[0:05] all this video i'm gonna call so early
the town council public place in town
[0:14] council hearing on the war to the pub
the final mission public hearing a
[0:35] regular session agenda for december 6
2016 robot burger okay here screw
[0:43] barracks Graham here let the record show
the Commissioner gospel perspective is
[0:51] no mention sir first order business this
commentary combination
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[1:58] just let's talk about do you think my
name is Joan general appearance picture
[2:08] off that porch as well Bruce and our son
Joe just going to preach here's like to
[2:16] just if you might comment on accessory
dwelling units look like you look at
[2:24] your watch in the mirror behind there is
always up a lot so space is not a
[2:29] problem the building will match the
prevailing style and character of our
[2:33] home we are going to have a small
efficiency apartment on the top of the
[2:39] garage for our son Joe and live the
apartment would be very modest with
[2:44] shower and toilet and bathroom and a
microwave and a small refrigerator
[2:50] Russia 20 yrs intellectually disabled
his birth mother abused alcohol
[2:56] resulting in his disability maybe you
know Joe his work at college pub for one
[3:02] year and now he works at those the
Christian school and campus furniture
[3:07] he's active in our community she's great
guy and we're hoping to provide a bit
[3:12] more independence by allowing you to
live on our property yet having is
[3:17] unsafe I am hoping the issue accessory
dwelling units would be approved on
[3:23] case-by-case basis and that there would
be a possibility for us to move forward
[3:27] with our plans to give our son a small
space about our proposed rock
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[5:15] sorry
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[5:42] probably for mr. Singh's foundational
liberty and justice for all we've had a
[6:05] request from one of the participants to
shuffle the agenda since we haven't
[6:13] worked public comment
[6:31] yes sir having issues with blue business
in front of old business yeah okay we
[6:56] have a motion to so second second home
favor I hey ho right new business sir
[7:08] again applications for conditional use
permit and second floor residential
[7:13] building sorry you have to do percent
[7:21] with your approval of the agenda format
you can weather is minutes and reports
[7:26] for observer reports I to answer the
standard for less any questions
[7:33] marketing mom do we have any corrections
in this motion to accept a minute sitter
[7:40] so Luke second phone favorite be both so
Carrie now I'm your business right
[7:55] you walk us through the enemy's general
we've received an application for
[7:59] conditional use for residential above
commercial Kellogg building and I am
[8:06] verifying that street address the
applicant as three things street I've
[8:12] also seen one big street so I will get
that straight looking forward to a
[8:18] public hearing notice and then you to
rejoin the tag number isn't ever going
[8:27] to tell us where it is right it's a
rather than straightforward application
[8:31] at this point downstairs is proposed to
be commercial which is like rightness in
[8:37] the commercial to history right and just
by the way one correction it's not
[8:42] similar language for conditional use
residential with the c1 it's identical
[8:47] language so the same provisions for
conditional use under open to see one
[8:54] district residential commercial a
plastic converted to district the
[9:00] application isn't born for the person
for to set up your gate of these that
[9:06] stays there is the basic difference c1
and c2 larger Lots it's the exact same
[9:12] uses the seam to incorporate soul to see
one uses and the condition deuces at the
[9:19] same as well so the only difference is
believe it or not foresee to district
[9:27] minimum lot of 6,000 square feet which
is larger than C
[9:44] do I have a motion to accept the
conditional use is written along with
[9:52] any adjustments necessary outlined by
the fire
[10:02] you want a motion yes yes second phone
favor alright continue boat so Carrie no
[10:15] problem Oh business
[10:27] yeah there's a sale on the line I'm just
this application for doing what you do
[10:50] and what's more the publication from our
very far to the game idea okay this man
[11:01] oh thank you but that kind of stuffy in
here so it'll be in the agenda
[11:31] the joint session our way back to
organize amendments to the town of Cape
[11:42] Charles comprehensive plan of dr.
