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And to pursue it to the governor's executive order and the continuing COVID crisis. This is a hybrid meeting. We are meeting here in person. And we are also meeting in on Zoom when the agenda was scheduled.

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When the agenda was posted, it gave instructions how people would join us by Zoom. So if you have joined us by Zoom, welcome. We also have some people here in the city hall.

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All of you may know that there has been an order issued here in Cathedral City that all people inside City Hall shall be wearing a mask, whether vaccinated or not.

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And so we will be wearing a mask during this meeting unless we are actively drinking or eating.

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And so don't be surprised when you see us all mask up. That's what's going on.

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All right. I will officially call this meeting to order.

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and we will start off with the pledge of allegiance. I'll lead the pledge and then I ask you to stand for that and then remain standing for the moment of reflection

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which will be given by Council Member Ross.

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Please, your hand over your heart.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indibisible with liberty and justice for all.

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It's been more than seven months since I joined this illustrious council and I love most every moment.

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But I do, like many of you, have the propensity to put in too much on my plate.

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There are so many worthy projects. It can be overwhelming.

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So today I just wanted to remind you that any task in life is easier if we approach it with that one of a time, one at a time,

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attitude. That doesn't mean we can only deal with one issue in life at a time, but rather

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to keep in mind if you find yourself at any one-time chasing two rabbits, they will certainly

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both get away. None of us are able to do everything all at once. We must elect what is important,

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what is possible, and begin where we are with what we have. And if we begin, and if we

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keep going, the weight, the worry, and what sometimes can be a voluminous feeling will begin

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lift. We can't do everything always but we can always do something now and doing something will

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help lift your spirits and even prepare you for the next project or adventure. Plato said

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the beginning is the most important part and I couldn't agree more. So start something new

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and lift your heart and in doing so perhaps you can lift the heart of others. Thank you.

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And thank you for those inspiring words.

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You're all right. The next item on our agenda is

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All right, the next item on our agenda is agenda finalization.

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Are there any changes to today's agenda by staff?

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I have no changes, Mayor.

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By City Council.

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Seeing none.

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We'll move forward.

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The next item is public comment.

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This is the opportunity for members of the public to comment on any item.

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is not appearing on our regular agenda.

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A reminder that because of restrictions contained in California law, the City Council can't

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discuss or act on any item that's not on the agenda, but might briefly respond to statements

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made or ask a question for clarification.

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You could also request response from staff or that the matter be placed on a future agenda.

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If we feel that it needs to be, public comment will be limited to three minutes.

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If you've joined us by Zoom, this would be the time for you to use the raised hand feature on your device, or dials our nine if you joined us by telephone, if you wish to make comments on the item that's not on the agenda.

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If you've joined us in person and have turned in a speaker card, the clerk will call on you and if at the end you still want to speak and you haven't turned in a speaker card, please raise your hand and indicate.

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So, so we'll go turn it over to the city clerk.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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So we'll start with the participants on Zoom.

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I have Danny Lee, who has raised his hand,

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who would like to speak, and I will allow him to speak right now.

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Welcome, Danny Lee.

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I hope you can hear me.

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I'm not sure.

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We can hear you.

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Oh, good.

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So, good evening, Mr. Mayor.

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I want to talk briefly tonight about household communications with residents and start by saying that we do a general in a great job both the stuff that Chris Poland does for the public and the recording of Council and Commission meetings which is then available to play back at your leisure.

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But I wanted a question or prompt you to think about a policy that the Council has adopted.

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And that is that you will not record the non-mandatory meetings.

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Those are things like at your corner meet the chiefs and any special sessions.

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Now today, for example, I had a meeting so I couldn't attend a lot of the study session.

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I'll watch it tomorrow, because I can do that via video playback.

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But if I go back a few weeks, I wanted to see the interviews for commission members and I couldn't.

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And the reason for that was that it was a special session and you do not recall the special sessions.

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I'm not really able to understand the difference between these different types of meetings.

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I've heard it said that making people who would speak more freely, if they know it's not being recorded,

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but looking around at this meeting and all the economy things that I've ever attended,

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I don't think any of the people speaking would be put off by knowing that the meeting was being recorded.

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I would encourage you to consider changing that policy, recording those meetings, and increasing

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the flow of very good information, which comes out of those meetings to the broader

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community.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you very much.

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I don't see any other hands on Zoom at this time, so we will go to those that have turned

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and request to speak forms in the first speaker I have as Mark Dirkton?

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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My name is Mark Dirkton and I have been a resident at Cathedral City for 20 years.

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I represent the applicant for CUP-19-419 to incorporate an events center at the former

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Burlington Code Factory south of the Amazon warehouse on day palm drive.

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My reason for appearing before you tonight is to recap our experience with the planning

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commission. Our first meeting with the Planning Commission was on May 19, 2021. The staff

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recommended approval for the CUP at this time, but the Planning Commission decided

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to postpone until July 7. At the July 7 meeting, again with staffs recommendation of approval

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for the CUP, the Commission allowed no discussion and postpone the matter until August 4.

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Between May 19th and August 4th, the applicant and the staff had five meetings.

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The staff refused to remove the off-site improvement conditions and the applicant continued

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their rejection of those conditions.

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This impasse prompted the applicant to include a condition of approval list at the fourth meeting

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based on the staff's report.

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The 232 staff conditions, the applicant agreed with 155 of them, disregarding those conditions

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affecting off-site alterations.

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At the August 4 meeting, the project was presented to and discussed by the commissioners

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still with the staff's recommendation of approval for the CUP.

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The attorney advised the commissioners that they could not approve the CUP if the applicant

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did not agree to all of the staff's conditions that were used to consider the conditions presented

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by the applicant. At this point, the commissioners determined that the CUP was no longer

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permissible to the zone. Instead of making a ruling, they decided to adopt the resolution

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of their intent. So we are again postponed now to a fourth meeting without an approval or denial

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result.

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This begs the question, why is the Invent Center considered authorized as long as the applicant

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pays to renovate the city's right away, but if the applicant does not agree to pay

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an Invent Center is no longer viable at this location, nevertheless, despite the outcome

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of the following planning commissioners meeting, this process will appear before you want

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appeal.

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Thank you.

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Next comment.

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The next speaker is Rich Eaton.

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Welcome there, council.

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Thank you for your time.

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I'm here representing the Valt dispensary

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lounge and also the 13 or 14 other dispensaries in the city.

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Not sure what the number is at today as we speak.

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The issue is cannabis tax.

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I could stand up here for 45 minutes and try to school you up on the

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press of tax, the 10% tax that you have levied on, cannabis in the city.

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But I won't.

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What I am going to request is, everyone in the city, every business, every human, every working

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person has gotten help from the government from this pandemic.

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The city itself has received several million dollars.

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Cannabis has received zero.

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While we continue to pay and try to stay open with no tourism, no second homes, no anything.

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Hotels are dead. We're struggling. Yet we have the tax. Yes, it's a pass through, but what

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the tax is doing, it's holding people back from buying legal cannabis. So they're flourishing

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the black market. Because the people that aren't working, the people that can't afford to pay

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tax, don't pay it. They go to the corner and pay it. What I'm proposing is the city

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give retail dispensaries a three month break on the 10% tax. You can supplement that

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with the millions of millions you've got in CARES Act money, supplement it for three

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months and let's look at the numbers. I did it March of 2020. I paid the tax for our customers

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for a full month. I know the data. I know what it did. No one wants to see it. I'm begging you.

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Three months is all I ask. You'll see the numbers if I'm wrong. Let's go back to the 10%

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if I'm right. Let's sit down and come up with a number that works. Thank you. All right. Thank you for your

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That is all the requests to speak forms that I received. Is there anyone in the audience that

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wishes to address the council at this time? All right. I want to go ahead and close public

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comment on items not on the agenda. And move forward on our agenda. Our first item is a

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little unusual, but we do have a council action that we're going to be made, especially

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that has to do with the fire department acquisition of a donated water tender city manager.

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Thank you, Mayor. And I'll try not to say too much so that I don't give the chief's entire

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presentation, but I think this is a great example of two neighboring cities working together

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for the betterment of our respective communities.

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I'll let Chief Muir tell you a little bit about the truck that was donated to the City of

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Cathedral City by Palm Springs and then we have a representative of the Palm Springs

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fire department that is on the Zoom call as well.

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Chief.

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Council. Again, I come before you to request that we accept a donation from

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Palm Springs Fire Department. A back last year, Palm Springs Fire Department ordered a brand new

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water tender. And for those of you that aren't aware of what a water tender is, it's basically

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a very large water truck. And I struggled with how they explained this real well except for

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to put it in real layman's terms, when we have fires out on the freeways, a good example would be a tractor trailer type incident.

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We send our engines out there, and of course there are no hydrants that are located on I can, so we use the water that we carry on our fire apparatus.

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A fire engine carries about 500 gallons of water, and to give you an idea of what a water

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tender can carry, this particular one that they're replacing has a 3,000 gallon capacity.

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That would equate to six round trip drives onto the eye pin with one of our fire engines.

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So it carries a sizable amount of water, and for obvious reasons you can see what the

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benefits will be to us, both on the freeway as well, as well as north of the freeway.

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So when they replace this apparatus this last year, they brought their current water

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tender up for surplus, and at the same time, we caught wind of that and requested our

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purchasing that piece of equipment. The fire chief in return said, we would actually be willing

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to donate it to Cathedral City. With certain terms that, of course, we would make that available

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to them in the future, should they need added water tender service.

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So, with that, if you look up on the screen, you'll see in the slide, it gives some basics.

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So, you can see the picture of the waterpinder. It also has a fire pump on it.

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It's a 1999 international, the chassis, and it was fabricated by Pierce Fire Apparatus,

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which is the exact company that Palm Springs, as well as cathedral cities,

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uses for our fire engines. So it's a very quality piece of equipment. And in fact,

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I believe it has less than 20,000 miles on it. So this will be a piece of equipment that we can

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and I can't be for you guys tonight to request your permission, with us tonight is Deputy Chief

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lawyer from the Palm Springs Fire Department. And if you have any questions, he would be happy.

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I'm sure to speak on Palm Springs behalf.

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All right, thank you very much, Chief. Council, do you have any questions of the Chief or Mr.

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before we take public comment.

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Just one question.

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Are we going to be able to put Palm Springs off

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and put Cathedral City on the side of the truck?

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That will be about the only fiscal impact.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you, Chief.

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Thank you, Councilmember.

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All right.

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We'll go ahead and open this up for public comment.

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We're considering a resolution,

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accepting a 1999 National Water Tender

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the city of Palm Springs Fire Department.

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Is there anyone in the public that wishes to speak in this item either on Zoom?

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If you are on Zoom and you wish to use the raise hand feature or hear on the audience

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if you turn in a speaker card or otherwise signal the clerk.

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Hey, are you seeing no hands raised on Zoom?

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I did not receive any request to speak forms.

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Is there any member of the public that wishes to speak on this item?

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All right, well, we'll return it back to the council for further comments or a vote.

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If anyone wants to make the motion.

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Before you make the motion, I just want to tell fire chief.

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I guess you are fire chief, Louia.

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How very, very grateful we are that you would make such a generous donation to our city.

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And, of course, for life-saving equipment.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. I'm sure from all of us.

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You're very welcome. If I may speak.

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The original, the original.

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When we acquired and purchased, this was funds assisted by the Awakau anti-band of Kuia Indians as well.

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So its original purpose was to protect tribal and city lands.

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So it's definitely an honor for both departments to be able to, you know,

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Thank you for your consideration.

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Thank you.

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That's very interesting.

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Information and I'm sure we'll continue to be used for that.

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But we have to wait for the vote.

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So if Council of you would please go on your screen.

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It's waiting for somebody to make the motion.

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All right.

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We have a motion by Mayor Pertem Gutierrez.

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And the second by Council Member Carnival.

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Please vote.

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Do you need assistance?

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Council Member Ross.

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Well, I'm just a little screen and I keep clicking it.

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But it's just a little hand that's going like that.

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It wants to grab the yes, so the answer is yes, I need help.

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Let me just see if I can.

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But I really explained it to make it sound like it wasn't my fault.

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So, the motion carries all eyes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, the motion carries.

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Chief Loia, thank you very much for this donation.

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We do have the ceremonial resolution that we will be forwarding to you along with our

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and it's always great when partner agencies and partner cities like we are.

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I mean we work together daily so that's nothing new but it's always great when we can have some type of a formal physical manifestation of our partnership.

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and so this is a great one here, one that will continue to benefit both the city of Cathedral City,

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the city of Palm Springs, and the Awakali and the Bandakwia Indians.

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So thank you so much for all your work and bring this forward, and thank you to you for helping

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make this happen.

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All right, if there's nothing further on the side, I'm going to move on to our next item

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on the agenda, which is Council Reports and we'll start if she's ready with Council Member Ross.

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It's ready.

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I'm going to be here.

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I'm not ready.

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Good evening.

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The day after our last meeting, I met with the Cathedral City Chamber Chair Bill Noble

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to discuss the agreement and contract we had made between the city and the Chamber and how

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each of us thought we could use those services to add value to our collaboration into the

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city.

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That afternoon, I met with Manager Press Grove, a public works along with Karen Rylev's

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Grapp Gallery to start to implement ideas for children's programs that we can introduce

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into the city. Many fine ideas came out of it and I'm sure you'll hear more in the coming

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months. As a result of that meeting, I put in about 30 hours of work over the next week,

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fleshing out ideas and proposals to make sure that all of our commissions would have buy in

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an ownership long before anything is presented to Council. I will continue to help in any way

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that is meaningful. At our meeting on the fourth last Wednesday, we fared it out how the mayor

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rotation should and shall be carried out. It was confusing in its current language, but we were

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able to fix it, and to clarify what it is that Council valued as far as fairness, while at

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the same time valuing experience. In the end, it was in unanimous consent in our attorney

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Erickville, we'll be bringing the final language back to Council soon. During the last three

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weeks, I've taken meetings with 12 of our business owners in District 2, just checking in to

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see what it is they need if there was anything that I could help them with, and how they're

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doing this year compared to last letting them know that the city is a true partner in their

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success. As a result, I have some things to work on there too. I've been working on improving

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my social media presence. Anybody who has looked at it knows it needed it. I realize this

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is how many people receive their news about the city. I want to reach as many people as possible

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with updates and information, so it's something that doesn't come naturally to me wish me

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luck. Also, I've started notes from Nancy, which is a blurb of information that I'll provide

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each of my eight gated or at least private areas within the district

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for their monthly newsletters starting in October.

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I'm continuing moving forward on a sweeping program,

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but the next step will be community meetings,

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and I am a bit sheepish with inviting people

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into enclosed areas right now.

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So we will have to wait until our COVID numbers start falling

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again, but my invitations and presentations are ready to go.

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I personally hosted it in a party for 10 vaccinated adults,

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and not adults, both of course, they were adults, neighbors

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at our home. And it was a reminder of how much friends mean to us. Don't lose track of yours.

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And speaking of friends, I will in my comments with a reminder of the upcoming dinner

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with Patsy that will take place next Wednesday night at none other than Tortilla's

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restaurant. This month, the nonprofit support goes to the Cathedral City Senior Center

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Bob and I'll be there and we hope to see you there too. Thank you.

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Thank you so much, councilmember. Next up is councilmember Lam.

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Thank you so much and

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welcome back everybody. I had an opportunity to participate in a field trip and this was

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to Shumway Ranch, which was up high way 74. And as a council member for Kathy to City, I

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represent the Coachella Valley Mountain Conservancy. So there were several of us who wanted

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to know more about that. And so we had this opportunity to visit Shumway and learn that it was

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original homestead, and as taxpayers, we have our vested interest in preserving this property

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and it is purchased by the Mountain Conservancy. We also took a trip to Whitewater Preserve,

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and I want to say how appreciative and honored I am to be part of a community that

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that preserves our the natural wildlife.

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And this is purchased by the wildlife,

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wild landscape and serene conservancy.

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And for those of you that have lives in the desert

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for a long, long time, it used to be the white water

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trout farm that was open to the public.

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It's still open to the public.

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No trout.

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I wanted to certainly shout out to John Carellan

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and public works in engineering.

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And I had commented before that our resident in the cove had talked about this little basketball court that was unloved.

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And he sent public works out to refurbish it and put a new net in and send out a little boy.

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And he can shoot hoops and I really appreciate bringing that to my attention.

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And also I had some people talk about the overwhelming interest in pickleball and what we

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could do in our community to look at some possibilities for pickleball courts, so we're

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going to be pursuing that.

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I want to remind you too that we're part of the nine cities challenge for the blood drive.

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I had an opportunity to participate that, but there are two more dates coming up.

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One is August 25th, which is a Wednesday, and August 26th Thursday, the August 25th

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is at Northgate Church, and the Thursday is at Palm Springs Motors.

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So, if you just sit and get on the ball, we certainly need your participation in this

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because our community needs the blood, needs the help.

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For catheter city elementary school, Jessica Whiteman was our principal, and she has moved to

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on Springs Unified School District District offices

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Director of Elementary Curriculum.

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And the new principal there is Renda Santana.

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I have yet to meet her, but I'm looking forward to it.

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Coronavirus story time has been renamed.

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Good people city story time.

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Made in Rochester, and on that, we'll have an opportunity

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to hear our latest update on the Coronavirus

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and how it's still impacting our community.

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I belong to the Moon Rotary.

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We have since gone back to Zoom meetings for the month of August because of coronavirus

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considerations and vacation time, and I did send my money and already for the evening

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Rotary.

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They're going to have the Mayors Golf Tournament in December.

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So I've been threatening to dust off my golf clubs for a year, so this may be the year.

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I guess I ended up for four, so it should be fun.

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And the Senior Center, Cathedral City Senior Center,

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as Councilwoman Ross talked about they're doing such an amazing job,

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and for those of you that are interested in programs that are available,

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I want to hold this up because this is their newly formatted program schedule,

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and on the very back of it, it has all the Coachella Valley Senior Resource

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available and they're contact telephone numbers and it's an English and Spanish.

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So it's a wonderful resource.

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Don't miss out.

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We have our 40th anniversary celebration of the incorporation of

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Cathedral City and that is going to be that next meeting is

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next Tuesday at 2 o'clock and Councilman Carnival and I participate in that.

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And I do want you to know this great article on was in the paper about

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are cathedral city high school lions.

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They were four and one last year, four victories.

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And we're grateful to have back.

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O. Sh. Wallace and Frankie Valentino.

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They are seniors this year.

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So we're looking, but they had a short and abbreviated year

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because of COVID.

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But hopefully this year, they'll be off and running.

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So thank you so much for listening.

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Thank you so much for your comments.

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Council member Lam.

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Next up is Council member Carnivali.

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Mr. Mayor, I'll be brief.

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The beginning of this month that was pretty light for me.

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Most of my committees are dark and I'll just,

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and I'll be attending a couple by the end of this month,

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the annual committee.

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I'll be chairing that this Thursday,

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and the next week I'll be attending a homeless committee meeting.

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And then tomorrow I will attend,

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I think we very interesting.

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the league is putting on a round table meeting about homeless and funding, which is always a

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big deal, see if we can get some funds on that. I've spoken to a few constituents, a couple

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on the noise still with STVRs, I'm asking to be patient, the system's working, you know, it's

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winding down. And then I've had a couple constituents call that very concerned about the rising

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amount of COVID cases in the city and what we're going to do about it and later on the agenda

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we'll be discussing what the catheter city is doing, what we plan on doing, very important.

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I want to, I spoke with Chief Crum about the funding of the Office of Architecture City

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High School.

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I really appreciate his hard work and commitment to combating that and seeing if we can get

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an officer back on.

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know we've met with the school board, I don't know what happened there but possibly he'll meet

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with soon and we could find out but thank you Chief for speaking up and keeping our high school

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students and staff there safe and appreciate your hard work and that's it Mr. Mayor. Thank you.

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Thank you very much councilmember. Mayor of Rotten Gutier is your turn. Thank you Mr. Mayor.

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Good evening everyone. I hope everyone's staying healthy at home. I recently had a medical checkup

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and in minor pursuits you completed, which I was

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out of commission for a very short time, everything went well,

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and I was given it.

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Clean Bill Health. On Tuesday, I guess, a third, I participated in a panel which interviewed and got to hear from

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the top applicants who applied for the next city, for the net to be the next assistant city manager.

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There was a great pool of candidates, all of them, which will make great city managers.

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assistance to managers.

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We interviewed a total of seven candidates and

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rest assured that the position will be filled by well-qualified individual.

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Now, the following day, along with the colleagues with my colleagues, I also

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participated in these special city council workshop. I made with our city manager

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to go over to NASA gender. I also met with our police chief, Chief Crum, in which we talked

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about many issues, many different issues.

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And the great news is that our city will be a little bit safer

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or crimes will be actually solved,

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will be easier to solve in the new future in certain neighborhoods

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in within our city.

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I also had many interactions with residents via email,

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phone conversations, and the in-person.

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And as usual, I drove on the city only to see

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that I'm looking forward and hiring new

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code enforcement officers in the new future to

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beautify our city.

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As you know, this is a public announcement for

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the residents is getting hot and our AC systems

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are constantly running and our energy prices are going up.

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And I want to make sure that our residents who can take

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advantage of the low income,

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electrical rates can do so.

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is called the California Alternative Read for Energy, or Care Program, in which oil and

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income families can qualify and save up to 30 percent. The other program is if there's three

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or more that live in a residence that can also save up to 30 percent in energy rates. If you're

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interested, call Southern California medicine at 800-798-5723. I also want to express my

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and I gratitude to our police chief ground for a voicing his opinion in regards to the

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Ponspin School District in regards to the school resource officer. This is a silent

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way to actually defund the police. The Boris put in our teachers, students, and the

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community in danger by defunding the police, but removing the school resource officer from

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from our high schools.

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The board is putting politics in front of our children.

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If you are dissatisfied with the decision from the school board,

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the Ponscience University of the School Board, please contact them and let it know.

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I pray that nothing ever happens, but if it does, it will not be the fault of our police

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chief.

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So thank you, Chief, for voting your concerns and data for citizens and our families here.

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And that concludes my board with us.

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Thank you very much, Mayor Pro Tem.

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So as was noted, our last regular meeting was Wednesday, July 28th, so this is our first regular

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meeting in August, but it's not our first meeting, because we did have our special meeting

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on August 4th.

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So hopefully some of you got to join us on Zoom.

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As I mentioned, we discussed the ordinance that dealt with Council of Rotation for the positions

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of Mayor Pro Tem and Mayor, and we'll be seeing something coming forward in the next couple

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meetings to formalize that and for final review and hopeful approval.

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The old ordinance, as has been mentioned, was out of date and needed to be updated.

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We also discussed how to place items on the agenda and agenda management for the council.

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And I think that discussion went well and will bear fruit in the future, as far as making

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sure that the items that need to be taken care of for the city of Cathedral City are

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And so in an orderly way, and that are properly prioritized,

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so we don't let more immediate matters necessarily override

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the hard business that sometimes we have to tend to.

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So along with my colleagues, I also had time.

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Now that we have a little bit of break on some of our side jobs

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to meet with staff and residents, and correspond with them.

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Often on Zoom, I also got some correspondence.

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So I was able to speak to some people about the COVID concerns, which, again, will be dressed later tonight.

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There's also been some activity regarding the parks and questions and information that we were able to share, including some activity going on with our soccer park and also spoke with a representative of the Chamber and others.

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So we're able to make good use of this time.

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So I also, you know, sometimes in all the different forms of government, things happen, and I don't think they're necessarily well thought through.

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And as has been mentioned, we were recently informed at the last moment that the Paul Springs Unified School District had decided to make a change regarding their security and their school resource officer program.

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And change is a good thing, and I think it's widely recognized that how we have used our police in the community, which would include the schools,

449
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:57,400
and what they've, although they have locally always acted admirably, I'm not aware of any issues, but it certainly is something that we welcome the review, and I know our police department does too, but unfortunately,

450
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:05,380
actually an action was taken. I don't think was well thought out, and they were withdrawn from

451
00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:10,720
the schools. The school resource officers were, including the one here in Cathedral City,

452
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:17,920
while the school district studied what to do and making changes. It's also fair to note that

453
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,160
although the school district says that they haven't permanently withdraw them and they put money

454
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,280
in the budget for school resources officers.

455
00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:29,660
I also quietly mentioned that they have only budgeted half

456
00:36:29,660 --> 00:36:31,940
of what they expect it to actually cost.

457
00:36:32,180 --> 00:36:34,120
So I don't know what that means, but I'm sure that'll

458
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,980
be, that'll come out in the negotiations.

459
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,700
But sometimes in government, it's easier, especially

460
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,120
when another government does something like that for us

461
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,300
not say anything.

462
00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:52,100
So I do want to join my colleagues in thanking our police chief

463
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:58,220
for stepping up. I know it's very uncomfortable to do so, but we make a point of being very

464
00:36:58,220 --> 00:37:05,100
transparent in our actions. We feel that our citizens need to know the possible results of

465
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:13,290
actions and so I thank you for taking the courage to step up and let our citizens know

466
00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:20,660
what our school resource officers do here at least in Cathedral City, how well they're trained

467
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,960
the supervision that you give them, and what the consequences will be of them not being in

468
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,940
the schools, even for this interim period of time.

469
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:41,320
So I know that the chief and his department are taking actions to try to make sure even

470
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,660
though he doesn't have an officer in the school that the kids are safe, things continue to

471
00:37:46,660 --> 00:37:54,020
at the schools, that's just the way of life, but I, and I know this is an ongoing story, so

472
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:58,300
I don't want to be labor of the point, but I do want to join my colleagues, and thank you

473
00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:04,880
for taking the courage to not let this pass without letting our local citizens know the results.

474
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,600
So, thank you very much, Chief.

475
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:09,280
All right, and with that, I want to make sure everyone is aware.

476
00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:14,340
We do have another special meeting, and again, thanks Council and staff for agreeing to

477
00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:18,760
be a series of special meetings so that we can cover issues in detail.

478
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:25,260
But our next meeting, a week from today, we will be having a Zoom meeting at 2 p.m.

479
00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:27,620
So please plan to join us.

480
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:33,420
If you're interested, our subject will be billboards, I believe, and a Council goal was to

481
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:38,740
look at our billboards in the city, many of them are on tribal land, but some of them

482
00:38:38,740 --> 00:38:46,500
on private land with the angle of addressing how we may wish to reduce the number of billboards

483
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:51,640
in the city so that's what's on our agenda for next Wednesday at 2 o'clock so please

484
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,620
plan on joining us if you're interested.

485
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,260
All right, if there's nothing further there we'll go ahead and move on with our agenda the next

486
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,680
item on our agenda is the consent agenda item A and B and I will turn it over to the city clerk

487
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,320
in the consent agenda.

488
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,680
We do have just two items on the consent agenda this evening.

489
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,840
Item number four A is to waive for reading of ordinances on agenda.

490
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:23,040
And item number four B is the approval of the July 28, 2021 city council.

491
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,440
A steady session and regular city council minutes.

492
00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:26,790
All right, thank you very much.

493
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,060
Council, do you have any questions or any items that you want to pull before we open it up for public comment?

494
00:39:33,460 --> 00:39:35,560
Seeing none, go ahead and open the public comment.

495
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,660
If you have a comment on an item on the consent agenda,

496
00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:42,200
and you join this by Zoom, please indicate that you wish to speak

497
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,200
by using a raise hand feature, or a dollar and a dollar and a dollar

498
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,160
and if you join this by telephone, or if you're here in the audience,

499
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,060
we hope you have filled out a speaker card, but if you have and you can indicate

500
00:39:50,060 --> 00:39:53,560
Kate by raising hand, the clerk will call on you.

501
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,240
City Clerk.

502
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,840
So at this time, I don't see any hands raised via Zoom.

503
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,460
I did not receive any request to speak forms.

504
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,720
Is there any member of the public that wishes to speak on the consent agenda?

505
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,940
All right, seeing none, we'll go ahead and return it back to the Council for further discussion

506
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:10,600
or a vote or motion.

507
00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:21,150
All right, I have a motion to approve by Council Member Lam a second by Council Member

508
00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:22,890
Connor Novali, please vote.

509
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Are you still having trouble?

510
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,140
This is my new child vote.

511
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:30,780
Okay.

512
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:31,360
Yes.

513
00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:32,980
And your vote is yes.

514
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,280
All right.

515
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,500
So that item approved is approved, five zero, move on with the next item we had no items pulled

516
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,720
of public hearings, so we're into our legislative actions, and our first legislative action

517
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:50,080
is actually going to start off with interviews, and then we will, we will make a possible

518
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,360
appointment, and this is the interview of applicants for the Palm Springs International Airport

519
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,760
Commission.

520
00:40:54,940 --> 00:40:55,780
Mr. City Manager.

521
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:58,780
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

522
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:05,340
When you interviewed for your other boards and commissions back in June, we had no candidates

523
00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:08,540
for the opening on the airport commission at that time.

524
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:15,840
subsequently we now have three and we're very pleased about that and they are here tonight

525
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:22,380
to answer your questions and then this is a agenda is such a way that after the interviews

526
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:23,880
you can make an appointment.

527
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,840
So who's scheduled first, Tracy?

528
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,480
I have Greg Gregorian that's going to go first. So when the council is ready, I'll move them over.

529
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:42,160
The clerk will move the man as you're ready for them and you can go ahead and proceed as you normally do on interviews.

