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[0:11] here good morning welcome to the January
2nd 2024 County Board of Commissioners
[0:17] meeting please join me in the Pledge of
[0:21] Allegiance United States of America and
the repic which it stands one nation
[0:28] godp with
[0:33] so my apologies we are not streaming
today we are however
[0:38] recording welcome again to the first
meeting of the year uh first item of
[0:43] business is to nominate and elect the
chair for
[0:49] 2024 like i' like nominate Gil dler
commer dler has been nominated any other
[0:55] nominations nominate Tom
Workman Mr Workman has been nom
[1:00] nominated any other
nominations any other
[1:06] nominations hearing none I think I need
do I need a
[1:10] second the chair I do not okay uh then
I'll I'll do a a vote on
[1:18] commissioner dler as the county Caro
County Board chair all in favor say I I
[1:24] so oppos say nay I uh the motion is
successful and a three to
[1:30] vote thank you I want to take a brief
break or do you want to take over Mr
[1:36] chair and get the vice chair elected
unless you want to do that to get the
[1:41] vice chair and then we can switch both
whatever at the same time on you once
[1:45] you to get that done then then we'll
switch around okay uh nominations are
[1:48] now open for vice
chair all nominate John
[1:54] Fe any other
nominations John F been nominated any
[2:01] other
nominations fated for the third time any
[2:05] other
nominations hearing no no other
[2:08] nominations all in favor of John F as
Vice chairman say I I I pose I uh motion
[2:17] is successful welcome congratulations Mr
F uh with that we'll take a two minute
[2:24] break
to switch anything you wanted to switch
[2:28] very good you switch
shares at
[2:50] same
[2:58] yep
[3:02] go thank
[3:28] you thanks to
[3:33] that's gladly hand that back
to much
[3:39] pressure okay with that we will continue
with our morning's business uh item e is
[3:48] public comments anybody from the public
like to say a few words to the county
[3:52] board on a topic that's not on the
agenda seeing none we'll go on to
[3:59] community Community announcements
commissioner Community announcements um
[4:05] commissioner
P thank you Mr chair uh just a couple
[4:09] items
the Historical Society if you've been
[4:15] looking for a new reason to stop by the
Cara County Historical Society here's
[4:20] one they are hosting the Minnesota home
front World War II exhibit which is on
[4:27] load from the Minnesota Historical
Society
[4:31] come on in and take a look at what the
home front here in Minnesota was like
[4:37] while the country was at war in 19 in
the
[4:42] 1940s the Museum's located at 555 West
First Street in wakona
[4:49] and the hours are 9 to 4:30 Monday
through Friday and 9 to2 on
[4:56] Saturdays also the car County Library uh
they're jumping right into
[5:03] 2024 with something for our teens
they're offering a scholarship essay
[5:09] workshop on Saturday January 6 this will
be an online class from 10:30 to noon
[5:16] and will be taught by The Loft students
will prepare to write their college
[5:21] scholarship application essays by
exploring their personal narrative and
[5:26] how to tell their story in a compelling
way additional details can be found at
[5:33] www.car caror live.org
and um want to wish all the staff and
[5:41] everyone at Carver County happy New Year
any other public announcements commun
[5:45] announcements Mr chair commissioner I
myself on uh given my reasons for my
[5:50] vote so I use a few minutes to talk
about that now uh on the nomination
[5:54] process the last three years and you'll
see it also in the um packet for today
[5:58] for proposed agenda an announcements
you're see an increased movement of
[6:01] other County boards um other City
councils other townships to move towards
[6:05] a rotation process to take the politics
out of who's going to hold the Gabel to
[6:09] create Clarity for staff so you can
anticipate the future so in the course
[6:14] of the last 20 two years now um one
commissioner district has been notably
[6:20] uh uh absent from holding the gavel I
think everybody who dly elected should
[6:24] have the same burden and benefit of
holding that gavel I also think that six
[6:28] out of the last nine years years the
vice president has moved to the chair
[6:31] creating again a chance for the staff to
know who's going to be the leader and
[6:34] hold that gabble throughout the course
of the year so for those reasons I did
[6:38] not vote for the nomination because Tom
should have moved into the chair role
[6:42] and then either District Four or
District three should have moved in the
[6:44] vice chair role to be here for
2025 other announcements that I had over
[6:49] the course of the holiday I had a chance
to be out in about in a number of our
[6:52] buildings and talk to a lot of our staff
had a see chance to see the new Paradise
[6:57] Commons building at Lake ponia it looks
beautiful signage is up um that's been
[7:01] quite an Endeavor not only for the
acquisition of that property over the
[7:05] course of 20 some years but also the
development of it and Marty and his team
[7:09] have led that I'm perfect at times but
um it's a beautiful building and I hope
[7:13] our community gets great use out of that
had a chance to go to the First Street
[7:16] Center that sometimes we forget about
it's our mental health facility and I
[7:20] know that that's on the horizon for when
it comes to space planning but um that
[7:23] business that building was active out of
necessity around the holidays and uh
[7:28] pardon me said say that in this sense
that it's a necessity throughout the
[7:32] holidays some of us had the luxury of
stepping away from the office taking
[7:35] some time off being with our families um
the instances of mental health and
[7:38] mental health challenges um elevates at
this time of year so appreciate the
[7:42] staff that were there had a chance to be
at the government center and meet with a
[7:45] ton of people the DMVs and the libraries
libraries were packed and the DMV was as
[7:49] well and so um Dave and your team thank
you for that um scheduling has been a a
[7:55] chance for us to to get more people
through that door um in as much as I
[7:58] would have liked that to be an empty
room where people in and out there's a
[8:01] high demand because I know that we're
delivering good service there so thank
[8:04] you to your teams had a chance to be a
lot of gatherings and I think a lot of
[8:07] times we go to a lot of things right we
go to the alliance club we go to the
[8:11] legion we go out and about in the
community um but it's what we bring back
[8:14] to this boardroom and make an impact of
and the two common themes that I heard
[8:17] among all the Gatherings that I was is
number one overall affordability
[8:21] including taxes not just um the taxes
that we decide the city taxes Township
[8:25] taxes and otherwise and how it's
impacting Our Youth and our Next
[8:29] Generation being simply unaffordable for
people to live here and the second theme
[8:33] I heard over and over and over and over
and over again was mental health in our
[8:37] in our um world um not just from a
perspective of HHS but also from law
[8:42] enforcement attorney's office families
Etc it's something that's pling us in so
[8:47] many ways our county is the gold
standard when it comes to addressing
[8:49] those things um I want to wish Happy New
Year to all the staff um and the people
[8:54] that are watching the community and also
wanted to underscore the importance and
[8:59] the impact of not for-profit Civic
organizations Faith organizations and
[9:03] the Partnerships that we have a number
of those were elevated through this
[9:06] holiday um one of that I'll elevate my
daughter and I volunteer every couple
[9:10] weeks at the Bountiful Baskets U their
demand is up almost two times from last
[9:14] year that doesn't mean that there's two
times more people um that are trying to
[9:19] find a a way for free food it means that
there's two times more need in our
[9:22] community and so I think it's Our
obligation and opportunity as a board um
[9:27] to address those and again in so many
ways we done that with a good standard
[9:30] and all those people in the room right
now I've done that I'm looking at
[9:33] Heather I'm looking at Sheriff camon I'm
looking at Sarah these are not easy
[9:36] things to do and their needs within our
community that will get bigger not
[9:39] smaller in the next year so thank you
chair thank you commissioner urman any
[9:45] other public announcements this morning
um with that we'll continue on with our
[9:50] oh wish everybody a Happy New Year um
and hopefully this next year will be
[9:55] even better than the one we've had last
year item number two agenda review and
[10:01] adoption chair I move approval with one
exception I had asked A2 to hold from
[10:05] consent and move to regular agenda so we
can see that
[10:09] presentation we have a motion with the
the switching of
[10:14] item what 8.2 to
9.2 any second we have a motion add a
[10:22] second motion by commissioner udman
second by commissioner Workman Mr chair
[10:26] yes sorry to interrupt but this
clarification we actually have proposed
[10:29] amendment change including that and the
addition of of a library board applicant
[10:34] CDA applicant and the proposed changes
to the operating rules attorney except
[10:39] from the amendment thanks okay we do
have that in front of us um any
[10:45] discussion on that
motion all in favor of the motion uh as
[10:50] stated say I I I oppose motion carries
item number three 2024 board operating
[10:58] rule rules with that I'll turn it over
to administrator hemp thank you Mr chair
[11:03] as we ask you to do every year and you
required to by State Statute we have the
[11:10] proposed operating rules in your
packet the only changes that I
[11:17] proposed are listed on page five of your
packet by the way there are a couple
[11:22] page numbers so I'm referring to your
packet page page five of your packet
[11:26] where we're clarifying that outside of
the metro area overnight expenses
[11:31] associated with conferences are eligible
for reimbursement that's the way we've
[11:35] been handling it we just added that
clarification to make sure everybody
[11:40] understands that and then on page 11 of
your packet there's a change related to
[11:44] the youth Library board appointment to
clarify the timing on the age
[11:51] restriction 18 and under which we bumped
into this past year so those are
[11:56] relatively simple changes and then again
you should you should have a hand out in
[12:01] front of you and that was
distributed proposing other changes that
[12:06] those proposed changes were made by
commissioner wman so I'll stand for
[12:11] questions any questions for
administrative he on proposed
[12:16] changes if not um is there we can either
take it the mo have a motion for the
[12:25] whole uh accepting the whole operating
rule or we can um talk about each
[12:31] section by
[12:35] themselves what's the wishes of the
board at this
[12:43] point I think there excuse Mr the
relatively minor changes I would move
[12:48] approval okay we have a motion by
commissioner Lynch is there a
[12:53] second go ahead just for discussion
we're well we should have a second
[12:58] before we have
[13:01] discussion I I second including the um
proposed changes that were
[13:07] presented okay we have a motion and
second to approve the operating rules as
[13:12] for presented by m administrator hamy
now discussion commissioner F yeah I I
[13:17] just wanted to make that clarification
it's not what's on the agenda propos
[13:23] agenda amendments that are in front of
us we talking about what's in our
[13:27] back I believe that's correct because
those are coming up at
[13:32] 9.2 my second uh was to include the
items that were number three um and pull
[13:38] them in in totality for the board
operating if that wasn't your intent Tim
[13:42] then I
withdraw so I will second Mr Lynch
[13:49] motion okay we have a motion made and
second I there discussion on the
