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the beautiful weather that you blessed us with, whether our hearts continue to go out for those that

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Well, it's property during the flood, father would just ask you for it to be with them and encourage them.

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Father, we ask you for it to be with family, over in Chicago, where they're signed.

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We ask you father, just to be with that young man.

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Father, we ask you for it to be with one of our own commissioners.

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Let's see if they can receive help this year.

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Father, just thank you, Lord, for all that you're doing in his life.

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We ask you for it quick recovery.

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We're missing and we're looking at them and all the doctors and those that take care of them up

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We're also looking patting in the family just to just put your arms around them let them know that we're loving and that we're thinking about

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And we're here for them for whatever they may do

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If I were asked to go to be with our commissioners tonight, you know, then the wisdom the boldness the understanding that they need to make all the decisions

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They have before if you're holy man

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Okay, not in the States of America.

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It is very lovely with stamps, one nation, and a dollar in it.

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It is just a little bit of liberty and a dollar on.

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Please be safe.

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Mark, would you call the roll, please?

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Mr. and Thart.

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Here.

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Chairman Henry.

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Mr. Harris.

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Yes.

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Mr. Earl Wong.

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Here.

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To add if we're looking at possibly moving that into the open up in a public hearing,

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but we'll bypass that.

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the agenda, so we've got one item to remove, what number was that for us,

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they had an envelope. And add 9.5.

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So, clear as my prayer about it. So, we're going to

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I hope they're gendered with the indexes at 9.2 and 12.3 that had those

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approval of the North Order, EMC, Boeing drive, a lot of them.

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That corrects that anything else that I'm missing can have a motion to approve

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the amended amended agenda.

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I'll make a motion to approve.

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All in favour, sir.

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All right.

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Please help me.

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Not next.

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And I get a motion to approve the minutes for me.

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I would state a team.

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Make a motion.

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All in favour, sir.

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Now we have a presentation.

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Have you come up?

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Thank you for being.

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No, I'm not.

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That wasn't going to bring it up either.

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Good evening.

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My name is Heather Rosner and I serve as the chief executive officer of Bridg Health.

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I've got some of my team that are going to come up and I'm going to talk about two different programs.

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You over here.

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It does.

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Thank you, Chair, Mr. Henry, and Commissioners for letting us speak.

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We're really here just to talk and brag about our programs and how we've used it.

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We realize the funds that the county has supported us with and we wanted to thank you and tell you a few things about some good news, actually, what's happening.

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I did want to just share again a little bit about our agency because it's complicated,

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but we began in the community in 1965 to serve those with mental illness and developmental disabilities.

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And then we were created in legislation as a community service board, CSV in 1994, and then we rebranded to bridge health in 2022 when I became CEO.

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A community service board is a public corporation.

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Tell you a little bit about it.

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It's a public corporation that is an instrumentality of the state.

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We are the, quote unquote, safety net provider for those with severe persistent mental illness,

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addictive disease, and those with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

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This past July set at Bill 535 has recreated community service boards by having the CEOs

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like myself become employees of the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental

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Disabilities, DVHDD, as well as looking at our boards in our structure.

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Thank you for to Commissioner Tharpu is on our board.

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There are, make sure I've got my slides moving forward.

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There's an association over all the community service boards across the state.

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They're called Georgia Association of CSPs.

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And there are 20 community service boards across the state.

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and we served at upper left-hand corner,

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including Katuse County.

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Calendar year, this past calendar year,

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we served roughly 4,200 individuals

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across the Fort County area.

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We currently have 145 employees

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and have additional independent contractors.

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One of the programs, so I wanted to thank you all for

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and tell you about is our transportation program.

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If Lisa wouldn't mind coming up, and this program that occurred in December of 2024, when

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we created an MOU with the county to transport residents of Katysu County to walk a county

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for accountability court treatment, and that we found that a lot of times I was a barrier

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to people completing court because it's very intensive and it's quite a distance, and

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We utilize that funding and prevent presented a driver and vans and got people to the treatment that they needed.

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We completed 476 trips from FY24 until the end of FY2026.

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And I wanted to say a little bit about the program, but I wanted to share Lisa Fitzsimmons, who's standing here next to me.

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She's our transportation coordinator, and she wanted to share a little bit about the program.

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Since she did most of the work.

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Hello.

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I just wanted to touch on what we call a success story.

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We like to have those.

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We had a participant that began writing the vehicle for this drug court program,

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and middle of 2025, and we watched her grow and do all of the things to make her successful.

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And she graduated the program just recently, just a month or two ago.

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She was able to get a rural vehicle and be successful and get back located with family and things that nature.

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So the funding for her to be able to attend this program really, you know, changed her life to the better.

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So that was a big success for us.

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And then at her graduation, she was a very complementary of being able to use the transportation and how it really did.

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Help her get to the goal that she needed to be in to be successful.

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Everyone is your fiscal year beginning for folks.

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I'm just trying to see.

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July 1st.

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So we're trending.

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We'll have more trips.

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It looks to be what I want there to understand.

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I mean, we're trending upwards still.

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we have been. Gretchen Neal is here and she's in the back and she's over our drug court and said

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we really would love to find more participants who may need the transport, but a lot of the time they

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have their own transportation. Since we already had drivers and vehicles we said hey let's offer

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this and see if it's helpful and if you all hadn't been at the graduation I mean just to hear this

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80th thank her drivers by name and they were there was very touching and I called down immediately and I said, hey, this really, this really, this really, the commissioner should hear because her life's changed because of that money.

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Another program that I wanted to talk about is our co-responder program, which, excuse the county, supported last year and supporting again this year.

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Just so you kind of have a background on what a co-responder program is, it's a national standard

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that trend that pairs a law enforcement officer with a mental health professional to jointly respond to crisis,

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especially those involving mental illness, substance use or homelessness.

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They aim to de-escalate situations, reduce arrests and hospitalizations, and connect people back to care that they need.

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We currently partner with Tuse Towney Sheriff's Office and our current team.

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I'm just going to ask them to come up here so they don't mind.

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We've got Deputy Sheriff Shelby Lewis and BrichHealth employees Jeff Roerdink and Lisa Stephens.

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Lisa is our licensed therapist who supports the team clinically.

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And we, I'm going to tell you a little bit about the program and then let them say something

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because they're doing the hard work again.

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So their shifts are scheduled around higher call times, which right now it's Monday through

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Thursday, 10 30 to 7 and Friday from 9 to 5.

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The team provides services across the county, including the city as well.

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From January 1st to August 21st, 2026, the team followed up on 175 individuals.

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118 of them were adults in 57 juveniles of those only two were arrested.

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Mind you, there may have been warrants involved and does not mean there was mental illness

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that caused their arrest.

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There are 16 community service boards operating 33 co-responder teams throughout the state.

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And the thing about our program is that it did begun in 2021 with Highland Rivers.

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They were unable to staff the program because staffing is interesting and difficult because

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it's hard to find a clinical person who's willing to ride in the vehicle with law enforcement.

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So they struggled to find staff.

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So we came alongside and we're able to, we've provided a case manager and now we've provided

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Jeff, who's working on his license, is getting his master's degree.

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Who he was in the, you were firemen.

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So he's had some experience, you know, with law enforcement, which is extremely helpful.

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This team has done very well.

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And just a slide here.

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So these slides show the difference between us,

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we're blue and orange, which are the other co-responder teams across the state.

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I don't know if you can really even see it, but it will be sent out to you so you can have it.

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The first slide talks about referral categories and you can see that 61% of the calls are crisis calls that they responded to.

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39% are requested by law enforcement for the team to support them, and so they quite often go out when law enforcement contacts them for a situation.

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The next slide talks about the percentages by population.

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So most of the time, as I said earlier, it's adults.

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79% were adults and then 21% are actually youth and children and the team can go to

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LIPTs and they can go to the schools and find resources for the families so they're

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very involved with the schools at times when they need them which is very helpful because

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they can be a familiar face to these and then this is a percentage of their disposition

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So, what happens? What occurs with them? It looks as though for this past year, a lot of them

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voluntarily go to an ED emergency, receding facility or emergency room. As I said, only 1% are

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arrested. So, most of the time, they're getting back into a program to help them and they're de-escalated

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at the scene. And we do find that a lot of the individuals come get referred back to the healthcare

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center. So they might be people we already know. We can look them up in the system and say,

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well, Mr. Smith, if you haven't had your shot, that you're supposed to have this month. And so,

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because he's in our electronic healthcare record, he can look up individuals and can back

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to the services that are what they need to be in and not incarcerated ever.

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So, it's been very helpful. I'm going to let the team speak and maybe tell a story or something impactful, and then I don't know if

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Sheriff wants to say anything to.

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Thank you for meeting with us. So, one individual that comes to mind that we've dealt with probably 20 times since the first of the year.

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That's a lot of us going out there trying to get him assistance, trying to get him back into

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services.

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He was an individual that was service by Bridge Health.

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However, medications, people say, hey, I don't need to take this medication because I feel

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good.

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But that's not how that works, unfortunately, unfortunately, with medical or with mental health.

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So we managed to reach out to his family member and say, hey, what can we do to help you

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get him back into services.

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There was a little snag between Walker County and Katissa County,

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but I think we managed to work that out.

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So he's got relative now that are willing to take care of him

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to help administer the medication that he needs

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on a regular basis.

