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Order, miscall please. Good morning. It's a surprise or jominger. Surprise or white. Supervisor Harden. Supervisor Shitty. Mayor of Agwell. You got your quorum. Thank you so much. We're now on to agenda item three, which is our invocation. And I think Pastor Lou is here to enlighten us this morning.

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Thank you. Let's pray. Thank you, Lord, for this day and for your many blessings in our lives. Lord, I pray for our supervisors.

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If him discernment in making just and wise decisions,

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may their discussions be fruitful, their actions just,

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and hearts be aligned with your will.

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May we be reminded of the words of the prophet Micah,

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which are, he has shown you, O man, what is good,

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and what does the Lord require of you,

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but to do justice, and to love mercy,

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and to walk humbly with your God.

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Please bless the men and women of this board, their families and staff, give wisdom that they may govern well.

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Be asked for your continued grace and blessing for the people of our...

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Community, in Jesus' wonderful name, amen.

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Thank you so much, Miss Adams. Would you do us the honor of leading the pledge?

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What is the plan?

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The plan?

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The plan?

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The plan?

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In the digital?

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With liberty?

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Dr. Carl.

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Thank you so much.

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Okay, we're now onto our opening public comment.

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those requesting to speak at the beginning of the meeting. I have a Raymond

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Robert Schell signed up first.

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I'm Raymond Laura Schell from Christ and City.

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I'm here today to speak in opposition to proposed acquisition of a new city hall

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that's neither appropriate nor something that the people of Christ and City can afford.

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The proposal comes about because city clerk's organization needs the move out of the courthouse

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to make room for a third justice course.

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There are plenty of properties available around the city clerk's side of the city clerk requirements

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without resorting to a huge expense of a new city hall.

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We do not need 45,000 square feet structure and pocket structure to house city services.

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That figure is almost double what is currently utilized by city employees.

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It appears that you want to find a way to justify this oversized structure because that's what HMAF wants to build.

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Are there detailed plans available for this building?

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If so, I haven't even shared with the public.

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What are you trying to hide?

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The city manager has stated that the ground bigger could occur as early as much, 2027.

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I'll get a new construction began without detailed plans.

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Are we buying a peg in a poke?

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This building includes fiber optic wiring throughout.

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If you did, they have telephones, there was a better.

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The proposed lease cost is listed as the estimate of $1,964,000 per year.

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This number is a bit of a sham in high-sits root cost, so this chip on that,

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at least because it does not include the primary taxes.

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In torrential utilities, maintenance, it's not a mobile cost,

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which a city would be on the hook for.

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We're about the cost of moving off city employees in the distance structure.

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That isn't cheap.

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Commercial moves are even more expensive than moving household. Who's going to pay for that?

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That tooth fairy?

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This is supposed to be hauled, includes an amount of terremics,

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some sort of justification for the increase in square footage,

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but we don't need a new amount of terrem.

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We are perfectly good when right here in this building.

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This total sales still has additional redevelopment funds to partially fund Mr. City Hall.

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We desperately need redevelopment funds to spur new commercial development

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and increase tax base using redevelopment funds for new City Hall

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just dumb and dirt like cutting off your nose despite your face. As further evidence of the

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short-sighted thinking of this proposal is the proposal stale of the existing city hall to the state.

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How much the state pay in taxes to the city? About zero. Any sensible proposal would include a

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sale of this property to a commercial customer to introduce tax base. After all, it's prime downtown

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property. It would surely bring a little bit price and yield added taxis. Every bet helps. In summary,

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this new city hall for Colville's based point where it's shaky, falls in incomplete fiscal

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estimates that just don't hold water. We don't need it to get afforded and we need to stop it now

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before you add this community into inevitable bankruptcy.

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The next individual that I have signed up

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for speaking at the beginning is Mark Costa.

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Good morning. My name is Mark Costa, Carson City resident

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and property taxpayer. Please vote no on the City Hall lease purchase item 14A and against

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the City Hall garage item 15B and let the people vote on it. Many people skilled and

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experience in lease and accounting have voiced objections and problems with this proposal.

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Listen to them and heed their advice.

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The voters should be allowed to decide on this project.

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There is a precedent for allowing the voters to decide.

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The voters decided on the two row repair initiatives in 2024.

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The voters decided on the proposed public library initiative,

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which was approximately 15 years ago.

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Therefore, the voters should...

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On the other side, if they want to be obligated for nearly $2 million per year for $30 million city hall over 30 years, costing over 30 years, in 8 million for an unneeded parking garage. There are many other areas in Carson City that need investments. The Board of Supervisors has been told about the excuse me.

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The climbing pavement condition of the local roads and the finance department has reported

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capital investment is needed for equipment and buildings.

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Also as an example today's agenda is the purchase of 15 vehicles for almost one and a

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half million dollars as an example of other expenses which are coming due.

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Plus, there are associated costs with the City Hall, including furniture utilities, information

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technology, property taxes, and insurance, which are not accounted for and not funded.

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These expenses are not budgeted.

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How will these expenditures be paid for?

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Finally, many details for this project are not resolved or have been transparent to the

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public.

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The basic question is why is this city home needed when there are other options and other

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buildings that have not been explored or adequately analyzed?

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Vote no on this measure and present this project to the voters for their decision.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The next one I have is Scott Drake.

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Sorry, I always go in order for the sign-ups and then I take general after.

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Thank you.

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The people of Spoken. My name is Scott Drake, I'm a resident. The people of Spoken

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flock must go. Now, today, a digital cage has been dropped around us. Suddenly, we bear

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the soul-crushing weight of our own captivity. A literal cage of fear, distrust and resentment

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planted into our lives at our expense without accountability. In conflict to establish norms

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with entirely suspicious timing. It's not just flock, it's all the dangerously invasive surveillance,

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many players, many serious problems, from the dire erosion of trust, personal security,

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national security, to the no less than the functioning democracy itself. This is not a choice to be made

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for us, nor a acceptable semblance of representation. We have our own examples of dangerous backlash

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for a hero ready. The camera's urgently replaced, but the burn marks and scarred lives remain.

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Please, hear this one example and take it as a pivot point.

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reintroducing the term the flying hot list. It's already well-defined. It describes a line of

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democracy not to be crossed. The hot list itself moves or flies to the device. No physical

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possibility of public data ever stored or moved from the device, a strict, verifiable,

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hardware separation. Hot lists in real democracies do not ever store public data. However,

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oppressive dystopian pre-crime tools should do. The line did not move. It was blatantly and intentionally

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disregarded. The public does not trust flock, axion, Tyler, Cognite, Palantir, or the rest of them,

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nor should we, and most importantly, for this room, nor should we need to.

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In summary, 30 days continuously is forever over the line.

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The real hot lists do not collect

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public data in a democracy. That's just not how they work. I can continue. Shall we explore the

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un-serious bug bounty programs or something else on the long list of well documented offenses?

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Thank you for your time, and I am available for further deconstruction.

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I have, sorry if I don't read the last name correctly here, but is there a richer

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curing?

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I've got your last name wrong, because I can't read your writing, but that's okay.

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Good morning, a richer chain, Carson City resident,

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good morning.

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I want to address the proposed city hall project, but not just the building. This is about a $64 million

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financial commitment that taxpayers will carry for decades. The construction cost is quoted at

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$30 million, but earlier this year, the city's own analysis contemplated in amortization schedule

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of approximately 64 million. I understand the CFO has suggested that figure is conservative,

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that is exactly my point. The public deserves to know the full cost, not just the sticker price,

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and this brings me to a serious question of public participation. In 2012, Carson City voters rejected

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a quarter cent sales tax for the no good project by 68 percent. After citizens gather thousands

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of signatures demanding a public vote, the city adopted an ordinance bearing public funding for

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that project without voter approval. The city now says that ordinance may be unenforceable

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and unique to that project. My question is, if the principle was right then, why isn't it right now?

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And what is the public's guarantee that we get anything beyond a city hall?

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The foundation now says the promised public plaza will only be built if the hotel in garage

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Generate enough profit.

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And if not, they'll ask the public to pay for it through brick sales and bench naming.

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So we are being asked to commit 64 million for building while the public benefits keep shrinking.

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Now consider the timing.

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We are debating this when the 30 year treasury yield is above 5%, substantially higher than the short-term policy rate.

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If rates remain elevated, taxpayers pay more.

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If construction costs increase, taxpayers pay more.

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Calling this, no new taxes does not mean taxpayers aren't paying for it.

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It means the money is being deverted from roads, infrastructure, public safety, and reserves.

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I'm not saying Carson City should never build a new city hall.

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I'm saying we must absolutely be certain we're building for the right reasons,

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the right price under the right financing,

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and we must have a clear plan B before committing to a project this fluid

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because taxpayers deserve a backup plan before they are left holding the bag.

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I respectfully ask this board to slow down,

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preserve public participation, give taxpayers information they deserve

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before this becomes a commitment, they cannot be undone.

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Thank you.

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I don't have anyone else signed up for the beginning of the meeting,

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but you may come up.

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Thank you very much, Mayor Denny, French Carson City, Nevada.

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I, as many may know, try to get to as many minors as I can.

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When I do come and decide that I have learned something

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that has changed my perspective or such, I adjust my remarks.

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And this circumstance, I can't add to what's already been said any more eloquent and distinctly as has been on the 16th that the public has already advised you of and made you alert of and have you considering.

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But I would like to add these things. Having failed being able to come up with anything fresh or new or feeling confident I could even express it, I've come up with several things.

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I look to people like the philosophers.

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I look to Martin Luther King,

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Dolly Lama,

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Confucius,

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Will Rogers and Mark Twainis,

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to what constitutes good communication.

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First off, I'm not a good example,

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but I do show up and I do listen,

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and I do observe your responses,

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and this is where I have from them.

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And this is from a movie it's called Cool Hand Luke.

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The captain says, what we've got here is a failure to communicate.

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Then you go down to Hannah Obdert, the meaning of honest communication,

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the meaning of honest communication relies on a shared agreement about a base truth.

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losing that foundation destroys meaningful public discourse.

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Marcus taught us a way back there.

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Clarity of thought is...

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The most must be clarity for speech, meaning you can't articulate and ideal clearly to others if you don't understand it yourself.

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And I honestly do not feel that we have resolved those issues of understanding on a foundation of a basic truth.

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We are only animals given the great communications that humans have only to use it to fight instead of connect.

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That's by any how I can't read his name because my glasses aren't on.

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Martin Luther King says, wrong word, even in right message, could create a ripple of chaos.

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And you learn quickly to analyze your words in consistence with each of the breaks.

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Well, watch what you say and how you say it, basically.

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Clarity always focus on a clear, simple core message.

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This has not been the case I do not believe here.

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I don't believe it's with intent to do harm, but I feel that it's done as me, a great deal of pain and caused me angst.

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I care about everybody on this board while I don't agree often with you, and I seldom want to have to step in when I do agree.

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Because I don't want their name attached to mine necessarily.

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Thank you, Mr. French. Thank you.

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Betsy. Betsy Straussburg, Carson City resident, Madam Mayor and Supervisors. First, I like to find out why this Board of Supervisors meeting is not at 6pm after people have left their day jobs, especially with a public notice about the city hall on August 22.

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Why did the board revert back after the July 16 meeting to a day meeting when people

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can attend?

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The second question and it may be for the folks who design the agenda, the motion on the

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redevelopment fund at the July 16 Board of Supervisors meeting said, and I code, and further

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we have a validation of the availability of the redevelopment funding as a resource.

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We expected that validation to be presented at the next possible meeting when the city hall was going to be discussed.

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Instead, we saw in the legal notice a vague term called legally available funds.

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What does that mean?

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Or is it because the homework hasn't been done yet?

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And therefore, the city has not provided the answer that the mayor requested at the July 16th meeting.

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Should the public watch all future meetings just to stay informed on what that legally available fund means, which fund?

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And how will it be used to fund the new city hall?

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When we pull the public in various locations, we find that many of them do not know about the city hall and the parking structure.

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Why is that?

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Yes, they are busy with their lives, but it is up to the city to get them informed as you did.

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about clearing weeds from the sidewalks and common ownership areas as well as maintaining the private water storm facilities and where e-bikes can travel.

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I urge the city to disclose all due diligence, work that has been done on the City Hall and parking structure as it has been requested by the public and not use the developer documents before any decision is made, especially when the city is the applicant of this requirement.

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Thank you so much.

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I don't. Again, I don't have any else signed up, but if, uh, oh, sorry. I might have. And if there's others, come on, uh, let's just try and get this moving along. Good morning. Mayor Supervisors. My name is my eighth essentially resident candidate for Supervisors here in Ward 3. That gives me anxiety. I don't want to reiterate many of the comments here. It's lovely to see everyone here. The engagement, the discourse that we're having around these different

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projects. I just wanted to make a couple.

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Acknowledgements, I suppose, and then ask a few questions in front of you. Maybe y'all can consider asking them later on today while you're having these conversations around these topics.

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One, just the irony of the order in which the agenda is listed today, given what we're talking about with the ordinance and all that, it made me chuckle.

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I wanted to ask a couple of questions about the off-ramps, I know that I've heard discussion

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in the right a bit about the off-ramps that have been documented or partially documented.

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I was curious when the city refers to these off-ramps in this proposed agreement, what specifically

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are those off-ramps? And when can they be exercised? Or when there might be an anticipation

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to exercise them? Because again, that will really reflect interest that the city is paying

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as well as that anger-tenant situation. I think that has been discussed in regards to maybe

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the further private development after a city hall is built. And what it would cost the city

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to exercise those off-ramps, just curious, land ownership. I wanted to see if we could confirm

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with the least purchase when paid if paid or brought out early, whether or not Carson City will

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still receive that fee simple ownership of both the city hall building and the underlying

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parcel free and clear of any in conferences also curious about easements, once the city owns

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that property, what easements access agreements, parking obligations, maintenance agreements or

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other restrictions will continue to tie the city own property to the surrounding hub and may

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development as it proceeds. And then also curious about the financial plan, some of those assumptions

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again around the off ramp conversations, looking at the redevelopment funds as that second bucket

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expires in 2036 whether or not we're looking at exercising the off ramp before or after

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those redevelopment funds expire upon completion of the construction. Yeah. Thank you.

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Sandra Owens. I want to speak to the items when you call a man, but this

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The report is about to make a generational, a generation long decision on Thursday morning before a holiday weekend.

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Instead of giving the public the same courtesy, it gave the deal on July 16th.

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On July 16th, you have an evening meeting so people could get off work.

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Today at 830 in the morning, two days before Labor Day, that is not how you hear a city.

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That's how you get through a vote.

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When you say you already heard from the people, look at who spoke in favor in July 16th.

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A lot of that support came from people with the stake in getting this built, and from letters that I read, they came off from the same template.

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A stack of matching letters is not a town. It's an organized yes. The city manager sits on the board of the N and NDA, that in Northern Development Authority, as Carson C, which is also housed in a hop and may add a foundation building.

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Before this job, he ran for the, or he ran the Nevada Builders Association, the Builders lobby.

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That is the world those templates came from.

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It's not from the people who will still be writing the checks in 2057.

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Those people are at work this morning.

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They were promised a voice 14 years ago.

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You can still put this on the ballot.

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If you will not, at least do not pretend that 830 hearing in the,

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the eve of a holiday is the same thing as asking them.

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Thank you, Mr. Stevens.

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Karen Stevens through the record.

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I would like to come in the previous speakers for their comments.

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I agree with them completely.

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That I want to talk about flock camera during this moment of time.

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I sent some questions to supervisor Giyomi.

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Last month, I didn't receive any response nor a formulator like this being sent out on the city hall.

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But I want to say that I also concur with Mr. Drake regarding everything you said about these cameras, their evaluation of our constitutional rights.

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And just because it's a technology that's available to law enforcement doesn't mean it should be used when it violates our Fourth Amendment rights.

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It's very disturbing.

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This technology is being gathered against us.

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People are saying here that it's only kept for 30 days.

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Well, maybe that's correct, locally, but flood camera keeps it indefinitely, and it's

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out to any law enforcement agency like the FBI or the CIA, or people with deep pockets

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See you next time.

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Court, or other organizations that spy on the people. So, this data is being kept indefinitely, and whether you're committing a crime or not, we don't know what crime is going to be made up about us.

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and come up after us for some weird reason.

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So I think that these cameras should be taken out.

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I know we're paying somewhere around $35,000.

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For each camera per year, is that a good use of our money?

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I certainly don't want my tax funds being used to spy on me.

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So that's what I have to say about that.

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and I will talk to you later, Mr. Nagle.

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Good morning, Richard Nagle for the record.

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What bothers me about this building is the fact

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that it's got a 30-year lifespan

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according to the stuff that I read that was available.

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And why are we building a building?

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If it's only got a 30-year lifespan,

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we don't usually maintain buildings.

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So it may be even less, but my question is if we're gonna,

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put this kind of money into something, should it last a little bit longer than 30 years?

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Thank you.

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You have to, you have to push the button to greet.

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Thank you.

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Connie Solerno, I'm a Carson City resident.

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I'm not a public speaker in any way shape or form,

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but I feel compelled to speak now for the second time

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at a meeting regarding the city center project.

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When I spoke last, I did ask that your work be shown with the experts analysis reports as to why this is the most feasible option compared to all the other options you mentioned, which were renovating other properties and so on.

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I have seen none of that, and now I am disturbed when I read the agenda item, I believe it's 15B.

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Number four, Adams CC development has proposed a construction time frame, et cetera.

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Adam CC development has been an existence only since August 6th, 2026, less than 30 days ago.

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This was never a company.

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So I'm wondering how they are as it says here.

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The party appears to have undertaken significant preparatory work

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And then it's in a unique position to best provide the most desirable partnership with the city.

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How could that have been done in less than 30 days?

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That's my question.

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And also I do believe that this should be put to the vote of the citizens of Carson City.

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Thank you.

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Do you have anyone else on opening the public come?

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Okay, I'm going to move on. Then we're going to go to agenda item six, which is the approval of our minutes of August 6.

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Do I have any corrections or changes?

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For many member. Supervisor Geomea motion, please.

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To approve Board of Supervisors meeting minutes is presented for the 6th of August 2026.

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In a second for approval, all those in favor, please.

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I, I, any opposed, say no. Let the record reflect that was unanimous.

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We'll now move to our consent agenda.

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Supervisor G. Omey.

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To prove the consent agenda consisting of item 7A, 8A, 9A, 10A, 11A, 12A and 12B, all is presented.

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Have a motion in a second for approval of the consent agenda.

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All those in favor, please say I, I, any opposed, say no.

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Let the record reflect that was unanimous.

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We'll now onto agenda item 14A.

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This is discussion and possible action

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on a resolution dealing with the lease purchase agreement

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in a maximum aggregate principle amount of 30 million

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directing the clerk recorder to notify the

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Carsity Dept Management Commission

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and directing staff to afford necessary materials

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to the Department of Taxation.

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Ms. Benabu.

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Good morning.

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First, I'd like to respond to Supervisors'

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White's questions from the July 16th, 2026 Sports of Supervisors Meet.

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The rules from NRS-2,

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yes, sorry. The rules from NRS-279, read by Mr. Mr. White, were referencing redevelopment agency debt, and how that debt cannot have a life past the life of the agency.

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Interest 279 is for the redevelopment dead.

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This means purchase agreement is a financing type that is funded by all legally available resources of Carson City.

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This is not redevelopment dead.

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A redevelopment area one plan is a legally available resource.

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As Section 411C specifically states that with the approval of the Board of Supervisors,

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The authority may pay all or a part of the value of the land construction of any building facility structure or other improvement.

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Thereof.

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Using these legally available funds will allow the city to bridge the gap between 2029 and 2031.

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After 2031, the redevelopment area 1 sunsets, the general fund starts paying off some of its long-term debt.

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And the city will shift the payments to the general fund as the primary legally available source of funding.

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So it's just a funding source that we're using redevelopment area one for.

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Area two funding will be reserved for incentive still owed.

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The city is asking for at least purchase agreement, which is different from a bond in that it does not pledge any specific revenue source.

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but relies on all legally available sources of Carson City.

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The first step in this process is the authority to take the least purchase agreement to the

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debt management commission for approval and the State Department of Taxation.

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These two entities are required to determine if there is adequate funding to proceed.

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Note that the final least purchase agreement will come back in October and November for two meetings for

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final approval if we are approved through these first steps.

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It's the in cities intention through this process to own both the land and the building.

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It is also the city's intention to refinance this least purchase agreement as soon as

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feasibly possible with the geobond or revenue bond as we have stated several times.

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The city got a better deal than the original off ramps.

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The city staff successfully negotiated no pre-payment penalty for the least-purchase agreement.

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Meaning if you pay off your car, your home today, you would owe just a little bit of interest

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accrued as well as the amount still owed.

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Which is actually a great deal that we got for the city better than offerings.

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So with that statement, I'll turn the discussion of the least-purchase agreement approvals over to

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John Peterson with JNA. He's our debt consultant and Ryan Henry from TAFT, who's our city

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bond council for their comments, and then we can, you know, turn back to you guys.

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Thank you. Good morning, Mayor and Board of Supervisors, John Peterson with JNA Consulting

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Group for the record. I would, I believe the way the agenda item is laid out. It does call

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for a public hearing. And then a discussion. So, Mayor, I guess I would ask with the concurrence

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of your council that we opened up the public hearing first and then have further discussion.

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So, I'm okay with either direction, generally speaking, though, for the public to be able to, I feel

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to have a good discussion and comment with us that they would like to understand the underlying

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documents first, and then I'll open up the public hearings so we can have a discussion

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if that makes sense.

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I think they're interested in listening to components and then they would be able to have

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a discussion.

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I understood it, and maybe I'll lean on Ryan Henry, I guess what I would say is that the

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the value of statutes are kind of specific that the hearing's first, but this is

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why it's area more than mine. If I need to open it, I'll open it. And you're part

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of the public hearing? Yeah, public discussion. Do you see that too? Okay. Yeah, I can do that too.

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For the record, Ryan Henry from Taft Law, as John mentioned, the statutes are

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specific on this and that authorization resolution shouldn't be deliberated on and

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voted upon until after the public hearing occurs in his close, but I do think it's fine to have further discussion here so long as you take public comment during the public hearing and then close it prior to the to the boards deliberation on the actual resolution.

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I don't have any problem opening the public hearing. So I think you're part of the public record anyway for the discussion. So I will open the public hearing and then we'll just all be a part of that and then we'll close it at the conclusion. So the public hearing is open.

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Okay. So I'll start with a few questions. Just sorry. Sit down. You're not leaving. I think that what I'm really interested in and I think this dynamic that we just had about the law and processes.

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I think oftentimes it's difficult for those that don't deal with debt financing and lease purchases on a regular basis in every day to understand the steps and the processes and the order.

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And so what I'm really interested in is the resolution itself deals with pain for many legal

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source. And so I would love if you could discuss that because I think people in the public

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were expecting potentially to see it more lined out. You know, I'm going to get X from this source

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and why from that source, can you explain to us why it's written in the manner that it is?

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John Peterson, J&A Consulting Group for the record, Mayor, it's an excellent question.

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The reason it's written like this is to provide flexibility to the city.

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So when we talk about this process and issuing debt, it requires that we're having this

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presentation today, the vote by the board later, the public hearing, but one of the components of

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entire discussion is, it has the city identified a funding source. And so in order to make that

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funding source to the city as broad as possible, the words that are used are legally available

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funds. So that would include, for instance, the general fund of the city. That is legally available

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to pay for this obligation. I think as CFO Russell Benavu was just talking about with the redevelopment

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agency that would also fall under that umbrella of all legally available funds.

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If I'm getting more into the weeds, you know, if, for instance, the utilities department

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took up an, you know, an entire floor of city hall, that would mean that under some, you know,

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a cost allocation program that some of that cost could be paid, you know, proportional

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cost could be paid out of the utilities fund.

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So again, it's not meant to obfuscate.

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It's meant to provide as broad of a base for the city to pay this from as possible.

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Ultimately, at the end of the day, the expectation is that the general fund will kind of be the ultimate, you know, for lack of a better word, backstop to pay this obligation.

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But that is how I would classify this all legally available funds discussion, and I know Ryan has some comments as well.

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Perfect. Thank you so much. Yeah, for the record Ryan Henry from from Taft Law. So one thing I just would like to put on the record is under NRS chapter 350, the least purchase agreement constitutes an installment purchase agreement now under Nevada law installment purchase agreements are payable from all legally available funds.

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The important distinction I want to make is that no specific revenues are pledged to this repayment of the lease purchase agreement, which is subject to annual appropriation.

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So just as John described on a year to year basis, the city can choose to do appropriate repayment from whatever funds at that point in time are legally available and, you know, ready to do so.

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And, you know, it's the same thing with medium term obligations under Nevada law, medium term obligations and installment purchase agreements are both payable from legal available funds.

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And that's what taxation is going to look at as part of its review of this process and it looks at the affordability.

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And so for that reason, the notice of public hearing and the authorization resolution were both drafted in the manner John described for flexibility.

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You know, and it would be, you know,

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on necessary might be the wrong word, but inappropriate to get too specific in those documents

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because like I said, no specific revenues are pledged to the repayment of the obligation.

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Thank you so much.

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And then can you tell me one of the discussion points that we've had is the ability for us in this particular

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endeavor is off-rabs or really no pre-payment penalties. And I think that what I'm

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interested in is this board or not actually the board, but the staff has been a

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over there, and you guys...

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You're our bond councils. Would be watching the bond rates to anticipate that, okay, we can do this for a better price, we can get out the interest rates.

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It behooves us to refinance this debt. I kind of look at it that way. Just like you do in your own mortgage at home, right? You watch rates, you watch things that are going on.

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And you would be alerting us that, hey, let's, let's refinance this debt because there's a better pricing model out there.

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Would we have to go through this process again to go to the Department of Taxation because it's a different vehicle or a timeline.

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I just, I just want that process. So would we go again?

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John Petersen, Jane, a consulting group, Mayor just kind of back up on some of the statements

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you were making earlier.

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Yes.

423
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,560
Right now, we are anticipating that there would be the ability for the city as was mentioned

424
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,000
earlier.

425
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:06,060
The city can prepay this thing without a premium or penalties kind of the word that is normally

426
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:07,760
thrown around in my business.

427
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,860
You can pay it basically with a crude interest, just like you would prepay your mortgage.

428
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:20,400
Now, the source of that prepayment could be, you know, the city could have cash on hand and could pay that with cash.

429
00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:25,880
You know, just just throwing out some options of how it could prepay, obviously that eliminates the interest cost.

430
00:46:26,540 --> 00:46:30,780
The other options that you're alluding to of a refinancing through issuance of other bonds.

431
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,240
Potentially, yes, there was a process.

432
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,340
There are requirements in Nevada law for how those bonds can be issued.

433
00:46:37,140 --> 00:46:41,120
In the past, the city has issued what we call general obligation of revenue bonds.

434
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,080
That was what we did for the, the John D. Winters Park for those improvements.

435
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:53,140
That process requires a, it's kind of a lengthy process requires about 90 days to authorize those kind of bonds.

436
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,840
It does require that we go back or go to the debt management commission.

437
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,920
Here in Carson City for approval of those bonds.

438
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,320
So in that scenario, yes, we would have to go to an outside entity.

439
00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:06,380
We would not go to Department of Taxation.

440
00:47:06,380 --> 00:47:11,760
Another refinancing opportunity that exists for the city would be to issue revenue bonds.

441
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Now these are bonds that are payable strictly from a pledged revenue most likely for the city that would be the consolidated tax.

442
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,840
Revenue bonds do not require approval of an outside entity.

443
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:32,120
Examples where the city's done revenue bonds in the past is we've done bonds that have been paid with the fuel taxes to improve roads.

444
00:47:32,620 --> 00:47:37,280
We did not go to the Det Management Commission, we did not go to Department of Taxation for those kinds of bonds.

445
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:45,440
And if we were to do revenue bonds to take this out in the future, we would not go to those outside agencies as the laws written today.

446
00:47:46,420 --> 00:47:51,160
Legislature can always change the rules, so I want to put that down on the record.

447
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,120
But as they are today, that's those are a couple of the options.

448
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,840
One, yes, we have to go to the Det Commission.

449
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:56,960
One, no.

450
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:08,960
And then just another question in general because we read all the public comment, all the stuff that has come in.

451
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:18,920
Part of the discussion point is some in the public believe we're not being honest on the cost of the facility.

452
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:27,960
And so, why is only the principle noted, you know, instead of 60 million or fully amortized,

453
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,880
and all of that kind of stuff that it talks about the principle amount only?

454
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:39,240
So, is again, why is only the principle noted in the document instead of focus?

455
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,580
John Peterson, JNA Consulting Group for the record, as far as the resolution is concerned,

456
00:48:44,580 --> 00:48:52,120
It mentions principle because Nevada law requires that we set a principle amount so it requires that we say 30 million obviously in the backup materials

457
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,420
There is discussion about the the contemplated interest cost and that's that's in those materials

458
00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:03,780
But in terms of why the resolution says 30 million instead of 60 million. It's because we have to say principle

459
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:05,820
Thank you very much

460
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,900
Okay

461
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:12,920
Does anybody I don't see either hands raised so why don't we go to general the

462
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,960
public hearing again is open, agenda item 14A.

463
00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:21,780
The first one I have signed up for that was Mr.

464
00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:22,660
Greedy

465
00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:30,290
and then if then Mr. Sonata and then Mr. Costa.

466
00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:48,350
Good morning.

467
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:53,610
I have Michael Greedy, a voter in Carson City since 1986.

468
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:58,230
Emotion to adopt the proposed resolution must be denied.

469
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:59,970
this consider

470
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,180
Federation for the proposed, quote, new city hall, violates the board's 16 July procedural motion to discuss

471
00:50:08,180 --> 00:50:15,800
the new city hall for two board meetings before taking action. The 16 July procedural motion

472
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:22,700
requires validation if redevelopment funds can be used for the new city hall. This written

473
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:29,360
determination has not yet appeared. The proposed resolution is for these participants agreement.

474
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,560
The resolution is silent on the purchase conditions.

475
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,320
The least purchase agreement must explicitly include

476
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,640
the purchase conditions.

477
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:45,800
The least purchase agreement may be for financing purposes,

478
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,080
implementing at least purchase agreement is

479
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,480
tantamount to completely committing to the proposed

480
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,940
quote, new city hall, with design responsibility

481
00:50:55,940 --> 00:50:57,760
by the least soar.

482
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:04,520
But the board must consider the ongoing operating expenses before committing to a new city hall.

483
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:13,500
Taxes, the city is not exempt under a lease, utility cost, maintenance, and most importantly depreciation.

484
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:22,180
There must be a two-week publication period if an actual lease purchase agreement is brought to the board for implementation.

485
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,140
Customary one week agenda publication period is too short.

486
00:51:27,940 --> 00:51:32,660
A two week period will help the board members review and the public's review.

487
00:51:33,220 --> 00:51:36,860
Understanding a complex long term commitment is necessary

488
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:40,180
avoiding any quote catch 22's.

489
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,080
I urge each board member to read the previously submitted public comments.

490
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,860
Similarly, a comparison to a mortgage pre-payment is false.

491
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:58,800
A mortgage payee has an equity interest in the underlying property.

492
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,360
In a lease agreement, there is no equity interest.

493
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,020
If the board should choose to not appropriate lease payments,

494
00:52:08,620 --> 00:52:11,560
the board will have to vacate the city hall.

495
00:52:13,540 --> 00:52:22,200
I am generally not favorable to single issue judgments, but this new city held decision

496
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:29,080
affects neighborhood street funding, potential other city services funding, and is a 30-year

497
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,640
project.

498
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:34,080
The Board's decisions here will affect the Board's credibility.

499
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,020
Board members, Board members, votes will affect a Board member's future electoral success.

500
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:43,940
Thank you.

501
00:52:43,940 --> 00:52:45,060
Thank you.

502
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:45,760
Miss Sinata.

503
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:48,900
Thank you.

504
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:49,860
Mary Sinata.

505
00:52:50,180 --> 00:52:51,400
Carson City resident.

506
00:52:52,540 --> 00:52:56,740
This lease purchase agreement is a bad deal for the city.

