[0:00] 6:30 someone to call the meeting to
order and Ro Hall Commission elire here
[0:06] commissioner mayor commissioner bar here
commissioner Hughes commissioner Borman
[0:12] yes commissioner Hoffman here
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[0:24] Bagley pledge aliance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the for
[0:35] stands
indivisible and justice for
[0:41] all the first item on the agenda is
review and approval of PR meeting
[0:46] minutes this would be the minutes um
attached to your packet from 6:13 does
[0:51] anyone have
any um thing to discuss regarding the pr
[0:58] minutes
we have
[1:06] a all those in
favor all those
[1:11] opposed all right that brings us to the
um action part of the agenda and this is
[1:19] the public hearing piece regarding the
request for vbo uh property at 222
[1:24] Denton and I will open the public
hearing piece of the
[1:30] meetings so at this time we have if
anybody from the public would like to
[1:34] have anything to say if you would stand
and state your address and your name
[1:38] before speaking um and then you'll have
your opportunity to speak so that's open
[1:42] at this time can I talk about something
other than the
[1:46] vbo or should I wait I think we should
start with a vbo piece of it and let's
[1:52] get through that and we we'll see what
where it
[1:55] goes hi yes ma'am I am Kelly Conor 222
Den street that is my
[2:02] resident and I just want to say that the
reason for the vbo is that I do travel a
[2:08] lot and in traveling a lot I have family
here which is I have two daughters and
[2:14] two
son-in-laws Aubrey and Eli are from
[2:19] Calia root here children that go to
school here I've been involved in things
[2:24] here um my other son and daughter they
in Paulsville all of which are very
[2:30] close in the event that something does
occur if I am out of town um the other
[2:35] thing is that I've had the privilege of
staying at thr rollin's house the sne
[2:39] house seeing sisters for and I am
familiar with Betty and some of the
[2:44] others that are in the community and um
I love centrea I've um been coming here
[2:50] for the past seven
years and um the the community itself it
[2:56] seems to be a very tight k tight-knit
Community and a very caring Community
[3:02] the the owners of the
different facilities or stores within
[3:07] the square and that I've come across
everybody has always been very friendly
[3:10] and very welcoming and it's nice to see
that the community is
[3:14] growing um and it does seem even with
Hubble and the different Honeywell the
[3:20] things that are around much less all of
the colleges that are
[3:24] here that um the need is there for the
additional space to say um it is a four
[3:32] bedroom house and I'm doing my very best
since I've been here I put a roof on the
[3:38] house we've done new Landscaping to the
house um the inside is furnished very
[3:45] nicely and modestly so that it's
comfortable but for us when we're here
[3:49] but also for anybody that may come in
it's family friendly and it's child
[3:54] friendly um the fence the yard is
gated um and I think it would be I think
[4:00] it would be a lovely addition it's not a
matter of it's uh the intention is not
[4:04] for it to disrupt the community or
disrupt the block there are a lot of
[4:08] children on the
Block so whatever is you know whatever
[4:12] is required of the city I'd be glad to
um you know if you need documents or
[4:16] present anything I'd be happy to do that
all right thank you
[4:21] um did we have anyone else to speak
regarding the
[4:27] vbo yes ma'am um I just got to meet
Kelly I readed tashy at
[4:34] 217 so I'm just kind of this way from
her my main concern when I got the
[4:42] letter that it was going in was now are
are we going to have to give up our nice
[4:47] quiet
neighborhood are our children going to
[4:50] be at risk that run up and down the
streets and and
[4:58] um is there some kind of condition
people have to have to go and stay in
[5:04] there and then on the other hand I think
well I have friends that come to visit
[5:11] people at
Sunnydale and they might like a place to
[5:16] stay
and so I don't I'm not either yay or nay
[5:22] I just kind of wanted some answers
inform to what to expect okay cuz I
[5:28] really never never
by
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a whatever and actually I've never heard
[5:37] of one before and but I've never lived
by that to see what kind
[5:44] of in and out traffic comes
