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Welcome everyone to our regular town
council meeting. It's Wednesday, August

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19th at 6:30 p.m. We're at lap 2 Castle
Valley Drag. We're also available on

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Zoom tonight.
Um we're going to go ahead and do a

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quick roll call and then we'll open with
open public comment.

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So here we have Jasmine Duncan, Robert
O'Brien, Tory Hill, Emily Gibson, Harry

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Holland, Doré Honer, Colleen Thompson,
Ron Drake, Eggmont Honer, Li Wellins,

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and guest star Neil Herbert.

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» I'll go ahead and open uh the public
comment.

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» I've got something. Um, I just wanted to
make sure everybody was aware of the DWR

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and the simpler negotiations going on
the Lasowl blocks. So, they've entered

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into a purchase agreement where the DWR
if they get the money, they'll buy um

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there two blocks of land up on the
mountains that are set property. So,

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it's about I think the north one's about
12,000 acres and the south one's about

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14 15,000 acres.
Um, so that's a negotiation and no

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defending the chat, but I just wanted
people to know about that.

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» And those those are out of our wershed.
They are just barely just barely.

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» Yeah. Just right on the other side.
>> Yeah.

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» That goes into a public reserve or like
a wildlife is what they're looking at.

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» Well, the DWR would actually own it.
>> They'd manage it. They say they would

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manage it pretty much like it is now
with hunting

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» recreation and grazing too. So
>> not not the parcels that are in our

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wershed.
>> No, it's the it's the two big blocks. If

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you look on a map, they're big blue
chunks on top of all the cells.

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» Oh, okay.
>> One on the south, one on the north.

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» Okay.
>> So, yeah, it's just over the ridge from

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our road.
>> Okay. Robin asked my question. So,

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» other open public comment. Neil, did you
want to introduce yourself?

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» Yeah, I will take that opportunity. Um,
hi everyone. My name is Neil Herbert and

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I'm running for the atlarge seat. I'm a
Korean county commission currently

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occupied by a field. Um just to give you
a brief background um I moved here in

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1994
to uh to work for Cany National Park and

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I continued work for parks here for
about 20 years. Uh at the same time

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around the late 90s I started a web
development business and uh produced a

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lot of websites for businesses
nonprofits uh all over town including

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the town of Castle Valley. We determined
sometime in the early 2000s or around 28

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2007. Um in 2013 I got a job offer in
Yellowstone. I couldn't fuse and left

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for about 13 years. Went to Yellowstone,
worked for the parks service, moved to

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Boise, Idaho, worked for Department of
the Interior in various capacities. Um

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but last year I left the government and
also left the web development behind and

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moved back to MA and my new job is
running Karen County.

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Um so happy to meet you all. Uh I firmly
believe that the Grand County that Grand

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County deserves um leadership built on
trust, respect, and collaboration. I

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think that's been lacking somewhat from
what I've seen in recent meetings. Um

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and uh if you agree with that or if you
disagree with that, I'd love to talk to

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you more. I am going to be back here
next Thursday. There's a get to know the

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candidates event, I believe, here at
6:30. Um, and I'll be here along along

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with a few other candidates. So, and get
a chance to talk a little more in depth,

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but wanted to come out early and
introduce myself and watch a Castle

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Valley Town Council meeting. So, thank
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» Thanks, Neil.
>> You're in for a show.

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» Any other open public comment tonight?
>> Okay, we'll move on to item two,

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approval of the minutes. First, the
minutes from our regular town council

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meeting of July 15, 2026.

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I move we approve those as presented.
>> Second.

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» Further discussion. All in favor?
>> I

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» I
>> abst.

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» And then um approval of the minutes from
our public hearing on the tax increase

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from August 12th, 2026.
So keep in mind these are sent to you in

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a PDF form because
public hearing minutes are pretty much

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verbatim. We're not very concerned about
typos.

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We do have to get these minutes to the
state like tonight.

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So with all that in mind, are there any
obviously

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big blenders? That's what that we need
to address.

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» I move we approve those.
>> Second.

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» Any further discussion? All in favor? I
I understand.

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Okay, we'll move into item three,
executive reports. Um, our water agent

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water advisory committee report. John
and Obie, you're up.

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» Or I guess I'll go first since I was at
the WAC meeting. Um, we had a very

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informative meeting. We covered our
usual topics pretty quickly, but the

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main event of the meeting was an
appearance on Zoom by attorney attorney

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Emily Lewis. Sue Bellagamba arranged
this. They have a relationship from

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Sue's days at the Nature Conservancy.
And Emily um basically

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explained
the current state and and the concept of

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water banking and water leasing to us
and it was very informative. I I again I

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she was quick to point out this is a you
know the whole thing is a work in

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progress but but she gave us kind of
where an overview of where it seemed to

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be heading and what um how it would
probably need to be approached in the

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future if it became a strategy that
Castle Valley wanted to employ. It was

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it was time very well spent. Um, I've
asked her asked Emily if she could if

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she had a PowerPoint presentation. Um,
if if she could send that to us. Um,

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maybe she sent it to Sue. I have not
seen it yet.

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Anyway, it was it was great. Um, I can't
say enough good things about her. Um,

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speaking of attorneys, um, as at the
last meeting, we agreed I could go ahead

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and and contact the town, the current
town water attorney

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regarding proposed revisions to the
water use ordinance and the water use

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agreement and permit. I've attempted to
do that. I emailed him and got no

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response for what seemed like enough
time that I then called. And um, I did

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get him. And apparently his father, the
senior Jonathan Clyde, had died just a

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few days earlier and they're all kind of
wrapped up in that. And we agreed that

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the attorney John Clyde that we work
with would call me sometime this week.

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He'd review what I he would review what
I had sent him and we'd get our heads

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together this week. It hasn't happened
yet, but that's still the plan. Um I

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think that's pretty much all I have.

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» Obby, anything to add? The only thing I
add is the one thing they that Lewis

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said basically was our 40-year plan as a
town gives us a fair amount of

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protection. And then it's a bit unclear
what we might do after that, but there

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was a lot of food for thought that I'm
sure we'll be discussing at the water

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committee.
Did you have Amy?

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» I did listen to the recording and of
course pretty good minutes by minutes

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shar. So um well well done.
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referred to the 40-year plan. That is
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the the key to the the the protect the
basically the the statutory

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um authority towns have to maintain
unused water rights um stemming from the

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2009 Utah Supreme Court decision. Um and
and the town does have a 40-year plan.

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One was filed at that time. Um, which
means it's due for renewal in what,

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spare me the arithmetic,
23 more years. Um, I talked to Chad

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about it. Um, Chad, excuse me, cash and
and you know, and he said basically you

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can renew them any time if if you know
if there's fundamental changes in in in

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your water reality or whatnot, you you
can you can update your 40-year plan at

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any time. I've talked to Sarah about
that. I don't think we're planning on

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taking any immediate action, but it's
something to sort of keep in mind to be

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proactive about that because that really
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again the key to the protections that
towns enjoy with respect to water

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rights.
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» can I ask something? Um, you had sent us
an email maybe last week, but I can't

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find now for some reason about comments
on the state's water plan.

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» Yeah, John, did you happen to look at
that and is there any reason that we

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need to look at that? I I looked at it.
I not not in great detail. I scanned it.

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Um I don't think there's
much reason to comment on it. Um it

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looked pretty good to me. Um
again, I didn't see nothing jump off the

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page at me. That's something we would
want to register our feelings about. And

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of course, um would they pay attention
anyway? This is this is the state. Um,

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» well, I just wanted to make everybody
aware of it mostly.

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» Yeah, and I'm glad you did because I I
was unaware of it until you till you

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sent that link. Um, you know, but I got
to say that Utah, for all the misgivings

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we might have about other ways the
government functions, is is always been

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pretty forward thinking and and and and
about water. In other words, I I I I

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tend to trust the people at the state
level who are who are managing water and

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the and the current state engineer and
others. I don't always agree with them,

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but I think they doing their best and
and and and thinking things through and

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and and um you know, planning wisely.
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» Yeah.
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Any other questions for the guys? Okay,
we'll go ahead and move on to the rub

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department report. Questions for Dorier?
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» Um I had a question. So, uh, side repair
cost estimates. Um, so Lebrand bid that

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out at $9 a foot and from your
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project that they had done previously.
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ended up being for them. Uh, it's kind
of just as a

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» on a similar situation or
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» Uhhuh. And um you came in at 450 a
square foot. Is that after you and

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Eggmont did a bunch of the repairs and
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» Yes. So the last two sets of patches we
got down to about that value. Before

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that it was a little bit higher. Um just
kind of optimizing what we're doing. Um

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granted a big part of that is still the
material. So the cold patch is

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essentially $250 out of $450 per square
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Um, so realistically, I'm not sure how
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contract price versus ours.
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I don't know who who was running the
machinery, Eggmont. That was awesome. I

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couldn't imagine how you didn't tear up
more of the asphalt than you did. I

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mean, seriously,
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» I know. I could tell that. And I'm I am
in awe that your ability to run that

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greater. So, thank you. That was that
was great. Good job.

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» Really good job.
>> Saved us a lot of money.

