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We call the select board meeting for September 14th to order at 707.

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Very macadir. Would you leave us in the lunch class?

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I'd like to introduce to you the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, individual,

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they believe in justice or all.

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Do you need a motion to approve the agenda? Make a motion to approve the agenda for September 14th, 2026.

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Second. Any discussion? I'll do your magic.

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Any discussion?

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All in favor? All in favor. Make a motion to approve the minutes for August 24th, 2026.

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Second. Any discussion?

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Yes.

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Did you go first?

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I've got a couple.

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Well, I don't know who's a question mark, because either Ed Lever on the Trump.

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Down under approval of minutes, 1, 2, 3, 4.

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Whereas as page 7, like a Bob Seale, Ron Mayor, they've got an extra thing in there.

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It says it's changed from two, but it didn't change.

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This will be M steel to our steel.

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Okay. And very bottom line on this page, the word change is C-H-A-N-G-E, space-D,

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and

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In the middle of one to the third paragraph down, this is Mike Kamajones, instead of Mike

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period drones,

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on page 3, down to the police department,

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when we're talking about the

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the camper at the old mini-cloth course on Route 30. It should say belongs to a friend of

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Howard and Christine and has permission to be there. He will be leaving. Cross it off.

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Should be in September instead of whatever I cross off.

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Should I say it will be leaving in September?

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Since we're there right now,

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I should say Howard and Christine Smith,

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not just Howard and Christine.

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Okay.

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On page four,

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under A,

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A-Q-U-T-V,

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is vast.

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The A-S-T,

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not just the A-S,

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but it's a association of snow travelers,

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under

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town lands, town four, that very first sentence. We've got Anne Ray, crossed the

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hurry off and just recommends,

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and one, two, three, four lines down, is it really

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married, jury, jury, or is it her? Very, very, very, there's been three, there's four

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Yeah, the four places where that is, going down one, two, three lines,

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the C on co-teachers should

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be singular,

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and going way to the bottom, the fourth up, tree warden should be small letters.

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down on the last paragraph or town of beautification is says

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they were donated by Brown's

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cord and set a quarry.

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That's actually the name of the quarry.

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Brown's quarry is that this is what they have.

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I'm Ronman

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on P6, the first paragraph on Q3 for 5 down, it serves our national and paid.

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I think it should be serves our nation and then on the same paragraph, the very last line, the newly planted daily.

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I think it should be newly planted beds daily

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down under Crystal Beach.

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The last sign, it should be if, is should be R.

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I'm sorry, Mary, what should we do?

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Crystal Beach, the first, the last sign.

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This is if the what wells, it should be if the wells.

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And because wells is plural, it should be our and said it is,

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down under the snack shack.

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I think now that I look at it, maybe it's Nick to get things short up.

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Need to get Nick to get things short up before the weather destroys it anymore?

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Yeah, that's what I put, but I didn't know if it was Nick or whatever.

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Under unauthorized activities, the second line is his, he had not, he had not so pleasant exchange.

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Who's he?

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Mike Jones.

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Going down one, two, three, four.

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more or the it starts. The didn't, it should be bay didn't.

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And down three lines up,

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it said, our brown, I believe it should be M brown.

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Under public works, the third line down, toll should be two,

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under replacement of the trackless, the

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third line down, it says.

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He stated, it should be, he stated, he has been in contact,

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the third line up, steel is felt wrong.

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The second line up, it should be,

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instead of buy.

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I hated English enough.

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replacement options, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10 lines down

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where it says HP Fairfield that sells truck. I think it should be trucks.

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Next to the last

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line on that same paragraph instead of S steel, I think, that should be R steel.

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The very last line, or the very last two lines, is as M Jones stated, this facility

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then stated this I think stated this is put in twice it should be only once

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okay on page 8

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, oh

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let's see

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it says our steel state of why can't we have

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That's not where I want to go down further.

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Where it starts, the body be stretched.

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I think B should be crossed out of there.

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It makes a sentence about it.

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Under boards, committees, and commissioners,

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the third line down, it says A, H, S should be

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has

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the next line down.

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there's the T equals R cones. T equals should be eliminated.

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.

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We've got AND and it should be any ANY,

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unless 1, 2, 3, 4, 4 more lines down,

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it's this

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C-brown correct, I think it should be agreed

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on page 9,

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the second paragraph, 1, 2, 3, 4,

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It says, our combs say that he Charlie Brown and Mike Jones walked the property and he

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believes the pit is in compliance rather than is not. Is that correct?

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No, what's written is correct. Not is right. It's not.

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the 200 feet of the property line, so he's not in compliance with the town zone.

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Okay.

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Regulations as they exist.

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All right.

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I can't read my writing.

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The next paragraph is which chapter Laura, the third line down.

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She does not want to bring as we are considering this.

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I think she said she does not.

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She does want to point out as we are considering this.

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Down in the last paragraph, one, two, three, four line sound.

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It starts, they do know instead of do not.

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And further on there, it's this,

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they are natives,

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promoters, skips, where you're glad I'm skippin' them for commas,

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on page 10,

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second line,

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under town plan, update some progress the second line. This is our steel and with

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7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,

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where it says acid sheet if she got the form, I think it should be if she got the coffee and no she hadn't.

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The next slide down forward was written twice in a row.

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I'll say one, two, three more down.

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This governor stated that there is no version 24, instead of looks like not version or not.

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they know what are it so

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down

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 up from that paragraph. It should be deep, and exception date extended.

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This is dated,

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third line up, it has B extended, instead of Ben extended,

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now on your

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Parks and Recreation, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, this is page 11, 6 down,

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we would have to put

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in the building, budget,

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down on page 12,

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half half for all the works and things,

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so

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because the pairs of rackedess starts our coupons, the third line down is got thank you

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twice, most of all, thank you, thank you, that's it.

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I'll use that all mine.

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Anything else?

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Oh, I got it.

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I don't think I got it, man.

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Uh, I have two under pledge of allegiance.

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I didn't lead that. I believe it was the first chief.

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Oh, who led it?

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Who was it?

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Who was it? It was the chief.

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I think you're right.

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And on page 12 under action items.

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Talk to a while about stretching the 2013 strike the word single

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and actual, it's a tandem.

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Can't be bold.

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Can you as far as I can, sir?

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Axle's fell down.

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Axle's fell down.

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Axle's fell down anyway.

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So I'll strike those two.

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That's it.

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I'll go back because that reminded me under replacement options.

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We'll take a page 7, an actual sculptor, we're going to get in there to

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underreplace an option.

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It's 2015's single-axle bumper.

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We'll do some more else.

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That's it.

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It's up.

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All of there.

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Hi.

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This is comments.

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It was not on the agenda.

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We're not going to move.

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I'll see the hands up on some.

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We're going to move on to public works.

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I would have pardon.

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Is Jeff on?

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Was that the lower left one?

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I can't read the name.

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It is.

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Hi Jeff, you're up.

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How are you?

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Diabulous.

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Right.

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The report on Moscow, Britain, the whole world.

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Nice lead better road, Britain, can't completely.

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Moving on to the Korean-American aid project tomorrow,

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out for road.

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We're good.

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Brown-Farcent, called pre-boiled equipment will be delivered in about a month, so that's

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Project & Start.

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And you guys should have some documents for paving a live driving booth.

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I don't think I've got anything on paving a live driving booth.

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No, I don't need it.

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I didn't.

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We had to be equipment rental in 10 years.

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So on the agenda, Jeff, the next item up specifically would be the gravel road maintenance

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update.

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So do you have any words of wisdom you'd like to share with us on that?

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No, they're all solid, we're doing some touch up here and there, but for the most part, we're

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good to go. Okay. So the ground fire pavement.

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We've got to talk about schedule or

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scheduling and approving the rental. Now that was a cat 315. I assume there's a

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bad word, but I assume that's a larger excavator.

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So this project is going to

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require a piece of equipment that we currently don't own.

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So the $7,900 cost is that going to be absorbed into the cost of this project.

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Yes, that will include the estimator of pump or to distribute water when we're working on the project

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and jumping jack for a new passion.

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Okay, because that's that's made cost is 18,000 so that'll be including the equipment rental

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The brown farm road large corporate failure is estimated cost is 18,000 dollars

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That's the like you it. I cannot recall what the culvert was

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That was we found that option for a while I would think that that I feel low

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Do you have any words of wisdom like

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This job is going to take several days, so it makes more sense for us to rent that machine

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into a higher local contractor with the machine like that to come in for a day.

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Yes, it's probably going to take us close to three weeks.

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I talked to Josh Cohen from Mountain View.

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We would have looked at the site.

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He said he was going to be around 30 or 40.

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Okay.

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I guess this makes more sense.

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So, in-house is, you know, my Smith will be operating a piece of equipment, and we already have, you know, everything else we can do in-house for some of these over here.

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Okay, I don't have any questions in. I think this as well as Mike Skillset.

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I said I think this is well within Mike Skillset. So we need a motion for this.

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We do. We would make a motion to approve the sum of $7,900 to Milton Rants for the equipment needed for the Brown Farm Road COVID Project.

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second. Any more discussion on this?

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All in favor? All right.

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So, we don't have anything for

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paving and line striping Jeff. So, can you give us the high points and then we'll figure

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out if we need to take any action tonight?

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Do you not currently have them up, so that's something Mike and I get to mount work out.

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I had K-5 and Green Mountain would have been the two to choose from, so I don't have any numbers.

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I'm looking right now while your guys are talking for, I got, I got the two from Green Mountain.

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Was that something we need to take action on tonight?

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I'm kind of hard to do.

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I defer that to Jeff because I'm not sure what they painted not total before, so I'm not sure.

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I don't think it's, it's just their availability that's going to be that.

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I'm not sure what he's worked out with him.

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What are they available?

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How time-censitive is this Jeff?

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Persona has,

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I think the college wants to get some down.

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Just some crosswalks, but

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putting plows to him.

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Nobody wants to hear it, but we put plows to him sooner than life.

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So next meeting, I'll get some numbers and we can wrap it up.

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You'll have it at our next meeting in two weeks.

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Yes.

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Great.

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So we're going to table that for now and move on to Highway Safety Improvement Grant for

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Gardero replacement.

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Yes, we were awarded a request for a car rail as well as a Mother Safety Improvement

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options, the grants will be for the car rails on West Castleton up by Glen Lake, as well

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as

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well as the peak road

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for the bridge, better even without the old junkie ones there

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now, up at Glen Lake is the section where people end up in the lake when their headed

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is that where you're putting them?

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But the renauer bike went like that.

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Back then, like.

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Yes, that'll be a giant stretch right through there.

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Closer to the Scotch else I've run into Coriel.

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Yep, and short segments where they go into the lake.

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Didn't that happen this year?

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Yeah, not that long ago.

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Yeah, I'm seeing how it works last year as well, and we also have

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up there for all the advancements as well.

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The plan this is replacing the old ones.

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This grant doesn't pay for putting in ones that weren't there already.

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So, there are some dangerous spots closer to going like that.

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We'd have to do on our own at this point.

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They're not part of it.

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They can't be done through the grant.

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Does this grant require a match?

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The highly safety note.

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I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to speak in that one.

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care number. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. I don't recall this all required

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a match because it's a safety grant. I don't think it requires a match. Good.

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Oh, I think what do you say, Mike, can I like 50,000, 49,000? 49,000? 49,000, I believe.

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This is happening this fall. I think we're waiting for a confirmation of the signature

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that we have accepted and I'm maybe able to get Lafayette out here this year, which would

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nice. And who wrote this grant? Jeff. Jeff, did? Nice work, Jeff. Oh, thank you.

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Saving the tell money. I did sign, I did sign it, so I went back to the state for accepting

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of the total acceptance. Trying to steal Jeff's thunder by saying you were part of a

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two-sided. I nailed it in, does that count? Well, the one person that won't fall on the

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that we don't know about because it never happens or it's still worth it if that makes any sense.

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You know you put the guardrails in they're going to go off the road where the guardrails aren't

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anyway. Yeah, well at least they won't go in the lake we hope. Well we can hope.

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All right let's talk about plow blades and shoes. You have a recommendation I see Jeff.

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If this is all for biking, typically a couple of weeks ago that has been significantly

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cheaper in the past, but unless you're up in this year, but biking provides the blades

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that we run on in the majority of the trucks that we've been buying and they're definitely

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not giving me cheaper.

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I think carbide jump 200% this year.

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I would

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make a motion to approve the sum of 7,919 dollars in one sense to

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wiking for the plow blades and choose that we need a plow cutting edges.

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Second. Any more discussion on that?

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All of favor?

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Hi.

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So now we got to talk about dead trees.

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So at the moment, specifically, I think on time street cross from Mr. Hattiff's

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Ranges have been falling, Peter contacts me three years ago and kind of been talking about this.

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And I think it's come to a point that it's time to take a section out of there.

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I don't know if Mr. Vultus is in the audience this evening.

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He is not.

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All right.

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I will speak for Mr. Wolves that I believe he did fill out the second form and I spoke of him

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and due to branches, he dropped him up.

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On to the road, Mr. Hattiches, concern for public safety as people walk their dogs and walk up and down the street, that it is probably as a good time to have these removed, Tim Woodard, the tree on her property, she has agreed to pay $400 towards the removal of the tree.

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Can we preface it with that?

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A letter was sent to her asking her considered to remove it and then Jeff had a subsequent

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conversation with after the letter and she offered up 400, so we tried to get her to tell

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it was her tree and pay for it but she came back with a counter offer.

324
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I'll be honest with you.

325
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I don't remember exactly what our hazard tree policy is anymore.

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Well the state says that the property owner owns the tree. I can't we changed it and I don't

327
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remember what we changed it to to be honest with that forgotten at this point.

328
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So what I came down to was acknowledging that trees in the right away are the terms

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responsibility if they pose a threat to infrastructure or public safety.

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So, in this case, if the tree is interrupted by the way, although it is on Timwood's property,

331
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the town has the obligation to remove the tree if the homeowner will not, or the property owner will not.

332
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Thanks, Jeff.

333
00:32:05,570 --> 00:32:07,290
Well, we certainly don't want to see anybody injured.

334
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It's just a slippery slope, because this is one of, I don't know, 5,000, 10,000 trees in the town

335
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fall in this perusal of being in the right away and expensive to remove.

336
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I'm reading the policy right now and does say the towns responsible is limited.

337
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How's it just trees that are located on town property owned by the town and

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pose a direct threat to the town, town owned infrastructure or public safety?

339
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So located on town land, not in the town right away, correct?

340
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And then it goes on, hazardous trees may be identified during routine inspection by the town staff

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of tree warden, prioritization, the town will prioritize the assessment, potential mitigation

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of hazardous trees based on the fallen criteria.

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High priority immediate risk to public infrastructure safety, then medium risk, moderate

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risk to could worsen without intervention and low priority in minimal or no current threat.

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But it does go back to

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Sands

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Proper owners are responsible for all trees on their private property all trees in the right of way adjoining their property

348
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Yeah, so that's not us

349
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It is a lot of other

350
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Verbi's in there, but it's that's that's the gist of it

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So in wrong numbers the other $5,000 dollars of this

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best of it, our counter responsibility.

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I think one of this one, Jeff was just talking about the top on the pine

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street by Blue Gate,

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but I'm not going to speak for my, I don't know if he's asking,

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because I think when I talk to him, we weren't asking for approval on all of those.

357
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Just a talk.

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Is that correct, Jeff?

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So just so I had leaders just to price out living the road just because

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so by blue gate and across

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we pulled 14, specifically across the blue gate, the 1300, that is the tree that I received

362
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call for Peter this morning that more branches have fallen down the road.

363
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That would be the

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train that's falling. That was

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different. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we got on there. So that's the

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part says a pine tree by Blue Gate. The 1300s that's the tree that has been on the three

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a year ago?

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00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:17,730
Well would our hazardous tree ordinance appear that's Kim

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Woodard's tree to cut down not ours since it's not on town property it's just in

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the town right away.

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I agree with market that's a slippery slope we start for

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there's a lot of them that's why that's why we change the ordinance and improve

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the ordinance.

374
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No you can't set a precedent. So what's the pleasure of the

375
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I think that we should maybe contact the Vermont League and get their opinion.

376
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How do you feel about that?

377
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,160
Like, I'll ask for anything.

378
00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:06,660
I don't know if we get back for an answer, but we won't get an answer back for an answer.

379
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:10,420
I mean, I don't want to be reckless with public safety.

380
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,740
Branches are falling in the road, but at the same time, I mean, you look at this.

381
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It's $1,300 a tree, boy, we could spend a quarter of a million dollars next summer taking

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00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:27,800
care of all those trees.

383
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,960
So, Jeff, what this tree is up on Pine Street, where is it up near Mr. Haddock's house?

384
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Yeah, I guess it's a ride across.

385
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,000
I'll pick it right up there next time I'm out of the boat.

386
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,280
We got a picture from someone on East Hubbyton Road of a tree that is equally as bad.

387
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I came down by itself.

388
00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:50,580
There we go.

389
00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:52,820
There's one right across your road from my house.

390
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,860
Gravity does pull down usually, so.

391
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,660
There's one across your road from my house.

392
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,740
It's been falling down for 20 years and luckily it's never hit anybody.

393
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,120
It's probably less dangerous now because it keeps coming down, but they're everywhere.

394
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,560
Not the same situation where now as we were asked to cut that tree down,

395
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not that long ago and we said no because it's not our responsibility.

396
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,540
Yeah, I mean we have to be really careful that we're consistent.

397
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I can't pick and choose.

398
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,380
We've got to do one or the other.

399
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
So it's a consensus of this board to take an election on this?

400
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Yes.

401
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No action.

402
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:29,960
I don't think that we-

403
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We should review the ordinance and see if there is anything in there about requiring the property on every movie tree. I can't honestly, I can't remember the ordinance off the top of my head, so I'd have to review it again.

404
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,680
It says in here, as long as it doesn't obstruct the view, like if your planet were people can't see,

405
00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:16,960
I'm going to say no because I don't want to have to deal with them.

406
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,640
Well, I'm not talking about the third year.

407
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,740
Well, let's just stay right away. That may have a whole separate set of rules.

408
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:24,900
That's a really meaning me.

409
00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:30,880
I want to ask a person who owns land in town with a town right away.

410
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,580
Well, I have a...

411
00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:35,220
They planned a tree there, or a bush, or a shrub, or a...

412
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:38,780
Well, there's a whole bunch of trees on the bank in front of my house,

413
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,000
it's in the town, right away, that the squirrel's planted.

414
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They had a rather mature white oaks of red oaks down,

415
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I assume the squirrel's planted them, and they weren't there when I bought the house,

416
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so whose responsibility is that?

417
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,460
I don't know, every tree is planted by a critter, or the wind, or whatever.

418
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If a landowner has a right away across their property, it is the landowner's responsibility to make sure that that right away is clear.

419
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:09,320
That is correct, Mark.

420
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The right away from the town is only to protect public safety and public infrastructure.

421
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So the trees and that is all the property owners.

422
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:27,260
The town is truly only involved in either of those two cases.

423
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,060
I can only give you my opinion, but my opinion is that the tree is not going to present

424
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a public safety hazard, like planning a lilac bush right at the corner of the street so

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that no one can see around the corner when traffic is intersecting.

426
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That I think wouldn't be appropriate, but if you wanted to plan a nice ash or maple tree,

427
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ten feet away from the road and it's still in the town right away, but it's never going to

428
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obstruct traffic.

429
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,500
That might be okay, but that's only my opinion, I don't know what to do.

430
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in my opinion technically it's not legal. Would you get called on it? Probably not. I was

431
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on the other side of a situation like this a few years ago I had a piece of property and a woman

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had a right away through it that she never used but when I had a tree come down that I plan to cut

433
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up myself over the course of the next month I got a call from a lawyer saying hey you've legally

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got to clear that right away within 48 hours and that's what I had to do.

435
00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:38,410
I just sent the board the ordinance and this is key ownership versus control just because

436
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the tree is physically within a town right away does not mean the town automatically owns

437
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the tree. The underlying land often belongs to the abutting private landowner but the town

438
00:40:48,030 --> 00:40:51,770
holds rights via the easement right away and can regulate and roof trees and

439
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specific conditions. They put in a ditch and they can't maintain the ditch and they'd be like,

440
00:40:57,470 --> 00:41:07,410
that's got to go. Or if it blocks a view or to the road, if I send it to you so you can look at it,

441
00:41:07,630 --> 00:41:15,270
but there's a lot, it's a lot. That is strong. Well, I don't think that we should just ignore this,

442
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:21,730
but I think that we have to go very carefully and make sure that we have a standard that's

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for everyone and get as much information as we can if if the league can provide us with anything.

444
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:32,630
It might even be worth contacting the town attorney.

445
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She seems to be pretty sharp on all these municipal

446
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variations.

447
00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:46,060
Because this isn't going to, this is going to come up again and again and again.

448
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,500
It does. I mean, we usually Jeff takes care of it and you don't even know about it, but when it comes to

449
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,420
the gentleman that's called on us for three years and being right, latinist about it.

450
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We owe an answer that is consistent with the policies.

451
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:05,660
Right.

452
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,120
When they start getting into the power lines, you know, it becomes a different angle.

453
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:30,700
Right.

454
00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:32,100
We don't want anybody to get killed.

