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this isn't a good start

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to we're gonna evaluate your reaction
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here good morning welcome to the January
2nd 2024 County Board of Commissioners

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meeting please join me in the Pledge of

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Allegiance United States of America and
the repic which it stands one nation

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godp with

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so my apologies we are not streaming
today we are however

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recording welcome again to the first
meeting of the year uh first item of

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business is to nominate and elect the
chair for

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2024 like i' like nominate Gil dler
commer dler has been nominated any other

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nominations nominate Tom
Workman Mr Workman has been nom

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nominated any other
nominations any other

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nominations hearing none I think I need
do I need a

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second the chair I do not okay uh then
I'll I'll do a a vote on

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commissioner dler as the county Caro
County Board chair all in favor say I I

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so oppos say nay I uh the motion is
successful and a three to

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vote thank you I want to take a brief
break or do you want to take over Mr

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chair and get the vice chair elected
unless you want to do that to get the

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vice chair and then we can switch both
whatever at the same time on you once

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you to get that done then then we'll
switch around okay uh nominations are

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now open for vice
chair all nominate John

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Fe any other
nominations John F been nominated any

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other
nominations fated for the third time any

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other
nominations hearing no no other

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nominations all in favor of John F as
Vice chairman say I I I pose I uh motion

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is successful welcome congratulations Mr
F uh with that we'll take a two minute

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break
to switch anything you wanted to switch

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very good you switch
shares at

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go thank

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you thanks to

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that's gladly hand that back
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pressure okay with that we will continue
with our morning's business uh item e is

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public comments anybody from the public
like to say a few words to the county

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board on a topic that's not on the
agenda seeing none we'll go on to

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community Community announcements
commissioner Community announcements um

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commissioner
P thank you Mr chair uh just a couple

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items
the Historical Society if you've been

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looking for a new reason to stop by the
Cara County Historical Society here's

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one they are hosting the Minnesota home
front World War II exhibit which is on

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load from the Minnesota Historical
Society

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come on in and take a look at what the
home front here in Minnesota was like

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while the country was at war in 19 in
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1940s the Museum's located at 555 West
First Street in wakona

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and the hours are 9 to 4:30 Monday
through Friday and 9 to2 on

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Saturdays also the car County Library uh
they're jumping right into

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2024 with something for our teens
they're offering a scholarship essay

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workshop on Saturday January 6 this will
be an online class from 10:30 to noon

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and will be taught by The Loft students
will prepare to write their college

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scholarship application essays by
exploring their personal narrative and

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how to tell their story in a compelling
way additional details can be found at

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www.car caror live.org
and um want to wish all the staff and

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everyone at Carver County happy New Year
any other public announcements commun

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announcements Mr chair commissioner I
myself on uh given my reasons for my

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vote so I use a few minutes to talk
about that now uh on the nomination

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process the last three years and you'll
see it also in the um packet for today

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for proposed agenda an announcements
you're see an increased movement of

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other County boards um other City
councils other townships to move towards

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a rotation process to take the politics
out of who's going to hold the Gabel to

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create Clarity for staff so you can
anticipate the future so in the course

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of the last 20 two years now um one
commissioner district has been notably

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uh uh absent from holding the gavel I
think everybody who dly elected should

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have the same burden and benefit of
holding that gavel I also think that six

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out of the last nine years years the
vice president has moved to the chair

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creating again a chance for the staff to
know who's going to be the leader and

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hold that gabble throughout the course
of the year so for those reasons I did

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not vote for the nomination because Tom
should have moved into the chair role

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and then either District Four or
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vice chair role to be here for
2025 other announcements that I had over

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the course of the holiday I had a chance
to be out in about in a number of our

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buildings and talk to a lot of our staff
had a see chance to see the new Paradise

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Commons building at Lake ponia it looks
beautiful signage is up um that's been

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quite an Endeavor not only for the
acquisition of that property over the

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course of 20 some years but also the
development of it and Marty and his team

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have led that I'm perfect at times but
um it's a beautiful building and I hope

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our community gets great use out of that
had a chance to go to the First Street

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Center that sometimes we forget about
it's our mental health facility and I

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know that that's on the horizon for when
it comes to space planning but um that

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business that building was active out of
necessity around the holidays and uh

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pardon me said say that in this sense
that it's a necessity throughout the

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holidays some of us had the luxury of
stepping away from the office taking

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some time off being with our families um
the instances of mental health and

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mental health challenges um elevates at
this time of year so appreciate the

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staff that were there had a chance to be
at the government center and meet with a

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ton of people the DMVs and the libraries
libraries were packed and the DMV was as

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well and so um Dave and your team thank
you for that um scheduling has been a a

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chance for us to to get more people
through that door um in as much as I

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would have liked that to be an empty
room where people in and out there's a

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high demand because I know that we're
delivering good service there so thank

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you to your teams had a chance to be a
lot of gatherings and I think a lot of

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times we go to a lot of things right we
go to the alliance club we go to the

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legion we go out and about in the
community um but it's what we bring back

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to this boardroom and make an impact of
and the two common themes that I heard

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among all the Gatherings that I was is
number one overall affordability

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including taxes not just um the taxes
that we decide the city taxes Township

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taxes and otherwise and how it's
impacting Our Youth and our Next

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Generation being simply unaffordable for
people to live here and the second theme

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I heard over and over and over and over
and over again was mental health in our

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in our um world um not just from a
perspective of HHS but also from law

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enforcement attorney's office families
Etc it's something that's pling us in so

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many ways our county is the gold
standard when it comes to addressing

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those things um I want to wish Happy New
Year to all the staff um and the people

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that are watching the community and also
wanted to underscore the importance and

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the impact of not for-profit Civic
organizations Faith organizations and

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the Partnerships that we have a number
of those were elevated through this

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holiday um one of that I'll elevate my
daughter and I volunteer every couple

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weeks at the Bountiful Baskets U their
demand is up almost two times from last

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year that doesn't mean that there's two
times more people um that are trying to

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find a a way for free food it means that
there's two times more need in our

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community and so I think it's Our
obligation and opportunity as a board um

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to address those and again in so many
ways we done that with a good standard

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and all those people in the room right
now I've done that I'm looking at

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Heather I'm looking at Sheriff camon I'm
looking at Sarah these are not easy

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things to do and their needs within our
community that will get bigger not

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smaller in the next year so thank you
chair thank you commissioner urman any

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other public announcements this morning
um with that we'll continue on with our

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oh wish everybody a Happy New Year um
and hopefully this next year will be

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even better than the one we've had last
year item number two agenda review and

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adoption chair I move approval with one
exception I had asked A2 to hold from

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consent and move to regular agenda so we
can see that

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presentation we have a motion with the
the switching of

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item what 8.2 to
9.2 any second we have a motion add a

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second motion by commissioner udman
second by commissioner Workman Mr chair

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yes sorry to interrupt but this
clarification we actually have proposed

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amendment change including that and the
addition of of a library board applicant

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CDA applicant and the proposed changes
to the operating rules attorney except

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from the amendment thanks okay we do
have that in front of us um any

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discussion on that
motion all in favor of the motion uh as

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stated say I I I oppose motion carries
item number three 2024 board operating

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rule rules with that I'll turn it over
to administrator hemp thank you Mr chair

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as we ask you to do every year and you
required to by State Statute we have the

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proposed operating rules in your
packet the only changes that I

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proposed are listed on page five of your
packet by the way there are a couple

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page numbers so I'm referring to your
packet page page five of your packet

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where we're clarifying that outside of
the metro area overnight expenses

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associated with conferences are eligible
for reimbursement that's the way we've

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been handling it we just added that
clarification to make sure everybody

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understands that and then on page 11 of
your packet there's a change related to

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the youth Library board appointment to
clarify the timing on the age

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restriction 18 and under which we bumped
into this past year so those are

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relatively simple changes and then again
you should you should have a hand out in

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front of you and that was
distributed proposing other changes that

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those proposed changes were made by
commissioner wman so I'll stand for

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questions any questions for
administrative he on proposed

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changes if not um is there we can either
take it the mo have a motion for the

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whole uh accepting the whole operating
rule or we can um talk about each

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section by

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themselves what's the wishes of the
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point I think there excuse Mr the
relatively minor changes I would move

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approval okay we have a motion by
commissioner Lynch is there a

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second go ahead just for discussion
we're well we should have a second

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before we have

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discussion I I second including the um
proposed changes that were

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presented okay we have a motion and
second to approve the operating rules as

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for presented by m administrator hamy
now discussion commissioner F yeah I I

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just wanted to make that clarification
it's not what's on the agenda propos

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agenda amendments that are in front of
us we talking about what's in our

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back I believe that's correct because
those are coming up at

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9.2 my second uh was to include the
items that were number three um and pull

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them in in totality for the board
operating if that wasn't your intent Tim

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then I
withdraw so I will second Mr Lynch

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motion okay we have a motion made and
second I there discussion on the

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proposed operating rules as presented by
administrator hem Mr ch just seek a

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Clarity um if if these were to be passed
as proposed and seconded um would these

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be on the table as well they would not
uh Mr chair commissioner they would not

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if you want them on the table that would
be an amendment to the main motion you

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can do that in a few ways one would be
to just propose the whole list of

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changes or you could
propose one at a time or a couple at a

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time but U the key is that you're amend
you're proposing to amend that main

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motion
so I'll use a few minutes to explain

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these um they shouldn't come as any
surprise because them multiple times um

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in E under officers I'm proposing to
take the politics out of the rotation

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for officers I give the staff ability to
plan ahead see a natural rotation that's

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predictable and and some points that
were made in our last board meeting

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quest for transparency um the full full
uh context can be shared there under G

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monthly expense allowance um again it
was brought up in a previous meeting

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about prudent use of taxpayer dollars
and transparency at that time we

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Revisited a um policy that was
established before my agenting the board

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in 2008 where every commissioner was uh
granted $4,000 of expense on a yearly

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basis and if they put those items on the
agenda um in the beginning of the year

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we didn't have to drag those throughs on
an individual basis that also applied to

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any other elected office U and their
ability to put those items down that

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item passed um but what did not pass and
was not accepted um was the transparency

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of the monthly allowance that we use or
each issued a monthly allowance um to be

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used out of leisure The Proposal says
each commissioner shall be allocated an

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annual conference and training budget
with an amount to be determined

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according to the annual budget process
conference and training funds not used

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by an individual commissioner during
each respective budgetary year will be

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returned to the general fund at current
There's an opportunity if for instance I

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didn't use mine I could offer it to Tim
if he was using double the amount and so

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that's my my proposed amendment another
language is uh current um we each get a

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stien for our cell phone a number of
board members utilize uh additional

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dollars above and beyond our stien for
printer cartridges and other expenses my

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proposal says cell phone expenses
printer cartridges along with any

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expense $50 or less are not eligible for
reimbursement and can be paid for out of

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that monthly allowance next item is
broadcasting it's come to my attention

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that there's a growing number of cities
townships and counties that are using a

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best practice that gives um board work
sessions the ability to be observed um

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from people that don't have an ability
to get get to the boardroom um and can

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be seen and so my language on that one
is all regular meetings of the Carver

