1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,160 All right, folks. Thanks for joining us. Uh 6:00, go ahead and call this meeting 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,160 to order. Can we get a roll call? 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,000 » Commissioner Global >> here. 4 00:00:11,599 --> 00:00:16,400 » Commissioner Jamu absent. Commissioner Morales 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,320 » present. >> Commissioner Perez 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,279 » here. >> Chairperson Cond 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,439 » here. Uh can you join me in the pledge of allegiance? 8 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:51,200 All right. Citizens communication. While the series planning commission uh 9 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,879 welcomes and encourages participation in planning commission meetings, adopted 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:59,120 rules allow no more than 5 minutes for expression of non-aggenda items. Matters 11 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:03,760 under the jurisdiction of the planning commission and not on the posted agenda 12 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,799 may be addressed but by by the general public. However, California law 13 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:11,439 prohibits the planning commission from taking action on any matter which is not 14 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,960 on the posted agenda unless it is determined to be an emergency by the 15 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:19,040 planning commission. Citizens are entitled to address the planning 16 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,880 commission on any agenda item subject to the fiveminute provision. Is there 17 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:27,680 anyone tonight that would like to make public comment on an item not on the 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:34,159 agenda? Seeing none, anybody on Zoom? 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:38,640 » No hands raised on Zoom. Okay, go ahead and close citizens communication. Moving 20 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:41,920 on. Conflict of interest. Is there anyone on the planning commission that 21 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:48,240 would like to declare a conflict of interest? Seeing none. Moving on to the 22 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:52,159 consent calendar. All matters listed on the consent calendar considered routine 23 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:56,399 in nature and will be enacted upon by a single motion unless it is otherwise 24 00:01:54,159 --> 00:02:00,240 requested by a commissioner or the public for special consideration. 25 00:01:58,479 --> 00:02:04,880 Otherwise, the recommendation of staff will be to accept and act upon by roll 26 00:02:03,119 --> 00:02:09,200 call vote. Is there anyone on the commission that would like to pull an 27 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:15,360 item uh for further discussion? >> Um staff would uh like to request that 28 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:22,080 we move item Excuse me. So, item six. 29 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:28,640 Item six um from public hearing to um unfinished business. 30 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:35,640 We need a a motion in a second. Does that operate the same or what's the 31 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,640 reasoning for that? 32 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,959 » Tom, do you want to >> Sure. It it'll operate the same. There's 33 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:47,760 no need for a public hearing on that. Uh it looks like it was just misplaced on 34 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:51,120 the agenda. >> Okay. And action can still be taken on 35 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:55,280 that item. Correct. >> That's correct. 36 00:02:52,319 --> 00:03:02,400 » Okay. Um, I'll go ahead and motion to move item six to You said unfinished 37 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:05,920 business to unfinished business. >> I'll second. 38 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,920 » I got a first and a second. Got a roll call. 39 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,760 » Commissioner Global. >> I, 40 00:03:11,519 --> 00:03:16,159 » Commissioner Jamu. >> Commissioner Morales. 41 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,360 » Hi, >> Commissioner Perez. 42 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:27,080 Chairperson Cond. >> Hi. Okay. Anybody from the public that 43 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:27,080 would like an item from consent pulled? 44 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Seeing none, I'll bring it back to commission and I'll make a motion on 45 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:35,560 items 1 through 4 46 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,080 » with the um the green sheet for the minutes. 47 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:47,599 » Yeah, with the corrected green sheet on the minutes. 48 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:51,760 » I'll second that. Okay, we got a first and a second. We got a roll call. 49 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,159 Commissioner Global. >> Hi. 50 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,879 » Commissioner Morales. >> Hi. 51 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:03,840 » Commissioner Perez. Chairperson Cond. 52 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:09,439 » Hi. >> All right. Um, moving on to public 53 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:14,120 hearing item number five. Turn it over to staff. I believe Miss George. 54 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:43,919 All right. Good evening, chair and commissioners. Tonight's item is a 55 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:49,919 request for approval of a second 10-year extension for conditional use permit 56 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:54,639 number 0635, which would allow the continued operation of an existing 57 00:04:52,400 --> 00:05:00,720 wireless communications facility, which is a cell tower located at 1331 Angie 58 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:05,040 Avenue. This request does not involve any expansion, modifications, or 59 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:09,759 operational changes to the existing facility and is solely intended to allow 60 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:14,720 the facility to continue operating for an additional 10-year term. 61 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:20,000 So, the reason that it's coming back for commission action to renew the lease or 62 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:24,160 the the term of its operation is because there was a condition in the original 63 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:30,639 use permit that it would be good for 10 years and um subject to renewal every 10 64 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,639 years. 65 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:37,120 Next slide. Thank you. So, as mentioned, the applicant is requesting an approval 66 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:42,160 of a 10-year extension of the conditional use permit. 67 00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:46,000 The request is limited to extending the expiration date of the permit and does 68 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:50,479 not include any modifications to the approved tower, equipment, site layout, 69 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:55,600 or operations. So, if approved, the permit would remain effective through 70 00:05:52,160 --> 00:06:01,199 September 19th, 2036. The current expiration is September 19th, so of 71 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:09,440 2026. So the extension would go start on September 19th and run through 2036. 72 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:14,319 Next slide. Existing project site. The project site 73 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:18,560 is located at 1331 Angie Avenue. It's kind of shown on your screen there and 74 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:23,440 also within your staff report. It is within the Mitchell Road corridor area 75 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:27,039 of the city. The site consists of approximately 1 acre and is already 76 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,039 developed with the wireless communications facility and all of the 77 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:35,440 associated equipment. The surrounding area is predominantly industrial and the 78 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,479 facility has operated at this location for nearly 20 years. 79 00:06:40,479 --> 00:06:47,919 So, a little bit of history. Conditional use permit number 0635 was originally 80 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:53,280 approved by the planning commissioner in September of 2006. 81 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:59,039 The approval authorized construction and operation of an 82 foot 4-inch monopole 82 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:03,039 wireless communications facility. And then in 2016, the planning commission 83 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:08,639 approved a 10-year extension of the permit, extending its expiration date 84 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:14,680 through September 19th, 2026. The current request represents the 85 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,680 second extension for the facility. 86 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,280 So for land use and zoning, the property carries a light industrial general plan 87 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:27,599 designation. When the original permit was approved in 2006, the planning 88 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:31,919 commission determined the facility was consistent with the general plan and 89 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:36,479 compatible with surrounding land uses. Because no changes are proposed to the 90 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:41,280 facility or its operation, staff finds that the project remains consistent with 91 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:44,520 the city's general plan. Next slide. 92 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:51,759 The project site is located within the industrial park zoning district and is 93 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:56,319 governed by the Mitchell Road corridor specific plan. The planning commission 94 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:00,960 previously determined that the facility was compatible with the purposes of the 95 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:05,840 district when approving the permit in 2006 and reaffirmed those findings 96 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:09,199 during the 2016 extension. Again, because no modifications are proposed, 97 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:15,319 staff finds that the facility does remain consistent with the zoning 98 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,319 designation and the specific plan. 99 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:24,960 The facility remains operational and is in compliance with its existing 100 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:28,479 approval. Staff is not aware of any code enforcement actions, operational 101 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,560 concerns, or compliance issues associated with the facility. The 102 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:39,159 applicant is requesting only the ability to continue operating the existing 103 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,159 approved use for an additional 10 years. 104 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:48,720 Staff did evaluate the request in light of existing conditions on the site and 105 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:52,480 the surrounding area. Again, since the facility has operated for approximately 106 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:56,160 20 years without issue and no changes are proposed to the approved project, 107 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,080 staff finds that the site remains adequate to support the use and that 108 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:04,000 continued operation of the facility will not adversely affect surrounding 109 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:07,000 properties or public health, safety or welfare. 110 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,519 For the environmental review, staff evaluated the request pursuant to SQUA 111 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:20,720 and determined that the project does remain categorically exempt under SQA 112 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:25,519 guidelines section 15301 existing facilities. The request authorizes only 113 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:32,519 continued operation and does not involve any kind of expansion, modification, or 114 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,519 intensification of the approved use. 115 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Staff recommends that the planning commission find the project 116 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:44,880 categorically exempt pursuant to SQA guidelines and adopt a resolution 117 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:50,480 approving a second 10-year extension of the conditional use permit 0635 118 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:56,160 which again would ex extend the current operation to September 19th 2036. 119 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,920 There's the carryover condition that at that time it would come back to 120 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:04,000 commission if it were to be re-extended again. And that concludes staff's 121 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:09,440 presentation. I'm available for any questions and the project applicant is 122 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:13,760 also on the line for any questions. >> All right. Thanks, Mr. George. Uh the 123 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:19,200 public hearing is now open. Uh does the applicant have anything to say on this 124 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:23,200 uh item? >> Um this is Jacob Hamilton. I'm 125 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:27,920 representing the applicant SBA. I don't have anything to add. That sounds um 126 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,240 exactly like what the project is. And I'll be here for questions if you need 127 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:36,320 it. Okay, thank you. Um, go ahead and open 128 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:41,560 this up for public comment. Anybody uh here tonight that would like to make 129 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,560 public comment on this item. 130 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:49,440 Seeing none, uh, anybody on Zoom or emails 131 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:53,200 » and no emails for this item and no hands raised. 132 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:58,160 » Okay, go ahead and close uh the public hearing portion and bring it back to the 133 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:02,839 commission for further discussion. Any questions of staff or the applicant? 134 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:10,560 I guess my only question the 10-year um extension is that just because that's 135 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,640 how it kind of started. Is that the reasoning? 136 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:16,320 » Yeah, it was just built into the original conditions of approval. 137 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:21,600 » Okay. All right. Well, I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve. 138 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:25,560 » Go ahead and second. Got a first and a second. Can we get a roll call? 139 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,920 » Commissioner Global. Hi, >> Commissioner Morales. 140 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,160 » Hi, >> Commissioner Perez. 