[0:02] Hi, Jenna. >> Hi. Look at I was just noticing Brandy [0:07] and Mike match. [0:14] [laughter] >> Same colors. [0:19] » Brown, [laughter] >> right? [0:25] » Are we waiting? I think you might be virtual, but be [0:29] here for the right meeting. [0:31] » Oh, okay. Perfect. >> Just ask for a link for the pre meeting. [0:34] » Okay. And I do need to catch up with you text. [0:39] All righty. Let's go ahead and get started with first item on here are [0:43] federal earmarks. Um I'm going to pass that to Janine. Looks like we have a [0:47] couple staff members here to talk about the projects that we're looking at. So [0:50] go ahead, Janine. >> Thank you, mayor. So, um, we have been [0:53] working to identify projects that we, uh, have in the community or have [0:58] already had in our capital plan that would be eligible for federal funding [1:02] through earmarks. As you know, um, here at Hegelman's office is, uh, accepting [1:07] again this year the earmark applications. As you are aware, the city [1:11] has been successful in past years securing. Um, staff have put together a [1:16] list for you. Um, Pete is going to present that list and the information in [1:21] your memo. So with that, >> awesome. [1:23] » Welcome to the podium. [1:28] » Good evening, members of council. Pleasure to be with you again. [1:31] » Yes, this is our presentation of potential earmark request. The formal [1:35] name is congressionally directed spending. These are things that uh every [1:41] member of the House of Representatives is allowed to request. Every member is [1:45] allowed to request up to 15 different specific requests that get attached to [1:48] various different federal endeavors that go into the budget. Presumably, this [1:53] would be for the next upcoming fiscal year budget for the count for the uh for [1:56] the federal government. That would be something that theoretically they would [2:00] be passing around time passing by September 30th of this year. So [2:08] there are many many rules around the kinds of things you can request. there [2:13] many different subprograms and it's actually rather complicated as far as [2:17] matching a potential request to a potential source of funding [2:22] but but we have done a lot of work on in-house amongst ourselves and also with [2:27] our consultants to see strategies to try to figure out an appropriate set of [2:32] requests that are both timely for what we try to get done high priorities for [2:37] us that to accomplish and also matching with a with a reasonable source of [2:42] funding Having gone through all that, we've [2:45] we've come up with three different requests that we think would be a good [2:49] match for for potential for for the potential needs of the city. We would so [2:55] three requests that we have, one is a uh an antenna and radio communication [3:02] enhancements for the police department. This is a $1.6 million request. It's a [3:06] way to to add some additional encryption to the police department's rating [3:11] system. It would buy actual radios. It would also install an antenna at or near [3:16] the event center itself. You would hopefully get this and uh the [3:21] program we going through is called the Edward Burn grant program. That's nice [3:25] because it has no match requirements. If if we were to get the if we were to get [3:29] the uh award, we'd have to provide a local match. We've also asked for some [3:36] funding for bedline replacement. We know a few places in the city where there may [3:41] or or are certain very old water lines which may still have a certain amount of [3:47] lead in them and we certainly been monitoring them for for years and years [3:51] and years. This I mean get removing removing lead from from the system has [3:55] been a process of literally generations of public services directors who've been [4:01] gradually removing all those really old lines. But there are still some left in [4:05] there. And so this would be a request that would allow us to remove some of [4:09] the last of those and to make sure our system is 100% free. [4:15] That's about a $3 million request that we would be asking for there. And then a [4:19] third one would be Robertson Road. Robertson Road, as you may be aware, has [4:24] had a lot of congestion issues and certainly this came up a lot when we [4:27] were selling the truck lane property and we've got a lot of people feedback at [4:31] that time. Since then, we've done studies and we've got a got a a vision [4:36] for how we might go about making the traffic at Marson Road a little bit [4:40] better, widening it a little bit, adding some trails to get some people off the [4:44] roads, adding some left turn lanes. The idea being there that we could uh try to [4:49] get um try to try to clean up that intersection just a little bit and we do [4:54] believe that we could apply for some highway funds there. Uh that one, like [4:58] the water lines project, this one also would have a 20% match. So someone [5:03] requests 1.5 million for a $ 1.9 million project. [5:08] So >> how much would that be? [5:10] » So we would request 1.5 for