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County Board of Commissioners are
streamed live and recorded for on demand

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viewing via YouTube All Work sessions
are streamed live with the option to

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join remotely I'm calling to order to
the meeting and to the adjournment of

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the meeting's regular session again a
best practice it's seen by a lot of

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others next up is preparation and
distribution I think we talked about

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this on a couple of occasion my proposed
languages the County Administrator shall

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include an item on the proposed agenda
at least three days prior to the meeting

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for which the agenda is to be prepared
any person for any reason at any time

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may move any consent item to the agenda
and then a duly elected official may add

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any agenda item that may have material
impact or requested by the district or

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uh County stakeholders at current I
believe we're only the only city

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Township or county that doesn't allow
anybody to pull anything off consent and

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needs a first a second and a majority
vote I believe that that flies in the

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face of a representative
democracy um and then finally if we move

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down uh to the last item which is uh
proposed uh to move ahead the board

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packet you know sometimes we talked
about um transparency we also talked

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about uh being able to have a chance to
adequately review couple times during

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the course of the year that wasn't the
case for reasons that were Beyond us um

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but what I'm proposing is the board
agenda packet including meeting agenda

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and supporting materials shall be
received digitally by each member of the

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board no later than Friday preceding the
regular Tuesday meeting I think far too

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often we receive some items on Monday or
Tuesday that could have been received on

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Friday with adequate time to digest so I
will ask that a friendly Amendment be

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inclusive of these things that were uh
put the taxpayer first Le transparency

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they're predictable give us a chance to
plan ahead and give some certainty for

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our

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staff is there a motion that is a motion
um to accept all those after a unit

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excuse me we have a motion and a second
to accept those as a unit any more

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discussion on the now discussion on the
amendment yeah I guess I'm confused

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because there was a motion second on the
floor then there's another motion second

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do we have two on the floor I thought a
Bard Opera rules am if I understand

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commissioner urman is amending the
original motion oh okay I do not wish to

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accept the
amendment you wish to come in this

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no I at this point uh we have a second
to the amendment so now we're having

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discussion on the amendment the amended
motion and your point is you

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would uh commissioner uh Lynch what are
you saying on original motion maker I do

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not accept the amendment I believe these
are unnecessary we've operated without

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these uh rules yeah but at this point
commissioner Lynch uh you don't have to

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accept oh okay yeah it's we're going to
vote on the proposed

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amendment and
it's any other discussion on the

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proposed
amendment all I can say is there's a lot

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of these items that are listed there
some that have um more in my mind

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legitimacy than others but as a whole
unit um I can't support the whole unit

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being passed at that point any other
discussion on the proposed amendment

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seeing then all in favor of the proposed
amendment say I I I oppose I I motion

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fails the amendment fails uh on a two to
three vote now we're back to discussion

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on the original amend the original
proposed

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um moot main motion thank you
motion any more discussion on the propos

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uh the main
motion seeing none all in favor of the M

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motion say I I I oppose I I motion
carries 3 to two with that we have the

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operating rules in
order item number four then moving on

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the agenda is the adopt the schedule of
the regular meetings for

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Mr I'll give administrator not much
explanation needed we do this every year

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we did our best to try and match last
year of course we as we move through the

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year uh there there are typically
changes adjustments we can add move

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around as you
desire uh but it's nice to have the

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meetings on the schedule if we're pretty
sure we're going to hold them all so I

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again Following last year's pattern is
basically what we have in front of you

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for consideration any questions for Mr
administrator hamy Mr chair

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administrator one question I know that
there was movement on the first week in

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November last year do we need to move
that this year to the 12th or should we

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keep it on November
5th

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hon hesitating
because no uh Mr Shar that was uh in

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part around deer hunting and that was
that's been done for a number of years

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but you're hunting this in 2024 November
12 thank you one that I personally

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checked thank
you any other questions for

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administrator hamy not is there a motion
to motion by second motion by

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commissioner Workman second by
commissioner FY to adopt the meeting

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schedule for 2024 as presented any
discussion all in favor of the motion

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say I oppos motion carried

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frog my

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thr okay item number six on the agenda
committee appointments and

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assignments you have the list of
committees in front of

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you we can go through
them individually

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uh might make the easiest uh Association
Minnesota County board of directors I'll

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stay as the point e commissioner fee I'm
okay with that sir that's alterate AMC

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environmental national resources
commissioner

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Lynch sure list I'll see with the
general government uh Health and Human

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Services that's fine for everyone okay
uh Public Safety that's fine Mr Workman

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Transportation uh AMC voting delegates
uh we're all listed there along with um

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Mr Hemy Lyndon rajant and Heather
Goodwin AMC Metropolitan governance tax

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Force kitchen cabinet I'm unable to
attend that meeting okay is there an

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alternate that or somebody else would
like to take commissioner Workman spot

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on that kitchen cabinet
do you commissioner Workman can you tell

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us when those meetings probably would be
meeting right now about every week at 3

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o' what day any other day of the
week uh let me check Mr chair I'm I I've

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been participating in those by the way
and I will continue to do that and they

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will be wrapping up once the task for I
think once the task for once the main I

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what the call the the main panel makes
our recommendations to the

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legislature double checks if I
have remind everybody M commissioner

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Workman what the the kitchen cabinet
what their main goal

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was uh this this was an expanded group
uh to create input into the legislative

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request to review the Metropolitan
governance uh

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they I think AMC appointed Bingham from
Washington County if I'm correct so this

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so this group the intent of this group
was to have a voice by the remaining

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Metropolitan counties to in particular
bangham as she is it bigam as she uh

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provides direct input into the into the
main group making recommendations to the

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legislature so I think it is important
to have uh for me to have some

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assistance from a board although you
don't need to participate in every one

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of these but other Commissioners are
attending anybody showing interest uh Mr

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chair I do see at least one meeting
January

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22nd it's a Monday at two
o'clock I think they time had

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mentioned
weekly there's yeah there's one on J

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Monday January 8th at 2 o'cl so it looks
like Monday's at two weekly at least for

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the next month or

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two to get ready for the legislative
session to provide input uh into the the

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main individual from Washington
count anybody have an interested joining

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that group at Mondays sounds like 2

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o'clock these are remote meetings

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also if not we'll leave that one open
for now

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yeah Mr chair what I would do then is I
prer back to who's ever on the

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legislative committee or for guidance if
needed we'll see where that that group

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ends up they're getting into some pretty
uh they're getting the weeds some the

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issu so I I feel like I'm venturing a
little far sometimes so I'll I'll Circle

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back to the legislative committee if we
don't have an appointment there sounds

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good um that board of directors I'll
stay on that commissioner udman you want

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to be alterate that's fine um Arts
committee order R and Workman that's

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fine okay uh CDA Fe you know before we
do that one yes Mr chair um this is such

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an important board and and I know that
we're in a state of flux for a lot of

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reasons and it's probably the most
dynamic decade if CDA is not only

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because of the dollars and the things
that have been approved um but also the

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the future need that's here and I just
did a quick look um our lays on in the

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last half of the year um did not attend
half of the meetings for that CDA I

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think we deserve better there so I'd be
happy to step up and be that role for

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the CDA this

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year Well commissioner F you were on
there um you want to give that up or you

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want to stay on the CDA at this point I
would like to stay on it um Mr chair and

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yeah just unfortunate with the schedule
and other meetings that took place

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definitely do enjoy the the CDA

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and um with your long history on the CDA
and you're right uh CDA is going through

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some
obviously uh important times in the for

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the county uh we'll point point we'll
keep

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um we'll point fahe to that and keep
udman commissioner udman as alternate at

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this point Mr chair I just ask I think
it's just inferred and assumed but

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professional courtesy to let me know if
you're aable to attend JP thank you that

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is correct if if the man person man
commissioner is unable to for whatever

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reason uh that's why we do have
alternates and uh we should utilize them

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that's for sure and also Mr chair if
there is any other board member that's

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interested in being the alternate for
the seat da if uh I would be open

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for any individuals that would like to
do that okay thank you I will keep that

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on the list uh CDA has always been
obviously an

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important issue for the county Mr shair
just a point of clarification this is a

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required vote for these appointments and
you typically do that as a

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slate if there is disagreement I would
suggest removing any any individual

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items and that would require a motion
second and and majority vote okay let's

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vote as a slate but at this point I'll
make a motion that we appoint

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commissioner fahe as our representative
and commissioner udman as our alternate

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and uh myself as an
alternate uh second alternate a second

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alternate at this point is there a
second to that

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motion second uh motion made second any
any more discussion on

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that if not all in favor of appointing
commissioner fahe as the uh designated

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and Alternate would be commissioner
udman and I'll be a second Al alternate

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myself uh all in favor of that motion
say I I

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oppose motion carries uh with one person
voting against two I think commission

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okay two
against pass three to two then Carver

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County leaders

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uh County leaders we run and Lynch that
Western leaders us the the entire County

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Mr chair and you know by the way on that
one I'll be asking the group if they

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want to continue they seem to be
languishing a little bit for Kant

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struggling for topics so that will be
and ni Nick's helping me with that we

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we'll discuss that with that group we
have a meeting in January Nick we do

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okay first January meeting so it might
it might go away it might not spending

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on the interest well if if it stays
around commissioner udman and

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commissioner Lynch you both still want
to be on there sure thank you it's

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usually posted too because there's I
think everyone has attended it it does

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in the past right yeah um Community
leaders Eastern and that's um myself

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Comm uran commissioner Workman and
commissioner Fe everybody still want to

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be on
y keep

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that
court I

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don't courts
committee have and myself alterate Mr

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Lynch well thank you very
much we continue sure thank

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you strategic National stockpile I'll
continue on that Mr Hemy and Mr Scott

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Richard
Scott um

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fairboard Lynch is our leaon
alternate I'm okay with that if somebody

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has something else to speak up don't let
me go on without uh greater MSP

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commissioner udman that's
fine uh greater MSP partner advisory

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Council we're just going with Mr
Swanson

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okay hearing none we'll go on with that
hman County Workforce task force uh

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commissioner urman is IR is on Alternate
commissioner

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Workman um I'm not going to be able to
make those either okay was

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uh before we choose another alternate is
what's the date on that commissioner

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urman do you I'm looking at Heather
because Kate Keeps Us honest on that one

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excuse me we meet the last week of the
month Tuesday Mornings 8

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a.m. then there's uh i h t in
Bloomington too when they have their

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henip and Carver
meetings I can't think

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ofly they of on if you want to put me
down as an alternate commissioner W and

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I take it sure there 99% of the time yep
okay so I'll fill in

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alternate okay Historical Society
commissioner workr alternate

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commissioner fa okay uh health
insurance LMC myself and udman as an

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alternate we'll continue in that
rooll ditches our favorite subject

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ditches anybody want to change ditches
if not we'll keep it just the way it's

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listed right now okay with that Mr chair
okay okay I see nobody else's head

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moving so we'll keep the ditches as
listed Law Library I'll continue on

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that
uh legislative committee commissioner

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fahe and Workman and Comm udman as an
alternate Mr chairman I'm going to step

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back from that committee
also

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okay than Pro to have the all move up
I'd be happy to do that okay and I'll

