1 00:00:00,028 --> 00:00:04,071 Economic Development Corporation to order. Let the record float. Let the record reflect 2 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:10,055 that today is Tuesday, September 22nd, and it is 6 o'clock straight up. Um, Janice, 3 00:00:10,068 --> 00:00:15,005 would you please do the indication? Yes, sir. Our most gracious heavenly Father. 4 00:00:17,025 --> 00:00:23,033 We thank you for the privilege of living in a free country. We know there are people 5 00:00:23,033 --> 00:00:29,056 all over our country today that are hurting, and we ask you to look into their situations 6 00:00:29,058 --> 00:00:34,069 and provide your special care that only you can give them. I we ask you for your 7 00:00:35,014 --> 00:00:41,061 guidance this evening as we go through our meeting. We need your wisdom We thank 8 00:00:41,061 --> 00:00:47,098 you for each person here that is willing to serve, to serve our city, to look forward 9 00:00:47,098 --> 00:00:52,013 to a better future for our city. In your name I pray. Amen. 10 00:00:54,072 --> 00:00:55,024 Welcome. 11 00:00:57,089 --> 00:01:04,032 Brian Bursano here. Matthew Berry here. Troy Forbus here. Amanda Saler here. Jean 12 00:01:04,032 --> 00:01:11,052 Geiger here. Janice Lunford, Dustin Efferson here. We have a quorum. OK, um, does 13 00:01:11,052 --> 00:01:15,036 anybody have any agenda changes that they wanna speak on or make? 14 00:01:17,059 --> 00:01:21,098 OK. All right. Moving on to the visitors and citizens forum. Um, tonight, we have 15 00:01:21,098 --> 00:01:26,003 Francisco Lopez that agreed to or asked to sign up and speak if you want to get in 16 00:01:26,003 --> 00:01:27,014 front of the microphone. 17 00:01:30,004 --> 00:01:36,043 Oh, nice to meet you everyone. My name is Francisco Lopez, uh. Well, I'm going to 18 00:01:36,043 --> 00:01:44,017 the states uh like. 2019, 20 years ago. I graduated from 19 00:01:44,019 --> 00:01:51,095 John Tyler. Uh Don't tell her anymore. Um, I graduated, uh, with a finance 20 00:01:51,095 --> 00:01:58,062 degree from youth Title, and then I'm currently working at Radio Texas Capital Corporation 21 00:01:58,092 --> 00:02:05,027 and Lending Avenue. Both are commercial lending institutions. Uh, we primarily deal 22 00:02:05,027 --> 00:02:12,083 with the SBA. We have F 4 program which is a, a real estate only and 780s that we 23 00:02:12,083 --> 00:02:20,007 can, we can do various things for capital and, uh, inventory and other. And then 24 00:02:20,085 --> 00:02:25,092 on the landing down inside, uh we do uh commercial lending but in a smaller scale. 25 00:02:27,038 --> 00:02:29,002 And, and that's uh. 26 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,015 It means that for, it's for any type of uh working capital as well as equipment or 27 00:02:37,015 --> 00:02:45,012 whatever you think the, the business needs. Um Both institutions have Uh, board 28 00:02:45,012 --> 00:02:51,011 of directors and, and the board of directors I, I have worked with. Alicia and Burton 29 00:02:51,088 --> 00:02:59,084 and She's uh she works for Marshall DBC. We have had projects uh with other ETCs 30 00:02:59,084 --> 00:03:06,091 like White Oak and we have worked with them to. Uh, make the, make the loans happen 31 00:03:06,091 --> 00:03:12,027 and create more, more jobs and grow, grow those, uh, areas. 32 00:03:17,012 --> 00:03:23,047 And I moved to Chandler a couple of years ago to, um, I think it's called River Olds, 33 00:03:23,008 --> 00:03:30,069 yeah, um. I like the city. I like, uh, I got used to the, to the tribe. Uh, 34 00:03:30,099 --> 00:03:32,024 I worked downtown Tiger. 35 00:03:35,036 --> 00:03:42,017 But it's, it's more calm and I like it. I've been liking the city. Now I would like, 36 00:03:42,028 --> 00:03:50,005 like to have the opportunity to participate and uh. And See if you can um 37 00:03:51,033 --> 00:03:55,066 Use some bones. Um Yes. 38 00:03:58,019 --> 00:03:59,043 And any questions? 39 00:04:01,045 --> 00:04:08,083 Do you have any questions or? No, thank you for thank you appreciate it. OK, that 40 00:04:08,083 --> 00:04:13,007 was, that ends the visitor's form. Now we'll move into the regular session. Um, consider 41 00:04:13,007 --> 00:04:16,091 an act on adjusting the salaries for the EDC Director Rick Ford and Assistant Jill 42 00:04:16,096 --> 00:04:22,059 Seal. Um, I think last, last meeting, we had kind of an intent and it got lost a 43 00:04:22,059 --> 00:04:29,024 little bit in translation and, um, trying to kind of uh correct that and make sure 44 00:04:29,024 --> 00:04:33,031 that it was clear for payroll and all that. I think we had to, because it wasn't 45 00:04:33,031 --> 00:04:38,097 in the motion, we had to redo it again today. Um, if memory serves you guys, correct 46 00:04:38,097 --> 00:04:46,028 me if I'm wrong, I think our intent was, uh, a, a 10% raise for Rick and a $1 raise 47 00:04:46,028 --> 00:04:47,005 for Jill. 48 00:04:49,061 --> 00:04:51,008 Is that what everybody remembers? No. 49 00:04:53,095 --> 00:04:59,017 I'm sorry, no, OK. It was 5% for Jill. 50 00:05:01,045 --> 00:05:07,065 As I remember That was the motion that he made, but I think that that was not what 51 00:05:07,065 --> 00:05:13,003 we had discussed as a board in our executive session. OK. 52 00:05:16,002 --> 00:05:22,052 I remember talking about $1 for deal and 10% for Rick. In when we were in our meeting, 53 00:05:22,072 --> 00:05:27,048 OK, I missed a spot. Didn't it kind of even out though to be the very same thing 54 00:05:27,048 --> 00:05:33,034 really when we were looking at 5% and then looked at the dollar Rick's did, but Jill's 55 00:05:33,034 --> 00:05:38,012 didn't. Oh, correct. That was the one that didn't even out on the percentage. Rick's 56 00:05:38,012 --> 00:05:44,017 was, I think, good. It was, it was Jill's right, because we did Rick's for 2 years 57 00:05:44,096 --> 00:05:46,041 that bumped it to 10, yeah. 58 