1
00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:15,678
>> Good evening. We'll open the invocation.

2
00:00:17,817 --> 00:00:20,954
Heavenly father, your guidance and support in this meeting.

3
00:00:20,954 --> 00:00:24,891
We gather intent on doing good work.

4
00:00:24,891 --> 00:00:28,561
We seek to represent those in our task.

5
00:00:28,561 --> 00:00:31,831
And give us clarity and strength to use our bless

6
00:00:31,831 --> 00:00:36,503
skills and residents. Bless our business and visitors

7
00:00:36,503 --> 00:00:39,305
and help us to continue doing good work in your name.

8
00:00:39,305 --> 00:00:41,705
Amen. Roll call, please.

9
00:00:43,576 --> 00:00:45,976
>> Council member Ryan Hollingshead.

10
00:00:47,246 --> 00:00:49,246
Council member [ En.

11
00:00:57,190 --> 00:01:00,993
Mark mark, max max, Tim Dietz. >> Please rise for the pledge

12
00:01:00,993 --> 00:01:03,993
of allegiance. [ Pledge of allegiance]

13
00:01:22,215 --> 00:01:26,152
>> I'll go ahead and start with council comments.

14
00:01:26,152 --> 00:01:30,823
One of the things I wanted to mention that a lot of people

15
00:01:30,823 --> 00:01:34,828
maybe do know or don't know about.

16
00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:40,700
I was -- thad privilege last week of fishing with project

17
00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:44,437
healing waters. It's an organization that takes

18
00:01:44,437 --> 00:01:47,573
out veterans fishing. It's a great organization

19
00:01:47,573 --> 00:01:52,973
that's nation wide. If you're a veteran, I more

20
00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:59,779
than suggest that you go ahead and reach out to Project

21
00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:03,786
Healing Waters. They're a great organization.

22
00:02:03,923 --> 00:02:07,193
If you want to volunteer, they're fantastic.

23
00:02:07,193 --> 00:02:10,730
September is suicide awareness and prevention month.

24
00:02:10,730 --> 00:02:16,202
You know, our veterans and young adults are the two

25
00:02:16,202 --> 00:02:19,202
highest suicide rates in America.

26
00:02:20,730 --> 00:02:23,476
And really sad, it's really hard.

27
00:02:23,476 --> 00:02:27,680
And I encourage you to reach out to people who are in need.

28
00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,280
Remember you can call 988 suicide hotline.

29
00:02:32,686 --> 00:02:38,910
It's completely anonymous and a good number to call when you're

30
00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:40,491
in need. With that,

31
00:02:42,762 --> 00:02:47,633
>> Thank you, mayor. I wanted to thank all town

32
00:02:47,633 --> 00:02:50,837
staff for last night. We had a nice turnout.

33
00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:54,106
Our staff is always so prepared.

34
00:02:54,106 --> 00:02:57,776
Tons of answers for everyone. Encourage you to go and get

35
00:02:57,776 --> 00:02:59,445
informed. Thanks.

36
00:02:59,445 --> 00:03:01,445
>> Thanks. Councilmember bracken.

37
00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:12,592
>> Thank you for everybody who came out and wanted to learn

38
00:03:12,592 --> 00:03:18,264
more about district three and saw a few faces out there today

39
00:03:18,264 --> 00:03:22,601
and happy to follow up on anything needed.

40
00:03:22,601 --> 00:03:26,801
>> Councilman Davis. >> I was fortunate enough to

41
00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:29,141
get a tour of the new rec center.

42
00:03:29,141 --> 00:03:32,478
This was exciting. Once you get inside and you

43
00:03:32,478 --> 00:03:35,682
start seeing all the basketball courts, pickleball courts,

44
00:03:35,682 --> 00:03:39,282
volleyball. Everything is kind of separated

45
00:03:40,286 --> 00:03:45,891
from junior high skills to high school skills and Brian from

46
00:03:45,891 --> 00:03:49,695
the rec department got to walk me and Dave through that.

47
00:03:49,695 --> 00:03:52,832
I went last Wednesday. I think it took about an hour

48
00:03:52,832 --> 00:03:55,635
and a half just to walk through this building.

49
00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:58,170
This rec center is just going to be fantastic.

50
00:03:58,170 --> 00:04:02,375
I wanted to say thank you for -- I think it's Saunders

51
00:04:02,375 --> 00:04:05,975
working on that. And great group.

52
00:04:06,712 --> 00:04:10,316
And Brian, just being the PM for that.

53
00:04:10,316 --> 00:04:13,510
He's doing a phenomenal job. That thing is turning out

54
00:04:13,510 --> 00:04:15,321
fantastic. I wanted to thank all of you

55
00:04:15,321 --> 00:04:17,721
for that. >> Thank you.

56
00:04:20,593 --> 00:04:24,997
Councilmember brooks >> First a shout out to parks

57
00:04:24,997 --> 00:04:28,670
and recs and everybody that works on the lost canyon,

58
00:04:28,670 --> 00:04:31,537
volunteers. Had an opportunity to get

59
00:04:31,537 --> 00:04:35,875
throughout today and get on one of the trails, probably ill

60
00:04:35,875 --> 00:04:38,945
advised for me to do so but I decided to jog for most of one

61
00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:43,745
of them. So, I've been chewing on Advil.

62
00:04:48,821 --> 00:04:51,356
I encourage you to come on out there.

63
00:04:51,356 --> 00:04:54,961
It's the highlight of the open house tour of the year.

64
00:04:54,961 --> 00:04:58,431
It's coming up this Thursday. No offense to anybody else, but

65
00:04:58,431 --> 00:05:02,350
let's just be real. It's this Thursday.

66
00:05:02,350 --> 00:05:06,171
It's my open house at the Lost Canyon open space.

67
00:05:06,171 --> 00:05:10,971
If you've not been yet, 4:00-6:00 p.m.

68
00:05:11,444 --> 00:05:13,846
All the departments will be up there.

69
00:05:13,846 --> 00:05:17,116
I know parks and rec will be up there talking about the trails

70
00:05:17,116 --> 00:05:20,520
they have, and trails that coming.

71
00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,855
They're groomed exceptionally well.

72
00:05:22,855 --> 00:05:25,792
Such a great piece of land over a square mile of conservation

73
00:05:25,792 --> 00:05:28,928
easement. I encourage you to come out and

74
00:05:28,928 --> 00:05:31,630
check that out if you've not done that.

75
00:05:31,630 --> 00:05:34,600
I want to mention a couple of things on the chambers

76
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,800
'calendar. One, at the calf Lowell ranch.

77
00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:44,877
Just south of town here. 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. on Wednesday,

78
00:05:44,877 --> 00:05:49,770
September 23rd. If you're in the non-profit

79
00:05:49,148 --> 00:05:51,617
space in Castle Rock, this is a must attend.

80
00:05:51,617 --> 00:05:56,155
It basically is an opportunity to showcase your Castle Rock

81
00:05:56,155 --> 00:05:58,555
nonprofit. Sharing missions, recruiting

82
00:05:59,910 --> 00:06:02,280
volunteers. Something you cosign up for on

83
00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:05,765
the chamber website. So, I would encourage you to

84
00:06:05,765 --> 00:06:09,569
check that out if you're in the non-profit space, particularly

85
00:06:09,569 --> 00:06:14,243
if you're in Castle Rock. And finally, there's a town

86
00:06:14,243 --> 00:06:17,514
council candidate forum that the chamber is hosting, I think

87
00:06:17,514 --> 00:06:20,783
on their website it still says details will follow.

88
00:06:20,783 --> 00:06:24,654
That's on the fifth of October. So, time and location I don't

89
00:06:24,654 --> 00:06:27,990
think has been completely been put into stone yet.

90
00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:30,727
If you want to know who's running for the seats, three

91
00:06:30,727 --> 00:06:35,732
seats, mayor, district three and my seat, then definitely

92
00:06:35,732 --> 00:06:39,690
come out and listen to those candidates.

93
00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:42,669
>> A little lengthy but thank you.

94
00:06:42,806 --> 00:06:46,209
Council member Tim Dietz >> Thank you, council.

95
00:06:46,209 --> 00:06:50,680
I look at everybody here and I'm just grateful to god.

96
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,617
Just grateful that he thinks we all can do and be and where we

97
00:06:54,617 --> 00:06:58,421
are today. So, I just want to praise god

98
00:06:58,421 --> 00:07:00,156
tonight. Thank you.

99
00:07:00,156 --> 00:07:02,556
>> Thank you. Laura Cavey

100
00:07:05,495 --> 00:07:10,299
>> Yes, I've been working with our assistant town manager for

101
00:07:10,299 --> 00:07:16,840
a couple of years with a partnership over at the Douglas

102
00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,709
county high school this Saturday from 10:00 to 2:00.

103
00:07:19,709 --> 00:07:23,646
It's free. So, anybody who needs to

104
00:07:23,646 --> 00:07:25,248
recycle some paint, please come over.

105
00:07:25,248 --> 00:07:29,385
I think there's also one of the sports teams out there, maybe

106
00:07:29,385 --> 00:07:33,189
trying to fundraise a little bit from one of their teams.

107
00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:36,259
So, please go over there and support them.

108
00:07:36,259 --> 00:07:39,262
Secondly, I want to talk about something good.

109
00:07:39,262 --> 00:07:43,733
I got to go to the horizon of hope event a couple of weeks

110
00:07:43,733 --> 00:07:47,804
ago, which is an event honoring all the people that helped open

111
00:07:47,804 --> 00:07:50,339
our new cancer center. So.

112
00:07:50,339 --> 00:07:54,770
>> Of you didn't know we have a new cancer center in town.

113
00:07:54,770 --> 00:07:56,880
Everybody up here on the council worked very hard to

114
00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,350
bring that to this town. We did a lot.

115
00:08:00,350 --> 00:08:06,220
We waved impact fees. We did a lot of things to help

116
00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:08,958
have our own cancer center here in this town.

117
00:08:08,958 --> 00:08:14,431
And they had to still do $14 million worth of fundraising,

118
00:08:14,431 --> 00:08:18,568
and they did it. Our cancer center is open.

119
00:08:18,568 --> 00:08:22,839
We got to hear from some of the people in the cancer center and

120
00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:26,442
how wonderful it is to have something like that in the

121
00:08:26,442 --> 00:08:30,446
community today instead of having to drive to Lone Tree or

122
00:08:30,446 --> 00:08:34,646
Denver. It's one of the amazing things

123
00:08:36,652 --> 00:08:39,655
this council has done. I want to encourage everybody

124
00:08:39,655 --> 00:08:41,591
to go over there and take a look.

125
00:08:41,591 --> 00:08:43,592
Final thing, I have an open house.

126
00:08:43,592 --> 00:08:49,866
It is on the 29th of this month and it will be at fire station

127
00:08:49,866 --> 00:08:52,266
155 from 4:00 to 6:00. Thanks, mayor.

128
00:08:53,403 --> 00:08:56,672
>> Absolutely. Next on the agenda, I have a

129
00:08:56,672 --> 00:08:59,720
proclamation. Dyslexia awareness month.

130
00:09:05,348 --> 00:09:08,948
October 1st, 2026. Whereas dyslexia is a

131
00:09:11,755 --> 00:09:14,757
neurological difference that effects the development of

132
00:09:14,757 --> 00:09:18,828
accurate and fluid reading. Spelling and written language

133
00:09:18,828 --> 00:09:23,365
skills, while bearing no relationship to a person's

134
00:09:23,365 --> 00:09:27,565
intelligence, creativity or potential, and whereas children

135
00:09:27,971 --> 00:09:32,308
and adults can succeed when they received evidence-based

136
00:09:32,308 --> 00:09:35,845
structure from appropriately trained professionals and

137
00:09:35,845 --> 00:09:40,650
whereas Castle Rock is home to a way words, a specialized

138
00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:44,788
academic language therapy center that provides dyslexia

139
00:09:44,788 --> 00:09:47,857
therapy for those in local clinic and area schools,

140
00:09:47,857 --> 00:09:50,393
offering a level of specialized access for communities across

141
00:09:50,393 --> 00:09:54,597
the country that do not have. And whereas the center reaches

142
00:09:54,597 --> 00:09:57,600
many Castle Rock area students and families.

143
00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,400
DWLET need for a qualified dyslexia therapist and

144
00:10:02,872 --> 00:10:05,742
practitioners, continue to exceed services available.

145
00:10:05,742 --> 00:10:10,680
Whereas the inaugural drive will be held October 1st, 2026

146
00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:15,170
at the ridge Castle Pines north to raise awareness and funding

147
00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:17,417
for college-based training scholarships.

148
00:10:18,355 --> 00:10:22,759
And 100% of the proceeds will help build a sustainable

149
00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:25,895
network for qualified professionals to serve our

150
00:10:25,895 --> 00:10:29,632
students and families for years to come.

151
00:10:29,632 --> 00:10:35,320
And now the town of Castle Rock, Colorado, proclaims

152
00:10:35,238 --> 00:10:39,842
October as dyslexia awareness month in Castle Rock and

153
00:10:39,842 --> 00:10:43,442
recognizes October 1st, 2026, and encourages residents,

154
00:10:44,514 --> 00:10:47,250
schools, businesses and schools, organizations to learn

155
00:10:47,250 --> 00:10:50,720
about dyslexia. Recognize the strength and

156
00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:56,120
potential in individuals with dyslexia and support efforts to

157
00:10:56,859 --> 00:10:59,859
expand evidence-based intervention across the

158
00:11:00,630 --> 00:11:06,269
community and adopted by the town of Castle Rock in the town

159
00:11:06,269 --> 00:11:09,405
council of Colorado, first and final reading.

160
00:11:09,405 --> 00:11:13,209
I think we do have somebody who wanted to speak on that

161
00:11:13,209 --> 00:11:15,209
tonight? Thank you.

162
00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:21,417
It's a silver button. And my father had dyslexia as

163
00:11:21,417 --> 00:11:25,822
well. He took classes up until he was

164
00:11:25,822 --> 00:11:29,492
really an elder adult. So, thanks you guys.

165
00:11:29,492 --> 00:11:33,920
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and

166
00:11:34,698 --> 00:11:36,433
members of Castle Rock Town Council.

167
00:11:36,433 --> 00:11:39,702
It's truly an honor for us to be here today.

168
00:11:39,702 --> 00:11:43,506
I thing it's incredibly important it's recognizing

169
00:11:43,506 --> 00:11:46,242
dyslexia because this reflects a significant number of people

170
00:11:46,242 --> 00:11:50,446
right here in the community. If we use the commonly sited

171
00:11:50,446 --> 00:11:55,846
estimate, siting that roughly one in five people experience

172
00:11:55,985 --> 00:11:59,656
characteristics of dyslexia, here in Castle Rock, we're

173
00:11:59,656 --> 00:12:03,259
talking about 16,000 people and that doesn't include parents,

174
00:12:03,259 --> 00:12:06,529
teachers, siblings and families who walk along side them.

175
00:12:06,529 --> 00:12:09,732
The numbers are significant but there's a hopeful message.

176
00:12:09,732 --> 00:12:14,532
With the right structured literacy intervention, they can

177
00:12:17,207 --> 00:12:20,630
become successful readers. Support from the town of Castle

178
00:12:20,630 --> 00:12:24,990
Rock and programs like your community grant program help

179
00:12:24,990 --> 00:12:27,103
strengthen the people and the organizations working directly

180
00:12:27,103 --> 00:12:29,439
with these members of our community.

181
00:12:29,439 --> 00:12:32,775
When we create awareness, provide support and connect

182
00:12:32,775 --> 00:12:36,512
with students with effective intervention, we can change

183
00:12:36,512 --> 00:12:41,117
outcomes. Thank you again to the town of

184
00:12:41,117 --> 00:12:45,917
Castle Rock for recognizing dyslexia and supporting the

185
00:12:46,522 --> 00:12:51,590
students and our family. >> Thank you, T.J.

186
00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:54,864
As he mentioned, the right intervention, students with

187
00:12:54,864 --> 00:12:57,734
dyslexia can become successful readers.

188
00:12:57,734 --> 00:13:02,137
But access to the kind of specialized instruction depends

189
00:13:02,137 --> 00:13:04,473
on having highly trained educators.

190
00:13:04,473 --> 00:13:10,213
That is one of the reasons that the charitable foundation

191
00:13:10,213 --> 00:13:14,484
created the drive for dyslexia. On October 1st, we will THOES

192
00:13:14,484 --> 00:13:19,284
inaugural drive for dyslexia golf tournament in Colorado

193
00:13:19,888 --> 00:13:23,488
with proceeds supporting scholarship for specialides

194
00:13:24,627 --> 00:13:28,827
dyslexia training. By increasing the number of

195
00:13:29,565 --> 00:13:32,234
educators with this training, we increase the number of

196
00:13:32,234 --> 00:13:34,504
students and family whose have access to effective

197
00:13:34,504 --> 00:13:37,906
instruction. We're deeply grateful to the

198
00:13:37,906 --> 00:13:43,112
town of Castle Rock for recognizing October 1st as

199
00:13:43,112 --> 00:13:46,115
drive for dyslexia day and helping bring greater awareness

200
00:13:46,115 --> 00:13:49,715
to this important issue. Thank you.

201
00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520
>> Thank you, guys. [ Applause ]

202
00:14:08,471 --> 00:14:13,900
>> Next, the time is reserved for members to make a

203
00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:18,409
presentation on items or issues not in the agenda.

204
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,484
And nor will council make decisions on the items at this

205
00:14:22,484 --> 00:14:25,154
time. You may refer to items in staff

206
00:14:25,154 --> 00:14:28,157
for follow up. Three minutes for speaker, 30

207
00:14:28,157 --> 00:14:31,757
minutes total. Residents will begin priority

208
00:14:32,694 --> 00:14:37,699
and already signed up and followed by nonresidents and

209
00:14:37,699 --> 00:14:41,103
businesses outside of town of Castle Rock as time permits and

210
00:14:41,103 --> 00:14:46,503
accepting public comment on crgov/comments.gov and be

211
00:14:51,447 --> 00:14:54,249
included in public record. I have a handful of people

212
00:14:54,249 --> 00:14:57,519
signed up to speak. There's several people who

213
00:14:57,519 --> 00:15:00,255
didn't put a number or unscheduled.

214
00:15:00,255 --> 00:15:03,580
So, Andre. I can't pronounce your last

215
00:15:03,580 --> 00:15:07,196
name. Are you on scheduled comment or

216
00:15:07,196 --> 00:15:09,196
scheduled? Unscheduled?

217
00:15:09,731 --> 00:15:11,731
Great. Please do.

218
00:15:13,602 --> 00:15:16,872
>> You can sit down and just push the mic.

219
00:15:16,872 --> 00:15:20,409
There you go. Null mic down.

220
00:15:20,409 --> 00:15:23,813
>> First time. Long time listener, first time

221
00:15:23,813 --> 00:15:25,813
caller. Sorry.

222
00:15:26,882 --> 00:15:31,682
Good evening, mayor, members of council, fellow residents.

223
00:15:32,421 --> 00:15:39,280
My name is Andre and I'm here to speak on behalf of

224
00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,632
councilman mark mark. I'm resident of district four.

225
00:15:43,632 --> 00:15:49,320
I'm a voter and I've lived here for 20 years.

226
00:15:49,572 --> 00:15:56,172
And I am speaking to address the recent attacks on Mark's

227
00:15:57,913 --> 00:16:00,649
integrity and express my unwavering confidence in the

228
00:16:00,649 --> 00:16:04,186
work he's doing here. And for this community and of

229
00:16:04,186 --> 00:16:07,560
course my district. Our neighborhood.

230
00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,793
When I cast my vote for Mark Davis, I did not vote for a

231
00:16:11,793 --> 00:16:14,996
passive seat warmer. I voted for a man of

232
00:16:14,996 --> 00:16:19,402
conviction, that would stand up against the unchecked, rampant

233
00:16:19,402 --> 00:16:22,471
growth that threatens the character and heritage of our

234
00:16:22,471 --> 00:16:26,710
town. He campaigned on real reform,

235
00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:31,213
specifically reigning in the high-density development and

236
00:16:31,213 --> 00:16:35,413
bringing account tonight unelected boards that have

237
00:16:36,819 --> 00:16:39,889
prioritized outside inters over families like mine who actually

238
00:16:39,889 --> 00:16:43,359
live here. We've seen a coordinated

239
00:16:43,359 --> 00:16:48,159
campaign aimed at sidelining him through these political

240
00:16:49,980 --> 00:16:53,836
attacked manufactured out rage and weaponides recall effort.

241
00:16:53,836 --> 00:16:56,839
They're not interested in the well being of every day

242
00:16:56,839 --> 00:17:00,642
citizens like myself and many of those in this room.

243
00:17:00,642 --> 00:17:05,247
They're protecting their own interests and trying to silence

244
00:17:05,247 --> 00:17:09,452
the one or one on the council that refuses to bend a knee

245
00:17:09,452 --> 00:17:12,121
thee developer lobby. Not saying the rest of you do

246
00:17:12,121 --> 00:17:15,721
that. Just making note of it.

247
00:17:16,592 --> 00:17:21,263
When a public servant pushes back against political

248
00:17:21,263 --> 00:17:26,630
pressure, the establishment calls it playing hardball or

249
00:17:26,602 --> 00:17:32,200
fabricates corruption. What we see Mark doing, as a

250
00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:35,677
voter, I see him standing up for me.

251
00:17:35,677 --> 00:17:39,548
I don't call playing hardball. I know that he has my interests

252
00:17:39,548 --> 00:17:41,948
at heart. Although this

253
00:17:46,489 --> 00:17:49,558
politically-motivated attack, I know he's refusing to be

254
00:17:49,558 --> 00:17:52,361
bullied and he stands up for us.

255
00:17:52,361 --> 00:17:56,565
And I would say he's proven himself a man of upright

256
00:17:56,565 --> 00:18:00,636
character, focussed on serving us, the families, the

257
00:18:00,636 --> 00:18:02,838
neighborhoods and the future of Castle Rock.

258
00:18:02,838 --> 00:18:05,974
He's taken the heat because he's actually doing the job we

259
00:18:05,974 --> 00:18:10,513
sent him there to do. Challenging -- holding the

260
00:18:10,513 --> 00:18:13,449
line, challenging the status quo and putting residents

261
00:18:13,449 --> 00:18:17,649
first. I urge council to reject tease

262
00:18:20,522 --> 00:18:24,393
partisan tactics and respect at the will of the voters that put

263
00:18:24,393 --> 00:18:27,129
him here. >> Thank you, Andre.

264
00:18:27,129 --> 00:18:31,929
Appreciate it. And you wanted them to, quote,

265
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,656
vote without influence from us, end quote.

266
00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:39,860
You went on to reiterate at the meeting that quote, my look of

267
00:18:39,860 --> 00:18:45,733
support for this is 100% about I don't feel like it's

268
00:18:45,733 --> 00:18:49,470
necessarily our job to promote a vote on the ballot.

269
00:18:49,470 --> 00:18:54,675
I feel it needs to be reviewed without influence from council.

270
00:18:54,675 --> 00:18:59,475
At the September 25, 2023 meeting, you stated a similar

271
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,951
resolution the previous year and it was unchanged.

272
00:19:03,951 --> 00:19:09,351
So, I went back to the September 2022 council meeting

273
00:19:10,625 --> 00:19:14,161
where you said it's not in the purview to influence which way

274
00:19:14,161 --> 00:19:18,990
they vote. I'm calling you out on your

275
00:19:18,990 --> 00:19:22,302
hypocrisy for using your elected position to promote

276
00:19:22,302 --> 00:19:26,390
your own bigoted beliefs and breaking your own

277
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:27,642
self-professed moral code to do so.

278
00:19:27,642 --> 00:19:31,242
>> Thank you, Megan. Next Randy Reed.

279
00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:55,870
>> Mayor, council, thank you very much for this opportunity

280
00:19:55,870 --> 00:20:01,870
to address you tonight. This is an issue that I'm

281
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,879
asking you to consider. This has been going on for

282
00:20:04,879 --> 00:20:10,879
about three years now. And it has to do with

283
00:20:11,819 --> 00:20:14,422
recreation amenity of the town of Castle Rock.

284
00:20:14,422 --> 00:20:19,427
The town is a full-service, free-standing community and in

285
00:20:19,427 --> 00:20:23,764
1999, town of Castle Rock created the red hot ridge golf

286
00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:26,501
course. Obviously for residents and a

287
00:20:26,501 --> 00:20:30,371
resident recreational facility. Of course, we'd welcome

288
00:20:30,371 --> 00:20:34,709
nonresidents. About three years ago -- let me

289
00:20:34,709 --> 00:20:38,512
back up. At that time when the

290
00:20:38,512 --> 00:20:42,984
conception of the golf course, residents could have 8-day

291
00:20:42,984 --> 00:20:45,586
advance, and non-residents would have seven days.

292
00:20:45,586 --> 00:20:51,125
Three years ago, a policy was instituted that if you wanted

293
00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:56,264
to get a tee time prior to eight days but less than 30

294
00:20:56,264 --> 00:21:00,134
days, you'd pay an additional charge of $20.

295
00:21:00,134 --> 00:21:04,805
I think that was upped to $25 last year to do that, for

296
00:21:04,805 --> 00:21:08,943
the -- it was nonrefundable, $25 charge to get one

297
00:21:08,943 --> 00:21:13,800
outside -- above eight days and no longer than 30 days out.

298
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,680
This actually has become a very deterrent to the residents and

299
00:21:21,221 --> 00:21:24,825
it was a recreational community for the residents.

300
00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:29,625
A non-resident, that increase of $25, only represents a 30%

301
00:21:30,564 --> 00:21:32,967
increase for their agreeing fee.

302
00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:36,170
A resident, it represents a 40% increase.

303
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:39,573
Not fair to the resident for the resident is the -- what

304
00:21:39,573 --> 00:21:42,977
this recreational facility was created for.

305
00:21:42,977 --> 00:21:47,314
I understand the golf course is an enterprised fund, which

306
00:21:47,314 --> 00:21:49,917
means it's not a revenue generator for the town of

307
00:21:49,917 --> 00:21:54,455
Castle Rock. So, therefore, I'd say we need

308
00:21:54,455 --> 00:21:59,659
to take a good look at this. I understand that revenue helps

309
00:21:59,659 --> 00:22:02,263
the golf course -- it's a wonderful golf course.

310
00:22:02,263 --> 00:22:03,997
Great amenity to this community.

311
00:22:03,997 --> 00:22:08,402
But it's become a deterrent to the residents.

312
00:22:08,402 --> 00:22:11,271
This policy has worked against the residents of the town of

313
00:22:11,271 --> 00:22:13,607
Castle Rock. I know you don't want to give

314
00:22:13,607 --> 00:22:16,209
up that revenue. I get that.

315
00:22:16,209 --> 00:22:22,149
But I think there needs to be an adjustment and what I would

316
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:28,749
propose to council to direct parks and rec, they would only

317
00:22:30,891 --> 00:22:33,561
have a $10 fee of the advanced tee time.

318
00:22:33,561 --> 00:22:36,561
Where the non-residents would pay 25.

319
00:22:37,631 --> 00:22:43,310
There needs to be some sort of adjustment there.

320
00:22:57,384 --> 00:23:01,584
He got up at midnight. It was 120.

321
00:23:09,663 --> 00:23:13,734
Next we have Janet. Can't pronounce that last name

322
00:23:13,734 --> 00:23:17,934
either. >> I'm here on behalf of Mark

323
00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:44,365
Davis to support him. I'm a Colorado native that

324
00:23:44,365 --> 00:23:45,900
lived in Castle Rock for 26 years.

325
00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:51,300
We went around to promote his Town Council integrity.