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sit in as the unless commissioner Lynch
wants to be an alternative oh you can

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you can sir Mr

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chair and we'll appoint commissioner
udman as

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the M
person okay along with the commissioner

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P I should say la Library commission
urman is our leison H I said Library

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board not law library library board y
That's yeah lower Minnesota urman and

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myself okay we'll continue that mcit
voting minator Hemy and

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Sonia okay Mela commissioner udman
that's fine okay makes sense mental

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health advisory committee commissioner
Lynch with udman that's

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alternate okay uh y
mesp I'll stay there along with

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commissioner

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fee uh executive board I'll take that
and fath about

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alternate
okay emergency service

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radio Susan will continue to be that I
figure with de as our alternate yes Mr

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chair Dian has reached out to the
individual 911

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same

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group Micah M
Workman yeah Mr jman I'm not able to I'm

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usually not able to make those meetings
so I'll step down from

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that uh that it's okay we have both the
appointee and the second person actually

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is two openings
there anybody can make that meeting when

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is it that's about middle of the
afternoon uh one one

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o' and it's usually held down
at that behind the

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capital anybody make that work in their
schedule if not we'll leave that open

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for right now let everybody think about
that one

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also uh many haa Creek
Watershed commissioner Workman and

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Alternate commissioner udman okay
extension I'll stay on that commissioner

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Lynch yep there um Minnesota real Valley
Regional Rail commissioner Workman with

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Fe alternate Mr chairman I am no longer
able to make that

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meeting okay uh commissioner F you want
to step up to

429
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:36,560
the when are those meetings held Tom uh
monthly 3D Wednesday 8:30 in the

430
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:36,560
morning and those are all

431
00:37:36,839 --> 00:37:40,319
I gr

432
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:54,359
Falls and as we're looking will you take
it I will take it how about an alternate

433
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:59,960
anybody want to be an alternate for that
railroad let's keep that alter turn it

434
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:08,000
open so we can think about
that Mobility smart

435
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,760
link yes uh mosquito control I'll stay
on that commission Workman uh Mr

436
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,760
chairman I'm no longer to attend those
meetings

437
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,599
able okay we need an alternate or a
second person

438
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:31,880
there uh remind everybody commissioner
Workman what day they

439
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:40,119
are fourth
Wednesday 9:15 9 that is correct and

440
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:49,200
actually our first meeting is this the
fourth 15 control I'll stay on um to the

441
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,200
same place as

442
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,520
mesb we need a second person if
anybody's

443
00:38:55,359 --> 00:39:04,560
available uh uh Park
commission Lynch Blaze on Al Alterna be

444
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:12,800
uh
udman okay it's

445
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:16,960
fine Planning Commission F
Lynch Mr chair I just want to bring it

446
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:22,359
to the attention of the people that the
back half of

447
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,560
2023 our lay on missed 60% of the
meetings are we sure that that's the

448
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:28,440
individual that we want representing us
on the Planning Commission

449
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:42,920
at this point we'll leave it that
way uh but let's make sure that uh we

450
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:48,240
have the communication out there that um
somebody can fill in if the regular

451
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:52,240
person is gone I mean these are
important things commissioner dler I

452
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:57,040
agree I mean economic development is
tied to that um we've been reminded many

453
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:01,560
times that it's largely a function of
the rural community and it just it just

454
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,599
seems like 60% of the time we're missing
our meetings are we really at service of

455
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,000
the people I just have to ask that I I
don't know that I could support um I

456
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,280
don't know if I could support the
current

457
00:40:11,319 --> 00:40:19,520
appointment and since I'm excuse me Mr
chair since I'm the chair or the liais

458
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:25,319
on to that committee and there again
with various conflicts with the

459
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:32,440
scheduling just with the knowledge base
and I bring to that board and just to be

460
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:38,560
able to work with the staff in a very
positive way and I I don't think it

461
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:46,520
would be very helpful with uh the disrup
disruption that take would take place

462
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:50,400
if okay at this point the appointment is
commissioner FEI and alternative

463
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:55,800
commissioner Lynch Mr chair it's not
just a lay on it's the only um sizable

464
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,960
board that it's a voting member so it
really puts our our staff at a

465
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:03,720
disadvantage when we're looking for a
quorum or a number of votes so um I I'd

466
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:09,000
like to take that one to a vote if you
don't mind okay

467
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:13,440
um do we have a motion I'll make the
motion to appoint commissioner fahe with

468
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:21,119
alternate commissioner Lynch is there a
second second any

469
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:31,079
discussion uh all in favor of the motion
uh say I I I oppose I I motion carries

470
00:41:26,839 --> 00:41:36,920
on a three to2 vote uh the point made on
all of these we've uh gone through a

471
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:41,440
bunch of the Committees that um yeah
it's important that people um if you're

472
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,720
appointed to the committee show up to
the committee and I think maybe that's

473
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:53,599
something we should probably put on our
regular agenda we've had it in the past

474
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:58,240
years that we have um basically reports
towards the end of our meeting and what

475
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:03,359
committees we've been able to attend
what committees uh and what some of the

476
00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:09,800
major work that these committees have
done um it's something that has was

477
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:16,319
actually taken off our agenda a number
of years ago because for a lack of time

478
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:20,200
or lack of whatever uh we just didn't
get to the reports but I think we all

479
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:26,880
have
um Diane put that back on so that we all

480
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:31,760
when we go to our regular me meetings
that we can report back some of the

481
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:37,200
things that are going on at these
committees because uh commissioner udman

482
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:43,800
is very correct on pointing out many
times uh Carver County in a lot of

483
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:50,040
meetings I'm ask the same thing hey
where is your other appointees to not

484
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:56,440
only the committee that I have to be
sitting on but at some of these other uh

485
00:42:52,720 --> 00:43:05,480
board meetings and uh it is important uh
we were um and we should be continuing

486
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:10,119
to go uh our work isn't just today it's
our work is um out of these committee

487
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:15,800
meetings that we
attend um with that Mr

488
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:21,079
chair agree it's important but uh you do
have an

489
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:25,000
agenda the format listed in your
operating roles so if you go back to

490
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,000
page 10 of your

491
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:32,960
packet item Item
B the board wants to formally change

492
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:40,280
that that was formally changed well it's
been quite a while I don't remember 10

493
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:46,119
plus you see the the format okay so my
suggestion of putting reports at the end

494
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:51,680
of the meeting um since we already
approved the order we don't have to

495
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:57,200
officially do it uh doesn't have to be
part of the

496
00:43:53,200 --> 00:44:02,599
agenda printed but I think we'll have to
um just as

497
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:10,000
a as a
time place saver that a person reports

498
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:15,160
back as to something but good point that
we already approved the order our

499
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:19,680
operating rules so we won't change it
this year thank you for the bir yep

500
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:26,480
thank
you um we were at

501
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:32,079
the regional hauling licens board
commissioner Workman alternate

502
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Lynch okay we're still okay with that
Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Workman

503
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:44,359
dler on okay good there um Southwest
Corridor Transportation Coalition

504
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:52,160
Workman and
F okay

505
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:59,079
okay now and dler as the alter yes um
steeve CHS advisory committee Mr Scott

506
00:44:56,319 --> 00:45:07,079
and Alternate
F uh Transportation Advisory Board the

507
00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:11,640
tab M Workman I'm no longer able to make
those

508
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:18,000
okay
um you were the alternate want

509
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:21,440
to unless someone else would anybody
else want to be on the

510
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:30,359
tab this point will leave that
we'll leave it open for this

511
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:38,920
week and then we'll go on from there
water management organization

512
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,839
commissioner Lynch and commissioner
F okay y Mr chair uh clarification

513
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:50,800
backing up on the tab
so uh Mr Fay did you agree to be the the

514
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:56,680
main appointment or you want to hold
that I'll uh we'll see if anyone else

515
00:45:53,559 --> 00:46:01,000
wants to step up I'll still continue to
be the alternate okay so at this time

516
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:05,000
the appointment's open okay thank you
the appointment's open but the alternate

517
00:46:02,839 --> 00:46:10,119
is commissioner Fe
unless that would change we'll put the

518
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:16,160
open items back on the agenda as we did
you to reconsider it

519
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:22,920
correct uh with those
verbal appointments is there a

520
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:27,520
motion to accept all the appointments as
we just discussed vot motion

521
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:34,079
is there a
second second byman any discussion I

522
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,720
just clarify so the CDA and Planning
Commission have already been approved

523
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:43,960
sir you're proving the remaining slate
as discussed correct okay thank

524
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:51,640
you any other discussion all in favor of
the motion say I I oppose motion

525
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:58,440
carries with that we're moving on to
item six appointment to the advisory

526
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,440
committees we have

527
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:06,000
a did I hear something
okay uh with that we have the advisory

528
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:13,559
committees in front of us we'll take
them in order that's there we have a few

529
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:18,280
additional um applicants that might not
be listed Arts committee we have one

530
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:24,319
vacancy at
large we have one applicant Comm urman

531
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:30,160
that's your district is that yeah
Megan's did a nice job i' move her be on

532
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:36,040
our commit okay see motion made in
second all in favor of the motion say I

533
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,040
I po

534
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:50,480
okay there's two Megan the Megan Meg
white can good catch thank

535
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:55,760
you um CDA we have one vacancy with at
least three

536
00:47:52,400 --> 00:48:00,599
applicants actually there's a uh there's
or I'd like to make the motion for Troy

537
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:18,319
Williams um any
other um any other nominations for that

538
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:25,720
if not uh is there a second to Troy I'll
second it Mr chair discussion quality

539
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:30,760
applicants I see Mr jer's on there I see
tro Williams jro Daryl's been serving

540
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:36,960
there for a long time also on spirited
transparency um my appointment to

541
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:41,400
District 3 Molly Kaki uh uh submitted
her letter letter of resignation uh as

542
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,160
of yesterday effect of the 1 of January
it's been shared with our administrator

543
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:49,119
there's some copies too if you want to
see that I intend to hold that position

544
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:53,520
open until February not only to look at
the climate of where we're at with the

545
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:58,079
CDA and make the best appointment um but
also to give time to uh Harvest some

546
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:02,640
candidates that we need um to serve on
this in a balanced board okay let it be

547
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:10,960
noted that there is another opening on
the CDA it is in District 3 uh just if

548
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:17,440
anybody's watching it they might have an
interest hold that position open for now

549
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:23,640
Mr chair uh commissioner F I would be uh
in favor of making a motion

550
00:49:20,359 --> 00:49:28,720
to accept the application from J Ro and
also Troy Williams to fill the CDA

551
00:49:28,839 --> 00:49:36,880
board okay there second to that
motion Mr chair I think you already have

552
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:42,920
a did you get a motion in a second for
Troy yes we so we should more on that up

553
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:49,839
there okay I'm sorry any more discussion
on TR

554
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:58,559
Williams if not all in favor say I I I
oppose motion carries TR will be and now

555
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:04,480
um Mr chair I'll make a motion to
uh fill in the application J root to

556
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:08,359
serve on the CDA board for district
three Mr chair I'll support that but I

557
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:12,319
also want to know that it's somewhat
unconventional for somebody to go