507
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:05,060
For your own consultants report, it states that this is the most expensive financing option.

508
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,400
So you need to give some justifications.

509
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:14,680
I've gone through your justifications, and I don't find them valid at all.

510
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:25,280
Number one, it's better this lease purchase is better suited to meet your March 2029 deadline.

511
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:35,000
And yet your own consultants report states that revenue bond authorization could be completed by October 2026,

512
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:43,230
which is totally complex with this idea that we need this least purchase agreement.

513
00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:48,330
That it's necessary for the ownership structure.

514
00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:56,470
How, I don't understand that justification at all.

515
00:53:57,590 --> 00:54:05,530
The rest of the justifications that are stated relate to the palace and the parking lot project itself,

516
00:54:05,530 --> 00:54:14,630
not the financing. The justification stated for this most expensive financing option do

517
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:21,470
not support the conclusion that it benefits the citizens of Carson City. In addition,

518
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:29,890
the resolution contains many other strange elements including you're going to reimburse

519
00:54:29,890 --> 00:54:33,130
expenses from the proceeds,

520
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:37,630
at least is an obligation to pay.

521
00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:40,510
It doesn't generate any proceeds.

522
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:47,690
Has any real thought ever come into this?

523
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:54,050
It was again mentioned today that we're going to wait

524
00:54:54,050 --> 00:54:57,910
for the interest rates to go down.

525
00:54:58,570 --> 00:54:59,870
This is a fantasy.

526
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:13,020
Does anybody look at the bond markets? There's absolutely no indication that interest rates are going to go down, especially on long-term debt anytime soon.

527
00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:19,840
I urge the board to reject this resolution.

528
00:55:20,820 --> 00:55:21,820
Thank you.

529
00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:24,840
Do I have any other public comment?

530
00:55:27,860 --> 00:55:30,460
Please come up and take the chair.

531
00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:51,920
Sandra Owens for the record, so I've given the clerk a longer written comment and I'm not going to read that, I'm just going to go over the five things.

532
00:55:52,540 --> 00:55:54,820
So this is not a $30 million vote.

533
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,120
The debt service schedule in your own packet is principal. We've already gone through that. It's a 54 million.

534
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:10,340
$955 million vote, the payments will ask through the physical year of $2,000 or $257.

535
00:56:10,580 --> 00:56:12,840
That allows every person here on the dius.

536
00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:15,200
Let's just call it what it is.

537
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,060
Two, your own advisor found cheaper ways to borrow.

538
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:26,280
Janey said that geo revenue is at 4.6 revenue bonds at 4.8.

539
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,920
this lease purchase puts us at 5% over 2 million or at about 2 million a year.

540
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,120
GNA says the city can use either cheaper methods and those authorizations could be done by

541
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:42,580
October 27th or January 27th, October 26th, January 27th, why authorize a more expensive

542
00:56:42,580 --> 00:56:48,600
structure and why didn't the comparison arrive after or why did the comparison arrive after July 16th

543
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,580
and not before.

544
00:56:53,000 --> 00:57:00,540
We didn't get the, where's the, what you requested in your motion for July 16th

545
00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:08,120
for in writing that we would have approval for the redevelopment funds. For the deadlines yours,

546
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:15,400
the ownership structure is theirs. Janae did not invent March 29. Janae wrote that the city expects

547
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,420
occupancy by then, Sex and Chevin says, at least purchase is necessary for this owner structure

548
00:57:20,420 --> 00:57:26,160
because the foundation owns a land and wants to design control for its larger project.

549
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:29,040
This is not the only way Carson City can have a city hall.

550
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,760
The resolution also asks you to find no suitable.

551
00:57:32,780 --> 00:57:35,200
Find that no suitable seller exists.

552
00:57:35,660 --> 00:57:38,920
Another proposal by involving Bank of America,

553
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:44,500
I believe has been presented. I was told this alternative should be put up next to this one.

554
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,840
and until we do that, this finding is just not ready.

555
00:57:50,260 --> 00:57:51,640
Five, you need to put it on the ballot.

556
00:57:52,060 --> 00:57:56,360
You know, this statute may not be legally voted on,

557
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,900
or it doesn't require a vote,

558
00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:00,040
but that's not the question.

559
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:03,940
The question is whether five people, you five,

560
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:08,120
should commit this city through 257 without one.

561
00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:11,560
No vote, I say vote non, put this on the ballot.

562
00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:13,320
It's the right thing to do.

563
00:58:18,660 --> 00:58:19,500
There we go.

564
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:44,880
Connie Solerno, Carson City resident, I've heard the term legally available funding, but I would like to know if some of the funds are not legally available right now until you repeal the CCMC 2.44.010, that's my question.

565
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:52,280
are as that public funding intended to be used for this project and right now it's not

566
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:59,440
legally available because it's strapped by this ordinance that's all I have just a

567
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:06,060
question. Thank you. Mr. Smith. Welcome. Good morning Mayor and supervisors for

568
00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:09,900
the record of Michael Smith, nine year residents, taxpayer and property owner

569
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:17,820
in Carson City. Philippians 2 and 3 says it best. Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit.

570
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:24,320
But in humility, count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to

571
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:30,100
his own interests, but also to the interests of others. As you consider a resolution authorised

572
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:36,580
an appropriation of a 30-year lease purchased agreement up to 30 million of probably escalated

573
00:59:36,580 --> 00:59:43,140
higher. On this city hall project, an interest rate estimated that 5% of higher by the non-profit

574
00:59:43,140 --> 00:59:48,820
hot and may add them's foundation. Before a project of this enormous magnitude with

575
00:59:48,820 --> 00:59:55,680
under a population of 60,000 people, the residents of Carson City should see a comprehensive

576
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,880
independent comparison of the alternatives.

577
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,000
It isn't about rationale that city employees are opposing every carcin city investment. When each of you

578
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:13,780
were elected, you relied on your constituents to weigh their options and decide who be the best

579
01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:20,340
candidate for them before cashing their vote. And as a result of those ballots, they voted for each

580
01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:26,900
of you in office. Now, is your time to consider those same constituents and to hear their

581
01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:33,200
of reasoning and concerns if they were so astute to vote for you then,

582
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,820
let's be astute in listening to the citizens.

583
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:41,280
That's called representation, not the appearance of represented your constituency.

584
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,040
This is about asking a very basic question.

585
01:00:45,620 --> 01:00:51,120
Showed his citizens exactly why this particular project is the best solution.

586
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:57,580
For yet in a back room deals, let's bring it to the sunlight for citizens to see, show

587
01:00:57,580 --> 01:01:03,520
us a calls to analysis, what do you have to hide? Tax spares will be on the hook,

588
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:11,920
but 30 years. We demand to see options, I.E. Repurpose existing buildings, renovate existing

589
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:18,540
facilities, and they're calls associated with those options. Carson City resident should

590
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:23,780
have a meaningful voice before such a long-term commitment is made.

591
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,600
These are questions that should be answered before and not after Carson City commits

592
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,140
to this financial undertaken.

593
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:39,960
Mayer and supervisors, I employ you to do the right being by offering a referendum to bring

594
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,160
this to the citizens for you vote.

595
01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:47,820
Remember, this is our city, our money, our voice.

596
01:01:47,820 --> 01:01:51,840
the most importantly, our vote. Thank you very much.

597
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:53,900
Let's dress her.

598
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,820
Pepsi's draws for Carson City resident.

599
01:01:57,220 --> 01:02:00,620
Well, I couldn't have said it any better than Michael Smith.

600
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,600
So I'm not going to try.

601
01:02:04,980 --> 01:02:07,440
The citizens, the residents of this town,

602
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,800
has asked for a comparative analysis.

603
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,820
It is still pending. It's a standing request.

604
01:02:12,820 --> 01:02:26,840
And we've heard that the last time the B of A building was considered when Nancy Polson was the city manager in July 2021 as of last week.

605
01:02:27,340 --> 01:02:35,660
Another proposal came from the same building and we would like to see that standing against this proposal.

606
01:02:35,660 --> 01:02:46,040
At the March 19 meeting there was a lot of conversation about cost per square foot renovation versus the building new.

607
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:58,660
What I found out is that the courthouse renovation is approximately $700 per square foot for level one and level two.

608
01:02:58,660 --> 01:03:09,480
first story, second story renovation as I look at the 30 million over 45,000 square feet that is approximately the same.

609
01:03:10,340 --> 01:03:20,160
So why not take advantage of all the empty buildings that we so hate to have in Carson City and use that instead of

610
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:28,860
covering the residents for 30 years, sure what the real alternatives are in detail and in

611
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:36,340
writing versus a tabletop discussion among city staff and then a tickmark chart that we don't

612
01:03:36,340 --> 01:03:46,220
know where the background is. Which came first? The HMFA, HMAF proposal and then everything else

613
01:03:46,220 --> 01:03:55,040
done to fit into that envelope as we found out and I said before we really need to know what

614
01:03:55,040 --> 01:04:03,640
that legally available funds are. As the mayor said, what where when et cetera. Yes, it gives

615
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:12,060
you flexibility but given the history of this project, too much flexibility is not good for the

616
01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:18,840
it's obscure and it hides the facts that JNA reports says that they are

617
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:24,820
other cheaper alternatives. The amortization that service schedules shows a 5%

618
01:04:25,860 --> 01:04:32,200
interest rate, yet the federal credit union term sheet said prime minus 1 and

619
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:39,660
then prime was 6.75 as of last Friday. So the other thing is that they have to

620
01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:44,900
via justification for using this installment purchase agreement.

621
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,200
The justifications are all subjective.

622
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:55,320
Well, we got to honor the move date of March 2029 for the Plurcrop Order.

623
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,960
the HMFF incurred upfront project cost of.

624
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,300
So we don't have to pay any more. Well, we are. We are reimbursing them. Thank you, Ms. Trusper.

625
01:05:07,180 --> 01:05:16,740
Thank you. I submitted this in the right order. Thank you. If there's anyone else that's going to make public comment, you can come up to the chairs to me.

626
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:25,760
Hi, I'm Martha Sanchez for the record. Just want to talk about what ifs and just ask more questions, because that's the fun stuff.

627
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:32,540
Something that concerns me greatly is future appropriations, so future boards, future mayors.

628
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,060
For those appropriations, we heard that those appropriations can be reconsidered.

629
01:05:38,140 --> 01:05:40,800
Nearly, and if not made, what is that plan?

630
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,800
Just to have those plans documented.

631
01:05:44,620 --> 01:05:46,280
I think that's a very important.

632
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,400
And also, just wanted to put on the table public private partnerships.

633
01:05:52,920 --> 01:06:02,420
The potential, you know, is there to do good things and we just, I can understand the least purchase agreement at the front end because you feel as if we're moving risk from the city for the construction.

634
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:17,820
But once that turns over, you know, where we do make that purchase if that's the plan, you know, where when does risk move over completely to the constituent base that's where we can't just look at the up front.

635
01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:21,000
We also have to look at the long-term viability,

636
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,880
the sustainability of the project.

637
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:29,220
I would also consider openness, yeah, just risk.

638
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,440
You know, who is carrying that

639
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,900
and making sure that that plan is a very well-documented,

640
01:06:35,620 --> 01:06:38,720
I think that there needs to be much more public discourse.

641
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,960
We need to see the financials,

642
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,780
and we need to see how those assumptions are made.

643
01:06:48,330 --> 01:06:54,990
Garrett. Mayor Bagwell, supervisors, my name is Garrett LePier, and I'm here speaking on behalf

644
01:06:54,990 --> 01:07:01,310
of myself and not for any entity that I represent or I'm a part of. I'm a born and raised

645
01:07:01,310 --> 01:07:06,870
Carson City resident. I've spent 26 years in real estate and I hold the CCIM designation,

646
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:12,410
which is the commercial analysis credential. So let me talk about this the way I talk to a client

647
01:07:12,410 --> 01:07:15,170
about deciding whether to remodel or rebuild.

648
01:07:16,210 --> 01:07:18,350
I hear the same objection everywhere I go.

649
01:07:18,770 --> 01:07:19,910
It costs too much.

650
01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:21,950
And I'd ask a simple question back.

651
01:07:22,550 --> 01:07:23,890
Compared to what?

652
01:07:24,530 --> 01:07:26,730
Because your own staff already ran in analysis,

653
01:07:27,490 --> 01:07:29,770
expanding the existing building on Carson Street,

654
01:07:30,010 --> 01:07:31,930
priced out at around 37 million.

655
01:07:32,590 --> 01:07:34,730
And staff flagged it as the most expensive option,

656
01:07:34,930 --> 01:07:35,750
per square foot.

657
01:07:36,430 --> 01:07:39,250
Because the first floor would need extensive retrofitting

658
01:07:39,250 --> 01:07:41,210
just to carry additional floors.

659
01:07:41,810 --> 01:07:51,430
The new build is authorized at 30 million, that's not a close call, that's seven million dollars more to end up with a former bank building wearing a new hat.

660
01:07:52,510 --> 01:08:04,390
I do this math for sellers every week. When a building's bones aren't designed for what you're asking them to do, retrofits cost just don't add up. They compound. You open a wall, you find something.

661
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:16,690
You add load, you rebuild what's underneath it, and when you're finished, you spent new construction money on a used building and you still own every deferred maintenance problem that you started with.

662
01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:19,890
In my business, that's the most expensive way to save money.

663
01:08:21,210 --> 01:08:29,710
Second, the money is an interchangeable. The bulk of the early funding is redevelopment dollars, and those are restricted to redevelopment district by law.

664
01:08:29,710 --> 01:08:36,590
They can't be redirected to patrol cars or road-paving and property taxes aren't being raised for this.

665
01:08:36,850 --> 01:08:39,710
So just spend it on something else really isn't on the menu.

666
01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:44,070
Third, this isn't a one, this is a deadline.

667
01:08:44,910 --> 01:08:48,070
State law requires a third courthouse because our population grew.

668
01:08:48,830 --> 01:08:51,150
The courthouse remodel makes room for it.

669
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:53,270
And that pushes the clerk recorder out.

670
01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:56,630
Those people have to go somewhere by 2029.

671
01:08:56,630 --> 01:09:03,350
do nothing has a price tag too. It just never shows up on a slide. And last I

672
01:09:03,350 --> 01:09:08,190
sell this town for a living. I show buyers a downtown that has come a very long way

673
01:09:08,190 --> 01:09:14,730
in 10 years. Putting city services behind one door downtown next to hundreds of

674
01:09:14,730 --> 01:09:18,990
millions in private investment is the kind of decision that shows up in property

675
01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:24,590
values decades from now. Please vote yes. Thank you for your time.

676
01:09:24,590 --> 01:09:27,410
Thank you. Do I have anyone else?

677
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:37,980
Again, if there's anyone else just so I can judge, come on up and take the empty seats.

678
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:39,900
It's Preston.

679
01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:42,720
Hi, I have a record, Terry Preston.

680
01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:45,880
And although I...

681
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:52,620
Mr. Gopier and I are in the same business and I've been there probably twice as long.

682
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,740
And one of the things that I do is I sit down with my clients and I say,

683
01:09:56,740 --> 01:09:59,860
What is the need? Let's get back to the need.

684
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:12,420
The need is 11,700 and square feet. That's for a courthouse. It's not 30,000 square feet. It's not a parking garage. It's 11,700 square feet.

685
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:20,620
That could be accommodated in our existing building. But what we're looking at is we're looking at a debt service that is incredible.

686
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:30,820
When I look at working with my clients right now, I would never at this point in time suggest that somebody build a building.

687
01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:38,240
Not with interest rates as they are, not as the economy, not as far as war, not as taking something off of the downtown.

688
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:45,900
I've heard rumors about this and rumors about that and they're going to buy this and they're going to buy that and there's going to be an offset.

689
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:49,480
There is nothing been tangible put in front of us.

690
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:55,500
When I look at this, I do not see the need except for 11,700 square feet.

691
01:10:56,460 --> 01:10:58,420
That could be accommodated in the night court.

692
01:10:58,660 --> 01:11:02,460
Anybody that's spent any time in our courts realize that a lot of the court is

693
01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:06,880
had done on video and it could be accommodated in the evening

694
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,080
when it actually people are available.

695
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:12,340
This to me seems to be a ridiculous situation.

696
01:11:12,340 --> 01:11:18,460
We have a situation where you're talking about adding $2.5 million to streamline the court

697
01:11:18,460 --> 01:11:18,980
systems.

698
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:20,640
Is that going to eliminate people?

699
01:11:21,180 --> 01:11:23,320
Is that going to eliminate people that need space?

700
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,980
Gosh, could you possibly pick some of that in our gallery?

701
01:11:27,420 --> 01:11:28,880
Could you pick some of it up in the plaza?

702
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:42,140
This to me is a huge problem, as far as tying us up for 30 years with unknowns, with unknown

703
01:11:42,140 --> 01:11:46,840
interest. I'm one of these people I've lived during the time that they actually had to bring

704
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,900
useria from 12 percent. That's why your credit cards went from 10 percent to 24 percent.

705
01:11:52,920 --> 01:12:01,500
There is no cap on the prime minus one. And these are things that would like to be recouped.

706
01:12:01,740 --> 01:12:07,440
So I would really like you to think about this. This is not a residential purchase.

707
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:10,580
This is not one where we're doing equity.

708
01:12:11,180 --> 01:12:15,260
This is one where we can't have equity until we purchase it.

709
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,700
So why don't we purchase it from the get go of it?

710
01:12:17,780 --> 01:12:18,760
It's truly a need.

711
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:19,880
Thank you.

712
01:12:20,860 --> 01:12:21,940
Do I

713
01:12:37,010 --> 01:12:38,590
need to push the button?

714
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:40,330
Thank you.

715
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:45,670
My name is Dan Lacka, but I'm a resident since 2006.

716
01:12:46,710 --> 01:12:49,570
I'm a licensed real estate appraiser in the state of Nevada.

717
01:12:49,570 --> 01:12:57,070
The least purchase agreement indicates that the city will secure a 30 year 5% obligation

718
01:12:57,070 --> 01:13:01,730
bind to finance the acquisition of the new city hall building.

719
01:13:02,270 --> 01:13:07,570
Payments over the term are projected approach to $2 million a year with full ownership

720
01:13:07,570 --> 01:13:11,190
transferring to the city in 2057.

721
01:13:12,530 --> 01:13:18,150
Given my 50 years of experience in real estate and banking industry, several material deficiencies

722
01:13:18,150 --> 01:13:22,890
are evidence in the proposals of financing structure of this package.

723
01:13:23,930 --> 01:13:30,090
First, financing package contains no discussion of the financial impact associated with the parking garage.

724
01:13:31,150 --> 01:13:37,490
Notwithstanding the city's most recent financial report identifies a cost of the garage to be $8 million.

725
01:13:38,990 --> 01:13:45,630
The omission of any analysis regarding ownership, funding responsibility, or operational costs,

726
01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:50,850
prevents the complete understanding of the city's total financial exposure.

727
01:13:52,210 --> 01:13:57,970
Finally, the city's financial analysis relies on a best-case interest rate,

728
01:13:58,290 --> 01:14:06,090
assumption of 5%. The resolution authorizes an interest rate up to 3% above,

729
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:12,150
what they say is the index of revenue bonds based on this scenario.

730
01:14:12,150 --> 01:14:22,330
This could increase the total project cost to approximately $80 million, substantially higher than the city's

731
01:14:22,330 --> 01:14:33,010
state-adestimate of $55 million. This $25 million discrepancy represents additional taxpayer liability

732
01:14:33,010 --> 01:14:38,670
that has not been disclosed or addressed in the current proposal.

733
01:14:39,570 --> 01:14:59,130
Since none of these items are included in your lease purchase agreement, that will be presented to the Carson City debt management commission or the State Department of Taxation, it will be virtually impossible for those board members to truly assess the overall debt impact of the project.

734
01:15:00,270 --> 01:15:15,530
It's worth noting, although the city will not hold feet title to the City Hall property until the final payment is made, it will acquire a lease hold ownership in the interests of the property.

735
01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:28,250
Undoubtedly, you are aware of NRS 244-275. This addresses a county authority to purchase or lease real property and expressively.

736
01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:36,490
requires that an appraisal be obtained to date no appraisal or preliminary value has been prepared for

737
01:15:36,490 --> 01:15:44,490
the overall city hall project. Why? Thank you. Do I have any other public comment?

738
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:50,590
This is Meloney. Again, if there's anyone else please take a chair. Thank you.

739
01:15:54,740 --> 01:15:58,020
Morning. Good morning. My name is Lusha Meloney. I'm a Carson City resident.

740
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,220
I want to be really clear that I supported the Town Square Project.

741
01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:07,280
I think that redeveloping the parking lot behind the nugget,

742
01:16:07,540 --> 01:16:10,480
which is one of the most dangerous dark and creepiest parts

743
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,660
of our downtown is fantastic.

744
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:13,920
I think it's a great idea.

745
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,140
I was very supportive of the Town Square idea, right?

746
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,680
A plaza where we can gather.

747
01:16:20,340 --> 01:16:22,340
I love going to the Brewer Center concerts.

748
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,160
I love how the community gathers.

749
01:16:24,740 --> 01:16:26,180
I don't know how many here were there.

750
01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:30,540
At that concert, the last one of the season, it was, it made you cry, right?

751
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,860
The community helped me together and the idea that we'd have another space like that

752
01:16:33,860 --> 01:16:39,180
is great. What's not great for me is this idea now that the plaza might go away.

753
01:16:40,220 --> 01:16:46,640
What's not great for me now is that, you know, just to be super clear for the public, we did a

754
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,160
parking study of downtown and if you want to go online to the Regional Transportation Commission

755
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:56,660
July 8th 2020 meeting, we presented the findings which are parking downtown is adequate.

756
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:02,840
The findings also say parking downtown relies on the parking at Master Street at that other

757
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:09,100
all these little side streets that are now going to be taken away to build the parking garage that we say we need

758
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:15,380
for eight million dollars. A study has not been done to show why we need the parking garage and I think the

759
01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:25,260
public deserves that. I'll say also, you know, Lisa, you were elected because you are different

760
01:17:25,260 --> 01:17:31,440
and you are a kind and trustworthy human. Curtis, you're my bud, man, you're great. You're

761
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:38,620
good, dude. Mo, people like you. You speak the truth and just like me, right? Stay

762
01:17:38,620 --> 01:17:45,540
you're a good person. People like you. But this is a bad decision. And at least one of you

763
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:51,920
know that you've been advised more than half of the community doesn't want it. And you know,

764
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:57,020
I think you all know that if you take it to the public, it's not going to pass. Good people can

765
01:17:57,020 --> 01:18:02,560
make bad decisions. And I know that in government, once a ball starts rolling downhill, it's hard

766
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:08,260
to stop. But you don't have to make that decision today. Ask staff to put together a clear

767
01:18:08,260 --> 01:18:17,400
package of why it's needed, make it transparent the information that you all have received that are making you vote yes, make it clear and package for the public.

768
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:22,140
I think everyone deserves that. You don't have to vote today like this.

769
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:24,580
And I think we need a parking study.

770
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:33,100
I think we need a traffic impact study of what happens to Stewart Street when the 400 vehicles that are parking in the garage are driving on Stewart.

771
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,720
I think we deserve that.

772
01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:36,040
Please don't make a bad decision.

773
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:41,120
you guys are good people. Thank you. Do I have any other?

774
01:18:44,050 --> 01:18:45,810
Okay then I'm going to close the

775
01:18:45,810 --> 01:18:53,090
public hearing and bring it back up here for any further discussion and I do have one

776
01:18:53,690 --> 01:19:04,450
for bond council because it's been brought up several times and that you lined out other options

777
01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:11,310
and other financing opportunities and you put dates that you could accomplish it if a bond

778
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:16,150
could be sold, et cetera, et cetera, that I could do this in three months, or I could do that

779
01:19:16,150 --> 01:19:34,430
in six months. But my question really is to sell those bonds or those mechanisms, do we have to

780
01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:37,930
Peter's in with Jane, a consulting group for the record, Mayor, you're correct.

781
01:19:38,530 --> 01:19:43,970
The concept behind a revenue bond, a general obligation revenue bond, is that the city owns

782
01:19:43,970 --> 01:19:47,130
the building at the time that those bonds are issued.

783
01:19:48,250 --> 01:19:54,250
And so that's why I think that's a huge distinction between that and this proposal of the

784
01:19:54,250 --> 01:19:58,110
lease purchase, because this lease purchase does not require that ownership structure.

785
01:19:58,910 --> 01:19:59,090
All right.

786
01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:59,730
Thank you.

787
01:19:59,730 --> 01:19:59,970
I just...

788
01:20:00,980 --> 01:20:30,480
Like I said earlier, I think it's complex and I just want to stress to the public. It's not that I don't understand your questions or your concerns or I think this whole board does. It's just many things are a process and a step, right? And you do this and then you do that and then you do this and I get how difficult it is to put that all together.

789
01:20:31,060 --> 01:20:36,140
Um, but did you want to comment some more for the record Ryan Henry from Taflott?

790
01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:39,360
A mayor bag. Well, I was just going to add add to John's point.

791
01:20:39,660 --> 01:20:44,420
So, you know, it would be possible if the city was to issue its own bond to use those

792
01:20:44,420 --> 01:20:53,120
bond proceeds to acquire the land. However, it would, uh, own the land up front versus post construction

793
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,640
with the least purchase agreement gives the, the city the flexibility to do. I think another

794
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:04,580
important point to make on the record is just to confirm about the sequence of events here.

795
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,960
We are still at the early authorization stages of this process.

796
01:21:09,580 --> 01:21:12,860
The city needs to get approval from the Carson City Department of Management Commission

797
01:21:12,860 --> 01:21:17,200
and then the Department of Taxation. And then we'll be coming back before this board,

798
01:21:17,340 --> 01:21:21,740
at least two times for two readings for an ordinance which will approve the actual

799
01:21:21,740 --> 01:21:26,180
these purchase agreement. And so over the past couple of meetings I've heard comments

800
01:21:26,180 --> 01:21:33,360
about lack of details, about various items, and those details will be included in the least

801
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,880
purchase agreement that's eventually approved by this board.

802
01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:40,280
But at this early stage, we're in the authorization proceeding.

803
01:21:40,660 --> 01:21:45,440
So for that reason, there's a certain details where there's flexibility provided to the

804
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:52,040
city, including the interest rate, comment that was made, state law determines a statutory

805
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:58,740
maximum. The city has to provide an estimated interest rate to the Department of Taxation when it looks at this proposal.

806
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:03,720
That estimated interest rate has been included at 5% which John can talk about.

807
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,440
But when we come back to the board with the actual lease purchase agreement,

808
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:13,160
our intent is to have an interest rate determined and that will be a fixed interest rate.

809
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:18,000
And so it won't be any any type of floating rate or unknown at that point in time.

810
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:36,280
It's just when we go through this authorization process, there's parameters we have to set such as the maximum principle amount estimated interest rate, you know, anticipated repayment source and then there's additional details that will be included with the actual least purchase agreement that this board approved.

811
01:22:36,580 --> 01:22:46,460
So I just I want to put that on the record because, you know, this is just just like any other type of obligation that's in its early stages of authorization.

812
01:22:47,380 --> 01:22:51,460
there are details that ultimately don't come until later.

813
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:53,880
Thank you.

814
01:22:54,220 --> 01:22:57,880
Mayor, for supervisors, John Peterson, which I think is holding for the record.

815
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,960
I just want to point out that the 5% is part of the proposal from the hop and may Adams Foundation.

816
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:08,200
So the 5% is not a number that we plucked out of the air that is a proposal from them.

817
01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:11,700
That's why we're using 5% and to Ryan's point.

818
01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:18,720
I think there are a lot of things in this resolution that are covering elements of state law,

819
01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:24,780
whether it's the fact that the interest rate could be up to this, you know, revenue bond index,

820
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:29,120
plus 3%, there was a comment or a question earlier about reimbursement.

821
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:34,960
Again, this is stuff that we are, that we're putting into this resolution to make sure that

822
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,080
ultimately when the city finances this, that there's flexibility that we don't come to some point

823
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,600
in the future and go, oh wait, I really wish I would have done this.

824
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,040
It doesn't commit the city to pay revenue bond index plus three percent.

825
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,420
It doesn't commit the city to reimburse itself for any expenditures.

826
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:51,800
It just gives us the options.

827
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:58,900
So again, as Ryan pointed out, when we bring this, the final proposal to the board,

828
01:23:59,020 --> 01:24:02,500
all of this information will be laid out, all of the details will be there.

829
01:24:03,180 --> 01:24:09,800
And do want to ask just for a little bit of flexibility because this is not the final time

830
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,800
that we're coming to this board.

831
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:24,520
I think it's kind of interesting throughout the life cycle of this entire process that

832
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,560
the public always wants to see the sausage being made, right?

833
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:36,780
And so you're seeing the sausage being made and it feels on one side that it's drip, drip,

834
01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:41,520
You're right, and I'm getting another piece, and I'm getting another piece, and I'm getting another piece.

835
01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:54,800
But that's the reality, because until we get to the final lease agreement, it's self, which will do all the defining component pieces, it's hard.

836
01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:59,980
And that's why I said, I have empathy for every single point that you're all making.

837
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:12,400
Making is, before we get to the final decision of this board, many of those things will happen, but we won't see it till the end.

838
01:25:12,740 --> 01:25:23,260
And the thought process is, here, this is an authorization that looks out to say, can I even go down the road?

839
01:25:23,260 --> 01:25:33,380
And it, to me, doesn't even matter if it is a city hall in this location, it would be no different than it was the Bank of America bill.

840
01:25:33,380 --> 01:25:38,940
It doesn't matter what building. It doesn't matter if it was one of Terry's buildings that she suggested.

841
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:49,400
It doesn't matter if it's a remodel. If I were looking to determine whether I could pay for it, this is a piece of a step that would be there.

842
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:55,740
Right, we could just change the name out. Like you said, we did Centennial Park. We've done lots of

843
01:25:56,440 --> 01:26:03,580
debt instruments throughout the life cycle of Carson City. And so what this is is the authorization

844
01:26:03,580 --> 01:26:12,540
to say we have the dollars available within the structure to be able to build a city hall.

845
01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:17,600
That's what this says. It doesn't mean we're pulled the trigger or that I have all the details

846
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,880
to the actual lease purchase agreement.

847
01:26:21,980 --> 01:26:26,460
So when we get that, all those other components will be there.

848
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,760
And I just want to make sure this is, right?

849
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,380
Standard, it's the normal process.

850
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:38,140
It's not different or unusual or just...

851
01:26:38,140 --> 01:26:38,880
John Peters.

852
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:41,420
John Peters somewhat Jane A consulting group for the record.

853
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,440
Mayor, I think that is accurate.

854
01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:45,320
I mean, there is a process.

855
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:52,100
And as you mentioned, the city has financed other projects earlier, I'd referenced the John D. Winters Park Project.

856
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:57,120
You know, we financed years ago, the emergency operations center.

857
01:26:57,660 --> 01:27:01,300
At some point, we were in a similar position on those projects as we are today,

858
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,240
where, you know, we have some estimates of what this thing looks like.

859
01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:08,560
Here's the proposal. Here's, you know, here's basically the affordability for the city to do this.

860
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,620
We'd like permission to then take the next steps and to follow the law,

861
01:27:12,620 --> 01:27:20,600
to ultimately get to the final presentation of here's what it actually is. And for this project, we anticipate that's going to be later this fall in October and November.

862
01:27:21,340 --> 01:27:24,600
Okay, thank you. So any other members have a question.

863
01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:26,600
Got comment.

864
01:27:28,260 --> 01:27:29,140
I'm not seeing raised hands.

865
01:27:31,660 --> 01:27:33,460
Supervisor White, did you come to come?

866
01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:37,040
Just a clarification on what we're doing today.

867
01:27:38,220 --> 01:27:41,180
We had public comment during

868
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:55,460
This portion of the agenda item where we have further public comment when we're done with this portion of the agenda item.

869
01:27:55,460 --> 01:27:58,300
No, we close the public hearing.

870
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,180
Public comment is closed for this item.

871
01:28:03,180 --> 01:28:04,380
Item 14A.

872
01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:05,540
Okay.

873
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:06,660
Thank you.