so uh since I've gotten more information
[5:53] I'm getting excited about it and happy
for Kelly if she can find
[6:00] to stay in there and and give her a
little extra money on the side
[6:07] there well thank
you anyone else regarding the
[6:13] drbo so I did receive two phone calls um
they were just concerned about the the
[6:21] In-N-Out traffic what it would do to the
neighborhood basically what what Rita
[6:24] said and Kelly kind of addressed there
um but that was that just concerns and
[6:30] asking questions on what a vbo is and
that sort of thing okay well if there's
[6:37] and your your thing is not related to
this at all okay so I'm going to keep it
[6:42] completely separate um so with nobody
else regarding the vbo what I'm do is
[6:47] I'll close the public hearing piece of
it I'll bring it back to um the
[6:53] commission the board we are sorry it's
been a long day um to have any questions
[6:59] for you and and I'll actually I'll
actually start that first to address
[7:04] some of the concerns that I know that
you have um we do have a very detailed
[7:10] um
um ordinance or code thank you code
[7:16] regarding VBS that we put in when Betty
uh came to us a couple years ago and
[7:21] requested to put in the roll Street
house and IT addresses most I think
[7:25] everything that you're concerned about
as far as having to detail out what's
[7:29] expected of a of a renter or somebody
that would be coming into that um they
[7:34] have to sign an agreement when they rent
these properties they have to adhere to
[7:38] those agreements as part of that and I
think that you addressed that um well
[7:44] with your son-in-laws and your family
that are here close by is that the owner
[7:49] of the house has to have somebody to be
able to respond within 25 minutes should
[7:53] something occur that become a nuisance I
think the last thing that anybody wants
[7:59] to have have happened is to disrupt the
family quiet neighborhood or or put
[8:03] Children at Risk and I don't think that
we've had any incidents with the ones
[8:06] that we've had so far that I know of um
so just on my behalf of of stating to
[8:12] Tri to address your concerns I think
that we've well detailed that out in our
[8:16] our current code so um does anybody have
any questions
[8:21] regarding the the request for the Dr
from our go ahead well uh since
[8:28] we in the past I was pres for one of
them I don't know the street it was an
[8:35] R2 it
was okay um Rollins was R1 sne Street
[8:42] R2 Airbnb is a company Vero is a company
that's not a defined type of housing
[8:51] they have a contract with you and then
the proposed tenants have a contract
[8:57] with them also or with you
the cont the contract is with me but
[9:04] part of having BRBO or Airbnb if you use
it that way is it also vets people a lot
[9:10] of the people that come through there um
at even as someone if they come into
[9:15] your home if they come in there to rent
it they get rated as well as somebody
[9:20] that stays there they are rated as a as
a bad person so everybody that's on vvo
[9:26] that has a property whether it's good or
bad able to put a comment on there also
[9:31] so if they go somewhere else that it can
be you know they they're there are
[9:36] things to protect the people in place
whether it's you as the owner of the
[9:41] property with a lease with even like you
said even with Betty when I rented my
[9:46] initial with Betty and continued with
her for a little bit I had to sign a
[9:51] paper with
her so primarily it's going to be with
[9:56] me right as the police department or to
your knowledge either the property
[10:03] owners of the other properties had that
they W able to deal with been any
[10:10] complaints from the citizens about these
not that I'm aware of from the existing
[10:13] ones that we have yes I don't I don't
think we've heard anything
[10:18] um in the in the aspect of anything
happened or any problems have been
[10:24] brought to our attention I don't if
anybody else is or
[10:27] anything I mean I know
Betty was happy enough with it she's
[10:31] doing a second one right
so I mean I myself I use VB quite
[10:37] extensively so I'm familiar with what
you have to sign to be able to rent one
[10:41] of these properties
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[10:45] and like
41 is that Chris yeah and I can I mean I
[10:51] personally can say that when you go in
to rent one of these you're making an
[10:56] investment so most
people here
[11:02] from joining Chris's party so most