558
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:16,280
outside a district um it seems to be
something that commissioner FY has done

559
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,400
regularly in my time on the board anyway
and I think the professional courtesy is

560
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:24,319
is that if it's your District um you you
lead that appointment so I

561
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:28,119
enthusiastically support J row to the
CDA I think it's more prudent that we

562
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,920
hold off in the current C circumstances
until February but I'm not going to hold

563
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:36,200
up his
appointment so we have a motion and a

564
00:50:33,319 --> 00:50:36,200
second any other

565
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:46,240
discussion Mr chair was that a second
Comm yes thank you um any other

566
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:52,240
discussion seeing none all in favor of
appointing uh Mr J row to the CDA say I

567
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,960
I
iose motion

568
00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:03,799
carries Library
board we have three current vacancies

569
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:09,440
four five and one youth at large Mr Sher
Richard Lynch like to point Daniel

570
00:51:06,839 --> 00:51:12,240
McDonald a second that's a amazing
applicant

571
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:23,960
fantastic okay uh we have a motion made
and seconded to Daniel McDonald any

572
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:29,680
discussion all in favor of that motion
say I I

573
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:33,880
oose motion carries that what position
is commissioner Lynch what position

574
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:40,720
would he fill
four four okay we have five district

575
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:47,440
five and the youth at large any other
nominations also Mr chair I'm currently

576
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:54,359
working on uh talking to sub RS to fill
the District Five Spot for Library board

577
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:59,040
I move approval at Tenley for that large
student

578
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:05,440
tenle rutage for the large okay we have
a motion for tenle rutage I'll second

579
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:12,640
that any discussion on that motion all
in favor of the motion to appoint Tinley

580
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:17,839
at say I I oppose motion carries and we
have one District 5 applicant that will

581
00:52:16,359 --> 00:52:23,680
hold over
till uh future meeting mental health

582
00:52:21,319 --> 00:52:28,799
advisory committees we have can have up
to 14 members nine which are mandated we

583
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:36,839
have a number of applicants anybody want
to make a motion to approve any of those

584
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:41,200
applicat Mr chair I'll make a motion to
accept Sandy and also Stacy I did talk

585
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:46,400
to
Stacy in November of last year and she

586
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,440
is
a very active member in that committee

587
00:52:49,319 --> 00:52:58,520
and wants to continue to serve motion by
commissioner fahe to accept uh both

588
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Sandra and Stacy zelman second second by
commissioner udman any discussion all in

589
00:53:01,319 --> 00:53:09,640
favor of the motion say I iose motion
carries we have a couple new more

590
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:15,359
members or new
members on that committee extension

591
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:22,000
committee we
have uh vacancies in district one four

592
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,240
and a youth
appointment um Mr chair I'd like to

593
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:34,280
place some n nomation for District 4
Carmen Ginger okay second any discussion

594
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:39,599
on Carmen all in favor of the motion say
I I

595
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:45,400
oppos I'd like to hold open the district
one at this point but there's another

596
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:51,599
applicant for for the Youth
appointment Mr chair I'll make a motion

597
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:55,799
to accept uh
Lisa won't be able to pronounce her last

598
00:53:54,119 --> 00:54:01,160
name to the youth
second and with comment um we had uh um

599
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:05,119
Michaela Johnson served that role I
think it was one of the first if not the

600
00:54:02,839 --> 00:54:10,119
first um youth appointment and she
brought such a plethora of uh knowledge

601
00:54:07,799 --> 00:54:15,280
she uh is a full ride scholarship um
person in uh very intense engineering

602
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:20,040
school in Indiana and I had a chance to
connect with her family over the holiday

603
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:24,480
break and she continues to bring value
to our um Community she's exploring how

604
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,960
they can take stem from their
engineering school school and put it

605
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:31,240
into our libraries and serve our
community even in their time um going to

606
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:36,119
school in Indiana so what an important
um place for youth appointment and I

607
00:54:33,319 --> 00:54:39,559
think Leisa will do a great job any
other discussion I'll just comment that

608
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:44,240
commissioner Lynch and myself both had
the opportunity to serve with that youth

609
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:48,200
appointment and you are absolutely right
she did add to the committee Michaela

610
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:55,079
was
incredible any other discussion all in

611
00:54:51,319 --> 00:54:59,880
favor of the appointment uh to the
extension Committee of the youth

612
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:04,839
appointment say I I oppose motion
carries Park commission two vacancies

613
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:10,880
one and
five um I'll hold open number one for at

614
00:55:08,319 --> 00:55:17,240
least another month
um District Five you have an appointment

615
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:24,280
yes Mr chair I'd like to uh appoint Mr
Knight to continue on the Park Board he

616
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:29,680
is a very good addition to the board and
Kellen Schmidt who has also

617
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:33,960
applied if you're looking for an
individual to represent district one

618
00:55:32,359 --> 00:55:39,039
Kellen has been on the board of
adjustment for the county in the past is

619
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:45,559
would be a very good candidate I'll hold
it open for one more meeting if not I

620
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:52,319
we'll go back to Kell thank you uh all
in favor of the motion of appointing Mr

621
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:57,000
Knight to the committee to say I I oppos
motion curious Board of personnel

622
00:55:57,799 --> 00:56:05,160
appeals applicant Connie long from
district one I'll move that she

623
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:11,920
be uh
reappointed say all in is there second

624
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:18,280
second any discussion all in favor of
that motion say I I OPP motion carries

625
00:56:16,839 --> 00:56:25,839
planing
commission vacancies in district one and

626
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:30,440
four I'll move Greg for that's
C thank you thank you and I'd like to

627
00:56:27,799 --> 00:56:35,839
move Scott Wakefield one
motion uh there motion made in seconded

628
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:41,440
any discussion all in favor of pointing
Greg and Scott back to the board say I I

629
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:48,559
I oose motion
carries uh water management

630
00:56:44,359 --> 00:56:52,640
organization have two vacancies four and
grow

631
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:58,480
River if we could Mr chair we have two
excellent candidates one Mike Lynch and

632
00:56:54,599 --> 00:57:05,200
the Lake wigner um Mr wigner would take
over the Crow River wed okay he's a

633
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:10,680
Class A water tech Mr Lynch isn't too
bad either so uh that was a motion I'll

634
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:16,880
second that any
discussion all in favor of the motion

635
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:22,880
say I I I oppos motion
carries uh that should complete the

636
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,400
appointments to The Advisory committees
Tim you were pretty busy got some great

637
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:29,400
C
District Four huh thank you sir yeah it

638
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:35,720
really
did uh item number five approve the

639
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:39,319
minutes of the December 19th 2023
regular

640
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:43,760
session there a motion to approve the
minutes so move Mr chairman second

641
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,119
motion made by commissioner Lynch second
by commissioner Workman to approve the

642
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:53,440
minutes any
discussion all in favor without motion

643
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:59,160
say I I oppose motion
carries the consent agenda before us we

644
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:10,559
have 12 actually subtract one of them 11
items on there could we

645
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,559
moved the one

646
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:19,880
8.5 move that
one8

647
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:25,680
82 we move that toight so any is there a
motion to approve the consent agenda as

648
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:31,520
presented as a whole
second with comment um I just wanted to

649
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:35,240
point out 8.9 shrams Winery AGR tourism
and the wine scene that we have here in

650
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,839
Carver County is Coveted by many and
their expansion is just phenomenal um

651
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:43,359
the number of people that they serve and
are able to Showcase destination Carver

652
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:47,680
County is amazing so I second that's a
motion and a second with commissioner

653
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:51,440
and commissioner udman you need
discussion on the

654
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:55,280
consent any more discussion I should
have said uh all in favor of the motion

655
00:58:53,720 --> 00:59:04,640
say I
oppos motion carries that it brings us

656
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:11,359
to 9.1 agency issued and guns at this
point uh Sheriff camon I think you're

657
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:15,640
gonna take that take it away Sheriff Mr
chair members of the board thank you for

658
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:20,440
having me today and giving me a few
minutes to talk about this I think that

659
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:28,480
the uh the board action narrative that's
in your packet sufficiently outlines

660
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:34,400
what uh what I intend to do and and uh
the rationale for it um but I I do want

661
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:39,359
to provide just a little bit of added
context and and a little bit of backdrop

662
00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:44,079
frame it up for you the decision making
process yeah explain to the public who's

663
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:51,200
listening that have doesn't have the
background information that you provided

664
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:56,640
to us uh what you try to do so there are
in in the law enforcement World there

665
00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:04,119
are typically as a Rel to Firearms
programs there are agency issued

666
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:11,000
Firearms it's really common and employee
owned Firearms is also really comp and

667
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:16,920
so there's really not a right or wrong
way to do it it's just agencies make

668
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:23,240
decisions based on what seems to work
for them larger agencies typically have

669
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:28,799
agency issued Firearms smaller agencies
typically are

670
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:34,839
employee so looking at Carver County
going back to the 90s you might remember

671
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:41,280
in the 80s and earlier cops all carried
revolvers around the late 80s early 90s

672
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:47,559
then semi-automatic kind of became the
norm and and in caror County we had

673
01:00:44,359 --> 01:00:54,319
employee owned revolver semi owns I can
only go back to 1990 because that's when

674
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:57,520
I started I I remember this um and so we
went went with that and we had employees

675
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:04,039
who carried revolvers all through the
90s and Bud Olson was elected sheriff in

676
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:11,880
98 began his term in
1999 and and somewhere around the

677
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:17,760
2000s uh he drove the agency to get out
of the revolvers entirely and every

678
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:23,720
employee uh or deputy sheriff would
carry a sem my auto we did some work

679
01:01:20,359 --> 01:01:27,599
internally and decided would be two
models

680
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:32,559
from each of two manufacturers for a
total of four right Sheriff I hate to

681
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:37,400
interrupt but some people don't know
what's the difference between a revolver

682
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:42,799
and a semi-automatic yeah well I I
appreciate that uh you know um I'm not

683
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:49,160
really sure how to explain it other than
one is a firearm that has a cylinder

684
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:55,319
with bullets in it and as you pull the
trigger the cylinder rotates and

685
01:01:52,200 --> 01:02:00,799
presents the next like you movies like
you would see in the in the Spaghetti

686
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:05,599
Westerns right and a semi-auto it feeds
the bullets from the bottom typically

687
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:09,760
and as the slide comes back it ejects
the spent cartridge it loads a new

688
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:18,559
cartridge and and you fire it it that
way um both basically have the same

689
01:02:14,359 --> 01:02:22,359
function though in so far as uh you know
there's the there's the grip end of it

690
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:26,640
and there's the dangerous end of it and
pull the trigger bullets come out the

691
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:32,799
dangerous that's that's a gross
simplification but to just help with

692
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:38,880
that so so anyways going back um Sheriff
Olson drove bu Olson that is drove the

693
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:46,720
policy to two
manufacturers two calibers of ammunition

694
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:51,880
and um so that that narrowed it down
quite a bit for us and everybody was

695
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:56,880
carrying semi-auto it was also Deputy
owned and well if you for those who work

696
01:02:54,520 --> 01:03:00,640
with bu and he really liked a freezed in
approach to things so he would set