january-june 11 2009 I thought over this
[11:48] and over this is known as we're talking
about town council is interested in
[11:54] amending detail council priority section
to remove the text that's there and to
[12:01] insert the text from their self
generated priority list from the town
[12:08] council priority set a goal setting
session that they will have on Saturdays
[12:14] we talked about okay yeah so only need
to do is make a hold on a new model is
[12:20] an awesome delhi to provide the text but
then okay everybody the Planning
[12:26] Commission you are correct or that's
looking neat that is what you need to do
[12:29] to remove the language they are which is
that succession of bullet points right
[12:37] to amend that that language to be struck
tend to be replaced with the priorities
[12:44] set by the town
path they are December can't do I have a
[12:53] motion oh not a second oh there I any
opposed right sadly this is I think this
[13:19] is a game that was this this is the
document review where we're going to go
[13:30] through and identify which you just say
and which he did the updated correct
[13:37] that was again a recommendation from
downtown salt no Sammy start from some
[13:42] image of some of the documents videos
for preparation of the company to plank
[13:48] so the oldest one on that list 1996
preservation plan the staff report gets
[13:56] into some of the values still the
perspiration plan but also the
[14:02] preparation for two dates for district
ordinance total awareness and also
[14:09] predates the historic district design
advice so some of those means a very
[14:15] good narrative of life on tonight
six it's a particularly forward-looking
[14:19] I from there I would have asked you to
give us a recommendation of your changes
[14:26] should be made we have a discussion
document we restore the concern from
[14:30] scratch I my regulations this whole
document should be archived okay archive
[14:37] ok I'm going to do a preservation plan
pretty much start from scratch for a
[14:44] preservation plan because this
preservation plan still talks about a
[14:48] whole range of issues that are no longer
practice again that's absolutely fair ok
[14:54] so there's something this time there's
some narrative Valley can you come up
[14:57] with a high level series of objectives
as you want to see in the new
[15:10] preservation plan that I'm going to a
cadet here any other interpretations I
[15:16] think this document did a good job of
subtleties that right
[15:19] patience okay what we haven't done in
years astronomers recommendations as a
[15:25] checklist to see specifically luggage as
we have done okay the things that
[15:30] happened obviously don't mean to be
dressed again right to sing haven't done
[15:34] should be assessed as to whether they
are still 20 years later priorities yep
[15:40] that's where I would start with a
preservation plan okay and perhaps get
[15:46] away from something area because we know
that the town was it is the housing
[15:50] stock was decided to control the
district yeah this was a different your
[15:54] deal how can we know for sure if that is
two conditions pleasure as an approach
[16:05] I'll begin to gather that information
okay get the recognition is that some of
[16:13] the regulations and just check them
against whispers that's actually happen
[16:16] and bring that back and I can't say
no work there it could give me 90 days
[16:26] ok I would like 90 days maybe 60 over 60
good we don't know nobody else is here
[16:34] hammering us we're not going to have you
[16:39] think is a very it's a legitimate point
that was born Olivia yes I'm sorry
[16:47] because if it's long enough that
particular section a little moment to it
[16:51] yes yeah yeah okay we need to do
anything else on this blessing
[16:58] interesting 20 mr. clocks are ticking
for another review of our car it's as
[17:05] soon as it's adapte right well it will
be as soon as bigger than wrecked
[17:15] everything nice and neat package council
passes you might think about starting
[17:20] this was three years old about you
usually yet expired okay so the value of
[17:32] these for occasion preservation
operating principle now need to wear the
[17:41] reinforcement over with whistle
[17:53] make sure there's no doubt of the
importance of that historic aspects
[18:01] we're on the Saturday night after that
filming all guys can was talking about
[18:07] how important that is how rare that is
kind of special that is but I imagine we
[18:14] don't believe that operated need any
bolstered a survey preservation plan
[18:23] some of the historic district holy
ordinance hasn't been looked at the
[18:30] Commission's interest or pleasure and
concerning bring that along as well and
[18:34] dream us mr. review with the city that
required a text amendments already
[18:41] updating earth in tax efficient because
it has ended up dating a lot last time I
[18:47] think this delivery was when they were
started going through with the
[18:50] commercial property was bad at that town
now before i go over four years ago I
[19:00] want to sleep I don't question and
address the coding you included the
[19:07] internet talk it up certain on himself
had to be in the comprehensive point now
[19:12] say specifically some of the maps and
stuff we covered with a more powerful
[19:20] well if we will never adopted his own
neck too
[19:26] recognized especially something
different the districts are an app that
[19:34] was included toppling with some of the
parcels of a long directory we better
[19:38] stop right right right right for the
district's the districts are accurate is
[19:45] it an interesting extending the historic
that means here the learner the grain
[19:55] truck parts or resources was to update
the server that grant will expire
[20:01] natural then next fiscal year will be
another grand inform it doubly favorable
[20:11] foods is affixed to a network which
would be historical no strikes everyone
[20:21] is that the Rosenwald school was out of
food
[20:27] it's not for people to the district but
its historical so thank you so the only
[20:34] thing that town council now is concerned
about is the really the priority
[20:43] straight line tonight without it it's
for the compound which does need work to
[20:48] dr. wait rakesh yeah what revision list
of a right but as long as they know that
[21:01] we're working on those I'm sure they mr.