141 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:36,800 » Hi, >> Chairperson Cond. 142 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,360 » I >> thank you. 143 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:43,800 » All right, moving on to unfinished business will be item number six. 144 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:53,040 » I'll be presenting this item tonight. Is the audio okay? 145 00:11:48,959 --> 00:11:57,279 » Yep, we hear you. Good. Sounds good. So, I wanted to acknowledge that there has 146 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:00,959 been some irregularity in the procedure here for this recommendation. So, that's 147 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,200 mainly what I'll be reporting on tonight. Um, during the last city 148 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:10,399 council meeting, this item was actually brought to city council for discussion 149 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:14,720 as a moratorum recognizing that this is something the planning commission had 150 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:19,040 been considering. uh the city council had consensus not to continue pursuing 151 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:24,240 the item and they declined to provide authorization for further staff time 152 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:30,560 related to this item. So that left staff um with this current uh draft of the 153 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:36,000 staff report uh which was drafted prior to that meeting. Um so we don't have 154 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:40,480 much in the way of substantative updates for you on this uh or you know any 155 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:46,240 further metrics but we did want to give you guys an opportunity opportunity to 156 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:51,440 discuss it and uh it was agendaized as an action. So you may make the 157 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:57,519 recommendation however that's not going to come back to um the city council as 158 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,200 an agenda item. So that's sort of the background here. I'm happy to talk about 159 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,839 the moratorum and the state law surrounding that if you have questions 160 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:07,880 on it, but I'll let you guys go ahead and direct the discussion. 161 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:15,120 Okay. Uh go ahead and start I guess with the commission first before we take it 162 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:20,120 out to the public. Um any commissioners have any initial 163 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120 thoughts? 164 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:29,120 Yeah, I have a thought on this that we need to pay attention more to what 165 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:35,279 the citizens are asking for and take that into account as well as 166 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:41,040 any findings that we make. And I think it's important uh 167 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:48,480 to listen to the citizens of this city on what they want. And by the looks of 168 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:54,320 some of these emails that we got today, uh, majority of them do not want to see 169 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:57,800 any more gas stations and, um, car washes. 170 00:13:57,839 --> 00:14:03,839 Thanks, Commissioner. Um, I'll go ahead and start. I just kind of for the record 171 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:10,880 and for the public of how we got to where we are today. Um, I put together 172 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:17,199 just a brief timeline. So on May 4th of 26, a referral was made by vice chair 173 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Jimu uh for a discussion on a moratorium for car washes that came back to us on 174 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:30,720 May 18th, 2026. The planning commission gave consensus for the moratorum to move 175 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:36,720 forward as an agenda item. I added fuel stations to that recommendation. Um then 176 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:42,320 on June 15th, the item was brought back not as an agenda item but a discussion. 177 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:47,839 Um and staff stated they needed more feedback from all the commissioners 178 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:51,120 which was given. And then on July 13th, 2026, 179 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:56,240 this item was taken to the city council for discussion on whether to spend staff 180 00:14:53,600 --> 00:15:01,279 time to assemble a staff report and further research. The council gave 181 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:06,720 consensus 3 to2 not to give staff more time on this item. So, uh I guess my 182 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:11,360 initial question for you, Mr. City attorney, um why was this item taken to 183 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:16,320 city council if the planning commission had not officially voted on an agenda 184 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:21,600 item? >> I think that's a great question and I I 185 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:28,000 think it really comes down to sort of uh the authorization for staff resources, 186 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:33,040 right? Um, I think you know the city uh manager saw that staff was going to be 187 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,120 spending quite a bit of time on this and wanted to make sure that it's something 188 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:42,720 that was uh productive for the for the city and uh wanted to get um direction 189 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:47,199 from the city council on whether or not they wanted to entertain this as a 190 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:50,399 possibility and they decided that they didn't and they didn't want to spend any 191 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:54,800 more money on it. So I think that's what it really comes down to. 192 00:15:52,639 --> 00:16:00,560 » Okay. So then my next question is why was a staff report completed? 193 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:06,399 » It was uh this was staff report had been drafted prior to that. Um and so I just 194 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:11,360 added on the uh the procedural history there and and you know in an effort to 195 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,800 respect the commissioners and the request for an agenda item. I I thought 196 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:20,639 it was necessary to bring this back to you as a discussion and as an 197 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:26,160 opportunity. Um, you know, I I it wasn't necessarily required, but just as an as 198 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,399 an effort to to discuss it once one last time before, um, we were off the record 199 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,600 on it. >> Yeah. Okay, that No, that makes sense. 200 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,759 And I appreciate it being brought back. And that takes me into my next point of 201 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:42,560 um we do have a municipal code and a process for the planning commission to 202 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,880 that we have the authority to make recommendations 203 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:49,880 to the city council pursuant to section 2.05.040F 204 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:57,600 of the municipal code. Is that correct? >> That's correct. And and it doesn't 205 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:02,240 provide for much in the way of procedure for that but it does provide you with 206 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:08,160 the off authority. So, um, in an effort to to respect that authority and to, uh, 207 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:11,360 to let you guys, uh, discuss it and if you wanted to act on it, that that's how 208 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,600 we got here. >> Okay. But so, we take action tonight. 209 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,760 It's not going anywhere is what you're saying. It'll be reported to the city 210 00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:26,079 council, but there's, you know, a a staff report on this item, a moratorum, 211 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:31,200 is is fairly extensive and requires pretty robust legal findings because 212 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:38,960 you're going to be changing uh permitted land uses. Uh so you really want to have 213 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:46,080 uh some legal research and legal time into uh the exact agenda documents. So, 214 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:51,120 that was going to be a larger um a larger project for staff. 215 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:54,240 » Okay. So, if there's action on this item, what does it look like going back 216 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,559 to the city council then? >> It it'll be a likely a report from the 217 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:05,760 city attorney uh saying that you guys made the recommendation, but in light of 218 00:18:01,919 --> 00:18:13,440 uh council's previous consensus, we didn't agendaize the item. 219 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:17,120 Well, it seems like um there there was some sort of mistake of 220 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:22,080 why this was taken to the city council before we had the opportunity to 221 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:27,840 actually vote on the item. It it makes zero sense to me why that was done. Um 222 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:34,080 if it was done out of spite to disrupt this whole process. Um but it it's very 223 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:40,400 unfortunate that that happened. Um so I just want to say that on the record. Um, 224 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:45,760 and uh, I guess moving to a a question. I'm sure something else will come up, 225 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Tom, but moving on to uh, I know one member of the council relied on, you 226 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:55,120 know, not moving forward with this discussion um, in fear that it would 227 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:59,919 impact Maverick. Will a temporary moratorum impact that approved 228 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:05,120 development? >> Uh, that's an ongoing litigation. I 229 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:10,720 can't discuss that on the record. I think Mr. Gary was about to answer but 230 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:17,840 he may not now. >> So on the Mono Williams any previous 231 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:24,080 approved projects are not touched by the moratorum. So 232 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:29,440 this would mtorium is only for new projects that come into the city. 233 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:36,000 » Thank you. So the answer is no. It would not impact Maverick. Um okay. Any other 234 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:40,559 questions from commission before I take it out to the public? 235 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:43,679 Okay, we'll go ahead and open the public hearing now. Is there anybody in the 236 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,840 audience that would like to speak on this item? 237 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,720 Hold on. 238 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:12,880 Okay. I don't want to see it go back to the city council. They've already stated 239 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:17,919 their opinion whether it matters or not. It's going to cost more money to have it 240 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:22,880 investigated. And this is what I refer to as the city nickel and diamond us to 241 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,760 death. We cannot afford these stupid little things. This should have never 242 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:32,320 went to the city council first. It did. It's done. They have stated their 243 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:37,360 opinion. You're not going to change the m the mayor's mind. He's a little 244 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:43,919 hypocrite to start with. I just the answer is no. No gas station 245 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:46,880 is going to try to come here that doesn't think they're going to make 246 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:51,600 money. They're going to do their due diligence to see whether we want them or 247 00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:56,320 not. And that's at the time when you say yes or no. But to take this back to the 248 00:20:54,080 --> 00:21:00,960 city council to spend any more money on it is foolish. That's my opinion. Thank 249 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,280 you. >> Anybody else for public? 250 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:08,440 » Can you please um state your name for the record? 251 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:15,280 » I'm sure as hell you all know by now, but it's Shirley Rogers, Series, 252 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:20,919 California. >> We know he's Shirley. All right. Anybody 253 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:20,919 else for public comment? 254 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:28,559 » I would just like to say that I agree with what she said. If we're going to 255 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,559 bring any more businesses into into series, it should be sit down dinner 256 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:36,960 places and no more chicken places, no more gas stations. But what Shirley said 257 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:41,280 is correct. And my name is Barbara Loots. 258 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Thank you, Barbara. Anybody else for public comment? 259 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:59,200 » My name is uh Jorgeero. Um, my question to to to whoever made that 260 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:04,880 mistake, why continue with something that was a mistake? Two mistakes, don't 261 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:10,240 make it right. Continue to make the same mistake over and over. And it's not just 262 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:14,799 with this situation. It's with different situations that have happened in the 263 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:19,679 city that a mistake is done and it continues to happen over and over again. 