326
00:23:58,913 --> 00:24:06,113
One of the things he ran on. Most residents I think prefer.

327
00:24:09,189 --> 00:24:12,459
I think what happened was a mistake.

328
00:24:12,459 --> 00:24:15,329
He was trying to appease maybe the developer.

329
00:24:15,329 --> 00:24:19,600
Maybe didn't do it in the right way as a Town Council person

330
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,869
because he doesn't have any leverage to do anything outside

331
00:24:22,869 --> 00:24:26,540
of the whole board. I think this mistake is being

332
00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:31,144
politically motivated to try to upseat him so they can replace

333
00:24:31,144 --> 00:24:36,160
him with people that are part of the downtown development

334
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,621
board and the design board. And one of the candidates

335
00:24:40,621 --> 00:24:44,492
that's running for mayor, they're all in cahoots with

336
00:24:44,492 --> 00:24:47,562
wanting to change what's happening with downtown Castle

337
00:24:47,562 --> 00:24:50,765
Rock. Mark stood his ground and he's

338
00:24:50,765 --> 00:24:55,504
being persecuted for it, I see. So, I just want to say I think

339
00:24:55,504 --> 00:25:02,104
he's a great Town Council district member and want to see

340
00:25:02,978 --> 00:25:05,378
him stay. >> Kevin Frazier.

341
00:25:23,598 --> 00:25:30,198
>> My name is Evan Frazier. I'm here to support Mark Davis.

342
00:25:30,672 --> 00:25:34,809
I didn't find out about this until last night.

343
00:25:34,809 --> 00:25:38,613
But I think the thing we're all hearing is whether Mark made a

344
00:25:38,613 --> 00:25:42,150
mistake or not, we're all sick and tired of the development.

345
00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:44,819
We don't want to see this high density.

346
00:25:44,819 --> 00:25:52,190
It is ruining our city. I think that's what we put Mark

347
00:25:52,494 --> 00:25:56,298
in charge of and that's why we wanted to stay.

348
00:25:56,298 --> 00:26:01,103
And I'd rather see developers and people like Miles Davis

349
00:26:01,103 --> 00:26:04,705
leave and not come back. Thank you.

350
00:26:04,705 --> 00:26:09,505
>> Thank you, Evan. I just got public comments.

351
00:26:11,847 --> 00:26:15,450
Moving on to the town report. >> Good evening.

352
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:20,250
A few items to go over this evening.

353
00:26:21,189 --> 00:26:24,726
As we've been talking about, we have open houses.

354
00:26:24,726 --> 00:26:29,526
There we go. Council member Brooks is here

355
00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:34,536
on Thursday. If you haven't had an

356
00:26:34,536 --> 00:26:39,274
opportunity to get to Lost Canyon Ranch, this is your

357
00:26:39,274 --> 00:26:42,477
chance to do so. I think it's going to be

358
00:26:42,477 --> 00:26:44,279
spectacular at the ends of the day.

359
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:48,350
We appreciate the community coming, in particularly, the

360
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:52,420
residents in district five. You see the other open houses

361
00:26:52,420 --> 00:26:57,910
there as well. And we really appreciate the

362
00:26:57,910 --> 00:27:02,491
opportunity to hear from citizens I know that council

363
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:07,297
members and Mayor ProTem do as well.

364
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,390
I know we have the county employees years of service

365
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:14,109
celebration. September 30th is a very

366
00:27:14,109 --> 00:27:17,445
important day in my life. It was the birthday of my first

367
00:27:17,445 --> 00:27:21,449
daughter. And they said September 30th is

368
00:27:21,449 --> 00:27:24,386
the most beautiful day of the year and it usually is.

369
00:27:24,386 --> 00:27:28,589
It's going to be a great morning to celebrate with our

370
00:27:28,589 --> 00:27:32,189
employees that years of service celebration.

371
00:27:34,662 --> 00:27:38,667
Moving into October, the state of the town event, the entire

372
00:27:38,667 --> 00:27:41,402
community is invited to attend that.

373
00:27:41,402 --> 00:27:45,140
On October 2nd, the fire department is hosting a values

374
00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:48,743
and vision celebration. Council, you are particularly

375
00:27:48,743 --> 00:27:55,150
invited to attend that as well. You all have been invited to

376
00:27:55,150 --> 00:27:58,420
the well spring event. The community and Town Council

377
00:27:58,420 --> 00:28:01,289
have been strong supporters of well spring.

378
00:28:01,289 --> 00:28:03,758
We like the go and celebrate with them.

379
00:28:03,758 --> 00:28:08,829
And then we've got on October 8 when the open house that Castle

380
00:28:08,829 --> 00:28:13,340
Rock water is hosting on their strategic resources master

381
00:28:13,340 --> 00:28:16,438
plan. It's a great opportunity for

382
00:28:16,438 --> 00:28:19,574
all of the community to come and learn about what we're

383
00:28:19,574 --> 00:28:22,710
doing for water now and what our plans are for in the

384
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:25,460
future. We get questions at open

385
00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:28,646
houses. We're more than happy to

386
00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:31,653
respond to them in whatever venue you want.

387
00:28:31,653 --> 00:28:34,522
Email, phone call, come to an open house.

388
00:28:34,522 --> 00:28:38,927
But here's an opportunity to also engage with Mark and his

389
00:28:38,927 --> 00:28:41,128
staff in regards to the water plan that we have.

390
00:28:41,128 --> 00:28:45,934
And finally, you have on your calendars I we have an

391
00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:48,603
appreciation event for our boards and commission on

392
00:28:48,603 --> 00:28:51,603
October 29th. Just a few.

393
00:28:53,141 --> 00:28:59,141
We're kind of winding down the concert season there with

394
00:28:59,747 --> 00:29:05,147
another free concert here on the 17th of September.

395
00:29:05,553 --> 00:29:09,824
And that will be right after the open house.

396
00:29:09,824 --> 00:29:14,628
And then we've got Oktoberfest. Which I've learned doesn't

397
00:29:14,628 --> 00:29:18,990
always have to be in October. Apparently in Germany, they

398
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:21,503
start early. So, we're starting early as

399
00:29:21,503 --> 00:29:26,974
well here, this weekend. And I know Kevin tillsen, the

400
00:29:26,974 --> 00:29:30,578
town down merchant's association, they put this on.

401
00:29:30,578 --> 00:29:35,650
We obviously have some help. And Kevin and Kara and that

402
00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:37,986
whole group do a good job putting that on.

403
00:29:37,986 --> 00:29:40,455
We certainly encourage the community to attend.

404
00:29:40,455 --> 00:29:45,393
And then we've got a few other items as well.

405
00:29:45,393 --> 00:29:51,332
On September 26th, parks is supporting an event at Los

406
00:29:51,332 --> 00:29:54,602
Canyon ranch. I started showing up.

407
00:29:54,602 --> 00:29:58,139
We're going to start clipping barbed wire that's left over

408
00:29:58,139 --> 00:30:01,900
from the old ranching days that make it feel more like open

409
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:05,146
space. Going to be a neat event as

410
00:30:05,146 --> 00:30:07,882
well. And moving into neighborhood

411
00:30:07,882 --> 00:30:11,619
meetings. The town goes beyond what state

412
00:30:11,619 --> 00:30:17,491
law requires for development. We require a series of open

413
00:30:17,491 --> 00:30:19,891
meetings for proposed development.

414
00:30:20,562 --> 00:30:24,365
You see those set out there. These are hosted by the

415
00:30:24,365 --> 00:30:27,902
developer. We have town staff there to

416
00:30:27,902 --> 00:30:30,105
answer any kind of general questions.

417
00:30:30,105 --> 00:30:35,710
But these are the opportunities for the applicant to interact

418
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:39,113
with their neighbors and anybody else interested in

419
00:30:39,113 --> 00:30:42,316
regards to that project. The one there on September

420
00:30:42,316 --> 00:30:47,116
30th, that is obviously the town-owned Cantrel school.

421
00:30:49,657 --> 00:30:52,594
It's zoned >> Thank you, mayor, members of

422
00:30:52,594 --> 00:30:54,620
council. No report.

423
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:58,800
>> Thank you. Moving on to the acceptance of

424
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,600
the agenda. For motion to accept agenda as

425
00:31:04,272 --> 00:31:08,472
presented. Second by mayor pro tem and

426
00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:18,150
council member Bracken. >>.

427
00:31:24,826 --> 00:31:27,226
[ Roll call] >> Motion passes.

428
00:31:28,563 --> 00:31:34,563
>> Moving on to calendar. They've been voted on a single

429
00:31:35,170 --> 00:31:38,770
motion without discussion. Member six, proclamation,

430
00:31:39,974 --> 00:31:42,374
2026-12. Fire prevention week.

431
00:31:43,244 --> 00:31:46,244
And October 10, 2026. Seven minutes, 23 minutes,

432
00:31:48,382 --> 00:31:51,382
September 1st, 2026, September council meeting.

433
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,120
I accept the motion. >> Second.

434
00:31:56,123 --> 00:31:59,723
>> And second member pro tem cavey.

435
00:32:00,195 --> 00:32:03,795
Roll call, please. >> Council member Brooks,

436
00:32:08,269 --> 00:32:12,469
dietz. Mayor pro tem Laura Cavey, and

437
00:32:13,208 --> 00:32:16,100
Mayor Jason Gray. Motion passes unanimously.

438
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:20,210
>> The following items are due-process hearings required

439
00:32:20,281 --> 00:32:24,352
under Colorado law. To afford all parties due

440
00:32:24,352 --> 00:32:27,622
process under law, they must be fair and impartial and decide

441
00:32:27,622 --> 00:32:30,910
whether an application should be approved with conditions or

442
00:32:30,910 --> 00:32:33,910
denied. Each council member must

443
00:32:34,496 --> 00:32:38,299
consider for the record, planning and recommendation,

444
00:32:38,299 --> 00:32:40,568
applicant presentation and public comment presented during

445
00:32:40,568 --> 00:32:43,838
the hearing and other public comments offered before or

446
00:32:43,838 --> 00:32:48,109
duffering the hearing. Under law, Town Council must

447
00:32:48,109 --> 00:32:52,313
evaluate the proposal solely on the record and criteria

448
00:32:52,313 --> 00:32:54,849
established under municipal code, which is highlighted in

449
00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:59,649
the staff report. For it's important each council

450
00:32:59,721 --> 00:33:03,390
member must remain objective on information offered into record

451
00:33:03,390 --> 00:33:07,595
during the hearing. If they feel incapable to vote

452
00:33:07,595 --> 00:33:11,466
on due process requirements, please describe the situation

453
00:33:11,466 --> 00:33:14,936
and recuse yourself from further participation.

454
00:33:14,936 --> 00:33:19,730
Does any council member have a conflict or interest he or she

455
00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:22,770
would like the discuss prior to the proceeding?

456
00:33:22,770 --> 00:33:27,477
Has this been properly noticed under applicable notes for

457
00:33:27,949 --> 00:33:30,484
these land-use hearings? >> They have.

458
00:33:30,484 --> 00:33:34,289
>> They'll hear from the applicant, public and staff,

459
00:33:34,289 --> 00:33:37,289
four minutes per speaker. 2026-30.

460
00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:43,430
Ordinance with 422 front street, Naples as local

461
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:49,430
landmark, amending 15-64-060 of the Castle Rock municipal code.

462
00:33:49,771 --> 00:33:52,906
>> Thank you, mayor and Town Council.

463
00:33:52,906 --> 00:33:56,110
This is 422 front street, historically known as the

464
00:33:56,110 --> 00:33:59,710
Naples. It's located in the Craigen

465
00:34:01,181 --> 00:34:04,986
gull neighborhood, our first historical residential zone in

466
00:34:04,986 --> 00:34:07,986
town. About .2 acres incise and

467
00:34:09,456 --> 00:34:12,393
located south of fifth street. The history about this

468
00:34:12,393 --> 00:34:16,593
property. And as part of the local

469
00:34:17,650 --> 00:34:20,802
landmark process, we hire a contractor to do what's called

470
00:34:20,802 --> 00:34:24,872
a cultural resource survey on the property that goes into the

471
00:34:24,872 --> 00:34:28,609
details of the historical nature of it, that is in

472
00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:32,146
attachment to the staff report. This home was constructed in

473
00:34:32,146 --> 00:34:34,546
1901 and 1902 by George Stewart.

474
00:34:34,882 --> 00:34:37,882
A 1.5 story classic cottage home.

475
00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:42,623
It was -- he had historical significance ties to the

476
00:34:42,623 --> 00:34:44,825
community. And a lot of different ways.

477
00:34:44,825 --> 00:34:48,496
But one of which is he also owned the land around the rock

478
00:34:48,496 --> 00:34:50,498
zone. We'll touch on that a little

479
00:34:50,498 --> 00:34:53,498
bit. Historically been a home.

480
00:34:54,502 --> 00:34:56,703
Front street does allow business uses in the same area

481
00:34:56,703 --> 00:35:01,420
too. Wanted to give a touch on that.

482
00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:03,711
Here's what the home looks like.

483
00:35:03,711 --> 00:35:10,311
Here's a picture. You can see that it is clad in

484
00:35:10,985 --> 00:35:14,585
locally-quaryed we lite. Construction finished in 1902.

485
00:35:17,925 --> 00:35:20,925
These are not historical windows.

486
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:24,465
it's a roof with over hanging eves and you can see it has a

487
00:35:24,465 --> 00:35:29,136
small dormer on the front. On the front porch, the half

488
00:35:29,136 --> 00:35:32,740
porch is the main entrance. The other shows access off the

489
00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:35,810
rear side. It's served by front street and

490
00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:40,140
the alley behind it. It has a more modern handicap

491
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:45,190
access to it now. So, how does a local landmark

492
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:48,556
process work? We laid out the two main areas

493
00:35:48,556 --> 00:35:51,559
in the code. The property must meet two of

494
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:55,296
the criteria and the first significance column and one or

495
00:35:55,296 --> 00:35:58,896
more in the historic integrity column.

496
00:36:00,902 --> 00:36:03,437
They found that it does meet four different ones under the

497
00:36:03,437 --> 00:36:06,841
significance column. Part of the early development

498
00:36:06,841 --> 00:36:10,511
of the Craig and gold addition to town.

499
00:36:10,511 --> 00:36:15,516
Classic cottage architecture style and clad in the rye lite

500
00:36:15,516 --> 00:36:19,319
and the Stewart family has owned it for more than four

501
00:36:19,319 --> 00:36:21,550
decades and they were prominent members of the community at the

502
00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:23,455
time. Under historical integrity,

503
00:36:25,326 --> 00:36:30,598
they meet all criteria. Staff reviewed it, took oo to

504
00:36:30,598 --> 00:36:35,998
the historical reservation board and found it met the

505
00:36:36,270 --> 00:36:41,700
criteria for landmarking. And the applicant, David BRAUN,

506
00:36:42,343 --> 00:36:46,280
I believe is in attendance tonight and we're happy to

507
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,216
answer any questions you may have in consideration of the

508
00:36:49,216 --> 00:36:52,216
motion. >> Any questions for Tara?

509
00:36:55,356 --> 00:36:59,894
Would the applicant like to sneak he doesn't have to.

510
00:36:59,894 --> 00:37:03,494
If you want to. Yes, sir.

511
00:37:11,926 --> 00:37:16,130
If someone wishes to speak, come to the podium, state your

512
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:20,100
name whether you're a resident, non-resident, business owner.

513
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:23,710
Seeing none, we'll bring it back to counsel for further

514
00:37:23,710 --> 00:37:25,940
discussion and a motion. >> Motion to approve ordinance.

515
00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:30,145
>> Second. >> We have a first and a second

516
00:37:30,145 --> 00:37:33,481
and Mark Davis needs to speak. >> I need to recuse myself.

517
00:37:33,481 --> 00:37:37,681
I know the owner. >> Thank you, Mark.

518
00:37:41,555 --> 00:37:48,229
I have a first from council member brooks and a second from

519
00:37:48,229 --> 00:37:50,629
Ryan Hollingshead. Roll call

520
00:37:52,834 --> 00:37:56,434
>> Council member Ryan Hollingshead, council member

521
00:37:58,573 --> 00:38:02,173
Kevin Bracken, council member Max Brooks.

522
00:38:04,846 --> 00:38:08,446
And Tim Dietz. Motion passes 6-0.

523
00:38:08,650 --> 00:38:12,250
>> Thank you. Next discuss action items

524
00:38:13,254 --> 00:38:15,654
number nine. Direction, discussion,

525
00:38:17,792 --> 00:38:20,792
2026-2022. Direction applications for the

526
00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:26,334
third quarter grant program and three eligible applicants.

527
00:38:26,334 --> 00:38:29,300
Trigs >> Thank you, mayor pro tem and

528
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:33,741
mayor and council. I'm here to present the third

529
00:38:33,741 --> 00:38:37,341
quarter applications for the grant PRAgram.

530
00:38:39,346 --> 00:38:41,682
Some changes in the requirements.

531
00:38:41,682 --> 00:38:44,952
These are changes council approved in third quarter, I

532
00:38:44,952 --> 00:38:47,955
believe it was, 2025. I'm not going through all of

533
00:38:47,955 --> 00:38:51,159
those. I just want them up there so we

534
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:56,559
can see what we're comparing applications to for approval.

535
00:38:56,631 --> 00:39:01,236
Overview of our current budget. Council had approved a $20,000

536
00:39:01,236 --> 00:39:05,840
budget for this program and we allocate that 5,000 per quarter

537
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,709
and five grants per quarter would equate to $5,000 per

538
00:39:08,709 --> 00:39:11,709
grant. First and second quarter.

539
00:39:12,513 --> 00:39:16,583
Council provided three grants each of $1,000 each.

540
00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:19,787
We have spent 6,000. This is a lot of math.

541
00:39:19,787 --> 00:39:23,858
So, we spent 6,000. A remaining budget of 14,000

542
00:39:23,858 --> 00:39:26,593
for the year. We're looking at quarters,

543
00:39:26,593 --> 00:39:28,993
three. We've received three

544
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,800
applications we believe are eligible for the grant program.

545
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,137
One we did receive, we forwarded over to the art

546
00:39:36,137 --> 00:39:38,339
program because it was no longer eligible under the new

547
00:39:38,339 --> 00:39:42,539
requirements. First item the kids of Denver

548
00:39:43,878 --> 00:39:45,880
They've received grants in the past.

549
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,151
They're doing a promotion called "choose for every

550
00:39:50,151 --> 00:39:52,820
shopper." So, they provide clothing and

551
00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:57,250
shoes to families or students of low income or in-crisis

552
00:39:57,250 --> 00:40:00,428
families. And they're trying to get --

553
00:40:00,428 --> 00:40:04,280
provide new shoes for about 153 students.

554
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,169
They're asking for $1,000 to help in that effort.

555
00:40:09,169 --> 00:40:12,169
And the Alta charitable foundation.

556
00:40:12,707 --> 00:40:15,576
This is an organization out of Texas that you heard is a local

557
00:40:15,576 --> 00:40:19,380
focus here. And I believe they're called "a

558
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:22,649
way words." And they're asking for a

559
00:40:22,649 --> 00:40:25,649
thousand dollars to fund education.

560
00:40:27,321 --> 00:40:30,321
Language training for therapy credentials.

561
00:40:31,392 --> 00:40:37,392
The last one we have is called the Aspen effect.

562
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:44,538
Where they compare with mentors and they work with youth to

563
00:40:44,538 --> 00:40:48,750
prevent mental health crisis, harmful behaviors, and really

564
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,878
the partnership between the mentors and the animals in that

565
00:40:50,878 --> 00:40:53,681
ranch setting. And they're asking for a

566
00:40:53,681 --> 00:40:56,684
thousand dollars as well. And that would be to support

567
00:40:56,684 --> 00:41:00,221
two Castle Rock families to participate in the program.

568
00:41:00,221 --> 00:41:03,424
So, those are the three organizations that we are

569
00:41:03,424 --> 00:41:05,426
presenting for consideration this evening.

570
00:41:05,426 --> 00:41:08,629
Quickly, I'm just going to show you the eligibility process for

571
00:41:08,629 --> 00:41:12,900
each of these. Clothes to kids of Denver.

572
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,569
Every item, they met eligibility.

573
00:41:15,569 --> 00:41:19,907
It is not locally based but they do provide local benefit.

574
00:41:19,907 --> 00:41:24,245
That was something that council in the past always wanted to

575
00:41:24,245 --> 00:41:29,645
know with that organization. Similar to the Alta charitable

576
00:41:31,518 --> 00:41:36,924
foundation, not Castle Rock based but it is a local chapter

577
00:41:36,924 --> 00:41:41,863
of the Alta foundation. And aspen qualified for each of

578
00:41:41,863 --> 00:41:44,465
the five attributes we look for.

579
00:41:44,465 --> 00:41:48,136
There's that's all I have. And I believe there's members

580
00:41:48,136 --> 00:41:51,205
of each organization in the audience should you have

581
00:41:51,205 --> 00:41:54,141
questions or like to comment. >> Would any of the three

582
00:41:54,141 --> 00:41:57,145
organizations like to speak? You don't have to.

583
00:41:57,145 --> 00:42:00,745
Yes, sir. >> Mayor Gray and councilman.

584
00:42:15,763 --> 00:42:21,763
Thank you for this opportunity. We served -- I remember

585
00:42:23,637 --> 00:42:29,370
councilman Dietz were serving over 250 kids and this year

586
00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:35,516
over 300 kids. And we've started a

587
00:42:35,516 --> 00:42:40,321
parent-support program. So, I believe we can add value

588
00:42:40,321 --> 00:42:43,724
and I'm just grateful for the opportunity to be fund by the

589
00:42:43,724 --> 00:42:46,724
city. >> Thank you very much.

590
00:42:46,861 --> 00:42:49,261
Any questions? Thank you.

591
00:42:52,934 --> 00:42:56,270
I have no -- if anyone wishes to speak, come to the podium

592
00:42:56,270 --> 00:42:58,873
and state resident, nonresident or business owner.

593
00:42:58,873 --> 00:43:02,610
Four minutes to speak. Seeing none, we'll bring that

594
00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:06,140
back to Town Council for a possible motion and discussion.

595
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:12,140
>> May MR mayor, I move funding to the following organizations

596
00:43:13,339 --> 00:43:18,277
agreement with Aloe source to help bring jobs and capital

597
00:43:18,277 --> 00:43:22,810
investment to Castle Rock. Primary employers are very

598
00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:26,180
important to our community. They provide jobs for our

599
00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:29,618
community. And allow our residents a

600
00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:33,159
high-quality of life. Because they can work and live

601
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:37,763
in the same community. And so, that is what our

602
00:43:37,763 --> 00:43:42,340
organization strives to do. And just so everybody

603
00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:43,569
understands from primary employment.

604
00:43:43,569 --> 00:43:48,641
Those are jobs that create something and export those, 50%

605
00:43:48,641 --> 00:43:51,511
or more of the goods or services are outside of the

606
00:43:51,511 --> 00:43:53,913
community. And whathey go outside of the

607
00:43:53,913 --> 00:43:57,517
community and come back, they pay Castle Rock residents and

608
00:43:57,517 --> 00:44:02,121
that generates wealth in our community and that's what we

609
00:44:02,121 --> 00:44:07,526
want to do and that's exactly the goals council has given us

610
00:44:07,526 --> 00:44:10,129
for pursuing economic development opportunities.

611
00:44:10,129 --> 00:44:14,929
they're number one. They're drivers of the economy.

612
00:44:15,334 --> 00:44:19,204
Number two, they create jobs for Castle Rock residents.

613
00:44:19,204 --> 00:44:22,608
Three, they improve the quality of life.

614
00:44:22,608 --> 00:44:24,677
Reduce commute time, because it's in our community.

615
00:44:24,677 --> 00:44:28,948
It allows us to be that unique, stand-alone community that we

616
00:44:28,948 --> 00:44:32,218
have strived to be. And it allows our community

617
00:44:32,218 --> 00:44:35,154
members and folks working there to be participants in their

618
00:44:35,154 --> 00:44:37,557
community. If they don't have to commute

619
00:44:37,557 --> 00:44:40,959
up and down the corridor, they can then be involved in

620
00:44:40,959 --> 00:44:43,959
after-school programs of all sorts.

621
00:44:44,563 --> 00:44:47,100
Sports and getting engaged with our community in many different

622
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,770
aspects. we think it's a great quality

623
00:44:50,770 --> 00:44:53,390
of life to have jobs here in Castle Rock.

624
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:56,975
As you know, we're a younger community.

625
00:44:56,975 --> 00:44:59,712
So, our office space is limited.

626
00:44:59,712 --> 00:45:04,583
And so, while some of the stats are a little dated, the truth

627
00:45:04,583 --> 00:45:10,790
about the stats is not. And that is we produce a very

628
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:14,460
high percentage of the work force commutes to work.

629
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:17,460
That's changed significantly with covid.

630
00:45:18,798 --> 00:45:23,870
And since then we've been more of a remote-work community.

631
00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:26,939
We see lower office per capita because we're a newer

632
00:45:26,939 --> 00:45:30,750
community. We don't have as many office

633
00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:33,412
buildings as other places. one of the risks we run in

634
00:45:33,412 --> 00:45:37,550
Castle Rock is growing companies and growing job

635
00:45:37,550 --> 00:45:40,753
creators don't have room anywhere to move within our

636
00:45:40,753 --> 00:45:44,290
community and have to leave our community to find the office

637
00:45:44,290 --> 00:45:49,690
space that they need. And then a low-percentage of

638
00:45:56,102 --> 00:46:00,302
primary employees. And we have Dawson trails

639
00:46:00,506 --> 00:46:04,706
coming online. We look the primary component.

640
00:46:05,978 --> 00:46:09,848
And that's why this project checks a lot of the boxes

641
00:46:09,848 --> 00:46:15,654
that's we're looking to hit. And so, it's with great pride

642
00:46:15,654 --> 00:46:19,525
that we talk about AlloSource and a potential agreement with

643
00:46:19,525 --> 00:46:22,128
them. I want to talk a little bit

644
00:46:22,128 --> 00:46:25,464
about their project and their history.

645
00:46:25,464 --> 00:46:30,202
Their project is going to add about DAGS they're going to

646
00:46:30,202 --> 00:46:33,672
take about 25,000 square feet here in Castle Rock.

647
00:46:33,672 --> 00:46:36,942
We think that and they're going to sign a seven-year lease as

648
00:46:36,942 --> 00:46:40,746
part of this agreement. It's not an overnight kind of

649
00:46:40,746 --> 00:46:44,946
operation. They're in the health and life

650
00:46:46,285 --> 00:46:49,285
services bio life sciences industry.

651
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:54,893
Phase one is they're going to start by moving some employees

652
00:46:54,893 --> 00:46:58,497
here to Castle Rock. And then they will hire about

653
00:46:58,497 --> 00:47:01,500
75% of their employees from the Castle Rock market.

654
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:03,902
And so, we think that is incredible.

655
00:47:03,902 --> 00:47:09,508
They're going to have to put about $5.5 million into the lab

656
00:47:09,508 --> 00:47:13,379
space that they're going to create here in Castle Rock.

657
00:47:13,379 --> 00:47:19,518
And there's a potential in the first phase for it to be about

658
00:47:19,518 --> 00:47:22,540
300 jobs. And so, we're really excited

659
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:26,191
about that. That will happen over the first

660
00:47:26,191 --> 00:47:31,591
probably three-five years. And then their second phase is

661
00:47:31,597 --> 00:47:35,267
saying we can ramp up to about 300 jobs here in Castle Rock.

662
00:47:35,267 --> 00:47:38,700
So, we're really, really excited about this opportunity.

