[0:26] public access
for the protection of the health safety
[0:28] and welfare of the public due to the
ongoing covenant team pandemic
[0:32] so with that being said madame clark
call the roll please willie campbell
[0:36] here mark blevins here robert aka
anthony brown mike hill
[0:44] here nancy brown
[0:49] julie quinn hi
bradley johnson here mark kester
[0:57] here charles von cannon president
isaiah grindstaff here jerry prophet
[1:04] here
austin james
[1:11] austin james ross garland
here layla ward
[1:18] what is that ginger holden
here randall jenkins
[1:24] here gary bailey here
travis hill here sanja culler
[1:32] where's that daniel mcintyre here
aaron frazier here robin mckamey
[1:39] here kelly collins here
thomas prophet here austin james
[1:48] madam clerk i think austin said he may
not make it tonight
[1:51] okay foreign
[1:59] thank you next time agenda is approval
of the agenda
[2:03] for deletions mr chairman yes sir mr
bailey
[2:08] is there any way that i could address
the commission before committee reports
[2:13] uh for about five minutes
yes i don't think that'll be a problem
[2:17] unless anybody has an objection to that
will pencil in commissioner bailey uh
[2:22] after the mayoral report
if that's okay with everybody
[2:30] nobody has anything else i'll accept the
motion for the amended agenda
[2:34] motion to prove the agenda mark blevins
first district
[2:38] second thank you motion by mr blevins
second by miss brown any discussion
[2:45] hearing none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell
[2:48] uh mark blevins uh robert a cub
yes auntie brown yes
[2:56] mike hill yes
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
[3:04] mark tester yes charles von cannon
aye isaiah grindstaff yes
[3:11] jerry prophet austin james ross garland
yes lady award yes
[3:19] ginger holden yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes travis hill
[3:27] yes jonathan keller yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
[3:34] yes robin mckamey yes
kelly collins yes i was profit
[3:41] yes thank you
before we move into opening prayer i
[3:46] just need to make a quick announcement
uh
[3:47] to let anybody know who may be here for
a public hearing for a rezoning request
[3:52] that has been moved to may i believe
we've failed to
[3:55] uh publicize that for the public hearing
so that will be in may of 2021
[4:00] so now we'll move on to the opening
prayer with commissioner willie campbell
[4:03] and then that will be followed by the
pledge of allegiance by commissioner
[4:05] kelly collins
heavenly father god of lords about our
[4:09] heads today lord and giving you honor
and thanks for this day that you've
[4:12] given us lord
god we just thank you today lord that we
[4:17] had the privilege lord
to bow our heads and call upon the
[4:20] precious savior
lord tonight we do pray lord for each
[4:23] thing is said and done lord that we do
it in your will
[4:26] god we do pray for each commissioner
lord it says on these boards
[4:30] god that you just blessed them lord
tonight we pray for those who are on the
[4:34] front line of this covenant 19 lord
and the ones that have lost family
[4:38] members god we pray lord
god that you comfort their hearts lord
[4:42] you said if they call upon you god
you've come for that heart
[4:45] lord we know that there's trouble on
every hand this day lord
[4:48] and and all of our world god we just
pray today lord that you have your hands
[4:52] upon each one have your anointing upon
them
[4:55] god we could never give you enough
praise and honor lord for the prayers
[4:58] that you've answered
the miracles that you've worked in each
[5:01] one of our lives
lord we're here tonight lord just to
[5:04] give you honor and praise and glory for
it all for us in christ's name we pray
[5:08] amen
[5:13] salute pledge i pledge allegiance
[5:31] with liberty and justice
[5:40] next on the agenda the the acceptance of
many minutes from the march meeting
[5:47] a motion to approve i'll make that
motion
[5:50] randall jenkins six i'll second that
isaiah ground staff
[5:54] all right motion by mr jenkins second mr
grindstaff any additions or deletions
[6:02] hearing none madam clerk call the roll
please
[6:07] willie campbell mark blevins
uh robert aco yes
[6:13] nancy brown yes mike hill
yes julie gwen yes bradley johnson
[6:21] yeah mark tester yes
charles von cannon aye isaiah grimstad
[6:28] yes great prophet here austin james
ross garland yes layla ward
[6:39] laila ward yes ginger holdren
yes randall jenkins yes
[6:47] gary bailey yes travis hill
yes send your caller abstain
[6:57] daniel mcintyre yes
yes robin mckamey yes
[7:06] billy collins yes thomas prophet
yes sonya how did you vote
[7:14] i abstained i was absent okay
[7:20] okay otherwise thank you next item on
the agenda's approval of notaries and
[7:28] bonds
ashley woods melissa joyner louis carty
[7:34] stephen j head lori l gil hilbert
l christa brown tina bowers
[7:41] tammy lee a santam
kathy bales edgar l presnell and add
[7:48] this one to your list to sharon w
phillips motion to approve
[7:53] thank you to my mr fraser second by mr
blevins
[7:58] any discussion hearing none madam clerk
call the role please
[8:05] willie campbell mark blevins uh
robert a calf yes nancy brown
[8:11] yes mike hill yes
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
[8:18] yeah mark tester
[8:23] yes charles von cannon yes
isaiah grant staff yes jerry prophet
[8:31] ross garland yes layla ward
yes ginger holdren yes
[8:39] randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill yes
[8:46] sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre
yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
[8:55] yes billy collins yes
[9:00] thomas prophet yes
all eyes promotion past thank you next
[9:06] on the agenda i will recognize
commissioner garland to introduce our
[9:09] next guest he wants to take control here
yeah thank you chairman he'll um just
[9:14] want to welcome
this group we've we've been waiting on
[9:17] them for a while we've uh
actually got friends uh miss joy mcrae
[9:22] our new director on i think june was
that's when that was and so she's been
[9:26] with us for a while
been doing a fantastic job i think uh mr
[9:30] level is here david leveaux also from
security federal he's our chairman
[9:34] and luke's going to present also but um
happy to have them
[9:37] they've been working hard and they can
tell it's all about it but we're proud
[9:40] of of all the work they've been doing so
uh i'll turn it over to miss joy i know
[9:44] she's here or
david whoever wants to start us out hey
[9:48] thanks so much i'm actually going to let
lou kick it off and so he can tell you
[9:51] all about what's going on with tourism
luke go ahead you can screen to share
[9:56] yeah
can you all hear me all right
[10:01] share my screen here
hopefully this works
[10:13] another cool dream
[10:16] terrorism
[10:20] um yeah my name is luke freeman i am the
director of tourism at the chamber of
[10:26] commerce i appreciate y'all letting us
join you today but uh just wanted to
[10:30] kind of share with you some of the
things that
[10:32] we've been up to the past year or so and
just kind of give you an update so for
[10:38] starters
this is kind of our snapshot of tourism
[10:42] and economic impact from tourism in 2019
i know that's a little dated at this
[10:48] point but that's um
what we have the most recent numbers on
[10:52] we usually get those in the fall
but we saw we were 40th out of the 95
[10:58] counties
in tennessee based off economic impact
[11:02] generated 42.17 million dollars in
direct
[11:05] tourism expenditures that creates 218
jobs produces 6.59 million dollars in
[11:12] payroll 2.6 million in local tax revenue
2.59 million in state tax revenue
[11:20] and then just as a result of that every
household in carter county is able to
[11:24] pay
200 less dollars out of pocket than they
[11:27] would otherwise if we didn't have that
uh
[11:29] that money supplementing our income
so that's great um as i think
[11:36] maybe ross mentioned we moved our
offices for the chamber and our visitor
[11:40] center downtown
this past year in october we're now at
[11:45] 615 east elk avenue
and uh right there in downtown we're
[11:50] excited to be there
the part of downtown where visitors can
[11:53] find us real easily as they're walking
around
[11:56] and down and so if you haven't
haven't been by there yet definitely
[12:00] come in and see us
really excited to be here um
[12:06] 2020 was a really crazy year i know for
everybody but
[12:09] particularly for tourism just like
everybody else we saw
[12:12] a big dip in the spring as everyone just
kind of shut everything down and we
[12:16] closed our visitor center for
a couple of months out of the abundance
[12:20] of caution and
trying to keep everybody safe but then
[12:24] since kind of spring
summer time we've seen an increase in
[12:27] tourism people
as people have realized that carter
[12:30] county is a place you can come you can
be outdoors you can travel safely
[12:34] and so that's been really good i'll talk
a little more about that
[12:38] but one of the things that we had to
kind of help us
[12:42] through that dip and to help us recover
from that is we received a grant of
[12:46] about 31 000 from its federal money but
through the state
[12:52] provided us through the care act to
kind of help with that recovery and we
[12:58] use that to do a marketing campaign
to market carter county as a safe place
[13:02] that people could
come and encourage them to travel to
[13:05] visit carter county safely
we did a banner ads display
[13:11] ad campaign that got over 2 million
impressions
[13:14] we did some print ads and good
housekeeping magazine
[13:17] women's day magazine um travel taste and
tour
[13:21] so i think this is one of the ads from
travelation tour that had a um
[13:26] write-up as well with it
we did some facebook advertising and
[13:34] just several different things like that
we were able to spend that money on
[13:38] we had to be spent before the end of the
year and so we
[13:42] kind of rushed that and did that real
quick but it it turned out really well
[13:45] i think it got a lot of eyeballs on
carter county
[13:49] a really good increase over the winter
compared to
[13:52] past years and i think that's probably
in large part due to that we also
[13:58] received a grant
for this year from the tennessee
[14:01] department of tourist development
which was a matching grant for marketing
[14:05] purposes that we're also using
to do some facebook marketing and
[14:10] search engine campaigns as well to
kind of keep promoting to people who are
[14:16] searching for things related to
visiting the mountains or lakes or
[14:21] things like that
uh some of the other projects we've
[14:25] participated in
and that was another one that adds we
[14:29] did was the
walnut mountain trailhead that the
[14:34] project of the backcountry horsemen
um they did this up near rhone mountain
[14:39] it's a
lot of volunteer labor and did a lot of
[14:43] the work themselves
with money to buy gravel and
[14:47] bring in heavy equipment to put that in
but that's going to be a really great
[14:51] place for
people to park to ride horses there on
[14:55] our mountain trails
ride mountain bikes hike it's just
[14:58] another great infrastructure
that we can add to give people more of
[15:02] an ability to get out and enjoy those
spaces
[15:04] and hopefully spread out even more and
not everybody go to carter's gap or
[15:09] something like that but have some
different places to go
[15:13] we also recently just this past week
agreed to help
[15:17] go betsy with their project to build a
boat ramp
[15:20] at their highway 400 lovers lane
again we think that's going to be a
[15:24] really great project for tourism
just help people get on the river help
[15:30] keep things safe
spread people out i think that'll be a
[15:33] good thing
we're continuing to distribute our
[15:36] brochures we send those throughout the
knoxville metro area the tri-cities area
[15:41] the north carolina high country area
as well as the five closest tennessee
[15:46] welcome centers
and our brochure actually won an award
[15:49] it was the original
award winner in the 2020 international
[15:53] best brochure awards
from the international association of
[15:57] visitor information providers
so that was really cool we were excited
[16:00] about that we just learned about that a
week or two ago as well
[16:06] and talking about some of those
different digital marketing campaigns
[16:09] we've been doing
um we've been doing these this is an
[16:13] example of one of our facebook ads
those have reached over 1.1 million
[16:18] people
and got about 45 000 clicks
[16:23] through um facebook and people
who click on that who are interested in
[16:28] learning more and want to come visit
and then our search engine marketing
[16:33] over 000 187.000
and a click-through rate of over five
[16:38] percent and that's just like when you go
to google or whatever search engine
[16:42] you type in you know cabins in the
mountain
[16:45] and then you see those sponsored ads
showing up at the top so we're showing
[16:48] up in those
listings and uh we're doing that in the
[16:52] atlanta and nashville markets
to encourage people from some of those
[16:55] kind of drivable distances to come in
and visit and when they're searching for
[16:59] those kind of things that
you know we can tell them we've got that
[17:03] here come visit us
[17:07] a couple of events we were able to do um
this past year we
[17:12] hosted the rain grown as we do every
year by grace from
[17:16] elizabethan to the tougher one mountain
and this year we were able to bring over
[17:20] the criterium portion of that
johnson city omnium as well and um
[17:25] we're going to be able to do it in
johnson city we said we can host that
[17:28] here in carter county
and so we had that in september it was a
[17:31] great event and
everybody loved it so much that we're
[17:34] bringing it back this year and we're
gonna
[17:37] i know you've already heard about that
and you all donated some of the money
[17:40] for that which we certainly appreciate
to make it the carter county on him this
[17:44] year we're very excited about that
that'll be the
[17:47] first weekend in june it's the fifth and
sixth
[17:50] that uh we'll have those racers they
come in from all over the country all
[17:53] over the world even
and we're excited about having that
[17:57] we're gonna do the packet pickup
at our offices that friday night kind of
[18:01] in conjunction with the
main streets first friday event and so
[18:06] that'll be a really good thing they've
also heard we're
[18:10] bringing a half marathon
miles half marathon by the goose chase
[18:17] they do a lot of the
local races and stuff like that that of
[18:20] course brings people from all over the
region
[18:23] to come and participate we're excited
about that um
[18:28] if you want to run and walk sign up for
it it'll be a lot of fun
[18:32] and again we're doing the packet pickup
at our offices and going to bring people
[18:35] downtown
[18:40] we lost you luke okay
am i back yet yeah you're back
[18:46] okay um
i don't know where you lost me but i was
[18:52] just talking about the music in miles
half marathon
[18:55] and that was pretty much where we lost
you as soon as you mentioned the goose
[18:57] chase
okay yeah that's that's another one
[19:01] we're going to kind of do
on a friday night have packet pick up
[19:04] and
do some of the just kind of
[19:09] get encourage people to come participate
in the first friday event and then come
[19:12] back on saturday and of course those
people
[19:15] spend money go eat a restaurant um spend
time in our beautiful town and we're
[19:19] excited about that
[19:27] have you developed uh data on where
these people are staying
[19:32] are they staying in bread breakfast or
they're staying and
[19:35] can't are they camping or they're
obviously not staying in the motel
[19:42] well we do get some of that information
we see that um some people do stay in
[19:45] the motels
uh there's of course a lot of airbnbs uh
[19:49] cabins we've got places like b cliff
that has i think 13 or 14 different
[19:54] cabins lots of great places to stay
places like boots off that have hostels
[19:58] and camping
uh the watauga dam campground so you
[20:02] know it's all pretty spread out here in
carter county but we do have some places
[20:05] for people to stay and we do see a lot
of times
[20:08] folks will stay with us saw somebody i
think the other day that came in and
[20:11] said they'd
just driven into town or staying at camp
[20:14] stone fly up on the water river
that's like there are spots for people
[20:18] and they find places but we certainly
are in need of
[20:21] more lodging hotels and that kind of
thing in carter county
[20:26] but this is another event um the
acoustic mountain jam at boots off
[20:31] hostel and they're hosting that kind of
through hikers coming through town
[20:35] um as well as anybody locally who wants
to attend and
[20:39] hear some music and so that's another
event that we're sponsoring
[20:43] and um we're continuing to partner with
people like
[20:47] the northeast tennessee tourism
association i'm on that board we work to
[20:50] promote the whole region
including all of us here in northeast
[20:54] tennessee
we're also still part of retired
[20:57] tennessee program
which encourages people to retire here
[21:01] we see people
all the time coming into our offices
[21:04] then from
up north or out west or florida or
[21:08] wherever that
they're just looking for somewhere
[21:10] that's affordable where they can have
great cost of living and just a
[21:15] beautiful area
lots of things to do whether they like
[21:18] fishing hiking that kind of thing
so we see a lot of people coming in for
[21:22] that sort of stuff as well
but as i mentioned at the top we've been
[21:26] seeing a great increase in tourism this
past year so
[21:30] since kind of we started the recovery
from the pandemic
[21:33] people are realizing what a great area
this is we're encouraging them to come
[21:37] be safe but come travel come visit us
and we're seeing a whole lot of people
[21:42] and that's been really good i think
some of those grants and stuff we've had
[21:46] been able to help us out and we're
continuing to try and support tourism in
[21:52] whatever ways we can
but we certainly appreciate you all
[21:55] support um
i'll say you've got my contact
[21:58] information there feel free to come by
our office i'm normally there
[22:01] during the week or give me a call shoot
me an email i'll be happy to answer any
[22:05] questions you have
um and now i'll turn it over to joy and
[22:09] i think we'll take it from here oh
thanks let me see if i can share my
[22:14] screen
while i'm doing that i know david
[22:17] leveaux is on here and
he would like to say hello and say thank
[22:21] you to all of you abby can you help me
share my
[22:23] oh i got it yes hello everyone this is
uh david leveaux
[22:28] i wanted to thank everybody for your
support
[22:32] of our tourism group and chamber of
commerce i wanted to thank
[22:37] mayor woodby for her support on some of
the programs we're doing and of course
[22:42] uh ross being part of our board um
we thank you also as the commission has
[22:48] uh
helped us with bringing that bike race
[22:51] and providing some funds to help assure
that stays here in carter county
[22:57] and hopefully you were able to see with
luke's presentation
[23:01] all the neat things that we are
advertising and bringing into this
[23:05] county
we're really excited uh the outdoors and
[23:10] the natural beauty of
carter county has really been an
[23:13] attraction in itself
and uh we've been able to get the word
[23:17] out that it is safe space here
and so many people are looking for the
[23:22] outdoors
rather than the metropolitan cities and
[23:27] uh large large arenas uh especially
this past year and uh we've really
[23:33] experienced that
and and businesses in town have
[23:37] experienced that as well
so uh thank you everybody for your
[23:41] partnership
and support and look forward to doing
[23:45] more with you
in the future thanks david
[23:50] hey so i'm just going to echo a few
things that luke has said but i wanted
[23:53] to give you an update on what
chamber's been doing you know we're all
[23:56] in the same office but we have found
ways that we can partner together
[24:00] and work more efficiently for our
community and
[24:03] luke totally stole my picture and i'm so
mad because i was going to show you a
[24:06] picture of the ins
outside of our building but i'll show
[24:09] you the cool outside of our building if
you haven't seen it
[24:12] we have a webcam so if you are out of
town or you just want to know
[24:16] one of our board members tells me that
he looks at this all the time it's kevin
[24:20] peters all the time uh if you wonder
what the weather is you can watch our
[24:23] webcam it's on our website
you can also see it on wjhlw they
[24:28] feature it
all the time on the news on the weather
[24:30] camp and then we just got featured on
the weather channel
[24:33] which we think it's super exciting um
this is a steel feed from it though but
[24:37] if you ever want to know it's happening
on elk avenue please
[24:40] feel free to use our webcam and check it
out for yourself
[24:44] so you've seen the outside of our
beautiful building you know it's on top
[24:47] of our beautiful building
these are some of the things that you
[24:49] can see that are happening inside of our
beautiful building
[24:52] um i just want to talk to you about some
of the things that we've been able to
[24:55] offer for our members
um we have re-van
[25:00] all the programs that we offer for our
membership one of the things that we do
[25:03] is we've offered connection days for our
members who
[25:06] we saw something with covid that we've
probably never seen before that a lot of
[25:10] our members
just piecemeal together what they could
[25:13] and they found themselves
not really sure how to do e-commerce
[25:16] nobody knew how to do zoom in 2019
as well as we do now and that's true for
[25:20] a lot of our members especially when
their whole mission and their whole
[25:25] business is
is buying and sell goods whether it was
[25:28] a restaurant
or a merchandise store or retail or
[25:31] insurance
or even with real estate being able to
[25:34] be efficient on zoom and be efficient in
the things that they were doing every
[25:38] day
in this covered world was something we
[25:40] needed to be part of so
we opened a thing called connection days
[25:44] you can see a picture of seth taking a
picture of tracy
[25:46] and you know gave a chance for our
members to
[25:50] just come in and get their things put
back together we saw a lot of folks that
[25:53] couldn't figure out how to make one
thing linked to another whether it was a
[25:56] paypal to their e-commerce page
or their social media to their website
[26:00] or their google the google maps to
something else
[26:03] so they came in spent some time with us
we got it all cleaned up and sent them
[26:06] back to do
great work we've been able to host uh
[26:10] several
meetings in our building just local
[26:13] civic groups we had the rotary club in
recently
[26:15] it was great to have them in for lunch
you see a bunch of angry teenagers down
[26:19] at the bottom
was our chamber youth ambassador group
[26:22] uh mayor woodbe had the opportunity
to come speak to them uh last semester
[26:26] she spoke to him on soon but this
semester she spoke to him live
[26:29] we have a member who teaches dog class
so she's hosting her dog classes you can
[26:33] see
that little dog right there that
[26:35] graduated and then we've been able to do
some things with downtown as well with
[26:39] main street
whether it be small business saturday
[26:41] and we did gift wrap from one of our
non-profit members
[26:44] and we've participated in pretty much
all the events that have happened
[26:48] downtown and continue to do that as they
come available
[26:59] here we go so one of the programs that
we have that i talked about before was
[27:03] our chamber youth ambassador program
mayor would be thank you again for
[27:06] coming over and speaking to my young
ladies this time
[27:09] y'all last semester i had 25 students
from all five high schools so all four
[27:13] counties
the and the city high school and some
[27:15] homeschool kids um this semester i have
all young ladies and it's just as
[27:19] exhausting
it's all girls it's all it's so much fun
[27:23] it's great to really give them an
opportunity to learn about why carter
[27:26] county is a great place to live
work and play we have four different
[27:30] days and we do it each semester we have
tourism day industry day healthcare day
[27:34] and community day
that they get to find out what makes
[27:37] carter county so great
who are the people that are making it
[27:40] work and they they kind of get a better
idea of
[27:42] what careers may be available here in
carter county and if anything have a
[27:46] healthy respect for some of the careers
that
[27:48] may not be for them but they may have to
encounter one day so that's one of the
