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Good evening. Today is August 10, 2026, and I call this Chan Hassen City Council meeting to order. Ladies and gentlemen, will you please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, individual, liberty, and justice are all.

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Good evening again, everyone. Thank you for joining us tonight for the record. We have four council members present with

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with Councilwoman Schubert absent.

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Our first action is our agenda approval.

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Council members, are there any modifications

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to the agenda as printed?

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All right, we will move forward with the published agenda.

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We have two public announcements this evening

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and the first one is, well, they're both very exciting,

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but the first one is to recognize

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our incredible communications team.

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So I'd like to share and celebrate

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Our communications team, the Northern Lights Contest, which is conducted annually by the Minnesota Association of Government Communicators,

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recognizes outstanding work in Minnesota's Government, Educational, and Nonprofit Communications.

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This year at the annual conference, which took place on July 15th, the city of Chan Hassan Communications Team was awarded

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six Northern Lights Awards, which is wildly impressive.

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I'd like to share what they won these awards for.

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They won two gold awards and four silver awards.

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The gold awards, and I'm sure many of you that follow this closely

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are familiar with a lot of the work that they do.

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The first gold award was for their video, and it had to do with the

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long acres neighborhood where they were helping the Chanhasen Fire Department collect toys.

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The second gold award was for an interview talk show or news magazine and that was for

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the Chan check-in that continues to grow in popularity.

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Just love following that and then four silver awards.

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So there was a silver award for publication for the Chanhasen connection.

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Silver Award for video for the Recycler, I'm sure he's in disguise tonight, so you may or may not know who he is, but for the Recycler series.

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There was a Silver Award for the Communications Campaign on behalf of the new City Hall Public Open House, and the last one was for creative achievement for graphic design on our downtown banners.

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And we all know at the city how much we appreciate the time and effort that it goes into

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filming and preparing and just making sure that all of our residents there you are Sarah.

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Making sure that all of our residents feel engaged and we are so proud of you, Patrick,

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Drew and Sarah of the great work that you do.

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But we realize that a community that feels informed and knows what's happening in the

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community is a community that feels connected so really appreciate the work that you do

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congratulations and very deserving of all six of these awards so congratulations to all of you

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and then we would like to bring you up front to recognize all of you so Patrick, Drew, and Sarah

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congratulations.

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Public announcement is an invitation to Chan Hassan Community Day. Chan Hassan Community

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will be held on Saturday, August 15th, so the Saturday at the Rec Center, which will offer free activities from nine until

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Noon, and it is free admission all day. The event includes triad classes, kids sports, craft stations, a community shred event, which is always popular, a hockey shot, speed challenge, sponsored by the Chan Chaska Hockey Association. Chan Hassan Library is bringing their story walk and a touch, a truck experience featuring Chan Hassan Fire Department trucks, Carver County Sheriff's Office, Ridgeview Paramedic, Parks and Recreation.

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Public Works and Southwest Prime.

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This day offers residents an opportunity to explore city programs, community partners,

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and connect with neighbors, and a full schedule of these events and

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activity is on our website.

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And a special thanks to all participating agencies and

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partners for their support in making this event possible.

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So we hope to see as many of you there as possible this coming Saturday from 9 to noon.

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Next up on our agenda tonight is the consent agenda.

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Tonight we have consent agenda items D1 through D18.

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All items listed under the consent agenda are considered to be routine by the city council

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and will be recorded as a single motion based on staff recommendation.

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There will be no separate discussion of these items.

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Are there any items that the council would like to consider separately?

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If not, may I get a motion to approve consent agenda items D1 through D18.

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Madam Mayor, I'll make the motion to approve consent agenda items D1 through D18.

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Thank you, Councilman McDonnell, does there a second?

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Second.

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Thank you, Councilman Kimber.

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We have a valid motion in a second.

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All those in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

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Those opposed, nay.

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That motion carries 4-0.

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Next, we have visitor presentations and visitor presentations are included with each of our regularly scheduled council meetings.

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Anyone wishing to address a council on a matter that is not on the agenda tonight may step to the podium.

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Please provide your name and address for the record and then please address the city council.

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You will have five minutes to present your item.

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If your request includes an action item from either staff or council, we ask that you complete a citizen action request form.

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However, if you are simply making a comment with no required action, a form does not need to be completed.

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But please know that we do not take items that are brought forward.

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We do not take them up during the visitor presentations that are meeting tonight,

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which means that there will be no separate discussion or engagement of the items that are brought forward.

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If it is requested in your comments, city staff will follow up with you with next steps or information.

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We have two scheduled visitor presentations tonight. I will invite Valla up first.

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I saw him earlier. There he is.

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Thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts on purpose, strategy, how China has

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some values, targeted innovation to create high-paying jobs for our residents and help

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the manufacturing strength, our country has steadily lost for the past four decades.

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Number one, why innovation and why now? Since 1980s, the United States has lost millions

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of manufacturing jobs. Today, we have a historic opportunity to bring them back, not the

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all the manufacturing of the fast but advanced technology driven manufacturing that is clean

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capacity to and high-plane.

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We have a highly educated workforce, strong infrastructure and proximity to the Twin

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Cities Innovation Ecosystem.

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If we act now, we can attract industries that are unstable, high-well jobs and long-term

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1, economy, vigilance, 2, high impact innovation sectors, the following three sectors stand

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out as the most effective for job creation and modern manufacturing.

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Number one, advance in manufacturing and to put it, modern factories you

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Local government meeting, motion, second, aye, nay, abstain, quorum,

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for next generation manufacturing. Number two, clean energy and climate technology.

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Minnesota's climate means high energy demand, clean energy systems, solar, free pump,

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microwaves and energy storage. It is hard for households and business owners.

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Lower energy cost makes manufacturing more competitive. Clean energy also creates technical jobs

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in installation, engineering and long-term operations. China has already taken steps with solar

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and silic campus. We can extend this momentum into commercial and industrial districts.

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Number three, industrial AI and automation. AI is transforming manufacturing by reducing

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downtime, optimizing production and cutting energy waste. This sector creates high-paying

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IT and engineering roles and helps upstate existing workers into digital technicians, ensuring

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innovation benefits the entire workforce.

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What can Chanaas and do in the next five years?

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To turn these opportunities into real jobs, I recommend three steps.

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Number one, create an advanced manufacturing innovation district.

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Identify land near major doors and facilities and offer incentive for companies, industry

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and robotics, automation and technology.

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Number two, launch a workforce program focused on robotics, automation and technology.

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Part are with local co-acologists and training institutions to prepare engines for high-paying

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technical roles.

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Number three, market China has an as a smart manufacturing city.

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promote our workforce infrastructure and quality of life to companies seeking to ratio production and expand advanced manufacturing operations.

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These steps are realistic, affordable and aligned with Minnesota State-wide innovation priorities.

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In closing, Chinatown can lead not just in Minnesota, but nationally by embracing innovation

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that creates hyper-injuts and brings modern manufacturing platform.

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By focusing on advanced manufacturing, clean energy and industrial AI, we can build a future

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where our residents' time, our businesses grow and our city becomes a model of economic resilience.

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to do that. Let's make chanais and the digital city of the future. Thank you for the

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time. Thank you Bala and we did receive the handouts so thank you.

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Our next scheduled

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visitor presentation is Kelly Olson.

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Kelly could you hold on one second? Is there any

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way to fix the mic, please.

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I don't think it's working.

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Oh, guys, for that we get tested.

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Testing?

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Okay, perfect.

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Good evening.

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My name is Kelly Olsen.

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I am the founder of Turtle Rescue Club and Turtle Tracker, two

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Minnesota-based community science initiatives focused on

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low barrier conservation and road ecology for turtles.

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Through our engagement efforts, we empower the community to accurately document turtle

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observations, to help identify patterns of movement, migration and mortality to better

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understand where conservation efforts are most needed.

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Today our findings have brought us to Galpin Boulevard, where I have received over 30 validated

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turtle road mortality or injury reports, concentrated along Galpin Boulevard between

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We have been Paisley Path and Dela Drive since April this year.

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We have tried unsuccessfully over the past-

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Several months to engage the city of Chanasson through dozens of C click fixed reports, which were either invalidated or ignored, calls and messages to your public works department that were never returned, and a presentation to the Environmental Commission, which resulted in five weeks of unanswered follow-up and ultimately zero action. I can understand the lack of attention to this because turtle space a unique dilemma known as the perception of persistence. There is a common perception that turtles are abundant and resilient.

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wild life, but the reality is quite different. 61% of turtle species are considered endangered

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or threatened with more than half of all species facing extinction risk within the next 40 years.

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Turtles are especially vulnerable to roads because they must travel to nesting sites and do not

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perceive roads in natural barriers. Nesting females who are responsible for building up the population

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are disproportionately struck. At turtle's natural defense mechanism is to retreat within their

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which offers no protection from traffic.

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Many species take years or even decades

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to reach reproductive maturity.

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For example, painted turtles take up to 10 years

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to be able to lay eggs and blending turtles

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which live in Minnesota take 30.

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And finally, research has shown that even a 3% additive decline

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in adult turtles can cause localized populations to collapse.

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Our federally endangered blending turtles

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can't even sustain a 0 percent decline because there are so few left. I was only

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given five minutes to speak today and I'm sure you can see I can talk about

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this for much longer so I'd like to focus on what I've prepared for you

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today. I've made each of you guys a turtle conservation packet and here is

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what is inside. First, educational materials and reasons why turtles are

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vulnerable to road mortality and important to the ecosystem. Two, comparable

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mortality data of similar roads validating the Galpin Boulevard is an environmental

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corridor and turtle mortality hotspot. A data map outlining over 30 documented turtle

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mortality, injury, and crossing incidents on Galpin since April. A QR code linking to

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the CARE 11 piece we did on Galpin this June, which highlights the density of traffic on this road,

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as well as multiple animal crossing incidents that were witnessed in just the one hour of filming.

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5. A recent survey of Minnesota taxpayer sentiments validating that 84% of Minnesotans either

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favor or strongly favor structures, allowing wildlife to cross. 6. An audit of the issues

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with Galpin Road that I conducted personally and 7. My request for consideration.

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Finally, I've included a selection of imagery that I feel pains and accurate picture of what

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is happening on this road. I did not include these images to shock you or upset you, but instead

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as a choice. You can choose to expand your capacity for discomfort and see the preventable

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suffering that's happened on this road. Tutorials whose only fault was crossing a roadway where

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their existence wasn't considered. Or you can choose to look away and ignore them. All I ask

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is that you make the decision that is aligned with your values as a community leader, as a parent,

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and as an individual who shares this world with other creatures who cannot speak for themselves

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and who are in harm's way.

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And I can promise you if nothing is done,

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there will be no more turtles on Gelfon Boulevard.

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I will now pass the microphone over

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for impact statements to two members of the community.

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Katie and Emma, thank you.

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Miss Wilson?

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All right, this is going to be tricky,

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but good evening everybody.

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I'm Katie Hachia, and my resident of Chan Hanson,

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a little bit, 7588, while I'm at Curve.

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I'm here tonight because I honestly don't know what else to do.

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For the past four months, I've watched countless turtles attempt to cross Galpin Boulevard.

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I've seen their bodies in the road, sometimes day after day, and it's affected me much more deeply than I ever expected.

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Four months ago, I started documenting what I was seeing, sharing it with our community on Facebook and reporting and encouraging others to report fatalities through sea click fix.

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because I believe that if the city understood the scope of the problem, someone would eventually help.

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When that didn't happen, I tried to raise awareness myself.

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I spent $100 of my own money on signs and took my three-year-old son, McCoy, with me, to put them up.

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I wanted him to learn that when you see something wrong, you can do something about it.

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What I didn't know was that someone from the city was following closely behind us,

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taking the signs down almost as quickly as we put them up. By the time my

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son and I turned around by home they were gone. I had to tell them they must have

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blown away in the wind.

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He still asked about the signs today. I understand there are rules about signage and public property and see click fix has its limitations. What I don't understand is why no one simply responded to me and said I see what you're seeing. Let's figure out what we can do. After feeling pretty hopeless, I desperately look for someone who cared about this as much as I did. But who also had a more experience and knew how to help?

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That's when I found Kelly and Turtle Trekker.

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Since then, we've continued advocating like she mentioned for this issue, including bringing it to the environmental commission and care 11 news.

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Despite those efforts, we heard nothing from the city and continued to receive weekly messages from the community members about another turtle being killed on Dalton, both Boulevard or nearby.

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But we're not giving up because this has never really been about science.

