[0:00] The following is a real-time recording
of the Casco main select board meeting
[0:04] for August 4th, 2026. There are no cuts
or insertions.
[0:12] » I'd like to welcome everyone tonight to
the Casco Fleck Board regular board
[0:17] meeting for August 4th, 2026. May we
start by saying the pledge of
[0:21] allegiance.
[0:27] I
>> aliance to the flag of the United States
[0:30] of America and to the republic for which
it stands. One nation under God,
[0:36] indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
[0:46] We have one minor um agenda
change. We're going to move the select
[0:53] board will discuss the water quality
plan up to seven and the uh recreational
[0:59] department programs down to eight
>> just because we want
[1:06] solid.
>> Okay.
[1:10] Do I have a
>> I approve the meeting agenda with a
[1:14] change?
>> Second.
[1:16] » All in favor? Five and0. Thank you very
much. Approval of all bills and signing
[1:21] and approval of the open warrants.
>> So moved.
[1:25] » Second.
>> All in favor. Five and0.
[1:29] Okay. Approval of the minutes for the
July 21st. Has everyone had a chance to
[1:34] read and review them and make sure
they're correct? Okay. Do I have a
[1:38] motion?
>> So moved.
[1:41] » Second.
>> All in favor? Five and0. Okay. Public
[1:46] participation. You have two minutes for
non-aggenda items.
[1:53] My name is David Kimble. I live at 782
Meadow Road. I'm here to point out a
[1:58] crime in progress. 2 minutes, you say?
>> Yes.
[2:01] » Is that what you say?
>> Hey, let's have a look at this.
[2:04] » I'm going to try to be as socially and
polit politically correct as possible.
[2:11] But if you'll allow me the few moments
it's going to take to get from this side
[2:16] to that side. I'm going to go down an
agenda that's right here. Right.
[2:21] » Okay. But like I say, you've got the two
minutes.
[2:23] » How about uh
>> that's what I want to point out to you
[2:26] and I'm going to point this out to this
environment right here. This environment
[2:30] is non conducive to passing the word cuz
there is a substantial crime and
[2:37] progress.
>> Talk to the microphone. It's going to
[2:39] help. What we have is embasment market
capital stolen from a map that was
[2:46] nefariously not kept
>> up to date. Let me start here.
[2:51] » Yep.
>> Hey, I won't leave.
[2:54] » This is over.
>> Let me get to it.
[2:57] » So, politically correct as possible.
Jason Farley,
[3:02] 2015,
second generation surveyor from Casc.
[3:07] His father was a surveyor. Well,
found dead at home the night before my
[3:14] come county tax
2015.
[3:19] Cyrus Leech's wife, he died in 2005, she
died in 2007.
[3:25] By the time I bought that property in
2010, the market capital would have been
[3:30] embezzled pretty well and covered up
sloppily. I'll show you right here. We
[3:36] are this is the insisting that I speak.
When this started, I went into the town
[3:44] hall, not angry. I was getting over some
surgery, right? I'm not a big hurry
[3:50] anymore. Anyway, you don't have a uh
freedom of information request, right?
[3:57] This is 2015.
[4:02] Who in that office is contacting
the
[4:10] where what am I looking for? Yeah,
right there. The mortgage company,
[4:17] right? Who's in contact with the
mortgage company? Because the mortgage
[4:21] company, because I'm a veteran,
determines the escalated taxes, right?
[4:26] And processes the paperwork. So, I ask
it, who's in charge of that? You got a
[4:32] non-government
office in charge of where the market
[4:37] capital for the property in Casco is
taken, right? They have no interest in
[4:47] integrity, transparency, right? This is
going straight to the stock exchange.
[4:54] And yeah, the stock exchange, the ETF is
what it's going under. That's where
[5:00] somebody can pay somebody else's
property taxes, put the value of that
[5:04] property on the stock exchange. It was
invented in 1993.
[5:09] That was the same there in rugby for our
good men over here, the loose head. When
[5:13] they started lifting the lineups, when
the ball goes up bounds and rugby, throw
[5:17] it back in, you throw it down the
center, six or seven guys by side like a
[5:23] jump ball. They invented lift in the
same year they invented the ETF. It's
[5:29] kind of like an economic call that
abstract. I'm going I'm going to go
[5:32] through this. 99
>> they invent the uh North American Free
[5:37] Trade Agreement
where the ability from North America and
[5:43] Canada. Right.
>> I've already extended your time, Mr.
[5:46] Kimble.
>> I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I
[5:48] appreciate it. Once I get through this,
I'm Right. Wrap it up.
[5:52] » This is for the time. I'm going back
here. I'll read this out.
[5:56] Power inherent in people. All power is
inherent in the people. All free
[6:00] governments are founded in their
authority that's instituted for their
[6:04] benefit. They have there therefore un
unalienable and undefeasible right to
[6:11] institute government and to alter the
reform or totally change the same when
[6:15] their safety and happiness required.
at the same time a Jed surveyor second
[6:23] generation Jed surveyor will get cover
up. Okay. And it goes from here.
[6:29] » Okay. Mr. Kimble,
>> this is the tax record information sheet
[6:34] that goes with the
>> Mr. Kimble.
[6:35] » Mr. Kimble, we've heard this a number of
times.
[6:38] » Oh, okay. and come up here and finish it
for me because what what happens here is
[6:42] I want to start from the start and get
to the finish and uninterrupted because
[6:47] this is a lesson
>> okay
[6:49] » for we the people and you're
interrupting
[6:52] » sir our agenda is 2 minutes for non and
you have now been
[6:56] » everybody else in the world is 3 minutes
I've been up for 2 minutes for so long
[7:00] while while Holly M Holly Hancock was in
your seat right I'm only asking to get
[7:07] from one end of this to Yeah,
>> we've gone four already.
[7:10] » Hey, you am I hurting your feelings cuz
I'm coming back here.
[7:13] » I haven't have to call sheriff's for on
this. We're asking
[7:19] » we're asking you to stop. That's all.
>> Okay. Okay. Look, let's go. One more
[7:24] thing,
Texas. General, this is exactly
[7:29] identical to the situation. Turon Mland
and Vietnam did the same thing with the
[7:34] record.
>> All right. You want to call the
[7:36] sheriff's popping? I'm going home. Have
them come down there. I'm going now. You
[7:39] want to start? You want to do a
political what?
[7:43] » What are you going to call that?
>> That's all it is. They're asking you to
[7:46] stop.
>> This is economics right here. This is
[7:48] the United States of America getting
taken to the stock exchange place. I
[7:52] will loose the farious record people.
All right.
[7:56] » If you give us a solution, we'll listen.
>> What?
[7:59] » If you give us a solution, we'll listen.
>> Solution. Transparency. You have to have
[8:05] transparency, right? These these
lots, this area
[8:12] has clearly been surveyed and it wasn't
until the mortgage balance that all this
[8:19] stuff happened and if if you just look
at this, it's that here's a here is a
[8:27] sound point. The Q system, which is what
they use stock machine, right? We don't
[8:33] know the cus numbers. They don't tell we
the people of numbers, okay? Cuz they're
[8:39] taking that to the stock exchange
because they're covering the map and
[8:44] paying the property taxes. And in fact,
you look at what's going on stock
[8:47] exchange. That just can't be real. But I
only got one point right here. And you
[8:52] know what? If you give me three more
minutes,
[8:54] » you know, this is it.
>> If you give me 3 minutes after this,
[8:59] I'll really explain it to you.
>> No. No.
[9:01] » No.
There it is. Right there. And my good
[9:04] man that loose had rose his hand when
this began to take part in that to be a
[9:11] liaison with me.
>> She says, "No,
[9:13] » Mr. Kimble, your time is
>> 20 block one. That's $220,000
[9:18] taken to the stock exchange by
>> How many cabals paying mine properties
[9:24] property taxes?"
>> Hey,
[9:27] » what was that? What was that? 8 minutes.
>> He's got to argue. I'd have gone through
[9:32] that without talking. You made a perfect
point.
[9:35] » All right, I got to do this one more
time. No, you don't. No, you don't.
[9:38] » Yes, I do, too.
>> This environment right here has been
[9:42] maintained by people that want to
maintain control of of embezzled
[9:49] deposits on the stock exchange. Have a
meet me at the house. I got no problem
[9:53] with that. I'll go downtown.
>> Mr. King,
[9:55] » this is worth it. Look, this is
embezzlement and pro transparency is
[10:00] bringing this map right down to
>> David. Best case scenario, just just
[10:05] just head out. Okay. Say good night. We
appreciate you being here. I appreciate
[10:10] you taking the time. We'll try to help.
>> Yeah. I Let's Let's just finish it up
[10:16] tonight.
>> Okay.
[10:18] » All right. Well, here I have
>> Well Fargo
[10:24] 2015.
[10:27] What are you saying? You saying that
this town with this much embellishment,
[10:31] this much trouble, this much obviously
cover up is going to stand over this and
[10:36] we are going to go to court.
Okay.
[10:42] » Try to get everything in focus
over here.
[10:47] There's the record of payment, record of
billing.
[10:51] » Mr. Kimble,
>> what we have is okay.
[10:54] » Next on the agenda,
>> we're moving on. Go ahead.
[10:56] » Manager's update.
>> Is there any other open
[11:00] » Is there any other public participation
for non-aggenda items?
[11:03] » Come on up to the microphone.
>> And we apologize for this.
[11:09] » Two minutes.
>> I'm actually a little nervous.
[11:15] » I'll probably mess this up, but anyways,
>> take your time. Introduce yourself.