530
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:44,280
All right, I think we are ready.

531
00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:48,320
Seekler, could you go ahead and move Mr. Gregorian in?

532
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:49,540
So we can...

533
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:53,340
So there will be a slight delay because we want to see him up on the screen as opposed to this.

534
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:54,060
Yes.

535
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,980
So Mr. Gregorian and everyone else is going to be interviewed.

536
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,800
Be aware that when the city clerk moves you and there is a short delay.

537
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,580
So don't panic, you should be able to be moved over and then we'll be able to see you.

538
00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:14,100
So he has moved over and I see him, but I do not see his video, so maybe.

539
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:20,120
Alright, welcome Mr. Gregorian. You've been moved and joined in with our meeting if you could please unmute yourself

540
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,320
and turn on your video if you wish.

541
00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:28,330
Mr. Gregorian, are you there?

542
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:36,720
Mr. Gregorian.

543
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:41,400
Please unmute yourself if you're there.

544
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,900
All right, City Clerk. I'm going to guess that maybe he stepped away from his computer.

545
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,320
So I'm going to move him back over just so we...

546
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,080
If you would.

547
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,260
Oh, there he is.

548
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,220
Mr. Gregorian, thank you for joining us. If you'd please unmute.

549
00:43:04,450 --> 00:43:04,790
Oh, well, no.

550
00:43:04,990 --> 00:43:06,810
There you are. All right. Thank you.

551
00:43:06,910 --> 00:43:11,590
And thank you for your interest in the Palm Springs International Air Commission or Airport Commission.

552
00:43:11,590 --> 00:43:15,790
Well, let's start off if you can tell the council a little about yourself while you're

553
00:43:15,790 --> 00:43:20,490
interested in serving and what makes you a good candidate for the Palm Springs International Airport Commission.

554
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,980
Yes, I'm a member of the members of the city council.

555
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:31,680
First of all, my apology because I'm talking from our meeting, so I'm not in U.S.

556
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,120
So there's a pleasant problem with the video or audio, my apology.

557
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:45,120
And then coming to the main question, well, since I was a child, my grandfather was a pilot.

558
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,680
So, my being with the plane and everything, it was, I was in enthusiasm in the airplane.

559
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:59,240
So, for so, and I was a pilot, but coming back to the airport operation,

560
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:05,560
In 2001, I was at the City Commission of Water on Power Institute of Glendale.

561
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:13,240
So I was appointed as the interim commissioner in Burbank airport.

562
00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:21,740
Then I find out that my lobby is there and I get started to get involved in administration

563
00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:32,460
and FAA regulation, and find out that maybe it should be some ways that we can improve the transportation,

564
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:38,640
because F-plane is a major transportation vehicle right now.

565
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:43,320
And of course, we did have this COVID-19 situation, but it's coming back.

566
00:44:44,540 --> 00:44:49,160
And I believe that I would be able to be a two-player over there.

567
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:56,500
of some new idea, and working with the people, and I see explore the new ways of what

568
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:59,980
can we do for our airport, which is serving the whole night.

569
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
And then it's international airport.

570
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:16,500
So why not to join us and serving the community, it's a very important part of my career, right now I'm serving in the public opinion.

571
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:25,200
We deal with it, and then I'm a kind of a commissioner for the finance committees.

572
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,260
We don't have any meetings because so far it's going to be once a year meeting whatever

573
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:38,040
is that, and then being active in our community and my president of our association.

574
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:45,780
But coming back to airport, my background is in MBA, and I have done lots of administrative

575
00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:55,380
and my work, Xavier was in construction which dealing with people talking to people,

576
00:45:56,260 --> 00:46:02,560
negotiating with contractors and being a pilot, I started to talk to so many pilots

577
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:08,960
and knows the rules and regulation of AFA which is very important. In the meantime, by talking

578
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,000
from the lowest person in any, I've not lost

579
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,100
and talked in the past four of those activities,

580
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,760
even a journey vote in a airport, all the way to the top.

581
00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:22,220
There is a sort of try to sell the public.

582
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,600
All right, all right.

583
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,680
So I don't want you to tell your whole story

584
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,680
because I know other council members have other questions,

585
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,620
but I think that you have expressed

586
00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:31,720
while you're interested.

587
00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:33,660
So I'm going to go ahead and turn it over

588
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:35,720
to Mayor Protem Gutierrez for the next question.

589
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,440
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

590
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,820
Good evening, Mr. Greoria.

591
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:42,400
I'll tell us a little bit about your experience in education,

592
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,380
and please highlight anything in your background,

593
00:46:45,860 --> 00:46:47,320
that you feel is directly related

594
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,780
to our possibilities of the airport commission.

595
00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:58,870
Bachelor degree in economy and master degree in political science

596
00:46:58,870 --> 00:47:01,990
and MBA, master of business administration,

597
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:06,610
and then I got a lot of degree from pepper diet,

598
00:47:08,810 --> 00:47:15,030
But, and 30-35 years, working in the private sector and being a commissioner in the city

599
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:21,110
of Glandell and being a immediate support of California, which dealing with the people,

600
00:47:21,370 --> 00:47:27,530
but as for us at direc, working with an airport, I wouldn't say that I did have a position

601
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:33,390
except that few months I was an interim commissioner, 2001 in Burbank airport commission.

602
00:47:35,230 --> 00:47:45,210
generally speaking what I would say that my view is going to be to serve the airport with a

603
00:47:45,210 --> 00:47:50,530
different view and then offer them that what can we do because we don't want to have a

604
00:47:50,530 --> 00:47:52,490
ton of vision and looking in a want the wretched.

605
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:57,330
All right so you're getting on to some of the other questions here so thank you for that

606
00:47:57,330 --> 00:48:02,090
information on your experience and education and I will turn it over to council member Ross

607
00:48:02,090 --> 00:48:03,050
for the next question.

608
00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:05,830
Thank you, Mr. Kriegory, and for your application.

609
00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:10,190
I've had an opportunity to review the minutes from the last several meetings of the air

610
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:14,030
park commission, and I am impressed by the weightiness of the topics.

611
00:48:14,610 --> 00:48:18,130
Are you prepared to do the homework that may be necessary to bring yourself up to speed

612
00:48:18,130 --> 00:48:23,570
on agenda items and, if appointed, could you then clearly represent those ideas to counsel

613
00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:26,670
if there was something specific we wanted clarification on?

614
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:37,340
The answer is yes, definitely, because I am there to serve the city, I am there at the pleasure of

615
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:48,110
the council and my prime is there to build the things which is happening over there and even maybe to get some input from you.

616
00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:54,810
So, we have kind of a liaison officer between the city and the airport over there, and in a meantime,

617
00:48:55,030 --> 00:49:01,670
teamwork is a major element of this operation, because they have six, six, seven,

618
00:49:02,330 --> 00:49:05,690
a commissioner, and a city of catalysis has one.

619
00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:13,490
So, we have to work very hard to bring everybody together and try to see what can we do for the

620
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:18,450
So he's a major factor, but in a meantime, he has the answer.

621
00:49:18,690 --> 00:49:18,970
He's definitely.

622
00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:20,750
Thank you.

623
00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:21,790
Thank you so much.

624
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:22,110
All right.

625
00:49:22,110 --> 00:49:24,710
The next question is coming from Councilmember Carnivali.

626
00:49:25,810 --> 00:49:29,270
Why do you believe the Palm Springs Airport is important to

627
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:30,050
the cathedral city?

628
00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:33,210
Could you hear me all right from Michael?

629
00:49:35,770 --> 00:49:36,210
Yes.

630
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:37,730
I did.

631
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:39,770
The Palm Springs Airport is nothing.

632
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:45,610
And I mean, it's important for every city, it's a major route of transportation.

633
00:49:47,130 --> 00:49:53,810
To check out on cities, it became a very active city among these seven cities from India,

634
00:49:54,470 --> 00:50:00,790
India and Wales and all the way to Palm Springs, and it's a very vibrant city.

635
00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:07,610
I mean, the population is more, it's a place that people would love to come right now.

636
00:50:07,610 --> 00:50:12,330
the price of housing, you see, I mean something happening again, everybody is thinking about

637
00:50:12,330 --> 00:50:21,690
the city, I'm very pleased that I live in the city, I moved over 2014 and city is comparably

638
00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:27,910
say, police department response is very fast and then going back to the effectiveness of the

639
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:34,230
homesping airport, yes, because so many people coming through Moshing Airport and it's very close

640
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:39,850
And the people, the one of the reason, when we were people moved to Catalocisi, I asked them,

641
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:46,170
so what was the reason you choose a Catalocisi is a very close-up airport, which is very important factor.

642
00:50:46,570 --> 00:50:53,830
If somebody driving from India, they have to drive 34 to 30 to 40, 50 minutes, but over here is about 5 to 6, 7 minutes.

643
00:50:54,390 --> 00:51:01,290
So, it's a major route of transportation, major route of communication, and major, so it's very important for us that,

644
00:51:01,290 --> 00:51:07,770
especially for cathedrals city that reach it, the child of transportation, open and we cooperate

645
00:51:07,770 --> 00:51:14,290
with everybody, especially city of Palm Springs, to full-reel our responsibilities and to see

646
00:51:14,290 --> 00:51:15,790
how can we sell our city.

647
00:51:16,210 --> 00:51:16,810
Thank you.

648
00:51:17,050 --> 00:51:17,170
Thank you.

649
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:19,890
Yeah, some excellent points.

650
00:51:20,170 --> 00:51:20,590
Thanks so much.

651
00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:23,110
The next question will come from Council Member Lam.

652
00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:24,310
Thank you.

653
00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:26,410
Thank you for your willingness.

654
00:51:27,290 --> 00:51:31,150
If you are appointed to the Airport Commission, you will be cathedral

655
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:37,110
cities representative do you think cathedral cities interests related to the airport are different

656
00:51:37,110 --> 00:51:40,210
than the other cities interests thank you

657
00:51:42,740 --> 00:51:46,860
well every city has a different view the way that

658
00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:53,460
are operating or looking at their protectivities so that's a position of the commissioner

659
00:51:53,460 --> 00:52:02,560
to come and give you the idea what's going on over there bottom line we are here as a commissioner

660
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:09,920
implement the city council ideology to wish way that we want to implement, because therefore

661
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,680
there are some decisions over there budgetary financially or transportation or something,

662
00:52:17,060 --> 00:52:22,060
so the city council has to know everything what's going on over there. And then therefore

663
00:52:22,060 --> 00:52:26,180
there is no way that any commissioner would meet a make a decision that is going to have

664
00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:30,200
the city of this country, against the city council

665
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:36,750
activities. So yes, it's very important

666
00:52:36,750 --> 00:52:44,770
then although my best to fulfill my responsibilities and to be a proud commissioner and

667
00:52:44,770 --> 00:52:50,710
proud citizen and be very active to implement your policies.

668
00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:58,040
All right, thank you very much. So we reach the end of the formal questions and we've covered

669
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:05,720
a number of things like your interest in your experience, whether you are willing to do the homework,

670
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:13,840
why the airport is important to us, and a little bit about representing Codero City.

671
00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:22,380
Is there anything else that you think we need to know about you and your desire to do this job that would help us with our decision?

672
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:34,420
I believe in that this is our community and every one of us we have to be part of the community and nothing better than we can give back to the community.

673
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:50,220
Because by one of the best things to want to hear, I mean, if every one of us can do a little bit more to hear from, even picking a web garbage from the street and all the way to the top of city is going to be better city to live it.

674
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:55,780
And this is, we have to take care of our cities, and we have to take care of our neighbouring,

675
00:53:55,780 --> 00:54:02,760
whatever facility that we have, whatever transportation is, which is very important.

676
00:54:03,820 --> 00:54:08,900
And then on top of that, it's a major route of a corner, because during the winter time,

677
00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:14,660
normally 4,500 people come from Canada, where other places, which is a vibrant,

678
00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:22,780
for the economic impact to our cities and the city of Chatella City is one of them.

679
00:54:23,340 --> 00:54:29,660
So, yes, one tourism is a major idea that I believe in that.

680
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:36,000
Since whenever I was involved in the city of Glen, I wish I lived for 35 years now, I believe in Chatella City.

681
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,700
I believe in that.

682
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,040
So, I see the difference.

683
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,340
Well, thank you.

684
00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:49,700
so much. You're certainly correct. Our community be so much better if everyone will just continue to act and work in the best interest of our community.

685
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:59,120
So, thank you so much for applying with us. And we will, we do have a couple of other people that we're going to be interviewing and you're welcome to of course stay on and watch that.

686
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:09,160
And you're welcome to stay on and watch the rest of our meeting when we may make an appointment. And but you don't have to. I want to let you know that if you're has something else that you need to do that.

687
00:55:10,420 --> 00:55:15,500
You don't have to stay on in the city clerk, we'll let you know whatever our decision is.

688
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,960
So thank you so much for joining us tonight, and thank you so much for your continued interest

689
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,980
in serving at the city.

690
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,120
Thank you for your part.

691
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:22,680
Thank you.

692
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,460
All right, city clerk, we're ready for the next applicant.

693
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:33,940
The next applicant is going to be Jill Philbrook, and I will move her over right now.

694
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,580
All right, thank you.

695
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,180
I see her over now.

696
00:55:59,180 --> 00:56:00,320
There she is.

697
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:04,700
Good evening.

698
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:05,500
Hi.

699
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:06,560
Dale Philbrook.

700
00:56:08,260 --> 00:56:08,520
Thank you.

701
00:56:08,620 --> 00:56:12,400
Yeah, and thank you so much for your interest in the Palm Springs International Air Commission,

702
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,420
and for representing the City of Cathedral City there.

703
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:17,420
Can you tell the council a little about yourself?

704
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,640
Why you're interested in serving and what makes you a good candidate for this position?

705
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:23,860
I'm sure.

706
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:25,520
Well, you have my name, Jill Philbrook.

707
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,600
I'm a resident of Cathedral City and have been for 12 years.

708
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:36,560
I am currently on the airport commission and am requesting to be re-appointed.

709
00:56:37,460 --> 00:56:44,780
I enjoy my time there and enjoy being part of the discussions around the airport and

710
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:49,420
navigating through these times and then representing the city of Cathedral City on that

711
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:49,860
commission.

712
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,460
Okay, so how long have you served on the airport commission?

713
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,400
Seven months.

714
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,360
All right, so we have this in front of it because I believe there was, there was some turnover.

715
00:57:02,940 --> 00:57:05,700
Did you reach the end of a term or?

716
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:17,180
Yes, I was appointed mid-term and it was a six-month appointment and I'm sitting in the seat in the interim until Council makes a decision for the next term.

717
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:19,960
All right, and have you had the opportunity to meet with the commission?

718
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,380
Yes, I've been on the committee, been at each meeting for the last seven months.

719
00:57:27,780 --> 00:57:29,800
Oh, okay, so did they meet monthly seven times?

720
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,940
It once a month.

721
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,020
Once a month, all right.

722
00:57:33,340 --> 00:57:34,040
All right, thank you.

723
00:57:34,060 --> 00:57:34,860
Thank you so much.

724
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:35,720
I'm just not aware.

725
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,860
Just trying to make sure that we have a clear picture.

726
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,340
The next question is going to come from Mayor for Tim Gutierrez.

727
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,620
Thank you.

728
00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:44,560
Good evening, Mr. Wilberg.

729
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:56,700
Tell us a little bit about your experience and your education and please highlight anything in your background that you feel is directly related to their responsibilities of the airport commission.

730
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:09,060
Sure, I have over two decades of professional experience in the hospitality and tourism industries and that's all been here in the Coachella Valley.

731
00:58:09,060 --> 00:58:25,700
I have spent seven years at the Greater Palm Springs Convention and Visitors Bureau in a variety of roles there, and I currently work for all a colleague and a band of queer Indians for their casino operations as the advertising manager.

732
00:58:26,580 --> 00:58:32,720
So my background is very deep in advertising marketing in hospitality and tourism.

733
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:39,260
I have a degree in marketing and college degree in marketing and the number of certifications

734
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,160
professionally for tourism, including Certified Tourism and Buster and Certified Meeting

735
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:45,780
Planner.

736
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,360
Thank you.

737
00:58:48,580 --> 00:58:48,960
All right.

738
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:49,680
Thank you so much.

739
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,660
Our next question I'll come from Council Member Ross.

740
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,260
And again, thank you for your application and willingness to serve.

741
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:59,980
I had an opportunity to review the minutes from the last several meetings of your commission.

742
00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:02,980
and I am impressed by the weightiness of the topics.

743
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:05,520
Are you prepared to do the homework that it takes

744
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,820
to bring yourself up to speed on those agenda items?

745
00:59:08,380 --> 00:59:10,300
And if your appointment continues,

746
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,380
are you then able to clearly represent those ideas

747
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:15,360
to council if there was something specific

748
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,520
we wanted to clarify occasion on?

749
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,940
Thank you.

750
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:23,640
Yes, I can absolutely do that prior to my appointment

751
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,000
at the end of last calendar year.

752
00:59:26,340 --> 00:59:29,240
I had spent some time reviewing the minutes and agendas

753
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:35,220
of the previous six months meetings. Of course I've attended each month meeting so far and at

754
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:42,720
this point I'm up to speed on the business of the commission and would be able to answer

755
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:49,220
any questions or at least find out information if I didn't know immediately for City Council.

756
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:54,140
Thank you for your answer. All right, thank you councilmember. Our next question will come from

757
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:55,440
Council Member Carnivali.

758
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:56,280
Hello, Jill.

759
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Hello.

760
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,980
Why do you believe the Palm Springs Airport is-

761
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,500
So important to get the digital city.

762
01:00:03,790 --> 01:00:08,510
I think the airport is important to the entire Coachella Valley, of course,

763
01:00:08,690 --> 01:00:15,290
but get the digital city in particular, because we sit right next door quite literally to the airport.

764
01:00:16,350 --> 01:00:28,430
And I think having representation on the commission and for the city to know the ins and outs of what's happening at the airport in terms of any improvements or capital expenditures,

765
01:00:28,430 --> 01:00:36,210
as well as any city issues. For example now, there's a lot of discussion around, of course,

766
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:47,750
homelessness and setting up building for them near the airport. And I think having

767
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:52,650
representation from the digital city to be able to have a saying that because we're

768
01:00:52,650 --> 01:00:53,850
Right next door is very important.

769
01:00:54,670 --> 01:00:55,710
Thank you.

770
01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:55,950
All right.

771
01:00:56,070 --> 01:00:56,970
Thank you so much.

772
01:00:57,290 --> 01:00:59,150
Next question to come from Council Member Lam.

773
01:00:59,650 --> 01:01:00,730
The Highness Delperant.

774
01:01:00,790 --> 01:01:01,650
Thank you so much.

775
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:07,370
If you are appointed to the Airport Commission, you will be cathedral cities representative.

776
01:01:08,030 --> 01:01:13,510
Do you think cathedral cities interests related to the airport are different than other cities interests?

777
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:15,250
Thank you.

778
01:01:15,250 --> 01:01:23,510
I do, for some of the reasons I just mentioned, additionally, as the City of Cathedral City

779
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:29,850
Representative, I also sit on the noise committee, which admittedly, I didn't realize

780
01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:35,250
that one was initially appointed, but that's a concern, I think, for the City of Cathedral

781
01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:39,610
City more so than some of the others, because we sit right under the flight pattern of the

782
01:01:39,610 --> 01:01:47,710
plans, so to be able to have a voice on that committee and to say to help advance the benefits

783
01:01:47,710 --> 01:01:49,830
for our city is very important.

784
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:52,890
That's a great example.

785
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:54,070
Thank you so much.

786
01:01:54,350 --> 01:01:56,110
We've reached the end of our formal questions.

787
01:01:56,450 --> 01:02:01,170
This will be the opportunity for you to give us any information that you think we should

788
01:02:01,170 --> 01:02:06,410
consider as far as whether to re-appoint you or make another appointment.

789
01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:15,650
And I don't know if you've been to share any more of maybe some of the items that you've covered as part of the airport commission.

790
01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:17,350
Sure.

791
01:02:17,550 --> 01:02:24,390
It's been an honor to serve and I thank you for allowing me that opportunity these last few months.

792
01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:29,670
And of course, hope to continue to have the opportunity to serve the city in this capacity.

793
01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:37,770
It's been very interesting to have a seat at the table quite frankly with all the exciting changes with the airport.

794
01:02:38,370 --> 01:02:41,010
There are new flights coming in.

795
01:02:41,410 --> 01:02:47,730
There's announcements coming at the end of this week about some new direct flights into our destination.

796
01:02:49,070 --> 01:02:54,150
And being able to be a part of that is very exciting and fulfilling quite frankly.

797
01:02:54,150 --> 01:03:01,770
and I love cathedral city, and as I said, I live there a very long time, and I enjoy

798
01:03:01,770 --> 01:03:07,970
serving the city and being able to serve in this capacity, which is an extension of my professional

799
01:03:07,970 --> 01:03:13,510
experience, is really a thrill and a joy and an honor, and I thank you for considering me for the

800
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:21,810
position. Oh, thank you so much, and I know that the continued expansion of flights in and out of

801
01:03:21,810 --> 01:03:27,710
the local airport is certainly important both for residents and for our businesses, so thank you for

802
01:03:27,710 --> 01:03:32,470
bringing that up. All right, well, we've reached the end, and as I shared before,

803
01:03:33,570 --> 01:03:39,030
you're welcome to stay on and watch the remainder of our meeting. We will have on our agenda

804
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:44,410
immediately following the next application or our applicant interview, whether we want to make an

805
01:03:44,410 --> 01:03:49,090
appointment tonight, so we may do that. So you're welcome to stay with us, but you don't have to,

806
01:03:49,090 --> 01:03:52,470
If you are busy and you need to do something else, we understand that.

807
01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:56,950
You don't have to down the meeting to be able to be appointed the city clerk will let you know

808
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:57,410
either way.

809
01:03:57,870 --> 01:03:58,750
So thank you so much.

810
01:03:58,910 --> 01:04:03,350
And thank you for your service and your continued interest in the betterment of cathedral

811
01:04:03,350 --> 01:04:03,790
city.

812
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:05,110
Thank you.

813
01:04:08,570 --> 01:04:11,770
All right, city clerk, we're ready for our last interview.

814
01:04:14,210 --> 01:04:19,650
Okay, the last applicant is Christian, some, some last guy.

815
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:23,610
I'm not sure if I've loved that, but we'll find out.

816
01:04:23,610 --> 01:04:25,070
I'm going to move him over right now.

817
01:04:42,650 --> 01:04:43,770
Looks like he's over.

818
01:04:43,850 --> 01:04:45,650
I'm not quite sure if the transition.

819
01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:46,950
All right, Mr. Samlaska.

820
01:04:47,090 --> 01:04:48,710
We can see that you've been moved over.

821
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:50,930
But we don't have any video.

822
01:04:51,410 --> 01:04:52,050
So that's up to you.

823
01:04:52,090 --> 01:04:54,770
It looks like your audio is turned on.

824
01:04:54,790 --> 01:04:56,070
Can you hear me?

825
01:04:56,370 --> 01:04:56,990
I can hear you.

826
01:04:56,990 --> 01:04:58,070
I think the video should come on now.

827
01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:58,870
There you are.

828
01:04:59,050 --> 01:04:59,170
Yeah.

829
01:04:59,170 --> 01:04:59,890
And now we have video.

830
01:05:00,050 --> 01:05:00,250
Welcome.

831
01:05:00,770 --> 01:05:02,630
Very happy to have you here at our meeting.

832
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:06,270
And thank you for your interest in the Palm Springs International Airport Commission.

833
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:09,230
Could you start off by telling the Council a little about yourself?

834
01:05:09,230 --> 01:05:13,650
while you're interested in serving and what makes you a good candidate for the Palm Springs Airport Commission.

835
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:20,430
Absolutely, Mayor Gregory and Council. Thank you so much for this opportunity.

836
01:05:21,610 --> 01:05:27,650
I have spent the better part of the last four decades working in aviation in one form or another

837
01:05:27,650 --> 01:05:34,210
either in the airline industry or serving in several different capacities in airports,

838
01:05:34,210 --> 01:05:42,550
various airports. And I think that because of my background and my education, that's been

839
01:05:42,550 --> 01:05:49,790
focused for that nearly four decades, specifically on aviation, I can lend a different

840
01:05:49,790 --> 01:05:55,510
perspective to some of the work that gets done and most importantly I want to serve the

841
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:57,090
community that I live in right now.

842
01:05:58,430 --> 01:06:02,290
All right, thank you very much. Your next question will come from Mayor Protem Gutierrez.

843
01:06:02,290 --> 01:06:03,530
Good evening.

844
01:06:04,270 --> 01:06:08,350
Please tell us a little bit about your experience and education in place on the other

845
01:06:08,530 --> 01:06:12,630
You're thinking you're background that you feel is directly related to the responsibilities

846
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:14,330
of the European Commission.

847
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:16,580
I'm sorry.

848
01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:19,020
I had the first part of that kind of, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't.

849
01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:22,240
Tell us a little bit about your experience and education.

850
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:32,300
So I have a degree that is focused on aviation, my degrees in intelligence studies with

851
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:35,580
and the emphasis on counterterrorism in adhesion.

852
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,220
And further my education through various beam-up classes

853
01:06:41,220 --> 01:06:43,520
on nationalist incident management,

854
01:06:43,820 --> 01:06:45,500
so I'm certified in those courses.

855
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:52,000
And again, specifically for my work that I've done

856
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,520
in aviation prior to the current role that I'm serving,

857
01:06:57,460 --> 01:06:59,460
deploying some systems at LEX Airport,

858
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:06,340
I served as the Senior Manager for Aviation Security at CTAC Airport for over a decade.

859
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:15,820
And in that role, lots of educational opportunities and growth that help position you for this role,

860
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,600
I believe.

861
01:07:18,140 --> 01:07:19,260
Thank you.

862
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:19,840
All right.

863
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:21,040
Thank you very much.

864
01:07:21,220 --> 01:07:23,080
The next question will come from Council Member Ross.

865
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,960
That it be me and welcome Mr. Simlaska.

866
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,900
How are you this evening?

867
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:29,040
I'm well, thank you very much.

868
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,720
I have had an opportunity to review the minutes from the last several meetings of the

869
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,980
airport commission and I am impressed as to the weightiness of the topics.

870
01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:41,440
Are you prepared to do the homework that may be necessary to bring yourself up the speed

871
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:47,280
on items and if appointed could you then clearly represent those ideas to the council if

872
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,400
and when there was something specific we wanted clarification on.

873
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,060
Thank you.

874
01:07:53,060 --> 01:08:05,820
Thank you for the question. I'll tell you that I have done a little digging already. I am also impressed by the agenda items and the items that come up for discussion with the Commission.

875
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:16,720
I think that as an integral part of the community, the variety of topics that come up and the importance, especially around the airport.

876
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,860
are critical to the success of the airport and to the safety and security of the airport.

877
01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:25,720
And so my answer is yes absolutely.

878
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,900
I think that it's vital that you understand all aspects of how an airport operates.

879
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,020
And that you take all that into consideration, including the community's concerns around

880
01:08:36,020 --> 01:08:36,780
the airport,

881
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:40,960
when different issues come up.

882
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,160
And to convey that back to the council, it's very important.

883
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,160
Thank you.

884
01:08:47,900 --> 01:08:48,180
All right.

885
01:08:48,300 --> 01:08:48,940
Thank you very much.

886
01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:51,920
The next question will come from Councilmember Carnivali.

887
01:08:52,060 --> 01:08:52,560
Hello, Christian.

888
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,260
Can you tell me why you believe the Palm Springs Airport is important to Cathedral City?

889
01:09:01,850 --> 01:09:09,610
So, so I think that Palm Springs Airport is very important as an economic engine for the entire area.

890
01:09:10,250 --> 01:09:13,970
You know, it drives business in so many different ways.

891
01:09:13,970 --> 01:09:21,010
And I think that this area is extremely lucky to have an airport like Palm Springs International.

892
01:09:22,350 --> 01:09:25,850
I do think that there is obviously room for growth.

893
01:09:26,670 --> 01:09:38,110
And I think that we experience that, especially in the summertime when traffic, when the, when the opportunities to travel out of the out of the valley,

894
01:09:38,110 --> 01:09:44,350
kind of diminish a bit, and I think that looking at how those services could be

895
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:49,830
crowning a bit more and supported a bit more would be an important thing.

896
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:59,090
I think that in order to maintain the vitality of this area, you know, bringing people

897
01:09:59,090 --> 01:10:03,710
in and getting people out to do the work they need to do in a more efficient and effective

898
01:10:03,710 --> 01:10:07,330
way, we depend on the airport for that.

899
01:10:07,330 --> 01:10:08,610
Thank you, sir.

900
01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:09,750
All right.

901
01:10:09,890 --> 01:10:10,450
Thank you very much.

902
01:10:10,490 --> 01:10:12,330
The next question will come from Councilmember Lam.

903
01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:14,890
Good evening, Mr. Samlaska.

904
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:18,690
And thank you again for your willingness to serve on this community.

905
01:10:19,290 --> 01:10:24,070
If you want to point into the airport commission, you will be Cathedral City's representative.

906
01:10:24,670 --> 01:10:30,370
Do you think Cathedral City's interests related to the airport are different than the other city's interests?

907
01:10:30,710 --> 01:10:31,450
Thank you.

908
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:36,440
Thank you for the question.

