[0:04] motion to come out of close session. I
make that motion. That
[0:07] » motion by Mr. Collins. I have a second.
>> Second.
[0:09] » Okay. Start the vote with Mr. Moore.
>> Yes.
[0:12] » Mr. Collins?
>> Yes.
[0:13] » Mr. Bryant?
>> Yes.
[0:14] » Mr. Horton?
>> Yes.
[0:15] » And I vote yes.
[0:21] Okay. Upon the motion, um, the board in
the close session under Virginia code
[0:26] section 2.2-3711 2-3711 A5, A6 and A8.
I'll ask each member to certify.
[0:34] Whereas the C County Board of Subris
to affirm affirmative recorded vote and
[0:40] on the motion to close the meeting in
accordance with the Virginia Freedom of
[0:43] Information Act whereas section 2.2 2
3711D and the code of Virginia required
[0:50] certification by the board of
supervisors that such close session was
[0:52] conducted in conformance with Virginia
law and again we went under A5, A6 and
[0:57] A8 and therefore be it resolved that the
Carol County Board of Supervisors hereby
[1:02] certifies that to each to the best of
each member's knowledge only public
[1:05] business matters to be exempted from
open meeting requirements under the
[1:09] Virginia Freedom of Information Act were
heard discussed or considered in the
[1:14] close session in which certification
applies and only such business matters
[1:17] as were identified in the motion by
which this close session was convened
[1:20] were heard, discussed, or considered in
the meeting to which the certification
[1:24] applies. I'll start with Mr. Erling.
>> I will abstain since I was not privy to
[1:28] the majority of the closed session.
>> Okay. Mr. Horton,
[1:32] » I so certify.
>> Mr. Bryant,
[1:33] » I so certify.
>> Mr. Collins,
[1:35] » I so certify.
>> Mr. Moore,
[1:36] » I so certify.
>> And I so certify.
[1:39] » Okay. At this time, I'll ask Mr. Brunt
if he'll lead us an invocation and
[1:42] pledge, please.
Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we thank
[1:46] you for another opportunity to be here
tonight. God, we just ask that you would
[1:50] just guide us in all our decision
making. Lord, we just want to be a
[1:54] blessing for the county and the citizens
in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.
[1:58] » Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the
[2:04] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:10] justice for all.
[2:17] Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion
to agree to the agenda to add another
[2:22] close session at the end.
>> Okay. Have a motion. That's
[2:29] discussion.
>> Okay. Have a motion for one finish close
[2:34] session at the end of the meeting. Do I
have a second?
[2:36] » Second.
>> Okay. Start the button. Mr. Early.
[2:38] » Yes.
>> Mr. Horton?
[2:39] » Yes.
>> Mr. Bryant?
[2:40] » Yes.
>> Mr. Collins?
[2:42] » Yes. Mr. Moore,
>> yes.
[2:43] » And I vote yes.
>> Okay. Next on agenda is citizen time.
[2:48] Um, of course, we want to welcome you
into our meeting. Um, please be advised
[2:52] that outbursts or disruptive behavior
will not be tolerated. [clears throat]
[2:56] We need to maintain a respectful and
productive environment for all
[2:58] attendees. Please direct all comments to
the board as a whole referring from
[3:03] addressing individual members or
employees. Personal attacks on
[3:08] individual board members as well as use
of profane insults will not be
[3:13] tolerated. Scope of topics should
pertain to issues within the purview of
[3:18] the board of local government. Topics
beyond the board's control or unrelated
[3:22] to local governance are not appropriate
for public comment. Question and answer
[3:26] public comment is not a question and
answer session. um we will not respond
[3:31] to you. We give you the opportunity.
It's three minutes to talk and uh
[3:36] is a time limit
[3:40] and if you spoke on the same subject in
the past 6 months, we'll ask that you
[3:44] speak on something different.
That being said, we'll start with Jeff
[3:50] Wimberly. I get that correct?
[clears throat]
[3:56] » Mr. Chairman, now I make a statement.
>> Yes, sir.
[4:01] » If Mr. Warin is invited to the second
close session, I think it would be
[4:06] appropriate for him to speak to the
board then as opposed to now
[4:10] » on the airport.
>> That's fine with me.
[4:13] » I have no problem with that.
>> Okay.
[4:15] » Would you be able to hang around for
that?
[4:17] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[4:21] » All right. Next, we have Malcolm Smith.
[4:27] Good evening,
chairman, members of board. My name is
[4:34] Dr. Nin Smith. I live at 45 on Mclofflin
Road in Laurel Fort.
[4:41] I'm here because a damn fail in Carol
County and people downstream including
[4:49] myself, 30 other citizens paid the
price.
[4:55] That dam is Virginia Dam 03504.
[5:01] It let loose 150 million gallons of
water and whatever else was in that
[5:09] lake.
It belongs to Old Mill. It is regulated
[5:14] by DCR. I know that Old Mill's
wastewater system. [snorts] Did you
[5:20] know? Did you know they have a
wastewater plant there at Old Mill Golf
[5:26] Course
and their dam failed and that wastewater
[5:32] plant is below the dam.
[5:37] These are not vague allegations.
These are regulated facilities.
[5:44] There are records and there are
inspections.
[5:48] There are compliance requirements.
And there is a very simple question for
[5:54] this board.
What did Carol County know
[5:59] about this dam before August 2nd?
[6:08] And what did Carol County do
after August 2nd?
