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Uh, good evening again. I'd like to call
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the community the whole for the village
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of Kerry on September 1st, 2026 to order
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with roll call, please.
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» Kier
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» Here.
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» Dudac.
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» McCalpine
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» Here.
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» Pina
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» Here.
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» Stefani [clears throat]
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» Here.
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» Walworth
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» Here.
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» Kick,
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» I'm here. Please join me again for the
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pledge of
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» Allegiance
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to the flag of the
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nationy
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and justice for all.
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» Thank you. Now moving to the public
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comments where the public is invited to
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address the community whole on any issue
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other than what's on the the agenda. I
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had nobody sign in. Is there somebody
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else would like to come up and
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fill in? Okay. Thank you. We'll go ahead
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and close uh public comment at 6:32.
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Uh we have a couple things on the
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agenda. Well, one really one big one. Uh
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talk about our economic development
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discussion about how we get to where we
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are. So I'm going to turn this over to
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our community development department.
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» Uh thank you, mayor. Uh this the
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presentation this evening, I'm going to
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let Dan Gardner, our economic
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development specialist, do most of the
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speaking this evening. Um, happy to
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answer your questions that the board may
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have, but uh, really just wanted to give
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a overview of kind of the operations
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that we do within the community
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development department uh, from an
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economic development standpoint. Um,
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won't get into specifics on sites in the
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conversation or discussion, but just
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really want to give a high level
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overview as far as the actions and
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activities that we take. Um, but
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certainly happy to answer questions that
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the board may have as well as the
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presentation goes on. Um, so with that,
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I'll turn the presentation over to Dan
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uh Gardner for uh an overview of kind of
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uh the operations that we do and then
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again happy to answer any questions.
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» Great. Thank you everyone. I know these
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conversations have been we have these
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conversations kind of ongoing throughout
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the year, but thought it would be
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helpful to touch on it and go through
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kind of a
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kind of a review of the process and kind
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of some of the things that we're working
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on uh and how things operate. for those
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that uh are familiar with the process.
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Uh I know most of you are, but again,
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it's a it's a great opportunity to walk
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through things. Uh and really what I
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think a lot of people don't realize is
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economic development gets uh spoken to
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as as like it's a thing. Uh and it's an
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ongoing process uh that goes from an
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iterative starting point and it really
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never ends because you're always trying
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to retain businesses. You're always
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trying to make sure that businesses have
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what they need and at the same time
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you're trying to recruit new businesses
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uh address and target uh evolving
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markets and find those fits that work
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best for the community. uh and
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underlying that is that uh the village
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can influence a process but it doesn't
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control every decision point. Uh so
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working from identifying a business a
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business a developer uh opportunity uh
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and sometimes that works the other way
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around. they identify us or they've
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identified a market and we fall into
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their target and then we operate with
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trying to maximize that opportunity and
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it's it's strategic in being in the
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right place and recognizing when those
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opportunities come. Uh they're they
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don't always pound on the door. uh you
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have to recognize when things are
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revolving and identify who some of the
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active businesses are and developments
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and what some of the trends are. Uh and
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then that that's on the recruiting side.
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Uh and then it's you know you can have
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all the market potential in the world if
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you don't have the right sites. Uh
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that's an issue. So you can have market
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capacity but you don't have the physical
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capacity but then you're also going to
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have physical capacity but there's no
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market for what you're trying to
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achieve. So those two things kind of
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work hand in hand. I've always said that
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there's the capacities go from market
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capacity, financial capacity. There's
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the economic capacity to actually make
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it happen and financial capacity and
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then there's community capacity too. Is
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it something the community wants to see?
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So is it a fit on all four of those
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fronts? Uh working with property owners
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and brokers. Uh this is key because it's
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not always village controlled property.
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more often than not, it's not. So, being
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able to work directly with the brokers
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and the property owners uh to align
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expectations is key, and I'll get into
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that a little bit more as we go through.
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Feasibility, as I said, the feasibility
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of development. Uh it's it's the
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construction costs. It's whether or not
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the numbers work from a operational
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standpoint. Is there enough revenue? Is
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the land cost aligned with the
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investment? uh the residual land value
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that's left over after doing the the
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project. Is that is that in align and
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the due diligence that most developers
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and a lot of businesses go through a
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painfully slow process of due diligence
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and sometimes that due diligence goes in
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fits and starts and sometimes it it
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escalates and then it u it doesn't
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really result in a project. But that due
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diligence period uh is pretty much with
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any kind of development. Uh then once
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you get through that, you have the
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entitlement process. Then you're going
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through all the entitlements through
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whether it's through the village, the
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regulatory issues, uh the getting their
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financing align, getting things closed.