264 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:24,640 Um, the Maverick gas station, a lot of 265 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:31,520 people understand that it's a different type of gas station is going to make 266 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:36,559 those diesel trucks stop in series instead of driving by and just going 267 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:41,520 either to Ripen or to Livingston depending what direction they're 268 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:49,200 traveling. But any other gas stations in town, we have a nice store right there 269 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:55,039 on Whitmore and Mitchell that it's been empty than Bacon because 270 00:22:53,039 --> 00:23:01,760 another gas station went across the street more modern and you call it 271 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:08,000 whatever you want to call it, but run out of out of business the other gas 272 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:12,400 stations. Um, so what's going to happen in a few years? We're gonna have other 273 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:18,400 gas stations around town that are going to be out of business looking bad. The 274 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:26,480 same thing with the car wash. There is a car wash on every main street in town. 275 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:31,200 There's one on Whitmore, a new one on Whitmore. There's another one on 276 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Whitmore at Mitchell, the Quick Quack Hatch Road. So, we have access to car 277 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:44,559 washes all around town. Why more car washes instead of focusing on trying to 278 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:50,080 bring other businesses that are going to attract people just like 279 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:55,039 that diesel truck stop is going to attract people to stop in 280 00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:59,440 series. focus on bringing businesses that are going to attract people from 281 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:04,559 out of town instead of just filling out the empty lots with gas stations that 282 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:13,120 again we don't have to drive more than a mile to find a gas station. If it was a 283 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:19,840 electric vehicle charging a station, 100% in favor of that because that's the 284 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:26,960 direction that the u the world is going. But just having gas stations just to 285 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:32,720 have them, it's just uh it makes no sense. It makes no sense to to continue 286 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:40,720 with that those projects that are just going to fill out the land and later on 287 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:45,400 just going to be vacant. Thank you. Anybody else for uh public comment? 288 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:57,520 » Okay. Uh moving on to Zoom. Anybody on Zoom? 289 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,240 No hands raised on Zoom, but we did receive a few emails I can read into 290 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,240 record. >> Okay, 291 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:22,320 this is for Nick Maynard, series resident. Please read this comment into 292 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:26,880 the public record for agenda item six. Chair cond and members of the planning 293 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:32,240 commission. I am writing in support of the planning commission referring a 294 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:37,520 temporary moratorum on new car wash and fueling station entitlements to the city 295 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:42,799 council. Series currently has 17 fuel stations with three more already 296 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:48,720 approved. If the approved car wash projects are completed, our city will 297 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:56,000 have seven full-ervice car washes and three self-service car washes serving 298 00:25:52,080 --> 00:26:00,799 approximately 49,000 residents. Those numbers should be enough to justify 299 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:05,919 taking a temporary pause and evaluating whether continuing to approve more of 300 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:12,240 the same uses is in the best long-term interest of series. A moratorum 301 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:16,799 would not close any existing business or permanently prohibit future development. 302 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:21,200 It would simply give the city time to study market saturation, traffic 303 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:26,320 impacts, water and infrastructure demands, environmental concerns, 304 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:31,120 employment opportunities, and the opportunity cost of using limited 305 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:36,080 commercial property for additional gas stations and car washes. Series needs 306 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:40,720 economic diversity. We should be working to attract 307 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:46,240 businesses that create quality jobs, generate meaningful economic activity, 308 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:52,720 provide services residents are currently leaving town to obtain and strengthen 309 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:57,840 the city's long-term tax base. Approving another gas station or car wash may be 310 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:02,640 the easiest development decision, but that does not necessarily make it the 311 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:06,799 best decision for the community. I disagree with staff's recommendation 312 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:13,600 that the planning commission take no action simply because the city council 313 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:17,200 did not previously reach a consensus. The planning commission has the 314 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:22,000 authority and responsibility to make recommendations concerning development 315 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:27,039 within the city. The council should receive a formal recommendation and be 316 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:32,400 required to consider the issue publicly. I ask the planning commission to 317 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:36,480 recommend that the city council adopt a temporary moratorum while the city 318 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:42,640 evaluates its zoning and development policies. At minimum, if the legal 319 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:46,960 findings for an urgency moratorum cannot be established, the commission should 320 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:52,400 recommend stronger entitlement requirements or zoning standards for 321 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:57,039 future car washes and fueling stations. series residents deserve a thoughtful 322 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:03,880 economic development strategy, not an endless repetition of the same limited 323 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:03,880 uses. Thank you. 324 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:23,760 » Good morning, Series planning committee. I fill series does not need any more gas 325 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:28,399 stations or car washes. We have too many already. Please, let's commit to 326 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:34,159 focusing on bringing quality businesses here. Be more selective and think 327 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:38,880 longevity. This is super important so we do not end up with new businesses that 328 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:46,200 don't last. Thank you for your time and consideration. Jyn Turnbo, city of Siri 329 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,200 resident since 1973. 330 00:28:56,159 --> 00:29:01,520 Chair condant and members of the planning commission, I am writing in 331 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,760 support of the planning commission's efforts to evaluate whether Siri should 332 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:10,880 adopt a excuse me adopt a temporary moratorum 333 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,840 on new car wash and fueling station entitlements while the city studies 334 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:20,480 potential updates to its land use regulations. 335 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:24,799 I encourage the commission to continue exercising its authority to make 336 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:29,600 recommendations to the city council despite the council's initial lack of 337 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:35,279 consensus on July 14th. The planning commission serves as the city's advisory 338 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:40,480 planning body and its responsibility is to evaluate long-term land use policy 339 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,960 based on planning principles and evidence even when those recommendations 340 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:50,320 may not initially align with the council's position. The staff report 341 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:56,080 demonstrates that series already has a significantly higher concentration 342 00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:01,840 of these uses than population-based averages. The report identifies 10 total 343 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:07,279 car washes, seven fullervice car washes, and three 344 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:12,320 self-service car washes if all approved projects are constructed, serving a 345 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,320 population of approximately 49,000 residents. 346 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:22,640 It further notes that the city currently averages approximately one car wash for 347 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:27,279 every 4,900 residents, while national estimates are approximately two 348 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:34,159 commercial car washes per 10,000 residents. Likewise, series currently 349 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:38,960 contains 17 fuel stations with three more approved for a total of 20 possible 350 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:43,919 fueling stations, resulting in approximately one fueling station for 351 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:48,640 every 2900 residents. The report concludes that these 352 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:53,679 concentrations exceed statewide population-based averages while 353 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:59,360 acknowledging that Highway 99 and regional traffic may justify somewhat 354 00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:05,520 higher demand. At the same time, the report also recognizes that the existing 355 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:10,480 concentration may indicate the city is approaching market saturation and that 356 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:16,559 current data alone cannot determine whether continued expansion reflects 357 00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:21,440 sustainable demand or an over supply. These statistics should not be dismissed 358 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:26,799 simply because series experiences commuter and pass through traffic. The 359 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:31,279 presence of highway 99 is not by itself evidence that unlimited expansion 360 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:36,799 remains consistent with sound planning policy. The purpose of a temporary 361 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:41,919 moratorum is not to permanently prohibit these businesses, but rather to allow 362 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:46,159 the city sufficient time to determine whether additional development supports 363 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:50,480 the general plan, economic development goals, 364 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:55,440 infrastructure capacity, and the long-term character of the city's 365 00:31:52,320 --> 00:32:00,799 commercial corridors. As noted by the city attorney, 366 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:05,519 California law already provides the city council with the legal authority to 367 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:09,039 adopt such a temporary pause. The planning commission's role is not to 368 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,840 adopt the ordinance itself, but to recommend action and assist in 369 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,840 developing the legislative record and supporting findings for the council's 370 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:21,440 consideration. I respectfully encourage the commission 371 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,519 to continue moving this discussion forward by adopting a formal 372 00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:31,919 recommendation to the city council supported by specific planning findings. 373 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:36,000 Those findings could include concerns regarding traffic circulation, 374 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:40,240 infrastructure demand, environmental impacts associated with water 375 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:45,679 consumption, and underground fuel storage, preservation of commercially 376 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,679 valuable intersections, and the city's long-term economic development 377 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:53,919 objectives. These are all recognized planning considerations that California 378 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:58,559 cities routinely evaluate when regulating land uses. If the city 379 00:32:56,399 --> 00:33:03,039 council remains unwilling to pursue a temporary moratorum, I encourage the 380 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:07,039 commission to recommend alternative regulatory measures that would 381 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:12,320 accomplish many of the same planning objectives. These include initiating 382 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:17,360 amendments to title 18 of the m municipal code to require conditional 383 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:22,240 use permits for future fueling stations and express car washes. Establishing 384 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:27,919 minimum spacing requirements between similar uses. Creating corridor specific 385 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:33,919 development standards along Highway 99, Hatch Road, and Mitchell Road. 386 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:38,159 Adopting overlay districts for high-v value commercial intersections. 387 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:42,159 implementing enhanced design and landscape standards, requiring 388 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:47,679 additional findings related to economic development and land use compatibility, 389 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:52,320 or developing performance standards that better integrate these uses into the 390 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:56,760 city's long-term planning goals. The planning commission has already 391 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760 recognized. 392 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:16,240 Dear members of the series planning commission, I am writing as a concerned 393 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,040 resident to respectfully ask the planning commission to consider the 394 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:26,000 long-term needs of our community as new development projects are reviewed and 395 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:31,280 approved. Many residents have noticed the continued growth of car washes and 396 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:36,800 gas stations throughout series. While these businesses certainly serve a 397 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:41,440 purpose, it feels as though our city has become saturated with them. I encourage 398 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:45,280 the commission to consider whether future commercial development could 399 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:50,800 better reflect the needs and interests of the families who call Series home. 400 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:55,679 One of the greatest needs, particularly in District 2, is for more activities 401 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,720 and recreational opportunities for children and families. 402 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:06,880 Our community would greatly benefit from attractions such as indoor play center, 403 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:12,240 family entertainment venue, youth creation facilities, sports complexes, 404 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,640 educational activity centers, or other businesses that provide safe and 405 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:22,560 engaging places for children and teens. As our city continues to grow, I hope we 406 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:27,680 can prioritize developments that improve quality of life, encourage families to 407 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:32,240 stay and spend time locally, and provide positive spaces for young people. 