[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:01] Good evening. It's 6 o'clock and we will call the Carbondale City Council meeting to order. First on the agenda is roll call, please. [0:09] Council Member Colombo. [0:12] Present. [0:12] Council Member Kilman. [0:14] Present. [0:15] Council Member Lowes. [0:17] Present. [0:19] Council Member Maxwell. [0:21] Present. [0:22] Council Member Roberts. [0:23] Present. [0:24] Council Member Stanfield. [0:26] Present. [0:27] Mayor Harvey. [0:28] Present. [0:29] and next on the agenda, citizens comments and questions. [0:35] City council meetings are deliberative sessions [0:38] by members of the governing body. [0:40] Civility and decorum are expected [0:43] and will be required at all times. [0:46] Public comment is encouraged at all public meetings, [0:49] but the primary purpose of the meeting is for the council [0:52] to discuss and determine public policy for the city. [0:56] Members of the public may address the city council [0:58] during the public comment agenda item [1:01] for only those items that are relevant to city business such as information about city events. [1:08] Issues that the municipality has the authority to address, previously debated items, [1:14] and items that the council may consider in the future. [1:18] The mayor shall strictly restrain comments and questions to matters that are relevant to city business [1:23] and shall not permit repetitious comments. [1:26] All other agenda items will also include an opportunity for public comments in accordance [1:33] with the rules adopted and codified by the city council. [1:37] Speakers should wait to be recognized before they proceed to the podium and should begin [1:42] their statement by first stating their name and whether or not they are resident of the [1:47] city. [1:48] A speaker who represents an organization or other person must identify the organization [1:53] or person. [1:54] Public comments are to be directed to the city council as a whole and not to individual councilmembers or individual city staff. [2:04] The city council and staff are not required to respond to comments and questions. [2:09] Speakers may comment up to four minutes per item once per person. [2:13] No speaker may give their allotted minutes to another person or group. [2:17] A maximum of 30 minutes will be permitted for public comments and a maximum of 20 minutes [2:23] per agenda item will be allowed for public comments on all of the items except public hearings. [2:29] Are there any citizens who wish to comment? [2:34] Mr. Cooper? [2:49] My name is James Cooper Jr., Carbondale Citizen. [2:51] I'm a medical discharge diagnosed with asthma, mental health disorders, disabled, afro-american [2:54] retic. [2:55] I want to thank anyone, black, white, brown and others, continuing to stand up [2:58] for democracy. [2:59] I have a mixture of a question or two prepped by a brief comment or to what I say is city business first amendment [3:04] Right freedom speech my speech is well under four minutes allowed for each of the speak [3:08] This is an update from last 16 city council meetings [3:12] I've received no summits appearing court from Jackson County court knowing the rest of me regarding the February 22nd 2018 [3:18] Carpenter police report against me saying I'm breaking the law. I dispute it for the wreck for the public TV [3:24] audience and city council. Simple question. Respectfully, what's the reason why [3:28] Carminell Black Preachers, Carminell NAACP, say they offer everyone's due process, [3:32] law rights, equal rights, and against discrimination, haven't demanded slash [3:37] assisted in writing as I requested that Jackson County court prosecutors and [3:41] judges to exonerate me or take me a black man to jury trial regarding the [3:46] 1992 Jackson County wrongful case against me, etc. This is city business. [3:51] the city council. The FBI [3:53] headquarters in Washington DC [3:55] internal revenue service. [3:57] Jackson County State [3:57] Attorney Marcia Case, Ohio [3:58] Carminell City Manager, U.S. [4:00] Attorney for the Southern [4:01] District of Illinois. Illinois [4:02] Governor J.B. Pritzker, Carminell [4:04] NAACP, Carminell Police Chief, [4:07] Carminell Postmaster, Jackson [4:08] County Court Christian Hill, [4:10] Carminell Black Churches and [4:11] others are being certified mail [4:12] from Carminell Post Office [4:14] for court records and others. [4:15] My October 27, 2025 declaration [4:18] after David that I, James [4:19] James Cooper, Jr. was told by a library resource that various white [4:22] thoughts told Carmelette NWSP, Carmelette Black Preachers, being [4:26] intimidated and scared to shut up, don't talk against white [4:29] authorities to continue allowing me, black men, to be [4:33] persecuted by authorities and if they're being together and [4:36] assist the man in writing as I requested to Jackson County [4:40] Court prosecutors and judges to immediately summons me to [4:43] Jackson County Court and design them or take me to the [4:46] jury trial regarding the 1992 Jackson County Rome for [4:48] excuse me, case number 92 CF-85. [4:51] The file, Carminell Police Report, [4:52] they would kill them too. [4:55] This is a copy of that affidavit. [5:01] Also included with my October 27th affidavit [5:04] for records for the FBI, Carminell, NAACP, [5:07] all Carminell Black Churches, Carminell, [5:08] City Mans, Carminell Police, the courts [5:10] and others are copies of the Jackson County Court [5:12] Dock Sheet Entrance, case number 92 CF-85 [5:15] as follows, 926 Docket Entry, [5:18] my September 22nd, 2025 Declaration Affidavit. [5:21] that some Jackson County court judge and prosecutors U.S. Attorney for some just [5:24] Illinois Stephen White winehole a racist and others operate like they include [5:29] clubs plan still trying to frame me James Cooper junior for any felony to [5:33] keep hitting the mask cover-up of me by the director and assistant director the [5:37] 1992 Jackson County room for conviction against me case number 92 CF 85 [5:42] involvement process to a misunderstanding this copy of that [5:45] Dr. Sheet. And the 715.2025 Dr. Sheet entrance to my June 21st, 2025 declaration of affidavit that [5:56] U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Illinois Stephen Wynnehoff and other [5:59] authorities have several Carmeldale Post Office employees and others in on the [6:03] corruption against me who are submitting statements for an affidavit for [6:05] search warrant although no crime to try to justify to a judge to issue an [6:09] illegal search warrant on my resident and go on a fishing exhibition for the [6:13] right violation and my June 23rd 2025 decorations that I told the FBI, Illinois [6:19] State Police and other authorities their confidential informants in on [6:23] corruption and others that my fifth amendment right is invoked at all times [6:26] maybe me being subject to the state and federal prosecution slash [6:30] persecution since for any felony including tax evasion these copy of [6:35] those doc doc sheet entries question [6:40] didn't some authorities go all around [6:42] Complaining making a big shout now see it work it out. That's county juror trial or is on rate me immediately [6:49] All glory goes God. Thank you. [6:55] Anyone else? [6:56] Yes, [7:00] no, no, no in the back [7:08] Hello, I'm Jennifer Lampkins. I am a resident of carbonyl and today I'm representing carbonyl United [7:13] We are having a free day drive [7:17] And we are collecting items from now until November 10th such things as hats and gloves hand warmers [7:23] hand sanitizer, duffel bags, blankets, sleeping bags, [7:26] clothing, shoes and boots, tents, small furniture, [7:29] toiletries, coats and jackets, household items and toys. [7:32] This will be for our free community day, [7:35] which will be Saturday, November 15th [7:37] at the Collaboration Center in Carbondale. [7:40] Homeless services will be from 11 to one [7:42] and that will include a hot meal, warm clothes, [7:45] hygiene kits, resources and referrals, [7:47] support and compassion. [7:49] Community services will be from one to four [7:51] for free groceries, community resources, raffle prizes, winter items and local [7:56] agencies and vendors. Let us come together and uplift our community. Thank you. [8:01] Okay, now Erika. [8:10] I'm Eric Bukers. I live here in Carbondale and I am speaking [8:15] today on behalf of the homeless community within Carbondale. Could you [8:19] adjust the mic please? Is that better? Okay, I'm speaking today on behalf of the [8:25] homeless community in Carbondale here. The first thing I'd like to address is [8:29] the recent escalation and aggression toward the homeless