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It's been about watching an incredible wildlife die in our community and feeling like you're screaming into a void

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It's about knowing something is preventable and you're feeling powerless to prevent it

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You may look at this and think there are bigger problems to solve

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But this is a problem where solutions already exist. What's missing is the commitment to implement them

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I'm not asking the city to drop everything overnight

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I'm asking you to just care with us to work with us and help us find a way to make Galpin safer for turtles

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and other wildlife because I'm sick of white and clean the wheel every time I turn on the gulp and wondering what I'm going to see next and trust me, I wish I didn't care that much because it would be a lot easier but someone has to care and I'm just determined clearly to show my kids what it means to fight for something you believe in even when it's uncomfortable time consuming fresh reading and you're continually told no. Thank you guys.

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Thank you very much.

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Hello, I am, Mee, but my actual name is Emma, Emma Howell.

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I live in 173-0, May Apple Pass, Chanhas and Minnesota.

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I am here about the turtles today.

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Someone who has helped the turtles two times in a row, saved them.

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And I am speaking in favor of protecting Minnesota's native turtles here in Chanhas and

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And especially on galpin boulevard, turtles are an important part of our local ecosystem

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and protecting them is not simply about saving one animal on the side of the road.

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It is about protecting the wetlands, shorelines, nesten areas, and natural spaces that make

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Chanhas in such a special place to live.

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So when traffic flow was diverted to galpin, the turtles have been majorly impacted, and

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I ask you to do more to protect them.

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Minnesota is a home to several native turtle species,

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include in painted turtles, snap in turtles, map turtles, soft shell turtles,

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and the state, Fretton, Blandon, and Wood Turtles.

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The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources identifies habit loss, habit frag mission,

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and wrote mortality as significant threats to turtle population.

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This matters in Chanhasen because our community has an abundance of lakes, wetlands, parks, and natural areas.

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Places such as Lake Minowashda, Reginald Park, and Rice-Smart Lake Park provide exactly the kinds of aquatic and natural habitats that wildlife depends on.

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One of the simplest things we can do is make our roads safer for turtles.

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Turtles often cross roads during seasonal movements between wetland and

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In eastern areas, female turtles made travel considerable distances to reach traditional

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nest and site.

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Unfortunately, that puts them directly in the path of vehicles.

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We already know that solutions can work in the Twin Cities area.

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Special turtle fencing installed near wetlands reduced turtle road kill by 60 free to 87%.

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wildlife crossings, properly designed fencing, and improved habitat connections can allow turtles to move safely, without considered creating unnecessary risk for drivers.

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This is something every resident can participate in.

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If you see a turtle crossing the road, slow down and give it space.

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If it is safe to help, move the turtle in the same direction it was already traveling.

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Not towards a different pond or lake, we keep a tail in our car just for this.

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Protective native turtles does not mean stopping growth or preventing people from enjoying

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chairhassen.

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It means planning responsibly so that people and wildlife can co-exist.

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By protecting wetlands with slow downsides and modern speed, we can improve the-

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The chances for turtles to manage across in the road safely as we educate our community citizens. Chanhasen can be a leader in local wildlife conservation in Minnesota. Our native turtles have been part of Minnesota's landscape for generations with thoughtful actions today. We can make sure they remain part of Chanhasen's landscape. And a special saying to stop man that helped me when we were going to stop and turn off the road. I was trying to get it and it was trying to stop

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Not me, but this man helped.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Ellen.

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Other visitor presentations, please, yes.

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Two short thank yous.

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I haven't been here in a while, Linda Paulson, you know me.

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Thank you for the storm pond planned.

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Awesome, you and Joe and whoever else is involved.

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A couple of years ago I did talk to Joe in the pond that's in our mini valley.

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It could be an issue, but on the south side of it is about 8.50.

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it's about 10 feet wide, it's about eight, it's city property, so I'm concerned about somebody falling in there, and we don't get sued, so I don't know about the condition of the pond, I haven't gone over there since 2022, but Joe said at one point it was the third worst pond, but I realized that the priority of ponds changes, so just an observation, so maybe it can be, I don't know, it's an old 1980s vintage, huge concrete, whatever, but thank you for the plan,

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You're doing a great job and then thank you twice I mentioned the goats bring out the goats bring out your goats

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Thank you. Thank you. That's it. So good job guys. Great. Thanks Linda

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Good

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evening. My name is Rob in the door. I live at 1050 Pleasant View Road in Chanhason

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I'm here to address the Pleasant View Road

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Improvement project this would or it will you're welcome to speak now, but we will have a public hearing

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That's our next item, and we will allow.

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So that would be the time to speak.

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Yes, that would be great.

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Perfect, that would.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else that would like to come forward?

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Hi, my name is Dawn Farnin, and I live at 70408, Fawn Hill Road.

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And I just wanted to actually, this is, I was not prepared, but I did see the initiative about the turtles, and I live off Galpin Road.

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So I just do want to express that I hope you take the information that's given to you and actually look at it.

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Our family has lived in Chan Hassen for about eight years off Galpin and we really started

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notice when they started developing, I called the old Prince property, Paisley Path, etc.,

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that we saw a lot of dead turtles and so this is not just recent, this has been going

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ever since the construction where the turtles are really dying.

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And our family, my whole family is here today and we, because we do walks a lot and that's

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this area, I'm really concerned about the where we see the turtles crossing Galpin.

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And there are the, oh, please give me the word retaining walls.

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There's curbs and retaining walls where it used to be just completely flat.

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You know across from one side of the road to the next, kind of like right north of Hunter, and it kind of goes down like that.

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Now it's beautiful, it is beautiful.

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But just in the past couple of weeks, my family had talked about that,

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where how are the turtles going to get across?

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Because both sides where there's water, the water are the beautiful bridge or the retaining walls.

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So, I think it does need to be looked at just from an environmental standpoint because we're missing I know people in our broader neighborhood are, you know, very concerned about it and if I can, can I get everybody here who's in support of the turtle to stand up please really fast and show everybody the back of your shirt and just so you show you how many people did on a very short notice come to support this topic.

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Thank you all.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thanks for coming.

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Well,

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thank you for all the people that came to support the turtles and the initiative.

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So I appreciate you coming forward.

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So thank you for coming tonight.

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Thank you.

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Are there any other visitor presentations tonight before we move forward in our agenda?

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Okay.

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Next up, we have our law enforcement update, Lieutenant Stan.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor. You able to get that switched over to my here? You're not making that happen?

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that was my fault.

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There we go. All right, good evening, Madam Mayor, members of the council. I'm going to talk tonight about the first half update the calls for service and the council of the trends that have been taking place throughout the city for the first half of the year. So I always start with just the total calls at a glance and the one thing that you'll notice is that

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the call volume for the start of 2026 is substantially higher than what we've had in previous years and

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what I always kind of caution about is don't take this number at face value because this includes

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absolutely everything including the largest driver of our calls for service which is our traffic

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stops and so you'll see that we're about 800, 900 more calls for service anywhere last year

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we're above what our average has been over those four years but when I go to this next screen you'll

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see that it's because our traffic stop numbers have increased substantially from this year

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and compared to basically all of the years going back to 2022.

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Now there's a couple reasons for why that is.

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One of the reasons is that we have some individuals here in the city this year who are very highly

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motivated by traffic enforcement and so when they have downtime during their shifts they're

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out on the streets looking for cars to stop and so that's one of the reasons why it's so

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much higher.

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Another reason is that we're fully staffed and when we have a full complement of deputies in the city, that frees them up and empowers them to engage in more proactive policing knowing that if they do stumble across a drunk driver or some other issue that they're not going to be leaving their partner alone in the city to defend for calls.

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So when we have a full complement of deputies, that does free them up to be able to be more proactive in regards to their traffic enforcement.

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So right now, throughout the first half of the year, we're averaging about 13 traffic stops per day in the city, which brings me to the end of this screen, which talks about our total calls, which do not include traffic stops.

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So this is what we're actually getting called for, and you'll see that when you look at these numbers, the numbers are far more comparable to previous years just below the average.

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I was looking before about how 2022 was a high water mark for us and calls have been going

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down ever since.

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And we've had a slate uptick and call so far for the first half of the year.

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So when we talk about what is causing that uptick, I can say that it is not crime, that is the

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result of that.

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As you can see, crime has been dropping since 2022, and it's continued to drop so far through

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the first portion here of 2026 as well.

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Well, of the crimes that we do see, overwhelmingly, they are nonviolent crimes, as I noted here, theft and fraud make up, just shy of 50% of all of the crimes that we're experiencing.

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DWI arrests remain higher in the city, we've had 20 so far.

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And of all the crimes where an individual is hurt, there's been 22 of those so far in the city, so again, about 10% of the total crime volume.

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But when compared to the total calls that we experienced throughout the through the first half of the year that makes up 0.004% of the total call volume.

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So that is something that we're very happy about here in the city. It's a very safe community.

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So where is the increase coming from?

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We've seen an increase in these three ones in particular are our largest drivers.

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Miscellaneous non-criminal, that's to start catch all if somebody calls and doesn't fit into one of the categories that we have falls into that category.

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where somebody calls, has questions for an officer or they don't.

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Maybe there's, whatever it might be that doesn't fall into one of the categories we have

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it falls under miscellaneous non-criminal.

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We have seen an uptick in motor vehicle crashes.

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One of the primary drivers of that is County Road 61 and

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County Road 101 down by the Shocker P border.

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We've been in communication with County engineering to talk about roadway improvements for

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that area, but we are seeing, continuing to see a significant number of crashes down

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there but we're just seeing an uptick overall throughout the city and our medical calls as well have

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gone up. So between those three we've seen an increase of 172 calls which average is about to

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one extra call for service per day in the city. Some of our other contributors are animal calls,

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alarm calls, and special activity and disturbances. Overall it's about 6% increase between all of those

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combined. So we're averaging about 16 calls for service per day here in the city. That's up when I

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I spoke to you at the beginning of the year for all of 2025 or at 14 and a half that's

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increased now to about 16 calls for service per day.

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I wanted to touch briefly on mental health calls and you'll notice when you look at these

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numbers that they kind of just jump all over the map.

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And there's no real rhyme or reason as to when or why someone is going to experience a mental health crisis. And I think that explains the variation of the numbers. Some years through the midway point were much higher, somewhere much lower. And it's just just kind of how that plays out when it comes to mental health. There's no real way to predict that. But I brought this up because I wanted to touch on our mental health co-responder program. That was something that we've had in the past. And then there were changes within the county with regards to the crisis team that the county had. They had an embedded crisis unit.

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that is no longer the case, they now resource out or contract that out to a different provider.

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So our crisis co-responder was on hold for a little while, but we now have a co-responder

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back in that position as a full-time individual who works Monday through Friday, basically

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from 8 to 4.30 and their job is if there's a mental health call, they will respond with

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law enforcement.

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The problem is that these calls can happen anytime of the day.

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So what we are working on right now is hiring additional four co-responders that would be 0.25 employees to help work weekends and evenings to help capture that period when the mental health calls are happening when they're not conveniently Monday through Friday when the co-responder is here.

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So we are continuing to build that program up and we're really excited to see where that goes here in the next few months.

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A lot of here on this page will kind of just summarize this, but we've been doing this enhanced

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traffic wave where every other month we're picking a different road here in the city that

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we are doing targeted enforcement on, where we've received complaints, where there's been

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issues or known problems on that roadway.

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On February, we focused on kind of road 101, between Lyman Boulevard and Pioneer Trail.

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During that way, we made 117 traffic stops and deputy spent just over 64 hours doing high visibility patrols on that roadway.

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In April, we moved to bluff creek between pioneer and kind of road 61 where they made 87 stops over 46 and a half hours.

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I will note with bluff creek, that is the one road in particular where our efforts have been dramatically noticed by our staff that used to be, it would be very easy to find cars going 50 miles an hour in that 30 mile an hour zone, quite frequently multiple times throughout the day.

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that has now become much more rare.

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So we're happy that at least anecdotally,

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those enforcement efforts have been successful.

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And then in June, we focused on just basically the main stretch

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of highway five from one side of the city to the other.

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We just wanted cars as they're traveling through the city

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to see us on one of the largest roadways that we have,

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making sure that our presence is visible,

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whether we're parked on the side of the road

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or if we pull a car over, there could be dozens of cars

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that drive by that see us taking that enforcement action,

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whether we stop them for speeding

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or hands-free violations or just simply their tabs on their car expired.

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It's visible to the general public, so we made 126 stops over 82 hours in highway five.

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And one of the other reasons for the increased traffic stop numbers is, we received both the sheriff's office and you received a lot of complaints about traffic volumes as it related to the highway five construction project.