[27:52] things that we've looked forward to
we'll continue with that it's been
[27:56] really successful and we're glad that we
brought it back
[27:58] we've had great response from all of our
city schools and all of our county
[28:01] schools
that we're going to offer another
[28:03] program this summer
boss lady is new we started a women's
[28:08] networking group
um it's for any women any age any level
[28:12] we you know any level that they're at in
their career and we meet monthly
[28:16] we just had our enneagram workshop we
had 54 ladies that came and learned all
[28:21] about how to communicate with others and
how to communicate
[28:24] better within their workplace we if you
want to see some things get done
[28:28] go to a group and ask give them a
problem and
[28:32] just step back and i bet you will solve
it so that's been great to see
[28:36] women from all different walks of life
and
[28:39] all different in all different areas
really get together
[28:42] and and find a way to make our region
great and talk about what makes our
[28:46] region great
so we'd really love to have a boss lady
[28:52] milligan college that's our next event
is our we're back to chamber breakfast
[28:55] so we host our first
virtual hybrid breakfast last month
[29:01] um we hosted at our building we had
elizabeth and art alliance
[29:05] that was in our building that hosted
chamber we keep the numbers small you
[29:08] know we're a trout small chamber anyway
but we also offer a virtual option
[29:12] we'll probably do virtual forever not
just because of covid but because some
[29:16] of you live in roane mountain
and it snows a lot here in february so
[29:20] what a great opportunity when it's
snowing
[29:22] or you're trying to get from one place
to another or if you're like me and you
[29:26] got three kids and somebody has broken
their retainer and you gotta go deal
[29:29] with it at eight o'clock in the morning
you can still have an opportunity to
[29:33] zoom in and be present and still have a
great way to connect
[29:36] this is our annual joint breakfast we're
partnering with the johnson city chamber
[29:40] we'll be at milligan college
it's one of the biggest breakfasts that
[29:42] we have this year and it will be
important but again we will offer that
[29:46] zoom
it's a great opportunity for our members
[29:48] to meet some folks that they might not
meet otherwise to do business
[29:52] and to do networking and to learn more
about what's going on at milligan
[29:55] university so upcoming events derby by
the doe
[30:00] is may the first uh that's a fundraising
event that we're doing all the proceeds
[30:04] go towards
a lot of our programs that we offer each
[30:07] year what leadership class starts on
thursday i know
[30:11] uh mayor woodbe will be speaking to my
folks then
[30:14] level up is coming up that's for our
brand new baby entrepreneurs that
[30:18] really just need to know the ins and
outs of how to do business
[30:23] our next level business class is for our
folks that have been in business for a
[30:26] few years
[30:31] do they do they hire do they need hr
things like that
[30:34] carter county 101 is specifically for
our folks that are new
[30:38] like luke said we've seen people move
here from all over
[30:41] the united states in the world um they
all don't know the secret menu at pals
[30:46] they don't know how to get to anywhere
in town they don't know the shortcuts
[30:49] they don't know what day
trash day is they don't know you know
[30:52] they don't know the things that we as
locals know so it's basically
[30:56] how to live like a local in carter
county um to kind of give out that
[30:59] information
like i said our chamber youth ambassador
[31:02] program it's gone so well we're going to
offer a summer session
[31:05] um it's that one will just be june 28th
29th and 30th for our students
[31:10] we have a lot of student athletes that
wanted to participate but they could not
[31:14] miss
one more day of school so we're offering
[31:16] it specifically at that time
when it's tws double a blackout that
[31:20] they can come i know all of you look at
the thing
[31:22] straight at the bottom yes legislative
breakfast it's may 14th
[31:26] from 9 to 10 30 a.m at tcat governor lee
will be present and will be speaking
[31:31] tickets go on sale in the morning i know
that john thompson
[31:34] and the star on this call i will be
sending you a press release in just a
[31:37] minute
um but we're excited to have that come
[31:41] up this year
last year our legislative breakfast got
[31:44] pushed and pushed and pushed and we
ended up having it in september
[31:48] so if you are coming and you know that
you're coming and you want a
[31:51] ticket let me know so i can mark it
before they all get sold
[31:56] do you all have any questions for me
that i could possibly answer about
[32:00] chamber
or anything that's been going on with us
[32:04] you can always reach me at chamber i'm
usually there sometimes i'm not running
[32:07] around
um you can always email me at chamber or
[32:10] call me directly
joy this is mayor whitney
[32:16] hello hey i just wanted to say thank you
to you and david and your team for a
[32:21] wonderful job that you're doing
for not just promoting carter county and
[32:25] tourism regionally and locally but
for the programs that you're offering
[32:29] from our youth to our businesses
to our business leaders um all
[32:33] throughout that's just a plethora of
things to get involved in and i'm very
[32:37] excited to see
how active the chamber is i think that's
[32:40] great news and
especially during a pandemic so um
[32:44] i just want to say kudos to you guys and
for thank you for all your hard work
[32:48] it's truly appreciated
thank you i appreciate that and i
[32:51] appreciate you coming over mayor woodbe
is a brave lady
[32:54] to walk in that room with those girls
and tell them the truth
[32:57] um i have seen many many flustered but
we appreciate you guys and we really
[33:01] appreciate you believing in us
and giving us the opportunity to bring
[33:04] some of these big events that luke
talked about
[33:06] and reinvest back into our community
[33:12] no other questions we will leave we will
see ourselves out
[33:16] if we have any questions for for joey or
luke or david
[33:21] i think i've got one uh luke joy you i
noticed your
[33:25] the uh the click-through rates that you
were having a lot of your ads
[33:29] have you been able to get those to
continue to trend upwards are they
[33:31] staying about static or
[33:36] luck i'll let you answer that yeah we've
been seeing those go up
[33:39] it's um this is something we just kind
of started
[33:43] i guess about a year ago and so it's
there was kind of an introductory period
[33:47] where we're figuring out what worked and
what didn't work but then we see
[33:50] really good really good race since then
yeah
[33:54] the google ad rate click-through rate is
really that's really good the facebook
[33:57] was a little bit low i think
but uh the other one was great yeah we
[34:02] just started the
facebook i want to say and it hasn't had
[34:05] quite as much time as the other to get
optimized and
[34:08] still kind of dial that in but yeah
those are it's going really well
[34:13] awesome you guys are doing great thank
you thank you thanks
[34:17] anybody else all right well guys we
appreciate y'all coming on board keeping
[34:22] us updated and
thanks for the fantastic job y'all doing
[34:26] bye thank you all next we'll move on to
item nine which is resolution
[34:31] we'll turn over to uh tony hard and he
wants to read that resolution or a
[34:35] caption of it or whatever he wants to do
[34:39] yes sir i'm going to keep my video off
so hopefully the internet will keep
[34:43] working but this this is simply a
resolution authorize the
[34:47] county mayor to make and sign an
application for grant funds from
[34:51] tennessee housing development
agency for the home rehabilitation grant
[34:56] this is another round which we've gotten
several times before
[35:00] probably this time it's uh 450 000 total
this is for rehabbing low income housing
[35:07] and there's no county match required
[35:11] motion to approve
[35:14] motion by mr frazier said by mr blevins
any discussion
[35:20] hearing none madame call the roll please
[35:24] billy campbell uh mark blavins uh
robert david yes nancy brown
[35:31] yes mike hill yes
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
[35:38] yeah mark caster yes
trust von cannon hi isaiah grant staff
[35:45] yes jerry prophet yes
austin james ross garland
[35:51] yes layla ward yes
ginger holdren yes randall jenkins
[35:59] yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes sanja culler
[36:05] yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
[36:12] yes collins yes
thomas prophet yes all eyes
[36:20] promotion past thank you hey let me i'm
sorry to interrupt right there chairman
[36:24] hill but i know um
the date on that says april 12th and
[36:28] also adopted april 12th is is that okay
i'm sure josh can make that change but
[36:36] i made that i made that change on the
original uh
[36:40] i caught that after i sent it out for
the package but it's it's fixed on the
[36:45] original
okay just just wanted to check thank you
[36:50] josh uh are you going to cover the
forensics agreement is that gonna be
[36:53] mayor would be
[36:56] uh it doesn't matter i'm happy to
mention what i know about it
[37:00] okay yeah uh this is the uh
obviously simply amending the term and
[37:07] the uh
the rate slightly for the forensic
[37:11] uh agreement with etsu for autopsies
essentially uh as you all know when
[37:18] years passed this is sort of uh
about our only option this is an
[37:24] agreement that etsu has with many other
counties in our
[37:28] region and it does include
an incremental increase in the cost for
[37:33] medical examiner
it's slight increase but it is an
[37:38] increase
uh every year and this is a this
[37:42] agreement
is the current term and extends it for
[37:44] another two years
[37:56] there would be you want to say anything
or no that's correct all that josh said
[38:00] that was the agreement that was sent to
me i forwarded on to him
[38:04] well i'll entertain a motion to accept
it if anybody wants to do that
[38:11] i'll accept the resolution or the the
amendment to the agreement
[38:16] okay i'll second i think i'm by mr
jenkins
[38:20] any discussion
[38:24] was there any uh excuse me was there any
compensation uh for example we had 156
[38:33] kobe deaths in carter county so far
uh how did that that didn't have to be
[38:41] uh run through a medical examiner did it
if it did we're broke
[38:48] [Music]
[38:54] to my knowledge mr von kennedy it did
not i think these are
[38:58] suspicious uh or drug-related
unaccompanied deaths is generally
[39:04] uh when an autopsy is called for so i
don't believe
[39:08] that simply a coca death would have
resulted in an
[39:11] autopsy but i may be wrong on that but
in any event it did not
[39:15] change the contractual uh rate that we
pay
[39:20] i'll ask the same question i asked last
year
[39:24] who makes a determination that
an autopsy needs to be performed
[39:32] well uh mr mccann i believe it's it's it
can be the medical examiner
[39:38] uh it used to be a call that could be
made solely by the
[39:42] law enforcement agency the sheriff but i
believe
[39:46] when that law changed a few years back
it's now can be requested by the
[39:52] sheriff i believe but i think the
medical examiner is able
[39:56] to make that call on their own as well
now
[40:05] any further discussion that's
legislation from the state level that
[40:10] it changed several years ago and there
was some
[40:13] there was some pushback from local
sheriffs including ours
[40:18] uh on some of that legislation but as it
stands it's still intact
[40:23] now and the i think it's a total of
eight counties
[40:27] that uh sign this same agreement with
etsu
[40:31] and of course the bargaining power there
for the terms of the agreement is as a
[40:36] collective unit amongst those eight
counties
[40:40] and one county alone is it's kind of
hard to
[40:43] to negotiate much
[40:47] do we have any information on how many
autopsy autopsies we've had done
[40:55] i have not received that in quite some
time i know we used to get it
[41:00] at least quarterly but i haven't seen it
lately
[41:05] mayor have you seen anything no i have
not
[41:09] um josh can we amend this agreement
on our behalf to have them uh
[41:15] responsible for issuing quarterly
reports
[41:19] uh frankly i believe that's still part
of the original contract
[41:23] uh i don't know where the ball got
dropped on that i know
[41:26] uh we used to get them uh and they were
included in the
[41:31] packets at least quarterly i believe and
i i think that's just a matter of
[41:34] reaching back out to them
i don't know where that contact was lost
[41:38] but it i believe it still is part of the
original agreement
[41:41] that did that just being extended josh i
can reach out to them
[41:46] okay
[41:51] any further discussion
[41:55] hearing none madam clerk call the role
please willie campbell
[41:58] mark blevins robert daycare
abstain for calls
[42:05] nancy brown yes mike hill
yes julie glenn yes
[42:13] bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes charles von cannon yes
[42:20] isaac runs dave yes jerry prophet yes
austin james ross garland
[42:28] yes yes
yes randall jenkins yes
[42:35] gary bailey yeah travis hill
yes sandra culler yes
[42:42] daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
yes robin mckamey yes
[42:50] kelly collins yes thomas prophet
yes allies
[42:57] motion pass thank you next we'll move on
to the mayoral report with mayor patty
[43:01] woodby mayor you're recognized
thank you chairman um just got a couple
[43:06] of things
um i need as we know gary smith's
[43:09] retired and so i need to
appoint billy harrell to the 911 board
[43:14] um so i need to go ahead and make that
an appointment to get him on that board
[43:18] and i don't i don't think we have to
vote on that i can't remember
[43:22] i don't think so is that correct josh i
don't think so i don't think we do
[43:27] i just can't remember haven't done one
in a while i can't remember either but
[43:30] it wouldn't hurt
just to confirm okay
[43:36] i'll make that motion yeah
motioned by gary bailey second by gross
[43:43] garland to
uh point billy harrell to the 9-1-1
[43:46] board any discussion
[43:50] hear none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell uh
[43:54] mark blabbins robert cub yes
nancy brown yes mike hill
[44:01] yes julie gwen yes
bradley johnson
[44:08] yes charles von cannon hi
isaiah greinstein yes
[44:15] yes austin james ross garland
yes laila board yes
[44:21] ginger holdren yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes travis hill
[44:29] yes sandra culler yes
daniel mcintyre eric frazier
[44:36] yes robert mckamey yes
kelly collins yes thomas prophet
[44:43] yes allies motion pass thank you
thank you um the next thing i'll update
[44:51] the commission on is the single point of
entry that began last week it's it's
[44:55] going very well
not had a lot of complaints not really
[44:57] had a lot of upset people
and it's just something they're going to
[45:00] have to get used to first week we
security did confiscate i think six guns
[45:06] first week um just really more than
anything people
[45:10] forgetting that we we have that in place
and they were asked to take them back
[45:13] out to their vehicle
so that that did um catch at least six
[45:17] of them
um let's see and i also wanted to go
[45:20] over i know we have been discussing with
building
[45:23] grounds possible possibility of
discussions of the chamber
[45:27] the old chamber of commerce building
with the city i had shawn shanks
[45:31] go over today and look at the building
or architects
[45:34] um and it needs a lot of work
um yes they estimate the building itself
[45:41] around a hundred thousand dollars to
even begin
[45:44] it's in pretty bad shape um so that's an
update on that i don't know how the
[45:48] commission
if that's still even an option at this
[45:50] point i didn't know how in depth
it was but they did a thorough overhaul
[45:55] of it today inside and out
um it needs a lot of work is basically
[45:59] is what i've
been called a lot of work he said you're
[46:03] looking at starting at around 100
000. so that's an update on that um
[46:08] on that on that that may be something to
remove off of our list
[46:12] next thing as you know we were we are
bringing the restrooms up to ada
[46:16] standards in the courthouse
those plans are complete and the bid
[46:20] process will begin hopefully at the end
of the month first of may for that
[46:23] project to get all the restrooms up to
standard and to add two family
[46:28] restrooms to each floor that we'll be
able to use for anybody especially
[46:32] wheelchair accessible
those plans are ready um and the
[46:36] workforce development
plans which brad will be happy to hear
[46:40] we did i did receive the as bill
drawings today they're on my desk
[46:44] and we will have the final copy from the
surveyor in
[46:47] the next few weeks so that's the status
on that project we do have
[46:51] the asbia floor plans for the the whole
the entire
[46:55] both buildings um and i think that's
that's uh that's kind of all i got going
[47:00] on right now anybody's got anything for
me
[47:03] mayor brad john uh did they get copies
of the uh
[47:07] the drawings to uh dr mcavee
not yet i'm planning on setting up a
[47:14] meeting with
shawn shanks myself and whoever becomes
[47:18] the building and grounds chair
that's the next step
[47:26] any further questions for the mayor
[47:31] i hear none i will say i appreciate uh
director harrell's
[47:34] um report he put in our packets this
month that was very
[47:38] handy to see what exactly he does on his
calls yeah and he and we have decided
[47:42] that he will submit a report each month
to the commission just to kind of give
[47:46] you an idea of what
um what the office is doing and we also
[47:50] had our new employee trent start today
he's the deputy
[47:53] ema and uh he's great guy and he will
we will bring him into the commission
[47:58] next month to meet the commission since
we'll be in person
[48:02] thank you all right next we'll move on
uh this was a late edition
[48:06] commissioner gary bailey you're
recognized sure
[48:10] yes sir can we take about a five minute
break
[48:14] uh let's finish up with mr bailey and
we'll take a break before committee
[48:17] reports if that's okay
all right thank you mr chairman um
[48:22] actually i'd like to this is two parts
i'd like to address the commission with
[48:25] something
the first one is an article in the paper
[48:29] the other day about
trash in the city um
[48:34] i want everybody to know that the way
the article was wrote it basically looks
[48:37] like our county commission is not doing
its job
[48:40] or being at the landfill the problem is
that's in the city
[48:44] and i see mr estes is on there
um i'd like to just have an answer of
[48:51] why they tried to blame
the county the way that was wrote
[48:55] and the thing is that's the city's
cardboard and trash so if they're
[49:02] throwing it out and they're locking
their dumpsters
[49:04] why are they blaming the county
commission in the landfill with that
[49:08] because the article pretty much was
stating that we was not taking it
[49:13] my understanding that if it's in the
city that's their dumpsters
[49:17] they are the ones that shut them off we
have never denied taking it
[49:22] now i did have many to send an email
to the city basically telling them that
[49:27] if
we cannot get to it they are more than
[49:30] welcome to bring us that cardboard
besides going to a paper and saying that
[49:35] basically we ain't taking it because
we are not denying them
[49:40] the right to bring that to us it's just
the fact that when it's in the city the
[49:44] seediest one shutting that down
so mr estes is on there maybe we can get
[49:49] an answer
see mr thank you mr gail mr bailey i
[49:53] really appreciate being put on the spot
since i'm an audience member
[49:56] but i do appreciate the opportunity to
speak to it
[50:00] uh and i'll explain it to you this way
my understanding of the agreement which
[50:05] predates me by some time
was that when these facilities were
[50:08] opened it was a joint agreement between
the city and the county
[50:12] the city arranged to provide the land
the facilities to where they're located
[50:17] one of them's on the edge of lions field
and the other is leased
[50:21] by us from tdot and that on mill street
was built through grant money to open
[50:27] that recycling facility
we do not operate a recycling program
[50:32] forgive me for my kids in the background
we do not operate a recycling facility
[50:37] we don't have a recycling program
this was an agreement between the city
[50:40] and the county and the
the agreement was we would have the
[50:44] facility there available
and that the dumpsters there belong to
[50:47] the county and that there's three
sets of dumps or some dumpsters that are
[50:50] picked up three times a week and some
roll offs are picked up twice a week
[50:55] on numerous occasions we've had
difficulty in having those
[50:58] dumpsters empty to the point to where
the the
[51:01] recyclables were overflowing and members
of the public were leaving those
[51:05] recyclables on the ground
well that's ultimately an unacceptable
[51:10] situation
i think for anyone we don't want to see
[51:12] that happen that's one thing the other
one is if people are leaving trash and
[51:17] other items that are actually trash not
recyclables
[51:20] that's another matter and i and then i
hate that it's unfortunate
[51:24] i wish people wouldn't do that but that
wasn't the root of the problem
[51:28] the root of the problem was we need them
picked up if they're going to be open
[51:33] and we don't have the facility to do it
and we don't operate trucks to do that
[51:36] we
we don't do recyclables the agreement
[51:40] was that the county would
pick those up as needed and we've had
[51:44] we've struggled over a period of time to
get them picked up routinely this was
[51:47] really
ultimately the straw that broke the
[51:49] camel's back was that they went for a
period where ultimately that
[51:53] it just got in a terrible shape it
wasn't the first time
[51:57] it's my understanding i don't personally
deal with it that's why i have a street
[52:00] sanitation manager
and i can have him come on the next
[52:03] minute if you'd like to speak to mr
gilbert in
[52:05] directly or we both can attend the next
sanitation the landfill committee if you
[52:10] wish
you'd be more than happy to do that or
[52:12] have a dialogue or you can call my
office
[52:15] uh that i'd be more than happy to do so
but the thing is
[52:18] this is not the first time it's not the
second time it's been multiple times
[52:23] and i can have mr hilbert or his number
two jeff marlow or the administration
[52:28] assistant
kelly talley speak to how many times
[52:32] they've tried to call and have the trash
picked up
[52:34] so it's a matter of it's a win-win
we have a recycling facility in the in
[52:39] the city that city and county alike can
use
[52:42] that's a help to us i agree i like it
it's a nice thing it's a good thing for
[52:46] the environment and hey and if it keeps
trash out of the landfill that's a
[52:49] tipping fee we don't have to pay for
but also it's a winner for the county
[52:52] you run a recycling operation you all
just got
[52:55] even deeper in the recycling business
and i applaud that if there's money to
[52:59] be made
that's a winner for both of us but we
[53:02] don't pick it up that's not part of the
agreement and it's never been part of
[53:05] the agreement
so if if you're ready and willing to
[53:08] pick up the trash on a routine basis
we'll open tomorrow
[53:13] well my my point is the way it was wrote
in the paper
[53:16] if there was a problem somebody should
have come to us and basically said look
[53:19] this is it but it
it more or less just basically thrown
[53:22] out that the county is not doing
that part in the city and that's why i
[53:26] was addressing this so if there's a
problem
[53:29] you know if one of our trucks is down
i don't see a problem of four miles up
[53:35] the road
and honestly where the cardboard's going
[53:38] functionally for you is we're actually
down there behind
[53:41] near the the ball field behind tractor
supply so i mean
[53:44] it might be in an agreement but to have
the trash thrown on the ground then say
[53:49] the county's not doing their part just
i just well i appreciate that i wasn't
[53:54] throwing stones at anybody in particular
trying to make it personal
[53:58] but i got a phone call about it because
those statements were made in the
[54:01] landfill committee meeting and the
question was a fair one
[54:04] what's the situation i respect that and
understand it
[54:07] but the newspaper called my office
wanting to understand what the situation
[54:10] was
and i tried to be polite and diplomatic
[54:13] in what i said if you go back and read
those words
[54:15] i don't think i said anything
particularly pointed yes it was factual
