[0:21] Okay, good evening. I'll call the meeting to work order [0:25] and we have several different agenda items to take care of tonight and [0:32] naturally we have two different legal and public hearings and what we're going [0:37] to do both agenda eyes there's a 5:00 start time we're going to choose to [0:44] start with the Canyon County Ambulance District fiscal year 2026 budget hearing [0:51] so uh With that, um, I'll call the meeting to order acting as the board of [0:57] commissioners for the Kenny County Ambulance District. [1:01] And so, uh, call to order. So, present is Commissioner Brooks, Commissioner [1:07] Dani, and I'm Commissioner Bolton again for the record. And so, start with the [1:13] agenda item, and it's approval of board meeting agenda notice postings. Has the [1:18] postings been made? >> Yes. [1:20] » Okay. It's been made. So, do I have a motion [1:24] to receive the secretary's agenda notice postage report? [1:27] » Chairman, I move that we accept the agenda. [1:30] » Second. All right. Motion's been made, seconded to accept the agenda as posted. [1:34] All those in favor say I. >> I. [1:37] » I. Motion carries unanimously. So, is there's no need to amen the agenda [1:42] tonight? >> Nope. All right. So, new business public [1:47] hearing for teny fiscal year 2025 to 2026 budget. So, I would open the uh [1:55] public hearing for the tenant budget and it's been posted and is there anyone who [2:02] would like to address the board on the proposed budget? [2:11] All right, last call. All right. Being there's none, I would [2:16] like to have the chief come up and go through the budget presentation as as [2:23] has been advertised presented and if there's any additional things that you [2:28] would like to call out and make. [2:33] So, Mr. Chair, and audience members, thank you for [2:37] being here tonight to hear the presentation for the county district [2:41] budget. I'd also like to thank uh all my co-workers, the staff. It's been a [2:46] really rough year. We've shared a lot of data over the last couple years and [2:49] they've uh they've carried on through quite a bit of some tough times and turn [2:53] over and everything and so really appreciate them. Uh and also really [2:58] appreciate the voters this year. Uh we went out for a couple levy overrides [3:03] that failed the first few times and it did end up passing. I do have a slide in [3:06] here that will show a little bit about that and we just couldn't be more [3:10] thankful for the voters. Uh it is going to be a game changer for for our [3:14] community from everything from the hospitals, fire, police, everybody's [3:19] going to benefit from annual service. So this is the long overdue and I think fin [3:30] that their tax dollars are at work. So, so we really appreciate that. So, start [3:36] off with uh [3:42] okay, I always have this slide. I just have four slides, I think, tonight. Just [3:45] always put this up just so people can have kind of a little bit idea of who we [3:49] are. We have about 70 paramedics and EMTs on staff. Kind of comes up goes up [3:54] and down depending on the year. 12 administrative staff. We do have eight [3:58] ambulances in service each day if we're fully staffed. We have one ALS chase [4:03] vehicle in Wilder. I just have a single paramedic that responds ambulance and we [4:09] have nine stations that we function out of and we really work well with the fire [4:14] department. So you can see we co-house with Middleton, Wilder, Nampa and [4:18] sometimes we're at the call fire station if we are fully staffed fiscal year call [4:23] volume. So we hover right around 20,000 uh probably going to be up around 21,000 [4:29] this next year just with growth. So pretty consistent there. [4:34] So just to put up a little bit of levy override information. I know probably [4:38] most everybody in this room has seen it because we were all over everywhere news [4:42] you name it for uh starting at the end of 2023 [4:46] and end of 2024. So we asked for $7.9 million for two years temporary [4:52] override. We will be back before the voters in two years uh to ask for that [4:57] to continue on. Uh the main focus was to rebuild the station in Amb torn down to [5:04] build a new station in Calwell because we haven't built one here in Calwell in [5:07] 22 years and so we're long overdue for that station. Want to add an ambulance [5:11] to the station to that station. Had seven paramedics with competitive wages [5:16] that we're already working on. And then these just last two bullet points are [5:20] things that people probably don't realize happens. This is some of the [5:23] data we got really good sharing on monthly basis that people we got a lot [5:27] of feedback that they couldn't believe some of these numbers. So level zero [5:31] means there are no ambulances available to take a call and so this data was from [5:36] July. So 13 times during that month there every ambulance on a call could [5:40] not go and the number of times that ambulance were shut down. So when we [5:46] shut down ambulances is typically the one in Middleton one of the n units and [5:50] the wild unit. So 58 times units were shut down and that's hard to think of [5:55] but literally without that $1, we would have continued that. So that's hard to [6:01] fathom that that's the case. We live the reality. So it's it is the case. [6:08] So here is our fiscal budget for 2026 and it has the 2025 2026 and the [6:16] difference. So salaries and benefits um you'll see that went up significantly [6:21] for 2026 because that is part of that those levy dollars. One was to add more [6:26] staff and then to get competitive wages because our turnover rate much the same [6:31] as the sheriff's department several years ago was you know as high as 20%. [6:36] We just couldn't keep people with the wages that we were paying. They'd start [6:39] with us and off to the next department they go once they're trained. So that's [6:43] why that went up so much that the tax dollars are paying for that and we're [6:47] going to be able to retain people and hire more people and then keep them [6:51] which will actually cause some of those expenses to go down. So uh benefits, [6:56] same thing. So a total there a budget of $1.9 million [7:02] down to Budget. Uh so the reason that first capital expenses and purchase went [7:08] up is because of the stations that we need to build. So that's uh that's a [7:12] higher number than normal, but that will cover those two stations. Leases went up [7:17] slightly because we're leasing the space at Middleton fire this year where we [7:21] have that ambulance service agreements just the typical that goes up. [7:26] Professionals took our fees. This is part of the reason that one went up [7:30] because we need to pay fees for the A&E because we're going to build a building. [7:34] We've got to actually budget for which we haven't had in the past. that [7:38] definitely raise that line by item. Supply is pretty typical goes up. [7:42] Telephines went down. Um repair and maintenance just your typical up and [7:46] down. And then the big one down at the the bottom we have to because those levy [7:53] funds are going to come in. We usually just zero out our