[11:18] » Good evening. Uh, my name is Lindsay
Laura. I live on Pine Hill Road in
[11:22] Casco. Um, I'm here tonight just to
express a little bit more concerns I
[11:26] have, which I did probably a few weeks
back. I was here on Pine Hill. Concerned
[11:32] about all the trees that are um
overhanging all the wires right now. Um,
[11:37] especially going up Pine Hill on Kayla's
Way. There's actually a huge branch in
[11:41] the road and I'm petrified to even like
drive on that side of the road cuz it's
[11:46] over the wires and over the road. Um and
going up on the left as well. I live up
[11:53] on the top. So there's um a huge tree
over crossing the road. Um not crossing
[11:58] but over um and the whole way up the
road there's trees all over the wires.
[12:03] So like this should kind of get taken
care of before winter if it was snow
[12:08] right now. Probably wouldn't be safe to
even drive on certain parts of the road.
[12:11] » Can you say that out loud?
>> Sorry.
[12:13] » Don't say snow out loud.
>> Sorry. I know. I Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
[12:17] Sorry. Sorry. But anyways, um, and like
if there was a dump truck or
[12:21] » two minutes is up. I'm just kidding.
>> If there was a dump a dump truck or, you
[12:25] know, a big box truck, it probably would
rip down some of those trees, wires,
[12:29] whatever. And I don't know who to
contact, whether it's you guys to reach
[12:33] out to Q team, Lucas Tree, whatever.
>> What we have to do is get a hold of
[12:37] Central Main Power Company. That's all
their
[12:40] » their responsibility. Good to know cuz I
didn't know if that's something that
[12:43] hires
>> Lucas Tree has been doing a lot of tree
[12:45] work in the area.
>> Okay. So,
[12:47] » good to know. Good to know.
>> I think we can probably follow up and
[12:50] take care.
>> That would be great.
[12:51] » Not a problem.
>> Thank you.
[12:53] » You're welcome. Thank you.
>> Okay.
[12:58] » Do we have anybody else or no?
[13:03] » Sam, you got a minute and a quarter. No.
[13:08] » Yeah. [laughter]
[13:13] » Oh my god.
>> You ain't even started yet,
[13:16] » I'm sorry, D. Um,
>> yeah,
[13:19] » Sam Dave Dave took up all your time.
>> I know he did. All right, I'll be I'll
[13:23] be This is ridiculous.
>> Um, three brief points. Uh, number one,
[13:29] I would like to express my appreciation
to the town manager for his open door
[13:33] policy and had a great meeting with Tony
last week. I'm learning about our
[13:37] processes and I'm trying to coach our
comprehensive plan implementation
[13:40] committee to be judicious about what we
bring to the microphone during public
[13:44] comment. With that said, one thing I
would like to bring up that is not on
[13:48] the agenda, but I would love to see
maintained on the agenda until a
[13:52] resolution is found is the work on um
the uh animal control situation. I don't
[14:00] see it on the agenda tonight. I don't
see it on the manager's update and
[14:03] that's fine. But please on behalf of the
community, I urge you to keep this in
[14:07] front of us. And then finally, I wanted
to share um the pride that I have uh
[14:12] about the work we did with the open
space commission and seven other
[14:16] stakeholders in open space, including uh
safe streets, the run club, lon echo, uh
[14:23] water quality, ATV club, and the
snowmobile club who all marched with us
[14:28] for Casco Days uh under the oposes of uh
open space and outdoors for all. and we
[14:34] are the recipient of the spirit award
and we are taking that momentum to
[14:39] continue our work. So good job.
>> Thank you.
[14:44] » Thank you. Anybody else?
Did I try to regain control?
[14:52] Okay. Manager's update.
>> Yep.
[14:56] » Um again, this is going to you'll hear
it a couple more times. This is a the
[15:00] fivem minute invite. it's called uh it's
to invite all residents to attend the
[15:04] second Cascal Village community workshop
that is scheduled for Tuesday September
[15:09] 15th at 5:30. Uh that meeting will be
taking place instead of a select board
[15:14] meeting. So that gives the opportunity
for all the select board members to
[15:17] attend. Um this will be an interactive
workshop uh with uh resilience planning
[15:23] and come up with uh some potential
zoning concept development patents
[15:29] design standards and regulatory
approaches to help guide the future of
[15:33] Casco Village. Um what this will be is a
review of some key themes that were
[15:38] previously um done at the first
community workshop and this is just
[15:42] going to end up working to help us come
and facilitate hopefully some uh more
[15:48] useful zoning that will preserve the
village while also giving some
[15:52] opportunities uh for multi-use.
Um, the town has issued a RFP request
[15:59] proposal for the delivery of screen sand
for 2026 27 winter season. Sealed bids
[16:06] are due on August 13th and must include
the recently received analysis verifying
[16:13] compliance of this material
specification. Uh, I anticipate the
[16:17] contract being awarded to the being
awarded by the select board at your
[16:21] August 18th meeting. Um, one thing that
has come out since this is the RFP for
[16:27] the sanding salt shed uh has been out
and that will be um brought to the
[16:33] select board at your September 4th. I
have to remember your first meeting in
[16:38] September. I'm trying I don't have the
calendar in front of me. Um so those
[16:42] will coexist and the work by that on the
uh Sam Schultz said will have to be done
[16:47] by midocctober.
>> It's actually September 1st. September
[16:51] 1st. September 1st.
>> Um GP Cog in the town will host a public
[16:57] open house on August 12th uh from 4:30
to 6:30 at the Websmill part to provide
[17:03] information and gather feedback on a
proposed four-way stop at that
[17:07] intersection of Poland Spring Road,
Websmill Road and Pine Hill. You'll find
[17:12] there's been a flyer that has been put
out there with a QR code that has been
[17:17] put on our Facebook. Um it's going to be
on our mailers. Um so anyone who has
[17:23] especially if you live in the Webs Mills
area, but we encourage anyone to attend
[17:27] uh that uh open house.
Uh public works has received a new
[17:32] sprayer and will provide the department
the capability to paint crosswalks,
[17:37] pavement markings, and handicap parking
signal in house. Uh the new equipment
[17:41] will be used also to assist um
preservation equipment. you can take it
[17:45] off where the spray paint portion is and
use it for spraying with a water base to
[17:50] help clean off the the trucks during the
winter season. Um, as you'll find out as
[17:55] you look outside, one of the first
things that will be used there is
[17:58] repainting the crosswalk since it just
got paved over. So, that will be one of
[18:02] the uh first items done.
[18:07] Um, road uh foreman Mike J and I have
been inspecting some private roads um
[18:11] that received winter maintenance from
the town. sure they remain compliant
[18:15] with the 1972 private roads standards.
At this time, there are two private
[18:20] roads, Konav and Lower Coffee Pond, that
have been identified as not meeting
[18:23] those standards. Um, you'll find out
Coffee Pond uh road, the turnaround is
[18:30] is non-existent for when it needs to be.
Uh the other one on Cone is a say it's a
[18:37] washboard is an understatement on one
end of it by Valley. Um, again, these
[18:41] should be fairly easy fix for both of
the road associations, but we're going
[18:46] to give them some notification if they
don't fa do it, what the consequences
[18:49] are.
[18:52] I got a couple more. Um, legal council
has filed a 80k um, which is basically a
[19:00] land use enforcement action uh, against
the owner and lease of 50 Rabbit Run for
[19:06] violating the town cease and desist
order. Under this action, the statutory
[19:10] enforcement mechanism is is to go before
the court and seek court compliance,
[19:16] civil penalties um from the court, which
will then could also potentially be as
[19:21] much as fines or authorize them to shut
down, you know, actually go down and
[19:25] physically lock that up. Um again, this
action demonstrates the town's
[19:31] commitment to ensuring compliance with
with this ordinance is a decision by
[19:35] this slot board. Um we anticipate um our
legal staff asking for the court to
[19:41] expedite this ruling since they have
been in violation of it for over four
[19:46] months and have not shown any uh avenue
to comply with it.
[19:51] One last thing, I'll be on vacation from
August 28th through September 9th and
[19:55] will be unavailable by cell phone or
email during that time. During that
[19:59] time, Chief uh Brian Cole will oversee
any critical town manager
[20:03] responsibilities and address any urgent
matters that are required during my
[20:06] absence.
[20:10] » Okay. Thank you. Does anyone have any
questions for
[20:15] a couple of questions? I just wanted to
confirm on the private roads. Um is this
[20:20] still in process and you have found two
thus far or is it you've reviewed all
[20:25] private roads with snow plowing and
We have not reviewed all of them.
[20:30] » No. Okay. So, in process.
>> Exactly. And these ones, put it very
[20:34] bluntly, have come from other private
roads complaints.
[20:38] » Got you.
>> Okay.
[20:43] » Thanks. You're welcome.
[20:47] » Amy,
>> uh Amy Brown, Casco, just a quick
[20:50] question. On private roads like Coffee
Pond Road, is the private road
[20:55] association responsible for the safety
of
[21:01] the access to the main road on that road
or is that not part of their
[21:05] responsibility?
>> It depends what you defined access.
[21:08] You're talking about where the entry
aspect that private roads until it
[21:13] becomes a public road. They're
responsible for all that aspect.
[21:16] » Yeah. I realizing it's a difficult
situation and I don't know what the easy
[21:21] answer for them is, but um as someone
who goes down that road on a daily
[21:26] basis, that is a incredibly bad accident
waiting to happen. Um the houses down
[21:33] there are just getting bigger and
bigger. There's more and more traffic,
[21:37] more and more people using the boat
ramp, um larger construction vehicles
[21:42] coming out all the time. And when you go
to turn onto that road, it's not even
[21:46] wide enough a lot of times when you come
face on with another car. But again, not
[21:52] an easy solution, but definitely
something that is an accident and a bad
[21:57] accident waiting to happen.