[54:19] i'll i will say that again i know that
there's a matter of opinion as to
[54:23] what the circumstances are uh but it's
literally just
[54:27] if we can have routine service to get
those dumpsters emptied
[54:31] everything will be fine we will try to
work on that okay
[54:35] can i address all right or ask a
question is it it was a problem
[54:38] i i think i heard a little bit of it
other night during the budget hearings
[54:41] it was it because that
he had two drivers down for sick as a
[54:45] reason he wasn't getting picked up
right now he's trying to get some that's
[54:49] what come up i mean
we've had a job posting they're not
[54:52] going to run with cdl for 10 something
and there's the problem he is short
[54:56] drivers so i mean we've got to pick up
what we can
[54:59] so i mean well and i understand the
respect that there was a problem in the
[55:03] short run there when somebody was sick
but again i'm
[55:06] not trying to have a you know knock down
drag out over it it's not worth it for
[55:11] that
i don't want to be that at all but this
[55:13] is not the first time we've had this
problem and it's just a matter of
[55:17] if we're going to run it we have to be
able to run in a consistent way
[55:20] uh and have it kept clean uh
in work uh it just has to be it has to
[55:25] work okay that's the agreement
can i make a quick suggestion gary maybe
[55:30] maybe for future reference
uh maybe somebody has a better idea
[55:33] maybe if we see we're going to have
drivers down
[55:35] maybe we can contact mr hilbert open up
the communication line to
[55:39] uh possibly just having to close it off
until we so it's not laying on the
[55:43] ground blowing around
yeah all right i appreciate that mr
[55:47] chairman that's one where
if there's going to be a shorter
[55:50] something's coming along if we can catch
it in anticipation of it
[55:53] getting to the point where it can't be
picked up we will be happy to
[55:57] to work with you but um it was a no-win
situation
[56:01] again i i didn't it wasn't personally
too offend but
[56:05] you know i stand by my statement yeah i
think we just need to have a
[56:09] if i need to attend one of the landfill
meetings maybe all of us just get
[56:12] together and work this out and get on
some kind of plan like i said if we're
[56:15] going to have people shorthanded
to to just contact mr hilbert and just
[56:19] go ahead and just shut it down for a day
or two so it's not
[56:22] piling up but we definitely need to get
something an understanding between both
[56:26] sides
especially with the you know i read
[56:28] there was hardwood thrown in one of the
dumpsters and that's
[56:31] that's a that's going to be a pain with
our new baler so we got to get that
[56:34] taken care of
okay mr hill i see mr hill i'm going to
[56:38] ask something mr i think
commissioner hill from the second
[56:41] district would like to speak yes sir
thank you
[56:44] chairman i also saw that article and
there was something glaringly missing
[56:49] and that was anything in the sandwich
for the customer
[56:53] there is no indication of customer
service and this thing
[56:56] um in the case of of these convenience
centers and
[57:00] and landfill ops in general your
customers are the taxpayers
[57:04] they pay for this service in advance and
not being able to utilize these services
[57:10] that they have paid for in good faith in
advance
[57:13] causes them to have to take it somewhere
else uh there's an illegal dump site
[57:17] that is being proposed to be cleaned up
right now i think that's probably where
[57:20] part of that goes but
you know clearly missing on both sides
[57:24] of the coin city and county
was a woeful omission
[57:30] of any kind of consideration for the
customer
[57:33] please do better in in client relations
you guys can talk you guys can certainly
[57:38] figure this out
um this shouldn't really even be a topic
[57:42] at this meeting right now
thank you chairman thank you ross mr
[57:46] garland i'll see you guys
that's the key to his communication i
[57:50] know uh mr s just mentioned that
because i've heard both sides also from
[57:54] the city side
from county side i think the people
[57:58] dumping stuff feel
down there illegally trash 1200 pounds
[58:02] of hardwood floor nobody can deal with
that
[58:04] i've also heard that the cameras aren't
working that that on those facilities
[58:09] so i think just talking it out and and
trying to get on the same page and
[58:13] working out the kinks of this thing
because it's a pretty successful
[58:16] operation if we can keep it going and we
need to
[58:19] uh especially with the new baylor coming
on in the next month or so
[58:22] so that's something we gotta work out
and iron out for uh for all of us for
[58:26] the good of this county and city
thank you thank you the second part of
[58:31] this
basically i'm glad mr estes is on there
[58:33] is communication
um two months ago we had a special call
[58:39] meeting with landfill
so basically 19-5 was the vote
[58:44] to send it to you all to the city to see
what their thoughts are on a 501
[58:49] 3c has there been any discussion on that
because what we're hearing in paper
[58:57] and around is they don't care or just
kind of just it's dead so
[59:03] you know the communication i think the
commission made it pretty clear what
[59:07] they want to go with and we're just
trying to figure out
[59:10] now we're at 12 months before this is
going to come back up and
[59:14] any discussion at all
well i appreciate it again to to speak
[59:20] off the cuff
uh that's i'm always willing to do so
[59:24] uh but
[59:27] let me say this i think a couple of
things are in order one would be
[59:32] my personal opinion i think a little
cooling off period was was of use
[59:36] because uh emotions were running high
and folks were really
[59:41] uh keyed up on the whole matter uh and
there's there's nothing to be gained by
[59:47] being hasty one way or the other because
we need to figure out what's going on
[59:51] uh i suspect what you will hear uh if
you speak to the city council members
[59:57] is that they're willing to entertain a
501c3 as a
[1:00:00] form of uh incorporation or governments
whatever it's going to be for the animal
[1:00:06] shelter
however that's that's a concept that's
[1:00:09] not a plan
i think that before you can sign on to
[1:00:14] something it's going to have to be more
fully fleshed out so i think what you've
[1:00:16] seen is
[1:00:20] an opportunity to find out where the
process is going to play out if the
[1:00:23] animal shelter board is going to
[1:00:27] facilitate some of that how that's going
to play out as far as getting the
[1:00:30] particulars lined up
uh it's not at the stage where it's an
[1:00:35] action item again i
just again i can't speak for seven
[1:00:39] people because i
you know maybe part of my job is to read
[1:00:42] the collective minds of certain people
on a daily basis
[1:00:44] but which is not entirely possible uh
but i don't think it's in a again to say
[1:00:52] yes 501c3 no matter what or absolutely
no we're never going to do that it makes
[1:00:57] no sense i think it's an open mind
uh but i don't know how much fruit is to
[1:01:04] be born by voting on a concept
alone i would instead say i think it's
[1:01:08] it's useful to let a process play out if
that's going to be by way of the shelter
[1:01:11] board which
i think that they're trying to find
[1:01:14] their way on that if you were in
attendance at the last shelter meeting
[1:01:17] uh they're trying to uh figure that out
uh and i'm
[1:01:22] and you know and by the way you know
three out of the seven members of the
[1:01:26] council are on that board
so uh that gives them some uh
[1:01:32] some place to to participate uh i think
the the comment maybe that you were
[1:01:36] referring to
commissioner bailey about uh
[1:01:41] how it got started was maybe one of
perception and communication
[1:01:46] yeah and it was uh in that
it might have been more advisable if we
[1:01:52] were going to have this discussion
uh city and county government together
[1:01:56] to have more fully fleshed it out
and i appreciate that it's the
[1:02:00] commission's prerogative to express its
opinion however it wishes
[1:02:04] but to put the shoe on the other foot it
looks like it
[1:02:07] you know this was the commission's vote
fair or unfair
[1:02:11] to actually say well this is what we
want done you know this is where we're
[1:02:14] going period
it's either you know whatever it is
[1:02:18] leave follower get out of the way
and that's not exactly how uh the uh
[1:02:25] a partnership if you work with somebody
and try to communicate with them to come
[1:02:29] to an answer
don't jump out in front of the other one
[1:02:32] talk with them and try to work it out
because again i think the council is
[1:02:35] open to the discussion
they just don't want to be run over okay
[1:02:40] i think
it's all right mr buddy i think i'm
[1:02:42] gonna go ahead and stop this
conversation
[1:02:45] we're done i just want to say that i did
listen to the to the animal shelter
[1:02:49] board meet another night and i think
i think it may get brought up later on
[1:02:52] in committee report maybe if not i'll
bring it up but they did
[1:02:55] uh bring up the fact that they want
c-pass and impasse to work together
[1:03:00] to basically dig into this and i think
it's something we definitely need to
[1:03:04] consider on our part
to support that uh when that comes
[1:03:08] before us i think there'll be a letter
come to myself and maybe mayor would be
[1:03:13] chairman hill uh i will report on that
at the
[1:03:16] appropriate juncture okay thank you dr
akov so with that being said let's take
[1:03:20] about a 10 minute break let's come back
at 7 15
[1:03:24] and we'll get started with committee
[1:03:28] reports
[1:14:40] okay
[1:14:58] my watch it's 7 15. we'll go ahead and
jump back in here
[1:15:02] and let hopefully everybody in the
courthouse start rolling back in
[1:15:05] but chairman james has texted me and
said he's going to jump on here and give
[1:15:08] the budget report um
so whenever he wants to start we'll go
[1:15:12] ahead and let chairman jane start
[1:15:18] ross do you have your hand up i did not
but um i thought i was actually
[1:15:23] presenting this but if he wants to he's
more than welcome well he told me
[1:15:26] earlier
you probably would but he just text me
[1:15:28] saying he's going to jump onto budget
and he's going to jump back off
[1:15:30] i don't know what's okay he might be a
little bit busy for some reason tonight
[1:15:38] all right is everybody on
[1:15:41] we're here buddy all right everybody
turn to the
[1:15:45] budget and let's move forward
[1:15:49] all right first i'll put into a form of
a motion to approve addendum number two
[1:15:53] to the inmate
medical contract with southern health
[1:15:57] partners
the renewal for the 2021 physical year
[1:16:00] has a three percent adjustment and an
increase of
[1:16:04] 1468.
to the monthly base rate making the new
[1:16:09] base
annual cost of this six hundred and five
[1:16:13] thousand one hundred and seventeen
dollars and eighty eight cents
[1:16:18] okay i have a motion by mr james
second take it by mr garland any
[1:16:24] discussion
[1:16:28] hearing none madam clerk call the roll
[1:16:32] please
[1:16:36] oh
[1:16:42] aaron can you turn your speaker on
check checky mark blevins
[1:16:52] [Music]
[1:16:55] robert aka yes nancy brown
yes mike hill
[1:17:04] julie gwen yes bradley johnson
yes mark kester
[1:17:12] yes charles von kansas
isaiah grandstay
[1:17:21] yes austin james
[1:17:26] isaiah grant's dad yes
mike hill
[1:17:35] ross garland yes lana ward
yes ginger holdren yes
[1:17:42] randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill
[1:17:49] yes sandra culler test
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
[1:17:56] um restate the motion please
[1:18:00] sorry i was late sorry okay thank you
aaron
[1:18:03] sorry put into a form of emotion
mary hello mary it's commissioner hill
[1:18:12] district 2.
my vote was yes thank you
[1:18:16] i'm sorry it doesn't seem to work ernest
the renewal of the southern health
[1:18:20] partners for the sheriff's department
yeah approved yeah yeah i agreed
[1:18:26] changed mine robin mckamey yes
kelly collins yes
[1:18:32] thomas prophet yes okay
change my back yes okay
[1:18:41] all right all eyes motion pass thank you
[1:18:47] all right next i put into form of a
motion to appropriate
[1:18:50] 59 dollars and eight cents from the
courthouse security reserve account for
[1:18:57] construction costs related to installing
an additional new entry exit door and
[1:19:01] flooring for the clerk master's office
[1:19:11] we gotta have a second before we hit
discussion
[1:19:15] we have a second second by mr garland
now discussion mr bailey
[1:19:20] exactly where is this door going
[1:19:25] close at the clerk and master's office
[1:19:29] yeah they've got a window that's coming
out right now the chancellor
[1:19:33] has to walk around the building to get
in and it for security reasons
[1:19:37] that he's supposed to not really be
going in with the same with the public
[1:19:42] and they don't have an exit door in
their office in case of emergencies for
[1:19:46] the staff
gary i feel like we've been discussing
[1:19:48] this since we took office it's been on
there for a while
[1:19:53] all right we're good yes
mr phil yes sir mr tester i do have a
[1:20:00] question
[1:20:03] in um and grounds this was brought up
and it was
[1:20:07] stated in our package the tune of 57 000
when the budget approved it it was 59
[1:20:15] 863 which is
roughly rounding off 3 000
[1:20:22] increase and i was just wondering
and i forgive me if i don't know what
[1:20:26] this is but you know 57
60 000 seems a lot for just cutting the
[1:20:31] door
but uh and i'm sure there's more to that
[1:20:35] but i just
i'm been not being privy to what other
[1:20:38] stuff's being done here so
if someone could fill me in i would
[1:20:42] appreciate it all right mr tester i'm
not sure of all of tomorrow i have to
[1:20:46] update you but with this quote is is
putting the door in so
[1:20:49] and it's going in the historic part so
we've got to comply with whatever the
[1:20:52] historic committee has said um i believe
it's getting owning over it
[1:20:57] we're going to have to build some sort
of platform for them to exit because the
[1:21:00] elevation difference
and then on top of that they're also
[1:21:03] replacing all the flooring in this quote
in the clerk and master's office too
[1:21:10] so it's not just a door on the on the
quote they sent out to the budget
[1:21:14] committee it's got fifty six thousand
nine hundred dollars for the
[1:21:17] construction costs and that includes
replacement of florida clerk and masters
[1:21:21] office suite includes
unforeseen conditions allowance of
[1:21:24] twenty five hundred dollars includes
hardware for new door allowance fifteen
[1:21:27] hundred dollars
and then you've got ancillary costs
[1:21:30] which are architectural fees fire
marshal review historic zoning review
[1:21:34] and miscellaneous that's where the 59
000 come in
[1:21:38] we've had across a lot of hurdles to get
that approved
[1:21:42] um through the fire marshal and the
historical zoning community we had to go
[1:21:45] in front of all those
entities to get this approved it's not
[1:21:49] just a door
it'll be a platform with steps going up
[1:21:51] to the door there'll be an awning over
top of that the awning also has to match
[1:21:56] the other awnings that are on the wheel
and like the commissioner jane said
[1:22:01] there's currently carpet in there and
they're going to have to pull up a
[1:22:04] portion of that carpet to do this
project so it was decided to go ahead
[1:22:07] and pull up all that nasty carpet that's
in there
[1:22:10] and replace it with the flooring that's
currently in all the offices in the
[1:22:13] courthouse at the top
[1:22:16] chairman hill if i may yes sir yes ma'am
um it was falsely reported in budget
[1:22:24] committee that this passed out of
building and grounds
[1:22:27] this did not pass out of building and
grounds building and grounds
[1:22:31] wanted a breakdown of the cost
a motion was made and passed unanimously
[1:22:37] that we would ask mayor would be to ask
sean shanks to provide uh cost analysis
[1:22:44] on this
to show us exactly where the dollars
[1:22:48] were going
uh so we deferred it until next month so
[1:22:52] it was very
uh surprising and uh somewhat
[1:22:55] disrespectful to me to find that it
appeared in the budget meeting a week
[1:22:59] later
uh out of respect for the building and
[1:23:01] grounds committee
i would ask that this commission vote no
[1:23:05] on this issue tonight
uh from my understanding commissioner
[1:23:10] holder under building and grounds had
already approved this contract
[1:23:13] with champ with the door previous months
ago
[1:23:16] and it came back around again due to the
there was some change
[1:23:20] this was the final contract but the act
the amusement park had already been
[1:23:23] approved
um her county attorney josh harding had
[1:23:27] already approved that contract and i
just brought it back through building
[1:23:30] grounds again to
update the committee on the status of
[1:23:33] the of the project
well um mayor would be this is a lot of
[1:23:39] money
and um i i take it very seriously when
[1:23:43] we spend
any money i wouldn't even uh you know
[1:23:48] i responded to uh commissioner hill that
i didn't even want to
[1:23:52] uh change the status of this meeting
this evening because i didn't want to
[1:23:56] pay that
new advertisement i take every dollar
[1:23:59] that we spend
very very seriously this is enough money
[1:24:03] to almost cost our taxpayers a whole
penny on their property taxes this year
[1:24:08] i don't think as long as it's already
taken i agree with uh
[1:24:13] hill and and some of them that have
spoken up and said that this has been on
[1:24:17] uh our discussions our agendas for a
long long time now
[1:24:22] but if it's been that long why can we
not wait one more month
[1:24:26] to see how this money is being spent
[1:24:32] terminator brett johnson yes sir mr
johnson
[1:24:35] uh i i agree with
uh chairwoman holder about this this was
[1:24:42] deferred in it and the
largest reason was that
[1:24:47] the bid was modified as it's already
been stated
[1:24:51] that there were other items that was
either added to
[1:24:54] because of the type of constructions
going on
[1:24:57] but if you look at the bid and since it
is modified it's only a
[1:25:01] single line identification on where to
be performed
[1:25:06] now we're paying for an ae service and
part of their service
[1:25:10] is to review the bid and to verify
that the amount that this bid is within
[1:25:17] comparable
range of what's called the construction
[1:25:20] issue
because all you got like i said a single
[1:25:22] line and fifty six thousand dollars and
doesn't tell you anything
[1:25:27] and they're also to verify that the work
to be performed within the scope of work
[1:25:31] that was placed out for business
uh and i support uh
[1:25:37] our chairman holden as it should be go
back to committee
[1:25:42] for the bill on the ground to approve
that and for the ae
[1:25:46] to give their opinion on the value of
the thing
[1:25:50] chairman james would it be outlined for
me to ask you to remove your
[1:25:53] your motion and mr garden with a second
defer this until next month
[1:25:57] until we get a breakdown i'm perfectly
fine
[1:26:00] i'm not deferring it next month they can
go to building the grounds and they can
[1:26:03] send it back when they get
get it cleared up in their committee so
[1:26:06] we've talked on this long enough we've
got plenty to cover here so
[1:26:10] um send it back miss would be if you
would reach out to the chancellor and
[1:26:13] see if you couldn't get him to log on
next month
[1:26:16] to building a grounds committee and uh
reinforce why he feels
[1:26:20] that it's necessary maybe him or mr will
report both
[1:26:24] and um why it's necessary that they need
a sixty thousand dollar door and
[1:26:29] and uh see if that can help a little bit
with it too so
[1:26:38] it's just a matter of the bid document
being certified
[1:26:42] and verified by our ae uh
it does it is a requirement in ways
[1:26:49] because it does violate the nfpa the
fire codes for the builders
[1:26:53] that space does not have but one exit
for the employees or any of the
[1:26:58] customers or citizens that's in that
space
[1:27:01] if an incident takes place so that
brings a defend qualification
[1:27:06] the question is is the cost now we've
already stated that the weather is going
[1:27:11] to be taken out so
basically to go in into mine through the
[1:27:16] walls
all you got is the lower portion the
[1:27:18] reinforcement
of the top is already there so that
[1:27:22] takes out the seriousness of the
construction side of the house
[1:27:26] so that's why my question needed that's
awful
[1:27:29] mayor before we decide to defer this
do you have you do you have the quote
[1:27:34] where you can look at it is any of this
price guaranteed for a certain period of
[1:27:38] time or
or what because that's one thing that we
[1:27:41] do need to look at right now because
material they they won't my material
[1:27:45] quotes they won't guarantee but a week
at the moment
[1:27:48] it's 60 days i think okay
yeah well even if it is it can be rebid
[1:27:54] we're not held with that that's part of
the statement i'm going out for bid
[1:27:58] yeah well what i'm saying is the
material is fluctuating so much it's
[1:28:01] going up so quick that
i don't know how good the quote was good
[1:28:04] for so we're not um
you know we're sitting here talking
[1:28:08] about 59 000 but next month it may be 67
000 is what i was getting at and just to
[1:28:14] let the committee know or the commission
know that is what shawn shanks says
[1:28:19] the problem is of the cost is materials
right now are so expensive
[1:28:24] um the highest the high quote that we
had to be come in was 86 000
[1:28:31] that was on the high end of the quotes
the bids that came in
[1:28:36] just to clarify a couple more things uh
chairman hill if you don't mind
[1:28:40] yes miss hold on go ahead um so
i reached out to tom shanks
[1:28:46] this evening around 5 p.m um
you know i love that group every time
[1:28:51] i've had to talk to tim or tom
as mayor woodbe has stated before they
[1:28:55] are
very nice very helpful very kind at all
[1:28:59] times
um the number is 56
[1:29:04] 9 for labor and materials
5808 so that's 5 808
[1:29:12] goes on top of 56 9
bringing the total project to 62 708
[1:29:19] dollars
when i ask during building and grounds
[1:29:23] if the 569
included architectural fees and
[1:29:26] managerial fees of the project
i was told yes it does but when i talked
[1:29:31] to tom shanks today he said no ma'am
5808 goes on top of that for
[1:29:38] their project management and for their
architectural drawings and whatnot
[1:29:43] so the project actually is more than the
number we're given tonight
[1:29:48] tom shanks could not tell me where the
59 000 number came from
[1:29:52] uh so i think if we're going to vote on
any numbers
[1:29:55] in the future it's got to be 569 or 62
708. uh commissioner holder yes
[1:30:02] i was looking at the quote on my phone
and for some reason it's got owner's
[1:30:05] contingency of five percent marked out
and that that brought it down to the 59
[1:30:10] 860 308 which was 28.45
yeah that was correct they told me to
[1:30:15] take that out after they sent that to me
well he told me today that it it needs
[1:30:21] to stay in there until the project is
complete and if we don't spend it that's
[1:30:25] when it comes out
okay chairman hill
[1:30:29] yes mr james if i'm uh we've we've done
beat this road so it's going back to
[1:30:35] building the grounds
so let's move forward with this they can
[1:30:38] figure out numbers and bring it back to
us whatever it is
[1:30:41] next month all right thank you all right
next go ahead
[1:30:49] i just wanted to add that it is it as
far as it's
[1:30:52] compliant with uh the new courthouse
security with
[1:30:56] fitting it with the kind of keyed entry
and all that stuff too right and ada
[1:31:00] and everything yes we talking right
all right next up we'll put into a form
[1:31:06] of a motion to appropriate
35 000 from the general unassigned fund
[1:31:10] balance for salary of benefits for the
future carter county finance director
[1:31:16] motion by mr james second thing about mr
frazier discussion
[1:31:25] why was vacation added into that number
for such a short period of time
[1:31:31] i believe uh we've got mr burke out of
his vacation time and so that's
[1:31:36] we went ahead there's not currently
enough in his line item
[1:31:40] to purchase his vacation time out
so we had to add enough to go ahead and
[1:31:45] be able to purchase his vacation time
[1:31:50] okay so just for clarification 30 000
is set aside for the training of a new
[1:31:56] finance director once
they come on board and about 5 000
[1:32:01] is for burke's vacation time that we
need to purchase
[1:32:04] correct okay
[1:32:08] actually that vacation will be closer to
10.