budget. You know, we [7:57] need to balance. So we have to show what we're going to have in that reserve fund [8:01] by the end of the year. And that is because we won't expend all those levy [8:05] dollars the first year. They will carry into the next year to go into those [8:09] projects that we have budgeted for. So there's your total fiscal year budget. [8:15] Then down into the revenue to property taxes. That's where you will see the [8:18] reflection of that temporary override funds came in. That's why it went up by [8:23] $8 million. The 7.9 plus the 3% that that all goes in there. So that's why [8:29] that is higher than normal for us. ARPA we will expend all of our ARPA [8:35] funds in the current fiscal year. So that's why that will be zeroed out for [8:38] 2026 because those funds service fees we kept um that's the [8:45] ambulance fees that people pay when they take a trip. We kept that flat because [8:49] it's gone up and down so much this year that uh we just thought rather than [8:54] taking it up to do more let's just keep it flat. We want to make sure that we [8:58] get through our budget in case it goes down slightly. So, we just kept that one [9:02] flat. Other uh that one went up uh slightly [9:08] 1.2 $1.4 million. And that is those some possible funds that we can get. Uh [9:14] there's some Medicaid funds, federal dollars, and we hope those come in. [9:18] We're not budgeting to to rely on them, but that's why that [9:23] number is there because of possible that we're really hoping to get, but not [9:27] necessarily counting on totally to get that. [9:32] that is so definitely a different one for us [9:36] just because of the funds the levy funds that like I said we could not be more [9:40] thankful we're going to be very transparent we move through whether it's [9:44] building stations hiring staff you know that's going to be on the social media [9:48] we're going to show the taxpayers each time that we do something that said [9:52] we're going to do so they can see that we actually are doing what they what [9:56] they look for that's [10:05] only one and that it's just more a matter of record on total bad debts [10:10] makes it look like we're not pursuing those skip that line but that actually [10:14] includes the contractually adjusted portion which you can't legally pursue. [10:17] So that's a little bit of a conr that we can't break that out. [10:21] » Yep, correct. I probably have my top line down through there. So yes, that is [10:25] an is an odd one. It has to do with the Medicare write offs that we are forced [10:30] to. It is not something that's sent off to collections. Uh they do dictate what [10:35] charge for a call and so they dictate what writing off. So that is correct. [10:39] That is not our department is not doing their job. That's mandated. It's [10:44] unfortunate, but you got to show it. Thanks for [10:51] a great job. good about presenting your budget and [10:56] being fiscally conservative to the point where you didn't take [11:00] increase yourself for several years dedicated to completing that department [11:04] and it's tough when you don't have the wages to support that you're correct [11:08] that turnover is very costly and so we should be able to [11:14] facilitate >> we're looking forward to keeping people [11:17] up so the the cos too they they don't like seeing people coming down so we're [11:22] looking forward to it. That'll be a new day. [11:26] » Yeah. >> I'm in favor of passing this budget as [11:30] it's been presented. There's been a lot of work. We met probably more times with [11:34] the ambulance district than we did any other department or office in Ky County. [11:39] There's a lot of work that went into this. [11:44] » We have we spent several quite a few meetings. They're all published in the [11:49] records. [11:57] So I would entertain discussion or motion to approve resolution [12:04] 25-21 year 2025 to 2026 budget. [12:11] Mr. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve and sign resolution number 2521, [12:17] the resolution on board county district [12:22] » as presented. >> I second. [12:24] » All right. Motion's been made and seconded. All those in favor say I. [12:28] » I. >> I. I. Motion carries unanimously. [12:31] All right. So that brings us to the third agenda item and it's to approve [12:35] the 2025 dollar certification of the budget request to board of [12:41] board of county commissioners and commonly referred to as the L2 [12:49] and it literally is says L204. So there you go. So I have discussion or a motion [12:55] to to approve that. Chairman, I move that we approve the L2 [13:01] as presented. >> I second. All right. Motion's been made [13:04] and seconded. All those in favor say I. >> I. [13:07] » I. I. Motion carries unanimously. >> All right. [13:12] Care of the business for this. Uh do you have any closing comment? [13:16] » I do not. I appreciate. >> We're just I think all of us are just [13:20] really thankful to be in this position and moving forward. [13:25] We will we will stay open and transparent as we make those decisions [13:30] on those stations. [13:34] » All right, Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn. All right, [13:38] » I second. >> Motion's been made and seconded to [13:40] adjournment. All those in favor say I. >> I. [13:42] » I. We are pass the county district board of commissioners. [13:50] All right. Thank you. [14:01] So with that we will now I would like to open [14:09] the Canyon County Board of Commissioners uh meeting. So present is Commissioner [14:14] Brooks Commission by Commissioner Brad Holton. And tonight on the agenda item, [14:21] it is a budget hearing for Canyon County, Canyon County Pest Control [14:26] District and the Melbour District. So we're going to do a public hearing on [14:31] the Oregon gun increase also will be held in conjunction with county's annual [14:37] annual budget hearing this evening. [14:42] So with that um the audience that that came there is a packet and have a a [14:53] public hearing agenda. So what I'd like to do is welcome [14:58] everyone here for the the county's portion of the public hearing on the [15:03] budget tonight. And uh for the audience that's tuning in, we have I don't know, [15:10] I'm guessing in the neighborhood of what 3540 people in the gallery. And so we [15:16] appreciate you taking the time to join us by internet. [15:22] With that, um I would like to ask either of my fellow [15:28] commissioners if you have an open statement that you care to or just get [15:33] right into the agenda. I have closing comments, but I prefer [15:38] just a public. >> You can be a real [15:44] good >> um I I would you want to pass I have a [15:49] couple straight public. [15:53] » Okay. So, I just like to to put on the record that uh everyone in Idaho lives [15:59] in one of the 44 counties. And these counties range in size from under 7,000 [16:05] people to somewhere above 535,000 people in a single county. And so, [16:12] Canyon is uh by numbers, you can look one of the higher numbers that is on the [16:18] internet, it's 267,000 people. I I believe is more than likely [16:24] above that, but that's that's the data that was was mined off of the internet [16:30] this