408 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,880 Investing in familyfriendly amenities would help make series a more vibrant 409 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:41,280 and connected community while supporting local economic growth. Thank you for 410 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:45,200 your time, your service to our city, and your consideration of this perspective. 411 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:50,320 I appreciate the work the planning commission does to help shape the future 412 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:55,440 of series and I hope these concerns will be taken into account as future projects 413 00:35:52,640 --> 00:36:00,560 are considered. Sincerely, Christina Dilla series president. 414 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,760 » Hey Stephanie, for the record, the last comment, what was the the name on that 415 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:09,240 one? I don't know if you said >> Oh, yes. Sorry. Uh Josh Steelely. 416 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,240 » Okay. 417 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Good evening, Series Planning Commission. My name is Courtney Man and 418 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:28,880 I am a fourth generation series resident raising the fifth generation of my 419 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:33,119 family here. I am extremely disappointed that we are once again 420 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:38,800 discussing the outcome of the council's decision regarding the gas station and 421 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:44,240 car wash moratorum. I strongly oppose adding more gas stations and car washes 422 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:48,640 to our small city. To be candid, I am deeply disappointed in those of you who 423 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:54,720 voted in favor of approving another car wash on Hatch Road. We were appointed, 424 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,960 you were appointed to represent the people of Series and to help shape a 425 00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:03,440 community where families want to live, work, and invest in their future. 426 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:07,680 Instead, many residents are left with the impression that public opinion 427 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:14,160 carries little weight when it conflicts with predetermined agendas. The message 428 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:18,800 being sent is that what the community wants is secondary to what is most 429 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:23,359 convenient for developers rather than what is best for the people who already 430 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:27,599 call home. My family remains in series because of 431 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,839 our deep roots and the support system we have here. We are fortunate to have 432 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:37,440 family members who help care for our children while we work. If that support 433 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:42,640 did not exist, I am not sure we would still choose to live here. I know many 434 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:49,839 other families who are who share similar concerns about the direction of our city 435 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:54,240 is heading. Excuse me. For two years, I served on the series Unified School 436 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:59,200 District Advisory Council, where I saw firsthand that enrollment has been 437 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:03,680 declining. An entire elementary school was built with the expectation that a 438 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:07,599 proposed housing development would fill it with students. That development never 439 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:12,320 materialized. And today, the campus is being used for 440 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:17,119 inschool suspension, overflow from Central Valley High School, and adult 441 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:22,400 education programs. While those programs serve important purposes, the school was 442 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:27,440 not built for those uses and rep it represents a costly example of planning 443 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:32,000 based on projected growth that never occurred. Series needs to stop planning 444 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:36,560 for growth that has not yet happened. We cannot continue making long-term 445 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:41,760 decisions based on assumptions instead of current realities. I believe there 446 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:45,760 are legitimate concerns that deserve careful consideration. Traffic 447 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:50,720 congestion throughout our city, particularly along 448 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:55,839 corridors like Hatch Road, continues to worsen. Every additional gas station and 449 00:38:53,599 --> 00:39:01,680 drive-through car wash, generates more traffic, more vehicle trips, longer 450 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:06,800 lines, more turning movements, and greater congestion on roads that are 451 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:12,079 already heavily traveled. These impacts affect the daily lives and 452 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:18,000 safety of the residents who already live here. There are also environmental 453 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:23,520 concerns for a city our size. Series already has a remarkably high number of 454 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:28,880 car washes. These businesses require significant water use, generate waste 455 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:33,280 water, increase vehicle emissions from cars, 456 00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:38,160 idling in cues, and contribute additional noise and traffic. Before 457 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,079 approving even more of these facilities, the city should ask whether our 458 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:46,480 community is truly underserved or whether we are whether we have already 459 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:51,040 exceeded what our current population reasonably needs. 460 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:55,280 We also have a clear example of how these types of properties 461 00:39:53,440 --> 00:40:00,720 can become long-term public safety concerns. The former TripleR gas station 462 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,800 now sits abandoned and has become a location associated with home 463 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:09,760 homelessness and other public safety issues. While no one can predict the 464 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:14,640 future of every business, this property demonstrates that vacant fuel stations 465 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,800 can become liabilities for surrounding neighborhoods when they are no longer 466 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:22,880 economically viable. Approving additional gas stations without 467 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:28,079 considering long-term demand increases the possibility of creating more vacant 468 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:33,200 commercial properties that ultimately become burdens on the community. These 469 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:37,040 are not hypothetical concerns. They are current conditions affecting the health, 470 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,960 safety, and welfare of our student, our residents. Today, 471 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:45,920 I ask that you carefully consider the long-term vision for seriesir. We have 472 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:51,040 an opportunity to build a community that reflects the values and desires of its 473 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:55,440 residents instead of repeating the same development patterns. As someone whose 474 00:40:53,119 --> 00:41:00,880 family has called series home for five generations, I want to be proud of the 475 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:05,200 direction our city is taking. Tonight, I ask you to consider not just what can be 476 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:09,440 built, but what should be built. I ask you to weigh the evidence before you, 477 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:16,359 listen to the residents you represent, and make decisions that prioritize the 478 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,359 long-term health, safety, and welfare. 479 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:36,800 Please read this comment into the public record. As a citizen of series, I 480 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,359 strongly disagree with adding more gas stations and car washes. As a community, 481 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:45,440 we need more housing and more code enforcement. Our city has abandoned 482 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:50,160 buildings and gas stations that are already making our community a very 483 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:56,960 unattractive place to live and visit. As a resident, I don't invite family to 484 00:41:54,079 --> 00:42:01,760 area due to the poor looking quality and feel of this city. The city has gone 485 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:06,640 downhill with homeless and abandoned buildings since we 486 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:10,720 purchased our home. If the city wants to keep residents, the council should 487 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:16,760 listen and respect what the citizens need and desire. Respectfully, Melanie 488 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,760 Casses. 489 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:29,520 Good evening. My name is Angie Riley. I am writing this email to express my 490 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:34,240 thoughts on building more gas stations and car washes in our small city of 491 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:39,200 Series. As I drove to work this morning between Morgan Road and the freeway 492 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:44,319 entrance, the five gas stations in the short distance only were servicing one 493 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:50,079 patron each. I don't feel that our city needs to add any more to the 20 that 494 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:55,359 currently exists. We are not in shortage of either of these service stations and 495 00:42:52,560 --> 00:43:00,960 our city deserves more options than gas and a clean car. As a longtime resident 496 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:06,240 of seriesir, I do not agree that our city should build our build more gas 497 00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:10,200 stations or car washes. Thank you for your time, Angie Riley. 498 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,520 Celeste. >> Okay. Um I'm going to double check in 499 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:21,440 the public. Anybody else that would like to make public comment? Shirley, I 500 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:24,240 apologize. You already had your five minutes. 501 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:27,200 » I didn't use up my whole five minutes, so bear 502 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:34,800 » with me. >> My problem is again the money. 503 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:38,160 » You know, you have the ability to okay or not okay when something comes up 504 00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:44,560 before you. >> Three minutes is good. But to spend any 505 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:51,760 more money to investigate this, to send it to a city council that you already 506 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:56,079 know is going to say no, would be a waste of money. These people that are 507 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,800 saying they don't want any more gas stations. When I moved here 51 years 508 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:08,440 ago, there was a bar and a church on every corner. These things solve their 509 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,440 self. Thank you. 510 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,319 All righty. Uh, yeah. Did you have public comment? 511 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:14,960 » Yeah. Come on up. >> Sorry, it's my first time here. How many 512 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:17,520 minutes do I have? >> You have five minutes. 513 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:23,839 » Five minutes. Okay. I'm not a resident here in series. However, I live nearby 514 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:28,880 and uh I'm actually appalled that you guys have something like this. It's 515 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:34,880 really communist because, you know, private businesses in our country really 516 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:41,280 should be driven by demand as well as capital. When the government comes in 517 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:48,160 and proposes we're going to have a moratorum, a moratorum is not transient. 518 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:54,160 It is not temporary. Once your policy passes, it is permanent. What does that 519 00:44:50,880 --> 00:45:01,280 mean? That means if any of existing stations or car washes, you know, um 520 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:06,960 should either go out of business because the owners age out or that, you know, 521 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:12,800 nobody wants to buy it or cannot buy it if your policy passes. You literally 522 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:18,720 tells people you cannot do it. You cannot do it. You cannot do it because 523 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:23,760 you're the government. Let me ask you this. Are you American? 524 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:29,839 for crying out loud. I am so shocked. I was born in Taiwan and I cannot believe 525 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:34,720 how rapidly California is losing to communism. You may not realize it 526 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:40,000 because I come in here, I see you guys. You guys look like normal Americans. I'm 527 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:44,960 sure you don't mean to have this policy so that your uh you know nice city can 528 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:51,680 become communist. But that's how communist is so scary because it first 529 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:58,160 infiltrate us. um disguised as something that is noble. Well, because you know, 530 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:04,079 gas station, it's gonna pollute the air. It's whatever. 