874
01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:14,200
Okay, then is the board ready to make a motion?

875
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,320
Here, again, any comments?

876
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:19,880
Supervisor Shootie?

877
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:29,240
I moved to adopt resolution number 2026-R-23.

878
01:28:31,340 --> 01:28:33,900
I have a motion in a second on discussion.

879
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:35,020
Supervisor White.

880
01:28:36,940 --> 01:28:37,360
Thank you.

881
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:51,400
As usual, I had a fairly well thought-out prepared statement to make on this agenda item, and at this point I really don't even know where to begin.

882
01:28:55,150 --> 01:29:08,730
We had a motion on July 16th that this board should receive and by implication in the public an explanation of the legality of the redevelopment authority money.

883
01:29:10,090 --> 01:29:13,930
First of all, we have not received that explanation.

884
01:29:13,930 --> 01:29:32,850
We had a verbal dissertation today that I can imagine how we would be expected to receive and digest that explanation in a manner that would allow us to make a good decision today.

885
01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:59,960
Secondly, the fact that we received that verbal explanation today leads me to believe that my concerns and questions on July 16 regarding the RDA expenditures, I will take today.

886
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,140
Today's delivery of that verbal explanation of as an affirmation that I was right. We can't spend RDA money in the manner that was being suggested.

887
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:24,020
Today we are suddenly told that we're not talking about RDA debt yet we might still spend RDA money on this proposed debt.

888
01:30:27,250 --> 01:30:37,070
You have thrown substantial more shadow on this financing than we had before, and I can tell you,

889
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:40,890
I am even more opposed to this situation.

890
01:30:42,270 --> 01:30:51,990
We had better, less expensive options on the table by expanding the courthouse, and that's exactly what we should do.

891
01:30:55,820 --> 01:30:58,840
All those in favor, please say aye.

892
01:30:58,980 --> 01:31:01,120
Aye. Any opposed, say no?

893
01:31:01,740 --> 01:31:02,120
No.

894
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,600
Let the record reflect it was four yeses and one no by supervisor.

895
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:08,200
Thank you.

896
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:17,160
We're now going to go to agenda item 15A, which is discussion and possible action to adopt on second reading.

897
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:25,540
Bill No. 1-09, which is the ordinance repealing the provisions covering the Carson City Center project.

898
01:31:28,180 --> 01:31:34,680
Mr. Martell, have we had any additional information or changes from the first reading?

899
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,460
No, may or may have not.

900
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,240
Does any member have any questions on this?

901
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:47,600
Okay, I will accept public comment on this item.

902
01:31:52,300 --> 01:31:53,100
Let's see.

903
01:31:56,540 --> 01:31:57,840
Pepsi, Straussburg.

904
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:07,020
The audience says that no public funding can be used for the proposed Carson City Center.

905
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:15,020
Commonly known as the Nugget Economic Development Project on the Nugget 2.0

906
01:32:15,020 --> 01:32:17,460
without a majority vote of the people

907
01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:19,680
approving such public funding.

908
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,940
The board, 2012 Board of Supervisors

909
01:32:24,940 --> 01:32:29,320
elected to adopt this ordinance in 2012,

910
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,120
even though they were advised by the DA,

911
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,740
that the initial ordinance language

912
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:37,420
as submitted was likely unlawful,

913
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,760
because it sought to oversee the spending power

914
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,480
of the board as granted by the state statutory

915
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:51,040
provisions, but they still did it because they knew that it was a safeguard for the people

916
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:59,920
and they honored the people's right to have a say on public funding. And we are seeing over

917
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:10,820
on over again that this board is trying to do things without disclosing everything as well as

918
01:33:10,820 --> 01:33:20,200
during a justification, so today that safeguard is even more important because this board needs

919
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:27,560
to hear the voice of the people. And that's the same voice that elected all of you. Do

920
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:34,760
you believe in the voice of the people? As simple rewrite would accomplish taking the obsolete

921
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:41,620
language out. No public funding shall be used for project in Carson City on private property

922
01:33:41,620 --> 01:33:47,040
without a majority vote of the people approving the funding. This is a simple change.

923
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:56,700
And please, that would allow us to take this city hall and parking structure to a vote of the

924
01:33:56,700 --> 01:34:04,580
public, let Carson vote and have our say in how we use our tax dollars. Thank you so much.

925
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:05,860
Thank you, Miss Senata.

926
01:34:08,380 --> 01:34:16,060
Mary Senata, I was unable to attend the meeting on the first reading, so I thought I would

927
01:34:16,060 --> 01:34:25,600
add my voice today before you approve this, which apparently you're going to do in spite of what

928
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:37,000
any basis. The initiative clearly represented the citizens desire to have a voice on voting

929
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,140
on these type of projects.

930
01:34:41,860 --> 01:34:45,700
If you really want to listen to the citizens of this city,

931
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:54,140
then instead of repealing this ordinance, you should change the language as suggested by

932
01:34:54,140 --> 01:34:59,980
strawsberg, and keep it on the books, and let us look.

933
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,940
Let us vote.

934
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:06,500
Thank you.

935
01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:11,170
Do you have any other public comment?

936
01:35:13,390 --> 01:35:19,390
Nope, nope, nope, nope. Sorry, if you're handing anything

937
01:35:19,390 --> 01:35:25,850
out, there's rules for all that kind of stuff because I have to have public opportunity and stuff

938
01:35:25,850 --> 01:35:35,750
review so. Sorry. You want to look at it first. Yeah. Oh, I was going to say sorry, but we just can't do that.

939
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:57,200
We have as you heard today how many different kinds of laws and rules and things we have. So it's got to be reviewed by Council for timing. Thank you. Miss Owens. Sandra Owens for the record. Um, so.

940
01:35:57,420 --> 01:36:07,620
The CCMC244010, no public funding shall be used for the proposed city, Carson City Center project,

941
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:13,080
without the majority vote of the people approving with such public funding.

942
01:36:13,700 --> 01:36:21,200
Staff's reason was that the 2012 project is obsolete, different building, different financing, left of a code, no physical impact.

943
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,800
Here's what the landlord filled in with the internal revenue service while that repeal was being prepared.

944
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:40,740
A hop-in-may Adams Foundation, EIN-271393314 on their Form 990PF, and if you go to page 11, Part 5, or Part 7B,

945
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:47,340
Adams City Center LLC was formed for the development of the Carson City Center to bring tourism

946
01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:53,080
in business to downtown Carson City. It holds a commercial property located at 310 North

947
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:59,380
George Street, Carson City, the year's charitable investments include tenant and common area improvements

948
01:36:59,380 --> 01:37:06,840
as well as development costs for the future City Center project in downtown Carson City.

949
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:13,100
Same three words, Carson City Center, same block behind the nugget, same foundation that it was

950
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:19,480
in the 2012 deal, same season, you voted a term sheet and then deleted the vote rule.

951
01:37:19,480 --> 01:37:26,600
The only manager on the Nevada Secretary of State record for the Adam City Center LLC is Steve

952
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:27,160
Neighbors.

953
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:35,180
The foundation is a party that told the IRS to put money into the LLC for the City Center

954
01:37:35,180 --> 01:37:35,800
Project.

955
01:37:36,540 --> 01:37:40,380
You can tell this room that the 2012 Library Project is dead.

956
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:41,020
That is true.

957
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,400
You can not tell this room that the name is dead.

958
01:37:43,780 --> 01:37:46,740
The landlord is still using it on his federal tax return.

959
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:53,120
Staff called this housekeeping housekeeping is taking a dead name out of the code.

960
01:37:53,740 --> 01:38:00,640
You're taking the vote out of the code in the same season landlord till the IRS, the city center project is still ahead.

961
01:38:01,420 --> 01:38:07,740
This is not housekeeping. This is asking the room to treat a name as obsolete when the federal return still uses it.

962
01:38:07,740 --> 01:38:23,980
vote no on the second reading leave cc mc 2440 one zero where it is but the project on the ballot as the city intended 14 years ago and just let Carson vote on this

963
01:38:23,980 --> 01:38:27,100
Do I have any other of the comment?

964
01:38:28,020 --> 01:38:31,300
Okay, bring it back up here for the discussion or emotion.

965
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:38,880
I move to adopt on 2nd reading bill number 109, ordinance number 2026-12.

966
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:47,220
I have a motion in a second for approval on discussion supervisor wait.

967
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,740
Thank you.

968
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:53,660
It's my opinion.

969
01:38:53,660 --> 01:39:09,600
And I believe it is based very solidly on what went on when CCMC 2.44.010 was put in place.

970
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:19,660
I believe there is no nexus between that project and this project, regardless of the name of any entities that flowed around.

971
01:39:19,660 --> 01:39:22,720
I will say this, though.

972
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:34,020
There is nothing stopping somebody from reviving that 2012 project, a previous board recognized

973
01:39:34,020 --> 01:39:38,660
the residence desire and took action to enshrine that desire.

974
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:49,020
TCMC 2.44.010 was put in place for a very good reason and it should be left in place.

975
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:59,960
On the motion, all those in favour, please say aye, aye, any opposed, say no, let the record reflect it was.

976
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,700
Four yeses in one supervisor way. Thank you. We're now going to move on to agenda item 15B, discussion and

977
01:40:09,700 --> 01:40:17,300
possible action regarding a proposal from Adam CC Development LLC. Holy owned by the

978
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:23,700
hop in the Adams Foundation to develop, construct maintain and operate a parking facility for vehicles

979
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:32,480
down town and the proposed proposal. Mr. Martell, are you going to start us off on this one?

980
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:36,900
Yes, Mayor, thank you. As has been discussed quite a bit this morning.

981
01:40:40,970 --> 01:40:51,700
Oh, I understood you put it on the back table for public. You know what? You can have mine.

982
01:40:51,700 --> 01:40:54,320
Absolutely, I will,

983
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:16,350
it was place there. I'm sorry that there was an abunch and just so that the

984
01:41:16,350 --> 01:41:22,570
public understands, that's one of the reasons that everything has to be reviewed so that we can

985
01:41:22,570 --> 01:41:26,390
ensure that the public has gotten the material.

986
01:41:28,430 --> 01:41:32,030
Sorry, sorry that a snatch to before you,

987
01:41:32,030 --> 01:41:33,910
see that they got their first.

988
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,580
Okay, well there was one in the there's one but sorry.

989
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:55,280
Oh,

990
01:42:00,570 --> 01:42:04,750
I'm sorry I completely misunderstood what you were asking for.

991
01:42:07,130 --> 01:42:12,470
There we don't have that we don't even have that we're looking at it with you at the same time on the screen.

992
01:42:14,890 --> 01:42:22,110
it's not. They, they will post often times later anything that they did. They can post

993
01:42:22,810 --> 01:42:27,050
on an agenda, but we don't have this either. I'm terribly sorry, Beth. See, I misunderstood

994
01:42:27,050 --> 01:42:36,210
what you were asking for. I thought you wanted me out as handout. Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Martell.

995
01:42:36,650 --> 01:42:42,070
Thank you, Madam Mayor. As I started to say, as was discussed quite a bit here this morning,

996
01:42:42,070 --> 01:42:47,450
This is the next step in this program, as the board has directed twice to your team.

997
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:51,570
We have continued to do our due diligence and look at both the site and the arrangements

998
01:42:51,570 --> 01:42:55,370
and the agreements that may be necessary to continue to move this project forward.

999
01:42:56,110 --> 01:43:01,390
In our discussions with the team, what we are recommending to you today is that the public

1000
01:43:01,390 --> 01:43:04,470
private partnership is the best way to move this project forward.

1001
01:43:05,010 --> 01:43:10,450
As a part of that public private partnership program under NRS, this is the first step

1002
01:43:10,450 --> 01:43:16,590
that you can authorize should you choose to do so to direct your team to move forward based on this

1003
01:43:16,590 --> 01:43:20,770
proposal from the hop and may have a foundation in their subsidiaries at on the property.

1004
01:43:21,450 --> 01:43:25,910
So this is another step in that transparency, if you will, and moving in what I'd like to show

1005
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:30,930
up here again to today has been discussed again, a lot of the moving pieces that we have

1006
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:37,490
that would follow based on your last action, the debt management commission will hear the report

1007
01:43:37,490 --> 01:43:42,970
next Thursday on September 10th. On September 30th, the item we are talking about today

1008
01:43:42,970 --> 01:43:48,030
if you should choose to approve this proposal, this parking garage would actually be at your

1009
01:43:48,030 --> 01:43:53,210
planning commission on September 30th, both for the parking garage itself as well as the required

1010
01:43:53,210 --> 01:43:58,210
right away at the end of and it has been previously discussed with this board. As was discussed earlier

1011
01:43:58,210 --> 01:44:04,410
today as well on October 15th, we are planning on bringing you today as of right now, your draft

1012
01:44:04,410 --> 01:44:11,110
agreements for each of the parking garage and the city hall. It is our intent that this meets the request

1013
01:44:11,110 --> 01:44:17,970
of this board and its motion from July 16th, excuse me, that we have an additional meeting

1014
01:44:17,970 --> 01:44:23,310
an opportunity to discuss it in the public and with the board here. That meeting would then be

1015
01:44:23,310 --> 01:44:28,970
followed under the current anticipated schedule. By the first reading, should you choose to move it

1016
01:44:28,970 --> 01:44:34,110
by the first reading on November 5th and the second reading on November 19th.

1017
01:44:34,210 --> 01:44:40,430
That October 15th meeting again is that extra meeting that was requested by this board in your July meeting.

1018
01:44:40,810 --> 01:44:45,950
So we believe we're meeting this board's intent by providing that extra time for oversight feedback.

1019
01:44:46,410 --> 01:44:49,270
And again, as was discussed a couple of items ago,

1020
01:44:49,570 --> 01:44:57,690
making sure that all of those details are in place that protect the city both from an ownership perspective of the land and the building in the city hall.

1021
01:44:57,690 --> 01:44:59,870
as we're discussing here today.

1022
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,980
As well as the property and underlying parking lots of, excuse me, parking spaces in the proposed parking garage that you're hearing.

1023
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:16,020
Also out there, you'll see that what we are working with with the partners as was a part of your due diligence request is we are proceeding with the CMAR process.

1024
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:25,160
This is, again, part of the program that we have to do that CMAR process is being overseen by Carol Aker's your contracted administrator.

1025
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:31,240
She has had contact with the developer and is continuing to move forward with that.

1026
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,480
But again, none of this stuff has set in stone today.

1027
01:45:33,580 --> 01:45:35,180
Any of these timelines can change.

1028
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:39,860
And should this board choose at any time between now and any point in the future,

1029
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,320
decide that this program no longer makes sense.

1030
01:45:42,700 --> 01:45:44,340
As was discussed again earlier,

1031
01:45:44,820 --> 01:45:49,780
we will certainly stop and find a plan B for the city to continue to move forward in a positive direction.

1032
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,660
With that mayor, I'd like to turn it over to Robert Nellis for his presentation.

1033
01:45:53,900 --> 01:45:54,360
Thank you.

1034
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:55,720
Thank you, Mr. Nellis.

1035
01:45:56,440 --> 01:45:58,320
Good morning, Mayor, supervisors for the record.

1036
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:01,340
City Acid Services Manager, Robert Nellis.

1037
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,440
With me as Chris McKenzie, representing Adam CC development,

1038
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:08,360
LLC, a wholly owned entity of the Hop and May Adams Foundation.

1039
01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:13,640
On July 16, the Board approved the lease purchase terms and directed staff to continue

1040
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:20,280
preparatory tasks to and pursue agreements required for the parking accommodations for the proposed new city hall.

1041
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:33,040
Staff in coordination with the District Attorney's Office and last the various legal options that would provide maximum flexibility for the city by achieving the goal of securing parking for city employees and the public.

1042
01:46:34,220 --> 01:46:46,100
A public private partnership was determined to be the preferred course of action allowing the Board to consider a proposal for a parking facility, which would not require the city to become the owner or operator after construction.

1043
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:52,660
Rear consideration today is a proposal to develop, construct, maintain and operate a parking

1044
01:46:52,660 --> 01:46:59,160
garage as a transportation facility, as defined by NRS338, if we prove staff will return

1045
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,260
to the board with an agreement for your consideration.

1046
01:47:03,380 --> 01:47:09,880
City staff and the project proponents legal counsel are here to answer any questions the board may have regarding this parking proposal.

1047
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:12,920
Does any member have a question?

1048
01:47:14,180 --> 01:47:17,900
I think I just have a general question if I can Mr. McKinsey.

1049
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,080
Thank you so much for coming today.

1050
01:47:20,660 --> 01:47:21,620
I really appreciate it.

1051
01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:28,040
We really haven't had on the record a little bit.

1052
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:29,900
And you don't have to answer anything

1053
01:47:29,900 --> 01:47:32,100
if I'm stepping somewhere I don't belong.

1054
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:33,900
You can tell me so.

1055
01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:39,600
Um, the Hop and May Adams Foundation is a 501C3?

1056
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:40,660
Yes, it's a...

1057
01:47:40,660 --> 01:47:45,920
Can you tell me what its primary purposes, why, why was it established?

1058
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:54,780
What was its goals or, I think it's important for the public that they understand why the foundation exists if you can.

1059
01:47:55,540 --> 01:47:57,900
In short, it's for the betterment of Carson City.

1060
01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:04,300
It was formed by May Adams at the end of the four G-Past.

1061
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:05,200
You said, yeah.

1062
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:06,940
Well, I'd a little, well, what are those, sir?

1063
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:07,540
That better?

1064
01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:09,420
All right, thank you.

1065
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,120
It was formed by May Adams before she passed,

1066
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,360
but it created the name of herner, deceased husband,

1067
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,720
a long time property owner of business owners here.

1068
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:24,060
And it was created at her behest for the foundation,

1069
01:48:24,620 --> 01:48:27,000
it's so purpose to be for the betterment of Carson City.

1070
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:31,780
And it's been carrying out that for several decades now.

1071
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:33,840
And this is the latest proposal.

1072
01:48:34,340 --> 01:48:36,600
I'm considered to be the,

1073
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:38,140
for the betterment of Carson City.

1074
01:48:39,020 --> 01:48:42,000
And that's why we're here and that's our sole purpose.

1075
01:48:42,980 --> 01:48:47,340
And I hope you see bit to proceed with down this path.

1076
01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:52,680
I am a Carson City resident and here for longer than I like to say over 50 years.

1077
01:48:52,680 --> 01:49:05,740
So I think this opportunity that's presented here for this parking facility is one of the first steps that would help this process move forward.

1078
01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:21,440
I think one of the other questions really comes about constantly people are asking us for comparisons and studies and this and that and all these other things but.

1079
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:28,780
They'll be all that standard requirements when a permit when they go to obtain permits.

1080
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,900
All the somebody called it check boxes earlier, that's accurate.

1081
01:49:33,220 --> 01:49:35,480
You'll have to do all the check boxes.

1082
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:41,400
There's nothing on any permits or anything that gets skipped just because you're hopping

1083
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,780
May Adams Foundation or the city.

1084
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:50,420
We have to complete every required element to get a building permit,

1085
01:49:50,420 --> 01:49:59,900
just like any other business, but one of the things that I think is unique on this.

1086
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:09,280
Because just what you said. So is the hop and may Adams foundation contributing to the project?

1087
01:50:09,440 --> 01:50:19,260
So more that you're not going to recover every single dollar that you guys put into making this project possible.

1088
01:50:19,420 --> 01:50:25,980
I guess I'm looking, is there actual contributions being made by hop and may Adams foundation?

1089
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,540
And if you can't answer, you don't have to.

1090
01:50:28,540 --> 01:50:36,320
I can affirm yes and even to get to this point in the process, significant funds have been spent architectural, all those things legal,

1091
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:41,220
accounts, accounting, all those things that this is not a done deal.

1092
01:50:41,420 --> 01:50:47,080
And it's up for, you know, you did several steps in this process to get it done and you know, to affirm it.

1093
01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:56,460
And so this is just one of the preliminary steps for the development of the garage and it's a statute that's created, you know,

1094
01:50:56,460 --> 01:51:04,260
transportation facilities and this is where we start development and the foundation will be

1095
01:51:04,900 --> 01:51:10,380
contributing more than half of the cost that go into that with the city, ultimately leaning up

1096
01:51:10,380 --> 01:51:16,320
owning and this is still preliminary, but the city owning dedicated parking stalls under this proposal.

1097
01:51:16,700 --> 01:51:19,760
Thank you so much. Supervisor Geome.

1098
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:34,230
Robert or Glenn Chris, whoever can answer, the agreement will delineate, I mean, the

1099
01:51:34,230 --> 01:51:38,470
seat of all have a tangible asset when this is done, right? I mean, a number of spots will

1100
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:44,690
purchase a number of spots which we would own, right, in some form or another, whether it's

1101
01:51:44,690 --> 01:51:49,830
a kind of medium sort of arrangement or something similar that there will be actual tangible

1102
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:52,070
asset ownership. Is that a fair statement?

1103
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:57,790
Supervisor, Jamie, for the record, Robert Nellis. Yes, that's correct. What you're allowing

1104
01:51:57,790 --> 01:52:03,170
us to do today is essentially negotiate those terms. That's correct. We're looking to secure

1105
01:52:03,170 --> 01:52:09,190
some sort of ownership that can't be taken away from the city without having the burden of maintenance

1106
01:52:09,190 --> 01:52:14,070
for the garage and all that. But yes, it could be a condominium structure, some sort of

1107
01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:18,950
deed restrictions. All of that's been, you know, thrown out there, but it hasn't been finalized. That's

1108
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:26,590
you'll see in the final I grant it. Okay. And we're only going to be paying for what we

1109
01:52:26,590 --> 01:52:34,790
own, whatever that ownership looks like. Right? I mean, because I know you're in this negotiation,

1110
01:52:35,050 --> 01:52:39,990
I realize everything I'm asking is going to be in the final document. I just want to make sure that

1111
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:44,900
I hear from you that it is actually in that final document. So we talked early on about about

1112
01:52:45,480 --> 01:52:51,560
200 spaces maybe we don't need 200 maybe we need 50. I mean I know it that's way more than that, but

1113
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:56,040
somewhere in that range, you know we made it with 200 quarter, but whatever it is, we'll buy

1114
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:01,540
number, we'll pay for the number we need, as opposed to having to pay.

1115
01:53:02,700 --> 01:53:08,000
I mean the commitment isn't a flat 8 million, that 8 million is an estimate based on what we feel we need.

1116
01:53:08,420 --> 01:53:14,520
That's correct, Supervisor Jan. We were looking at, as many as up to perhaps 180 spaces just

1117
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,880
to throw around number out there could be a lot less than that.

1118
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:19,700
We're doing the analysis now to deter

1119
01:53:19,700 --> 01:53:22,680
and number of employees that would need to park there,

1120
01:53:23,020 --> 01:53:24,160
people attending board meetings.

1121
01:53:24,660 --> 01:53:26,760
So we're really trying to be careful about our negotiations

1122
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,980
and make sure that number is accurate.

1123
01:53:29,180 --> 01:53:32,860
Yes, we will not pay for more spaces than what the city actually needs.

1124
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:35,920
And that agreement will detail the responsibility

1125
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,380
of maintenance of the building as a whole.

1126
01:53:39,580 --> 01:53:41,460
I assume we'll have to be some kind of a maintenance agreement.

1127
01:53:41,700 --> 01:53:44,120
If we own, let's say we own 180 spots,

1128
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,280
whatever that number is, we're going to be responsible

1129
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:47,920
for maintenance of our 180 spots.

1130
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,700
But the other however many spots are in that building,

1131
01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:53,420
someone has to maintain so that there's

1132
01:53:53,420 --> 01:53:54,920
an equality of maintenance, right?

1133
01:53:55,020 --> 01:53:57,720
I mean, the agreement will, so that, you know,

1134
01:53:58,180 --> 01:53:59,400
let's say the whole building is 400,

1135
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,720
just for the sake of argument, we own 200.

1136
01:54:02,340 --> 01:54:04,260
The 200 isn't going to be maintained better

1137
01:54:04,260 --> 01:54:05,400
than the other 200, right?

1138
01:54:05,420 --> 01:54:07,880
There would have to be that agreement would have to be

1139
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,780
structured in such a way that there's a quality of maintenance,

1140
01:54:10,780 --> 01:54:15,260
so that one side isn't responsible for doing maintenance

1141
01:54:15,260 --> 01:54:17,340
in the other side just let's, there is a go, correct?

1142
01:54:17,500 --> 01:54:20,100
I mean, it would be a shared responsibility,

1143
01:54:20,420 --> 01:54:21,320
but defined, correct?

1144
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:23,220
Correct, for the record of our analysis,

1145
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:24,900
that's correct, Supervisor Jim,

1146
01:54:25,060 --> 01:54:27,480
we'd be looking at a third party operator

1147
01:54:27,480 --> 01:54:30,280
for the garage that would operate the whole thing.

1148
01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:31,880
They would be responsible for the maintenance,

1149
01:54:32,060 --> 01:54:34,040
they collect any fees, if necessary,

1150
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:36,740
not on, you know, sitting in place, of course,

1151
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,060
but those fees would then go into an account

1152
01:54:39,060 --> 01:54:44,620
maintain the garage, which would be all the spaces, not just, you know, the paid spaces if you

1153
01:54:44,620 --> 01:54:51,380
well or other spaces used by the businesses at the plaza, would be actually the entire garage.

1154
01:54:51,620 --> 01:54:57,420
And will that maintenance agreement come to us when this P3 agreement comes or is that something

1155
01:54:57,420 --> 01:54:59,440
we're going to have to wait to hear about?

1156
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:08,220
My understanding, again, for the record, Ravinalis, that would be brought at the same time that would be a piece of the overall agreement.

1157
01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:10,700
The maintenance portion would be included in that.

1158
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:12,340
I'm always concerned with more attorney show.

1159
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,820
Adam Tully, deputy district attorney.

1160
01:55:15,980 --> 01:55:16,580
No offense.

1161
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:27,000
I think just one thing to keep in mind is there's, there's broader responsibilities for maintenance.

1162
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:33,540
And that, for sure, will be coming to you at the same time as the development agreement for the parking garage.

1163
01:55:34,060 --> 01:55:41,040
Some of the more nitty-gritty day-to-day stuff, that might be through some other kind of contract that comes later.

1164
01:55:43,260 --> 01:55:45,900
So, responsibility will be defined.

1165
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:49,860
Operational, operationalization of that may come later.

1166
01:55:50,460 --> 01:55:51,280
Is that a fair statement?

1167
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:52,040
I think that's fair.

1168
01:55:52,340 --> 01:55:52,440
Yes.

1169
01:55:52,700 --> 01:55:54,100
I think that makes sense.

1170
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:59,420
It's hard to know exactly what maintenance has to happen until, certainly broad maintenance,

1171
01:55:59,700 --> 01:56:04,000
you have to, you know, painting the floor, whatever the floor is made of, maintenance of all

1172
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:08,060
of that, but emptying garbage cans and how many garbage, I mean, that part I get.

1173
01:56:08,460 --> 01:56:14,240
Big stuff can be settled up front, and the smaller stuff might even be like contracts that

1174
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,520
are like five-year times, right now, right?

1175
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:17,480
Okay.

1176
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,100
That's kind of to be seen.

1177
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:25,520
And somewhere in there, I assume we're going to have to work out the free component because I think

1178
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:30,780
there's an understanding that there is going to be a paid-apart scenario, but that if you're

1179
01:56:30,780 --> 01:56:37,300
coming for city business, there will be free parking because we own the city, the citizens own the spots.

1180
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:44,780
I want to make sure that there's a way to ensure that hours are related to activities that occur

1181
01:56:44,780 --> 01:56:50,880
with the city. So if we have employees who work on a Saturday, for instance, they shouldn't

1182
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:55,560
have to pay to come in on a Saturday. If we have an evening meeting or the school board has

1183
01:56:55,560 --> 01:57:00,840
a meeting, or any public body is having the meeting in the meeting room in the city hall,

1184
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:05,980
they shouldn't have to pay. So I want to make sure that's in there. I don't, it has to be

1185
01:57:05,980 --> 01:57:11,120
at no cost, however we work that out for those public meetings or the use of city hall.

1186
01:57:12,460 --> 01:57:18,060
Again, for the record, Robin Ellis, it's good to get all of these comments from the board

1187
01:57:18,060 --> 01:57:22,960
on the record because this helps us craft the negotiations, but yes, we've been discussing

1188
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:28,300
those various things, some sort of voucher system without look like working with an operator

1189
01:57:28,300 --> 01:57:31,180
who is used to dealing with that kind of thing.

1190
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:36,020
So yes, if someone came to City Hall, there's that the treasurer's office, they get a voucher,

1191
01:57:36,220 --> 01:57:40,940
they park for free, they leave, they don't pay anything, you know, somebody, we have employees

1192
01:57:40,940 --> 01:57:45,860
that would work on the weekend. Of course, you know, they would be able to park here. We've

1193
01:57:45,860 --> 01:57:51,760
talked about, you know, some of the ways, you know, off site would need to have spaces to come.

1194
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:56,140
So I work at public works, off sites. I come and I park for free if I come to the city hall.

1195
01:57:56,300 --> 01:58:01,240
But then I don't work here full time. So I, on the weekend, I wouldn't be parking there.

1196
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:05,240
Right. For wouldn't have a need to know. I mean, that makes sense. And I know that there's other

1197
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:11,600
municipalities that I've interacted with for that works for you. You have to do business in the

1198
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:16,300
government building or the state building and you, you know, you go in, you have your meeting,

1199
01:58:16,460 --> 01:58:22,380
they give you a little QR code and you scan yourself out and it's no cost. So, okay, I think that

1200
01:58:22,380 --> 01:58:33,500
covers the questions that I had. Thank you. Supervisor White, the floor. Thank you.

1201
01:58:33,500 --> 01:58:37,140
I apologize for the interruption.

1202
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:43,360
NRS 21A420 requires me to make a disclosure.

1203
01:58:43,820 --> 01:58:50,060
I have a conflict of interest and abstain if the conflict is disqualifying.

1204
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:55,780
I did not realize that Allison McKinsey law firm

1205
01:58:55,780 --> 01:58:59,120
is representing the Hop and May Adams Foundation.

1206
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:06,960
I am a client of the Allison McKenzie law firm, but that attorney client relationship has no

1207
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:13,460
nexus to this matter, and I do not believe that I have a disqualifying interest. I make this

1208
01:59:13,460 --> 01:59:17,780
disclosure for transparency, but I will be voting on this item.

1209
01:59:25,390 --> 01:59:31,410
Is that a ditto? Yeah, I mean, Chris is not my attorney, but an attorney in their firm

1210
01:59:32,250 --> 01:59:34,650
has done a state planning for me.

1211
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:42,410
Empress, 21A, 420, requires me who wrote this, requires me to disclose to make a disclosure

1212
01:59:42,410 --> 01:59:47,090
if I have a conflict of interest and of stain, if the conflict is disqualifying.

1213
01:59:47,390 --> 01:59:54,930
I did not realize that Allison McKinsey law firm was representing the Hop in May Adams Foundation.

1214
01:59:54,930 --> 01:59:58,650
And I also am a client of the firm, but...

1215
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:10,480
What is that? Thank you. There is no nexus to this matter. And my relationship isn't with Chris McKinsey.

1216
02:00:12,700 --> 02:00:19,780
I do not believe that they have a disqualifying interest. I make this disclosure for full transparency that I will be voting on this matter.

1217
02:00:19,780 --> 02:00:21,540
Anybody else?

1218
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:22,780
Different lawyer.

1219
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:25,000
Thank you.

1220
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,660
That's all right.

1221
02:00:26,820 --> 02:00:27,380
Okay.

1222
02:00:27,820 --> 02:00:28,100
All right.

1223
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:29,800
Is there any other questions?

1224
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:31,300
All right.

1225
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,720
Then I will open this up for.

1226
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,840
Is there any public comment on this item?

1227
02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:38,680
Mr. French.

1228
02:00:44,450 --> 02:00:45,030
Thank you, Mary.

1229
02:00:45,730 --> 02:00:45,750
Mayor.

1230
02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:46,550
Denny French.

1231
02:00:46,990 --> 02:00:47,570
Carson City.

