1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:07,919 The following is a real-time recording of the Casco main select board meeting 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:11,080 for August 4th, 2026. There are no cuts or insertions. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:20,320 » I'd like to welcome everyone tonight to the Casco Fleck Board regular board 4 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:24,600 meeting for August 4th, 2026. May we start by saying the pledge of 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,600 allegiance. 6 00:00:27,279 --> 00:00:33,520 I >> aliance to the flag of the United States 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:39,600 of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,760 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 9 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:54,879 We have one minor um agenda change. We're going to move the select 10 00:00:53,199 --> 00:01:02,879 board will discuss the water quality plan up to seven and the uh recreational 11 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:08,799 department programs down to eight >> just because we want 12 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:12,320 solid. >> Okay. 13 00:01:10,479 --> 00:01:15,520 Do I have a >> I approve the meeting agenda with a 14 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:19,040 change? >> Second. 15 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:23,840 » All in favor? Five and0. Thank you very much. Approval of all bills and signing 16 00:01:21,759 --> 00:01:26,080 and approval of the open warrants. >> So moved. 17 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:31,360 » Second. >> All in favor. Five and0. 18 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:36,159 Okay. Approval of the minutes for the July 21st. Has everyone had a chance to 19 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:39,840 read and review them and make sure they're correct? Okay. Do I have a 20 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:42,240 motion? >> So moved. 21 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,840 » Second. >> All in favor? Five and0. Okay. Public 22 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:51,200 participation. You have two minutes for non-aggenda items. 23 00:01:53,759 --> 00:02:00,479 My name is David Kimble. I live at 782 Meadow Road. I'm here to point out a 24 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:02,560 crime in progress. 2 minutes, you say? >> Yes. 25 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:08,640 » Is that what you say? >> Hey, let's have a look at this. 26 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:13,599 » I'm going to try to be as socially and polit politically correct as possible. 27 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:18,879 But if you'll allow me the few moments it's going to take to get from this side 28 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:23,200 to that side. I'm going to go down an agenda that's right here. Right. 29 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,040 » Okay. But like I say, you've got the two minutes. 30 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,000 » How about uh >> that's what I want to point out to you 31 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:34,160 and I'm going to point this out to this environment right here. This environment 32 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:38,319 is non conducive to passing the word cuz there is a substantial crime and 33 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:44,000 progress. >> Talk to the microphone. It's going to 34 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:49,360 help. What we have is embasment market capital stolen from a map that was 35 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:52,319 nefariously not kept >> up to date. Let me start here. 36 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,680 » Yep. >> Hey, I won't leave. 37 00:02:54,239 --> 00:03:00,239 » This is over. >> Let me get to it. 38 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:04,800 » So, politically correct as possible. Jason Farley, 39 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:12,000 2015, second generation surveyor from Casc. 40 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:16,720 His father was a surveyor. Well, found dead at home the night before my 41 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,720 come county tax 2015. 42 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:27,519 Cyrus Leech's wife, he died in 2005, she died in 2007. 43 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:33,280 By the time I bought that property in 2010, the market capital would have been 44 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:42,400 embezzled pretty well and covered up sloppily. I'll show you right here. We 45 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:48,319 are this is the insisting that I speak. When this started, I went into the town 46 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:54,000 hall, not angry. I was getting over some surgery, right? I'm not a big hurry 47 00:03:50,159 --> 00:04:01,640 anymore. Anyway, you don't have a uh freedom of information request, right? 48 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,640 This is 2015. 49 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Who in that office is contacting the 50 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:20,000 where what am I looking for? Yeah, right there. The mortgage company, 51 00:04:17,919 --> 00:04:23,919 right? Who's in contact with the mortgage company? Because the mortgage 52 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:30,240 company, because I'm a veteran, determines the escalated taxes, right? 53 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:33,759 And processes the paperwork. So, I ask it, who's in charge of that? You got a 54 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:41,280 non-government office in charge of where the market 55 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:50,960 capital for the property in Casco is taken, right? They have no interest in 56 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:58,720 integrity, transparency, right? This is going straight to the stock exchange. 57 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:02,080 And yeah, the stock exchange, the ETF is what it's going under. That's where 58 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,720 somebody can pay somebody else's property taxes, put the value of that 59 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:11,520 property on the stock exchange. It was invented in 1993. 60 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:15,520 That was the same there in rugby for our good men over here, the loose head. When 61 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:19,759 they started lifting the lineups, when the ball goes up bounds and rugby, throw 62 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:27,039 it back in, you throw it down the center, six or seven guys by side like a 63 00:05:23,919 --> 00:05:31,039 jump ball. They invented lift in the same year they invented the ETF. It's 64 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:34,880 kind of like an economic call that abstract. I'm going I'm going to go 65 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:39,759 through this. 99 >> they invent the uh North American Free 66 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:44,880 Trade Agreement where the ability from North America and 67 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,280 Canada. Right. >> I've already extended your time, Mr. 68 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,639 Kimble. >> I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I 69 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,240 appreciate it. Once I get through this, I'm Right. Wrap it up. 70 00:05:52,479 --> 00:05:58,800 » This is for the time. I'm going back here. I'll read this out. 71 00:05:56,479 --> 00:06:01,600 Power inherent in people. All power is inherent in the people. All free 72 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:08,560 governments are founded in their authority that's instituted for their 73 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:13,680 benefit. They have there therefore un unalienable and undefeasible right to 74 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:20,000 institute government and to alter the reform or totally change the same when 75 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:26,400 their safety and happiness required. at the same time a Jed surveyor second 76 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:31,440 generation Jed surveyor will get cover up. Okay. And it goes from here. 77 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:35,039 » Okay. Mr. Kimble, >> this is the tax record information sheet 78 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,759 that goes with the >> Mr. Kimble. 79 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:40,000 » Mr. Kimble, we've heard this a number of times. 80 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:44,560 » Oh, okay. and come up here and finish it for me because what what happens here is 81 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,880 I want to start from the start and get to the finish and uninterrupted because 82 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:51,520 this is a lesson >> okay 83 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:56,080 » for we the people and you're interrupting 84 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:58,720 » sir our agenda is 2 minutes for non and you have now been 85 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:04,160 » everybody else in the world is 3 minutes I've been up for 2 minutes for so long 86 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:08,720 while while Holly M Holly Hancock was in your seat right I'm only asking to get 87 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:12,479 from one end of this to Yeah, >> we've gone four already. 88 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:17,280 » Hey, you am I hurting your feelings cuz I'm coming back here. 89 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:21,360 » I haven't have to call sheriff's for on this. We're asking 90 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,919 » we're asking you to stop. That's all. >> Okay. Okay. Look, let's go. One more 91 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:31,759 thing, Texas. General, this is exactly 92 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:35,280 identical to the situation. Turon Mland and Vietnam did the same thing with the 93 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,000 record. >> All right. You want to call the 94 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:41,759 sheriff's popping? I'm going home. Have them come down there. I'm going now. You 95 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,240 want to start? You want to do a political what? 96 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:46,400 » What are you going to call that? >> That's all it is. They're asking you to 97 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,639 stop. >> This is economics right here. This is 98 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:55,520 the United States of America getting taken to the stock exchange place. I 99 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:59,039 will loose the farious record people. All right. 100 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:02,560 » If you give us a solution, we'll listen. >> What? 101 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:09,520 » If you give us a solution, we'll listen. >> Solution. Transparency. You have to have 102 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:16,879 transparency, right? These these lots, this area 103 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:22,240 has clearly been surveyed and it wasn't until the mortgage balance that all this 104 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:30,639 stuff happened and if if you just look at this, it's that here's a here is a 105 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:35,919 sound point. The Q system, which is what they use stock machine, right? We don't 106 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:41,599 know the cus numbers. They don't tell we the people of numbers, okay? Cuz they're 107 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:46,480 taking that to the stock exchange because they're covering the map and 108 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,160 paying the property taxes. And in fact, you look at what's going on stock 109 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:53,600 exchange. That just can't be real. But I only got one point right here. And you 110 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,120 know what? If you give me three more minutes, 111 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:00,320 » you know, this is it. >> If you give me 3 minutes after this, 112 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,880 I'll really explain it to you. >> No. No. 113 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:07,040 » No. There it is. Right there. And my good 114 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:13,040 man that loose had rose his hand when this began to take part in that to be a 115 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,519 liaison with me. >> She says, "No, 116 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:21,279 » Mr. Kimble, your time is >> 20 block one. That's $220,000 117 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:25,600 taken to the stock exchange by >> How many cabals paying mine properties 118 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:30,000 property taxes?" >> Hey, 119 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:34,480 » what was that? What was that? 8 minutes. >> He's got to argue. I'd have gone through 120 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,720 that without talking. You made a perfect point. 121 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:40,240 » All right, I got to do this one more time. No, you don't. No, you don't. 122 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:45,440 » Yes, I do, too. >> This environment right here has been 123 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:51,680 maintained by people that want to maintain control of of embezzled 124 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:55,120 deposits on the stock exchange. Have a meet me at the house. I got no problem 125 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,080 with that. I'll go downtown. >> Mr. King, 126 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:03,440 » this is worth it. Look, this is embezzlement and pro transparency is 127 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:07,839 bringing this map right down to >> David. Best case scenario, just just 128 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:14,000 just head out. Okay. Say good night. We appreciate you being here. I appreciate 129 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:17,519 you taking the time. We'll try to help. >> Yeah. I Let's Let's just finish it up 130 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,600 tonight. >> Okay. 131 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,000 » All right. Well, here I have >> Well Fargo 132 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,240 2015. 133 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:33,680 What are you saying? You saying that this town with this much embellishment, 134 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:39,200 this much trouble, this much obviously cover up is going to stand over this and 135 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:42,200 we are going to go to court. Okay. 136 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:50,240 » Try to get everything in focus over here. 137 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,160 There's the record of payment, record of billing. 138 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,120 » Mr. Kimble, >> what we have is okay. 139 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,880 » Next on the agenda, >> we're moving on. Go ahead. 140 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,760 » Manager's update. >> Is there any other open 141 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:07,040 » Is there any other public participation for non-aggenda items? 142 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:11,200 » Come on up to the microphone. >> And we apologize for this. 143 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:15,079 » Two minutes. >> I'm actually a little nervous. 144 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,000 » I'll probably mess this up, but anyways, >> take your time. Introduce yourself. 