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So with input from city leaders, we at the sheriff's office were able to

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to put out some overtime shifts

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you made them available to our deputies

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who wanted to come in.

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Some just came in early before their shift started

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for a few hours, others would come in on a day off

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and would work some shifts,

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and we were really targeting the areas

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that were most impacted by the construction.

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So we focused on Minowash to Parkway,

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Lake Lucy, Galpin Boulevard,

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and a lot of the residential roadways

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that were in that area.

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So over a span of approximately two weeks,

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our deputies worked 15 total shifts,

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which came to about 61 hours.

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During that time period,

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deputies made 105 traffic stops and issued 30 citations.

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What we found was that stop sign violations were the most common one.

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We did find numerous speeding violations.

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Most of those were on Kalpin, or yes, Kalpin Boulevard north of Lake Lucy.

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Certain areas we just didn't find a lot of speeding minowash to Parkway or the Lake Lucy for

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the most part we found people within the appropriate ranges.

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And then a lot of the other tickets were for not driving conduct related to any of the construction matters.

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Well, I guess the legal turns on Highway 5 and 41, there was a lot of that early on.

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But some hands-free violations he felt used and expired registration were some reasons for the stops.

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Again, more so the idea was we want to be visible in the area, we want people to see us.

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So for not finding cars a stop for the speeding or the stop sign running that we were hearing a lot of complaints about,

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we still wanted to be highly visible through making stops.

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So that wraps up the first half of the year.

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We have some stuff that we're looking forward to here in the second half that I look forward to sharing with you at some point, but I'll stand for any questions at this time.

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Great. Thank you, Lieutenant Stan. Any questions, Council?

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Just follow-up and appreciation for all of the work that you do, but the enhanced traffic that stops that you've made and just the initiative in general has been really appreciated.

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I know you get a lot of

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e-mails, and I get a lot of e-mails and pass them along to you, and I always appreciate one that you respond to the resident, but then also there's action that supports it, and just having your visibility out on the roads is very much appreciated. So, thank you for making that a focus for your group this year. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have our public hearing, and this is to consider approval of the Pleasant View Road Rehab Project, Mr. Howley.

416
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,060
Good evening, Madam.

417
00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:41,480
mayor and council. Hopefully you can see the PowerPoint presentation looks like we're off to a good start.

418
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,760
Yes, we are here to talk about the Pleasant View Road Rehabilitation Project.

419
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:51,820
The agenda will be I will provide a brief overview of the project.

420
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,240
We will conduct a public hearing. We refer to this as the improvement hearing

421
00:40:58,580 --> 00:41:04,320
and council will then consider whether or not to order the project. And by ordering the project

422
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,220
that essentially just means we want to move forward with a project.

423
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:15,480
It's an MS Minnesota statute for 29 requirement when we're talking about assessments.

424
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,460
So if we don't order the project, we don't have a project.

425
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:24,820
The City Council is not approving a final design tonight.

426
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:27,320
We're not talking about detailed design elements.

427
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,800
We are here to consider ordering a project for rehabilitation.

428
00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:36,700
The City Council is not approving the final assessments tonight.

429
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,840
That will happen at a later meeting.

430
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:40,880
Should we order the project tonight?

431
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,900
And staff is requesting council direction on one aspect of the project, however.

432
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:52,080
And that's this consideration for a trail along Pleasantville Road on the far west end of the project.

433
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,340
And I'll talk a little more about that in a little bit.

434
00:41:57,090 --> 00:41:58,530
So, a project overview.

435
00:41:59,490 --> 00:42:03,990
We're talking about the road highlighted in red in the northeast corner of the city.

436
00:42:04,070 --> 00:42:05,050
It's Pleasant View Road.

437
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:13,450
It is 1.8 miles and the pavement rehabilitation technique we are considering or planning is what's

438
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:17,030
called a full depth reclamation, FDR for short.

439
00:42:18,110 --> 00:42:23,790
Existing pavement, OCI's, that's like our measure of the condition of the pavement for this

440
00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:25,850
corridor is all in the low 30s.

441
00:42:25,850 --> 00:42:30,430
So 100 is a brand new road and zero is a gravel road.

442
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:32,030
So we're getting down there.

443
00:42:32,170 --> 00:42:34,410
It's time to rehabilitate this pavement.

444
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:36,630
We are not widening the street.

445
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:43,710
And just so we're all aware, Pleasant View Road is a collector roadway

446
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:47,430
and it is designated as admissible state aid street.

447
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:50,630
And I'll talk a little bit more about that later on.

448
00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:59,330
The project includes replacement of the betuminous curbing that is out there along the stretch of the core.

449
00:42:59,650 --> 00:43:05,290
If there is existing concrete curbing gutter, that may be replaced as well.

450
00:43:05,930 --> 00:43:11,450
And we will be strategically adding certain areas of concrete curbing gutter where needed.

451
00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:16,350
And that might be where we're going to put in a storm sewer catch basin.

452
00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:18,270
and so we'll want to get that anchored

453
00:43:18,270 --> 00:43:20,090
in some concrete for a short period.

454
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:24,030
We have about 0.2 miles of trail

455
00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:25,750
that we're going to rehabilitate.

456
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:27,170
This is more on the east end

457
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:29,130
and we would do that by NFDR as well.

458
00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:32,550
We have limited utility work out there.

459
00:43:32,670 --> 00:43:35,030
We've got some spot repairs of sanitary sewer

460
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:37,790
and some water repairs.

461
00:43:38,430 --> 00:43:42,070
We've got targeted storm water management improvements only,

462
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,750
but because of the nature of the project,

463
00:43:44,750 --> 00:44:13,170
being a rehab and doing the FDR process, we are not planning on triggering some of the stormwater management permitting requirements where we would have to build a whole bunch of ponds and otherwise manage stormwater differently than just making a few strategic improvements of what's already out there now and we will be making a number of safety improvements that I will get into a little later.

464
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:19,650
This is a photo of an existing condition. This is over on the west side. It's fairly

465
00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:26,090
rural in nature. You can see the Batuminous Curb that is there. Essentially, you can see

466
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:35,520
the condition of the roadway and what an OCI of mid-30s looks like. This is a more of a central

467
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,320
area. As we get closer to the lake, the road's a little more narrow. It's still generally rural

468
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,780
and character, although there still is the betunmentous curb on either side.

469
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:52,500
But I wanted to show this picture to talk about that stormwater management improvements.

470
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:59,940
This would be an opportunity to, I guess, stabilize this drainage channel.

471
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:28,860
So, there's not a lot of stormwater BMPs on this road and much of the stormwater goes right into Lotus Lake untreated. So, we want to do our best to manage that resource and provide treatment when we can. So, in this particular instance, there's a catch basin over there. There's just a curb cut there and that channel and there's a pipe and this is, I would call any roaded channel all the way out to the lake.

472
00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:35,300
So we'll reclaim the road, replace the storm sewer, replace the pipe, put in a different

473
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:40,820
catch basin, put in a pipe, and some rip wrap, and then stabilize that channel with maybe

474
00:45:40,820 --> 00:45:43,360
some check dams or things along this nature.

475
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,100
So that's what I'm referring to as storm water management, it makes sense to do it, but

476
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,240
we don't have to build a big pond.

477
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Then looking at the east end, again, this may be a little more urban in nature.

478
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:03,380
You can kind of see we do have an existing trail on the east, but the payment condition is essentially the same.

479
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,280
This is a little bit wider road.

480
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:17,080
This road was built in sections over time, and so it's not a specific same cross section the entire way from powers to one to one.

481
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:27,460
The public touch points we've had on this project, if you remember, it started really back in early January of 2025.

482
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:31,160
And we had a work session with the City Council.

483
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,720
At the time, the project was considering a full reconstruction.

484
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:41,300
We wanted to think that we were going to bring the corridor up to standards of a collector road,

485
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,660
which means we got a widenant, we got to build trails, and in order to do that on this corridor, that means retaining walls.

486
00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:53,060
That means a lot of impacts to private property, that means a lot of money.

487
00:46:53,060 --> 00:47:07,780
And so we were working on a grant application for the federal grant program just because we couldn't afford such a project on our own, but at that work session, it became pretty clear that we don't need to do a $24 million project.

488
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:09,220
Let's reconsider the scope.

489
00:47:10,460 --> 00:47:18,720
So what we did is we took some time working through, I guess, planning design efforts, if you will.

490
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:26,100
And by the time we got to November of 25, we came back to a work session and reviewed with the city council.

491
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:42,980
A couple options for a reconstruction, not a full reconstruction to standards of a collector, but a modified reconstruction effort, but it was still a reconstruction or a lighter touch more of a rehab.

492
00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:49,360
And we then held an open house in November 18th.

493
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,080
And we prepared a public survey and we mailed that out.

494
00:47:53,420 --> 00:47:55,700
We had people fill that out at the open house.

495
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,740
And we requested feedback on what are the problems on this corridor?

496
00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:02,220
What do, what issues do we need to solve?

497
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,480
What should we do?

498
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,920
And if you remember the feedback that we got, this is a snapshot of that feedback.

499
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,000
In fact, there were really four main things that the residents said were important.

500
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,380
Number one, what the most was impacts to private property.

501
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,940
Meaning, let's impact, let's lessen the impact to private property.

502
00:48:25,060 --> 00:48:28,340
That's the number one important thing for the people who answered the survey.

503
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,780
Number two was speeding, let's address traffic on the corridor, primarily speeding.

504
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:43,220
there is bike and pedestrian safety, which was scored heavily as a priority for the project and then cost.

505
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:48,980
And as you remember, when we're talking about a reconstruction project, you know, there's a lot of zeroes after that.

506
00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:51,360
So people were cognizant of the cost.

507
00:48:51,580 --> 00:49:03,020
So those were the four main themes, and so when we came back in January and met with City Council and worked through the feedback and the cost and the two kind of planning options.

508
00:49:03,020 --> 00:49:10,560
Again, we heard a light touch, a rehab only, let's not over do this, was the direction.

509
00:49:11,580 --> 00:49:18,400
So since then, we have been working on the feasibility design, which we're considering

510
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,120
tonight, and we had an open house on July 22nd.

511
00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:25,360
This is the project layout.

512
00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:29,940
I don't pretend anybody's going to read that, but this is on the website, if anybody, and

513
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:34,340
it was in the packet, if anybody wants to drill in, it essentially shows a bunch of colors.

514
00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:40,540
This is the road we're rehabbing, it doesn't have a lot of detail, it is just a layout.

515
00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:45,410
Safety improvement recommendations.

516
00:49:45,830 --> 00:49:52,290
So the things that we plan on incorporating into this project that address safety, and

517
00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:59,970
a lot of it is speeding and driver safety, mixing with the folks who are recreating alone.

518
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:28,300
On the corridor, whether walking, walking their dog, kids on scooters, bikers, all these sorts of things. Is we plan on doing driver speed feedback signs? These are the things that tell you how fast you're going and blink at you if you're going too fast? We plan on putting those on, which is pretty standard, certainly for collector roads recently with all of our projects. So we feel that's a good mitigation tool.

519
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:33,060
and we would, this road's pretty long corridor, so we would put them in multiple locations.

520
00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:36,680
Maybe we're thinking three different locations in East and West and

521
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,000
somewhere maybe in the middle.

522
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:43,700
Sightline improvements, the mostly targeted vegetation management.

523
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:50,540
Here is a picture and an example of an area that I want to describe there.

524
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:57,400
I'm going to get more into standards and variances and horizontal curves a little bit.

525
00:50:57,820 --> 00:51:04,260
But, for example, the way this road is currently built, it does not meet an engineering standard

526
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:07,560
for a 30-mile per hour design speed.

527
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Okay, so what do you do?

528
00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:12,460
You got to make the curve bigger.

529
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Well, we don't really want to do that, so what do we do?

530
00:51:15,620 --> 00:51:19,400
The safety issue is you can't see anything around the corner, so what can you do?

531
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:25,320
Well, if we remove some of these trees, that allows you to see the people that are around

532
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
on the corner, the other cars that are coming your way,

533
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,020
that is a visual safety improvement,

534
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,920
and we're planning on doing some of that.

535
00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:38,040
Payment markings, as you can see,

536
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,240
there are no payment markings on this street.

537
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,980
Studies have shown and our data on our projects have shown

538
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:48,360
that if we put a center line, if we put fog lines,

539
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:52,000
or we do both, that can slow people down,

540
00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:54,840
because that's a visual clue to keep the drivers

541
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,500
from driving as fast, maybe not driving in the middle of the street.

