1 00:00:06,768 --> 00:00:09,018 Good. Thank you. AND, 2 00:00:09,018 --> 00:00:10,115 Commissioner Lee, right? 3 00:00:10,115 --> 00:00:11,378 could you announce 4 00:00:11,378 --> 00:00:12,569 list? 5 00:00:12,569 --> 00:00:13,627 Let me 6 00:00:13,627 --> 00:00:15,102 confirm, uh, three, 7 00:00:15,102 --> 00:00:17,492 Uh, Commissioner Cruz. 8 00:00:17,492 --> 00:00:18,547 earlier, 9 00:00:18,547 --> 00:00:19,630 uh, informed us that 10 00:00:19,630 --> 00:00:20,713 he will be absent, and 11 00:00:20,713 --> 00:00:21,657 then, uh, commissioner 12 00:00:21,657 --> 00:00:22,628 or a trusted person 13 00:00:22,628 --> 00:00:23,295 Foster also 14 00:00:23,295 --> 00:00:24,045 recently, uh, 15 00:00:24,045 --> 00:00:24,711 wrote to us 16 00:00:24,711 --> 00:00:25,794 email and 17 00:00:25,794 --> 00:00:26,794 reported that she 18 00:00:26,794 --> 00:00:27,821 will also be absent 19 00:00:27,821 --> 00:00:28,810 tonight. 20 00:00:28,810 --> 00:00:29,891 Commissioner Singh. 21 00:00:29,891 --> 00:00:30,810 Uh, I haven't heard from you yet. 22 00:00:30,810 --> 00:00:31,838 Commissioner Singh, but 23 00:00:31,838 --> 00:00:32,703 I will follow. 24 00:00:32,703 --> 00:00:33,731 with their electronic 25 00:00:33,731 --> 00:00:34,237 letters. 26 00:00:34,237 --> 00:00:35,992 Okay, thank you. Commissioner 27 00:00:35,992 --> 00:00:37,509 Lee is present. Commissioner 28 00:00:37,509 --> 00:00:38,141 Mallett. 29 00:00:38,141 --> 00:00:39,893 Here. Commissioner Walter. 30 00:00:39,893 --> 00:00:40,293 Here. 31 00:00:40,293 --> 00:00:41,593 Commissioner Watkins. 32 00:00:41,593 --> 00:00:42,940 Present. Commissioner 33 00:00:42,940 --> 00:00:43,415 Webb. 34 00:00:43,415 --> 00:00:44,014 Here. 35 00:00:44,014 --> 00:00:45,106 Head Zuber. 36 00:00:45,106 --> 00:00:47,115 I'm here, thank you. And let 37 00:00:47,115 --> 00:00:48,407 it will be recorded that 38 00:00:48,407 --> 00:00:49,427 We have Patrick here. 39 00:00:49,427 --> 00:00:50,754 Sloan and Aaron Schlut of 40 00:00:50,754 --> 00:00:51,910 personnel, as well as 41 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:52,930 our consultant 42 00:00:52,930 --> 00:00:55,033 Courtney Grusa. Thank you. THERE ARE 43 00:00:55,033 --> 00:00:56,320 -eh, we have order 44 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,542 daily. Oh, we have 45 00:00:57,542 --> 00:00:58,411 protocol for 46 00:00:58,411 --> 00:00:59,534 approval from 14 47 00:00:59,534 --> 00:01:00,178 September. 48 00:01:00,178 --> 00:01:00,941 Proposal about 49 00:01:00,941 --> 00:01:01,622 approval 50 00:01:01,622 --> 00:01:02,240 protocol. 51 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,115 Secondly, madam 52 00:01:03,115 --> 00:01:03,856 presiding 53 00:01:03,856 --> 00:01:04,524 Okay, we have 54 00:01:04,524 --> 00:01:05,540 Commissioner's proposal 55 00:01:05,540 --> 00:01:06,128 Malletta and 56 00:01:06,128 --> 00:01:07,091 Commissioner's support 57 00:01:07,091 --> 00:01:07,786 Watkins regarding 58 00:01:07,786 --> 00:01:08,454 approval 59 00:01:08,454 --> 00:01:09,427 protocol. Does the 60 00:01:09,427 --> 00:01:10,388 someone else some 61 00:01:10,388 --> 00:01:11,752 discussion? All who 62 00:01:11,752 --> 00:01:12,790 "yes", please, 63 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:13,627 say "I". 64 00:01:13,627 --> 00:01:14,444 And we have order. 65 00:01:14,444 --> 00:01:15,498 daily, which is needed 66 00:01:15,498 --> 00:01:16,047 accept. 67 00:01:16,047 --> 00:01:16,891 Offer. 68 00:01:16,891 --> 00:01:17,791 Proposal, ma'am 69 00:01:17,791 --> 00:01:18,443 presiding 70 00:01:18,443 --> 00:01:19,186 I support. 71 00:01:19,186 --> 00:01:20,288 Okay, that's it this time. 72 00:01:20,288 --> 00:01:21,453 vice versa. We have...We 73 00:01:21,453 --> 00:01:22,349 not the other way around, everything 74 00:01:22,349 --> 00:01:23,314 vice versa. We have 75 00:01:23,314 --> 00:01:24,497 Commissioner Watkins, who 76 00:01:24,497 --> 00:01:25,681 makes a proposal, and 77 00:01:25,681 --> 00:01:26,568 Commissioner Mallett 78 00:01:26,568 --> 00:01:27,589 supports. Uh, yes. 79 00:01:27,589 --> 00:01:28,988 further discussion 80 00:01:28,988 --> 00:01:30,190 ? Everyone who is "in favor", be 81 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:31,708 Please say "I". AND. 82 00:01:31,708 --> 00:01:33,093 I. Good, very good. 83 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:33,956 Patrick, do we have 84 00:01:33,956 --> 00:01:34,667 some further 85 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:35,607 message, except 86 00:01:35,607 --> 00:01:36,521 what you see in 87 00:01:36,521 --> 00:01:36,952 package? 88 00:01:36,952 --> 00:01:37,884 No additional 89 00:01:37,884 --> 00:01:38,615 messages. 90 00:01:38,615 --> 00:01:39,921 Good, very good. 91 00:01:39,921 --> 00:01:41,175 Thank you. Um, we have 92 00:01:41,175 --> 00:01:41,765 period for 93 00:01:41,765 --> 00:01:42,385 public 94 00:01:42,385 --> 00:01:43,649 discussion. Any 95 00:01:43,649 --> 00:01:44,771 the person can speak 96 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:45,902 maximum 3 minutes. 97 00:01:45,902 --> 00:01:48,114 If you are here to talk about something, 98 00:01:48,114 --> 00:01:49,435 except for one question, 99 00:01:49,435 --> 00:01:50,426 which we have for 100 00:01:50,426 --> 00:01:51,681 public hearings, and 101 00:01:51,681 --> 00:01:52,572 it's about change 102 00:01:52,572 --> 00:01:53,695 zoning WB Real Estate 103 00:01:53,695 --> 00:01:54,752 Ventures LLC, uh, now 104 00:01:54,752 --> 00:01:55,743 your opportunity 105 00:01:55,743 --> 00:01:57,134 to go on the podium. Sir 106 00:01:57,134 --> 00:02:01,790 McCausland. 107 00:02:01,790 --> 00:02:02,812 Good evening, 108 00:02:02,812 --> 00:02:03,899 Commissions. Daniel 109 00:02:03,899 --> 00:02:05,088 McCausland, Haggerty- 110 00:02:05,088 --> 00:02:05,820 road, 328. Um, I 111 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:07,010 I'm going to break this. 112 00:02:07,010 --> 00:02:08,230 question, because it seems 113 00:02:08,230 --> 00:02:09,297 tonight is 114 00:02:09,297 --> 00:02:10,121 topic for this 115 00:02:10,121 --> 00:02:11,127 question is okay 116 00:02:11,127 --> 00:02:13,510 daytime. You know, 117 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:15,020 about 30 years ago, 118 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:15,911 when was here 119 00:02:15,911 --> 00:02:17,304 construction boom, we 120 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:18,156 obliged 121 00:02:18,156 --> 00:02:19,549 most buildings 122 00:02:19,549 --> 00:02:25,750 have 50% masonry. It 123 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:27,073 led to the fact that in 124 00:02:27,073 --> 00:02:27,934 our community 125 00:02:27,934 --> 00:02:28,562 mainly 126 00:02:28,562 --> 00:02:29,721 was used 127 00:02:29,721 --> 00:02:30,912 earth tone brick: 128 00:02:30,912 --> 00:02:32,103 red, brown, 129 00:02:32,103 --> 00:02:36,925 dark brown. Then 130 00:02:36,925 --> 00:02:38,603 there were thoughts that we live in 131 00:02:38,603 --> 00:02:39,838 colonial city, 132 00:02:39,838 --> 00:02:40,693 what will we have 133 00:02:40,693 --> 00:02:43,845 colonial look. 134 00:02:43,845 --> 00:02:45,171 Now I see that because 135 00:02:45,171 --> 00:02:45,968 30 years with us 136 00:02:45,968 --> 00:02:47,261 what is happening is that I 137 00:02:47,261 --> 00:02:48,588 would call it a derivation from 138 00:02:48,588 --> 00:02:49,650 operation of these 139 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:53,823 brick buildings, and we paint them. And I see, 140 00:02:53,823 --> 00:02:55,095 what tonight 141 00:02:55,095 --> 00:02:56,333 one of them, perhaps, 142 00:02:56,333 --> 00:02:57,056 will have to 143 00:02:57,056 --> 00:02:58,716 paint. I know, 144 00:02:58,716 --> 00:02:59,992 what is here, in the future, 145 00:02:59,992 --> 00:03:01,076 there were several of these, 146 00:03:01,076 --> 00:03:04,331 which have already been painted. 147 00:03:04,331 --> 00:03:05,243 Maybe they don't 148 00:03:05,243 --> 00:03:06,216 correspond to those 149 00:03:06,216 --> 00:03:07,097 standards that 150 00:03:07,097 --> 00:03:08,253 earlier, because the brick 151 00:03:08,253 --> 00:03:08,952 —it really is 152 00:03:08,952 --> 00:03:10,211 timeless cover. 153 00:03:10,211 --> 00:03:11,354 This is a durable coating, and 154 00:03:11,354 --> 00:03:12,188 it never 155 00:03:12,188 --> 00:03:13,177 intended for 156 00:03:13,177 --> 00:03:17,450 dyeing. So I think that regarding the requirement, 157 00:03:17,450 --> 00:03:18,431 so that the brick is 158 00:03:18,431 --> 00:03:19,848 part of the architecture 159 00:03:19,848 --> 00:03:23,705 , we moved away from 160 00:03:23,705 --> 00:03:26,607 this, and that's good. 161 00:03:26,607 --> 00:03:27,772 Many of these conversations 162 00:03:27,772 --> 00:03:28,841 happened during 163 00:03:28,841 --> 00:03:29,456 renewal 164 00:03:29,456 --> 00:03:30,622 master plan 165 00:03:30,622 --> 00:03:31,918 about how to get away from 166 00:03:31,918 --> 00:03:33,083 this and go to 167 00:03:33,083 --> 00:03:34,087 newer, newer 168 00:03:34,087 --> 00:03:35,221 structures, you know, from 169 00:03:35,221 --> 00:03:36,354 new decoration, 170 00:03:36,354 --> 00:03:40,255 perhaps more modern. 171 00:03:40,255 --> 00:03:41,424 So I think you 172 00:03:41,424 --> 00:03:42,691 need to consider, 173 00:03:42,691 --> 00:03:43,438 how to withdraw from 174 00:03:43,438 --> 00:03:44,737 brick operation 175 00:03:44,737 --> 00:03:47,993 building? How are you? 176 00:03:47,993 --> 00:03:48,650 uh, some 177 00:03:48,650 --> 00:03:49,891 recommendations regarding 178 00:03:49,891 --> 00:03:50,841 of what is possible 179 00:03:50,841 --> 00:03:51,936 to paint, that is not 180 00:03:51,936 --> 00:03:53,251 can be painted as 181 00:03:53,251 --> 00:03:55,247 Can this be painted? 182 00:03:55,247 --> 00:03:56,401 What will it look like? 183 00:03:56,401 --> 00:03:57,258 building after 184 00:03:57,258 --> 00:03:59,487 dyeing? Because 185 00:03:59,487 --> 00:03:59,936 you seem to 186 00:03:59,936 --> 00:04:01,092 get rid of that 187 00:04:01,092 --> 00:04:01,959 established 188 00:04:01,959 --> 00:04:05,349 appearance. That's all I have. 189 00:04:05,349 --> 00:04:07,142 I can say. Thank you. 190 00:04:07,142 --> 00:04:09,180 Does anyone else have 191 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:10,418 to comment on something 192 00:04:10,418 --> 00:04:16,514 off the agenda? 193 00:04:16,514 --> 00:04:18,158 Michelle St. John. 194 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:19,432 I have lived my whole life in 195 00:04:19,432 --> 00:04:20,022 Cantonese. 196 00:04:20,022 --> 00:04:21,143 Can you...Excuse me? 197 00:04:21,143 --> 00:04:22,314 , Mrs. St. John. Not 198 00:04:22,314 --> 00:04:23,028 could you also 199 00:04:23,028 --> 00:04:23,765 tell us yours 200 00:04:23,765 --> 00:04:24,175 address? 201 00:04:24,175 --> 00:04:26,413 Oh, um, 46233 Spinning Wheel 202 00:04:26,413 --> 00:04:27,129 Drive. 203 00:04:27,129 --> 00:04:27,799 Thank you. 204 00:04:27,799 --> 00:04:29,173 I am all my life 205 00:04:29,173 --> 00:04:30,439 lived in Canton. I 206 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:31,494 grew up in Sunflower 207 00:04:31,494 --> 00:04:32,279 and I knew what I wanted 208 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,334 to raise their own there 209 00:04:33,334 --> 00:04:34,364 children. In 2016, we 210 00:04:34,364 --> 00:04:35,174 bought by husband 211 00:04:35,174 --> 00:04:36,161 the house that bordered 212 00:04:36,161 --> 00:04:37,123 Gainsborough Commons, with 213 00:04:37,123 --> 00:04:37,908 tennis court, 214 00:04:37,908 --> 00:04:38,465 swimming pool and 215 00:04:38,465 --> 00:04:39,148 basketball 216 00:04:39,148 --> 00:04:39,986 playground. To us 217 00:04:39,986 --> 00:04:40,655 liked ours 218 00:04:40,655 --> 00:04:41,413 location, and we 219 00:04:41,413 --> 00:04:42,014 never had 220 00:04:42,014 --> 00:04:42,705 noise problems 221 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:43,463 of our community, which 222 00:04:43,463 --> 00:04:44,109 enjoys 223 00:04:44,109 --> 00:04:45,028 Commons. In 2020 224 00:04:45,028 --> 00:04:46,024 the tennis court was 225 00:04:46,024 --> 00:04:47,135 converted to three 226 00:04:47,135 --> 00:04:48,245 pickleball courts, and 227 00:04:48,245 --> 00:04:48,985 our situation 228 00:04:48,985 --> 00:04:50,018 changed. Pickleball 229 00:04:50,018 --> 00:04:50,905 differs from 230 00:04:50,905 --> 00:04:51,714 tennis loudness, 231 00:04:51,714 --> 00:04:52,288 frequency and 232 00:04:52,288 --> 00:04:53,276 player density. 233 00:04:53,276 --> 00:04:54,062 Sounds made 234 00:04:54,062 --> 00:04:54,935 two to four people, 235 00:04:54,935 --> 00:04:55,699 who play tennis, 236 00:04:55,699 --> 00:04:56,485 very different 237 00:04:56,485 --> 00:04:57,053 from the sounds that 238 00:04:57,053 --> 00:04:57,904 issued by up to 12 people 239 00:04:57,904 --> 00:04:58,756 who play pickleball 240 00:04:58,756 --> 00:04:59,519 . We love ours 241 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:00,327 community, but courts 242 00:05:00,327 --> 00:05:01,064 influenced our 243 00:05:01,064 --> 00:05:01,777 ability to peacefully 244 00:05:01,777 --> 00:05:02,514 enjoy 245 00:05:02,514 --> 00:05:03,298 our home and 246 00:05:03,298 --> 00:05:04,167 our yard. 247 00:05:04,167 --> 00:05:04,827 Because of the loud, 248 00:05:04,827 --> 00:05:05,688 high-frequency, 249 00:05:05,688 --> 00:05:06,664 impulsive sounds 250 00:05:06,664 --> 00:05:07,783 pickleball, sources that 251 00:05:07,783 --> 00:05:08,931 used for 252 00:05:08,931 --> 00:05:10,050 installation of courts, 253 00:05:10,050 --> 00:05:10,768 recommend 254 00:05:10,768 --> 00:05:11,858 minimum distance 255 00:05:11,858 --> 00:05:12,949 350 to 600 feet between 256 00:05:12,949 --> 00:05:14,011 pickleball court 257 00:05:14,011 --> 00:05:15,159 and the property boundary, and, 258 00:05:15,159 --> 00:05:16,250 of course, not less than 100 259 00:05:16,250 --> 00:05:17,377 feet. Distance from 260 00:05:17,377 --> 00:05:18,206 court fences 261 00:05:18,206 --> 00:05:19,184 Gainsborough to the limit 262 00:05:19,184 --> 00:05:20,014 my property 263 00:05:20,014 --> 00:05:21,110 is 30 feet, and 264 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:22,295 distance from the court to 265 00:05:22,295 --> 00:05:23,481 my back door–70 266 00:05:23,481 --> 00:05:24,328 feet. Even with 267 00:05:24,328 --> 00:05:24,934 taking into account 268 00:05:24,934 --> 00:05:25,699 recommended 269 00:05:25,699 --> 00:05:26,568 distance of 300 feet, 270 00:05:26,568 --> 00:05:27,570 the following are recommended 271 00:05:27,570 --> 00:05:28,018 conditions, as 272 00:05:28,018 --> 00:05:28,966 high-quality walls 273 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:29,994 for sound absorption, 274 00:05:29,994 --> 00:05:30,838 limited schedule 275 00:05:30,838 --> 00:05:31,549 work and quiet 276 00:05:31,549 --> 00:05:32,381 equipment. For 277 00:05:32,381 --> 00:05:33,245 many houses 278 00:05:33,245 --> 00:05:34,110 around us, our 279 00:05:34,110 --> 00:05:35,102 houses and buildings 280 00:05:35,102 --> 00:05:36,120 our neighbors, there are those who 281 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:36,755 that have such 282 00:05:36,755 --> 00:05:37,493 noise-absorbing 283 00:05:37,493 --> 00:05:38,340 elements. Sounds 284 00:05:38,340 --> 00:05:39,084 pickleball is heard 285 00:05:39,084 --> 00:05:39,942 inside ours 286 00:05:39,942 --> 00:05:40,571 houses with 287 00:05:40,571 --> 00:05:41,601 behind closed doors 288 00:05:41,601 --> 00:05:42,608 and windows. During 289 00:05:42,608 --> 00:05:43,232 discussion with 290 00:05:43,232 --> 00:05:43,640 several 291 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,288 authoritative 292 00:05:44,288 --> 00:05:44,936 companies that 293 00:05:44,936 --> 00:05:45,440 are engaged in 294 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,184 noise reduction 295 00:05:46,184 --> 00:05:46,832 pickleball, me 296 00:05:46,832 --> 00:05:47,792 They said it was adequate. 297 00:05:47,792 --> 00:05:48,631 the distance is unlikely 298 00:05:48,631 --> 00:05:49,375 will be sufficient, 299 00:05:49,375 --> 00:05:49,879 considering 300 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:50,431 extraordinary 301 00:05:50,431 --> 00:05:51,151 the proximity of my 302 00:05:51,151 --> 00:05:52,063 house to the courts and 303 00:05:52,063 --> 00:05:52,735 visibility of mine 304 00:05:52,735 --> 00:05:53,551 house on the court with 305 00:05:53,551 --> 00:05:54,494 second floor. We 306 00:05:54,494 --> 00:05:55,454 discussed moving 307 00:05:55,454 --> 00:05:56,291 , but the location 308 00:05:56,291 --> 00:05:57,128 courts potentially 309 00:05:57,128 --> 00:05:58,088 affected the cost 310 00:05:58,088 --> 00:05:59,025 our resale. 311 00:05:59,025 --> 00:05:59,538 Although the area with 312 00:05:59,538 --> 00:06:00,253 platforms for 313 00:06:00,253 --> 00:06:01,035 Pickleball is preferred 314 00:06:01,035 --> 00:06:01,839 for many people, 315 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,420 accommodation on 316 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:03,269 30 feet away from 317 00:06:03,269 --> 00:06:04,028 three platforms 318 00:06:04,028 --> 00:06:04,895 for pickleball–no. I 319 00:06:04,895 --> 00:06:05,814 read articles in which 320 00:06:05,814 --> 00:06:06,658 loss is estimated 321 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:07,528 from 10 to 20% of the cost 322 00:06:07,528 --> 00:06:08,273 resale for 323 00:06:08,273 --> 00:06:08,720 houses, 324 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,614 located across 325 00:06:09,614 --> 00:06:10,111 the road from 326 00:06:10,111 --> 00:06:10,806 playground for 327 00:06:10,806 --> 00:06:11,750 pickleball, and mine has 328 00:06:11,750 --> 00:06:12,569 like this on the back 329 00:06:12,569 --> 00:06:14,113 yard. For many years we 330 00:06:14,113 --> 00:06:14,722 worked on 331 00:06:14,722 --> 00:06:15,659 internal methods 332 00:06:15,659 --> 00:06:16,408 with our condominium association regarding 333 00:06:16,408 --> 00:06:17,334 this question. Our 334 00:06:17,334 --> 00:06:18,083 the courts now have 335 00:06:18,083 --> 00:06:19,001 locks that require 336 00:06:19,001 --> 00:06:19,943 access using 337 00:06:19,943 --> 00:06:20,643 key fobs, cameras 338 00:06:20,643 --> 00:06:21,344 security, hours 339 00:06:21,344 --> 00:06:22,261 working hours from 10:00 to 20:00 and 340 00:06:22,261 --> 00:06:22,769 rules that 341 00:06:22,769 --> 00:06:23,662 ban music, 342 00:06:23,662 --> 00:06:24,290 loudspeakers and 343 00:06:24,290 --> 00:06:25,232 foul language 344 00:06:25,232 --> 00:06:26,312 . To get to this point 345 00:06:26,312 --> 00:06:27,408 moment, needed 346 00:06:27,408 --> 00:06:28,307 years of consistent 347 00:06:28,307 --> 00:06:29,065 advocacy, but 348 00:06:29,065 --> 00:06:30,077 matter of fact 349 00:06:30,077 --> 00:06:31,116 the sound of pickleball still 350 00:06:31,116 --> 00:06:31,971 not resolved. It 351 00:06:31,971 --> 00:06:32,903 the question raised 352 00:06:32,903 --> 00:06:33,944 great tension 353 00:06:33,944 --> 00:06:34,793 and differences in 354 00:06:34,793 --> 00:06:35,783 our community. Our 355 00:06:35,783 --> 00:06:36,541 the district recently 356 00:06:36,541 --> 00:06:37,553 created a committee that 357 00:06:37,553 --> 00:06:38,211 should help 358 00:06:38,211 --> 00:06:39,121 determine the future 359 00:06:39,121 --> 00:06:39,956 pickleball in our 360 00:06:39,956 --> 00:06:41,058 district. This situation 361 00:06:41,058 --> 00:06:42,160 is not unique to 362 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,253 Sunflower. Similar 363 00:06:43,253 --> 00:06:43,789 situations that 364 00:06:43,789 --> 00:06:44,396 lead to 365 00:06:44,396 --> 00:06:45,142 tensions between 366 00:06:45,142 --> 00:06:45,958 neighbors, closing 367 00:06:45,958 --> 00:06:46,680 courts and tribunals 368 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,053 lawsuits, 369 00:06:47,053 --> 00:06:47,962 occurring throughout the 370 00:06:47,962 --> 00:06:49,089 country. In Canton, it is valid 371 00:06:49,089 --> 00:06:50,189 noise ordinance, 372 00:06:50,189 --> 00:06:51,115 which states that 373 00:06:51,115 --> 00:06:52,243 the sound should be below 55 374 00:06:52,243 --> 00:06:53,343 decibels from 7:00 a.m. 375 00:06:53,343 --> 00:06:54,513 until 7:00 pm. Sources 376 00:06:54,513 --> 00:06:55,591 they report that the sound 377 00:06:55,591 --> 00:06:56,561 pickleball is 378 00:06:56,561 --> 00:06:57,153 approximately 70 379 00:06:57,153 --> 00:06:57,800 decibels per 380 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,851 100 feet away from 381 00:06:58,851 --> 00:06:59,956 sources of impact. However 382 00:06:59,956 --> 00:07:00,926 pickleball, as you know, 383 00:07:00,926 --> 00:07:02,007 difficult to measure, and for 384 00:07:02,007 --> 00:07:02,783 this is needed 385 00:07:02,783 --> 00:07:03,365 professional 386 00:07:03,365 --> 00:07:04,546 equipment and methods. 387 00:07:04,546 --> 00:07:05,496 In our communication 388 00:07:05,496 --> 00:07:05,983 with the department 389 00:07:05,983 --> 00:07:06,519 planning, 390 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:07,421 officials, 391 00:07:07,421 --> 00:07:08,273 responsible for 392 00:07:08,273 --> 00:07:08,882 resolutions, and 393 00:07:08,882 --> 00:07:09,686 we were the police 394 00:07:09,686 --> 00:07:10,612 It is difficult to determine which 395 00:07:10,612 --> 00:07:11,538 information needed 396 00:07:11,538 --> 00:07:12,123 town for 397 00:07:12,123 --> 00:07:12,732 software 398 00:07:12,732 --> 00:07:13,658 execution of the resolution 399 00:07:13,658 --> 00:07:14,243 about the noise in this 400 00:07:14,243 --> 00:07:16,250 specific situation. 401 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:17,627 To protect yourself and 402 00:07:17,627 --> 00:07:18,522 save others 403 00:07:18,522 --> 00:07:19,796 Cantons from what 404 00:07:19,796 --> 00:07:21,399 We survived, I'm here. IN 405 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:22,531 You have 3 minutes, and 3 406 00:07:22,531 --> 00:07:23,593 Minutes passed. 407 00:07:23,593 --> 00:07:25,120 Oh, sorry. Good. 408 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:32,898 Thank you. Good. Thank you. 409 00:07:32,898 --> 00:07:36,142 Good. Someone else 410 00:07:36,142 --> 00:07:38,635 ? Good. Then we 411 00:07:38,635 --> 00:07:39,693 let's move on from 412 00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:40,494 of our order 413 00:07:40,494 --> 00:07:42,056 daytime. Uh, first one 414 00:07:42,056 --> 00:07:44,069 point of order 415 00:07:44,069 --> 00:07:45,979 daytime is public 416 00:07:45,979 --> 00:07:47,992 hearing on the item 417 00:07:47,992 --> 00:07:49,593 number RZ PZ 2600195. This 418 00:07:49,593 --> 00:07:51,554 zoning change WB Real 419 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:53,862 Estate Ventures LLC. We 420 00:07:53,862 --> 00:07:55,245 considering 421 00:07:55,245 --> 00:07:57,169 possibility of change 422 00:07:57,169 --> 00:07:59,213 zoning of the site 423 00:07:59,213 --> 00:08:00,991 number 139-99-0027-000. 424 00:08:00,991 --> 00:08:01,994 Addresses for this 425 00:08:01,994 --> 00:08:03,382 There is no real estate. Hmm 426 00:08:03,382 --> 00:08:04,214 , this property 427 00:08:04,214 --> 00:08:04,713 free and 428 00:08:04,713 --> 00:08:05,489 located on 429 00:08:05,489 --> 00:08:06,431 south side 430 00:08:06,431 --> 00:08:07,346 Michigan Avenue between 431 00:08:07,346 --> 00:08:08,288 South Lilly Road and 432 00:08:08,288 --> 00:08:09,359 South Haggerty Road. 433 00:08:09,359 --> 00:08:10,163 Hmm, a suggestion 434 00:08:10,163 --> 00:08:11,206 is to 435 00:08:11,206 --> 00:08:12,220 change zoning 436 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:12,846 areas with G1 437 00:08:12,846 --> 00:08:14,008 General industrial 438 00:08:14,008 --> 00:08:14,992 on C4 Transport 439 00:08:14,992 --> 00:08:15,940 area. Patrick, 440 00:08:15,940 --> 00:08:18,219 tell us, Please, that's all. 441 00:08:18,219 --> 00:08:20,282 Hmm, of course, thank you. Hmm, 442 00:08:20,282 --> 00:08:21,954 the proposal is to 443 00:08:21,954 --> 00:08:23,326 in order to change 444 00:08:23,326 --> 00:08:24,998 zoning of the site on 445 00:08:24,998 --> 00:08:26,456 south side 446 00:08:26,456 --> 00:08:28,171 Michigan Avenue, area 447 00:08:28,171 --> 00:08:29,843 about 1.39 acres, from 448 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:30,615 Hmm, GI, what is it? 449 00:08:30,615 --> 00:08:32,330 General industrial, 450 00:08:32,330 --> 00:08:33,059 to C4, which is 451 00:08:33,059 --> 00:08:34,731 Transport district 452 00:08:34,731 --> 00:08:36,465 . Hmm, the applicant's intention 453 00:08:36,465 --> 00:08:37,568 is that 454 00:08:37,568 --> 00:08:38,638 if real estate 455 00:08:38,638 --> 00:08:39,942 will be rezoned to 456 00:08:39,942 --> 00:08:40,978 C4, then, um, the applicant 457 00:08:40,978 --> 00:08:42,215 intends to submit 458 00:08:42,215 --> 00:08:43,519 application for special 459 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:44,689 land use 460 00:08:44,689 --> 00:08:45,825 for automotive 461 00:08:45,825 --> 00:08:46,561 gas stations and 462 00:08:46,561 --> 00:08:47,530 multipurpose 463 00:08:47,530 --> 00:08:48,366 stations, um, with 464 00:08:48,366 --> 00:08:49,636 fast food restaurant 465 00:08:49,636 --> 00:08:50,973 food that works 466 00:08:50,973 --> 00:08:52,474 under control. Hmm, 467 00:08:52,474 --> 00:08:53,583 however, the proposal, 468 00:08:53,583 --> 00:08:54,430 which is in the package 469 00:08:54,430 --> 00:08:55,604 tonight, there is 470 00:08:55,604 --> 00:08:56,876 conceptual and not 471 00:08:56,876 --> 00:08:58,180 has binding force 472 00:08:58,180 --> 00:08:59,321 and may change 473 00:08:59,321 --> 00:09:00,038 according to 474 00:09:00,038 --> 00:09:01,147 available areas 475 00:09:01,147 --> 00:09:01,929 zoning and 476 00:09:01,929 --> 00:09:03,136 development options, 477 00:09:03,136 --> 00:09:04,179 um, resolutions about 478 00:09:04,179 --> 00:09:05,955 zoning. Also, 479 00:09:05,955 --> 00:09:06,801 regardless of 480 00:09:06,801 --> 00:09:07,810 proposed 481 00:09:07,810 --> 00:09:08,624 using 482 00:09:08,624 --> 00:09:09,828 applicant at the time 483 00:09:09,828 --> 00:09:11,065 zoning changes, our 484 00:09:11,065 --> 00:09:11,976 staff report 485 00:09:11,976 --> 00:09:13,213 more focused 486 00:09:13,213 --> 00:09:14,384 on the proposed 487 00:09:14,384 --> 00:09:15,328 in the C4 area than in 488 00:09:15,328 --> 00:09:16,076 specific 489 00:09:16,076 --> 00:09:17,281 land use, 490 00:09:17,281 --> 00:09:18,582 because this application is not 491 00:09:18,582 --> 00:09:19,819 is a conditional application for 492 00:09:19,819 --> 00:09:21,944 zoning change. 493 00:09:21,944 --> 00:09:22,676 Real estate 494 00:09:22,676 --> 00:09:23,568 located on 495 00:09:23,568 --> 00:09:24,652 south side 496 00:09:24,652 --> 00:09:25,703 Michigan Avenue between 497 00:09:25,703 --> 00:09:26,977 Morton Taylor Road and 498 00:09:26,977 --> 00:09:29,094 Lilly Road. On the screen 499 00:09:29,094 --> 00:09:30,320 there is an aerial photo 500 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,947 plots. And, sorry, 501 00:09:33,947 --> 00:09:35,359 it's between Lilly Road and 502 00:09:35,359 --> 00:09:38,243 South Haggerty Road. AND 503 00:09:38,243 --> 00:09:38,893 Lilly Road 504 00:09:38,893 --> 00:09:40,193 is located to the west, 505 00:09:40,193 --> 00:09:41,396 therefore it is marked 506 00:09:41,396 --> 00:09:42,634 Here it is on the screen. 507 00:09:42,634 --> 00:09:43,831 Haggerty Road no. 508 00:09:43,831 --> 00:09:45,093 on the screen, it's a little 509 00:09:45,093 --> 00:09:46,371 further east. We have 510 00:09:46,371 --> 00:09:47,672 other aerial photographs, 511 00:09:47,672 --> 00:09:48,506 which we can 512 00:09:48,506 --> 00:09:49,840 place on the screen, 513 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,741 if we want 514 00:09:50,741 --> 00:09:51,909 look at others 515 00:09:51,909 --> 00:09:53,243 areas of this area, 516 00:09:53,243 --> 00:09:54,511 but this is, um, a map that 517 00:09:54,511 --> 00:09:55,917 is in the package. Area, 518 00:09:55,917 --> 00:09:57,473 um, empty, it has 519 00:09:57,473 --> 00:09:58,902 vegetation, and, um, 520 00:09:58,902 --> 00:10:00,205 she is surrounded, um, 521 00:10:00,205 --> 00:10:01,593 a number of different, um, 522 00:10:01,593 --> 00:10:03,064 industrial and, um, 523 00:10:03,064 --> 00:10:06,044 commercial facilities. 