455
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,280
Well, the very first thing on the policies is that the town of castle is not responsible

456
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,120
for the removal, maintenance, and monitoring of hazardous trees on private property, or within

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00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,040
in the right of way, even if such trees are reported by residents.

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00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,100
We have to be careful about setting a precedent.

459
00:42:54,410 --> 00:42:57,630
So at this point, we're all agreed we're going to take a deeper dive into our tree ordinance.

460
00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:04,670
And we should put it on our next meeting, so we don't, you know, we can't just kick this down the road.

461
00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:09,310
We need to come up with a definitive way we're going to handle these.

462
00:43:14,050 --> 00:43:15,970
I believe we did that one way.

463
00:43:16,490 --> 00:43:19,690
Maybe you are nuts in the side of this that we weren't going to.

464
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That's what I think.

465
00:43:20,490 --> 00:43:27,150
take care of them at the same time. We're going down and taking care of some. You know we can't

466
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go well if it's easy we'll do it. And if it's hard it's yours. You know where where do you draw that

467
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:42,090
line? So it's fair. My personal opinion would be that we shouldn't be taking any trees down on anybody's

468
00:43:42,090 --> 00:43:48,670
private property according to our own ordinance. I would advise that. A year ago or a year ago.

469
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:53,030
And that's consistent with what the state statute say.

470
00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:56,630
Yeah, a couple years ago, I asked Paul Egan about the one that was in my right

471
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:57,290
Erden.

472
00:43:57,610 --> 00:43:59,810
He told me it was my problem.

473
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,070
I called Green Mountain Power and they took it down.

474
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:03,310
But they don't do that anymore.

475
00:44:04,510 --> 00:44:06,930
But look at what happened on Race Wills Road.

476
00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:12,990
So even if the tree is not growing, the trunk and root system is not in the right

477
00:44:12,990 --> 00:44:16,170
of way, but the branches are when we go out there to protect the right of way,

478
00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:17,770
then people complain about that too.

479
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:30,760
But the incident up on the subordinate road by the blue hole. They took care of. They plan us and trees there today to appease the land on it

480
00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:41,080
Okay, well, I don't want to put a little of this or a belaborate. So I think we all agree we're going to do a deeper dive and discuss this at the next liquid meeting. Yeah, I'm going to move on

481
00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:47,200
You all in more

482
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,100
track your repair flow. I took that out of here

483
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
But Jeff, I asked Jeff if he could be prepared to talk about his hunger.

484
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:58,940
Well, this is the quote, right?

485
00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:10,670
No, no, no, no, that's just for our knowledge, for the trackless. All I do what was wrong with that prior.

486
00:45:11,650 --> 00:45:14,810
All right, then I don't have anything for the.

487
00:45:15,070 --> 00:45:19,610
No, I took it out because we, that's because Evan is going to take care of it for us.

488
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:29,590
Well, he's going to try, he's going to try to do it in-house and then have a meeting, I want to have a meeting next week with the public.

489
00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:39,190
works committee with Jeff and Evan and Heath to talk about vehicle replacement for the

490
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:43,550
next to select board meeting. Okay, so are we going to be discussing vehicle replacement

491
00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:48,970
scheduled tonight and we'll move on to Parks and Recreation.

492
00:45:49,310 --> 00:45:53,170
A.I. have one more question for Jeff. Certainly. Are you still there, Jeff?

493
00:45:53,690 --> 00:46:00,030
Yes, sir. The co-buckle excavator says that news needs new link arms, pins and bushings.

494
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:17,030
Okay, and that's just the pins and bushings on the link arms, not on the chains on the track.

495
00:46:17,070 --> 00:46:17,530
Correct.

496
00:46:18,010 --> 00:46:19,310
Do the chains are pretty new.

497
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:20,210
That's what I thought.

498
00:46:20,490 --> 00:46:22,030
So that's something you're going to do in house.

499
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:26,030
They should be able to do it all.

500
00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:27,530
I'll convert with Evan.

501
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,900
Perfect.

502
00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:31,180
Circle background.

503
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:31,820
Yep.

504
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:35,020
Yeah, let us know if P doesn't think he can do that, please.

505
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:35,820
Okay.

506
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,020
Mr. Chairman.

507
00:46:37,140 --> 00:46:39,380
Can we circle back to the new home and more?

508
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:40,260
Yes.

509
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:45,700
So Jeff originally had, I think I shared it with the board.

510
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,840
There was a $3,700 part to try to repair the new home.

511
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,740
It's not the trackers, the more, the over the around more.

512
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,020
So I was up there today.

513
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,240
I talked to Evan and Jeff.

514
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:07,720
and Evans and I try to do some repairs in internally and then I ask Jeff if he could check

515
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:13,540
on there's some part numbers there to see if there's, can you get the separate parts

516
00:47:13,540 --> 00:47:19,700
or is it the housing that's needed and so after discussion today, it's already, Evans

517
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:25,460
taken the top part of it off already but he's going to try to do some in-house fix and then

518
00:47:25,460 --> 00:47:31,940
to make sure that the holes the bolt holes aren't oblonged and that we're going to try to throw

519
00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:41,960
a good money in on that thing. So let's get through that in-house fix attempt. But next

520
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:47,120
meeting we come make them back to you with the $3,700 repair because that's what would be needed

521
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,820
to get that thing operational because it's not running right now.

522
00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:54,360
Okay,

523
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,080
I'm not going to talk about

524
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,920
track, let's right now either, right? Okay,

525
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:10,180
remember we move on to the Parks and

526
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:13,800
Recreation. Thanks Jeff. Thanks Jeff. Thanks Jeff. Thanks work on that

527
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,200
grant.

528
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:22,580
Thank you very much. All right

529
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:27,000
everybody. Happy September. I apologize

530
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,220
that the packet is extra thick. We had a busy end of the summer, and we have a

531
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:34,980
busy start to our fall. So hopefully now as fall season, the next one will be a

532
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:41,440
little bit shorter on these updates. So dive into September a little bit. Put update

533
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,200
on a breakfast that's been basically

534
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,620
we've been working on over last week and a half.

535
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,480
We're going to work on a lot of things on the back end,

536
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:50,560
both implementing programs into the back end.

537
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,220
And then also because Casalton is a little bit

538
00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:55,100
weird that we have people that technically

539
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:57,780
have a fair haven of address that they're

540
00:48:57,780 --> 00:48:58,980
technically considered Casalton.

541
00:48:59,540 --> 00:49:02,060
So a lot of last week I was inputting street by street

542
00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:04,520
by street, making sure that we got all those residents.

543
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:07,720
And if anybody who got missed, they just

544
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,040
need to give us a call and say, hey,

545
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,560
I'm a castlin resident, can you just include me?

546
00:49:11,620 --> 00:49:13,980
And we can go ahead and put that in me and look for them.

547
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:17,760
And then on the public side, the exciting thing is on Friday,

548
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,560
we sent out a Facebook post, in front of Fortune Forum post,

549
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,000
and I'm working on an email to help people

550
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,040
start creating accounts on RECDESC.

551
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:30,480
So again, our new website is Castleton www.Castleton.

552
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,520
RECDESC.com, you can check it out.

553
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:35,240
There's some early pictures there.

554
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:38,520
And our goal right now is to go live for people

555
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,120
to start registering for basketball on October 2nd.

556
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:44,360
That might there might be some delays or some

557
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,980
kinks that we're still working out, but basketball is going to be our first program.

558
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,840
And then we're also going to plan on putting pickleball in there for the fall as well.

559
00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:55,680
And then as people, let me know what kind of programs are interested in helping us to run

560
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,520
we'll be able to offer more winter programs that we're going there as well.

561
00:49:59,860 --> 00:50:03,620
So again, there's the user side and then there's the public side on there.

562
00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:08,040
So our next steps, again, I'm advertising to the public to start creating accounts.

563
00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:14,020
We're going to start actually also offering open houses in the evenings and the afternoon for people to come in.

564
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,620
They can ask questions on how to create an account or how to register.

565
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,780
So we're really trying to help people really make this as seamless as a transition as possible.

566
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,580
We know that it's going to be a change that are going to be different.

567
00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:32,880
But we're really excited because Hago right now we're having some issues with pickle wall and Hago is just not cutting up for us.

568
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,240
We contacted them about a week and a half ago. Finally, I heard back from them today, and they're like,

569
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:45,820
we'll bring it to the development team. So, just another reason why we're kind of ready to say goodbye to Hey Gov and move forward with our new registration platform.

570
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,340
So we've got some of all this pickle all numbers in there, a little bit on this floor side,

571
00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:56,780
but we're expecting that as the weather gets a little bit cooler and more people are coming back and playing indoors

572
00:50:56,780 --> 00:51:00,600
those numbers should increase in September and beyond.

573
00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:07,900
So, our camp was very successful, you kind of, after a little bit of a rocky start with

574
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:12,300
administrative challenges, we were able to kind of pass that and really had a great summer

575
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:16,880
across all of our camps, kind of as camp or ceiling camp, and our adventure camp.

576
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:22,020
I kind of put through some feedback from the parents, and I haven't had a chance to really sit

577
00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:27,000
down and sympathize, sit down with all the feedback from all the parents stuff we got, and

578
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,380
of the evaluations from the staff, but we're hoping that in the next couple of months to

579
00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:36,160
sit down with the directors and kind of do a white wash and kind of work things out a

580
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,500
little bit more administratively and somehow keeping, but overall the kids had a really great time

581
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:44,980
and we're pleased with how many years you see that.

582
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:50,120
I also wanted to point out that the sailing camp

583
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,900
was a little bit lower, but we also have less people reviewing it and we had one person

584
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:59,740
kind of brought down that ring. So, mostly positive feedback on sailing, but there's just

585
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:03,180
that one person that had a little bit of negative feedback on the press.

586
00:52:10,610 --> 00:52:11,530
So, and we could

587
00:52:11,530 --> 00:52:19,510
step the ocean this year. And then for soccer, soccer, before I went on vacation, I put

588
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:23,990
the order in for soccer and we were all good to go. And then I got back and we had a couple

589
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:29,510
hiccups with people that were trying to sign up really late for soccer. So, along story

590
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:29,750
Sure.

591
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:49,960
I had some conversations with coaches, and we were able to accommodate them, but it's kind of a more global discussion that I'm looking to have eventually, when it's kind of that official cut off, we're not accepting more people, but besides that, soccer has been going really well. This is our second full week of it. No, the third full week and it's really enjoying it.

592
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,520
In addition, we also have a couple of other one-off classes going on. We have another single-on-class with stage.

593
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,200
To get three families signed up for that the first time and we're hoping to increase those numbers for her September

594
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,200
the which is coming pretty quickly

595
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:15,060
And then we have yoga and bar taking place right down the hall. That's really taken off Sabrina's back in people with really enjoy that program

596
00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:19,920
And these were numbers from a couple of weeks ago and those numbers have just kind of continued to grow

597
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,540
So we're really excited about her coming back

598
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,780
On Saturday morning also have a new program that one of our campus counselors is a big runner

599
00:53:28,780 --> 00:53:34,140
So, he's offering a couch potato to 5K that every week they're going to be doing a little bit of running.

600
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,240
And then the last week is right before the Friends of Parks and Recreation 5K on Thanksgiving.

601
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:45,640
So, hoping that people will after doing all the training will then transfer over and stand for the 5K with friends.

602
00:53:47,060 --> 00:53:54,580
And then lastly, in addition to working on the self-reflect desk, I've been busy working on the fall festival, recruiting for sponsorships.

603
00:53:54,580 --> 00:53:58,620
Um, just a week, I really, I'm going to start trying to make some phone calls to potential

604
00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:03,560
entertainment, um, such as the bounce houses, which he's, Matt has already secured,

605
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,360
I'm looking at stuff, stuff like rock walls, um, and other activities to kind of keep the kids busy,

606
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,280
in addition to the texture, texture, and trunk retreat.

607
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:16,020
So, reparations have been, we've been busy, um, but it's been,

608
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600
blasting, we're really looking for it, you know, a really busy ball.

609
00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:23,480
Where's food for Michael?

610
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,220
No, it looks great.

611
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:39,350
Do you want me to stay up here for you? I know I saw the ball festival was on the second quarter

612
00:54:39,350 --> 00:54:41,690
Do you want me to stay for more questions on the adder?

613
00:54:41,890 --> 00:54:45,670
We can duck a little. Do you have anything to add about the ball festival at this point?

614
00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:46,710
I do not.

615
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,320
Questions for Mike on that?

616
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:55,750
We're going to move on to Crystal Beach.

617
00:55:00,770 --> 00:55:01,850
Mark does not hear.

618
00:55:04,130 --> 00:55:06,090
Let's see Mark on line either.

619
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:08,830
That's Bob and the lower right corner. Is that correct?

620
00:55:10,330 --> 00:55:10,790
Yes.

621
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:24,000
I'm sure that's on the horizon and closing the crystal beach, but they've started, they've

622
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:31,520
started closing up the building, but they needed to get the water drain back from the

623
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:40,390
for the week, and Martha asked, I think it was Evan or Jeff, he asked it, if Russ could do

624
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:46,170
and she didn't know that rusted resign so we're actually getting somebody up there to

625
00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:50,690
drain that out that the sinks in the toilets and drain it back to the lake and pull

626
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:58,390
the pump out of the lake tree plantings and removal so all the tree plantings that could

627
00:55:58,390 --> 00:56:04,230
be done this year are completed and then there's some there's a few trees that need to get

628
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:09,370
removed next year that that dead one that's hanging over the kids jungle gym that's

629
00:56:09,370 --> 00:56:11,150
That's going to come down.

630
00:56:11,470 --> 00:56:15,990
There's a big branch already fell down and I think there was no one underneath it, but it's

631
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:18,370
on town property and it's not in the right of way.

632
00:56:19,530 --> 00:56:20,250
Well, that's an easy one.

633
00:56:20,490 --> 00:56:21,450
Yeah, that's ours.

634
00:56:21,590 --> 00:56:24,230
There's a couple on the north side of Zuckerbrook.

635
00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:25,750
There's one dead one over there.

636
00:56:25,870 --> 00:56:27,130
It's an Elmer and Ash.

637
00:56:27,630 --> 00:56:30,870
And then there's a couple of the willows.

638
00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:33,770
So we ordered trees.

639
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:36,630
We planted them.

640
00:56:37,070 --> 00:56:37,590
Well, I take that.

641
00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:43,530
We ordered trees. Those that come in yet, they're going to get planted behind the town office and put in

642
00:56:43,530 --> 00:56:50,750
cover around of mulch deep mulch to help protect the roots of the winter and there's a warranty.

643
00:56:51,090 --> 00:56:54,670
So if they don't make it through the winter, we can get them replaced for free.

644
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:58,710
And once those trees are taken down up there, the new ones will get planted.

645
00:56:59,950 --> 00:57:01,490
So far so good.

646
00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:06,630
It was later in the year, so far they haven't been broken and used as marshmallow sticks.

647
00:57:09,070 --> 00:57:14,670
update on the investigation of two wells. I did ask Martha last week if her crew would clean

648
00:57:14,670 --> 00:57:22,210
that out and she said that she believes they have not. So I've asked Jeff to go up there

649
00:57:22,210 --> 00:57:26,010
and set her set up one of his crew to pull the sticks out of that because when there's

650
00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:30,330
going to be right around the corner, another year kicked the can down the road, but once the

651
00:57:30,330 --> 00:57:34,550
stuff's taken out of there, Parker will come back and test the flow to make sure how many gallons

652
00:57:34,550 --> 00:57:42,610
a minute that will yield and that will kind of give us more direction, whether we want

653
00:57:42,610 --> 00:57:50,190
to test it for drinkability. They suggested not to do that if it's low yield well, so

654
00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:56,430
don't bother putting the money or time into it. Let's find that out first. So that has not been resolved.

655
00:57:57,550 --> 00:58:03,570
And the snack check maintenance we haven't done any work on that yet to this point.

656
00:58:06,030 --> 00:58:06,230
We have

657
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:11,310
There is some work that needs to be done on the doors to get them so they're weathertight and secure for the winter.

658
00:58:12,190 --> 00:58:24,300
Those ones that fold up on the right where people can order their food or whatever those doors, especially one on the west side, facing Lake.

659
00:58:25,980 --> 00:58:27,060
That's it right now.

660
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:35,470
Are we ready to move on to public safety?

661
00:58:36,850 --> 00:58:38,600
Point what do the animal control officer?

662
00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:42,230
Good evening.

663
00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:46,490
Do you have your proposal, please?

664
00:58:48,190 --> 00:58:49,670
You can give me your pitch.

665
00:58:50,850 --> 00:58:52,460
But I'm sorry.

666
00:58:53,370 --> 00:58:53,850
Well, listen.

667
00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:55,410
It's a purple.

668
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:56,690
So I'm not opposed.

669
00:58:57,470 --> 00:58:59,010
So here's the thing.

670
00:58:59,430 --> 00:59:03,310
So from January 1 to September 2 today,

671
00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:04,550
I looked at the numbers.

672
00:59:05,170 --> 00:59:10,410
Okay, the 37-animal problems and 2-animal neglects.

673
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:17,210
More recently, I just finished one on neglect and cool thing where pets died.

674
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:25,530
So there's an active one right now that's going on, the Avery's actually doing, and I

675
00:59:25,530 --> 00:59:31,110
texted Mike, I have got back comedy, because he doesn't have access of computer as part

676
00:59:31,790 --> 00:59:36,890
the system we use because he can't use our system because he's not certified

677
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:42,970
in policing so I don't know you know that the reporting system he has is just

678
00:59:42,970 --> 00:59:50,050
all what he has or I don't even know if he puts it in a computer his own so I did

679
00:59:50,050 --> 00:59:54,030
text him for that he clarifies that that's Mike Alexander the three-word

680
00:59:55,310 --> 00:59:57,790
Yeah, I might go in there and go from throw off the set.

681
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:59,310
Yeah, yeah, so I said, yeah.

682
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,820
That's not what we heard. We have said that. We hear that.

683
01:00:05,860 --> 01:00:18,340
So, obviously, you know, as I go through this, I mean, I could sell this easily, because I think it works well for us. We provide the services. It'll be more accountable. We'll have more resources.

684
01:00:22,130 --> 01:00:27,870
And then, you know, I know ultimately it comes down to a cost issue, but I believe that

685
01:00:27,870 --> 01:00:35,870
what we do and how hard it's been to get the animal control officer, we won't have

686
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:36,530
that problem.

687
01:00:38,190 --> 01:00:47,940
That's the biggest issue is because when people call, they want the service now and you give

688
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:52,920
on the call and he's working full-time. So I told him to stand that.

689
01:00:57,550 --> 01:00:59,450
So your proposal includes

690
01:00:59,450 --> 01:01:06,310
an appointment of one of your officers as animal rights officers. What happens when that

691
01:01:06,310 --> 01:01:13,490
individual is on vacation in New Mexico? We have to take it. We take them. As we'll have the

692
01:01:13,490 --> 01:01:18,570
vehicle set up to do that. So another officer will stand in for that. Just assume to take

693
01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:25,550
stuff, if it's a major investigation, probably would be the chief for weight, if it's something

694
01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:27,190
I could weight, if it's not serious.

695
01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:34,940
I mean, any one of them officers to do it. Just

696
01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:42,000
because of being in the field, there's still parts of it you need to have some knowledge

697
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:48,960
on animals and the resources. And I learned a lot just recently on the last case that,

698
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,180
because I do death investigations for people,

699
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:53,560
and normally if it's a suspicious one,

700
01:01:53,780 --> 01:01:55,400
you have to send them up for an autopsy,

701
01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:57,360
well, an animal that's called an acoropsy.

702
01:01:58,740 --> 01:01:59,840
The state vet doesn't do them,

703
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,040
they do them for some big animals,

704
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,000
they don't have a lab.

705
01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:05,420
The most of the time they either take somebody from you and age

706
01:02:05,420 --> 01:02:10,680
because they have a huge lab down there for that type of pathology.

707
01:02:12,820 --> 01:02:14,980
Bring them down there, so there's a class factor

708
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,680
for the agency that wants it.

709
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:28,460
So that's a piece that I've been in policing over 30 years and I didn't realize that actually.

710
01:02:29,900 --> 01:02:40,320
And so we have the car, the biggest, you know, if you want to look at the actual pricing I came out with,

711
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:43,280
I'd like to go right to the numbers because I know that's important.

712
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:47,920
So chief, you'd be retrofitting a police car that stays in rotation.

713
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:54,680
and this is absolutely absolutely and is that going to limit that car's effectiveness for

714
01:02:54,680 --> 01:03:00,480
other police work. Now because we're looking at getting an insert a two-thirds insert like

715
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:09,080
in my car I have it one-third transport for prisoners in a two-thirds just open. That's the system

716
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:18,480
need. The 20 is all open for transport with just the cage. But the newer, all the newest ones

717
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:26,920
all have, I think, the Tahoe is half, even not because it's still big inside. It's supposed to be

718
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:33,480
a one third, two thirds, but the other cars are one third, two thirds. But this wouldn't be able,

719
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:40,560
you wouldn't move it from one car to another and be set up in one car. Correct. That would be the

720
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:48,840
It would stay here, just like the rest of the cars, but the officer that's assigned as the ACO would use that car for patrol.

721
01:03:55,450 --> 01:04:00,790
So, you have me questions on some of the paragraphs that we talked about.

