[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:49] Thank you, Mayor. We had a fielding meeting. Right after the morning of the day, and I will defer to our chairman to the approval. [1:06] Thank you. [1:07] Since our last meeting, I attended the May 28th, I believe, was the Dallas County Democratic Party. [1:16] First annual Johnson Jordan there. [1:21] And got to hear Mark Giroko, who's the Kinsman of Money. [1:25] And I speak at that. [1:26] There's always, it's very interesting. [1:29] Evening, and also, I have spoken to a couple of systems about some concerns on some zoning issues. [1:35] That's not it. [1:38] Mayor Morgan Belkner. [1:40] I think so. [1:41] It was, first of all, I was absent last council meeting, because I had a civil graduation [1:49] in the family. [1:50] I was actually in one of the Connecticut graduates, graduating my nephew from the Coast [1:55] Carly Academy. [1:56] So maybe might as quite a great event. [1:59] Make sure probably you're all too, but also proud of our country. [2:03] It's a simple product, a sense of right, [2:05] a beautiful setting there of that there. [2:09] But since then, we had a proper standards board meeting [2:13] last week, which went well. [2:18] And then, I also attended the Crete View, [2:21] senior crimson honors award simply, which was very good. [2:26] And I'm always good to go back to Crete View. [2:29] See everyone there that's exciting. [2:31] See all those seniors. [2:34] starting the new educational career, and so it's good. [2:42] Deputy Mayor Putton, Garza. [2:44] Thank you, Mayor. [2:45] On the 21st, I went to the chamber board meeting, and that's where I came from. [2:49] And on the 22nd, we have the prop to be this kid's meeting, the center in former branch has [3:00] and asked to relocate because the youngers are doing some [3:04] foundation work in the entire building, they're apparently [3:07] all of those buildings here have a lot of issues. [3:10] But since then, they've found a place across the street [3:13] and another part of the complex in Mayor Guazi, [3:19] and said, well, we're the chief, you know, with that. [3:22] And so this morning we had everything settled, [3:26] got a group of folks building a summer project that [3:28] and help them pack up and move to the other location. [3:31] So, you know, it's really working out very well. [3:34] So, in the new owners, this new apartment complex, you know, [3:40] heard about these kids and they made a presentation and ordered it. [3:44] And they loved it. [3:46] So, yes, you know, we don't feel like that's great. [3:49] Well, the 23rd, I went to, uh, participated in the, [3:53] got them to open the government, and I'll end this here, [3:56] and other staff members put it together and it was probably the most attended right on the [4:01] last minute, 92 players had four sponsors, as usual, great food, prizes and entertainment. [4:11] And the golf course, I had had a lot of comments, the golf course was an excellent show. [4:16] So people that came that hadn't played that course before were very surprised and I had to remind [4:25] I was at the 29th, I went to the altar and I was at high school awards and long. [4:31] There were five hundred plus kids that got involved. [4:35] And I don't know the count, but they had a wonderful list of organizations that were giving scholarships [4:44] and different donations from 150 to some of them were 2500 bucks. [4:50] And a lot of kids got multiple balloons, so it was a different test. [4:56] It was great. All of the ICs are the trustees were there, so... [5:00] So we're very happy to represent a girl from there. That was it. Okay. Council member Babik. Okay. May 17, they attended the [5:11] Constitutional and Square, put on by the city and John Wallbridge. For you over there, it's [5:17] good to turn out, probably 50-50 people probably coming going. The next one is June 21. So on behalf [5:23] of that group by highly recommend participation on that. [5:29] Orientation with Leonard and his staff on the 22nd. [5:32] I did attend the Heaven Booster Kick Off with a few of these folks. [5:36] Ron Simmons was there, Representative Ron Simmons was there, [5:39] if you'd have information for them. [5:41] And then earlier today, we had a ribbon cutting at rescue yoga. [5:44] I sent a note around it. [5:45] It's a good case study about the facade improvements [5:49] in the impact on our actual retailers. [5:51] So they're a good case study. They five year anniversary and they doubled in size in that [5:56] Where are they? Where are ship? It's basically a free-furt and Joe's even though with the low back in the North [6:02] corner. So I mean, it's a good, great. He has a little wilder. [6:08] Thank you, Mayor. A couple things that a Hebron Husker would have a final building leadership team [6:12] meeting for the year and one of the campus and we would plan for next year. And in last week [6:16] we had the Hebron Huskers bring in the best of all we should put a couple of that's [6:20] Other guys have alluded to a bulb as well. [6:23] It was a good time. [6:23] They honored to talk to me at the end, and, of course, had a lot of elected officials [6:27] there today, but people from all different jurisdictions were there. [6:30] Plano. [6:32] So it was a good turn out a lot of fun. [6:34] It got to meet some guys, talked to