for 1.9 the total would be 1.9. So [5:15] we would have to we would have to provide match [5:18] to get the entire project done as as we would like for that sector. Um but but [5:23] uh in regards to that question certainly when you make these requests, you never [5:28] know exactly what's going to happen. Certainly on the one hand [5:35] you can make the request for that dollar amount it might change where as it goes [5:40] through the congressional budgeting process which of course is extremely [5:43] complicated and hard to predict. It it it can it is entirely possible for [5:50] for if the congresswoman were to support our request which of course is the first [5:54] question then it has to get through various [5:58] approvals at different committees and so on they can [6:02] of course they can deny the request which is always their right. They can [6:07] also change the dollar amount which is not typical for it's it's one way in [6:11] which this is different from a normal grant request. If we were to receive [6:15] this as as a regular grant, [clears throat] [6:17] we know exactly what we're asking for, and chances are we'll get either that or [6:21] nothing at all. In this case, it's entirely possible to say, "Well, we'll [6:26] give you half as much as what you're asked for. Do what you can." And in [6:30] which case, that's what we would do. Get as much of the project on with the word. [6:36] » Go ahead. So this obviously wouldn't fund um that [6:43] amount of money wouldn't fund very much on that on that project in particular a [6:50] roundabout um with kind of a deal. The way I looked [6:57] at it um that alone be several million I'm guessing. Uh but uh um so is that [7:07] not included in the project or just widening [7:13] some of lower Robertson road? >> Sure. Um counselor mayor um that is not [7:20] included in the project. Be certain we did look at the overall [clears throat] [7:26] study design the theoretical design we would implement there. Certainly, it [7:30] would go for much further than just this little segment. And and I believe that [7:35] original cost estimates were something in the order of $8 million to do the [7:40] entire length of what we would want to do on Robertson River if funding were no [7:44] object. Um so, so you're right. No, this is just this is just that area closer to [7:50] the CY Avenue. It's it's a bit of the widening of the intersection and some [7:54] other work in that area. It um and certainly we had [8:00] It's understanding that we could not reasonably expect to get an award of [8:05] that size of $800. It just that's that's not in the that's not in the cards. So [8:09] So we we thought we would ask for something that's more limited which [8:13] would could still provide some benefit [8:18] questions for people. You said the three we already talked [8:22] about three projects already, right? >> Yes, exactly. would be the lead lines, [8:25] replacement of the water lines, potential for lead contamination, the [8:29] Robertson Road, and then an antenna for the police department and the radio. And [8:34] so, so yes, I guess the question that I would ask for mayor and for council [8:39] would be first of all, if that list is acceptable, and then if so, what the [8:46] prioritization among those three projects would be because that is [8:48] something that the congresswoman would would ask us. what if if I only did one [8:53] which would you choose and that is that is something we will need to communicate [8:58] that >> I mean to me looking at them just from [9:03] the from the 30,000 foot view the lead service drinking water seems fairly [9:08] important um as public safety communication but I also know I know I'm [9:12] not kind of I'm not very trying to single any of them out the Robertson [9:16] roads is important I know the vice mayor has talked often about that in his ward [9:20] Um, but if I had to look at something for me personally, um, would be the [9:25] suspected lead service would be probably one of our number one priorities, but [9:28] like to offer that, open that up to the council, see what their thoughts are [9:32] about priority. >> What was yours again? [9:35] » Uh, the suspected lead service drinking >> water. [9:39] So, I think that's been a problem around the state if I'm not mistaken. [9:42] » Certainly, it's been it's been a problem nationally actually. [9:45] » Absolutely. >> Yes. No. Um, and it's been something [9:48] that's that the EPA and a long time. [9:53] » Decades. >> Yeah. Yeah. [9:55] » Michael, sorry, Vice Mayor. I'll get you. [9:57] » My thoughts are the lead in the water pipes. I'm pretty sure EPA is going to [10:02] start going to come out with grants for us to be able to do that if we can't get [10:06] this. I think the antenna would be a little bit more [10:11] important, but they're all three. Great. [10:15] » They are. >> Vice Mayor, [10:18] » thank you, Mayor. Uh, Pete, I was hoping you could in regards to the antennas and [10:22] the radios. In the memo, it says that it will allow us to comply with the state [10:28] of Wyoming's updated mutual aid encryption