145 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:24,800 » Good evening. Uh, my name is Lindsay Laura. I live on Pine Hill Road in 146 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:29,200 Casco. Um, I'm here tonight just to express a little bit more concerns I 147 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:34,640 have, which I did probably a few weeks back. I was here on Pine Hill. Concerned 148 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:39,600 about all the trees that are um overhanging all the wires right now. Um, 149 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:45,040 especially going up Pine Hill on Kayla's Way. There's actually a huge branch in 150 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:50,959 the road and I'm petrified to even like drive on that side of the road cuz it's 151 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:55,600 over the wires and over the road. Um and going up on the left as well. I live up 152 00:11:53,279 --> 00:12:01,279 on the top. So there's um a huge tree over crossing the road. Um not crossing 153 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:06,320 but over um and the whole way up the road there's trees all over the wires. 154 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,839 So like this should kind of get taken care of before winter if it was snow 155 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,800 right now. Probably wouldn't be safe to even drive on certain parts of the road. 156 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,800 » Can you say that out loud? >> Sorry. 157 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:19,920 » Don't say snow out loud. >> Sorry. I know. I Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. 158 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,959 Sorry. Sorry. But anyways, um, and like if there was a dump truck or 159 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:27,839 » two minutes is up. I'm just kidding. >> If there was a dump a dump truck or, you 160 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:31,200 know, a big box truck, it probably would rip down some of those trees, wires, 161 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:36,320 whatever. And I don't know who to contact, whether it's you guys to reach 162 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,279 out to Q team, Lucas Tree, whatever. >> What we have to do is get a hold of 163 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Central Main Power Company. That's all their 164 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:43,600 » their responsibility. Good to know cuz I didn't know if that's something that 165 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,480 hires >> Lucas Tree has been doing a lot of tree 166 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,240 work in the area. >> Okay. So, 167 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,880 » good to know. Good to know. >> I think we can probably follow up and 168 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,720 take care. >> That would be great. 169 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,639 » Not a problem. >> Thank you. 170 00:12:53,279 --> 00:13:02,680 » You're welcome. Thank you. >> Okay. 171 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,680 » Do we have anybody else or no? 172 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:07,639 » Sam, you got a minute and a quarter. No. 173 00:13:08,959 --> 00:13:11,304 » Yeah. [laughter] 174 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:18,240 » Oh my god. >> You ain't even started yet, 175 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,440 » I'm sorry, D. Um, >> yeah, 176 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:26,399 » Sam Dave Dave took up all your time. >> I know he did. All right, I'll be I'll 177 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:31,279 be This is ridiculous. >> Um, three brief points. Uh, number one, 178 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:35,760 I would like to express my appreciation to the town manager for his open door 179 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,600 policy and had a great meeting with Tony last week. I'm learning about our 180 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:42,560 processes and I'm trying to coach our comprehensive plan implementation 181 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,560 committee to be judicious about what we bring to the microphone during public 182 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:50,320 comment. With that said, one thing I would like to bring up that is not on 183 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:57,199 the agenda, but I would love to see maintained on the agenda until a 184 00:13:52,720 --> 00:14:01,600 resolution is found is the work on um the uh animal control situation. I don't 185 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,440 see it on the agenda tonight. I don't see it on the manager's update and 186 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:09,040 that's fine. But please on behalf of the community, I urge you to keep this in 187 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:14,720 front of us. And then finally, I wanted to share um the pride that I have uh 188 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:20,079 about the work we did with the open space commission and seven other 189 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:26,320 stakeholders in open space, including uh safe streets, the run club, lon echo, uh 190 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:31,920 water quality, ATV club, and the snowmobile club who all marched with us 191 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:37,600 for Casco Days uh under the oposes of uh open space and outdoors for all. and we 192 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:41,199 are the recipient of the spirit award and we are taking that momentum to 193 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,360 continue our work. So good job. >> Thank you. 194 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:55,199 » Thank you. Anybody else? Did I try to regain control? 195 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:58,880 Okay. Manager's update. >> Yep. 196 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:02,959 » Um again, this is going to you'll hear it a couple more times. This is a the 197 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:07,120 fivem minute invite. it's called uh it's to invite all residents to attend the 198 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:12,560 second Cascal Village community workshop that is scheduled for Tuesday September 199 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:16,000 15th at 5:30. Uh that meeting will be taking place instead of a select board 200 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:20,079 meeting. So that gives the opportunity for all the select board members to 201 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:27,120 attend. Um this will be an interactive workshop uh with uh resilience planning 202 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:31,600 and come up with uh some potential zoning concept development patents 203 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:36,560 design standards and regulatory approaches to help guide the future of 204 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:40,639 Casco Village. Um what this will be is a review of some key themes that were 205 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:45,040 previously um done at the first community workshop and this is just 206 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:50,639 going to end up working to help us come and facilitate hopefully some uh more 207 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:56,079 useful zoning that will preserve the village while also giving some 208 00:15:52,079 --> 00:16:02,560 opportunities uh for multi-use. Um, the town has issued a RFP request 209 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:10,560 proposal for the delivery of screen sand for 2026 27 winter season. Sealed bids 210 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:14,800 are due on August 13th and must include the recently received analysis verifying 211 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:19,600 compliance of this material specification. Uh, I anticipate the 212 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:24,639 contract being awarded to the being awarded by the select board at your 213 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:30,800 August 18th meeting. Um, one thing that has come out since this is the RFP for 214 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:37,120 the sanding salt shed uh has been out and that will be um brought to the 215 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:40,079 select board at your September 4th. I have to remember your first meeting in 216 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,120 September. I'm trying I don't have the calendar in front of me. Um so those 217 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:49,199 will coexist and the work by that on the uh Sam Schultz said will have to be done 218 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:53,839 by midocctober. >> It's actually September 1st. September 219 00:16:51,360 --> 00:17:01,040 1st. September 1st. >> Um GP Cog in the town will host a public 220 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:05,679 open house on August 12th uh from 4:30 to 6:30 at the Websmill part to provide 221 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:09,919 information and gather feedback on a proposed four-way stop at that 222 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:14,319 intersection of Poland Spring Road, Websmill Road and Pine Hill. You'll find 223 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:20,480 there's been a flyer that has been put out there with a QR code that has been 224 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:24,959 put on our Facebook. Um it's going to be on our mailers. Um so anyone who has 225 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:31,039 especially if you live in the Webs Mills area, but we encourage anyone to attend 226 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:35,039 uh that uh open house. Uh public works has received a new 227 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:39,440 sprayer and will provide the department the capability to paint crosswalks, 228 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:44,400 pavement markings, and handicap parking signal in house. Uh the new equipment 229 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:48,000 will be used also to assist um preservation equipment. you can take it 230 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:52,559 off where the spray paint portion is and use it for spraying with a water base to 231 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:56,960 help clean off the the trucks during the winter season. Um, as you'll find out as 232 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,679 you look outside, one of the first things that will be used there is 233 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:06,520 repainting the crosswalk since it just got paved over. So, that will be one of 234 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,520 the uh first items done. 235 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:13,679 Um, road uh foreman Mike J and I have been inspecting some private roads um 236 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,960 that received winter maintenance from the town. sure they remain compliant 237 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:22,480 with the 1972 private roads standards. At this time, there are two private 238 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:26,799 roads, Konav and Lower Coffee Pond, that have been identified as not meeting 239 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:33,039 those standards. Um, you'll find out Coffee Pond uh road, the turnaround is 240 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:39,039 is non-existent for when it needs to be. Uh the other one on Cone is a say it's a 241 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:44,160 washboard is an understatement on one end of it by Valley. Um, again, these 242 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:47,440 should be fairly easy fix for both of the road associations, but we're going 243 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:52,600 to give them some notification if they don't fa do it, what the consequences 244 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,600 are. 245 00:18:52,960 --> 00:19:03,440 I got a couple more. Um, legal council has filed a 80k um, which is basically a 246 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:07,919 land use enforcement action uh, against the owner and lease of 50 Rabbit Run for 247 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:13,360 violating the town cease and desist order. Under this action, the statutory 248 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:20,080 enforcement mechanism is is to go before the court and seek court compliance, 249 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:24,080 civil penalties um from the court, which will then could also potentially be as 250 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:30,320 much as fines or authorize them to shut down, you know, actually go down and 251 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:33,360 physically lock that up. Um again, this action demonstrates the town's 252 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:39,520 commitment to ensuring compliance with with this ordinance is a decision by 253 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:43,120 this slot board. Um we anticipate um our legal staff asking for the court to 254 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:48,799 expedite this ruling since they have been in violation of it for over four 255 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:53,600 months and have not shown any uh avenue to comply with it. 256 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:57,679 One last thing, I'll be on vacation from August 28th through September 9th and 257 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:02,080 will be unavailable by cell phone or email during that time. During that 258 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,120 time, Chief uh Brian Cole will oversee any critical town manager 259 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:09,799 responsibilities and address any urgent matters that are required during my 260 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:09,799 absence. 261 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:17,440 » Okay. Thank you. Does anyone have any questions for 262 00:20:15,679 --> 00:20:23,360 a couple of questions? I just wanted to confirm on the private roads. Um is this 263 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:28,960 still in process and you have found two thus far or is it you've reviewed all 264 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:31,840 private roads with snow plowing and We have not reviewed all of them. 265 00:20:30,159 --> 00:20:37,760 » No. Okay. So, in process. >> Exactly. And these ones, put it very 266 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,919 bluntly, have come from other private roads complaints. 267 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,919 » Got you. >> Okay. 268 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:46,760 » Thanks. You're welcome. 269 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,320 » Amy, >> uh Amy Brown, Casco, just a quick 270 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:59,840 question. On private roads like Coffee Pond Road, is the private road 271 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:04,159 association responsible for the safety of 272 00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:07,039 the access to the main road on that road or is that not part of their 273 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:11,280 responsibility? >> It depends what you defined access. 274 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,559 You're talking about where the entry aspect that private roads until it 275 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,360 becomes a public road. They're responsible for all that aspect. 276 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:24,240 » Yeah. I realizing it's a difficult situation and I don't know what the easy 277 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:30,320 answer for them is, but um as someone who goes down that road on a daily 278 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:34,799 basis, that is a incredibly bad accident waiting to happen. Um the houses down 279 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,640 there are just getting bigger and bigger. There's more and more traffic, 280 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:44,960 more and more people using the boat ramp, um larger construction vehicles 281 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:49,360 coming out all the time. And when you go to turn onto that road, it's not even 282 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:53,840 wide enough a lot of times when you come face on with another car. But again, not 283 00:21:52,000 --> 00:22:01,640 an easy solution, but definitely something that is an accident and a bad 284 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,640 accident waiting to happen. 