1232
02:00:47,990 --> 02:00:51,310
I was vice that there had been a glitch in the

1233
02:00:51,310 --> 02:00:59,250
to reach the agenda on the computer and Stephanie Advice Stephanie Hicks, excuse me. Advice

1234
02:00:59,250 --> 02:01:06,090
that that glitch has been corrected. I would just like to say that considering the court house

1235
02:01:06,090 --> 02:01:12,010
considering the parking, considering city hall, considering the streets that we will be losing

1236
02:01:12,010 --> 02:01:17,370
and considering all this, that you all take in this as if you put in the horse before the cart.

1237
02:01:17,370 --> 02:01:24,450
We are not advised enough to be able to respond to what we're even hearing.

1238
02:01:26,290 --> 02:01:31,910
This is to me, it's right word I think and I'm trying to find it, a travesty.

1239
02:01:32,670 --> 02:01:37,690
I would bring up a will Roger statement is anytime you get, read something you can't understand,

1240
02:01:38,050 --> 02:01:43,290
you probably are reading or hearing something that was set forward by an attorney.

1241
02:01:43,290 --> 02:01:48,150
But, in this case, it's not just set by the attorneys being set by you all.

1242
02:01:48,450 --> 02:01:56,070
You're vagueness the lack of direct and concrete numbers and statistics.

1243
02:01:56,530 --> 02:02:01,150
Yeah, statistics is very hard.

1244
02:02:01,450 --> 02:02:06,410
Very hard for me to sit and watch people I have watched and I have been observant

1245
02:02:06,410 --> 02:02:12,990
and I am considerate of their involvement to why are we as people,

1246
02:02:13,450 --> 02:02:18,590
able to really have a discussion. This to me is not a discussion. I'm telling you my frustrations.

1247
02:02:19,090 --> 02:02:24,330
There's no interaction between you and I right now. You may or may not respond in private later.

1248
02:02:25,170 --> 02:02:30,310
But this is not a discussion. We did more when we were looking at the master plan as far as public

1249
02:02:30,310 --> 02:02:35,090
input and actual discussion. And most of you had been to some of those meetings.

1250
02:02:35,090 --> 02:02:46,430
It's not what's going on here, so I'm very disappointed, and I don't want that to discourage me from being engaged, and I hope it doesn't discourage others from being engaged.

1251
02:02:47,190 --> 02:02:54,110
Ask to have a vote put on this. Let your voice be heard whether you write it, you call it, where you come in. Thank you.

1252
02:02:57,180 --> 02:03:17,720
My name is J.P. Mackie. I'm a Carson City resident and I want item 15B paused until the public receives a detailed needs of assessment and how the financial aspects affects the taxpayers.

1253
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:20,440
Thank you,

1254
02:03:22,450 --> 02:03:23,190
Mr. Greedy.

1255
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:37,240
Good morning. I am Michael Greedy, a voter in Carson City since 1986.

1256
02:03:38,300 --> 02:03:44,760
I disagree with the staff report that, quote, parking is constrained in downtown Carson City and quote,

1257
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:51,840
I have never been unable to park downtown even during the Nevada day parade.

1258
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:56,660
The proposed parking garage is not connected to downtown.

1259
02:03:57,660 --> 02:04:05,960
One must know to travel east on telegraph from Carson Street to access the proposed parking garage.

1260
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:12,120
Visitors seeking parking will not know to go east on telegraph.

1261
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:18,920
Compare this with the paid public parking at South Slay Tahoe,

1262
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:28,660
where as, as soon as you exit the parking structure you are immersed into the adjacent commercial activity.

1263
02:04:30,060 --> 02:04:33,580
The staff report sites say mythical town square proposal.

1264
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:42,540
The board should review the town square proposal in total if the parking garage is an element of a larger town square proposal.

1265
02:04:43,820 --> 02:04:54,000
The Adam CC development LLC request claims a parking garage quote is an attractive civic gateway quote and quote.

1266
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:59,960
I do not understand how a three-story concrete garage attached from downtown is a.

1267
02:05:01,660 --> 02:05:10,420
The city is a subtracting itself, subjecting itself to potential financial risk. If the only paid parking in

1268
02:05:10,420 --> 02:05:29,380
carsten's city does not generate revenue for its operating costs. I just like reputation, but I will repeat myself. The more that I

1269
02:05:29,380 --> 02:05:33,380
I urge each board member to read the previously submitted public comments.

1270
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:45,720
I must comment that documents presented in a public meeting not available to the public violates the NRS open meeting law.

1271
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:53,740
There must be a two week publication period of an actual agreement is brought to the board for an implementation.

1272
02:05:53,740 --> 02:06:02,920
A customary one week, a agenda publication period is too short, a two week period will help

1273
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,800
support members review and a public's review.

1274
02:06:07,740 --> 02:06:09,440
Mayor, I don't really know.

1275
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:13,300
Mary Bagwell's comments support this observation.

1276
02:06:15,570 --> 02:06:18,810
I generally am not favorable at single issue judgments.

1277
02:06:18,810 --> 02:06:26,930
This parking garage is a agreement as an element of the new city hall, who's financing was discussed in item 14A.

1278
02:06:27,330 --> 02:06:36,130
But the new city hall decisions affects neighborhoods, street funding, potential other city services funding, and as a third year project.

1279
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:40,190
The board's decisions will affect the board's credibility.

1280
02:06:40,190 --> 02:06:43,250
Board members, those will affect a board member.

1281
02:06:43,250 --> 02:06:45,030
My future time for inspired.

1282
02:06:45,310 --> 02:06:47,410
Thank you so much.

1283
02:06:47,630 --> 02:06:48,070
Ms. Senata.

1284
02:06:50,570 --> 02:06:51,950
Thank you, Mary Senata.

1285
02:06:52,270 --> 02:06:53,910
Citizen of Carson City.

1286
02:06:55,070 --> 02:07:04,470
Your motion requires you to find that this parking garage is a public benefit.

1287
02:07:05,390 --> 02:07:10,690
It doesn't appear to me that it's being built for the benefit of the public.

1288
02:07:10,690 --> 02:07:16,450
It appears to me that it's been built for the benefit of the hop and man and foundation.

1289
02:07:17,610 --> 02:07:24,630
Mr. Neighbors in an interview with Carson now recently stated as much in fact.

1290
02:07:25,230 --> 02:07:31,050
He stated that he needs that parking garage to develop his property.

1291
02:07:32,410 --> 02:07:38,630
That seems to me to be a private benefit, not a public benefit.

1292
02:07:38,630 --> 02:07:50,520
But city resources should be used to fund city the needs of the citizens of Carson City.

1293
02:07:51,340 --> 02:07:55,940
They should not be used as economic development funds.

1294
02:07:56,420 --> 02:07:59,520
That's why we have an economic development authority.

1295
02:08:01,340 --> 02:08:07,660
The foundation is supposed to be there for the betterment of Carson City.

1296
02:08:07,660 --> 02:08:18,820
Why doesn't it use its own resources to build this parking garage that they need to supposedly attract another hotel?

1297
02:08:19,340 --> 02:08:26,340
I don't think the occupancy rates in the current hotels are full.

1298
02:08:29,220 --> 02:08:35,760
to potentially, you know, we throw this idea out there that may be some time down the line,

1299
02:08:35,860 --> 02:08:42,760
there'll be a city plaza, but in Mr. Neighbors' own words again, in the Carson now article,

1300
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:52,040
he states that, well, we don't know whether there will ever be a city plaza or not. So, we are proposing

1301
02:08:52,040 --> 02:09:01,700
spending $8 million of city resources to fund a parking garage for the benefit of the development

1302
02:09:01,700 --> 02:09:10,120
that the foundation wants to do. I don't see that as a public benefit, and I urge this board

1303
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:15,780
to vote against this resolution. Thank you. Ms. Dressberg.

1304
02:09:15,780 --> 02:09:23,340
Pepsi, strawsberg. There is a consistency in the public comment, so I'm going to

1305
02:09:23,340 --> 02:09:30,560
me repeat myself. The proposed structure is supposed to serve a public purpose. And my

1306
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:36,620
question was that public purposes, even on Nevada day, the parking in the city is adequate

1307
02:09:36,620 --> 02:09:44,260
even with the roads closed. We have, we're going to have three new four-story parking lots

1308
02:09:44,260 --> 02:09:48,880
within 0.5 miles owned by the state that is free to residents.

1309
02:09:49,500 --> 02:09:57,000
There is no four-story 161-57-square-foot parking structure near the Brewery Arts Center.

1310
02:09:57,380 --> 02:09:59,980
Every summer, 1,000 of people...

1311
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:08,640
Enjoy the consorts. Everyone finds a parking spot or walks to the concert. We pride ourselves to promote

1312
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:17,660
Carson City as a walkable city. The proposal calls for $8 million for $180 a parking stall. You

1313
02:10:17,660 --> 02:10:26,240
used to be $200, but now $180, which is at a fully loaded cost of $44,000. Even the state does not

1314
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:28,700
guarantee parking spots for their staff.

1315
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:33,500
The parking structure will be paid by the citizens money,

1316
02:10:34,020 --> 02:10:38,560
but we'll have to pay for parking in weekends and at nights

1317
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:40,900
when the staff goes home.

1318
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:46,760
Why not let Adams Carson City Development Corp LLC build a structure

1319
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,340
and everyone pays for parking.

1320
02:10:49,420 --> 02:10:51,020
It'll be fair for everyone.

1321
02:10:51,020 --> 02:11:01,820
The parking structure will be completed in May of 2028 at least one year before occupancy of the proposed new city hall.

1322
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:15,880
So board of supervisors, let me ask you again, is this a really a need or is it to help the foundation attract potential new investors and developers for future development?

1323
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:38,460
I believe that there are three alternatives, approve the project without knowing any details and how it's going to benefit the residents who are paying for this, get it done correctly as a fiduciary based on current real estate information as expected by the public or let Carson vote.

1324
02:11:39,180 --> 02:11:43,720
That's the ultimate. We need to have a say how our public funds are spent.

1325
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:45,760
Thank you.

1326
02:11:46,140 --> 02:11:46,600
Miss Stevens.

1327
02:11:49,860 --> 02:11:50,480
Hi again.

1328
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:53,460
Karen Stevens for the record.

1329
02:11:55,060 --> 02:12:01,600
If the taxpayers are responsible for the massive $8 million price tag, why aren't they

1330
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:08,940
compensated for their contribution by receiving free parking?

1331
02:12:09,780 --> 02:12:14,160
It's our money paying for why are the taxpayers going to have to pay for parking?

1332
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:15,420
That doesn't make sense.

1333
02:12:15,420 --> 02:12:23,680
We're getting parking away to the city employees, why should they pay for their own parking?

1334
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:27,580
It's not fair in any means.

1335
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:32,960
And how much is the parking fees going to be?

1336
02:12:33,140 --> 02:12:34,040
Has that been disclosed?

1337
02:12:34,220 --> 02:12:35,280
I haven't seen it anywhere.

1338
02:12:36,140 --> 02:12:41,160
Another one of those secret things that we're not allowed to know, apparently.

1339
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:51,420
And why is the parking structure being rushed through their approval process to be finished a year prior to the proposed city hall?

1340
02:12:51,980 --> 02:13:00,320
That doesn't make sense. Who benefits from that? Why has there been so much secrecy regarding these projects?

1341
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:05,720
The Board of Supervisors are entrusted to be financially responsible,

1342
02:13:06,540 --> 02:13:11,140
avoid unnecessary risks, act in the best interest of the taxpayers,

1343
02:13:12,580 --> 02:13:17,780
and ensure that taxpayers are protected before long-term commitments are made.

1344
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:23,660
There has been no demonstration that its firm already analysis has taken place

1345
02:13:23,660 --> 02:13:28,620
or any analysis for that matter, except for maybe a checklist.

1346
02:13:29,640 --> 02:13:47,760
As customary, the planning commission reviews projects before it comes to the board, why in this particular situation has the planning commission review been moved to behind the installment purchase agreement with HMAF.

1347
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:54,340
There has been no discussion or explanation provided for the reasoning of this odd change in procedure.

1348
02:13:56,020 --> 02:14:03,100
Item 15A, B. Excuse me, 15B should be paused until the public receives true transparency

1349
02:14:03,780 --> 02:14:10,940
of the long-term financial impact on Chris Carson City payers. And the planning permission is given

1350
02:14:10,940 --> 02:14:17,040
the opportunity to fully review the project before it comes before the VOS again.

1351
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:37,480
If the Board of Supervisors ignores a request, provide clear and transparent answers to the public questions and to provide a third-party needs assessment, let the record show that accountability was formally requested and denied.

1352
02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:45,420
And in addition, I agree with everything stated from the prior speakers.

1353
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:50,120
Do you have any other public comment?

1354
02:14:50,620 --> 02:14:51,040
Ms. Olon?

1355
02:14:57,390 --> 02:14:58,970
I'm Lucian Maloney, Carson City resident.

1356
02:14:59,850 --> 02:14:59,990
As I-

1357
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,940
Committed on a previous item. The staff report indicates that downtown parking is constrained. However, there has not been a downtown parking study done since 2019.

1358
02:15:10,540 --> 02:15:20,820
That parking study was presented to the Regional Transportation Commission at their July 8, 2020 meeting. And in that report, it states that there is adequate parking downtown.

1359
02:15:20,820 --> 02:15:31,280
There has not been substantial land use changes since that study was done except for the major state buildings which have built parking to accommodate their demand.

1360
02:15:32,060 --> 02:15:36,160
So there has not been a proven demand of this parking structure.

1361
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:38,680
I'm saying otherwise is unethical.

1362
02:15:39,660 --> 02:15:49,220
I'll also state that while legal, this decision has found a mechanism to do public construction using private contracting authority,

1363
02:15:49,220 --> 02:15:57,200
which office gates the city's responsibility to pay prevailing wage. Now you all are rationalizing it saying that

1364
02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:04,680
you're getting $600 a square foot versus $900 plus per square foot that the state is paying for the state buildings.

1365
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:12,160
My understanding is this project is being built privately and so thus we would not pay that prevailing wage.

1366
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:19,120
We would then lease the building. That's what I was told by one of the supervisors. You don't need to interrupt me. Sorry, I do get three minutes.

1367
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:24,140
And so, you know, I'd like to get an answer to that, maybe we are paying prevailing

1368
02:16:24,140 --> 02:16:28,600
wage, but I personally think our blue color workers deserve that prevailing wage.

1369
02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:33,000
Our local construction people deserve it, and there's a reason that those laws are in place.

1370
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:38,720
I think that they would deserve it on the Town Square Project if there's public money going

1371
02:16:38,720 --> 02:16:41,280
into it, we should be paying prevailing wage.

1372
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:45,440
And if we can't afford it, then maybe that's unethical and we shouldn't be doing it.

1373
02:16:45,620 --> 02:16:46,060
Thank you.

1374
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:48,100
Thank you.

1375
02:16:55,140 --> 02:17:01,140
For the record, Terry Preston, a couple of things is I used to do a lot of business in Asia.

1376
02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:06,860
And one of my partners, when he hadn't spent $78,000 on a parking space in Hong Kong.

1377
02:17:07,380 --> 02:17:11,560
And I said, why in that? How are you spending $78,000 on a parking space?

1378
02:17:12,060 --> 02:17:17,980
He says, I have a $250,000 Mercedes and people in China want to drive even though they shouldn't.

1379
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:20,640
So this was a safety concern for him.

1380
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:26,860
I never occurred to me in my lifetime that anybody would say in Carson City we're going to pay

1381
02:17:26,860 --> 02:17:31,220
$40,000 a for a parking space.

1382
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:38,460
While I was the manager of Leasing Services and we would lease buildings or even when we

1383
02:17:38,460 --> 02:17:42,560
purchased buildings, parking is not a guarantee.

1384
02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:52,560
They would negotiate parking spaces for specific city vehicles or state vehicles, but not for the individuals to park.

1385
02:17:53,480 --> 02:18:04,720
We have street parking on spear, telegraph, plaza, ball, all that parking is on street parking that the city already owns.

1386
02:18:05,900 --> 02:18:11,340
Now I'm seeing that you're considering on banding those streets for a plaza that may never happen.

1387
02:18:12,160 --> 02:18:19,800
We're building a parking garage to subsidize and help assist economic development for a hotel

1388
02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:23,800
which was promised in 2012 and still has not come through fruition.

1389
02:18:24,740 --> 02:18:29,000
The hotels that we have right now that we've been approving are extended states.

1390
02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:32,580
They're extended states for the construction that's being happening here.

1391
02:18:32,660 --> 02:18:33,880
They're not heads and beds.

1392
02:18:34,360 --> 02:18:35,180
They're not tourism.

1393
02:18:36,180 --> 02:18:41,020
The parking, the plaza itself, has gotten smaller and smaller.

1394
02:18:41,900 --> 02:18:46,460
Part of the reason that they wanted to abandon the streets is for the plaza.

1395
02:18:47,260 --> 02:18:50,960
The plaza is in phase what three or four at this point.

1396
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:52,840
It's not even realistic.

1397
02:18:53,880 --> 02:19:00,040
Things have been promised before, but to use our funds to go ahead and pay for a parking

1398
02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:01,320
garage isn't saying to me.

1399
02:19:01,320 --> 02:19:08,820
I should let you know is that I did manage the parking garage at Basin Street down on Virginia and Liberty.

1400
02:19:10,480 --> 02:19:16,220
That parking garage actually was the court, the federal court, housed across the way,

1401
02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:22,800
leased spaces on an annual basis for people that came in and that were jurists and so forth.

1402
02:19:22,800 --> 02:19:31,940
The living stones church on Sundays, when it had at least space out of the parking garage.

1403
02:19:32,780 --> 02:19:36,620
So they were able to do that for their parishioners.

1404
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:40,260
At no time did any of them buy space.

1405
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:42,960
So I think that is kind of crazy.

1406
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:47,980
Is that if somebody wants to put together a parking garage and feel that it's an economic

1407
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:54,840
Plus, to a community, then they should outlay their own funds and not rely on city funds.

1408
02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:57,240
Thank you.

1409
02:19:57,560 --> 02:19:59,980
Do I have any other public comment?

1410
02:20:09,740 --> 02:20:10,740
Hello again.

1411
02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:33,960
I want to stress, again, oh my name is Dan Lek. I want to stress again that you're deceiving the public. Everything here has been talking about a 30 million dollar city complex. It's not 30 million dollars. It's 38 million dollars.

1412
02:20:33,960 --> 02:20:39,680
And I believe that the finance should be for the entire project so you're going to be

1413
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:45,820
generally honest with the people, not 30 million dollars, 38 million dollars.

1414
02:20:46,860 --> 02:20:53,460
I also object to the city's assertion that construction of the new city of all facility

1415
02:20:53,460 --> 02:20:59,660
will not result in a tax increase for the Carson City residents.

1416
02:20:59,660 --> 02:21:04,420
staff has reported that the project will have no fiscal impact.

1417
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:09,240
This conclusion is fundamentally irresponsible.

1418
02:21:10,140 --> 02:21:15,480
First, in order to finance a purchase, the city is driving funds that were previously

1419
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:20,560
allotted to funds for building updates, renovations, and other capital needs.

1420
02:21:21,980 --> 02:21:23,800
They'll still need to be financed

1421
02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:30,100
as commercial value, excuse me.

1422
02:21:30,100 --> 02:21:38,920
Secondly, two major state office projects totaling some 230,000 square feet are currently

1423
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:48,620
under construction here in Carson City, combined with the 45,000 square feet of city offices

1424
02:21:48,620 --> 02:21:51,940
as 265,000 square feet.

1425
02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:58,920
Never since I'd been here in Carson City and it's grown in a two-year period of the ever-built

1426
02:21:58,920 --> 02:22:04,340
office complexes of that magnitude, and they won't be on the tax roll.

1427
02:22:06,460 --> 02:22:12,480
This level of new construction has already contributed to a decline in off of property values.

1428
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:19,160
The recent sales of two-large office buildings reflect prices of $43 a square foot

1429
02:22:19,160 --> 02:22:29,340
capital plaza, and $89 a square foot for King's street buildings, which is significantly less

1430
02:22:29,340 --> 02:22:35,360
than your price of $844, that's $38,000, not $30.

1431
02:22:38,780 --> 02:22:42,720
As commercial values decline, the assessed valuation

1432
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:46,060
of the city's tax rules also expected to stabilize.

1433
02:22:46,780 --> 02:22:49,260
Not have a gradual increase as we've had in the past.

1434
02:22:49,940 --> 02:22:53,640
It at best will stabilize and most likely decline.

1435
02:22:55,120 --> 02:22:59,640
To offset this loss, the burden will eventually be cast

1436
02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:08,900
on residential homeowners, the most stable investment in Carson City, as well as property

1437
02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:15,780
people at rent here, which is totally contrary to what the staff has stated.

1438
02:23:17,560 --> 02:23:18,580
Thank you very much.

1439
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:19,820
Thank you.

1440
02:23:19,820 --> 02:23:20,440
Thank you.

1441
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:24,080
I'll make it quick.

1442
02:23:24,940 --> 02:23:26,280
May the sun just for the record.

1443
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:30,140
I just wanted to re-emphasize public-private partnership.

1444
02:23:30,140 --> 02:23:37,400
We're looking at a private public partnership with this relationship need or, you know, non-documented need.

1445
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:41,720
I think we can negotiate a better deal for Carson City as all I'm going to say.

1446
02:23:42,100 --> 02:23:47,260
I understand that the private entity wants to come in and they might have plans in the future for further development.

1447
02:23:47,640 --> 02:23:59,080
That's great, but it should be on the private entity to make that investment in Carson City with the best negotiated price that we can get for Carson City for our constituent base.

1448
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:01,020
I think that is something that we need to consider

1449
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:03,160
when we're looking at public private partnerships again.

1450
02:24:03,620 --> 02:24:05,460
Risk should fall on that private entity

1451
02:24:05,460 --> 02:24:07,660
and not on our tax base.

1452
02:24:07,920 --> 02:24:09,320
Thank you.

1453
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:10,560
Do you have any other?

1454
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:14,220
OK, then I'm going to bring it back up here.

1455
02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:17,600
Just do we need anybody want to make

1456
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:20,280
comments or start with a motion?

1457
02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:21,520
Up there?

1458
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:25,180
Supervisor Shuddy?

1459
02:24:25,480 --> 02:24:27,800
I just have a couple of questions.

1460
02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:37,340
So, there was a comment about the Planning Commission review and odd change of procedure.

1461
02:24:38,220 --> 02:24:43,480
So, my question is, is this a change of procedure or is procedure being followed?

1462
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:53,880
We have intentionally stuck. Thank you, sir. We have intentionally stuck with preset timelines, preset processes.

1463
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:57,960
the parking garage and the City Hall complex, town Plaza,

1464
02:24:58,580 --> 02:24:59,960
call it at what other people have a hotel.

1465
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:06,600
Today, could be anything but a hotel today in conversation, had gone to MPR prior as a larger project.

1466
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:11,340
The site did actually after you're approval to proceed with due diligence.

1467
02:25:12,060 --> 02:25:17,000
The property owner did bring back both the city hall and the parking garage specifically to an additional MPR

1468
02:25:17,560 --> 02:25:19,800
when we had additional detail based on your direction.

1469
02:25:20,720 --> 02:25:24,180
And it is currently scheduled that I said earlier to go to the pending year.

1470
02:25:24,500 --> 02:25:29,040
Well, now that you've approved that that management commission, the parking garage will go forward to the planning commission

1471
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:31,920
on its regular scheduled meeting of September 30th.

1472
02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:39,780
I think there was, that we've approved.

1473
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:43,240
You approved sending your debt management commission,

1474
02:25:43,380 --> 02:25:45,860
the ability to finance the program.

1475
02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:47,840
So that, I misspoke my apologies.

1476
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:49,080
So that was City Hall.

1477
02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:51,460
We're still pending that direction with this motion.

1478
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:52,100
My apologies.

1479
02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:53,260
Let me clarify.

1480
02:25:54,060 --> 02:25:56,200
As you've all said, a lot of moving pieces in this project.

1481
02:25:56,900 --> 02:25:59,080
So your debt management is going forward

1482
02:25:59,080 --> 02:26:02,180
as the City Hall program at the debt management.

1483
02:26:02,180 --> 02:26:08,560
next Thursday, September 10th, pending approval of this item. This parking garage will go to the

1484
02:26:08,560 --> 02:26:14,020
regularly scheduled planning commission on September 30th. Thank you. There was a parking

1485
02:26:14,020 --> 02:26:23,680
comment or a comment about parking that there's ample parking with this stand true with the new

1486
02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:24,880
city hall.

1487
02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:31,280
A lot of the free parking that is this the ample parking that was discussed this parking

1488
02:26:31,280 --> 02:27:01,160
that is currently on the property owned by hop and may add them to the east and south of the current nugget property so as you proceed with any development in this case potential city hall and a potential parking garage a lot of that space gets taken up with new development as the project if the project were to continue with the private developer as was discussed with the hotel concept that would require additional parking this parking garage anticipates that full development again pending your approval moving forward with the city hall that's the first

1489
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:10,500
piece when you look at City Hall being theoretically, depending on your approval, starting construction in March of 2027 has been discussed.

1490
02:27:11,200 --> 02:27:18,280
The parking garage would be in there somewhere. The parking garage is quicker to construct and then the city hall, it's much simpler process.

1491
02:27:19,260 --> 02:27:30,180
So theoretically, as has been discussed, it would probably be built prior to City Hall. I believe that is the proper thing to do to make sure that that parking is in place, again, pending City Hall approval.

1492
02:27:30,180 --> 02:27:42,540
So ideally, we would have the hotel conference or any other future commercial development that the private developer may do on their own to follow that or align with it towards the end ideally.

1493
02:27:43,200 --> 02:27:48,600
If that doesn't happen, the town square property does sit empty.

1494
02:27:49,580 --> 02:27:55,480
But anticipating activity that town square project moves forward, it's a question of when that project develops.

1495
02:27:55,480 --> 02:28:09,420
When you talk about how things need to be constructed and safety, the town square, as I said in a couple of meetings, it's kind of the cherry on top of the whipped cream right when this project, if this project moves forward and it develops with us as partners.

1496
02:28:10,100 --> 02:28:12,900
That town square will be there if we do not move forward as partners.

1497
02:28:13,640 --> 02:28:17,560
Hop in May Adams, I'm anticipating we'll move forward with some other project over the next few years as well.

1498
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:23,140
So that's what it anticipates, long answer short answer yes with the future development that we're talking about today.

1499
02:28:23,140 --> 02:28:25,880
additional parking will be required to support those activities.

1500
02:28:26,560 --> 02:28:35,220
Okay, and so the parking supports accessibility to city hall, to board meetings, to

1501
02:28:35,220 --> 02:28:37,780
corporate quarter, is that accurate?

1502
02:28:38,620 --> 02:28:38,900
Yes.

1503
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:39,540
Yes.

1504
02:28:39,760 --> 02:28:42,800
Supervisor Diaz and his again Robert and the team discussed.

1505
02:28:43,300 --> 02:28:45,440
That is part of the negotiations that have started.

1506
02:28:46,540 --> 02:28:48,960
Again, if you approve this today, we'll continue.

1507
02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:55,780
as a part of those relations with the attorneys and everything to make sure that not only the day-to-day operations are covered,

1508
02:28:56,480 --> 02:29:03,280
but as supervisor Julia, I think, asked that standing board meetings, school board meetings, those kind of things.

1509
02:29:03,540 --> 02:29:06,440
Residents will not have to pay, do you participate in their government?

1510
02:29:07,820 --> 02:29:18,580
There was a gentleman discussed 30 million versus 38 million, so I'm just asking, and I know

1511
02:29:18,580 --> 02:29:24,840
this is but been spoken to before, but why the separation of the parking garage funding

1512
02:29:25,640 --> 02:29:28,280
from the City Hall funding?

1513
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:33,380
First and foremost, it is your team's intent to be as transparent as possible in this process,

1514
02:29:33,380 --> 02:29:38,880
we try to separate those first and foremost. Secondly, when you look at the financing aspect,

1515
02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:43,060
the least purchase agreement is for the city hall. We anticipate buying that.

1516
02:29:43,060 --> 02:29:48,220
That occurs long-term debt, and as you heard earlier today, a long process through

1517
02:29:48,880 --> 02:29:55,560
legal, local, and state processes. Currently planned, the garage are component, whether it

1518
02:29:55,560 --> 02:29:59,860
of being 7 million or 8 million or some number in between or lower it won't be higher.

1519
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:10,140
Whether it's lower in there somewhere, that is projected to be paid out of cash. So we do not have a funding mechanism for that. We are not projecting interest, cost or anything.

1520
02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:22,900
And a part of that cash is coming from the sale of the existing proposed, to come from the sale of the existing city hall as well as the brick building as we all, you know, call it with where community development and your building department is now.

1521
02:30:22,900 --> 02:30:34,040
So, two distinct processes, two different ownership, two different sets of agreements, and at the end of the day, we're just trying to be very transparent that they are two projects, but separate funding and separate users.

1522
02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:37,060
And then just one more, thank you.

1523
02:30:37,400 --> 02:30:42,860
Somebody brought up a cost of leasing versus purchasing.

1524
02:30:43,140 --> 02:30:49,240
Is there a benefit to purchasing, over leasing, a benefit to leasing over purchasing?

1525
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:57,520
I think it's been this board's direction for year supervisor that this board would prefer to own us at assets versus leasing them.

1526
02:30:57,820 --> 02:31:02,680
That is a large component of the aggregation of your city services into this proposed city hall.

1527
02:31:03,060 --> 02:31:09,000
As Robert has discussed in earlier board meetings, when he did his analysis, that is a big part of it.

1528
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:18,960
At the end of a 30 year program, you have a 30 year old building in city hall versus a remodeled 70 year 80 year old building and that is an asset for the city to have.

1529
02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:21,520
I would apply that logic to the parking as well.

1530
02:31:21,980 --> 02:31:24,180
We are pursuing ownership to protect the city,

1531
02:31:24,900 --> 02:31:29,900
long-term, if that operating group that is going to look to do that.

1532
02:31:29,940 --> 02:31:34,840
Changes, we will be protected to maintain access to the spots that we need.

1533
02:31:34,980 --> 02:31:36,300
Right, thank you.

1534
02:31:37,440 --> 02:31:38,280
Supervisor Jeremy.

1535
02:31:38,700 --> 02:31:40,860
I just want to boil a couple of things down,

1536
02:31:42,700 --> 02:31:45,380
because there's been questions about public purpose.

1537
02:31:45,380 --> 02:31:50,080
So if the city hall is built or any building of that magnitude,

1538
02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:56,420
whether it's built by us or McDonald's decides to build a three-story office building

1539
02:31:56,420 --> 02:32:01,440
to move their world headquarters here, you need to have parking for that building.

1540
02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:07,180
There's a required, our own code requires X number of parking spaces for that building.

1541
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:10,540
We don't have that space.

1542
02:32:11,260 --> 02:32:14,860
It has to be accounted for in length and not be accounted for on the street.

1543
02:32:14,860 --> 02:32:17,120
we would not allow anybody else to do that.

1544
02:32:17,300 --> 02:32:19,740
Our code does not allow that to happen.

1545
02:32:20,300 --> 02:32:26,440
So you know, sorry, so if we have a 45,000 square foot building,

1546
02:32:26,480 --> 02:32:29,700
it requires X number, I code of parking spaces.

1547
02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:33,260
The parking grudge satisfies that public purpose.

1548
02:32:33,380 --> 02:32:33,740
Correct.

1549
02:32:34,020 --> 02:32:34,920
I mean, that correct.

1550
02:32:36,620 --> 02:32:43,080
And the $8 million or whatever number, the figure we paid a buy our spaces,

1551
02:32:43,080 --> 02:32:45,760
is not the only cost in that building.

1552
02:32:45,940 --> 02:32:48,680
It's the portion of the cost that we pay for this space

1553
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:53,020
as we need by code for that building, correct?

1554
02:32:53,660 --> 02:32:57,120
There are the, it's going to cost more to build it.

1555
02:32:57,260 --> 02:32:59,080
8 million buys our space.

1556
02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:00,120
Doesn't buy the whole garage.