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» Well, hopefully
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» Yeah. Um so, we've kind of optimized
that. There may be some equipment that

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could make this an easier process in the
future. Take less time, less equipment,

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things like that. Um, at this at this
stage, it's totally research. It's kind

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of out there seeing if it would work.
Um, I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in

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there, cold in place recycling. I can
send you some resources on that if

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you're interested. But essentially what
it is is instead of um getting fresh

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material in um the cold mix asphalt, uh
we would just use the torn up uh asphalt

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off the road with the mill. Um this is
hopeful. Um it is done on larger

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machines but smaller scale may not be as
viable. Um but hopefully it would

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eliminate bringing in new material. You
would just bring in the oil and mix it

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with the
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» with the old asphalt. Um and it would
also eliminate getting rid of the refues

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which is one thing that is not included
in the $450

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» and we would have to take it to
Klondike. So, it is a trip.

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» And as you were doing that, does it seem
cost effective for you two to be doing

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all of that work, or is that going to be
a big deal?

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» I mean, for the most part, we probably
have more edge repair to do than most

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people would. Um, at some point, they'd
probably just pave it or do whatever

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else with it. Um, so we're kind of in a
neat unique position there. Um,

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but I think with machines the time
especially could be optimized because

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right now um,
essentially each pothole is two to three

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hours guaranteed plus an hour or two of
prep on either end. Um, getting things

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ready, cleaning up afterwards. Um, and
if things go well with other equipment,

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it could be reduced massively. I'm not
sure how far, but um, I have started

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talking to CAT and some other equipment
suppliers to hopefully get

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demonstrations and things like that to
see if this these kinds of pieces of

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equipment would suit our purposes or
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» I think my my biggest concern with the
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done
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more like
I see I see that amount of work becoming

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more of a capital project than I do an
operational

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project.
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coming out of our operational budget
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budget.
>> The question I mean right now we're not

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we're essentially not full-time and the
thing is if you contract it out it's

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going to cost you at least twice as much
essentially. That's

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» but what I'm saying is is that if we're
going to have you do it in house, you

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also need to do your regular
maintenance. So the money for that I

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think should be coming out of capital
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has to be in addition to maintenance
that already needs to be done. And if

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that's all good
with everybody and everyone's time,

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» well, that that is one of the
considerations because essentially if

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this type of system works
optimally or the dream situation for it,

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I'm not expecting that by any means, but
essentially the 4hour thing could be

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reduced to like 15 minutes with maybe 30
minutes of prep on either side, but then

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you could do essentially a full day of
just doing all the potholes. You have

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one hour of crap and you get a lot of
work. So,

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» and we could buy the equipment out of
the capital funds. That would

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essentially be the the idea.
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» eventually. Um,
>> so then that would be the question. Can

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we afford the equipment with what we
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» My question is more
>> how quickly does the equipment become

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worth it?
>> No. How much time do you guys want to

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put in?
I mean, you've been, you know,

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seriously, because you've been hired as
a part-time position and then that

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makes, you know, your whole year. Oh,
now I'm working full-time.

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» Well, it didn't work last year.

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» Very part time. Let me rephrase.
>> Yeah. because because they were saving

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money because the
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» trying to save money and which they did
which is awesome because

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» now the big project is the asphalt at
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» one example that I wasn't even fully
aware of but uh between pace and

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Buchanan where we just put the four in
where it sticks out is actually the

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original road. There's essentially two
feet missing off of that whole section

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of road
>> that needs to be put back on. So

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essentially the $450 price that we're
talking about just between Pace and

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Buchanan and the dog leg is probably 20
or 30,000 as it stands. So it's going to

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be expensive one way or the other. Um
we could potentially abandon the outer 2

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feet of quite a bit of the road and just
reduce it down to 10T.

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So, right now the original width was 12
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» Um, but it's that's going to be a
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and
if you have the equipment and you can

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bring down the price and the time with
that, it makes it easier to deal with in

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the future and less of a hassle.
>> As long as you have people to use the

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equipment.
>> Yeah.

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» And what kind of equipment are you
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essentially one of the core pieces of
equipment is what's called a cold

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planer. It's essentially a bunch of
carbide teeth on a drum that spins

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around chews up the asphalt and little
bits. Um

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and like one of the things right now is
we're often doing quite a bit of the

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work with a pickaxe
and the equipment. I mean you guys got

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lucky that I'm under 30. I don't know if
you'll get that lucky again. Probably

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easier to have somebody operate
equipment than to be

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» swinging a pickaxe out in 100 degree
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» uh that's kind of another consideration
there. Uh

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» and you're not going to be under 30
long.

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» No, I know. It's running out.
>> Well, that's also that's a huge

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consideration because we're not really
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either.
And I see a lot of these things probably

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are going to have to be contracted in
the future

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» potentially
>> and we're probably going to end up

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selling all this equipment because we
won't have anybody to run it.

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» That's like reality.

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» So you get back to us on how much this
equipment should cost it.

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» Yeah. I'm right now I'm kind of trying
to figure out what model would work for

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us. Right now it's looking like the used
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between 10 and 20. Um the one that we'd
most likely go for I think is 24,000

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new.
>> Is that one going to compact too or just

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chew out
>> that just choosing? Uh so we wouldn't we

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may still want to get a separate wheel
compactor. I've asked for quote on like

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greater amount of compactor. So I'm
looking into other options for

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compaction. But
yeah, we would hopefully at least have

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some compaction directly after it,
especially if we do the recycling. Uh,

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so hopefully it's only a few passes to
do it and reducing it because right now

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we are at a minimum of four machines. If
we're doing a piece of patching out

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there, it's four machines that we're
taking. Um, and even just reducing that

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to two is huge because then it's no back
and forth, no logistics.

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» Do you mind if I ask?
>> No, go ahead.

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» Yeah. Um, how much material like how
much raw material do you need? Because I

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mean when you're when you start getting
so much dirt into the asphalt, then you

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start having the whole thing collapse,
you know? I mean, that's I was just, you

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know, in you've got cod, you've got
asphalt that's in there now, right?

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» Yes.
>> And and you're grinding that up to make

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the new layer.
>> It the oil alone isn't going to have

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enough uh cohesion. You're going to have
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That's that's what I'm saying. When you
add dirt to that, you know, so I've just

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concerned about the thickness of the
asphalt,

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» and if it's going to be more dirt than
asphalt, then you're you're going to run

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it.
>> Yeah. Um, so I've already gone down the

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rabbit hole on this, but essentially
what it comes down to is we have a bit

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of road base underneath the road. Um,
again, you can adjust how deep you go.

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Often they do like two to three inches
at a time.

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» U, but essentially the cold patch
asphalt that we're getting is roadbased

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mixed with it. It's called oil, but it's
actually an asphalt emulsion. Okay?

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» So it's mixed with water. The way the
emulsion works is once the water

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evaporates out, it is cured and then it
is no longer water solid. So, it doesn't

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like wash through.
Uh, but you can thin it with water. You

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can clean it up with water or so. Um,
but it's essentially the there is a

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concern with the super clay stuff. If
you get too much of that in,

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» that's what I was thinking. But you
should be able to modulate the mixture

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enough hopefully. Uh
>> add some of what you already have to the

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recycle if you needed to.
>> Yeah.

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» Um and like if if we need more material,
we just put in road base or even just

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the old asphalt chunks that we have, we
can just grind up, put in there.

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» Again, this is the hope.
>> Uh it is done on larger scale machines.

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I just haven't seen a unit that's sold
for smaller stuff. Well, that's what I

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was thinking worried about if it's
small,

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» but there's definitely ways to deal with
it. And essentially, all the formulas

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that are out there for it are all up to
DOT and like interstate specifications

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and they've been there for 10 years and
they've had it just fine. So, even if we

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don't hit on the perfect mixture, we are
not trying to hit DOT specifications.

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And like the cold mix asphalt we're
using is nowhere near DOT specifications

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to begin with. So,
um, it's the question of would it work

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well enough for us,
but good question. Thank you.

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» No, no, I was just I was just concerned
that we get too much, you know, play

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place of material with it.
>> There there would be ways to deal with

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it and you can control the depth very
precisely. So,

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» um, you can definitely minimize.
Other question?

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» Just a comment on the $244 a gallon
transmission fluid.

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» Do you want
No,

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» that's 110 gallons. 2,449.
>> It's about 24 gallons.

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» 20. I'm sorry.
>> Yes,

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» it's on the agenda.
>> Is is still expensive.

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» Too much.

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» Okay. Well, hopefully we're not changing
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in the next 30 years would be my guess.
So,

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» this is Oh, great. Not another six month
thing.

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» No, it's not a six month thing. This is
>> This is about as big as it gets. You

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need to put another 2,000 hours of
machine before you get anywhere here.

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» Oh, and it's good to see you taking care
of our Yes,

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» that's
>> Thank you.

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» to replace it. It's about a quart
million dollars and we got really lucky.

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So, it's worth a few thousand cubits.
Nice.

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» Yeah, no kidding.
Okay, we'll move on to the planning and

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land use
commission

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questions there
minutes in your packet.

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Um, Pamela, do you have anything new
from Utah Renewable Communities?

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» Nothing to report for. We're working on
the getting the word out. I've had been

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in contact with folks at
uh Moab and in Grand County so to get

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out the word and so we're moving.
>> Okay.

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» Can we back up to the pluck?
>> Sure.

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» Um I just a question on the containers.
Two containers were dropped and no

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permit or
>> Great. Happens a lot.