285 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:11,120 Thank you for that. Okay. And moving along, the select board 286 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:16,799 will consider an update updating the following policies. community center 287 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:22,480 facility use and remote meeting policy. >> Uh included in the packet is an updated 288 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:29,679 uh community center/ facility use one. Um that was after legal review. Uh again 289 00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:35,919 it is the substance has not yet changed much but the uh some of the wording 290 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:40,559 verbiage has uh again when they provided me um the updated they did not provide a 291 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:44,559 redline version of what I presented just because there was multiple changes uh 292 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:48,240 and when I got back from them I didn't have the opportunity to do a redline 293 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,320 version of it. Uh so to me it's up to for the board on that one to determine 294 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:55,840 whether they want uh myself or staff to come back with a redline version to say 295 00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:01,280 what the true differences are between what the original proposed uh uh policy 296 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:06,799 was and what the one recommended by legal staff. Um this other one that was 297 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,840 in the remote meeting pro is again I think they're talking about at the 298 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:15,440 workshop. This will be a probably a continual one. Uh included in your 299 00:23:12,159 --> 00:23:20,880 packet is what MMA's model policy is. Um whether you want to tweak that and make 300 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:25,120 that become the town's policy with some finer uh alterations that would be up to 301 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:32,159 this point. And I've already tweaked it once. I ran 302 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:39,520 it through AI four times today. But getting back to the community, I do 303 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:45,120 have three questions. Um and one of them is a number thing and I'm big on 304 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:49,520 numbers. um on the available spaces. >> I saw that same thing. Yes, 305 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:56,559 » it goes community center entire space concentrated use capacity 211 mixed seat 306 00:23:53,840 --> 00:24:01,760 use seating capacity 270. That's the only one that mixed use is higher than 307 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:07,760 the concentration >> and I added those numbers up and they 308 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:12,000 just don't. So that's 309 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:15,200 » 12. It should be 210. If all you add the gymnasium, kitchen, small and large 310 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960 meeting room, it's 210. >> Yeah. 311 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,240 » So, >> but then again, if you do the 312 00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:24,400 concentrated people and you add up from the gymnasium all the way up through, 313 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:29,600 it's it's over 400, I think. >> Well, if you're counting the 270 314 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,960 » because the 75 it's 210. >> Yeah. 315 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,559 » Which >> 345 350 316 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,159 » like I said >> 427. redone. 317 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:43,440 » Those could be redone. >> Yeah. Okay. And and I didn't I knew they 318 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:45,679 could be redone. I just wanted to bring it to the attention. 319 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,919 » Y >> um then 320 00:24:48,480 --> 00:25:00,360 scrolling down just a little bit more. Uh the required dep damage deposit of 321 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,360 $50. I'm just wondering is that too low? 322 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:10,760 because most everything in this building costs more than $50 and it got damaged. 323 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,760 » You look at people. 324 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:19,039 » Yeah. No, I I just No, I'm sitting here and I'm looking straight out. I'm not 325 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,080 looking at you. I'm just >> What was this? What was the one that you 326 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,240 just said before? >> $50. 327 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,480 » Yeah, the require Yeah, the required damage deposit is a 328 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:35,440 » is $50. I mean that is low I think right now for 329 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:41,520 most of the building it's forest and it's not you know 330 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:45,799 you're not banging around okay using something in the gym or having 331 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:53,919 changed in the future but it's now coming 332 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:59,039 » I just want to make sure that if we did have a situation that it wasn't going to 333 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,640 affect your budget in any Okay. So, if you know if something really big went 334 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:07,120 down, we just want to make sure that we're covering you 335 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:11,760 » as well. I I agree it's low, but I'm I'm also a little worried about 336 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,919 » accessibility and if we made it too high. 337 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,360 » Again, I've got that same >> Yeah. So, 338 00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:23,440 » but I just want to make sure we balance that. I I will say Julie will say for 339 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:27,039 one thing for sure, she's terrified now of the these padded chairs with 340 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:30,480 frosting, red frosting getting ground into them. 341 00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:34,320 » So again, it's one of those >> but it's seriously that's how the 342 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:38,720 examples she used. But again, it's one of those things where if there is 343 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:43,200 excessive damage over the deposit, there are other avenues that the town could 344 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:49,520 take if it so choose to see >> agreed. I I just wanted to bring it up 345 00:26:45,679 --> 00:26:52,080 because a $50 deposit is not in today's world is 346 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:57,840 » when you buy a gallon more. >> Do you have a comment on this? 347 00:26:53,679 --> 00:27:04,799 » Tom McCarthy South Casco. So when uh organizations outside of the town uh 348 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:08,760 that I've been in have used the facility and a 401c3 349 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:18,480 uh if you go much more than $50 for a security deposit are going to go look 350 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:22,640 elsewhere. So if we haven't had problems with damage then my suggestion would be 351 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,880 to leave it at $50. >> That's fine. 352 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:32,000 » That's fine. Like I said, I'm just bringing up things that 353 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:39,600 Lord likes to me. And the last one, it's also in that same line was actually in 354 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:45,679 town man. Um, town manager re review. Let's see. Next one. Required damage 355 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:50,000 deposit. Um, why can't I find 356 00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:54,399 exactly what? Because what it says is the security deposit shall be collected 357 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:58,399 for the facility shoes that requires a reservation. 358 00:27:56,159 --> 00:28:04,320 And again, I'm I'm being devil's advocate here. 359 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:09,360 When you say requires a reservation, does that mean we need a security 360 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:12,799 deposit? And I know the answer, but again, 361 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:18,640 um for committee meetings because we have to reserve the the rooms, 362 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:23,360 do we have to pay the deposit? Trust me, I'm just being 363 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:28,399 » Yep. >> Yeah, you got to stand up. You got to 364 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:35,200 say who you are. Who are you? >> Beth Lazy, recreation director. Um, I 365 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:40,640 think that was more for somebody who scheduled a party again 366 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,320 that you know we shut down the room or there was two or three people that 367 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:50,720 wanted at the same time that there would be a consequence if they didn't didn't 368 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:54,480 use it cuz we have had people in the past that will say they want to have a 369 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,279 party and then then you know 10 minutes before it was supposed to start they 370 00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:02,000 call and say we don't need it. >> Right. And again, it's more just I want 371 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,760 to make sure all our verbiage right so that someone can't take it out of 372 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:10,320 context when they say, >> you know, how come what how come the 373 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,480 CPIC doesn't have to pay its damage deposit every time they reserve the 374 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:19,919 room? >> It is. Or water quality. We know how bad 375 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:22,159 that is. >> Wait, that means I would have to pay 376 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,559 too. >> Yeah, 377 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:28,480 » I think we just need to put some verbiage in there, 378 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:32,320 » right? saying that it's for private, you know, private res 379 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,720 » and you know, that's the whole purpose of this review is to check over and see 380 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,600 where we need to make changes and that's all I was bringing up. 381 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:52,159 » So, I have one other comment, Bob, and I apologize. I didn't uh see the revised 382 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:57,279 after it went through the attorney. Uh, does it still have in there the priority 383 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,159 order of booking? >> Yes. 384 00:29:57,679 --> 00:30:06,520 » Yes. >> Okay. And once it's booked, 385 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:06,520 then that group can't be bumped, 386 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,720 » Tony. >> Because I think any anything can be 387 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,240 bumped for depending on what the situation is. 388 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:23,279 » And again, it comes down to the town private priority list. Yeah. which is is 389 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:27,039 first obviously. >> So 390 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:34,960 if an organization books a room 6 months ahead, 391 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:37,960 validates that reservation a month ahead, 392 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:48,600 10 days ahead, they can be bumped for a non select board meeting. 393 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,600 I don't think that's fair. 394 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:57,000 And you're not going to get people to book the facility with those kind of 395 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 rules. 396 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,279 » Okay. >> I know the priority looking at the 397 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,600 priority order is number one is town boards and committees, meetings, and 398 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,520 functions. >> Right. Right. 399 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:09,120 » So they're going to be at the top of the list anyway. 400 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:12,960 » Correct. >> So 401 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:17,520 the only way they could be bumped if there was a select board issue. Correct. 402 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Well, I'm going say if what you're hear is 403 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:27,840 again, and I missed the first part, so I apologize for the if you're saying it's 404 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:32,320 a non a non- town board, someone's renting it and they have an emergency 405 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,320 aspect where they have to deal with the planning board or the site board, 406 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,440 » they can get bumped even if it was 10 days before something along. 407 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,039 » But I think Tom was and maybe I misunderstood you. You were talking 408 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:48,399 about this being a town board. >> No, no. Okay. Sorry. Uh in in this case 409 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:56,000 uh the lake association 410 00:31:52,240 --> 00:32:01,200 reserved the room in January, reverified it in May, and then were bumped 10 days 411 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:07,840 ahead of time. We were accommodated over in the old 412 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:11,679 bank or whatever that building was. I'll be honest, it was an embarrassment to 413 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:17,200 have a meeting there and 414 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:22,000 we should have a calendar that shows the bookings 415 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:26,159 and once you book it and you've paid your deposit, you shouldn't be able to 416 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:30,120 be bumped unless it's an emergency meeting of the select board. 417 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:39,440 » Okay. Yeah, >> we like I say this obviously will not be 418 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:47,519 approved tonight. Well, >> so so th those words I sent to uh Tony 419 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:54,840 a couple weeks ago when this first came out. So, I'd appreciate if something 420 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,840 along those lines could be incorporated. 421 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:12,080 » Sam Brown, I'm Hill Road. Um, if I could ask a couple questions. Um, I don't see 422 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:17,519 in the in the draft here it it it says there's a subheading it item G which 423 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:21,919 lists fees, but I don't see anywhere else in the draft where fees are 424 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,960 outlined. Did I miss it? Is it are they outlined in this? 425 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:29,840 » It says says it should be the amount specified on the town fee schedule. 426 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:34,480 » I see. So that's supplement. That's separate that's separate piece. 