1557
02:33:01,780 --> 02:33:03,940
A maximum of 8 million will pay for this basis.

1558
02:33:04,300 --> 02:33:06,240
We will require for city hall, yes sir.

1559
02:33:06,960 --> 02:33:10,980
I think as Chris McKenzie, the foundations attorney mentioned earlier,

1560
02:33:10,980 --> 02:33:22,920
Hop and May Adams will be a better than 50 50 partnership on their side for that. Again, there is there is a benefit to them commercially in the long term, but there is a benefit to us and again, you're you are spot on.

1561
02:33:23,380 --> 02:33:28,920
When you look at the ownership of the parking garages that the parking spaces that are used now.

1562
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:33,840
As with third tree parking, that is a benefit that hop and May Adams currently gives the city.

1563
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:40,080
Nobody pays parking on those lots because Hoppin may have said that's a part of their civic requirement under their foundation

1564
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:44,700
They helped redo third street parking lot and and that is a great asset for the city to use

1565
02:33:45,420 --> 02:33:51,680
They currently allow everybody to park except trying to keep RVs and other folks out of out of those spaces east of the nugget

1566
02:33:51,680 --> 02:33:57,500
That that space those spaces are allowed to be used by the graces if you will if they hop in may add a foundation

1567
02:33:57,500 --> 02:34:05,240
So, as they proceed in development, regardless of the city hall or not, those spaces will be taken away

1568
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:11,680
and they will be replaced, one form or another. So, this we feel coming to you as your team,

1569
02:34:11,960 --> 02:34:15,760
this is the best use of that moving forward and it does support economic development because it provides

1570
02:34:15,760 --> 02:34:22,560
parking downtown as that area develops. Thank you. For the record, if I could supervisor, sorry to interrupt,

1571
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:37,360
Just want to clarify as has been stated numerous times in public and in private meetings all of the construction for city hall and the parking garage are prevailing wage.

1572
02:34:38,980 --> 02:34:43,700
There is no exemption under these partnerships for prevailing wage.

1573
02:34:45,110 --> 02:34:59,970
Thank you. Supervisor Wake. Thank you. Staying on the parking theme and apologize if I miss this question and answer due to my preview.

1574
02:35:23,560 --> 02:35:24,120
The

1575
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:32,800
way we are currently negotiating the agreement, yes, and that gets to the maintenance cost and the long-term

1576
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:39,260
use and how that does the way it is currently being negotiated is that again the city employees

1577
02:35:39,260 --> 02:35:45,780
that you city hall would have access to that facility basically 24-7 and as Robert said

1578
02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:51,440
in his presentation that with anybody else in the city as an employee that comes in and out it

1579
02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:56,860
would be key to their badges my guess as how technology would work and again if a resident came in

1580
02:35:56,860 --> 02:36:01,460
for board meeting or to see the treasure of the assessor they would get the QR code or whatever it

1581
02:36:01,460 --> 02:36:06,680
be for the day and they would be able to exit with no fee. That's the way it is currently being negotiated.

1582
02:36:07,500 --> 02:36:19,460
Thank you. On page 134 at item E it says that the city's regional transportation plan applies to

1583
02:36:19,460 --> 02:36:27,180
this project. Where in the city's transportation plan is this project considered or mentioned?

1584
02:36:27,960 --> 02:36:30,340
This project specifically is not.

1585
02:36:30,900 --> 02:36:38,160
We did confer with RTC and what their general statement was that with Stewart Street adjacent

1586
02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:43,320
and commercial other commercial developments in the area, Stewart Street being a main thoroughfare

1587
02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:47,660
if you were will that pending a traffic study, right?

1588
02:36:47,700 --> 02:36:51,100
That will be a standard practice, which should this part and garage move forward.

1589
02:36:51,100 --> 02:36:56,640
There'll be a traffic study to determine any additional measures that may be required to accommodate

1590
02:36:56,640 --> 02:37:02,640
that traffic. I know one thing that the developer had early on was conversations with our

1591
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:07,160
traffic department and one thing they mentioned was that there will be a decil lane required

1592
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:12,220
southbound on Stewart Street for access into the parking garage and that in the access lane

1593
02:37:12,220 --> 02:37:17,520
out have already been accommodated on the site plan, pending those early discussions. So a few final

1594
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:22,410
traffic to be determined but it is in the larger plan with the details to follow. Thank you.

1595
02:37:23,390 --> 02:37:33,010
On page 133, right there at the very beginning, it says that Adams, C.C. development, L.C.

1596
02:37:33,010 --> 02:37:38,050
and Nevada limited liability company and wholly owned entity of hop in the Adams Foundation,

1597
02:37:38,990 --> 02:37:45,070
hereby submits a proposal to develop, construct, maintain, and operate a parking garage.

1598
02:37:45,890 --> 02:37:57,130
However, on page 134, down towards the bottom, it says that a soon-to-be-formed and that

1599
02:37:57,130 --> 02:38:02,770
a non-profit corporation, carcensity, development, corporation, will be in charge of the

1600
02:38:02,770 --> 02:38:05,050
operation of the transportation facility.

1601
02:38:05,050 --> 02:38:12,270
So, I wonder, who are we dealing with and what do we expect they might be doing?

1602
02:38:15,530 --> 02:38:23,110
How do we're supposedly approving a plan today by meeting certain findings?

1603
02:38:24,150 --> 02:38:29,870
And yet, I don't think we know who we're dealing with.

1604
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:32,510
You may answer Mr. McKenzie.

1605
02:38:33,930 --> 02:38:35,930
Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the board.

1606
02:38:36,630 --> 02:38:37,270
Very good question.

1607
02:38:37,770 --> 02:38:38,770
I think that's the jittimate.

1608
02:38:40,070 --> 02:38:44,690
The concept is for a nonprofit to be, I'm sorry.

1609
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:52,370
The concept is for a nonprofit to be the owner of the parking garage.

1610
02:38:53,330 --> 02:38:56,610
And right now, the developer is a developing in his,

1611
02:38:56,610 --> 02:39:00,130
is Adams CC development LLC as the developer.

1612
02:39:00,130 --> 02:39:07,910
The owner, presently, is hopping me, but it's going to be dedicated to the plan is, ending everything,

1613
02:39:08,270 --> 02:39:12,750
is to be dedicated to a nonprofit with an order overseeing that nonprofit.

1614
02:39:13,990 --> 02:39:16,550
And so it's not for profit facility whatsoever.

1615
02:39:17,150 --> 02:39:18,610
It's a common private ownership.

1616
02:39:19,050 --> 02:39:24,390
And so ultimately, that entity will be formed, but there's not a purpose for me yet.

1617
02:39:24,930 --> 02:39:27,410
If things proceed, that would be the plan.

1618
02:39:32,450 --> 02:39:42,810
I have to tell you, I'm not able to make several of the findings that are listed in here.

1619
02:39:47,740 --> 02:39:58,360
So, appreciate the explanation on the transportation plan, but on page 130, finding number two.

1620
02:39:58,360 --> 02:39:59,960
Um...

1621
02:40:00,960 --> 02:40:16,680
Without a determination from the RTC or Campo, whoever would be in charge of doing it, that this isn't appropriate request, I don't know how we make that finding.

1622
02:40:19,020 --> 02:40:27,260
I don't know how we know as it states that it is compatible with a statewide or regional

1623
02:40:27,260 --> 02:40:28,180
program.

1624
02:40:28,860 --> 02:40:35,820
Again, without the RTC or the Campo, officially publicly making that statement, how do we

1625
02:40:35,820 --> 02:40:36,740
make that finding?

1626
02:40:40,350 --> 02:40:49,230
The plans for the person's finding number four, the plans or the person submitting the request

1627
02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:55,510
will result in a timely development or construction of or improvement to the transportation

1628
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:56,830
facility,

1629
02:41:01,600 --> 02:41:08,640
honestly, I don't see a plan here, I see a request that this item be taken up.

1630
02:41:08,640 --> 02:41:13,720
I don't see a plan for construction improvement

1631
02:41:13,720 --> 02:41:16,700
for transportation facility.

1632
02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:22,600
Again, number five, I don't see a plan.

1633
02:41:25,060 --> 02:41:28,300
Finding number six, the long-term quality

1634
02:41:28,300 --> 02:41:30,800
of the transportation facility will meet a level

1635
02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:33,680
of performance established by the public body,

1636
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:36,360
over a sufficient duration of time

1637
02:41:36,360 --> 02:41:46,840
to provide value to the public. Again, I ask who is the applicant that is putting forward this plan.

1638
02:41:47,580 --> 02:41:53,540
If we don't know that, how do we make this finding? Again, I appreciate your explanation,

1639
02:41:54,420 --> 02:41:58,840
but if we don't know who it is, if we don't know what their bylaws are, their mission statement,

1640
02:41:58,840 --> 02:42:03,100
How do we have confidence that this will go forward?

1641
02:42:06,460 --> 02:42:14,100
I just can't get enough findings in my pocket to make me comfortable with this particular agenda.

1642
02:42:15,720 --> 02:42:18,840
Do you have any further comments or questions?

1643
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:27,360
Supervisor Sharia, I just have so two number four, the plans of the person submitting the request will

1644
02:42:27,360 --> 02:42:35,780
result in the timely development or construction. I see will as a future that first one thing

1645
02:42:35,780 --> 02:42:41,380
has to happen prior to the other, am I mistaken on that or could there be some clarification?

1646
02:42:44,410 --> 02:42:49,410
I would tend to urge your interpretation supervisor and again there are a lot of moving pieces

1647
02:42:49,410 --> 02:42:55,750
and I appreciate supervisors, whites, comments and knowing who we're dealing with and what those agreements look like.

1648
02:42:55,950 --> 02:42:59,190
Again, all I can offer there is that that is why we are here at this stage.

1649
02:42:59,630 --> 02:43:07,470
If this board were to say no, all any planned developments, any agreements, any other things that might have been in place would have been a waste of everybody's time.

1650
02:43:08,470 --> 02:43:14,370
If we say yes today, then we go forth and we make sure that everything that has been discussed today is in the final agreement.

1651
02:43:14,370 --> 02:43:18,070
everything to protect the city, and it's investment in city all, everything to

1652
02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:21,530
and protect the city, it's investment in the parking spaces, and the

1653
02:43:21,530 --> 02:43:26,970
and the ultimate development of the town square. Again, step one, step two, step three.

1654
02:43:27,150 --> 02:43:31,590
This is the next iteration based on your direction for a new diligence process to

1655
02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:36,410
come back and look at the best agreement and your staff and the external staff that we have

1656
02:43:36,410 --> 02:43:43,470
consulted with agree that the P3 is the best program. That recommendation is based on your staff

1657
02:43:43,470 --> 02:43:49,750
and our external consultants, it is not based on anything the foundation is recommended and

1658
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:53,630
they're basing that proposal based on our recommendation to you.

1659
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:54,490
Thank you.

1660
02:43:55,690 --> 02:44:06,310
And is it fair to say that this process and where we are now is the result of many, many board

1661
02:44:06,310 --> 02:44:07,070
meetings,

1662
02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:10,790
discussing space needs?

1663
02:44:11,370 --> 02:44:16,070
I think, yes, I think, again, if we go back to previous board meetings in my tenure here

1664
02:44:16,070 --> 02:44:20,850
in the last few months, I think it is fair to say that from a construction standpoint

1665
02:44:20,850 --> 02:44:27,390
and looking to the future standpoint, discussions occurred as early as 2015, and just within

1666
02:44:27,390 --> 02:44:32,470
the last five or six years when you look at the open the space needs, it was done in 2022

1667
02:44:32,470 --> 02:44:38,050
and presented to the board when you go back there and you look a few years ago where this board

1668
02:44:38,050 --> 02:44:44,150
looked at Arrowhead property. It looked at North Carson Street property. Those sites were determined

1669
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:49,830
to not meet this board's requirements for various reasons. Yes, I believe it has been a long-term

1670
02:44:49,830 --> 02:44:56,170
project and it's just again, if I could quote the mayor in a conversation that her and I had

1671
02:44:56,170 --> 02:44:59,970
earlier this week. Again, it's the process. This is...

1672
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,040
This is transparency, whether you believe so or not. And when you look at it, it's just trying to find where this project doesn't make sense.

1673
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:12,880
Where can this board stop and say if that's what it chooses to do and that is completely right.

1674
02:45:13,440 --> 02:45:19,020
To say no, this does not make sense for us. Mr. City manager go forth and find plan B and make it work.

1675
02:45:19,020 --> 02:45:30,320
today. We haven't found that as your team. And again, I am happy to find a plan B any time this board does decide there is a no at this point in this project.

1676
02:45:31,420 --> 02:45:33,740
Thank you. Supervisor Jami.

1677
02:45:38,500 --> 02:45:46,400
This is not really a question to statement. We're not committing to anything. We're committing to having you relative to the parking garage.

1678
02:45:46,400 --> 02:45:50,160
bring back an agreement for our perusal and scrutiny.

1679
02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:54,880
There's no commitment beyond spending time developing a proposal.

1680
02:45:55,760 --> 02:45:56,120
That's right.

1681
02:45:56,280 --> 02:45:59,540
The plan, as this agenda item says.

1682
02:45:59,980 --> 02:46:00,820
That's correct supervisor.

1683
02:46:02,060 --> 02:46:03,240
Supervisor wait.

1684
02:46:03,820 --> 02:46:09,100
But we are being asked to make these six findings today to pass this forward.

1685
02:46:09,220 --> 02:46:14,120
And when you have comments in the staff reports such as finding number five,

1686
02:46:14,120 --> 02:46:19,040
The city will ensure penalties are incorporated in the agreement that the board is presented

1687
02:46:20,220 --> 02:46:26,220
for consideration. Well, if those penalties aren't here today, how do we make the finding?

1688
02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:32,220
That's my point. That's what we're being asked to do today is make these six findings.

1689
02:46:34,220 --> 02:46:36,740
Okay, I don't see anyone else with their

1690
02:46:36,740 --> 02:46:41,140
And as Ray, so do I have a motion on

1691
02:46:44,250 --> 02:46:45,350
one to read?

1692
02:46:45,650 --> 02:46:47,130
Supervisor Shuddy.

1693
02:46:47,510 --> 02:46:51,990
I move to approve the proposal from Adam CCD Development LLC.

1694
02:46:52,590 --> 02:47:05,350
Having considered the criteria described in subsection one of NRS 338.166 and making the determination that the parking facility will serve a public purpose.

1695
02:47:05,350 --> 02:47:30,190
contingent on the future execution of a written agreement described in Subsection 5 of NRS338.166 and to direct the city manager to proceed with all necessary tasks for the preparation of the agreement and any other necessary supporting material to bring back to this board for acceptance and approval.

1696
02:47:30,190 --> 02:47:59,990
have a motion in a second, just slightly on discussion. I think some things in the law are kind of strange and I understand what supervisor white is saying because it's like looking at a ball to say something's already happened but before it goes to the planning commission on the parking garage and gets its parking study and it's things you can't

1697
02:47:59,990 --> 02:48:25,690
which comes first. And so I will say I questioned, oh my goodness, what order, like you said, on all of this, it just seems a little bit strange on the order of documents, but we pay a lot of lawyers, a lot of money to keep us straight to keep us in the right order of how things have to progress through the process.

1698
02:48:25,690 --> 02:48:34,910
and so I'm comfortable that we're moving it in a direction and I think everything really hinges

1699
02:48:34,910 --> 02:48:44,530
on the final actual agreements that we get with full detail at that time and I too wish some

1700
02:48:44,530 --> 02:48:53,270
things. I love information, I love documents, I want to read it all and see it all too, but I can't

1701
02:48:53,270 --> 02:49:01,110
it until it's ready to be seen and until details. It's kind of like I looked when we do a budget

1702
02:49:01,750 --> 02:49:09,350
and we put in there the five years of what we think we're going to spend on capital, right?

1703
02:49:09,450 --> 02:49:15,730
That's something we do all the time. We utilize something called an engineer's estimate.

1704
02:49:15,730 --> 02:49:25,650
We don't have any line item details that tell us how much that the HVAC at the community center is going to cost.

1705
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:40,890
What we have is an engineer that says, oh, based on known knowledge, it's approximately blank per square foot or blank per air conditioner, but what we have is an engineer's estimate.

1706
02:49:40,890 --> 02:49:46,750
And then we go to bid if we approve those projects.

1707
02:49:47,310 --> 02:49:50,750
And I see this exactly the same way.

1708
02:49:51,490 --> 02:49:54,090
It's a lot more complex and a lot more difficult,

1709
02:49:54,470 --> 02:49:56,930
but at the end of the day for me to make the decision,

1710
02:49:57,130 --> 02:49:59,830
that's what it comes down to is right now.

1711
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:07,120
Looking at engineers estimates, but before I can pull the final trigger, I will have actual

1712
02:50:07,120 --> 02:50:16,260
bids. I will have, I'll have stuff to seek my teeth into type stuff. We'll have pricing. Right

1713
02:50:16,260 --> 02:50:22,260
now I have engineers estimates. I guess I just wanted to state that for the record. It is in

1714
02:50:22,260 --> 02:50:29,300
the normal process of how things happen. It's just somebody said earlier, it's correct. We don't

1715
02:50:29,300 --> 02:50:38,840
build office buildings and big projects like this very often right every 30 years or 50 years.

1716
02:50:39,080 --> 02:50:44,240
Somebody asked, is this going to last longer than 30 years? I sure hope so.

1717
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:49,920
I think I'm going, I don't know if you look at our current city halls, what 50 years old?

1718
02:50:50,500 --> 02:50:58,180
We tend to stay in those buildings forever, but anyway, I just wanted to say, I'm looking

1719
02:50:58,180 --> 02:51:03,060
if this personally is engineers estimates, at this point in time.

1720
02:51:03,520 --> 02:51:05,360
Supervisor White hit another comment.

1721
02:51:06,060 --> 02:51:08,680
Thank you, yes, on discussion of the motion.

1722
02:51:09,420 --> 02:51:18,060
In the motion, having considered the criteria described in Subsection 1 and RS338.166.

1723
02:51:18,460 --> 02:51:21,340
At the risk of being accused of playing lawyer again,

1724
02:51:22,160 --> 02:51:26,160
might I ask you to revisit the slaughterhouse?

1725
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:34,800
If you all don't get pretty specific about what findings you are making, we're going to get sued again.

1726
02:51:42,330 --> 02:51:45,230
Supervisor Shudi on discussion of the motion.

1727
02:51:49,630 --> 02:51:50,810
I can make the finding.

1728
02:51:51,050 --> 02:51:56,130
I went back and I'm comfortable with you.

1729
02:51:56,130 --> 02:51:56,890
Thank you.

1730
02:51:57,690 --> 02:52:03,530
We have a, oh, I think somebody said earlier, it gets bad when we have a lawyer step up.

1731
02:52:03,530 --> 02:52:10,950
Do you want to make some comments from the district attorney's office just the only determination

1732
02:52:13,070 --> 02:52:18,750
I mean one saying yeah the only determination is that it be for a public purpose and the

1733
02:52:18,750 --> 02:52:24,770
listed things are considerations you don't need to you don't need to find in the affirmative

1734
02:52:24,770 --> 02:52:31,730
for each of those five things those are just things that you're required to consider when

1735
02:52:31,730 --> 02:52:35,050
reaching the ultimate determination of whether it serves a public service.

1736
02:52:35,530 --> 02:52:42,250
Thank you. And I think that was a great distinction to me, verse. Thank you, anyway.

1737
02:52:43,210 --> 02:52:48,350
Any further discussion on the motion? All those in favor, please say aye.

1738
02:52:49,150 --> 02:52:53,490
aye. Any opposed? Say no. No. Let the record reflect. It was four. Yes,

1739
02:52:53,570 --> 02:52:59,150
is one. No, by supervisor, white. Thank you so much. Are you guys okay if we just finish up

1740
02:52:59,150 --> 02:53:03,910
our peace and then we'll break for the Board of Health.

1741
02:53:04,910 --> 02:53:11,350
Does anybody have any items or neat things to discuss?

1742
02:53:11,810 --> 02:53:13,050
Okay, that was good.

1743
02:53:13,310 --> 02:53:15,770
We'll go to agenda item 17.

1744
02:53:16,850 --> 02:53:20,510
Our final public comment for the Board of Supervisors.

1745
02:53:20,770 --> 02:53:23,510
Not the Board of Health for the Board of Supervisors.

1746
02:53:23,510 --> 02:53:28,510
for the supervisors. Final public comment for the Board of Supervisors.

1747
02:53:36,160 --> 02:53:41,220
Listen, okay. Okay. Mary Sinata, Citizen of Carson City.

1748
02:53:42,400 --> 02:53:48,980
As my final comment, I'd just like to say that I'm very disappointed that there are

1749
02:53:48,980 --> 02:53:55,020
four supervisors here that don't seem to care about the public interest

1750
02:53:55,020 --> 02:54:03,440
or the public. Good. You're not listening to us. You keep. We keep hearing that there's been

1751
02:54:03,440 --> 02:54:09,100
all these other board meetings and a lot of us have shown up to all those other board meetings

1752
02:54:09,100 --> 02:54:17,640
and every meeting, four to one, four to one. We have one supervisor who appears to listen to us.

1753
02:54:17,940 --> 02:54:19,400
And I'm very disappointed.

1754
02:54:27,380 --> 02:54:31,400
I am Michael Greedy and I am still a voter in Carson City.

1755
02:54:32,100 --> 02:54:36,440
I'm going to give you an example of why we seem to have these discussions.

1756
02:54:38,420 --> 02:54:50,900
In front of me is sheet AS-1, which was one of the displays at the staff sponsored preview event a couple weeks ago.

1757
02:54:52,100 --> 02:54:59,980
An examination of it shows the parking garage access will be on East Telegraph Street, but East Telegraph Street.

1758
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:11,400
The administration is annotated to be abandoned. This same graphic shows the deacceleration lane on

1759
02:55:11,400 --> 02:55:17,200
Stewart Street, which was mentioned today. Although I can't find it somewhere in all this stuff

1760
02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:27,780
is a notation that East telegraph street was going to be one way eastbound from North Carson Street to Stewart Street.

1761
02:55:29,400 --> 02:55:39,940
These details are what's causing a lot of the public uproar, Mr. Martel's proposed schedule.

1762
02:55:40,260 --> 02:55:48,000
I don't think it's going to be sufficient enough to fully evaluate these proposals.

1763
02:55:48,380 --> 02:55:50,060
And I disagree with the mayor.

1764
02:55:50,320 --> 02:55:51,800
These are not complex.

1765
02:55:51,800 --> 02:56:01,340
Most of the people I've met in private meetings are season professionals and of evaluated

1766
02:56:01,340 --> 02:56:10,620
far more complex proposals and I must reiterate that I think this entire city, new city hall

1767
02:56:10,620 --> 02:56:17,100
and a company garage proposal is a potential black hole in the fourth car city.

1768
02:56:17,500 --> 02:56:18,640
Thank you.

1769
02:56:20,140 --> 02:56:21,420
Mr. French.

1770
02:56:22,220 --> 02:56:23,800
Danny French, Carson City.

1771
02:56:24,740 --> 02:56:26,760
I do appreciate y'all being here.

1772
02:56:27,180 --> 02:56:30,700
What frustrates the head of me is this some mud foot.

1773
02:56:31,360 --> 02:56:37,980
I feel that trying to be in the open and understanding what you're doing.

1774
02:56:38,020 --> 02:56:39,980
I'm looking at the angles you're providing.

1775
02:56:40,760 --> 02:56:46,920
And if you had things that I could really set my head to and I'm not finding contrary by

1776
02:56:46,920 --> 02:56:51,680
people that are really digging into it and looking at it from another perspective, I'd go,

1777
02:56:51,940 --> 02:56:57,860
hey, the reason we're not understanding each other because nothing's firm. There's just too much

1778
02:56:57,860 --> 02:57:03,380
vagueness. There's too much speculation. There are people that are stepping into this suggesting

1779
02:57:03,380 --> 02:57:11,360
their foundation parts or CCs that I'm not able to keep up with. And I think the problem is that

1780
02:57:11,360 --> 02:57:19,700
There is a lack of your ability to explain this in a way that is comprehensible.

1781
02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:26,440
What keeps moving, even the way it's brought up by the city manager, what moves this

1782
02:57:26,440 --> 02:57:27,160
project forward.

1783
02:57:27,380 --> 02:57:36,680
No, this is an item that is set to set up a possible construction, but it's not to pass

1784
02:57:36,680 --> 02:57:37,920
for that yet.

1785
02:57:38,340 --> 02:57:39,600
We're not at that stage.

1786
02:57:39,600 --> 02:57:45,600
the way he worded it again, you refer back to my statements earlier, choosing your words is

1787
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:50,220
important. What is suggesting is you've got this all figured out. The only thing is you have to

1788
02:57:50,220 --> 02:57:55,760
roll over us very quietly or just make it so bleak that we won't be able to catch you on certain

1789
02:57:55,760 --> 02:58:09,580
things. But I think we have enough individuals with you included to be able to look at this

1790
02:58:09,580 --> 02:58:15,800
stand, and you have a different position. But our understanding is not based on just this and

1791
02:58:15,800 --> 02:58:22,560
that, it based on your own words. You've done this whole of confusion. And I agree it's going to

1792
02:58:22,560 --> 02:58:27,240
turn out to be a black hole. If we don't get that stuff cleared up, people are always going to say,

1793
02:58:27,640 --> 02:58:34,360
well, why didn't you explain it or why didn't you nail it down? So please help us. You're worse.

1794
02:58:39,560 --> 02:58:39,560
I don't

1795
02:58:39,560 --> 02:58:45,340
concerns that are, I think, sufficiently important for you to address and you're not. You're not giving

1796
02:58:45,340 --> 02:58:47,360
us what we need. Thank you.

1797
02:58:49,940 --> 02:58:56,160
Mike, that's not just for the record. I'm hungry. I just wanted to

1798
02:58:56,160 --> 02:59:04,540
make a comment. It's interesting to see the agenda items and the recommendations by staff

1799
02:59:04,540 --> 02:59:09,660
and just to remind you that we're allowed as supervisors. I think to revise motions and make

1800
02:59:09,660 --> 02:59:14,620
at its promotions, not simply just disagree with the motion provided to us, I found that last

1801
02:59:14,620 --> 02:59:20,280
motion interesting because it does say that upon bringing back, it was for agreement,

1802
02:59:20,500 --> 02:59:26,820
not for discussion. So just find that interesting as House of the Motion was awarded. I also

1803
02:59:26,820 --> 02:59:32,100
want to make a comment because it's been bothering me and I need to put it out there, the comment

1804
02:59:32,100 --> 02:59:37,200
about Joe public. You know, we don't want Joe public all up in our business. That really bothered me

1805
02:59:37,200 --> 02:59:39,180
because Joe Public is well informed.

1806
02:59:39,800 --> 02:59:40,640
They're well educated.

1807
02:59:40,920 --> 02:59:42,280
People deserve a seat at the table.

1808
02:59:42,720 --> 02:59:45,660
They deserve to have conversations with our supervisors

1809
02:59:45,660 --> 02:59:46,840
with our elected officials.

1810
02:59:47,320 --> 02:59:49,440
Someone made a comment about ethics earlier today.

1811
02:59:49,520 --> 02:59:52,720
We have an ethical responsibility to the city

1812
02:59:52,720 --> 02:59:54,460
to make sure that we're having discussions

1813
02:59:54,460 --> 02:59:56,200
and not simply dismissing people

1814
02:59:56,200 --> 02:59:57,740
because they're Joe Public and don't need

1815
02:59:57,740 --> 02:59:58,800
to be all of our business.

1816
02:59:59,080 --> 02:59:59,580
Thank you.

1817
03:00:02,160 --> 03:00:03,880
Epc.

1818
03:00:06,130 --> 03:00:08,530
Straussburg, Carson City resident.

1819
03:00:10,810 --> 03:00:20,070
I just don't know where to start. I mean, we have had 41 vote decisions since March.

1820
03:00:20,070 --> 03:00:28,090
It's clear to the Joe public that you have made up your mind.

1821
03:00:28,770 --> 03:00:32,030
So why bother? Why waste your time?

1822
03:00:32,370 --> 03:00:38,570
Why waste our time by doing resolution after resolution after resolution?

1823
03:00:39,270 --> 03:00:46,970
With incomplete information because it's all going to be revealed at a subsequent date.

1824
03:00:46,970 --> 03:01:02,810
just get it over with. Make a decision. We're tired of you discussing the resolution of the resolution when you don't have the information because that's the mayor said.

1825
03:01:02,810 --> 03:01:11,490
You are getting the information at the same time we are and if we don't have the information then you don't have the information.

1826
03:01:12,090 --> 03:01:24,230
So why bother with all these resolution? We're not lawyers. You have a personal lawyer over here and there are lines in there that we don't understand.

1827
03:01:24,230 --> 03:01:42,010
For example, on 14A, the payment of costs related to the project and the reimbursement of such costs from the proceeds of the agreement is consistent with the city's budgetary and financial circumstance as of the date of this resolution.

1828
03:01:42,010 --> 03:01:49,630
as of the date of this resolution. What does that mean? I don't know. So just get it over with.

1829
03:01:49,810 --> 03:01:56,730
Make a decision and quit wasting your time and my time on resolution because we don't

1830
03:01:56,730 --> 03:02:02,170
understand that your role is made, but we don't. So make a decision and get on with it.

1831
03:02:05,700 --> 03:02:11,180
Terry Preston for the record. Laurie, I really appreciate you bringing up something.

1832
03:02:11,180 --> 03:02:15,420
is that you'd like to know where all the numbers are and the budgets are and so forth and there was

1833
03:02:15,420 --> 03:02:21,160
something was brought up with the July 16th meeting. It was questioned is that and I realized

1834
03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:27,180
this is kind of off topic but when we're talking about numbers which I know you enjoy. What we've

1835
03:02:27,180 --> 03:02:32,880
got is we've got $30 million for the city hall and we've got $8 million here and the one thing

1836
03:02:32,880 --> 03:02:37,860
that's brought up in kind of that was not really discussed because it wasn't in there and you had said

1837
03:02:37,860 --> 03:02:41,300
in the 16th meeting was, we haven't addressed that yet.

1838
03:02:41,660 --> 03:02:42,600
That's FFNE.

1839
03:02:43,300 --> 03:02:45,540
That's the fixtures for machines and the expenses

1840
03:02:45,540 --> 03:02:48,980
to run this thing, whether it be the parking garage

1841
03:02:48,980 --> 03:02:50,720
or whether it be this building.

1842
03:02:51,480 --> 03:02:54,100
Because one of the big considerations you have is great.

1843
03:02:54,120 --> 03:02:57,020
You have a building, you have carpet, you have walls.

1844
03:02:57,160 --> 03:02:59,000
You're still going to have to have a IT.

1845
03:02:59,600 --> 03:03:01,060
You're going to have to have a desk.

1846
03:03:01,140 --> 03:03:02,600
You're going to have to have a chair.

1847
03:03:03,240 --> 03:03:07,020
When this was remodeled during COVID, that was quite an expense,

1848
03:03:07,020 --> 03:03:08,800
but was picked up with COVID funds.

1849
03:03:09,340 --> 03:03:12,400
Before a long time, this meeting room was absolutely sufficient

1850
03:03:12,400 --> 03:03:14,940
when we were all there, but now we have six foot distancing.

1851
03:03:15,920 --> 03:03:18,380
So you're gonna be doing a building,

1852
03:03:19,840 --> 03:03:23,440
an estimated new meeting room

1853
03:03:23,440 --> 03:03:25,980
of approximately 7,000 square feet,

1854
03:03:26,220 --> 03:03:28,140
a 10,000 square foot open space,

1855
03:03:28,560 --> 03:03:31,420
which I don't know if you realize is two basketball courts,

1856
03:03:31,460 --> 03:03:33,220
two regulation basketball courts.

1857
03:03:33,600 --> 03:03:34,480
What are you gonna do?

1858
03:03:34,740 --> 03:03:36,100
I mean, you're gonna have to pay chairs for that.

1859
03:03:36,100 --> 03:03:38,300
you're going to have to put in speakers,

1860
03:03:38,540 --> 03:03:40,860
you're going to have to put in all of these different things.

