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public access
for the protection of the health safety

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and welfare of the public due to the
ongoing covenant team pandemic

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so with that being said madame clark
call the roll please willie campbell

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here mark blevins here robert aka
anthony brown mike hill

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here nancy brown

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julie quinn hi
bradley johnson here mark kester

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here charles von cannon president
isaiah grindstaff here jerry prophet

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here
austin james

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austin james ross garland
here layla ward

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what is that ginger holden
here randall jenkins

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here gary bailey here
travis hill here sanja culler

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where's that daniel mcintyre here
aaron frazier here robin mckamey

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here kelly collins here
thomas prophet here austin james

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madam clerk i think austin said he may
not make it tonight

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okay foreign

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thank you next time agenda is approval
of the agenda

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for deletions mr chairman yes sir mr
bailey

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is there any way that i could address
the commission before committee reports

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uh for about five minutes
yes i don't think that'll be a problem

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unless anybody has an objection to that
will pencil in commissioner bailey uh

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after the mayoral report
if that's okay with everybody

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nobody has anything else i'll accept the
motion for the amended agenda

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motion to prove the agenda mark blevins
first district

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second thank you motion by mr blevins
second by miss brown any discussion

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hearing none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell

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uh mark blevins uh robert a cub
yes auntie brown yes

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mike hill yes
julie gwen yes bradley johnson

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mark tester yes charles von cannon
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jerry prophet austin james ross garland
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ginger holden yes randall jenkins
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yes jonathan keller yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier

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yes robin mckamey yes
kelly collins yes i was profit

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yes thank you
before we move into opening prayer i

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just need to make a quick announcement
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to let anybody know who may be here for
a public hearing for a rezoning request

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that has been moved to may i believe
we've failed to

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uh publicize that for the public hearing
so that will be in may of 2021

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so now we'll move on to the opening
prayer with commissioner willie campbell

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and then that will be followed by the
pledge of allegiance by commissioner

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kelly collins
heavenly father god of lords about our

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heads today lord and giving you honor
and thanks for this day that you've

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given us lord
god we just thank you today lord that we

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had the privilege lord
to bow our heads and call upon the

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precious savior
lord tonight we do pray lord for each

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thing is said and done lord that we do
it in your will

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god we do pray for each commissioner
lord it says on these boards

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god that you just blessed them lord
tonight we pray for those who are on the

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front line of this covenant 19 lord
and the ones that have lost family

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members god we pray lord
god that you comfort their hearts lord

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you said if they call upon you god
you've come for that heart

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lord we know that there's trouble on
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and and all of our world god we just
pray today lord that you have your hands

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upon each one have your anointing upon
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god we could never give you enough
praise and honor lord for the prayers

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that you've answered
the miracles that you've worked in each

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one of our lives
lord we're here tonight lord just to

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give you honor and praise and glory for
it all for us in christ's name we pray

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amen

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salute pledge i pledge allegiance

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with liberty and justice

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next on the agenda the the acceptance of
many minutes from the march meeting

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a motion to approve i'll make that
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randall jenkins six i'll second that
isaiah ground staff

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all right motion by mr jenkins second mr
grindstaff any additions or deletions

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hearing none madam clerk call the roll
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willie campbell mark blevins
uh robert aco yes

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nancy brown yes mike hill
yes julie gwen yes bradley johnson

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yeah mark tester yes
charles von cannon aye isaiah grimstad

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yes great prophet here austin james
ross garland yes layla ward

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laila ward yes ginger holdren
yes randall jenkins yes

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gary bailey yes travis hill
yes send your caller abstain

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daniel mcintyre yes
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billy collins yes thomas prophet
yes sonya how did you vote

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i abstained i was absent okay

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okay otherwise thank you next item on
the agenda's approval of notaries and

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bonds
ashley woods melissa joyner louis carty

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kathy bales edgar l presnell and add

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this one to your list to sharon w
phillips motion to approve

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thank you to my mr fraser second by mr
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any discussion hearing none madam clerk
call the role please

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willie campbell mark blevins uh
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yes mike hill yes
julie gwen yes bradley johnson

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yeah mark tester

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yes charles von cannon yes
isaiah grant staff yes jerry prophet

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all eyes promotion past thank you next

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on the agenda i will recognize
commissioner garland to introduce our

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next guest he wants to take control here
yeah thank you chairman he'll um just

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want to welcome
this group we've we've been waiting on

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them for a while we've uh
actually got friends uh miss joy mcrae

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our new director on i think june was
that's when that was and so she's been

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with us for a while
been doing a fantastic job i think uh mr

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level is here david leveaux also from
security federal he's our chairman

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and luke's going to present also but um
happy to have them

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they've been working hard and they can
tell it's all about it but we're proud

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of of all the work they've been doing so
uh i'll turn it over to miss joy i know

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she's here or
david whoever wants to start us out hey

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thanks so much i'm actually going to let
lou kick it off and so he can tell you

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all about what's going on with tourism
luke go ahead you can screen to share

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yeah
can you all hear me all right

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share my screen here
hopefully this works

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another cool dream

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um yeah my name is luke freeman i am the
director of tourism at the chamber of

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commerce i appreciate y'all letting us
join you today but uh just wanted to

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kind of share with you some of the
things that

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we've been up to the past year or so and
just kind of give you an update so for

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starters
this is kind of our snapshot of tourism

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and economic impact from tourism in 2019
i know that's a little dated at this

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point but that's um
what we have the most recent numbers on

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we usually get those in the fall
but we saw we were 40th out of the 95

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counties
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generated 42.17 million dollars in
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tourism expenditures that creates 218
jobs produces 6.59 million dollars in

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payroll 2.6 million in local tax revenue
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and then just as a result of that every
household in carter county is able to

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pay
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would otherwise if we didn't have that
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that money supplementing our income
so that's great um as i think

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maybe ross mentioned we moved our
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center downtown
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615 east elk avenue
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excited to be there
the part of downtown where visitors can

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find us real easily as they're walking
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and down and so if you haven't
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come in and see us
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2020 was a really crazy year i know for
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particularly for tourism just like
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a big dip in the spring as everyone just
kind of shut everything down and we

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closed our visitor center for
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of caution and
trying to keep everybody safe but then

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since kind of spring
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tourism people
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county is a place you can come you can
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and so that's been really good i'll talk
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but one of the things that we had to
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through that dip and to help us recover
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about 31 000 from its federal money but
through the state

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provided us through the care act to
kind of help with that recovery and we

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use that to do a marketing campaign
to market carter county as a safe place

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that people could
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visit carter county safely
we did a banner ads display

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ad campaign that got over 2 million
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we did some print ads and good
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women's day magazine um travel taste and
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so i think this is one of the ads from
travelation tour that had a um

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write-up as well with it
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just several different things like that
we were able to spend that money on

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we had to be spent before the end of the
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kind of rushed that and did that real
quick but it it turned out really well

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i think it got a lot of eyeballs on
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a really good increase over the winter
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past years and i think that's probably
in large part due to that we also

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received a grant
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department of tourist development
which was a matching grant for marketing

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purposes that we're also using
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search engine campaigns as well to
kind of keep promoting to people who are

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searching for things related to
visiting the mountains or lakes or

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things like that
uh some of the other projects we've

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participated in
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did was the
walnut mountain trailhead that the

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project of the backcountry horsemen
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it's a
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the work themselves
with money to buy gravel and

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bring in heavy equipment to put that in
but that's going to be a really great

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place for
people to park to ride horses there on

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our mountain trails
ride mountain bikes hike it's just

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another great infrastructure
that we can add to give people more of

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an ability to get out and enjoy those
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and hopefully spread out even more and
not everybody go to carter's gap or

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something like that but have some
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we also recently just this past week
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go betsy with their project to build a
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at their highway 400 lovers lane
again we think that's going to be a

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really great project for tourism
just help people get on the river help

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keep things safe
spread people out i think that'll be a

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good thing
we're continuing to distribute our

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brochures we send those throughout the
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the north carolina high country area
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welcome centers
and our brochure actually won an award

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it was the original
award winner in the 2020 international

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best brochure awards
from the international association of

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visitor information providers
so that was really cool we were excited

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about that we just learned about that a
week or two ago as well

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and talking about some of those
different digital marketing campaigns

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we've been doing
um we've been doing these this is an

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example of one of our facebook ads
those have reached over 1.1 million

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people
and got about 45 000 clicks

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through um facebook and people
who click on that who are interested in

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learning more and want to come visit
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over 000 187.000
and a click-through rate of over five

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percent and that's just like when you go
to google or whatever search engine

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you type in you know cabins in the
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and then you see those sponsored ads
showing up at the top so we're showing

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up in those
listings and uh we're doing that in the

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atlanta and nashville markets
to encourage people from some of those

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kind of drivable distances to come in
and visit and when they're searching for

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those kind of things that
you know we can tell them we've got that

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here come visit us

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a couple of events we were able to do um
this past year we

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hosted the rain grown as we do every
year by grace from

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elizabethan to the tougher one mountain
and this year we were able to bring over

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the criterium portion of that
johnson city omnium as well and um

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we're going to be able to do it in
johnson city we said we can host that

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here in carter county
and so we had that in september it was a

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great event and
everybody loved it so much that we're

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bringing it back this year and we're
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i know you've already heard about that
and you all donated some of the money

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for that which we certainly appreciate
to make it the carter county on him this

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year we're very excited about that
that'll be the

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first weekend in june it's the fifth and
sixth

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that uh we'll have those racers they
come in from all over the country all

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over the world even
and we're excited about having that

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we're gonna do the packet pickup
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in conjunction with the
main streets first friday event and so

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that'll be a really good thing they've
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bringing a half marathon
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they do a lot of the
local races and stuff like that that of

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course brings people from all over the
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to come and participate we're excited
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if you want to run and walk sign up for
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and again we're doing the packet pickup
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downtown

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we lost you luke okay
am i back yet yeah you're back

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okay um
i don't know where you lost me but i was

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just talking about the music in miles
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and that was pretty much where we lost
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chase
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we're going to kind of do
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and
do some of the just kind of

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get encourage people to come participate
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back on saturday and of course those
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spend money go eat a restaurant um spend
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excited about that

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have you developed uh data on where
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are they staying in bread breakfast or
they're staying and

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can't are they camping or they're
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well we do get some of that information
we see that um some people do stay in

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the motels
uh there's of course a lot of airbnbs uh

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cabins we've got places like b cliff
that has i think 13 or 14 different

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cabins lots of great places to stay
places like boots off that have hostels

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and camping
uh the watauga dam campground so you

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know it's all pretty spread out here in
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for people to stay and we do see a lot
of times

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folks will stay with us saw somebody i
think the other day that came in and

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said they'd
just driven into town or staying at camp

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stone fly up on the water river
that's like there are spots for people

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and they find places but we certainly
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more lodging hotels and that kind of
thing in carter county

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but this is another event um the
acoustic mountain jam at boots off

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hostel and they're hosting that kind of
through hikers coming through town

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um as well as anybody locally who wants
to attend and

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hear some music and so that's another
event that we're sponsoring

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and um we're continuing to partner with
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the northeast tennessee tourism
association i'm on that board we work to

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promote the whole region
including all of us here in northeast

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tennessee
we're also still part of retired

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tennessee program
which encourages people to retire here

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we see people
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then from
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wherever that
they're just looking for somewhere

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that's affordable where they can have
great cost of living and just a

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beautiful area
lots of things to do whether they like

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fishing hiking that kind of thing
so we see a lot of people coming in for

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that sort of stuff as well
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seeing a great increase in tourism this
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since kind of we started the recovery
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people are realizing what a great area
this is we're encouraging them to come

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be safe but come travel come visit us
and we're seeing a whole lot of people

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and that's been really good i think
some of those grants and stuff we've had

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been able to help us out and we're
continuing to try and support tourism in

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whatever ways we can
but we certainly appreciate you all

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support um
i'll say you've got my contact

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information there feel free to come by
our office i'm normally there

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during the week or give me a call shoot
me an email i'll be happy to answer any

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questions you have
um and now i'll turn it over to joy and

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i think we'll take it from here oh
thanks let me see if i can share my

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screen
while i'm doing that i know david

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leveaux is on here and
he would like to say hello and say thank

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you to all of you abby can you help me
share my

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oh i got it yes hello everyone this is
uh david leveaux

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i wanted to thank everybody for your
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of our tourism group and chamber of
commerce i wanted to thank

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mayor woodby for her support on some of
the programs we're doing and of course

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uh ross being part of our board um
we thank you also as the commission has

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uh
helped us with bringing that bike race

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and providing some funds to help assure
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and hopefully you were able to see with
luke's presentation

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all the neat things that we are
advertising and bringing into this

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county
we're really excited uh the outdoors and

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the natural beauty of
carter county has really been an

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attraction in itself
and uh we've been able to get the word

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out that it is safe space here
and so many people are looking for the

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outdoors
rather than the metropolitan cities and

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uh large large arenas uh especially
this past year and uh we've really

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experienced that
and and businesses in town have

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experienced that as well
so uh thank you everybody for your

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partnership
and support and look forward to doing

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more with you
in the future thanks david

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hey so i'm just going to echo a few
things that luke has said but i wanted

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to give you an update on what
chamber's been doing you know we're all

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in the same office but we have found
ways that we can partner together

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and work more efficiently for our
community and

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luke totally stole my picture and i'm so
mad because i was going to show you a

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picture of the ins
outside of our building but i'll show

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you the cool outside of our building if
you haven't seen it

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we have a webcam so if you are out of
town or you just want to know

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one of our board members tells me that
he looks at this all the time it's kevin

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peters all the time uh if you wonder
what the weather is you can watch our

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webcam it's on our website
you can also see it on wjhlw they

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feature it
all the time on the news on the weather

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camp and then we just got featured on
the weather channel

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which we think it's super exciting um
this is a steel feed from it though but

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if you ever want to know it's happening
on elk avenue please

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feel free to use our webcam and check it
out for yourself

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so you've seen the outside of our
beautiful building you know it's on top

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of our beautiful building
these are some of the things that you

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can see that are happening inside of our
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um i just want to talk to you about some
of the things that we've been able to

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offer for our members
um we have re-van

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all the programs that we offer for our
membership one of the things that we do

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is we've offered connection days for our
members who

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we saw something with covid that we've
probably never seen before that a lot of

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our members
just piecemeal together what they could

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and they found themselves
not really sure how to do e-commerce

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nobody knew how to do zoom in 2019
as well as we do now and that's true for

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a lot of our members especially when
their whole mission and their whole

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business is
is buying and sell goods whether it was

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a restaurant
or a merchandise store or retail or

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insurance
or even with real estate being able to

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be efficient on zoom and be efficient in
the things that they were doing every

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day
in this covered world was something we

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needed to be part of so
we opened a thing called connection days

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you can see a picture of seth taking a
picture of tracy

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and you know gave a chance for our
members to

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just come in and get their things put
back together we saw a lot of folks that

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couldn't figure out how to make one
thing linked to another whether it was a

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paypal to their e-commerce page
or their social media to their website

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or their google the google maps to
something else

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so they came in spent some time with us
we got it all cleaned up and sent them

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back to do
great work we've been able to host uh

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several
meetings in our building just local

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civic groups we had the rotary club in
recently

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it was great to have them in for lunch
you see a bunch of angry teenagers down

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at the bottom
was our chamber youth ambassador group

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uh mayor woodbe had the opportunity
to come speak to them uh last semester

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she spoke to him on soon but this
semester she spoke to him live

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we have a member who teaches dog class
so she's hosting her dog classes you can

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see
that little dog right there that

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graduated and then we've been able to do
some things with downtown as well with

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main street
whether it be small business saturday

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and we did gift wrap from one of our
non-profit members

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and we've participated in pretty much
all the events that have happened

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downtown and continue to do that as they
come available

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here we go so one of the programs that
we have that i talked about before was

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our chamber youth ambassador program
mayor would be thank you again for

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coming over and speaking to my young
ladies this time

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y'all last semester i had 25 students
from all five high schools so all four

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counties
the and the city high school and some

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homeschool kids um this semester i have
all young ladies and it's just as

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exhausting
it's all girls it's all it's so much fun

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it's great to really give them an
opportunity to learn about why carter

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county is a great place to live
work and play we have four different

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days and we do it each semester we have
tourism day industry day healthcare day

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and community day
that they get to find out what makes

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carter county so great
who are the people that are making it

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work and they they kind of get a better
idea of

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what careers may be available here in
carter county and if anything have a

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healthy respect for some of the careers
that

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may not be for them but they may have to
encounter one day so that's one of the

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things that we've looked forward to
we'll continue with that it's been

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really successful and we're glad that we
brought it back

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we've had great response from all of our
city schools and all of our county

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schools
that we're going to offer another

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program this summer
boss lady is new we started a women's

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networking group
um it's for any women any age any level

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we you know any level that they're at in
their career and we meet monthly

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we just had our enneagram workshop we
had 54 ladies that came and learned all

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about how to communicate with others and
how to communicate

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better within their workplace we if you
want to see some things get done

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go to a group and ask give them a
problem and

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just step back and i bet you will solve
it so that's been great to see

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women from all different walks of life
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all different in all different areas
really get together

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and and find a way to make our region
great and talk about what makes our

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region great
so we'd really love to have a boss lady

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milligan college that's our next event
is our we're back to chamber breakfast

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so we host our first
virtual hybrid breakfast last month

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um we hosted at our building we had
elizabeth and art alliance

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that was in our building that hosted
chamber we keep the numbers small you

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know we're a trout small chamber anyway
but we also offer a virtual option

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we'll probably do virtual forever not
just because of covid but because some

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of you live in roane mountain
and it snows a lot here in february so

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what a great opportunity when it's
snowing

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or you're trying to get from one place
to another or if you're like me and you

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got three kids and somebody has broken
their retainer and you gotta go deal

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with it at eight o'clock in the morning
you can still have an opportunity to

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zoom in and be present and still have a
great way to connect

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this is our annual joint breakfast we're
partnering with the johnson city chamber

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we'll be at milligan college
it's one of the biggest breakfasts that

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we have this year and it will be
important but again we will offer that

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zoom
it's a great opportunity for our members

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to meet some folks that they might not
meet otherwise to do business

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and to do networking and to learn more
about what's going on at milligan

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university so upcoming events derby by
the doe

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is may the first uh that's a fundraising
event that we're doing all the proceeds

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go towards
a lot of our programs that we offer each

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year what leadership class starts on
thursday i know

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uh mayor woodbe will be speaking to my
folks then

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level up is coming up that's for our
brand new baby entrepreneurs that

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really just need to know the ins and
outs of how to do business

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our next level business class is for our
folks that have been in business for a

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few years

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do they do they hire do they need hr
things like that

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carter county 101 is specifically for
our folks that are new

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like luke said we've seen people move
here from all over

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the united states in the world um they
all don't know the secret menu at pals

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they don't know how to get to anywhere
in town they don't know the shortcuts

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they don't know what day
trash day is they don't know you know

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they don't know the things that we as
locals know so it's basically

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how to live like a local in carter
county um to kind of give out that

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information
like i said our chamber youth ambassador

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program it's gone so well we're going to
offer a summer session

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um it's that one will just be june 28th
29th and 30th for our students

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we have a lot of student athletes that
wanted to participate but they could not

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miss
one more day of school so we're offering

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it specifically at that time
when it's tws double a blackout that

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they can come i know all of you look at
the thing

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straight at the bottom yes legislative
breakfast it's may 14th

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from 9 to 10 30 a.m at tcat governor lee
will be present and will be speaking

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tickets go on sale in the morning i know
that john thompson

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and the star on this call i will be
sending you a press release in just a

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minute
um but we're excited to have that come

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up this year
last year our legislative breakfast got

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00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,000
pushed and pushed and pushed and we
ended up having it in september

440
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,000
so if you are coming and you know that
you're coming and you want a

441
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,600
ticket let me know so i can mark it
before they all get sold

442
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,960
do you all have any questions for me
that i could possibly answer about

443
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:06,159
chamber
or anything that's been going on with us

444
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,480
you can always reach me at chamber i'm
usually there sometimes i'm not running

445
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,279
around
um you can always email me at chamber or

446
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:19,360
call me directly
joy this is mayor whitney

447
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:23,279
hello hey i just wanted to say thank you
to you and david and your team for a

448
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:27,600
wonderful job that you're doing
for not just promoting carter county and

449
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:31,440
tourism regionally and locally but
for the programs that you're offering

450
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:35,200
from our youth to our businesses
to our business leaders um all

451
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,480
throughout that's just a plethora of
things to get involved in and i'm very

452
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,679
excited to see
how active the chamber is i think that's

453
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,880
great news and
especially during a pandemic so um

454
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,080
i just want to say kudos to you guys and
for thank you for all your hard work

455
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:53,279
it's truly appreciated
thank you i appreciate that and i

456
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,159
appreciate you coming over mayor woodbe
is a brave lady

457
00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,559
to walk in that room with those girls
and tell them the truth

458
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,440
um i have seen many many flustered but
we appreciate you guys and we really

459
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,240
appreciate you believing in us
and giving us the opportunity to bring

460
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:11,840
some of these big events that luke
talked about

461
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,840
and reinvest back into our community

462
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:18,960
no other questions we will leave we will
see ourselves out

463
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:24,399
if we have any questions for for joey or
luke or david

464
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:27,519
i think i've got one uh luke joy you i
noticed your

465
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,399
the uh the click-through rates that you
were having a lot of your ads

466
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:35,039
have you been able to get those to
continue to trend upwards are they

467
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,039
staying about static or

468
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,159
luck i'll let you answer that yeah we've
been seeing those go up

469
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,760
it's um this is something we just kind
of started

470
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,799
i guess about a year ago and so it's
there was kind of an introductory period

471
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,840
where we're figuring out what worked and
what didn't work but then we see

472
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,919
really good really good race since then
yeah

473
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,960
the google ad rate click-through rate is
really that's really good the facebook

474
00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:03,039
was a little bit low i think
but uh the other one was great yeah we

475
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:07,440
just started the
facebook i want to say and it hasn't had

476
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:10,879
quite as much time as the other to get
optimized and

477
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:14,879
still kind of dial that in but yeah
those are it's going really well

478
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:20,800
awesome you guys are doing great thank
you thank you thanks

479
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:23,200
anybody else all right well guys we
appreciate y'all coming on board keeping

480
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:30,079
us updated and
thanks for the fantastic job y'all doing

481
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:33,679
bye thank you all next we'll move on to
item nine which is resolution

482
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:38,800
we'll turn over to uh tony hard and he
wants to read that resolution or a

483
00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:38,800
caption of it or whatever he wants to do

484
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:45,760
yes sir i'm going to keep my video off
so hopefully the internet will keep

485
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:50,079
working but this this is simply a
resolution authorize the

486
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:53,040
county mayor to make and sign an
application for grant funds from

487
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:59,119
tennessee housing development
agency for the home rehabilitation grant

488
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:04,240
this is another round which we've gotten
several times before

489
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:11,280
probably this time it's uh 450 000 total
this is for rehabbing low income housing

490
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,280
and there's no county match required

491
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640
motion to approve

492
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,920
motion by mr frazier said by mr blevins
any discussion

493
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,760
hearing none madame call the roll please

494
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:34,480
billy campbell uh mark blavins uh
robert david yes nancy brown

495
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:41,680
yes mike hill yes
julie gwen yes bradley johnson

496
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:48,640
yeah mark caster yes
trust von cannon hi isaiah grant staff

497
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:55,200
yes jerry prophet yes
austin james ross garland

498
00:35:51,680 --> 00:36:02,160
yes layla ward yes
ginger holdren yes randall jenkins

499
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:09,119
yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes sanja culler

500
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:16,560
yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey

501
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:23,359
yes collins yes
thomas prophet yes all eyes

502
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:26,400
promotion past thank you hey let me i'm
sorry to interrupt right there chairman

503
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:31,200
hill but i know um
the date on that says april 12th and

504
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:35,040
also adopted april 12th is is that okay
i'm sure josh can make that change but

505
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:43,440
i made that i made that change on the
original uh

506
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,839
i caught that after i sent it out for
the package but it's it's fixed on the

507
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:52,320
original
okay just just wanted to check thank you

508
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:56,240
josh uh are you going to cover the
forensics agreement is that gonna be

509
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,240
mayor would be

510
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:04,240
uh it doesn't matter i'm happy to
mention what i know about it

511
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:08,800
okay yeah uh this is the uh
obviously simply amending the term and

512
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:15,280
the uh
the rate slightly for the forensic

513
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:22,160
uh agreement with etsu for autopsies
essentially uh as you all know when

514
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:27,359
years passed this is sort of uh
about our only option this is an