afternoon. So, the thing that's interesting about counties is we have [16:37] many things that are mandated by the state and some of them are not paid for. [16:44] They are paid for out of our property taxes. And so um it makes things tough [16:51] as budgets get tight and we are still mandated to perform the services and we [16:58] are moving towards critical mass on that and I think some of the details of that [17:04] concern will come out later during the u the presentation and the public hearing. [17:11] So I just want to to make note of that. Further into the meeting, I'm going to [17:15] give you some data on uh the jail and the population in the jail and what that [17:23] cost us as taxpayers. It's probably some information that some [17:29] people are going to find that's pretty frustrating. But any rate, I am glad [17:35] that we have got to this point. Uh we have gone through numerous meetings to [17:42] get to where we are tonight. and they are delineated on the annual [17:46] packet. This uh same packet that that we're referring to and have printed out [17:51] is also available on the web page on our agenda as a PDF that was posted earlier [18:00] this afternoon and before the meeting. So, if you that are tuning in want to to [18:06] go to the Cany County website, click on that commissioner's agenda page. That [18:10] PDF is right there on the agenda I have posted for the five o'clock meeting that [18:16] we are in right now tonight. So with that um I would Is it okay with you too [18:23] if I open public? >> Yes. [18:25] » All right. So I would like to open public testimony. Is there anyone in the [18:30] gallery that would like to address the board of commissioners tonight [18:35] concerning the budget? [18:40] All right, last call. All right, I would uh ask that we make a [18:48] motion to close public testimony. >> Go ahead. [18:52] » Second. >> Is it full of words tonight? Okay, [18:56] motion's been made and seconded. All those in favor say I. [19:00] » I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. So now [19:04] we're in the portion of the agenda that is the deliberation to a budget decision [19:09] and any statements that by each commissioner that they might have. So uh [19:14] we can discuss priorities for the fiscal 2026 budget or whatever items you have [19:21] in your statement that you would like to share. [19:30] » Well, chairman, thank you. This has been a pretty big process. You have indicated [19:35] that on page seven, that's where you're going to find the data that you [19:39] referenced, 26 days of budget meetings with more than 65 budget related [19:45] discussions on the record. So, uh, the board has adopted a philosophy of trust, [19:50] transparency, respect, and unification, service, and teamwork. So we have tried [19:55] to the very best of our ability to be inclusive in that process and welcome [19:59] anyone that wants to come. And to our recollection there was not one citizen [20:04] that showed up. There were a lot of elected officials, chief deputies, [20:09] people in the department that were interested in coming that which makes [20:13] sense. It's a big deal to have a budget, particularly coming out of a previous [20:17] board where there was a reduction of $14 million, an increase in $9 million of [20:22] salaries and other ancillary costs that really made it challenging. So, the [20:27] priorities for this board were to be able to bring stability to the budget [20:31] while continuing excellence in service and retaining employees. That was [20:35] important to us. So, thank you everyone that's bothered to come. This is a a [20:39] less attended meeting, but I think it's a direct reflection of the unity with [20:44] within the board of county commissioners and really rolling up their sleeves and [20:48] getting to the job with collaborative efforts between all the elected [20:51] officials, the added presence of Rick Hob. And then, um, I want to really [20:56] highlight the efforts of our chief operating officer, Greg Brass. He's [21:01] dedicated. He's strategic and his leadership he's tenured in the public [21:04] sector and he understands Fonda County accounting. His ability to lead and [21:08] network and bring people together has contributed to not only the success of [21:12] this budget but the overall county operations. So, thank you for that. You [21:16] deserve a lot of recognition for what you do for Kenyan County and um you've [21:21] been in government service a long time and and thank you. I also appreciate [21:25] that that our controller Kyle Wilmont and the clerk have brought together the [21:31] reflective efforts of the board to retain employees to work together with [21:37] this to reflect what it is that we want to do to provide stability and at the [21:41] same time deliver that excellence and service that we talked about. So the [21:45] dedication of the taxpayer dollars are really evident across county for capital [21:49] projects, long range planning and retaining employees and the produ [21:54] productive government is really something I don't want to take for [21:57] granted. Um inviting is difficult to work in a climate like that. Thank you [22:02] for helping get some of that worked out. Um but [22:06] um it's evident across the county with the capital projects. There's a listing [22:10] of those in there. What the tax dollars are doing from the sheriff's [22:13] administration building. Um I've heard that there are is a group of people who [22:17] are wondering why commissioners are not moving more on the geo project. So [22:22] obviously their lack of attendance at a budget hearing, they're not [22:25] understanding that we have a women's facility that is phase one underway. I [22:29] want to recognize Doug Hart as well because without his leadership and his [22:32] ability to articulate a budget, it would not be the same scenario that we're [22:37] talking about to move that effort forward. There are long range plans for [22:40] a public safety facility. We have Chris Boyd here who really does a marvelous [22:46] job even earlier in the game at representing what prosecution should [22:50] look like in Kenya County. Thank you. Appreciate that your team. Uh so it is a [22:54] fantastic team and uh budget is just one part of what 10 [23:00] county commissioners do. Um coming early in 2026, the war county commissioners [23:06] will be focused on policy. So enhanced services, increased public safety, [23:11] answering the call of phase one for a jail facility and managing growth, [23:16] adding to the recreational opportunities in Kenya County. That all contributes to [23:20] where we're at today. It's a privilege to serve as a commissioner in Kenya [23:24] County and what we're doing to move this forward to be really a leader in the [23:29] state of Idaho and what we do. It's our directors are amazing. I appreciate [23:34] their presence here tonight. All of you that are here if you're not mentioned by [23:37] name. Uh but you're a great team to work with and as chief operating officer [23:42] reports back to the board. You're a pleasure to work with. So, thank you for [23:46] letting me express. I do want to also call out Aaron Williams uh that [23:50] constituent services position in managing the public interface with the [23:55] citizens of Kenya County. He's an unsung hero. He has a list of qualifications [24:00] that is amazing and he brings them to bear here in Kenya County and we really [24:05] appreciate what's being given for us. So, [24:15] Good job. You're the best hype man around. [24:20] Um, Mr. Chairman, I really have prepared remarks other than I appreciate the [24:24] process that we go through every year. I think the [24:29] at least I would like to think the lack of [24:33] folks that have signed up to to give remarks on the budget good, bad [24:39] or different is indicative of how thorough the process is, how transparent [24:44] it is um and you know right, wrong or indifferent I like to say but basically [24:53] by this time through the process which we've gone crew and the numerous [24:58] meetings that we have held because it's basically cooked, you know. Um [25:05] I would point out a few of these. I've just been looking through it and think [25:09] until I sit here, but you can you can see that the overall budget is up and if [25:14] you look at that that you know instantly can cause you great concern if you do [25:19] not go through this and actually review what is the cause of that. [25:24] um you know and and most of that would be centered around the uh the sheriff's [25:31] budget and rightly so in this case because the sheriff's office building [25:36] that we need to complete and the female detention facility that um we definitely [25:42] need to get moved on in my opinion. Um, but if you go through and look at this [25:48] as far as other expenses on the what we call BB budget side, [25:54] a lot of these are down and down considerably. And I would give kudos to [26:00] those of you here in the room that have participated in that. We request that [26:04] you keep your budgets flat. and if we were going to entertain the idea of [26:11] adding any employees that you came with um how that employee was going to be [26:16] paid for and I think at this point we are adding one employee because [26:21] um because the revenue is covering that other than that you guys have all done a [26:27] remarkable job um in in crafting your own budgets and working with the board [26:32] and our in our desire to keep this as wide as we possibly we could, but yet [26:37] still provide the services that we feel that we need to at the level that the [26:42] taxpayer expects and is acceptable with. Um, [26:50] and as Commissioner Bambi said, it is a group effort. It's been very [26:54] collaborative. Um, [26:58] we haven't always agreed on everything and I kind of enjoy that sometimes, [27:02] maybe too much. But, um, yeah, [27:08] this is I voted to I voted to print this, Mr. Chairman. Um, and I'm still in [27:14] support of it. I would I would like to potentially make one small change, and [27:21] it's not up or down. It would be the clerk's gonna love this. Um, [27:29] we've been holding on to $30,000 out there for uh that loud thing that goes [27:34] by every day multiple times. I'm not exactly wanting to get rid of [27:40] that. I would like to uh I would like to move that into the reserve account. At [27:44] this time, I'm not entirely impressed with or [27:54] expectant that our city partner is is going to meet us where I would feel [28:00] comfortable meeting partway with those spots. So I [28:04] would rather move those into the reserve account that if we were to need them [28:09] later that we would have them availility. [28:13] » Okay. [28:19] » Yes. And fisher, do you mind speaking a little bit about the [28:25] I guess some of the confusion that's created by the receipt of the ramp arbor [28:30] funds and then the expenditure of those were the onetime expenses. Can you talk [28:36] a little bit about that again? [28:41] » Just I think it's important because there was [28:46] a lot of rhetoric that was inaccurate information around the ARPA funds that [28:50] have been receeded. So um there's going the rest of those funds are going to be [28:54] expended by the end of this year. But it makes the budget look funny. I guess [28:59] there I don't want to say anything different than that. Oh, it makes it [29:03] makes it look much larger than it otherwise would be. I mean, if you look [29:06] here page four, it looks like we're spending [29:13] Democrats, if you will. My apologies Democrats, but um that [29:21] number for what everything I understand is is [29:27] definitely going to go down. we have to expend those ARA funds by the end of [29:31] calendar year 2026. Um, [29:36] you know, that's partly why we're we're doing the projects that we are we had to [29:41] pick something and roll with it. We we had deadlines to meet or we were going [29:46] to have to get those back. And um you can make the argument whether or not we [29:50] should have accepted them or kept them or spent them. and uh we've we've chose [29:55] to keep them and expend them and in ways that we think are going to benefit the [30:00] citizens of Canyon County as best as we can. So, by building that building, it's [30:04] going to open up space the rest of the county, the county uh [30:10] courthouse, uh so that we can potentially remodel in the next three or [30:15] four years to better serve the public and have have the uh courthouse better [30:21] arranged. and some of the interest on that money which you know we received 44 [30:25] million we're expending 8 million of that this year but over those years were [30:29] between the time that we received and the time we were charged it's going to [30:33] help offset some of the expenses on the sheriff's administration building the [30:37] revenue still has to be booked to match the expense on that so it's a little bit [30:42] confusing and the reason that I'm bringing it out is not to confuse the [30:45] public but to say that that narrative if people don't understand accounting or [30:51] the history and how we got here. Um, but there just needs to be a statement on [30:56] there that that's what's happening with the budget is if we had to receive that [31:01] revenue or to spend it on projects that we've identified. [31:05] » Correct. And it it is appropriate to point out because it's used as a [31:10] political weapon against us for again looking like spend [31:15] commissioners that have now fiscal responsibility. [31:19] um you know especially come election time. So [31:25] » right and I mean you can we can we can explain it to local interface some are [31:31] still going to choose not to not to understand it [31:35] choose to weaponize it. So it is what it is. [31:39] » Thank you for the discussion. I want to say too that on the impact fees that's [31:42] also moving forward. the countyy's allowed to take the impact fees for four [31:46] different reasons under Idaho state statute and um Darren Williams has led [31:51] that effort that's going to continue move forward. People ask about that. [31:55] He's really wellqualified and suited to put that together but um establishing [32:00] what as particularly as we look at the sher and the jail people think impact [32:05] fees will pay for that initial and I would I don't think that it will. It [32:10] won't. And