663
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:42,742
It makes use of a former lab space that we had there before.

664
00:47:42,742 --> 00:47:46,945
And so, we're really excited that these jobs are coming to

665
00:47:46,945 --> 00:47:52,345
Castle Rock. Er the -- the element of the

666
00:47:54,886 --> 00:47:58,758
agreement is a fee component is and the second is a

667
00:47:58,758 --> 00:48:01,159
pay-for-performance, which is outlined in the economic

668
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:04,960
development policies. Which means they have to create

669
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,768
the jobs first before they get any type of payment from the

670
00:48:09,768 --> 00:48:13,505
town and assistance in helping build out their lab space.

671
00:48:13,505 --> 00:48:18,305
These are the general tenants of the agreement.

672
00:48:18,510 --> 00:48:23,849
And we have the opportunity to secure this group.

673
00:48:23,849 --> 00:48:27,986
And I've said this many times before but primary employers

674
00:48:27,986 --> 00:48:31,257
aring a nostic. At the can be anywhere but

675
00:48:31,257 --> 00:48:33,725
choosing to be here. We're really excited about this

676
00:48:33,725 --> 00:48:37,329
opportunity. And we hope you will support

677
00:48:37,329 --> 00:48:40,929
the resolution for thugreement with AlloSource.

678
00:48:42,134 --> 00:48:47,534
We also have AlloSource folks with us here tonight.

679
00:48:48,673 --> 00:48:52,878
Dean Elliott and Cole Lancen. If you have questions for the

680
00:48:52,878 --> 00:48:57,820
applicant themselves. But we couldn't be more excited

681
00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:58,884
to present this opportunity for you guys.

682
00:48:58,884 --> 00:49:03,890
With that, I can answer any question use might have.

683
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:06,689
>> Any questions for Frank or AlloSource.

684
00:49:10,362 --> 00:49:12,300
Bracken >> I know in the past, you've

685
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:17,569
shown the slide that the amount of revenue generated with

686
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:21,194
lunches, dinners, living, walking around Castle Rock.

687
00:49:21,194 --> 00:49:26,867
Do you still have that SNB do you have an updated number on

688
00:49:26,867 --> 00:49:31,871
what the full billed out, 300 people might represent to be

689
00:49:31,871 --> 00:49:34,808
infused within the downtown and around town?

690
00:49:34,808 --> 00:49:37,877
>> So, we don't have exact numbers on all of those.

691
00:49:37,877 --> 00:49:41,130
But what we do have is a multiplier.

692
00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:47,130
And so, usually the multiplier for life sciences company is

693
00:49:47,754 --> 00:49:51,354
probably two-three times their annual revenue.

694
00:49:51,491 --> 00:49:55,950
So, we know each one of the jobs that creates a need for a

695
00:49:55,950 --> 00:50:00,700
piece of a dentist. A piece of the retail business.

696
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:03,436
A piece of. So, each one has an economic

697
00:50:03,436 --> 00:50:07,360
impact. And the full economic impact,

698
00:50:08,175 --> 00:50:12,450
we won't know until we know the jobs and the salaries of each

699
00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:15,649
individual job. But we know the multiplier that

700
00:50:15,649 --> 00:50:19,185
we have on these jobs, that it will be significant.

701
00:50:19,185 --> 00:50:23,856
And new revenue to Castle Rock. >> So, I think what you've

702
00:50:23,856 --> 00:50:28,656
discussed in the past. $100,000 income is 20 grand to

703
00:50:32,131 --> 00:50:35,131
annual downtown area, for example.

704
00:50:35,468 --> 00:50:39,272
I'm trying to look at it from the location and what folks

705
00:50:39,272 --> 00:50:43,343
benefit and get you -- >> Yeah, for the location.

706
00:50:43,343 --> 00:50:46,413
Where they are here in downtown, we would expect they

707
00:50:46,413 --> 00:50:50,160
would have a significant impact on downtown.

708
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,953
That they would have lunch in downtown.

709
00:50:52,953 --> 00:50:55,822
They would draw services to the building in downtown.

710
00:50:55,822 --> 00:50:59,359
We think the economic impact could be significant.

711
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:04,898
We haven't drawn them are the way out to the n-th degree but

712
00:51:04,898 --> 00:51:10,298
we can happily do that for you. >> Thank you.

713
00:51:10,436 --> 00:51:14,307
>> Davis. >> How many years to get to the

714
00:51:14,307 --> 00:51:18,511
full capacity of 300? >> Phase one is five years to

715
00:51:18,511 --> 00:51:22,490
get to about 300 employees. And sorry to get to 100

716
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:26,849
employees. And phase two, would be to get

717
00:51:27,854 --> 00:51:30,456
300 and that's an additional five years after that, plus or

718
00:51:30,456 --> 00:51:33,860
minus. The best part about the way we

719
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:37,197
structure our incentives in Castle Rock is they don't get

720
00:51:37,197 --> 00:51:43,300
anything they don't produce. So, if they do not produce

721
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:49,300
those jobs, we have a not to exceed amount of $300,000.

722
00:51:52,145 --> 00:51:55,745
We know they won't get anything

723
00:51:57,417 --> 00:52:01,170
unless they produce those actual jobs.

724
00:52:01,221 --> 00:52:05,291
>> Thank you, Frank. If someone wishes to speak,

725
00:52:05,291 --> 00:52:09,280
please approach the podium. State whether resident,

726
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,298
nonresident or business owner. Four minutes to speak.

727
00:52:12,298 --> 00:52:15,234
Seeing none, back to Town Council for possible motion or

728
00:52:15,234 --> 00:52:19,434
discussion >> I move to approval as read.

729
00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:24,844
>> And first from Brooks and second from Davis.

730
00:52:24,844 --> 00:52:27,244
And go ahead. Brooks.

731
00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:32,980
>> I'd like to express my support for the resolution.

732
00:52:34,454 --> 00:52:40,260
And just over arching support of the efforts of the Castle

733
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:44,931
Rock and really to have a healthy community.

734
00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:48,401
It's not just about having retail or great places to eat.

735
00:52:48,401 --> 00:52:53,801
It's not just about having Los Canyon, and awesome

736
00:52:54,274 --> 00:52:57,811
recreational spaces. There's a balance there.

737
00:52:57,811 --> 00:53:03,216
And what you're working to do here is to help create a

738
00:53:03,216 --> 00:53:08,616
balance where obviously heavily imbalanced already but gain a

739
00:53:09,356 --> 00:53:12,358
foot hold here in Castle Rock. That's something I feel is very

740
00:53:12,358 --> 00:53:15,829
vital to the town. I would like to applaud your

741
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:20,700
efforts and particularly with this project, I think it could

742
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:23,770
bring fantastic jobs here and we're excited to see this come

743
00:53:23,770 --> 00:53:27,107
to fruition. >> Thank you, I think it's the

744
00:53:27,107 --> 00:53:32,507
balance that allows us to attract employers like that.

745
00:53:33,179 --> 00:53:36,315
I did neglect to mention they will be seeking incentive from

746
00:53:36,315 --> 00:53:41,854
the county as well. So, we're only one portion of

747
00:53:41,854 --> 00:53:43,854
the incentive. >> Great.

748
00:53:45,859 --> 00:53:50,590
Any further comments? Roll call, vote, please.

749
00:53:52,866 --> 00:53:55,866
>> Council member -- [ Roll call]

750
00:54:00,873 --> 00:54:03,873
>> Thank you. Motion passes unanimously.

751
00:54:03,877 --> 00:54:07,130
>> Thank you very much. >> Thank you so much.

752
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:10,750
Moving on to number 11 on the agenda.

753
00:54:10,750 --> 00:54:14,350
Resolution 2026-102. Resolution approving the fourth

754
00:54:15,488 --> 00:54:20,888
amendment to the service plan for Bella Mesa metropolitan

755
00:54:21,494 --> 00:54:25,300
district, authorizing the execution of the first

756
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:27,166
amendment of the intergovernmental agreement by

757
00:54:27,166 --> 00:54:29,301
and between the town of Castle Rock and the district.

758
00:54:29,301 --> 00:54:31,704
>> Thank you. This is a fairly simple

759
00:54:31,704 --> 00:54:35,304
amendment. We're dealing with the Bella

760
00:54:35,775 --> 00:54:39,179
Mesa met rupall itten district. It's been amended three times

761
00:54:39,179 --> 00:54:42,115
previously. We're working on the fourth

762
00:54:42,115 --> 00:54:45,715
amendment. We're looking at a first

763
00:54:47,186 --> 00:54:48,721
amendment to the changes we're going to make.

764
00:54:48,721 --> 00:54:52,392
Next page. If you take a look, this is the

765
00:54:52,392 --> 00:54:55,128
property in -- that is highlighted, which is subjectb

766
00:54:55,128 --> 00:55:00,528
to the service plan. Really, it's that Bella Mesa

767
00:55:02,669 --> 00:55:06,673
neighborhood between founders village and Castle Rock.

768
00:55:06,673 --> 00:55:09,730
Thank you. My clicker.

769
00:55:09,341 --> 00:55:12,545
This is great. You'll notice part of the

770
00:55:12,545 --> 00:55:17,345
district has been built out. I believe approximately 190

771
00:55:17,550 --> 00:55:22,956
single-family homes down there at the bottom of the district

772
00:55:22,956 --> 00:55:27,156
east and south of mesa middle school.

773
00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:30,230
Okay. Well, let's see.

774
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:32,252
There we go. Great.

775
00:55:32,252 --> 00:55:35,521
So, the district itself is located approximately 460

776
00:55:35,521 --> 00:55:38,521
acres. Again, northeast of Michaelson

777
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,600
boulevard, south of state highway 86.

778
00:55:45,331 --> 00:55:49,669
West of Castlewood canyon road and it's within town

779
00:55:49,669 --> 00:55:52,538
boundaries. That's why we're here acting on

780
00:55:52,538 --> 00:55:56,542
the proposed amendment. Governed by the special

781
00:55:56,542 --> 00:56:00,742
district control act. 7.02 of Castle Rock municipal

782
00:56:02,349 --> 00:56:05,949
code. A little bit of background.

783
00:56:06,152 --> 00:56:09,489
A fairly old district. 22 years old.

784
00:56:09,489 --> 00:56:15,295
Originally approved in 2004 under the name this is at rock

785
00:56:15,295 --> 00:56:18,295
canyon. In 2026, a non-material first

786
00:56:20,299 --> 00:56:23,436
amendment, regarding general obligation bonds and the

787
00:56:23,436 --> 00:56:25,838
conditions under which those would issue.

788
00:56:25,838 --> 00:56:29,708
Fast forward 10 years. The name was changed bay the

789
00:56:29,708 --> 00:56:34,508
Douglas county district court to Bella Mesa metropolitan

790
00:56:37,383 --> 00:56:40,983
district. And they allowed to process

791
00:56:43,723 --> 00:56:47,660
an exclusion in their properties and amended in 2020.

792
00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:51,131
It updated financial plan and allowed for the issuance of

793
00:56:51,131 --> 00:56:54,131
debt. Now, the modifications being

794
00:56:56,469 --> 00:56:59,139
proposed here are fairly simple and really operational in

795
00:56:59,139 --> 00:57:01,674
nature. They're really not financial in

796
00:57:01,674 --> 00:57:05,274
nature. Under recent amendments to the

797
00:57:07,613 --> 00:57:13,130
special district control act, they can now provide coveted

798
00:57:15,554 --> 00:57:18,557
enforcement and design review within their boundaries.

799
00:57:18,557 --> 00:57:21,561
That's really the power that district is asking for.

800
00:57:21,561 --> 00:57:25,965
And the reason for that is while the original development

801
00:57:25,965 --> 00:57:31,365
has an HOA, developments proposed for the north and

802
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,710
south end of the site will not have HOAs.

803
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:41,714
So, the district will perform the typical services that an

804
00:57:41,714 --> 00:57:46,514
HOA performs regard to enforcing the covenants of

805
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:50,719
those properties. The next modification, we'll

806
00:57:51,857 --> 00:57:56,796
clarify the ability of the districts to impose fees for

807
00:57:56,796 --> 00:57:59,796
providing operations and maintenance services.

808
00:58:00,733 --> 00:58:05,738
And then the last modification will clarify the district will

809
00:58:05,738 --> 00:58:09,808
not be resolved after the debt is paid off, if it has an

810
00:58:09,808 --> 00:58:12,812
ongoing obligation to provide those type of services under

811
00:58:12,812 --> 00:58:17,750
the service plan and as authorized by the town.

812
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:20,686
I believe that there are representatives of the district

813
00:58:20,686 --> 00:58:23,423
here tonight. I see down in the corner.

814
00:58:23,423 --> 00:58:27,930
Yes, Jennifer's here. In case there's a question

815
00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:31,893
regarding the proposal. But other than that, some

816
00:58:35,234 --> 00:58:38,437
jurisdictional issues. We have jurisdiction over

817
00:58:38,437 --> 00:58:40,973
modifications of a UFSH is ises plan.

818
00:58:40,973 --> 00:58:44,573
That's what we're doing here tonight.

819
00:58:44,643 --> 00:58:48,714
The process is substantially the same, provided -- as

820
00:58:48,714 --> 00:58:50,716
provided for approval of the original plan.

821
00:58:50,716 --> 00:58:55,516
This public hearing. And basically, the plan meets

822
00:58:57,323 --> 00:59:02,528
the requirements and continues to meet requirements set forth

823
00:59:02,528 --> 00:59:06,132
in the special district act and in our oversight code.

824
00:59:06,132 --> 00:59:11,532
We've reviewed that fourth amendment and the service plan

825
00:59:11,737 --> 00:59:15,207
and the first plan to the IGA. We have no objection to the

826
00:59:15,207 --> 00:59:18,207
modification. The district has proposed.

827
00:59:19,211 --> 00:59:23,216
So, without further ado, I'll move to the motion screen and

828
00:59:23,216 --> 00:59:28,888
ask if there are any questions anybody has on council and

829
00:59:28,888 --> 00:59:31,424
certainly our friend in the back, if you want to come

830
00:59:31,424 --> 00:59:34,426
forward in case the council has any questions, probably good

831
00:59:34,426 --> 00:59:37,426
idea. >> Mayor pro tem Cavey.

832
00:59:42,368 --> 00:59:46,239
>> Sounds like the district is acting in an HOA?

833
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:50,976
>> In this regard, it is. And I think, if you could

834
00:59:50,976 --> 00:59:53,376
explain the statutory requirements.

835
00:59:54,460 --> 00:59:56,916
This is something that the legislature has authorized

836
00:59:56,916 --> 01:00:00,516
districts to do. >> Jennifer, general council

837
01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:05,124
for the district. Thank you for the question,

838
01:00:05,124 --> 01:00:10,329
mayor pro tem. As Mr. Highman said, this is

839
01:00:10,329 --> 01:00:13,733
added after the rather old district was formed.

840
01:00:13,733 --> 01:00:18,710
The statute does enable special districs, if listed in the

841
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:23,471
covenant or via an agreement, to enforcement the covenant

842
01:00:25,770 --> 01:00:28,681
inSTI stead of an HOA. This only comes into play when

843
01:00:28,681 --> 01:00:33,419
the only function of the HOA would be not providing services

844
01:00:33,419 --> 01:00:38,358
but enforcing covenants. We see more active HOAs when

845
01:00:38,358 --> 01:00:41,294
they own a clubhouse or improvements and those types

846
01:00:41,294 --> 01:00:44,830
would still exist. This is really limited to

847
01:00:44,830 --> 01:00:49,300
design review services and enforcement of covenants,

848
01:00:49,302 --> 01:00:53,502
rather than taking on active HOA functions.

849
01:00:53,773 --> 01:00:58,310
the existing portion of the district still has an HOA.

850
01:00:58,310 --> 01:01:01,981
That would stay in existence. This is really only for the new

851
01:01:01,981 --> 01:01:05,317
portion of the development so that if the developer decides

852
01:01:05,317 --> 01:01:09,255
it would be more efficient, instead of two entities, an HOA

853
01:01:09,255 --> 01:01:11,723
and the district, they could limit that just to the

854
01:01:11,723 --> 01:01:15,323
district. >> So, at some point, they

855
01:01:16,662 --> 01:01:19,731
would charge some kind of fee or something to the home owner?

856
01:01:19,731 --> 01:01:23,680
>> Yeah. That's where the fee component

857
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,273
comes in since the district has been formed for quite some time

858
01:01:27,273 --> 01:01:30,209
and has existing residents. We obviously would only want

859
01:01:30,209 --> 01:01:33,780
those people receiving the covenant enforcement services

860
01:01:33,780 --> 01:01:37,160
to pay for it. We wouldn't want to incomber

861
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,351
the existing home owners with the burden.

862
01:01:39,351 --> 01:01:42,971
There would have to be a fee on just that portion of the

863
01:01:42,971 --> 01:01:44,172
district receiving those services.

864
01:01:44,172 --> 01:01:47,172
>> Thank you. >> Any further questions?

865
01:01:50,845 --> 01:01:53,845
Michael or -- >> Thank you.

866
01:01:55,316 --> 01:01:57,852
If someone wishes to speak COMBHB to the podium.

867
01:01:57,852 --> 01:02:01,723
State your name, resident, nonresident, business owner,

868
01:02:01,723 --> 01:02:04,259
you'll have four minutes to speak.

869
01:02:04,259 --> 01:02:06,528
Seeing none, back to Town Council for further discussion

870
01:02:06,528 --> 01:02:11,928
and a possible motion. >> I move to approve resolution

871
01:02:14,135 --> 01:02:17,735
number 2026-102, as introduced by title.

872
01:02:20,408 --> 01:02:23,678
>> First and second. Any further discussion?

873
01:02:23,678 --> 01:02:27,278
Roll call vote, please. [ Roll call]

874
01:02:40,428 --> 01:02:44,628
>> Motion passes unanimously. >> Following three items will

875
01:02:44,966 --> 01:02:48,169
be introduced together but voted on separately.

876
01:02:48,169 --> 01:02:51,769
Number 12, ordinance 2026-031. Ordinance authorizing the

877
01:02:53,307 --> 01:02:57,578
repeal and reenactment of title 9 of the Castle Rock municipal

878
01:02:57,578 --> 01:03:00,448
code and amendment on other related sections.

879
01:03:00,448 --> 01:03:04,480
number 13, ordinance 2026-032, ordinance amending section

880
01:03:09,123 --> 01:03:13,323
9.22.010 of the Castle Rock municipal code prohibiting

881
01:03:13,727 --> 01:03:18,527
retail sale of Cratom products for human consumption.

882
01:03:19,267 --> 01:03:23,467
Number 14, ordinance 2026-033. Ordinance amending title 9 of

883
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,877
the Castle Rock municipal code of the addition of a new

884
01:03:29,877 --> 01:03:33,477
section, 9.09.050 requiring corporate inties to report

885
01:03:34,615 --> 01:03:36,615
theft. Public comment.

886
01:03:38,419 --> 01:03:42,890
>> We had that last week when we discussed the item.

887
01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:44,425
Essentially similar presentation I'll go through

888
01:03:44,425 --> 01:03:48,229
for the benefit of the public. Really what we're looking at is

889
01:03:48,229 --> 01:03:53,434
the primary ordinance we're considering tonight is a whole

890
01:03:53,434 --> 01:03:56,170
sale amendment to our title nine of the Castle Rock

891
01:03:56,170 --> 01:04:00,370
municipal code. And it's really our criminal

892
01:04:06,460 --> 01:04:09,249
code. It's the ordinances that we

893
01:04:09,249 --> 01:04:11,719
prosecute in our municipal court.

894
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:15,255
Just generally, Town Council has this power to adopt

895
01:04:15,255 --> 01:04:18,259
ordinances that are necessary to protect the health, safety

896
01:04:18,259 --> 01:04:22,930
and welfare of the community. And you can date back to 1968,

897
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:29,530
when we first adopted Title 9 for a comprehensive set of laws

898
01:04:32,807 --> 01:04:36,944
to be aDAPTed. If you look today, many of the

899
01:04:36,944 --> 01:04:41,744
provisions are either obsolawsuit -- obsolete or will

900
01:04:48,156 --> 01:04:51,240
require -- that's why we're doing the repeal and react.

901
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,824
Like more modern provisions, like in chapter 9.06 aren't

902
01:04:55,897 --> 01:04:57,832
changing because we just adopted them a couple of years

903
01:04:57,832 --> 01:05:01,836
ago. Some that date back in the '60s

904
01:05:01,836 --> 01:05:06,360
and '70s are undergoing substantial revision.

905
01:05:06,307 --> 01:05:09,307
>> Basically, this is cooperative effort.

906
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,248
We have a group of volunteers from our Castle Rock police

907
01:05:14,248 --> 01:05:17,248
department. They work closely with

908
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:21,789
attorneys in our office on this update.

909
01:05:21,789 --> 01:05:27,461
We brought in our chief prosecutor, as well as the law

910
01:05:27,461 --> 01:05:31,599
firm of Hoffen Parker Wilson to also help assist in the

911
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:35,136
preparation. So, once again, thanks to

912
01:05:35,136 --> 01:05:40,536
everybody who participated and chief, your team was wonderful

913
01:05:40,541 --> 01:05:43,944
and instrumental in getting this done.

914
01:05:43,944 --> 01:05:46,480
Much appreciated. >> So, just some of the

915
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,800
highlights. We're adding a new chapter 9.

916
01:05:50,685 --> 01:05:53,687
This will make it easier. It's a definition section.

917
01:05:53,687 --> 01:05:57,492
we're taking out definitions that may have appeared

918
01:05:57,492 --> 01:05:59,930
internally in some of the code sections.

919
01:05:59,930 --> 01:06:01,895
Trying to make the code a little easier to use for our

920
01:06:01,895 --> 01:06:04,895
officers. We're also defining culpable

921
01:06:05,633 --> 01:06:08,633
mental state. Something our officers

922
01:06:08,969 --> 01:06:12,569
particularly requested. They're clearly defined now.

923
01:06:12,907 --> 01:06:16,778
Whether a criminal violation was done intentionally,

924
01:06:16,778 --> 01:06:19,647
knowingly, whether it was done with extreme recklessness and

925
01:06:19,647 --> 01:06:23,247
indifference. We're also adding a chapter

926
01:06:23,317 --> 01:06:26,917
9.02. This is kind of clarifying your

927
01:06:28,255 --> 01:06:32,927
intent in adopting the code. And authorizing your police

928
01:06:32,927 --> 01:06:35,395
department to enforce this title nine in the municipal

929
01:06:35,395 --> 01:06:37,795
court. Chapter 9.04 was originally

930
01:06:41,869 --> 01:06:44,471
titled offense against public peace.

931
01:06:44,471 --> 01:06:49,871
We're really diving into that section and adopting some

932
01:06:50,210 --> 01:06:53,481
constitutionally-enforceable language for some of the more

933
01:06:53,481 --> 01:06:57,810
basic offenses. This includes assault and

934
01:06:58,553 --> 01:07:00,953
battery, trespassing, and theft.

935
01:07:01,422 --> 01:07:06,822
We're taking action to protect our law enforcement officers

936
01:07:08,290 --> 01:07:14,836
and citizens from someone who fails to obey an order and seek

937
01:07:14,836 --> 01:07:19,574
to disrupt public peace. And we're adding unlawful

938
01:07:19,574 --> 01:07:21,974
interference with educational institution.

939
01:07:23,511 --> 01:07:27,782
This is designed to protect students and teachers in the

940
01:07:27,782 --> 01:07:30,782
classroom. Then to chapter 9.08, offense

941
01:07:31,718 --> 01:07:35,918
against property. We're expanding the crime of

942
01:07:37,925 --> 01:07:41,929
damage to public property to address private property.

943
01:07:41,929 --> 01:07:46,600
That's a notable admission. Don't know why it was out of

944
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:52,000
there but it's in there now. We're adding unauthorized

945
01:07:53,288 --> 01:07:56,892
CONNECTIONs to utility provider and I'm sure Mr. MAURo is happy

946
01:07:56,892 --> 01:07:59,761
about that, being our utility provider.

947
01:07:59,761 --> 01:08:04,900
And then we're creating a new chapter 9.09 and that's

948
01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:07,368
defenses against the administration of public.

949
01:08:07,368 --> 01:08:11,240
This is to clarify existing laws and prohibit false reports

950
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,376
and crimes and emergency. Interference with public safety

951
01:08:15,376 --> 01:08:18,976
personnel. Then we're going to chapter

952
01:08:20,181 --> 01:08:23,781
9.10. This is some of the more

953
01:08:26,988 --> 01:08:31,660
esoteric offenses and some of the things that you can charge,

954
01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:35,730
two people who assist in perpetrating crimes.

955
01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:41,690
So, we're going to add specific offense to responsibility on

956
01:08:41,690 --> 01:08:47,690
parents and guardians for the criminal acts of their minor

957
01:08:47,942 --> 01:08:53,342
chilled -- children. And is we're going to charge

958
01:08:53,815 --> 01:08:56,215
them. And 9.06, noise control.

959
01:09:00,221 --> 01:09:07,495
We've had a fairly recent case. We want to make sure it applies

960
01:09:07,495 --> 01:09:10,631
to the case, unless the legislature changes the results

961
01:09:10,631 --> 01:09:16,310
of that case. So, we may not permit any

962
01:09:17,372 --> 01:09:22,643
for-profit or commercial inty to achieve maximum noise levels

963
01:09:22,643 --> 01:09:27,315
set by state statute. Then a couple of other

964
01:09:27,315 --> 01:09:30,785
highlights. We're going to some other sections of the code.

965
01:09:30,785 --> 01:09:34,985
In particular, general penalty section in chapter 1.08.

966
01:09:36,725 --> 01:09:40,995
What we're doing is codifying the decision of the Colorado

967
01:09:40,995 --> 01:09:45,334
Supreme Court in the case of Enray people verses camp.

968
01:09:45,334 --> 01:09:49,938
So, any penalties imposed by the municipal court, cannot

969
01:09:49,938 --> 01:09:53,942
exceed the maximum penalty imposed by state law, where and

970
01:09:53,942 --> 01:09:58,146
this is very important. Where the municipal ordinance

971
01:09:58,146 --> 01:10:02,346
and state statute prohib that same conduct.

972
01:10:02,617 --> 01:10:07,220
All bets are off if they do not proohib that same conduct.

973
01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:12,930
So, we're going to make sure we takeb the maximum penalty we

974
01:10:12,930 --> 01:10:16,631
can do under state law for offenses charged in municipal

975
01:10:16,631 --> 01:10:24,431
court and impose a maximum jail time up to 364 days, a fine up

976
01:10:24,973 --> 01:10:30,973
to $2,650 as we're allowed to do under the municipal court

977
01:10:35,717 --> 01:10:39,253
statute. We're fixing an omission we had

978
01:10:39,253 --> 01:10:42,591
in the code. This is at the request of our

979
01:10:42,591 --> 01:10:47,129
chief prosecutor. We're going to add a new

980
01:10:47,129 --> 01:10:50,465
section regarding restitution and public service.

981
01:10:50,465 --> 01:10:55,865
So, it has clear authority, when appropriate, to award

982
01:10:57,271 --> 01:11:02,677
resitution and order a person who's convicted of a crime, if

983
01:11:02,677 --> 01:11:06,277
appropriate punishment, to perform public service.

984
01:11:13,822 --> 01:11:19,822
That pretty much takes care of ordinance 2026-031, the title 9

985
01:11:21,563 --> 01:11:24,563
rewrite. Here's the other ordinances

986
01:11:24,633 --> 01:11:30,330
we're looking at tonight. First one, 032, is for the

987
01:11:34,309 --> 01:11:39,109
large corporate retailers. Really to give them the

988
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:46,120
impotent to report the theft of property to our law enforcement

989
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:51,393
agencies within 96 hours of becoming aware of the theft.