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Uh and then you finally have the opening
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of an actual project coming to fruition.
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Uh I said business and and developers uh
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typically are evaluating multiple sites.
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So carry falling within
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usually a larger market area. Those
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multiple sites uh could be within the
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region. It could be within, you know, a
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couple different neighboring
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communities, but typically with some
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exceptions, it's not a target where it's
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specific to a municipality. Uh private
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property pricing, timing, seller
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expectations, uh all these can determine
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whether a deal advances or not. And many
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of the prospects, as I said, spent
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months in this process through financial
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and corporate due diligence and
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environmental assessment. I want to just
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talk about a couple things that dovetail
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into other slides, but it's important to
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highlight here as much as anywhere uh of
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where this has actually come to fruition
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here. Uh the season to carry project, we
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had that site targeted for a long time.
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was in a comprehensive plan. U at that
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time one of the uh recommendations was
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you know commercial and commercial
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development was uh kind of any any plan
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you know that's more than 10 years old
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was pretty much identifying any corridor
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as being commercial and then the market
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started evolving to residential or some
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mixed use. Uh but we
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were looking at the Damish property as
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it was you know I think everybody will
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still think of that as the damage
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property. Um I spoke to Mr. Damish on a
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number of occasions. U long
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conversations of you know what what are
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you thinking of doing? Where where is it
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going? And and that's about as far as a
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lot of the conversations would go. And
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just like with many property owners and
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and businesses and brokers, I I check in
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regularly and I would check in and then
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that process started to evolve. Uh they
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listed it with a broker, a national
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broker, uh went out on a test in a
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pretty big net, landed uh several
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developers that were interested in the
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property. Some didn't match our
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expectations. Uh let them know that what
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our expectations were. Um and that
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included keeping the frontage and 31
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uh fiduciary the ultimately the
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developer came in. We sat in the
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conference room here in a first meeting
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like we did with a lot of people uh and
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in frankly that we the conversation we
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had with them at the groundbreaking
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fairly recently was they were in fact
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identifying other locations that weren't
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in Kerry. But one of the things that
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stuck out to them was our our
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relationship and our rapport that we had
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with them and our willingness to work
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with them uh and and the fairness that
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they saw in that process. Uh and we've
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heard that from a number of people
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restaurant use that we're working with
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right now and I can't name it because
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they've asked to remain uh discreet
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until they go through this due
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diligence. But when the woman uh who is
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the uh site selection person and the
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operator sat with us, she pointed out to
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us that we were the only ones that were
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continually responsive to her. Uh and
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that was that tipped the scale for it.
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And it can be just that little thing
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that you don't even realize at the time
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u is important to that business that
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attention. If you're going to get that
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attention when I'm not in the community,
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I can imagine what I'm going to be like
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when I'm here. and what kind of
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community I'm dealing with. And that's
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what uh we were told and that that means
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a lot to us and it really respects uh
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reflects uh everybody here. It's not
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just me taking credit for this is
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everybody here is here every day. Brian
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fielding the calls uh on a zoning
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question uh and being responsive to it
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uh can make the difference in getting a
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a project or not. And in that effect
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too, going back to the damaged property,
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you know, from a standpoint, that site
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was created and annexed the village 25
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years ago plus. U so the timing that it
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took to get that site developed wasn't
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anything that the village could in sense
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force because the property owner wasn't
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willing to sell the property for so
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long. Um but having those relationships
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with the property owner um and Dan
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having uh conversations with them as
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well. We relayed kind of what the
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interest was from the village, what our
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planning guidance was uh from the
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comprehensive plan, the route 31 plan um
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to speak towards what type of
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development the village was open to in
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that area. And eventually when the
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property owner did list the property,
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you know, there was that vision was
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already there for the site. Uh so we
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were able to work quickly with
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developers to know what type of
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development is appropriate for the
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property and then eventually found the
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right developer for that site that um is
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pursuing a project there now. Um they're
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actually starting foundation work this
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week on the project. Uh so that's it's
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moving forward. U but they were very
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from a developer perspective very
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appreciative of the process of going
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through here. I know there was a lot of
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discussion at the various levels um the
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board level and the the zoning board
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level for that project but ultimately
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the professionalism that our
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organization had the developer was very
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impressed by the size of our community
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and the responsiveness that we gave to
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them uh through our process compared to
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other communities that they've actually
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developed and they actually appreciated
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the process here more than some other
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communities that worked in. Right. And I
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think mayor, you've had experience where
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people come to you and said that was a
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good
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good people. A lot of the mayors that I
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talked to, how did you land fiduciary in
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in your village? They're a very highly
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soughtafter developer. They do a really
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good job, high quality, and they're just
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great company to work with. And I think
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our board picked up on that from from
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the get-go. And those are the types of
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people that we like to work with. We've
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got a very collaborative board and I
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think that they pick up on that as well
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as they as they've mentioned
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» 100%. And that's and frankly I sell you
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all when I'm out selling and saying this
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is a solid board, a solid staff u once
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you get a chance to come in and work
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with the community.