524 00:10:06,044 --> 00:10:07,499 Um, north, through, uh 525 00:10:07,499 --> 00:10:08,880 -eh, Michigan Avenue, this 526 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,298 territory assigned 527 00:10:10,298 --> 00:10:11,417 to the regional 528 00:10:11,417 --> 00:10:12,910 commercial zone C3 and 529 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:14,403 light industry 530 00:10:14,403 --> 00:10:16,795 LI. Uh, in the south, uh, 531 00:10:16,795 --> 00:10:17,984 it is attributed to 532 00:10:17,984 --> 00:10:19,388 general industrial 533 00:10:19,388 --> 00:10:21,435 zones. Uh, in the south 534 00:10:21,435 --> 00:10:22,764 it includes, uh, 535 00:10:22,764 --> 00:10:24,341 Sock Trail landfill 536 00:10:24,341 --> 00:10:26,002 Hills, as well as Canton Renewables, 537 00:10:26,002 --> 00:10:27,081 which is a factory with 538 00:10:27,081 --> 00:10:28,742 landfill recycling 539 00:10:28,742 --> 00:10:29,655 gas and, uh, 540 00:10:29,655 --> 00:10:33,523 processing plant. THERE ARE 541 00:10:33,523 --> 00:10:34,411 -e, in the east 542 00:10:34,411 --> 00:10:35,383 is located 543 00:10:35,383 --> 00:10:36,946 general industrial 544 00:10:36,946 --> 00:10:38,552 zone, that is, er, Viscount 545 00:10:38,552 --> 00:10:40,158 or Vicount Pools and Spas, er, 546 00:10:40,158 --> 00:10:41,637 what is, uh, a subcontractor 547 00:10:41,637 --> 00:10:43,286 sales institution, e- 548 00:10:43,286 --> 00:10:44,384 e, swimming pools and 549 00:10:44,384 --> 00:10:45,272 accompanying 550 00:10:45,272 --> 00:10:47,547 equipment. And on 551 00:10:47,547 --> 00:10:48,385 West, uh, 552 00:10:48,385 --> 00:10:49,980 is, uh, zone 553 00:10:49,980 --> 00:10:51,536 light industry 554 00:10:51,536 --> 00:10:53,093 , i.e. Nissan car dealership 555 00:10:53,093 --> 00:10:53,954 of Canton. IN 556 00:10:53,954 --> 00:10:55,122 light industry 557 00:10:55,122 --> 00:10:55,822 district, uh, 558 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:56,890 car dealerships have 559 00:10:56,890 --> 00:10:57,591 special 560 00:10:57,591 --> 00:10:58,892 land use and 561 00:10:58,892 --> 00:11:00,127 , uh, only allowed 562 00:11:00,127 --> 00:11:01,262 along the sections that 563 00:11:01,262 --> 00:11:02,496 overlooks Michigan- 564 00:11:02,496 --> 00:11:04,991 avenue. Uh, in our, uh- 565 00:11:04,991 --> 00:11:07,362 uh, personnel report, I want to point out, uh, 566 00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:08,516 one, uh, mistake, and 567 00:11:08,516 --> 00:11:09,157 it is rather 568 00:11:09,157 --> 00:11:10,343 misprint, 569 00:11:10,343 --> 00:11:11,593 which, uh, we'll fix 570 00:11:11,593 --> 00:11:12,714 in our report; but 571 00:11:12,714 --> 00:11:13,484 at the bottom of the first 572 00:11:13,484 --> 00:11:15,342 pages we note in the report, 573 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:15,983 existing 574 00:11:15,983 --> 00:11:16,784 classification 575 00:11:16,784 --> 00:11:17,522 future 576 00:11:17,522 --> 00:11:18,643 land use 577 00:11:18,643 --> 00:11:19,829 master plan, 578 00:11:19,829 --> 00:11:20,951 hmm, it says 579 00:11:20,951 --> 00:11:22,072 residential development in 580 00:11:22,072 --> 00:11:23,286 nodes of the district. Hmm, this is 581 00:11:23,286 --> 00:11:23,976 was just 582 00:11:23,976 --> 00:11:25,199 typographical error, and 583 00:11:25,199 --> 00:11:26,234 , um, classification 584 00:11:26,234 --> 00:11:26,955 future 585 00:11:26,955 --> 00:11:28,210 land use on 586 00:11:28,210 --> 00:11:29,339 general map 587 00:11:29,339 --> 00:11:29,746 plan– 588 00:11:29,746 --> 00:11:30,938 general industrial, 589 00:11:30,938 --> 00:11:31,879 so, um, this will be 590 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:33,070 fixed in ours, 591 00:11:33,070 --> 00:11:34,137 um, further, um, 592 00:11:34,137 --> 00:11:35,453 corrected report. AND 593 00:11:35,453 --> 00:11:36,330 throughout 594 00:11:36,330 --> 00:11:37,499 our report, I think, 595 00:11:37,499 --> 00:11:38,259 we are consistent 596 00:11:38,259 --> 00:11:39,252 we note that, um, 597 00:11:39,252 --> 00:11:40,187 master plan 598 00:11:40,187 --> 00:11:41,064 planned for 599 00:11:41,064 --> 00:11:42,233 general commercial 600 00:11:42,233 --> 00:11:44,828 , um, in this area. 601 00:11:44,828 --> 00:11:46,288 Hmm, end of August 602 00:11:46,288 --> 00:11:47,785 , um, I met with, um, 603 00:11:47,785 --> 00:11:48,646 potential 604 00:11:48,646 --> 00:11:50,144 by the site user 605 00:11:50,144 --> 00:11:50,668 and his 606 00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:51,941 designer, 607 00:11:51,941 --> 00:11:53,252 to, um, discuss 608 00:11:53,252 --> 00:11:54,674 the plot and what it will be like 609 00:11:54,674 --> 00:11:55,723 submission process 610 00:11:55,723 --> 00:11:57,183 applications, if they, um, 611 00:11:57,183 --> 00:11:58,643 will want to continue, 612 00:11:58,643 --> 00:12:00,066 um, final application 613 00:12:00,066 --> 00:12:02,030 to the gas station. And according to 614 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:03,050 with a resolution on 615 00:12:03,050 --> 00:12:04,268 There are a number of zoning 616 00:12:04,268 --> 00:12:05,585 different options that 617 00:12:05,585 --> 00:12:06,605 the applicant can, um, 618 00:12:06,605 --> 00:12:07,658 continue, and, um, 619 00:12:07,658 --> 00:12:08,711 they remain 620 00:12:08,711 --> 00:12:09,567 available as 621 00:12:09,567 --> 00:12:10,620 presentation options 622 00:12:10,620 --> 00:12:11,904 applications for anyone, 623 00:12:11,904 --> 00:12:12,430 who wants 624 00:12:12,430 --> 00:12:13,681 to suggest a change 625 00:12:13,681 --> 00:12:14,800 zoning of the site 626 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,886 or anyone who 627 00:12:15,886 --> 00:12:17,071 wants to offer 628 00:12:17,071 --> 00:12:18,256 planned area 629 00:12:18,256 --> 00:12:19,400 buildings. Districts 630 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,149 planned 631 00:12:20,149 --> 00:12:21,287 buildings allow 632 00:12:21,287 --> 00:12:22,395 to consider any 633 00:12:22,395 --> 00:12:23,234 use in 634 00:12:23,234 --> 00:12:24,013 resolution on 635 00:12:24,013 --> 00:12:24,942 zoning, um, for 636 00:12:24,942 --> 00:12:25,451 except 637 00:12:25,451 --> 00:12:26,200 industrial 638 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,200 using. During 639 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,209 our discussions I 640 00:12:29,209 --> 00:12:30,102 noted that, uh, 641 00:12:30,102 --> 00:12:31,139 acting general 642 00:12:31,139 --> 00:12:32,004 the plan recommends 643 00:12:32,004 --> 00:12:33,099 general industrial 644 00:12:33,099 --> 00:12:34,254 using. He is not 645 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:34,840 recommends 646 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,425 commercial 647 00:12:35,425 --> 00:12:36,262 use on 648 00:12:36,262 --> 00:12:36,875 area or 649 00:12:36,875 --> 00:12:37,879 commercial zone 650 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:40,619 district in this area. 651 00:12:40,619 --> 00:12:42,158 The applicant stated that, 652 00:12:42,158 --> 00:12:43,736 uh, he would like to have, 653 00:12:43,736 --> 00:12:45,157 uh, some kind of instruction, 654 00:12:45,157 --> 00:12:46,696 which would provide, uh 655 00:12:46,696 --> 00:12:47,959 , relatively fast 656 00:12:47,959 --> 00:12:51,552 decision making. THERE ARE- 657 00:12:51,552 --> 00:12:52,612 eh, although the options 658 00:12:52,612 --> 00:12:53,884 application submission, uh, 659 00:12:53,884 --> 00:12:54,697 remain 660 00:12:54,697 --> 00:12:55,827 available, uh, I 661 00:12:55,827 --> 00:12:57,241 pointed out to the applicant that 662 00:12:57,241 --> 00:12:58,619 if, uh, he submits 663 00:12:58,619 --> 00:12:59,644 change request 664 00:12:59,644 --> 00:13:01,022 zoning, it will pass, 665 00:13:01,022 --> 00:13:02,188 uh, my own 666 00:13:02,188 --> 00:13:03,461 by, that is, after 667 00:13:03,461 --> 00:13:04,627 submitting an application for 668 00:13:04,627 --> 00:13:06,005 zoning change it 669 00:13:06,005 --> 00:13:06,853 falls into 670 00:13:06,853 --> 00:13:08,125 next order 671 00:13:08,125 --> 00:13:09,291 daily commission from 672 00:13:09,291 --> 00:13:10,741 planning. So, this is 673 00:13:10,741 --> 00:13:11,585 just a question 674 00:13:11,585 --> 00:13:12,339 public 675 00:13:12,339 --> 00:13:13,124 message, 676 00:13:13,124 --> 00:13:14,336 signs, etc. While, 677 00:13:14,336 --> 00:13:15,267 if this was an application 678 00:13:15,267 --> 00:13:15,836 on the project- 679 00:13:15,836 --> 00:13:16,819 technical plan, were 680 00:13:16,819 --> 00:13:17,776 b involved plans that 681 00:13:17,776 --> 00:13:18,810 could be much 682 00:13:18,810 --> 00:13:19,961 a longer process. Um, and 683 00:13:19,961 --> 00:13:20,905 again, this one 684 00:13:20,905 --> 00:13:21,879 process, this application 685 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:22,579 remains 686 00:13:22,579 --> 00:13:23,371 available for 687 00:13:23,371 --> 00:13:24,559 the applicant, but, um, uh, 688 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,685 in the interests of time and, 689 00:13:25,685 --> 00:13:26,447 probably for 690 00:13:26,447 --> 00:13:27,543 faster adoption 691 00:13:27,543 --> 00:13:28,304 decision, um, I 692 00:13:28,304 --> 00:13:29,339 noted that the change 693 00:13:29,339 --> 00:13:30,223 zoning when 694 00:13:30,223 --> 00:13:31,258 similar ones are coming 695 00:13:31,258 --> 00:13:32,202 applications, um, change 696 00:13:32,202 --> 00:13:33,328 zoning often, um, 697 00:13:33,328 --> 00:13:34,333 can lead to 698 00:13:34,333 --> 00:13:35,247 that the applicant 699 00:13:35,247 --> 00:13:36,160 will come before 700 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:36,769 commission with 701 00:13:36,769 --> 00:13:37,774 planning, before 702 00:13:37,774 --> 00:13:38,566 council, for, um, 703 00:13:38,566 --> 00:13:39,632 comments not only 704 00:13:39,632 --> 00:13:40,850 regarding zoning changes, 705 00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:41,307 but also about 706 00:13:41,307 --> 00:13:42,251 conceptual 707 00:13:42,251 --> 00:13:43,286 plan, even if 708 00:13:43,286 --> 00:13:44,443 conceptual plan 709 00:13:44,443 --> 00:13:47,183 is not mandatory. 710 00:13:47,183 --> 00:13:47,795 When, um, we 711 00:13:47,795 --> 00:13:48,786 considering changes 712 00:13:48,786 --> 00:13:49,864 zoning, especially 713 00:13:49,864 --> 00:13:50,914 zoning changes where 714 00:13:50,914 --> 00:13:52,080 this is not a conditional change 715 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,945 zoning, we consider all types 716 00:13:53,945 --> 00:13:55,053 land use in 717 00:13:55,053 --> 00:13:55,957 proposed 718 00:13:55,957 --> 00:13:57,094 zoning district, 719 00:13:57,094 --> 00:13:57,910 and not just those who 720 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:59,118 specified by the applicant. 721 00:13:59,118 --> 00:14:00,272 Therefore, although the applicant 722 00:14:00,272 --> 00:14:01,562 said, "um," about his 723 00:14:01,562 --> 00:14:02,682 intention, "um", to submit 724 00:14:02,682 --> 00:14:04,006 application for special 725 00:14:04,006 --> 00:14:05,194 land use 726 00:14:05,194 --> 00:14:06,348 for refueling, if 727 00:14:06,348 --> 00:14:07,570 zoning to C4, "um", 728 00:14:07,570 --> 00:14:08,894 will be approved, we, "um" 729 00:14:08,894 --> 00:14:09,980 , we consider all 730 00:14:09,980 --> 00:14:10,286 types 731 00:14:10,286 --> 00:14:11,576 land use in 732 00:14:11,576 --> 00:14:12,866 zoning district 733 00:14:12,866 --> 00:14:13,909 C4. Because if 734 00:14:13,909 --> 00:14:15,125 the property has a zone 735 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:16,279 C4, then the applicant will have 736 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:17,432 the right to apply 737 00:14:17,432 --> 00:14:18,087 for any 738 00:14:18,087 --> 00:14:19,241 land use, 739 00:14:19,241 --> 00:14:20,370 available in the district. 740 00:14:20,370 --> 00:14:21,060 At the bottom of the second 741 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:22,008 pages and at the top 742 00:14:22,008 --> 00:14:22,929 third page 743 00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:23,820 our report on 744 00:14:23,820 --> 00:14:24,453 we are staff 745 00:14:24,453 --> 00:14:26,630 we list all 746 00:14:26,630 --> 00:14:27,314 allowed and 747 00:14:27,314 --> 00:14:28,170 special types 748 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:29,283 land use in 749 00:14:29,283 --> 00:14:30,368 zoning district 750 00:14:30,368 --> 00:14:31,452 C4, and we copied and 751 00:14:31,452 --> 00:14:32,165 pasted this from 752 00:14:32,165 --> 00:14:32,907 resolutions on 753 00:14:32,907 --> 00:14:37,827 zoning. Hmm, for now 754 00:14:37,827 --> 00:14:39,022 there are some existing 755 00:14:39,022 --> 00:14:40,548 available C4 zones that 756 00:14:40,548 --> 00:14:43,712 are nearby. 757 00:14:43,712 --> 00:14:44,505 Hmm, the purpose and 758 00:14:44,505 --> 00:14:45,875 by district designation 759 00:14:45,875 --> 00:14:47,209 C4 is a provision, as 760 00:14:47,209 --> 00:14:48,327 stated in his 761 00:14:48,327 --> 00:14:49,769 name, transfer, 762 00:14:49,769 --> 00:14:51,211 uh, commercial, uh, 763 00:14:51,211 --> 00:14:51,788 or type 764 00:14:51,788 --> 00:14:52,869 service, 765 00:14:52,869 --> 00:14:53,771 related to 766 00:14:53,771 --> 00:14:54,989 highway. 767 00:14:54,989 --> 00:14:56,177 So, this is a transfer 768 00:14:56,177 --> 00:14:57,336 service area 769 00:14:57,336 --> 00:14:58,049 , which is more 770 00:14:58,049 --> 00:14:58,910 serves, uh, 771 00:14:58,910 --> 00:14:59,653 travelers 772 00:14:59,653 --> 00:15:00,734 highways. 773 00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:01,239 So, uh, 774 00:15:01,239 --> 00:15:02,428 gas stations 775 00:15:02,428 --> 00:15:03,201 listed as 776 00:15:03,201 --> 00:15:04,093 special types 777 00:15:04,093 --> 00:15:05,282 land use, and 778 00:15:05,282 --> 00:15:06,292 also, uh, stations 779 00:15:06,292 --> 00:15:07,214 multipurpose 780 00:15:07,214 --> 00:15:08,195 uses that 781 00:15:08,195 --> 00:15:08,908 can also 782 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,079 include restaurants. 783 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:11,045 Hmm, and also, uh, 784 00:15:11,045 --> 00:15:12,287 technical stations 785 00:15:12,287 --> 00:15:13,287 service 786 00:15:13,287 --> 00:15:14,633 cars that, uh, 787 00:15:14,633 --> 00:15:15,944 are engaged in repairs 788 00:15:15,944 --> 00:15:19,527 cars. On 789 00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:20,779 I-275 interchange and 790 00:15:20,779 --> 00:15:22,074 Michigan Avenue, and 791 00:15:22,074 --> 00:15:23,672 also around it, there is 792 00:15:23,672 --> 00:15:25,355 some C4 zones, as well as 793 00:15:25,355 --> 00:15:26,521 there are C4 zones that are 794 00:15:26,521 --> 00:15:27,471 free and 795 00:15:27,471 --> 00:15:28,938 potentially can 796 00:15:28,938 --> 00:15:30,579 to be built up, uh, 797 00:15:30,579 --> 00:15:31,788 with special 798 00:15:31,788 --> 00:15:33,428 land use, 799 00:15:33,428 --> 00:15:37,734 er, for refueling. 800 00:15:37,734 --> 00:15:38,648 Some of these areas 801 00:15:38,648 --> 00:15:39,562 are on 802 00:15:39,562 --> 00:15:40,606 Michigan intersections- 803 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:41,912 Avenue and Lots Road, which 804 00:15:41,912 --> 00:15:43,055 less than a mile away 805 00:15:43,055 --> 00:15:44,165 east of the object, and 806 00:15:44,165 --> 00:15:45,307 also in the north 807 00:15:45,307 --> 00:15:46,287 Michigan side- 808 00:15:46,287 --> 00:15:47,462 Avenue between Lots Road 809 00:15:47,462 --> 00:15:48,539 and Hannan Road, which 810 00:15:48,539 --> 00:15:49,715 a little more than 811 00:15:49,715 --> 00:15:52,359 a mile to the east. Um, so, 812 00:15:52,359 --> 00:15:53,644 looking at...When we 813 00:15:53,644 --> 00:15:54,735 considering a change 814 00:15:54,735 --> 00:15:55,538 zoning, we 815 00:15:55,538 --> 00:15:56,694 let's see if there is 816 00:15:56,694 --> 00:15:57,368 offer 817 00:15:57,368 --> 00:15:58,364 proposed 818 00:15:58,364 --> 00:15:59,263 zoning, is there any 819 00:15:59,263 --> 00:16:00,483 available opportunities 820 00:16:00,483 --> 00:16:01,254 for change 821 00:16:01,254 --> 00:16:02,474 zoning, or...Except 822 00:16:02,474 --> 00:16:03,566 whether it is suitable 823 00:16:03,566 --> 00:16:04,722 zoning change 824 00:16:04,722 --> 00:16:05,878 for the site and all 825 00:16:05,878 --> 00:16:07,740 criteria that we consider in 826 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:08,575 resolution on 827 00:16:08,575 --> 00:16:09,731 zoning, we also 828 00:16:09,731 --> 00:16:11,015 let's look at: are there any others 829 00:16:11,015 --> 00:16:12,300 available areas that 830 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:13,456 zoned, uh, what 831 00:16:13,456 --> 00:16:14,676 the applicant asks which 832 00:16:14,676 --> 00:16:15,575 are free, which 833 00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:16,827 are nearby, 834 00:16:16,827 --> 00:16:17,694 uh, just so 835 00:16:17,694 --> 00:16:18,850 to determine whether there is, uh, 836 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:19,749 available land 837 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:20,969 nearby or elsewhere 838 00:16:20,969 --> 00:16:21,804 place for, uh, 839 00:16:21,804 --> 00:16:22,800 proposed 840 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,956 land use, 841 00:16:23,956 --> 00:16:25,112 which can be more 842 00:16:25,112 --> 00:16:26,300 suitable based on 843 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:27,295 proposed 844 00:16:27,295 --> 00:16:29,006 district. Uh, finally, 845 00:16:29,006 --> 00:16:29,794 concerning 846 00:16:29,794 --> 00:16:30,612 automotive 847 00:16:30,612 --> 00:16:31,794 gas stations and 848 00:16:31,794 --> 00:16:32,673 multipurpose 849 00:16:32,673 --> 00:16:33,885 stations, then the resolution 850 00:16:33,885 --> 00:16:34,673 about zoning 851 00:16:34,673 --> 00:16:35,643 allows...gas 852 00:16:35,643 --> 00:16:36,310 speakers for 853 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:37,341 gas stations 854 00:16:37,341 --> 00:16:38,311 or automotive 855 00:16:38,311 --> 00:16:39,432 gas stations...in 856 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:40,341 four different 857 00:16:40,341 --> 00:16:41,707 areas of the community. Uh, 858 00:16:41,707 --> 00:16:42,902 first, the Cherry district 859 00:16:42,902 --> 00:16:43,699 Hill Village... 860 00:16:43,699 --> 00:16:44,740 allows refueling 861 00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:45,935 stations as permitted 862 00:16:45,935 --> 00:16:46,824 use, and 863 00:16:46,824 --> 00:16:48,019 currently there is a potential 864 00:16:48,019 --> 00:16:48,969 the developer who 865 00:16:48,969 --> 00:16:50,195 is considering the possibility 866 00:16:50,195 --> 00:16:50,899 construction 867 00:16:50,899 --> 00:16:52,033 gas station in 868 00:16:52,033 --> 00:16:53,924 Cherry Hill Village. 869 00:16:53,924 --> 00:16:54,578 Secondly, in 870 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:55,821 commercial district 871 00:16:55,821 --> 00:16:56,737 community C2, which 872 00:16:56,737 --> 00:16:57,293 allows 873 00:16:57,293 --> 00:16:58,110 using 874 00:16:58,110 --> 00:16:59,386 gas stations as 875 00:16:59,386 --> 00:17:00,204 special 876 00:17:00,204 --> 00:17:01,512 land use and 877 00:17:01,512 --> 00:17:02,559 limited only 878 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:03,508 reconstruction 879 00:17:03,508 --> 00:17:05,417 existing stations. 880 00:17:05,417 --> 00:17:06,685 So, some C2 zones 881 00:17:06,685 --> 00:17:07,920 to the entire community, who are not 882 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,188 located nearby 883 00:17:09,188 --> 00:17:10,323 solution, where there is already 884 00:17:10,323 --> 00:17:11,424 gas station, 885 00:17:11,424 --> 00:17:12,158 can be 886 00:17:12,158 --> 00:17:13,060 inappropriate 887 00:17:13,060 --> 00:17:14,361 using in that 888 00:17:14,361 --> 00:17:15,262 in the sense that they are not 889 00:17:15,262 --> 00:17:16,097 allowed 890 00:17:16,097 --> 00:17:17,399 to build as if it were 891 00:17:17,399 --> 00:17:18,533 new area if 892 00:17:18,533 --> 00:17:19,867 She is currently single. 893 00:17:19,867 --> 00:17:20,924 But the C2 district allows 894 00:17:20,924 --> 00:17:21,619 using 895 00:17:21,619 --> 00:17:22,705 gas station as 896 00:17:22,705 --> 00:17:23,400 special 897 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,402 land use, 898 00:17:24,402 --> 00:17:25,181 if it already exists 899 00:17:25,181 --> 00:17:26,099 free, but it's not 900 00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:27,156 necessarily means, 901 00:17:27,156 --> 00:17:27,629 what is she 902 00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:28,381 inappropriate 903 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:29,160 using, 904 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,633 because 905 00:17:29,633 --> 00:17:30,384 reconstruction 906 00:17:30,384 --> 00:17:31,413 there is a gas station 907 00:17:31,413 --> 00:17:32,053 special 908 00:17:32,053 --> 00:17:33,166 land use in 909 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:34,911 area C2. Thirdly, in 910 00:17:34,911 --> 00:17:35,763 regional 911 00:17:35,763 --> 00:17:36,961 commercial district 912 00:17:36,961 --> 00:17:38,065 C3, hmm, allowed 913 00:17:38,065 --> 00:17:38,854 using 914 00:17:38,854 --> 00:17:40,084 gas stations as 915 00:17:40,084 --> 00:17:40,873 special 916 00:17:40,873 --> 00:17:42,134 land use and 917 00:17:42,134 --> 00:17:43,143 limited only 918 00:17:43,143 --> 00:17:44,058 reconstruction 919 00:17:44,058 --> 00:17:46,045 existing gas stations or as 920 00:17:46,045 --> 00:17:47,212 auxiliary facilities 921 00:17:47,212 --> 00:17:48,032 for the main 922 00:17:48,032 --> 00:17:48,758 retail 923 00:17:48,758 --> 00:17:49,988 use or for 924 00:17:49,988 --> 00:17:51,155 individual tenants in 925 00:17:51,155 --> 00:17:52,164 shopping mall 926 00:17:52,164 --> 00:17:53,173 total area 927 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:54,404 over 50,000 square meters 928 00:17:54,404 --> 00:17:55,858 feet. So, this is 929 00:17:55,858 --> 00:17:56,716 concerns, 930 00:17:56,716 --> 00:17:58,238 for example, the current one 931 00:17:58,238 --> 00:17:59,643 gas stations on Meyer, 932 00:17:59,643 --> 00:18:00,619 um, the current one 933 00:18:00,619 --> 00:18:02,102 gas stations, um, at BJ's, where 934 00:18:02,102 --> 00:18:03,624 there is a retail store 935 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:04,834 with an area of ​​over 50,000 936 00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:06,288 square feet. AND, 937 00:18:06,288 --> 00:18:06,970 as a special 938 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:07,915 land use, 939 00:18:07,915 --> 00:18:08,860 retail store 940 00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:09,674 with an area of ​​over 50,000 941 00:18:09,674 --> 00:18:10,514 square feet 942 00:18:10,514 --> 00:18:11,512 can apply to 943 00:18:11,512 --> 00:18:12,536 within the boundaries of the C3 district, em, on 944 00:18:12,536 --> 00:18:13,534 gas station location 945 00:18:13,534 --> 00:18:14,408 in this area. AND 946 00:18:14,408 --> 00:18:15,040 again, this 947 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,497 special 948 00:18:15,497 --> 00:18:16,281 land use, 949 00:18:16,281 --> 00:18:16,630 that is, not 950 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:17,283 use by 951 00:18:17,283 --> 00:18:18,244 right. They must 952 00:18:18,244 --> 00:18:19,014 to answer all 953 00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:19,472 criteria 954 00:18:19,472 --> 00:18:20,073 special 955 00:18:20,073 --> 00:18:21,016 land use. 956 00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:22,271 Also, similar 957 00:18:22,271 --> 00:18:23,641 types of gas stations, if 958 00:18:23,641 --> 00:18:25,126 they will be offered somewhere 959 00:18:25,126 --> 00:18:26,648 along Michigan Avenue, 960 00:18:26,648 --> 00:18:28,056 um, Kroger will be able to submit 961 00:18:28,056 --> 00:18:29,312 application, Walmart will be able to 962 00:18:29,312 --> 00:18:30,941 submit an application. These are two 963 00:18:30,941 --> 00:18:32,104 retailers, 964 00:18:32,104 --> 00:18:33,077 which usually, um, 965 00:18:33,077 --> 00:18:33,800 are trying 966 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,679 to place, um, 967 00:18:34,679 --> 00:18:35,904 gas stations on many 968 00:18:35,904 --> 00:18:38,099 their facilities. Um, ah 969 00:18:38,099 --> 00:18:39,302 then the fourth, um, 970 00:18:39,302 --> 00:18:40,537 transfer area 971 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:41,610 C4 maintenance, 972 00:18:41,610 --> 00:18:42,456 which allows 973 00:18:42,456 --> 00:18:43,171 refueling as 974 00:18:43,171 --> 00:18:43,854 special 975 00:18:43,854 --> 00:18:45,579 land use. 976 00:18:45,579 --> 00:18:46,697 So, um, according to 977 00:18:46,697 --> 00:18:47,676 the text itself 978 00:18:47,676 --> 00:18:48,585 resolutions on 979 00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:49,843 zoning, there are four 980 00:18:49,843 --> 00:18:50,997 different zones where, um, 981 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:51,661 allowed 982 00:18:51,661 --> 00:18:53,025 to place gas stations 983 00:18:53,025 --> 00:18:54,900 . Besides, as I already 984 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:56,274 mentioned earlier, um, 985 00:18:56,274 --> 00:18:57,684 they could be, um, 986 00:18:57,684 --> 00:18:59,058 uh, they might be 987 00:18:59,058 --> 00:19:00,432 application submitted through 988 00:19:00,432 --> 00:19:01,806 PDD, the process of planning 989 00:19:01,806 --> 00:19:05,752 development of the district. Ahem, 990 00:19:05,752 --> 00:19:06,607 moving on to 991 00:19:06,607 --> 00:19:07,232 criteria 992 00:19:07,232 --> 00:19:08,120 rezoning 993 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:08,976 resolutions on 994 00:19:08,976 --> 00:19:10,094 zoning, there are 10 995 00:19:10,094 --> 00:19:11,212 criteria that must 996 00:19:11,212 --> 00:19:12,068 resolution on 997 00:19:12,068 --> 00:19:12,857 zoning and 998 00:19:12,857 --> 00:19:13,745 determine whether 999 00:19:13,745 --> 00:19:14,305 expedient 1000 00:19:14,305 --> 00:19:15,127 rezone 1001 00:19:15,127 --> 00:19:16,578 real estate. And these 1002 00:19:16,578 --> 00:19:17,059 criteria 1003 00:19:17,059 --> 00:19:18,020 apply to 1004 00:19:18,020 --> 00:19:18,784 of all applications for 1005 00:19:18,784 --> 00:19:19,802 rezoning, not 1006 00:19:19,802 --> 00:19:20,651 only to those who are 1007 00:19:20,651 --> 00:19:21,499 unique for 1008 00:19:21,499 --> 00:19:22,489 certain areas or 1009 00:19:22,489 --> 00:19:23,592 certain use 1010 00:19:23,592 --> 00:19:24,517 . Um, I just, um, 1011 00:19:24,517 --> 00:19:25,697 I will touch on a few of 1012 00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:26,845 them, um, in the conclusions 1013 00:19:26,845 --> 00:19:28,120 staff regarding all 10 1014 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,299 of them in our report 1015 00:19:29,299 --> 00:19:30,511 staff, so I 1016 00:19:30,511 --> 00:19:31,339 won't have to 1017 00:19:31,339 --> 00:19:32,232 view and 1018 00:19:32,232 --> 00:19:33,380 repeat them all, 1019 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:35,770 but two that I want to note, these are the first 1020 00:19:35,770 --> 00:19:37,032 two criteria. First- 1021 00:19:37,032 --> 00:19:37,826 is this, um, will it be 1022 00:19:37,826 --> 00:19:38,651 proposed 1023 00:19:38,651 --> 00:19:39,873 amendment to respond 1024 00:19:39,873 --> 00:19:41,002 basic intentions and 1025 00:19:41,002 --> 00:19:42,071 the purpose of the resolution on 1026 00:19:42,071 --> 00:19:45,502 zoning. Um, in this one 1027 00:19:45,502 --> 00:19:46,806 part of the criteria in 1028 00:19:46,806 --> 00:19:47,863 upper part 1029 00:19:47,863 --> 00:19:49,132 fourth page 1030 00:19:49,132 --> 00:19:49,977 our report 1031 00:19:49,977 --> 00:19:50,823 staff we 1032 00:19:50,823 --> 00:19:51,739 copied and 1033 00:19:51,739 --> 00:19:52,972 inserted, um, a statement 1034 00:19:52,972 --> 00:19:54,276 about the purpose and intentions of 1035 00:19:54,276 --> 00:19:55,685 C-4 zoning district, and 1036 00:19:55,685 --> 00:19:56,602 it is highlighted 1037 00:19:56,602 --> 00:19:57,940 italic in the middle 1038 00:19:57,940 --> 00:20:01,790 pages. And, um, first 1039 00:20:01,790 --> 00:20:02,976 the sentence says: " 1040 00:20:02,976 --> 00:20:03,992 The purpose of creation 1041 00:20:03,992 --> 00:20:05,144 service area 1042 00:20:05,144 --> 00:20:06,025 C-4 transplants are 1043 00:20:06,025 --> 00:20:06,872 software 1044 00:20:06,872 --> 00:20:07,820 opportunities for 1045 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:08,396 development 1046 00:20:08,396 --> 00:20:09,751 regional business 1047 00:20:09,751 --> 00:20:10,463 areas that 1048 00:20:10,463 --> 00:20:11,344 adjacent to 1049 00:20:11,344 --> 00:20:12,021 solution 1050 00:20:12,021 --> 00:20:14,030 motorways". Therefore, 1051 00:20:14,030 --> 00:20:15,451 the first sentence indicates 1052 00:20:15,451 --> 00:20:16,871 on what should be, hmm, 1053 00:20:16,871 --> 00:20:17,746 contiguity with 1054 00:20:17,746 --> 00:20:18,584 solution, 1055 00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:19,895 regardless of whether 1056 00:20:19,895 --> 00:20:20,952 or the area itself 1057 00:20:20,952 --> 00:20:21,753 adjacent to 1058 00:20:21,753 --> 00:20:24,158 solutions, as well as in some areas 1059 00:20:24,158 --> 00:20:25,178 