protocol. [10:32] Could you provide a little bit more context and like are we currently not in [10:36] compliance with the mutual aid encryption protocol and [10:41] under what sort of timeline are we bound to? If not, what sort of timeline are we [10:47] bound to get into compliance? A little more context in that regard if you could [10:52] please. >> Thank you, Mr. Um, I can provide at [10:55] least a little bit more context. Um, certainly our radios are currently [11:00] encrypted and they do allow for cross communication with other agencies. Um, [11:05] however, there are these uh call them back channels. That's not the proper [11:09] channel where where the radios can be turned to another channel. And for some [11:14] of those channels, they are not naturally encrypted. So the state is now [11:18] upgrading its requested level of encryption to include both the front and [11:23] the back of the house if you want to think of it that way. So So right now [11:26] many of our radios or should say some of our radios are already compliant with [11:30] that higher standard, that new standard, but not all of them. So, so the purchase [11:36] of the radios would allow us to all the police department's radios was for also [11:42] sworn staff but also the other all the other police department officials who [11:46] have to carry radios including CSOS and you know patrol officers and other [11:49] people have to have radio. Anyway, it allow us to replace those older radios [11:53] with zero kind for both the front half and the back [11:57] half encryption and and move to the higher level of encryption which is also [12:02] a two key encryption rather than a one key encryption. Please don't ask me what [12:06] the difference is. [laughter] [12:10] » Yeah, go ahead. >> Thank you, Pete. Uh so for followup, I [12:13] think I got the answer uh in the additional information you provided, but [12:17] these radios are radios that we will need to purchase at some point in the [12:22] future. They're replacing existing radios. They're not in addition above [12:25] and beyond radios we're currently using. We're not adding to our kind of [12:30] inventory of assets. These are radios that need replaced at some point in [12:34] time. And when they do need replaced, they will need to have this encryption [12:40] protocol. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, um that is my understanding. Yes, that um [12:45] that certainly you had at one point requested a timeline. I don't know if [12:50] the state has given us a deadline thing. Thou shalt have your radios ready at [12:54] this time. However, I believe chief police is [12:57] standing behind me. [laughter] No pressure. He might have more information [13:01] than I do on this subject. [13:05] » Thank you. Great job. >> Thanks. Thank you, [laughter] Mayor [13:07] Counselor. Um so I'd really just speak about the antenna itself. We do have [13:11] some dead spots in Casper and if some of you remember, we've had some critical [13:14] incidents. They've been in the past, but some of our older buildings are concrete [13:19] and these portables that we have now do not um most buildings that are older do [13:23] not require that. Um >> I want to make sure I got my language [13:27] right. So it's bilateral communication. Um, so when we had the incident at the [13:31] hospital with the active shooter at the hospital some years ago, we were unable [13:35] to communicate in the hospital because the hospital did not [13:38] » that bad bilateral antenna is what it's called. [clears throat] [13:41] We have some dead spots across the front of the Casper Mountain. This new [13:45] antenna, if we got it, would help clear up some of those dead spots. Um, as well [13:50] as you also remember, we had the hostage situation down on North Popppler [13:56] in the uh old state building. name names but it was state agency where [14:03] unsecure building an attorney was taken hostage turned into a whole thing. We [14:07] had a problem with their interoper interoperable communication with our [14:10] portables because of the dead space down there. So this antenna at that proposed [14:15] site when we had a um some radio engineers come out and do a site survey. [14:18] That would be the best place to have it. Currently what we're operating on is a u [14:23] tower that we call the the tall grass tower. It's in Converse County. So, a [14:27] lot of our traffic, depending on where we're at, has to hit that tower down in [14:31] Converse County and then come back. It's not really a repeater anymore, but it [14:35] goes through that wild link system and then comes back. And so, this would help [14:39] with take some of the burden off that tower. And also, some of our traffic [14:42] here up on the west side of town hits the radio tower clear out at Alcoa. So, [14:46] this would help take some of that um traffic off those two towers and put it [14:51] here and help increase our communication. the portables themselves [14:55] when uh the state went to Wildlink and ponyied up some of that stuff. We're [14:59] still in good standing on those portables, but as you