Mayor Maso, I didn't know he grew up here in Gerellton. [6:38] So it was interesting. [6:39] Just things you learned. [6:40] And then this past week, it's a so-journ, they hosted the Republican Party's Convention [6:46] in training and the statement of Staring Caming gave us an update on the RNC, the national levels, [6:52] as well as the state level, and then this coming week. [6:55] Are you up a little bit? [6:57] I hope you are. [6:57] We'll get the state convention coming up. [7:00] So if you do not have to risk a week, so people will come out. [7:04] Yeah. [7:04] So that's all I have here. [7:06] Okay. [7:07] Councillor Osir. [7:08] I'm telling you the TOD meeting after Memorial Day, and I'll let you up. [7:13] Okay. [7:14] Okay. [7:16] Okay. [7:23] I went to the Newman Smith Award Assembly in a walk, similar comments, so it's very heartening to see that. [7:30] Principal County does a great job. [7:33] It's interesting to see those scholarships. [7:35] A lot of them are for people who had children go through the district and do that school. [7:42] and it's very, it's just very good to see that [7:46] the seat people giving back and the organizations [7:47] that are involved. [7:48] It's very, very good for me. [7:52] But Tinnon, a meeting is dark on some potential innovations [7:56] on the cotton belt that will give more information [8:00] about the next month or so, but cautiously optimistic [8:06] about some possible movement in the cotton belt. [8:10] And then I gave a state of the city update to the current part of French embroidery. [8:15] It was good. [8:18] Let's see. [8:19] I attended the Metropolitan Chamber of Leadership awards luncheon. [8:25] And our graduates that we had sponsored were there. [8:28] It was good to see them. [8:31] And then we did our TOD subcommittee meeting and discussed several different pieces of [8:39] Projects together heard about, and we're just moving them, moving them down and one of them is on our agenda tonight. [8:48] For, okay, several things to talk about. [8:52] One thing is, so I sent you guys the email about the June 18 residential broker deal. [8:58] So I think we're going to end up having a pretty good attendance, and so if you guys want to come, come, [9:05] Just let Alina know that you're going to come and what I'd like to do, if we end up [9:10] about 75 or 80, is probably stationed everybody as a paper. [9:15] So, you know, it kind of got to get to my area in Iraq, and that's going to be, you know, [9:19] a high-level, you know, trying to convey all the exciting things for the President of [9:23] the world. [9:24] And Ashley, if you would go and just post them as a social gathering. [9:29] One [9:31] 12 [9:32] I thought 11OU [9:34] 1131 [9:36] 1130 to Illbase [9:42] Next thing is, everybody okay for photographs on July 15 [9:50] Now we'll play it on a photo [9:53] So what time are you [9:57] the five-fifth thing. [9:59] Okay. [10:00] So, yeah. And then the next thing is, this will be on a future agenda, but be thinking about people's sin. We, to refresh everybody, we sponsor typically two members of the metro chamber leadership class every year. [10:22] we do a half scholarship for two people, [10:24] so we have done the pathway, obviously, [10:25] we can do less or more stuff to this body, [10:28] decide that their enrollment is a little earlier here, [10:31] I think, and so we need to appoint by July 1st [10:35] or decide who we want to do that. [10:37] So if you guys want to forward names to Ashley. [10:41] We've sent an email to ask all the board [10:43] to this members with the application. [10:45] All we need is to actually lead our ship [10:49] address application is on their website. [10:52] They'll send it to us, we'll send a copy to them, [10:55] and let them know which one that we have. [10:59] It can use in an email where money has to do that. [11:01] Yes, but we'll copy you on the one that we send to our Facebook. [11:04] And we'll play it on deciding that on July 4th. [11:07] Two people and we pay two spots. [11:09] Two spots that we pay half. [11:10] That's what we've done in the past. [11:12] It seems like people are going to do it for the work. [11:16] That's it for me. [11:18] There you go. [11:19] No, I don't like my hands. [11:22] Okay. [11:22] Okay. [11:23] There will move on to the consent agenda of the questions. [11:31] I have nine minutes. [11:38] I have 10. [11:41] This is the traffic hardware. [11:48] I have 11 streets sweeping. [11:55] I have 12. [11:58] It's the rejection of the bids for the Sandy Lake Service Center, and I actually have a question on that, who says are the date. [12:09] So we were just going to try and design build, and now we're going to do a traditional process separate that summary now. [12:15] Is that why, I mean, does that seem like that's why the bids didn't we just get an album that we didn't have. [12:21] call your phone, sir. [12:22] Yes, sir. [12:23] Sessable indirect material. [12:26] We discussed with three or four other contractors that have done the work for us, asking [12:32] the quality of the submit, they said it was just too small and project for them to go [12:38] on higher and architect. [12:39] They said, if you were to just decide or so, we could try to tap the bid on it, we just [12:43] didn't want it. [12:44] Probably that side. [12:44] They didn't want to