entity that we can interfere with. I think they also have kind of

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recognized needs to move things a little quicker through our town project and so

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so it's getting there it's not going to be a snap and fingers change overnight but

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where we are you know bringing a directed development in has certainly what they

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They may go for me to be able to start on a daily basis working in these areas to look

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at what we need to change, making more efficient and working on every day with the developers

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and getting their thoughts and then this committee as well is part of that plan, too, that

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they get thoughts and get ideas and see what we can do to make this better because we can't

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just, you know, stick with kind of the old thought process of, you know,

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what houses we want green space because if you don't develop it,

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your account starts to die and that's housing is a priority for us.

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It's a town board in hatred recent houses is a priority, but I don't want to lose

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side of smaller stuff though to like a friend of mine built a turf facility

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over and right and you know I think to Sarah's point the expense and process ahead of time for

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people doing smaller scale stuff that are self-funding is cool you know he was explaining the process

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and he I think it took him two years between rezoning and permitting and stuff and you know he's

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said I haven't talked to anybody through the process that's opposed to this and everybody seems to

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want facility like that for benefit of kids in the area but it still takes a lot of money and a lot of

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I don't understand how things are priority, but I think in terms of other stuff too.

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It's a good idea for this committee to bring that guy in.

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What did you face that we might be able to change?

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Because he's a real world problem, I mean, you guys all got something going on, so we

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as a Tom Bourd definitely want to hear that.

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We want to hear problems, you know what I mean?

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I mean, the good things always get pushed back.

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I mean, these guys do a great job,

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but if there's problems, I think we need to know a lot

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because that's the only way you can change it.

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I agree because they is awesome

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that Bob is, and they've set up a committee

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that with three people have a real experience

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in this area that are on the committee,

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but there's other people out there as well.

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So, what some of the thing about maybe is is there,

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is there a place for,

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and I just even have one person come on,

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but have a, you know, an open session for people that are experiencing real-world stuff now.

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And where it's, once again, controlled civil dialogue and discussion, no y'all in the

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screen that about my product are, you know, but just being able to do what you guys have done already

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and other people have done saying, hey, it's too slow because of this. I'm not being communicated

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regularly on this, you know, the Cloud Permit.

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You know, you know, the average joke, you know, whatever the series of things are, that we will all heard, but bringing in even a broader percentage. It's a great idea, but maybe even a broader group of people to represent small projects, housing projects, small business projects, large developments, to kind of have a just around table discussion comment, you know, not a town hall meeting company, but just a, you know, think through and have around this table a dozen people who all are in that, in the throws that are right now.

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I think that'd be a good idea to get.

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I remember we've had a change.

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We've gone so long, you've been in two years, two years.

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So we had another person in that position

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that some people had problems with.

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So we want to get over that, and we are over that.

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So we're going forward.

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We brought Dan on board to trust some of these problems

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and try to expedite and make the process easier on you guys.

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And certainly less expensive.

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I mean, that's a big thing for me.

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We shouldn't be causing you guys out of pocket money for no reason.

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So even taking this committee back into place again is because we want economic development.

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Right.

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And how is the best way to do that?

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Yeah.

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And I like the codifying and streamline process of stuff too, because there's always going

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to be expense with it.

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But I think the challenge that I've run into these guys have to is if you know how the time

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what you're getting into makes it a little bit more palatable versus the surprise stuff

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is, you know, kind of giving us from actual dollars. It's

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presciting or just the timeline that they see at these. Yeah.

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I was just with the energy. A surprise for you guys. No, my current

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surprise is my beautiful trailer sitting in front of Stella's tap.

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Everybody wants to buy and it's not for sale that I've been trying.

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And everything keeps changing. With that at one point, you know, we have to

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widen the road that was never said, you know, I think what you said there about the

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surprises is just why would we put in a brand new road when that's the road

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that's going to be used for the future development. It's like the town isn't

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looking at properties in a hole and you know working what makes best. You put

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you, yes we understand we have to widen it for the emergency vehicles but there's

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Some things, it's one thing to widen it,

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and then do the road after.

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We're not gonna put down a full million dollar road

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to have production dealers come and turn it off.

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We're just trying to put a single family home there

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that we have a group of people for.

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So I have the DOT or is that stuff?

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The town has given us pushback on that.

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So I agree to your point of bringing people in

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to see where collectively we can move forward

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certain things like I agree that you have to have structure and you know approval processes.

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I all means we don't want just anything going up and happening but there's some things if you want

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action to actually take place you have to work with the developer you know we're going to put the

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road and we want I mean I bought half the trailers on that road mobile road because I'm there 24-7

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that sells, I want good neighbors next to me. I want to clean that area up. So I think

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that working together really needs to be the ones from with developers personally.

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Yeah, I've always felt that I need development that I've done is the person's type.

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Correct. It's not a partnership. It has a serve. It's just a strange feeling when I'm

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bringing in tax revenue every every step of the way it's a challenge.

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And that's that's the goal of the world since I'm trying to work at is changing

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more. I want the partnership. Yeah. I don't want you to deal with the counter

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bench you know. And it's all tops. Yeah. Hold on. No, and I know it. Yeah. It's a

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problem everywhere but that's one that I do recognize. Sure. And the goal is be

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going to work forever. To be able to explain what the town needs and then what you guys need

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and hopefully meet someone, but there shouldn't be surprised. There shouldn't be to try

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and have to be like, oh, by the way. Can I, I don't know what the right timing is but I,

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I think I might have mentioned cloud permit.

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I'm curious. Do you guys have an option or plan

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Because I think we're going to see more of it.

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I think it came up with our, the barmy, put up last fall with the men and

445
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nights.

446
00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:49,440
And one of the, the code enforcement guys is like, you know, your contractor

447
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,600
hasn't logged into cloud for men.

448
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:57,040
I'm like, well, they, they don't, they don't have to, they're like an

449
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,620
alternative, some sort of, mediation option, I think for some of those guys.

450
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,760
So, Dan, we're doing the way with cloud for men, we're getting a news.

451
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,960
uses no, no.

452
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:11,040
So cloud comment, if we're doing an overhaul of the cloud,

453
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,380
a bunch of very numbers and other softwares

454
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:17,420
being much more expensive.

455
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,020
So we did sit through a bunch of demos of other softwares

456
00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:25,800
and we do have one that we like if we truly need to go away

457
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,920
from it, but what we've tried to do

458
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,160
in the code guys that have been working very diligently

459
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,220
at this, it's changing the whole look of cloud comment,

460
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,840
trying to make it more user friendly,

461
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,380
trying to look at those options of,

462
00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:40,360
Okay, for those people that don't have a computer or a hand,

463
00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:41,440
what do we do?

464
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,640
And a owner sign-off seems to be a big one.

465
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,440
So we form now that the owner has been signed,

466
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,980
and then we can just upload it into the system.

467
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:54,320
So we're trying to take all those comments,

468
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,360
and again, the more comments that we get,

469
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,680
the more that we're going to try to do.

470
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,360
I have an experience of one with code format.

471
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,360
I had to come in here and have Sarah do it.

472
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:09,940
So I really have to be aware of that.

473
00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:13,560
But I'm not a dummy, but it just wouldn't accept it.

474
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:16,560
So we're, and that's the big thing that we're trying to do.

475
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
There's, before it was all, you couldn't do it.

476
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,880
We would send you a message.

477
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,340
And if you have any issues on the computer sending a message,

478
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,900
the text box is not quite the answer we want to give you.

479
00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:40,760
So, I've been working with staff that, you know, if they, if they're messaging us, they're calling us to, you know, we're going to stay on the phone and we're going to offer as many options as we've been to walk through it.

480
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:54,020
I've had this conversation with Hayden and Chiefs that had the person up there when people walk in that we, we have the computer in the lobby, we're supposed to be helping them through the process.

481
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,160
We don't want it difficult, and that's why we also look at more options in cloud format

482
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,800
that uses AI.

483
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,060
Basically, we aren't available after hours or something like that.

484
00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:08,220
They will help try to get you through step-by-step.

485
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,040
There's some guides on there that also show a lot of pictures of step-by-step.

486
00:37:13,060 --> 00:37:15,420
We're trying to provide as much information out there.

487
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:18,520
But still, we're going to have those people that just came through.

488
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:24,060
So, and we live in an area where men and nights, I mean, I've used men and nights any number of

489
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:24,340
months.

490
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,980
Well, their population is growing right, and they wanted to, and they wanted to work, they

491
00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:32,920
wanted to come here to work, they get their insurance and all that so, I mean, we're probably

492
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,840
need to have some face to face for those people because they're not going to come into the,

493
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,220
at least some of the ones I've had are not going to come in and click and plaque on our computer.

494
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,140
They're going to be like, where's the pencil?