[1:32:12] oh well stand corrected
well i would hope that you know
[1:32:19] by the time that we hire a finance
director we're not going to need to
[1:32:22] spend 30 000 anyway i wouldn't think
no and that's why we're kind of doing uh
[1:32:27] we put a number out there that we kind
of factored we hoped was really close
[1:32:31] and it's just going to be set there and
so you know it's
[1:32:34] i mean when you we hire somebody of
course we'll set their salary
[1:32:38] and then they may be extra money left in
there and we're getting ready to come
[1:32:41] up in in the budget so we'll yank it
back out if there's anything
[1:32:45] left but we just you know we're on a
tight time frame so we don't want to run
[1:32:49] up or short on the money and not have
the money to hire somebody
[1:32:53] um but yeah and that brad had told us
that we'd also need to give put some
[1:32:57] money there to be able to buy his
vacation time so
[1:32:59] that's where we come up with the 35 from
[1:33:07] okay chairman hill i'm i'm a little
confused
[1:33:11] how much is the vacation time
roughly ten thousand dollars is what
[1:33:17] director mark's saying
so you're going to count
[1:33:22] what was it 20 000 then for the
25
[1:33:30] okay thank you yes ma'am
[1:33:35] any further discussion
[1:33:40] green none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell
[1:33:43] yes mark blevins yeah robert aiken
yes nancy brown yes
[1:33:51] mike hill no
julie gwen yes
[1:33:58] bradley johnson yeah
mark kester yes charles von cannon
[1:34:05] yes isaiah grandstaff
yes jerry prophet yes
[1:34:12] austin james yes
[1:34:16] ross garland yes layla ward
yes ginger holdren yes
[1:34:24] randall jenkins no
[1:34:29] gary bailey i'll pass right now
[1:34:35] travis hill yes
sandra culler yes
[1:34:42] daniel mcinturf oh
frazier yes robin mckamey
[1:34:50] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes does anyone want to
[1:34:58] change your vote
[1:35:04] i'll vote yes it was
gary gary bailey
[1:35:15] 21 eyes motion pass thank you
and uh chairman i just like to add on
[1:35:21] top that in the next coming days
financial management is going to be
[1:35:25] seeking for that position
and you know i know there's uh
[1:35:29] not as many of us on that committee but
there is 24 commissioners that has to
[1:35:33] work with this person so
i greatly appreciate and i'm sure
[1:35:36] commissioner holdren would
uh all of us sits on that committee
[1:35:40] everybody's input and and
thoughts on this when we hire somebody
[1:35:44] um you know everybody's gotta
talk to this person so we want somebody
[1:35:48] that can work with all also
[1:35:52] commissioner hill yes mr tester
i would make a suggestion that
[1:35:59] whoever writes the specifications up for
this job and all like that
[1:36:04] that they have a minimum requirement
of so many years service in government
[1:36:11] business and stuff like that that might
keep you from getting
[1:36:14] 400 resumes mr tesla i believe
commissioner holdren can address this i
[1:36:20] think we're using the same one we used
last year
[1:36:23] and i don't know no we are not
okay sorry director burke and i worked
[1:36:29] worked on this for about a week we could
have advertised the position
[1:36:33] sooner but he and i wanted to get the
advertisement correct
[1:36:38] so he and i went back and forth for
several days and we came up with an
[1:36:42] advertisement that is
more restrictive than what we had used
[1:36:46] last year
because last year we got a lot of
[1:36:50] applicants that had managed
uh five people at wendy's that wanted to
[1:36:54] be our finance director
uh and i'm making that up but that's
[1:36:58] very similar to some of the applications
that we saw
[1:37:01] um so this time we did put in there
so many years of government service so
[1:37:07] many
millions of dollars in management
[1:37:11] i think we used 100 for the number of
employees that they've had to oversee
[1:37:17] and that means county-wide not within
the department of course
[1:37:21] but that you know and director burke if
you want to chime in here but we did try
[1:37:26] really hard
to to get a more qualified top
[1:37:29] individual
[1:37:33] mr chair mr director
i would just like to add a couple things
[1:37:38] uh
i believe it's absolutely essential to
[1:37:41] have somebody with governmental
finance experience it's a different
[1:37:46] world than a
private business uh
[1:37:53] be hard to learn the governmental
as well as doing the taking care of the
[1:37:59] responsibilities that come along with
the
[1:38:01] position
[1:38:05] absolutely
[1:38:11] all right let's move forward uh
commissioner hill i'm
[1:38:14] chairman hill can we or get a copy of
that
[1:38:18] um commissioner holden can a copy be
sent that out to everyone about
[1:38:23] what qualifications of course yes ma'am
thank you and now we do have a special
[1:38:28] called meeting on this on the 22nd
um at six o'clock i don't know i haven't
[1:38:33] looked miss holden is it zoom or is it
um in person it's in person sir in
[1:38:39] person at six o'clock
i guess in the main courtroom correct
[1:38:42] it'll be in whichever room
uh miss abby and miss would be tell us
[1:38:47] is vacant and available
it'll be somewhere on the second floor
[1:38:50] of the courthouse
yep so i you know anybody wants to show
[1:38:54] it please come
i understand that we're advertised for
[1:38:58] the mayor's conference room and that's
not a very big space at this time
[1:39:05] um we will not be going over any
applications
[1:39:09] on that evening because applications can
be received through april the 30th
[1:39:14] um so i understand that people will be
interested but
[1:39:18] that kind of um meeting is going to be
in may not
[1:39:22] april so miss culler i'll definitely
take that into consideration when we
[1:39:26] schedule that meeting
thank you
[1:39:31] all right if everybody's good we're
going to move forward here um
[1:39:34] next i'll put into a form of a motion to
approve a policy establishing
[1:39:38] establishing a deadline
for all carter county departments to
[1:39:42] spend any budget committee
related requests and documents to the
[1:39:46] carter county finance department
the first monday of each month seven
[1:39:50] calendar days prior to the regular
scheduled budget meetings
[1:39:53] with an exception for issues that the
finance department classifies as an
[1:39:56] emergency
[1:39:59] second promotion by mr james second with
mr fraser any discussion
[1:40:08] hearing none madam clerk call the roll
please willie campbell yes
[1:40:11] mark robbins yeah robert aco yes
nicky brown yes mike hill
[1:40:19] yes julie gwen yes
bradley johnson yeah mark tester
[1:40:26] yes ross von cannon yes isaiah branstad
yes very prophet yes austin james
[1:40:34] yes ross garland yes
laila ward yes ginger holdren
[1:40:41] yes randall johnson
yes jerry bailey yes travis hill
[1:40:48] yes sandra culler yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron fraser
[1:40:56] yes robin mckamey yes
ellie collins yes thomas prompted
[1:41:04] yes all eyes motion pass thank you
[1:41:13] all right next i put into a form of a
motion to appropriate thirty thousand
[1:41:17] dollars from the cares act funding
to give additional funds to the carter
[1:41:20] county rescue squad to cover the cost of
additional expenses due to cover 19.
[1:41:25] second motion mark first motion by mr
jane sega by mr blevins
[1:41:30] any discussion
[1:41:36] seeing no hands raised madam park call
roll please
[1:41:39] willie campbell
[1:41:43] sorry mark blevins yes
robert a kev abstain for calls i'm on
[1:41:49] the board
nancy brown yes mike mike hill
[1:41:55] yes julie gwen yes
bradley johnson yeah
[1:42:03] sorry mark caster yes charles von cannon
yes isaiah grandstay yes
[1:42:11] jerry prophet yes austin james
yes
[1:42:18] i'm sorry ross garland yes laila ward
yes ginger holdren yes
[1:42:25] randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yeah travis hill yes sandra culler
[1:42:34] yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
[1:42:41] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes all right
[1:42:47] motion pass thank you all right
next i'll put in the form of a motion to
[1:42:52] appropriate fifteen thousand dollars to
the second harvest food bank
[1:42:56] for the backpack program funding to come
from the general fund
[1:42:59] unassigned fund balance and the amount
of 10 000 and reallocation of
[1:43:04] contribution to the carter county honor
guard
[1:43:06] at 5 000.
second motion by mr james second by mr
[1:43:12] bailey any discussion
yes uh mr chairman hill
[1:43:18] yes sir mr von cannon i spoke to
[1:43:23] the three gentlemen that are now
representing the honor guard from carter
[1:43:26] county but they had to join the honor
guard from washington county
[1:43:31] but they serve here
something has happened in that whole
[1:43:36] organization and before we fund anybody
i think
[1:43:39] we need to get the county attorney to
try to sort out
[1:43:42] what's going on the van that
was used to haul the people is no longer
[1:43:49] available
there's uh there's just numerous things
[1:43:53] about that situation that
that uh it doesn't
[1:43:59] that would leave us holding the bag with
something
[1:44:03] i i want to know before i would vote for
what's going on because
[1:44:10] uh they just it's not something is wrong
with that situation
[1:44:14] mr von cannon and
and it involves the van it involves the
[1:44:20] weapons
uh who else has been involved in this mr
[1:44:25] von cannon
who else knows about the uh the
[1:44:30] ascension within the group
charlie when mr james
[1:44:36] we're we are actually we're we're
pulling the money from the honor guard
[1:44:40] because they have dissolved or something
of that nature they've never picked
[1:44:43] their money up
so since we're already getting ready to
[1:44:47] flip to the budget time we're taking and
moving it to the second harvest food
[1:44:51] bank because we've never funded them and
she come in
[1:44:54] and requested and said they deliver over
two million pounds of food in carter
[1:44:58] county every year i believe that was
correct
[1:45:00] and so we thought it was necessary that
we ought to try to back up and give them
[1:45:03] something for
last year to help with this am i
[1:45:07] permitted to make a motion that the
county attorney look into this because
[1:45:11] it is it's serious
from what i've seen and i didn't see
[1:45:16] enough of it to know for sure but i know
i know i saw enough to know
[1:45:21] that we used to have six or seven honor
guard people come to a funeral
[1:45:26] charles they're taking the money away
from them
[1:45:30] they're taking the money away from the
garden
[1:45:33] from the honor garden then that's the
city that's the problem
[1:45:39] we're taking the money away because
there is no honor guarding you you've
[1:45:42] still got
the people in carter county that are
[1:45:47] serving on the honor guard
marlo uh is one
[1:45:54] the sailor whatever he is
and kelly green seems to be out of it
[1:46:02] he's the guy that had to do it but they
uh
[1:46:06] they have to check their weapon they
have to go to johnson city to get the
[1:46:09] weapons
come back they don't have a van they did
[1:46:14] ask a mayor about the white van
that's sitting on the lot a lot of times
[1:46:22] if that would be available but
[1:46:28] mr hardin if you don't care could you
look into that and uh
[1:46:32] get with mr von cannon and figure out
what's going on here
[1:46:37] i know yes sir i will draw my second
travis let's just go
[1:46:44] i just know something's not right
because there's too many too much
[1:46:50] floating around out there some of it's
got to be true somebody's trying to
[1:46:54] breathe
oh okay so we don't have a second
[1:46:57] anymore does anybody want a second mr
james motion
[1:47:00] i'll say it think about mr frazier
[1:47:04] any discussion now is there any way i
mean we're taking that 15
[1:47:09] from the honor guard and basically given
to second harvest is that what we're
[1:47:13] trying to do
yes we're they they have apparently
[1:47:17] dissolved or something but for the last
two years they have not come in and
[1:47:20] picked their money up so since we're
getting ready to go to it no whole
[1:47:22] another budget cycle
this money is still sitting there so you
[1:47:26] know you were sitting there the other
night on the second harvest food bank
[1:47:28] come in and tell us how many millions of
pounds they provide to carter county so
[1:47:31] we're trying to back back up and make up
for some of those years that we didn't
[1:47:35] get them funded and we're going to fund
them moving forward
[1:47:38] hopefully i i understand that is there
any way we can just take
[1:47:42] 15 from unassigned and then just just
keep the 15 for honor guard just in case
[1:47:46] something comes out of that
in the book i mean i think we could i
[1:47:49] think we could just
give an appropriation when if they come
[1:47:53] and request some money i don't think
we'll ever deny the honor guard money
[1:47:56] i think we should just wait until a
formal group comes and requests some
[1:47:59] money
and one thing that one thing that people
[1:48:02] have to understand is the money that we
had approved to give to them is to an
[1:48:05] organization that no longer exists
negative it does exist well we were we
[1:48:11] were told that it had been this
american legion right but this is
[1:48:15] specifically for that honor guard well
i understand what you're saying but
[1:48:20] although the honor guard
has been abolished that doesn't mean
[1:48:24] that it won't be reorganized
but what you've said is they can get the
[1:48:29] money up on request
correct they can come back and they can
[1:48:32] do a bunch of requests
they have a reserve now i mean the money
[1:48:36] is on hand that doesn't mean that the
american legion has it in their account
[1:48:40] this is just doing
carter counties yeah this this is still
[1:48:43] money it's in carter county jerry
it had been appropriated but they never
[1:48:48] had come in and actually
normally got it and done the step what
[1:48:52] all it took else to get it so
it's been sitting there for the past two
[1:48:55] years so we're trying to move it around
to do something with it and if they come
[1:48:58] in and request some more
then we can appropriate something at
[1:49:01] that time for them
there's 5 000 veterans in this county
[1:49:06] you've got to take care of somebody
as you know they serve their time
[1:49:13] and they deserve they deserve a military
funeral if that's what they desire
[1:49:21] mr chair they're still yes mr burns
because these people are from florida
[1:49:30] county that i went to
uh the
[1:49:34] funeral of al king
and they were there four of them
[1:49:42] generally there's six or eight
[1:49:46] and one of them was a graduating on
military leave
[1:49:50] and they recruited him a marine
but that was shy of what they normally
[1:49:58] would be
given as a military funeral
[1:50:03] burke you're recognized okay thank you
uh just a little clear
[1:50:07] clarification on this uh i have
a couple of men have come in i've talked
[1:50:12] to them a couple of times and they're in
the process
[1:50:15] my most recent understanding way of
forming a group
[1:50:20] to uh take over this this very honorable
duty that's provided to the to the
[1:50:25] veterans
um and like somebody said before i
[1:50:29] believe or
may not have anyway there was ten
[1:50:31] thousand appropriated in
nineteen twenty and five thousand twenty
[1:50:36] twenty one
the county has not paid out anything
[1:50:40] to the honor guard the carter county
honor guard they never
[1:50:43] requested anything uh and as this motion
states
[1:50:48] the 5 000 will be coming from this
year's budget 2021
[1:50:52] and since the 10 000 from 1920 rolled
into fund balance
[1:50:56] that's where the 0.10 is coming from
[1:51:00] the problem seems to be between the bmw
the american legion and
[1:51:09] the three or four that are serving uh
without any
[1:51:13] any any authority with any authority
they're serving because the need is
[1:51:19] there
[1:51:21] chairman i think you have time i agree
let's let's go for let's call for the
[1:51:26] boat
adam clark call the roll please
[1:51:31] the motion is uh to appropriate fifteen
thousand dollars the second harvest food
[1:51:36] bank
for the backpack program funding funding
[1:51:40] is to come from the general unassigned
fund balance in the amount of ten
[1:51:43] thousand dollars and reallocate
of a contribution to the carter county
[1:51:46] honor guard of five thousand
[1:51:50] yes
[1:51:53] willie campbell yes mark blevins yes
robert a cup yes nancy brown
[1:52:01] yes mike hill
no i can't do that julie glenn
[1:52:08] yes brandon johnson
yeah mark kester yes
[1:52:15] charles von cannon the answer is no
until you can find out who to give it to
[1:52:20] isaiah grant staff yes
jerry prophet no
[1:52:26] austin james yes
ross garland yes lady ward
[1:52:34] yes ginger holdren
yes randall jenkins
[1:52:40] yes gary bailey yeah
travis hill yes sanja culler
[1:52:48] no daniel mcintyre
yes aaron frazier yes
[1:52:55] robin mckamey yes kelly collins
yes thomas prophet
[1:53:03] yes 20 eyes
question pass thank you next we'll put
[1:53:09] into
all right if everybody wants to move
[1:53:11] into their budget amendments we're into
there now
[1:53:14] well austin's pulling that up guys make
a statement to say that i don't think
[1:53:17] anybody on this commission is going to
deny the honor guard money if they come
[1:53:20] requested
no and the only thing to back up and
[1:53:23] give a little more insight i'm
getting picked up from brad the ten
[1:53:28] thousand dollars out of the
appropriation had done roll back into
[1:53:30] the general fund so they wouldn't
if i understand correctly from brad not
[1:53:33] able to request that anyway so it's five
thousand dollars is what we had moved
[1:53:37] and now it's getting ready to end this
you know when we
[1:53:41] wrap this budget up this year it would
roll back into the general fund so
[1:53:44] you know if they have a request for this
coming year i don't you know i'm i don't
[1:53:48] think anybody's going to deny that
[1:53:53] all right if everybody's ready we're
going to move into the amendments now
[1:53:58] all right first i put in the form of a
motion to approve general fund 101
[1:54:01] budget amendment number 10
uh for a total of 93
[1:54:07] seven dollars and three cents with
seventy six thousand and eighteen
[1:54:10] dollars and three cents coming from
reserve fund balance and zero coming
[1:54:14] from the unassigned fund balance
[1:54:19] motion by mr james
go a second second by mr garland
[1:54:26] any discussion
[1:54:30] hearing none madam clerk call the role
please willie campbell yes
[1:54:33] mark blavins yeah robert a cup
yes nancy brown yes
[1:54:40] i keel yes julie glenn
yes bradley johnson yeah
[1:54:47] mark tester josh von cannon yes
i said grind staff yes
[1:54:54] jerry prophet austin james
yes boss garland yes
[1:55:02] may the ward
ginger holden yes randall jenkins
[1:55:10] yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes sandra culler
[1:55:16] yes daniel mcintyre yes
ann fraser yes robin mckamey
[1:55:25] yes kelly collins yes
thomas yes
[1:55:32] motion pass thank you all right next i
put information
[1:55:36] form of a motion to approve solid waste
sanitation fund number 116 budget
[1:55:40] amendment number four
for a total of nine thousand dollars
[1:55:44] with nothing coming from unassigned fund
balance
[1:55:46] second question by mr jane's second by
mr bailey any discussion
[1:55:51] [Music]
hearing none madam quote call the roll
[1:55:54] please
willie campbell uh mark blevins oh
[1:56:00] robert a cuff yes nancy brown
yes mike hill yes
[1:56:07] julie glenn yes bradley johnson
yeah mark kester yes
[1:56:14] von cannon yes isaiah grandstand
yes jerry prophet here austin james
[1:56:22] yes i'm scarlet yes bailey award
ginger holden yes randall jenkins
[1:56:32] yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes sandra culler
[1:56:39] yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
[1:56:46] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes all eyes
[1:56:54] motion pass thank you all right next
i'll put into a form of a motion to
[1:56:58] approve the highway public's work fund