go into a hassle, you know, getting an architect, keeping it up with them [12:48] to go into the design. [12:49] Is that the sign of the time? [12:50] I'm busy everybody is starting with kind of see a lot of that. [12:54] Yeah, I'm going to see a lot more cherry-picking. [12:57] Where they're cherry-picking and we're getting less bitters than, you know, just a few years. [13:02] Just three for a year ago, it's like... [13:03] You can really get a 20 bitters sometimes. [13:05] Now we're getting five, six, and so... [13:09] Okay, thank you. [13:11] Anything else on below? [13:13] Okay. [13:16] Item 13. [13:21] This is the north, which is the north-east corner of Parker and Josie, the closed annexation [13:33] schedule. [13:39] Section 4, our number 14 is the one that is on. [13:47] So 14 and 15 have a companion item on the workstation. We'll discuss that in the next [13:53] of the workstation and 16. 17 is related to 13. [14:05] 18 is the burry grant. Anthony did [14:12] Yeah, right down there. [14:14] Yeah, I saw a lot of fun over in the day. [14:16] 10, 2, 3, 6, 9, 8. [14:18] That's the actual number, which is typo in that chart. [14:21] You're going to pack it up, so you're OK. [14:25] Is this, is this is one where, even the amount is this for this year, [14:31] makes it. [14:33] So we're all right, does this? [14:35] Something we, is it worth? [14:37] Is it, do we spend more than $10,000 in staff, [14:43] I'm sure you guys are getting Dallas County and the federal government and you start to have a diminishing return. [14:51] So just wondering how difficult is that to get? [14:54] Good evening, Rex Ren, you're a chief of police. [14:57] I here at Council of the RRR. [15:00] Success with our crime rate actually works against us on the grant, but the grant is allocated by population, jurisdiction, size and then crime rate is factored in there. [15:13] So the more successful we are, the usually the lower amount we're going to get, certainly Dallas County is considered a disparate. [15:20] And so they're because they spend a good portion of money in housing prisoners and prosecution. [15:27] Then Dallas County gets a very large percentage of the grant and then city of Dallas gets a percentage for administering the grant. [15:34] So yes, it has gone down over the years less funding. [15:37] I believe has been allocated to it as well, which also cuts down. [15:41] But so the majority of the funds go to the cities with the higher ground rate. [15:45] Unfortunately. [15:46] And you don't even have to apply for this. [15:48] Yeah, this is sort of this is given out there only we can reject it and send it back and then the other city just split it up amongst themselves [15:56] But our plan for this is to buy some thermal cameras small firm. You know like the old every kind of refractor as the R2 D2 units you've seen on top of Scott cars [16:07] That's what kind of looks like a big dome up there [16:09] But actually has the new devices that look, actually, it's a spotlight, we replaced the spotlight on the squad card and has a thermal camera in there, so we can buy three units with this amount of money to install on the car, so it's fairly small amount, it's not a lot of money, the units are about $3,500 a piece, somewhere roughly, and get about time to get them out, so we gotta use it up and so it's not, it's not a lot of administration parties that come to lots. [16:37] We've been doing this for years, and there's a lot of other criminal justice grants that will have to comply anyways. [16:45] Okay. So we might as well. [16:50] Okay. [16:51] Okay. [16:51] I am 19. [16:56] I am 20. [16:58] We've just again related to the ones that are in the work session. [17:03] And then I am 21. [17:06] Michael, because you can give us kind of a... [17:09] some background on this zoning case, and you have, we have looks like a couple of packets [17:17] of one packet of info related to this at our place, right? [17:23] I'm going to be on the other side. [17:34] Good, so I'm going to make a little fun. [17:36] No, no, no, that would be so. [17:41] That would be so good. [17:51] I'm going to be on the other side. [17:52] We'll probably order it. [17:52] Is it that good on you? [17:59] Maybe. [18:06] We'll get a little preview there. [18:08] I'm going to go up here. [18:10] Thank you, Mayor. [18:11] For a record, my McColle Senior Planet. [18:13] Development Services. [18:16] This is basically a request by the applicant and went to the final commission last moment [18:20] or the applicant went into repeal and then re-establish the special use permit for the [18:26] allowance of the indoor gun range and also they have training to be held sales, firearms [18:32] and accessories, such conditions that are online in your case for stipulations. [18:38] The site is two and a quarter anchors located at 2251 Shinoff Drive. [18:45] It's basically the southeast corner of Cubspring Road in Shinoff Drive. [18:51] The zoning designation, there is a PD1-12 with a light industrial district, [18:58] and it does have to be this repeat 1-13 which staff gets 1-2 change. [19:03] As you can see, one 13, and basically for the old American beauty control facility right here. [19:10] So instead of creating a new one, just I'll just go ahead and commend it. [19:16] The amendment would basically take out all the mention of beauty control