[0:00] Whether we're high
[0:03] Whether we're high
[0:03] Whether we're high
or low
[0:15] 
[0:15] as weed
[0:17] as weed
[0:17] as weed
streete
[0:30] 
[0:30] Never miss
[0:40] 
[0:40] under the sick of your tree.
[0:44] under the sick of your tree.
[0:44] under the sick of your tree.
Whether we're high
[0:47] Whether we're high
[0:48] Whether we're high
or low,
[0:51] or low,
[0:51] or low,
there's nohere else I want.
[0:56] there's nohere else I want.
[0:56] there's nohere else I want.
And if you lie
[0:59] And if you lie
[0:59] And if you lie
with me,
[1:07] 
[1:07] Whether we're high
[1:10] Whether we're high
[1:10] Whether we're high
or low
[1:18] 
[1:18] with
[1:24] 
[1:24] Walk with me.
[1:45] 
[1:45] Heat. Heat.
[3:29] 
[3:29] Heat. Heat.
[5:11] 
[5:11] All right, good evening everybody and
[5:12] All right, good evening everybody and
[5:12] All right, good evening everybody and
welcome to tonight's City of Cedar Falls
[5:14] welcome to tonight's City of Cedar Falls
[5:14] welcome to tonight's City of Cedar Falls
City Council meeting for Monday, October
[5:16] City Council meeting for Monday, October
[5:16] City Council meeting for Monday, October
5th. I will call this meeting in order.
[5:18] 5th. I will call this meeting in order.
[5:18] 5th. I will call this meeting in order.
Madame clerk, roll call, please.
[5:20] Madame clerk, roll call, please.
[5:20] Madame clerk, roll call, please.
Schultz
[5:20] Schultz
[5:20] Schultz
here.
[5:21] here.
[5:21] here.
Lada
[5:21] Lada
[5:21] Lada
here.
[5:21] here.
[5:22] here.
Ngo
[5:22] Ngo
[5:22] Ngo
here.
[5:23] here.
[5:23] here.
Paul Baker
[5:23] Paul Baker
[5:23] Paul Baker
here.
[5:24] here.
[5:24] here.
Fairbanks
[5:26] Fairbanks
[5:26] Fairbanks
here.
[5:28] here.
[5:28] here.
Chrisman
[5:29] Chrisman
[5:29] Chrisman
here.
[5:29] here.
[5:29] here.
Done
[5:30] Done
[5:30] Done
here. Members present. Mr. Mayor.
[5:32] here. Members present. Mr. Mayor.
[5:32] here. Members present. Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, Madam Clerk. And if everyone
[5:34] Thank you, Madam Clerk. And if everyone
[5:34] Thank you, Madam Clerk. And if everyone
is a willing and able, could you please
[5:35] is a willing and able, could you please
[5:35] is a willing and able, could you please
stand for the pledge of allegiance?
[5:40] 
[5:40] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[5:42] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[5:42] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America. and to the
[5:45] United States of America. and to the
[5:45] United States of America. and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation
[5:48] republic for which it stands, one nation
[5:48] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[5:51] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[5:51] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
[5:55] 
[5:55] All right. Thank you everyone. I'll look
[5:58] All right. Thank you everyone. I'll look
[5:58] All right. Thank you everyone. I'll look
for a motion to approve the regular
[5:59] for a motion to approve the regular
[5:59] for a motion to approve the regular
meeting minutes of September 21st.
[6:01] meeting minutes of September 21st.
[6:01] meeting minutes of September 21st.
So moved.
[6:02] So moved.
[6:02] So moved.
Second.
[6:03] Second.
[6:03] Second.
Motion seconded. Any discussion from
[6:05] Motion seconded. Any discussion from
[6:05] Motion seconded. Any discussion from
councel?
[6:07] councel?
[6:07] councel?
Seeing none, any from the public? All in
[6:09] Seeing none, any from the public? All in
[6:10] Seeing none, any from the public? All in
favor?
[6:10] favor?
[6:10] favor?
I.
[6:11] I.
[6:11] I.
All opposed? That motion carries. Madam
[6:14] All opposed? That motion carries. Madam
[6:14] All opposed? That motion carries. Madam
clerk, any agenda revisions?
[6:15] clerk, any agenda revisions?
[6:15] clerk, any agenda revisions?
I have no written agenda revisions, Mr.
[6:17] I have no written agenda revisions, Mr.
[6:17] I have no written agenda revisions, Mr.
Mayor.
[6:17] Mayor.
[6:17] Mayor.
Thank you. And that will take us public
[6:19] Thank you. And that will take us public
[6:19] Thank you. And that will take us public
forum. Speakers will have one
[6:20] forum. Speakers will have one
[6:20] forum. Speakers will have one
opportunity to speak for up to five
[6:21] opportunity to speak for up to five
[6:21] opportunity to speak for up to five
minutes on topics relevant to city
[6:23] minutes on topics relevant to city
[6:23] minutes on topics relevant to city
business. If there's an item on the
[6:24] business. If there's an item on the
[6:24] business. If there's an item on the
agenda later in the evening, you can
[6:26] agenda later in the evening, you can
[6:26] agenda later in the evening, you can
please wait for that item. We'll approve
[6:27] please wait for that item. We'll approve
[6:27] please wait for that item. We'll approve
it then. But otherwise, anything else
[6:29] it then. But otherwise, anything else
[6:29] it then. But otherwise, anything else
relevant to city business tonight.
[6:34] 
[6:34] Name address, please.
[6:35] Name address, please.
[6:35] Name address, please.
Daryl Cruz, 2725 Minnotonka Drive in
[6:39] Daryl Cruz, 2725 Minnotonka Drive in
[6:39] Daryl Cruz, 2725 Minnotonka Drive in
Cedar Falls. Mr. Mayor, council, staff.
[6:42] Cedar Falls. Mr. Mayor, council, staff.
[6:42] Cedar Falls. Mr. Mayor, council, staff.
Um, for some of you, I'm following up on
[6:45] Um, for some of you, I'm following up on
[6:45] Um, for some of you, I'm following up on
a second email, which was a follow-up to
[6:47] a second email, which was a follow-up to
[6:47] a second email, which was a follow-up to
a December uh 18th or 19th email at the
[6:50] a December uh 18th or 19th email at the
[6:50] a December uh 18th or 19th email at the
end of 25 having to do with the Second
[6:54] end of 25 having to do with the Second
[6:54] end of 25 having to do with the Second
Street parking lot that we're uh doing
[6:56] Street parking lot that we're uh doing
[6:56] Street parking lot that we're uh doing
right now. Um
[6:59] right now. Um
[6:59] right now. Um
in um 2019 we had WGI
[7:05] in um 2019 we had WGI
[7:05] in um 2019 we had WGI
hired at something like a 100,000 plus
[7:07] hired at something like a 100,000 plus
[7:07] hired at something like a 100,000 plus
to um give a really good review of all
[7:11] to um give a really good review of all
[7:11] to um give a really good review of all
the parking downtown, College Hill,
[7:14] the parking downtown, College Hill,
[7:14] the parking downtown, College Hill,
parking lots, all sorts of stuff. Um and
[7:19] parking lots, all sorts of stuff. Um and
[7:19] parking lots, all sorts of stuff. Um and
one of the things that they uh mentioned
[7:21] one of the things that they uh mentioned
[7:21] one of the things that they uh mentioned
that parking lots when you build them
[7:24] that parking lots when you build them
[7:24] that parking lots when you build them
the ingress, egress, entrance, exit and
[7:27] the ingress, egress, entrance, exit and
[7:27] the ingress, egress, entrance, exit and
turnaround should be in the street.
[7:29] turnaround should be in the street.
[7:29] turnaround should be in the street.
Okay. And what we're building right now,
[7:32] Okay. And what we're building right now,
[7:32] Okay. And what we're building right now,
we have a horseshoe design internally in
[7:35] we have a horseshoe design internally in
[7:35] we have a horseshoe design internally in
the parking lot. It's taking about what
[7:38] the parking lot. It's taking about what
[7:38] the parking lot. It's taking about what
could be six parking spots
[7:41] could be six parking spots
[7:41] could be six parking spots
uh from a general straight through
[7:43] uh from a general straight through
[7:43] uh from a general straight through
design. In my email from uh December
[7:47] design. In my email from uh December
[7:47] design. In my email from uh December
2025, I had examples of the parking lot.
[7:50] 2025, I had examples of the parking lot.
[7:50] 2025, I had examples of the parking lot.
I think it's parking lot H possibly
[7:52] I think it's parking lot H possibly
[7:52] I think it's parking lot H possibly
behind um Tony's up there where you you
[7:57] behind um Tony's up there where you you
[7:57] behind um Tony's up there where you you
come out to the street, turn around and
[7:58] come out to the street, turn around and
[7:58] come out to the street, turn around and
come back into the next aisle.
[8:01] come back into the next aisle.
[8:01] come back into the next aisle.
And I'm bringing this up because we pay
[8:04] And I'm bringing this up because we pay
[8:04] And I'm bringing this up because we pay
a consultant to
[8:07] a consultant to
[8:07] a consultant to
give us advice and we ignored it
[8:10] give us advice and we ignored it
[8:10] give us advice and we ignored it
apparently for some reason. I I guess
[8:12] apparently for some reason. I I guess
[8:12] apparently for some reason. I I guess
I'd like to know why.
[8:14] I'd like to know why.
[8:14] I'd like to know why.
Uh some problems with the horseshoe
[8:16] Uh some problems with the horseshoe
[8:16] Uh some problems with the horseshoe
design as I call it in and out on the
[8:18] design as I call it in and out on the
[8:18] design as I call it in and out on the
off second street. You have uh the six
[8:22] off second street. You have uh the six
[8:22] off second street. You have uh the six
parking stalls I mentioned. We got to
[8:23] parking stalls I mentioned. We got to
[8:23] parking stalls I mentioned. We got to
take some from the street. If we would
[8:24] take some from the street. If we would
[8:24] take some from the street. If we would
come out onto Third Street, we'd lose a
[8:27] come out onto Third Street, we'd lose a
[8:27] come out onto Third Street, we'd lose a
couple there, but the net gain would be
[8:28] couple there, but the net gain would be
[8:28] couple there, but the net gain would be
about four.
[8:31] about four.
[8:31] about four.
Uh citizens, I think, would be confused
[8:34] Uh citizens, I think, would be confused
[8:34] Uh citizens, I think, would be confused
as the design is set there. Do they want
[8:37] as the design is set there. Do they want
[8:37] as the design is set there. Do they want
to come in and drive the entirety of the
[8:39] to come in and drive the entirety of the
[8:39] to come in and drive the entirety of the
horseshoe? They're going to say, "I want
[8:41] horseshoe? They're going to say, "I want
[8:41] horseshoe? They're going to say, "I want
to go back out that way. quicker the way
[8:43] to go back out that way. quicker the way
[8:44] to go back out that way. quicker the way
they came in potentially. That sort of
[8:45] they came in potentially. That sort of
[8:45] they came in potentially. That sort of
thing. Human behavior is what it is.
[8:47] thing. Human behavior is what it is.
[8:47] thing. Human behavior is what it is.
It's going to probably happen. But snow
[8:50] It's going to probably happen. But snow
[8:50] It's going to probably happen. But snow
removal, large dump trucks, skid
[8:53] removal, large dump trucks, skid
[8:53] removal, large dump trucks, skid
loaders, end loaders, whatever we have
[8:54] loaders, end loaders, whatever we have
[8:54] loaders, end loaders, whatever we have
to use, fire trucks, ambulance getting
[8:57] to use, fire trucks, ambulance getting
[8:57] to use, fire trucks, ambulance getting
stuck in there if there's a emergency,
[9:01] stuck in there if there's a emergency,
[9:01] stuck in there if there's a emergency,
uh that sort of thing. So, I think what
[9:05] uh that sort of thing. So, I think what
[9:05] uh that sort of thing. So, I think what
the consultant gave us for advice is
[9:07] the consultant gave us for advice is
[9:07] the consultant gave us for advice is
worthy of a good study. And the south
[9:11] worthy of a good study. And the south
[9:11] worthy of a good study. And the south
end of the parking lot is not um
[9:14] end of the parking lot is not um
[9:14] end of the parking lot is not um
finished. It's gravel. Uh it's getting
[9:16] finished. It's gravel. Uh it's getting
[9:16] finished. It's gravel. Uh it's getting
ready to be to the next step. But um I I
[9:21] ready to be to the next step. But um I I
[9:21] ready to be to the next step. But um I I
guess mainly I'd like to know why we
[9:23] guess mainly I'd like to know why we
[9:23] guess mainly I'd like to know why we
ignored the advice of the consultant. Um
[9:27] ignored the advice of the consultant. Um
[9:28] ignored the advice of the consultant. Um
when I watched the uh replay of the
[9:30] when I watched the uh replay of the
[9:30] when I watched the uh replay of the
February 2019 presentation from the
[9:33] February 2019 presentation from the
[9:33] February 2019 presentation from the
consultant, it was kind of ironic. one
[9:35] consultant, it was kind of ironic. one
[9:35] consultant, it was kind of ironic. one
of the city councilors at the time said,
[9:38] of the city councilors at the time said,
[9:38] of the city councilors at the time said,
"Every square foot of land is valuable
[9:40] "Every square foot of land is valuable
[9:40] "Every square foot of land is valuable
downtown,
[9:42] downtown,
[9:42] downtown,
right down to the square foot. It's not
[9:44] right down to the square foot. It's not
[9:44] right down to the square foot. It's not
too late to change. Uh change orders
[9:47] too late to change. Uh change orders
[9:48] too late to change. Uh change orders
happened all the time on University
[9:49] happened all the time on University
[9:49] happened all the time on University
Avenue quite a bit actually. Uh other
[9:52] Avenue quite a bit actually. Uh other
[9:52] Avenue quite a bit actually. Uh other
projects,
[9:54] projects,
[9:54] projects,
but uh take a look at designing the
[9:57] but uh take a look at designing the
[9:57] but uh take a look at designing the
south end of it to have ingress, egress,
[10:00] south end of it to have ingress, egress,
[10:00] south end of it to have ingress, egress,
straight through aisles. One goes one
[10:02] straight through aisles. One goes one
[10:02] straight through aisles. One goes one
way, one goes the other way. uh simple
[10:05] way, one goes the other way. uh simple
[10:05] way, one goes the other way. uh simple
for snowplow, egress, uh everything else
[10:07] for snowplow, egress, uh everything else
[10:08] for snowplow, egress, uh everything else
I mentioned. So,
[10:10] I mentioned. So,
[10:10] I mentioned. So,
um
[10:13] um
[10:13] um
oh, one little minor thing
[10:15] oh, one little minor thing
[10:15] oh, one little minor thing
about a year and a half or so ago, we
[10:18] about a year and a half or so ago, we
[10:18] about a year and a half or so ago, we
debated the neighborhood design where we
[10:21] debated the neighborhood design where we
[10:21] debated the neighborhood design where we
wanted short blocks and ease of access
[10:24] wanted short blocks and ease of access
[10:24] wanted short blocks and ease of access
and ready access for emergency vehicles
[10:26] and ready access for emergency vehicles
[10:26] and ready access for emergency vehicles
and whatnot. And here we're kind of
[10:28] and whatnot. And here we're kind of
[10:28] and whatnot. And here we're kind of
contradicting that by putting in that
[10:30] contradicting that by putting in that
[10:30] contradicting that by putting in that
horseshoe. So, so those are my thoughts.
[10:34] horseshoe. So, so those are my thoughts.
[10:34] horseshoe. So, so those are my thoughts.
So, welcome to debate anybody.
[10:38] So, welcome to debate anybody.
[10:38] So, welcome to debate anybody.
Thank you.
[10:39] Thank you.
[10:39] Thank you.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Cruz.
[10:42] All right. Thank you, Mr. Cruz.
[10:42] All right. Thank you, Mr. Cruz.
Anyone else for public comment this
[10:44] Anyone else for public comment this
[10:44] Anyone else for public comment this
evening?
[10:50] 
[10:50] Just name and address, please.
[10:51] Just name and address, please.
[10:51] Just name and address, please.
