1 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,560 The January 12th, 2026 2 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,400 meeting of the Planning Commission of 3 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Canon Falls will come to order. Roll 4 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,120 call. 5 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,840 >> Johnson 6 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,400 >> here. 7 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,319 >> Well, excuse me, Diane Johnson. 8 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:49,680 >> Yes. and Douglas 9 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,879 >> here. Nats 10 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:51,360 >> here. 11 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,319 >> Chad Johnson, 12 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:52,959 >> I'm here. 13 00:03:52,959 --> 00:03:53,599 >> Novak 14 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:54,959 >> here. 15 00:03:54,959 --> 00:03:58,239 >> Okay, the agenda is before us. Um, 16 00:03:58,239 --> 00:04:00,400 motion to approve the agenda as 17 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,120 presented. 18 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,319 >> So moved. 19 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:05,439 >> Motion by Nobach. Second by 20 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:06,319 >> second. 21 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:09,680 >> Not any further discussion. 22 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,560 >> All in favor approving the agenda? I I 23 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,680 >> nay. 24 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,000 >> So moved. Approval of the minutes which 25 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,160 you had in your packet. 26 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,079 Hopefully everybody had a chance to read 27 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:23,520 them. Motion to approve the minutes as 28 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,360 written. 29 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,560 >> So moved. 30 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,320 >> Second. 31 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,600 >> Motion by Noach, second by Johnson. Any 32 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,040 further discussion? All in favor? I 33 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,240 >> oppose. Nay. So moved. There is no 34 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,360 public in input. So we will move on to 35 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 the public hearings. We have one public 36 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,080 hearing for the conditional use permit 37 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,960 for outdoor storage in I2 general 38 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,479 industrial Izzy. 39 00:04:52,479 --> 00:04:54,479 So I'll just give a quick introduction. 40 00:04:54,479 --> 00:04:57,280 So Canudson Construction is looking to 41 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:59,360 get a conditional use permit for outdoor 42 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,000 storage in I2. So up in our industrial 43 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,199 park. Um within I2 district, you do need 44 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:09,199 a cup um in order to do that. Um so 45 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:12,720 storing things, trailers, um buggies, 46 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,039 scaffolding, etc. construction 47 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:18,000 equipment. Um within that site, um 48 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,080 you're given aerial images and then the 49 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,639 plan for the site. Um they have 50 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,479 confirmed that they do meet all the 51 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:27,600 conditions for obtaining a CUP within 52 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,440 that district. So um fencing, the black 53 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,759 top, lighting, all of that stuff. they 54 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:35,280 will be working with the city when 55 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,039 they're ready to pursue the outdoor 56 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:39,120 storage once they're all settled if they 57 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,680 go through um to work with me and the 58 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,479 city to get all those things in. Um so 59 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:46,080 all of the conditions that were in your 60 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,400 packet have been met and they will be 61 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,560 working with us um to do that. So they 62 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,199 do meet all of those conditions. Um 63 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:55,280 within the packet, I'll just give you a 64 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:58,240 quick heads up. you have two resolutions 65 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,960 just so that you can resolution to 66 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,520 approve or deny um after tonight's 67 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,600 hearing. Um so just so you're aware of 68 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,240 that. So we'll open the public hearing 69 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,240 and then after that you can ask me any 70 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,680 questions and we also have some 71 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,680 representatives from Kudson here tonight 72 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,080 too if you have any direct questions for 73 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,400 them as well. 74 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,720 Thank you. 75 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,759 We will open the public hearing on the 76 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:25,520 conditional use permit for outdoor 77 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,720 storage and I2 general industrial at 78 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:38,629 6:33 p.m. Would anyone like to speak? 79 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:42,790 Make sure the mic's on. 80 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,479 It's got a green light. So, Aaron 81 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:46,479 McMahon, Hoffman Street, Canon Falls. 82 00:06:46,479 --> 00:06:48,319 Um, I have no issue with this. I'm just 83 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,080 curious. They are. I did read that 84 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,160 they're going to be storing cranes. I'm 85 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,680 wondering how many stories high the 86 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,840 cranes are and then if there's going to 87 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,600 be a limitation for them to be able to 88 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,759 hang signs off cranes, you know, like 89 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:01,840 political signs, 90 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:05,680 flags, that sort of thing. Thank you. 91 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,150 >> Thank you. 92 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,960 » Other folks that would like to speak to 93 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,039 the at the public hearing. 94 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:18,960 >> Can I just say I think Not yet. 95 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,960 >> Well, with the cranes like Isn't that 96 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,319 freedom of speech? 97 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:23,919 >> We'll address it after. 