so to evaluate that and establish the plan, we have an impact [32:15] fee committee in place which again director Williams is in charge of and [32:19] really we're really proud of his efforts on that. It was what the public was [32:22] asking for. We're answering that call but that's coming and we'll be more [32:28] active next year. So chairman too I want to point out on [32:33] the AR projects which is in there but um Chief Soul talked about the ambulances. [32:39] So the $2 million was out of the arc funds that commissioners dedicated to [32:43] serve the public in 911 events. The animal shelter, there has been a lot of [32:49] discussion around West Valley Humane Society and the county dedicates a lot [32:54] of inind resources as well as financial dollars to support [32:59] animals in Canyon County. The new elections building was a huge win. [33:04] County warehouse that we stopped paying a lease payment. Now, we own the land [33:07] and we own the building. The residential properties where we're expanding those [33:13] and making capital purchases is a win for Canyon County. We've acquired a [33:17] property that will help save taxpayers money for fleet and our facilities as [33:24] they build a lot of furniture. And then again, the sheriff's administration [33:27] building really will be a great state-of-the-art emergency operations [33:33] center and locate our command staff in one place. They're a little bit [33:36] scattered right now. Building that is, you know, all these facilities are where [33:41] the statistics are out there. We wanted to ask the sheriff's office to proide [33:44] those on the year that jail facilities and sheriff's courouses all that were [33:49] built that they are aging infrastructure and we're answering the call before [33:55] and building for the future. [34:00] » Okay. [34:05] Okay, I do a u Okay, I do a short uh pick up and uh [34:12] delineate a little bit deeper on the animal shelter society. The county owns [34:19] the facility. The county does not operate the facility. The West Valley [34:24] Humane Society operates the facility. the county increased our budget that we [34:31] give for that nonprofit to operate the facility. We increased our budget [34:36] $40,000 this year because we felt it was our proportional share of what was [34:43] needed to uh continue in operation. I know that it may come up in the news a [34:49] lot and I want to make it clear that for uh this year we put almost a million [34:56] dollars in ARPA funds and fixing and restoring portions of that building that [35:02] we didn't charge the humane society for. And so I want to make it clear that even [35:08] though the keyboard warriors are really upset at different things about the [35:14] animal shelter, this commissioner knows that we are more than paying our [35:19] proportional share. Now, that encumbers other municipalities [35:24] uh about what to do. And I I uh have compassion for those other [35:29] municipalities because they're working in in budget struggling, [35:35] throttling positions that the state legislature has put us into. But, um [35:41] just wanted to make that clear is it is our building, but that's as far as that [35:47] part goes. What I'd like to do is pivot a little [35:52] bit and I did a teaser on this at the opening and u why are we now suddenly [36:02] building a jail and the jail's been before you three times with bond levies [36:07] that called everything from the Taj Mahal to not needed. Um the state [36:12] legislature in its infinite wisdom for for many [36:17] decades and possibly over a hundred years determined that counties run [36:24] jails. The sheriff runs the jail and where the prisoners and his officers the [36:30] county commissioners own and maintain the building. [36:36] It's a It's a strange deal how that all works, but in Ky County, it works [36:41] flawless. We have a great relationship with the sheriff and and his people. So, [36:49] real numbers, today's population is 489 inmates. Today, 411 of them are males, [36:56] 92 of them are females. So out of that population, inmates sentenced to time in [37:03] the prison today is 55 termers. Today there's 61 parole holds, meaning [37:11] that they have no other pending charges, but they've done something and they've [37:16] been thrown in jail. Seven sentenced to a writer. Total is [37:23] 123 in our jail today. that should be moved to Idaho Department of [37:28] Corrections. It should be out of here. 18 of those inmates ready to be moved to [37:34] IDOC are female. 43 of the inmates have a local charge [37:40] but also have a parole hold and is not able to be bonded down. So these [37:46] inmates, the state does not have to pay for county health, but it's on a state [37:53] charge writer that they're in the system, but yet Cany County gets to hold [37:57] that. So I say thank you to the taxpayers of Canyon County. The state in [38:04] its infinite wisdom pays Canyon County for the first seven days of [38:09] incarceration for their prison. they pay $55 [38:16] for the after that they pay $76 a day. So if you if you give them slack and you [38:25] say well they maybe they only owe us $55. [38:28] So if you take 55 and today's just a normal day. It's not a it's not a [38:33] holiday. It's not go on a binge drinking day. It's a normal middle day of the [38:39] week day. 123 prisoners that should be on the state system. That's $6,765. [38:48] You multiply that by a year, 365. You come out to, and thank you, Kenny County [38:54] taxpayers. We're subsidizing the state of Idaho, Idaho Department of [38:59] Corrections, 2,469,225. [39:06] and we're sitting here trying to figure out how to get through a budget and that [39:12] part frustrates me to no end. [39:18] Moving right along. I have been more than pleased that we [39:25] asked the county employees, their directors, and the [39:31] elected officials to hold the budget as best as they can and they've done that. [39:38] So for this year out in the county [39:44] we have had a increase [39:50] of building now I've lost the number [39:57] chat page [40:02] we are tonight or today and it's past this since this number was taken we're [40:06] at 106 6,000 parcels, 593. When I got into office, we were [40:14] somewhere between 98,000 and 101. [40:19] So, we're growing. One of the things that's going to be really important for [40:24] public to get into their mind is this chart here. [40:30] If you look very careful, it's over several years. 2017 clear ups 2024 does [40:36] not include this year but look and see where those lot divisions are occurring. [40:45] News flash the majority of them are not in Kenny County they are within the [40:50] municipalities. So when we get the ownerous of growth [40:58] leveled at the Ky County Board of Commissioners, [41:01] we're not in the driver's seat in the majority of those land divisions and the [41:06] growth of Ky County. It's within the incorporated municipalities. Another [41:11] thing that just bores me, a municipality does not does not ever ask permission to [41:19] annex. The state of Idaho set up that a county [41:24] has the ground out there in the county and anytime that a city wants to annex [41:29] in. There's rules on the annexation for them to be continuous, but a city can [41:33] choose without permission from the county to annex in anything and continue [41:37] to grow. So what I'm trying to tell you is when you have great frustrations [41:43] about the growth, please go back and refer to the new subdivision last for [41:48] municipality. Find out that the county is proportionately very small [41:54] responsibility. So [41:58] the other thing that is fascinating is that the value of that growth is [42:05] somewhere just over $3 billion. And if you take that as a percentage of [42:11] increase from last year to this year, you go from 37.460,590,000. [42:21] You go up to 41 billion which is a 9.77% increase. [42:28] What have we increased our budget? 