990
01:11:51,393 --> 01:11:56,193
So, it also will make it unlawful retailer.

991
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,804
It's really similar in scope to the ordinance that was

992
01:12:02,804 --> 01:12:05,407
considered by our Douglas county board of commissioners

993
01:12:05,407 --> 01:12:09,607
earlier this year. Then 033 is a prohibition

994
01:12:17,351 --> 01:12:20,351
against distribution of Kratom products.

995
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:26,761
This will is have a blanket within the town.

996
01:12:26,761 --> 01:12:31,700
It does expand the action taken by the 2019 Town Council.

997
01:12:31,700 --> 01:12:35,900
To prohibit sales of kratom's to minors.

998
01:12:42,430 --> 01:12:46,848
So, what this really is, is acknowledging more recent

999
01:12:46,848 --> 01:12:51,480
information that's been developed that indicate Kratom

1000
01:12:56,580 --> 01:12:58,590
has significant health and safety risks.

1001
01:12:58,590 --> 01:13:02,264
I wanted to go ahead to this slide, to the chief of police,

1002
01:13:02,264 --> 01:13:05,667
I'm speaking for our friend, chief collier.

1003
01:13:05,667 --> 01:13:08,469
And our office recommended Town Council move forward with the

1004
01:13:08,469 --> 01:13:12,690
adoption. Of the comprehensive updates to

1005
01:13:12,874 --> 01:13:14,874
title 9. That's 031.

1006
01:13:15,877 --> 01:13:22,477
And pursuant to your direction at the last council meting and

1007
01:13:31,426 --> 01:13:35,230
weather it's the corporate reporting of retail theft or

1008
01:13:35,230 --> 01:13:39,901
the ordinance banning retail sales of Kratom and I believe

1009
01:13:39,901 --> 01:13:42,704
we have comments that have been submitted to council along

1010
01:13:42,704 --> 01:13:47,504
those lines. Anything else you want to point

1011
01:13:51,513 --> 01:13:53,180
out? >> No.

1012
01:13:53,180 --> 01:13:59,180
The way you published the agenda, the theft ordinance is

1013
01:14:00,121 --> 01:14:03,537
number 33 and Kra it tom ban is 032.

1014
01:14:03,537 --> 01:14:08,800
>> My apologies. I think I saw an earlier copy.

1015
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:15,149
We're going to reverse them. So, when you look at this, my

1016
01:14:15,149 --> 01:14:17,549
apologies. 32 and 33 are reversed.

1017
01:14:21,210 --> 01:14:24,910
Anyway, we're here now to the proposed motions.

1018
01:14:24,910 --> 01:14:30,691
Happy to answer any questions you might have and certainly I

1019
01:14:31,899 --> 01:14:37,637
think Mr. Corilous and chief -- are available as well.

1020
01:14:37,637 --> 01:14:42,376
>> You showed, at council's request worked with our

1021
01:14:42,376 --> 01:14:47,776
business license. Division and we did send out a

1022
01:14:47,848 --> 01:14:51,185
communication to what we knew were the retailers that sold

1023
01:14:51,185 --> 01:14:55,388
Kratom in the community. I'm not pledging that we got

1024
01:14:55,388 --> 01:14:59,588
everybody. And I sent a communication to

1025
01:15:01,729 --> 01:15:04,729
the center. And retail theft.

1026
01:15:14,141 --> 01:15:19,541
And that's what you did on the two ordinances.

1027
01:15:21,810 --> 01:15:24,681
>> Thank you. Regarding 33, the retail theft.

1028
01:15:28,210 --> 01:15:32,693
Is there any specification -- I know it reads, as large

1029
01:15:32,693 --> 01:15:38,165
retailer, but is there any way of describing what that is?

1030
01:15:38,165 --> 01:15:43,565
Is it by number of employees? Gross annual sales?

1031
01:15:43,837 --> 01:15:48,375
Council, I'm sure we all saw it, saw an email from somebody.

1032
01:15:48,375 --> 01:15:51,245
That is clearly not part of this.

1033
01:15:51,245 --> 01:15:55,649
But yet I still think it raises an overall concern from a

1034
01:15:55,649 --> 01:15:59,520
business community and justifiably so that unless

1035
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,323
perhaps we have those guardrails in there about who

1036
01:16:02,323 --> 01:16:06,593
really qualifies, what is a large retailer, I don't know

1037
01:16:06,593 --> 01:16:10,731
if -- is that something we can put in there or is that

1038
01:16:10,731 --> 01:16:13,660
something that is in there that I missed?

1039
01:16:13,660 --> 01:16:16,871
>> Right now there's really not anything in there,

1040
01:16:16,871 --> 01:16:19,740
councilmember Brooks. It talks about a corporate

1041
01:16:19,740 --> 01:16:23,770
entity. So, if you feel that is

1042
01:16:23,770 --> 01:16:26,947
something that we would want to considerer, we can certainly

1043
01:16:26,947 --> 01:16:30,484
take look at this and bring this back for consideration at

1044
01:16:30,484 --> 01:16:35,884
a later date. We're happy to take look at

1045
01:16:36,957 --> 01:16:39,360
whatever direction you wish to give us in that regard.

1046
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,764
>> For me personally, I think that would give me a level of

1047
01:16:43,764 --> 01:16:46,767
comfort and perhaps give the business community a level of

1048
01:16:46,767 --> 01:16:52,172
comfort to know who's excluded to say exactly who is included

1049
01:16:52,172 --> 01:16:55,843
in what we're going after. It's truly large retailers but

1050
01:16:55,843 --> 01:16:59,460
I think a definition is probably helpful.

1051
01:16:59,460 --> 01:17:02,183
I don't know if anyone else wants to weigh in or not.

1052
01:17:02,183 --> 01:17:06,983
>> I would agree with that. >> Council member Bracken.

1053
01:17:18,532 --> 01:17:22,937
>> So, I spoke with a few officers in the police chief.

1054
01:17:22,937 --> 01:17:28,209
And I think on this issue, they're not really asking for

1055
01:17:28,209 --> 01:17:33,547
action from council to make this change for the reporting.

1056
01:17:33,547 --> 01:17:39,553
So, I'm not sure it's really necessary that we adopt this.

1057
01:17:39,553 --> 01:17:45,553
If we're doing things that department's not asking fo --

1058
01:17:48,628 --> 01:17:54,628
in form of a question. Why if they're not supportive

1059
01:17:56,637 --> 01:17:59,637
of the action? >> Councilmember Brooks?

1060
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,509
>> I think there's a distinction important to draw

1061
01:18:02,509 --> 01:18:04,845
the. The difference between not

1062
01:18:04,845 --> 01:18:06,847
being supportive or not particularly asking for

1063
01:18:06,847 --> 01:18:09,116
something. I think there's a vast

1064
01:18:09,116 --> 01:18:14,388
difference between that. I don't think it's fair to

1065
01:18:14,388 --> 01:18:18,588
classify means they're not supportive of it.

1066
01:18:18,726 --> 01:18:23,664
And at the same time, anything with the police or fire

1067
01:18:23,664 --> 01:18:26,467
generally we set the rules, government, town government

1068
01:18:26,467 --> 01:18:29,403
will set the rules and they execute according to that.

1069
01:18:29,403 --> 01:18:33,300
So, I think they're very helpful.

1070
01:18:33,274 --> 01:18:36,760
Otherwise I don't think the chief of a police would have

1071
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,146
given staff the thumbs up that they're fine moving forward

1072
01:18:39,146 --> 01:18:42,416
with it. As far as how that's enacted

1073
01:18:42,416 --> 01:18:48,823
and pursued, I think some of that, to be perfectly honest

1074
01:18:48,823 --> 01:18:51,910
with you, might be somewhat ceremonial.

1075
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:55,830
I think what it helps to do is not necessarily -- we're not

1076
01:18:55,830 --> 01:18:59,300
necessarily, in my mind, putting a thumb on the police

1077
01:18:59,300 --> 01:19:03,971
force, saying we need to do this, and say if somebody's

1078
01:19:03,971 --> 01:19:07,307
going to walk without a couple grand of goods and services,

1079
01:19:07,307 --> 01:19:10,644
the option is not to wave and say have a nice day, that

1080
01:19:10,644 --> 01:19:15,490
there's a duty to report. I understand there's a duty to

1081
01:19:15,490 --> 01:19:18,786
protect their employees. But if they're stealing from

1082
01:19:18,786 --> 01:19:21,989
large retailer, sometimes in the thousands of dollars,

1083
01:19:21,989 --> 01:19:25,325
they're stealing for thum town of Castle Rock.

1084
01:19:25,325 --> 01:19:27,794
Retail tax is the very life blood of this town.

1085
01:19:27,794 --> 01:19:32,799
I think that having that duty to report in there comes down

1086
01:19:32,799 --> 01:19:36,399
more on the very large retailers.

1087
01:19:37,671 --> 01:19:43,477
Not so much being something that is a difficulty for our

1088
01:19:43,477 --> 01:19:46,413
police officers. erse really more on the

1089
01:19:46,413 --> 01:19:51,213
retailers, in my opinion. >> I would respectfully ask

1090
01:19:56,490 --> 01:20:00,690
chief collier to weigh in on this.

1091
01:20:11,113 --> 01:20:14,713
>> Evening, mayor and members of council.

1092
01:20:15,117 --> 01:20:18,320
Happy to answer any questions you might have.

1093
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:23,525
>> My question is how do you and the department feel about

1094
01:20:23,525 --> 01:20:30,125
this motion for the number 14. That would be for the theft.

1095
01:20:30,866 --> 01:20:34,135
>> We gave this a lot of thought, myself and command

1096
01:20:34,135 --> 01:20:37,135
staff. A little history, maybe.

1097
01:20:37,139 --> 01:20:40,476
Because I don't know the full council dates back as far as

1098
01:20:40,476 --> 01:20:44,212
our discussions have been when it comes to retail theft and

1099
01:20:44,212 --> 01:20:49,612
organized retail crime. And the police chief on January

1100
01:20:51,352 --> 01:20:54,352
3rd, 2012. And January 12, 2012 I healed

1101
01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:59,940
department-wide meeting to discuss our initiatives and

1102
01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:01,430
what we needed to do to move forward.

1103
01:21:01,430 --> 01:21:06,301
One of the items I discussed was organized retail crime and

1104
01:21:06,301 --> 01:21:09,771
the importance of us taking a strong stance against retail

1105
01:21:09,771 --> 01:21:13,442
theft. I fully support the intent of

1106
01:21:13,442 --> 01:21:17,420
the ordinance. We definitely want the

1107
01:21:19,181 --> 01:21:21,583
retailers to report theft to the police department.

1108
01:21:21,583 --> 01:21:25,987
Fully support it. We're in a very unique

1109
01:21:25,987 --> 01:21:29,792
position, as opposed to other law enforcement agencies, in

1110
01:21:29,792 --> 01:21:32,995
that we've been working organized retail crime and

1111
01:21:32,995 --> 01:21:37,466
theft for more than 14 years. We have wonderful partnerships

1112
01:21:37,466 --> 01:21:39,866
with our retailers, collaboration.

1113
01:21:41,690 --> 01:21:45,807
We just held our second retail summit, cohosted by Castle Rock

1114
01:21:45,807 --> 01:21:48,807
police. And the 23rd district

1115
01:21:49,770 --> 01:21:52,677
attorney's office. George Brocker was there.

1116
01:21:53,882 --> 01:21:57,820
Where we talked with retailers again, what are their barriers

1117
01:21:57,820 --> 01:21:59,888
to reporting? And how can we help?

1118
01:21:59,888 --> 01:22:02,691
And we learned a lot. We surveyed them.

1119
01:22:02,691 --> 01:22:09,291
One of the things we learned is this particular issue, across

1120
01:22:10,832 --> 01:22:14,769
the country. Because this isn't spiff took

1121
01:22:14,769 --> 01:22:16,304
Castle Rock or the state of Colorado.

1122
01:22:16,304 --> 01:22:18,173
It's a problem across the country.

1123
01:22:18,173 --> 01:22:21,510
And you're right. There is a problem with

1124
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:24,446
retailers not reporting retail theft.

1125
01:22:24,446 --> 01:22:28,500
There's barriers of what we learned of why this occur cans.

1126
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:33,188
One of them is the fact that when many of the retailers are

1127
01:22:33,188 --> 01:22:36,859
reporting the thefts to their local police departments, the

1128
01:22:36,859 --> 01:22:39,859
local police departments don't respond.

1129
01:22:40,620 --> 01:22:42,798
Or they respond two days later or when they do, they don't

1130
01:22:42,798 --> 01:22:46,998
take action. And the retailers that are

1131
01:22:54,209 --> 01:22:58,546
meeting, made it clear this isn't happening in castle rock.

1132
01:22:58,546 --> 01:23:02,170
We respond and we're fortunate because of the resources Town

1133
01:23:02,170 --> 01:23:06,287
Council has given us, as far as our allotment of officer os.

1134
01:23:06,287 --> 01:23:08,357
Our technology and our training.

1135
01:23:08,357 --> 01:23:13,895
We're able to be very effective and we're able to respond

1136
01:23:13,895 --> 01:23:17,432
quickly and take action and arrest the perpetrators and we

1137
01:23:17,432 --> 01:23:20,903
take them to jail. I mean, that's something that

1138
01:23:20,903 --> 01:23:23,238
we worked with the D.A.'s office on.

1139
01:23:23,238 --> 01:23:29,238
We talk this very seriously. So, it's something, again, that

1140
01:23:29,978 --> 01:23:33,480
we've been working on for 14 years.

1141
01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:36,652
And we've seen great success from it.

1142
01:23:36,652 --> 01:23:41,123
Trust is a big piece of this. The retailers trust us.

1143
01:23:41,123 --> 01:23:43,992
They trust the town. They trust the police

1144
01:23:43,992 --> 01:23:46,995
department. That when they call us, we're

1145
01:23:46,995 --> 01:23:51,660
going to respond and takeb the appropriate action.

1146
01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:56,205
One of the other criticisms and barriers to the retailers not

1147
01:23:56,205 --> 01:23:58,606
calling the local police departments is because when the

1148
01:23:58,606 --> 01:24:02,878
police do respond, when they do, they're not professional at

1149
01:24:02,878 --> 01:24:05,614
times and they just don't know how they're going to react and

1150
01:24:05,614 --> 01:24:10,850
they don't want to put employees an at risk or their

1151
01:24:10,850 --> 01:24:16,850
customers or the community. So, we're on the right track.

1152
01:24:26,835 --> 01:24:33,108
We, again, fully support the intent that what we built over

1153
01:24:33,108 --> 01:24:39,108
the last 14 years is working. And we're just concerned of

1154
01:24:39,447 --> 01:24:42,500
perhaps putting at risk the trust that we've built with the

1155
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:45,454
retailers. We don't want to erode that

1156
01:24:45,454 --> 01:24:48,123
because that's key to any police department and certainly

1157
01:24:48,123 --> 01:24:50,592
ours. It's critical for us.

1158
01:24:50,592 --> 01:24:55,620
Not just with the retailers but the community at large.

1159
01:24:55,620 --> 01:24:59,935
So, again, retail theft is a concern of ours.

1160
01:24:59,935 --> 01:25:04,339
It places the retailers at risk from public safety perspective.

1161
01:25:04,339 --> 01:25:07,142
Places their employees at risk and the community at large at

1162
01:25:07,142 --> 01:25:10,212
risk. That's why it's very much a

1163
01:25:10,212 --> 01:25:15,750
priority of ours. We have, as you know, stood up

1164
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:20,155
on strategic resource center. Which is basically a real-time

1165
01:25:20,155 --> 01:25:23,624
crime center. And we have officers in the

1166
01:25:23,624 --> 01:25:29,564
field specifically trained to respond to and to take action

1167
01:25:29,564 --> 01:25:32,233
on organized retail crime and theft.

1168
01:25:32,233 --> 01:25:35,170
Er whether it's a big box store at that outlets or whatever.

1169
01:25:35,170 --> 01:25:37,706
And we do that on a regular basis.

1170
01:25:37,706 --> 01:25:41,642
And I'm proud to say our officers are very, very good at

1171
01:25:41,642 --> 01:25:44,450
it. They know what they're looking

1172
01:25:44,450 --> 01:25:47,645
for and they've been very effective.

1173
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,726
Obviously we'll take any direction that the Town Council

1174
01:25:57,726 --> 01:26:02,526
give us. We feel it would be sue

1175
01:26:02,864 --> 01:26:07,335
pufferilous with what our council members have to date.

1176
01:26:07,335 --> 01:26:11,873
>> So, is it -- by attacking them, is that your perspective

1177
01:26:11,873 --> 01:26:15,477
that can break the relationship or the intent of it?

1178
01:26:15,477 --> 01:26:21,153
What's the -- I guess, where's the breakdown so maybe we can

1179
01:26:21,153 --> 01:26:24,356
address it in the ordinance in particular?

1180
01:26:24,356 --> 01:26:27,893
>> I think if we're are building a relationship that

1181
01:26:27,893 --> 01:26:35,930
we -- with the retailers and we're telling them you don't do

1182
01:26:36,902 --> 01:26:42,410
x, y, and z, you could be at risk of us charging you with a

1183
01:26:42,410 --> 01:26:45,377
crime, that doesn't necessarily play well the trust

1184
01:26:45,377 --> 01:26:50,177
relationship we've built, because weave addressed it with

1185
01:26:50,983 --> 01:26:55,540
them already and we feel the cooperation is working and

1186
01:26:55,540 --> 01:26:57,523
we're addressing the crime as it's occurring.

1187
01:26:57,523 --> 01:27:01,726
If they're -- if they feel like if they report it and it's over

1188
01:27:01,726 --> 01:27:05,130
96 hours and perhaps we're going to get charged, they may

1189
01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:08,400
not report it. And so, we have success so far

1190
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,300
with them. We would like to continue down

1191
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:17,300
the road that we've been going. >> Anymore questions for jack

1192
01:27:17,276 --> 01:27:21,800
or anybody else? I do have several people signed

1193
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,484
up to speak on item number 13. And I'll move to that.

1194
01:27:25,484 --> 01:27:28,484
Thank you, Jack. >> Thank you.

1195
01:27:28,554 --> 01:27:33,954
>> Number 13, I have several people signed up to speak.

1196
01:27:35,694 --> 01:27:39,294
Susan McVEE. >> Good evening, mayor and

1197
01:28:00,585 --> 01:28:04,589
mayor pro tem, council members. I'm member of Castle Rock and

1198
01:28:04,589 --> 01:28:08,260
toxicologist. I'm speaking to you on Kra it

1199
01:28:08,260 --> 01:28:11,860
tom. It effects one person adversely

1200
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:18,603
may not effect another the same way.

1201
01:28:18,603 --> 01:28:21,874
It comes from the tropical Evergreen tree in the coffee

1202
01:28:21,874 --> 01:28:25,678
family. Made up to southeast Asia whose

1203
01:28:25,678 --> 01:28:28,680
leaves have been used as an herbal supplement in

1204
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,949
traditional medicine. It's not a drug.

1205
01:28:30,949 --> 01:28:36,349
It's not an opiate. It's not a synthetic substance.

1206
01:28:36,956 --> 01:28:42,356
Naturally occurring cratem is a safe, herbal supplement that

1207
01:28:42,962 --> 01:28:48,362
appears as a new Opioid recenter and used for

1208
01:28:48,501 --> 01:28:52,904
depression and anxiety. It contains no opiates but does

1209
01:28:52,904 --> 01:28:55,975
bind the same recenter sites in the brain.

1210
01:28:55,975 --> 01:29:01,113
Chocolate and coffee effect the same recenter thins brain.

1211
01:29:01,113 --> 01:29:06,318
And in large doses it can cause serious side effects.

1212
01:29:06,318 --> 01:29:10,522
I have seen people hospitalized for drinking too much coffee.

1213
01:29:10,522 --> 01:29:15,922
The issue is there's manufacturers making it into a

1214
01:29:16,395 --> 01:29:20,595
synthetic DWRUG. These drugs contain high levels

1215
01:29:22,535 --> 01:29:27,540
of synthetic Kratom, as well as other toxic ingreed YNTZ that

1216
01:29:27,540 --> 01:29:31,410
can lead to physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms

1217
01:29:31,410 --> 01:29:36,210
characteristic of classic Opioids such as opium and

1218
01:29:39,151 --> 01:29:42,751
hydrocodone. There's been a proliferation of

1219
01:29:43,756 --> 01:29:46,559
concentrated oh products sold online.

1220
01:29:46,559 --> 01:29:52,559
The enhanced amount of 7OH is sin thatically derived through

1221
01:29:53,833 --> 01:29:58,330
oxidate chemical conversion through isolates or Kratom

1222
01:29:58,170 --> 01:30:01,170
extracts. given the 708s naturally

1223
01:30:03,376 --> 01:30:07,179
present, direct extraction of 70H from plant material would

1224
01:30:07,179 --> 01:30:11,979
be unfeasible economically. And the company to manufacture

1225
01:30:13,318 --> 01:30:17,560
synthetics to increase the levels and to cause addiction.

1226
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:23,560
On July 1st, 2026, the DEA announced the start of a

1227
01:30:24,263 --> 01:30:29,334
temporary schedule process and to a notice of intent for 7OH.

1228
01:30:29,334 --> 01:30:33,538
Above a proposed specified cash level above three synthetic

1229
01:30:33,538 --> 01:30:36,538
derivatives. Pseudo indoxyl, mgm15 and 16,

1230
01:30:40,879 --> 01:30:44,883
which do not naturally occur in the Kratom plant.

1231
01:30:44,883 --> 01:30:49,555
Even the American Kratom association believes it should

1232
01:30:49,555 --> 01:30:53,759
be regulated and controlled to eliminate the yeahs of

1233
01:30:53,759 --> 01:30:56,895
synthetics and make it only available to adults under

1234
01:30:56,895 --> 01:31:00,499
supervision of their doctors. Under the current look of

1235
01:31:00,499 --> 01:31:03,769
standardization and regulation, foods such as gummies and other

1236
01:31:03,769 --> 01:31:08,107
readily available food that appeal to children, make

1237
01:31:08,107 --> 01:31:10,909
substances easily attainable by children.

1238
01:31:10,909 --> 01:31:16,448
There's no oversight on the amount of synthetic Kra it tom

1239
01:31:16,448 --> 01:31:20,319
or oversight of the side effects of compounds in the

1240
01:31:20,319 --> 01:31:24,519
manufactured substances. It's like making fentanyl laced

1241
01:31:25,591 --> 01:31:29,928
with other compounds legal. As we've seen unregulated use

1242
01:31:29,928 --> 01:31:33,528
of drugs can have serious consequences.

1243
01:31:33,665 --> 01:31:37,865
Products with unknown quantities of Kratom and

1244
01:31:41,206 --> 01:31:46,144
synthetic should not be made readily available for children,

1245
01:31:46,144 --> 01:31:49,800
especially in the form of gummies.

1246
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:55,800
>> Next carol Ann Harlos. >> Hello, I'm here on the exact

1247
01:32:02,561 --> 01:32:05,564
same thing. I'm going to say the exact same

1248
01:32:05,564 --> 01:32:09,301
things. And we do not need morality

1249
01:32:09,301 --> 01:32:12,171
police to protect us from ourselves.

1250
01:32:12,171 --> 01:32:15,440
I was speaking on the same thing about five years ago.

1251
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:20,912
Can I ask you where on the doll the Kratom hurt you?

1252
01:32:20,912 --> 01:32:23,115
In reading the alleged justification, I heard it can

1253
01:32:23,115 --> 01:32:26,118
have similar effects to prescription Opioids.

1254
01:32:26,118 --> 01:32:29,391
The last speaker I think dealt with that well.

1255
01:32:29,391 --> 01:32:32,861
For some that's a feature, not a bug.

1256
01:32:32,861 --> 01:32:36,931
This is to get people off of actual addictions.

1257
01:32:36,931 --> 01:32:40,668
If you want to look at a pain patient and someone who uses

1258
01:32:40,668 --> 01:32:44,206
these types of things with you're looking at that person.

1259
01:32:44,206 --> 01:32:47,742
Or do you actually presume that it should require your

1260
01:32:47,742 --> 01:32:50,742
approval. I need your approval?

1261
01:32:52,547 --> 01:32:57,419
You must be able to be fortunate not to understand the

1262
01:32:57,419 --> 01:33:01,155
sufferers of chronic pain that is not adequately dealt with in

1263
01:33:01,155 --> 01:33:05,694
the traditional system. Oh, but it can be addictive?

1264
01:33:05,694 --> 01:33:08,897
Yes, so? That is your business over our

1265
01:33:08,897 --> 01:33:10,897
bodies. Exactly how?

1266
01:33:11,699 --> 01:33:16,499
Do these turn into marauding, Kratom-invested hoards that

1267
01:33:19,574 --> 01:33:21,977
will be storming downtown Castle Rock.

1268
01:33:21,977 --> 01:33:24,312
I don't think banning is the answer.

1269
01:33:24,312 --> 01:33:27,715
But it's even more ridiculous considering what a private sin

1270
01:33:27,715 --> 01:33:32,515
this is. And if you are so concerned

1271
01:33:35,123 --> 01:33:39,461
about the public morals, when am I going to see your

1272
01:33:39,461 --> 01:33:43,131
proposals to make Castle Rock a dry city coming?

1273
01:33:43,131 --> 01:33:46,735
Alcohol by far is an alleged moral hazard but that would be

1274
01:33:46,735 --> 01:33:51,806
an unpopular decision. It's easy to pick on and niche

1275
01:33:51,806 --> 01:33:55,277
invisible product. You say health and safety but

1276
01:33:55,277 --> 01:33:59,214
isn't that redundant, don't you mean you're concerned about

1277
01:33:59,214 --> 01:34:00,415
health? Where's the safety?

1278
01:34:00,415 --> 01:34:02,484
Unless you're thinking safety in health?

1279
01:34:02,484 --> 01:34:06,154
I think that's a fancy way to get control.

1280
01:34:06,154 --> 01:34:09,558
What about sugar what about caffeine?

1281
01:34:09,558 --> 01:34:12,828
What about McDonald's? More people die from being fat

1282
01:34:12,828 --> 01:34:15,630
and that's just an absolute fact.

1283
01:34:15,630 --> 01:34:17,832
But I don't see you wanting to ban those.

1284
01:34:17,832 --> 01:34:21,102
But maybe I shouldn't give you any ideas.

1285
01:34:21,102 --> 01:34:25,106
You know, I always understood and I used to be the national

1286
01:34:25,106 --> 01:34:27,242
secretary of the libertarian party.

1287
01:34:27,242 --> 01:34:31,446
So, I'm not politically naive. I heard Castle Rock was suppose

1288
01:34:31,446 --> 01:34:36,518
stood be conservative, though now it seems to encompass

1289
01:34:36,518 --> 01:34:41,256
foreign regime changing the, wars and murdering citizens in

1290
01:34:41,256 --> 01:34:43,725
the streets but hopefully we're better than that here.

1291
01:34:43,725 --> 01:34:47,595
But I have to ask is this the proper role of limited

1292
01:34:47,595 --> 01:34:51,795
government? Sitting behind a dias does not

1293
01:34:52,267 --> 01:34:55,671
give you special rights to ban the peaceful choices of

1294
01:34:55,671 --> 01:34:58,940
peaceful people, even if you don't like them.

1295
01:34:58,940 --> 01:35:04,340
As I always end these talks, government is force.

1296
01:35:04,412 --> 01:35:10,412
Be cautious how you wield it. >> Thank you, Carry Ann.

