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All right. Good evening.
I'm going to call this Senate and City

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Council meeting to order for September
8th, 2026.

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Everyone in attendance, please rise and
join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> Please remain standing. Uh Joshua Julius

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in prayer, sir.
>> Lord, thank you for bringing us here

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tonight. Thank you for the city of
Centerton. Pray that as we do the

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business tonight that you will uh be
with us. Help us look out for the best

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uh for Centerton as well as be with all
of our other commissions, the utility

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and planning and uh the AAP, all of them
that are here for the city. Give us

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wisdom to help guide and lead. And
tonight, please name of Jesus we pray.

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» Thanks for punch.
>> Thanks, Bill.

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Oh, yeah. I guess you found a deer. All
right. You're welcome. Let me go get you

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some more, you know.
>> All right. Roll call, sir.

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» Thom.

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And Cody Miles
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» All right. Well, first on the agenda is
approval of the city council meeting

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minutes from August 11th, 2026.
We did find one smaller on page two. Um

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we had uh Justin listed as Justin Reed.
Uh we have now changed that to Justin

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Calgary or something with discussion.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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» So after that and they're corrected
here.

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» Thank you for acknowledging.
>> So outside that nothing else has

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changed. So would like to make motion to
adopt the minutes for August 11th 2026.

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» We have a motion. We have a second.
>> Second.

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» All in favor?
>> Any opposed? All right. Next is

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acknowledge the receipt of the water and
sewer commission meeting minutes from

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July 21st and August 5th and also the
planning commission meeting minutes from

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August 4th and August 18th, 2026.
>> I make a motion to acknowledge your

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seat.
>> Move.

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» We have a motion by Cliff. We have a
second.

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» Second.
>> Second by Josh. All in favor?

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» Any opposed? All right. Next is our
financial report. Uh so far we are third

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of the way through the quarter which
represents 66.72%.

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Expense-wise we're at 65.43. So we're
still on track. Revenue wise we're just

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a little little over that at 71%.
Uh couple noteworthy things uh that we

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are a little concerned with is is our
building permits are down. Uh you know

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and a lot of I think is just due to our
sewer issue but hopefully that'll get

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resolved soon. They're working with
that. I think TJ will give us an update

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when we when we get there. Uh but
outside of that, I think, you know, city

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sales tax, county sales tax looks uh
overall good shape. And then our street

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fund, um yeah, the street fund is uh
revenue wise 83%, expense is 53%.

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You're getting ready to spend a little
bit of that tonight on a on a truck. So,

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uh outside that that's all I have and
court report is attached. Does anybody

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have uh any uh any questions?
If not, like make a motion to accept the

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financial report for the general street
fund, also the court report.

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» I'd like to say thank you to Shannana
for answering my questions. Appreciate

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you. And I would make a motion to
accept.

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» Okay, we have a motion. We have a
second.

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» Second.
>> All in favor? Any opposed? All right.

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Next is department reports. And I'm
going to bring TJ up. He's going to give

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a little bit of update uh what's
happening over at the utility.

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» All you're all having a good day after
Labor Day. Um we got an updated report

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today [clears throat] from Benton
Washington Regional Water Authority

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requesting that water conservation be
extended through the end of this week,

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not next week, with high temperatures
continuing to be in the upper 90s for

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the remainder of the week and demand.
Right now, demand is pacing to be over

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500 million gallons for the entire water
distribution system for the month of

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September, which would be like over 10%
higher than any September on record

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based on their uh input today. So, I
think the extension of the water

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conservation um is going to be
beneficial, but we'll be with soon and

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shortly. I guess that brings me to one
of the comments. Uh, at the meeting this

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past month, we did have a good
informative discussion with Chief Harper

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as far as how are we going to enforce
the water conservation ordinance that

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was passed last month. Um, I think when
I presented that to y'all, I did say,

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"Hey, this is a first blush, a first
stab just to get the conversation going

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and this should be revised and updated
in the future." and I recommend that

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happening not while we're in the
emergency of a crisis or things like

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that. So hopefully something we can talk
about quarter one next year um to get

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that updated. One of the concerns is
just how do we enforce it, right? That

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requires either code enforcement or um
the police department to enforce that um

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and what does that look like? So, um I
think the utility department has some

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ideas and solutions that can take that
burden off of code enforcement or the

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police um and leave it in the authority
of the utility um without potentially

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the stipulation of fines and things, but
actually just utilizing um meters u as

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our ability to if people aren't
compliant. So, just as a general update,

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but there's no proposal to revise that
right now. As far as if there's been

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enforcement, um to my knowledge, there
hasn't. Um but at the same time, we also

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have seen majority of the community um
you know, following along saying, "Hey,

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we want to take care of our system as a
community and are obliging with the

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requested conservation authority
request." Are they going to be sending

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that request out to the general public
or are they putting it on the cities

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» on Facebook so far?
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» then the news kind of reported on this
afternoon it looks like.

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» Yeah.
>> You know when you look at it went from

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it says that last September our
customers used 486 MG

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alltime September usage record is 494.
We're at 567 again. It

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» that's the projected correct. Yep.
>> But like where is that in relation to

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» August or July? population uses like how
you know I understand it's higher

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» like as far as
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» if the long range is it long-term
planning issue like what where are we at

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on that like you know because we have
more population here

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» sure more flow
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Washington regelities post the past few
months they've explained their

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» in very smart people detail yes
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» long post
>> not not exactly the best public

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communication means and methods But if
you drive around the county, you see the

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big old blue pipe that's uh steel.
That's the new transmission line that

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Benton Washington Regional is
installing. So that's going to be able

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to feed um the west side of the county
to the Decatur tank farm. And the reason

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that the conservation request is being
put out is because of the pumping

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capacity at the plant in Aoka, which is
just north of Beaver Lake. um the

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pumping capacity is tied directly to the
distribution uh main coming out of uh

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the plant over there, right? So,
increased piping capacity is going to

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help with the pumping capacity as well.
They are doing upgrades at their plant.

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In addition, um as far as Center
Utilities as well, right, we accept our

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water from them. We have a couple points
in town where we meter that at. uh

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update on the water uh storage tank. Um
our team is working to put that online.

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Um we're going to put that online with
only [clears throat] one pump in

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operation at the water storage tank. So
um that's because we believe you know

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the second pump is a redundant pump if
that first pump goes out. So we

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understand that we'll be operating at a
risk. Um, but with a brand new pond,

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we should be relatively protected and
safe. We've been operating without that

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elevated storage tank right now. So, I
mean, even if it were to go down, um,

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we'd still be able to supply water at
the immediate need, right? But we just

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want to get online, get it operational,
get it functioning. Um the other pump is

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um in maintenance um and we're in
negotiations with the contractor as far

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as that process. So just a general
update there. Sewer projects, all three

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projects are underway. Um things are
going, things are moving, progress is

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being made, contractors are showing up
to the monthly meetings as requested.

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That's going to help with transparency
and communication directly between the

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commission and the contractors. So, um,
the other update, uh, we're hoping to

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have a joint work session with y'all,
the utility commission and the city

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council. We're trying to target
September 21st. It looks like the the

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best possible date.
>> Let me throw a couple dates out there

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before we make sure most of us can be
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» Um, I think the other date that could
work is potentially October five. So,

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» I don't think that will work. I think
there's another event.

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» Oh, yeah. October 5 there was a
conflict. Um

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» any way to do it on like other than
Monday?

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» Um potentially we can work with
you know that today's work well with

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him.
>> Aaron Benzing uh uh Hawkins who's

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performing that report study. I guess
the other day that we could look at uh

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be a Wednesday. So
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uh 6:30 in the evening likely. So
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» um
but those two weeks

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would be
so trying to get it in September just so

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Aaron can honor his request. We he
couldn't make it uh to today's meeting

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just uh they're they've got like one
final push this week to get it buttoned

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up and everything. So, uh, in my
opinion, they've done a great job.

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They've been very open and
communicative, um, with us. Um, the last

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update I had with him verbally doesn't
really change much from what he had

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presented to us a few months back. So,
when he meets, I don't think that we

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should be hit with many surprises other
than there's still going to be some

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studies that need to be done and some
additional work, but we have we have

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outlined path for the immediate future
is what I believe we'll be hearing. Um,

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and so with that, we're also continuing
to negotiate with Naka and have those

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discussions,
but I can get an email in Bill with a

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couple potential dates and he can
circulate with you all to uh get that

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joint work session locked in. So,
>> question for you, TJ. Um, residents that

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are in close proximity to the Allen Road
lift station are concerned about the

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odors coming from that. um in their mind
it's going to be open for 18 months. Is

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that the case? Does that have to be open
for 18 months or can that work be

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completed and have it closed back?
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construction at that site for the
duration of the project. There's also a

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second phase of that Allen Road lift
station improvement project that was not

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bid out. um that's going to be
specifically like pump improvements,

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electrical improvements, things of this
nature uh at that site that those will

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be bid out in the future. Those pro
those items were not bid out with this

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initial project because they did not
directly affect the capacity um

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improvements we needed to make to the
collection system. So we broke that off

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separate to the collection improvements.
So the recent work that was done at

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Allen station was the cing of the
18-inch thick wall to accept the new

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influent pipe. Um and that is a slow
process. Um and does take time. So there

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will be I mean also Allen Road lift
station is one of our larger sites for

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uh storage materials things of this
nature. So that there [clears throat]

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will be construction activity that site.
>> Anything that can be done to mitigate

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some of the odors or are there any? I
think our team is working as best we can

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to do that. Um, yeah, there's some
deodorizers that we can include into the

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the wet well lift station, but it's also
being just bypass pumped, right? And

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it's just exposed and open. Do
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» All right. Thank you.
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» All right. And you got the rest of the
department report. So, anybody got any

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more questions?

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All right. So, next we'll move on to
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» Read rules first. You can stay there.
>> All right. So, before we begin tonight's

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meeting or tonight's public comment, I'd
like to review the rules for public

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comment. Public comment is an
opportunity for residents to address the

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city council on matters related to city
business. Speakers are asked to come to

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the podium, state their name and address
for the record. Comments will be limited

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to three minutes per speaker, which I
have a clock up here on the wall, uh,

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unless otherwise approved by the
council. Please direct all comments to

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the council as a whole and maintain
respectful and professional conduct at

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all times. Personal attacks, disruptive
behavior, profanity, or abusive language

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will not be permitted. Comments should
remain relevant to city business or

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agenda items being discussed. All right,
go ahead. Sorry about that. I I will

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open up public comment.
>> My name is Andrew Silva. I live at 830

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Harvest Street where I shot things out
for the council to review.

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» Thank

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past two weeks, I spent my time looking
through city budget between 2022 and

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2026.
Uh found some interesting things within

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our legal services that I'd like to just
bring up for discussion if you care to

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have it. I understand that generally
speaking, uh, contracts for the city

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attorney are reviewed in December.
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I did submit what you're going to have
in front of you. The first page is

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simply an analysis of all invoices sent
by Mr. Rabble to the city.

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Comprehensive breakdown and categories
he puts in his invoices. There is a

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foyer on page two regarding the request
for all said invoices

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and the SOP by which we obtain said
invoices

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and remit for payment. Um so a couple
things to call out.

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I haven't seen his contract u so I'm not
going to speak to what's there because I

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effectively don't know what's there. Uh
but some key call outs here. For the

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last
sevenish full months, we've created

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$3,000 to read, write, or review um or
draft emails. Um 15,000 documentary

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reviews, 14,000 forces, prosecution
fees, and goes to court every month. Um

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series of meetings which includes city
council and planning commission and

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teleconferences at 7,000. Uh, it
includes 812 emails, 183 separate

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documents, 148 teleconference calls, and
so on and so forth. Um,

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I just find that a lot of money to pay
an individual who's an elected official

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who on average works less than 50 hours
a month and builds the city on average

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of $11,700.

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Sometimes less, sometimes more. Uh, I
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at an elected official,
the practice is that he sends his

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invoices to the mayor who's another
elected official who then reviews and

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sends those off to be paid. Um, you
don't do that in the private sector. You

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don't have employee Bob sending his
attendance sheets to CEO for payment,

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right? There's HR. There's there's other
processes and people involved in that.

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Um, so I think at a minimum it would be
very helpful if we had an SOP on how we

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want to handle payments with elected
officials just to avoid any look at

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impropriy.
Um, page three are invoices from June

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concerns I have here and just wanted to
bring it to light was uh about 24

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minutes into the June meeting. Um,
Justin had asked, sorry, Joshua had

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asked a question about an email I had
sent. Uh, city attorney admitted he

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didn't review his email until that day.
>> Excuse me, until that specific meeting.

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And yet there's a separate billing
charge and we were already paying him

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$900 to serve in his official capacity
during the meeting. Um, so I know I

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don't have much time, a lot of time. Um
the point is I think there's a better

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way matter of fact I know there's a
better way how to manage finance in

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billing um especially with elected
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I think an ordinance uh is appropriate
at some point in time. I know it's not

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on the agenda for today. I take liberty
to draft one up for you all to look at

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in your own time and review. I think
would be very helpful at just ensuring

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uh basically no appearance of empathy in
any capacity for Yes.

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» Your time's up.
>> I'm finished. I mean, wrap it up.

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» Just Yeah, I think the word
>> go ahead. Wrap it up.

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» Um that's all I have. I mean, if you
guys have any any feedback, I I

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certainly welcome it or just just
encourage you to have general

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discussion. This doesn't include all the
legal services. There's about $56,000

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that we pay uh for membership fees to
the municipal league. So that also that

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you know at this rate he's going to make
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Anyone else?
>> Can I ask one quick?

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» Yeah, go ahead. Andrew, um, just to
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um, your request is that there be an SOP
ordinance describing how we receive the

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bill and pay those out.
>> Correct? I thought

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I ask one question real quick. I'm
sorry, Andrew. On the on the last tab or

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column on the invoice, do you know what
that header is?

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Like I see the bill hours, the amount.
What's that last? So he has bill of he

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has his rate and then that's the total.
>> Okay.