[22:02] Thank you for that.
Okay. And moving along, the select board
[22:09] will consider an update updating the
following policies. community center
[22:13] facility use and remote meeting policy.
>> Uh included in the packet is an updated
[22:19] uh community center/ facility use one.
Um that was after legal review. Uh again
[22:26] it is the substance has not yet changed
much but the uh some of the wording
[22:32] verbiage has uh again when they provided
me um the updated they did not provide a
[22:38] redline version of what I presented just
because there was multiple changes uh
[22:43] and when I got back from them I didn't
have the opportunity to do a redline
[22:46] version of it. Uh so to me it's up to
for the board on that one to determine
[22:49] whether they want uh myself or staff to
come back with a redline version to say
[22:54] what the true differences are between
what the original proposed uh uh policy
[22:59] was and what the one recommended by
legal staff. Um this other one that was
[23:04] in the remote meeting pro is again I
think they're talking about at the
[23:08] workshop. This will be a probably a
continual one. Uh included in your
[23:12] packet is what MMA's model policy is. Um
whether you want to tweak that and make
[23:17] that become the town's policy with some
finer uh alterations that would be up to
[23:23] this point.
And I've already tweaked it once. I ran
[23:28] it through AI four times today.
But getting back to the community, I do
[23:35] have three questions. Um and one of them
is a number thing and I'm big on
[23:41] numbers. um on the available spaces.
>> I saw that same thing. Yes,
[23:46] » it goes community center entire space
concentrated use capacity 211 mixed seat
[23:53] use seating capacity 270. That's the
only one that mixed use is higher than
[24:00] the concentration
>> and I added those numbers up and they
[24:04] just don't. So
that's
[24:08] » 12. It should be 210. If all you add the
gymnasium, kitchen, small and large
[24:13] meeting room, it's 210.
>> Yeah.
[24:16] » So,
>> but then again, if you do the
[24:18] concentrated people and you add up from
the gymnasium all the way up through,
[24:21] it's it's over 400, I think.
>> Well, if you're counting the 270
[24:26] » because the 75 it's 210.
>> Yeah.
[24:30] » Which
>> 345 350
[24:34] » like I said
>> 427. redone.
[24:37] » Those could be redone.
>> Yeah. Okay. And and I didn't I knew they
[24:41] could be redone. I just wanted to bring
it to the attention.
[24:44] » Y
>> um then
[24:48] scrolling down just a little bit more.
Uh the required dep damage deposit of
[24:54] $50. I'm just wondering is that too low?
[25:01] because most everything in this building
costs more than $50 and it got damaged.
[25:07] » You look at people.
[25:11] » Yeah. No, I I just No, I'm sitting here
and I'm looking straight out. I'm not
[25:16] looking at you. I'm just
>> What was this? What was the one that you
[25:20] just said before?
>> $50.
[25:22] » Yeah, the require Yeah, the required
damage deposit is a
[25:26] » is $50.
I mean that is low I think right now for
[25:31] most of the building it's forest and
it's not you know
[25:38] you're not banging around okay using
something in the gym or having
[25:46] changed in the future but it's now
coming
[25:52] » I just want to make sure that if we did
have a situation that it wasn't going to
[25:55] affect your budget in any Okay. So, if
you know if something really big went
[26:00] down, we just want to make sure that
we're covering you
[26:04] » as well. I I agree it's low, but I'm I'm
also a little worried about
[26:09] » accessibility and if we made it too
high.
[26:12] » Again, I've got that same
>> Yeah. So,
[26:15] » but I just want to make sure we balance
that. I I will say Julie will say for
[26:20] one thing for sure, she's terrified now
of the these padded chairs with
[26:25] frosting, red frosting getting ground
into them.
[26:28] » So again, it's one of those
>> but it's seriously that's how the
[26:32] examples she used. But again, it's one
of those things where if there is
[26:36] excessive damage over the deposit, there
are other avenues that the town could
[26:40] take if it so choose to see
>> agreed. I I just wanted to bring it up
[26:45] because a $50 deposit is not in today's
world is
[26:50] » when you buy a gallon more.
>> Do you have a comment on this?
[26:53] » Tom McCarthy South Casco. So when
uh organizations outside of the town uh
[27:01] that I've been in have used the facility
and a 401c3
[27:08] uh if you go much more than $50 for a
security deposit are going to go look
[27:15] elsewhere. So if we haven't had problems
with damage then my suggestion would be
[27:21] to leave it at $50.
>> That's fine.
[27:23] » That's fine. Like I said, I'm just
bringing up things that
[27:27] Lord likes to me. And the last one, it's
also in that same line was actually in
[27:34] town man. Um, town manager re review.
Let's see. Next one. Required damage
[27:43] deposit. Um,
why can't I find
[27:47] exactly what? Because what it says is
the security deposit shall be collected
[27:52] for the facility shoes that requires a
reservation.
[27:56] And again, I'm I'm being devil's
advocate here.
[28:00] When you say requires a reservation,
does that mean we need a security
[28:07] deposit? And I know the answer, but
again,
[28:10] um for committee meetings because we
have to reserve the the rooms,
[28:16] do we have to pay the deposit?
Trust me, I'm just being
[28:21] » Yep.
>> Yeah, you got to stand up. You got to
[28:25] say who you are. Who are you?
>> Beth Lazy, recreation director. Um, I
[28:32] think that was more
for somebody who scheduled a party again
[28:38] that you know we shut down the room or
there was two or three people that
[28:41] wanted at the same time that there would
be a consequence if they didn't didn't
[28:47] use it cuz we have had people in the
past that will say they want to have a
[28:52] party and then then you know 10 minutes
before it was supposed to start they
[28:55] call and say we don't need it.
>> Right. And again, it's more just I want
[29:00] to make sure all our verbiage right so
that someone can't take it out of
[29:03] context when they say,
>> you know, how come what how come the
[29:08] CPIC doesn't have to pay its damage
deposit every time they reserve the
[29:12] room?
>> It is. Or water quality. We know how bad
[29:16] that is.
>> Wait, that means I would have to pay
[29:21] too.
>> Yeah,
[29:23] » I think we just need to put some
verbiage in there,
[29:25] » right? saying that it's for private, you
know, private res
[29:30] » and you know, that's the whole purpose
of this review is to check over and see
[29:34] where we need to make changes and that's
all I was bringing up.
[29:43] » So, I have one other comment, Bob, and I
apologize. I didn't uh see the revised
[29:48] after it went through the attorney. Uh,
does it still have in there the priority
[29:55] order of booking?
>> Yes.
[29:57] » Yes.
>> Okay. And once it's booked,
[30:01] then that group can't be bumped,
[30:08] » Tony.
>> Because I think any anything can be
[30:12] bumped for depending on what the
situation is.
[30:16] » And again, it comes down to the town
private priority list. Yeah. which is is
[30:21] first obviously.
>> So
[30:25] if an organization
books a room 6 months ahead,
[30:32] validates that reservation a month
ahead,
[30:38] 10 days ahead, they can be bumped
for a non select board meeting.
[30:44] I don't think that's fair.
[30:48] And you're not going to get people to
book the facility with those kind of
[30:54] rules.
[30:58] » Okay.
>> I know the priority looking at the
[31:01] priority order is number one is town
boards and committees, meetings, and
[31:05] functions.
>> Right. Right.
[31:06] » So they're going to be at the top of the
list anyway.
[31:08] » Correct.
>> So
[31:11] the only way they could be bumped if
there was a select board issue. Correct.
[31:15] Well,
I'm going say if what you're hear is
[31:19] again, and I missed the first part, so I
apologize for the if you're saying it's
[31:24] a non a non- town board, someone's
renting it and they have an emergency
[31:30] aspect where they have to deal with the
planning board or the site board,
[31:34] » they can get bumped even if it was 10
days before something along.
[31:37] » But I think Tom was and maybe I
misunderstood you. You were talking
[31:40] about this being a town board.
>> No, no. Okay. Sorry. Uh in in this case
[31:46] uh
the lake association
[31:52] reserved the room in January, reverified
it in May, and then were bumped 10 days
[31:59] ahead of time.
We were accommodated over in the old
[32:04] bank or whatever that building was. I'll
be honest, it was an embarrassment to
[32:09] have a meeting there
and
[32:13] we should have a calendar that shows the
bookings
[32:19] and once you book it and you've paid
your deposit, you shouldn't be able to
[32:24] be bumped unless it's an emergency
meeting of the select board.
[32:32] » Okay. Yeah,
>> we like I say this obviously will not be
[32:37] approved tonight. Well,
>> so so th those words I sent to uh Tony
[32:45] a couple weeks ago when this first came
out. So, I'd appreciate if something
[32:50] along those lines could be incorporated.
[33:02] » Sam Brown, I'm Hill Road. Um, if I could
ask a couple questions. Um, I don't see
[33:08] in the in the draft here it it it says
there's a subheading it item G which
[33:14] lists fees, but I don't see anywhere
else in the draft where fees are
[33:19] outlined. Did I miss it? Is it are they
outlined in this?
[33:22] » It says says it should be the amount
specified on the town fee schedule.
[33:27] » I see. So that's supplement. That's
separate that's separate piece.
[33:31] » Yep. And um [clears throat] is the is
the spirit of the program to try to
[33:37] promote more use of this facility
by other groups and potentially drive re
[33:43] drive it as a revenue source.