697
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,559
things out and it would take a couple of
years to get to the end game of

698
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:08,160
everybody there but that was Bud's
methodology and it worked and and

699
01:03:08,279 --> 01:03:17,000
uh and so that's how we got to where we
are today with employee owned semi AAS

700
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:23,200
now what happened over the years is
technology Chang manufacturers came out

701
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:27,839
with different products uh employees
started to you know they like this

702
01:03:24,839 --> 01:03:33,599
firearm over that and and frankly
they're all pretty good Firearms it's a

703
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:38,839
Chevy Ford Dodge pickup argument if you
ask me they're they're all pretty good

704
01:03:35,799 --> 01:03:43,279
today and
um

705
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:48,559
we so because that happened and this was
over B Olson and Jim Sheriff Jim wison

706
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,799
we started to add more firearms and add
more and more and more and the deputies

707
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:57,880
were coming every year with oh we want
this and we want and so I made a a

708
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:05,000
policy decision shortly after being
elected that I really just want to

709
01:04:00,839 --> 01:04:13,039
regulate the ammunition because
the that's the part that is the most

710
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:18,520
concerning on the if there's a youth is
the ammunition that actually does the

711
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:24,799
creates the wound cavity and and um
whatnot and it also then ended the

712
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:30,599
argument of should I have a Chevy or
afford or you know pick your brand right

713
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:36,200
and
um it also as we were recruiting one of

714
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:42,079
the things that we hear when we hire new
employees is yeah great come work for us

715
01:04:39,799 --> 01:04:47,680
now you got to go buy this firearm that
they may not already own and so their

716
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:52,079
startup cost to be a new employee is
over

717
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:56,920
,000 give or take depending upon which
make and model they choose

718
01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:02,920
and so that's a that's a little bit of a
a hit when when you're hiring um and so

719
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:07,760
by allowing them to bring in a firearm
they Pro they may very well have already

720
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:14,119
owned um and it opened up options on the
price scale too by adopting that policy

721
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:24,839
U that seemed to be an okay solution at
the time so fast forward so 2022 is uh

722
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:31,880
2023 there there's the one of the more
common popular law enforcement

723
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:38,039
firearms um is currently in litigation
over the firearm

724
01:05:33,799 --> 01:05:43,400
discharging um without operator input
and generally speaking when we H when we

725
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:49,279
see an unintentional discharge we almost
always assume it's operator air and you

726
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:53,160
know the gun doesn't go off unless your
unless your finger or something else

727
01:05:51,079 --> 01:06:01,000
pops the trigger right I mean that's
just the general mechanics of and

728
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:06,760
um and so we left it at them said okay
they'll sort it out if it's a design

729
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:12,119
flaw whatever it'll get sorted up and
then we started seeing videos on

730
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:17,079
YouTube uh where it's this is actually a
pretty good video where a young woman

731
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:23,160
it's a cop in somewhere in the south is
carrying her firearm she asserts

732
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:28,559
bolstered in her Duty bag she's walking
through the the uh police parking lot

733
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:33,520
and the firearm goes off in the back
shoots her in the

734
01:06:29,799 --> 01:06:39,520
pelvis um and it's the security camera
from the police parking lot is how we

735
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:43,680
captured this or how they captured that
well she asserts it's in the holster

736
01:06:42,359 --> 01:06:47,559
everybody else says it couldn't have
been it wouldn't have happened I don't

737
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:53,279
know it's under litigation there's 100
PL DS against the manufacturer so but it

738
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:57,279
but because I saw this video of clearly
I mean you can see she's just carrying a

739
01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:02,039
bag and it goes off so that prompted me
to go all right well now what because I

740
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:07,960
know more than half of our deputies
carry that particular

741
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:14,640
model so I talked to a risk management
who consulted with

742
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:21,960
mcit and mcit being risk averse
says well The Prudent action is to not

743
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:28,480
allow fire okay fair enough now would so
I went to the um

744
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:32,599
employee relations Mr Hemy and uh we
contacted the union because they're

745
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:37,559
employee
owned we went and said look we we have

746
01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:42,760
this problem we're not interested in any
uh unintentional negligent discharges of

747
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:50,079
these Firearms more than half of you
carry them uh and we made an offer to

748
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:54,720
either provide uh early uniform
allowance because uniform allowance is

749
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:59,319
paid in July
we said we would pay in January and you

750
01:07:57,319 --> 01:08:06,559
could use that money to purchase a new
firearm the idea is to get these out of

751
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:12,039
our inventory and sooner than later or
alternatively we offered to provide an

752
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:16,040
interest free loan where you will give
you the money go buy the firearm will

753
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:21,640
withhold whatever the amount is out of
your check to get it paid off in 18

754
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:25,839
months or whatever you agree to uh and
the

755
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:25,839
union um

756
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:36,080
declined I guess is how to say you know
there's uh in in their estimation there

757
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:40,719
is no problem so big that it cannot be
resolved with giving their members more

758
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:47,640
money and I didn't want to just hand
over money to the Union to the

759
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:49,960
membership uh without getting even a a
if you're going to own it we're going to

760
01:08:48,679 --> 01:08:59,120
do it that was going to be a quick easy
S no added cost to the taxpayers

761
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:04,759
and I I looked when they declined that
that prompted me to before I made that

762
01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:10,960
decision really look into it and decide
and and figure out where we were

763
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:17,000
at so what I learned
is uh and you probably won't hear many

764
01:09:13,799 --> 01:09:21,480
elected officials uh make this admission
but the policy decision that I made to

765
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:26,120
regulate ammunition and not makes in
models of

766
01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:30,480
firearms got away from me was probably
not the best decision I ever made and we

767
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:35,000
looked at the numbers of firearms and
what they're carrying and the calibers

768
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:41,920
and what that means for training uh
because now if if uh if I'm the Firearms

769
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:46,679
instructor and and commissioner Workman
is having problems shooting or has a

770
01:09:44,679 --> 01:09:52,120
problem with the firearm now I kind of
have to learn how his firearm functions

771
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:57,000
to help him get through this training
glitch or or whatever and so there's

772
01:09:54,800 --> 01:10:04,120
just some inefficiencies in there that
that I failed to anticipate but

773
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:11,440
um still had the same issue with new
employees uh walking at the startup cost

774
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:18,159
um because whether it's a, firearm or
$500 firearm still come work for us go

775
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:21,840
spend your own money first um also I
have some employees who are proficient

776
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:27,159
Shooters but they're swapping they're in
and out carrying this gun that gun

777
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:34,679
uh periodically throughout the year
and I find that to be a problem

778
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:40,040
so having that's what brings us here
today recognizing that we have an

779
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:46,520
obligation to provide our deputies a
safe reliable firearm program looking to

780
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:52,040
move to agency issued
Firearms um I think what it does is it

781
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:57,960
standardizes the uniform equipment uh
issue sort of thing it standardizes the

782
01:10:55,239 --> 01:11:05,719
ammo purchase we currently buy three
different types of ammunition calibers

783
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:12,280
that is 94045 or the three that we carry
we'll limit that to just one which

784
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:15,840
creates some efficiencies and savings
because we're buy we always buy in bulk

785
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:21,800
but when you buy more of one in the
bigger bulk it's gets a little bit

786
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:29,520
cheaper um standardizes the maintenance
I you know I don't have uh a number that

787
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:33,840
I can put on it but when if we all have
the same

788
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:39,719
firearm I can have one or two employees
who are armors who are able to

789
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:44,440
disassemble repair replace the the
typical parts that break I can do all

790
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:50,440
that really easily inh housee when I
have eight 10 12 different manufacturers

791
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:54,159
having people who are trained and
certified for all of those different

792
01:11:52,159 --> 01:12:01,520
manufacturers gets to be a little bit of
a glitch and um I don't really have an

793
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:08,360
appetite to send them all out for third
party repairs uh Min uh minimize the

794
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:14,080
startup cost for new employees I think
that's a pretty big deal uh retention

795
01:12:10,679 --> 01:12:19,920
for evident evidentiary purposes uh this
sounds silly and hopefully we don't ever

796
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:26,520
have to do this but when an officer
involved is involved in a shooting and

797
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:32,280
this person dies it's ruled a homicide
as a matter of

798
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:36,560
routine we retain all evidence of
homicides

799
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:42,600
forever we don't dispose of
it what I learned in a in a different

800
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:49,159
officer involved shooting was we don't
have the lawful authority to do that

801
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:55,719
with other people's property so the if
the employee

802
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:59,400
says I want my firearm back we have to
give that to them I mean we could

803
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:03,440
litigate it but we're going to lose is I
think is the direction the county if if

804
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:09,800
the last case is an
indicator uh perhaps in a change in the

805
01:13:06,639 --> 01:13:16,320
law we're going to lose that and um I
think it's important to keep to retain

806
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:22,719
that evidence
for

807
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:27,600
uh you know for trials for defending
ourselves civil action but also you know

808
01:13:25,639 --> 01:13:33,159
save it forever in criminal cases
because of the appeals processes and uh

809
01:13:30,679 --> 01:13:37,560
you know the any allegations wrong F
Brit any of those sorts of things so

810
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:47,880
um if we own the Firearms it's ours we
can take and put it on a

811
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:53,440
shelf and so anyways um it eliminates
Arguments for increasing allowances uh

812
01:13:51,000 --> 01:14:00,679
in for uniform allowances to maintain
equipment one of the things we do is as

813
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:05,360
we ask employees to add components like
this we there's a as technology improves

814
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:09,120
there's a sighting system so we call it
a red dot sighting system basically it's

815
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:15,159
a head up heads up display you look
through a loop and it there's a Red Dot

816
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:19,480
in that Loop and once it's cited in
wherever that red dot is is where the

817
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:24,600
bullet is going to go um pretty accurate
it's really fast it improves the

818
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:30,000
shooting accuracy speed in proficiency
so we asked our employees to put that on

819
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:35,920
well we're 500 bucks 300 bucks whatever
they are and of course the employees

820
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:41,280
walk at having to add that even though
they have a generous uniform allowance

821
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:48,560
they even done as argum to increase that
so um and it's a fair argument because

822
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:48,560
it is an expensive thing so

823
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:59,080
anyways all of that combined um I just
think that it it agency you know has to

824
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:05,040
weigh these decisions personal Firearms
agency owned I think the there's no

825
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:12,280
right answer um but it's a judgment call
and in my judgment I think we are best

826
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:18,320
served through agency Firearms now that
was a long way to get to I'm asking for

827
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:24,400
in the board in the the RBA
$992,000 to uh from and it's there's a

828
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:29,719
typo in here it's actually 20 22 year
end savings we don't know what 2023 is

829
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:34,520
yet because we're only the second day
into this year it hasn't been

830
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:39,639
calculated um but I'm asking for the
board to approve the funding from that

831
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:46,000
piece which gives me some budgetary
flexibility in

832
01:15:41,639 --> 01:15:51,080
2024 and with that stand for S questions
for the sheriff Mr CH a couple question

833
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:53,760
CH I learned a lot I guess I'm guessing
the audience did as well I didn't I

834
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:57,639
didn't know a lot of that so thanks for
the history thanks also as a leader that