[13:53] proposed operating rules as presented by
administrator hem Mr ch just seek a
[14:00] Clarity um if if these were to be passed
as proposed and seconded um would these
[14:04] be on the table as well they would not
uh Mr chair commissioner they would not
[14:09] if you want them on the table that would
be an amendment to the main motion you
[14:13] can do that in a few ways one would be
to just propose the whole list of
[14:18] changes or you could
propose one at a time or a couple at a
[14:23] time but U the key is that you're amend
you're proposing to amend that main
[14:27] motion
so I'll use a few minutes to explain
[14:31] these um they shouldn't come as any
surprise because them multiple times um
[14:37] in E under officers I'm proposing to
take the politics out of the rotation
[14:41] for officers I give the staff ability to
plan ahead see a natural rotation that's
[14:46] predictable and and some points that
were made in our last board meeting
[14:49] quest for transparency um the full full
uh context can be shared there under G
[14:55] monthly expense allowance um again it
was brought up in a previous meeting
[15:01] about prudent use of taxpayer dollars
and transparency at that time we
[15:05] Revisited a um policy that was
established before my agenting the board
[15:09] in 2008 where every commissioner was uh
granted $4,000 of expense on a yearly
[15:15] basis and if they put those items on the
agenda um in the beginning of the year
[15:19] we didn't have to drag those throughs on
an individual basis that also applied to
[15:22] any other elected office U and their
ability to put those items down that
[15:26] item passed um but what did not pass and
was not accepted um was the transparency
[15:32] of the monthly allowance that we use or
each issued a monthly allowance um to be
[15:36] used out of leisure The Proposal says
each commissioner shall be allocated an
[15:40] annual conference and training budget
with an amount to be determined
[15:43] according to the annual budget process
conference and training funds not used
[15:46] by an individual commissioner during
each respective budgetary year will be
[15:50] returned to the general fund at current
There's an opportunity if for instance I
[15:54] didn't use mine I could offer it to Tim
if he was using double the amount and so
[15:58] that's my my proposed amendment another
language is uh current um we each get a
[16:03] stien for our cell phone a number of
board members utilize uh additional
[16:07] dollars above and beyond our stien for
printer cartridges and other expenses my
[16:12] proposal says cell phone expenses
printer cartridges along with any
[16:15] expense $50 or less are not eligible for
reimbursement and can be paid for out of
[16:19] that monthly allowance next item is
broadcasting it's come to my attention
[16:23] that there's a growing number of cities
townships and counties that are using a
[16:27] best practice that gives um board work
sessions the ability to be observed um
[16:31] from people that don't have an ability
to get get to the boardroom um and can
[16:35] be seen and so my language on that one
is all regular meetings of the Carver
[16:38] County Board of Commissioners are
streamed live and recorded for on demand
[16:42] viewing via YouTube All Work sessions
are streamed live with the option to
[16:45] join remotely I'm calling to order to
the meeting and to the adjournment of
[16:49] the meeting's regular session again a
best practice it's seen by a lot of
[16:52] others next up is preparation and
distribution I think we talked about
[16:56] this on a couple of occasion my proposed
languages the County Administrator shall
[17:00] include an item on the proposed agenda
at least three days prior to the meeting
[17:03] for which the agenda is to be prepared
any person for any reason at any time
[17:06] may move any consent item to the agenda
and then a duly elected official may add
[17:11] any agenda item that may have material
impact or requested by the district or
[17:16] uh County stakeholders at current I
believe we're only the only city
[17:19] Township or county that doesn't allow
anybody to pull anything off consent and
[17:23] needs a first a second and a majority
vote I believe that that flies in the
[17:27] face of a representative
democracy um and then finally if we move
[17:31] down uh to the last item which is uh
proposed uh to move ahead the board
[17:37] packet you know sometimes we talked
about um transparency we also talked
[17:41] about uh being able to have a chance to
adequately review couple times during
[17:45] the course of the year that wasn't the
case for reasons that were Beyond us um
[17:49] but what I'm proposing is the board
agenda packet including meeting agenda
[17:52] and supporting materials shall be
received digitally by each member of the
[17:55] board no later than Friday preceding the
regular Tuesday meeting I think far too
[17:59] often we receive some items on Monday or
Tuesday that could have been received on
[18:02] Friday with adequate time to digest so I
will ask that a friendly Amendment be
[18:08] inclusive of these things that were uh
put the taxpayer first Le transparency
[18:12] they're predictable give us a chance to
plan ahead and give some certainty for
[18:16] our
[18:19] staff is there a motion that is a motion
um to accept all those after a unit
[18:28] excuse me we have a motion and a second
to accept those as a unit any more
[18:35] discussion on the now discussion on the
amendment yeah I guess I'm confused
[18:41] because there was a motion second on the
floor then there's another motion second
[18:45] do we have two on the floor I thought a
Bard Opera rules am if I understand
[18:50] commissioner urman is amending the
original motion oh okay I do not wish to
[18:54] accept the
amendment you wish to come in this
[18:59] no I at this point uh we have a second
to the amendment so now we're having
[19:06] discussion on the amendment the amended
motion and your point is you
[19:14] would uh commissioner uh Lynch what are
you saying on original motion maker I do
[19:20] not accept the amendment I believe these
are unnecessary we've operated without
[19:25] these uh rules yeah but at this point
commissioner Lynch uh you don't have to
[19:29] accept oh okay yeah it's we're going to
vote on the proposed
[19:34] amendment and
it's any other discussion on the
[19:39] proposed
amendment all I can say is there's a lot
[19:44] of these items that are listed there
some that have um more in my mind
[19:51] legitimacy than others but as a whole
unit um I can't support the whole unit
[19:58] being passed at that point any other
discussion on the proposed amendment
[20:04] seeing then all in favor of the proposed
amendment say I I I oppose I I motion
[20:11] fails the amendment fails uh on a two to
three vote now we're back to discussion
[20:18] on the original amend the original
proposed
[20:24] um moot main motion thank you
motion any more discussion on the propos
[20:32] uh the main
motion seeing none all in favor of the M
[20:37] motion say I I I oppose I I motion
carries 3 to two with that we have the
[20:46] operating rules in
order item number four then moving on
[20:51] the agenda is the adopt the schedule of
the regular meetings for
[20:57] 2024
[21:03] Mr I'll give administrator not much
explanation needed we do this every year
[21:08] we did our best to try and match last
year of course we as we move through the
[21:14] year uh there there are typically
changes adjustments we can add move
[21:18] around as you
desire uh but it's nice to have the
[21:23] meetings on the schedule if we're pretty
sure we're going to hold them all so I
[21:28] again Following last year's pattern is
basically what we have in front of you
[21:31] for consideration any questions for Mr
administrator hamy Mr chair
[21:35] administrator one question I know that
there was movement on the first week in
[21:38] November last year do we need to move
that this year to the 12th or should we
[21:42] keep it on November
5th
[21:47] hon hesitating
because no uh Mr Shar that was uh in
[21:54] part around deer hunting and that was
that's been done for a number of years
[21:57] but you're hunting this in 2024 November
12 thank you one that I personally
[22:03] checked thank
you any other questions for
[22:07] administrator hamy not is there a motion
to motion by second motion by
[22:14] commissioner Workman second by
commissioner FY to adopt the meeting
[22:18] schedule for 2024 as presented any
discussion all in favor of the motion
[22:24] say I oppos motion carried
[22:30] frog my
[22:41] thr okay item number six on the agenda
committee appointments and
[22:47] assignments you have the list of
committees in front of
[22:53] you we can go through
them individually
[22:58] uh might make the easiest uh Association
Minnesota County board of directors I'll
[23:05] stay as the point e commissioner fee I'm
okay with that sir that's alterate AMC
[23:13] environmental national resources
commissioner
[23:16] Lynch sure list I'll see with the
general government uh Health and Human
[23:21] Services that's fine for everyone okay
uh Public Safety that's fine Mr Workman
[23:31] Transportation uh AMC voting delegates
uh we're all listed there along with um
[23:38] Mr Hemy Lyndon rajant and Heather
Goodwin AMC Metropolitan governance tax
[23:46] Force kitchen cabinet I'm unable to
attend that meeting okay is there an
[23:52] alternate that or somebody else would
like to take commissioner Workman spot
[23:56] on that kitchen cabinet
do you commissioner Workman can you tell
[24:00] us when those meetings probably would be
meeting right now about every week at 3
[24:09] o' what day any other day of the
week uh let me check Mr chair I'm I I've
[24:16] been participating in those by the way
and I will continue to do that and they
[24:20] will be wrapping up once the task for I
think once the task for once the main I
[24:27] what the call the the main panel makes
our recommendations to the
[24:33] legislature double checks if I
have remind everybody M commissioner
[24:39] Workman what the the kitchen cabinet
what their main goal
[24:45] was uh this this was an expanded group
uh to create input into the legislative
[24:53] request to review the Metropolitan
governance uh
[24:59] they I think AMC appointed Bingham from
Washington County if I'm correct so this
[25:05] so this group the intent of this group
was to have a voice by the remaining
[25:10] Metropolitan counties to in particular
bangham as she is it bigam as she uh
[25:16] provides direct input into the into the
main group making recommendations to the
[25:22] legislature so I think it is important
to have uh for me to have some
[25:26] assistance from a board although you
don't need to participate in every one
[25:30] of these but other Commissioners are
attending anybody showing interest uh Mr
[25:37] chair I do see at least one meeting
January
[25:41] 22nd it's a Monday at two
o'clock I think they time had
[25:49] mentioned
weekly there's yeah there's one on J
[25:53] Monday January 8th at 2 o'cl so it looks
like Monday's at two weekly at least for
[25:57] the next month or
[26:01] two to get ready for the legislative
session to provide input uh into the the
[26:06] main individual from Washington
count anybody have an interested joining
[26:14] that group at Mondays sounds like 2
[26:19] o'clock these are remote meetings
[26:23] also if not we'll leave that one open
for now
[26:29] yeah Mr chair what I would do then is I
prer back to who's ever on the
[26:33] legislative committee or for guidance if
needed we'll see where that that group
[26:37] ends up they're getting into some pretty
uh they're getting the weeds some the
[26:42] issu so I I feel like I'm venturing a
little far sometimes so I'll I'll Circle
[26:46] back to the legislative committee if we
don't have an appointment there sounds
[26:49] good um that board of directors I'll
stay on that commissioner udman you want
[26:56] to be alterate that's fine um Arts
committee order R and Workman that's
[27:02] fine okay uh CDA Fe you know before we
do that one yes Mr chair um this is such
[27:11] an important board and and I know that