Kim Jordan, 2018 Minnotonka Drive, Cedar
[10:55] Kim Jordan, 2018 Minnotonka Drive, Cedar
[10:55] Kim Jordan, 2018 Minnotonka Drive, Cedar
Falls. Um just looking at again um how
[11:02] Falls. Um just looking at again um how
[11:02] Falls. Um just looking at again um how
we've set up a few of our amenities and
[11:05] we've set up a few of our amenities and
[11:05] we've set up a few of our amenities and
looking at our identity of Cedar Falls
[11:07] looking at our identity of Cedar Falls
[11:07] looking at our identity of Cedar Falls
and I know that we've got a big contract
[11:10] and I know that we've got a big contract
[11:10] and I know that we've got a big contract
that we're looking at to kind of explore
[11:14] that we're looking at to kind of explore
[11:14] that we're looking at to kind of explore
and tell us who we are. And yet looking
[11:17] and tell us who we are. And yet looking
[11:17] and tell us who we are. And yet looking
at the amenities and the the services
[11:19] at the amenities and the the services
[11:19] at the amenities and the the services
that we provide really indicate a lot as
[11:23] that we provide really indicate a lot as
[11:23] that we provide really indicate a lot as
to what people of the tax base really
[11:26] to what people of the tax base really
[11:26] to what people of the tax base really
like and expect to kind of come and
[11:30] like and expect to kind of come and
[11:30] like and expect to kind of come and
have. Um so with that the contentment
[11:34] have. Um so with that the contentment
[11:34] have. Um so with that the contentment
part like where where do we find that
[11:39] part like where where do we find that
[11:39] part like where where do we find that
what we already have is
[11:43] what we already have is
[11:43] what we already have is
good
[11:44] good
[11:44] good
and it's on us on our walk of life to
[11:48] and it's on us on our walk of life to
[11:48] and it's on us on our walk of life to
maintain it and know how we were
[11:52] maintain it and know how we were
[11:52] maintain it and know how we were
receiving it and with the intention of
[11:54] receiving it and with the intention of
[11:54] receiving it and with the intention of
that
[11:56] that
[11:56] that
that into our possession. what we do to
[11:59] that into our possession. what we do to
[11:59] that into our possession. what we do to
grow and flourish it and whether it's
[12:03] grow and flourish it and whether it's
[12:03] grow and flourish it and whether it's
cosmetic updates that need community
[12:07] cosmetic updates that need community
[12:07] cosmetic updates that need community
involvement and which I think draws and
[12:10] involvement and which I think draws and
[12:10] involvement and which I think draws and
makes us more of an appealing city when
[12:12] makes us more of an appealing city when
[12:12] makes us more of an appealing city when
we come together and we're fundraising
[12:14] we come together and we're fundraising
[12:14] we come together and we're fundraising
and we are trying to actively save and
[12:17] and we are trying to actively save and
[12:17] and we are trying to actively save and
participate in in not losing but
[12:21] participate in in not losing but
[12:21] participate in in not losing but
providing and expanding the need because
[12:24] providing and expanding the need because
[12:24] providing and expanding the need because
any loss of service any minute that we
[12:27] any loss of service any minute that we
[12:27] any loss of service any minute that we
aren't doing something transforms
[12:30] aren't doing something transforms
[12:30] aren't doing something transforms
negatively in a lot. You look at
[12:32] negatively in a lot. You look at
[12:32] negatively in a lot. You look at
Crossroads, for example, there's a lot
[12:35] Crossroads, for example, there's a lot
[12:35] Crossroads, for example, there's a lot
of revenue dollars that are not coming
[12:36] of revenue dollars that are not coming
[12:36] of revenue dollars that are not coming
into that right now. That's on the plate
[12:38] into that right now. That's on the plate
[12:38] into that right now. That's on the plate
for tonight. The hospital is going to be
[12:41] for tonight. The hospital is going to be
[12:41] for tonight. The hospital is going to be
a passion of mine probably until my very
[12:44] a passion of mine probably until my very
[12:44] a passion of mine probably until my very
last breath because that I can see as
[12:48] last breath because that I can see as
[12:48] last breath because that I can see as
something that was greater than any of
[12:50] something that was greater than any of
[12:50] something that was greater than any of
us here could even have imagined when
[12:53] us here could even have imagined when
[12:53] us here could even have imagined when
the whole city was being built as to how
[12:56] the whole city was being built as to how
[12:56] the whole city was being built as to how
it could have been perpetuated
[12:57] it could have been perpetuated
[12:57] it could have been perpetuated
throughout every walk in every
[13:00] throughout every walk in every
[13:00] throughout every walk in every
generation that we have and looking at
[13:03] generation that we have and looking at
[13:03] generation that we have and looking at
how those gifts like the Bell's Farm
[13:05] how those gifts like the Bell's Farm
[13:05] how those gifts like the Bell's Farm
Trust and we just had property taxes.
[13:08] Trust and we just had property taxes.
[13:08] Trust and we just had property taxes.
how we just paid $5,982
[13:13] how we just paid $5,982
[13:13] how we just paid $5,982
to Grundy County, but we have that money
[13:17] to Grundy County, but we have that money
[13:17] to Grundy County, but we have that money
or that generated amount of land that we
[13:21] or that generated amount of land that we
[13:21] or that generated amount of land that we
own that's coming into our Cedar Falls
[13:23] own that's coming into our Cedar Falls
[13:23] own that's coming into our Cedar Falls
Health Trust that was Sartori's feed
[13:27] Health Trust that was Sartori's feed
[13:27] Health Trust that was Sartori's feed
shouldn't have been taken away. looking
[13:30] shouldn't have been taken away. looking
[13:30] shouldn't have been taken away. looking
retrospectly
[13:32] retrospectly
[13:32] retrospectly
retrospectfully
[13:34] retrospectfully
[13:34] retrospectfully
at what we put should have done is
[13:36] at what we put should have done is
[13:36] at what we put should have done is
probably had a board that was not
[13:39] probably had a board that was not
[13:39] probably had a board that was not
created by and I'm Richard Mallister was
[13:43] created by and I'm Richard Mallister was
[13:43] created by and I'm Richard Mallister was
our leader at the time he's the one that
[13:45] our leader at the time he's the one that
[13:45] our leader at the time he's the one that
kind of drove things so he appointed the
[13:48] kind of drove things so he appointed the
[13:48] kind of drove things so he appointed the
board we should have an independent
[13:50] board we should have an independent
[13:50] board we should have an independent
board just like the library it should be
[13:53] board just like the library it should be
[13:53] board just like the library it should be
people that are saying no we have this
[13:55] people that are saying no we have this
[13:55] people that are saying no we have this
agenda for this we know that the city is
[13:58] agenda for this we know that the city is
[13:58] agenda for this we know that the city is
drawing
[13:59] drawing
[13:59] drawing
and we have to receive the monies, but
[14:02] and we have to receive the monies, but
[14:02] and we have to receive the monies, but
here's our capital improvement. Here's
[14:04] here's our capital improvement. Here's
[14:04] here's our capital improvement. Here's
our group of people that are fundraising
[14:06] our group of people that are fundraising
[14:06] our group of people that are fundraising
and care about this and we don't want to
[14:10] and care about this and we don't want to
[14:10] and care about this and we don't want to
have it implode. We have contentment
[14:13] have it implode. We have contentment
[14:13] have it implode. We have contentment
with what we have. We have 18 acres and
[14:15] with what we have. We have 18 acres and
[14:16] with what we have. We have 18 acres and
it has future abilities that we have not
[14:18] it has future abilities that we have not
[14:18] it has future abilities that we have not
expanded on yet.
[14:20] expanded on yet.
[14:20] expanded on yet.
um when we did not have neurology here,
[14:22] um when we did not have neurology here,
[14:22] um when we did not have neurology here,
I spent 15 days over in Mason City at a
[14:26] I spent 15 days over in Mason City at a
[14:26] I spent 15 days over in Mason City at a
neurology depth of wealth in that
[14:30] neurology depth of wealth in that
[14:30] neurology depth of wealth in that
community. Um they have a cancer center.
[14:34] community. Um they have a cancer center.
[14:34] community. Um they have a cancer center.
They have expansion upon major
[14:37] They have expansion upon major
[14:37] They have expansion upon major
development. I cruise down the road to
[14:39] development. I cruise down the road to
[14:39] development. I cruise down the road to
Austin, Minnesota to see what is it that
[14:42] Austin, Minnesota to see what is it that
[14:42] Austin, Minnesota to see what is it that
Mayo Clinic is looking at in these
[14:44] Mayo Clinic is looking at in these
[14:44] Mayo Clinic is looking at in these
sites. What? We have the contentment. We
[14:47] sites. What? We have the contentment. We
[14:47] sites. What? We have the contentment. We
have the individuality. We have the 18
[14:50] have the individuality. We have the 18
[14:50] have the individuality. We have the 18
acres. We don't need to lose 50 acres
[14:55] acres. We don't need to lose 50 acres
[14:55] acres. We don't need to lose 50 acres
and put the name Sartorii Memorial
[14:57] and put the name Sartorii Memorial
[14:57] and put the name Sartorii Memorial
Hospital on it with the deed and title
[15:00] Hospital on it with the deed and title
[15:00] Hospital on it with the deed and title
to 9inth Street Waterlue. I don't know
[15:02] to 9inth Street Waterlue. I don't know
[15:02] to 9inth Street Waterlue. I don't know
who 9inth Street Waterlue is. So the
[15:05] who 9inth Street Waterlue is. So the
[15:05] who 9inth Street Waterlue is. So the
farm trust, the Sartorii gift
[15:08] farm trust, the Sartorii gift
[15:08] farm trust, the Sartorii gift
that we had is something that is going
[15:11] that we had is something that is going
[15:11] that we had is something that is going
to be lost if we can't figure out why
[15:14] to be lost if we can't figure out why
[15:14] to be lost if we can't figure out why
and how we can get that back into this.
[15:17] and how we can get that back into this.
[15:17] and how we can get that back into this.
And it goes back to years ago when um we
[15:21] And it goes back to years ago when um we
[15:21] And it goes back to years ago when um we
were building um Overman Park here. We
[15:25] were building um Overman Park here. We
[15:25] were building um Overman Park here. We
were supposed to be the county seat for
[15:27] were supposed to be the county seat for
[15:27] were supposed to be the county seat for
Black County right over next door here.
[15:30] Black County right over next door here.
[15:30] Black County right over next door here.
and the paperwork got taken away and it
[15:33] and the paperwork got taken away and it
[15:33] and the paperwork got taken away and it
was moved to Waterlue and Mr. Sartorii
[15:37] was moved to Waterlue and Mr. Sartorii
[15:37] was moved to Waterlue and Mr. Sartorii
casually was at a meeting and he walked
[15:40] casually was at a meeting and he walked
[15:40] casually was at a meeting and he walked
over and he shook his fist at Mr. Levit
[15:46] over and he shook his fist at Mr. Levit
[15:46] over and he shook his fist at Mr. Levit
and he said um Joseph asked for
[15:49] and he said um Joseph asked for
[15:49] and he said um Joseph asked for
permission to speak and gave me many
[15:52] permission to speak and gave me many
[15:52] permission to speak and gave me many
interesting early day reminiscence of
[15:54] interesting early day reminiscence of
[15:54] interesting early day reminiscence of
getting warmed up as he recalled the
[15:57] getting warmed up as he recalled the
[15:57] getting warmed up as he recalled the
exciting events of the earlier day. He
[15:59] exciting events of the earlier day. He
[15:59] exciting events of the earlier day. He
came over to where I was sitting, shook
[16:00] came over to where I was sitting, shook
[16:00] came over to where I was sitting, shook
his fist at my face, and thundered. And
[16:03] his fist at my face, and thundered. And
[16:03] his fist at my face, and thundered. And
John H. Levit, you stole the county
[16:06] John H. Levit, you stole the county
[16:06] John H. Levit, you stole the county
seat.
[16:07] seat.
[16:07] seat.
Miss Jordan, this time
[16:08] Miss Jordan, this time
[16:08] Miss Jordan, this time
they stole this the hospital. We need to
[16:12] they stole this the hospital. We need to
[16:12] they stole this the hospital. We need to
get that back and we need to have an
[16:14] get that back and we need to have an
[16:14] get that back and we need to have an
account of like what how much does
[16:16] account of like what how much does
[16:16] account of like what how much does
Bell's farm have?
[16:17] Bell's farm have?
[16:17] Bell's farm have?
Mord this time.
[16:18] Mord this time.
[16:18] Mord this time.
Please, let's figure it out and let's
[16:20] Please, let's figure it out and let's
[16:20] Please, let's figure it out and let's
have a group independent of something
[16:22] have a group independent of something
[16:22] have a group independent of something
that was cut you off. Thank you.
[16:26] that was cut you off. Thank you.
[16:26] that was cut you off. Thank you.
Is there anyone else for public comment
[16:28] Is there anyone else for public comment
[16:28] Is there anyone else for public comment
this evening?
[16:31] this evening?
[16:31] this evening?
All right, seeing none, that takes us to
[16:32] All right, seeing none, that takes us to
[16:32] All right, seeing none, that takes us to
staff updates and we've got a couple of
[16:34] staff updates and we've got a couple of
[16:34] staff updates and we've got a couple of
them here. Director Sheets, if you want
[16:36] them here. Director Sheets, if you want
[16:36] them here. Director Sheets, if you want
to go first.
[16:37] to go first.
[16:37] to go first.
Sure. Um, I was updating the council at
[16:40] Sure. Um, I was updating the council at
[16:40] Sure. Um, I was updating the council at
our July meeting about the data center
[16:43] our July meeting about the data center
[16:43] our July meeting about the data center
referral and wanting an update on that.
[16:45] referral and wanting an update on that.
[16:45] referral and wanting an update on that.
We were anticipating at that time that
[16:47] We were anticipating at that time that
[16:47] We were anticipating at that time that
the uh Lincoln Institute of Land Policy
[16:50] the uh Lincoln Institute of Land Policy
[16:50] the uh Lincoln Institute of Land Policy
would have a publication out in August.
[16:53] would have a publication out in August.
[16:53] would have a publication out in August.
that was delayed till early October,
[16:55] that was delayed till early October,
[16:55] that was delayed till early October,
they've told us. So, we haven't seen it
[16:57] they've told us. So, we haven't seen it
[16:57] they've told us. So, we haven't seen it
just yet. Um, but as soon as we see
[16:59] just yet. Um, but as soon as we see
[16:59] just yet. Um, but as soon as we see
that, we will take the opportunity to
[17:01] that, we will take the opportunity to
[17:01] that, we will take the opportunity to
review that and come back and let
[17:03] review that and come back and let
[17:03] review that and come back and let
council know some of the key findings
[17:04] council know some of the key findings
[17:04] council know some of the key findings
from that and um decide a path forward.
[17:08] from that and um decide a path forward.
[17:08] from that and um decide a path forward.
Um, so I'm not sure if that will be
[17:10] Um, so I'm not sure if that will be
[17:10] Um, so I'm not sure if that will be
November or December, but uh we're
[17:12] November or December, but uh we're
[17:12] November or December, but uh we're
keeping it on our radar.
[17:14] keeping it on our radar.
[17:14] keeping it on our radar.
Is that work? Okay. Work okay with
[17:16] Is that work? Okay. Work okay with
[17:16] Is that work? Okay. Work okay with
everyone timeline wise concerns?
[17:19] everyone timeline wise concerns?
[17:19] everyone timeline wise concerns?
Okay. Thank you, director, and director
[17:21] Okay. Thank you, director, and director
[17:21] Okay. Thank you, director, and director
Birdie, you want to jump in next?
[17:23] Birdie, you want to jump in next?
[17:23] Birdie, you want to jump in next?
All right. Good evening, Mayor Council.
[17:25] All right. Good evening, Mayor Council.
[17:25] All right. Good evening, Mayor Council.
Uh, this week is fire prevention week,
[17:27] Uh, this week is fire prevention week,
[17:27] Uh, this week is fire prevention week,
and we're having an open house out the
[17:28] and we're having an open house out the
[17:28] and we're having an open house out the
public safety building on Wednesday
[17:29] public safety building on Wednesday
[17:29] public safety building on Wednesday
night. So, it's this Wednesday night,
[17:31] night. So, it's this Wednesday night,
[17:31] night. So, it's this Wednesday night,
October 7th, from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. And,
[17:34] October 7th, from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. And,
[17:34] October 7th, from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. And,
uh, people can come out, see vehicles,
[17:36] uh, people can come out, see vehicles,
[17:36] uh, people can come out, see vehicles,
equipment, fire personnel, get some fire
[17:38] equipment, fire personnel, get some fire
[17:38] equipment, fire personnel, get some fire
safety information, uh, meal by HY. So,
[17:41] safety information, uh, meal by HY. So,
[17:41] safety information, uh, meal by HY. So,
again, it's this Wednesday night,
[17:43] again, it's this Wednesday night,
[17:43] again, it's this Wednesday night,
October 7th, from 4 to 6 p.m. at the
[17:44] October 7th, from 4 to 6 p.m. at the
[17:44] October 7th, from 4 to 6 p.m. at the
public safety building.
[17:46] public safety building.
[17:46] public safety building.
Perfect. Thank you. And I believe
[17:49] Perfect. Thank you. And I believe
[17:49] Perfect. Thank you. And I believe
Dr. Shy, we got one, too.
[17:50] Dr. Shy, we got one, too.
[17:50] Dr. Shy, we got one, too.