909
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:40,600
And I think that fundamentally, they're the same.

910
01:10:40,980 --> 01:10:49,860
When you look at the economic engine that this critical infrastructure provides, it is fundamentally

911
01:10:49,860 --> 01:10:50,460
the same.

912
01:10:50,520 --> 01:11:01,320
I think that the proximity and the airport to Cathedral City and the, I guess, the community

913
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,740
impacts could potentially be greater our greater and I think that that needs to be considered.

914
01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:13,440
So in that respect, it is different and I think it's critical that the community has an

915
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:21,420
ear has a seat at the table to discuss concerns and that they're actually debated when necessary.

916
01:11:21,780 --> 01:11:26,980
When we discuss things like noise issues and environmental impacts, I think that that's critical.

917
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:34,400
I can tell you from my experience that when a community doesn't want things to happen that are involved in airport,

918
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:42,060
and I think back at one airport that I worked at, that was adding a very controversial runway,

919
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:53,140
it took several years for that to get approval and really a lot of education and discussions with the community.

920
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:56,420
And again, it's a vital piece of that.

921
01:11:56,420 --> 01:11:59,460
Of that airport currently, and it was a good thing that happened.

922
01:11:59,780 --> 01:12:04,400
But I think that, you know, understanding those things, especially as they impact

923
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:09,000
the community as close as Cathedral City is, to the airport, is makes a difference.

924
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:09,880
Great.

925
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:10,480
Thanks so much.

926
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,160
All right.

927
01:12:16,220 --> 01:12:17,280
Thank you very much.

928
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:23,820
So, that's the last of the formal questions, but I do have a question of looking through

929
01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:26,240
your application, and I know it hasn't really been covered.

930
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,680
but it appears you're working out of Los Angeles.

931
01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:33,440
And when we look you up, we see Seattle mentioned

932
01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:35,380
as a residence and Beverly Hills.

933
01:12:36,420 --> 01:12:37,420
So, and I see on the application,

934
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,200
I said, you've been lived in Cathedral City six months.

935
01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:45,160
So kind of begs the question, if you don't mind covering it,

936
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,020
how much involvement do you have in Cathedral City at this point?

937
01:12:50,180 --> 01:12:52,900
So I am a full-time resident of Cathedral City.

938
01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:59,040
I, you know, not much good came out of COVID, but I did have an opportunity to move from Los Angeles.

939
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,740
The work I do is remote work.

940
01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:08,220
I visit Los Angeles once every week or every other week at L.A.X.

941
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:09,560
for the work that I need to do.

942
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,240
It will continue that way.

943
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:16,900
I feel very lucky to have become a permanent resident

944
01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:18,800
about a home in Capito City.

945
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:26,920
So, I've been a gastric individual city in the, in Palm Springs many times, but it's something

946
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:27,740
that I've always wanted.

947
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,440
So, this opportunity, that was one good thing in this opportunity.

948
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:32,420
All right.

949
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,600
Well, we certainly welcome you and always love it when you have a new residence, when you

950
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,340
become participants, but I think it's, I think it's fair to ask when you're representing

951
01:13:41,340 --> 01:13:44,000
the city, how much involvement you have.

952
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:50,060
So there's anything else that you'd like to add that would help us make our decision and the

953
01:13:50,060 --> 01:13:50,480
disappointment.

954
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,960
I'd just like to say thank you again and this opportunity, you know, to serve the community

955
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:06,200
and really use my experience and knowledge to help support the community in the airport is something that

956
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,900
I would look forward to doing and value greatly.

957
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:17,960
Well, thank you so much for joining us tonight and for being very frank about the answer to your questions and sharing with us.

958
01:14:18,020 --> 01:14:28,200
It's very nice meeting you and very much to appreciate your answers in this position and in helping make cathedral city or keeping it a great place to live.

959
01:14:28,980 --> 01:14:36,700
We will be having a discussion following the close of this interview and we may be making an appointment.

960
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:42,080
So you're certainly welcome to stay on as a as a attendee, but you don't have to. If you need to go somewhere

961
01:14:42,660 --> 01:14:45,340
The city clerk will be notifying you of the result

962
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:47,300
Thank you very much

963
01:14:47,300 --> 01:14:54,080
We appreciate it. All right city clerk that is the end of our applicants. Is that correct?

964
01:14:56,820 --> 01:14:59,960
That is correct mayor. All right, unless you

965
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:27,820
There's any direct questions in the city manager right now. I'd like to go ahead and open it up for public comment. The public has also heard the interviews. And if you're a member of the public and you've joined us either by Zoom or in person and would like to make comment if you're on Zoom, if you would indicate so by using the raise hand feature. If you have joined us in person, hopefully you've turned in a speaker card, but if not, if you please single to the clerk, she'll call on you.

966
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:29,060
City Clerk.

967
01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:32,460
There are no requests to speak via Zoom.

968
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,100
I see no hands raised at this time.

969
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,520
I did not receive any requests to speak forms.

970
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,900
Is there any member of the public who wishes to speak on this item?

971
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:42,220
All right.

972
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,380
Seeing them, we'll return it back to Council for discussion.

973
01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:47,260
Recommendation.

974
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:49,680
I do see we have someone who is indicated.

975
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:51,300
They wish to speak.

976
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,220
And that is.

977
01:15:56,660 --> 01:16:00,460
I just wanted to get the ground rules here.

978
01:16:00,540 --> 01:16:05,820
Now in our comments, we two out of the gate choose who are going to

979
01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:06,760
our choices.

980
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,480
Or do we want to discuss anything or just jump right into?

981
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,800
Well, I'm certainly open if somebody wants to discuss or if somebody wants

982
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,720
to make a recommendation and just flat out make it or make it.

983
01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:21,320
Just make my choice if that's appropriate.

984
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:50,440
Okay, doing this several years I got to honestly say this is going to be one of the toughest decisions that I'm going to have to make all three of these applicants are just fabulous, you know, Greg is, you know, he's been in front of us before he's very knowledgeable and his, and it's patient to serve, you know, and his commitment to serve is in his knowledge is this impeccable and Christian Samlaska.

985
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:58,420
You know, where have you been? I mean, you're very well qualified and you would be excellent in this position.

986
01:17:00,380 --> 01:17:03,440
You're looking at, I love to answer an economic engine.

987
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,000
You know, all your points on all your answers were spot on.

988
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,080
So I got to give both of them kudos.

989
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,480
Jim Philbrook, you know, she's been with us seven months.

990
01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:18,360
She was appointed in there and she's been doing an excellent job.

991
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:25,880
been a resident of Cathedral City for 12 years, which holds a lot of weight for me.

992
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:36,200
And I think her being on the seven-month committee already, I think she's earned her efforts

993
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,360
to move forward.

994
01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:40,840
So my number one pick would be for Jill Fulberg.

995
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:41,740
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

996
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,260
All right.

997
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:44,920
Anyone else?

998
01:17:50,710 --> 01:17:59,190
So, I will say that I'm not that experienced with the commission, but I do believe, while

999
01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:06,470
they cover a variety of topics, a lot of them are focused on the utility of the airport,

1000
01:18:07,330 --> 01:18:11,530
the tourism, the marketing, those types of things.

1001
01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:13,590
I mean, I know you've looked at the agenda.

1002
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:22,950
So lately it's been largely homeless and vagrancy and security and economic development.

1003
01:18:23,170 --> 01:18:30,530
So it sounds like there is a variety, but I do tend to agree with the council member that, well,

1004
01:18:30,710 --> 01:18:36,910
first agree that this is a lot easier when you have one or two people that probably aren't ready to serve,

1005
01:18:36,910 --> 01:18:42,010
but in many ways, everyone would do a good job

1006
01:18:42,010 --> 01:18:44,870
that we interviewed, so it is very difficult to distinguish.

1007
01:18:45,770 --> 01:18:47,750
But I do tend to lean towards our incumbent,

1008
01:18:48,610 --> 01:18:50,170
who has not been on the job that long,

1009
01:18:50,270 --> 01:18:53,090
but has certainly stepped up and encouraged

1010
01:18:53,090 --> 01:18:56,490
that she was able to jump right in and get involved

1011
01:18:57,130 --> 01:18:58,130
and be attending.

1012
01:18:58,370 --> 01:19:02,230
I also feel that marketing and tourism experience

1013
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:05,710
is very helpful, although it doesn't mean

1014
01:19:05,710 --> 01:19:10,010
the others wouldn't do a good job, and they all, you know, if they're involved in aviation

1015
01:19:10,010 --> 01:19:20,710
have some of that experience in business, but I would tend to lean, especially due to her

1016
01:19:20,710 --> 01:19:27,150
time and involvement here in the valley, also with a variety of valley endeavors, I would

1017
01:19:27,150 --> 01:19:33,310
tend to lean towards her too. So that's my comments. Do we have other comments?

1018
01:19:34,810 --> 01:19:36,670
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1019
01:19:37,410 --> 01:19:42,410
Well, first of all, I thank all three applicants for their willingness to serve our city.

1020
01:19:43,670 --> 01:19:47,130
I have to echo with both of my colleagues here.

1021
01:19:47,490 --> 01:19:50,050
They have expressed it extremely well.

1022
01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:58,550
All three candidates are so well qualified that it makes it a very incredibly different

1023
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:59,490
difficult decision.

1024
01:19:59,490 --> 01:20:09,470
And I do, we'll like to give Phil Jill Fullbrook the opportunity to continue with what she's doing.

1025
01:20:09,670 --> 01:20:14,130
She's been working really hard at it, and it seems like she's attended every single meeting.

1026
01:20:14,590 --> 01:20:17,250
And I like to give her the opportunity to continue to do so.

1027
01:20:17,530 --> 01:20:26,890
It's a very hard decision, but I hope we can now utilize Mr. Somlaska and Mr. Gregorian and some other commissions they are well qualified.

1028
01:20:26,890 --> 01:20:33,070
and they're willing to serve our cities so please don't give up and stay in contact and hopefully

1029
01:20:33,070 --> 01:20:38,630
you can help our city move forward by volunteering in other commissions. Thank you.

1030
01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:42,230
Thank you very much. Councilmember Lam. I just wanted to weigh in and say I agree with all

1031
01:20:42,230 --> 01:20:51,780
that's been said. Thank you. All right. Anything else? So I'm hearing there seems to be a consensus,

1032
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:57,140
at least amongst those who have spoken to continue. Jill of Phil Brook and have her serve in a

1033
01:20:57,140 --> 01:21:03,280
term what somebody like to make that as a motion. I do see a motion, so I'm assuming that's what that is,

1034
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:09,140
Council Member Carnivali. Council Member Carnivali has moved to appoint Jill Philbrook,

1035
01:21:10,340 --> 01:21:13,980
second by Council Member Lam. Please vote.

1036
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,200
I'm just black screen now tracing.

1037
01:21:19,340 --> 01:21:25,380
I'm sorry, so Council Member Ross is a yes, so the motion carries all eyes.

1038
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,800
The motion carries and Jill Fieldbrook is re-appointed to the position, and I want to echo

1039
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,360
what the mayor protests that I know the whole council feels that way.

1040
01:21:33,860 --> 01:21:38,700
We are always so grateful when people want to serve on commissions and the others were

1041
01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:43,820
certainly qualified, so I know this may be their primary interest, but we haven't given

1042
01:21:43,820 --> 01:21:46,580
up on you to be able to serve the cities that don't give up on us.

1043
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,800
We do have other commissions, and sometimes things happen, and even these types of seats come

1044
01:21:51,800 --> 01:22:03,540
So if you are interested in any of our other commissions as they come open, please apply and of course keep an eye out if this one should become open.

1045
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,960
Mr. City manager, what open seats do we have right now that are waiting for applicants?

1046
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:23,680
We have one opening on the Architecture Review Committee. That is one that needs to be a license landscape architect or have some background in the field of landscape architecture.

1047
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:31,940
We have an opening that we will be interviewing for at the next meeting for the Historic Preservation Commission.

1048
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,900
And I think that is it at this point.

1049
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,360
We have one spot on the Mobile Home Fair Practice Commission.

1050
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,100
Mobile Home Fair Practice is commissioned.

1051
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,520
It meets on an as needed basis.

1052
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,080
So, you know, in the last couple of years we've had a couple of hearings before them.

1053
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,940
Before that there was three or four years where there weren't any.

1054
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:55,340
All right, thank you so much for updating.

1055
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,720
All right, thank you, Council, go ahead and move on.

1056
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:01,300
Or do you need to take a break?

1057
01:23:01,460 --> 01:23:03,040
No, I just have a black screen.

1058
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,820
All right, let's take a very short break.

1059
01:23:05,060 --> 01:23:05,820
We can stretch.

1060
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,000
And we can see if we can get our Council Member's screen repaired.

1061
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,380
So let's try to keep it to about five minutes in the back at seven o'clock.

1062
01:23:33,530 --> 01:23:38,790
This time it wasn't the undisciplined council that we were all here and ready to go.

1063
01:23:39,290 --> 01:23:46,050
But in fact we're still putting up a little bit of technical difficulty with council member Ross's station.

1064
01:23:46,350 --> 01:23:50,070
So if you can't see here, I believe you can still hear when she speaks.

1065
01:23:50,070 --> 01:24:02,070
So, all right, we'll go ahead and move on to our next item, which is a special use permit for the Hall of Flowers trade show planned for December 2021, Mr. City Manager.

1066
01:24:03,650 --> 01:24:17,250
Thank you, Mayor. Members of the Council. This will look familiar to you. This was approved by Council for April of 2020, and you know what happened in the end of March in 2020, and so everything at that time period was cancelled.

1067
01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:34,030
It is essentially the same proposal as before with a different date and only a couple of minor modifications, so stonejames are economic development director will give you an overview of the special use permit request.

1068
01:24:34,970 --> 01:24:41,630
The applicant, Danny, Diamondstein is also here, so if there's any questions for him, so stone, go ahead please.

1069
01:24:42,330 --> 01:24:47,330
Thank you, Charlie, for the great overview, and I believe Miss Harkin is going to bring up the PowerPoint presentation.

1070
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:53,850
We can see it.

1071
01:24:54,650 --> 01:25:01,090
Oh, you can. Okay. I cannot. So, I wonder if there's a way that I can see that, too.

1072
01:25:04,450 --> 01:25:05,230
There it is.

1073
01:25:05,690 --> 01:25:10,090
Okay, great. So, what this is, Charlie did, and Charlie, make it for that introduction.

1074
01:25:10,750 --> 01:25:15,530
So, this is a business to business trade show that is focused on the cannabis industry.

1075
01:25:15,530 --> 01:25:21,070
And just like Charlie said, unfortunately, COVID-19 caused forced cancellation by the

1076
01:25:21,070 --> 01:25:22,230
we were going to have that.

1077
01:25:22,970 --> 01:25:28,350
This is this hall of flowers event is going on its fourth year up in San Rosa, California.

1078
01:25:28,730 --> 01:25:31,550
In fact, next month, this is going to be their fourth show.

1079
01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:38,870
And up in San Rosa, that serves all of the Southern California market, and Daddy Domonstin, it

1080
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:45,090
would like to serve the Southern California market in the United States and so like Charlie

1081
01:25:45,090 --> 01:25:52,970
said December 8th and 9th are the two days that Mr. Demonstain has requested. Next slide please.

1082
01:25:55,830 --> 01:26:01,210
The event, like it was proposed the first time when Council approved in December 2019, would

1083
01:26:01,210 --> 01:26:06,330
be held at the former Burlington Co-Factor Building. That's an 84,000 square foot building.

1084
01:26:06,330 --> 01:26:11,170
That's located up on Dave Palm and Gerald Ford. Next slide please.

1085
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,200
So with that 84,000 square feet, we're looking at a maximum occupancy.

1086
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,660
both indoor and outdoor of about 3,500 people.

1087
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,320
That is the ceiling that Danny has agreed to, not exceed.

1088
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,980
He believes that it will not go there.

1089
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,700
There will not be that many people.

1090
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,720
And there'll be really combination of both inside and outside.

1091
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,400
Within that 3,500 maximum, within that 3,500 ceiling,

1092
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,800
there'll be 12 to 1,400 vendors.

1093
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,100
And really the intent of this event, this trade show,

1094
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:55,840
going to be completely self-contained, so that, of course, they've got all the bathrooms.

1095
01:26:56,220 --> 01:26:57,320
They have the food trucks.

1096
01:26:57,860 --> 01:27:00,520
They have everything that they'd need to be completely self-sufficient.

1097
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:06,980
And in fact, there was coming up to in the weeks before this, there was some discussion about

1098
01:27:06,980 --> 01:27:12,040
the location of the right-shear pickup and drop-off, and in the conversations I had with

1099
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:17,460
Danny most recently as yesterday, we have resolved that issue, and so the right-shear pickup

1100
01:27:17,460 --> 01:27:24,160
drop off to occur either in one of or in both locations. One location would be right next to the building,

1101
01:27:24,420 --> 01:27:28,880
just like it was approved back in December 2019, just between Jill Ford and the building,

1102
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:35,500
see on your screen. And then the other location would actually be on the 13.5 acres. That is where

1103
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:41,200
that offsite parking is. And so the right share would come drop off the people or pick them up.

1104
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:43,960
And then the shuttle would take them to the event.

1105
01:27:46,130 --> 01:27:48,470
Danny has worked with the our police department

1106
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:49,590
in our fire department.

1107
01:27:50,970 --> 01:27:55,550
He has agreed to hire six computer city police officers in one sergeant,

1108
01:27:55,850 --> 01:27:58,750
or a total of seven for both of those days.

1109
01:27:59,330 --> 01:28:03,490
And also, he has agreed to having two paramedics in an ambulance rig

1110
01:28:03,490 --> 01:28:07,570
on-site, even though typically they have not experienced problems in the past,

1111
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:09,390
just had an abundance of caution.

1112
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:13,930
He's agreed to have their services there just on this inaugural event,

1113
01:28:14,010 --> 01:28:16,650
just to make sure everything goes well in everyone's days safe.

1114
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:18,870
Next slide please.

1115
01:28:21,850 --> 01:28:24,510
So here is an overview of the program.

1116
01:28:25,010 --> 01:28:27,330
There's a lot going on, so I'll walk you through it.

1117
01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:32,790
So if you see up in the top right hand corner and the green, the red letters, RS, that's the right share.

1118
01:28:33,790 --> 01:28:36,090
So that's where the right share is contemplated.

1119
01:28:38,050 --> 01:28:43,770
The folks would enter through the right share, and that's where kind of the entrance would be by the G1, G2.

1120
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:47,470
Those circles with the blue, G1 through G6.

1121
01:28:48,450 --> 01:28:53,650
And so, you've got the indoor exit hall, and then you've also got the outdoor area.

1122
01:28:54,770 --> 01:29:00,570
And then, if you see, over where it says the green with the red letter F, that's the food court.

1123
01:29:02,010 --> 01:29:04,810
And so, really, that's where all of the activity will take place.

1124
01:29:05,730 --> 01:29:12,730
If you take a look on the self, on the bottom part of your screen, by date on, with the green box and the red letter S,

1125
01:29:12,730 --> 01:29:19,270
That's where the shuttles would enter, and they would be forced to make that right-turn and follow those of arrows like this been illustrated.

1126
01:29:20,290 --> 01:29:24,530
And then they would unload at the G6 at the E4 E5 area.

1127
01:29:25,570 --> 01:29:30,470
And then they've got to coordinate with people who will safely walk outside of traffic into the event.

1128
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:40,010
One of the things that's been important back in 2019 and still, of course, important is that they respect the operations of the U.S. Bank.

1129
01:29:40,010 --> 01:29:51,490
And they have made provisions to make sure that all of the employees of U.S. Bank and all of the customers of U.S. Bank are all of the access U.S. Bank for both days that they're offering.

1130
01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:53,970
And that there's no limitations there.

1131
01:29:55,450 --> 01:29:59,530
There's also going to be one of the things that has been unique about this event.

1132
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:13,580
This concept of the outdoor cannabis consumption. And one of the things that was a priority for the council, then is a priority to council now, is to make sure that there is no transient smell from outdoor consumption.

1133
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:24,040
And so what the applicant has implemented, or would implement, is an outdoor, odor control monitoring system.

1134
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,640
Tracy, if you go to the next slide please,

1135
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,800
so here is an overview of that system.

1136
01:30:32,540 --> 01:30:38,900
This sizable machine is actually used in a number of industries with typically some very

1137
01:30:38,900 --> 01:30:43,700
challenging odors, whether that's wastewater treatment plants or different types of steel

1138
01:30:43,700 --> 01:30:50,760
meals or paper meals, smelting plants or foundries, where they've got an issue with odor.

1139
01:30:51,420 --> 01:30:54,280
They've used the successfully used the system.

1140
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:59,920
Thankfully, this is a non-poxic and biodegradable solution that is piped around that outdoor

1141
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:04,760
area to really capture it, anything that is going on within that area.

1142
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,220
And it actually neutralizes it.

1143
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,660
So I thought really kind of what this, if you were to think about this, just think of

1144
01:31:12,660 --> 01:31:15,140
as an industrial strength for breeze machine.

1145
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:17,380
Next slide, please.

1146
01:31:17,380 --> 01:31:18,180
So

1147
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:28,820
in terms of off-site parking, since they have the outdoor programming, they're not going to be able to have their attendees parking front of the building.

1148
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:36,860
So they've had to secure and they have secured the ability to use 13.5 acres that is located south of the casino.

1149
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:45,260
There's going to be some things that they're going to need to do. They've worked with the engineering department to make sure that there's no issues with the future of dust.

1150
01:31:45,260 --> 01:31:53,260
And that's going to include gravel along some of the key transportation areas, also a water truck,

1151
01:31:53,340 --> 01:31:55,440
just to make sure that there's no dust issue.

1152
01:31:56,540 --> 01:32:01,220
And so this site map shows you where they were going to have the different security guards,

1153
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:06,760
where they're going to have a shuttle stop, where the right share would drop off and pick up,

1154
01:32:06,980 --> 01:32:10,340
and really how that whole parking would be situated.

1155
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,760
As you saw in the staff report,

1156
01:32:14,780 --> 01:32:21,160
This parking, this $13.5 acres is so large you can get to look at the $1700 cars if

1157
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:26,360
we're fully parked to the max, but if you took a look at our code and you took a look

1158
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:32,640
at these types of assembly events, the city believes typically you have five people per car,

1159
01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:33,420
a 10.

1160
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,440
So that means we would need a maximum of 700 cars.

1161
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:42,180
Now that's assuming that no one took a right share directly to the infant from their hotel

1162
01:32:42,180 --> 01:32:43,860
or walk from their hotel.

1163
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,000
We've got no hotel right across the street.

1164
01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:49,880
So there is a wide margin of air in the parking,

1165
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,960
if for some reason, more people drive.

1166
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:54,840
Next slide, please.

1167
01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:00,820
So as with really any special use permit,

1168
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:02,580
there are a number of conditions.

1169
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,100
So we have identified within our conditions of approval.

1170
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,860
And really we incorporate it in.

1171
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,840
Their traffic management plan,

1172
01:33:11,940 --> 01:33:13,200
their emergency response plan,

1173
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:19,140
traffic control plan, which are a lot of signs on the roads and homes to really help direct people

1174
01:33:19,140 --> 01:33:27,160
on where to go. Danny has gone to great lengths to hire professional organizations to help them come up with

1175
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:32,860
these emergency response plans and traffic plans. And he's actually passed these plans by our

1176
01:33:32,860 --> 01:33:38,580
Department, our Police Department, our engineering. And so with that, next slide, please.

1177
01:33:40,750 --> 01:33:41,830
If there's any questions, I'd

1178
01:33:41,830 --> 01:33:47,670
to entertain them, and it's not, and staff would request lead, respect, counsel, approve the

1179
01:33:47,670 --> 01:33:51,310
Hall of Flowers, 241, special use from it.

1180
01:33:53,870 --> 01:33:54,230
All right.

1181
01:33:54,910 --> 01:33:55,930
Thank you very much.

1182
01:34:00,450 --> 01:34:04,550
So I do see we have a speaker that you have a question before we get public comment.

1183
01:34:05,330 --> 01:34:06,010
Public comment?

1184
01:34:07,150 --> 01:34:07,630
Okay.

1185
01:34:08,230 --> 01:34:08,470
All right.

1186
01:34:08,630 --> 01:34:12,790
If there's no questions before public comment, then we'd like to go ahead and give you the

1187
01:34:12,790 --> 01:34:19,950
public and opportunity to chime in on this if you've joined us on our Zoom meeting and you

1188
01:34:19,950 --> 01:34:23,810
wish to make public comment on this item. If you would please use the raised hand feature,

1189
01:34:24,770 --> 01:34:28,730
or if you've joined us by telephone dial star 9, the city clerk will see you and recognize you.

1190
01:34:28,750 --> 01:34:34,650
If you've joined us here in person, hopefully you've filled out a speaker card, but if you haven't,

1191
01:34:34,850 --> 01:34:39,590
then if you'd please signal by raising your hand or waving at the clerk, then she will call on you.

1192
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:43,770
So I'll turn over the city clerk to direct public comment.

1193
01:34:44,810 --> 01:34:46,590
I see no hands raised on Zoom.

1194
01:34:47,050 --> 01:34:49,710
Mayor, and I did not receive any request to speak forms.

1195
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:52,510
Is there any member of the public that wishes to speak on this item?

1196
01:34:55,340 --> 01:34:55,500
All right.

1197
01:34:55,620 --> 01:34:56,840
Then we're turn it back to the council.

1198
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,700
Council member Carnivali.

1199
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:04,330
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

1200
01:35:05,290 --> 01:35:07,090
A couple of questions.

1201
01:35:08,030 --> 01:35:09,730
Is there anybody alive music there?

1202
01:35:10,670 --> 01:35:11,470
Any vans?

1203
01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:12,470
No sir.

1204
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:20,070
There would be music, there would be music played at a low level that would be in performance

1205
01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:26,610
with our noise ordinance and the music would be in speakers that would be relocated within

1206
01:35:26,610 --> 01:35:30,850
that out for area and all of those speakers would be pointed into the out for area.

1207
01:35:31,690 --> 01:35:35,830
Okay, and then as far as the neighbors right behind them, I know they're pretty close

1208
01:35:35,830 --> 01:35:39,590
up there so they won't be disturbed during the day or later in the evening.

1209
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:45,410
It was sort of a thing that was important for the applicant appreciated that.

1210
01:35:45,450 --> 01:35:49,490
Thankfully, I think we have a couple of things going for us, one, the applicant has been very

1211
01:35:49,490 --> 01:35:53,230
reasonable in the application, but then we try to think around those corners about keeping

1212
01:35:53,230 --> 01:35:54,250
the volume low.

1213
01:35:54,510 --> 01:35:59,970
And so the fact that there's a really almost a three-story building, certainly two-story building,

1214
01:36:00,510 --> 01:36:04,790
that is locking that out the word area from that residential area.

1215
01:36:05,050 --> 01:36:06,110
And how late does this go?

1216
01:36:06,990 --> 01:36:12,310
are the event ends at 7 p.m., 7 p.m. Okay, that's not too late in the evening because

1217
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:21,290
where the the right share is that could get noisy later in the evening. The ground there is that rock or is it

1218
01:36:22,710 --> 01:36:28,110
gravel dirt? Well, Council, thank you for that question and that was

1219
01:36:30,610 --> 01:36:35,270
Hence the reason why there have been two locations that have been contemplated.

1220
01:36:35,870 --> 01:36:39,810
So previously there was a hard service there that was removed by the owner.

1221
01:36:40,890 --> 01:36:44,350
And so as a result of the removal, it's just dirt.

1222
01:36:45,210 --> 01:36:48,990
So in order for the applicant to be able to use it, he has got to drop gravel.

1223
01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:51,710
And there's some issues with that.

1224
01:36:51,730 --> 01:36:55,990
So he's come up with a solution to not drop gravel and use mats.

1225
01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:59,950
If that doesn't work, then he can use five papers.

1226
01:37:02,270 --> 01:37:04,630
This would be a question for the Chief of Police.

1227
01:37:05,730 --> 01:37:07,030
Or maybe even used to.

1228
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:10,390
You know, they're going to employ seven local police officers.

1229
01:37:10,710 --> 01:37:11,830
Is that all at one time?

1230
01:37:12,010 --> 01:37:14,850
Or is that two during the day to at night?

1231
01:37:14,930 --> 01:37:15,970
How's that work out?

1232
01:37:16,450 --> 01:37:18,170
Yeah, that would be during the operating hours.

1233
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:21,350
Seven officers during operating hours?

1234
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:22,070
Yes, sir.

1235
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:26,210
Then chief, do you have that extra flexibility of

1236
01:37:28,610 --> 01:37:29,010
service?

1237
01:37:29,450 --> 01:37:32,150
Are you sure that you're able to have that amount of service

1238
01:37:32,150 --> 01:37:33,230
for them on that date?

1239
01:37:39,070 --> 01:37:39,450
All right.

1240
01:37:40,250 --> 01:37:42,730
And Stone, this is going to probably be the last question.

1241
01:37:42,730 --> 01:37:45,890
I'm going to ask it's most important in my book.

1242
01:37:46,110 --> 01:37:48,510
I've never seen an order mitigation

1243
01:37:48,510 --> 01:37:50,270
or whatever that's called outside.

1244
01:37:51,670 --> 01:37:52,850
It says it's finstoff.

1245
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:54,250
It's not tinned it off.