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» And the other thing u uh that I think
would also be helpful for billing

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practices. I know it's not required by
the state supreme court or by state

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legislation. Um but obviously the city
attorney def represents the city in

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legal matters. So I think it would be
helpful to to add in a requirement that

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actual case numbers be tied to the
invoice. That way he can actually track

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total dollars spent on each individual
lawsuit that the the attorney has to

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represent city on.
>> Thank you.

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» Wait, y'all got any more questions for
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» Chris Mooney 1325 North Main Street. Uh
a couple of uh shorter items I sent to

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all of y'all uh about a month and a half
ago with the five

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relationship between the city and the
commission and it ran from nothing to

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dissolve the
city mayor. Um, at this point in our

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life cycle with all the
things going on related to the utility

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conventions, I think the latter would be
inconvenient for everybody and probably

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an issue in the near term. What I would
suggest though, and the mayor has

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brought this up, as have other people,
Mindy McClendon and others at the

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commission, why don't you pass a
resolution simply asking them to webcast

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their meetings,
>> their meetings?

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» We've asked that before, actually.
>> Been asking that asked that several

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times.
>> I'd love [clears throat] to at least

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have a recording of it.
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» This room, they could fit it up in their
own room. Anyway, um that would be

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» what did you say right there? they could
actually meet in this room

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up for that which anyway that's would be
>> as that several times and actually they

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I think there was a little bit of a push
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» they said no
>> there was a lot of push back

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» I don't understand that at all
>> I ask you there has been historically a

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fair amount of push back on
that type of

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» it would be they push back on the video
but I did request the recording of a

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meeting I was not able to attend And I
was provided that within an hour they

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record them. The audio recording was
>> they have to record them.

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» Why don't they put
>> all public?

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» But you'd like to have a repository if
you want to go out and listen without

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request. You'd like to have that.
>> Right.

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» There needs to be more public disclosure
of the discussion to go on within the

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utility commission. There's clearly a
lot of moving parts in wastewater and

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water currently and so I think that
would be a good start

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moving forward
>> as as will this meeting that TJ just

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brought up. Um and then the other item I
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um after plan adoption.
I hope you do it. The Pierce family

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here,
they would be very happy. They've been

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very cooperative with the um planning
staff on thinking about what can be done

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and thank you for doing that. And

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» the city needs to move forward otherwise
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Thanks, Chris.
>> Thank you.

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» You're crying.
>> I was kind of yawning.

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» Don't cry. [laughter]
Anyone else?

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» Thomas?

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Thomas C. Locks, 1421 Florentine Road.
Mr. Mayor, ladies and gentlemen of the

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Center City Council,
on Sunday, 20 September, 2026,

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1:00 p.m. to 3 p.m. I, Thomas Elox, will
be hosting a candidates forum at the old

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Center City Town Hall, 290 North Main
Street team. Bring your questions. Bring

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your children. Who's invited? All
candidates running for office are

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encouraged to attend. All eligible
voters acting in good faith are asked to

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attend with their children.
What will be the highlight? At 3:10, the

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floor will be open to candidates running
for city council. Next will come the

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mayor candidates and after that all
other candidates based on time and

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uh number of participants.
>> What was the date again, Thomas?

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» Thank you. It's Sunday.

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» Yes.
>> September 20th.

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» September 20th, 1 p.m. to 3 p.m.
>> Thanks.

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» Okay, so that's the highlights. Why is
it on Sunday? I know you're asking that

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question. Opportunity, and I wrote this
down. Familyfriendly venue.

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Why is it familyfriendly?
Free beverages, free snacks, free food.

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Okay, now I'm going to have the part
that hurts. The feedback to the

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candidates that were there last time. I
was asked to say this. There are two

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things that was brought up. Number one,
I was asked to ask you not to talk about

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yourself so much. So, you just refer it
to your website or whatever if they want

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your background, but they thought you
were kind of uh slow rolling things so

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you didn't have to answer questions. And
then uh everybody was like, "This does

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not work." or this is the problem. But
nobody came forth with plans and plans

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to implement those plans. So my
suggestion would be this is the first

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thing I'm going to do on the day I'm
elected. This is the second thing I'm

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going to do, third thing, etc., etc. And
let people know how you're going to make

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that happen. Okay, here's the
conclusion.

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All the time, all I hear about is
rights. Everybody has rights, right? And

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I'll fight for your rights. I have no
problem fighting for your rights. But

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along with rights comes
responsibilities.

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Every eligible citizen has a civic duty
to vote.

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So let's stop with the excuses and get
out and vote.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you, Thomas.

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» Hey, did I see you out with a vest
[sighs and gasps] last week picking up

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trash on the side of the road?
>> No.

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[laughter]
>> Or some like or rid's bicycle to

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Bentonville. I see him every morning.
>> Yeah. Anyone else? Public comment.

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» I'd like to say
no. Yeah, you come on back up. We need

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your name and address.
>> My name is Taylor Seismore. I am with

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the Pierce family. Uh, and on the Pierce
Farm.

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» You got an address.
>> What's your address?

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» Your address is 40 Mealbrook Circle in
Bentonville. Okay.

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» I'm here representing the Beers Farm.
>> Okay. Go ahead, sir. Sorry,

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» my comments are towards the new
downtown. Is that going to have another

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public comment or is now the time to
speak?

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» Now's the time.
>> Okay. So,

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» already had their hearing and
everything. So, this is the time.

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» Same thing is what Mr. Mooney had
already mentioned is we have been in

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participation with all of this. I
personally was on the uh Centerton

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downtown steering committee as as a
landowner rep. So, I just want everybody

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to know that the three largest land
owners that were within this boundary of

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the downtown plan, they were present at
all of the steering committee meetings

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and so they gave their input. They gave
their feedback and they had full

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participation throughout that. I just
want the city council to understand that

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before they go into their vote.
um some other things that

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uh
this is going to require some sort of

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ordinances to be established. But
another thing I want everybody to

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understand on this type of large
development is there's communities and

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the plan zoning districts and this can
have its specific rules and regulations

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and types of zoning without having to do
the entire complex zoning amendments to

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the like the center plan to max this.
So, there's ways to do these large

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amazing projects. So, uh I just want
everybody to know that the Pierce

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family's been participating. Uh we
support this new downtown plan and we

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hope to see it go through.
>> Thank you, sir.

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» Thank you.
>> Anyone else? Oh, yeah. Cindy, I thought

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somebody else was coming up.
>> I know who you are, but say for him. I

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got you. got me. Um, got my address.
>> I got you.

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» I just wanted to say, um, in part of
what Chris had to say, I have been

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attending
meetings for about the last three and a

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half years off and on things I've heard
is incredulous.

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Last month's meeting,
in my opinion, was one of the worst.

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Wendy brought up some of the things to
me that I had just completely oversening

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and it was just some of the words or the
comments that were made by the

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commissioners
was just shocking and um not in the

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realm of a servant's heart. Who are they
serving if they're not serving the

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residents of Sandon? And on Chris's
options what to do with the water

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commission, I'm going to disagree with
the do nothing. I think something needs

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to be done. We need to you you all need
to evaluate what their actual mission

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is, what their goals are, and how are
they accomplishing them. Are they

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accomplishing them? Um I was just
shocked. I think those meetings, they

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don't they should not have an option.
They should be recorded.

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They're serving the residents of Center.
We have the right to know apart from

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attending every one of them during those
hours uh what is going on in those

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meetings.
>> You know stick it to them to the

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residents of center is not an
appropriate comment for a commissioner

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that is serving the residents of center
and other things were said last month.

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This room is already set up for
recording. If they don't want to go

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through the expense of setting up this
room for it, then they need to come

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here. But they need to be recorded so
that the residents of Centerton can see

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and hear what is being said and done. 41
to 45% water loss is not okay. People

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need to be held accountable for that.
The national average is 20 to 25%.

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We far exceed that. That means 45 cents
of every dollar that we pay in for water

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is going into the ground because we're
paying for it.

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So anyhow, please don't not do anything.
The water commission needs to be

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examined.
>> That's just one comment on that. I just

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wanted to say to TJ
I just respect you and your

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professionalism, the consistency and
your professionalism in each of those

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meetings. I attend every meeting. So, I
just appreciate the work that you do and

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the input that you give. That's a high
caliber that needs to be consistent with

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everyone on
>> I just don't want you to take that

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personally.

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It's just something
you have.

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» Last call. Anyone else?
>> You already spoke.

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» I'm back.
>> Don't get times. [laughter]

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» Since Cindy brought up the water loss
and I wasn't going to talk about it

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tonight, but let's get the actual real
numbers according to their audit. And

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those are the real numbers.
Um, I've been told they're not the real

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numbers in commission meeting, but they
are the real financial.

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In 2023, the loss rate was 41.4%.
In 2024, the loss rate was 42.4%

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and in 2025, the loss rate was up to
46.6%.

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That was a little that was almost uh
that was $2,48,000

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worth losses
[snorts] water paid for that went to the

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ground. Now, they are making an effort.
And when I brought this up the last

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time, I was asked if uh if I was
accusing them of being incompetent.

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I said, "No, I'm trying to encourage you
to spend the money to fix the problem.

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Hopefully, we'll get better numbers for
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but wrong direction."
>> Well, I have some questions for TJ if

415
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:35,679
that's all right.
>> Come on, back up, TJ.

416
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:40,880
» Welcome to the hot seat.
Uh when I was on commission, we set up

417
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,240
the crews that were going to go around
and fix the leaks

418
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,799
update on those crews.
>> Yeah. So we need to still get the

419
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:55,519
monthly update with the data that you
had requested

420
00:33:50,640 --> 00:34:01,679
of um service projects per month. Um
it's steady. Um

421
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:08,800
I will say that beginning of the year
the no water loss increase was high and

422
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:13,599
so the center utility staff team our
crews that are our employees kind of

423
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,639
pivoted and they went and spent I
believe don't quote me on the months I

424
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,960
don't have the data right in front of me
but I believe

425
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:28,159
spent a lot of time listening to all
hydrants and to as many meter cans as

426
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:34,560
they possibly could. Um the the staff of
the utility is very

427
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:39,359
understands the dire need to improve
water loss.

428
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:44,639
Again, yes, the national averages for
water loss are much lower. The average

429
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:48,320
for water loss in Northwest Arkansas is
very much in line with what Centerton

430
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:52,480
is. I'm not saying that means we should
do nothing and be adequate with being

431
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:56,720
just like everybody else. However, this
is not just a problem. City of Centerton

432
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,800
is fighting. City of Fyville is fighting
this problem. City of Bentonville, city

433
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:06,079
of Springdale, they're all fighting this
same problem. Has to do with type of

434
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:13,599
material used um installation
construction methods back in the 2000s,

435
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:17,440
2010s, um things of this nature. We do
uh you know we've had conversations with

436
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,800
Bentville and they say don't do this
because

437
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:25,119
don't don't spend your money talking to
this type of contractor because they're

438
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,000
not going to yield results. Okay, we
heed that advice. So it's like okay,

439
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,839
we're not going to go chase that rabbit
hole. Bet Bill's already spent that

440
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,920
money and said we we didn't find success
in that. Right. That's just one example,

441
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:41,680
right, that I I've been in that
conversation with Preston New. Um so

442
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:46,320
we're using our resources. resources
include, you know, professionals outside

443
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:52,079
of the utilities office, but also
colleagues at other utility departments.

444
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:56,960
Um, so that I think that's just the
general update. We still have a contract

445
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,240
with two contractors to perform
serviceability

446
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:04,720
improvements. I believe they're in
Sienna right now is my understanding.

447
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:10,560
» Okay. So maybe some things have changed.
We had we were hiring two sets of teams

448
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:14,240
or that was the goal within within the
utility to handle that outsourcing that

449
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,119
now
>> we have both.

450
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,480
» We have both. So so we do have two teams
within the city on the utility they're

451
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:27,200
doing our way down to one because I know
we moved back to one due to due to uh

452
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:31,760
red some people left I think. I I don't
know the exact stats but we have

453
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:37,440
internal team doing service repair and
placement and we have outside cons uh

454
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,680
contractors also doing the same task
there budget talks are going to be

455
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:49,200
coming up here in the next few months.
Staff has requested some expenses that

456
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:53,599
will help with some tools to expedite um
water service replacement stuff. So

457
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:57,040
» you could definitely see driving down
Sienna.

458
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:02,320
» That's that was what I was gonna ask. I
drove down in Sienna, that neighborhood,

459
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:06,960
» and some of those yards were in pretty
bad shape after looks like after the

460
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:11,680
fact.
>> Are we anything about making those

461
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:17,040
better shape or are we going to leave
them that way?

462
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:22,400
» Um, so I'll speak to my residence was
done a year and a half ago. Mhm.

463
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:29,760
» Um, my sidewalk was exposed, I think,
for like eight weeks, um, just with

464
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:36,320
gravel. Um, and I believe it was, uh,
Center Utilities that did my residence.

465
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:40,400
Um, that's due to timing of concrete
trucks and things like that. Like, we're

466
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,920
not going to go get a concrete truck for
every sidewalk fix, right?

467
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,720
» Some of the yards looked really bad. It
wasn't even a

468
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:50,560
» Right. And so Paul, so I guess to to
that point, right, the the area around

469
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:56,079
that sidewalk that was disturbed and the
meters um that did not get rehabilitated

470
00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:01,359
until the sidewalks were completed and
so and yeah, there was some maintenance

471
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:07,200
that I had to do to my space there,
right? Um our our crews I think put it

472
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:12,800
back as best they can, but I can pass on
the message that to

473
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:16,160
» continue to provide care. appreciate the
work that the utility puts in. Those did

474
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,441
look pretty bad though when I drove down
through there.