that has been going [8:35] on with city workers and the police. I've witnessed the systematic dehumanization [8:42] of the most vulnerable social strata of our society. My own home that I've been [8:49] living in since March was Bulldozed just last week and I don't even know [8:54] how many others were along with it. [9:00] We're told this is due to the refuse that accumulated, [9:03] but the truth of the matter is the garbage they came to clean [9:07] out was us. [9:09] We were the trash that those bulldozers were meant to clear. [9:15] And [9:17] despite all of that, we still continue to exist. [9:21] We're here. [9:22] Nothing has changed. [9:24] The only thing that changes is that we are now [9:27] scattered and dislodged from any sense of safety. So we come back to the same [9:35] question that I've been asking all year. Where do we go? [9:42] It's amazing how this [9:44] simple little question often stymies and stumps those that I ask. It doesn't [9:52] It doesn't seem like it should be that complicated, but I've even heard a member of the Carbondale [9:59] Police Force bluntly respond to it, not Carbondale. [10:04] That's deplorable. [10:06] It's disgusting and shameful in my mind. [10:13] I've been threatened to be banned from all city property simply for asking for some [10:21] documentation. This is ridiculous. [10:26] Anyone I ask this question to that actually tries [10:29] to give a reasonable answer gives me one of four or four basic answers to this. There's [10:37] good Sam, good Samaritan task, the warming center and the coalition for the homeless. [10:44] Now don't get me wrong these are all valuable resources and I'm not saying that there's [10:50] anything necessarily wrong with them, but they are not a complete safety net and plenty of [10:55] people fall through the cracks of these services. Good Sam is nearly always at full capacity. [11:06] Task and the coalition are helpful, but slow at best and often wind up coming to dead [11:15] ends anyway. And the warming center, we don't even know when or in what kind of capacity [11:22] it's going to open up. So there's a lot of brick work that we're running into trying [11:31] to find these services that help. So again, I'm pleading, trying out to anyone with [11:39] authority to do anything, where do we go? How much taxpayer money is wasted every year [11:46] in the asinine harassment and dislodging of unhoused people? Also, let's not even begin [11:53] to discuss how incredibly unconstitutional this all becomes when you consider the BRHA [11:59] or the IHRA, the Bill of Rights for the Homeless Act and the Illinois Human Rights [12:04] But alas, I'm not here bringing attorneys to sue for damages. [12:10] No, I'm here asking for basic human dignity and decency to not be persecuted simply for being unhoused. [12:21] The right to merely exist. [12:24] Every faith on earth preaches kindness to the poor. [12:30] Is yours any different? [12:33] There are thousands of ways. [12:37] If you agree with what was said, could you please stand? [12:46] Thank you. [12:47] Thank you for your time. [12:51] Anyone else? [12:53] Okay. [13:00] Hello. [13:01] My name is Victor Ludwig. [13:02] I'm not a resident, but I am your neighbor. [13:07] There's not much more to say than that other than this. [13:10] No more encampment sweeps. [13:12] It solves nothing. [13:13] It achieves nothing. [13:14] It hurts. [13:15] It damages. [13:16] is a clause at the sole of all involved. [13:19] So that's all I'm going to say. [13:21] No more encampment sweeps, because in the lack [13:26] of a comprehensive plan, we can at least [13:28] have comprehensive compassion. [13:30] Thank you. [13:31] Anyone else? [13:32] Oh, wait, please don't clap. [13:35] If you agree with what Victor said, please stand. [13:37] Clapping is not a difference. [13:40] Thank you so much. [13:43] OK, anyone else? [13:45] Okay. Next on the agenda. Council comments, general announcements and proclamations. Let's [13:53] start on my right, Ms. Kielman. [13:59] Yeah. No. Ms. Maxwell? Ms. Roberts? No. [14:06] I don't want [14:07] to come back, but okay. Mr. Colombo. I'll be brief. I set my business cards out there [14:14] on the chairs this evening so that if you have ideas, if you have concerns, if you have [14:20] any feelings in general around how we are engaging with our homeless population in Carbondale, [14:25] I'd