and uncertainty [19:21] use of the Indo-Gundry party arts courts. [19:26] When this looked at a flight and commissioned, [19:31] the African-Gette presentation, which basically [19:35] what they wanted to do is, use most of the building that's in place right now, [19:44] and the [19:44] landlord is still going to use part of it for a basic storage. [19:50] This is the landlord site. [19:52] Here's the tenant site for a bodyguard support, here's in the top of the level as well. [19:56] for all of this in some handsware uses. [20:01] Part of the request are going to be adding additional parking spaces here, 15 parking spaces. [20:08] Here's a blow up of the four plans. [20:13] When this went before the planning commission, there was no opposition until then we opened up the public hearing. [20:18] We received three people stood up to the podium and opposed it. [20:23] I found in your case for it as well. [20:25] The Planning Commission voted six-two to approve it to come to you tonight. [20:33] We did receive a closer opposition between that time period, where we are tonight, which [20:38] I've handed out to you as well. [20:42] Part of that opposition that we received here, it did show that opposition consisted of [20:47] on for the owners, 20% or more of the area of land, [20:53] immediately adjoining this site, going outwards to 200 feet. [20:58] So basically within 200 feet, [21:01] roughly here and there. [21:03] How do you want to see it? [21:05] Part of the opposition also includes a property owner, [21:09] and a lot of tenants. [21:11] People that are leased in property out there, [21:14] that are beyond the 200 foot radius, [21:16] I just did not count into that point two, or within that 20 percent ratio, because of that, [21:24] the fact that there are so many more than 20 percent of the demand area. [21:30] There is no opposition to the property owners. [21:33] Actually, it's about over 60 percent. [21:37] We will take the council to provide a table of both of these three-fourth of the of all council members. [21:46] The app can serve tonight, even like give a presentation as well, they're ready for sessions. [21:52] And if you have any questions, don't find answers. [21:55] And what I'm missing is just a general, I'm trying to read these comments. [22:03] I already talked about it, it seems like I've got a general, [22:10] we don't want to go and range, [22:12] but not a specific because other than it just doesn't feel right. [22:18] It's kind of what that's what I'm getting from. [22:22] You know, the concern over to that decreased property value. [22:26] From heatowners. [22:29] Okay. [22:31] Out of last one later, not really in opposition, but from operational kind of, [22:36] but they have concern as to the operational kind of range, close to their facility. [22:43] And they're located right here. [22:48] Michael, in the packet, I noticed that the gentleman said that he had talked to the leader of the church. [22:59] I don't know what church that is, and that he had been excited about them coming in. [23:05] There's a letter here from a church that it's in opposition. [23:11] So, are there two churches that we're talking about or is it one in the same? [23:16] They're one in the same. [23:17] So, what you think, when you mentioned it, which is part of the minutes, he really [23:22] believed that the representative for the church, the pastor, was in support of it, but the [23:30] actual written congregation that are basically contradicts that. [23:34] Okay. [23:39] Now, they obviously, I don't know if you did mention to me that the auto dealership here [23:47] was in support of it, and they were going to send me letters and support of it. [23:52] I have not received to get, but the applicant who here tonight does have those letters to [23:57] hand out. [23:58] Okay. [23:58] Present section. [24:01] There's another, I'm looking for my, my notes here. [24:06] It was in regards to possible noise, and I don't know that if I do so much stuff here, [24:16] I don't know that I can were made and tell you, but it basically says that if there was [24:20] noise that it would be muffled, and what is the definition, can you determine number one, [24:29] what the decibel levels might be, or I mean get a better idea than muffled. [24:35] And then secondly, you know, how much of a muffler noise would be coming out of the location? [24:42] I think that's a nice nice question. [24:44] I'm sure they can answer that. [24:47] My opinion, when we talk about muffling sound from the mustard, [24:52] at other indoor gun ranges being outside, and I heard anything. [24:56] It wouldn't sound like a gunshot, you just hear a little. [25:00] I'm like, that's the way I can describe it as a muffled shot. It didn't really help you a lot, but if you heard it, you wouldn't think it would be good shot, but if you were just standing outside of indoor gun range. [25:12] It had various depending on the construction of range, so you do hear it, so you don't need to. [25:17] Yeah, and I just wanted more clarification, because muffled can mean different things with different people, and I don't know that that's a, you know, scientific, not that I'm looking for a scientific answer, [25:28] but something a little bit more, you know, the definitive is what the [25:34] love your knowledge would be. [25:38] Okay, Lisa. [25:41] I've