people that are going to rent one of
[11:08] these properties they have to put down
us you know they're putting down quite a
[11:12] bit of money ahead of time and then
they're investing into this so it's not
[11:18] it's not something that's not very well
detailed out just from my experience so
[11:22] for what it's worth I mean I've never
had a I've never been able to rent a
[11:27] property that didn't require quite a
commitment you mention the current owner
[11:36] is looking at having a second operation
that means there's a public demand for
[11:41] these facilities in town seems to be we
got three we have three right now and I
[11:46] I would imagine that if Betty had put
the first she put in Rollin Street and
[11:49] then she's putting in that second one
and I can imagine if she didn't have the
[11:52] demand she would probably not make that
investment no bet but that's my opinion
[11:57] me sorry I'm auy I live at 320 southman
um I'm her daughter her middle daughter
[12:03] um when like she brought this idea to us
especially with like my sister and us
[12:09] living pretty close by and local like
we're just three blocks over I've talked
[12:15] to friends I'm friends with people here
and they a lot of people have said even
[12:20] people in Columbia they're like that'd
be great for like I know it's not close
[12:24] to like mou games and stuff but you run
out of places to stay where it's close
[12:30] enough to get back and forth and then
also with second Saturdays like blowing
[12:35] up and now Allen Street social is doing
like brunches and they're open on
[12:39] Sundays and things like that since like
the community is picking up I've had
[12:44] multiple people tell me or even as sad
as like people coming into town last
[12:49] minute for funerals and not having to
drive from Colombia or Mexico or
[12:55] Mobberly and being local for the
visitations and in the dinners and
[12:59] things like that a lot of people have
broughten those uh things up to me
[13:04] they're like actually that's a really
good idea sellia already has three they
[13:08] fill up so fast like Betty was telling
me with deer season she's been booked up
[13:13] for you know a month in advance and
stuff like that and weddings and
[13:17] graduations so I mean I've noticed and
heard that there's like a demand for
[13:22] these things I mean I also I mean I
personally know
[13:27] of from my own experience I know
somebody in the community that's an
[13:32] older person and their family when they
come to visit will will rent out and
[13:36] every they bring their family and their
kids and they don't have enough space to
[13:40] stay with you know their mother so they
rent things out to stay local and be
[13:45] able to do things around the holidays so
and just on occasion so I do know those
[13:50] instances it also kind of creates the
demand for these and the kind ofunity
[13:53] kind of like this where you have that um
that situation probably quite frequently
[13:58] with no tells there's no place to say
you received the application
[14:07] mhm we did all the advertising and signs
and the yards and everything with no
[14:13] complications but all the correct time
frame and I recommend that you keep a
[14:20] copy from the newspaper to put in the
file on
[14:23] this so uh all the technical parts of
this have been de boxed just checked
[14:32] right okay they still need to go through
and actually get a business license for
[14:37] this if we prove
it okay um yeah there's a short there's
[14:44] a onetime short-term rental application
and then each year after that um that's
[14:51] just the business
license and if they do it now they get
[14:55] to pay now and again in January
[15:06] yeah anybody else have anything I think
it feels a a big need in
[15:12] town
[15:15] hotels I think it does too personally
I'm I'm I'm always a fan of thebo but I
[15:20] use them so it
feel um I'm somewhat concerned stayed
[15:27] one last night
[15:30] I have a need for one for or four days
myself person just while stuff on the
[15:38] house yeah that's a good point too I
don't if you heard what Chris was saying
[15:42] was that he himself could use it you
know while he's gotten he's getting
[15:47] stuff worked on his house you could stay
at a you
[15:50] know a rental here in town on a
short-term basis in order to fill that
[15:54] need
so my my biggest concern is R1 uh that
[16:00] single family residential now you turn
it into a it's more than just a uh a
[16:07] lease where you're leasing out a house