love to hear from you. [14:27] In just the past couple days, I've had an opportunity to engage our city manager, mayor, [14:31] and a couple of other staff regarding what a comprehensive homelessness action plan [14:36] might look like for Carbondale, and that includes your input and your contributions. [14:43] So please be in contact. I appreciate your time. [14:48] Mr. Loth. [14:50] Can we get an update from staff about what actually happened with respect to the encampment and who. [15:02] Was manning the bulldozers, staffing the bulldozers? [15:06] If they're referring to the relocation that occurred a couple weeks ago, that was a direct [15:12] result of private property owners who decided that they wanted to clean out their privately [15:18] owned property. And the police department was contacted as a result of they were bringing [15:23] in equipment to execute their plans to clean that up. And there were people that [15:27] refused to allow them to bring their equipment onto their own privately owned land. So the [15:32] The police department went, assisted them with getting onto their property, and was forced [15:38] to provide warnings to individuals that if they did not leave, they could be subject [15:41] to arrest for trespassing. [15:45] And just so I'm clear, there was no sweep by city staff of anything? [15:50] City did not initiate the removal of anyone. [15:56] The city provided notice so that everyone had an ample opportunity to know that the [16:01] The property owners were coming in there to do that work and they decided based on the [16:07] conditions of their property that that's the response they wanted to have. [16:12] Thank you. [16:13] I know that those things do happen with some cities, some places, but not here. [16:18] And I do also appreciate how much some people enjoy cosplay and LARPing, but this is not [16:27] the place for it. [16:28] I [16:37] don't encourage that behavior, and [16:43] you know it's great and it's wonderful that we sit and [16:52] listen to you, but you cannot stay and listen to us. [16:56] No comments, please. [16:59] Mr. Los, were you done? [17:01] Yes, I was actually done. [17:03] Mr. Sandfield. [17:06] No. [17:07] Okay. [17:08] Oh, I'm sorry, Ms. Roberts. [17:10] even though everybody just left. [17:13] I still want to say this, and I'm sorry that people decided to leave [17:18] instead of sticking around to have good conversations around this [17:23] because there are good conversations happening around this issue. [17:28] And I want to begin by recognizing the difficult and complex conversations [17:32] that our community has had around homelessness and housing, obviously. [17:36] These discussions have shown just how deeply [17:39] Carbondale residents care about helping those in crisis [17:43] while also preserving safe and livable neighborhoods. [17:47] It's important that we take what we've learned [17:49] from everything we've all been through [17:51] and channel this energy into solutions [17:54] that are realistic, transparent, and effective. [17:59] Homelessness remains a serious challenge, [18:02] not only in Carbondale but throughout Southern Illinois, [18:05] well, I mean really throughout the nation, but in our vicinity throughout the region. [18:11] And it requires a coordinated regional response. [18:15] A lot of that work is already happening. [18:18] Organizations such as BOOTS, SI, a coalition of more than 30 Southern Illinois nonprofits [18:24] that are focused on housing insecurity, Take Action Today, which recently convened [18:29] a regional homelessness summit in West Frankfurt, the Southern Illinois Coalition for the [18:34] homeless and veterans focused organizations such as Project Die Hard are already developing [18:41] partnerships that a regional task force would require. Our goal should be to build on these [18:48] efforts and strengthen collaboration across city and county lines. Homelessness doesn't [18:55] stop at borders and neither should our compassion and our planning. The engagement I've seen [19:01] shows how deeply people care about helping others [19:05] and also about maintaining safe, livable neighborhoods. [19:08] I hope that those seeking to help the unhoused [19:11] can also shift their energy now [19:13] towards regional cooperation and solutions. [19:17] Thank you. [19:18] Ms. Kielman. [19:21] So as we all