driven the area several times, and that building really is of them being [25:47] next door to ADT security. [25:49] What is that about? [25:51] Fifty feet between the east side of the building through the west side of [25:57] the building across the street? [25:59] I'm talking about on the east side of the building. [26:01] Oh, here, show to them. [26:02] Yeah. [26:02] To the other building with that, all that, what is that? [26:06] Fifty feet more? [26:07] Well, you got to show that. [26:09] Thirty-four. [26:09] Thirty. [26:10] Okay. [26:10] Fifty feet more. [26:12] That's over 100. [26:13] That's over 50. [26:14] When you do that about 50 feet from the right away here and then you get the right away [26:18] and additional properties. [26:20] And then the parking lot and the back is that big as the whole building is itself. [26:25] So before you get to any of these businesses over here on our hard, I mean, [26:28] it's pretty far away. And then again, you're probably looking at the 100 feet is what you're [26:34] saying to the church or anything else across six lanes of traffic over the center. [26:39] The church, yeah. [26:40] That's where we just basically say it's 150 to the east of the building. That's maybe 350 to [26:46] the church of the public. To me, to me, this is a building that is, you know, it's in an area [26:52] that I don't believe this can have one of the intact and the people on the floor. [26:59] Just don't. [27:00] Yeah, no. [27:01] There you go. [27:02] Yeah, right in the PZ minutes, and I asked after as well, but he mentioned that it would be built. [27:08] Or it would be made out of concrete, but it would be made out of concrete. [27:12] It would be made out of concrete. [27:13] It would be made out of concrete. [27:16] And then in the stipulation number three says the range of shells should be made out of concrete. [27:20] walls filled with concrete or sand. [27:24] Is there a reason for them? [27:27] What other stipulation brought on by a commission? [27:36] I had a question in regards to the ventilation system for the range of the picture in our packet. [27:44] Looks like it's quite robust and very tall. [27:48] How visible is that going to be off the cover springs? [27:52] What do you have to be if it's broken and you have to be screened? [27:57] And it looks like from this picture that they're broken out of it. [28:00] You have to be screened for a reason you've got the audience. [28:05] Then I really don't know about how large the ventilation system may be including on it. [28:10] Also, what are the operating hours? [28:12] What do they need for example on Sundays? [28:16] I don't have it all fan it is in a minutes. [28:19] I'm going to see proposed to sit, and I'm going to tell you what time I've been able to. [28:24] And I'm going to read the beans in. [28:30] So they want a front parking lot across the street from the church. [28:41] Two longs of parking lots. [28:44] I sent me on the parking lot around the building, [28:47] but who owns the back door? [28:48] Just parking lot is all about the same. [28:51] Oh, by ADT by ADT security. [28:54] Okay. [29:01] Any other questions? [29:07] In regards to the sale retail sale of firearms, are there any particulars on what those would be? [29:17] The type of weapons? [29:19] Staffs not sure exactly what type of weapons we do know there would be handguns for one. [29:25] and low caliber rifles to what extent I'm not sure. [29:31] I wouldn't disclose to us when we didn't ask. [29:33] All right, thanks. [29:35] Thank you. [29:36] Question regards to the opposition letters. [29:40] Did any of them provide evidence or any kind of data [29:45] suggest that by the claim that we were in detrimental? [29:49] That would be valid. [29:50] I think I'm going to be here tonight to speak and I'm not sure, please help. [29:58] Thank you. [30:02] And just so we're all remembering, it's the required three, four, three-quarter vote to pass which means two against would be a no. [30:12] Just for your mental counting. [30:16] So, okay. [30:19] Then we'll move on to the work section. [30:23] Sorry. [30:24] One quick question again. [30:26] Do what's the final tally that you have a pose versus four in the letters, of course, [30:32] on this? [30:33] You have a tally in there? [30:36] 60. [30:37] Well, how do letters you received for an opposition field? [30:42] One was just showed a concern. [30:46] And we anticipate receiving one during the regular session. [30:49] I'll be handed out by the applicant and support it. [30:55] More percentage of my DNA, three percent support of that one. [31:01] I don't care if there's a lot to add to that. [31:05] Okay, we'll move on to the, oh, sorry. [31:09] I just, I got some information. [31:11] I wanted to share. [31:12] Right now. [31:13] Now, we have 29 registered federal power online. [31:17] Some holders in the care of the house. [31:19] That's a sale. [31:20] What are we going to do? [31:22] It doesn't mean it's a store shop, but we have that many enrolled in right now. [31:27] And of course, we have a thousand, it's something concealed handgun holders and enrolled in zip codes. [31:34] And I think that's, I just thought I'd show him. [31:37] Well, the demand man was it, it was instructive demand. [31:40] Right. [31:41] When you see the ways it's kind of a middle. [31:44] I