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» Not infrequently. Excuse me. Yeah. I
sent an email to the owner. Haven't

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heard that.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah, that actually that does happen a
lot. They just show up and sometimes it

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gets reported and sometimes nobody not
nobody thinks anything of it. They just

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don't realize they need a certificate of
land use compliance

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» for drop a container.
>> Yeah, it's mostly just to make sure the

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setback is okay. And this thing and it's
drainage.

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» Please don't forget that.
>> This this happened to be right across

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the road from where Ryan lives, so he
noticed

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» and he mentioned it.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» Um Ron Drake, anything for the fire?
>> Well, I might mention that Patrick uh

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Kelly has donated all this.
you call it weightlifting workout

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equipment.
And so next week we're gonna put that to

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go get it put it up at the firehouse. So
uh all the old equipment that we had up

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there is is down here by the fire
building and anybody's welcome to it.

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So
>> there's two Nordic tracks, an

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elliptical, a Bowlex, and what else do
we a little bike

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» from 1972?
>> It weighs about 1,400 lb.

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» It was the AB cruiser from the
>> ke.

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Yes.
>> Too much fun.

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And how much are the memberships to this
new health club going to be?

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» Just have to

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join the fire department.

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» Anything else?
>> No.

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» I'm calling anything from information
technology.

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I'm just trying to spread the word that
when we have power outages now, the

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library's free Wi-Fi is on a battery
that should last for at least 12 hours.

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And we've also now got uh the town's
network, including the server and one

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office computer on a battery backup that
should go for hopefully at least 12

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hours in case there's an emergency we
have to access information.

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Thanks for getting that taken care of.
>> Any correspondence?

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» No.
>> Uh, so we do have two

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positions open. Um, our clerk and our
grounds keeper both had things come up

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and ground day.
>> Yeah, there we are again.

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So yes, still advertising those
positions.

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Any letters we need to talk about?
Okay. Anything else under

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administrative?
I

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» think so.
>> Okay.

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Uh then we'll move into new business.
Item six, discussion and possible action

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regarding updating the capital projects
plan. So, during our uh tax increase

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public hearing when um Bill Gustin
brought up the long-term planning, I

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thought this would be a great time to
get that out and update because we did a

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bunch of the stuff on on
>> Yeah, I was noticing that. Yeah, good

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timing.
>> And it's time to do that.

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So, wherever it is here.
So, obviously, um,

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the tip ceiling of Castle Valley Drive
is going to stay on our capital projects

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plan always because that's a 7 to 10
year project. Every 7 to 10 years, we

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take care of that major maintenance of
Castle Valley Drive.

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And that is largely what our budget this
year, why we went into a tax increase

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discussion to begin with.
So we did the lower water crossing in

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the upper 80.
We replace our greater.

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We bought a different backhoe.
Um,

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so we still need a dump truck
and what we had also put a rock crusher

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in here
>> compactor and coal planter are probably

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higher up the list. The
>> replacing this.

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» Yeah, at least for now.
>> Did you catch that, Josyn?

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» A coal planer and a contractor.
>> Yeah. replaces

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» the rock crusher.
>> I mean, that's something, but that's

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like two or three years out at this
point. And

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» but it needs to be in the capital
project.

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» I mean, it's something that could make
gravel a lot cheaper. That's the main

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deal we have.
>> I had a question. What is the sander?

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Purchasing a sander.
>> That was something we discussed at our

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last
>> that that is something that we may still

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be considering. Um the there's a number
of different options, but essentially

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what it is for is for spreading a thin
layer of materials. So like during the

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winter, you can use it for spreading
sand on the roads for deicing and

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traction. Okay.
>> Um if you want to do a thin layer of

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gravel that's very even, you can do it
for that.

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» Technically, it's the same system that
they use for chip sealing uh for laying

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the actual chips down. So there's a
bunch of fuses for that.

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do. So, we had discussed and I think we
probably need to change this one because

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just the the viability of our water
situation here. Um, running water to the

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road shed.
>> Yeah. And I don't think it's worth it

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either.
>> We're bringing personal water to

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pressure wash with because both this lot
and lot 13 are scary right now.

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» Yeah. So, what about a tank that you
could actually have back there?

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» Like a gravity feed system
>> up behind the, you know,

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» that could replace that eggmart.
>> You need a pumping system for that

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because I tried it today just with a
gravity feed even if I'm high up.

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» But you could put a pump in a tank.
>> I'm sorry.

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» You could put a pump in a tank.
>> Well, I mean, we could just get another

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» Yeah, it's not a problem. I mean, I'm
just saying just gravity feed.

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» It won't do it.
>> And essentially, we have the tanks on

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the water truck,
>> right?

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» And if you need clean water, you can
settle it out or we can go through

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Castle Valley Academy if necessary.
>> So, there are a few options there.

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00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:11,120
» Is it still is getting Wi-Fi up there
still something we need to work on?

416
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:15,120
Um, we kind of have Wi-Fi through the
fire department. If we open up the

417
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,880
garage doors, but
if the garage doors are closed, you

418
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,320
don't have Wi-Fi.
>> So, that's we at least have a pseudo

419
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:28,000
solution for that.
>> And I think we have discussed the co the

420
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:32,640
cost of paving compared to chip ceiling
being pretty much out of reach for this

421
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:41,039
kind of a community.
Um, so we did also do our isotope study.

422
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,440
So are we still thinking about another
monitoring well? Does that mean to stay

423
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:49,679
on
>> I I it's I think it's ambiguous because

424
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:56,480
of course we have the well that was
originally within the wellace

425
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:59,840
and I think that may be sufficient
>> and that might be what we end up using.

426
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:06,559
All right.
We have the peer review done of our

427
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:09,839
water study. Um, and so the partial
flume, we still look at something at the

428
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,720
top, right?
>> At the top, but we have the one at the

429
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,000
bottom
>> that the Colorado River,

430
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:20,879
» right?
>> Thank So there's no monitor of top, but

431
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,919
there's nothing that there's no partial
flow at the top.

432
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:28,560
» Okay. So that needs to stay on here.
>> And if that's outside, would that need

433
00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:30,639
to be outside the town boundary?
Does that

434
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,720
» Yeah, it would be it would be it is
outside.

435
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,399
» It is outside because it's on the other
side of the valley.

436
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,599
» Yeah.
>> So, we'd have some kind of like what do

437
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:40,879
they call it? Extra territorial
jurisdiction.

438
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:46,639
» No, we we'd probably have to talk with
BLM or if it's in 7th Day Advance

439
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,399
property, but I think it's out might be
outside of their property, but they put

440
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:55,040
a pipe through there to pipe water down
to them, too. So,

441
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:59,760
» probably Yeah. So, we need to convince
them to do it instead of spending our

442
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:04,240
capital projects money on it.
>> It'd be nice if BLM would put it in, but

443
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:08,560
I doubt that.
>> Um, but because this is our capital

444
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:14,480
projects plan and we are looking at
metering, which is required by the

445
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:17,680
state. Um, that maybe should be should
that be a capital project in this plan?

446
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,839
» I think that could be
>> because we're going to have to come up

447
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,280
with.
>> Yeah.

448
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:25,520
» Yeah. Definitely.
>> Yeah. I think it is important to know

449
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,599
the the amount coming in, the amount
going out.

450
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,280
» Oh, definitely.
>> Well, and it's a requirement.

451
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:37,040
» Yeah.
>> Okay. We had also talked about um our

452
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:40,560
emergency operations
and that including a generator for lot

453
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,680
13
>> and would we still want to do that if

454
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:49,119
that will is all
>> they already have a generator on 13.

455
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:54,160
» Yeah. Um,
>> I think

456
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:58,800
we're already working on backup power
for our emergency operations out of the

457
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:02,880
building. I think the only other thing
would be actually powering the building

458
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:07,520
so that there was a place for people to
be warm or cold

459
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,200
» and some of those prolonged outages.
>> Yeah. Egg, is that still a ongoing

460
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:16,720
project or
>> uh this is a plan. It's not a a project

461
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:21,200
in process. It's like, you know, if
we're if we're going to have a capital

462
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:24,240
projects account, do you have a plan for
that money?

463
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:28,640
» It it's not necessarily active. One of
the big reasons for this plan is a lot

464
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:30,880
of times grants or other things like
that won't even talk to you if you

465
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,280
haven't
>> if you don't have it on the plan.

466
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,359
» That's one of the big reasons. Mhm.
>> Yeah. This one was created for the CBG

467
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:46,079
grant,
>> but we need to keep it active because we

468
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:51,119
also need to be budgeting money into our
capital projects accounts every year,

469
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:55,280
not just overage. I mean, it needs to be
part of our budget.

470
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,720
» We don't have any kind of priority this
list, right?

471
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:02,720
» It's totally interchangeable.
>> Yeah. Um,

472
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:06,560
» I think it'd be important to have a some
kind of backup for this building that

473
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,960
would heat and cool.
>> Yeah, that was

474
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:12,320
» and I talked to a couple of people a
couple of weeks ago who came here to get

475
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,960
to cool off
>> because their houses weren't cool

476
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,079
enough.
>> Well, with a swamp cooler and humidity

477
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,880
and they won't.
>> That's right.

478
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:25,280
» Some people don't even have cool.
>> We don't.

479
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,520
I'm amazed cuz I go into your house and
I'm like, "Oh my god, I would die if I

480
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:32,960
lived here.
So something big enough I mean you know

481
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:36,960
it might even have to be a gas powered
or propane generator.