to somebody for a year or so it's short
[16:11] term you rapid
turnover I have some concerns about that
[16:15] I don't really have any concerns at all
in R2 and R3 but R1 people who buy in a
[16:21] residential neighborhood they buy
because it's basically over occupied
[16:31] my my statement to that would be if you
had an owner that occupied the house all
[16:35] the time these places AR all the time as
much traffic or more traffic well I
[16:40] understand Ian so it's not going to
create a whole lot more
[16:47] traffic and don't we already have one in
R1 the Rollin street is R1 is R1 so we
[16:53] already have kind of a precedence there
where we've already allowed it in
[16:57] R1 and is allowed as a conditional use
in
[17:00] R1 yes
that's decision made the standard is
[17:06] been set
now I believe that the contract requires
[17:11] the maintenance on the
facility to be hel to a higher standard
[17:16] than anything The Government Can require
own Association probably but the city
[17:23] can't come up to the same standards of
pay
[17:31] Contra is that your understanding yes
there is I have the if I'm not here then
[17:39] my daughters and their husbands they do
between the cleaning we have a what is
[17:45] the
ozone like an ozone machine that you
[17:49] clear the air out and stuff after
somebody leaves the ozone machine goes
[17:53] into each room for a certain period of
time to clear the air out the and then
[17:58] they're cleaned thoroughly and I mean
you could all leave here and go over
[18:03] there now and you would walk in and go
oh okay because it it's clean thoroughly
[18:08] I've went through it and um made sure
that everything is done in it um showers
[18:16] are reced that everything everything
that's necessary is there and yes it is
[18:20] held to a little bit of a higher
standard um because people will will rat
[18:26] you out if you are a a bad person as far
as a a owner or
[18:33] VRBO um rep they will go on there and
they will say this
[18:38] place they will let you know anything
and everything about it I I can tell you
[18:44] I've had I did have one bad experience
in renting the place and um we called
[18:49] the company we called the person we
rented it from and they moved us that
[18:53] very next morning and found a different
place for us to stay and the person that
[18:58] was
the owner of that property was removed
[19:01] from being able to rent their property
through them any longer so these
[19:06] companies do hold them to a pretty high
standard because it's their business too
[19:10] I mean they're they're Gathering fees
off of this as well and you know they
[19:14] get a bad rep then Susan what you said
earlier though about with VRBO and the
[19:19] fees the fees are a little crazy but I
believe that that also that also
[19:25] protects the owners of the property from
people who come in you're not going to
[19:30] tear up the property with the amount of
money that you're paying the rbo in
[19:35] these different fees forget the taxes
but the other fees that you're paying
[19:40] you're not going to tear up their
property it's not that type of a I don't
[19:43] know if you want to say clientele or
people
[19:47] or yeah demographic it's it's not that
type of type of um
[19:55] thing this I looked at the neighborhood
there
[20:00] are I particulars but there are some
houses that I don't know whether the
[20:06] rentals or owner
occupied they aren't nearly as good
[20:10] they're looking at the property that's
there don't look at my next door
[20:18] neighbor
[20:22] so there's no guarantees no matter how
you treat property I understand H's
[20:29] concern but we the board at the time
that this was adopted decid that it was
[20:36] potentially possible to have one of
these in any Zone
[20:43] yeah I still I mean I mean the damage I
mean to me I mean significant damage
[20:49] risk is actually more on the side of the
owner I mean they're taking on that risk
[20:54] of somebody coming in and creating
damage but I also kind of I mean I know
[20:59] it sounds like I'm advocating for this
but I like I I feel like it's been
[21:03] successful for what we've done so my
opinion is is that I don't think that
[21:08] we're the type of community that you're
going to see a you know bunch
[21:12] of people that want to come here and
have some wild and crazy party in the
[21:16] middle of Calia yeah like it's not like
colia where you have missou and stens
[21:22] you risk that more in the Columbia area
probably so but um How likely are how
[21:28] easy is it to change these rules if it