475
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,441
» Understood. Understood. [clears throat]

476
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:28,079
» Suggestions.
>> Oh, I will say just for public record

477
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:34,240
that the way they're monitoring the
customer side of the meters is very

478
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:39,280
nice. I got a text message that I had
increased usage over a two-month period

479
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:43,520
and I have almost probably a little over
600 feet of water line from the meter to

480
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:47,440
my house. So, I would have never known
that. But a quick test text message

481
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,839
said, "Hey, you need to check
something." And come to find out, I did

482
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:57,599
have a leak. I was losing about
threequarters of a gallon a minute into

483
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:02,079
my field. So, I appreciate the
notification. You know, it was

484
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:07,680
incremental change. it went from, you
know, 2,000 to 3,000 to 8,000. Um, but

485
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:13,119
that was good to get that notification
and to be able to to find that rectify

486
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:16,800
that problem in 3 days. Um, but I would
have never known. I would just keep

487
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:20,240
paying my water bill thinking, I guess
I'm using more water, you know, because

488
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:28,200
I have a certain things like that. But
to to have them monitoring that ination

489
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:28,200
was appreciated.

490
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,560
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> Before I close public comment on Chris,

491
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,960
you gave us some pictures. Did you want
to talk about these?

492
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,000
» Well, I'm sitting here. I'm looking at
it, but I figured you wanted to say

493
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:51,200
something.
>> The mayor and I both walk every day. But

494
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:57,119
just for those who don't, there's your
this will be

495
00:39:53,440 --> 00:40:06,079
dollars at work, please. the remediation
of the existing sewage lines and

496
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:10,480
» well it's 16.5 million dollars we part
this project by the way just as an aside

497
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:14,720
again so that's what it is I mean
there's pipes all over the place but

498
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,960
that was the largest fielding of pipes
and the biggest hole it's an impressive

499
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:26,560
hole if you haven't gone by take a look
at it um the utility uh deck service is

500
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:33,920
going to double between this year and
next year to accommodate for this new

501
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:39,119
effort. Um, so their budget is going to
get a lot tighter than it has been. They

502
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:43,839
can afford that based I have I can't
find my 25 audit copy, but based on what

503
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:48,880
I saw in 23 and 24, they should be able
to afford that. So no rate increases as

504
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:55,760
a result to be but it is going to
constrain them on potentially other

505
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,760
capital when you go from 2 million to 4
million

506
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,480
interest in debt retirement annual and
that's in 2027.

507
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:10,920
» Anyone else public comment before I call
it?

508
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:21,160
Let me get the clock.
>> Hang on just a minute. Mike turn.

509
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,440
» Sorry.
>> How you doing?

510
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,920
» How you doing?
>> So I just got some comments that I would

511
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,960
like to
>> Mike. Tell me real quick. I'm sorry.

512
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,640
Your address again.
>> What's that?

513
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:34,359
» Address again.
>> 1510 Edinburg.

514
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:41,520
» So I spent 49 years in Southern
California. Moved there right out of

515
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:48,800
high school. carpenter for 40 years,
Union Carpenter. The last eight years I

516
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:54,880
was armed security. So I saw the town
that I moved into in Southern California

517
00:41:50,960 --> 00:42:01,520
was 28,000 people in 1971. It's now
168,000 people. The town that my father

518
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:07,920
lives in, which right next to it, is
right now it's 25,000 people.

519
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:12,400
So I watched all
the pains, the growing pains go. Great

520
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,400
administration, horrible
administrations. And some of the things

521
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,160
that I saw,
I couldn't believe. One of the things

522
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:23,520
that Norco, that's a city that that is
25,000 people. One of the things they

523
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:27,520
did, they were going to have a growth
spur just like Centerton. So what they

524
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:33,920
did, they put a five-year building
moratorum on only individual house and

525
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:39,440
limited commercial. They got all their
infrastructure up which center's very

526
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:43,520
lacking at and then after five years
they opened it up and they had very few

527
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:46,960
growing pains. Some of the things I've
seen around here is first of all the

528
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:50,880
roads. I don't know how you're going to
improve the buildings and that's the

529
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:55,599
main thing around here. This place is
gridlocked already and apparently

530
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:01,520
either you don't live here or you don't
care about traffic. I've been blocked up

531
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:08,880
from Bliss all the way to the light at
Maine and it happens every day. Another

532
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:14,240
thing is we have I live off of SBA and
Keller. All these subdivisions going

533
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:18,640
along back there and to get out of
Keller to 102 is an absolute insanity.

534
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:24,480
It needs to have light there. And I know
that's a state

535
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:29,599
and it's a state facil state. So I've
never seen in 40 years if somebody

536
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:36,319
applied for a variance if it had to do
with the safety of citizens that city,

537
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:39,359
state or county united
that this thing gets rolling, you're

538
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:43,200
going to have to do something there
because it's just going to be insane.

539
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:48,720
Another thing I'm wondering about is
Norco is like I said 25,000 people. They

540
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:54,480
have their own high school. My cousin
graduated from it in 72 junior high

541
00:43:51,839 --> 00:44:00,160
elementary schools. My daughter went to
Norco Elementary. She's 42 years old. So

542
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,960
all we have here is Bentonville. So if
you're going to have this many people

543
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,880
come in, what are you going to do? Are
you going to build your own schools

544
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:10,640
here? Because these schools here are
already at max almost maxed out.

545
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,839
Bentonville Grims. I mean, my daughter
is a nurse. She was at Grimsley for six

546
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:20,800
months. They opened the door and they
were capacity at them. So are you going

547
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:27,839
to build your own schools here? because
the educational system

548
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:32,400
in Arkansas is at 47th in the country.
And so if you're just going to keep

549
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:35,920
piling people into the the high schools,
the kids are going to suffer. That's one

550
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:40,400
of my main concerns. And I'm out of
time. Thank you for your time.

551
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:44,640
» Thank you, sir.
All right. Last call.

552
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:48,680
I'm go ahead and close public comment.
Let me get the other screen here.

553
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,160
All right. Well, next we're going to go
into ordinances and resolutions. But

554
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:58,400
before we start,
I would like to make a motion to read

555
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,240
all ordinances and resolutions by Ty
Holly.

556
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,480
A
>> motion.

557
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,720
» We have a motion. We have a second.
>> Second.

558
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,160
» Second. Roll call. Sir
Thompson.

559
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,599
» Yes.
>> Dustin Calgary.

560
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,319
» Wendy Henson.
>> Did you say yes? Wendy.

561
00:45:15,661 --> 00:45:18,800
[clears throat]
>> Reed.

562
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:23,760
» Yes. Joshua Hagen. Yes. And Cody Miles.
>> Yes.

563
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:28,800
Five to one.
>> All right. All right. So, our first

564
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:34,560
ordinance is ordinance 2026-22.
Uh we've seen this several times. Uh I'm

565
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:39,359
bringing back uh some changes that were
requested have been made. I highlighted

566
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:44,319
the areas we changed, but also Brian
asked me to put this one in here about

567
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,599
complimentary complimentary use shall
not be available for candidate

568
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:51,119
campaigning events, political
fundraising activities.

569
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:57,280
Other words, they won't give it away for
free. Uh we charge that. Then also uh he

570
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:03,920
said the mayor may deny or revoke the
approval. Brian has to change the city

571
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:08,560
mayor. And then Justin brought up Justin
or Cliff brought up about subletting the

572
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:12,240
room out. That's what this this uh code
is here. Instead of putting on the form,

573
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:20,760
I just went ahead and added it to the
ordinance. Uh outside that everything

574
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,760
else is the same. So any questions?

575
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:31,680
» All right. Uh, council member
>> ordinance number 2026-22,

576
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:35,280
an ordinance amending chapter 12.20
of the senator municipal code regarding

577
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,440
the municipal facility fee schedule and
authorizing limited fee waiverss for

578
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,599
community use of the community room and
for other purposes.

579
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:46,400
» So like make a motion to suspend the
rule requiring regress on three separate

580
00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:50,000
occasions.
>> I make a motion.

581
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,280
» We have a motion. We have a second.
>> Second.

582
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,720
» Second by Cliff. Roll call, sir. Cliff
Thompson,

583
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,560
» yes.
>> Justin Caler,

584
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:58,560
» yes.
>> Henson,

585
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,079
» recusing.
>> Josie Reed,

586
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,599
» yes.
>> Joshua Hagen,

587
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,599
» yes.
>> And Cody Miles,

588
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:09,280
» yes.
>> All right. Next is ordinance 2026-29.

589
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:13,599
This is the annexation ordinance.
>> Oh, sorry. Back. Keep me straight.

590
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:16,920
Somebody make a motion to adopt
ordinance 2026-22.

591
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:25,280
» We have a motion. We have a second.
>> Second. Second by Cody. Roll call, sir.

592
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,440
» Cliff Thompson.
>> Yes.

593
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,319
» Justin Calgary.
>> Josie Reed.

594
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:33,119
» Yes.
>> Cody M.

595
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:38,880
» All right.
>> Now we'll go to ordinance 2026-29.

596
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:42,720
This is the annexation ordinance I
brought back last month.

597
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:48,560
» Uh here's a map of the area. This is
down off of Highway 102

598
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:51,520
and south North Calfell Cemetery Road.
The ones that are numbered are the ones

599
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:59,359
that are
>> and and this is uh this was uh read at

600
00:47:55,839 --> 00:48:04,960
the last meeting and this uh this is the
second reading of that same ordinance.

601
00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:07,599
So any questions on this and at the end
after he reads it the second time we

602
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,359
don't have to take a vote on it. We
don't take a vote till the third

603
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:14,960
reading.
>> Any questions? Sorry if I moved on to

604
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:20,800
this side. I'm sorry.
>> City of Sarin Ordinance number 2026-29.

605
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:25,040
An ordinance accepting the annexation of
certain territory belonging to Brown at

606
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:29,359
all to the city of Centerton and
assigning such to warrants and zoning

607
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:34,000
designation. And that fulfills the
requirement for second reading. Right B?

608
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,960
» Next month we'll bring it back for
approval. All right. So next is

609
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:44,240
ordinance 2026-31.
Uh this is accepting uh warranty bonds

610
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:49,920
and easements from Skylight Mini Storage
which is located on Greenhouse Road. All

611
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:53,640
the bonds and easements are attached.
>> Any questions on this?

612
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,680
Council
>> City of Sergeant ordinance number

613
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:03,119
2026-31
an ordinance accepting warranty bonds

614
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:09,359
for public infrastructure improvements
in drainage and utility easements for

615
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:14,480
development 22-12 skylight mini storage
on land located in the east half of the

616
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:20,720
southwest quarter of northwest one
quarter of section 2 township 19 north

617
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:26,760
range 31 west city of center Benton
County Arkansas also known as parcels

618
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,760
06- 00001-125

619
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,079
and 06-00001-126

620
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:38,640
for the construction, operation, and
maintenance of a public drainage in

621
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:43,680
water and sewer systems.
Okay. So, make motion to suspend the

622
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,440
rule requiring Regis on three separate
occasions.

623
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,400
» So, moved.
>> We have a motion. We have a second.

624
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,040
» Second.
>> Second by Josh. Roll call, sir.

625
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,280
Ruth Thompson,
>> yes.

626
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,599
» Justin Calgary, no.
>> Wendy Henson,

627
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,200
» Josie Reed,
>> yes.

628
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,720
» Joshua Hagen,
>> yes.

629
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,880
» And Cody Miles,
>> yes.

630
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:07,960
» Okay.
>> And we make a motion to adopt ordinance

631
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,960
2026-31.

632
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:15,040
» So, we have a motion. We have second.
>> Second.

633
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,640
» Second. Roll call, sir.
>> Thompson.

634
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,960
» Yes.
>> Caler.

635
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,760
» Yes.
>> Wendy Hansen.

636
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,960
» Joy Reed. Yes.
>> Joshua Hagen.

637
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,119
» Yes.
>> And Cody Miles.

638
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,079
» Yes.
>> Next is ordinance 2026-32.

639
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:36,720
This is accepting uh [clears throat]
land from the Oak Partner, Oaklanding

640
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:40,559
Partners LLC. Uh this is the land that
located and actually I wanted to mention

641
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,480
that this is uh something that Anthony
was working on uh you know for several

642
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:47,920
months working with these folks
>> and I just wanted to acknowledge that uh

643
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:51,680
you know in this meeting. This was
something he was really adamant about

644
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,359
working with. And uh there's the land. I
had Josh kind of make me just a little

645
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:58,559
quick map of it. So there it is. It's
right across from the Versail

646
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:05,520
subdivision and it backs all the way up
to Christian Lane down here. And this is

647
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:08,520
a little bit over 80 acres somehow.
>> Yes.

648
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,400
» Anybody have any questions?

649
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:19,359
» Picture is a little bit off but it's
close. Yeah, he just maybe I just has to

650
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,839
throw something together for me. And we
are going to have to annex a little

651
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:26,480
piece of this in which I'll I'll bring
back. Uh I'll start that process after

652
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:31,040
this after we we have to record this
need, but you have to approve it first.

653
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,680
» And this is the mountain bike. They're
putting the mountain bike trails in.

654
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,599
» I'm not really sure what they're putting
in. Josh, you you out there somewhere? I

655
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:43,359
I didn't know we had any plans for
anything right at the moment, but I'll

656
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:48,000
let Josh talk about it.
Uh tatively is right now we don't have

657
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,880
anything planned. Uh we looking at set
up for a grant so we can get some

658
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:57,440
engineering designs on it. Basically all
green space is what it's going to be

659
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:04,000
outdoor park outdoor seating trails art
soft basically all outdoor stuff.

660
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:09,720
We need to try to get some grants so we
can

661
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:09,720
» with the foundation.

662
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,599
» Any more questions? So, Brian, this is
the contract you were working through

663
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,720
last month, correct?
>> L.

664
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,200
» Yeah, he was working with the last
couple months. Yes.

665
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:24,400
» Oh, this is the uh Yeah, someone was
saying it was Walmart, but it's Oakland.

666
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:28,480
» Oakland. Yes.
>> Yes. Okay.

667
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:32,640
» You you are the deed there.
>> You know, my concerns and I mean, we've

668
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,119
got some appealable rights in here, but
uh uh

669
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,760
» number nine. Is that what you're
thinking? 9 through 11's going to

670
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:42,720
» uh yeah, I think we add a little bit of
nine, but I mean it's it's always one of

671
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:46,319
those I mean they're they're granting it
to us but

672
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:52,800
» in perpetuity
we can only use it how they say we can

673
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,000
use it and that's always of concern to
me.