love the knowledge that's simplified. [31:45] Yeah, man. It's great David. I love to see that demand now for alcohol. [31:52] I'm sure we're fine. I think we'll be able to watch our far extreme bets. [31:56] The next weekend was just for 2013. Part of 2011 we had about 2500 people that had concealed handguns. [32:04] So we're probably looking at 4,000 people. [32:07] So we're probably looking at 4,000 people. [32:12] Anybody else on the show? [32:14] OK, let's move over to item number five, which I think is also Michael, this is the proposed annexation and dis annexation of land located in the north side of the land of Arkham being putter and a wind haven in the current way. [32:31] Thank you. [32:42] Okay, as you know, we received a promo request from the property owner, a two tracks shown [32:49] on this slide, which is here right here, basically slide with awesome waters on it. [32:56] A two track shown here, feels this piece, is what is this piece. [33:03] This piece right now is in the city of the city of County. [33:07] And this event. [33:10] What he wants to do is basically have this piece, which is a little over 23 acres, this [33:18] annex, or DNX, where the colony would then annex it, and the swap, basically, we consist [33:26] of the city of Carleton, annexing in area of land, just shy of things by the acre. [33:35] So, basically, the reason why the outcome would want to do this, basically, is square it off. [33:41] And it would make each area more beneficial to the end of the building, basically, increase the temperature for quality of the building here. [33:52] Here we have a little bit narrowness here, and this would give it more depth. [33:55] Same thing for this work, making more attractive instead of a large development for probably the effect of the city that we find. [34:02] Now, partners could also include just in the right away where, right here, [34:08] and these are some of the slides we have here. [34:11] Here's a very, very air-shown need. [34:14] A barrier to be disanning, to be annexed by the colony, [34:18] we would consider annexing that. [34:20] When we turn, we'll be disanning this. [34:23] The colony would annex it. [34:24] Here we have a 50-foot right away, [34:28] where, principally, on the centerline, [34:30] That's the strip only maintained by the town of Hebron, so the western park here is going to [34:38] northward before it occurs down southward, is a right away that's only maintained by the colony. [34:47] So we're trying to clean that up, but this is actually a fetching proposal as well. [34:54] Here's another drawing showing the two sites. [35:00] All right, here you see the current boundary. [35:04] In blue, here's the proposed right here where we change all the sudden, including the right away. [35:15] That would be a benefit emergency services at all, of course. [35:19] Here's the part of the mentioned being brought into Carolton, when we annexed. [35:29] And it's part of the way that we would be in X and the common index. [35:35] There's just an illustration of the possible campus. [35:38] It would be on the site. [35:40] I've been a bit of us in X and the part of the land. [35:42] If the company is in X, [35:46] there's a current value line. [35:47] You see where a large scale development bubble, [35:50] whether it's not that complex, [35:52] that water is here. [35:53] Some type of commercial development. [35:57] It makes it hard as when it's pi-secreted by it, see what it's. [36:01] Here's the current value line in blue. [36:06] And we see the other boundary line that takes place. [36:09] Do we have a topo on the, I guess for that is a topo. [36:14] I'm just trying to figure out the, there should be one in here. [36:18] Flood, you know, what's the net? [36:20] I mean, if you take out the flood, is it, here we go. [36:27] P.C. Lewisville, the colony, Carleton, and L.C. P.Bron here. [36:33] But if I'm looking at that, it looks like, is that like 12-ish acres of usable land that we're getting? [36:41] There's just 24 that we're not getting, that we're swapping. [36:45] No, it actually depends on the development. [36:47] But we have here as a creek, right? [36:50] Which is actually based on a federal insurance frame that we're FEMA, [36:54] It's in a flooded way, that's naturally given. [36:58] On both sides you have a flood plane. [37:00] To flood weight for this site would be basically right about here. [37:07] Even if you do some private hydrological studies showing that it's not going to feed the flow. [37:12] I'm assuming drainage north is in the floodplain. [37:15] Now, this part here, it's in front of the south and on the north side, you have the floodplain. [37:19] As long as they need to be faced by elevation, it'll be a piece of certification, or they'll get better. [37:25] Yeah, a lot more bright and bright. [37:28] Revision. [37:28] What's the thing about that? [37:29] Other than, so unless it's in the floodplain, it's theoretically usable, but to right now it's in the floodplain. [37:35] Correct. [37:35] Correct. [37:36] As floodplain, floodway, you cannot alter that. [37:40] That's what I'm just trying to do. [37:41] How would it be hard to do with the possible? [37:44] So basically where just mine is right here, it's outside the floodplain. [37:48] And do you have any idea whether that pond is a special petropond that's