495
00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:45,940
If you give them a ride, they might go mad.

496
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:47,860
I guess the guys on the line are glad.

497
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:49,580
Yeah, the guys on the top run on my product.

498
00:37:49,780 --> 00:37:50,180
They're just swelling.

499
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,340
They might like to do that on their own.

500
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,000
Well, there's like 40 or something.

501
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:54,580
Yeah.

502
00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:55,100
Right.

503
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,360
It's getting...

504
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080
I had a crew of men and I had to do all my first moving.

505
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,620
And first time they're getting dropped off using wheels.

506
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,420
You know, not rubber wheels.

507
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,980
Now they're driving.

508
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,080
They have cell phones.

509
00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:10,380
They're bringing their own equipment.

510
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:35,630
Yeah, and there was first few projects I went through there was that big you guys said the wall of like the plastic holders of packets that would walk through like what each project was and I know there's

511
00:38:36,990 --> 00:38:43,030
some digital versions of that, but it was really nice to say, like, oh, hey, you're looking to do this, here's like a three-page back at those names of it.

512
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:44,550
There's a whole name.

513
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:48,750
They all put up, so it's just redid a bunch of guides, so there's a lot for shoes.

514
00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:49,370
Oh, nice.

515
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:50,810
There's a bunch of sides.

516
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:56,310
So those are also available for every single project.

517
00:38:57,290 --> 00:39:04,190
I think you'd want to go, but I think going through every topic that you can pick on cloud format,

518
00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:10,590
and there's a guy. What's needed, what we're looking for, because again, we've listened

519
00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:18,770
to the comments of old folks moving. So we put a guy there saying, this is everything.

520
00:39:19,350 --> 00:39:25,330
This is everything that we're going to ask for. And if you complete these, you should have

521
00:39:25,330 --> 00:39:33,110
no issues. And I actually just reached out to the Rochester building association, I think.

522
00:39:33,110 --> 00:39:39,670
to have them review organized, because you have to remember it's code folk and playing folk.

523
00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:43,330
We read them and we think, oh, this is great, but we have the knowledge.

524
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:50,150
So I want to get those guides out to some of the builders out there and say, these make sense.

525
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:55,450
Does this walk you through the process? So I'm waiting to hear back on their review of it.

526
00:39:56,490 --> 00:40:01,370
But this our goal is we want the commenters in this never-schlocking McLeoderman.

527
00:40:01,370 --> 00:40:06,050
to be able to get through it without, without help.

528
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:07,690
But if they do need help,

529
00:40:08,650 --> 00:40:10,330
we've also are here for it.

530
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:14,390
Question for you guys, what we're still in the housing stuff.

531
00:40:15,010 --> 00:40:15,450
Curious,

532
00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:19,540
I think you're going to talk more about

533
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:23,780
the four terminal stuff, but is the housing seasonal

534
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:26,740
vacancy rate thing of concern, or is that typical

535
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:30,560
or do we know, like, that seems like a lot of houses

536
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,340
is getting a big challenge, but I mean,

537
00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:39,210
I don't think we have any issues with this.

538
00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:47,590
Hi, I don't think so, I mean, we'll talk about the short-term rentals here.

539
00:40:47,950 --> 00:40:50,430
Well, you might have if we've jumped to that, but I'll go for it.

540
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:54,630
All right, so let's jump to short-term rentals because I think that they can see right

541
00:40:55,450 --> 00:41:00,290
impact the housing staff. We talked about short-term rentals. How much is it taking from our staff?

542
00:41:01,490 --> 00:41:07,610
available. How many, how many houses are there in the town. So there's on this one hundred

543
00:41:07,610 --> 00:41:16,050
and six. It's a total of five houses. Yeah, there's something like five, oh, it's a total

544
00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:19,290
house. Yeah, not short from. So it's like a 10%.

545
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:25,890
Yeah, that question. Actually, so many, I'm

546
00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:27,530
on some of the day about the number.

547
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:31,150
Do we feel like we totally captured everything?

548
00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:34,270
Like somebody's saying, oh no, I go through some,

549
00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:35,310
kind of like,

550
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:37,690
short-term rental, kind of gray.

551
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:38,770
I'm very calm.

552
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:41,490
Gray, so it's not just Airbnb, VRBO,

553
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:43,750
but some of these ancillary,

554
00:41:44,030 --> 00:41:45,030
I can't remember the new one,

555
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:46,770
but the new ones coming up,

556
00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:48,950
where people are doing the thing.

557
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:53,110
I think that those compliance software can be used

558
00:41:53,830 --> 00:41:58,510
Those are time for websites and then they're always updating to see what's new.

559
00:41:59,990 --> 00:42:04,890
There could be some that we miss that are private websites, like personal private websites.

560
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:12,330
Yeah, that's not a long time. I'm kind of businesses, but they're suddenly brought up a name to me the other day that I'd never even heard of before.

561
00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:15,610
I'm fortunate right now, but I'll find out with that name as well.

562
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:22,350
So I'm wondering if there's, because once again, as with a business, if you've got two businesses are successful, there's more businesses that are gonna offer.

563
00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:29,370
Well, like our neighbors are just sure, but they use the site that's like the it was only a house. That's a locally owned thing.

564
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:41,870
So we submitted to the board for a different software for post-compliance that looks at more than just the meter 10 that we do like not do.

565
00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:48,810
Even when we demoed with them they searched and the numbers were only a little bit higher.

566
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:58,490
I want to say to get up to maybe 110 something like that, but that software also if we find out about the local

567
00:42:59,930 --> 00:43:04,070
The local site or something you can tell them and they will add it into their search

568
00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:11,110
Yeah, so when we look at our short-term run post and person the one that

569
00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:15,770
Talk about this a lot more than I can she ran that program for a long time. So

570
00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:25,850
So right now there's 93 listings, a lot of choice between, you know, the old 90s and, like, 150, 150 sets.

571
00:43:27,010 --> 00:43:31,270
Out of all of those, there are only five that are not compliant.

572
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:39,310
And it will make one of those, because I don't have that application in there.

573
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:45,010
So we have a very high compliance rate, that's one of the true alternatives.

574
00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:48,570
to this. It's something we're constantly monitoring.

575
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:54,150
How much time do you spend on short-term

576
00:43:54,150 --> 00:44:03,870
rentals? It depends. I mean I look at probably myself spend maybe an hour a week just looking

577
00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:09,590
at our goals and goals software just saying if there's anything new, any complaints that have

578
00:44:09,590 --> 00:44:12,990
to come in, which is pretty limited, as far as I may.

579
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:17,430
One of our staff members is now responsible

580
00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:20,610
for renewing new applications that come in.

581
00:44:22,450 --> 00:44:26,190
Checking to see when current permits are going to expire,

582
00:44:26,590 --> 00:44:28,070
working with the applicants to make sure

583
00:44:28,070 --> 00:44:30,450
where to go out, see if they're still renting

584
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,330
and get moving forward with the application.

585
00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:34,270
So these have a little bit more time,

586
00:44:34,810 --> 00:44:37,290
but it is a pretty business-wise streamline.

587
00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:39,350
How much is it for a permit?

588
00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:42,770
It's $300 for a one year permit.

589
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:43,690
Good.

590
00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:46,710
When they have to renew, is there an inspection?

591
00:44:47,290 --> 00:44:49,470
We do an inspection for every rent level.

592
00:44:49,630 --> 00:44:50,630
We didn't use to.

593
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:54,850
But we only used to inspect the larger houses,

594
00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:57,990
so if they can have an occupancy greater than 12,

595
00:44:58,770 --> 00:44:59,970
then they have to get a special permit.

596
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:29,280
And that's just a way for the town to make sure these larger rentals aren't going to have a negative impact on the neighbors. Those are the only ones that we wouldn't expect. Which didn't really make sense to me. I felt like I'm a fire safety standpoint. I should get into all of it. So we don't expect all of them, but it's usually a pretty quick 15 minute inspection. We're just checking for, you know, fire signatures and some sales.

597
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,260
Other than the $300 per minute, is there any other revenue generated for the town?

598
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:35,480
No.

599
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,060
We'd like to finish that.

600
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,940
I don't know.

601
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,540
I'm through and spending all this time.

602
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:41,980
So I say, yes, full time job.

603
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,400
Yeah, I'll jump in on this.

604
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:53,560
So we're the only county in the state that is not allowed currently to charge an occupancy tax for

605
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,940
children on the county level or on the town level.

606
00:45:56,940 --> 00:46:03,460
So if something that we've had discussions about internally here, I had discussions with

607
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:10,700
Pam Helming, our State Senator and Bill Womens, who's the chairman of the Forest Supervisors

608
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:22,320
and Tuesday, one of the committees that I don't sit on, but I attended the meeting because

609
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:50,620
this is not public for me, they approved through committee, which will then get voted on next Thursday, a resolution asking our state senator to go to, it all has to be approved in all of the, for her to carry forward, which is not yet been willing to do, but hopefully this year she is more motivated to do so.