1246
01:37:55,210 --> 01:37:56,650
It's, yeah, it's finstoff.

1247
01:37:57,030 --> 01:37:58,150
It's just finstoff.

1248
01:37:58,150 --> 01:38:07,850
And you're telling me that this machine here will stop odor of the marijuana from leaving that thin stop area.

1249
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:14,030
Yes, because it's not just the machine, and I appreciate this question.

1250
01:38:14,490 --> 01:38:21,270
Tracy, would you be able to pull up that presentation and go back a few slides to that floor plan,

1251
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:23,590
in doing out the programming?

1252
01:38:27,230 --> 01:38:34,190
Because as you remember, I wasn't really big on our cannabis lounges, and now if I go ahead

1253
01:38:34,190 --> 01:38:39,270
and vote yes on this, I'm kind of going against what I did with the dispensaries and

1254
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:39,950
not do our lounges.

1255
01:38:40,110 --> 01:38:52,210
So my concern is maybe we can do it one time, but I got to be concerned and I got to be

1256
01:38:52,210 --> 01:38:55,410
businesses, so that's my concern at this point.

1257
01:38:56,370 --> 01:39:00,290
So, Council Member Cardabelle, I appreciate those concerns and I appreciate your desire

1258
01:39:00,290 --> 01:39:03,410
to be congruent with your previous, you know, previous positions.

1259
01:39:04,010 --> 01:39:06,870
I think that there's two material facts in our favor with this.

1260
01:39:07,110 --> 01:39:12,690
The first one is that the smells that we have a city of struggle with,

1261
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:16,090
especially on one press road, have come from the growth facilities,

1262
01:39:16,430 --> 01:39:20,410
where there's a massive amount of concentrated cannabis.

1263
01:39:20,410 --> 01:39:27,230
And even though I'm not a cannabis user, I've talked to people that are cannabis operators.

1264
01:39:27,890 --> 01:39:36,610
And they said that there's a massive difference, significant difference between the smell generated, the volume and the intensity, the smell generated from the growth facility.

1265
01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:44,410
First is the smell generated from an individual or a couple of individuals to swimming cannabis.

1266
01:39:44,410 --> 01:39:51,310
Yeah, that consumption may not necessarily be smoking consumption. It could be through an inhaler or it could be through edibles or

1267
01:39:52,090 --> 01:39:57,690
Maybe even food. I don't know, but it's not just smoking of it

1268
01:39:57,690 --> 01:40:00,370
And so I think that's the big one and then the second one is

1269
01:40:01,050 --> 01:40:03,990
Maybe what I can do here is I can put up on my screen

1270
01:40:04,830 --> 01:40:06,290
And that is is that floor

1271
01:40:06,290 --> 01:40:13,250
Let up and then I can share the screen hopefully counts. You guys here. Oh, you do. Oh, okay, really

1272
01:40:14,430 --> 01:40:25,590
Oh, great. Thank you, Tracy. So if you take a look at the purple line, so it's a dash line that goes around the outdoor area, that's marked in main box to the red letter down.

1273
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:31,830
So what that is is, I want to say that's a six to eight inch wide height.

1274
01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:38,110
That's going to have multiple perforations along the entire side of the pipe and it's going to run.

1275
01:40:38,670 --> 01:40:43,170
That along the fence of that that purple dash.

1276
01:40:43,670 --> 01:40:49,270
And so it's going to be putting out this, essentially, industrial, non-poxic version of

1277
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:52,510
factories all along that area.

1278
01:40:54,190 --> 01:40:59,350
And this OMI, this cannibalish, apparently what it does is the same thing with the way it

1279
01:40:59,350 --> 01:41:05,630
works with, you know, putting down asphalt, which is horribly smelly, or, you know, wastewater

1280
01:41:05,630 --> 01:41:09,370
treatment plants, where it's all outdoors, and you've got this massive smell, apparently

1281
01:41:09,370 --> 01:41:11,370
it binds with it and neutralizes it.

1282
01:41:11,730 --> 01:41:13,750
It doesn't mask it, it doesn't over-commit,

1283
01:41:13,970 --> 01:41:15,710
but somehow it neutralizes it.

1284
01:41:16,370 --> 01:41:17,690
And so that's why the applicants,

1285
01:41:18,190 --> 01:41:20,150
based on their work with OMI,

1286
01:41:20,530 --> 01:41:24,630
which is their industry, is eliminating odors

1287
01:41:24,630 --> 01:41:26,130
and really bad odors.

1288
01:41:27,090 --> 01:41:30,290
That's why staff is comfortable at the fact

1289
01:41:31,790 --> 01:41:35,010
that this is the bucket of beer problem for neighbors.

1290
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,020
Okay, very interesting, so I can say, thank you, Stone, Mr. Mayor, it's all I have.

1291
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,680
All right, thank you, Council Member, Council Member Ross, your next.

1292
01:41:56,210 --> 01:42:03,050
Mr. Mayor, it's possible to have Council Member Ross, maybe use Council Member Lam's microphone,

1293
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:05,710
because I can't hear her at all.

1294
01:42:06,830 --> 01:42:08,670
Is it worth working now?

1295
01:42:08,830 --> 01:42:09,910
It is worth working now.

1296
01:42:09,910 --> 01:42:13,730
Yeah, the computer genie throughout to get me tonight.

1297
01:42:15,150 --> 01:42:21,010
So I have put some thought into this too and sort of bouncing off of what Council Member

1298
01:42:21,010 --> 01:42:25,990
Carnivala said, because this outdoor area, according to the map, is 56,000 square feet.

1299
01:42:26,090 --> 01:42:32,810
I mean, that's a, that's a huge outdoor area, but it is true from my experience and I guess

1300
01:42:32,810 --> 01:42:36,750
I'm going to talk about tobacco, I suppose it's a third of marijuana, is I hate the

1301
01:42:37,290 --> 01:42:40,830
But if I were half a block away, I'm not going to smell it.

1302
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:45,090
It doesn't, it's not pervasive, like growing is.

1303
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:47,550
I am concerned about two things.

1304
01:42:48,810 --> 01:42:51,590
One is, one's just more kind of a curious, I guess.

1305
01:42:52,670 --> 01:42:57,130
You are expecting 3,500 people and having 1,300 booths.

1306
01:42:57,710 --> 01:43:01,190
I don't see how anybody can stay in business with 2.75 customers.

1307
01:43:04,380 --> 01:43:04,420
Stone?

1308
01:43:05,180 --> 01:43:05,380
Yes.

1309
01:43:05,380 --> 01:43:12,540
So, so those are estimates provided by Danny and if Danny would like to discuss some more of the specifics

1310
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,560
He is certainly welcome to do so, but it's

1311
01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:19,460
Why since I can't see him?

1312
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,460
I don't know if he's gonna get up and talk about this. He's up now

1313
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:29,280
Yeah, would you please approach and use the microphone here? Does that seem on to cancel those numbers?

1314
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:36,440
So no, 3,500, not necessarily, but it's a 3500 people in total over two days.

1315
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:36,840
Yes.

1316
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:41,400
The first day, it's similar to the event we have next month.

1317
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,740
It's a speaking of the microphone.

1318
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:51,320
We have about exhibitors around between 1300 to 1500 visitors.

1319
01:43:52,220 --> 01:43:56,460
They won visitors, but as the retail buyers, it's about 1000.

1320
01:43:56,460 --> 01:44:01,480
and then another 1,000 that have tickets only for the second day.

1321
01:44:01,940 --> 01:44:11,380
Out of the original 2,500, it's easily additional maybe 500 to 750 are not going to attend the second day.

1322
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:19,380
So the second day at the peak will have about 2,500 to 2,750 people.

1323
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,880
Exhibitors if you were asking, there are about 250 exhibitors in total.

1324
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,780
I'm sorry, some more than 300, 1300 exhibitors, that was...

1325
01:44:28,780 --> 01:44:31,240
That's individuals.

1326
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,620
That's everybody who's at one level.

1327
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:36,940
You know that makes me feel so much better for you.

1328
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,660
You know we're concerned when people come to our city.

1329
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:39,840
We want them to be successful.

1330
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:44,220
And then the last question I would have would be regarding handicapped parking.

1331
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:50,800
So if you're going to be moving over into a facility that has 1700 that can hold 1700 cars,

1332
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:57,760
You're going to need 22 handicapped spaces and five van spaces. Are you going to be providing those as well?

1333
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,340
We will find if not there, we'll find a parking problem, we can do that next to the venue, actually.

1334
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:12,880
Okay, but if there's any of that quantity to offset the parking there, if you're having that, any, if there is. So 22 and 5.

1335
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:18,980
Yeah, 22. 22 had to have spots in five van spots for that, many people.

1336
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,520
You can look at the laws on that. Look up the laws on that. Okay. Thank you, that's all.

1337
01:45:25,480 --> 01:45:35,840
All right, thank you, and while you're up, let me just, so when you have an exhibitor and then you have attendees, they don't just go, they hopefully the attendees go to each of the booths as accurate.

1338
01:45:36,540 --> 01:45:40,640
So each exhibitor would hopefully have hundreds of people that would visit there.

1339
01:45:40,900 --> 01:45:41,380
Hopefully they're moved.

1340
01:45:43,460 --> 01:45:50,080
And there is some, there was some talk about samples sold for $2 as that's the plan.

1341
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:54,880
And so I assume what type of quantity, I mean, I suppose it matters.

1342
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,620
I would kind of product they have, but are we talking about very small?

1343
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:05,040
We, yeah, we're taking from the brands are allowed to give us two skews, 200 items each

1344
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:06,420
that's 200 in total.

1345
01:46:07,300 --> 01:46:12,360
In the last event, we had the 22,000 item exchange in Hens.

1346
01:46:12,780 --> 01:46:16,380
Right, but they're a smaller, are they some of them larger than others?

1347
01:46:16,380 --> 01:46:19,600
It's like retail items, it can be small, it can be larger,

1348
01:46:20,340 --> 01:46:26,220
and it's normally all fit in a shopping bag, and by low,

1349
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:30,180
we need to have a retail partner, and it's local retail partners,

1350
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,260
obviously sitting here, it's a Spencer,

1351
01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:34,180
which is across the street, the wallet.

1352
01:46:34,820 --> 01:46:35,640
All right.

1353
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,600
All right, thank you very much.

1354
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:41,100
So while you're up here, I know that we spoke about the parking.

1355
01:46:41,300 --> 01:46:44,200
It seems like are the right share drop-off.

1356
01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:49,520
So, of course, there was some concern, not that we want to select the business as an

1357
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:55,700
emission plaza, but this is our first event, and we don't necessarily want to create

1358
01:46:55,700 --> 01:47:01,560
a situation where we have a lot of pedestrian traffic, we understand there will be some,

1359
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:06,260
but a lot of pedestrian traffic across state palm to the point where it becomes annoying to

1360
01:47:06,260 --> 01:47:12,780
people that use state palm during the time between 11 and 7 or before.

1361
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:18,200
We'll say an hour before and half an hour after, also, you know, if people come and go.

1362
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:25,960
But so the actual, and this may be a more of a question for Stone, the actual conditions

1363
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:29,840
of approval, though, do you talk about the use of mission plaza parking lot?

1364
01:47:29,980 --> 01:47:33,540
Well, those are those going to be amended out, especially at the end of the year.

1365
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:34,840
Yes, sir.

1366
01:47:34,940 --> 01:47:39,700
That will be struck, and that was something that I had gotten agreement from Danny, that

1367
01:47:39,700 --> 01:47:43,240
there would not be any right-share allowed within the mission

1368
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,480
plaza. It would only be either or, maybe,

1369
01:47:46,820 --> 01:47:51,060
bulls, but either on the 13.5 acres or on the actual site.

1370
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:53,840
But being his grade, not to have mission plaza at all.

1371
01:47:53,900 --> 01:47:56,420
So I just need to strike that from the conditions of approval.

1372
01:47:56,980 --> 01:47:59,440
Okay, and as far as the parking at mission plaza,

1373
01:47:59,860 --> 01:48:02,540
it is public parking, is there going to be some type of signage,

1374
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,220
or something to discourage?

1375
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,580
Rogue attendees from parking themselves across the street and then walking across.

1376
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:12,440
Yeah, definitely.

1377
01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:14,680
I believe that it's already one of the conditions.

1378
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:15,620
Okay.

1379
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:17,640
All right.

1380
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:19,120
Thank you very much.

1381
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:24,600
And of course, as previously discussed, the events started as 11 o'clock.

1382
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,940
We hope that it's after the morning rush hours.

1383
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:32,600
Normally we finish the events at 6 o'clock in this time we'll do that in 7 o'clock again

1384
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,540
to help with the traffic as well.

1385
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,000
Yes, well, we certainly wanted to go smoothly, so.

1386
01:48:39,260 --> 01:48:39,720
All right.

1387
01:48:40,740 --> 01:48:42,660
Count, are Mayor Patel Gutierrez.

1388
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:44,060
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1389
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,540
Well, once again, thank you for coming back and actually

1390
01:48:47,540 --> 01:48:50,280
having encouraged to have the events in our city.

1391
01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:54,060
And I'm impressed with my number one concern

1392
01:48:54,060 --> 01:48:56,120
first of all is order mitigation.

1393
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:01,160
And it seems like you have still addressed that issue very well.

1394
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,520
And I think you will succeed on that.

1395
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,880
If I may add one thing just to increase the confidence,

1396
01:49:08,620 --> 01:49:12,000
the company that we appointed, the big industrial company,

1397
01:49:12,500 --> 01:49:16,380
the meaning, the being in the automation business before cannabis,

1398
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:24,080
and they have, it's the company that made the first lounge, consumption lounge in West Hollywood,

1399
01:49:24,820 --> 01:49:28,840
with residential, I mean, next door, and they have done it successfully,

1400
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:35,480
And that's why we reached them and the rest was history, basically, got them to agree to do this event.

1401
01:49:35,900 --> 01:49:39,280
So, they already have proven truck record. That's the bottom line.

1402
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:44,320
Well, we're open to succeed, because as has been discussed in other meetings,

1403
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:49,980
this is kind of an experiment for us as the weather we allow expansion in other outdoor consumption.

1404
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,960
So, we'll see.

1405
01:49:51,960 --> 01:50:01,700
Yeah, so this will be like a pilot program for us to see if we, in the future, will visit other businesses to have

1406
01:50:01,700 --> 01:50:08,840
a lounge, a door lounge. Now, the visitors must be licensed cannabis

1407
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:15,840
individuals correct. Sorry, the visitors to the event will be licensed

1408
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:17,760
individuals correct?

1409
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:18,860
The exhibitors.

1410
01:50:19,180 --> 01:50:19,980
Yeah, exhibitors.

1411
01:50:20,940 --> 01:50:23,080
The exhibitors need to be 21 and up.

1412
01:50:23,300 --> 01:50:23,960
Oh, okay.

1413
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,920
But they don't have to be licensed.

1414
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:27,820
I mean, some of them are.

1415
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:32,280
They want to invite them on the retail buyers, which we pre-screened them.

1416
01:50:32,820 --> 01:50:35,440
And they do there's some other people in the industry.

1417
01:50:36,220 --> 01:50:39,240
But it's all 21 and up and it's all professionals.

1418
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:40,880
Okay, great.

1419
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:45,260
And where you have the events in the past,

1420
01:50:45,420 --> 01:50:48,320
you've had this event somewhere else in the past, right?

1421
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,880
Have you had any issues with odor or any other issues

1422
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:53,900
that you can tell us about?

1423
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,120
No, we had it's our fourth event in September.

1424
01:50:57,620 --> 01:51:00,360
You'll welcome in Santa Rosa, Northern California.

1425
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,000
And no, the other events in the beginning hours,

1426
01:51:05,660 --> 01:51:09,140
the Emerald High Times, which are the consumer events

1427
01:51:09,140 --> 01:51:11,400
or the four or five times the size.

1428
01:51:12,020 --> 01:51:13,920
I'm not aware of an issue that they had.

1429
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,480
And parking is actually also across the street.

1430
01:51:18,340 --> 01:51:23,740
So there is kind of a use of a crosswalk,

1431
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,440
also, I'm not aware of an issue.

1432
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:28,800
And normally, honestly, the professional people

1433
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,480
in kind of is a very respectful.

1434
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,060
I mean, then understand what is it to go through,

1435
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:36,320
you know,

1436
01:51:36,380 --> 01:51:37,380
legally chosen.

1437
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:43,880
For my experience, very respectful and, you know,

1438
01:51:44,140 --> 01:51:46,880
debating whatever regulation we impose.

1439
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,720
And what can I experience that you have with the city?

1440
01:51:53,700 --> 01:51:56,500
Are you going back to the same city, having the event there?

1441
01:51:56,660 --> 01:51:59,160
Yes, same city, same people, four times.

1442
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,320
So, you really should have with the city was pretty well.

1443
01:52:02,460 --> 01:52:03,500
I've been worked out great.

1444
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:14,060
I believe that for last 2019 I was asked to provide a letter from them and I think I provided it

1445
01:52:14,060 --> 01:52:17,140
and I'll be happy to do that again for you.

1446
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:17,460
Okay.

1447
01:52:18,020 --> 01:52:23,160
Now, if you need any volunteers for quality control, sign me up.

1448
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:25,460
Thank you, signed.

1449
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:30,760
Well, I believe last time the Mayor of Rotem had you up here, he was encouraging you

1450
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:36,220
if you had any way to have some type of a charitable arm

1451
01:52:36,220 --> 01:52:40,620
to some of our local charities,

1452
01:52:41,300 --> 01:52:43,420
especially those that benefit the use of the seniors.

1453
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:45,600
So you might want to just keep that in mind.

1454
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,770
That's of course not a condition of a person's.

1455
01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:54,020
But we certainly encourage that type of behavior for some.

1456
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:54,960
We do.

1457
01:52:55,460 --> 01:52:59,020
And that was in the van for the senior center.

1458
01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:03,400
All right, any other questions or counsel?

1459
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:05,300
I do have one quick one.

1460
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,280
You know, given the fact that you go to sporting events,

1461
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,320
a lot of baseball games, football games, professional.

1462
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:16,040
And they stopped serving alcohol.

1463
01:53:17,060 --> 01:53:21,720
Sometimes earlier in the game, maybe like the last quarter of a football game,

1464
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:24,500
or a seventh inning of a baseball game.

1465
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,920
Should we limit the time when indulging?

1466
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:32,120
I mean, is this something we want to talk about or it's seven o'clock, I mean, the

1467
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:32,680
big ol' episode?

1468
01:53:32,740 --> 01:53:41,100
I think the difference is, that's what this event is, is looking at the products where

1469
01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:45,740
a ballgame you have the ballgame and then those other activities are ancillary to the

1470
01:53:45,740 --> 01:53:46,100
ballgame.

1471
01:53:46,660 --> 01:53:47,900
I thought I'd just bring it up with you.

1472
01:53:48,340 --> 01:53:52,460
I'm not discreet with you, but I part of that appeals to me, but I think frankly, if

1473
01:53:52,460 --> 01:53:57,600
you stopped serving at six o'clock, most people would leave it, because there's no reason

1474
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:01,060
I don't want to hurt this finance, so I just want to throw that in this part.

1475
01:54:01,420 --> 01:54:07,140
I would be, I would personally agree with you more if this was running pretty late,

1476
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,860
but if they're proposing a close at seven o'clock, so.

1477
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:11,540
I agree, Mr. Mayan.

1478
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:19,260
So, first of all, there's no alcohol just to be clear, there's zero alcohol.

1479
01:54:20,580 --> 01:54:28,870
And then, I mean, consumption, you know, it will be 20% of the people.

1480
01:54:29,070 --> 01:54:32,270
Most people come to the business, take the sample, and go home.

1481
01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:35,690
For the more, you know, they'll go hang out to be outside.

1482
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:39,790
It's mostly will do during the day and at the last hour.

1483
01:54:42,630 --> 01:54:46,810
The outdoor is normally busy around midday.

1484
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:49,440
All right.

1485
01:54:49,700 --> 01:54:50,200
Good.

1486
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:50,920
Any other questions?

1487
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:55,990
All right, Council, it's in front of you now if somebody would like to make a motion one where the other.

1488
01:54:59,940 --> 01:55:00,780
All right.

1489
01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:01,940
Just something, huh?

1490
01:55:02,300 --> 01:55:04,420
Well, then we can, we can do a roll call.

1491
01:55:04,580 --> 01:55:10,240
I would ask if, if whoever makes the motion if you would make sure that you make sure that it's modified that the,

1492
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:17,140
the right chair is not, is, includes that the right chair is, is not going to be, or they're not going to use the parking lot at mission.

1493
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:24,500
And Mayor, the way to do that is to strike condition number 19 from the conditions of approval.

1494
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:25,100
All right.

1495
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,700
I don't know if that was that simple because there may have to be some wording modifications,

1496
01:55:28,940 --> 01:55:32,960
especially if part of the drop-off is also at the 13 and a half acres.

1497
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:34,720
But I'm okay.

1498
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:36,040
I'm okay with that.

1499
01:55:36,140 --> 01:55:36,940
So we have a mover.

1500
01:55:37,140 --> 01:55:39,300
Ernesto Gutierrez is okay with you to strike.

1501
01:55:39,460 --> 01:55:40,520
Action number 19.

1502
01:55:40,620 --> 01:55:41,020
Actually.

1503
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:44,800
What?

1504
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:51,960
the right chair in the strike what you want me to have the right

1505
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,280
sharing around long-gerald forward but there's actually a condition in there that gave

1506
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:59,960
them the ability to move the right sharing over to the mission plaza that was that was

1507
01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:05,560
condition 19 so the city manager suggest that we don't want to have the right share

1508
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:09,600
drop off over there with the people walking across the street that we strike so move

1509
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,220
to strike 19.

1510
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:17,000
OK, then I'll make the motion to accept the Hall of Flowers

1511
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,660
Tratial Special Use Permit December 2021

1512
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,740
with the condition of moving the right sharing on 19.

1513
01:56:25,020 --> 01:56:27,680
We have a motion by Council Member.

1514
01:56:27,780 --> 01:56:29,340
Part of all, you do I have a second?

1515
01:56:30,220 --> 01:56:31,220
Since we're doing it, voice.

1516
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,560
Second by Mayor Protem Gutierrez and the other discussion.

1517
01:56:36,340 --> 01:56:37,840
Then I'll ask for a roll, call vote.

1518
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:40,660
Council member Ross?

1519
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:41,100
Yes.

1520
01:56:41,500 --> 01:56:42,260
Council member Lam?

1521
01:56:42,940 --> 01:56:43,240
Yes.

1522
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:44,600
Council member Carnivali.

1523
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:46,780
Mayor Pro Tem Gutierrez?

1524
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:47,140
Yes.

1525
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:48,120
Mayor Gregory.

1526
01:56:48,460 --> 01:56:48,780
Yes.

1527
01:56:52,220 --> 01:56:55,500
If you'd be helpful to take a short break to get the computer going again,

1528
01:56:55,900 --> 01:56:57,280
or is that not going to help?

1529
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,120
We can just do roll call vote.

1530
01:56:59,380 --> 01:56:59,800
All right.

1531
01:57:04,710 --> 01:57:06,350
So let's just take a little two second break.

1532
01:57:06,450 --> 01:57:08,390
We can just, two minute break.

1533
01:57:08,470 --> 01:57:10,750
We can just kind of stay right here and hopefully you can get.

1534
01:57:10,750 --> 01:57:15,990
I, my, it's still on un-newed, so I may chair, but it doesn't move.

1535
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:22,360
I'd probably, I'd probably, I'd see like they last a while, and they poop out.

1536
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:23,940
Okay, it'll, in my last.

1537
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:31,960
All right, we're ready to move on.

1538
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:38,660
The next, next item on our agenda is item 7C and update on emergency actions related to COVID-19.

1539
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:39,700
Mr. City Manager.

1540
01:57:40,380 --> 01:57:40,980
Thank you, Mayor.

1541
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:41,960
Members of the Council.

1542
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:47,660
I wish I had better news on COVID-19, but the news is not good.

1543
01:57:49,120 --> 01:58:01,220
Our, we received updated numbers from the county today, related to Cathedral City, and our average daily total of new cases per day over the last seven days is now up almost to 20.

1544
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:11,260
To give you some perspective, the last time we were that high was February 8th, which was when we were coming off of the significant peak.

1545
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:21,840
That mirrors what we're seeing in the Riverside County numbers, the state of California

1546
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:29,240
numbers, and actually the one bit of good news, we're better off in California and

1547
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:34,820
in Riverside County than much of the United States, particularly the southeast, which is

1548
01:58:34,820 --> 01:58:39,120
seeing much higher surge numbers even than we are here.

1549
01:58:41,020 --> 01:58:48,260
I issued an emergency order on Thursday to require and thank you all for

1550
01:58:48,260 --> 01:58:55,060
complying with it for requiring masking in city halls and city facilities regardless

1551
01:58:55,060 --> 01:58:57,000
of vaccination status.

1552
01:58:58,580 --> 01:59:05,360
And so that applies to our staff and that applies to visitors to city facilities.

1553
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:12,860
So, at the very least, tonight, you will need to either ratify or rescind that emergency order.

1554
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:16,940
My recommendation, of course, would be to keep that in place.

1555
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,840
Right now, I would issue it as an expiration of September 30th.

1556
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:27,380
That can be modified, however, at any time, based on the conditions on the ground.

1557
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:28,180
So to speak.

1558
01:59:29,620 --> 01:59:50,200
I also attached to your staff report, that emergency order, but as well the actions taken by the Palm Springs City Council you have received a number of emails and comments from residents related to the actions that Palm Springs has taken, so I included those for your information.

1559
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:59,880
We have also experienced some cases among City staff recently, fortunately, everybody seems.

1560
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:16,220
Okay, I mean, they're not severe cases, but nonetheless that affects our ability to continue to, you know, be open and provide services when people have to be out and people that were in contact with them have to be quarantining and things like that.

1561
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:24,720
I will say that our human resources staff is doing a good job of managing that and staying on top of it and making sure that people receive the required notifications.

1562
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:35,300
And our department heads are doing the best they can to continue to keep the services going in the face of some of these shortages caused by people having to be out.

1563
02:00:35,660 --> 02:00:52,060
To that end, I would recommend that we go back temporarily to the use of email telephone and online services at City Hall rather than having people walk in to do that.

1564
02:00:52,060 --> 02:00:55,080
I think that's safer for our frontline staff

1565
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,840
and I think that that's safer for the public, honestly.

1566
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:01,980
And we did that for over a year and got pretty good at it.

1567
02:01:01,980 --> 02:01:05,840
And I think the conditions indicate that we should do that again now.

1568
02:01:06,980 --> 02:01:12,600
Other than that, I did provide you with a graph that shows visually

1569
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:19,420
what our case numbers look like and it goes actually over the course of the entire pandemic.

1570
02:01:19,420 --> 02:01:27,660
And what I find interesting is today, we're almost back to where we were with the summer time surge a year ago.

1571
02:01:27,820 --> 02:01:35,980
And of course, at that time, restaurants were closed and everything, almost everything was shut down.

1572
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:39,200
So I think we've seen it at the time.

1573
02:01:39,620 --> 02:01:40,000
Pardon me?

1574
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:41,280
There were no vaccines at the time.

1575
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:42,560
There were no vaccines at the time.

1576
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:44,600
Now we've learned a lot since then.

1577
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:48,980
And I think that that is helping to better manage situations.

1578
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:54,220
We know with some, and help, I'm quoting health officials.

1579
02:01:54,660 --> 02:01:59,640
Health officials know with some degree of certainty that things like face covering actually

1580
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,240
help to reduce the numbers.

1581
02:02:02,620 --> 02:02:07,520
So I think that that's sort of the good news that we have learned things over the last year.

1582
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:18,600
And as I indicated last time we have a fairly high rate of vaccination, this is by self-atestation, we have not asked people to prove it.

1583
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:25,880
In city hall we're about 85% and around the city total we're about 65%.

1584
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:36,820
That helps, but we are still experiencing as I indicated some degree of exposure and illness among our workforce.

1585
02:02:36,820 --> 02:02:53,460
So with that you have the opportunity to discuss any type of options that you'd like to meet me to consider in terms of further emergency orders and I will stop with that.

1586
02:02:53,780 --> 02:02:55,020
Thank you.

1587
02:02:55,460 --> 02:02:55,900
All right.

1588
02:02:56,340 --> 02:02:57,640
Thank you very much.

1589
02:02:57,860 --> 02:02:59,500
Any questions before public comments?

1590
02:03:02,190 --> 02:03:02,330
All right.

1591
02:03:02,550 --> 02:03:04,150
I'm going to go ahead and open up the public comments.

1592
02:03:04,350 --> 02:03:08,050
If you've joined us by Zoom and you wish to make a public comment on this item,

1593
02:03:08,050 --> 02:03:09,590
this is your opportunity to do so.

1594
02:03:09,690 --> 02:03:13,190
You please use the raised hand feature on your device.

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02:03:14,230 --> 02:03:16,450
The City Clerk will recognize you.

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02:03:16,450 --> 02:03:18,830
If you are joined by phone, please dial star 9.

1597
02:03:19,390 --> 02:03:21,490
If you are here in person, you will just speak on this item.

1598
02:03:21,750 --> 02:03:23,890
Hopefully you've turned out to turn to the speaker's card,

1599
02:03:24,030 --> 02:03:26,630
but if not, when the time comes,

1600
02:03:26,810 --> 02:03:29,350
please signal the clerks shall call on you.