communities where, um, 1060 00:20:25,178 --> 00:20:26,380 C-4 site may not 1061 00:20:26,380 --> 00:20:27,254 to adhere to 1062 00:20:27,254 --> 00:20:28,602 solutions, but it 1063 00:20:28,602 --> 00:20:29,805 adjacent to others 1064 00:20:29,805 --> 00:20:31,080 areas of zone C-4, hmm, 1065 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,282 which are adjacent to 1066 00:20:32,282 --> 00:20:33,803 solutions. So, hmm, 1067 00:20:33,803 --> 00:20:34,669 based on 1068 00:20:34,669 --> 00:20:36,141 location of this 1069 00:20:36,141 --> 00:20:37,570 adjacent area 1070 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,755 there is no C-4 zone. She 1071 00:20:39,755 --> 00:20:41,083 much further from 1072 00:20:41,083 --> 00:20:42,652 solutions, hmm, than, hmm 1073 00:20:42,652 --> 00:20:43,698 , many others 1074 00:20:43,698 --> 00:20:44,543 areas that 1075 00:20:44,543 --> 00:20:46,113 are in the area 1076 00:20:46,113 --> 00:20:47,642 C-4, hmm, closer to this one 1077 00:20:47,642 --> 00:20:51,111 solutions. Um, we don't 1078 00:20:51,111 --> 00:20:51,917 we believe that 1079 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:53,248 proposed statement 1080 00:20:53,248 --> 00:20:54,473 to change zoning 1081 00:20:54,473 --> 00:20:55,419 will respond 1082 00:20:55,419 --> 00:20:56,750 the first criterion, which 1083 00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:57,801 she answers 1084 00:20:57,801 --> 00:20:59,097 basic intentions and 1085 00:20:59,097 --> 00:21:00,323 the purpose of the resolution on 1086 00:21:00,323 --> 00:21:01,724 zoning, based on 1087 00:21:01,724 --> 00:21:02,810 some others, um, 1088 00:21:02,810 --> 00:21:04,036 criteria of intentions, 1089 00:21:04,036 --> 00:21:05,331 mentioned in our 1090 00:21:05,331 --> 00:21:06,733 report, but taking into account 1091 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:07,818 statement of intent 1092 00:21:07,818 --> 00:21:09,114 district C-4, where district C4 1093 00:21:09,114 --> 00:21:10,515 should be adjacent to 1094 00:21:10,515 --> 00:21:11,251 solution with 1095 00:21:11,251 --> 00:21:13,946 highways. Second 1096 00:21:13,946 --> 00:21:16,060 the criterion that we note in the change 1097 00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:17,259 zoning, consists of 1098 00:21:17,259 --> 00:21:18,395 therefore, whether it corresponds 1099 00:21:18,395 --> 00:21:19,246 proposed 1100 00:21:19,246 --> 00:21:19,783 amendment 1101 00:21:19,783 --> 00:21:20,919 comprehensive plan 1102 00:21:20,919 --> 00:21:21,865 or general 1103 00:21:21,865 --> 00:21:23,588 village plan. Ahem, 1104 00:21:23,588 --> 00:21:24,697 map of the future 1105 00:21:24,697 --> 00:21:25,838 land use 1106 00:21:25,838 --> 00:21:27,011 master plan 1107 00:21:27,011 --> 00:21:28,185 classifies the area 1108 00:21:28,185 --> 00:21:28,348 as 1109 00:21:28,348 --> 00:21:29,587 general industrial, 1110 00:21:29,587 --> 00:21:30,630 and characteristics 1111 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:31,901 general industrial 1112 00:21:31,901 --> 00:21:33,466 zones are described on page 207 1113 00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:34,151 accepted 1114 00:21:34,151 --> 00:21:36,839 master plan. AND 1115 00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:38,113 until the adoption of the current 1116 00:21:38,113 --> 00:21:39,289 master plan 1117 00:21:39,289 --> 00:21:40,269 previous map 1118 00:21:40,269 --> 00:21:41,020 future 1119 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:42,163 land use 1120 00:21:42,163 --> 00:21:43,339 previous plan 1121 00:21:43,339 --> 00:21:44,221 classified 1122 00:21:44,221 --> 00:21:45,397 the area as mixed, 1123 00:21:45,397 --> 00:21:46,443 which recommended 1124 00:21:46,443 --> 00:21:47,717 zoning change to LI, 1125 00:21:47,717 --> 00:21:49,478 office or C3. Uh, on 1126 00:21:49,478 --> 00:21:50,378 based on estimates that 1127 00:21:50,378 --> 00:21:51,418 were held during 1128 00:21:51,418 --> 00:21:52,149 preparation and 1129 00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:53,218 acceptance of the current 1130 00:21:53,218 --> 00:21:54,314 master plan, e 1131 00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:55,017 -eh, what took 1132 00:21:55,017 --> 00:21:56,114 about three or four 1133 00:21:56,114 --> 00:21:57,154 years, uh, this area 1134 00:21:57,154 --> 00:21:58,138 was recognized more 1135 00:21:58,138 --> 00:21:58,870 suitable for 1136 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:59,404 general 1137 00:21:59,404 --> 00:22:00,529 industry, and it 1138 00:22:00,529 --> 00:22:01,485 classified as 1139 00:22:01,485 --> 00:22:02,188 this is on the map 1140 00:22:02,188 --> 00:22:02,834 future 1141 00:22:02,834 --> 00:22:03,818 land use 1142 00:22:03,818 --> 00:22:04,663 today. Uh, 1143 00:22:04,663 --> 00:22:05,388 based on her 1144 00:22:05,388 --> 00:22:06,490 location, uh, and 1145 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:07,621 surrounding lands, e 1146 00:22:07,621 --> 00:22:08,490 -e, classification 1147 00:22:08,490 --> 00:22:09,157 future 1148 00:22:09,157 --> 00:22:10,317 land use with 1149 00:22:10,317 --> 00:22:10,810 mixed 1150 00:22:10,810 --> 00:22:11,853 was used 1151 00:22:11,853 --> 00:22:13,013 reduced in size, 1152 00:22:13,013 --> 00:22:13,912 because she is not 1153 00:22:13,912 --> 00:22:14,665 suitable for 1154 00:22:14,665 --> 00:22:15,593 many areas 1155 00:22:15,593 --> 00:22:16,724 Michigan Avenue and there, 1156 00:22:16,724 --> 00:22:17,593 Where was she, uh, 1157 00:22:17,593 --> 00:22:18,405 provided for 1158 00:22:18,405 --> 00:22:19,333 previous map 1159 00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:21,071 master plan. THERE ARE 1160 00:22:21,071 --> 00:22:22,276 -e, map of the future 1161 00:22:22,276 --> 00:22:23,358 land use 1162 00:22:23,358 --> 00:22:24,470 master plan 1163 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:25,582 classifies the area 1164 00:22:25,582 --> 00:22:26,293 in the west as 1165 00:22:26,293 --> 00:22:27,281 light industrial, 1166 00:22:27,281 --> 00:22:28,394 the area in the east as 1167 00:22:28,394 --> 00:22:29,568 general industrial, 1168 00:22:29,568 --> 00:22:30,680 and the area in the south 1169 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,699 like a landfill, 1170 00:22:31,699 --> 00:22:32,503 because it 1171 00:22:32,503 --> 00:22:33,708 includes Canton Renewables, which 1172 00:22:33,708 --> 00:22:34,356 is a factory with 1173 00:22:34,356 --> 00:22:35,160 recycling and 1174 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,396 landfill recycling 1175 00:22:36,396 --> 00:22:37,353 gas, as well as himself 1176 00:22:37,353 --> 00:22:38,833 landfill. Uh, this is 1177 00:22:38,833 --> 00:22:39,991 some are quite heavy 1178 00:22:39,991 --> 00:22:40,852 industrial and 1179 00:22:40,852 --> 00:22:41,844 intensive types 1180 00:22:41,844 --> 00:22:42,870 use that 1181 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:43,731 adjacent to 1182 00:22:43,731 --> 00:22:44,360 areas, and 1183 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:45,650 replanning it for 1184 00:22:45,650 --> 00:22:46,643 uh, commercial 1185 00:22:46,643 --> 00:22:48,728 district, uh, we consider it inappropriate 1186 00:22:48,728 --> 00:22:52,357 . Also, um, in 1187 00:22:52,357 --> 00:22:53,733 the master plan is 1188 00:22:53,733 --> 00:22:54,792 special zones 1189 00:22:54,792 --> 00:22:56,133 planning in the east, 1190 00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:56,838 um, this is the zone 1191 00:22:56,838 --> 00:22:58,108 Michigan planning- 1192 00:22:58,108 --> 00:22:59,308 avenue, and in the south, 1193 00:22:59,308 --> 00:23:00,049 which is the zone 1194 00:23:00,049 --> 00:23:00,790 planning 1195 00:23:00,790 --> 00:23:03,829 landfills. Ahem, 1196 00:23:03,829 --> 00:23:04,832 they celebrate 1197 00:23:04,832 --> 00:23:05,897 problems on them and 1198 00:23:05,897 --> 00:23:06,367 near 1199 00:23:06,367 --> 00:23:07,464 landfills, but 1200 00:23:07,464 --> 00:23:08,592 they do not indicate 1201 00:23:08,592 --> 00:23:09,187 support 1202 00:23:09,187 --> 00:23:09,907 future 1203 00:23:09,907 --> 00:23:10,847 zoning C-4 or 1204 00:23:10,847 --> 00:23:11,442 similar 1205 00:23:11,442 --> 00:23:12,226 commercial 1206 00:23:12,226 --> 00:23:13,385 use on these 1207 00:23:13,385 --> 00:23:15,703 areas. Hmm, finally, 1208 00:23:15,703 --> 00:23:16,831 regarding the general 1209 00:23:16,831 --> 00:23:17,827 zoning plan 1210 00:23:17,827 --> 00:23:18,624 C-4 territories, 1211 00:23:18,624 --> 00:23:19,686 master plan 1212 00:23:19,686 --> 00:23:20,383 recommends 1213 00:23:20,383 --> 00:23:21,445 to place these 1214 00:23:21,445 --> 00:23:22,673 plots in general 1215 00:23:22,673 --> 00:23:23,802 commercial areas 1216 00:23:23,802 --> 00:23:24,864 future map 1217 00:23:24,864 --> 00:23:27,426 land use. AND 1218 00:23:27,426 --> 00:23:28,515 characteristics 1219 00:23:28,515 --> 00:23:29,228 general 1220 00:23:29,228 --> 00:23:30,355 commercial areas 1221 00:23:30,355 --> 00:23:31,744 described on the page 1222 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,208 199 of the master plan 1223 00:23:33,208 --> 00:23:34,641 . Um, although the earth 1224 00:23:34,641 --> 00:23:35,447 directly on 1225 00:23:35,447 --> 00:23:36,405 north, on the north 1226 00:23:36,405 --> 00:23:37,160 Michigan side- 1227 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,816 avenue, which, um, 1228 00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:38,521 is located on 1229 00:23:38,521 --> 00:23:39,327 distances over 200 1230 00:23:39,327 --> 00:23:40,260 feet across the boulevard 1231 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:41,066 and separating 1232 00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:41,746 the strip, um, although 1233 00:23:41,746 --> 00:23:42,351 part of this 1234 00:23:42,351 --> 00:23:42,830 property 1235 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:43,687 classified as 1236 00:23:43,687 --> 00:23:44,644 general commercial 1237 00:23:44,644 --> 00:23:45,526 on the future map 1238 00:23:45,526 --> 00:23:46,433 land use, 1239 00:23:46,433 --> 00:23:47,088 um, this area 1240 00:23:47,088 --> 00:23:47,794 is located on 1241 00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:48,600 distances over 200 1242 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,695 feet. It is divided. 1243 00:23:49,695 --> 00:23:50,182 state 1244 00:23:50,182 --> 00:23:51,079 highway, and 1245 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:51,900 some of these species 1246 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:52,669 use on 1247 00:23:52,669 --> 00:23:54,183 north side 1248 00:23:54,183 --> 00:23:55,240 Michigan Avenue has 1249 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,869 a little more 1250 00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:56,984 commercial nature 1251 00:23:56,984 --> 00:23:58,109 . They are located 1252 00:23:58,109 --> 00:23:58,608 further from 1253 00:23:58,608 --> 00:24:00,855 landfills. Um, me too 1254 00:24:00,855 --> 00:24:01,962 I will not consider 1255 00:24:01,962 --> 00:24:03,195 the other eight criteria 1256 00:24:03,195 --> 00:24:04,270 and conclusions, although 1257 00:24:04,270 --> 00:24:05,377 I can answer 1258 00:24:05,377 --> 00:24:06,136 questions and 1259 00:24:06,136 --> 00:24:07,306 discuss them more 1260 00:24:07,306 --> 00:24:08,583 in detail. Ahem, 1261 00:24:08,583 --> 00:24:09,939 our recommendation 1262 00:24:09,939 --> 00:24:11,032 editorial office, um, this 1263 00:24:11,032 --> 00:24:12,312 recommendation regarding 1264 00:24:12,312 --> 00:24:12,990 refusals 1265 00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:14,346 satisfaction of the application 1266 00:24:14,346 --> 00:24:15,795 to C-4 zoning. Ahem, 1267 00:24:15,795 --> 00:24:17,034 regarding the change request 1268 00:24:17,034 --> 00:24:18,273 zoning, commission on 1269 00:24:18,273 --> 00:24:19,447 planning should 1270 00:24:19,447 --> 00:24:20,686 to give a recommendation 1271 00:24:20,686 --> 00:24:22,298 to the village council of trustees. 1272 00:24:22,298 --> 00:24:23,413 Hmm, application-commission with 1273 00:24:23,413 --> 00:24:24,318 planning can 1274 00:24:24,318 --> 00:24:25,133 recommend 1275 00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:25,917 approval or 1276 00:24:25,917 --> 00:24:26,973 deviation, um, or 1277 00:24:26,973 --> 00:24:28,149 planning commission 1278 00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:28,993 can postpone 1279 00:24:28,993 --> 00:24:29,989 consideration of the application to 1280 00:24:29,989 --> 00:24:31,165 consideration of information, 1281 00:24:31,165 --> 00:24:31,889 received on 1282 00:24:31,889 --> 00:24:32,583 public 1283 00:24:32,583 --> 00:24:33,397 hearings, or 1284 00:24:33,397 --> 00:24:34,603 getting additional 1285 00:24:34,603 --> 00:24:35,267 information, 1286 00:24:35,267 --> 00:24:36,111 necessary for 1287 00:24:36,111 --> 00:24:37,318 giving a recommendation 1288 00:24:37,318 --> 00:24:38,830 village council. Hmm, change 1289 00:24:38,830 --> 00:24:39,800 zoning cannot 1290 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,653 to be approved by 1291 00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:41,535 conditions, if these 1292 00:24:41,535 --> 00:24:42,387 the conditions will not be 1293 00:24:42,387 --> 00:24:43,005 specially 1294 00:24:43,005 --> 00:24:43,799 proposed 1295 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:44,886 by the applicant, um, through 1296 00:24:44,886 --> 00:24:45,798 conditional application for 1297 00:24:45,798 --> 00:24:46,976 zoning change. Ahem, 1298 00:24:46,976 --> 00:24:47,990 based on our 1299 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:49,102 criteria analysis 1300 00:24:49,102 --> 00:24:49,953 resolutions on 1301 00:24:49,953 --> 00:24:50,738 zoning and 1302 00:24:50,738 --> 00:24:51,948 consideration of the application, um, 1303 00:24:51,948 --> 00:24:53,061 our recommendation 1304 00:24:53,061 --> 00:24:54,336 consists in rejecting 1305 00:24:54,336 --> 00:24:55,252 zoning C-4 on 1306 00:24:55,252 --> 00:24:56,596 the appropriate area. 1307 00:24:56,596 --> 00:24:57,643 Um, in the application or in 1308 00:24:57,643 --> 00:24:58,854 staff report, um, 1309 00:24:58,854 --> 00:24:59,770 we prepared 1310 00:24:59,770 --> 00:25:01,046 typical request, um 1311 00:25:01,046 --> 00:25:02,159 , about the recommendation 1312 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:03,141 regarding the deviation 1313 00:25:03,141 --> 00:25:04,090 change request 1314 00:25:04,090 --> 00:25:05,430 zoning. Hmm, however, 1315 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:06,334 if there is another 1316 00:25:06,334 --> 00:25:07,641 recommendation, um, or 1317 00:25:07,641 --> 00:25:08,545 recommend 1318 00:25:08,545 --> 00:25:09,449 approval, or 1319 00:25:09,449 --> 00:25:10,588 postpone consideration 1320 00:25:10,588 --> 00:25:11,659 applications, we can 1321 00:25:11,659 --> 00:25:12,429 prepare 1322 00:25:12,429 --> 00:25:13,334 alternative 1323 00:25:13,334 --> 00:25:14,673 petition, um, for that one 1324 00:25:14,673 --> 00:25:15,642 time. So, on this 1325 00:25:15,642 --> 00:25:16,422 ours is coming to an end 1326 00:25:16,422 --> 00:25:17,763 staff report, and I will be glad. 1327 00:25:17,763 --> 00:25:18,616 to answer any 1328 00:25:18,616 --> 00:25:19,351 What questions? 1329 00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:20,813 Thank you, Patrick. Or 1330 00:25:20,813 --> 00:25:21,957 sponsor present 1331 00:25:21,957 --> 00:25:26,732 project? Is present? 1332 00:25:26,732 --> 00:25:27,612 sponsor of this 1333 00:25:27,612 --> 00:25:33,715 project? Good. You 1334 00:25:33,715 --> 00:25:34,753 want to express 1335 00:25:34,753 --> 00:25:35,633 your position? 1336 00:25:35,633 --> 00:25:36,638 Commissioners, hello, 1337 00:25:36,638 --> 00:25:37,486 My name is Ari. 1338 00:25:37,486 --> 00:25:39,401 Goldstein. I am a lawyer. 1339 00:25:39,401 --> 00:25:41,809 WB Real Estate Ventures. 1340 00:25:41,809 --> 00:25:43,610 Good. 1341 00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:44,917 So, uh, we're very 1342 00:25:44,917 --> 00:25:46,267 appreciate, uh, the report 1343 00:25:46,267 --> 00:25:48,818 staff. Um, you know, 1344 00:25:48,818 --> 00:25:51,278 I think we, we, and we want to start with 1345 00:25:51,278 --> 00:25:52,562 problem solving 1346 00:25:52,562 --> 00:25:53,667 threshold: if, uh, 1347 00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:54,559 open, uh, 1348 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:55,914 C4 rezoning, which 1349 00:25:55,914 --> 00:25:57,269 you know, it could be 1350 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:58,624 use for 1351 00:25:58,624 --> 00:25:59,943 any quantity 1352 00:25:59,943 --> 00:26:01,084 permitted species 1353 00:26:01,084 --> 00:26:02,332 use in C4, there is 1354 00:26:02,332 --> 00:26:03,759 the main question, we 1355 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:06,005 would be more than happy to discuss with 1356 00:26:06,005 --> 00:26:06,754 staff 1357 00:26:06,754 --> 00:26:08,038 planning, you know, 1358 00:26:08,038 --> 00:26:08,787 possibility 1359 00:26:08,787 --> 00:26:10,177 holding a conditional, 1360 00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:11,425 uh, rezoning, 1361 00:26:11,425 --> 00:26:12,210 which, you know, 1362 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:13,137 would record 1363 00:26:13,137 --> 00:26:15,603 previous projects. I mean, here 1364 00:26:15,603 --> 00:26:16,698 there is no attempt 1365 00:26:16,698 --> 00:26:17,882 to replace someone, but 1366 00:26:17,882 --> 00:26:18,680 if we want 1367 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,805 to formalize this, we 1368 00:26:19,805 --> 00:26:20,899 completely, um, ready 1369 00:26:20,899 --> 00:26:21,787 to cooperate with 1370 00:26:21,787 --> 00:26:22,497 staff with 1371 00:26:22,497 --> 00:26:24,394 planning on this. 1372 00:26:24,394 --> 00:26:25,126 Now I want 1373 00:26:25,126 --> 00:26:26,210 consider a few 1374 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,198 points from the report 1375 00:26:27,198 --> 00:26:30,005 staff. Because I think 1376 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:31,313 that like many others 1377 00:26:31,313 --> 00:26:32,514 legal matters, there are 1378 00:26:32,514 --> 00:26:33,751 several ways to do them 1379 00:26:33,751 --> 00:26:36,739 read, right? 1380 00:26:36,739 --> 00:26:38,244 And here is the definition, which 1381 00:26:38,244 --> 00:26:39,324 I, I, I'm going 1382 00:26:39,324 --> 00:26:40,868 read more than 1383 00:26:40,868 --> 00:26:42,373 just the first sentence 1384 00:26:42,373 --> 00:26:43,376 resolutions on 1385 00:26:43,376 --> 00:26:44,341 zoning, which 1386 00:26:44,341 --> 00:26:47,053 defines the purpose of C4. 1387 00:26:47,053 --> 00:26:48,432 We already have the first sentence. 1388 00:26:48,432 --> 00:26:49,899 heard. It says, um, 1389 00:26:49,899 --> 00:26:50,904 what is the purpose of the district 1390 00:26:50,904 --> 00:26:51,909 service 1391 00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:53,227 transfer node 1392 00:26:53,227 --> 00:26:54,301 C4 is the provision 1393 00:26:54,301 --> 00:26:55,272 opportunities for 1394 00:26:55,272 --> 00:26:55,861 development 1395 00:26:55,861 --> 00:26:57,248 regional business 1396 00:26:57,248 --> 00:26:57,976 areas that 1397 00:26:57,976 --> 00:26:58,877 adjacent to 1398 00:26:58,877 --> 00:26:59,820 motorways. IN 1399 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:00,597 resolution on 1400 00:27:00,597 --> 00:27:01,733 zoning actually 1401 00:27:01,733 --> 00:27:02,331 not possible 1402 00:27:02,331 --> 00:27:03,497 definition of "adjacent" 1403 00:27:03,497 --> 00:27:04,669 . Well, and, you know, 1404 00:27:04,669 --> 00:27:05,573 Cambridge 1405 00:27:05,573 --> 00:27:06,845 English dictionary 1406 00:27:06,845 --> 00:27:07,983 languages, as you know, 1407 00:27:07,983 --> 00:27:08,753 says that 1408 00:27:08,753 --> 00:27:09,657 most common 1409 00:27:09,657 --> 00:27:10,929 the meaning of "adjacent" is " 1410 00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:14,062 nearby". So, maybe 1411 00:27:14,062 --> 00:27:14,898 , we now have 1412 00:27:14,898 --> 00:27:16,088 linear problem 1413 00:27:16,088 --> 00:27:17,245 drawing, because how 1414 00:27:17,245 --> 00:27:18,467 far from the junction 1415 00:27:18,467 --> 00:27:19,689 motorways are needed 1416 00:27:19,689 --> 00:27:20,847 to be, to cease 1417 00:27:20,847 --> 00:27:22,068 to be with her, to 1418 00:27:22,068 --> 00:27:25,667 stop being around? 1419 00:27:25,667 --> 00:27:27,029 And then we will continue. 1420 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:28,278 read. To types 1421 00:27:28,278 --> 00:27:29,017 businesses that 1422 00:27:29,017 --> 00:27:30,301 are considered appropriate 1423 00:27:30,301 --> 00:27:31,200 in this area, 1424 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,485 belong to regional 1425 00:27:32,485 --> 00:27:33,673 shopping centers, 1426 00:27:33,673 --> 00:27:34,700 office buildings, and 1427 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:35,599 This is exactly what I'm on. 1428 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:36,177 I will stop, 1429 00:27:36,177 --> 00:27:37,173 enterprises that 1430 00:27:37,173 --> 00:27:38,457 serve the needs 1431 00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:39,645 those who travel to 1432 00:27:39,645 --> 00:27:40,576 within or through 1433 00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:42,001 village. And I can't 1434 00:27:42,001 --> 00:27:43,216 come up with nothing that 1435 00:27:43,216 --> 00:27:44,495 would be suitable for this 1436 00:27:44,495 --> 00:27:45,742 better than refueling with 1437 00:27:45,742 --> 00:27:46,541 food directly on 1438 00:27:46,541 --> 00:27:49,125 the main highway. 1439 00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:50,720 Uh, so I think there is, 1440 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,837 yes, there is a possibility 1441 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,403 read it in its entirety. 1442 00:27:54,403 --> 00:27:55,622 And, uh, to deepen 1443 00:27:55,622 --> 00:27:56,282 this is holistic 1444 00:27:56,282 --> 00:27:57,567 interpretation, I want to 1445 00:27:57,567 --> 00:27:58,721 please contact me 1446 00:27:58,721 --> 00:27:59,941 master plan, 1447 00:27:59,941 --> 00:28:01,062 which determines, uh, 1448 00:28:01,062 --> 00:28:02,216 or is considering an idea 1449 00:28:02,216 --> 00:28:02,908 general 1450 00:28:02,908 --> 00:28:04,194 commercial district, 1451 00:28:04,194 --> 00:28:05,480 which C4, uh, how much 1452 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,700 this is about the map 1453 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:07,458 future 1454 00:28:07,458 --> 00:28:08,645 land use, 1455 00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:09,634 should be located 1456 00:28:09,634 --> 00:28:10,886 inside the general 1457 00:28:10,886 --> 00:28:13,039 commercial areas. Goal 1458 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,064 , as indicated for 1459 00:28:14,064 --> 00:28:14,655 general 1460 00:28:14,655 --> 00:28:15,618 commercial areas, 1461 00:28:15,618 --> 00:28:16,767 consists in creating 1462 00:28:16,767 --> 00:28:18,010 regional business 1463 00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:18,973 areas near 1464 00:28:18,973 --> 00:28:19,656 junctions 1465 00:28:19,656 --> 00:28:22,253 motorway. So, if 1466 00:28:22,253 --> 00:28:23,093 the whole concept 1467 00:28:23,093 --> 00:28:23,772 general 1468 00:28:23,772 --> 00:28:25,000 commercial district 1469 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,196 consists in creating 1470 00:28:26,196 --> 00:28:27,489 regional business 1471 00:28:27,489 --> 00:28:28,490 areas near 1472 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:29,201 junctions 1473 00:28:29,201 --> 00:28:30,494 highway, then I have 1474 00:28:30,494 --> 00:28:31,205 meaning that on 1475 00:28:31,205 --> 00:28:32,175 future map 1476 00:28:32,175 --> 00:28:33,403 land use is 1477 00:28:33,403 --> 00:28:34,696 a lot of property, which 1478 00:28:34,696 --> 00:28:35,956 zoned as general 1479 00:28:35,956 --> 00:28:39,274 commercial, right? 1480 00:28:39,274 --> 00:28:40,225 Including, uh, 1481 00:28:40,225 --> 00:28:41,353 a piece of land that 1482 00:28:41,353 --> 00:28:42,657 runs south 1483 00:28:42,657 --> 00:28:43,855 from Michigan Avenue, 1484 00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:45,265 maybe two or three 1485 00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:46,675 areas further from this one 1486 00:28:46,675 --> 00:28:50,257 plots. So it's not that 1487 00:28:50,257 --> 00:28:51,418 on this corridor and 1488 00:28:51,418 --> 00:28:52,515 this side of Michigan- 1489 00:28:52,515 --> 00:28:53,225 there is no avenue 1490 00:28:53,225 --> 00:28:54,031 commercial 1491 00:28:54,031 --> 00:28:56,499 using. 1492 00:28:56,499 --> 00:28:57,683 In fact, most 1493 00:28:57,683 --> 00:28:58,656 neighboring areas 1494 00:28:58,656 --> 00:28:59,172 actually 1495 00:28:59,172 --> 00:29:00,387 used for 1496 00:29:00,387 --> 00:29:05,205 commercial purposes. 1497 00:29:05,205 --> 00:29:06,422 So, uh, I'm a little 1498 00:29:06,422 --> 00:29:12,400 I'll jump here. Uh, me 1499 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,131 I want to contribute 1500 00:29:13,131 --> 00:29:14,195 corrections, I want 1501 00:29:14,195 --> 00:29:15,392 consider this idea, 1502 00:29:15,392 --> 00:29:16,589 what if you approve 1503 00:29:16,589 --> 00:29:17,852 this is rezoning, this is 1504 00:29:17,852 --> 00:29:19,082 can open the door 1505 00:29:19,082 --> 00:29:21,343 for anyone to appeal any 1506 00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:22,041 zoning 1507 00:29:22,041 --> 00:29:23,171 classification of any 1508 00:29:23,171 --> 00:29:23,470 whose 1509 00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:24,767 general industrial 1510 00:29:24,767 --> 00:29:27,325 plots in the town. THERE ARE- 1511 00:29:27,325 --> 00:29:28,265 uh, we have a few 1512 00:29:28,265 --> 00:29:29,362 specific reasons, 1513 00:29:29,362 --> 00:29:30,489 why do we think this 1514 00:29:30,489 --> 00:29:31,554 the site is appropriate 1515 00:29:31,554 --> 00:29:32,813 for rezoning. AND 1516 00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:33,837 I already mentioned that 1517 00:29:33,837 --> 00:29:34,427 majority 1518 00:29:34,427 --> 00:29:35,607 surrounding areas 1519 00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:36,849 used for 1520 00:29:36,849 --> 00:29:38,466 commercial purposes. It 1521 00:29:38,466 --> 00:29:39,445 also comparatively 1522 00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:40,685 small industrial 1523 00:29:40,685 --> 00:29:42,127 area. Uh, a lot 1524 00:29:42,127 --> 00:29:43,347 industrial areas 1525 00:29:43,347 --> 00:29:44,534 in the town a lot 1526 00:29:44,534 --> 00:29:46,780 bigger than this one. And a lot 1527 00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:47,413 permitted 1528 00:29:47,413 --> 00:29:48,439 industrial species 1529 00:29:48,439 --> 00:29:49,283 use in 1530 00:29:49,283 --> 00:29:50,309 industrial zones 1531 00:29:50,309 --> 00:29:51,183 have requirements for 1532 00:29:51,183 --> 00:29:52,329 the size that makes 1533 00:29:52,329 --> 00:29:53,506 this area absolutely 1534 00:29:53,506 --> 00:29:56,357 unsuitable for them. 1535 00:29:56,357 --> 00:29:57,663 Uh, you know, a lot of 1536 00:29:57,663 --> 00:29:58,298 they have 1537 00:29:58,298 --> 00:29:59,569 minimum size 1538 00:29:59,569 --> 00:30:00,945 at least 3 acres or 1539 00:30:00,945 --> 00:30:03,012 more, right? AND 1540 00:30:03,012 --> 00:30:04,418 if you have a plot of land 1541 00:30:04,418 --> 00:30:05,633 with an area of ​​1.3 acres, it 1542 00:30:05,633 --> 00:30:07,038 excludes an entire lane 1543 00:30:07,038 --> 00:30:07,835 general 1544 00:30:07,835 --> 00:30:08,785 industrial 1545 00:30:08,785 --> 00:30:10,038 use, for 1546 00:30:10,038 --> 00:30:11,367 whose property is this 1547 00:30:11,367 --> 00:30:14,697 supposedly intended. THERE ARE- 1548 00:30:14,697 --> 00:30:16,104 uh, and this, I think, too 1549 00:30:16,104 --> 00:30:17,187 related to this 1550 00:30:17,187 --> 00:30:18,197 the idea that, uh, in 1551 00:30:18,197 --> 00:30:19,641 point one, staff 1552 00:30:19,641 --> 00:30:21,048 planning believed that 1553 00:30:21,048 --> 00:30:22,095 , uh, based on 1554 00:30:22,095 --> 00:30:23,358 character and area 1555 00:30:23,358 --> 00:30:24,441 current policy 1556 00:30:24,441 --> 00:30:25,776 master plan, 1557 00:30:25,776 --> 00:30:27,111 the plot does not adjoin 1558 00:30:27,111 --> 00:30:28,049 to the solution with 1559 00:30:28,049 --> 00:30:29,379 motorway. She is not 1560 00:30:29,379 --> 00:30:30,406 seems suitable 1561 00:30:30,406 --> 00:30:31,320 for regional 1562 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,734 commercial facilities. I think it's excessive. 