1861
03:03:41,260 --> 03:03:44,140
That's not factored into this 30 million dollars.

1862
03:03:45,080 --> 03:03:47,700
Your desk, your desk, your assistant's desk.

1863
03:03:47,840 --> 03:03:49,780
The treasure is office, the partitions,

1864
03:03:50,260 --> 03:03:54,080
the counter in order to create the public interface.

1865
03:03:55,040 --> 03:03:57,080
None of that is being factored into this.

1866
03:03:57,340 --> 03:03:59,600
Are you going to do, like we used to do with welfare,

1867
03:03:59,740 --> 03:04:01,100
that was a general fund account,

1868
03:04:01,520 --> 03:04:03,200
and they'd have to take all their desks

1869
03:04:03,200 --> 03:04:04,760
and we'd have to cobble it together

1870
03:04:04,760 --> 03:04:11,900
with a planning person to say, we have a desk that was a VA desk from 1938 and weighs 400

1871
03:04:11,900 --> 03:04:12,480
pounds.

1872
03:04:12,780 --> 03:04:17,380
So now we have to put it here on a space on a building and we have to put it right where

1873
03:04:17,380 --> 03:04:18,180
the floor joy is.

1874
03:04:18,360 --> 03:04:23,300
So it doesn't fall through the floor, like kid and kid, let's talk about some of these things.

1875
03:04:23,640 --> 03:04:25,300
And that's one of the things I want to talk about.

1876
03:04:25,440 --> 03:04:27,080
That's money we're not talking about.

1877
03:04:27,260 --> 03:04:29,120
Where's that money coming from?

1878
03:04:35,290 --> 03:04:36,910
Karen Stevens for the record.

1879
03:04:37,810 --> 03:04:43,950
Let's say I am extremely disappointed in Mr. Martel's comments.

1880
03:04:45,010 --> 03:04:52,930
He basically told all of you, if you do not vote on this item in the affirmative, you

1881
03:04:52,930 --> 03:04:58,090
have wasted all of our time that we have done with all our studies.

1882
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:06,400
I don't think that is good policy to do. It is to say to people, you need to vote for this.

1883
03:05:06,940 --> 03:05:13,780
Because if you don't, this is what happens. That is not correct behavior for a city manager.

1884
03:05:19,160 --> 03:05:25,680
Carson City resident. So I've been listening to all this today and I read the

1885
03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:31,880
Carson now article. As it is I would be against this project but I have

1886
03:05:31,880 --> 03:05:36,720
something else that I'd like to bring to you and that is I've heard several

1887
03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:42,780
people say why don't you let the voters decide and I've heard no discussion

1888
03:05:42,780 --> 03:05:48,960
whatsoever about that you all have to sell yourself for your positions and get

1889
03:05:48,960 --> 03:05:55,060
people to vote for you. So if this is such a great idea, sell your project to the people,

1890
03:05:55,380 --> 03:06:01,100
and let them vote on it. And I'd like to hear you all discuss why you don't want that to happen,

1891
03:06:01,580 --> 03:06:10,300
because I haven't heard any discussion on that. Thank you. Have any other? Okay. Then we'll bring it back

1892
03:06:10,300 --> 03:06:18,280
up here, and we are, unless anyone has anything, we are ready to adjourn as the Board of Supervisors.

1893
03:06:18,960 --> 03:06:26,060
and just a five minute break is Dr. Lyons here. So we're adjourned as the Board of Supervisors.

1894
03:06:26,540 --> 03:06:27,260
Thank you.

1895
03:07:03,920 --> 03:07:16,020
I'm Dr. Lyons and leading by example. I'm wearing a mask today as my 14 year old grandson's mother

1896
03:07:16,020 --> 03:07:29,300
who works for the elementary schools in Washington County has brought home some infectious material and I'm one of the last six grandparents to be infected with it.

1897
03:07:29,300 --> 03:07:40,340
I don't want to share it. So I will I will I will tell you that it is not COVID, but and it is not influences. I do not have a fever.

1898
03:07:41,000 --> 03:07:45,860
Noir has anyone else out of here, but it's not pleasant, so we don't want to share.

1899
03:07:46,840 --> 03:07:48,620
With that, I'll ask for a roll call.

1900
03:07:49,300 --> 03:07:50,320
Per person, Lyons.

1901
03:07:51,360 --> 03:07:51,460
Here.

1902
03:07:51,460 --> 03:07:51,620
Here.

1903
03:07:52,080 --> 03:07:52,580
Here.

1904
03:07:53,940 --> 03:07:54,400
White.

1905
03:07:55,140 --> 03:07:55,180
Here.

1906
03:07:55,220 --> 03:07:55,360
Member.

1907
03:07:55,500 --> 03:07:55,640
Here.

1908
03:07:57,480 --> 03:07:57,820
Member.

1909
03:07:58,180 --> 03:07:58,800
For a long.

1910
03:07:59,500 --> 03:08:00,880
Here next to you.

1911
03:08:00,940 --> 03:08:01,520
You have a car.

1912
03:08:02,420 --> 03:08:03,160
Thank you.

1913
03:08:03,260 --> 03:08:03,520
Member.

1914
03:08:03,740 --> 03:08:04,460
Never back now.

1915
03:08:08,430 --> 03:08:11,770
And as an opening, is there any public comment?

1916
03:08:11,770 --> 03:08:12,570
Danny

1917
03:08:25,660 --> 03:08:39,620
French Carson City, Nevada, thank you chair, we go way back, you know me and and I think the board does a little or at least has a sense of my character or the fact that I am one.

1918
03:08:40,140 --> 03:08:50,580
The deal is that this is a very serious time for us as far as what's going around it. I'm looking forward to Dr. Lyon's help with our understanding of the degrees of this.

1919
03:08:51,480 --> 03:08:59,720
I also want to say that due to my library use and my park use and and getting around town,

1920
03:09:00,160 --> 03:09:03,820
I've met a lot of people that are dealing with food insecurities right now.

1921
03:09:04,340 --> 03:09:10,100
Our food banks are very low in their supplies and their supplies are set more for those that have cooking

1922
03:09:10,100 --> 03:09:12,760
and facility of kitchen and such.

1923
03:09:12,760 --> 03:09:17,100
We also have, I think, a sort of, of high, you know, areas.

1924
03:09:17,680 --> 03:09:22,940
Fish is providing one shower for the men, one shower for the woman, women.

1925
03:09:23,380 --> 03:09:26,920
And they have two washing machines and two dryers.

1926
03:09:27,900 --> 03:09:28,700
They are stretched.

1927
03:09:28,760 --> 03:09:33,380
And those individuals that do use those for the use of the washing machine.

1928
03:09:33,500 --> 03:09:34,080
It's a dollar.

1929
03:09:34,580 --> 03:09:37,380
And for somebody that doesn't have more than two cents, they're pocket.

1930
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That's a big go.

1931
03:09:38,580 --> 03:09:39,420
And a big get.

1932
03:09:39,420 --> 03:09:45,700
So, I would like to see our city consider the situation we're dealing with.

1933
03:09:45,740 --> 03:09:46,640
People are people.

1934
03:09:46,820 --> 03:09:50,820
They're going to have issues whether they've lived here for 10 years or they've come into town

1935
03:09:50,820 --> 03:09:54,420
on expecting Lee poversed.

1936
03:09:55,180 --> 03:09:59,320
Those kind of considerations hit our health services big time.

1937
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:19,220
I've taken several people to the emergency. I've had, you know, we're, we're using facilities and we're using doctors and people's time when we could avoid some of this by having situations a little bit more compatible with their needs. Thank you.

1938
03:10:22,150 --> 03:10:25,430
Thank you, Danny, for that. Any other public comment?

1939
03:10:27,410 --> 03:10:36,410
Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to possible action regarding the approval of the minutes from June 4th of this year.

1940
03:10:37,530 --> 03:10:41,910
I'm of the approval of Cercid Board of Health, meeting minutes from June 4th, 2026 as president.

1941
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Back in.

1942
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And that was a second from Supervisor White.

1943
03:10:48,010 --> 03:10:48,210
Yes.

1944
03:10:48,270 --> 03:10:50,130
All those in favor say aye.

1945
03:10:51,090 --> 03:10:51,190
Aye.

1946
03:10:51,190 --> 03:11:02,810
opposed motion passes unanimously on to item 23 health and human services. And I believe this is

1947
03:11:04,690 --> 03:11:12,210
you. Yeah, sorry, this has got cut off. So this is my report. I'm just, no,

1948
03:11:14,530 --> 03:11:15,490
it's partnership

1949
03:11:15,490 --> 03:11:19,730
of Douglas County and that would be why we have this. I'm the Executive Director of Partnership

1950
03:11:19,730 --> 03:11:22,270
of Douglas County and I'm here to talk about our

1951
03:11:22,270 --> 03:11:22,870
since city.

1952
03:11:23,550 --> 03:11:25,790
If you are not aware as of June 30th partnership

1953
03:11:25,790 --> 03:11:28,230
Carson City closed their doors and ceased operations

1954
03:11:28,230 --> 03:11:31,990
in Carson City and my organization was designated by the state

1955
03:11:31,990 --> 03:11:34,270
to step in and begin serving Carson City

1956
03:11:34,270 --> 03:11:36,270
so there was no gaps in services.

1957
03:11:38,650 --> 03:11:39,590
I don't click.

1958
03:11:42,220 --> 03:11:43,180
So just a little bit of background

1959
03:11:43,180 --> 03:11:46,300
of who we are, partnership Douglas County was founded in 1992

1960
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before Melissa's a nonprofit in 1993.

1961
03:11:48,900 --> 03:11:51,600
Our purpose back then was to deal with the meth epidemic

1962
03:11:51,600 --> 03:11:56,180
in Douglas County, that point in time 18% of high school students had ever used

1963
03:11:56,180 --> 03:12:00,440
method in fedamine, and as of today, it's down to 0.8%.

1964
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We were the third founded substance use prevention coalition in the state in Nevada, and

1965
03:12:05,200 --> 03:12:08,560
partnership Carson City at that time was the first founded organization.

1966
03:12:09,640 --> 03:12:13,700
Just an image of some of my staff that we have and we're really proud to be a driving force

1967
03:12:13,700 --> 03:12:19,120
of substance use prevention, community resource education within our community, and to expand

1968
03:12:19,120 --> 03:12:25,580
in a Carson City. So I wanted to start off first and explain what a coalition is because we're not

1969
03:12:25,580 --> 03:12:30,880
just another nonprofit. Under NRS we have a very specific distinction as to what we are supposed

1970
03:12:30,880 --> 03:12:35,780
to provide with in the community that we exist. And the first thing as a certified organization

1971
03:12:35,780 --> 03:12:40,840
is to advise the Department of Health and Human Services on the needs of adults and children

1972
03:12:40,840 --> 03:12:45,480
within the community. And it's more than just substance use. We look at the whole spectrum of

1973
03:12:45,480 --> 03:12:51,220
behavioral health. Everything from providing information regarding homelessness, food and security,

1974
03:12:51,800 --> 03:12:57,320
housing needs, behavioral health services, treatment and substance use prevention, misuse disorders.

1975
03:12:58,480 --> 03:13:03,780
We also provide updates to them on any projects plans or problems that we're seeing within the community.

1976
03:13:04,500 --> 03:13:06,280
We identify gaps in service.

1977
03:13:06,840 --> 03:13:11,320
So if an organization was to close their door, say fish was no longer within Carson City,

1978
03:13:11,320 --> 03:13:19,160
We would provide that information to the state and work with our local entities as well as the state to fill that gap within the community.

1979
03:13:20,060 --> 03:13:25,760
Hence why my organization is stepping into Carson City as the Carson City Group has closed their doors.

1980
03:13:26,280 --> 03:13:30,800
We also give recommendations for prioritizing allocation of resources.

1981
03:13:31,360 --> 03:13:36,880
Whether that is for the state to come in and provide additional services, fund other programs here,

1982
03:13:36,880 --> 03:13:42,340
or any funding that we received directly, we couldn't work on prioritizing it to the needs of the community.

1983
03:13:45,230 --> 03:13:51,290
We convened interested persons together, so we host monthly meetings called Can, it's the Carson Agency Network.

1984
03:13:52,250 --> 03:13:58,350
The Sheriff's Office is very graceful and allowing us to host our meetings there. They are open to the public, anyone is welcome to attend.

1985
03:13:58,930 --> 03:14:05,650
And we bring interested individuals together to talk about the needs of the community and how we can address what is going on within our community.

1986
03:14:05,650 --> 03:14:10,890
We also coordinate and share information, so one of the things my organization will be bringing to

1987
03:14:10,890 --> 03:14:15,910
Carson City is a weekly newsletter that shares about events, activities, and resources that

1988
03:14:15,910 --> 03:14:20,810
are happening within Carson City, specific to mental health, substance use, and behavioral

1989
03:14:20,810 --> 03:14:21,550
health services.

1990
03:14:22,530 --> 03:14:27,410
And then as we receive data, we will compile it into an annual three year report called a

1991
03:14:27,410 --> 03:14:33,030
comprehensive community prevention plan, which provides recommendations for programs or services

1992
03:14:33,030 --> 03:14:35,010
that should be funded within the community,

1993
03:14:35,310 --> 03:14:36,870
while also denoting the organizations

1994
03:14:36,870 --> 03:14:39,490
that are already doing amazing work within the community.

1995
03:14:40,350 --> 03:14:42,330
And that is also free for anyone to use.

1996
03:14:42,470 --> 03:14:44,730
So it's not just for our organization to own,

1997
03:14:44,770 --> 03:14:46,730
any within the use that report to go right

1998
03:14:46,730 --> 03:14:48,150
for additional grants or services.

1999
03:14:48,150 --> 03:14:48,310
side.

2000
03:15:01,040 --> 03:15:16,820
We implement and we provide services within the community. So that's where we do some of our direct work by going into schools and doing evidence-based programs, programs within the community or by contracting with nonprofits within the area to provide specific programs.

2001
03:15:17,380 --> 03:15:24,660
And I do have information on that. I will not be passing that out, but I'm happy to provide it for a meeting minutes if you guys would like to have that as well.

2002
03:15:26,770 --> 03:15:31,430
We also try to increase awareness of services that do exist within the community and reduce

2003
03:15:31,430 --> 03:15:32,750
duplication of efforts.

2004
03:15:33,390 --> 03:15:37,630
And what we mean by duplication of efforts is we're not here to say no more than one organization

2005
03:15:37,630 --> 03:15:43,110
can exist, but if we find out that there's two groups, both going into fourth grade classes

2006
03:15:43,110 --> 03:15:46,050
at the exact same school, doing the exact same program.

2007
03:15:46,430 --> 03:15:49,670
We want to work with them to make sure that we're not just reaching the same set of kids

2008
03:15:49,670 --> 03:15:50,930
with an identical program.

2009
03:15:51,310 --> 03:15:55,390
Maybe see if one organization can go to a different school, we can look at different grades,

2010
03:15:55,390 --> 03:16:01,970
So we can better use the funding in the programs that we have within the community instead of putting it all in one specific area.

2011
03:16:03,450 --> 03:16:08,430
And then the last thing we're required to do is submit an annual report to our Regional Behavioral Policy Board.

2012
03:16:09,210 --> 03:16:11,570
Share a for-along sits on that board for Carson City.

2013
03:16:11,910 --> 03:16:19,070
I currently sit on it for Douglas County and we provide information as to the efforts that are going on within the community.

2014
03:16:21,120 --> 03:16:27,260
So that was very NRS-specific as to what our organization does, but specifically in easier

2015
03:16:27,260 --> 03:16:31,680
terms what we do is we're here to serve the community to have a happy and healthy community

2016
03:16:31,680 --> 03:16:37,260
and support our residents the best we can. And we do that primarily through in-school programs

2017
03:16:37,260 --> 03:16:42,780
where we're doing anything from substance use prevention education to alternative activities.

2018
03:16:43,380 --> 03:16:48,100
I just met with the Mike Freeman at this morning and we're going to be doing a free swim day

2019
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:52,780
organization will cover the cost for everyone to go in that day because that's a form of prevention

2020
03:16:52,780 --> 03:16:59,020
when kids and parents can be together in healthy settings. So I kind of laid out a framework for

2021
03:16:59,020 --> 03:17:04,340
the next three years as to what we're hoping to build here in Carson City. First is rebuilding those

2022
03:17:04,340 --> 03:17:09,940
canned meetings which have already started recruiting partners from the 12 DFC sectors. DFC is the

2023
03:17:09,940 --> 03:17:14,940
federal guidelines on how we operate. It's a small image but we have 12 different sectors we're

2024
03:17:14,940 --> 03:17:19,500
trying to reach. There might be more individuals within the community. We don't bar our services

2025
03:17:19,500 --> 03:17:23,500
or our programs from anyone. These are just what they designate that we must serve.

2026
03:17:24,820 --> 03:17:28,940
I'm going to start collecting information that identify priorities and gaps in Carson City

2027
03:17:29,460 --> 03:17:34,040
and what I can tell you so far already beginning to work in Carson City since July 1st

2028
03:17:34,040 --> 03:17:38,740
is there is a great need for substance use prevention education. There is no organization currently

2029
03:17:38,740 --> 03:17:43,020
doing drug prevention in the schools. And so we're very excited to say that we hold the MUU

2030
03:17:43,020 --> 03:17:45,560
now with the school district to begin programming in October.

2031
03:17:47,020 --> 03:17:51,600
And right now my biggest challenge is really coming up with the DBA for my organization because

2032
03:17:51,600 --> 03:17:55,300
it sounds a little weird when we say partnership Douglass County is serving Carson City.

2033
03:17:55,860 --> 03:18:00,600
So really trying to come up with a DBA that feels representative of this area so that when

2034
03:18:00,600 --> 03:18:04,920
we have a brand new coalition ready to separate from us, they will operate under that name.

2035
03:18:05,060 --> 03:18:07,920
It'll be a familiar name and a logo that people know.

2036
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:16,160
Your two is just really growing capacity. At that point we're hopeful to have more than one staff for Carson City.

2037
03:18:16,660 --> 03:18:22,140
Expand our programs that we're going to be doing in the schools at the moment our plan is to go into middle and high school.

2038
03:18:22,400 --> 03:18:26,040
We are seeing prevention needed as early as second grade in some of our communities.

2039
03:18:26,760 --> 03:18:35,000
In Carson City, recent substance use stats for our schools are showing that you as are having an increase in youth experimenting with substances as young as sixth grade.

2040
03:18:35,000 --> 03:18:39,960
One of the substances that actually increased from 20, 20, 30 was ecstasy in middle school.

2041
03:18:40,440 --> 03:18:45,160
So we really want to make sure that we're in the schools providing that education and supports for parents and teachers.

2042
03:18:45,980 --> 03:18:52,100
Increase awareness and continue to develop a healthy organization with a sustainability plan and policy procedures.

2043
03:18:54,200 --> 03:19:01,340
In year four, our year three I apologize is to have an independent board of directors, have an executive director hired at that point,

2044
03:19:01,340 --> 03:19:07,600
and become BC and certified. So that is the state certification to act as a substance use coalition within the community.

2045
03:19:08,160 --> 03:19:13,560
I currently hold that for Carson. When we go into year three, I will be working with that new non-profit

2046
03:19:13,560 --> 03:19:17,340
to make sure that they can be certified by the state to operate in Carson City.

2047
03:19:18,240 --> 03:19:23,960
And then my role as the Director Partnership Douglas County will to be an advisor on the board for this new coalition.

2048
03:19:24,120 --> 03:19:28,800
So I don't step out of them. I don't stop providing support, but they can operate independently

2049
03:19:28,800 --> 03:19:32,040
and I won't have any voting power per se on that board.

2050
03:19:34,700 --> 03:19:38,700
So some programs that we're bringing to Carson City at the moment are we're currently continuing

2051
03:19:38,700 --> 03:19:40,960
as the prescription drug take back day.

2052
03:19:41,160 --> 03:19:44,760
The next one will be October 24th and I've been working with the Sheriff's Office for

2053
03:19:44,760 --> 03:19:46,640
and the locations for that event.

2054
03:19:47,780 --> 03:19:51,720
We will do the in a lock zone trainings or Narcan, which is the opioid overdose

2055
03:19:51,720 --> 03:19:55,140
reversal medication and we also will provide that for free.

2056
03:19:55,640 --> 03:19:59,560
I know Carson City Health and Human Services currently provides it so we will be a third

2057
03:19:59,560 --> 03:19:59,960
location.

2058
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:14,000
And to provide that as well. Continue to do advocacy for behavioral health needs within Carson City. Make sure that you guys are representative and heard by the state in our regional partners, do substance use education and community outreach programs.

2059
03:20:16,380 --> 03:20:25,220
One of the things that we also are tasked with doing and that we're happy to support is funding specific programs through our partner agencies to continue the good work.

2060
03:20:25,220 --> 03:20:31,400
So as of October 2026, it's as current or October, but we'll begin in October, we're

2061
03:20:31,400 --> 03:20:35,080
funding Nevada Public Health Foundation for a full-time staff to do the drug prevention

2062
03:20:35,080 --> 03:20:39,400
classes in the schools. They have an amazing track record with public health education,

2063
03:20:39,820 --> 03:20:43,860
and so they'll be hiring an individual that can go into the schools to deliver these programs.

2064
03:20:44,700 --> 03:20:48,200
We'll be contracting with Ron Wood Family Resource Center for them to do positive action

2065
03:20:48,200 --> 03:20:51,860
with both adults and youth, and that is a substance use prevention program.

2066
03:20:52,700 --> 03:21:04,340
And we're also going to be working with the Carson City Sheriff's office to have them continue to provide sworn for the fifth grade classes due to prescription drug take back days and also due to community events.

2067
03:21:05,500 --> 03:21:10,380
And programs that we've been funding you just tell me what sworn stands for.

2068
03:21:11,220 --> 03:21:14,100
So I do not know the acronym of sworn chair.

2069
03:21:16,680 --> 03:21:21,760
It is, I believe it is a newer version of Dare that is actually evident in that base.

2070
03:21:21,760 --> 03:21:27,260
I think that's what I figured that so I'm substance, I don't know, anyway, thank you.

2071
03:21:30,140 --> 03:21:42,740
When COVID hit all of the programs that were school-based just collapsed, the school district employees created a offshoot of that Dare program.

2072
03:21:42,740 --> 03:21:51,300
It is not dare specific, but it's more tailored to the dare platform and Carson City students directly.

2073
03:21:51,900 --> 03:21:54,740
My homework is to find out.

2074
03:21:55,540 --> 03:21:56,980
I'll report back.

2075
03:21:57,240 --> 03:21:57,480
Thank you.

2076
03:21:57,540 --> 03:21:59,700
I don't believe sworn as an acronym for anything.

2077
03:22:00,300 --> 03:22:02,820
I think it's just the name of the program correct.

2078
03:22:03,340 --> 03:22:03,940
It's just okay.

2079
03:22:04,080 --> 03:22:04,800
That makes sense.

2080
03:22:05,000 --> 03:22:05,320
Thank you.

2081
03:22:05,500 --> 03:22:06,000
Of course.

2082
03:22:07,640 --> 03:22:08,260
If we could.

2083
03:22:09,300 --> 03:22:15,980
The sworn program is a dare inspired student prevention and education pilot initiative designed

2084
03:22:15,980 --> 03:22:21,320
to help pre-adolescent children make healthy choices and avoid risky behavior, core philosophies

2085
03:22:21,320 --> 03:22:26,020
built around the POSNIC Act decision making model and go on, would you like more?

2086
03:22:28,220 --> 03:22:28,860
Good job.

2087
03:22:29,540 --> 03:22:30,840
It is not an acronym.

2088
03:22:31,560 --> 03:22:33,160
Thank you.

2089
03:22:33,500 --> 03:22:37,240
And current programs that we are funding that are ending in September and I want to note that

2090
03:22:37,240 --> 03:22:42,280
ending in September because these organizations have declined funding, not because we are not choosing

2091
03:22:42,280 --> 03:22:46,600
not to fund them. Boys and girls club, we are currently funding them to do two good for drug

2092
03:22:46,600 --> 03:22:51,100
classes. That is a program that we will also continue within the schools. They have declined

2093
03:22:51,100 --> 03:22:54,840
funding because they had received their own grant, which is amazing and so we're happy to support

2094
03:22:54,840 --> 03:22:59,860
them with that. In Carson City, juvenile services is doing several different programs right now

2095
03:22:59,860 --> 03:23:04,540
in their Saturday programs and working with youth and parents. They have declined funding because

2096
03:23:04,540 --> 03:23:09,160
their newer priority that they're looking to get grants for is to continue to fund their

2097
03:23:09,160 --> 03:23:13,440
licensed drug and alcohol counselor, our funding does not allow us to support that because

2098
03:23:13,440 --> 03:23:19,940
it is treatment based and we are prevention solely. So we're really excited. I look forward

2099
03:23:19,940 --> 03:23:24,480
to continuing to work more in Carson City and to work more with all of you. If you have any

2100
03:23:24,480 --> 03:23:26,680
questions, I'm happy to take them at this time.

2101
03:23:30,380 --> 03:23:32,740
It's not a question, but I really appreciate what

2102
03:23:32,740 --> 03:23:40,840
doing and you know this is so incredibly important and so thank you. Thank you for being such a big

2103
03:23:40,840 --> 03:23:47,460
part of this program and for leading the charge in a really positive way. Thank you very much.

2104
03:23:47,700 --> 03:23:52,020
You know I'll just say if I mean I'm not speaking for everybody but personally if something I can do

2105
03:23:52,020 --> 03:23:56,700
as a board member please let me know I'm sure we all feel the same way so. Thank you very much

2106
03:23:56,700 --> 03:23:58,260
I really appreciate it.

2107
03:24:00,380 --> 03:24:03,840
Yes. If you have any name ideas, please send them my way.

2108
03:24:06,740 --> 03:24:10,820
What have you sent her so far? I have a cup you don't want to say before you?

2109
03:24:10,860 --> 03:24:15,400
Yes. How long have you been associated with partnership Douglas County?

2110
03:24:15,880 --> 03:24:19,540
So I've been with partnership Douglas County actually just hit my 10 year anniversary.

2111
03:24:19,820 --> 03:24:23,980
I've been the executive director for four years. So I started when I was 17 years old.

2112
03:24:23,980 --> 03:24:27,240
was going to win your 10. And I, I was the youngest

2113
03:24:27,240 --> 03:24:29,480
become executive director of a non-profit in Nevada,

2114
03:24:29,720 --> 03:24:36,160
age 23. Thank you. Thank you. And the other question is,

2115
03:24:36,420 --> 03:24:39,500
was there any kind of transition from our prior

2116
03:24:39,500 --> 03:24:44,540
Carson City partnership or is that just like evaporated in? Correct.

2117
03:24:44,780 --> 03:24:47,020
And there was no transition after they closed their

2118
03:24:47,020 --> 03:24:51,420
organization. So full transparency, I was actually funded as a

2119
03:24:51,420 --> 03:24:58,460
to serve intremly until partnership Carson City had kind of made a decision on what was going to happen with their organization.

2120
03:24:59,440 --> 03:24:59,980
I found out.

2121
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:08,440
Pretty, like close to June 30th, that they were closing their doors, effective immediately, and the state transition to all services to meet July 1st.

2122
03:25:08,500 --> 03:25:14,740
I have many partners here. I've worked with the fact that we worked with you before Dr. Lyons through partnership Douglas County.

2123
03:25:15,200 --> 03:25:21,540
And so I've been working with many nonprofits and partners here to figure out what used to be provided and what is missing within the community.

2124
03:25:22,520 --> 03:25:27,420
So, just to speak their offices are closed, I have no access to any of their prior information.

2125
03:25:27,420 --> 03:25:35,440
Okay, and lastly, I forget the name of the program that the hospital is providing to youth

2126
03:25:35,440 --> 03:25:42,540
in the area, but are you in a position to have any collaborative efforts with them?

2127
03:25:42,980 --> 03:25:48,260
Yes, I actually have been working with Megan Martinez from Behavioral Hope and Melissa Elgis,

2128
03:25:48,540 --> 03:25:51,360
who is part of the hospital as well for their vehicles to change.

2129
03:25:51,360 --> 03:26:01,380
I'm also connected with them for Mallory, they have graciously offered me a meeting or a office space there to place my new Carson City staff that I am hopefully hiring today.

2130
03:26:01,720 --> 03:26:03,100
I have an interview this afternoon.

2131
03:26:03,680 --> 03:26:05,500
I've met with several different nonprofits.

2132
03:26:06,460 --> 03:26:10,040
If there's anyone who has not been in contact with me, I'm happy to connect.

2133
03:26:10,480 --> 03:26:15,600
I live in Carson City, I'm a sixth generation of Adon, so I'm proud to continue to serve our community.

2134
03:26:15,600 --> 03:26:22,180
great got me beat it for are there any other questions or comments? I'll just

2135
03:26:22,180 --> 03:26:28,200
so I don't know. I like be a connection it's all about resourcing and

2136
03:26:28,200 --> 03:26:33,740
bringing people together so invite everyone to be a connection to solve this

2137
03:26:33,740 --> 03:26:40,840
problem. That was kind of my thinking. Let's all get together and help our kids

2138
03:26:40,840 --> 03:26:41,600
Yeah.

2139
03:26:41,680 --> 03:26:42,840
If you adults along the way.

2140
03:26:42,840 --> 03:26:43,820
There's a roll off the tongue.

2141
03:26:44,000 --> 03:26:44,360
Sorry.

2142
03:26:44,600 --> 03:26:45,340
Just as an action.

2143
03:26:45,840 --> 03:26:46,000
Okay.

2144
03:26:46,280 --> 03:26:46,520
Keep them.

2145
03:26:46,740 --> 03:26:47,160
I'm going to put one.

2146
03:26:48,040 --> 03:26:49,080
Oh, I can.

2147
03:26:49,500 --> 03:26:49,800
Yeah.

2148
03:26:49,900 --> 03:26:50,400
Put it around.

2149
03:26:50,660 --> 03:26:51,780
That might be better.

2150
03:26:52,000 --> 03:26:52,400
And it might be better.

2151
03:26:52,400 --> 03:26:56,300
If I can add the superintendent did said me one name in its capital city partnership.

2152
03:26:56,720 --> 03:27:00,000
So that is another one that has been thrown out for consideration.

2153
03:27:00,900 --> 03:27:00,980
Yeah.

2154
03:27:01,380 --> 03:27:01,560
Thank you.

2155
03:27:01,560 --> 03:27:02,660
Have fun with it.

2156
03:27:04,220 --> 03:27:04,480
Great.

2157
03:27:04,660 --> 03:27:04,860
Awesome.

2158
03:27:05,000 --> 03:27:06,100
Thank you all for your time.

2159
03:27:12,500 --> 03:27:23,500
then moving on to item 23B, which is the health officer report, and I would just have a few things to point out.

2160
03:27:25,240 --> 03:27:34,540
And mosquitoes, CDC says that the deadliest animal on earth, y'all know why.

2161
03:27:35,680 --> 03:27:43,560
Malaria, yes, and for our area west style, although we don't necessarily consider that

2162
03:27:43,560 --> 03:27:50,840
as deadly as Malaria, but Zika and also viral, insephalitis, where you get a viral infection

2163
03:27:51,780 --> 03:28:01,780
and it infects the membranes or infects the brain and serious consequences.

2164
03:28:01,780 --> 03:28:21,700
And then pointing out that public trust has dropped quite a bit in the CDC, but local public health agencies, mainly the Board of Health and Carson City Health and Human Services, still have the highest level of confidence among the public.

2165
03:28:21,700 --> 03:28:32,080
So local when there's a face associated with the information being provided, that has a great deal more benefit.

2166
03:28:32,980 --> 03:28:42,880
I'm concerned about the work requirements for our Medicaid population and approximately 23% of Nevadans are enrolled in Medicaid.

2167
03:28:42,880 --> 03:28:48,500
is my understanding that the state has already put out information to those in

2168
03:28:48,500 --> 03:28:56,240
rollies that they'll need to do the work requirements, but, and that yeah. So we're

2169
03:28:56,240 --> 03:29:00,940
going to see problems with that in terms of people losing their coverage.