542
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:01,260
They'll drive on one side of the street.

543
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:07,200
Those things are meaningful ways of getting people to slow down,

544
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:11,820
and we want to make as many safety improvements as we can.

545
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,240
So I think that is a big one we could do.

546
00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:17,280
Curb bump outs at strategic locations.

547
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,300
Think about right here at Kerber, right by the library and

548
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,060
We built that curb. That's a curb bump out.

549
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,080
What that does is it makes cars pay attention and slow down.

550
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,360
There's some strategic locations that we could do that in this quarter.

551
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:34,640
We don't have them designed or identified.

552
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,620
But I do think that there is a number of spots that we could include doing that.

553
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,540
There will be, you know, minor grading.

554
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,860
You know, this road hasn't been touched in a long time.

555
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:48,340
Things settle, slopes are kind of sloughing off.

556
00:52:48,340 --> 00:53:01,900
So minor grading, along with the new pavement and the new curbing will help with the puddles and the icing and just the quality of the road, that will be a safety improvement in itself.

557
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:15,380
I'm going to talk a little bit about the intersection at Horseshoe Curve and then this potential addition of a trail on the west end is it would be considered as a safety recommendation.

558
00:53:15,380 --> 00:53:24,570
So, we're talking about that horseshoe curve interception, and we presented this to you

559
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:32,190
back in January as well, but what it does is it takes a certainly non-compliant horizontal

560
00:53:32,190 --> 00:53:38,170
curve with bad sight lines and brings it up to an engineered intersection.

561
00:53:38,530 --> 00:53:44,990
Right now, there's no stop signs on Pleasantby Road, there's hills, there's trees, there's

562
00:53:44,990 --> 00:53:52,490
intersecting roads, we received plenty of comments that it's kind of an unsafe intersection.

563
00:53:53,090 --> 00:53:57,810
So let's make it safer, let's make it a three way stop, let's re-align it a little bit.

564
00:53:58,590 --> 00:54:04,890
One thing that it does, it avoids, and I'm going to get into this a little more, variance

565
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:14,230
that we would have to ask for from municipal state aid folks, this road doesn't meet the standard

566
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:20,210
If we didn't want to recreate the intersection, we kept the curvature.

567
00:54:20,830 --> 00:54:27,470
We would have to do some sight line improvements due to the nature of this property clearing

568
00:54:27,470 --> 00:54:30,330
that vegetation and that hill and that fence.

569
00:54:30,730 --> 00:54:34,750
It's almost infeasible to do your sight line improvements there.

570
00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:39,810
So we need to do something so this is what we think would be a very good plan.

571
00:54:40,690 --> 00:54:49,550
This is just a screenshot of what it looks like on a random day, where even our truck is parking there, and the road curves around.

572
00:54:50,810 --> 00:54:56,490
I wouldn't consider this a well engineered intersection, so we think we can do better.

573
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,860
The new trail considered.

574
00:55:01,140 --> 00:55:29,000
So that would go from powers to Fox Path. That would be on the south side of the road. At least that's what we develop for a planning consideration. I would say that in order to fit this path in, we do not need additional permanent right of way. It would cost additional money of not putting it in, and we've estimated it about $340,000.

575
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:35,700
dollars. That cost would not affect the assessments. So whether the trail goals or doesn't

576
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:41,980
go the assessments in theory would stay the same. Some retaining walls would be required,

577
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:50,140
primarily down in these curved sections. I think maybe four foot tall at its max if I

578
00:55:50,140 --> 00:55:55,140
was reading the sections correctly, but again, those would be built in the right of way, not

579
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:55,780
private property.

580
00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:59,480
Again, it would be proposed as a safety improvement.

581
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,040
That's the why would we want to do this?

582
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:06,860
And as you're all aware, there is strong public opinion

583
00:56:06,860 --> 00:56:09,360
both for and against this trip.

584
00:56:12,010 --> 00:56:13,770
An overview of project costs.

585
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,270
I put in here our budget and the CIP for just to see

586
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,030
what our guard rails are, but we're at feasibility stage.

587
00:56:23,570 --> 00:56:26,090
The current cost estimate is about 3.2 million

588
00:56:26,090 --> 00:56:33,810
with the vast majority being the pavement, the curb, the signage, anything related to do with the street.

589
00:56:34,490 --> 00:56:44,710
The storm water, sewer, and water main stuff, we're doing just light touchy type stuff so we don't have a big cost associated with those.

590
00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:55,970
I've asked Rick the street cost and noted that the PMP, that's the pavement management program is funded with revenue from the tax levy.

591
00:56:55,970 --> 00:57:00,610
from franchise fees, from municipal state aid, and assessments.

592
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:07,890
The city receives about $1.6 million annually in municipal state aid funding, and

593
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:13,050
we can use that for any state aid project that we want.

594
00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:19,630
This being a dedicated state aid road, we certainly plan to use state aid money on this project.

595
00:57:20,890 --> 00:57:26,570
To the tune of about $2.3 million in MSA money is what we would use for this project.

596
00:57:27,130 --> 00:57:29,070
You'll say, well, that's more than 1.6.

597
00:57:29,170 --> 00:57:29,790
How can we do that?

598
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:34,410
Well, we can spread our money out over two years, that's OK.

599
00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:38,610
We have to submit pay request and we have the way to construction is done.

600
00:57:38,830 --> 00:57:41,910
So we would be submitting money in 27 anyways or 28.

601
00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:46,230
So the fact that we're using a little over our annual money is OK.

602
00:57:46,570 --> 00:57:50,970
As long as we budget our state aid money with our upcoming projects appropriately, that's OK.

603
00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:54,570
Here's the thing.

604
00:57:54,570 --> 00:58:06,090
State aid, the minimum design speed that they review our project against is a 30 mile per hour design speed.

605
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:22,550
Our project is designing a 25 mile per hour road, but their rules say you design it for 30 and there's a difference because with 30 miles an hour your hills and your curves

606
00:58:23,450 --> 00:58:27,150
and your width of your street are different.

607
00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:32,210
The slower it is, the 30 miles an hour versus a 50 miles an hour,

608
00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:37,270
you can imagine the standards are different for those types of engineering criteria.

609
00:58:40,540 --> 00:58:44,320
Because the road and its current shape, if we rehabilitate it

610
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,900
and we've got these tighter curves, as like one example I showed earlier,

611
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,740
we have to ask for a variance. So there is a process where we go to state aid

612
00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:57,040
And we say, all right, we've got our project, we want state aid money.

613
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,740
It doesn't meet these number of criteria we want to variance.

614
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,460
If they approve the variance, we're good, there's not an issue.

615
00:59:05,780 --> 00:59:06,900
But there is a cost risk.

616
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:09,440
They could say your variance is not approved.

617
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:16,560
You either build it differently, which means we're making our curves much larger.

618
00:59:17,020 --> 00:59:19,060
We're getting outside of our right of way.

619
00:59:19,060 --> 00:59:24,620
our costs, our impacts, the whole thing goes north, right?

620
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,420
We could still build the project.

621
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,500
We just don't use state aid money.

622
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,140
That's okay, that's a choice that we can make.

623
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:40,120
We are submitting to the state aid folks for our variance by the end of this month.

624
00:59:40,420 --> 00:59:45,720
We have a meeting scheduled for September 24th, and that's when we'll know.

625
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:51,620
So I think they tell us then, they may have to deliberate and let us know whether our

626
00:59:51,620 --> 00:59:53,040
variances are approved or not.

627
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,400
The way we're thinking about designing this project is that it's just a cost-risk

628
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:25,340
Not that we would all of a sudden change the scope of what we want to do. Like we're all of a sudden not going to go back to the $24 million project, right? That's not what the way we're planning on designing this thing. It would just mean we have to use our money in the PMP fund differently. We'd save a bunch of MSA money for other MSA streets, right? But we would have to use a local money to fund this project.

629
01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:33,200
I would say that these costs do not include the cost of adding that trail.

630
01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:39,460
So if that was something we want to consider doing, we would add approximately $340,000 to

631
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:42,300
these numbers, and that would all go in that streak bucket.

632
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,680
It wouldn't go into the stormwater or utility buckets.

633
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,420
Assessments.

634
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,640
The project area is all single family residential.

635
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:56,960
There are 56 properties identified to be assessed, two of them are city owned.

636
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:08,900
Because of the single-family residential and our new assessment policy, which identifies flat rates, that's what we're proposing to do.

637
01:01:09,820 --> 01:01:15,220
The full-depth reclamation is has a 26 flat rate of $5,150.

638
01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:21,540
and $50. This project will happen next year. The assessment hearing will be next April,

639
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:28,760
so we'll be using 27 rates at that time and there'll be a nominal cost of inflation

640
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,600
airy rise. So our preliminary notices that we sent out to the properties that are getting

641
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,460
assessed had $5,300.

642
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,980
What that equates to revenue for the whole project is $348,000.

643
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,080
The last thing I'm going to talk about on cost is this MSA money.

644
01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:56,280
Again, when we're building a collector road, think of like Lucy or Minnewash to Parkway.

645
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,020
There's not many driveways on these roads.

646
01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:04,260
The roads are wider, the roads are made with thicker pavement, the project is more expensive.

647
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:12,260
We don't pass that cost on to the people who live on those collector roads because that would be unfair, right?

648
01:02:12,260 --> 01:02:19,320
Right, we normalize it to a normal local street of a certain width and a normal depth.

649
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,340
In this case, the oversizing money, the money that covers the wider street or

650
01:02:28,340 --> 01:02:31,460
the thicker pavement or whatever, even though in this case we're not widening the street.

651
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:38,780
But there are additional costs would be covered by the municipal state aid funds because we're using that money.

652
01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:49,240
If we need to cover that, we may want to have a discussion about assessments.

653
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,720
If you do the math,

654
01:02:53,810 --> 01:02:58,390
because it's a collector road and there's not as many driveways as a normal neighborhood street,

655
01:02:58,850 --> 01:03:10,090
and if you did the math backwards of the 56 properties, it's as if there are 340 foot wide lots on this road that have to pay

656
01:03:10,090 --> 01:03:19,960
for the road, which is 1.8 miles long, as opposed to a normal lot that say 80 or 100 foot wide.

657
01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:25,260
So there's not as much density here, the assessments don't generate the revenue.

658
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,400
So we're relying on the MSA money to cover our costs.

659
01:03:28,580 --> 01:03:29,800
It's really what I was trying to say there.

660
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:37,060
If, and I'm not saying that we should do this, but if we did the old way where we did 40% calculations,

661
01:03:37,660 --> 01:03:43,460
the assessments would be upwards of $17,000, not to $5,300.

662
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:49,820
So, just FYI, if this was four years ago and we were presenting here, we would be talking about some hefty assessment.

663
01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:55,440
So luckily, for the residents, we are not talking about that project schedule.

664
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,160
So, tonight is considering the ordering of the improvements.

665
01:03:59,780 --> 01:04:01,740
Again, do we want to do a project?

666
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:02,440
Yes or no?

667
01:04:02,860 --> 01:04:04,600
And do we want to assess for it?

668
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,980
That's what tonight is for.

669
01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:13,720
Based on what we find out with state aid and the variances, if it goes not well,

670
01:04:14,460 --> 01:04:18,780
I will be coming back to you in a work session in October to talk about okay,

671
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,760
we still have a project we want to build, but now we got to think about how are we paying for it

672
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:30,460
if we can't have that state aid money. My sense is in talking to the state aid folks that

673
01:04:31,660 --> 01:04:35,260
they understand the challenges of the corridor and I think we got a good shot,

674
01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:39,200
But I can't sit here today and say that we will get them approved.

675
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,340
I think we're asking for like seven or eight variances potentially.

676
01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:52,040
So this is not a run of the middle state aid project by any stretch of the imagination, but we can get there.

677
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:59,740
Okay, so then once we know, again, what we're building and how we're paying for it, the final design will take us.

678
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,980
Next through the fall, we will bid this in January. We will hold another open house in February. We will then come back for the assessment hearing, which is also when we award the contract to the lowest responsible bidder. That would be a peg for February 22nd. And then we would construct this. Again, we're planning for a one-year construction period from May to October. It's a long corridor. We're going to need all of that. What we don't know is how are we going to build it? Are we going to build it from left to right?

679
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:34,520
right, some from center out, you know, that's, we don't know any of that until we get a contract

680
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:40,660
around board and that's what we'll go over once we go to that open house in the future.

681
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:48,440
Just a summary of the public feedback, all of our open houses have been moderately attended,

682
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:56,700
pretty good attendance, not overwhelming. You know, a minor number of emails and phone calls,

683
01:05:56,700 --> 01:05:58,460
not too many.