00:05:50,002 --> 00:05:54,035 So we do need to make a motion to correct it for the record so that it can be implemented 59 00:05:54,035 --> 00:06:00,094 into so the motion would be. Uh, Rick's increase is 10% and Jill's would be $1 per 60 00:06:00,094 --> 00:06:06,009 hour, correct? Yes, that's the motion I make. A second motion made by Troy Forbus, 61 00:06:06,099 --> 00:06:13,045 seconded by Dustin Epperson. All those in favor. OK, motion passes. OK. Second, uh, 62 00:06:13,071 --> 00:06:17,014 consider and act on recommending appointments of the three EDC board seats for the 63 00:06:17,014 --> 00:06:23,054 next two years beginning October 1st of 26. Uh, y'all have the, uh, copies of all 64 00:06:23,054 --> 00:06:29,098 the applications. Uh, I believe Amanda spoke with, uh, Patrick this afternoon, and 65 00:06:29,098 --> 00:06:34,022 he appreciates, but he's not interested at this time. I left a voicemail. He did 66 00:06:34,037 --> 00:06:38,017 write. We missed each other in the past and he did leave a voicemail that he wants 67 00:06:38,017 --> 00:06:41,029 to be considered in the future, but as of right now, now is not the time. 68 00:06:43,049 --> 00:06:49,000 So we have 3 positions that are up for 2-year terms. So you have the applicants all 69 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,064 there, and so that's just up to y'all to recommend with the understanding that this 70 00:06:53,064 --> 00:06:58,002 is simply a recommendation, the council votes final approval. I have a question. 71 00:06:59,017 --> 00:07:03,009 My memory is and and our computer was down all day yesterday and I didn't get to 72 00:07:03,009 --> 00:07:10,098 go back and look. In the back of my mind, I believe that. Not the 73 00:07:10,098 --> 00:07:17,027 present council, but the former council. That it is in the code of conduct, which 74 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:23,024 is a city ordinance that somebody cannot serve on more than one board within the 75 00:07:23,024 --> 00:07:28,004 city. Does anybody else beside me remember that? I'm not sure because in the past 76 00:07:28,004 --> 00:07:35,028 the mayor, the previous mayors have served on like EDC and was also the mayor. So 77 00:07:35,028 --> 00:07:40,076 I think maybe it's changed. I'm thinking that was changed is what I'm thinking and 78 00:07:40,076 --> 00:07:45,029 I tried to call Tyler. Jordan, who I remember was the one that was discussing it, 79 00:07:45,038 --> 00:07:49,076 but with him being a fireman, naturally I could not get a hold of him. I think they 80 00:07:49,076 --> 00:07:56,073 talked about it. I don't think because you're double voting and then you'd be voting 81 00:07:56,073 --> 00:08:01,009 again and I'm sitting here saying this that I served on both boards for years, but 82 00:08:01,009 --> 00:08:06,085 I think that change. was made, but I'm not sure. Do you know? I mean, I don't know 83 00:08:06,085 --> 00:08:10,029 for sure. I don't know if it's an ordinance or not. I know, I know they talked about 84 00:08:10,029 --> 00:08:13,096 it and they suggested it's not a good idea, but you know, I don't know. Yeah, I think 85 00:08:13,098 --> 00:08:18,033 Tyler just said he didn't think it was a good idea to do it, but I don't think they 86 00:08:18,033 --> 00:08:26,009 voted on it. But if, if we elect somebody that is on the Counsel 87 00:08:27,004 --> 00:08:32,046 And we go back and find that that is right within those code of conduct ordinance, 88 00:08:32,079 --> 00:08:37,061 then do we remove that person, replace and replace them with someone else? 89 00:08:39,062 --> 00:08:43,043 I'd have to check. I don't want to say spagaltern on that. I see what you're saying, 90 00:08:43,053 --> 00:08:47,000 but I, I don't, I don't recall there ever being in, in an ordinance or anything or 91 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,032 make that. Like I, I remember Tyler talking about how he didn't think that was a 92 00:08:50,032 --> 00:08:55,064 good idea, but I think that was just from Facebook addressing it, and Tyler addressed 93 00:08:55,064 --> 00:09:01,006 it, but I don't think they voted on it. I'll look I will check in the morning. I'll 94 00:09:01,006 --> 00:09:03,007 check in the morning for you. Rick, did you speak with or have any communication 95 00:09:03,007 --> 00:09:07,044 with any of the applicants, new or old? I talked with 96 00:09:09,088 --> 00:09:14,068 Amanda and I spoke with Troy, I didn't speak with Troy. I spoke with Gene and I spoke 97 00:09:14,072 --> 00:09:21,007 with Francisco. Francisco, is it Francisco? Yes, OK, so we don't know about Troy, 98 00:09:21,044 --> 00:09:28,068 Gene and Amanda Milton Milton reelection, correct? Milton. I spoke with Milton, um, 99 00:09:28,084 --> 00:09:34,059 and he He thinks it's a good idea for a council member to be on. He, like he said, 100 00:09:34,068 --> 00:09:40,039 he has had, we had had that in the past, but he also is open to giving a community 101 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:46,045 member, a new person, new perspective on the board as well, so He would like to be 102 00:09:46,045 --> 00:09:49,061 considered, but he also knows that there are opportunities for us to bring someone. 103 00:09:50,047 --> 00:09:54,091 New perspective to the board, so he's also open to that too. He was very gracious 104 00:09:54,091 --> 00:10:00,098 about it. He does want to keep his name. In the, in the mix, but it's also OK with 105 00:10:00,098 --> 00:10:06,011 whatever we decide. Certainly it was nice that we had a lot of applications and we 106 00:10:06,011 --> 00:10:10,087 didn't mention MJ Crawford had an application in there too, you never heard back 107 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:14,075 from him. No, I did try to call him. I did try to reach out. I never heard back from 108 00:10:14,075 --> 00:10:20,093 him. I spoke to both Amanda and Troy just to make sure that. They wanted to. I think 109 00:10:20,093 --> 00:10:25,033 Rick had not been able to connect with Troy to confirm that he wanted to fill a full 110 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:29,025 term since you guys had both just filled vacancies. Um, I think it'd be good for 111 00:10:29,025 --> 00:10:33,045 everybody to kind of give comments, their thoughts, um, and or anybody that's here 112 00:10:33,045 --> 00:10:38,045 that wants to, uh, speak on behalf of themselves that they've applied. Who first? 