2170
03:29:06,110 --> 03:29:07,190
And the

2171
03:29:07,190 --> 03:29:20,010
under Nevada, the ranking from the 2026 Kids Count Data Report. One of the things that they say that we need is a early childhood development screening.

2172
03:29:20,570 --> 03:29:34,070
And I want to point out that our clinic did institute that in the last year or so, they had been doing it and had fallen to the wayside, but the clinic is doing that again now.

2173
03:29:34,070 --> 03:29:39,810
with a well child checks and

2174
03:29:46,600 --> 03:29:51,740
that Carson Tahoe has received a grant of nearly three million

2175
03:29:51,740 --> 03:29:59,920
dollars to start a family medicine, most important medicine residency program.

2176
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:08,260
And what we know is that when we train, educate and provide a residency programs for physicians,

2177
03:30:08,360 --> 03:30:14,380
we're much more likely to retain them in the communities in which they were trained. So hopefully

2178
03:30:14,380 --> 03:30:20,780
that will be a pipeline for primary care here in the Carson and try county, excuse me,

2179
03:30:20,780 --> 03:30:31,200
county area as primary care is number one health is primary. So that is very good news. And then

2180
03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:37,220
wanted to point out that about overdose deaths in Nevada have not declined to the same degree

2181
03:30:37,220 --> 03:30:42,300
that they have nationally, hopefully you'll all be helping with that in the prevention aspect

2182
03:30:43,380 --> 03:30:50,760
and that we have a tremendous amount of mixed use opioids as well as math and vitamins and just

2183
03:30:50,760 --> 03:31:00,120
to remind everyone that we have these telehealth outreaches to adults in no-down teenagers as well,

2184
03:31:00,580 --> 03:31:08,520
about being treated for things like ADHD, adult attention deficit disorder, and most often those

2185
03:31:08,520 --> 03:31:14,340
are endphetamines that are being provided through those telehealth organizations and that's going

2186
03:31:14,340 --> 03:31:19,460
to be a real problem going forward in terms of the number of people that then are going to be

2187
03:31:19,460 --> 03:31:26,220
dictated to M. Fedemines and accessing that cheap with math.

2188
03:31:28,660 --> 03:31:34,300
And we're going to have a lengthy report today from our Epidivision

2189
03:31:34,300 --> 03:31:37,720
regarding seasonal respiratory pathogens,

2190
03:31:38,400 --> 03:31:42,240
of which whatever I have is not one of them, thank you.

2191
03:31:42,240 --> 03:31:52,340
But that the important thing pointed out by this state health officer is that even though

2192
03:31:52,340 --> 03:32:01,500
the vaccine this past season was not right on for the virus that was spreading, it did still show

2193
03:32:01,500 --> 03:32:07,580
significant benefit in preventing hospitalizations and medical visits.

2194
03:32:07,580 --> 03:32:10,720
And so it's worthwhile, a lot of people are like,

2195
03:32:11,060 --> 03:32:11,800
oh, why get it?

2196
03:32:11,860 --> 03:32:13,380
You know, it's not even at the target.

2197
03:32:14,060 --> 03:32:16,000
Well, there is some crossover benefits,

2198
03:32:16,420 --> 03:32:20,240
so it's still worth about to have your flu vaccines.

2199
03:32:22,000 --> 03:32:25,460
I also want to point out that as of August 13th,

2200
03:32:25,740 --> 03:32:30,360
the State Department of Public

2201
03:32:31,200 --> 03:32:34,260
and Behavioral Health achieved their

2202
03:32:35,080 --> 03:32:40,800
public health accreditation board accreditation.

2203
03:32:41,540 --> 03:32:44,800
So we were the first Carson City Health and Human Services

2204
03:32:44,800 --> 03:32:49,740
was the first to be accredited nationally in Nevada,

2205
03:32:50,380 --> 03:32:52,860
but now the state is also being accredited.

2206
03:32:56,790 --> 03:33:01,330
And lastly, these public handouts relative

2207
03:33:01,330 --> 03:33:03,390
to things that are important to know.

2208
03:33:03,390 --> 03:33:10,690
seemed to come late. I got to plan for December now. But now that it's starting to get

2209
03:33:10,690 --> 03:33:16,630
cool, hopefully you don't have to worry about heat-related illnesses. But this is a very informative

2210
03:33:17,750 --> 03:33:25,750
and out about what kind of things to be aware of. In that regard, fans are very important. So

2211
03:33:25,750 --> 03:33:30,690
every summer we see organizations trying to get fans out to people that don't have air conditioning

2212
03:33:31,530 --> 03:33:42,490
and if one has the symptoms to get wet, if you're not sweating and use a fan, use a

2213
03:33:42,490 --> 03:33:48,330
breeze and to now the recommendation is not just cold water but to actually go to

2214
03:33:48,330 --> 03:33:58,050
ice if you have someone who's passed out. So that would conclude if there's any

2215
03:33:58,050 --> 03:33:59,350
questions or comments?

2216
03:34:02,370 --> 03:34:11,310
Great. Overwhelmed y'all. Okay, good. Going on, so just, it would ask for, oh, that's

2217
03:34:11,310 --> 03:34:21,310
discussion only. Okay, good. And then to turn to 23C, discussion only, and that is the staff report

2218
03:34:21,310 --> 03:34:28,830
from Jeannie Freeman, our director of the Carson City Health and Human Services. Good afternoon,

2219
03:34:28,830 --> 03:34:33,190
chair lions and members of the board. I hear to give you Gini Freeman for the record,

2220
03:34:33,410 --> 03:34:37,170
hear to give you the director's report for the September Board of Health, Mia,

2221
03:34:37,310 --> 03:34:41,590
can't believe we're already in September. Next time you see me, we'll be December.

2222
03:34:42,890 --> 03:34:47,730
So just wanted to give you just highlight a few of the biggest things that we have going on.

2223
03:34:47,950 --> 03:34:51,730
I always like to start these with the highlights and the successes of what's happening in the

2224
03:34:51,730 --> 03:34:55,610
department. And as you read, there are a lot of really exciting things that are happening.

2225
03:34:55,610 --> 03:34:59,970
super proud of our staff as they continue to develop their expertise and

2226
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:20,620
We continue to show the importance of that education and making sure that we're on the cutting edge. So we had David Raul Santos who received his registered environmental health specialist certification from the state. And then we also had Caitlin and Nick who received the certified disease intervention credential and we have Caitlin in the background.

2227
03:35:22,380 --> 03:35:25,600
So super nice to see that they pursue this.

2228
03:35:25,600 --> 03:35:27,780
This isn't just a class that they take online.

2229
03:35:27,900 --> 03:35:30,340
This is something that they actually dedicate their time to.

2230
03:35:30,520 --> 03:35:32,340
And they have to pass this comprehensive exam.

2231
03:35:32,760 --> 03:35:34,820
And if any of you have done comprehensive exams,

2232
03:35:35,000 --> 03:35:37,640
which I know all of you have at some level within your profession,

2233
03:35:38,440 --> 03:35:39,440
they're not fine.

2234
03:35:39,700 --> 03:35:42,140
They're long and they're growing and to be able to complete that

2235
03:35:42,140 --> 03:35:46,740
and pass that on a national level is super great to celebrate.

2236
03:35:47,840 --> 03:35:49,900
We continue to be engaged locally and nationally.

2237
03:35:49,900 --> 03:35:56,740
you see that our deputy director is part of the NATO vaccine advisory group, so being part of

2238
03:35:56,740 --> 03:36:00,920
that national conversation relates to vaccines and what that looks like. We've had a lot of

2239
03:36:00,920 --> 03:36:05,620
transitions that are happening within our agency. One of the things that I wanted to highlight,

2240
03:36:05,720 --> 03:36:12,960
I know she's not here today, but our clinic services manager is retiring today. And so we have lost

2241
03:36:12,960 --> 03:36:18,820
another great one but to a great next step in life and to be able to celebrate and enjoy the time

2242
03:36:18,820 --> 03:36:24,320
her grandchildren is important. So we will miss Tony Orr and but she has made some great

2243
03:36:25,160 --> 03:36:29,100
contributions to our agency and so we're excited for her and her next steps.

2244
03:36:31,340 --> 03:36:36,060
Just a few things that were also there. I know they jump back at all our emergency manager has said

2245
03:36:36,060 --> 03:36:41,320
this before an aborted of supervisors meeting but we are did we are in preparedness month the month of September

2246
03:36:42,000 --> 03:36:47,540
and we're doing the preparedness month collaboration ready set go and then adding the recovery piece

2247
03:36:47,540 --> 03:36:51,460
which is often much longer than the response in and of itself.

2248
03:36:52,060 --> 03:36:57,700
And the month will culminate on September 30th at the community center here from 2 to 5 p.m.

2249
03:36:58,300 --> 03:37:03,020
And we opportunity for the public to interact with a variety of vendors to learn how they can take care of themselves.

2250
03:37:03,400 --> 03:37:06,360
Because they're going to have to be able to take care of themselves for a period of time.

2251
03:37:06,520 --> 03:37:14,280
We are not going to be able to get to everybody in that short 3, 4, 5 day window of time.

2252
03:37:14,280 --> 03:37:22,440
So the first center families are going to have the opportunity to begin their go kit and have some different tools that they're going to get as they visit the different tables within the fair.

2253
03:37:23,320 --> 03:37:40,680
As we do each year, we've been partnering with Carson city school district for the flu vaccinations and then we'll do some community events it's listed there in the report that you'll be able to find us in the community on September 30, which will be at the preparedness fair, so we're giving an opportunity for public to get their flu vaccines if they so choose.

2254
03:37:40,680 --> 03:37:50,820
And then also October 12th will be at the senior center for period of time for which anybody can come to that event and get their flu shot at the senior center doesn't just have to be our seniors.

2255
03:37:51,580 --> 03:37:55,780
And then we also have our walk in clinic on Thursdays every day every Thursday at the health department.

2256
03:37:58,400 --> 03:38:05,280
One is to be sure we gave you a clinic activity because I know that about a year and a half ago we started talking about how our numbers that the clinic were declining.

2257
03:38:05,280 --> 03:38:10,660
We're seeing fewer patients and as you read in the report, we're starting to see that those numbers are rebounding.

2258
03:38:11,440 --> 03:38:14,940
So we're getting more of those patients coming back into the clinic.

2259
03:38:15,280 --> 03:38:17,120
We provide a variety of resources.

2260
03:38:18,100 --> 03:38:24,360
Everything from birth control and STI testing and treatment to the vaccines that are available through the vaccine for children,

2261
03:38:24,620 --> 03:38:29,000
and also what we call the 317 program, which is for those who are uninsured or underinsured.

2262
03:38:29,720 --> 03:38:33,180
But our numbers continue to rebound since the pandemic.

2263
03:38:33,180 --> 03:38:35,860
So during the pandemic, a lot of those numbers declined.

2264
03:38:36,680 --> 03:38:44,740
We are seeing that close to 90% of our clients that are coming into the clinic are at 250% or more below the federal poverty level.

2265
03:38:45,260 --> 03:38:50,280
So the services that we provide at the clinic are actually incredibly beneficial for our patients.

2266
03:38:51,320 --> 03:38:53,980
And in Dr. Lyon's mentioned, we are doing additional services.

2267
03:38:54,200 --> 03:38:56,280
We started back doing the well child visits.

2268
03:38:56,560 --> 03:39:00,080
We collaborate with our WIC program, our women and infants and children program,

2269
03:39:00,080 --> 03:39:02,920
in human services to be able to do some of those well-child visits.

2270
03:39:02,980 --> 03:39:05,180
They're meant for those who don't have a primary care provider,

2271
03:39:05,660 --> 03:39:08,400
but it gives us some preliminary screenings in place

2272
03:39:08,400 --> 03:39:11,540
so that we can identify something early

2273
03:39:11,540 --> 03:39:15,060
and then we can make some referrals out for those services

2274
03:39:15,060 --> 03:39:17,200
that are also available in the community.

2275
03:39:17,520 --> 03:39:18,580
And then we do TV testing.

2276
03:39:19,020 --> 03:39:20,300
I think a lot of people don't know who's who's

2277
03:39:20,300 --> 03:39:21,960
no, that we do that for regular testing.

2278
03:39:22,420 --> 03:39:26,040
Had a phone call yesterday, I was able to say that we are available to do that,

2279
03:39:26,160 --> 03:39:27,180
which is important.

2280
03:39:29,610 --> 03:39:37,550
I'm going to leave you with that because you read the report. I know you didn't, because it's a fantastic report every time. So I'm open for questions.

2281
03:39:39,350 --> 03:39:42,570
I appreciate your humility there.

2282
03:39:42,850 --> 03:39:45,990
The staff do it. I just get to be the one who gets to.

2283
03:39:45,990 --> 03:39:55,590
It's a very good report. I appreciate it. I wanted to point out one thing on page seven and thank Tony or our retiring clinic service manager.

2284
03:39:55,590 --> 03:39:59,970
for the marked increase in our ability to screen force.

2285
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:00,200
Modorship view of 2keeper30.

2286
03:40:00,200 --> 03:40:09,220
Biffless Nevada ranks right up therefore in the number of slipl labor cases, unfortunately, ranks very high in � cham Ça,

2287
03:40:10,200 --> 03:40:16,900
which means the fetus unborn gets infected before birth.

2288
03:40:17,880 --> 03:40:25,840
And we went from averaging about 50 tests a year because the people had to go off to the lab and be

2289
03:40:27,240 --> 03:40:32,820
to now 800, 400, so eight times what we were doing before,

2290
03:40:33,260 --> 03:40:36,340
because we now have a point of care test,

2291
03:40:36,980 --> 03:40:39,640
so it's done right in the clinic.

2292
03:40:39,920 --> 03:40:41,820
It's offered in it's done right there.

2293
03:40:42,480 --> 03:40:46,780
And then one other thing about the whale child checks,

2294
03:40:48,020 --> 03:40:49,860
is that it's not just about identifying

2295
03:40:49,860 --> 03:40:53,160
something that we can prevent, you know,

2296
03:40:53,160 --> 03:40:55,820
prevention aspect of it and thus refer.

2297
03:40:56,200 --> 03:41:00,020
It's a lot about patient education and parent education

2298
03:41:00,720 --> 03:41:03,940
that's provided it all those different level of childhood

2299
03:41:03,940 --> 03:41:04,700
visits.

2300
03:41:05,120 --> 03:41:08,800
Are you reading to your child, even though before they're

2301
03:41:08,800 --> 03:41:10,780
pre-verbal, that kind of thing.

2302
03:41:11,040 --> 03:41:12,860
That makes a huge difference.

2303
03:41:13,240 --> 03:41:17,320
Those parent education aspects of those well-child visits.

2304
03:41:19,140 --> 03:41:21,300
So anything else, yes, do you know me?

2305
03:41:21,300 --> 03:41:29,520
Jamie, I do have a question on that, FPL graph, do you just track at 250 or do you

2306
03:41:29,520 --> 03:41:33,100
layer it? I mean, do you have all of that, all of the info?

2307
03:41:33,860 --> 03:41:35,560
Jamie Feber for the record. Thank you for the question.

2308
03:41:36,380 --> 03:41:39,540
We don't just track at that point. We layer it. We have citing if you scale.

2309
03:41:39,680 --> 03:41:42,020
We do ask a variety of different questions that are built into that.

2310
03:41:42,140 --> 03:41:45,880
We could do share that with me just that info, not now when you get a chance.

2311
03:41:45,880 --> 03:41:46,220
Absolutely.

2312
03:41:47,860 --> 03:41:49,600
And I assume you track location.

2313
03:41:50,080 --> 03:41:58,220
I'm curious to know the residents of the people we serve by percentage.

2314
03:41:58,500 --> 03:41:59,100
People can get that for me.

2315
03:41:59,100 --> 03:41:59,700
By location.

2316
03:42:00,320 --> 03:42:04,420
And I would be really interested in maybe seeing that routinely with this information.

2317
03:42:06,020 --> 03:42:07,060
I think it's important to know.

2318
03:42:07,060 --> 03:42:11,280
I know we serve the Quad County because you do get compensation from the state for

2319
03:42:11,280 --> 03:42:13,460
doing that or some agreements that we have with some of the counties.

2320
03:42:13,460 --> 03:42:20,340
I just I'm curious what you know percentage of that is because I know we're our community is a medical hub really.

2321
03:42:20,960 --> 03:42:23,440
And you know the hospital sort of drives that.

2322
03:42:24,220 --> 03:42:31,680
So I just curious is just one more little statistic that I think helps us understand where and who we're providing services to.

2323
03:42:31,800 --> 03:42:33,500
So I'd be interested in that.

2324
03:42:33,760 --> 03:42:43,120
So just to clarify, I want to make sure I'll get you the information related to the 250 federal poverty level and then on a regular basis you would like to see the information about who we're serving.

2325
03:42:43,120 --> 03:42:47,700
and their residents. Yeah, just waiting for presenting this, maybe just split that out. Sure,

2326
03:42:47,900 --> 03:42:51,720
there's no anything extra. Sounds good. Thank you. I mean, I know it's extra, but

2327
03:42:51,720 --> 03:42:52,940
happy to do it. Thank you.

2328
03:42:58,280 --> 03:43:06,460
Great. Thank you, Gini. Moving on then to 23D for discussion and this is

2329
03:43:07,840 --> 03:43:13,920
Rachel's treatments report, regarding epidemiology work at the department.

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03:43:21,320 --> 03:43:22,080
Good afternoon, Rachel

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03:43:22,080 --> 03:43:27,200
freshman for the record. I am the epidemiology and public health preparedness division manager at

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03:43:27,200 --> 03:43:33,300
Carson City Health and Human Services. I have had the wonderful opportunity to step into this role in

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03:43:33,300 --> 03:43:37,860
the last couple of months, but I'm excited to share this presentation that I was able to complete

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03:43:37,860 --> 03:43:44,020
in my epidemiologist role. Before getting started, I wanted to give a couple of shout outs and

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03:43:44,020 --> 03:43:50,280
highlights to my team. I'm very excited. We had just hired in our epidemiologist position,

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03:43:50,280 --> 03:43:55,300
Melanie Sandquist. She's a couple of rows behind me so she's getting trained and getting

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03:43:55,300 --> 03:44:00,360
going and then also wanted to highlight my public health investigators, Nick and Caitlin,

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03:44:00,360 --> 03:44:04,660
without the work that they do every day. I wouldn't be able to compile this information and

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03:44:04,660 --> 03:44:10,060
describe the health of our community for you all. So what I will be doing today is providing an overview

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03:44:10,060 --> 03:44:17,460
of the 2025 26 Carson City influenza season. In addition to some after-season strategies and

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03:44:17,460 --> 03:44:23,340
as we are quickly approaching this next respiratory season which actually begins in less than a month.

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03:44:29,920 --> 03:44:35,100
So, like I said, this report will be focusing on influenza-like illness.

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03:44:35,160 --> 03:44:39,100
I will be referring to this as ILI and confirmed influenza diagnoses.

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03:44:39,880 --> 03:44:44,340
So, what ILI encompasses are local emergency department and urgent care visits,

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03:44:44,560 --> 03:44:50,020
where someone presents with a respiratory infection with a fever, cough, and or sore throat,

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03:44:50,020 --> 03:44:53,600
and they've had a symptom onset within the last 10 days.

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03:44:54,380 --> 03:44:55,980
In addition to these overall trends,

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03:44:56,080 --> 03:44:58,100
I'll also highlight some age-specific impacts

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03:44:58,100 --> 03:44:59,800
and severe flu outcomes.

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03:45:00,240 --> 03:45:19,660
Some data sources utilize for this report includes essence, our syndromic surveillance system platform, where local facilities report ISI, Nevada Epitrax, our state surveillance system, where we receive electronic laboratory results, and also the Nevada State Demographer, where we receive population estimates for carcin city by year.

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03:45:21,870 --> 03:45:27,450
So, nationally, the 25 to 26 season was classified as moderate severity by CDC.

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03:45:27,670 --> 03:45:32,950
If you all remember, this last season was our first severe flu season that we had had since

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03:45:32,950 --> 03:45:34,490
2017 to 2018.

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03:45:35,410 --> 03:45:38,110
So, we did see a little bit of a less severe season.

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03:45:38,550 --> 03:45:43,550
This is based on the proportion of ILI visits to overall emergency department and urgent care

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03:45:43,550 --> 03:45:47,770
visits, flu associated hospitalizations, and flu related deaths.

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03:45:47,770 --> 03:46:04,110
A newly-emerged variant of influenza A referred to a subclaimed K which is this variant that was mentioned that was not included in this last season's flu vaccine did contribute to a large increase in illness and hospitalizations in late December to early January.

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03:46:05,050 --> 03:46:11,490
This led to hospitalizations nearly doubling during this time, but these quickly decreased and remained low for the rest of the season.

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03:46:12,290 --> 03:46:18,450
Locally, Carson City saw elevated ILI activity during the season with visits exceeding expected trends.

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03:46:19,210 --> 03:46:26,660
Our younger age groups, those age 0 to 4 and 5 to 24 years old, made up the highest proportion of diagnosed influenza cases,

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03:46:27,710 --> 03:46:33,370
while our older adults, those 65 and up accounted for the most influenza associated hospitalizations.

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03:46:36,050 --> 03:46:41,090
As I highlighted before, here's the definition of ILI again for you all.

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03:46:41,090 --> 03:46:50,370
These visits are reported for Carson City based on the patient's county of resident at the time that they are seen at an emergency department or urgent care.

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03:46:50,630 --> 03:46:54,950
So that's how we engage that being reflective of Carson City.

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03:46:55,990 --> 03:47:07,790
As shown in figure one on the screen, the ILI rate for Carson City shown in the dark blue color consistently exceeded both the expected rate shown in gray and the four year average shown in light blue.

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03:47:07,790 --> 03:47:15,270
This season's peak occurred during week 52 or around the end of December with 10.3 ILI visits for 10,000 population.

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03:47:15,990 --> 03:47:21,810
This surpassed the expected rate for your average in the Nevada ILI rate, which I have here shown in orange.

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03:47:22,750 --> 03:47:33,450
This was similar to national trends where Carson City saw a large increase in ILI at the end of 2025 with rates returning to lower than expected levels for the remainder of the season.

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03:47:33,450 --> 03:47:36,050
this being from the January 2 May.

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03:47:38,300 --> 03:47:41,600
Really quickly, I wanted to make a verbal correction to this slide.

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03:47:41,600 --> 03:47:47,520
This is located in your packet on page 200 and 2. This first bullet point has an error in

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03:47:47,520 --> 03:47:53,100
it should state 2025 to 2026. I apologize for that on your end.

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03:47:53,980 --> 03:47:59,360
As shown in a figure 2, this season had the highest weekly total of ioli, shown in dark blue,

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03:47:59,680 --> 03:48:04,660
compared to the prior four influenza seasons. However, this season had the second lowest

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03:48:04,660 --> 03:48:11,340
cumulative total, suggesting mild flu activity outside of the weeks that saw higher activity.

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03:48:12,380 --> 03:48:18,140
Across the season, an average of 63 percent of weekly ILI visits were identified in emergency

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03:48:18,140 --> 03:48:22,970
care settings, representing more than six out of every 10 ILI visits each week.

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03:48:23,860 --> 03:48:28,820
During periods of high respiratory activity, an increased demand for emergency care can place

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03:48:28,820 --> 03:48:32,790
an additional strain on our health care systems. This is something to be a little bit mindful about.

2380
03:48:32,790 --> 03:48:36,890
So, before you go on, can I, well, that one works too.

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It's a very narrow period and a very interesting peak, which you just commented on in terms

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03:48:43,070 --> 03:48:50,690
of challenging healthcare centers to treat that number of people in such a small amount of

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03:48:50,690 --> 03:48:51,190
time.

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03:48:52,210 --> 03:48:59,650
Did you have any analysis or thoughts or opinions on, I mean, it's one of the more, it's actually

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03:48:59,650 --> 03:49:00,750
the most concentrated.

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03:49:01,450 --> 03:49:07,050
If you have an idea as to why that happened, such a short period of time, I mean, it's right

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03:49:07,050 --> 03:49:12,710
at the end of the year, so family gathering is always an issue, but that happens every

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03:49:12,710 --> 03:49:13,050
year.

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03:49:14,350 --> 03:49:18,090
So, I'm just curious, maybe the numbers in the past years because of COVID and isolation

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03:49:18,090 --> 03:49:24,990
sort of broaden that base out, but it was a question I had because it just seemed unusually

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03:49:25,630 --> 03:49:27,230
dense over a short period of time.

2392
03:49:28,050 --> 03:49:28,210
Yes.

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03:49:28,710 --> 03:49:29,730
Rachel freshman for the record.

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03:49:29,730 --> 03:49:41,970
Thank you for that question. I have a couple of thoughts. I could also, you know, these are just kind of some some assumptions that I'm making based on other trends that we saw nationwide.

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03:49:43,130 --> 03:49:55,010
So the variant that I mentioned before that was the subclaimed K variant for influenza A. We did see that traveling a lot through Europe earlier in the season.

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03:49:55,010 --> 03:49:59,970
And then when it kind of started hitting the United States, we were seen in a lot of...

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03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:06,480
The surrounding states, large increases of IOI and it just kind of coming, well, I'm so sorry.

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03:50:06,920 --> 03:50:11,200
Talking with my hands. It was just kind of having an R-way, I'm sorry.

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03:50:13,720 --> 03:50:29,380
I'm not used to speaking to you, Mike. So we were able to see that kind of coming R-way and what we're kind of hypothesizing is that we saw a large increase in just transmission of this specific variant.

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03:50:29,380 --> 03:50:53,200
Um, some preliminary information we had about it was that it was a lot more transmissible, and so, you know, it may have just exacerbated what we usually see during around that time that we have, um, you know, typical family gatherings. There's a lot of special events going on, people are getting out and about, but they're also inside. And that's a lot easier for our respiratory illnesses to spread more easily between people. So.

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03:50:53,200 --> 03:50:54,980
Well, it's kind of always the case, too.

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03:50:55,320 --> 03:50:58,560
So, I mean, the last year wasn't the only year

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03:50:58,560 --> 03:51:00,120
where people were concentrated inside

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03:51:00,120 --> 03:51:01,080
over a short period of time.

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03:51:01,700 --> 03:51:04,720
But the other question that just came to mind is,

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I know back during COVID, in the later parts of COVID,

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03:51:11,000 --> 03:51:12,880
late 2020, maybe early in the 21,

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03:51:13,480 --> 03:51:16,820
the city was doing testing of effluent.

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03:51:18,240 --> 03:51:20,960
To sort of monitor progress, peaks, valleys

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03:51:20,960 --> 03:51:27,840
of communicable diseases such as that, or viruses. Do you know if the city is still doing that?

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03:51:27,860 --> 03:51:32,090
Do you have any idea? Do you have any idea? And are you getting that information? Do you get that?

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03:51:37,350 --> 03:51:42,470
Gene Farmer the record. Yes, the city is still testing. They do a weekly test and it goes to the

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03:51:42,470 --> 03:51:47,690
lab and they take a look at that. They look at a variety of different communicable diseases.

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03:51:47,690 --> 03:51:54,650
They're looking for measles, COVID, influenza. The challenge comes is that probably by the time

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03:51:54,650 --> 03:51:58,250
that we get the results, we're already seeing the spike in the health care system.

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03:51:58,270 --> 03:52:00,990
So you find out about it other ways.

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03:52:03,890 --> 03:52:06,570
What's the travel time on sewage curve?

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03:52:06,910 --> 03:52:07,190
No.

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There's a former deputy.

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03:52:08,750 --> 03:52:10,770
I mean, it's not days, right?

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03:52:12,610 --> 03:52:13,090
It's.

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03:52:13,650 --> 03:52:14,130
It's.

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03:52:15,430 --> 03:52:15,870
Okay.

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03:52:16,110 --> 03:52:20,430
I mean, if you're only testing once a week, I guess that really is just sort of a benchmark.

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03:52:20,730 --> 03:52:21,590
It can't be much more.

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03:52:21,590 --> 03:52:24,850
you'd almost have to test daily for it to have any meaning.

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03:52:24,970 --> 03:52:25,370
Correct.

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03:52:25,810 --> 03:52:29,070
I guess it's just good to know that that resource is there

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03:52:29,070 --> 03:52:32,410
so that if we're starting to see a spike

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03:52:32,410 --> 03:52:36,350
that you could re-engage it at a more frequent testing

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03:52:36,350 --> 03:52:40,690
interval to help track the potential severity.

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03:52:41,370 --> 03:52:43,690
Yes, we currently receive a very small sub-grant

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03:52:43,690 --> 03:52:46,550
from the state in order to be able to do wastewater surveillance,

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03:52:46,910 --> 03:52:49,950
associated, and but it's more about reporting it to the state

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03:52:49,950 --> 03:52:56,390
them to be able to look at overall surveillance, but it's not as robust of a process as we see

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03:52:56,390 --> 03:53:02,690
down in Southern Nevada. And what they've been doing, our water system, our sewer system is

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03:53:04,210 --> 03:53:09,750
combined. Like, it's all there. It's not as unique as we see in Southern Nevada where they can identify

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03:53:09,750 --> 03:53:14,030
specific neighborhoods that are tied to certain treatment plants and so forth. Yeah, I mean, I get

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03:53:14,030 --> 03:53:19,310
I don't think for us it's that big a deal to know what street it came from, right?

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03:53:19,470 --> 03:53:25,650
I mean, I think the idea is to be able to, I think if we're seeing, if we get another

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03:53:25,650 --> 03:53:35,970
pandemic or even epidemic, it might be a step we could take to help ramp up or at least plan

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03:53:35,970 --> 03:53:36,850
to ramp up.

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03:53:37,110 --> 03:53:40,610
I mean, I think it could be a planning tool, I guess it's just what I'm saying, and

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03:53:40,610 --> 03:53:43,910
it's nice to know that the ability is there because if we're doing it once a week,

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03:53:43,910 --> 03:53:48,070
It's just a matter of frequency them to make that repetitive, right?

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03:53:48,090 --> 03:53:48,530
Correct.

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03:53:48,910 --> 03:53:52,930
I would like you to take that back out of the universe, though, and not speak that.

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03:53:53,070 --> 03:53:54,310
I said, yes.

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03:53:54,550 --> 03:53:55,150
I said, yes.

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03:53:55,330 --> 03:53:55,750
Thank you.

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03:53:55,910 --> 03:53:56,710
I said, isn't it?

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03:53:56,710 --> 03:53:58,450
Our whole world is planning for gifts.

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03:53:59,450 --> 03:54:00,030
It is September.

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03:54:00,230 --> 03:54:01,230
It is the if month.

2455
03:54:01,370 --> 03:54:02,510
It is the if month.

2456
03:54:02,530 --> 03:54:03,870
And what could happen month?

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03:54:04,750 --> 03:54:08,530
You're talking me out of of what you should be promoting.

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03:54:08,530 --> 03:54:16,730
So I would be going out one thing about wastewater is that we are shedding virus frequently

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03:54:16,730 --> 03:54:20,730
with a lot of these respiratory illnesses before we have symptoms.

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03:54:21,830 --> 03:54:26,390
So I think there's still some value, even though it's being done once a week, that it could

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03:54:26,390 --> 03:54:34,710
give you a heads up before you're seeing it in the emergency room.

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03:54:34,710 --> 03:54:40,070
I mean, some serious viruses are 14, 7, 10, 14 to incubation periods, right?

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03:54:40,570 --> 03:54:43,970
So, well, yeah, incubation period in terms of when you, when you're, when you're

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03:54:43,970 --> 03:54:48,870
quote infectious, there's, it's usually a smaller period of time, but can be

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03:54:48,870 --> 03:54:50,990
before you have symptoms yourself.

2466
03:54:54,040 --> 03:54:55,860
Thank you.

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03:54:56,580 --> 03:54:56,800
Thank you.

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03:54:56,800 --> 03:54:57,580
Thank you for that.

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03:54:57,580 --> 03:54:58,760
Rachel freshman for the record.

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03:54:58,760 --> 03:54:59,980
in addition to the company.