722
01:04:00,990 --> 01:04:04,470
Before I get to numbers, I get to kind of move right ahead of that.

723
01:04:05,210 --> 01:04:11,630
The documentation piece in case management is huge for us because we really don't manage the system,

724
01:04:11,630 --> 01:04:16,630
No, unless we create a case and then give it to the ACO,

725
01:04:21,860 --> 01:04:26,680
transport, commit, we talked about access to outside resources.

726
01:04:27,220 --> 01:04:28,620
You know, I mean, that's the biggest thing.

727
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,380
We'll have access to take the dog.

728
01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:31,880
So you mean society and such,

729
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:33,900
because we don't have a holding area down here.

730
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,960
None of them, that clinic,

731
01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:37,500
sad that kind of thing, which is normal.

732
01:04:37,660 --> 01:04:39,040
Because they have, we would have a key,

733
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,520
that he has a key now to get into it.

734
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,940
So if it's after hours,

735
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:49,380
You just have to go in there and fill out a form, put a dog in an area and then leave

736
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:54,940
under the form indicating where you found it, what were the circumstances in such.

737
01:05:01,390 --> 01:05:04,370
Well, so yeah, here, let me just look at this real quick.

738
01:05:05,450 --> 01:05:06,810
You know, it comes down to the equipment.

739
01:05:07,050 --> 01:05:10,350
We have most of the equipment already, with the exception of the insert.

740
01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:12,890
That really what we need.

741
01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:16,410
We've got several donors that want to assist.

742
01:05:19,310 --> 01:05:31,610
So when I look at your proposal here on page 7, it says kennel insert 465200 and then donations at the right seats, is that an offset somewhere all of that comes?

743
01:05:32,090 --> 01:05:34,830
Well, I would say 80% in math and math.

744
01:05:34,930 --> 01:05:35,970
It could be all of it.

745
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:36,170
Really?

746
01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:40,330
Because I've had people come to me and ask, you know, what we don't need to help.

747
01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:41,110
People do that.

748
01:05:41,650 --> 01:05:43,890
They will do that a comment.

749
01:05:45,010 --> 01:05:52,530
Some people have cement, and I have not given them anything, and I didn't try to sell it to them, but they'll come up and ask them.

750
01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:56,210
Periodically, so there are some people I will reach out to.

751
01:05:56,490 --> 01:05:59,330
So the majority of the cost will be the off-duty hours.

752
01:06:00,890 --> 01:06:11,810
Correct, and so if you look at the off-duty hours, three to six hours a week, that goes from low end to high end.

753
01:06:11,810 --> 01:06:19,730
And I calculated, I looked at the hours for our calls and just kind of, they don't come every week.

754
01:06:20,010 --> 01:06:23,430
Some weeks, you may have like 10, 12 hours depending on type of investigation.

755
01:06:24,050 --> 01:06:25,090
Some weeks, why have anything?

756
01:06:26,010 --> 01:06:31,070
Yeah. And some will take like 20 minutes versus, you know, the case that I just finished.

757
01:06:31,490 --> 01:06:35,290
You know, that was probably a search warrant.

758
01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:38,930
I mean, it was probably close to 10 hours total if you had it all up.

759
01:06:38,930 --> 01:06:47,630
Yeah, that was a whole different set of certain different different deal. But when they're on duty, I mean, we pick it up.

760
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:56,130
So would we be appointing one officer the dog warden or would we be appointing the police department to handle dog warden?

761
01:06:56,130 --> 01:07:04,150
So what I'm getting at is if it was one officer and they were not on duty and a dog call came in.

762
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:11,410
would the officer have to come in and handle it on over time or would an officer that was

763
01:07:11,410 --> 01:07:19,790
already on the clock handle it? It depends on what it is. If it's something that's a dog that's

764
01:07:19,790 --> 01:07:25,530
loose and it's not vicious and I'll because there's certain things that you got to be at the

765
01:07:25,970 --> 01:07:29,970
tools, stools, yeah, I mean I can't hold a plan here.

766
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:58,660
My self, you know, taking them up there. But if it's complicated, they're going to be called that. I wouldn't expect all my officers to do this, but, but, you know, you got vacations, could be out of town, we'd handle it. If it's a major investigation, then we can get the basic information and then hand the case back to the ACL. So it would be just one officer.

767
01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:05,420
plus the officer that I chose and the one that really was brought up to my attention,

768
01:08:05,420 --> 01:08:09,900
I wasn't even thinking like this initially until I said that that's actually pretty

769
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:15,560
sound like the actual thing. So it was self-initiated by them because we've been having

770
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,120
problems keeping the ACL. You know that.

771
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:22,500
Well, I like the idea that it's bad. It's an ordinary side since I've been here.

772
01:08:24,510 --> 01:08:27,730
It's a lot different now and a forward-facing position where you're going to deal with

773
01:08:27,730 --> 01:08:31,950
public. It's nice to have someone that has that training. Correct, and that's

774
01:08:31,950 --> 01:08:35,750
something. So they'll have to go through at least the level one, possibly the

775
01:08:35,750 --> 01:08:40,150
level two. But it's all online. I sent Mike to the online force. It was

776
01:08:40,150 --> 01:08:44,870
just trying to be sensitive to the overtime cost. Oh yeah, totally. I understand.

777
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:50,670
Totally. Totally. I understand. I mean, we do overtime as it is because we

778
01:08:50,670 --> 01:08:52,510
and filled their cops growing up.

779
01:08:52,770 --> 01:08:54,790
But I'm about to change that, but that's another story.

780
01:08:58,900 --> 01:09:00,580
I see more positives.

781
01:09:01,020 --> 01:09:02,800
I obviously always comes down to the money.

782
01:09:04,180 --> 01:09:06,580
The only other thing was the microchip scanner.

783
01:09:06,940 --> 01:09:11,740
So a lot of pets are shipped, and I'll tell you

784
01:09:11,740 --> 01:09:13,140
where it oozes is, and whatever.

785
01:09:13,340 --> 01:09:16,540
If it's on the universal system, that that's used.

786
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,040
So that's something that's pretty common among

787
01:09:22,540 --> 01:09:26,060
AACOs, they have an A range and you're from 50 to 400.

788
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,300
I don't know the difference of any of them.

789
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:31,840
I just kind of looked at the ranges with the costs that I saw.

790
01:09:32,260 --> 01:09:34,940
That's not a piece of equipment we currently own.

791
01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:38,860
Now, now they transmit if they can't find the owner,

792
01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:40,860
and then they can't transport into the main site.

793
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,960
There's a cost associated with transport and back and forth.

794
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:48,380
I don't know how many calls a year, but can I interject for a minute?

795
01:09:48,380 --> 01:10:03,120
Because when I, when I first started here, Kevin McCallon was the ACO and he's resigned and then we've struggled to get people to fill that job and reply or respond to people's complaints.

796
01:10:03,940 --> 01:10:14,480
And I think the select board would be sensitive that when people will say, hey, we pay for a service whether it's plowing the roads or fire trucks showing up when they need it or a police.

797
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:22,020
And this is, I just say this is no different than that service because when people get angry

798
01:10:22,820 --> 01:10:27,680
about the, they get very passionate about the animals and when we, when they don't hear

799
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,900
back in the ACO, guess who gets a phone call?

800
01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:32,720
It's going to be me or that man.

801
01:10:33,580 --> 01:10:38,500
And I've got so many calls over the last eight years of, I've been trying to call the ACO,

802
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,600
no one gets back to me.

803
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:44,620
And then, if it's not well documented, and the case goes, maybe it's a court case, and I'll

804
01:10:44,620 --> 01:10:48,800
got a bit, and somebody's suing, and the judge, or the police officer needs to get a report,

805
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:54,360
and we can't get a report because nothing was generated, or, you know, it was written on down on a

806
01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:01,280
piece of paper, and not really filled out. So to me, I'd promise that from a service to the community,

807
01:11:01,820 --> 01:11:07,680
not just public safety, and that always comes with a cost. Well, they were going to buy a new

808
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:13,540
truck or put new blades on a plow or we're going to fix sewer lines whatever it's always

809
01:11:13,540 --> 01:11:18,380
there's a cost associated with all this but I think it's professional to have under the police

810
01:11:18,380 --> 01:11:25,540
department and have a professional response and organization and I'll bet you if you put this on a

811
01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:30,220
ballot and ask the people of the town to vote to have an ACO to deal with this that overwhelmingly

812
01:11:30,220 --> 01:11:36,960
they would support it for nine to twelve thousand dollars a year. Now I don't disagree with the chief

813
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,700
I think that, once this gets rolling, you'll have people donating.

814
01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:42,340
Oh, they are.

815
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,420
I mean, that's anything with the animals.

816
01:11:45,540 --> 01:11:47,540
When we have them, the bones are now for the animal control.

817
01:11:47,740 --> 01:11:48,680
I know you're going to ask me that.

818
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:49,280
I don't have those.

819
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,540
I thought it was, you said a little about 45, 100, right?

820
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:53,340
Yes, well, that's about it.

821
01:11:53,340 --> 01:11:53,560
That's about it.

822
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,180
I thought it was 46.

823
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:55,320
Yeah.

824
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:55,720
Okay.

825
01:11:56,020 --> 01:11:59,020
And we bought a lot of this stuff that's in there for, like, buying equipment.

826
01:11:59,400 --> 01:11:59,900
We've purchased it.

827
01:12:00,620 --> 01:12:00,780
Yeah.

828
01:12:00,780 --> 01:12:07,400
panels and gloves and, you know, the pole that pulls the, you know, but I'm around the neck

829
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,040
and so they can't, you know, bite somebody or whatever.

830
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:14,960
After we appointed Mr. Alexander, he went through and did an inventory of the equipment and

831
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,680
made sure that we got it all back from the previous ACO and that it was in good repair.

832
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,200
So, and I'm sure that Mike was conscious of enough to do a little job of that.

833
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:34,920
The other thing is the interpersonal communication skills, because we deal with people all time,

834
01:12:35,420 --> 01:12:39,840
whether they're complaining, or mad, they want something, or whatever, especially in the services.

835
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:45,980
I don't know how many calls I get on ferrocats.

836
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:57,660
Yeah, we had one site for four years ago, the person at 24 pharaoh cats and they were just

837
01:12:57,660 --> 01:13:04,020
wreaking havoc over the neighborhood, so we ended up contacting the main site who would do

838
01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:04,260
that.

839
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:10,010
Pick them up and they set traps all over the property and caught all them because they were

840
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:16,430
finding them deceased, stuff all over, so I mean there's stuff that you don't know about

841
01:13:16,430 --> 01:13:22,830
that's going out there that we get complaints about that, you know, and I think at this

842
01:13:23,670 --> 01:13:31,390
point for this town, it's a service that needs to be professionalized, it needs to be

843
01:13:31,390 --> 01:13:35,350
accountable and we got a better documentation. We just got to do it the right way.

844
01:13:35,490 --> 01:13:43,330
And you're talking about animal control officer, not a dog ward in there, but there's a

845
01:13:43,330 --> 01:13:50,470
registration piece, how much time did I spend on that, helping out Mike with that?

846
01:13:50,670 --> 01:13:51,510
That was brutal.

847
01:13:52,530 --> 01:13:57,610
The letters I had to put out, because he didn't have access to the system, so that's

848
01:13:57,610 --> 01:13:58,170
another piece.

849
01:13:58,630 --> 01:14:02,630
Remember how that was a big sore piece, because we never had any of the dogs were it?

850
01:14:03,490 --> 01:14:08,770
Well, we got a close to 85% registration, at least once we know.

851
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:10,990
When it was like 30,

852
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:14,940
I thought that's my pitch.

853
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,700
It's cheaper than fireworks, because it's cheaper than fireworks.

854
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,140
Yeah, it is.

855
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:22,720
That's generally what it says.

856
01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:23,780
Where's the money coming from?

857
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:24,200
Yeah.

858
01:14:24,780 --> 01:14:25,680
It's going to be built in.

859
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,260
I don't think the police department is going to be able to absorb $12,000.

860
01:14:29,940 --> 01:14:32,980
I mean, they can when they're, when they're understaffed, but when you're full

861
01:14:32,980 --> 01:14:35,680
staff, they don't think you're going to absorb $12,000.

862
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,840
It's going to have to be an added.

863
01:14:38,660 --> 01:14:43,580
For this year, it's going to end up being absorbed into that budget as best we can.

864
01:14:43,580 --> 01:14:48,660
but then in November December timeframe as we're building out the budget for the next fiscal year

865
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:53,600
we added in to see where we land with it and then I'm going to put it in there I work with the

866
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,840
chief and then it's up to the select board decide whether they want to be able to put it for the

867
01:14:58,340 --> 01:14:59,980
Well, I would suggest that when we...

868
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,960
We build next year's budget with the animal control. We still be a separate item in the budget, as it has been.

869
01:15:07,860 --> 01:15:09,960
Just a dollar value is going to be increased.

870
01:15:10,060 --> 01:15:14,980
But explain that it would be managed by the professional police department.

871
01:15:15,620 --> 01:15:17,460
Well, plus the other thing is that.

872
01:15:18,820 --> 01:15:21,160
Yeah. Well, plus the other thing,

873
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:26,880
talking about that 94 to 12,000.

874
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,760
Probably, I would say probably not three quarters of

875
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,940
that will be used for payroll.

876
01:15:42,140 --> 01:15:46,020
But if you put it under the ACO and it's say it's $4,500,

877
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:53,780
just to get us right now. If you're going to put it to $12,994 to $12,000, you're only raising

878
01:15:54,460 --> 01:16:00,420
that ACO budget, not the police department budget, and that the voters have a chance to

879
01:16:00,420 --> 01:16:06,700
vote on it independently if they wanted or not. And then the payroll, as far as the payroll

880
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:11,420
goes, we just put a code in the and the paste system, so the officer gets paid out of the ACO

881
01:16:11,420 --> 01:16:16,060
budget, not out of the police department budget. Yeah, I like that idea.

882
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,840
Well, once again, we'll have to make sure that we get a vote, you know, that the voters know

883
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:31,400
they're voting on. So here's my question. Because there is, there is a set of urgency in this

884
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,640
getting this thing. I'm not 100% innocent. There's parts of this week and implement now.

885
01:16:39,620 --> 01:16:45,820
Because of fact, Mike is just, I mean, he's not, he's just waiting for me to say, okay,

886
01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:51,820
Done. We'll take it. We've been doing it anyway. I'm going to add a call for the last two of them.

887
01:16:53,140 --> 01:16:57,440
It's hard for me to kind of attack a little old community. There's nothing against Mike. I understand.

888
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:07,280
He's got a lot of stuff going on. So I'm asking if I can implement some of these things going forward.

889
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,320
I'm on all in favor of it.

890
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,540
If you're already doing, I'm already doing. That's what I'm saying.

891
01:17:16,540 --> 01:17:22,440
I'm not saying that their person's going to start working all this over time, but I am saying that

892
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:29,760
I want to get this person trained, I want to get, I want to talk about getting some of their equipment, stuff like that, so I can gear it up.

893
01:17:32,180 --> 01:17:37,440
And I think it would be safe to say that if we have, I'll use that $4,500, I'm afraid because that's for grabs.

894
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:44,660
I think it's safe to say that the animal control officer at $4,500, you'll have that $4,500, at least.

895
01:17:45,480 --> 01:18:09,040
Yeah, I mean, I would want to use all of that, but I could use some of it, but I'm going to go with the plan that we have, and I just want to get, you know, the online courses and that much, like 400 bucks, but there's stuff that I could get, the person started implementing some of this, get some of the equipment prepared, getting stuff ready. That's basically what I'm looking at.

896
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,680
The top priority has a lot of the fundamentals already in blood.

897
01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:12,280
Absolutely.

898
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,680
So the off-serve is eight.

899
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:14,360
It would be a debris.

900
01:18:14,740 --> 01:18:15,960
And we need to fill this position.

901
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:17,760
So this makes perfect sense.

902
01:18:18,020 --> 01:18:21,140
And we've been getting, we just had two big things recently.

903
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,280
So that, and I agree with Mike, I think that the voters would approve this.

904
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,660
I mean, they do things that sometimes we don't expect.

905
01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:35,750
But I think that if this was presented to the voters in a way, would you be willing to

906
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:42,510
spend this extra to have the ACL handled by the police department by train professionals.

907
01:18:45,190 --> 01:18:48,030
I think it would pass overwhelmingly angry with you.

908
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:56,620
Well, we down side, I see as the cost, the upsides are not really easy to quantify because

909
01:18:56,620 --> 01:19:02,140
a lot of it's public safety and it would be irresponsible on this board's part and not

910
01:19:02,140 --> 01:19:04,780
to do everything we can to promote public safety.

911
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:05,180
Yep.

912
01:19:05,180 --> 01:19:08,700
Yeah, I think if we do a good job of getting this information out to the public,

913
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,200
that they would overwhelmingly support it.

914
01:19:11,380 --> 01:19:14,000
What I mean, the thing is right now, too, is the area I'm looking for,

915
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,700
off sur budgets, $4,500, but how much are we paying,

916
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,860
might the answer to telephone, and to deal with the calls that come in,

917
01:19:20,020 --> 01:19:21,820
how much are we already paying, and the police department,

918
01:19:21,980 --> 01:19:23,600
the answer to the calls that come in as well?

919
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,760
I mean, we're just, that's not getting split out of that $4,500 already.

920
01:19:28,300 --> 01:19:32,480
Right. I mean, if Mike spends three hours, you know, a month or whatever,

921
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:34,360
that's still three hours a month.

922
01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:39,080
And today, today, over an hour on that the C-Stogs call,

923
01:19:39,260 --> 01:19:40,600
because it was more than just that.

924
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,640
It was a lot more to it, but that's how it started out.

925
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,540
And after all the phone calls to the state in the city of Rutland,

926
01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:49,820
and Pete, and Justin, I had over an hour invested in that.

927
01:19:50,540 --> 01:19:52,620
So, do we need a motion for this?

928
01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:57,080
As we've asked, what should we appoint Avery Schneider,

929
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,560
the animal control officer, effectively, immediately,

930
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:00,760
and then move forward?

931
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,640
Yeah, I mean, I'm not looking for the money,

932
01:20:06,930 --> 01:20:12,570
that's for next year, like the 90s, whatever that, whatever you come up with, I'm just looking to implement the program.

933
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:13,630
That's all.

934
01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:23,190
How about if we make a motion to have the castle and police department take over the ACL position for the remainder of this year

935
01:20:25,210 --> 01:20:30,830
to be distributed, however, the chief sees fit and they would have access to that budget.

936
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:47,310
That's my motion, that we would turn over the animal control officer position to the castle and police department in its entirety for the remainder of 2026.

937
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:49,810
And they can be delegated at the Chief's discretion.

938
01:20:50,210 --> 01:20:51,490
He can delegate it.

939
01:20:51,930 --> 01:20:53,630
Whatever he needs to do it.

940
01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:58,130
And he'll have access to the funds that the voters have already approved for that purpose.

941
01:21:01,870 --> 01:21:03,610
because this is the most expensive.

942
01:21:04,690 --> 01:21:05,650
Any more discussion?

943
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:10,840
Well, all in favor?

944
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:12,240
All in my eye?

945
01:21:12,340 --> 01:21:13,040
Tag your eye?

946
01:21:13,180 --> 01:21:14,460
I don't have a dog anymore.

947
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,000
I don't have a dog anymore.

948
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,340
No, why don't you take your next?

949
01:21:17,580 --> 01:21:18,260
It's a big little random.

950
01:21:20,570 --> 01:21:22,830
So this be done in an executive session if I should.

951
01:21:23,330 --> 01:21:25,690
I think so, but what I wanted to have,

952
01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:27,670
I was asked to put it on the,

953
01:21:28,210 --> 01:21:29,550
I'll start by over again.

954
01:21:30,190 --> 01:21:33,670
I want to put it on the agenda

955
01:21:33,670 --> 01:21:39,290
agenda. So the public knows what's going on. So the public chief in

956
01:21:39,290 --> 01:21:46,750
Telo has said he wants his resignation will be in May of

957
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:51,610
the 2027, but his current contract doesn't carry him out that far. So he has to

958
01:21:51,610 --> 01:21:55,750
extend his contract. Does it actually just expired on me?

959
01:21:56,330 --> 01:22:00,950
I think it wasn't until next year what I didn't remember when your data

960
01:22:00,950 --> 01:22:04,550
tire was, except yeah, except to breathe.

961
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:13,710
So he's subject to his normal, his normal increases that he's had in his contracts, going back

962
01:22:13,710 --> 01:22:18,490
for a long time, or consistent, and this one, the three percent increase.

963
01:22:19,050 --> 01:22:22,850
I look through this and there's no changes other than the three percent increase.

964
01:22:23,690 --> 01:22:24,070
Yeah.

965
01:22:24,130 --> 01:22:27,950
It's a sad change to the date, because it worked for it ended.

966
01:22:28,910 --> 01:22:29,950
This is an executive.

967
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:49,840
I think we're going to be in trouble if he just packs the stuff up tomorrow and leaves.

968
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:53,780
Yeah, considering this contract expired three days ago.

969
01:22:53,780 --> 01:23:02,900
I mean, I make a motion that we extend his contract until update.

970
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:04,920
30, it's 20, 27.

971
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,680
30 is 20, 27.

972
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,140
What was the second thing that any more discussion?