674
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:59,760
» Yeah. So, you know, it's h one haven't
done the other, but there is at least a

675
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:04,079
an appeal process. But I mean, we don't
know who will be uh owning this and

676
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:09,280
whatnot with regards to 100 years from
now. Uh what we can do, but we are

677
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:14,240
locked in if we agree to this to to
follow

678
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,839
their desires. Paul's point,
>> we had plenty of time to kind of like

679
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:21,680
walk through that with them though, like
>> they're not going to budge. This is it.

680
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,280
I mean, they're they they want a grant.
They want to make sure it's it's public

681
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:30,160
parks or or whatnot. And it can be. I
mean, and that sounds great today, but

682
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:35,359
we don't know a hundred years from now.
>> I thought we were talking I agree, but I

683
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:39,280
thought we were talking month of
in a sense there's an in good faith part

684
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:42,960
of this too. Like we're going to do our
best, but I mean there's also

685
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:46,960
» No, I mean it's uh if we don't do our
best, you know, it's uh we can end up in

686
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,119
» I get it. We're not going to fast food
chain like we're not going to do

687
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:55,680
something crazy. But I mean
>> that's right. Well, I mean I would hate

688
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:59,520
to the concern would be if like uh if we
have infrastructure issues with water or

689
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:04,319
sewer and things that you know we've got
to put pipelines in or we've got to do

690
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:09,440
certain things or we have use it for for
electricity or whatnot we will be

691
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:12,160
absolutely prohibited from doing that.
>> Okay. So my question would be if we have

692
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,319
an idea of what we want to do with it
like if we bring them along and that

693
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:20,480
what's the herd in that? I mean, I would
hate to not get this land and

694
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,839
» I mean, my job is just to let you know
the risks. You see what I'm saying? So,

695
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:28,079
I mean, great that they're giving us
energy. Yeah. Or giving us property.

696
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:32,000
» Can you not can you not go to them if
there's like like you talk about

697
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:36,559
infrastructure, can you not go to them
after this is completed and and say,

698
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:41,440
"Hey, we have this going on."
>> They they we have included in here um

699
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:48,079
» three, right?
>> It's It's been so long since I've read

700
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:52,800
this. I think it was uh um
>> no I I think it's paragraph the second

701
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:57,839
page of paragraph nine that I mean we we
we can request

702
00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:00,720
modifications you know however you know
basically I mean it says the requested

703
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:04,240
modifications that remain generally
consistent with the open space

704
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:09,839
recreational conservation drainage and
public purpose intent of the property

705
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:11,520
you know and it's uh uh so so ultimately
they're going to have the the ultimate

706
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,240
say
>> okay Josh you've had a lot of

707
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:18,559
conversations with these folks folks,
based on the conversations that you've

708
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:21,680
had, any concerns from your perspective,
how do you feel about it? Like what what

709
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:24,079
are we not thinking through here?
>> Like I said last time, I don't speak

710
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,240
legally.
>> I understand, but from like the what we

711
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,839
want to do with it, the vision think
like that where's that temperature in

712
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:35,200
the room right now?
>> I think it has great access to doing

713
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,280
some good stuff that could help out the
city through trails and actually

714
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:45,440
connecting some trails from Bentonville
to Centerton. Uh we've had many meetings

715
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:50,160
with that of how to get trails from
third street from Collier to Centerton

716
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:54,400
and how to connect it to our trails we
have in the high school and do that and

717
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:59,520
it's a perfect place that we can get
through there. But you have to play by

718
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:04,640
the rules that they kind of put out.
>> Well, and and the thing is this. I think

719
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:10,160
that their current desire is good. I
think our I think it's an awesome place

720
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:14,400
but when an issue develops none of us
are going to be uh

721
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:18,720
» making decisions and none of them will
either. It'll be completely different

722
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:24,640
people. So I mean that's my job is just
to let you know of the risk so you guys

723
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:29,839
can make a the ultimate decision.
I mean I hate to say turn down

724
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:33,280
» like it's taken so long at this point a
special word fishing with them.

725
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,760
» Agree. I think it's
>> according to the warning according to

726
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:41,839
what you said
>> if we use this for park purposes

727
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:45,680
we have nothing to worry about
>> correct

728
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:52,319
» okay so the intended purpose of this
donation is for park purposes if we

729
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:57,200
waver away from that we will need to get
in writing that they are okay with that

730
00:56:54,799 --> 00:57:00,079
otherwise we stay within that lane that
they've given us

731
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,040
» like like yeah some of the parks that we
have now like uh you know the dog park

732
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:07,359
or the
If we needed to widen the road, we could

733
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,920
do that because we own it. We have the
right to do that. We could never do that

734
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,599
with this.
>> Okay.

735
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,960
» We would have to get permission to
widen.

736
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,920
» Exactly. And they're, you know, and I we
would have to expect that they're going

737
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:21,839
to say, "No, this was for park purposes,
not for

738
00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:24,960
» Well, it depends on what you mean
widening the road." I meant white. I

739
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,640
thought you meant widening the road to
>> Well, if it's for accessibility though,

740
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:33,599
like in number three, it covers
improvements shall be limited under

741
00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:36,240
certain use or under certain reasons
there. And accessibility is one of

742
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,520
those.
>> I feel like that's a little bit in good

743
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:43,440
faith right there. Right. Reasonably,
>> arguably again, I mean, worst case

744
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:48,240
scenario. Again, as long as it sticks
within the parameters of being a park

745
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,839
purpose,
>> keep it within the parameters of what

746
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:56,559
they recommended, which is outdoor green
space, outdoor trails, outdoor uses.

747
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:00,240
» Yeah. We have to widen it to make a
trail head. I'm sure they will.

748
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:04,079
» I don't think anything that they touched
though hasn't turned into something that

749
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:08,559
the city and surrounding cities
absolutely love. So like at this point I

750
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:13,200
feel like we would be doing oursel and
our community a disservice by not doing

751
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,520
this but we've worked on this long
enough I don't understand how we don't

752
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:18,480
have much progress on that.
>> I would also think that they would be

753
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,799
» can't get anything done without the deed
being transferable.

754
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,680
» I understand that piece but I'm just
talking about like the the ideation

755
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:29,520
whatever of what we want to do with it.
Like I understand we're not going to say

756
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:33,200
we want four green or four wooden stakes
here like

757
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,799
» four more baseball fields. But we're not
going to dump

758
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,520
» I know you're going to say that. I know
you're going to say that.

759
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,640
» I've said that a lot. Yeah. And
>> we're not going to dump a lot of money

760
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:44,920
into doing engineering if we don't own
the land. There's so much you can do.

761
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,599
» Then we go from there.
>> I guess my thing is I wonder if like

762
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:56,559
this has been after something like this
has happened before

763
00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:01,280
» and it wasn't followed through on. I
mean this is a lot of land worth a lot

764
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:06,880
of money. So I think that the protection
of the asset essentially is why they're

765
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,599
doing it. Um but
I mean I think we've

766
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:18,880
I mean the park thing can we not meet
with them like the council and them

767
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:23,680
together? Is that an option?
>> Well, I know this uh the attorney I was

768
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:29,119
working with was in Little Rock. So, I
guess a question I would have to council

769
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:33,920
is what would you want to do with that
land outside of keeping it green space

770
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:35,599
and park use and trails? What they're
chosing,

771
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:38,400
» right?
>> I don't know that there is

772
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:43,680
» I think that's everybody's current
intent. The question is what do we do in

773
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:47,839
the future when none of us are here and
we have no idea what the what the needs

774
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:54,400
are and we've got folks saying what were
these folks doing back in 2026 when they

775
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:59,280
agreed to you know in real estate though
those stipulations

776
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:02,960
» they say that about our downtown now
right

777
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:07,680
» is an opportunity to preserve 80 green
space within our community

778
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:12,480
» restrictions are listed in the deed and
this is the actual deed

779
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:18,000
restrictions are there.
>> The motion we pass it as as is.

780
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:22,000
» Yeah. I'll second there. Second there's
a section of land in Rogers that's on

781
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:24,799
prime commercial property that is a
designated prairie forever.

782
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:29,200
» Yeah.
>> And it's just because the family

783
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:33,280
designated that as Sl Prairie and will
stay a prairie

784
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:38,000
» now till the end of time, you know. So
there are things around here like that

785
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:41,760
where people want to preserve green
space and natural things. So I think

786
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:45,760
it's
>> it the intent is good. You know

787
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:48,559
» I think the benefit to the community
outweigh any potential risk down the

788
01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:53,359
road.
>> I think it if we pass it, you know

789
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:58,319
what's who's to say we can't bring them
along as that happens? I think that's a

790
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:02,799
pretty cool as well which a good thing
to keep them along and do

791
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:06,319
» perfect example is look at 8 street.
made by foundation. Look what they did

792
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:08,480
that with our pass and all that.
>> Don't We have a motion on the table. We

793
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,599
probably need
>> secondbody's motion. Somebody made a

794
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:17,280
motion. Josh made a second.
>> You're getting ahead here. We got to

795
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:21,760
read it first and then suspend the rule.
>> But but also I want to say when me and

796
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,559
Anthony talked about all this and I
think he talked to Josh too.

797
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:27,760
» Thank you Josh.
>> We have some opportunities. You were

798
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:31,200
talking about grants. We have
opportunities through the foundation to

799
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:33,760
get those grants you know to help us
with that. I think they have the same

800
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,040
vision we have. So,
>> well, there's a lot of access to good

801
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:41,760
grants here locally. So,
>> yeah. So,

802
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:45,400
all right. So, any more questions before
he reads it by title?

803
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:52,480
» That was a good question though. I
appreciate that, Council.

804
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:57,760
» Okay. Ordinance number 2026-32,
an ordinance accepting the conveyance of

805
01:01:54,480 --> 01:02:01,280
certain real property from Oakland LLC
to the city of Centeron, Arkansas,

806
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:05,520
authorizing the acceptance and recording
of a quick claim deed, establishing the

807
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:09,359
purpose and use of the property,
authorizing the mayor and city clerk to

808
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:14,319
execute necessary documents and for
other purposes. Some would like make a

809
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:18,000
motion to suspend the rule required read
on three separate occasions. So,

810
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:21,599
» we have a motion. We have a second.
Second.

811
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:24,400
» Have a second. Roll call, sir.
>> Thompson.

812
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:28,400
» Yes. Justin Calgary.
>> This is on three separate occasions.

813
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:33,848
» No.
>> Wendy Henson.

814
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,400
» I'm gonna say no as well.
[clears throat]

815
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,880
» Reed.
>> Yes.

816
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,559
» Joshua Hagen.
>> Yes.

817
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:41,520
» And Cody Miles.
>> Yes.

818
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:45,520
» Now, somebody make a motion to adopt
ordinance 2026 32. Here we are. Justin,

819
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,799
» make a motion.
>> Second.

820
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,440
» Motion. had a quick second.
>> Roll call, sir.

821
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,280
» Thompson,
>> yes.

822
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,799
» Johnson Calgary,
>> yes.

823
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,160
» Wendy Henson,
>> yes.

824
01:02:55,359 --> 01:02:57,520
» Jesse Reed,
>> yes.

825
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:58,960
» Joshua Hagen,
>> yes.

826
01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:03,040
» And Cody Miles,
>> yes.

827
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,720
» All right. This ordinance is ordinance
2026-33.

828
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:12,240
This is accepted a general utility
easement dedication from Ralph Coleman

829
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:17,680
Homes uh for property located on the
corner of Bliss and Counter.

830
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,680
Any
questions?

831
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:27,160
» City of Center. Somebody have questions.

832
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:35,559
» Lost. Sorry. We're good.
>> You're good. Okay. Go ahead. Council.

833
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:35,559
» City of Saratan ordinance number 2026-3.

834
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:42,079
An ordinance accepting a general utility
easement dedication from Ross Coleman

835
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:46,640
Homes for property located in part of
the southwest quarter of the northwest

836
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:51,280
quarter of section 32 township 20 north
range 31 west city of centeron Benton

837
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:54,799
County Arkansas
make a motion to suspend a rule

838
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,400
requiring three separate occasions
ordinance 20263.

839
01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:00,960
» I'll make a motion. You
>> have a motion. We have a second.

840
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:05,599
» Second.
>> Second. Roll call. Sir

841
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:07,119
Thompson. Yes.
>> Justin Calgary.

842
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,760
» No.
>> Lindy Henson.

843
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,520
» Desie Reed.
>> Yes.

844
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:14,000
» Joshua Hagen.
>> Yes.

845
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:20,839
» And Cody Miles. Yes.
>> All right. That's it for ordinances.

846
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,839
» Oh, wait.

847
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:25,720
» I'd like to make a motion to adopt
ordinance 2026-33.

848
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:32,079
» We have a motion. We have a second.
>> Second.

849
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,200
» All right. Now, roll call. Sorry. Todd
>> Thompson.

850
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:35,440
» Yes.
>> Dustin Calgary. Yes.

851
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,799
» Andy Hson,
>> yes.

852
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,079
» Jesse Reid,
>> yes.

853
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,440
» Joshua Hagen,
>> yes.

854
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:45,599
» And Cody Miles,
>> yes.

855
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:50,319
» Next is or resolution 2026-27.
This is a resolution that was brought to

856
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:57,599
me by the utility commission. Uh, and
they just wanted uh authorization for me

857
01:04:54,319 --> 01:05:06,319
and the utility director to be able to
execute certain documents for A and RC

858
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:10,160
commission. uh different things. That's
all there is to that. There's something

859
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:15,799
actually Malcolm brought to me. So, any
questions?

860
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,799
» And Malcolm, I don't think he's here.

861
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:25,559
» Okay. All right. No questions. Council
>> City of San Arkansas resolution 2026-27

862
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:32,319
resolution designated to authorize the
mayor and manager of the utility system

863
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:36,160
of the city of Son Arkansas to execute
documents in connection with funding

864
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,119
administrated by the Arkansas Natural
Resources Commission.