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A lot of times people with mental health

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will forget to take that medication as well.

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Did you take, I don't know, so it's one of those things

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You know, with having a family member that we, you know, said, hey, can we get, get you to kind of help him out, you know, he doesn't have to live with you, but just can you go and assist him with his, with his medications and making sure that he can get, get the services that he will need. So, um, as far as I'm aware, he's been doing really well. I don't think we've seen him in.

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two or three months now we were going every day sometimes three like we would leave and turn around because he'd gone out the back door

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And as that the other neighbor's house and we'd be turned around back on and he's child life

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So sometimes it would be comical like where are you going you know

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Resource that we heavily on whether it's just getting

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assistance with guardianship, conservatorship

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sometimes for a bit of orders for an involuntary committals, but had come to find out that he was actually supposed to have a conservator in a Guardian that had passed three years prior, and he had been without for several years.

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You can see that's why we kind of were downward of spiraling without his medication because he didn't have him taking care of him.

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And then we were able to connect that link back and get somebody that was like, hey, you know, I'm willing to be, I'm willing to go through proway and get that same guardianship over him.

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And now she is almost through the process, but she's in the meantime taking responsibility.

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I mean, without the paperwork and is helping him with his medication and his daily care and we haven't received one call in probably almost three months.

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Thank you.

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Because the program and Chair, if you talked about this and I know you'll come back up.

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We don't want them in our jails, they need the help that they need and they're not going to get it in jail.

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And so this program, it saves taxpayers money and that's great, but the benefit is as we've got folks getting the health they need.

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Exactly. Thank y'all for the grind every day and what you're doing because it makes a difference.

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And that's one of the first time I think you had a rest of the board.

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I'm actually saying we also work with it. We go to, well, we have it because of the schools been out.

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We go to everything like a lot of PT meeting if you're aware of what those are for their schools.

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So I mean, let's just say we're with the kids that would possibly need the most assistance

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And then the family is going to reach back out to us and that resources that work and we might

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control something else.

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But then let's get those up back there.

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But we've had success through the LLPT meetings too, which is being in front of the families all

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together in the same position.

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Because sometimes the task is like getting parents at home while we're working, they're

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also at work.

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Trying to call them.

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It's not as formal.

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We like to be our first follow-up in-person, laying our eyes on the end of the day.

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individual or the parents and say, like, hey, we're trying to physically see you and show that

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you that we actually, we're here in person, like, what can we do for you in person? And then

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we'll follow up several other times or sometimes, say, what else to kick rocks? And we kick rocks,

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but for the most part, people are very receptive. Or just have no idea that we exist. And then tell

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somebody else about it. And that's how we kind of spread with the numbers that we have now.

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I'm thankful, the board allowed me to serve, and that's why I'm a little bit more involved.

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Obviously, I'm on the board, and so I get to see all the work that goes in on a daily basis.

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And all those employees, however, you talk about and all that.

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It's so needed in our community, and we talk about the fact that mental health, there's more resources needed.

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But well, tell you, without the resources we have with you guys, we'd be in a real bad shape.

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So, you know, you're welcome.

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You're welcome.

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Yeah.

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It's good to see you all.

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We're back here tonight, man.

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So that's our presentation and again, I just wanted to thank you all for supporting us the way that you have.

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Well, we've got a little proclamation for you.

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Yes.

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I did bring some of our recovery community with us as well.

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So I'll be moving out of the way.

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I'm sorry, Chris.

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I thought we're going to get all the others.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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That's okay.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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We do have a proclamation for recovery months at Timber 26,

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whereas recovery from substance use disorders as possible

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and thousands of Georgians are living healthy, fulfilling lives

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and long-term recovery, and whereas prevention, treatment, and recovery support services

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are proven to be effective, helping individuals, families, and communities heal, and

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thrive.

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And whereas recovery month provides an opportunity to celebrate the strength and resilience

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of those in recovery to honor the dedication of service providers and to raise awareness

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that help is available.

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And whereas Katusa County in the state of Georgia is committed to reducing stigma, expanding

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access to care and fostering supportive environments where recovery can flourish.

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And now, therefore, bear resolve that the month of September is hereby recognized as

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recovery month in Katusa County, Georgia, and all citizens are encouraged to support

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individuals on the recovery journey and to promote understanding of substance abuse disorders

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and treatable health conditions.

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So, resolved this first day of September, 2026 to the County Board of Commissioner.

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I haven't been to any states yet, so I want to submit some of the individuals from the recovery community right here.

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Yeah, please bring them up.

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If I've got something to say, we'd love to hear.

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I don't know if you all want to say anything.

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Good evening.

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My name is Donna Spigle and I am the CEO of Unified In Recovery that's located on Highway 27.

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in Lafayette, Georgia. We are an RCO, which is a recovery community organization, and I just want

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to say thank you very much to the Katusek County Commissioners for bestowing the honor of letting

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me represent not only unifying recovery, but other community resource and recovery organizations

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and agencies because it's very important that we help people who are in recovery and we help

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So she had to come and recovery.

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So on behalf of all of us, thank you very much.

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And it is very nice to be able to let the people in our community know that not only

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are they not alone, but there is hope.

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Don't be bashful.

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Kelly is our DECO disease director and she also oversees our accountability court treatment

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program.

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And I was a little late because I was coming from working with Fayette and there was a wreck

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a pretty bad wreck.

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So you'll be aware of that.

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if you were speeding up, right, yourself out there as well.

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I did look at my phone to see where I was going,

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but I made it, I made it when I was...

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I wish you didn't test it, it's okay, as I had first test.

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That's it, it's good.

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I've eyes up.

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Absolutely, no hands, I have all the problems.

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I've been doing this work for about 15 years now,

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13 of it with bridge.

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And when I hear that proclamation,

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I actually get a little tear-eyed because I have seen those changes happen in the time that I've

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been working with bridge. And I just want to say thank you for your continued support, thank you

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for inviting us here. I say all the time, we do recover. And what I want to say is we recover

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together. And Georgia is recovering and you guys are part of the force for that. And I really

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appreciate that. And I happen to be from the north so when I say you guys it's not. It's not

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a guy that is. I probably should say y'all, but I shouldn't. But again thank you so much and please

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if there's anything we can do reach out because we want to make this community better. And let me

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to say, I've got to say it really quickly.

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I came from in the north, I ended up when I was 13 years old,

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living on San Mountain from Detroit.

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We won't talk about that.

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But anyways, I ended up living on San Mountain,

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graduated in 1987 from Northwest Georgia High School,

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which is Dave County, which is now one of my archachment area.

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And I think we were actually rivals in school,

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but we won't talk about that part.

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So, but the moral of the story is, these are my people.

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and you are my people, and we are serving.

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Our people together. So I'm going to shut up now, but we do recover. Thank you.

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He learned all this.

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He learned all this.

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I was saying,

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I wasn't here either one of you.

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Normal sized people.

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Okay.

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Let's

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move on to Jason Buck.

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Jason here.

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Jason here.

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Mr. Nulls.

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Yeah, that's nice.

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We were looking for two here.

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I'm looking for that.

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Jason Buck.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Joseph knows, I'm all in that.

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I rented a building for a sink. I'm going to hold a meeting.

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I left a coffee for Thursday night, so I was one of my hold a meeting up here at the

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Boyington Building for a sink tonight. I'd like to show up. I have a left a coffee is over here for everyone.

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If you can, it will be nice. What I've been doing over 15 years have been on the

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And our Republican former government is what I'm trying to convey for the people to stand up and reclaim our government as it's supposed to be.

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And I've mentioned before that we're being governed as a democracy.

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We was just, we was taught there.

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We've not been taught how to be a really a Republican former government, a representative form.

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I don't like Mr. Warner. He's great. I've called him 18 times. He entered a phone two or three.

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And the last time, and I've heard this from Vice Commissioner, the State representative, excuse me.

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And also a U.S. representative, and the State Senator also heard the same thing.

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Well, let's have lunch. You cannot discuss. You can't go out to lunch and really discuss.

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the amount of deception that we've had in our government.

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It just thing will happen.

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I have two white boards that I've set up.

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It's been, I've had them for about four years or started

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to get danger in everything.

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I didn't want to erase them and redo them because

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don't write as good as I used to.

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And so they look better danger than they would,

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by the way.

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But I'm holding a meeting Thursday night.

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And I only take about an hour,

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hour and a half, something like that,

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probably for the meeting.

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and anyone wants to stay and volunteer to help so we can get together.

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You can only get something done.

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If the people stand as a group, one person ain't going to get nothing. I can tell you the truth all day in the world, but if it's not something you used to, you're not going to believe it. And that's, I found that out, we're right in the book. The book, nobody believes the book. It's correct, pretty much all correct, but I understand it. My own family member said, I don't think so. Why would I expect anyone else to believe it? But I'll give, like, six phrases in the Constitution, we'll run a

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through them, you read them yourself, I read them, and I'll go through it what I found out

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in the last 15 years that I was shocked. I couldn't believe why we would have received the first

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time from George Washington. Second time was the 17th Amendment and 1913. And you just probably

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wouldn't believe this. It's going to surprise you when you see it. You read it for yourself,

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I'll show you what it means, explain a representative form of government, and I can do it in

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hour and a half, and then you decide whether you think it's right, you know, we got a lot

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of good elected representatives, we got a lot of good people in government, but they get

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a lot of plaque, you're doing this wrong, you're voting for taxes when we die, nobody's

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going to get everything, they just not going to happen. I won't ever thank free, but that's

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ridiculous to think of that. If you don't pay for it, ain't nothing free in this world,

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You know, I mean, I don't know, I'm just rambling right now right now, but anyway, I do

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want to, I would like to give a presentation. Also, I'm taking a copy of the active members

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of the recruiters from Shawford Road. They've told me that they would be a meeting, so as I

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said, so I'm going to the National Guard, the Marines, the Air Force, and the Marines,

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and maybe it's saying me anyway.