610
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:59,560
carried forward a resolution allowing the county to charge up to a 6% tax. My

611
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:05,220
handshake agreement with Mr. Wilman is that if the county gets 6% we get

612
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:11,320
the cap of that that is generated by R2. Is that sales tax? There should be an

613
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,820
occupancy. Same as the hotel's charts. So the folks that we're talking about here

614
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:18,800
where they're doing short-term root posts.

615
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:21,620
You know, Chris and I sat down, Dan and I sat down,

616
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,280
had lengthy discussions about it.

617
00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:26,500
So, of the 100, the time I was 103, so it's like 106 now.

618
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:28,260
So, I don't know about the other three,

619
00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:31,180
but of those 103, two months ago,

620
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,040
only three of them were over-occupied.

621
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:38,680
So, those three is like, I used to do out of my house.

622
00:47:39,220 --> 00:47:40,160
I ran it up my basement,

623
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,840
where I ran it up my room or whatever,

624
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:42,680
but I'm living in the house.

625
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:45,240
The other 100 are second homes.

626
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:48,980
These are people that have enough money that they've got to say to them, there's a business

627
00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:49,680
that they're running.

628
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:56,200
But we are not receiving any revenue from this business outside of $300 a year fee.

629
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:56,800
Right?

630
00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:58,240
We're not getting an occupancy tax.

631
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:05,280
Nobody is because we've been precluded at the state level.

632
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:10,520
And so everyone's getting, you stay in a hotel anywhere, you stay to Ben Breakfast or

633
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,940
there'll be anywhere else in the world you're paying an occupancy tax.

634
00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:20,200
So, I see the number I've ran, the numbers I've done, so go back to those hundred, under

635
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:26,260
their second home, second homes, 50 of which are owned by people outside of the state.

636
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,580
Because the Zargma is like, oh, we're actually our homeowners.

637
00:48:30,060 --> 00:48:33,860
Well, these are not homeowners because they're second homeowners and businesses that are

638
00:48:33,860 --> 00:48:34,100
running.

639
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:36,960
And half the people aren't even living in our community.

640
00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:41,180
They're owned by people that live in some other state, and it's a business that they're

641
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:45,360
running in our town that we are receiving no outside of our $300, you know what I'm saying?

642
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:53,260
In talking to like a friend that I talked to you about before once the hotel 1892 on Main Street

643
00:48:53,260 --> 00:48:58,440
which is really, really short to our rentals and they use saying that they don't want the people

644
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,700
wanting the property of aren't paying it, which is so they don't care. Right. And he said generally

645
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:08,020
for them, like people aren't in town for vacation or weddings and you pay it in every hotel you stay at

646
00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:15,220
It's like nobody ever objects that at all exactly and the quick numbers I ran and something else with the real numbers

647
00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:18,920
I think it's a couple hundred thousand dollars right now the the highest rate

648
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:25,600
I think that we looked at the lowest rate was $100 like for room the highest rate was $3,600 at night

649
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,780
And and that's just

650
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,760
Somebody's paying $3,600 a night to stay at a to rent a house on the lake

651
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:40,020
They can pay another 3% and it could be like 6% so it should be 5% that we get 3%

652
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,980
So in a quarter to 300 grand a year for the town probably, right?

653
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:46,600
This shows the mean daily rate up here and they're recording up there.

654
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,440
Mine are 30.

655
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,240
Oh yeah, it's honors.

656
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:48,920
Right.

657
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:55,860
And so their direct competition with our hotels, that's what people don't understand.

658
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Right, and they're paying the occupancy tag where they're going to tell, and that's that

659
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,280
point.

660
00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:01,340
Yeah, it is.

661
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,160
Yeah.

662
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:18,320
And so we believe that there is momentum currently within the county, but the county has asked us before, and it's not happened, but it's on our radar because once we're, we're, why are we?

663
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,600
But it's not far from getting a situation where there's no need.

664
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,020
But I think it was very probably, you know,

665
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,080
to when people write, or some value, whatever that's there.

666
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,120
But for whatever reason, and for whatever reason,

667
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:33,740
our local legislators have not been willing

668
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:36,000
to carry this forward up until this point.

669
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,280
And so we're hoping at this point that they're

670
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,600
in a different mindset.

671
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,820
And so I'm more of falling at, but it's your question

672
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:48,200
was right on, I mean, are we getting any other

673
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:59,000
The answer currently is no, the answer hopefully a year from now will be yes and once again, this is money and the party argument of, well, this is taxing our people whatever new.

674
00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:10,560
No, it's taxing our people not to be charging this because we're going to, because generally that the money in other areas is gone towards tourism, whatever drugs, whatever.

675
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,200
but we're spending at my own parts.

676
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,340
So if we don't have to spend the 200,000,

677
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,220
we could actually reduce the tax burden.

678
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,260
So we're actually taxing our people,

679
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,920
because we're doing this stuff anyway.

680
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:25,340
By not giving us this revenue source,

681
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,260
we're actually taxing our people versus taxing our people

682
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:29,600
by putting the tax in place.

683
00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:32,500
So I think you just heard what our costs are

684
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:33,340
that we get $300.

685
00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:36,020
Do you think we cost us more than $300?

686
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:39,360
So well, once a year, the software to administer all that.

687
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:46,520
So we're negative on this. We're actually cost us money. How much money is up the county? It's got to be a lot

688
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,380
Yeah, but some of the word I think it's not every black talk is actually kind of it

689
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,360
It's pounds or sound cities can plug in Ontario County

690
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,340
Cockpit's attack. It's towns that are not I don't have the ability to play

691
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:05,160
It's crazy, right? Yeah, that makes it even crazier to be so yeah, it's so crazy part of the reason why I

692
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:10,960
We're plus another zone officer, twenty-five-seven buttons, so we're going to have to call

693
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:17,460
out the town more or mine, so everybody's getting passed more for our new position versus

694
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,920
allowing the oxygen tax for the person who's actually paying to stay at that location.

695
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:24,440
People like you, it's not a good resume.

696
00:52:25,420 --> 00:52:25,580
Right.

697
00:52:26,140 --> 00:52:28,000
Well, and like you say, they're running a business in a neighborhood.

698
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,280
Yeah, they really are.

699
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:34,420
Yeah, I mean, you've found a warrant and they said they are your second.

700
00:52:34,420 --> 00:52:38,620
going for it, because all the short and hard turns are going to be done.

701
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,180
You know, if definitely a lot of work that goes into firm rentals,

702
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,660
we pay a lot in software too to help us be more efficient.

703
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:52,320
But we're in the negative, because it's a bit of a set.

704
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:58,980
I'm also curious to see how many police calls are called in to short-term rent rates.

705
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,520
Is there another difference there?

706
00:53:01,860 --> 00:53:07,700
And I would argue if we're not able to pass this, where we're actually able to benefit

707
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:12,460
from the short-term rentals, then we should actually consider, I don't know whether it's

708
00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:18,800
everybody considered to pass a moratorium, because if more and more houses are being taken

709
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,680
up for this, which, once again, means that we have less inventory, which means the houses

710
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:29,780
are driven up, which means that our employees can't live in our town, and my daughter has

711
00:53:29,780 --> 00:53:34,080
live in Rochester then you know we have to look at something else because if we're not getting

712
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:41,080
anything out of it but we're actually having a burden and a penalty to the rest of our community

713
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:48,050
and that's something to be concerned. It's a big big topic and big discussion but you know frankly

714
00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:53,050
it's something that a year from now if we don't have success in Albany it's something that

715
00:53:53,050 --> 00:53:53,770
that would suit us.

716
00:53:56,090 --> 00:53:57,190
That would be absolutely.

717
00:53:58,350 --> 00:54:01,930
There are any other questions about the report that we sent out, or whatever, do we answer

718
00:54:01,930 --> 00:54:02,590
your question, too?

719
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:02,750
Yeah.

720
00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:03,150
Okay.

721
00:54:04,490 --> 00:54:05,110
All right.

722
00:54:05,290 --> 00:54:05,710
Go back up.

723
00:54:05,870 --> 00:54:09,030
We'll skip back up to the comprehensive plan video.

724
00:54:09,530 --> 00:54:09,790
All right.

725
00:54:10,010 --> 00:54:16,190
So, in the attachments that's out, comprehensive plan, that's another very, very large document.

726
00:54:16,530 --> 00:54:18,670
Let's take away the other document.

727
00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:20,270
I did plan it to you guys.

728
00:54:20,270 --> 00:54:26,470
of what the comprehensive plan says this committee should be focused on.