515
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:31,920
agreement that etsu has with many other
counties in our

516
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:35,359
region and it does include
an incremental increase in the cost for

517
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,280
medical examiner
it's slight increase but it is an

518
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,640
increase
uh every year and this is a this

519
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:51,839
agreement
is the current term and extends it for

520
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:51,839
another two years

521
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,000
there would be you want to say anything
or no that's correct all that josh said

522
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:06,480
that was the agreement that was sent to
me i forwarded on to him

523
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:09,680
well i'll entertain a motion to accept
it if anybody wants to do that

524
00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:19,599
i'll accept the resolution or the the
amendment to the agreement

525
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:23,040
okay i'll second i think i'm by mr
jenkins

526
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,040
any discussion

527
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:37,520
was there any uh excuse me was there any
compensation uh for example we had 156

528
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:46,640
kobe deaths in carter county so far
uh how did that that didn't have to be

529
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:51,820
uh run through a medical examiner did it
if it did we're broke

530
00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:51,820
[Music]

531
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:01,680
to my knowledge mr von kennedy it did
not i think these are

532
00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:06,960
suspicious uh or drug-related
unaccompanied deaths is generally

533
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,160
uh when an autopsy is called for so i
don't believe

534
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,160
that simply a coca death would have
resulted in an

535
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:18,800
autopsy but i may be wrong on that but
in any event it did not

536
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,560
change the contractual uh rate that we
pay

537
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:27,280
i'll ask the same question i asked last
year

538
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:31,200
who makes a determination that
an autopsy needs to be performed

539
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:41,440
well uh mr mccann i believe it's it's it
can be the medical examiner

540
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:45,760
uh it used to be a call that could be
made solely by the

541
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:49,760
law enforcement agency the sheriff but i
believe

542
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:54,079
when that law changed a few years back
it's now can be requested by the

543
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,359
sheriff i believe but i think the
medical examiner is able

544
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,760
to make that call on their own as well
now

545
00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:12,240
any further discussion that's
legislation from the state level that

546
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,640
it changed several years ago and there
was some

547
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:21,680
there was some pushback from local
sheriffs including ours

548
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:26,480
uh on some of that legislation but as it
stands it's still intact

549
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:30,720
now and the i think it's a total of
eight counties

550
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:34,640
that uh sign this same agreement with
etsu

551
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:38,640
and of course the bargaining power there
for the terms of the agreement is as a

552
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,560
collective unit amongst those eight
counties

553
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:47,040
and one county alone is it's kind of
hard to

554
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,040
to negotiate much

555
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:53,839
do we have any information on how many
autopsy autopsies we've had done

556
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:02,480
i have not received that in quite some
time i know we used to get it

557
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,800
at least quarterly but i haven't seen it
lately

558
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:13,359
mayor have you seen anything no i have
not

559
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:16,960
um josh can we amend this agreement
on our behalf to have them uh

560
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,359
responsible for issuing quarterly
reports

561
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:25,760
uh frankly i believe that's still part
of the original contract

562
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:29,920
uh i don't know where the ball got
dropped on that i know

563
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:33,520
uh we used to get them uh and they were
included in the

564
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,480
packets at least quarterly i believe and
i i think that's just a matter of

565
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,240
reaching back out to them
i don't know where that contact was lost

566
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:43,920
but it i believe it still is part of the
original agreement

567
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:49,839
that did that just being extended josh i
can reach out to them

568
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,839
okay

569
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,960
any further discussion

570
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:02,240
hearing none madam clerk call the role
please willie campbell

571
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:05,280
mark blevins robert daycare
abstain for calls

572
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:16,880
nancy brown yes mike hill
yes julie glenn yes

573
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:24,319
bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes charles von cannon yes

574
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:32,160
isaac runs dave yes jerry prophet yes
austin james ross garland

575
00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:39,280
yes yes
yes randall jenkins yes

576
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:46,800
gary bailey yeah travis hill
yes sandra culler yes

577
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:54,000
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
yes robin mckamey yes

578
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:59,200
kelly collins yes thomas prophet
yes allies

579
00:42:57,359 --> 00:43:02,880
motion pass thank you next we'll move on
to the mayoral report with mayor patty

580
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:07,280
woodby mayor you're recognized
thank you chairman um just got a couple

581
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,440
of things
um i need as we know gary smith's

582
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:16,160
retired and so i need to
appoint billy harrell to the 911 board

583
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:20,160
um so i need to go ahead and make that
an appointment to get him on that board

584
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:25,119
and i don't i don't think we have to
vote on that i can't remember

585
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:28,720
i don't think so is that correct josh i
don't think so i don't think we do

586
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,680
i just can't remember haven't done one
in a while i can't remember either but

587
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,760
it wouldn't hurt
just to confirm okay

588
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:44,400
i'll make that motion yeah
motioned by gary bailey second by gross

589
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:50,000
garland to
uh point billy harrell to the 9-1-1

590
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,000
board any discussion

591
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:58,000
hear none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell uh

592
00:43:54,160 --> 00:44:05,040
mark blabbins robert cub yes
nancy brown yes mike hill

593
00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:08,000
yes julie gwen yes
bradley johnson

594
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:18,640
yes charles von cannon hi
isaiah greinstein yes

595
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:25,760
yes austin james ross garland
yes laila board yes

596
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:33,440
ginger holdren yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes travis hill

597
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:39,839
yes sandra culler yes
daniel mcintyre eric frazier

598
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:48,800
yes robert mckamey yes
kelly collins yes thomas prophet

599
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:52,800
yes allies motion pass thank you
thank you um the next thing i'll update

600
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,160
the commission on is the single point of
entry that began last week it's it's

601
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,520
going very well
not had a lot of complaints not really

602
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:03,359
had a lot of upset people
and it's just something they're going to

603
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:09,839
have to get used to first week we
security did confiscate i think six guns

604
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,880
first week um just really more than
anything people

605
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:15,280
forgetting that we we have that in place
and they were asked to take them back

606
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,560
out to their vehicle
so that that did um catch at least six

607
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,640
of them
um let's see and i also wanted to go

608
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,079
over i know we have been discussing with
building

609
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:28,880
grounds possible possibility of
discussions of the chamber

610
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,359
the old chamber of commerce building
with the city i had shawn shanks

611
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:37,680
go over today and look at the building
or architects

612
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:42,800
um and it needs a lot of work
um yes they estimate the building itself

613
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:46,880
around a hundred thousand dollars to
even begin

614
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:49,040
it's in pretty bad shape um so that's an
update on that i don't know how the

615
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:53,280
commission
if that's still even an option at this

616
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:57,359
point i didn't know how in depth
it was but they did a thorough overhaul

617
00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,480
of it today inside and out
um it needs a lot of work is basically

618
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,119
is what i've
been called a lot of work he said you're

619
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,160
looking at starting at around 100
000. so that's an update on that um

620
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:14,240
on that on that that may be something to
remove off of our list

621
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,160
next thing as you know we were we are
bringing the restrooms up to ada

622
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:22,160
standards in the courthouse
those plans are complete and the bid

623
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:26,079
process will begin hopefully at the end
of the month first of may for that

624
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:30,800
project to get all the restrooms up to
standard and to add two family

625
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,920
restrooms to each floor that we'll be
able to use for anybody especially

626
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,400
wheelchair accessible
those plans are ready um and the

627
00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:42,079
workforce development
plans which brad will be happy to hear

628
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:46,240
we did i did receive the as bill
drawings today they're on my desk

629
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:50,000
and we will have the final copy from the
surveyor in

630
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:54,000
the next few weeks so that's the status
on that project we do have

631
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:58,880
the asbia floor plans for the the whole
the entire

632
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:02,720
both buildings um and i think that's
that's uh that's kind of all i got going

633
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,960
on right now anybody's got anything for
me

634
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:11,920
mayor brad john uh did they get copies
of the uh

635
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:15,760
the drawings to uh dr mcavee
not yet i'm planning on setting up a

636
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:20,880
meeting with
shawn shanks myself and whoever becomes

637
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:25,839
the building and grounds chair
that's the next step

638
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,319
any further questions for the mayor

639
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:37,040
i hear none i will say i appreciate uh
director harrell's

640
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,800
um report he put in our packets this
month that was very

641
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:44,720
handy to see what exactly he does on his
calls yeah and he and we have decided

642
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,359
that he will submit a report each month
to the commission just to kind of give

643
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:52,640
you an idea of what
um what the office is doing and we also

644
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:56,800
had our new employee trent start today
he's the deputy

645
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,760
ema and uh he's great guy and he will
we will bring him into the commission

646
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:05,200
next month to meet the commission since
we'll be in person

647
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,839
thank you all right next we'll move on
uh this was a late edition

648
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:13,839
commissioner gary bailey you're
recognized sure

649
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,920
yes sir can we take about a five minute
break

650
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,680
uh let's finish up with mr bailey and
we'll take a break before committee

651
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:24,400
reports if that's okay
all right thank you mr chairman um

652
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,720
actually i'd like to this is two parts
i'd like to address the commission with

653
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,559
something
the first one is an article in the paper

654
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:36,079
the other day about
trash in the city um

655
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,440
i want everybody to know that the way
the article was wrote it basically looks

656
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,960
like our county commission is not doing
its job

657
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:47,440
or being at the landfill the problem is
that's in the city

658
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:52,640
and i see mr estes is on there
um i'd like to just have an answer of

659
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:59,200
why they tried to blame
the county the way that was wrote

660
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:03,760
and the thing is that's the city's
cardboard and trash so if they're

661
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,079
throwing it out and they're locking
their dumpsters

662
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,200
why are they blaming the county
commission in the landfill with that

663
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,280
because the article pretty much was
stating that we was not taking it

664
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:19,920
my understanding that if it's in the
city that's their dumpsters

665
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:25,040
they are the ones that shut them off we
have never denied taking it

666
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,079
now i did have many to send an email
to the city basically telling them that

667
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,800
if
we cannot get to it they are more than

668
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:36,640
welcome to bring us that cardboard
besides going to a paper and saying that

669
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:42,079
basically we ain't taking it because
we are not denying them

670
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,160
the right to bring that to us it's just
the fact that when it's in the city the

671
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:51,040
seediest one shutting that down
so mr estes is on there maybe we can get

672
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:55,119
an answer
see mr thank you mr gail mr bailey i

673
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:58,480
really appreciate being put on the spot
since i'm an audience member

674
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:03,680
but i do appreciate the opportunity to
speak to it

675
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:06,800
uh and i'll explain it to you this way
my understanding of the agreement which

676
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,240
predates me by some time
was that when these facilities were

677
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:15,359
opened it was a joint agreement between
the city and the county

678
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:19,040
the city arranged to provide the land
the facilities to where they're located

679
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:24,079
one of them's on the edge of lions field
and the other is leased

680
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:30,000
by us from tdot and that on mill street
was built through grant money to open

681
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:34,319
that recycling facility
we do not operate a recycling program

682
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:39,359
forgive me for my kids in the background
we do not operate a recycling facility

683
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,480
we don't have a recycling program
this was an agreement between the city

684
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,240
and the county and the
the agreement was we would have the

685
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,440
facility there available
and that the dumpsters there belong to

686
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,400
the county and that there's three
sets of dumps or some dumpsters that are

687
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,040
picked up three times a week and some
roll offs are picked up twice a week

688
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,559
on numerous occasions we've had
difficulty in having those

689
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:04,079
dumpsters empty to the point to where
the the

690
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,520
recyclables were overflowing and members
of the public were leaving those

691
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:11,200
recyclables on the ground
well that's ultimately an unacceptable

692
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,880
situation
i think for anyone we don't want to see

693
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:19,359
that happen that's one thing the other
one is if people are leaving trash and

694
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:22,720
other items that are actually trash not
recyclables

695
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:27,040
that's another matter and i and then i
hate that it's unfortunate

696
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:31,839
i wish people wouldn't do that but that
wasn't the root of the problem

697
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:35,040
the root of the problem was we need them
picked up if they're going to be open

698
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:38,240
and we don't have the facility to do it
and we don't operate trucks to do that

699
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:41,920
we
we don't do recyclables the agreement

700
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:46,000
was that the county would
pick those up as needed and we've had

701
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:48,400
we've struggled over a period of time to
get them picked up routinely this was

702
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,079
really
ultimately the straw that broke the

703
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:56,400
camel's back was that they went for a
period where ultimately that

704
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:59,280
it just got in a terrible shape it
wasn't the first time

705
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:02,000
it's my understanding i don't personally
deal with it that's why i have a street

706
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,960
sanitation manager
and i can have him come on the next

707
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:08,720
minute if you'd like to speak to mr
gilbert in

708
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,280
directly or we both can attend the next
sanitation the landfill committee if you

709
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:14,000
wish
you'd be more than happy to do that or

710
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,680
have a dialogue or you can call my
office

711
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:21,040
uh that i'd be more than happy to do so
but the thing is

712
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:26,240
this is not the first time it's not the
second time it's been multiple times

713
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,599
and i can have mr hilbert or his number
two jeff marlow or the administration

714
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:33,599
assistant
kelly talley speak to how many times

715
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:37,520
they've tried to call and have the trash
picked up

716
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:41,680
so it's a matter of it's a win-win
we have a recycling facility in the in

717
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,800
the city that city and county alike can
use

718
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:48,079
that's a help to us i agree i like it
it's a nice thing it's a good thing for

719
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:51,200
the environment and hey and if it keeps
trash out of the landfill that's a

720
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:54,559
tipping fee we don't have to pay for
but also it's a winner for the county

721
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,680
you run a recycling operation you all
just got

722
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,000
even deeper in the recycling business
and i applaud that if there's money to

723
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,680
be made
that's a winner for both of us but we

724
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,559
don't pick it up that's not part of the
agreement and it's never been part of

725
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,720
the agreement
so if if you're ready and willing to

726
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:15,520
pick up the trash on a routine basis
we'll open tomorrow

727
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,680
well my my point is the way it was wrote
in the paper

728
00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:20,319
if there was a problem somebody should
have come to us and basically said look

729
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,480
this is it but it
it more or less just basically thrown

730
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:28,480
out that the county is not doing
that part in the city and that's why i

731
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:32,800
was addressing this so if there's a
problem

732
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:36,480
you know if one of our trucks is down
i don't see a problem of four miles up

733
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,520
the road
and honestly where the cardboard's going

734
00:53:38,319 --> 00:53:43,200
functionally for you is we're actually
down there behind

735
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:48,079
near the the ball field behind tractor
supply so i mean

736
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:51,599
it might be in an agreement but to have
the trash thrown on the ground then say

737
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:56,640
the county's not doing their part just
i just well i appreciate that i wasn't

738
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:00,319
throwing stones at anybody in particular
trying to make it personal

739
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:02,800
but i got a phone call about it because
those statements were made in the

740
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,480
landfill committee meeting and the
question was a fair one

741
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,280
what's the situation i respect that and
understand it

742
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:11,599
but the newspaper called my office
wanting to understand what the situation

743
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,800
was
and i tried to be polite and diplomatic

744
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,880
in what i said if you go back and read
those words

745
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,200
i don't think i said anything
particularly pointed yes it was factual

746
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:26,160
i'll i will say that again i know that
there's a matter of opinion as to

747
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:29,200
what the circumstances are uh but it's
literally just

748
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:33,599
if we can have routine service to get
those dumpsters emptied

749
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:36,559
everything will be fine we will try to
work on that okay

750
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,680
can i address all right or ask a
question is it it was a problem

751
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,400
i i think i heard a little bit of it
other night during the budget hearings

752
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,440
it was it because that
he had two drivers down for sick as a

753
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,480
reason he wasn't getting picked up
right now he's trying to get some that's

754
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:54,640
what come up i mean
we've had a job posting they're not

755
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:58,480
going to run with cdl for 10 something
and there's the problem he is short

756
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:02,480
drivers so i mean we've got to pick up
what we can

757
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:05,280
so i mean well and i understand the
respect that there was a problem in the

758
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:09,680
short run there when somebody was sick
but again i'm

759
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:12,000
not trying to have a you know knock down
drag out over it it's not worth it for

760
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,440
that
i don't want to be that at all but this

761
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,400
is not the first time we've had this
problem and it's just a matter of

762
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:23,520
if we're going to run it we have to be
able to run in a consistent way

763
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:27,839
uh and have it kept clean uh
in work uh it just has to be it has to

764
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:31,680
work okay that's the agreement
can i make a quick suggestion gary maybe

765
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,400
maybe for future reference
uh maybe somebody has a better idea

766
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:37,680
maybe if we see we're going to have
drivers down

767
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,680
maybe we can contact mr hilbert open up
the communication line to

768
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:44,240
uh possibly just having to close it off
until we so it's not laying on the

769
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:49,040
ground blowing around
yeah all right i appreciate that mr

770
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:51,440
chairman that's one where
if there's going to be a shorter

771
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:55,040
something's coming along if we can catch
it in anticipation of it

772
00:55:53,839 --> 00:56:00,960
getting to the point where it can't be
picked up we will be happy to

773
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:04,720
to work with you but um it was a no-win
situation

774
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:08,559
again i i didn't it wasn't personally
too offend but

775
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:11,280
you know i stand by my statement yeah i
think we just need to have a

776
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:14,480
if i need to attend one of the landfill
meetings maybe all of us just get

777
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:17,520
together and work this out and get on
some kind of plan like i said if we're

778
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:21,040
going to have people shorthanded
to to just contact mr hilbert and just

779
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:24,480
go ahead and just shut it down for a day
or two so it's not

780
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:26,960
piling up but we definitely need to get
something an understanding between both

781
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:30,160
sides
especially with the you know i read

782
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,720
there was hardwood thrown in one of the
dumpsters and that's

783
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,960
that's a that's going to be a pain with
our new baler so we got to get that

784
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:40,880
taken care of
okay mr hill i see mr hill i'm going to

785
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:44,160
ask something mr i think
commissioner hill from the second

786
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:47,520
district would like to speak yes sir
thank you

787
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:52,160
chairman i also saw that article and
there was something glaringly missing

788
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:55,200
and that was anything in the sandwich
for the customer

789
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:59,599
there is no indication of customer
service and this thing

790
00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:02,240
um in the case of of these convenience
centers and

791
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:07,920
and landfill ops in general your
customers are the taxpayers

792
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:12,559
they pay for this service in advance and
not being able to utilize these services

793
00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:14,880
that they have paid for in good faith in
advance

794
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:19,040
causes them to have to take it somewhere
else uh there's an illegal dump site

795
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:21,839
that is being proposed to be cleaned up
right now i think that's probably where

796
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,640
part of that goes but
you know clearly missing on both sides

797
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:32,559
of the coin city and county
was a woeful omission

798
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:36,160
of any kind of consideration for the
customer

799
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:39,440
please do better in in client relations
you guys can talk you guys can certainly

800
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:43,920
figure this out
um this shouldn't really even be a topic

801
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,720
at this meeting right now
thank you chairman thank you ross mr

802
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:52,880
garland i'll see you guys
that's the key to his communication i

803
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:56,079
know uh mr s just mentioned that
because i've heard both sides also from

804
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,079
the city side
from county side i think the people

805
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:04,160
dumping stuff feel
down there illegally trash 1200 pounds

806
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,880
of hardwood floor nobody can deal with
that

807
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:11,680
i've also heard that the cameras aren't
working that that on those facilities

808
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,960
so i think just talking it out and and
trying to get on the same page and

809
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,160
working out the kinks of this thing
because it's a pretty successful

810
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:20,880
operation if we can keep it going and we
need to

811
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:24,160
uh especially with the new baylor coming
on in the next month or so

812
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:28,480
so that's something we gotta work out
and iron out for uh for all of us for

813
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,520
the good of this county and city
thank you thank you the second part of

814
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:35,680
this
basically i'm glad mr estes is on there

815
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:40,880
is communication
um two months ago we had a special call

816
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:47,200
meeting with landfill
so basically 19-5 was the vote

817
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:53,920
to send it to you all to the city to see
what their thoughts are on a 501

818
00:58:49,200 --> 00:59:00,240
3c has there been any discussion on that
because what we're hearing in paper

819
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:05,680
and around is they don't care or just
kind of just it's dead so

820
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:09,920
you know the communication i think the
commission made it pretty clear what

821
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,559
they want to go with and we're just
trying to figure out

822
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:18,000
now we're at 12 months before this is
going to come back up and

823
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:21,040
any discussion at all
well i appreciate it again to to speak

824
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,799
off the cuff
uh that's i'm always willing to do so

825
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,799
uh but

826
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:33,359
let me say this i think a couple of
things are in order one would be

827
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:39,040
my personal opinion i think a little
cooling off period was was of use

828
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:44,319
because uh emotions were running high
and folks were really

829
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:49,680
uh keyed up on the whole matter uh and
there's there's nothing to be gained by

830
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:54,000
being hasty one way or the other because
we need to figure out what's going on

831
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:59,160
uh i suspect what you will hear uh if
you speak to the city council members

832
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:04,079
is that they're willing to entertain a
501c3 as a

833
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:08,000
form of uh incorporation or governments
whatever it's going to be for the animal

834
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:11,440
shelter
however that's that's a concept that's

835
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,280
not a plan
i think that before you can sign on to

836
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:19,359
something it's going to have to be more
fully fleshed out so i think what you've

837
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,359
seen is

838
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:26,880
an opportunity to find out where the
process is going to play out if the

839
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:26,880
animal shelter board is going to

840
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:32,640
facilitate some of that how that's going
to play out as far as getting the

841
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:37,200
particulars lined up
uh it's not at the stage where it's an

842
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:40,240
action item again i
just again i can't speak for seven

843
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:43,520
people because i
you know maybe part of my job is to read

844
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,839
the collective minds of certain people
on a daily basis

845
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:55,920
but which is not entirely possible uh
but i don't think it's in a again to say

846
01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:00,559
yes 501c3 no matter what or absolutely
no we're never going to do that it makes

847
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:06,000
no sense i think it's an open mind
uh but i don't know how much fruit is to

848
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:10,319
be born by voting on a concept
alone i would instead say i think it's

849
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,720
it's useful to let a process play out if
that's going to be by way of the shelter

850
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,680
board which
i think that they're trying to find

851
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:20,640
their way on that if you were in
attendance at the last shelter meeting

852
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:24,640
uh they're trying to uh figure that out
uh and i'm

853
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:28,880
and you know and by the way you know
three out of the seven members of the

854
01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:35,520
council are on that board
so uh that gives them some uh

855
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,680
some place to to participate uh i think
the the comment maybe that you were

856
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:44,079
referring to
commissioner bailey about uh

857
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:50,319
how it got started was maybe one of
perception and communication

858
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:53,920
yeah and it was uh in that
it might have been more advisable if we

859
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:58,960
were going to have this discussion
uh city and county government together

860
01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:02,079
to have more fully fleshed it out
and i appreciate that it's the

861
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:07,039
commission's prerogative to express its
opinion however it wishes

862
01:02:04,839 --> 01:02:10,079
but to put the shoe on the other foot it
looks like it

863
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,119
you know this was the commission's vote
fair or unfair

864
01:02:11,039 --> 01:02:15,599
to actually say well this is what we
want done you know this is where we're

865
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:21,599
going period
it's either you know whatever it is

866
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:27,200
leave follower get out of the way
and that's not exactly how uh the uh

867
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:30,720
a partnership if you work with somebody
and try to communicate with them to come

868
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:34,240
to an answer
don't jump out in front of the other one

869
01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:38,000
talk with them and try to work it out
because again i think the council is

870
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:41,440
open to the discussion
they just don't want to be run over okay

871
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,079
i think
it's all right mr buddy i think i'm

872
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,839
gonna go ahead and stop this
conversation

873
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,799
we're done i just want to say that i did
listen to the to the animal shelter

874
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:53,920
board meet another night and i think
i think it may get brought up later on

875
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:57,680
in committee report maybe if not i'll
bring it up but they did

876
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:03,359
uh bring up the fact that they want
c-pass and impasse to work together

877
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:06,000
to basically dig into this and i think
it's something we definitely need to

878
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:10,480
consider on our part
to support that uh when that comes

879
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:16,160
before us i think there'll be a letter
come to myself and maybe mayor would be

880
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,799
chairman hill uh i will report on that
at the

881
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:22,319
appropriate juncture okay thank you dr
akov so with that being said let's take

882
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:28,319
about a 10 minute break let's come back
at 7 15

883
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,319
and we'll get started with committee

884
01:03:28,839 --> 01:03:31,839
reports

885
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,840
okay

886
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,360
my watch it's 7 15. we'll go ahead and
jump back in here

887
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:07,040
and let hopefully everybody in the
courthouse start rolling back in