1563 00:30:33,734 --> 00:30:34,847 fixation on, uh, 1564 00:30:34,847 --> 00:30:36,108 term such as 1565 00:30:36,108 --> 00:30:37,518 regional trade 1566 00:30:37,518 --> 00:30:38,705 objects that exist only 1567 00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:39,929 one of many 1568 00:30:39,929 --> 00:30:41,116 permitted species 1569 00:30:41,116 --> 00:30:42,563 use in areas 1570 00:30:42,563 --> 00:30:43,899 C-4, would be approximately 1571 00:30:43,899 --> 00:30:45,346 the same as saying: "Oh 1572 00:30:45,346 --> 00:30:46,496 , well, you can't 1573 00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:47,349 to do, uh, 1574 00:30:47,349 --> 00:30:48,388 gigantic, uh 1575 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:49,723 hydration system 1576 00:30:49,723 --> 00:30:50,963 "There's water here, right?" Or 1577 00:30:50,963 --> 00:30:52,085 any big thing, 1578 00:30:52,085 --> 00:30:52,783 you can't 1579 00:30:52,783 --> 00:30:53,753 build a factory 1580 00:30:53,753 --> 00:30:54,966 of any type, you do not 1581 00:30:54,966 --> 00:30:56,179 you can do it on 1582 00:30:56,179 --> 00:30:57,029 area of ​​such 1583 00:30:57,029 --> 00:31:05,772 size. So, me too 1584 00:31:05,772 --> 00:31:07,031 I would like to pay 1585 00:31:07,031 --> 00:31:14,061 attention to the idea that, uh, 1586 00:31:14,061 --> 00:31:15,244 zoning change may 1587 00:31:15,244 --> 00:31:16,458 create unacceptable 1588 00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:17,521 high volume of traffic 1589 00:31:17,521 --> 00:31:18,279 passenger 1590 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:23,059 cars. And we don't 1591 00:31:23,059 --> 00:31:24,423 completely understood why 1592 00:31:24,423 --> 00:31:25,480 this was the final 1593 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,708 thought after paragraph, 1594 00:31:26,708 --> 00:31:27,731 which explains how 1595 00:31:27,731 --> 00:31:29,095 the master plan has, 1596 00:31:29,095 --> 00:31:30,016 uh, the section about 1597 00:31:30,016 --> 00:31:30,937 renewable 1598 00:31:30,937 --> 00:31:34,984 natural gas. And there 1599 00:31:34,984 --> 00:31:35,759 it is noted that 1600 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:36,385 arrangement 1601 00:31:36,385 --> 00:31:37,236 Sok landfills 1602 00:31:37,236 --> 00:31:37,911 Trail Hills on 1603 00:31:37,911 --> 00:31:38,812 southern border 1604 00:31:38,812 --> 00:31:39,763 The canton is represented by 1605 00:31:39,763 --> 00:31:40,589 another unique one 1606 00:31:40,589 --> 00:31:41,289 opportunity for 1607 00:31:41,289 --> 00:31:41,865 production 1608 00:31:41,865 --> 00:31:42,540 renewable 1609 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:43,571 energy. Considering, 1610 00:31:43,571 --> 00:31:44,379 what a dump 1611 00:31:44,379 --> 00:31:45,288 planned to close 1612 00:31:45,288 --> 00:31:46,197 during the next 1613 00:31:46,197 --> 00:31:46,980 10-15 years old, village 1614 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:47,864 could consider 1615 00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:48,874 possibility of cooperation 1616 00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:50,565 with the operator, what, I think it concerns 1617 00:31:50,565 --> 00:31:51,045 operator 1618 00:31:51,045 --> 00:31:51,929 landfills, for 1619 00:31:51,929 --> 00:31:52,686 methane collection, which 1620 00:31:52,686 --> 00:31:53,343 formed in 1621 00:31:53,343 --> 00:31:53,873 result 1622 00:31:53,873 --> 00:31:54,807 decomposition during 1623 00:31:54,807 --> 00:31:55,792 settling period 1624 00:31:55,792 --> 00:31:56,835 . After the methane 1625 00:31:56,835 --> 00:31:57,776 will be captured, his 1626 00:31:57,776 --> 00:31:58,272 it will be possible 1627 00:31:58,272 --> 00:31:58,966 to turn into 1628 00:31:58,966 --> 00:31:59,635 renewable 1629 00:31:59,635 --> 00:32:00,868 natural gas. Good, 1630 00:32:00,868 --> 00:32:02,294 that's good, but then 1631 00:32:02,294 --> 00:32:03,913 written by Canton Renewables. I 1632 00:32:03,913 --> 00:32:04,896 not sure which one 1633 00:32:04,896 --> 00:32:05,817 they are related 1634 00:32:05,817 --> 00:32:06,892 have to cooperate 1635 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:07,506 town with 1636 00:32:07,506 --> 00:32:08,151 operator 1637 00:32:08,151 --> 00:32:09,226 landfills, but 1638 00:32:09,226 --> 00:32:10,424 Canton Renewables investments 1639 00:32:10,424 --> 00:32:11,407 in its current and 1640 00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:12,605 future activities, 1641 00:32:12,605 --> 00:32:13,803 of course, there are earlier ones, 1642 00:32:13,803 --> 00:32:14,909 where it is stated that 1643 00:32:14,909 --> 00:32:16,721 they had to invest in some 1644 00:32:16,721 --> 00:32:17,704 soundproofing and 1645 00:32:17,704 --> 00:32:18,809 additional external 1646 00:32:18,809 --> 00:32:20,007 equipment; uh, but there is 1647 00:32:20,007 --> 00:32:20,929 part of their 1648 00:32:20,929 --> 00:32:22,096 approved plan 1649 00:32:22,096 --> 00:32:23,311 plots in 2022. But 1650 00:32:23,311 --> 00:32:24,382 this is characterized by 1651 00:32:24,382 --> 00:32:25,341 as an investment that 1652 00:32:25,341 --> 00:32:26,045 continues in his 1653 00:32:26,045 --> 00:32:27,173 future activities 1654 00:32:27,173 --> 00:32:28,075 and points to it 1655 00:32:28,075 --> 00:32:28,836 long-term 1656 00:32:28,836 --> 00:32:30,164 presence. And with 1657 00:32:30,164 --> 00:32:31,154 we must do this 1658 00:32:31,154 --> 00:32:32,367 to conclude that 1659 00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:33,165 approval 1660 00:32:33,165 --> 00:32:33,963 commercial 1661 00:32:33,963 --> 00:32:35,017 zoning of the district, 1662 00:32:35,017 --> 00:32:36,230 which will attract 1663 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:37,060 large volume 1664 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:37,922 passenger 1665 00:32:37,922 --> 00:32:38,625 transport, 1666 00:32:38,625 --> 00:32:39,870 incompatible with the neighboring one 1667 00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:40,955 landfill and 1668 00:32:40,955 --> 00:32:41,721 installation with 1669 00:32:41,721 --> 00:32:42,967 gas recovery; and I 1670 00:32:42,967 --> 00:32:44,180 just not sure, 1671 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:45,361 What is the relationship between one 1672 00:32:45,361 --> 00:32:46,542 has to another, honestly 1673 00:32:46,542 --> 00:32:47,819 speaking, especially when 1674 00:32:47,819 --> 00:32:53,771 You look at the airplane. 1675 00:32:53,771 --> 00:32:54,743 I don't think there is. 1676 00:32:54,743 --> 00:32:55,784 some entry or 1677 00:32:55,784 --> 00:32:57,138 exit from Michigan Avenue 1678 00:32:57,138 --> 00:32:58,457 which will be affected, and 1679 00:32:58,457 --> 00:32:59,464 there is already a section C3, 1680 00:32:59,464 --> 00:33:00,818 zoned slightly lower 1681 00:33:00,818 --> 00:33:01,964 behind the store near 1682 00:33:01,964 --> 00:33:02,728 swimming pool, and in 1683 00:33:02,728 --> 00:33:03,631 resolution on 1684 00:33:03,631 --> 00:33:04,637 zoning for C3 1685 00:33:04,637 --> 00:33:05,991 specifically stated 1686 00:33:05,991 --> 00:33:06,859 that such types 1687 00:33:06,859 --> 00:33:07,762 using, 1688 00:33:07,762 --> 00:33:08,387 probably, 1689 00:33:08,387 --> 00:33:09,394 will generate 1690 00:33:09,394 --> 00:33:10,296 large volume 1691 00:33:10,296 --> 00:33:15,878 transport. Therefore, 1692 00:33:15,878 --> 00:33:17,240 you know, if there is already 1693 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,727 area of ​​zone C3 only 1694 00:33:18,727 --> 00:33:23,255 500 feet on the right. 1695 00:33:23,255 --> 00:33:24,147 I'm not sure. 1696 00:33:24,147 --> 00:33:24,720 Where is this from? 1697 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,804 concern about 1698 00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:26,887 increase in volume 1699 00:33:26,887 --> 00:33:27,747 passenger 1700 00:33:27,747 --> 00:33:29,022 transport, which somehow 1701 00:33:29,022 --> 00:33:30,169 related to the collection 1702 00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:33,453 methane. You are asking 1703 00:33:33,453 --> 00:33:34,843 about zoning C4. 1704 00:33:34,843 --> 00:33:35,541 Right. 1705 00:33:35,541 --> 00:33:36,974 But you are talking about 1706 00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:38,598 that C3 is the same, 1707 00:33:38,598 --> 00:33:40,505 because there is a C3 for about 500 1708 00:33:40,505 --> 00:33:42,021 feet-600 feet at 1709 00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:44,023 west of the Ypsi site. 1710 00:33:44,023 --> 00:33:44,487 It 1711 00:33:44,487 --> 00:33:45,428 other zonal 1712 00:33:45,428 --> 00:33:45,874 area. 1713 00:33:45,874 --> 00:33:46,577 Yes, but they 1714 00:33:46,577 --> 00:33:47,398 located on 1715 00:33:47,398 --> 00:33:48,336 distance 500 feet 1716 00:33:48,336 --> 00:33:49,629 from each other. Therefore, 1717 00:33:49,629 --> 00:33:50,589 the nature of this 1718 00:33:50,589 --> 00:33:56,086 the corridor is such that we don't think that it's here yet. 1719 00:33:56,086 --> 00:33:56,918 there is a lot of movement 1720 00:33:56,918 --> 00:34:00,567 transportation, right? 1721 00:34:00,567 --> 00:34:01,915 C3, which is behind 1722 00:34:01,915 --> 00:34:03,117 500 feet on a long 1723 00:34:03,117 --> 00:34:04,137 highways, -this 1724 00:34:04,137 --> 00:34:05,558 enterprises which, as 1725 00:34:05,558 --> 00:34:06,760 known to generate 1726 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,707 large volume 1727 00:34:07,707 --> 00:34:09,534 transport. IN 1728 00:34:09,534 --> 00:34:10,352 decree this 1729 00:34:10,352 --> 00:34:13,883 specifically stated. 1730 00:34:13,883 --> 00:34:15,283 So I'm not sure that 1731 00:34:15,283 --> 00:34:16,649 there are C4 companies that 1732 00:34:16,649 --> 00:34:17,839 can generate 1733 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:19,169 significant additional 1734 00:34:19,169 --> 00:34:20,570 volume of transport, or 1735 00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:21,655 how will it interfere 1736 00:34:21,655 --> 00:34:28,921 Canton Renewables. 1737 00:34:28,921 --> 00:34:37,132 So, let's summarize. I understand that this 1738 00:34:37,132 --> 00:34:37,929 the plot was 1739 00:34:37,929 --> 00:34:39,058 replanned for 1740 00:34:39,058 --> 00:34:39,788 process time 1741 00:34:39,788 --> 00:34:40,419 renewal 1742 00:34:40,419 --> 00:34:41,615 master plan 1743 00:34:41,615 --> 00:34:42,943 2025, and before that it 1744 00:34:42,943 --> 00:34:43,774 was the object 1745 00:34:43,774 --> 00:34:44,405 mixed 1746 00:34:44,405 --> 00:34:45,633 use, and I don't 1747 00:34:45,633 --> 00:34:46,962 absolutely sure which 1748 00:34:46,962 --> 00:34:48,058 the foundations lay in 1749 00:34:48,058 --> 00:34:49,353 basis of this decision 1750 00:34:49,353 --> 00:34:51,479 about redevelopment. I 1751 00:34:51,479 --> 00:34:52,395 viewed all 1752 00:34:52,395 --> 00:34:53,606 public documents, 1753 00:34:53,606 --> 00:34:54,719 which I was able to find for 1754 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,373 that time, that 1755 00:34:55,373 --> 00:34:56,061 relate to 1756 00:34:56,061 --> 00:34:57,108 discussions of this 1757 00:34:57,108 --> 00:34:57,599 process 1758 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:58,843 redevelopment, and not 1759 00:34:58,843 --> 00:34:59,955 found nothing that 1760 00:34:59,955 --> 00:35:00,577 specifically 1761 00:35:00,577 --> 00:35:01,428 would provide 1762 00:35:01,428 --> 00:35:02,672 redevelopment of this 1763 00:35:02,672 --> 00:35:03,850 areas or any 1764 00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:04,897 discussions, which, 1765 00:35:04,897 --> 00:35:06,108 you know, you would do it 1766 00:35:06,108 --> 00:35:07,385 logical result 1767 00:35:07,385 --> 00:35:10,073 . So, you know, if 1768 00:35:10,073 --> 00:35:11,453 they were, we would like 1769 00:35:11,453 --> 00:35:12,418 hear the main 1770 00:35:12,418 --> 00:35:15,183 the reasons for this. Hmm, but 1771 00:35:15,183 --> 00:35:16,312 it doesn't matter to us 1772 00:35:16,312 --> 00:35:17,367 meaning, and when we 1773 00:35:17,367 --> 00:35:20,498 considering 1774 00:35:20,498 --> 00:35:21,379 resolution and 1775 00:35:21,379 --> 00:35:22,665 master plan in 1776 00:35:22,665 --> 00:35:24,024 Overall, I think there is 1777 00:35:24,024 --> 00:35:24,795 reliable 1778 00:35:24,795 --> 00:35:26,155 interpretation of what, 1779 00:35:26,155 --> 00:35:27,257 maybe it was 1780 00:35:27,257 --> 00:35:28,101 wrong 1781 00:35:28,101 --> 00:35:29,461 rescheduled when 1782 00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:30,930 it was recycled in 2025 1783 00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:32,446 year. But I didn't take it. 1784 00:35:32,446 --> 00:35:33,196 participation in these 1785 00:35:33,196 --> 00:35:34,436 discussions, and I 1786 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:35,675 it was not easy to find 1787 00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:36,914 explanation as to 1788 00:35:36,914 --> 00:35:37,925 what were the main ones 1789 00:35:37,925 --> 00:35:39,587 reasons. But we already 1790 00:35:39,587 --> 00:35:40,441 presented our 1791 00:35:40,441 --> 00:35:41,509 considerations regarding 1792 00:35:41,509 --> 00:35:42,470 why, in our opinion, 1793 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:43,431 approval of this 1794 00:35:43,431 --> 00:35:44,446 redevelopment can 1795 00:35:44,446 --> 00:35:45,060 answer 1796 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,021 master plan 1797 00:35:46,021 --> 00:35:47,490 and the resolution, and we will be happy 1798 00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:48,424 to answer any 1799 00:35:48,424 --> 00:35:49,472 What are your questions? 1800 00:35:49,472 --> 00:35:51,705 Good. Thank you. 1801 00:35:51,705 --> 00:35:52,815 Of course. 1802 00:35:52,815 --> 00:35:54,367 I mean that 1803 00:35:54,367 --> 00:35:55,494 we must open 1804 00:35:55,494 --> 00:35:56,561 public hearings, 1805 00:35:56,561 --> 00:35:57,143 but 1806 00:35:57,143 --> 00:35:58,034 Yes. We must 1807 00:35:58,034 --> 00:35:58,894 open public 1808 00:35:58,894 --> 00:35:59,880 hearing, so everyone, 1809 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,436 who wants... 1810 00:36:00,436 --> 00:36:01,063 I am sure that I 1811 00:36:01,063 --> 00:36:01,711 open, I entered 1812 00:36:01,711 --> 00:36:02,480 offer to open 1813 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,269 public hearings. 1814 00:36:03,269 --> 00:36:03,969 Second. 1815 00:36:03,969 --> 00:36:04,896 Good. We have 1816 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:05,971 offer to open 1817 00:36:05,971 --> 00:36:06,933 public hearings 1818 00:36:06,933 --> 00:36:08,008 from Commissioner Weber, 1819 00:36:08,008 --> 00:36:08,744 which supports 1820 00:36:08,744 --> 00:36:09,899 Commissioner Lee. Any 1821 00:36:09,899 --> 00:36:11,091 further discussion 1822 00:36:11,091 --> 00:36:12,511 ? All in favor, please. 1823 00:36:12,511 --> 00:36:13,392 Speak up. 1824 00:36:13,392 --> 00:36:14,000 I. 1825 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,690 Me: Is anyone "against"? 1826 00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:16,793 Good. Someone from 1827 00:36:16,793 --> 00:36:17,917 the public wants 1828 00:36:17,917 --> 00:36:19,071 to speak out of this 1829 00:36:19,071 --> 00:36:20,327 reason? Sir 1830 00:36:20,327 --> 00:36:21,179 McCauslin. 1831 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:29,740 Of course. Yes, good. 1832 00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:31,105 evening. Damon again 1833 00:36:31,105 --> 00:36:32,484 Carson, Haggerty Road 1834 00:36:32,484 --> 00:36:33,793 , 328. Well, oddly enough, 2 1835 00:36:33,793 --> 00:36:35,101 years ago I stood behind 1836 00:36:35,101 --> 00:36:36,127 this rostrum and 1837 00:36:36,127 --> 00:36:37,294 encountered such 1838 00:36:37,294 --> 00:36:39,209 the confrontation itself. 1839 00:36:39,209 --> 00:36:40,681 Except that 1840 00:36:40,681 --> 00:36:42,273 my situation, I think, 1841 00:36:42,273 --> 00:36:44,272 was different. Um, over 1842 00:36:44,272 --> 00:36:45,863 I was 40 years old. 1843 00:36:45,863 --> 00:36:48,357 basic zoning C-4. AND 1844 00:36:48,357 --> 00:36:49,489 this was prevented 1845 00:36:49,489 --> 00:36:50,275 corporate 1846 00:36:50,275 --> 00:36:53,025 imposition. We 1847 00:36:53,025 --> 00:36:53,998 proposed 1848 00:36:53,998 --> 00:36:54,610 remove 1849 00:36:54,610 --> 00:36:55,511 corporate 1850 00:36:55,511 --> 00:36:56,448 overlay and 1851 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:57,566 use 1852 00:36:57,566 --> 00:37:05,674 zoning C-4. So, I don't look at the process. 1853 00:37:05,674 --> 00:37:07,053 I don't care about the project. 1854 00:37:07,053 --> 00:37:10,456 . I'm looking at the process. 1855 00:37:10,456 --> 00:37:11,565 at this time 1856 00:37:11,565 --> 00:37:13,057 the point is that 1857 00:37:13,057 --> 00:37:14,243 , do we create 1858 00:37:14,243 --> 00:37:15,658 more C-4 zoning, 1859 00:37:15,658 --> 00:37:16,882 do we strive not to 1860 00:37:16,882 --> 00:37:18,183 create more 1861 00:37:18,183 --> 00:37:20,923 C-4 zoning? Because 1862 00:37:20,923 --> 00:37:22,517 2 years later I still 1863 00:37:22,517 --> 00:37:23,680 I don't have any. 1864 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,728 zoning. IN 1865 00:37:24,728 --> 00:37:26,369 You have nothing. You have 1866 00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:27,490 Is there anything wrong? IN 1867 00:37:27,490 --> 00:37:28,349 I'm still not here... 1868 00:37:28,349 --> 00:37:28,854 I am not here. 1869 00:37:28,854 --> 00:37:29,460 relief in 1870 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:30,269 zoning through 2 1871 00:37:30,269 --> 00:37:31,313 years. I mean, 1872 00:37:31,313 --> 00:37:32,322 that we had to leave 1873 00:37:32,322 --> 00:37:33,059 another way. 1874 00:37:33,059 --> 00:37:33,826 Yes. Yes. 1875 00:37:33,826 --> 00:37:35,369 Which we did. Exactly 1876 00:37:35,369 --> 00:37:35,754 Yes. 1877 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:36,515 Right. 1878 00:37:36,515 --> 00:37:37,808 So we had to leave. 1879 00:37:37,808 --> 00:37:38,886 another way. AND, 1880 00:37:38,886 --> 00:37:40,490 I hope this is the way. 1881 00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:46,212 will work. But I think 1882 00:37:46,212 --> 00:37:47,504 what if you are going 1883 00:37:47,504 --> 00:37:49,217 to look for apples for 1884 00:37:49,217 --> 00:37:50,315 oranges, then these 1885 00:37:50,315 --> 00:37:51,511 two plots if you 1886 00:37:51,511 --> 00:37:52,609 look at them, 1887 00:37:52,609 --> 00:37:53,772 they are not identical with 1888 00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:55,032 zoning point of view 1889 00:37:55,032 --> 00:37:55,679 districts and 1890 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:56,422 future 1891 00:37:56,422 --> 00:38:00,947 land use. 1892 00:38:00,947 --> 00:38:01,876 Well, it can 1893 00:38:01,876 --> 00:38:03,984 change, I don't know. 1894 00:38:03,984 --> 00:38:05,271 But if that changes 1895 00:38:05,271 --> 00:38:06,333 for one, it has 1896 00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:07,620 to return to mine 1897 00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:08,633 also. This is mine. 1898 00:38:08,633 --> 00:38:10,140 argument. Thank you. 1899 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:12,122 Okay, thank you. Someone else 1900 00:38:12,122 --> 00:38:13,230 ? I'll take a look. 1901 00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:13,833 Madam Chair, whether 1902 00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:14,277 Can I bring it? 1903 00:38:14,277 --> 00:38:14,775 proposal about 1904 00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:15,414 closing of public 1905 00:38:15,414 --> 00:38:15,781 hearings? 1906 00:38:15,781 --> 00:38:17,116 Good. Secondly, madam 1907 00:38:17,116 --> 00:38:17,813 presiding 1908 00:38:17,813 --> 00:38:18,338 Okay, we have 1909 00:38:18,338 --> 00:38:19,136 Commissioner's proposal 1910 00:38:19,136 --> 00:38:19,598 Watkins on 1911 00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:20,145 support or 1912 00:38:20,145 --> 00:38:20,943 Commissioner's proposal 1913 00:38:20,943 --> 00:38:21,721 Weber in support 1914 00:38:21,721 --> 00:38:22,435 Commissioner Watkins 1915 00:38:22,435 --> 00:38:22,939 about the closure 1916 00:38:22,939 --> 00:38:23,910 public hearings. Or 1917 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:24,534 there is further 1918 00:38:24,534 --> 00:38:25,883 discussion? All who 1919 00:38:25,883 --> 00:38:27,115 "for", say "I". 1920 00:38:27,115 --> 00:38:28,217 I. 1921 00:38:28,217 --> 00:38:30,369 Good. Now we 1922 00:38:30,369 --> 00:38:33,055 discussing. So, what 1923 00:38:33,055 --> 00:38:35,977 it? No, you, you...Yes, 1924 00:38:35,977 --> 00:38:36,424 I... 1925 00:38:36,424 --> 00:38:37,641 You raised your hand. 1926 00:38:37,641 --> 00:38:39,345 Okay, thank you. Uh, mine 1927 00:38:39,345 --> 00:38:40,594 the question is 1928 00:38:40,594 --> 00:38:41,843 because I'm trying 1929 00:38:41,843 --> 00:38:42,687 understand that 1930 00:38:42,687 --> 00:38:44,939 is happening. I saw 1931 00:38:44,939 --> 00:38:46,377 gasoline, I saw coffee, 1932 00:38:46,377 --> 00:38:47,815 uh, your mark is, uh, there 1933 00:38:47,815 --> 00:38:49,291 it was simply written 1934 00:38:49,291 --> 00:38:50,767 gasoline, so I don't know 1935 00:38:50,767 --> 00:38:51,940 , is it specific 1936 00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:53,188 brand, but you drank 1937 00:38:53,188 --> 00:38:55,858 coffee, what else did you drink? 1938 00:38:55,858 --> 00:38:57,396 Coffee and 1939 00:38:57,396 --> 00:39:00,019 palm trees. You need 1940 00:39:00,019 --> 00:39:01,272 come to the microphone 1941 00:39:01,272 --> 00:39:02,557 and introduce yourself, please 1942 00:39:02,557 --> 00:39:05,169 affection. Name yours 1943 00:39:05,169 --> 00:39:06,192 name and address. 1944 00:39:06,192 --> 00:39:07,584 Ali Ali Wahab. Uh, me 1945 00:39:07,584 --> 00:39:08,766 I don't live in Canton, but 1946 00:39:08,766 --> 00:39:09,534 we have coffee 1947 00:39:09,534 --> 00:39:10,686 concept called 1948 00:39:10,686 --> 00:39:11,724 Motto Marble. You can 1949 00:39:11,724 --> 00:39:12,923 find it on the Internet 1950 00:39:12,923 --> 00:39:13,931 . We offer 1951 00:39:13,931 --> 00:39:15,448 brunch options. Um, in 1952 00:39:15,448 --> 00:39:16,651 we are also full 1953 00:39:16,651 --> 00:39:17,516 coffee menu, 1954 00:39:17,516 --> 00:39:19,052 coffee concept. Uh, 1955 00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:20,115 you know, just new 1956 00:39:20,115 --> 00:39:20,676 coffee shop in 1957 00:39:20,676 --> 00:39:21,828 American style 1958 00:39:21,828 --> 00:39:22,625 , and we have a very 1959 00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:24,810 unique menu that I beg you, guys, 1960 00:39:24,810 --> 00:39:26,611 to consider, and which one we also want 1961 00:39:26,611 --> 00:39:27,627 bring to the site. 1962 00:39:27,627 --> 00:39:28,428 Therefore. 1963 00:39:28,428 --> 00:39:29,644 My question: do you have 1964 00:39:29,644 --> 00:39:32,177 gasoline, and coffee, that's what do I mean, or 1965 00:39:32,177 --> 00:39:32,683 wrong? 1966 00:39:32,683 --> 00:39:33,595 Yes, it will be...We 1967 00:39:33,595 --> 00:39:34,854 we offer a coffee shop with 1968 00:39:34,854 --> 00:39:36,846 gas station, yes. Therefore, 1969 00:39:36,846 --> 00:39:37,790 there will be store C, and 1970 00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:38,504 then half 1971 00:39:38,504 --> 00:39:39,524 the building will look like 1972 00:39:39,524 --> 00:39:40,009 coffee shop with 1973 00:39:40,009 --> 00:39:42,059 gas station. This is what we 1974 00:39:42,059 --> 00:39:42,284 ... 1975 00:39:42,284 --> 00:39:43,506 So I'm also trying 1976 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:44,240 get traffic 1977 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,425 transport. So you have 1978 00:39:45,425 --> 00:39:46,206 there will be people who 1979 00:39:46,206 --> 00:39:47,040 will come to 1980 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,636 breakfast... 1981 00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:48,778 Uh, this will be the place for 1982 00:39:48,778 --> 00:39:49,436 seat? It 1983 00:39:49,436 --> 00:39:50,363 there will mostly be food 1984 00:39:50,363 --> 00:39:50,814 takeaway and 1985 00:39:50,814 --> 00:39:51,768 gas station. So this is 1986 00:39:51,768 --> 00:39:52,692 ...We don't mean 1987 00:39:52,692 --> 00:39:53,521 ...You mean 1988 00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:54,403 come in and sit... 1989 00:39:54,403 --> 00:39:55,331 I'm just trying. 1990 00:39:55,331 --> 00:39:56,418 understand the function. I 1991 00:39:56,418 --> 00:39:57,535 I'm trying to understand. 1992 00:39:57,535 --> 00:39:58,394 what is it like, how is it 1993 00:39:58,394 --> 00:39:59,736 works. You get 1994 00:39:59,736 --> 00:40:00,308 gasoline, 1995 00:40:00,308 --> 00:40:01,440 and then, like, 1996 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,989 and get breakfast. 1997 00:40:02,989 --> 00:40:04,037 Yeah, like, uh, they 1998 00:40:04,037 --> 00:40:05,210 can take something on 1999 00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:06,351 like a sandwich or 2000 00:40:06,351 --> 00:40:07,585 tartine with a cup of coffee 2001 00:40:07,585 --> 00:40:08,642 and move on. 2002 00:40:08,642 --> 00:40:09,958 Good. Thank you. 2003 00:40:09,958 --> 00:40:12,369 No problem. 2004 00:40:12,369 --> 00:40:13,689 Hey, I felt that you 2005 00:40:13,689 --> 00:40:14,999 You're getting a little stuck. IN 2006 00:40:14,999 --> 00:40:15,762 you were... 2007 00:40:15,762 --> 00:40:17,793 No, I'll wait. Good. 2008 00:40:17,793 --> 00:40:22,071 Commissioner Singh 2009 00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:23,807 . IN 2010 00:40:23,807 --> 00:40:24,917 I don't have any. 2011 00:40:24,917 --> 00:40:26,196 questions, but overall 2012 00:40:26,196 --> 00:40:28,747 statement that 2013 00:40:28,747 --> 00:40:30,355 zoning C-4 for this 2014 00:40:30,355 --> 00:40:31,722 territory requires 2015 00:40:31,722 --> 00:40:32,687 compliance 10 2016 00:40:32,687 --> 00:40:35,896 standards. And, um, to 2017 00:40:35,896 --> 00:40:37,258 you guys got it 2018 00:40:37,258 --> 00:40:38,179 this is approval, 2019 00:40:38,179 --> 00:40:39,358 it is necessary that these 2020 00:40:39,358 --> 00:40:40,389 standards were 2021 00:40:40,389 --> 00:40:45,952 complied with. Everyone. I see that one or two 2022 00:40:45,952 --> 00:40:47,176 you can do, 2023 00:40:47,176 --> 00:40:48,230 but you need 2024 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:49,216 find all the others 2025 00:40:49,216 --> 00:40:50,474 standards, and if you 2026 00:40:50,474 --> 00:40:51,562 can you think of 2027 00:40:51,562 --> 00:40:54,948 reasons, I don't see them. 2028 00:40:54,948 --> 00:40:56,198 Uh, I see what this is. 2029 00:40:56,198 --> 00:41:00,584 small area. Uh, 2030 00:41:00,584 --> 00:41:01,919 there is no big deal there 2031 00:41:01,919 --> 00:41:05,995 industry. Uh, in 2032 00:41:05,995 --> 00:41:06,948 at some point in 2033 00:41:06,948 --> 00:41:07,999 the future may 2034 00:41:07,999 --> 00:41:08,590 to be different 2035 00:41:08,590 --> 00:41:11,442 using. This can 2036 00:41:11,442 --> 00:41:11,930 not to be 2037 00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:13,255 general industrial, 2038 00:41:13,255 --> 00:41:14,440 but C-4 is a far-fetched 2039 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,179 idea at the moment. 2040 00:41:17,179 --> 00:41:18,992 Thank you. 2041 00:41:18,992 --> 00:41:20,161 Commissioner. 2042 00:41:20,161 --> 00:41:21,074 Watkins. 