973
01:23:12,140 --> 01:23:12,640
All clear?

974
01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:13,540
All right.

975
01:23:14,620 --> 01:23:16,560
So can we sign this copy here?

976
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,240
Do we have to have this looping in the blue folder?

977
01:23:20,780 --> 01:23:22,260
I need to have one sign.

978
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:27,220
Yeah, so we can fill this up. You can just sign the back of one of these and you sign mine that back

979
01:23:29,650 --> 01:23:32,190
and the blue folders down there. So you're right again.

980
01:23:36,830 --> 01:23:37,630
You're hired.

981
01:23:39,410 --> 01:23:44,410
Said that's the once a long time ago. How many years has it been chief. Go off. It's'll be 13.

982
01:23:48,430 --> 01:23:49,870
He's never said aye.

983
01:23:51,450 --> 01:23:54,010
Or zero down that he's on.

984
01:23:54,690 --> 01:23:56,190
Do you hear us?

985
01:23:58,220 --> 01:23:59,340
So, who was on the panel?

986
01:23:59,680 --> 01:23:59,860
June.

987
01:23:59,860 --> 01:24:00,200
I know.

988
01:24:00,860 --> 01:24:01,180
Bruno.

989
01:24:01,580 --> 01:24:02,460
Bruno's family.

990
01:24:03,540 --> 01:24:04,180
Promotory.

991
01:24:05,660 --> 01:24:05,940
No.

992
01:24:06,620 --> 01:24:07,820
Who was on there that year?

993
01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:10,260
We had a trailer.

994
01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:10,920
Joe.

995
01:24:14,820 --> 01:24:15,960
John Hill.

996
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:17,160
John Hill.

997
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:18,500
John Hill.

998
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:19,180
John Hill.

999
01:24:20,260 --> 01:24:24,380
John Hill.

1000
01:24:24,380 --> 01:24:26,740
All right, my good.

1001
01:24:26,740 --> 01:24:27,240
You're good.

1002
01:24:27,460 --> 01:24:27,720
Thank you.

1003
01:24:27,740 --> 01:24:28,440
You've got to work now.

1004
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,240
No, you've got to contract again.

1005
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:33,980
Of course, I don't want to thank you.

1006
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,980
I think he was like this in a blueholder mic.

1007
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:36,900
Please, all.

1008
01:24:38,220 --> 01:24:40,020
So I heard he got them floating in the driveway.

1009
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:40,980
It's like, good.

1010
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,040
I don't have the chair.

1011
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:42,880
Okay.

1012
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,260
We're going to move on too.

1013
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:45,200
Where do we move on?

1014
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,420
Red cross sheltering training.

1015
01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:51,570
Oh, I'll take this one.

1016
01:24:51,570 --> 01:25:02,350
We had training last week for the Red Cross sheltering and I did ask them to make it more lively.

1017
01:25:04,330 --> 01:25:09,490
So instead of death by PowerPoint, we actually set up the Legion Mary Lee was there.

1018
01:25:10,730 --> 01:25:12,890
And just, do we need to go set up all the cops and that kind of stuff?

1019
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:17,290
We just like, designated areas and discuss who we were doing what.

1020
01:25:17,290 --> 01:25:25,510
found out there was some areas at the Legion that were really conducive to, like, if somebody was sick

1021
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:28,650
and it was an outbreak of something where you can keep them separate.

1022
01:25:28,990 --> 01:25:33,810
I'm not talking like a pandemic stuff, but sick coughing, so you don't get everybody else sick

1023
01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:34,650
in the place,

1024
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:42,330
but the training was fine, they're going to come back, they're going to offer

1025
01:25:42,330 --> 01:25:47,850
some additional training to the town, because most of the people that were there were not

1026
01:25:47,850 --> 01:25:49,130
from Castleton.

1027
01:25:49,190 --> 01:25:51,950
There were other towns, sent people there for the training.

1028
01:25:52,750 --> 01:25:57,330
So we had Cindy L, who's on the Fart Department,

1029
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:59,710
and on the emergency management team,

1030
01:25:59,770 --> 01:26:02,150
and a member of the Legionot Viziloria,

1031
01:26:02,210 --> 01:26:04,910
I think, is her title.

1032
01:26:05,970 --> 01:26:10,130
Marley was there, and Lisa Thayer, who's also

1033
01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:14,370
Legion and Fart Department of Ziloria.

1034
01:26:15,230 --> 01:26:17,030
So they typically are the ones that help

1035
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:21,050
ever we need to set something up or do training anyway, mostly Cindy Yow.

1036
01:26:22,430 --> 01:26:28,310
So what we got out of it was we got some short falls, little things we got to work on,

1037
01:26:28,350 --> 01:26:35,170
as far as laying out the areas because you got a place for kids to play and you got to have,

1038
01:26:35,170 --> 01:26:44,050
they have animals because if they have actual licensed or certified therapy animals,

1039
01:26:44,910 --> 01:26:49,110
stuff like that that you you're supposed to take them in the States policies and the red cross

1040
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:56,710
policies that they don't turn them away. So talking about how to navigate that. But the I guess

1041
01:26:56,710 --> 01:27:04,610
disappointing was that there was nobody from the town that came to say I want to be part of the

1042
01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:10,010
emergency management the sheltering team. Didn't we have people signed up though, but just didn't show

1043
01:27:10,010 --> 01:27:18,610
Well, two of my know-of said they would be their husband, wife, combination, and they didn't show up.

1044
01:27:19,450 --> 01:27:29,010
But there was 13 people signed up, and nobody besides the people that arrived in there, Lisa and Cindy showed up.

1045
01:27:30,210 --> 01:27:38,310
So we're still back to that, how do we find people to volunteer to be a member of that sheltering team,

1046
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:45,590
and then receive the training needed to be able to function because there's a lot of personal

1047
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:53,010
information that's protected when you're going to a shelter and sign in and you don't

1048
01:27:53,010 --> 01:27:58,150
have to put your name down. The red cross does not require that. And the police can't come in there

1049
01:27:58,150 --> 01:28:04,150
and just cruise through and look and see if there's somebody that won't. They have to have

1050
01:28:04,150 --> 01:28:08,070
warranty to go in there. So there's some things that have to be safeguarded and

1051
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:15,650
have to take things. But we found out that the Legion would work fine for this in

1052
01:28:15,650 --> 01:28:20,230
manageable numbers. We're not going to take a hundred people in. But if we

1053
01:28:20,230 --> 01:28:27,510
have to stand up a shelter and so we are overflowed or overwhelmed by it, we can

1054
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:34,210
the Red Cross to open up the city of Rutland's shelter at the high school, that's the regional

1055
01:28:34,210 --> 01:28:39,830
shelter. So we're not an island, we're not, but what they tell us is the first 72 hours you're on

1056
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:44,950
your own, because it's going to take the Red Cross that long to stand up and mobilize and get people

1057
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:49,910
there. So for the, we have to really manage just for the first 72 hours or three operational periods,

1058
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:53,870
if you're doing 24-hour periods, but if you're doing 12, we're talking sick.

1059
01:28:56,770 --> 01:29:02,350
That was the disappointing part, is that we just didn't have people coming in there to go on to do it.

1060
01:29:02,350 --> 01:29:06,190
So we're going to keep promoting it out there on social media.

1061
01:29:06,730 --> 01:29:18,590
That's what they said, the Lady Lindsay from the Red Cross that they'll help us with some promotion and marketing and make something more fun and

1062
01:29:19,410 --> 01:29:24,190
You know, food and get prizes and all that kind of stuff to get people to come in and listen

1063
01:29:24,190 --> 01:29:29,610
to the pitch and want to become, get them maybe excited to do it.

1064
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:35,170
So, it sounds like, oh, but until you really need this and then all of a sudden, if we

1065
01:29:35,170 --> 01:29:41,290
did have a place where people needed to go because of a natural or man-made disaster that

1066
01:29:41,290 --> 01:29:45,200
displace them from their homes, we'd be in trouble.

1067
01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:52,960
people come out of the woodwork, but they're not going to know what to do and the three people

1068
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:58,620
that are trained would be there for 72 hours, you know, trying to keep everything going.

1069
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:19,140
So, I mean, I'm always appreciative and grateful for the taxpayers and the voters that they've given the money and resources that we need to make our castle and emergency management structure robust, because we are the only town in Rutland County that has what we have.

1070
01:30:19,140 --> 01:30:23,000
We have, we have a, we have a conics, full of equipment,

1071
01:30:24,140 --> 01:30:28,200
cuts, blankets, pillows, hygiene kits,

1072
01:30:29,180 --> 01:30:35,200
phone chargers, everything that you would need to stay in a shelter for 72 hours.

1073
01:30:37,780 --> 01:30:39,780
And we've got a new EOC.

1074
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:42,520
We don't, nobody else is not one town around here.

1075
01:30:42,780 --> 01:30:46,100
I think Mary Lee used that in on the training at the village school,

1076
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:50,560
were you down at and people were calling out towards saying how do you get that how do

1077
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,980
you do that like got to have a vision and go to the voters because they're the ones

1078
01:30:54,980 --> 01:31:01,320
pan for it and so I am I'm always grateful and thankful for what we do out because it's

1079
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:07,940
it is way more than what other towns have just need now we just need the people to help

1080
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:14,080
staff it when it's needed most of the time I'd be half the town doesn't know that the

1081
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:19,840
is the mercy shelter and the town paid for a generator, a mercy backup generator to power the place.

1082
01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:25,180
That's what I was going to say is we have a real problem with getting information out to the town

1083
01:31:25,180 --> 01:31:30,120
to people. I don't know what the answer for that is I mean you got front porch farm and Facebook and

1084
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:35,480
all that but there's so many people that don't know anything at all that's going on with town or

1085
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:39,780
like when we're asking for volunteers and there's just so many people that don't get that information

1086
01:31:39,780 --> 01:31:43,820
and I don't know what the answer is. Well we don't have a marketing person so the marketing person

1087
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:48,280
and ends up being me, and so, I talk to people all the time and they're like, hey, we're

1088
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:52,940
really thankful for your portfolio post, I'm like, that's like, I think I'm doing a terrible

1089
01:31:52,940 --> 01:31:57,200
job because it needs to be more out there and it's just the capacity to do it.

1090
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,620
But I don't even know if you could put a million things on there and I don't even know if that

1091
01:32:01,620 --> 01:32:05,580
would be the answer to getting it out to people because there's a lot of people that don't read

1092
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:12,380
from portfolio. You know what people do read is their tax bills. So when we put that mailer in

1093
01:32:12,380 --> 01:32:19,540
and said $664,000 in back taxes, that stirred up a lot of people. So you know, people read it.

1094
01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:22,180
So maybe that's maybe that's the thing to start.

1095
01:32:22,540 --> 01:32:26,780
We start putting fillers into the quarterly sewer and tax bills.

1096
01:32:27,340 --> 01:32:28,660
That's something worth trying.

1097
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,380
I'm willing to try that because we know that people read it.

1098
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:33,520
Yeah.

1099
01:32:36,060 --> 01:32:38,380
I think you have to...

1100
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:47,280
I would go and I would cook, but I wouldn't be capable of lugging tables and stuff like that.

1101
01:32:47,740 --> 01:32:57,540
So I think you have to get it out to people that there's something you can do, whether you're 45 or 85.

1102
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:05,320
And I think that's part of it right there because older people aren't going to say, well I'm going to go throw

1103
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,780
caught around and whatever.

1104
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,820
People want to eat, so we eat people to cook.

1105
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,400
I'll make apple pies and make plenty of last week.

1106
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,320
There you have something to add.

1107
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,360
You can come up to the podium, so that's my question.

1108
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:28,380
I just wondered that training, that was on a Tuesday, right?

1109
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:29,780
The night?

1110
01:33:29,780 --> 01:33:30,600
The night?

1111
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:32,860
It was in the evening.

1112
01:33:33,620 --> 01:33:37,080
Is there any way potentially that that could be on a weekend?

1113
01:33:38,460 --> 01:33:41,740
You know, try something different to get people in,

1114
01:33:41,900 --> 01:33:44,740
because week nights, especially this time of year,

1115
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,180
fall sports have started.

1116
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,480
So people are tied up with events.

1117
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:55,700
Yeah, I think that's thinking that's the kind of out-of-the-box, thinking that we need to do.

1118
01:33:56,440 --> 01:34:02,620
Because my sense is talking to Lindsay, the lady that's running it, is that they will do whatever they need to help us.

1119
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:10,660
Because they said that if everybody, every town, had the same enthusiasm that Council on had, it would make it the region would be a better place.

1120
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,980
So I sat down with her afterwards. She's like, you tell me what you need and we'll certainly help you.

1121
01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:25,260
And maybe list some of the skills that are required, you know, people may be thinking that this is something that requires advanced skills they don't have.

1122
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:30,580
And to list, you know, we need people to cook, to move tables.

1123
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:45,980
to make that yeah but to so people understood that without any previous training or college education

1124
01:34:45,980 --> 01:34:51,820
that there are jobs that they would be qualified to do most of our unskilled because the red

1125
01:34:51,820 --> 01:34:55,760
cross will bring in a lot of the skilled things like nurses and stuff like that but you

1126
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,600
have to have registration you have to have somebody monitoring the dorm area where there's

1127
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:05,700
sleeping. There's a whole host of things that you have. You don't need to have special skills

1128
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:13,370
for. You might need someone just to hold someone's hand. They talk about helping a guy that

1129
01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:18,590
needed to get out of a wheelchair and help move him. So, I mean, it could be anything.

1130
01:35:24,260 --> 01:35:24,900
I'm going to

1131
01:35:24,900 --> 01:35:30,780
put this to the back burner a little bit until, as we talk later about jobs, it's getting some

1132
01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:34,900
position spilled so I can just gain back some capacity to do stuff.

1133
01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:40,300
Yeah. Before we move on, I want to thank you, Mike, for the effort you've put in the

1134
01:35:40,300 --> 01:35:45,240
making this happen, because we both know that after you became down manager, we started moving

1135
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:49,700
forward with this, and I want to know that you're, I want you to know that your efforts are appreciated.

1136
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:54,520
I think I appreciate it. For sure. So definitely, it's one of those things that you don't think

1137
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:58,840
about it until you need it. And I'd rather, I'd rather have something in place and nothing in place.

1138
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:04,520
So several decades in the fire service, I can appreciate when you meet people that are having

1139
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:09,640
the worst 20 minutes of their life and you need to do whatever you can to help make it better.

1140
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:11,920
Sometimes that's just a place to go.

1141
01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:16,600
I think it's safe to say too that we've been seeing a lot more weird or weather with the flooding

1142
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,460
and the windstorms and all that stuff given the past handful years or 10 years.

1143
01:36:21,620 --> 01:36:24,100
We're in aging population in Kasselland.

1144
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:29,760
And for those that, probably most of you know someone that when the power goes out, they don't

1145
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:36,280
go run to a shelter, they rely on sulfur lions and they gut it out, but it's going to be

1146
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:42,260
those that can't live in their place or they have no power and they have oxygen machine or

1147
01:36:42,260 --> 01:36:46,180
something like that, that they're going to be forced to do something. Right? No heat.

1148
01:36:48,580 --> 01:36:49,980
My wife's cell phone was

1149
01:36:49,980 --> 01:36:51,940
and she had no power or would be in trouble.

1150
01:36:53,860 --> 01:36:55,460
Let's move on to...

1151
01:36:55,460 --> 01:36:56,560
I was sick, you'd be in trouble.

1152
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,980
Let's move on, do we need to discuss anything about...

1153
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,060
I don't even know how to...

1154
01:37:02,060 --> 01:37:03,180
I'd like to volunteer.

1155
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:05,100
I don't know.

1156
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:06,960
I didn't ever see anything on it.

1157
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:12,660
You guys have inspired me that tonight to come up with a way to communicate better with the public.

1158
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,860
And I think that one thing I'll work on with the Red Cross is coming up with a good flyer

1159
01:37:17,860 --> 01:37:22,670
that they can give some information and I can take it and add the town's specific stuff

1160
01:37:24,060 --> 01:37:26,320
and get the word out there.

1161
01:37:32,740 --> 01:37:53,020
All right. Yeah, that's a great idea. I mean, we should also bring something to the actualers, bring something to legion members, not just here, here's a building, maybe some of the members who set up. We know you like sleeping on cars.

1162
01:37:53,020 --> 01:37:55,300
Do, I love it.

1163
01:37:55,460 --> 01:37:56,140
Do it for you.

1164
01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:56,720
My favorite.

1165
01:37:58,320 --> 01:37:59,080
All right.

1166
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,160
So, yeah, this is energizing.

1167
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:07,220
I'd like it when there's some synergy or collaboration with this, because one person certainly

1168
01:38:07,220 --> 01:38:08,280
cannot do it all.

1169
01:38:08,820 --> 01:38:11,520
And if it just fails when you try to do it all yourself.

1170
01:38:12,340 --> 01:38:17,360
So, it'd be nice to have some energy and enthusiasm helping.

1171
01:38:21,230 --> 01:38:22,290
I'll keep you in mind.

1172
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:22,630
Yeah.

1173
01:38:23,170 --> 01:38:23,330
Please.

1174
01:38:24,350 --> 01:38:25,950
We need you to volunteer.

1175
01:38:26,170 --> 01:38:26,590
I know.

1176
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:27,750
When was in a service?

1177
01:38:28,050 --> 01:38:28,310
Hold on.

1178
01:38:28,990 --> 01:38:29,010
Yeah.

1179
01:38:30,330 --> 01:38:30,530
I know.

1180
01:38:30,650 --> 01:38:33,310
I remember that.

1181
01:38:33,470 --> 01:38:34,070
We need drivers.

1182
01:38:34,290 --> 01:38:34,690
They need volunteers.

1183
01:38:35,090 --> 01:38:35,870
You like, y'all drive.

1184
01:38:36,250 --> 01:38:36,970
And then they say it's pretty.

1185
01:38:36,970 --> 01:38:37,650
There's a wheelbarrow.

1186
01:38:37,730 --> 01:38:39,130
And you have to drive a wheelbarrow around.

1187
01:38:39,310 --> 01:38:39,770
You can up.

1188
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:40,510
Rocks or something.

1189
01:38:40,570 --> 01:38:44,330
It's been my experience when it's been my experience when, you know, the

1190
01:38:44,330 --> 01:38:47,270
Brown stuff hits the fan that a lot of people are willing to help.

1191
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:48,650
They just don't know what to do.

1192
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:51,920
We're going to move on.

1193
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,660
Do we need to discuss the UDR regulation proposed

1194
01:38:54,660 --> 01:38:57,760
changes tonight. I hope you're still in the planning commissions.

1195
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:03,560
I think that was the public, just the public comment. Mr. Chairman that people that are

1196
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:08,000
out there following this that you guys have turned it back over to the planning commission

1197
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,920
they're meeting tomorrow night. So if somebody's interested, their agenda has it on there.

1198
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:22,780
Yeah. And say it's on their agenda. Particularly the town plan and the UDR for the mining

1199
01:39:22,780 --> 01:39:29,560
of earth minerals and hotels I think they had talked about yes yeah so I mean so if

1200
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:35,400
people out there want to participate or have their voice heard and there's a

1201
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,720
meeting tomorrow 9-630 right in this room

1202
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,320
all right so we're going to move on to job

1203
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:52,300
vacancies and job descriptions I heard a lot of room around you know when I go

1204
01:39:52,300 --> 01:39:58,760
around town. I was just so many vacancies and what's vacant.

1205
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,560
So, excuse me, so right now that

1206
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:10,040
you got the board already knows it, but we're working on filling the town clerk slash

1207
01:40:10,660 --> 01:40:17,220
treasure position. We had one interview and there's another one, but I found out today

1208
01:40:17,220 --> 01:40:21,360
or no Saturday, that the person might not be a castle in the resident.

1209
01:40:24,490 --> 01:40:27,530
They live on the Hubbard-in side of...

1210
01:40:28,130 --> 01:40:30,790
I have to verify that.

1211
01:40:31,330 --> 01:40:34,150
Because the resident may just says,

1212
01:40:34,370 --> 01:40:35,130
Bommazine the Mont.

1213
01:40:36,350 --> 01:40:37,530
So I took it at face value.

1214
01:40:38,270 --> 01:40:39,470
That's a false box.

1215
01:40:40,970 --> 01:40:43,990
Or it's Bommazine, because they live on light and your lake Bommazine

1216
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:45,230
out of the 30 corridor.

1217
01:40:47,170 --> 01:40:48,770
So I have to verify that.

1218
01:40:48,770 --> 01:40:55,910
the legendary point is over to. Yeah. And that's right where they live. Yeah. So,

1219
01:40:55,910 --> 01:41:01,850
where that general vicinity. So, that the town clerk slash treasurer hybrid position.

1220
01:41:03,230 --> 01:41:18,750
I said town court treasurer. Yes. And this is currently advertised. Yes, but it was advertised as a

1221
01:41:18,750 --> 01:41:26,390
one treasure. There was some cross outs on there. I just wanted to make sure that before

1222
01:41:26,390 --> 01:41:30,810
we go forward with any more interviews because I provided this to that one person that

1223
01:41:30,810 --> 01:41:37,550
we interviewed, that I can get it back out there as a full time job 40 hour a week position

1224
01:41:38,150 --> 01:41:42,470
and just want to make sure the board was good with it because of the weight, the wage.