865
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,760
» I'm going to make motion to adopt
resolution 2026-27.

866
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:52,119
Second
>> Cody and coinated.

867
01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:54,960
» Yes.
>> Roll call, sir.

868
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:56,480
» Thompson.
>> Yes.

869
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,920
» Calgary.
>> Yes.

870
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,359
» Wendy Henson.
>> Yes.

871
01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:01,280
» Reed.
>> Yes. [laughter]

872
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,359
» Yes.
>> And Miles.

873
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:08,400
» Yes.
>> Takes five.

874
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:12,640
» Next is resolution 2026-28.
Uh this is adopted the center to

875
01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:17,520
downtown master plan which includes a
land use plan, master street plan and

876
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:24,400
master trails plan. There was a public
hearing at the last planning commission

877
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:30,000
meeting on September 1st. There was uh a
couple comments we received after that.

878
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:33,760
One was an email I sent you uh they were
just concerned with maintaining green

879
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:37,359
space. I sent to all of you. The other
one was one I received today which I

880
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,640
thought was a Bentonville resident but
looked like they lived at Bentonville

881
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:45,039
one time but they had some concerns too
comparing it to the Bentonville square.

882
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:52,400
And then also uh had a resident reach
out to me uh uh on Allen Road Maggie.

883
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:56,319
» Yeah, she did speak in the public
comment section. She just had some

884
01:06:53,920 --> 01:07:00,400
concerns. Uh her [clears throat] main
concern with me was are they going to

885
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:04,559
just come in and put this trail in? I
told her, "No, if there's all the land

886
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:07,200
and then they developed it, uh, then
that they would look at it at that time,

887
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,880
but they're not just gonna come in and
put a trail in there." That that was her

888
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:15,599
main concern with it. I I told her I
would acknowledge that here tonight when

889
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,520
she called me or talked to me yesterday.
So,

890
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:23,760
» add to that, Bill.
>> Yes, of course. She did contact me also.

891
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:27,839
Um, her concerns were, as you said, if
um the trail being drawn there, she

892
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:31,920
feels like that's a a given that that
trail is going to be built there. I

893
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,440
tried to alleviate her fears that it
would be if she ever transferred that

894
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:40,880
land to somebody else. But she also has
some concerns. She has some ideas about

895
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:46,240
developing that land herself. And she's
in fear that if she wants to reszone her

896
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:52,799
land and do something different, he
would then be

897
01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:58,400
required to build that trail. Um I I
told her that this is just the plan for

898
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:04,400
the future. But I think if if we look at
and I I don't think we can remove that

899
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:07,760
from the plan, but extension code and
the acquisition of this property we just

900
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,240
received, I think there's some more
sensible ways to make that connection

901
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:16,000
without necessarily crossing her
property and some of the other

902
01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:20,960
properties along there that would have
to beed.

903
01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:25,040
But anyway, that's neither here nor
there. That's down the road. But I I

904
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:31,199
told her that I would also voice those
concerns that she had if she opts to to

905
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:36,880
reszone and develop her own land in a
different format because it's

906
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:42,640
agricultural now. That would be forced
to to bifurcate her property and put a

907
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:46,400
trail and that's not what she would like
to see. So

908
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:50,880
» I I did connect her with with Juliet
last week as well. Um, and y'all talked

909
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:55,359
at LinkedIn, so I don't know if there's
just fear in general. Um,

910
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:59,679
» because I don't I mean, I think you made
it pretty clear that that's not

911
01:08:57,199 --> 01:09:06,560
» a possibility because we talked about an
ADU as well. Um, and because she talked

912
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:11,279
about possibly having her kids
on the property and then I think you

913
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:14,159
addressed that that if you have an ADU
then you wouldn't have to worry about

914
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:21,120
the additional zoning because of the
state law. So, I think we can

915
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:24,400
she's good. I don't know what she's
>> Yeah, I just wanted to bring that up and

916
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:27,679
then acknowledge the emails that we did
receive. And I think TJ wanted to say

917
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:33,679
just a couple words before. Oh, you
don't want to say a couple words. He's

918
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:38,319
here and so and they're all here.
>> You have any additional questions? They

919
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:43,199
are here. So, and then you heard public
comment from uh one of the participants

920
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:47,120
in there too. Has anybody got any
questions?

921
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,560
I did watch the whole thing though
there.

922
01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:51,600
» Yes.
>> I think I saw you on there when I

923
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:54,640
» I was on there.
>> Good. And it's still out there if

924
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:58,640
anybody wants to watch it. It's the
presentation's on YouTube.

925
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:02,400
» I'd say thank you for the work that was
put in and thank you to

926
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:06,560
» the land owners are willing to partner
with the city to help us move forward.

927
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:11,760
That's it's amazing. It's a huge
investment of your property, your

928
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:16,400
legacy. So, all right. Nice.
>> All right. Any more questions?

929
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:21,000
Council
>> City of Center resolution number 2026-28

930
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:27,040
a resolution adopting the Center
downtown master plan including land use

931
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:31,440
plan, master street plan and master
trails plan for downtown for the

932
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:37,640
downtown area pursuant to Arkansas code
annotated sections 1456414

933
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,640
and 1456422.

934
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,080
I'm going to make a motion to adopt
resolution 2026-28.

935
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:49,760
» We have a motion. We have a second.
>> Second.

936
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:53,360
» Cliff or Wendy? I heard them both.
>> Take your pick.

937
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:57,600
» I heard Cliff first, but
>> I like ladies first. I'm taking Wendy.

938
01:10:55,679 --> 01:11:00,560
» Taking Wendy. All right. Well, when
you're done taking it, go ahead and do

939
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,560
the roll call, sir.
>> Cliff Thompson.

940
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:03,920
» Yes.
>> Justin Calgary.

941
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,120
» Yes.
>> Wendy Henson?

942
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:06,159
» Yes.
>> Jesse Reid?

943
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,400
» Yes.
>> Joshua Hagen? Yes.

944
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:12,960
» And Cody Miles.
>> Yes.

945
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:15,440
» Lorraine, you can breathe now.
>> And Juliet.

946
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,239
» Yes. And Juliet, thank you so much for
getting this updated in such a short

947
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,560
time. Appreciate that.
>> And just for just for record, this this

948
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:27,040
update Juliet tells me will also be on
our website soon. She updated it. So

949
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:34,239
» she says there now. So, and it's in your
Dropbox, the most updated one.

950
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:40,000
» All right. Next is resolution 2026-29.
Uh, this is purchasing a truck, correct?

951
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,000
» Josh, where you at? Tell me what I'm
buying.

952
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:50,719
» I think we're buying a tandem axle truck
with a snow and ice equipment

953
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:55,600
basically. I think we actually that was
this last year.

954
01:11:51,840 --> 01:12:01,679
» Yeah, this is a uh
brake liner. Only we could find. It's a

955
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:05,840
dump truck, 10-wheeler, plow ready.
We budgeted for it last year, ordered it

956
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,640
last year and we're still waiting. Truck
sits there sitting there. Everything's

957
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,400
there and ready to go. They're just
waiting on the bed to be built. Uh they

958
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,199
were doing it along with OD do so. So
they're trying to build them at the same

959
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:21,560
time
into our fleet because we're getting

960
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,560
truck for multi-purpose.

961
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:28,880
» And this this book about street fund,
this money was budgeted in last year's

962
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:34,080
bud or this year's budget.
So, the funds are there. Any questions?

963
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:37,040
» And we did fix the document that you
asked. I sent it to you.

964
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:44,000
» Okay.
>> All right.

965
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:48,080
Or go ahead. Resolution number 2026-29,
a resolution authorizing the city of

966
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:51,840
Center, Arkansas to purchase a tandem
axle truck with snow and ice equipment

967
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:56,719
from Industrial Truck Equipment and
Wland Incorporated of Oklahoma City,

968
01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:00,880
Oklahoma through the Source Cooperative
Purchasing Agreement contract number

969
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:05,280
06222
VCM

970
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:09,920
authorized an expenditure not to exceed
$241,000

971
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:13,840
confirming the purchase uh is a budgeted
item and for other purposes.

972
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:17,679
» Someone would like to make a motion to
adopt resolution 2026-9.

973
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,480
» So moved.
>> We have a motion. We have a second.

974
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,600
» Second.
>> Second by Cliff. Roll call.

975
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,960
» Thompson.
>> Yes.

976
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:26,159
» Calgary.
>> Yes.

977
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:27,280
» Simpson.
>> Yes.

978
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,560
» Josie Reed.
>> Yes.

979
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,040
» Joshua Hagen.
>> Yes.

980
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:35,280
» Yes.
>> All right. This last resolution is

981
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:41,280
resolution 2026-30.
I'll have Alan up here. Uh but basically

982
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:46,080
what this is is we are now ready to
start executing some easements on

983
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:50,719
greenhouse road. Uh we we've have them
now we have to start paying for them.

984
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:53,120
» However, I have a $35,000 spending limit
by ordinance.

985
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,280
» Probably won't get too far down
greenhouse won't get me far. Some of

986
01:13:55,440 --> 01:14:03,199
these are over 35,000 and actually
there's 41 different properties. Some

987
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:06,800
are pretty low. Uh by now the easements
we get 80% of it back. So,

988
01:14:05,536 --> 01:14:10,239
[clears throat] we'll we'll be out 20%
of the cost of this because we have a

989
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:15,440
grant for the other 80%. Is Alan, you
want to add anything?

990
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:20,239
» Uh, we've had appraisals done and off of
these and talking to all the residents

991
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:24,640
at least a little bit. We have a
probably 85% of the ones we're looking

992
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,800
at are done and approved. Homeowners
signed them. We haven't sent anything

993
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:32,400
out yet because we were waiting to get
to finalized plans. Um they're waiting

994
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:37,199
on Black Hills Energy and Aerrol
Electric Line realignments, but this

995
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:40,560
point um we have an agreement with
Bentonville proceed with cost for the

996
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,920
construction going through everything
that we want to go ahead and start

997
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:49,120
paying some of these and acquiring the
land now. It's not delayed to get those

998
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:54,239
out. And like you said, this is a grant
project. So we'll send out the full cost

999
01:14:51,920 --> 01:15:00,080
our fund and then we'll request 80%.
We'll get that back from ART.

1000
01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:05,040
And also you will see all the easements
that we get right away because we have

1001
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:11,920
to accept them. So you will get to see
those and put the blessing on them

1002
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:17,120
all the cost. So but I was just covered
more for my spending authority.

1003
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,040
Any more questions?
>> We have any idea what it's going to

1004
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:24,000
cost?
>> He can tell you. Yeah. Is that number?

1005
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:28,800
Um
>> a million dollars and then we'll get

1006
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,800
800,000 back.

1007
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:37,360
Thank you.
>> More. That's a good question.

1008
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:43,920
» Hey, councelor.
>> Resolution number 2026-30,

1009
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:47,840
a resolution authorizing the mayor of
the city of Senates in Arkansas to

1010
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:52,080
purchase right ofway and easements for
the greenhouse road project authorized

1011
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:57,040
expenditures in excess of the mayor's
$35,000 spending authority and for other

1012
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:02,560
purposes. Someone would like to make a
motion to adopt resolution 2026-30.

1013
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:04,800
» We have a motion by Wendy. We have a
second.

1014
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,719
» Second.
>> Second by Josie.

1015
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,640
» Roll call, sir.
>> Cody Miles,

1016
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:12,480
» yes.
>> Joshua Hagen,

1017
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,840
» yes.
>> Josie Reed,

1018
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,360
» yes.
>> Wendy Henson,

1019
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:18,800
» yes.
>> Mr. Calgary, yes. And Cliff Thompson,

1020
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:24,400
» yes.
>> All right, that takes care of those.

1021
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:28,719
Next is approve or adopting or
confirming the adopted bylaws by the

1022
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:34,560
planning commission which say approved
on 818 and 26. Uh the basic changes to

1023
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:39,360
this it's just lining up with the code
we just passed with the require one of

1024
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:45,600
these to match the code. So that that's
basically all it is. It just lines up

1025
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:50,880
with that. Any questions?
Someone would like to make a motion to

1026
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:56,159
uh approve the bylaws as presented by
the planning commission.

1027
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:59,360
» We have a motion. Second,
>> second by Wendy.

1028
01:16:57,679 --> 01:17:06,480
» All in favor?
>> Any opposed? All right. Next is a change

1029
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:11,120
order. Uh this is a cover we put in over
on uh

1030
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:13,840
» Perry Drive and uh we had a What caused
the change order, Alan? Since you're

1031
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:16,400
already walking up this way, tell us
what caused it. I'll say if I need to

1032
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,199
talk.
>> Yeah, go ahead and talk. It's $6,100. I

1033
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:23,920
I know that.
>> Um what it was when we started putting

1034
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:28,080
the uh box in, there is a house lead
with a sanitary sewer and a sanitary

1035
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:34,239
main in the area. We were doing mortar.
So we had to extend the concrete bottom

1036
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:40,159
of the the uh ditch line to cover that
line. Uh was originally proposed to stop

1037
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:43,920
before the sanitary sewer. And with
that, we talked with the sewer

1038
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:47,280
department. Not sure we had the cover.
pushed it way past to protect that sewer

1039
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:52,000
line. So in case there's any kind of
erosion in the future, that sewer line's

1040
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:56,440
protected as well as to protect
the end of their building. So

1041
01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:03,360
» this up to Cass Park, is that right?
I've been seeing it. Yeah. See it kind

1042
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:07,199
of
>> questions.

1043
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:11,360
Someone like make a motion to approve
the Jack Perry Covert Replacement Ch

1044
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,880
number two.
>> I move.

1045
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,760
» We have a motion. Do we have a second?
>> Second.

1046
01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:20,400
» Second. All in favor?
>> I.

1047
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:24,560
» Anyone opposed? All right. Next, I'm
going to bring Shannon up real quick.