>> I I'll speak when I worked on this. This
[33:49] was not and my intention was not ever to
make this a sole revenue source. It to
[33:55] me it's a community center. It's trying
to develop the spirit of community
[34:00] trying to enhance use of of it. So, and
trying to make it cost neutral
[34:04] associated with that as much as
possible. And then along with that would
[34:08] be would there be um sort of an
application that you know a an applicant
[34:14] would download and submit and for
formally fill out and
[34:19] » um okay because I I do see the priority
list um which is listed under
[34:26] uh provide email. So it's priority of
use. It shows town boards, town
[34:31] departments, service groups, special
events, special interest groups, and
[34:36] that's the priority list. Um because I
the reason I'm asking is similar to Tom,
[34:40] you know, we host our open space
meetings here and safe streets meetings.
[34:44] Um the uh um precedent currently whether
it's right or wrong is generally I
[34:52] create a a calendar invite and invite
Tony and Beth to it and assume that
[34:57] they're going to and Allison Griffin and
then presume that because those meets
[35:03] are scheduled open space is third Monday
and um uh St. is third Wednesday. So
[35:09] it's more of a reminder. Um, but I guess
we would I would like to get some
[35:13] clarity around whether that will
continue in that fashion or whether we
[35:16] it would be more formal.
>> Again, I would much prefer a more formal
[35:21] process where you just fill it out.
Again, it's one application do it for a
[35:25] year and that way it's on on the cat
way.
[35:28] » Yeah. And then I agree with Tom like
ideally there would be a calendar where
[35:32] and there is a calendar on the website
but not all meetings are always are
[35:35] always posted.
We're working I have multiple calendars
[35:39] with our new website which will
hopefully alleviate some of that
[35:43] aspects.
>> Great.
[35:45] » We're working at better communications.
>> I know you are.
[35:49] » So we are
>> okay.
[35:54] » So does anyone else have anything to
>> I have a question on the on the damage
[36:00] deposit which is $50
>> and then [clears throat] it says fees.
[36:04] But if we if we have to do a cleanup
after the event or whatever they're
[36:10] doing, would that be taken out of the
deposit for for the damage fee? In other
[36:16] words, if Beth comes in, she has to have
cleanup people come in and clean up that
[36:22] room where they leave it a mess. Will
that money can we recoup that money from
[36:28] that $50? If you're saying beyond the
traditional, you know, we're going to
[36:33] have a put the chairs out in like that.
If they have to come in and do a
[36:37] scrubbing cleaning and something like
that, that would come out of those fees.
[36:40] » Okay. Thank you.
[36:56] » Do we have any
Sounds like this one's still in the
[37:00] works.
>> Yeah, this one that both of them are
[37:05] still in the works. Okay,
>> there's some good things in this sample
[37:10] policy from MMA. I just think there I
think it's something that can be tweaked
[37:18] and what I'll do is I'll send the board
my
[37:24] my AI report.
>> Perfect. Okay,
[37:26] » I'd send it now, but I only have the one
copy and I've already made notes on it.
[37:32] » But it basically took MMAs and just made
it easier to understand.
[37:38] » I'm sure Joe, you understood it exactly
as it was written.
[37:42] » It was definitely missing the nuances
and we needed to make it our own.
[37:45] » Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
>> Uh Amy Brown don't know is this an
[37:51] appropriate time for an update on the
meeting room?
[37:55] Yes, it would be. Yes, it would be.
>> Okay, thank you.
[38:00] » Do we have an update on the meeting?
>> Courtney Walsh, Johnson Hill Road.
[38:07] [clears throat]
>> I would just like to submit my
[38:13] preference
of AI usage for our town. And I
[38:18] understand that there's lots of new
tools and everything,
[38:22] but I have a real concern with us just
using chat GPT or whatever to create our
[38:31] documents. And I just want to make sure
that we're reviewing them and fully
[38:37] and
I just want you to remember the impact
[38:42] on the environment as well. Well, try I
am the number one opponent to AI. I
[38:50] don't like it, but I did it. I had a few
minutes this afternoon, so I But even
[38:55] then, I ran it through three times
because I didn't like the way it was
[38:58] coming up.
>> Yeah.
[38:59] » So, and then I sent it to Tony.
>> Great. I just want to be careful if
[39:04] we're just creating everything through
AI that
[39:09] » we're missing, right?
>> We're kind of missing things. So,
[39:12] » yeah.
>> Do we have an update on that?
[39:16] » No.
>> No. Okay.
[39:18] » Um, and I'll ABL the board right now
that policy.
[39:22] » So, he's going to
>> Tonyy's going to email you my draft
[39:26] right now.
>> We just need to remind ourselves this is
[39:28] a small community
>> and the issues that come up with the use
[39:32] of this facility about it, it's it's
about it being a small community. So if
[39:37] it's a snow day for the down the street,
is it a snow day here or is it not? The
[39:44] pickle ballers come when it's snow,
sleep, rain, uh hurricanes, they want to
[39:50] play pickle ball. Um and I'm I'm just
I'm just talking like how how this
[39:54] facility works, right? We heard from
them in the past about if it's closed
[39:58] down there, does it mean it's closed
here? And we've been we've been uh I'd
[40:03] say Beth's been super flexible to make
sure that this these doors stay open as
[40:08] much as possible. But that's the stuff
we need to touch on this document, that
[40:12] small town stuff, just to make sure that
it feels equal and feels the same for
[40:17] everybody. And um
so that's the piece that we've got to
[40:23] kind of like focus on. on the simply
stated that this this document will
[40:27] satisfy how we use the building, but we
got to highlight a couple of those
[40:32] things that we've heard about in the
last two to 5 years about the use of
[40:37] this facility. Those are the things that
you just need to know, right? So, uh and
[40:41] it sets the groundwork for everybody see
the document. This is how it works.
[40:46] » Yep.
[40:50] » Okay. So, we will scratch
Moving on. I think we're at water
[40:57] quality.
[41:05] So, Tom McCarthy, South Casco.
So, on April 2nd of 2025, we held the
[41:13] first water quality ad hoc committee
meeting.
[41:18] In January of this year, we submitted
the draft to the select board.
[41:25] We also had a peer review by LEA, Lakes
of Maine, Lake Stewarts, Lake Smart, and
[41:34] Raymond Waterways.
We also had review by the select board
[41:39] and the town staff. We have incorporated
all of those comments.
[41:45] We then had Courtney do a phenomenal job
doing the graphic arts and formatting.
[41:53] So I am very happy to say that the work
of
[41:58] Sarah Ferry, Jim Arsham, Diane Cormier,
Pam Edwards, Maggie Monarch,
[42:08] Levi Thornton, and
Eileene Tid
[42:14] resulted in what I believe is a
phenomenal document. We have gotten a
[42:20] lot of requests from people outside of
Casco for copies of this document and I
[42:26] told them that soon as you approved it,
we would get it to them. So, tonight
[42:31] we're requesting that the select board
approve the water quality plan for the
[42:35] town of Casc.
Any questions?
[42:39] » Anybody have a question?
>> Yeah, I've got a a few. Um, so first
[42:45] off, I went through it.
graphics fantastic. A lot of the
[42:50] content's great. Um, one of the things
that I've realized when I started
[42:56] running for this seat was water quality
is a major component of a concern area
[43:03] for a lot of the residents in this town
and your committee is extremely
[43:07] important. Um, and I definitely think we
have a good start to a water quality
[43:15] plan, but I'm concerned that there could
be a little more opportunity for
[43:22] more of a detailed list of what the
goals are and what the committee wants
[43:28] to accomplish. Some of the things that
jumped out to me when I started going
[43:32] through the plan was um I saw the
reference to the task the water quality
[43:37] ordinance task force. I think that's a
great thing to include to have and focus
[43:44] on you know not only because it looked
like it looked correct me if I'm wrong
[43:48] but it looked to me that a focus of the
task force was to come up with
[43:52] ordinances that could be recommended for
future application.
[43:56] » Yes.
And I was also curious what we're doing
[44:00] and what we're planning to do as a
committee
[44:04] to enforce the ordinances we have in
place today as well.
[44:09] » So
>> working with the CEO and how that
[44:12] relationship is developed.
>> So we we were given some pretty
[44:17] straightforward guidance that this
committee is not an enforcement
[44:21] organization.
Uh what we do is we will review
[44:28] uh things from the planning board which
we've already started and then we make a
[44:33] recommendation to the planning board and
the CEO and the town manager
[44:39] and the next step on this plan and it's
a living document. So as time goes on
[44:45] and we also didn't include lakes and
streams in here
[44:49] » because we wanted to get it done focus
on lakes
[44:53] » but the next step by the committee is to
put together the water quality policy
[44:59] for the town and that will have more
implementation type uh items in it.
[45:06] Okay,
>> that you know the CEO will do XYZ and
[45:09] the select board will do this and the
committee will do that. But the as far
[45:15] as the ordinances to
uh
[45:20] put requirements in place at an
ordinance level, that's where we said
[45:25] we're going to do the task force which
will kind of like we did with the
[45:29] village. It will not just be the water
quality committee looking at it because
[45:34] any ordinance that affects water is
really going to be a zoning type
[45:39] ordinance which then absolutely requires
the planning board and then the select
[45:44] board and then it's got to be taken to a
town meeting. Uh
[45:49] so
this this document is the top level plan
[45:54] that will live and grow and the next
step is the policy for the
[45:57] implementation.