729
00:54:27,550 --> 00:54:30,950
So, I give you the 4-page document.

730
00:54:33,010 --> 00:54:37,230
So, just looking at the priorities of this group,

731
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:44,750
supporting development, supporting affordable housing for local workforce.

732
00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:52,570
I mean, I didn't really talk about that one enough today, but it's a priority for this group.

733
00:54:55,270 --> 00:55:01,290
Then some secondary stuff on page two that is a lead for this group.

734
00:55:01,630 --> 00:55:06,290
It is working with the schools and partnerships or skilled trades.

735
00:55:08,330 --> 00:55:14,410
as you think that that's a thing that we could probably be looking at, and you look at

736
00:55:14,410 --> 00:55:19,830
it at partnering with somebody else at both of these, and when they're having them come

737
00:55:19,830 --> 00:55:26,130
in and talk about what they do, and maybe what the talent can help make a good option.

738
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:33,690
This strong out there for the group to think about, and this is really just for the group

739
00:55:33,690 --> 00:55:39,430
to think about what directions that you want to go and then you can come in and I can try to

740
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:47,990
facilitate those further coming meetings. The bottom three of page two and you can see those are

741
00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:58,350
all led by this group redeveloping of the vacant buildings. What's our plan there? What does that

742
00:55:58,350 --> 00:56:02,110
looked like. Because some of the avenue with Baker buildings is

743
00:56:02,110 --> 00:56:05,410
saying you should already have power or had power at one point. So

744
00:56:06,070 --> 00:56:10,970
power isn't usually when we redevelop a vacant building. A lot

745
00:56:10,970 --> 00:56:16,510
of discussion has been. We're big last used to be.

746
00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:21,790
Then Plaza. What do we do there? How can we help that? If you have

747
00:56:21,790 --> 00:56:22,630
that sense on our.

748
00:56:24,370 --> 00:56:26,530
And if we had meetings with them,

749
00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:27,790
you know, that they can see.

750
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:28,570
We have not yet.

751
00:56:29,070 --> 00:56:33,130
I had some short conversations with them.

752
00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:35,770
Obviously, when you have sports in Lano,

753
00:56:36,010 --> 00:56:37,670
it's going from that, okay.

754
00:56:38,530 --> 00:56:40,110
We, from a code point of view,

755
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:41,470
we've had some issues like,

756
00:56:41,710 --> 00:56:43,110
we have a sphere Halloween there

757
00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:44,730
and that flies the right now,

758
00:56:44,810 --> 00:56:46,070
there's a temporary there.

759
00:56:46,850 --> 00:56:49,190
Well, there's some sprinkler issues in there.

760
00:56:49,650 --> 00:56:51,750
I mean, the building isn't in the rated shade.

761
00:56:52,990 --> 00:56:54,010
That's part of the whole.

762
00:56:54,550 --> 00:56:55,250
What do we do?

763
00:56:56,010 --> 00:56:59,710
I mean, some of their tenants aren't big tenants.

764
00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:04,450
And did you look for a big kind of that could come in there and maybe house a bit.

765
00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:08,530
So his is a line line out of town very well.

766
00:57:10,590 --> 00:57:11,450
Yeah, it's not.

767
00:57:13,710 --> 00:57:17,410
So have we ever done a study or is it pertinent to a study?

768
00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:21,350
I picture different places that I've been to in other areas,

769
00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:25,850
but I'll just pick on, so Victor on the opposite side of the street of Mull,

770
00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:31,950
whereas there's, you know, where Walmart is and where there's like little neighborhood of

771
00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:38,590
storage, right? It's been built in in that fashion, where it's like a few nip-a-box, right? And

772
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:48,030
certainly that mini-mull, if you want to call it that, but it's attractive and it's got some good

773
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:51,190
so whatever is busy, right?

774
00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:53,950
The mall is busy, that's really busy.

775
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:57,790
That space seems big enough that we could,

776
00:57:57,990 --> 00:58:01,290
you know, the developer could do a mini mall right there

777
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:05,250
and totally level the place and build a different place.

778
00:58:05,810 --> 00:58:05,950
Right?

779
00:58:06,310 --> 00:58:06,730
Sure.

780
00:58:07,690 --> 00:58:09,750
Well, maybe we can light it on fires.

781
00:58:11,170 --> 00:58:14,910
I think we should do the most common fire out there.

782
00:58:16,490 --> 00:58:22,250
But it seems like if I'm a landlord and I own this property, you don't pay taxes on it.

783
00:58:22,650 --> 00:58:27,810
And I've got, you know, Rainmore, Flanagan, and I've got Smoke Shop and I've got, you

784
00:58:27,810 --> 00:58:28,810
know, to reduction.

785
00:58:29,890 --> 00:58:30,350
You can't re-reduction.

786
00:58:30,350 --> 00:58:30,530
You can't re-reduction.

787
00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:31,510
Well, it's in two months of the year.

788
00:58:31,590 --> 00:58:32,990
I've got a spirit of the Halloween or whatever.

789
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:34,730
I'm not making a lot of money on this.

790
00:58:35,610 --> 00:58:37,790
So, and I, once again, I know that I'm no developer.

791
00:58:38,010 --> 00:58:40,890
I know it's cost a lot of money, I've talked to whatever, spelled me things.

792
00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:48,790
But if we had, if we were part of an economic analysis, it could prove that there is enough

793
00:58:48,790 --> 00:58:54,390
business within Canada, where the Canada, well, I don't want to become any victor, right?

794
00:58:54,970 --> 00:58:59,870
The same token, it's an eye-saur, it's not generating money for the landlord, it's not

795
00:58:59,870 --> 00:59:05,590
generating money for a lot of money for the town, if all of a sudden that could be a well-designed

796
00:59:05,590 --> 00:59:09,510
a beautiful little neighborhood store complex, whatever.

797
00:59:11,210 --> 00:59:12,590
Is that upon us?

798
00:59:12,590 --> 00:59:18,910
Is that upon the committee to say, let's spend $10,000 and do a study on behalf of the

799
00:59:18,910 --> 00:59:25,990
developer to sell them on the idea that if you invest $10 million, $100 million, I don't

800
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:34,130
have no idea what these things are on us, because our area is driving in our community, it gets

801
00:59:34,130 --> 00:59:38,990
all these chores coming in and right now they have to drive to Victor to go to these little

802
00:59:38,990 --> 00:59:40,190
boutique restaurants.

803
00:59:41,110 --> 00:59:48,350
So I think the first step is maybe we can try to see if we can hit the end of the video

804
00:59:48,350 --> 00:59:49,790
with us with our group here.

805
00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:52,230
Ask him what was on-term plans and vision over whatever.

806
00:59:52,450 --> 00:59:56,490
Especially if we've never had a conversation with him or if he would see if he'd come in

807
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:59,790
And I think it would be this group.

808
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:29,580
For those kind of questions. Well, I also think, but if he's an entrepreneur, he made the decision. It's not our place to get involved in business. I know I just talked about race, getting taxes, but there's a direct effect on the community with those specific taxes. This guy made an investment. It should be on him to do that. It shouldn't be the government come in and say, you know, we want to give you money to do it.

809
01:00:29,580 --> 01:00:33,980
But in my opinion, he should have made that decision when he bought the property.

810
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,860
It's not on us to tell him what to do with this property.

811
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:40,000
If he wants to develop, he should develop.

812
01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:42,240
That's how I feel.

813
01:00:42,820 --> 01:00:47,800
I think I know where exactly you're coming from, because I'm not a government guy, right?

814
01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:50,320
You're not talking about 10 million.

815
01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:52,420
You're not talking about 10 million.

816
01:00:52,740 --> 01:00:55,520
That's what you just said.

817
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,220
And there might be something in between.

818
01:00:57,220 --> 01:01:03,620
but it's in the process. So does it from the whole closet? No, it's a

819
01:01:03,620 --> 01:01:07,500
toggle valve and the other thing it's out of front, right? But it isn't

820
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,660
there in an auto parts in one of those things, so it goes down and down. So no

821
01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:13,320
shine, you're not getting it. Yeah, drive me not to put it on your

822
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:27,200
side. Right now. I want it to be made. Let's look at the

823
01:01:28,180 --> 01:01:37,040
right now. Right now to build two more stores out front. So, I think, yeah. So, yeah.

824
01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:44,380
Tom has to do that by their landlord. Well, that's why I want to have the discussion right

825
01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:48,480
because these are passively sitting here and let the thing just sit there being I start

826
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:53,280
to the town and not generate all or do we, is there a place in government? That's a question.

827
01:01:53,280 --> 01:02:05,560
Is there a place within government and within this committee to somehow at least at a very minimum have a conversation and a very maximum be involved in being part of the solution process?