number 131 budget amendment number four
[1:57:03] for a total of 68 477.50
with nothing coming from phone balance
[1:57:12] motion by mr james tag about miss brown
any discussion
[1:57:16] anymore call the roll please
[1:57:20] willie campbell yes mark blevins yes
robert aka yes nancy brown
[1:57:28] yes mike hill yes
isaiah julie gwen yes
[1:57:35] brandon johnson yeah mark tester
yes crossbone cannon yes isaac ryan
[1:57:43] yes jay prophet yes austin james
yes ross garland yes bailey ward
[1:57:51] yes ginger hogan yes
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
[1:57:58] yeah travis hill yes
sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre
[1:58:05] yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes
[1:58:14] thomas prophet yes all eyes
motion pass thank you all right next i
[1:58:20] put into a form of a motion to approve
the general purpose school fund number
[1:58:24] 141
amendment 8 a for a total of 177
[1:58:32] 607.17 with nothing coming from fund
balance
[1:58:35] second aaron motioned by mr james second
by mr frazier any discussion
[1:58:42] ain't none madam clerk call the roll
please
[1:58:45] lily campbell yes mark blevins
yeah robert aka yes
[1:58:52] nancy brown yes ikeal
yes julie glenn yes
[1:58:59] bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes charles von cannon yes
[1:59:05] i see a grandstand yes jerry crawford
yes austin james yes
[1:59:12] ross garland yes
[1:59:18] yes randall jenkins yes
gary bailey yes travis hill
[1:59:25] yes roger color yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron fraser
[1:59:32] yes robin mccamey yes
[1:59:38] yes that's profit yes
motion pass thank you
[1:59:46] i put into a form of a motion to
appropriate general purpose school fund
[1:59:49] number 141 budget amendment number nine
for a total of five hundred thousand and
[1:59:54] fifteen dollars and ninety four cents
thirty six thousand four hundred and
[1:59:59] thirty seven dollars and fifty cents
coming from a reserve
[2:00:01] fund balance and twenty six thousand
four hundred and thirty seven dollars
[2:00:06] and fifty cents coming from unassigned
fund balance
[2:00:09] second motion by mr james take it by mr
bailey any discussion
[2:00:15] hearing none madame clark call the roll
please willie
[2:00:18] willie campbell yes mark blandon yeah
robert aka yes nancy brown
[2:00:25] yes mike hill
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
[2:00:32] yeah mark tester yes
trust montanan yes isaiah grandstaff
[2:00:39] yes austin james
yes ross garland
[2:00:50] ross carlin layla ward
yesterday ginger holden yes
[2:00:58] randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill yes
[2:01:05] sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre
yes ann fraser yes robin mckamey
[2:01:13] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes ross garland
[2:01:20] yes all eyes motion pass thank you
all right next i put into a form of a
[2:01:28] motion
to approve school federal projects fund
[2:01:32] number 142
amendment number nine for a total of six
[2:01:36] million
seven hundred and sixty seven thousand
[2:01:39] four hundred and forty two dollars and
fifty eight
[2:01:42] cents with nothing coming from
unassigned fund balance
[2:01:45] thank you aaron frazier promotion by mr
jane's second by mr frazier any
[2:01:50] discussion
[2:01:54] hearing none madam clerk call the role
please willie campbell
[2:01:59] robert yes nancy brown yes
mike hill yes julie glenn
[2:02:07] yes bradley johnson yeah
mark tester yes trust von cannon yes
[2:02:15] isaiah grandstaff yes
yes austin james yes
[2:02:24] yes
[Music]
[2:02:29] yes dan layla ward
yes kids are hungry yes
[2:02:36] rainbow tintins yes okay
yeah travis hill yes
[2:02:44] 100 color
[2:02:47] yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes
[2:02:56] false prophet yes all eyes
motion pass thank you all right next i
[2:03:01] put into a form of a motion to approve
head start fund number 145
[2:03:05] budget amendment number 4 for a total of
284
[2:03:09] 928 and 51 cents with nothing coming
from unassigned fund balance
[2:03:16] motion by mr james take about mr blevins
any discussion
[2:03:21] hearing none man call the role please
willie campbell yes mark ravens yes
[2:03:28] robert de cup yes nancy brown
yes ikeal yes
[2:03:35] julie gwen yes bradley johnson
yeah mark kester yes
[2:03:43] charles von cannon yes isaiah grindstaff
yes yes austin james
[2:03:50] yes ross garland yes
taylor board andrew holdren
[2:03:57] yes randall jenkins yes
jerry bailey yes travis hill
[2:04:04] yes john your color guest
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
[2:04:11] yes robert mckamey yes
kelly collins yes
[2:04:19] yes all eyes motion pass thank you all
right
[2:04:24] next i put into a form of a motion to uh
approve the following monetary donations
[2:04:29] to the animal shelter in the amount of
one thousand one hundred and seventy
[2:04:32] dollars
secondary motion by mr james second by
[2:04:36] mr frazier any discussion
hearing none madame clark call the roll
[2:04:40] please willie campbell yes
mark blevins yes robert a cat
[2:04:46] yes thank you brown yes michael
julie glenn yes
[2:04:54] bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes charles von cannon yes
[2:05:01] isaiah grindstaff yes great prophet
yes austin james
[2:05:08] ross garland yes layla ward
yes ginger holdren yes
[2:05:16] randall jenkins yes gary bailey
yes travis hill yes
[2:05:23] sandra culler yes daniel mcintyre
yes ann fraser yes robin mckamey
[2:05:32] yes yes
[2:05:37] yes promotion past thank you
all right next i put in form of a motion
[2:05:43] to approve
the non-monetary donations from walmart
[2:05:46] made to the animal
shelter for approximate value of 349.45
[2:05:55] i'll second it motion by mr james sega
by mr tester
[2:06:00] any discussion
here you know madame carter call the
[2:06:04] roll please willie campbell
yes mark blevins yes
[2:06:10] robert daycare yes nancy brown
yes mike hill yes
[2:06:17] julie gwen yes bradley johnson
yes mark tester
[2:06:27] mark kester yes charles von cannon yes
isaiah grandstaff yes jerry prophet
[2:06:35] yes austin james yes
ross garland yes bailey ward
[2:06:41] yes ginger holder yes
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
[2:06:49] yeah travis hill yes conjure color
yes danny mcintyre yes
[2:06:56] and frasier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes
[2:07:03] thomas prophet allies
promotion pass thank you all right
[2:07:10] that's all we have for budget um i'll
just let everybody know that we're
[2:07:13] having to flex some of the dates around
uh for the budget hearings and so when
[2:07:18] we get
uh i've sent a thing around for the
[2:07:21] budget committee to look at
i'm gonna give it a couple more days if
[2:07:25] i don't have any more responses and
everybody's fine with it i'm gonna send
[2:07:27] it around everybody review so
if you have any questions or something
[2:07:30] just let me know
thank you chairman james next we'll move
[2:07:34] on to the nominated committee with uh
chairman for asians
[2:07:38] all right ladies and gentlemen um got
several to go through tonight so i'll
[2:07:43] try to be as quick as we possibly can
um first up on the list would be
[2:07:49] a nomination for the county historian
miss lisa jermaine and i will put that
[2:07:56] into a form of motion that we approve
lisa jermaine as the new accounting
[2:07:58] historian second
mike hill district motion by mr frazier
[2:08:03] second by
commissioner hill any discussion
[2:08:08] excellent choice
[2:08:11] hearing none madam clark call the role
please
[2:08:15] willie campbell yes mark ravens
yes robert a cup yes
[2:08:21] nancy brown yes hill
yes julie glenn yes
[2:08:29] bradley johnson yeah mark kester
yes yes
[2:08:36] isaac run staff yes
jerry prophet yeah austin james yes
[2:08:42] ross garland yes laila ward
ginger holdren yes randall jenkins
[2:08:52] yes gary bailey yes
travis hill yes andrea culler
[2:08:59] yes daniel mcintyre yes
aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
[2:09:06] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes
[2:09:14] all guys all right thank you guys next
up on the list would be
[2:09:18] two reappointments and one new
appointment to the equalization board
[2:09:22] uh first up on the list would be
reappointment of richard todd smith to
[2:09:26] the
to the equalization board now put that
[2:09:28] in the form of a motion
second motion by mr frazier second my mr
[2:09:33] von cannon to reappoint todd smith to
the equalization board
[2:09:38] any discussion
[2:09:41] hearing none madam call the roll please
willie campbell yes mark blavins yeah
[2:09:50] robert ako yes nancy brown
yes mike hill yes
[2:09:57] julie glenn yes bradley johnson
yeah mark tester
[2:10:04] yes trust von cannon yes
isaiah grant staff yes
[2:10:11] yes austin james yes
ross garland yes
[2:10:18] laila board yes ginger holdren
yes randall jenkins
[2:10:25] yes aaron bailey yes
travis hill yes sandra culler
[2:10:32] yes daniel mcintyre yes
ann fraser yes robin mckamey
[2:10:40] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes
[2:10:51] thank you guys uh next up on the list
would be the
[2:10:55] reappointment of deborah sam's
[2:11:01] to the equalization board and i put that
into a form of a motion
[2:11:05] second motion by mr frazier think about
mr james for the reappointment of
[2:11:10] deborah samps with equalization board
any discussion
[2:11:14] hearing none might have worked call the
role please willie campbell
[2:11:17] yes mark blevins yeah robert daycare
yes nathan brown yes ikeal
[2:11:25] yes julie glenn yes
bradley johnson yeah mark tester
[2:11:32] yes charles von cannon yes
isaiah grandstaff yes jerry prophet
[2:11:39] yes austin james yes
ross garland yes
[2:11:48] ginger hildren yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes travis hill
[2:11:57] yes sandra culler yes
daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
[2:12:03] yes robin mckamey yes
kelly collins yes
[2:12:10] thomas prophet yes
[2:12:14] who seconded that uh austin james
[2:12:23] thank you guys next up on the list would
be the appointment a
[2:12:26] new appointment of blaine the canvas to
the equalization board and i put that
[2:12:29] into a form of emotion
[2:12:33] second a motion by mr fraser second by
mr james for the appointment of
[2:12:38] blame mcamis to the equalization board
any discussion hearing none madam part
[2:12:46] call the role please
willie campbell yes mark blevins
[2:12:52] no robert a kid
yes nancy brown yes
[2:12:59] mike hill yes julie gwen
yes bradley johnson yeah
[2:13:07] mark tester yes charles von cannon
yes isaiah grant staff yes
[2:13:14] very prophet nope austin james
yes ross garland yes
[2:13:22] later ward
[2:13:25] ginger holdren yes randall jenkins
yes mary bailey yes
[2:13:33] travis hill yes sandra culler
yes daniel mcintyre yes
[2:13:40] ann frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes
[2:13:48] thomas prophet yes 22 eyes
[2:13:55] next up on the agenda is the appointment
of the
[2:13:58] commissioner for the second district of
the planning commission
[2:14:02] uh nominee was kenneth shell and i put
that into a form of a motion
[2:14:06] oh i'm sorry that's incorrect that is
steve stevenson
[2:14:09] is the nominee thank you stevenson is
the nominee
[2:14:14] promotion by mr frazier second by miss
brown
[2:14:18] any discussion
[2:14:23] ain't none madam clerk call please if
you don't care start with the second
[2:14:26] district please
second yeah start with a second then go
[2:14:31] do the rest
okay nancy brown yes
[2:14:36] my kill yes julie quinn
yes
[2:14:43] yes mark blevins yeah
robert aka yes
[2:14:50] brad bradley johnson yeah mark taster
yes trust von cannon yes
[2:14:57] isaiah grandstay no
[2:15:02] jerry crockett yes austin james
ross garland yes layla ward
[2:15:13] ginger holden yes randall jenkins
yes gary bailey yes
[2:15:22] travis hill yes sonja color
yes daniel mcinturf
[2:15:28] yes aaron frazier yes
robin mckamey yes
[2:15:34] kelly collins yes thomas prophet
yes
[2:15:43] chairman hill uh before we go for the
third district of point
[2:15:47] e um i would like a uh
ruling by the county attorney we haven't
[2:15:53] called for any
nominations from the floor but i think
[2:15:56] there will be one for the third district
that vote was close coming out of
[2:16:00] nominations it was 5-3 all right
i certainly want to nominate jerry
[2:16:07] piermann
and have since that vote was so close to
[2:16:10] have the entire commission vote on that
position
[2:16:13] okay attorney harden do you want to
address that
[2:16:18] sure the nominating committee is is
giving their recommendation of course
[2:16:23] but there can be
nominations from the floor if there are
[2:16:26] any others interested to be nominated
josh since we know there's going to be
[2:16:30] one should it not become as a motion
from the nominating commission we just
[2:16:34] open it up for nominations right off the
top or how do we do that
[2:16:38] uh no i think the chairman of the
nominating committee
[2:16:42] can certainly give the recommendation of
the nominating committee and report that
[2:16:46] to the full commission here but uh after
that nomination
[2:16:50] a recommendation is made then then you
can open the floor for nominations
[2:16:53] okay mark how did you vote
am i okay to proceed mr hill i think
[2:16:59] she's still checking on the vote on
stevenson okay
[2:17:04] okay 22 eyes motion pass thank you
all right next up would be the planning
[2:17:10] commission
seat for the third district the uh
[2:17:15] nominating committee voted as mr akov
said
[2:17:18] five to three for robert burrow and that
is i put forth his name as a
[2:17:22] motion second mark tester
[2:17:30] we have robert burrow do we want to open
up the floor to nominations
[2:17:34] yes sir if there is others that would
like to nominate they're more than
[2:17:37] welcome to do so
uh chairman he'll i nominate jerry
[2:17:41] pearman
dr acuff has nominated jerry pearlman
[2:17:46] any further nominations make emotionally
ceased
[2:17:51] hey we have a motion to seize
[2:17:54] nominations
okay saying about mr blevins any
[2:17:59] discussion
madam clerk call the roll to cease
[2:18:08] nomination
billy campbell yes mark blevins
[2:18:15] yes robert a care yes
nancy brown yes mike hill
[2:18:22] yes julie glenn yes
bradley johnson yeah mark tester
[2:18:29] yes trump spun cannon yes
isaiah grindstaff yes jerry prophet
[2:18:36] yes austin james yes
ross garland yes layla ward
[2:18:43] yes ginger holden yes
randall jenkins yes gary bailey
[2:18:51] yes travis hill yes
andrew culler yes daniel mcintyre
[2:18:58] yes aaron frazier yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins yes
[2:19:06] thomas prophet yes all eyes
pass two seconds
[2:19:16] you did no mark did on the on the
russian so we have two
[2:19:20] two nominees for the third district that
being jerry pearman
[2:19:23] and robert burrow so as a clerk call
your name please state the name of the
[2:19:27] person you want to see
chairman yes chairman he or commissioner
[2:19:32] hill
yes sir i would just like to ask if mr
[2:19:36] daniel smith
is actually with us tonight online i
[2:19:40] am in the receipt of a an interestingly
worded letter from
[2:19:43] daniel smith and i reached out to my
friend daniel smith who
[2:19:47] coincidentally lives in this district
and he assured me that he wrote no such
[2:19:51] letter
um there were assurances in the letter
[2:19:55] that that said that
mr smith whoever the author was would be
[2:19:58] with us tonight
and i just wondered if if we could
[2:20:01] recognize that individual
third daniel smith are you online
[2:20:07] you are recognized if you are to speak
[2:20:18] hearing nobody commissioner hill i do
not think he is online
[2:20:22] chairman commissioner james
yes mr james um i think before we take
[2:20:28] the vote uh we
maybe should ask if either of the rep
[2:20:32] either one of the
people running for the physicians here
[2:20:35] would like to speak or if there's
anybody want to speak on their behalf
[2:20:39] okay is mr burrow or mr pearman either
one with us in attendance tonight
[2:20:48] hearing nobody is any commissioners or
anybody in the public would like to
[2:20:52] speak on their behalf
[2:20:56] chairman hill i'll speak on uh mr
pearman's behalf
[2:20:59] okay go ahead dr uh thank you sir um
even though uh and it's regrettable
[2:21:07] that we received a letter it's the first
letter i've ever received
[2:21:11] or seen in my almost seven years as a
commissioner
[2:21:15] that there weren't multiple signatures
to that
[2:21:18] objection for mr pearman to repeat
on the planning commission i find that
[2:21:24] very questionable and dubious
number of issues that have come to me
[2:21:30] where
constituents have filed letters
[2:21:34] many have signed it and put their
signatures to that to attest
[2:21:38] to the fact that they supported that
issue
[2:21:41] the letter that came before us or before
the nominating kit committee did
[2:21:46] not contain anything but
the third district um individuals
[2:21:52] of concern or some manufacturing thereof
uh i will speak on jerry's behalf in
[2:21:59] that he spends a lot of time at the
planning commission he goes out with
[2:22:03] with the staff down there if it weren't
for commissioner brad johnson
[2:22:07] and um jerry pearman we probably would
not have
[2:22:12] a viable code enforcement in this county
i know commissioner johnson did
[2:22:16] your person's work in that as a heavy
lift but jerry was also
[2:22:21] there supporting that effort now whether
you believe
[2:22:25] things were handled appropriately
hopefully we've put that behind us
[2:22:30] there is question to that but we know
why that was done
[2:22:33] because of the fact that the commission
didn't honor its agreement
[2:22:36] with with director schuler so i think
the issue comes that jerry is still
[2:22:43] supportive
he's a very good uh chair of the
[2:22:46] planning commission
and works very well with the planning uh
[2:22:50] commission
office thank you chair thank you anyone
[2:22:54] else
uh chairman hill um i'd like to speak on
[2:22:57] in a little bit uh
i know we all have had our indifferences
[2:23:01] over the last little bit of time with
uh with his position and everything but
[2:23:07] you know i didn't realize
i guess myself for the last few coming
[2:23:10] weeks
and mr pimera put in as much time as
[2:23:13] what he does over there
you know when being on the commission i
[2:23:18] understand
how important it is when you have a
[2:23:20] commission that puts in the time and
when you have a commissioner that
[2:23:23] doesn't put in the time
you know when you have somebody picking
[2:23:26] up the site for everybody else it takes
a lot
[2:23:28] um you know miss uh kristen works over
there i don't know if she's on here or
[2:23:32] not but she might be able to tell you
too
[2:23:34] you know pierman spent three hours over
in the office the other day
[2:23:39] prepping her and getting her ready for
her first day of court to do litter
[2:23:42] violation cases
that she had never done before and
[2:23:47] nobody else came in and offered to help
with that
[2:23:50] and then when we were short staffed but
due to the covet issue we had over there
[2:23:54] from my understanding pyramid coming and
worked in the office
[2:23:58] um to make sure that we was able to
still keep the office running
[2:24:01] uh you know i mean granted we've had
some
[2:24:05] issues and problems and i get that but
at the same point in time
[2:24:11] you know what kind of position or shape
might we be in in the event that
[2:24:14] we put somebody else there that's not
willing to put forth the same amount of
[2:24:18] effort
but that's all okay thank you mr james
[2:24:22] anybody else
hearing nobody else we'll go ahead and
[2:24:29] call for the vote uh madam clerk if
you'll start with the third district
[2:24:32] please and then work through the rest
bradley johnson
[2:24:40] mark tester
[2:24:49] willie campbell
[2:24:53] mark blavin's robert a cup
[2:25:00] nancy brown burra
mike hill hereman
[2:25:08] julie glenn burrow
[2:25:15] isaiah grandstaff burrow
jerry prophet austin james
[2:25:24] airman ross garland
burrow layla ward
[2:25:32] murrow ginger holdren
earl randall jenkins
[2:25:38] burrow gary bailey pearl
travis hill sherman
[2:25:48] sonja culler hereman
daniel mcintyre burrow