1297
01:35:12,870 --> 01:35:16,287
Wayne harlos. Thank you, mayor, thank you

1298
01:35:24,366 --> 01:35:28,770
Town Council. My son in law was involved in a

1299
01:35:28,770 --> 01:35:33,441
dirt bike accident about ten years ago, maybe 12.

1300
01:35:33,441 --> 01:35:36,845
He broke his foot off. He had 28 surgeries to repair

1301
01:35:36,845 --> 01:35:40,445
it. He was prescribed Opioids to

1302
01:35:41,315 --> 01:35:46,115
keep the pain managed so he could function.

1303
01:35:46,788 --> 01:35:50,988
He became addicted each and every variety.

1304
01:35:52,193 --> 01:35:55,329
Finally they said you can't have anymore Opioids.

1305
01:35:55,329 --> 01:35:59,000
He could not function. He couldn't stand up.

1306
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:06,200
He couldn't function at all. A friend of his turned himn to

1307
01:36:06,340 --> 01:36:09,340
Kratom. That solved his problem.

1308
01:36:09,477 --> 01:36:12,213
He did not get addicted to it but it kept the pain

1309
01:36:12,213 --> 01:36:16,350
manageable. Since then he turned, and my

1310
01:36:16,350 --> 01:36:21,890
wife and me on to Kratom. I have four ruptured disks.

1311
01:36:21,890 --> 01:36:26,361
Two in my neck and two in my back.

1312
01:36:26,361 --> 01:36:29,163
And with stenosis in the two in the back.

1313
01:36:29,163 --> 01:36:33,301
I can't function on Oxycodone and besides that I can't get

1314
01:36:33,301 --> 01:36:36,104
more than four at a time from my doctor.

1315
01:36:36,104 --> 01:36:41,504
So, it doesn't work. Kratom provides me with the

1316
01:36:42,444 --> 01:36:44,779
mechanism to keep the pain manageable so I can function in

1317
01:36:44,779 --> 01:36:48,979
daily life. I find it reprehensible that

1318
01:36:50,785 --> 01:36:56,391
any city or town would try to controll a person's private

1319
01:36:56,391 --> 01:36:58,793
opportunity to make their own choices how they manage their

1320
01:36:58,793 --> 01:37:02,993
pain. My doctor's a big fan of

1321
01:37:06,667 --> 01:37:08,667
Kratom. Big fan.

1322
01:37:09,537 --> 01:37:16,544
And she's been an advocate of our use of it since we started.

1323
01:37:16,544 --> 01:37:23,144
I hope that the Town Council reconsiders supporting a ban on

1324
01:37:25,487 --> 01:37:27,887
cratemer because it gives

1325
01:37:31,359 --> 01:37:34,495
people manage their pain. Or would you rather have people

1326
01:37:34,495 --> 01:37:38,695
on Ambien? Which is much more expensive?

1327
01:37:44,172 --> 01:37:48,776
By the way, a lot came from the farm suitdle industry because

1328
01:37:48,776 --> 01:37:54,776
they don't want competition. So, Kratom was not the natural

1329
01:38:08,863 --> 01:38:11,799
product. I hope you reconsider this very

1330
01:38:11,799 --> 01:38:16,599
strongly. And frankly, if any of you have

1331
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:23,210
been a pain patient and the only option you had was

1332
01:38:23,210 --> 01:38:28,483
Opioids, that you were addicted to, what would your plan B be?

1333
01:38:28,483 --> 01:38:33,283
You don't have one. You slushed on Scotch?

1334
01:38:34,355 --> 01:38:36,755
That's fine. What's better?

1335
01:38:37,425 --> 01:38:39,962
I think people should have the personal opportunity to make

1336
01:38:39,962 --> 01:38:45,301
their own choices. And right now, if you consider

1337
01:38:45,301 --> 01:38:47,771
this motion, you can take those choices away from the people of

1338
01:38:47,771 --> 01:38:50,171
Castle Rock. Thank you.

1339
01:38:51,307 --> 01:38:55,507
>> Thank you, Wayne. Next I have Jacob.

1340
01:39:01,451 --> 01:39:05,722
>> Thank you for your time, mayor and council.

1341
01:39:05,722 --> 01:39:09,726
My name is Jacob, a recovered Opioid addict and a full-time

1342
01:39:09,726 --> 01:39:14,130
single dad. And I've livered in Castle Rock

1343
01:39:14,130 --> 01:39:20,700
since 1996 and I are have seen addiction issues take many of

1344
01:39:20,700 --> 01:39:26,700
my friends in Castle Rock from drug and alcohol abuse.

1345
01:39:27,210 --> 01:39:34,150
I'm here to ask for September 11th, nine years ago, I quit

1346
01:39:34,150 --> 01:39:37,554
opiates after my best friend died of an accidental fentanyl

1347
01:39:37,554 --> 01:39:40,690
overdose. After two weeks of being

1348
01:39:40,690 --> 01:39:46,690
miserable, I found cratem, by walking into a Kratom shop.

1349
01:39:48,297 --> 01:39:57,297
And I no longer use Kratom very often but I think it would be a

1350
01:40:02,178 --> 01:40:05,381
grave mistake to the possibility of someone like me

1351
01:40:05,381 --> 01:40:10,530
trying to find an alternative treatment for pain management.

1352
01:40:10,530 --> 01:40:13,653
Kratom isn't the problem. 7HO is.

1353
01:40:14,591 --> 01:40:18,791
>> Thank you, jake. Next Joseph DAEL Franciscan.

1354
01:40:33,676 --> 01:40:37,876
Thank you, mayor. So, excuse my experience.

1355
01:40:41,170 --> 01:40:45,488
I've been a resident of Castle Rock, Colorado for eight years.

1356
01:40:45,488 --> 01:40:50,427
Around eight years. And I have been an occasional

1357
01:40:50,427 --> 01:40:55,227
Kratom user for about three of those years.

1358
01:40:55,631 --> 01:40:58,768
It's a wonderful thing and a wonderful helper of people who

1359
01:40:58,768 --> 01:41:02,372
have pain and people that deal with constant anxiety and

1360
01:41:02,372 --> 01:41:07,172
stress. I don't think it would be a

1361
01:41:08,845 --> 01:41:13,490
thought-through idea to make this ban, especially when

1362
01:41:13,490 --> 01:41:16,252
pharmaceuticals have been known to be way more synthetic than

1363
01:41:16,252 --> 01:41:20,452
something that naturally comes from the ground.

1364
01:41:21,257 --> 01:41:25,862
I incur you to think about the businesses in Castle Rock that

1365
01:41:25,862 --> 01:41:29,599
I've grown accustomed to that give me wonderful customer

1366
01:41:29,599 --> 01:41:32,736
service and great respect because this would also hurt

1367
01:41:32,736 --> 01:41:36,472
those businesses. Thank you for giving me your

1368
01:41:36,472 --> 01:41:41,272
time and that's all I have. Thank you.

1369
01:41:41,810 --> 01:41:46,610
>> Next I have Travis Turner. >> Good evening, council

1370
01:41:58,628 --> 01:42:03,166
members, I'm here behalf of the Kratom association.

1371
01:42:03,166 --> 01:42:05,901
Was it on? It was on?

1372
01:42:05,901 --> 01:42:07,901
>> It was. >> Sorry.

1373
01:42:08,304 --> 01:42:11,774
A consumer advocacy organization that works to

1374
01:42:11,774 --> 01:42:17,174
protect access to safe, natural Kratom-leaf products and to

1375
01:42:17,380 --> 01:42:20,380
advance science-based consumer protection standards.

1376
01:42:21,651 --> 01:42:27,510
The AKA supports and actively works to pass appropriatet

1377
01:42:27,123 --> 01:42:29,191
Kratom-consumer protection regulation at the state,

1378
01:42:29,191 --> 01:42:33,862
federal and local level. We appreciate how difficult it

1379
01:42:33,862 --> 01:42:37,266
is for a city to enforce complex product regulations

1380
01:42:37,266 --> 01:42:41,700
with limited resources. We thank council for one

1381
01:42:41,700 --> 01:42:44,730
notable part of the ordinance. It does not direct penalties at

1382
01:42:44,730 --> 01:42:47,673
consumers. Criminalsing the very people an

1383
01:42:48,611 --> 01:42:51,680
ordinance is meant to protect would be WRAUPG and we thank

1384
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:56,952
you for that. Our concern is it does not

1385
01:42:56,952 --> 01:43:01,152
clearly distinguish between traditional Kratom products and

1386
01:43:02,910 --> 01:43:06,891
those incorrectly classified as Kratom, such as concentrated

1387
01:43:09,966 --> 01:43:12,502
[ Inaudible ] also known as 70h.

1388
01:43:12,502 --> 01:43:17,902
They agree synthetics should be taken off the shelves.

1389
01:43:17,907 --> 01:43:21,577
FDA and DEA draw the line clearly.

1390
01:43:21,577 --> 01:43:26,515
I ask you look at the FDA's website, and the federal

1391
01:43:26,515 --> 01:43:31,530
government has began the scheduling process for 70h.

1392
01:43:31,530 --> 01:43:34,653
They've been clear the actions target

1393
01:43:35,324 --> 01:43:36,859
chemically-concentrateded versions of the compound, not

1394
01:43:36,859 --> 01:43:41,130
the natural leaf. The traditional -- not the

1395
01:43:41,130 --> 01:43:45,401
traditional leaf products. Again, the AKA's mission is to

1396
01:43:45,401 --> 01:43:49,100
protect consumers. Millions of Americans safely

1397
01:43:49,605 --> 01:43:54,405
use traditional Kratom products without issue, often for

1398
01:43:55,478 --> 01:43:59,548
chronic pain conditions. We feel it's imperative Castle

1399
01:43:59,548 --> 01:44:05,548
Rock make the same distinction. Address the soon to be

1400
01:44:06,622 --> 01:44:11,561
scheduled 7oh products quickly. Don't let the Kratom leaf get

1401
01:44:11,561 --> 01:44:16,320
swept up in the ban. The federal government says

1402
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:21,432
natural Kratom leaf should not be scheduled or banned.

1403
01:44:21,504 --> 01:44:26,175
We welcome to meet each council members and discuss support for

1404
01:44:26,175 --> 01:44:27,243
state-wide consumer legislation.

1405
01:44:27,243 --> 01:44:30,243
Thank you. >> Thank you, Travis.

1406
01:44:31,581 --> 01:44:34,581
Next I have misty Brown.

1407
01:46:02,805 --> 01:46:05,205
[ Inaudible ] >> Thank you, misty.

1408
01:48:50,306 --> 01:48:53,242
>> Oh, was I not talking in the microphone?

1409
01:48:53,242 --> 01:48:55,642
>> You're fine. >> Oh, man.

1410
01:48:59,982 --> 01:49:04,182
Next Margy Nunez. >> Good evening, Mayor Jason

1411
01:49:19,135 --> 01:49:22,471
Gray and Town Council. I'm here regarding the retail

1412
01:49:22,471 --> 01:49:27,871
theft ordinance. I wanted to say I agree with

1413
01:49:28,343 --> 01:49:34,943
chief collie and my concern is there's no minimum amount set

1414
01:49:44,930 --> 01:49:48,293
forth in the ordinance for reporting theft.

1415
01:49:48,630 --> 01:49:54,300
And there's, in addition to what councilman Brooks said.

1416
01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:02,311
So, I guess I'm saying not in favor of it.

1417
01:50:02,311 --> 01:50:08,117
So, the other consideration here is that we don't want to

1418
01:50:08,117 --> 01:50:14,717
deter retailers from coming to do business in Castle Rock and

1419
01:50:14,790 --> 01:50:17,926
with something like this on the books, they might look at that

1420
01:50:17,926 --> 01:50:20,796
and say I don't want to be accused of a crime if I don't

1421
01:50:20,796 --> 01:50:24,396
report. Something that might be a $5

1422
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,200
left. So, those are my comments.

1423
01:50:29,671 --> 01:50:35,710
thank you for hearing me out. >> Thank you, Margy.

1424
01:50:35,344 --> 01:50:37,813
I have no one else signed up to speak.

1425
01:50:37,813 --> 01:50:41,817
Anyone who wishes to speak, come to the podium, state your

1426
01:50:41,817 --> 01:50:44,220
name, resident, nonresident, business owner.

1427
01:50:44,220 --> 01:50:47,490
Four minutes to speak. Seeing none, I'll bring it back

1428
01:50:47,490 --> 01:50:49,890
to Town Council. Yes?

1429
01:50:50,559 --> 01:50:53,629
>> Before we motion, it's procedural, so I I guess it

1430
01:50:53,629 --> 01:50:59,629
doesn't mat PRP tell me what's easier, really from staff's

1431
01:51:00,456 --> 01:51:04,326
perspective. Is it, if we were to be in

1432
01:51:04,326 --> 01:51:07,863
agreement to pass the retail theft ordinance, is it easier

1433
01:51:07,863 --> 01:51:13,100
to pass it now, revise it later or would you rather pull it out

1434
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:17,339
to be able to address minimums that have been mentioned, that

1435
01:51:17,339 --> 01:51:22,344
I think are very fair and comments I have on what a large

1436
01:51:22,344 --> 01:51:25,130
retailer is? >> I would recommend you just

1437
01:51:25,130 --> 01:51:27,950
move to continue the ordinance to the next meeting.

1438
01:51:27,950 --> 01:51:33,488
That way that will give us a chance and look at what might

1439
01:51:33,488 --> 01:51:35,824
be appropriate along those lines.

1440
01:51:35,824 --> 01:51:37,824
>> Okay. Thank you.

1441
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:45,429
Yes, please. I can make a motion, yes.

1442
01:51:46,101 --> 01:51:48,703
>> Yeah, please. >> Well, comments or questions?

1443
01:51:48,703 --> 01:51:52,903
Because we haven't made the motion yet.

1444
01:51:53,641 --> 01:51:56,641
>> Comments after the motion. >> Okay.

1445
01:51:58,514 --> 01:52:02,714
>> Yeah. I had seen some nodding heads

1446
01:52:03,652 --> 01:52:06,722
to this earlier. And if not, I suppose I'll get

1447
01:52:06,722 --> 01:52:09,924
some no votes. I would move to continue the

1448
01:52:09,924 --> 01:52:12,794
retail theft piece of this to a future meeting and then we can

1449
01:52:12,794 --> 01:52:16,394
vote on the other pieces. >> Second.

1450
01:52:16,665 --> 01:52:19,665
>> Right. First by councilmember Brooks

1451
01:52:20,535 --> 01:52:25,335
and second by Davis. Roll call vote, please.

1452
01:52:27,476 --> 01:52:29,876
[ Roll call] >> Thank you.

1453
01:52:40,422 --> 01:52:43,422
Motion passes unanimously. >> Thank you.

1454
01:52:54,369 --> 01:53:00,369
>> I move to introduce title 2026-10 -- let's just start

1455
01:53:03,779 --> 01:53:07,379
with 31. I move to approve ordinance

1456
01:53:11,319 --> 01:53:14,589
2026-031 >> A first from Brooks and a

1457
01:53:14,589 --> 01:53:18,993
second from -- >> I I want to be clear,

1458
01:53:18,993 --> 01:53:23,193
2026-031 is the comprehensive update of Title 9?

1459
01:53:25,667 --> 01:53:30,467
>> Any discussion on that? Roll call vote, please.

1460
01:53:31,807 --> 01:53:34,207
[ Roll call] >> Thank you.

1461
01:53:45,753 --> 01:53:50,553
Motion passes unanimously. >> I move to approve 2026-032,

1462
01:53:51,626 --> 01:53:55,497
as introduced by title. >> A first from Brooks and a

1463
01:53:55,497 --> 01:53:59,167
second from Davis. >> And discuss a little bit I

1464
01:53:59,167 --> 01:54:03,967
guess. You know, is there -- is there

1465
01:54:05,107 --> 01:54:11,707
a way to carve out the natural out of the ordinance?

1466
01:54:11,846 --> 01:54:17,252
>> If I may respond to that, the definition of Kratom

1467
01:54:17,252 --> 01:54:23,252
product we're adopting in 031 is identical to that adopted by

1468
01:54:24,659 --> 01:54:31,259
the state in the act I breve our last speaker referred.

1469
01:54:32,334 --> 01:54:37,134
So, the definition basically means any product containing

1470
01:54:39,807 --> 01:54:43,612
the leaf of the plant. The plant contains the

1471
01:54:43,612 --> 01:54:46,612
alkaloid. Boy, I tell you.

1472
01:54:46,615 --> 01:54:51,219
I'm glad I did not major in science and chemistry.

1473
01:54:51,219 --> 01:54:54,219
The alkaloid mitt ruJuneen or

1474
01:55:00,228 --> 01:55:04,428
hydroxeen. And contains the -- so, you

1475
01:55:05,367 --> 01:55:08,367
have distinction in the definition.

1476
01:55:09,170 --> 01:55:13,375
Theoretically we could revise the ordinance to make the

1477
01:55:13,375 --> 01:55:18,180
distinction along the lines of quote unquote natural Kratom,

1478
01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:21,583
which I believe is defined in part A.

1479
01:55:21,583 --> 01:55:25,987
And synthetic, DH is defined in part B.

1480
01:55:25,987 --> 01:55:27,322
So, it could work fairly easily.

1481
01:55:27,322 --> 01:55:30,322
>> Thank you. Any further questions?

1482
01:55:32,127 --> 01:55:38,127
Council member Bracken and >> We did look at this years

1483
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,472
ago with a prier council. Kratom and Kava were reviewed

1484
01:55:43,472 --> 01:55:47,675
at the same time. At the time, there was a

1485
01:55:47,675 --> 01:55:51,480
national push, within each state, for doing a review and

1486
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:56,150
having it become legal. But what we found, at that

1487
01:55:56,150 --> 01:56:02,150
time, was a lot of the providers were bringing in

1488
01:56:02,290 --> 01:56:06,294
popery in bags and processing them as consumable to the

1489
01:56:06,294 --> 01:56:09,894
marketplace. Since then, this product and

1490
01:56:14,903 --> 01:56:17,638
Kratom and KAUFBau have now been regulateded and

1491
01:56:17,638 --> 01:56:21,238
distributed. I voted against having Kratom

1492
01:56:25,313 --> 01:56:31,853
in Castle Rock last time. And now, keeping in spirit with

1493
01:56:31,853 --> 01:56:36,653
supporting business owners and people's ability to function,

1494
01:56:38,393 --> 01:56:43,193
there's a store right over SmashBurger and closing

1495
01:56:43,799 --> 01:56:47,135
somebody's business after the fact I don't think is fair.

1496
01:56:47,135 --> 01:56:51,339
I don't thing it's in the spirit of what we do and how we

1497
01:56:51,339 --> 01:56:53,675
do. And I agree with not some of

1498
01:56:53,675 --> 01:56:57,479
the uses. The reason I opposed in the

1499
01:56:57,479 --> 01:57:01,820
first place is it was unknown and unregulated.

1500
01:57:01,820 --> 01:57:05,554
It seems that we're defining now the natural you.

1501
01:57:05,554 --> 01:57:12,154
For and if we can STRINTH restrict the synthetic, I think

1502
01:57:12,909 --> 01:57:16,180
I would be in support. For that's what I know about

1503
01:57:16,180 --> 01:57:20,250
it, bayed on what I've read. I've read emails, testimony and

1504
01:57:20,250 --> 01:57:26,250
bad stuff too. I think most of the bad stuff

1505
01:57:30,727 --> 01:57:34,665
has come away. I will not be in support of

1506
01:57:34,665 --> 01:57:38,935
banning it but I will be in support of banning the

1507
01:57:38,935 --> 01:57:42,473
synthetic option with safety as the forefront of my vote and

1508
01:57:42,473 --> 01:57:45,943
not hurting businesses. That we voted last time,

1509
01:57:45,943 --> 01:57:50,743
several years ago to allow it. >> Thank you.

1510
01:57:53,417 --> 01:57:59,490
Mayor Pro Tem Laura Cavey >> Can I ask you a question?

1511
01:57:59,490 --> 01:58:05,490
Chief collie? Do we see an issue with this in

1512
01:58:13,504 --> 01:58:16,640
town with children? That's what I'm concerned about

1513
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,840
is minors. >> In speaking with the --

1514
01:58:23,847 --> 01:58:26,116
there's a concern with kids with this.

1515
01:58:26,116 --> 01:58:30,720
For as far as adult population, we haven't seen anything that's

1516
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,590
been problematic as far as anything that we can have data

1517
01:58:34,590 --> 01:58:37,861
to point to. But obviously, when you're

1518
01:58:37,861 --> 01:58:40,997
talking about kids, I think we have to be very careful on what

1519
01:58:40,997 --> 01:58:44,934
they have access to and allowed to consume.

1520
01:58:44,934 --> 01:58:46,869
For >> Thank you.

1521
01:58:46,869 --> 01:58:51,140
Sorry for the out of order. >> Thank you.

1522
01:58:51,140 --> 01:58:58,614
But dave -- Michael and David. >> I want to be clear we did,

1523
01:58:58,614 --> 01:59:02,953
in 2019, ban the sale of Kratom to minors.

1524
01:59:02,953 --> 01:59:09,292
>> And it is banned, it's still banned under the ordinance you

1525
01:59:09,292 --> 01:59:13,163
just introduced. This would just take it further

1526
01:59:13,163 --> 01:59:17,363
to all retail sale. Council member HoLLingshead

1527
01:59:25,308 --> 01:59:29,445
>> I wonder if we can do it in a way to restrict sale to

1528
01:59:29,445 --> 01:59:33,450
minors. The gas station version, verse

1529
01:59:35,184 --> 01:59:39,722
as specialty shop. Can we restrict it to a place

1530
01:59:39,722 --> 01:59:42,459
where it's educated on it and can differentiate between the

1531
01:59:42,459 --> 01:59:45,862
two. I think it might be something

1532
01:59:45,862 --> 01:59:48,262
to consider. >> Councilmember Brooks.

1533
01:59:51,401 --> 01:59:54,204
>> Mr. Mayor, thank you. Couple things.

1534
01:59:54,204 --> 01:59:56,139
Don't dislike the intent of that.

1535
01:59:56,139 --> 02:00:01,539
I think the execution of that is rather sticky.

1536
02:00:02,212 --> 02:00:07,120
The state has already ruled on the 7OH.

1537
02:00:07,351 --> 02:00:12,751
So, us making the distinction between them is unnecessary.

1538
02:00:12,756 --> 02:00:20,230
And in trying to separate this. You know, I'm for the ban of

1539
02:00:20,230 --> 02:00:24,430
it, period. We don't allow marijuana sales.

1540
02:00:26,570 --> 02:00:28,572
Natural leaf marijuana, by the way.

1541
02:00:28,572 --> 02:00:32,109
We don't allow natural leaf marijuana here.

1542
02:00:32,109 --> 02:00:36,112
Why? As a matter of fact, the food

1543
02:00:36,112 --> 02:00:41,512
and drug administration is very, arguably, more kind to

1544
02:00:42,318 --> 02:00:46,518
marijuana than Kratom. They actually restrict the

1545
02:00:48,258 --> 02:00:53,658
import of the leaf. The food and drugged a

1546
02:00:54,197 --> 02:00:57,801
minstration restricts the leaf. They take a harder stance on

1547
02:00:57,801 --> 02:01:01,401
Kratom sales than they do marijuana.

1548
02:01:02,338 --> 02:01:07,477
There are ten states -- I'm not talking about municipalities.

1549
02:01:07,477 --> 02:01:11,280
Parker, monument, that have already out-right banned Kratom

1550
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:14,880
sale said. Ten states ban it.

1551
02:01:16,619 --> 02:01:20,423
At the state level. So, when we're talking about

1552
02:01:20,423 --> 02:01:23,559
this, we're not talking about criminalizing.

1553
02:01:23,559 --> 02:01:26,496
We're not talking about prohibiting use.

1554
02:01:26,496 --> 02:01:31,300
In the same way, we don't allow natural leaf marijuana here in

1555
02:01:31,300 --> 02:01:35,304
Castle Rock. People can still use it.

1556
02:01:35,304 --> 02:01:39,709
They can still take a drive up i-25 and purchase it there, as

1557
02:01:39,709 --> 02:01:42,450
they can do with Kratom products.

1558
02:01:42,450 --> 02:01:46,583
Not prohibiting the use of it. People will still be able to

1559
02:01:46,583 --> 02:01:49,519
get ahold of it. If that's important for them

1560
02:01:49,519 --> 02:01:52,656
and they're on a journey of coming off of opiates and I

1561
02:01:52,656 --> 02:01:57,594
appreciate the stories. At the same time, man gets

1562
02:01:57,594 --> 02:01:59,929
involved with jacking things up all the time.

1563
02:01:59,929 --> 02:02:02,999
There are native cultures that used to chew just on the Coco

1564
02:02:02,999 --> 02:02:06,599
leaf. Until somebody decided to throw

1565
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,408
gasoline on the and all the sudden we have a cartel

1566
02:02:11,408 --> 02:02:16,208
SLINGing it on Miami streets. Opium is natural.

1567
02:02:16,813 --> 02:02:22,819
So, natural does not mean it's good for you through that.

1568
02:02:22,819 --> 02:02:28,691
So, this is a drug. This is an is substance that

1569
02:02:28,691 --> 02:02:32,891
has seen, already, considerable difficulty with it.

1570
02:02:34,364 --> 02:02:40,364
That has included the necessity to engage legislatively at the

1571
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:43,773
state level. There will, I think, continue

1572
02:02:43,773 --> 02:02:47,177
to be issues with this. We have received emails about

1573
02:02:47,177 --> 02:02:51,181
folks that have O.D.'d. As far as the role of

1574
02:02:51,181 --> 02:02:53,583
government, there's a punchline about making sure that we're

1575
02:02:53,583 --> 02:02:57,787
not allowing foreign invasions. Didn't exactly do a good job of

1576
02:02:57,787 --> 02:03:01,791
that several years ago. But also, federal government

1577
02:03:01,791 --> 02:03:07,191
does control commerce. This is an area in regulatory

1578
02:03:07,597 --> 02:03:11,535
nature that is absolutely within the role of government.

1579
02:03:11,535 --> 02:03:14,938
I'm 100% for limited and small government.

1580
02:03:14,938 --> 02:03:18,890
Don't consider this an over reach whatsoever.

1581
02:03:18,890 --> 02:03:22,494
Consider it more in the realm of what we've already done with

1582
02:03:22,494 --> 02:03:26,364
natural leaf marijuana. So, I'll be in favor of the

1583
02:03:26,364 --> 02:03:30,101
outright ban because it's not consistent, in my mind

1584
02:03:30,101 --> 02:03:34,301
whatsoever, this town. As far as businesses.

1585
02:03:37,909 --> 02:03:40,245
Its are arlittle over the top to say it would shutter a

1586
02:03:40,245 --> 02:03:42,847
business. I would be hard pressed to

1587
02:03:42,847 --> 02:03:48,247
think of a business that only, only sells Kratom.

1588
02:03:48,453 --> 02:03:53,725
This is a convenience product. An oh, by the way, let me get

1589
02:03:53,725 --> 02:03:56,460
this at the vape shop. Get somewhere else.

1590
02:03:56,460 --> 02:04:00,397
Every single business I've researched that sells Kratom,

1591
02:04:00,397 --> 02:04:02,933
sells another product. We're not putting anybody out

1592
02:04:02,933 --> 02:04:06,337
of business. I would not support that.

1593
02:04:06,337 --> 02:04:09,607
I want to be clear that when it comes to protecting businesses

1594
02:04:09,607 --> 02:04:12,743
in town, I'm very sensitive to that.