427 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:40,640 » Yep. And um [clears throat] is the is the spirit of the program to try to 428 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:46,960 promote more use of this facility by other groups and potentially drive re 429 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:51,840 drive it as a revenue source. >> I I'll speak when I worked on this. This 430 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:57,200 was not and my intention was not ever to make this a sole revenue source. It to 431 00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:02,720 me it's a community center. It's trying to develop the spirit of community 432 00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:05,600 trying to enhance use of of it. So, and trying to make it cost neutral 433 00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:11,200 associated with that as much as possible. And then along with that would 434 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:16,800 be would there be um sort of an application that you know a an applicant 435 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,760 would download and submit and for formally fill out and 436 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:29,280 » um okay because I I do see the priority list um which is listed under 437 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:34,079 uh provide email. So it's priority of use. It shows town boards, town 438 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:38,879 departments, service groups, special events, special interest groups, and 439 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:42,320 that's the priority list. Um because I the reason I'm asking is similar to Tom, 440 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:50,320 you know, we host our open space meetings here and safe streets meetings. 441 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:54,800 Um the uh um precedent currently whether it's right or wrong is generally I 442 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:59,760 create a a calendar invite and invite Tony and Beth to it and assume that 443 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:05,520 they're going to and Allison Griffin and then presume that because those meets 444 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:12,000 are scheduled open space is third Monday and um uh St. is third Wednesday. So 445 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:15,119 it's more of a reminder. Um, but I guess we would I would like to get some 446 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:19,040 clarity around whether that will continue in that fashion or whether we 447 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:23,200 it would be more formal. >> Again, I would much prefer a more formal 448 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:28,400 process where you just fill it out. Again, it's one application do it for a 449 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,560 year and that way it's on on the cat way. 450 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:34,000 » Yeah. And then I agree with Tom like ideally there would be a calendar where 451 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,760 and there is a calendar on the website but not all meetings are always are 452 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,280 always posted. We're working I have multiple calendars 453 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,640 with our new website which will hopefully alleviate some of that 454 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,920 aspects. >> Great. 455 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:52,240 » We're working at better communications. >> I know you are. 456 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:57,440 » So we are >> okay. 457 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:02,480 » So does anyone else have anything to >> I have a question on the on the damage 458 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:08,240 deposit which is $50 >> and then [clears throat] it says fees. 459 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:12,960 But if we if we have to do a cleanup after the event or whatever they're 460 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:20,560 doing, would that be taken out of the deposit for for the damage fee? In other 461 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:25,760 words, if Beth comes in, she has to have cleanup people come in and clean up that 462 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:32,000 room where they leave it a mess. Will that money can we recoup that money from 463 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:35,920 that $50? If you're saying beyond the traditional, you know, we're going to 464 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:38,480 have a put the chairs out in like that. If they have to come in and do a 465 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:44,760 scrubbing cleaning and something like that, that would come out of those fees. 466 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,760 » Okay. Thank you. 467 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,760 » Do we have any Sounds like this one's still in the 468 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:07,119 works. >> Yeah, this one that both of them are 469 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:14,480 still in the works. Okay, >> there's some good things in this sample 470 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:21,760 policy from MMA. I just think there I think it's something that can be tweaked 471 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:25,599 and what I'll do is I'll send the board my 472 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,480 my AI report. >> Perfect. Okay, 473 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:36,079 » I'd send it now, but I only have the one copy and I've already made notes on it. 474 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:40,640 » But it basically took MMAs and just made it easier to understand. 475 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,920 » I'm sure Joe, you understood it exactly as it was written. 476 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:49,200 » It was definitely missing the nuances and we needed to make it our own. 477 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:53,440 » Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. >> Uh Amy Brown don't know is this an 478 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:57,280 appropriate time for an update on the meeting room? 479 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:03,599 Yes, it would be. Yes, it would be. >> Okay, thank you. 480 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:08,640 » Do we have an update on the meeting? >> Courtney Walsh, Johnson Hill Road. 481 00:38:07,286 --> 00:38:15,119 [clears throat] >> I would just like to submit my 482 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:19,920 preference of AI usage for our town. And I 483 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:26,800 understand that there's lots of new tools and everything, 484 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:33,440 but I have a real concern with us just using chat GPT or whatever to create our 485 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:39,200 documents. And I just want to make sure that we're reviewing them and fully 486 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:44,720 and I just want you to remember the impact 487 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:52,560 on the environment as well. Well, try I am the number one opponent to AI. I 488 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:56,720 don't like it, but I did it. I had a few minutes this afternoon, so I But even 489 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,720 then, I ran it through three times because I didn't like the way it was 490 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:02,320 coming up. >> Yeah. 491 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:06,480 » So, and then I sent it to Tony. >> Great. I just want to be careful if 492 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:10,800 we're just creating everything through AI that 493 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:14,720 » we're missing, right? >> We're kind of missing things. So, 494 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,359 » yeah. >> Do we have an update on that? 495 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,520 » No. >> No. Okay. 496 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:23,920 » Um, and I'll ABL the board right now that policy. 497 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:27,200 » So, he's going to >> Tonyy's going to email you my draft 498 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,040 right now. >> We just need to remind ourselves this is 499 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,480 a small community >> and the issues that come up with the use 500 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:40,800 of this facility about it, it's it's about it being a small community. So if 501 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:46,880 it's a snow day for the down the street, is it a snow day here or is it not? The 502 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:53,119 pickle ballers come when it's snow, sleep, rain, uh hurricanes, they want to 503 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,880 play pickle ball. Um and I'm I'm just I'm just talking like how how this 504 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,160 facility works, right? We heard from them in the past about if it's closed 505 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:06,800 down there, does it mean it's closed here? And we've been we've been uh I'd 506 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:10,560 say Beth's been super flexible to make sure that this these doors stay open as 507 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,119 much as possible. But that's the stuff we need to touch on this document, that 508 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:21,520 small town stuff, just to make sure that it feels equal and feels the same for 509 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:26,079 everybody. And um so that's the piece that we've got to 510 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:30,640 kind of like focus on. on the simply stated that this this document will 511 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:34,160 satisfy how we use the building, but we got to highlight a couple of those 512 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:39,119 things that we've heard about in the last two to 5 years about the use of 513 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:44,720 this facility. Those are the things that you just need to know, right? So, uh and 514 00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:49,960 it sets the groundwork for everybody see the document. This is how it works. 515 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,960 » Yep. 516 00:40:50,880 --> 00:41:00,359 » Okay. So, we will scratch Moving on. I think we're at water 517 00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:00,359 quality. 518 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:16,480 So, Tom McCarthy, South Casco. So, on April 2nd of 2025, we held the 519 00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:21,200 first water quality ad hoc committee meeting. 520 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:31,440 In January of this year, we submitted the draft to the select board. 521 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:36,400 We also had a peer review by LEA, Lakes of Maine, Lake Stewarts, Lake Smart, and 522 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:43,359 Raymond Waterways. We also had review by the select board 523 00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:50,240 and the town staff. We have incorporated all of those comments. 524 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:57,040 We then had Courtney do a phenomenal job doing the graphic arts and formatting. 525 00:41:53,520 --> 00:42:03,359 So I am very happy to say that the work of 526 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:11,440 Sarah Ferry, Jim Arsham, Diane Cormier, Pam Edwards, Maggie Monarch, 527 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:17,760 Levi Thornton, and Eileene Tid 528 00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:22,960 resulted in what I believe is a phenomenal document. We have gotten a 529 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:29,040 lot of requests from people outside of Casco for copies of this document and I 530 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,359 told them that soon as you approved it, we would get it to them. So, tonight 531 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:38,000 we're requesting that the select board approve the water quality plan for the 532 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:41,520 town of Casc. Any questions? 533 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:48,079 » Anybody have a question? >> Yeah, I've got a a few. Um, so first 534 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:53,440 off, I went through it. graphics fantastic. A lot of the 535 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:59,920 content's great. Um, one of the things that I've realized when I started 536 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:05,760 running for this seat was water quality is a major component of a concern area 537 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:12,160 for a lot of the residents in this town and your committee is extremely 538 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:19,200 important. Um, and I definitely think we have a good start to a water quality 539 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:25,839 plan, but I'm concerned that there could be a little more opportunity for 540 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:30,560 more of a detailed list of what the goals are and what the committee wants 541 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:35,359 to accomplish. Some of the things that jumped out to me when I started going 542 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:40,400 through the plan was um I saw the reference to the task the water quality 543 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:47,520 ordinance task force. I think that's a great thing to include to have and focus 544 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:50,880 on you know not only because it looked like it looked correct me if I'm wrong 545 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,560 but it looked to me that a focus of the task force was to come up with 546 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:57,280 ordinances that could be recommended for future application. 