828
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:05,840
Sure.

829
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:12,660
Because otherwise, I mean, again, you know, I'm Wilma Wright and you're the town is now.

830
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:20,520
The town of Canada, everyone now is building a development directly competing against me.

831
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,920
I'm not so good with that.

832
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,480
Right, and I know we're about to be partners

833
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,260
with Elmer, right?

834
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,200
We're about to own them all.

835
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,720
So I mean, there's probably a conflict there.

836
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,760
So I would just say, hey, you can't pick and choose.

837
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,600
Like, my biggest competitor is New York State, right?

838
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,960
When you guys put a show on, a firework show,

839
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,080
you're directly competitive.

840
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,700
Can't do anything about that.

841
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,620
But when the city of Rochester puts a free music show on,

842
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:48,380
it's directly convening against me.

843
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,420
It's coming from the state.

844
01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:53,480
And now we got to just choose and pick and choose like is the government

845
01:02:54,140 --> 01:03:00,740
Picking and choosing what business is to succeed and as an entrepreneur who's biggest competitors here state kind of sucks

846
01:03:00,740 --> 01:03:06,060
And so my thing is like among Wilmer and I'm pissed off. You're really you're literally going to steal my

847
01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:12,820
Potential, you know, customers. I think the first step which is a game

848
01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:16,860
especially the day I had when I first came and I had

849
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:20,980
great miscommunities really just figure out where we cover

850
01:03:20,980 --> 01:03:25,540
vacant locations and bring in the owners in and figure

851
01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:27,840
find out what their challenges are.

852
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:28,960
You know, fill in that.

853
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:31,040
And if it has, if any of the challenges are

854
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:36,760
given to town procedures or processes, then that's

855
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,700
where we would be involved.

856
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:39,260
There.

857
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:47,020
We're trying to clear any curve around there are any if town is the cause for these areas not to go war if it's

858
01:03:47,620 --> 01:03:49,940
And if it ties into the house and the shoot this

859
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:53,500
This is won't come in if there's no housing for their

860
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,980
Bullies or are they they're not going to get this whole that whole area is a whole

861
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,460
At all the required that think that a partner here could cope well

862
01:04:03,180 --> 01:04:07,780
Because think it would also be difficult. I'm not a business person or a business

863
01:04:07,780 --> 01:04:15,740
But I'm looking for a location and I see an area with a ton of empty buildings probably not where I'm choosing for my business

864
01:04:16,540 --> 01:04:24,080
You know, because that whole old Walmart plaza. I think the huge ice work. I was soon running for running on the end

865
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,860
Yeah, they're driving down their own like empty empty empty empty empty. No, I'll go to victory

866
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,760
No, that's the town. That's that's us with the whole ready what running to us

867
01:04:37,780 --> 01:04:47,540
10 is the only thing east of it is so water becomes kind of nice, so no new town home

868
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:48,100
behind.

869
01:04:50,140 --> 01:04:53,500
Well, that's what I was saying earlier, so it's a creek boat or a creek site or whatever

870
01:04:53,500 --> 01:04:59,080
the little section is down in Canada, and then we're about to stream our farm stone sub

871
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,920
about it all, stuff over there is so well, but they're building it's a few hundred, you

872
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,360
know, it's epic.

873
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:19,800
I personally do think though to Don's point is important to look into all that I own some property on that side of town and in the past five years I've seen some big changes of things that I'm not happy about.

874
01:05:20,140 --> 01:05:30,560
Just yesterday I was walking out of my property and was welcomed by a homeless person asking me for money and I'll be honest with you that's not the first time I've heard that.

875
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:36,900
I've heard that from other people and that's not a great thing to be having in our community.

876
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:42,200
People aren't going to want to continue to go to that business as they're landlord.

877
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:49,120
I'm taking care of it with them, but it's concerning because if people are coming to our area

878
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,880
or living our area and want to go to these establishments, I don't really want to go back there.

879
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:18,590
I don't get it all the time in the city, I think that's a bigger issue.

880
01:06:21,980 --> 01:06:27,180
What I was told behind the Bolero area, that's where they're all the way.

881
01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:28,440
homeless people are living, right?

882
01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:35,290
It's just where in the woods being in the ballroom,

883
01:06:35,550 --> 01:06:36,850
or the ballroom, bowling, you know.

884
01:06:37,070 --> 01:06:38,550
Yeah, well, I really, by Walmart

885
01:06:38,550 --> 01:06:42,730
and then what, a little community at homeless people.

886
01:06:43,130 --> 01:06:43,710
Oh, wow.

887
01:06:43,850 --> 01:06:47,090
And by little, I think it's what I was told

888
01:06:47,090 --> 01:06:48,150
that I've never been like that.

889
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:48,850
Wow.

890
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:53,370
I think it's a bigger issue for sure.

891
01:06:53,770 --> 01:06:59,160
I don't, I don't think the issue is the way

892
01:06:59,160 --> 01:06:59,960
the buildings look.

893
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,660
I think the issue is more society, it's the worst.

894
01:07:02,660 --> 01:07:09,580
I think what we can tell with this committee, the time being starts small with getting

895
01:07:09,580 --> 01:07:17,520
a meeting with this, with the owner potentially parting with Hope Well and the owners of the

896
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:24,600
Walmart and seeing what are the issues with getting tenants and what is the problem.

897
01:07:24,860 --> 01:07:30,780
My guess is he's got some issues with tenants because he owns some property and Victor 96

898
01:07:30,780 --> 01:07:38,940
and he redid it all and it was a doctor's office and a salon and so my

899
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:44,200
guess is he said issues getting tenants I can't speak for him but and when you

900
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,500
start to get one type of tenant you're not going to get other times like I know

901
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:55,740
my flower shop isn't going to go next to a cannon bottle store and you know

902
01:07:55,740 --> 01:07:57,980
you're not gonna get those ones that

903
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,120
there's so many over the bush

904
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:04,700
don't eat sore my flower shop

905
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:07,220
you know just insert

906
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,960
you would think it would go together

907
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,060
in the planet but

908
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,760
it's been a day

909
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,220
and you say absolutely

910
01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:15,580
one word is still on that

911
01:08:15,580 --> 01:08:16,420
property

912
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,740
so the whole world

913
01:08:18,740 --> 01:08:20,800
or you should know

914
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,240
no I think the

915
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,960
that gentleman that owns big glasses, let's say, start to the pee.

916
01:08:28,460 --> 01:08:29,300
The other one.

917
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,740
I don't know what that is.

918
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:30,800
I don't know what that is.

919
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:31,240
The running's bad.

920
01:08:31,780 --> 01:08:34,720
You think you also got, anytime finished, too, we've got to address.

921
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:35,400
Yeah.

922
01:08:35,780 --> 01:08:36,360
That's the model.

923
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,760
No, they're getting off the line.

924
01:08:38,060 --> 01:08:38,620
No front.

925
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,720
That's the pee's not front, too.

926
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:43,340
No, good.

927
01:08:43,340 --> 01:08:47,920
I think those conversations, yeah, I think that's a great starting point to say

928
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:53,500
the conversations and find out what's in our readestumbin block is the economy

929
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:59,760
of what is stomach block and if once can, if it's stuff that's within our real house of its

930
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,800
code issues, it's whatever, that'll be easy for us to work on. If it's other stuff, I'm not big,

931
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:10,780
you know, you know, the government getting involved and it's rising people, but if we can,

932
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,760
and once again, it's because then I have to turn off my private sector brain. Yeah.

933
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:22,640
You know, if we've, if we can help facilitate it somehow to make it more attractive,

934
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:27,380
And more revenue, you know, coming in and that seems like it's a good thing for the town.

935
01:09:27,380 --> 01:09:31,460
Well, it's an encouraging that it seems to be thriving across the street there too.

936
01:09:31,660 --> 01:09:32,360
Sure. Yeah.

937
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,260
It sounds like the landlord doesn't want to bring money into his building.

938
01:09:35,540 --> 01:09:35,740
Right.

939
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,200
I mean,

940
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,340
Well, it's a problem.

941
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:40,700
Sure.

942
01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:42,180
Well, that's, again,

943
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,640
I mean, there's such a lot of stuff.

944
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,120
And that's, and that's where then we look at, you know, if it's a landlord problem,

945
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:48,660
then what do we do on town side?

946
01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:49,580
Starts.

947
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:50,780
Start hitting.

948
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:51,480
Yeah.

949
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:54,680
things happen right. We're gonna start heading in. Where have they taught you about

950
01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:00,780
putting new, new, new spawns in there. We're out of the blue. Right right right this

951
01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:07,160
Halloween like the post so far. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Teaching acts. Yeah.

952
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,760
I'm saying like what happened. There was like an interesting thing. Right. Right up. Right.