835
01:15:55,440 --> 01:16:01,760
says I might not got it right and now
you're getting it right that's rare

836
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:07,239
three questions one what happens the old
guns um two um the replacement cost is

837
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:11,280
that something we should budget and plan
for and three if this is typically a

838
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:15,280
bucket that comes out of the uniform are
we able to pull back dollars associated

839
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:19,920
with that because we'll now be
Furnishing the firearm uh three

840
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:26,080
different questions no excellent
question so uh the Firearms currently in

841
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:30,800
play are employee owned and so they
would continue to own them and and they

842
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:37,000
can do whatever they choose with with
those Firearms

843
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:42,040
um this there was one about the pulling
back I I think that you know that's a

844
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:46,520
the the uniform allowance is a
collective bargaining issue um and I

845
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:51,679
think that would be something we would
have to have that that the negotiating T

846
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:55,440
how that's going to shake out uh you
know I don't I don't believe

847
01:16:53,800 --> 01:17:01,560
then the plan for replacement costs and
then the the plan for replacement costs

848
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:08,280
um you know yes we will have to have uh
some of that built in I would anticipate

849
01:17:04,639 --> 01:17:14,360
we would work with uh Mr Hemy and Mr
frisman to build a plan not unlike we do

850
01:17:11,639 --> 01:17:19,760
for radios where we look at what the
what we expect the life expectancy to be

851
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:23,639
and then we just uh squirrel away a
little bit

852
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:27,480
annually to to build that and roll it
year over-ear until we are on the

853
01:17:25,719 --> 01:17:30,920
replacement schedule what is a typical
replacement and my understanding is is a

854
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:35,280
lot of firearms hold their value at
least maybe even increase is there is

855
01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:40,639
there a notion that this is a break even
so the newer models actually cost less

856
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:45,280
than their yeah you know they're um
they're not uh the price of them is not

857
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:50,239
a budget Buster sorts of things they do
hold their value it's all it's a common

858
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:57,760
practice to upon retirement sell the
firearm to the employee who will take it

859
01:17:53,800 --> 01:18:02,480
with them um like badges are another one
that's kind of a common

860
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:09,159
practice um I don't know what the
retention or what the the longevity is I

861
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:15,679
mean they last a long time uh I
mean you know my my dad has all of my

862
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:20,800
granddad's firearms and it's you know
from years and years ago uh I think

863
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:27,040
what's more likely to happen in this
circumstance is um

864
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:32,239
technology um is going to drive that and
so they will likely be cycled out more

865
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,239
so because of

866
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:39,920
changes because of the AG is wearing
Care thank you other questions for the

867
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:46,239
sherff Mr
chair thank you Sheriff definitely very

868
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:50,520
thorough and the information is there um
are the deputies on board with this

869
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:54,120
change you know that's that's hit or
miss and that's a great question Mr Hemy

870
01:18:52,360 --> 01:19:01,159
and I have talked about that quite a bit
because we've worked very hard to uh

871
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:07,560
keep the the work group happy and um you
know we're going to have some employees

872
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:13,639
who are
uh just married to that whatever they

873
01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:20,040
have it's they bought it because they
like it probably and um but I also have

874
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:26,320
some employees who have just flat out
said if I wasn't a cop I wouldn't own a

875
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:35,360
hand income and the only and so they
would be happy to receive it um you know

876
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:42,320
that the policy has not been finalized
yet I think that uh as I look I there's

877
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:47,560
a while there is agency issued and
employee issued there's always the the

878
01:19:44,679 --> 01:19:53,159
hybrid model there are some agencies who
here's the here's the firearm that we

879
01:19:49,360 --> 01:20:01,120
issue if you want your own under policy
here are the approved models

880
01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:06,199
and it would be but then through policy
it's up to you to own it maintain it we

881
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:10,040
assume no responsibility for fixing it
we a spring breaks or the extractor

882
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:16,600
breaks or any of those sorts of things
that's on you and uh you know I haven't

883
01:20:12,719 --> 01:20:23,080
ruled that out yet as a as a policy
decision so we're going to approve the

884
01:20:19,719 --> 01:20:27,679
agency issued handguns and and the polic
is going to come after well you're

885
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:32,199
approving the money uh you you might
recall sir that the the setting

886
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:37,679
Sheriff's Office policy is the sheriff's
responsibility your responsibility

887
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:46,120
relates to the budgeting and so I I'm
looking and what this does is it gives

888
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:53,320
me the flexibility I'm going to do this
um in 2024 what I would like to be able

889
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:57,520
to do is use money from 2022 year and to
do

890
01:20:54,199 --> 01:21:05,199
that thank you any other
questions commissioner Lynch um great

891
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:09,120
great thorough um my my first I think he
answered it already but normally when

892
01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:15,920
someone leaves employment you usually
sell it to the individual or or you just

893
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:20,159
turned it in what what is it uh agencies
we haven't decided what we're going to

894
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:25,760
do yet because we don't do this um some
agencies upon retirement will allow the

895
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:32,120
person to purchase the firearm and take
it with him a three-year employee um

896
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:37,040
would be expected to return the firearm
okay and then to Gail's question about a

897
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:41,120
revolver or semi-automatic and the
sheriff was very accurate it's a

898
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:45,480
cylinder that spins around but there was
a shootout in

899
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:50,880
Florida an FBI shootout and that's why
the revolver is very difficult to reload

900
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:56,280
whereas a semi-automatic uh you slap a
new magazine into it it could SP quick

901
01:21:53,040 --> 01:22:02,400
that's why they switched over to that
um I think JP had a great question but

902
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:05,440
um my only question is do you really
want to go there because you're going to

903
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:12,000
have some push back because when you get
a a cops coming all different sizes

904
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:17,159
people shoot 9 millimeters and 45 and
just get used to what you have um you're

905
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:22,080
not going to be have a happy person
who's a Avid 45 shooter who's going to

906
01:22:19,679 --> 01:22:27,199
have to shoot a 9 millimeter now but
it's it's a your decision sir I would uh

907
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:31,199
I can see the advantages of having
everything all the

908
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:36,960
same yeah I and I appreciate that and
those arguments are not lost on me what

909
01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:41,120
uh what I have found is that those who
are average 45 Shooters and are good at

910
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:49,679
it they're pretty good with 9
millimeters and 40s and 357 and they

911
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:56,120
figure it out right and uh um I look at
you know agency issued firearms are the

912
01:22:53,159 --> 01:23:01,120
norm um with you know let's use the
military they got people all different

913
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:07,719
shapes and sizes and uh and they pull it
off and but you know and that is uh part

914
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:14,360
of the reason I'm looking at the Hybrid
model of policy is because there there

915
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:18,239
will be people who have uh you know
perhaps smaller than you know the

916
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:23,000
Firearms are generally manufactured for
averages right and you might have people

917
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:27,480
smaller than average hands
it just doesn't fit for them so I have

918
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:33,159
to have a workable program for them but
I'm trying to get back get it contained

919
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:41,360
because as I pointed out
earlier it it just it just got away from

920
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:45,560
me when Sheriff uh couple anybody else
have a question if not I'll wrap it up

921
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:53,080
here um when is this policy going to
take effect if we approve this to you

922
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:58,320
yeah well um would you get these well
it's a you know Supply Chain's an issue

923
01:23:55,040 --> 01:24:04,080
right so we'll have to see to get all of
the components um we would have to buy

924
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:11,320
the the firearms and and all the
components that go along with it um and

925
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:16,360
then we have to have a training program
for that so that we can get people

926
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:22,840
trained up to this
firearm um you know it'll it'll take the

927
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:26,960
better part of this year to do that okay
management and is this just the

928
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:32,800
beginning you're talking fire handguns
now uh how about rifles and whatever are

929
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:38,920
their agency issued rifles and stuff
shotguns excellent question and uh we do

930
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:46,639
have
um the fire the handgun is the

931
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:53,400
only defensive weapon that we do not
provide the employee we provide them

932
01:24:49,760 --> 01:25:02,639
with their chemicals their batons the
taser the the rifle uh we just

933
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:09,159
we we provide every other weapon and the
holsters and all that stuff that goes

934
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:11,600
along with it um just not the handgun
and

935
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:19,199
uh you know I can't speak to to how or
why that is I I do want to make one

936
01:25:16,719 --> 01:25:23,800
point of clarification though to make
sure that people understand that the

937
01:25:21,239 --> 01:25:30,840
policy to open up the the
Firearms was uh is not what is totally

938
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:37,000
driving this and was not at an added
cost to any it's just when I looked at

939
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:44,280
this whole thing in the
totality you just learned some things

940
01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:48,480
that how it how the policy impacts
hiring how the the numbers got a little

941
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:52,639
bit out of control I'm trying to shrink
that back down a little bit and so

942
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:57,600
there's it's the totality of the
circumstances not just one issue and

943
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:04,199
this is all public knowledge but I don't
think you actually mentioned what

944
01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:08,320
revolver are we looking at um is this
something that you want the public to

945
01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:15,679
know what our Deputy of the carrying
around or not sure the intention is to

946
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:20,239
go with with a a Glock 459 millimeter I
know that sounds weird because 45 also

947
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:27,560
happens to be a caliber but it's the
Glock model 45 in

948
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:34,520
9mm and uh little bit of trivia for you
Glock when they make a new

949
01:26:31,119 --> 01:26:40,320
firearm apply calls the model
sequentially with their patent numbers

950
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:44,800
so this is the 45th Glock patent if
anybody

951
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:51,840
cares and just a little have for Trivial
Pursuit somay is Glock an American uh

952
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:57,080
product it's an Austrian made firearm
that is is uh very common in law

953
01:26:54,040 --> 01:27:01,960
enforcement and military service
globally commission Workman well Mr

954
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:08,600
chairman I think more importantly what
is the firearm that didn't want to

955
01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:16,080
behave and kind of caused this I think
important to the public is that readily

956
01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:21,679
available uh it is it it is a uh 6our
P320 is the the firearm and the model

957
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:28,600
and I want to be very clear on this
point that it is it's an allegation it's

958
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:35,880
in litigation sigar is saying there is
no problem with the firearm the 100 uh

959
01:27:32,679 --> 01:27:40,840
plaintiffs are asserting that there is I
don't know there's a question mark next

960
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:45,960
to it there is not a question mark
adjacent to any of the designs

961
01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:51,800
of the other models that are currently
in use in

962
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:57,360
in I think we all learned more way more
about revolvers and Firearms than I ever

963
01:27:54,679 --> 01:28:04,520
anticipated but I appreciate you all
reminding me that I am for

964
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:08,520
BS with that we're looking for a motion
second motion by commissioner Workman

965
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:13,719
second by commissioner rudderman to
approve the fundings for the purchase of

966
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:17,960
agency issued handguns and accessories
any more commissioner work well Mr

967
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:23,920
chairman I need motion I'm I'm all for
this uh but I will not

968
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:31,600
uh take any phone calls from deputies
who don't want to drive a Dodge

969
01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:37,040
rate what nobody so noted sheriff and
County

970
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:44,199
attorney any more discussion all in
favor of the motion say I I any opposed

971
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:49,800
seeing none the motion passes
unanimous thank you oh sure before you