we're in a state of flux for a lot of
[27:14] reasons and it's probably the most
dynamic decade if CDA is not only
[27:18] because of the dollars and the things
that have been approved um but also the
[27:22] the future need that's here and I just
did a quick look um our lays on in the
[27:27] last half of the year um did not attend
half of the meetings for that CDA I
[27:31] think we deserve better there so I'd be
happy to step up and be that role for
[27:34] the CDA this
[27:38] year Well commissioner F you were on
there um you want to give that up or you
[27:43] want to stay on the CDA at this point I
would like to stay on it um Mr chair and
[27:51] yeah just unfortunate with the schedule
and other meetings that took place
[27:59] definitely do enjoy the the CDA
[28:05] and um with your long history on the CDA
and you're right uh CDA is going through
[28:11] some
obviously uh important times in the for
[28:16] the county uh we'll point point we'll
keep
[28:21] um we'll point fahe to that and keep
udman commissioner udman as alternate at
[28:28] this point Mr chair I just ask I think
it's just inferred and assumed but
[28:33] professional courtesy to let me know if
you're aable to attend JP thank you that
[28:36] is correct if if the man person man
commissioner is unable to for whatever
[28:42] reason uh that's why we do have
alternates and uh we should utilize them
[28:49] that's for sure and also Mr chair if
there is any other board member that's
[28:54] interested in being the alternate for
the seat da if uh I would be open
[29:00] for any individuals that would like to
do that okay thank you I will keep that
[29:05] on the list uh CDA has always been
obviously an
[29:10] important issue for the county Mr shair
just a point of clarification this is a
[29:17] required vote for these appointments and
you typically do that as a
[29:21] slate if there is disagreement I would
suggest removing any any individual
[29:28] items and that would require a motion
second and and majority vote okay let's
[29:34] vote as a slate but at this point I'll
make a motion that we appoint
[29:38] commissioner fahe as our representative
and commissioner udman as our alternate
[29:44] and uh myself as an
alternate uh second alternate a second
[29:49] alternate at this point is there a
second to that
[29:53] motion second uh motion made second any
any more discussion on
[29:59] that if not all in favor of appointing
commissioner fahe as the uh designated
[30:06] and Alternate would be commissioner
udman and I'll be a second Al alternate
[30:10] myself uh all in favor of that motion
say I I
[30:15] oppose motion carries uh with one person
voting against two I think commission
[30:22] okay two
against pass three to two then Carver
[30:27] County leaders
[30:31] uh County leaders we run and Lynch that
Western leaders us the the entire County
[30:39] Mr chair and you know by the way on that
one I'll be asking the group if they
[30:42] want to continue they seem to be
languishing a little bit for Kant
[30:46] struggling for topics so that will be
and ni Nick's helping me with that we
[30:51] we'll discuss that with that group we
have a meeting in January Nick we do
[30:56] okay first January meeting so it might
it might go away it might not spending
[31:00] on the interest well if if it stays
around commissioner udman and
[31:04] commissioner Lynch you both still want
to be on there sure thank you it's
[31:08] usually posted too because there's I
think everyone has attended it it does
[31:13] in the past right yeah um Community
leaders Eastern and that's um myself
[31:20] Comm uran commissioner Workman and
commissioner Fe everybody still want to
[31:26] be on
y keep
[31:29] that
court I
[31:37] don't courts
committee have and myself alterate Mr
[31:43] Lynch well thank you very
much we continue sure thank
[31:50] you strategic National stockpile I'll
continue on that Mr Hemy and Mr Scott
[31:58] Richard
Scott um
[32:02] fairboard Lynch is our leaon
alternate I'm okay with that if somebody
[32:09] has something else to speak up don't let
me go on without uh greater MSP
[32:15] commissioner udman that's
fine uh greater MSP partner advisory
[32:22] Council we're just going with Mr
Swanson
[32:28] okay hearing none we'll go on with that
hman County Workforce task force uh
[32:33] commissioner urman is IR is on Alternate
commissioner
[32:37] Workman um I'm not going to be able to
make those either okay was
[32:45] uh before we choose another alternate is
what's the date on that commissioner
[32:51] urman do you I'm looking at Heather
because Kate Keeps Us honest on that one
[32:57] excuse me we meet the last week of the
month Tuesday Mornings 8
[33:03] a.m. then there's uh i h t in
Bloomington too when they have their
[33:08] henip and Carver
meetings I can't think
[33:14] ofly they of on if you want to put me
down as an alternate commissioner W and
[33:19] I take it sure there 99% of the time yep
okay so I'll fill in
[33:28] alternate okay Historical Society
commissioner workr alternate
[33:33] commissioner fa okay uh health
insurance LMC myself and udman as an
[33:42] alternate we'll continue in that
rooll ditches our favorite subject
[33:48] ditches anybody want to change ditches
if not we'll keep it just the way it's
[33:52] listed right now okay with that Mr chair
okay okay I see nobody else's head
[34:00] moving so we'll keep the ditches as
listed Law Library I'll continue on
[34:07] that
uh legislative committee commissioner
[34:12] fahe and Workman and Comm udman as an
alternate Mr chairman I'm going to step
[34:19] back from that committee
also
[34:24] okay than Pro to have the all move up
I'd be happy to do that okay and I'll
[34:30] sit in as the unless commissioner Lynch
wants to be an alternative oh you can
[34:35] you can sir Mr
[34:38] chair and we'll appoint commissioner
udman as
[34:44] the M
person okay along with the commissioner
[34:48] P I should say la Library commission
urman is our leison H I said Library
[34:54] board not law library library board y
That's yeah lower Minnesota urman and
[35:01] myself okay we'll continue that mcit
voting minator Hemy and
[35:10] Sonia okay Mela commissioner udman
that's fine okay makes sense mental
[35:17] health advisory committee commissioner
Lynch with udman that's
[35:23] alternate okay uh y
mesp I'll stay there along with
[35:29] commissioner
[35:32] fee uh executive board I'll take that
and fath about
[35:38] alternate
okay emergency service
[35:44] radio Susan will continue to be that I
figure with de as our alternate yes Mr
[35:51] chair Dian has reached out to the
individual 911
[35:57] same
[36:00] group Micah M
Workman yeah Mr jman I'm not able to I'm
[36:06] usually not able to make those meetings
so I'll step down from
[36:11] that uh that it's okay we have both the
appointee and the second person actually
[36:20] is two openings
there anybody can make that meeting when
[36:27] is it that's about middle of the
afternoon uh one one
[36:33] o' and it's usually held down
at that behind the
[36:40] capital anybody make that work in their
schedule if not we'll leave that open
[36:47] for right now let everybody think about
that one
[36:52] also uh many haa Creek
Watershed commissioner Workman and
[36:58] Alternate commissioner udman okay
extension I'll stay on that commissioner
[37:03] Lynch yep there um Minnesota real Valley
Regional Rail commissioner Workman with
[37:10] Fe alternate Mr chairman I am no longer
able to make that
[37:18] meeting okay uh commissioner F you want
to step up to
[37:25] the when are those meetings held Tom uh
monthly 3D Wednesday 8:30 in the
[37:32] morning and those are all
[37:36] I gr
[37:45] Falls and as we're looking will you take
it I will take it how about an alternate
[37:51] anybody want to be an alternate for that
railroad let's keep that alter turn it
[37:57] open so we can think about
that Mobility smart
[38:04] link yes uh mosquito control I'll stay
on that commission Workman uh Mr
[38:09] chairman I'm no longer to attend those
meetings
[38:16] able okay we need an alternate or a
second person
[38:23] there uh remind everybody commissioner
Workman what day they
[38:29] are fourth
Wednesday 9:15 9 that is correct and
[38:36] actually our first meeting is this the
fourth 15 control I'll stay on um to the
[38:45] same place as
[38:49] mesb we need a second person if
anybody's
[38:55] available uh uh Park
commission Lynch Blaze on Al Alterna be
[39:03] uh
udman okay it's
[39:08] fine Planning Commission F
Lynch Mr chair I just want to bring it
[39:15] to the attention of the people that the
back half of
[39:19] 2023 our lay on missed 60% of the
meetings are we sure that that's the
[39:24] individual that we want representing us
on the Planning Commission
[39:34] at this point we'll leave it that
way uh but let's make sure that uh we
[39:40] have the communication out there that um
somebody can fill in if the regular
[39:45] person is gone I mean these are
important things commissioner dler I
[39:50] agree I mean economic development is
tied to that um we've been reminded many
[39:55] times that it's largely a function of
the rural community and it just it just
[39:59] seems like 60% of the time we're missing
our meetings are we really at service of
[40:03] the people I just have to ask that I I
don't know that I could support um I
[40:08] don't know if I could support the
current
[40:11] appointment and since I'm excuse me Mr
chair since I'm the chair or the liais
[40:17] on to that committee and there again
with various conflicts with the
[40:21] scheduling just with the knowledge base
and I bring to that board and just to be
[40:28] able to work with the staff in a very
positive way and I I don't think it
[40:34] would be very helpful with uh the disrup
disruption that take would take place
[40:42] if okay at this point the appointment is
commissioner FEI and alternative
[40:48] commissioner Lynch Mr chair it's not
just a lay on it's the only um sizable
[40:53] board that it's a voting member so it
really puts our our staff at a
[40:57] disadvantage when we're looking for a
quorum or a number of votes so um I I'd
[41:02] like to take that one to a vote if you
don't mind okay
[41:06] um do we have a motion I'll make the
motion to appoint commissioner fahe with
[41:11] alternate commissioner Lynch is there a
second second any
[41:17] discussion uh all in favor of the motion
uh say I I I oppose I I motion carries
[41:26] on a three to2 vote uh the point made on
all of these we've uh gone through a
[41:33] bunch of the Committees that um yeah
it's important that people um if you're
[41:39] appointed to the committee show up to
the committee and I think maybe that's
[41:43] something we should probably put on our
regular agenda we've had it in the past
[41:48] years that we have um basically reports
towards the end of our meeting and what
[41:55] committees we've been able to attend
what committees uh and what some of the
[42:01] major work that these committees have
done um it's something that has was
[42:07] actually taken off our agenda a number
of years ago because for a lack of time
[42:13] or lack of whatever uh we just didn't
get to the reports but I think we all
[42:18] have
um Diane put that back on so that we all
[42:24] when we go to our regular me meetings
that we can report back some of the
[42:29] things that are going on at these
committees because uh commissioner udman
[42:34] is very correct on pointing out many
times uh Carver County in a lot of
[42:41] meetings I'm ask the same thing hey
where is your other appointees to not
[42:48] only the committee that I have to be
sitting on but at some of these other uh
[42:52] board meetings and uh it is important uh
we were um and we should be continuing
[43:01] to go uh our work isn't just today it's
our work is um out of these committee
[43:08] meetings that we
attend um with that Mr
[43:12] chair agree it's important but uh you do
have an
[43:18] agenda the format listed in your
operating roles so if you go back to
[43:22] page 10 of your
[43:25] packet item Item
B the board wants to formally change
[43:30] that that was formally changed well it's