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But they said that they would show up to the meeting.

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The Marines, they said, oh no,

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we don't know the Constitution.

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They have no clue.

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I was in the military.

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I've reached most of all, but I had no clue.

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I spent five years in, and I can talk,

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I've talked to military personnel, above Chicago,

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down south Florida, different places.

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I went to military base.

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I said, let me answer your question about the Constitution,

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to say, oh, I don't know if I can answer it, I'll try to, but they don't know the Constitution.

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You got to know how to read it, and it's a contract, and everything's in phrases.

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And if you knew how to dissect that phrase, you'll say, why did we not see this before?

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We got smart people in this world. We got attorneys, smart attorneys, but they don't read it

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contract, they just read through it, and it's over with. So if you can come to the meeting,

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I rented it, and I'll do what I can, and I'd like to see something come out of it.

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We need a Republican form of government back. We got a lot of good elected officials. We got

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a lot of good people in government. We got some bad ones. Congress, Congress is a mess. You can

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fix Congress. If Trump knew the Constitution, he fixed Congress in one day, one speech. All

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This act for voting thing everybody, he's trying to find it, he tries to just fuck it.

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The people y'all would want to pass this, voting and take, you won't take, everybody won't

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say it. It'd be so easy. I'm out of time.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You have a good day, sir.

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Thank you.

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It's Joey.

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Joey, I was thinking about you when the mental health and the addiction and all.

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We've got a little. Yes, we do. We have a connection.

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Thank you.

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Please point that out, sir.

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He's doing well, by the way.

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I spoke to him last week, so he's doing great.

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I just need a quick moment, please.

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I believe in a previous meeting you had approved a surplus for Gavdeals for the Colony and we've missed one autumn and it is a piano that we've acquired several years ago for one of the plays, the in-house play productions and it's still in great shape and we would like to have your approval to add that to the surplus list.

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So, can I get a motion to this edge?

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So move.

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Second.

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We get a roll call vote.

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Yes.

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Chairman Henry? Yes.

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Mr. Harris? Yes.

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Mr. Long? Yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Wood.

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Item 0.3.

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Chairman, commission.

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So this item is for the proposed bit of ward for the 2025-0-3 not sure

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traffic circle project. Invitations to bid were posted on July 22, August 5, 2026. Bids

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were open on August 20, 2026, a 2 p.m. local time with five submissions received and evaluated

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by county staff and CTI engineers. The lowest responsive and responsible bidder was a packet

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Atlantic Incorporated, doing businesses' tally construction, with a bid of $1,656,976

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and 21 cents.

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The second lowest bid, submitted by Wilson Construction Management LLC, was $1,707,403.

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This was a difference of $426 and 79 cents.

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CTI has verified tele-constructions qualifications and confirmed past satisfactory performance

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on comparable projects.

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Based on this review, CTI recommends that the county proceed with awarding the project

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to tele-construction.

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Funding for this project will be provided through 2019's boss funds.

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Can I

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get a motion to the President?

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I'll make a motion.

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We approve.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Hannah?

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Ms. Sarthart?

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Yes.

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Chairman Henry?

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Ms. Sarthart?

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Yes.

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Ms. Sarthart long?

457
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Yes.

458
00:37:10,180 --> 00:37:11,240
Or to say in this one.

459
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:22,300
But in F.A. represented,

460
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:25,340
counting roger we don't have a name right down here.

461
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Good evening, everyone.

462
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,400
We're back today to discuss the amendment

463
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:51,760
to your stop loss contract. There was an approval when we initially reviewed your information.

464
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:58,360
It was in an illustrative quote. We did firm up those numbers with the stop loss vendors and

465
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:05,040
they did come back with some changes which included adding a couple of lasers and some additional

466
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:12,560
liability to the stop loss contract which there's still savings that's there but it's not

467
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,860
quite as much as the savings that we initially,

468
00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:17,660
that we showed previously.

469
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:23,280
I need a motion to do something that's all we can have

470
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,260
in this guest and

471
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:28,780
I'm a proof or

472
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:36,420
make a motion.

473
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,600
I'm like a motion to approve, okay.

474
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:40,300
I'm gonna say it down.

475
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:43,040
I'll say I can prove the point of discussion.

476
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,100
Oh, I guess we're all gonna ask the same question

477
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,000
that I don't think none of us remember

478
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,560
and illustrate the, we don't normally vote on the illustration.

479
00:38:54,020 --> 00:38:55,280
We vote the members of the facts.

480
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,120
So I don't think no one here recalls it that way.

481
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,980
And we definitely didn't vote on any of our employees,

482
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:05,840
yet in the laser processing, crazy.

483
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:09,100
So can you explain how we got here and why?

484
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:10,520
Yes, sir.

485
00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:14,860
So when we got some additional claims information from U.H.C.,

486
00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:17,480
it showed that there were some additional high-cost

487
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:25,080
claimants that, and then also some ongoing claimants with illnesses, I won't mention here,

488
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,620
but some of them are determined to be chronic illnesses that were included.

489
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,140
That were not previously made aware of to the stop loss provider.

490
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,280
So once they got that information, their underwriters reviewed and reassess the numbers,

491
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,660
and that's when they came back with the lasers.

492
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:58,500
Yes, sir. And with the timing of the claims data that was provided, it was late getting from

493
00:39:59,340 --> 00:39:59,980
8c2, all of them.

494
00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:09,820
That's the reason why we didn't have those firm quotes, where we were looking at those truly finalized numbers.

495
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,340
When did you get the firm quotes?

496
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:25,340
We got the information, the claims information around the first of June, and then that takes about five to turn business days for them to provide us with the firm numbers.

497
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:28,660
And when was our staff that passed?

498
00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:32,400
I mean, well, once we got the firm numbers,

499
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:35,080
we went back to negotiation based on the information

500
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,480
because what they initially released

501
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,200
was even higher number of liability.

502
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,880
So we went back to those stop loss providers

503
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,360
and was renegotiating with them in June

504
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,660
through the end of July.

505
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:50,520
And at the end of July, we reached out.

506
00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:51,160
I'm sorry.

507
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:54,060
We reached out in August to the staff to share

508
00:40:54,060 --> 00:41:00,880
that we had the final stop loss quote from Tim the policy from TMHCC took you

509
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Marie I'm not I'm looking at my staff I'm thinking that they didn't get that

510
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,860
man though yeah I'm wondering who who did you reach out to in August I believe the

511
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:17,780
way that occurred was or accounts payable for

512
00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:24,400
required about why we hadn't received that invoice for the stop-loss policy.

513
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:25,220
Correct.

514
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:36,560
And that's what triggered that now, I guess in addition to that question, I have is if you

515
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,160
received the updated information for the March claims data in the first of June and then

516
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:50,140
you should have gone back to all of the stop loss companies because they all was operating

517
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:55,640
on the previous loss-right-shadows numbers and those types of our claims experience.

518
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:02,560
So, and then when you did, I think at that point in time, those numbers should have been

519
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,320
brought to us so that we could share with the Board of Commissioners to have to approve it

520
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,560
because it's obvious by the spreadsheet that you've provided once I asked for it on June,

521
00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:21,660
I mean August the 26 or 28, that there are other carriers that have a lower fixed

522
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:27,740
cost for the stop loss that did not include lasers, which would not have increased our

523
00:42:27,740 --> 00:42:33,280
liability, which is, I mean that's going to be a lower cost.

524
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:44,180
Yes, they're in T. We don't know about the hypotheticals of claims and we can all come up with a different methodology on how to predict those claims.

525
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:51,940
But those claims are going to be paid by the county as long as it's under $150,000.

526
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:59,120
Correct. So just for clarification, we had to get claims through April 30th instead of through March 35th.

527
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:06,060
OK, well, we were told last week when we had the NFP virtual meeting.

528
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Am I correct, Ms. Laura and Rachel, that it was March's numbers.

529
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:13,080
Am I thinking right?

530
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:15,700
That's what we were told.

531
00:43:15,740 --> 00:43:17,140
It was March's numbers.

532
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:21,520
And we couldn't figure out why it would take all the way to June to get March's number.

533
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,660
But regardless, when those numbers were provided,

534
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,000
that stop-law should have been shopped based

535
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,440
on those actual numbers to the stop-laws company,

536
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,700
and those results should have been given to the county,

537
00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:40,740
so we would have had some opportunity.

538
00:43:42,140 --> 00:43:42,640
Correct.

539
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,620
So I will say in what happened was that when we did

540
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:49,900
get the April through April numbers, we did shop

541
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:52,540
with all the, all the stop loss menders.

542
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,580
We did go back to that exhibit that we shared with you last week.

543
00:43:57,020 --> 00:44:02,280
It does show all the other stop loss menders at the time to see what they were able to do.

544
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:07,940
We did work, and as I mentioned before, to negotiate, to get the stop loss back to what we

545
00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:10,560
initially showed the county that was approved.