1595
02:04:12,743 --> 02:04:15,679
However, this is one product they can pull off of their

1596
02:04:15,679 --> 02:04:18,816
shelves and they can continue to sell the other products that

1597
02:04:18,816 --> 02:04:23,616
they do sell. I'm in favor of this.

1598
02:04:23,754 --> 02:04:27,954
>> Councilmember Dietz. >> I'm of the same persuasion

1599
02:04:31,562 --> 02:04:36,340
as councilmember Brooks. Castle Rock has a lot of things

1600
02:04:36,340 --> 02:04:40,380
that we -- we want to keep it in a different status.

1601
02:04:40,380 --> 02:04:42,640
All these other things are already in place.

1602
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:44,175
There are other places you can get it.

1603
02:04:44,175 --> 02:04:47,311
Place use go. You'll still be able to use it

1604
02:04:47,311 --> 02:04:52,784
in Castle Rock. So, I won't be in favor of the

1605
02:04:52,784 --> 02:04:55,184
ban myself. >> Thank you.

1606
02:04:55,252 --> 02:05:00,652
Any further discussion? >> See, I just feel we already

1607
02:05:01,925 --> 02:05:06,725
decided and the businesses have been selling it.

1608
02:05:07,265 --> 02:05:09,933
And kind of tough to go in reverse.

1609
02:05:09,933 --> 02:05:16,541
I wish the vote would have passed to ban the first go

1610
02:05:16,541 --> 02:05:20,770
around and now I've kind of stated my position.

1611
02:05:20,770 --> 02:05:24,214
So, that's where we're at. But I'm not in favor.

1612
02:05:24,214 --> 02:05:26,614
That's all. >> Further discussion?

1613
02:05:28,619 --> 02:05:32,219
Roll call vote, please. [ Roll call]

1614
02:05:47,839 --> 02:05:50,839
>> Thank you. Motion passes 6-1

1615
02:05:52,643 --> 02:05:56,714
>> Thank you. Moving on to number 15, which

1616
02:05:56,714 --> 02:06:01,514
we will not vote on. It's 15 and 16 together.

1617
02:06:05,590 --> 02:06:09,393
2026-104 in addition to the 2027 budget for it town of

1618
02:06:09,393 --> 02:06:13,593
Castle Rock. Number 16, we will vote on.

1619
02:06:14,599 --> 02:06:18,403
2026-105, introduction of the 2026CRW rates and fees, study

1620
02:06:18,403 --> 02:06:22,300
and additional changes to development fees.

1621
02:06:27,812 --> 02:06:32,884
>> It's my privilege to provide you with an overview of the

1622
02:06:32,884 --> 02:06:38,884
proposed 2027 town budget. Before we get into some of the

1623
02:06:39,423 --> 02:06:44,223
specifics, I want to specifically extend my personal

1624
02:06:44,294 --> 02:06:46,564
appreciation to our budget team.

1625
02:06:46,564 --> 02:06:51,364
A number of them are here this evening.

1626
02:06:51,569 --> 02:06:55,769
Cathy ingle. In addition to that, Melissa

1627
02:07:00,978 --> 02:07:04,915
Everett, in the budget office. Christian and Matt and myself

1628
02:07:04,915 --> 02:07:08,519
make up the budget team, along with all the department HET

1629
02:07:08,519 --> 02:07:12,657
heads that work hard to present the proposed budget.

1630
02:07:12,657 --> 02:07:17,728
Town law provides that town manager shall recommend, on an

1631
02:07:17,728 --> 02:07:21,999
annual basis, a budget. It is my role to propose.

1632
02:07:21,999 --> 02:07:26,870
It is your role to dispose. So, what my goal is, is to make

1633
02:07:26,870 --> 02:07:32,870
sure that you know the major elements of the 2027 budget.

1634
02:07:33,611 --> 02:07:37,148
I appreciate the opportunity to have briefed you here in the

1635
02:07:37,148 --> 02:07:40,748
past few weeks. On this budget.

1636
02:07:42,686 --> 02:07:49,160
We will then plan on first and second readings in October.

1637
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,962
Significantly on October 6, we'll consider the first

1638
02:07:51,962 --> 02:07:54,765
reading of, not only the budget ordinance and the mill levy

1639
02:07:54,765 --> 02:07:58,965
ordinance. And then we also have some

1640
02:07:59,103 --> 02:08:02,640
affiliate budgets for the general improvement district of

1641
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:06,444
downtown development authority in the business improvement

1642
02:08:06,444 --> 02:08:12,250
district for miller's landing. O, we do it concurrent with our

1643
02:08:12,250 --> 02:08:15,850
budget adoption. We'll have the service

1644
02:08:16,454 --> 02:08:18,656
contracts that you all approve as well.

1645
02:08:18,656 --> 02:08:20,992
We usually put those on the consent.

1646
02:08:20,992 --> 02:08:24,262
Calendar. And if you have questions, we

1647
02:08:24,262 --> 02:08:28,466
can have those pulled off. And then the county assessor

1648
02:08:28,466 --> 02:08:33,137
gets us, usually a little bit after Thanksgiving.

1649
02:08:33,137 --> 02:08:37,740
The final assess evaluation. But because property taxes are

1650
02:08:37,740 --> 02:08:39,344
such a small part of the budget, we're able to proceed

1651
02:08:39,344 --> 02:08:44,144
before that. But we do then provide for

1652
02:08:44,415 --> 02:08:47,151
second reading of the mill levy ordinance there on December

1653
02:08:47,151 --> 02:08:51,351
1st. So, that is our budget calendar

1654
02:08:51,823 --> 02:08:59,230
for the rest of the year. The primary role of budgets is

1655
02:09:02,330 --> 02:09:07,171
to reflect town priorities. I've been listening to council

1656
02:09:07,171 --> 02:09:10,374
as to what you believe community's priorities are.

1657
02:09:10,374 --> 02:09:13,577
And it's our role to recommend the appropriate level of

1658
02:09:13,577 --> 02:09:16,380
resources the community provides through taxes and fees

1659
02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:19,917
that respond to those priorities and respond to your

1660
02:09:19,917 --> 02:09:23,721
direction. And that's what we're trying to

1661
02:09:23,721 --> 02:09:27,525
do with 2027 budget. I want to point out we've been

1662
02:09:27,525 --> 02:09:34,000
involved in a lot of outreach in regards to the budget.

1663
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:37,136
We encourage the community to come and learn about our budget

1664
02:09:37,136 --> 02:09:41,207
and all the different priorities that are set out and

1665
02:09:41,207 --> 02:09:45,211
how we use the funds that are intrusted from the community to

1666
02:09:45,211 --> 02:09:48,748
the town. Obviously your open houses, we

1667
02:09:48,748 --> 02:09:52,752
have discussions about the budget as well and we have

1668
02:09:52,752 --> 02:09:58,558
boards and staff members to talk an about town budgeting.

1669
02:09:58,558 --> 02:10:01,494
Significantly, we go beyond what is required by state law

1670
02:10:01,494 --> 02:10:07,494
in regards to a public hearing. We're introducing it tonight.

1671
02:10:08,501 --> 02:10:11,237
We've encouraged public comment throughout the summer in

1672
02:10:11,237 --> 02:10:15,442
regards the budget preparation. We put together a budget and

1673
02:10:15,442 --> 02:10:19,979
brief that tries to explain the budget in a couple of pages.

1674
02:10:19,979 --> 02:10:24,384
and for those that like lifetime evening reading, we

1675
02:10:24,384 --> 02:10:27,653
have, on the town's website, the recommended budget, which

1676
02:10:27,653 --> 02:10:31,853
totals 400 pages. A little bit over that.

1677
02:10:31,991 --> 02:10:37,464
So, we've got the entire budget available for public review and

1678
02:10:37,464 --> 02:10:42,864
scrutiny and we welcome questions in regards to that.

1679
02:10:42,935 --> 02:10:47,340
Going back to the priorities we know that one of the top

1680
02:10:47,340 --> 02:10:50,209
priorities that town council values is public safety or

1681
02:10:50,209 --> 02:10:54,140
police and fire departments. and you see here that we are --

1682
02:10:54,140 --> 02:10:59,414
have been intrusteded with the voter-approved 2A to continue

1683
02:10:59,752 --> 02:11:03,352
that plan. We're fortunate our revenues

1684
02:11:03,489 --> 02:11:07,626
are continuing to allow us to build beyond what we promised

1685
02:11:07,626 --> 02:11:10,763
in the staffing 2A plan for the police and fire department.

1686
02:11:10,763 --> 02:11:15,368
Here you see we're adding a total of five staff persons in

1687
02:11:15,368 --> 02:11:20,440
the police department in 2027. A detective, a dispatcher, an

1688
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:24,244
additional traffic officer and two additional officers.

1689
02:11:24,244 --> 02:11:27,313
Primary deployment is in the realtime crime center.

1690
02:11:27,313 --> 02:11:30,784
But they'll be available for other assignments as well.

1691
02:11:30,784 --> 02:11:35,789
I want to make it very clear the reason why we're continuing

1692
02:11:35,789 --> 02:11:39,526
to be able to put resources on the top priority of public

1693
02:11:39,526 --> 02:11:44,530
safety continues to be the healthy sales tax growth.

1694
02:11:44,530 --> 02:11:48,130
We had double digit increases 2025 over 2024.

1695
02:11:50,537 --> 02:11:53,940
And we continue to enjoy sales tax growth this year.

1696
02:11:53,940 --> 02:11:57,760
Roughly about 5%. Over the numbers that we've

1697
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:00,676
seen year to date. Comparing 2026 to 2025.

1698
02:12:01,481 --> 02:12:04,481
We obviously watch that closely.

1699
02:12:07,220 --> 02:12:10,690
As a quick digression, I have my daughter in town and we took

1700
02:12:10,690 --> 02:12:15,294
a picture of a Costco sign down at Dawson trails.

1701
02:12:15,294 --> 02:12:19,832
We're budgeting to include additional revenue from Costco.

1702
02:12:19,832 --> 02:12:22,234
Which is obviously very important for the community as

1703
02:12:22,234 --> 02:12:25,834
well. And helps us achieve the

1704
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:29,976
staffing levels necessary to protect the community and other

1705
02:12:29,976 --> 02:12:33,576
things as well. There's equipment increases.

1706
02:12:35,915 --> 02:12:40,715
You've heard me talk so favorably about software

1707
02:12:41,454 --> 02:12:44,790
maintenance contracts. I won't go einto that.

1708
02:12:44,790 --> 02:12:47,861
But we continue to see growth in that area as well.

1709
02:12:47,861 --> 02:12:51,598
We have funds set aside for the expansion of our dispatch

1710
02:12:51,598 --> 02:12:55,798
center. We get funds from the existing

1711
02:12:56,200 --> 02:13:00,730
tax that we all pay on our monthly phone bills for 911.

1712
02:13:00,730 --> 02:13:04,100
We get some of that money. But we're going to need spend

1713
02:13:04,100 --> 02:13:07,146
more money from the town in regards to the expansion.

1714
02:13:07,146 --> 02:13:10,149
And we're going to fix the stairs there at the pd head

1715
02:13:10,149 --> 02:13:13,486
quarters. if you've been by, you know

1716
02:13:13,486 --> 02:13:17,157
they're failing. And we have a safety concern

1717
02:13:17,157 --> 02:13:19,492
that we need to fix there as well.

1718
02:13:19,492 --> 02:13:23,290
We've got that in the budget. This next slide includes both

1719
02:13:23,290 --> 02:13:25,429
police and fire department.

1720
02:13:26,966 --> 02:13:30,303
Befofore I go into more depth of the recommendations for fire

1721
02:13:30,303 --> 02:13:33,907
department in 2027. I've been privileged to be with

1722
02:13:33,907 --> 02:13:38,707
the town since 2015. The first budget was for 2016

1723
02:13:39,378 --> 02:13:41,981
that I was involved into create.

1724
02:13:41,981 --> 02:13:46,920
You see the staffing levels and their total budget in 2024.

1725
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:50,323
2026, that's the budget y'all have adopted for this year.

1726
02:13:50,323 --> 02:13:53,593
2027 is the budget staff is recommending for 2027 and

1727
02:13:53,593 --> 02:13:57,130
you'll consider here in the coming weeks.

1728
02:13:57,130 --> 02:13:59,132
You see the growth both in staffing.

1729
02:13:59,132 --> 02:14:01,534
You also see the growth in cost.

1730
02:14:01,534 --> 02:14:05,404
We budget for oneiary. We plan for five.

1731
02:14:05,404 --> 02:14:10,204
So, while we're budgeting for 2027, we're doing multi-year

1732
02:14:11,144 --> 02:14:13,880
plan. You adopt that plan but it's

1733
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:18,551
not a budget until we consider the 2028 budget roughly this

1734
02:14:18,551 --> 02:14:23,951
time next year. And you see that growth in

1735
02:14:24,424 --> 02:14:30,424
staffing and in cost. So, that in the period from

1736
02:14:31,364 --> 02:14:35,568
2016-2026 our public safety department total cost was $24

1737
02:14:35,568 --> 02:14:39,168
million in change in 2016. 26 in 20 TWEKS.

1738
02:14:40,773 --> 02:14:43,376
And it continues to grow as we add staff and as costs

1739
02:14:43,376 --> 02:14:48,776
increase. I know I'm not the only one in

1740
02:14:49,516 --> 02:14:53,787
town that wants more sales tax. But I think I'm the chief

1741
02:14:53,787 --> 02:14:58,570
proponent of it. But that continues to help us

1742
02:14:58,570 --> 02:15:05,257
be able to meet these demands. As promenade has helped us with

1743
02:15:05,664 --> 02:15:09,268
meeting our public safety needs and other sales tax needs over

1744
02:15:09,268 --> 02:15:13,339
the past decade. We're thinking Dawson trails is

1745
02:15:13,339 --> 02:15:18,477
going to have probably a little bit smaller bought similar

1746
02:15:18,477 --> 02:15:22,150
impact in regards to the ability to do the sales tax

1747
02:15:22,150 --> 02:15:27,220
related projects. It's no small task to go from

1748
02:15:27,220 --> 02:15:32,200
spending 24 million in 2016 to what's estimated to be $83

1749
02:15:33,692 --> 02:15:36,692
million in 2031. Point that out.

1750
02:15:41,235 --> 02:15:45,390
Our fire department. Again when the 2A plan was to

1751
02:15:45,390 --> 02:15:49,710
add additional paramedics. To the staff of the fire rescue

1752
02:15:49,710 --> 02:15:53,310
department. That helps us fully staff

1753
02:15:53,513 --> 02:15:56,984
station 136, which you know is currently under construction

1754
02:15:56,984 --> 02:16:02,722
under Castle Oaks drive. It will be opening next summer.

1755
02:16:02,722 --> 02:16:06,590
It also have additional staffing in the fire rescue

1756
02:16:06,590 --> 02:16:08,728
department. A deputy chief or

1757
02:16:08,728 --> 02:16:11,128
administration. Emergency manager position.

1758
02:16:13,534 --> 02:16:17,134
That will be a multi-department position.

1759
02:16:17,405 --> 02:16:24,605
They'll be helping Mark and his staff in Water, Public works in

1760
02:16:24,745 --> 02:16:27,140
regards to emergency management.

1761
02:16:27,140 --> 02:16:32,414
All the other departments impacted not just by fire

1762
02:16:32,686 --> 02:16:37,910
incidents but any number of calamities that might hit the

1763
02:16:37,910 --> 02:16:40,270
community. So, we're excited to have that

1764
02:16:40,270 --> 02:16:44,565
position on board. And we're rounding out the

1765
02:16:44,565 --> 02:16:47,968
necessary training captains and adding another training

1766
02:16:47,968 --> 02:16:51,568
captain. In the fire department, we're

1767
02:16:52,239 --> 02:16:55,776
recommending we add five more positions as well.

1768
02:16:55,776 --> 02:16:58,579
We're updating our wildfire protection plan.

1769
02:16:58,579 --> 02:17:03,490
We have off wear that helps us predict some of the concerns in

1770
02:17:03,490 --> 02:17:07,788
regards to that area. Reclassifications is an H.R.

1771
02:17:07,788 --> 02:17:10,924
term for increasing compensation for certain

1772
02:17:10,924 --> 02:17:13,861
positions and that's what we're doing there as well.

1773
02:17:13,861 --> 02:17:18,465
Gear supplies and vehicles for the positions listed.

1774
02:17:18,465 --> 02:17:24,710
Significantly, the 2027 budget has -- and we've got a pretty

1775
02:17:24,710 --> 02:17:28,209
good estimate because we know what it cost to run a fire

1776
02:17:28,209 --> 02:17:31,780
station from utility standpoint, from a supply

1777
02:17:31,780 --> 02:17:35,282
standpoint as well. And we have funds in the 2027

1778
02:17:35,282 --> 02:17:40,687
budget to help us make sure that we've GA utthe money to

1779
02:17:40,687 --> 02:17:46,870
successfully operate station 1 GIKS when it joins our other

1780
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:48,496
stations in serving the community.

1781
02:17:48,496 --> 02:17:49,497
Probably third quarter next year.

1782
02:17:49,497 --> 02:17:54,368
We'll see. We know we want that up and

1783
02:17:54,368 --> 02:17:58,439
operating as quickly as we can. Moving on to other priorities

1784
02:17:58,439 --> 02:18:00,574
in the budget. Roads.

1785
02:18:00,574 --> 02:18:04,450
We all drive. We're all experts on the

1786
02:18:04,450 --> 02:18:10,450
driving around the community. And we appreciate the fact we

1787
02:18:11,986 --> 02:18:13,721
continue to maintain our streets.

1788
02:18:13,721 --> 02:18:17,525
And you've heard this before is roads don't heal themselves.

1789
02:18:17,525 --> 02:18:22,262
We have to go in and fix them. And we do a lot of preventive

1790
02:18:22,262 --> 02:18:23,930
maintenance to make sure we don't have to rebuild the

1791
02:18:23,930 --> 02:18:27,468
street. Streets are like any other

1792
02:18:27,468 --> 02:18:30,468
structure, susceptible to the elements.

1793
02:18:31,338 --> 02:18:38,110
Freeze THEY in this part of the world and 18.6 million with a

1794
02:18:38,110 --> 02:18:40,214
primary focus in the southern part of town.

1795
02:18:40,214 --> 02:18:45,850
We get economies of scale by targeting certain areas of the

1796
02:18:45,850 --> 02:18:47,955
community and touching streets in that area.

1797
02:18:47,955 --> 02:18:52,960
We're adding one staff person for public works department.

1798
02:18:52,960 --> 02:18:56,497
A traffic signal technician. And if you're going to have one

1799
02:18:56,497 --> 02:19:01,168
of those, you need a bucket TRUK make sure we can get that

1800
02:19:01,168 --> 02:19:03,703
person up to make sure the traffic signals are working all

1801
02:19:03,703 --> 02:19:08,709
the of the time. You all made the one-year pilot

1802
02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:14,181
commitment for link on demand. The funding is included in the

1803
02:19:14,181 --> 02:19:18,518
2027 budget but roughly this time next year that you look at

1804
02:19:18,518 --> 02:19:21,188
full year's data and see whether or not you want to

1805
02:19:21,188 --> 02:19:24,324
continue it. I provided you with the August

1806
02:19:24,324 --> 02:19:28,262
data. The first full month for link

1807
02:19:28,262 --> 02:19:33,620
on demand. Roughly I think 49 DHN mands in

1808
02:19:34,935 --> 02:19:40,935
the Castle Rock area that link on deMANTD mand provided.

1809
02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:45,946
You all will make a decision whether you want to continue or

1810
02:19:45,946 --> 02:19:48,415
not. We'll put that in the budget

1811
02:19:48,415 --> 02:19:51,819
accordingly. One of the other challenges

1812
02:19:51,819 --> 02:19:57,819
that we had inputting the budget together is -- yes,

1813
02:20:00,940 --> 02:20:02,362
mayor >> Mayor Pro Tem Laura Cavey.

1814
02:20:02,362 --> 02:20:04,699
>> Can I ask a quick question on link?

1815
02:20:04,699 --> 02:20:06,699
>> Yes, ma'am. FRFRTS

1816
02:20:07,835 --> 02:20:12,773
>> When the contract comes up next year -- I know you sent a

1817
02:20:12,773 --> 02:20:15,776
report about how many rides we've had.

1818
02:20:15,776 --> 02:20:22,376
Can we just get feedback from the community before we make

1819
02:20:22,383 --> 02:20:30,183
decision I was talking to some folks a that art fest -- at

1820
02:20:38,599 --> 02:20:40,867
the -- and theyhead been using it.

1821
02:20:40,867 --> 02:20:44,538
I wanted to get a feel from the community and not just

1822
02:20:44,538 --> 02:20:46,730
statistics.

1823
02:20:46,730 --> 02:20:49,730
>> That's a very good suggestion.

1824
02:20:49,877 --> 02:20:53,280
One of the suggestions you'll make.

1825
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:58,800
We'll decide is. One the citizen survey again.

1826
02:20:59,619 --> 02:21:04,910
And you may want a section about link on bemand.

1827
02:21:04,910 --> 02:21:08,495
How you've used it, what for, what do you think?

1828
02:21:08,495 --> 02:21:12,299
What other questions you might want to get a scientific survey

1829
02:21:12,299 --> 02:21:16,636
to do that. And we also can't have the

1830
02:21:16,636 --> 02:21:18,839
opportunity to collect anecdotes and other reports as

1831
02:21:18,839 --> 02:21:23,710
well on that. >> I mean it's one thing when

1832
02:21:23,710 --> 02:21:26,379
you see the number of rides but I want to hear from the

1833
02:21:26,379 --> 02:21:31,451
community do they like it? Do they not like it?

1834
02:21:31,451 --> 02:21:34,721
They do they think we're wasting money?

1835
02:21:34,721 --> 02:21:39,521
>> They're good suggestions. You want factual statements and

1836
02:21:41,728 --> 02:21:43,663
statements from citizens beyond the numbers.

1837
02:21:43,663 --> 02:21:46,630
>> Yes, please. Thank you.

1838
02:21:49,900 --> 02:21:53,293
>> So, this is our CIP five-year plan for how we want

1839
02:21:53,293 --> 02:21:56,893
to invest in our transportation network.

1840
02:21:59,990 --> 02:22:04,438
One of the challenges we're having is that, as you know

1841
02:22:04,438 --> 02:22:07,410
growth has slowed down in Castle Rock.

1842
02:22:07,410 --> 02:22:10,444
I'm waiting for the thank you note from a few citizens.

1843
02:22:10,444 --> 02:22:15,782
It has slowed down. Last month we got -- we issued

1844
02:22:15,782 --> 02:22:18,782
three single-family detached building permits.

1845
02:22:20,521 --> 02:22:26,521
So far this month, 15th of September, we've issued two.

1846
02:22:27,995 --> 02:22:32,795
So, cost of money, mortgage and lot availability.

1847
02:22:38,205 --> 02:22:41,805
Just the overall cost of housing.

1848
02:22:41,942 --> 02:22:45,413
When you hear from the home builder's association friends,

1849
02:22:45,413 --> 02:22:49,483
they say it's got something to do with impact fees and system

1850
02:22:49,483 --> 02:22:52,887
development charges. Don't know if that's the case

1851
02:22:52,887 --> 02:22:56,487
but we'll have that discussion again.

1852
02:23:03,764 --> 02:23:09,302
But our revenue slows down. So, we don't have the revenue

1853
02:23:09,302 --> 02:23:12,373
we traditionally would have, for example, for street

1854
02:23:12,373 --> 02:23:16,573
projects. Four years ago, we were doing

1855
02:23:16,710 --> 02:23:20,581
100 building permits per month. We're now doing substantially

1856
02:23:20,581 --> 02:23:23,581
less. We're getting less revenue.

1857
02:23:26,320 --> 02:23:31,120
We're committed, obviously, to finishing the fifth street

1858
02:23:31,592 --> 02:23:35,792
widening project. We have a traffic signal

1859
02:23:37,398 --> 02:23:41,602
improvement where we're going to need spend money for traffic

1860
02:23:41,602 --> 02:23:45,272
signals. We have some for the first

1861
02:23:45,272 --> 02:23:48,872
phase of the widening of wolfensberger.

1862
02:23:51,812 --> 02:23:56,217
We have some for a round about, location to be determined.

1863
02:23:56,217 --> 02:24:01,755
We have funding we have on design for the round about on

1864
02:24:01,755 --> 02:24:04,758
west loop road and crystal valley parkway.

1865
02:24:04,758 --> 02:24:06,760
And we're going to have a board.

1866
02:24:06,760 --> 02:24:10,960
You've seen it. That shows the proposed

1867
02:24:11,832 --> 02:24:13,434
configuration of the round about.

1868
02:24:13,434 --> 02:24:18,171
So, we've got money for that. Some of the outer year

1869
02:24:18,171 --> 02:24:22,242
projects, we're going to have to watch our revenue.

1870
02:24:22,242 --> 02:24:25,512
If it's not there, we're probably not going to be able

1871
02:24:25,512 --> 02:24:29,490
to do the project because we're probably not going to be able

1872
02:24:29,490 --> 02:24:32,386
to move money around to do it. That's a real concern.

1873
02:24:32,386 --> 02:24:36,323
Growth slows down. Impact revenue slows down.

1874
02:24:36,323 --> 02:24:41,128
Our ability to respond to the demand of growth slows down as

1875
02:24:41,128 --> 02:24:44,640
well. Just want to makes that point

1876
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:46,266
clear. I believe in Castle Rock.

1877
02:24:46,266 --> 02:24:49,203
I think we're still going to see some level of growth within

1878
02:24:49,203 --> 02:24:52,739
the community. We also know the community has

1879
02:24:52,739 --> 02:24:55,809
significant concerns in regards to that.

1880
02:24:55,809 --> 02:25:01,882
So, we're trying to reINTAUND to all of those things as well.

1881
02:25:01,882 --> 02:25:05,286
But here you see the recommended five-year CIP for

1882
02:25:05,286 --> 02:25:09,486
transportation. Parks and Recreation is one of

1883
02:25:17,364 --> 02:25:21,635
our top priorities. We're making great progress on

1884
02:25:21,635 --> 02:25:27,635
the sports center. If y'all want a tour, let me

1885
02:25:28,420 --> 02:25:34,420
know, give me specific dates. Ryan peterson is a guide

1886
02:25:35,716 --> 02:25:39,316
excellent. They're project madger can talk

1887
02:25:41,922 --> 02:25:46,722
construction stuff. I was very impress would the

1888
02:25:47,661 --> 02:25:50,661
facility. If there's opportunities you

1889
02:25:54,334 --> 02:25:58,534
want to look at, it's on schedule.

1890
02:25:59,139 --> 02:26:04,478
Way the tell you on schedule, that means ahead of schedule

1891
02:26:04,478 --> 02:26:09,278
but we'll see. One of the significant things

1892
02:26:10,884 --> 02:26:15,222
the parks and recreation department is going to do is

1893
02:26:15,222 --> 02:26:19,930
offer multi-center pass for the community, that community can

1894
02:26:19,930 --> 02:26:24,898
buy a pass for either an individual or family and they

1895
02:26:24,898 --> 02:26:32,980
can use either the rec center, mack or the new sports center

1896
02:26:34,174 --> 02:26:38,779
for each individual one. So, we have a comfort level we

1897
02:26:38,779 --> 02:26:42,979
can do that. That's important because while

1898
02:26:44,184 --> 02:26:45,986
we're paying for the sports center.