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Uh we talked a little bit about the the
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land uh and that's a uh factor because
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we don't have a lot of space in built in
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the built environment. Uh vacancy is
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low. I've got two slides up here on both
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industrial and retail highlighting uh
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less than 1% on the industrial side less
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than 2%. These are phenomenal numbers. U
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but it's uh both a success and a
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reflection of a constraint as well. Uh
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that means that we the good news is we
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don't have a a ton of vacancy. Bad news
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is we don't have space to put some of
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the interest that we do get. Uh so it's
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less about filling empty buildings uh
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and more about creating viable sites and
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redevelopment opportunities and
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expansion uh capacity.
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uh results and momentum. Those numbers
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show it. Uh you don't get low vacancy
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numbers uh without having high demand
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and being a community that is sought
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after and having good uh properties to
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work with. Uh in 2025, and let Brian uh
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chime in here, but we had, you know, 17
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new businesses that came into town,
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seven existing businesses that relocated
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or expanded. Yeah. And this is without a
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a lot of incentives of some communities
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work with that have just a a endless am
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seemingly an endless amount of money to
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spend or incentives to offer. uh we do
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have that but we're very judicious about
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how we utilize that uh which includes
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the facade and interior buildout grant
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that Brian uh administers
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and the so the indust industrial growth
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and expansion includes Striker's project
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here uh other development and when I
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talk about spread out across the village
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I mean we're spread out across the
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village uh which is it's not just
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isolated in one location downtown
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development that's happening. Corridor
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development. And by corridor
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development, I mean things on 31 like we
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talked about the seasons of carry
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project. We have Route 14 uh development
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going on. We have things that are in the
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pipeline. Uh that's all part of just the
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the larger picture. So it's not even
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just happening within the TIF district,
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it's happening in other areas of the the
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village. and to continue to work on in
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developments that are already entitled.
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Uh some of the bigger residential
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developments and then the D26
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transportation center uh the relocation
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coming online. An important component of
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that was something that we worked very
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hard to maintain uh was to find a site
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where we could also maintain the
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commercial frontage. And now we have
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platted lots that will be able to market
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and interest already coming in those in
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those lots. And the important part being
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the continuity between you all the you
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have other commercial development and
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being able to maintain that frontage in
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in a context that includes other uses
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like a transportation facility,
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residential uses, municipal center,
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industrial uses. Uh so that's really
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important.
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Uh this is just a little bit on the
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facade interior buildout grant program.
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Uh again just the projects that are in
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the works. Uh sales tax generating uh
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businesses in the B1 and B2B B3 zoning
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districts and then in also non-sales tax
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generating businesses. We have programs
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that can be utilized by businesses in
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both
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u revenue trends. This is a this is an
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important slide in just the reflection
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of when we talk about economic growth
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and economic stability. Uh it's one
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thing to say it but then actually see it
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in the numbers. You know some
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communities you know you're tracking CPI
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and you're tracking where that growth is
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at. Kerry has continual growth. Uh and
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an important the uh brown line is uh
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sales tax. So we are continuing to and
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up trending up uh keeping in line with
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also income tax, property tax uh growth.
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So Kerry is a growing community and
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these revenue trends aren't reflected in
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a lot of other towns. A lot of other
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towns are trying to figure out a way to
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get it going back up and reverse a
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trend. We are seeing the opposite. We
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are seeing continual growth.
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Uh why do some deals take longer? One of
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the common questions I get is like why
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isn't anything happening here? What is
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going on with that site? Like like Brian
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mentioned, a site is identified. Uh we
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spent a lot of time trying to cultivate
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that, but it's often out of our control.
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We can we can put the lay the groundwork
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providing the the infrastructure. We can
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do all the things to try to get
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development and facilitate development.
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Uh but again, we're competing with other
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areas. uh carry competes with locations
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such as Crystal Lake, Elgangquin, and
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then a larger regional area. And then
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sometimes it's not even just a larger
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regional area, it's a state. So we're
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looking at uh you know, we're close
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enough to the border that sometimes
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we're competing against locations in
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Wisconsin. uh the real estate economics
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and development economics, asking prices
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and seller expectations and development
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costs do not always align uh with users
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u with what users can support and that's
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an important distinction. Property
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owners are free to ask what they think
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they want to get or what their
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expectations are and you know and work
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with their brokers to try to achieve
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that. uh property control. The village
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can influence site readiness. Like I
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said, we can do everything we can to get
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sites prepped. Uh but private owners and
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brokers control the pricing and timing
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and terms of the deal. The available
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tools, we have tools, uh but we got to
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be judicious in how we utilize them
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because there's still even within those
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tools, there's still a limited amount of
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resources that can be utilized.