482
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:43,760
» What's Yeah.
>> That is the fire department generator

483
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:45,839
» that is actually suitable I just
discovered to

484
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:52,160
» that you brought up
>> wider for one phase.

485
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:53,359
» So that would be three buildings at
least.

486
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,280
» I'm sorry what?
>> That's all three buildings at least.

487
00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:01,359
That's the whole lot. Easy.
>> Yeah. You mean the existing one or the

488
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,560
behind the building?
>> Well, which would be really important to

489
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:09,359
have the fire station on there too and
that way the doors work and like you

490
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:12,720
know the
>> you won't have automatic kick on with

491
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:17,599
that though. But that's
>> and that old generator actually work.

492
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,760
» So that's a manual turn on. Someone
would need

493
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,839
» No, you can actually automate it.
>> Okay. Okay.

494
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:29,119
So that's definitely something that
should be in our capital projects. Um,

495
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:36,000
the other thing that I've been thinking
about and I don't know at what point

496
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:41,440
this could be 10 years plus out is
looking at our Shaper Lane ingress

497
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:46,079
egress for emergencies after having used
it and then having uh flooding after the

498
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:48,960
fact.
>> Oh,

499
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:55,280
» where Plaster Creek crosses Schaffer
Lane um went over the road again.

500
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,680
So there's definitely some work needs to
be done there and I don't know if that

501
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:05,040
in the future
maybe another low water crossing or I

502
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:08,000
don't know if that needs to become a
capital project.

503
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:14,000
» The thing is is right now it is
essentially a low water crossing. It is

504
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:18,800
a dirt one but um last year the year
before um over the past two years we

505
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:23,520
have been armoring that with really
large rock. So, it should be very

506
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,880
difficult for that to fully wash out.
The surface will likely get rough when

507
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,359
that happens, but I mean, the same thing
happens at the upper 80. And if it's got

508
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:35,040
the same structural integrity and cost
180,000 less,

509
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,880
don't know if it's worth it going for
the concrete.

510
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,520
» Well, if it doesn't need to be a capital
project, then I'm because this is going

511
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,760
to determine like how much we need to
budget each year

512
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:51,440
to go into those accounts.
>> That's not super critical. There's other

513
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:54,440
ways to deal with it. Okay. So,
>> so

514
00:39:55,359 --> 00:40:06,800
where we're at right now is taking care
of Castle Valley Drive and um

515
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,800
potentially some equipment to do that.
>> Can I ask just a

516
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:13,760
» water metering?
>> Sorry.

517
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:19,280
» Go ahead. Um, so back in 2024,
why was the town

518
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,200
putting a generator for lot 13 on our
wish list?

519
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,359
» Okay.
>> And not the fire department

520
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,599
» emergency service
>> because it would benefit the whole

521
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:31,280
» town,
>> but the fire department ended up paying,

522
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,520
right?
>> You know, it's a publicly owned

523
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:37,680
» Yeah.
>> parcel by the fire district.

524
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:41,440
» Yeah. And then, you know, like we talked
about last night, the well there is not

525
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:47,440
doing so great. Is that something that
the town and the fire department could

526
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:50,839
work on together budget-wise or is
>> I don't know.

527
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,599
» I mean, I it could be
I think, you know, the commissioners

528
00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:00,240
would have to look at their budget and
see.

529
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:06,000
» Yeah. I' I'd like to really have some
asurances that it we were not just

530
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:08,400
drilling another bad well like we did 10
years ago.

531
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:11,680
» Is anything
>> Well, I don't think drilling another

532
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:17,760
well is probably the option right now.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The plan or maybe one of the

533
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:23,680
options is to
put a couple 500

534
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:28,960
5,000 gallon like storage tanks
underground

535
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:34,800
and pump them slower.
You know, the pump would be higher and a

536
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:41,760
smaller pump. So, it wouldn't be sucking
up all all the mud and dirt that it is

537
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:46,960
now. And we would keep that full
and pump out those

538
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,400
» and could be pumped still
fast. So the the old pump is too big for

539
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,079
the well,
>> right?

540
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:59,280
» That pump would go into the tanks
>> and pump fast, but the tanks would have

541
00:41:56,319 --> 00:42:04,640
to slow fill with a smaller pump to keep
the sediment from getting in there. And

542
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:09,839
that would also improve the use on our
um vehicles

543
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,599
on all the fittings and everything that
all the stuff.

544
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,359
» Yeah.
>> The fire vehicles

545
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:19,760
» and the town's water trucks that fill up
there. Yeah.

546
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:25,040
So, is has there been anything done with
lot 17's well?

547
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:31,920
Weren't Wasn't he going to offer that?
>> He wants to um he wants to to put a big

548
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:39,079
pump in that well and uh and he's told
us that we could use that well.

549
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,079
» He told me it was also bad water.

550
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:45,280
» It's very hard.
>> Hard is probably better than silk. Yeah.

551
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:51,599
» Yeah.
>> Another possibility is the new owners of

552
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:54,400
Dave Bley's lot. They may and that's got
a big big well on it.

553
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,520
» Well,
>> and and then separate road into it. Um

554
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,079
possibility.
>> It's probably the best either.

555
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:07,079
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

556
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:18,480
So, does that pretty much cover what we
need for the I mean, I'm thinking I want

557
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:25,040
to be thinking at least I mean up to 10
years out there.

558
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:29,599
What about the building
as far as capital projects? I was

559
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:33,200
looking at these windows the other day
and they sure don't look very good.

560
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,319
» Would those be under capital yet or
would that just be maintenance and

561
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,839
repair?
>> The

562
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,680
cost of windows anymore. I
>> I mean, yeah, if we're placing all the

563
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:49,040
windows in the building, but we're just
doing if we're just doing like trim and

564
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:54,319
a few panes or I don't
>> Yeah, it looks like the windows to me,

565
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:58,800
but I mean, somebody else
>> Well, if that's 10 years out, maybe it

566
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,400
should be on the list
because we have two different capital

567
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,200
fund, you know, capital roads and then
capital general, right?

568
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:15,119
And Joelyn, do you know anything else on
the the building?

569
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:21,599
» Well, staining
the trim and those years time just a

570
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:22,560
general
>> Yeah.

571
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,720
» Yeah.
>> And the roof is okay.

572
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:30,480
» That would be capital.
>> Probably good for a while.

573
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:34,800
» I don't think it's a metal roof. We
don't have a a building maintenance

574
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,800
person long enough to even get out
there.

575
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:47,040
» It should be a mater's
what 20 now?

576
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,040
» Yes.
>> Yeah.

577
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,000
» Colleen,
>> I I didn't catch if it was already on

578
00:44:53,839 --> 00:45:02,160
the list, but a battery system for the
solar panels so the building could run

579
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:06,480
That would fall over the generator thing
that was listed, right?

580
00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:11,200
» Backup power for the building, whether
it be solar or

581
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:14,560
that can happen.
>> Already got the panels

582
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,599
» and it's quiet.
>> Yeah,

583
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:26,319
» it's expensive though.
>> Yeah, I mean I mean not considering

584
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:33,359
a whole solar array and doing a battery
too. I mean that's just one part of it.

585
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:37,200
So maybe, you know, Oh, things
>> you need a new inverter.

586
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:42,160
» Yeah.
>> Um, the lady Jocelyn, what was her name?

587
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:44,000
The lady I worked with the emergency
thing about getting

588
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:50,800
» Kate.
>> Kate, she mentioned that I think we were

589
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:55,599
on a list for possible grants
>> to apply for the batteries for the soul

590
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,480
next year.
>> Yeah. I don't know if the

591
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:01,599
» we talked about it, but it was just kind
of like

592
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,000
» she told me on our wish list when I was
>> Well, and some of these things may

593
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,240
happen in other ways.
>> Yeah.

594
00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:09,119
» And can fall off the list as they
happen, but yeah,

595
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,319
» it just really
>> that's like all of our projects on the

596
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:14,480
CIV list,
>> right?

597
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:17,839
» Recycle,
>> right? That have to happen some other

598
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,560
way.
>> Well, and that we did have on the CIV

599
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:27,760
list was the mower arm. And now we're
the roller compactor. We know we we have

600
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:32,079
on this list now. What about the mower?
What's up with like I mean I think we've

601
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:38,480
spent enough time working on the mower
that in 10 years I think it's going to

602
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:42,640
be it should be serviceable again.
>> The point I'm at after also testing it

603
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:47,599
with the grater. I mean granted each
time you do it you'll probably pull up

604
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:51,520
more asphalt. That worked pretty well
>> and you can use the side roads. You

605
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:55,760
might still need another attachment, but
rather than keeping like the whole

606
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,560
mower, tractor, everything else running,
I'd almost rather just have an

607
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:04,160
attachment that hooks up to one of the
other machines that we can't.

608
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:11,119
» One of the things is is that while it's
still running, might be worth something

609
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:15,119
» to sell. And once it's not running, it's
probably not worth much.

610
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:18,079
» So, do we want to put a mower attachment
on your list here?

611
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:23,200
» Potentially. Um,
>> I would think so.