[2:25:56] aaron frazier burrow robin mckamey
[Music]
[2:26:02] kelly collins pierman
[Music]
[2:26:09] thomas prophet peter
[2:26:29] mr burrow will be the new third district
uh
[2:26:33] person on the planet commission
[2:26:36] that is all i have ladies and gentlemen
um aaron come here chairman fraser i did
[2:26:42] speak uh i was made aware of last night
that
[2:26:45] the board of uh zoning appeals had two
open spots i spoke with mr
[2:26:50] schuler today and he's going to
advertise those for us to address in may
[2:26:54] excellent sir what board was that travis
zoning and appeals i believe that's
[2:26:59] correct is that correct mr johnson
thank you thank you
[2:27:07] we'll move on to the landfill committee
with chairman bailey
[2:27:12] let the minute stand for their self hey
thank you
[2:27:16] highway
[2:27:20] thank you uh health and welfare dr
akthous
[2:27:24] thank you chairman uh just a couple of
comments
[2:27:28] uh regarding broadband uh the minutes
can
[2:27:31] obviously reflect the discussion of the
meeting but
[2:27:34] we voted um unanimously to ask
for a rollover for matching funds for
[2:27:41] rural broadband
of six hundred thousand dollars and i
[2:27:45] know uh
chairman hill said that uh we would
[2:27:49] probably
uh through this windfall profit if you
[2:27:53] will that comes from the state and other
sources be able to
[2:27:57] earmark some of those funds for rural
band broadband
[2:28:01] so we're okay with that i just want to
make sure that we don't lose our place
[2:28:05] at the table
and the second thing now that we know
[2:28:10] carter county schools will also benefit
from the windfall
[2:28:14] i would ask that the commission reach
out
[2:28:17] to the superintendent and the school
board and ask them
[2:28:20] also to match those funds
so that we can have a corpus of money
[2:28:26] that we
uh can go forward with as soon as uh
[2:28:31] the grants are released and applied for
probably sometime
[2:28:34] in late july or early august
thank you sir thank you okay we'll move
[2:28:41] on to financial management with
chairwoman holdren
[2:28:45] financial management has not met yet
this month
[2:28:48] we are meeting thursday as commissioner
james stated
[2:28:52] the purpose of that meeting will be to
primarily discuss
[2:28:55] the application process that will be
followed
[2:28:58] um everybody's welcome if you feel
comfortable meeting in person
[2:29:03] uh this coming thursday that's going to
be the biggest thing we have to
[2:29:06] accomplish in the coming
months thank you
[2:29:11] thanks for the education committee with
chairwoman award
[2:29:15] well well they need the minutes to
reflect their meeting
[2:29:18] okay thank you um building the grounds
uh i'm not sure who's gonna give that
[2:29:25] report
i will sir okay thank you um i had to
[2:29:30] fill in for isaiah this month because he
had a sick child
[2:29:35] we do have a couple of things that the
commission needs to vote on this evening
[2:29:41] one of which is uh something that we
voted on previously but there's been a
[2:29:46] slight change so we have to vote on it
again
[2:29:49] and that is a donation of land
uh up in the fish springs area
[2:29:56] if attorney hardin wouldn't mind to just
tell the commission why we have to vote
[2:30:00] on that again i would appreciate it
[2:30:06] sure uh
[2:30:09] when this was brought before the
commission before
[2:30:13] uh the property that is being donated
was still part of a larger
[2:30:18] tract that had not been subdivided
and the access to that track was off of
[2:30:24] uh
directly off of weathertown road i
[2:30:28] believe it is
anyway since that time uh and and also
[2:30:33] at the time the commission voted on it
before
[2:30:35] uh there was no uh restriction
or condition on the gift in terms of uh
[2:30:43] naming a park that would be developed
there
[2:30:47] uh since uh since that time
a letter came to light that had been
[2:30:53] given uh to former mayor barnett
uh where the church who's donating the
[2:30:59] land
basically said uh that they wanted to
[2:31:03] donate
i believe it's uh if i can find that i
[2:31:06] believe it's just over two acres
uh that it has been re-surveyed uh since
[2:31:12] the original
gift was going to be made and there is
[2:31:17] access to it the
40-foot wide easement right away off of
[2:31:21] weathertown road
not so it does not have direct road
[2:31:24] frontage
and they want the park named uh
[2:31:28] specifically after
a lady from that community and i don't
[2:31:33] have the file in front of me i cannot
remember the lady's name
[2:31:36] but maybe one of y'all have it uh so
those those conditions kind of changed
[2:31:41] from the last time it's brought before
the commission so if if approved
[2:31:45] i'll have to get in contact with the
trustees of the church
[2:31:50] and get specifics as to the deed
uh reservations because they've asked it
[2:31:58] that it
revert back to the church in the event
[2:32:01] it's not
utilized as a park uh so we have to
[2:32:04] clarify
a little bit of those terms as far as
[2:32:07] you know the length of time we have to
develop the park
[2:32:10] and just exactly what parameters they're
considering at park
[2:32:15] um and then also the uh the access to
make sure that we're granted
[2:32:21] you know legal access for the public via
the right of way
[2:32:27] thank you attorney hardin sorry to put
you on the spot like that
[2:32:30] but i knew you would still do a much
better job than i could have done
[2:32:35] so the building and grounds committee
did vote to accept the gift when the
[2:32:42] survey is completed giving us that
right-of-way
[2:32:45] uh we did discuss as
attorney hardin pointed out that you
[2:32:52] know they want it to be
hours as long as it's a park so he does
[2:32:56] need to clarify
the length of time they're going to give
[2:32:59] us to do that as mayor would be has
stated
[2:33:02] in the past and parks and rec has stated
we are a little short-handed when it
[2:33:06] comes to
working on our parks so we've got to
[2:33:09] make sure that
we we've got enough time to get this
[2:33:13] accomplished before they would want it
to revert back to them
[2:33:16] so anyway with that being said i'll
bring it to the commission as a motion
[2:33:22] from the
building and grounds committee to accept
[2:33:25] this gift with the new survey completion
for fish springs uh park second
[2:33:31] chairman hill aka first motion blind
miss chairman let me clarify uh
[2:33:38] since i found my file uh just for the
record uh the donation is from union
[2:33:44] baptist church
that is the owners union baptist church
[2:33:47] in hampton
uh the law is 2.112 acres
[2:33:52] they're asking that it be developed as a
park for kids
[2:33:56] in the community and they want it to be
named in memory of
[2:34:00] kathleen and ralph smith
[2:34:06] so those those are the conditions that
the gift would have to be accepted on
[2:34:11] everybody still good with that ginger
and dr akov
[2:34:15] i am i am okay okay any further
discussion
[2:34:18] i have one question yes sir mr tester
commissioner is there the feast clause
[2:34:24] in that need
where if it's not used as a park then it
[2:34:28] goes back to the church
[2:34:32] uh that is the proposal that is a
condition that they have offered
[2:34:37] the deed hasn't been prepared yet of
course i would prepare
[2:34:40] the deed uh if if we vote to accept
it but they have requested a reverter
[2:34:47] clause in the deed essentially
that if it is no longer used as a part
[2:34:51] that the property would revert back to
union baptist church
[2:34:55] thank you
anyone else chairman yes sir mr hill
[2:35:03] i've slept since we met but i think i
was a no then because of
[2:35:08] the strings attached to this donation it
seems to me that
[2:35:12] if the church wanted this many
stipulations on the the
[2:35:15] gift if you will which isn't really a
gift if there's a string where you can
[2:35:19] jerk it back at some point in time in
the future but
[2:35:22] if they want it developed in the manner
they want it developed
[2:35:25] and they used to be exactly what they
prescribed and that it should be named
[2:35:30] as they want it named it seems that
they would probably take that on as a
[2:35:34] project as an organization
and if they wanted the county's support
[2:35:38] they could certainly come to the county
as
[2:35:40] under an outside agency as a non-profit
right along with
[2:35:45] several other non-profits like the
animal rescues and such
[2:35:48] and ask for funding to assist in the
development of the park
[2:35:53] uh i can't support thank you
anyone else
[2:36:00] hearing none madam clark call the roll
please willie campbell
[2:36:03] aye martin blavin aye
robert yes auntie brown
[2:36:10] yes mike hill oh
julie gwen yes bradley johnson
[2:36:18] yeah mark kester yes
charles von cannon yes isaiah grimes day
[2:36:26] no jerry prophet
yes austin james
[2:36:34] ross garland no
layla ward
[2:36:43] layla ward no
andrew holdren yes
[2:36:51] randall jenkins yes
gary bailey no
[2:36:57] travis hill
[2:37:01] yes sonja color
yes daniel macon turf yes
[2:37:09] aaron frazier no robin mckamey
yes kelly collins
[2:37:17] no thomas prophet
yes
[2:37:25] ma'am clark i'd like to change my vote
to know please
[2:37:29] this is sonia mr sanjay yes ma'am
[2:37:48] 15 yes's eight no's
[2:37:58] motion passed
[2:38:04] okay may i continue sir it's ma'am okay
um we also need to vote on another
[2:38:09] donation
um ken good was able to attend our
[2:38:13] building and grounds committee meeting
um we have been offered
[2:38:19] uh a section of the old twixie railroad
right-of-way between mill pond road in
[2:38:24] valley forge
and railroad street in hampton
[2:38:29] um ken googe and mayor would be
and others have walked that section and
[2:38:36] checked it out
uh the trail is in relatively good shape
[2:38:40] the tunnel is also in excellent shape
the bridge crossing over the river is in
[2:38:46] terrible condition
and needs lots of work this would extend
[2:38:51] the tweetsie trail
to hampton it would add four and a half
[2:38:55] miles to the trail
and give access to the watershed trails
[2:39:00] uh attorney hardin did caution our
committee that as soon as we take
[2:39:04] ownership of this if we accept it
we are responsible for it
[2:39:10] the bridge would have to have signs
warning people
[2:39:14] that it's not safe for use
after a slideshow presentation lots of
[2:39:22] pictures and discussion and questions
and so forth
[2:39:25] a motion was made in that committee uh
to accept approximately 28 acres between
[2:39:32] valley forge and hampton
to extend our twitsy trail four and a
[2:39:36] half miles
in that committee that night it passed
[2:39:41] unanimously
so i bring it to you in the form of a
[2:39:45] motion this evening
to accept this gift
[2:39:50] to our county and extend our tweetsie
trail
[2:39:53] second all right ground staff
this is a question by miss holder and
[2:39:58] second by mr hill any discussion
uh i can't tell who's first mr bailey
[2:40:07] miss holden the bridge that you're
talking about
[2:40:11] is was blown up years ago there's only
one little bitty section
[2:40:15] right there i mean who's going to be
responsible if
[2:40:21] yeah it's not very which we put wide
[2:40:26] gary i think you're wrong gary i don't
know if you're talking about the right
[2:40:30] bridge
you know the railroad bridge is gone
[2:40:33] it's the highway bridge that's still
there yeah
[2:40:36] so technically guys there's there's two
highway bridges up there one
[2:40:41] is on the other side of the four lane
and it's almost
[2:40:44] it's almost demolished there's only
you'd have to be
[2:40:48] really really brave to cross it really
brave
[2:40:52] the other one that that we're talking
about it's got
[2:40:56] two sections out of it that's fell
through but there's room to walk around
[2:40:59] and i've walked around i took my son
around it
[2:41:02] you know when he was five years old we
walked around it hasn't changed in years
[2:41:06] it's been that way
for quite some time so
[2:41:10] my question is the bridge is still
if we take ownership of that we got a
[2:41:15] bridge that's got holes in it falling
through are we responsible
[2:41:18] you better believe it it is
i would say nothing more than putting
[2:41:23] some signs up there it's been there for
how many years like that
[2:41:28] liability yes sir mr mcintyre
that was my question for attorney hard
[2:41:34] and i think we should use the resource
we have
[2:41:37] if signs are posted are we still liable
if heaven forbid something does happen
[2:41:43] uh
you know i understand its donation and i
[2:41:48] i'm appreciative of that but
if we're going to be held accountable
[2:41:51] for an accident
on that bridge how can we keep that from
[2:41:57] happening
what do we need to go about to keep that
[2:42:00] from happening if the sign postage
is not sufficient
[2:42:05] i don't think you're same thing in the
highway portion of it you're accepting
[2:42:09] the right
bridge your ride wave to the tunnel
[2:42:15] back to the railroad trade across the
two pillows that are still there
[2:42:21] it's an excellent idea it's an expensive
idea because from the tunnel
[2:42:27] to the right of way to the west is going
to be
[2:42:31] filled another
a bicycle bridge or whatever
[2:42:38] it's it's a it's a great idea it's it's
just
[2:42:41] expensive idea
[2:42:45] attorney hardin
[2:42:50] yes sir is the sign postage is that
sufficient
[2:42:55] to keep us from any
liabilities definitely not
[2:43:02] uh cert certainly the the county could
be
[2:43:06] liable and the county would be sued i'm
sure
[2:43:10] if someone got hurt out there no matter
what you did but
[2:43:13] uh certainly i think what what would be
charged to do is is act
[2:43:20] reasonably and i think it would be more
than just you know nailing up a sign to
[2:43:24] a tree or
something i mean we would have to put
[2:43:28] some physical barrier
there that uh that we were definitely
[2:43:33] discouraging
access to the bridge and it's one thing
[2:43:36] to own it and people
just go there it's another thing to
[2:43:41] advertise it and invite people there and
that was kind of the distinction we
[2:43:44] talked about
in the meeting i'm not trying to
[2:43:48] dissuade anybody from
adopting accepting the gift and the gift
[2:43:53] is
no strings attached no conditions
[2:43:57] and it is 27 28 acres along the old
tweezy railroad bed um
[2:44:04] there's there's several easements uh or
utility easements in play there uh i
[2:44:11] think the
the water department or elizabeth and
[2:44:14] water and uh
watauga uh river regional water
[2:44:19] authority has easements and things
through there you couldn't do a lot of
[2:44:24] you know development obviously it's it's
more of a
[2:44:27] trail and there's parts of it i
understand i haven't been on it
[2:44:31] personally but there's parts of it
i understand that are fine right now and
[2:44:35] walking trails and it's
clear and perfectly uh
[2:44:40] cleared and level and i guess easy to
to maneuver on and there's other parts
[2:44:45] the parts that would be
obviously concerning are the the tunnel
[2:44:49] which i understand people have walked
through and rode through for years but i
[2:44:52] don't know anything about
the tunnel or the structural integrity
[2:44:57] of the tunnel and other tunnels
through the same trail that have
[2:45:01] collapsed in on themselves
but this one apparently hasn't so my
[2:45:06] my only concern was that we had some
professional
[2:45:09] who knew what they were doing to
evaluate the integrity of the tunnel
[2:45:14] and if it wasn't theme safe then it
needs to be closed off but if it's okay
[2:45:18] fine and the other thing was the bridge
that didn't
[2:45:22] from the pictures i saw look look safe
to walk on
[2:45:25] uh much less drive anything on so i
definitely that would have to be
[2:45:30] barricaded off in a way
uh that a reasonable person would uh
[2:45:35] would would say it would stop someone
from getting on that bridge
[2:45:39] but no matter what you do if someone
calls and gets hurt on that trail
[2:45:43] just like they would in any county on
property they're going to
[2:45:47] sue anybody they can to try to get some
money certainly
[2:45:53] chairman commissioner hill go ahead
i brought this up in the meeting the
[2:45:58] other night uh ty singer hampton and
associates did the engineering on the
[2:46:02] entirety of
the proposed tweetsie trail from
[2:46:05] downtown johnson
city all the way to the north carolina
[2:46:09] state line
that plan still exists somewhere there
[2:46:13] should be copies on file
over in planning and zoning the
[2:46:18] remediation plan for the bridge
consisted of some prefab panels that
[2:46:23] that would would carry bicycle traffic
and the tunnel engineering
[2:46:27] is on there if i'm not mistaken it
called for another
[2:46:31] sort of prefab platform that would
elevate
[2:46:35] people over the the water lines which
are actually
[2:46:38] encased if you look at the photos and
such
[2:46:41] um that would that would get the trail
all the way to uh
[2:46:45] in this case green bridge landing um
there's there's no proposal to go
[2:46:50] through the gorge at this time
but it would be a an incredible
[2:46:55] capture i do believe it would be prudent
to put up some fencing and to prevent
[2:47:01] access to the bridge portion until
the remediation could be done uh if
[2:47:05] anybody
will cared i'm sure we could ask um
[2:47:10] planning director schuler about
multimodal grants and that kind of thing
[2:47:14] uh if there is a point of interest
on one end of the of the the linear
[2:47:21] trail uh the linear park is what this
would become
[2:47:24] um and and some sort of ingress egress
and parking on at another location
[2:47:31] then it qualifies for some some grants
that are out there that that
[2:47:35] we don't typically seem to use
[2:47:42] anyone else mr chairman yes sir mr
bailey
[2:47:45] i have no problem with us opening the
trail up
[2:47:48] all the way to where it gets to that
bridge but i think once
[2:47:52] even if we owned it unlike them it needs
to stop there until we get an engineer
[2:47:57] or somebody to look at that because it's
long ways down to that river
[2:48:05] a lot of money dude i think you should
what do we gain
[2:48:09] oh we're putting these
chairman of the hill yes mr von cannon
[2:48:19] i think you have to accept for this
reason
[2:48:25] you your mileage then would equate
almost to the
[2:48:30] trail out of uh that
[2:48:34] trail in having that comes out at
damascus
[2:48:40] okay it almost equates to the mileage
and if you could extend it on across
[2:48:46] green bridge
but that there again you hit some
[2:48:49] private property before you get to the
gorge property the lord's property would
[2:48:53] probably they would go along with it
then you go on through two tunnels that
[2:48:59] are
operative then you go to the tunnel
[2:49:01] that's collapsed
and two more bridges the blevins bridge
[2:49:06] is one
uh talk to me about the railroad because
[2:49:11] i have studied that
for years and i would accept it
[2:49:18] but the but the real problem is over the
dough
[2:49:21] at the tunnel at valley forge
people would be jumping off of that
[2:49:28] thing
you'd have to do it like they did to
[2:49:32] johnson city across the interstate
and build a cage across the top of it
[2:49:37] until you couldn't jump off of it
uh it would be a it'd be a great
[2:49:44] great thing but it's going to cost money
like we haven't seen money before it
[2:49:49] probably cost more than railroad
did originally but
[2:49:54] i can see a great deal of opportunity
jack
[2:50:00] i don't see enough to invest any money
in it but
[2:50:05] it it's intriguing
it's intriguing chairman
[2:50:16] i'm poorly equipped to talk about it as
did ken good
[2:50:19] if randall can remember and understands
things better i
[2:50:22] i hope he'll speak but that is one of
the things that ken guge pointed out
[2:50:27] is that with that additional mileage our
twitsy trail
[2:50:32] uh is is a national attractor
for cyclists it's not just a local
[2:50:39] pleasurable thing anymore but we're
sponsoring the
[2:50:43] optium now we've got the mountain bike
trails in johnson city
[2:50:49] this would add to carter county and we
we become
[2:50:53] a little hub for cyclists
um if if we have this and