>> Okay. And okay, so then with that in
[46:01] mind and you mentioned and I saw in here
this didn't cover streams and rivers or
[46:07] anything like that yet. Um but I don't
think I saw maybe this is part of the
[46:12] future plan anything about groundwater
quality and
[46:18] » I think that's probably beyond our
capabilities to uh get into. Uh I did go
[46:24] to the main lakes conference this year
and talk to the state geologist
[46:31] uh and there was discussions about the
aquifers and the capacity of the
[46:37] aquifers.
They can predict sand and gravel
[46:41] aquifers
but they have no clue of the capacity of
[46:45] a bedrock aquifer
which is kind of scary seeing that a lot
[46:49] of Casco has bedrock aquifers. Mhm.
>> So when we start looking in the planning
[46:55] board or even in the village zoning, we
talk about growth and these kinds of
[47:00] things. How much water is there?
>> Yeah.
[47:02] » And if we're sitting on bedrock, how
much water can we pull out
[47:07] » and how much septic can go back in when
you only have a couple feet of uh soil
[47:13] above bedrock. So, it is something the
town needs to address, but it's going to
[47:20] be something that we're going to have to
go to the state geologist to get
[47:24] knowledge. It It's not something that we
could do at the water quality committee,
[47:27] although it's critically important.
>> Okay.
[47:32] » Yeah. Because that's something that
definitely worries me. I mean, we've had
[47:36] a couple of droughts in the recent years
and that has impacted groundwater level
[47:42] as well as beyond just level and aquifer
uh replenishment. Always also concerned
[47:48] about
um contamination potentially from
[47:54] pesticide use or fungicides or whatever
else somebody might be putting on their
[47:59] lawns. So, that's been another concern
of mine. So, so one of the things in the
[48:03] plan is to
uh coordinate with lake associations and
[48:09] do watershed surveys.
So, that water a watershed survey will
[48:15] point out those types of things. Uh
we've already kicked off the first
[48:19] watershed survey that uh is in
coordination with Thomas Pond because
[48:26] somebody just happens to be on that
board.
[48:29] And matter of fact, we got a meeting
with DP on Monday to kick that off. So,
[48:35] uh, Thompson Lake has just finished
theirs. I believe Crescent Lake has done
[48:41] one fairly recently also, but there's 18
watersheds in Casco.
[48:46] Most of them end up in Sebago, but about
a third of them uh end up going east and
[48:52] north. Uh
so a as we work through and we are
[48:57] working with the lake associations uh
we've had good response with meetings
[49:01] with lake associations so it's going to
be a coordinated effort with them uh
[49:06] watershed surveys are important and with
that we can also uh we're working with
[49:11] open space and CPIC on as we go forward
on looking at zoning uh for residential
[49:19] uh CPIC is has a subcommittee that's
working to pull something together to
[49:24] bring to you guys in the very near
future.
[49:27] » Okay. And this might be more of a
question for you guys because I wasn't
[49:32] here when the water committee was
charged, so it might just be me not
[49:37] having that information. Um, what is the
long-term plan to look at uh
[49:47] enforcement from some of the things that
could come from new if if a new code is
[49:52] recommended for example and then we were
to vote on it, approve it, is that
[49:56] something we're going to just work
through the CEO with to make sure it
[49:58] gets enforced and do we have some
insight in how the water quality
[50:04] committee can
work with the CEO in the future?
[50:08] what the legal has advised on that they
should is to prevent them from being
[50:13] quasi legal aspect or authority.
>> So no testing or anything,
[50:17] » you know, their aspect is if they're
worried about um violations or the
[50:22] observations, it is then their role to
report to D code enforcement and they'd
[50:27] be the enforcement mechanisms.
>> Yeah. Absolutely.
[50:31] And the lake associations kind of like
the idea that the town had a water
[50:36] quality committee. So when they have
concerns, they can bring it to water
[50:40] quality committee who will then take it
to the CEO and then they're not tattling
[50:45] on their neighbor and then you you get,
you know, animosity on a lake and that's
[50:51] a [laughter]
[50:55] » Yeah.
>> Any other questions?
[50:58] Uh I I just have one. It's kind of a big
question, but um I was just wondering
[51:04] what criteria you use for the watersheds
because I know it been discussed and
[51:09] that it is a very important part of this
plan. I was just wondering what criteria
[51:15] you used in determining what was the
watershed over.
[51:18] » So So the watersheds came from uh the
state.
[51:22] » Okay. So th they are documented
available online. Uh they're also in the
[51:29] plan.
>> Yeah.
[51:31] » But uh we also uh a new tool that I'm
working with uh a gentleman in my lake
[51:39] association is an AI tool to do storm
water runoff.
[51:45] And we're already doing testing of that
tool uh and have a very good correlation
[51:51] with the water level in Thomas Pond
based on the rain. Uh it's an AI based
[51:58] tool that uses space sensors uh numerous
databases
[52:04] uh and it can tell you how dry the
ground is. It has elevation levels. it
[52:12] can do storm water flow runoffs and
we'll be using that uh we're going to go
[52:18] over it with the D on Monday and see if
she's interested in expanded use of that
[52:24] tool for doing watershed surveys.
>> Awesome.
[52:27] » Good. Just you know it's just curious
>> because I want to make sure our wersheds
[52:34] are protected and that we've got them
all in there or
[52:38] » you got 18 of them. There's no piece of
land in Casco that's not in a lake
[52:43] watershed.
[52:48] » So, just to jump in here again, and I
appreciate the additional clarification
[52:52] cuz like I said, I wasn't here when the
water was initially charged.
[52:57] » Um,
>> I may have missed it. Let me know if
[53:00] it's if I missed it in here somewhere,
but just um is there a general timeline
[53:05] for some of your goals and
>> No, it's just left open.
[53:09] » No, it was left open. So, some we might
be able to get to soon. Some of them uh
[53:14] are going to take longer. You know, you
currently have seven people doing this
[53:21] work in concert with the town staff. I
do believe we asked for nine at one of
[53:27] the meetings recently and I think you
voted yes but I don't think it's been
[53:30] documented anywhere. So it as for
approval of this plan if we could also
[53:36] add in to make the committee nine people
I
[53:40] » I actually looked at past minutes and
confirmed that when it was approved it
[53:46] was approved at nine.
So it already it it is already mine as
[53:51] my understanding
>> unless anybody disagrees.
[53:59] » Okay.
>> Anything else, Joe?
[54:02] » Um
[54:05] I think w with the understanding that
there's a more in-depth plan coming down
[54:09] the line, I feel better about what we
have today knowing that it's kind of an
[54:15] outline document and it's a great place
to start. I think it's a great document.
[54:20] I I always like concrete timelines, but
I do too. Trust me,
[54:25] » I understand. Yep. So, you know, I
appreciate the information. Thank you.
[54:29] » Yeah. Okay. Coming from the military to
municipal government. Okay.
[54:36] » Okay.
>> Um
[54:39] I read this
policy a dozen times upside down
[54:44] everywhere around. And I think that and
I was the select board representative to
[54:49] this group and I got a chance to to see
them doing their work and I think it's a
[54:55] tremendous plan and I think we should
just go ahead and approve it and let's
[55:00] let these guys move on to their next
tasks. So, I'm going to make a motion
[55:04] that we go ahead and approve
the water quality plan that's presented
[55:09] by the water quality committee and also
to make sure that the committee is at
[55:14] nine members.
>> Okay,
[55:17] » I'll second that.
>> All right, so I have a motion and a
[55:20] second. Do I have any discussion?
The only thing I'm going to add is that
[55:26] when open space came before us, we
didn't we asked for a second reading on
[55:33] that
>> before we've approved it and we have not
[55:35] yet approved it. Right. So, just trying
to be fair.
[55:39] » So, so you've had two different
readings,
[55:43] » right?
>> Two different documents, two different
[55:54] I'm comfortable.
>> Okay. If Okay. If you're all
[55:58] comfortable, I'm ready to go. All in
favor?
[56:02] » 5.
[56:08] » Thank you. And with that, I got to get
back to my grandkids
[56:12] before my wife takes me in.
[56:17] » Bob, thank you.
>> Just a comment. This is this is great
[56:20] work by our community, right? This is
this is a very clear proper step in this
[56:25] process. Um the more eyes the better we
have when we're talking about water
[56:30] quality. That's what they told us,
right? They want us to pay attention to
[56:33] it. The more eyes the better. So um if
it's if it's uh this is step one or step
[56:40] three or four in the process, we just
got to keep moving.
[56:44] » I I definitely agree. We got to keep
moving.
[56:46] I just wanted I also wanted to this was
done without a contractor support that
[56:52] this was all
>> by the committee and then court
[56:57] polishing.
[57:00] » We appreciate your work, Tom. We really
do.
[57:02] » Now we just need to keep the momentum
going.
[57:04] » Absolutely.
>> Yep.
[57:07] » Thank you.
>> Thank you, Tom. Have a good night.
[57:10] » Now we will receive an update from the
recreational department program and
[57:14] community center. Where was my 72
question?
[57:20] Nothing.
>> Nice.
[57:24] Okay.
So, I'm going to start out by telling
[57:28] everybody if you have little ones or
anybody that's interested, uh, Thursday
[57:33] we have kite day up at Hackers Hill. Um,
and it's, if you've been there before,
[57:37] it's a it's a great great atmosphere and
all the kids get to have kites and
[57:43] they're free and Maggie from Loe Echo
and myself and John Martin who brings
[57:48] the kites. Um, we have a blast and we
watch them fly them and everything. So,
[57:53] that's Thursday at 10:00.