888
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:10,960
but chairman james has texted me and
said he's going to jump on here and give

889
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:16,800
the budget report um
so whenever he wants to start we'll go

890
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,800
ahead and let chairman jane start

891
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,960
ross do you have your hand up i did not
but um i thought i was actually

892
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:26,800
presenting this but if he wants to he's
more than welcome well he told me

893
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:29,440
earlier
you probably would but he just text me

894
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:32,400
saying he's going to jump onto budget
and he's going to jump back off

895
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:41,440
i don't know what's okay he might be a
little bit busy for some reason tonight

896
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,440
all right is everybody on

897
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:48,800
we're here buddy all right everybody
turn to the

898
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,800
budget and let's move forward

899
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:55,040
all right first i'll put into a form of
a motion to approve addendum number two

900
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:58,239
to the inmate
medical contract with southern health

901
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:02,320
partners
the renewal for the 2021 physical year

902
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:06,640
has a three percent adjustment and an
increase of

903
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:09,920
1468.
to the monthly base rate making the new

904
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:15,199
base
annual cost of this six hundred and five

905
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,480
thousand one hundred and seventeen
dollars and eighty eight cents

906
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:26,960
okay i have a motion by mr james
second take it by mr garland any

907
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:26,960
discussion

908
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,320
hearing none madam clerk call the roll

909
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,840
please

910
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,640
oh

911
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:52,159
aaron can you turn your speaker on
check checky mark blevins

912
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,260
[Music]

913
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:03,840
robert aka yes nancy brown
yes mike hill

914
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:15,520
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
yes mark kester

915
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:18,480
yes charles von kansas
isaiah grandstay

916
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,199
yes austin james

917
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:34,239
isaiah grant's dad yes
mike hill

918
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:45,840
ross garland yes lana ward
yes ginger holdren yes

919
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:52,560
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill

920
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:59,840
yes sandra culler test
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier

921
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,840
um restate the motion please

922
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:08,640
sorry i was late sorry okay thank you
aaron

923
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:13,280
sorry put into a form of emotion
mary hello mary it's commissioner hill

924
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,520
district 2.
my vote was yes thank you

925
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:22,719
i'm sorry it doesn't seem to work ernest
the renewal of the southern health

926
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:29,679
partners for the sheriff's department
yeah approved yeah yeah i agreed

927
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:36,560
changed mine robin mckamey yes
kelly collins yes

928
01:18:32,719 --> 01:18:46,480
thomas prophet yes okay
change my back yes okay

929
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:46,480
all right all eyes motion pass thank you

930
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:55,199
all right next i put into form of a
motion to appropriate

931
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:59,440
59 dollars and eight cents from the
courthouse security reserve account for

932
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:09,840
construction costs related to installing
an additional new entry exit door and

933
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:09,840
flooring for the clerk master's office

934
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:14,719
we gotta have a second before we hit
discussion

935
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:25,040
we have a second second by mr garland
now discussion mr bailey

936
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,040
exactly where is this door going

937
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:29,040
close at the clerk and master's office

938
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:35,280
yeah they've got a window that's coming
out right now the chancellor

939
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:39,520
has to walk around the building to get
in and it for security reasons

940
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:44,320
that he's supposed to not really be
going in with the same with the public

941
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,520
and they don't have an exit door in
their office in case of emergencies for

942
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:50,640
the staff
gary i feel like we've been discussing

943
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:57,120
this since we took office it's been on
there for a while

944
01:19:53,199 --> 01:20:02,880
all right we're good yes
mr phil yes sir mr tester i do have a

945
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:02,880
question

946
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:12,159
in um and grounds this was brought up
and it was

947
01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:18,800
stated in our package the tune of 57 000
when the budget approved it it was 59

948
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:25,120
863 which is
roughly rounding off 3 000

949
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:29,120
increase and i was just wondering
and i forgive me if i don't know what

950
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:32,239
this is but you know 57
60 000 seems a lot for just cutting the

951
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:36,239
door
but uh and i'm sure there's more to that

952
01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:40,639
but i just
i'm been not being privy to what other

953
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:44,800
stuff's being done here so
if someone could fill me in i would

954
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:48,239
appreciate it all right mr tester i'm
not sure of all of tomorrow i have to

955
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:51,120
update you but with this quote is is
putting the door in so

956
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:55,360
and it's going in the historic part so
we've got to comply with whatever the

957
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:58,480
historic committee has said um i believe
it's getting owning over it

958
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:02,080
we're going to have to build some sort
of platform for them to exit because the

959
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:06,159
elevation difference
and then on top of that they're also

960
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:09,760
replacing all the flooring in this quote
in the clerk and master's office too

961
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:16,560
so it's not just a door on the on the
quote they sent out to the budget

962
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,600
committee it's got fifty six thousand
nine hundred dollars for the

963
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:22,639
construction costs and that includes
replacement of florida clerk and masters

964
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,760
office suite includes
unforeseen conditions allowance of

965
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,400
twenty five hundred dollars includes
hardware for new door allowance fifteen

966
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,159
hundred dollars
and then you've got ancillary costs

967
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:36,639
which are architectural fees fire
marshal review historic zoning review

968
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:40,800
and miscellaneous that's where the 59
000 come in

969
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:43,840
we've had across a lot of hurdles to get
that approved

970
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:46,719
um through the fire marshal and the
historical zoning community we had to go

971
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,920
in front of all those
entities to get this approved it's not

972
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,440
just a door
it'll be a platform with steps going up

973
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:59,199
to the door there'll be an awning over
top of that the awning also has to match

974
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:02,880
the other awnings that are on the wheel
and like the commissioner jane said

975
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,520
there's currently carpet in there and
they're going to have to pull up a

976
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,360
portion of that carpet to do this
project so it was decided to go ahead

977
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,679
and pull up all that nasty carpet that's
in there

978
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:16,080
and replace it with the flooring that's
currently in all the offices in the

979
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,080
courthouse at the top

980
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:25,600
chairman hill if i may yes sir yes ma'am
um it was falsely reported in budget

981
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:28,800
committee that this passed out of
building and grounds

982
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:34,560
this did not pass out of building and
grounds building and grounds

983
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:41,360
wanted a breakdown of the cost
a motion was made and passed unanimously

984
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:46,400
that we would ask mayor would be to ask
sean shanks to provide uh cost analysis

985
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,520
on this
to show us exactly where the dollars

986
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:53,520
were going
uh so we deferred it until next month so

987
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:57,520
it was very
uh surprising and uh somewhat

988
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,080
disrespectful to me to find that it
appeared in the budget meeting a week

989
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:03,199
later
uh out of respect for the building and

990
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:08,000
grounds committee
i would ask that this commission vote no

991
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:11,360
on this issue tonight
uh from my understanding commissioner

992
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:16,159
holder under building and grounds had
already approved this contract

993
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:19,360
with champ with the door previous months
ago

994
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:22,239
and it came back around again due to the
there was some change

995
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:25,199
this was the final contract but the act
the amusement park had already been

996
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:29,280
approved
um her county attorney josh harding had

997
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:32,080
already approved that contract and i
just brought it back through building

998
01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:36,719
grounds again to
update the committee on the status of

999
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:40,400
the of the project
well um mayor would be this is a lot of

1000
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:44,480
money
and um i i take it very seriously when

1001
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:50,560
we spend
any money i wouldn't even uh you know

1002
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:54,719
i responded to uh commissioner hill that
i didn't even want to

1003
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,639
uh change the status of this meeting
this evening because i didn't want to

1004
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,159
pay that
new advertisement i take every dollar

1005
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:05,520
that we spend
very very seriously this is enough money

1006
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:10,960
to almost cost our taxpayers a whole
penny on their property taxes this year

1007
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:15,440
i don't think as long as it's already
taken i agree with uh

1008
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:21,199
hill and and some of them that have
spoken up and said that this has been on

1009
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:24,960
uh our discussions our agendas for a
long long time now

1010
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:31,840
but if it's been that long why can we
not wait one more month

1011
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:31,840
to see how this money is being spent

1012
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:38,960
terminator brett johnson yes sir mr
johnson

1013
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:44,080
uh i i agree with
uh chairwoman holder about this this was

1014
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:49,920
deferred in it and the
largest reason was that

1015
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,960
the bid was modified as it's already
been stated

1016
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:56,480
that there were other items that was
either added to

1017
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:59,760
because of the type of constructions
going on

1018
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:04,880
but if you look at the bid and since it
is modified it's only a

1019
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:08,800
single line identification on where to
be performed

1020
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:14,719
now we're paying for an ae service and
part of their service

1021
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:18,000
is to review the bid and to verify
that the amount that this bid is within

1022
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,040
comparable
range of what's called the construction

1023
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:25,360
issue
because all you got like i said a single

1024
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:29,120
line and fifty six thousand dollars and
doesn't tell you anything

1025
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:34,400
and they're also to verify that the work
to be performed within the scope of work

1026
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:40,800
that was placed out for business
uh and i support uh

1027
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:44,239
our chairman holden as it should be go
back to committee

1028
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:48,719
for the bill on the ground to approve
that and for the ae

1029
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:51,840
to give their opinion on the value of
the thing

1030
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:55,199
chairman james would it be outlined for
me to ask you to remove your

1031
01:25:53,280 --> 01:26:00,080
your motion and mr garden with a second
defer this until next month

1032
01:25:57,440 --> 01:26:02,080
until we get a breakdown i'm perfectly
fine

1033
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:04,560
i'm not deferring it next month they can
go to building the grounds and they can

1034
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,400
send it back when they get
get it cleared up in their committee so

1035
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:12,239
we've talked on this long enough we've
got plenty to cover here so

1036
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:15,280
um send it back miss would be if you
would reach out to the chancellor and

1037
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,639
see if you couldn't get him to log on
next month

1038
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:23,120
to building a grounds committee and uh
reinforce why he feels

1039
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:27,040
that it's necessary maybe him or mr will
report both

1040
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:31,679
and um why it's necessary that they need
a sixty thousand dollar door and

1041
01:26:29,679 --> 01:26:34,639
and uh see if that can help a little bit
with it too so

1042
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:46,960
it's just a matter of the bid document
being certified

1043
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:51,679
and verified by our ae uh
it does it is a requirement in ways

1044
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:56,960
because it does violate the nfpa the
fire codes for the builders

1045
01:26:53,679 --> 01:27:00,719
that space does not have but one exit
for the employees or any of the

1046
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:04,800
customers or citizens that's in that
space

1047
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:09,760
if an incident takes place so that
brings a defend qualification

1048
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:12,960
the question is is the cost now we've
already stated that the weather is going

1049
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:16,560
to be taken out so
basically to go in into mine through the

1050
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,840
walls
all you got is the lower portion the

1051
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:24,080
reinforcement
of the top is already there so that

1052
01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:28,320
takes out the seriousness of the
construction side of the house

1053
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:32,880
so that's why my question needed that's
awful

1054
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:36,400
mayor before we decide to defer this
do you have you do you have the quote

1055
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:39,440
where you can look at it is any of this
price guaranteed for a certain period of

1056
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:43,360
time or
or what because that's one thing that we

1057
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:47,440
do need to look at right now because
material they they won't my material

1058
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:51,520
quotes they won't guarantee but a week
at the moment

1059
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:56,159
it's 60 days i think okay
yeah well even if it is it can be rebid

1060
01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:59,440
we're not held with that that's part of
the statement i'm going out for bid

1061
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:02,880
yeah well what i'm saying is the
material is fluctuating so much it's

1062
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:06,239
going up so quick that
i don't know how good the quote was good

1063
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:11,199
for so we're not um
you know we're sitting here talking

1064
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:16,480
about 59 000 but next month it may be 67
000 is what i was getting at and just to

1065
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:22,239
let the committee know or the commission
know that is what shawn shanks says

1066
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:26,719
the problem is of the cost is materials
right now are so expensive

1067
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:30,719
um the highest the high quote that we
had to be come in was 86 000

1068
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:38,239
that was on the high end of the quotes
the bids that came in

1069
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:43,040
just to clarify a couple more things uh
chairman hill if you don't mind

1070
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:49,760
yes miss hold on go ahead um so
i reached out to tom shanks

1071
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:53,760
this evening around 5 p.m um
you know i love that group every time

1072
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:56,880
i've had to talk to tim or tom
as mayor woodbe has stated before they

1073
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,800
are
very nice very helpful very kind at all

1074
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:08,199
times
um the number is 56

1075
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:15,840
9 for labor and materials
5808 so that's 5 808

1076
01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:21,040
goes on top of 56 9
bringing the total project to 62 708

1077
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,480
dollars
when i ask during building and grounds

1078
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:28,800
if the 569
included architectural fees and

1079
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:34,679
managerial fees of the project
i was told yes it does but when i talked

1080
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:41,520
to tom shanks today he said no ma'am
5808 goes on top of that for

1081
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:46,960
their project management and for their
architectural drawings and whatnot

1082
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:50,000
so the project actually is more than the
number we're given tonight

1083
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:54,719
tom shanks could not tell me where the
59 000 number came from

1084
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:58,800
uh so i think if we're going to vote on
any numbers

1085
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:03,679
in the future it's got to be 569 or 62
708. uh commissioner holder yes

1086
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:08,239
i was looking at the quote on my phone
and for some reason it's got owner's

1087
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:13,679
contingency of five percent marked out
and that that brought it down to the 59

1088
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:18,239
860 308 which was 28.45
yeah that was correct they told me to

1089
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:22,960
take that out after they sent that to me
well he told me today that it it needs

1090
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:26,639
to stay in there until the project is
complete and if we don't spend it that's

1091
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:32,800
when it comes out
okay chairman hill

1092
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:36,560
yes mr james if i'm uh we've we've done
beat this road so it's going back to

1093
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:40,400
building the grounds
so let's move forward with this they can

1094
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:44,639
figure out numbers and bring it back to
us whatever it is

1095
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:51,679
next month all right thank you all right
next go ahead

1096
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:54,480
i just wanted to add that it is it as
far as it's

1097
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:57,920
compliant with uh the new courthouse
security with

1098
01:30:56,159 --> 01:31:03,760
fitting it with the kind of keyed entry
and all that stuff too right and ada

1099
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:08,159
and everything yes we talking right
all right next up we'll put into a form

1100
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:12,000
of a motion to appropriate
35 000 from the general unassigned fund

1101
01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:20,480
balance for salary of benefits for the
future carter county finance director

1102
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:23,679
motion by mr james second thing about mr
frazier discussion

1103
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:34,800
why was vacation added into that number
for such a short period of time

1104
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:38,800
i believe uh we've got mr burke out of
his vacation time and so that's

1105
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:44,080
we went ahead there's not currently
enough in his line item

1106
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:49,360
to purchase his vacation time out
so we had to add enough to go ahead and

1107
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,360
be able to purchase his vacation time

1108
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:58,000
okay so just for clarification 30 000
is set aside for the training of a new

1109
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:02,960
finance director once
they come on board and about 5 000

1110
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:08,080
is for burke's vacation time that we
need to purchase

1111
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:08,080
correct okay

1112
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:16,480
actually that vacation will be closer to
10.

1113
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:21,199
oh well stand corrected
well i would hope that you know

1114
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:25,360
by the time that we hire a finance
director we're not going to need to

1115
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:29,120
spend 30 000 anyway i wouldn't think
no and that's why we're kind of doing uh

1116
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:33,360
we put a number out there that we kind
of factored we hoped was really close

1117
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:36,400
and it's just going to be set there and
so you know it's

1118
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:39,920
i mean when you we hire somebody of
course we'll set their salary

1119
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:43,760
and then they may be extra money left in
there and we're getting ready to come

1120
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:47,199
up in in the budget so we'll yank it
back out if there's anything

1121
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:50,480
left but we just you know we're on a
tight time frame so we don't want to run

1122
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:56,159
up or short on the money and not have
the money to hire somebody

1123
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:58,719
um but yeah and that brad had told us
that we'd also need to give put some

1124
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:03,920
money there to be able to buy his
vacation time so

1125
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:03,920
that's where we come up with the 35 from

1126
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:15,360
okay chairman hill i'm i'm a little
confused

1127
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:19,199
how much is the vacation time
roughly ten thousand dollars is what

1128
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:25,440
director mark's saying
so you're going to count

1129
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:28,000
what was it 20 000 then for the
25

1130
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,199
okay thank you yes ma'am

1131
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,560
any further discussion

1132
01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:48,320
green none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell

1133
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:55,360
yes mark blevins yeah robert aiken
yes nancy brown yes

1134
01:33:51,440 --> 01:34:01,760
mike hill no
julie gwen yes

1135
01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:08,960
bradley johnson yeah
mark kester yes charles von cannon

1136
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:15,840
yes isaiah grandstaff
yes jerry prophet yes

1137
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,840
austin james yes

1138
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:28,560
ross garland yes layla ward
yes ginger holdren yes

1139
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:28,560
randall jenkins no

1140
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:34,400
gary bailey i'll pass right now

1141
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:46,080
travis hill yes
sandra culler yes

1142
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:54,719
daniel mcinturf oh
frazier yes robin mckamey

1143
01:34:50,560 --> 01:35:01,840
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes does anyone want to

1144
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:01,840
change your vote

1145
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:19,920
i'll vote yes it was
gary gary bailey

1146
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:23,440
21 eyes motion pass thank you
and uh chairman i just like to add on

1147
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:26,800
top that in the next coming days
financial management is going to be

1148
01:35:25,119 --> 01:35:31,600
seeking for that position
and you know i know there's uh

1149
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,880
not as many of us on that committee but
there is 24 commissioners that has to

1150
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:38,400
work with this person so
i greatly appreciate and i'm sure

1151
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:42,560
commissioner holdren would
uh all of us sits on that committee

1152
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:46,400
everybody's input and and
thoughts on this when we hire somebody

1153
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:51,760
um you know everybody's gotta
talk to this person so we want somebody

1154
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,760
that can work with all also

1155
01:35:52,239 --> 01:36:02,080
commissioner hill yes mr tester
i would make a suggestion that

1156
01:35:59,119 --> 01:36:07,520
whoever writes the specifications up for
this job and all like that

1157
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:13,520
that they have a minimum requirement
of so many years service in government

1158
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:18,880
business and stuff like that that might
keep you from getting

1159
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:21,920
400 resumes mr tesla i believe
commissioner holdren can address this i

1160
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:26,880
think we're using the same one we used
last year

1161
01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:32,159
and i don't know no we are not
okay sorry director burke and i worked

1162
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:36,000
worked on this for about a week we could
have advertised the position

1163
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:40,159
sooner but he and i wanted to get the
advertisement correct

1164
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:44,080
so he and i went back and forth for
several days and we came up with an

1165
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:48,560
advertisement that is
more restrictive than what we had used

1166
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:52,000
last year
because last year we got a lot of

1167
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:56,239
applicants that had managed
uh five people at wendy's that wanted to

1168
01:36:54,320 --> 01:37:00,480
be our finance director
uh and i'm making that up but that's

1169
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:05,440
very similar to some of the applications
that we saw

1170
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:08,480
um so this time we did put in there
so many years of government service so

1171
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:14,239
many
millions of dollars in management

1172
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:19,520
i think we used 100 for the number of
employees that they've had to oversee

1173
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:24,320
and that means county-wide not within
the department of course

1174
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:27,040
but that you know and director burke if
you want to chime in here but we did try

1175
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:32,320
really hard
to to get a more qualified top

1176
01:37:29,679 --> 01:37:32,320
individual

1177
01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:39,360
mr chair mr director
i would just like to add a couple things

1178
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:44,080
uh
i believe it's absolutely essential to

1179
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:49,040
have somebody with governmental
finance experience it's a different

1180
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:56,960
world than a
private business uh

1181
01:37:53,199 --> 01:38:00,560
be hard to learn the governmental
as well as doing the taking care of the

1182
01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:03,840
responsibilities that come along with
the

1183
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,840
position

1184
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,920
absolutely

1185
01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:17,280
all right let's move forward uh
commissioner hill i'm

1186
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:21,360
chairman hill can we or get a copy of
that

1187
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:26,639
um commissioner holden can a copy be
sent that out to everyone about

1188
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:30,880
what qualifications of course yes ma'am
thank you and now we do have a special

1189
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:35,920
called meeting on this on the 22nd
um at six o'clock i don't know i haven't

1190
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:40,400
looked miss holden is it zoom or is it
um in person it's in person sir in

1191
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:44,800
person at six o'clock
i guess in the main courtroom correct

1192
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:49,119
it'll be in whichever room
uh miss abby and miss would be tell us

1193
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:52,239
is vacant and available
it'll be somewhere on the second floor

1194
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:56,560
of the courthouse
yep so i you know anybody wants to show

1195
01:38:54,400 --> 01:39:00,000
it please come
i understand that we're advertised for

1196
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:03,760
the mayor's conference room and that's
not a very big space at this time

1197
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:12,159
um we will not be going over any
applications

1198
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:17,119
on that evening because applications can
be received through april the 30th

1199
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:21,360
um so i understand that people will be
interested but

1200
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:24,480
that kind of um meeting is going to be
in may not

1201
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:27,199
april so miss culler i'll definitely
take that into consideration when we

1202
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,679
schedule that meeting
thank you

1203
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:36,960
all right if everybody's good we're
going to move forward here um

1204
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:40,560
next i'll put into a form of a motion to
approve a policy establishing

1205
01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:43,760
establishing a deadline
for all carter county departments to

1206
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:47,679
spend any budget committee
related requests and documents to the

1207
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:51,760
carter county finance department
the first monday of each month seven

1208
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:55,280
calendar days prior to the regular
scheduled budget meetings

1209
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:59,440
with an exception for issues that the
finance department classifies as an

1210
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,440
emergency

1211
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:09,440
second promotion by mr james second with
mr fraser any discussion

1212
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:15,920
hearing none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell yes

1213
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:22,560
mark robbins yeah robert aco yes
nicky brown yes mike hill

1214
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:30,800
yes julie gwen yes
bradley johnson yeah mark tester

1215
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:38,159
yes ross von cannon yes isaiah branstad
yes very prophet yes austin james

1216
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:44,960
yes ross garland yes
laila ward yes ginger holdren

1217
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:52,719
yes randall johnson
yes jerry bailey yes travis hill

1218
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:59,679
yes sandra culler yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron fraser

1219
01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:09,040
yes robin mckamey yes
ellie collins yes thomas prompted

1220
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:09,040
yes all eyes motion pass thank you

1221
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:19,199
all right next i put into a form of a
motion to appropriate thirty thousand

1222
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:22,800
dollars from the cares act funding
to give additional funds to the carter

1223
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:28,960
county rescue squad to cover the cost of
additional expenses due to cover 19.