953
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:18,820
Obviously it took five. We're gonna hurry back. Yeah. We're like it's coming. I'm sure

954
01:10:18,820 --> 01:10:22,440
So I think that she's late three probably died when they put one in victim back.

955
01:10:26,060 --> 01:10:28,720
So to circle back to the answer.

956
01:10:30,380 --> 01:10:31,860
She's playing against.

957
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:34,800
We are doing it.

958
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:43,820
The last two on age two, I think it's exactly what we're just going to talk about.

959
01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:45,960
Not working opportunities.

960
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,020
We love the businesses and stakeholders.

961
01:10:48,020 --> 01:10:56,480
And that's exactly what we're going to try to do, and ensuring local regulations and programs support the businesses,

962
01:10:56,900 --> 01:11:00,720
bringing businesses in to make sure that we support what they're doing.

963
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:08,020
I think that that's exactly, again, from the comprehensive plan I feel that we're on the right direction,

964
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:11,380
just having two meetings of what we've gone over.

965
01:11:11,380 --> 01:11:16,340
And it's just terms in my head that I think is appropriate.

966
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,360
So you know, it's these chapel, the chapel, the chapel.

967
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:29,400
So her job in running the bid, she doesn't own the businesses, but she, her job is to

968
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,340
encourage businesses to come in and fill up downtown.

969
01:11:33,820 --> 01:11:35,020
She has a fantastic job.

970
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,380
And so it wouldn't be a bad idea for her to come in.

971
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:39,660
She owns a couple of them.

972
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:40,880
She owns a couple of them.

973
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,760
right. So many people in this one as well have, you know, vested interest, but we also have

974
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:52,000
global interest. And so she has invested and especially also as a global interest of her job.

975
01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:58,000
Her job is to make sure that those storefronts are full and identifying, okay, do we have too many

976
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:03,260
read shops, okay? But we don't have, or whatever, you know, I'm involved in the farmer's market,

977
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:07,240
we're like identifying, okay, we don't have a kombucha guy, but we'd be good for the farmer's

978
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:10,580
So we go out there and try to find it, can't boot you guys.

979
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,100
And so it might be worthwhile to sit down with her

980
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:15,860
whatever and find out what her strategy is,

981
01:12:15,940 --> 01:12:17,680
even though it may be competitive with her,

982
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,220
because she's trying to fill up downtown.

983
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:20,420
We're trying to help.

984
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,840
But once you have it having the conversation with her,

985
01:12:24,580 --> 01:12:27,880
maybe we identify this person owns the property

986
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,440
and we're not trying to get too involved,

987
01:12:29,620 --> 01:12:31,740
but we like to help if we can without

988
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,080
financially incentivizing or whatever.

989
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,460
Hey, you know, it appears that you need the community needs on, you know,

990
01:12:39,540 --> 01:12:44,600
another ex-throwing place, right? So, let's find an ex-throwing place, right?

991
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:51,900
So anyway, just since she's got a lot of experience in that world of trying to fill up empty spaces,

992
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,600
but it might be a good idea to sit down.

993
01:12:53,780 --> 01:12:58,260
Where is that? I just saw Facebook. There's a plain land coming.

994
01:12:58,780 --> 01:13:01,200
It's here. That's the actual, that's the extra one.

995
01:13:01,660 --> 01:13:03,400
It's like an arcade too, right?

996
01:13:04,060 --> 01:13:07,660
Well, it's been my dad's building where full sun is moving

997
01:13:07,660 --> 01:13:08,920
after it has moved out.

998
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,040
No, they're in our arcade and next to like

999
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,160
Mark's feeds the rear or something like that.

1000
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:13,880
Over there?

1001
01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:15,720
I don't know, but there's a new plate.

1002
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:16,800
A new plate.

1003
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:17,660
How can I make a plate?

1004
01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:18,000
Yeah.

1005
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:19,800
Playground, playland and some kids.

1006
01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:25,420
It's like an indoor activity thing for people

1007
01:13:25,420 --> 01:13:27,920
to come in and do say, where are that our children?

1008
01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:29,240
It's gonna be where full sun.

1009
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:30,500
Oh right, I'm close to you.

1010
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:35,780
So it's not there. Okay. No, they're going through the approval process city right now. Okay.

1011
01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:38,300
All right. Yeah. That's a big space.

1012
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,840
66. It's gonna be go where it will send us.

1013
01:13:42,060 --> 01:13:43,780
Yeah. That'd be awesome.

1014
01:13:44,020 --> 01:13:49,800
We have a lot of those places like Invictor at the mall where people can bring their children and play inside.

1015
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,040
Indoor, indoor bounce houses and stuff like that. Yeah.

1016
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:55,760
Arcade games and stuff like that. Yep.

1017
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:02,800
But I'm not opposed to obviously helping the landlord, and I definitely think incentives

1018
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:03,320
are great.

1019
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:08,660
As the developer, if I'm developing piece of property, I've always thought like I'm making

1020
01:14:08,660 --> 01:14:13,300
this piece of property better than putting all this investment in, give me a cut on taxes

1021
01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:14,780
or give me a cut on something.

1022
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:21,600
I'm cool with that, but just to push money out with nothing happening, I just don't think

1023
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:21,860
that.

1024
01:14:21,860 --> 01:14:24,060
I don't know, that should just, yeah, that's not the right vote.

1025
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:28,960
But instead of I was a landlord to invest money into our community, it makes all the sense

1026
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,420
of the world.

1027
01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:31,520
But not until it's done.

1028
01:14:31,820 --> 01:14:31,920
Yeah.

1029
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,660
So try not to go first.

1030
01:14:34,900 --> 01:14:36,260
Oh, sorry.

1031
01:14:37,820 --> 01:14:44,640
What would I, just a side note, we keep talking about the city of Canada or Hopewell.

1032
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:51,000
Have we ever thought about expanding this committee to bringing in Hopewell in the city of Canada

1033
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:58,440
day one, I'm born just because I feel like yes this is a candidate, but it's also maybe

1034
01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,960
important because these are our neighbors.

1035
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,080
If we can all get on the same track, and we should be competitors with our neighbors, we ever thought about them again or had to report on the county level. Orion Davis and his team are in charge of basic business development for the county. So at the county level, it exists. We're just now with this committee two weeks and two months in, restarting it at our level. And then there is in between.

1036
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:35,680
there is a thing called the Candega Local Development Committee or

1037
01:15:37,180 --> 01:15:41,180
Corporate Corporation and we just had discussion about them yesterday because

1038
01:15:41,180 --> 01:15:50,460
within Candega, the goal of that was to fill that role a little bit to broaden the

1039
01:15:50,460 --> 01:15:54,700
geography because Candega was Candega, but people they don't know where the

1040
01:15:54,700 --> 01:15:56,540
the line is, the general line is wherever, right?

1041
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,480
And so, and they have not been that successful

1042
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:02,680
at having these discussions.

1043
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:05,160
And so, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be ruled out,

1044
01:16:05,260 --> 01:16:06,720
but it's definitely happening at the county level.

1045
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:09,620
It's now happening at the town level.

1046
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,880
I think that the jury is out,

1047
01:16:14,020 --> 01:16:15,840
well, now there's a middle ground somewhere

1048
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:18,500
that it makes sense right now that middle ground

1049
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,400
doesn't seem to be.

1050
01:16:20,980 --> 01:16:23,200
But we could get Ryan Davis into the justice group.

1051
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,520
he's very willing to come in and talk about stuff and he might he definitely wants to hear from

1052
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,760
from the three percent of the table because that's his job that's what he does I call Ryan every other

1053
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:39,960
month yeah he's he's not off of it yeah he goes a nice job yeah and so um but I think it's a good

1054
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,260
question but I don't know there's some middle point county definitely town definitely

1055
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,280
where you draw the line on the middle ground do you invite hope well do you invite

1056
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,540
I'm not saying every meeting, I'm just saying, we talked about the needs, we talked about

1057
01:16:55,540 --> 01:16:56,100
that as well.

1058
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,620
Maybe it's a wonderful discussion.

1059
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:04,440
Do we know whether Hopewell or Gorm or anybody like that around us has anything like this?

1060
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:05,440
I know Gorm.

1061
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,560
My name is on the Gorm.

1062
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:12,280
I know Gorm does not have everything.

1063
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:19,040
Yeah, Brian's got a good point, though, because I feel like, you know, between home

1064
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,200
well in the city of Canada, you know, in particular, there's a lot overlap with commercial

1065
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:22,500
stuff.

1066
01:17:22,820 --> 01:17:23,580
I mean, I have a big time.

1067
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:27,280
You know, I think, like, there was some discussion when we were building a storage facility

1068
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,200
with more Torians in the town on commercial solar and storage, which we have both.