113 00:10:39,037 --> 00:10:46,006 Um, I have served for 9 months now. I really have enjoyed it. I, I mean, I've told 114 00:10:46,006 --> 00:10:49,076 Rick from the very beginning that I wanted to be involved in the community. I do 115 00:10:49,076 --> 00:10:54,016 work with lots of businesses across East Texas. This is where I thrive. I, I kinda 116 00:10:54,016 --> 00:10:58,052 helped with the Pizza Hut situation. Um, so, uh, this is my space. This is what I 117 00:10:58,052 --> 00:11:02,023 love to do, um, and I would love to continue if I have the opportunity. 118 00:11:05,006 --> 00:11:10,065 I too have been here for all of 9 months. It takes my city volunteer times on different 119 00:11:10,065 --> 00:11:15,083 committees and boards over 14 years. I'm familiar with how these situa how these 120 00:11:15,083 --> 00:11:20,037 organizations work. Uh, I've only been in Chandler for 7 years, so I'm still getting 121 00:11:20,037 --> 00:11:25,021 to learn who's who and where's what. And when they talk Platts and the city council, 122 00:11:25,026 --> 00:11:29,035 I still have to ask where, where it's actually located. I've really enjoyed being 123 00:11:29,035 --> 00:11:35,041 on the board. I'd like to think that I'm a valued member, and I've given some perspectives 124 00:11:35,071 --> 00:11:41,082 on things that may not have been clear. It's just what I do. I really like working 125 00:11:41,082 --> 00:11:45,058 with the folks here. There's nobody here that I don't like. And I think that, that 126 00:11:45,058 --> 00:11:49,056 has to do a whole lot with the, the, the energy we have here and I'd like to be a 127 00:11:49,056 --> 00:11:50,028 continued part of it. 128 00:11:53,026 --> 00:12:00,087 Jean, would you like to speak? Yeah, I. There's been some Untrue rumors circulated 129 00:12:00,087 --> 00:12:06,099 about me saying that my health was in jeopardy. Those are rumors are totally untrue. 130 00:12:09,005 --> 00:12:13,005 The other rumor. was that 131 00:12:16,009 --> 00:12:23,097 It was thought that the EDC would be better served with a new person. I 132 00:12:23,097 --> 00:12:31,081 understand that But the thing that we've got to look out for here. If we get too 133 00:12:31,081 --> 00:12:33,016 many new people on, 134 00:12:36,012 --> 00:12:43,048 It's They're not educated enough. Uh, the newer people are going to learn from the 135 00:12:43,048 --> 00:12:47,023 people that have been here a while. And 136 00:12:52,043 --> 00:12:58,035 You know, myself, I've served for a lot of years, and it has been brought to my attention 137 00:12:58,035 --> 00:12:58,076 that 138 00:13:01,012 --> 00:13:09,004 Somebody thinks I've served too long. Well, I don't Um I, 139 00:13:09,034 --> 00:13:16,071 I would. Really like to serve some more. It's, it's, it's. I enjoy this. I enjoy 140 00:13:16,071 --> 00:13:24,068 seeing. New things come to our city, new things that help our citizens. So 141 00:13:25,077 --> 00:13:32,082 I'd appreciate your support. Thank you. Matt Uh, yeah, it's, it's tough. I mean, 142 00:13:33,004 --> 00:13:36,016 we, I said, this is the first time we've really ever got to look at applications, 143 00:13:36,027 --> 00:13:41,054 uh, and there's a lot of, a lot of good ones on here. Uh, a lot of people we know, 144 00:13:41,059 --> 00:13:47,034 uh, like Francisco haven't had a chance to meet him, but according to the application, 145 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:54,083 it's very knowledgeable, brings a lot to the table. Um. So there, it's been, 146 00:13:55,025 --> 00:14:00,088 it's been neat or good to look at all these and kind of see where people are and 147 00:14:02,016 --> 00:14:09,027 Just gonna have to make our decision from there. Janice I looked at these applications. 148 00:14:10,014 --> 00:14:18,005 Um Amanda brings some unique experience with marketing to us that is 149 00:14:18,005 --> 00:14:25,096 great, would be wonderful to have. Francisco has, uh, quite a bit of financial 150 00:14:25,096 --> 00:14:33,002 knowledge that would also give us an in-depth knowledge of, of where we need to go 151 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:40,026 with that, so, uh. I do feel very strongly about those two. Dustin 152 00:14:42,066 --> 00:14:47,037 Uh, I mean, I'm with you all. The applications are great. I'm also kinda in favor 153 00:14:47,037 --> 00:14:55,012 of not having, uh, a council person be on the EDC. Um, which kind of, and there's 154 00:14:55,012 --> 00:14:58,088 some great applications, of course, Milton Patrick, and all of them are, are, and 155 00:14:58,088 --> 00:15:06,039 Angie are fantastic, but, um, I, I, I've watched Amanda. She's like she reached out 156 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:11,019 and called all those people. She did way more than what I did. Um, she's been phenomenal 157 00:15:11,019 --> 00:15:16,075 in the group and, and Francisco as well. I mean, that's an outstanding resume, done 158 00:15:16,075 --> 00:15:21,063 a lot on the financial side, and I'm in that world as myself. Um, those would be 159 00:15:21,063 --> 00:15:23,095 the two that stuck out to me. 160 00:15:27,027 --> 00:15:30,096 OK. Does anybody have any other comments? Thoughts 161 00:15:35,079 --> 00:15:43,062 So this does require a motion. And um I'm not sure. I 162 00:15:43,062 --> 00:15:49,021 think that Gene, you've been a very, very faithful and loyal servant for many years, 163 00:15:49,038 --> 00:15:55,086 not only to this EDC but also to the council and to this community. And I think that 164 00:15:55,086 --> 00:16:01,087 you do have the ability to serve again, but I also think that we as an EDC overall 165 00:16:02,015 --> 00:16:07,034 deserve to also bring in some new faces and some new people to our community to serve 166 00:16:07,034 --> 00:16:12,022 on the board. Despite being new, we all have to start somewhere. And it would be 167 00:16:12,022 --> 00:16:20,002 my overall recommendation to appoint Francisco, Troy, and Amanda. But it 168 00:16:20,002 --> 00:16:25,021 does require motion and Again, it's the counsel's question. 