684
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,280
The vast majority support the need for the pavement rehabilitation.

685
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:09,720
There's not too many that people that we heard from that says, you know, don't come here and repay this road.

686
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:15,380
It's quite the opposite. The repay of the road just stay off my property, right?

687
01:06:16,940 --> 01:06:20,360
A few questions concerning the assessments, but no real strong opposition.

688
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:25,400
And again, I think that's due to our flat rate, and it's a pretty manageable amount.

689
01:06:26,860 --> 01:06:37,840
The main themes of the feedback, which generally matched that previous survey that we did, was what can be done to improve safety, primarily the vehicle speeds.

690
01:06:38,420 --> 01:06:40,720
Please limit the impacts to the private property.

691
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,080
Keep the character of the roadway, rural trees, right?

692
01:06:46,080 --> 01:07:07,120
Right, let's not make this a, you know, thoroughfare is a word that gets used a lot, and then the trail at the west end by, I mean, with a bullet that 90% of the conversations I've had at the open house and subsequent emails has been about that trail, and you know this both proponents and opponents to it.

693
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,500
So that's my presentations I will stand for questions, otherwise we can move forward to the public here.

694
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:23,540
Great. Thank you, Mr. Howelley. Council, before I open the public hearing, do you have any questions for Mr. Howelley at this time? Councilman Macdonald.

695
01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:33,160
Mr. Howelley, first of all, I've lived in that area for over 40 years and I'm very familiar with that road.

696
01:07:34,060 --> 01:07:43,280
I appreciate the fact that you've put safety first because the road really needs, especially that intersection of horseshoe curve.

697
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:48,880
The question I've got though is the bigger issue comes down to pedestrian safety.

698
01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:55,100
The major area where that is paramount is not even covered.

699
01:07:55,820 --> 01:08:04,080
So my question, did you look at what it would take to maybe put a trail between the eastern

700
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:10,020
end and the western end where you're talking about, and what were the limitations of maybe

701
01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:17,140
be able to widen the road another four to six feet for a pedestrian right

702
01:08:17,140 --> 01:08:23,280
and way down there. Mayor and counselor are you talking about the area by the

703
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,260
lake where it's like the narrowest spot is that where you're saying is where

704
01:08:27,260 --> 01:08:32,340
I'm talking about is that whole area down there that's all the way up and

705
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:37,300
around to that stop sign and then up to a horseshoe curve there's nothing there

706
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:43,840
right now. Got you. Mayor council, yes, we spent a lot of time looking at that when

707
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:51,020
we were talking about the reconstruction project. And I can tell you that if we even widened

708
01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:57,760
that road by one foot, we're into massive retaining walls. We're grading down towards

709
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,720
that lake. The costs just go through the roof. We're outside of the right of way.

710
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,280
There's

711
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:12,180
We're literally widening that road one foot to try to give some room.

712
01:09:12,860 --> 01:09:18,340
I mean, there's really no way to add a four foot sidewalk or an eight foot trail

713
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:25,920
without jumping up to a $15, $16 million project and having to work with the private property.

714
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,960
So that was taken off the table, again, back in January.

715
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,660
So what do we do about it?

716
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:35,180
We can't widen anything.

717
01:09:36,380 --> 01:09:39,340
That would be a good spot for one of these curb bump balls.

718
01:09:39,620 --> 01:09:42,020
That would be a good spot for a driver feedback sign.

719
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,340
That'd be a good spot for other signs,

720
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,000
some strategic pavement markings,

721
01:09:47,580 --> 01:09:49,740
to let share the road, right?

722
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:50,980
There's going to be bikers.

723
01:09:50,980 --> 01:09:52,020
There's going to be walkers.

724
01:09:52,020 --> 01:09:54,940
There's going to be kids on scooters.

725
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:56,880
I'm that portion of road.

726
01:09:57,620 --> 01:09:59,980
We physically can't widen the road.

727
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,800
Thank you, Mr. Hollywood, with this scope of a project. So we have to use these lighter touch strategies and hope that people, drivers, take accountability for their actions while they're operating their vehicles. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Hollywood, for your comments and I'll wait to left the public hearing. I'll have other comments. Okay. Thank you, Councilman McDonald. Yes, Councilman Van Oven. Just to clarify, so that what's in the budget right now planned for

728
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:40,020
is $8 million, what we believe this will cost is somewhere between 3.1 and 3.2, right?

729
01:10:40,660 --> 01:10:48,340
So we absolutely want to go and get the variance and be able to use MSA, but if that falls

730
01:10:48,340 --> 01:10:53,520
apart, we are still more than covered in our current budget to do this project, yes?

731
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:59,680
as mayor and council that would be correct looking at the overall PMP fund.

732
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:07,640
It just has an impact on the MSA money within that fund because we can only use MSA money

733
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,020
for MSA roads and if we don't get the MSA money on here we can't use that money so we're

734
01:11:12,020 --> 01:11:20,460
using our local money so that is like horse trading with other projects but holistically

735
01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:23,860
the money is there. Got it. Thank you.

736
01:11:25,670 --> 01:11:26,390
Councilmember Kimber.

737
01:11:28,110 --> 01:11:34,070
Excellent. Thank you. Mr. Helig, my question is about the trail addition. So you made a comment

738
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:41,350
that the potential or the proposed trail does not extend beyond current right of ways.

739
01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:46,650
The only question I had though, when we looking at the map that was provided to us, the road

740
01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:52,790
and the trail, would there be any reconfiguration or if we were to extend this, would all of the

741
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:58,630
addition move to that south side of the road? Meaning, are we impeding it all to the north

742
01:11:58,630 --> 01:12:02,910
or would this proposed new trail impede just the southern properties?

743
01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:05,450
A mayor and council,

744
01:12:08,030 --> 01:12:13,490
what we have drawn is the road not moving, meaning the trail would

745
01:12:13,490 --> 01:12:21,150
go on the south side. If the trail became a reality, we would look harder at that. And maybe the road

746
01:12:21,150 --> 01:12:27,470
might have to move a foot in one spot or two foot in another spot. Not globally move the thing over

747
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:32,690
eight feet just to get it in. We have the room to get it in. But there may be some nuance and final

748
01:12:32,690 --> 01:12:38,010
design that says, you know what, we are really tight here. The center of the road does want to move two

749
01:12:38,010 --> 01:12:44,190
feet over. We just don't have that level of detail, but we can confidently say we can

750
01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:51,030
keep it within the right of way. But what's drawn is not showing pushing the road north.

751
01:12:51,490 --> 01:12:51,670
Okay,

752
01:12:53,880 --> 01:13:00,340
thank you. Perfect, Mr. Halle, before I open the public hearing. So again, just to reiterate

753
01:13:00,340 --> 01:13:08,220
tonight, we are just, you're looking for us to approve the project as a whole, consideration.

754
01:13:09,020 --> 01:13:15,400
The feedback that you're looking for are on all safety improvements, or specifically the trail.

755
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:26,860
And last, obviously, and then we're obviously not talking about, you're not looking for a recommendation as it relates to assessments.

756
01:13:27,060 --> 01:13:32,060
Your point for bringing up the 17,000 was just to highlight the change of policy, correct?

757
01:13:32,060 --> 01:14:00,320
Yes, Mayor Council, on that last point, yes, we're looking to order the project to say we want to do a payment rehabilitation project, that's it, we're not talking about specifics of final design, I would like to walk out of here tonight, no one if we should keep that trail in or I would like to know that because that's a lot of work and a lot of angst both on staff side, council side, public side about, are we still talking about this trail?

758
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:11,040
The other safety improvements, I would like to think you like them, and maybe there's others that we can consider, so I don't not necessarily looking for feedback on the other safety improvements.

759
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,860
It's the trail, it's just the trail.

760
01:14:13,060 --> 01:14:13,560
Okay, perfect.

761
01:14:14,380 --> 01:14:19,440
All right, I just wanted to declare, yes, there's one second, I'm going to open the public hearing and then you may come forward.

762
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:28,480
And so I just want to invite those that are here tonight that want to provide feedback for the public hearing.

763
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:31,260
when I open the public hearing, you are welcome to come forward.

764
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,300
When you come forward, please state your name and your address for the record.

765
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,120
Please address council.

766
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,520
We will not engage at the time if there are certain questions that you have.

767
01:14:43,860 --> 01:14:48,860
I will keep track, or all of council will keep track, but I will keep track of what those questions are.

768
01:14:49,460 --> 01:14:55,960
And then when we close the public hearing, then we will come back and we will address the questions that you have presented.

769
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,940
I know there are also folks that just want to provide feed.

770
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,940
On whether they want the trail or not the trail, or if there's other aspects of this project that you want to share, please do so at this time. You will each have three minutes to make your comments and ask your questions when you saw the visitor presentations, but you will see a little clock up next to the microphone, so please just pay attention to that. So, again, to reiterate, please come forward, state your name and your address for the record. Please address council and know that we are not going

771
01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:33,920
to have back and forth, but we will keep track of the questions that you have.

772
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,680
So now I will officially, I hear by open the public hearing.

773
01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:42,680
Please come forward and state your name and address further record, and you will have

774
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,340
three minutes to make your comments.

775
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:45,540
Yes, sir?

776
01:15:45,820 --> 01:15:45,960
Please.

777
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,160
Right at the microphone, please.

778
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:50,340
Yes, please.

779
01:15:51,860 --> 01:15:55,700
You can speak right into the microphone at the highest part of the podium.

780
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,120
Thank you.

781
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:56,780
Yeah, perfect.

782
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:57,480
Thank you.

783
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:02,500
and thank you for the information that, you know, on the single thing.

784
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:11,720
So my name is Tom Crocker, it's K-I-A-K-E-R, so it didn't matter, I was called Betty

785
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,080
and all kinds of things when I was growing up, it didn't really matter.

786
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,620
But my wife and I have lived at 801 Pleasant View Road for 30 years.

787
01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:30,250
The thing is, this road has a lot of curves, has a lot of water next to it, it's really

788
01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:31,750
not made for a trail.

789
01:16:32,710 --> 01:16:38,290
Now I understand it always sounds good to have a trail for some reasons, but sometimes

790
01:16:38,290 --> 01:16:42,070
a trail particularly on a curve where I live on a curve.

791
01:16:42,230 --> 01:16:48,390
That's where I have had some close calls, because people are coming downhill on a curve and

792
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:55,930
they're speeding and I'm trying to pull out of a driveway that has trees. I mean you can't

793
01:16:55,930 --> 01:17:03,190
only see it. Now I'm worried that this whiting it will even make it worse because they'll have more

794
01:17:03,190 --> 01:17:10,310
room to kind of come flying. Now I'm not a, you know, I don't have any math that proves that.

795
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:20,050
But it seems to me, if this was really a requirement in these 30 years, it would have been

796
01:17:20,050 --> 01:17:21,570
brought forth and done.

797
01:17:22,450 --> 01:17:28,910
But we've seen no issues and we've seen people all the time doing everything from taking

798
01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:37,650
their dogs, taking their babies and strollers, taking them in buggies, riding bikes, jogging,

799
01:17:37,650 --> 01:17:44,870
And part of the reason on the West End that it's safer is you can get into all kinds of

800
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:50,930
side roads, from Ridge Road, to the whole development of Pax Fath, the peaceful lane.

801
01:17:51,710 --> 01:18:00,410
And you can, you know, take a break, you can get off of the, away from all the traffic,

802
01:18:00,750 --> 01:18:02,410
which is a safety factor.

803
01:18:02,410 --> 01:18:19,470
And it seems to me that it's just kind of coming up with this trail for some reason that maybe it's just nice to add something like that on to a major repair and reconstruction.

804
01:18:20,410 --> 01:18:30,110
But this is not going to be an answer to a lot of safety in my opinion, it's going to be because there is a lot of safety on that western end.

805
01:18:30,110 --> 01:18:32,610
and because of all these side roads

806
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:36,270
and because 30 years, I've never seen any,

807
01:18:36,430 --> 01:18:37,250
I've had a lot of things.

808
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:38,790
I've never seen any problems.

809
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:43,890
And so that's why I'm asking the council

810
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:46,510
to pass on that trail.

811
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:50,410
If it's not hasn't been a big deal

812
01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:52,330
for 30 years that we've lived here,

813
01:18:52,710 --> 01:18:54,310
why is it a big deal now?

814
01:18:55,490 --> 01:18:58,670
People, you know, and my 30,

815
01:18:58,670 --> 01:19:01,410
Three matches up. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Cracker.