1225
01:41:44,450 --> 01:41:49,070
I think it is as a full-time position, you might get more interest.

1226
01:41:50,110 --> 01:42:00,770
So far, the interest has been about full-time and that's the one that is, I don't

1227
01:42:00,770 --> 01:42:07,310
think that has been the number one priority in the past, but the ones lately are,

1228
01:42:12,130 --> 01:42:12,190
and

1229
01:42:12,190 --> 01:42:13,410
they're looking for benefits.

1230
01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:21,570
So it's just a strange dynamic how it's changed over the past five or six years, but

1231
01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:28,930
that were before, people were money, money, it was really money oriented, and now it's

1232
01:42:28,930 --> 01:42:29,330
benefits oriented.

1233
01:42:29,450 --> 01:42:33,630
So I don't know what's going on in the general public, as far as health insurance and

1234
01:42:33,630 --> 01:42:36,650
all that, but it seems to be a motivating factor right now.

1235
01:42:36,650 --> 01:42:43,770
Affordable health insurance is a big deal. You are for those of us who have been self-employed

1236
01:42:44,690 --> 01:42:48,510
that matters. Absolutely. You are going to get agreed with that.

1237
01:42:49,110 --> 01:42:54,430
Yeah, and I apologize because I haven't been in that position, so I don't understand.

1238
01:42:54,690 --> 01:43:01,650
I guess I don't understand, grab the gravity of it all. But obviously people applying do.

1239
01:43:02,770 --> 01:43:14,150
And I think that when I first got on the board I think that we had kind of tried to make a decision to get away from hiring full-time to go to part-time to try to save the town money on the insurance side of things.

1240
01:43:15,310 --> 01:43:17,490
And I think what I have to point out just doesn't work.

1241
01:43:17,790 --> 01:43:27,410
We are seeing a lot of turnaround on the part-time help and it's not for anything to do with the town but it's just like you're saying people are looking for the insurance and things are changing.

1242
01:43:27,410 --> 01:43:29,490
And we need these positions, both.

1243
01:43:30,250 --> 01:43:31,210
It is critical.

1244
01:43:31,490 --> 01:43:33,730
These are critical functions within the town.

1245
01:43:36,170 --> 01:43:38,370
And the folks that we had hired,

1246
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:40,770
the two people that are getting done,

1247
01:43:41,070 --> 01:43:42,830
the treasurer and the town clerk,

1248
01:43:44,590 --> 01:43:47,470
they're on the far end of the workforce time,

1249
01:43:48,210 --> 01:43:49,010
you know, towards retirement.

1250
01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:54,730
And that's the people applying for jobs that are 60 plus years old.

1251
01:43:54,730 --> 01:44:03,130
I think if you're hiring people under 30 they're really focused on what the hourly wages and they don't care about insurance

1252
01:44:03,130 --> 01:44:07,840
They don't have time life experience to care about it. Yeah, but when you get people over 30

1253
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:15,850
They often have been in that situation where they're they had no health insurance or it was minimal had high deductibles

1254
01:44:15,850 --> 01:44:20,660
And they had bad experiences, so now it's becoming really important. So jobs like this

1255
01:44:21,610 --> 01:44:22,150
that

1256
01:44:22,930 --> 01:44:29,970
You're looking for someone that has life experience, they're not 21 years old, applying for this job, becomes really important.

1257
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:38,150
And I think there's, depending on what demographic you're talking to, if you're talking to the under 30s or the over 30s,

1258
01:44:39,250 --> 01:44:46,150
it's definitely the landscape has changed on what people, what they're looking for, and I just said, people time off.

1259
01:44:46,150 --> 01:44:51,530
because it's not only offers a week off the first year and that's I've had many people say

1260
01:44:51,530 --> 01:44:56,210
I get through weeks now and I can't give that up and they're willing to walk away from a job

1261
01:44:57,050 --> 01:44:59,970
because they have children and they have things that go on

1262
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,740
And then they can't take a week. They can't accept a week. So, I mean, everybody has their own motivations for this, but it just seems lately that insurance has been the big one.

1263
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:17,740
Well, I'm grateful one, I'm comfortable with you presenting this, this job description to a candidate as amended.

1264
01:45:17,740 --> 01:45:19,740
As I'm on it.

1265
01:45:20,540 --> 01:45:25,660
So there's no reason why you can't pursue a town clerk and treasurer in my opinion.

1266
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,040
You rest a little more degree?

1267
01:45:27,740 --> 01:45:28,660
I absolutely agree.

1268
01:45:28,780 --> 01:45:30,380
I like to tell both of us.

1269
01:45:30,780 --> 01:45:35,120
Yeah, I'd like to see this get out in this form everywhere you can.

1270
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,700
I know social media from a porch forum.

1271
01:45:38,620 --> 01:45:41,180
VLCT has their classifieds.

1272
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:42,840
If you, if I'd encourage the,

1273
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,220
uh, select order to go to the VLCT website,

1274
01:45:46,220 --> 01:45:50,000
go to their classifies and just see how many jobs are out there right now within municipalities

1275
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,080
and what they're paying them.

1276
01:45:52,340 --> 01:45:57,800
There's everything in there from the same exact thing, town clerk slash treasurer, zoning

1277
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,820
administrators slash something.

1278
01:46:00,580 --> 01:46:08,120
These jobs are all hybrids now, they're not like one job and everything's out there.

1279
01:46:08,140 --> 01:46:10,140
Town managers, police chiefs, everything.

1280
01:46:10,460 --> 01:46:15,320
The migration is away from three part time jobs, the one full time job seems to be.

1281
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:21,320
I mean, we survive on part-time jobs on things like the highway department.

1282
01:46:22,220 --> 01:46:25,140
Those are the ones, those are the guys out there mulling and doing that stuff.

1283
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,820
So it does work out usually to our benefit, but when you're talking a critical position

1284
01:46:29,820 --> 01:46:32,040
like this, it just hasn't worked out.

1285
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,440
And I apologize to the board because I came to you with an idea of like, hey, let's do

1286
01:46:36,440 --> 01:46:41,620
three part-timers rather than one full timer and we'll have coverage when someone's on vacation

1287
01:46:41,620 --> 01:46:45,080
or goes away, but two of them just resigned.

1288
01:46:45,500 --> 01:46:50,000
Yeah, I mean, it was a great idea and it was well worth trying, and that's how you learn

1289
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,040
whether it works or not.

1290
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:52,060
So it's not great.

1291
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,260
You can't fall in love with an idea if it's not working, you just keep trying.

1292
01:46:55,880 --> 01:47:01,400
So we've already authorized you to advertise for those hybrid, hybrid zoning administrator

1293
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:02,620
and health officers, right?

1294
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:07,580
Yeah, there was a change that, because member of COVID enforcement officer was in there.

1295
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:13,040
Yeah, so I didn't put it specifically in there because coding force and all falls also under zoning

1296
01:47:13,580 --> 01:47:15,160
So even you start adding

1297
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:20,980
Too many descriptions to it. It might discourage some people from applying

1298
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,860
But what what does fall under that is the e911 coordinator?

1299
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:31,720
And I looked at other job. I have some here if you want to look at them other towns for zoning

1300
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,840
They're the they're the e911 coordinator and I say wow

1301
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:43,180
What? Why did I think of that before? Because when people get their building permits and they're putting a house in they need their

1302
01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:45,900
911 address for that new residence. So why?

1303
01:47:46,140 --> 01:47:52,040
Who better than do that in a zoning administrator while they're doing it rather than the zoning administrator goes up to the

1304
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:57,940
To the front office and says here this person needs a 911 address and we're just shuffling paper back and forth.

1305
01:47:57,940 --> 01:48:03,560
And to the extent one office, you know, go with the partial file, it'll be done souped

1306
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:03,900
in us.

1307
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,920
John somebody can be much more efficient and all around.

1308
01:48:07,740 --> 01:48:09,380
And you're only talking a few hours a year, right?

1309
01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:15,140
Yeah, it's not, but it is critical when they don't get their 911 address and they're screaming

1310
01:48:15,140 --> 01:48:20,820
because they can't get mail or deliveries or they can't get emergency services when they

1311
01:48:20,820 --> 01:48:21,260
need it.

1312
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,220
That's the other one is, you know, he brought that to me and goes, and don't forget,

1313
01:48:24,380 --> 01:48:25,200
emergency services.

1314
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:31,820
Well, I've had to explain to few people how that 911 system works and it's a major help.

1315
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:40,580
Those, you understand how it works and just to know that it's two miles down the road on the right and you hit down the road.

1316
01:48:42,140 --> 01:48:48,100
So, but that was the change so that it took out, and I did the 911 stuff in there.

1317
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:53,880
It kind of just took the code enforcement as a separate item because it's going to be happened anyway.

1318
01:48:53,880 --> 01:49:00,780
the administrative officer by our U.E.R. and by states statute enforces the codes and the health officer and the police.

1319
01:49:01,620 --> 01:49:09,680
So the you need us to read and review this and approve it the next meeting the job description or is that just an internal document.

1320
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:14,260
So that was for because it says that the select board

1321
01:49:14,260 --> 01:49:26,320
I approve that, because you appoint those people, so it's not been, it has not been a hiring process, it was an appointment made by the select board.

1322
01:49:29,500 --> 01:49:40,880
So, I think in fairness and transparency to this is that you look at it, you're agree with it, you approve the job description and then I go out and asserts for people.

1323
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:48,880
I make a motion when we approve the job description as presented for Town Clerk and Treasury.

1324
01:49:49,900 --> 01:49:51,020
Type-up.

1325
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,740
All in favor?

1326
01:49:52,580 --> 01:49:52,660
Aye.

1327
01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:54,100
There's one.

1328
01:49:54,780 --> 01:49:54,800
All right.

1329
01:49:54,940 --> 01:49:57,880
So we got the Town Clerk, that one.

1330
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:01,500
And then we saw the accountant position.

1331
01:50:02,940 --> 01:50:09,680
We've a conditional offer was made to Abby Cohen, who is our current treasure, who

1332
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,740
is going to leave because she's looking for full time employment.

1333
01:50:11,740 --> 01:50:20,540
So, we did interview Abby and that was the recommendation of the committee, the interview committee.

1334
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:21,800
It's the higher her.

1335
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:30,880
So, I offered her a conditional offer and she said send me the conditional offer and she'll review it and let me know.

1336
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:35,400
She wants it but she unfairness should read what she wants it.

1337
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:36,060
What do you want to make?

1338
01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:40,520
We might have been out at the bottom, so she is not accepted the offer yet.

1339
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:41,000
Correct.

1340
01:50:41,340 --> 01:50:42,380
Especially receiving the offer.

1341
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:44,840
He might email yes.

1342
01:50:44,940 --> 01:50:45,120
Okay.

1343
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:48,060
A little more to follow.

1344
01:50:48,620 --> 01:50:49,320
She's been on vacation.

1345
01:50:50,740 --> 01:50:51,520
She's out of the country.

1346
01:50:51,980 --> 01:50:57,260
So what actions this board can this board do tonight to help you move forward other than what

1347
01:50:57,260 --> 01:50:58,000
we just did with the council?

1348
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:05,820
The only other thing that's out there is the replacement of the administrative

1349
01:51:05,820 --> 01:51:11,700
assistant to a new title. What about the zoning administrator's

1350
01:51:12,540 --> 01:51:16,480
health officer? That's one of these, you guys are slow down. I thought we just did

1351
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:20,180
this all around town court. I thought after that we talked about zoning and thought

1352
01:51:20,180 --> 01:51:27,620
you guys just didn't vote on it. Did somebody make a motion on it? No, I'm in a

1353
01:51:27,620 --> 01:51:30,080
different planet because I thought you would made the motion for that one.

1354
01:51:34,980 --> 01:51:35,400
No, Mark

1355
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,580
So yeah, I'm somewhere I'm in there, somewhere I'm in there.

1356
01:51:38,780 --> 01:51:48,630
I'll make a motion that we approve this for the hybrid zoning administrator and health officer.

1357
01:51:50,490 --> 01:51:50,790
Second.

1358
01:51:56,540 --> 01:52:05,440
I mean, if the board wants to take some time to review that one, I think really what it comes down to is on that particular one is the wage.

1359
01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:10,480
I'm concerned that the wage is going to be low and doesn't attract a person.

1360
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:12,100
That's my concern.

1361
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:20,540
So if the board has a concern like that, maybe that's something to discuss and I can

1362
01:52:20,540 --> 01:52:21,440
do something different.

1363
01:52:21,740 --> 01:52:28,680
I think that number that's in there is $28 to $30 per hour and I looked at other towns and

1364
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:29,780
they were advertising.

1365
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:36,440
Under zoning out, nearer in that $28 range. I would say, we've at where it is, and if we have to, hopefully we don't

1366
01:52:36,440 --> 01:52:41,180
have to make adjustments for that. But that seems to be consistent with what I found on Vermont

1367
01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:48,360
Lisa City. And it has great benefits. That's a good job. And that's it. I spent more and more

1368
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:54,800
time on today was health officer with the dead end of the dead dog and the dead cat. And

1369
01:52:54,800 --> 01:53:02,640
And then the Winnock Road sewer thing, and I finally wrote back to her today and said here's

1370
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:08,160
what I believe to be true based on evidence presented and everything else is now between

1371
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:08,940
you and the state of Vermont.

1372
01:53:09,540 --> 01:53:15,380
Well, we went through that, you and I went through that and investigated it in the Darryl

1373
01:53:15,380 --> 01:53:20,540
State, Darryl violations, it was done in compliance with state regulations, so I don't see

1374
01:53:20,540 --> 01:53:22,280
where we need to spend any more time on it.

1375
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,840
So I'm going to call the question on the Hyper-Zoning

1376
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,760
and Health Officer Job Description.

1377
01:53:27,020 --> 01:53:27,580
All of error?

1378
01:53:28,220 --> 01:53:28,380
Hi.

1379
01:53:32,770 --> 01:53:35,130
The System Down Manager Job Description,

1380
01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:37,830
the latest version we just received.

1381
01:53:39,710 --> 01:53:42,930
So if we want to move that one, I'd like to look at a little bit more.

1382
01:53:43,530 --> 01:53:46,530
My opinion in a way you guys can do what you're looking for.

1383
01:53:46,810 --> 01:53:50,010
I think that the salary range might be a little low.

1384
01:53:53,940 --> 01:53:59,360
That's even I talked about that. I agree. I think that that that one might be low

1385
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:00,420
We're paying

1386
01:54:00,420 --> 01:54:02,660
We're paying the form in

1387
01:54:02,660 --> 01:54:04,640
$72,000

1388
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,060
And we're in the zoning administrator who's going to make

1389
01:54:08,380 --> 01:54:09,580
58 to

1390
01:54:09,580 --> 01:54:10,200
62

1391
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:16,080
So is this if this is and can I can I elaborate on this? Yes

1392
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:16,920
so

1393
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:23,920
I leave here in a year and in the half and this is an opportunity to go away from

1394
01:54:23,940 --> 01:54:31,300
the old administrative assistant, you know, I tried with the previous administrative assistants

1395
01:54:31,300 --> 01:54:36,620
to try to get them to look at this in a larger sense and take on more responsibilities

1396
01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:43,120
and compensating for that, but has fallen pretty much like not interested in that, but

1397
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:51,500
if I can groom somebody that under the assistant town manager title, and I'll share with

1398
01:54:51,500 --> 01:54:57,260
if I haven't already by email, this does not give them statutory authorities.

1399
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:03,240
So if they can't just say, I have the same authority that the Taumander has under state statutes,

1400
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,000
or what the select board has given.

1401
01:55:06,660 --> 01:55:08,680
So it's not to replace that.

1402
01:55:08,780 --> 01:55:13,620
It's just that if you get a chance to read through this, you'll see that it's kind of,

1403
01:55:13,620 --> 01:55:16,480
it's got its own pieces, and then it's got supporting role.

1404
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:26,240
And if we approach it now, then that sensor and that manner, as a year from now, is this person

1405
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:30,700
going to be able to be the next castle and town manager?

1406
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,740
If the board says, man, they're doing a really good job, they want to do it.

1407
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,140
You might not have to go on a search.

1408
01:55:36,420 --> 01:55:40,080
You might have somebody right now that knows all the stuff, how we do business in Castleton,

1409
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:44,840
accepts all the stuff that we have, benefits and all that stuff, and you might have somebody

1410
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,580
that can fill a roll where you don't have to go on a search.

1411
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,220
It's just, some of the criteria would be,

1412
01:55:51,220 --> 01:55:52,920
do you want them to be a castle in a resident?

1413
01:55:53,700 --> 01:55:56,240
That might be, you know, something that you'd

1414
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,180
want to be able to make a requirement.

1415
01:55:58,700 --> 01:56:00,260
And if you start training this person, they don't

1416
01:56:00,260 --> 01:56:01,440
live in castle in right now.

1417
01:56:01,780 --> 01:56:04,520
And they get into it and say, go, I really like this.

1418
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:05,260
And they're doing well.

1419
01:56:05,420 --> 01:56:07,720
They might move the castle to take that job.

1420
01:56:08,660 --> 01:56:09,940
It just, it's going to open up some doors

1421
01:56:09,940 --> 01:56:11,900
that they don't think would be there otherwise.

1422
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:13,280
It's going to cost more.

1423
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:28,180
But not that much more, but it depends what you want to get out of this, because when I leave here, I mean, if I get a two or three or four week overlap with someone, that's not enough time.

1424
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:30,940
I didn't have an overlap with anybody.

1425
01:56:31,220 --> 01:56:34,900
It took me over a year just to get my feet underneath me to understand all this stuff.

1426
01:56:34,900 --> 01:56:39,440
And I'm still slipping and sliding on things because it's new or haven't done it before.

1427
01:56:40,300 --> 01:57:00,400
So it's just, I think it, my opinion is if orchestrated well that this could be, that they could maybe move into the job or when I leave they've got a really good grasp of things and the new person has a continuity.

1428
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:07,680
they could assist in getting them in the guy sort of now. No, person. Guy or gal sort of down.

1429
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:16,740
You haven't really had a ball in chain. You can hook it to me, but I'll be caught.

1430
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:22,140
So we're all agreed that we're going to review the assistant town manager.

1431
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:27,420
Job description provide my feedback and have a final version to approve with the next meeting.

1432
01:57:27,420 --> 01:57:35,200
Yeah. Okay. Yep. Roused about. So the roused about position is the one that was at the transfer

1433
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,600
station as the transfer station roused about.

1434
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:44,580
The union agreed to not fill that job and let us

1435
01:57:44,580 --> 01:57:52,820
fill it with a two part time people that we have now. It's worked out well by by all accounts

1436
01:57:52,820 --> 01:57:57,620
by from Heath and from the people that have worked there.

1437
01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:58,960
It's not secret.

1438
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,060
It's Bill Harris and Frank Donovan.

1439
01:58:02,860 --> 01:58:06,720
And so there's two part-time people and Heath as the full-time person.

1440
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,800
And I was up there Saturday visiting check-in on.

1441
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:13,260
And the place was clean.

1442
01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:15,220
It's functioning well.

1443
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:20,860
And the good thing is that when Heath goes on five weeks of vacation a year

1444
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:29,500
or whatever it might be, we have two people that are trained to do that job right now, and I don't want to pull something from the highway crew.

1445
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,120
And they do it well for it.

1446
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,120
Yeah, it's like anything.

1447
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:41,460
Like I said, it took me over a year to figure out most things, and it took them a while to figure it out, but there are much better at it now.

1448
01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:47,600
You know, every time I go up there now, I'm impressed with how good the three of those guys are doing that job.

1449
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:57,120
I'll tell you, heaps is the one that sits in the shack most of the time, but and Bill and Frank are out and about and helping people and picking up and they're doing a really good job.

1450
01:58:57,580 --> 01:59:06,300
I mean the place looks neat, there's no garbage laying around, there's two refrigerant things rather than a hundred that need to be drained out.

1451
01:59:06,420 --> 01:59:11,600
So things are much better up there. And so I approached the union and said,

1452
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:18,600
It's your full-time job, you know, that's when we come up with the route, the routes about position, and they are willing to

1453
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:26,600
change that transfer station routes about to a town routes about and keep the two-part timers up there.

1454
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,100
Because he doesn't want to lose them.

1455
01:59:29,460 --> 01:59:30,940
Because they're just they do a wonderful job.

1456
01:59:31,820 --> 01:59:32,600
And we have continuity.

1457
01:59:33,180 --> 01:59:36,880
When he's on vacation, we still have two people there, and I don't have to go to Jeff Sandball.

1458
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:38,520
I need to pull somebody to work.

1459
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:43,060
as well as the union agreed to this now? So that was, I guess I should have started with that.

1460
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:51,160
So it's with the union rep, asked me rep. He is not responded back, but I thought the

1461
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:57,080
Evan last week and today and he has no issues with it as the union steward. It's getting the

1462
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,960
but ask me rep to buy off on that.

1463
02:00:00,270 --> 02:00:05,430
So what do we need to do to get him to do that? Because he's had it for some weeks or at least at least.

1464
02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:11,890
At least, no. This is me paying him again saying you're holding up hiring a feeling a union job.

1465
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:15,410
You know, that seems to be there. We get Evan to beat him up a little too.

1466
02:00:15,710 --> 02:00:21,190
Evan said he's taught to him or called him and he hasn't even responded to that. That was that's it today.