did agree on it fit reported to counsel
[21:11] my expectation of the relation with
those the capital would you prove a
[21:16] project i hope the capital plan to you
the january
[21:23] for this month or fraction of those
priorities are get to come should never
[21:30] hear this yeah do we need it okay do we
need to take any motion direction on
[21:39] this okay not really the 1996 document
can be for lack of a better word archive
[21:48] for now it's the idea that staff brings
back gift recommendations for a future
[21:55] update of that document and it's
absolutely I wish then we'll miss
[21:59] alleles I think that makes only system
that'll close what I would like to do
[22:03] please help educate or 1 comment
to understand the process because she's
[22:12] still here she doesn't understand how we
work can you help top do you want to
[22:19] close off stuff like this thing is
important yes that was where I was
[22:24] headed
[22:29] emotion do think that that okay chi Chi
a motion on how to for him to proceed
[22:38] according to what he stated these going
to do which is archived way NGS 90 days
[22:43] to preserve us with new one with a
reservation would see 20 says yes Oh
[22:51] correct yes I make that much second Oh
big family hey I'm sorry opposed no
[23:02] sorry okay that's serious or tomorrow
[23:12] can you help the student you understand
the processes yes the comprehensive plan
[23:19] is written includes a recommendation
that accessory dwelling units are
[23:27] advisable for the town cape charles the
zoning ordinance specifically pretty
[23:35] this dwelling units in accessory
buildings so there's a disconnect
[23:40] typically the zoning ordinance and
comprehensive plan are in alignment this
[23:45] is one of those points were they part
[23:49] the nectar 2009 country has a plan talk
about accessory dwelling units that was
[23:54] as a result of the 2006 study a belief
that was around town that assess
[24:01] accessory dwelling
in Cape Charles and was favorable for
[24:07] summer so that one in the 2009 plans
which is the current plan until council
[24:13] adopts to the one ideally I have a 1515
for this month so the language accessory
[24:19] dwelling units hasn't changed for the
town's long-range planning for a period
[24:23] of at least seven years partly water
tanners I don't have any funny but I
[24:30] believe was 2010 or 2011 when the
council voted it has existed voluminous
[24:37] the CAF town council that's how i've
already danced them and there's been no
[24:42] movement forward to the name what to
reconcile what planning commission again
[24:49] this extensive three year plus long
process of amending the comprehensive
[24:56] plan the issue never came up with
something that this not one sweet brick
[25:02] but that this commission was opposed to
about a year and half ago was early my
[25:08] finger here middle of the summer 2015
there was the Commission repulsed and
[25:16] the conditions that are rich major
proposed in 2006 for accessory dwellings
[25:22] and make some revisions it wouldn't be
fight right easily by conditional use so
[25:29] that still doesn't be an application
this public hearing plenty condition
[25:34] would recommend to the town council of
town council on a case-by-case basis was
[25:38] decided that properties appropriate
first condition use the same way which
[25:42] you've been breakfast
[25:45] they were there was room limitations for
a square footage others requirement to
[25:52] have separate ordered some connection if
i'm not mistaken correct and because you
[25:57] realize can get for impressive water
connection particular it wouldn't be a
[26:01] tap off of the house that would be a
separate meter and a number of other
[26:09] provisions as far as builders well the
party's on that going to get the
[26:17] building code or not that separate
entrance so if it's above a garage you
[26:21] can't enter the garage bays and then go
upstairs as a separate entrance all the
[26:27] building codes for safety is concerned
stairs railing settling so that's that's
[26:33] where that stands if i'm not mistaken in
november of last year there was a joint
[26:40] work session between the council and a
planning commission where accessory
[26:44] dwelling knew this was one of the items
a lot of tourism zone I'm Nessa stated
[26:50] and that preceded no further than at the
time so here we are comprehensive plan
[27:01] through this process with the Planning
Commission and the language for thee
[27:07] existed Welling units still in there as
a preferred option for affordable
[27:13] housing tennis dispenses ominous total
prohibition from his own darkness so
[27:20] that would be an amendment to the zoning
ordinance to allow accessory dwelling
[27:28] units in accessory accessory buildings
that text amendment would require any
[27:36] public hearing two public hearings or
ideally adjoint public hearing of the
[27:41] town council recommendation from
Planning Commission and action on the
[27:46] town council to amend the zoning
ordinance because it isn't the
[27:50] comprehensive plan it's dissolving
organs with the prohibitions ordinances
[27:55] lot of planets a plane hit enforce a law