2043 00:41:21,074 --> 00:41:22,480 Of course. So, again 2044 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,653 very quickly, commissioner 2045 00:41:23,653 --> 00:41:24,827 Singh hit it straight in 2046 00:41:24,827 --> 00:41:25,816 point. You know, there is 2047 00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:27,011 many things that you 2048 00:41:27,011 --> 00:41:27,496 must 2049 00:41:27,496 --> 00:41:28,795 follow. We are not 2050 00:41:28,795 --> 00:41:29,833 everyone understood. I 2051 00:41:29,833 --> 00:41:30,659 grateful to you 2052 00:41:30,659 --> 00:41:31,308 to the lawyer for 2053 00:41:31,308 --> 00:41:32,282 definition of the word " 2054 00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:33,562 adjacent". I...it's me 2055 00:41:33,562 --> 00:41:34,675 I like it. Well, this is 2056 00:41:34,675 --> 00:41:35,582 It was a great attempt, 2057 00:41:35,582 --> 00:41:36,540 but I don't think we, 2058 00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:37,498 you know, the commissioners are here 2059 00:41:37,498 --> 00:41:38,102 in order to 2060 00:41:38,102 --> 00:41:38,732 discuss 2061 00:41:38,732 --> 00:41:39,715 the meaning of "adjacent", 2062 00:41:39,715 --> 00:41:40,757 isn't that right? I think that 2063 00:41:40,757 --> 00:41:41,757 this word by itself 2064 00:41:41,757 --> 00:41:42,552 says, and we don't 2065 00:41:42,552 --> 00:41:43,424 we want to try 2066 00:41:43,424 --> 00:41:44,296 to cling to 2067 00:41:44,296 --> 00:41:45,015 this today 2068 00:41:45,015 --> 00:41:46,915 in the evening. Thirdly, I think you yourself 2069 00:41:46,915 --> 00:41:47,931 answered their own 2070 00:41:47,931 --> 00:41:49,069 question as if I am not 2071 00:41:49,069 --> 00:41:50,116 sure why we 2072 00:41:50,116 --> 00:41:51,347 here is not for the conditional, but 2073 00:41:51,347 --> 00:41:52,547 not for what you are talking about 2074 00:41:52,547 --> 00:41:54,943 ask today. And I will quickly postpone 2075 00:41:54,943 --> 00:41:56,363 conversation, Patrick and, uh 2076 00:41:56,363 --> 00:41:58,784 - er, to Agrus' adviser. I am preparing a conversation for you, 2077 00:41:58,784 --> 00:41:59,811 so as not to catch you 2078 00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:01,230 suddenly. Usually I 2079 00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:02,850 I'm doing it. What would it be? 2080 00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:04,013 correct context 2081 00:42:04,013 --> 00:42:04,932 now if they 2082 00:42:04,932 --> 00:42:05,330 wanted 2083 00:42:05,330 --> 00:42:06,279 use 2084 00:42:06,279 --> 00:42:07,472 conditional option, not 2085 00:42:07,472 --> 00:42:08,299 what they are talking about 2086 00:42:08,299 --> 00:42:09,278 are asking today 2087 00:42:09,278 --> 00:42:10,307 in the evening? That is, whether 2088 00:42:10,307 --> 00:42:11,052 can they do it 2089 00:42:11,052 --> 00:42:11,991 to transform, or to eat 2090 00:42:11,991 --> 00:42:12,570 will have to 2091 00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:13,233 return, 2092 00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:14,061 resubmit 2093 00:42:14,061 --> 00:42:15,082 application and return 2094 00:42:15,082 --> 00:42:17,079 her to the commission? And I ask this because 2095 00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:17,726 if you have 2096 00:42:17,726 --> 00:42:18,815 the answer to which you 2097 00:42:18,815 --> 00:42:19,874 responded within 2098 00:42:19,874 --> 00:42:20,963 the first 30 seconds here, 2099 00:42:20,963 --> 00:42:22,081 this is probably what you need 2100 00:42:22,081 --> 00:42:22,993 should have started 2101 00:42:22,993 --> 00:42:25,982 to do from the very beginning, not this. So I pass on the word. 2102 00:42:25,982 --> 00:42:26,934 employees 2103 00:42:26,934 --> 00:42:28,185 commissions. 2104 00:42:28,185 --> 00:42:29,560 Um, I can start with 2105 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,149 application point of view. 2106 00:42:32,149 --> 00:42:33,423 So, for the conditional 2107 00:42:33,423 --> 00:42:34,735 rezoning, er, 2108 00:42:34,735 --> 00:42:36,122 Zoning Law 2109 00:42:36,122 --> 00:42:37,097 Michigan 2110 00:42:37,097 --> 00:42:38,222 allows conditional 2111 00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:39,646 rezoning, when, 2112 00:42:39,646 --> 00:42:40,771 um, the applicant can 2113 00:42:40,771 --> 00:42:42,083 to offer, uh, 2114 00:42:42,083 --> 00:42:43,208 conditions, uh, because 2115 00:42:43,208 --> 00:42:44,557 application and, um, through 2116 00:42:44,557 --> 00:42:45,719 conditional agreement 2117 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,667 rezoning. As 2118 00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:50,047 village, we can't, 2119 00:42:50,047 --> 00:42:50,882 um, demand 2120 00:42:50,882 --> 00:42:52,225 specific conditions or 2121 00:42:52,225 --> 00:42:54,592 specific conditions. 2122 00:42:54,592 --> 00:42:55,566 The applicant can them 2123 00:42:55,566 --> 00:42:56,607 to offer, and 2124 00:42:56,607 --> 00:42:57,581 then we can 2125 00:42:57,581 --> 00:42:58,790 decide, um, whether, um, 2126 00:42:58,790 --> 00:43:00,134 you know, the village council 2127 00:43:00,134 --> 00:43:01,444 planning commissions 2128 00:43:01,444 --> 00:43:02,553 can decide, um, 2129 00:43:02,553 --> 00:43:03,762 Do you know whether to accept? 2130 00:43:03,762 --> 00:43:04,468 them as conditions 2131 00:43:04,468 --> 00:43:05,682 rezoning. Uh, 2132 00:43:05,682 --> 00:43:06,867 conditional rezoning 2133 00:43:06,867 --> 00:43:07,756 usually takes 2134 00:43:07,756 --> 00:43:08,941 a little more time, um, 2135 00:43:08,941 --> 00:43:09,860 because it is needed 2136 00:43:09,860 --> 00:43:10,778 conditional agreement 2137 00:43:10,778 --> 00:43:11,991 rezoning. Uh, this is 2138 00:43:11,991 --> 00:43:12,953 should be considered 2139 00:43:12,953 --> 00:43:13,759 employees 2140 00:43:13,759 --> 00:43:14,774 village council, this has 2141 00:43:14,774 --> 00:43:15,554 to be considered 2142 00:43:15,554 --> 00:43:16,662 legal advisor. Therefore, 2143 00:43:16,662 --> 00:43:17,499 from the moment of submission 2144 00:43:17,499 --> 00:43:18,286 applications for conditional 2145 00:43:18,286 --> 00:43:19,021 redevelopment 2146 00:43:19,021 --> 00:43:20,036 can usually pass, 2147 00:43:20,036 --> 00:43:20,924 uh, at least two- 2148 00:43:20,924 --> 00:43:21,812 three months until her 2149 00:43:21,812 --> 00:43:22,548 there will be no question 2150 00:43:22,548 --> 00:43:23,436 put into order 2151 00:43:23,436 --> 00:43:24,273 daily commission from 2152 00:43:24,273 --> 00:43:24,983 planning for 2153 00:43:24,983 --> 00:43:26,115 public hearings. It 2154 00:43:26,115 --> 00:43:27,368 takes a little longer 2155 00:43:27,368 --> 00:43:30,051 time. Uh, and that could be a little longer than, 2156 00:43:30,051 --> 00:43:31,295 uh, the applicant indicated, 2157 00:43:31,295 --> 00:43:32,400 what, uh, they can 2158 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,781 there will be time to decide 2159 00:43:33,781 --> 00:43:35,058 purchase question 2160 00:43:35,058 --> 00:43:36,436 real estate. Uh, but 2161 00:43:36,436 --> 00:43:37,402 submission process 2162 00:43:37,402 --> 00:43:38,645 application remains 2163 00:43:38,645 --> 00:43:39,401 available. 2164 00:43:39,401 --> 00:43:40,303 Of course. 2165 00:43:40,303 --> 00:43:41,350 These are separate, uh, 2166 00:43:41,350 --> 00:43:42,820 public hearings. 2167 00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:43,536 Part of these 2168 00:43:43,536 --> 00:43:44,669 there are public hearings, 2169 00:43:44,669 --> 00:43:45,743 uh, definition, uh, 2170 00:43:45,743 --> 00:43:46,847 certain conditions, and, uh, with 2171 00:43:46,847 --> 00:43:47,832 conditional agreement 2172 00:43:47,832 --> 00:43:48,995 replanning when 2173 00:43:48,995 --> 00:43:49,801 public 2174 00:43:49,801 --> 00:43:50,815 asks for it or 2175 00:43:50,815 --> 00:43:51,919 wants to see her, we 2176 00:43:51,919 --> 00:43:52,397 would like 2177 00:43:52,397 --> 00:43:53,560 make sure that this, eh 2178 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,395 -e, maximum 2179 00:43:54,395 --> 00:43:55,529 will be simplified when it 2180 00:43:55,529 --> 00:43:56,633 will be scheduled for 2181 00:43:56,633 --> 00:43:57,748 public hearings. 2182 00:43:57,748 --> 00:43:59,393 Thank you, Madam Chair. 2183 00:43:59,393 --> 00:43:59,791 . 2184 00:43:59,791 --> 00:44:02,233 Thank you. Okay, I will move on to another one. 2185 00:44:02,233 --> 00:44:03,210 end, commissioner 2186 00:44:03,210 --> 00:44:06,175 Mallard. 2187 00:44:06,175 --> 00:44:07,688 Nothing. I mean 2188 00:44:07,688 --> 00:44:08,877 , you know, how I am again 2189 00:44:08,877 --> 00:44:10,032 I looked at this, this 2190 00:44:10,032 --> 00:44:12,070 it was like, hmm, you didn't 2191 00:44:12,070 --> 00:44:13,179 answer 10 2192 00:44:13,179 --> 00:44:15,137 requirements, standards. 2193 00:44:15,137 --> 00:44:16,325 But I mean, 2194 00:44:16,325 --> 00:44:17,584 if I agree with 2195 00:44:17,584 --> 00:44:18,948 another commissioner regarding 2196 00:44:18,948 --> 00:44:20,277 this, you know, if there is 2197 00:44:20,277 --> 00:44:21,536 opportunity to do 2198 00:44:21,536 --> 00:44:22,829 this is like a conditional application, 2199 00:44:22,829 --> 00:44:23,773 then maybe this is it 2200 00:44:23,773 --> 00:44:27,047 the right way. 2201 00:44:27,047 --> 00:44:30,309 Good. Thank you. 2202 00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:31,879 Commissioner, uh, Walter 2203 00:44:31,879 --> 00:44:36,889 , checking my mind. 2204 00:44:36,889 --> 00:44:37,531 Optimal 2205 00:44:37,531 --> 00:44:38,265 optimally with 2206 00:44:38,265 --> 00:44:38,847 adjacent 2207 00:44:38,847 --> 00:44:39,704 using, 2208 00:44:39,704 --> 00:44:40,530 direct 2209 00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:41,111 adjacent 2210 00:44:41,111 --> 00:44:42,121 using, this 2211 00:44:42,121 --> 00:44:42,917 the area is better 2212 00:44:42,917 --> 00:44:44,110 suitable for light 2213 00:44:44,110 --> 00:44:48,688 industry, in my opinion. 2214 00:44:48,688 --> 00:44:50,348 Good. Commissioner 2215 00:44:50,348 --> 00:44:52,399 Webber. 2216 00:44:52,399 --> 00:44:53,775 So, I will join in. 2217 00:44:53,775 --> 00:44:56,432 what he said, uh, 2218 00:44:56,432 --> 00:44:57,797 Commissioner Watkins, but 2219 00:44:57,797 --> 00:44:58,695 I won't be in this. 2220 00:44:58,695 --> 00:45:00,181 resort. I would...I would...I 2221 00:45:00,181 --> 00:45:01,106 would be ready 2222 00:45:01,106 --> 00:45:02,549 to discuss with you 2223 00:45:02,549 --> 00:45:03,955 regarding the meaning of the word " 2224 00:45:03,955 --> 00:45:05,250 "adjacent", but, um, 2225 00:45:05,250 --> 00:45:06,693 we don't need it here 2226 00:45:06,693 --> 00:45:10,908 it's a trick. What 2227 00:45:10,908 --> 00:45:11,575 concerns 2228 00:45:11,575 --> 00:45:14,054 rezoning to C4, I don't consider it that much. 2229 00:45:14,054 --> 00:45:15,262 this building, how much 2230 00:45:15,262 --> 00:45:16,343 this development, which 2231 00:45:16,343 --> 00:45:17,328 doesn't really have 2232 00:45:17,328 --> 00:45:18,377 value at this time 2233 00:45:18,377 --> 00:45:19,457 moment, because I 2234 00:45:19,457 --> 00:45:20,443 I'm looking at that. 2235 00:45:20,443 --> 00:45:24,591 allowed in the C4 area. 2236 00:45:24,591 --> 00:45:26,828 And things allowed in the C4 area, exactly 2237 00:45:26,828 --> 00:45:28,143 incompatible with the fact that for 2238 00:45:28,143 --> 00:45:29,386 what are they intended for and 2239 00:45:29,386 --> 00:45:30,558 are used 2240 00:45:30,558 --> 00:45:31,588 neighboring objects 2241 00:45:31,588 --> 00:45:35,476 real estate. In particular, 2242 00:45:35,476 --> 00:45:36,831 to be honest, 2243 00:45:36,831 --> 00:45:40,166 this is a garbage dump. Emm 2244 00:45:40,166 --> 00:45:41,511 , I have a problem with 2245 00:45:41,511 --> 00:45:42,891 considering a downgrade 2246 00:45:42,891 --> 00:45:43,908 categories of this 2247 00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:44,925 real estate to 2248 00:45:44,925 --> 00:45:45,797 district C4, uh, 2249 00:45:45,797 --> 00:45:47,178 zoning is only from 2250 00:45:47,178 --> 00:45:52,282 for this reason. Emm, 2251 00:45:52,282 --> 00:45:53,390 also, regarding your 2252 00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:54,429 comments on 2253 00:45:54,429 --> 00:45:55,780 notes in the conclusions 2254 00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:56,680 staff about 2255 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,581 high volume 2256 00:45:57,581 --> 00:45:58,862 passenger traffic, uh, 2257 00:45:58,862 --> 00:45:59,936 which does not correspond 2258 00:45:59,936 --> 00:46:00,767 requirements for 2259 00:46:00,767 --> 00:46:01,875 landfills and 2260 00:46:01,875 --> 00:46:05,760 gas utilization. I think that's key. 2261 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,406 the word here- 2262 00:46:06,406 --> 00:46:08,253 passenger flow. Emm, 2263 00:46:08,253 --> 00:46:09,432 you don't want to, that is, 2264 00:46:09,432 --> 00:46:10,610 let's see 2265 00:46:10,610 --> 00:46:11,363 face to face 2266 00:46:11,363 --> 00:46:12,541 landfill, not 2267 00:46:12,541 --> 00:46:13,851 renewable sources 2268 00:46:13,851 --> 00:46:14,669 energy is not 2269 00:46:14,669 --> 00:46:15,356 the most beautiful 2270 00:46:15,356 --> 00:46:16,175 using 2271 00:46:16,175 --> 00:46:18,203 real estate. There are things, 2272 00:46:18,203 --> 00:46:19,597 who accompany those who 2273 00:46:19,597 --> 00:46:20,816 which is not necessarily the case 2274 00:46:20,816 --> 00:46:22,758 pleasant for 2275 00:46:22,758 --> 00:46:23,741 direct 2276 00:46:23,741 --> 00:46:24,534 arrangement 2277 00:46:24,534 --> 00:46:25,581 real estate, etc., 2278 00:46:25,581 --> 00:46:26,691 be it smells, noise 2279 00:46:26,691 --> 00:46:27,716 etc. So, I think, 2280 00:46:27,716 --> 00:46:28,717 it's not so much about 2281 00:46:28,717 --> 00:46:29,829 because of how much traffic 2282 00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:30,941 it generates how much 2283 00:46:30,941 --> 00:46:31,970 in the type of traffic that 2284 00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:33,288 is generated. This is just 2285 00:46:33,288 --> 00:46:36,865 my opinion. Besides 2286 00:46:36,865 --> 00:46:37,908 this, I would like 2287 00:46:37,908 --> 00:46:38,918 to note that you 2288 00:46:38,918 --> 00:46:40,129 remembered that, on your 2289 00:46:40,129 --> 00:46:41,206 opinion, this area 2290 00:46:41,206 --> 00:46:42,418 was rescheduled 2291 00:46:42,418 --> 00:46:43,394 during the process 2292 00:46:43,394 --> 00:46:43,966 developments 2293 00:46:43,966 --> 00:46:45,312 the master plan, and 2294 00:46:45,312 --> 00:46:46,322 I don't think so. 2295 00:46:46,322 --> 00:46:47,601 right or wrong, 2296 00:46:47,601 --> 00:46:49,575 Patrick? Perhaps, 2297 00:46:49,575 --> 00:46:50,132 future 2298 00:46:50,132 --> 00:46:51,280 land use 2299 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,538 was changed. It was 2300 00:46:52,538 --> 00:46:52,990 part 2301 00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:53,972 master plan, 2302 00:46:53,972 --> 00:46:55,035 but in reality it is not 2303 00:46:55,035 --> 00:46:56,091 was rescheduled. 2304 00:46:56,091 --> 00:46:57,366 So I just want this. 2305 00:46:57,366 --> 00:46:58,296 to clarify, so that 2306 00:46:58,296 --> 00:47:00,570 to make sure that we speak as one 2307 00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:02,639 in language. In addition, in 2308 00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:03,865 me at the moment 2309 00:47:03,865 --> 00:47:04,995 there are no others 2310 00:47:04,995 --> 00:47:06,222 comments, and I...uh... 2311 00:47:06,222 --> 00:47:07,384 yes, I...I don't have one 2312 00:47:07,384 --> 00:47:08,320 problems with your 2313 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,417 development project 2314 00:47:09,417 --> 00:47:10,457 etc. I just don't 2315 00:47:10,457 --> 00:47:10,983 I think that 2316 00:47:10,983 --> 00:47:12,097 redevelopment here 2317 00:47:12,097 --> 00:47:14,799 appropriate. 2318 00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:18,951 Er...sorry. Yes, we are discussing this now, 2319 00:47:18,951 --> 00:47:20,222 so yes. Hey, Patrick, 2320 00:47:20,222 --> 00:47:20,882 do you want 2321 00:47:20,882 --> 00:47:21,771 answer this 2322 00:47:21,771 --> 00:47:22,774 question about change 2323 00:47:22,774 --> 00:47:23,491 classifications 2324 00:47:23,491 --> 00:47:24,581 land use in 2325 00:47:24,581 --> 00:47:25,699 future for this 2326 00:47:25,699 --> 00:47:26,789 areas and why it 2327 00:47:26,789 --> 00:47:27,941 was changed? 2328 00:47:27,941 --> 00:47:30,329 Uh...of course. Um, in 2329 00:47:30,329 --> 00:47:31,137 previous 2330 00:47:31,137 --> 00:47:32,332 general plan, 2331 00:47:32,332 --> 00:47:33,624 except, um, just this one 2332 00:47:33,624 --> 00:47:34,787 changes in the area, there was 2333 00:47:34,787 --> 00:47:35,950 several areas that 2334 00:47:35,950 --> 00:47:36,887 were changed to 2335 00:47:36,887 --> 00:47:38,050 master plan 2336 00:47:38,050 --> 00:47:39,310 for future map 2337 00:47:39,310 --> 00:47:42,939 land use. 2338 00:47:42,939 --> 00:47:44,205 Um, and one of the things on 2339 00:47:44,205 --> 00:47:45,231 future map 2340 00:47:45,231 --> 00:47:46,463 land use, 2341 00:47:46,463 --> 00:47:47,695 which we considered with 2342 00:47:47,695 --> 00:47:48,619 points of view, um, 2343 00:47:48,619 --> 00:47:49,577 areas that are not 2344 00:47:49,577 --> 00:47:50,466 suitable for 2345 00:47:50,466 --> 00:47:51,630 future class 2346 00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:52,999 land use on 2347 00:47:52,999 --> 00:47:54,299 at that time, um, was 2348 00:47:54,299 --> 00:47:55,360 in that big 2349 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,386 Michigan areas- 2350 00:47:56,386 --> 00:47:57,755 the avenues were just, um, 2351 00:47:57,755 --> 00:47:58,850 classified as 2352 00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:00,184 mixed use 2353 00:48:00,184 --> 00:48:04,523 . And it looked almost 2354 00:48:04,523 --> 00:48:05,394 as a kind 2355 00:48:05,394 --> 00:48:06,808 medley classification, 2356 00:48:06,808 --> 00:48:08,005 which, um, was painted 2357 00:48:08,005 --> 00:48:10,715 with a wide brush. IN 2358 00:48:10,715 --> 00:48:11,502 previous 2359 00:48:11,502 --> 00:48:12,636 master plan 2360 00:48:12,636 --> 00:48:13,801 there were several points 2361 00:48:13,801 --> 00:48:14,651 about which ones 2362 00:48:14,651 --> 00:48:15,596 large areas 2363 00:48:15,596 --> 00:48:16,635 Michigan Avenue, um, 2364 00:48:16,635 --> 00:48:17,863 will apply 2365 00:48:17,863 --> 00:48:19,059 various recommended 2366 00:48:19,059 --> 00:48:23,720 zoning. But even 2367 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,257 when we go deeper under 2368 00:48:25,257 --> 00:48:26,185 this big layer 2369 00:48:26,185 --> 00:48:26,794 mixed 2370 00:48:26,794 --> 00:48:27,754 use on 2371 00:48:27,754 --> 00:48:28,779 previous map 2372 00:48:28,779 --> 00:48:29,516 future 2373 00:48:29,516 --> 00:48:30,796 land use and 2374 00:48:30,796 --> 00:48:31,661 let's look at these 2375 00:48:31,661 --> 00:48:32,718 marked points, 2376 00:48:32,718 --> 00:48:33,614 there is a lot 2377 00:48:33,614 --> 00:48:34,319 difficulties in 2378 00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:35,599 determining which 2379 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:36,592 was a vision or 2380 00:48:36,592 --> 00:48:37,329 expediency 2381 00:48:37,329 --> 00:48:38,289 the presence of such 2382 00:48:38,289 --> 00:48:39,538 big stripes in this, um 2383 00:48:39,538 --> 00:48:40,274 , quote, zone 2384 00:48:40,274 --> 00:48:40,883 mixed 2385 00:48:40,883 --> 00:48:42,132 use, because 2386 00:48:42,132 --> 00:48:43,284 , um, she actually is 2387 00:48:43,284 --> 00:48:44,213 didn't look like 2388 00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:45,045 real zone 2389 00:48:45,045 --> 00:48:45,654 mixed 2390 00:48:45,654 --> 00:48:49,697 use, um,. AND 2391 00:48:49,697 --> 00:48:50,865 it was just great 2392 00:48:50,865 --> 00:48:51,654 the territory that 2393 00:48:51,654 --> 00:48:52,734 included, as in this 2394 00:48:52,734 --> 00:48:53,756 case, you know, this 2395 00:48:53,756 --> 00:48:54,340 could be 2396 00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:56,297 industrial, could be office, could be 2397 00:48:56,297 --> 00:48:57,457 to be C3. We don't know. 2398 00:48:57,457 --> 00:48:58,433 which one exactly, but maybe 2399 00:48:58,433 --> 00:48:59,468 be any of these 2400 00:48:59,468 --> 00:49:01,648 three. Um, that's less. 2401 00:49:01,648 --> 00:49:02,944 associated with mixed 2402 00:49:02,944 --> 00:49:03,980 using as 2403 00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:05,243 like this, and more so, 2404 00:49:05,243 --> 00:49:06,409 that we don't know what 2405 00:49:06,409 --> 00:49:07,705 this property will become 2406 00:49:07,705 --> 00:49:08,903 so let's add 2407 00:49:08,903 --> 00:49:10,134 there are three different zones 2408 00:49:10,134 --> 00:49:11,365 areas and let's see, 2409 00:49:11,365 --> 00:49:14,300 What will happen? Hmm, this is 2410 00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:14,968 not quite 2411 00:49:14,968 --> 00:49:19,141 corresponded 2412 00:49:19,141 --> 00:49:20,067 long-term 2413 00:49:20,067 --> 00:49:22,458 a plan for how we want it to look like 2414 00:49:22,458 --> 00:49:23,534 Michigan Avenue and how 2415 00:49:23,534 --> 00:49:24,311 we want to 2416 00:49:24,311 --> 00:49:25,417 other areas looked 2417 00:49:25,417 --> 00:49:25,984 mixed 2418 00:49:25,984 --> 00:49:27,167 using. Um, we 2419 00:49:27,167 --> 00:49:27,686 preserved 2420 00:49:27,686 --> 00:49:28,449 classification 2421 00:49:28,449 --> 00:49:29,029 mixed 2422 00:49:29,029 --> 00:49:29,945 use on 2423 00:49:29,945 --> 00:49:30,983 map of the future 2424 00:49:30,983 --> 00:49:32,404 land use. 2425 00:49:32,404 --> 00:49:33,548 We have clarified some 2426 00:49:33,548 --> 00:49:34,727 wording regarding 2427 00:49:34,727 --> 00:49:35,559 that she 2428 00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:36,599 will include, and we 2429 00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:37,535 reduced it to 2430 00:49:37,535 --> 00:49:38,784 specific areas that 2431 00:49:38,784 --> 00:49:39,581 would be more 2432 00:49:39,581 --> 00:49:40,829 justified for 2433 00:49:40,829 --> 00:49:41,488 mixed 2434 00:49:41,488 --> 00:49:42,632 use than 2435 00:49:42,632 --> 00:49:44,019 just, um, adding, 2436 00:49:44,019 --> 00:49:45,406 um, some incompatible ones 2437 00:49:45,406 --> 00:49:46,550 zoning districts as 2438 00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:47,695 parts of, um, plan 2439 00:49:47,695 --> 00:49:49,220 zoning. Therefore, 2440 00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:50,427 doing this when we 2441 00:49:50,427 --> 00:49:51,392 considering this 2442 00:49:51,392 --> 00:49:52,668 a plot specifically with 2443 00:49:52,668 --> 00:49:53,875 Michigan's perspective- 2444 00:49:53,875 --> 00:49:54,909 avenue, if it 2445 00:49:54,909 --> 00:49:55,357 now 2446 00:49:55,357 --> 00:49:56,530 classified as 2447 00:49:56,530 --> 00:49:57,185 mixed 2448 00:49:57,185 --> 00:49:58,495 use, and it 2449 00:49:58,495 --> 00:49:59,702 has these, um, these zone ones 2450 00:49:59,702 --> 00:50:01,046 areas that, um, have 2451 00:50:01,046 --> 00:50:02,219 many conflicts 2452 00:50:02,219 --> 00:50:03,573 between these three. So, 2453 00:50:03,573 --> 00:50:04,749 even looking at 2454 00:50:04,749 --> 00:50:05,798 this, even if we 2455 00:50:05,798 --> 00:50:06,942 were according to the previous one, 2456 00:50:06,942 --> 00:50:07,864 um, general 2457 00:50:07,864 --> 00:50:08,563 plan, we would 2458 00:50:08,563 --> 00:50:09,707 didn't really know, 2459 00:50:09,707 --> 00:50:10,661 What do you think about this? 2460 00:50:10,661 --> 00:50:11,900 the plot because it 2461 00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:12,918 could be an office, 2462 00:50:12,918 --> 00:50:14,208 industrial or C3. It 2463 00:50:14,208 --> 00:50:15,088 doesn't really give 2464 00:50:15,088 --> 00:50:16,195 no instructions regarding 2465 00:50:16,195 --> 00:50:17,019 that it can 2466 00:50:17,019 --> 00:50:19,336 make. So, when we 2467 00:50:19,336 --> 00:50:19,975 considered 2468 00:50:19,975 --> 00:50:21,101 master plan and 2469 00:50:21,101 --> 00:50:22,196 updated it, we 2470 00:50:22,196 --> 00:50:22,835 considered 2471 00:50:22,835 --> 00:50:24,022 the surrounding area 2472 00:50:24,022 --> 00:50:25,118 , er, car dealership, er, 2473 00:50:25,118 --> 00:50:26,274 selling contractor 2474 00:50:26,274 --> 00:50:27,569 pools in the east. Uh, 2475 00:50:27,569 --> 00:50:28,323 there is a little here 2476 00:50:28,323 --> 00:50:29,221 commercial 2477 00:50:29,221 --> 00:50:31,622 element. Uh, but, 2478 00:50:31,622 --> 00:50:32,885 looking at the adjacent 2479 00:50:32,885 --> 00:50:34,181 types of use, these 2480 00:50:34,181 --> 00:50:35,185 two related species 2481 00:50:35,185 --> 00:50:36,319 use, they 2482 00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:37,258 also compatible with 2483 00:50:37,258 --> 00:50:38,456 a number of different types 2484 00:50:38,456 --> 00:50:39,266 industrial 2485 00:50:39,266 --> 00:50:40,432 use like this 2486 00:50:40,432 --> 00:50:41,695 shown on the map here 2487 00:50:41,695 --> 00:50:42,861 , where, uh, dealer 2488 00:50:42,861 --> 00:50:43,962 the center is located 2489 00:50:43,962 --> 00:50:44,902 next to the old one 2490 00:50:44,902 --> 00:50:46,100 furniture warehouse on 2491 00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:47,007 in the south, which 2492 00:50:47,007 --> 00:50:50,769 southwest of this area. Ah, uh, 2493 00:50:50,769 --> 00:50:52,436 Bi-County Pools, er, 2494 00:50:52,436 --> 00:50:53,504 they are next to 2495 00:50:53,504 --> 00:50:55,214 landfill, uh, with 2496 00:50:55,214 --> 00:50:56,454 contractor that 2497 00:50:56,454 --> 00:50:59,177 supplies swimming pools. It 2498 00:50:59,177 --> 00:50:59,832 commercial 2499 00:50:59,832 --> 00:51:01,019 use, but it 2500 00:51:01,019 --> 00:51:02,174 not very intense 2501 00:51:02,174 --> 00:51:03,298 commercial traffic, where 2502 00:51:03,298 --> 00:51:04,203 you will not get 2503 00:51:04,203 --> 00:51:04,890 of this type 2504 00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:05,733 passenger 2505 00:51:05,733 --> 00:51:06,700 transport, which 2506 00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:07,856 rides for supplies 2507 00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:08,855 for the pool or in 2508 00:51:08,855 --> 00:51:09,729 store, as in 2509 00:51:09,729 --> 00:51:10,853 gas station, where people go 2510 00:51:10,853 --> 00:51:13,068 walk. If you drive a vehicle 2511 00:51:13,068 --> 00:51:14,018 by motor vehicle 2512 00:51:14,018 --> 00:51:14,696 internal 2513 00:51:14,696 --> 00:51:15,673 combustion, you will 2514 00:51:15,673 --> 00:51:16,676 refuel: some 2515 00:51:16,676 --> 00:51:17,571 in a day, some, 2516 00:51:17,571 --> 00:51:18,277 you know, once in a while 2517 00:51:18,277 --> 00:51:19,280 a week or so 2518 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,529 that. Um, in addition 2519 00:51:20,529 --> 00:51:21,608 before passing through 2520 00:51:21,608 --> 00:51:22,757 car and those 2521 00:51:22,757 --> 00:51:24,075 things that C4 sees. 2522 00:51:24,075 --> 00:51:25,007 So, um, that's enough. 2523 00:51:25,007 --> 00:51:25,843 long way 2524 00:51:25,843 --> 00:51:26,743 explain some 2525 00:51:26,743 --> 00:51:28,030 general processes 2526 00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:29,219 of a plan for, er, string 2527 00:51:29,219 --> 00:51:30,473 different areas, uh 2528 00:51:30,473 --> 00:51:31,438 , get rid of that 2529 00:51:31,438 --> 00:51:32,660 amount of mixed 2530 00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:33,882 the use we 2531 00:51:33,882 --> 00:51:34,879 classified, and 2532 00:51:34,879 --> 00:51:36,036 try to narrow down 2533 00:51:36,036 --> 00:51:37,322 area and look at 2534 00:51:37,322 --> 00:51:38,158 those areas which 2535 00:51:38,158 --> 00:51:38,866 excluded from 2536 00:51:38,866 --> 00:51:39,670 classifications 2537 00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:40,281 mixed 2538 00:51:40,281 --> 00:51:41,567 use, and then 2539 00:51:41,567 --> 00:51:42,724 determine which one is theirs 2540 00:51:42,724 --> 00:51:43,592 most appropriate 2541 00:51:43,592 --> 00:51:44,139 future 2542 00:51:44,139 --> 00:51:45,365 land use. 2543 00:51:45,365 --> 00:51:46,120 Considering this 2544 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,741 plot for, 2545 00:51:46,741 --> 00:51:47,254 newly 2546 00:51:47,254 --> 00:51:48,306 specified in our 2547 00:51:48,306 --> 00:51:49,332 personnel report, uh, 2548 00:51:49,332 --> 00:51:50,330 more appropriate for 2549 00:51:50,330 --> 00:51:50,843 general 2550 00:51:50,843 --> 00:51:51,599 industry, 2551 00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:52,651 just coming out of, uh 2552 00:51:52,651 --> 00:51:53,731 , current zoning 2553 00:51:53,731 --> 00:51:54,308 district. It 2554 00:51:54,308 --> 00:51:55,266 general industrial, 2555 00:51:55,266 --> 00:51:55,947 that's why it was 2556 00:51:55,947 --> 00:51:56,502 zoned as 2557 00:51:56,502 --> 00:51:57,436 general industrial 2558 00:51:57,436 --> 00:51:58,243 for several 2559 00:51:58,243 --> 00:51:59,583 years. Um, and this area 2560 00:51:59,583 --> 00:52:01,013 seems appropriate. AND 2561 00:52:01,013 --> 00:52:02,332 also neighboring areas 2562 00:52:02,332 --> 00:52:03,347 use with 2563 00:52:03,347 --> 00:52:04,498 landfill and 2564 00:52:04,498 --> 00:52:05,897 Canton Renewables. Um, and then 2565 00:52:05,897 --> 00:52:06,830 in our report 2566 00:52:06,830 --> 00:52:08,869 staff we note that, uh, 2567 00:52:08,869 --> 00:52:10,282 There is also a torch behind. 2568 00:52:10,282 --> 00:52:11,472 So at night sometimes it can 2569 00:52:11,472 --> 00:52:13,516 to be quite bright with this torch. 2570 00:52:13,516 --> 00:52:16,882 Hmm. Thank you. Okay, me. 2571 00:52:16,882 --> 00:52:18,069 nothing to add to 2572 00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:19,289 what has already been said 2573 00:52:19,289 --> 00:52:20,576 my colleagues on the committee 2574 00:52:20,576 --> 00:52:23,646 . Um, so I guess, er, we can consider 2575 00:52:23,646 --> 00:52:34,421 petition. 