1601
02:03:29,570 --> 02:03:30,050
City Clerk.

1602
02:03:31,210 --> 02:03:34,010
So we have a few hands raised on Zoom.

1603
02:03:34,250 --> 02:03:36,290
So the first speaker will be Alan Cavallo.

1604
02:03:36,290 --> 02:03:37,170
All

1605
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,020
right, welcome Mr. Corvalo.

1606
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,520
Yes, but evening, thank you for taking my call.

1607
02:03:46,540 --> 02:03:50,300
I know we're all suffering with COVID, fatigue, and mask fatigue.

1608
02:03:50,780 --> 02:03:54,160
But I think that public safety is always priority one.

1609
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:56,460
And I hope that you'll all make the right decision.

1610
02:03:57,400 --> 02:04:00,200
And really enforce it for public safety.

1611
02:04:01,060 --> 02:04:07,760
I have to commend Charlie for wanting to go back to how the city was being run

1612
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:10,360
with the City Hall being closed to the public.

1613
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,840
I do think that that is the best interest of the public.

1614
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,560
I also want to make sure that when council members

1615
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:19,520
are questioned about agenda items,

1616
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:22,740
it's really helpful for you to answer the questions

1617
02:04:22,740 --> 02:04:25,820
of the constituents, the people that voted you into office.

1618
02:04:26,340 --> 02:04:27,760
When you avoid the question,

1619
02:04:28,260 --> 02:04:30,960
recently, council member Lam was asked a question

1620
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:32,280
and it was put all over Facebook

1621
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:34,200
that she avoided answering the question,

1622
02:04:34,220 --> 02:04:36,160
which was this exact question.

1623
02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:41,140
how do you feel about public safety and concerns about COVID?

1624
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:46,200
We have a right to know how you feel before you come here and allow other council members

1625
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:47,540
to influence your decision.

1626
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:48,960
That's my concern.

1627
02:04:49,380 --> 02:04:53,340
So I appreciate being given an opportunity to address this, but we're watching everything

1628
02:04:53,340 --> 02:04:58,800
you guys are doing and we really appreciate that you keep public safety in focus.

1629
02:04:59,020 --> 02:04:59,740
Thank you very much.

1630
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:00,460
All right.

1631
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,160
Thank you.

1632
02:05:04,300 --> 02:05:08,140
The next speaker is going to be Danny Lee.

1633
02:05:09,340 --> 02:05:10,220
All right.

1634
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:11,860
Welcome to Danny Lee.

1635
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:13,460
If you don't mute yourself, you have three minutes.

1636
02:05:14,900 --> 02:05:15,640
Thank you.

1637
02:05:16,220 --> 02:05:16,240
Yes.

1638
02:05:17,460 --> 02:05:27,480
I welcomed both the city managers actions this week, but also I've read through the changes

1639
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:33,740
that the Palm Springs made, and I see it's also in your agenda packet, and I re-read it

1640
02:05:33,740 --> 02:05:39,220
again this evening. It strikes me that they've gone in exactly the right direction in order

1641
02:05:39,220 --> 02:05:44,700
to protect the city and the public. And I think we need to go a lot further than where

1642
02:05:44,700 --> 02:05:53,300
we are right now. Another point that I'd like to make is that with the two cities, Cathedral

1643
02:05:53,300 --> 02:06:01,120
city of Palm Springs being adjacent and having a lot of commercial traffic between the

1644
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:05,780
two, often people shop in both locations, for example, or go to restaurants in both

1645
02:06:05,780 --> 02:06:11,660
locations. It will be really helpful if we could get to a point where changes are

1646
02:06:11,660 --> 02:06:17,860
coordinated across the two cities and where emergency orders were actually applicable in

1647
02:06:17,860 --> 02:06:24,860
cities were possible. So for example if masks are required in Palm Springs

1648
02:06:24,860 --> 02:06:30,320
stores then we should have that same change if applicable in Cathedral City.

1649
02:06:30,500 --> 02:06:34,700
I'm not saying that they should be in lockstep but I do think that it would be

1650
02:06:34,700 --> 02:06:40,800
beneficial for residents for changes to be consistent across cities and also

1651
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:45,740
good for businesses to know where they stand particularly if they have

1652
02:06:45,740 --> 02:06:52,880
most cities. So I would highly recommend going much more towards the way that Palm Springs has

1653
02:06:52,880 --> 02:07:01,680
got this now and ensuring that we protect citizens with mask wearing in all premises and

1654
02:07:02,940 --> 02:07:10,540
and taking on board their recommendations for restaurants, pubs and other outlets. Thank you.

1655
02:07:10,540 --> 02:07:13,340
Thank you for your comments. Next speaker.

1656
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:18,020
The next speaker is Bob Oda.

1657
02:07:23,140 --> 02:07:24,060
Hi, can you hear me?

1658
02:07:24,340 --> 02:07:25,460
Yes, welcome, Mr Oda.

1659
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:26,820
Good evening.

1660
02:07:28,460 --> 02:07:33,840
Well, I guess we're all alarmed by the increase in community transmission that's been taking place.

1661
02:07:35,460 --> 02:07:38,580
And we all kind of want to think through and do the right thing.

1662
02:07:39,940 --> 02:07:42,580
I have a concern the same concern that Danny has

1663
02:07:42,580 --> 02:07:49,360
is I know people now that are starting to go from cathedral city to Palm Springs to do their shopping.

1664
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:54,780
And to eat in restaurants and go to bars because they don't feel safe in our city.

1665
02:07:55,500 --> 02:07:58,580
I know I don't feel safe in my local gym here.

1666
02:07:59,420 --> 02:08:02,540
And so I'm considering quitting and going to a gym in Palm Springs.

1667
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:09,280
I think you can take some prudent actions and that would help out.

1668
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:16,340
And I would just encourage you to take the same actions as Palm Springs did regarding face

1669
02:08:16,340 --> 02:08:18,620
coverings, to be worn in businesses.

1670
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:26,000
I think the details in their emergency action are both very specific and wise.

1671
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:31,060
The one thing they didn't cover was social distancing requirements.

1672
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:37,320
I think those could be included as well, especially in places like grocery store, checkout

1673
02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:50,280
I know the other day I was in status, somebody was probably a foot from my backside in line, and I just felt very uncomfortable.

1674
02:08:51,940 --> 02:09:03,080
I also think you could consider recommending or requiring local bars and restaurants to provide proof of vaccination or a negative COVID test for entry.

1675
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:09,680
I know the bars, some of the bars in Palm Springs started that, before it was required.

1676
02:09:10,620 --> 02:09:18,880
And the bar owners actually reported that their customers appreciated it, and their business was going up instead of going down.

1677
02:09:19,700 --> 02:09:30,880
You could also require that for all city permitted large events, especially those that are required a conditional use report like use permit,

1678
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:36,020
like you just approved for the trade show so anyway, do you want to thank you for your

1679
02:09:36,020 --> 02:09:41,380
continuing efforts to protect our quality of life and our livelihoods and I know

1680
02:09:41,380 --> 02:09:45,180
we're all in this together so we'll work it out together. Thanks again.

1681
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:49,180
Thank you very much. Any other speakers?

1682
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,020
Looks like Denise Cross would like to speak.

1683
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:54,640
All

1684
02:09:58,860 --> 02:10:05,080
right. Welcome Denise Cross. Thank you for all you guys.

1685
02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:12,860
do. I appreciate you so much. It is true that Palm Springs restaurants actually, if you're

1686
02:10:12,860 --> 02:10:19,520
not vaccinated, you don't work them. All visitors have to provide a vaccination card with

1687
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:27,380
ID and wear a mask. Village Fest outside is masked and I would like to see that whatever is

1688
02:10:27,380 --> 02:10:35,060
going on in our city, particularly possibly at big league dreams, I don't know what else

1689
02:10:35,060 --> 02:10:35,800
goes on.

1690
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:47,040
But that is a certain amount of comfort because it's just spreading too fast and we worry

1691
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:48,920
about the unvaccinated mostly.

1692
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:55,220
So keep doing what you're doing and thank you so much, Charlie, for always staying up

1693
02:10:55,220 --> 02:11:09,680
and I appreciate that and I hope all private sector joins in on whatever it is possible to keep us keep this the numbers down in our hospital beds open.

1694
02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:11,680
Thank you.

1695
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:13,220
Thank you very much.

1696
02:11:14,380 --> 02:11:15,280
Any other speakers?

1697
02:11:16,740 --> 02:11:22,960
I see no other hands via Zoom and I did not receive any request to speak forms here.

1698
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:26,940
is there any member of the audience that would like to speak on this item?

1699
02:11:28,660 --> 02:11:32,360
All right, then go ahead and close comments or turn the matter back to the council.

1700
02:11:35,250 --> 02:11:36,270
Council member Lam.

1701
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:47,200
Yes, thank you so much and thank you for your presentation and thank you for those comments and

1702
02:11:47,940 --> 02:11:54,480
you know the editorial voice and the desert sun just to me it just summed it up perfectly.

1703
02:11:54,480 --> 02:12:02,500
And despite the complaints of allowed minority, there's no excuse for those who are able to be vaccinated, not to have done so at this point.

1704
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:12,560
And I had a chance to chat with several people over the last week or so as the instances of COVID-19 escalated.

1705
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:16,480
And they were sharing with me the incident in Bouton.

1706
02:12:16,660 --> 02:12:20,120
Bouton has 93% of their community vaccinated.

1707
02:12:21,460 --> 02:12:23,740
And they did it in less than three weeks.

1708
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:30,060
And there are two overarching issues where it's the science

1709
02:12:30,060 --> 02:12:31,480
and solidarity.

1710
02:12:32,540 --> 02:12:36,000
And we are a community of attraction rather than promotion.

1711
02:12:36,500 --> 02:12:39,360
And we want our business community to thrive,

1712
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:41,860
and our personal safety to be secure.

1713
02:12:41,860 --> 02:12:49,240
So, the specifics that our city manager has talked about are brilliant and I think we need

1714
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:53,860
to reinforce that and whatever else specifically we need to do to ensure their community

1715
02:12:53,860 --> 02:12:55,960
is safe and this does not spread.

1716
02:12:56,740 --> 02:13:03,740
Over the course of these 30, we've had, you know, for 18 months we've had these discussions

1717
02:13:03,740 --> 02:13:14,200
There have been 30, 32 conversations about this in City Council and the chambers of commerce,

1718
02:13:15,260 --> 02:13:22,540
specific cities and across Coachella Valley have talked about our reliance, perhaps over reliance on tourism.

1719
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:28,580
And if tourists are not going to feel safe coming here, they're not going to feel safe and we're going to suffer.

1720
02:13:28,580 --> 02:13:33,560
And so what we can do and actions that we need to take, I think that's our responsibility.

1721
02:13:34,380 --> 02:13:34,700
Thank you.

1722
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:38,000
Thank you.

1723
02:13:38,220 --> 02:13:39,120
Councilmember Ross.

1724
02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:40,740
Thank you so much.

1725
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:46,140
This opportunity to speak on what is a dire and important issue.

1726
02:13:47,700 --> 02:13:51,840
I do not think that people should be forced to take a vaccine.

1727
02:13:52,500 --> 02:13:55,800
But that doesn't mean I don't think they have responsibilities.

1728
02:13:56,480 --> 02:14:02,260
and they don't have actions that may impact them.

1729
02:14:02,700 --> 02:14:06,400
So for instance, I support the idea of closing the city hall,

1730
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:08,760
but when we talk about city staff,

1731
02:14:09,500 --> 02:14:11,640
I don't think we can put a needle in anybody's arm

1732
02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:13,780
who doesn't want to take the vaccine,

1733
02:14:14,420 --> 02:14:16,840
but we can require testing.

1734
02:14:17,480 --> 02:14:19,900
We can say that if you are not vaccinated,

1735
02:14:20,140 --> 02:14:23,820
you must prove weekly that you are COVID-free.

1736
02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:35,860
If you are to roam the halls with us, there are thousands of children in our street who are not not our streets, but you know in our city who are not eligible to be vaccinated.

1737
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:52,040
They have no protection other than masks, and it is our responsibility as adults, and especially our responsibility in my estimation as city leaders to make sure that we do everything we can to protect the citizens of our city.

1738
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:59,980
Many, many years ago, 30 probably now, the state of Oregon voted on whether or not to dis-

1739
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,560
This allows smoking in bars in Oregon. And it was a brew-ha-ha for sure, and the restaurant owner said,

1740
02:15:06,660 --> 02:15:12,120
you're going to put us out of business all of our customer smoke. But it turned out 80% of the people

1741
02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:18,800
didn't smoke. And yes, the smokers didn't smoke inside the restaurants anymore, but businesses

1742
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:26,380
increased because they appreciated having a consideration on their behalf. This is way more than

1743
02:15:26,380 --> 02:15:30,240
just somebody smelling or being affected by some cigarette smoke.

1744
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:33,460
This is potentially putting people in danger.

1745
02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:37,580
And I for one, and I am just one of this body,

1746
02:15:38,040 --> 02:15:42,540
would like to do everything in my power to protect our city,

1747
02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:46,200
our city, employees, and this very council.

1748
02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:48,080
Thank you.

1749
02:15:48,260 --> 02:15:48,680
Thank you.

1750
02:15:48,860 --> 02:15:50,100
Council member Carnivalding.

1751
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:56,180
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1752
02:15:59,220 --> 02:16:03,340
This situation here is one of those you're darned if you do it if you don't.

1753
02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:08,840
You know, act into quickly, it can be, it could hurt business.

1754
02:16:09,500 --> 02:16:12,900
You know, not acting quickly enough has its consequences.

1755
02:16:14,580 --> 02:16:15,500
I agree with Council.

1756
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:23,780
The most important thing here on this council is to protect our staff members here at City Hall,

1757
02:16:23,780 --> 02:16:29,780
our residents and visiting terrorists that come into town here.

1758
02:16:31,380 --> 02:16:36,520
It's inevitable that we're going to have to do something, but when do you want to do it?

1759
02:16:36,740 --> 02:16:37,600
Do you want to do it tonight?

1760
02:16:37,860 --> 02:16:38,820
Do you want to do it next week?

1761
02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:40,540
How are we going to do it?

1762
02:16:40,580 --> 02:16:41,960
I think there's got to be a plan.

1763
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:43,260
I think we have to move forward.

1764
02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:48,100
Did we single out restaurants and just say, just restaurants or the only one that has, you

1765
02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:52,560
have to wear a mask and restaurants or like, I don't know, we just said earlier, the

1766
02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:58,540
gentleman on the phone and supermarkets, do we have that control to do that?

1767
02:16:59,260 --> 02:17:03,100
I mean, how do we get the message out that we want to do something here at Katito City

1768
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:05,940
and get it done?

1769
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:12,400
I agree with Councilmember Ross, we have to do something, but we can't force people to do it.

1770
02:17:13,420 --> 02:17:20,400
I'm kind of, I'm more leaning on doing some kind of regulation that we have to wear masks

1771
02:17:20,400 --> 02:17:24,520
in indoors, maybe all businesses, but it has to be planned out.

1772
02:17:24,640 --> 02:17:25,500
This can't be what I want.

1773
02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:27,620
It's got to be what this council wants here.

1774
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:31,880
But I would suggest take the next week, maybe two,

1775
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,200
or maybe the emergency meeting that we have.

1776
02:17:34,660 --> 02:17:37,020
We could discuss it and come up with the plan.

1777
02:17:37,780 --> 02:17:39,180
It's inevitable what we're going to do is something.

1778
02:17:40,300 --> 02:17:42,140
But I don't have all the answers for it.

1779
02:17:42,540 --> 02:17:44,300
So I think we've got to be a little bit more aggressive.

1780
02:17:45,100 --> 02:17:49,040
We have to be more considerate to the individuals that are concerned.

1781
02:17:49,880 --> 02:17:56,860
So, that being said, I'd like to see something move forward, but what I'm not sure tonight

1782
02:17:56,860 --> 02:17:58,060
would I have in mind.

1783
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:00,680
Thank you.

1784
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:01,280
Thank you.

1785
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:02,260
Mayor Patem Gutierrez.

1786
02:18:02,980 --> 02:18:03,660
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1787
02:18:04,200 --> 02:18:07,500
I have to agree with what my colleagues have to say.

1788
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:13,960
All of them have made great comments and including Charlie has made some remarkable decisions

1789
02:18:14,660 --> 02:18:16,540
in his statement on top of this pandemic.

1790
02:18:16,540 --> 02:18:23,800
we do have to make sure that we protect our residents and our employees, but one thing for

1791
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:31,260
sure that I have to echo with what Council Member Ross mentioned, the vaccine is not fully

1792
02:18:31,260 --> 02:18:39,000
approved. I did it, but I cannot force any individual to take into force and to get it

1793
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:48,680
vaccine. If a cancer patient has the right to deny and to reject the any medication that

1794
02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:55,240
will cure on from cancer, we have the right not to take this vaccine if we don't want

1795
02:18:55,240 --> 02:19:04,800
to. Now, once this has been talked about that, probably the next 3 to 5 weeks, this vaccine

1796
02:19:04,800 --> 02:19:08,100
or at least one of them will be approved by the FDA.

1797
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:13,520
Now, if that's the case, then that changes things.

1798
02:19:14,020 --> 02:19:15,880
Any changes in the comments?

1799
02:19:16,180 --> 02:19:17,980
The council member kind of mentioned.

1800
02:19:18,700 --> 02:19:22,820
Then we can start making different decisions based on what

1801
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:27,860
the rate of infection turns out to be.

1802
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:32,680
In the meantime, I do not feel like we should be overstepping our boundaries.

1803
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:43,840
and did what our neighbor in city did, I think that's way over reaching when you don't have a vaccine and you take a test and that's has needs to be with

1804
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:53,360
insurance amount of time. Well that test is only as good as the minute that it was taken. Those people can

1805
02:19:53,360 --> 02:20:00,580
In fact, the very next minute, when they walk out out of the testing center, that is not

1806
02:20:00,580 --> 02:20:00,960
reliable.

1807
02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:03,780
It is not good to do that.

1808
02:20:04,360 --> 02:20:06,720
Now, I think we should take our time.

1809
02:20:07,640 --> 02:20:13,260
And if necessary, like I was mentioned by Councilman Kern Valley, have an emergency meeting

1810
02:20:13,260 --> 02:20:16,180
to take measures if need be.

1811
02:20:16,440 --> 02:20:22,680
But in the meantime, I think the measures that our CD manager has taken, I proper and I

1812
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:29,540
with them. And I believe that we should just stay with what he says. And if necessary,

1813
02:20:30,220 --> 02:20:34,900
make a difference changes as the necessary. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1814
02:20:36,260 --> 02:20:39,280
Thank you. And I see you, Council Member, let me let me chime in here.

1815
02:20:42,750 --> 02:20:45,410
So I hear everyone

1816
02:20:45,410 --> 02:20:51,510
saying safety is the most important. And when the gets bad enough, they will have to do something.

1817
02:20:52,670 --> 02:20:56,310
I think it's bad enough that we have to do something.

1818
02:20:58,050 --> 02:21:03,350
So I don't know exactly what that means that we need to wait.

1819
02:21:04,350 --> 02:21:07,050
Also, when it comes to masks,

1820
02:21:09,450 --> 02:21:14,470
I am clearly in support of what the city manager has already done.

1821
02:21:14,850 --> 02:21:19,610
I am very much in support of having a citywide mask mandate,

1822
02:21:19,610 --> 02:21:22,310
whether you're vaccinated or not, just like we did before.

1823
02:21:23,690 --> 02:21:26,730
And that would be everywhere, including the stores,

1824
02:21:27,570 --> 02:21:29,350
including the bars and restaurants and leisure actively.

1825
02:21:29,570 --> 02:21:31,490
And we had all of those exceptions before.

1826
02:21:32,370 --> 02:21:36,050
And that seems to be clear to me

1827
02:21:36,050 --> 02:21:38,790
that there's plenty of evidence to do that.

1828
02:21:39,150 --> 02:21:41,650
So that's the mask part.

1829
02:21:42,650 --> 02:21:45,850
When it comes to the meetings and closing city hall,

1830
02:21:46,170 --> 02:21:48,050
I believe that we should set a good example.

1831
02:21:48,090 --> 02:21:49,150
We should close city hall.

1832
02:21:49,150 --> 02:21:55,370
and we should go back to having our online meetings for a period of time, and I know that

1833
02:21:55,370 --> 02:21:58,910
probably the clock is ticking when we can have those unless something changes anyways,

1834
02:21:59,710 --> 02:22:07,310
but for a period of time, I think we should go back and do that. It keeps from having to have all of the staff here and exposed.

1835
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:14,470
So that's one mask or one question to me. They're easier and clearer. Vaccinations is another question.

1836
02:22:15,530 --> 02:22:24,050
So, I have to say, I agree that we shouldn't be forcing people to have needles in the arms.

1837
02:22:24,990 --> 02:22:34,990
But I think, again, that it's serious enough here that, and we've been kind of pushing this around a little bit as far as making a decision.

1838
02:22:34,990 --> 02:22:43,470
And I think we really ought to take a stance that there are certain circumstances where people

1839
02:22:43,470 --> 02:22:48,750
should either be vaccinated or be showing us a negative test within a reasonable period

1840
02:22:48,750 --> 02:22:49,290
of time.

1841
02:22:49,970 --> 02:22:52,990
I don't know about standing in the grocery store because people still need to get food.

1842
02:22:53,790 --> 02:22:57,230
Although one could argue that they have a choice here.

1843
02:22:57,550 --> 02:23:02,850
But other cities have certainly taken to bars and restaurants, and I know sometimes that

1844
02:23:02,850 --> 02:23:07,750
It feels like you're being unfair, but people have to take off their masks in the bars and restaurants.

1845
02:23:08,890 --> 02:23:16,310
So I certainly see a logic in requiring people either show proof of vaccination or a negative test in bars and restaurants.

1846
02:23:16,710 --> 02:23:24,370
And then the issue nobody wants to touch, but I think really as time that we least are talking about it is about our own city employees.

1847
02:23:24,370 --> 02:23:28,490
because while in some of our groups are as high as 85%,

1848
02:23:28,510 --> 02:23:34,390
some of our groups are actually scarily low in their vaccination rates,

1849
02:23:34,430 --> 02:23:36,370
even though the overall is 65%.

1850
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:40,570
And it has been pointed out even with the City Hall closed,

1851
02:23:41,290 --> 02:23:44,810
some of those groups, especially the ones with lower rates,

1852
02:23:44,810 --> 02:23:49,110
are the ones that are out there performing day-to-day contacts

1853
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:52,430
with member of the public, including children under 12

1854
02:23:52,430 --> 02:23:55,870
that couldn't get vaccinated even if they wanted to.

1855
02:23:56,450 --> 02:24:02,870
So I think that we should at least if not make a decision on that issue,

1856
02:24:03,090 --> 02:24:09,210
we should at least be signaling that this, that is an issue on our considerations.

1857
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:12,010
So those are, those are my thoughts.

1858
02:24:12,610 --> 02:24:16,070
Council Member Lam, your next for, for around two.

1859
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:39,700
Oh, there it goes, okay, great, and I agree with all that's being said, but I think there is a huge difference, and I'm not speaking from the CDC, I'm just saying there's a huge difference between a communal activity like eating and getting in a bar and taking your mask off.

1860
02:24:41,320 --> 02:24:45,700
So that folks that are vaccinated,

1861
02:24:47,920 --> 02:24:50,480
they're attracted to that, and they want to do that, and that's great.

1862
02:24:50,860 --> 02:25:00,700
But that everybody is at risk by allowing somebody not vaccinated and possibly has COVID or lethal.

1863
02:25:00,700 --> 02:25:10,180
So, in that I think is horrible, I mean, I think that is a false sense of security, assuming

1864
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:15,560
that they know what's best for them, and they're going to walk into an eating establishment.

1865
02:25:17,180 --> 02:25:19,140
So, I think there is a big difference,

1866
02:25:22,260 --> 02:25:27,600
and you know, in Councilman Ross talked about the children,

1867
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:33,540
I mean, here we have all these children at risk, they cannot, they cannot be vaccinated,

1868
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:39,500
they can't protect themselves, and they are 100% dependent on the adults using good

1869
02:25:39,500 --> 02:25:39,900
judgment.

1870
02:25:40,400 --> 02:25:46,460
I mean, my background is in primary education, and we, in, of this, of this, every parent

1871
02:25:46,460 --> 02:25:51,440
had to come in and have immunization record and present that before they came into this school.

1872
02:25:51,780 --> 02:25:52,760
Yes, there are exceptions.

1873
02:25:52,760 --> 02:25:57,980
I understand that. We've had children a thousand students at a school and there were some exceptions,

1874
02:25:58,540 --> 02:26:03,520
but by and large it was a safe camp. It was a safe camp. It was not by and large. It was a safe

1875
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:13,920
camp. And those exceptions were for other reasons. I just, I think I went to a school where we had

1876
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:22,180
One class per grade level was a little small school and one of my kindergarten buddies.

1877
02:26:22,900 --> 02:26:29,900
She contracted polio and she was two years old and we would walk around the playground on

1878
02:26:29,900 --> 02:26:36,100
her crutches and our playground was asphalt and it was a parking lot for the church on the weekends.

1879
02:26:36,100 --> 02:26:37,440
That was the playground.

1880
02:26:38,880 --> 02:26:45,400
So, you know, I saw that and when Jonah saw came through with the polio vaccine, we stood

1881
02:26:45,400 --> 02:26:47,720
in line and got our sugarcute, that's how old I am.

1882
02:26:48,280 --> 02:26:55,300
But it made a huge difference in my husband's lost two cousins to this disease, and it's

1883
02:26:55,300 --> 02:26:57,140
definitely impacted our family.

1884
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:01,060
And, you know, one fellow gentleman lived in Palm Springs near the other end of him.

1885
02:27:01,060 --> 02:27:17,040
So, it's not, it's not imaginary and we've had this conversation before and I think protecting the residents is what we need to do and the specific ways we're going to do it, you know, our city manager has already outlined some great things and we need to do something more.

1886
02:27:17,500 --> 02:27:18,540
Thank you.

1887
02:27:21,420 --> 02:27:21,820
Thank you.

1888
02:27:21,980 --> 02:27:22,860
Council Member Ross.

1889
02:27:23,440 --> 02:27:29,040
I'm going to try not to just repeat what I said before because, no, but that's pretty much where I stand.

1890
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:30,700
I concur with the mayor.

1891
02:27:31,100 --> 02:27:32,780
I thought I had shared that, too,

1892
02:27:33,080 --> 02:27:35,920
that I really believe city staff needs to either prove

1893
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:40,240
they've been vaccinated or a minimum of a test every week.

1894
02:27:40,380 --> 02:27:41,780
It tests are simple now.

1895
02:27:42,140 --> 02:27:43,060
They're not expensive.

1896
02:27:43,620 --> 02:27:45,740
It's easy to do, and it protects everybody.

1897
02:27:46,420 --> 02:27:48,680
Closing City Hall seems prudent for now.

1898
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:51,800
And the reason restaurants are single-ed out is because

1899
02:27:51,800 --> 02:27:53,620
you take your mask off while you're in the restaurant.

1900
02:27:54,140 --> 02:27:56,580
That's how it's different than the lingerie store,

1901
02:27:56,900 --> 02:27:58,300
or different than the cigar shop.

1902
02:27:58,300 --> 02:28:07,160
And when you, if we have the citywide mask mandate, then all of the other stores, all of the other establishments,

1903
02:28:07,660 --> 02:28:11,240
will not be affected by not having a mask mandate.

1904
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:13,000
They'll still be protected in those stores.

1905
02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:20,420
And I assure you for restaurant tears, I know my husband and I will start going out to restaurants all the time

1906
02:28:20,420 --> 02:28:22,660
if we know that they're safe to enter.

1907
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:24,800
Because right now we're a little nervous.

1908
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:27,220
everybody should be a little nervous.

1909
02:28:27,900 --> 02:28:29,580
These are nerve-wracking times.

1910
02:28:30,040 --> 02:28:31,480
Thank you.

1911
02:28:31,620 --> 02:28:32,320
Thank you.

1912
02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:35,540
All right, so we have a number of items.

1913
02:28:35,980 --> 02:28:36,600
I'll get to you.

1914
02:28:36,700 --> 02:28:39,480
We have a number of items that we'll need to cover.

1915
02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:45,160
Starting with our ratification or removal of the existing order.

1916
02:28:45,580 --> 02:28:50,140
So Mr. City Attorney, if we want to touch on some of these other

1917
02:28:51,280 --> 02:29:00,440
possible orders tonight, does that require a vote to put on the agenda or is it is the

1918
02:29:00,440 --> 02:29:03,440
topic broad enough that we can discuss the other items?

1919
02:29:04,880 --> 02:29:08,880
We're still operating under an emergency order and the emergency order the brown act allows

1920
02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:12,080
you to add things to the agenda that relate to this item.

1921
02:29:14,180 --> 02:29:18,200
It would hurt to hold the vote to just add it to the agenda.

1922
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:23,000
I think we've got the authority to do it anyway, especially since it's the Palm Springs

1923
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:27,120
ordinances are included in here for your order, for your consideration.