know, SNAP and link benefits [19:23] are not going to be dispersed on November one. [19:26] That's an impending perspective reality [19:29] that is harrowing to so many in our community and a few days ago I asked the city manager [19:34] to look into what means were available legal or otherwise for us to engage with this impending [19:42] issue and he was very thorough in his response tracking down all sorts of lines of inquiry [19:51] into specifically something that I'd asked is whether or not we could maybe mandate [19:57] that grocers provide out of date or soon to be expired foods directly into the [20:03] hands of food banks prior to disposal. And it looks like a number of our [20:09] grocers are already doing that. Kroger and Schnooks currently donate to their [20:14] food pantries and other food pantries on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. On [20:19] Fridays, Walmart also makes good donations to the Good Samaritan and [20:23] and Victory Dream Center, [20:26] there are grocery stores that we could work on, that we should [20:32] encourage as a community to make donations of their soon to be expired food. [20:38] Food insecurity is going to be an ever more pressing issue, especially as things get colder, [20:44] as more people are off work due to the federal shutdown, as economic conditions deteriorate, [20:51] And as we continue to work on but not achieve solving problems like poverty and homelessness, [20:59] which we obviously have a very, very complicated but necessary to engage with situation. [21:06] And so I wanted to brief you all that I am working on it. [21:12] I will be reaching out and touching base with all of my colleagues on it over the [21:16] coming weeks. But I did want to keep the community informed that that is a line of thought that [21:21] we're pursuing at the city. [21:28] Next on the agenda, Consent Agenda please, Mr. Reno. [21:33] Item 3.1 is approval of City Council meeting minutes from October 14, 2025. Item 3.2 is [21:39] approval of a warrant for period ending October 10, 2025 for FY26, warrant number 1522 and [21:45] the total amount of $2,670,669.48. [21:50] Item 3.3 is an approval of Wells Fargo warrant for the period [21:54] ending September 30th, 25 for FY26 warrant number [21:57] 09, 2025 in the amount of $172,361.26. [22:03] Item 3.4 are appointments and reappointments [22:06] to boards and commissions. [22:07] Item 3.5 is a resolution authorizing the city manager [22:10] to execute an engineering agreement with TWM, [22:13] Incorporated of Swansea, Illinois, [22:14] in the amount of $58,251 for the design of Phase 2 Northwest Bike Trail from New Arrow [22:21] Road to East Airport Road. [22:23] Item 3.6 is an ordinance approving a budget adjustment to increase the CIP Local Improvement [22:28] Fund budget, adding CIP PB2602, furnishing and installing a new RTU at the Police Department [22:35] and award of purchase and installation of a new rooftop AC unit RTU at the Police [22:40] Department to Southern Illinois piping contractors of Carbondale in the amount of [22:44] one hundred twenty four thousand five hundred fifty dollars item three point [22:47] seven is approval of the listed consent agenda items thank you is there an item [22:54] that any council member has a question about or needs pool okay is there a [23:01] motion for consent agenda yes miss Gilman I move that we approve all [23:07] consent agenda items. Ms. Roberts. I second that. Any questions from council or discussion? [23:15] Questions or discussion from citizens? Roll call please. [23:23] Councilmember Colombo. Yes. [23:27] Councilmember Kilman. Yes. Councilmember Lowe. Yes. Councilmember Maxwell. Yes. [23:37] Councilmember [23:38] Mr. Stanfield. [23:39] Yes. [23:41] Mayor Harvey. [23:42] Yes, and that motion passes. [23:44] Next, we have General Beasness of the City Council. [23:47] Item 4.1, please. [23:49] Item 4.1 is in ordinance adopting a new comprehensive plan [23:52] for the City of Carbondale. [23:54] Plan Carbondale was recommended to be adopted [23:56] as Carbondale's comprehensive plan [23:57] by the Planning Commission at their August 13, 2025 meeting. [24:01] The plan was then presented to the City Council [24:03] on August 26, 2025. [24:05] The attached edits and additions [24:06] have been made to the plan in response to comments and requests for more information from