816
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:17,620
Council members, my name is Ed Shawopski. I live at 850 Pleasant View Road.

817
01:19:18,140 --> 01:19:23,720
If you're familiar with the road, I live right at the top of the curve, about at the midpoint where the trail is proposed.

818
01:19:24,700 --> 01:19:27,760
The only safety issue we ever have on Pleasant View Road is speed.

819
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,480
I've lived on this, I've lived at this location, I raised my children there for 32 years.

820
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:39,800
I jog the road, I bike the road, I walk my dog, when my kids were small, I jog with my kids on that road.

821
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,300
And we don't need a trail to make the road look more attractive.

822
01:19:43,900 --> 01:19:46,700
And I hate to say this, but I think we have smoother pavement.

823
01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:48,480
I think people will speed more.

824
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,780
I don't want to make it a more attractive road for people to go faster.

825
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,840
We want to preserve the slow country character.

826
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:58,900
If I wanted a big road with a path on it, I'd have bought a house on Lake Harrier.

827
01:19:59,180 --> 01:19:59,700
Thank you.

828
01:20:00,530 --> 01:20:01,210
Thank you, sir.

829
01:20:11,590 --> 01:20:39,730
Hi, my name is Robin Bedora. I live at 1050 Pleasant View Road, which is very close to Powers Boulevard. I too have lived on this road for 30 plus years. My family has lived very much longer. And it is a rural road. It is a 25 mile per hour road. I 100% agree with other comments of the safety impact is about speeding and you saw that in the survey that was done. And I believe that

830
01:20:39,730 --> 01:20:47,770
putting a trail in is going to psychologically make people think oh everybody's

831
01:20:47,770 --> 01:20:53,110
over there I have a much clearer path. I have been passed on this road coming home

832
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:59,150
from work during rush hour. I see people go fast all the time I think that the

833
01:20:59,150 --> 01:21:05,270
major impact is speeding. I believe putting a trail from Powers Boulevard to Fox

834
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:07,770
costs chase, dumps people to nowhere.

835
01:21:08,450 --> 01:21:12,670
Certainly, people in fact chase will benefit because they'll think, oh, we can just go straight

836
01:21:12,670 --> 01:21:14,490
up this trail instead of on the road.

837
01:21:15,090 --> 01:21:20,650
But the people who live on the road don't benefit, because as Ed stated, we're used to walking

838
01:21:20,650 --> 01:21:21,410
on the road.

839
01:21:21,570 --> 01:21:23,810
We understand how to navigate the road.

840
01:21:24,850 --> 01:21:31,450
And then when I look at the right of way, a 100% appreciate the fact that the Mayor and

841
01:21:31,450 --> 01:21:37,490
Council has said we don't want to impact private property, so some of the other enhancements

842
01:21:37,490 --> 01:21:45,050
proposed earlier have been sort of tabled at this point, but we do have to do the right

843
01:21:45,050 --> 01:21:45,510
thing.

844
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:50,630
And the right thing is not destroying my neighbors front yards.

845
01:21:51,310 --> 01:21:57,930
And it is right of way, but it is also a rural road with character and trees and things

846
01:21:57,930 --> 01:22:04,870
that people love about Chan Hassan and I don't think all our roads need to look big wide

847
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:10,870
open with big trails and big paths. And I think when you put people on that path, like

848
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:16,010
the bikers who come down the road, like the bike clubs, they don't use the path. They don't

849
01:22:16,010 --> 01:22:22,990
use the path on powers. They use the road. So I just look at it and say it feels like

850
01:22:22,990 --> 01:22:27,770
a lot of money and you're not going to get the value out of it and you're going to destroy

851
01:22:27,770 --> 01:22:34,950
some people's homes. And I think that's really sad. It's sad to see a community like ours

852
01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:38,350
not consider our neighbors. Thank you.

853
01:22:39,050 --> 01:22:39,530
I

854
01:22:45,260 --> 01:22:50,440
just a quick comment. My name is Jamie Crockara. I live at 860 Fox Court. For those of us who

855
01:22:50,440 --> 01:22:55,500
live in the Fox Chase neighborhood, we normally walk either that path down a lotus lake or just

856
01:22:55,500 --> 01:22:58,860
up ridge roads. So we're not really going to be using that pleasant view road path anyway.

857
01:22:58,860 --> 01:23:04,360
way. I am very much against having a path on this west end of Pleasant View Road. I completely

858
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:09,020
agree with the other comments, especially Ms. Bedore about. Psychologically as a driver,

859
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:14,600
if I see a path on that road, I feel that I can go faster. And if the number one goal here

860
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:19,980
is safety, and to reduce speed, and it is absolutely true, we got to reduce speed on Pleasant

861
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:24,740
View Road. I just feel having that path there, you're going to see an opening, you're going

862
01:23:24,740 --> 01:23:28,160
to see something wider, you're going to feel that you can go faster when that's absolutely

863
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:34,080
not the goal of this, right? So, I don't think the path is needed. The destruction of

864
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:38,700
people's property, I think, is unnecessary. If we can't put a path along the whole thing,

865
01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:42,620
I just don't see why. We should do it in a portion of it. Thank you.

866
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:43,400
Thank you, sir.

867
01:23:51,180 --> 01:23:55,980
Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Michelle Bedor. I live at 860

868
01:23:55,980 --> 01:24:03,040
Pleasant View Road. I grew up on 910 Pleasant View Road and have owned my property since

869
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:09,740
92 and I agree with what folks have said before me, my neighbors and family.

870
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:16,920
So speed of cars is our main concern.

871
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,660
When I go out step out to get my mail, I nearly get hit by a car.

872
01:24:23,460 --> 01:24:29,500
They swerve, they come up so fast, blind curve, and I've wished that we could have some kind

873
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:38,080
of safety thing, and I do appreciate some of the measures outlined about how they could

874
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,300
deal with that.

875
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:48,200
But I find that to be more important than this relatively short path that just seems

876
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,100
kind of silly like where are you going.

877
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:57,120
The portion of Pleasant View Road passed that S-curve, kind of wide open.

878
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,840
you can see I don't think anyone's concerned

879
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:25,560
We need some kind of a safety, but I also want to stand up for some of my neighbors who will be greatly impacted. It wasn't discussed in the presentation, but the open house. I did learn that they will dramatically be cutting into people's property and driveways and creating problems for them. Also losing trees.

880
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:33,320
and so we like the character, so it's just to repeat what others have said actually but

881
01:25:35,580 --> 01:25:43,420
and I have rental property as well at $8.90 and I have a lake lot. I do have three assessments

882
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:52,160
so if I could count three times I would appreciate that so I won't come up each time I thought about it

883
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:58,320
But I thought I'd leave the, yeah, so anyway, thank you for your time.

884
01:25:58,660 --> 01:25:58,980
Thank you.

885
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:14,400
Good evening.

886
01:26:14,780 --> 01:26:15,520
I'm Alex Wesslam.

887
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:18,340
I currently live at 825 Pleasant Fee Road.

888
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,660
I am apparently the new kid on the block.

889
01:26:20,780 --> 01:26:22,260
I've only lived there for 20 years.

890
01:26:22,540 --> 01:26:25,700
I live in between Tom and across the street from Ed.

891
01:26:26,420 --> 01:26:32,120
I was jealous of watching Ed's kids playing the batting cage grown up 20 years ago.

892
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,800
But we've heard about speed a number of times tonight.

893
01:26:37,020 --> 01:26:41,660
Pleasant View is a 25-month-hour zone talked about standards and variances.

894
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:46,240
We designed it for 30, people are going to drive 30.

895
01:26:46,820 --> 01:26:49,220
If we designed it for 30, people are going to drive 40.

896
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:51,560
They're already driving 10 to 15 over.

897
01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:59,080
Michelle made a comment about going out to mailboxes, blind corners again.

898
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,740
and I think we all appreciate reducing the blindness

899
01:27:03,740 --> 01:27:05,720
of those corners and improving that safety.

900
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,380
As it pertains to the path,

901
01:27:09,540 --> 01:27:11,480
I'm right on the curve right next to the guardrail.

902
01:27:12,180 --> 01:27:15,480
The question was asked about where that path would go

903
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,420
and all of it would go on the south side.

904
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,880
We're already really close to the road.

905
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,040
Our driveway is short.

906
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:23,880
Talk about standards and variances.

907
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,940
I'm not sure my current driveway would pass

908
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,860
city planning as it speaks.

909
01:27:27,860 --> 01:27:31,620
weeks and now we're talking about taking another four to eight feet off of it in addition.

910
01:27:33,860 --> 01:27:38,520
With that path going along that guardrail, I mean that is a substantial retaining wall

911
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,200
that would have to get put in place for that.

912
01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:44,880
I'm not sure the cost of that has fully been understood.

913
01:27:47,860 --> 01:27:52,080
Work out in the yard all the time talking with neighbors kind of straw pulling about a path

914
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,240
or a designated walk zone.

915
01:27:54,240 --> 01:28:02,360
I'm not sure where we went from having no designated path to a city street wide, eight-foot wide path.

916
01:28:02,580 --> 01:28:04,940
That's kind of isolated from the road.

917
01:28:05,900 --> 01:28:15,260
I think we all could find some sort of moderate compromise at our street or excuse me at our driveway.

918
01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:19,240
We're anywhere between 26 and 20 feet wide on Pleasantfield Road.

919
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:24,780
The feasibility study in section B had a 22-foot wide cross-section.

920
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:30,940
So with that existing 26 feet, we could have four or five feet inherently built into the

921
01:28:30,940 --> 01:28:36,340
width of the road, with some designated or strategic fog lines or striping.

922
01:28:38,440 --> 01:28:45,260
Eight feet seems pretty aggressive or pretty wide for, again, something that would not get

923
01:28:45,260 --> 01:28:46,280
used by road bikers.

924
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,020
We've hosted tour to Tonka Down Pleasant few a number of times.

925
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,420
They would not have used that during the race or the ride.

926
01:28:54,040 --> 01:29:00,820
But a 26 foot wide road with a four foot or a five foot stripe shoulder.

927
01:29:01,020 --> 01:29:04,460
In the base of the road, we've already kind of got a designated walk path.

928
01:29:04,660 --> 01:29:10,260
So again, I think a walk area is fine within the confines of the existing road width,

929
01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:13,520
which I think would still compromise a four or five foot walk zone.

930
01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:15,180
So, thank you.

931
01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:17,020
Great. Thank you, sir.

932
01:29:29,700 --> 01:29:31,240
Good evening, Mayor, councilmembers.

933
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:32,700
My name is John Gilbert.

934
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:34,700
I don't live unless I've eroded.

935
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,520
I live in 1641, Jerusalem Lane.

936
01:29:38,620 --> 01:29:42,360
And I grew up in an area on the east coast that had a lot of roads like this.

937
01:29:42,780 --> 01:29:43,620
I rode my bikes on them.

938
01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:44,560
I learned to drive on them.

939
01:29:45,140 --> 01:29:46,480
I think about this trail.

940
01:29:47,020 --> 01:29:51,660
I'd say pass on the path because of all the reasons that everybody said here.

941
01:29:51,660 --> 01:29:56,060
I think the engineering shows that an improved road is going to give you the safety that you need.

942
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,960
And if the pedestrians see cars coming and they have a clearer...

943
01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:28,500
So, I support all the comments here, and think that the improvement in the road will result in two things, improved safety. But if I listen to my gut, and if I had a sedan with good struts, I might think that the improved road might give me more options to test them out a little bit. On the other hand, if the road is better, and this not as bumpy, which is some of the character that you come to learn about in country roads,

944
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:36,780
You slow down, you maybe have more control when you're on that surface, and if you see something, you have more time to react, especially if they clear from trees.

945
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,880
So I appreciate everybody's comments, I agree with the people that have spoken.

946
01:30:41,660 --> 01:30:42,460
Thank you, Mr. Gilbert.

947
01:30:54,180 --> 01:31:02,000
I am Mayor Council, my name is Rick Opat, I live at 561 Indian Hill Road, so it's near the very narrow section that we keep talking about.

948
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:08,880
I don't have a lot of prepared comments about my section, but I didn't want to speak and support the people who are spoke about their properties.

949
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,900
And for me on this path, I agree with, certainly with Ed and with Robin.

950
01:31:13,540 --> 01:31:16,020
I run on this road, I walk my dogs on this road.

951
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,460
I drive on this road probably no less than five to ten times a day.

952
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,120
Obviously I don't go west very often right now, but normally I do.