got turtles in it, or it's a good idea. [37:59] I really don't know. [38:00] Because there was one, you know, the raper track where part of it was petro-waters that were to be dealt with in part of it. [38:08] There was just a hole. [38:10] Yeah. [38:11] And I just don't know. [38:12] I mean, that would be, because that's a jurisdictional waters, [38:15] than you know, just hard to do. Other than that, can you kind of, [38:23] what's the argument [38:24] against this, man? I understand intuitively what they're trying to do, I get it. [38:31] But I'm just trying to see, is there an argument against it, or is this what am I missing? [38:37] I'm not sure what the argument could be. I can see there may be concerns that this part of any type [38:44] development, maybe un-developable, if we difficult and possible to develop. But at the same [38:51] time, as you go up here to a range, and then you slope downward, a lot of this, if it's [38:58] not going to be developed, it can just be used as natural open space, or even as some improvements [39:01] as open space. And if they decide not to do any type of structural improvements on the northern [39:07] half of this area, I just use it as an example. You can only do cluster development and receive [39:13] And if it's here, it's based on the topography of the land. [39:16] Because I agree, this is really weird, right? [39:18] Because you'd have to build your head so shallow there, [39:21] that it just, it would just be weird. [39:24] The bottom line of the property that was trying to achieve [39:26] is making those tracks, one market will [39:29] for corporate office development. [39:31] And you're like a tool. [39:32] The other thing, you're looking at the rack of furniture. [39:35] That is in an area that's probably going to be a hotspot [39:37] in just what it's trying to do better position. [39:39] And the boy, as you mentioned, [39:41] just kind of arbitrary location of the corporate limits here. [39:47] Can I see the previous map in the concrete and the base of it? [39:53] And another one with cartel lines, yeah. [40:03] We're in North West, I mean North South, is that Josie or Subplient? [40:12] Josie? [40:16] Josie? [40:17] How far? [40:20] How far? [40:25] It's pretty much the one that can't be heard. [40:33] That's the one that's an amazing, [40:36] that's the one that's the one that's connected to it. [40:40] It's a little bit of a common track. [40:42] From the contour, as you can see, [40:45] the flatter higher elevation. [40:50] Essentially what you're getting to is, [40:52] is that we're giving a potential cost to all of these. [40:58] It should be an equal swap. [41:00] I think that's right. [41:04] And I can't, you know, I think I do think [41:07] makes, I think it makes sense. I understand that the point in maybe is, and can you go to the [41:15] slide that shows the bowl? I guess [41:25] we are actually getting more, more acreage, technically, [41:30] What are we getting? [41:32] What are we getting? [41:33] What are we getting? [41:33] What are we getting on? [41:34] It's usable. [41:34] It's 24.4 or like 24.8 versus 23.4 in every. [41:41] 24.8 versus 23.3. [41:43] So we are actually adding an anchor and an anchor and an half more, which mitigates that to some extent. [41:51] But you do the group gap and if there's make sense to request a sending session because [42:00] I believe it's a win-win for both sides of the economy and to see the current. [42:04] Make sense. [42:05] I guess the big question. [42:06] Where's that line? [42:07] Where do you draw the line? [42:09] That's the part that's part of the theory. [42:12] The axis. [42:22] Okay. [42:23] Any questions on this group? [42:24] So we're basically keeping right away on the entire street. [42:31] We have a full 100 foot right away right here to the lead up to this site. [42:36] Nest works all of a sudden, my second or divided by the 10th district of the P-RON and then the top. [42:44] So everything would move over to North Fireway line. [42:47] But then the P-RON would adjust their 10th district and then the colony would just support it. [42:52] So the entire right away, now be inside the city of California. [42:59] I'm sorry, I'm sorry. [43:00] Is it he or she or is it the colony that has that? [43:04] That was the colony and that's it. [43:06] Thank you. [43:07] There's a 10 foot strip hit. [43:09] We're only going to the center that's there. [43:11] There's no order to make everything. [43:15] And that was done a long time ago to protect it. [43:17] And now you can't do that strip. [43:18] It's your compensation anymore. [43:19] Right, but what does that mean we're going to be paying for the maintenance of that after [43:27] road? [43:27] For the entire rights, right now we're just paying half. [43:30] Right, we've already got the other half. [43:32] Now we're going to take on the other. [43:33] So why do we want that? [43:35] What's a benefit to when it comes, in this long fourth, there's an accident or a type of, [43:42] they'd like 50, you all know who's really responsible for that particular accident. [43:48] Maybe you might have a head on condition. [43:50] Like that, emergency services when the road is by safety like two jurisdictions. [43:56] But we have that a lot. [43:57] You know, we've done all in, well, you've done all in, well, you've got to