So, I'll move on. Just give you some
[57:59] information of where we're at and what
we're doing. Um, right now summer camp,
[58:03] we have an average of 20 kids that are
there. They're having they're having a
[58:08] blast in the community center. Um, we're
going tubing. We've gone um kaying.
[58:15] We're going to Bridton and do some stuff
up there tomorrow. Um, we went to the
[58:23] Mad Science. We went to We've done all
different kinds of things. It's a great
[58:28] group of kids and they're having a
blast. So, that's going on here. Um,
[58:32] swim lessons, we had two two week
sessions down at the at the beach here.
[58:39] It was about 80 participants. And then
in the winter and spring, we have a
[58:45] spring two week and um a winter one. We
had over six 60 we had 62 involved in
[58:52] that. And I would like to try to add
another session um as soon as we can
[58:58] next year.
We're one of the only towns that offers
[59:02] swim lessons in this area. Um, and it
there's a there's a huge need for it. I
[59:07] personally think that every child should
be able to swim for nothing. We live in
[59:12] all these lakes. We talk about water
quality and everything else. And the
[59:15] kids that get in the water that don't
know how to swim and it just it kind of
[59:18] just, you know, I think it's we're we're
doing the right thing with all the
[59:22] lessons that we have. We just don't have
enough instructors to keep it going. And
[59:27] um so that's something that we we're
trying to work on. Um tennis lessons we
[59:32] had we had eight participants in that.
Um and that's average of what we have.
[59:38] Again, we're the only town that you know
has provides that for the community. So
[59:44] that's kind of neat. Um, the one thing
that that I will talk a little bit about
[59:50] because all of you that know me know
that I love kids, but I love love love
[59:55] the seniors and I try to do as much as I
can for them. A lot of times recreation
[59:59] departments, they think of kids and
adults, but they kind of don't think
[1:00:03] about the seniors. We currently have a
Monday morning or Monday Monday lunch
[1:00:09] here. Um, Linda Allen and Jan McGrath
are the ones that cook it. Um, we have
[1:00:15] probably around 40 people that are using
it now. They come in, they play tribage,
[1:00:21] they play cards, they talk to each
other, they have they have lunch, and
[1:00:25] then and then they leave later. Um, I
have been in touch with um Southern
[1:00:30] Maine MA agency on aging.
Talked to them last week. We are going
[1:00:35] to be doing one day a week that they
will take over and do it all. They'll
[1:00:40] come here. um we will take um people
that that have parents that they're
[1:00:46] taking care of that would like to get
away for the day or anything like that.
[1:00:50] They're going to come down here. They'll
have six people. They'll take care of
[1:00:54] the person that's here while the family
goes shopping or does whatever they
[1:00:57] want. Um and it'll be like a three-hour
3-hour thing that will happen. The other
[1:01:03] thing that we're doing is we're getting
a second lunchon through them. Um, and
[1:01:08] they again will come down and they'll
get everything set up. All we have to do
[1:01:12] is pick the restaurant in the area that
we want to provide the food and they
[1:01:16] will pay for it all. So, this is all
free and it's some some really cool
[1:01:20] stuff that we're doing for our seniors.
So, that's that's something that they
[1:01:23] they'll have three days a week which is
really good. Um,
[1:01:28] we are
two spots open for Cabbage Island. We're
[1:01:32] going there on the 18th. So, looking
forward to that. Um things that we
[1:01:37] offer, we're going to be offering is is
field hockey, basketball, softball,
[1:01:42] baseball, run club, karate. Um we're
coming back with chess and cribage for
[1:01:48] the kids here after school. Um right now
we have Amy might be able to tell me if
[1:01:55] it's it's more, but right now we have
pickle ball. We have nine sessions plus
[1:01:59] three at Crooked River. Um, I think
we're probably up from that, right, with
[1:02:03] Libby Park and everything else. But, um,
that's all. If you if you like the the
[1:02:08] sound of pickle balls,
just come sit at my office and have
[1:02:13] coffee some morning.
The funny part about it is I live in
[1:02:17] front of Lon Haven in Naples and they
have pickle ball courts right outside of
[1:02:21] my backyard. So, I don't even it doesn't
even bother me anymore. Um, so, uh, we
[1:02:27] we currently have yoga two times a week,
Saturdays and Thursdays. We are coming
[1:02:32] back this year, Friday nights with the
teen center here. We're going to have it
[1:02:38] open for for kids to I mean, I think
your kids invol were involved in that a
[1:02:42] long time ago. So, we're going to bring
it back and it's going to be really fun
[1:02:44] for kids to go in different rooms and
have different things to just hang out
[1:02:48] with their friends and family can drop
them off and they can go have dinner
[1:02:52] someplace and it's nice. Um, right now
because of camp we don't have playg
[1:02:57] group but that's coming back. We have
all kinds of toys and jumpy houses and
[1:03:03] all that stuff that we put in the
gymnasium. And we probably have, I don't
[1:03:07] know, between 15 and 20 kids that come
in here and and utilize the space, play
[1:03:12] music and and everything like that. And
the parents like it too. Um, adult
[1:03:18] basketball, we have Monday, Wednesdays,
menly men's league on Sundays, and
[1:03:22] signups for that are coming up now. Um,
we have adult volleyball in the
[1:03:27] community center. um holiday
celebrations, Easter, Christmas,
[1:03:31] Halloween. Um and then we have the
quilters and veterans committee that
[1:03:37] come in here. Um there are five
committees that meet in the community
[1:03:42] center as well as the planning boards
uh zoning board of appeals and the
[1:03:47] select board. Um and we have many
requests for birthday parties and other
[1:03:52] family gatherings. So that's pretty much
what we're doing right now. So,
[1:03:58] any questions or
>> Wow.
[1:04:02] » That's all.
>> Come on. There's got to be a little room
[1:04:06] for something.
>> Beth, I think you know
[1:04:09] » I can I say one thing while while we're
while we're talking is what going back
[1:04:14] to what Grant said, um I think it's I
and I don't really honestly I don't want
[1:04:19] to say this, but I don't know where we
ended up. I think that when we have snow
[1:04:24] days and stuff like that, obviously not
when it's dangerous to be to be out
[1:04:28] riding, but I think that it's really
good for pickle ballers or kids that,
[1:04:32] you know, have a snow day or whatever to
be able to come down here and and and be
[1:04:37] able to use obviously with a parent or
with somebody and be able to use the
[1:04:41] community center um even though the
other spots are are closed. So, sorry.
[1:04:47] » So, good.
>> So, go ahead. I think you and I have
[1:04:50] talked long enough and you know how
special I think you are, but I don't
[1:04:54] think the town's people realize just
exactly what we have in Casper for a
[1:04:58] recreation program.
>> Thank you.
[1:05:00] » Just just the swimming lessons alone
tells how much that our recck department
[1:05:06] cares about our kids and with all the
opportunities that our kids are being
[1:05:10] given right now. if it wasn't for those
opportunities and I saw it firsthand
[1:05:14] having two young boys who went through
everything in the wreck program and that
[1:05:19] makes those that molds those kids into
what they are today. You know the
[1:05:23] coaches the volunteer coaches who are
absolutely fantastic.
[1:05:27] » Couldn't do that.
>> My my boys were fortunate enough to grow
[1:05:30] up in the Brian Crockett and Jerry
Simpson days
[1:05:34] » and and because of that they're who they
are today. So if you don't realize to
[1:05:41] the town's people, if you don't realize
what we have for a wreck program, look
[1:05:44] into it,
you'll thank you'll thank everybody
[1:05:48] later for looking at it. Your kids will
thank you for looking at it because it's
[1:05:51] an absolutely amazing program.
>> And I do want to while while we're
[1:05:55] talking about that, I do want to to
everybody to know that my door is always
[1:05:59] open. I never shut it unless I'm it's
something that I have to do. Anybody is
[1:06:04] welcome to go. I have kids that come in
and, you know, want just want to talk or
[1:06:09] whatever and and seniors. So, anybody
that just wants to come down and chat, I
[1:06:13] love that.
>> Am I good?
[1:06:16] » Thanks for all that you do.
>> Yes.
[1:06:18] » Okay, good.
[1:06:24] » Courtney Walsh, Johnson Hill. Um, Beth,
I just wanted to suggest my family in
[1:06:31] particular would love an open gym
situation. I don't know logistically how
[1:06:35] that works, but I do feel the desire
from, you know, I have a 12-year-old to
[1:06:40] like just come down and play. And I'm
sure you would say yes, but I think
[1:06:45] having something more formal on the
calendar might be a great idea. Anyways,
[1:06:51] nice work.
>> Thank you.
[1:06:55] » Okay, moving along. This board will
discuss the September 26th community
[1:07:01] event.
[1:07:07] You think the girl? Let's go.
[1:07:12] » She doesn't need any help.
>> Been ganging up on.
[1:07:15] » Yeah.
>> Uh hi. Um
[1:07:21] we have taken the ball and Oh,
>> we're here.
[1:07:26] » Oh, wonderful. Um, I've got Janet and
Pam here and we are taking on the first
[1:07:32] ever uh Casco Community Fest. That's
what we're calling it. Um, we have
[1:07:37] confirmed that the last Saturday in
September is going to be from 3 to 6 at
[1:07:44] the Casco Community Park. Um,
one of our largest incentives to do this
[1:07:52] is coming directly from the
comprehensive plan. um to engage more
[1:07:59] with the community and to call in more
volunteerism.
[1:08:04] Did I get that right?
>> So far so great.