2576 00:52:34,421 --> 00:52:35,790 I'll take the metal thing. 2577 00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:35,926 . 2578 00:52:35,926 --> 00:52:37,343 I-I-I-I-I'll do it. 2579 00:52:37,343 --> 00:52:37,926 Good. 2580 00:52:37,926 --> 00:52:39,074 Unless you 2581 00:52:39,074 --> 00:52:40,220 Do you want to do this? 2582 00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:40,713 Brian. 2583 00:52:40,713 --> 00:52:42,982 This is quite long. Uh, 2584 00:52:42,982 --> 00:52:46,738 Of course, I'll take it. Uh, 2585 00:52:46,738 --> 00:52:48,163 I-I tried, uh, 2586 00:52:48,163 --> 00:52:49,761 to shorten something, but, 2587 00:52:49,761 --> 00:52:50,495 I think we 2588 00:52:50,495 --> 00:52:53,468 Let's move on. I propose 2589 00:52:53,468 --> 00:52:54,574 recommended 2590 00:52:54,574 --> 00:52:56,048 refusal of the request for 2591 00:52:56,048 --> 00:52:57,277 zoning change 2592 00:52:57,277 --> 00:52:58,342 plot number 2593 00:52:58,342 --> 00:52:59,121 137-99-0027-000 from 2594 00:52:59,121 --> 00:53:00,800 general industrial 2595 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,070 GI appointment on 2596 00:53:02,070 --> 00:53:03,686 long-distance service C4. 2597 00:53:03,686 --> 00:53:04,779 Since the proposal 2598 00:53:04,779 --> 00:53:05,526 does not respond 2599 00:53:05,526 --> 00:53:06,677 following standards 2600 00:53:06,677 --> 00:53:07,367 section 27.06 D4 2601 00:53:07,367 --> 00:53:08,115 resolutions on 2602 00:53:08,115 --> 00:53:08,834 zoning, this 2603 00:53:08,834 --> 00:53:09,783 stated in the report 2604 00:53:09,783 --> 00:53:10,474 staff and 2605 00:53:10,474 --> 00:53:11,624 accompanying attachments 2606 00:53:11,624 --> 00:53:12,732 to the report. Firstly, 2607 00:53:12,732 --> 00:53:13,602 proposed 2608 00:53:13,602 --> 00:53:14,311 amendment not 2609 00:53:14,311 --> 00:53:15,536 corresponds to the main 2610 00:53:15,536 --> 00:53:16,664 the purpose of the resolution on 2611 00:53:16,664 --> 00:53:17,760 zoning, and the statement 2612 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,017 about Zoning intentions 2613 00:53:19,017 --> 00:53:19,435 district 2614 00:53:19,435 --> 00:53:20,370 service 2615 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:21,176 transport 2616 00:53:21,176 --> 00:53:22,433 C4 solutions in section 2617 00:53:22,433 --> 00:53:23,464 18.01 resolution on 2618 00:53:23,464 --> 00:53:24,495 zoning describes 2619 00:53:24,495 --> 00:53:25,784 zoning district, which 2620 00:53:25,784 --> 00:53:26,848 is unsuitable for 2621 00:53:26,848 --> 00:53:27,718 of this area, 2622 00:53:27,718 --> 00:53:28,652 because he is not 2623 00:53:28,652 --> 00:53:29,941 adjacent to the junction 2624 00:53:29,941 --> 00:53:31,005 motorways or to 2625 00:53:31,005 --> 00:53:32,262 commercial district, 2626 00:53:32,262 --> 00:53:33,261 adjacent to 2627 00:53:33,261 --> 00:53:34,618 motorway junctions. 2628 00:53:34,618 --> 00:53:35,139 Second, 2629 00:53:35,139 --> 00:53:35,968 proposed 2630 00:53:35,968 --> 00:53:37,134 the amendment contradicts 2631 00:53:37,134 --> 00:53:38,270 the master plan, 2632 00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:39,436 which recommends that 2633 00:53:39,436 --> 00:53:40,326 this area was 2634 00:53:40,326 --> 00:53:41,554 geographically object, 2635 00:53:41,554 --> 00:53:42,721 and neighboring areas on 2636 00:53:42,721 --> 00:53:43,703 west, south and 2637 00:53:43,703 --> 00:53:44,255 east–as 2638 00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:45,237 light industry, 2639 00:53:45,237 --> 00:53:46,220 landfills and 2640 00:53:46,220 --> 00:53:47,355 general industrial 2641 00:53:47,355 --> 00:53:48,819 objects respectively. 2642 00:53:48,819 --> 00:53:49,965 Third, although some 2643 00:53:49,965 --> 00:53:50,988 conditions have changed since 2644 00:53:50,988 --> 00:53:52,042 moment of acceptance 2645 00:53:52,042 --> 00:53:52,848 resolutions on 2646 00:53:52,848 --> 00:53:54,057 zoning, recently 2647 00:53:54,057 --> 00:53:54,645 accepted 2648 00:53:54,645 --> 00:53:55,637 master plan 2649 00:53:55,637 --> 00:53:56,567 considers more 2650 00:53:56,567 --> 00:53:57,683 suitable options 2651 00:53:57,683 --> 00:53:58,458 development, which 2652 00:53:58,458 --> 00:53:59,109 take into account 2653 00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:59,760 contextual 2654 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,968 sensitivity of the territory 2655 00:54:00,968 --> 00:54:01,619 , including 2656 00:54:01,619 --> 00:54:02,797 Sauk Trail Landfill 2657 00:54:02,797 --> 00:54:03,975 Hills and Kent Renewables, which are 2658 00:54:03,975 --> 00:54:04,564 mainly 2659 00:54:04,564 --> 00:54:06,283 industrial. 2660 00:54:06,283 --> 00:54:07,256 Master plan 2661 00:54:07,256 --> 00:54:08,168 passed active 2662 00:54:08,168 --> 00:54:09,111 participation and analysis 2663 00:54:09,111 --> 00:54:10,145 the public, and in 2664 00:54:10,145 --> 00:54:11,301 result carefully 2665 00:54:11,301 --> 00:54:11,818 took into account 2666 00:54:11,818 --> 00:54:12,974 land use 2667 00:54:12,974 --> 00:54:14,039 and special zones 2668 00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:14,951 planning, and not 2669 00:54:14,951 --> 00:54:16,107 supports zoning 2670 00:54:16,107 --> 00:54:17,283 C4 in this area. On- 2671 00:54:17,283 --> 00:54:17,873 fourth, 2672 00:54:17,873 --> 00:54:18,824 redevelopment 2673 00:54:18,824 --> 00:54:20,070 areas at the junction 2674 00:54:20,070 --> 00:54:21,348 C4 will provide special 2675 00:54:21,348 --> 00:54:22,659 privileges, because this 2676 00:54:22,659 --> 00:54:23,315 the plot is not 2677 00:54:23,315 --> 00:54:24,233 planned as 2678 00:54:24,233 --> 00:54:25,544 general commercial in 2679 00:54:25,544 --> 00:54:26,724 master plan 2680 00:54:26,724 --> 00:54:27,806 and not located 2681 00:54:27,806 --> 00:54:29,019 near the junction, and 2682 00:54:29,019 --> 00:54:30,330 area C4 is unsuitable 2683 00:54:30,330 --> 00:54:31,313 for development, which 2684 00:54:31,313 --> 00:54:32,133 encouraged 2685 00:54:32,133 --> 00:54:33,411 master plan in 2686 00:54:33,411 --> 00:54:34,517 this zone. If 2687 00:54:34,517 --> 00:54:35,816 C4 interchange zoning 2688 00:54:35,816 --> 00:54:36,822 will be approved on 2689 00:54:36,822 --> 00:54:37,731 area that is not 2690 00:54:37,731 --> 00:54:38,705 planned for 2691 00:54:38,705 --> 00:54:39,972 general commercial 2692 00:54:39,972 --> 00:54:40,751 activities in 2693 00:54:40,751 --> 00:54:41,952 general plan, 2694 00:54:41,952 --> 00:54:43,186 providing special 2695 00:54:43,186 --> 00:54:43,966 privileges of this 2696 00:54:43,966 --> 00:54:45,134 property will create 2697 00:54:45,134 --> 00:54:46,572 an unequal situation. On- 2698 00:54:46,572 --> 00:54:47,891 fifth, in Kent Township 2699 00:54:47,891 --> 00:54:49,320 there are already many districts, 2700 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,455 which are attributed to 2701 00:54:50,455 --> 00:54:51,921 C4 interchange zoning 2702 00:54:51,921 --> 00:54:53,350 and/or supported 2703 00:54:53,350 --> 00:54:54,669 master plan 2704 00:54:54,669 --> 00:54:55,841 zoning C4, therefore 2705 00:54:55,841 --> 00:54:57,233 refusal of this application 2706 00:54:57,233 --> 00:54:58,479 for redevelopment 2707 00:54:58,479 --> 00:54:59,871 areas at the junction 2708 00:54:59,871 --> 00:55:01,418 C4 is not exclusive. On- 2709 00:55:01,418 --> 00:55:02,573 sixth, proposed 2710 00:55:02,573 --> 00:55:03,225 amendment to 2711 00:55:03,225 --> 00:55:04,409 C4 interchange zoning 2712 00:55:04,409 --> 00:55:05,594 will create the appropriate 2713 00:55:05,594 --> 00:55:06,690 precedent, because 2714 00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:07,401 she will blow up 2715 00:55:07,401 --> 00:55:08,497 master plan and 2716 00:55:08,497 --> 00:55:09,060 will contribute 2717 00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:09,741 improper 2718 00:55:09,741 --> 00:55:10,926 zoning of the C4 interchange 2719 00:55:10,926 --> 00:55:11,934 in areas where it is not 2720 00:55:11,934 --> 00:55:12,763 planned or 2721 00:55:12,763 --> 00:55:14,005 undesirable. Seventh, 2722 00:55:14,005 --> 00:55:15,207 C4 interchange area 2723 00:55:15,207 --> 00:55:16,634 particularly incompatible 2724 00:55:16,634 --> 00:55:17,385 with the existing 2725 00:55:17,385 --> 00:55:18,887 Sauk Trail landfill 2726 00:55:18,887 --> 00:55:19,300 Hills and 2727 00:55:19,300 --> 00:55:20,689 land use 2728 00:55:20,689 --> 00:55:24,558 Kent Renewables to the south. 2729 00:55:24,558 --> 00:55:25,918 Eight, finally, the district 2730 00:55:25,918 --> 00:55:26,929 service 2731 00:55:26,929 --> 00:55:27,836 C4 solutions are not 2732 00:55:27,836 --> 00:55:28,568 corresponds 2733 00:55:28,568 --> 00:55:29,893 development trends 2734 00:55:29,893 --> 00:55:31,114 of land in total 2735 00:55:31,114 --> 00:55:31,881 area, 2736 00:55:31,881 --> 00:55:33,206 including recent 2737 00:55:33,206 --> 00:55:33,939 expansion 2738 00:55:33,939 --> 00:55:34,915 playground for 2739 00:55:34,915 --> 00:55:36,310 landfill recycling 2740 00:55:36,310 --> 00:55:37,356 Kent Renewables gas on 2741 00:55:37,356 --> 00:55:38,715 South. 2742 00:55:38,715 --> 00:55:39,565 I support. 2743 00:55:39,565 --> 00:55:40,342 Okay, we have 2744 00:55:40,342 --> 00:55:41,525 Commissioner's proposal 2745 00:55:41,525 --> 00:55:42,210 Watkins and 2746 00:55:42,210 --> 00:55:43,330 Commissioner's support 2747 00:55:43,330 --> 00:55:44,340 Weber. Any 2748 00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:45,573 further discussion 2749 00:55:45,573 --> 00:55:47,406 ? Okay, Commissioner Lee, 2750 00:55:47,406 --> 00:55:48,321 Could you please? 2751 00:55:48,321 --> 00:55:48,920 to announce 2752 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,746 voting? 2753 00:55:49,746 --> 00:55:51,489 Commissioner Lee, no. I have 2754 00:55:51,489 --> 00:55:52,933 I mean, yes. Yes, 2755 00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:53,892 deviation. 2756 00:55:53,892 --> 00:55:54,295 Yes. 2757 00:55:54,295 --> 00:55:55,951 Good. Commissioner Malloy 2758 00:55:55,951 --> 00:55:57,712 ? Yes. Commissioner 2759 00:55:57,712 --> 00:55:58,422 Singh? 2760 00:55:58,422 --> 00:55:58,882 Yes. 2761 00:55:58,882 --> 00:56:00,148 Commissioner Waters? 2762 00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:00,542 Yes. 2763 00:56:00,542 --> 00:56:01,882 Commissioner Watkins? 2764 00:56:01,882 --> 00:56:02,285 Yes. 2765 00:56:02,285 --> 00:56:03,465 Commissioner Weber? 2766 00:56:03,465 --> 00:56:04,359 Yes. 2767 00:56:04,359 --> 00:56:05,646 And Chairman Zuber? 2768 00:56:05,646 --> 00:56:07,502 Yes. So, the proposal 2769 00:56:07,502 --> 00:56:14,238 accepted. Thank you. 2770 00:56:14,238 --> 00:56:15,538 Okay, we have 2771 00:56:15,538 --> 00:56:17,098 next point 2772 00:56:17,098 --> 00:56:18,919 agenda is 2773 00:56:18,919 --> 00:56:20,635 new business, and this 2774 00:56:20,635 --> 00:56:22,664 item number D I R {dash} P Z 2775 00:56:22,664 --> 00:56:24,692 26-00160, and this is Target on Ford 2776 00:56:24,692 --> 00:56:29,001 Road. We are considering 2777 00:56:29,001 --> 00:56:31,011 making changes to 2778 00:56:31,011 --> 00:56:33,020 plot plan on 2779 00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:35,418 plot number 040 {dash} 2780 00:56:35,418 --> 00:56:37,427 99-0006-701, which also 2781 00:56:37,427 --> 00:56:39,890 known as 4367 43670 Ford 2782 00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:41,271 Road. Real estate 2783 00:56:41,271 --> 00:56:42,120 located on 2784 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,152 north side 2785 00:56:43,152 --> 00:56:44,213 Ford Road, between North- 2786 00:56:44,213 --> 00:56:45,426 Morton Taylor Road and 2787 00:56:45,426 --> 00:56:46,467 North Sheldon Road. 2788 00:56:46,467 --> 00:56:47,429 They offer 2789 00:56:47,429 --> 00:56:48,713 some changes to the facade and 2790 00:56:48,713 --> 00:56:49,832 signs. Patrick, 2791 00:56:49,832 --> 00:56:52,182 tell us, Please, that's all. 2792 00:56:52,182 --> 00:56:57,210 Of course, thank you. Therefore, 2793 00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:58,284 Target on Ford Road 2794 00:56:58,284 --> 00:56:59,608 plans to make some 2795 00:56:59,608 --> 00:57:00,681 changes to the facade, 2796 00:57:00,681 --> 00:57:01,862 mainly on 2797 00:57:01,862 --> 00:57:03,007 west side 2798 00:57:03,007 --> 00:57:04,081 building, which, um, 2799 00:57:04,081 --> 00:57:04,868 goes out on 2800 00:57:04,868 --> 00:57:06,264 common entrance, which 2801 00:57:06,264 --> 00:57:07,659 adjacent to Fifth Third Bank 2802 00:57:07,659 --> 00:57:13,183 and BJ's gas stations. Therefore, 2803 00:57:13,183 --> 00:57:14,337 changes to the facade, hmm, 2804 00:57:14,337 --> 00:57:15,230 not really 2805 00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:16,681 planned around, 2806 00:57:16,681 --> 00:57:18,133 hmm, the main facade, 2807 00:57:18,133 --> 00:57:21,390 visible from Ford Road. 2808 00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:22,704 Although this implies 2809 00:57:22,704 --> 00:57:23,946 hmm, painting already 2810 00:57:23,946 --> 00:57:25,371 painted areas 2811 00:57:25,371 --> 00:57:28,771 . Hmm, there is a significant part 2812 00:57:28,771 --> 00:57:30,092 buildings, it is prefabricated 2813 00:57:30,092 --> 00:57:31,485 concrete product that 2814 00:57:31,485 --> 00:57:32,916 currently painted, 2815 00:57:32,916 --> 00:57:33,833 and, um, the applicant 2816 00:57:33,833 --> 00:57:34,456 offers 2817 00:57:34,456 --> 00:57:35,703 repaint, hmm, 2818 00:57:35,703 --> 00:57:38,699 some of these areas. AND 2819 00:57:38,699 --> 00:57:40,148 , hmm, the shades are enough 2820 00:57:40,148 --> 00:57:41,597 similar to what is there, 2821 00:57:41,597 --> 00:57:42,741 from the point of view of, um, 2822 00:57:42,741 --> 00:57:44,114 many earthy 2823 00:57:44,114 --> 00:57:48,360 tones. Hmm, existing, hmm, 2824 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,840 brick areas, hmm, 2825 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,880 not planned 2826 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,200 to paint, hmm, or 2827 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,800 delete, except 2828 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,360 several, hmm, brick ones 2829 00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:02,227 areas near the entrance. 2830 00:58:02,227 --> 00:58:03,235 Hmm, uh, reason 2831 00:58:03,235 --> 00:58:04,639 proposed, uh, 2832 00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:06,044 brick removal near 2833 00:58:06,044 --> 00:58:07,448 entrance is that 2834 00:58:07,448 --> 00:58:08,781 to cover it, uh 2835 00:58:08,781 --> 00:58:10,077 ...I'll try to see, 2836 00:58:10,077 --> 00:58:11,302 can I get 2837 00:58:11,302 --> 00:58:12,598 visual representation 2838 00:58:12,598 --> 00:58:19,215 here. Yes, there is, uh, 2839 00:58:19,215 --> 00:58:20,493 Nichiha siding, which 2840 00:58:20,493 --> 00:58:21,190 similar to 2841 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:22,313 fiber cement 2842 00:58:22,313 --> 00:58:23,591 siding, which, uh, 2843 00:58:23,591 --> 00:58:24,830 the applicant proposes 2844 00:58:24,830 --> 00:58:26,069 to set, uh, with 2845 00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:27,347 left and right 2846 00:58:27,347 --> 00:58:33,830 sides of the entrance. AND 2847 00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:35,012 images provided 2848 00:58:35,012 --> 00:58:36,330 applicant, show 2849 00:58:36,330 --> 00:58:37,513 those areas where they 2850 00:58:37,513 --> 00:58:38,797 suggest deleting 2851 00:58:38,797 --> 00:58:40,951 brick. Uh, first of all, there is 2852 00:58:40,951 --> 00:58:42,445 this one is, uh, painted 2853 00:58:42,445 --> 00:58:43,841 red brick. I am not 2854 00:58:43,841 --> 00:58:44,766 sure when it 2855 00:58:44,766 --> 00:58:45,472 painted in 2856 00:58:45,472 --> 00:58:46,451 red color, but 2857 00:58:46,451 --> 00:58:47,403 she is from 2858 00:58:47,403 --> 00:58:48,300 left and right 2859 00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:50,249 sides of the entrance. Uh, 2860 00:58:50,249 --> 00:58:51,503 the applicant proposes 2861 00:58:51,503 --> 00:58:52,640 to set, uh, 2862 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,777 fiber cement 2863 00:58:53,777 --> 00:58:55,305 siding Nichiha floor, e 2864 00:58:55,305 --> 00:58:58,152 -uh, these areas. And I think that 2865 00:58:58,152 --> 00:58:59,498 something is offered 2866 00:58:59,498 --> 00:59:00,533 kind of imitation 2867 00:59:00,533 --> 00:59:03,738 wood. Uh, further, there is, 2868 00:59:03,738 --> 00:59:04,954 uh, painted 2869 00:59:04,954 --> 00:59:06,372 brown brick behind 2870 00:59:06,372 --> 00:59:09,074 the current Target sign. 2871 00:59:09,074 --> 00:59:10,485 And, uh, she's drowned. 2872 00:59:10,485 --> 00:59:11,744 from this main 2873 00:59:11,744 --> 00:59:13,671 facade area. Uh, 2874 00:59:13,671 --> 00:59:14,855 the applicant proposes 2875 00:59:14,855 --> 00:59:15,816 cover it with EIFS ( 2876 00:59:15,816 --> 00:59:16,666 electronically 2877 00:59:16,666 --> 00:59:17,665 ventilation 2878 00:59:17,665 --> 00:59:18,996 system) and do 2879 00:59:18,996 --> 00:59:20,290 his, uh, on a par with 2880 00:59:20,290 --> 00:59:21,251 the rest of the facade 2881 00:59:21,251 --> 00:59:24,340 left and right. AND, 2882 00:59:24,340 --> 00:59:25,719 hmm, that will also remove 2883 00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:26,427 brick, which 2884 00:59:26,427 --> 00:59:30,808 is behind. 2885 00:59:30,808 --> 00:59:31,823 Therefore, the applicant 2886 00:59:31,823 --> 00:59:33,448 offers, um, on this 2887 00:59:33,448 --> 00:59:34,869 front facade, 2888 00:59:34,869 --> 00:59:36,047 which is western 2889 00:59:36,047 --> 00:59:37,022 aside, um, 2890 00:59:37,022 --> 00:59:38,646 reduce approximately 743 2891 00:59:38,646 --> 00:59:39,865 square feet 2892 00:59:39,865 --> 00:59:45,999 bricks. And this will reduce 2893 00:59:45,999 --> 00:59:48,901 total percentage 2894 00:59:48,901 --> 00:59:51,964 bricks in the building with 26.41% 2895 00:59:51,964 --> 00:59:56,354 up to 24.28%. Hmm, in particular, on 2896 00:59:56,354 --> 00:59:58,171 west side 2897 00:59:58,171 --> 00:59:59,306 these buildings 2898 00:59:59,306 --> 01:00:01,463 proposed changes 2899 01:00:01,463 --> 01:00:03,677 will reduce it from 32.6% to 2900 01:00:03,677 --> 01:00:06,225 25.4%. Um, for now 2901 01:00:06,225 --> 01:00:07,263 resolution on 2902 01:00:07,263 --> 01:00:08,660 zoning requires, 2903 01:00:08,660 --> 01:00:09,777 so that commercial 2904 01:00:09,777 --> 01:00:11,294 the buildings were made of brick 2905 01:00:11,294 --> 01:00:14,179 by 50%. Um, this building 2906 01:00:14,179 --> 01:00:15,509 was built before 2907 01:00:15,509 --> 01:00:16,991 how we had these 2908 01:00:16,991 --> 01:00:18,510 brick standards, 2909 01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:19,992 so, um, from the perspective of 2910 01:00:19,992 --> 01:00:21,246 requirements 50%brick, this 2911 01:00:21,246 --> 01:00:22,728 not even close 2912 01:00:22,728 --> 01:00:25,775 . Um, one of the main 2913 01:00:25,775 --> 01:00:27,220 questions: even if 2914 01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:28,786 is it less than 50%, um, or 2915 01:00:28,786 --> 01:00:29,870 supported 2916 01:00:29,870 --> 01:00:31,356 further reduction, 2917 01:00:31,356 --> 01:00:32,319 um, commission on 2918 01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:35,212 planning? Hmm, some 2919 01:00:35,212 --> 01:00:36,556 areas where it does 2920 01:00:36,556 --> 01:00:37,417 it is a little less 2921 01:00:37,417 --> 01:00:38,658 impressive, is that 2922 01:00:38,658 --> 01:00:39,863 these brick areas 2923 01:00:39,863 --> 01:00:40,828 deep from 2924 01:00:40,828 --> 01:00:41,965 main facade, 2925 01:00:41,965 --> 01:00:43,068 so they are not like that 2926 01:00:43,068 --> 01:00:44,101 noticeable, like another 2927 01:00:44,101 --> 01:00:45,341 the main brick in this 2928 01:00:45,341 --> 01:00:47,027 zone. Um, they too 2929 01:00:47,027 --> 01:00:48,621 already painted. Um, 2930 01:00:48,621 --> 01:00:49,973 so these are some things that 2931 01:00:49,973 --> 01:00:51,152 if it were any 2932 01:00:51,152 --> 01:00:52,261 what other brick on 2933 01:00:52,261 --> 01:00:53,371 the building they 2934 01:00:53,371 --> 01:00:54,723 would like to paint 2935 01:00:54,723 --> 01:00:55,971 or delete, um, this 2936 01:00:55,971 --> 01:00:56,976 it would be much 2937 01:00:56,976 --> 01:00:58,668 more impressive. Um, although 2938 01:00:58,668 --> 01:00:59,775 this is near the entrance, this is 2939 01:00:59,775 --> 01:01:00,954 more noticeably, um, 2940 01:01:00,954 --> 01:01:02,275 it is painted and 2941 01:01:02,275 --> 01:01:05,683 deep. Um, too 2942 01:01:05,683 --> 01:01:06,892 there is, um, the wording in 2943 01:01:06,892 --> 01:01:07,688 central 2944 01:01:07,688 --> 01:01:08,929 business district regarding 2945 01:01:08,929 --> 01:01:10,139 colors and textures, 2946 01:01:10,139 --> 01:01:10,998 what, um, colors 2947 01:01:10,998 --> 01:01:11,762 must be 2948 01:01:11,762 --> 01:01:12,717 muffled by 2949 01:01:12,717 --> 01:01:13,831 in tones, um, low 2950 01:01:13,831 --> 01:01:14,627 coefficient 2951 01:01:14,627 --> 01:01:15,900 reflection of neutrals 2952 01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:17,173 and earthy colors, 2953 01:01:17,173 --> 01:01:18,160 er, use 2954 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,274 high-intensity 2955 01:01:19,274 --> 01:01:20,452 colors, metallic 2956 01:01:20,452 --> 01:01:21,661 colors, black and 2957 01:01:21,661 --> 01:01:22,648 fluorescent 2958 01:01:22,648 --> 01:01:24,465 colors are prohibited. 2959 01:01:24,465 --> 01:01:25,572 Um, earthy colors 2960 01:01:25,572 --> 01:01:26,279 remain 2961 01:01:26,279 --> 01:01:27,110 prevailing 2962 01:01:27,110 --> 01:01:27,848 in colors on 2963 01:01:27,848 --> 01:01:28,832 west side 2964 01:01:28,832 --> 01:01:30,401 buildings. Um, red. 2965 01:01:30,401 --> 01:01:31,357 the area will be smaller 2966 01:01:31,357 --> 01:01:32,527 noticeable, um, if 2967 01:01:32,527 --> 01:01:33,909 view from Ford Road, 2968 01:01:33,909 --> 01:01:35,007 um, but she will be 2969 01:01:35,007 --> 01:01:36,354 more noticeable if 2970 01:01:36,354 --> 01:01:37,381 to look, um, with 2971 01:01:37,381 --> 01:01:39,135 shared entrance. 2972 01:01:39,135 --> 01:01:40,413 So, if you look 2973 01:01:40,413 --> 01:01:41,500 before and after, 2974 01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:42,554 changes in the western 2975 01:01:42,554 --> 01:01:43,769 side from the point of view 2976 01:01:43,769 --> 01:01:45,048 paint color changes are 2977 01:01:45,048 --> 01:01:46,326 significant from the point of view of 2978 01:01:46,326 --> 01:01:47,349 number of new 2979 01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:48,499 red one, which one is there 2980 01:01:48,499 --> 01:01:51,993 is offered. It 2981 01:01:51,993 --> 01:01:52,950 just a question, 2982 01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:53,908 because this, um, 2983 01:01:53,908 --> 01:01:55,163 rather secondary 2984 01:01:55,163 --> 01:01:56,384 color in relation 2985 01:01:56,384 --> 01:01:57,540 to other earthy 2986 01:01:57,540 --> 01:01:58,795 tones on this side 2987 01:01:58,795 --> 01:02:00,016 buildings, hmm, the main thing 2988 01:02:00,016 --> 01:02:01,106 the question is 2989 01:02:01,106 --> 01:02:02,328 so, is it appropriate there? 2990 01:02:02,328 --> 01:02:07,200 red scale. 2991 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,194 Finally, hmm, what 2992 01:02:08,194 --> 01:02:09,558 regarding signage, 2993 01:02:09,558 --> 01:02:10,553 hmm, it will be, hmm, 2994 01:02:10,553 --> 01:02:11,290 question to 2995 01:02:11,290 --> 01:02:12,579 the appeal board with 2996 01:02:12,579 --> 01:02:14,675 zoning issues. 2997 01:02:14,675 --> 01:02:15,811 The applicant submitted an application. 2998 01:02:15,811 --> 01:02:16,802 for deviation, so that 2999 01:02:16,802 --> 01:02:17,734 allow more 3000 01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:18,754 wall signs, 3001 01:02:18,754 --> 01:02:19,512 than allowed 3002 01:02:19,512 --> 01:02:20,328 by a resolution on 3003 01:02:20,328 --> 01:02:20,982 zoning. 3004 01:02:20,982 --> 01:02:21,650 Maximum 3005 01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:22,523 permissible area 3006 01:02:22,523 --> 01:02:23,512 wall signs 3007 01:02:23,512 --> 01:02:24,181 is 150 3008 01:02:24,181 --> 01:02:25,212 square feet. 3009 01:02:25,212 --> 01:02:26,386 The applicant proposes 3010 01:02:26,386 --> 01:02:27,487 increase the area 3011 01:02:27,487 --> 01:02:28,919 wall signs to 3012 01:02:28,919 --> 01:02:30,511 488 square feet. AND 3013 01:02:30,511 --> 01:02:35,039 , hmm, main focus, hmm 3014 01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:36,420 , changes, differences, 3015 01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:37,620 is that 3016 01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:38,964 regarding the wall area 3017 01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:40,236 signs, if there are any, hmm, 3018 01:02:40,236 --> 01:02:41,436 building with a strip 3019 01:02:41,436 --> 01:02:42,453 diversion, hmm, 3020 01:02:42,453 --> 01:02:43,471 located on 3021 01:02:43,471 --> 01:02:44,634 distances less than 150 3022 01:02:44,634 --> 01:02:45,688 feet from the lane 3023 01:02:45,688 --> 01:02:47,142 diversion, and the building 3024 01:02:47,142 --> 01:02:48,232 Target is located 3025 01:02:48,232 --> 01:02:49,431 quite close to 3026 01:02:49,431 --> 01:02:51,205 Ford Road. 3027 01:02:51,205 --> 01:02:51,953 Maximum 3028 01:02:51,953 --> 01:02:52,929 permissible area 3029 01:02:52,929 --> 01:02:54,036 wall signs 3030 01:02:54,036 --> 01:02:54,784 is 150 3031 01:02:54,784 --> 01:02:56,101 square feet. And in 3032 01:02:56,101 --> 01:02:56,862 resolution on 3033 01:02:56,862 --> 01:02:57,973 zoning is permissible 3034 01:02:57,973 --> 01:02:58,851 wall area 3035 01:02:58,851 --> 01:02:59,992 signage is increasing 3036 01:02:59,992 --> 01:03:00,753 when the building 3037 01:03:00,753 --> 01:03:01,689 moves away from 3038 01:03:01,689 --> 01:03:02,887 main road. Therefore 3039 01:03:02,887 --> 01:03:03,909 , hmm, this question will be 3040 01:03:03,909 --> 01:03:04,737 to be considered on 3041 01:03:04,737 --> 01:03:05,262 meeting 3042 01:03:05,262 --> 01:03:06,228 the appeal board with 3043 01:03:06,228 --> 01:03:07,112 zoning issues 3044 01:03:07,112 --> 01:03:08,216 this Thursday, um, on 3045 01:03:08,216 --> 01:03:08,741 meeting 3046 01:03:08,741 --> 01:03:09,707 the appeal board with 3047 01:03:09,707 --> 01:03:10,691 zoning issues. 