531 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:10,240 Those are just excuses. Because if you think about science, why do we have 532 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:17,599 trees? You know, trees cannot exist without carbon dioxide. We humans 533 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:23,040 breathe in oxygen to live. Trees need carbon dioxide to live. That was God's 534 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:28,960 design. So that when we breathe out carbon dioxide, the tree naturally 535 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:35,520 filters the carbon dioxide and give us back oxygen. That's what trees do. So 536 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:42,240 for those so-called scientists, I want to ask them, what are they thinking? If 537 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:46,800 for real, God forbid, that they truly get rid of every single particle of 538 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,960 carbon dioxide, you know what's going to happen to us? we will also die because 539 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:56,480 that would also mean that we will no longer have oxygen for crying out loud. 540 00:46:53,920 --> 00:47:02,079 Please, you guys are good people. I can tell from your faces. Do not let 541 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:08,240 deception lead you lead us to the path of 542 00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:13,200 communism. There is no point of no there is point 543 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:18,960 of no return because I also uh share with you I have a property in the Bay 544 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:25,599 Area Contracasta County they have built so many affordable housing it's coming 545 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:30,480 here in the next 5 years you may not be these nice faces sitting up there that's 546 00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:34,240 what I experienced truly I was blessed by God that I have a 547 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:41,280 property here which I bought 20 years ago so that I am like a refugee right 548 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:48,319 Now in these in this you know nice county trying to dodge communism there. 549 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:56,079 Communism is like tsunami. It is coming like this wave that is devouring all of 550 00:47:51,119 --> 00:48:00,560 us. Please use science. Use the good founding principles of our founding 551 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:06,240 fathers. You know we all have inalienable rights. What does that mean? 552 00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:11,839 Everybody should have their right to exercise their brain to decide how they 553 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:16,880 want to invest their money if they feel that they can make money having gas 554 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:22,559 stations or car washes. Why can't they have the the opportunity or the right to 555 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:27,359 do it? And with all respect, you guys are all nice people. But you sitting 556 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:32,480 there, you are the government. So let me respectfully ask you, 557 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:39,520 what right do you have to take away our right to exercise our freedom to pursue 558 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:43,040 happiness and prosperity and liberty? Thank you. 559 00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:48,319 » Thank you for your comments. Anybody else for public comment? 560 00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:55,680 Mr. Warren, can we get the uh camera turned on to 561 00:48:52,000 --> 00:49:00,640 the public there? Thank you. Uh, good evening council. John Warren, 562 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:03,520 resident, city of Siri. I was considering whether to speak this 563 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:09,760 evening. The matter is very controversial. I know some cities close 564 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:16,160 by or neighboring cities are considering this same situation about the large 565 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:22,400 number of certain types of businesses in our community. But I do think growth has 566 00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:26,960 to be monitored. We have a general plan in the city and zoning that kind of 567 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:32,400 dictates where certain businesses, whether it's a a chicken business or a 568 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:38,160 car wash business or a gas station, where they can be located. And maybe 569 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:45,359 it's time series does step back and take a look at their zoning and take a look 570 00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:52,480 at uh how the design of the city we want to see move going forward. Um maybe gas 571 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:59,200 stations don't need to be in some of the locations where they're allowed now. Um 572 00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:04,720 and u if you take a look I hear the comments about the 573 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:10,079 District 2 businesses and things over there. Um there's quite a few gas 574 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:14,000 stations there and and we border on Crows Landing Road. I don't know when 575 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:19,920 the last time any of you folks went down Crows Landing or Yoseite Boulevard. 576 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:24,880 There's about 9,000 gas stations over in those locations and they're what a mile 577 00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:28,880 away from us if we drive down Whitmore or we drive down Hatch Road. There's a 578 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:35,440 lot of other businesses over there. There's certain types but u our sphere 579 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:41,839 of influence reaches out and u and encompasses a lot more than 20 gas 580 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:47,440 stations that we have. Um so it's something to consider. Um I think taking 581 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:52,079 a step back maybe a short moratorum. There's some time frames on moratorum 582 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:57,040 and they should be closely adhered to. So taking a look at that u might be the 583 00:50:55,119 --> 00:51:00,480 thing that our city should do. Thank you. 584 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:05,359 » Thank you Mr. Warren. Anybody else for public comment? I see one hand raised on 585 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:10,599 Zoom. >> Yes, we have Brandy Meyer. Y 586 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,400 » can you hear me? Okay. >> Yep, we can hear you. 587 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,920 » Okay. Um, I don't know what the answer is to this, but I just wanted to put in 588 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,920 my two cents. Um, I own several businesses here in Syria. I've been a 589 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:30,400 resident for 30 plus years. I'm not sure moratorum, but I do know 590 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:35,440 when I read through it, it said temporary. It's a temporary moratorium 591 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:40,160 as of now. What I would like to see is more of a variety of businesses coming 592 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:44,960 to series. I would love to see maybe a bakery, an antique shop, another ice 593 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:51,119 cream shop. We need more for our families here in series. And from what I 594 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:56,880 understand, we have over 25 or over 20 plus gas stations. 595 00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:00,720 So, I wouldn't want to encourage gas stations 596 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:05,040 or those types of businesses, but I do think we need to I don't know, maybe an 597 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:09,200 ad hoc committee put together to go out and find other businesses or other 598 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:12,960 investors who can bring in a variety of businesses. 599 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:19,920 I would never want to discourage a business to come to seriesiries, but 600 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:24,240 I think the answer at this point is that we need to find a variety of other 601 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:28,720 businesses that can bring in tax dollars. 602 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:33,880 So, that's about all I have to say and uh good luck to you guys because I know 603 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,880 this is going to be a tough decision. 604 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:41,119 » All right. Thanks, Brandon. All right. Final call for public comment. 605 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:46,079 Okay. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close the public comment portion and 606 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:51,920 bring it back to the commission. Um I guess I Tom, just a few more questions. 607 00:52:48,319 --> 00:53:01,520 Um I just I pulled up the city council agenda from um July 13th. Um and it and 608 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:06,960 I was at that meeting uh as well. Um the discussion was about staff time to do 609 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:11,119 further research. Is that correct? And Julian, you can chime in if if you would 610 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,119 like. 611 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,920 I'll let Julian answer that. I I wasn't at that city council meeting. 612 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:22,800 » Yes, that is correct. It was more for financial reasons, 613 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:27,520 » but specifically for to do further research on this topic. Correct. 614 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:32,720 » And for the record, there were three members who said on the dis should go 615 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,760 back to the planning commission for further direction. Is that correct? 616 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:45,760 I would have to check the minutes from that. Um, 617 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:49,760 recla was a three two vote. It 618 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:54,480 » was a 3-2 vote. However, >> yeah, go ahead, Tom. I just reviewed um 619 00:53:52,160 --> 00:54:01,440 the uh video before this and it was a 3-2 vote not to um add any additional 620 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:05,760 staff time to the uh to the this item and it was it did not explicitly include 621 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:09,920 any referral back to the planning commission is my understanding. 622 00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:15,040 » Okay. Well, I would encourage you to go back and listen to the discussion. Um 623 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,559 there were two the two who voted in favor 624 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:21,920 that vote is on the record but council council member for district 2 stated 625 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:28,079 this should go back to the planning commission. That's the first thing she 626 00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:34,400 said. So um I guess with that in mind it's now back to us. 627 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:39,520 The again this whole process is just so backwards. But um we make a 628 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:44,319 recommendation tonight and it's not going back to them as an action agenda 629 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:50,480 item. >> I I do not believe that it would be 630 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:56,720 agendaized as a action item. You know, a moratorium like this would require um uh 631 00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:01,520 the ordinance itself uh public notice public noticing an extensive staff 632 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:06,720 report. Uh so those would all need to be prepared. uh at the at the maximum it 633 00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:13,440 would go back as a discussion item but I think due to uh the consensus provided 634 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:17,440 uh the council declined to entertain that so it would just be reported to the 635 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:23,119 council as a recommendation by the planning commission the council doesn't 636 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:26,400 have any obligation to agendaize such a recommendation although that is 637 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:31,520 typically what does happen >> okay but when this went back without our 638 00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:37,599 knowledge it was not an action item to consider this. It was it was to consider 639 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:42,000 staff time. Do you do you understand where I'm trying to differentiate this? 640 00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:47,680 » Yes, I do. And so >> those are two different things. If we 641 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:52,799 take this back, it's an actual item as far as this process goes that we have 642 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:58,079 the authority to do this. It goes back for their con official in consideration. 643 00:55:56,559 --> 00:56:06,000 rather when this went to the city council uh on July 13th, it was we want 644 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:09,920 your opinion on staff time to do further research. Those are two different 645 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:14,559 different things. >> I I think one is intrinsic to the other 646 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:19,520 in that you need staff time in order to prepare something like that for the 647 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:23,920 council. Um so I I would say that that that's how they are connected. Uh I 648 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:29,680 don't know as though the city city staff can prepare any further on this given 649 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:33,160 the direction of the city council. >> Okay. Um, 650 00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:42,480 has a process like this ever happened before to where the planning commission 651 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:47,839 um goes about the process pursuant to the municipal code 652 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:56,240 gives consensus waiting for it to be agendaized and an item without any um uh 653 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:59,440 notice just goes to the city council without 654 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,640 you know just going outside of the process. that the municipal code has set 655 00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:09,119 up. Has that ever happened to your knowledge before? 656 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:13,280 » Um to my knowledge, uh no, that has never happened. Uh the city manager has 657 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,200 the authority to bring any item to the city council. And so I I think that's 658 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:22,319 where he used his authority to say, "Look at we need some direction on on if 659 00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:26,559 you want us to move forward with this despite the lack of planning 660 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:30,880 commission's recommendation." And so and that's how we got to uh the current 661 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:37,599 procedural history. I you know what I acknowledge it's irregular and um it's 662 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:46,280 difficult but uh that's the current situation and the planning commission 663 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,280 authority is fairly narrow here. 664 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:53,520 » Okay. Well, I I am requesting the city manager be at our next meeting to 665 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:59,280 explain why this process was done backwards and why the item was taken to 666 00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:03,359 the city council um and basically sabotage basically this whole process. 