612
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:27,280
» Yeah, it's I mean this year we're going
to be trying to go through most of the

613
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,160
easements with the grater. Next year
we're probably going to have to go over

614
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,480
it with the grater just to keep the
tumble weeds down. Um, just because

615
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:40,319
otherwise they'll be aggressive for
three years. Um, so the next two years

616
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,400
we're probably taken care of or at least
hopefully

617
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:47,400
» but yeah, it might be something to
consider.

618
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Um, what about the creek firework?
>> Yeah, that's the creek.

619
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,680
» That's the other big capital project
that should probably be on your list is

620
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,040
maintenance of our um
>> green belt

621
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:11,520
» green belt properties. I was approached
recently um by Devin Dixon who's working

622
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:17,280
the ranch
um and it is up against one of our lots

623
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:22,720
and he wondered what our plan was. You
know, like it's it's a huge fire hazard.

624
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:28,000
It's also
his bigger concern was the amount of

625
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:32,359
water that's getting choked out of
springs by the overgrowth.

626
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:38,079
So,
>> and the town's sitting on a bunch of

627
00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:43,079
property down there that we're not doing
anything with or about.

628
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:49,040
I don't know what that would be.
>> Yeah,

629
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:53,599
» there's a lot of permits involved in
doing anything down there. Right now I'm

630
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:59,040
kind of just touching base with them and
trying to see like what would be

631
00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:04,240
allowable or what required what can we
do without getting way into the weeds

632
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:08,559
with permitting because
it might be a bit of a permitting hassle

633
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,079
to essentially like take the loader down
there and just clear cut everything but

634
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,880
potentially going in place
>> which probably isn't the answer anyways

635
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,280
but
>> it it might be. I mean, if you want to

636
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,160
get rid of the overgrowth and you don't
want it to cost $2 million, that might

637
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,760
be
>> or poison it

638
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:28,559
» or poison it because that is
>> I mean, a lot,

639
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:33,760
you know,
>> why we hadn't poisoned it, why we don't

640
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:38,319
agree with the painting. He understood
not just spraying poison everywhere, but

641
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:42,640
you know, he did ask specifically about
the painting. I guess we just don't know

642
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:46,000
enough about it to know that we're not
poisoning somebody downstream that, you

643
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,640
know,
>> do they do that on their property?

644
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:54,559
» I don't know. But, you know, he also
didn't realize that a lot of the green

645
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,640
belt is privately owned and that's, you
know, and people with private property

646
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:59,640
down there do that.

647
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:09,520
» I did notice uh there are
Oh, it's a noxious weed that looks like

648
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:13,599
bamboo.
>> The giant reed

649
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:18,880
grass.
>> Yeah, the pond. And people are planting

650
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:25,599
it ornamentally in their yards.
>> And I just saw a huge patch of it down

651
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:32,559
there on the bottom of uh Lazarus, right
down in the creek.

652
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:36,160
» And people aren't going to
get rid of it on their property. It's

653
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:38,559
going to be all over that creek in just
a few years.

654
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:42,880
» It will. Yeah.
>> So, I I don't know how you get that

655
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,720
» the county we guy
>> the county weed guy has gone by. I know

656
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,839
one person's place and
>> you'll tell they have refused to get rid

657
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,079
of it.
>> They'll come and remove it for you.

658
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:59,760
» Well, they haven't and they know it's
there. I got a letter and they because I

659
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:04,480
have a pouch of it that's barely staying
alive and they left a letter and said

660
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,880
we're going to come and remove it and
you'll get a gift certificate to replace

661
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,680
it with something from some nursery.
>> You tell me that

662
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:16,720
» and then and then I never heard from
them again.

663
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:22,839
That was several years ago. So I don't
>> I remember

664
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,839
» and I didn't get any gift certificate.

665
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,880
» Maybe it just needs to be more of a
public outreach and I mean I've tried to

666
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:35,839
talk to the two people that I know of
that have it and one of the people they

667
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:39,839
had just planted, you know, and it was
doing so well and I said, "Don't you

668
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,880
know that that's like amazing?"
>> He's like, "No, no, it isn't." Then I

669
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,359
like don't let it seed.
>> Yeah,

670
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:50,720
» you're going to have to take it out. I'm
supposed to take it out.

671
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,440
» Well, that's why it's here. Yeah.
>> So, I mean,

672
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:59,839
» yeah.
>> Well, yeah. I mean, we got all kinds of

673
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:04,680
things growing down there. So, we should
probably put that on our list, huh?

674
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,680
» Yeah.

675
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:12,880
» And that's probably enough things on a
10ear list. That's a lot of stuff for

676
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,359
this small of a place.
>> It is a big

677
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,400
» So 10 years. So maybe we should put the
roof on if it's a 10 year plan.

678
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,480
» It's a 10 year out,
>> right? Windows and roof.

679
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:24,599
» Okay.
>> Yeah. Windows and a roof.

680
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:32,720
So, I mean, looking at all of that and
also looking and thinking about our

681
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:37,359
budgets over the past 10 years and what
we have, as I talked about during the

682
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:43,680
public hearing, have on average put away
between 5 and $40,000 a year,

683
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:48,480
I think
with the amount of thing with the amount

684
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:56,559
that it cost to chip Silas Valley Drive
11 years ago going up aund,000

685
00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:02,800
in that amount of time
and our side repairs costing what they

686
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:08,400
are 10 years from now, we can expect
that to be even more

687
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:14,400
and to be putting away a little bit
towards all of these other things at the

688
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:18,319
same time. I think it's reasonable
for these amount of projects, but also

689
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:23,599
knowing that we may not be able to do
all of them because we are just a small

690
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:27,520
community. I think $50,000 a year into
capital projects

691
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:33,440
is that's a good goal.
>> Reasonable for this small of a community

692
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:37,839
and for for the projects that are that
really have to happen.

693
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:43,520
I think asking more than that from
people is too much.

694
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,359
» Well, we might be able to do that with a
tax increase,

695
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:53,040
» right? But I'm talking that's a yearly a
yearly amount, right? that needs to be

696
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:56,880
budgeted for, not put in there if we had
a surplus or you know what I mean? It

697
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,640
has to happen in order for these things
to happen.

698
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:05,000
» Well,
this just has to become part of the

699
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
budget.

700
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:12,880
» So, do we want to adopt our plan for the
I mean, this could be amended at any

701
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:18,720
time.
Well, so I think what we ought to need

702
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:24,240
to do is uh edit this and read it and
put it fresh and then bring it back. I

703
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:28,319
don't think just talking about it and
>> without Yeah, I think we it should come

704
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:32,720
back.
>> We can do that.

705
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,960
» We're tableabling in it or dropping into
it?

706
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,960
» We can drop in it.
>> Okay.

707
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:46,960
» Okay. Okay, we'll move on to item. So, I
I'm a little Is this kind of backward?

708
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,280
» Yes, I thought so.
>> Let's flip Let's flip item seven and

709
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,880
eight.
>> I move that we uh change the order of

710
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:58,280
business and do seven
>> after eight.

711
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:07,040
» All in favor? I
>> Okay, we'll um do first item eight,

712
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:12,480
discussion and possible action regarding
resolution

713
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:18,319
2026-8 approving the fiscal year 2027
budget to include the tax increase.

714
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:24,880
» Okay, so I have a couple of things on
the budget. Um

715
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:31,520
there is a I did I did a couple of
different uh we have our actual budget

716
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:37,839
and in that actual budget we're actually
276

717
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:45,599
one two three 276,000
shy of our grants because of the cut of

718
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:52,880
our fiscal year. So, where we
anticipated having 535,000

719
00:55:49,280 --> 00:56:00,640
come in, we only had 225,000 come in.
So, on the proposed budget that you all

720
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:06,880
received, you'll see on the last page,
um, I did

721
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:11,920
put that in on government grants for
2027

722
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:19,839
as a late reimbursement for 2026,
>> right? Um, I need to put that also up on

723
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:26,079
government grants in the income. So, I'm
just letting you know that that's going

724
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:30,480
to be added to as we approve this, we
need to approve it

725
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:38,880
» that with that up there. Now, on this uh
final column is our basically our budget

726
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:44,160
for 2020, our actual budget for 2026.
if we would have gotten the grants

727
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:47,839
all at the same time, which actually
gives us a clearer picture of where we

728
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:53,760
are in our surplus.
>> Right?

729
00:56:48,400 --> 00:57:00,319
» So, um, we we did end up having a
surplus of 39,000

730
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:05,839
if we would have received our grants at
the right time.

731
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:10,160
So, just taking that into consideration.
Um, I do want to let you know once we

732
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:16,880
transferred
our final reimbursements from the EWP

733
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:21,440
uh back into our capital fund, we now
have 322,000

734
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:27,760
in our capital road,
>> which gives us enough to cover the chip

735
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:33,720
ceiling.
With the 71,000 we have budgeted for

736
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,720
2027,

737
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,440
we may even be able to afford having the
edges done.

738
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:42,799
» Well, we h we kind of have to do the
edges before we can chip seal.

739
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,240
» I'm just saying, you know, the chip
sealing came in the bid was what 225 or

740
00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:48,720
something.
>> Again, this is not a bid. This was more

741
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:56,640
of just like
>> an estimate. somewhere between

742
00:57:52,880 --> 00:58:00,319
» we have 100,000 171,000
to play with as far as the cost goes. So

743
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:04,960
I just
>> with the approved if we approve this

744
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:11,920
budget
I mean right now our as it sits right

745
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:17,440
now our capital roads has 322,000
so well which will put us just probably

746
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:23,440
just under what we need to do edging and
chip sealing both. But we have

747
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:31,200
» 71,000 going into capital roads in this
budget.