972
01:28:46,679 --> 01:28:55,159
go um it was in the paper are we going
to have to spend more money changing our

973
01:28:52,159 --> 01:29:01,840
logos on your patches because the state
feel and State uh flag might change well

974
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:06,840
you know it's it's funny to mention
we've been talking about that internally

975
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:13,480
about what this impact is to us because
uh our badges support the state seal our

976
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:19,280
shoulder patches do we have things like
that in throughout our office uh the uh

977
01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:24,880
the lettering on our squad
cars has the badge with the state SE and

978
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:32,639
so it we will absolutely if they make
the change um prompt us

979
01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:38,560
to look at all of those sorts of things
unintensive consequences always B we'll

980
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:43,920
sort that out once the legislature gets
done with it thank you Sheriff thank you

981
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:49,600
with that it brings us to
9.2 uh creating a Communications

982
01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:54,719
Department Mr Nick kavi our assistant
County Administrator Nick uh good

983
01:29:52,679 --> 01:29:57,719
morning Mr chair and
Commissioners

984
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:13,440
your see Justin can you pull it up on
the

985
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:27,679
screen
we got some time Tom you can run down

986
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:31,639
Dodge Rams some
more the sheriff just bought one

987
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:47,440
after this brings up another fact that
we're gonna be changing some of our Audi

988
01:30:43,719 --> 01:30:54,440
visual correct
Tech Yeah March can't come soon enough

989
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:56,520
right H should we take a five minute I
think

990
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:03,400
he all right well thank you again Mr
chair and Commissioners I'm here today

991
01:31:01,639 --> 01:31:08,360
to talk about the creation of a
Communications Department within our

992
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:13,360
Public Services Division this has been a
little while in the coming uh I've been

993
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:18,320
working on many different plans on how
to fill a vacancy and looking forward on

994
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:24,800
how we can best serve uh Carver County
residents really the goals of this uh

995
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:28,800
change are three uh one is to enhance
overall County

996
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:32,320
communications one uh the second is to
Foster consistency and communication

997
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:36,920
across our
organization then the third is to

998
01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:39,600
leverage a higher level of expertise in
communication

999
01:31:39,719 --> 01:31:47,320
strategy with that uh the main item I'm
proposing today is to elevate the

1000
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:52,480
currently vacing Communications manager
position that was held by Eric

1001
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:57,840
previously to the chief Communications
officer to manage this new Department

1002
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:02,679
within public services division other
Staffing would include two new positions

1003
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:08,280
that were included in the and approved
in the 2024 budget that includes the

1004
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:12,760
part-time communication specialist and
then a full-time communication

1005
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:18,480
specialist within the public uh works
department two existing employees would

1006
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:23,679
also report to this department that
would be the Public Works communication

1007
01:32:20,679 --> 01:32:27,040
manager that's Sarah position currently
and then the planning and water

1008
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:31,159
management senior Outreach and
engagement specialist That's mine's

1009
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:37,800
position for
reference today's request does not

1010
01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:41,159
increase the total FTE allocation what
I'm looking to do is to elevate one of

1011
01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:46,000
the existing positions all the other
ones are currently approved in the

1012
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:52,400
budget it actually slightly decreases
because I'm looking to our stock funding

1013
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:56,880
for this so overall wanted it would
slightly decrease that t allocation but

1014
01:32:55,119 --> 01:33:01,320
again within this area of more moving
things around an elevating

1015
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:06,080
position so with that elevating of the
position from the communications manager

1016
01:33:03,119 --> 01:33:12,199
to a chief Communications officer that
has a fiscal impact of an increase of

1017
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:17,560
$3,841
79 with that I am providing funding

1018
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:22,560
options within the Public Services
Division this includes $122,000 for my

1019
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:26,960
Professional Services
line the reason for that that I'm

1020
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:30,719
proposing that is we have not utilized
those funds in several years

1021
01:33:29,119 --> 01:33:35,600
historically some of those funds have
been used for Architects and space

1022
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:40,840
planning but since we did a massive
space plan my thinking is we won't need

1023
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:44,760
those funds going forward then also some
of those funds include cable casting and

1024
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:49,520
with our am upgrade we're going to be
bringing that cable casting service in

1025
01:33:47,239 --> 01:33:52,520
house once we have that upgrade made so
there'll be some cost savings there as

1026
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:57,880
well
in addition I've proposing

1027
01:33:54,280 --> 01:34:04,000
$715 to come from the facility stock
stock is seasonal temporary

1028
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:11,080
onf if you remember earlier last year we
did a reor within facilities this $

1029
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:16,040
7,155 was the savings for that we put
that in stock to hold that for future we

1030
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:20,119
were thinking maybe getting a seasonal
at this time I don't think we'll utilize

1031
01:34:17,639 --> 01:34:24,840
those funds so I propose that we utilize
them for this instead

1032
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:27,600
then the last one is a extension stock
with

1033
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:34,600
$468
79 if you remember several years ago we

1034
01:34:30,440 --> 01:34:40,320
had two admin support staff within uh
extension we reduced that down to one as

1035
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:45,320
part of that budget move we move some
funds to the stock budget that way if

1036
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:51,159
that person's off on vacation or needs
extra help we can utilize uh those funds

1037
01:34:48,440 --> 01:34:55,639
for that looking at historic Trends we
haven't been using all those funds so my

1038
01:34:53,440 --> 01:35:01,360
propos propos us to take some of those
funds and to utilize it to help P this

1039
01:34:58,440 --> 01:35:06,719
position for this
change so with that Mr chair my uh

1040
01:35:04,119 --> 01:35:11,679
recommendation is a motion to create a
Communications Department of Public

1041
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:17,320
Services eliminate the vacant 1.0 FTE
Communications manager create a new 1.0

1042
01:35:14,639 --> 01:35:20,400
FTE Chief Communications officer and
approve the associated budget amendment

1043
01:35:19,159 --> 01:35:27,639
request
form any questions for Mr kabi Mr chair

1044
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:30,600
m i I think this is the right move I
think it's an indication of the growth

1045
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:35,040
of our County and and stepping into the
next area I know that you spent a lot of

1046
01:35:32,679 --> 01:35:37,960
time in diligence looking at this one of
those being you know is it a competitive

1047
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:41,719
wage should track the right candidate so
I appreciate all the effort on it I know

1048
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,560
that um particularly in lyndon's group
there's a lot of money spent to let the

1049
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,600
public know tell our story right what
are we doing how are we doing it I know

1050
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:52,880
chasa just went through a significant
amount of that and it's hard to measure

1051
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:55,679
that savings you know like when when the
community is engaged and they're not you

1052
01:35:54,360 --> 01:36:00,440
know pounding your front desk with a
bunch of calls because they're proactive

1053
01:35:57,719 --> 01:36:05,320
is there a way that um that we can make
this partially unfunded by Levy by way

1054
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:09,520
of billing it back to a road project or
billing it back to a different

1055
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:14,239
project you know I defer to L I can't
remember it's part of the exting sales

1056
01:36:12,679 --> 01:36:20,800
is coming from the sales
ta okay s's this but like the can we do

1057
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:24,440
a part just make sure we get this on uh
yeah yeah could you please come up

1058
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:29,639
explain how the public work some of that
is maybe would you practi pay for the

1059
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,679
chief Communications officer I guess is
the question oh right yeah I know that

1060
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:38,800
Mr chair Commissioners that the new
position funded in 24

1061
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:43,920
specialist that one is funded with Road
and Bridge CIP funds okay as well as

1062
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:46,880
cers as you know okay yeah so like net I
think the taxpayers are getting a better

1063
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:50,440
at a benefit and they're not paying the
full cost of it I mean directly through

1064
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:53,040
Levy guess that's the point thank you
lynon um the other things I kind of

1065
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:57,199
wanted to point out when we looked at
goals we had talked about it in work

1066
01:36:55,080 --> 01:37:01,679
session um uh in
June I think this role is partially to

1067
01:36:59,639 --> 01:37:06,600
help promote a robust Talent pipeline
too we Face a lot of headwinds and tell

1068
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:13,040
our story as a community two years ago
um we hosted the first um rural or out

1069
01:37:10,639 --> 01:37:17,119
outstate um cver County Commerce
Corridor to where through greater MSP in

1070
01:37:15,639 --> 01:37:21,280
Greater MSP the number one
recommendation they said was is tell

1071
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:25,040
your story because part of our story is
we don't tell our story much because

1072
01:37:22,679 --> 01:37:29,920
we're the ASU kind of County folks but I
also think that through um our strategy

1073
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:33,719
documents um we said well it look like
for this first thing for this person to

1074
01:37:31,719 --> 01:37:36,679
do is to take a look at telling our
story particularly to an audience of

1075
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:39,679
Juniors that may be considering where
they're going to go to work in the

1076
01:37:37,639 --> 01:37:44,080
future and telling the story Cross
functionally of collectively what do we

1077
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:48,800
do as a county um so so promoting a
robust Talent pipeline um I I think is

1078
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:51,639
part of the goals as well so fully
support this I think it's a step in the

1079
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:55,000
right direction other counties and
cities are doing the same and they're

1080
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:58,920
seeing huge benefit from it so thanks
for the work on it any other questions

1081
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:06,199
for
Nick if not is there a motion move

1082
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:09,639
approval as requested uh to fund um the
chief Communications office I think

1083
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:14,880
it'll be first in our history um it's a
good way to kick off uh

1084
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:19,679
2024 um and the funding associated with
it a motion by commissioner rman is

1085
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:25,760
there a second
second second by commissioner any other

1086
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:33,920
discussion all in favor of the motion
say I I any oppos seeing

1087
01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:38,320
none passes unanimous commissioner Lynch
I can make the motion to recesses the

1088
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:43,719
cver County Board and conen K County
Regional railroad Authority is there a

1089
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:49,920
second second that motion by
commissioner ly second myself to uh

1090
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:56,080
enter into the regional rail Authority
uh any discussion all in favor of that

1091
01:38:52,199 --> 01:39:00,960
motion say I I anybody opposed seeing
none motion passes

1092
01:38:58,119 --> 01:39:07,440
unanimously uh at this point Mr hamy
what do we have to do as a regional

1093
01:39:03,159 --> 01:39:07,440
rail uh new packet last

1094
01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:17,800
page page 8 sorry
53 uh we just basically have to appoint

1095
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:22,800
uh chair a vice chair and a secretary
treasury typically Mr chair it's G down

1096
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:27,360
to the RO this
way I don't think there's I think it's

1097
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:32,040
more of a statutory obligation and the
chair Vice

1098
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:38,280
chair guide the meetings hearing the
request is there such a

1099
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:42,800
motion uh so move Mr chair second motion
by commissioner Lynch seconded by

1100
01:39:40,119 --> 01:39:48,639
commissioner F to appoint the chair Vice
chair and secretary treasurer as Mr memy

1101
01:39:45,719 --> 01:39:54,159
mentioned just going down the line on
the board here uh any discussion yeah uh

1102
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:58,719
we do need a secretary treasurer that
would be the third person okay I just

1103
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:02,159
want to clarify I'm not sure there's any
official duties