667 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:07,520 So, it's very >> Yep. I will add that I believe that 668 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:12,400 there might have been an additional referral item from a city council member 669 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,960 that was sort of in the sphere of this and so it might have been in um an 670 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:21,200 effort to address both of these items together. I think they were doing sort 671 00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:26,880 of a referral oriented meeting previously. not 100% 672 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:32,880 sure on that, but I do know that um a council member had referenced your your 673 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:36,160 discussion and had wanted to um consider something. I I don't know if it was 674 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:41,280 exactly the same, but consider something that was associated with it. And those 675 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:46,000 two things combined might have prompted uh the uh the procedure. 676 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:50,480 » Okay. Why I would like the city manager to give some sort of report perhaps at 677 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:55,599 our next meeting to explain this because it's it's disheartening to it 678 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:59,760 discourages the planning commission for making recommendations pursuant to the 679 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:05,599 municipal code that we have power to do so. So if we tonight in our referral 680 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,960 section or new business ma matters initiated by the planning commission if 681 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:14,240 somebody makes a recommendation how do we not know it's going to turn into a 682 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:18,319 debacle like this? It's um again it's just disheartening to see. Um okay. 683 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:21,920 Yeah, go ahead. >> I mean I at the end of the day the 684 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,760 recommendation was put in front of the city council and and I I get that you 685 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:31,200 guys didn't flush it out completely. >> With all due respect, it was not the 686 00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:34,319 recommendation. It was to staff time. That's what the discussion was about. I 687 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,640 was at the meeting. It was not the official 688 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:42,880 temporary moratorum. That discussion may have turned to that and that's the 689 00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:47,760 council's will. However, the the discussion was about staff time. So, it 690 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,960 it has turned this process into just just a circus. 691 00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:54,240 » Well, I I think you do need to understand at some point that the the 692 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,680 planning commission doesn't have the authority to uh you know uh have 693 00:59:57,359 --> 01:00:06,079 specific staff time allocated to their requests within reason of course but 694 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:11,359 » I understand that it's ultimately again I want to follow the process we it 695 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:16,240 starts here. We make the recommendation. We give consensus. It's agendaized. We 696 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:20,559 vote on it and then it's taken to the city council. 697 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:24,799 We gave consensus and it was taken to the city council without an agenda item 698 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,160 to where we had a public hearing where people could show up and give their 699 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:32,480 thoughts. The public, you know, was honestly the the loser in this because 700 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:37,119 they didn't get to participate. And now they're here tonight giving their 701 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:40,720 opinion. We had eight email, seven emails, members of the public, and we're 702 01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:46,799 going to take action, but it's going nowhere. It It's embarrassing. 703 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:53,200 So, I know you got no response. It's okay. It's just my comments. Um, okay. I 704 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:59,280 have more uh discussion on this, so I want to refer to the item 705 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:04,640 of the staff report. Um, so the map identifies 17 fuel fueling stations 706 01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:10,400 within the city of series and the map identifies three fueling stations under 707 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:14,319 development or or in progress. Um, 708 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:19,839 however, the map does not include fueling stations on Joyce Avenue, Circle 709 01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:27,040 K76. It does not include George's Gas 76 on 710 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:33,520 Central Avenue. It does not include SC Fuels on 237 East Whitmore A and it does 711 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:38,720 not include the abandoned TripleR on Whitmore and Mitchell. 712 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:44,839 Um the map also does not include a rumored gas station in front of Walmart. 713 01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:44,839 Um 714 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:54,000 so with that um in mind, we have a flawed staff report based on the 715 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:57,520 numbers. Um, but I have a couple different scenarios that I'm just going 716 01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,760 to submit to the the record and then the members here and people on Zoom. So, 717 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:08,160 going off of the data presented in the staff report, 17 fueling stations and 718 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:16,720 three in development, we have 4.08 fueling station per 10,000 resident. 719 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:23,440 The state average um is 2.65 65 gas stations per 10,000 720 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:29,520 resident. So with that, we're almost double. 721 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:36,079 And uh Modesto, their average is 3.62 gas stations per 10,000 resident. 722 01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:41,920 We're 4.08 under 17 fueling stations and three in 723 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:46,160 development. So, if we add the four gas stations that were not included in the 724 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:51,760 staff report, that number jumps up to 4.9 725 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:57,680 fueling stations per 10,000 resident. So again, the state average 2.6 726 01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:01,839 and accurate fueling stations is 24 in our city and that's 4.9 per 10,000 727 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:09,280 residents. Um, to give perspective, um, 728 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:14,319 let's see here. Um, again, Modesto 3.6 six. Their population is over 200,000 729 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:20,640 people. And Tracy has an average of 2.6 as well. 730 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:25,359 Their population is over 100,000 people. Um, 731 01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:31,359 and we have 49,000 people in our city and we have 732 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:39,200 we have 4.9 fueling stations per 10,000 person. It's the numbers are there. Um, 733 01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:42,960 and it's again just very um discouraging to see that this, you know, we see all 734 01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:47,200 the social media comments we heard tonight. A lot of people are in favor of 735 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:52,799 this. We have too many gas stations in our city and and car washes. There's 736 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:57,760 limited data on that. City of Mantika is in the process of of doing a similar 737 01:03:55,359 --> 01:04:04,480 temporary moratorum um and and series is failing. So, in in 738 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,079 this topic, um, so those are those are my comments. I'm going to I know I spoke 739 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:11,359 a lot tonight, but I'm going to open it up to my other commissioners for 740 01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:15,839 questions. >> Uh, yeah, Tom, I have a question. Um my 741 01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:22,079 understanding is that the moratorum was discussed as possibly opening up the 742 01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:28,079 city to litigation by um developers hoping to develop a gas station or car 743 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:34,160 wash having the correct permits and then given any sort of kind of um response 744 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:38,480 from the planning commission um would possibly 745 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:41,920 um open us up for litigation. Is is that something that's true or is that more 746 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:45,760 speculation? Well, I I wouldn't say it would be from 747 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,200 necessarily um 748 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:53,760 particular project applicants, but they would rather attack the validity of the 749 01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:57,520 moratorium as a whole, right? Um you have to you have to find some concrete 750 01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:03,359 you have to make some concrete findings about um health, safety, welfare to um 751 01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:08,000 ensure that the moratorium is permissible under state law. And so 752 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:12,720 that's a broad category. That's a broad area and the city has broad police power 753 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:17,920 to regulate those things but we really need to come from a position uh of 754 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:24,400 conformance with with that state law in order to um pass a moratorium similar to 755 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:30,880 this. Uh whereas the um the effects on the community are 756 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:34,559 less uh apparent for gas stations and car washes than they might be for 757 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:38,160 another type of use. say like you see a lot of the data centers going through 758 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:46,480 moratorium right now. That's a little bit of a you know more visible um uh 759 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:49,760 challenge to the community. So something like this you just really want to make 760 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:55,440 sure that you're in conformance with the say law before passing it. 761 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:59,440 » Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. Um yeah, I just wanted to say that um I 762 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:03,760 it's really nice to get this feedback, the emails and having people come to the 763 01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:09,359 meeting. this this feedback helps us get the data that that allows us to do this 764 01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:14,720 kind of work. Um so I I appreciate that. Uh I I do think a little bit of uh the 765 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:22,079 process has been lost in this discussion. um very much so the 766 01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:27,200 moratorum is is a legal category and u similar to what Tom said I think like 767 01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:31,520 that threshold to develop a moratorum hadn't really been met in terms of the 768 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:35,520 research and the staff time and also of course there's the idea of of paying 769 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:41,839 staffers to do more work to research this so economic development is not a 770 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:48,880 one-man show um we are not um the only uh folks involved in this so Um, I 771 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:54,240 understand kind of the frustration with having just these new projects in 772 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:59,280 development, but I think, um, I voted against it because I thought, uh, one, 773 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:03,039 it would it would open us up to litigation, and two, we were denying 774 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:09,760 shovel ready projects that had already been approved by um, our various 775 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:14,880 departments. Um, so I just wanted to kind of discuss more of the nuance. Um, 776 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:20,000 the the anger and the expression is is necessary and helpful. Um, but I'm 777 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:24,559 wondering if we can do something like similar to a moratorum that isn't quite 778 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:31,039 at that legal threshold, more like suggested guidelines for future uh fuel 779 01:07:27,839 --> 01:07:35,680 and car wash stations that have a hiring kind of requirement for serious 780 01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:40,400 residents or maybe 50% of their pumps have to be EV chargers. Is that 781 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:46,799 something that can kind of get around the inability to develop a moratorum or 782 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:51,760 is that um a suggestion that maybe is a little bit too um farreaching for this 783 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:58,559 platform? I don't know if staff wants to jump in. 784 01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:04,160 » So, so a big portion of the um moratorum is to provide time for the city to study 785 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:08,000 its land use and to propose future regulations for those types of uses. So 786 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,319 I think your suggestion makes a lot of sense in that uh you won't be imposing 787 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:16,480 the moratorum but you'll still be thinking about the studying and 788 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:21,839 evaluating the land uses which is which is a component of what you're typically 789 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:26,480 doing during that moratorum period. >> Okay. Um I don't know if that's like a 790 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,120 motion we can do. Sorry chair I'll defer to you. 791 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:34,000 » Uh yeah I think we'll see if anybody else has any comments. When when we 792 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:38,600 discussed this item, the initial time the consensus was 5-0. Correct. 793 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:49,719 Okay. I was just curious. Dor Dory said she voted no. I thought it was it was 794 01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:49,719 unanimous. 795 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:59,080 I was just curious. Okay. Bob, you got any comments? 796 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:05,600 Francisco? Um, no. I mean, 797 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,679 as we sit here reading and going through all these emails, I I think the people 798 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,679 have spoken. So 799 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:34,239 this item doesn't require any action to be taken or you can you can make a 800 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:39,239 motion. Um uh anything that will be done will be done by the minutes. There's no 801 01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:39,239 associated resolution. 802 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:46,239 Yeah, I'm trying to figure making sure I got all my points across. 