Thank you, Mayor. Just uh quickly want
[17:52] Thank you, Mayor. Just uh quickly want
[17:52] Thank you, Mayor. Just uh quickly want
to remind uh everyone that the modified
[17:54] to remind uh everyone that the modified
[17:54] to remind uh everyone that the modified
transfer station hours this week, um
[17:56] transfer station hours this week, um
[17:56] transfer station hours this week, um
with last week's uh significant weather
[17:59] with last week's uh significant weather
[17:59] with last week's uh significant weather
event and the flash flooding, um we are
[18:01] event and the flash flooding, um we are
[18:01] event and the flash flooding, um we are
offering um anyone damaged with uh water
[18:05] offering um anyone damaged with uh water
[18:05] offering um anyone damaged with uh water
and needing to drop off materials. So,
[18:07] and needing to drop off materials. So,
[18:07] and needing to drop off materials. So,
we are waving that fee at the transfer
[18:09] we are waving that fee at the transfer
[18:09] we are waving that fee at the transfer
station. Um as well as we are extending
[18:12] station. Um as well as we are extending
[18:12] station. Um as well as we are extending
the hours from uh 7 a.m. to 6 pm and
[18:15] the hours from uh 7 a.m. to 6 pm and
[18:15] the hours from uh 7 a.m. to 6 pm and
that will be offered through Wednesday
[18:16] that will be offered through Wednesday
[18:16] that will be offered through Wednesday
of this week. Thank you, director. And
[18:19] of this week. Thank you, director. And
[18:19] of this week. Thank you, director. And
I'll also add onto that uh found out
[18:20] I'll also add onto that uh found out
[18:20] I'll also add onto that uh found out
today that the governor did declare
[18:22] today that the governor did declare
[18:22] today that the governor did declare
Blackhawk County as an emergency um
[18:24] Blackhawk County as an emergency um
[18:24] Blackhawk County as an emergency um
after those flash floods. And so what
[18:26] after those flash floods. And so what
[18:26] after those flash floods. And so what
that means for the public is there is
[18:28] that means for the public is there is
[18:28] that means for the public is there is
some federal or state resources, excuse
[18:30] some federal or state resources, excuse
[18:30] some federal or state resources, excuse
me, that if um qualifying individuals,
[18:33] me, that if um qualifying individuals,
[18:33] me, that if um qualifying individuals,
households that are under 200% of the
[18:35] households that are under 200% of the
[18:35] households that are under 200% of the
federal poverty level. um from an income
[18:37] federal poverty level. um from an income
[18:37] federal poverty level. um from an income
standpoint can receive up to $7,000 in
[18:40] standpoint can receive up to $7,000 in
[18:40] standpoint can receive up to $7,000 in
state funding to help cover some of
[18:41] state funding to help cover some of
[18:41] state funding to help cover some of
those costs if they were not covered by
[18:43] those costs if they were not covered by
[18:43] those costs if they were not covered by
insurance for either vehicle
[18:44] insurance for either vehicle
[18:44] insurance for either vehicle
replacements, fixes, uh home repairs, um
[18:48] replacements, fixes, uh home repairs, um
[18:48] replacements, fixes, uh home repairs, um
loss of items. And so I don't have all
[18:50] loss of items. And so I don't have all
[18:50] loss of items. And so I don't have all
the details, but if anybody's watching
[18:52] the details, but if anybody's watching
[18:52] the details, but if anybody's watching
and is interested or wants to share it,
[18:54] and is interested or wants to share it,
[18:54] and is interested or wants to share it,
uh for anyone that may have been
[18:55] uh for anyone that may have been
[18:55] uh for anyone that may have been
impacted mainly by either flooding from
[18:56] impacted mainly by either flooding from
[18:56] impacted mainly by either flooding from
some of the creeks, uh or if you had any
[18:59] some of the creeks, uh or if you had any
[18:59] some of the creeks, uh or if you had any
sewer backup that happened, you can
[19:01] sewer backup that happened, you can
[19:01] sewer backup that happened, you can
reach out to the Blackhawk County
[19:02] reach out to the Blackhawk County
[19:02] reach out to the Blackhawk County
Emergency Management and they'll get you
[19:03] Emergency Management and they'll get you
[19:03] Emergency Management and they'll get you
all the information, all the details.
[19:05] all the information, all the details.
[19:05] all the information, all the details.
still be helping manage it. And so the
[19:07] still be helping manage it. And so the
[19:07] still be helping manage it. And so the
best place to do that would be to
[19:08] best place to do that would be to
[19:08] best place to do that would be to
probably just go to their website and
[19:09] probably just go to their website and
[19:09] probably just go to their website and
find their contact information there,
[19:11] find their contact information there,
[19:11] find their contact information there,
which is BH C I A M A or excuse me, BH.
[19:16] which is BH C I A M A or excuse me, BH.
[19:16] which is BH C I A M A or excuse me, BH.
It's a lot. It's a big acronym, so bear
[19:19] It's a lot. It's a big acronym, so bear
[19:19] It's a lot. It's a big acronym, so bear
with me. BH C I Am.com.
[19:24] with me. BH C I Am.com.
[19:24] with me. BH C I Am.com.
So it's again, that's BHC Blackhawk
[19:27] So it's again, that's BHC Blackhawk
[19:27] So it's again, that's BHC Blackhawk
County Amea.com.
[19:30] County Amea.com.
[19:30] County Amea.com.
And all the information should be up
[19:31] And all the information should be up
[19:31] And all the information should be up
there and we'll be getting information
[19:33] there and we'll be getting information
[19:33] there and we'll be getting information
out about this on social media in the
[19:34] out about this on social media in the
[19:34] out about this on social media in the
news. I know I believe KWWL did a little
[19:37] news. I know I believe KWWL did a little
[19:37] news. I know I believe KWWL did a little
bit of an article earlier, but that'll
[19:39] bit of an article earlier, but that'll
[19:39] bit of an article earlier, but that'll
be available, I believe, through there's
[19:41] be available, I believe, through there's
[19:41] be available, I believe, through there's
an application period uh that you need
[19:43] an application period uh that you need
[19:43] an application period uh that you need
to get it in by uh by I believe early
[19:45] to get it in by uh by I believe early
[19:45] to get it in by uh by I believe early
November. So, just in case residents are
[19:47] November. So, just in case residents are
[19:47] November. So, just in case residents are
looking for that. And otherwise, I asked
[19:50] looking for that. And otherwise, I asked
[19:50] looking for that. And otherwise, I asked
um Director Rodenck if she'd like to do
[19:52] um Director Rodenck if she'd like to do
[19:52] um Director Rodenck if she'd like to do
an update, too, because all the other
[19:53] an update, too, because all the other
[19:53] an update, too, because all the other
directors did, but she's okay.
[19:56] directors did, but she's okay.
[19:56] directors did, but she's okay.
All right. Just wanted to make sure you
[19:57] All right. Just wanted to make sure you
[19:57] All right. Just wanted to make sure you
hadn't changed your mind. Okay, we'll
[20:00] hadn't changed your mind. Okay, we'll
[20:00] hadn't changed your mind. Okay, we'll
keep moving. All right, special order of
[20:02] keep moving. All right, special order of
[20:02] keep moving. All right, special order of
business item number two, public hearing
[20:03] business item number two, public hearing
[20:03] business item number two, public hearing
to consider a proposal to enter into a
[20:05] to consider a proposal to enter into a
[20:06] to consider a proposal to enter into a
first amendment to the private agreement
[20:07] first amendment to the private agreement
[20:07] first amendment to the private agreement
for private development with Blackhawk
[20:09] for private development with Blackhawk
[20:09] for private development with Blackhawk
Properties LLC. Is there a motion to
[20:10] Properties LLC. Is there a motion to
[20:10] Properties LLC. Is there a motion to
receive and file?
[20:11] receive and file?
[20:11] receive and file?
So moved.
[20:12] So moved.
[20:12] So moved.
Second.
[20:13] Second.
[20:13] Second.
Motion second. And all those in favor?
[20:15] Motion second. And all those in favor?
[20:15] Motion second. And all those in favor?
I.
[20:16] I.
[20:16] I.
All oppose? Motion carries. Madam clerk,
[20:18] All oppose? Motion carries. Madam clerk,
[20:18] All oppose? Motion carries. Madam clerk,
any written communications?
[20:19] any written communications?
[20:19] any written communications?
I have no written communications, Mr.
[20:21] I have no written communications, Mr.
[20:21] I have no written communications, Mr.
Mayor.
[20:21] Mayor.
[20:21] Mayor.
Thank you. And for staff comments, we've
[20:23] Thank you. And for staff comments, we've
[20:23] Thank you. And for staff comments, we've
got Shane Graham. Thank you, Shane.
[20:24] got Shane Graham. Thank you, Shane.
[20:24] got Shane Graham. Thank you, Shane.
All right. Thank you, Mayor. Uh back in
[20:26] All right. Thank you, Mayor. Uh back in
[20:26] All right. Thank you, Mayor. Uh back in
2024, if council may remember, for those
[20:29] 2024, if council may remember, for those
[20:29] 2024, if council may remember, for those
that were on the uh council at the time,
[20:31] that were on the uh council at the time,
[20:31] that were on the uh council at the time,
uh council approved an agreement for
[20:32] uh council approved an agreement for
[20:32] uh council approved an agreement for
private development with uh Blackhawk
[20:34] private development with uh Blackhawk
[20:34] private development with uh Blackhawk
Properties LLC uh to build a new
[20:37] Properties LLC uh to build a new
[20:37] Properties LLC uh to build a new
industrial building on Innovation Drive
[20:39] industrial building on Innovation Drive
[20:39] industrial building on Innovation Drive
in the West Viking Road Industrial Park.
[20:41] in the West Viking Road Industrial Park.
[20:41] in the West Viking Road Industrial Park.
This building is located just south of
[20:43] This building is located just south of
[20:43] This building is located just south of
the newer Amazon uh distribution center.
[20:45] the newer Amazon uh distribution center.
[20:46] the newer Amazon uh distribution center.
Uh the building would become the new
[20:47] Uh the building would become the new
[20:47] Uh the building would become the new
home for Rice Companies, which is a
[20:49] home for Rice Companies, which is a
[20:49] home for Rice Companies, which is a
construction and design company, which
[20:50] construction and design company, which
[20:50] construction and design company, which
is headquartered in Minnesota. and this
[20:52] is headquartered in Minnesota. and this
[20:52] is headquartered in Minnesota. and this
is their uh first and only Iowa
[20:55] is their uh first and only Iowa
[20:55] is their uh first and only Iowa
location. Uh the agreement called for
[20:57] location. Uh the agreement called for
[20:58] location. Uh the agreement called for
the developer to construct a total of a
[21:00] the developer to construct a total of a
[21:00] the developer to construct a total of a
78,000 ft building over three phases on
[21:03] 78,000 ft building over three phases on
[21:03] 78,000 ft building over three phases on
7 1/2 acres of land. Uh that first phase
[21:06] 7 1/2 acres of land. Uh that first phase
[21:06] 7 1/2 acres of land. Uh that first phase
of the uh development was completed in
[21:08] of the uh development was completed in
[21:08] of the uh development was completed in
2025 which the developer did construct
[21:11] 2025 which the developer did construct
[21:11] 2025 which the developer did construct
an initial 29,000 foot building. Uh that
[21:14] an initial 29,000 foot building. Uh that
[21:14] an initial 29,000 foot building. Uh that
building does include their home office
[21:16] building does include their home office
[21:16] building does include their home office
and then two leasable spaces. Uh the
[21:19] and then two leasable spaces. Uh the
[21:19] and then two leasable spaces. Uh the
development agreement also uh included a
[21:21] development agreement also uh included a
[21:21] development agreement also uh included a
5-year partial property tax abatement
[21:23] 5-year partial property tax abatement
[21:23] 5-year partial property tax abatement
for each phase of the project after each
[21:25] for each phase of the project after each
[21:25] for each phase of the project after each
phase is uh completed. Uh Iowa code does
[21:28] phase is uh completed. Uh Iowa code does
[21:28] phase is uh completed. Uh Iowa code does
require that the tax abatement
[21:30] require that the tax abatement
[21:30] require that the tax abatement
application be submitted to the county
[21:32] application be submitted to the county
[21:32] application be submitted to the county
assessor no later than February 1st of
[21:34] assessor no later than February 1st of
[21:34] assessor no later than February 1st of
the assessment year in which the value
[21:36] the assessment year in which the value
[21:36] the assessment year in which the value
is first assessed for taxation. So what
[21:39] is first assessed for taxation. So what
[21:39] is first assessed for taxation. So what
this means is that the since the first
[21:41] this means is that the since the first
[21:41] this means is that the since the first
phase was completed in 2025 and was
[21:43] phase was completed in 2025 and was
[21:43] phase was completed in 2025 and was
fully assessed by the county assessor on
[21:45] fully assessed by the county assessor on
[21:45] fully assessed by the county assessor on
January 1st of 2026. Uh the developer
[21:49] January 1st of 2026. Uh the developer
[21:49] January 1st of 2026. Uh the developer
and owner was supposed to get that
[21:51] and owner was supposed to get that
[21:51] and owner was supposed to get that
application to the county assessor uh by
[21:53] application to the county assessor uh by
[21:53] application to the county assessor uh by
February 1st of 2026.
[21:56] February 1st of 2026.
[21:56] February 1st of 2026.
Uh the developer did reach out to city
[21:58] Uh the developer did reach out to city
[21:58] Uh the developer did reach out to city
staff uh just within the last couple of
[22:00] staff uh just within the last couple of
[22:00] staff uh just within the last couple of
months. Uh did indicate that they did
[22:02] months. Uh did indicate that they did
[22:02] months. Uh did indicate that they did
not submit the application in time. Uh
[22:05] not submit the application in time. Uh
[22:05] not submit the application in time. Uh
they were under the impression um that
[22:07] they were under the impression um that
[22:07] they were under the impression um that
the abatement would just be
[22:08] the abatement would just be
[22:08] the abatement would just be
automatically taken care of by the
[22:10] automatically taken care of by the
[22:10] automatically taken care of by the
county and was not um aware that the
[22:13] county and was not um aware that the
[22:13] county and was not um aware that the
application needed to be filed. Uh so
[22:15] application needed to be filed. Uh so
[22:15] application needed to be filed. Uh so
they contacted us and we've been working
[22:17] they contacted us and we've been working
[22:17] they contacted us and we've been working
with them on an alternate which is
[22:18] with them on an alternate which is
[22:18] with them on an alternate which is
before council tonight. Uh therefore the
[22:21] before council tonight. Uh therefore the
[22:22] before council tonight. Uh therefore the
developer is uh working with us on that
[22:23] developer is uh working with us on that
[22:23] developer is uh working with us on that
alternative. Again because this is
[22:25] alternative. Again because this is
[22:26] alternative. Again because this is
within an urban renewal area or a tiff
[22:28] within an urban renewal area or a tiff
[22:28] within an urban renewal area or a tiff
district. Uh we do have the ability to
[22:30] district. Uh we do have the ability to
[22:30] district. Uh we do have the ability to
offer a tax rebate. Uh that's not our
[22:33] offer a tax rebate. Uh that's not our
[22:33] offer a tax rebate. Uh that's not our
standard incentive. Our standard
[22:34] standard incentive. Our standard
[22:34] standard incentive. Our standard
incentive incentive is to offer the tax
[22:36] incentive incentive is to offer the tax
[22:36] incentive incentive is to offer the tax
abatement. Uh so what the developer and
[22:39] abatement. Uh so what the developer and
[22:39] abatement. Uh so what the developer and
uh city staff have been working on is
[22:41] uh city staff have been working on is
[22:42] uh city staff have been working on is
instead to remove the tax abatement from
[22:44] instead to remove the tax abatement from
[22:44] instead to remove the tax abatement from
the development agreement and replace it
[22:45] the development agreement and replace it
[22:46] the development agreement and replace it
with a five-year tax rebate on the same
[22:48] with a five-year tax rebate on the same
[22:48] with a five-year tax rebate on the same
schedule as the tax abatement. Uh then
[22:51] schedule as the tax abatement. Uh then
[22:51] schedule as the tax abatement. Uh then
they would pay their taxes as normal and
[22:53] they would pay their taxes as normal and
[22:53] they would pay their taxes as normal and
then we would rebate them that certain
[22:54] then we would rebate them that certain
[22:54] then we would rebate them that certain
percentage uh each year or for the next
[22:57] percentage uh each year or for the next
[22:57] percentage uh each year or for the next
five years.
[22:59] five years.
[22:59] five years.
Um for the other phases of phase two and
[23:01] Um for the other phases of phase two and
[23:01] Um for the other phases of phase two and
phase three which they haven't started
[23:02] phase three which they haven't started
[23:02] phase three which they haven't started
yet that would still remain with the tax
[23:05] yet that would still remain with the tax
[23:05] yet that would still remain with the tax
abatement. they would complete the next
[23:07] abatement. they would complete the next
[23:07] abatement. they would complete the next
phases and then submit that application
[23:08] phases and then submit that application
[23:08] phases and then submit that application
to the county for the tax abatement on
[23:10] to the county for the tax abatement on
[23:10] to the county for the tax abatement on
those future phases.
[23:12] those future phases.
[23:12] those future phases.