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things that are active in the pipeline
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uh in confidentiality. Uh a lot is
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happening that may not be visible yet.
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And that goes to that deals take a while
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to evolve and sometimes you get to the
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11th hour or you get to the two yard
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line and it just doesn't happen. And
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it's frustrating, it's disappointing,
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but you get up and you go back after the
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next deal or you have a contingency
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plan. That's always important. to just
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not rely on the deals that are
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percolating, but to also have plans
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because sometimes you find a a developer
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or a business that you think you have
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the ideal site, they think they have the
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ideal site, but if that doesn't work out
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to be able to bring them and say, "Okay,
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let's figure out where else can we go?"
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Uh so that's site evaluations, that's
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the buyer due diligence, the lease
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property purchase discussions, worked on
[19:28]
some deals here where uh it just the
[19:31]
property owner had a different
[19:34]
expectation than what the business
[19:36]
expectation were. We got pretty far down
[19:39]
the road with that uh and the deal just
[19:41]
couldn't work. uh corporate approval.
[19:44]
Some uh some businesses are have to go
[19:47]
get approval from their corporate office
[19:49]
in New York or Los Angeles or someplace
[19:53]
by somebody who doesn't even know
[19:55]
anything about uh carry. Uh so getting
[20:00]
past those hurdles, we worked with Brian
[20:03]
and I spent time uh I was at the ICS
[20:06]
conference in Las Vegas and met with a
[20:09]
uh the head of a real estate investment
[20:12]
trust that controls a couple of key
[20:15]
properties
[20:16]
um and convinced them that this was a
[20:19]
good property and again speaking kind of
[20:22]
generically without disclosing
[20:24]
properties that they should be
[20:26]
considered removing. removing from the
[20:28]
REIT and allowing for development uh and
[20:31]
laid out a very good case for it. They
[20:33]
agreed. They came back and said the REIT
[20:37]
people that are in charge of the REIT in
[20:38]
New York won't let it go. So that's
[20:42]
that's how these decisions happen
[20:44]
sometimes. U and then uh zoning and
[20:47]
regulatory issues. The things that we do
[20:50]
control u might not be aligned with what
[20:53]
the density or what the the buildout
[20:56]
what the the actual uses. So, you know,
[20:59]
is that something we want to
[21:02]
provide some relief on or some
[21:03]
flexibility or is it something we stick
[21:05]
with? That's one of the things that we
[21:07]
we can control. Uh premature disclosure
[21:12]
can affect a property negotiation. So
[21:14]
sometimes when uh the word gets out of a
[21:17]
business looking at a location, it can
[21:20]
kill a deal. Uh or it drives it changes
[21:23]
the property price or a competitor comes
[21:26]
in and tries to uh find a way to to uh
[21:31]
squash the deal. Due diligence often
[21:34]
determines whether a pro prospect
[21:35]
becomes a project. Uh and that's on both
[21:38]
sides. Um and then uh the right public
[21:41]
message is important.
[21:43]
Nothing is guaranteed until deals are
[21:45]
ready. But how that word is out there to
[21:48]
the public is an important part of of
[21:51]
that discussion.
[21:54]
Right now we're seeing a lot of and the
[21:57]
mayor had touched on the you the build
[22:00]
legislation and some of the initiatives
[22:02]
in the state. Uh in addition to that we
[22:05]
are just seeing a lot of vacant land
[22:07]
attracting residential interest and
[22:10]
that's you know something that requires
[22:13]
careful consideration because that is a
[22:15]
reflection of evolving markets. Uh it's
[22:18]
a change in kind of the direction. This
[22:20]
is not unique to Kerry. This is not
[22:23]
regional state. It's nationwide.
[22:26]
Uh most of the active interest is in
[22:28]
multif family rental development. Uh but
[22:31]
also town homes and row homes. Uh select
[22:34]
there is a select interest in additional
[22:36]
single family homes. uh and then mixed
[22:39]
use or commercial uh components when
[22:42]
supported by the development economics.