2.12 growth is not paying for growth. [42:39] And this track that we're on growth and expenses is going to collide and pass [42:46] each other and it probably might next year. That's why we're asking everybody [42:51] to to hold their budgets flat because the way the legislature has written the [42:57] rules on House Bill 389, 10% of all new growth value has taken off and it's [43:04] taken off again and again. It is a compound negative effect. [43:10] It is a very complicated formula. I spent several hours today deciding [43:16] whether I was going to attempt to describe the club with the formula. [43:21] I decided that I'm not other than the very simplistic thing that you need to [43:25] keep in mind is automatically pay for itself because the legislature has [43:30] instructed that whatever that value is, it's a $100. We can only incur the $90 [43:37] value out of the 100 10% off. Who picks up the other 10%? [43:42] we do everybody that's living here and we keep getting less and less money to [43:47] work with to try to provide the services that we provide. The other thing that's [43:52] fascinating is House Bill 673 further constrain new construction. It's [43:59] the only business that I know of that you can put you can buy [44:04] and you can put improvements for several years in a row and sell it and you will [44:10] never pay for the increased value of what you built. [44:15] I I'm not aware of another business in the state of Idaho who's allowed to own [44:19] things for multiple years and put hundreds if not millions of dollars into [44:24] it and the property value, the taxable value of that is locked in at [44:32] price of the sweet deal. Maybe one we need to look [44:37] into with our legislators. I'd like a deal like that with my [44:41] electronics business. I think it' be great. It'd be wonderful. Maybe I should [44:46] be a land developer. Nah, I don't think so. Anyway, [44:53] what what I've experienced going through this is hundreds of people working [45:00] really hard to tow the line. And I know I'll be asked this simple, [45:08] this simple question. Did you raise the budget any? And my answer is, yeah, but [45:14] not proportional to the growth. We raised it a little, but not [45:18] proportionate to what the expenses will be. Those 3,000 new parcels, [45:26] we hope they all come with really good people, but the reality is they come [45:30] with some bad and those bad will enter our system. [45:34] There's another thing, boy. I can just think of thing after thing that we're [45:37] mandated to provide to you property tax dollars. Just think of it. Everybody [45:43] that gets arrested, we help pay for the sheriff. Then we [45:48] help pay for the jail. Then we help pay for the building that the judges sit in. [45:54] We help pay for the maintenance and upkeep of that ground. I mean, it just [45:59] goes on and on and on. and the prosecution. He's a good guy, too. And [46:04] the prosecution and they did take off the table for the cost of of the defense [46:10] attorneys, but even that is not as advertised and [46:15] uh we're still paying on that even though the legislature said that they [46:19] took it all. But uh they're housed in this building and we've been told that [46:26] we shall maintain that space for them and we pay all of the electricity, all [46:30] of the cleaning bills, all the maintenance bills [46:34] for the next three years if I if I have the numbers right. I could be wrong off [46:38] a little bit. It's another one of those things that is a unfunded mandate that [46:45] they make the press with. And yet who picks up the dollar? bill property tax [46:51] payers. So, I don't like property tax [46:58] any more than the next guy, but this is the tool [47:04] by statute that we've be been given to work in and and we're we're doing the [47:10] best we can and I encourage anyone who has questions in specifics to first [47:18] listen to that budget category on the audio record. Just go to Cany County, [47:24] look at the commissioner's page, look at the agenda, and start searching back [47:29] through that date. Also, on this day's agenda, it will have within this packet, [47:35] it has all those dates or those meetings. So, you can get right to the [47:40] right date to the right time, find out the subject that you're most interested [47:44] in. And so I think that as far as I'm aware of, we have done the very best [47:51] that we could do to be as transparent as we can be. And so um can somebody have a [47:59] different opinion than mine? Absolutely. All day long. [48:04] So, I think that we've done uh an outstanding job and I think that our our [48:10] workers are some of the best and we've attempted to bring uh them up to market [48:15] rates which is critically important. You have a employee that's been here for [48:20] six, eight, 12 years and they're working for $10 an hour as an example and out in [48:26] the public sector they're working for 14 and we lose that long-term employee at [48:32] that dollar rate. We will never get them put back in. We have to match what the [48:37] market rate is. And we've attempted to do that over the last several years. and [48:43] uh Marty that's our HR director has worked tirelessly with us and so in [48:50] doing that adjustment we don't have we didn't end up with any [48:55] extra money for cola which is cost of living entries and a lot of counties and [49:02] a lot of public entities do colas and I would have loved to have done cola but [49:07] there wasn't enough funds to do a cola what we did as as Our interrum is our [49:13] health cost is going to go up. It it hasn't in the last several years, but [49:19] it's going to go up this year and it will likely continue to go up. And so we [49:24] voted to give the majority of the employees a $2,300 [49:32] onetime payment. out of the $2,300 each will get a little bit of a variance [49:39] because their personal tax status will be deducted out of the the $2,300. So in [49:47] in round numbers, they're getting approximately $2,000 to go towards those [49:53] increasing health care costs where we weren't able to give a raise. Do I like [49:58] that? No. It sucks, but that's the best we could do with what we've been handed. [50:06] And so, um, I I really appreciate the employees, and if I could have had a [50:12] cola of even a half percent or 1%, whatever that is, I would have tried to [50:18] have done that, but it was not there to have it. So, [50:23] my apologies, but I did the best that I know how to