547 00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:03,200 » Yes. And I was also curious what we're doing 548 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,839 and what we're planning to do as a committee 549 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:10,240 to enforce the ordinances we have in place today as well. 550 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:14,800 » So >> working with the CEO and how that 551 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:19,440 relationship is developed. >> So we we were given some pretty 552 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,599 straightforward guidance that this committee is not an enforcement 553 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:31,200 organization. Uh what we do is we will review 554 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:36,560 uh things from the planning board which we've already started and then we make a 555 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:42,720 recommendation to the planning board and the CEO and the town manager 556 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:48,480 and the next step on this plan and it's a living document. So as time goes on 557 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,760 and we also didn't include lakes and streams in here 558 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:56,640 » because we wanted to get it done focus on lakes 559 00:44:53,119 --> 00:45:02,319 » but the next step by the committee is to put together the water quality policy 560 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:06,720 for the town and that will have more implementation type uh items in it. 561 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,400 Okay, >> that you know the CEO will do XYZ and 562 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:18,800 the select board will do this and the committee will do that. But the as far 563 00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:23,119 as the ordinances to uh 564 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:27,920 put requirements in place at an ordinance level, that's where we said 565 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:31,680 we're going to do the task force which will kind of like we did with the 566 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,480 village. It will not just be the water quality committee looking at it because 567 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:42,400 any ordinance that affects water is really going to be a zoning type 568 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:46,560 ordinance which then absolutely requires the planning board and then the select 569 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:51,119 board and then it's got to be taken to a town meeting. Uh 570 00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:56,400 so this this document is the top level plan 571 00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:58,960 that will live and grow and the next step is the policy for the 572 00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:05,280 implementation. >> Okay. And okay, so then with that in 573 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:10,560 mind and you mentioned and I saw in here this didn't cover streams and rivers or 574 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:15,599 anything like that yet. Um but I don't think I saw maybe this is part of the 575 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:20,560 future plan anything about groundwater quality and 576 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:28,079 » I think that's probably beyond our capabilities to uh get into. Uh I did go 577 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:35,440 to the main lakes conference this year and talk to the state geologist 578 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:38,880 uh and there was discussions about the aquifers and the capacity of the 579 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:42,720 aquifers. They can predict sand and gravel 580 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,359 aquifers but they have no clue of the capacity of 581 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:52,560 a bedrock aquifer which is kind of scary seeing that a lot 582 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:58,640 of Casco has bedrock aquifers. Mhm. >> So when we start looking in the planning 583 00:46:55,359 --> 00:47:02,560 board or even in the village zoning, we talk about growth and these kinds of 584 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,119 things. How much water is there? >> Yeah. 585 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:10,400 » And if we're sitting on bedrock, how much water can we pull out 586 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:16,560 » and how much septic can go back in when you only have a couple feet of uh soil 587 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:21,839 above bedrock. So, it is something the town needs to address, but it's going to 588 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,000 be something that we're going to have to go to the state geologist to get 589 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:30,560 knowledge. It It's not something that we could do at the water quality committee, 590 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,000 although it's critically important. >> Okay. 591 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:39,359 » Yeah. Because that's something that definitely worries me. I mean, we've had 592 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:46,480 a couple of droughts in the recent years and that has impacted groundwater level 593 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:50,560 as well as beyond just level and aquifer uh replenishment. Always also concerned 594 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:57,839 about um contamination potentially from 595 00:47:54,319 --> 00:48:01,280 pesticide use or fungicides or whatever else somebody might be putting on their 596 00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:06,720 lawns. So, that's been another concern of mine. So, so one of the things in the 597 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:12,000 plan is to uh coordinate with lake associations and 598 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:17,920 do watershed surveys. So, that water a watershed survey will 599 00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:23,119 point out those types of things. Uh we've already kicked off the first 600 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:27,680 watershed survey that uh is in coordination with Thomas Pond because 601 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,960 somebody just happens to be on that board. 602 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:37,760 And matter of fact, we got a meeting with DP on Monday to kick that off. So, 603 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:44,319 uh, Thompson Lake has just finished theirs. I believe Crescent Lake has done 604 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:49,359 one fairly recently also, but there's 18 watersheds in Casco. 605 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:54,960 Most of them end up in Sebago, but about a third of them uh end up going east and 606 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:59,520 north. Uh so a as we work through and we are 607 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:03,520 working with the lake associations uh we've had good response with meetings 608 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:08,480 with lake associations so it's going to be a coordinated effort with them uh 609 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:15,839 watershed surveys are important and with that we can also uh we're working with 610 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:22,559 open space and CPIC on as we go forward on looking at zoning uh for residential 611 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:25,920 uh CPIC is has a subcommittee that's working to pull something together to 612 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,680 bring to you guys in the very near future. 613 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:34,559 » Okay. And this might be more of a question for you guys because I wasn't 614 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:40,480 here when the water committee was charged, so it might just be me not 615 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:49,680 having that information. Um, what is the long-term plan to look at uh 616 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:54,559 enforcement from some of the things that could come from new if if a new code is 617 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,119 recommended for example and then we were to vote on it, approve it, is that 618 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:02,079 something we're going to just work through the CEO with to make sure it 619 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:06,079 gets enforced and do we have some insight in how the water quality 620 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:11,119 committee can work with the CEO in the future? 621 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:16,319 what the legal has advised on that they should is to prevent them from being 622 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:19,280 quasi legal aspect or authority. >> So no testing or anything, 623 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:24,240 » you know, their aspect is if they're worried about um violations or the 624 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:29,599 observations, it is then their role to report to D code enforcement and they'd 625 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:33,680 be the enforcement mechanisms. >> Yeah. Absolutely. 626 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:39,119 And the lake associations kind of like the idea that the town had a water 627 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:42,960 quality committee. So when they have concerns, they can bring it to water 628 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:48,000 quality committee who will then take it to the CEO and then they're not tattling 629 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:55,010 on their neighbor and then you you get, you know, animosity on a lake and that's 630 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:55,010 a [laughter] 631 00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:02,240 » Yeah. >> Any other questions? 632 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:06,720 Uh I I just have one. It's kind of a big question, but um I was just wondering 633 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:12,480 what criteria you use for the watersheds because I know it been discussed and 634 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:17,359 that it is a very important part of this plan. I was just wondering what criteria 635 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:22,079 you used in determining what was the watershed over. 636 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:26,880 » So So the watersheds came from uh the state. 637 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:30,640 » Okay. So th they are documented available online. Uh they're also in the 638 00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:36,640 plan. >> Yeah. 639 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:43,839 » But uh we also uh a new tool that I'm working with uh a gentleman in my lake 640 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:48,400 association is an AI tool to do storm water runoff. 641 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:54,720 And we're already doing testing of that tool uh and have a very good correlation 642 00:51:51,920 --> 00:52:02,559 with the water level in Thomas Pond based on the rain. Uh it's an AI based 643 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:07,920 tool that uses space sensors uh numerous databases 644 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:16,000 uh and it can tell you how dry the ground is. It has elevation levels. it 645 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:22,000 can do storm water flow runoffs and we'll be using that uh we're going to go 646 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:27,040 over it with the D on Monday and see if she's interested in expanded use of that 647 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:32,160 tool for doing watershed surveys. >> Awesome. 648 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:36,800 » Good. Just you know it's just curious >> because I want to make sure our wersheds 649 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:41,119 are protected and that we've got them all in there or 650 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:46,280 » you got 18 of them. There's no piece of land in Casco that's not in a lake 651 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,280 watershed. 652 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:54,240 » So, just to jump in here again, and I appreciate the additional clarification 653 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:59,119 cuz like I said, I wasn't here when the water was initially charged. 654 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:02,480 » Um, >> I may have missed it. Let me know if 655 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:08,000 it's if I missed it in here somewhere, but just um is there a general timeline 656 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:12,079 for some of your goals and >> No, it's just left open. 657 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:17,760 » No, it was left open. So, some we might be able to get to soon. Some of them uh 658 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:24,319 are going to take longer. You know, you currently have seven people doing this 659 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:29,200 work in concert with the town staff. I do believe we asked for nine at one of 660 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:35,040 the meetings recently and I think you voted yes but I don't think it's been 661 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:39,680 documented anywhere. So it as for approval of this plan if we could also 662 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:43,760 add in to make the committee nine people I 663 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:49,200 » I actually looked at past minutes and confirmed that when it was approved it 664 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:53,119 was approved at nine. So it already it it is already mine as 665 00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:57,880 my understanding >> unless anybody disagrees. 666 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:05,000 » Okay. >> Anything else, Joe? 667 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000 » Um 668 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:13,280 I think w with the understanding that there's a more in-depth plan coming down 669 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:17,440 the line, I feel better about what we have today knowing that it's kind of an 670 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:23,599 outline document and it's a great place to start. I think it's a great document. 671 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:27,680 I I always like concrete timelines, but I do too. Trust me, 672 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:31,200 » I understand. Yep. So, you know, I appreciate the information. Thank you. 673 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:36,440 » Yeah. Okay. Coming from the military to municipal government. Okay. 674 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:41,680 » Okay. >> Um 675 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:46,800 I read this policy a dozen times upside down 676 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:52,240 everywhere around. And I think that and I was the select board representative to 677 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:57,200 this group and I got a chance to to see them doing their work and I think it's a 678 00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:02,240 tremendous plan and I think we should just go ahead and approve it and let's 679 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:07,119 let these guys move on to their next tasks. So, I'm going to make a motion 680 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:11,760 that we go ahead and approve the water quality plan that's presented 681 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:16,480 by the water quality committee and also to make sure that the committee is at 682 00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:18,640 nine members. >> Okay, 683 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:24,720 » I'll second that. >> All right, so I have a motion and a 684 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:29,680 second. Do I have any discussion? The only thing I'm going to add is that 685 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:33,839 when open space came before us, we didn't we asked for a second reading on 686 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,160 that >> before we've approved it and we have not 687 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:42,400 yet approved it. Right. So, just trying to be fair. 688 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,640 » So, so you've had two different readings, 689 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:49,000 » right? >> Two different documents, two different 690 00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:00,799 I'm comfortable. >> Okay. If Okay. If you're all 691 00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:05,720 comfortable, I'm ready to go. All in favor? 692 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:05,720 » 5. 693 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:17,160 » Thank you. And with that, I got to get back to my grandkids 694 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,160 before my wife takes me in. 695 00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:22,480 » Bob, thank you. >> Just a comment. This is this is great 696 00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:28,960 work by our community, right? This is this is a very clear proper step in this 697 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:31,839 process. Um the more eyes the better we have when we're talking about water 698 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:36,559 quality. That's what they told us, right? They want us to pay attention to 699 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:42,720 it. The more eyes the better. So um if it's if it's uh this is step one or step 700 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:46,000 three or four in the process, we just got to keep moving. 701 00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:50,480 » I I definitely agree. We got to keep moving. 702 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:54,480 I just wanted I also wanted to this was done without a contractor support that 703 00:56:52,960 --> 00:57:00,200 this was all >> by the committee and then court 704 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,200 polishing. 