1899
02:26:45,986 --> 02:26:50,257
We're going to get impact fee revenue and then our portion of

1900
02:26:50,257 --> 02:26:55,657
the sales tax. And 100% of the logic tax to

1901
02:26:56,730 --> 02:27:01,935
help us retire the certificates of presentation for the sports

1902
02:27:01,935 --> 02:27:06,135
center. It's very similar to the rec

1903
02:27:08,208 --> 02:27:12,145
center. For it's operated with a very

1904
02:27:12,145 --> 02:27:16,683
modest tax subsidy. They get 5.25% of the town's 4%

1905
02:27:16,683 --> 02:27:21,200
sales tax. The rest of the comes from

1906
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:24,200
membership admission fees, tournament fees.

1907
02:27:29,629 --> 02:27:33,367
So, that's how we operate those facilities.

1908
02:27:33,367 --> 02:27:36,170
We never recover the capital costs.

1909
02:27:36,170 --> 02:27:40,774
we make sure it can operate in the small amount of sales tax

1910
02:27:40,774 --> 02:27:44,311
it gets and we add membership fees.

1911
02:27:44,311 --> 02:27:48,649
We're adding five full time for the new sports center.

1912
02:27:48,649 --> 02:27:52,849
We'll have a number of part-time staff.

1913
02:27:53,586 --> 02:27:57,786
And then operate accordingly there as well.

1914
02:27:58,525 --> 02:28:04,750
We are planning funding to do the planning for the connection

1915
02:28:04,750 --> 02:28:10,150
up to the county's open space. That includes trails.

1916
02:28:10,823 --> 02:28:13,760
We've talked about trails in the room.

1917
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:16,290
We're working to make sure that happens.

1918
02:28:16,290 --> 02:28:18,764
We're getting public land dedication.

1919
02:28:18,764 --> 02:28:22,301
We actually have it. We own it at the southern end

1920
02:28:22,301 --> 02:28:27,701
of Dawson trails. we want to plan that property.

1921
02:28:30,777 --> 02:28:34,180
I'm going to ask next meeting we have an executive section

1922
02:28:34,180 --> 02:28:37,383
where we can talk about an ice hockey facility.

1923
02:28:37,383 --> 02:28:41,854
I think we're far enough along we can talk more specifics in

1924
02:28:41,854 --> 02:28:45,591
regards to that at the property there closer to Costco.

1925
02:28:45,591 --> 02:28:51,591
We'll talk about that as well. We're continuing to make

1926
02:28:58,271 --> 02:29:01,140
improvements on Los Cantrell ranch.

1927
02:29:01,140 --> 02:29:06,540
And here are the elevation of the sports center.

1928
02:29:06,546 --> 02:29:08,881
And encourage you all to taken an opportunity.

1929
02:29:08,881 --> 02:29:11,484
Be more than happy to schedule opportunity to get in and give

1930
02:29:11,484 --> 02:29:13,484
a tour. Opening.

1931
02:29:18,424 --> 02:29:21,693
Maybe next year. Not going to talk about water

1932
02:29:21,693 --> 02:29:25,893
because Mark's going to talk about water.

1933
02:29:26,299 --> 02:29:33,499
And you see these -- this is the 50,000 miles up kind of

1934
02:29:36,375 --> 02:29:41,114
view of water and water rates. We won't spend time on that

1935
02:29:41,114 --> 02:29:44,517
because Mark's going to spend a lot more time on it.

1936
02:29:44,517 --> 02:29:46,852
We're adding other staff positions.

1937
02:29:46,852 --> 02:29:50,789
And adding a new fire station and the new sports center.

1938
02:29:50,789 --> 02:29:54,193
We need another senior maintenance technician in the

1939
02:29:54,193 --> 02:29:57,663
facility division. That's mot in the parks

1940
02:29:57,663 --> 02:30:02,463
department budget. In part of the town manager's

1941
02:30:02,535 --> 02:30:05,938
office. We need another computer tech

1942
02:30:05,938 --> 02:30:11,410
in our do-it division. Y'all are very familiar and you

1943
02:30:11,410 --> 02:30:14,413
need to contain your excitement about the fact we're getting a

1944
02:30:14,413 --> 02:30:17,413
new financial software here soon.

1945
02:30:18,283 --> 02:30:21,420
We need a financial systems analyst to help us with that

1946
02:30:21,420 --> 02:30:25,620
project. Want to add another sales tax

1947
02:30:27,426 --> 02:30:30,829
auditor. We have a successful program

1948
02:30:30,829 --> 02:30:34,633
where we work successfully with businesses to recover funds due

1949
02:30:34,633 --> 02:30:40,305
and to make sure everybody has a level playing field as far as

1950
02:30:40,305 --> 02:30:44,643
paying for sales tax. $100 million this year with

1951
02:30:44,643 --> 02:30:48,243
sales tax. $1.6 million for property tax.

1952
02:30:55,321 --> 02:30:58,725
Would I trade property tax for sales snacks sure.

1953
02:30:58,725 --> 02:31:02,995
Do I want to be responsible for the measure where I'm asking

1954
02:31:02,995 --> 02:31:07,195
for more property taxes? Not so much.

1955
02:31:12,538 --> 02:31:15,274
We feel comfortable moving forward on that.

1956
02:31:15,274 --> 02:31:19,412
It's a different pay plan for public safety employees than

1957
02:31:19,412 --> 02:31:23,949
the rest of employees as well. That's all outlined in the

1958
02:31:23,949 --> 02:31:27,549
budget and letter. Health insurance costs.

1959
02:31:37,290 --> 02:31:40,699
15% increase. It's not going to be a 15%

1960
02:31:40,699 --> 02:31:44,360
increase to town and employees. There will be premium

1961
02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:46,972
increases. The rest of the is on the town

1962
02:31:46,972 --> 02:31:51,377
as the employer. But I don't know what to do

1963
02:31:51,377 --> 02:31:56,177
about health care. If you think it's expensive,

1964
02:31:59,851 --> 02:32:05,251
wait it till the federal government makes it free.

1965
02:32:06,659 --> 02:32:09,528
It's a large expense bought necessary benefit.

1966
02:32:09,528 --> 02:32:13,265
It's one of the reasons we continue to attract and retain

1967
02:32:13,265 --> 02:32:16,802
the quality employees we do now.

1968
02:32:16,802 --> 02:32:20,873
So, we'reed like to protect that program and keep our

1969
02:32:20,873 --> 02:32:24,610
health plan healthy. With that, I'm happy to respond

1970
02:32:24,610 --> 02:32:27,413
to questions. You'll have questions on the

1971
02:32:27,413 --> 02:32:30,683
water as well but you can wait for mark on his presentation.

1972
02:32:30,683 --> 02:32:34,753
Happy to respond to that. Be sure and read the

1973
02:32:34,753 --> 02:32:38,757
transmittal letter. Appreciate the work from staff.

1974
02:32:38,757 --> 02:32:42,561
Kristen does a great job of word smithing that transmitling

1975
02:32:42,561 --> 02:32:45,831
letter to give youditional details in regards to the

1976
02:32:45,831 --> 02:32:49,431
budget and there's 400 pages of budget.

1977
02:32:52,571 --> 02:32:55,907
Not quite a million dollar as page but kind of feels like it

1978
02:32:55,907 --> 02:32:59,507
sometimes. It's a very important document.

1979
02:33:00,312 --> 02:33:02,581
Serves as an our Marching orders.

1980
02:33:02,581 --> 02:33:07,586
Once you adopt it, we implement it and that's the direction we

1981
02:33:07,586 --> 02:33:11,457
want to proceed once we know you all have seen the budget

1982
02:33:11,457 --> 02:33:14,727
and spent time asking questions about it.

1983
02:33:14,727 --> 02:33:18,730
The cover of the budget really should be along the themes of

1984
02:33:18,730 --> 02:33:21,600
we don't look for good ideas, just for all the revenue to pay

1985
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:25,300
for them. We've got a lot of great ideas

1986
02:33:25,300 --> 02:33:29,341
on what to spend money on. And y'all have mentioned a

1987
02:33:29,341 --> 02:33:32,745
number of them in briefings. I don't disagree with them but

1988
02:33:32,745 --> 02:33:38,417
this is a packet high and tight and make sure the top priority,

1989
02:33:38,417 --> 02:33:40,752
public safety, is well attended to.

1990
02:33:40,752 --> 02:33:44,690
That's what we've tried to do in this budget.

1991
02:33:44,690 --> 02:33:50,690
Happy to respond to questions >> Since we're not voting on

1992
02:33:50,963 --> 02:33:57,563
this, questions or comments. >> We had quite a bit of public

1993
02:33:58,437 --> 02:34:02,370
out reach involving trails in town.

1994
02:34:02,641 --> 02:34:05,511
I know just what you talked about.

1995
02:34:05,511 --> 02:34:07,913
There's a big long list of wants.

1996
02:34:07,913 --> 02:34:11,470
But we've got to get to the needs first.

1997
02:34:11,470 --> 02:34:17,470
Still, that being said, is there money to deal with

1998
02:34:26,285 --> 02:34:30,223
improvements, not what the public asked for but maybe meet

1999
02:34:30,223 --> 02:34:34,293
halfway to make things better for the bicycle users, single

2000
02:34:34,293 --> 02:34:37,496
trike users in town? >> Thank you for your question.

2001
02:34:37,496 --> 02:34:41,300
I think the answer is yes. We have funding to be able to

2002
02:34:41,300 --> 02:34:43,902
attend to some of the maintenance needs.

2003
02:34:43,902 --> 02:34:47,372
Er there will be a shift in some of the park staff away

2004
02:34:47,372 --> 02:34:52,778
from turf management to being able to work on the trail

2005
02:34:52,778 --> 02:34:55,782
management, including contractors to do rehab

2006
02:34:55,782 --> 02:34:57,984
maintenance of some of the trails you heard described that

2007
02:34:57,984 --> 02:35:00,786
needed attention. Got a commitment from parks

2008
02:35:00,786 --> 02:35:04,570
that they're going to be able to get to that.

2009
02:35:04,570 --> 02:35:07,993
And we're planning, everybody knows where the Mccanta

2010
02:35:07,993 --> 02:35:11,593
development is. In the unincorporated county

2011
02:35:12,865 --> 02:35:16,402
immediately adjacent to valley road, which, in my driving

2012
02:35:16,402 --> 02:35:20,200
experiences. Looks like the town got

2013
02:35:21,407 --> 02:35:25,812
finished work on that. The county has received I think

2014
02:35:25,812 --> 02:35:28,614
approximately 350 acres of open space.

2015
02:35:28,614 --> 02:35:32,418
And they're planning a trail system there that will be

2016
02:35:32,418 --> 02:35:37,218
available for biking, mountain biking included in that.

2017
02:35:37,490 --> 02:35:41,960
And we're involved in that planning and providing a

2018
02:35:41,960 --> 02:35:46,298
connection from Castle Oaks Drive and some of the trails we

2019
02:35:46,298 --> 02:35:51,370
have in regards to that. A connection from that over to

2020
02:35:51,370 --> 02:35:54,970
Mccanta. We're expanding the number of

2021
02:35:58,244 --> 02:36:02,248
mountain biking-type trails within the general community as

2022
02:36:02,248 --> 02:36:05,118
is usual with so many of the things we have to do.

2023
02:36:05,118 --> 02:36:09,322
We have to look for a partner. In this case, the partner is

2024
02:36:09,322 --> 02:36:12,124
Douglas county in regards to their open space.

2025
02:36:12,124 --> 02:36:16,924
I believe we're paying attention to that concern.

2026
02:36:22,468 --> 02:36:25,468
>> Questions or comments from council?

2027
02:36:25,872 --> 02:36:27,940
>> You want public comment on the budge incident.

2028
02:36:27,940 --> 02:36:31,210
>> Sure. I had no intent to speak.

2029
02:36:31,210 --> 02:36:34,947
Please approach the podium and please state your name,

2030
02:36:34,947 --> 02:36:37,283
resident, nonresident, business owner.

2031
02:36:37,283 --> 02:36:41,487
You have four minutes. Seeing none, we'll move on to

2032
02:36:41,487 --> 02:36:44,487
number 16. >> Thank you, mayor and

2033
02:36:48,427 --> 02:36:51,897
council. I do want to make sure this is

2034
02:36:51,897 --> 02:36:54,500
just an introduction of the rates and fees tonight.

2035
02:36:54,500 --> 02:36:57,637
I want to make sure we're on the same page about that.

2036
02:36:57,637 --> 02:37:02,909
We won't be voting on this tonight, I don't think.

2037
02:37:02,909 --> 02:37:08,781
>> I was told we were. >> I think just go ahead and

2038
02:37:08,781 --> 02:37:13,319
have Mark bring back the ordinance, similar to the one

2039
02:37:13,319 --> 02:37:15,388
on the entire budget but that's fine.

2040
02:37:15,388 --> 02:37:19,588
>> Great. First I want to thank Nicole

2041
02:37:23,328 --> 02:37:25,728
busy. She's here tonight.

2042
02:37:26,331 --> 02:37:30,669
As council knows, we do a rates and fees study every year.

2043
02:37:30,669 --> 02:37:34,869
We bring in an outside consultant, nationally

2044
02:37:35,874 --> 02:37:39,745
recognized consultant that is an expert in this area.

2045
02:37:39,745 --> 02:37:42,948
This is not something every water utility does.

2046
02:37:42,948 --> 02:37:47,748
Typically they do these on a five-year basis.

2047
02:37:47,753 --> 02:37:51,824
Castle Rock water does by bed Zion every year and that's

2048
02:37:51,824 --> 02:37:55,961
primarily because we're a cost of service utility and we want

2049
02:37:55,961 --> 02:37:59,632
to make sure rates and fees we're charging are appropriate

2050
02:37:59,632 --> 02:38:02,301
for the cost of the actual service being provided.

2051
02:38:02,301 --> 02:38:06,238
And so, we review that every year and as you know, we bring

2052
02:38:06,238 --> 02:38:09,838
these back to council for consideration.

2053
02:38:11,777 --> 02:38:15,714
There's really two pieces to this that are important.

2054
02:38:15,714 --> 02:38:18,117
Rates and fees for existing customers.

2055
02:38:18,117 --> 02:38:23,522
And then we'll talk about system development fees for new

2056
02:38:23,522 --> 02:38:27,793
development where the concept is that growth pays for growth

2057
02:38:27,793 --> 02:38:31,630
with respect to water. So, just a little bit of quick

2058
02:38:31,630 --> 02:38:35,263
history. I know typically rates don't go

2059
02:38:35,534 --> 02:38:39,338
down but I do want to point out 2022, we did reduce rates that

2060
02:38:39,338 --> 02:38:43,538
year. But this is what we've done

2061
02:38:44,676 --> 02:38:47,613
since 2022 through 2026. And this is what we've done on

2062
02:38:47,613 --> 02:38:51,750
system development fees. And I will point out there's

2063
02:38:51,750 --> 02:38:54,150
pretty big numbers here.

2064
02:38:59,358 --> 02:39:04,496
And there's a reason for that. Renewable water supplies have

2065
02:39:04,496 --> 02:39:10,702
gone up faster than inflation. I was looking at the Colorado

2066
02:39:10,702 --> 02:39:14,907
big Thompson project, and the cost for that water have gone

2067
02:39:14,907 --> 02:39:20,307
up over 700% since 2010. So, very large increases in the

2068
02:39:20,379 --> 02:39:24,983
cost of some of the water. So, some of the things that

2069
02:39:24,983 --> 02:39:29,183
we're considering. As council knows, we're still

2070
02:39:29,722 --> 02:39:33,726
trying to convert to renewable water supply for the community.

2071
02:39:33,726 --> 02:39:36,862
And that's the primary long-term cost we continue to

2072
02:39:36,862 --> 02:39:41,000
face. Some of the big things that are

2073
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:45,137
in that include this wise project that we have to

2074
02:39:45,137 --> 02:39:49,141
eventually provide desalination for to remove salt from the

2075
02:39:49,141 --> 02:39:51,877
water. Our customers might be very

2076
02:39:51,877 --> 02:39:55,214
upset. And several other big projects

2077
02:39:55,214 --> 02:39:58,617
here that we need to continue as part of a long-term water

2078
02:39:58,617 --> 02:40:02,217
supply. From a financial standpoint, we

2079
02:40:03,355 --> 02:40:08,694
do plan this out through 2065. We look at the capital budgets

2080
02:40:08,694 --> 02:40:11,363
out to 2065 and we have financial models for each of

2081
02:40:11,363 --> 02:40:15,967
the separate enterprises. We track storm water, is

2082
02:40:15,967 --> 02:40:19,370
separate from water resources, separate from waste water and

2083
02:40:19,370 --> 02:40:23,237
water. And each one has a financial

2084
02:40:25,263 --> 02:40:30,663
model, modeled through 2065. The idea here, for doing that

2085
02:40:32,200 --> 02:40:35,940
is to try to smooth rate increases so we don't have rate

2086
02:40:35,940 --> 02:40:39,100
shock in any one particular year, especially with respect

2087
02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:43,281
to existing customers and we want to maintain specific

2088
02:40:43,281 --> 02:40:47,481
balances for reserves. And that's catastrophic failure

2089
02:40:49,870 --> 02:40:51,956
reserves, rate revenue stabilization reserves.

2090
02:40:51,956 --> 02:40:55,893
For example in a year where we maybe have more rain than we

2091
02:40:55,893 --> 02:40:59,164
expect and we don't sell enough water.

2092
02:40:59,164 --> 02:41:03,635
We may need stabilize those rates with that reserve.

2093
02:41:03,635 --> 02:41:08,706
And of course, debt is what we're looking at.

2094
02:41:08,706 --> 02:41:14,112
As you know we already have debt and looking at several

2095
02:41:14,112 --> 02:41:18,449
more issuances over the next five to ten years.

2096
02:41:18,449 --> 02:41:21,719
Growth forecast. Obviously we have to forecast

2097
02:41:21,719 --> 02:41:25,190
what we think we're going to have in terms of growth and

2098
02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:29,390
it's really slowed down what corilous said.

2099
02:41:29,660 --> 02:41:34,598
And no different than it rest of the town, that could very

2100
02:41:34,598 --> 02:41:39,804
well impact the speed with which we can build renewable

2101
02:41:39,804 --> 02:41:43,140
PRAUTer projects because those obviously help provide

2102
02:41:43,140 --> 02:41:46,343
economies of scale for us to be able to build those projects

2103
02:41:46,343 --> 02:41:50,543
more quickly. We've assumed an average annual

2104
02:41:51,416 --> 02:41:53,816
growth of 390 residential units.

2105
02:41:55,553 --> 02:42:00,224
And we do have extra territorial areas as well

2106
02:42:00,224 --> 02:42:04,629
and we get additional growth in those areas.

2107
02:42:04,629 --> 02:42:10,168
Outside of what the town sees. And Mccanta is one of the

2108
02:42:10,168 --> 02:42:14,968
areas. And we have to look at water

2109
02:42:15,390 --> 02:42:18,639
supply, verses water demand every year.

2110
02:42:21,178 --> 02:42:27,520
And looking at every year how much water he needs and the

2111
02:42:27,520 --> 02:42:28,920
timing of the water as we continue to grow.

2112
02:42:28,920 --> 02:42:33,124
Things that impacted the costs. Construction costs, water

2113
02:42:33,124 --> 02:42:35,524
costs, renewable water, scarcity.

2114
02:42:37,328 --> 02:42:39,998
Council's well aware of the scarcity issues with Colorado

2115
02:42:39,998 --> 02:42:43,468
river and some of the other rivers we're dealing with.

2116
02:42:43,468 --> 02:42:49,468
That just drives up the cost for renewable water supplies.

2117
02:42:49,874 --> 02:42:54,120
Much faster nan home building costs, I believe.

2118
02:42:54,120 --> 02:43:00,120
And we have many other issues, regulatory and permanent and

2119
02:43:00,484 --> 02:43:03,821
then we have reserves we put in place.

2120
02:43:03,821 --> 02:43:08,493
And these reserves are there. We have an operational reserve,

2121
02:43:08,493 --> 02:43:13,893
a catastrophic failure reserve and a rate revenue reserve.

2122
02:43:14,565 --> 02:43:18,765
And currently throws 1.2% of the total assets.

2123
02:43:21,973 --> 02:43:26,577
Rate structure strategy. There's one thing looking at

2124
02:43:26,577 --> 02:43:29,913
going forward. Our water resources fee is a

2125
02:43:29,913 --> 02:43:33,117
fixed fee. And we've continued to have to

2126
02:43:33,117 --> 02:43:37,522
address that fee every year. We're looking at next year

2127
02:43:37,522 --> 02:43:43,661
taking a look at converting some of that increase to a

2128
02:43:43,661 --> 02:43:48,132
variable rate fee, based on how much people use to try to

2129
02:43:48,132 --> 02:43:52,332
balance that. As you know, variable rates

2130
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:58,743
help us send a conservation message and if our fixed fees

2131
02:43:58,743 --> 02:44:04,882
become too high and variable fees to low, we won't be

2132
02:44:04,882 --> 02:44:06,884
spending the conservation message in a strong enough

2133
02:44:06,884 --> 02:44:09,420
manner. We'll look at that this year

2134
02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:14,820
however, not this year. Five-year C IP, the five-year

2135
02:44:20,497 --> 02:44:23,330
number has come down a little bit.

2136
02:44:23,330 --> 02:44:24,969
The biggest portion of the costs are in the water

2137
02:44:24,969 --> 02:44:28,239
resources fund. That's where you see the really

2138
02:44:28,239 --> 02:44:31,776
big dollars and that's part of the conversion to renewable

2139
02:44:31,776 --> 02:44:35,579
water supply. Projects we're looking at in

2140
02:44:35,579 --> 02:44:40,379
the five-year window and I'll hit mainly on 2027.

2141
02:44:41,786 --> 02:44:44,722
Going to do a big rehab projected down in young

2142
02:44:44,722 --> 02:44:47,722
American. Rehab is really important.

2143
02:44:48,659 --> 02:44:52,397
Sometimes we forget about rehab in replacement of the old

2144
02:44:52,397 --> 02:44:56,597
infrastructure. Er when you have 500 plus lines

2145
02:44:56,800 --> 02:45:02,800
under the roads, you need fix them PAEFSH 50 or 60 years.

2146
02:45:05,543 --> 02:45:11,150
You can see eight million for the water and 1.FRIEFB the

2147
02:45:11,150 --> 02:45:14,685
waste water for the young American project.

2148
02:45:14,685 --> 02:45:18,422
And we're going to continue out master plan projects.

2149
02:45:18,422 --> 02:45:22,694
We're on an it 10-year time frame to replace all our

2150
02:45:22,694 --> 02:45:25,629
control systems. Cybersecurity and all things

2151
02:45:25,629 --> 02:45:30,368
related to that. We're going to be making major

2152
02:45:30,368 --> 02:45:35,573
upgrades to the ray waterman treatment plant for pumping and

2153
02:45:35,573 --> 02:45:37,842
tanks we need to build in the five-year window.

2154
02:45:37,842 --> 02:45:44,442
The water resources side we're going to be finally building a

2155
02:45:44,648 --> 02:45:48,252
pipeline from east plum creek to reservoir.

2156
02:45:48,252 --> 02:45:54,325
The good news is we did get a federal grant of $1.75 million

2157
02:45:54,325 --> 02:45:57,928
to help with that. Looks like we're kn eing to get

2158
02:45:57,928 --> 02:46:02,333
a grant from the state as well. That might be larger than at

2159
02:46:02,333 --> 02:46:05,933
the grant from the federal government.

2160
02:46:07,205 --> 02:46:10,805
Fingers crossed we find out Thursday.

2161
02:46:11,342 --> 02:46:17,215
You can see 27.5 million for 2027 and we started the project

2162
02:46:17,215 --> 02:46:22,150
this year to the tune of about 5 million.

2163
02:46:23,754 --> 02:46:29,754
We've got team budget for this. We have to currently

2164
02:46:30,294 --> 02:46:34,183
contractually rebuild by 2030. And that's a tremendous amount

2165
02:46:34,183 --> 02:46:37,253
of money. The good news is we're looking

2166
02:46:37,253 --> 02:46:41,323
at potentially partnering with aurora water to push that out.

2167
02:46:41,323 --> 02:46:45,661
So, we're actually trying to push the costs out and that is

2168
02:46:45,661 --> 02:46:49,665
becoming a real possibility. But we have to budgetet for it

2169
02:46:49,665 --> 02:46:52,665
until that contract gets revised.

2170
02:46:52,801 --> 02:46:56,472
We have several other large projects to build to make sure

2171
02:46:56,472 --> 02:47:03,672
we can take full advantage of the capacity at the plum creek

2172
02:47:04,130 --> 02:47:08,813
water pureification facility and another raw water pipeline

2173
02:47:09,552 --> 02:47:14,952
from reservoirs at sedalia that have be to upsized.

2174
02:47:15,758 --> 02:47:19,695
I want to make sure council understands we have money for

2175
02:47:19,695 --> 02:47:21,898
the collection system but that will not come from Castle Rock

2176
02:47:21,898 --> 02:47:25,100
water. That money will be from either

2177
02:47:25,100 --> 02:47:29,438
the county or system development fees paid by people

2178
02:47:29,438 --> 02:47:35,111
connecting to the system. And then storm water, we've got

2179
02:47:35,111 --> 02:47:40,716
one major project planned. And it's the seconds of the

2180
02:47:40,716 --> 02:47:45,540
gullch that goes through the county and the town.

2181
02:47:45,540 --> 02:47:52,254
And we're moving that forward. I'm not -- and support as well

2182
02:47:53,996 --> 02:47:58,196
for that project. Major operational cost impacts?

2183
02:47:58,334 --> 02:48:01,934
We're finishing up advanced metering infraSFRUKture.

2184
02:48:04,607 --> 02:48:08,207
We have our wise operating costs.

2185
02:48:09,411 --> 02:48:12,482
We're knowing to take our full subscriptions in the coming

2186
02:48:12,482 --> 02:48:15,482
years. Electricity cost continue to

2187
02:48:18,870 --> 02:48:22,287
rise. The good news is we're not

2188
02:48:22,491 --> 02:48:26,910
asking for any new positions in 2027.

2189
02:48:27,896 --> 02:48:34,496
Would you like, the -- so, these are the proposed rates

2190
02:48:35,370 --> 02:48:38,908
for 2027 and we're also showing what we've got going through

2191
02:48:38,908 --> 02:48:41,908
2031, base on our five-year plan.

2192
02:48:49,385 --> 02:48:51,785
4.82%. Similar to last year.

2193
02:48:53,855 --> 02:48:58,550
4.76, roughly. Fairly close to what we were

2194
02:48:59,600 --> 02:49:03,260
projecting for 2027. And that's what we're budgeting

2195
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:07,536
for this year. And the biggest number is in

2196
02:49:07,536 --> 02:49:10,539
the water resources fee and that's the conversion to

2197
02:49:10,539 --> 02:49:14,739
renewable water. Did want to mention something

2198
02:49:15,100 --> 02:49:20,282
that we would like council to consider for us to take, bring

2199
02:49:20,282 --> 02:49:27,482
forward is a part of the rates and fees and that 400 customers

2200
02:49:36,365 --> 02:49:41,165
that exceed 400 gallons and then 50,000 gallons and up.

2201
02:49:41,370 --> 02:49:44,970
To as much as over 100,000 gallons.

2202
02:49:45,307 --> 02:49:50,312
Now, typical home in Castle Rock uses about 8,000 gallance.

2203
02:49:50,312 --> 02:49:55,718
So, what we want to do is provide additional incentive

2204
02:49:55,718 --> 02:50:00,322
for some of the really large residential users to bring the

2205
02:50:00,322 --> 02:50:05,728
water use down. We want to propose -- if you go

2206
02:50:05,728 --> 02:50:10,528
above 50,000 gallons, instead of a 1083 surcharge, you would

2207
02:50:15,471 --> 02:50:19,710
go to a $20.66 surcharge. Between 50 and 100.