[21:32] doesn't for
[21:36] everybody think we have to have a
meeting about
[21:39] it if you wanted to pass new rules you'd
have to either have an ordinance to
[21:44] adopt those rules and or an ordinance to
say
[21:48] that sta May develop from time to time
rules that apply but You' have to have
[21:55] basically Amendment and some sort to
there is there any ordinance and public
[21:59] hearing for that and then an ordinance
passed by because I've read that
[22:04] Columbia has had some problems that they
have Revisited their policies what
[22:07] they're going to allow so I and I
suspect that we're not going to have
[22:12] some of the problems that clumpy does
that's why I asked whether there have
[22:16] been any Police Department or
neighborhood concerns
[22:23] reported I've heard nothing I think
we'll have less trouble with this than
[22:27] just a general REM
[22:34] um my observation is that as long as you
have
[22:41] isolated rentals like this or BNB
airbnbs you're probably not dealing with
[22:47] the same concern as if you had a whole
neighborhood nothing but
[22:56] rentals I I think there's a couple of
points here first of all they don't keep
[23:01] their properties up they don't keep
their high ratings it's a business they
[23:04] they won't be in business because people
not right people discriminating plac I
[23:10] stayed last night I
between that they were all five star and
[23:15] they all were super hose that's what I
look for and so the cim and all that
[23:19] goes into effect and if we start to have
any problems uh remotely like Columbia
[23:24] does we need to address those correctly
a city in general period and we would
[23:30] just have to make an amendment to
approach anything that uh gets out of PL
[23:35] but I I really think these things police
themselves very well because of the
[23:39] clientele people that come to these
places to stay plus you also have to
[23:43] have a credit card just like you have to
have a hotel that's reable because if
[23:46] you tear the place up they got your
credit card and you're going to fix
[23:50] everything that you tear up so I mean
bottom line is I think there's a lot of
[23:53] safety precautions in place uh to
protect the residential area or I
[23:58] wouldn't be afford all at all you know
at all myself so I don't think that's a
[24:02] real big risk but likeu anything you
have to keep an eye on it because it
[24:06] could at any time somebody could run it
for for for the owner probably not not
[24:11] all of them but for the
owner they have
[24:19] to I would like sorry firstr I would
like to point out too one other thing
[24:25] that when you when you do go through and
rent one of these you rent based off of
[24:29] capacity so it's a four-bedroom home I'm
guessing you're probably at a a six
[24:35] maybe depending on the size of the rooms
maybe 8 person capacity Max and any
[24:41] violation of that would be a violation
of the agreement so it clearly states in
[24:45] there that there's a maximum number of
allowed guests um so when you're going
[24:50] through so huh the ordinance has a limit
too two for bedroom yeah so that's what
[24:56] I'm saying 6 to8 probably for this
property with the four B and that's what
[24:59] it's set up for yeah so um I just wanted
to point that out as a as an additional
[25:06] I think you know safety measure in not
having you know risking having a 20 part
[25:13] person party show up for a four
bedroomroom house in our town and as the
[25:17] owner you also have to I mean I do I
brought it but my homeowners insurance
[25:23] which has been increased to cover you
know to cover this type of thing um as
[25:30] well as the other part of it is that the
people coming in town and staying
[25:35] locally it is going to bring some
Revenue additional Revenue to the to
[25:40] Calia and you know some people come in
who may never have been here before and
[25:44] there may be others who come back and go
wow the town is really starting to grow
[25:48] and it's becoming you know it's really
up it's starting to be an upcoming place
[25:52] to be and just a visit and it it truly
is like a little Hallmark Town track
[25:57] parade with all the stuff that goes on
through the it is it is it's a great
[26:02] place to have a family and be it is and
and honestly we don't really have places
[26:06] for people to stay so this is with in
light of having a hotel this is what we'
[26:10] got so it's my
[26:14] opinion anything
else all right so I can open this to