[6:14] I have 30 members of my community who've
signed a petition asking for time and a
[6:20] meeting in front of this board
because nothing was done. In fact, the
[6:27] only way the county found out that this
dam is breached is because I called DCR
[6:35] who then sent a letter. I hope all of
you read.
[6:40] What did Carol County do? Well, I've
been digging in the records about this,
[6:44] Dan. What I'm finding is very deeply
troubled. There appears to be roughly a
[6:51] 20year history of non-compliance
uh by this owner of Old Mill, an owner
[7:01] who you brought before you and
celebrated for over 30 minutes. Yet
[7:05] you'll only give me 3 minutes to talk
about it.
[7:10] 20 years they've been out of compliance.
Not 20 days,
[7:15] 20, not 20 weeks. 20 years they've been
out of compliance.
[7:20] If that is wrong, if that's wrong, if
that information is wrong, correct me.
[7:28] You can't.
If that's true, that they've been out of
[7:34] compliance.
Listen, I got two more minutes.
[7:38] » I'm going to give you another minute.
>> Thank you.
[7:40] » Uhhuh.
[7:44] » Why wasn't something done when this
stand was out of compliance for 20
[7:48] years? People downstream were flooded
when it failed. And now the question
[7:54] becomes even more important. What
happened after the fail? Did this county
[7:59] demand answers? Did each of you demand
answers? Did it Did you contact DCR? No,
[8:06] I did. Did you contact DEEQ? No, I
didn't.
[8:13] Find out what really happened in the
office.
[8:18] Put the complete history of ban 35 03504
out on the table for all of us. Get DQ's
[8:27] records about the waste facility. Did it
breach when the dam did. Find out
[8:33] exactly what happened during the August
flood. Find out what the emergency
[8:38] notification system was supposed to do.
And that's where they're mainly out of
[8:44] compliance.
you have some work to do about this
[8:49] errant neighbor and I look forward to
hearing what you're going to do.
[8:53] » Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you.
[8:57] » And next we have Greg Alger.
[9:08] » Good evening, y'all. [clears throat]
>> Good evening.
[9:12] » I'm coming just to talk about a little
bit about what So my family and friends
[9:16] were concerned about several people in
this room and it's the recoccurring
[9:21] thing here the data center
[9:26] a lot of the people that I know
doesn't think the board's really
[9:30] concerned about I don't know if that's
true or not
[9:35] but what I've been told is you know
y'all are supposed to represent us our
[9:40] beliefs our values it's not like we're
asking for y'all doing something illegal
[9:46] But nobody I talked to has mentioned
wanting a data center in this town.
[9:53] Nobody. There's too many negative side
effects
[9:59] uh from having.
[10:03] We just want to know that we're being
taken care of.
[10:07] Most people think zoning is not the only
option. There's got to be another what
[10:12] option out there.
Uh
[10:18] and I guess something I want to ask
supervisors as a whole. You really want
[10:23] your kids growing up with these data
centers and their neighborhood effects.
[10:28] You want your grandkids, your nieces,
your nephews, your neighbors, you want
[10:33] them having to hear these data centers,
deal with the water shortages, the rise
[10:37] of electric bills that we get from.
[10:42] Why can't we leave these data centers in
Lowland County, Prince William County,
[10:46] Fairfax, and where all these areas that
support Abigail Spamber?
[10:54] Um, they don't care about this part,
this part of the state.
[11:00] Um,
do we really think that data centers
[11:03] will fit in with our tourism industry
around here? Nobody else does.
[11:09] Um,
and if if it's an revenue, tax income,
[11:14] revenue thing, why can't we get more
factors in this place in this county?
[11:18] I'm a lifelong I have lived in Carol
County my whole life.
[11:23] We had the we had Mayfield, we had cross
crew, we had all these other packers,
[11:30] they closed down and we haven't really
gotten a lot of jobs. We had Magnolia
[11:35] for decades. Now look at Magnolia.
We are losing people to take younger
[11:43] generations are now going elsewhere so
they can find jobs.
[11:48] So why can't we get factories in here
instead of a data center?
[11:53] Uh, it's something else that some of the
folks that I know one board must be
[12:00] reminded of that no matter how long
you've been on the board, no matter how
[12:04] what your last name is, what you've done
respectfully,
[12:09] come election time, each and every one
of you can be replaced if you don't
[12:13] represent your constituents.
[applause] Thank you.
[12:23] Okay, next is Ron Mclofflin.
[12:28] » You don't want to speak? Thank you, sir.
Okay, next is Jean Bergetta.
[12:33] » Yes.
[12:40] » I just um want to first start off by
saying I'm not for zoning and not for
[12:46] data centers. I don't think I'm sorry. I
don't think those are our only You know,
[12:50] it seems like there were big being given
uh started out the noise about data
[12:56] centers and then it became the noise
[snorts] about zoning and then it became
[13:00] we have to have both of those things. It
sounded like from this board that in
[13:04] order to uh reel in data centers we need
to have zoning. So in other words, both
[13:09] things are an inevitable thing it sounds
like from this board. And I don't
[13:14] believe that's the truth. And honestly,
I think that uh a lot of the there's
[13:20] been a lot of uh I'm trying to be nice
about this obiscation as far as what uh
[13:27] the data centers approaching Carol
County. It seems like we've been told
[13:32] many times, oh, nobody's approached us
yet. It hasn't it isn't a thing. But in
[13:36] fact, it is a thing. And it has been
approached has been being talked about
[13:40] for quite a while now. So, um, you know,
I don't think that we're being
[13:44] represented,
uh, truthfully [clears throat] and with,
[13:48] uh, you know, clarity. And I think we
deserve that as as residents of this
[13:52] county. And as as the man said, you
know, you guys are elected to represent
[13:56] us, and I'm not, you know,
that's what we deserve and that's what
[14:01] we expect. So my question is to this
board um at any point are we going to
[14:08] receive that clarity and that uh
transparency as far as what's going on
[14:14] with these players who want to come in
here and extract from our community,
[14:19] take our resources, drive up our
electric rates, pollute our our
[14:25] environment with noise and water
pollution and whatever else. you know,
[14:30] they're they're obviously uh talk a good
game. They're going to tell us what they
[14:35] what we want to hear, but I think that
we need to go dig a little deeper. And I
[14:39] think as your representatives, it's you
guys who should be doing it for us
[14:43] because we elect you to do that. So,
anyhow, I thank you for the time and uh
[14:49] appreciate it.