been quite a while I don't remember 10
[43:35] plus you see the the format okay so my
suggestion of putting reports at the end
[43:42] of the meeting um since we already
approved the order we don't have to
[43:49] officially do it uh doesn't have to be
part of the
[43:53] agenda printed but I think we'll have to
um just as
[44:00] a as a
time place saver that a person reports
[44:06] back as to something but good point that
we already approved the order our
[44:13] operating rules so we won't change it
this year thank you for the bir yep
[44:18] thank
you um we were at
[44:22] the regional hauling licens board
commissioner Workman alternate
[44:28] Lynch okay we're still okay with that
Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Workman
[44:35] dler on okay good there um Southwest
Corridor Transportation Coalition
[44:42] Workman and
F okay
[44:47] okay now and dler as the alter yes um
steeve CHS advisory committee Mr Scott
[44:56] and Alternate
F uh Transportation Advisory Board the
[45:02] tab M Workman I'm no longer able to make
those
[45:08] okay
um you were the alternate want
[45:14] to unless someone else would anybody
else want to be on the
[45:23] tab this point will leave that
we'll leave it open for this
[45:31] week and then we'll go on from there
water management organization
[45:36] commissioner Lynch and commissioner
F okay y Mr chair uh clarification
[45:42] backing up on the tab
so uh Mr Fay did you agree to be the the
[45:47] main appointment or you want to hold
that I'll uh we'll see if anyone else
[45:53] wants to step up I'll still continue to
be the alternate okay so at this time
[45:59] the appointment's open okay thank you
the appointment's open but the alternate
[46:02] is commissioner Fe
unless that would change we'll put the
[46:08] open items back on the agenda as we did
you to reconsider it
[46:12] correct uh with those
verbal appointments is there a
[46:18] motion to accept all the appointments as
we just discussed vot motion
[46:26] is there a
second second byman any discussion I
[46:31] just clarify so the CDA and Planning
Commission have already been approved
[46:35] sir you're proving the remaining slate
as discussed correct okay thank
[46:40] you any other discussion all in favor of
the motion say I I oppose motion
[46:48] carries with that we're moving on to
item six appointment to the advisory
[46:54] committees we have
[46:58] a did I hear something
okay uh with that we have the advisory
[47:04] committees in front of us we'll take
them in order that's there we have a few
[47:09] additional um applicants that might not
be listed Arts committee we have one
[47:16] vacancy at
large we have one applicant Comm urman
[47:21] that's your district is that yeah
Megan's did a nice job i' move her be on
[47:26] our commit okay see motion made in
second all in favor of the motion say I
[47:32] I po
[47:36] okay there's two Megan the Megan Meg
white can good catch thank
[47:44] you um CDA we have one vacancy with at
least three
[47:52] applicants actually there's a uh there's
or I'd like to make the motion for Troy
[48:06] Williams um any
other um any other nominations for that
[48:13] if not uh is there a second to Troy I'll
second it Mr chair discussion quality
[48:22] applicants I see Mr jer's on there I see
tro Williams jro Daryl's been serving
[48:28] there for a long time also on spirited
transparency um my appointment to
[48:33] District 3 Molly Kaki uh uh submitted
her letter letter of resignation uh as
[48:39] of yesterday effect of the 1 of January
it's been shared with our administrator
[48:42] there's some copies too if you want to
see that I intend to hold that position
[48:46] open until February not only to look at
the climate of where we're at with the
[48:50] CDA and make the best appointment um but
also to give time to uh Harvest some
[48:55] candidates that we need um to serve on
this in a balanced board okay let it be
[49:00] noted that there is another opening on
the CDA it is in District 3 uh just if
[49:07] anybody's watching it they might have an
interest hold that position open for now
[49:14] Mr chair uh commissioner F I would be uh
in favor of making a motion
[49:20] to accept the application from J Ro and
also Troy Williams to fill the CDA
[49:28] board okay there second to that
motion Mr chair I think you already have
[49:35] a did you get a motion in a second for
Troy yes we so we should more on that up
[49:40] there okay I'm sorry any more discussion
on TR
[49:44] Williams if not all in favor say I I I
oppose motion carries TR will be and now
[49:54] um Mr chair I'll make a motion to
uh fill in the application J root to
[50:01] serve on the CDA board for district
three Mr chair I'll support that but I
[50:06] also want to know that it's somewhat
unconventional for somebody to go
[50:09] outside a district um it seems to be
something that commissioner FY has done
[50:14] regularly in my time on the board anyway
and I think the professional courtesy is
[50:18] is that if it's your District um you you
lead that appointment so I
[50:22] enthusiastically support J row to the
CDA I think it's more prudent that we
[50:26] hold off in the current C circumstances
until February but I'm not going to hold
[50:29] up his
appointment so we have a motion and a
[50:33] second any other
[50:36] discussion Mr chair was that a second
Comm yes thank you um any other
[50:42] discussion seeing none all in favor of
appointing uh Mr J row to the CDA say I
[50:50] I
iose motion
[50:54] carries Library
board we have three current vacancies
[51:00] four five and one youth at large Mr Sher
Richard Lynch like to point Daniel
[51:06] McDonald a second that's a amazing
applicant
[51:15] fantastic okay uh we have a motion made
and seconded to Daniel McDonald any
[51:21] discussion all in favor of that motion
say I I
[51:25] oose motion carries that what position
is commissioner Lynch what position
[51:31] would he fill
four four okay we have five district
[51:37] five and the youth at large any other
nominations also Mr chair I'm currently
[51:43] working on uh talking to sub RS to fill
the District Five Spot for Library board
[51:51] I move approval at Tenley for that large
student
[51:55] tenle rutage for the large okay we have
a motion for tenle rutage I'll second
[52:01] that any discussion on that motion all
in favor of the motion to appoint Tinley
[52:07] at say I I oppose motion carries and we
have one District 5 applicant that will
[52:16] hold over
till uh future meeting mental health
[52:21] advisory committees we have can have up
to 14 members nine which are mandated we
[52:26] have a number of applicants anybody want
to make a motion to approve any of those
[52:33] applicat Mr chair I'll make a motion to
accept Sandy and also Stacy I did talk
[52:39] to
Stacy in November of last year and she
[52:45] is
a very active member in that committee
[52:49] and wants to continue to serve motion by
commissioner fahe to accept uh both
[52:54] Sandra and Stacy zelman second second by
commissioner udman any discussion all in
[53:01] favor of the motion say I iose motion
carries we have a couple new more
[53:08] members or new
members on that committee extension
[53:12] committee we
have uh vacancies in district one four
[53:20] and a youth
appointment um Mr chair I'd like to
[53:24] place some n nomation for District 4
Carmen Ginger okay second any discussion
[53:31] on Carmen all in favor of the motion say
I I
[53:36] oppos I'd like to hold open the district
one at this point but there's another
[53:42] applicant for for the Youth
appointment Mr chair I'll make a motion
[53:48] to accept uh
Lisa won't be able to pronounce her last
[53:54] name to the youth
second and with comment um we had uh um
[53:59] Michaela Johnson served that role I
think it was one of the first if not the
[54:02] first um youth appointment and she
brought such a plethora of uh knowledge
[54:07] she uh is a full ride scholarship um
person in uh very intense engineering
[54:12] school in Indiana and I had a chance to
connect with her family over the holiday
[54:17] break and she continues to bring value
to our um Community she's exploring how
[54:23] they can take stem from their
engineering school school and put it
[54:25] into our libraries and serve our
community even in their time um going to
[54:29] school in Indiana so what an important
um place for youth appointment and I
[54:33] think Leisa will do a great job any
other discussion I'll just comment that
[54:37] commissioner Lynch and myself both had
the opportunity to serve with that youth
[54:42] appointment and you are absolutely right
she did add to the committee Michaela
[54:47] was
incredible any other discussion all in
[54:51] favor of the appointment uh to the
extension Committee of the youth
[54:56] appointment say I I oppose motion
carries Park commission two vacancies
[55:03] one and
five um I'll hold open number one for at
[55:08] least another month
um District Five you have an appointment
[55:14] yes Mr chair I'd like to uh appoint Mr
Knight to continue on the Park Board he
[55:21] is a very good addition to the board and
Kellen Schmidt who has also
[55:27] applied if you're looking for an
individual to represent district one
[55:32] Kellen has been on the board of
adjustment for the county in the past is
[55:37] would be a very good candidate I'll hold
it open for one more meeting if not I
[55:41] we'll go back to Kell thank you uh all
in favor of the motion of appointing Mr
[55:48] Knight to the committee to say I I oppos
motion curious Board of personnel
[55:57] appeals applicant Connie long from
district one I'll move that she
[56:03] be uh
reappointed say all in is there second
[56:08] second any discussion all in favor of
that motion say I I OPP motion carries
[56:16] planing
commission vacancies in district one and
[56:21] four I'll move Greg for that's
C thank you thank you and I'd like to
[56:27] move Scott Wakefield one
motion uh there motion made in seconded
[56:33] any discussion all in favor of pointing
Greg and Scott back to the board say I I
[56:39] I oose motion
carries uh water management
[56:44] organization have two vacancies four and
grow
[56:49] River if we could Mr chair we have two
excellent candidates one Mike Lynch and
[56:54] the Lake wigner um Mr wigner would take
over the Crow River wed okay he's a
[57:01] Class A water tech Mr Lynch isn't too
bad either so uh that was a motion I'll
[57:09] second that any
discussion all in favor of the motion
[57:12] say I I I oppos motion
carries uh that should complete the
[57:20] appointments to The Advisory committees
Tim you were pretty busy got some great
[57:24] C
District Four huh thank you sir yeah it
[57:27] really
did uh item number five approve the
[57:32] minutes of the December 19th 2023
regular
[57:37] session there a motion to approve the
minutes so move Mr chairman second
[57:41] motion made by commissioner Lynch second
by commissioner Workman to approve the
[57:45] minutes any
discussion all in favor without motion
[57:49] say I I oppose motion
carries the consent agenda before us we
[57:59] have 12 actually subtract one of them 11
items on there could we
[58:06] moved the one
[58:11] 8.5 move that
one8
[58:15] 82 we move that toight so any is there a
motion to approve the consent agenda as
[58:22] presented as a whole
second with comment um I just wanted to
[58:27] point out 8.9 shrams Winery AGR tourism
and the wine scene that we have here in
[58:33] Carver County is Coveted by many and
their expansion is just phenomenal um
[58:37] the number of people that they serve and
are able to Showcase destination Carver
[58:40] County is amazing so I second that's a
motion and a second with commissioner
[58:46] and commissioner udman you need
discussion on the
[58:49] consent any more discussion I should
have said uh all in favor of the motion
[58:53] say I
oppos motion carries that it brings us
[58:59] to 9.1 agency issued and guns at this
point uh Sheriff camon I think you're
[59:07] gonna take that take it away Sheriff Mr
chair members of the board thank you for
[59:14] having me today and giving me a few
minutes to talk about this I think that