1924
02:29:29,500 --> 02:29:34,280
But just to avoid anybody who might want to pick the Brown Act or if you want to add an

1925
02:29:34,280 --> 02:29:43,320
item subsequent to the preparation of the agenda to talk about a citywide mass span and

1926
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:52,020
potentially a requirement that city employees provide proof of vaccination or get

1927
02:29:52,020 --> 02:29:52,680
COVID tests.

1928
02:29:52,800 --> 02:29:55,540
I think those two things are the main things I hear from the council.

1929
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:59,980
We certainly can add those to the agenda by a-

1930
02:30:04,900 --> 02:30:08,800
So, would that be one motion and vote or would that be item by item?

1931
02:30:09,420 --> 02:30:15,780
You can do both of them at once if the maker of the motion would like or if the maker of the motion wants to just do one.

1932
02:30:15,860 --> 02:30:18,080
Somebody else in the number, that's at you.

1933
02:30:18,420 --> 02:30:21,220
All right. Mayor Perkamp, good to hear us.

1934
02:30:21,420 --> 02:30:29,360
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. One thing that would not talk about is the population in our city is relatively young.

1935
02:30:29,360 --> 02:30:35,480
There's a lot of families in those families have a lot of kids that are under 12 years old

1936
02:30:35,480 --> 02:30:37,240
that they cannot be vaccinated.

1937
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:43,980
When those families want to go out to restaurants or shopping or anything,

1938
02:30:44,460 --> 02:30:46,540
they are not eligible to be vaccinated.

1939
02:30:47,540 --> 02:30:50,180
So we also have to think about those families,

1940
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:53,500
how do we treat them? What's going to happen with them?

1941
02:30:53,540 --> 02:30:55,440
As we make any decision tonight.

1942
02:30:55,960 --> 02:30:56,620
Thank you.

1943
02:30:56,620 --> 02:30:59,100
Yeah, I think you're correct.

1944
02:30:59,260 --> 02:31:01,040
We would have to make sure we have an exception.

1945
02:31:01,360 --> 02:31:02,820
We couldn't require somebody to be vaccinated

1946
02:31:02,820 --> 02:31:04,420
that can't legally be vaccinated.

1947
02:31:04,900 --> 02:31:06,140
So good point.

1948
02:31:07,380 --> 02:31:07,460
All right.

1949
02:31:08,220 --> 02:31:11,800
So if there's nothing else, let's at least start with what I hope

1950
02:31:11,800 --> 02:31:15,860
is the easier one and the one that's on the agenda tonight.

1951
02:31:17,340 --> 02:31:20,960
And that is ratification, or that's specifically

1952
02:31:20,960 --> 02:31:25,640
on the agenda tonight, which is ratification of the emergency

1953
02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:29,760
order number four, the order requiring face coverings and public indoor settings

1954
02:31:29,760 --> 02:31:32,760
owned or controlled by the city of Cathedral City.

1955
02:31:34,160 --> 02:31:37,820
So I would ask if do we have, are we doing still doing voice

1956
02:31:37,820 --> 02:31:38,420
votes?

1957
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:44,240
On this one, we can go ahead and attempt to see if the system is working.

1958
02:31:44,420 --> 02:31:45,960
It should be working fine.

1959
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:50,100
The other items will address when we get there.

1960
02:31:50,580 --> 02:31:56,170
All right, so if someone would like to make a motion,

1961
02:31:56,170 --> 02:32:02,170
do either ratify or not ratify? Tell us which one your your motion is.

1962
02:32:11,310 --> 02:32:16,030
All right, we have motion by Ernesto, Mayor for Tim Ernesto Gutierrez and second of

1963
02:32:16,030 --> 02:32:23,290
I council member Mark Carnivali to ratify emergency order number four. Please vote.

1964
02:32:26,940 --> 02:32:29,680
Are you not having trouble considering our office stop working?

1965
02:32:33,330 --> 02:32:36,150
Yes. Thank you.

1966
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:38,410
and the motion carries with all eyes?

1967
02:32:38,970 --> 02:32:44,250
All right, I would like to propose that we consider additional

1968
02:32:44,250 --> 02:32:44,890
motions.

1969
02:32:46,330 --> 02:32:48,690
I guess we can take these one at a time, I don't want anybody

1970
02:32:48,690 --> 02:32:49,790
to feel like so.

1971
02:32:50,090 --> 02:32:53,330
So I would like to at least consider an item requiring

1972
02:32:53,330 --> 02:33:02,290
a mask mandate in Cathedral City in all public spaces,

1973
02:33:02,490 --> 02:33:05,510
similar to the one that we had in place before,

1974
02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:07,570
or with the appropriate exceptions,

1975
02:33:10,750 --> 02:33:12,690
and I don't know if I need to really go through those

1976
02:33:13,850 --> 02:33:16,170
because we had those in place before.

1977
02:33:17,750 --> 02:33:25,430
Like things like when you're actually eating or if you are under certain age, have a medical

1978
02:33:25,430 --> 02:33:25,970
excuse.

1979
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:32,110
Yeah, I think if we just went back, I was going to say, yeah, if you don't have to read through

1980
02:33:33,290 --> 02:33:38,710
if you're of a mind to follow the format that Pawn Springs did, they have a comprehensive

1981
02:33:38,710 --> 02:33:43,870
ordinance. The only thing I would recommend is for order. The only thing I would recommend

1982
02:33:43,870 --> 02:33:48,210
is that we articulate the health reasons why we're doing that. They didn't do that in the

1983
02:33:48,210 --> 02:33:52,890
recitals. There should be enough data to do that at this point that helps the enforceability

1984
02:33:52,890 --> 02:33:57,870
of the ordinance and otherwise unless there's something you want to change in the Pawn Springs

1985
02:33:57,870 --> 02:34:02,970
version. It's fairly comprehensive. So, as this version you're looking at, has that include

1986
02:34:02,970 --> 02:34:06,570
the exceptions for, like, salon services and those types of things that Palm Springs

1987
02:34:06,570 --> 02:34:07,550
Dem leader modified?

1988
02:34:10,180 --> 02:34:11,320
Let me just go through.

1989
02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:18,120
Let me just go through what it covers. Effective immediately, all persons regardless of

1990
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:22,760
vaccination status must wear face coverings indoors when out of public place, including

1991
02:34:22,760 --> 02:34:28,700
that not limited to, then it lists all the various types of businesses. Face coverings

1992
02:34:28,700 --> 02:34:34,460
are not required to be warned by people who are at home in the car alone, or with members of

1993
02:34:34,460 --> 02:34:41,620
their own household, seated at a table or bar at a restaurant. However, if an employee approaches

1994
02:34:41,620 --> 02:34:46,100
the table bar, each person at that table must put their face covering on while the employees

1995
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:52,080
present. Children under the age of two due to the risk of suffocation, outdoors, people for whom

1996
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:58,440
seeing the mouth is essential for communication. People for whom wearing a mask would create a risk

1997
02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:04,440
as they work as specifically determined by local state or federal regulations and those with a

1998
02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:10,220
health condition whose medical provider has advised against wearing a face covering and can provide

1999
02:35:10,220 --> 02:35:14,580
documentation. And then it goes on to say that they have to wear at least wear a face shield.

2000
02:35:16,920 --> 02:35:21,640
And then it talks as hours did before about that businesses must

2001
02:35:21,640 --> 02:35:28,780
request, require their employees, and post-assign and take reasonable steps to keep people

2002
02:35:28,780 --> 02:35:29,800
who are not wearing a fit.

2003
02:35:29,820 --> 02:35:35,460
All of that language is almost exactly what our emergency order was previous.

2004
02:35:36,200 --> 02:35:40,160
So those are the exceptions that they have in theirs, and actually those are very, very

2005
02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:44,400
similar to the exceptions that we already had in emergency order 3D, which I think was the

2006
02:35:44,400 --> 02:35:47,620
most recent one prior to when it was repealed.

2007
02:35:47,620 --> 02:35:53,240
As my understanding, as bomb springs has already modified this order to exempt the wearing

2008
02:35:53,240 --> 02:35:59,940
of a mask when somebody receiving salon, services, facial haircuts, those types of things,

2009
02:36:00,820 --> 02:36:05,480
but they don't have to wear a mask while they're actually obtaining the service.

2010
02:36:08,750 --> 02:36:13,390
And Mr. City Manager, if you'd clarify, you said something about outdoor, but I didn't

2011
02:36:13,390 --> 02:36:14,910
understand that in the context of this.

2012
02:36:14,910 --> 02:36:15,830
That was one of the exceptions.

2013
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:17,790
They're not required to be worn outdoors.

2014
02:36:17,790 --> 02:36:23,530
So, what if we had an event at the amphitheater with 2,500 people sitting side by side?

2015
02:36:24,330 --> 02:36:29,750
Well, I think that might be something that you would want to address our previous order

2016
02:36:30,410 --> 02:36:37,110
exempted the wearing of mass outdoors and less they were in a circumstance where they were unable to distance themselves from others.

2017
02:36:37,270 --> 02:36:38,190
I like that for a big.

2018
02:36:38,270 --> 02:36:46,930
Well, there was another part of the Palm Springs on the last P number two that says,

2019
02:36:46,930 --> 02:36:48,210
or public gatherings.

2020
02:36:48,670 --> 02:36:49,050
You're right.

2021
02:36:49,210 --> 02:36:49,750
I'm sorry.

2022
02:36:49,890 --> 02:36:51,210
I missed that.

2023
02:36:51,210 --> 02:36:55,830
A parade or other large gathering has determined by the city manager, director of emergency services.

2024
02:36:56,170 --> 02:36:58,130
If we included something like that.

2025
02:37:01,850 --> 02:37:10,340
So we need to, I make a motion that we at least consider such an order requiring face masks.

2026
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:12,280
Do I have a second?

2027
02:37:12,380 --> 02:37:12,860
Second?

2028
02:37:13,400 --> 02:37:15,100
Second by councilmember Lam.

2029
02:37:15,160 --> 02:37:16,200
This is just a consider.

2030
02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:17,060
This isn't a question.

2031
02:37:17,060 --> 02:37:18,200
I don't understand this consider.

2032
02:37:18,340 --> 02:37:19,920
Because we have to add it to the agenda.

2033
02:37:19,920 --> 02:37:23,460
that's what I was talking about. All right. So we will go and affect tonight this. It's just adding

2034
02:37:23,460 --> 02:37:28,400
it to the agenda. All right. Please talk about it. Yeah, the first even. Okay. First in the second,

2035
02:37:28,720 --> 02:37:34,120
roll call vote. Council member Ross. Yes. Council member Lam. Yes. Council member Carnivali.

2036
02:37:37,350 --> 02:37:37,370
Hi.

2037
02:37:38,650 --> 02:37:46,430
Mayor Protem Gutierrez. Yes. Mayor Gregory. Yes. So now that we've done that procedural item,

2038
02:37:46,470 --> 02:37:51,450
we can actually talk about if everyone's comfortable with that type of order or would like to move

2039
02:37:51,450 --> 02:37:57,450
So anyone wish to speak, let me know, or click your speaker button.

2040
02:38:00,910 --> 02:38:05,750
Everyone, Mr. Mayor, I would, it's hard to hear you with that mask on.

2041
02:38:05,890 --> 02:38:06,310
I apologize.

2042
02:38:06,690 --> 02:38:08,290
I'm definitely wondering if you can hear out the other.

2043
02:38:09,270 --> 02:38:10,970
What was that request you just made?

2044
02:38:11,610 --> 02:38:13,390
So now we have the item on our agenda.

2045
02:38:13,790 --> 02:38:15,170
It's in front of us for consideration.

2046
02:38:15,670 --> 02:38:17,070
So I didn't know if you had any comments.

2047
02:38:17,650 --> 02:38:19,190
Questions or anything like that?

2048
02:38:19,190 --> 02:38:20,630
They will move to public comments.

2049
02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:25,530
public we just added them to agenda consider a mask mandate throughout the city as we've

2050
02:38:25,530 --> 02:38:30,950
just discussed if you would like to make a comment on that this would be your chance to do so

2051
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:38,230
if you use the raised hand feature if you joined us on zoom or dial star 9 if you are

2052
02:38:38,230 --> 02:38:42,150
here in the room which looks like we have the press with us but if you want to speak you could

2053
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:46,890
fill out a speaker card or indicate to the clerk. City clerk.

2054
02:38:46,890 --> 02:38:49,190
We have a couple of hands raised.

2055
02:38:49,490 --> 02:38:51,190
The first speaker is Alan Kavalo.

2056
02:38:55,360 --> 02:38:55,540
All right.

2057
02:38:55,720 --> 02:38:56,640
Welcome Mr. Kavalo.

2058
02:38:56,920 --> 02:38:57,760
I hope you understand.

2059
02:38:57,960 --> 02:38:58,980
We've added an item.

2060
02:39:00,060 --> 02:39:00,300
Okay.

2061
02:39:00,440 --> 02:39:00,920
Thank you.

2062
02:39:01,180 --> 02:39:01,780
You have three minutes.

2063
02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:06,300
You're giving us an opportunity to voice our opinion.

2064
02:39:06,840 --> 02:39:09,380
I'm in favor of his extreme cases we can go.

2065
02:39:09,720 --> 02:39:14,140
And I think it's important for those of you on council that are concerned about businesses.

2066
02:39:14,720 --> 02:39:18,020
Dead people don't eat and they don't purchase goods.

2067
02:39:18,020 --> 02:39:25,440
So, if people are dead because you're concerned about businesses, they don't actually, they're no longer allowed to

2068
02:39:25,440 --> 02:39:28,020
to actually shop in your stores and eat at your restaurants.

2069
02:39:28,780 --> 02:39:29,620
So, this is serious.

2070
02:39:30,200 --> 02:39:32,340
You know, this is a very serious issue right now.

2071
02:39:32,420 --> 02:39:35,080
It is spreading worse than it did the first time.

2072
02:39:35,540 --> 02:39:37,520
So, you've got to take this very seriously.

2073
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:39,200
We're pounding on you.

2074
02:39:39,700 --> 02:39:42,260
Our health, our public health is reliant upon you.

2075
02:39:42,440 --> 02:39:47,880
When you make mentions about businesses, it sounds like that's more important to you than our public health.

2076
02:39:47,880 --> 02:39:51,700
So thank you very much. I appreciate being able to talk.

2077
02:39:52,660 --> 02:39:53,980
All right. Thank you.

2078
02:39:54,720 --> 02:39:55,040
Next speaker.

2079
02:39:55,280 --> 02:39:57,460
Next speaker is Denise Cross.

2080
02:40:00,090 --> 02:40:01,670
Welcome to Denise Cross.

2081
02:40:02,210 --> 02:40:03,070
Excuse me.

2082
02:40:03,470 --> 02:40:05,670
I keep going. Thank you very much.

2083
02:40:06,410 --> 02:40:08,250
And I absolutely.

2084
02:40:10,030 --> 02:40:11,190
Thank you.

2085
02:40:11,270 --> 02:40:12,140
All right. Thank you.

2086
02:40:13,330 --> 02:40:13,830
Next speaker.

2087
02:40:15,210 --> 02:40:17,290
There are no other hands raised at this time.

2088
02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:19,270
All right.

2089
02:40:19,270 --> 02:40:30,520
So now Council the item in front of us is to order a mass mandate, similar to the one that

2090
02:40:30,520 --> 02:40:37,960
Palm Springs, it's in your packet that Palm Springs has already put in place, similar to the

2091
02:40:37,960 --> 02:40:40,700
one we had before with exceptions.

2092
02:40:40,820 --> 02:40:45,660
And I would ask the exceptions for that we look at Palm Springs as exceptions for exceptions

2093
02:40:45,660 --> 02:40:50,120
that they've added for salon services or other services where you may need to access your

2094
02:40:50,120 --> 02:40:57,640
that the mass not required while they're actually performing the service for the person getting the service, not the not the employee.

2095
02:40:59,880 --> 02:41:02,280
So any discussion on that or any motion?

2096
02:41:02,680 --> 02:41:07,480
Yes, Mr. Mayor, for how long are we talking about?

2097
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:12,520
Do we have a proposal, Mr. City Manager?

2098
02:41:16,470 --> 02:41:17,050
Our City Attorney?

2099
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:23,180
We've allowed them based on the circumstances.

2100
02:41:23,180 --> 02:41:33,440
You obviously can put a 30, 60, 45, whatever kind of time limit you want on it, but in the past,

2101
02:41:33,700 --> 02:41:39,440
giving how fluid circumstances were we allowed them to be open and you could reconsider them

2102
02:41:39,440 --> 02:41:40,800
at each one of your meetings.

2103
02:41:42,220 --> 02:41:47,460
All right, so the proposal would be, until we send it, but we would have an item on every agenda

2104
02:41:47,460 --> 02:41:49,720
to discuss and possibly take action.

2105
02:41:49,720 --> 02:41:58,240
It differs from what the city manager has recommended with employees, but we're going to

2106
02:41:58,240 --> 02:42:00,840
actually revise his decision.

2107
02:42:05,360 --> 02:42:06,920
So, can you point out which way is it?

2108
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:07,960
It's different than the employees.

2109
02:42:08,620 --> 02:42:12,900
Well, he has it to resend a beliefs of timber or something.

2110
02:42:13,480 --> 02:42:15,160
I did emergency order in order for it.

2111
02:42:15,580 --> 02:42:21,660
It says September 30th and less extended, but it also has a note in there that the

2112
02:42:21,660 --> 02:42:25,900
you know, that's the city can rescind it at any time, so.

2113
02:42:27,020 --> 02:42:28,940
Okay, so September 30th.

2114
02:42:29,180 --> 02:42:30,600
So do we adjust?

2115
02:42:31,420 --> 02:42:33,720
Well, there are two different orders.

2116
02:42:34,180 --> 02:42:37,140
One is for all the businesses and then one is for the city hall.

2117
02:42:37,220 --> 02:42:42,940
Oh, theoretically we could rest in the one and keep the other one for a little period of time,

2118
02:42:43,700 --> 02:42:45,320
but I honestly want to tie them together.

2119
02:42:46,680 --> 02:42:48,700
But this order is flexible.

2120
02:42:49,260 --> 02:42:51,560
The one we just approved ratified is flexible.

2121
02:42:51,560 --> 02:42:56,940
And Mayor and Council, if you decided you wanted to keep this order that you're considering

2122
02:42:56,940 --> 02:43:02,560
open-ended, all you have to do is give us direction to say, hey, the order we ratified,

2123
02:43:02,580 --> 02:43:08,680
we wanted open-ended to, so we can make that adjustment or put time on its unfold plan.

2124
02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:14,760
Mayor, I do have a piece of information I want to provide to Council about these new orders.

2125
02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:17,900
This is a little different than the last circumstance.

2126
02:43:17,900 --> 02:43:34,980
But I don't think it changes your decision tonight, but I want you to keep in mind that when we last put these in place, we had State Health Department orders backed up by the Governor's Executive Order and County Health Official orders.

2127
02:43:35,080 --> 02:43:40,920
We don't have those in place right now with regard to the masking order that we're contemplating.

2128
02:43:42,340 --> 02:43:47,240
That's one of the reasons I think we should articulate in Charlie and I will work on this.

2129
02:43:47,320 --> 02:43:48,700
You don't need to worry about this tonight.

2130
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:51,360
The health reasons for doing this.

2131
02:43:51,860 --> 02:43:56,460
We will be able to enforce the ordinance by administrative citation.

2132
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:05,560
If we get into a condition where we're contemplating seeking an injunction level of enforcement,

2133
02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:08,720
then we'll have a close session on that to discuss that.

2134
02:44:08,720 --> 02:44:10,860
Okay, I just wanted to point that out to you.

2135
02:44:10,980 --> 02:44:17,460
So, Mr. City Attorney, can you give some language then on how you'd have this motion to reinstate a statewide mask mandate?

2136
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:23,440
I've heard similar to Palm Springs, I've heard we lay out our own, you want us to include?

2137
02:44:25,480 --> 02:44:37,480
From what I believe is the consensus that I've heard is that you would make a motion for the city to adopt an ordinance in

2138
02:44:38,840 --> 02:44:44,900
All similar respects to that of the Palm Springs ordinances in our packet with a few exceptions.

2139
02:44:45,220 --> 02:44:51,320
One, you would have us at a recital that articulates the health reasons for this ordinance.

2140
02:44:52,780 --> 02:44:56,140
Two, you mean giving exceptions for health reasons?

2141
02:44:57,240 --> 02:44:59,960
Yeah, we would know, we would, that's...

2142
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:19,400
That's in here already. If you can't wear a mask because you have a health reasons. That exception's in here. I'm suggesting we add some language upfront, articulating why this makes good health reasons. Why we have good documentation for valid health reasons to impose this.

2143
02:45:19,400 --> 02:45:20,320
That makes sense?

2144
02:45:20,620 --> 02:45:24,300
Yes, which is City Manager discussed and gave us a chart and all of that.

2145
02:45:24,300 --> 02:45:35,800
And I would be similar to the the warehouses and emergency order number four that site the California Department of Public Health Guidance and the CDC guidance.

2146
02:45:36,060 --> 02:45:36,740
Good.

2147
02:45:37,520 --> 02:45:47,780
And there was an intended exception to the mass group having to do with barbershops, beauty salons and anything else.

2148
02:45:47,880 --> 02:45:51,220
Any other type of service that required somebody to be unmasked.

2149
02:45:51,220 --> 02:45:53,480
I don't know going to the dentist or something of that nature.

2150
02:45:54,540 --> 02:46:01,480
And then I believe I heard an additional requirement or refinement for outdoor events.

2151
02:46:03,080 --> 02:46:09,500
I don't know if the council wanted to impose a occupancy limitation that would make the

2152
02:46:09,500 --> 02:46:14,840
mask requirement, or if it's just what I heard the city manager say is where you can't

2153
02:46:14,840 --> 02:46:16,020
safely, social distance.

2154
02:46:16,020 --> 02:46:18,060
I think number two.

2155
02:46:18,600 --> 02:46:24,160
So those would be the attitudes to the Palm Springs ordinance unless Council has-

2156
02:46:24,160 --> 02:46:30,060
Well, the Palm Springs ordinance does have a face coverings that large outdoor public gatherings.

2157
02:46:31,300 --> 02:46:34,200
On the third page, number two.

2158
02:46:34,440 --> 02:46:40,840
Sorry, I think our proposal was to essentially word it towards that.

2159
02:46:40,880 --> 02:46:43,320
Of course, we're meeting a village fest, which is the Palm Springs event.

2160
02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:53,760
Yes, unless you wanted to give some additional specificity to the large outdoor, but what we'll think this leads it up to the city.

2161
02:46:53,860 --> 02:46:54,160
That's fine.

2162
02:46:54,560 --> 02:46:56,260
We can go with that.

2163
02:46:56,660 --> 02:47:00,360
But I thought there I heard some comments about wanting to put it in the garage.

2164
02:47:01,920 --> 02:47:04,880
We really don't have any large advancing through the whole city.

2165
02:47:05,300 --> 02:47:12,120
We'll be having this one which will be later this year and things might change and we can make the position then.

2166
02:47:12,120 --> 02:47:17,620
Besides that, I don't see why we have to worry about it, because large events, what is

2167
02:47:17,620 --> 02:47:24,240
going to be more than 50 more than 500? What is it? We don't have large events here.

2168
02:47:24,780 --> 02:47:29,020
That's why I like the wording that didn't say large events, but in spaces where you cannot

2169
02:47:29,020 --> 02:47:35,440
socially distance, as determined by. It might be a movie theater, you know, where if there

2170
02:47:35,440 --> 02:47:38,820
were too many people in a small theater, you know, you couldn't socially distance.

2171
02:47:38,820 --> 02:47:40,720
This will be outdoor spaces.

2172
02:47:40,800 --> 02:47:43,920
I know that was a part of that, and the app driver, I don't know.

2173
02:47:44,420 --> 02:47:45,000
But you know what I'm saying?

2174
02:47:45,320 --> 02:47:47,040
So it's not the size of the app driver event.

2175
02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:49,220
It's how far apart you can be with one another.

2176
02:47:49,820 --> 02:47:53,780
I think we can talk about it if in the future, if necessary.

2177
02:47:54,340 --> 02:47:56,400
I think with what has been talked about,

2178
02:47:56,420 --> 02:47:57,320
I think it's efficient.

2179
02:48:02,460 --> 02:48:04,860
What I worry about that is we don't know how long this is going to go.

2180
02:48:05,040 --> 02:48:07,800
We don't know if somebody's going to plan an event tomorrow.

2181
02:48:08,740 --> 02:48:10,760
And then we have to bring it back in front of us.

2182
02:48:10,760 --> 02:48:16,800
And to me it seems reasonable to put something in there that would require masking it large

2183
02:48:16,800 --> 02:48:21,540
outdoor events and leave it up to the city manager to determine what that is.

2184
02:48:21,920 --> 02:48:27,180
Well, what I would recommend is what our previous orders said that masks are not required

2185
02:48:27,180 --> 02:48:35,220
outdoors unless you're in a situation where you're unable to socially distance from others.

2186
02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:40,420
And to me that makes more sense than specifying a size of a crowd because a small outdoor

2187
02:48:40,420 --> 02:48:47,020
area where there's only 10 people, maybe just as dangerous as a larger area where there's

2188
02:48:47,020 --> 02:48:47,940
100 people.

2189
02:48:48,260 --> 02:48:48,460
That's right.

2190
02:48:49,780 --> 02:48:57,600
And we had that golden lion's award at the end of the academic year for the Kethi Pocity

2191
02:48:57,600 --> 02:49:01,780
High School and people were six feet apart, but they were all wearing masks.

2192
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:06,680
So whatever happened there, that was interpreted to be the protocols that were to keep

2193
02:49:06,680 --> 02:49:07,600
everybody safe.

2194
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:09,820
So that was inactive then.

2195
02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:11,940
All right, so is there a buddy clear on the motion?

2196
02:49:13,780 --> 02:49:14,320
Anybody want something?

2197
02:49:14,360 --> 02:49:15,340
Anybody want to make motion?

2198
02:49:15,400 --> 02:49:16,000
Because I will.

2199
02:49:16,900 --> 02:49:17,860
All right, I move.

2200
02:49:17,980 --> 02:49:20,160
I move what the city attorney just outlined.

2201
02:49:21,160 --> 02:49:21,300
Good.

2202
02:49:21,660 --> 02:49:22,800
That's a safe one.

2203
02:49:24,800 --> 02:49:27,160
And if you don't know what it is, he'll read it back to you again.

2204
02:49:27,180 --> 02:49:30,980
But if you feel comfortable, I'll entertain a second if there is one.

2205
02:49:31,880 --> 02:49:34,980
Second by councilmember Lam, in the other discussion,

2206
02:49:35,900 --> 02:49:37,900
They're about to understand what we're voting on.

2207
02:49:38,360 --> 02:49:40,340
So just because I don't understand.

2208
02:49:40,720 --> 02:49:43,180
Is this covering also employees of the city

2209
02:49:43,180 --> 02:49:45,040
and whether or not they need to be vaccinated?

2210
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:46,880
That's the next one.

2211
02:49:47,140 --> 02:49:48,800
Okay, if we want to add that to the agenda,

2212
02:49:49,080 --> 02:49:51,480
this item will be to the agenda has to do with it.

2213
02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:52,200
Just the mask movement.

2214
02:49:52,200 --> 02:49:52,900
The mask mandate.

2215
02:49:53,260 --> 02:49:53,920
Okay, perfect.

2216
02:49:54,780 --> 02:49:55,180
All right.

2217
02:49:55,640 --> 02:49:56,460
Roll call vote.

2218
02:49:56,740 --> 02:49:57,640
Council member Ross.

2219
02:49:58,360 --> 02:49:58,380
Yes.

2220
02:49:58,400 --> 02:49:59,320
Council member Lam.

2221
02:49:59,860 --> 02:49:59,940
Yes.

2222
02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:01,040
Council member Carnivali.

2223
02:50:01,060 --> 02:50:01,660
All right.

2224
02:50:01,760 --> 02:50:03,260
Mayor Potem Gutierrez.

2225
02:50:03,260 --> 02:50:03,700
Yes.

2226
02:50:03,700 --> 02:50:04,260
Mayor Gregory.

2227
02:50:04,260 --> 02:50:13,180
Yes. All right. I would also like to entertain if the council wishes that we discuss

2228
02:50:14,200 --> 02:50:19,260
requiring either proof of vaccination or a test.

2229
02:50:20,560 --> 02:50:26,940
And we can discuss how recent that test needs to be at bars and restaurants and large events.

2230
02:50:29,250 --> 02:50:32,150
So I'll make a motion that we add that discussion to the agenda.

2231
02:50:33,350 --> 02:50:34,370
I'll second.

2232
02:50:34,390 --> 02:50:36,210
Second, by Councilmember Carnivali.

2233
02:50:36,770 --> 02:50:39,090
Any discussion about just adding it to the agenda?

2234
02:50:40,530 --> 02:50:41,150
Roll, call vote.

2235
02:50:42,070 --> 02:50:42,910
Councilmember Ross?

2236
02:50:43,150 --> 02:50:43,270
Yes.

2237
02:50:43,730 --> 02:50:44,290
Councilmember Lam?

2238
02:50:44,910 --> 02:50:44,930
Yes.

2239
02:50:45,150 --> 02:50:46,070
Councilmember Carnivali?

2240
02:50:46,910 --> 02:50:48,050
Mayor Potem Gutierrez?

2241
02:50:48,050 --> 02:50:48,410
Yes.