>> Thank you, sir.
[14:50] » Thank you.
[14:59] » [applause]
[15:03] » Okay, that's all I have. So, moving on,
I will entertain a motion to approve the
[15:08] minutes that was presented in your
agenda. Make that motion.
[15:13] » Have a motion by Mr. Collins. I have a
second.
[15:15] » Second. Okay. Start the vote of Mr.
Horton.
[15:18] » Yes.
>> Mr. Bryant? Yes.
[15:19] » Mr. Earling? Yes.
>> Mr. Collins? Yes.
[15:21] » Mr. Moore?
>> Yes. And I vote yes. Okay, next on the
[15:25] agenda is invoices would be the invoices
A81726.
[15:30] I'll entertain a motion to approve that
invoice
[15:34] » as presented in your packet.
>> So move. Okay. Motion by Mr. Moore. Do I
[15:38] have a second?
>> Second.
[15:40] » Okay. Second by Mr. Warden. We'll start
the vote with Mr. Warden.
[15:43] » Yes.
>> Mr. Early. Yes.
[15:45] » Mr. Bryant.
>> Yes.
[15:46] » Mr. Collins?
>> Yes. Mr. Moore?
[15:48] » Yes.
>> And I vote yes.
[15:50] » Okay. Next on the new business,
um, we have a public hearing for the
[15:55] lodging tax.
>> Excuse missed the consent counter.
[15:59] » Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize. Um, we'll
back up a minute. I'll entertain a
[16:03] motion to approve the consent calendar
as presented in your packet.
[16:06] » I'll make a motion.
>> Okay. I have a motion. Do I have a
[16:08] second?
>> Second.
[16:10] » Start the vote to Mr. Moore? Yes.
>> Mr. Collins? Yes.
[16:13] » Mr. Bryant? Yes. Mr. Horton? Yes. Mr.
Early? Yes. And I vote yes.
[16:18] » Thank you, Mr.
Okay. Next, uh we have a public hearing
[16:22] for the lodge and tax and I'll open that
public hearing at 7:35
[16:31] and no one signed up to speak on the
lodge.
[16:42] Leave it open for a minute.
[16:54] right now.
[17:07] Watch.
[17:18] Okay, I'll close the public hearing at
7:36
[17:24] on the agenda. I'll entertain a motion
to
[17:29] approve the lodge and tax as advertised
or whatever your pleasure is.
[17:36] » I'll make that motion, Joe.
>> Okay. I have a motion by Mr. Horton. I
[17:40] have a second.
>> Second.
[17:42] » Second by Mr. Early. We'll start the
vote to Mr. Moore. Mr. Chairman.
[17:45] » Yes, sir.
>> Mr. Chairman,
[17:47] » I just wanted to uh see if you could uh
uh amend the
[17:56] the uh motion to approve the ordinance
amending and restating the reordance of
[18:02] chapter 27 221 article.
>> Yes, sir. Sir,
[18:08] » thank you.
>> Oh, that you have in your packet. It's
[18:10] on the back side of it. This will this
will take care of the 12%.
[18:17] » Okay. So the motion would read would be
to approve the ordinance.
[18:21] » Okay. So I need a motion to approve the
ordinance. Please move.
[18:23] » Okay. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
[18:25] » Okay. Start the vote over with Mr.
Horton.
[18:28] » Yes.
>> Mr. Early.
[18:29] » Yes.
>> Mr. Bunt.
[18:30] » Yes.
>> Mr. Collins. Yes.
[18:31] » Mr. Moore.
>> Yes.
[18:32] » And I vote yes.
>> Okay. I did skip over. It wasn't on my
[18:36] agenda sheet, but invoices. I'll go back
to invoices. entertain a motion to
[18:41] approve um invoice B September 7, 2026.
>> I like that motion.
[18:49] » Okay. I have a motion. I have a second.
>> Second.
[18:51] » Okay. Start voting. Mr. Early?
>> Yes.
[18:53] » Mr. Horton?
>> Yes.
[18:54] » Mr. Bryant?
>> Yes.
[18:55] » Mr. Collins? Yes.
>> Mr. Moore?
[18:57] » Yes.
>> And I vote yes.
[18:59] » Okay. Next on the agenda is the public
hearing for the school budget amendment.
[19:03] And I'll open it up at 7:38.
[19:09] No one has signed up for that. Mr.
Watson, you want to tell us about the
[19:12] » Okay. Uh, we approved the uh went
through the process and approved the
[19:16] budget this year to provide funding for
uh Carol County Schools. Uh when we went
[19:22] through the process, we knew that the
budget was not approved from the state.