[59:17] the uh the board action narrative that's
in your packet sufficiently outlines
[59:23] what uh what I intend to do and and uh
the rationale for it um but I I do want
[59:31] to provide just a little bit of added
context and and a little bit of backdrop
[59:36] frame it up for you the decision making
process yeah explain to the public who's
[59:42] listening that have doesn't have the
background information that you provided
[59:46] to us uh what you try to do so there are
in in the law enforcement World there
[59:53] are typically as a Rel to Firearms
programs there are agency issued
[59:59] Firearms it's really common and employee
owned Firearms is also really comp and
[1:00:07] so there's really not a right or wrong
way to do it it's just agencies make
[1:00:14] decisions based on what seems to work
for them larger agencies typically have
[1:00:20] agency issued Firearms smaller agencies
typically are
[1:00:26] employee so looking at Carver County
going back to the 90s you might remember
[1:00:31] in the 80s and earlier cops all carried
revolvers around the late 80s early 90s
[1:00:38] then semi-automatic kind of became the
norm and and in caror County we had
[1:00:44] employee owned revolver semi owns I can
only go back to 1990 because that's when
[1:00:49] I started I I remember this um and so we
went went with that and we had employees
[1:00:55] who carried revolvers all through the
90s and Bud Olson was elected sheriff in
[1:01:00] 98 began his term in
1999 and and somewhere around the
[1:01:07] 2000s uh he drove the agency to get out
of the revolvers entirely and every
[1:01:15] employee uh or deputy sheriff would
carry a sem my auto we did some work
[1:01:20] internally and decided would be two
models
[1:01:25] from each of two manufacturers for a
total of four right Sheriff I hate to
[1:01:30] interrupt but some people don't know
what's the difference between a revolver
[1:01:34] and a semi-automatic yeah well I I
appreciate that uh you know um I'm not
[1:01:40] really sure how to explain it other than
one is a firearm that has a cylinder
[1:01:47] with bullets in it and as you pull the
trigger the cylinder rotates and
[1:01:52] presents the next like you movies like
you would see in the in the Spaghetti
[1:01:57] Westerns right and a semi-auto it feeds
the bullets from the bottom typically
[1:02:03] and as the slide comes back it ejects
the spent cartridge it loads a new
[1:02:07] cartridge and and you fire it it that
way um both basically have the same
[1:02:14] function though in so far as uh you know
there's the there's the grip end of it
[1:02:20] and there's the dangerous end of it and
pull the trigger bullets come out the
[1:02:23] dangerous that's that's a gross
simplification but to just help with
[1:02:28] that so so anyways going back um Sheriff
Olson drove bu Olson that is drove the
[1:02:35] policy to two
manufacturers two calibers of ammunition
[1:02:43] and um so that that narrowed it down
quite a bit for us and everybody was
[1:02:48] carrying semi-auto it was also Deputy
owned and well if you for those who work
[1:02:54] with bu and he really liked a freezed in
approach to things so he would set
[1:02:58] things out and it would take a couple of
years to get to the end game of
[1:03:02] everybody there but that was Bud's
methodology and it worked and and
[1:03:08] uh and so that's how we got to where we
are today with employee owned semi AAS
[1:03:14] now what happened over the years is
technology Chang manufacturers came out
[1:03:19] with different products uh employees
started to you know they like this
[1:03:24] firearm over that and and frankly
they're all pretty good Firearms it's a
[1:03:30] Chevy Ford Dodge pickup argument if you
ask me they're they're all pretty good
[1:03:35] today and
um
[1:03:40] we so because that happened and this was
over B Olson and Jim Sheriff Jim wison
[1:03:45] we started to add more firearms and add
more and more and more and the deputies
[1:03:49] were coming every year with oh we want
this and we want and so I made a a
[1:03:55] policy decision shortly after being
elected that I really just want to
[1:04:00] regulate the ammunition because
the that's the part that is the most
[1:04:07] concerning on the if there's a youth is
the ammunition that actually does the
[1:04:14] creates the wound cavity and and um
whatnot and it also then ended the
[1:04:21] argument of should I have a Chevy or
afford or you know pick your brand right
[1:04:28] and
um it also as we were recruiting one of
[1:04:34] the things that we hear when we hire new
employees is yeah great come work for us
[1:04:39] now you got to go buy this firearm that
they may not already own and so their
[1:04:44] startup cost to be a new employee is
over
[1:04:49] ,000 give or take depending upon which
make and model they choose
[1:04:54] and so that's a that's a little bit of a
a hit when when you're hiring um and so
[1:05:00] by allowing them to bring in a firearm
they Pro they may very well have already
[1:05:04] owned um and it opened up options on the
price scale too by adopting that policy
[1:05:11] U that seemed to be an okay solution at
the time so fast forward so 2022 is uh
[1:05:21] 2023 there there's the one of the more
common popular law enforcement
[1:05:28] firearms um is currently in litigation
over the firearm
[1:05:33] discharging um without operator input
and generally speaking when we H when we
[1:05:40] see an unintentional discharge we almost
always assume it's operator air and you
[1:05:47] know the gun doesn't go off unless your
unless your finger or something else
[1:05:51] pops the trigger right I mean that's
just the general mechanics of and
[1:05:58] um and so we left it at them said okay
they'll sort it out if it's a design
[1:06:02] flaw whatever it'll get sorted up and
then we started seeing videos on
[1:06:09] YouTube uh where it's this is actually a
pretty good video where a young woman
[1:06:13] it's a cop in somewhere in the south is
carrying her firearm she asserts
[1:06:20] bolstered in her Duty bag she's walking
through the the uh police parking lot
[1:06:26] and the firearm goes off in the back
shoots her in the
[1:06:29] pelvis um and it's the security camera
from the police parking lot is how we
[1:06:35] captured this or how they captured that
well she asserts it's in the holster
[1:06:42] everybody else says it couldn't have
been it wouldn't have happened I don't
[1:06:45] know it's under litigation there's 100
PL DS against the manufacturer so but it
[1:06:51] but because I saw this video of clearly
I mean you can see she's just carrying a
[1:06:54] bag and it goes off so that prompted me
to go all right well now what because I
[1:06:59] know more than half of our deputies
carry that particular
[1:07:04] model so I talked to a risk management
who consulted with
[1:07:09] mcit and mcit being risk averse
says well The Prudent action is to not
[1:07:17] allow fire okay fair enough now would so
I went to the um
[1:07:24] employee relations Mr Hemy and uh we
contacted the union because they're
[1:07:30] employee
owned we went and said look we we have
[1:07:35] this problem we're not interested in any
uh unintentional negligent discharges of
[1:07:40] these Firearms more than half of you
carry them uh and we made an offer to
[1:07:47] either provide uh early uniform
allowance because uniform allowance is
[1:07:52] paid in July
we said we would pay in January and you
[1:07:57] could use that money to purchase a new
firearm the idea is to get these out of
[1:08:01] our inventory and sooner than later or
alternatively we offered to provide an
[1:08:09] interest free loan where you will give
you the money go buy the firearm will
[1:08:14] withhold whatever the amount is out of
your check to get it paid off in 18
[1:08:18] months or whatever you agree to uh and
the
[1:08:22] union um
[1:08:27] declined I guess is how to say you know
there's uh in in their estimation there
[1:08:32] is no problem so big that it cannot be
resolved with giving their members more
[1:08:38] money and I didn't want to just hand
over money to the Union to the
[1:08:43] membership uh without getting even a a
if you're going to own it we're going to
[1:08:48] do it that was going to be a quick easy
S no added cost to the taxpayers
[1:08:55] and I I looked when they declined that
that prompted me to before I made that
[1:09:01] decision really look into it and decide
and and figure out where we were
[1:09:08] at so what I learned
is uh and you probably won't hear many
[1:09:13] elected officials uh make this admission
but the policy decision that I made to
[1:09:19] regulate ammunition and not makes in
models of
[1:09:22] firearms got away from me was probably
not the best decision I ever made and we
[1:09:28] looked at the numbers of firearms and
what they're carrying and the calibers
[1:09:32] and what that means for training uh
because now if if uh if I'm the Firearms
[1:09:39] instructor and and commissioner Workman
is having problems shooting or has a
[1:09:44] problem with the firearm now I kind of
have to learn how his firearm functions
[1:09:49] to help him get through this training
glitch or or whatever and so there's
[1:09:54] just some inefficiencies in there that
that I failed to anticipate but
[1:10:01] um still had the same issue with new
employees uh walking at the startup cost
[1:10:07] um because whether it's a, firearm or
$500 firearm still come work for us go
[1:10:15] spend your own money first um also I
have some employees who are proficient
[1:10:20] Shooters but they're swapping they're in
and out carrying this gun that gun
[1:10:24] uh periodically throughout the year
and I find that to be a problem
[1:10:31] so having that's what brings us here
today recognizing that we have an
[1:10:37] obligation to provide our deputies a
safe reliable firearm program looking to
[1:10:44] move to agency issued
Firearms um I think what it does is it
[1:10:49] standardizes the uniform equipment uh
issue sort of thing it standardizes the
[1:10:55] ammo purchase we currently buy three
different types of ammunition calibers
[1:11:01] that is 94045 or the three that we carry
we'll limit that to just one which
[1:11:08] creates some efficiencies and savings
because we're buy we always buy in bulk
[1:11:14] but when you buy more of one in the
bigger bulk it's gets a little bit
[1:11:17] cheaper um standardizes the maintenance
I you know I don't have uh a number that
[1:11:25] I can put on it but when if we all have
the same
[1:11:30] firearm I can have one or two employees
who are armors who are able to
[1:11:36] disassemble repair replace the the
typical parts that break I can do all
[1:11:41] that really easily inh housee when I
have eight 10 12 different manufacturers
[1:11:48] having people who are trained and
certified for all of those different
[1:11:52] manufacturers gets to be a little bit of
a glitch and um I don't really have an
[1:11:58] appetite to send them all out for third
party repairs uh Min uh minimize the
[1:12:06] startup cost for new employees I think
that's a pretty big deal uh retention
[1:12:10] for evident evidentiary purposes uh this
sounds silly and hopefully we don't ever
[1:12:15] have to do this but when an officer
involved is involved in a shooting and
[1:12:22] this person dies it's ruled a homicide
as a matter of
[1:12:28] routine we retain all evidence of
homicides
[1:12:33] forever we don't dispose of
it what I learned in a in a different
[1:12:39] officer involved shooting was we don't
have the lawful authority to do that
[1:12:45] with other people's property so the if
the employee
[1:12:51] says I want my firearm back we have to
give that to them I mean we could
[1:12:57] litigate it but we're going to lose is I
think is the direction the county if if
[1:13:01] the last case is an
indicator uh perhaps in a change in the
[1:13:06] law we're going to lose that and um I
think it's important to keep to retain
[1:13:13] that evidence
for
[1:13:18] uh you know for trials for defending
ourselves civil action but also you know
[1:13:25] save it forever in criminal cases
because of the appeals processes and uh
[1:13:30] you know the any allegations wrong F