748
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:35,440
» We have put 76,000 in plasty road funds,
which looks to me like it's about 10

749
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:41,440
grand over what we're actually possibly
going to get because we've never gotten

750
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:46,319
anywhere close to $76,000.
>> I have it in the budget.

751
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:53,280
» Yeah, but we only last year we only got
66. The year before that we only got 60.

752
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:57,119
The year before that we got 61.
>> I know. But this this year we have our

753
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:03,040
tax increase.
>> But you don't get B class C roads.

754
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,480
» No, I'm talking about in the budget I
have set.

755
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:11,760
» No, I know. I know. But I'm just saying
there's there's this item in the budget

756
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:17,280
that we're planning on having that we're
not probably going to get. There's

757
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:23,319
$10,000 there floating.
That does that make sense to me?

758
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,319
» Well, um,

759
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:30,280
» actually,
>> which would just mean we'd only have

760
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,280
61,6

761
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,920
I I'm amazed that we didn't get more
money in class roads for cost of gas.

762
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:43,680
» Wow.
>> The more you pay for gas, the more tax

763
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:46,559
you get. So, why we were under
That's I'm still

764
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:52,000
» You can't afford to drive anymore.
>> I'm confused about why our class C roads

765
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:55,680
didn't come in higher than it did right
with the M because all year we've been

766
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:59,480
paying
>> way more.

767
00:59:56,319 --> 00:59:59,480
» I know.

768
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:07,599
» And I'm not so sure that we we're still
not going to get another payment for for

769
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:08,960
this last year because that happens a
lot.

770
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:15,839
» That's what we're waiting on, but I
thought we were well past that.

771
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:21,680
» Well, who knows? Who knows that that's
possibly not going to be accurate.

772
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:25,440
» Okay. Well, we
>> So, if it's not,

773
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:29,319
» we'll fill them in later anyway. So,
we'll figure that out.

774
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Also, um we don't need $16,000 in water
um training, but our staff training. We

775
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,240
only have four months left of that.

776
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:57,280
Like 4,000 a year was what we used to
pay John total for the whole year for

777
01:00:53,200 --> 01:01:02,319
himself to be the water agent.
We put all this extra in there because

778
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:05,880
he was going to be training Sarah until
the end of 2026.

779
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:13,040
» We aren't going to use all of that.
>> I don't want them thinking that that we

780
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:14,880
want them to either,
>> right?

781
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,599
» Trade.
>> No, you're right. I

782
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,599
And it didn't
>> overtime.

783
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:26,640
» Oh, okay. No, but they're still they're
both going to be working for for a half

784
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:31,000
a year
>> for four more months,

785
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,000
» right?

786
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:41,599
» So, you want to cut that down?
>> It makes sense to me that it wouldn't be

787
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:47,640
more than
like where where are we coming in

788
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:47,640
general here?

789
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:56,760
So we did spend a full eight last year.
Correct. More than eight. More than

790
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,760
eight.

791
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:12,680
I wouldn't go under 10 because or even
11 because we we'll end up

792
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:19,839
Yeah. I don't know.
>> Well, we can cut it to 11.

793
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:25,000
I wouldn't like to see it go over that.
>> We would need that much.

794
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,000
» I wouldn't either, but

795
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:48,280
which means if BNC doesn't or we could
even flip that around a little bit. Now

796
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:48,280
it seems like both Sarah and John's

797
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:54,280
salaries have been coming in around a
thousand a month

798
01:02:54,799 --> 01:02:57,799
» together.

799
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:10,000
This month John's was three something
and Sarah's was five something. Well, if

800
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:16,240
you want to cut down the roads to 66,
>> that makes the most sense to me.

801
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:21,119
» And then the water to 11,
that would mean I'd only be

802
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:26,520
putting
this at 5

803
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,520
15

804
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:41,839
56 into Capital Roads.
No. So wait, hang on a second.

805
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:46,400
» The part from the income you would
deduct from that.

806
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,839
» I would deduct it from the income, but
it's that also deducts it from the

807
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:54,400
capital.
>> But if we're moving something out of our

808
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:59,839
outgoing,
you don't have to deduct that part

809
01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:03,960
because that means we
>> Oh, right, Ken. Sorry.

810
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:35,039
No, it would be 15 less. You're getting
10 less in income and you're getting

811
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:39,400
you're spending 10. So it is five. So 60
let's say 65 then

812
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:42,839
» that

813
01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:49,480
61 + 566.

814
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,920
So that' be 66 in the capital funds
roads.

815
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:02,160
» Okay.
>> I mean I think that's still enough. So

816
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:05,760
it'll be 11,000 in water, 66,000 in
class roads, and 66,000 the capital

817
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,760
roads.
>> Okay.

818
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:16,240
And those were really the only big
things. I mean, I a lot of these things

819
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:20,559
are very like last year was kind of a
big one off because Dorier was trying to

820
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:26,240
save some money.
>> I mean, it's probably not a full year

821
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:31,359
that we only spent $63.95. Funny the 66
keeps coming up. I did want to point out

822
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:36,400
that our project which we had bid out at
994 came in at 928 which is a saving of

823
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:44,280
66,000.
So there it is again. Let's keep those

824
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:44,280
sixes rolling.

825
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,319
» Interested.

826
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:59,880
But did you want to reduce that
wise?

827
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:06,559
» Do you wrote
>> do your equipment and tools need to be

828
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:09,559
at 15 grand? Like we seriously spent
$96511

829
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:16,480
year before last and la this year we
spent $63.95.

830
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:20,400
» Well, some of that came down to the
confusion of

831
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,480
essentially larger pieces of equipment.
Would it come from

832
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:28,480
cuz some of it was preparing for that.
Does it belong in there or is it just a

833
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:32,319
capital
>> equipment and tools?

834
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:36,559
» Well, is equipment and tools covering
the larger equipment things?

835
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:40,480
» You mean like parts?
>> No, like if we get a compactor, does

836
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,839
that wind up in equipment and tools or
does that go under a capital?

837
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:48,720
» Right. It should go under equipment and
tools. It should

838
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:52,160
» unless it's over
$15,000,

839
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,160
» right? That's a capital expense,
>> you know.

840
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:58,720
» Okay.
>> So, yeah, I think that's

841
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:04,880
» so that's the smaller equipment.
>> You were also

842
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:08,559
I like to have those numbers in there.
If we need to use it, great. And if we

843
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:13,119
don't, you know, it's just going back
into the budget. So,

844
01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:17,119
» right. But I don't.
>> But wasn't there a big job for the

845
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:19,839
grater that you were put that in there
for?

846
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:24,960
» But does that fall under that or does
that fall under maintenance and repair?

847
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:29,839
» Because we bump that up for that.
>> Yeah.

848
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:34,000
Some of what the things fall under has
been a little confusing to me. So I mean

849
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:38,720
» So in my mind,
>> if it's just smaller pieces of equipment

850
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:42,319
and hand tools and things like that,
probably doesn't need to be 15,000.

851
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:46,480
includes a compactor or something else
like that. That's pretty it needs to be

852
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,520
» right. But those things are generally
always going to be a capital expense,

853
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:53,200
aren't they?
>> Or they're at least going to have to be

854
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:56,079
discussed with the town council because
they're all going to be well worth the

855
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:59,440
$600. So,
>> and it depends on the budget. What What

856
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:03,680
do we have in the budget? What do we
have to take out of capital? Can we do

857
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:08,720
we have it in our budget in roads?
>> I mean, there's going to be basic things

858
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:12,240
in roads that we don't need to have it
out of capital. If we have it in the

859
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:15,280
budget, that's what I'm saying. We have
it there, then we don't need it as

860
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:20,000
capital expense.
>> But if we don't need to have it in the

861
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:26,239
budget, I don't want to continually have
this hype budget that we're bumping into

862
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:29,440
capital when we are already planning on
budgeting for capital.

863
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,159
» Well, we haven't.
>> So, this is new that we're budgeting for

864
01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:35,520
capital.
>> I know. So,

865
01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:40,319
» so I want to get out of the habit of
over padding so that we have extra

866
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:44,480
because I think that
>> so the question is you're probably going

867
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:48,799
to be over padding somewhere and then if
things if you're essentially trying to

868
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,480
do the bare minimum for what you say on
your budget you're probably going to

869
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:57,279
have a higher capital budget and then
you pull out of that if something gets

870
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,600
weird towards the end of the year
because very often

871
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,799
» you can't always just pull out a capital
low. I mean,

872
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:08,480
» well, can you pull out of the capital
before it gets sent to C?

873
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:12,960
» No, it has to be a specific.
>> Well, then it's probably better to have

874
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,719
it in the budget away from the capital,
right?

875
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:18,000
» And then at the end of the year, you
shift it into capital, right?

876
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:23,279
» Capital is a one-way street and the
other one is not.

877
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:29,880
» That makes sense for now. If that makes
sense. But if every year we keep coming

878
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:29,880
in at less than $1,000.