1224
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:33,840
second motion mark first motion by mr
jane sega by mr blevins

1225
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,840
any discussion

1226
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:42,560
seeing no hands raised madam park call
roll please

1227
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,560
willie campbell

1228
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:50,880
sorry mark blevins yes
robert a kev abstain for calls i'm on

1229
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:59,360
the board
nancy brown yes mike mike hill

1230
01:41:55,199 --> 01:42:03,040
yes julie gwen yes
bradley johnson yeah

1231
01:42:03,679 --> 01:42:15,040
sorry mark caster yes charles von cannon
yes isaiah grandstay yes

1232
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:17,360
jerry prophet yes austin james
yes

1233
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:29,760
i'm sorry ross garland yes laila ward
yes ginger holdren yes

1234
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:38,159
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yeah travis hill yes sandra culler

1235
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:44,639
yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey

1236
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:51,119
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes all right

1237
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:54,719
motion pass thank you all right
next i'll put in the form of a motion to

1238
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:58,320
appropriate fifteen thousand dollars to
the second harvest food bank

1239
01:42:56,320 --> 01:43:01,760
for the backpack program funding to come
from the general fund

1240
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:05,840
unassigned fund balance and the amount
of 10 000 and reallocation of

1241
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:10,000
contribution to the carter county honor
guard

1242
01:43:06,719 --> 01:43:15,199
at 5 000.
second motion by mr james second by mr

1243
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:22,960
bailey any discussion
yes uh mr chairman hill

1244
01:43:18,639 --> 01:43:22,960
yes sir mr von cannon i spoke to

1245
01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:29,040
the three gentlemen that are now
representing the honor guard from carter

1246
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:34,239
county but they had to join the honor
guard from washington county

1247
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:38,800
but they serve here
something has happened in that whole

1248
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:41,119
organization and before we fund anybody
i think

1249
01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:46,159
we need to get the county attorney to
try to sort out

1250
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:50,719
what's going on the van that
was used to haul the people is no longer

1251
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:55,760
available
there's uh there's just numerous things

1252
01:43:53,199 --> 01:44:02,320
about that situation that
that uh it doesn't

1253
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:06,880
that would leave us holding the bag with
something

1254
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:13,040
i i want to know before i would vote for
what's going on because

1255
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:17,920
uh they just it's not something is wrong
with that situation

1256
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:22,400
mr von cannon and
and it involves the van it involves the

1257
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:27,440
weapons
uh who else has been involved in this mr

1258
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:32,880
von cannon
who else knows about the uh the

1259
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:38,560
ascension within the group
charlie when mr james

1260
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:42,639
we're we are actually we're we're
pulling the money from the honor guard

1261
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:45,199
because they have dissolved or something
of that nature they've never picked

1262
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:49,280
their money up
so since we're already getting ready to

1263
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:53,840
flip to the budget time we're taking and
moving it to the second harvest food

1264
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:56,320
bank because we've never funded them and
she come in

1265
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:59,679
and requested and said they deliver over
two million pounds of food in carter

1266
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:02,000
county every year i believe that was
correct

1267
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:04,800
and so we thought it was necessary that
we ought to try to back up and give them

1268
01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:09,280
something for
last year to help with this am i

1269
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:13,679
permitted to make a motion that the
county attorney look into this because

1270
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:19,199
it is it's serious
from what i've seen and i didn't see

1271
01:45:16,719 --> 01:45:24,000
enough of it to know for sure but i know
i know i saw enough to know

1272
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:28,560
that we used to have six or seven honor
guard people come to a funeral

1273
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:32,080
charles they're taking the money away
from them

1274
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:35,040
they're taking the money away from the
garden

1275
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:38,159
from the honor garden then that's the
city that's the problem

1276
01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:45,040
we're taking the money away because
there is no honor guarding you you've

1277
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:49,679
still got
the people in carter county that are

1278
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:58,000
serving on the honor guard
marlo uh is one

1279
01:45:54,560 --> 01:46:05,679
the sailor whatever he is
and kelly green seems to be out of it

1280
01:46:02,719 --> 01:46:08,159
he's the guy that had to do it but they
uh

1281
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:11,440
they have to check their weapon they
have to go to johnson city to get the

1282
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:19,440
weapons
come back they don't have a van they did

1283
01:46:14,639 --> 01:46:27,840
ask a mayor about the white van
that's sitting on the lot a lot of times

1284
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:27,840
if that would be available but

1285
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:33,760
mr hardin if you don't care could you
look into that and uh

1286
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:36,639
get with mr von cannon and figure out
what's going on here

1287
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:43,840
i know yes sir i will draw my second
travis let's just go

1288
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:52,800
i just know something's not right
because there's too many too much

1289
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:55,280
floating around out there some of it's
got to be true somebody's trying to

1290
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,800
breathe
oh okay so we don't have a second

1291
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:04,320
anymore does anybody want a second mr
james motion

1292
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,320
i'll say it think about mr frazier

1293
01:47:04,639 --> 01:47:11,520
any discussion now is there any way i
mean we're taking that 15

1294
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:15,199
from the honor guard and basically given
to second harvest is that what we're

1295
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:19,040
trying to do
yes we're they they have apparently

1296
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:21,760
dissolved or something but for the last
two years they have not come in and

1297
01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:24,159
picked their money up so since we're
getting ready to go to it no whole

1298
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:27,440
another budget cycle
this money is still sitting there so you

1299
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:29,920
know you were sitting there the other
night on the second harvest food bank

1300
01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:33,600
come in and tell us how many millions of
pounds they provide to carter county so

1301
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:36,639
we're trying to back back up and make up
for some of those years that we didn't

1302
01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:40,960
get them funded and we're going to fund
them moving forward

1303
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:44,639
hopefully i i understand that is there
any way we can just take

1304
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:48,400
15 from unassigned and then just just
keep the 15 for honor guard just in case

1305
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:51,440
something comes out of that
in the book i mean i think we could i

1306
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:54,719
think we could just
give an appropriation when if they come

1307
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:58,000
and request some money i don't think
we'll ever deny the honor guard money

1308
01:47:56,719 --> 01:48:00,639
i think we should just wait until a
formal group comes and requests some

1309
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:03,920
money
and one thing that one thing that people

1310
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:07,920
have to understand is the money that we
had approved to give to them is to an

1311
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:12,719
organization that no longer exists
negative it does exist well we were we

1312
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:17,920
were told that it had been this
american legion right but this is

1313
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:21,840
specifically for that honor guard well
i understand what you're saying but

1314
01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:27,440
although the honor guard
has been abolished that doesn't mean

1315
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:30,800
that it won't be reorganized
but what you've said is they can get the

1316
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:34,400
money up on request
correct they can come back and they can

1317
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:38,639
do a bunch of requests
they have a reserve now i mean the money

1318
01:48:36,719 --> 01:48:41,920
is on hand that doesn't mean that the
american legion has it in their account

1319
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:46,400
this is just doing
carter counties yeah this this is still

1320
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:50,320
money it's in carter county jerry
it had been appropriated but they never

1321
01:48:48,639 --> 01:48:54,159
had come in and actually
normally got it and done the step what

1322
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:56,960
all it took else to get it so
it's been sitting there for the past two

1323
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,760
years so we're trying to move it around
to do something with it and if they come

1324
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:03,440
in and request some more
then we can appropriate something at

1325
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:09,840
that time for them
there's 5 000 veterans in this county

1326
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:17,119
you've got to take care of somebody
as you know they serve their time

1327
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:20,560
and they deserve they deserve a military
funeral if that's what they desire

1328
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:31,440
mr chair they're still yes mr burns
because these people are from florida

1329
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:37,920
county that i went to
uh the

1330
01:49:34,719 --> 01:49:46,239
funeral of al king
and they were there four of them

1331
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,239
generally there's six or eight

1332
01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:53,840
and one of them was a graduating on
military leave

1333
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:59,040
and they recruited him a marine
but that was shy of what they normally

1334
01:49:58,159 --> 01:50:02,880
would be
given as a military funeral

1335
01:50:03,199 --> 01:50:10,480
burke you're recognized okay thank you
uh just a little clear

1336
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:14,320
clarification on this uh i have
a couple of men have come in i've talked

1337
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:17,920
to them a couple of times and they're in
the process

1338
01:50:15,679 --> 01:50:23,520
my most recent understanding way of
forming a group

1339
01:50:20,159 --> 01:50:26,639
to uh take over this this very honorable
duty that's provided to the to the

1340
01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:30,080
veterans
um and like somebody said before i

1341
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:33,760
believe or
may not have anyway there was ten

1342
01:50:31,599 --> 01:50:37,440
thousand appropriated in
nineteen twenty and five thousand twenty

1343
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:42,719
twenty one
the county has not paid out anything

1344
01:50:40,639 --> 01:50:47,440
to the honor guard the carter county
honor guard they never

1345
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:49,920
requested anything uh and as this motion
states

1346
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:54,960
the 5 000 will be coming from this
year's budget 2021

1347
01:50:52,159 --> 01:51:00,000
and since the 10 000 from 1920 rolled
into fund balance

1348
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:00,000
that's where the 0.10 is coming from

1349
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:08,800
the problem seems to be between the bmw
the american legion and

1350
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:17,280
the three or four that are serving uh
without any

1351
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:21,840
any any authority with any authority
they're serving because the need is

1352
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:21,840
there

1353
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:27,760
chairman i think you have time i agree
let's let's go for let's call for the

1354
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:30,960
boat
adam clark call the roll please

1355
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:37,360
the motion is uh to appropriate fifteen
thousand dollars the second harvest food

1356
01:51:36,719 --> 01:51:41,760
bank
for the backpack program funding funding

1357
01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:45,119
is to come from the general unassigned
fund balance in the amount of ten

1358
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:49,840
thousand dollars and reallocate
of a contribution to the carter county

1359
01:51:46,719 --> 01:51:49,840
honor guard of five thousand

1360
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:52,800
yes

1361
01:51:53,599 --> 01:52:04,480
willie campbell yes mark blevins yes
robert a cup yes nancy brown

1362
01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:11,360
yes mike hill
no i can't do that julie glenn

1363
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:18,000
yes brandon johnson
yeah mark kester yes

1364
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:23,760
charles von cannon the answer is no
until you can find out who to give it to

1365
01:52:20,719 --> 01:52:30,239
isaiah grant staff yes
jerry prophet no

1366
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:37,199
austin james yes
ross garland yes lady ward

1367
01:52:34,159 --> 01:52:44,320
yes ginger holdren
yes randall jenkins

1368
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:51,599
yes gary bailey yeah
travis hill yes sanja culler

1369
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:59,520
no daniel mcintyre
yes aaron frazier yes

1370
01:52:55,119 --> 01:53:06,159
robin mckamey yes kelly collins
yes thomas prophet

1371
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:10,560
yes 20 eyes
question pass thank you next we'll put

1372
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:13,280
into
all right if everybody wants to move

1373
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:16,239
into their budget amendments we're into
there now

1374
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:18,800
well austin's pulling that up guys make
a statement to say that i don't think

1375
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:21,679
anybody on this commission is going to
deny the honor guard money if they come

1376
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:25,520
requested
no and the only thing to back up and

1377
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:29,040
give a little more insight i'm
getting picked up from brad the ten

1378
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:32,080
thousand dollars out of the
appropriation had done roll back into

1379
01:53:30,719 --> 01:53:35,679
the general fund so they wouldn't
if i understand correctly from brad not

1380
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:40,239
able to request that anyway so it's five
thousand dollars is what we had moved

1381
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:42,800
and now it's getting ready to end this
you know when we

1382
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:46,639
wrap this budget up this year it would
roll back into the general fund so

1383
01:53:44,639 --> 01:53:51,840
you know if they have a request for this
coming year i don't you know i'm i don't

1384
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:51,840
think anybody's going to deny that

1385
01:53:53,440 --> 01:53:58,080
all right if everybody's ready we're
going to move into the amendments now

1386
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:03,840
all right first i put in the form of a
motion to approve general fund 101

1387
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:09,280
budget amendment number 10
uh for a total of 93

1388
01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:12,800
seven dollars and three cents with
seventy six thousand and eighteen

1389
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:18,239
dollars and three cents coming from
reserve fund balance and zero coming

1390
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,239
from the unassigned fund balance

1391
01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:29,280
motion by mr james
go a second second by mr garland

1392
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,280
any discussion

1393
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:37,040
hearing none madam clerk call the role
please willie campbell yes

1394
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:44,080
mark blavins yeah robert a cup
yes nancy brown yes

1395
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:51,760
i keel yes julie glenn
yes bradley johnson yeah

1396
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:58,719
mark tester josh von cannon yes
i said grind staff yes

1397
01:54:54,960 --> 01:55:05,520
jerry prophet austin james
yes boss garland yes

1398
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:13,360
may the ward
ginger holden yes randall jenkins

1399
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:21,040
yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes sandra culler

1400
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:28,480
yes daniel mcintyre yes
ann fraser yes robin mckamey

1401
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:35,040
yes kelly collins yes
thomas yes

1402
01:55:32,159 --> 01:55:38,560
motion pass thank you all right next i
put information

1403
01:55:36,159 --> 01:55:42,320
form of a motion to approve solid waste
sanitation fund number 116 budget

1404
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:45,760
amendment number four
for a total of nine thousand dollars

1405
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:49,840
with nothing coming from unassigned fund
balance

1406
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:53,520
second question by mr jane's second by
mr bailey any discussion

1407
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:56,880
[Music]
hearing none madam quote call the roll

1408
01:55:54,719 --> 01:56:04,239
please
willie campbell uh mark blevins oh

1409
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:11,360
robert a cuff yes nancy brown
yes mike hill yes

1410
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:18,080
julie glenn yes bradley johnson
yeah mark kester yes

1411
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:27,599
von cannon yes isaiah grandstand
yes jerry prophet here austin james

1412
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:35,599
yes i'm scarlet yes bailey award
ginger holden yes randall jenkins

1413
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:43,199
yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes sandra culler

1414
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:50,400
yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey

1415
01:56:46,719 --> 01:56:57,199
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes all eyes

1416
01:56:54,000 --> 01:57:00,719
motion pass thank you all right next
i'll put into a form of a motion to

1417
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:08,560
approve the highway public's work fund
number 131 budget amendment number four

1418
01:57:03,679 --> 01:57:14,159
for a total of 68 477.50
with nothing coming from phone balance

1419
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:20,480
motion by mr james tag about miss brown
any discussion

1420
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:20,480
anymore call the roll please

1421
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:31,599
willie campbell yes mark blevins yes
robert aka yes nancy brown

1422
01:57:28,239 --> 01:57:38,880
yes mike hill yes
isaiah julie gwen yes

1423
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:47,119
brandon johnson yeah mark tester
yes crossbone cannon yes isaac ryan

1424
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:54,960
yes jay prophet yes austin james
yes ross garland yes bailey ward

1425
01:57:51,199 --> 01:58:01,840
yes ginger hogan yes
randall jenkins yes gary bailey

1426
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:10,159
yeah travis hill yes
sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre

1427
01:58:05,599 --> 01:58:17,520
yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes

1428
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:22,480
thomas prophet yes all eyes
motion pass thank you all right next i

1429
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:25,599
put into a form of a motion to approve
the general purpose school fund number

1430
01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:31,520
141
amendment 8 a for a total of 177

1431
01:58:32,199 --> 01:58:38,159
607.17 with nothing coming from fund
balance

1432
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:41,760
second aaron motioned by mr james second
by mr frazier any discussion

1433
01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:49,199
ain't none madam clerk call the roll
please

1434
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:55,760
lily campbell yes mark blevins
yeah robert aka yes

1435
01:58:52,480 --> 01:59:02,560
nancy brown yes ikeal
yes julie glenn yes

1436
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:09,119
bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes charles von cannon yes

1437
01:59:05,679 --> 01:59:17,840
i see a grandstand yes jerry crawford
yes austin james yes

1438
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:17,840
ross garland yes

1439
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:28,880
yes randall jenkins yes
gary bailey yes travis hill

1440
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:37,440
yes roger color yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron fraser

1441
01:59:32,639 --> 01:59:37,440
yes robin mccamey yes

1442
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:45,840
yes that's profit yes
motion pass thank you

1443
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:52,480
i put into a form of a motion to
appropriate general purpose school fund

1444
01:59:49,599 --> 01:59:57,280
number 141 budget amendment number nine
for a total of five hundred thousand and

1445
01:59:54,560 --> 02:00:00,719
fifteen dollars and ninety four cents
thirty six thousand four hundred and

1446
01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:04,560
thirty seven dollars and fifty cents
coming from a reserve

1447
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:07,760
fund balance and twenty six thousand
four hundred and thirty seven dollars

1448
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:12,159
and fifty cents coming from unassigned
fund balance

1449
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:15,280
second motion by mr james take it by mr
bailey any discussion

1450
02:00:15,679 --> 02:00:22,080
hearing none madame clark call the roll
please willie

1451
02:00:18,719 --> 02:00:28,719
willie campbell yes mark blandon yeah
robert aka yes nancy brown

1452
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:35,520
yes mike hill
julie gwen yes bradley johnson

1453
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:42,960
yeah mark tester yes
trust montanan yes isaiah grandstaff

1454
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:46,800
yes austin james
yes ross garland

1455
02:00:50,400 --> 02:01:02,159
ross carlin layla ward
yesterday ginger holden yes

1456
02:00:58,239 --> 02:01:08,960
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill yes

1457
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:16,960
sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre
yes ann fraser yes robin mckamey

1458
02:01:13,119 --> 02:01:26,320
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes ross garland

1459
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:29,360
yes all eyes motion pass thank you
all right next i put into a form of a

1460
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:33,920
motion
to approve school federal projects fund

1461
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:37,199
number 142
amendment number nine for a total of six

1462
02:01:36,639 --> 02:01:41,280
million
seven hundred and sixty seven thousand

1463
02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:43,679
four hundred and forty two dollars and
fifty eight

1464
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:49,119
cents with nothing coming from
unassigned fund balance

1465
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:53,199
thank you aaron frazier promotion by mr
jane's second by mr frazier any

1466
02:01:50,639 --> 02:01:53,199
discussion

1467
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:59,040
hearing none madam clerk call the role
please willie campbell

1468
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:11,360
robert yes nancy brown yes
mike hill yes julie glenn

1469
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:19,360
yes bradley johnson yeah
mark tester yes trust von cannon yes

1470
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:23,760
isaiah grandstaff yes
yes austin james yes

1471
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,640
yes
[Music]

1472
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:40,560
yes dan layla ward
yes kids are hungry yes

1473
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:46,800
rainbow tintins yes okay
yeah travis hill yes

1474
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,800
100 color

1475
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:59,440
yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes

1476
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:03,679
false prophet yes all eyes
motion pass thank you all right next i

1477
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:07,960
put into a form of a motion to approve
head start fund number 145

1478
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:12,639
budget amendment number 4 for a total of
284

1479
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:15,840
928 and 51 cents with nothing coming
from unassigned fund balance

1480
02:03:16,239 --> 02:03:21,040
motion by mr james take about mr blevins
any discussion

1481
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:32,080
hearing none man call the role please
willie campbell yes mark ravens yes

1482
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:39,599
robert de cup yes nancy brown
yes ikeal yes

1483
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:46,960
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
yeah mark kester yes

1484
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:53,520
charles von cannon yes isaiah grindstaff
yes yes austin james

1485
02:03:50,400 --> 02:04:01,119
yes ross garland yes
taylor board andrew holdren

1486
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:07,840
yes randall jenkins yes
jerry bailey yes travis hill

1487
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:15,360
yes john your color guest
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier

1488
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:19,280
yes robert mckamey yes
kelly collins yes

1489
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:27,520
yes all eyes motion pass thank you all
right

1490
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:31,119
next i put into a form of a motion to uh
approve the following monetary donations

1491
02:04:29,679 --> 02:04:33,520
to the animal shelter in the amount of
one thousand one hundred and seventy

1492
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:39,679
dollars
secondary motion by mr james second by

1493
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:43,360
mr frazier any discussion
hearing none madame clark call the roll

1494
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:51,440
please willie campbell yes
mark blevins yes robert a cat

1495
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:58,320
yes thank you brown yes michael
julie glenn yes

1496
02:04:54,639 --> 02:05:04,840
bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes charles von cannon yes

1497
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:12,239
isaiah grindstaff yes great prophet
yes austin james

1498
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:20,079
ross garland yes layla ward
yes ginger holdren yes

1499
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:27,360
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill yes

1500
02:05:23,199 --> 02:05:37,360
sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre
yes ann fraser yes robin mckamey

1501
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:37,360
yes yes

1502
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:44,800
yes promotion past thank you
all right next i put in form of a motion

1503
02:05:43,199 --> 02:05:48,000
to approve
the non-monetary donations from walmart

1504
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:53,760
made to the animal
shelter for approximate value of 349.45

1505
02:05:55,280 --> 02:06:03,599
i'll second it motion by mr james sega
by mr tester

1506
02:06:00,159 --> 02:06:07,199
any discussion
here you know madame carter call the

1507
02:06:04,639 --> 02:06:14,159
roll please willie campbell
yes mark blevins yes

1508
02:06:10,639 --> 02:06:21,360
robert daycare yes nancy brown
yes mike hill yes

1509
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:25,199
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
yes mark tester

1510
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:38,239
mark kester yes charles von cannon yes
isaiah grandstaff yes jerry prophet

1511
02:06:35,199 --> 02:06:45,360
yes austin james yes
ross garland yes bailey ward

1512
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:53,520
yes ginger holder yes
randall jenkins yes gary bailey

1513
02:06:49,199 --> 02:07:00,320
yeah travis hill yes conjure color
yes danny mcintyre yes

1514
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:07,040
and frasier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes

1515
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:12,320
thomas prophet allies
promotion pass thank you all right

1516
02:07:10,159 --> 02:07:15,920
that's all we have for budget um i'll
just let everybody know that we're

1517
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:19,040
having to flex some of the dates around
uh for the budget hearings and so when

1518
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:23,520
we get
uh i've sent a thing around for the

1519
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:26,400
budget committee to look at
i'm gonna give it a couple more days if

1520
02:07:25,119 --> 02:07:29,520
i don't have any more responses and
everybody's fine with it i'm gonna send

1521
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:32,639
it around everybody review so
if you have any questions or something

1522
02:07:30,639 --> 02:07:35,840
just let me know
thank you chairman james next we'll move

1523
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:38,719
on to the nominated committee with uh
chairman for asians

1524
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:46,320
all right ladies and gentlemen um got
several to go through tonight so i'll

1525
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:53,199
try to be as quick as we possibly can
um first up on the list would be

1526
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:57,440
a nomination for the county historian
miss lisa jermaine and i will put that

1527
02:07:56,079 --> 02:07:59,920
into a form of motion that we approve
lisa jermaine as the new accounting

1528
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:04,000
historian second
mike hill district motion by mr frazier

1529
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:11,040
second by
commissioner hill any discussion

1530
02:08:08,079 --> 02:08:11,040
excellent choice

1531
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,960
hearing none madam clark call the role
please

1532
02:08:15,199 --> 02:08:25,440
willie campbell yes mark ravens
yes robert a cup yes

1533
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:32,639
nancy brown yes hill
yes julie glenn yes

1534
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:39,119
bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes yes

1535
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:48,320
isaac run staff yes
jerry prophet yeah austin james yes

1536
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:55,920
ross garland yes laila ward
ginger holdren yes randall jenkins

1537
02:08:52,880 --> 02:09:03,280
yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes andrea culler

1538
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:10,480
yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey

1539
02:09:06,719 --> 02:09:17,199
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes

1540
02:09:14,239 --> 02:09:20,400
all guys all right thank you guys next
up on the list would be

1541
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:24,480
two reappointments and one new
appointment to the equalization board

1542
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:26,800
uh first up on the list would be
reappointment of richard todd smith to

1543
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:30,159
the
to the equalization board now put that

1544
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:36,320
in the form of a motion
second motion by mr frazier second my mr

1545
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:40,800
von cannon to reappoint todd smith to
the equalization board

1546
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:40,800
any discussion

1547
02:09:41,119 --> 02:09:54,159
hearing none madam call the roll please
willie campbell yes mark blavins yeah

1548
02:09:50,560 --> 02:10:01,679
robert ako yes nancy brown
yes mike hill yes

1549
02:09:57,679 --> 02:10:08,239
julie glenn yes bradley johnson
yeah mark tester

1550
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:15,520
yes trust von cannon yes
isaiah grant staff yes

1551
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:22,400
yes austin james yes
ross garland yes

1552
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:29,119
laila board yes ginger holdren
yes randall jenkins

1553
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:36,800
yes aaron bailey yes
travis hill yes sandra culler

1554
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:44,159
yes daniel mcintyre yes
ann fraser yes robin mckamey

1555
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:47,920
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes

1556
02:10:51,040 --> 02:11:00,480
thank you guys uh next up on the list
would be the

1557
02:10:55,440 --> 02:11:00,480
reappointment of deborah sam's

1558
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:08,480
to the equalization board and i put that
into a form of a motion

1559
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:11,440
second motion by mr frazier think about
mr james for the reappointment of

1560
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:15,280
deborah samps with equalization board
any discussion

1561
02:11:14,079 --> 02:11:21,440
hearing none might have worked call the
role please willie campbell

1562
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:29,040
yes mark blevins yeah robert daycare
yes nathan brown yes ikeal

1563
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:36,159
yes julie glenn yes
bradley johnson yeah mark tester

1564
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:43,679
yes charles von cannon yes
isaiah grandstaff yes jerry prophet

1565
02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:47,440
yes austin james yes
ross garland yes

1566
02:11:48,880 --> 02:12:00,320
ginger hildren yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes travis hill

1567
02:11:57,040 --> 02:12:06,719
yes sandra culler yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier

1568
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:13,760
yes robin mckamey yes
kelly collins yes

1569
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:13,760
thomas prophet yes

1570
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:21,840
who seconded that uh austin james

1571
02:12:23,199 --> 02:12:28,079
thank you guys next up on the list would
be the appointment a

1572
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:32,560
new appointment of blaine the canvas to
the equalization board and i put that

1573
02:12:29,599 --> 02:12:32,560
into a form of emotion

1574
02:12:33,199 --> 02:12:42,480
second a motion by mr fraser second by
mr james for the appointment of

1575
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:49,199
blame mcamis to the equalization board
any discussion hearing none madam part

1576
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:55,840
call the role please
willie campbell yes mark blevins

1577
02:12:52,560 --> 02:13:03,840
no robert a kid
yes nancy brown yes

1578
02:12:59,679 --> 02:13:10,480
mike hill yes julie gwen
yes bradley johnson yeah