Brit any of those sorts of things so
[1:13:37] um if we own the Firearms it's ours we
can take and put it on a
[1:13:43] shelf and so anyways um it eliminates
Arguments for increasing allowances uh
[1:13:51] in for uniform allowances to maintain
equipment one of the things we do is as
[1:13:55] we ask employees to add components like
this we there's a as technology improves
[1:14:03] there's a sighting system so we call it
a red dot sighting system basically it's
[1:14:07] a head up heads up display you look
through a loop and it there's a Red Dot
[1:14:12] in that Loop and once it's cited in
wherever that red dot is is where the
[1:14:16] bullet is going to go um pretty accurate
it's really fast it improves the
[1:14:21] shooting accuracy speed in proficiency
so we asked our employees to put that on
[1:14:27] well we're 500 bucks 300 bucks whatever
they are and of course the employees
[1:14:32] walk at having to add that even though
they have a generous uniform allowance
[1:14:38] they even done as argum to increase that
so um and it's a fair argument because
[1:14:43] it is an expensive thing so
[1:14:49] anyways all of that combined um I just
think that it it agency you know has to
[1:14:56] weigh these decisions personal Firearms
agency owned I think the there's no
[1:15:01] right answer um but it's a judgment call
and in my judgment I think we are best
[1:15:08] served through agency Firearms now that
was a long way to get to I'm asking for
[1:15:15] in the board in the the RBA
$992,000 to uh from and it's there's a
[1:15:21] typo in here it's actually 20 22 year
end savings we don't know what 2023 is
[1:15:26] yet because we're only the second day
into this year it hasn't been
[1:15:32] calculated um but I'm asking for the
board to approve the funding from that
[1:15:37] piece which gives me some budgetary
flexibility in
[1:15:41] 2024 and with that stand for S questions
for the sheriff Mr CH a couple question
[1:15:49] CH I learned a lot I guess I'm guessing
the audience did as well I didn't I
[1:15:52] didn't know a lot of that so thanks for
the history thanks also as a leader that
[1:15:55] says I might not got it right and now
you're getting it right that's rare
[1:16:00] three questions one what happens the old
guns um two um the replacement cost is
[1:16:05] that something we should budget and plan
for and three if this is typically a
[1:16:09] bucket that comes out of the uniform are
we able to pull back dollars associated
[1:16:13] with that because we'll now be
Furnishing the firearm uh three
[1:16:17] different questions no excellent
question so uh the Firearms currently in
[1:16:22] play are employee owned and so they
would continue to own them and and they
[1:16:28] can do whatever they choose with with
those Firearms
[1:16:33] um this there was one about the pulling
back I I think that you know that's a
[1:16:39] the the uniform allowance is a
collective bargaining issue um and I
[1:16:45] think that would be something we would
have to have that that the negotiating T
[1:16:49] how that's going to shake out uh you
know I don't I don't believe
[1:16:53] then the plan for replacement costs and
then the the plan for replacement costs
[1:16:58] um you know yes we will have to have uh
some of that built in I would anticipate
[1:17:04] we would work with uh Mr Hemy and Mr
frisman to build a plan not unlike we do
[1:17:11] for radios where we look at what the
what we expect the life expectancy to be
[1:17:16] and then we just uh squirrel away a
little bit
[1:17:21] annually to to build that and roll it
year over-ear until we are on the
[1:17:25] replacement schedule what is a typical
replacement and my understanding is is a
[1:17:29] lot of firearms hold their value at
least maybe even increase is there is
[1:17:33] there a notion that this is a break even
so the newer models actually cost less
[1:17:37] than their yeah you know they're um
they're not uh the price of them is not
[1:17:43] a budget Buster sorts of things they do
hold their value it's all it's a common
[1:17:47] practice to upon retirement sell the
firearm to the employee who will take it
[1:17:53] with them um like badges are another one
that's kind of a common
[1:17:59] practice um I don't know what the
retention or what the the longevity is I
[1:18:05] mean they last a long time uh I
mean you know my my dad has all of my
[1:18:12] granddad's firearms and it's you know
from years and years ago uh I think
[1:18:18] what's more likely to happen in this
circumstance is um
[1:18:24] technology um is going to drive that and
so they will likely be cycled out more
[1:18:29] so because of
[1:18:33] changes because of the AG is wearing
Care thank you other questions for the
[1:18:38] sherff Mr
chair thank you Sheriff definitely very
[1:18:42] thorough and the information is there um
are the deputies on board with this
[1:18:48] change you know that's that's hit or
miss and that's a great question Mr Hemy
[1:18:52] and I have talked about that quite a bit
because we've worked very hard to uh
[1:18:56] keep the the work group happy and um you
know we're going to have some employees
[1:19:03] who are
uh just married to that whatever they
[1:19:11] have it's they bought it because they
like it probably and um but I also have
[1:19:17] some employees who have just flat out
said if I wasn't a cop I wouldn't own a
[1:19:22] hand income and the only and so they
would be happy to receive it um you know
[1:19:30] that the policy has not been finalized
yet I think that uh as I look I there's
[1:19:40] a while there is agency issued and
employee issued there's always the the
[1:19:44] hybrid model there are some agencies who
here's the here's the firearm that we
[1:19:49] issue if you want your own under policy
here are the approved models
[1:19:58] and it would be but then through policy
it's up to you to own it maintain it we
[1:20:03] assume no responsibility for fixing it
we a spring breaks or the extractor
[1:20:08] breaks or any of those sorts of things
that's on you and uh you know I haven't
[1:20:12] ruled that out yet as a as a policy
decision so we're going to approve the
[1:20:19] agency issued handguns and and the polic
is going to come after well you're
[1:20:25] approving the money uh you you might
recall sir that the the setting
[1:20:30] Sheriff's Office policy is the sheriff's
responsibility your responsibility
[1:20:34] relates to the budgeting and so I I'm
looking and what this does is it gives
[1:20:41] me the flexibility I'm going to do this
um in 2024 what I would like to be able
[1:20:49] to do is use money from 2022 year and to
do
[1:20:54] that thank you any other
questions commissioner Lynch um great
[1:21:01] great thorough um my my first I think he
answered it already but normally when
[1:21:07] someone leaves employment you usually
sell it to the individual or or you just
[1:21:11] turned it in what what is it uh agencies
we haven't decided what we're going to
[1:21:17] do yet because we don't do this um some
agencies upon retirement will allow the
[1:21:23] person to purchase the firearm and take
it with him a three-year employee um
[1:21:29] would be expected to return the firearm
okay and then to Gail's question about a
[1:21:34] revolver or semi-automatic and the
sheriff was very accurate it's a
[1:21:38] cylinder that spins around but there was
a shootout in
[1:21:42] Florida an FBI shootout and that's why
the revolver is very difficult to reload
[1:21:48] whereas a semi-automatic uh you slap a
new magazine into it it could SP quick
[1:21:53] that's why they switched over to that
um I think JP had a great question but
[1:22:00] um my only question is do you really
want to go there because you're going to
[1:22:03] have some push back because when you get
a a cops coming all different sizes
[1:22:09] people shoot 9 millimeters and 45 and
just get used to what you have um you're
[1:22:14] not going to be have a happy person
who's a Avid 45 shooter who's going to
[1:22:19] have to shoot a 9 millimeter now but
it's it's a your decision sir I would uh
[1:22:24] I can see the advantages of having
everything all the
[1:22:28] same yeah I and I appreciate that and
those arguments are not lost on me what
[1:22:34] uh what I have found is that those who
are average 45 Shooters and are good at
[1:22:39] it they're pretty good with 9
millimeters and 40s and 357 and they
[1:22:44] figure it out right and uh um I look at
you know agency issued firearms are the
[1:22:53] norm um with you know let's use the
military they got people all different
[1:22:58] shapes and sizes and uh and they pull it
off and but you know and that is uh part
[1:23:04] of the reason I'm looking at the Hybrid
model of policy is because there there
[1:23:11] will be people who have uh you know
perhaps smaller than you know the
[1:23:16] Firearms are generally manufactured for
averages right and you might have people
[1:23:20] smaller than average hands
it just doesn't fit for them so I have
[1:23:24] to have a workable program for them but
I'm trying to get back get it contained
[1:23:31] because as I pointed out
earlier it it just it just got away from
[1:23:37] me when Sheriff uh couple anybody else
have a question if not I'll wrap it up
[1:23:43] here um when is this policy going to
take effect if we approve this to you
[1:23:50] yeah well um would you get these well
it's a you know Supply Chain's an issue
[1:23:55] right so we'll have to see to get all of
the components um we would have to buy
[1:24:01] the the firearms and and all the
components that go along with it um and
[1:24:07] then we have to have a training program
for that so that we can get people
[1:24:14] trained up to this
firearm um you know it'll it'll take the
[1:24:19] better part of this year to do that okay
management and is this just the
[1:24:24] beginning you're talking fire handguns
now uh how about rifles and whatever are
[1:24:30] their agency issued rifles and stuff
shotguns excellent question and uh we do
[1:24:36] have
um the fire the handgun is the
[1:24:43] only defensive weapon that we do not
provide the employee we provide them
[1:24:49] with their chemicals their batons the
taser the the rifle uh we just
[1:24:58] we we provide every other weapon and the
holsters and all that stuff that goes
[1:25:04] along with it um just not the handgun
and
[1:25:11] uh you know I can't speak to to how or
why that is I I do want to make one
[1:25:16] point of clarification though to make
sure that people understand that the
[1:25:21] policy to open up the the
Firearms was uh is not what is totally
[1:25:28] driving this and was not at an added
cost to any it's just when I looked at
[1:25:34] this whole thing in the
totality you just learned some things
[1:25:41] that how it how the policy impacts
hiring how the the numbers got a little
[1:25:46] bit out of control I'm trying to shrink
that back down a little bit and so
[1:25:50] there's it's the totality of the
circumstances not just one issue and
[1:25:55] this is all public knowledge but I don't
think you actually mentioned what
[1:26:00] revolver are we looking at um is this
something that you want the public to
[1:26:05] know what our Deputy of the carrying
around or not sure the intention is to
[1:26:10] go with with a a Glock 459 millimeter I
know that sounds weird because 45 also
[1:26:17] happens to be a caliber but it's the
Glock model 45 in
[1:26:23] 9mm and uh little bit of trivia for you
Glock when they make a new
[1:26:31] firearm apply calls the model
sequentially with their patent numbers
[1:26:37] so this is the 45th Glock patent if
anybody
[1:26:41] cares and just a little have for Trivial
Pursuit somay is Glock an American uh
[1:26:48] product it's an Austrian made firearm
that is is uh very common in law
[1:26:54] enforcement and military service
globally commission Workman well Mr
[1:26:59] chairman I think more importantly what
is the firearm that didn't want to
[1:27:05] behave and kind of caused this I think
important to the public is that readily
[1:27:11] available uh it is it it is a uh 6our
P320 is the the firearm and the model
[1:27:20] and I want to be very clear on this
point that it is it's an allegation it's