705 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,319 » We appreciate your work, Tom. We really do. 706 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:05,599 » Now we just need to keep the momentum going. 707 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,839 » Absolutely. >> Yep. 708 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:12,480 » Thank you. >> Thank you, Tom. Have a good night. 709 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:17,040 » Now we will receive an update from the recreational department program and 710 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,040 community center. Where was my 72 question? 711 00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:26,640 Nothing. >> Nice. 712 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:30,640 Okay. So, I'm going to start out by telling 713 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:36,319 everybody if you have little ones or anybody that's interested, uh, Thursday 714 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:41,040 we have kite day up at Hackers Hill. Um, and it's, if you've been there before, 715 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:46,400 it's a it's a great great atmosphere and all the kids get to have kites and 716 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:52,000 they're free and Maggie from Loe Echo and myself and John Martin who brings 717 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:57,520 the kites. Um, we have a blast and we watch them fly them and everything. So, 718 00:57:53,599 --> 00:58:00,960 that's Thursday at 10:00. So, I'll move on. Just give you some 719 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:07,200 information of where we're at and what we're doing. Um, right now summer camp, 720 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:11,520 we have an average of 20 kids that are there. They're having they're having a 721 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:18,240 blast in the community center. Um, we're going tubing. We've gone um kaying. 722 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:27,040 We're going to Bridton and do some stuff up there tomorrow. Um, we went to the 723 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:29,359 Mad Science. We went to We've done all different kinds of things. It's a great 724 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:36,240 group of kids and they're having a blast. So, that's going on here. Um, 725 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:42,079 swim lessons, we had two two week sessions down at the at the beach here. 726 00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:49,599 It was about 80 participants. And then in the winter and spring, we have a 727 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:55,680 spring two week and um a winter one. We had over six 60 we had 62 involved in 728 00:58:52,880 --> 00:59:00,240 that. And I would like to try to add another session um as soon as we can 729 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:05,520 next year. We're one of the only towns that offers 730 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:09,839 swim lessons in this area. Um, and it there's a there's a huge need for it. I 731 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:13,599 personally think that every child should be able to swim for nothing. We live in 732 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:17,119 all these lakes. We talk about water quality and everything else. And the 733 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:21,040 kids that get in the water that don't know how to swim and it just it kind of 734 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:24,640 just, you know, I think it's we're we're doing the right thing with all the 735 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:29,440 lessons that we have. We just don't have enough instructors to keep it going. And 736 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:35,599 um so that's something that we we're trying to work on. Um tennis lessons we 737 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:41,920 had we had eight participants in that. Um and that's average of what we have. 738 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:47,839 Again, we're the only town that you know has provides that for the community. So 739 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:53,200 that's kind of neat. Um, the one thing that that I will talk a little bit about 740 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:57,280 because all of you that know me know that I love kids, but I love love love 741 00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,359 the seniors and I try to do as much as I can for them. A lot of times recreation 742 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:06,319 departments, they think of kids and adults, but they kind of don't think 743 01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:13,520 about the seniors. We currently have a Monday morning or Monday Monday lunch 744 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:18,000 here. Um, Linda Allen and Jan McGrath are the ones that cook it. Um, we have 745 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:23,119 probably around 40 people that are using it now. They come in, they play tribage, 746 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:28,640 they play cards, they talk to each other, they have they have lunch, and 747 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:33,440 then and then they leave later. Um, I have been in touch with um Southern 748 01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:38,480 Maine MA agency on aging. Talked to them last week. We are going 749 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:44,799 to be doing one day a week that they will take over and do it all. They'll 750 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:48,240 come here. um we will take um people that that have parents that they're 751 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:52,079 taking care of that would like to get away for the day or anything like that. 752 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,079 They're going to come down here. They'll have six people. They'll take care of 753 01:00:54,160 --> 01:01:00,640 the person that's here while the family goes shopping or does whatever they 754 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:05,440 want. Um and it'll be like a three-hour 3-hour thing that will happen. The other 755 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:10,640 thing that we're doing is we're getting a second lunchon through them. Um, and 756 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:14,960 they again will come down and they'll get everything set up. All we have to do 757 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,880 is pick the restaurant in the area that we want to provide the food and they 758 01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:22,160 will pay for it all. So, this is all free and it's some some really cool 759 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,280 stuff that we're doing for our seniors. So, that's that's something that they 760 01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:30,720 they'll have three days a week which is really good. Um, 761 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:35,200 we are two spots open for Cabbage Island. We're 762 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:40,079 going there on the 18th. So, looking forward to that. Um things that we 763 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:45,680 offer, we're going to be offering is is field hockey, basketball, softball, 764 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:52,000 baseball, run club, karate. Um we're coming back with chess and cribage for 765 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:57,040 the kids here after school. Um right now we have Amy might be able to tell me if 766 01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:01,599 it's it's more, but right now we have pickle ball. We have nine sessions plus 767 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:05,839 three at Crooked River. Um, I think we're probably up from that, right, with 768 01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:11,280 Libby Park and everything else. But, um, that's all. If you if you like the the 769 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:15,520 sound of pickle balls, just come sit at my office and have 770 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:20,000 coffee some morning. The funny part about it is I live in 771 01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:23,680 front of Lon Haven in Naples and they have pickle ball courts right outside of 772 01:02:21,839 --> 01:02:30,079 my backyard. So, I don't even it doesn't even bother me anymore. Um, so, uh, we 773 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:35,920 we currently have yoga two times a week, Saturdays and Thursdays. We are coming 774 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:40,240 back this year, Friday nights with the teen center here. We're going to have it 775 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,440 open for for kids to I mean, I think your kids invol were involved in that a 776 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,640 long time ago. So, we're going to bring it back and it's going to be really fun 777 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:51,119 for kids to go in different rooms and have different things to just hang out 778 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:56,319 with their friends and family can drop them off and they can go have dinner 779 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:59,839 someplace and it's nice. Um, right now because of camp we don't have playg 780 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:04,720 group but that's coming back. We have all kinds of toys and jumpy houses and 781 01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:09,920 all that stuff that we put in the gymnasium. And we probably have, I don't 782 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:14,559 know, between 15 and 20 kids that come in here and and utilize the space, play 783 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:20,480 music and and everything like that. And the parents like it too. Um, adult 784 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:25,839 basketball, we have Monday, Wednesdays, menly men's league on Sundays, and 785 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:29,839 signups for that are coming up now. Um, we have adult volleyball in the 786 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:34,400 community center. um holiday celebrations, Easter, Christmas, 787 01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:41,039 Halloween. Um and then we have the quilters and veterans committee that 788 01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:45,839 come in here. Um there are five committees that meet in the community 789 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:50,640 center as well as the planning boards uh zoning board of appeals and the 790 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:55,039 select board. Um and we have many requests for birthday parties and other 791 01:03:52,480 --> 01:04:01,119 family gatherings. So that's pretty much what we're doing right now. So, 792 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:04,640 any questions or >> Wow. 793 01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:08,160 » That's all. >> Come on. There's got to be a little room 794 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:11,760 for something. >> Beth, I think you know 795 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:18,000 » I can I say one thing while while we're while we're talking is what going back 796 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,880 to what Grant said, um I think it's I and I don't really honestly I don't want 797 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:26,400 to say this, but I don't know where we ended up. I think that when we have snow 798 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:30,319 days and stuff like that, obviously not when it's dangerous to be to be out 799 01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:34,480 riding, but I think that it's really good for pickle ballers or kids that, 800 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:39,280 you know, have a snow day or whatever to be able to come down here and and and be 801 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:43,920 able to use obviously with a parent or with somebody and be able to use the 802 01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:48,640 community center um even though the other spots are are closed. So, sorry. 803 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,000 » So, good. >> So, go ahead. I think you and I have 804 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:56,079 talked long enough and you know how special I think you are, but I don't 805 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:59,359 think the town's people realize just exactly what we have in Casper for a 806 01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:03,440 recreation program. >> Thank you. 807 01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:08,960 » Just just the swimming lessons alone tells how much that our recck department 808 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:12,559 cares about our kids and with all the opportunities that our kids are being 809 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:17,039 given right now. if it wasn't for those opportunities and I saw it firsthand 810 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:21,760 having two young boys who went through everything in the wreck program and that 811 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:25,920 makes those that molds those kids into what they are today. You know the 812 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,640 coaches the volunteer coaches who are absolutely fantastic. 813 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:32,720 » Couldn't do that. >> My my boys were fortunate enough to grow 814 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:37,520 up in the Brian Crockett and Jerry Simpson days 815 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:42,960 » and and because of that they're who they are today. So if you don't realize to 816 01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:46,720 the town's people, if you don't realize what we have for a wreck program, look 817 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:50,160 into it, you'll thank you'll thank everybody 818 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:54,000 later for looking at it. Your kids will thank you for looking at it because it's 819 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,680 an absolutely amazing program. >> And I do want to while while we're 820 01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:02,799 talking about that, I do want to to everybody to know that my door is always 821 01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:06,720 open. I never shut it unless I'm it's something that I have to do. Anybody is 822 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:11,440 welcome to go. I have kids that come in and, you know, want just want to talk or 823 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:16,160 whatever and and seniors. So, anybody that just wants to come down and chat, I 824 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,000 love that. >> Am I good? 825 01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:22,280 » Thanks for all that you do. >> Yes. 826 01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:22,280 » Okay, good. 827 01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:33,440 » Courtney Walsh, Johnson Hill. Um, Beth, I just wanted to suggest my family in 828 01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:38,079 particular would love an open gym situation. I don't know logistically how 829 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:43,839 that works, but I do feel the desire from, you know, I have a 12-year-old to 830 01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:47,520 like just come down and play. And I'm sure you would say yes, but I think 831 01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:52,880 having something more formal on the calendar might be a great idea. Anyways, 832 01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:58,480 nice work. >> Thank you. 833 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:04,200 » Okay, moving along. This board will discuss the September 26th community 834 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,200 event. 