do. [50:31] So that's what I have. Do you have any comments, questions? [50:35] » Great comments and I appreciate all that you put on the record. That was a lot. I [50:38] do want to say that in fairness, the wages we've been trying to get to what [50:45] you've indicated is a fair market for retention. Um, again, Chief Hart is here [50:50] and we had this conversation during this budget. The amount that we were paying [50:55] officers was we were somewhere 56% retention. Extremely costly for the [51:00] taxpayers. Now we're up around 97%. Our numbers across the county are reflecting [51:05] that we are paying at the right level. And so [51:10] what we're that's going to say is that our a budget will start. It'll be a [51:14] neutral next year. We'll we'll punt the season at the same rate we are this [51:19] year. We've tried to mitigate that a little bit as you indicated on the [51:22] benefit side because we are looking at something that in the long run I believe [51:28] will be better and more friendly for the budget and the taxpayer. So wins in [51:34] there. I I think thankfulness is always a posture when we went through the co we [51:41] did not lay people off. We did not furlow people. we did not um fail to [51:48] to do our job. There were some difficult circumstances that were given to this [51:53] board. A reduction of $14 million by the previous board. I did not vote for that. [51:59] And an increase in salaries of $9 million. I did not vote for that because [52:03] I didn't pencil out. Not because we didn't have um the need, but because you [52:09] have to be able to balance the budget. At the same time during that period, [52:13] Chief Hart and his words predates him, but his team put together this [52:18] continuing law enforcement pay schedule for commissioned officers. There's a [52:22] commitment to support that to keep the command staff and public safety top [52:26] priority in Kenyon County and we are going to honor that and move forward. [52:31] There is value in it and the numbers are legitimate and solid. So all of that [52:37] a tremendous lift for Marty. Thank you for the work that you've done. It [52:43] it's it's been a great effort on your part and part of the team. So, as you [52:47] indicated, we've tried to mitigate the some of the downfalls of the budget [52:54] that we were given, but I think we've done a great job. I am proud to work [52:58] with Commissioner Brooks, Commissioner Bolton. It's been again a privilege to [53:02] be a part of this team. They're dedicated. They understand government [53:06] and they are here to move this county forward. singles is what we share. [53:13] » Mr. Chairman, [53:17] » I didn't have it on my public hearing bingo card that you were going to talk [53:21] more than commissioner, but here we are. [53:28] I say that I you're spot on. Your comments are are [53:34] well made. Um you take this position and you [53:40] understand that you have to play the the hand that you're dealt and good bad, [53:46] you just got to go forward with it. And fortunately, we have a lot of good [53:49] people around us uh that are very willing and capable to to do good work [53:57] and give us a lot of good information, advice on how to put this budget [54:02] together. So, normally I get a little nervous when we use the word we in this [54:07] process, but again, like I said earlier, uh at this point, we've had so many [54:13] meetings and discussions on the record that um it's my opinion, this budget is [54:18] what it is by the time we get to this point. And I actually appreciate that. [54:23] I've been coming to these off and on since I think 2016 and [54:30] I don't mind that it's not as contentious as some of those ones that I [54:34] came to a decade ago and you know they didn't they didn't follow that same [54:39] process that we have this year. I think it's very beneficial to to all of us. [54:46] It is. It is. And and uh you and I attend the Treasure Valley Partnership. [54:52] Commissioner Van gets to at times. And the price for admission has got to be an [54:58] elected official. And we were talking in the last two meetings about the turnout [55:04] in Treasure Valley in our political subdivisions on budget hearing. And it's [55:10] a weird phenomenon that you are an anomaly. How many people showed up [55:14] tonight? Let's put it that way. It's not uncommon for nobody to sh that's a sad [55:20] state of politics. Something that we might [55:26] another thing that I want to quickly u sometimes numbers are really hard to [55:31] grasp. So let's let's talk about the growth not this way. So let's say that [55:37] we have a we have a potluck. Who know who doesn't know what a potluck is? So [55:43] pot luck is when a group gets together and they say everybody bring enough food [55:47] for yourself and maybe some some people that are not as privileged as you to [55:52] have extra food. So you do it for 100 people but the rules somebody else [55:58] outside the rule said no you only bring food for 90. You're going to have 100 [56:05] people there but you're only bringing food for 90. And you keep doing that and [56:09] it keeps increasing and that 10% keeps growing to 20%, keeps growing, keeps [56:14] growing. Pretty soon you're going to be having a potluck and you're going to [56:18] have to decide what percentage of you is not going to get to eat. That's what [56:24] house 389 is doing to us. And next year will be the dividing year. And after [56:31] that, most likely it will be a few less patrolman. There'll be a few less here, [56:37] be a few less there. And I get it. There's people out there that hate taxes [56:42] so much that they don't care if the ambulance is not available on those 58 [56:48] times we saw on the screen. They don't care. And there's people out there that [56:52] don't care if there's one less patrol car, there's one less prosecutor, [56:56] there's one less whatever that is. And I really would encourage them to [57:01] reconsider that we have lived really well the way it is now and to start [57:07] defunding whether it's the police or something else is really not the best [57:14] method to take. Really isn't. And if you feel that way, why don't you come in and [57:18] attend some of our meetings and let's try to decide what we maybe could get or [57:24] we could we could make different choices on. I don't know, but it's going to [57:28] start coming down to choices. And I wanted to make that painfully clear at [57:33] this budget hearing because my suspicion is um it's going to be a little bit more [57:39] difficult this year. And so, not that I'm going to tell you I told you so, but [57:44] I might tell you I told you so. So, I really love to be proved wrong. Take it. [57:50] Take it away legislature. Get it done. That'd be great for me. All right. I'm [57:58] I think enough said [58:03] I'm interested in if you would like to deliberate towards making a decision on [58:10] we have three budgets. Um budgets are fascinating. Out of the 44 counties we [58:17] have more political subdivisions than any other county of the state. The next [58:22] closest one is Ada County. They have 40ish. We have 64. And what's a [58:28] political subdivision? Political subdivisions, anything