1467
02:00:22,650 --> 02:00:24,210
So I just got to pay him again.

1468
02:00:24,590 --> 02:00:25,430
Yes, that's what he can do.

1469
02:00:25,490 --> 02:00:28,250
He can be under union when Nick is being full-time.

1470
02:00:29,590 --> 02:00:34,890
because they did a way with that union job that was at the transfer station and agreed that

1471
02:00:35,570 --> 02:00:40,850
the of the townwide rouse about would be much more beneficial was that you heard of their

1472
02:00:40,850 --> 02:00:46,610
agreement because why does this have to be a union job because because right now that union

1473
02:00:46,610 --> 02:00:51,790
job that they agreed not to fill because of the part-timers they agreed not to fill it to fill

1474
02:00:51,790 --> 02:00:56,930
this use this so if we didn't do that then they're going to say we might want to just fill

1475
02:00:56,930 --> 02:00:58,890
that union job that they want to get rid of you.

1476
02:00:59,110 --> 02:01:01,450
No, no, I'm just being the devil's advocate here for a second.

1477
02:01:02,470 --> 02:01:05,830
So the only real stumbling block would be the hourly wage at this point.

1478
02:01:07,050 --> 02:01:07,070
Yeah.

1479
02:01:07,610 --> 02:01:09,490
Which this, yes, it's a difference.

1480
02:01:10,610 --> 02:01:13,470
Then what the transfer station roused about this pay.

1481
02:01:14,210 --> 02:01:15,930
Like $1.85.

1482
02:01:16,670 --> 02:01:18,230
What our shop store is okay with?

1483
02:01:18,450 --> 02:01:18,890
Yes.

1484
02:01:19,930 --> 02:01:22,330
Yeah, our shop store is, as I said,

1485
02:01:22,650 --> 02:01:23,670
I have no issues with this whatsoever.

1486
02:01:23,950 --> 02:01:24,390
So let's,

1487
02:01:25,110 --> 02:01:31,990
What I did ask, the union rep is that not just to look at the the verbiage in the job description,

1488
02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:36,710
but the wage, because the wage scale that's in the union contract, doesn't have that position.

1489
02:01:37,230 --> 02:01:39,490
They got added in there, and that's the hold-up.

1490
02:01:40,030 --> 02:01:43,250
I think the language in it is what's stopping.

1491
02:01:43,450 --> 02:01:46,590
I think the whole language is.

1492
02:01:46,830 --> 02:01:47,990
Or a wage.

1493
02:01:48,330 --> 02:01:50,910
I think it's in the town's best interest to move forward with this.

1494
02:01:50,910 --> 02:01:59,910
Do what you got to do to make some noise so that we get to get the union to either approve this or provide its feedback as to what it's going to take to get approved.

1495
02:02:00,430 --> 02:02:03,610
I'll make a honey badger don't give a shit thing to statement.

1496
02:02:04,090 --> 02:02:06,030
Is that.

1497
02:02:06,230 --> 02:02:15,430
Usually with unions, if they're going to change their pay scale in there, they're going to look at their other jobs in there and compare them and say,

1498
02:02:15,430 --> 02:02:20,850
Oh, we probably have to adjust somebody else's and it's just typically how it works.

1499
02:02:21,810 --> 02:02:27,510
Just maybe I'm maybe I'm being a pessimist, but that's what I've seen happen in the past.

1500
02:02:28,010 --> 02:02:34,410
So maybe that's what they're he's working on is some counter proposal to this, but I just he's a communicate with me.

1501
02:02:36,150 --> 02:02:51,410
And I think this job, when it's filled, will save the town a lot of money, like in the long run and I think just with all the stupid stuff that you got to pay somebody $200 to do this or $400 to do this, I mean this would be a good job for somebody and this will be good for the town.

1502
02:02:51,930 --> 02:02:58,150
Yeah, we just had some locks changed through a contractor and it was $500 for the locks in the labor.

1503
02:02:58,150 --> 02:03:03,270
I mean, just for example, for like, you talked about having to go pull the water pump and stuff out across the beach.

1504
02:03:03,410 --> 02:03:04,650
That would be this guy's delivering.

1505
02:03:05,190 --> 02:03:11,170
This person's position, and rather than have to pull the highway department off from what they should be doing.

1506
02:03:13,910 --> 02:03:19,070
And if you look at this part of this money for the rouse, it comes out of the highway department.

1507
02:03:19,390 --> 02:03:24,690
They'd be working doing some of that stuff that rouse about issue, not like cleaning bathrooms.

1508
02:03:24,690 --> 02:03:34,490
And that's a, I've already made that clear that this is an a job for someone to do tasks that you don't want to do like clean bathrooms or sweep the floor.

1509
02:03:36,690 --> 02:03:42,670
Well, this person will be reporting to you or your delegate anyway, so it should be able to control.

1510
02:03:42,670 --> 02:03:51,230
I don't have a phone or department specifically, so I do have authority to say, no we're going to move them over here and, you know, I'm not going to be a tyrant, but.

1511
02:03:51,230 --> 02:03:58,590
Yes, no I understand, my opinion and I think it's probably the consensus of this board is once you get approved from the Union, go ahead and advertise it.

1512
02:04:00,390 --> 02:04:02,350
You can be all agree with that? Yeah, do we want to agree?

1513
02:04:02,730 --> 02:04:03,310
Motion on.

1514
02:04:04,090 --> 02:04:05,830
Do we need to make a motion?

1515
02:04:07,110 --> 02:04:19,430
Well, here's a, for the town to approve the job description, I know that, because it's going to be, it's not bargain yet, so there's going to be a sidebar letter with the Union saying add this to the Union contract, here's the wage scale.

1516
02:04:19,430 --> 02:04:33,350
So at least if the select board is approved, the job description, or pass that, or over that row, I would make a motion to approve the job description of the routes to go for the town of Castle.

1517
02:04:33,870 --> 02:04:34,150
Second.

1518
02:04:35,010 --> 02:04:35,410
Any discussion?

1519
02:04:36,490 --> 02:04:37,050
All of it.

1520
02:04:38,290 --> 02:04:39,710
All right.

1521
02:04:39,730 --> 02:04:40,270
Thank you.

1522
02:04:40,710 --> 02:04:42,210
Copy your lease for the office.

1523
02:04:42,750 --> 02:04:46,150
I put that on here, and after I put it on there, I'm like, I don't know why I put it on there.

1524
02:04:47,110 --> 02:04:52,850
So up, but I'll make you aware that our contract, why these are, there's a good timing.

1525
02:04:53,470 --> 02:04:58,030
Our copier has been cost in us, given us fits in cost in us money, especially as sewer bills

1526
02:04:58,030 --> 02:05:03,170
were due and Megan was threatened because the copier was down, but our contract runs out

1527
02:05:03,170 --> 02:05:03,530
in September.

1528
02:05:04,190 --> 02:05:04,650
And guess what?

1529
02:05:04,730 --> 02:05:07,450
This thing started breaking down and having problems in September.

1530
02:05:07,450 --> 02:05:16,510
So, they gave me three quotes to replace the copier at the police station and at the town

1531
02:05:16,510 --> 02:05:16,990
office.

1532
02:05:18,090 --> 02:05:21,410
And I went with the smiley, I think it's called.

1533
02:05:21,610 --> 02:05:28,690
It was the good reputable place and they're cost per copy for color and black and white.

1534
02:05:28,870 --> 02:05:31,990
We're the cheapest of all of them and they're local.

1535
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:38,710
So I'm like, we're moving forward, we're going to get to, because that thing is, it's old.

1536
02:05:38,930 --> 02:05:41,350
It's already four or five years old.

1537
02:05:42,030 --> 02:05:45,510
It was Melanie, when Melanie was here early on, this is when we got that thing.

1538
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:49,190
So it's, it's getting to the point where it's always breaking down,

1539
02:05:49,290 --> 02:05:51,790
co-throwing codes and they have to come out.

1540
02:05:51,890 --> 02:05:54,950
McGee office products comes out and they fix it and they finally said,

1541
02:05:55,330 --> 02:05:56,710
you might want to think about replacing this.

1542
02:05:57,070 --> 02:05:59,890
Well, low and behold, the contracts up in September anyway.

1543
02:06:00,290 --> 02:06:01,970
And by the way, we're not going with McGee.

1544
02:06:04,190 --> 02:06:06,890
So anyway, so I just want to let you know that.

1545
02:06:07,470 --> 02:06:08,610
Okay, tax ill policy.

1546
02:06:10,510 --> 02:06:16,310
Nothing besides, because Megan's out, I'm not sure if you guys knew that with her son

1547
02:06:16,310 --> 02:06:20,130
being out, she's been embossed in with him, so she's been out for two weeks.

1548
02:06:20,750 --> 02:06:25,710
So she didn't have a chance to get all the properties put together in a list for tax ill,

1549
02:06:25,810 --> 02:06:27,330
but she will have that for the next meeting.

1550
02:06:27,330 --> 02:06:44,990
But to review the, I'd ask the board review the tax sale policy before the next meeting so that when the list comes before you, you understand, I guess the criteria, because what's going to be on the list is the ones that are eligible for sewer and property tax.

1551
02:06:45,350 --> 02:06:55,110
But after that last meeting, met between Megan myself and the town clerk's office, we did get some visits from people saying, why is this stuff not up for tax sale?

1552
02:06:56,410 --> 02:07:01,650
And without me going into long explanations about that we don't want people to lose their homes

1553
02:07:01,650 --> 02:07:06,350
and but we also, you know, people that do pay their taxes not fair to them, go on to that

1554
02:07:06,350 --> 02:07:06,790
whole spiel.

1555
02:07:07,170 --> 02:07:10,710
We just said, more to follow, it's like we're just going to be looking at the list once it's

1556
02:07:10,710 --> 02:07:11,010
published.

1557
02:07:12,330 --> 02:07:18,910
But I also asked Megan to look at finding another attorney so we have two attorneys because

1558
02:07:19,370 --> 02:07:24,050
the one that we have now won't do more than 12, because this is a lot of time and research

1559
02:07:24,050 --> 02:07:29,970
on it. So we might have to go with two attorneys if we got 25 properties. And the board decides.

1560
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,060
As they want to put all 25 properties that are eligible up for taxo.

1561
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:40,300
Because I don't know how you're not going to do, you're not put all of them up there when everybody's eligible by the policy.

1562
02:07:41,420 --> 02:07:46,100
I think if you start picking sand, well, that one's only 500, really, but that's what the policy says.

1563
02:07:47,420 --> 02:07:51,700
Because the same person will come in and say, I have a tree on my property and I want the town to take it down.

1564
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:54,000
You took it down for Mary Jo over the next door.

1565
02:07:57,620 --> 02:07:58,380
I don't know.

1566
02:07:58,380 --> 02:07:59,540
I don't know.

1567
02:07:59,720 --> 02:07:59,900
I don't know.

1568
02:07:59,900 --> 02:08:02,620
Unless you have justification of why you would not put somebody else.

1569
02:08:02,740 --> 02:08:07,620
Like if someone said I'll do a payment plan, that's in the tax policy, but it has to

1570
02:08:08,700 --> 02:08:12,120
be an amount that they don't get 10 years to pay it back.

1571
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:18,400
That seems to be the downside for some is when we say, no, we can't go five years.

1572
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:26,100
We can go 18 months and you divide that into what they owe and that's $2,000 a month.

1573
02:08:28,970 --> 02:08:30,370
I didn't put you in that position.

1574
02:08:31,410 --> 02:08:33,110
What the thing of it is,

1575
02:08:35,330 --> 02:08:38,030
more is accumulating, too.

1576
02:08:39,330 --> 02:08:48,450
So if they're paying $500 a month on backpacks, backpacks, are they paying anything on current taxes?

1577
02:08:49,750 --> 02:08:53,990
For the most part, what happens now, unless they want, they say they want different, something

1578
02:08:54,490 --> 02:08:59,250
different, there are any money they pay in addition to their taxes or towards your taxes

1579
02:08:59,250 --> 02:09:01,030
go through their delinquencies.

1580
02:09:01,670 --> 02:09:05,690
So if they come in and pay, and they think that their pay and towards their current taxes,

1581
02:09:06,010 --> 02:09:11,430
our policy says it goes to the oldest first, and if they don't know that, and I've had

1582
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:16,150
Megan told her, you need to tell people that, so that they don't think that they've

1583
02:09:16,150 --> 02:09:18,750
paying their current taxes, and they're not.

1584
02:09:20,430 --> 02:09:26,170
But our policy says, if they want to say, I want it to go toward my current taxes, not

1585
02:09:26,170 --> 02:09:28,750
my back taxes, they can do that.

1586
02:09:28,810 --> 02:09:31,770
But then they also know that their properties becomes eligible.

1587
02:09:32,610 --> 02:09:34,830
If it meets the criteria, they're eligible for taxes.

1588
02:09:36,190 --> 02:09:41,470
So it's a double it's or you pay towards your delinquencies, and then you're behind on

1589
02:09:41,470 --> 02:09:48,590
current taxes eventually you're going to get that to that one-year period where you meet if you meet that criteria

1590
02:09:48,590 --> 02:09:54,370
Because that's the one back one year. That's a new state policy. And what is the interest on it?

1591
02:09:54,490 --> 02:09:57,270
It's a high like eight point something percent

1592
02:09:57,270 --> 02:10:00,350
So it makes sense that people would want to pay the oldest stuff first

1593
02:10:00,890 --> 02:10:05,090
But some people come in and they're adamant like I can pay towards it. Okay,

1594
02:10:08,090 --> 02:10:10,710
but did you say your current taxes but still go up for tax

1595
02:10:12,370 --> 02:10:16,010
Because the, the, the, the, our readers, the, um, the

1596
02:10:16,010 --> 02:10:18,830
delinquencies have to be in effect for one year.

1597
02:10:20,050 --> 02:10:22,670
That's, that was a change to the state, uh, statutes.

1598
02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:29,830
So, uh, we change the tax ill policy to be able to accommodate that.

1599
02:10:29,830 --> 02:10:34,170
So, how, like, I know we've talked about not wanting to kick people out of their homes

1600
02:10:34,170 --> 02:10:37,950
and all that and trying to work with them with the payment plan that how often do the people

1601
02:10:37,950 --> 02:10:43,190
get on a payment plan and actually stick with it versus how often do people start out and then

1602
02:10:43,190 --> 02:10:49,370
just Peter off of them. I said we're probably three to four out of ten. Stick with it.

1603
02:10:51,150 --> 02:10:53,250
To a less than 50%.

1604
02:10:55,750 --> 02:10:59,090
I'm going to have to read the policy because I'm not familiar with it.

1605
02:10:59,230 --> 02:11:05,190
So, it was an action item for all of us. How are you doing getting us our policy books?

1606
02:11:05,670 --> 02:11:12,810
Jenny was into that and since she's left it's stagnant right now, but she was she was she made some headway on it

1607
02:11:12,810 --> 02:11:15,190
That's online ready. You can find it on the

1608
02:11:15,190 --> 02:11:19,470
So probably the best way to find it is just to go in the search bar up top a little

1609
02:11:19,470 --> 02:11:22,870
Magifying glass and type in tax policy and it'll bring it to it

1610
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:27,390
Best way to find it is just having a wife pulled up on the computer formula. You're really good. You're sick of me

1611
02:11:29,470 --> 02:11:31,310
That's what I do it call you

1612
02:11:32,130 --> 02:11:38,750
So, but yeah, so that's that would be for next meeting to get the current list to the board.

1613
02:11:39,710 --> 02:11:44,070
Because she also needed one of the reasons why she told me that she had to apply interest.

1614
02:11:44,910 --> 02:11:50,310
And so when you do she had she needed to have current numbers because it might put somebody to the point where they are now

1615
02:11:51,370 --> 02:11:59,070
Delanquent that it's been a year and they meet the criteria. So she had to figure all the penalties interested in and then give me the list.

1616
02:11:59,070 --> 02:12:05,190
So, should be back at the end of this week, so before next meeting, I'll have it for your package.

1617
02:12:06,110 --> 02:12:08,730
Well, we're going to move on to Town Forest.

1618
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:13,170
Scott's not here, so I really don't have the end to share with you.

1619
02:12:13,310 --> 02:12:15,590
Right, then move on to Town Wide beautification.

1620
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:17,990
Yes, that I do have.

1621
02:12:18,150 --> 02:12:20,330
Do you have a whole job all the way around?

1622
02:12:20,490 --> 02:12:21,750
Yeah, it's amazing.

1623
02:12:22,150 --> 02:12:25,570
I only give congratulations to all the people that have worked on that.

1624
02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:28,050
It's been really pleasant.

1625
02:12:29,210 --> 02:12:34,590
Pleasant to see the changes to meet improvements and they're and they're more than willing to help

1626
02:12:34,590 --> 02:12:39,170
It's sometimes it's like, you know slow down speed racer. We like, you know

1627
02:12:39,170 --> 02:12:41,990
We ordered plants. We ordered trubs. We ordered trees

1628
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:48,950
They started working on the one on the east side. They the stone, but they ran into some problems with the the stone was crumbling

1629
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:53,930
It wasn't a good stone say to go back and see if they get some more, but they started it

1630
02:12:54,610 --> 02:12:58,790
That day I told you they I was going on a

1631
02:12:58,790 --> 02:13:03,630
So I drove out there just to see it and I got out there and like, no, we're not there yet.

1632
02:13:04,270 --> 02:13:09,170
They're building, they're still building the stone vet around it.

1633
02:13:09,430 --> 02:13:13,670
But they did, they did work on the one in front of the highway garage.

1634
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:19,790
And I talked to them about the one at the transfer station, helped clean in that up.

1635
02:13:20,270 --> 02:13:27,790
But they've got the library, or not the library, the post office, the beach, the town office, the fire station.

1636
02:13:30,690 --> 02:13:38,890
Well, the parking ride, and now the welcome sign on the East Ended Town on 4A and the

1637
02:13:38,890 --> 02:13:42,090
one down at Hydeville next to McCleur's.

1638
02:13:42,370 --> 02:13:47,190
They started clearing that out around it, and the town crew helped a lot.

1639
02:13:48,170 --> 02:13:51,570
They've done some plantings, they've done some digging, and so it's been a collaborative

1640
02:13:51,570 --> 02:13:52,150
effort.

1641
02:13:52,150 --> 02:14:05,450
And really appreciative, I did get some gift cards for them to share and they can, as a thank you to them, and then I gave them some purchase orders so they could get some stuff from Gilmore's.

1642
02:14:07,550 --> 02:14:15,630
It's been a really pleasant experience and I think, you know, next year when it really starts everything spilled out, you know, people will start commenting.

1643
02:14:15,630 --> 02:14:18,650
Please, please pass on our gratitude and thanks.

1644
02:14:19,010 --> 02:14:19,610
There will.

1645
02:14:20,250 --> 02:14:21,750
Mary, you see, you got your hand up.

1646
02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:23,190
I noticed it a moment ago.

1647
02:14:24,530 --> 02:14:24,690
Yeah.

1648
02:14:24,730 --> 02:14:27,550
I had a question going back to the town for us.

1649
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:30,310
If you recall the last lecture, we're meeting you.

1650
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:34,790
You asked me to put you on touch with the state force or mark the right chart.

1651
02:14:35,550 --> 02:14:37,670
And I just wanted to confirm that you got that email.

1652
02:14:37,950 --> 02:14:38,990
I did get that from you.

1653
02:14:39,110 --> 02:14:41,610
I haven't taken any action on it yet, but I did get it.

1654
02:14:42,050 --> 02:14:42,150
Okay.

1655
02:14:42,150 --> 02:14:45,430
You see, no Scott does that.

1656
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:50,650
Okay, let's move on.

1657
02:14:51,330 --> 02:14:55,150
Not anything on the Merff for the Rex Center or Parks?

1658
02:14:55,770 --> 02:14:55,790
No.

1659
02:14:56,370 --> 02:14:59,970
Just now that the issue came up with the building and the...

1660
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:23,760
Move, what I need to confirm with that program that fund is, is roof-fixing roof replacement part of that grant, or an SIG grant. The loan fund, because that's a loan, and the board would have to agree to the repayment.

1661
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:28,480
depending it's up to $250,000 and over a 10-year period.

1662
02:15:28,660 --> 02:15:33,820
It says $25,000 a year, it's no interest, no administrative fees, so it's free money,

1663
02:15:34,060 --> 02:15:37,200
this far as like no interest on it.

1664
02:15:37,380 --> 02:15:42,300
But the board would have to approve that because you'd have to put in my opinion, you'd

1665
02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:52,840
have to put the $25,000 to repay the loan in the CVS Rec Center building budget, because

1666
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:56,660
you want to place it, because the buildings all have their own accounts.

1667
02:15:58,500 --> 02:16:05,620
So that would raise the building, if you recall on the budget worksheet, government buildings

1668
02:16:05,620 --> 02:16:12,560
is three items, it's the PSV, the town office, and the rex in it.

1669
02:16:13,340 --> 02:16:20,160
So when the voters vote on it, they're approving all of it, but when we budget it out, it's

1670
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:23,980
broken up into those three different places.

1671
02:16:24,460 --> 02:16:30,820
So you'd be adding, in this case, if you bore $250,000 to get all this work done in this

1672
02:16:30,820 --> 02:16:34,640
building, you'd be putting $25,000 additional in the budget.