Um
[23:14] Um
[23:14] Um
they were supposed to start phase two
[23:16] they were supposed to start phase two
[23:16] they were supposed to start phase two
and be completed with it by no later
[23:19] and be completed with it by no later
[23:19] and be completed with it by no later
than August of next summer. Uh and then
[23:22] than August of next summer. Uh and then
[23:22] than August of next summer. Uh and then
the third phase was supposed to be
[23:23] the third phase was supposed to be
[23:24] the third phase was supposed to be
completed by August 1st of 2029. As part
[23:26] completed by August 1st of 2029. As part
[23:26] completed by August 1st of 2029. As part
of this um uh amendment, they are asking
[23:30] of this um uh amendment, they are asking
[23:30] of this um uh amendment, they are asking
to push those dates back by two years.
[23:33] to push those dates back by two years.
[23:33] to push those dates back by two years.
Uh they are citing market conditions. Uh
[23:35] Uh they are citing market conditions. Uh
[23:35] Uh they are citing market conditions. Uh
they do have two leasable spaces that
[23:37] they do have two leasable spaces that
[23:37] they do have two leasable spaces that
were built with phase one uh that
[23:39] were built with phase one uh that
[23:40] were built with phase one uh that
they've had for probably 12 to 14 months
[23:42] they've had for probably 12 to 14 months
[23:42] they've had for probably 12 to 14 months
now and they have not found tenants for
[23:44] now and they have not found tenants for
[23:44] now and they have not found tenants for
those two initial spaces. Um they've
[23:47] those two initial spaces. Um they've
[23:47] those two initial spaces. Um they've
hired uh several realtors. I think
[23:49] hired uh several realtors. I think
[23:49] hired uh several realtors. I think
they're on their second or third uh
[23:51] they're on their second or third uh
[23:51] they're on their second or third uh
commercial realtor trying to get them
[23:53] commercial realtor trying to get them
[23:53] commercial realtor trying to get them
marketing uh to try to find some lease
[23:55] marketing uh to try to find some lease
[23:55] marketing uh to try to find some lease
uh uh lease people to take those two
[23:57] uh uh lease people to take those two
[23:57] uh uh lease people to take those two
spaces. Their goal is to hopefully get
[24:00] spaces. Their goal is to hopefully get
[24:00] spaces. Their goal is to hopefully get
those completed, but are asking for a
[24:01] those completed, but are asking for a
[24:01] those completed, but are asking for a
two-year extension to phase two and
[24:03] two-year extension to phase two and
[24:03] two-year extension to phase two and
phase three uh just because of the uh
[24:05] phase three uh just because of the uh
[24:06] phase three uh just because of the uh
the conditions as they sit now and
[24:07] the conditions as they sit now and
[24:07] the conditions as they sit now and
having the uh the the tough time trying
[24:09] having the uh the the tough time trying
[24:09] having the uh the the tough time trying
to find the tenants for the first two
[24:11] to find the tenants for the first two
[24:11] to find the tenants for the first two
spaces that are already complete. So
[24:13] spaces that are already complete. So
[24:13] spaces that are already complete. So
those are the two changes within the
[24:15] those are the two changes within the
[24:15] those are the two changes within the
development agreement uh before council
[24:17] development agreement uh before council
[24:17] development agreement uh before council
tonight. Everything else in the
[24:18] tonight. Everything else in the
[24:18] tonight. Everything else in the
agreement uh will remain as as was
[24:21] agreement uh will remain as as was
[24:21] agreement uh will remain as as was
approved back in 2024.
[24:23] approved back in 2024.
[24:23] approved back in 2024.
And so essentially the just clarify the
[24:25] And so essentially the just clarify the
[24:25] And so essentially the just clarify the
doesn't change the amount or anything of
[24:27] doesn't change the amount or anything of
[24:27] doesn't change the amount or anything of
it. It's just since rather than doing
[24:28] it. It's just since rather than doing
[24:28] it. It's just since rather than doing
the abatement, we're just going to have
[24:30] the abatement, we're just going to have
[24:30] the abatement, we're just going to have
to switch it over to a rebate since they
[24:31] to switch it over to a rebate since they
[24:32] to switch it over to a rebate since they
missed that filing period.
[24:33] missed that filing period.
[24:33] missed that filing period.
Correct.
[24:34] Correct.
[24:34] Correct.
Y and there was nothing in that original
[24:36] Y and there was nothing in that original
[24:36] Y and there was nothing in that original
agreement that was really predicated on
[24:38] agreement that was really predicated on
[24:38] agreement that was really predicated on
those future expansions. Those were just
[24:39] those future expansions. Those were just
[24:39] those future expansions. Those were just
included in the agreement as future
[24:41] included in the agreement as future
[24:41] included in the agreement as future
plans and doesn't change anything by
[24:43] plans and doesn't change anything by
[24:43] plans and doesn't change anything by
extending them out.
[24:44] extending them out.
[24:44] extending them out.
Correct.
[24:46] Correct.
[24:46] Correct.
Any clarifying questions from council
[24:49] Any clarifying questions from council
[24:49] Any clarifying questions from council
for Shane at this time? Bill's ri.
[24:54] 
[24:54] All right. Thanks, Shane.
[24:55] All right. Thanks, Shane.
[24:56] All right. Thanks, Shane.
Thank you. And with that, we'll move on
[24:57] Thank you. And with that, we'll move on
[24:57] Thank you. And with that, we'll move on
to any public comments on this item this
[24:58] to any public comments on this item this
[24:58] to any public comments on this item this
evening.
[25:06] 
[25:06] Just name, please.
[25:08] Just name, please.
[25:08] Just name, please.
Um, Kim Jordan. Contracts. The contracts
[25:11] Um, Kim Jordan. Contracts. The contracts
[25:11] Um, Kim Jordan. Contracts. The contracts
are kind of important. Um, whether it's
[25:14] are kind of important. Um, whether it's
[25:14] are kind of important. Um, whether it's
lease or moving people in and over
[25:18] lease or moving people in and over
[25:18] lease or moving people in and over
building,
[25:19] building,
[25:19] building,
you know, um, without the need. Um, I'm
[25:24] you know, um, without the need. Um, I'm
[25:24] you know, um, without the need. Um, I'm
going to have some comments on even just
[25:27] going to have some comments on even just
[25:27] going to have some comments on even just
building two small residential lots on
[25:30] building two small residential lots on
[25:30] building two small residential lots on
the next agenda item. Um, because
[25:33] the next agenda item. Um, because
[25:33] the next agenda item. Um, because
there's variances.
[25:35] there's variances.
[25:35] there's variances.
Sure, we need to keep it to this. We can
[25:36] Sure, we need to keep it to this. We can
[25:36] Sure, we need to keep it to this. We can
definitely talk on that further. It is
[25:38] definitely talk on that further. It is
[25:38] definitely talk on that further. It is
next.
[25:39] next.
[25:39] next.
The contracts are important. Um, they go
[25:42] The contracts are important. Um, they go
[25:42] The contracts are important. Um, they go
mainstream to almost everything and we
[25:45] mainstream to almost everything and we
[25:45] mainstream to almost everything and we
should be holding them just as
[25:48] should be holding them just as
[25:48] should be holding them just as
accountable as what we are. and maybe
[25:51] accountable as what we are. and maybe
[25:51] accountable as what we are. and maybe
we're overstretching on some of this.
[25:54] we're overstretching on some of this.
[25:54] we're overstretching on some of this.
Um, but that's just, you know, we have
[25:59] Um, but that's just, you know, we have
[25:59] Um, but that's just, you know, we have
other spaces that are already vacant um
[26:03] other spaces that are already vacant um
[26:03] other spaces that are already vacant um
that could be repurposed
[26:06] that could be repurposed
[26:06] that could be repurposed
um retrofitting what we already have
[26:08] um retrofitting what we already have
[26:08] um retrofitting what we already have
locations. Thank you.
[26:10] locations. Thank you.
[26:10] locations. Thank you.
Thank you.
[26:12] Thank you.
[26:12] Thank you.
Any other public comment for this item
[26:13] Any other public comment for this item
[26:13] Any other public comment for this item
this evening?
[26:16] this evening?
[26:16] this evening?
All right, seeing none, bring it back to
[26:18] All right, seeing none, bring it back to
[26:18] All right, seeing none, bring it back to
council. Any further discussion from
[26:19] council. Any further discussion from
[26:19] council. Any further discussion from
council? Well, excuse me. I'll close the
[26:21] council? Well, excuse me. I'll close the
[26:21] council? Well, excuse me. I'll close the
public hearing and then bring it back to
[26:23] public hearing and then bring it back to
[26:23] public hearing and then bring it back to
council for any further discussion.
[26:25] council for any further discussion.
[26:26] council for any further discussion.
Mr. Mayor,
[26:26] Mr. Mayor,
[26:26] Mr. Mayor,
sorry. Go ahead.
[26:27] sorry. Go ahead.
[26:27] sorry. Go ahead.
Go ahead.
[26:28] Go ahead.
[26:28] Go ahead.
Just a fast question. Sorry, Shane. I
[26:29] Just a fast question. Sorry, Shane. I
[26:29] Just a fast question. Sorry, Shane. I
didn't get it out while you were up
[26:30] didn't get it out while you were up
[26:30] didn't get it out while you were up
here. Um, I get that this is an apples
[26:34] here. Um, I get that this is an apples
[26:34] here. Um, I get that this is an apples
to apples agreement. There's no there's
[26:35] to apples agreement. There's no there's
[26:36] to apples agreement. There's no there's
no financial benefit one way or the
[26:37] no financial benefit one way or the
[26:37] no financial benefit one way or the
other. It's just this we're kind of word
[26:39] other. It's just this we're kind of word
[26:39] other. It's just this we're kind of word
smithing it to help the the person out
[26:42] smithing it to help the the person out
[26:42] smithing it to help the the person out
that missed their filing. Have we ever
[26:43] that missed their filing. Have we ever
[26:44] that missed their filing. Have we ever
had any of these in the past where we've
[26:45] had any of these in the past where we've
[26:45] had any of these in the past where we've
had to do something similar? Just out of
[26:46] had to do something similar? Just out of
[26:46] had to do something similar? Just out of
curiosity. Yeah, we just we had one 2021
[26:52] curiosity. Yeah, we just we had one 2021
[26:52] curiosity. Yeah, we just we had one 2021
standard distribution in the industrial
[26:53] standard distribution in the industrial
[26:53] standard distribution in the industrial
park built in addition to both their
[26:56] park built in addition to both their
[26:56] park built in addition to both their
site in the north industrial park and in
[26:58] site in the north industrial park and in
[26:58] site in the north industrial park and in
the in the main industrial park and they
[27:00] the in the main industrial park and they
[27:00] the in the main industrial park and they
actually filed the wrong application
[27:02] actually filed the wrong application
[27:02] actually filed the wrong application
with the county and didn't get
[27:03] with the county and didn't get
[27:03] with the county and didn't get
notification from the county until after
[27:05] notification from the county until after
[27:05] notification from the county until after
February 1st. So, same thing. Um they
[27:08] February 1st. So, same thing. Um they
[27:08] February 1st. So, same thing. Um they
worked with us to do a similar basically
[27:10] worked with us to do a similar basically
[27:10] worked with us to do a similar basically
the same thing basically converting it
[27:11] the same thing basically converting it
[27:12] the same thing basically converting it
to a 5-year uh tax rebate over the tax
[27:15] to a 5-year uh tax rebate over the tax
[27:15] to a 5-year uh tax rebate over the tax
abatement. So, it's it's happened one
[27:17] abatement. So, it's it's happened one
[27:17] abatement. So, it's it's happened one
other time since I've been here.
[27:18] other time since I've been here.
[27:18] other time since I've been here.
Okay, perfect. Thank you.
[27:20] Okay, perfect. Thank you.
[27:20] Okay, perfect. Thank you.
Thank you, counselor.
[27:21] Thank you, counselor.
[27:21] Thank you, counselor.
Mr. Mayor, um I I just want to kind of
[27:25] Mr. Mayor, um I I just want to kind of
[27:25] Mr. Mayor, um I I just want to kind of
point out uh first Shane, thanks for the
[27:28] point out uh first Shane, thanks for the
[27:28] point out uh first Shane, thanks for the
work and helping to
[27:31] work and helping to
[27:32] work and helping to
uh get this to a place where we can
[27:35] uh get this to a place where we can
[27:35] uh get this to a place where we can
correct a problem that really wasn't our
[27:37] correct a problem that really wasn't our
[27:37] correct a problem that really wasn't our
problem to correct to be blunt. Mhm.
[27:41] problem to correct to be blunt. Mhm.
[27:41] problem to correct to be blunt. Mhm.
And obviously, you know, I'm thankful
[27:43] And obviously, you know, I'm thankful
[27:43] And obviously, you know, I'm thankful
for anyone who develops in our city and
[27:45] for anyone who develops in our city and
[27:45] for anyone who develops in our city and
it's not a a dig at them, but when we
[27:48] it's not a a dig at them, but when we
[27:48] it's not a a dig at them, but when we
often hear,
[27:50] often hear,
[27:50] often hear,
not often, sometimes from certain
[27:51] not often, sometimes from certain
[27:51] not often, sometimes from certain
people, we hear, "Oh, the city is just
[27:54] people, we hear, "Oh, the city is just
[27:54] people, we hear, "Oh, the city is just
not so great to work with." This is an
[27:56] not so great to work with." This is an
[27:56] not so great to work with." This is an
instance where we don't have to do this.
[27:59] instance where we don't have to do this.
[28:00] instance where we don't have to do this.
Um, and we're doing it. So,
[28:03] Um, and we're doing it. So,
[28:03] Um, and we're doing it. So,
um,
[28:04] um,
[28:04] um,
you know, it's unfortunate, but I guess
[28:06] you know, it's unfortunate, but I guess
[28:06] you know, it's unfortunate, but I guess
it's fortunate for them that we found a
[28:08] it's fortunate for them that we found a
[28:08] it's fortunate for them that we found a
way to work
[28:09] way to work
[28:09] way to work
work and get him the thing. So, as a
[28:12] work and get him the thing. So, as a
[28:12] work and get him the thing. So, as a
person who's missed deadlines, uh, I can
[28:14] person who's missed deadlines, uh, I can
[28:14] person who's missed deadlines, uh, I can
probably imagine the panic of that
[28:16] probably imagine the panic of that
[28:16] probably imagine the panic of that
person. Uh, I would recommend Google
[28:19] person. Uh, I would recommend Google
[28:19] person. Uh, I would recommend Google
calendar alerts so they don't forget
[28:20] calendar alerts so they don't forget
[28:20] calendar alerts so they don't forget
things. Uh, but I just want to point out
[28:24] things. Uh, but I just want to point out
[28:24] things. Uh, but I just want to point out
that the city is being flexible um, with
[28:29] that the city is being flexible um, with
[28:29] that the city is being flexible um, with
this item.
[28:30] this item.
[28:30] this item.
Mhm. Thank you, councelor.
[28:33] Mhm. Thank you, councelor.
[28:33] Mhm. Thank you, councelor.
Any other discussion from councel?
[28:36] Any other discussion from councel?
[28:36] Any other discussion from councel?
All right, we're seeing none. Requires a
[28:37] All right, we're seeing none. Requires a
[28:37] All right, we're seeing none. Requires a
roll call vote, please.
[28:38] roll call vote, please.
[28:38] roll call vote, please.
I think I heard Craig.
[28:40] I think I heard Craig.
[28:40] I think I heard Craig.
Oh, Craig, did you jump in?
[28:42] Oh, Craig, did you jump in?
[28:42] Oh, Craig, did you jump in?
I did.
[28:43] I did.
[28:43] I did.
All right, go for it. Um
[28:45] All right, go for it. Um
[28:45] All right, go for it. Um
I would just hope from this point
[28:47] I would just hope from this point
[28:47] I would just hope from this point
forward people do make mistakes and
[28:50] forward people do make mistakes and
[28:50] forward people do make mistakes and
things happen and uh it seems like in
[28:54] things happen and uh it seems like in
[28:54] things happen and uh it seems like in
the past we we've wanted and like
[28:56] the past we we've wanted and like
[28:56] the past we we've wanted and like
deadlines and drop dead deadlines and uh
[29:00] deadlines and drop dead deadlines and uh
[29:00] deadlines and drop dead deadlines and uh
maybe moving forward if we're going to
[29:02] maybe moving forward if we're going to
[29:02] maybe moving forward if we're going to
allow this for this company um it should
[29:06] allow this for this company um it should
[29:06] allow this for this company um it should
happen for others and not not on a 100%
[29:10] happen for others and not not on a 100%
[29:10] happen for others and not not on a 100%
basis but um but we can be business
[29:13] basis but um but we can be business
[29:13] basis but um but we can be business
friendly and sometimes
[29:15] friendly and sometimes
[29:15] friendly and sometimes
um sometimes it's just pure neglect but
[29:19] um sometimes it's just pure neglect but
[29:19] um sometimes it's just pure neglect but
uh I would hope that we would be uh more
[29:21] uh I would hope that we would be uh more
[29:21] uh I would hope that we would be uh more
compassionate this way moving forward.