2208
02:50:19,341 --> 02:50:22,941
Er if you're going over, 1 100 --

2209
02:50:32,421 --> 02:50:36,359
per gallon surcharge. We'd like to propose that to

2210
02:50:36,359 --> 02:50:39,161
bring down some of the usage or encourage that.

2211
02:50:39,161 --> 02:50:45,367
The other thing I did want council to know, we're looking

2212
02:50:45,367 --> 02:50:48,771
at that senior discount. What we'd like the bring back

2213
02:50:48,771 --> 02:50:52,307
and we won't have it for this rates and fees study.

2214
02:50:52,307 --> 02:50:56,778
We'd like, instead of a senior discount, more of an

2215
02:50:56,778 --> 02:51:00,916
income-based discount. Because the bottom line is

2216
02:51:00,916 --> 02:51:05,454
we've got other folks very much like seniors on fixed incomes

2217
02:51:05,454 --> 02:51:09,858
that may have income challenges and we feel like that would

2218
02:51:09,858 --> 02:51:13,662
probably be a more appropriate approach than just addressing

2219
02:51:13,662 --> 02:51:17,266
seniors. We're going to bring it back in

2220
02:51:17,266 --> 02:51:23,266
a couple months but it require as little more study.

2221
02:51:26,475 --> 02:51:32,148
This is what an average bill would look like in the winter

2222
02:51:32,148 --> 02:51:36,418
and summer. And shows you the increase that

2223
02:51:36,418 --> 02:51:42,418
we're proposing would look like in the winter and summer.

2224
02:51:47,960 --> 02:51:49,765
And then this is on an annual basis.

2225
02:51:49,765 --> 02:51:53,435
This shows you what the costs look like on an annual basis

2226
02:51:53,435 --> 02:51:58,835
and what the changes are on an annual basis.

2227
02:52:02,778 --> 02:52:06,916
And you can see what we were projecting for 2027 is fairly

2228
02:52:06,916 --> 02:52:12,316
close to what we have come back with recommending.

2229
02:52:13,655 --> 02:52:18,460
This -- always like to show how we compare to other water

2230
02:52:18,460 --> 02:52:22,531
providers around us. We're the green bar and purple

2231
02:52:22,531 --> 02:52:26,268
is some of our competition. I think we continue to be

2232
02:52:26,268 --> 02:52:30,468
fairly competitive with our surrounding water providers,

2233
02:52:32,474 --> 02:52:36,674
respect to existing customer rates and fees.

2234
02:52:39,810 --> 02:52:44,360
Now, I'm going to switch to system development fees.

2235
02:52:44,360 --> 02:52:47,906
These are the things where growth pays for growth.

2236
02:52:47,906 --> 02:52:52,311
And unfortunately, the costs are really going up for

2237
02:52:52,311 --> 02:52:55,911
improvements and additional infrastructure needed to

2238
02:52:56,915 --> 02:53:02,187
support that additional growth and as I said, renewable

2239
02:53:02,187 --> 02:53:03,989
water's not getting any cheaper.

2240
02:53:03,989 --> 02:53:06,591
It's going up very fast in cost.

2241
02:53:06,591 --> 02:53:10,791
So, you can see the proposed fees.

2242
02:53:12,731 --> 02:53:19,700
To be clear, the total, in the cherry creek or plum creek

2243
02:53:19,700 --> 02:53:22,670
basin. That's what the various numbers

2244
02:53:23,800 --> 02:53:26,412
in the bottom refer to and that's based on the storm

2245
02:53:26,412 --> 02:53:30,120
water. There's a reason the cherry

2246
02:53:30,215 --> 02:53:32,350
creek number has gone up so much.

2247
02:53:32,350 --> 02:53:36,550
The amount of development projected has decreased

2248
02:53:37,422 --> 02:53:41,220
significantly. While the cost of improvements

2249
02:53:43,162 --> 02:53:48,562
have not decreases. Those costs are carried over a

2250
02:53:49,568 --> 02:53:53,972
smaller number of equivalents in the cherry creek basin.

2251
02:53:53,972 --> 02:54:01,172
I do want to point out that last year, when we presented

2252
02:54:02,847 --> 02:54:08,719
these, we already knew we were a lit little behind on some of

2253
02:54:08,719 --> 02:54:12,524
our system development fees and we were trying to phase in

2254
02:54:12,524 --> 02:54:15,593
these large increases over a number of years.

2255
02:54:15,593 --> 02:54:21,593
And so, this is what 2027 and 2028, this is generally what

2256
02:54:23,334 --> 02:54:28,734
those looked like in the previous rat proposal in 2025.

2257
02:54:31,760 --> 02:54:37,760
We do see we're going to continue escalating those going

2258
02:54:38,416 --> 02:54:44,155
forward, unless costs go down. I do want to point out -- as I

2259
02:54:44,155 --> 02:54:49,555
said we did introduce these numbers to the economic

2260
02:54:49,627 --> 02:54:53,827
development committee, water subcommittee several weeks ago.

2261
02:54:56,301 --> 02:54:59,838
So, we've done out reach already about these costs.

2262
02:54:59,838 --> 02:55:05,710
And we will be meeting with the head of the metro-Denver HVA to

2263
02:55:05,710 --> 02:55:08,313
talk to him about some of the costs.

2264
02:55:08,313 --> 02:55:12,183
And I know we've had comments from some home builders

2265
02:55:12,183 --> 02:55:17,583
already. I do want to point out that we

2266
02:55:17,589 --> 02:55:22,389
worked very hard on our system development fees.

2267
02:55:22,994 --> 02:55:30,194
As you know several months ago, as we went through 2026 and we

2268
02:55:30,535 --> 02:55:36,740
took time to insure they were acI RLTly reflecting the usage

2269
02:55:36,740 --> 02:55:42,413
by various housing and we DHIEM conclusion it was based ontual

2270
02:55:42,413 --> 02:55:49,130
square footage for the house. What you see is, for smaller

2271
02:55:49,688 --> 02:55:54,559
houses, there's a discount to the system development fees.

2272
02:55:54,559 --> 02:55:59,363
I want to point this out boss this helps us understand where

2273
02:55:59,363 --> 02:56:02,767
we really are with respect to cystdom investment fees.

2274
02:56:02,767 --> 02:56:07,505
The two orange bars near the top are full system development

2275
02:56:07,505 --> 02:56:14,105
fee for us. I want to note, if I go back,

2276
02:56:19,117 --> 02:56:23,317
the average house is around 4500 square feet.

2277
02:56:25,389 --> 02:56:31,389
What that means is they're paying .87% of that full system

2278
02:56:32,330 --> 02:56:35,734
development fee, which drops you down to the next two orange

2279
02:56:35,734 --> 02:56:40,534
bars. Now, there's been a lot of talk

2280
02:56:42,674 --> 02:56:48,740
about astainable housing. And the bottom line is my

2281
02:56:51,416 --> 02:56:56,154
understanding is atonable landing is they're talking more

2282
02:56:56,154 --> 02:57:01,827
about 1400 square feet and that puts us way down in the bottom

2283
02:57:01,827 --> 02:57:07,827
of the chart. If you add a basement to the

2284
02:57:08,990 --> 02:57:13,499
1400 square feet at 2400 square feet, you're just below Arapaho

2285
02:57:13,839 --> 02:57:21,390
county. And if you use the square footage that used in the

2286
02:57:26,118 --> 02:57:30,550
impact study, it puts us just below Parker water.

2287
02:57:30,550 --> 02:57:32,790
The two orange bars, more in the middle.

2288
02:57:32,790 --> 02:57:35,727
All right. So, this is the introduction

2289
02:57:35,727 --> 02:57:39,927
tonight. We'll go to water commission in

2290
02:57:44,336 --> 02:57:47,672
a week or two and then first and second reading in October

2291
02:57:47,672 --> 02:57:51,872
and I'm happy to answer any questions.

2292
02:57:52,210 --> 02:57:54,790
Er >> Mayor Pro Tem Laura Cavey.

2293
02:57:54,790 --> 02:58:00,679
>> I just have to ask who uses 40,000 gallance -- I'm sorry.

2294
02:58:02,420 --> 02:58:06,200
That's insane to me. >> Well --

2295
02:58:07,250 --> 02:58:09,294
>> I don't need somebody's name.

2296
02:58:09,294 --> 02:58:12,431
But what are you doing to use that kind of water?

2297
02:58:12,431 --> 02:58:16,634
>> Unfortunately, most of it is out door use.

2298
02:58:16,634 --> 02:58:20,834
So, irrigation. Again, and that's a great

2299
02:58:21,105 --> 02:58:24,705
question. It's a tremendous amount of

2300
02:58:26,978 --> 02:58:32,978
water when you thing the average home is only using

2301
02:58:33,452 --> 02:58:37,520
about 125,000 gallance for an entire year.

2302
02:58:49,145 --> 02:58:52,682
>> I would agree with you. That's just crazy.

2303
02:58:52,682 --> 02:58:56,190
Anyway, thank you. >> Anymore questions for Mark

2304
02:58:56,190 --> 02:58:58,419
or staff? Seeing none.

2305
02:59:03,226 --> 02:59:06,826
Non-resident speaker signed up. Morgan column.

2306
02:59:24,580 --> 02:59:28,180
Good evening, mayor and council members.

2307
02:59:28,317 --> 02:59:32,455
I'm here tonight on behalf of the home builder's association

2308
02:59:32,455 --> 02:59:36,459
of metro Denver. First of all we recognize

2309
02:59:36,459 --> 02:59:39,728
Castle Rock has significant responsibilities when it comes

2310
02:59:39,728 --> 02:59:43,599
to maintaining reliable and sustainable water supply and

2311
02:59:43,599 --> 02:59:45,668
support responsibility investment in the town's

2312
02:59:45,668 --> 02:59:48,270
future. We're doing is carefully

2313
02:59:48,270 --> 02:59:52,208
consider the proposed increases and water fees, given the

2314
02:59:52,208 --> 02:59:56,812
substantial cost of building a home in Castle Rock today.

2315
02:59:56,812 --> 03:00:01,120
They're paying over $100,000 for a typical single-family

2316
03:00:01,617 --> 03:00:06,355
home and that's a tremendous upfront cost that effects the

2317
03:00:06,355 --> 03:00:09,955
feesent and affordability of new housing.

2318
03:00:15,164 --> 03:00:20,236
And when development fees cost -- become too high, fewer

2319
03:00:20,236 --> 03:00:23,906
projects move forward. That means fewer building

2320
03:00:23,906 --> 03:00:28,511
permits and less permit revenue for the town.

2321
03:00:28,511 --> 03:00:31,447
We're already seeing that trend.

2322
03:00:31,447 --> 03:00:36,247
Castle Rock has processed only 105 residential permits and

2323
03:00:37,586 --> 03:00:42,258
zero in July and August. I think dave mentioned five or

2324
03:00:42,258 --> 03:00:45,258
something. There's a discrepancy there.

2325
03:00:45,928 --> 03:00:50,933
Three years ago the town was averaging nearly 500 permits

2326
03:00:50,933 --> 03:00:53,803
during the same period. That decline should give all of

2327
03:00:53,803 --> 03:00:57,403
us pause. And increasing fees may

2328
03:01:02,211 --> 03:01:05,681
increase revenue on an individual permit but can make

2329
03:01:05,681 --> 03:01:09,281
projects less feasible. Further reduce construction

2330
03:01:09,618 --> 03:01:12,621
activity and reduce the overall revenue generated by the

2331
03:01:12,621 --> 03:01:15,621
permits. We're not asking renewed

2332
03:01:15,692 --> 03:01:19,892
development to avoid paying its fair share.

2333
03:01:20,830 --> 03:01:25,300
We're asking the costs be reasonable, proportional

2334
03:01:28,370 --> 03:01:31,708
against the real balance of activity.

2335
03:01:31,708 --> 03:01:35,911
At a TWHIEM the cost of building is is is already at

2336
03:01:35,911 --> 03:01:39,582
historic levels, we should look for ways to moderate the costs,

2337
03:01:39,582 --> 03:01:45,254
not continue adding to them. We respectfully ask council to

2338
03:01:45,254 --> 03:01:49,570
consider the magnitude of propose under creasess and work

2339
03:01:49,570 --> 03:01:52,328
with the development community on a more balanced approach.

2340
03:01:52,328 --> 03:01:55,197
Thank you for your time this evening.

2341
03:01:55,197 --> 03:01:58,868
>> If someone wishes to speak, come to the podium and state

2342
03:01:58,868 --> 03:02:01,738
your name, whether you're a resident, nonresident, business

2343
03:02:01,738 --> 03:02:04,738
owner. Four minutes to speak.

2344
03:02:04,874 --> 03:02:08,474
Seeing none, back to Town Council.

2345
03:02:12,615 --> 03:02:16,285
I was told yes but we're not. >> Make a quick comment.

2346
03:02:16,285 --> 03:02:19,889
This is something I wanted to address in my council comments

2347
03:02:19,889 --> 03:02:25,940
but I think I was at 20 minutes on those.

2348
03:02:25,940 --> 03:02:29,765
I figured maybe I could seam in it here a little bit.

2349
03:02:29,765 --> 03:02:32,101
When it comes to the budget increases with fire and police,

2350
03:02:32,101 --> 03:02:33,903
those are substantial increases.

2351
03:02:33,903 --> 03:02:38,707
I want to point out that in the Castle Rock fire department,

2352
03:02:38,707 --> 03:02:44,246
the report that we're given in our packet, I notice that calls

2353
03:02:44,246 --> 03:02:48,317
this year to date had increased by 350.

2354
03:02:48,317 --> 03:02:52,187
If my math is not completely off, it's somewhere around 7-8%

2355
03:02:52,187 --> 03:02:56,387
increase. Overall, CRFD, in the month of

2356
03:02:59,128 --> 03:03:01,864
August, fielded 23 calls per day.

2357
03:03:01,864 --> 03:03:05,802
23 calls a day. So, continuing to make these

2358
03:03:05,802 --> 03:03:10,602
staffing changes. Staffing up in fire and police.

2359
03:03:10,807 --> 03:03:13,342
Just something, even though the numbers can be a little

2360
03:03:13,342 --> 03:03:16,879
staggering. Something that we have to do

2361
03:03:16,879 --> 03:03:19,882
because the demand is continuing to increase as well.

2362
03:03:19,882 --> 03:03:21,284
Just quick point I wanted to make.

2363
03:03:21,284 --> 03:03:24,884
Thank you. >> It's a good point.

2364
03:03:25,888 --> 03:03:29,158
And aids would call fire department more.

2365
03:03:29,158 --> 03:03:33,896
>> I appreciate your bars and different colors there.

2366
03:03:33,896 --> 03:03:38,701
20% increase seems huge but I recognize the smaller houses,

2367
03:03:38,701 --> 03:03:42,380
that won't be significant. When you come back, can you

2368
03:03:42,380 --> 03:03:45,638
bring a 2,000 square-foot house, 4,000, 6,000-square foot

2369
03:03:48,577 --> 03:03:52,648
house, what it was in 2024 and now in 2027.

2370
03:03:52,648 --> 03:03:55,785
How some will be increase and some will be significant?

2371
03:03:55,785 --> 03:04:00,585
>> Absolutely. I guess the key, just to make

2372
03:04:01,190 --> 03:04:04,526
sure we're clear, and I'm going back to the chart to make sure

2373
03:04:04,526 --> 03:04:09,326
we all understand. There's still an increase for,

2374
03:04:10,933 --> 03:04:14,533
say, a 1400 square foot home proportional.

2375
03:04:16,805 --> 03:04:20,810
It's that the actual total cost is much lower.

2376
03:04:20,810 --> 03:04:25,681
And so, attainable housing, the smaller housing can really

2377
03:04:25,681 --> 03:04:28,550
moderate those fees to be more competitive.

2378
03:04:28,550 --> 03:04:32,888
If you look across the Denver metro area -- I was trying to

2379
03:04:32,888 --> 03:04:37,960
do a little bit of the research over the last week or so.

2380
03:04:37,960 --> 03:04:42,760
Castle Rock has pretty big houses compared rest

2381
03:04:43,432 --> 03:04:48,232
of metro Denver area. Our fees become can

2382
03:04:50,106 --> 03:04:53,706
competitive. Especially when the houses are

2383
03:04:54,176 --> 03:04:57,776
small. We didn't have the square

2384
03:04:58,848 --> 03:05:03,648
footage percentages in 2024. >> And maybe close to a

2385
03:05:04,522 --> 03:05:07,258
decrease or flat, I would think.

2386
03:05:07,258 --> 03:05:12,658
Thank you, Mark. See you in a few weeks.

2387
03:05:15,800 --> 03:05:19,400
Number 17, ordinance 2026-034, ordinance authorizing the

2388
03:05:22,600 --> 03:05:26,544
issuance of sale of water and sewer enterprise revenue bonds

2389
03:05:26,544 --> 03:05:30,810
or revenue refunding bonds or both.

2390
03:05:30,810 --> 03:05:33,484
Payable solely out of the net MRENLed revenues to be derived

2391
03:05:33,484 --> 03:05:35,487
from the operation of the town's water and sewer

2392
03:05:35,487 --> 03:05:37,887
enterprise. Providing other details

2393
03:05:38,423 --> 03:05:41,893
concerning the bonds, including, without limitation,

2394
03:05:41,893 --> 03:05:45,493
covenants and agreements in connection therewith.

2395
03:05:45,697 --> 03:05:49,897
Roviding other matters relate thereto, and repealing

2396
03:05:50,835 --> 03:05:55,350
ordinance number 2025-029. Finally adopted on August 19,

2397
03:05:55,974 --> 03:06:01,846
2025, relating to 2025 bonds. >> You can't get rid of me just

2398
03:06:01,846 --> 03:06:03,314
yet because I have this one as well.

2399
03:06:03,314 --> 03:06:08,453
I want to point out there's a dead issuance in the 2027

2400
03:06:08,453 --> 03:06:15,530
budget for Castle Rock water. This similar to August of last

2401
03:06:26,137 --> 03:06:30,337
year. If you were a councilmember in

2402
03:06:31,142 --> 03:06:35,146
2025, we did this ordinance that provided us a year to

2403
03:06:35,146 --> 03:06:37,482
issue revenue bonds under certain parameters.

2404
03:06:37,482 --> 03:06:43,200
And what we want to do is basically re-up that and

2405
03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:48,426
continue to both watch the market and also look at when

2406
03:06:48,426 --> 03:06:52,163
we're actually going to need to issue these revenue bonds.

2407
03:06:52,163 --> 03:06:55,900
And one of the key things that growth is slowing down in

2408
03:06:55,900 --> 03:07:00,100
Castle Rock. And we can't build our

2409
03:07:00,171 --> 03:07:03,307
renewable water projects as fast as we were.

2410
03:07:03,307 --> 03:07:07,511
That may push the revenue bonds out, potentially.

2411
03:07:07,511 --> 03:07:14,520
But we do need the flexibility for this if we need to move

2412
03:07:14,520 --> 03:07:18,252
forward more quickly to build the infrastructure.

2413
03:07:18,656 --> 03:07:23,995
This repeals the previous one and puts a new one in place.

2414
03:07:23,995 --> 03:07:28,733
It reserves that flexibility for us to watch the market

2415
03:07:28,733 --> 03:07:33,671
conditions, cash flow, and the timing of projects for the best

2416
03:07:33,671 --> 03:07:39,710
time issue debt. And as part of this ordinance,

2417
03:07:45,883 --> 03:07:49,620
there's one piece we hope will definitely go forward.

2418
03:07:49,620 --> 03:07:53,824
We're seeking a loan prom the Colorado water conservation

2419
03:07:53,824 --> 03:07:56,961
board because we get a reduced rate through them.

2420
03:07:56,961 --> 03:08:00,832
So, a rate better than what we would get if we go with revenue

2421
03:08:00,832 --> 03:08:05,437
bonds on the open market. So, about a half a percent.

2422
03:08:05,437 --> 03:08:11,437
We're looking at a loan of around $30 million from CWCD

2423
03:08:14,779 --> 03:08:21,318
and the primary focus is to pay for the east plum creek

2424
03:08:21,318 --> 03:08:26,724
pipeline project, which has to go forward because of our

2425
03:08:26,724 --> 03:08:29,394
federal grant and hopefully Colorado state grant that we're

2426
03:08:29,394 --> 03:08:34,665
going to get. We're going to find out if we

2427
03:08:34,665 --> 03:08:37,936
get the Colorado water conservation board loan in

2428
03:08:37,936 --> 03:08:42,736
November. And if we get that loan, this

2429
03:08:42,874 --> 03:08:47,145
ordinance amount of revenue bonds that we can issue

2430
03:08:47,145 --> 03:08:54,285
by the amount of that loan. It calls for up to $66 million

2431
03:08:54,285 --> 03:08:57,888
in revenue bonds. If we get this loan, that would

2432
03:08:57,888 --> 03:09:03,161
be reduced by the amount of the loan automatically.

2433
03:09:03,161 --> 03:09:07,961
Now, the net effective interest rate maximum is 5%.

2434
03:09:12,170 --> 03:09:15,770
Final maturity no later than November 2026.

2435
03:09:16,107 --> 03:09:20,578
I will say the cwcd loan is the 10-year loan.

2436
03:09:20,578 --> 03:09:25,583
Right now in terms of the loan and revenue bonds or a better

2437
03:09:25,583 --> 03:09:30,655
deal than 20 or 30-year revenue bonds from an interest-rate

2438
03:09:30,655 --> 03:09:34,255
standpoint, if we can afford it.

2439
03:09:34,859 --> 03:09:37,929
We can definitely afford the loan.

2440
03:09:37,929 --> 03:09:43,468
The revenue bonds, we'll to wait and see how it turns out.

2441
03:09:43,468 --> 03:09:46,137
We're one slight change to the ordinance than last year.

2442
03:09:46,137 --> 03:09:50,341
We're asking for refunding authority for the three bond

2443
03:09:50,341 --> 03:09:57,541
issuance that we have out now in case interest rates allow us

2444
03:09:57,681 --> 03:10:02,219
to put ourselves in a better position and reduce our

2445
03:10:02,219 --> 03:10:06,424
borrowing costs. I'm not sure I expect that to

2446
03:10:06,424 --> 03:10:09,424
happen. And then obviously there's

2447
03:10:14,432 --> 03:10:16,835
projects that have to be tied to that.

2448
03:10:16,835 --> 03:10:19,504
These are the projects the revenue bonds would be issued

2449
03:10:19,504 --> 03:10:22,841
for. These are the same projects in

2450
03:10:22,841 --> 03:10:26,440
the budget essentially. So, I won't spend a lot of time

2451
03:10:26,440 --> 03:10:29,644
there. And of course, there's no

2452
03:10:31,480 --> 03:10:37,480
immediate impact to the budget until we issue the revenue

2453
03:10:37,188 --> 03:10:41,388
bonds. Now, annual debt service by the

2454
03:10:41,659 --> 03:10:46,459
ordinance is limited to 5.5 million and total repayment

2455
03:10:47,197 --> 03:10:49,467
costs of 108 million. That's also part of this.

2456
03:10:49,467 --> 03:10:54,405
And you can can see the debt service is just based on the

2457
03:10:54,405 --> 03:10:58,943
water and sewer revenues. So, that is all that can be

2458
03:10:58,943 --> 03:11:02,613
used to pay these back. And they're on parity with our

2459
03:11:02,613 --> 03:11:06,813
other bonds. And then the refunding bonds

2460
03:11:07,850 --> 03:11:12,485
also, they have a maximum repayment of 4.3 anualy and 33

2461
03:11:15,106 --> 03:11:19,906
million total. And this is the schedule for

2462
03:11:20,778 --> 03:11:23,180
this one. This is first reading on this

2463
03:11:23,180 --> 03:11:26,384
one tonight. And the reason for that is we

2464
03:11:26,384 --> 03:11:35,384
want to go ahead and get this in place so that we are able to

2465
03:11:36,590 --> 03:11:41,732
move forward if interest rates end up in a good place.

2466
03:11:41,732 --> 03:11:48,606
The other thing this does allow us to do -- or you passed at

2467
03:11:48,606 --> 03:11:55,146
the last council meeting is allows us to go back 60 grays

2468
03:11:55,146 --> 03:11:59,483
and use anything from the date this is passed back 60 days, we

2469
03:11:59,483 --> 03:12:03,754
can use these revenue bonds for as well.

2470
03:12:03,754 --> 03:12:08,250
And with that, any questions? >> Any questions for Mark?

2471
03:12:08,250 --> 03:12:11,162
Seeing none. I have no one sign upped to

2472
03:12:11,162 --> 03:12:14,162
speak. Anyone wishes to speak,

2473
03:12:14,365 --> 03:12:17,435
approach the podium, state your name, resident, nonresident,

2474
03:12:17,435 --> 03:12:20,504
business owner. Four minutes to speak.

2475
03:12:20,504 --> 03:12:23,775
I'll close public hearing and bring item back to Town Council

2476
03:12:23,775 --> 03:12:26,775
for further discussion and motion.

2477
03:12:27,311 --> 03:12:32,649
>> I move to approve ordinance 2026-034 as introduced by

2478
03:12:32,649 --> 03:12:34,510
title. >> Same.

2479
03:12:34,510 --> 03:12:37,651
>> First and second. Any further discussion?

2480
03:12:38,990 --> 03:12:43,790
A lot of good information. Thank you, Mark.

2481
03:12:44,462 --> 03:12:47,462
Roll call vote [ Roll call]

2482
03:12:53,337 --> 03:12:55,807
>> Thank you. Motion passes unanimously.

2483
03:12:55,807 --> 03:12:58,207
>> Thank you. Number 18 --

2484
03:13:02,480 --> 03:13:06,551
>> Given the time, I would request that council consider a

2485
03:13:06,551 --> 03:13:12,551
motion to extend the meeting past 9:30 to the conclusion of

2486
03:13:12,824 --> 03:13:14,625
the executive session discussion.

2487
03:13:14,625 --> 03:13:17,428
>> Even though we're not returning?

2488
03:13:17,428 --> 03:13:22,228
>> Yes, because you're meeting. An executive session meeting.

2489
03:13:22,566 --> 03:13:25,566
>> I vote to extend. >> Second.

2490
03:13:26,637 --> 03:13:31,437
>> First and mayor pro tem. Role call vote.

2491
03:13:36,460 --> 03:13:38,446
[ Roll call] >> Thank you.

2492
03:13:40,718 --> 03:13:43,118
Motion passes. >> Thank you.

2493
03:13:43,387 --> 03:13:46,387
Number 18. Adjourn to executive session,

2494
03:13:46,724 --> 03:13:49,124
not to return. 2026-011.

2495
03:13:51,662 --> 03:13:54,732
Consider a motion to recess einto executive session for the

2496
03:13:54,732 --> 03:13:58,936
purpose of having conference with the town attorney to

2497
03:13:58,936 --> 03:14:03,736
receive legal advice regarding enforce provisions related to

2498
03:14:04,141 --> 03:14:10,141
chapter 2.05 of the Castle Rock town code, all pursuant to

2499
03:14:15,819 --> 03:14:22,419
CRS24-6-402 (4) (b) and will not reconvene at the conclusion

2500
03:14:25,763 --> 03:14:29,566
of the executive session. First and second.

2501
03:14:29,566 --> 03:14:32,566
Roll call vote. [ Roll call]

2502
03:14:32,837 --> 03:14:35,237
>> Thank you. Motion passes.

2503
03:14:36,174 --> 03:14:39,710
>> I'll gavel out and we will not return.

2504
03:14:39,710 --> 03:14:42,110
Thank you for coming.