1673
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:40,380
Now, there's a plus to this, I mean, you know, maybe it's not a plus.

1674
02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:43,340
We haven't been spending all the money on the fuel oil.

1675
02:16:43,900 --> 02:16:49,640
Now, this year, we get close with the heating oil prices the way they are, but in the

1676
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:56,200
we haven't spent all that so there is some money there that would be not used and so the

1677
02:16:56,200 --> 02:17:00,120
argument could be well that's good that the voters don't need so much in the budget but we

1678
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:05,840
also know that this building has a bunch of repairs that are needed so it that's as a

1679
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:09,540
whole true it helps you that we may not use as much fuel oil but we still need to replace

1680
02:17:09,540 --> 02:17:17,920
other things the leak I did that's on this yeah it's on here so I can wait to it but

1681
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:25,740
As far as the Murph goes, I'll follow up with it because the VLCT is not an industry in

1682
02:17:25,740 --> 02:17:26,140
this anymore.

1683
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:27,600
They're not helping us.

1684
02:17:27,980 --> 02:17:35,540
They said, no, if you want, you got to go through the Vermont's BGS and we're going to build

1685
02:17:35,540 --> 02:17:36,460
these general services.

1686
02:17:36,980 --> 02:17:40,780
So that's how I have to deal with now to find out what's eligible.

1687
02:17:42,140 --> 02:17:47,440
Because the gym lights are a big thing and working through efficiency Vermont to try to get

1688
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:51,060
some subsidy to replace the gym lights,

1689
02:17:51,440 --> 02:17:54,200
because the majority of our $14,000 a year

1690
02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:56,620
electrical bill comes from those lights.

1691
02:17:58,750 --> 02:18:00,110
Oh, these lights are different.

1692
02:18:00,390 --> 02:18:01,810
They look the gym lights, aren't they?

1693
02:18:01,890 --> 02:18:03,990
Wait, wait, yeah.

1694
02:18:04,390 --> 02:18:06,030
Yeah, V9, so if we could fix a roof

1695
02:18:06,030 --> 02:18:07,390
and replace those lights,

1696
02:18:07,950 --> 02:18:09,930
because we had the lights at one point,

1697
02:18:10,050 --> 02:18:13,030
we had the lights and the heating system components,

1698
02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:16,070
the heat exchangers, the blowers rebuilt,

1699
02:18:16,070 --> 02:18:25,190
And if they would, if they could be done on that money, it wouldn't have to be, we wouldn't have

1700
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:30,030
to use it out of the building budget because we've got plenty to, we're spending that

1701
02:18:30,030 --> 02:18:30,550
on anyway.

1702
02:18:32,250 --> 02:18:38,530
So the, the, the needs are greater than the budget at this point with this building.

1703
02:18:38,530 --> 02:18:39,290
Let's

1704
02:18:42,490 --> 02:18:49,170
talk about the update on the Vermont Sports Medicine and then we'll move back to the roof.

1705
02:18:49,630 --> 02:18:52,650
I did meet with a rep from Vermont Sports Medicine today.

1706
02:18:52,930 --> 02:18:56,250
I let him know about the leak and the roof and Paul McCleur.

1707
02:18:56,750 --> 02:19:03,630
So they believe that they have found the leak area, but there has to be some roof sheeding.

1708
02:19:04,150 --> 02:19:06,710
That needs to be screwed down, it's kind of peeling up.

1709
02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:08,890
And they can patch it.

1710
02:19:08,890 --> 02:19:15,950
I did let them the Vermont Sports Medicine guy know and he looked at me like what we plan on being in here

1711
02:19:15,950 --> 02:19:19,190
I'm on October and now you're telling me you got a leak in the roof you got a fix

1712
02:19:19,190 --> 02:19:23,510
And so I told them we're work actively working on it

1713
02:19:23,510 --> 02:19:32,130
And the clearer construction is spoke to two different vendors or roofers to see if they would have the capacity to do it

1714
02:19:32,130 --> 02:19:36,870
I mean I can do it I can I already reached out to Seth Dirkie

1715
02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:41,650
and I reached out to Jake Helm from premier. He never ate it called me back, but Seth did.

1716
02:19:42,590 --> 02:19:47,890
But I didn't, I didn't get my answer because I wanted to find out what was wrong first. I'm asking

1717
02:19:47,890 --> 02:19:52,310
to do something and I don't really, because the heat or the air change around the roof,

1718
02:19:52,670 --> 02:19:57,950
the air handler, that was always, I was told, oh my God, it's sinking in. It's, and when they

1719
02:19:57,950 --> 02:20:03,570
looked at it, they're like, it's, it's not sinking in. There's, there's probably some,

1720
02:20:03,570 --> 02:20:07,910
right going on around some of the sheeding on it, but it's not going to collapse through

1721
02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:13,430
the ceiling, but does these work? What I recommended and I taught when I taught the Paul was

1722
02:20:14,750 --> 02:20:19,910
a set of stripping this roof off is to put metal over the top of it.

1723
02:20:20,250 --> 02:20:27,650
Fixed it, yet make sure everything is, it's, it's, you know, dried in and then fix it in,

1724
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:31,070
put metal over the top of it.

1725
02:20:31,070 --> 02:20:38,210
and they have different applications now for standing seam or corrugated or whatever.

1726
02:20:38,450 --> 02:20:41,970
I think probably on this roof, like the other one would be standing seam on a margin,

1727
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:43,330
that's what they're going to recommend.

1728
02:20:45,570 --> 02:20:47,610
But I just want, I guess, want some of the

1729
02:20:47,610 --> 02:20:54,770
assess that what can be done and the cost associated with it and the timeline. Because if they

1730
02:20:54,770 --> 02:20:59,310
fix the patch and the patch doesn't hold and it's leaking in the middle of the winter,

1731
02:20:59,310 --> 02:21:03,550
when we have thoughts and we're going to big problems and we have, we're, we're a landlord now.

1732
02:21:04,890 --> 02:21:05,610
I'm going to come to this responsibility.

1733
02:21:06,290 --> 02:21:08,170
I'm a big fan of getting done right once.

1734
02:21:09,710 --> 02:21:16,390
So, more to follow but that, that was, I let them know, McLean still hasn't put the, the dormer

1735
02:21:16,390 --> 02:21:18,890
over that, their main entrance story yet.

1736
02:21:19,230 --> 02:21:21,870
We have the line striping that the town is going to do.

1737
02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:27,730
I've met with Evan and Jeff today and they're going to practice down the park and ride the,

1738
02:21:27,730 --> 02:21:33,630
the spray gun to make sure that we don't have a lot of overspray, because they did have overspray.

1739
02:21:36,550 --> 02:21:40,890
So I've let them know everything that's gone on here. There's some lights that need to

1740
02:21:40,890 --> 02:21:47,930
get fixed, some balance or order for that. We should be ready to let them move in on the first.

1741
02:21:48,370 --> 02:21:56,630
If the leak can be fixed and then the roof can be worked on over the next few weeks after that.

1742
02:21:56,630 --> 02:22:02,590
At least they can move in, because they don't want to put carpet down and have the water come down to the roof on the new carpet.

1743
02:22:04,590 --> 02:22:05,530
I agree with that.

1744
02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:09,610
So, they asked me a couple of other things about keys.

1745
02:22:10,190 --> 02:22:11,530
I told them they want seven keys.

1746
02:22:11,690 --> 02:22:12,130
I said no problem.

1747
02:22:12,130 --> 02:22:12,950
I can do that.

1748
02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:16,610
And then there's that little room on the corner that we have tables in.

1749
02:22:16,850 --> 02:22:19,570
They said, can we use that for some temporary storage?

1750
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:24,150
And I'm like, if you help move all the stuff out of it.

1751
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:29,970
to one of these other rooms for temporary, you know, I let them use it to, they got some stuff in the basement down there that they need to.

1752
02:22:31,320 --> 02:22:41,700
Get out of there right now. By say, if it's temporary, like 30 days, temporary. So that's it for the building.

1753
02:22:42,460 --> 02:22:47,960
So the room here, hopefully, you'll be getting feedback from the McCourt McLears this week.

1754
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:52,720
They reached out to those two contractors, one local, one in Burlington,

1755
02:22:55,160 --> 02:22:58,340
just to see what they had to say, and somebody they wanted to come down, look at it.

1756
02:22:58,340 --> 02:23:02,440
given us a bid without looking at it makes no sense.

1757
02:23:02,460 --> 02:23:03,960
I agree with that.

1758
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:12,140
Okay, manager's report. I think we've pretty well covered.

1759
02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:13,440
Yeah, I think we have more information.

1760
02:23:14,300 --> 02:23:15,520
Did this point?

1761
02:23:19,700 --> 02:23:21,260
No, not to we have more info.

1762
02:23:30,820 --> 02:23:30,960
All right.

1763
02:23:31,160 --> 02:23:31,760
Herge's orders.

1764
02:23:36,740 --> 02:23:45,380
I would make a motion to approve purchase order number zero five six one seven four two innovative solutions for the sum of

1765
02:23:45,380 --> 02:23:57,480
$3,454.37 in that is for the 2,626 gallons of calcium for a second.

1766
02:23:58,220 --> 02:23:59,220
All in favor?

1767
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:00,080
All right.

1768
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:03,480
We'll make a motion to approve.

1769
02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:08,620
purchase order number is zero five six one eight three two brown sporey slate for the

1770
02:24:08,620 --> 02:24:13,260
sum of eight thousand three hundred and seventy two dollars and that is for black

1771
02:24:13,260 --> 02:24:15,660
three eight minus four winter store.

1772
02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:16,220
Second.

1773
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:18,900
All of ever?

1774
02:24:19,100 --> 02:24:19,300
Hi.

1775
02:24:19,300 --> 02:24:19,740
Hi.

1776
02:24:23,550 --> 02:24:29,690
Make a motion to approve purchase order number zero five six three one two two M&T bank credit card

1777
02:24:29,690 --> 02:24:34,890
for the sum of two thousand nine hundred sixty one dollars and ninety cents and that is for

1778
02:24:34,890 --> 02:24:38,890
trees and shrubs for our miscellaneous departments and tellemands.

1779
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:39,550
Second.

1780
02:24:41,090 --> 02:24:41,630
All in favour?

1781
02:24:42,130 --> 02:24:42,350
Hi.

1782
02:24:45,100 --> 02:24:53,500
Make a motion to approve portrait order number 056317 to Fuston O'Neill for the sum of $6333 and one

1783
02:24:53,500 --> 02:24:57,160
cent and that is for the downtown pedestrian improvement project.

1784
02:24:57,780 --> 02:24:58,300
Second.

1785
02:25:00,140 --> 02:25:00,620
All in favour?

1786
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:01,660
All in favour?

1787
02:25:01,900 --> 02:25:02,060
All in favour?

1788
02:25:02,060 --> 02:25:04,660
Can I give you an update on that?

1789
02:25:09,270 --> 02:25:16,500
They started, they're starting this week to do their survey through the fuss on the

1790
02:25:16,500 --> 02:25:16,940
meal.

1791
02:25:17,660 --> 02:25:25,050
So that's going to start, because that's all part of that historical preservation stuff.

1792
02:25:26,130 --> 02:25:27,230
So that's starting.

1793
02:25:34,980 --> 02:25:35,320
All right.

1794
02:25:36,900 --> 02:25:37,540
All right.

1795
02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:38,980
All right.

1796
02:25:38,980 --> 02:25:40,060
All right.

1797
02:25:40,060 --> 02:25:44,660
or number zero five six three two zero two in the floor construction for the

1798
02:25:44,660 --> 02:25:48,160
eighty bathrooms in the rex center for the sum of twenty four thousand three

1799
02:25:52,380 --> 02:25:56,980
hundred I do want to let the bathroom's right across our hall when you

1800
02:25:56,980 --> 02:26:00,640
look at you open it up you think if it was if it was a stainless steel toilet

1801
02:26:00,640 --> 02:26:05,200
you think you've been year in jail it's just a room with a toilet some hand

1802
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:12,280
rab rails, a sink, and I questioned the contractor why it cost 24,000 dollars for that.

1803
02:26:12,560 --> 02:26:19,820
It was because of the water, hot water, I don't remember in the gym, they had to cut it off

1804
02:26:19,820 --> 02:26:24,620
underneath it, it was leaking under the floor, so that was all turned off, they had to reroute

1805
02:26:24,620 --> 02:26:29,500
all that water up into that bathroom at the top of the stairs, up through the walls,

1806
02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:30,940
and it's all new.

1807
02:26:30,940 --> 02:26:39,240
And so I talked to him. I talked to Paul and he said the money you had is in the copper and the labor and and it's all the stuff you don't see

1808
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:44,800
Yeah, so when you open the door I said that's twenty three thousand four hundred dollars and the answer is

1809
02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:50,340
You you paid for the water to get water up to all those bathrooms hot water

1810
02:26:50,340 --> 02:26:55,560
So when you look in that bathroom looks straight up over your head and all the way and you'll see all that new copper

1811
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:00,980
Thank you

1812
02:27:00,980 --> 02:27:04,260
Do you like all that questions? No. All of favor?

1813
02:27:04,360 --> 02:27:04,660
Hi.

1814
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:08,140
All right.

1815
02:27:08,140 --> 02:27:10,720
I'll make a motion to approve per sort of number 0.5.

1816
02:27:10,760 --> 02:27:14,740
$6,400 for the sum of $3,651

1817
02:27:14,740 --> 02:27:19,220
to Cattele's Tax and Kama Incorporated

1818
02:27:19,220 --> 02:27:21,860
for Patriot Classic Maintenance Support.

1819
02:27:22,220 --> 02:27:24,440
Second. All in favor?

1820
02:27:24,580 --> 02:27:25,240
Hi. All in favor?

1821
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:25,280
Hi.

1822
02:27:28,700 --> 02:27:32,000
Would make a motion to approve per sort of number 0.5.

1823
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:41,500
6, 4, 1, 3, 2, Alan and Shelley higher for the sum of $17,000, $15.43 for the Taxale Properties

1824
02:27:41,500 --> 02:27:42,460
sold payments.

1825
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:52,000
It's $14,000 on my sheet, I got $17 on the thing here, pretty sure if you look back at

1826
02:27:52,000 --> 02:28:00,040
$17 if you look at the goods in here on the cover sheet, I believe so, it wouldn't be the

1827
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:00,960
first time we got that.

1828
02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:08,700
if you look at the town tax surplus letter 17,000, 15 dollars in cash, I think what you got was

1829
02:28:08,700 --> 02:28:16,760
minus the interest fees in cost and I'll, the total number, yeah, I think it was an error.

1830
02:28:18,580 --> 02:28:22,500
17,000, 15 dollars and 43 cents. That's what's on Birch's order.

1831
02:28:26,940 --> 02:28:27,500
Yep.

1832
02:28:27,500 --> 02:28:34,840
you where Mr. Higher passed away and we're working now joking to me today and

1833
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:40,220
said I don't I think we made the check out to him so we are going to verify that

1834
02:28:40,220 --> 02:28:44,780
and correct it so Shelley can catch the check

1835
02:28:51,820 --> 02:28:54,220
ready for warrants I'm ready for

1836
02:28:54,220 --> 02:28:59,240
warrants make a motion to approve warrant number zero nine one four r for some of seven

1837
02:28:59,240 --> 02:29:06,200
$100 or $0.001 for the sum of $315 and $6.65 or

1838
02:29:06,200 --> 02:29:20,220
numbers $0.001 for the sum of $58,365 and $0.001 for the sum of $164,664,6233

1839
02:29:20,220 --> 02:29:28,960
and $0.001 for the sum of $0.001 for the sum of $0.001 for the sum of $0.001

1840
02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:45,140
or at number 0903p for the sum of 24,962 cents and at number 090p for the sum of 23,828 dollars and 14 cents.

1841
02:29:45,140 --> 02:29:46,100
Thank you.

1842
02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:46,960
All in favour?

1843
02:29:47,460 --> 02:29:47,700
Bye.

1844
02:29:47,820 --> 02:29:47,900
Bye.

1845
02:30:24,820 --> 02:30:26,740
That's a text that makes sense.

1846
02:30:28,300 --> 02:30:29,180
I have to check that out.

1847
02:30:32,180 --> 02:30:33,860
Hope you got another drive in the bus.

1848
02:30:43,180 --> 02:30:44,720
You normally interact with us.

1849
02:32:18,830 --> 02:32:20,930
We can. How you doing about?

1850
02:32:27,310 --> 02:32:29,730
Did you hear us talk about badly about you?

1851
02:32:29,950 --> 02:32:30,870
We got a seven day.

1852
02:32:31,190 --> 02:32:31,530
That's what we're looking for.

1853
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:34,850
Yeah, it must be coming, going.

1854
02:32:38,610 --> 02:32:42,010
Okay, select board comments. Bob, you can go first since we know you're here.

1855
02:32:52,970 --> 02:33:00,510
I have not, to the board, I did talk to Mr. Brown today and he provided some more information.

1856
02:33:00,830 --> 02:33:06,690
So I told him today I would reach out to a Hubbard and select board and try to set the meeting

1857
02:33:06,690 --> 02:33:15,690
beforehand, but Mr. Brown has asked to come before the select board in executive session

1858
02:33:15,690 --> 02:33:16,930
next month.

1859
02:33:18,890 --> 02:33:25,170
So Bob and I, if the board still, the pleasure is that the town representatives meet

1860
02:33:25,170 --> 02:33:32,430
with the public and select board regarding the transfer station portion of the discussion,

1861
02:33:33,390 --> 02:33:38,510
and then Mr. Brown as the alternate representative to the Rutland County

1862
02:33:38,510 --> 02:33:43,450
Solve Waste District he wants to talk to the board after he did it some research today.

1863
02:33:44,350 --> 02:33:49,590
So the answer to the question to the board is no I did not, but I will.

1864
02:33:50,170 --> 02:33:51,430
I promise I will.

1865
02:34:10,220 --> 02:34:15,320
okay sorry about this I just it's just don't know that book I just didn't

1866
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:18,460
care for you before I left it like that the month must be on the other side

1867
02:34:18,460 --> 02:34:21,720
you care for me that's gone I'm not on the other side

1868
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:27,640
so I'm relying on your name I'd like to total about it's better on the right

1869
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:30,540
purpose than maybe because they want

1870
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:33,840
okay

1871
02:34:35,890 --> 02:34:37,510
I just on the building you're talking

1872
02:34:37,510 --> 02:34:44,530
Well, if I'll be out there for any of these places related to the building and never for now.

1873
02:34:45,530 --> 02:34:46,890
Can you read the book?

1874
02:34:47,370 --> 02:34:48,010
Thank you, Rachel.

1875
02:34:48,530 --> 02:34:49,010
The building.

1876
02:34:49,510 --> 02:34:50,770
You'll be aware of the letter.

1877
02:35:01,450 --> 02:35:01,810
Yep.

1878
02:35:02,370 --> 02:35:03,070
We'll do.

1879
02:35:03,650 --> 02:35:03,830
Yeah.

1880
02:35:04,390 --> 02:35:04,630
Okay.

1881
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:14,180
So, while we're on the subject is the discussion with Mr. Brown going to put the town in the disadvantage

1882
02:35:14,180 --> 02:35:17,380
if we do not do it in the executive session.

1883
02:35:17,860 --> 02:35:19,220
According to what he shared with me today, yes.

1884
02:35:19,220 --> 02:35:23,880
Okay, then I think we'll proceed with this plan to board a degree.

1885
02:35:25,580 --> 02:35:27,260
That's you're all set, Bob?

1886
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:30,600
I don't know if that's any of you.

1887
02:35:30,680 --> 02:35:33,760
Yes, I've got a question for Mike.

1888
02:35:34,740 --> 02:35:39,980
I have all the members of the Select Board, the DRB, the Planning Commission,

1889
02:35:40,880 --> 02:35:47,680
and whatever boards we have taking the ethics and open meeting law courses,

1890
02:35:47,940 --> 02:35:48,860
like they're supposed to.

1891
02:35:48,860 --> 02:35:56,460
No, we're still short, some new members that were on the planning commission, Tom Murphy's

1892
02:35:56,460 --> 02:35:59,520
one of them, so I got, I got to get him,

1893
02:36:01,740 --> 02:36:04,360
Joe Mark took it, I think back when he was already

1894
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:04,620
on there.

1895
02:36:04,820 --> 02:36:09,440
Oh, I'll verify, but there are, no, I don't knit an Agnes, our new wastewater heat took it,

1896
02:36:09,680 --> 02:36:13,700
so it's like we're down to like two z's, three z's, because Bob took it and then he couldn't

1897
02:36:13,700 --> 02:36:14,260
print the certificate.

1898
02:36:16,580 --> 02:36:16,980
Right, Bob?

1899
02:36:20,560 --> 02:36:24,460
You sent me a message, you sent me a message saying you took it, but then you couldn't,

1900
02:36:24,460 --> 02:36:27,660
He asked me if I got the certificate, but I didn't get it.

1901
02:36:28,860 --> 02:36:31,140
So, that sounds like he is going to be taking it all.

1902
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:34,740
Because the same thing happened to Mike Schovener.

1903
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:39,320
He said, I took it, and I put your email address in there to send the certificate to him, and I didn't.

1904
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:40,320
I never got it.

1905
02:36:45,620 --> 02:36:46,640
You want to do the roster murder?