[29:25] compassionate this way moving forward.
[29:25] compassionate this way moving forward.
Yep. Thank you, counselor. Now, I would
[29:27] Yep. Thank you, counselor. Now, I would
[29:27] Yep. Thank you, counselor. Now, I would
say this is definitely a company that's
[29:28] say this is definitely a company that's
[29:28] say this is definitely a company that's
been great to work with. Good faith
[29:29] been great to work with. Good faith
[29:30] been great to work with. Good faith
intentions, I think, just missed the
[29:32] intentions, I think, just missed the
[29:32] intentions, I think, just missed the
misunderstood the filing aspect of it
[29:34] misunderstood the filing aspect of it
[29:34] misunderstood the filing aspect of it
and and so I think it's perfectly
[29:36] and and so I think it's perfectly
[29:36] and and so I think it's perfectly
acceptable to be able to work with them
[29:37] acceptable to be able to work with them
[29:37] acceptable to be able to work with them
and
[29:38] and
[29:38] and
help make sure they got what the
[29:39] help make sure they got what the
[29:39] help make sure they got what the
contracted expectation was. So
[29:41] contracted expectation was. So
[29:41] contracted expectation was. So
appreciate staff being able to reach out
[29:43] appreciate staff being able to reach out
[29:43] appreciate staff being able to reach out
and figure that out with them.
[29:45] and figure that out with them.
[29:45] and figure that out with them.
But Mr. Mayor, also it does create work.
[29:47] But Mr. Mayor, also it does create work.
[29:47] But Mr. Mayor, also it does create work.
So I mean, yes,
[29:48] So I mean, yes,
[29:48] So I mean, yes,
that's true. We hope
[29:49] that's true. We hope
[29:49] that's true. We hope
and I'm not digging on the company. I
[29:51] and I'm not digging on the company. I
[29:51] and I'm not digging on the company. I
want to make it very clear. I'm grateful
[29:52] want to make it very clear. I'm grateful
[29:52] want to make it very clear. I'm grateful
for their investment, but we have to
[29:54] for their investment, but we have to
[29:54] for their investment, but we have to
acknowledge that it does create work for
[29:57] acknowledge that it does create work for
[29:57] acknowledge that it does create work for
someone. And so I guess I'm grateful for
[29:59] someone. And so I guess I'm grateful for
[29:59] someone. And so I guess I'm grateful for
the person who's doing the work and I
[30:01] the person who's doing the work and I
[30:01] the person who's doing the work and I
imagine the company's also grateful for
[30:03] imagine the company's also grateful for
[30:03] imagine the company's also grateful for
them for doing the work.
[30:06] them for doing the work.
[30:06] them for doing the work.
All right. Thank counselors. Any further
[30:08] All right. Thank counselors. Any further
[30:08] All right. Thank counselors. Any further
discussion? All right. All right. Roll
[30:10] discussion? All right. All right. Roll
[30:10] discussion? All right. All right. Roll
call vote, please.
[30:27] 
[30:27] Did yours come through, Craig? Can you
[30:28] Did yours come through, Craig? Can you
[30:28] Did yours come through, Craig? Can you
see the option to vote?
[30:30] see the option to vote?
[30:30] see the option to vote?
It did not. You just need a voice vote.
[30:32] It did not. You just need a voice vote.
[30:32] It did not. You just need a voice vote.
Yeah, we'll have you do a voice vote
[30:33] Yeah, we'll have you do a voice vote
[30:33] Yeah, we'll have you do a voice vote
then.
[30:35] then.
[30:35] then.
Um, yes. I'll approve this.
[30:37] Um, yes. I'll approve this.
[30:37] Um, yes. I'll approve this.
Thank you, sir.
[30:38] Thank you, sir.
[30:38] Thank you, sir.
U members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[30:40] U members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[30:40] U members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
[30:41] Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
[30:41] Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
carries. Takes us to item number three,
[30:43] carries. Takes us to item number three,
[30:43] carries. Takes us to item number three,
public hearing on a proposed University
[30:45] public hearing on a proposed University
[30:45] public hearing on a proposed University
Avenue corridor urban renewal plan for a
[30:47] Avenue corridor urban renewal plan for a
[30:47] Avenue corridor urban renewal plan for a
proposed urban renewal area in the city
[30:49] proposed urban renewal area in the city
[30:49] proposed urban renewal area in the city
of Cedar Falls, Iowa. Do a motion to
[30:50] of Cedar Falls, Iowa. Do a motion to
[30:50] of Cedar Falls, Iowa. Do a motion to
approve?
[30:51] approve?
[30:51] approve?
So move.
[30:52] So move.
[30:52] So move.
Second.
[30:52] Second.
[30:52] Second.
Motion second. All those in favor?
[30:54] Motion second. All those in favor?
[30:54] Motion second. All those in favor?
I.
[30:55] I.
[30:55] I.
All opposed? I
[30:57] All opposed? I
[30:57] All opposed? I
motion carries. Uh, madam clerk, any
[31:00] motion carries. Uh, madam clerk, any
[31:00] motion carries. Uh, madam clerk, any
written communications?
[31:01] written communications?
[31:01] written communications?
I have no written communications, Mr.
[31:02] I have no written communications, Mr.
[31:02] I have no written communications, Mr.
Mayor.
[31:03] Mayor.
[31:03] Mayor.
Thank you. And again for staff comments,
[31:04] Thank you. And again for staff comments,
[31:04] Thank you. And again for staff comments,
we've got Shane Graham. Thank you,
[31:05] we've got Shane Graham. Thank you,
[31:06] we've got Shane Graham. Thank you,
Shane.
[31:06] Shane.
[31:06] Shane.
Thank you, Mayor. Um, as council may
[31:08] Thank you, Mayor. Um, as council may
[31:08] Thank you, Mayor. Um, as council may
remember, back in June, staff did a a
[31:13] remember, back in June, staff did a a
[31:13] remember, back in June, staff did a a
committee of the whole meeting uh
[31:14] committee of the whole meeting uh
[31:14] committee of the whole meeting uh
discussion with council presenting a
[31:16] discussion with council presenting a
[31:16] discussion with council presenting a
couple different options uh for
[31:18] couple different options uh for
[31:18] couple different options uh for
potential urban renewal areas around the
[31:20] potential urban renewal areas around the
[31:20] potential urban renewal areas around the
University Avenue corridor. I think the
[31:22] University Avenue corridor. I think the
[31:22] University Avenue corridor. I think the
direction from council was to start with
[31:24] direction from council was to start with
[31:24] direction from council was to start with
an urban renewal area just surrounding
[31:26] an urban renewal area just surrounding
[31:26] an urban renewal area just surrounding
the uh the mall property. Uh so since
[31:29] the uh the mall property. Uh so since
[31:29] the uh the mall property. Uh so since
that time, staff's been working with uh
[31:31] that time, staff's been working with uh
[31:31] that time, staff's been working with uh
the new mall owners. Um and it was
[31:33] the new mall owners. Um and it was
[31:33] the new mall owners. Um and it was
mentioned at the uh committee the whole
[31:35] mentioned at the uh committee the whole
[31:35] mentioned at the uh committee the whole
meeting tonight. Uh John Davis uh ended
[31:38] meeting tonight. Uh John Davis uh ended
[31:38] meeting tonight. Uh John Davis uh ended
up acquiring the mall in March uh and is
[31:41] up acquiring the mall in March uh and is
[31:41] up acquiring the mall in March uh and is
already doing some improvements to it.
[31:42] already doing some improvements to it.
[31:42] already doing some improvements to it.
Uh staff's met with them several times.
[31:45] Uh staff's met with them several times.
[31:45] Uh staff's met with them several times.
Uh and so what we're bringing forward
[31:47] Uh and so what we're bringing forward
[31:47] Uh and so what we're bringing forward
tonight is the urban renewal plan uh
[31:49] tonight is the urban renewal plan uh
[31:49] tonight is the urban renewal plan uh
which would then enable us to enter into
[31:51] which would then enable us to enter into
[31:51] which would then enable us to enter into
a development agreement uh to offer uh
[31:54] a development agreement uh to offer uh
[31:54] a development agreement uh to offer uh
tax incentives for increased valuation
[31:57] tax incentives for increased valuation
[31:57] tax incentives for increased valuation
uh that uh the Davis family puts into
[31:59] uh that uh the Davis family puts into
[31:59] uh that uh the Davis family puts into
that mall building. Um again, as part of
[32:02] that mall building. Um again, as part of
[32:02] that mall building. Um again, as part of
the approval process of new urban
[32:03] the approval process of new urban
[32:03] the approval process of new urban
renewal areas, we are um required to
[32:06] renewal areas, we are um required to
[32:06] renewal areas, we are um required to
notify taxing entities, we did hold that
[32:08] notify taxing entities, we did hold that
[32:08] notify taxing entities, we did hold that
um uh cons consultation meeting with the
[32:10] um uh cons consultation meeting with the
[32:10] um uh cons consultation meeting with the
taxing entities on September 16th. Those
[32:13] taxing entities on September 16th. Those
[32:13] taxing entities on September 16th. Those
minutes are in the in the council
[32:14] minutes are in the in the council
[32:14] minutes are in the in the council
packet. And then as well uh it did go to
[32:16] packet. And then as well uh it did go to
[32:16] packet. And then as well uh it did go to
the planning and zoning commission. any
[32:18] the planning and zoning commission. any
[32:18] the planning and zoning commission. any
new urban renewal areas require planning
[32:19] new urban renewal areas require planning
[32:20] new urban renewal areas require planning
and zoning commission review. Uh that
[32:21] and zoning commission review. Uh that
[32:21] and zoning commission review. Uh that
went to the planning and zoning
[32:22] went to the planning and zoning
[32:22] went to the planning and zoning
commission on September 23rd uh where it
[32:25] commission on September 23rd uh where it
[32:25] commission on September 23rd uh where it
did unanimously uh recommend that the
[32:27] did unanimously uh recommend that the
[32:27] did unanimously uh recommend that the
plan was in conformance uh with the
[32:30] plan was in conformance uh with the
[32:30] plan was in conformance uh with the
comprehensive plan. So, uh, tonight
[32:32] comprehensive plan. So, uh, tonight
[32:32] comprehensive plan. So, uh, tonight
before council is just the urban renewal
[32:34] before council is just the urban renewal
[32:34] before council is just the urban renewal
plan, which again is just, uh, our
[32:35] plan, which again is just, uh, our
[32:35] plan, which again is just, uh, our
surrounding the mall property itself,
[32:38] surrounding the mall property itself,
[32:38] surrounding the mall property itself,
uh, which would then lead to an upcoming
[32:39] uh, which would then lead to an upcoming
[32:40] uh, which would then lead to an upcoming
probably in the next month or two, uh,
[32:42] probably in the next month or two, uh,
[32:42] probably in the next month or two, uh,
development agreement for the actual,
[32:44] development agreement for the actual,
[32:44] development agreement for the actual,
um, agreement with showing showing out
[32:47] um, agreement with showing showing out
[32:47] um, agreement with showing showing out
like the tax rebates, the incentive
[32:49] like the tax rebates, the incentive
[32:49] like the tax rebates, the incentive
package for the project.
[32:52] package for the project.
[32:52] package for the project.
Any clarifying questions from council at
[32:54] Any clarifying questions from council at
[32:54] Any clarifying questions from council at
this time?
[32:57] 
[32:57] All right. Thank you, Shane.
[32:58] All right. Thank you, Shane.
[32:58] All right. Thank you, Shane.
Thank you. not any public comments on
[33:00] Thank you. not any public comments on
[33:00] Thank you. not any public comments on
this item this evening.
[33:07] 
[33:07] Just name please.
[33:09] Just name please.
[33:09] Just name please.
Jordan.
[33:09] Jordan.
[33:09] Jordan.
Um looking at that area, it's it's a
[33:13] Um looking at that area, it's it's a
[33:13] Um looking at that area, it's it's a
vast area. The building was built in
[33:15] vast area. The building was built in
[33:15] vast area. The building was built in
1969.
[33:17] 1969.
[33:17] 1969.
Um
[33:18] Um
[33:18] Um
a lot of potential there. Parking lots
[33:21] a lot of potential there. Parking lots
[33:21] a lot of potential there. Parking lots
already filled and just needs to be
[33:24] already filled and just needs to be
[33:24] already filled and just needs to be
maintained. Um,
[33:27] maintained. Um,
[33:27] maintained. Um,
it's a nice strip mall. If it was
[33:29] it's a nice strip mall. If it was
[33:29] it's a nice strip mall. If it was
connected, you know, interior walls,
[33:32] connected, you know, interior walls,
[33:32] connected, you know, interior walls,
shopping and having someone in a
[33:34] shopping and having someone in a
[33:34] shopping and having someone in a
wheelchair
[33:36] wheelchair
[33:36] wheelchair
that is Jordan, I'm going to have to
[33:37] that is Jordan, I'm going to have to
[33:37] that is Jordan, I'm going to have to
keep specific to the development
[33:39] keep specific to the development
[33:39] keep specific to the development
agreement, the urban renewal area, not
[33:41] agreement, the urban renewal area, not
[33:41] agreement, the urban renewal area, not
about the design of the mall or anything
[33:43] about the design of the mall or anything
[33:43] about the design of the mall or anything
with the usability of the space.
[33:45] with the usability of the space.
[33:45] with the usability of the space.
Yeah. the whole taxing. We're giving
[33:47] Yeah. the whole taxing. We're giving
[33:47] Yeah. the whole taxing. We're giving
incentives to certain groups and we're
[33:51] incentives to certain groups and we're
[33:52] incentives to certain groups and we're
dividing
[33:53] dividing
[33:53] dividing
even in the agendas. We're approving
[33:56] even in the agendas. We're approving
[33:56] even in the agendas. We're approving
that this is a subdivision and it has
[33:58] that this is a subdivision and it has
[33:58] that this is a subdivision and it has
its own little neighborhood and it has
[34:00] its own little neighborhood and it has
[34:00] its own little neighborhood and it has
this obligation. It's we're becoming
[34:03] this obligation. It's we're becoming
[34:03] this obligation. It's we're becoming
compartmentalized
[34:05] compartmentalized
[34:05] compartmentalized
with with the way that we're writing up
[34:09] with with the way that we're writing up
[34:09] with with the way that we're writing up
the different areas of Cedar Falls. the
[34:11] the different areas of Cedar Falls. the
[34:11] the different areas of Cedar Falls. the
way I look at it and when we go 30 years
[34:15] way I look at it and when we go 30 years
[34:15] way I look at it and when we go 30 years
down the road and these things wear out,
[34:18] down the road and these things wear out,
[34:18] down the road and these things wear out,
let's say it's um it's something that we
[34:21] let's say it's um it's something that we
[34:21] let's say it's um it's something that we
have to extend an agreement to and or
[34:24] have to extend an agreement to and or
[34:24] have to extend an agreement to and or
that district implodes and so we're no
[34:28] that district implodes and so we're no
[34:28] that district implodes and so we're no
longer in um this urban renewal phase.
[34:32] longer in um this urban renewal phase.
[34:32] longer in um this urban renewal phase.
We changed the name.
[34:35] We changed the name.
[34:35] We changed the name.
Are we just in a snowball of always
[34:37] Are we just in a snowball of always
[34:38] Are we just in a snowball of always
adding taxes or setting taxes off for a
[34:41] adding taxes or setting taxes off for a
[34:41] adding taxes or setting taxes off for a
while and then making them catch up and
[34:45] while and then making them catch up and
[34:45] while and then making them catch up and
giving let's take your business from
[34:47] giving let's take your business from
[34:47] giving let's take your business from
here and move you over here? And we're
[34:50] here and move you over here? And we're
[34:50] here and move you over here? And we're
not really setting the rules and the
[34:53] not really setting the rules and the
[34:53] not really setting the rules and the
commitment to the property in which
[34:55] commitment to the property in which
[34:55] commitment to the property in which
we're located so that we're content with
[34:58] we're located so that we're content with
[34:58] we're located so that we're content with
where we are. We have an identity. We
[35:00] where we are. We have an identity. We
[35:00] where we are. We have an identity. We
have a presence and we have a distance
[35:03] have a presence and we have a distance
[35:03] have a presence and we have a distance
of of um commercial or um hospital or
[35:10] of of um commercial or um hospital or
[35:10] of of um commercial or um hospital or
residential or multif family within it.
[35:14] residential or multif family within it.
[35:14] residential or multif family within it.