3048 01:03:10,691 --> 01:03:11,702 So, um, commissions from 3049 01:03:11,702 --> 01:03:12,684 planning, hmm, no 3050 01:03:12,684 --> 01:03:13,457 will need 3051 01:03:13,457 --> 01:03:14,498 to make decisions with 3052 01:03:14,498 --> 01:03:15,372 about this. 3053 01:03:15,372 --> 01:03:16,185 Zone decision 3054 01:03:16,185 --> 01:03:17,023 wall signs 3055 01:03:17,023 --> 01:03:17,885 will be based on 3056 01:03:17,885 --> 01:03:18,378 application for 3057 01:03:18,378 --> 01:03:19,290 deviation, submitted 3058 01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:20,276 to the Board of Appeal with 3059 01:03:20,276 --> 01:03:21,349 zoning issues. But 3060 01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:22,182 , recommendation 3061 01:03:22,182 --> 01:03:22,767 staff 3062 01:03:22,767 --> 01:03:23,846 The Board of Appeal with 3063 01:03:23,846 --> 01:03:24,832 zoning issues 3064 01:03:24,832 --> 01:03:25,911 is to 3065 01:03:25,911 --> 01:03:27,051 reject this request 3066 01:03:27,051 --> 01:03:28,099 for deviation, but 3067 01:03:28,099 --> 01:03:28,684 allow 3068 01:03:28,684 --> 01:03:29,855 modified query 3069 01:03:29,855 --> 01:03:31,088 for deviation, according to 3070 01:03:31,088 --> 01:03:31,920 with which instead 3071 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,153 distance measurement 3072 01:03:33,153 --> 01:03:34,324 front indentation 3073 01:03:34,324 --> 01:03:35,433 yards from Ford Road 3074 01:03:35,433 --> 01:03:36,235 for wall-mounted 3075 01:03:36,235 --> 01:03:37,375 signs, measure 3076 01:03:37,375 --> 01:03:38,484 wall distribution 3077 01:03:38,484 --> 01:03:39,501 signs based on 3078 01:03:39,501 --> 01:03:40,241 distance from 3079 01:03:40,241 --> 01:03:41,381 common entrance 3080 01:03:41,381 --> 01:03:46,316 west. We claim this because 3081 01:03:46,316 --> 01:03:47,342 that in the resolution on 3082 01:03:47,342 --> 01:03:47,915 zoning 3083 01:03:47,915 --> 01:03:48,789 recommended 3084 01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:49,362 recognize 3085 01:03:49,362 --> 01:03:50,448 proportionality between 3086 01:03:50,448 --> 01:03:51,474 a great distance 3087 01:03:51,474 --> 01:03:52,680 buildings from the road and 3088 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,705 increasing the area 3089 01:03:53,705 --> 01:03:54,821 signs, the further you go 3090 01:03:54,821 --> 01:03:55,786 moving away from 3091 01:03:55,786 --> 01:04:00,056 roads. In the resolution 3092 01:04:00,056 --> 01:04:00,908 about zoning is 3093 01:04:00,908 --> 01:04:02,082 factor that allows 3094 01:04:02,082 --> 01:04:02,934 more signs, 3095 01:04:02,934 --> 01:04:03,873 because the building 3096 01:04:03,873 --> 01:04:05,018 is further from 3097 01:04:05,018 --> 01:04:05,928 roads to a certain 3098 01:04:05,928 --> 01:04:07,006 distances. So, our 3099 01:04:07,006 --> 01:04:07,711 recommendation 3100 01:04:07,711 --> 01:04:08,697 The Board of Appeal with 3101 01:04:08,697 --> 01:04:09,598 zoning issues 3102 01:04:09,598 --> 01:04:10,585 is to 3103 01:04:10,585 --> 01:04:11,599 use this 3104 01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:12,388 methodology and 3105 01:04:12,388 --> 01:04:13,120 measure this 3106 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:13,796 distance from 3107 01:04:13,796 --> 01:04:14,529 western border 3108 01:04:14,529 --> 01:04:15,531 plots. From this 3109 01:04:15,531 --> 01:04:16,580 main entrance 3110 01:04:16,580 --> 01:04:17,659 the road is located 3111 01:04:17,659 --> 01:04:18,718 main parking lot. 3112 01:04:18,718 --> 01:04:19,844 That's where this entrance is. 3113 01:04:19,844 --> 01:04:21,512 goes west. 3114 01:04:21,512 --> 01:04:22,109 So, we would 3115 01:04:22,109 --> 01:04:23,379 recommended, um, 3116 01:04:23,379 --> 01:04:24,762 less deviation. AND 3117 01:04:24,762 --> 01:04:25,721 we will present this 3118 01:04:25,721 --> 01:04:26,738 The Board of Appeal with 3119 01:04:26,738 --> 01:04:27,668 zoning issues 3120 01:04:27,668 --> 01:04:28,799 this Thursday. Uh, 3121 01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:29,950 but this is what I wanted 3122 01:04:29,950 --> 01:04:31,069 would provide the Commission with 3123 01:04:31,069 --> 01:04:31,878 planning as 3124 01:04:31,878 --> 01:04:33,220 prerequisites. Therefore, 3125 01:04:33,220 --> 01:04:34,279 Commission decision on 3126 01:04:34,279 --> 01:04:35,307 planning, whether 3127 01:04:35,307 --> 01:04:36,495 approve changes to 3128 01:04:36,495 --> 01:04:37,619 brick removal and 3129 01:04:37,619 --> 01:04:38,807 painting, or not 3130 01:04:38,807 --> 01:04:39,867 approve them, or 3131 01:04:39,867 --> 01:04:41,023 some modified 3132 01:04:41,023 --> 01:04:42,308 version, regardless of 3133 01:04:42,308 --> 01:04:43,239 area request 3134 01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:44,363 wall sign, 3135 01:04:44,363 --> 01:04:45,615 which will be considered 3136 01:04:45,615 --> 01:04:46,804 The Board of Appeal with 3137 01:04:46,804 --> 01:04:47,831 zoning issues 3138 01:04:47,831 --> 01:04:51,995 later this week. 3139 01:04:51,995 --> 01:04:52,617 So, our 3140 01:04:52,617 --> 01:04:53,928 the recommendation is 3141 01:04:53,928 --> 01:04:55,173 in that if changes 3142 01:04:55,173 --> 01:04:56,484 facade, paint colors 3143 01:04:56,484 --> 01:04:57,271 and reduction 3144 01:04:57,271 --> 01:04:58,549 coverage, respectively 3145 01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:59,401 to section 26.06 3146 01:04:59,401 --> 01:05:00,253 resolutions on 3147 01:05:00,253 --> 01:05:01,007 zoning, there is 3148 01:05:01,007 --> 01:05:01,990 acceptable for 3149 01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:03,301 Planning Commissions, 3150 01:05:03,301 --> 01:05:04,579 then we recommend 3151 01:05:04,579 --> 01:05:05,726 approve the application for 3152 01:05:05,726 --> 01:05:06,643 plot plan, with 3153 01:05:06,643 --> 01:05:07,627 taking into account actions 3154 01:05:07,627 --> 01:05:08,774 Board of Appeal with 3155 01:05:08,774 --> 01:05:09,822 zoning issues 3156 01:05:09,822 --> 01:05:10,707 regarding any 3157 01:05:10,707 --> 01:05:11,952 relevant requests 3158 01:05:11,952 --> 01:05:13,312 for deviation. AND 3159 01:05:13,312 --> 01:05:14,565 again, this is just 3160 01:05:14,565 --> 01:05:15,653 provided that the changes 3161 01:05:15,653 --> 01:05:16,938 facades are acceptable for 3162 01:05:16,938 --> 01:05:19,506 planning commissions. 3163 01:05:19,506 --> 01:05:20,749 Some changes are quite 3164 01:05:20,749 --> 01:05:21,894 significant, based on 3165 01:05:21,894 --> 01:05:22,909 only from the quantity 3166 01:05:22,909 --> 01:05:25,003 red, but we will pass on the decision 3167 01:05:25,003 --> 01:05:26,279 planning commissions 3168 01:05:26,279 --> 01:05:27,326 regarding whether they are 3169 01:05:27,326 --> 01:05:28,818 The scale is appropriate. 3170 01:05:28,818 --> 01:05:30,565 So, with that in mind, I will be glad. 3171 01:05:30,565 --> 01:05:31,584 to answer any 3172 01:05:31,584 --> 01:05:32,442 What questions? 3173 01:05:32,442 --> 01:05:34,733 Thanks, Patrick, and I assume you are 3174 01:05:34,733 --> 01:05:35,930 project sponsor, 3175 01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:38,123 Sir. Would you like to add something to that 3176 01:05:38,123 --> 01:05:39,136 What did Patrick say? 3177 01:05:39,136 --> 01:05:39,526 Yes. 3178 01:05:39,526 --> 01:05:40,459 please. 3179 01:05:40,459 --> 01:05:41,649 enter your name and 3180 01:05:41,649 --> 01:05:46,830 address for the protocol. 3181 01:05:46,830 --> 01:05:47,752 Good evening, 3182 01:05:47,752 --> 01:05:49,143 Gentlemen Commissioners. Me 3183 01:05:49,143 --> 01:05:50,071 My name is Omar. I 3184 01:05:50,071 --> 01:05:50,971 Dearborn resident- 3185 01:05:50,971 --> 01:05:51,977 Heights, but I work with 3186 01:05:51,977 --> 01:05:53,009 Kimley-Horn in Michigan 3187 01:05:53,009 --> 01:05:53,645 , these are engineers- 3188 01:05:53,645 --> 01:05:54,518 builders who 3189 01:05:54,518 --> 01:05:55,612 working here with Target. THERE ARE- 3190 01:05:55,612 --> 01:05:56,831 uh, I think the commissioner 3191 01:05:56,831 --> 01:05:57,799 Patrick said this 3192 01:05:57,799 --> 01:05:59,018 pretty good, and I'm here, 3193 01:05:59,018 --> 01:06:00,049 to answer 3194 01:06:00,049 --> 01:06:01,173 any questions, 3195 01:06:01,173 --> 01:06:02,148 if there are any. 3196 01:06:02,148 --> 01:06:06,160 Okay, thank you. Good. I 3197 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,193 I'll start with the commissioner. 3198 01:06:07,193 --> 01:06:08,259 Mallada today 3199 01:06:08,259 --> 01:06:09,876 in the evening, this time. 3200 01:06:09,876 --> 01:06:10,922 Do you have any? 3201 01:06:10,922 --> 01:06:12,544 question? No? 3202 01:06:12,544 --> 01:06:13,943 Commissioner Walworth? IN 3203 01:06:13,943 --> 01:06:14,893 I'm fine. 3204 01:06:14,893 --> 01:06:15,842 Good. IN 3205 01:06:15,842 --> 01:06:16,809 I don't have any. 3206 01:06:16,809 --> 01:06:17,408 questions. 3207 01:06:17,408 --> 01:06:18,895 Good. Commissioner Lee? 3208 01:06:18,895 --> 01:06:20,091 Commissioner Singh? AT, 3209 01:06:20,091 --> 01:06:22,752 Sorry. I thought you will say "no". Good. 3210 01:06:22,752 --> 01:06:23,798 Commissioner Singh? 3211 01:06:23,798 --> 01:06:25,546 Uh, just one thing. I see, 3212 01:06:25,546 --> 01:06:26,931 that he is driving up, that is 3213 01:06:26,931 --> 01:06:28,098 non-existent sign, 3214 01:06:28,098 --> 01:06:29,229 so this is what you, 3215 01:06:29,229 --> 01:06:30,549 Guys, add. It 3216 01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:31,846 some new service or 3217 01:06:31,846 --> 01:06:32,984 something like that, guys. 3218 01:06:32,984 --> 01:06:34,010 Yes, in modern Target 3219 01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:34,919 now there are mobile 3220 01:06:34,919 --> 01:06:35,681 points of issue 3221 01:06:35,681 --> 01:06:36,620 orders that we 3222 01:06:36,620 --> 01:06:37,646 now denote in 3223 01:06:37,646 --> 01:06:38,761 Cantonese sidewalks 3224 01:06:38,761 --> 01:06:39,934 stripes and signs, 3225 01:06:39,934 --> 01:06:41,107 but it's more of a way 3226 01:06:41,107 --> 01:06:41,986 to navigate in 3227 01:06:41,986 --> 01:06:43,130 road for people who 3228 01:06:43,130 --> 01:06:43,892 moving from 3229 01:06:43,892 --> 01:06:45,146 shared passage. THERE ARE- 3230 01:06:45,146 --> 01:06:46,218 Well, it's easy if you 3231 01:06:46,218 --> 01:06:47,121 will have to go 3232 01:06:47,121 --> 01:06:48,165 there to understand, 3233 01:06:48,165 --> 01:06:50,112 where is it located, we believe that for 3234 01:06:50,112 --> 01:06:51,071 better circulation 3235 01:06:51,071 --> 01:06:51,890 data is a signboard 3236 01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:52,910 from above. This is enough. 3237 01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:53,863 common phenomenon in 3238 01:06:53,863 --> 01:06:55,063 such supermarkets, 3239 01:06:55,063 --> 01:06:55,532 like this one. 3240 01:06:55,532 --> 01:06:56,962 Thank you. No questions asked, 3241 01:06:56,962 --> 01:06:58,020 Madam Chairwoman. 3242 01:06:58,020 --> 01:06:59,168 Good. Commissioner 3243 01:06:59,168 --> 01:06:59,842 Watkins? 3244 01:06:59,842 --> 01:07:01,340 Very quickly. Patrick, 3245 01:07:01,340 --> 01:07:02,613 Can you go? 3246 01:07:02,613 --> 01:07:03,886 to...I mean, 36- 3247 01:07:03,886 --> 01:07:05,059 its pages...Yes, it is 3248 01:07:05,059 --> 01:07:06,366 should be page 36 in 3249 01:07:06,366 --> 01:07:08,142 package. I think there 3250 01:07:08,142 --> 01:07:10,173 shown, er, yes, 36- 3251 01:07:10,173 --> 01:07:11,362 there. It is shown there 3252 01:07:11,362 --> 01:07:12,541 space for a gap 3253 01:07:12,541 --> 01:07:14,658 time. Um, oh. Uh, on 3254 01:07:14,658 --> 01:07:15,328 what term 3255 01:07:15,328 --> 01:07:16,029 planned 3256 01:07:16,029 --> 01:07:16,943 implement this 3257 01:07:16,943 --> 01:07:17,858 project? On which 3258 01:07:17,858 --> 01:07:18,515 the term they 3259 01:07:18,515 --> 01:07:19,651 will cover half 3260 01:07:19,651 --> 01:07:20,342 parking? 3261 01:07:20,342 --> 01:07:21,243 Yes, this project 3262 01:07:21,243 --> 01:07:22,210 actually too 3263 01:07:22,210 --> 01:07:22,886 corresponds 3264 01:07:22,886 --> 01:07:24,142 internal changes to 3265 01:07:24,142 --> 01:07:25,838 website. Hmm, project 3266 01:07:25,838 --> 01:07:27,336 the plant will last 3 3267 01:07:27,336 --> 01:07:29,055 months, will begin 3268 01:07:29,055 --> 01:07:30,698 in the spring of 2027. Therefore, 3269 01:07:30,698 --> 01:07:31,731 we don't have...We have 3270 01:07:31,731 --> 01:07:32,765 intention for it to last 3271 01:07:32,765 --> 01:07:33,771 maximum from May to 3272 01:07:33,771 --> 01:07:34,269 August. 3273 01:07:34,269 --> 01:07:35,327 Great, because I was going to 3274 01:07:35,327 --> 01:07:36,332 tell you what if 3275 01:07:36,332 --> 01:07:37,418 you were going to do it now 3276 01:07:37,418 --> 01:07:38,504 to explain, this intermediate 3277 01:07:38,504 --> 01:07:39,562 the area is huge, and this 3278 01:07:39,562 --> 01:07:40,621 would be a nightmare during 3279 01:07:40,621 --> 01:07:41,807 holidays. So 3280 01:07:41,807 --> 01:07:43,048 Yes. This is our maximum, 3281 01:07:43,048 --> 01:07:43,996 which we considered 3282 01:07:43,996 --> 01:07:44,813 fair 3283 01:07:44,813 --> 01:07:45,630 show, but 3284 01:07:45,630 --> 01:07:46,806 because internal 3285 01:07:46,806 --> 01:07:48,113 improvements will be 3286 01:07:48,113 --> 01:07:49,257 much faster, 3287 01:07:49,257 --> 01:07:50,237 than external, this 3288 01:07:50,237 --> 01:07:51,152 intermediate area 3289 01:07:51,152 --> 01:07:51,838 will decrease 3290 01:07:51,838 --> 01:07:52,736 pro rata. 3291 01:07:52,736 --> 01:07:54,023 Of course. Thank you, 3292 01:07:54,023 --> 01:07:55,009 Madam President. 3293 01:07:55,009 --> 01:07:55,791 Absolutely. 3294 01:07:55,791 --> 01:07:56,917 Yes, uh, does anyone have one? 3295 01:07:56,917 --> 01:07:57,945 any thoughts on 3296 01:07:57,945 --> 01:07:58,972 red? No one 3297 01:07:58,972 --> 01:07:59,998 didn't say anything about 3298 01:07:59,998 --> 01:08:00,889 red color on 3299 01:08:00,889 --> 01:08:01,340 facade. 3300 01:08:01,340 --> 01:08:02,497 I like it. 3301 01:08:02,497 --> 01:08:03,821 I feel that 3302 01:08:03,821 --> 01:08:04,968 we will open for 3303 01:08:04,968 --> 01:08:06,210 you, Madam Chair. 3304 01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:07,476 This is their standard 3305 01:08:07,476 --> 01:08:08,745 branding now, right? 3306 01:08:08,745 --> 01:08:10,185 Tell me, Madam Chair. 3307 01:08:10,185 --> 01:08:11,061 You all speak 3308 01:08:11,061 --> 01:08:12,373 simultaneously. Sorry. 3309 01:08:12,373 --> 01:08:14,104 I just wanted to say that it is theirs 3310 01:08:14,104 --> 01:08:14,813 standard. It 3311 01:08:14,813 --> 01:08:15,443 standard 3312 01:08:15,443 --> 01:08:16,713 branding now, because 3313 01:08:16,713 --> 01:08:17,651 this does not match 3314 01:08:17,651 --> 01:08:18,651 our resolutions, 3315 01:08:18,651 --> 01:08:20,680 so I just wanted to find out if there is 3316 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,468 someone strong 3317 01:08:21,468 --> 01:08:22,346 feelings about this 3318 01:08:22,346 --> 01:08:23,735 reason. I suppose 3319 01:08:23,735 --> 01:08:25,078 that you don't have, because no one 3320 01:08:25,078 --> 01:08:26,660 I didn't mention that. 3321 01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:29,720 So, I mean, I don't mind. I could 3322 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:30,817 to claim that in 3323 01:08:30,817 --> 01:08:31,786 some parts 3324 01:08:31,786 --> 01:08:32,851 countries are red 3325 01:08:32,851 --> 01:08:34,045 soil, so it can 3326 01:08:34,045 --> 01:08:35,014 to be earthy 3327 01:08:35,014 --> 01:08:37,456 shade. Hmm, but this 3328 01:08:37,456 --> 01:08:38,773 exaggeration, because in 3329 01:08:38,773 --> 01:08:40,479 We don't have it. Hmm, 3330 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:41,158 but 3331 01:08:41,158 --> 01:08:42,516 ours is dirty gray. 3332 01:08:42,516 --> 01:08:43,836 exactly. 3333 01:08:43,836 --> 01:08:45,348 Yes. Uh, no, I have 3334 01:08:45,348 --> 01:08:48,091 there are no problems with this. 3335 01:08:48,091 --> 01:08:49,194 One short one. 3336 01:08:49,194 --> 01:08:49,937 Of course. 3337 01:08:49,937 --> 01:08:52,636 Very good. Uh, me 3338 01:08:52,636 --> 01:08:53,781 I like yours. 3339 01:08:53,781 --> 01:08:54,963 explanation, uh, because, 3340 01:08:54,963 --> 01:08:56,359 you know, I think that's 3341 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:57,361 far from, uh, 3342 01:08:57,361 --> 01:08:58,614 Sorry, Ford Road, 3343 01:08:58,614 --> 01:08:59,724 but in reality it is 3344 01:08:59,724 --> 01:09:01,013 actually drawn 3345 01:09:01,013 --> 01:09:02,373 to...It is not addressed 3346 01:09:02,373 --> 01:09:03,734 to the front road, 3347 01:09:03,734 --> 01:09:05,130 so the standard is not at all 3348 01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:07,012 another. I think you know. 3349 01:09:07,012 --> 01:09:09,225 that in my head we are not trying to have 3350 01:09:09,225 --> 01:09:10,392 dealing with...So, I think 3351 01:09:10,392 --> 01:09:11,558 where you are going is 3352 01:09:11,558 --> 01:09:12,725 exactly where I am going with you 3353 01:09:12,725 --> 01:09:14,035 I agree. So, that's all, 3354 01:09:14,035 --> 01:09:15,208 What should I say? 3355 01:09:15,208 --> 01:09:15,913 Thank you. 3356 01:09:15,913 --> 01:09:17,064 Well, by the way, about that, 3357 01:09:17,064 --> 01:09:18,041 Patrick, it would be 3358 01:09:18,041 --> 01:09:18,914 question if 3359 01:09:18,914 --> 01:09:20,205 measure the distance from 3360 01:09:20,205 --> 01:09:21,566 that side, uh, lateral 3361 01:09:21,566 --> 01:09:22,927 the road that runs along 3362 01:09:22,927 --> 01:09:24,044 access road, 3363 01:09:24,044 --> 01:09:25,161 common roads 3364 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:26,208 access, is it 3365 01:09:26,208 --> 01:09:27,185 is located on 3366 01:09:27,185 --> 01:09:32,566 distance of 450 feet? 3367 01:09:32,566 --> 01:09:34,694 Uh, that would be less than 3368 01:09:34,694 --> 01:09:39,676 450 feet. Uh-huh. So, I can...Uh. 3369 01:09:39,676 --> 01:09:40,631 Just curious, 3370 01:09:40,631 --> 01:09:41,976 for example, what would be 3371 01:09:41,976 --> 01:09:45,231 ...Will they allow 3372 01:09:45,231 --> 01:09:46,479 to set signs 3373 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,465 from this driveway 3374 01:09:47,465 --> 01:09:49,935 roads? 3375 01:09:49,935 --> 01:09:51,850 Uh, signs from the driveway 3376 01:09:51,850 --> 01:09:53,519 roads, uh, this, uh, 3377 01:09:53,519 --> 01:09:55,483 the distance is 368 3378 01:09:55,483 --> 01:09:58,354 feet. Oh. And, uh, so, 3379 01:09:58,354 --> 01:09:59,539 from the shortest 3380 01:09:59,539 --> 01:10:00,843 driveway area 3381 01:10:00,843 --> 01:10:02,305 roads to the front 3382 01:10:02,305 --> 01:10:03,687 parts of the building are 3383 01:10:03,687 --> 01:10:07,038 about 368 feet. AND 3384 01:10:07,038 --> 01:10:08,540 The resolution allows, e 3385 01:10:08,540 --> 01:10:09,773 -e, 2/3 square 3386 01:10:09,773 --> 01:10:11,005 ft. for every ft 3387 01:10:11,005 --> 01:10:15,772 retreat distance. AND, 3388 01:10:15,772 --> 01:10:17,355 uh, that sets the uh 3389 01:10:17,355 --> 01:10:18,817 , which establishes, uh, 3390 01:10:18,817 --> 01:10:19,872 which establishes 3391 01:10:19,872 --> 01:10:21,090 allowable area 3392 01:10:21,090 --> 01:10:26,014 the walls are even smaller. But 3393 01:10:26,014 --> 01:10:27,282 for corner apartments 3394 01:10:27,282 --> 01:10:28,653 and corner houses with 3395 01:10:28,653 --> 01:10:29,886 other people's premises 3396 01:10:29,886 --> 01:10:31,188 tenants, if they 3397 01:10:31,188 --> 01:10:32,148 located on 3398 01:10:32,148 --> 01:10:33,415 corner area or 3399 01:10:33,415 --> 01:10:34,752 adjacent to the road 3400 01:10:34,752 --> 01:10:35,643 and general 3401 01:10:35,643 --> 01:10:36,876 entrance, resolution 3402 01:10:36,876 --> 01:10:38,110 allows 50% bonus for 3403 01:10:38,110 --> 01:10:42,451 wall area. That is, according to 3404 01:10:42,451 --> 01:10:44,894 essentially, it's 2/3 3405 01:10:44,894 --> 01:10:46,221 per square foot 3406 01:10:46,221 --> 01:10:47,549 every 1 foot of distance 3407 01:10:47,549 --> 01:10:48,661 retreat in this 3408 01:10:48,661 --> 01:10:50,010 range. And then, 3409 01:10:50,010 --> 01:10:51,449 if there is a 50% bonus for 3410 01:10:51,449 --> 01:10:52,622 the area of ​​the angle, then this 3411 01:10:52,622 --> 01:10:53,795 brings him to 3412 01:10:53,795 --> 01:10:55,082 actual distances 3413 01:10:55,082 --> 01:10:56,029 indentation, which 3414 01:10:56,029 --> 01:10:56,899 is 368 3415 01:10:56,899 --> 01:10:58,211 square feet. 3416 01:10:58,211 --> 01:10:59,616 So, 368 square 3417 01:10:59,616 --> 01:11:01,183 feet less than they are 3418 01:11:01,183 --> 01:11:02,147 they ask, but, 3419 01:11:02,147 --> 01:11:03,633 will probably allow 3420 01:11:03,633 --> 01:11:05,906 to highlight it for them. I think that many of 3421 01:11:05,906 --> 01:11:06,813 their increases 3422 01:11:06,813 --> 01:11:07,962 now, they just have 3423 01:11:07,962 --> 01:11:09,051 sign, main sign- 3424 01:11:09,051 --> 01:11:10,260 this is a Target apple, and they 3425 01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:11,288 want to place 3426 01:11:11,288 --> 01:11:12,286 there are the words Target, which 3427 01:11:12,286 --> 01:11:13,314 take up a lot 3428 01:11:13,314 --> 01:11:14,514 more space. 3429 01:11:14,514 --> 01:11:17,134 Of course. Good. 3430 01:11:17,134 --> 01:11:18,441 Through the chair, if 3431 01:11:18,441 --> 01:11:20,100 one more point. 3432 01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:21,774 Thank you. So, quickly 3433 01:11:21,774 --> 01:11:23,369 two Targets in Canton, yes 3434 01:11:23,369 --> 01:11:24,709 ? Uh, this one might be a little 3435 01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:25,972 to differ in that, 3436 01:11:25,972 --> 01:11:27,040 I think it might be 3437 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,174 tenant in another 3438 01:11:28,174 --> 01:11:29,437 residential complex, 3439 01:11:29,437 --> 01:11:30,279 so are there any 3440 01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:31,153 expectation that 3441 01:11:31,153 --> 01:11:32,352 branding on the site 3442 01:11:32,352 --> 01:11:33,550 Michigan Avenue too 3443 01:11:33,550 --> 01:11:34,719 should be changed? 3444 01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:35,817 At least I'm fine. 3445 01:11:35,817 --> 01:11:37,808 I don't plan to, with this I can talk. 3446 01:11:37,808 --> 01:11:39,608 Thank you. 3447 01:11:39,608 --> 01:11:40,762 I also think that regarding 3448 01:11:40,762 --> 01:11:41,571 color like him 3449 01:11:41,571 --> 01:11:42,610 indicated in the document, 3450 01:11:42,610 --> 01:11:43,390 prevailing 3451 01:11:43,390 --> 01:11:44,343 in Ford colors 3452 01:11:44,343 --> 01:11:45,411 The roads will be earth, and 3453 01:11:45,411 --> 01:11:46,422 red will be less 3454 01:11:46,422 --> 01:11:47,173 noticeable, and this 3455 01:11:47,173 --> 01:11:48,212 corresponds to theirs 3456 01:11:48,212 --> 01:11:48,688 brand. 3457 01:11:48,688 --> 01:11:49,920 There is a little on Ford Road 3458 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,220 red, I give up 3459 01:11:51,220 --> 01:11:51,587 , but 3460 01:11:51,587 --> 01:11:52,834 Yes. Not that it doesn't 3461 01:11:52,834 --> 01:11:55,912 cry. 3462 01:11:55,912 --> 01:11:57,524 Well, we have that too. 3463 01:11:57,524 --> 01:11:58,847 This is true. We have 3464 01:11:58,847 --> 01:11:59,878 big red 3465 01:11:59,878 --> 01:12:01,239 furniture store. 3466 01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:02,865 That's a good point. 3467 01:12:02,865 --> 01:12:03,622 Thank you. 3468 01:12:03,622 --> 01:12:04,711 And then a little closer 3469 01:12:04,711 --> 01:12:05,657 before that, although he 3470 01:12:05,657 --> 01:12:06,747 smaller in scale, 3471 01:12:06,747 --> 01:12:07,808 we didn't include this in 3472 01:12:07,808 --> 01:12:08,496 our report 3473 01:12:08,496 --> 01:12:09,615 staff, and now it 3474 01:12:09,615 --> 01:12:10,446 dental 3475 01:12:10,446 --> 01:12:11,485 building. So, this one 3476 01:12:11,485 --> 01:12:12,681 red is now blue, 3477 01:12:12,681 --> 01:12:13,877 but it was a department 3478 01:12:13,877 --> 01:12:14,625 urgent 3479 01:12:14,625 --> 01:12:15,708 help. First 3480 01:12:15,708 --> 01:12:16,797 it was built 3481 01:12:16,797 --> 01:12:17,522 as a department 3482 01:12:17,522 --> 01:12:18,220 urgent 3483 01:12:18,220 --> 01:12:19,057 some help 3484 01:12:19,057 --> 01:12:20,118 years ago, and he 3485 01:12:20,118 --> 01:12:21,179 there were red panels, 3486 01:12:21,179 --> 01:12:22,183 that came out on Ford- 3487 01:12:22,183 --> 01:12:24,962 road. It is smaller than 3488 01:12:24,962 --> 01:12:26,231 proposed by the applicant, but 3489 01:12:26,231 --> 01:12:27,246 the scale is much 3490 01:12:27,246 --> 01:12:28,451 larger in terms of 3491 01:12:28,451 --> 01:12:29,624 percent of the building and 3492 01:12:29,624 --> 01:12:30,797 vicinity of Ford- 3493 01:12:30,797 --> 01:12:31,807 road. 3494 01:12:31,807 --> 01:12:32,622 Of course. 3495 01:12:32,622 --> 01:12:34,318 Uh, now it's blue. It 3496 01:12:34,318 --> 01:12:35,270 dental 3497 01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:36,506 center, but he...Yes... 3498 01:12:36,506 --> 01:12:37,121 used to be 3499 01:12:37,121 --> 01:12:38,044 approved as 3500 01:12:38,044 --> 01:12:38,764 red. 3501 01:12:38,764 --> 01:12:40,562 Thank you. Thank you. Someone 3502 01:12:40,562 --> 01:12:41,268 wants to contribute 3503 01:12:41,268 --> 01:12:42,042 offer? 3504 01:12:42,042 --> 01:12:43,211 I will do it, ma'am. 3505 01:12:43,211 --> 01:12:46,060 presiding I suggest 3506 01:12:46,060 --> 01:12:48,088 approve the application for 3507 01:12:48,088 --> 01:12:49,753 room layout 3508 01:12:49,753 --> 01:12:51,729 proposed changes 3509 01:12:51,729 --> 01:12:53,446 facade at the address 3510 01:12:53,446 --> 01:12:55,110 Ford Road, 43 670, at 3511 01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:56,463 plot number 3512 01:12:56,463 --> 01:12:57,503 040-99-0006-701, with 3513 01:12:57,503 --> 01:12:58,699 taking into account 3514 01:12:58,699 --> 01:13:02,470 zoning. Haha. 3515 01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:03,425 Appeals. 3516 01:13:03,425 --> 01:13:04,651 Appeal proceedings 3517 01:13:04,651 --> 01:13:05,232 any 3518 01:13:05,232 --> 01:13:06,458 applicable queries 3519 01:13:06,458 --> 01:13:08,062 for deviation. My 3520 01:13:08,062 --> 01:13:08,873 the mouth stopped 3521 01:13:08,873 --> 01:13:09,616 work. 3522 01:13:09,616 --> 01:13:10,579 Good. We have 3523 01:13:10,579 --> 01:13:11,693 Commissioner's proposal 3524 01:13:11,693 --> 01:13:12,338 Watkins and 3525 01:13:12,338 --> 01:13:13,171 support from 3526 01:13:13,171 --> 01:13:13,962 Support. 3527 01:13:13,962 --> 01:13:14,470 Hmm. 3528 01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:15,604 He has already supported 3529 01:13:15,604 --> 01:13:16,432 so thank you. We 3530 01:13:16,432 --> 01:13:17,295 received a backup 3531 01:13:17,295 --> 01:13:17,956 support from 3532 01:13:17,956 --> 01:13:18,869 Commissioner Mallet. 3533 01:13:18,869 --> 01:13:19,505 Perfectly. 3534 01:13:19,505 --> 01:13:20,480 Um, there are some more 3535 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,266 discussion? Good. 3536 01:13:22,266 --> 01:13:23,165 Commissioner Lee, is it not 3537 01:13:23,165 --> 01:13:24,201 could you announce 3538 01:13:24,201 --> 01:13:24,928 voting? 3539 01:13:24,928 --> 01:13:26,573 Yes. Commissioner Lee, yes. 3540 01:13:26,573 --> 01:13:27,740 Commissioner Mallet. 3541 01:13:27,740 --> 01:13:28,198 Yes. 3542 01:13:28,198 --> 01:13:29,387 Commissioner Singh. 3543 01:13:29,387 --> 01:13:30,034 Yes. 3544 01:13:30,034 --> 01:13:30,715 AT. 3545 01:13:30,715 --> 01:13:31,889 Commissioner Walter. 3546 01:13:31,889 --> 01:13:32,276 Yes. 3547 01:13:32,276 --> 01:13:33,542 Commissioner Watkins. 3548 01:13:33,542 --> 01:13:33,937 Yes. 3549 01:13:33,937 --> 01:13:35,075 Commissioner Webber. 3550 01:13:35,075 --> 01:13:35,474 Yes. 3551 01:13:35,474 --> 01:13:36,510 Head Zuber. 3552 01:13:36,510 --> 01:13:37,697 Yes. Proposal 3553 01:13:37,697 --> 01:13:39,157 accepted. I am very 3554 01:13:39,157 --> 01:13:40,418 I hope that some 3555 01:13:40,418 --> 01:13:41,679 internal updates 3556 01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:42,508 will include 3557 01:13:42,508 --> 01:13:43,338 non-blocking 3558 01:13:43,338 --> 01:13:45,162 fire exits. 3559 01:13:45,162 --> 01:13:46,347 I can only speak 3560 01:13:46,347 --> 01:13:47,096 with external 3561 01:13:47,096 --> 01:13:48,219 staff, but ladies 3562 01:13:48,219 --> 01:13:49,579 word. Thank you very much, 3563 01:13:49,579 --> 01:13:50,247 guys. 3564 01:13:50,247 --> 01:13:51,398 Thank you. This is me. 3565 01:13:51,398 --> 01:13:52,487 drives you crazy. 3566 01:13:52,487 --> 01:13:53,695 I guess I need 3567 01:13:53,695 --> 01:13:54,823 call the police. 3568 01:13:54,823 --> 01:13:56,685 Oh, oh. Fire trucks 3569 01:13:56,685 --> 01:13:57,794 blocked. IN 3570 01:13:57,794 --> 01:13:58,914 they have, um, they have something 3571 01:13:58,914 --> 01:14:00,034 like a small one 3572 01:14:00,034 --> 01:14:00,838 places where you can 3573 01:14:00,838 --> 01:14:01,986 get vaccinated at CVS, 3574 01:14:01,986 --> 01:14:03,020 and there is such a small one 3575 01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:04,054 a corridor leading 3576 01:14:04,054 --> 01:14:04,944 back, you know, this 3577 01:14:04,944 --> 01:14:06,064 a small corridor 3578 01:14:06,064 --> 01:14:07,012 , which has at the end 3579 01:14:07,012 --> 01:14:07,989 marked firemen 3580 01:14:07,989 --> 01:14:08,917 door. If there 3581 01:14:08,917 --> 01:14:09,942 someday it will happen 3582 01:14:09,942 --> 01:14:11,191 emergency situation 3583 01:14:11,191 --> 01:14:12,651 , phew. This will be bad. 3584 01:14:12,651 --> 01:14:15,301 news. Sorry, I don't 3585 01:14:15,301 --> 01:14:16,508 I can turn it off. 3586 01:14:16,508 --> 01:14:18,282 I know. 3587 01:14:18,282 --> 01:14:20,488 Well, as a lawyer, I would say that this 3588 01:14:20,488 --> 01:14:21,375 also potential 3589 01:14:21,375 --> 01:14:21,791 question 3590 01:14:21,791 --> 01:14:22,807 responsibility. 3591 01:14:22,807 --> 01:14:25,432 Yes, I know, we think that they, I think they would like to 3592 01:14:25,432 --> 01:14:26,128 clean it. 3593 01:14:26,128 --> 01:14:27,431 Yes. Yes, don't block 3594 01:14:27,431 --> 01:14:28,602 fire exits, be 3595 01:14:28,602 --> 01:14:29,853 affection. Okay, very good. 3596 01:14:29,853 --> 01:14:31,572 Okay, thank you. 3597 01:14:31,572 --> 01:14:32,778 So, we have another one 3598 01:14:32,778 --> 01:14:33,854 question is okay 3599 01:14:33,854 --> 01:14:35,215 daytime. We have old ones 3600 01:14:35,215 --> 01:14:36,114 cases, as well as 3601 01:14:36,114 --> 01:14:37,239 amendment to the text 3602 01:14:37,239 --> 01:14:38,074 resolutions on 3603 01:14:38,074 --> 01:14:40,323 zoning where we are talking about fences, 3604 01:14:40,323 --> 01:14:41,287 wall and wall in 3605 01:14:41,287 --> 01:14:42,186 singulars and limits, 3606 01:14:42,186 --> 01:14:43,279 fences in the plural, 3607 01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:44,564 wall in the singular, border in the 3608 01:14:44,564 --> 01:14:45,156 plural. 3609 01:14:45,156 --> 01:14:46,694 I have been on the committee for 6 years. 