1104
01:39:59,830 --> 01:40:05,960
[Music]
withens as long as Diana is breathing

1105
01:40:04,719 --> 01:40:13,880
we're
okay uh all in favor of the motion say I

1106
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:19,119
I oppos motion carries unanimously there
a motion to adjourn as a regional rail

1107
01:40:16,599 --> 01:40:23,679
so move second motion by commissioner
Lynch second by commissioner F to to

1108
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:28,520
adjourn as a regional rail Authority and
reconvene as the County Board any

1109
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:34,639
discussion on that all in favor of that
motion say I I oppose motion carries

1110
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:39,679
with that we turn over to Mr Hemy for
the county administrative report yeah

1111
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:45,320
thank you Mr chair next week 7:30 a.m.
Tuesday the legislative

1112
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:51,599
breakfast uh you bump into any of our
reps remind them so far only Senator

1113
01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:57,040
Coleman representative brag and harder
and make council member Barber and

1114
01:40:55,119 --> 01:41:01,560
Legislative Assistant for Emer have said
they're going to be there so if you

1115
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:05,159
could shake bushes a little bit to see
these

1116
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:11,800
folks let them know Dian maybe we could
send out one final reminder I think

1117
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:18,000
we've sent out at least two three uh but
we'll see you there so same format as as

1118
01:41:14,679 --> 01:41:23,080
as Year's breakfast at the American
730 that's it Mr chair okay with that is

1119
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:28,159
there a motion to enter into Clos
session to discuss

1120
01:41:25,719 --> 01:41:32,440
confidential settlement negotiations for
the purchase of real property for

1121
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:46,040
Highway 212 project in Venton Township
pursu to Minnesota statute section 13

1122
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:46,040
d05 subsection 3 C and related p number

1123
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:56,440
404447
is there a motion to go into close

1124
01:41:53,599 --> 01:41:59,599
session for that purpose so Mo motion by
commissioner Lynch second by

1125
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:08,280
commissioner udman going to close
session all in favor of the motion say I

1126
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:08,280
I close we are going into close

1127
01:42:10,679 --> 01:42:17,400
session minute
break yeah we'll take a three minute

1128
01:42:14,599 --> 01:42:17,400
break to get set

1129
01:42:18,199 --> 01:42:25,400
up you know if the video is working uh
we'll have to

1130
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:28,400
see
okay

1131
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:44,840
maybe still got the r this here think

1132
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:56,560
can that
isn't City ofia doing some extensive

1133
01:42:53,639 --> 01:43:01,560
stuff there too
yeah they'll be midd and overlay each

1134
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:06,639
end of it too so
from roundabout at cor Park South all

1135
01:43:05,159 --> 01:43:11,760
the way
up Well Trail

1136
01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:22,679
Gap

1137
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,639
what's next

1138
01:43:44,300 --> 01:43:55,239
[Music]
here just stay away from the six hours I

1139
01:43:52,360 --> 01:44:00,040
I have a got Springfields I
never crossed over to the blocks

1140
01:44:02,119 --> 01:44:05,760
but the guys shoot

1141
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:16,199
45 here there I
mean you mentioned the military has the

1142
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,199
same

1143
01:44:19,599 --> 01:44:22,599
gun

1144
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,639
F three

1145
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,560
boards

1146
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,639
was in

1147
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:18,880
Afghanistan pull out of that really

1148
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:22,480
stupid

1149
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,090
[Music]

1150
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,360
yes get

1151
01:45:49,480 --> 01:45:52,480
a

1152
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,199
it's kind of cool how many books did

1153
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:11,360
you yeah land

1154
01:46:13,719 --> 01:46:18,639
that's did you ask if that get fired

1155
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:27,000
up him can more
than any

1156
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:30,280
military guys in Special
Forces have

1157
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,760
deal

1158
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:46,000
bege we can go from music training right
into s foress training and the guys who

1159
01:46:43,239 --> 01:46:52,400
have to wait five six years to get
Sergeant before they get try out that's

1160
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,400
trainers I know

1161
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,920
still there

1162
01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:18,960
aoke I
one

1163
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:18,960
yeah you talking about Navy

1164
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,320
Seals

1165
01:47:37,639 --> 01:47:45,400
this
close said

1166
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,400
hey

1167
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,320
urgent

1168
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:14,320
there's a book it's about Roy bone it's
called first seal and he was in dur the

1169
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:19,480
Cuban missing Christ he was in cubba
twice and he was the most advaned person

1170
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:22,280
you ever seen in your life he said that
your

1171
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:26,360
team is much more important than your
family so you can always get bu more

1172
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,080
kidsus

1173
01:48:38,440 --> 01:48:41,550
[Music]

1174
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:54,109
fathered was
like

1175
01:48:51,050 --> 01:48:54,109
[Music]

1176
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:23,280
next year they'll save I don't have two
wives I don't need two next next here he

1177
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:25,679
married a Jersey girl this isn't going
to go

1178
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:31,239
well this I brought I bought my wife a
air

1179
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:37,000
dryer was like $300 I've never heard

1180
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:46,599
such know how much my fishing stuff is
ridiculous that's true she uses that

1181
01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:52,119
every day you
use 10

1182
01:49:48,639 --> 01:49:52,119
20 about how many

1183
01:49:54,040 --> 01:50:03,480
success
right I'm going to like w by Wednesday

1184
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:09,880
so wish me luck they have ice and stay
above yeah

1185
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:15,280
they famous last words up there you need
to be careful right now are you gonna

1186
01:50:11,239 --> 01:50:21,480
bring a rubber rubber raft with yeah
right now you sound like my wife spear

1187
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:27,119
work with the rubber R is CH isn't
this I uh I watched a guy fishing with a

1188
01:50:24,480 --> 01:50:30,760
boat in Buffalo yesterday so yeah they
fishing on like they're always

1189
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:38,599
biast Northeast
by

1190
01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:52,520
we this year my son bought a house he
got special rods reels

1191
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,520
yeah dish

1192
01:50:53,880 --> 01:51:02,719
binder
on be the

1193
01:50:58,440 --> 01:51:08,719
bottom he was up in Grand Rapids I
saw small

1194
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:17,199
leg said don't
any already been on Red Lake see they

1195
01:51:13,159 --> 01:51:21,360
had 40 people 100
rescue well where where's the ice flow

1196
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:25,920
go there's safe on the ice flow right
just move it across the leg unless you

1197
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:30,560
jump in a canoe try it back until the
question is when the ice breaks off do

1198
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:33,599
you keep fishing nve and you're
[Music]

1199
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:39,400
trolling green trolling you got to
change your

1200
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:51,960
gear worst part is you need to leave
your GE

1201
01:51:53,159 --> 01:51:57,520
they don't take it because you're
jumping back in the boat you get you

1202
01:51:55,719 --> 01:52:04,599
know you can't bring your sled they're
not your gear so it's all litter in the

1203
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:08,119
lake you can go back and get it up again
but then you got to cross into the

1204
01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:12,960
reservation what how's that
work it blows across to the South the

1205
01:52:10,599 --> 01:52:12,960
upper

1206
01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:22,880
half gear you're never going to see it
again plus it's on eBay or then Dave's

1207
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:25,280
life's really going to be mad you want
two hair

1208
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:30,280
dryers I want to ask my insurance agent

1209
01:52:32,639 --> 01:52:42,239
discovered having trouble back here no
I'm we were sitting at uh HS on Round

1210
01:52:40,639 --> 01:52:48,920
Lake by
hayry we were inside having dinner and

1211
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:53,760
drinks and here comes these five yucks
when they're ATV

1212
01:52:50,599 --> 01:52:58,920
right up to the beach they get off and
they all start

1213
01:52:56,239 --> 01:53:05,320
walking and all the people in the bar
going I don't know

1214
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,320
taking

1215
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:11,239
five come on in order the Walley

1216
01:53:11,639 --> 01:53:15,159
sandwich went

1217
01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:23,040
dice one year we were sitting how' you
get out

1218
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:28,599
well you don't sink right away to the
bottom so snow wheel floats if you're

1219
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:32,320
able to crawl out in the ice then go
through the marsh and stop at a house

1220
01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:35,400
and warm up but shocking that she won't
ride a snow with

1221
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:44,599
anymore the snowmobile out we had to
hire a company snowmobile floats you

1222
01:53:41,159 --> 01:53:51,079
said for a little while yeah wasn't too
deep there but it was 10 below that day

1223
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:55,880
too didn't she carried him on her back
just crying the whole

1224
01:53:53,520 --> 01:54:00,880
way did she say you really know how to
treat a girl yeah it's been eight years

1225
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:06,760
since she's been on a snowm with
me we were up up years some near quite

1226
01:54:04,719 --> 01:54:11,199
but we're standing near around Lake
haward on the edge sort of the edge of

1227
01:54:09,239 --> 01:54:15,320
the lake and for some reason we're
stopped where we going to go

1228
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:21,920
next we're we're basically standing
around this snowmobile the back

1229
01:54:18,679 --> 01:54:27,880
end goes like this in the lake hung up
on the

1230
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:34,000
skis you know we had a couple of
Pops it's pointing straight up in the

1231
01:54:31,159 --> 01:54:39,679
air and we aned her out but this little
piece of ice just

1232
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:46,320
went you didn't get wet back in not the
motor I mean

1233
01:54:41,719 --> 01:54:46,320
you no just the back end of

1234
01:54:48,679 --> 01:54:55,760
the
there was a b big

1235
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,760
old

1236
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:06,520
that old guy yeah we do a job we got we
could sit by the door we

1237
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:10,400
started that they're supposed to float I
thought they were supposed to FL but I

1238
01:55:07,639 --> 01:55:14,679
don't think these do I don't know I I
haven't heard the final

1239
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:19,960
story well they have they added a I mean
these things are built uh 40s 50s they

1240
01:55:18,239 --> 01:55:23,400
added airbags to the front and back but
20 years ago there was like three PE

1241
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:26,119
three or four people died yeah so then
they're they're supposed to float after

1242
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:32,320
I thought that's what they tell you
should be recording okay oh we're in the

1243
01:55:29,079 --> 01:55:39,960
clot session this is January 2nd
2024 we're talking about

1244
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:47,960
um real property in Highway 212 project
bent Township pursued to Minnesota

1245
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:51,599
statute 13 D5 SE subsection C on the
parcel number 40

1246
01:55:53,440 --> 01:56:03,239
44470
point I guess uh I'm Gail degler County

1247
01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:09,239
Board John py County Board Tim Lynch
County Board udman County Board on

1248
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:15,079
County Board Josh we outside Council
assistant with the acquisition front r w

1249
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:21,520
is the RightWay agent for the
property director Darren milky Deputy

1250
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:27,639
County engineer Ms County attorney he
County Administrator take it away

1251
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:31,760
Darren we to bring it up on the screen
too if not we're have to do a lot of

1252
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:35,320
descriptive uh what would make you think
that just might not be able to do it

1253
01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:39,760
we'll try we'll try our best but we'll
give him a give him a chance to bring it

1254
01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:47,440
up but I'll give an overview so um
Highway 212 project um this is the next

1255
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:47,440
phase Final Phase I guess for now um