[1:27:25] in litigation sigar is saying there is
no problem with the firearm the 100 uh
[1:27:32] plaintiffs are asserting that there is I
don't know there's a question mark next
[1:27:38] to it there is not a question mark
adjacent to any of the designs
[1:27:43] of the other models that are currently
in use in
[1:27:48] in I think we all learned more way more
about revolvers and Firearms than I ever
[1:27:54] anticipated but I appreciate you all
reminding me that I am for
[1:28:00] BS with that we're looking for a motion
second motion by commissioner Workman
[1:28:06] second by commissioner rudderman to
approve the fundings for the purchase of
[1:28:10] agency issued handguns and accessories
any more commissioner work well Mr
[1:28:15] chairman I need motion I'm I'm all for
this uh but I will not
[1:28:21] uh take any phone calls from deputies
who don't want to drive a Dodge
[1:28:26] rate what nobody so noted sheriff and
County
[1:28:33] attorney any more discussion all in
favor of the motion say I I any opposed
[1:28:40] seeing none the motion passes
unanimous thank you oh sure before you
[1:28:46] go um it was in the paper are we going
to have to spend more money changing our
[1:28:52] logos on your patches because the state
feel and State uh flag might change well
[1:29:00] you know it's it's funny to mention
we've been talking about that internally
[1:29:03] about what this impact is to us because
uh our badges support the state seal our
[1:29:10] shoulder patches do we have things like
that in throughout our office uh the uh
[1:29:17] the lettering on our squad
cars has the badge with the state SE and
[1:29:22] so it we will absolutely if they make
the change um prompt us
[1:29:29] to look at all of those sorts of things
unintensive consequences always B we'll
[1:29:36] sort that out once the legislature gets
done with it thank you Sheriff thank you
[1:29:41] with that it brings us to
9.2 uh creating a Communications
[1:29:46] Department Mr Nick kavi our assistant
County Administrator Nick uh good
[1:29:52] morning Mr chair and
Commissioners
[1:30:08] your see Justin can you pull it up on
the
[1:30:20] screen
we got some time Tom you can run down
[1:30:25] Dodge Rams some
more the sheriff just bought one
[1:30:39] after this brings up another fact that
we're gonna be changing some of our Audi
[1:30:43] visual correct
Tech Yeah March can't come soon enough
[1:30:51] right H should we take a five minute I
think
[1:30:57] he all right well thank you again Mr
chair and Commissioners I'm here today
[1:31:01] to talk about the creation of a
Communications Department within our
[1:31:06] Public Services Division this has been a
little while in the coming uh I've been
[1:31:10] working on many different plans on how
to fill a vacancy and looking forward on
[1:31:16] how we can best serve uh Carver County
residents really the goals of this uh
[1:31:21] change are three uh one is to enhance
overall County
[1:31:26] communications one uh the second is to
Foster consistency and communication
[1:31:31] across our
organization then the third is to
[1:31:34] leverage a higher level of expertise in
communication
[1:31:39] strategy with that uh the main item I'm
proposing today is to elevate the
[1:31:45] currently vacing Communications manager
position that was held by Eric
[1:31:49] previously to the chief Communications
officer to manage this new Department
[1:31:55] within public services division other
Staffing would include two new positions
[1:32:00] that were included in the and approved
in the 2024 budget that includes the
[1:32:06] part-time communication specialist and
then a full-time communication
[1:32:09] specialist within the public uh works
department two existing employees would
[1:32:16] also report to this department that
would be the Public Works communication
[1:32:20] manager that's Sarah position currently
and then the planning and water
[1:32:25] management senior Outreach and
engagement specialist That's mine's
[1:32:29] position for
reference today's request does not
[1:32:34] increase the total FTE allocation what
I'm looking to do is to elevate one of
[1:32:39] the existing positions all the other
ones are currently approved in the
[1:32:42] budget it actually slightly decreases
because I'm looking to our stock funding
[1:32:50] for this so overall wanted it would
slightly decrease that t allocation but
[1:32:55] again within this area of more moving
things around an elevating
[1:32:59] position so with that elevating of the
position from the communications manager
[1:33:03] to a chief Communications officer that
has a fiscal impact of an increase of
[1:33:10] $3,841
79 with that I am providing funding
[1:33:15] options within the Public Services
Division this includes $122,000 for my
[1:33:20] Professional Services
line the reason for that that I'm
[1:33:25] proposing that is we have not utilized
those funds in several years
[1:33:29] historically some of those funds have
been used for Architects and space
[1:33:33] planning but since we did a massive
space plan my thinking is we won't need
[1:33:37] those funds going forward then also some
of those funds include cable casting and
[1:33:42] with our am upgrade we're going to be
bringing that cable casting service in
[1:33:47] house once we have that upgrade made so
there'll be some cost savings there as
[1:33:51] well
in addition I've proposing
[1:33:54] $715 to come from the facility stock
stock is seasonal temporary
[1:34:00] onf if you remember earlier last year we
did a reor within facilities this $
[1:34:07] 7,155 was the savings for that we put
that in stock to hold that for future we
[1:34:14] were thinking maybe getting a seasonal
at this time I don't think we'll utilize
[1:34:17] those funds so I propose that we utilize
them for this instead
[1:34:22] then the last one is a extension stock
with
[1:34:25] $468
79 if you remember several years ago we
[1:34:30] had two admin support staff within uh
extension we reduced that down to one as
[1:34:37] part of that budget move we move some
funds to the stock budget that way if
[1:34:42] that person's off on vacation or needs
extra help we can utilize uh those funds
[1:34:48] for that looking at historic Trends we
haven't been using all those funds so my
[1:34:53] propos propos us to take some of those
funds and to utilize it to help P this
[1:34:58] position for this
change so with that Mr chair my uh
[1:35:04] recommendation is a motion to create a
Communications Department of Public
[1:35:08] Services eliminate the vacant 1.0 FTE
Communications manager create a new 1.0
[1:35:14] FTE Chief Communications officer and
approve the associated budget amendment
[1:35:19] request
form any questions for Mr kabi Mr chair
[1:35:25] m i I think this is the right move I
think it's an indication of the growth
[1:35:28] of our County and and stepping into the
next area I know that you spent a lot of
[1:35:32] time in diligence looking at this one of
those being you know is it a competitive
[1:35:36] wage should track the right candidate so
I appreciate all the effort on it I know
[1:35:40] that um particularly in lyndon's group
there's a lot of money spent to let the
[1:35:43] public know tell our story right what
are we doing how are we doing it I know
[1:35:45] chasa just went through a significant
amount of that and it's hard to measure
[1:35:49] that savings you know like when when the
community is engaged and they're not you
[1:35:54] know pounding your front desk with a
bunch of calls because they're proactive
[1:35:57] is there a way that um that we can make
this partially unfunded by Levy by way
[1:36:03] of billing it back to a road project or
billing it back to a different
[1:36:07] project you know I defer to L I can't
remember it's part of the exting sales
[1:36:12] is coming from the sales
ta okay s's this but like the can we do
[1:36:17] a part just make sure we get this on uh
yeah yeah could you please come up
[1:36:22] explain how the public work some of that
is maybe would you practi pay for the
[1:36:27] chief Communications officer I guess is
the question oh right yeah I know that
[1:36:32] Mr chair Commissioners that the new
position funded in 24
[1:36:36] specialist that one is funded with Road
and Bridge CIP funds okay as well as
[1:36:41] cers as you know okay yeah so like net I
think the taxpayers are getting a better
[1:36:45] at a benefit and they're not paying the
full cost of it I mean directly through
[1:36:48] Levy guess that's the point thank you
lynon um the other things I kind of
[1:36:52] wanted to point out when we looked at
goals we had talked about it in work
[1:36:55] session um uh in
June I think this role is partially to
[1:36:59] help promote a robust Talent pipeline
too we Face a lot of headwinds and tell
[1:37:04] our story as a community two years ago
um we hosted the first um rural or out
[1:37:10] outstate um cver County Commerce
Corridor to where through greater MSP in
[1:37:15] Greater MSP the number one
recommendation they said was is tell
[1:37:18] your story because part of our story is
we don't tell our story much because
[1:37:22] we're the ASU kind of County folks but I
also think that through um our strategy
[1:37:27] documents um we said well it look like
for this first thing for this person to
[1:37:31] do is to take a look at telling our
story particularly to an audience of
[1:37:35] Juniors that may be considering where
they're going to go to work in the
[1:37:37] future and telling the story Cross
functionally of collectively what do we
[1:37:41] do as a county um so so promoting a
robust Talent pipeline um I I think is
[1:37:47] part of the goals as well so fully
support this I think it's a step in the
[1:37:50] right direction other counties and
cities are doing the same and they're
[1:37:53] seeing huge benefit from it so thanks
for the work on it any other questions
[1:37:57] for
Nick if not is there a motion move
[1:38:02] approval as requested uh to fund um the
chief Communications office I think
[1:38:07] it'll be first in our history um it's a
good way to kick off uh
[1:38:12] 2024 um and the funding associated with
it a motion by commissioner rman is
[1:38:17] there a second
second second by commissioner any other
[1:38:23] discussion all in favor of the motion
say I I any oppos seeing
[1:38:30] none passes unanimous commissioner Lynch
I can make the motion to recesses the
[1:38:35] cver County Board and conen K County
Regional railroad Authority is there a
[1:38:40] second second that motion by
commissioner ly second myself to uh
[1:38:47] enter into the regional rail Authority
uh any discussion all in favor of that
[1:38:52] motion say I I anybody opposed seeing
none motion passes
[1:38:58] unanimously uh at this point Mr hamy
what do we have to do as a regional
[1:39:03] rail uh new packet last
[1:39:08] page page 8 sorry
53 uh we just basically have to appoint
[1:39:15] uh chair a vice chair and a secretary
treasury typically Mr chair it's G down
[1:39:20] to the RO this
way I don't think there's I think it's
[1:39:24] more of a statutory obligation and the
chair Vice
[1:39:28] chair guide the meetings hearing the
request is there such a
[1:39:35] motion uh so move Mr chair second motion
by commissioner Lynch seconded by
[1:39:40] commissioner F to appoint the chair Vice
chair and secretary treasurer as Mr memy
[1:39:45] mentioned just going down the line on
the board here uh any discussion yeah uh
[1:39:51] we do need a secretary treasurer that
would be the third person okay I just
[1:39:55] want to clarify I'm not sure there's any
official duties
[1:39:59] [Music]
withens as long as Diana is breathing
[1:40:04] we're
okay uh all in favor of the motion say I
[1:40:10] I oppos motion carries unanimously there
a motion to adjourn as a regional rail
[1:40:16] so move second motion by commissioner
Lynch second by commissioner F to to
[1:40:21] adjourn as a regional rail Authority and
reconvene as the County Board any
[1:40:26] discussion on that all in favor of that
motion say I I oppose motion carries
[1:40:32] with that we turn over to Mr Hemy for
the county administrative report yeah
[1:40:37] thank you Mr chair next week 7:30 a.m.