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03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:12,420
I did want to highlight that we have been utilizing that information that we get from our wastewater surveillance, and that has been included in our weekly respiratory reports that we share two stakeholders in the community.

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03:55:13,300 --> 03:55:25,880
What we've been seeing there's been a lot of discussion on how in epidemiology we can use that to our favor and what exactly it's telling us, because there's a lot of different variables that go into that.

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03:55:25,880 --> 03:55:31,700
efficacy usually, you know, when you're also drawing those samples and what we can

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03:55:31,700 --> 03:55:37,440
lean from that information. And typically what we do see is that it kind of, I believe

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03:55:37,440 --> 03:55:42,800
the doctor lines had touched on this. It kind of precedes those surges that we see in

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03:55:42,800 --> 03:55:47,000
medical facilities so it can kind of be something that if we see very high levels of

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03:55:47,000 --> 03:55:51,560
something in the wastewater we can most likely assume that we may see an increase in

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03:55:51,560 --> 03:56:21,540
I alive visits in the next couple of weeks and touching on this graph again just as I had a little bit more time to think so as you can see with the trend from this last year how we had that really stark increase and then it dropped off really dramatically due to a very highly transmissible variant the ability for it to attack it in fact a lot of people at one time it's very

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03:56:21,540 --> 03:56:28,340
to have had such an impact on the population because people do have a level of immune response

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03:56:28,340 --> 03:56:32,820
to that afterward where they are protected for a certain amount of time, but I will say that

2481
03:56:32,820 --> 03:56:38,240
we see it where people can have multiple influenza A infections throughout the season or they

2482
03:56:38,240 --> 03:56:43,260
become infected with influenza A at the beginning and they get Type B later in the season.

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03:56:43,840 --> 03:56:48,140
So just to provide a little bit more background information on that is I continue to move through these

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03:56:48,140 --> 03:56:54,420
lines. When we're discussing confirmed influenza cases, these include individuals that had

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03:56:54,420 --> 03:57:02,500
either laboratory-based or rapid diagnostic testing. In Carson City, we had 955 confirmed influenza

2486
03:57:02,500 --> 03:57:07,140
diagnoses reported during this last season. Throughout the season, the most common influenza

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03:57:07,140 --> 03:57:13,260
variant was influenza A, not sub-type, which you can see in Figure 3 shown as the darker blue line.

2488
03:57:13,260 --> 03:57:20,140
This also coincides that seasonal peak that we had seen with ILI as well, and this occurred

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03:57:20,140 --> 03:57:25,580
in week 52 until late December and declined for the rest of the season with a small increase

2490
03:57:25,580 --> 03:57:28,080
around week five, which is early February.

2491
03:57:29,460 --> 03:57:34,860
Weekly influenza B cases shown by the purple line reached a peak of 38 cases during week five

2492
03:57:34,860 --> 03:57:40,060
in early February and decreased throughout the rest of the season. And this seasonal trend,

2493
03:57:40,060 --> 03:57:55,840
It seemed locally reflects typical distribution that we see during flu seasons, so type A usually is the more dominant in the late fall to early winter and type B usually appears later with a milder impact in late winter to early spring.

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03:57:59,050 --> 03:58:05,370
So, when we're talking about confirmed influenza cases, the burden of influenza vary greatly by age group.

2495
03:58:05,370 --> 03:58:11,130
Figure 4 on the screen shows age-specific rates, so this is the number of influenza cases per

2496
03:58:11,130 --> 03:58:16,330
age group population. So for example, if we're looking at zero to four, if we had 500 cases,

2497
03:58:16,450 --> 03:58:22,810
and then we had a population of 1,000, it would be 500 over 1,000 and then times the population.

2498
03:58:23,930 --> 03:58:29,290
So children aged zero to four years, shown by the green bar, had the highest age-specific influenza rate

2499
03:58:29,290 --> 03:58:36,830
of 440 cases per 10,000 population followed by individuals ages 5 to 24 shown in the orange bar

2500
03:58:36,830 --> 03:58:43,310
with 309 cases per 10,000 population. These elevated rates observed in these groups,

2501
03:58:43,350 --> 03:58:46,750
suggests they may be an important group for prevention and control efforts.

2502
03:58:47,050 --> 03:58:52,310
This can include influenza vaccination and infection prevention measures in both child care

2503
03:58:52,310 --> 03:58:57,650
settings and our schools. Higher rates among children and young adults may also contribute

2504
03:58:57,650 --> 03:59:02,790
to transmission within households and our broader community, including to individuals at increased

2505
03:59:02,790 --> 03:59:05,170
risk for influenza-associated complications.

2506
03:59:08,100 --> 03:59:10,060
When we're discussing severe flu outcomes,

2507
03:59:10,280 --> 03:59:16,540
this does include influenza-associated hospitalizations and deaths due to an influenza infection.

2508
03:59:17,500 --> 03:59:22,540
Hospitalized cases are defined as individuals receiving inpatient care for at least 24 hours

2509
03:59:22,540 --> 03:59:27,920
who have a positive test and are experiencing symptoms. Key information is collected to understand

2510
03:59:27,920 --> 03:59:33,440
factors that make contribute to their illness severity, including age, vaccination status, and underlying

2511
03:59:33,440 --> 03:59:39,360
medical clinicians. During this last season, there were 49 influenza-associated hospitalizations,

2512
03:59:39,680 --> 03:59:44,060
which was a significant decrease from the 119th week in the prior season.

2513
03:59:45,420 --> 03:59:50,220
Figure 5 on the screen displays the distribution of these hospitalizations throughout the season,

2514
03:59:50,520 --> 03:59:55,600
comparing the 25 to 26 seasons, shown in blue to the prior season, shown in purple.

2515
03:59:56,720 --> 03:59:59,960
hospitalizations peak during week 53 at the end of December.

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04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:05,800
Number, early January, with 14 hospitalizations and decreased remaining low throughout the rest of the season.

2517
04:00:08,930 --> 04:00:15,830
Typically, when we are looking at hospitalizations, the age groups that were most concerned about are young children and our older adults.

2518
04:00:16,490 --> 04:00:21,210
Figure 6 displays the distribution of these hospitalizations for the season by age group.

2519
04:00:21,210 --> 04:00:28,110
Shown in green, adult 65, and up accounted for nearly 6 out of every 10 hospitalizations.

2520
04:00:28,850 --> 04:00:37,370
These were lower in the younger age groups with only 4 out of every 10 when you combine the 0 to 4 and 5 to 24 year age groups.

2521
04:00:37,810 --> 04:00:45,990
Based on available data for these hospitalized patients, fewer than 2 out of every 10 had received a seasonal influenza vaccination prior to their illness onset.

2522
04:00:48,480 --> 04:00:54,720
There are additional risk factors that may predict more severe flu outcomes for individuals that become ill.

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04:00:55,100 --> 04:01:01,760
These can include but are not limited to chronic health conditions such as obesity, COPD, asthma, diabetes,

2524
04:01:02,300 --> 04:01:06,840
a weakened immune system or any medications that they take and also pregnancy.

2525
04:01:08,060 --> 04:01:13,860
More than 8 out of every 10 hospitalized patients reported at least one health condition that may have increased

2526
04:01:13,860 --> 04:01:16,400
their risk of severe outcomes due to influenza.

2527
04:01:16,980 --> 04:01:22,440
And this is shown in figure 7 where the underlying conditions are broken down by type among

2528
04:01:22,440 --> 04:01:28,840
hospitalized patients. I meant to include a little asterix at the bottom, which was in the report,

2529
04:01:29,220 --> 04:01:36,460
but the sum of these percentages may equal higher than 100% mostly because among those hospitalized

2530
04:01:36,460 --> 04:01:39,020
patients we had people reporting more than one condition.

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04:01:41,690 --> 04:01:43,590
And shown in grade nearly 7 out of every

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10 reported various conditions which were not captured by the specific reporting categories

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04:01:48,150 --> 04:01:54,070
and thus we classified those as having another condition. And among those hospitalized,

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we did have one in 10 individuals that unfortunately did pass away due to influenza.

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04:02:05,590 --> 04:02:11,450
And so looking ahead, considering these are sorry, some major takeaways for this season include

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04:02:11,450 --> 04:02:17,530
influenza activity increasing drastically in late 2025, but quickly decreasing throughout

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04:02:17,530 --> 04:02:23,430
rest of the season with only small increases being reported sporadically. Children and younger adults

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04:02:23,430 --> 04:02:28,210
had the highest rate of confirmed influenza, raising concerns about additional transmission in

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04:02:28,210 --> 04:02:33,370
school and child care settings. Hospitalizations were most common among older adults and

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04:02:33,370 --> 04:02:39,110
individuals with underlying health conditions. Our local activity mirage state and national trends

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04:02:39,110 --> 04:02:45,170
with elevated ioli and late 2025. And data from this last season highlights the importance of

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04:02:45,170 --> 04:02:49,610
preventive strategies and intervention ahead of the upcoming respiratory season.

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04:02:51,950 --> 04:02:56,110
Considering these main takeaways from the previous season, Carson City Health and Human Services,

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04:02:56,730 --> 04:03:02,490
we'll continue providing school-based influenza vaccination opportunities for the upcoming season.

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04:03:03,230 --> 04:03:08,150
This improves access among populations that consistently experience the highest age-specific

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04:03:08,150 --> 04:03:13,410
influenza rates and this supports efforts to reduce transmission within schools, households,

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04:03:13,410 --> 04:03:19,590
and the broader community. We will continue to prioritize outreach for influenza vaccination among

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04:03:19,590 --> 04:03:23,930
older adults and those with underlying health conditions as these groups remain the highest

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04:03:23,930 --> 04:03:30,970
for severe influenza illness and hospitalization. Additionally, also emphasizing the influenza

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04:03:30,970 --> 04:03:36,870
vaccination provides protection against hospitalization for healthy adults. We will collaborate

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04:03:36,870 --> 04:03:41,450
with health care facilities and laboratories to increase submission of specimens to laboratories

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04:03:41,450 --> 04:03:50,510
that perform sub-typing. This will help us improve surveillance of circulating strains and detect new influenza variants early that are in our community.

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04:03:52,270 --> 04:03:56,910
We will increase public communication messaging throughout the year to promote staying home when sick,

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04:03:57,330 --> 04:04:05,450
seeking care early for worsening symptoms and the option of obtaining a yearly influenza vaccination as a tool to reduce the risk of severe illness.

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04:04:06,110 --> 04:04:13,430
And lastly, we will develop messaging that clarifies when to seek emergency urgent or primary care to promote informed care seeking,

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04:04:14,070 --> 04:04:19,790
preserving that emergency department capacity, and ensuring timely care for patients with severe illness.

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04:04:22,650 --> 04:04:26,530
And with that being said, thank you again for the opportunity to be able to share this information with you all,

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04:04:26,530 --> 04:04:28,870
and I'd be happy to answer any other questions this time.

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04:04:31,500 --> 04:04:40,720
Thank you, Rachel. I really liked the more communication about when to stay home, what to do at home.

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04:04:40,800 --> 04:04:49,940
When to seek early care, which would be if you have a fever, or if you have any of those conditions that place you had increased risk,

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04:04:50,760 --> 04:04:58,700
and then developing the information about when you're sick, cover your cough, wear a mask,

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04:04:58,700 --> 04:04:59,980
So

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So those kind of outreach information to the public would be helpful.

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04:05:08,040 --> 04:05:10,360
Thank you. Anybody else with comments?

2565
04:05:12,220 --> 04:05:12,360
No?

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04:05:13,160 --> 04:05:13,780
Thank you.

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04:05:14,020 --> 04:05:15,600
See what science does for you?

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04:05:15,680 --> 04:05:17,120
Give to all kinds of graphs.

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04:05:28,780 --> 04:05:33,600
And now we'll hear in 23e for discussion.

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04:05:33,600 --> 04:05:43,580
this is Candace Harvey who is our manager for our environmental health division and I want to

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04:05:43,580 --> 04:05:49,780
say an advance. I really appreciated this report. It was very thorough in covering all the

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04:05:49,780 --> 04:05:53,540
different things that environmental health is doing.

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04:05:57,830 --> 04:05:59,450
My presentation says good morning but

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04:05:59,450 --> 04:06:04,530
good afternoon. Candace Harvey Environmental Health Manager at Carson City Health and Human Services

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04:06:04,530 --> 04:06:09,310
for the record. I first want to start my presentation by saying thank you for this opportunity

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04:06:09,310 --> 04:06:14,130
and thank you to Jeannie for allowing me to present environmental health activities in 2025.

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04:06:19,400 --> 04:06:23,800
So, the goal of the environmental health branch report was to provide a comprehensive overview

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04:06:23,800 --> 04:06:28,640
of what environmental health is and how carson city health and human services provides those services

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04:06:28,640 --> 04:06:34,080
to the community. The environmental health branch focuses on preventing harmful environmental

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04:06:34,080 --> 04:06:41,740
exposures where the community eats, lives, works, and plays. Environmental health is woven into

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04:06:41,740 --> 04:06:48,140
the fabric of the Carson City community by protecting Carson City families and visitors and interacting

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04:06:48,140 --> 04:06:54,820
with local businesses and operators and lastly helping homeowners and contractors build systems

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04:06:54,820 --> 04:07:02,700
to last. Environmental health partners with many governmental agencies, including Nevada Department

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04:07:02,700 --> 04:07:08,120
of agriculture, the newly established Nevada health authority, Nevada division of environmental

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04:07:08,120 --> 04:07:13,680
protection, Nevada division of water resources, and last but not least surrounding local health

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04:07:13,680 --> 04:07:14,080
jurisdictions.

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Those are external partners, but internally we have continuous teamwork with

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04:07:21,580 --> 04:07:26,940
all of our internal departments as well. This includes Carson City Community and Economic Development,

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04:07:27,980 --> 04:07:32,160
Carson City Public Works, Carson City Fire Department and Emergency Management,

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04:07:32,160 --> 04:07:34,860
and of course, Carson City Park's Rec and Open Space.

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04:07:35,880 --> 04:07:37,080
With the support from these partners,

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04:07:37,440 --> 04:07:40,500
CCHHS strives to meet the metrics of a

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04:07:40,500 --> 04:07:43,180
successful environmental public health agency

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04:07:43,180 --> 04:07:46,160
while maintaining positive relationships with the community.

2595
04:07:51,240 --> 04:07:53,600
The 2025 Annual Environmental Health Report

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04:07:53,600 --> 04:07:57,620
described eight of the 10 environmental health programs listed above.

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04:07:58,280 --> 04:08:01,160
Each program has specific state and local

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04:08:01,160 --> 04:08:04,080
regulations associated as well as national standards.

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04:08:04,080 --> 04:08:18,060
The 2025 Annual Report reviews these regulations provides an overview of what inspections were performed for each program and then lastly what violations were observed during these inspections.

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04:08:18,060 --> 04:08:24,380
In 2025, the environmental health team conducted 1,443 inspections.

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04:08:25,180 --> 04:08:28,460
This included routine inspections, complaint investigations,

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04:08:29,420 --> 04:08:33,840
pre-opening inspections, construction inspections, and information consultations.

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04:08:34,880 --> 04:08:39,180
The majority of this work was conducted by just two environmental health specialists.

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04:08:44,360 --> 04:08:51,280
In the report includes two graphs that I would like to highlight for our largest environmental health program, our retail food program.

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04:08:51,280 --> 04:08:55,200
This also includes temporary food establishments.

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04:08:55,840 --> 04:08:58,280
Anually permitted retail food program establishments

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04:08:59,000 --> 04:09:03,040
make up and create 81% of our required annual inspections.

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04:09:04,260 --> 04:09:07,240
Since 2020 there has been a steady and significant increase

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04:09:07,240 --> 04:09:10,440
in the number of food permits issued by CCHHS.

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04:09:11,820 --> 04:09:14,460
The graphs provided show there's been an 80% increase

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04:09:14,460 --> 04:09:18,020
in the number of annual food establishments in Carson City since 2020.

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04:09:18,020 --> 04:09:26,180
over a 1300% increase in the number of temporary food establishment inspections in Carson City since 2021.

2613
04:09:28,470 --> 04:09:34,450
This is an important not only for the impacts to workload for staff, but also to show the growth in the community.

2614
04:09:38,540 --> 04:09:45,980
I'm glad we already broke the egg on sewage talk. I'm here to talk about it a little bit more just before lunch.

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04:09:46,720 --> 04:09:51,440
So, in additional program, I wanted to highlight from the report is our individual sewage

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04:09:51,440 --> 04:09:58,060
disposal system program or a septic system program, oversight of septic systems, protect

2617
04:09:58,060 --> 04:09:59,980
groundwater, service water.

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04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:09,820
And our drinking water for our community. The picture provided gives you a glimpse of the areas in Carson City that utilize well, septics or both.

2619
04:10:10,620 --> 04:10:18,620
Today, there are currently almost 1,800 properties that rely on wells for drinking water or septic systems for wastewater disposal.

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04:10:18,620 --> 04:10:29,700
I wanted to highlight this program for two reasons. One, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, the average lifespan for a septic system is 30 to 50 years.

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04:10:31,020 --> 04:10:38,820
That means that homes built between 1976 and 1996 utilized septic systems and are reaching their anticipated life expectancy.

2622
04:10:38,820 --> 04:10:45,120
Secondly, new systems being installed on undeveloped properties or properties with failed

2623
04:10:45,120 --> 04:10:48,860
septic systems, post certain challenges during the review process.

2624
04:10:49,540 --> 04:10:56,720
These challenges include parcel size, size of the home, topography or slope of the parcel,

2625
04:10:57,200 --> 04:11:01,740
soil characteristics or barriers within the soil profile and set back requirements.

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04:11:02,440 --> 04:11:11,020
The added complexity of these systems require more communication, collaboration, and time with contractors and engineers and homeowners.

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04:11:11,820 --> 04:11:16,020
Environmental health looks forward to further supporting the community with these specific projects.

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04:11:19,650 --> 04:11:25,650
Lastly, I would like to highlight a few of our 2025 successes and our 2026 improvements.

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04:11:25,650 --> 04:11:30,010
The main success included increased communication with the community.

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04:11:30,530 --> 04:11:36,830
This was via environmental health newsletters, recall notifications via email, and educational

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04:11:36,830 --> 04:11:42,850
materials provided to operators for their day-to-day activities and to make their businesses

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04:11:42,850 --> 04:11:43,770
more successful.

2633
04:11:44,950 --> 04:11:49,490
We have only received positive feedback regarding this communication and the increased communication

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04:11:49,490 --> 04:11:49,990
methods.

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04:11:50,910 --> 04:11:55,290
Additionally, 2025 showed an increase in efficiency and effectiveness of inspections.

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04:11:56,470 --> 04:12:01,010
This was achieved by increased training and exposure for the environmental health specialists

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04:12:01,630 --> 04:12:07,570
and as a part of a broad approach to provide even better customer service for our operators

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04:12:07,570 --> 04:12:08,550
in our community.

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04:12:09,930 --> 04:12:15,370
2026 improvements include focusing on data collection and data metrics for all programs.

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04:12:15,370 --> 04:12:27,990
I specifically would like to highlight that starting the beginning of this year we've specifically entered or started entering our temporary food establishment inspections and violation and observations into our system.

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The goal of this is to be able to provide more specific educational materials for these types of vendors and temporary businesses to allow the inspection process to be more smooth and more efficient.

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04:12:43,910 --> 04:12:47,490
CCHHS has continued to increase public education and outreach materials.

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04:12:48,090 --> 04:12:52,690
Something new that we did this year was we provided operators, temporary operators,

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04:12:53,110 --> 04:12:59,130
and inspection checklist to help them be prepared and know what to expect on the day of inspection.

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04:13:00,130 --> 04:13:05,370
We are hopeful. We've only received positive feedback regarding the checklist and we're hopeful that this will help

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04:13:05,370 --> 04:13:10,630
operators and the public know what to look for and what is needed to be done on the day of.

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04:13:12,190 --> 04:13:19,490
Last but not least, environmental health continues to make improvements towards meeting the Food and Drug Administration retail food programs standards.

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04:13:20,150 --> 04:13:25,090
I look forward to giving you an update next year on what that looks like in our quality improvement.

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04:13:26,750 --> 04:13:37,330
As Jeanne previously stated in the director's report, as of June 2026, for the first time since 2022, environmental health is fully staffed with registered environmental health specialists.

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04:13:37,330 --> 04:13:46,870
This is a huge accomplishment for our team and allows us to further, further be available and improve the environmental health programs in Carson City.

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04:13:50,550 --> 04:13:57,830
As I close the presentation today, I would also like to offer my deepest gratitude to the environmental health team and our data analyst Rachel Hakeman.

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04:13:58,450 --> 04:14:04,890
Without their work and efforts, this presentation and report would have been made possible but not as easy.

2653
04:14:04,890 --> 04:14:13,510
So I really appreciate all of the effort and work that they put into that, and I'm very proud and honored to be a part of the team.

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04:14:14,710 --> 04:14:22,570
Are there any, is there anything additionally that you would like to see in the next reports or any data I can provide and or do you have any questions?

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04:14:26,320 --> 04:14:36,360
I would point out that with the information of one six Americans annually, and stuff with a, what

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04:14:37,060 --> 04:14:42,780
So lay people refer to as food poisoning and technically referred to as a foodborne illness.

2657
04:14:43,300 --> 04:14:49,880
That means three of us in the last year in this room were affected by foodborne illness.

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04:14:50,940 --> 04:14:54,200
And hopefully it was too bad because we're all still here.

2659
04:14:55,900 --> 04:14:59,960
And so obviously not all of those are acquired at a rescue.

2660
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:10,180
A lot of unquestioned or through cottage foods. Is a significant problem that requires a lot of diligence and staying on top of.

2661
04:15:10,440 --> 04:15:20,200
I had a question for you. On the cottage food aspect, what seems to be the most common problem that you're seeing there. We're seeing so much more of this cottage food stuff.

2662
04:15:20,200 --> 04:15:24,420
But what is the common problem that you're seeing in the college food industry?

2663
04:15:25,440 --> 04:15:27,560
So I wouldn't necessarily call it a problem.

2664
04:15:27,760 --> 04:15:34,040
But what we see most often is that recipes are just copy and pasted from the internet

2665
04:15:34,040 --> 04:15:39,920
without further review of the ingredients or the fact that they are perishable or non-perishable.

2666
04:15:43,140 --> 04:15:48,500
So we have to review every recipe that comes in because we want to protect the citizens

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04:15:48,500 --> 04:15:53,280
in the community and our visitors from purchasing these items and ensuring that they don't require

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04:15:53,900 --> 04:15:59,960
refrigeration or that they are from an approved source. So the cottage industry, like you said,

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04:16:00,220 --> 04:16:05,760
Dr. Lyons is booming. I'm very happy for them, but it is a lot of effort on the team to ensure

2670
04:16:05,760 --> 04:16:11,860
that what you buy and what you purchase out of farmers market or a craft fair is actually safe for consumption.

2671
04:16:13,680 --> 04:16:18,480
So what may look good, but you want to be sure. Some of these recipes are very creative

2672
04:16:18,480 --> 04:16:20,860
and they look very, very delicious.

2673
04:16:21,340 --> 04:16:23,700
We don't get to taste test as part of the job, though.

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04:16:25,020 --> 04:16:26,860
Thank you.

2675
04:16:27,900 --> 04:16:34,200
Jeannie, I would ask you to update the Board of Health regarding

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04:16:34,200 --> 04:16:41,840
the change previously before Candace joined us or Dustin

2677
04:16:42,480 --> 04:16:47,800
at one point was overseeing both Epi and Environmental Health.

2678
04:16:47,800 --> 04:16:56,280
And now that's changed where Rachel of Epi is overseeing preparedness.

2679
04:16:57,140 --> 04:17:00,020
So just a little bit about your thoughts about those changes.

2680
04:17:01,720 --> 04:17:03,000
Thank you very much for the record.

2681
04:17:03,960 --> 04:17:08,720
Yes, Carson City Health and Human Services always has to take a look at what our efficiencies are.

2682
04:17:08,920 --> 04:17:14,420
And we take a look at what grant funding comes in and the other funding sources that we have available to us.

2683
04:17:14,420 --> 04:17:21,040
And previously the organization had prior to COVID, it was at be an environmental health that

2684
04:17:21,040 --> 04:17:26,300
were combined. And part of that was because the staff that was in place had the expertise

2685
04:17:26,300 --> 04:17:33,540
in at be an environmental health. When COVID occurred, we separated those into two separate

2686
04:17:33,540 --> 04:17:38,180
divisions, and we had a specific epidemiology division, and then we had an environmental health division.

2687
04:17:39,220 --> 04:17:44,280
As things continue to change, the organization has to continue to evolve to make sure

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that we're meeting the needs of the community,

2689
04:17:45,960 --> 04:17:47,520
those foundational public health services,

2690
04:17:48,140 --> 04:17:49,760
and to also meet the intent of the board

2691
04:17:49,760 --> 04:17:51,460
to make sure that we're ensuring the quality

2692
04:17:51,460 --> 04:17:53,560
of life of our residents, our visitors,

2693
04:17:55,120 --> 04:17:57,840
and everybody else who gets to enjoy Carfson City.

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One of the changes that we made recently

2695
04:18:00,440 --> 04:18:03,180
was to have the public health preparedness division

2696
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and the Epidivisions become combined.

2697
04:18:06,660 --> 04:18:09,500
And you might say, well, if you had people combined

2698
04:18:09,500 --> 04:18:11,560
and then you separated them, why would you combine again?

2699
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It actually makes a lot of sense

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04:18:13,600 --> 04:18:19,160
for epidemiology and public health preparedness to be combined because the vast majority of emergencies

2701
04:18:19,160 --> 04:18:23,580
that would occur from a public health standpoint are going to be diseased related.

2702
04:18:24,060 --> 04:18:28,400
Not saying that anything else wouldn't potentially be a disaster, it could be, but when we

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04:18:28,400 --> 04:18:33,740
look at where that would be having those two entities combined, they work hand in hand,

2704
04:18:33,760 --> 04:18:39,660
almost every day prior to the combination of those two branches in what that looks like.

2705
04:18:39,660 --> 04:18:45,920
But it's not flip-int. We don't make those decisions overnight. We have a lot of thought that goes with that.

2706
04:18:45,920 --> 04:18:51,220
We make them based upon not just what the funding looks like or what somebody's expertise is,

2707
04:18:51,280 --> 04:18:55,980
but what does that really mean for the overall service to the community and so forth?

2708
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Both of those branches serve multiple counties through the work that they do in the delegations that they have with the state.

2709
04:19:01,740 --> 04:19:04,080
So again, it makes sense for them to come together.

2710
04:19:04,080 --> 04:19:19,180
they work in support of one another on a day-to-day basis and then they are able to share that information out with multiple partners including the Quad County healthcare coalition as well as other entities that they both mutually serve.

2711
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So there's a lot of efficiency as well with that, but the fact that they're housed together they work together on a regular basis and made a lot of sense for that to be there.

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Rachel, what the freshman was previously in our epidemiologist role, the one position that we had in epidemiology at that point in time outside of our disease investigators.

2713
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She was willing to take on that challenge. She applied for that challenge to be that combined unit.

2714
04:19:45,780 --> 04:19:56,460
Rachel has been in her role since July 10 as the epidemiology and public health preparedness manager and I can tell you that the way that she's able to bring people together in such a quick fashion.

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04:19:56,460 --> 04:19:59,980
She's a model for many of us when it comes to that.

2716
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:14,800
Work. And so really glad to have her in that role. And then being able to have Laney come on, as our new epidemiologists coming out of the UNLVs, epidemiology fellowship program, really comes to show with that dynamic of how we will continue to grow.

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And the ideas that are already coming out of that combined branch about how they can expand into the community to make a stronger and really that trusted partner, which was one of the major points of feedback that we had from the board during our strategic planning was

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04:20:29,260 --> 04:20:33,480
what is CCHH is this identity, what are your roles,

2719
04:20:33,680 --> 04:20:37,200
what are your responsibilities, and are you the trusted partner?

2720
04:20:37,600 --> 04:20:39,640
So they're already putting that into practice

2721
04:20:39,640 --> 04:20:40,900
with the work that they're doing.

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04:20:41,040 --> 04:20:43,020
So we're very excited to have that combination

2723
04:20:43,020 --> 04:20:44,660
and to have Rachel leading that.

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Thank you.

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And then, Gini, I would just point out also

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04:20:49,940 --> 04:20:53,940
there was some funding loss relative to,

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04:20:55,380 --> 04:21:01,220
I don't remember having another manager or division manager or something.

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04:21:02,740 --> 04:21:06,940
So there are absent flows within grant funding all the time.

2729
04:21:08,260 --> 04:21:12,340
Definitely we're in some challenges right now because there's changes that are happening at the federal level,

2730
04:21:12,920 --> 04:21:16,680
but every time an administration comes through there are changes that happen at a federal level.

2731
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So public health, if you want to use a word to describe us, we need to be flexible.

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04:21:21,300 --> 04:21:24,680
we're always flexible. We're looking at what's happening. We need to look at wastewater.

2733
04:21:25,300 --> 04:21:30,520
I wish wastewater retails the story about funding, but it doesn't. There's more than 14 days

2734
04:21:30,520 --> 04:21:38,340
that take us to take us there. But when we look at what's there, we know that funding for public health

2735
04:21:38,340 --> 04:21:45,760
is a surge and a resurgence that happens, right? So it, when there's something that's a pandemic or

2736
04:21:45,760 --> 04:21:50,140
there's something that's major that happens, there's a bunch of funding that's there. And then we

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04:21:50,140 --> 04:21:53,560
to handle that and then we tend to pull it away.

2738
04:21:53,960 --> 04:21:55,360
This we're in that same cycle.

2739
04:21:55,980 --> 04:21:57,640
And so we know where we're at.

2740
04:21:57,960 --> 04:22:01,420
We are, I have an incredible management team.

2741
04:22:01,720 --> 04:22:03,920
I don't know how to tell you how lucky I am

2742
04:22:03,920 --> 04:22:05,700
with the management team that I have

2743
04:22:05,700 --> 04:22:09,120
that we sit together and we talk about strategy,

2744
04:22:09,380 --> 04:22:11,420
but we're not looking at the strategy of today.

2745
04:22:11,840 --> 04:22:13,860
If we're looking at the strategy of today, we are behind.

2746
04:22:14,560 --> 04:22:16,860
We are looking at the strategy long term.

2747
04:22:17,420 --> 04:22:19,040
And again, that comes back to,

2748
04:22:19,040 --> 04:22:22,760
You had Ms. Singer here today who was talking to you about the services that they do.

2749
04:22:23,160 --> 04:22:25,740
There is no reason for us to be in that realm.

2750
04:22:26,160 --> 04:22:29,140
They do it well. They have the tools to do that.

2751
04:22:29,320 --> 04:22:31,220
We are not going to try to do everything.

2752
04:22:31,680 --> 04:22:34,860
We have been asked by all of you to make sure that we are efficient

2753
04:22:34,860 --> 04:22:39,480
and to make sure that we are targeting the areas that we are good at.

2754
04:22:39,800 --> 04:22:41,260
And identifying where the gaps are.

2755
04:22:41,260 --> 04:22:43,220
We may or may not be the ones to fill that,

2756
04:22:43,420 --> 04:22:45,320
but we are making sure that we are coming in line

2757
04:22:45,320 --> 04:22:47,340
and meeting that mission associated with the city.

2758
04:22:49,480 --> 04:22:50,940
Thank you, Jeanne.

2759
04:22:51,200 --> 04:22:54,840
Everyone to know that I gave her no heads up on those two questions.

2760
04:22:58,160 --> 04:23:02,260
And did anyone have anything else for Candace, for Jeanne?

2761
04:23:06,480 --> 04:23:07,600
Thank you.

2762
04:23:08,380 --> 04:23:13,700
And with that then, we turn to public comment.

2763
04:23:15,970 --> 04:23:17,090
Everybody looks at you, Jeanne.

2764
04:23:20,220 --> 04:23:20,780
Thank you.

2765
04:23:21,280 --> 04:23:22,660
And with that, I will adjourn.

2766
04:23:22,780 --> 04:23:23,540
Thank you very much.