1579
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:18,800
mark tester yes charles von cannon
yes isaiah grant staff yes

1580
02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:24,880
very prophet nope austin james
yes ross garland yes

1581
02:13:22,159 --> 02:13:24,880
later ward

1582
02:13:25,199 --> 02:13:36,960
ginger holdren yes randall jenkins
yes mary bailey yes

1583
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:44,400
travis hill yes sandra culler
yes daniel mcintyre yes

1584
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:54,079
ann frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes

1585
02:13:48,639 --> 02:13:54,079
thomas prophet yes 22 eyes

1586
02:13:55,199 --> 02:14:00,480
next up on the agenda is the appointment
of the

1587
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:04,800
commissioner for the second district of
the planning commission

1588
02:14:02,639 --> 02:14:08,400
uh nominee was kenneth shell and i put
that into a form of a motion

1589
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:13,119
oh i'm sorry that's incorrect that is
steve stevenson

1590
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:16,960
is the nominee thank you stevenson is
the nominee

1591
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:21,840
promotion by mr frazier second by miss
brown

1592
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:21,840
any discussion

1593
02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:29,040
ain't none madam clerk call please if
you don't care start with the second

1594
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:32,159
district please
second yeah start with a second then go

1595
02:14:31,599 --> 02:14:40,320
do the rest
okay nancy brown yes

1596
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:42,639
my kill yes julie quinn
yes

1597
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:50,480
yes mark blevins yeah
robert aka yes

1598
02:14:50,880 --> 02:15:02,079
brad bradley johnson yeah mark taster
yes trust von cannon yes

1599
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:02,079
isaiah grandstay no

1600
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:12,880
jerry crockett yes austin james
ross garland yes layla ward

1601
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:25,520
ginger holden yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes

1602
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:31,679
travis hill yes sonja color
yes daniel mcinturf

1603
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:39,199
yes aaron frazier yes
robin mckamey yes

1604
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:41,440
kelly collins yes thomas prophet
yes

1605
02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:50,880
chairman hill uh before we go for the
third district of point

1606
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:54,560
e um i would like a uh
ruling by the county attorney we haven't

1607
02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:58,639
called for any
nominations from the floor but i think

1608
02:15:56,400 --> 02:16:04,480
there will be one for the third district
that vote was close coming out of

1609
02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:08,000
nominations it was 5-3 all right
i certainly want to nominate jerry

1610
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:12,480
piermann
and have since that vote was so close to

1611
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:15,679
have the entire commission vote on that
position

1612
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:21,599
okay attorney harden do you want to
address that

1613
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:24,480
sure the nominating committee is is
giving their recommendation of course

1614
02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:29,599
but there can be
nominations from the floor if there are

1615
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:33,040
any others interested to be nominated
josh since we know there's going to be

1616
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:35,840
one should it not become as a motion
from the nominating commission we just

1617
02:16:34,319 --> 02:16:40,719
open it up for nominations right off the
top or how do we do that

1618
02:16:38,479 --> 02:16:44,000
uh no i think the chairman of the
nominating committee

1619
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:49,200
can certainly give the recommendation of
the nominating committee and report that

1620
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:52,080
to the full commission here but uh after
that nomination

1621
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:57,599
a recommendation is made then then you
can open the floor for nominations

1622
02:16:53,679 --> 02:17:00,960
okay mark how did you vote
am i okay to proceed mr hill i think

1623
02:16:59,599 --> 02:17:08,080
she's still checking on the vote on
stevenson okay

1624
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:11,519
okay 22 eyes motion pass thank you
all right next up would be the planning

1625
02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:17,760
commission
seat for the third district the uh

1626
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:20,719
nominating committee voted as mr akov
said

1627
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:29,840
five to three for robert burrow and that
is i put forth his name as a

1628
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:29,840
motion second mark tester

1629
02:17:30,559 --> 02:17:36,160
we have robert burrow do we want to open
up the floor to nominations

1630
02:17:34,559 --> 02:17:39,040
yes sir if there is others that would
like to nominate they're more than

1631
02:17:37,599 --> 02:17:42,960
welcome to do so
uh chairman he'll i nominate jerry

1632
02:17:41,519 --> 02:17:50,160
pearman
dr acuff has nominated jerry pearlman

1633
02:17:46,319 --> 02:17:54,399
any further nominations make emotionally
ceased

1634
02:17:51,359 --> 02:17:54,399
hey we have a motion to seize

1635
02:17:54,840 --> 02:18:01,439
nominations
okay saying about mr blevins any

1636
02:17:59,599 --> 02:18:05,040
discussion
madam clerk call the roll to cease

1637
02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:18,479
nomination
billy campbell yes mark blevins

1638
02:18:15,359 --> 02:18:25,679
yes robert a care yes
nancy brown yes mike hill

1639
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:32,639
yes julie glenn yes
bradley johnson yeah mark tester

1640
02:18:29,359 --> 02:18:39,920
yes trump spun cannon yes
isaiah grindstaff yes jerry prophet

1641
02:18:36,319 --> 02:18:47,519
yes austin james yes
ross garland yes layla ward

1642
02:18:43,599 --> 02:18:54,719
yes ginger holden yes
randall jenkins yes gary bailey

1643
02:18:51,519 --> 02:19:03,200
yes travis hill yes
andrew culler yes daniel mcintyre

1644
02:18:58,880 --> 02:19:11,760
yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes

1645
02:19:06,479 --> 02:19:15,359
thomas prophet yes all eyes
pass two seconds

1646
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:22,160
you did no mark did on the on the
russian so we have two

1647
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:26,080
two nominees for the third district that
being jerry pearman

1648
02:19:23,439 --> 02:19:28,880
and robert burrow so as a clerk call
your name please state the name of the

1649
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:33,359
person you want to see
chairman yes chairman he or commissioner

1650
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:37,120
hill
yes sir i would just like to ask if mr

1651
02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:42,800
daniel smith
is actually with us tonight online i

1652
02:19:40,399 --> 02:19:45,760
am in the receipt of a an interestingly
worded letter from

1653
02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:49,600
daniel smith and i reached out to my
friend daniel smith who

1654
02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:52,479
coincidentally lives in this district
and he assured me that he wrote no such

1655
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:56,240
letter
um there were assurances in the letter

1656
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:59,760
that that said that
mr smith whoever the author was would be

1657
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:03,359
with us tonight
and i just wondered if if we could

1658
02:20:01,359 --> 02:20:17,840
recognize that individual
third daniel smith are you online

1659
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:17,840
you are recognized if you are to speak

1660
02:20:18,399 --> 02:20:26,319
hearing nobody commissioner hill i do
not think he is online

1661
02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:30,319
chairman commissioner james
yes mr james um i think before we take

1662
02:20:28,960 --> 02:20:34,160
the vote uh we
maybe should ask if either of the rep

1663
02:20:32,399 --> 02:20:36,960
either one of the
people running for the physicians here

1664
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:41,680
would like to speak or if there's
anybody want to speak on their behalf

1665
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:45,840
okay is mr burrow or mr pearman either
one with us in attendance tonight

1666
02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:55,200
hearing nobody is any commissioners or
anybody in the public would like to

1667
02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:55,200
speak on their behalf

1668
02:20:56,000 --> 02:21:03,680
chairman hill i'll speak on uh mr
pearman's behalf

1669
02:20:59,439 --> 02:21:09,760
okay go ahead dr uh thank you sir um
even though uh and it's regrettable

1670
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:14,560
that we received a letter it's the first
letter i've ever received

1671
02:21:11,439 --> 02:21:17,840
or seen in my almost seven years as a
commissioner

1672
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:22,080
that there weren't multiple signatures
to that

1673
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:28,000
objection for mr pearman to repeat
on the planning commission i find that

1674
02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:31,040
very questionable and dubious
number of issues that have come to me

1675
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:36,240
where
constituents have filed letters

1676
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:40,800
many have signed it and put their
signatures to that to attest

1677
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:44,240
to the fact that they supported that
issue

1678
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:49,359
the letter that came before us or before
the nominating kit committee did

1679
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:56,800
not contain anything but
the third district um individuals

1680
02:21:52,720 --> 02:22:01,359
of concern or some manufacturing thereof
uh i will speak on jerry's behalf in

1681
02:21:59,840 --> 02:22:05,359
that he spends a lot of time at the
planning commission he goes out with

1682
02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:11,680
with the staff down there if it weren't
for commissioner brad johnson

1683
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:14,960
and um jerry pearman we probably would
not have

1684
02:22:12,399 --> 02:22:19,040
a viable code enforcement in this county
i know commissioner johnson did

1685
02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:24,000
your person's work in that as a heavy
lift but jerry was also

1686
02:22:21,439 --> 02:22:27,280
there supporting that effort now whether
you believe

1687
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:32,560
things were handled appropriately
hopefully we've put that behind us

1688
02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:35,200
there is question to that but we know
why that was done

1689
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:40,479
because of the fact that the commission
didn't honor its agreement

1690
02:22:36,880 --> 02:22:43,920
with with director schuler so i think
the issue comes that jerry is still

1691
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:48,160
supportive
he's a very good uh chair of the

1692
02:22:46,880 --> 02:22:51,280
planning commission
and works very well with the planning uh

1693
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:55,359
commission
office thank you chair thank you anyone

1694
02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:59,439
else
uh chairman hill um i'd like to speak on

1695
02:22:57,600 --> 02:23:04,319
in a little bit uh
i know we all have had our indifferences

1696
02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:08,560
over the last little bit of time with
uh with his position and everything but

1697
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:11,600
you know i didn't realize
i guess myself for the last few coming

1698
02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:15,680
weeks
and mr pimera put in as much time as

1699
02:23:13,600 --> 02:23:19,280
what he does over there
you know when being on the commission i

1700
02:23:18,399 --> 02:23:22,240
understand
how important it is when you have a

1701
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:24,880
commission that puts in the time and
when you have a commissioner that

1702
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:27,520
doesn't put in the time
you know when you have somebody picking

1703
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:31,439
up the site for everybody else it takes
a lot

1704
02:23:28,479 --> 02:23:33,920
um you know miss uh kristen works over
there i don't know if she's on here or

1705
02:23:32,479 --> 02:23:36,960
not but she might be able to tell you
too

1706
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:40,880
you know pierman spent three hours over
in the office the other day

1707
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:44,399
prepping her and getting her ready for
her first day of court to do litter

1708
02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:48,880
violation cases
that she had never done before and

1709
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:52,080
nobody else came in and offered to help
with that

1710
02:23:50,319 --> 02:23:56,399
and then when we were short staffed but
due to the covet issue we had over there

1711
02:23:54,880 --> 02:24:00,160
from my understanding pyramid coming and
worked in the office

1712
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:05,439
um to make sure that we was able to
still keep the office running

1713
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:08,560
uh you know i mean granted we've had
some

1714
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:12,720
issues and problems and i get that but
at the same point in time

1715
02:24:11,200 --> 02:24:16,640
you know what kind of position or shape
might we be in in the event that

1716
02:24:14,960 --> 02:24:20,000
we put somebody else there that's not
willing to put forth the same amount of

1717
02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:28,000
effort
but that's all okay thank you mr james

1718
02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:31,600
anybody else
hearing nobody else we'll go ahead and

1719
02:24:29,520 --> 02:24:35,840
call for the vote uh madam clerk if
you'll start with the third district

1720
02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:38,800
please and then work through the rest
bradley johnson

1721
02:24:40,479 --> 02:24:43,280
mark tester

1722
02:24:49,359 --> 02:24:52,160
willie campbell

1723
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:58,640
mark blavin's robert a cup

1724
02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:07,920
nancy brown burra
mike hill hereman

1725
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:13,280
julie glenn burrow

1726
02:25:15,040 --> 02:25:28,640
isaiah grandstaff burrow
jerry prophet austin james

1727
02:25:24,560 --> 02:25:35,439
airman ross garland
burrow layla ward

1728
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:43,359
murrow ginger holdren
earl randall jenkins

1729
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:48,080
burrow gary bailey pearl
travis hill sherman

1730
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:56,640
sonja culler hereman
daniel mcintyre burrow

1731
02:25:56,720 --> 02:26:07,100
aaron frazier burrow robin mckamey
[Music]

1732
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:21,840
kelly collins pierman
[Music]

1733
02:26:09,439 --> 02:26:21,840
thomas prophet peter

1734
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:36,800
mr burrow will be the new third district
uh

1735
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:36,800
person on the planet commission

1736
02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:45,040
that is all i have ladies and gentlemen
um aaron come here chairman fraser i did

1737
02:26:42,319 --> 02:26:48,080
speak uh i was made aware of last night
that

1738
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:51,200
the board of uh zoning appeals had two
open spots i spoke with mr

1739
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:57,760
schuler today and he's going to
advertise those for us to address in may

1740
02:26:54,720 --> 02:27:01,200
excellent sir what board was that travis
zoning and appeals i believe that's

1741
02:26:59,359 --> 02:27:04,640
correct is that correct mr johnson
thank you thank you

1742
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:11,920
we'll move on to the landfill committee
with chairman bailey

1743
02:27:12,479 --> 02:27:18,720
let the minute stand for their self hey
thank you

1744
02:27:16,160 --> 02:27:18,720
highway

1745
02:27:20,479 --> 02:27:26,800
thank you uh health and welfare dr
akthous

1746
02:27:24,240 --> 02:27:31,120
thank you chairman uh just a couple of
comments

1747
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:33,280
uh regarding broadband uh the minutes
can

1748
02:27:31,439 --> 02:27:38,640
obviously reflect the discussion of the
meeting but

1749
02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:43,280
we voted um unanimously to ask
for a rollover for matching funds for

1750
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:46,560
rural broadband
of six hundred thousand dollars and i

1751
02:27:45,040 --> 02:27:50,240
know uh
chairman hill said that uh we would

1752
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:54,800
probably
uh through this windfall profit if you

1753
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:59,359
will that comes from the state and other
sources be able to

1754
02:27:57,280 --> 02:28:03,359
earmark some of those funds for rural
band broadband

1755
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:06,479
so we're okay with that i just want to
make sure that we don't lose our place

1756
02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:12,479
at the table
and the second thing now that we know

1757
02:28:10,319 --> 02:28:16,640
carter county schools will also benefit
from the windfall

1758
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:19,520
i would ask that the commission reach
out

1759
02:28:17,359 --> 02:28:24,080
to the superintendent and the school
board and ask them

1760
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:27,600
also to match those funds
so that we can have a corpus of money

1761
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:33,520
that we
uh can go forward with as soon as uh

1762
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:38,000
the grants are released and applied for
probably sometime

1763
02:28:34,720 --> 02:28:42,640
in late july or early august
thank you sir thank you okay we'll move

1764
02:28:41,439 --> 02:28:47,359
on to financial management with
chairwoman holdren

1765
02:28:45,120 --> 02:28:50,560
financial management has not met yet
this month

1766
02:28:48,399 --> 02:28:53,920
we are meeting thursday as commissioner
james stated

1767
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:57,359
the purpose of that meeting will be to
primarily discuss

1768
02:28:55,359 --> 02:29:01,200
the application process that will be
followed

1769
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:05,359
um everybody's welcome if you feel
comfortable meeting in person

1770
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:08,080
uh this coming thursday that's going to
be the biggest thing we have to

1771
02:29:06,880 --> 02:29:13,200
accomplish in the coming
months thank you

1772
02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:17,359
thanks for the education committee with
chairwoman award

1773
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:23,200
well well they need the minutes to
reflect their meeting

1774
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:26,800
okay thank you um building the grounds
uh i'm not sure who's gonna give that

1775
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:33,280
report
i will sir okay thank you um i had to

1776
02:29:30,399 --> 02:29:37,520
fill in for isaiah this month because he
had a sick child

1777
02:29:35,359 --> 02:29:44,720
we do have a couple of things that the
commission needs to vote on this evening

1778
02:29:41,359 --> 02:29:48,479
one of which is uh something that we
voted on previously but there's been a

1779
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:52,800
slight change so we have to vote on it
again

1780
02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:58,319
and that is a donation of land
uh up in the fish springs area

1781
02:29:56,240 --> 02:30:05,840
if attorney hardin wouldn't mind to just
tell the commission why we have to vote

1782
02:30:00,479 --> 02:30:05,840
on that again i would appreciate it

1783
02:30:06,399 --> 02:30:09,359
sure uh

1784
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:15,920
when this was brought before the
commission before

1785
02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:22,160
uh the property that is being donated
was still part of a larger

1786
02:30:18,479 --> 02:30:26,160
tract that had not been subdivided
and the access to that track was off of

1787
02:30:24,960 --> 02:30:30,479
uh
directly off of weathertown road i

1788
02:30:28,960 --> 02:30:35,040
believe it is
anyway since that time uh and and also

1789
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:39,280
at the time the commission voted on it
before

1790
02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:46,399
uh there was no uh restriction
or condition on the gift in terms of uh

1791
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:50,399
naming a park that would be developed
there

1792
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:57,520
uh since uh since that time
a letter came to light that had been

1793
02:30:53,439 --> 02:31:00,880
given uh to former mayor barnett
uh where the church who's donating the

1794
02:30:59,920 --> 02:31:04,640
land
basically said uh that they wanted to

1795
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:09,439
donate
i believe it's uh if i can find that i

1796
02:31:06,880 --> 02:31:14,479
believe it's just over two acres
uh that it has been re-surveyed uh since

1797
02:31:12,319 --> 02:31:18,560
the original
gift was going to be made and there is

1798
02:31:17,200 --> 02:31:22,800
access to it the
40-foot wide easement right away off of

1799
02:31:21,439 --> 02:31:25,840
weathertown road
not so it does not have direct road

1800
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:30,479
frontage
and they want the park named uh

1801
02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:34,640
specifically after
a lady from that community and i don't

1802
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:38,800
have the file in front of me i cannot
remember the lady's name

1803
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:42,640
but maybe one of y'all have it uh so
those those conditions kind of changed

1804
02:31:41,359 --> 02:31:48,319
from the last time it's brought before
the commission so if if approved

1805
02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:55,439
i'll have to get in contact with the
trustees of the church

1806
02:31:50,960 --> 02:31:58,880
and get specifics as to the deed
uh reservations because they've asked it

1807
02:31:58,319 --> 02:32:01,920
that it
revert back to the church in the event

1808
02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:05,200
it's not
utilized as a park uh so we have to

1809
02:32:04,399 --> 02:32:09,439
clarify
a little bit of those terms as far as

1810
02:32:07,520 --> 02:32:13,840
you know the length of time we have to
develop the park

1811
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:19,840
and just exactly what parameters they're
considering at park

1812
02:32:15,680 --> 02:32:23,600
um and then also the uh the access to
make sure that we're granted

1813
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:26,319
you know legal access for the public via
the right of way

1814
02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:32,399
thank you attorney hardin sorry to put
you on the spot like that

1815
02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:39,200
but i knew you would still do a much
better job than i could have done

1816
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:44,399
so the building and grounds committee
did vote to accept the gift when the

1817
02:32:42,399 --> 02:32:49,200
survey is completed giving us that
right-of-way

1818
02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:54,000
uh we did discuss as
attorney hardin pointed out that you

1819
02:32:52,319 --> 02:32:58,080
know they want it to be
hours as long as it's a park so he does

1820
02:32:56,479 --> 02:33:01,280
need to clarify
the length of time they're going to give

1821
02:32:59,359 --> 02:33:04,560
us to do that as mayor would be has
stated

1822
02:33:02,160 --> 02:33:07,439
in the past and parks and rec has stated
we are a little short-handed when it

1823
02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:11,359
comes to
working on our parks so we've got to

1824
02:33:09,359 --> 02:33:14,960
make sure that
we we've got enough time to get this

1825
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:20,000
accomplished before they would want it
to revert back to them

1826
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:23,359
so anyway with that being said i'll
bring it to the commission as a motion

1827
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:28,319
from the
building and grounds committee to accept

1828
02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:35,200
this gift with the new survey completion
for fish springs uh park second

1829
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:41,840
chairman hill aka first motion blind
miss chairman let me clarify uh

1830
02:33:38,479 --> 02:33:45,280
since i found my file uh just for the
record uh the donation is from union

1831
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:48,399
baptist church
that is the owners union baptist church

1832
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:54,800
in hampton
uh the law is 2.112 acres

1833
02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:58,399
they're asking that it be developed as a
park for kids

1834
02:33:56,240 --> 02:34:03,840
in the community and they want it to be
named in memory of

1835
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:03,840
kathleen and ralph smith

1836
02:34:06,479 --> 02:34:13,280
so those those are the conditions that
the gift would have to be accepted on

1837
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:17,680
everybody still good with that ginger
and dr akov

1838
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:21,760
i am i am okay okay any further
discussion

1839
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:25,680
i have one question yes sir mr tester
commissioner is there the feast clause

1840
02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:31,840
in that need
where if it's not used as a park then it

1841
02:34:28,479 --> 02:34:31,840
goes back to the church

1842
02:34:32,479 --> 02:34:39,280
uh that is the proposal that is a
condition that they have offered

1843
02:34:37,600 --> 02:34:44,080
the deed hasn't been prepared yet of
course i would prepare

1844
02:34:40,880 --> 02:34:49,200
the deed uh if if we vote to accept
it but they have requested a reverter

1845
02:34:47,120 --> 02:34:53,200
clause in the deed essentially
that if it is no longer used as a part

1846
02:34:51,520 --> 02:34:58,560
that the property would revert back to
union baptist church

1847
02:34:55,120 --> 02:35:06,399
thank you
anyone else chairman yes sir mr hill

1848
02:35:03,760 --> 02:35:11,280
i've slept since we met but i think i
was a no then because of

1849
02:35:08,479 --> 02:35:13,439
the strings attached to this donation it
seems to me that

1850
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:18,240
if the church wanted this many
stipulations on the the

1851
02:35:15,760 --> 02:35:21,280
gift if you will which isn't really a
gift if there's a string where you can

1852
02:35:19,760 --> 02:35:24,319
jerk it back at some point in time in
the future but

1853
02:35:22,319 --> 02:35:27,280
if they want it developed in the manner
they want it developed

1854
02:35:25,359 --> 02:35:33,200
and they used to be exactly what they
prescribed and that it should be named

1855
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:37,200
as they want it named it seems that
they would probably take that on as a

1856
02:35:34,960 --> 02:35:40,720
project as an organization
and if they wanted the county's support

1857
02:35:38,880 --> 02:35:43,920
they could certainly come to the county
as

1858
02:35:40,960 --> 02:35:46,880
under an outside agency as a non-profit
right along with

1859
02:35:45,200 --> 02:35:51,920
several other non-profits like the
animal rescues and such

1860
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:56,560
and ask for funding to assist in the
development of the park

1861
02:35:53,359 --> 02:35:59,200
uh i can't support thank you
anyone else

1862
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:06,399
hearing none madam clark call the roll
please willie campbell

1863
02:36:03,200 --> 02:36:14,479
aye martin blavin aye
robert yes auntie brown

1864
02:36:10,479 --> 02:36:22,240
yes mike hill oh
julie gwen yes bradley johnson

1865
02:36:18,479 --> 02:36:29,359
yeah mark kester yes
charles von cannon yes isaiah grimes day

1866
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:33,520
no jerry prophet
yes austin james

1867
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:41,439
ross garland no
layla ward

1868
02:36:43,280 --> 02:36:54,399
layla ward no
andrew holdren yes

1869
02:36:51,040 --> 02:37:00,560
randall jenkins yes
gary bailey no

1870
02:36:57,760 --> 02:37:00,560
travis hill

1871
02:37:01,280 --> 02:37:14,399
yes sonja color
yes daniel macon turf yes

1872
02:37:09,760 --> 02:37:22,000
aaron frazier no robin mckamey
yes kelly collins

1873
02:37:17,600 --> 02:37:24,319
no thomas prophet
yes

1874
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:33,840
ma'am clark i'd like to change my vote
to know please

1875
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:33,840
this is sonia mr sanjay yes ma'am

1876
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:52,560
15 yes's eight no's

1877
02:37:58,240 --> 02:38:01,840
motion passed

1878
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:11,200
okay may i continue sir it's ma'am okay
um we also need to vote on another

1879
02:38:09,760 --> 02:38:16,240
donation
um ken good was able to attend our

1880
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:22,240
building and grounds committee meeting
um we have been offered

1881
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:26,240
uh a section of the old twixie railroad
right-of-way between mill pond road in

1882
02:38:24,640 --> 02:38:33,760
valley forge
and railroad street in hampton

1883
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:38,240
um ken googe and mayor would be
and others have walked that section and