go. [44:00] We've got just to be the balance for that group. [44:04] We do pick up some additional street payment but [44:08] Plano Parkway just recently been rebuilt so it's fairly new. [44:11] I heard it's just we believe it's better to have all that with [44:14] In jurisdictions so you've got consistency of law enforcement and [44:19] EMS responsibilities. [44:21] We've seen that up with Dallas here in Alaska. [44:23] We gain the clean up. [44:25] We also want to make sure. [44:27] Yeah. [44:27] That's a fair. [44:28] I mean that. [44:28] We ensure it's managed to see the girls staying here as well. [44:35] Lisa? [44:35] This is going to say I broke out again. [44:37] I mean, based on what I see out, I don't know anything other than anything. [44:41] It would be smart to do with any obsession with any obsession. [44:44] I think it really makes sense to do it. [44:48] I think I think it would be quite beneficial for us to backage it all. [44:53] It's a nice clean package rather than that, [44:55] I forget it, venture effect on there that you really can. [45:00] Thank you so much for being able to get a quality development. [45:06] Okay. Other comments? I have also driven out there. And as you think about this, and as you think about what [45:10] you're trying to do for a corporate campus perspective, again, higher hires better when you're thinking [45:16] about a corporation, particularly building that has, is looking for window offices in the [45:20] like. And then also the, from the same point of, you know, one of my concerns as it relates to the infrastructure [45:27] requirements and this seems to kind of pull us back a bit from an infrastructure requirement [45:33] ignoring that right away, should I? [45:34] You're talking right. [45:36] No, that's a good point. [45:38] Mayor, if I can mention, part of the handout that has to have to do is not to, you know, you're just [45:42] to the party guard support. [45:44] They still need description. [45:46] It should have been in the ordinances. [45:48] We need to pack it. [45:50] They just were not available at that time. [45:52] Well, we've got all of the visits are now in. [46:06] Okay, any other comments or questions on number five or the companion items that are [46:11] considered new? [46:16] Okay, we'll move to appointments to planning and zoning commission to start preservation [46:20] and a visor community to track the visor commission in the library board and of the [46:25] we, the right got the facilities in the Dropbox. [46:30] Yeah. [46:30] Okay. [46:31] And just put your information. [46:33] The H-pack and library board that actually come up in October, so if you don't want [46:39] to point those now, they'll be appointed or re-appointed in October anyway, because they're [46:46] I don't remember what fire I'm not talking about. [46:47] Which one of the H-pack in library? [46:51] I mean, it's always hard when we have these appointments near the end of the counted. [46:58] Near the end of the board commission cycle year because our app is just small. [47:04] And so that would be one option. [47:08] So we could just push H-pack in library to our regular cycle which would be in like three months. [47:13] You don't fall back, you don't fall back, you don't fall back. [47:17] Okay, so I'm sensing consensus on that. [47:20] Okay, let's do that. [47:22] So that leaves us with tack and P and Z both of which [47:25] have to vote on things, you know, [47:27] I think they've probably just do need to fill those. [47:29] Yeah, they do, because they aren't until 2015. [47:32] So tell me, we got one P and Z, right? [47:36] Yeah. [47:36] How many tacks? [47:39] Oh, remember? [47:41] Okay. [47:41] Oh, [47:44] God. [47:47] How many of them were there? [47:48] One. [47:49] Just in that open to this or not? [47:50] That's what I'm saying. [47:51] Every one. [47:51] I went up and he... [47:52] One on each. [47:53] Okay. [47:56] So, he's got an idea of how to read or those. [48:03] At least it's. [48:03] Ronald Lloyd Colman for the traffic advisor. [48:10] And I don't have my iPad. [48:13] He's left here for 29 years. [48:16] He has 42 years of experience in electrical supply and construction in the streets at the [48:22] executive level. [48:24] Yeah, good point to work. [48:27] Do we have a copy of that? [48:29] You know what, let's do this. [48:30] I think they're all not having a hard nobody's got them. [48:33] Do you have a copy? [48:34] Okay, so let's do the second session. [48:36] Finish that. [48:37] Come back and do the appointment. [48:39] We'll do the appointment. [48:40] We'll do the appointment. [48:41] So, Council now convene an executive session for suit protection bill for code section 551.0701 for private conversations with the attorney. [48:50] Seek legal advice with respect to pity and conflict and litigation, all matters on the agenda. [48:55] Who is the city attorney as a duty in the text room? Discipline of Congress. [48:57] We're counting on you. [48:58] Comments, communications, and counsel. [49:00] 551.072. [49:01] Yes, sir. [49:01] Matters get real property. [49:03] 501.072. [49:04] Yes, sir. [49:05] 501.072. [49:06] We've got security matters, five, five, five, one, four, three, seven, seven, seven, seven, [49:09] seven. [49:09] We can always develop it, including discussion of business relocation and centers. [49:16] Yep.