know, we being one [15:02] of the larger agencies in the state, sometimes we can call to go other [15:05] places. These portables will be able to flip a switch through dispatch, be able [15:09] to communicate seamlessly with those other agencies even though they're not [15:11] necessarily programmed. Their channels aren't programmed in our portals. That [15:15] makes sense. So, that's what Wild's trying to get to. [15:21] » Any other questions? Yeah, go ahead. >> Um, thank you for that, Chief. And I [15:29] my understanding when I've brought up uh the lead issue at regional water after [15:37] last year's I think it was wham um summer convention [15:44] um and brought back you know some concerns from that um via DEEQ [15:52] in a presentation um It's pretty well. [15:58] I think they're tracking at least in Casper where where the problems are and [16:05] I think they're down to less than 100 100 properties [16:10] uh that they're still tracking uh if I remember right. Uh but uh but anyway uh [16:19] I you know listening to some of the leg legislative stuff and some of the [16:26] hearings recently on on different things that sounds like the wild link um you [16:34] know and trying to keep keep up with technology. [16:38] I I think that's probably a quicker quicker need. Nothing against [16:46] you know they're all good projects. >> Yeah. [16:50] » So [16:53] » um I would just add a few things if I could council. Um so with respect to the [16:58] lead lines this came up during capital budget review and your understanding is [17:03] my understanding as well. Um this has been being tracked for some time. couple [17:07] years ago um during the Biden administration, the EPA really up the [17:11] ante and mandated uh jurisdictions that were not inventorying their system for [17:17] potential lead or other pipes that could can um hold lead. [17:22] They created a deadline for that to occur. So, Casper Regional Water has [17:26] that inventory has been chipping away at this. What kind of brought this to my [17:31] attention um and why I asked that maybe we look at this and um escalate the rate [17:38] at which we address lead lines is that Biden era mandate to inventory and then [17:45] remediate uh is still out there. Now, with the Trump administration taking [17:49] office, there was some question whether the Trump administration would roll back [17:53] these regulations like they have for things like um the toxic plastics and [17:59] groundwater, mercury, etc. But the most recent news I've seen is that the Trump [18:04] administration is saying they're going to hold firm on the mandate to [18:07] remediate, but the grant program, to your point, counselor, that would have [18:12] come with this to help with remediation remains in question. So, um I think your [18:18] point is a good one. If the grant program receives a federal green light, [18:24] then sure, we would love to utilize that funding and maybe make our other [18:28] project, one of the other projects a top priority. Um, what I will say though is [18:33] with the knowledge that these locations exist, I had concern that maybe we need [18:39] to get out and remediate these sooner versus later because we have a known [18:43] liability in in the pipes and um, lead is serious as we all know. So anyway, [18:50] what I would maybe suggest hearing what you've said, I think it's a good point. [18:54] Um, if we could elicit some information from the feds as to whether or not that [18:58] grant program will be reinvigorated and kept whole by the Trump administration, [19:02] then this could be depprioritized among the three. Um, but if we can't, then [19:09] maybe it it's a more urgent issue. So anyway, just some perspective for you. [19:13] And if any of our water engineering folks want to address this, they're [19:17] certainly welcome to add to to that. >> Don't feel pressured. [19:22] » You don't have to. [laughter] >> Don't feel bullied. [19:28] » I think everybody has covered it very well. Uh these are areas that we have [19:34] been track tracking for a while. They're not currently areas that we're concerned [19:39] with the quality as in life cycle of the pipe. [19:44] They're they're not exposed or they're not having frequent breaks or anything [19:48] like that. So, this is really just a lead service line or suspected lead [19:52] service line issue that we we'd rather get out ahead of than than wait for [19:58] other opportunities if we can. Just wrapping up, the concern is if the [20:03] mandate to remediate remains and we don't secure funding, will we find [20:06] ourselves down the road in a situation where oh, we have to have this [20:10] remediated in a year and there is no money. So, we're trying to be proactive. [20:14] So, thank you, Ethan. >> Yeah, just a quick question. I'm just [20:18] wondering, we're talking about prioritization and I'm wondering it [20:23] appears that these are coming from different pots of federal money. So, is [20:29] there really a need to I mean, are we talking about in terms of which one we [20:34] would advocate for more strongly or because it looks like they're from [20:39] different pots of money. So, if they'd be competing or not, [20:44] Mr. Mayor, Councelor Bond, um the answer to your question is that under the rules [20:49] of the House of Representatives, every representative of the House can can [20:52] submit only 15 requests. I see. I see. So, so inevitably you're not the only [20:57] agency that might asking >> and so she she may have to make some [21:01] choices. >> I see. Thank you for that clarification. [21:04] » All right, sir. >> Thank you, Mayor. I have a question, [21:06] Pete. I know previously we've always worked with Representative Hagman. Does [21:10] the Senate not also have any opportunities like this or [21:14] » Mr. Mayor, Mr. President? Um, the Senate can, but uh our senators have have [21:20] chosen to opt out of the this process. [21:27] submit any of these requests on their behalf. [21:33] » So, it sounds like the two that I'm hearing obviously are the communications [21:38] for the police and and the lead. Um, I guess I would offer or ask um what you [21:45] guys kind of look at those two. I'm sorry, Kyle, but it sounds like the [21:49] » I was going to say if no one's going to speak to it, I'm happy to advocate. Do [21:52] you want to advocate for before we move? >> Yeah, I mean since we haven't mentioned [21:56] it, um you [clears throat] know, uh councelor Sweeney, uh to your point, [22:00] this is everything south of the bridge to see why. Um I'm really thankful. I [22:06] think it was when Andrew Beamer was our public services director. I had asked [22:10] for some help with restriping that area of road and that did help tremendously. [22:15] Um so I'm very very pleased with that what that's done. But still the hill [22:19] leading up from north uh from Robertson Road Bridge 2C is only two lanes. And [22:25] this most recent snow event that we had, I was on my way to work or something. Um [22:30] it is often the case vehicles, two wheel drive vehicles get stuck on that hill. [22:34] In this case, it was a bus kind of jack knifed across that one lane of traffic. [22:38] Nobody can get through. It turns into a huge issue. And I'm sure there's dozens, [22:44] maybe hundreds of people that are very late to work those mornings. And it [22:48] happens almost every significant snow event. And so, you know, uh for people [22:52] that live in that area of town, you know, it's hard for me to say it should [22:56] be prioritized above clean drinking water and uh public safety critical [23:00] communication equipment, but certainly um I support this being on the list. And [23:06] uh you know it's a $2 million project that would eat up currently our streets [23:10] funding you know annual budget is 3.7 so that would eat up over half of our [23:14] annual budget. So it's something that would be very hard to do without some [23:17] sort of federal assistance. Uh but I do think it's it's a significant need in [23:22] that area town. So just my two cents. [clears throat] [23:28] » So sounds like we we're seeing now that you guys everybody heard from Kyle. I [23:32] agree. No I want to give you that opportunity my friend. [23:35] » Appreciate it. Um [laughter] uh but it sounds like the real [23:39] priorities where we're looking at are the lead um and the uh communications. [23:45] Uh I guess what do we want to be I it's going to be hard to put those two [23:50] » um or is everybody anybody leaning certain one? Mayor, I I think you [23:56] proposed all three, correct? Yeah. >> And then then you get kick back from [24:01] Egamman's office and saying, "Okay, this year I've got 45 in front of me. What's [24:06] your priority?" >> Is that how we want to do? Because I [24:09] know you in the in the memo it said you want to give us a priority now or am I [24:15] wrong in that, Peter? >> No, Mr. Mayor. You are correct. It would [24:18] it would be helpful at this time to know what your what your top priorities would [24:22] be so that we could communicate that. [clears throat] [24:25] Thanks, Mayor. I mean, if budget is not a variable in this equation and it's [24:30] just number of projects, we're asking for twice as much for the lead water [24:35] lines. And if we were to get that, you know, coming up with 1.6 for the police [24:39] department is probably easier than coming up with three million for water [24:43] lines. >> Water lines. Yeah. [24:45] » Um although rape payers. Yeah. I mean, so [24:49] that you know the ask is twice as much for the other one. Um, which again will [24:53] be borne by the rateayers in that case, but if we can do them a solid, I think [24:56] we owe it to them. >> Amber, [24:59] » yeah, I I had the same line of thought and ultimately I think the order that [25:03] they're in in the memo is the order I would [25:05] » Yes, >> if I had to prioritize them, I think [25:07] they're all worthy of being on the list, but uh if I had to prioritize, I would [25:12] just say proceed as is. Yes, >> I would second that. [25:18] » Anybody against that? Awesome. So, as the order it is in the memo. [25:24] » Thanks so much, sir. Appreciate it. >> Thanks. Thanks, Steph. [25:27] » Appreciate it. Thanks