879
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:37,920
» Okay, never mind.
>> This is one one year. Let's

880
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:42,799
» um
>> past years haven't been great, but I've

881
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:47,359
considered like getting uh pull behind
compactors and it's kind of like do we

882
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:51,600
just go with a larger machine? you know,
I mean, right now we're essentially

883
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:55,520
borrowing a personal vibratory plate
compactor that's pretty small and

884
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:59,040
doesn't really do the job that we should
be doing. So, that's kind of been one of

885
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:03,360
the things on there.
>> Oh, and if that's an equipment that

886
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,400
amount of money, then maybe that's
something you should be doing.

887
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,640
» Does anybody else have anything to say?

888
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:24,239
» I I I know. I Well, I had a question,
but it seemed like what we were doing in

889
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:29,920
the past with Capitol Roads was fine
until the culvert blew. Is that roughly

890
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:34,000
right? We were going to be able to chip
seal at the right time if we hadn't had

891
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:38,719
the culvert go out.
>> Well, yeah, we had money in there for

892
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:42,400
for that. Absolutely. But, you know,
>> well, and I think over the last couple

893
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:46,960
of years, it's been hard because we
budget for the road department and then

894
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:50,960
we're trying to save money for projects
and so they're not really spending

895
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,760
money. They're trying to save money
which we've needed. So, the last couple

896
01:10:53,520 --> 01:11:01,280
of years looking at their budget doesn't
really reflect what is

897
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,560
see that happening anymore. I want to
make sure that they understand that

898
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:08,159
their budget is for the maintenance they
need to do and that they it's not their

899
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,960
job to think about saving money out of
that.

900
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:11,440
» Yeah,
>> that's get work done budget.

901
01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:16,440
» That's our job.
>> It's our job to budget for capital

902
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,440
expenses.

903
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:26,679
» Well, that's what the residents want
is to see people out work on the roads

904
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:26,679
maintenance.

905
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:40,080
So if we do I mean I think this is fine
for this year

906
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:46,400
and when we look at this again next year
um obviously and when we amend this may

907
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:54,239
change but I think well we can figure
try to figure adding a line item for

908
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:59,120
capital of 50 grand
and figuring out in advance where that

909
01:11:56,719 --> 01:12:03,840
fits our tax rate so that we if we
needed to if we need to reduce it we

910
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:08,360
reduce it. I don't think we need to be
asking for more than that every year.

911
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:22,400
I think it's just an expectation that we
have to to set

912
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:26,400
cuz if we if we bump it up and we get
people thinking that oh we got all these

913
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:29,679
big ideas and we're going to do them. it
seem, you know, it's like the same

914
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,080
amount of money doesn't do the same
things anymore.

915
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:38,080
So, we're asking for more money just to
do the same things we've always done.

916
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:41,360
And people want to see well want to see
us doing more because they're paying

917
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:45,159
more.
>> It doesn't work that way.

918
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:53,440
» Well, we are getting things done.
>> We bought We I mean, you can look at the

919
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:59,520
budget of what we have gotten done. Oh,
yeah. We just spent $670,000

920
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,880
in the last two years on Capitol Road.
So

921
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:05,360
» yeah,
>> you know, you bringing it up like we're

922
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:08,080
not getting things done doesn't help the
situation

923
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,400
» more than that because we got the crater
in the back, the upper 80s water

924
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:15,360
crossing
>> water crossing and down here. So

925
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:18,560
people don't see us on their roads on a
regular basis. So they don't know that

926
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:23,239
they don't feel that we're getting
things the same things done that we know

927
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,239
we are.

928
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:31,600
Well, I just want to say I think this
year's budget is a freaking miracle that

929
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:37,280
we got it done. And thank you, Tori.
>> Yes. Thank you, Tori. True.

930
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:39,760
Messed it up.
>> And I'm not bringing these things up to

931
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,760
like be down.
>> Well, these kind of things. I mean all

932
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:47,760
of you know that's why I sent it to you
early before I ever

933
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:51,520
» asked I asked about the B road this
roads thing earlier and I thought we

934
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:52,640
were going to get another flight
payment.

935
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,199
» So did I
>> and we didn't. So I was like

936
01:13:54,320 --> 01:14:00,960
» and we we presented this two months ago.
>> I know.

937
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:05,040
» So but the water thing was presented to
you. You didn't bring that up and you

938
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:10,480
didn't bring up any of the other road
things. So

939
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:16,159
when I present it to you early
if you get back to me that

940
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:21,080
» not in the middle of a meeting when I
don't even have a calculator. So there

941
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,080
you go.

942
01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:26,480
» That's the balance.
>> Would somebody like to adopt this

943
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,800
budget?
>> I believe we adopt the budget.

944
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:34,640
» Hallelujah.
>> Second.

945
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,960
» Any further discussions?
All in favor?

946
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,120
» I.
>> Thank you, Pam.

947
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:46,719
» Thanks, Tori.
>> I'll do better next um year.

948
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:51,679
» Good. That'll be my last year. Be better
next year and I'll do my best.

949
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:55,520
» You're doing great.
>> Okay. We'll move backwards to item

950
01:14:53,840 --> 01:15:01,120
seven, discussion and possible action
regarding resolution 2026-7, approving

951
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:04,480
the certified tax rate.
>> I move we approve the certified tax

952
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:08,159
rate. Second.
>> Further discussion.

953
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:12,159
All in favor?
>> I I.

954
01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:16,880
» Item nine, discussion and possible
action regarding approving pluck

955
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:20,600
selection process language amendments to
ordinance 2026-2.

956
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:29,679
So Lori uh is on tonight. She went
through this and also updated

957
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:34,960
um references to code that were
outdated. there was a reference to a

958
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:39,520
grommet code that was outdated
and then added the language for the um

959
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:42,920
selection to go through the town council
and public opinion

960
01:15:43,679 --> 01:15:51,440
» and I the alternates and
>> yeah I had a couple edits on it

961
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:55,120
» did you um want to point those out
>> yeah

962
01:15:53,440 --> 01:16:00,560
the
in that fourth whereas it's still

963
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:06,320
talking about the mayor shall interview
each candidate to establish ability to

964
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:11,760
perform the duties of the commission.
>> Well, that's what

965
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:17,360
» you want that out of there.
>> So, no, the old or it's just a reference

966
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:20,000
to what the old ordinance what the
process was. Yeah.

967
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:26,719
» Okay.
>> Is that makes sense? And then um in

968
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:32,080
section two
uh I was think we should put um the

969
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:38,239
alternates in there. Members shall be
appointed to the commission or as

970
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:45,040
alternates by the town council. We
haven't addressed how the alternates are

971
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:47,840
going to be in that sentence. Just
curious.

972
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:55,199
» Lori, didn't you address where the
alternates were in another section?

973
01:16:51,600 --> 01:17:01,440
um you know the current code didn't
reference the alternates so I think

974
01:16:58,239 --> 01:17:09,120
that's um totally fine to add the
language as Jocelyn suggested

975
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:13,199
» I can double check
>> I think it was just up to us to to

976
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:20,080
either use or not use alternates
>> right yeah but we want the alter same

977
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:22,400
process
>> yes Yeah,

978
01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:26,239
» but it says before that, Joselyn, it
says the commission shall consist of

979
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,440
five regular members and two alternate
members,

980
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,320
» right?
>> And then it says how the appointments

981
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,199
will be made.
>> Okay, but the alternates need to be

982
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:38,000
approved.
>> So just say members and and alternates

983
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:42,719
shall be appointed to the commission.
>> Just add that in there. And then the

984
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:45,440
only other thing was on that other page
that's not

985
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:47,920
» the clerk.
I don't do that.

986
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:52,560
» Right.
Let's make sure that's clear.

987
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,120
» Very clear.
>> Yeah.

988
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,280
» Is this a whole new ordinance?
>> It's an amended or amending the

989
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,760
ordinance
>> because it says 2026-2.

990
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:03,600
» Yeah.
>> This is um

991
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,640
» that's the
>> a new ordinance.

992
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:12,080
» This is 2026. So, we're getting a whole
new ordinance number, not just an

993
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:16,719
amended old ordinance.
>> I could supersede it.

994
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:23,760
» Yeah. I don't know how you all prefer to
do it, but you uh as you can see the

995
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:28,960
this ordinance just amends the old one.
So you you know I don't I don't really

996
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:32,960
remember exactly how you do that, but
this wouldn't create a new ordinance. It

997
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:38,239
just as you can see where it's
underlined adding text and then the

998
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:43,440
strike through is deleting the text. So
my my suggestion was when I sent this

999
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:49,040
over is to say you can keep your old
ordinance and just note that it was

1000
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:54,560
amended by ordinance number 26. I don't
know are you on your first ordinance of

1001
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:56,719
the year? Is it 2601 or 2602?
>> Okay.

1002
01:18:56,159 --> 01:19:02,239
» Yeah.
>> But we usually we usually keep the old

1003
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:05,679
ordinance number and just say amended.
>> I I know this because I put them on the

1004
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:10,880
website so I need to know what the name
of it is. Like if we were to revise the

1005
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:19,120
fence ordinance now, it would still be
uh what is it 2001-3 or whatever it is

1006
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:25,280
only amended. So this is a whole new
ordinance number. So would you would

1007
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:30,239
have to retract the old ordinance or
>> Well, so so let me ask you then,

1008
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:36,159
Colleen. I I don't What do you pass?
What what what do you pass now to amend

1009
01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:41,760
an old ordinance? a new you pass an
ordinance or you pass a resolution.

1010
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:46,239
» Either one. We just amend it. Like 85-3
is from 1985

1011
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:49,600
and we just amend it constantly,
>> right?