[22:43]
So that's an important consideration
[22:46]
as we push for the commercial to be a
[22:49]
part of the deal of how the development
[22:51]
economics work for the developer. Uh so
[22:55]
some of these considerations that go
[22:57]
along with this is where does
[22:58]
residential development help support
[23:00]
broader community goals? Uh where should
[23:02]
land be preserved for employment,
[23:04]
commercial or tax generations? where
[23:06]
from a policy standpoint where where do
[23:08]
we push back and just say no that's
[23:11]
that's not going to be a residential
[23:12]
site and how should fiscal impact
[23:14]
traffic school impacts market demand and
[23:17]
community character be balanced with
[23:18]
with all that it's it's an important
[23:22]
consideration uh because residential
[23:24]
provides customers activity it provides
[23:27]
investment and in some cases though as I
[23:29]
said it also competes with sites for
[23:32]
commercial industrial use I mean just
[23:35]
looking at we had put some numbers out
[23:36]
there for what fiduciary just the impact
[23:39]
fees alone what are we looking at
[23:42]
» Uh their impact fees I think we're like
[23:44]
over a million dollars total for the
[23:45]
project um but just in general just
[23:48]
speaking to uh the number of years that
[23:51]
I've been in this profession and Dan as
[23:53]
well is it's very cyclical as far as
[23:56]
what the market is producing um you know
[23:59]
if you go back 25 years ago banks were
[24:01]
the main project they were building on
[24:03]
every street corner Um then obviously
[24:05]
the internet kind of came along and
[24:07]
banks kind of went more paperless so
[24:09]
there wasn't a need for a branch in
[24:11]
every location. Um then for a while it
[24:13]
was you know your Walgreens and CVS's
[24:15]
were competing for every street corner
[24:17]
signal intersection trying to get into
[24:18]
every market. Uh then you know 2010s
[24:23]
after the uh recession you saw more
[24:25]
mattress stores and things like that
[24:26]
were popping up everywhere. So there's
[24:28]
different types of movements that come
[24:31]
in for a while. car washes are more
[24:33]
recent. Um, but you're starting to see
[24:35]
that going by the wayside a little bit
[24:36]
and now it's more coffee shops and then
[24:39]
you know that trend will continue and
[24:42]
then it'll switch into something else.
[24:43]
But residential right now is significant
[24:46]
in the Illinois uh from a standpoint
[24:48]
that following the recession there was
[24:50]
not a lot of construction occurring in
[24:52]
the in Illinois for a decade plus. Uh so
[24:56]
there's pent up demand from that
[24:57]
standpoint. So that's where we're seeing
[24:58]
more of that interest in the residential
[25:00]
side of things now where we've had those
[25:03]
two larger projects in the village
[25:04]
approved. We've had other infill
[25:06]
projects that we've had interest in, but
[25:08]
even vacant sites that we have for sale
[25:10]
now for
[25:11]
um whether it be industrial or res
[25:14]
commercial growth, we're still seeing
[25:16]
more interest from the residential
[25:18]
aspect as well from that standpoint to
[25:20]
just determine whether or not that's the
[25:22]
right fit to convert to those types of
[25:26]
developments. uh we still want to see
[25:27]
that commercial development in certain
[25:28]
areas and try to be focused in where we
[25:30]
do allow the residential in if it is
[25:33]
desirable from that standpoint.
[25:37]
» [clears throat]
[25:38]
» So some priorities moving forward like I
[25:41]
said this is an ongoing process. It's
[25:43]
[clears throat] an iterative process.
[25:44]
It's but the ongoing targeted
[25:46]
recruitment uh that doesn't change again
[25:49]
on both sides put positioning ourselves
[25:52]
to be the target and then also going out
[25:54]
and identifying potential opportunities.
[25:57]
Uh property owner broker engagement.
[26:00]
We've really been trying hard, take a
[26:02]
hard run at this to get to some of the
[26:05]
property owners that maybe uh aren't
[26:07]
even aware of what what the interest is
[26:09]
in their property. You've seen some of
[26:11]
the development opportunity sites. We've
[26:13]
worked with property owners to get those
[26:16]
placed on their site. And that's a way
[26:18]
of
[26:20]
looking at the potential where we don't
[26:23]
control the property, but we also want
[26:25]
to deliver a message to anybody that's
[26:27]
driving by or looking at a site or uh
[26:30]
doing their due diligence uh that the
[26:32]
community is an active partner. And that
[26:35]
goes a long way with that relationship
[26:38]
building uh retention and expansion.