98 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:25,520 >> Oh, okay. That's how that works. Okay. 99 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,800 >> Unless you're sitting out there, you 100 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,800 can't talk until after we're done. 101 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,720 >> I'll go out there. 102 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,120 >> Okay. 103 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,919 >> Anyone else from the public who would 104 00:07:33,919 --> 00:07:36,720 like to speak at the public hearing? 105 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,639 Any further people wishing to speak? If 106 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:43,199 not, I declare the public hearing closed 107 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:45,199 at 6:34 108 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,440 p.m. 109 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Now the on the agenda it's the 110 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,080 discussion from the planning commission. 111 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Now you may speak Chad. 112 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,160 >> Uh with the cranes is that like you 113 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,000 can't we can't tell them you can't have 114 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,520 this you or that for [clears throat] 115 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,280 like say they have a sign up on their 116 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,960 business, right? That's the freedom of 117 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,440 speech, right? They they want to have a 118 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,080 flag up 119 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,319 >> the content. Yeah. So there would likely 120 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:11,440 still be potential for regulations on 121 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,520 the signs themselves. Time, place, 122 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,400 manner, contents of signs are freedom, 123 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,840 first amended, protected, freedom of 124 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,520 speech uh issue. So the what content is 125 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 on the sign or flag or hanging from from 126 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,599 a crane. That is something that we would 127 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:26,879 not be able to regulate. 128 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:29,280 >> Okay. All right. Just curious. It's not 129 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,599 even an issue. So all right. 130 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:37,120 Then I guess the the other question was 131 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,599 how tall are cranes or how many or is 132 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:48,630 that [clears throat] within the zoning? 133 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,640 » Uh good evening. Uh my name is Tom 134 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,399 Limer, senior vice president with Kudson 135 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:53,839 Construction. To answer your crane 136 00:08:53,839 --> 00:08:55,600 question, most of ours are truck cranes. 137 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,839 They're not tower cranes. So the highest 138 00:08:57,839 --> 00:08:59,760 that we'd ever have that up is fully 139 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,200 extended to maintenance it, but we're 140 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,040 not going to leave it up overnight. if 141 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,880 we ever did hang something from it would 142 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,279 only be at at that point of the of the 143 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,680 crane. So, these aren't tower cranes or 144 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,440 anything like that. They're more truck 145 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,200 cranes where they you'll see them drive 146 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,640 down the road. 147 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,760 >> Thank you. 148 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,839 >> Um I I got a question about the storage 149 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:19,519 containers. Is this kind of like what 150 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:21,680 they have at the mall where it's a bunch 151 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:23,839 of the self it said self storage 152 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:24,399 containers? 153 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,160 >> Yeah, they'll be like ConX boxes. 154 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,240 >> Okay. So, it's nothing containers. 155 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,080 >> Yeah. So to provide a little more 156 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,160 context why we wanted this approval, we are in a purchasing the purchasing 157 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,760 due diligence phase right now to buy 158 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,600 that building and one of the conditions 159 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,279 was we wanted to make sure that we could 160 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:41,760 do outdoor storage in the future. There 161 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,320 might not be any outdoor storage for a 162 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,560 year because there is a current tenant 163 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,080 but we want before we made this 164 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,680 investment we wanted to make sure that 165 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:52,720 we were aligned from the the uh 166 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,240 conditional use permit and what we would 167 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,160 be required to do if we stored outside. 168 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,480 We acknowledged everything that would be 169 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,640 required um through this application 170 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,959 process, but it might not be it could be 171 00:10:02,959 --> 00:10:04,320 six months. It could be a year. I can't 172 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,920 tell you when we'll start storing out 173 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,040 there. We just want to know we have the 174 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,680 flexibility in the future. 175 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,440 >> Okay. I'm going to ask you. So, I'm 176 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,040 looking at the map here. So, there's the 177 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,800 red fencing basically going in for the 178 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,320 storage area. Zach, what's going in now? 179 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Like when you come in this year, is that 180 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,480 the first phase? And I'm assuming like 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,640 you said, you wanted more area. I'm 182 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,399 assuming where the green area is, you're 183 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:28,480 hoping to expand in the future to cover 184 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,480 the whole property. 185 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,399 >> Uh it it's it potentially. So we once we 186 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:36,480 close on the property over the next few 187 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,800 weeks, if this is approved, uh we'll 188 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,880 master plan that entire site to know 189 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,880 what our future holds 3, five, and 10 190 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 years from now. It might start that that 191 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,519 early area is greatly reduced for 192 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:49,200 outdoor storage. It might be bigger 193 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,200 depending on what we um need day one, 194 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,720 but that'll all go through the planning 195 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,959 process and be submitted to the city 196 00:10:56,959 --> 00:10:59,360 before we do any work. But yes, in in 197 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,519 potentially in 10 years, yes, it could 198 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,200 that entire green space could be um 199 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,000 storage. 