1048
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:29,679
Uh, discuss a policy. And we, just for
the record, we've had no no issues with

1049
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:36,280
this at all. We just She'll tell you why
we did this, though. she has it.

1050
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,280
You will let us know.

1051
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:43,600
» Uh so the reason we're doing this is
that um I was at the Arkansas Government

1052
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:46,640
Finance Officers Association meeting and
they're saying that every city should

1053
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:51,440
have a fraud, waste, and abuse
prevention policy in place just because

1054
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:56,320
of certain things that have happened in
many cities including ours. So what the

1055
01:18:54,480 --> 01:19:00,880
purpose of this is just to protect um
our public resources by preventing,

1056
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:05,920
detecting, addressing fraud, waste,
abuse, theft and unethical or illegal

1057
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:10,080
activities within the city. Um it
applies to all elected officials,

1058
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:14,480
employees, volunteers, contractors,
consultants, and anyone conducting

1059
01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:17,920
business on behalf of the city.
Um basically in it, it gives a

1060
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:23,840
definition of what fraud, waste, and
abuse is. It lets you know the

1061
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:29,199
responsibility as employees on how to
conduct yourself as a city employee. Um

1062
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:34,320
how to be honest and ethical. Also it
talks about how um department directors

1063
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:39,840
how they can maintain their own internal
controls and with the finance department

1064
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:45,360
how I can maintain financial controls
such as bank reconciliations

1065
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:51,040
um review periodic reviews also having
legislative audit um and then it also

1066
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:54,960
gives instructions on how to report if
you suspect there's any fraud going on

1067
01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:58,800
in any of your departments it tells you
who to contact your immediate supervisor

1068
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,440
department director finance director,
mayor, city attorney. Um, it also lets

1069
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:08,480
you know that there is predict uh
protection against retaliation

1070
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:13,120
and it reviews with you how the
investigation that will be ongoing and

1071
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:18,159
any corrective actions that are needed
which can be disciplinary actions up to

1072
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:21,920
including termination, restitution,
civil action, criminal prosecution or

1073
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:28,239
referral to state and federal
authorities. Um and then also it talks

1074
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:31,440
about internal controls such as in my
department we have segregation of

1075
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:36,480
duties. You don't want too many people
doing the same job. Um approval

1076
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:42,400
hierarchies which we do have bank
reconciliations, inventory controls and

1077
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:47,040
u annual financial audits. And then it
just go it just says that um this will

1078
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:50,880
be reviewed every year and changes will
be made and brought to you guys

1079
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:54,000
accordingly.
>> Very good. Do you guys have any

1080
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:55,679
questions in regards to this?
>> I have a question for you.

1081
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,520
» Sure.
>> After this,

1082
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:05,120
» we can finish this, but I have a
question before you leave.

1083
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:09,040
» I'm just curious speaking to Andrew Sa's
concerns. I think we probably have some

1084
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:12,480
checks and balances in place regarding
billing and paying.

1085
01:21:10,719 --> 01:21:15,600
» Can you speak to that a little bit so we
understand that current process? as far

1086
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:20,960
as like a
>> far as if the city attorney provides

1087
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:23,520
bills, they're not just received by the
mayor and paid, right? There's checks

1088
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:28,960
and balances.
>> Checks and balances. We do review them.

1089
01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:33,280
Um, as far as his goes, he does give he
does explain exactly what he's doing,

1090
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:37,679
how much time is spent, how it's charged
out, things like that. It is reviewed by

1091
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:41,360
the mayor, by myself. It's sent to
payables for payments. If there's

1092
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:45,360
anything that doesn't look right, we
question things. All of the bills that

1093
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:49,120
we pay are reviewed by the mayor, by
myself, by department heads, and signed

1094
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:52,320
off.
>> I just wanted to make that clear because

1095
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,199
» and everything gets seen by
>> exception was it was one elected

1096
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,679
official sending a bill to another
elected official that was just being

1097
01:21:56,639 --> 01:22:00,080
paid.
>> A lot of steps before it's actually

1098
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,000
paid.
>> Thank you.

1099
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:06,639
» And everything is also reviewed by
legislative audit and anything that is

1100
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:11,520
as they feel out of the ordinary is
brought to our attention. So, so far it

1101
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:14,639
has not been
>> Thank you.

1102
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:19,440
» Any more questions on this policy for
>> um the protection against retaliation? I

1103
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:24,880
understand the heart behind that and I
agree behind it. The one thing that I'm

1104
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:30,639
looking at though is this is a big deal.
I mean if you you make an accusation

1105
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:38,000
that somebody is stealing basically
uh the person who has been accused

1106
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:41,280
here the way this looks as though I
don't know I feel like there should be

1107
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:46,560
some kind of and perhaps there's not but
some kind of protection for that person

1108
01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:51,440
as well because that is if it's proven
false I mean it's hard to gain that

1109
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:54,639
integrity back among some people so
perhaps there needs to be something

1110
01:22:52,639 --> 01:23:02,920
included to protect
the accused as well until proven.

1111
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:02,920
» We can add something for that.

1112
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,159
» We want to wait.
>> Does that need to be

1113
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,800
» You want to table it and then bring it
back next month?

1114
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:13,040
» We can do that.
>> We'll bring it back next month.

1115
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:19,840
» Speak with HR in regards to it.
>> Jos's here to

1116
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:23,760
» Right. He's asking a question. She's on
the Zoom. I'm sorry.

1117
01:23:20,719 --> 01:23:27,360
» Well, okay. I was looking for it.
She's on Zoom. I don't know if she What

1118
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:32,719
was the question? Because I was looking.
>> So the question from Josh was, you know,

1119
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:36,320
the retaliatory and that topic in
general, the sensitivity behind it. Is

1120
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,239
there if we wanted to update some
wording in that, do we just need to

1121
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:43,120
bring that back next month versus
passing it?

1122
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:48,000
» You could I mean I quite frankly I think
you could prove it today and then you

1123
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:51,760
could, you know, amend it next month or
you could wait till next month. You

1124
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:56,719
know, I I kind of like the fact that we
we're getting something in in place

1125
01:23:53,920 --> 01:24:01,400
today. I don't have any
>> an update

1126
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,400
» with just just adding later.

1127
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,400
» You want you want to go ahead and
approve it and have her bring back

1128
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:10,239
» amendment. Yeah.
>> Is that with council or

1129
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:14,080
» I mean Josh is that are you making a
motion on that or you

1130
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:18,080
» I mean I would I brand new. We've never
had it done. Why not?

1131
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,280
So in it, it does say knowingly making
false allegations result in disciplinary

1132
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:25,760
action.
>> Yeah. Well, the person that makes the

1133
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:28,760
accusation is not knowingly
being

1134
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:35,679
blaming the person's character. They're
they're thinking that they did involve

1135
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:40,080
in stealing, you know, whatever. Then it
comes out that it was actually false.

1136
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:44,400
Well, if somebody says that about Joe
over here and his five co-workers all

1137
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:48,400
know that was out there and they all
believe it, but then it's proven false.

1138
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:53,520
The person who made the accusation
wasn't intending to do Joe any harm, but

1139
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:56,400
yet in the end, Joe was harmed. So
perhaps there's some something there

1140
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:59,679
where it's kept
>> it's kept I don't I don't call it under

1141
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:04,400
wraps, but whatever needs to be
happening confidential until it, you

1142
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:10,719
know, until it's proven and at that
point it is what it is. But that way Joe

1143
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:15,120
does not have to deal with the
repercussion of his co-workers even

1144
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:18,239
during the process because that can be a
that can be an emotional

1145
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:24,480
» pain as well.
>> I'll just join [clears throat]

1146
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:28,560
» on that Josh. So um
thinking through thinking through that

1147
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:33,360
whole process you know if if we're
working together and I think well that's

1148
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:38,560
kind of weird. Why did Josh do that? If
there's repercussions, if I'm wrong,

1149
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:42,560
that's going to prevent me from
>> Well, I say that's a repution there. But

1150
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:46,560
I mean, I think you have to be careful
about, you know, if the investigation

1151
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,719
happens and it's proven that you weren't
doing anything wrong, then should I be

1152
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:54,639
punished because from what I saw it, I
was perceiving that as wrong. So, I

1153
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,120
think you can you can kind of
>> You're hearing me wrong.

1154
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,760
» I'm I'm understanding what
>> Yeah, you're hearing me wrong. I'm I'm

1155
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:04,320
not saying that there something goes
back on that person. I'm saying the

1156
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:06,639
accused needs protection as well.
>> So I would think that there would be an

1157
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,639
SOP for that.
>> Well, the accused the the accused

1158
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:15,440
wouldn't be publicized. I mean it should
be kept confidential.

1159
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:19,840
» H3 has the reporting structure of who
would be notified or involved

1160
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:22,560
» that
immediate supervisor department director

1161
01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:25,440
finance director mayor.
>> Okay. Then it just needs to be

1162
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:29,120
» Yeah. I mean
>> confidential

1163
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:33,120
» it's being shared with other other
employees then we've got bigger issues.

1164
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:36,880
» It does say reports may be made
confidentially to the extent followed by

1165
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:40,480
law.
>> I was right above it and I missed that

1166
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:43,679
and that happens. So
>> you're good the way it is.

1167
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:46,880
» Why? Hey, I had a question
>> and it gets fleshed out. I would much

1168
01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:51,320
rather ask my question and then fleshed
out. So yeah,

1169
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:51,320
» you're good the way it's written then.

1170
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:58,000
» Josh, I'm I'm ready.
I'll just No, no, I just want to make

1171
01:26:55,280 --> 01:27:01,120
sure you're good. Sorry.
>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, as long as it's kept

1172
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:04,400
confidential and it says that in there,
that just some protection to the per to

1173
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,400
the accused.
>> Yes.

1174
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:10,960
» Good job, Shan.
>> Thanks.

1175
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:15,280
» Thank you.
>> You do want to move forward with them.

1176
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:18,320
» Somebody make a motion to adopt the city
fraud, waste, and abuse prevention

1177
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:23,199
policy. So, move to.
>> We have a motion by mo by Wendy. We have

1178
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:26,239
a second. Second.
I'm gonna let you pick it. I heard Cliff

1179
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:30,080
and I heard Cliff.
>> I give it to J. You know who?

1180
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:34,080
» Make up your mind. You got it though for
the minutes, right?

1181
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:37,080
» All in favor?
Anyone?

1182
01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:48,719
» Anything? Not approved. Okay. All right.
Next is a proposal for Little Free

1183
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:53,040
Library at Cornerwood Park.
>> I think uh Yeah, here she comes. She has

1184
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:57,600
» she met with Josh. Josh was okay with
it,

1185
01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:01,280
» but my ordinance that we approved uh
they now have to be approved by the city

1186
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:04,560
council. So
anyway, go ahead and introduce yourself

1187
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:10,719
and tell us what you want to do.
>> Hi, I'm Ally Strader and I'm at 14:30

1188
01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:16,080
Ocean Drive. Um I would like to put a
little free library at Cornerwoods Park.

1189
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:19,440
Um, it's right off of a little trail
that we already have and we have a lot

1190
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:22,639
of kids that are hanging out at that
park and there's actually a spot there

1191
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,920
from where the little free pantry was
that we could install it. So, we would

1192
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:30,080
like to have a community service
initiative. I'm representing myself and

1193
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:34,320
a friend of mine. She's not able to come
tonight, but we would like to steward

1194
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:39,440
the Little Free Library, which is
through the national nonprofit. So, all

1195
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:43,520
of the resources, tools, and everything
for stewardship would fall on us. It

1196
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:48,880
would not require anything from the
city. And we're go wanting to promote

1197
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:53,199
early literacy, access to books, um for
maybe kids that can't get to the library

1198
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:56,639
or things like that. Whenever I spoke
with Josh, one of the things that came

1199
01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:00,719
up was that there were some issues with
the pantry and that it had to be

1200
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:05,840
removed. And so we are going to take on
the burden of checking on the little

1201
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:09,760
free life twice a week. Um if one of us
is unavailable, we will have a proxy

1202
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:13,840
come in and check on it for us. not only
ensuring that there's no vandalism, but

1203
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:18,000
making sure that the content in the
library is appropriate for children,

1204
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:21,520
that nothing has been added. We will
make sure that there is contact

1205
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:25,600
information on the library itself so
that if a parent does see something,

1206
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:28,800
they can report it to us. I live pretty
much across the street, so I would be

1207
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:35,280
able to walk over and handle it pretty
immediately. Um and then also the little

1208
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:40,159
free library has charter numbers that
they would be able to also make sure

1209
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:44,080
that the national organization is aware
library as well. So the checks and

1210
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:49,520
balances would not fall on us as just
two individuals. Um, also making sure

1211
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,639
that
if there is anything that's done, you

1212
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:57,120
know, if there are books that are
damaged and or if you know, something

1213
01:29:54,880 --> 01:30:01,120
happens that affects the park, we would
take the responsibility to come by and

1214
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:05,120
make sure that that gets cleaned up. The
only thing that we would need from the

1215
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:11,120
city is just making sure that we can
install it. Um I personally am not very

1216
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:15,440
handy but we can make sure that it is
created to fit those existing ground

1217
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:20,560
screws and so it doesn't require any
additional you know resources or um any

1218
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:25,719
materials or anything like that. It
should be able to go in in the existing

1219
01:30:22,719 --> 01:30:25,719
space.

1220
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,440
» Okay. Anybody got any questions?

1221
01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:37,360
» Josh, you're good too, right? Yeah. I
know you met with her.

1222
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:41,920
» Good job. Thank you.
>> Somebody make motion to approve this

1223
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:46,719
little free library at Cornerwoods Park.
>> Let me Bonnie be just be advocate for a

1224
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:52,320
second. Um
>> do that. [laughter]

1225
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:56,639
» Well, no. I mean, I I I just I I think
if if we're going to approve it, we just

1226
01:30:54,239 --> 01:31:03,520
perhaps do some sort of contractual
agreement that way. if for some reason

1227
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:08,000
you relocate or something, god forbid,
happens to you or whatnot, that that we

1228
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:13,440
we have the means to to be able to to to
deal with it if if necessary. So that if

1229
01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:18,480
if it continues be vandalized, it's not
being taken care of, the city has a a a

1230
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:24,080
right and a any a means to remove it or
or whatnot. I don't object. I think it's

1231
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:27,280
a great idea. I just need to uh to cover
the municipality.