1906
02:36:46,960 --> 02:36:47,660
I'll do the roster murder.

1907
02:36:47,700 --> 02:36:48,080
I'll do the roster.

1908
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:49,720
You want to update the roster, though?

1909
02:36:50,120 --> 02:36:52,680
If you, if you have time, I do.

1910
02:36:54,890 --> 02:36:55,370
All right.

1911
02:36:56,370 --> 02:37:10,370
So, we're six months away from needing a new police chief and that six months will go by pretty quick and thinking that we should start that criteria search at least thinking about it.

1912
02:37:11,410 --> 02:37:15,730
Having that conversation because it's six months will go by pretty quick.

1913
02:37:16,170 --> 02:37:17,210
It was quite quick here, do you think?

1914
02:37:17,830 --> 02:37:23,690
Well, we've been, how many months without the town managers administrative assistant then?

1915
02:37:23,690 --> 02:37:29,970
long enough. And I, I taught to, um, Justin and, uh,

1916
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:41,000
There are people that are interested in that job. Some probably are better than others, I'd say. I mean, not in a negative way, but probably better suited for the job or better skilled.

1917
02:37:41,940 --> 02:37:50,600
So there's interest out there. I don't think we're going to have any problems finding candidates to plot to apply for it. But it does take a while to get through the process.

1918
02:37:51,540 --> 02:37:58,820
If we're going to follow a good process of sending them to the academy and doing the polygraph

1919
02:37:58,820 --> 02:38:02,580
and the oral board, I mean, anything that we're going to follow takes time.

1920
02:38:02,860 --> 02:38:04,820
Do we have a criterion job description?

1921
02:38:05,780 --> 02:38:06,480
An old one.

1922
02:38:06,560 --> 02:38:07,300
It needs to be updated.

1923
02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:10,340
Yeah.

1924
02:38:10,340 --> 02:38:10,680
I understand.

1925
02:38:11,060 --> 02:38:11,980
We need to get started.

1926
02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:17,400
I know Justin approached me in the day about it saying, please don't wait to the last minute

1927
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:17,960
to do this.

1928
02:38:17,960 --> 02:38:24,260
So I said, well, it's just that job description is probably not available online, right?

1929
02:38:24,320 --> 02:38:25,360
I doubt it.

1930
02:38:25,460 --> 02:38:26,760
I can send it to the board members.

1931
02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:29,960
You send it to the board members and we'll start with that.

1932
02:38:30,960 --> 02:38:32,020
That's a good point, Mark.

1933
02:38:32,320 --> 02:38:35,080
It took us several months to hire a police chief last time.

1934
02:38:36,400 --> 02:38:37,600
We don't even have a job description.

1935
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:40,180
It's definitely old.

1936
02:38:40,700 --> 02:38:42,140
And the way the laws have changed it.

1937
02:38:42,800 --> 02:38:45,080
It's probably the one we used 13 years ago.

1938
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:46,660
The last time we hired a police chief.

1939
02:38:46,660 --> 02:38:49,660
Right, Justin might be the person to help us up.

1940
02:38:49,880 --> 02:38:58,740
Yeah, I was just going to say so we have Justin look at it and give us an updated what he believes would be an updated one that puts us where we need to be.

1941
02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:06,500
Yeah, plus I can reach out to there's plenty of them out there on the VLCT classifieds that are new.

1942
02:39:06,500 --> 02:39:16,200
I mean, I can't tell you the job descriptions are new, new advertisements, I'm assuming they got some some better job descriptions so we can we can find something good that good

1943
02:39:16,200 --> 02:39:17,180
sued our needs.

1944
02:39:17,540 --> 02:39:23,560
The last time we were looking for a police chief we had some outstanding candidates and some not so outstanding candidates.

1945
02:39:24,260 --> 02:39:25,240
Usually how happens.

1946
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:27,500
So hopefully we'll get the same, you know.

1947
02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:29,480
Some cops, some robbers.

1948
02:39:30,580 --> 02:39:32,500
I don't think we're any robbers, but there were.

1949
02:39:33,300 --> 02:39:36,500
So, some cops that were cheaply than others.

1950
02:39:39,420 --> 02:39:40,940
We're more qualified to be a cheap.

1951
02:39:41,640 --> 02:39:44,960
The worst thing that we could do is hire a cheap, and then have to send them to a

1952
02:39:44,960 --> 02:39:48,900
boatload of training to get him up to speed on all the things he should be,

1953
02:39:48,900 --> 02:39:50,600
you know, our cheap does now.

1954
02:39:51,540 --> 02:39:52,500
These are death investigators.

1955
02:39:52,900 --> 02:39:55,040
You know what I mean? There's a lot of things out there in that.

1956
02:39:55,380 --> 02:39:55,480
Right.

1957
02:39:55,480 --> 02:39:58,600
Well, there were some things that he had to, some skills he had to acquire

1958
02:39:58,600 --> 02:40:01,660
that nobody knew he needed until, you know,

1959
02:40:01,660 --> 02:40:06,840
But we fortunately chose wisely the last time and we have a pretty robust department

1960
02:40:06,840 --> 02:40:15,150
We do and we want to make sure that we don't upset them around and the structure of that department

1961
02:40:15,790 --> 02:40:18,390
You must've been talking to him because I heard the same pitch

1962
02:40:19,830 --> 02:40:22,390
To the PD. Oh really

1963
02:40:23,770 --> 02:40:29,820
Well, we've got to choose wisely. We know that. Okay. Anything else, Mark?

1964
02:40:31,060 --> 02:40:33,500
No. Thank you for bringing that up, Rob.

1965
02:40:33,740 --> 02:40:36,720
I got nothing. That was a cover tonight. I've got nothing.

1966
02:40:37,680 --> 02:40:44,300
There was something, but I'm not sure if it's open or executive session, but the sidewalks.

1967
02:40:44,440 --> 02:40:44,740
That agreement.

1968
02:40:46,200 --> 02:40:47,160
Oh yeah.

1969
02:40:48,160 --> 02:40:51,200
Talk, I mean, I'll just throw it out there. I don't think it's executive session, I'll think so.

1970
02:40:51,920 --> 02:40:57,800
So the letter with the contractor from the Parsons Hills sidewalk project,

1971
02:40:57,800 --> 02:41:02,580
The agreement came back and there's nothing mentioning fixing the broken panels

1972
02:41:04,420 --> 02:41:07,960
Just the you know thing and mentioned it was the $6,000 for the

1973
02:41:07,960 --> 02:41:09,660
seeding and all that

1974
02:41:09,660 --> 02:41:14,460
There was an executive session so I don't have any notes from it, but I don't know recording

1975
02:41:14,460 --> 02:41:19,320
But I looked back at my the notes. I had for that meeting and I didn't write anything down about the panels

1976
02:41:19,320 --> 02:41:24,000
So when I did send that to the attorney, I didn't include the panels in there

1977
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:27,240
So I can't I can't blame it on that the attorney didn't include it

1978
02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:31,120
It's fact that I'm one of my emails to heard don't have it in there.

1979
02:41:31,960 --> 02:41:38,860
I looked at over a pretty close, there's one panel that has cracks, the one that has a manhole in it.

1980
02:41:39,880 --> 02:41:46,440
And there's two panels on the sidewalk from Castle and Corners West that have manholes

1981
02:41:46,440 --> 02:41:50,280
and they have identical cracks. There's six panels total lab cracks, but they have the man,

1982
02:41:50,280 --> 02:41:55,380
everyone has a manhole, I think, as cracking it. I think six panels in this section

1983
02:41:55,380 --> 02:42:07,260
Western corner? Yeah, between root 30 and uh, uh, to hide. Yeah, I only I went down it just looking for the ones with manholes and they're identical to the one that has a crack

1984
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:09,560
on the east side

1985
02:42:09,560 --> 02:42:15,500
On the section that we're talking about right now. I think every one as a manhole eventually will get cracked. No doubt

1986
02:42:15,880 --> 02:42:18,520
So though are there any other cracks in that

1987
02:42:19,340 --> 02:42:21,700
New section down there from

1988
02:42:21,700 --> 02:42:26,440
person's hill corner just to person health and I'm not that I saw just a one just a one with the

1989
02:42:26,440 --> 02:42:31,440
The manhole covering it. So I guess I got back and forth on it Sunday

1990
02:42:31,440 --> 02:42:41,920
I wrote it on my bicycle twice and I could not see any imperfections other than the one where the manhole is and it is also on an elevation change and

1991
02:42:41,920 --> 02:42:43,860
between those two things like

1992
02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:51,440
I don't care who does it over. I would imagine it's gonna crack again. It's not separated. It's just

1993
02:42:51,700 --> 02:42:56,380
you know what you'd call a hairline frack on either side because you've only got

1994
02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:07,320
10 inches on one side and 12 on the other and the most of the requirements have changed ADA allow so three-quarter of entry 90-degree rise

1995
02:43:08,680 --> 02:43:12,440
Going over like a threshold we're on a handicap ramp

1996
02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:19,740
So I don't imagine a sidewalk criteria is much different maybe I'm completely wet here, but the crack is less

1997
02:43:19,740 --> 02:43:22,800
of a height changed in the manhole cover itself.

1998
02:43:23,080 --> 02:43:25,000
Yeah, well, there were three countries,

1999
02:43:25,420 --> 02:43:26,760
which was, that was reason what to expect

2000
02:43:26,760 --> 02:43:29,800
that you could roll a wheelchair over a three-quarter inch rise.

2001
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:33,740
In my opinion, we should put this behind us.

2002
02:43:33,860 --> 02:43:35,380
Pay the bill. Pay the bill.

2003
02:43:36,760 --> 02:43:38,780
And never hire them again.

2004
02:43:40,340 --> 02:43:42,060
That's just me as not as a board member.

2005
02:43:42,540 --> 02:43:43,040
As a...

2006
02:43:43,040 --> 02:43:43,240
You're just...

2007
02:43:43,240 --> 02:43:45,560
I should go sit over there and say it.

2008
02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:48,440
There's a few people on that list from the last few years.

2009
02:43:49,360 --> 02:43:56,540
Okay, so this is the power of that process and we'll do what we've got to do next time when you put it before us.

2010
02:43:58,950 --> 02:44:00,310
You're correct that.

2011
02:44:02,410 --> 02:44:02,850
I walk.

2012
02:44:02,990 --> 02:44:06,590
What about the great big crack down here is the lead gen.

2013
02:44:07,050 --> 02:44:10,450
That's not just a crack, but bigger and bigger.

2014
02:44:10,730 --> 02:44:15,910
I had to look at that and they believe the engineer believe that that's heavy,

2015
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:20,670
some heavy vehicle drove over that because it actually pushed it down too.

2016
02:44:20,670 --> 02:44:28,730
So it's not, it's not where the driveway, that's what, when they got brought to my attention

2017
02:44:28,730 --> 02:44:33,910
and I went down there and looked, I saw no tire tracks that were going around it so I'm like,

2018
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:39,390
but they believe something heavy was on it because there's nothing else to shatter it to make

2019
02:44:39,390 --> 02:44:44,930
that all break up on the surface. I went down to look at it right after I happened to, and it looked

2020
02:44:44,930 --> 02:44:50,010
like an impact wound to me, you know, if something got dropped on it, I don't, you know,

2021
02:44:50,110 --> 02:44:52,590
but I'm not a start slowing you down or anything, but that's just my point.

2022
02:44:52,590 --> 02:44:55,950
I think it seems you saved fuel truck that drove over it.

2023
02:44:56,050 --> 02:44:59,730
The only thing I saw when I went down the dock, dock, dock, dock.

2024
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:27,360
I went down right after we got the message about it or whatever, as you could see where whoever had moved the lawn had turned on the cycle. Out each time of the zero turn on. That's certainly shouldn't do it. So, if you wouldn't think that that would do it, but that was the only, you could see the tire tracks from the rubber zero turn divers. Well, there was no other marks on the lawn. I mean, if it was having up to break concrete, you would have thought it would have sunk into that dirt and there was grass wasn't folded over.

2025
02:45:31,660 --> 02:45:38,840
I think that we should tear that sidewalk all completely up and put everything back to the way it was before we put the sidewalk in.

2026
02:45:38,880 --> 02:45:40,120
Just in front of Tom Bata.

2027
02:45:40,420 --> 02:45:41,860
I would be fine with that.

2028
02:45:42,020 --> 02:45:43,140
Can we get a grant for that?

2029
02:45:44,760 --> 02:45:46,220
So let's get serious and move on.

2030
02:45:47,800 --> 02:45:50,100
If that gets worse, we'll have to replace it.

2031
02:45:51,780 --> 02:45:52,960
It's cracked and settled.

2032
02:45:53,440 --> 02:45:59,980
That's what they said. I asked Damonette to go down there with Jeff and look at it and that's what he said.

2033
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:01,200
Why did you buy sickle?

2034
02:46:01,440 --> 02:46:02,640
What was the recommendation?

2035
02:46:03,020 --> 02:46:05,460
I do all the time, I never noticed it.

2036
02:46:05,640 --> 02:46:06,900
They said you'll see.

2037
02:46:08,240 --> 02:46:12,960
If you hire someone that knows what they're doing, they can remove that panel without breaking the

2038
02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:14,960
Joining panels and place it.

2039
02:46:15,740 --> 02:46:18,960
But if you get somebody that doesn't know what they're doing, they're going to

2040
02:46:18,960 --> 02:46:23,040
and we're going to crack the other panel of break of corn or something else on it.

2041
02:46:24,140 --> 02:46:26,360
So, if it's settled, so it's got to be fixed.

2042
02:46:26,900 --> 02:46:32,360
When you cut that up, it's going to be pretty obvious if the preparation underneath it is bad.

2043
02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:33,100
Right?

2044
02:46:33,160 --> 02:46:37,020
If there's water underneath it, that's why it broke.

2045
02:46:37,360 --> 02:46:39,900
I mean, we're four years into that one or five years.

2046
02:46:39,900 --> 02:46:42,540
Yeah, that's our, that's our, definitely.

2047
02:46:43,060 --> 02:46:43,860
It's a one year warranty.

2048
02:46:43,940 --> 02:46:45,260
So it's really not that bad.

2049
02:46:45,940 --> 02:46:47,420
It's not that bad.

2050
02:46:47,500 --> 02:46:48,640
It's a funny, funny fastener.

2051
02:46:48,900 --> 02:46:52,380
Is that something our VLCT insurance would cover?

2052
02:46:53,140 --> 02:46:56,640
We have a $1,000 deductible.

2053
02:46:57,940 --> 02:46:59,980
I was going to cost $1,000 to fix.

2054
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:03,440
It is, but I'm not sure if it's worth getting any of that.

2055
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:03,680
I don't know.

2056
02:47:03,880 --> 02:47:05,760
Our insurance claim for that.

2057
02:47:07,140 --> 02:47:10,880
We put $45,000 in the sidewalk budget a year.

2058
02:47:11,520 --> 02:47:13,340
And when all the sidewalks were done, it was like,

2059
02:47:13,340 --> 02:47:18,120
for maintenance and stuff like that, but we've moved on and put more sidewalks on the schedule.

2060
02:47:18,640 --> 02:47:28,500
So that $45,000 is for our match, not for, you have to do something about the amount we put in there.

2061
02:47:29,480 --> 02:47:34,060
Let's take a look at it and we can discuss it at the next meeting if it's something that needs attention or not.

2062
02:47:36,410 --> 02:47:43,030
Well, I know these attention, if you talk to some of the residents, they're like, yeah, it's going to get worse probably before it gets better.

2063
02:47:44,350 --> 02:47:49,390
We can monitor it and it starts shifting and doing something and we can make a decision

2064
02:47:49,390 --> 02:47:50,350
to guess.

2065
02:47:51,660 --> 02:47:55,260
I chose not to pursue the person that did the cell street sidewalk project.

2066
02:47:58,160 --> 02:47:59,120
Why not?

2067
02:48:00,080 --> 02:48:02,180
You are pursuing the engineer, though.

2068
02:48:02,620 --> 02:48:02,720
Yes.

2069
02:48:03,440 --> 02:48:03,540
Good.

2070
02:48:03,740 --> 02:48:05,620
One of them resigned.

2071
02:48:07,890 --> 02:48:08,990
Today was his last day of work.

2072
02:48:10,450 --> 02:48:11,130
I don't know what happened.

2073
02:48:12,610 --> 02:48:14,750
I haven't got the dirty details yet.

2074
02:48:16,480 --> 02:48:19,760
Yeah, you don't have to see that moving in on how it ends

2075
02:48:22,160 --> 02:48:23,560
but there will be back next week

2076
02:48:24,300 --> 02:48:29,440
end of the week or or beginning of next week to do the paving because it hasn't taken any time

2077
02:48:29,440 --> 02:48:31,040
But I've already got three complaints

2078
02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:36,940
Jeff got one I got to on the transition from the

2079
02:48:36,940 --> 02:48:43,060
South Street up over the sidewalk under their driveway because it's a flat surface so it doesn't fall the angle of the driveway

2080
02:48:43,060 --> 02:48:47,040
So now they they have to write up on those humps and they're dragging their cars and stuff and

2081
02:48:47,900 --> 02:48:52,680
So we went down, the highway crew would down, put some dirt on them, to raise them up for

2082
02:48:52,680 --> 02:48:55,440
right now, because they haven't come and paved them, but I think it's going to be coming

2083
02:48:55,440 --> 02:48:55,800
issue.

2084
02:48:57,560 --> 02:49:02,060
And you can't pitch the sidewalk at the same angle as the driveway, because then it's not

2085
02:49:02,060 --> 02:49:02,740
80 a compliant.

2086
02:49:05,220 --> 02:49:10,360
It'd be like 4%, it's only that, they were down there telling me, so the one that, one

2087
02:49:10,360 --> 02:49:12,300
of the house would be looked at, it was 10%.

2088
02:49:13,340 --> 02:49:14,360
I saw that.

2089
02:49:17,150 --> 02:49:18,430
No good deed goes up on this.

2090
02:49:19,010 --> 02:49:22,430
So I'd like to make a motion that we don't pursue any future sidewalks.

2091
02:49:25,180 --> 02:49:25,300
Oh, what?

2092
02:49:27,060 --> 02:49:28,840
It's an ordinance to just walk in the US.

2093
02:49:30,960 --> 02:49:33,580
All right, we're going to move on to action items.

2094
02:49:35,200 --> 02:49:40,680
Rob is going to look at the tree ordinance and review it and be prepared to discuss it

2095
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:41,460
in the next meeting.

2096
02:49:41,960 --> 02:49:49,460
I'm going to follow up with a planning commission on the UDR and be prepared to discuss that at the next meeting.

2097
02:49:49,460 --> 02:49:57,500
We're all going to review the assisted down manager job description and be prepared to approve a final version next meeting.

2098
02:49:58,080 --> 02:50:04,600
Same, and the texts we're all going to review, the text help policy and be prepared to discuss that at the next meeting.

2099
02:50:05,000 --> 02:50:10,480
And I have Mark and I volunteered to look at the broken sidewalk on 4A by the Legion.

2100
02:50:10,480 --> 02:50:16,420
And we want to do that mark? Yep, and we want to look at the police chief job description to them like just

2101
02:50:16,420 --> 02:50:18,880
Or that Mike's gonna send us

2102
02:50:20,900 --> 02:50:23,300
and see what we need to adjust on that

2103
02:50:29,800 --> 02:50:31,360
Really, you pens stopped working

2104
02:50:32,300 --> 02:50:33,120
Well, I just

2105
02:50:34,020 --> 02:50:36,380
Stop, you know, I just better

2106
02:50:36,380 --> 02:50:38,200
That means it's time to go

2107
02:50:39,240 --> 02:50:40,720
Right back on schedule

2108
02:50:42,920 --> 02:50:46,100
It's okay, I'll use the red one. Okay, maybe great. Thank you

2109
02:50:47,840 --> 02:50:48,560
Would you

2110
02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:55,840
Have Megan or somebody do the tax sale policy for me and put it in my box.

2111
02:50:56,340 --> 02:50:56,400
Police.

2112
02:50:56,880 --> 02:51:01,320
So at this point, I'm ready to entertain a motion to go into executive session for

2113
02:51:01,320 --> 02:51:01,840
personnel.

2114
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:08,480
I'm moved to find that premature general public knowledge regarding the personal matter

2115
02:51:08,480 --> 02:51:12,620
and handle put the board at a substantial disadvantage because of the sensitive nature of

2116
02:51:12,620 --> 02:51:13,880
the personal situation.

2117
02:51:14,840 --> 02:51:19,200
I'm moved when I turn to executive session to discuss the personal matter under the provisions

2118
02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:30,420
of title 1vsa313383 with the select board, the town manager and I'm sorry I'm going to

2119
02:51:30,420 --> 02:51:33,120
butcher your name again like I think I did the last time Michael couldn't

2120
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:34,420
No, no.

2121
02:51:34,620 --> 02:51:34,960
No.

2122
02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:37,360
Do I

2123
02:51:39,670 --> 02:51:40,150
have a second?

2124
02:51:41,450 --> 02:51:41,770
Second.

2125
02:51:42,750 --> 02:51:43,250
I love favor.

2126
02:51:43,650 --> 02:51:43,810
Hi.

2127
02:51:44,050 --> 02:51:44,190
Hi.

2128
02:51:44,190 --> 02:51:45,530
I'm an executive secretary.