803 01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:52,880 Can Tom, did you put together a staff report or did did Julian? 804 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:56,800 » I added the uh the background and the um the legal components of it. 805 01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:00,840 » Okay. So, >> who added the gas stations? 806 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,840 » Are you referring to the map? >> Yes. Yes, sir. 807 01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:09,120 » The map I did. Okay. All the yellow dots are the current gas stations that we 808 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:13,360 have. The green dots, the lightly green dots 809 01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:19,520 are the ones that have been re have been approved by commission. 810 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:25,120 Okay. Can can we confirm on the record that Circle K76 is not on that map on 811 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:31,040 Joyce A which is by the 711 headed towards the 812 01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:35,280 99 has Jamba Juice attached to it. 813 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,560 Oh, I've Heen. >> He burned in. Yes. 814 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:45,280 » Oh, the one that's supposed to be to the left of the two dots there. Okay. 815 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,400 » So, confirming that one is not on the map. 816 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:52,239 » There's Chevron. There's the 76. That is not on there. 817 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:56,520 » Okay. And confirming George's Gas 76 on Central A is not on that map. 818 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,800 I stand correct. You stand yes. It is not on here. 819 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:14,880 » SC Fuels on East Whitmore is not on that map as well. And Triple R on Whitmore is 820 01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:18,719 not on that map. >> Triple R is not because it's not a gas 821 01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:21,840 station that's in service. So it's an abandoned gas station. 822 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:30,320 » It is a gas station though, right? >> But it's not an operated gas station. So 823 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:34,640 the site is it's a dead site. So due to circumstances that are beyond our 824 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,000 control, that is a dead sight. Um so it it's not a gas station. It was at one 825 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:42,400 time a gas station, but it's not an active gas station, so it is not on 826 01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:44,719 here. Um what was the other one that you said? 827 01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:51,679 » Um SC Fuels. Um >> one in front of Rockefeller. 828 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,159 » No, it headed towards Crows Landing. I don't believe that's Rockefeller. 829 01:11:55,440 --> 01:12:00,640 It would be past flyers if you're headed toward down 830 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,960 » on the right hand side. That is a county gas station. That is not in the city of 831 01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:07,360 Series. >> Okay. It It's in It's in our city 832 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:09,760 limits. I mean, it's in district two. >> It's not in our district. 833 01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:13,159 » No. >> In front of Gallow. 834 01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:20,080 » No, not at Well, yeah, I believe that is Gallow across the street. Yes. 835 01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:24,560 » Yes. So, that is county. >> Okay. 836 01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:30,400 So, we're missing you two I I believe three with triple R 837 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:32,640 but two gas stations off of that list. Okay, 838 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:39,199 » thank you. >> Yep. Thank you. Um so again I I'm going 839 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:43,199 to revert back to we we are way over the state average and local average. Um 840 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:49,760 Modesto has 3.62, 841 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:55,840 Tracy has 2.6, Stockton has 2.9. And these are cities with populations 842 01:12:51,920 --> 01:13:01,520 well well uh more than more than ours. Um and it's it's oversaturation of of 843 01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:07,679 gas stations and and there should be more studies done on car washes as well. 844 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:14,000 But I'm going to make a motion. Um I would like to separate these two items. 845 01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:20,480 Um and I'm again however staff decides to take it back to city council. It is 846 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:25,360 what it is. this process has been um whatever the right term for it is. But 847 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:28,880 um I'm going to make a motion to recommend to the Siri City Council to 848 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:34,239 put a temporary moratorium on fueling stations in the city of series for one 849 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:38,159 year revisiting the moratorum after one calendar year passes due to the 850 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:43,520 inconsistencies with the general plan oversaturation data and local state 851 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:47,760 averages while changing the findings to those stated. 852 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:53,360 Just to jump in there, I apologize. They can only implement a 45day moratorum, 853 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:59,920 but then it would have to be extended. >> I will change it to 45 days to do that. 854 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:04,600 » I'll go ahead and second that. >> We got a first and a second. Can we get 855 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,600 a roll call? 856 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:14,159 » Commissioner Global. >> Hi, 857 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:16,640 » Commissioner Morales. Hi, >> Commissioner Perez. 858 01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:20,000 » Nay. >> Chairperson Condid. 859 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:27,040 » Hi. >> Okay. Motion passes. Um 31. 860 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:30,719 » Okay. And second, I will make a motion to recommend to the Siri city council to 861 01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:35,040 put a temporary moratorium on car washes in the city of series for 45 days 862 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:40,239 revisiting the moratorium after those 45 days passes due to the inconsistencies 863 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:46,239 of the general plan, oversaturation, public concern, and data. while changing 864 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:51,560 the findings to those stated. >> Second that first and a second. Can we 865 01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,560 go to roll call? 866 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:56,360 » That was Global that second. >> Yeah. 867 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,360 » I 868 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:01,040 » uh Commissioner Goel >> I 869 01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:04,239 » Commissioner Morales >> I 870 01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:07,440 » Commissioner Perez. >> Chairperson Condit. 871 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:13,360 » I motion passes 3 to one with one absent. 872 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:17,040 Okay, moving on. Unfinished business, none. New business, none. Ma matters 873 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:21,760 initiated by planning commission and staff. I would like the city manager at 874 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:29,520 our next um planning commission meeting to discuss um the municipal code section 875 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:34,560 2.05.040F 040F 876 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:40,480 and a um explanation for why this process on item six was uh turned out 877 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:47,360 the way it did and reports. Anybody have any reports? 878 01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:54,000 Seeing none, we'll go ahead and adjourn to our next meeting on Yeah, I have to 879 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:59,840 adjourn this though. adjourn to August 3rd, 2026 at 6 p.m. and we are going to 880 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:05,920 convene to the series downtown revitalization area board um right now. 881 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:10,840 So go ahead and adjourn this one. Yeah, we'll go and take a 5m minute 882 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,840 break. 883 01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:16,760 All righty, folks. We're going to get started here. I'm going to call this uh 884 01:20:11,679 --> 01:20:16,760 meeting to order and we get a roll call. 885 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,920 » Let's see. Commissioner Global. 886 01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:29,199 Commissioner Morales >> present. 887 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:33,040 » Commissioner Jamu absent. Commissioner Perez. 888 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:37,360 Chairperson cond. Conflict of interest. Anybody having a 889 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:40,880 conflict of interest? No. Consent calendar. All matters list on the 890 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:45,360 consent calendar considered routine in nature uh and will be enacted by a 891 01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:48,800 single motion unless otherwise requested by an individual commissioner or the 892 01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:52,880 public for special consideration. Otherwise, the recommendation of staff 893 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:59,880 will be to accept accepted and act upon by roll call vote. I'm going to turn it 894 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:59,880 over to Mr. Giri here. 895 01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:11,280 So, good evening, planning commission chair. 896 01:21:08,719 --> 01:21:16,400 Uh this evening, um I'll give you a little history on the downtown 897 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:20,960 revitalization board for the new uh planning commissioners. So, the series 898 01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:28,640 downtown revitalization area was established um pursuant to the parking 899 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:35,440 and business improvement area of 1979 and adopted an ordinance in 1988 900 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:40,000 uh by the Siri City Council um for the purpose of the district was to provide a 901 01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:43,360 funding mechanism through business assessments to support activities 902 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:49,199 improvements that would enhance and promote the downtown area. In 1995, the 903 01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:53,840 city council adopted an ordinance which expanded the flexibility of how 904 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:58,880 assessments could be utilized for programs and projects specifically for 905 01:21:56,719 --> 01:22:02,719 the downtown area. 906 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:07,440 The state law requires that the city council establish an advisory board for 907 01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:11,120 the district. The advisory board is responsible for making recommendations 908 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:15,840 to the city council regarding expenditures of assessments revenues and 909 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:21,040 may also provide recommendations concerning the method and basis of 910 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:25,120 leving assessments within the district. When initially established, the advisory 911 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:30,159 board was compri comprised of business owners located within the boundaries of 912 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:36,960 the downtown revitalization area. So that boundary is from 913 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:42,239 El Camino north to Magnolia. The business is just north of Magnolia 914 01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:49,679 um to the 915 01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:54,880 east side um of six uh all the way east to sixth street. um only those 916 01:22:52,639 --> 01:23:00,400 businesses to the west and then all the way from Al 917 01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:05,760 Camino to Magnolia where it meets on the intersection by Polar Street. 918 01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:10,719 U to ensure continued administr uh the boundaries over time participation by 919 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:14,480 business owners had declined um resulting in reoccurring difficulties in 920 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:19,920 maintaining a quorum necessary to conduct official business. 921 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:26,159 So in 1998 the planning commission was appointed as 922 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:30,239 the advisory uh board and the planning commission has contain continued to 923 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:33,920 fulfill this role since that time providing recommendations to city 924 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:41,440 council regarding the downtown revitalization. So this evening um we're 925 01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:45,679 here one um first, second, third and fourth quarter 926 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:53,080 are presented. These should be coming to you quarterly um due to staff um 927 01:23:54,239 --> 01:24:00,880 we had an overturn in the finance department and then in our department. 928 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:05,840 So we apologize for them coming to you all at one time, but normally they would 929 01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:13,600 come um after each quarter to present to you a report um and also to indicate the 930 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:19,199 expenses and what assessments were collected during those quarters. 931 01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:25,520 So the last two years unfortunately the city council has 932 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:29,360 uh voted not to levy the assessments. So, as you can see on the quarter 933 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:35,840 reports, there's zero assessments that were uh collected, but we did have a 934 01:24:32,639 --> 01:24:41,600 significant um expenditures that we had to pay out through in this account. So, 935 01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:48,560 tonight um to we're just asking for the advisory board to approve the quarterly 936 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:56,880 reports and then also to approve the annual report for the 2627 year. in that 937 01:24:53,840 --> 01:25:03,840 report. Basically, it's the improvements and activities to be proposed is to 938 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:08,800 continue with um if granted the assessments to come in and then 939 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:13,440 utilizing that funding that's in this set aside separate account. It's a 940 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:20,239 standalone budget account for the downtown businesses uh to utilize that 941 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:24,320 to pay for the lighting. Um the landscaping contract has been 942 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:30,560 cancelled due to there is there was no funding into that account. Um to improve 943 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:37,600 uh they I think they want to do like way science to help um kind of emphasize the 944 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:42,560 downtown businesses and stuff. So that is just a placeholder. So part of it is 945 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:49,040 we have to present to the advisory board any ex expenditures that we this 946 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:54,480 um bid would like to expend during the 947 01:25:51,520 --> 01:26:04,679 year. Um so basically we have placeholders. So as you can see on the 948 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:04,679 it's uh the attachment sorry 949 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:21,199 It's exhibit D, which is the proposed um budget for 2627. 