council. [24:11] Information that has been added includes the city's most recent interest in the dark skies initiative, [24:16] more detail on park land acreage, and appendix referencing other city plans and data sources that inform the plan document. [24:23] All changes have been deemed by staff to be in keeping with the overarching goals and intent of the plan, [24:30] so as not to require another public hearing and review by the planning commission. [24:34] The plan can be found online at plancarbondale.com and there are attachments with the revised [24:39] plan. [24:41] The recommended action. [24:45] The recommended action is to approve an ordinance adopting a new comprehensive plan for the [24:49] City of Carbondale. [24:50] Is there a motion from Council? [24:52] Mr. Colombo. [24:54] I would move that we approve an ordinance adopting a new comprehensive plan for the [24:58] City of Carbondale. [24:59] Is there a second? [25:00] Mr. Stanfield. [25:01] I'll second that. [25:03] Any discussion from Council? [25:04] So, Mr. Roberts. [25:06] I was lucky enough to be on the committee for this, [25:09] and working with Molly Maxwell, [25:13] I don't know how to officially address you, [25:17] but for spearheading this enormous project [25:20] was an excellent experience for me, [25:24] and I think that the group came up [25:27] and the committee ended up with a really excellent [25:36] Plan so I am glad that we are here. Thank you for all the work you've done and I appreciate you adding on all the extras [25:43] I requested other comments from council on this side [25:51] Comments or questions from citizens roll call, please [25:56] Councilmember Colombo [25:58] Yes [26:00] Councilmember Killman. Yes [26:02] Councilmember Lowes. Yes [26:05] Councilmember Maxwell [26:08] Council Member Roberts. Yes. Council Member Stanfield. Yes. Mayor Harvey. Yes, and that [26:18] motion passes. Next is item 4.2. Mr. Reno. Item 4.2 is an ordinance establishing a portion [26:25] of the east side of North Robert A. Stahl's Avenue from the Sycamore Street to East Large [26:29] Street as a no parking zone. The community development staff is proposing that the [26:34] block of Robert A. Stahl's Avenue between East Sycamore Street and East [26:38] Large Street be designated as a no parking zone. Staff receive several [26:41] complaints concerning traffic being restricted on this block to one lane [26:45] due to people parking on both sides of North Robert A. Stahl's. The width of the [26:49] pavement in this area is approximately 30 feet. By the time a car [26:52] parks on the east and west sides of the street in this block, the usable [26:56] width of the road is reduced to less than 15 feet. Drivers do not feel safe [27:00] using the road for two-way traffic when such parking is present. The [27:03] The inability for two cars to pass has led to traffic congestion at times and complaints [27:07] from motorists to city staff. [27:09] Other parts of Robert Estall's have signage designating no parking or have no issues due [27:13] to residents as having sufficient off-street parking. [27:16] This section of road is well-traveled with New Zion Church located in the adjacent block [27:20] to the south in the Irma Hayes Community Center in the next block south. [27:24] Numerous residents are in the neighborhood as well, including several Jackson County [27:28] Housing Authority residents. [27:30] I think that is not a true street which has the condition this particular block staff [27:35] is trying to rectify the situation by speaking with residents about the parking habits there [27:40] in an opera vehicles and commercial vehicles being parked there. [27:43] His attempt is not always been successful. [27:45] Therefore staff request the designation of a no parking zone order to facilitate safe [27:50] to a traffic. [27:52] The city code also addresses this issue in section seventeen dash eight dash three [27:56] in relation to pavement with parking. [27:58] Parking section 3 of that reads if the current average daily traffic count at the time of [28:03] the completion of the improvement on a local street consists of 1000 vehicles per day or [28:08] less and parallel parking is allowed on both sides of the street the minimum width for such [28:12] street must be 34 feet which width shall be determined as set forth in section a [28:17] one of