546
00:44:11,260 --> 00:44:17,380
That was the benefit, that's part of our consulting, that is part of our promise to you all.

547
00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:25,300
If we know that we're going in with an approved approval from the Council members, we're going back to those stop-loss vendors,

548
00:44:25,660 --> 00:44:30,960
carrier partners, whomever, and we're staying within the guidelines and within what was approved.

549
00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:38,540
So that was our argument back to them to try to get them to bring it back down to what we initially showed you all.

550
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,800
We did not want to show you something that wasn't honest, wasn't transparent.

551
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,960
even though those initial numbers were not the finalized numbers.

552
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:50,040
Normally the stop loss vendor may come back with,

553
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,960
normally they'll come back with a slight increase,

554
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,820
or maybe a laser here or there,

555
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:56,620
that they're willing to work with us.

556
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,160
They came back with initially eight lasers.

557
00:44:59,660 --> 00:44:59,980
So there were eight...

558
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,800
Eight people that they were trying to carve out of the initial stop loss of that $150,000. So we did go back and renegotiate with them, show them accurate data, talk to them about, okay, these conditions, they're not ongoing.

559
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:23,580
These conditions are not something that you should be lasering out and providing that liability to the county.

560
00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:31,880
They're not, this individual was more than likely not going to reach this limit because their treatment plan is saying they're going to conclude it by that timeframe.

561
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:39,800
So we didn't want to show you something that wasn't accurate in our even in with them farming up those numbers.

562
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:49,520
So even in our negotiations, we did not go and lay down and just take what was given to us and say, okay, these are not farm numbers.

563
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,340
This is not what the county was had approved.

564
00:45:52,820 --> 00:45:55,020
We did talk to them on numerous occasions.

565
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:00,880
We escalated it up within TMHCC along with our internal

566
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,920
and executive teams at NFP.

567
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:06,760
So we got everyone that we could involve to bring it down

568
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,080
to where it should be.

569
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Unfortunately, they weren't able to match that illustrious quote.

570
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,380
And we want it to be honest and transparent with the county.

571
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,920
We weren't just going to send you a contract that was incorrect.

572
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:26,620
We wanted to make your team aware that HR team, the finance team aware of it, our timing was very poorly.

573
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440
I will say very poorly executed.

574
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:34,620
We probably could have shared it a lot sooner as we were going through those negotiations.

575
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,420
So on that part I do apologize, but I'm never going to apologize for fighting for doing the right thing.

576
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,560
I'm never going to apologize for being honest and bringing forth what we initially,

577
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:55,840
But what was initially approved and trying to get back to that number and ensuring that the savings are still greater than what the renewal came from UACC?

578
00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:59,520
Well, the savings were still greater than a number of the other carrier partners.

579
00:47:02,110 --> 00:47:05,610
Well, I think we all would have a lot to do in part of that conversation early around.

580
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:06,450
Yes, sir.

581
00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:07,790
That's what needs that

582
00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:16,870
was a change in what you all presented as accurate numbers that we should know in time to be able to make decisions otherwise.

583
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:25,310
I don't think one of us out here wants to approve this as Clayton Cal, when we're already

584
00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:26,350
going to do that.

585
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,730
They obviously already didn't have a threat.

586
00:47:29,490 --> 00:47:30,470
I'm interested in getting any more involved.

587
00:47:30,550 --> 00:47:34,090
Well, I'm looking at the spreadsheet that you guys provided to us.

588
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:39,050
First of all, thank you for acknowledging the time lag and everything.

589
00:47:39,210 --> 00:47:40,790
I appreciate that.

590
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:46,310
It seems like now we're kind of trapped where we're at, but there were other options that

591
00:47:46,310 --> 00:47:51,830
I'm looking down here, like Berkshire Hathaway as an option, there were other options

592
00:47:51,830 --> 00:47:56,390
available to us and correct me from wrong that we could have pursued, but now the window

593
00:47:56,390 --> 00:48:01,710
is closed, I've been told, so all of a sudden those options that would have put us in a lower

594
00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:05,670
cost are not available to us, is that true and accurate?

595
00:48:06,130 --> 00:48:10,770
Yes, that is true and accurate, I will say we were working from the understanding that

596
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:17,290
what was budgeted was based on actuarial numbers and not what was here that was presented as well.

597
00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:24,410
So that was that would bid on our era because we were thinking that we presented the stop loss.

598
00:48:24,570 --> 00:48:29,830
These are the expected claims, but we also was projecting to budget a little higher than what was

599
00:48:29,830 --> 00:48:35,930
presented. So if there were any discrepancies or any questions that came, then we would still fall

600
00:48:35,930 --> 00:48:37,610
within your budget at guidelines.

601
00:48:38,310 --> 00:48:41,130
And my understanding is we missed it by just days.

602
00:48:41,350 --> 00:48:42,530
We're not talking weeks.

603
00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:46,050
If we had this conversation, for instance, last week,

604
00:48:46,290 --> 00:48:47,830
we would have had these options available

605
00:48:47,830 --> 00:48:50,750
where we could have pivoted and maneuvered

606
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:52,310
to save taxpayers' money.

607
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:54,810
And that's the disappointing thing for me,

608
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:56,370
is because now we're boxed in.

609
00:48:56,730 --> 00:48:58,970
And we've got an escalator cost that we didn't,

610
00:48:58,970 --> 00:49:00,530
as a board agreed to.

611
00:49:00,670 --> 00:49:04,850
But we had options, had we been made aware.

612
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:12,850
that's hard to swallow. That's real hard to swallow. And that's, you know, in the business

613
00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:18,590
world, you know, I have to eat cost all the time, right? If I make a mistake and I build houses,

614
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:24,070
if I make a mistake to a customer, if it's my own mistake, I've just got to own it, right? That's

615
00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:29,150
just part of business. And that's kind of where I'm at with this. It's like, we as a board, and

616
00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:33,230
we as a county, we didn't do anything wrong in my opinion. And then all of a sudden we're stuck

617
00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:39,770
cost that wasn't anything on our in for poor communication or things along the way in the business

618
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:46,050
world those are cost to get eaten by the person that that cost mistake and I don't know where

619
00:49:46,050 --> 00:49:51,630
it's going to go from here but I'm sure not happy and I've got to answer taxpayers and why

620
00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:57,010
things didn't get done right and I appreciate again the fact that you you know came forward and said

621
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:59,210
you know, we had some timeline issues.

622
00:49:59,710 --> 00:49:59,890
Absolutely.

623
00:49:59,890 --> 00:49:59,970
Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next video, and I'll see you in the next video.

624
00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:07,590
But now the sudden it's costing our taxpayers and the people we represent money. And that's something that we've got to try to try to remedy.

625
00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:12,470
And I would like to know if there's a zero way to remedy that.

626
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:19,110
Well, I will say that we have exhausted all of our options with negotiations.

627
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:29,470
We have escalated as I mentioned it earlier on. They're unfortunately at this point in stage in the game because we are a couple of months into your new plan year.

628
00:50:29,470 --> 00:50:34,650
We are set for the contract as is at this point in time.

629
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:40,130
So we really have no, I mean, it's a work.

630
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:44,230
We answered to our taxpayers and say,

631
00:50:44,650 --> 00:50:48,390
we screwed up and we cost you more money than we should have cost you,

632
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:50,510
or answered our employees and say you don't have insurance.

633
00:50:51,350 --> 00:50:53,450
So we don't have a really good.

634
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:58,350
What I'm, I understand, we are boxed in.

635
00:50:58,350 --> 00:51:05,170
I understand that we've got to be looking forward to the next renewal and I'm asking this.

636
00:51:05,690 --> 00:51:13,190
You guys a partner with us that look at every single option and look at working with us as a partner.

637
00:51:13,450 --> 00:51:15,290
I mean, you're the insurance experts.

638
00:51:15,550 --> 00:51:15,910
We're not.

639
00:51:16,610 --> 00:51:18,350
That's why we contract with you.

640
00:51:18,350 --> 00:51:25,690
And I'm assuming you make an amount of money for the work you do of going through all this.

641
00:51:25,690 --> 00:51:55,170
and I know it's a lot of work, and again, you know, you're standing up in front of us, and you know what I appreciate that, you know, this is not an email, oops, you know, you're standing here, and that, that is not unnoticed, I appreciate your honesty, appreciate the fact that you take this serious, but I'm asking, moving forward if we maintain you guys, I mean,

642
00:51:55,690 --> 00:51:58,210
Is this something that we're going to run into next year?

643
00:51:58,930 --> 00:52:03,490
I mean, are we going to get the diligent, hardworking,

644
00:52:04,990 --> 00:52:11,610
communicative company that says, here's every landmine out there.

645
00:52:12,030 --> 00:52:13,690
And we know about those landmines.

646
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:16,430
So you guys don't, we're going to tell you all about them.

647
00:52:16,610 --> 00:52:19,350
That's what I want to make sure that we don't get into this again.