1012
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:54,320
» But it's the same ordinance number.
>> So technically, we should just be

1013
01:19:51,440 --> 01:20:01,040
amending this as its original number and
then say that this ordinance supersedes

1014
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:03,679
the one dated whatever the last one was.
>> Yeah, we don't.

1015
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:06,880
» And I could do that. I don't think
that's how we've done it up to now.

1016
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:12,080
Yeah.
>> Okay. Yeah. It's a little confusing. I

1017
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:16,960
mean, I don't want to change your
process, but you know, technically

1018
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:21,679
you're passing.
I mean, I don't know. I

1019
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,960
I've never seen it done that way before.
So, that's why I'm kind of struggling.

1020
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:28,719
It doesn't It doesn't really matter. You
need to pass an ordinance. What you

1021
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:36,880
number it is potentially up to you. If
you don't find that numbering format

1022
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:39,920
confusing, um, if it's working for you,
then I don't want to completely change

1023
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:44,239
your process. But you, you know, the
council

1024
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:48,080
does need to pass an ordinance. What you
number it, as long as you've got a

1025
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:53,679
system that works for you, I'm I'm okay
with that. So, you can

1026
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,640
you would just need to note that tonight
when you're passing it, that has a

1027
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:00,719
different number than that's what's on
the document.

1028
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:05,280
One of the reason, one of the reasons
we've done it this way is that sometimes

1029
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:09,920
these ordinances are cited in other
ordinances and if we go change the

1030
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:14,640
number when we do a new one that amends
it, then we have to go sort figure out

1031
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:18,320
if it's listed anywhere else in another
ordinance.

1032
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:24,640
» We can't find all those instances like
our our biggest ordinance is 85-3.

1033
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:30,640
Again, it's from 1985. If we gave it a
new number every time we amended it,

1034
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:36,800
that would be a morass,
>> right? And and I think that yeah, in the

1035
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:41,280
m the other places, yeah, obviously
codifying everything makes it easier

1036
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:45,440
because then when you do update
something, you just make the update

1037
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:50,000
throughout the but I understand what the
issue is. I So

1038
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:56,000
» I think then tonight you just need to
make it clear you're you're passing

1039
01:21:53,520 --> 01:22:00,480
Uh h how would you then describe it
then? An ordinance. What are you passing

1040
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:05,000
tonight? Ordinance
number what?

1041
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,000
» 2006-3.

1042
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:12,560
We're amending ordinance. Yeah.
Passing it as an as amended.

1043
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:17,520
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1044
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,760
» Is that done as an ordinance or as a
resolution?

1045
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:22,719
» As an ordinance.
>> We're amending an existing ordinance.

1046
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:26,880
Yes. Right. I
>> mean it says an ordinance amending an

1047
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:32,320
ordinance. Should should we say a
resolution? Should it be

1048
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:37,840
» No, we would be passing an ordinance
passing ordinance 26 2006-3

1049
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,760
» amended.
>> Amended

1050
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:41,440
» this date and
>> 2026,

1051
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:48,639
» right?
>> Yeah. And then you say, and then this or

1052
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:54,400
this supersedes ordinance 2006-3
dated whenever this last the previous

1053
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:59,120
one was that it's been superseded. You
just put that title.

1054
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:04,199
» Yeah, no worries. Thanks.
>> Yeah, no worries. Whoever is going to

1055
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,199
make that motion,

1056
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,120
» that's what I was thinking.

1057
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:18,360
» I move that we pass uh ordinance 20 two
20006-3

1058
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:28,480
amended.
>> No,

1059
01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:31,040
» 2026. 2026 2026.
206

1060
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:34,040
» 206
>> 2006-

1061
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:44,880
» We're We're passing.
I move we pass ordinance 20006-

1062
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:51,159
03 amended
by

1063
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,159
on this date in 2026

1064
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:57,520
an ordinance establishing planning and
land use commission and designating land

1065
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:01,920
use and appeal authority.
>> I'm probably seconded.

1066
01:24:00,639 --> 01:24:05,639
» That was really good.
>> Any further discussion?

1067
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:15,400
All in favor?
>> I OMG.

1068
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,400
» Why was it so

1069
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:24,159
» All right. Now we are in item number
10. Uh discussion and possible action

1070
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:30,800
regarding approving amendments to
ordinance 85-3

1071
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:33,520
chapter 4 section 4.2D regarding farm
stands.

1072
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:38,800
» Okay. So, we have a problem because this
is a

1073
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:41,840
» typo on the agenda. It's saying 83-3.
>> Yeah, it's a typo.

1074
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:44,719
» Really? Oh, yeah.
>> It's 85-3.

1075
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:48,880
» Yeah,
>> sorry.

1076
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:55,639
» Got carried away.
>> I think I wrote 85-2 in an email to

1077
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,639
somebody the other day.

1078
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:07,679
» Yeah. Have 85-3 imputed. Great.
So, I'm gonna have to um

1079
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:10,719
I can't vote on this because this came
up because me

1080
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:16,080
» you're abstaining.
>> I'm abstaining. I can answer questions

1081
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:20,480
about anything that led up to this, but
>> So, we're just removing D.

1082
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,600
» Are we reumbering?
>> No, we're not removing.

1083
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:27,840
» We're amending it
>> underneath.

1084
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:31,679
» So, you're adding two C. one stand for
the display of sale of agriculture and

1085
01:25:29,679 --> 01:25:35,120
livestock products raised in Castle
Valley.

1086
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:39,679
» You're not saying on that premise,
>> but it's just in Castle Valley. And it

1087
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:41,440
could be out of the Castle Valley town
boundary.

1088
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,800
» Yeah.
>> Castleton.

1089
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:49,679
» Okay.
>> Like if I was if my buddy from Castleton

1090
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:54,280
wanted to come down and bring their
vegetables to my farm stand.

1091
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:07,199
Well, I move that we approve
amendments to ordinance 85-3, chapter 4,

1092
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:10,520
section 4.2D, regarding five farm stands
as presented.

1093
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:19,800
» Um, further discussion,
all in favor?

1094
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,800
» I'll abstain.

1095
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:32,719
» All right. Item, hang on. Go. as fast as
I can. Item 11, discussion and possible

1096
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:38,719
action regarding resolution 2026-9
adopting the 2025 Castle Valley hazard

1097
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:44,239
mitigation plan. As we promised, we're
presenting to you our work from the past

1098
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:47,840
year on hazard mitigation planning.
>> Only a year.

1099
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:51,400
» We only spent a year doing it.
>> Felt like two.

1100
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:59,440
So, we already discussed that we feel
that it's valuable for us as a town to

1101
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:04,719
do this process whether or not it's a
FEMA adopted plan anymore or not.

1102
01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:12,560
» We will plan on rejoining the regional
plan. Um, because the FEMA is making it

1103
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:17,600
almost impossible for towns this size to
to keep up with their planning

1104
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:21,040
requirements.
And they even say that in their planning

1105
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:26,000
tools that they pretty much think you
should be hiring a contractor to do your

1106
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:28,960
planning.
>> Easy to say

1107
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:33,360
» ching chain, right?
>> Yeah.

1108
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:36,880
» Well, no, they'll help you, you know,
with a grant to do it or whatever. But

1109
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:42,159
yeah,
>> it wasn't the planning so much as it was

1110
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:46,960
the formatting of the application
>> of the FEMA stuff. Yeah.

1111
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:50,000
» They made it impossible.
No, I think it's important that we do

1112
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:54,000
this planning and I think we've had a
lot of good come out of it. I mean, all

1113
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:59,199
the big things we've been doing, the low
water crossings, all the stuff that

1114
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:05,440
» it was a really good document. It was
the best one we've ever done.

1115
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,840
» Everybody that did
a lot of work.

1116
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:25,440
Somebody else want to move or show? Uh,
>> sure. I uh move that we approve

1117
01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:31,360
resolution 20 26-9,
a resolution adopting the 2025 Cal

1118
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:38,159
Valley Utah hazard mitigation plan.
>> I'll s discussion. All in favor?

1119
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:43,440
» I.
Item 12, discussion and possible action

1120
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:48,440
regarding the road department purchase
order for a CAT transmission oil for

1121
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:48,440
$2449.70.

1122
01:28:51,040 --> 01:29:00,400
This over my budget over
we approve the purchase for the oil

1123
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:05,520
» as presented. Second.
>> All in favor? I I

1124
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,080
do not need a close meeting. So, we'll
move on to item 14, payment of the

1125
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:13,920
bills.
>> And I need to add a late call, which was

1126
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:21,960
my fault because Dorier did get it to
me. Um, he he paid with his credit card

1127
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:21,960
at Tractor's Supply for $335.71

1128
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:27,360
for what was it for?
>> Tag oil.

1129
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:33,120
» Tag oil. Yeah,
>> that says the motion.

1130
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:40,040
» I'm adding that to get paid back.
>> 345. What? 3351

1131
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,040
» 71.

1132
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:50,360
» I move we pay the bill including the
reimbursement door for $335.71.

1133
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:58,159
» Any further discussion? All in favor?
>> I I

1134
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:02,239
» That's all we got.
>> Thanks everybody.

1135
01:30:00,639 --> 01:30:04,480
» I think I'm getting spoiled with short
meetings.

1136
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,120
door.
>> Yo, bye.