1884
02:38:36,800 --> 02:38:43,439
checked it out
uh the trail is in relatively good shape

1885
02:38:40,640 --> 02:38:48,319
the tunnel is also in excellent shape
the bridge crossing over the river is in

1886
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:52,640
terrible condition
and needs lots of work this would extend

1887
02:38:51,439 --> 02:38:57,040
the tweetsie trail
to hampton it would add four and a half

1888
02:38:55,280 --> 02:39:02,720
miles to the trail
and give access to the watershed trails

1889
02:39:00,640 --> 02:39:07,040
uh attorney hardin did caution our
committee that as soon as we take

1890
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:12,800
ownership of this if we accept it
we are responsible for it

1891
02:39:10,399 --> 02:39:17,840
the bridge would have to have signs
warning people

1892
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:24,479
that it's not safe for use
after a slideshow presentation lots of

1893
02:39:22,399 --> 02:39:29,120
pictures and discussion and questions
and so forth

1894
02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:33,920
a motion was made in that committee uh
to accept approximately 28 acres between

1895
02:39:32,319 --> 02:39:38,399
valley forge and hampton
to extend our twitsy trail four and a

1896
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:42,479
half miles
in that committee that night it passed

1897
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:46,560
unanimously
so i bring it to you in the form of a

1898
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:53,040
motion this evening
to accept this gift

1899
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:56,800
to our county and extend our tweetsie
trail

1900
02:39:53,680 --> 02:40:02,479
second all right ground staff
this is a question by miss holder and

1901
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:09,840
second by mr hill any discussion
uh i can't tell who's first mr bailey

1902
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:13,840
miss holden the bridge that you're
talking about

1903
02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:18,840
is was blown up years ago there's only
one little bitty section

1904
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:26,080
right there i mean who's going to be
responsible if

1905
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:26,080
yeah it's not very which we put wide

1906
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:31,520
gary i think you're wrong gary i don't
know if you're talking about the right

1907
02:40:30,319 --> 02:40:35,600
bridge
you know the railroad bridge is gone

1908
02:40:33,680 --> 02:40:38,880
it's the highway bridge that's still
there yeah

1909
02:40:36,640 --> 02:40:43,520
so technically guys there's there's two
highway bridges up there one

1910
02:40:41,200 --> 02:40:47,600
is on the other side of the four lane
and it's almost

1911
02:40:44,880 --> 02:40:51,439
it's almost demolished there's only
you'd have to be

1912
02:40:48,399 --> 02:40:54,720
really really brave to cross it really
brave

1913
02:40:52,880 --> 02:40:58,080
the other one that that we're talking
about it's got

1914
02:40:56,319 --> 02:41:01,359
two sections out of it that's fell
through but there's room to walk around

1915
02:40:59,920 --> 02:41:03,840
and i've walked around i took my son
around it

1916
02:41:02,319 --> 02:41:07,520
you know when he was five years old we
walked around it hasn't changed in years

1917
02:41:06,319 --> 02:41:13,840
it's been that way
for quite some time so

1918
02:41:10,640 --> 02:41:17,279
my question is the bridge is still
if we take ownership of that we got a

1919
02:41:15,760 --> 02:41:22,080
bridge that's got holes in it falling
through are we responsible

1920
02:41:18,960 --> 02:41:25,520
you better believe it it is
i would say nothing more than putting

1921
02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:32,560
some signs up there it's been there for
how many years like that

1922
02:41:28,840 --> 02:41:36,399
liability yes sir mr mcintyre
that was my question for attorney hard

1923
02:41:34,319 --> 02:41:41,200
and i think we should use the resource
we have

1924
02:41:37,439 --> 02:41:45,279
if signs are posted are we still liable
if heaven forbid something does happen

1925
02:41:43,439 --> 02:41:49,840
uh
you know i understand its donation and i

1926
02:41:48,160 --> 02:41:53,439
i'm appreciative of that but
if we're going to be held accountable

1927
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:58,240
for an accident
on that bridge how can we keep that from

1928
02:41:57,359 --> 02:42:02,800
happening
what do we need to go about to keep that

1929
02:42:00,479 --> 02:42:05,760
from happening if the sign postage
is not sufficient

1930
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:10,479
i don't think you're same thing in the
highway portion of it you're accepting

1931
02:42:09,520 --> 02:42:18,319
the right
bridge your ride wave to the tunnel

1932
02:42:15,040 --> 02:42:24,560
back to the railroad trade across the
two pillows that are still there

1933
02:42:21,760 --> 02:42:29,520
it's an excellent idea it's an expensive
idea because from the tunnel

1934
02:42:27,279 --> 02:42:34,640
to the right of way to the west is going
to be

1935
02:42:31,120 --> 02:42:38,160
filled another
a bicycle bridge or whatever

1936
02:42:38,479 --> 02:42:44,880
it's it's a it's a great idea it's it's
just

1937
02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:44,880
expensive idea

1938
02:42:45,279 --> 02:42:48,160
attorney hardin

1939
02:42:50,479 --> 02:42:58,880
yes sir is the sign postage is that
sufficient

1940
02:42:55,520 --> 02:43:05,200
to keep us from any
liabilities definitely not

1941
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:09,279
uh cert certainly the the county could
be

1942
02:43:06,880 --> 02:43:12,640
liable and the county would be sued i'm
sure

1943
02:43:10,240 --> 02:43:17,040
if someone got hurt out there no matter
what you did but

1944
02:43:13,840 --> 02:43:22,399
uh certainly i think what what would be
charged to do is is act

1945
02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:25,439
reasonably and i think it would be more
than just you know nailing up a sign to

1946
02:43:24,319 --> 02:43:29,920
a tree or
something i mean we would have to put

1947
02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:34,880
some physical barrier
there that uh that we were definitely

1948
02:43:33,200 --> 02:43:39,040
discouraging
access to the bridge and it's one thing

1949
02:43:36,960 --> 02:43:43,040
to own it and people
just go there it's another thing to

1950
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:46,080
advertise it and invite people there and
that was kind of the distinction we

1951
02:43:44,800 --> 02:43:50,399
talked about
in the meeting i'm not trying to

1952
02:43:48,640 --> 02:43:54,080
dissuade anybody from
adopting accepting the gift and the gift

1953
02:43:53,680 --> 02:44:01,200
is
no strings attached no conditions

1954
02:43:57,439 --> 02:44:08,960
and it is 27 28 acres along the old
tweezy railroad bed um

1955
02:44:04,880 --> 02:44:12,240
there's there's several easements uh or
utility easements in play there uh i

1956
02:44:11,680 --> 02:44:16,560
think the
the water department or elizabeth and

1957
02:44:14,560 --> 02:44:22,479
water and uh
watauga uh river regional water

1958
02:44:19,920 --> 02:44:27,040
authority has easements and things
through there you couldn't do a lot of

1959
02:44:24,720 --> 02:44:29,920
you know development obviously it's it's
more of a

1960
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:32,800
trail and there's parts of it i
understand i haven't been on it

1961
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:37,120
personally but there's parts of it
i understand that are fine right now and

1962
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:43,520
walking trails and it's
clear and perfectly uh

1963
02:44:40,399 --> 02:44:46,880
cleared and level and i guess easy to
to maneuver on and there's other parts

1964
02:44:45,760 --> 02:44:50,960
the parts that would be
obviously concerning are the the tunnel

1965
02:44:49,439 --> 02:44:54,880
which i understand people have walked
through and rode through for years but i

1966
02:44:52,720 --> 02:44:59,439
don't know anything about
the tunnel or the structural integrity

1967
02:44:57,040 --> 02:45:02,880
of the tunnel and other tunnels
through the same trail that have

1968
02:45:01,279 --> 02:45:08,080
collapsed in on themselves
but this one apparently hasn't so my

1969
02:45:06,080 --> 02:45:11,600
my only concern was that we had some
professional

1970
02:45:09,359 --> 02:45:16,479
who knew what they were doing to
evaluate the integrity of the tunnel

1971
02:45:14,399 --> 02:45:21,439
and if it wasn't theme safe then it
needs to be closed off but if it's okay

1972
02:45:18,960 --> 02:45:24,399
fine and the other thing was the bridge
that didn't

1973
02:45:22,240 --> 02:45:28,800
from the pictures i saw look look safe
to walk on

1974
02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:32,319
uh much less drive anything on so i
definitely that would have to be

1975
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:38,160
barricaded off in a way
uh that a reasonable person would uh

1976
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:41,920
would would say it would stop someone
from getting on that bridge

1977
02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:46,560
but no matter what you do if someone
calls and gets hurt on that trail

1978
02:45:43,840 --> 02:45:50,880
just like they would in any county on
property they're going to

1979
02:45:47,840 --> 02:45:56,640
sue anybody they can to try to get some
money certainly

1980
02:45:53,600 --> 02:46:00,479
chairman commissioner hill go ahead
i brought this up in the meeting the

1981
02:45:58,080 --> 02:46:03,680
other night uh ty singer hampton and
associates did the engineering on the

1982
02:46:02,560 --> 02:46:06,960
entirety of
the proposed tweetsie trail from

1983
02:46:05,920 --> 02:46:11,200
downtown johnson
city all the way to the north carolina

1984
02:46:09,439 --> 02:46:15,600
state line
that plan still exists somewhere there

1985
02:46:13,840 --> 02:46:20,080
should be copies on file
over in planning and zoning the

1986
02:46:18,399 --> 02:46:26,000
remediation plan for the bridge
consisted of some prefab panels that

1987
02:46:23,279 --> 02:46:30,240
that would would carry bicycle traffic
and the tunnel engineering

1988
02:46:27,760 --> 02:46:34,319
is on there if i'm not mistaken it
called for another

1989
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:37,520
sort of prefab platform that would
elevate

1990
02:46:35,200 --> 02:46:40,560
people over the the water lines which
are actually

1991
02:46:38,319 --> 02:46:43,920
encased if you look at the photos and
such

1992
02:46:41,439 --> 02:46:48,720
um that would that would get the trail
all the way to uh

1993
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:52,160
in this case green bridge landing um
there's there's no proposal to go

1994
02:46:50,319 --> 02:46:59,359
through the gorge at this time
but it would be a an incredible

1995
02:46:55,760 --> 02:47:03,200
capture i do believe it would be prudent
to put up some fencing and to prevent

1996
02:47:01,200 --> 02:47:06,720
access to the bridge portion until
the remediation could be done uh if

1997
02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:12,000
anybody
will cared i'm sure we could ask um

1998
02:47:10,240 --> 02:47:17,520
planning director schuler about
multimodal grants and that kind of thing

1999
02:47:14,479 --> 02:47:23,680
uh if there is a point of interest
on one end of the of the the linear

2000
02:47:21,279 --> 02:47:28,319
trail uh the linear park is what this
would become

2001
02:47:24,880 --> 02:47:34,240
um and and some sort of ingress egress
and parking on at another location

2002
02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:39,359
then it qualifies for some some grants
that are out there that that

2003
02:47:35,680 --> 02:47:39,359
we don't typically seem to use

2004
02:47:42,399 --> 02:47:48,080
anyone else mr chairman yes sir mr
bailey

2005
02:47:45,680 --> 02:47:50,399
i have no problem with us opening the
trail up

2006
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:54,960
all the way to where it gets to that
bridge but i think once

2007
02:47:52,080 --> 02:48:00,240
even if we owned it unlike them it needs
to stop there until we get an engineer

2008
02:47:57,200 --> 02:48:03,840
or somebody to look at that because it's
long ways down to that river

2009
02:48:05,680 --> 02:48:16,240
a lot of money dude i think you should
what do we gain

2010
02:48:09,359 --> 02:48:22,960
oh we're putting these
chairman of the hill yes mr von cannon

2011
02:48:19,600 --> 02:48:28,240
i think you have to accept for this
reason

2012
02:48:25,200 --> 02:48:34,560
you your mileage then would equate
almost to the

2013
02:48:30,399 --> 02:48:34,560
trail out of uh that

2014
02:48:34,640 --> 02:48:39,760
trail in having that comes out at
damascus

2015
02:48:40,240 --> 02:48:47,840
okay it almost equates to the mileage
and if you could extend it on across

2016
02:48:46,880 --> 02:48:51,200
green bridge
but that there again you hit some

2017
02:48:49,279 --> 02:48:56,319
private property before you get to the
gorge property the lord's property would

2018
02:48:53,600 --> 02:48:59,520
probably they would go along with it
then you go on through two tunnels that

2019
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:03,279
are
operative then you go to the tunnel

2020
02:49:01,600 --> 02:49:08,080
that's collapsed
and two more bridges the blevins bridge

2021
02:49:06,560 --> 02:49:13,279
is one
uh talk to me about the railroad because

2022
02:49:11,520 --> 02:49:20,640
i have studied that
for years and i would accept it

2023
02:49:18,160 --> 02:49:27,200
but the but the real problem is over the
dough

2024
02:49:21,920 --> 02:49:30,960
at the tunnel at valley forge
people would be jumping off of that

2025
02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:35,120
thing
you'd have to do it like they did to

2026
02:49:32,479 --> 02:49:40,640
johnson city across the interstate
and build a cage across the top of it

2027
02:49:37,840 --> 02:49:47,120
until you couldn't jump off of it
uh it would be a it'd be a great

2028
02:49:44,000 --> 02:49:51,120
great thing but it's going to cost money
like we haven't seen money before it

2029
02:49:49,279 --> 02:49:58,160
probably cost more than railroad
did originally but

2030
02:49:54,399 --> 02:50:02,720
i can see a great deal of opportunity
jack

2031
02:50:00,080 --> 02:50:09,680
i don't see enough to invest any money
in it but

2032
02:50:05,120 --> 02:50:14,560
it it's intriguing
it's intriguing chairman

2033
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:21,760
i'm poorly equipped to talk about it as
did ken good

2034
02:50:19,359 --> 02:50:25,439
if randall can remember and understands
things better i

2035
02:50:22,960 --> 02:50:30,319
i hope he'll speak but that is one of
the things that ken guge pointed out

2036
02:50:27,439 --> 02:50:36,000
is that with that additional mileage our
twitsy trail

2037
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:42,720
uh is is a national attractor
for cyclists it's not just a local

2038
02:50:39,840 --> 02:50:46,560
pleasurable thing anymore but we're
sponsoring the

2039
02:50:43,760 --> 02:50:52,319
optium now we've got the mountain bike
trails in johnson city

2040
02:50:49,040 --> 02:50:56,160
this would add to carter county and we
we become

2041
02:50:53,120 --> 02:51:01,520
a little hub for cyclists
um if if we have this and

2042
02:50:59,680 --> 02:51:07,520
so anyway i'll stop talking and see if
randall has anything he wants to add

2043
02:51:04,720 --> 02:51:11,520
well i i support everything that you
just said

2044
02:51:08,319 --> 02:51:15,840
and so much more adding this to
the tweetsie trail extension part of it

2045
02:51:14,319 --> 02:51:18,880
uh
i mean i can't even think of the

2046
02:51:17,840 --> 02:51:25,200
possibilities
uh it's it's endless to to see how many

2047
02:51:22,479 --> 02:51:29,520
people use the trail down in town
and that's just middle of town to put

2048
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:35,279
the scenic part of it and if you haven't
walked up there and looked at this

2049
02:51:32,080 --> 02:51:39,040
you need to it's in my backyard
not literally in my backyard it's where

2050
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:42,960
i learned how to fish
there's a lot of childhood memories up

2051
02:51:40,880 --> 02:51:46,800
through there but that's a lot of people
around here

2052
02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:50,240
and that could be a lot of future carter
counties

2053
02:51:47,840 --> 02:51:53,680
too i'm going to think about that and to
make this part of the trail

2054
02:51:51,600 --> 02:51:58,479
it would probably be the prettiest part
of the trail

2055
02:51:55,680 --> 02:52:01,520
and there's been talks about the bridge
mike you might remember we've talked

2056
02:51:59,920 --> 02:52:07,840
about it before
uh about making a pedestrian bridge

2057
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:14,000
it does get expensive but we've looked
at other

2058
02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:17,760
opportunities or other avenues to go
just i i cannot see passing this

2059
02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:21,120
opportunity up
i'm i'm probably a little biased i'm a

2060
02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:26,080
lot biased
towards it but uh

2061
02:52:24,319 --> 02:52:31,439
i'll try to answer any questions that
anybody's got

2062
02:52:28,560 --> 02:52:34,000
chairman hill yes go ahead director
shooter

2063
02:52:31,920 --> 02:52:39,439
uh if it's all right randall can i uh
mention some stuff from park and rec

2064
02:52:36,240 --> 02:52:42,160
yeah absolutely go for it okay uh i went
to that

2065
02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:46,319
uh last parking rec meeting when uh that
was announced uh

2066
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:49,200
myself and and mayor woodbe were there
uh

2067
02:52:47,200 --> 02:52:56,000
at that time i decided to go ahead and
check on some information

2068
02:52:51,439 --> 02:53:00,080
and uh really a pedestrian bridge
art is expensive especially that type of

2069
02:52:58,640 --> 02:53:05,760
pedestrian bridge
as such as the one that we have in uh

2070
02:53:03,359 --> 02:53:10,080
uh gap creek that'll be in place here in
the next few weeks

2071
02:53:07,439 --> 02:53:13,359
so uh there is some some definite
changes and there's

2072
02:53:11,359 --> 02:53:15,920
actually i spoke with a gentleman in
pennsylvania

2073
02:53:14,800 --> 02:53:20,800
that's doing some of these new
pedestrian bridges

2074
02:53:17,840 --> 02:53:24,000
and uh we talked about actually sloping
that bridge

2075
02:53:22,399 --> 02:53:26,240
so that we can reach the tunnel there's
there's quite a bit of elevation

2076
02:53:25,600 --> 02:53:30,319
difference
and uh i have to get up there i haven't

2077
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:32,800
had a chance to go up and survey it and
shoot it and see what the elevation

2078
02:53:31,760 --> 02:53:36,000
change is
but there's a possibility that we can

2079
02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:40,960
actually reach out
and continue the trail and still keep it

2080
02:53:38,720 --> 02:53:45,040
ada compliance we won't have the three
percent

2081
02:53:42,160 --> 02:53:50,880
greatest as a rail the trail would have
and then what uh commissioner hill

2082
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:52,800
uh second district uh uh iterated to was
uh

2083
02:53:51,439 --> 02:53:55,439
the other grants that's out there
there's a lot of relative trail grants

2084
02:53:54,640 --> 02:54:01,439
there's a lot of
multimodals that can be utilized uh

2085
02:53:58,880 --> 02:54:06,560
it's something that myself and
commissioner jenkins looked at

2086
02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:12,960
probably six years ago randall maybe
longer somewhere in there so

2087
02:54:09,680 --> 02:54:18,840
google situation uh and yeah as mr as
commissioner bailey mentioned you know

2088
02:54:15,120 --> 02:54:23,680
yeah it definitely needs something there
uh temporarily until we can figure out

2089
02:54:22,080 --> 02:54:29,920
what we're gonna do on a bridge
and uh uh and work

2090
02:54:26,960 --> 02:54:33,520
that out to make it safer but uh i think
it's a great opportunity

2091
02:54:31,439 --> 02:54:36,560
and and i hope y'all go forward with it
uh

2092
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:39,920
i don't know what my status will be much
longer as far as dealing with parking

2093
02:54:38,800 --> 02:54:42,960
wreck but i think it would be a good
idea

2094
02:54:40,800 --> 02:54:45,840
uh to go ahead and accept it if we have
to block it off or at least make it a

2095
02:54:44,960 --> 02:54:51,279
variable
type as as attorney hardin says i think

2096
02:54:48,800 --> 02:54:58,080
it's a good deal
chairman hill yes mr president

2097
02:54:55,680 --> 02:55:01,760
one other thing just for a point of
clarification

2098
02:54:59,120 --> 02:55:06,479
that bridge i'd heard the number of 152
feet is that a relatively close to what

2099
02:55:03,680 --> 02:55:06,479
the distance is

2100
02:55:07,040 --> 02:55:14,479
are you talking about across it or yeah
across it

2101
02:55:11,439 --> 02:55:18,560
oh yeah that would make it one of the
longest pedestrian foot bridges in the

2102
02:55:16,240 --> 02:55:18,560
country

2103
02:55:20,640 --> 02:55:24,000
that's an attraction by itself

2104
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:34,720
i don't know you think it's that long
i'm sorry i'm gonna have a little

2105
02:55:33,120 --> 02:55:39,040
problem with my my uh
speaker here what was the question sir

2106
02:55:37,359 --> 02:55:42,240
uh i was saying do you think that bridge
is 150 feet long

2107
02:55:40,560 --> 02:55:46,800
i don't think it's quite that long uh
the longest pedestrian bridge

2108
02:55:44,080 --> 02:55:51,600
that this company that that makes the
total

2109
02:55:47,520 --> 02:55:56,640
bike hot bridges that i'm discussing
with

2110
02:55:52,960 --> 02:56:01,439
i just put one in that was a hundred and
miss patty i sent it to you and ken good

2111
02:55:59,600 --> 02:56:05,279
i think it was 164
feet uh supported in the end and that's

2112
02:56:04,640 --> 02:56:09,840
all
and uh that was placed uh

2113
02:56:10,160 --> 02:56:16,240
i can't remember exactly where it was
placed but that that's been in place

2114
02:56:13,680 --> 02:56:20,800
for about six months now and it's
working fine

2115
02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:24,560
so i'll like i said uh randall i'll have
to go over there and shoot it

2116
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:29,439
and shoot the elevation and shoot the
distance and see what we've got

2117
02:56:26,800 --> 02:56:32,160
to the workable pliable surface there
and uh

2118
02:56:30,319 --> 02:56:34,800
but right now i've been kind of swamped
so i haven't been able to take care of a

2119
02:56:33,600 --> 02:56:37,439
lot of people are buying these seven
dollar two before us and building great

2120
02:56:36,240 --> 02:56:41,760
big houses so
we've been a lot of land planning doing

2121
02:56:41,040 --> 02:56:46,640
so
uh i'll try to get to it i can't promise

2122
02:56:44,080 --> 02:56:51,200
you this week but before the next uh
uh meeting i'll i'll have you some

2123
02:56:49,200 --> 02:56:57,359
information that's fine with the board
mr chairman justin just as an estimation

2124
02:56:54,000 --> 02:57:03,840
do you think it's about 150 feet
i would venture to say it's probably

2125
02:57:00,880 --> 02:57:08,800
right at about 140 feet my best guess
from the last time i was down there

2126
02:57:06,160 --> 02:57:13,600
and i'm usually pretty close so i'll
shoot it is that mr frazier speaking

2127
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:18,560
yes sir yes sir i'll shoot that thing
and see where we're stand okay

2128
02:57:15,680 --> 02:57:23,040
all right gary i think my uh
commissioner hill had his hand up a

2129
02:57:19,680 --> 02:57:29,200
second ago and i'll get you uh yes sir
forward-looking um the the moment we get

2130
02:57:27,439 --> 02:57:32,800
this trail eventually to the north
carolina state line

2131
02:57:30,720 --> 02:57:36,479
we do have counterparts on the other
side of the state line that are very

2132
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:39,520
interested in carrying this forward
uh they've expressed that sort of thing

2133
02:57:38,080 --> 02:57:43,279
mr shuttler's pro
prototype or counterpart over in avery

2134
02:57:42,319 --> 02:57:47,680
county had
expressed some specific plans as to how

2135
02:57:46,479 --> 02:57:51,279
it might be rooted
um if you if you look a little further

2136
02:57:50,240 --> 02:57:54,720
ahead
uh and it possibly could get all the way

2137
02:57:53,439 --> 02:57:59,200
across avery watauga
and ash you could back door connect to

2138
02:57:57,600 --> 02:58:02,640
the virginia creeper trail that mr von
cannon was referring to

2139
02:58:00,880 --> 02:58:06,720
a little while ago and then you really
have something that's regional in nature

2140
02:58:04,800 --> 02:58:10,399
uh opens you up to all sorts of
possibilities for

2141
02:58:08,399 --> 02:58:13,760
buckets of funding and that sort of
thing and i'll yield back and shut up

2142
02:58:12,560 --> 02:58:18,319
now
and mr bill speaking i apologize mr may

2143
02:58:16,880 --> 02:58:22,960
speak go ahead yes sir
yeah as a commissioner hill from 2nd

2144
02:58:20,880 --> 02:58:28,720
district was speaking of
we've met with them multiple times

2145
02:58:26,399 --> 02:58:31,520
uh and it actually would probably go
from a

2146
02:58:29,520 --> 02:58:34,960
tweetsie trail to a over mountain
victory trail