[1:08:07] » Um so leading with that um I believe
that if we are to call more people in to
[1:08:14] serve our town um we have to give them a
reason to gather and fun and joy is
[1:08:20] always important. um through the work I
did with the branding project um
[1:08:25] interviewing people around town um there
was a common thread that people want
[1:08:32] Casco to be more than just Casco days
and I think that this is a really
[1:08:36] exciting step in that direction. Um
the main component
[1:08:42] that we are um kind of focusing on is
the meet and greet and we are asking
[1:08:49] that all departments, committees
and clubs in town have a presence have a
[1:08:58] table presence and um
I am going to be creating a passport of
[1:09:05] sorts and every every table's is going
to have a stamp and we're going to be um
[1:09:12] I think I think making a sticker pack
from the new branding as a reward for
[1:09:16] stopping at all the um tables. We're
still working that out, but some sort of
[1:09:22] version of that to incentivize people um
for the meet and greet. Um besides that,
[1:09:29] we have hired a DJ, a local DJ to Casco
um Joe Lurman. Um, we uh got approved to
[1:09:39] use the snack shack or the concession
stand. Um, we are going to have some
[1:09:45] sort of food option. We are currently
trying to sus out if there's any food
[1:09:50] trucks that are available on such short
notice on such a small budget. Um, TBD
[1:09:55] on that. Um, we since we're doing it at
the community park, there is the
[1:10:00] playground for younger children and
we're hopefully going to be doing a mini
[1:10:05] touch a truck which is like where kids
can climb in the trucks and stuff. I' I
[1:10:11] spoke to Chief. He says that he would be
on board for participating. Um, let's
[1:10:18] see what else. Um, I'm hopeful that Oh,
the library is going to do a story walk
[1:10:24] on the trail where the um spooky trail
is in the fall. The other clubs that are
[1:10:31] going to be
>> Oh, sure. The clubs that we are inviting
[1:10:35] to participate include um
uh the snowmobile club, the ATV club,
[1:10:43] Lunco Land Trust, um
the Run Club. Were they on our list?
[1:10:51] » And we are
>> the and the historical society.
[1:10:57] » I is connect with cast.
>> Okay.
[1:11:01] » Okay. Great. Um,
[1:11:06] I'm I'm looking to do some sort of
community engagement activity. I would
[1:11:11] love to have a cornhole tournament. Um,
and with early signups and, you know,
[1:11:18] encouraging teams and silliness and fun
and joy. Um, but we are working very
[1:11:24] hard. We're meeting every week to move
this down the field and um it's coming
[1:11:31] up fast. So, do you have questions?
[1:11:38] No. I think it's a great idea to get the
community involved in any way possible
[1:11:42] and to find ways to get get them out of
their comfort zone and get them to see
[1:11:48] other people in the community
so that they can work can learn and you
[1:11:53] know learn who your neighbor is.
>> Yeah. Oh, speaking of we're going to
[1:11:57] have name tags which I'm quite excited
about.
[1:12:01] [laughter]
[1:12:04] Um,
>> no, I think uh being involved in the
[1:12:07] Halloween event that happens there, I
know that's a a heavy hitter, but
[1:12:10] parking does
>> sort of
[1:12:13] could potentially be problematic. So, I
would say uh do anything you can to
[1:12:19] notify the neighbors and talk to the
neighbors about an overflow idea. Um,
[1:12:24] for the Halloween vent event, Beth does
a nice job notifying the neighborhood
[1:12:29] and they allow us some overflow parking
for the volunteers down the edge of that
[1:12:34] road, but just use one side of the road.
So, um, I think that's just good.
[1:12:40] » Yeah, we actually to consider.
>> Thank you. We actually have a plan to do
[1:12:46] auxiliary parking on the Berry property
and shuttling
[1:12:49] » over um
Good. Good job telling people that.
[1:12:55] » Yeah, that's good.
Um,
[1:12:59] Beth, I will talk to talk to you just if
you want to pass any wisdom down from
[1:13:04] doing an event there anymore.
Did you have a question?
[1:13:13] » I Sam Brown Pine Hill Road. I just want
to comment that um you know we having
[1:13:18] participated in municipal effort to
create better engagement over the last
[1:13:23] several years. Uh I think the town
should take a bow for the three
[1:13:27] significant engagement events that are
on our calendar here in the in the next
[1:13:31] 6 weeks. Uh Wednesday next week we have
the Webs Mills uh engagement event
[1:13:36] that's happening right in Webs Mills
regarding the the four-way and safe
[1:13:39] streets and GP COG. Um September 15th we
have the village partnership or rather
[1:13:45] the village district work that's
happening here on your select board
[1:13:48] meeting and then this will be the sort
of third event that's coming up um
[1:13:52] really all in the next six weeks. Um I
was commenting to the comp plan
[1:13:55] implementation committee on Thursday
last week that I don't think currently
[1:14:00] it's easy for someone who doesn't know
about it to go to the website and find
[1:14:04] out about all three of these things. Um,
so I would ask that uh the town manager
[1:14:09] and the uh communications director
consider as you work on the the calendar
[1:14:14] itself someplace where it just says,
"Hey, look at all these great community
[1:14:18] engagement events that are happening.
Please come out and join us cuz I think
[1:14:22] this is a great great event and well,
I'll be there to support it."
[1:14:26] » Thank you.
>> Um, something else to mention, we're
[1:14:30] working with Allison. she is our member
from the town. Um the save the date is
[1:14:38] going to go out tomorrow. So if any of
you are on social and want to push that
[1:14:42] further that would be great. Um and the
last time we spoke we were looking for a
[1:14:49] liaison from the select board. So we are
still open
[1:14:54] and looking
for that.
[1:14:57] » What do you mean? [laughter]
Yeah, that that's my problem.
[1:15:02] » That what are your meeting?
>> Um, right now we're meeting at a time
[1:15:07] that Joe can't come, but we are happy to
change it,
[1:15:09] » which would be my problem also.
>> Yeah,
[1:15:11] » Thursdays at at 300 p.m. is what we're
doing now.
[1:15:14] » Yeah, Thursday is my worst day cuz I
have meetings until 5:30.
[1:15:20] » We're willing to change to have one of
you um involved.
[1:15:24] » More than happy to do that.
>> Joe was raising his hand while I grabbed
[1:15:28] his arm. Oh yeah, everybody's aware.
>> I saw the muscle radius level.
[1:15:34] » We accept Joe. We accept you.
>> Can we push the meeting back?
[1:15:39] » Maybe.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes.
[1:15:40] » That would probably work better.
>> Yeah, I think we're pretty flexible.
[1:15:44] » Yeah, it would have to be, you know,
again,
[1:15:47] » I'll send out an email.
>> Okay. really excited about this and I
[1:15:51] think it is a fantastic thing and I'm
really excited to keep hearing more as
[1:15:55] you guys go along
>> and we would also like the select board
[1:16:00] to have uh a table there as well.
>> Sure, we'll be there.
[1:16:06] » We'll make up a cornhole team this
morning.
[1:16:10] » I just want to reemphasize that really
the the main purpose of this was to do
[1:16:14] the meet and greet piece. And so you
mentioned earlier how it's too bad
[1:16:18] people didn't know about the wreck.
Well, wreck would have a table. Our hope
[1:16:21] is that wreck has a table.
>> And so they would present themselves and
[1:16:25] this is really just let our community
know what the town is doing with their
[1:16:30] select boards, their committees,
everything that's going on. And that
[1:16:34] component of coming together as a
community is is the draw, the fun part
[1:16:39] of it. So yeah,
>> and I agree. If you see it come out on
[1:16:43] your social media tomorrow to save the
day, please everybody share it as much
[1:16:47] as we can.
>> And anyone who wants to volunteer,
[1:16:50] please come our way. I mean, I'm
assuming everybody else is on a board
[1:16:53] because we all are on lots of different
things, but
[1:16:56] » and then
Tommy.
[1:16:59] » Yes, Tony will be there.
>> I've already committed to it.
[1:17:03] » Nice job.
>> The first one we uh we signed up Tony
[1:17:09] Tony's going to do the dunk tank.
talk.
[1:17:12] » Oh, I can get one over here.
>> Also, Tony's been coming to our meetings
[1:17:18] as well.
>> The one thing I would say is please
[1:17:22] share as much information you can. This
is a an extremely aggressive timeline. 6
[1:17:27] and 1/2 weeks from now is when this
event's going to happen. Um, so it's
[1:17:31] going to be all about marketing and
putting it out there as much as possible
[1:17:35] » so we can
[1:17:39] » Good stuff. Yeah. Thank you very much.
>> Thanks.
[1:17:42] » Thank you.
[1:17:47] » All right. The select board will
consider a liquor license renewal from
[1:17:50] Mikey Fudge.
Uh including your packet is the request
[1:17:54] for a renewal from liquor license from
my just again it sounds like a broken
[1:17:59] record of what we've done with most of
our businesses. I have not received any
[1:18:04] complaints regarding operations of the
lodge or the restaurant. uh no known
[1:18:08] violations through uh Bureau of Liquor.
Uh they've been a uh positive neighbor
[1:18:13] to their um to their community. Uh staff
and I through our view would recommend
[1:18:19] that the select board approved the
application to be forward to the state
[1:18:23] of Maine Bureau of Alcohol Beverages and
Lottery Operations who is ultimately
[1:18:26] responsible for the final approval.
[1:18:32] Any questions?
Do I have a motion? I move the select
[1:18:35] board approve the liquor license renewal
for Micas Lodge and have the application
[1:18:39] forwarded to the state of Maine.
>> One second. All in favor? Five and0.
[1:18:46] All right. Then the fun the most fun one
for the night. The select board will
[1:18:52] discuss the preliminary tax commitment
for 2027.