[26:19] vote whether we're all those in favor of
the sorry what i' like it I recommend
[26:27] that you have a little longer than just
a y or vote okay because this becomes
[26:33] the basis if anybody has a a valid
objection of the
[26:39] ordinance U so I move that the Planning
and Zoning commission finds that the
[26:45] applicant has submitted a valid
application and the staff has fulfilled
[26:52] all of the requirements for advertising
in public notice based on Tony here and
[26:59] that based on that plus the questions
and answers of tonight's public hearing
[27:06] that the commission votes to approve a
conditional use permit as a short-term
[27:12] rental for that property I needed the
motion anyway I did Rush that they can
[27:18] play it back are
we
[27:23] abely told you it's been a
while so do we have so that's your
[27:28] motion that's my motion good luck with
that I didn't write it all
[27:32] down you wanted to you
got can you repeat
[27:38] that she missed most so all those in
favor of the
[27:44] motion as it was stated by
[27:49] Len yes I I oppose to the
motion I I'll vote in favor I still have
[27:58] some concerns I do think it's something
that we'll need to keep an eye on but
[28:03] I'll vote in
favor okay
[28:07] so at this point in time the motion
passes motion passes
[28:13] now before midnight or whenever anybody
present still objects to the granting of
[28:21] this condition of use permit there's a
very brief petition that can be signed
[28:28] as a formal written
objection and in that
[28:33] case our motion is null and void and if
the owner wants to pursue the matter
[28:41] needs to go to board of adjustment which
is
[28:46] a similar but more complicated and
detailed
[28:55] process it's never happened but I was
say not just for this any I'm saying
[29:04] I've this while remember that ever
happened to so I think there was one
[29:08] where somebody objected and they went
and they kind the person objecting went
[29:13] and uh
basically
[29:17] did an agreement on principles and was
willing to withdraw their objection so
[29:24] that the motion would stand
[29:31] that's what happens in small
times so so we have a pass motion so
[29:38] this concludes
the public hearing and the item five on
[29:44] the agenda for the VB vbo property at
222 and how do we want to handle like so
[29:52] we have as may rise coming up we can um
allow I allow that during that okay so
[29:57] the next item on the agenda is as May or
I so you can bring forward
[30:01] your
your item Lind Bor at 800 Jason Court
[30:08] yes um I would like to see this board do
an ordinance or regulation I don't know
[30:16] how what it would need for when somebody
builds a new house in any part of town
[30:22] that they put a sidewalk
in there's a whole section in the
[30:27] Northwest part of this town north of the
railroad tracks there's been I counted
[30:34] them up today five new either duplexes
or houses built and not a single
[30:41] sidewalk is on any of it and about four
of them were all built at the same time
[30:47] and should have had sidewalks built so I
would like it to make some sort of a
[30:53] rule whatever it needs to be that
anytime a house is built built sidewalks
[30:58] have to be built if it's in an area that
we've never had sidewalks right across
[31:04] the street from her there's a sidewalk
but in her whole side there north of the
[31:09] electric building there is not a single
sidewalk with old older dwellings there
[31:16] also though no there's no well Doug
Brown owns two of them but then Darren
[31:23] bought a bunch of property or somebody
did and built four houses
[31:27] and then there's the two duplexes and
then the two little houses that Crockers
[31:32] built sorry I'm nameing names and then
somebody else owns a duplex to the south
[31:36] of and those have all been built
probably in five six years maybe 10 on a
[31:42] couple of them at the most but not a
single sidewalk was put in on on North
[31:50] Columbia
and okay they were there so we didn't
[31:55] there may not have been but
there is an adopted City policy by
[32:00] resolution govering sidewalks for new
subdivisions your concern is address
[32:05] because yes they have to they have to Wi
those and they need to have them in
[32:11] place by a certain time by the time they
get their certificate of occum right
[32:15] correct but I mean I'm just talking you
know we've got houses popping up all
[32:21] over town where people I mean I don't
know if the one cost from uses and if
[32:25] they they put in a new sidewalk did they