1069
01:17:32,860 --> 01:17:36,600
You know, I think we've got a lot of some of the businesses that Sarah mentioned earlier

1070
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,140
in the area now.

1071
01:17:38,140 --> 01:17:42,400
there weren't any before just curious like the pit of threshold or saturation point for

1072
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,660
dispensaries and smoke shops and that kind of stuff for

1073
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:50,200
we get to talk to the city and hope all about what they've got going on for

1074
01:17:50,780 --> 01:17:54,160
Right, so maybe maybe as part of this every quarter

1075
01:17:54,780 --> 01:17:59,240
You know that we invite somebody from from each of those municipalities to come in

1076
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,860
Just definitely see as a business person

1077
01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:04,700
Maybe we put our kidneys a bit

1078
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:05,340
Yeah

1079
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:14,140
You have her just come in that she's going for it. I think she would be she's done in the city and see if there is a

1080
01:18:14,140 --> 01:18:21,340
Hi, it's amazing. That's amazing. I choose highly enough. She's ambitious like they're standing out now over on post-Street

1081
01:18:21,340 --> 01:18:28,300
There was like farmers and that's what I didn't realize and told buddy mine bought a building over there. He's like,

1082
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,680
Yes, she asked me what my plans are and I didn't know it was part of like some master points

1083
01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:40,340
So it's because though it's a, I mean, if you hold well or it tells how economic development

1084
01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:46,080
is, they're not quite sure they may be, but we'll surround in towns have standard committees.

1085
01:18:47,620 --> 01:18:54,440
You certainly, you combined meetings with those previously, like, whistle, or law districts and stuff,

1086
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:59,440
so you should matter, fine, or even have going on on a state, having somebody,

1087
01:19:07,940 --> 01:19:18,800
Yeah, I'm actually with the code officer, I hope that was for my next meeting today, so I can talk to him and see

1088
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,220
That's a fun many loved ones.

1089
01:19:22,420 --> 01:19:24,180
If I can get a word in with them?

1090
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:33,000
I will ask him about, yeah, I mean it goes back to saying like, you know, my project lies

1091
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:38,140
heavily in Hopewell on Canada, but we've talked about, we've had how many meetings here.

1092
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,400
I need sewer to come from Canada to get to my property.

1093
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:48,340
So I mean, it seems like there's still a lot of energy there.

1094
01:19:48,340 --> 01:19:53,220
that you should be talking about as more than just the time.

1095
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,300
There's still some work that's the issue there's some time there.

1096
01:19:57,540 --> 01:20:02,060
We think about like this, the residents, they send their kids from whole

1097
01:20:02,060 --> 01:20:05,100
world, don't they go to Canada? It depends on where you're from.

1098
01:20:05,980 --> 01:20:09,200
Yeah, they're either with a jacket or...

1099
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,780
Oh, so this place, it's split up. Depends on where you're at.

1100
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:13,120
Yeah.

1101
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:13,260
Yeah.

1102
01:20:14,260 --> 01:20:18,600
So really, this one that I printed out for you,

1103
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,700
you can look at for the economic development.

1104
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,740
What our responsibilities are,

1105
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,620
but I hit on the top one street guys,

1106
01:20:26,820 --> 01:20:29,340
which I feel that just from the discussion today,

1107
01:20:29,620 --> 01:20:31,380
we're covering a lot of them.

1108
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:32,180
Yeah.

1109
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,480
And once again, we're going into a plan review

1110
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:37,340
for the next 10 years.

1111
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,060
So a chance for this group to play a role

1112
01:20:41,060 --> 01:20:44,300
and say the direction for the next ten years.

1113
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,300
Absolutely. So, is there any questions in regards to the

1114
01:20:48,300 --> 01:20:50,240
God's plan for the exhibition I sent out?

1115
01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:57,670
All right, move on to the last one, the development of activity.

1116
01:20:58,190 --> 01:21:02,810
Yeah, so, my smart PR code office has been available,

1117
01:21:03,050 --> 01:21:04,770
babies has been out for training.

1118
01:21:06,190 --> 01:21:11,050
We put together this report, and then Kristen and I added

1119
01:21:11,050 --> 01:21:23,270
a little bit, but it's just the major projects underway for in planning. Just a real high overview

1120
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:31,550
here because we're going to a little one. Active Evergreen, they're doing a bunch of activities

1121
01:21:31,550 --> 01:21:40,310
over there over the next year to two years. They're doing a lot of upgrades. You can see the project's

1122
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:47,470
federal and anticipated permits, a few sets there.

1123
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,830
They're doing a clean run project inside their current building.

1124
01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:57,810
This is a very large project inside.

1125
01:21:58,270 --> 01:22:00,850
It just allows them to do additional work there.

1126
01:22:02,470 --> 01:22:05,990
We also had Jake's landscaping and art state.

1127
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:12,310
They got playing board approval for a new facility on brickyard road right across from the airport

1128
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:15,890
Actually right across some mercy place

1129
01:22:19,450 --> 01:22:21,710
Uh, a nail salon

1130
01:22:21,710 --> 01:22:31,480
On room 332 that Mike's been working on this work without permits

1131
01:22:32,180 --> 01:22:36,700
So he's working through that the fairgrounds is promoting another building

1132
01:22:37,540 --> 01:22:43,760
Which is great to see that they're continuing to update the interior of county fairgrounds.

1133
01:22:43,860 --> 01:22:46,580
Self-power on county road age.

1134
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:54,160
Mobile road improvements there that's, I think what we were talking about,

1135
01:22:56,100 --> 01:23:01,180
that trying to do something temporary there until Daimaneker hopefully gets approved,

1136
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,040
and that all around can be updated.

1137
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,300
And I'm going to get more involved with that, sir, to try to get to where you need to be.

1138
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,600
The airport, we did an imminent slow agreement with the Ontario County.

1139
01:23:15,380 --> 01:23:18,120
The County and the IDA run the airport.

1140
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:25,180
We were doing instructions out there, but the new agreement is that Ontario County will be doing all instructions out there.

1141
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:37,920
sell as a vet center, that just got re-approved at the planning board. Hopefully we'll see that moving forward at some point. Let's say no live night.

1142
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:45,140
Like my building that I have just a space for commercial use.

1143
01:23:45,140 --> 01:23:46,580
I'm not saying.

1144
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,760
Oh, so listen to this.

1145
01:23:49,820 --> 01:23:51,240
I want to talk to you about this.

1146
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:52,000
Yes.

1147
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,600
Anybody that wants to have me?

1148
01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:56,580
This is like a DIY spot.

1149
01:23:56,820 --> 01:23:57,500
You're going to have to be there.

1150
01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:00,240
So facilitate the, you know, or, you know, stand like,

1151
01:24:00,340 --> 01:24:02,300
or they run into the space and say, here, here you go.

1152
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,520
I'll be back.

1153
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:04,240
Yeah.

1154
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:05,540
You know, at the end of the event.

1155
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:06,120
Cut out.

1156
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:06,520
Cut out.

1157
01:24:07,820 --> 01:24:08,220
Okay.

1158
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,600
You know, we're excited to see that.

1159
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,920
and that's the space. I think that's another fair that we can have for

1160
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:23,400
the bringing weddings, weddings bringing tourists. Absolutely. And have a good spend

1161
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,740
money. That's right. You can see a walk around town all the time.

1162
01:24:27,260 --> 01:24:35,280
On your planning boards we review, we have wide-water classes that we talk about

1163
01:24:36,220 --> 01:24:39,360
building and commercial building. That's under review.

1164
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:45,100
Gerber shoveled a lot as looking to you a

1165
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,360
audition that will be coming in front of the

1166
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:49,920
planning board.

1167
01:24:51,580 --> 01:24:52,080
Next one.

1168
01:24:55,140 --> 01:24:59,120
Gerber Honda is looking to do a parking lot

1169
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,600
and a new building.

1170
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,780
on Route 332 and those out of their current building.

1171
01:25:05,420 --> 01:25:08,380
So that private bus came to us.

1172
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,480
I would imagine in about two months

1173
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:13,540
that will be in front of the planning board.

1174
01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:17,080
County Road 4, sewer lift station.

1175
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:22,460
This is a small area, if you know where the baseball fields

1176
01:25:22,460 --> 01:25:25,320
are out there in their backyard.

1177
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,160
It's a small little area that they're

1178
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:27,780
looking to do.

1179
01:25:27,780 --> 01:25:31,140
to the counties looking to do a lift station with the VA.

1180
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,840
This will provide sewer for people out there

1181
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,080
that are on topic, also for the Congress next,

1182
01:25:37,820 --> 01:25:39,980
but it also helps the VA with their sewer.

1183
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:46,160
The Paul facility, they just got an extension

1184
01:25:47,140 --> 01:25:50,120
and we've had a long conversation with that

1185
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,560
and they are working to start building next year.