648
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:22,690
And I want to make sure that this higher premium we're having to pay

649
00:52:22,690 --> 00:52:28,710
doesn't just become a look they paid it so we're just going on top of that premium now that's

650
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:33,450
the fear I have of these companies going okay that's what they paid last time why would we come down

651
00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:42,710
you know I don't know insurance you did so I will tell you we did learn from this era and we have

652
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:50,350
taken measures internally not just our specific office but this was an issue across our entire

653
00:52:50,350 --> 00:52:56,670
in a P company where there was this delay, there was these, there was some of these number

654
00:52:56,670 --> 00:53:02,770
errors and making sure that firm information was getting in an an a timely manner to our

655
00:53:02,770 --> 00:53:07,970
client and that they were getting communicated. So one I can assure you that that will not happen

656
00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:13,230
again, that's something we're willing to put into a contract, a performance guarantee, if that's

657
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:19,990
something we need to address at a later time, but there's definitely financial incentive there

658
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:25,490
that we can put up that will guarantee that that level of service will not happen again.

659
00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:34,370
Also, to address far as the renewals themselves and moving forward, we do look at all options.

660
00:53:34,810 --> 00:53:40,230
That's one of the reasons that we were very thorough this year and not just stick with the renewal that

661
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:48,950
you ate sea release, which was, I believe it was like 24.2% is what you ate sea release their stop loss renewal at.

662
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:54,810
So it was a hefty renewal initially and we weren't, we made sure that we did our due

663
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:57,670
diligence to go and look at other stop loss menders.

664
00:53:58,210 --> 00:54:03,930
We understand that every dollar matters to every constituent here, every employee, that's

665
00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:09,190
responsible for paying any amount of premium, regardless of what that may look like.

666
00:54:09,530 --> 00:54:15,430
So in doing so, we do have a promise of excellence to ensure that we are going to every

667
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:18,390
than they're ever carrier and looking at every option.

668
00:54:18,490 --> 00:54:21,250
And we're presenting them to the team appropriately.

669
00:54:22,190 --> 00:54:25,450
And we don't just slim it down and not show you anything.

670
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:30,250
We actually was showing all of the other options initially to the team

671
00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:33,230
when we first started talking about the renewal itself.

672
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:35,690
And then we started narrowing that down.

673
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:37,970
So we definitely value your feedback.

674
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:39,910
We understand that you are the client.

675
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:43,370
And that these are you and your constituents dollars

676
00:54:43,370 --> 00:54:51,510
and we want to be good stewards as well. We don't want to present, I did not want to have to come back here today and have to represent this.

677
00:54:51,970 --> 00:54:55,670
And I never want any of my teammates or myself to have to do this again.

678
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:59,870
So we want to ensure that we are presenting all options up front.

679
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,620
But we are also making sure that those numbers are concrete and that there is no room for error.

680
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:13,670
Yes, if you don't mind, just let me get a few things off my chair.

681
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:20,380
Before the quote, firm numbers,

682
00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:31,200
Burtshar was at 1,000,000,000,000,000. After they got that, they reduced their premium,

683
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:35,780
with no lasers, a 1,000,000, and 31,000.

684
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:46,760
Suisse, before the claims that, 1,200,000. After

685
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,200
are they got the claims data?

686
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,040
One million in $71,000.

687
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,580
Do you see a trend?

688
00:55:53,780 --> 00:55:55,460
I think everybody else went down.

689
00:55:57,620 --> 00:56:02,740
UHC was 1,646,000 dollars.

690
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:12,160
When they got the new claim data, it went down to 1,216,000 dollars.

691
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,880
And all of them, with no additional lasers.

692
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:23,320
But the one we're stuck with, that we could have made a change before yesterday,

693
00:56:26,370 --> 00:56:26,950
was at a

694
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:32,550
million in 72,000 when it was presented to this Board of Commissioners.

695
00:56:32,810 --> 00:56:41,210
And now it's a million $185,000 and three lasers and $250,000 of additional liability

696
00:56:41,210 --> 00:56:42,610
on your back.

697
00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:44,470
I think she said eight lasers.

698
00:56:45,210 --> 00:56:48,550
Initially it was eight, we negotiated down to three, yes, sir.

699
00:56:48,850 --> 00:56:56,150
So you have a trend that tells me that everybody else went down.

700
00:57:00,780 --> 00:57:04,840
But I will say to one argument and Commissioner Harris.

701
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,420
And that's fixed cost.

702
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,120
We can talk, and I'm sorry.

703
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,760
We can talk about extra, you know,

704
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:15,640
actuarial type stuff, but this is fixed stuff.

705
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,540
This is what we write a check for.

706
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,760
The claims we're going to pay, the claims regardless.

707
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:27,620
Because UHC is still going to be the same person that administers our health insurance

708
00:57:27,620 --> 00:57:28,660
for our people.

709
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:30,700
They just tell us how much to pay.

710
00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:47,090
And if we had an opportunity because your motion back on May the 19th was based upon what

711
00:57:47,090 --> 00:57:52,970
you were told, when that information become not so, we should have known about it.

712
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:54,410
So we could have reacted.

713
00:57:54,410 --> 00:58:01,440
We could have had a special call meeting Saturday at what any day it would be like that.

714
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:06,640
But I didn't know until just a couple of hours ago that that expired yesterday.

715
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,520
And I believe that's a problem.

716
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:18,420
So the only thing else I would say on that component is that we fill that TMHCC or Tokyo

717
00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:23,320
Moreno is being very conservative in their numbers and what they're offering in a manner

718
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:29,620
that would not cause an increase or a significant increase next year. Our concern was that the

719
00:58:29,620 --> 00:58:34,700
other carrier partners that did come in lower, that did see that same claims information,

720
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:42,460
know about those claims and could potentially be trying to show a lower dollar amount now

721
00:58:42,460 --> 00:58:49,760
anticipating you all selecting them as a potential carrier partner and then next year you're hit

722
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,600
with a 15, 20, 30% increase.

723
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,640
So that's also part of our thought process

724
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,980
when we're looking at them.

725
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,380
We can use those other carrier partners

726
00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:02,160
as levers to do some additional negotiation.

727
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:05,220
But when they're holding firm and not moving,

728
00:59:05,540 --> 00:59:07,260
we have to ask that question.

729
00:59:07,980 --> 00:59:11,860
And we wouldn't want to leave you in a highest situation

730
00:59:11,860 --> 00:59:14,280
without asking that question.

731
00:59:14,660 --> 00:59:15,800
What is their motive?

732
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,420
But is your recommendation act yours?

733
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:21,760
Y'all made it your decision.

734
00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:24,080
And we really don't preach that.

735
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,160
We take your recommendation,

736
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,940
but it's our decision.

737
00:59:29,140 --> 00:59:29,780
Yes sir.

738
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,640
Y'all left us

739
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,480
with a lot of being boxed in.

740
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,440
If we don't two days ago, we could

741
00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:56,240
have y'all made a decision on behalf of our citizens, that is our board, that is

742
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:59,250
the...

743
00:59:59,250 --> 00:59:59,770
Yes sir.

744
01:00:03,370 --> 01:00:28,330
That's my question. The all work for these companies or the all work for us as a broker because, I mean, it appears to me, and this ain't the first time this is at, with the all's company. We had y'all before when it was another name. We had to drop you then and get somebody else because y'all didn't work for us and represent us, and it appears we're not back in the same boat.

745
01:00:28,330 --> 01:00:32,330
And I mean, I've, I'm the granddaddy of the group.

746
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:34,070
I mean, I've been here for 15 years.

747
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:36,530
And I mean, and so I remember them days.

748
01:00:36,830 --> 01:00:38,410
And I mean, and I was promised.

749
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:41,570
If you all get us, this will never happen again.

750
01:00:41,710 --> 01:00:43,870
This is, we reorganize the company.

751
01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:46,130
And here we are in the same boat.

752
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:51,650
And I don't think I've ever approved anything myself.

753
01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:54,690
And I don't think this board has a sanction

754
01:00:54,690 --> 01:00:56,710
of how much it is going to be.

755
01:00:56,710 --> 01:01:02,670
We approve a dollar amount because our auditors and the state of Georgia makes us

756
01:01:03,350 --> 01:01:09,830
Approved something they want to see if see everything that we've approved and it needs to be that amount

757
01:01:09,830 --> 01:01:12,150
Especially when it's hundreds of thousands more

758
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:15,490
I mean, it's I'm very disappointed

759
01:01:15,490 --> 01:01:21,430
And I understand that and I mean and I'm whiteed whiteed till the day after

760
01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:24,530
I mean, that's

761
01:01:24,530 --> 01:01:25,870
That's

762
01:01:25,870 --> 01:01:32,290
things all over in my opinion that I mean it sounds like a set up where they can't do anything

763
01:01:32,290 --> 01:01:38,750
about it so we'll tell them now that this is the deadline's page by one day it just don't look

764
01:01:38,750 --> 01:01:46,690
good. I can reassure you that we don't work for the insurance carriers or any vendor. We're only

765
01:01:46,690 --> 01:01:50,070
making recommendations based on the data that's in front of us.

766
01:01:55,350 --> 01:01:55,850
That's the problem we didn't get the

767
01:01:56,370 --> 01:02:02,800
We should have gotten pregnant, and we should have been able as a part.

768
01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:06,460
You know, we brought us one proposal and said, this is it.

769
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:09,240
You can't believe I guess. That is not bad.

770
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:11,880
If we would have heard this one is lower.

771
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,300
But here's why we think it's lower.

772
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:17,620
We think they're setting you up for a future or whatever.

773
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:18,320
Yes.

774
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,600
And we could have made a decision.

775
01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:22,920
And we could have said, well, let's roll the dots and go with it.