for coming up, Ethan. [25:31] » All right. Agenda review. Anybody have anything they'd like to talk about [25:35] that's in the P or in the um agenda for tonight? Anything? Questions, [25:40] clarification? >> Yeah, go ahead. [25:43] » So, Mayor, um I I probably should have asked to pull [25:52] off the consent agenda as far as the rate increase for the golf course. No, I [25:58] can't um [26:05] authorizing [26:09] the water utility rate adjustment amendment that's on consent. Um, [26:16] weren't we hearing tonight the the golf [26:23] course? >> Sounds like it's next [26:25] » coming up sweetie. >> Oh, it's not on. [26:28] » It is tonight or is not tonight? [cough] >> Uh, [clears throat] so actually when it [26:33] comes to the recreation enterprises, you all established a resolution of the [26:38] council that our rates would be set based on our cost recovery goals. And so [26:43] we have not since 2018 when that resolution was instituted uh passed [26:48] specific resolutions for rate increases to any of the enterprises except for the [26:53] cemetery. That's the exception because of specific statute related to [26:56] cemeteries. Um so generally speaking we have not brought a resolution for a [27:01] formal approval. Once you all give conceptuals we move forward with [27:06] implementing those rates based on that um 2018 resolution. [27:12] me to hear any feedback or concerns that you might still have. [27:18] » So, I didn't vehemently oppose it and I didn't give it a I didn't give a thumb [27:26] either way or a finger either. [laughter] So, [27:33] » I didn't know that was an option. [laughter] [27:36] » Something new every day. But um I I just uh but you know the [27:44] majority voted and and it was all good. But uh tonight I if if it was and I [27:51] thought I had seen it but I got it mixed up with with the um amendment. Um, so I [27:59] I just think with the winner we've had and lack of [28:05] winner up on Hogadon, those losses are going to be tremendous. Um, and u I just [28:13] don't know if we want that much more misery because I I do believe we're [28:18] going to have to water a lot more this summer um than previously. Hopefully [28:24] [clears throat] this storm does hit and dump in the [28:29] snowies and Sierra Madre and that's where the most of our north flat water [28:34] comes from. So um that might help but so I I [28:42] you [clears throat] know majority rules so [28:48] late to the dance. >> Yes. So, [28:52] thanks for [laughter] [28:55] any other questions. Do you have anything to add? [28:59] » No, I I was going to mention going through parks and recy board. That's the [29:04] only right. [29:09] I think that's probably clear. >> Want to address [29:13] » add a comment in response. We will absolutely monitor course conditions um [29:19] you know and and navigate the end of season as best as possible. We do also [29:25] offer um our package options of [29:31] F season pass that starts July 1. Um so look at altering that as well. I I think [29:40] there are options available to us and we would bring forward um some [29:43] recommendations if we felt like there needed to be a change. Um but we will [29:48] absolutely be monitoring the watering uh and the conditions of the course. Um but [29:54] would also say that you know season passes are the foundation of our revenue [30:00] streams and I think historically pass holders understand that. Um, and I think [30:06] when I did the math, a passholder would only need to golf 16 times to break even [30:11] as compared to paying a daily rate. Um, and so we still feel like our [30:15] passholders are getting good value and even in a dry summer, they would likely [30:19] far exceed that 16 time break even point. [30:25] » Thank you, Vice Mayor. >> Thanks, Mayor. No question, but uh I'm [30:29] just really thankful to have learned that uh you can go play the course for [30:32] free over the winter. And I went last weekend and it was beautiful and walked [30:36] 12 holes and and still a little sore about it. So yeah, just uh appreciate [30:40] it. It's nice. Those fairways run pretty good though in these dry winter [30:44] conditions. So that ball won't stop moving. [30:55] » So just a reminder of the non-conent where we had anything 500,000 or more [31:00] that we would discuss about that. So, just wanted to give a reminder Janine [31:04] was the heads up on that, but I think it'll be probably remembered. So, thank [31:07] you, Janine. >> So, um for items that are $500,000 or [31:13] higher, uh those will now be on your non-consent agenda. [31:17] » And tonight, you have two uh one is the screw pump project, what I which I think [31:21] most of you are very aware of, and the other is the McKinley Street uh work [31:24] with YOT. >> Brought it up after the 1.6 million [31:28] sewer interceptor project a few weeks back. [31:31] That was the vice mayor initiative >> exercising my authority. [31:36] » You [laughter] guys, you guys put me in the role. It's time to hand. [laughter] [31:44] » We need to be careful. >> What we paid for it. [31:47] » Thank Zelma. >> Thank you, Zelma. [31:51] Thanks.