but design orders as well stands so
[28:01] that's why we had no assessment wellness
in the count each other the other you
[28:07] mentioned before just be very careful as
you proceed down you mentioned the word
[28:13] affordable and mentioned separate
separate major there's a disconnect
[28:19] right there so be very careful when you
look at the numbers is this something
[28:24] you really want to do I know I know your
hearts in this but you have a finances
[28:29] to make this happen and that's how my
business I'm just saying pay attention
[28:33] to what you sit what is saying someone
was on saying and I think it isn't rest
[28:39] the definition of affordable affordable
housing young n kinda came to know real
[28:44] conclusion of it you know how the 2009
plane bound up as well yeah so
[28:50] affordable is perhaps an idea or the
[28:57] domain can be changed but some of these
things are there for a reason we're
[29:07] going community we try to do the best
for chemical we've got we're trying to
[29:11] make sure that one of the things that
this this body yes what what is it is
[29:21] inaccessible publix of this passage able
to defend each and every decision it
[29:28] submits to counsel we are legally
required to follow a very specific
[29:38] process so we can't just willing to
leave / running off doing something odd
[29:45] we're in a Dillon state so we're only
allowed to do with those things which
[29:48] the state gives us the right to do so
it's going with both eyes vitalize I say
[29:56] okay thank you sir really appreciate I
hope you have a better understanding
[30:03] that's about
[30:12] so in 2006 report reported acquittal
fourth I know we haven't looked at it
[30:18] awhile this is a solid report this takes
into consideration the rights of
[30:24] property owners own right attentional
attacks especially on traffic yeah we do
[30:31] what we think they sense from safety
perspective and we're not trying to be
[30:38] marginal deputies we just want to keep
everything safe everybody to live here
[30:42] yeah I think barking was an issue to as
I recall right we got stuff do we have
[30:48] to comply with the law street parking
requirements and you can also sustain
[30:53] such a lot that you can do okay there
there um that's where conditional use
[31:10] becomes can become your friend because
but it depends on what you're willing to
[31:19] proffer in in the garden working out
both of which what you want versus what
[31:29] the common wats take a lot to stay but I
think conditional use goes with the
[31:35] property all set so if you my friend
yeah it does yes if you were to move the
[31:41] next person
ya later date they would have on it on
[31:47] the generation corporations can
sometimes take advantage of a condition
[31:57] used because they can pop for some
benefits to the government organization
[32:05] and return for some some conditional
groups that they want to see how
[32:09] individual does so much but they don't
have such hope you found this yes I'll
[32:44] go if you are so inclined by the date
start this review board meeting next
[32:50] Tuesday night and is very building a
meeting starts at five to consider the
[32:54] applications but at six of Marcus collar
of the consultant from the state of what
[33:01] a frightening song but what the state
range will be in this room to talk about
[33:05] the update to the historic district
survey and answer any questions about
[33:10] anyone's blood rotation
for those of you who are living in
[33:15] historic in historic district if your
home is a historic home and you've got
[33:20] some interests or questions about your
own particular property bring the
[33:24] documentation talk to Marcus they're
trying to get it as accurate assessment
[33:29] of Pete Holmes in historic buildings and
historic district as well as possible so
[33:34] I think that's going to be fun and
informative anyway for those living in
[33:42] the instructors to make salsa our
surgery was making 89 yeah so a few
[33:48] things have changed in the old town
between 1985 into 7 30 12 thinks there's
[33:54] no changing yes colors of facades are
changing they could be demolished yeah
[34:03] it's just a public event that follows
the historic meeting that day for
[34:07] everybody it is the last item on the
agenda so what people of course walk
[34:11] into these are five Phil here the
regular applications move forward one of
[34:17] those 41 days and a leading commercial
improvement to the mobile gas station
[34:24] books which is very quite something when
it's when it's done and long bacon and
[34:33] almost a laugh a dated house on King
Street under our plum street which is if
[34:39] you go to our world feral cats are in
town oh then house is scheduled to be in
[34:45] food is convergys by a student went
through now it says 535 535 home across
[34:53] the street from must be visited by some
beer another equally necklet is really
[35:01] the right next to this graph yeah those
are two applications we've got once
[35:14] that's business is stacked with then mr.
pollow's reputation that's why what
[35:21] happened
anything else joined a motion to adjourn
[35:26] I make a wish to return home bigger any
post-assad I said