776
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,500
We've got a year lower premium.

777
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:30,500
Then we'll shop it. All we could have said no, we take care, we trust you. We know what you said.

778
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,720
You know, again, I'm disappointed that we found this out.

779
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,400
It's like, you know, when a warranty, you go get a warranty claim on your washing machine.

780
01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:43,420
They're like, well, that warranty ran out yesterday.

781
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:46,770
No, such would be you.

782
01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:52,910
Now that's just how I'm feeling. I'm disappointed that we did not get time.

783
01:02:52,910 --> 01:02:58,510
time, and we wouldn't be having this conversation, and we had this been communicated to

784
01:02:58,510 --> 01:03:04,630
these folks over here two days ago, we could have had an emergency meeting, let's do this,

785
01:03:04,730 --> 01:03:08,030
let's hurry up and meet, we've got to do this, we've got to, we do that all, we get

786
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:15,550
timelines all the time, but, you know, I appreciate you being here and again, I appreciate

787
01:03:15,550 --> 01:03:18,990
you standing here, I don't know that you will be next year,

788
01:03:21,090 --> 01:03:22,870
but because these things

789
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:49,090
I can't continue to happen, and you know, in you acknowledge this was company wide in your company, so apparently other people had problems too, but this is completely disappointing and I don't know where we go from here, I mean to me, we've got pretty much nothing we can do but we're forced to vote on it, we've got to have an insurance for our employees.

790
01:03:49,090 --> 01:03:56,890
And that was my question, do you, what, why do if we voted it down, what, what would happen?

791
01:03:58,250 --> 01:04:01,410
So, if you voted it down, then there would be no stop loss in place.

792
01:04:01,790 --> 01:04:10,030
So, any claims that come in, whether it's up to 100 or 150,000, the county would be responsible for all of those claims.

793
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:19,900
And the laser would go away on those, those three employees because they wouldn't pay nothing.

794
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:27,720
So if you had no stop loss, that means you're fully exposed to, so if you had a million dollar claim,

795
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:34,000
then the county would be responsible for paying that full million dollars, whereas with stop loss being in place,

796
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:39,260
it goes up to that stop loss limit of the $150,000 dollars.

797
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:49,440
So both of you understand the market, or you tell me that there's no company, there's no stop loss company.

798
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,840
that's going to be interested in us other than T.

799
01:04:57,340 --> 01:04:59,020
Well, what we're saying is because-

800
01:04:59,020 --> 01:04:59,960
It's a bright name.

801
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:19,400
Correct, because in order to retroback to 7-1 to your coverage start date, so if there has been any claims in July and in August that have hit that stop loss reimbursement, you can go out and get other stop loss claims, they just won't cover those couple of months that you have that additional exposure.

802
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:29,980
Correct, there is an option, just being transparent and fully honest, it's just in order to go back to 7-1 we would have to approve.

803
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:38,260
the Tokyo Marine contract. I mean, if our employee had to reach out for an invoice, we wouldn't

804
01:05:38,260 --> 01:05:39,480
know nothing about it anyway.

805
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,760
So... Yeah, so on these numbers, you have me thinking here.

806
01:05:47,460 --> 01:05:52,340
So you can't go back two months, right? But how much liability are we, our

807
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:58,900
in other words, is what we're forced to pay, less or more, than the liability we take on by those two

808
01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:05,540
months. Have y'all looked at that. In other words, you know, is it worth us looking out and

809
01:06:05,540 --> 01:06:10,080
saying this is going to happen, but we've incurred this. But that is going to be less than

810
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,080
what you're going to get in a premium by doing that and not just taking what you're forced

811
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:14,440
to take.

812
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:22,520
Because it'd be hard for one of the lower, one of the lower cost stop loss company to eat up

813
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,440
more than that too much. I would imagine.

814
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:30,440
So I would just say you do have some individuals that are being laser that have chronic

815
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:36,480
conditions and they are taking very expensive meds as well as they are receiving

816
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:37,800
the expensive treatment.

817
01:06:38,740 --> 01:06:46,100
So if they could potentially reach 50 or $60,000 in claims in a single month.

818
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,900
Then it's the way we always do. We've been it out every year, right?

819
01:06:53,600 --> 01:07:00,940
Yeah. So I mean, if like you said earlier, if somebody that wasn't counting on them three

820
01:07:00,940 --> 01:07:07,100
people or eight people, however many of their were, then if they did go up next year,

821
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,920
we're going to be re-bending it out and surely whoever was representing us as a broker would

822
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:20,000
with the out of all of them, say 10 or 12 people that that might do it. We could always

823
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,660
move it. I mean, we're not locked into them, but for a year. So, so we can, I mean, there

824
01:07:25,660 --> 01:07:34,720
was companies that didn't use it after it showed up and they didn't red flag them. So, we

825
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,960
could always move it next year, just like we moved it this year, we thought with the best

826
01:07:40,860 --> 01:07:45,220
there's nothing we can do there's no outside the box thanking and please I mean you're

827
01:07:45,220 --> 01:07:51,080
welcome to come up as well I mean you present every year that I've been here and you do

828
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,420
well of that so I don't know that she needs to necessarily be at the mic by herself but

829
01:07:55,420 --> 01:08:03,660
I think I'll take out a baby but but it's in the day there's just nothing we're boxed in

830
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:08,080
I mean there's no outside thinking there's nothing else we could do to try to limit what we're

831
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,420
the worst upon, is that makes sense to you?

832
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,540
It does,

833
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:21,650
but with everything that we've gone back with them removing some of the lasers, that

834
01:08:21,650 --> 01:08:27,770
limited the liability, even with them, with the premium, they actually released a higher premium

835
01:08:27,770 --> 01:08:28,630
dollar amount.

836
01:08:28,670 --> 01:08:31,650
We were able to get them to negotiate down there.

837
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:38,550
Unfortunately, unless we look at doing a short stop loss period, and then rebitting

838
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:40,730
out mid-year because we can do that.

839
01:08:40,990 --> 01:08:43,670
Like I mentioned, my concern is that there's two months

840
01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:46,950
that there's exposure to the county and liability.

841
01:08:47,150 --> 01:08:50,610
I'm not for sure of what that looks like specifically right now.

842
01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:54,630
I just know the high cost claimants that do have those chronic conditions

843
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:58,010
that have left the county exposed at this point.

844
01:08:58,250 --> 01:08:58,310
Well,

845
01:09:04,210 --> 01:09:05,050
I know in any way,

846
01:09:13,980 --> 01:09:15,220
and we can help.

847
01:09:15,460 --> 01:09:20,820
I mean, if we can get the data, I mean, we'll run it through some other agencies

848
01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:22,880
to try to get it, get a better price.

849
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,760
I mean, what I'll think that was two months of stock loss, we still might come out better

850
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,340
for a year of lower premiums versus, let's just take it and tell them what it's at.

851
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:38,620
The only thing is the current contract that's been released, it will expire before that

852
01:09:38,620 --> 01:09:41,540
two week period. That's what we're running up against.

853
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,900
Well, we wouldn't even be here if we had a college. That's another community.

854
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:51,760
Well, I will say we were working on scheduling a meeting internally.

855
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:59,960
It's just, it just so happens your person called us before we call to and I have the email communications that I could show you

856
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:10,460
We were definitely planning to bring this before the team. It's just unfortunate, as I mentioned before, with the timeline and the timing, we were not able to get to you all before him.

857
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:15,390
Yes, sir.

858
01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:19,890
You all have new these numbers for months. Correct?

859
01:10:20,910 --> 01:10:31,990
I mean, yes, I don't want to hear excuses. I don't want to hear the facts of why y'all didn't let us know when let us get a day into it.

860
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:33,930
Well, it's remedies, right, remedies.

861
01:10:34,510 --> 01:10:36,910
Look, at the end of the day, we all make mistakes in life.

862
01:10:37,130 --> 01:10:38,990
It's not the mistake that defines you.

863
01:10:39,650 --> 01:10:41,090
It's only recover from it.

864
01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:43,030
And so mistakes have been made fine.

865
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:43,590
Okay, great.

866
01:10:43,710 --> 01:10:44,850
We can't go back and change those.

867
01:10:44,930 --> 01:10:46,610
But now, what's the recovery look like?

868
01:10:46,990 --> 01:10:49,650
And I think in the recovery situation, which is what we're in now.

869
01:10:49,650 --> 01:10:52,150
It's all hands on deck and let's come up with some great solutions.

870
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:54,230
And let's try to figure out a way to mitigate this.

871
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:55,950
And that's what I'm looking at.

872
01:10:56,130 --> 01:10:58,310
The mistakes have been made great.

873
01:10:58,570 --> 01:11:01,070
You admit to that, we understand we're at.

874
01:11:01,070 --> 01:11:03,890
But it's a recovery that's going to define where we're at.

875
01:11:04,170 --> 01:11:06,050
And it defines you guys as a group, right?

876
01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:10,310
Because your recovery on this could define whether or not you're standing here at the podium next year or not.

877
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:12,730
And right now, to me, that's what's going to matter.

878
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:16,630
It's safe. We own up that we made some mistakes.

879
01:11:16,910 --> 01:11:18,850
But now, here's the recovery process.

880
01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:20,930
It's not just this is it. We can't do anything.

881
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:23,190
Let's go and just pay more.

882
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:24,510
What's that recovery look like?