169 00:16:28,046 --> 00:16:33,094 Those of us that are on the board that are Possibly in the motion, I believe we should 170 00:16:33,094 --> 00:16:40,065 abstain. Because we'd be voting for ourselves. I agree with that. 171 00:16:44,097 --> 00:16:48,024 So then it would come down to just Matt, myself, Janice, and Dustin. 172 00:16:52,016 --> 00:16:53,011 Thank you for bringing that up. 173 00:16:58,087 --> 00:17:03,065 But you just mentioned two names. We have 3 positions, right? Yes, I said Francisco, 174 00:17:03,083 --> 00:17:04,094 Amanda, and Troy. 175 00:17:15,064 --> 00:17:23,035 Yeah, I'll, I'll make a motion that uh we fill the positions with Amanda Saylors, 176 00:17:23,048 --> 00:17:31,022 Troy Forbus, and uh Francisco Lopez. Motion made by Matt Berry, seconded by 177 00:17:31,022 --> 00:17:33,078 Dustin Efferson. All those in favor 178 00:17:36,074 --> 00:17:42,053 Motion passes. We appreciate your service very much, sir. No, you don't. Yes, we 179 00:17:42,053 --> 00:17:42,009 do. 180 00:17:44,026 --> 00:17:50,087 We most certainly do. Well, I'll say one more thing before I leave here. If you got 181 00:17:50,087 --> 00:17:55,099 something to say about me, say it to me, not behind my back. I said it to Eugene. 182 00:17:56,012 --> 00:17:58,006 I had a good conversation after you talked to everybody else. 183 00:18:00,038 --> 00:18:05,081 Enough said, OK. We'll move on to number 3 EDC project update. Yes, sir. Thank you. 184 00:18:06,001 --> 00:18:10,002 Uh, basically, we have two main projects going on right now. As you, as you've seen 185 00:18:10,049 --> 00:18:15,043 as of last week, uh, One Rock or Chapter 11 Ellis Limited or whatever it is now. 186 00:18:15,085 --> 00:18:20,044 Uh, yeah, stream. Uh, they have got a lot of equipment out there. They are moving 187 00:18:20,044 --> 00:18:25,012 fast. Uh, they've about got the whole front cleared now. They, the next project will 188 00:18:25,012 --> 00:18:29,076 be, if you've noted, the road going to the well is what's caused a lot of The drainage 189 00:18:29,076 --> 00:18:33,004 issues in the past and the backup and that they're gonna be working on that, getting 190 00:18:33,004 --> 00:18:37,044 that leveled out, uh, and then they will begin working initially on the deceleration 191 00:18:37,044 --> 00:18:40,055 line. They can't do a whole lot yet, but they're gonna do a little bit on that. But 192 00:18:40,055 --> 00:18:42,088 the main thing is they're gonna be bringing dirt from the back to the front. That's 193 00:18:42,088 --> 00:18:46,056 what I think you and I talked about the, looks like they cut a path toward the back 194 00:18:46,069 --> 00:18:49,003 and that's where they'll be bringing the dirt back and forth from and everything. 195 00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:53,014 So, uh, over the next couple of weeks you'll be seeing a lot of, a lot of that work. 196 00:18:53,041 --> 00:19:00,092 Uh, he, uh, plans. On bringing possibly next meeting, uh, a layout of what, uh, what 197 00:19:00,092 --> 00:19:04,075 their intents are in the next couple of months anyway. He's about got it. He's gone 198 00:19:04,075 --> 00:19:08,092 through several different plan options with the, the architects and engineers, and 199 00:19:08,092 --> 00:19:13,092 he's about got what he's wanting for the most part. And he is, he's extremely excited 200 00:19:13,092 --> 00:19:18,076 still, especially now that people see, can see actual events taking place and stuff 201 00:19:18,076 --> 00:19:24,027 like that. So, uh, as far as Jimmy Hawley. If you noticed, they've been cleaning 202 00:19:24,027 --> 00:19:28,051 out the storage buildings down there. Uh, he's about ready to, uh, demolish them. 203 00:19:28,008 --> 00:19:34,003 Uh, once that happens, uh, he's coming into PNC in October for the zoning change, 204 00:19:34,002 --> 00:19:37,071 and then he'll go to council that night also it's a special meeting for the PNZ to 205 00:19:37,071 --> 00:19:42,015 get it in there done, and then he'll be ready to start. Until he gets the zoning 206 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:45,023 changed, he can't really start doing a lot. He can clear the land, but he can't build 207 00:19:45,023 --> 00:19:47,085 anything until he gets the plans approved. He can't get the plans approved to get 208 00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:51,031 the zoning changed. So it's kind of an order like that. Now, whether he has, whether 209 00:19:51,031 --> 00:19:54,012 he brings the plans to the zoning meeting, I'm not sure. He's about got that done 210 00:19:54,012 --> 00:19:58,031 also. It's gonna be very impressive. He, he know, the people, if y'all didn't know, 211 00:19:58,047 --> 00:20:02,075 Matt Smith purchased the property right next to that, the, the building, and, uh, 212 00:20:02,088 --> 00:20:06,096 and he told me they closed on that. And so he's very good friends with, they're good 213 00:20:06,096 --> 00:20:10,002 friends with each other. They're talking about trying to do. In fact, Matt may do 214 00:20:10,004 --> 00:20:13,063 some of the work on the building for, for him, but, uh, they're talking about trying 215 00:20:13,063 --> 00:20:16,087 to maybe share a drive or something like that to