[2:50:59] so anyway i'll stop talking and see if
randall has anything he wants to add
[2:51:04] well i i support everything that you
just said
[2:51:08] and so much more adding this to
the tweetsie trail extension part of it
[2:51:14] uh
i mean i can't even think of the
[2:51:17] possibilities
uh it's it's endless to to see how many
[2:51:22] people use the trail down in town
and that's just middle of town to put
[2:51:27] the scenic part of it and if you haven't
walked up there and looked at this
[2:51:32] you need to it's in my backyard
not literally in my backyard it's where
[2:51:38] i learned how to fish
there's a lot of childhood memories up
[2:51:40] through there but that's a lot of people
around here
[2:51:43] and that could be a lot of future carter
counties
[2:51:47] too i'm going to think about that and to
make this part of the trail
[2:51:51] it would probably be the prettiest part
of the trail
[2:51:55] and there's been talks about the bridge
mike you might remember we've talked
[2:51:59] about it before
uh about making a pedestrian bridge
[2:52:05] it does get expensive but we've looked
at other
[2:52:08] opportunities or other avenues to go
just i i cannot see passing this
[2:52:16] opportunity up
i'm i'm probably a little biased i'm a
[2:52:19] lot biased
towards it but uh
[2:52:24] i'll try to answer any questions that
anybody's got
[2:52:28] chairman hill yes go ahead director
shooter
[2:52:31] uh if it's all right randall can i uh
mention some stuff from park and rec
[2:52:36] yeah absolutely go for it okay uh i went
to that
[2:52:39] uh last parking rec meeting when uh that
was announced uh
[2:52:43] myself and and mayor woodbe were there
uh
[2:52:47] at that time i decided to go ahead and
check on some information
[2:52:51] and uh really a pedestrian bridge
art is expensive especially that type of
[2:52:58] pedestrian bridge
as such as the one that we have in uh
[2:53:03] uh gap creek that'll be in place here in
the next few weeks
[2:53:07] so uh there is some some definite
changes and there's
[2:53:11] actually i spoke with a gentleman in
pennsylvania
[2:53:14] that's doing some of these new
pedestrian bridges
[2:53:17] and uh we talked about actually sloping
that bridge
[2:53:22] so that we can reach the tunnel there's
there's quite a bit of elevation
[2:53:25] difference
and uh i have to get up there i haven't
[2:53:28] had a chance to go up and survey it and
shoot it and see what the elevation
[2:53:31] change is
but there's a possibility that we can
[2:53:34] actually reach out
and continue the trail and still keep it
[2:53:38] ada compliance we won't have the three
percent
[2:53:42] greatest as a rail the trail would have
and then what uh commissioner hill
[2:53:47] uh second district uh uh iterated to was
uh
[2:53:51] the other grants that's out there
there's a lot of relative trail grants
[2:53:54] there's a lot of
multimodals that can be utilized uh
[2:53:58] it's something that myself and
commissioner jenkins looked at
[2:54:03] probably six years ago randall maybe
longer somewhere in there so
[2:54:09] google situation uh and yeah as mr as
commissioner bailey mentioned you know
[2:54:15] yeah it definitely needs something there
uh temporarily until we can figure out
[2:54:22] what we're gonna do on a bridge
and uh uh and work
[2:54:26] that out to make it safer but uh i think
it's a great opportunity
[2:54:31] and and i hope y'all go forward with it
uh
[2:54:34] i don't know what my status will be much
longer as far as dealing with parking
[2:54:38] wreck but i think it would be a good
idea
[2:54:40] uh to go ahead and accept it if we have
to block it off or at least make it a
[2:54:44] variable
type as as attorney hardin says i think
[2:54:48] it's a good deal
chairman hill yes mr president
[2:54:55] one other thing just for a point of
clarification
[2:54:59] that bridge i'd heard the number of 152
feet is that a relatively close to what
[2:55:03] the distance is
[2:55:07] are you talking about across it or yeah
across it
[2:55:11] oh yeah that would make it one of the
longest pedestrian foot bridges in the
[2:55:16] country
[2:55:20] that's an attraction by itself
[2:55:24] i don't know you think it's that long
i'm sorry i'm gonna have a little
[2:55:33] problem with my my uh
speaker here what was the question sir
[2:55:37] uh i was saying do you think that bridge
is 150 feet long
[2:55:40] i don't think it's quite that long uh
the longest pedestrian bridge
[2:55:44] that this company that that makes the
total
[2:55:47] bike hot bridges that i'm discussing
with
[2:55:52] i just put one in that was a hundred and
miss patty i sent it to you and ken good
[2:55:59] i think it was 164
feet uh supported in the end and that's
[2:56:04] all
and uh that was placed uh
[2:56:10] i can't remember exactly where it was
placed but that that's been in place
[2:56:13] for about six months now and it's
working fine
[2:56:17] so i'll like i said uh randall i'll have
to go over there and shoot it
[2:56:22] and shoot the elevation and shoot the
distance and see what we've got
[2:56:26] to the workable pliable surface there
and uh
[2:56:30] but right now i've been kind of swamped
so i haven't been able to take care of a
[2:56:33] lot of people are buying these seven
dollar two before us and building great
[2:56:36] big houses so
we've been a lot of land planning doing
[2:56:41] so
uh i'll try to get to it i can't promise
[2:56:44] you this week but before the next uh
uh meeting i'll i'll have you some
[2:56:49] information that's fine with the board
mr chairman justin just as an estimation
[2:56:54] do you think it's about 150 feet
i would venture to say it's probably
[2:57:00] right at about 140 feet my best guess
from the last time i was down there
[2:57:06] and i'm usually pretty close so i'll
shoot it is that mr frazier speaking
[2:57:11] yes sir yes sir i'll shoot that thing
and see where we're stand okay
[2:57:15] all right gary i think my uh
commissioner hill had his hand up a
[2:57:19] second ago and i'll get you uh yes sir
forward-looking um the the moment we get
[2:57:27] this trail eventually to the north
carolina state line
[2:57:30] we do have counterparts on the other
side of the state line that are very
[2:57:34] interested in carrying this forward
uh they've expressed that sort of thing
[2:57:38] mr shuttler's pro
prototype or counterpart over in avery
[2:57:42] county had
expressed some specific plans as to how
[2:57:46] it might be rooted
um if you if you look a little further
[2:57:50] ahead
uh and it possibly could get all the way
[2:57:53] across avery watauga
and ash you could back door connect to
[2:57:57] the virginia creeper trail that mr von
cannon was referring to
[2:58:00] a little while ago and then you really
have something that's regional in nature
[2:58:04] uh opens you up to all sorts of
possibilities for
[2:58:08] buckets of funding and that sort of
thing and i'll yield back and shut up
[2:58:12] now
and mr bill speaking i apologize mr may
[2:58:16] speak go ahead yes sir
yeah as a commissioner hill from 2nd
[2:58:20] district was speaking of
we've met with them multiple times
[2:58:26] uh and it actually would probably go
from a
[2:58:29] tweetsie trail to a over mountain
victory trail
[2:58:33] switch the trail would be more of the
bicyclist
[2:58:36] and then the over mountain would would
split off up there
[2:58:39] so it's a win-win anyway we go and also
we've been in contact all the way back
[2:58:45] to when uh
mr hughes bob hughes was chairman of the
[2:58:49] planning commission with uh
the town of damascus and working with
[2:58:53] state of virginia
of course some of those guys aren't in
[2:58:56] the elected positions anymore and some
of them passed away but actually working
[2:59:00] out iron mountain trail where it comes
off of the uh
[2:59:04] appalachian trail that goes on in it
would attach to the creeper trail
[2:59:08] uh so and uh uh i can't think of the
other mountain trail off the creeper
[2:59:13] trail
so we've worked on all that we have a
[2:59:15] lot of information on that so
i mean even if we can't cross the bridge
[2:59:20] right now i think it's a good idea to
take it and let's move forward
[2:59:25] mr bailey i was actually going to ask
myself
[2:59:28] if she'd take an amendment to that that
basically we would take it to the bridge
[2:59:32] and join it with the one we had and stop
there until we get some quotes on
[2:59:36] what it cost us to fix the bridge or to
get one across or whatever it is but
[2:59:42] basically
um amendment to the motion to we stop at
[2:59:46] the bridge
and fix it from there down then we come
[2:59:50] back and look at what it costs till we
get
[2:59:52] chris gets a chance to survey a height
we can get a quote
[2:59:55] well it's going to cost us what we look
at that way it's not our responsibility
[2:59:59] instantly tonight but it still lets us
go on and take that other portion
[3:00:03] and go with it uh mr chairman can i
speak on that yes
[3:00:06] director yeah aggravation i apologize
y'all but uh
[3:00:10] actually gary tysinger of ty singer
hampton partners is now
[3:00:14] actually retired he is a
licensed civil engineer and he is also a
[3:00:21] railroad engineer uh construction
engineer
[3:00:24] and uh i've got him on speed dial so we
can move forward with that we can block
[3:00:28] it off take the stuff
block off what we have to until we can
[3:00:32] get his report
and i'm sure he'd be more than happy to
[3:00:35] assist us in that
because right now he's actually working
[3:00:38] on our other project with doe river
gorge
[3:00:40] and uh i don't think i you know i think
i can mention that i think
[3:00:43] mr von kan knows we're getting ready to
have a christmas train there
[3:00:47] quite a large long run so uh gary's
actually working on that and i can get
[3:00:52] him to work on
uh i'll beg bum and borrow him and trade
[3:00:55] some radios or something with him and
get him to uh
[3:00:58] to go and look at it with us and see
where we go but
[3:01:02] i don't think walking will be that big
at all go for
[3:01:07] thank you all aaron hill
yes mr tester
[3:01:14] [Music]
my questions for probably mr hard mr
[3:01:18] harden do you know whether that
from my understand that was part of the
[3:01:22] tweetsie railroad
do you know whether that easement
[3:01:25] through there has been put in the
federal railroad bank or not
[3:01:32] my understanding uh commissioner tester
this company
[3:01:35] management properties inc uh they they
own uh this 27.12 acres essentially and
[3:01:44] fee i mean they are
they are the fee simple owners uh to my
[3:01:48] knowledge
uh the railroad
[3:01:52] right away isn't in play through there
anymore is my understanding
[3:01:56] uh they've this company has owned it
outright and paid taxes on it i believe
[3:02:00] since 19
95 or thereabouts so i
[3:02:06] i don't know if i can exactly answer
your question but i don't think
[3:02:09] that the railroad right away is in play
anymore
[3:02:14] mr chairman could i jump in that again
please yes sir go ahead
[3:02:17] and uh mr tester uh what happened on
that was the uh
[3:02:22] the oil company and i can't remember if
it was united or simcoe or whatever it
[3:02:26] was
actually bought all those properties and
[3:02:29] the railroad in that area
went back to the actual physical owners
[3:02:34] uh of the property real property so
you're not just getting
[3:02:38] the railroad right away you're getting
the entire property that they own in a
[3:02:42] fee simple form
thank you thank you chris that was my
[3:02:47] question because i knew that the rest of
that railroad through there was
[3:02:51] uh was turned over to railroad bank and
they actually did not have the right to
[3:02:57] do that
so exactly uh epsc
[3:03:01] western north carolina railroad had an
agreement through and it was
[3:03:04] in the 1800s that if they abandoned that
railroad
[3:03:08] uh multiple portions of that railroad
did not meet that criteria but uh
[3:03:13] that definitely through that area did
meet the criteria
[3:03:16] if it didn't go to the county or the the
uh the governing body
[3:03:20] then it went back to the the uh
adjoining land owners
[3:03:23] so that's how that ended up in that
piece of property sir
[3:03:27] thank you chris thank you
thank you mr johnson go ahead i call for
[3:03:33] the motion
okay let's go ahead and take the vote
[3:03:38] most of my miss holder and say goodbye
mr hill
[3:03:41] i'm click call roll please
willie campbell no mark blevins
[3:03:50] mark blevins no robert aka
yes nancy brown
[3:03:57] yes mike hill yes
julie gwen
[3:04:05] yes bradley johnson here
mark tester yes trust von cannon
[3:04:12] absolutely i'd say a grand staff
absolutely gary prophet yes
[3:04:19] austin james
ross garland yes layla ward
[3:04:27] yes ginger holdren yes
randall jenkins yes no i had awesome
[3:04:34] that yes
i'm kidding i'm joking
[3:04:38] jerry bailey
[3:04:41] yeah travis hill yes
sonja color yes
[3:04:48] daniel mcintyre yes
aaron fraser yes robin mckamey
[3:04:56] yes kelly collins yes
thomas prophet yes 21 eyes
[3:05:05] motion passed thank you chairman can i
say something real quick this turn
[3:05:10] right i don't know what the process is
but we need to make sure that we
[3:05:14] we get that blocked off that i don't
know if that was added or not i i didn't
[3:05:18] i didn't hear but we need to make sure
that bridge is is completely barricaded
[3:05:22] and tunnel until we get this
process done like attorney hardin said
[3:05:26] that was going to be my question daniel
who
[3:05:29] chris is this something you will do or
who's going to be responsible for making
[3:05:32] sure the bridge is
blocked off at both ends no
[3:05:40] i'm sorry my mouse ain't working right
anyways uh
[3:05:44] if it gets donated i i can work with the
parking wreck and make something happen
[3:05:50] i can contact the parks and rec i mean
i'd be happy to work with chris on it
[3:05:54] and i can contact
ken tonight and we can start action
[3:05:59] i didn't have something i needed to do
randall just keep me in the loop if you
[3:06:03] need me
to help do anything yeah absolutely
[3:06:07] yeah the thing about it is and attorney
hardin
[3:06:11] didn't want to say this but no matter
what you do
[3:06:14] as a county they could see you over a
bologna sandwich if they dropped it in
[3:06:18] the trail so just be ready for some
idiot like that but uh
[3:06:23] the key is to make it were a serviceable
individual
[3:06:27] with the service of a brain would know
that it is dangerous
[3:06:31] and uh mr mcturf i'll make sure it's
took care of sir
[3:06:35] thank you somebody said it's a baloney
sandwich and somebody gets
[3:06:38] killed there josh are you still on there
[3:06:44] yes sir as we voted here tonight and we
accepted that right now we've become
[3:06:51] so loners of that property no sir
they'll have to be they'll have to be a
[3:06:57] deed prepared
uh and it has to be actually signed by
[3:07:01] the uh
authorized representative of this
[3:07:05] company i imagine the president of the
company
[3:07:07] i had i had some email contact with the
gentleman who was uh
[3:07:12] talking with mr googe about it but i'm
not sure
[3:07:16] has been said here right now they're
going to prepare the deed obviously if
[3:07:19] they're
donating and they'll probably want us to
[3:07:21] do so i'll prepare the deed but until
that is actually signed
[3:07:25] up and recorded in the register dude's
office we don't take possession until
[3:07:30] the end so
i i would suggest that some coordination
[3:07:33] happen there with uh
mr shuttler and maybe mr dude park and
[3:07:37] folks to have the uh
the means lined up to get that
[3:07:41] accomplished before the actual transfer
happens
[3:07:44] that's what i was getting now because if
somebody gets killed
[3:07:47] always remember that is there a way we
can cut that bridge out of there where
[3:07:52] we're not responsible
uh the offer was all i believe all or
[3:07:57] nothing i don't think they were gonna
just donate part of it so it's all
[3:08:02] one one donation of the entire thing
they don't want for responsibility
[3:08:06] either do they
guys it's been there that way for 20
[3:08:10] plus years
let's let the 24
[3:08:16] well man in the condition it's in right
now it's been that way for 20 plus years
[3:08:21] let's just move on let the committees do
their work and then we'll come back to
[3:08:25] the full floor and talk about it
instead of wasting time tonight
[3:08:31] um chairman hill i'll just hold him
i have one more thing to say about
[3:08:37] building the grounds and then
that that part will be finished for the
[3:08:40] evening i just want to thank the
commission
[3:08:42] for their due diligence uh their
concerns are well placed and and
[3:08:48] strongly noted
uh so i just want to thank everybody for
[3:08:52] that
and then we'll move on to the the last
[3:08:55] thing will just be a mansion there's
nothing to vote on here
[3:08:58] but we are still in contract
negotiations or at least negotiations i
[3:09:03] should call it
with northeast state uh they first
[3:09:07] proposed ten thousand dollars
a year uh mayor whitby went back to them
[3:09:13] with some questions from us
they came back again proposing eighty
[3:09:17] six thousand dollars per year lease for
five
[3:09:20] years uh they're calling that their
break even
[3:09:23] uh point they have to
pay no more than that in order to
[3:09:29] sustain their efforts
we asked them some very specific
[3:09:32] questions though through mayor would be
and they did not answer them
[3:09:36] so building a grounds committee asked dr
bullock to please go back
[3:09:41] and come to us again next month with
those questions
[3:09:45] answered um so just know that we're in
talks with her and we value
[3:09:52] your input as a commission uh
any anything you all have to say
[3:09:57] regarding that issue we would appreciate
um that we could bring up to her when we
[3:10:01] see her next
month
[3:10:07] thank you that's it sir thank you
all right let's move on to rules and
[3:10:12] bylaws
it's chairman jenkins i believe
[3:10:17] let the uh minutes reflect please okay
thank you
[3:10:22] yes johnson don't you you know what
that's the longest i've ever heard
[3:10:27] ramble
talk in the past five years
[3:10:32] all right he should go live zoom i'd
like to see what he looks like
[3:10:39] all right let's move on to law
enforcement and beer board with
[3:10:43] chairman hill law enforcement had no
agenda there was nothing
[3:10:47] brought forward to us to bring to the
commission or vice versa
[3:10:51] beer board will most likely be meeting
later next month
[3:10:55] um next month probably third thursday
for beer board members um there is a
[3:11:01] permit application that's been picked up
but it has not been returned at this
[3:11:05] time that i know
get ready we gotta um go and look at one
[3:11:11] thank you very much uh planning with the
director shutler
[3:11:16] uh yes sir we'll have next planning
commission will be may 25th
[3:11:21] and we'll move forward with that thank
you thank you
[3:11:24] uh animal shelter dr ako
[3:11:28] thank you chairman um just a couple of
things
[3:11:31] regarding the shelter
[3:11:35] councilman kim bergsfield stepped down
uh in representing the city the council
[3:11:42] has appointed mayor kurt alexander to
take his place
[3:11:47] kurt joined us this last animal shelter
meeting so he'll be
[3:11:51] part of the representation for for the
city council going forward
[3:11:56] we are in the process of developing a
job description
[3:11:59] for the animal shelter director we've
never had a job description for the
[3:12:04] director
that has always been sidestepped but uh
[3:12:08] mike simmerley and i have taken that
task and we just finished the draft
[3:12:12] today
it will be sent back out and we'll
[3:12:15] consider it
at the next at next month's uh animal
[3:12:18] shelter board meeting
uh mayor woodby and mayor
[3:12:24] um alexander along with uh
city manager estes and uh chairman
[3:12:30] hill will receive letters probably by
the end of this week
[3:12:34] uh requesting that we invite
mtas and ctas to come to carter county
[3:12:41] elizabethton to evaluate the animal
shelter for a 501 c
[3:12:45] 3 status much like what they did for
sullivan county kingsport
[3:12:50] prior to making uh that move
by that entity so hopefully we can
[3:12:56] have that in the process um before we
proceed there are a whole bunch of