883
01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:28,710
And I don't think the effort, necessarily, for my perspective, has been put all hands on

884
01:11:28,710 --> 01:11:31,950
that I can recover yet, and that's what I'd like to see.

885
01:11:32,050 --> 01:11:33,030
Who wins the Congress?

886
01:11:37,170 --> 01:11:38,550
The end of this week.

887
01:11:38,650 --> 01:11:39,570
The end of this week?

888
01:11:39,610 --> 01:11:40,450
Yes, sir.

889
01:11:49,020 --> 01:11:51,980
Is there anything possible in that time frame?

890
01:11:52,860 --> 01:11:57,820
Yes, we can go back to see if, like I said, that we can do a shortened contract, just to cover

891
01:11:57,820 --> 01:12:03,740
those initial months, that or if there's any other relief that they've missed in the numbers

892
01:12:03,740 --> 01:12:08,680
when they're looking at any of the fees that are associated with the stop loss contract

893
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,980
as a whole, we can look at if there is an opportunity to also partner.

894
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:20,600
I mentioned UHC because that is your current provider so we can always go back to UHC

895
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,340
if they have a renegotiated contract that they're willing to issue as well.

896
01:12:25,860 --> 01:12:31,460
I can't tell you it will probably be later, it would be like a 8-1 or a 10-1 effective

897
01:12:31,460 --> 01:12:31,840
date.

898
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,700
It wouldn't go back to 7-1.

899
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:34,620
Jennifer,

900
01:12:41,420 --> 01:12:44,440
what is the last day that we have to make

901
01:12:47,260 --> 01:12:47,600
it?

902
01:12:47,620 --> 01:12:49,060
The third Friday,

903
01:12:51,370 --> 01:12:53,990
or the fourth, sorry, the fourth, the Friday.

904
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,560
Oh, what do you think? I mean, we've got a lot of confidence in

905
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:20,720
it.

906
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,540
I would say what we can come up with between now and Friday.

907
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:28,060
Because what I mean, because it has to be sometimes burst like this.

908
01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:29,080
The third day of year.

909
01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:30,920
Melissa would have to call it an advertised.

910
01:13:31,460 --> 01:13:36,040
Okay. And I don't know the time frame of what you can perform that in,

911
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:45,010
But what I've heard here is you've owned NFB's owned up to being here, taking ownership

912
01:13:45,010 --> 01:13:50,930
of the situation, but we as a board are not willing to accept that recommendation right

913
01:13:50,930 --> 01:13:51,410
now.

914
01:13:51,790 --> 01:13:56,730
And what we don't for you to do is, I mean, if you want to keep it in half, I don't think

915
01:13:56,730 --> 01:13:57,790
legally they can do that.

916
01:13:57,950 --> 01:13:59,190
I mean, that's the kind of thing.

917
01:13:59,410 --> 01:14:01,870
Yeah, y'all are on that to a great and we do appreciate that.

918
01:14:01,930 --> 01:14:01,990
Yeah.

919
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:03,350
It's for asking us to front the deal.

920
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:09,150
But what I hear you say, and you've made that recommendation, but we're asking for a different

921
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:14,470
solution. Work with my administrative team and come up with that solution and rectify the situation.

922
01:14:15,530 --> 01:14:20,930
And give you some numbers based on claims and over the last two months, and make a better

923
01:14:20,930 --> 01:14:24,790
informed decision whenever we do make that recommendation. That's what I'll pay for that.

924
01:14:28,350 --> 01:14:29,870
Yeah, I'll

925
01:14:29,870 --> 01:14:35,770
where she had to rescind the previous motion, but I told Jennifer earlier, I said, this

926
01:14:35,770 --> 01:14:39,650
is nothing personal, she is a delightful person, and it has hard work for her, I make

927
01:14:39,650 --> 01:14:45,890
my her as well. They're just the ones here, right? There's a lot of hands that touched

928
01:14:45,890 --> 01:14:52,470
this. Oh, absolutely. I said, I'm going to do a job, and forgive me if you don't let my

929
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:59,250
tone that I'm going to make my point. Well, let me say this. I spent 20 years in government.

930
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,520
Local month 13 years within F.P. shall hankens. And I say this to everybody in a dandrol, and even commissioners, council

931
01:15:11,020 --> 01:15:17,100
people, we're not just a part of the solution for your health care and affordability, but it's

932
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:22,760
a larger line item typically in a public entity's budget. So what we bring to you and you

933
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:28,860
brought up the difference of 115,000. You have to be accountable for that. And as much as we try

934
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:35,800
address affordability, solutions that are creative, into the day we're also part of that

935
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:42,260
situation that we don't want to put people in his situation, in his role having to ask for

936
01:15:42,260 --> 01:15:47,800
a middle-aging increase. And then you have to have hearings in the public, here's that. And we're

937
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,660
all the teams of what's going on in the communities across the state of Georgia, everybody's

938
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:57,560
up in arms about it. So we feel a big part of that, and again, if we can come back and come up

939
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:05,300
the solution that resolves this 115,000, and even hopefully even more, we're all better

940
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:05,740
off.

941
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:10,500
It's an empty, but you, as a county, and for your employees to.

942
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,860
I want you to appreciate that, but thank you very much.

943
01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:14,700
How you make that notice, I'm not saying that.

944
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:15,480
Second.

945
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,560
Do you understand your motion?

946
01:16:18,340 --> 01:16:23,340
So we're just going to present the motion and type on this until you send your motion to

947
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:28,300
and the right and second, the rest end, the second and the second.

948
01:16:28,660 --> 01:16:32,080
And the next motion will be the table as the next by the week.

949
01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:35,180
Okay, I'll resend the motion to approve.

950
01:16:35,860 --> 01:16:38,100
And I'll second the motion to resend.

951
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:40,720
And now like the motion.

952
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,040
So yes, I'll make a motion to table.

953
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:54,610
Well, like a motion to table it until we can have the next meeting.

954
01:16:54,610 --> 01:17:01,210
the next week, and I second that much.

955
01:17:01,570 --> 01:17:03,890
And we like it would be good to serve from this hand.

956
01:17:07,450 --> 01:17:09,030
Mr. Thart? Yes.

957
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:10,130
Chairman Henry? Yes.

958
01:17:10,130 --> 01:17:11,970
Mr. Harris? Yes. Mr. Arlong?

959
01:17:12,150 --> 01:17:12,410
Yes.

960
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:14,690
Thank you both for being here. Thank you.

961
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:15,270
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

962
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:16,430
We do appreciate it.

963
01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:19,170
I hold out high hope for a good recovery.

964
01:17:20,590 --> 01:17:20,890
Thank you.

965
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:37,030
Hopefully this will be a little more straightforward.

966
01:17:38,730 --> 01:17:46,070
This is the, in connection with our jail expansion project, there's going to be storm water detention required.

967
01:17:46,690 --> 01:17:51,310
And it's in the city of Bringo, the city of Bringo has the same policy as the county.

968
01:17:51,370 --> 01:17:56,590
And I think the city of Port O before they don't maintain private detention or storm water facilities.

969
01:17:57,210 --> 01:18:05,390
So they send over to Josh and to CTI believe our, their standard storm water maintenance agreement.

970
01:18:05,390 --> 01:18:10,390
and it requires water approval just saying we, the county, will maintain the storm water facilities.

971
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:13,890
I've got a motion to approve.

972
01:18:14,450 --> 01:18:14,890
I'll move.

973
01:18:15,610 --> 01:18:16,230
I'll second.

974
01:18:16,890 --> 01:18:17,530
Got any questions?

975
01:18:19,670 --> 01:18:20,150
Miss Hannah?

976
01:18:20,910 --> 01:18:21,470
Mr. Ithart?

977
01:18:21,970 --> 01:18:22,210
Yes.

978
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:23,010
Here I'm in Henry.

979
01:18:23,850 --> 01:18:24,670
Mr. Harris?

980
01:18:24,850 --> 01:18:25,370
Yes.

981
01:18:25,370 --> 01:18:25,470
Yes.

982
01:18:27,290 --> 01:18:28,290
Thank you, Chair.

983
01:18:42,510 --> 01:18:45,990
Dad, are you coming back at the...

984
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:48,590
I want to start.

985
01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:51,210
Well, I'm sorry, a nine, six, nine, that's right.

986
01:18:51,250 --> 01:18:52,430
I was violent too.

987
01:18:53,890 --> 01:18:57,310
As the Board of Commissioners are where you awarded a contract,

988
01:18:57,490 --> 01:19:01,830
a while back regarding the intersection at what I call

989
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:05,990
Dates and Boughton, Vernon Bush, and what is that?

990
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:11,370
A bridge road there, and the poll in the South East corner

991
01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:15,930
needed to be replaced to a concrete poll.

992
01:19:15,930 --> 01:19:25,790
And we didn't find out about that until later on and, of course, after looking at it, it was pretty obvious that it needed to go from a wood pole to a concrete pole.

993
01:19:26,430 --> 01:19:35,070
The initial price that we had received from North Georgia MC was $40,000 after the last work session I believe.

994
01:19:35,330 --> 01:19:44,910
Commission Chairman Henry reached out to North Georgia, MCs, President and CEO, and they have come back with an offer of $20,000 for the pole.

995
01:19:44,910 --> 01:19:52,450
And the 40,000 did not include a rock clause, so if they hit rock, imagine hitting rock in Katusa County, right?