950 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:27,520 The projected revenue we anticipate to collect approximately $7,000 from 951 01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:34,080 businesses. The expend expenditures for this year is roughly 2,750. 952 01:26:31,679 --> 01:26:39,040 that it will include electricity where the downtown lighting. Um we put 953 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:42,320 advertisement in there. This is just if there was like a major event that they 954 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:47,120 wanted to hold and the businesses wanted to advertise it, they would be allowed 955 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:52,080 to pull from this funding to do large advertisement outside of what like the 956 01:26:49,679 --> 01:26:55,440 city or any other would do. And then contract services, it was discussed that 957 01:26:54,080 --> 01:27:00,159 they wanted to do like Christmas lighting on the trees downtown during 958 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:04,320 Christmas time. So, we had to put a placeholder in there for approximately 959 01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:08,239 $1,000. Not sure if that's what it was going to cost, but these are just 960 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:12,960 placeholders in there. As you can see, wayfinding signs, downtown incentive 961 01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:19,840 programs, and FCOD um renovation, those are just on holding 962 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:25,840 back in 20, I believe 17. Um they were approved as expenditures. 963 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:30,639 Um the funding has we've had a lot of funding in there, but over time it has 964 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:36,639 deplened. The last two years it really deplenished because there was no 965 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:42,639 assessment. And so we're asking for the the board to approve the the 966 01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:47,120 expenditures, approve the yearly report, and then this would then go to city 967 01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:51,840 council for approval and then for them to set a public hearing 30 days from the 968 01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:57,920 approval. um to vote on the levy assessment. And 969 01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:03,920 the levy assessment then the businesses would be notified 970 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:09,679 um by mail or the public hearing to come in either oppose or agree with the the 971 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:16,159 assessment at the time. or the council could wish to not collect the assessment 972 01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:21,840 and then um either vote to disband the bid or 973 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:28,159 continue the assessment until the funding is replenished. Um right now 974 01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:35,960 we're looking at going into 2027 with approximately a little bit over $2,000 975 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,960 um in that account. 976 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:45,199 Okay, >> that's it. 977 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:48,960 » Okay. Any any questions of uh of Julian? >> Yeah, I've got a couple questions for 978 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:55,560 you, Julian. On exhibit A, you're showing 979 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,560 all four quarters. 980 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,400 um 981 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:08,960 with what I can't figure out is you're showing an ending cash balance of 982 01:29:06,639 --> 01:29:14,080 20,127. So yes, and I do apologize because 983 01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:20,719 that's when the quarter report was created at the end of 984 01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:26,719 where's the end of June, but we still had outstanding invoices from the Grover 985 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:30,320 landscaping that had not been processed yet. 986 01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:37,679 So if you look at the bottom contract services, Grover was 1820 per month. So, 987 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:41,600 we were we still needed um their invoices to come in and get 988 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:45,040 cleared. >> So, you're saying that ending cash 989 01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:46,800 balance is 2,000? >> Yes. 990 01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:52,719 » Okay. >> Has that been updated on online or 991 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:57,120 » that has that was just on the budget. If you look at the exhibit D, it just says 992 01:29:55,040 --> 01:30:00,120 approximately balance rollover is 231159. 993 01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:09,600 » Okay. because you're showing contract services of 36.40 a month that were 994 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:17,800 subtracted. So why is there another Grover 995 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,800 invoices? 996 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:27,280 You put it in there. Hang on. You're showing that we paid for over 997 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:30,679 $14,560 for the year. 998 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:41,760 So, Grover's account should be 21,840 for 12 months. 999 01:30:38,239 --> 01:30:46,960 So, if you look at year to date, 14,560. And I apologize if it didn't get I think 1000 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:52,159 it didn't get calculated correctly. So, I do apologize and we can make that 1001 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:57,840 correction and bring it back. So, does Grover come weekly or 1002 01:30:55,679 --> 01:31:02,400 » So, Grover would come once a week on Fridays, but they no longer will come as 1003 01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:05,040 effective June 30th. They're no longer contracted with the city. 1004 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,560 » So, they were coming once a week basically. 1005 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:13,440 » They were coming once a week. Yes. >> Okay. Mhm. 1006 01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:18,520 » And who is doing that service now? >> That service will fall back on the city 1007 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,520 of Syri. 1008 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:25,360 » Okay. Well, I'll go ahead and open it up to the public. Any members of the public 1009 01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:28,360 that would like to uh speak on this item, 1010 01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:38,239 Mr. Warren? >> Wait. Um, have we voted on the Is this 1011 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:41,040 for the consent item still or the annual report? 1012 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:45,199 » I think we're still on the consent. >> Okay. Just 1013 01:31:42,639 --> 01:31:49,840 » that can be open up to the public or >> I think we skipped over the consent. So, 1014 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:53,840 can we vote on the consent, please? >> Hold on one second, Mr. Warren. I'll go 1015 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:58,520 ahead and motion to approve item uh seven and then we'll take it to the 1016 01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,520 public hearing. 1017 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:05,679 » I'll second that. >> Okay, we got a first and second on 1018 01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:07,840 consent. We get a roll call. >> Commissioner Global 1019 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,159 » I. >> Commissioner Morales, 1020 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:12,320 » I. >> Commissioner Perez, 1021 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,280 » hi. >> Chairperson Condan. 1022 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:19,960 » Hi. Okay, now we will open the public 1023 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,960 hearing. 1024 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:29,520 » Good evening, commissioners. John Warren, city of Siri. I remember there 1025 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:33,760 was some discussion on the assessment and 1026 01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:40,719 the cost of doing business, landscaping and the lighting and stuff previously. 1027 01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:47,000 And there was some question as to if there was a mechanism in place to 1028 01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:47,000 collect the 1029 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:59,520 money that the that the levies or the uh city would charge the revitalization 1030 01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:04,880 board would approve for who's going to collect the uh the dollars and what 1031 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:10,560 account it would go into. And has that been resolved as to whether 1032 01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:16,320 the business downtown actually have to pay these levies 1033 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:22,560 and who collects them and what mechanism is in place to make those collections. 1034 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:27,440 » We will have staff answer that. That would be my question that I remember 1035 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:32,560 that from before that there was no mechanism to collect the revenues of the 1036 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:37,199 that were going into the fund and that some of the businesses down there are 1037 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:43,520 not paying basically their fair share which makes it hard on the ones that are 1038 01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:50,000 and also whether the city can afford to hire uh or 1039 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:56,080 have a outside agency come in and take care of the uh landscaping. being 1040 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:59,920 reverses the city staff. >> Thank you. 1041 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:04,120 Any other members of the public that would like to comment on this item? 1042 01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:13,440 » Yep. Yep. Come on up. State your name. >> I am Freedom by God above America. Um by 1043 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:17,040 Brown Act. I don't need to tell you my name. Okay. 1044 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:23,760 » So, I'm using a fictitious name. Um, since I'm here, um, I just want to share 1045 01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:27,600 with you that if I were ever going to want to come to seriesir and I did a 1046 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:32,639 little bit of a research on your city, you are a very young city. The average 1047 01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:39,440 age of your community is about 30ome years old. So, um there's a lot of um 1048 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:46,239 activities that perhaps uh you can provide for the families to come because 1049 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:51,920 uh once you revital lies your downtown, you still want people to come, right? So 1050 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:57,440 I think uh like what you were talking about and by the way I really respect 1051 01:34:53,760 --> 01:35:04,400 and admire uh that you pointed out uh at the previous meeting that the order of 1052 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:11,360 that particular um agendaized item was done in a backwards way. So I feel that 1053 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:15,600 uh this topic also when you want to revitalize and I was hoping to hear your 1054 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:22,320 objectives um perhaps those need to be pinpointed 1055 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:27,280 first and then um you know it's easier then for the public to be able to 1056 01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:30,960 participate because then we know oh they have revitalized certain things and then 1057 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:36,639 we can come and spend money and that's how you are able to get more of tax 1058 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:43,600 dollars because we spend money and that therefore uh the revitalization is not 1059 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:47,600 just a point in time but it will be uh perpetual. Thank you. 1060 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:54,280 » Thank you. Anybody else for public comment? 1061 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:54,280 » All right. Anybody on Zoom? 1062 01:35:54,480 --> 01:36:00,000 » No hands raised. >> Okay. Bring it go ahead and close the 1063 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:05,040 public uh hearing process and bring it back to the commission for action. 1064 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:10,840 Um Julian, can we answer Mr. Warren's question as far as is there something 1065 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,840 set up to collect the levy. 1066 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:21,040 » So we are looking at utilizing um HDL who does the quarterly mil tax. 1067 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:27,520 So it would be linked to their quarterly mil tax to ensure that the businesses 1068 01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:32,320 are submitting their quarterly assessments. 1069 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:36,880 um where before our third party collector was not doing their due 1070 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:42,320 diligence. So we would do have something in place. 1071 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:45,320 » Okay. Any other questions of uh the commission? 1072 01:36:48,480 --> 01:36:53,600 An action is required. Correct. This goes back to the city council. 1073 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:59,520 » That is correct. is just to accept the annual plan and then for it to go to 1074 01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:04,800 city council for approval for the annual uh report and then for them to set a 1075 01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:10,880 public hearing 30 days from that for a levy assessment 1076 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:19,480 which will be uh a public hearing noted and each business will have a letter 1077 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:19,480 sent to them for that public hearing. 1078 01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:25,400 I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve. 1079 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:31,880 » Go ahead and second. >> Okay, we got a first and a second. Can 1080 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,880 we get a roll call? 1081 01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:36,880 » Commissioner Global >> I. 1082 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:38,800 » Commissioner Morales. >> I. 1083 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,639 » Commissioner Perez. >> I. 1084 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:46,400 » Chairperson Condent. >> Hi. 1085 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:51,040 » Motion passes 4 Z with one absent. >> Okay. New business none. And we will 1086 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:54,239 adjourn the series downtown revitalization area