Tuesday the legislative
[1:40:42] breakfast uh you bump into any of our
reps remind them so far only Senator
[1:40:48] Coleman representative brag and harder
and make council member Barber and
[1:40:55] Legislative Assistant for Emer have said
they're going to be there so if you
[1:40:59] could shake bushes a little bit to see
these
[1:41:02] folks let them know Dian maybe we could
send out one final reminder I think
[1:41:07] we've sent out at least two three uh but
we'll see you there so same format as as
[1:41:14] as Year's breakfast at the American
730 that's it Mr chair okay with that is
[1:41:21] there a motion to enter into Clos
session to discuss
[1:41:25] confidential settlement negotiations for
the purchase of real property for
[1:41:29] Highway 212 project in Venton Township
pursu to Minnesota statute section 13
[1:41:36] d05 subsection 3 C and related p number
[1:41:49] 404447
is there a motion to go into close
[1:41:53] session for that purpose so Mo motion by
commissioner Lynch second by
[1:41:57] commissioner udman going to close
session all in favor of the motion say I
[1:42:03] I close we are going into close
[1:42:10] session minute
break yeah we'll take a three minute
[1:42:14] break to get set
[1:42:18] up you know if the video is working uh
we'll have to
[1:42:23] see
okay
[1:42:39] maybe still got the r this here think
[1:42:49] can that
isn't City ofia doing some extensive
[1:42:53] stuff there too
yeah they'll be midd and overlay each
[1:42:58] end of it too so
from roundabout at cor Park South all
[1:43:05] the way
up Well Trail
[1:43:19] Gap
[1:43:32] what's next
[1:43:44] [Music]
here just stay away from the six hours I
[1:43:52] I have a got Springfields I
never crossed over to the blocks
[1:44:02] but the guys shoot
[1:44:08] 45 here there I
mean you mentioned the military has the
[1:44:13] same
[1:44:19] gun
[1:44:29] F three
[1:44:49] boards
[1:45:01] was in
[1:45:13] Afghanistan pull out of that really
[1:45:19] stupid
[1:45:27] [Music]
[1:45:37] yes get
[1:45:49] a
[1:45:56] it's kind of cool how many books did
[1:46:06] you yeah land
[1:46:13] that's did you ask if that get fired
[1:46:19] up him can more
than any
[1:46:24] military guys in Special
Forces have
[1:46:31] deal
[1:46:35] bege we can go from music training right
into s foress training and the guys who
[1:46:43] have to wait five six years to get
Sergeant before they get try out that's
[1:46:49] trainers I know
[1:47:01] still there
[1:47:09] aoke I
one
[1:47:13] yeah you talking about Navy
[1:47:19] Seals
[1:47:37] this
close said
[1:47:42] hey
[1:47:49] urgent
[1:48:06] there's a book it's about Roy bone it's
called first seal and he was in dur the
[1:48:12] Cuban missing Christ he was in cubba
twice and he was the most advaned person
[1:48:16] you ever seen in your life he said that
your
[1:48:20] team is much more important than your
family so you can always get bu more
[1:48:32] kidsus
[1:48:38] [Music]
[1:48:46] fathered was
like
[1:48:51] [Music]
[1:49:12] next year they'll save I don't have two
wives I don't need two next next here he
[1:49:21] married a Jersey girl this isn't going
to go
[1:49:26] well this I brought I bought my wife a
air
[1:49:32] dryer was like $300 I've never heard
[1:49:38] such know how much my fishing stuff is
ridiculous that's true she uses that
[1:49:45] every day you
use 10
[1:49:48] 20 about how many
[1:49:54] success
right I'm going to like w by Wednesday
[1:49:59] so wish me luck they have ice and stay
above yeah
[1:50:06] they famous last words up there you need
to be careful right now are you gonna
[1:50:11] bring a rubber rubber raft with yeah
right now you sound like my wife spear
[1:50:18] work with the rubber R is CH isn't
this I uh I watched a guy fishing with a
[1:50:24] boat in Buffalo yesterday so yeah they
fishing on like they're always
[1:50:32] biast Northeast
by
[1:50:41] we this year my son bought a house he
got special rods reels
[1:50:49] yeah dish
[1:50:53] binder
on be the
[1:50:58] bottom he was up in Grand Rapids I
saw small
[1:51:05] leg said don't
any already been on Red Lake see they
[1:51:13] had 40 people 100
rescue well where where's the ice flow
[1:51:19] go there's safe on the ice flow right
just move it across the leg unless you
[1:51:23] jump in a canoe try it back until the
question is when the ice breaks off do
[1:51:27] you keep fishing nve and you're
[Music]
[1:51:34] trolling green trolling you got to
change your
[1:51:46] gear worst part is you need to leave
your GE
[1:51:53] they don't take it because you're
jumping back in the boat you get you
[1:51:55] know you can't bring your sled they're
not your gear so it's all litter in the
[1:52:00] lake you can go back and get it up again
but then you got to cross into the
[1:52:06] reservation what how's that
work it blows across to the South the
[1:52:10] upper
[1:52:13] half gear you're never going to see it
again plus it's on eBay or then Dave's
[1:52:20] life's really going to be mad you want
two hair
[1:52:25] dryers I want to ask my insurance agent
[1:52:32] discovered having trouble back here no
I'm we were sitting at uh HS on Round
[1:52:40] Lake by
hayry we were inside having dinner and
[1:52:45] drinks and here comes these five yucks
when they're ATV
[1:52:50] right up to the beach they get off and
they all start
[1:52:56] walking and all the people in the bar
going I don't know
[1:53:02] taking
[1:53:06] five come on in order the Walley
[1:53:11] sandwich went
[1:53:16] dice one year we were sitting how' you
get out
[1:53:20] well you don't sink right away to the
bottom so snow wheel floats if you're
[1:53:26] able to crawl out in the ice then go
through the marsh and stop at a house
[1:53:30] and warm up but shocking that she won't
ride a snow with
[1:53:36] anymore the snowmobile out we had to
hire a company snowmobile floats you
[1:53:41] said for a little while yeah wasn't too
deep there but it was 10 below that day
[1:53:47] too didn't she carried him on her back
just crying the whole
[1:53:53] way did she say you really know how to
treat a girl yeah it's been eight years
[1:53:58] since she's been on a snowm with
me we were up up years some near quite
[1:54:04] but we're standing near around Lake
haward on the edge sort of the edge of
[1:54:09] the lake and for some reason we're
stopped where we going to go
[1:54:12] next we're we're basically standing
around this snowmobile the back
[1:54:18] end goes like this in the lake hung up
on the
[1:54:23] skis you know we had a couple of
Pops it's pointing straight up in the
[1:54:31] air and we aned her out but this little
piece of ice just
[1:54:35] went you didn't get wet back in not the
motor I mean
[1:54:41] you no just the back end of
[1:54:48] the
there was a b big
[1:54:52] old
[1:54:56] that old guy yeah we do a job we got we
could sit by the door we
[1:55:03] started that they're supposed to float I
thought they were supposed to FL but I
[1:55:07] don't think these do I don't know I I
haven't heard the final
[1:55:12] story well they have they added a I mean
these things are built uh 40s 50s they
[1:55:18] added airbags to the front and back but
20 years ago there was like three PE
[1:55:21] three or four people died yeah so then
they're they're supposed to float after
[1:55:24] I thought that's what they tell you
should be recording okay oh we're in the
[1:55:29] clot session this is January 2nd
2024 we're talking about
[1:55:35] um real property in Highway 212 project
bent Township pursued to Minnesota
[1:55:42] statute 13 D5 SE subsection C on the
parcel number 40
[1:55:53] 44470
point I guess uh I'm Gail degler County
[1:56:00] Board John py County Board Tim Lynch
County Board udman County Board on
[1:56:05] County Board Josh we outside Council
assistant with the acquisition front r w
[1:56:11] is the RightWay agent for the
property director Darren milky Deputy
[1:56:18] County engineer Ms County attorney he
County Administrator take it away
[1:56:24] Darren we to bring it up on the screen
too if not we're have to do a lot of
[1:56:30] descriptive uh what would make you think
that just might not be able to do it
[1:56:33] we'll try we'll try our best but we'll
give him a give him a chance to bring it
[1:56:37] up but I'll give an overview so um
Highway 212 project um this is the next
[1:56:41] phase Final Phase I guess for now um