but there are others that have not and
[32:29] when we did ours I think we just Lo out
the sidewalk was getting replaced at
[32:32] well you had an existing sidewalk so
yeah I think I think that's the issue is
[32:37] that some of the newer homes are bued up
to older homes who didn't have those
[32:42] same type of regulations so you can make
somebody put in a sidewalk at new
[32:46] construction and then they're going to
stop and walk across the grass where the
[32:50] older home is I think that's part of the
issue that that may well be but at some
[32:56] time hopefully y those houses and I know
I'm talking 20 30 years down the road
[33:01] you know that houses those older houses
will be replaced but those five four
[33:07] that they put on F and Wilder and on
north of that those were all put in at
[33:13] the same time and there's no reason why
they weren't sidewalked price but that's
[33:19] beside the point price is included in
all the other subdivisions when it comes
[33:24] to sidewalks and another one is the
houses over here on brutin they built
[33:29] two brand new houses the one there was
an old sidewalk there and one was not
[33:34] put back in the other they put a
sidewalk on the one side but not on the
[33:39] other and in a subdivision you put in
both sidewalks if you're on a corner
[33:45] irregardless that's something I
recommend I mean it's just something I
[33:49] want you to look at I mean there's never
going to be sidewalks put in over there
[33:54] yeah say I if I have to walk door to
door knock on somebody's door and say
[33:58] Hey you have to put a sidewalk in I want
you to stand next to me so that way
[34:03] there's two of us not one I'm saying in
the future man I'm talking about in the
[34:13] future we need to have something place
when you're building house
[34:17] putw yeah yeah I mean that's that's all
I'm ask cuz our daughter lives over
[34:23] there and she doesn't have a
sidewalk
[34:31] right if there's no sidewalk on that
entire Street there's no reason to put
[34:35] it on one house because it will never go
anywhere there's absolutely no reason
[34:41] make a house put a sidewalk one one
house there's y we'll take a look at it
[34:48] I mean it's just something to look at
yep all right so we'll take that up with
[34:52] Council you guys remind them I guess
there are several documents that say
[34:58] it's the aspiration of the city to get
all sidewalks to place we have an 8 plan
[35:05] I don't know where is at that says we
have that as a goal uh it was
[35:12] included basically
in U resolutions to clearing the major
[35:19] streets that we were going to start
building at cing Gutter and
[35:23] sidewalk uh don't think we got very far
down that before we ran into schools and
[35:29] a couple other things that need the
sidewalks
[35:32] more I mean if you
don't you know it won't happen right I
[35:39] have a question who pays for that does
does a homeowner or the city right right
[35:45] now the homeowner has to two State
Standards even if it crosses driveway
[35:52] then it's going to be even sicker um or
the develop
[35:57] in a new subdivision which then still is
a property owner when they buy the house
[36:03] it's in the
price so ultimately it's p the house
[36:08] you're going to pay for it I mean like
over there where you guys live that's
[36:11] never going to get C and gutter for so
we're all long
[36:15] gone still and it might not be still and
she does I check there's four parking
[36:22] places there so even if she has eight
people there and however many ours so
[36:28] she's I checked that
today all right then so um
[36:35] you're I your issue has been noted and
I'm sure that they will fall up on it so
[36:41] is there anything else for the asme
section of this anybody else have
[36:44] anything they like to bring bring
something up what that we discussed
[36:47] several things with the uh subdivision
regulations the last uh that were in our
[36:52] minutes from last time where are we with
those we're in discussions with one of
[36:58] our on call engineers and they're
assisting us with it and I'll be
[37:02] bringing it back to the planning Zing
commission to look at when I car
[37:06] from
it does anybody have anything
[37:11] else this brings us to item seven which
is the adjournment of this meeting do we
[37:15] have a motion to adjourn I make a motion
we adjourn we have a second second all
[37:20] those in favor of a journey I all
anybody not in favor of a journey
[37:27] all right thank you
all