953
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:27,360
I feel like there's a lot of psychological perception putting a path and it's only going

954
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,420
to make people drive faster.

955
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,280
I've never seen a we-host tour to talk every weekend on a road.

956
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,960
I never see less than four wide bikes.

957
01:31:35,180 --> 01:31:37,040
They're not going to use the bike path in my opinion.

958
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,780
I don't think the city needs to spend extra money, and by and large, the biggest thing

959
01:31:41,780 --> 01:31:45,000
I moved your five years ago, so I'm way younger than all these people.

960
01:31:45,300 --> 01:31:51,360
But the beauty of this road's what drew me to it, the trees, the fall, I honestly will

961
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,940
say it over and over again, speeding is our issue on this road.

962
01:31:54,740 --> 01:31:58,920
I've seen if the stop signs, I would challenge you 80% of people don't stop those stop signs

963
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,280
and I mean, that's a real number.

964
01:32:00,620 --> 01:32:04,880
So putting stop signs, stop a horseshoe curve, I don't think anyone's going to stop it.

965
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:20,900
You don't enforce them, nothing else will stop, so anyway, in summary I think I'm definitely in support of all them not having a trail, so I just want to come up and show that support and thank you for all the work, Charlie, I appreciate all the proposed safety improvements, the water work's been done and I really appreciate all the comments so thank you.

966
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:22,220
Thank you,

967
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:37,590
but anyone else likes to come forward before I close the public hearing, once I close the public hearing, we don't take any more public comment.

968
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:48,130
So, often time there's people debating whether or not they want to come forward, so I'll give you one last chance to step forward and make your comments heard before I close it.

969
01:32:48,810 --> 01:32:50,730
Okay, there's always, there is.

970
01:32:58,020 --> 01:33:02,300
Mayor and City Council, my colleagues and I have live at 830 Pleasantville Road.

971
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,760
I actually grew up in the house that I'm in and then acquired it from my parents.

972
01:33:07,540 --> 01:33:13,900
so I've seen Pleasant View actually when it was a dirt road when we first moved in so yeah

973
01:33:13,900 --> 01:33:21,420
I don't think we need the path I've run it kids have run it walk the dog it just all it would do I

974
01:33:21,420 --> 01:33:28,640
live on the curve literally people shoot around that curve already when I pull out or pull in I just go

975
01:33:29,860 --> 01:33:36,360
because you just sort of like well I gotta go and they are people are not driving 25 there

976
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:42,400
anywhere from 30 to 45. And they're not paying attention. So I think a walking path,

977
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:48,760
not necessary, this is my opinion. So I think we're good the way the road is.

978
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:50,640
Great, thank you for coming forward, sir.

979
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,380
All right, any last takers before I close the public hearing.

980
01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:09,280
All right, I hear by close the public hearing and bring it back to City Council first with

981
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,940
With questions that may have arisen for Mr. Howley,

982
01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:18,070
I have just a couple.

983
01:34:18,610 --> 01:34:26,850
In terms of next steps, obviously, if this gets approved to move forward with ordering

984
01:34:26,850 --> 01:34:31,270
the project, I know you said that there will be additional public open houses.

985
01:34:31,930 --> 01:34:37,730
I think the question that I have, we heard loud and clear about the trail which I know council

986
01:34:37,730 --> 01:34:43,110
will provide feedback, but in terms of the other safety impacts, a couple things that I think

987
01:34:43,110 --> 01:34:50,590
are going to be really important to make clear visually to residents. We hear a lot about

988
01:34:50,590 --> 01:34:58,090
it being a country road and the look and feel of it. And so, one of the safety improvements

989
01:34:58,090 --> 01:34:59,970
is striping. And then

990
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:27,520
That does change the look of a road. Obviously, it's a safety improvement, but when you stripe it and have fog lines that changes the look and feel. And so I just ask that if this moves forward, that we show it clearly. So we can get feedback from residents on whether or not before we go into final design that we have a better understanding of the feeling on that.

991
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,660
And I would also like part of that conversation.

992
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:36,940
I know you had an entire list, but also that hoarse shoe curve intersection.

993
01:35:37,660 --> 01:35:43,120
I know that came up in our work session in terms of whether or not a stop sign would work,

994
01:35:43,140 --> 01:35:49,380
wouldn't work in just the effectiveness of that, just to have that come back as part of the conversation for final design.

995
01:35:51,180 --> 01:35:58,880
and then I will, I'll say it by comments and feedback for the trail and I'll let council

996
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,560
speak first, but I just wanted to make sure that if we move forward that we really are

997
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:08,780
clear in terms of some of those safety improvements and the overall look and feel of that road,

998
01:36:08,860 --> 01:36:11,020
I think are important to be clear for our residents.

999
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,100
Charlie is looking, Mr. Howley is looking for feedback on the trail.

1000
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:24,580
So if Council could provide your opinion toward for Mr. Howley and then any additional comments that you have, I'd ask for that now, please.

1001
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:27,740
Anyone would like to go first.

1002
01:36:29,020 --> 01:36:36,460
Okay, I'll go first. I'll share some comments on this. Mr. Howley, first of all, thanks for putting all this together.

1003
01:36:36,700 --> 01:36:39,140
We've seen a couple different iterations on this.

1004
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:45,800
But aside from all of the comments that we heard about against the trail, the other thing we also just need to take a step back and

1005
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:51,820
realize is I also echoed a lot of what you said from the open house that people are appreciative of this project.

1006
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,340
The road needs to get done. It's not a question of whether or not we do this project.

1007
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,240
We just have this one trail that is getting a lot of attention.

1008
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:05,800
I think it's great that we're evaluating whether or not this trail should go in.

1009
01:37:06,020 --> 01:37:12,780
If you look at the city map, on the website there's a designated map that shows all of the trails in the city.

1010
01:37:12,780 --> 01:37:17,420
And there's one region up in that upper corner that doesn't have a lot of trails connected to do it.

1011
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,920
So I think it's the right time to ask whether or not the trail should go in and say,

1012
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:27,300
are there a collection of homes that could benefit being connected to the greater trail system?

1013
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:33,080
And if the road's getting redone, now is the time to evaluate whether or not there should be end or not.

1014
01:37:33,220 --> 01:37:37,020
And I think that that is the right, now is the right time to be asking these questions.

1015
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,720
I do, however, will be on the side against the trail.

1016
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:50,300
I think residents have spoken loud and clear both tonight with their voice and also in my inbox, which has been very clear.

1017
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:57,700
I know the packet was very split 50-50, so heading into when the packet was first loaded, it was pretty close.

1018
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:06,960
But between what was in my inbox and what we've heard tonight, I would be against the trail moving forward.

1019
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:27,440
Again, it was the right thing to evaluate to determine if we should have it, but I do think that this section of road, I think a lot of residents brought up some very valid points that I hope we see moving forward as it progresses, but I am in favor of the project I am not in favor of the trail.

1020
01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:34,220
Thank you, Councilman Kimber, Councilman Van Oven.

1021
01:38:37,370 --> 01:38:43,270
We have come a long way on this project and I have attended every meeting that we've

1022
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:48,270
had on it whether it's public input or whether it's city council work sessions.

1023
01:38:49,710 --> 01:38:53,870
And I live off of Pleasant View, so I live in Horseshoe, Curve.

1024
01:38:54,710 --> 01:39:18,590
One of the first emails, actually the first email I ever wrote to the city in 2018, was asking the then city outing me who I was emailing, basically saying it's really nice that I have a park within a half a mile of my house, but how do I gain safe passage to it for my children?

1025
01:39:19,790 --> 01:39:23,490
And subsequently got involved in the city, obviously.

1026
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:32,250
Over the last few months, we as a city council have toiled on how we solve this problem and

1027
01:39:32,250 --> 01:39:34,950
you've seen us go through multiple iterations.

1028
01:39:35,610 --> 01:39:40,890
And I will admit that personally I've gone through multiple iterations of what I believe

1029
01:39:40,890 --> 01:39:42,210
should happen on this corridor.

1030
01:39:42,210 --> 01:39:47,050
or given a magic wand and doing whatever we wanted,

1031
01:39:47,550 --> 01:39:50,790
I would love to see safe passage across the whole thing.

1032
01:39:50,970 --> 01:39:53,330
I hear comments from some folks tonight

1033
01:39:54,130 --> 01:39:57,530
that cause me a little concern

1034
01:39:57,530 --> 01:39:59,850
because they're at odds with each other, right?

1035
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:29,640
If on one hand we've learned and we understand how to navigate this road, as Ms. Bedore said, but on the other hand, we find ourselves taking refuge in people's driveways and in the road entrances because the traffic is so bad and so fast. My brain says, wouldn't it be safer if there were a place for people to walk? And the marathon runner in me knows that that is true.

1036
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:39,910
So on the other hand, the city seems pretty split over this decision, and I myself have

1037
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:46,010
been somewhat split, although I emailed Robin a day or two ago and said, I am in favor

1038
01:40:46,010 --> 01:40:46,530
of a trail.

1039
01:40:47,610 --> 01:40:53,450
But I will admit that since then, in the emails that I've received and more of the reflection

1040
01:40:53,450 --> 01:41:00,370
that I've done, there may be a piece of me that is holding on to the old idea that we could

1041
01:41:00,370 --> 01:41:07,590
put a passage throughout this entire thing, which is absolutely what I and others originally

1042
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:13,470
wanted and I still have people emailing me asking me why we're not enacting eminent domain

1043
01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:19,070
to take property all along this thing so that we can create that trail. I was never for

1044
01:41:19,070 --> 01:41:29,750
that. This council has never been for that. So I am in favor of a path, but I'm not

1045
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:34,710
not as willing to fight for it as I once was, just to be perfectly honest.

1046
01:41:35,130 --> 01:41:41,590
And so, the project itself, there's no doubt in my mind, I'm approving this project tonight.

1047
01:41:41,790 --> 01:41:51,230
As far as this portion, this path, I guess you could say I'm still sitting right down the middle,

1048
01:41:52,250 --> 01:41:57,030
but I'm not at a position where I feel like I'm going to fight for it like I once was.

1049
01:41:57,030 --> 01:42:04,130
Given the feedback that I received and part of that is simply, although I believe there should be a path there,

1050
01:42:04,590 --> 01:42:08,770
my job here is not to represent myself, my job is to represent all of you.

1051
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:17,490
And so, I don't understand why we wouldn't want there, I get that you don't want changes in the front yard.

1052
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:26,870
The safety concerns don't, they don't click with me, but at the same time it's my job to

1053
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:28,770
to represent something bigger than my own opinion.

1054
01:42:29,070 --> 01:42:30,670
So that's where I stand on the path.

1055
01:42:31,330 --> 01:42:32,790
Thank you, Councilman.

1056
01:42:33,190 --> 01:42:34,090
Councilman McDonald.

1057
01:42:36,610 --> 01:42:37,910
Well, thank you.

1058
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,760
To be there, there's two parts to this.

1059
01:42:42,980 --> 01:42:44,200
There is the road part.

1060
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,200
And so I separate that from the trail.

1061
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,780
As I said, I've lived in this area for four years.

1062
01:42:51,660 --> 01:42:54,560
I understand the whole thing about wanting to keep it

1063
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,620
a country road, but realistically,

1064
01:42:57,620 --> 01:43:04,520
that's going to be hard to do. There are only two east-west roads that get you

1065
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:10,700
around Lotus Lake. This is one and Highway 5 is the other. So people go into

1066
01:43:10,700 --> 01:43:15,780
Excelsior and all like that will always be taking this road. They always have

1067
01:43:15,780 --> 01:43:20,900
and they always will. That's why my primary thing was to look at okay can we

1068
01:43:20,900 --> 01:43:25,980
improve the safety of this road because from this stretch all the way down to

1069
01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:33,540
where the stop signs that, you know, just before a horse you curve down there, that road

1070
01:43:33,540 --> 01:43:34,260
is very narrow.

1071
01:43:34,780 --> 01:43:41,240
And there's a lot of people that's bold access getting onto Lotus Lake, I see a lot

1072
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,780
of people walking across that road all the time.

1073
01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:51,560
So I understand you're concerned about the trail on the road and widening the road and

1074
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,820
wanting to keep it a narrow road.

1075
01:43:54,740 --> 01:44:10,720
I'm not against that, but I'm just saying that I do think we need to improve it because again this is a corridor going east west to get you over to 17 and there's nothing we can do to stop people from using it.

1076
01:44:10,900 --> 01:44:12,740
They're going to continue to use it.

1077
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,180
The question is it needs to be safe.

1078
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:22,140
I agree because I have witnessed people do take that curve down there way too fast.