200 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 >> Okay. So, but the red the red fencing is 201 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,279 basically your first step. 202 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:09,760 >> Correct. 203 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,120 >> That's where you're and everything that 204 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,880 you have will fit inside that storage 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,839 area. More or less. 206 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:14,800 >> More or less. 207 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,480 >> Okay. [snorts] Other 208 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,720 questions, comments from the planning 209 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,440 commission? 210 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,600 >> The only concern that I had was the the 211 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,320 concrete or the the pavement requirement 212 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,920 and it seems like that's being met. So, 213 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,990 I don't have any concerns. 214 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,360 » Further discussion. Do we feel ready to 215 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,240 vote? 216 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,920 >> I'll make a motion. I think it's 217 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,279 >> actually No, you got to look at the 218 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:42,800 resolutions. 219 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Um, [laughter] 220 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:53,910 >> okay. That's at at the end you've got uh 221 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,760 a conditional use permit. So resolution 222 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,800 20 2601 is to approve. 223 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,560 Okay. So if you want to approve it, you 224 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,600 would say move to approve uh 225 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,320 conditionally or planning commission 226 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,959 resolution 20261 227 00:12:12,959 --> 00:12:17,670 and recommend to the council. 228 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,240 2020 motion to approve planning 229 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,519 commission 202601. 230 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:25,839 >> Hey motion by Johnson. Is there a 231 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:26,399 second? 232 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:27,040 >> Second. 233 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,279 by not. Is there further 234 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:30,880 discussion on approving the conditional 235 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,200 use permit? 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Any further discussion? All in favor? I 237 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:43,269 >> I nay. So moved. 238 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:47,279 Next meeting is January 20th. 239 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:49,600 No, next council meeting is January 240 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,200 20th. Next planning commission is 241 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,600 February 9th. And we should say an 242 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,800 official welcome tonight to all to Chad 243 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,839 Johnson, who is technically our 244 00:12:59,839 --> 00:13:02,639 alternate member from the city council 245 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:04,480 to the planning commission. And until 246 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,760 such time as the vacancy is filled, I'm 247 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,440 assuming he's allowed to serve. Yes. Oh, 248 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,079 welcome. 249 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:13,680 >> Thank you, Diane. I hope we get some 250 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:16,079 citizens in here to fill it in. We need 251 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:17,839 citizen input. It's good. 252 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,440 >> So, now are you going to be full-time 253 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760 alternate as far as if someone if we 254 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,120 need a quorum 255 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,000 >> and someone? 256 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,160 >> Yep. So, if any of you other have 257 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,760 conflicts with any other meeting nights, 258 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,839 he would be this during this year, he 259 00:13:29,839 --> 00:13:31,839 will can serve as that alternate for any 260 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:34,160 other position, not just a vacant one 261 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 right now. 262 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,680 And again, uh, we do have that open seat 263 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,839 on the planning commission. If any 264 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:48,560 citizen is in interested in that, the applications are at city hall 265 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:52,480 hearing. Is anybody have anything they'd 266 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,120 like to add tonight? Dizzy, 267 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,199 John. 268 00:13:57,199 --> 00:13:59,920 >> Uh, next next planning commission 269 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:00,959 meeting, are we going to have something 270 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:03,199 on the fairboard ordinance and all that 271 00:14:03,199 --> 00:14:03,519 stuff? 272 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:05,600 >> I hope so. I just sent out the Yeah. 273 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 schedule for for opportunity for dates 274 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,399 to meet. I just got that out tonight. 275 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:10,880 >> Okay. 276 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,040 >> Awesome. We'll make that set and 277 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,399 >> bring something for the next meeting. I 278 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:15,040 hope. 279 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,399 >> Good. Anybody else have anything, Chad? 280 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,120 Is it 281 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,399 >> Thank you. 282 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:23,360 >> Okay. I declare the meeting adjourned at 283 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,720 6:40 p.m. 284 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,399 >> Motion approve or motion to 285 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:27,839 >> mo motion to adjurnn. 286 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:29,920 >> Yes. Uh so moved. 287 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,480 >> Second. 288 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Moved by uh no box, second by 289 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,680 knots. All in favor to adjurnn say I. 290 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,639 >> I. 291 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:39,880 >> So moved.