[26:41]
Support businesses that are already
[26:43]
invested in carrying. uh always say your
[26:45]
most important business you have the
[26:47]
most important business is the one you
[26:49]
already have. You don't want to lose
[26:50]
businesses and there's a lot of
[26:52]
communities that don't even know why a
[26:56]
business left until it's gone. Uh so you
[26:58]
want to be able to head off any any
[27:02]
issues that might be there and try to
[27:04]
work with uh business retention as well
[27:06]
as attraction strategic incentives as I
[27:09]
said uh utilizing resources we have to
[27:13]
to the to the maximum but also being
[27:15]
very judicious about how we maximize
[27:18]
those use in order to realize the
[27:20]
community benefits and the fiscal
[27:22]
impacts on the land use plan as Brian
[27:25]
just said balancing that balance
[27:27]
residential demand with the commercial
[27:29]
and employment objectives that are
[27:31]
already stated. Uh so in a statement
[27:35]
Kerry is economically healthy. Future
[27:38]
growth depends on continually evolving
[27:40]
and reassessing the village's strategic
[27:42]
position within a very competitive
[27:44]
market. Uh, one of those things if
[27:47]
anybody's had an opportunity to go look
[27:49]
at what we have done in the last couple
[27:53]
years is the development of the Choose
[27:55]
Carry website, branding and logo. Uh,
[27:58]
and on the Choose Carry website is the
[28:01]
is demographic data, community
[28:03]
information, business resources updating
[28:07]
every month on available properties. So
[28:09]
that even somebody that's not even
[28:11]
thinking of Carrie today
[28:13]
might be able to log in next month and
[28:17]
look and see what's going on in carry.
[28:19]
And this is something we continually
[28:21]
promote. Uh and there's a QR code so
[28:23]
that when we're out in the development
[28:26]
community, we can uh people can scan the
[28:28]
QR code, it'll take them to the choose
[28:30]
carry website. And on here is also that
[28:32]
development opportunity site that we
[28:34]
talked about that u just to get the word
[28:37]
out even further. and you can actually
[28:39]
scan the QR code from from the side.
[28:43]
So with that, that's an overview uh of
[28:47]
things that are going on and just the
[28:49]
ongoing process. And so happy to open it
[28:52]
up to questions or discussion for Brian
[28:54]
or I or Eric if there's anything you
[28:56]
want to add to that.
[28:59]
» Good. No, this is this is always good to
[29:02]
reaffirm what we're doing behind the
[29:04]
scenes. It's a big question I get asked
[29:06]
all the time. I always I always throw
[29:09]
out the at my mayor's round table about
[29:10]
the three-legged stool. It is so true.
[29:13]
You have to have a willing property
[29:14]
owner, a willing developer, and a
[29:15]
willing village to get something done.
[29:17]
And sometimes all three of those don't
[29:19]
happen. But, you know, I think that it's
[29:21]
great. It's, you know, hearing what the
[29:23]
development community is saying about
[29:25]
the village of Kerry is very promising.
[29:27]
You know, we we are forward thinking. We
[29:30]
work together collaboratively. We've got
[29:32]
a top-notch staff getting things done
[29:34]
and uh they know we're taking these
[29:36]
things seriously. And thanks to to Dan
[29:38]
and Brian for heading up the the efforts
[29:40]
on that because that's that's one of the
[29:42]
most important things that I get asked
[29:43]
about all the time. What's next? What
[29:45]
are you guys going to do next? And you
[29:47]
know, sometimes it doesn't align with
[29:49]
other personal ideas, but it might align
[29:51]
with the long-term vision of of the
[29:54]
village. And you know that change is
[29:56]
hard sometimes, but we always try to do
[29:59]
what's best. And I always tell the staff
[30:01]
whenever we have a meeting with a
[30:03]
developer or a business that wants to
[30:04]
come in is that it's got to be
[30:05]
meaningful and sustainable to the
[30:06]
village of Kerry. Period. Those are the
[30:08]
two criteria that are super important
[30:11]
when we have conversations. We're not
[30:12]
looking just to fill something up. And
[30:15]
that's why we have the professionalism
[30:16]
and the people that can direct a
[30:18]
developer or business that wants to come
[30:20]
in and say, "How can we make this work?"
[30:22]
And we do. Sometimes you have to
[30:23]
shoehorn things in and it works. You
[30:26]
know, we're we're we're very fortunate
[30:27]
to to have two 100 million dollar
[30:30]
projects running simultaneously in the
[30:32]
village of Kerry. You know, it's we're
[30:34]
making a name for ourselves here and we
[30:36]
have to take these things serious and
[30:38]
you know, we we can't rest on the fact
[30:40]
that we have things going on. We have to
[30:42]
be diligent and look forward to the
[30:43]
future. And like the I love the example
[30:46]
that Dan brought about uh the
[30:48]
[clears throat] damage property. You
[30:49]
know, I've been I'm in my 14th year as
[30:51]
being mayor. been involved in the
[30:53]
village since 2009
[30:55]
and that has been a property that people
[30:57]
wanted to develop forever but the
[30:58]
property owner wouldn't develop. They
[31:00]
didn't want to sell it. You know, Dan
[31:02]
made a couple phone calls several years
[31:04]
ago and said what's going this is what's
[31:06]
going on how these things again building
[31:08]
these relationships have long-term
[31:10]
effects and that affects you know not
[31:13]
only us it affects our school district,
[31:16]
our park district, you know the library
[31:18]
district, fire department. We have to
[31:20]
take all those things into
[31:21]
consideration. And so this is a great
[31:23]
reminder. I I'm appreciative of uh Dan
[31:26]
and Brian putting this together because
[31:27]
it does give us a a better understanding
[31:30]
and it's good to be refreshed all the
[31:31]
time. I know I went off a little bit
[31:33]
wordy here, but what else does Rick?