1232
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:31,120
» Yes. So we actually already have those
contingencies. So if something were to

1233
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:35,199
happen to me, there is an additional
person who her name is in the proposal.

1234
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:40,880
She's also a Citton resident named Stacy
Lee. She is the person that would come

1235
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:44,400
in. And then also if I were to relocate,
I have the ability to transfer that

1236
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:49,920
charter to somewhere else because it's
required by Little Free uh libraries

1237
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:54,320
nonprofit organization that all Little
Free Libraries that are official have a

1238
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:58,800
dedic dedicated steward within a certain
radius. So if I relocate, I have to let

1239
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:01,760
them know that I've relocated and either
pull the library or transfer the charter

1240
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,719
to someone.
>> They do you think they may have some

1241
01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:08,800
sort of model agreement then that
potentially we can utilize?

1242
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:13,040
» They might um they do have an entire
like an entire portal just for library

1243
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:16,080
charters. So, I would have to look into
that a little bit more, but

1244
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:21,600
» because my position would be I'm I'm
fine with the council uh uh

1245
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:25,280
voting in in the positive for this, but
I think it'd be contentioned on just

1246
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:31,840
some sort of agreement that way we have
something uh just in case

1247
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:36,480
worst case scenario business. Sorry.
>> No, that's I mean those are things that

1248
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:39,040
need to be considered. You know, I I get
the push back because Josh told me a

1249
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:42,480
little bit what happened with the
pantry, and I definitely don't want to

1250
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:48,920
create one of those situations. So,
anything considered, I'm more than open

1251
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:48,920
to suggestions on that.

1252
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:56,080
» Let me rephrase that. Would somebody
make motion to approve the Little Free

1253
01:32:54,239 --> 01:33:00,639
Library
with an agreement uh either drawn up by

1254
01:32:58,639 --> 01:33:05,120
Brian or them, and we can review it
before you install it?

1255
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:08,080
» I I think that would be fine. I would
ask you check and see if they've got

1256
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:12,880
something because they may have been
there done that and we can use that as a

1257
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:16,960
model. If not, if you draft with me
drafting something just

1258
01:33:14,719 --> 01:33:21,280
» we'll get something short just contact
one of the

1259
01:33:18,719 --> 01:33:23,520
» Okay, Justin made the motion.
>> Second.

1260
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:28,239
» Second by here Cody.
>> Okay, Cody Ms. All in favor.

1261
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:29,520
» Any opposed?
>> All right. Thank you.

1262
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,040
» Pretty cool.
>> Thank you so much.

1263
01:33:31,449 --> 01:33:37,880
» [clears throat]
>> is Chief Harper. I see you back there.

1264
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:50,560
» So, Cody has wrote you me a a memo about
a possible rank structure. So, he's

1265
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:53,360
going to explain that. Then he has some
other business he wants to bring up too

1266
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:57,520
after this.
>> The request doesn't change our headcount

1267
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,320
and it doesn't cost any money for the
city.

1268
01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:03,120
» I'll say reduce by 52,000. I was
wondering if you

1269
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:06,960
» So when I looked at the overall our
current staffing and our current wages,

1270
01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:09,040
I'm actually going to be under $52,000
under

1271
01:34:07,679 --> 01:34:10,560
» Oh, got it. Got it. Got it.
>> For 2026.

1272
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:13,199
» Okay.
>> Okay.

1273
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:15,679
» So, even with this change that figured
into there, I'm still going to be under

1274
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:19,199
by 52,000.
>> Got it.

1275
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:22,320
» Um the request is just to change our um
our rank structure a little bit within

1276
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:27,360
the department. Uh for a long time,
we've always ran really low on our

1277
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:30,719
leadership. Uh just to kind of build up
our patrol numbers. We got our patrol

1278
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:34,960
numbers built up. Now we're back filling
into our leadership to make sure that

1279
01:34:32,719 --> 01:34:40,480
we're just our headcount per leader is
accurate. The task for that that leader

1280
01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:44,840
is also at a level which is um you know
everyday task can can be done.

1281
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,600
» Your ask is this change a one position
to a lieutenant?

1282
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,880
» Correct.
>> Okay.

1283
01:34:50,719 --> 01:34:56,880
» So are are you currently a full staff or
is that how we're drawing the 52,000

1284
01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:00,000
because we have an opening?
>> No. So, I mean, we're we're not

1285
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:03,840
currently at full staff. I have
reopenings, but those openings are

1286
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:08,080
always kind of on a on a rolling basis,
just like with anybody else.

1287
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:12,080
» Is there is there
immediate need or is it something that

1288
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:16,560
could wait till 27 where it could be
budgeted for 27 so that if you're full

1289
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:20,560
staff, there will be an additional
impact. Right.

1290
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:26,199
» The need is here now. I mean, if I have
the finances to do it, I would I would

1291
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:26,199
recommend doing it now.

1292
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,199
question.
>> I'm just curious about, you know, if

1293
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:38,960
we're using
I'm not trying to be a pain, but if

1294
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:43,440
we're using funds that are allocated for
a position that we currently have that

1295
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:47,440
we're not feeling. So that 52,000 what
that can what that takes into

1296
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:52,400
consideration is if I was at fully staff
that $52,000 is the people who are no

1297
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:57,360
longer here what the current salaries
are and the current headcount overall.

1298
01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:00,880
» So that's where my $52,000 in savings
comes from.

1299
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:06,239
» You understand that? But you still have
a position there that's not filled,

1300
01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:10,400
right? That's what I did is I took those
numbers and for the rest of the year I

1301
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:14,000
have put that amount in there for every
one of those replacements for those

1302
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:18,880
patrol officers to give me an overall
number for the whole year if I was fully

1303
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:23,600
staffed today. So how many positions do
you have to be fully staffed?

1304
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,840
» You have three openings right now.
>> Correct.

1305
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:30,719
» You're drawing from that money. So
that's actually that's budgeted, right?

1306
01:36:28,639 --> 01:36:34,000
So if you if we make this change and
then you go out and you fill those three

1307
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:36,400
positions, then we've actually had an
increase. You see what I'm saying? You

1308
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:41,600
have
>> you're saying but like the overall

1309
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:44,400
dollar here for this is $2,000 in the
whole remainder of the year. I'm talking

1310
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:50,159
about for the like you're talking like
it's a dollar more for the promotion

1311
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:54,320
itself with all of the attached benefits
and all of those things. You're probably

1312
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:58,639
talking under $3,000 for accelerated
benefits for that promotion. I just want

1313
01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:03,040
I I'm wanting to be really cautious
about what we do now that's going to

1314
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:05,920
impact 27 because I think
>> I think we're going to have some

1315
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:09,360
challenges ahead of us and I wouldn't be
asking if I hadn't ran everything

1316
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:13,920
because this is something that's very
doable

1317
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:20,520
itself is very small in the whole scheme
of things. Is this the biggest request

1318
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,520
is the internal rank structure change

1319
01:37:21,679 --> 01:37:25,639
» question. Any other questions?

1320
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:32,159
I may make a motion to approve the rank
structure as proposed by Chief Harper.

1321
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,760
» So moved.
>> Can we have a second?

1322
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:37,360
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1323
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:41,360
» Any oppose?
>> All right. Then chief had something

1324
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:44,719
else. He he brought to me. I told him we
should have discussion with So he's

1325
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:49,280
going to bring up.
>> Yes. Uh so this is just to start a

1326
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:54,880
conversation um with with our
department. So, one of our our well, not

1327
01:37:52,560 --> 01:38:00,800
one of the largest requests for uh
police activity or in the city is for

1328
01:37:57,679 --> 01:38:05,679
requests for traffic, go out monitoring
traffic and neighborhoods um on the

1329
01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:09,760
state highways and parks. I mean, that's
the number one request activity is

1330
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:14,000
traffic enforcement. Uh so what we're
doing um is we're actually going to be

1331
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:17,679
taking a block of officers and
rearranging some schedules and things in

1332
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:22,239
there and making a dedicated traffic
unit to where they're only going to be

1333
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:24,400
working traffic and accidents. Uh we're
also going to be sending these

1334
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:29,600
individuals through accident
reconstruction um due to the unfortunate

1335
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:34,639
circumstances of our accidents are
getting more severe than what they have

1336
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:38,560
been over the course of years. Um, so we
need to make sure that we have that

1337
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:44,480
staff to do reconstruction.
Um, the staff that will be on.

1338
01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:49,520
I also have uh some specialized
individuals in there who are cycle

1339
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:53,760
certified to be able to operate
motorcycles. I even have one individual

1340
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:58,159
who would be working with this group as
well who is a certified instructor who

1341
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:01,920
can actually teach the actual class and
do all the training to certify officers

1342
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:06,320
to be all.
Um, so what we would like to do is we

1343
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:12,400
would like to look at purchasing two
motorcycles to go into this unit for our

1344
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:17,679
traffic division. Um, overall cost for
the motorcycles themselves, um, this

1345
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:25,320
would be a full package deal from
Harley-Davidson

1346
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:25,320
back here is just under 32,000.

1347
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:35,119
Um, 31,000 and some change on that. Um
that is a 2026 pricing that would

1348
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:39,199
include uh the motorcycle all the
upfitting. The only thing that we would

1349
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:43,679
have to do is a couple of um
communication things for the officer to

1350
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:49,840
have a button to operate a radio uh
helmets and some striping and things for

1351
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:54,880
um those units. Um we what we'd like to
do is start exploring that option um to

1352
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:58,639
see what we could if it's something in
which council would support so we can

1353
01:39:56,480 --> 01:40:02,239
actually look at it.
There are various options that we could

1354
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:05,600
do as far as leasing the motorcycles as
well. Uh would not be with through

1355
01:40:03,679 --> 01:40:09,840
Enterprise, but there is a leasing
option through Harley like Davidson.

1356
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,400
» I expect one through Enterprise. That
would have been interesting.

1357
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:19,760
» They don't they don't they just don't do
that. Um the example, the uh the lease

1358
01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:23,760
cost would be $745 a month and that
would be at a four-year lease with a

1359
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:30,080
$1,000 residual at the end of that
making it very uh costefficient um for

1360
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:36,239
budgeting and so forth. Um this is also
something in which um looking at the

1361
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:40,400
budget for uh 2026 it would be something
in which I could absorb within my uh

1362
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:44,560
2026 budget if we decided to go that
direction or the other two would be

1363
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:48,159
looking at using some of our impact fees
uh for stuff like this. Our impact fees

1364
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:52,960
as far as I understand it can be used
for vehicles and new buildings and

1365
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:59,360
things like that. So wanted to open up
that discussion uh with you all so see

1366
01:40:56,080 --> 01:41:02,800
which which direction um either continue
researching it, bring a plan for next

1367
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:07,840
council meeting, kind of go from there
or um if it's something that we kind of

1368
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:14,639
the other direction on.
>> What's the benefit of motorcycles versus

1369
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:19,119
» the biggest benefit is is going to the
scenes. um you have low lower visibility

1370
01:41:17,119 --> 01:41:22,080
as far as being out and about, but
they're more maneuverable to getting

1371
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:24,800
into accidents, getting into places in
which you're trying to get to those

1372
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:28,239
places. And
>> would it reduce our current vehicle

1373
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:31,440
fleet heading for?
>> No. What it would do is it would

1374
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:35,920
actually be like kind of a pool. I mean,
we don't have enough resources to be

1375
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:38,719
issuing everybody, but it' be a poolled
resource.

1376
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:43,280
» It's easy to hide though in hight
traffic, you know, areas. I know I used

1377
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:46,080
to work in law and they high
motorcycles. We had people trying to

1378
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:51,119
turn left on to what's I [clears throat]
don't know what the name of that street

1379
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:55,600
what's that main street there 264 anyway
>> yeah they they'd hide you could even see

1380
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:59,600
them and people turn left motorcycle get
them right away [laughter]

1381
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:03,360
» another
motorcycle back then

1382
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:09,840
» what is your what is your position on
using impact fees versus leasing

1383
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:14,960
as far as like have you looked at the
benefits of one versus the other

1384
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:19,280
» I I mean, if we have the money, I can I
can show you all that I have the money

1385
01:42:16,719 --> 01:42:24,080
to be able to utilize it. I don't see
why we wouldn't go that route rather

1386
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:28,080
than leasing something. But that would
be a decision for council.

1387
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:33,600
» We'd have to review the impact fees and
I don't I'm not sure that that would

1388
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:37,360
qualify for an expansion or growth of
the service if we're just putting the

1389
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:40,080
same people on a different vehicle.
>> Shannon,

1390
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:43,600
» it's one of those things to where we
haven't actually been utilizing any of

1391
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:47,760
that. So even like the vehicles that
we're purchasing next year, they're

1392
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:51,840
actually additional vehicles because of
the personnel and we've just been

1393
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:57,280
running short.
>> I I would be open to exploring it, but I

1394
01:42:54,960 --> 01:43:02,639
think this is something that back to my
previous comment. I think this should be

1395
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:06,159
a a an ask on your category B for your
27 budget.

1396
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:10,480
» I'll just be honest. If we don't look at
doing it in 26, this will not go into

1397
01:43:08,719 --> 01:43:13,280
27.
I'm just I'm just going to be honest

1398
01:43:11,679 --> 01:43:17,920
with you because as far as what we're
working on the push

1399
01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:21,040
current idea is to stay within our
current numbers and try to provide

1400
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:25,040
raises and everything else. This would
not be something in which I'd be even

1401
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:28,000
able to look at for 27 if we stay within
those parameters.

1402
01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:33,040
So I'm okay with having a little
carryover from 26 if we can do that. And

1403
01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:36,320
that's where, you know, that that would
be my, you know, if I want to call an

1404
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:41,760
argument, that's where I would be
presenting is if we go into 27, then

1405
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:46,080
allow me to have a budget surplus in 26
to put towards it.