996
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:59,970
If they hit rock, it would be additional cops. So this is a good deal for us to move that forward and I bull.

997
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,780
I believe that our projects administrator Josh Smith has reached out to the contractor and may be our engineers

998
01:20:06,780 --> 01:20:13,040
Phillips, go feel who's here with CTI and it works well with the contractor's schedule as well,

999
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:20,120
so this is all worked out pretty well. We would appreciate the approval of the $20,000 and they are in the process

1000
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:26,560
from what I understand and preparing an agreement to allow us to attach to that puddle as well.

1001
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,800
I got a motion to approve.

1002
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:29,840
I'm making motion.

1003
01:20:30,020 --> 01:20:30,440
We approve?

1004
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,080
Okay.

1005
01:20:32,220 --> 01:20:33,020
Any questions?

1006
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,180
I want a real day and a fired up and I get that.

1007
01:20:36,900 --> 01:20:37,840
I like to think.

1008
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,500
When did you know about this poll day?

1009
01:20:40,780 --> 01:20:42,400
We was last time you heard about that.

1010
01:20:42,420 --> 01:20:44,180
I've heard about this poll for months.

1011
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,700
And we've been trying to get a price from said company for months.

1012
01:20:50,860 --> 01:20:50,960
Yeah.

1013
01:20:51,220 --> 01:20:52,020
It's been a while.

1014
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:53,620
Got a lot of things.

1015
01:20:53,620 --> 01:20:59,320
Chairman Henry for contacting him even though it's four o'clock in the morning you contact some of them

1016
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,680
But yeah, maybe you need to do that to our interest broker give them come up for them

1017
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:13,180
Thank you for I gladly share all their cell phones for you. Thank you for working to deal out with absolutely

1018
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:18,860
And the president was glad to work with us

1019
01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:31,300
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you, Commissioner.

1020
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,760
That's how you made return.

1021
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,580
I usually, Melissa, I only make people stand outside by me.

1022
01:21:41,580 --> 01:21:43,600
Ah, she had it in order for the record.

1023
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,500
Yeah, she had it in order in her defense. The county manager slipped that one in.

1024
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:55,140
The first item I have, and the next two items really are the same subject matter, they're

1025
01:21:55,140 --> 01:22:01,680
two abandoned or potentially abandoned, unopened rod of waves, so we run into this several

1026
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,540
times in the county.

1027
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:08,160
The first situation is over in Boyd Highland subdivision, plated in, I think, the last

1028
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,540
plant was maybe 1961.

1029
01:22:10,620 --> 01:22:15,460
There are a couple of roads showing on that plant, I think I got them, inversively, their

1030
01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:22,140
as Midway Drive and East Highland Terrace of confirmed with public works, they don't exist

1031
01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:28,440
on the ground, there's no intent to open those and there's a one property owner who owns

1032
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:34,760
property that's not part of the subdivision but accesses their property across part of this road.

1033
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:40,640
And they've requested that the county consider abandoning the public interest in opening these

1034
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:47,620
roads. So the first step in the process is for the board to adopt a resolution that puts a notice

1035
01:22:47,620 --> 01:22:54,620
in the newspaper and has a send all of the adjoining owners that might be affected letters,

1036
01:22:54,860 --> 01:22:58,940
letting them know that the board of commissioners will consider this matter and has to run in

1037
01:22:58,940 --> 01:23:06,560
the paper for two weeks. So the way the meeting schedule falls this month, it wouldn't be on the

1038
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:12,680
the first October meeting and you would have a public hearing anyone who wanted to object or

1039
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:18,200
speak is available to do so and then the board can take action but this is just to put the

1040
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,460
notice in the paper.

1041
01:23:24,980 --> 01:23:27,420
I'll second.

1042
01:23:30,420 --> 01:23:35,940
That's correct. It's been highlighted in yellow. Then there's

1043
01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:39,240
alone that kind of runs along the side or the back of some of those

1044
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:39,820
lots.

1045
01:23:47,740 --> 01:23:49,260
The idea of your questions for that

1046
01:23:53,580 --> 01:23:54,580
or out on the

1047
01:23:54,580 --> 01:23:59,680
engine or like what happens in that chat I mean if it goes through

1048
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,700
think that that area that was intentional when it was originally

1049
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:07,800
designed was roads so what happens to that property?

1050
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:11,620
Well that's between the owners that's a private civil matter in other

1051
01:24:11,620 --> 01:24:16,480
words two things on the the next one is a little different but this one

1052
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:18,740
When you have an old subdivision plant, there's two things.

1053
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,100
It's an implied dedication to the governing authority.

1054
01:24:22,660 --> 01:24:25,260
It doesn't mean you accept it as a road just because it's planted,

1055
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:28,140
and that's how we have road standards and inspections and so forth.

1056
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,320
But all the owners and that have lots on that plant

1057
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,820
and that subdivision have private easement rights in those roads.

1058
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,180
So before any one person could claim it over the other,

1059
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,760
that have to do a clot-tot-o-action in a spiritual court to see if anybody

1060
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:49,420
wanted to lay claim to it or anything like that. Sure,

1061
01:24:54,620 --> 01:24:55,860
you're up, yeah I'd like it.

1062
01:24:55,940 --> 01:24:58,480
Can the surf our? Yes. You're in the hinder? Yes.

1063
01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:59,840
Mr. Harris? Yes.

1064
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:31,450
And the next item is, almost exactly the same as the first, except this is not an old plight at subdivision. This is where a broader wood Baptist church was, a broader wood Baptist church. Now I've been acquired by Silverdale. In doing their surveying, Ella Springdrowed goes up off of Battlefield Parkway. And at some point it becomes La Ferry Lane and goes up to serve some houses. And they're the surveyor picked up that at some point in the past, a road, a road, a road, a road, a road, a road, a road, a road, a road, a road

1065
01:25:31,450 --> 01:25:37,450
extends along the, I guess that would be the west property line there of the church that they

1066
01:25:37,450 --> 01:25:45,290
show as an unopened public rotoboy and the church is asking that we consider abandoning it also

1067
01:25:45,290 --> 01:25:50,450
or the public trots in it, so then they can, they'd have a clear claim to it because it's on

1068
01:25:50,450 --> 01:25:54,290
their property but that would be down the road at the board considers it.

1069
01:25:54,290 --> 01:25:55,810
we have a motion to put.

1070
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:58,650
I'm like a motion to put for a second.

1071
01:25:58,770 --> 01:26:00,090
What's that?

1072
01:26:01,350 --> 01:26:04,220
Is there a thirt?

1073
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:05,560
Is there a human in her?

1074
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:06,260
Yes.

1075
01:26:06,260 --> 01:26:07,100
Is there a heris?

1076
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:07,620
Yes.

1077
01:26:10,500 --> 01:26:12,260
Is there a commester in the comments?

1078
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,920
Number one, please don't like about any insurance.

1079
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,200
I think that's enough to that.

1080
01:26:17,780 --> 01:26:24,060
Like our staff are looking in and dealing with these insurance and we're going to

1081
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:29,440
to our teaching and I know you all look at a lot more this week.

1082
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,640
Yes, Dan.

1083
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,680
Thank you for staying on top of this.

1084
01:26:37,900 --> 01:26:39,020
It's best you could.

1085
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,040
You didn't know what you were on top of it.

1086
01:26:43,140 --> 01:26:47,280
Also, just want to remember Charlie Stevens and our prayers.

1087
01:26:47,820 --> 01:26:50,400
I'm going to his health issues.

1088
01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:53,400
Just remember him and his family.

1089
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,340
Same thing.

1090
01:26:56,340 --> 01:27:00,540
Just that's all I want to echo, I think everybody else knows that we appreciate everything

1091
01:27:00,540 --> 01:27:04,680
they're doing for us every day, Chief everybody in the county, I appreciate everything

1092
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:09,560
but yeah, prayers for Charlie, that was a little hot tonight, not to have to have to have

1093
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,660
only go first, I missed him tonight, for sure, lots of prayers are winning.

1094
01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:18,000
I'm sure you all remember John Pleasant, I'm on to Andy's mom.

1095
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:25,360
A lot of things going out in there, we get caught up around a little bubbles when you remember those around us.

1096
01:27:26,890 --> 01:27:31,430
All right, I guess we got to take this session unless I can buy my way out of

1097
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:34,320
it.

1098
01:27:34,580 --> 01:27:35,780
You've got to cover the insurance loan.

1099
01:27:35,780 --> 01:27:37,340
Well, the number don't have to be accurate.

1100
01:27:37,580 --> 01:27:38,820
We can go to the agency.

1101
01:27:38,820 --> 01:27:40,260
It's not something else.

1102
01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:42,960
Yeah, I like it.

1103
01:27:43,340 --> 01:27:44,420
So we don't have that.

1104
01:27:44,420 --> 01:27:48,580
I need to both avoid this session for legal land and personnel place.

1105
01:27:48,860 --> 01:27:49,300
Oh, move.

1106
01:27:51,180 --> 01:27:52,500
Unless we do get a roll call.

1107
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:53,840
Mr. and Hart?

1108
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:54,360
Yes.

1109
01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:55,100
Chairman Henry?

1110
01:27:55,740 --> 01:27:56,420
Mr. and Harris?

1111
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:57,160
Yes.

1112
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:57,860
Yes.

1113
01:27:58,380 --> 01:27:58,980
We are.