2242
02:50:48,410 --> 02:50:49,210
Mayor Greg Green.

2243
02:50:49,290 --> 02:50:49,670
Yes.

2244
02:50:50,190 --> 02:50:50,510
All right.

2245
02:50:50,610 --> 02:50:55,770
So we've had an item to the agenda to potentially require a proof of vaccination

2246
02:50:56,550 --> 02:51:01,210
or a COVID-19 COVID test for people to

2247
02:51:01,210 --> 02:51:06,970
to visit our bars and restaurants or any large events.

2248
02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:08,510
Comments.

2249
02:51:09,910 --> 02:51:11,890
Or should we go to public comments first?

2250
02:51:14,620 --> 02:51:16,040
All right, we'll take public comments.

2251
02:51:16,800 --> 02:51:19,680
All right, members of the public, hopefully understand what we've just added, but we're now

2252
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:24,560
discussing if you have joined us at our Zoom meeting in a U.S. to make a comment on this.

2253
02:51:24,840 --> 02:51:28,820
If you would please use the raise hand feature on your device or dial star 9 if you joined

2254
02:51:28,820 --> 02:51:29,500
us by telephone.

2255
02:51:29,500 --> 02:51:32,540
If you're here in the room and you would like to make comment,

2256
02:51:32,620 --> 02:51:38,620
hopefully you can fill out a comment card, or at least wave to the city clerk so she knows you wish to make comment.

2257
02:51:39,020 --> 02:51:39,540
City clerk.

2258
02:51:40,740 --> 02:51:43,160
We have one hand raised and this is Danny Lee.

2259
02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:44,560
All right.

2260
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:48,990
Thank you.

2261
02:51:49,270 --> 02:51:49,410
Yeah.

2262
02:51:51,510 --> 02:51:57,450
On the issue of vaccination, I think it's an important issue to remember here.

2263
02:51:58,010 --> 02:52:00,690
It's prompted by a comment I heard earlier.

2264
02:52:01,630 --> 02:52:10,570
really, if a cancer patient decides to discontinue treatment, they will die, but that's their

2265
02:52:10,570 --> 02:52:17,110
decision and it only affects them. If someone infected with COVID walks into a restaurant

2266
02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:24,810
and breathes on other people, he would potentially kill them. This is the big difference between

2267
02:52:24,810 --> 02:52:34,670
the civic responsibility for vaccination and everybody, and the choice of power over our own

2268
02:52:34,670 --> 02:52:41,950
personal medical decisions. These are not equivalent, and unfortunately the press continues

2269
02:52:41,950 --> 02:52:48,130
to confuse those two issues. We all need to get the vaccination, or we have proof that

2270
02:52:48,130 --> 02:52:55,290
got the vaccination because it's protecting other people, and that is the same reason that

2271
02:52:55,290 --> 02:53:02,590
we had for putting typhoid Mary in a locked cell for the rest of our life because she refused

2272
02:53:02,590 --> 02:53:10,470
to stop interacting with others and passing on the disease. So I am well for requiring proof

2273
02:53:10,470 --> 02:53:16,610
of vaccination in bars and restaurants. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker.

2274
02:53:18,130 --> 02:53:20,510
I want to follow what would like to speak.

2275
02:53:22,840 --> 02:53:23,440
Welcome, Mr. Governor.

2276
02:53:23,440 --> 02:53:26,380
Yeah, and I thank you very much for moving this forward.

2277
02:53:26,840 --> 02:53:28,160
I agree with the previous caller.

2278
02:53:28,480 --> 02:53:29,260
It's super important.

2279
02:53:29,840 --> 02:53:32,980
If we actually do the right thing, this could be over a lot sooner.

2280
02:53:33,300 --> 02:53:36,240
And businesses would open just the way they normally do.

2281
02:53:36,640 --> 02:53:40,120
We just have to take this one step at a time and do the right thing.

2282
02:53:40,360 --> 02:53:42,140
Public safety over businesses.

2283
02:53:42,800 --> 02:53:45,700
Always, always people are more important than anything else.

2284
02:53:45,920 --> 02:53:46,640
Thank you very much.

2285
02:53:48,380 --> 02:53:48,940
Thank you.

2286
02:53:48,940 --> 02:53:57,260
your comment next speaker and I need this comment. Okay, the next speaker is Denise Cross.

2287
02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:10,180
Thank you. I love a type like Mary Brefford. That was perfect. Actually, I believe we're all

2288
02:54:10,180 --> 02:54:19,380
spreaders. We're vaccinated. We don't get as sick. We can still spread. And so the whole point is just

2289
02:54:19,380 --> 02:54:25,280
keep going. Push the vaccination. That's what we need to get to for those who can receive

2290
02:54:25,280 --> 02:54:37,590
And we protect the people that don't have that protection, which is birth to 11 or anybody who chooses that.

2291
02:54:38,240 --> 02:54:40,100
That's who we're going this far.

2292
02:54:40,240 --> 02:54:56,320
I believe today, Governor Nism has mandated that all teachers be vaccinated and all staff in all schools by October 30.

2293
02:54:56,320 --> 02:55:00,320
that I misunderstand what he said.

2294
02:55:01,440 --> 02:55:01,640
It's true.

2295
02:55:01,740 --> 02:55:04,000
Councilwoman Lam, you might know better than I.

2296
02:55:04,280 --> 02:55:07,320
But I saw that on actually one of the cable

2297
02:55:07,320 --> 02:55:09,920
administrations, which is a great step.

2298
02:55:10,300 --> 02:55:14,220
And this state is, we were the first state to shut down.

2299
02:55:14,820 --> 02:55:18,360
And I'm very proud of some of the things

2300
02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:20,680
that the state of California has done.

2301
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:23,560
It doesn't seem to do us good in certain counties

2302
02:55:23,560 --> 02:55:30,580
because out here we're an international resort and we just have so many incoming

2303
02:55:30,580 --> 02:55:36,220
that we need to protect our area and there's no doubt about that. So I just

2304
02:55:36,220 --> 02:55:43,080
cheer you on on everything. As extreme as you want to go and do what you do. I

2305
02:55:43,080 --> 02:55:50,560
appreciate it. Thank you. Next speaker. The next speaker is Bob Oda.

2306
02:55:55,160 --> 02:55:57,000
Hi. I support this

2307
02:55:57,000 --> 02:56:06,220
particular proposal also, the bars and restaurants on arenas in Palm Springs decided to

2308
02:56:06,220 --> 02:56:12,180
do this on their own, before the city council even acted, and the initial response from

2309
02:56:12,180 --> 02:56:20,160
her community that frequent those businesses was, yes, will now feel more confident in,

2310
02:56:20,880 --> 02:56:28,140
knowing that we don't have unvaccinated visitors from outside, coming in and spreading the virus.

2311
02:56:28,620 --> 02:56:31,560
Yes, being vaccinated, we still can get a breakthrough case.

2312
02:56:32,780 --> 02:56:36,960
But the more you're vaccinated people, the less risk you have,

2313
02:56:37,300 --> 02:56:43,300
and it just reassures that we're going to try to put a stop to the virus spreading.

2314
02:56:43,580 --> 02:56:44,880
So I agree with this.

2315
02:56:45,300 --> 02:56:46,180
Thank you.

2316
02:56:46,660 --> 02:56:47,360
Thank you.

2317
02:56:47,360 --> 02:56:49,240
Any additional speakers?

2318
02:56:50,600 --> 02:56:54,840
I see no other hands raised at this time and the

2319
02:56:54,840 --> 02:56:56,820
hands raised within the council chamber.

2320
02:56:57,080 --> 02:56:57,240
All right.

2321
02:56:57,440 --> 02:56:58,980
We'll turn the matter back to council.

2322
02:56:59,360 --> 02:57:00,560
Council member Ross.

2323
02:57:00,940 --> 02:57:06,400
I just wondered how council felt about a time frame to implement

2324
02:57:06,400 --> 02:57:09,380
if we proceed with this.

2325
02:57:09,640 --> 02:57:11,600
One week, two weeks, three weeks.

2326
02:57:11,920 --> 02:57:12,860
So I can do it.

2327
02:57:12,860 --> 02:57:13,880
Do you have a suggestion?

2328
02:57:16,180 --> 02:57:25,620
I think two is enough, but if three feels better, I think it's September 30th, not three weeks.

2329
02:57:28,570 --> 02:57:31,290
So is your proposal that you'd like to consider three weeks?

2330
02:57:32,130 --> 02:57:34,110
No more than.

2331
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:35,170
All right.

2332
02:57:35,370 --> 02:57:36,030
Any other speakers?

2333
02:57:37,070 --> 02:57:37,970
Anyone else want to speak?

2334
02:57:38,950 --> 02:57:40,030
I have a pro-Tem Gutierrez.

2335
02:57:40,190 --> 02:57:41,070
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2336
02:57:42,070 --> 02:57:52,370
Definitely, this pandemic COVID-19 is definitely a bad, you can say, disease or pandemic.

2337
02:57:53,710 --> 02:57:55,490
But so, so is the common cold.

2338
02:57:56,350 --> 02:58:03,590
We know that's a lot of these debts that have been added or contributed to COVID are not

2339
02:58:03,590 --> 02:58:03,870
true.

2340
02:58:03,930 --> 02:58:04,630
They're false.

2341
02:58:04,930 --> 02:58:05,610
They're false.

2342
02:58:07,050 --> 02:58:09,630
450,000 or more than half a million people that have died.

2343
02:58:09,630 --> 02:58:17,130
Some people did some person died that was killed from a shark attack, and he was listed as COVID.

2344
02:58:17,930 --> 02:58:23,450
My secretary's relative died of a heart attack here in Riverside County.

2345
02:58:24,030 --> 02:58:26,130
He was registered that he died of COVID.

2346
02:58:26,850 --> 02:58:32,930
There's been numerous amounts of people that have been misrepresented as to their death.

2347
02:58:32,930 --> 02:58:39,790
it is not true, it is not as deadly as the media says it is.

2348
02:58:40,190 --> 02:58:44,770
The amount of people that died with polio or any other disease, I agree with.

2349
02:58:45,130 --> 02:58:52,770
This is a bad thing, a lot of people have died, I wish they didn't, but a very, very small

2350
02:58:52,770 --> 02:58:58,050
percentage of the people do die, just like they do with a common cold.

2351
02:58:58,050 --> 02:59:03,050
I do not agree with mandating people to get vaccinated.

2352
02:59:04,370 --> 02:59:07,970
It's up to them to get vaccinated, which should not mandate them.

2353
02:59:08,250 --> 02:59:11,730
I got vaccinated, no one told me to do it. I did it on my own.

2354
02:59:12,510 --> 02:59:15,650
So, therefore, I do not want to force people to do it.

2355
02:59:16,250 --> 02:59:21,590
Now, as far as I talked about it just recently,

2356
02:59:22,670 --> 02:59:29,870
A test is as good as the minute you took that test that you're not contagious.

2357
02:59:31,450 --> 02:59:35,410
A minute or two later, you walk out of there, that test is no longer good.

2358
02:59:36,350 --> 02:59:40,390
So what does it do to actually do those two things?

2359
02:59:41,350 --> 02:59:46,510
Now, the case on the 12, I'm not eligible to give vaccinated.

2360
02:59:47,590 --> 02:59:50,410
Are they not going to be allowed to attend a restaurant?

2361
02:59:52,050 --> 02:59:54,210
I don't see how this is going to work.

2362
02:59:54,850 --> 02:59:59,390
Now, I do not want to step over our boundaries and take people.

2363
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,460
Members, right from being out and about, and their liberties away. This is not right. I don't think we should

2364
03:00:08,460 --> 03:00:14,060
be talking about this issue. I agree with a mask. I think we can do that. But I don't think we should

2365
03:00:14,060 --> 03:00:20,520
be over stepping up boundaries. And I think that forcing people to show a proof of vaccine,

2366
03:00:21,400 --> 03:00:28,160
which I can come up with a fake one and show it to people, or I can come up with a fake, also

2367
03:00:28,160 --> 03:00:30,720
with a fake test that I'm negative.

2368
03:00:31,860 --> 03:00:34,020
Now, who's going to police this as well?

2369
03:00:34,800 --> 03:00:36,280
I just don't agree with this.

2370
03:00:36,320 --> 03:00:40,300
I think the media is over exaggerating on this.

2371
03:00:40,520 --> 03:00:43,660
And I think the mass mandates are good enough.

2372
03:00:44,440 --> 03:00:47,120
And that's all I have to say to Mr. Mayor.

2373
03:00:47,160 --> 03:00:47,940
Thank you.

2374
03:00:48,100 --> 03:00:50,040
Thank you.

2375
03:00:50,320 --> 03:00:51,080
Other comments?

2376
03:00:51,540 --> 03:00:52,800
Well, the question is raised.

2377
03:00:54,820 --> 03:00:56,600
If we did do this, what would we propose

2378
03:00:56,600 --> 03:01:04,860
would be the length of time that a negative test is good for us for someone who is unvaccinated.

2379
03:01:05,560 --> 03:01:10,480
Do we have any feedback on what the city of Palm Springs suggested?

2380
03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:16,640
Mayor, I don't know specifically about Palm Springs, but I've read a number of the reports

2381
03:01:16,640 --> 03:01:21,800
of cities and the state who put this in in the most common one that I see as a negative

2382
03:01:21,800 --> 03:01:24,400
test within 72 hours.

2383
03:01:26,610 --> 03:01:28,530
Yes, I've seen that too.

2384
03:01:28,830 --> 03:01:29,830
Council member Ross.

2385
03:01:30,870 --> 03:01:34,990
I have great respect for my fellow council member Gutierrez,

2386
03:01:35,290 --> 03:01:37,970
but there are two things he has said that I take exception with.

2387
03:01:38,370 --> 03:01:41,990
One is that you are not a spreader, the minute you catch COVID.

2388
03:01:42,510 --> 03:01:45,030
You are not a spreader for approximately three to four days,

2389
03:01:45,350 --> 03:01:46,110
based on the CDC.

2390
03:01:46,410 --> 03:01:47,770
I just looked at it while we were talking.

2391
03:01:50,990 --> 03:01:56,150
And secondly, I think I have personally never known anybody who died

2392
03:01:57,490 --> 03:02:03,670
I've never known anybody, but I know people who have died of COVID and I read about people every day who have died of COVID.

2393
03:02:03,990 --> 03:02:07,910
If people were dying by the thousands of the common cold, it would be in the newspaper.

2394
03:02:08,530 --> 03:02:10,950
We would hear about it because that would be a pandemic.

2395
03:02:11,130 --> 03:02:12,810
The cold would then be a pandemic.

2396
03:02:13,850 --> 03:02:20,630
And I have to take exception with that because my personal experience is not, is that it's not born.

2397
03:02:20,630 --> 03:02:20,630
All

2398
03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:27,600
right, so yeah, I'm also kind of surprised

2399
03:02:27,600 --> 03:02:30,500
at some of the comments Mayor Pro Tem,

2400
03:02:30,500 --> 03:02:33,240
not trying to direct anything, but we have been talking

2401
03:02:33,240 --> 03:02:38,080
about how serious COVID is and how important it is

2402
03:02:38,080 --> 03:02:42,340
for the safety of the community, yet there is definitely

2403
03:02:42,340 --> 03:02:45,660
a change of tone and your arguments here,

2404
03:02:45,800 --> 03:02:50,260
because now all of a sudden it's not that deadly

2405
03:02:50,260 --> 03:02:53,010
And it's been over exaggerated according to you.

2406
03:02:54,820 --> 03:02:59,960
And I don't understand where that logic comes from.

2407
03:03:00,200 --> 03:03:02,400
If that's the way that you honestly feel,

2408
03:03:02,560 --> 03:03:05,380
I don't understand some of the previous discussion,

2409
03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:12,280
because it is, in my opinion, and I think it's clearly

2410
03:03:12,280 --> 03:03:14,540
going out in the science that it certainly

2411
03:03:14,540 --> 03:03:23,380
is a pandemic that, of deadly proportions, much more serious than some of the other things

2412
03:03:23,380 --> 03:03:30,060
you mentioned, and I don't know where the misreporting, I'm sure there are probably times

2413
03:03:30,060 --> 03:03:34,200
where there's a comorbidity, we're COVID, and something else killed somebody, but I don't

2414
03:03:34,200 --> 03:03:36,800
really know what that has to do with the discussion.

2415
03:03:37,640 --> 03:03:42,380
Also, we're going right here to the point of saying, well, I don't think we should require

2416
03:03:42,380 --> 03:03:48,900
people to be vaccinated, but the item we're discussing would be whether we have a requirement

2417
03:03:48,900 --> 03:03:58,240
that people that go into bars and restaurants or participate in large events, whether they

2418
03:03:58,240 --> 03:04:06,820
have to show proof of vaccination or a negative test within a reasonable period of time, which

2419
03:04:06,820 --> 03:04:13,100
has been suggested to be 72 hours, but that's not requiring people to be vaccinated.

2420
03:04:13,460 --> 03:04:18,300
That's giving them alternatives to ensure the safety of others.

2421
03:04:19,520 --> 03:04:24,080
So I think that this is a surprising argument.

2422
03:04:24,220 --> 03:04:29,880
And if that's not a proof of vaccination for food to go or carry out, great, that only the

2423
03:04:29,880 --> 03:04:30,320
in-house?

2424
03:04:32,270 --> 03:04:41,080
I think it's to, it's to, well, it would be how you word it, but you, it would depend on how you

2425
03:04:41,080 --> 03:04:46,680
word it, I guess, but, I mean, the intent is that you're not signing inside because you'd

2426
03:04:46,680 --> 03:04:50,980
be taking the mass right. So I think maybe you could, that would be, for in-house dining, that

2427
03:04:50,980 --> 03:04:55,280
so nation proof. So if they came in and just, or keeping the mass gone and just picking

2428
03:04:55,280 --> 03:05:00,380
up a bag, right. Yeah, many restaurants don't require them to come in, they can call

2429
03:05:00,380 --> 03:05:02,160
and go out, they don't think we're gonna do that.

2430
03:05:02,540 --> 03:05:05,060
Okay, you know, we could craft an exception for that.

2431
03:05:05,360 --> 03:05:06,660
And I don't have my little-

2432
03:05:06,660 --> 03:05:07,920
So now I'll remember land.

2433
03:05:08,260 --> 03:05:10,360
I just wanna, I've done to say that, you know,

2434
03:05:10,440 --> 03:05:12,620
the McAllem Theater and CV Repertory,

2435
03:05:12,780 --> 03:05:16,320
they're having proof of vaccination requirements for people

2436
03:05:16,320 --> 03:05:19,860
because that has a lot of people

2437
03:05:19,860 --> 03:05:21,860
that are attracted to life theater

2438
03:05:21,860 --> 03:05:23,200
and they wanna be safe.

2439
03:05:23,960 --> 03:05:26,820
So they want that community protected

2440
03:05:26,820 --> 03:05:28,280
and that's their business model.

2441
03:05:28,280 --> 03:05:35,360
And I think a business model where the communities protected is a great one, so thank you.

2442
03:05:35,580 --> 03:05:35,860
Thank you.

2443
03:05:36,360 --> 03:05:37,420
I can't mute it.

2444
03:05:39,760 --> 03:05:40,200
All right.

2445
03:05:40,500 --> 03:05:43,900
So we have this item in front of us, but we don't have since it's an item added.

2446
03:05:43,920 --> 03:05:46,520
I don't have any proposed language.

2447
03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:48,760
So.

2448
03:05:50,400 --> 03:05:58,080
I think Mayor, we can we can develop language around whatever points that you all want to put in it.

2449
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:05,900
And then, you know, we can, especially if you have a effective date three weeks out or something like that,

2450
03:06:05,960 --> 03:06:18,620
you'll have another meeting before then so that we could actually put the language on there and make sure that that is consistent with what you've suggested if that's the way you decide to go.

2451
03:06:19,380 --> 03:06:23,500
And Mary, do you think we should give some thought to whether it's just bars and restaurants?

2452
03:06:23,820 --> 03:06:31,080
I mean, what we're trying to get at is low cows, where people are going to be in close conduct,

2453
03:06:32,020 --> 03:06:40,800
and might have a higher risk of not socially distancing and either transmitted or receive it.

2454
03:06:40,800 --> 03:06:48,600
I don't know if that's Jim's spa's, at one point in time, that there was a whole...

2455
03:06:48,600 --> 03:06:51,640
running it up, but our previous order would cover all those areas.

2456
03:06:51,840 --> 03:06:55,120
The difference here is you take off your mask to drink and eat.

2457
03:06:55,880 --> 03:06:57,600
I think that's the difference here.

2458
03:06:59,040 --> 03:07:01,260
That's good, rational.

2459
03:07:06,740 --> 03:07:09,600
I don't have a legal answer to that, I just wanted to make it.

2460
03:07:10,100 --> 03:07:10,940
I understand what you're saying.

2461
03:07:12,200 --> 03:07:18,940
But those areas from our previous order have to wear a mask all the time anyways.

2462
03:07:18,940 --> 03:07:23,620
So, the reason we're now looking at proof of vaccination, I think, for bars and restaurants,

2463
03:07:25,000 --> 03:07:28,760
at least that's what I'm taking from the discussion is because you have to remove your mask.

2464
03:07:30,080 --> 03:07:32,200
They don't follow the mask on me.

2465
03:07:32,480 --> 03:07:34,340
Well, they're eating, right? There are some requirements.

2466
03:07:35,680 --> 03:07:42,600
All right, so I would propose, I guess I would make a motion, that we direct the city manager

2467
03:07:42,600 --> 03:07:54,380
to prepare an order requiring persons, eating or drinking inside of bars and restaurants.

2468
03:07:56,660 --> 03:08:04,370
Show proof of vaccination are a negative COVID test within 72 hours with exceptions for

2469
03:08:04,370 --> 03:08:11,690
children under 12 medical exceptions and other generally recognized exceptions and

2470
03:08:14,090 --> 03:08:14,450
it would

2471
03:08:14,450 --> 03:08:27,660
not cover people entering the facility for the purpose of retrieving an order to go order that

2472
03:08:27,660 --> 03:08:31,540
doesn't remove their mask in doing so.

2473
03:08:31,540 --> 03:08:32,820
Not dining in premises.

2474
03:08:35,040 --> 03:08:44,280
And that this go in the effects three weeks and three weeks, although businesses may implement

2475
03:08:44,280 --> 03:08:46,620
So that's

2476
03:08:49,020 --> 03:08:49,720
my motion.

2477
03:08:50,360 --> 03:08:50,760
Is that adequate?

2478
03:08:51,020 --> 03:08:52,600
Mr. City Attorney, do you believe?

2479
03:08:54,940 --> 03:08:55,220
Yes.

2480
03:08:56,740 --> 03:09:01,720
My initial thought is you're going to want anyone who enters the premises.

2481
03:09:02,420 --> 03:09:04,600
Other than pick up pickup food.

2482
03:09:04,800 --> 03:09:04,940
Yes.

2483
03:09:05,620 --> 03:09:07,140
Anyone, including employees.

2484
03:09:10,420 --> 03:09:13,260
Well, they're people entering the bar restaurant.

2485
03:09:15,310 --> 03:09:16,130
So what now?

2486
03:09:18,240 --> 03:09:26,000
Yeah, your phrasing was anybody entering the premises to eat or drink.

2487
03:09:26,020 --> 03:09:26,600
You're correct.

2488
03:09:26,880 --> 03:09:32,000
So I should be anyone entering with the one exception of people, including employees,

2489
03:09:32,580 --> 03:09:37,440
with the one exception of people entering to pick up some type of a code to go item and

2490
03:09:37,440 --> 03:09:38,720
doesn't otherwise remove their mask.

2491
03:09:38,920 --> 03:09:43,480
The practical problem with that is if you go to a bar or a restaurant, especially a bar,

2492
03:09:43,680 --> 03:09:48,220
all you have to say to get in the door as I'm just here to dance or listen to music.

2493
03:09:48,220 --> 03:09:49,980
I'm not going to either drink.

2494
03:09:50,140 --> 03:09:51,080
Just here, Mike.

2495
03:09:51,100 --> 03:09:51,340
Right.

2496
03:09:51,560 --> 03:09:52,580
So I think you're correct.

2497
03:09:52,800 --> 03:09:55,000
The language should be entering, but with the exception.

2498
03:09:55,720 --> 03:09:58,680
But they could still go in and then take off the masculinity and drink.

2499
03:10:01,430 --> 03:10:04,750
So the way I would phrase that is anyone who's going to enter the premises,

2500
03:10:06,010 --> 03:10:09,630
has to either show proof of vaccination or the test.

2501
03:10:12,170 --> 03:10:12,370
All right.

2502
03:10:12,490 --> 03:10:13,870
Does that give you any heartache?

2503
03:10:13,870 --> 03:10:14,950
Council member Carnivali?

2504
03:10:15,990 --> 03:10:19,770
That might require a restaurant to make some other provision for people that are not vaccinated.

2505
03:10:19,770 --> 03:10:24,470
I don't want to show proof, but need to pick up, they might have to meet them at the door.

2506
03:10:25,370 --> 03:10:27,650
The only thing I can think of is, it's delivery.

2507
03:10:28,350 --> 03:10:29,530
If that's a problem with delivery.

2508
03:10:30,770 --> 03:10:31,770
Well, you would hope it's delivery.

2509
03:10:32,590 --> 03:10:33,650
It's going to be back soon.

2510
03:10:33,730 --> 03:10:34,510
I don't know.

2511
03:10:34,850 --> 03:10:35,190
I don't know.

2512
03:10:35,690 --> 03:10:36,870
I'm not just throwing that up.

2513
03:10:36,910 --> 03:10:39,190
I don't know if that's a problem with delivery or not.

2514
03:10:41,590 --> 03:10:42,570
So let me restate.

2515
03:10:42,990 --> 03:10:43,050
All right.

2516
03:10:43,390 --> 03:10:48,850
So my motion is to require anyone entering a bar or a strut.

2517
03:10:53,330 --> 03:10:58,250
They show proof of vaccination or a negative coat of tests within 72 hours,

2518
03:11:00,630 --> 03:11:06,110
with exceptions for children under 12 medical exceptions and other generally recognized exceptions.

2519
03:11:07,290 --> 03:11:12,250
And if this go into effect in three weeks, although businesses have the option of...

2520
03:11:12,250 --> 03:11:15,030
That's what they want to dine in. You just said enter.

2521
03:11:16,350 --> 03:11:18,710
The city attorney said we should make it anyone entering.

2522
03:11:22,730 --> 03:11:26,690
because otherwise they'll enter and then they may.

2523
03:11:26,750 --> 03:11:29,710
So that would cover employees, I think, is why they said that.

2524
03:11:34,120 --> 03:11:34,320
Correct.

2525
03:11:35,320 --> 03:11:36,980
But it comes to you.

2526
03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:38,580
That's why I said it makes you clear.

2527
03:11:38,960 --> 03:11:42,360
Businesses to modify if they allow people to come up to the

2528
03:11:42,360 --> 03:11:43,760
different things to pick up their food.

2529
03:11:43,860 --> 03:11:45,660
They may have to meet them at the door.

2530
03:11:46,720 --> 03:11:50,000
Just come to the door and then say, hey, we've got to pick up item here

2531
03:11:50,000 --> 03:11:52,500
and somebody has to go and do the transaction there.

2532
03:11:52,500 --> 03:11:52,880
the door.

2533
03:11:57,940 --> 03:12:03,000
So that's the motion. There you have a second.

2534
03:12:06,130 --> 03:12:07,750
Second by council member

2535
03:12:07,750 --> 03:12:12,970
Lam, further discussion or clarification. Is everyone clear on what the motion is?

2536
03:12:14,340 --> 03:12:19,560
Roll call vote. Council member Ross. Yes. Council member Lam. Yes. Council member

2537
03:12:19,560 --> 03:12:25,500
Carnivali. Mayor Protem Gutierrez. No. Mayor Gregory. Yes.

2538
03:12:30,080 --> 03:12:30,560
All right. So

2539
03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:33,620
So let me back up a little bit.

2540
03:12:33,800 --> 03:12:38,280
There was discussion about the city hall closing and having meetings online.

2541
03:12:38,800 --> 03:12:41,060
That didn't require a council vote last time.

2542
03:12:41,780 --> 03:12:44,080
No, I just implemented that last time.

2543
03:12:44,200 --> 03:12:45,960
I just wanted you to be aware of that.

2544
03:12:46,340 --> 03:12:47,380
What I intend to do.

2545
03:12:47,860 --> 03:12:47,880
Yeah.

2546
03:12:47,880 --> 03:12:48,960
Good, and I'll cross that one off.

2547
03:12:49,020 --> 03:12:52,060
So the last one, if we decide we want to approach it tonight,

2548
03:12:52,400 --> 03:12:54,400
or at least if we want to approach it in the future,

2549
03:12:54,400 --> 03:13:03,700
There is requiring proof of negative vaccination or a negative COVID test within 72 hours of city employees.

2550
03:13:04,760 --> 03:13:07,920
With kind of mood if the city has to be closed for a while.

2551
03:13:08,260 --> 03:13:11,320
We have many personnel that go to work out at that community.

2552
03:13:17,710 --> 03:13:21,170
So are you going to have employees test every 72 hours?

2553
03:13:21,430 --> 03:13:21,990
Is that what it is?

2554
03:13:22,290 --> 03:13:26,590
They have to provide a negative test that was done within 72 hours on their report to work.