2147
02:58:33,040 --> 02:58:38,000
switch the trail would be more of the
bicyclist

2148
02:58:36,479 --> 02:58:43,600
and then the over mountain would would
split off up there

2149
02:58:39,600 --> 02:58:47,359
so it's a win-win anyway we go and also
we've been in contact all the way back

2150
02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:51,439
to when uh
mr hughes bob hughes was chairman of the

2151
02:58:49,600 --> 02:58:54,880
planning commission with uh
the town of damascus and working with

2152
02:58:53,359 --> 02:58:58,560
state of virginia
of course some of those guys aren't in

2153
02:58:56,720 --> 02:59:02,560
the elected positions anymore and some
of them passed away but actually working

2154
02:59:00,800 --> 02:59:06,160
out iron mountain trail where it comes
off of the uh

2155
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:12,080
appalachian trail that goes on in it
would attach to the creeper trail

2156
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:14,319
uh so and uh uh i can't think of the
other mountain trail off the creeper

2157
02:59:13,680 --> 02:59:17,920
trail
so we've worked on all that we have a

2158
02:59:15,920 --> 02:59:21,920
lot of information on that so
i mean even if we can't cross the bridge

2159
02:59:20,319 --> 02:59:25,200
right now i think it's a good idea to
take it and let's move forward

2160
02:59:25,439 --> 02:59:30,399
mr bailey i was actually going to ask
myself

2161
02:59:28,880 --> 02:59:34,080
if she'd take an amendment to that that
basically we would take it to the bridge

2162
02:59:32,319 --> 02:59:40,080
and join it with the one we had and stop
there until we get some quotes on

2163
02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:43,600
what it cost us to fix the bridge or to
get one across or whatever it is but

2164
02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:47,600
basically
um amendment to the motion to we stop at

2165
02:59:46,720 --> 02:59:51,680
the bridge
and fix it from there down then we come

2166
02:59:50,240 --> 02:59:54,240
back and look at what it costs till we
get

2167
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:57,359
chris gets a chance to survey a height
we can get a quote

2168
02:59:55,760 --> 03:00:01,680
well it's going to cost us what we look
at that way it's not our responsibility

2169
02:59:59,439 --> 03:00:05,920
instantly tonight but it still lets us
go on and take that other portion

2170
03:00:03,359 --> 03:00:09,359
and go with it uh mr chairman can i
speak on that yes

2171
03:00:06,880 --> 03:00:13,120
director yeah aggravation i apologize
y'all but uh

2172
03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:18,080
actually gary tysinger of ty singer
hampton partners is now

2173
03:00:14,880 --> 03:00:23,760
actually retired he is a
licensed civil engineer and he is also a

2174
03:00:21,359 --> 03:00:27,359
railroad engineer uh construction
engineer

2175
03:00:24,720 --> 03:00:30,160
and uh i've got him on speed dial so we
can move forward with that we can block

2176
03:00:28,880 --> 03:00:33,359
it off take the stuff
block off what we have to until we can

2177
03:00:32,080 --> 03:00:36,399
get his report
and i'm sure he'd be more than happy to

2178
03:00:35,120 --> 03:00:39,920
assist us in that
because right now he's actually working

2179
03:00:38,080 --> 03:00:42,800
on our other project with doe river
gorge

2180
03:00:40,560 --> 03:00:45,920
and uh i don't think i you know i think
i can mention that i think

2181
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:50,479
mr von kan knows we're getting ready to
have a christmas train there

2182
03:00:47,439 --> 03:00:53,600
quite a large long run so uh gary's
actually working on that and i can get

2183
03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:57,520
him to work on
uh i'll beg bum and borrow him and trade

2184
03:00:55,920 --> 03:01:01,200
some radios or something with him and
get him to uh

2185
03:00:58,960 --> 03:01:03,920
to go and look at it with us and see
where we go but

2186
03:01:02,080 --> 03:01:10,880
i don't think walking will be that big
at all go for

2187
03:01:07,040 --> 03:01:13,920
thank you all aaron hill
yes mr tester

2188
03:01:14,410 --> 03:01:20,640
[Music]
my questions for probably mr hard mr

2189
03:01:18,560 --> 03:01:23,920
harden do you know whether that
from my understand that was part of the

2190
03:01:22,399 --> 03:01:27,439
tweetsie railroad
do you know whether that easement

2191
03:01:25,439 --> 03:01:31,040
through there has been put in the
federal railroad bank or not

2192
03:01:32,479 --> 03:01:39,120
my understanding uh commissioner tester
this company

2193
03:01:35,920 --> 03:01:45,520
management properties inc uh they they
own uh this 27.12 acres essentially and

2194
03:01:44,399 --> 03:01:49,120
fee i mean they are
they are the fee simple owners uh to my

2195
03:01:48,319 --> 03:01:54,319
knowledge
uh the railroad

2196
03:01:52,319 --> 03:01:58,640
right away isn't in play through there
anymore is my understanding

2197
03:01:56,240 --> 03:02:02,560
uh they've this company has owned it
outright and paid taxes on it i believe

2198
03:02:00,800 --> 03:02:07,680
since 19
95 or thereabouts so i

2199
03:02:06,080 --> 03:02:12,560
i don't know if i can exactly answer
your question but i don't think

2200
03:02:09,279 --> 03:02:16,240
that the railroad right away is in play
anymore

2201
03:02:14,319 --> 03:02:20,560
mr chairman could i jump in that again
please yes sir go ahead

2202
03:02:17,920 --> 03:02:24,399
and uh mr tester uh what happened on
that was the uh

2203
03:02:22,240 --> 03:02:27,760
the oil company and i can't remember if
it was united or simcoe or whatever it

2204
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:31,279
was
actually bought all those properties and

2205
03:02:29,680 --> 03:02:36,720
the railroad in that area
went back to the actual physical owners

2206
03:02:34,399 --> 03:02:39,840
uh of the property real property so
you're not just getting

2207
03:02:38,160 --> 03:02:45,200
the railroad right away you're getting
the entire property that they own in a

2208
03:02:42,319 --> 03:02:49,920
fee simple form
thank you thank you chris that was my

2209
03:02:47,840 --> 03:02:55,120
question because i knew that the rest of
that railroad through there was

2210
03:02:51,600 --> 03:02:57,680
uh was turned over to railroad bank and
they actually did not have the right to

2211
03:02:57,040 --> 03:03:03,040
do that
so exactly uh epsc

2212
03:03:01,200 --> 03:03:07,040
western north carolina railroad had an
agreement through and it was

2213
03:03:04,560 --> 03:03:10,800
in the 1800s that if they abandoned that
railroad

2214
03:03:08,479 --> 03:03:14,800
uh multiple portions of that railroad
did not meet that criteria but uh

2215
03:03:13,040 --> 03:03:18,479
that definitely through that area did
meet the criteria

2216
03:03:16,160 --> 03:03:22,479
if it didn't go to the county or the the
uh the governing body

2217
03:03:20,560 --> 03:03:25,359
then it went back to the the uh
adjoining land owners

2218
03:03:23,840 --> 03:03:30,720
so that's how that ended up in that
piece of property sir

2219
03:03:27,279 --> 03:03:35,120
thank you chris thank you
thank you mr johnson go ahead i call for

2220
03:03:33,920 --> 03:03:39,760
the motion
okay let's go ahead and take the vote

2221
03:03:38,080 --> 03:03:45,040
most of my miss holder and say goodbye
mr hill

2222
03:03:41,840 --> 03:03:54,720
i'm click call roll please
willie campbell no mark blevins

2223
03:03:50,560 --> 03:04:02,000
mark blevins no robert aka
yes nancy brown

2224
03:03:57,840 --> 03:04:04,640
yes mike hill yes
julie gwen

2225
03:04:05,120 --> 03:04:16,000
yes bradley johnson here
mark tester yes trust von cannon

2226
03:04:12,560 --> 03:04:22,960
absolutely i'd say a grand staff
absolutely gary prophet yes

2227
03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:31,120
austin james
ross garland yes layla ward

2228
03:04:27,359 --> 03:04:35,200
yes ginger holdren yes
randall jenkins yes no i had awesome

2229
03:04:34,479 --> 03:04:38,160
that yes
i'm kidding i'm joking

2230
03:04:38,479 --> 03:04:41,279
jerry bailey

2231
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:53,040
yeah travis hill yes
sonja color yes

2232
03:04:48,720 --> 03:05:00,720
daniel mcintyre yes
aaron fraser yes robin mckamey

2233
03:04:56,399 --> 03:05:08,800
yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes 21 eyes

2234
03:05:05,520 --> 03:05:12,319
motion passed thank you chairman can i
say something real quick this turn

2235
03:05:10,160 --> 03:05:16,399
right i don't know what the process is
but we need to make sure that we

2236
03:05:14,240 --> 03:05:20,160
we get that blocked off that i don't
know if that was added or not i i didn't

2237
03:05:18,800 --> 03:05:24,479
i didn't hear but we need to make sure
that bridge is is completely barricaded

2238
03:05:22,640 --> 03:05:28,880
and tunnel until we get this
process done like attorney hardin said

2239
03:05:26,880 --> 03:05:31,359
that was going to be my question daniel
who

2240
03:05:29,600 --> 03:05:34,000
chris is this something you will do or
who's going to be responsible for making

2241
03:05:32,880 --> 03:05:39,200
sure the bridge is
blocked off at both ends no

2242
03:05:40,800 --> 03:05:47,439
i'm sorry my mouse ain't working right
anyways uh

2243
03:05:44,960 --> 03:05:52,720
if it gets donated i i can work with the
parking wreck and make something happen

2244
03:05:50,000 --> 03:05:55,600
i can contact the parks and rec i mean
i'd be happy to work with chris on it

2245
03:05:54,399 --> 03:06:01,439
and i can contact
ken tonight and we can start action

2246
03:05:59,600 --> 03:06:03,600
i didn't have something i needed to do
randall just keep me in the loop if you

2247
03:06:03,040 --> 03:06:10,720
need me
to help do anything yeah absolutely

2248
03:06:07,359 --> 03:06:14,240
yeah the thing about it is and attorney
hardin

2249
03:06:11,600 --> 03:06:17,200
didn't want to say this but no matter
what you do

2250
03:06:14,960 --> 03:06:20,640
as a county they could see you over a
bologna sandwich if they dropped it in

2251
03:06:18,720 --> 03:06:26,479
the trail so just be ready for some
idiot like that but uh

2252
03:06:23,200 --> 03:06:29,920
the key is to make it were a serviceable
individual

2253
03:06:27,439 --> 03:06:33,439
with the service of a brain would know
that it is dangerous

2254
03:06:31,040 --> 03:06:37,680
and uh mr mcturf i'll make sure it's
took care of sir

2255
03:06:35,359 --> 03:06:43,840
thank you somebody said it's a baloney
sandwich and somebody gets

2256
03:06:38,960 --> 03:06:43,840
killed there josh are you still on there

2257
03:06:44,720 --> 03:06:54,479
yes sir as we voted here tonight and we
accepted that right now we've become

2258
03:06:51,040 --> 03:06:58,319
so loners of that property no sir
they'll have to be they'll have to be a

2259
03:06:57,040 --> 03:07:03,040
deed prepared
uh and it has to be actually signed by

2260
03:07:01,439 --> 03:07:07,040
the uh
authorized representative of this

2261
03:07:05,120 --> 03:07:10,960
company i imagine the president of the
company

2262
03:07:07,920 --> 03:07:15,279
i had i had some email contact with the
gentleman who was uh

2263
03:07:12,720 --> 03:07:17,520
talking with mr googe about it but i'm
not sure

2264
03:07:16,080 --> 03:07:19,920
has been said here right now they're
going to prepare the deed obviously if

2265
03:07:19,120 --> 03:07:24,479
they're
donating and they'll probably want us to

2266
03:07:21,600 --> 03:07:27,840
do so i'll prepare the deed but until
that is actually signed

2267
03:07:25,920 --> 03:07:30,960
up and recorded in the register dude's
office we don't take possession until

2268
03:07:30,080 --> 03:07:34,560
the end so
i i would suggest that some coordination

2269
03:07:33,120 --> 03:07:39,200
happen there with uh
mr shuttler and maybe mr dude park and

2270
03:07:37,200 --> 03:07:43,279
folks to have the uh
the means lined up to get that

2271
03:07:41,359 --> 03:07:45,600
accomplished before the actual transfer
happens

2272
03:07:44,080 --> 03:07:50,240
that's what i was getting now because if
somebody gets killed

2273
03:07:47,760 --> 03:07:54,560
always remember that is there a way we
can cut that bridge out of there where

2274
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:59,439
we're not responsible
uh the offer was all i believe all or

2275
03:07:57,520 --> 03:08:05,120
nothing i don't think they were gonna
just donate part of it so it's all

2276
03:08:02,640 --> 03:08:08,560
one one donation of the entire thing
they don't want for responsibility

2277
03:08:06,479 --> 03:08:12,479
either do they
guys it's been there that way for 20

2278
03:08:10,960 --> 03:08:18,720
plus years
let's let the 24

2279
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:23,600
well man in the condition it's in right
now it's been that way for 20 plus years

2280
03:08:21,680 --> 03:08:27,200
let's just move on let the committees do
their work and then we'll come back to

2281
03:08:25,120 --> 03:08:30,640
the full floor and talk about it
instead of wasting time tonight

2282
03:08:31,920 --> 03:08:38,560
um chairman hill i'll just hold him
i have one more thing to say about

2283
03:08:37,120 --> 03:08:41,920
building the grounds and then
that that part will be finished for the

2284
03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:46,000
evening i just want to thank the
commission

2285
03:08:42,640 --> 03:08:49,840
for their due diligence uh their
concerns are well placed and and

2286
03:08:48,160 --> 03:08:53,520
strongly noted
uh so i just want to thank everybody for

2287
03:08:52,960 --> 03:08:56,880
that
and then we'll move on to the the last

2288
03:08:55,359 --> 03:09:00,479
thing will just be a mansion there's
nothing to vote on here

2289
03:08:58,560 --> 03:09:04,160
but we are still in contract
negotiations or at least negotiations i

2290
03:09:03,200 --> 03:09:09,439
should call it
with northeast state uh they first

2291
03:09:07,120 --> 03:09:15,200
proposed ten thousand dollars
a year uh mayor whitby went back to them

2292
03:09:13,120 --> 03:09:19,600
with some questions from us
they came back again proposing eighty

2293
03:09:17,520 --> 03:09:22,080
six thousand dollars per year lease for
five

2294
03:09:20,000 --> 03:09:26,399
years uh they're calling that their
break even

2295
03:09:23,200 --> 03:09:30,640
uh point they have to
pay no more than that in order to

2296
03:09:29,040 --> 03:09:34,239
sustain their efforts
we asked them some very specific

2297
03:09:32,560 --> 03:09:39,520
questions though through mayor would be
and they did not answer them

2298
03:09:36,239 --> 03:09:44,239
so building a grounds committee asked dr
bullock to please go back

2299
03:09:41,840 --> 03:09:48,720
and come to us again next month with
those questions

2300
03:09:45,120 --> 03:09:55,279
answered um so just know that we're in
talks with her and we value

2301
03:09:52,239 --> 03:09:59,600
your input as a commission uh
any anything you all have to say

2302
03:09:57,040 --> 03:10:02,720
regarding that issue we would appreciate
um that we could bring up to her when we

2303
03:10:01,920 --> 03:10:05,040
see her next
month

2304
03:10:07,600 --> 03:10:13,840
thank you that's it sir thank you
all right let's move on to rules and

2305
03:10:12,399 --> 03:10:20,000
bylaws
it's chairman jenkins i believe

2306
03:10:17,279 --> 03:10:22,399
let the uh minutes reflect please okay
thank you

2307
03:10:22,800 --> 03:10:27,920
yes johnson don't you you know what
that's the longest i've ever heard

2308
03:10:27,279 --> 03:10:31,680
ramble
talk in the past five years

2309
03:10:32,319 --> 03:10:39,120
all right he should go live zoom i'd
like to see what he looks like

2310
03:10:39,600 --> 03:10:46,399
all right let's move on to law
enforcement and beer board with

2311
03:10:43,279 --> 03:10:49,760
chairman hill law enforcement had no
agenda there was nothing

2312
03:10:47,840 --> 03:10:53,920
brought forward to us to bring to the
commission or vice versa

2313
03:10:51,760 --> 03:10:58,479
beer board will most likely be meeting
later next month

2314
03:10:55,200 --> 03:11:03,760
um next month probably third thursday
for beer board members um there is a

2315
03:11:01,520 --> 03:11:07,439
permit application that's been picked up
but it has not been returned at this

2316
03:11:05,200 --> 03:11:14,399
time that i know
get ready we gotta um go and look at one

2317
03:11:11,120 --> 03:11:18,399
thank you very much uh planning with the
director shutler

2318
03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:22,880
uh yes sir we'll have next planning
commission will be may 25th

2319
03:11:21,279 --> 03:11:27,840
and we'll move forward with that thank
you thank you

2320
03:11:24,399 --> 03:11:27,840
uh animal shelter dr ako

2321
03:11:28,640 --> 03:11:34,960
thank you chairman um just a couple of
things

2322
03:11:31,840 --> 03:11:34,960
regarding the shelter

2323
03:11:35,040 --> 03:11:44,000
councilman kim bergsfield stepped down
uh in representing the city the council

2324
03:11:42,080 --> 03:11:46,880
has appointed mayor kurt alexander to
take his place

2325
03:11:47,359 --> 03:11:53,760
kurt joined us this last animal shelter
meeting so he'll be

2326
03:11:51,439 --> 03:11:58,560
part of the representation for for the
city council going forward

2327
03:11:56,479 --> 03:12:02,880
we are in the process of developing a
job description

2328
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:05,200
for the animal shelter director we've
never had a job description for the

2329
03:12:04,560 --> 03:12:10,160
director
that has always been sidestepped but uh

2330
03:12:08,399 --> 03:12:13,200
mike simmerley and i have taken that
task and we just finished the draft

2331
03:12:12,239 --> 03:12:16,239
today
it will be sent back out and we'll

2332
03:12:15,040 --> 03:12:20,720
consider it
at the next at next month's uh animal

2333
03:12:18,720 --> 03:12:27,200
shelter board meeting
uh mayor woodby and mayor

2334
03:12:24,000 --> 03:12:32,960
um alexander along with uh
city manager estes and uh chairman

2335
03:12:30,640 --> 03:12:38,080
hill will receive letters probably by
the end of this week

2336
03:12:34,640 --> 03:12:43,840
uh requesting that we invite
mtas and ctas to come to carter county

2337
03:12:41,279 --> 03:12:48,319
elizabethton to evaluate the animal
shelter for a 501 c

2338
03:12:45,359 --> 03:12:53,359
3 status much like what they did for
sullivan county kingsport

2339
03:12:50,160 --> 03:13:00,479
prior to making uh that move
by that entity so hopefully we can

2340
03:12:56,479 --> 03:13:03,600
have that in the process um before we
proceed there are a whole bunch of

2341
03:13:01,680 --> 03:13:06,720
unanswered questions i know that
attorney hardin was concerned about how

2342
03:13:06,319 --> 03:13:11,279
uh
county employees could be part of a 501

2343
03:13:09,359 --> 03:13:16,960
c 3 and still be paid by the county
those are just that just one

2344
03:13:13,600 --> 03:13:23,040
example of a conundrum that we want
answered so we thought we would

2345
03:13:19,760 --> 03:13:26,800
turn to the experts and ask them to
come and give us an evaluation the other

2346
03:13:26,080 --> 03:13:31,359
thing that
was unanimously passed by the animal

2347
03:13:28,720 --> 03:13:35,920
shelter board is just to ask both
council and commission if you need

2348
03:13:33,680 --> 03:13:39,920
statistics or have concerns or
other issues about the animal shelter we

2349
03:13:38,080 --> 03:13:44,239
would ask that you forward them
to the animal shelter board first and we

2350
03:13:42,800 --> 03:13:49,600
will provide you all those
answers um going forward uh

2351
03:13:47,520 --> 03:13:52,880
we've instructed shannon to make sure
that

2352
03:13:50,880 --> 03:13:58,160
in the minute you always have numbers of
the census for animals down there

2353
03:13:55,359 --> 03:14:03,040
how much spay and neutering we are doing
what how many animals

2354
03:13:59,760 --> 03:14:06,800
uh are adopted along with things like
the feral cat program

2355
03:14:04,800 --> 03:14:12,239
which has been very very successful i
just talked to some folks

2356
03:14:08,479 --> 03:14:15,920
over the weekend who adopted
feral cats from the shelter so they

2357
03:14:14,080 --> 03:14:20,080
could use them as barn cats
so there's a lot of folks that are

2358
03:14:18,160 --> 03:14:24,239
taking advantage of that program and
shannon and her staff are to be

2359
03:14:22,399 --> 03:14:29,120
congratulated for
uh what they're doing down there um

2360
03:14:27,439 --> 03:14:31,920
i think that's all i'll answer questions
from me chairman hill thank you

2361
03:14:30,800 --> 03:14:37,359
anybody have any questions about the
animal shelter chairman

2362
03:14:34,800 --> 03:14:39,920
yes mayor would be well this is i just
wanted to

2363
03:14:38,080 --> 03:14:44,319
jump back at randall and remind him that
his committee did vote

2364
03:14:41,600 --> 03:14:46,640
on the july 4th holiday that he probably
needs to bring through full commission

2365
03:14:45,680 --> 03:14:51,279
yes
sorry sorry mayor that's all right i

2366
03:14:48,880 --> 03:14:56,239
just wanted to remind you
the calendar change so i'll step back in

2367
03:14:54,880 --> 03:14:59,760
here in just a second and
and do that travis just come back to me

2368
03:14:58,399 --> 03:15:03,120
i will i'll get you on parking wreck if
that's all right

2369
03:15:00,960 --> 03:15:06,640
all right all right ginger or miss hold
on go ahead

2370
03:15:04,160 --> 03:15:09,760
i just wanted um to thank the animal
shelter board

2371
03:15:07,520 --> 03:15:15,279
for the work that they're doing the
questions that they're bringing

2372
03:15:11,520 --> 03:15:19,840
uh for the directive to director pasada
to provide us with census numbers

2373
03:15:17,840 --> 03:15:24,880
i think that's a great step and i
appreciate it very much

2374
03:15:21,520 --> 03:15:29,920
um i just want to clarify the reason for
bringing in ctas and mtas though because

2375
03:15:27,920 --> 03:15:34,479
a financial management committee looked
at that possibility

2376
03:15:31,920 --> 03:15:36,800
but when we found out that sullivan
county

2377
03:15:35,760 --> 03:15:40,640
didn't really go with their
recommendation that was one reason we

2378
03:15:39,200 --> 03:15:46,000
didn't bring them in
and the second reason was um that

2379
03:15:44,239 --> 03:15:48,800
whichever gentleman i spoke with said
that it would take many many months for

2380
03:15:47,920 --> 03:15:55,600
them to do
a study so are you asking them to study

2381
03:15:52,560 --> 03:16:00,560
whether or not and a non-profit is
feasible

2382
03:15:56,640 --> 03:16:07,200
or more like how to go about
doing that well i think it's both

2383
03:16:03,760 --> 03:16:11,279
uh in terms of a non-profit
they evaluate as they did for sullivan

2384
03:16:09,520 --> 03:16:15,200
county in kingsport
the ability to support a non-profit

2385
03:16:13,439 --> 03:16:18,720
entity in those counties
in that city so i think that's good for

2386
03:16:17,680 --> 03:16:23,600
us to know the other
things that make it um an opportunity to

2387
03:16:22,560 --> 03:16:29,200
ask m test c
task not only the question that josh

2388
03:16:26,560 --> 03:16:36,560
harden had in terms of
what we do with

2389
03:16:33,520 --> 03:16:41,120
making county employees part of a 501c3
how does that work number two what about

2390
03:16:39,840 --> 03:16:44,960
their benefits
leave longevity with the county how does

2391
03:16:43,920 --> 03:16:50,080
that work
what about if uh it is a 501c3 and it

2392
03:16:48,399 --> 03:16:55,279
assumes that position
do does the city give the land to the

2393
03:16:53,080 --> 03:16:58,319
501c3 and the county give the building
or they

2394
03:16:55,760 --> 03:17:00,479
maintain their rights so i think there
are a number of questions that haven't

2395
03:17:00,080 --> 03:17:07,760
been
answered just because we approved and as

2396
03:17:03,840 --> 03:17:10,399
uh city manager este said just before
the county commission

2397
03:17:08,960 --> 03:17:15,920
approved that they wanted a good move
for a 501c3 it doesn't happen overnight