[31:36]
Don't laugh at me.
[31:37]
» Not just
[31:39]
» This is something that we've worked on
[31:40]
together for many years. Go ahead.
[31:42]
Comments.
[31:42]
» I just was first off, thanks Dan, Brian.
[31:46]
you guys do a a great [clears throat]
[31:48]
job and um it's not an easy job. I think
[31:51]
we all know that. I'm just curious with
[31:54]
um with the two residential deals that
[31:56]
we have that are are now finally getting
[31:59]
some traction and starting to move
[32:01]
along. What kind of um feedback or input
[32:06]
do you get from the business community,
[32:09]
you know, in in town today from those
[32:12]
two developments that are are starting
[32:15]
to uh you know to get off the ground?
[32:18]
» Uh it's a good question. So from the the
[32:20]
two projects, obviously they're
[32:22]
generating uh more housing, which is
[32:24]
more people that or more customers that
[32:26]
the businesses could potentially see. Uh
[32:29]
so the feedback that we've had from uh
[32:31]
the business community in both of those
[32:33]
projects is um you know specifically the
[32:36]
one downtown the project will generate
[32:40]
more customers for the businesses
[32:41]
downtown. So they'd like to see uh that
[32:43]
type of growth occurring from that
[32:45]
standpoint because it'll um in increase
[32:48]
their customer base. um the one along
[32:51]
Route 31 uh the fiduciary project uh
[32:54]
we've had interest already for potential
[32:56]
new businesses and the frontage there as
[32:58]
well. Um so seeing that growth um and
[33:03]
basically you have more people in the
[33:04]
area it drives up the demographics that
[33:07]
attracts more businesses as well. Um,
[33:09]
one of the things um that generally
[33:11]
we've seen with uh the business
[33:13]
community is if you're looking for a
[33:14]
specific retailer as an example, they
[33:18]
will select a market if it has the
[33:20]
demographics. So, um, in my career, I've
[33:23]
worked with multiple, um, communities
[33:26]
and worked with various retailers to try
[33:28]
and come into those communities and
[33:30]
they'll look at what's the population
[33:33]
within a certain distance. Uh, what's
[33:35]
the education level of those people that
[33:37]
live in that distance and um, you know,
[33:40]
other factors from that standpoint. And
[33:42]
if one of those factors isn't met, the
[33:44]
business won't even consider the site.
[33:46]
Um so sometimes having more individuals
[33:50]
within a smaller area or within the
[33:52]
community will drive more of that um
[33:55]
economic reach for those entities or
[33:58]
businesses that we want to see in the
[33:59]
community. Uh we're right now um we have
[34:02]
a you know vacant site across the way
[34:04]
here from that standpoint. The market
[34:07]
for a property here on three Oaks Road
[34:09]
isn't just Kerry. Um it also goes beyond
[34:12]
the boundary. So then the business won't
[34:14]
even look at the municipal boundary.
[34:16]
They're looking at a site to see what
[34:18]
who lives within a specific area of that
[34:20]
site. Um so those projects that we've
[34:24]
had are helping to increase the
[34:26]
demographics from a standpoint that'll
[34:28]
make the sites more marketable for
[34:30]
businesses that there's a larger
[34:32]
customer base that they would want to be
[34:33]
adjacent to.
[34:36]
So in one of the interesting things a
[34:39]
lot of communities a lot of community a
[34:41]
lot of businesses will kind of piggyback
[34:43]
on another one um so one of them might
[34:47]
identify the community first and see the
[34:49]
type of development that's happening and
[34:51]
then that other one will rather than go
[34:54]
through all the the market analysis
[34:57]
they're they're targeting the same
[34:59]
market is they'll piggyback on that.