[1:18:56] » And this is the preliminary one cuz
there is a little bit of work. And
[1:19:00] ultimately what's the good part is when
we talked about this uh tax commitment
[1:19:05] is ultimately the job of the assessor.
>> Um what ends up coming down with the
[1:19:10] select board typically will have his
input on the overlay which does affect
[1:19:14] um the mill rate. Uh in your packet you
see a tax rate calculation form um that
[1:19:20] was completed by our CL county regional
assessing. Uh based on the current
[1:19:25] valuation and budget information, the
town can anticipate a mill rate increase
[1:19:29] of 76
um which would put the mill rate to $11
[1:19:34] per thousand of assessed value. This
represents a 7.4% increase over the
[1:19:40] current mill rate of 10.25.
Um everyone literally want typically
[1:19:46] want to say how does this affect the
average homeowner? Um, when you look at
[1:19:50] this calculation, uh, the minimum
overlay is $48,749.
[1:19:58] That is slightly less than this year's
overlay and we used all of this year's
[1:20:02] overlay. Um, but I the assessor and I
feel very comfortable that would give us
[1:20:08] the protections we need through um the
process. Again, if you're not familiar
[1:20:13] with main law, if we need more overlay,
um for this after commitment, um
[1:20:18] unassigned funds can be used um under
main law. Um what is what ends up coming
[1:20:25] down to uh the overall aspect um when
you start looking at this is the average
[1:20:33] and again the average homeowner um would
see an increase of $35,129.
[1:20:42] That's if they did not have a homestead
exemption. If they had a homestead
[1:20:45] exemption, uh that would be a $3329
increase. With that being said, that's
[1:20:52] just the average house. You're going to
have some who receive less obviously,
[1:20:56] but the average house you're looking is
in the 380 range. So, if you're having a
[1:21:01] 7 or $800,000, you're you're looking at
I'll say a $700,000, you could look at a
[1:21:06] a double increase of what I just quoted.
So it varies by prop property by
[1:21:11] property. So this is a is a significant
hit and we'll uh we have to be aware of
[1:21:19] the aspect from when I say we staff that
we've been reported um what we're going
[1:21:23] to have for abatements this year cuz
that is uh an increase.
[1:21:28] » Yes.
>> Tony, I was curious on the business uh
[1:21:34] equipment tax exemption. I saw a lot of
the numbers listed out in here. Do we
[1:21:39] have anything to do with that from the
town level or is that all like state
[1:21:43] IRS?
>> Betty, is that comes down from the state
[1:21:45] level?
>> Okay. So, there's nothing we can
[1:21:47] » Right. Okay. Right.
>> Got it.
[1:21:49] » And when you deal with personal property
and again I getting into the weeds on
[1:21:53] this one. Um, a lot of that is
self-reporting. It's not going out
[1:21:57] having an assessor look at it. It's
business is self-reporting. or is the
[1:22:02] assessment supposed to be done at can
that be done at a town level or is that
[1:22:06] something that gets done at all or
>> um the vast majority of towns you do
[1:22:10] that formatting just cuz they don't have
the staffing capacity to go and do the
[1:22:14] assessments.
>> Okay.
[1:22:17] » Cities like I'll say Portland does do it
but they also have a substantial staff
[1:22:21] that is available to do it.
>> They can do it. Okay.
[1:22:25] Again, this is no action needed by the
board, but it is one of those before we
[1:22:30] do get forward. Um, unless you want us
to increase the overlay, which I don't
[1:22:36] think would be the aspect for the board.
Um, what you'll find out is again,
[1:22:44] if you said zero overlay, you would only
decrease the bill rate by three cents.
[1:22:48] » Yeah. So, and again at which point then
you would still have some you would have
[1:22:54] to go for undersigned funds and that's
not probably the
[1:22:57] » when you look at the largest portion of
an overlay again I would never re it's
[1:23:02] in the $700,000 range
that state standards where they can
[1:23:06] where they can fall between. Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:23:16] Slackboard comments.
[1:23:20] » Do I get to go first?
>> Yep.
[1:23:22] » Awesome.
>> You're at that end of the table.
[1:23:24] » Um
>> yeah. Uh just a couple things. So
[1:23:29] earlier Tony, um I I'd like some
clarification on how how to how to
[1:23:35] handle the manager's report or manager's
update. I don't I I don't at the last
[1:23:42] meeting I was like, should I do I ask
questions now? Do I wait for select
[1:23:45] board comments? Do you know what I mean?
I I don't know how to how to do that.
[1:23:49] So, um and one of the one of the
triggers for that was the acco control
[1:23:54] officer conversation. You know, that
that uh idea of Sam's for agenda item is
[1:24:00] exactly where that needs to land. Um but
um I just want to know, you know, the
[1:24:05] appropriate process to handle the
manager's update um as a select board
[1:24:10] member. And then um just a couple
follow-up things on so um and we'll
[1:24:16] receive I'm just looking for timing.
We'll receive the RFPs for the roof on
[1:24:22] this facility and does it include Brown
A and anyway um but those are due like
[1:24:28] the 13th of August. So we'll be making
that decision at our meeting just after
[1:24:34] that.
>> Correct. Okay. Um, and then I'm more
[1:24:39] concerned about the sand and salt shed
because we're backing ourselves into a
[1:24:43] corner on that project for sure with the
timing. Um, and is it is it worst case
[1:24:51] scenario that that project doesn't
happen before the sand has to go in? I
[1:24:56] mean, I just just want to talk it
through so we we have the conversation
[1:25:00] today instead of when we know it's
happening. The RFP says the project will
[1:25:05] be done by August, excuse me, October
15th. Okay, that that is a very again if
[1:25:10] the select board decides with the award
you want to postpone it to the spring
[1:25:14] when I'm using an example, you have the
authority if the contractor is willing
[1:25:18] to agree to that.
I just I feel like we're what and just I
[1:25:24] just want to have the conversation guys.
When we when you give them zero timing
[1:25:28] that gives us zero control over the idea
of the cost of it, right? Like it it
[1:25:33] really fats us into a corner. We end up
seeming like we're a little desperate to
[1:25:37] get it done and that's just a tough
place to be in the construction world.
[1:25:42] So I just want to just have that
conversation out loud. That's all.
[1:25:46] And again, I think to answer your
question, Grant, Rob, if you don't mind,
[1:25:52] » no, not at all.
>> The managers um uh on my notes, this to
[1:25:57] me, it's not intended to be a dialogue.
It's it's meant to be anformational
[1:26:00] aspect. It's like here's what's going on
so you're aware of it. Um again, it's
[1:26:04] one of those if you want it something as
an agenda item, uh that should be that.
[1:26:08] Again, simple questions are easy, but I
don't think it's fair to the public if
[1:26:12] we're going to have an extensive
dialogue about that. No, that's that's
[1:26:16] why I was bringing it up, Tony, to be
honest, cuz I I think that we can also
[1:26:21] uh as as that information is uh coming
in front of us in the packet,
[1:26:27] » like uh you know, maybe there's a heads
up, maybe there can be a a preheads up
[1:26:31] that this maybe needs to be adjusted,
but I don't want to sabotage it that way
[1:26:35] either. And I certainly don't want to I
don't want to get the public thinking
[1:26:38] that there, you know what I mean? like
that Jason an awful lot happens in that
[1:26:42] manager's report that doesn't if you
don't go looking for it you don't if you
[1:26:46] don't go looking for it in the packet it
doesn't show up on our agenda you know
[1:26:50] what I mean like those items don't show
up on this piece of paper so it's it's
[1:26:54] difficult I don't want to dive in too
deep on those for purposely as well
[1:26:58] because it doesn't feel like they've
been given enough notice about those
[1:27:01] conversations so I just want to make
sure we're doing it right that's all
[1:27:05] » and the one thing that with the when the
RFP comes in for Um, excuse me. The sand
[1:27:11] and salt said if you're really concerned
timelines in aspect you can not refuse
[1:27:17] to accept it. I mean and
>> yeah and that just and just let's talk
[1:27:20] about that a little bit because that
just means that that building has a
[1:27:22] little bit less capacity
>> and we just have to refill it more
[1:27:26] frequently as the winter goes along,
>> right?
[1:27:29] » Yep.
>> Okay.
[1:27:34] I think Grant kind of touched on it, but
I just wanted to make sure that the
[1:27:37] animal control is updated on at the next
meeting.
[1:27:44] » Yeah,
>> I'm good. Thank you.
[1:27:48] » Tony, any updates on the forestry truck
as of yet?
[1:27:52] » Uh, we have not got any estimates yet,
but that is um we've contacted uh
[1:27:58] Greenwood to see if they could I think
it's Greenwood. And don't quote me on
[1:28:02] that, but let's see if they could assist
us on that paying.
[1:28:07] » Okay. [clears throat]
>> All right. Then I've just got one
[1:28:10] question for you or request. Um seeing
as we've just finished the first month
[1:28:17] of the new fiscal new fiscal year, could
we make sure that um financials are out
[1:28:22] by
the 15th or
[1:28:27] » Yeah.
>> Yes. just and getting it make sure it
[1:28:31] gets to the finance committee also.
>> All right,
[1:28:36] that's was my only request for tonight.
Just like that.
[1:28:41] » And now we got one more item to go.
[1:28:46] I move the select board go into
executive session per title 25 part 5
[1:28:51] chapter 252 section 2006 to discuss
concealed weapons permit application
[1:28:57] 0804
2026A and 08042026B
[1:29:04] second. All in favor
and O. We are in executive session.