[19:26] So, the funding would change based on uh
the approved uh Virginia state budget.
[19:35] The uh reason for having the uh public
hearing is because the total budget
[19:41] change would be more than 1% of the uh
budget.
[19:48] Out of this that's the uh total revenues
that were received by the schools would
[19:52] be uh 1,296,87.
[19:57] of that only 277,594
[20:03] uh is local effort. Okay, we fund the
school system at U
[20:10] require local effort plus the additional
programming and this is part of that as
[20:15] well. So this is not an addition on top
of u our local required effort or the
[20:21] additional funding. So, okay.
>> Uh, part of this funding they received
[20:25] was for special ed at risk uh school
federal dollars for school uh
[20:32] improvement, but the total amount of the
change would be1,296,87.
[20:38] Um
[20:42] uh if the board would like to uh move
forward with it to vote to approve the
[20:48] uh bud budget appropriation request for
fiscal year 2627
[20:57] close the public hearing at 7:40
school budget amendment and I'll
[21:02] entertain a motion. So move.
>> Mr. Chair, can I read a statement before
[21:06] you do that? Today's discussion involves
county budget. Discussion may include
[21:10] funding does include funding for Car
County School Board. As many of you
[21:13] know, I have a position appointment with
the Carol County School Board. With
[21:16] regard to the proposed funding of the
school board, um the proposed funding
[21:21] would affect the entire school system
generally not myself individually. As a
[21:24] consequence, I'm a member of group of
three or more individuals who are
[21:27] employed with Carroll County School
Board. Similarly affected by the
[21:30] decision on the proposed funding.
Therefore, in this situation, the
[21:33] exception of Virginia State Local
Conflict of Interest Act BA Code section
[21:38] 2.2-3112B
warrant applies to this situation. In
[21:43] compliance with that se section, I
hereby declare that I'm able to
[21:46] participate in this discussion and
voting on this topic fairly,
[21:50] objectively, and in the public interest.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Collins. And you
[21:54] did make a motion, Mr. Moore. So, do I
have a second?
[21:58] » Second. Okay. Any discussion? Not. We'll
start the vote with Mr. Moore.
[22:03] » Yes.
>> Mr. Collins,
[22:04] » yes.
>> Mr. Erling,
[22:05] » yes.
>> Mr. Bryant,
[22:06] » yes.
>> Mr. Horton,
[22:08] » yes.
>> And I vote yes.
[22:11] » And next on the agenda is our
last public hearing, and this is for the
[22:18] disposition of property. This this is
the same one that we talked about the
[22:22] civic league for a while. Okay.
>> We'll start that public hearing at 7:41.
[22:32] I won't sign up for that one either.
[23:11] Okay, we'll close the public hearing at
7:42
[23:16] and I will entertain a motion if
[23:26] You're talking about the ball field
behind the It's called the Civic League
[23:29] building, correct?
>> I was used for the helicopter.
[23:33] » Yeah. The property that we're looking at
uh
[23:39] disposing of would be the ball that I'm
not sure if uh both of them are listed.
[23:46] Yes.
I think the original uh had a vote in
[23:52] there, but it only be the ball. Okay.
So, I'll entertain a motion
[23:59] if we want to
do that or not. Somebody get Okay. Have
[24:04] a motion on Mr. Bryant. I have a second.
[24:12] » This is a question. What? We're just
going to be conveying that property to
[24:17] the church. Is that correct?
>> Yes.
[24:22] They're going to keep the field up for
the helicopter in return. Is that
[24:26] correct?
>> I believe that's what they're going to
[24:30] maintain it
>> and give it the uh allow some people to
[24:34] use it as far as we still use it as a
landing thing.
[24:38] » And I use it for baseball field too.
>> I'll second I'll second it.
[24:42] » Okay.
I have a second. So, uh, we'll start the
[24:45] vote with, uh, Mr. Moore.
>> Yes.
[24:48] » Mr. Collins,
>> yes.
[24:49] » Mr. Early,
>> yes.
[24:50] » Mr. Brown,
>> yes.
[24:51] » Mr. Horton,
>> yes.
[24:54] » Okay. Next under new business is the
pop, excuse me, personal property tax
[24:59] relief. Uh, this was revised.
[25:07] So whereas the per personal property tax
relief act of 1998 Virginia code 58-1
[25:14] 3523 extra session has been
substantially modified by the enactment
[25:18] of chapter one of the exit assembly 2004
special session 1 Senate bill 5005 and
[25:26] the provisions of item 503 of chapter
951 of the 2005 acts of assembly the
[25:31] 2005 revisions to the 20046
appropriations act here after cited the
[25:37] 2005 appropriations act. So now there
therefore be resolved by the California
[25:42] board of supervisors that qualifying
vehicles obtaining within the county
[25:46] during uh tax year 2026 shall receive
personal property tax relief in the
[25:51] following manner. So personal use
vehicles valued at $1,000 or less will
[25:56] be eligible for 100% tax relief.
Personally use vehicles valued at $1,01
[26:02] to $20,000 will be eligible for 22.55%
tax relief. Personally used vehicles
[26:09] valued at 20,0001
or more shall receive 22 shall only
[26:16] receive 22.55 tax relief on the on the
first 20,000 of the value. and all other
[26:22] vehicles which should not meet the
definition of qualifying business used
[26:25] vehicles, farm use vehicles, motor homes
will not be eligible for any form of tax
[26:28] relief in this program.