[35:02]
What also happens within that context
[35:04]
and this is a real world story that's
[35:07]
continuing to evolve here is uh
[35:11]
because of locations in proximity to
[35:14]
Crystal Lake, Elgangquin and other
[35:16]
markets, there is a market area that the
[35:19]
non-competitive market area that they
[35:20]
won't colllocate two locations. Um, I
[35:25]
kept pushing one business further and
[35:28]
further and further to the edge of the
[35:29]
community to get to the edge of their
[35:32]
market area where it was really it was a
[35:34]
hard line of where how far they would
[35:36]
look at a site. It doesn't make sense in
[35:39]
the context of anybody sitting there and
[35:42]
looking at it, but it's a formula they
[35:45]
use and it works. Um, they came back to
[35:49]
the 11th hour said we got corporate
[35:52]
killed the deal. Uh, So, we got to pull
[35:54]
the plug. I had gotten a call um that
[35:58]
somebody else I had been working with
[35:59]
closely um saying, you know, this other
[36:03]
again because of the names of the
[36:04]
businesses and the locations that are
[36:06]
still being evaluated. Uh said they're
[36:09]
back. They're they pulled out and
[36:10]
they're like, "Yeah, we we kind of
[36:12]
looked at it the same way. If they're
[36:14]
not going to be there, we don't want to
[36:15]
do it." Business came back. So, we
[36:17]
re-evaluated the area. Called them back.
[36:20]
I called the other business. Hey,
[36:22]
they're looking at it again. it's start
[36:24]
restarted the process. So there's so
[36:27]
many kind of moving parts behind this
[36:29]
and not the least of which is looking at
[36:32]
that kind of density that's coming in
[36:34]
with the residential. You know if that
[36:36]
wasn't there that wouldn't have been on
[36:38]
the radar but they're seeing those
[36:41]
dollars and that types of impact. I
[36:43]
think we actually had a number on the
[36:45]
economic impact. It was like
[36:47]
» Was 35 million over
[36:48]
» 35 million over 10 years of economic
[36:51]
impact. So
[36:54]
don't discount the impact of residential
[36:56]
notwithstanding the you know the
[36:58]
conflicts of land use but the actual
[37:00]
impact of development and how that
[37:02]
influences decision making on the
[37:05]
business.
[37:07]
» You may also recall excuse me trusty
[37:10]
that we had extensive outreach from the
[37:13]
uh car station project that the
[37:14]
developer went through in their due
[37:16]
diligence period. They did some direct
[37:18]
outreach with local businesses just to
[37:20]
let them know what the project was
[37:22]
about, what was being proposed and get
[37:23]
feedback and that feedback, it's not
[37:26]
anecdotal, it was direct that they were
[37:28]
very supportive of the the people and
[37:30]
the location that would actually draw
[37:32]
more business to them. So they were
[37:33]
excited about the the prospect. So that
[37:35]
that's direct feedback and uh I think um
[37:38]
kind of correlates to the the anecdotal
[37:41]
feedback that we hear. uh we've heard it
[37:43]
directly and I think it is positive and
[37:44]
it will continue to uh to snowball.
[37:46]
It'll it'll be a catalyst for a lot
[37:48]
more.
[37:49]
» And not to mention the employment
[37:50]
opportunities. That's what a lot of the
[37:52]
downtown businesses have said that this
[37:54]
gives them an opportunity to draw in
[37:55]
more employees that could walk to work
[37:57]
and handle those shifts that they're
[37:59]
trying to fill because our our downtown
[38:01]
is bustling right now. They are just
[38:03]
they're bursting and there's so much
[38:05]
going on which is great to see. But you
[38:07]
know then there's the people that well
[38:09]
what's next? What are you going to do
[38:10]
next? Where are we going to put this?
[38:12]
and that. So there there are great
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opportunities with this too.
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» Any other comments?
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» I would just my comment would
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[clears throat] be first of all thank
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you great presentation. Um just kind of
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reiterate I think it's really important
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not just for us to hear but also for the
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community at large if anyone wants to
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tune in find out what's going on they
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can be directed to get an idea of
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there's a plan. This is not willy-nilly.
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We have very um strategic objectives in
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place. And to me, it just solidifies why
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having you in this role, Dan, and
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working with Ryan, why it's so important
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that we do that because we're
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prioritizing that because that's our
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future and we want to we want to look at
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a long-term planning versus just
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something short term. So, thank you.
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» Other comments?
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Okay. Okay. I will entertain a motion to
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adjurnn into executive session to
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discuss litigation pending or eminent 5
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Illinois CS120/2C11
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and real estate purchase or lease by 5
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Illinois CS120C5.
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» So moved.
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» All in favor?
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» Any opposed? Uh we will adjourn this
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regular board committee meeting from
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executive session. So there's no more
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public input here. It is uh 7-Eleven.
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Yeah.
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» The reason