835 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,280 You think the girl? Let's go. 836 01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:18,319 » She doesn't need any help. >> Been ganging up on. 837 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:26,079 » Yeah. >> Uh hi. Um 838 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:29,200 we have taken the ball and Oh, >> we're here. 839 01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:35,920 » Oh, wonderful. Um, I've got Janet and Pam here and we are taking on the first 840 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:40,480 ever uh Casco Community Fest. That's what we're calling it. Um, we have 841 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:48,480 confirmed that the last Saturday in September is going to be from 3 to 6 at 842 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:55,440 the Casco Community Park. Um, one of our largest incentives to do this 843 01:07:52,240 --> 01:08:02,240 is coming directly from the comprehensive plan. um to engage more 844 01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:05,680 with the community and to call in more volunteerism. 845 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:11,200 Did I get that right? >> So far so great. 846 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:17,759 » Um so leading with that um I believe that if we are to call more people in to 847 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:23,759 serve our town um we have to give them a reason to gather and fun and joy is 848 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:29,120 always important. um through the work I did with the branding project um 849 01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:34,799 interviewing people around town um there was a common thread that people want 850 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:40,159 Casco to be more than just Casco days and I think that this is a really 851 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:46,400 exciting step in that direction. Um the main component 852 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:54,080 that we are um kind of focusing on is the meet and greet and we are asking 853 01:08:49,600 --> 01:09:02,480 that all departments, committees and clubs in town have a presence have a 854 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:08,319 table presence and um I am going to be creating a passport of 855 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:14,239 sorts and every every table's is going to have a stamp and we're going to be um 856 01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:20,080 I think I think making a sticker pack from the new branding as a reward for 857 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:25,600 stopping at all the um tables. We're still working that out, but some sort of 858 01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:34,239 version of that to incentivize people um for the meet and greet. Um besides that, 859 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:41,440 we have hired a DJ, a local DJ to Casco um Joe Lurman. Um, we uh got approved to 860 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:47,199 use the snack shack or the concession stand. Um, we are going to have some 861 01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:51,759 sort of food option. We are currently trying to sus out if there's any food 862 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:59,040 trucks that are available on such short notice on such a small budget. Um, TBD 863 01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:03,440 on that. Um, we since we're doing it at the community park, there is the 864 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:08,880 playground for younger children and we're hopefully going to be doing a mini 865 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:14,640 touch a truck which is like where kids can climb in the trucks and stuff. I' I 866 01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:22,000 spoke to Chief. He says that he would be on board for participating. Um, let's 867 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:28,400 see what else. Um, I'm hopeful that Oh, the library is going to do a story walk 868 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:32,000 on the trail where the um spooky trail is in the fall. The other clubs that are 869 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:39,600 going to be >> Oh, sure. The clubs that we are inviting 870 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:47,920 to participate include um uh the snowmobile club, the ATV club, 871 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:53,440 Lunco Land Trust, um the Run Club. Were they on our list? 872 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:59,360 » And we are >> the and the historical society. 873 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:05,800 » I is connect with cast. >> Okay. 874 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,800 » Okay. Great. Um, 875 01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:15,120 I'm I'm looking to do some sort of community engagement activity. I would 876 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:20,640 love to have a cornhole tournament. Um, and with early signups and, you know, 877 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:27,840 encouraging teams and silliness and fun and joy. Um, but we are working very 878 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:37,800 hard. We're meeting every week to move this down the field and um it's coming 879 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:37,800 up fast. So, do you have questions? 880 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:45,280 No. I think it's a great idea to get the community involved in any way possible 881 01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:51,199 and to find ways to get get them out of their comfort zone and get them to see 882 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:55,760 other people in the community so that they can work can learn and you 883 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:59,440 know learn who your neighbor is. >> Yeah. Oh, speaking of we're going to 884 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:03,760 have name tags which I'm quite excited about. 885 01:12:01,739 --> 01:12:03,760 [laughter] 886 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,560 Um, >> no, I think uh being involved in the 887 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:12,159 Halloween event that happens there, I know that's a a heavy hitter, but 888 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:16,880 parking does >> sort of 889 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:21,199 could potentially be problematic. So, I would say uh do anything you can to 890 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:27,120 notify the neighbors and talk to the neighbors about an overflow idea. Um, 891 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:31,600 for the Halloween vent event, Beth does a nice job notifying the neighborhood 892 01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:37,360 and they allow us some overflow parking for the volunteers down the edge of that 893 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:42,719 road, but just use one side of the road. So, um, I think that's just good. 894 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:48,320 » Yeah, we actually to consider. >> Thank you. We actually have a plan to do 895 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:52,960 auxiliary parking on the Berry property and shuttling 896 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:58,000 » over um Good. Good job telling people that. 897 01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:02,560 » Yeah, that's good. Um, 898 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:07,520 Beth, I will talk to talk to you just if you want to pass any wisdom down from 899 01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:11,080 doing an event there anymore. Did you have a question? 900 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:21,280 » I Sam Brown Pine Hill Road. I just want to comment that um you know we having 901 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:25,520 participated in municipal effort to create better engagement over the last 902 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:29,360 several years. Uh I think the town should take a bow for the three 903 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:33,760 significant engagement events that are on our calendar here in the in the next 904 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:37,360 6 weeks. Uh Wednesday next week we have the Webs Mills uh engagement event 905 01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:42,640 that's happening right in Webs Mills regarding the the four-way and safe 906 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:46,320 streets and GP COG. Um September 15th we have the village partnership or rather 907 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,679 the village district work that's happening here on your select board 908 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:54,560 meeting and then this will be the sort of third event that's coming up um 909 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:57,360 really all in the next six weeks. Um I was commenting to the comp plan 910 01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:02,080 implementation committee on Thursday last week that I don't think currently 911 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:07,120 it's easy for someone who doesn't know about it to go to the website and find 912 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:11,840 out about all three of these things. Um, so I would ask that uh the town manager 913 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:16,719 and the uh communications director consider as you work on the the calendar 914 01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:20,560 itself someplace where it just says, "Hey, look at all these great community 915 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:24,880 engagement events that are happening. Please come out and join us cuz I think 916 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:28,320 this is a great great event and well, I'll be there to support it." 917 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:34,960 » Thank you. >> Um, something else to mention, we're 918 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:39,840 working with Allison. she is our member from the town. Um the save the date is 919 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:45,440 going to go out tomorrow. So if any of you are on social and want to push that 920 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:52,159 further that would be great. Um and the last time we spoke we were looking for a 921 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:56,080 liaison from the select board. So we are still open 922 01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:01,199 and looking for that. 923 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:05,199 » What do you mean? [laughter] Yeah, that that's my problem. 924 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:08,800 » That what are your meeting? >> Um, right now we're meeting at a time 925 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,040 that Joe can't come, but we are happy to change it, 926 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,080 » which would be my problem also. >> Yeah, 927 01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:17,360 » Thursdays at at 300 p.m. is what we're doing now. 928 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:22,719 » Yeah, Thursday is my worst day cuz I have meetings until 5:30. 929 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:25,920 » We're willing to change to have one of you um involved. 930 01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:30,960 » More than happy to do that. >> Joe was raising his hand while I grabbed 931 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:37,280 his arm. Oh yeah, everybody's aware. >> I saw the muscle radius level. 932 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:39,760 » We accept Joe. We accept you. >> Can we push the meeting back? 933 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,840 » Maybe. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. 934 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,679 » That would probably work better. >> Yeah, I think we're pretty flexible. 935 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:48,800 » Yeah, it would have to be, you know, again, 936 01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:53,520 » I'll send out an email. >> Okay. really excited about this and I 937 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:58,080 think it is a fantastic thing and I'm really excited to keep hearing more as 938 01:15:55,440 --> 01:16:03,440 you guys go along >> and we would also like the select board 939 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:09,040 to have uh a table there as well. >> Sure, we'll be there. 940 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:12,880 » We'll make up a cornhole team this morning. 941 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:17,199 » I just want to reemphasize that really the the main purpose of this was to do 942 01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:19,760 the meet and greet piece. And so you mentioned earlier how it's too bad 943 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:23,280 people didn't know about the wreck. Well, wreck would have a table. Our hope 944 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:28,000 is that wreck has a table. >> And so they would present themselves and 945 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:32,640 this is really just let our community know what the town is doing with their 946 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:36,640 select boards, their committees, everything that's going on. And that 947 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:41,920 component of coming together as a community is is the draw, the fun part 948 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:45,600 of it. So yeah, >> and I agree. If you see it come out on 949 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:48,560 your social media tomorrow to save the day, please everybody share it as much 950 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:52,320 as we can. >> And anyone who wants to volunteer, 951 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:55,440 please come our way. I mean, I'm assuming everybody else is on a board 952 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:58,159 because we all are on lots of different things, but 953 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:01,760 » and then Tommy. 954 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:06,880 » Yes, Tony will be there. >> I've already committed to it. 955 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:12,400 » Nice job. >> The first one we uh we signed up Tony 956 01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:17,040 Tony's going to do the dunk tank. talk. 957 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:19,679 » Oh, I can get one over here. >> Also, Tony's been coming to our meetings 958 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:24,080 as well. >> The one thing I would say is please 959 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:29,040 share as much information you can. This is a an extremely aggressive timeline. 6 960 01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:32,640 and 1/2 weeks from now is when this event's going to happen. Um, so it's 961 01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:39,159 going to be all about marketing and putting it out there as much as possible 962 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,159 » so we can 963 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:45,960 » Good stuff. Yeah. Thank you very much. >> Thanks. 964 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,960 » Thank you. 965 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:52,159 » All right. The select board will consider a liquor license renewal from 966 01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:57,040 Mikey Fudge. Uh including your packet is the request 967 01:17:54,719 --> 01:18:01,760 for a renewal from liquor license from my just again it sounds like a broken 968 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:05,600 record of what we've done with most of our businesses. I have not received any 969 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:11,440 complaints regarding operations of the lodge or the restaurant. uh no known 970 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:18,159 violations through uh Bureau of Liquor. Uh they've been a uh positive neighbor 971 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:21,280 to their um to their community. Uh staff and I through our view would recommend 972 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:24,880 that the select board approved the application to be forward to the state 973 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:30,760 of Maine Bureau of Alcohol Beverages and Lottery Operations who is ultimately 974 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,760 responsible for the final approval. 