1186
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,420
I'm the next Paul next year.

1187
01:25:56,260 --> 01:26:00,300
So we're excited to hear their schedule, what they're doing and they have another building

1188
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:05,880
not in our area that is going to be the sister building this one, they're getting all

1189
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,480
the kinks worked out and that one burns, and then they're going to build the one here.

1190
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:19,120
So, and then we have diamond acres which will be going back in front of Tom Moore to start

1191
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,620
that process of the reads only.

1192
01:26:21,460 --> 01:26:30,560
So as we talked about that was 239 pound home units, 9 single family homes, many storage and seven commercial lots.

1193
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:33,200
So there's a good mix of everything there.

1194
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:41,020
Country estates, phase one continues for mandatory homes.

1195
01:26:41,940 --> 01:26:44,620
We have 50 papers in the next year, more to come.

1196
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,520
And uptown landing.

1197
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:52,820
again and to talk about that already with the R and G has our issues.

1198
01:26:55,900 --> 01:26:57,340
Questions? Map report.

1199
01:26:58,180 --> 01:27:02,260
Like I thought this is a really high level but I think it's important for this group to know

1200
01:27:02,260 --> 01:27:07,860
some of the big projects that are coming true. But we will continue to do that report.

1201
01:27:09,540 --> 01:27:10,940
Does these guys have it?

1202
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:16,600
There's a great report, and I'd like to ask, I mean, this is already part of the

1203
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,580
Addendum items for the floor meeting.

1204
01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:24,800
But this is, there's be great information for the board to have as well.

1205
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:25,200
Yeah.

1206
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,500
Why do you develop report?

1207
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:29,200
Yeah.

1208
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,660
Because I pop in and out of planning board meetings, and obviously, I'm involved here with a lot of our board members

1209
01:27:35,660 --> 01:27:38,120
and the most of them in the United States.

1210
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:39,840
So this is great for me.

1211
01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:43,100
I was just asked that is added to this,

1212
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,120
like especially where some of these are.

1213
01:27:48,380 --> 01:27:51,740
Some of them have addresses, but then some of them don't.

1214
01:27:52,180 --> 01:27:54,080
And so they can't just be added.

1215
01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:56,600
So I know exactly where they would be.

1216
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:57,940
That would be great.

1217
01:27:58,820 --> 01:28:00,600
My other thought is a question.

1218
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,840
We talked about with the two big guys

1219
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:13,140
that are investing in tribal money and their facilities to build their businesses in our town and their employees.

1220
01:28:13,940 --> 01:28:32,580
You know, you know, high paid jobs in their town that we were going to have some sort of a visit with them to thank them to do whatever to build greater relationship between what they're doing.

1221
01:28:33,660 --> 01:28:35,900
and those buss you within the committee

1222
01:28:35,900 --> 01:28:39,280
or at board level or at the senior staff level.

1223
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,160
I don't know if we're doing anything.

1224
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,300
My thought was, and it's obviously something you might do,

1225
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:48,380
but I was gonna see if they would be willing

1226
01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:51,200
to come in and get a presentation to this group

1227
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,780
so that everybody in economics knows what they're doing

1228
01:28:53,780 --> 01:28:55,480
and then maybe we could figure out,

1229
01:28:55,480 --> 01:28:56,960
maybe at a top board level,

1230
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,520
from sort of a way to recognize them, you know.

1231
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:08,560
is that secret? One of the two big guys I guess attacks us first, but it's secret, the few big guys aren't.

1232
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,060
Acoustic is effective.

1233
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:11,560
Oh, cool.

1234
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:12,060
Yeah.

1235
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:12,820
I'm sorry.

1236
01:29:12,980 --> 01:29:15,480
Excessive businesses, mallacoustic is taking over.

1237
01:29:16,060 --> 01:29:17,260
It's still cold.

1238
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:18,840
I'm supposed to blow over the acoustic.

1239
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:23,040
It's done the last year without paying any pilots or taxes or anything.

1240
01:29:24,020 --> 01:29:26,160
But it's a current owner or it's acoustic.

1241
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:32,380
It's face acts but they're keeping the art keeping glitches.

1242
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,240
And they're changing over to acoustics.

1243
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,460
No, no, no, no, no.

1244
01:29:37,460 --> 01:29:38,740
This is every set of stuff.

1245
01:29:38,820 --> 01:29:40,240
No, all the bouncing all around.

1246
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,660
No, the space acts, the space acts, the acoustics, the travel.

1247
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,820
They're like 18 months.

1248
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:49,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1249
01:29:49,820 --> 01:29:51,780
It has the cardinillas on the left.

1250
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:52,120
The crib.

1251
01:29:52,380 --> 01:29:53,040
They're bankrupt.

1252
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:53,480
Yeah.

1253
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:58,920
They're bought out by SpaceX and the bankruptcy, the pilot.

1254
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,480
I got resolved. They owe all the coostists. We have a claim in for about 10 grand for the pilot payments they've never made. We'll probably never see for the bankruptcy for it. And the IDA, found they haven't closed on on a pilot agreement with new acoustic space X company yet. Me time, they've been zero in taxes. And so I want to go to. Yeah.

1255
01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:31,480
or you have to celebrate them until we actually

1256
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:33,820
have to demolish the smallest component

1257
01:30:33,820 --> 01:30:36,740
manufacturer acquisition of SpaceX instead.

1258
01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:38,860
That's a silly thing, I agree.

1259
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:41,520
But I will reach out to Pacto

1260
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,860
and see if they can increase.

1261
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:44,820
I mean, reach out to Accusa for sure,

1262
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,480
and plus maybe find out where they're going on there.

1263
01:30:48,900 --> 01:30:49,460
I'll let you go.

1264
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,860
Unfortunately, we don't have any control right in County.

1265
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,160
The idea to manage those.

1266
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:06,360
and there's been little communication with us in regards to that process and so we didn't

1267
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:16,820
have to tax it on the role and so that's why we're, I don't know, but yeah, fine, some very

1268
01:31:16,820 --> 01:31:19,980
men certainly, maybe have that discussion too.

1269
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:27,520
So the only question that you guys are learning out of questions about projects is what would

1270
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:28,860
you like to see on the next minutes.

1271
01:31:35,060 --> 01:31:36,320
Again, like that, that's my

1272
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,260
gosh, I definitely like to see any updates on you to do

1273
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,380
development, businesses coming in, that would be great.

1274
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:50,040
The diesel, I would be great for passive people. The next

1275
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:51,600
meeting, the next meeting, the next meeting, the kind of

1276
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,560
community feedback people have had a recent experience of

1277
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,620
the good, I hope you and my yeah, probably should bring in

1278
01:31:57,620 --> 01:32:01,040
the. Yes, I think that now, don't mention somebody, you, you

1279
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,420
were probably going to be here for a week. Yeah, the

1280
01:32:04,420 --> 01:32:07,260
from here and come. Just going to put a leisure.

1281
01:32:09,540 --> 01:32:13,860
They're mostly, well, the next

1282
01:32:19,110 --> 01:32:20,950
meeting should

1283
01:32:20,950 --> 01:32:28,050
be 10-7. I call it 7th, 1st Wednesday of month, 4th, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd,

1284
01:32:28,050 --> 01:32:33,470
3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd,

1285
01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:45,050
3rd,

1286
01:32:47,830 --> 01:32:49,950
I'd like to move from motion forward in Germany.

1287
01:32:50,070 --> 01:32:51,110
Actually, before you do that, just,

1288
01:32:51,570 --> 01:32:52,970
I'd like to thank the three of you.

1289
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:54,430
I was in here for the first meeting.

1290
01:32:55,030 --> 01:32:56,750
I really would like to thank the three of you

1291
01:32:56,750 --> 01:32:58,430
for being willing to do this because,

1292
01:32:59,930 --> 01:33:03,210
you know, it's critical for the growth of our town

1293
01:33:03,650 --> 01:33:04,690
to be growing the right way

1294
01:33:04,690 --> 01:33:09,590
and to have people that are seasoned in various areas.

1295
01:33:10,330 --> 01:33:11,770
You know, it's really, really great.

1296
01:33:13,710 --> 01:33:15,370
And, you know, it's a lot of time on your day.

1297
01:33:15,370 --> 01:33:26,990
so I just personally want to say thank you so much thank you very much

1298
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:36,940
motion if you want anyone opposed anyone it was uh first yeah that's the

1299
01:33:36,940 --> 01:33:39,400
is it's favorite? It's favorite. It's not out of it.

1300
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,000
And we want to vote.

1301
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:43,600
We'll see you in the chart.

1302
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:44,840
Thank you, everybody.

1303
01:33:46,900 --> 01:33:47,580
Thank you, Dan.