>> So I'll entertain a motion that we adopt
[26:32] this resolution.
>> Okay, I have a second.
[26:36] » Second.
>> Any discussion?
[26:39] Start the vote. Mr. Early,
>> yes.
[26:41] » Mr. Horton,
>> yes.
[26:43] » Mr. Collins,
>> yes.
[26:44] » Mr. Bryant,
>> yes.
[26:45] » Mr. Moore,
>> yes.
[26:48] » Okay. Next on the agenda is a board
request for school resource uh officer
[26:54] funding and this is the requested
funding in amounts of 163,000 for SRO
[27:00] positions at the Ray Center and Laurel
Elementary. Is that correct, Mr. Kemp?
[27:05] Yes, [clears throat] sir.
>> All right. These funds were included in
[27:07] the budget in anticipation of the grant
reward, but we didn't get the the grant
[27:11] is what I'm understanding. Okay. So, um,
of course, we do have letters from
[27:17] Sheriff Kemp and Mr. Huff,
uh, Mr. Edwards asking us to fund these
[27:24] positions. So, I'll entertain a motion
that we fund these or
[27:30] the board. So, we get motion.
>> Make a motion by Mr. Bryant, a second by
[27:34] Mr. Moore.
>> So, we'll start the vote with Mr.
[27:37] Collins.
>> Yes.
[27:38] » Mr. Early,
>> yes.
[27:39] » Mr. Moore,
>> yes.
[27:40] » Mr. Brunt,
>> yes.
[27:41] » Mr. Wley,
>> yes. against.
[27:45] » Thank you.
>> Okay, next on the agenda is old
[27:48] business.
Does anyone have any old business?
[28:02] See what Chris?
[28:06] » Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, next on the
agenda, we have a resolution um where
[28:11] the governor of Virginia has announced
an additional 4 days off on Friday,
[28:14] September 4th in reservance of Labor
Day, which has already happened. So,
[28:22] » four hours off,
>> four hours off. They got a half a day.
[28:24] So, we just adopted the resolution that
we approve the additional four hours
[28:28] off.
[28:31] » So, move.
>> Okay. I have a second.
[28:36] Second.
>> All right. Start a button. Mr. Warden,
[28:39] » yes.
>> Mr. Bryant,
[28:40] » yes.
>> Mr. Early,
[28:41] » yes.
>> Mr. Collins, yes.
[28:42] » Mr. Moore,
>> yes.
[28:43] » And I vote yes.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[28:47] » All right. Now, we'll move on to old
business. Does anyone have any old
[28:50] business?
[28:59] Okay. If not, we're going to move on to
uh board member comments. And I will
[29:04] start with Mr. Early.
Uh, Mr. Chairman, I think board member
[29:08] comments should wait until after the
closed second close session.
[29:21] Um,
>> yeah, we've already made the motion
[29:25] right before it.
So, we're going to go ahead and
[29:33] » I'll save my comments for last.
>> Okay. I'll start with Mr. Horton.
[29:40] » Uh, just want to say thank you to all
the staff for everything you're doing.
[29:44] Um, I would like to make a motion if I
could, Mr. Chairman.
[29:47] » Yes, sir. Uh, first motion I'd like to
make tonight, I'd like to make a motion
[29:50] to give Piper Cap Rescue Squad requested
$33,66969
[29:57] to reimburse them for funds used from
their savings to repair and upgrade the
[30:02] equipment received from [music] Rescue.
>> Okay, have a motion to have a second.
[30:07] Second,
>> Mr. Watson, is that good? That form is
[30:11] that
>> which one proper gap is that? We just
[30:15] need to have a uh a motion to approve
the amount and to appropriate the funds.
[30:20] » Okay. All right. We've got it done. I've
got a motion in a second. I'll start the
[30:24] vote with Mr. Morris.
>> Yes.
[30:26] » Mr. Collins. Yes.
>> Mr. Early.
[30:28] » Yes.
>> Mr. Bryant.
[30:29] » Yes.
>> Mr. Hordley?
[30:30] » Yes. And I s
>> And I do have another motion I'd like to
[30:34] make. Uh Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion to
[30:38] replace the proced board members, the
current board me board member from the
[30:41] proced board for Carol County with
Ronnie Collins and Tracy Moore.
[30:46] » Okay. I have a motion that we're going
to we'll be replacing Mr. Early and Mr.
[30:50] Watson. Correct.
>> That's correct.
[30:52] » With Mr. Collins and Mr. Moore?
>> That's correct.
[30:54] » All right. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
[30:57] » Any discussion? Mr. Chairman, I would
absolutely love to step away from it,
[31:02] but you probably need to have the bylaws
changed. If the board would like, I will
[31:06] not attend meetings, but the bylaws say
that it has to be the county
[31:10] administrator and appointment of the
board. Okay. So, I'd be more than happy
[31:16] not to go, but you wouldn't have that
person there.
[31:22] By law, say administrator.
>> Yes, sir. Okay. I thought it said a
[31:26] county employee as well.
I hope.
[32:06] Thank you.
[32:14] [snorts]
[32:58] » [clears throat and cough]
[33:11] » Okay. I've got governor body members and
employees may serve. It's under 1.4.
[33:16] board
article one
[33:21] the received bylaws. Okay, I stand
corrected
[33:31] as members of the respective governor
bodies of each member locality may be
[33:35] appointed as me
authority as many as may employ
[33:39] employees of such political subdivisions
and employees member authority locality
[33:44] made as condition of the appointed
employees contract for the member
[33:48] locality.