But it's the town was laid out really
[35:16] But it's the town was laid out really
[35:16] But it's the town was laid out really
perfectly when we first began and the
[35:19] perfectly when we first began and the
[35:19] perfectly when we first began and the
growth beyond it seems like we're
[35:22] growth beyond it seems like we're
[35:22] growth beyond it seems like we're
segregating and making these little
[35:24] segregating and making these little
[35:24] segregating and making these little
compartments and doing the little
[35:26] compartments and doing the little
[35:26] compartments and doing the little
culveracks and creating the tightness
[35:29] culveracks and creating the tightness
[35:29] culveracks and creating the tightness
and maybe not thinking through
[35:32] and maybe not thinking through
[35:32] and maybe not thinking through
a lot of it. And I think it does go back
[35:34] a lot of it. And I think it does go back
[35:34] a lot of it. And I think it does go back
to setting the taxes off and then maybe
[35:38] to setting the taxes off and then maybe
[35:38] to setting the taxes off and then maybe
that person moves on and then there's
[35:40] that person moves on and then there's
[35:40] that person moves on and then there's
another person that comes in. But the
[35:43] another person that comes in. But the
[35:43] another person that comes in. But the
contract should remain the same. Um, and
[35:46] contract should remain the same. Um, and
[35:46] contract should remain the same. Um, and
the obligation should be the res the
[35:48] the obligation should be the res the
[35:48] the obligation should be the res the
same for whatever development. And let's
[35:51] same for whatever development. And let's
[35:51] same for whatever development. And let's
hope that we don't have the taxes get so
[35:54] hope that we don't have the taxes get so
[35:54] hope that we don't have the taxes get so
high that we can't say to the the owner
[35:56] high that we can't say to the the owner
[35:56] high that we can't say to the the owner
of those areas like the Davis's, we're
[35:59] of those areas like the Davis's, we're
[35:59] of those areas like the Davis's, we're
going to lower your taxes so you can
[36:01] going to lower your taxes so you can
[36:01] going to lower your taxes so you can
keep the cost to the little small
[36:02] keep the cost to the little small
[36:02] keep the cost to the little small
businesses
[36:04] businesses
[36:04] businesses
afloat so that we're not losing
[36:07] afloat so that we're not losing
[36:07] afloat so that we're not losing
businesses during the time. Um we had
[36:10] businesses during the time. Um we had
[36:10] businesses during the time. Um we had
six lanes on University Avenue. We we're
[36:12] six lanes on University Avenue. We we're
[36:12] six lanes on University Avenue. We we're
down to two.
[36:14] down to two.
[36:14] down to two.
You know, it's not two to that area.
[36:17] You know, it's not two to that area.
[36:18] You know, it's not two to that area.
It's all paid for by those taxes. And
[36:20] It's all paid for by those taxes. And
[36:20] It's all paid for by those taxes. And
yet as it runs out now, we're left with
[36:25] yet as it runs out now, we're left with
[36:25] yet as it runs out now, we're left with
we're going to have an expense to put
[36:26] we're going to have an expense to put
[36:26] we're going to have an expense to put
more in. So it all kind of fits together
[36:29] more in. So it all kind of fits together
[36:29] more in. So it all kind of fits together
in a big picture.
[36:31] in a big picture.
[36:31] in a big picture.
Thank you, Miss Jordan. And those are
[36:33] Thank you, Miss Jordan. And those are
[36:33] Thank you, Miss Jordan. And those are
certainly all things we take into
[36:34] certainly all things we take into
[36:34] certainly all things we take into
account when looking at any of these
[36:35] account when looking at any of these
[36:35] account when looking at any of these
agreements as to the value of the
[36:37] agreements as to the value of the
[36:37] agreements as to the value of the
short-term impact on the community for
[36:39] short-term impact on the community for
[36:39] short-term impact on the community for
not receiving that additional, but also
[36:41] not receiving that additional, but also
[36:41] not receiving that additional, but also
for a distressed asset like this that's
[36:43] for a distressed asset like this that's
[36:43] for a distressed asset like this that's
unfortunately sat around for decades
[36:45] unfortunately sat around for decades
[36:45] unfortunately sat around for decades
almost with no additional development,
[36:46] almost with no additional development,
[36:46] almost with no additional development,
the chance to help see some new growth
[36:48] the chance to help see some new growth
[36:48] the chance to help see some new growth
and revitalization in that area. So that
[36:50] and revitalization in that area. So that
[36:50] and revitalization in that area. So that
is something we definitely take into
[36:52] is something we definitely take into
[36:52] is something we definitely take into
account is the trade-off of providing
[36:53] account is the trade-off of providing
[36:54] account is the trade-off of providing
these versus what will we gain as a
[36:55] these versus what will we gain as a
[36:55] these versus what will we gain as a
community from them. So thank you.
[36:59] community from them. So thank you.
[36:59] community from them. So thank you.
All right, any other public comments
[37:00] All right, any other public comments
[37:00] All right, any other public comments
from this item this evening?
[37:04] 
[37:04] Name and address, please.
[37:06] Name and address, please.
[37:06] Name and address, please.
Bob Manning, 2908 West Third Street in
[37:09] Bob Manning, 2908 West Third Street in
[37:10] Bob Manning, 2908 West Third Street in
Cedar Falls. Um, I'd like to take uh the
[37:13] Cedar Falls. Um, I'd like to take uh the
[37:13] Cedar Falls. Um, I'd like to take uh the
opposite uh opinion uh from the previous
[37:16] opposite uh opinion uh from the previous
[37:16] opposite uh opinion uh from the previous
speaker uh not you, Mayor. Um but um I
[37:23] speaker uh not you, Mayor. Um but um I
[37:23] speaker uh not you, Mayor. Um but um I
would like to think that I'm in a silent
[37:24] would like to think that I'm in a silent
[37:24] would like to think that I'm in a silent
majority and I occasionally like to
[37:28] majority and I occasionally like to
[37:28] majority and I occasionally like to
address the council on on some
[37:29] address the council on on some
[37:29] address the council on on some
observations
[37:31] observations
[37:31] observations
and one of them would be that uh even
[37:34] and one of them would be that uh even
[37:34] and one of them would be that uh even
though we call it a silent majority the
[37:36] though we call it a silent majority the
[37:36] though we call it a silent majority the
people that were elected last fall in
[37:38] people that were elected last fall in
[37:38] people that were elected last fall in
this community
[37:40] this community
[37:40] this community
um were overwhelmingly won those
[37:43] um were overwhelmingly won those
[37:43] um were overwhelmingly won those
positions and um it's because of the
[37:47] positions and um it's because of the
[37:47] positions and um it's because of the
quality of the whole administration
[37:49] quality of the whole administration
[37:49] quality of the whole administration
and and where we're at and where we want
[37:52] and and where we're at and where we want
[37:52] and and where we're at and where we want
to go. And it's such a more positive
[37:56] to go. And it's such a more positive
[37:56] to go. And it's such a more positive
influence and conversation in the
[37:58] influence and conversation in the
[37:58] influence and conversation in the
community.
[37:59] community.
[38:00] community.
I appreciate the praise, but could you
[38:01] I appreciate the praise, but could you
[38:01] I appreciate the praise, but could you
also keep it relevant to the item we're
[38:03] also keep it relevant to the item we're
[38:03] also keep it relevant to the item we're
discussing?
[38:04] discussing?
[38:04] discussing?
I should have known you were going to
[38:05] I should have known you were going to
[38:05] I should have known you were going to
say
[38:07] say
[38:08] say
um the uh it's not uncommon in the
[38:10] um the uh it's not uncommon in the
[38:10] um the uh it's not uncommon in the
development world to have tax abatement
[38:14] development world to have tax abatement
[38:14] development world to have tax abatement
or tax tax rebates uh proposed and and
[38:17] or tax tax rebates uh proposed and and
[38:17] or tax tax rebates uh proposed and and
approved for people. that's very much
[38:20] approved for people. that's very much
[38:20] approved for people. that's very much
thorough throughout the the real estate
[38:22] thorough throughout the the real estate
[38:22] thorough throughout the the real estate
business and real estate has been slow.
[38:25] business and real estate has been slow.
[38:25] business and real estate has been slow.
Uh I mean we've read about Houston where
[38:27] Uh I mean we've read about Houston where
[38:27] Uh I mean we've read about Houston where
I've got an old classmate living there
[38:29] I've got an old classmate living there
[38:29] I've got an old classmate living there
and he says, "Boy, the empty buildings
[38:31] and he says, "Boy, the empty buildings
[38:31] and he says, "Boy, the empty buildings
are really something." Um and so
[38:34] are really something." Um and so
[38:34] are really something." Um and so
sometimes we have to be a little bit
[38:36] sometimes we have to be a little bit
[38:36] sometimes we have to be a little bit
more creative on working with those
[38:38] more creative on working with those
[38:38] more creative on working with those
buyers and and investors and and uh and
[38:42] buyers and and investors and and uh and
[38:42] buyers and and investors and and uh and
I think that's what we're doing here.
[38:44] I think that's what we're doing here.
[38:44] I think that's what we're doing here.
And so if I can throw in one more
[38:47] And so if I can throw in one more
[38:47] And so if I can throw in one more
comment, I commend you for all for doing
[38:48] comment, I commend you for all for doing
[38:48] comment, I commend you for all for doing
that.
[38:51] that.
[38:51] that.
Thank you, Mr. Manning.
[38:53] Thank you, Mr. Manning.
[38:53] Thank you, Mr. Manning.
There any other public comments on this
[38:55] There any other public comments on this
[38:55] There any other public comments on this
item this evening?
[38:57] item this evening?
[38:58] item this evening?
All right. Seeing none, we'll close the
[38:59] All right. Seeing none, we'll close the
[38:59] All right. Seeing none, we'll close the
public hearing and look for a motion on
[39:01] public hearing and look for a motion on
[39:01] public hearing and look for a motion on
a resolution determining an area of the
[39:03] a resolution determining an area of the
[39:03] a resolution determining an area of the
city to be an economic development area
[39:05] city to be an economic development area
[39:05] city to be an economic development area
and that the rehabilitation,
[39:07] and that the rehabilitation,
[39:07] and that the rehabilitation,
conservation, redevelopment,
[39:08] conservation, redevelopment,
[39:08] conservation, redevelopment,
development, or a combination thereof of
[39:10] development, or a combination thereof of
[39:10] development, or a combination thereof of
such area is necessary and the interest
[39:12] such area is necessary and the interest
[39:12] such area is necessary and the interest
of the public health, safety or welfare
[39:15] of the public health, safety or welfare
[39:15] of the public health, safety or welfare
of the residents of the city,
[39:16] of the residents of the city,
[39:16] of the residents of the city,
designating such area as appropriate for
[39:18] designating such area as appropriate for
[39:18] designating such area as appropriate for
urban renewal projects, and adopting the
[39:20] urban renewal projects, and adopting the
[39:20] urban renewal projects, and adopting the
University Avenue corridor urban renewal
[39:22] University Avenue corridor urban renewal
[39:22] University Avenue corridor urban renewal
plan. So move
[39:23] plan. So move
[39:23] plan. So move
second.
[39:24] second.
[39:24] second.
Motion seconded. And any discussion from
[39:26] Motion seconded. And any discussion from
[39:26] Motion seconded. And any discussion from
council,
[39:28] council,
[39:28] council,
Mr. Mayor?
[39:29] Mr. Mayor?
[39:29] Mr. Mayor?
Yep. Go ahead, Greg.
[39:31] Yep. Go ahead, Greg.
[39:31] Yep. Go ahead, Greg.
Mr. Mayor.
[39:34] Mr. Mayor.
[39:34] Mr. Mayor.
Yeah, go ahead.
[39:34] Yeah, go ahead.
[39:34] Yeah, go ahead.
I'm not I'm not one for tax abatements.
[39:37] I'm not I'm not one for tax abatements.
[39:38] I'm not I'm not one for tax abatements.
However,
[39:39] However,
[39:39] However,
um this is one that sorely needs help.
[39:42] um this is one that sorely needs help.
[39:42] um this is one that sorely needs help.
This investor stepped up, a local person
[39:46] This investor stepped up, a local person
[39:46] This investor stepped up, a local person
to make this happen. None of us wants to
[39:49] to make this happen. None of us wants to
[39:49] to make this happen. None of us wants to
see a bulldozed property continue to
[39:52] see a bulldozed property continue to
[39:52] see a bulldozed property continue to
that a property that that people view
[39:55] that a property that that people view
[39:55] that a property that that people view
should be bulldozed and start over such
[39:57] should be bulldozed and start over such
[39:57] should be bulldozed and start over such
as the one in Waterlue. This has great
[39:59] as the one in Waterlue. This has great
[39:59] as the one in Waterlue. This has great
opportunity and uh this is certainly
[40:02] opportunity and uh this is certainly
[40:02] opportunity and uh this is certainly
worthy of um some help and abatement to
[40:07] worthy of um some help and abatement to
[40:07] worthy of um some help and abatement to
u push this project along. I wish them
[40:09] u push this project along. I wish them
[40:09] u push this project along. I wish them
the best of luck.
[40:12] the best of luck.
[40:12] the best of luck.
Thank you counselor. You know, the test
[40:14] Thank you counselor. You know, the test
[40:14] Thank you counselor. You know, the test
question is always or the wherefor but
[40:18] question is always or the wherefor but
[40:18] question is always or the wherefor but
test. Did I say that right?
[40:20] test. Did I say that right?
[40:20] test. Did I say that right?
Of would this happen without the
[40:21] Of would this happen without the
[40:21] Of would this happen without the
incentive. And I think this is a perfect
[40:23] incentive. And I think this is a perfect
[40:23] incentive. And I think this is a perfect
example of this project has sat long
[40:25] example of this project has sat long
[40:25] example of this project has sat long
enough. I think it's kind of proved that
[40:27] enough. I think it's kind of proved that
[40:27] enough. I think it's kind of proved that
without some support and a big
[40:29] without some support and a big
[40:29] without some support and a big
opportunity and risk from a local
[40:31] opportunity and risk from a local
[40:31] opportunity and risk from a local
investor to say we're going to take this
[40:33] investor to say we're going to take this
[40:33] investor to say we're going to take this
on it may not have gone anywhere. So
[40:36] on it may not have gone anywhere. So
[40:36] on it may not have gone anywhere. So
any additional thoughts from council?
[40:40] any additional thoughts from council?
[40:40] any additional thoughts from council?
Otherwise requires a roll call vote
[40:42] Otherwise requires a roll call vote
[40:42] Otherwise requires a roll call vote
please.
[40:46] 
[40:46] I get my legal terms.
[40:47] I get my legal terms.
[40:47] I get my legal terms.
It's a button four test, but that's
[40:49] It's a button four test, but that's
[40:49] It's a button four test, but that's
okay.
[40:49] okay.
[40:49] okay.
Yeah, that's all right.
[40:50] Yeah, that's all right.
[40:50] Yeah, that's all right.
That's just like an old
[40:53] That's just like an old
[40:53] That's just like an old
m Mr. Mayor. I
[40:56] m Mr. Mayor. I
[40:56] m Mr. Mayor. I
This isn't working.
[40:58] This isn't working.
[40:58] This isn't working.
Thank you, councelor.
[40:59] Thank you, councelor.
[40:59] Thank you, councelor.
All members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[41:01] All members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[41:01] All members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, madam clerk. That motion
[41:02] Thank you, madam clerk. That motion
[41:02] Thank you, madam clerk. That motion
carries. That takes us to item number
[41:04] carries. That takes us to item number
[41:04] carries. That takes us to item number
four. uh pass an ordinance providing
[41:06] four. uh pass an ordinance providing
[41:06] four. uh pass an ordinance providing
that general property taxes levied and
[41:08] that general property taxes levied and
[41:08] that general property taxes levied and
collected each year on all property
[41:10] collected each year on all property
[41:10] collected each year on all property
located within the University Avenue
[41:11] located within the University Avenue
[41:11] located within the University Avenue
corridor urban renewal plan in the city
[41:13] corridor urban renewal plan in the city
[41:13] corridor urban renewal plan in the city
of Cedar Falls, County of Blackhawk,
[41:15] of Cedar Falls, County of Blackhawk,
[41:15] of Cedar Falls, County of Blackhawk,
State of Iowa by and for the benefit of
[41:17] State of Iowa by and for the benefit of
[41:17] State of Iowa by and for the benefit of
the state of Iowa, city of Cedar Falls,
[41:19] the state of Iowa, city of Cedar Falls,
[41:19] the state of Iowa, city of Cedar Falls,
County of Blackhawk, Cedar Falls
[41:20] County of Blackhawk, Cedar Falls
[41:20] County of Blackhawk, Cedar Falls
Community School District, and other
[41:21] Community School District, and other
[41:21] Community School District, and other
taxing districts be paid to a special
[41:24] taxing districts be paid to a special
[41:24] taxing districts be paid to a special
fund for payment of principal and
[41:25] fund for payment of principal and
[41:25] fund for payment of principal and
interest on loans. Money is advanced to
[41:27] interest on loans. Money is advanced to
[41:27] interest on loans. Money is advanced to
an indebtedness including bonds issued
[41:29] an indebtedness including bonds issued
[41:29] an indebtedness including bonds issued
or to be issued incurred by the city in
[41:31] or to be issued incurred by the city in
[41:31] or to be issued incurred by the city in
connection with the University Avenue
[41:33] connection with the University Avenue
[41:33] connection with the University Avenue
corridor urban renewal area also known
[41:35] corridor urban renewal area also known
[41:35] corridor urban renewal area also known
as the University Avenue corridor urban
[41:37] as the University Avenue corridor urban
[41:37] as the University Avenue corridor urban
renewal plan upon its first
[41:38] renewal plan upon its first
[41:38] renewal plan upon its first
consideration clearly contingent upon
[41:40] consideration clearly contingent upon
[41:40] consideration clearly contingent upon
the previous item.