where it can give a little more 216 00:20:16,087 --> 00:20:20,075 room to the back and everything. But he's very excited about that. As soon as that 217 00:20:20,075 --> 00:20:24,099 gets done, he's, he's, we'll be starting up here. We closed, as I know, last month 218 00:20:24,099 --> 00:20:29,049 on that. Uh, I've, I've actually had some people call in that won't know it's still 219 00:20:29,049 --> 00:20:34,011 for sale. It's a big sold sign that says it's not, but, uh, there, there's, there's 220 00:20:34,011 --> 00:20:40,012 some interest already on a couple of, um, Uh, uh, retail sites. So, and the, and 221 00:20:40,012 --> 00:20:42,047 the good thing about, I think I told you all before, the good thing about this is, 222 00:20:42,073 --> 00:20:46,059 this is a different type of clientele than what will be down here. These are more, 223 00:20:47,004 --> 00:20:51,098 not big box, but more Regionally known whereas this may be not more mom and pop but 224 00:20:51,098 --> 00:20:55,098 a little, a little less, uh, but we need those just as much as we need the others 225 00:20:55,098 --> 00:21:00,054 and stuff like that. So are we gonna have one of our signs made and put up in front 226 00:21:00,054 --> 00:21:04,026 of that project? Yes, well, there's already one down here. I know there's one at 227 00:21:04,026 --> 00:21:08,062 One Rock, but since this is gonna be on 31 as well, we didn't have anything to do 228 00:21:08,062 --> 00:21:13,015 with one on 31. The, the, the storage about storage buildings are you talking about? 229 00:21:13,009 --> 00:21:17,081 The tires, the tire store, we didn't have anything to do with that. He bought that 230 00:21:17,081 --> 00:21:21,093 from the, from the property owners. What he did was what happened was he was gonna 231 00:21:21,093 --> 00:21:26,061 buy ours up there, and I felt like I needed to be honest with him and tell him that 232 00:21:26,061 --> 00:21:30,036 had come available because he'd won on 31 to start with, but he liked ours so much. 233 00:21:30,046 --> 00:21:33,051 He liked what we had talked about and showed that he decided to go ahead and buy 234 00:21:33,051 --> 00:21:38,045 that also. This is gonna be strictly office retail up here. This will be, uh, tire 235 00:21:38,045 --> 00:21:43,078 store down here, commercial commercial. Thank you. Good. Has Chris said anything 236 00:21:43,078 --> 00:21:49,009 about any firm? I don't want to say commitments exactly on pads or anything for any. 237 00:21:50,004 --> 00:21:54,095 He's told me as much as he can tell me, and from what I understand, what everybody's 238 00:21:54,095 --> 00:21:58,015 been waiting on is just the dirt start moving when they see something they're ready 239 00:21:58,015 --> 00:22:05,067 to sign, but he's, I know of three spots that are about 90% firm. If we can get those, 240 00:22:05,072 --> 00:22:10,011 then we're, we're doing very well. How many pads? How many pads are you talking about 241 00:22:10,011 --> 00:22:14,031 for the full project? He's, well, originally he had, I think, 9, but now that they're 242 00:22:14,031 --> 00:22:18,071 working to get, I think I told y'all in one of my emails to y'all that the wetlands 243 00:22:18,071 --> 00:22:23,019 can now be taken out due to a Supreme Court ruling. So they're working and they'll 244 00:22:23,019 --> 00:22:26,091 be able to double the size on the front of each property. So that'll open up at least 245 00:22:26,091 --> 00:22:31,057 3 more pad sites down there plus the whole back. He envisions. He bought another 246 00:22:31,057 --> 00:22:36,092 15 acres in addition to the 38, so what he thinks as well as it's going, he hopes 247 00:22:37,002 --> 00:22:41,014 that he'll be able to do like a mirror on the on the east west side like he's doing 248 00:22:41,014 --> 00:22:47,001 on the east side. Two ponds slash lakes. OK. We're going to have an amphitheater 249 00:22:47,001 --> 00:22:50,053 on one. We're going to have, I know he's still working on the amphitheater on the 250 00:22:50,053 --> 00:22:55,003 main one, so he's going to take one at a time, obviously. So, um, but you know that's 251 00:22:55,014 --> 00:22:59,005 if things go as hoped, then that's in the possible plans in the future. I'm kind 252 00:22:59,005 --> 00:23:05,025 of curious about the improvement to the city of Chandler amenities as well as business. 253 00:23:06,003 --> 00:23:10,004 He, uh, you, you've talked to him as much as I have pretty much. I mean, you, I don't 254 00:23:10,004 --> 00:23:13,002 know if you want to say anything about it, but I haven't gotten any, I mean, a lot 255 00:23:13,002 --> 00:23:16,096 of interest, but not anything. I think some things, I mean, as far as like the amenities 256 00:23:16,096 --> 00:23:21,065 and stuff like that, he, he, he envisions a downtown, not maybe downtown district 257 00:23:21,065 --> 00:23:25,056 where a lot of walkability. He keeps using walkability and stuff like that where 258 00:23:25,056 --> 00:23:29,004 you can walk from your where you work to a place to eat or something like that, you 259 00:23:29,004 --> 00:23:34,089 know, uh, what you'd like to have, and again this is. Not, not dreaming, but I mean 260 00:23:34,089 --> 00:23:39,006 it's, it's on paper, but it's not fully done yet. He, he likes the idea of like a 261 00:23:39,006 --> 00:23:43,016 boardwalk or something around the pond. It's, it's really a lake. It's not a pond, 262 00:23:43,041 --> 00:23:47,012 you know, with amphitheater and maybe restaurants overlooking that and everything, 263 00:23:47,025 --> 00:23:54,079 so. Any chance of a road extension from the uh new center to Sawmill Road? 264 00:23:55,073 --> 00:24:00,008 Uh, working on that, one thing that we're waiting on is, um, Henderson County has 265 00:24:00,008 --> 00:24:06,052 applied to be part of the net RMA, and you have to join with another county, and 266 00:24:06,052 --> 00:24:11,084 I, I can't, whatever county is it Marion