>> Mr. chairman. Um
[33:51] just looking through the code, I think,
um this isn't something we discussed
[33:55] ahead of time, so this is something I
might recommend you table for now.
[33:59] [clears throat] Um just to make sure
that um that we have authority to do
[34:03] that midterm. Um some bodies that you
all point to, you have the right to
[34:10] remove at will. Um but
the enabling legislation
[34:17] um 15.2-6 2-6400
ETSC uh appears to provide a set term of
[34:24] four years for members. Second
[34:30] » um obviously respect Mr. Dur I think
we'll go ahead and vote.
[34:35] We have a motion. Who made a motion?
>> I made a motion.
[34:38] » Okay. Do we have a second?
>> A second.
[34:40] » Okay. We'll start the voting with Mr.
Moore.
[34:45] » I have a second.
>> Mr. Collins.
[34:46] » I have a statement. Mr. Harden,
>> yes.
[34:49] » Mr. Bunt,
>> yes.
[34:50] » Mr. Early,
>> no.
[34:51] » And I vote yes.
>> Thank you.
[34:57] [clears throat]
>> And the last thing I got tonight, just
[35:00] want to tell all the citizens, thank you
guys for coming out and participating
[35:03] tonight. We we appreciate your guys uh
interact interactions with us and we are
[35:09] listening. I just want to tell you guys,
thank you again. That's all I got.
[35:15] » Okay, Mr. Bryant. Yeah, I just uh echo
what Mr. Orton said and just appreciate
[35:20] you guys coming out. Uh we are working
on things. I know it don't seem like it,
[35:26] but we're we're definitely working on
things. We do have the best interest of
[35:31] the citizens and the counties and
appreciate our staff and this board.
[35:36] That's all I got.
>> Thank you, Mr. Moore.
[35:41] » I'd like to echo what Bill said. you
know, thank everybody for coming out.
[35:46] Um, you know,
we had a good time at the fair and good
[35:52] to see the citizens. Thank all the
volunteers and the people that worked at
[35:57] the fair and our county employees. You
know, I was up there for a couple nights
[36:00] and our county employees were there, a
lot of them every night working the
[36:04] fair. So, that was good to see.
Appreciate them.
[36:08] Um [clears throat]
that said, you know,
[36:14] I know that some of the things have been
hot topics for our citizens, you know,
[36:18] and seems like me and Mr. Collins got
put in a hot seat on the procedure board
[36:23] now. So just bear with us, understand it
started tonight. So that's all I have to
[36:28] say.
>> Thank you, Mr. Moore, Mr. Collins.
[36:32] » Yeah. First of all, I want to thank
everybody for coming out. I appreciate
[36:36] the fact that you're here being
involved. That means a lot to this
[36:40] county. Means a lot to me as a board
member. U Thank you for your patience to
[36:44] the county as we work out the details of
the trash. I know we've had some snafuss
[36:51] and some a lot of people happy, a lot of
people that have concerns. But you know
[36:56] what I'm trying to tell people is when
you contact me, we'll get something
[36:59] done. Mike's been wonderful to work with
and getting the the things ironed out,
[37:04] but we're close. to getting all that
ironed out and it's a it's a great
[37:07] benefit to our people. So, I'm glad that
it's there and I appreciate your
[37:12] patience. Thank you to our county staff.
Thank you to our fire, rescue, sheriff's
[37:16] department, EMS. I mean, the the way
this county works together. I appreciate
[37:21] that very much. So, thank you for all
that. And that being said, Mr. Chairman,
[37:25] I have a motion that I'd like to make.
>> Yes, sir. Mr. Collins. Based upon the
[37:29] clear and consistent opposition
expressed by the citizens of Carroll
[37:32] County, I move that the board of
supervisors decline to pursue or adopt
[37:36] the proposed countywide zoning zoning
ordinance. Further, that we withdraw any
[37:40] previous direction or referral
concerning that proposal, request that
[37:44] the planning commission terminate its
con consideration of it, direct county
[37:48] staff not to spend additional time or
public funds developing countywide
[37:52] zoning unless specifically authorized by
future recorded vote of this board.
[37:57] Thank you, Mr. Collins. I have your
motion
[38:00] um that basically we're going to direct
this uh excuse me, the planning
[38:05] commission to stop work. We're not going
to work on zoning. Um so, do I have a
[38:10] second for that motion?
>> Second.
[38:12] » Second by Mr. Bryant. Any discussion?
If not, I'll start the vote. Mr. Moore,
[38:18] » yes.
>> Mr. Collins?
[38:19] » Yes.
>> Mr. Bryant?
[38:20] » Yes.
>> Mr. Horton?
[38:21] » Yes. Mr. Early? I abstain as a member of
the planning commission and other vote.
[38:26] Yes.
[38:30] [applause]
[38:35] » Anything else, Mr. Cos?
>> Oh, I'm sorry. That's all I have.
[38:38] » Okay. Um, so I've got a few things I
want to get into. Um, [clears throat]
[38:45] one thing on the This will be our This
is, you know, the the old meal. Um, you
[38:51] know, there was 8 to 9 ines of rain that
night. Um, we do have sympathy empathy
[38:56] for the for the people there, but we
we've explained to um Mr. Smith several
[39:02] times, we're not the enforcement agency.