3610 01:14:46,694 --> 01:14:47,948 I think we 3611 01:14:47,948 --> 01:14:49,035 talked about fences 3612 01:14:49,035 --> 01:14:49,943 all six years. 3613 01:14:49,943 --> 01:14:52,733 I think that's probably true. 3614 01:14:52,733 --> 01:14:54,081 Yes. So, uh, Patrick 3615 01:14:54,081 --> 01:14:54,945 , tell us 3616 01:14:54,945 --> 01:14:55,561 more about 3617 01:14:55,561 --> 01:14:56,270 appointment 3618 01:14:56,270 --> 01:14:57,638 public hearings. THERE ARE- 3619 01:14:57,638 --> 01:14:57,957 there are, 3620 01:14:57,957 --> 01:14:59,749 Of course, thank you. Uh, 3621 01:14:59,749 --> 01:15:01,131 we, uh, discussed 3622 01:15:01,131 --> 01:15:02,368 proposed, uh 3623 01:15:02,368 --> 01:15:03,169 amendment to 3624 01:15:03,169 --> 01:15:04,333 decrees on, er, 3625 01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:05,751 previous meeting, 3626 01:15:05,751 --> 01:15:06,988 and then we talked 3627 01:15:06,988 --> 01:15:08,116 about, uh, changes to 3628 01:15:08,116 --> 01:15:09,498 examination requirements, 3629 01:15:09,498 --> 01:15:10,881 and also, uh, walls and 3630 01:15:10,881 --> 01:15:12,299 fences at the entrances to 3631 01:15:12,299 --> 01:15:14,319 residential buildings. Uh, 3632 01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:15,332 since we 3633 01:15:15,332 --> 01:15:16,417 last time, uh, them 3634 01:15:16,417 --> 01:15:17,865 discussed, there was no 3635 01:15:17,865 --> 01:15:19,258 too many changes. Uh, me 3636 01:15:19,258 --> 01:15:20,635 I think it was probably 3637 01:15:20,635 --> 01:15:22,691 , a couple of months ago. THERE ARE- 3638 01:15:22,691 --> 01:15:24,070 Well, one of the points, 3639 01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:25,564 which we added, was, uh- 3640 01:15:25,564 --> 01:15:26,559 e, fences for 3641 01:15:26,559 --> 01:15:28,881 sports fences. AND 3642 01:15:28,881 --> 01:15:30,234 now the resolution on 3643 01:15:30,234 --> 01:15:31,477 zoning restricts 3644 01:15:31,477 --> 01:15:32,756 fence height up to 6 3645 01:15:32,756 --> 01:15:33,903 feet. So, if in 3646 01:15:33,903 --> 01:15:34,418 is there anyone 3647 01:15:34,418 --> 01:15:35,288 basketball 3648 01:15:35,288 --> 01:15:37,608 tennis court or playground 3649 01:15:37,608 --> 01:15:38,413 for pickleball, 3650 01:15:38,413 --> 01:15:39,573 regardless of whether 3651 01:15:39,573 --> 01:15:40,379 is it a condominium, or 3652 01:15:40,379 --> 01:15:41,442 apartment building 3653 01:15:41,442 --> 01:15:42,473 complex, then its 3654 01:15:42,473 --> 01:15:43,665 height limited to 6 3655 01:15:43,665 --> 01:15:44,954 feet, because none 3656 01:15:44,954 --> 01:15:45,888 the fence cannot 3657 01:15:45,888 --> 01:15:47,213 exceed 6 feet. 3658 01:15:47,213 --> 01:15:48,229 I think there are some 3659 01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:48,887 exceptions for 3660 01:15:48,887 --> 01:15:50,083 industry, but this 3661 01:15:50,083 --> 01:15:50,831 not very successful 3662 01:15:50,831 --> 01:15:54,250 comparison. So, we 3663 01:15:54,250 --> 01:15:55,110 recommended 3664 01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:56,130 include a separate 3665 01:15:56,130 --> 01:15:57,309 section to the resolution 3666 01:15:57,309 --> 01:15:58,202 about signs, on 3667 01:15:58,202 --> 01:15:59,317 addition to those about 3668 01:15:59,317 --> 01:16:00,401 which we spoke on 3669 01:16:00,401 --> 01:16:01,516 one of the previous ones 3670 01:16:01,516 --> 01:16:02,218 meetings with 3671 01:16:02,218 --> 01:16:03,238 survey regarding 3672 01:16:03,238 --> 01:16:04,194 requirements and walls and 3673 01:16:04,194 --> 01:16:05,341 fences near entrances 3674 01:16:05,341 --> 01:16:06,552 to residential buildings, 3675 01:16:06,552 --> 01:16:07,381 to allow 3676 01:16:07,381 --> 01:16:08,624 installation of fences, 3677 01:16:08,624 --> 01:16:09,325 surrounding 3678 01:16:09,325 --> 01:16:10,058 recreational 3679 01:16:10,058 --> 01:16:11,301 platforms, heights 3680 01:16:11,301 --> 01:16:13,277 up to 10 feet, provided that the fence is not 3681 01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:14,457 is within 3682 01:16:14,457 --> 01:16:15,604 front yard, and 3683 01:16:15,604 --> 01:16:16,337 recreational 3684 01:16:16,337 --> 01:16:17,006 playgrounds 3685 01:16:17,006 --> 01:16:17,899 located on 3686 01:16:17,899 --> 01:16:18,632 public 3687 01:16:18,632 --> 01:16:19,907 property or within 3688 01:16:19,907 --> 01:16:21,118 total area 3689 01:16:21,118 --> 01:16:25,482 residential development. Ahem 3690 01:16:25,482 --> 01:16:26,498 , for the purposes of this 3691 01:16:26,498 --> 01:16:27,219 subdivision, 3692 01:16:27,219 --> 01:16:28,169 qualified 3693 01:16:28,169 --> 01:16:29,349 residential development 3694 01:16:29,349 --> 01:16:30,594 there will be a residential area, 3695 01:16:30,594 --> 01:16:31,381 condominium, 3696 01:16:31,381 --> 01:16:32,495 residential complex 3697 01:16:32,495 --> 01:16:33,511 or a park of artificial 3698 01:16:33,511 --> 01:16:34,777 houses. So, this is not 3699 01:16:34,777 --> 01:16:35,751 there might be something on 3700 01:16:35,751 --> 01:16:36,725 someone's back 3701 01:16:36,725 --> 01:16:37,621 yard. If this 3702 01:16:37,621 --> 01:16:38,807 common common 3703 01:16:38,807 --> 01:16:39,334 element, 3704 01:16:39,334 --> 01:16:40,651 bona fide joint 3705 01:16:40,651 --> 01:16:41,903 room, then, um, 3706 01:16:41,903 --> 01:16:43,023 they can have 10- 3707 01:16:43,023 --> 01:16:44,668 foot fence. We have 3708 01:16:44,668 --> 01:16:46,039 there were some condominiums that 3709 01:16:46,039 --> 01:16:47,411 wanted to set 10- 3710 01:16:47,411 --> 01:16:48,708 foot fences for 3711 01:16:48,708 --> 01:16:50,153 pickleball, basketball 3712 01:16:50,153 --> 01:16:51,781 and tennis. So, this is 3713 01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:53,077 would take into account some of the 3714 01:16:53,077 --> 01:16:54,481 those demands that we heard 3715 01:16:54,481 --> 01:16:56,712 . Hmm, so I need more 3716 01:16:56,712 --> 01:16:58,018 nothing to add, and, um, 3717 01:16:58,018 --> 01:17:00,700 if there are any changes, we can add them to 3718 01:17:00,700 --> 01:17:02,487 public hearings. 3719 01:17:02,487 --> 01:17:04,770 Good. Thank you. Someone 3720 01:17:04,770 --> 01:17:10,562 has anything to say? 3721 01:17:10,562 --> 01:17:11,549 Is this just a coincidence? 3722 01:17:11,549 --> 01:17:12,784 circumstances that today 3723 01:17:12,784 --> 01:17:13,895 are remembered in the evening 3724 01:17:13,895 --> 01:17:14,790 court fences, 3725 01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:15,438 considering 3726 01:17:15,438 --> 01:17:16,086 public 3727 01:17:16,086 --> 01:17:17,197 the discussion we have 3728 01:17:17,197 --> 01:17:18,839 had before? 3729 01:17:18,839 --> 01:17:20,473 Um, I don't know if this is, uh- 3730 01:17:20,473 --> 01:17:21,850 uh, I don't know if that's it 3731 01:17:21,850 --> 01:17:24,336 coincidence or not. 3732 01:17:24,336 --> 01:17:25,553 Um, just because 3733 01:17:25,553 --> 01:17:26,949 The fence did not give in. 3734 01:17:26,949 --> 01:17:28,485 problem. It was... 3735 01:17:28,485 --> 01:17:29,495 Yes, that was... 3736 01:17:29,495 --> 01:17:30,752 I know. I...I don't 3737 01:17:30,752 --> 01:17:31,992 I am going to contact 3738 01:17:31,992 --> 01:17:32,550 to her... 3739 01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:33,511 Yes, I think it's...me. 3740 01:17:33,511 --> 01:17:34,068 I think that's it. 3741 01:17:34,068 --> 01:17:35,080 coincidence, but, um, 3742 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,016 on the topic of noise, when 3743 01:17:36,016 --> 01:17:36,953 we are considering our 3744 01:17:36,953 --> 01:17:37,940 rules regarding centers 3745 01:17:37,940 --> 01:17:39,736 data processing, we consider the points in 3746 01:17:39,736 --> 01:17:40,546 our resolution 3747 01:17:40,546 --> 01:17:41,331 regarding noise that is not 3748 01:17:41,331 --> 01:17:42,292 related to centers 3749 01:17:42,292 --> 01:17:43,305 data processing from point 3750 01:17:43,305 --> 01:17:44,165 in terms of provision 3751 01:17:44,165 --> 01:17:45,324 compliance. I don't know, 3752 01:17:45,324 --> 01:17:46,439 To what extent will this affect 3753 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:47,260 for recreational 3754 01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:49,548 objects, but, um, this is what are we working on at the same time 3755 01:17:49,548 --> 01:17:50,633 we work with centers 3756 01:17:50,633 --> 01:17:51,689 data processing, if 3757 01:17:51,689 --> 01:17:52,640 This is worth something. 3758 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,416 Yes, we should. 3759 01:17:53,416 --> 01:17:54,644 to offer some 3760 01:17:54,644 --> 01:17:58,450 acoustic fences. 3761 01:17:58,450 --> 01:17:59,815 Good. But that's enough. 3762 01:17:59,815 --> 01:18:01,623 difficult. Let's do it. 3763 01:18:01,623 --> 01:18:02,493 Let's make a contribution 3764 01:18:02,493 --> 01:18:03,203 proposal. 3765 01:18:03,203 --> 01:18:04,170 Of course, I will contribute. 3766 01:18:04,170 --> 01:18:05,731 proposal. I propose to appoint 3767 01:18:05,731 --> 01:18:06,415 public hearings 3768 01:18:06,415 --> 01:18:07,180 regarding the proposed 3769 01:18:07,180 --> 01:18:07,924 amendments to the section 3770 01:18:07,924 --> 01:18:08,528 2.2 resolutions on 3771 01:18:08,528 --> 01:18:09,132 zoning like this 3772 01:18:09,132 --> 01:18:09,655 provided for in 3773 01:18:09,655 --> 01:18:10,440 attached to the resolution, 3774 01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:11,673 proposed for 3775 01:18:11,673 --> 01:18:12,632 fences, walls and 3776 01:18:12,632 --> 01:18:13,965 curbs. Second... 3777 01:18:13,965 --> 01:18:14,694 Okay, we have 3778 01:18:14,694 --> 01:18:15,803 Commissioner's proposal 3779 01:18:15,803 --> 01:18:16,445 Watkins and 3780 01:18:16,445 --> 01:18:17,495 Commissioner's support 3781 01:18:17,495 --> 01:18:18,530 Webber. Any 3782 01:18:18,530 --> 01:18:19,742 further discussion 3783 01:18:19,742 --> 01:18:21,208 ? Good. Commissioner Lee, is it 3784 01:18:21,208 --> 01:18:21,818 could you not 3785 01:18:21,818 --> 01:18:22,301 to announce 3786 01:18:22,301 --> 01:18:23,139 vote, be 3787 01:18:23,139 --> 01:18:23,519 affection? 3788 01:18:23,519 --> 01:18:25,354 Yes. Commissioner Lee, yes. 3789 01:18:25,354 --> 01:18:26,517 Commissioner Mallett. 3790 01:18:26,517 --> 01:18:26,919 Yes. 3791 01:18:26,919 --> 01:18:28,102 Commissioner Singh. 3792 01:18:28,102 --> 01:18:28,504 Yes. 3793 01:18:28,504 --> 01:18:29,795 Commissioner Waters. 3794 01:18:29,795 --> 01:18:30,185 Yes. 3795 01:18:30,185 --> 01:18:31,485 Commissioner Watkins. 3796 01:18:31,485 --> 01:18:31,884 Yes. 3797 01:18:31,884 --> 01:18:33,049 Commissioner Webber. 3798 01:18:33,049 --> 01:18:33,452 Yes. 3799 01:18:33,452 --> 01:18:34,539 Head Zuber. 3800 01:18:34,539 --> 01:18:35,693 Yes. Petition 3801 01:18:35,693 --> 01:18:39,363 accepted. Good. Or 3802 01:18:39,363 --> 01:18:40,381 were there any others 3803 01:18:40,381 --> 01:18:41,735 conversations? 3804 01:18:41,735 --> 01:18:42,535 I just want 3805 01:18:42,535 --> 01:18:43,207 continue 3806 01:18:43,207 --> 01:18:44,295 discussion of this 3807 01:18:44,295 --> 01:18:44,935 question on 3808 01:18:44,935 --> 01:18:45,607 public 3809 01:18:45,607 --> 01:18:49,821 discussion. When we hear comments like this, 3810 01:18:49,821 --> 01:18:50,796 it seems that this 3811 01:18:50,796 --> 01:18:52,379 real problem. 3812 01:18:52,379 --> 01:18:53,558 She is located 3813 01:18:53,558 --> 01:18:54,849 only 30 feet away 3814 01:18:54,849 --> 01:18:57,675 court. So what are we can do and what 3815 01:18:57,675 --> 01:18:59,569 next step? 3816 01:18:59,569 --> 01:19:00,547 Well, before you 3817 01:19:00,547 --> 01:19:01,743 go to this 3818 01:19:01,743 --> 01:19:02,577 parts, mine 3819 01:19:02,577 --> 01:19:03,592 question: is this in 3820 01:19:03,592 --> 01:19:05,839 Sunflower district. 3821 01:19:05,839 --> 01:19:06,903 And they have rules. 3822 01:19:06,903 --> 01:19:08,207 through their condominium association regarding 3823 01:19:08,207 --> 01:19:10,198 their part, 3824 01:19:10,198 --> 01:19:10,712 their 3825 01:19:10,712 --> 01:19:11,639 recreational 3826 01:19:11,639 --> 01:19:13,105 space, right? 3827 01:19:13,105 --> 01:19:14,551 Where is the condominium here? 3828 01:19:14,551 --> 01:19:16,143 This is true. 3829 01:19:16,143 --> 01:19:17,597 Um, condominium, because it is 3830 01:19:17,597 --> 01:19:18,641 can act to 3831 01:19:18,641 --> 01:19:20,132 install additional 3832 01:19:20,132 --> 01:19:21,549 restrictions than those that 3833 01:19:21,549 --> 01:19:22,668 we can have in 3834 01:19:22,668 --> 01:19:25,162 resolution. Um, in such 3835 01:19:25,162 --> 01:19:26,249 cases, um, not 3836 01:19:26,249 --> 01:19:27,074 necessarily 3837 01:19:27,074 --> 01:19:27,862 concerns 3838 01:19:27,862 --> 01:19:29,287 Sunflower, but whatever 3839 01:19:29,287 --> 01:19:30,712 which condominium, because 3840 01:19:30,712 --> 01:19:31,837 I think we have 3841 01:19:31,837 --> 01:19:32,850 over 200 condominiums in 3842 01:19:32,850 --> 01:19:34,237 Cantons to which condominiums 3843 01:19:34,237 --> 01:19:35,362 can install 3844 01:19:35,362 --> 01:19:37,040 additional restrictions. 3845 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,257 So, regarding the common 3846 01:19:38,257 --> 01:19:39,068 elements and 3847 01:19:39,068 --> 01:19:40,353 shared facilities 3848 01:19:40,353 --> 01:19:41,705 for recreation, such 3849 01:19:41,705 --> 01:19:42,820 like their sports 3850 01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:46,773 courts, swimming pools, etc. I know what's in this. 3851 01:19:46,773 --> 01:19:47,686 in the case of condominiums 3852 01:19:47,686 --> 01:19:48,905 locks were installed 3853 01:19:48,905 --> 01:19:51,316 outside. This limits the time, 3854 01:19:51,316 --> 01:19:52,545 when they are active, and 3855 01:19:52,545 --> 01:19:53,740 when people can 3856 01:19:53,740 --> 01:19:54,898 to reach them. Hmm, 3857 01:19:54,898 --> 01:19:56,192 they used 3858 01:19:56,192 --> 01:19:56,839 cameras for 3859 01:19:56,839 --> 01:19:58,415 monitoring. Hmm, they 3860 01:19:58,415 --> 01:19:59,836 set limits 3861 01:19:59,836 --> 01:20:00,876 for hours. They 3862 01:20:00,876 --> 01:20:01,744 allow this 3863 01:20:01,744 --> 01:20:04,424 during the day. So this is 3864 01:20:04,424 --> 01:20:05,644 that, um, we can 3865 01:20:05,644 --> 01:20:07,575 to consider in the future if 3866 01:20:07,575 --> 01:20:08,761 there will be a conflict with 3867 01:20:08,761 --> 01:20:10,964 work, as well as with that the resolution 3868 01:20:10,964 --> 01:20:11,777 regulates regarding 3869 01:20:11,777 --> 01:20:15,110 permissible noise. 3870 01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:16,162 So was there an apartment building? 3871 01:20:16,162 --> 01:20:17,285 these have been converted 3872 01:20:17,285 --> 01:20:18,373 tennis courts on 3873 01:20:18,373 --> 01:20:19,702 pickleball courts? 3874 01:20:19,702 --> 01:20:20,888 Yes. Yes, before that 3875 01:20:20,888 --> 01:20:21,995 There was a tennis court. 3876 01:20:21,995 --> 01:20:23,025 It was converted 3877 01:20:23,025 --> 01:20:24,000 under pickleball. I am not 3878 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,164 sure when exactly 3879 01:20:25,164 --> 01:20:26,469 it happened. I don't think so. 3880 01:20:26,469 --> 01:20:27,864 what is the area of ​​the court itself 3881 01:20:27,864 --> 01:20:29,312 changed. I think that 3882 01:20:29,312 --> 01:20:30,065 just him 3883 01:20:30,065 --> 01:20:30,888 painted and 3884 01:20:30,888 --> 01:20:33,347 painted. 3885 01:20:33,347 --> 01:20:37,345 So, in my opinion, 3886 01:20:37,345 --> 01:20:38,551 what are they expecting, 3887 01:20:38,551 --> 01:20:39,691 except for regulation 3888 01:20:39,691 --> 01:20:40,663 working hours or 3889 01:20:40,663 --> 01:20:42,065 something like that? What 3890 01:20:42,065 --> 01:20:43,392 they expect from 3891 01:20:43,392 --> 01:20:44,775 villages? Even if 3892 01:20:44,775 --> 01:20:46,052 Do you think their 3893 01:20:46,052 --> 01:20:48,733 the problem is the noise, 3894 01:20:48,733 --> 01:20:49,509 installation 3895 01:20:49,509 --> 01:20:50,659 a bigger fence or 3896 01:20:50,659 --> 01:20:51,902 nothing else will solve it 3897 01:20:51,902 --> 01:20:56,894 this problem. Um, I have 3898 01:20:56,894 --> 01:20:58,021 meaning that this 3899 01:20:58,021 --> 01:20:59,481 the problem of the condominium association, not 3900 01:20:59,481 --> 01:21:01,295 the problem of the village. 3901 01:21:01,295 --> 01:21:04,006 That's right. 3902 01:21:04,006 --> 01:21:04,892 Well, except for this 3903 01:21:04,892 --> 01:21:06,276 exceeds the norms for 3904 01:21:06,276 --> 01:21:08,337 noise, right? This is already 3905 01:21:08,337 --> 01:21:09,962 another question. I have on 3906 01:21:09,962 --> 01:21:10,894 mind you, here it is 3907 01:21:10,894 --> 01:21:11,744 what is it about 3908 01:21:11,744 --> 01:21:12,730 concern. 3909 01:21:12,730 --> 01:21:14,043 If this is a problem, then 3910 01:21:14,043 --> 01:21:15,180 that's okay, but 3911 01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:16,423 it seems like she was 3912 01:21:16,423 --> 01:21:17,737 rather...that is, if in 3913 01:21:17,737 --> 01:21:24,477 we have noise regulations, 3914 01:21:24,477 --> 01:21:25,320 I think it's worth it. 3915 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,098 to think about 3916 01:21:26,098 --> 01:21:26,650 future 3917 01:21:26,650 --> 01:21:27,460 installation 3918 01:21:27,460 --> 01:21:28,434 platforms for 3919 01:21:28,434 --> 01:21:29,698 pickleball, where we could 3920 01:21:29,698 --> 01:21:30,736 I would consider, uh, 3921 01:21:30,736 --> 01:21:32,034 recreational noise, but 3922 01:21:32,034 --> 01:21:33,137 this is completely different 3923 01:21:33,137 --> 01:21:41,753 topic for research. 3924 01:21:41,753 --> 01:21:42,667 Can we do this? 3925 01:21:42,667 --> 01:21:43,940 do in social 3926 01:21:43,940 --> 01:21:44,887 village networks, 3927 01:21:44,887 --> 01:21:46,030 for example, to teach 3928 01:21:46,030 --> 01:21:47,271 people, condominiums, uh, so 3929 01:21:47,271 --> 01:21:48,381 that many can 3930 01:21:48,381 --> 01:21:49,067 consider 3931 01:21:49,067 --> 01:21:49,753 possibility 3932 01:21:49,753 --> 01:21:50,928 transformation of their 3933 01:21:50,928 --> 01:21:52,071 tennis courts on 3934 01:21:52,071 --> 01:21:52,985 platforms for 3935 01:21:52,985 --> 01:21:54,193 pickleball, which you are talking about 3936 01:21:54,193 --> 01:21:57,436 Don't you think? When is this 3937 01:21:57,436 --> 01:21:58,652 happens, then already 3938 01:21:58,652 --> 01:22:03,643 too late. So, this is 3939 01:22:03,643 --> 01:22:05,080 a good idea for someone, 3940 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,158 you know, came out and 3941 01:22:06,158 --> 01:22:07,488 started teaching people 3942 01:22:07,488 --> 01:22:11,995 about these improvements. 3943 01:22:11,995 --> 01:22:13,326 We can work with 3944 01:22:13,326 --> 01:22:14,657 our administration 3945 01:22:14,657 --> 01:22:16,676 over this. Hmm, I know that. 3946 01:22:16,676 --> 01:22:18,059 this is a problem that, um, 3947 01:22:18,059 --> 01:22:19,255 has existed for a long time in 3948 01:22:19,255 --> 01:22:20,152 this condominium, with 3949 01:22:20,152 --> 01:22:20,937 proximity 3950 01:22:20,937 --> 01:22:22,282 pickleball courts 3951 01:22:22,282 --> 01:22:26,546 to residential buildings. 3952 01:22:26,546 --> 01:22:27,724 And those in Gainsborough, 3953 01:22:27,724 --> 01:22:28,584 a little further from 3954 01:22:28,584 --> 01:22:29,826 pickleball courts and 3955 01:22:29,826 --> 01:22:30,590 from residential 3956 01:22:30,590 --> 01:22:32,941 houses. There is 3957 01:22:32,941 --> 01:22:33,840 swimming pool, as well as 3958 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:34,706 basketball 3959 01:22:34,706 --> 01:22:35,865 ground. Hmm, I don't. 3960 01:22:35,865 --> 01:22:36,796 I know if there are any 3961 01:22:36,796 --> 01:22:38,080 noise problems from 3962 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:38,722 swimming pool or 3963 01:22:38,722 --> 01:22:39,652 basketball 3964 01:22:39,652 --> 01:22:41,004 playground. And I know, 3965 01:22:41,004 --> 01:22:42,337 that they also have the same 3966 01:22:42,337 --> 01:22:43,742 hour restrictions 3967 01:22:43,742 --> 01:22:45,129 work. Regarding pickleball 3968 01:22:45,129 --> 01:22:46,210 , I don't know very well 3969 01:22:46,210 --> 01:22:47,235 this sport, so 3970 01:22:47,235 --> 01:22:48,233 regarding noise, 3971 01:22:48,233 --> 01:22:49,092 which he creates 3972 01:22:49,092 --> 01:22:50,172 compared to tennis 3973 01:22:50,172 --> 01:22:50,671 court or 3974 01:22:50,671 --> 01:22:51,419 basketball 3975 01:22:51,419 --> 01:22:53,902 playground, I don't really know. 3976 01:22:53,902 --> 01:22:55,027 The only difference 3977 01:22:55,027 --> 01:22:56,284 between the noise of tennis 3978 01:22:56,284 --> 01:22:57,476 and tennis is 3979 01:22:57,476 --> 01:22:58,403 because you have 3980 01:22:58,403 --> 01:23:01,050 plastic ball, and you get this noise from 3981 01:23:01,050 --> 01:23:04,284 rackets, from the court. I understand that noise, 3982 01:23:04,284 --> 01:23:05,165 which one is it about 3983 01:23:05,165 --> 01:23:05,800 spoke, 3984 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,998 it was more about 3985 01:23:06,998 --> 01:23:07,804 the noise of people. 3986 01:23:07,804 --> 01:23:08,982 Number of players. 3987 01:23:08,982 --> 01:23:09,867 Then the number 3988 01:23:09,867 --> 01:23:10,781 players, because they, 3989 01:23:10,781 --> 01:23:11,578 maybe a little 3990 01:23:11,578 --> 01:23:12,551 Are they making noise or something? 3991 01:23:12,551 --> 01:23:13,653 like this. Okay, so you 3992 01:23:13,653 --> 01:23:14,666 control it by 3993 01:23:14,666 --> 01:23:15,587 with your help 3994 01:23:15,587 --> 01:23:16,753 noise regulations and 3995 01:23:16,753 --> 01:23:18,294 hours of work. I have on 3996 01:23:18,294 --> 01:23:19,910 I mean, I don't think so. 3997 01:23:19,910 --> 01:23:20,808 that the village can 3998 01:23:20,808 --> 01:23:22,140 to do something more. 3999 01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:23,253 I mean, you 4000 01:23:23,253 --> 01:23:24,185 bought a house in 4001 01:23:24,185 --> 01:23:25,238 this neighborhood, 4002 01:23:25,238 --> 01:23:26,170 I hate you for this. 4003 01:23:26,170 --> 01:23:27,358 say. Did you know that 4004 01:23:27,358 --> 01:23:28,214 He is there when 4005 01:23:28,214 --> 01:23:32,561 bought a house. I just don't think so. 4006 01:23:32,561 --> 01:23:33,511 ...I don't think so. 4007 01:23:33,511 --> 01:23:34,402 is among ours 4008 01:23:34,402 --> 01:23:35,064 powers 4009 01:23:35,064 --> 01:23:35,811 to solve this 4010 01:23:35,811 --> 01:23:38,609 problem for them. I think they need it. 4011 01:23:38,609 --> 01:23:39,903 to turn to one's 4012 01:23:39,903 --> 01:23:41,012 Condominium. 4013 01:23:41,012 --> 01:23:41,826 And we will talk to 4014 01:23:41,826 --> 01:23:42,692 our officials 4015 01:23:42,692 --> 01:23:43,481 individuals and our 4016 01:23:43,481 --> 01:23:44,372 lawyer on issues 4017 01:23:44,372 --> 01:23:45,110 service 4018 01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:46,080 residents. Perhaps, 4019 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,047 they have already participated 4020 01:23:47,047 --> 01:23:47,942 in this matter, so that 4021 01:23:47,942 --> 01:23:48,861 see what they have 4022 01:23:48,861 --> 01:23:49,707 information or what 4023 01:23:49,707 --> 01:23:50,190 they have 4024 01:23:50,190 --> 01:23:51,012 recommendations regarding 4025 01:23:51,012 --> 01:23:51,858 further action, but, 4026 01:23:51,858 --> 01:23:53,817 you know, for...Yes, you are right. From the point 4027 01:23:53,817 --> 01:23:54,926 view of the resolution, this 4028 01:23:54,926 --> 01:23:56,003 difficult because of everyone 4029 01:23:56,003 --> 01:23:57,210 our condominiums, which have 4030 01:23:57,210 --> 01:23:58,482 shared amenities, and, 4031 01:23:58,482 --> 01:23:59,721 you know, the noises that come from 4032 01:23:59,721 --> 01:24:01,639 They are being reported. 4033 01:24:01,639 --> 01:24:02,908 Yes, if you spoke 4034 01:24:02,908 --> 01:24:03,884 about this issue in 4035 01:24:03,884 --> 01:24:04,763 one of ours 4036 01:24:04,763 --> 01:24:06,065 public parks, in 4037 01:24:06,065 --> 01:24:07,367 Florin Park or Park 4038 01:24:07,367 --> 01:24:08,278 Independence or 4039 01:24:08,278 --> 01:24:09,580 somewhere else, and we...but then 4040 01:24:09,580 --> 01:24:10,621 the courts concerned 4041 01:24:10,621 --> 01:24:11,923 neighboring residential 4042 01:24:11,923 --> 01:24:14,332 at home...sorry... 4043 01:24:14,332 --> 01:24:15,619 Yes, let's be. 4044 01:24:15,619 --> 01:24:17,395 accurate... 4045 01:24:17,395 --> 01:24:18,775 Um, another question then. 4046 01:24:18,775 --> 01:24:19,983 yes, then we can 4047 01:24:19,983 --> 01:24:21,191 solve the problem, 4048 01:24:21,191 --> 01:24:22,123 but, you know, we 4049 01:24:22,123 --> 01:24:23,020 must act 4050 01:24:23,020 --> 01:24:23,952 careful when 4051 01:24:23,952 --> 01:24:25,264 we start working 4052 01:24:25,264 --> 01:24:26,437 private rights 4053 01:24:26,437 --> 01:24:28,576 property, etc. I have 4054 01:24:28,576 --> 01:24:29,683 meaning that in the condominium... 4055 01:24:29,683 --> 01:24:30,790 Let's see. 4056 01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:31,928 honestly, a lot 4057 01:24:31,928 --> 01:24:32,881 Which one of them is in this? 4058 01:24:32,881 --> 01:24:33,896 they don't have a town 4059 01:24:33,896 --> 01:24:34,511 problems with 4060 01:24:34,511 --> 01:24:35,680 fence adjustment 4061 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:36,849 and whether people can 4062 01:24:36,849 --> 01:24:37,894 to put up a fence, or 4063 01:24:37,894 --> 01:24:38,847 what type of fence 4064 01:24:38,847 --> 01:24:40,089 to put etc. Then 4065 01:24:40,089 --> 01:24:42,808 What do you mean? 4066 01:24:42,808 --> 01:24:43,988 But, you know, let 4067 01:24:43,988 --> 01:24:46,015 they are doing this. 4068 01:24:46,015 --> 01:24:46,790 Yes, I was. 4069 01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:47,982 It's a shame to interrupt her, 4070 01:24:47,982 --> 01:24:49,026 but she was going 4071 01:24:49,026 --> 01:24:49,920 to continue further 4072 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:50,617 for a while. 4073 01:24:50,617 --> 01:24:51,472 I know. 4074 01:24:51,472 --> 01:24:52,556 Yes, and condominiums have 4075 01:24:52,556 --> 01:24:53,955 better position in such 4076 01:24:53,955 --> 01:24:55,180 cases, because there are 4077 01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:56,404 many people who are 4078 01:24:56,404 --> 01:24:57,803 members of the condominium association and want 4079 01:24:57,803 --> 01:24:58,958 play pickleball, and 4080 01:24:58,958 --> 01:25:00,322 there are also many people, 4081 01:25:00,322 --> 01:25:01,511 who live nearby and 4082 01:25:01,511 --> 01:25:03,286 want different rules. 4083 01:25:03,286 --> 01:25:04,466 So, how much is this? 4084 01:25:04,466 --> 01:25:05,831 maybe, yes, some 4085 01:25:05,831 --> 01:25:07,269 compromise, you know, 4086 01:25:07,269 --> 01:25:08,671 who is affected by this, and 4087 01:25:08,671 --> 01:25:09,888 on the residents, and on 4088 01:25:09,888 --> 01:25:11,142 players, and on condominiums, 4089 01:25:11,142 --> 01:25:16,611 which represents them. 4090 01:25:16,611 --> 01:25:18,469 But for our part, we will cooperate 4091 01:25:18,469 --> 01:25:18,946 with organs 4092 01:25:18,946 --> 01:25:19,827 executive branch and 4093 01:25:19,827 --> 01:25:20,614 our lawyer with 4094 01:25:20,614 --> 01:25:20,923 questions 4095 01:25:20,923 --> 01:25:21,614 service 4096 01:25:21,614 --> 01:25:22,949 residents to see which one 4097 01:25:22,949 --> 01:25:23,878 they did the work 4098 01:25:23,878 --> 01:25:24,545 here or elsewhere 4099 01:25:24,545 --> 01:25:25,474 sites to see, 4100 01:25:25,474 --> 01:25:26,380 can this help 4101 01:25:26,380 --> 01:25:27,095 from our point of view 4102 01:25:27,095 --> 01:25:28,547 resolutions. 4103 01:25:28,547 --> 01:25:30,661 Okay, thank you. I remember 4104 01:25:30,661 --> 01:25:31,555 proposal about 4105 01:25:31,555 --> 01:25:32,290 transfer 4106 01:25:32,290 --> 01:25:32,997 meeting. 4107 01:25:32,997 --> 01:25:33,917 I support. 4108 01:25:33,917 --> 01:25:34,823 We don't ask everyone 4109 01:25:34,823 --> 01:25:36,049 speak at the same time 4110 01:25:36,049 --> 01:25:36,677 Okay, we have 4111 01:25:36,677 --> 01:25:37,382 proposal about 4112 01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:37,960 transfer 4113 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:38,614 meeting from 4114 01:25:38,614 --> 01:25:39,570 Commissioner Singh, which 4115 01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:40,652 supports Commissioner Lee. 4116 01:25:40,652 --> 01:25:41,915 All in favor, please. 4117 01:25:41,915 --> 01:25:43,344 Speak up. Someone 4118 01:25:43,344 --> 01:25:44,663 "against"? I am not like that. 4119 01:25:44,663 --> 01:25:46,127 I think.