2398
03:17:13,680 --> 03:17:20,399
uh there are a whole host of questions
that need to be answered

2399
03:17:17,600 --> 03:17:24,560
and i have not talked with uh hardy or
hall

2400
03:17:21,439 --> 03:17:29,359
uh about the this but i would hope that
with mayor woodby's help

2401
03:17:26,000 --> 03:17:32,800
and mayor alexander's help
that they could be forthright in asking

2402
03:17:32,160 --> 03:17:37,920
him tests
and see tasks to do due diligence as

2403
03:17:35,200 --> 03:17:44,560
quickly as possible
thank you yes ma'am

2404
03:17:40,960 --> 03:17:48,560
anyone else hearing then let's move on
to

2405
03:17:44,960 --> 03:17:51,920
agriculture with chairman tester
we'll let the minutes reflect the

2406
03:17:50,239 --> 03:17:57,040
meeting thank you all right let's go
ahead and jump to park and rack and let

2407
03:17:53,120 --> 03:17:57,040
randall finish up with rules and bylaws

2408
03:18:06,840 --> 03:18:09,840
randall

2409
03:18:10,880 --> 03:18:16,160
we'll come back to randall let's get
main street industrial development with

2410
03:18:13,760 --> 03:18:20,960
chairman frazier
uh main street nothing new

2411
03:18:19,760 --> 03:18:24,080
really to report right now that we're
mainly focusing on a facade grant that i

2412
03:18:22,880 --> 03:18:31,840
think we're working on
and uh some of the downtown activities

2413
03:18:27,120 --> 03:18:34,160
coming up this summer and a few other
things

2414
03:18:32,239 --> 03:18:38,239
main thing is the first friday of the
dance those are always

2415
03:18:35,600 --> 03:18:43,600
huge and do do a lot to help out the
local downtown businesses

2416
03:18:40,239 --> 03:18:46,080
um as well as i've not seen the car show
the past couple weeks but hopefully

2417
03:18:44,720 --> 03:18:52,960
they'll get it fired back up here
relatively soon as well

2418
03:18:50,479 --> 03:18:56,880
you ready yet yeah i'm i'm here i'm
sorry i was on

2419
03:18:53,680 --> 03:19:00,560
you the whole time sorry uh so
uh so rules and bylaws of the committee

2420
03:18:59,760 --> 03:19:03,600
voted
the original holiday list that we had uh

2421
03:19:03,200 --> 03:19:09,439
had
the fourth of july uh uh holiday

2422
03:19:07,439 --> 03:19:13,279
for the courthouse to be closed on the
second

2423
03:19:10,640 --> 03:19:19,840
uh we we voted to move that to the fifth
so i just need to

2424
03:19:14,239 --> 03:19:19,840
i'll put that in form of a motion

2425
03:19:20,800 --> 03:19:27,840
motion by mr jenkins second with mr
tester to move the july 4th holiday

2426
03:19:24,560 --> 03:19:30,319
from the second to the fifth any
discussion

2427
03:19:30,800 --> 03:19:37,840
hearing that might impart call the role
please willie campbell

2428
03:19:34,000 --> 03:19:44,720
all right mark blavins yes robert aitken
yes ma'am nancy brown

2429
03:19:41,040 --> 03:19:52,640
yes mike hill yes
julie glenn yes bradley johnson

2430
03:19:48,960 --> 03:19:59,600
yeah mark tester yes
charles von cannon yes i said grandstand

2431
03:19:56,479 --> 03:20:06,720
yes very private yes
austin james ross garland

2432
03:20:03,279 --> 03:20:14,880
yes award yes
ginger holden yes randall jenkins

2433
03:20:10,720 --> 03:20:21,680
yes gary bailey yes travis hill
yes send your color yes

2434
03:20:18,160 --> 03:20:29,279
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
yes robin mckamey yes

2435
03:20:25,359 --> 03:20:36,399
kelly collins yes
yes all right

2436
03:20:32,960 --> 03:20:39,359
thank you and as far as parks and rec
guys i'll

2437
03:20:37,040 --> 03:20:43,760
i'll just take a moment and say thank
you and

2438
03:20:40,560 --> 03:20:47,439
no matter how angry or upset i sounded i
i really do appreciate you guys and

2439
03:20:46,479 --> 03:20:50,720
parks and rec
will always do its due diligence before

2440
03:20:50,160 --> 03:20:53,920
you know
we take on a big project we discussed it

2441
03:20:53,520 --> 03:20:58,720
uh
it went to building grounds we will do

2442
03:20:57,520 --> 03:21:02,560
our due diligence
we'll take care i mean we always put the

2443
03:21:00,800 --> 03:21:05,040
county first and anytime the county
takes

2444
03:21:03,279 --> 03:21:09,520
ownership of a property there is
liability anytime

2445
03:21:06,479 --> 03:21:14,080
we take any ownership of any property
so i do appreciate you guys and

2446
03:21:11,920 --> 03:21:19,520
hopefully i'll have more answers for you
very soon thank you

2447
03:21:17,359 --> 03:21:24,479
let's move on to the chamber of commerce
and keep cars

2448
03:21:20,960 --> 03:21:28,239
with commissioner garland righty uh just
want to thank everybody for allowing the

2449
03:21:26,720 --> 03:21:30,640
the chamber to come on and then hear
what they're into they're they're really

2450
03:21:29,760 --> 03:21:35,680
working hard
we've we really hit the gold mine with

2451
03:21:32,399 --> 03:21:39,920
the higher enjoy on she's really
reintroduced some stuff memberships gone

2452
03:21:38,080 --> 03:21:41,840
sky high you know picked up some people
so they're really doing good they're

2453
03:21:41,200 --> 03:21:45,279
helping us
out and uh you know luke luke's working

2454
03:21:43,760 --> 03:21:49,760
hard seth in there too they're
they're all doing good um but i'll let

2455
03:21:47,920 --> 03:21:53,600
their presentation just kind of reflect
what they're doing but uh tune in to the

2456
03:21:51,760 --> 03:21:56,080
legislative breakfast and i think she's
asking

2457
03:21:54,720 --> 03:21:59,439
if you want to get involved in that or
be be part of that just go ahead and let

2458
03:21:57,760 --> 03:22:04,160
her know as soon as possible as far as
tickets go because it is

2459
03:22:01,200 --> 03:22:06,960
limited capacity uh keep carter county
beautiful this is a busy time of year

2460
03:22:05,920 --> 03:22:10,800
for us
a lot's happened i mean since the last

2461
03:22:09,200 --> 03:22:15,359
commission meeting we've
cleaned up milligan highway we planted

2462
03:22:12,720 --> 03:22:20,080
33 trees on the twisty trail
uh great group effort community effort

2463
03:22:18,640 --> 03:22:23,439
city elizabethan
carter county keep clark county

2464
03:22:21,840 --> 03:22:27,200
beautiful mayor woodby was there
ginger was there uh as always uh let's

2465
03:22:26,880 --> 03:22:30,560
see
it was turned out to be a great event

2466
03:22:29,040 --> 03:22:33,600
except for travis was there too don't
let me forget him

2467
03:22:31,680 --> 03:22:37,840
uh right in the middle of a hail storm
and that was that was

2468
03:22:34,880 --> 03:22:41,279
some experience but uh we battled
through the mud and got them finished up

2469
03:22:39,680 --> 03:22:44,560
so it turned out great they're already
blooming out so if you're going down the

2470
03:22:42,720 --> 03:22:48,640
tweetsie trail behind
uh grind staff for in front of sycamore

2471
03:22:47,040 --> 03:22:52,479
sycamore springs
uh in hoffman's office you'll see the

2472
03:22:50,800 --> 03:22:55,600
the new plantings there
uh great acquisition they've come along

2473
03:22:54,800 --> 03:23:00,479
good
uh ed actually uh we had the

2474
03:22:58,640 --> 03:23:04,000
executive director keep tennessee
beautiful was here this past friday to

2475
03:23:02,720 --> 03:23:07,359
recognize ed
for uh for his achievement the love for

2476
03:23:06,319 --> 03:23:10,560
you live award
which is a statewide award given to one

2477
03:23:09,439 --> 03:23:14,640
person
uh we were lucky enough of our group and

2478
03:23:13,279 --> 03:23:19,120
ed to receive that
that's normally done in nashville you

2479
03:23:17,120 --> 03:23:22,160
know that's presented by the governor
so it was a big deal with covert

2480
03:23:20,800 --> 03:23:26,640
restrictions and all that we were
limited

2481
03:23:22,720 --> 03:23:30,640
limited to uh black golov on friday
attended by

2482
03:23:28,239 --> 03:23:34,319
many delegates ginger uh mayor woodley
was there of course

2483
03:23:31,840 --> 03:23:39,200
benny was there captain smith a lot of
city delegates as well chamber of

2484
03:23:36,080 --> 03:23:42,640
commerce represented was fantastic uh
the following day saturday trasher size

2485
03:23:41,439 --> 03:23:47,520
on the tweetsie trail
uh fantastic event had 40 plus people

2486
03:23:46,160 --> 03:23:50,960
turn out for that
and it was you know streamed throughout

2487
03:23:50,000 --> 03:23:54,560
the state again
facebook social media and promoted that

2488
03:23:53,840 --> 03:23:58,000
way too
and it was really great because it

2489
03:23:56,960 --> 03:24:01,680
brought a whole bunch of people
together i mean there were kids that

2490
03:23:59,840 --> 03:24:05,840
were three four or five years old
carrying signs for us

2491
03:24:03,200 --> 03:24:08,800
a diverse group uh also had the apes
there that

2492
03:24:06,479 --> 03:24:11,600
uh they went to the part of the where
the queries at above happy valley

2493
03:24:10,399 --> 03:24:14,640
elementary
and their group took kayaks up there and

2494
03:24:13,439 --> 03:24:19,359
cleaned it out
so a lot of good things have been going

2495
03:24:16,880 --> 03:24:21,359
on and a lot of good things coming up as
well

2496
03:24:20,319 --> 03:24:26,000
i know they're going we're going to
plant some i think put some seeds down a

2497
03:24:24,080 --> 03:24:30,960
few locations up closer towards
town um and they were coming up to

2498
03:24:28,880 --> 03:24:34,479
ripshin there's been a legal dump site
up there

2499
03:24:31,760 --> 03:24:39,200
there been noticed uh gonna be a team
effort with forest service and

2500
03:24:36,160 --> 03:24:43,120
several other uh entities uh
to help clean that up that's later

2501
03:24:40,960 --> 03:24:47,200
that's that's into may
june or something like that so it's you

2502
03:24:45,520 --> 03:24:50,720
know how hard that group works and how
hard

2503
03:24:47,680 --> 03:24:54,880
his edge to drive so thankful for adding
that that whole bunch so

2504
03:24:53,279 --> 03:24:58,720
that pretty much sums it up for that
that group and thanks thank you to

2505
03:24:56,720 --> 03:25:03,760
everybody that's been a part of it
uh just in this short this past month

2506
03:25:01,920 --> 03:25:08,160
thank you commissioner garland last but
not least the city council update so

2507
03:25:06,000 --> 03:25:11,200
dr acuff or commissioner tester any
update for city council

2508
03:25:12,080 --> 03:25:21,520
uh chairman i'll let um
mr tester also comment but we

2509
03:25:19,120 --> 03:25:25,680
were kind of late to the to the meeting
and the fact that

2510
03:25:22,640 --> 03:25:32,880
we didn't get an agenda or a zoom link
um uh i should have probably texted

2511
03:25:29,840 --> 03:25:36,560
uh the city manager's office when i saw
that it was a present so

2512
03:25:34,399 --> 03:25:39,760
we we both kind of missed that meeting
okay

2513
03:25:37,520 --> 03:25:41,840
okay no worries uh what we'll get i
think they're from here on out i think

2514
03:25:40,800 --> 03:25:45,200
they're in person so
we'll get you taken care of correct yeah

2515
03:25:44,319 --> 03:25:48,399
all right
so that does it for committee reports

2516
03:25:46,479 --> 03:25:51,840
but i didn't miss anybody so we'll move
on to county attorney report

2517
03:25:55,359 --> 03:26:02,239
all right yeah i think i'm unmuted now
uh

2518
03:25:59,120 --> 03:26:07,840
as far as litigation goes
this month uh the lawsuit that was

2519
03:26:05,279 --> 03:26:12,319
brought by mr mcgee jim mcgee
uh versus the county out on ridgecrest

2520
03:26:10,239 --> 03:26:16,160
drive or the
right-of-way issue that lawsuit has been

2521
03:26:14,880 --> 03:26:20,399
dismissed
by chancellor rambo we're still within

2522
03:26:19,040 --> 03:26:24,239
the
appeal period uh but as as we stand

2523
03:26:23,439 --> 03:26:29,120
right now that
uh that case was dismissed and no no

2524
03:26:26,960 --> 03:26:36,000
liability on part of the county
uh as far as litter violation cases

2525
03:26:32,720 --> 03:26:38,080
the court was a little backed up with
the

2526
03:26:36,319 --> 03:26:40,479
covered restrictions and the in-person
hearings but we're back on track with

2527
03:26:39,600 --> 03:26:44,399
those now
we had 10 leader violation cases heard

2528
03:26:43,520 --> 03:26:51,200
the other day on
the 8th of this month and 10 judgments

2529
03:26:48,080 --> 03:26:55,120
uh in our favor in all cases
there are six others that are in the

2530
03:26:53,439 --> 03:26:59,040
process of
service and everything before those

2531
03:26:56,640 --> 03:27:04,640
hearings are set and i drafted three new
leader complaints just uh

2532
03:27:02,160 --> 03:27:10,479
last week and those will be filed
shortly

2533
03:27:06,560 --> 03:27:14,479
as far as the opioid litigation
many of you all may be aware over in

2534
03:27:13,200 --> 03:27:19,439
sullivan county
uh chancellor moody actually granted a

2535
03:27:17,359 --> 03:27:22,560
default judgment
in favor of the plaintiffs which is us

2536
03:27:21,680 --> 03:27:27,120
and all the other
season counties in the first three

2537
03:27:25,120 --> 03:27:30,239
judicial districts in tennessee
a couple weeks ago or last week that

2538
03:27:29,359 --> 03:27:36,720
default
uh judgment was granted uh

2539
03:27:33,279 --> 03:27:36,720
essentially just ruling that

2540
03:27:36,960 --> 03:27:42,800
the pharmaceutical companies were liable
and now

2541
03:27:40,239 --> 03:27:46,000
the only issue that remains is uh for
how much money

2542
03:27:44,080 --> 03:27:49,600
and that's going to be a jury trial and
i believe it's i believe it's set for

2543
03:27:47,680 --> 03:27:57,520
july
of course there may be some appeals or

2544
03:27:53,680 --> 03:28:01,359
various tactics that may lengthen that
some more it's already been going on a

2545
03:27:58,960 --> 03:28:06,640
few years but we're talking about
you know multi millions of dollars at

2546
03:28:04,239 --> 03:28:10,160
stake so i'm sure
everything will be tried that can be

2547
03:28:08,160 --> 03:28:15,760
tried but as as as far as we're standing
right now everything is positive

2548
03:28:12,479 --> 03:28:20,319
uh there were a couple of new lawsuits
filed against county this past

2549
03:28:17,279 --> 03:28:26,000
month one from an inmate former inmate
mr lanie markland who alleged

2550
03:28:24,080 --> 03:28:28,800
excessive force was used against him
that's in the very early stages in

2551
03:28:27,680 --> 03:28:36,479
district court
in greenville uh second

2552
03:28:32,880 --> 03:28:41,600
lawsuit was basically a statewide class
action suit

2553
03:28:38,960 --> 03:28:46,479
against every county in tennessee for a
procedural issue on dui arrests

2554
03:28:44,239 --> 03:28:51,760
and both both of those new cases the
county insurance carrier is providing

2555
03:28:49,439 --> 03:28:56,239
representation so those are both in the
very early stages

2556
03:28:53,120 --> 03:29:00,560
other than that uh my general
monthly work will be detailed in my

2557
03:28:58,800 --> 03:29:07,840
report that'll be
filed with the clerk thank you anybody

2558
03:29:03,439 --> 03:29:07,840
have any questions for tony harden

2559
03:29:13,520 --> 03:29:20,080
mr frazier um i would like your
indulgence that we

2560
03:29:17,200 --> 03:29:23,600
uh and put forth a motion that we
empower the county mayor to

2561
03:29:21,680 --> 03:29:26,880
negotiate on behalf of the county
commission in the county

2562
03:29:25,120 --> 03:29:31,920
with the joint economic and community
development board to

2563
03:29:28,560 --> 03:29:34,800
structure a uh or begin the structuring
of

2564
03:29:32,399 --> 03:29:40,319
and budgeting for a economic community
development

2565
03:29:36,000 --> 03:29:40,319
director and potentially subordinates

2566
03:29:43,040 --> 03:29:46,720
okay we have a motion by mr frazier

2567
03:29:50,000 --> 03:29:58,880
any discussion is that all the details
we're going to get

2568
03:29:55,439 --> 03:30:03,760
just a motion we don't we don't know
anything about

2569
03:30:01,120 --> 03:30:07,200
structure salaries whatever whatever we
could stay

2570
03:30:04,319 --> 03:30:12,160
all night on that one correct i suggest
you come back with a

2571
03:30:08,720 --> 03:30:15,120
plan uh that's what this is to set up
charlie is to

2572
03:30:13,200 --> 03:30:20,880
work with the joint economic community
development board where the city sits at

2573
03:30:17,520 --> 03:30:26,560
to get the plan started and see how they
want to proceed or if they even want to

2574
03:30:23,359 --> 03:30:31,040
proceed let me ask this question i saw
that

2575
03:30:27,520 --> 03:30:34,319
net rep was not in on the uh
budget request does anybody know why

2576
03:30:33,279 --> 03:30:38,560
they're closing
all right they're closing as far as i

2577
03:30:35,920 --> 03:30:43,439
know i think they actually requested
some money

2578
03:30:40,319 --> 03:30:47,200
well they just uh we didn't
we're not appropriating anything for

2579
03:30:45,120 --> 03:30:51,680
this chair is that it
we were not to that yet they just

2580
03:30:49,200 --> 03:30:57,439
announced 200 jobs
ride with who'd ride with who provides

2581
03:30:54,880 --> 03:30:57,439
jobs

2582
03:31:04,000 --> 03:31:11,439
ride with who provides jobs and if you
can't drive

2583
03:31:08,160 --> 03:31:17,359
30 miles 246 people used to drive from
here to eastman

2584
03:31:13,359 --> 03:31:17,359
and it's a lot shorter to telford

2585
03:31:18,560 --> 03:31:24,800
you're going to get some of those jobs
if you're blind

2586
03:31:21,840 --> 03:31:29,840
yes mr johnson i just you know they can
speak about net rep all they want to

2587
03:31:26,640 --> 03:31:34,560
you know we have today that spent 320
000 in our budget to them

2588
03:31:32,960 --> 03:31:38,239
now commissioners tell me what you've
got in return

2589
03:31:36,319 --> 03:31:41,040
they didn't find no job somebody else
found it they're on the caboose that at

2590
03:31:40,080 --> 03:31:46,399
the end of the tr
end of the train they always ride

2591
03:31:43,600 --> 03:31:46,399
they're worthless

2592
03:31:48,640 --> 03:31:53,120
any more discussion on commissioner
frazier's motion

2593
03:31:56,860 --> 03:31:59,959
[Music]

2594
03:32:00,720 --> 03:32:12,160
mark blavins yes robert aka
no nancy brown

2595
03:32:08,720 --> 03:32:16,319
yes my kill
no specific information it's a no from

2596
03:32:15,040 --> 03:32:24,239
me
julie gwen no

2597
03:32:20,000 --> 03:32:30,640
brad johnson no
mark taster no

2598
03:32:27,279 --> 03:32:40,160
charles von cannon no
isaiah grimes dave yes

2599
03:32:35,840 --> 03:32:47,279
prophet noah austin james
ross garland yes

2600
03:32:43,279 --> 03:32:47,279
layla ward no

2601
03:32:47,439 --> 03:32:57,600
ginger holdren yes
randall jenkins yes

2602
03:32:53,760 --> 03:33:04,239
gary bailey oh
travis hill yes

2603
03:33:00,880 --> 03:33:12,160
john your color no
danny mcintyre yes

2604
03:33:08,000 --> 03:33:20,479
aaron fraser yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins

2605
03:33:15,439 --> 03:33:20,479
no thomas prophet

2606
03:33:30,840 --> 03:33:33,840
now

2607
03:33:37,200 --> 03:33:41,600
10 years is 13 knows motion failed

2608
03:33:42,319 --> 03:33:49,439
i'm not doing anything else trying to
get economic development in this county

2609
03:33:46,720 --> 03:33:49,439
you're on your own

2610
03:33:50,640 --> 03:33:55,040
jeremy hill may i speak yes miss gwen

2611
03:33:55,520 --> 03:34:04,640
my no came from not the idea of getting
economic development

2612
03:34:02,479 --> 03:34:08,239
but if you go through any place in
carter county right now

2613
03:34:06,479 --> 03:34:10,800
what do you see on their signs and in
their windows

2614
03:34:11,040 --> 03:34:17,600
can anybody tell me that now hiring now
hiring help wanted signs

2615
03:34:17,760 --> 03:34:26,239
how many people are going to come here
and start up a business when they cannot

2616
03:34:22,000 --> 03:34:29,279
field help my business has this problem
every place that i know has this problem

2617
03:34:28,880 --> 03:34:33,040
i am
absolutely not knocking economic

2618
03:34:31,120 --> 03:34:37,120
development because i
i think there's room for that but i

2619
03:34:35,359 --> 03:34:40,479
think our bigger pandemic is the fact
that everybody's lazy and nobody wants

2620
03:34:38,800 --> 03:34:45,200
to work
because the jobs are out there high

2621
03:34:43,439 --> 03:34:49,840
paying jobs low paying jobs
mid jobs nobody wants to work

2622
03:34:50,080 --> 03:34:57,200
that is my biggest that's my biggest
concern with that

2623
03:34:54,000 --> 03:35:01,120
and i you know
i just wanted to put that out there

2624
03:35:03,600 --> 03:35:06,880
any other commissioner comments

2625
03:35:07,279 --> 03:35:12,239
i would like to say i mean that's i
don't know

2626
03:35:10,640 --> 03:35:17,520
if he was saying that's just for
elizabethan but you know it's happening

2627
03:35:14,160 --> 03:35:22,960
everywhere kingsport john city
uh it's everywhere and you know until

2628
03:35:21,120 --> 03:35:27,200
we stop getting free money meaning get
nobody to work

2629
03:35:24,160 --> 03:35:30,479
so exactly
and the problem is i don't want to jump

2630
03:35:28,880 --> 03:35:34,319
into spending the kind of money we're
going to have to spend for a director in

2631
03:35:32,000 --> 03:35:39,439
this full program
and then it not get us anywhere if we're

2632
03:35:36,479 --> 03:35:44,319
going to do it at least put a cap on it
i mean if we don't get anything back in

2633
03:35:42,000 --> 03:35:50,319
maybe two years then
you know maybe re-evaluate it

2634
03:35:48,560 --> 03:35:53,680
two years doesn't even scratch the
surface you've got it's generally

2635
03:35:52,000 --> 03:35:56,399
five to ten years before you start
seeing a return

2636
03:35:57,120 --> 03:36:02,479
that's a big gamble with the taxpayer
money when you can't find help to fill

2637
03:36:01,040 --> 03:36:06,319
the business
it's not about finding help to fill the

2638
03:36:04,160 --> 03:36:09,120
businesses you've got tourism that's got
to be covered and recreational

2639
03:36:07,840 --> 03:36:12,399
development
not only and as well as economic

2640
03:36:11,200 --> 03:36:16,560
development
br e's business retention and expansion

2641
03:36:14,560 --> 03:36:20,000
keeping businesses from leaving
entrepreneurship classes in the high

2642
03:36:18,319 --> 03:36:23,359
schools small business
incubator that's all the stuff that's

2643
03:36:21,520 --> 03:36:26,479
got to be taken care of
well see none of that was presented when

2644
03:36:24,960 --> 03:36:28,880
we talked about it and they gave us that
outline

2645
03:36:27,439 --> 03:36:35,359
i think more information would most
certainly be helpful to make it

2646
03:36:31,600 --> 03:36:38,800
thank you well maybe it was before i
came on board i'm not sure

2647
03:36:40,720 --> 03:36:43,600
anyone else

2648
03:36:45,120 --> 03:36:49,840
motion to adjourn everybody have a great
evening thank you all