Um, we don't have regulatory, we don't
[39:07] regulate or have enforcement authority
over impounds. And there was no
[39:11] emergency action response as implemented
because no one called 911. No emergency
[39:15] calls were made. I mean we're boots on
the ground will come if you call for
[39:18] emergency but no one called we weren't
even notified
[39:24] by him until almost a week later that
there been a damage and these already
[39:28] noninvoked emergency response procedures
are determined that emergency existed.
[39:32] So there was no emergency response for
us to be Yeah, they they are in
[39:37] violation which we know that but the
again we're not the enforcement
[39:41] enforcement is DCR which um
you want to say anything about that Mr.
[39:47] Fel Monica I mean I know you're all
working with them and and they're
[39:50] they're going to regulate it and get it
you know then we'll have a copy of it on
[39:53] on hand and that's that's where it lays.
>> Yes. So I would just say that DCR is
[39:59] actively involved and they are the
regency
[40:16] agency and they are actively involved in
working with the dam. Um I know they
[40:21] submitted a formalized letter advising
them of the status of their
[40:25] non-compliance. Um, and we as uh
emergency management, we're definitely
[40:30] in support of any action that needs to
happen. We are to be a stakeholder and a
[40:35] community partner with all of our dam
owners. And at their request, we work
[40:39] with them, help them, give them
guidance, participate in tabletop
[40:43] exercises, review their plans, and
things of that nature. But we can only
[40:48] do that when those dam owners that are
required by the regulation to submit
[40:53] that to us. So, um, our plan moving
forward is to reach out to all of our
[40:58] dam owners and, um, ask them if they do
have an emergency action plan, would
[41:03] they share that with us, which they are
supposed to do, but we can ask them. And
[41:08] our plan moving forward is to at least
on an annual basis reach out to each of
[41:13] our owners, let them know that we're
interested, and if we don't hear from
[41:17] them, then we will let DCR know that we
have not heard anything. Right.
[41:21] » And I feel like that would be our due
diligence. Okay, thank you.
[41:24] » I appreciate that. Thank you.
>> I hate he's laughing, but um okay, the
[41:29] next thing um that I have I want to
discuss, you know, talking about data
[41:34] centers. Um and again, I mean, some of
you's been here, you know, I've lived
[41:38] all my life here, too. I've got kids
here. You know, it's hard to find jobs.
[41:43] I mean, I know what you're talking
about. And there I've drove away most of
[41:45] my life to work. We're not sitting here
meeting with data centers. It's a buy
[41:50] right state. you know, you can be
working one right now and I wouldn't
[41:53] know it, you know, and you can start it
up. So, it's not like we're sitting down
[41:57] having conversation with all these data
centers to come in. Um, you know, is
[42:02] there some things we can do? I'm hoping
um in the PSA one thing we did do was we
[42:08] passed a policy that uh we passed it
tonight as a matter of fact that any any
[42:14] commercial or industrial user that would
require more than 40,000 gallons per day
[42:19] of drinking water capacity of such a
daily consumption would have to come to
[42:24] the PSA board to get approval.
So that's that's a big step. [applause]
[42:30] So, they can't just come in and PSA and
take 300,000 gallons. They've got to
[42:34] come for permission. Um 40,000 gallons
seems like a lot of water, but that's
[42:38] not a lot of water. I mean, you know,
there's there's a lot of places use more
[42:42] than that. But but that's a big step in
my opinion, and I thank the PSA board
[42:45] for taking that step uh that we did. Um,
another thing that I that I would would
[42:52] like to do is um Monday, Chris's not
here, so if you need to know what Monday
[42:57] is,
[43:01] Monday, I'd like to advertise a meeting
um Monday, September 14th at 5:30
[43:09] um to draft and adopt a data center
ordinance
[43:15] that we can um move forward with.
If you'll advertise that, Mr. Watson.
[43:20] And also um I think we need to have a a
joint meeting with Britta
[43:26] on Tuesday.
[43:30] Uh 5:30 will be Monday the data center
and Tuesday is 5:30. Let's do 5:30 for
[43:38] Tuesday
as well.
[43:45] » Do what?
>> No,
[43:50] it's the third.
So we have a services.
[43:55] Yeah, we should be good. Now they'll
meet the week of the 21st.
[43:59] » Will those be public?
>> Yes, there'll be some public portion. I
[44:04] mean, we're probably going to u you know
have some conversations. You know, this
[44:07] is our first conversation with proceed
as a board. So, uh but we will have some
[44:12] public comment. Yes. Or or at least give
you some transparency of what we talked
[44:16] about.
>> Public is invited.
[44:18] » Yes.
>> Will it be here?
[44:20] » Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
>> So, the the main money probably won't
[44:25] last very long. It's it's you know we'll
have to draft an ordinance for the um
[44:29] data centers and but you're welcome to
come at 5:30. Uh we'll do them both at
[44:34] 5:30 if that's if that works for
everybody. Make it simple Monday and
[44:38] Tuesday.
Okay. And
[44:45] make sure I'm not missing anything.
[44:56] And I think we miss
>> I do have one.
[44:58] » Okay.
>> And I and I'll have to ask Mr. Watson on
[45:02] the appropriation for the do I need to
appropriate that from the CIP or
[45:07] » which one
>> for the ambulances?
[45:10] » It would have to be appropriated for the
CIP.
[45:12] » Is the CIP is that a line item on the
CIP? Now
[45:16] » it would have we would have to I can
adjust it. We only have 450,000.
[45:23] » So my motion could be to to
$539,695
[45:30] for ambulance and
>> two ambulance
[45:33] » and direct staff for the two ambulances
and
[45:38] » appropriated out of the
>> appropriate out.