County that's Jefferson, is that OK. Marion 267 00:24:11,084 --> 00:24:17,033 County met last night, another meeting. The 28th is that next Monday night to vote 268 00:24:17,059 --> 00:24:21,026 and and all indications say they are and when that happens we can officially join. 269 00:24:21,055 --> 00:24:25,049 There are tremendous amounts of grants and matching grants that do studies for us 270 00:24:25,083 --> 00:24:30,006 to, uh, you know, the best place to put something, but what, what we've talked initially 271 00:24:30,006 --> 00:24:35,009 about the possibility of bringing somehow, uh, Otala Road around and connecting into 272 00:24:35,009 --> 00:24:40,058 the boulevard that goes to the main entrance of the, of the, of the project. The, 273 00:24:40,067 --> 00:24:46,066 the, there will be a, a boulevard main thing going. He's still, you know, given the 274 00:24:46,066 --> 00:24:50,006 option to the city to move down there if they would like, you know, no rush or no, 275 00:24:50,019 --> 00:24:56,002 no pressure or anything like that, but that is a possibility. So have we heard anything 276 00:24:56,022 --> 00:25:01,017 from the guy that bought the property for the subway? No, uh, Mike Wilson is a good 277 00:25:01,017 --> 00:25:05,061 friend. He plays tennis with him, and the last we heard was he is still very interested. 278 00:25:05,007 --> 00:25:08,085 He was waiting for the interest rates to come down. The economy is not quite what 279 00:25:08,085 --> 00:25:14,037 he's hoping for right now, and he at the time was, he opened a subway over by UT 280 00:25:14,037 --> 00:25:19,077 Tower, and so that a lot of his money and investments went that way. And as far as 281 00:25:19,077 --> 00:25:23,061 future, he, he does, the last I heard was he does still plan to, to build here, OK, 282 00:25:23,097 --> 00:25:30,033 so. And what about uh update on Silver Line? They are still trying. We, they had 283 00:25:30,033 --> 00:25:35,053 a potential purchase buyer for that, and the problem was he needed the lot next to 284 00:25:35,053 --> 00:25:38,099 the lot that we got by auction to make it work. He was trying to make the whole thing 285 00:25:38,099 --> 00:25:44,029 work well. The, the, he has the same issue we had. We had to wait 2 years after we 286 00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:49,005 got it from, um. Bankrupt court, not, uh, where the courthouse, what do you, I'm 287 00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:53,038 sorry, I lost my train of thought. Yeah, foreclosure sale. You can buy we bought 288 00:25:53,038 --> 00:25:57,006 ours, but technically we couldn't, you could build on it, but the original owner 289 00:25:57,006 --> 00:26:00,046 had 2 years to come back and pay the back taxes and take the property back. He didn't 290 00:26:00,046 --> 00:26:03,078 want to wait 2 years because he could not find the owner. He was trying to find the 291 00:26:03,078 --> 00:26:07,006 owner to see if they could purchase it outright, could not find the owner. I mean, 292 00:26:07,015 --> 00:26:12,009 that is. So convoluted down there there's 20 heirs to each lot almost down there 293 00:26:12,026 --> 00:26:16,069 and so, uh, he, he backed out. What he's doing is he's buying the property that he's 294 00:26:16,069 --> 00:26:21,001 in now and he's gonna open that property there. Silver Line, uh, is kind of they've, 295 00:26:21,026 --> 00:26:23,071 they've been kind of back and forth trying to figure out what they're gonna do. So 296 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:26,069 it's they're talking about putting it, they asked us if we wanted to buy it back 297 00:26:26,069 --> 00:26:32,061 at the cost that we, and I said no, it's not probably not, you know, so, um. They're, 298 00:26:32,066 --> 00:26:36,057 they're kind of up in there holding. They're still, their plans were to expand to 299 00:26:36,057 --> 00:26:40,005 other cities and stuff like that. I don't know how far that is. I kind of lost track 300 00:26:40,005 --> 00:26:42,085 on what they are. They haven't talked a lot about that, so I don't want to push them 301 00:26:42,085 --> 00:26:48,009 on anything. So, but they've got a good deal going and everything. If the ADC can 302 00:26:48,009 --> 00:26:55,013 get that other lot, which is a possibility in the next probably 6 or 8 months, it 303 00:26:55,013 --> 00:27:00,013 would make it much more the abandoned lot because you got a T right now. Yeah, it's 304 00:27:00,013 --> 00:27:05,011 not really abandoned, it's just unclaimed more than anything, but there, it has to, 305 00:27:05,022 --> 00:27:10,057 the city can't force them to auction, but the school board can. The school district 306 00:27:10,057 --> 00:27:14,076 can. So that's what they're waiting on because it has to be a certain length of time 307 00:27:14,076 --> 00:27:19,004 passed when taxes aren't paid before they can force that auction. You got to wait 308 00:27:19,004 --> 00:27:23,076 for the music to get around to that part of the dance. And the problem was they hadn't 309 00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:26,064 paid taxes in many years, but they just put it back on the roll, did they? Or not 310 00:27:26,064 --> 00:27:31,054 the roll, but they just showed as delinquent. They finally named an owner, and then 311 00:27:31,054 --> 00:27:35,036 they don't have an address, but they're sending bills, so the odds of it getting 312 00:27:35,036 --> 00:27:40,006 paid are pretty slim if it's not going anywhere. So, but it's gonna be, I think they 313 00:27:40,006 --> 00:27:44,058 said October. October that's when they had that this coming October is the end of 314 00:27:44,058 --> 00:27:48,009 that period. Um, it's when they can file suit, I believe, but it's probably gonna 315 00:27:48,009 --> 00:27:51,009 be May. It's probably not gonna be October. So I think the school district is still 316 00:27:51,009 --> 00:27:57,046 