1406
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:50,239
» We're only using the confinements of 26,
then I I cannot do that for 27.

1407
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:54,880
» And that would be my next
>> another concern that I have and and you

1408
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:59,119
know my background, so I understand the
roadways are the most dangerous places

1409
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:03,520
that you guys encounter.
>> Absolutely. Um, so you mentioned that

1410
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:07,600
motorcycles are lower visibility
>> for being out and about. Yes.

1411
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:13,199
» That also creates a a bigger hazard too
because they are harder to see. So we're

1412
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:19,679
we're we're increasing potential risk to
officers and then they also lose that

1413
01:44:17,119 --> 01:44:23,840
vehicle protection to be able to work in
front of their vehicle if somebody's

1414
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:28,239
texting and comes off the roadway. And
I'd rather have them hit a Tahoe than a

1415
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:33,119
motorcycle if it's a car between me and
them. Um, so I think I have some

1416
01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:38,960
concerns personally about it. Um, I
would have to be before I would be in

1417
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:41,840
favor of adding motorcycles, I would I
would have to be convinced.

1418
01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:47,199
» What I what I can do is this was just a
a starter for this. What I can do is I

1419
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:50,239
can actually have my staff who is 100%
certified in this come and make a

1420
01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:55,280
presentation if you prefer.
>> I think it would be good to actually

1421
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:59,600
justify the need
in my mind and maybe it's just me. I

1422
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:03,199
don't need any answer by Cody.
>> I'm just trying to get this, you know,

1423
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:07,119
started now. We're going into the last
quarter of the year and which is

1424
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:12,400
something we
look at or need to avoid. You know, if

1425
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:17,760
we can get something firmed up toward
the end of the year since we're going to

1426
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:22,320
depending on if it is a 26 or if I can,
you know, earmark something out of 26 to

1427
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:26,080
be put out, you know, used for some of
these hands in seven, that would be

1428
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:30,400
great.
Can we hear if there's any additional

1429
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:32,800
training cost, insurance increases,
stuff like that?

1430
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:36,880
» Insurance and things, I'd have to get
with municipal on on that. Um, as far as

1431
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:41,280
training costs associated with it, there
would be none because I currently have

1432
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:45,600
the staff to be able to
>> vehicle the vehicle savings would be

1433
01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:51,440
nice because maybe then you can
>> more quickly add officers, but it does

1434
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:53,840
seem like you'd be weather inhibited,
too. Like there's there will be days

1435
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:57,440
where you
>> chips wrote every every day.

1436
01:45:55,520 --> 01:46:00,159
» I don't say chips. That's what I
>> California what I said.

1437
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,159
» Yeah.
>> Chips.

1438
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:12,159
» We're talking about costs and stuff.
What about like gas the difference

1439
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:15,320
between black hole versus uh vehicles?
You have

1440
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:20,639
» savings. It seems like there would be a
savings there.

1441
01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:26,639
» There would be. Um, but I mean you're
also talking trying to do gas mileage on

1442
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:29,639
a police vehicle is kind of a moot
point.

1443
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:35,920
» I'm actually on the new vehicles we're
looking at depending on if GM can fix

1444
01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:39,520
the issue with the 53s or if they're
going to come out with the 57. Um, we're

1445
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:44,159
looking actually going to some of the
fours that have the the hybrid

1446
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:48,800
technology in them for next year. But it
kind of depends on what happens with

1447
01:46:46,239 --> 01:46:51,840
vehicles currently.
But there would be um because you're not

1448
01:46:50,639 --> 01:46:55,440
going to have something sitting there
idling all the time. You're not going to

1449
01:46:53,679 --> 01:46:58,320
have electronic usage and then those
sort of things. Yes, there is a cost

1450
01:46:57,440 --> 01:47:04,080
savings there.
>> I was saying if you know that that might

1451
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:08,000
add that might help some of the
>> talks. Fuel mileage alone is I mean

1452
01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:12,480
going to be a fraction of what it is for
you know a V8 engine. So definitely

1453
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:16,239
appreciate Cody, you know, he's hearing
what the citizens are asking for,

1454
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:20,480
» trying to figure out a way to fit it
into the budget that we'd have to get

1455
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:22,960
more officers on the road.
>> If we didn't have the staff to be able

1456
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:26,400
to utilize this and we had an
overwhelming cost for training and all

1457
01:47:24,719 --> 01:47:29,760
these other things, it wouldn't even be
an option.

1458
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:34,080
Our staff that we have who can utilize
it and who have the training, you know,

1459
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:40,159
something we brought up to to be able to
provide a service to the city. you bring

1460
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:44,000
a proposal to our next council meeting.
>> What I can do is I can actually talk to

1461
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:47,520
the staff and have them come and provide
all the detailed information on it

1462
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:51,119
because I mean I've got an expert on on
on staff who can come and answer all

1463
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:54,719
those questions for you. We just wanted
to open up the lines of communication on

1464
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,719
this right now.
>> Explore it.

1465
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:59,600
» Well, I thinking outside.
>> I think you actually might be listening.

1466
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:04,480
Probably a couple of your officers are
on here. So,

1467
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:07,679
I I can say them. They are.
You can't say it, but I can.

1468
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:11,600
» I think as our city continues to grow,
we need to have conversations about

1469
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:14,560
things that can help us improve what
we're currently doing. So, I appreciate

1470
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:17,760
you bringing that to us and I think it
would be great to have a proposal.

1471
01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:21,760
» If you got a PowerPoint or something,
you want we can

1472
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:24,639
whatever you want to do.
>> We'll get something maybe.

1473
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:28,320
» All right. Thank you.
>> If you open up for any other business, I

1474
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:31,520
wanted to kind of I'm done with you.
Yeah. We're done with

1475
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:35,040
» No, I didn't mean it like that, but we
were done on that. Uh, I want to bring

1476
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:38,480
because Brian had a concern about these
boxes. So, I was

1477
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:42,159
what we just approved.
>> Oh, the Okay. Okay.

1478
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:44,880
» The ordinance that we just passed.
>> Yes.

1479
01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:48,560
» We already have a section in there. It's
12-24-60.

1480
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:53,040
And it says, "If a structure becomes
unsafe, abandoned, or a public nuisance,

1481
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:58,159
the city may provide notice to the
responsible party requiring correction

1482
01:48:55,360 --> 01:49:02,480
within 14 days. Failure to comply may
result in removal by the city. The city

1483
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:07,920
may immediately remove or secure any
structure presenting an enem threat to

1484
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:11,840
public safety. Removal or securing of a
structure pursuant to this section shall

1485
01:49:10,159 --> 01:49:14,400
not create liability on the part of the
city for damage to the structure or it's

1486
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:17,679
caught.
>> Then then ultimately I I think and I

1487
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:21,040
just want you to know that
>> it's been a while since I've reviewed

1488
01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:24,080
it. But ultimately I I think my biggest
concern is we we just need a contact

1489
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,800
person.
>> No, that's fair.

1490
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:30,159
» Move in and out or whatnot. We just want
to have some way. And I think that was

1491
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:35,440
the reason I was thinking of a just some
sort of agreement.

1492
01:49:32,159 --> 01:49:38,159
» Um, which I think I still would
>> have some some of them writing.

1493
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:42,400
» They're complying with it. But that way
>> Yeah. No, I just wanted you to truncate

1494
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,280
or whatnot because they're not an
entity. It didn't sound like it sound

1495
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:49,679
like it was a couple folks that are
working with with with that and we just

1496
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:53,119
» Yeah. I just wanted you to know we had
it something already kind of covered.

1497
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:57,360
It's just All right. So, we have any
other business?

1498
01:49:55,600 --> 01:50:02,159
» Okay. Hey, the only thing I have then is
coffee with the mayor is September 19th

1499
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,159
next. We do have senator day this
Saturday.

1500
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,040
» Starting Friday night, right?
>> Yeah. Starting Friday right here. Have a

1501
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,360
pageant in
>> Saturday.

1502
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:12,880
» Yeah, Friday and Saturday. Want a
pageant plus be a barbecue thing

1503
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:15,520
happening down there at Ace Hardware on
Friday night

1504
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:19,679
» and then Saturday I've got all the
events out there. Uh there is a chance

1505
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:22,880
of rain, but looks like it might be the
afternoon. We're watching that. Our

1506
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:28,080
meteorology staff's watching that,
making sure it's going to be good. But

1507
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:32,480
so far so good. Uh coffee with the mayor
next the following Saturday on 19th over

1508
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:36,880
in the community room. Uh I'll let you
know TJ's going to give us a couple

1509
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:40,239
dates on this work session for uh and
I'll pass it out. We'll we'll see what

1510
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:45,119
we can work out. Also just want to get
on your calendars early. Budget work

1511
01:50:41,679 --> 01:50:48,239
session will be October 27th at 6 PM.
That's the fourth Tuesday. I just want

1512
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:51,440
to give you plenty of heads up and we're
going to do it over at the old city hall

1513
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:54,560
because we're going to be do voting in
here. So we'll go over the old city

1514
01:50:53,199 --> 01:50:59,679
hall. We still have the screens up and
everything so we can still use them over

1515
01:50:56,080 --> 01:51:03,040
there and uh we will have uh I'll I'll
get something for everybody to eat too.

1516
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:08,400
So would that something
>> I got a question I was trying to other

1517
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:11,600
business real quick. Uh community center
something I was thinking is there any

1518
01:51:09,679 --> 01:51:17,280
concerns Loren I know I think it's
county the Lonesome Oak Gun Range is

1519
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:20,719
that going to be what is our
code on that? You know I thought about

1520
01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:22,960
that and I can hear it from where I'm at
but you know I've seen where the

1521
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,880
community center is at. That's something
we haven't ever really talked about.

1522
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:30,080
» There's that gun range right there on
the back side of the property. And so I

1523
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:33,280
ju I just want to put that on radars. I
don't think we've ever brought that up.

1524
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:36,960
» I think those are set up to shoot back
towards the east.

1525
01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:40,800
» They No, absolutely. But I mean just in
general center I want to bring that up.

1526
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:45,920
Um
>> yeah, so many years ago uh that actually

1527
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:49,360
went through county planning and there's
appeals and all that, but they have some

1528
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:52,560
kind of conditional thing with the
county that they can sure shoot between

1529
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:56,719
now.
>> I'm more I'm more so I think as we build

1530
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:59,760
out the community on that back half of
the property because the discussions on

1531
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:05,599
the outside,
>> do we look at possibly fencing

1532
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:08,639
something that provide not just a safety
barrier but something there on the back

1533
01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:10,800
side of the property? Just just want to
mention

1534
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,320
» a bunch of trees back there already.
>> Huh?

1535
01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:15,360
» There's already a bunch of trees back
there. Like a whole bunch

1536
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:17,920
» a tree. But I mean
>> it sound

1537
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:20,960
» just suggesting Justin to look at it
because there's a gun flare.

1538
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:28,000
» So it's not going to do much to that.
>> No, but I mean I just something about

1539
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:31,000
» you listen to last weekend it was
>> season

1540
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:38,320
was knocking on his window.
>> Uh that was one question. Other thing we

1541
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:44,000
asked on the water bill last month's
meeting possibly to utilize some of the

1542
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:45,679
verbiage on the bill for our centerton
uh

1543
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,159
» my center app
>> my center app and things like that.

1544
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:51,280
Where are we at on that?
>> You also asked for a QR code.

1545
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:55,040
» Yeah.
>> I'll let the water commissioner

1546
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:58,560
» and I sent over some examples and I know
that was actually a request from a

1547
01:52:56,239 --> 01:53:02,800
citizen in that meeting.
So trying to see what we're conversation

1548
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:08,480
with staff is that they're appreciating
it and working with the folks you

1549
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:11,840
assemble the bill.
>> So that's how it works.

1550
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:14,880
» I think before the end of the year you
should be able to see that they're just

1551
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:18,880
getting the logistics worked out.
>> So the understand last month though was

1552
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:21,280
we probably missed that bill. It
shouldn't be hard to put on the next

1553
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:24,239
one. So I don't think there should be
because we know there's a ton more

1554
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:29,599
characters on this one.
It should be like the October bill

1555
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:33,520
assembly the update. So I have not
spoken with Malcolm directly about it. I

1556
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:37,199
just know that
it

1557
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:42,000
» and then the third one I had was chamber
of commerce. Is there two Facebook pages

1558
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:45,119
out there Josie?
>> No.

1559
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:46,880
» There's like a center area chamber.
>> No, that's an old one that they don't

1560
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:51,520
have control.
>> Like how do we get that pulled down?

1561
01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:54,639
» That's chamber. We can
>> there's a centeron area chamber of

1562
01:53:52,719 --> 01:54:00,000
commerce and a centeron chamber of
commerce and like I realize I have been

1563
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:05,040
following the wrong one for a year and a
half and there's another one and so how

1564
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:09,040
do we
>> who owns that page?

1565
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:13,520
» You should be able to see the
>> that I don't see that on that.

1566
01:54:11,199 --> 01:54:16,800
» I have no idea
since 16. So

1567
01:54:15,199 --> 01:54:20,239
» that's what I'm saying. No, no, it's
it's since then. It's last year.

1568
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:24,320
» I don't think so. So, how do we get that
pulled down

1569
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:27,520
» Facebook?
I don't know.

1570
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:33,040
» We can't push for our own city.
>> I I can send a request, but

1571
01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:35,840
» I don't know. I don't have any control
over Facebook. You send a request.

1572
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,840
» I did.
>> I think somebody tried that already.

1573
01:54:37,599 --> 01:54:43,119
» Try that. Yes.
>> All right.

1574
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:46,749
» That's all address again.
>> You try to do that.

1575
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:50,080
» We got a motion to adjourn by Wendy.
[laughter]

1576
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:53,360
» All right. We got a second.
>> Second. Anybody else want to go home?

1577
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:57,840
» All right. All in favor?
>> Anyone opposed? I would be stopped

1578
01:54:55,119 --> 01:54:57,840
recording.