[45:40] » We have 450 and CF now.
>> Correct. That's my motion.
[45:43] » Yeah. Okay.
>> All right. Um have a motion that's uh
[45:48] appropriate 539695 for two two
ambulances
[45:53] with Carol EMS.
>> Second.
[45:56] » Second. Is that Mr. Mr.
>> Mr. Okay. I'll start the vote. Mr.
[46:01] Collins.
>> Yes.
[46:01] » Mr. Moore.
>> Yes.
[46:02] » Mr. Early.
>> Yes.
[46:04] » Mr. Bryant.
>> Yes.
[46:05] » Mr. Harden.
>> Yes.
[46:06] » And I vote. Yes.
[46:11] » Okay. And that's all. Do you did you
want to say something for
[46:14] » I did. I I wanted to echo what Mr.
Bryant said. You know, we do listen. I
[46:19] think it's obvious by some of the
actions we've taken tonight that we do
[46:22] listen. Uh to the gentleman that
launched manufacturing back here, it
[46:28] went to China and it ain't coming back.
You know, new tech is where jobs are
[46:34] going to be created and that's some
perhaps data centers or something else,
[46:38] but we're not going to have furniture pl
factories or textile factories here in
[46:43] Carol County. That those days are long
gone. We need to look to the future and
[46:49] the future is information and that's
what data centers are. Also want to say
[46:54] I'm sorry I could not attend the uh
county fair. I know it was a big
[46:57] success. The weather was pretty good. I
had uh other obligations that I had to
[47:02] tend to and uh I wish I could have been
there. But again, thanks to the staff
[47:06] for all they do.
>> Thank you.
[47:09] » Mr. Kemp, I think he wants to address
Sheriff Kemp. If you'll come on forward,
[47:13] please sir.
>> Good evening, gentlemen.
[47:17] » Good evening.
>> Good to see you all. Just want to take a
[47:19] moment of your time. personally thank
you for working with my office and with
[47:24] our school system on behalf of
all of us for what you decided to do. I
[47:30] know it wasn't easy. I know we were
faced with a decision that we wasn't
[47:34] expecting July 14th when that very
Department of Criminal Justice Services
[47:38] worked hard to try to make sure that
burden was put on all of us. You've all
[47:42] read that information. But I just want
to publicly say um I hate that we all
[47:47] hate to got put in that situation from
our state, but we all know that that's
[47:51] what we do. We signed up to do this
community. So I want to personally thank
[47:54] all of you and and the staff and the
county administrator's office for taking
[47:58] time with this community, my staff, the
community, the schools and helping make
[48:01] that happen.
>> Thank you so much.
[48:03] » We appreciate Thank you.
[48:08] » Mr. Nothing. Did you want to say
anything?
[48:10] » I just echo what sheriff said. Thank you
all.
[48:13] » Thank you. Okay. I want to move on to uh
county administrator comments. Nothing
[48:19] tonight. County attorney comment.
>> Not today.
[48:23] » All right. Thank you. And we're going to
um go back into close session. Mr. Burn
[48:28] under the airport finish our
conversation. That's only thing we'll be
[48:31] discussing and then there will not be a
meeting. Uh
[48:34] » yes. Uh Mr. Chairman, that would be uh
2.2371181. 2371181
[48:39] discussion, consideration or interviews
of respective candidates for employment,
[48:42] assignment, appointment, promotion,
performance, de motion, salaries,
[48:46] disciplining, or resignation of specific
public officers, appointees or employees
[48:50] of any public body. And as you said, it
should be related to the uh airport.
[48:55] » Okay.
>> And what what was that under a
[48:58] » A1?
>> A1. And um well before we're while we're
[49:02] still in in open session um I would ask
Mr. Early to the extent that you were
[49:08] present for part of the discussion uh in
close session um just if you could
[49:13] certify um that during the portion that
you were talking about during the first
[49:16] close session [clears throat and cough]
um that only members that only matters
[49:20] that were lawfully exempt from
disclosure were discussed while you were
[49:24] there. [snorts]
Can you reference the 3711 section that
[49:32] I was present for? I will certify that.
>> Yes.
[49:35] » A8.
>> Uh, and a
[49:39] » a
>> A8. Yes.
[49:42] » I so certify that A8 was in accordance
with the close session motion.
[49:52] Um it was um
also covered the
[50:02] city.
We also under
[50:07] A6 I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, A6 would be fun.
[50:13] » It was the funding stuff and A6
also certify.
[50:18] » Thank you.
[50:24] Okay. So, we need to make a new motion
to go into close session under A1.
[50:28] » And Mr. Chairman, I think we add in two.
[50:35] » Is A1 all Mr. Duran?
[50:43] » That's all that I have.
>> Okay.
[50:47] So I entertain a um upon motion the
board of command to close session for
[50:51] discussions authorized by Virginia code
section 2.2-3711A1.
[50:56] It's of course going to be about our
board discussion. Um and we're also in
[51:00] in this motion uh we're going to invite
back in close session Jeff
[51:06] » Wry.
>> Thank you Wry. Okay. So I have a do I
[51:10] have a motion? So
>> move.
[51:12] » Okay. Second
vote. Mr. Horton.
[51:16] » Yes.
>> Mr. Mr. Bryant.
[51:17] » Yes.
>> Mr. Erda. Yes. Mr. Collins. Yes. Mr.
[51:19] Moore.
>> Yes.