with Liinberger. Yes, yes, um, so is that something that we need to go and advocate 317 00:27:57,046 --> 00:28:01,058 for them to move forward with that? I would simply because we own the lot next to 318 00:28:01,058 --> 00:28:06,076 that and like. There's no point in somebody buying our lot unless they get the other, 319 00:28:06,085 --> 00:28:10,092 the other lots, you know. And now Silver I was gonna do it like that, but like this 320 00:28:10,092 --> 00:28:13,096 other guy that was gonna buy, he wanted the whole thing to make it more square. He 321 00:28:13,096 --> 00:28:18,002 needed the back part also, and one lot is not enough, so we don't get landlocked 322 00:28:18,002 --> 00:28:22,000 because if somebody were to buy just the front and not ours, then we're, we're landlocked, 323 00:28:22,029 --> 00:28:27,016 you know, you know Jim Lambeth. He's, he's, he's got a reminder on his calendar. 324 00:28:27,037 --> 00:28:33,076 Oh, he does, OK. So once we get Being optimistic here once we get control of the 325 00:28:33,082 --> 00:28:38,094 front lot, that makes that entire property more feasible. No, the back lot, the back 326 00:28:38,094 --> 00:28:43,011 lot, yeah, we own the Silver Lion owns the front three lots. We sell those to Silver 327 00:28:43,011 --> 00:28:48,045 Line, and then we have the back middle lot from an auction. We actually had the lot 328 00:28:48,045 --> 00:28:52,041 where the parking lot is, where the museum is. We got that from an auction also, 329 00:28:52,062 --> 00:28:57,061 but we donated that to the city for the parking for the, for that. So, so right now 330 00:28:57,061 --> 00:29:01,082 it's a T. We own the back lots, Silver. He owns the front lot. We don't know who 331 00:29:01,082 --> 00:29:06,079 owns the lot to. We want the abandoned lot. Yes, OK, thank you. So if he can do that, 332 00:29:07,007 --> 00:29:10,077 then he would buy all. He would have bought all. It's more attractive like just someone 333 00:29:11,001 --> 00:29:15,006 will. Someone. Oh, someone definitely will. So it, it would probably be good if we 334 00:29:15,006 --> 00:29:19,033 could buy that to just add it to ours. So if somebody ever does buy the front lot 335 00:29:19,035 --> 00:29:23,038 or if somebody decides to keep it or whatever, then it makes ours a lot more attractive 336 00:29:23,038 --> 00:29:25,007 in the back. We need to buy that lot, yes. 337 00:29:27,044 --> 00:29:31,011 So Joe, you said it's on his calendar like he's going to propose to the board to 338 00:29:31,011 --> 00:29:34,039 move forward, but yes, but he does not think it will happen. He said it could happen 339 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:40,013 in October, November, but it's most likely to happen in May. OK, so the latest will 340 00:29:40,015 --> 00:29:45,092 be May. The latest is May. Maybe at this point the last information I got from him, 341 00:29:46,001 --> 00:29:50,049 yes, and he definitely is on top of it. And well, his, his actually his assistant 342 00:29:50,049 --> 00:29:55,021 is on top of it. So, so it's just him trying to get it on the school board's agenda. 343 00:29:56,041 --> 00:30:00,008 I mean it's just on their list I guess is the best way that I don't know how all 344 00:30:00,008 --> 00:30:04,064 that the specifics I wonder if we can get moved up on their agenda. Well, it's not 345 00:30:04,064 --> 00:30:08,033 a matter of the agenda, it's a matter of the timing. Yeah, it has to be. It's a timing 346 00:30:08,033 --> 00:30:14,045 issue, not a yeah. And then still when we get it, it's not going to have a clear 347 00:30:14,045 --> 00:30:18,029 date. It'll be 2 years from then until we can get a clear date to it. And that's 348 00:30:18,029 --> 00:30:22,093 what this previous potential buyer before didn't want to wait 2 years to move now. 349 00:30:23,001 --> 00:30:26,085 So and the 2 years is only when the deed transfers. It doesn't like, it's not like 350 00:30:26,009 --> 00:30:32,033 2 years from when they file the suit or whatever. It's once the deeds over. So let's 351 00:30:32,033 --> 00:30:37,007 say we pick it up in May. We have 2 years from May before we can honestly do anything 352 00:30:37,009 --> 00:30:41,028 with it. Well, you can do something with it. You just take the risk of someone coming 353 00:30:41,028 --> 00:30:44,064 in and paying the back taxes and getting the property back. Would you build on something 354 00:30:44,064 --> 00:30:48,071 that somebody could come pay the back taxes on, not on a bad day. Do they have to 355 00:30:48,073 --> 00:30:52,064 pay for the improvements also? They have to pay for improvements. I'm pretty sure 356 00:30:52,064 --> 00:30:58,024 they've got it. There's some, there's some, it's not just the taxes. I think they 357 00:30:58,024 --> 00:31:02,028 have to pay for the improvements, and they have to pay like, say we bought it or 358 00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:05,056 something like that, that acreage we bought. If someone came in and paid the back 359 00:31:05,056 --> 00:31:08,096 taxes, they have to pay us interest and stuff like that back also for the, and then 360 00:31:08,096 --> 00:31:12,071 I think if you build a building or something, they also have to, right, yeah, yeah, 361 00:31:13,077 --> 00:31:18,002 fair market value. So chances are pretty slim, but you can't build. The problem was 362 00:31:18,002 --> 00:31:21,016 they didn't want to buy the property and build half the building on the back lot 363 00:31:21,016 --> 00:31:24,016 and half on the front lot, you know, that it just, and that's kind of how they were 364 00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:27,044 looking at doing it. And so the park's gonna go into the lot. Dustin would, would 365 00:31:27,044 --> 00:31:31,076 like a lender have a problem with that type of a deed from a, from a funding perspective. 