2555
03:13:26,590 --> 03:13:34,970
The other organizations that have done this have required a weekly proof of tests.

2556
03:13:35,250 --> 03:13:36,650
That's really, that could be it.

2557
03:13:36,930 --> 03:13:38,530
Do we want to discuss that item tonight?

2558
03:13:39,950 --> 03:13:43,790
We need the motion to put that on the agenda if we want to.

2559
03:13:44,050 --> 03:13:45,150
Discuss that tonight.

2560
03:13:52,190 --> 03:13:53,530
All right. Well, I'm willing to move it.

2561
03:13:53,830 --> 03:14:01,260
So I move that we discuss tonight whether we want to require proof of vaccination or a negative test.

2562
03:14:01,260 --> 03:14:07,880
test, test within a week for all city employees to work.

2563
03:14:14,860 --> 03:14:16,740
That's being added to the agenda.

2564
03:14:18,760 --> 03:14:22,590
I can't understand what I'm saying.

2565
03:14:22,970 --> 03:14:26,490
Second, by Councilmember Carnivali, and he's a discussion.

2566
03:14:28,930 --> 03:14:29,750
Roll call vote.

2567
03:14:30,190 --> 03:14:31,130
Councilmember Ross.

2568
03:14:31,730 --> 03:14:31,750
Yes.

2569
03:14:31,950 --> 03:14:32,530
Councilmember Lam.

2570
03:14:33,730 --> 03:14:35,030
Councilmember Carnivali.

2571
03:14:40,150 --> 03:14:41,550
Mayor Protem Gutierrez.

2572
03:14:42,530 --> 03:14:43,170
Mayor Gregory.

2573
03:14:43,490 --> 03:14:43,870
Yes.

2574
03:14:44,570 --> 03:14:44,990
All right.

2575
03:14:44,990 --> 03:14:52,730
So we have an item before us to require city employees to show proof of vaccination or

2576
03:14:52,730 --> 03:14:56,650
a negative COVID test within a week in order to work.

2577
03:14:58,590 --> 03:14:59,970
Do we have any public comment on this?

2578
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:22,620
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2579
03:15:23,420 --> 03:15:25,380
Denise Cross would like to speak, Mayor.

2580
03:15:26,560 --> 03:15:27,640
Denise Cross.

2581
03:15:30,300 --> 03:15:31,860
Thank you for being so brave.

2582
03:15:32,700 --> 03:15:34,300
I appreciate that.

2583
03:15:34,620 --> 03:15:40,500
The reasons restaurants have done this as far as employees and nobody who works there who

2584
03:15:40,500 --> 03:15:43,520
is vaccinated is because they don't have staff.

2585
03:15:44,140 --> 03:15:48,480
If somebody gets sick, everybody's exposed and they have to test.

2586
03:15:48,980 --> 03:15:53,020
And then the person that is sick has to quarantine for two weeks.

2587
03:15:53,020 --> 03:15:58,040
The Pentagon, all military, is mandatory vaccination now.

2588
03:15:58,500 --> 03:16:01,200
Our hospitals will run out of staff.

2589
03:16:02,740 --> 03:16:07,800
There won't be enough substitute teachers to replace quarantined sick teachers.

2590
03:16:09,140 --> 03:16:12,600
It's just, you know, it's going to keep generating.

2591
03:16:13,640 --> 03:16:18,640
And I just think we need to face the facts and do everything we can do.

2592
03:16:18,960 --> 03:16:20,940
I'm sorry that it's so difficult.

2593
03:16:20,940 --> 03:16:27,980
life is difficult for me. That's for sure. And it's difficult for all of us. It's really bad times.

2594
03:16:28,720 --> 03:16:35,760
I really appreciate your greatness and doing this and I personally, I think it's extremely

2595
03:16:35,760 --> 03:16:45,060
necessary right now. Kids are in school. Season's going to start. It just needs to be done.

2596
03:16:45,060 --> 03:16:53,520
And I thank you very much for trying to keep people well and safe and, you know, none of us getting sick.

2597
03:16:53,980 --> 03:16:57,880
And those are vaccinated, not getting as sick.

2598
03:16:58,660 --> 03:17:01,380
And hope the best for everything.

2599
03:17:01,400 --> 03:17:05,060
And I really appreciate your bravery in going forward with this.

2600
03:17:05,700 --> 03:17:09,060
And I'm sorry to get further difficulty for all of us.

2601
03:17:10,420 --> 03:17:11,520
All right, thank you for your comments.

2602
03:17:12,320 --> 03:17:12,840
Next speaker.

2603
03:17:12,840 --> 03:17:16,240
All in Kavala would like to speak, Mayor.

2604
03:17:19,210 --> 03:17:22,870
I want to echo what I would like to echo what Denise Cross said.

2605
03:17:22,870 --> 03:17:28,390
It does take bravery, especially for the two businessmen on the council to move this

2606
03:17:28,390 --> 03:17:29,090
forward.

2607
03:17:29,890 --> 03:17:35,010
It really shows true character to do the right thing.

2608
03:17:36,090 --> 03:17:40,610
And in the long run, you know that we'll remember that you made the right decision.

2609
03:17:40,610 --> 03:17:48,650
Also Councilmember Lam, thank you for speaking so articulately about your passion and also Councilmember Ross.

2610
03:17:49,110 --> 03:17:55,910
But I do want to thank everybody for stepping up and making us proud about the city taking people's health into priority.

2611
03:17:56,290 --> 03:17:56,850
Thank you.

2612
03:17:58,230 --> 03:17:58,670
Thank you.

2613
03:17:58,970 --> 03:17:59,330
Next speaker.

2614
03:17:59,770 --> 03:18:01,770
The next speaker is Danny Lee.

2615
03:18:03,130 --> 03:18:04,130
Welcome Danny Lee.

2616
03:18:05,830 --> 03:18:16,450
I could certainly echo the comments of the others on this and it's been hard all around and I know that you're doing what you can in a difficult situation.

2617
03:18:17,430 --> 03:18:29,850
I am a little confused at this point. Only because earlier the city manager said that vaccination status for staff was taken on trust they made a declaration.

2618
03:18:29,850 --> 03:18:39,350
But you've now just passed a measure that says that customers in restaurants and bars must prove vaccination.

2619
03:18:41,110 --> 03:18:51,150
I think it's inconsistent and probably at this point, then you would require that staff actually prove their vaccination status for all they have a test.

2620
03:18:51,550 --> 03:18:53,070
Thank you.

2621
03:18:53,550 --> 03:18:54,170
Thank you.

2622
03:18:56,300 --> 03:18:57,000
Any other speakers?

2623
03:18:57,980 --> 03:19:00,120
I see no other hands raised mayor.

2624
03:19:00,440 --> 03:19:00,560
All right.

2625
03:19:00,740 --> 03:19:02,560
I'm going to return the matter back to council.

2626
03:19:06,010 --> 03:19:06,270
Council.

2627
03:19:07,270 --> 03:19:07,270
So

2628
03:19:09,570 --> 03:19:11,470
the proposal is that we require.

2629
03:19:12,230 --> 03:19:16,230
We haven't talked about when we would require this.

2630
03:19:18,070 --> 03:19:22,310
But we require proof of vaccination or a negative COVID test within a week.

2631
03:19:22,590 --> 03:19:24,690
Of city employees in order for them to work.

2632
03:19:24,690 --> 03:19:43,850
Maybe if I might, there's a, this is a different animal than the other ones, because this involves employees who have collective bargaining rights, and it's fairly well established in the law that we will have to, we don't have to bargain the decision, but we will have to bargain the effects.

2633
03:19:44,490 --> 03:19:52,790
And unless there's a court order or a state order or a county health order that requires

2634
03:19:54,350 --> 03:19:59,650
this, we do it on our own authority, we have to bargain the effects before it goes into effect.

2635
03:19:59,930 --> 03:20:03,130
Now, I will have to rely on Charlie as to how long that might take.

2636
03:20:03,630 --> 03:20:06,830
But there are some questions that we could use your guidance from.

2637
03:20:06,890 --> 03:20:11,350
And I don't know that you even have to adopt an order tonight,

2638
03:20:11,350 --> 03:20:15,670
but you could give us direction along the lines of what you want to consider adopting

2639
03:20:15,670 --> 03:20:18,790
internet, meeting to give some meeting, confer time.

2640
03:20:19,790 --> 03:20:23,290
There will be the question of what is the standard approved?

2641
03:20:23,510 --> 03:20:25,590
Do I have to show a vaccination card?

2642
03:20:26,170 --> 03:20:28,330
Are you going to allow me to self-attest?

2643
03:20:29,850 --> 03:20:32,630
How long of the testing it will be?

2644
03:20:33,090 --> 03:20:35,630
And if I don't have a vaccine,

2645
03:20:36,350 --> 03:20:40,430
I don't have one of the two exceptions.

2646
03:20:41,130 --> 03:20:46,350
I have a recognized disability that keeps me from either masking or getting a vaccine.

2647
03:20:46,910 --> 03:20:55,110
Or I have a sincere religious belief that prohibits or practice that stops me from having a vaccination.

2648
03:20:55,650 --> 03:20:57,090
Do I still have to test?

2649
03:20:57,670 --> 03:21:03,190
And if I refuse to test, does that mean I don't work at all or kind of work off-site?

2650
03:21:03,190 --> 03:21:12,210
So there's a number of things which I think Charlie will need to sit down with the unions and work through, and I don't want to

2651
03:21:12,210 --> 03:21:15,410
stun you your discussions, but I wanted to just put that out there for you and again.

2652
03:21:15,770 --> 03:21:25,530
So if we want to move in that direction, we can give him direction tonight to explore that, but we don't have to come up with all those details.

2653
03:21:25,970 --> 03:21:29,090
I don't think you need to work out all of those details.

2654
03:21:29,090 --> 03:21:34,550
we probably have the large parameter, which as well, we'd like some proof of

2655
03:21:34,550 --> 03:21:39,410
vaccination, or you've got a test. And then, Charlie and I and his staff and

2656
03:21:39,410 --> 03:21:43,710
my staff can work with the unions to work with those details for you.

2657
03:21:44,130 --> 03:21:48,710
And if I might add to that, that's exactly how Palm Springs approach this. I met

2658
03:21:48,710 --> 03:21:53,630
with their city manager last week and they've passed the intent to do that, but

2659
03:21:53,630 --> 03:22:01,650
all the details in terms of the things that Eric mentioned, because they require some working

2660
03:22:01,650 --> 03:22:08,590
with the Employee Associations are deferred until they have a chance to do that.

2661
03:22:09,030 --> 03:22:14,290
And in all practical terms, if a person wants to get that's not vaccinated, wants to

2662
03:22:14,290 --> 03:22:20,770
get fully vaccinated, that's about a six week process by the time you figure shot one

2663
03:22:20,770 --> 03:22:24,990
three week waiting period, shot two, et cetera, so.

2664
03:22:26,210 --> 03:22:30,310
And, you know, so there are plays that, you know, they're working remotely.

2665
03:22:31,810 --> 03:22:37,510
So, that's a consideration, but also, I was just talking to friends of mine who were

2666
03:22:37,510 --> 03:22:40,470
public school employees in the San Fernando Valley.

2667
03:22:41,550 --> 03:22:47,770
And, you know, their idea is that we want to get vaccinated

2668
03:22:47,770 --> 03:22:52,890
because we are public employees, we're paid by the taxpayers, and we are not in a position

2669
03:22:54,930 --> 03:22:57,070
to put their children in harm's way.

2670
03:22:57,390 --> 03:23:02,630
So that was part of the discussion in terms of the different unions with the elected

2671
03:23:02,630 --> 03:23:03,470
bargaining units.

2672
03:23:03,730 --> 03:23:07,810
So anyway, it was very protracted, but this is a good start.

2673
03:23:11,410 --> 03:23:12,070
For the discussion,

2674
03:23:16,180 --> 03:23:20,280
all right, so we have an item that the proposed requiring vaccination

2675
03:23:20,280 --> 03:23:28,540
or at least we could modify that to be our intent is at a future date to set a requirement

2676
03:23:28,540 --> 03:23:31,400
to set how we might make the motions something like that.

2677
03:23:32,700 --> 03:23:38,660
All right, so I make a motion that the council signal that is our intent at a future date and

2678
03:23:38,660 --> 03:23:46,120
start the city manager to take what steps he needs to meet and confer on the effects of requiring

2679
03:23:47,400 --> 03:23:55,300
It codes vaccination or proof of a negative test within a week of all city employees in order to work.

2680
03:23:57,890 --> 03:24:01,430
City attorney does that work as a motion.

2681
03:24:05,950 --> 03:24:09,710
So it would come back for much more discussion and a final vote.

2682
03:24:10,470 --> 03:24:12,950
So it would come back for much more discussion and a final vote.

2683
03:24:14,050 --> 03:24:15,450
Okay, so that's my motion.

2684
03:24:17,010 --> 03:24:17,510
Second.

2685
03:24:17,510 --> 03:24:21,490
You can buy Council Member Carnivaling any further discussion.

2686
03:24:22,310 --> 03:24:23,470
Rolls call vote.

2687
03:24:23,470 --> 03:24:24,550
Council Member Ross.

2688
03:24:25,430 --> 03:24:26,130
Council Member Lam.

2689
03:24:26,890 --> 03:24:27,990
Council Member Carnivaling.

2690
03:24:28,850 --> 03:24:29,990
Mayor Potem Gutierrez.

2691
03:24:30,710 --> 03:24:31,270
Mayor Gregory.

2692
03:24:31,930 --> 03:24:32,090
Yes.

2693
03:24:33,290 --> 03:24:33,570
All right.

2694
03:24:33,750 --> 03:24:37,810
Well, that's the last thing on COVID that I have on my list, is anyone else have anything else

2695
03:24:37,810 --> 03:24:38,850
that they wanted to?

2696
03:24:39,030 --> 03:24:40,110
Just a brief statement.

2697
03:24:40,510 --> 03:24:41,730
It's very difficult.

2698
03:24:42,270 --> 03:24:47,490
I pass a much respect for Council Members Carnivaling and Gutierrez and Mayor Potem

2699
03:24:48,610 --> 03:25:00,630
And in no way would I ever go out of my way, and I don't think any of us would ever hurt you, you know, sort of sort of our council people versus, you know, the community and I just, I just want you to know for sure it was a personal.

2700
03:25:01,010 --> 03:25:01,570
I know.

2701
03:25:02,050 --> 03:25:03,270
And I think that's correct.

2702
03:25:03,510 --> 03:25:06,210
And I hopefully, hopefully you don't take it away.

2703
03:25:06,530 --> 03:25:09,510
And actually, I think that what you're saying on a speaker is our correct.

2704
03:25:10,130 --> 03:25:17,190
that it takes courage to work outside of your comfort zone or outside of what my personally

2705
03:25:17,190 --> 03:25:23,030
cause you some issues by you've shown a commitment for a safety of everyone in the city

2706
03:25:23,030 --> 03:25:28,230
and the best welfare of everyone in the city and so sometimes it's easy to say that and then

2707
03:25:28,230 --> 03:25:31,370
you but you actually show it when you do your job.

2708
03:25:31,550 --> 03:25:35,650
Thank you Councillor Lambert Ross for that but I've been up here for years and I've always

2709
03:25:35,650 --> 03:25:45,250
I said, you know, safety first citizens of Cathedral City always come first and it's great to have a council that even that sometimes we agree to disagree.

2710
03:25:45,890 --> 03:25:50,510
We all agree tonight that this is the best move for Cathedral City and its visitors.

2711
03:25:51,590 --> 03:25:53,110
And as I said earlier, it was inevitable.

2712
03:25:53,850 --> 03:25:57,530
Something's going to happen sooner or later, so better sooner than later.

2713
03:25:59,800 --> 03:26:00,040
Thank you.

2714
03:26:00,160 --> 03:26:04,920
All right, there's nothing else in this item, then we'll go ahead and move to the next item on our agenda, which is close session.

2715
03:26:04,920 --> 03:26:12,020
We don't have a closed session tonight and then we have our new item number nine discussion on future agenda items.

2716
03:26:12,040 --> 03:26:15,420
This is something that we discussed last time. We will be adding to the agenda.

2717
03:26:15,700 --> 03:26:26,220
So just the opportunity, just a reminder, this is opportunity for members of the city council to request that items be added on a future agenda.

2718
03:26:26,480 --> 03:26:31,860
And for the council to discuss whether one or more items should be added to the agenda and to comply with the Brown Act.

2719
03:26:31,860 --> 03:26:36,300
We should limit our discussion just to whether we want to add the item to the future agenda.

2720
03:26:37,600 --> 03:26:38,060
Council.

2721
03:26:45,030 --> 03:26:47,890
The request from Richard Eaton from the vault.

2722
03:26:48,710 --> 03:26:49,970
He did have a good point.

2723
03:26:50,450 --> 03:26:53,990
The cannabis was the only industry that was not subsidized or helped.

2724
03:26:54,210 --> 03:26:56,070
I don't know what we can do if we can do anything.

2725
03:26:56,730 --> 03:27:03,630
Because obviously money is out of the question because everything comes from the

2726
03:27:03,630 --> 03:27:09,790
possibly helping out for a short term, as he mentioned, I think it's worth discussion.

2727
03:27:11,070 --> 03:27:17,870
So I was on an impression that, again, utilizing our advisory groups that when we had

2728
03:27:17,870 --> 03:27:22,090
topics like that, we would refer them to, usually, to the campus task force, for their

2729
03:27:22,090 --> 03:27:25,690
feedback and some research, maybe what other.

2730
03:27:25,970 --> 03:27:27,370
So I'm not against it.

2731
03:27:27,370 --> 03:27:28,210
Well, I'm really confident.

2732
03:27:28,550 --> 03:27:38,730
I think cannabis tests first might take a little bit longer and with this COVID coming up again, I think this would probably be a good time to discuss it

2733
03:27:38,730 --> 03:27:43,950
All right, well, I would that's whatever that's what the council gets it to side. I mean, do you guys you want to

2734
03:27:43,950 --> 03:27:44,930
String on the agenda

2735
03:27:45,570 --> 03:27:46,050
Yeah

2736
03:27:46,050 --> 03:27:47,550
Straight to the agenda

2737
03:27:48,070 --> 03:27:55,610
All right, it sounds like the majority of the items so when when would you because that would take some research to because we don't want that

2738
03:27:55,610 --> 03:27:57,150
I think I think a reasonable

2739
03:27:58,550 --> 03:28:05,270
date would be September 8th, that gives us

2740
03:28:07,670 --> 03:28:14,050
three weeks and all practical terms, because that agenda will have to go out a week before that, of course.

2741
03:28:14,990 --> 03:28:20,130
Given in light with the mayor did say about the cannabis task force, Charlie would it be advisable

2742
03:28:20,130 --> 03:28:25,890
to contact them and tell them that it will be coming up on the agenda and possibly they could have a report.

2743
03:28:25,890 --> 03:28:31,990
Is it Maria that's charged of that or had a bit no I actually chair the cannabis chair. Okay, and

2744
03:28:32,830 --> 03:28:38,830
Our practice has been anything related to that to go to them first, but it's not a it's not a requirement. Of course

2745
03:28:38,830 --> 03:28:41,830
You have the ability to act on things

2746
03:28:42,490 --> 03:28:49,450
Anyway, so it would be it would be a little different than our normal practice, but and I just did some research recently on

2747
03:28:50,570 --> 03:28:54,030
all the taxes charged on the various types of businesses in the

2748
03:28:54,030 --> 03:28:59,850
that Coach Lvalli City, so it'd just be a matter of compiling that, but I do think I

2749
03:28:59,850 --> 03:29:01,890
do think it would be too soon for the next meeting.

2750
03:29:02,530 --> 03:29:03,310
Okay, that's fine.

2751
03:29:03,490 --> 03:29:07,950
And just for full disclosure, the reason he did that was I took a meeting with Maria

2752
03:29:07,950 --> 03:29:15,250
Scagnotti and Rich Eaton about cannabis taxes in my office, they're both in my district

2753
03:29:15,250 --> 03:29:16,910
and they asked for meeting it.

2754
03:29:17,210 --> 03:29:18,370
But nothing was resolved.

2755
03:29:18,710 --> 03:29:20,470
It was just an informational, I listened.

2756
03:29:20,470 --> 03:29:27,830
We're certainly going to need some type of report on the fiscal impact of the city's budget of that.

2757
03:29:27,830 --> 03:29:29,650
I just want to get a no.

2758
03:29:29,970 --> 03:29:31,490
I, you know, that 24th of square percent.

2759
03:29:31,490 --> 03:29:36,530
Yes, and I have information already on what we, what we generate in a typical month.

2760
03:29:37,590 --> 03:29:43,990
Actually, I have four years worth of data, a month by month, and how it varies throughout the year,

2761
03:29:45,490 --> 03:29:49,470
because certain, it's, it's cyclical like many of our businesses are.

2762
03:29:49,470 --> 03:29:49,470
All

2763
03:29:51,840 --> 03:29:59,980
right, all right, any other future agenda items now it's the last last week at the

2764
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:08,960
Our last meeting when we went over the goals, there were two items that had not been set for on the calendar.

2765
03:30:09,340 --> 03:30:17,380
And one of them was the downtown design, and then the other one was the zoning. So have you had a chance to, we have getting calendar this week.

2766
03:30:17,680 --> 03:30:20,460
So did you get a chance to set those on the calendar?

2767
03:30:20,460 --> 03:30:27,640
I have not, I have not supposed yet mayor and I will say that I need a little time on both

2768
03:30:27,640 --> 03:30:35,440
of those because we're supposed to go live on the inner gov software which is in the planning

2769
03:30:35,440 --> 03:30:41,720
zoning and building department on September 8th and I think to expect anything else while

2770
03:30:41,720 --> 03:30:46,880
that and for a short period after that anyway there's going to be everything going to be slower

2771
03:30:46,880 --> 03:30:51,720
because when you install a new product initially, even though the long-term benefits are going

2772
03:30:51,720 --> 03:30:57,820
to be faster service, the initial result is slower service as everybody gets used to that.

2773
03:30:58,340 --> 03:31:02,420
So I would ask to make that in the November timeframe.

2774
03:31:03,760 --> 03:31:07,720
So you're going to, you're going to, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll,

2775
03:31:07,760 --> 03:31:08,460
I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll.

2776
03:31:08,460 --> 03:31:09,560
I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll.

2777
03:31:10,000 --> 03:31:13,840
I think this came up once before, and of course it's up to Council's not just up to me,

2778
03:31:14,380 --> 03:31:16,860
but I had suggested before we talked about downtown and

2779
03:31:16,860 --> 03:31:21,120
aesthetics we might go on a road trip together and look at what some other cities look like

2780
03:31:21,120 --> 03:31:25,780
and pick out our favorites and our least favorites so that we have a basis for understanding.

2781
03:31:26,100 --> 03:31:29,100
But that, you know, that's just, you don't want to hold a council going on a road trip.

2782
03:31:29,340 --> 03:31:31,360
Yeah, we're going on a road trip.

2783
03:31:33,080 --> 03:31:35,800
Yeah, I think there's alternatives to that.

2784
03:31:37,000 --> 03:31:39,140
We'll have to wait until it's safe to be in a vehicle.

2785
03:31:39,860 --> 03:31:41,000
That's why I'm saying that.

2786
03:31:41,240 --> 03:31:41,860
But you know, some day.

2787
03:31:41,960 --> 03:31:43,140
It's just Paris.

2788
03:31:46,440 --> 03:31:56,300
So I don't know if this is really a future agenda, but there was a question about the meeting that's scheduled on the same week as the League of California cities.

2789
03:31:57,080 --> 03:31:59,220
And I don't know if that ever got resolved.

2790
03:32:00,020 --> 03:32:04,940
And I know we ended up we just have one member going, but she is a vital part of her council.

2791
03:32:06,120 --> 03:32:10,360
So that is September 22nd that's affected by that.

2792
03:32:10,940 --> 03:32:17,460
Right, so there's also affected my other organization that meets on that day, and they rightfully

2793
03:32:17,460 --> 03:32:22,720
noted out that September was a month that had five Wednesdays, and you could just easily

2794
03:32:22,720 --> 03:32:26,880
push it over to the next Wednesday, and then you would still have it two week break between

2795
03:32:26,880 --> 03:32:32,220
that and the next meeting, and where you would end up having the extra week would be between

2796
03:32:32,220 --> 03:32:34,480
the eight, and then that subsequent meeting.

2797
03:32:34,720 --> 03:32:37,940
So is there some reason why we're not looking at the 29th?

2798
03:32:37,940 --> 03:32:39,380
I think that's a great idea.

2799
03:32:40,600 --> 03:32:42,900
Is there a one, what is on your calendar for the 29th?

2800
03:32:42,980 --> 03:32:44,940
So you understand we would have a meeting September 8th,

2801
03:32:45,700 --> 03:32:47,280
and then instead of meeting on the 22nd,

2802
03:32:47,380 --> 03:32:48,940
we would just push it to the 29th,

2803
03:32:50,040 --> 03:32:52,800
because that's when the league of September.

2804
03:32:53,860 --> 03:32:55,060
And then you would still have two weeks

2805
03:32:55,060 --> 03:32:57,320
because the next one would be to October 13th.

2806
03:32:57,940 --> 03:32:58,840
And I'm saying two weeks,

2807
03:32:59,260 --> 03:33:01,640
we might have some special meetings in the 28th.

2808
03:33:02,440 --> 03:33:04,140
Yeah, and the only thing that would affect

2809
03:33:04,140 --> 03:33:06,960
is if we had an ordinance that was up for second reading,

2810
03:33:06,960 --> 03:33:08,700
and you can't do that at a special meeting

2811
03:33:08,700 --> 03:33:10,280
and putting it on your other night,

2812
03:33:10,340 --> 03:33:11,720
I think makes it a special meeting.

2813
03:33:13,380 --> 03:33:15,780
But potentially, that's the mayoral rotation ordinance,

2814
03:33:16,000 --> 03:33:17,400
because I think we are planning on having it

2815
03:33:17,400 --> 03:33:20,080
on the agenda for first reading on September 8th.

2816
03:33:20,360 --> 03:33:22,960
Yes, except that the council can adjourn

2817
03:33:22,960 --> 03:33:24,800
the regular meeting of September

2818
03:33:24,800 --> 03:33:26,200
any time they want to,

2819
03:33:26,320 --> 03:33:27,340
and it's still a regular meeting.

2820
03:33:27,440 --> 03:33:28,560
Okay, well then that's the way to do it.

2821
03:33:28,560 --> 03:33:29,820
We would just remember on the 8th,

2822
03:33:29,860 --> 03:33:32,940
we would just read a direct to our meeting on the 29th.

2823
03:33:33,260 --> 03:33:36,180
So, we'll get in the 29th.

2824
03:33:36,180 --> 03:33:37,620
and set of the 22nd.

2825
03:33:38,300 --> 03:33:41,100
Yeah, on the 14th, you would just adjourn to the 29th.

2826
03:33:43,560 --> 03:33:45,220
Actually, the 8th.

2827
03:33:45,220 --> 03:33:47,000
It would be the 8th, right?

2828
03:33:47,440 --> 03:33:49,380
The 8th and the 29th.

2829
03:33:49,520 --> 03:33:50,800
Right, right.

2830
03:33:51,900 --> 03:33:53,760
Okay, the 18th is the 29th, the 7th.

2831
03:33:55,860 --> 03:33:57,360
The 8th to the 29th.

2832
03:33:57,380 --> 03:33:58,460
All the 8th to the 29th.

2833
03:33:58,640 --> 03:33:59,460
Okay, I've got you.

2834
03:33:59,800 --> 03:34:01,000
I thought there was just a move in a week.

2835
03:34:01,220 --> 03:34:02,080
We're not meeting on Saturday.

2836
03:34:02,640 --> 03:34:02,840
Okay.

2837
03:34:03,280 --> 03:34:04,240
I'm not looking at the calendar.

2838
03:34:05,320 --> 03:34:05,880
And it's late.

2839
03:34:05,880 --> 03:34:12,440
All right, so it sounds like that's the council's consensus for that.

2840
03:34:13,240 --> 03:34:14,540
So anything else?

2841
03:34:15,560 --> 03:34:16,840
All right, well, thank you, council.

2842
03:34:18,360 --> 03:34:19,740
And some of these meetings are easier.

2843
03:34:19,940 --> 03:34:20,740
Some of them are harder.

2844
03:34:21,100 --> 03:34:23,020
This one is in the dragon on a little longer.

2845
03:34:23,200 --> 03:34:27,040
But I think we, I think it's to our benefit to address these issues.

2846
03:34:27,320 --> 03:34:28,220
It's the public's benefit.

2847
03:34:29,600 --> 03:34:32,160
And to even if they're on popular to lay some of these things out,

2848
03:34:32,160 --> 03:34:35,060
that people can plan and we start moving forward.

2849
03:34:35,960 --> 03:34:37,000
All right.

2850
03:34:37,140 --> 03:34:37,480
Thank you.

2851
03:34:37,520 --> 03:34:37,600
Go on.

2852
03:34:37,660 --> 03:34:38,220
We're adjourned.

2853
03:34:38,500 --> 03:34:39,700
Thank you.

2854
03:34:39,860 --> 03:34:42,380
Good job, press for hanging to the last minute.

2855
03:34:45,240 --> 03:34:45,760
Go.