[41:42] the previous item.
[41:42] the previous item.
So move
[41:43] So move
[41:43] So move
second motion seconded and any
[41:44] second motion seconded and any
[41:44] second motion seconded and any
discussion from council and as I just
[41:46] discussion from council and as I just
[41:46] discussion from council and as I just
said clearly this is the follow-up
[41:48] said clearly this is the follow-up
[41:48] said clearly this is the follow-up
approval for that urban renewal area.
[41:51] approval for that urban renewal area.
[41:51] approval for that urban renewal area.
Shane can answer that better if you need
[41:53] Shane can answer that better if you need
[41:53] Shane can answer that better if you need
him to.
[41:54] him to.
[41:54] him to.
All right. Seeing none, any from the
[41:56] All right. Seeing none, any from the
[41:56] All right. Seeing none, any from the
public?
[41:58] public?
[41:58] public?
And also seeing none, requires a roll
[42:00] And also seeing none, requires a roll
[42:00] And also seeing none, requires a roll
call vote, please.
[42:04] 
[42:04] And a voice vote from you, Craig.
[42:10] 
[42:10] Frozen.
[42:12] Frozen.
[42:12] Frozen.
He just We just lost him.
[42:14] He just We just lost him.
[42:14] He just We just lost him.
Did we lose him?
[42:15] Did we lose him?
[42:16] Did we lose him?
He froze and then we lost.
[42:18] He froze and then we lost.
[42:18] He froze and then we lost.
Okay, we'll put him as a absent.
[42:21] Okay, we'll put him as a absent.
[42:21] Okay, we'll put him as a absent.
Why?
[42:26] 
[42:26] Six voting I. Mr. Mayor.
[42:29] Six voting I. Mr. Mayor.
[42:29] Six voting I. Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, Madam Clerk and Council
[42:31] Thank you, Madam Clerk and Council
[42:31] Thank you, Madam Clerk and Council
Member Fairbanks. We lost anyone
[42:32] Member Fairbanks. We lost anyone
[42:32] Member Fairbanks. We lost anyone
watching. We lost him from the the Zoom
[42:34] watching. We lost him from the the Zoom
[42:34] watching. We lost him from the the Zoom
call. So, we'll consider him absent till
[42:36] call. So, we'll consider him absent till
[42:36] call. So, we'll consider him absent till
he jumps back on. Uh, that moves us to
[42:38] he jumps back on. Uh, that moves us to
[42:38] he jumps back on. Uh, that moves us to
the consent calendar. The following
[42:39] the consent calendar. The following
[42:39] the consent calendar. The following
items will be acted upon by a voice vote
[42:41] items will be acted upon by a voice vote
[42:41] items will be acted upon by a voice vote
and a single motion with a separate
[42:43] and a single motion with a separate
[42:43] and a single motion with a separate
discussion unless someone from the
[42:44] discussion unless someone from the
[42:44] discussion unless someone from the
council or public request otherwise. Are
[42:46] council or public request otherwise. Are
[42:46] council or public request otherwise. Are
there any requests from council? It's a
[42:48] there any requests from council? It's a
[42:48] there any requests from council? It's a
long one.
[42:49] long one.
[42:49] long one.
Yeah, three.
[42:51] Yeah, three.
[42:51] Yeah, three.
And any from the public? Excuse me.
[42:55] And any from the public? Excuse me.
[42:55] And any from the public? Excuse me.
All right. Seeing none, I'll look for a
[42:56] All right. Seeing none, I'll look for a
[42:56] All right. Seeing none, I'll look for a
motion to approve items 5 through seven
[42:58] motion to approve items 5 through seven
[42:58] motion to approve items 5 through seven
of the consent calendar.
[42:59] of the consent calendar.
[42:59] of the consent calendar.
So move second.
[43:00] So move second.
[43:00] So move second.
Motion seconded. And all those in favor?
[43:03] Motion seconded. And all those in favor?
[43:03] Motion seconded. And all those in favor?
I.
[43:04] I.
[43:04] I.
All opposed. That motion carries. Takes
[43:06] All opposed. That motion carries. Takes
[43:06] All opposed. That motion carries. Takes
us to the resolution calendar. Same
[43:08] us to the resolution calendar. Same
[43:08] us to the resolution calendar. Same
thing. The following items will be act
[43:09] thing. The following items will be act
[43:09] thing. The following items will be act
upon by roll call vote and single motion
[43:11] upon by roll call vote and single motion
[43:11] upon by roll call vote and single motion
unless requested otherwise. Are there
[43:13] unless requested otherwise. Are there
[43:13] unless requested otherwise. Are there
any requests from council?
[43:14] any requests from council?
[43:14] any requests from council?
Poll number nine.
[43:16] Poll number nine.
[43:16] Poll number nine.
Yep. And I was going to do that. So poll
[43:18] Yep. And I was going to do that. So poll
[43:18] Yep. And I was going to do that. So poll
number nine,
[43:18] number nine,
[43:18] number nine,
Mr. Mayor. Number 20.
[43:22] Mr. Mayor. Number 20.
[43:22] Mr. Mayor. Number 20.
number 20.
[43:25] number 20.
[43:25] number 20.
Any others from council?
[43:28] Any others from council?
[43:28] Any others from council?
Right. Seeing none and any from the
[43:30] Right. Seeing none and any from the
[43:30] Right. Seeing none and any from the
public.
[43:33] 
[43:33] All right. Also seeing none, I'll look
[43:34] All right. Also seeing none, I'll look
[43:34] All right. Also seeing none, I'll look
for a motion to approve items 8 through
[43:37] for a motion to approve items 8 through
[43:37] for a motion to approve items 8 through
26 of the resolution calendar excluding
[43:40] 26 of the resolution calendar excluding
[43:40] 26 of the resolution calendar excluding
items 9 and 20.
[43:42] items 9 and 20.
[43:42] items 9 and 20.
So second motion seconded and roll call
[43:45] So second motion seconded and roll call
[43:45] So second motion seconded and roll call
vote, please.
[43:47] vote, please.
[43:47] vote, please.
I.
[43:48] I.
[43:48] I.
Welcome back, Greg. Council Fairbanks
[43:52] Welcome back, Greg. Council Fairbanks
[43:52] Welcome back, Greg. Council Fairbanks
good internet service.
[43:58] 
[43:58] All members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[43:59] All members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[43:59] All members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
[44:00] Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
[44:00] Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
carries. Takes us to item number nine.
[44:03] carries. Takes us to item number nine.
[44:03] carries. Takes us to item number nine.
Look for a motion resolution approving
[44:04] Look for a motion resolution approving
[44:04] Look for a motion resolution approving
the recommendation and appointing the
[44:06] the recommendation and appointing the
[44:06] the recommendation and appointing the
uni student liaison to the Cedar Falls
[44:09] uni student liaison to the Cedar Falls
[44:09] uni student liaison to the Cedar Falls
City Council.
[44:09] City Council.
[44:09] City Council.
So moved.
[44:10] So moved.
[44:10] So moved.
Second.
[44:11] Second.
[44:11] Second.
Motion and seconded and open for
[44:13] Motion and seconded and open for
[44:13] Motion and seconded and open for
discussion. And I believe Emma or excuse
[44:16] discussion. And I believe Emma or excuse
[44:16] discussion. And I believe Emma or excuse
me, Ella.
[44:18] me, Ella.
[44:18] me, Ella.
And if you'd like to just jump up and
[44:20] And if you'd like to just jump up and
[44:20] And if you'd like to just jump up and
introduce yourself if everyone's okay
[44:21] introduce yourself if everyone's okay
[44:21] introduce yourself if everyone's okay
with that before we
[44:22] with that before we
[44:22] with that before we
we haven't had a chance to meet yet. So
[44:23] we haven't had a chance to meet yet. So
[44:23] we haven't had a chance to meet yet. So
I was like I think that's her. So it's
[44:25] I was like I think that's her. So it's
[44:26] I was like I think that's her. So it's
great to have you here.
[44:27] great to have you here.
[44:27] great to have you here.
Great to be here.
[44:29] Great to be here.
[44:29] Great to be here.
Okay. So I'm Ella Drilling. I'm
[44:31] Okay. So I'm Ella Drilling. I'm
[44:31] Okay. So I'm Ella Drilling. I'm
currently a junior at the University of
[44:33] currently a junior at the University of
[44:33] currently a junior at the University of
Northern Iowa. I uh graduate early, so
[44:37] Northern Iowa. I uh graduate early, so
[44:37] Northern Iowa. I uh graduate early, so
this is actually only my sophomore year.
[44:39] this is actually only my sophomore year.
[44:39] this is actually only my sophomore year.
Uh I just found out about student
[44:41] Uh I just found out about student
[44:41] Uh I just found out about student
government this last year. So I applied
[44:43] government this last year. So I applied
[44:43] government this last year. So I applied
for almost every single position and
[44:45] for almost every single position and
[44:45] for almost every single position and
this one was my favorite. Uh, I am a
[44:48] this one was my favorite. Uh, I am a
[44:48] this one was my favorite. Uh, I am a
business administration and management
[44:50] business administration and management
[44:50] business administration and management
information system major with a minor in
[44:53] information system major with a minor in
[44:53] information system major with a minor in
business communications as well. So, I
[44:55] business communications as well. So, I
[44:55] business communications as well. So, I
plan to go into management or HR. Not
[44:59] plan to go into management or HR. Not
[44:59] plan to go into management or HR. Not
quite sure yet, but I absolutely love
[45:02] quite sure yet, but I absolutely love
[45:02] quite sure yet, but I absolutely love
Cedar Falls. I'm not from here, so this
[45:04] Cedar Falls. I'm not from here, so this
[45:04] Cedar Falls. I'm not from here, so this
is the first time I've actually been
[45:06] is the first time I've actually been
[45:06] is the first time I've actually been
here, and it's welcomed me greatly. And
[45:10] here, and it's welcomed me greatly. And
[45:10] here, and it's welcomed me greatly. And
I actually work for the real estate
[45:11] I actually work for the real estate
[45:12] I actually work for the real estate
agent here as well to help other people
[45:15] agent here as well to help other people
[45:15] agent here as well to help other people
find their home in Cedar Falls as well
[45:16] find their home in Cedar Falls as well
[45:16] find their home in Cedar Falls as well
too.
[45:17] too.
[45:17] too.
Where you from originally?
[45:19] Where you from originally?
[45:19] Where you from originally?
I'm from Wacoma.
[45:21] I'm from Wacoma.
[45:21] I'm from Wacoma.
A very very small town from New Hampton.
[45:23] A very very small town from New Hampton.
[45:23] A very very small town from New Hampton.
Yep.
[45:24] Yep.
[45:24] Yep.
We have maybe 200 people.
[45:25] We have maybe 200 people.
[45:25] We have maybe 200 people.
Wow.
[45:26] Wow.
[45:26] Wow.
We'll all do the Ian thing. We're like,
[45:27] We'll all do the Ian thing. We're like,
[45:27] We'll all do the Ian thing. We're like,
"Oh yeah, we know. We know what we've
[45:29] "Oh yeah, we know. We know what we've
[45:29] "Oh yeah, we know. We know what we've
been there. Been there. Great
[45:31] been there. Been there. Great
[45:31] been there. Been there. Great
great gas station."
[45:35] great gas station."
[45:35] great gas station."
So well, thank you for being willing to
[45:36] So well, thank you for being willing to
[45:36] So well, thank you for being willing to
join the team and looking forward to
[45:38] join the team and looking forward to
[45:38] join the team and looking forward to
having you on.
[45:39] having you on.
[45:39] having you on.
Of course. any
[45:39] Of course. any
[45:39] Of course. any
thank you so much
[45:40] thank you so much
[45:40] thank you so much
discussion thoughts from council or
[45:41] discussion thoughts from council or
[45:42] discussion thoughts from council or
questions for
[45:43] questions for
[45:43] questions for
thank you for being willing
[45:45] thank you for being willing
[45:45] thank you for being willing
thank you
[45:45] thank you
[45:45] thank you
thank you so then that will be your seat
[45:47] thank you so then that will be your seat
[45:47] thank you so then that will be your seat
right over there
[45:48] right over there
[45:48] right over there
but so we'll get it well assuming I
[45:50] but so we'll get it well assuming I
[45:50] but so we'll get it well assuming I
don't want to be presumptuous council
[45:52] don't want to be presumptuous council
[45:52] don't want to be presumptuous council
has to vote for it
[45:53] has to vote for it
[45:53] has to vote for it
but looking forward to having you on the
[45:54] but looking forward to having you on the
[45:54] but looking forward to having you on the
team and appreciate you coming out
[45:56] team and appreciate you coming out
[45:56] team and appreciate you coming out
tonight
[45:56] tonight
[45:56] tonight
I'm worried about
[46:00] 
[46:00] Chris is a little squirly
[46:01] Chris is a little squirly
[46:01] Chris is a little squirly
always should be
[46:03] always should be
[46:03] always should be
so thank you again
[46:04] so thank you again
[46:04] so thank you again
thank you
[46:06] thank you
[46:06] thank you
any other discussion from council for I
[46:09] any other discussion from council for I
[46:09] any other discussion from council for I
got to go back to public comment too.
[46:10] got to go back to public comment too.
[46:10] got to go back to public comment too.
But right others, any comment from the
[46:12] But right others, any comment from the
[46:12] But right others, any comment from the
public from your fellow uni students
[46:15] public from your fellow uni students
[46:15] public from your fellow uni students
over here also attending for on behalf
[46:17] over here also attending for on behalf
[46:17] over here also attending for on behalf
of one of the classes. Had to give you a
[46:19] of one of the classes. Had to give you a
[46:19] of one of the classes. Had to give you a
shout out at some point. All right,
[46:21] shout out at some point. All right,
[46:21] shout out at some point. All right,
seeing none, any further discussion from
[46:22] seeing none, any further discussion from
[46:22] seeing none, any further discussion from
councel and otherwise requires a roll
[46:25] councel and otherwise requires a roll
[46:25] councel and otherwise requires a roll
call vote please.
[46:28] call vote please.
[46:28] call vote please.
I
[46:29] I
[46:29] I
thank you councelor.
[46:30] thank you councelor.
[46:30] thank you councelor.
You got one vote over there. It's
[46:32] You got one vote over there. It's
[46:32] You got one vote over there. It's
unanimous.
[46:33] unanimous.
[46:33] unanimous.
Members voting I may.
[46:34] Members voting I may.
[46:34] Members voting I may.
Thank you madam clerk and welcome to the
[46:35] Thank you madam clerk and welcome to the
[46:35] Thank you madam clerk and welcome to the
team. Looking forward to having you next
[46:37] team. Looking forward to having you next
[46:37] team. Looking forward to having you next
time.
[46:38] time.
[46:38] time.
All right, that takes us to item number
[46:40] All right, that takes us to item number
[46:40] All right, that takes us to item number
20. Look for a motion and resolution
[46:42] 20. Look for a motion and resolution
[46:42] 20. Look for a motion and resolution
approving the preliminary plat of
[46:43] approving the preliminary plat of
[46:43] approving the preliminary plat of
Westport Crossing.
[46:44] Westport Crossing.
[46:44] Westport Crossing.
So moved.
[46:46] So moved.
[46:46] So moved.
Motion seconded and counselor.
[46:48] Motion seconded and counselor.
[46:48] Motion seconded and counselor.
So the reason I pulled this item is uh,
[46:52] So the reason I pulled this item is uh,
[46:52] So the reason I pulled this item is uh,
you know, just to kind of draw attention
[46:54] you know, just to kind of draw attention
[46:54] you know, just to kind of draw attention
or kind of acknowledge, you know, a
[46:57] or kind of acknowledge, you know, a
[46:57] or kind of acknowledge, you know, a
little bit of struggle I'm having. Uh, I
[47:00] little bit of struggle I'm having. Uh, I
[47:00] little bit of struggle I'm having. Uh, I
realize that originally this had been
[47:02] realize that originally this had been
[47:02] realize that originally this had been
approved. the first prelim preliminary
[47:05] approved. the first prelim preliminary
[47:05] approved. the first prelim preliminary
plat expired. Uh which brings us to
[47:08] plat expired. Uh which brings us to
[47:08] plat expired. Uh which brings us to
this. In the meantime, uh our us this
[47:12] this. In the meantime, uh our us this
[47:12] this. In the meantime, uh our us this
body adopted um you know policy
[47:17] body adopted um you know policy
[47:17] body adopted um you know policy
regarding uh street connectivity
[47:19] regarding uh street connectivity
[47:19] regarding uh street connectivity
standards.