975 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,280 Any questions? Do I have a motion? I move the select 976 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:41,280 board approve the liquor license renewal for Micas Lodge and have the application 977 01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:49,679 forwarded to the state of Maine. >> One second. All in favor? Five and0. 978 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:54,480 All right. Then the fun the most fun one for the night. The select board will 979 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:58,080 discuss the preliminary tax commitment for 2027. 980 01:18:56,159 --> 01:19:02,880 » And this is the preliminary one cuz there is a little bit of work. And 981 01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:07,840 ultimately what's the good part is when we talked about this uh tax commitment 982 01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:11,600 is ultimately the job of the assessor. >> Um what ends up coming down with the 983 01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:17,920 select board typically will have his input on the overlay which does affect 984 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:23,120 um the mill rate. Uh in your packet you see a tax rate calculation form um that 985 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:27,440 was completed by our CL county regional assessing. Uh based on the current 986 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:31,840 valuation and budget information, the town can anticipate a mill rate increase 987 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:37,679 of 76 um which would put the mill rate to $11 988 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:43,199 per thousand of assessed value. This represents a 7.4% increase over the 989 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:47,920 current mill rate of 10.25. Um everyone literally want typically 990 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:53,440 want to say how does this affect the average homeowner? Um, when you look at 991 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:57,480 this calculation, uh, the minimum overlay is $48,749. 992 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:06,480 That is slightly less than this year's overlay and we used all of this year's 993 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:11,840 overlay. Um, but I the assessor and I feel very comfortable that would give us 994 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:16,239 the protections we need through um the process. Again, if you're not familiar 995 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:21,360 with main law, if we need more overlay, um for this after commitment, um 996 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:29,360 unassigned funds can be used um under main law. Um what is what ends up coming 997 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:37,679 down to uh the overall aspect um when you start looking at this is the average 998 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:43,920 and again the average homeowner um would see an increase of $35,129. 999 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:50,560 That's if they did not have a homestead exemption. If they had a homestead 1000 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:54,560 exemption, uh that would be a $3329 increase. With that being said, that's 1001 01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:59,040 just the average house. You're going to have some who receive less obviously, 1002 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:04,239 but the average house you're looking is in the 380 range. So, if you're having a 1003 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:08,800 7 or $800,000, you're you're looking at I'll say a $700,000, you could look at a 1004 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:14,400 a double increase of what I just quoted. So it varies by prop property by 1005 01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:21,199 property. So this is a is a significant hit and we'll uh we have to be aware of 1006 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:25,679 the aspect from when I say we staff that we've been reported um what we're going 1007 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:31,199 to have for abatements this year cuz that is uh an increase. 1008 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:37,120 » Yes. >> Tony, I was curious on the business uh 1009 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:41,199 equipment tax exemption. I saw a lot of the numbers listed out in here. Do we 1010 01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:44,080 have anything to do with that from the town level or is that all like state 1011 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,080 IRS? >> Betty, is that comes down from the state 1012 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,400 level? >> Okay. So, there's nothing we can 1013 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,520 » Right. Okay. Right. >> Got it. 1014 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:55,760 » And when you deal with personal property and again I getting into the weeds on 1015 01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:59,360 this one. Um, a lot of that is self-reporting. It's not going out 1016 01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:04,239 having an assessor look at it. It's business is self-reporting. or is the 1017 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:07,679 assessment supposed to be done at can that be done at a town level or is that 1018 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:12,320 something that gets done at all or >> um the vast majority of towns you do 1019 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:15,600 that formatting just cuz they don't have the staffing capacity to go and do the 1020 01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:19,679 assessments. >> Okay. 1021 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:22,880 » Cities like I'll say Portland does do it but they also have a substantial staff 1022 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:27,600 that is available to do it. >> They can do it. Okay. 1023 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:34,159 Again, this is no action needed by the board, but it is one of those before we 1024 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:38,960 do get forward. Um, unless you want us to increase the overlay, which I don't 1025 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:46,320 think would be the aspect for the board. Um, what you'll find out is again, 1026 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:51,760 if you said zero overlay, you would only decrease the bill rate by three cents. 1027 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:56,000 » Yeah. So, and again at which point then you would still have some you would have 1028 01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:59,679 to go for undersigned funds and that's not probably the 1029 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:05,360 » when you look at the largest portion of an overlay again I would never re it's 1030 01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:10,800 in the $700,000 range that state standards where they can 1031 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:14,440 where they can fall between. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. 1032 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,280 Slackboard comments. 1033 01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:22,960 » Do I get to go first? >> Yep. 1034 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,560 » Awesome. >> You're at that end of the table. 1035 01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:32,080 » Um >> yeah. Uh just a couple things. So 1036 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:38,320 earlier Tony, um I I'd like some clarification on how how to how to 1037 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:44,000 handle the manager's report or manager's update. I don't I I don't at the last 1038 01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:47,199 meeting I was like, should I do I ask questions now? Do I wait for select 1039 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:52,000 board comments? Do you know what I mean? I I don't know how to how to do that. 1040 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:57,120 So, um and one of the one of the triggers for that was the acco control 1041 01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:03,679 officer conversation. You know, that that uh idea of Sam's for agenda item is 1042 01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:08,159 exactly where that needs to land. Um but um I just want to know, you know, the 1043 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:12,960 appropriate process to handle the manager's update um as a select board 1044 01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:18,800 member. And then um just a couple follow-up things on so um and we'll 1045 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:24,960 receive I'm just looking for timing. We'll receive the RFPs for the roof on 1046 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:32,480 this facility and does it include Brown A and anyway um but those are due like 1047 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:35,760 the 13th of August. So we'll be making that decision at our meeting just after 1048 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:41,600 that. >> Correct. Okay. Um, and then I'm more 1049 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:45,760 concerned about the sand and salt shed because we're backing ourselves into a 1050 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:53,440 corner on that project for sure with the timing. Um, and is it is it worst case 1051 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:58,080 scenario that that project doesn't happen before the sand has to go in? I 1052 01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:02,239 mean, I just just want to talk it through so we we have the conversation 1053 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,679 today instead of when we know it's happening. The RFP says the project will 1054 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:12,480 be done by August, excuse me, October 15th. Okay, that that is a very again if 1055 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:16,480 the select board decides with the award you want to postpone it to the spring 1056 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,719 when I'm using an example, you have the authority if the contractor is willing 1057 01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:25,840 to agree to that. I just I feel like we're what and just I 1058 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:31,440 just want to have the conversation guys. When we when you give them zero timing 1059 01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:36,239 that gives us zero control over the idea of the cost of it, right? Like it it 1060 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:39,600 really fats us into a corner. We end up seeming like we're a little desperate to 1061 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:44,239 get it done and that's just a tough place to be in the construction world. 1062 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:49,360 So I just want to just have that conversation out loud. That's all. 1063 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:53,360 And again, I think to answer your question, Grant, Rob, if you don't mind, 1064 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:58,719 » no, not at all. >> The managers um uh on my notes, this to 1065 01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:02,080 me, it's not intended to be a dialogue. It's it's meant to be anformational 1066 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,920 aspect. It's like here's what's going on so you're aware of it. Um again, it's 1067 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:10,960 one of those if you want it something as an agenda item, uh that should be that. 1068 01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:13,840 Again, simple questions are easy, but I don't think it's fair to the public if 1069 01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:18,400 we're going to have an extensive dialogue about that. No, that's that's 1070 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:25,280 why I was bringing it up, Tony, to be honest, cuz I I think that we can also 1071 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:29,760 uh as as that information is uh coming in front of us in the packet, 1072 01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:33,120 » like uh you know, maybe there's a heads up, maybe there can be a a preheads up 1073 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:36,800 that this maybe needs to be adjusted, but I don't want to sabotage it that way 1074 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:40,239 either. And I certainly don't want to I don't want to get the public thinking 1075 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:44,080 that there, you know what I mean? like that Jason an awful lot happens in that 1076 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:48,719 manager's report that doesn't if you don't go looking for it you don't if you 1077 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:52,159 don't go looking for it in the packet it doesn't show up on our agenda you know 1078 01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:56,639 what I mean like those items don't show up on this piece of paper so it's it's 1079 01:26:54,639 --> 01:26:59,840 difficult I don't want to dive in too deep on those for purposely as well 1080 01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:03,600 because it doesn't feel like they've been given enough notice about those 1081 01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:07,440 conversations so I just want to make sure we're doing it right that's all 1082 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:13,280 » and the one thing that with the when the RFP comes in for Um, excuse me. The sand 1083 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:18,719 and salt said if you're really concerned timelines in aspect you can not refuse 1084 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:21,360 to accept it. I mean and >> yeah and that just and just let's talk 1085 01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:24,480 about that a little bit because that just means that that building has a 1086 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:28,800 little bit less capacity >> and we just have to refill it more 1087 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,679 frequently as the winter goes along, >> right? 1088 01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:32,679 » Yep. >> Okay. 1089 01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:41,040 I think Grant kind of touched on it, but I just wanted to make sure that the 1090 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:44,040 animal control is updated on at the next meeting. 1091 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:51,120 » Yeah, >> I'm good. Thank you. 1092 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:56,000 » Tony, any updates on the forestry truck as of yet? 1093 01:27:52,400 --> 01:28:01,199 » Uh, we have not got any estimates yet, but that is um we've contacted uh 1094 01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:04,239 Greenwood to see if they could I think it's Greenwood. And don't quote me on 1095 01:28:02,639 --> 01:28:08,800 that, but let's see if they could assist us on that paying. 1096 01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:14,239 » Okay. [clears throat] >> All right. Then I've just got one 1097 01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:20,239 question for you or request. Um seeing as we've just finished the first month 1098 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:24,400 of the new fiscal new fiscal year, could we make sure that um financials are out 1099 01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:28,880 by the 15th or 1100 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:34,159 » Yeah. >> Yes. just and getting it make sure it 1101 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:40,080 gets to the finance committee also. >> All right, 1102 01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:46,760 that's was my only request for tonight. Just like that. 1103 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:46,760 » And now we got one more item to go. 1104 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:55,040 I move the select board go into executive session per title 25 part 5 1105 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:59,280 chapter 252 section 2006 to discuss concealed weapons permit application 1106 01:28:57,440 --> 01:29:03,800 0804 2026A and 08042026B 1107 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:12,360 second. All in favor and O. We are in executive session.