366 00:31:32,005 --> 00:31:37,053 No, I mean you would just wanna make sure that if they're gonna go in and like Matt 367 00:31:37,053 --> 00:31:41,047 said do the improvements they're gonna do them quickly because if they do them at 368 00:31:41,047 --> 00:31:46,001 one spot and they go in and say we wanna pay the back taxes then you kind of shut 369 00:31:46,001 --> 00:31:52,005 down the project at that point so you, you wanna go in and. Get it put up, OK, but 370 00:31:52,005 --> 00:31:55,037 if we bought the property, the 2 years would start then, even if we were to sell 371 00:31:55,037 --> 00:31:58,085 it to somebody else. Yes, yes, yes, it started at that initial initial when we get 372 00:31:58,085 --> 00:32:03,013 it from the, from the auction, that's, that's when it starts. But even if someone 373 00:32:03,013 --> 00:32:07,033 built their building on this side of the T, right, and they were just gonna use parking 374 00:32:07,033 --> 00:32:11,089 on this side, then you could do that. I mean, but you could, yeah, they could at 375 00:32:11,089 --> 00:32:16,005 that time come in and just pay for the back taxes and then take that lot back over. 376 00:32:17,002 --> 00:32:22,054 Need to put in something really expensive over there quick. Yes, yeah, not just a 377 00:32:22,054 --> 00:32:26,034 parking lot or fencing, and, but that is something y'all we need to think about because 378 00:32:26,034 --> 00:32:29,009 that is something it would, it would enhance the lot that we have now that we own. 379 00:32:30,003 --> 00:32:33,007 So we should buy it regardless because if someone else does and wastes the two years, 380 00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:38,042 then we're just landlocked on our lot and then they can get whatever price they want 381 00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:42,012 from us because it's we can't use it for anything else. We just sell it for nothing 382 00:32:42,012 --> 00:32:46,012 unless we donate to the museum, unless we donate. But the two years on what we have 383 00:32:46,012 --> 00:32:49,008 or what is down there is already, yeah, it's gone. We bought it in 24 and it went 384 00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:55,018 out. It went out in October or November, I think, yeah, so, OK, we're good. Uh, one 385 00:32:55,018 --> 00:32:59,011 final update, just, uh, Rick and I met with, uh, Tom Mullins last week just to kind 386 00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:03,066 of, just a little bit of a catch up project. There, there is gonna be some opportunity 387 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:10,083 to the point of the net RMA, um, if we join after Marion County does, then we potentially 388 00:33:10,083 --> 00:33:18,034 would be able to, um, access some grant money. That might be able to do a um a traffic 389 00:33:18,034 --> 00:33:24,057 study or some other things that Net RMA is willing to fund which would also be beneficial 390 00:33:24,057 --> 00:33:30,013 for the city um and so we're kind of trying to time a little bit of hopefully Marion 391 00:33:30,013 --> 00:33:34,037 gets on the agenda they, they do it and then we can follow suit and we already have 392 00:33:34,037 --> 00:33:41,009 some pretty decent contacts at Net RMA already that we can sit with to kind of apply 393 00:33:41,009 --> 00:33:45,034 for the funding and get them to support us doing that. We're just waiting for Marion 394 00:33:45,034 --> 00:33:48,025 County because I, I called and talked to them, and they said, I said, is there anything 395 00:33:48,025 --> 00:33:51,034 we can do to get started in the meantime? And they said, unfortunately we're, we're 396 00:33:51,034 --> 00:33:55,053 kind of in a standstill just waiting for that. So we are talking to some people about, 397 00:33:55,063 --> 00:34:00,000 uh, putting the committee together to, to do a study from our end as far as what 398 00:34:00,047 --> 00:34:03,046 the direction we'd like Chandler to go, and then we'll get with them that RMA and 399 00:34:03,046 --> 00:34:06,086 go from there, which was part of the strategic plan that started this work if y'all, 400 00:34:06,099 --> 00:34:12,021 yeah, that's a big part of the strategic plan if y'all remember, yeah. Any other 401 00:34:12,021 --> 00:34:17,017 questions on projects? OK, uh, consent agenda. Everybody got the consent agenda. 402 00:34:17,026 --> 00:34:22,013 Does anybody have any questions? Otherwise, I would entertain a motion to approve 403 00:34:22,013 --> 00:34:28,029 the consent agenda as presented. I move that we accept the consent agenda as presented. 404 00:34:28,046 --> 00:34:32,003 OK, motion made by Jenny Linsford, seconded by Dustin Epperson. All those in favor. 405 00:34:35,056 --> 00:34:42,082 Am I still here? Yes sir. OK. All right, um, I think everybody is aware if they're 406 00:34:42,082 --> 00:34:49,058 not that, um, sadly, um, Jill's last day with the EDC is next Tuesday, um, and so 407 00:34:49,058 --> 00:34:54,006 we have something to show our appreciation. You better like him because I looked 408 00:34:54,006 --> 00:34:58,065 everywhere. You, you did it. Oh, aren't they pretty? 409 00:35:00,072 --> 00:35:06,015 There's one kind of hanging over there, but Jill, thank you. You have been fantastic 410 00:35:06,002 --> 00:35:07,074 to work with and 411 00:35:11,004 --> 00:35:15,079 I'm very sad that you are leaving. Thank you very much. You are not alone in that 412 00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:21,087 123456789 of us in this room that are very sad to see her go. Thank you. It's very 413 00:35:21,087 --> 00:35:28,006 sweet. We appreciate the emails that you sent to us and make sure everything is What 414 00:35:28,006 --> 00:35:34,000 we need. Well, so thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Don't cry. Don't cry. All 415 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,041 right, with that, uh, I will call this meeting adjourned. At 6:37.