[3:13:01] unanswered questions i know that
attorney hardin was concerned about how
[3:13:06] uh
county employees could be part of a 501
[3:13:09] c 3 and still be paid by the county
those are just that just one
[3:13:13] example of a conundrum that we want
answered so we thought we would
[3:13:19] turn to the experts and ask them to
come and give us an evaluation the other
[3:13:26] thing that
was unanimously passed by the animal
[3:13:28] shelter board is just to ask both
council and commission if you need
[3:13:33] statistics or have concerns or
other issues about the animal shelter we
[3:13:38] would ask that you forward them
to the animal shelter board first and we
[3:13:42] will provide you all those
answers um going forward uh
[3:13:47] we've instructed shannon to make sure
that
[3:13:50] in the minute you always have numbers of
the census for animals down there
[3:13:55] how much spay and neutering we are doing
what how many animals
[3:13:59] uh are adopted along with things like
the feral cat program
[3:14:04] which has been very very successful i
just talked to some folks
[3:14:08] over the weekend who adopted
feral cats from the shelter so they
[3:14:14] could use them as barn cats
so there's a lot of folks that are
[3:14:18] taking advantage of that program and
shannon and her staff are to be
[3:14:22] congratulated for
uh what they're doing down there um
[3:14:27] i think that's all i'll answer questions
from me chairman hill thank you
[3:14:30] anybody have any questions about the
animal shelter chairman
[3:14:34] yes mayor would be well this is i just
wanted to
[3:14:38] jump back at randall and remind him that
his committee did vote
[3:14:41] on the july 4th holiday that he probably
needs to bring through full commission
[3:14:45] yes
sorry sorry mayor that's all right i
[3:14:48] just wanted to remind you
the calendar change so i'll step back in
[3:14:54] here in just a second and
and do that travis just come back to me
[3:14:58] i will i'll get you on parking wreck if
that's all right
[3:15:00] all right all right ginger or miss hold
on go ahead
[3:15:04] i just wanted um to thank the animal
shelter board
[3:15:07] for the work that they're doing the
questions that they're bringing
[3:15:11] uh for the directive to director pasada
to provide us with census numbers
[3:15:17] i think that's a great step and i
appreciate it very much
[3:15:21] um i just want to clarify the reason for
bringing in ctas and mtas though because
[3:15:27] a financial management committee looked
at that possibility
[3:15:31] but when we found out that sullivan
county
[3:15:35] didn't really go with their
recommendation that was one reason we
[3:15:39] didn't bring them in
and the second reason was um that
[3:15:44] whichever gentleman i spoke with said
that it would take many many months for
[3:15:47] them to do
a study so are you asking them to study
[3:15:52] whether or not and a non-profit is
feasible
[3:15:56] or more like how to go about
doing that well i think it's both
[3:16:03] uh in terms of a non-profit
they evaluate as they did for sullivan
[3:16:09] county in kingsport
the ability to support a non-profit
[3:16:13] entity in those counties
in that city so i think that's good for
[3:16:17] us to know the other
things that make it um an opportunity to
[3:16:22] ask m test c
task not only the question that josh
[3:16:26] harden had in terms of
what we do with
[3:16:33] making county employees part of a 501c3
how does that work number two what about
[3:16:39] their benefits
leave longevity with the county how does
[3:16:43] that work
what about if uh it is a 501c3 and it
[3:16:48] assumes that position
do does the city give the land to the
[3:16:53] 501c3 and the county give the building
or they
[3:16:55] maintain their rights so i think there
are a number of questions that haven't
[3:17:00] been
answered just because we approved and as
[3:17:03] uh city manager este said just before
the county commission
[3:17:08] approved that they wanted a good move
for a 501c3 it doesn't happen overnight
[3:17:13] uh there are a whole host of questions
that need to be answered
[3:17:17] and i have not talked with uh hardy or
hall
[3:17:21] uh about the this but i would hope that
with mayor woodby's help
[3:17:26] and mayor alexander's help
that they could be forthright in asking
[3:17:32] him tests
and see tasks to do due diligence as
[3:17:35] quickly as possible
thank you yes ma'am
[3:17:40] anyone else hearing then let's move on
to
[3:17:44] agriculture with chairman tester
we'll let the minutes reflect the
[3:17:50] meeting thank you all right let's go
ahead and jump to park and rack and let
[3:17:53] randall finish up with rules and bylaws
[3:18:06] randall
[3:18:10] we'll come back to randall let's get
main street industrial development with
[3:18:13] chairman frazier
uh main street nothing new
[3:18:19] really to report right now that we're
mainly focusing on a facade grant that i
[3:18:22] think we're working on
and uh some of the downtown activities
[3:18:27] coming up this summer and a few other
things
[3:18:32] main thing is the first friday of the
dance those are always
[3:18:35] huge and do do a lot to help out the
local downtown businesses
[3:18:40] um as well as i've not seen the car show
the past couple weeks but hopefully
[3:18:44] they'll get it fired back up here
relatively soon as well
[3:18:50] you ready yet yeah i'm i'm here i'm
sorry i was on
[3:18:53] you the whole time sorry uh so
uh so rules and bylaws of the committee
[3:18:59] voted
the original holiday list that we had uh
[3:19:03] had
the fourth of july uh uh holiday
[3:19:07] for the courthouse to be closed on the
second
[3:19:10] uh we we voted to move that to the fifth
so i just need to
[3:19:14] i'll put that in form of a motion
[3:19:20] motion by mr jenkins second with mr
tester to move the july 4th holiday
[3:19:24] from the second to the fifth any
discussion
[3:19:30] hearing that might impart call the role
please willie campbell
[3:19:34] all right mark blavins yes robert aitken
yes ma'am nancy brown
[3:19:41] yes mike hill yes
julie glenn yes bradley johnson
[3:19:48] yeah mark tester yes
charles von cannon yes i said grandstand
[3:19:56] yes very private yes
austin james ross garland
[3:20:03] yes award yes
ginger holden yes randall jenkins
[3:20:10] yes gary bailey yes travis hill
yes send your color yes
[3:20:18] daniel mcintyre yes aaron frazier
yes robin mckamey yes
[3:20:25] kelly collins yes
yes all right
[3:20:32] thank you and as far as parks and rec
guys i'll
[3:20:37] i'll just take a moment and say thank
you and
[3:20:40] no matter how angry or upset i sounded i
i really do appreciate you guys and
[3:20:46] parks and rec
will always do its due diligence before
[3:20:50] you know
we take on a big project we discussed it
[3:20:53] uh
it went to building grounds we will do
[3:20:57] our due diligence
we'll take care i mean we always put the
[3:21:00] county first and anytime the county
takes
[3:21:03] ownership of a property there is
liability anytime
[3:21:06] we take any ownership of any property
so i do appreciate you guys and
[3:21:11] hopefully i'll have more answers for you
very soon thank you
[3:21:17] let's move on to the chamber of commerce
and keep cars
[3:21:20] with commissioner garland righty uh just
want to thank everybody for allowing the
[3:21:26] the chamber to come on and then hear
what they're into they're they're really
[3:21:29] working hard
we've we really hit the gold mine with
[3:21:32] the higher enjoy on she's really
reintroduced some stuff memberships gone
[3:21:38] sky high you know picked up some people
so they're really doing good they're
[3:21:41] helping us
out and uh you know luke luke's working
[3:21:43] hard seth in there too they're
they're all doing good um but i'll let
[3:21:47] their presentation just kind of reflect
what they're doing but uh tune in to the
[3:21:51] legislative breakfast and i think she's
asking
[3:21:54] if you want to get involved in that or
be be part of that just go ahead and let
[3:21:57] her know as soon as possible as far as
tickets go because it is
[3:22:01] limited capacity uh keep carter county
beautiful this is a busy time of year
[3:22:05] for us
a lot's happened i mean since the last
[3:22:09] commission meeting we've
cleaned up milligan highway we planted
[3:22:12] 33 trees on the twisty trail
uh great group effort community effort
[3:22:18] city elizabethan
carter county keep clark county
[3:22:21] beautiful mayor woodby was there
ginger was there uh as always uh let's
[3:22:26] see
it was turned out to be a great event
[3:22:29] except for travis was there too don't
let me forget him
[3:22:31] uh right in the middle of a hail storm
and that was that was
[3:22:34] some experience but uh we battled
through the mud and got them finished up
[3:22:39] so it turned out great they're already
blooming out so if you're going down the
[3:22:42] tweetsie trail behind
uh grind staff for in front of sycamore
[3:22:47] sycamore springs
uh in hoffman's office you'll see the
[3:22:50] the new plantings there
uh great acquisition they've come along
[3:22:54] good
uh ed actually uh we had the
[3:22:58] executive director keep tennessee
beautiful was here this past friday to
[3:23:02] recognize ed
for uh for his achievement the love for
[3:23:06] you live award
which is a statewide award given to one
[3:23:09] person
uh we were lucky enough of our group and
[3:23:13] ed to receive that
that's normally done in nashville you
[3:23:17] know that's presented by the governor
so it was a big deal with covert
[3:23:20] restrictions and all that we were
limited
[3:23:22] limited to uh black golov on friday
attended by
[3:23:28] many delegates ginger uh mayor woodley
was there of course
[3:23:31] benny was there captain smith a lot of
city delegates as well chamber of
[3:23:36] commerce represented was fantastic uh
the following day saturday trasher size
[3:23:41] on the tweetsie trail
uh fantastic event had 40 plus people
[3:23:46] turn out for that
and it was you know streamed throughout
[3:23:50] the state again
facebook social media and promoted that
[3:23:53] way too
and it was really great because it
[3:23:56] brought a whole bunch of people
together i mean there were kids that
[3:23:59] were three four or five years old
carrying signs for us
[3:24:03] a diverse group uh also had the apes
there that
[3:24:06] uh they went to the part of the where
the queries at above happy valley
[3:24:10] elementary
and their group took kayaks up there and
[3:24:13] cleaned it out
so a lot of good things have been going
[3:24:16] on and a lot of good things coming up as
well
[3:24:20] i know they're going we're going to
plant some i think put some seeds down a
[3:24:24] few locations up closer towards
town um and they were coming up to
[3:24:28] ripshin there's been a legal dump site
up there
[3:24:31] there been noticed uh gonna be a team
effort with forest service and
[3:24:36] several other uh entities uh
to help clean that up that's later
[3:24:40] that's that's into may
june or something like that so it's you
[3:24:45] know how hard that group works and how
hard
[3:24:47] his edge to drive so thankful for adding
that that whole bunch so
[3:24:53] that pretty much sums it up for that
that group and thanks thank you to
[3:24:56] everybody that's been a part of it
uh just in this short this past month
[3:25:01] thank you commissioner garland last but
not least the city council update so
[3:25:06] dr acuff or commissioner tester any
update for city council
[3:25:12] uh chairman i'll let um
mr tester also comment but we
[3:25:19] were kind of late to the to the meeting
and the fact that
[3:25:22] we didn't get an agenda or a zoom link
um uh i should have probably texted
[3:25:29] uh the city manager's office when i saw
that it was a present so
[3:25:34] we we both kind of missed that meeting
okay
[3:25:37] okay no worries uh what we'll get i
think they're from here on out i think
[3:25:40] they're in person so
we'll get you taken care of correct yeah
[3:25:44] all right
so that does it for committee reports
[3:25:46] but i didn't miss anybody so we'll move
on to county attorney report
[3:25:55] all right yeah i think i'm unmuted now
uh
[3:25:59] as far as litigation goes
this month uh the lawsuit that was
[3:26:05] brought by mr mcgee jim mcgee
uh versus the county out on ridgecrest
[3:26:10] drive or the
right-of-way issue that lawsuit has been
[3:26:14] dismissed
by chancellor rambo we're still within
[3:26:19] the
appeal period uh but as as we stand
[3:26:23] right now that
uh that case was dismissed and no no
[3:26:26] liability on part of the county
uh as far as litter violation cases
[3:26:32] the court was a little backed up with
the
[3:26:36] covered restrictions and the in-person
hearings but we're back on track with
[3:26:39] those now
we had 10 leader violation cases heard
[3:26:43] the other day on
the 8th of this month and 10 judgments
[3:26:48] uh in our favor in all cases
there are six others that are in the
[3:26:53] process of
service and everything before those
[3:26:56] hearings are set and i drafted three new
leader complaints just uh
[3:27:02] last week and those will be filed
shortly
[3:27:06] as far as the opioid litigation
many of you all may be aware over in
[3:27:13] sullivan county
uh chancellor moody actually granted a
[3:27:17] default judgment
in favor of the plaintiffs which is us
[3:27:21] and all the other
season counties in the first three
[3:27:25] judicial districts in tennessee
a couple weeks ago or last week that
[3:27:29] default
uh judgment was granted uh
[3:27:33] essentially just ruling that
[3:27:36] the pharmaceutical companies were liable
and now
[3:27:40] the only issue that remains is uh for
how much money
[3:27:44] and that's going to be a jury trial and
i believe it's i believe it's set for
[3:27:47] july
of course there may be some appeals or
[3:27:53] various tactics that may lengthen that
some more it's already been going on a
[3:27:58] few years but we're talking about
you know multi millions of dollars at
[3:28:04] stake so i'm sure
everything will be tried that can be
[3:28:08] tried but as as as far as we're standing
right now everything is positive
[3:28:12] uh there were a couple of new lawsuits
filed against county this past
[3:28:17] month one from an inmate former inmate
mr lanie markland who alleged
[3:28:24] excessive force was used against him
that's in the very early stages in
[3:28:27] district court
in greenville uh second
[3:28:32] lawsuit was basically a statewide class
action suit
[3:28:38] against every county in tennessee for a
procedural issue on dui arrests
[3:28:44] and both both of those new cases the
county insurance carrier is providing
[3:28:49] representation so those are both in the
very early stages
[3:28:53] other than that uh my general
monthly work will be detailed in my
[3:28:58] report that'll be
filed with the clerk thank you anybody
[3:29:03] have any questions for tony harden
[3:29:13] mr frazier um i would like your
indulgence that we
[3:29:17] uh and put forth a motion that we
empower the county mayor to
[3:29:21] negotiate on behalf of the county
commission in the county
[3:29:25] with the joint economic and community
development board to
[3:29:28] structure a uh or begin the structuring
of
[3:29:32] and budgeting for a economic community
development
[3:29:36] director and potentially subordinates
[3:29:43] okay we have a motion by mr frazier
[3:29:50] any discussion is that all the details
we're going to get
[3:29:55] just a motion we don't we don't know
anything about
[3:30:01] structure salaries whatever whatever we
could stay
[3:30:04] all night on that one correct i suggest
you come back with a
[3:30:08] plan uh that's what this is to set up
charlie is to
[3:30:13] work with the joint economic community
development board where the city sits at
[3:30:17] to get the plan started and see how they
want to proceed or if they even want to
[3:30:23] proceed let me ask this question i saw
that
[3:30:27] net rep was not in on the uh
budget request does anybody know why
[3:30:33] they're closing
all right they're closing as far as i
[3:30:35] know i think they actually requested
some money
[3:30:40] well they just uh we didn't
we're not appropriating anything for
[3:30:45] this chair is that it
we were not to that yet they just
[3:30:49] announced 200 jobs
ride with who'd ride with who provides
[3:30:54] jobs
[3:31:04] ride with who provides jobs and if you
can't drive
[3:31:08] 30 miles 246 people used to drive from
here to eastman
[3:31:13] and it's a lot shorter to telford
[3:31:18] you're going to get some of those jobs
if you're blind
[3:31:21] yes mr johnson i just you know they can
speak about net rep all they want to
[3:31:26] you know we have today that spent 320
000 in our budget to them
[3:31:32] now commissioners tell me what you've
got in return
[3:31:36] they didn't find no job somebody else
found it they're on the caboose that at
[3:31:40] the end of the tr
end of the train they always ride
[3:31:43] they're worthless
[3:31:48] any more discussion on commissioner
frazier's motion
[3:31:56] [Music]
[3:32:00] mark blavins yes robert aka
no nancy brown
[3:32:08] yes my kill
no specific information it's a no from
[3:32:15] me
julie gwen no
[3:32:20] brad johnson no
mark taster no
[3:32:27] charles von cannon no
isaiah grimes dave yes
[3:32:35] prophet noah austin james
ross garland yes
[3:32:43] layla ward no
[3:32:47] ginger holdren yes
randall jenkins yes
[3:32:53] gary bailey oh
travis hill yes
[3:33:00] john your color no
danny mcintyre yes
[3:33:08] aaron fraser yes robin mckamey
yes kelly collins
[3:33:15] no thomas prophet
[3:33:30] now
[3:33:37] 10 years is 13 knows motion failed
[3:33:42] i'm not doing anything else trying to
get economic development in this county
[3:33:46] you're on your own
[3:33:50] jeremy hill may i speak yes miss gwen
[3:33:55] my no came from not the idea of getting
economic development
[3:34:02] but if you go through any place in
carter county right now
[3:34:06] what do you see on their signs and in
their windows
[3:34:11] can anybody tell me that now hiring now
hiring help wanted signs
[3:34:17] how many people are going to come here
and start up a business when they cannot
[3:34:22] field help my business has this problem
every place that i know has this problem
[3:34:28] i am
absolutely not knocking economic
[3:34:31] development because i
i think there's room for that but i
[3:34:35] think our bigger pandemic is the fact
that everybody's lazy and nobody wants
[3:34:38] to work
because the jobs are out there high
[3:34:43] paying jobs low paying jobs
mid jobs nobody wants to work
[3:34:50] that is my biggest that's my biggest
concern with that
[3:34:54] and i you know
i just wanted to put that out there
[3:35:03] any other commissioner comments
[3:35:07] i would like to say i mean that's i
don't know
[3:35:10] if he was saying that's just for
elizabethan but you know it's happening
[3:35:14] everywhere kingsport john city
uh it's everywhere and you know until
[3:35:21] we stop getting free money meaning get
nobody to work
[3:35:24] so exactly
and the problem is i don't want to jump
[3:35:28] into spending the kind of money we're
going to have to spend for a director in
[3:35:32] this full program
and then it not get us anywhere if we're
[3:35:36] going to do it at least put a cap on it
i mean if we don't get anything back in
[3:35:42] maybe two years then
you know maybe re-evaluate it
[3:35:48] two years doesn't even scratch the
surface you've got it's generally
[3:35:52] five to ten years before you start
seeing a return
[3:35:57] that's a big gamble with the taxpayer
money when you can't find help to fill
[3:36:01] the business
it's not about finding help to fill the
[3:36:04] businesses you've got tourism that's got
to be covered and recreational
[3:36:07] development
not only and as well as economic
[3:36:11] development
br e's business retention and expansion
[3:36:14] keeping businesses from leaving
entrepreneurship classes in the high
[3:36:18] schools small business
incubator that's all the stuff that's
[3:36:21] got to be taken care of
well see none of that was presented when
[3:36:24] we talked about it and they gave us that
outline
[3:36:27] i think more information would most
certainly be helpful to make it
[3:36:31] thank you well maybe it was before i
came on board i'm not sure
[3:36:40] anyone else
[3:36:45] motion to adjourn everybody have a great
evening thank you all