[47:21] standards.
[47:21] standards.
Um so you know I I obviously reading
[47:23] Um so you know I I obviously reading
[47:23] Um so you know I I obviously reading
through the packet you can see the work
[47:25] through the packet you can see the work
[47:25] through the packet you can see the work
that's been done between the developer
[47:28] that's been done between the developer
[47:28] that's been done between the developer
and staff and I can appreciate that. Um
[47:31] and staff and I can appreciate that. Um
[47:31] and staff and I can appreciate that. Um
there were a few things that you know um
[47:35] there were a few things that you know um
[47:35] there were a few things that you know um
were brought up and there was reasons
[47:37] were brought up and there was reasons
[47:37] were brought up and there was reasons
given why it couldn't be done by the
[47:38] given why it couldn't be done by the
[47:38] given why it couldn't be done by the
developer. I guess the struggle that I
[47:41] developer. I guess the struggle that I
[47:41] developer. I guess the struggle that I
have is at some point um you know
[47:45] have is at some point um you know
[47:45] have is at some point um you know
it's it's a standard for a reason and
[47:47] it's it's a standard for a reason and
[47:47] it's it's a standard for a reason and
the standard is in my mind for the
[47:50] the standard is in my mind for the
[47:50] the standard is in my mind for the
future of uh that part of the community
[47:55] future of uh that part of the community
[47:55] future of uh that part of the community
and um
[47:57] and um
[47:57] and um
so I I just have some and you know I
[47:59] so I I just have some and you know I
[47:59] so I I just have some and you know I
know it went through planning and zoning
[48:01] know it went through planning and zoning
[48:01] know it went through planning and zoning
planning and zoning has given their
[48:02] planning and zoning has given their
[48:02] planning and zoning has given their
blessing so that you know I can
[48:04] blessing so that you know I can
[48:04] blessing so that you know I can
appreciate that process I but I just I
[48:06] appreciate that process I but I just I
[48:06] appreciate that process I but I just I
wanted to bring it
[48:09] wanted to bring it
[48:09] wanted to bring it
I know how I'm going to vote. Um because
[48:12] I know how I'm going to vote. Um because
[48:12] I know how I'm going to vote. Um because
at some point I feel like we have to say
[48:14] at some point I feel like we have to say
[48:14] at some point I feel like we have to say
no, this is the standard and you have to
[48:16] no, this is the standard and you have to
[48:16] no, this is the standard and you have to
comply with it and um you know so just
[48:21] comply with it and um you know so just
[48:21] comply with it and um you know so just
want to bring that up that
[48:23] want to bring that up that
[48:23] want to bring that up that
um there is some parts that aren't
[48:26] um there is some parts that aren't
[48:26] um there is some parts that aren't
meeting the standards that we have in
[48:27] meeting the standards that we have in
[48:27] meeting the standards that we have in
place.
[48:29] place.
[48:29] place.
Thank you counselor.
[48:32] Thank you counselor.
[48:32] Thank you counselor.
Any other thoughts, discussion with
[48:33] Any other thoughts, discussion with
[48:33] Any other thoughts, discussion with
council?
[48:36] 
[48:36] Mr. Mayor?
[48:38] Mr. Mayor?
[48:38] Mr. Mayor?
Yep. Go ahead,
[48:39] Yep. Go ahead,
[48:39] Yep. Go ahead,
Mr. Mr. Mr. Mayor. Um, you know, I
[48:42] Mr. Mr. Mr. Mayor. Um, you know, I
[48:42] Mr. Mr. Mr. Mayor. Um, you know, I
respect Kelly's comments. However,
[48:45] respect Kelly's comments. However,
[48:45] respect Kelly's comments. However,
one of the things that has vastly
[48:48] one of the things that has vastly
[48:48] one of the things that has vastly
bothered me um in the development
[48:50] bothered me um in the development
[48:50] bothered me um in the development
process is the city doesn't build in
[48:53] process is the city doesn't build in
[48:54] process is the city doesn't build in
some flexibility. When when I read this,
[48:56] some flexibility. When when I read this,
[48:56] some flexibility. When when I read this,
I was actually very encouraged to see
[48:58] I was actually very encouraged to see
[48:58] I was actually very encouraged to see
that that some of the standards that
[49:00] that that some of the standards that
[49:00] that that some of the standards that
maybe didn't work for this particular
[49:02] maybe didn't work for this particular
[49:02] maybe didn't work for this particular
situation were eased so that it could
[49:05] situation were eased so that it could
[49:05] situation were eased so that it could
happen and it could work for everybody.
[49:07] happen and it could work for everybody.
[49:07] happen and it could work for everybody.
Um, I understand rules. I understand how
[49:10] Um, I understand rules. I understand how
[49:10] Um, I understand rules. I understand how
that all works. But, um, to keep things
[49:14] that all works. But, um, to keep things
[49:14] that all works. But, um, to keep things
moving forward to make it work for
[49:15] moving forward to make it work for
[49:16] moving forward to make it work for
everybody, I think there has to be
[49:17] everybody, I think there has to be
[49:17] everybody, I think there has to be
exceptions to the rule. And, uh, you
[49:20] exceptions to the rule. And, uh, you
[49:20] exceptions to the rule. And, uh, you
know, and I and I and I fully understand
[49:24] know, and I and I and I fully understand
[49:24] know, and I and I and I fully understand
where Kelly is at. And, uh, I think
[49:27] where Kelly is at. And, uh, I think
[49:27] where Kelly is at. And, uh, I think
there should be rules for everybody, but
[49:29] there should be rules for everybody, but
[49:29] there should be rules for everybody, but
in this particular situation, I think
[49:31] in this particular situation, I think
[49:31] in this particular situation, I think
that some flexibility, some flexibility
[49:33] that some flexibility, some flexibility
[49:33] that some flexibility, some flexibility
is is warranted. Um and uh but I do
[49:37] is is warranted. Um and uh but I do
[49:37] is is warranted. Um and uh but I do
appreciate all the comments.
[49:40] appreciate all the comments.
[49:40] appreciate all the comments.
Thank you counselor.
[49:41] Thank you counselor.
[49:41] Thank you counselor.
Mr. Mayor, if I may.
[49:42] Mr. Mayor, if I may.
[49:42] Mr. Mayor, if I may.
Yeah, go ahead.
[49:43] Yeah, go ahead.
[49:43] Yeah, go ahead.
Actually, um
[49:45] Actually, um
[49:45] Actually, um
the flexibility is built into our
[49:48] the flexibility is built into our
[49:48] the flexibility is built into our
standards that does allow for
[49:49] standards that does allow for
[49:49] standards that does allow for
adjustments if certain criterias are
[49:51] adjustments if certain criterias are
[49:51] adjustments if certain criterias are
met. Um then the devil's in the details.
[49:55] met. Um then the devil's in the details.
[49:55] met. Um then the devil's in the details.
I don't disagree with you is that you
[49:57] I don't disagree with you is that you
[49:57] I don't disagree with you is that you
know how far is the bend and you know
[49:59] know how far is the bend and you know
[49:59] know how far is the bend and you know
that that's kind of in the discretion of
[50:01] that that's kind of in the discretion of
[50:02] that that's kind of in the discretion of
of the staff and then ultimately
[50:03] of the staff and then ultimately
[50:03] of the staff and then ultimately
approval of PNZ and us and I think it's
[50:07] approval of PNZ and us and I think it's
[50:07] approval of PNZ and us and I think it's
this one's well reasoned. I I do think
[50:09] this one's well reasoned. I I do think
[50:09] this one's well reasoned. I I do think
that it's always kind of dependent upon
[50:11] that it's always kind of dependent upon
[50:12] that it's always kind of dependent upon
the property that the the uh subdivision
[50:14] the property that the the uh subdivision
[50:14] the property that the the uh subdivision
is proposed for. um and it comes real
[50:19] is proposed for. um and it comes real
[50:19] is proposed for. um and it comes real
close and so I think the adjustments
[50:21] close and so I think the adjustments
[50:21] close and so I think the adjustments
were there that were made were made
[50:23] were there that were made were made
[50:23] were there that were made were made
consistent with those allowances that we
[50:25] consistent with those allowances that we
[50:25] consistent with those allowances that we
did do have in our standards. So I'm
[50:27] did do have in our standards. So I'm
[50:27] did do have in our standards. So I'm
okay with it.
[50:29] okay with it.
[50:29] okay with it.
Thank you counselor.
[50:31] Thank you counselor.
[50:31] Thank you counselor.
Any additional thoughts conversation
[50:33] Any additional thoughts conversation
[50:33] Any additional thoughts conversation
from councel
[50:36] from councel
[50:36] from councel
and any from the public?
[50:39] and any from the public?
[50:39] and any from the public?
You know at some point I'm going to
[50:40] You know at some point I'm going to
[50:40] You know at some point I'm going to
start requiring you guys to have to
[50:42] start requiring you guys to have to
[50:42] start requiring you guys to have to
comment on at least one item.
[50:43] comment on at least one item.
[50:43] comment on at least one item.
That's part of that's the how you get
[50:45] That's part of that's the how you get
[50:45] That's part of that's the how you get
credit, right? You had to participate.
[50:47] credit, right? You had to participate.
[50:47] credit, right? You had to participate.
You had to participate.
[50:48] You had to participate.
[50:48] You had to participate.
No. All right. Next time. All right.
[50:51] No. All right. Next time. All right.
[50:51] No. All right. Next time. All right.
We're seeing none. Any additional
[50:53] We're seeing none. Any additional
[50:53] We're seeing none. Any additional
conversation?
[50:54] conversation?
[50:54] conversation?
As a roll call vote, please.
[50:58] As a roll call vote, please.
[50:58] As a roll call vote, please.
Fairbanks votes I
[51:02] Fairbanks votes I
[51:02] Fairbanks votes I
received. Thank you.
[51:03] received. Thank you.
[51:03] received. Thank you.
Well, you can you can hear me now.
[51:05] Well, you can you can hear me now.
[51:05] Well, you can you can hear me now.
Yep, we can hear you now.
[51:07] Yep, we can hear you now.
[51:07] Yep, we can hear you now.
Six voting I, one voting nay, Mr. Mayor.
[51:09] Six voting I, one voting nay, Mr. Mayor.
[51:09] Six voting I, one voting nay, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
[51:10] Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
[51:10] Thank you, Madam Clerk. That motion
carries. And that takes us to bills and
[51:12] carries. And that takes us to bills and
[51:12] carries. And that takes us to bills and
claims. Do we have a motion to allow
[51:13] claims. Do we have a motion to allow
[51:13] claims. Do we have a motion to allow
bills and claims for October 5th? So
[51:15] bills and claims for October 5th? So
[51:15] bills and claims for October 5th? So
move
[51:15] move
[51:15] move
second
[51:16] second
[51:16] second
motion second. Any discussion from
[51:17] motion second. Any discussion from
[51:17] motion second. Any discussion from
council and any from the public? Seeing
[51:21] council and any from the public? Seeing
[51:21] council and any from the public? Seeing
none requires a roll call vote, please.
[51:26] 
[51:26] Airbank still votes. I
[51:35] 
[51:35] few missing. Did it go through? You
[51:36] few missing. Did it go through? You
[51:36] few missing. Did it go through? You
might have to.
[51:39] might have to.
[51:39] might have to.
Am I missing for Tom, Aaron, and Hannah?
[51:42] Am I missing for Tom, Aaron, and Hannah?
[51:42] Am I missing for Tom, Aaron, and Hannah?
No. world.
[51:43] No. world.
[51:43] No. world.
I did it once.
[51:44] I did it once.
[51:44] I did it once.
I just have to refresh it.
[51:45] I just have to refresh it.
[51:45] I just have to refresh it.
I did refresh it that time.
[51:47] I did refresh it that time.
[51:47] I did refresh it that time.
Members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[51:48] Members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
[51:48] Members voting I, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you, madam clerk. That motion
[51:49] Thank you, madam clerk. That motion
[51:49] Thank you, madam clerk. That motion
carries. Any council updates and or
[51:50] carries. Any council updates and or
[51:50] carries. Any council updates and or
announcements?
[51:51] announcements?
[51:51] announcements?
Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor.
[51:52] Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor.
[51:52] Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor.
Go for it.
[51:53] Go for it.
[51:53] Go for it.
I just wanted to let everyone know it's
[51:54] I just wanted to let everyone know it's
[51:54] I just wanted to let everyone know it's
uh the mayor's birthday today.
[51:56] uh the mayor's birthday today.
[51:56] uh the mayor's birthday today.
Thank you.
[51:56] Thank you.
[51:56] Thank you.
Thank you, counselor, for
[51:59] Thank you, counselor, for
[51:59] Thank you, counselor, for
seems like a great opportunity to have
[51:59] seems like a great opportunity to have
[52:00] seems like a great opportunity to have
the UNI students sing, but I guess we're
[52:01] the UNI students sing, but I guess we're
[52:01] the UNI students sing, but I guess we're
not commenting at all.
[52:02] not commenting at all.
[52:02] not commenting at all.
You No.
[52:06] You No.
[52:06] You No.
Okay. Almost. Almost. Pretty convincing,
[52:09] Okay. Almost. Almost. Pretty convincing,
[52:09] Okay. Almost. Almost. Pretty convincing,
though.
[52:09] though.
[52:09] though.
That was pretty convincing. I was for a
[52:10] That was pretty convincing. I was for a
[52:10] That was pretty convincing. I was for a
second. I was like, "Oh, she's gonna do
[52:11] second. I was like, "Oh, she's gonna do
[52:11] second. I was like, "Oh, she's gonna do
it. She's going to do it.
[52:13] it. She's going to do it.
[52:13] it. She's going to do it.
All right. Thank you, counselor. You
[52:14] All right. Thank you, counselor. You
[52:14] All right. Thank you, counselor. You
know, Gil, I'm glad I could share having
[52:16] know, Gil, I'm glad I could share having
[52:16] know, Gil, I'm glad I could share having
a birthday with you on the council
[52:17] a birthday with you on the council
[52:18] a birthday with you on the council
meeting. It's a glorious day.
[52:19] meeting. It's a glorious day.
[52:19] meeting. It's a glorious day.
It is. Yeah.
[52:20] It is. Yeah.
[52:20] It is. Yeah.
Oh, there there is nowhere else.
[52:23] Oh, there there is nowhere else.
[52:23] Oh, there there is nowhere else.
Well, it landed on one of those.
[52:24] Well, it landed on one of those.
[52:24] Well, it landed on one of those.
No, I'm I'm Star Wars. I'm the May the
[52:28] No, I'm I'm Star Wars. I'm the May the
[52:28] No, I'm I'm Star Wars. I'm the May the
Force be with you.
[52:30] Force be with you.
[52:30] Force be with you.
I can say there's nowhere else I would
[52:32] I can say there's nowhere else I would
[52:32] I can say there's nowhere else I would
rather be
[52:32] rather be
[52:32] rather be
Yep.
[52:33] Yep.
[52:33] Yep.
than here with you all
[52:35] than here with you all
[52:35] than here with you all
enjoying.
[52:37] enjoying.
[52:37] enjoying.
I'm a politician. I never lie.
[52:41] I'm a politician. I never lie.
[52:41] I'm a politician. I never lie.
Quote me on that. All right. Anything
[52:44] Quote me on that. All right. Anything
[52:44] Quote me on that. All right. Anything
else? Otherwise, we have any written
[52:46] else? Otherwise, we have any written
[52:46] else? Otherwise, we have any written
referrals, any pressing referrals.
[52:49] referrals, any pressing referrals.
[52:49] referrals, any pressing referrals.
Otherwise, I will look for a motion to
[52:51] Otherwise, I will look for a motion to
[52:51] Otherwise, I will look for a motion to
adjurnn.
[52:51] adjurnn.
[52:51] adjurnn.
So, move.
[52:52] So, move.
[52:52] So, move.
Second.
[52:53] Second.
[52:53] Second.
Motion second. Those in favor?
[52:54] Motion second. Those in favor?
[52:54] Motion second. Those in favor?
I.
[52:55] I.
[52:55] I.
All opposed.
[52:56] All opposed.
[52:56] All opposed.
We are adjourned. Thank you everyone.
[52:58] We are adjourned. Thank you everyone.
[52:58] We are adjourned. Thank you everyone.
Thank you all for coming. Okay, Craig.
[53:00] Thank you all for coming. Okay, Craig.
[53:00] Thank you all for coming. Okay, Craig.
It's great to meet you. Enjoy your trip.
[53:02] It's great to meet you. Enjoy your trip.
[53:02] It's great to meet you. Enjoy your trip.
We'll get together for coffee sometime
[53:03] We'll get together for coffee sometime
[53:03] We'll get together for coffee sometime
here. I'll be back. I'll be back
[53:05] here. I'll be back. I'll be back
[53:05] here. I'll be back. I'll be back
tomorrow sometime. Okay. All right. Be
[53:07] tomorrow sometime. Okay. All right. Be
[53:07] tomorrow sometime. Okay. All right. Be
safe.