from city, school [58:33] district, cemetery district, library district. It the list goes on for quite [58:39] a ways. And so county is pretty pretty blessed. We have we have like nine [58:45] school districts that encroach into Canyon County, but are outside of the [58:48] county with their school buildings. Uh we have most [58:55] of your property taxes have at least seven lines and most of them have more [59:02] than 10. And that's because where you choose to [59:06] live is a cross-section of four. You can think of it as this overlay zone. And so [59:11] you could be in this library district but you should not be in two. You should [59:16] be in this school district but not two. You should be in a cemetery district, [59:21] but not to but everybody's in King County's tax district. Everybody's in [59:28] the ambulance district. And from there, the divisions start. And so even within [59:35] Canyon County's taxi line, we have just as uh we have multiple ones that are [59:42] within that mill levy rate. What is a mill levy rate? Mill levy rate is the [59:48] net taxable value of all of those properties all out there divided by the [59:54] budget. That's your multiple of what it is. So when you look down through the [59:59] taxes it says the county is 0135 or whatever the number is. That's the [1:00:06] rate that you're looking. So you take that multiple [1:00:10] multiply it against the value net value of the property figure out what the [1:00:16] exact bill that you pay to county that you paid to the ambulance district or [1:00:21] you pay to the cemetery or you the library district whoever it is that's on [1:00:26] property tax. So tonight we're talking about three of [1:00:31] them, but I don't see Does anybody live here from Melba? See, nobody's here from [1:00:38] Melba. We're going to be dealing with theirs. You are not going to have that [1:00:41] on your property. And um so we're going to deal with with three. So which one [1:00:48] would you like to deal with right away first? [1:00:52] Let's do the big one. >> Do the big one. All right. So that's [1:00:55] that's Cany County. That would include like the jail, a sheriff, the uh lastly [1:01:02] assessor and department of service and and we have a we have a whole we [1:01:10] have 15 directors. Right. Right. Have 15 directors and you can look this up on [1:01:15] the internet. We got a great page that shows all of the trees, all of the all [1:01:20] of the way that lines out who's under who and who does what. And uh and if you [1:01:28] have an idea how we might be able to do that better, you can get a hold of Karen [1:01:32] Williams and he'll get on it. And he he's our he's our public guy. We our our [1:01:40] goal is to try to communicate as most effectively as we can and uh we try. [1:01:49] So Mr. Chairman, I have a question. >> Yes. Um, we have the dollar amounts for [1:01:56] these three budgets. Guess normally we have a resolution to go along with them [1:02:02] to refer to. So I don't [1:02:07] I don't want to do that. [1:02:12] We can just approve. [1:02:28] So, Mr. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we would approve the fiscal year 2026 [1:02:35] budget of 161,870,45 [1:02:44] say 44. [1:02:48] Okay. [1:02:52] All three together. >> Okay. [1:02:56] So there's there's [1:03:05] uh in included in that Mr. Chairman would be [1:03:09] I guess we didn't have discussion on this so I just take shot so we can shoot [1:03:13] it down. Uh that would include moving the 30,000 that was awarded for the [1:03:19] quiet zone rail crossings to be moved into our reserve fund. [1:03:26] Um, as well as part of this motion, I would [1:03:29] move that we approve the uh [1:03:35] budget for the Canyon County Pest Control of $369,563 [1:03:41] and the budget for Melba Gopher of $12,000. [1:03:48] Do we need to include the portions? [1:03:55] Make a motion. >> Okay. I will second chairman or [1:03:59] commission motion. >> So you read those [1:04:05] straight off the Mr. [1:04:11] » Okay. Very good. Okay. And you included your 30,000 if you wanted to change. [1:04:20] So yes. All right. I entertain a second. >> And I second. [1:04:24] » You did second. All right. >> All right. Motion has been made and [1:04:28] seconded for all three of those budgets. All those in favor say I. [1:04:32] » I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. So now [1:04:39] it would be best to Yeah, we had a So now it would be best [1:04:45] to make a motion to approve separately a motion. You could do all three. [1:04:55] So once the budget budget [1:05:00] Mr. Chairman, I move that we adopt uh the L2 worksheets that we have been [1:05:05] presented for the Canyon County for Canyon County for Noble Go for the [1:05:12] King County Pest control. >> I second. [1:05:16] » Okay. Motion's been made and seconded. All those in favor say I. [1:05:20] » I. >> I. I. Motion carries unanimous. [1:05:24] All right, Mr. Chairman. Yes. uh in [1:05:42] so for Mr. on the we've been provided it's [1:05:47] recovering 1% and I'm in favor of 1% [1:05:52] 3% 3% would be a larger dollar amount that [1:05:56] we could use for capital expenses but the 1% amount [1:06:01] [Music] that goes into the total base that we [1:06:05] can for next year and considering the uh the decision that was made [1:06:13] by two when commissioners before we took these seats. U [1:06:19] I it is my opinion that it it necessitates that we take the 1% for [1:06:24] them to try to claw back some of that which was not corrected before [1:06:31] we got here is causing some of the issues that that we are dealing with [1:06:35] today. Okay. [1:06:39] And that dollar amount Mr. chairman is $632,693. [1:06:45] Okay. There was a forgone amount for [1:06:56] it. Yes. Yes. Yes. So the go is $76 for [1:07:06] Oh, that's reserved. I'm sorry. >> Yes. That's the [1:07:13] » text. [1:07:16] I second the motion. [1:07:22] » Let's do these because two [1:07:27] back. So, Mr. Chairman, I move that. >> Okay. [1:07:34] » Mr. Chairman, I move that the um that we adopt [1:07:41] portion of the L2 considering recovered for gone of 1% in the amount of $632,693 [1:07:50] for the Ky County budget. >> I second. [1:07:53] » Okay. Motion has been made and second. All those in favor say I. [1:07:57] » I. I. Right. [1:08:04] » So, Mr. Mr. Chairman, I move that we reserve foregone for Mel Gopher in the [1:08:09] amount of $76. >> I second it. [1:08:13] » Okay. Motion's been made second. All those in favor say I. [1:08:16] » I. >> I. I. Motion carries unanimously. [1:08:21] Mr. Chairman, I move that we reserve uh the amount of $14,182 [1:08:29] and foregone for Kenny County Pest control. [1:08:33] » I second. Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. All those in favor say I. [1:08:38] » I. I. Motion carries. All right. [1:08:58] Do you see anything else that is left? [1:09:07] We've covered everything that's on the agenda. Is there any closing remarks? [1:09:26] » I think the clerk has some conation about something. [1:09:33] Okay, we can test later. Okay, [1:09:50] » chair move. >> Second. [1:09:52] » All right, motions been made and seconded for adjournment. All those say [1:09:56] in favor say I. I motion carries unanimous considering [1:10:24] So party.