the section of the code while that particular code section addresses rebuilt [28:22] or repaired street staff feels it is a good measure of the proper street width for streets [28:25] with parallel parking. Feedback from members of the neighborhood and the New Zion Church [28:29] Pastors indicates support for this modification to the on-street parking. The recommended [28:34] action is to approve an ordinance establishing a portion of the east side of North Robert [28:38] Estall's Avenue from East Sycamore Street to East Large Street as a no parking zone. [28:42] Is there a motion? [28:46] Ms. Kilman. [28:47] I move we approve an ordinance establishing a portion of the east side of North Robert [28:51] Estall's Avenue from East Sycamore Street to East Large Street as a no parking [28:56] the parking zone. Thank you. Is there a second? Mr. Maxwell. I second that. In a discussion [29:02] from council, Mr. Stanfield. Yeah, why is that particular spot designated for no parking [29:10] happen? Why is that particular spot a problem? It really relates to the on street parking [29:17] that exists there for some particular residents that have more vehicles than they have parking [29:22] allowed for it. They're personal residences. So we've just received a lot of feedback from [29:28] community members there that especially when it's dark and when there's busier times, Sundays, [29:34] for church and things, it's very difficult for two-way traffic to move through there. [29:40] Thank you. [29:41] Mr. Colombo. [29:43] And this is kind of a follow-up question to that. When I travel through there, it [29:48] seems that there's kind of one particular set of vehicles that may belong to just [29:52] a single individual or a company or something like that, trailers and other items seemed [29:56] like that was causing some of this congestion. Is that relatively accurate? [30:00] Is it accurate that this is kind of an impact of one or two individuals, not abundance of [30:04] folks that would use that for parking? [30:06] Yes, and those individuals have been addressed about specific violations that may be observed, [30:11] but overall, there's nothing that restricts the vehicles from being there. [30:15] It's just that given the design of the roadway and the amount of traffic moving through [30:19] there, it just doesn't allow for safe movement of two-way traffic with vehicles parked there. [30:28] Questions or comments from citizens? [30:35] Council Member Colombo. Yes. Council Member Kilman. Yes. Council Member Lowe's. Yes. [30:43] Council Member Maxwell. Yes. Council Member Roberts. Yes. Council Member Stanfield. Yes. [30:51] Mayor Harvey. Yes, and that motion passes. Next on the agenda, Item 5, Executive Session. [31:00] item five point one is a motion to enter into executive session to discuss the [31:03] setting of a price for the sale or lease of property owned by the public body [31:07] discussion by the public body and executive session of the below listed [31:10] exceptions is permitted by the Illinois Open Meetings Act in the event that [31:13] any action is to be taken as a result of the discussions held in the [31:17] executive session final action will be taken only upon return to open [31:20] session and will be preceded by a public recital of the nature of the [31:23] matter being considered and other information that will inform the [31:26] public of the business being conducted. The exception here is according to Illinois statute [31:32] six, the setting of a price for sale or lease of property owned by the public body. The recommended [31:37] action is to enter into executive session to discuss the setting of a price for the [31:41] sale or lease of property owned by the public body in accordance with Illinois Meetings [31:44] Act with the appropriate section cited. Thank you. Is there a motion to enter into [31:51] executive session? Ms. Kielman. I move that we enter into executive session to [31:55] to discuss the setting of the price for the sale or lease of property owned by the public body is there a second. [32:03] Mr. Roberts second that with the court with the clerk call the role please. [32:10] Council Member Colombo. Yes. Council Member Kilman. Yes. Council Member Lowes. [32:17] Yes. Council Member Maxwell. Yes. Council Member Roberts. Yes. Council Member Stanfield. Yes. [32:24] You're Harvey. [32:26] Yes.