1079
01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:27,080
And a lot of it's because they don't understand what's on the other side of the curve.

1080
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:34,440
So that's why I've asked Mr. Holly about, okay, the safety, what can we do to improve all of that.

1081
01:44:35,460 --> 01:44:42,760
I think the city has done as much as we can without, again, taking property straightened out the curve.

1082
01:44:43,420 --> 01:44:49,220
Maybe a condemnate a house or two that's right on the curve so we could totally straighten it out.

1083
01:44:49,980 --> 01:44:51,760
That's just not a feasible approach.

1084
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:58,520
So we have to live with what we have to live with the other thing I remember is when I moved out here

1085
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:16,920
All those years ago, the biggest thing everyone liked about the area was there were no sidewalks. People could walk in their streets. That's kind of been a tradition, especially in that northern part of Chanhasan for all those years.

1086
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:29,860
So I do want to see the road improved. It cannot continue as it is. It just becomes more and more unsafe and at that point we're going to end up with a

1087
01:45:29,860 --> 01:45:36,500
serious accidents sometime. I think it was a good point that was raised that

1088
01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:41,740
okay if I do widen the curve and I put a trail in there yeah somebody coming

1089
01:45:41,740 --> 01:45:45,900
around that curve is kind of think okay well I can use that to get around the

1090
01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:50,580
curve and sure enough they'll probably cheat and drive a little bit more to the

1091
01:45:50,580 --> 01:46:03,220
right to try to cut that curve and get around it. So again, I agree with my colleague

1092
01:46:03,220 --> 01:46:10,840
here that, yeah, the thing is there should probably be a trail from powers all the way

1093
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:16,780
over to one-on-one, but that's in an ideal world. And I think that that's in a world

1094
01:46:16,780 --> 01:46:46,180
before and we plop all these houses in there, so I'm not sure I can support a trail just because of that because what's the utility of it, where's it going, who's it going to serve, I have questions about that, you know, without a total connection and especially to the people that I think are further down around the other curb when you go around the Civil War House, they could benefit from a trail.

1095
01:46:46,180 --> 01:46:57,220
We're not going to put one down there and I think it's a lot more dangerous on that stretch of road because again, as I said, that's where people are going to cross to their boat ramps.

1096
01:46:57,380 --> 01:47:01,920
So the only thing that we can really do is try to make the road as safe as possible.

1097
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:09,320
I think what Mr. Holly is talking about as far as painting and road, putting restrictions on the lanes and those things.

1098
01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:13,600
I think that will help to again curb the traffic.

1099
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:22,140
We're not going to change the overall design, it would still be a 25 mile per hour road as it always has been.

1100
01:47:22,980 --> 01:47:30,280
We're not going to widen it or make it that much of a thoroughfare or that attractive as a cut-through.

1101
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:41,300
But I just raised the issue that no matter what we do, that is a corridor across the northern part of low slake.

1102
01:47:41,300 --> 01:47:44,180
and there's nothing else we can do about it.

1103
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,120
So I'm in favor of the road.

1104
01:47:50,020 --> 01:47:53,660
I'm just right now, I haven't been shown that there's

1105
01:47:53,660 --> 01:47:58,420
great utility in doing the trail.

1106
01:47:58,820 --> 01:48:06,020
Unless we were going to put a guard between that and the road

1107
01:48:06,020 --> 01:48:08,500
way, but then at that point, we start

1108
01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:15,780
taken up even more room and that's not possible. So I'm in favor of the road but not to trail.

1109
01:48:18,190 --> 01:48:26,010
Great. Thank you, Council. Mr. Healy, I will be a little more straightforward. Safety

1110
01:48:26,010 --> 01:48:31,250
improvements, absolutely. Yes, please continue to check on some of those other variables and I do not

1111
01:48:31,250 --> 01:48:39,210
support the trail. It hasn't been there. I don't think it needs to be added. People are used to

1112
01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:43,470
driving that road without the trail, it changes the dynamic when all of a sudden you have

1113
01:48:43,470 --> 01:48:48,430
it on a portion of the road but not all the way through so I think it gets more dangerous

1114
01:48:48,430 --> 01:48:53,250
that way and safety is number one so I would not support adding the trail.

1115
01:48:54,550 --> 01:49:00,130
So thank you for your work on this, I know it's gone through a lot of iterations, appreciate

1116
01:49:00,130 --> 01:49:05,110
your continued engagement with the public, I am confident that they will continue to reach

1117
01:49:05,110 --> 01:49:13,090
out with you with questions and feedback, and did you highlight another public comment

1118
01:49:13,650 --> 01:49:19,390
or neighborhood meeting? Will there be another one? Public open house in February, anything

1119
01:49:19,390 --> 01:49:21,590
before the final design comes back to us?

1120
01:49:22,130 --> 01:49:28,390
Mayor council, we can, we typically don't, but we're not opposed to it. And as you mentioned

1121
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:33,970
earlier, if there's some of these other strategies that could be seen as affecting the character,

1122
01:49:33,970 --> 01:49:38,390
Maybe we should get out in front of that a little bit, so we can certainly do that.

1123
01:49:38,670 --> 01:49:44,490
Okay, I know the timing is tight with it still coming back for final design, but

1124
01:49:44,490 --> 01:49:50,790
if there is an opportunity either to push it out through the project page,

1125
01:49:51,010 --> 01:49:54,810
or if we think that it changes enough or the images aren't clear enough,

1126
01:49:54,810 --> 01:49:59,970
if we could do another neighborhood open house to at least provide some visuals of what

1127
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,020
What some of the character changes or the striping would be, I think that would be helpful just to collect that feedback before we go into final design. So if it can work, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, I just encourage us to put something out from the project page and then continue to hear from residents as this project moves forward. But appreciate everybody's engagement and feedback throughout the process and continue. I know you will all continue to stay tuned to what's going on.

1128
01:50:29,020 --> 01:50:34,780
but appreciate your engagement thus far and we look forward to hearing from you as we move forward.

1129
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,780
So thank you for being here tonight and thank you for the emails and

1130
01:50:37,780 --> 01:50:43,760
phone calls as always helpful for us to hear those that are impacted by a project.

1131
01:50:43,940 --> 01:50:46,080
So thank you for being here tonight and appreciate it.

1132
01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:48,340
And thank you again, Mr. Howley.

1133
01:50:48,940 --> 01:50:52,100
All right, council, I'll return it back to you for emotion please.

1134
01:50:53,980 --> 01:50:59,520
are mayor. I'll make the motion that I forgot where I was at.

1135
01:51:01,740 --> 01:51:03,480
I'll make the motion that

1136
01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:10,120
the Chan-Hasson City Council adopts a resolution except in the feasibility study ordering the

1137
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:15,520
improvements and authorizing preparation of plans and specifications for the pleasant

1138
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,940
a few road rehabilitation projects.

1139
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:20,940
Thank you, Councilman McDonald, is there a second?

1140
01:51:21,180 --> 01:51:21,460
Second.

1141
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:23,380
Thank you, Councilman Van Oven.

1142
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,920
We have a valid motion in second.

1143
01:51:26,140 --> 01:51:27,620
All those in favor, please say aye.

1144
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:28,400
All in aye.

1145
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:29,500
Those opposed, nay.

1146
01:51:30,140 --> 01:51:32,080
That motion carries 4-0.

1147
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:34,780
Thank you, again, everybody, appreciate it.

1148
01:51:35,700 --> 01:51:38,360
Next we'll move forward to general business,

1149
01:51:38,620 --> 01:51:43,480
and this is to consider the bid package number two

1150
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:45,260
for the Chan-Hasson Community Center.

1151
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:49,440
Thank you, Mayor.

1152
01:51:50,700 --> 01:51:55,480
As you noted tonight, the Council is considering awarding bid package number two,

1153
01:51:55,960 --> 01:52:00,400
which represents the remaining construction to complete the Chan-Hasson Community Center.

1154
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:08,600
Previous bids for package one and one A, which were items with long lead times like concrete and structural steel.

1155
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,300
We're awarded back in April of 2026.

1156
01:52:15,190 --> 01:52:30,290
We have talked about this project on a number of occasions, so there is a timeline included in the council packet detailing the many major milestones that have occurred since the referendum in November of 2024.

1157
01:52:30,990 --> 01:52:44,190
At previous meetings to this, we have talked extensively about the work that occurred from 2022 to 2024 and even before then that significant community engagement and planning for

1158
01:52:44,190 --> 01:52:48,650
this project. So we're not going to go back and do that, but that's certainly available

1159
01:52:48,650 --> 01:52:50,750
if there is anyone that is interested.

1160
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,460
We've talked quite a length about this project,

1161
01:52:57,460 --> 01:53:04,080
but if you could just go back one for me, Matt. No problem. The project itself consists of two

1162
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:09,960
ice rings, an indoor playground, a substantial concession area, community gathering rooms,

1163
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:17,320
rooms, a field house, which includes both basketball, multi-sport flooring, and turf.

1164
01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:23,340
It has an indoor walking track and a catering kitchen that's associated with that community

1165
01:53:23,340 --> 01:53:24,200
gathering room.

1166
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:29,580
All of the amenities are as they were presented at the time of referendum, with the exception

1167
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:34,540
that there was a shell space to be rented to a private restaurant tour.

1168
01:53:34,540 --> 01:53:46,840
In working through the design that is now the community gathering rooms with the catering kitchen, and then the concession stand was beefed up to still provide some of that food amenity.

1169
01:53:47,900 --> 01:53:55,820
When taking this project to bid we're working with RGM construction, who is here tonight to entertain any questions after the presentation if there are any.

1170
01:53:56,460 --> 01:54:01,320
Taking this project to bid, we did receive what they call good bid coverage.

1171
01:54:02,180 --> 01:54:07,560
145 bids over 44 scopes of work, getting over three bids per category,

1172
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:13,840
demonstrating that there's strong interest in the project and that we can have confidence in the pricing that we received.

1173
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:19,260
It's inclusive of all construction costs, and then we'll go to the next slide, please.

1174
01:54:19,260 --> 01:54:27,560
These, the bid alternates that are included in what you're considering tonight are

1175
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:31,340
adderant and operable partitions to both the dance studio and party rooms.

1176
01:54:31,860 --> 01:54:35,740
So those rooms will be able to be used as one large room or two small rooms.

1177
01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:41,100
The wood floor in lieu of a rubber flooring in the field house.

1178
01:54:41,340 --> 01:54:45,000
There is a ice arena, one connection walkway.

1179
01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:46,780
There's service elevator.

1180
01:54:46,780 --> 01:54:53,140
There is a rubber sports flooring coating on the walking track, a sky-fold partition at the community room

1181
01:54:53,140 --> 01:54:59,900
Similar to that first item that allows it to be used as one big item or two smaller rooms and then they're also

1182
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,500
There is an allowance for life safety code requirements, what we've referred to in the past as fire proofing. We are still working with the project team, with the architects, to find ways to reduce that line item, but we're not able to offer resolution to that tonight. And so that amount is included in the total project cost, which you can see is 82,473,546. The contract amounts that are approved, of course, are the

1183
01:55:29,500 --> 01:55:36,840
66.8 million because the total project cost does include things like land, project management fees,

1184
01:55:37,140 --> 01:55:40,280
architecture fees, etc. Next slide, please.

1185
01:55:40,780 --> 01:55:45,440
These are just some design and renderings, let's see if this, yeah.

1186
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:49,840
So I don't expect that anyone would be able to read the floor plans, but these were included

1187
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:50,600
in the packet.

1188
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:56,800
It's a two level building, you can see on the left of the screen the two ice rinks and on the

1189
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:01,520
right, the courts and turf field, and then in the center corridor you have the community

1190
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,380
room, the catering kitchen, a large number of restrooms.

1191
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:11,000
The indoor playground is the blue box in the upper right, and the concessions are kind

1192
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,180
of the pink on the corner of that hallway.

1193
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:19,620
And then the next page shows that lower level, kind of the same amenities, different view,

1194
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:24,480
except for when you look in that center corridor, we've got a small tenant space.

1195
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:30,880
we have the workout facility, some back-of-house storage, more

1196
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:35,040
restrooms, showers, things like that, and then you can see the locker rooms for

1197
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,860
the rings on the left of the plan side. So again, this is posted online for

1198
01:56:38,860 --> 01:56:43,220
anyone to look at. And then the architects we're working with the BKV group have

1199
01:56:43,220 --> 01:56:47,760
provided these updated renderings that show what the building will look like with

1200
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:52,100
all of the changes that have been made over time and the adults that have been

1201
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:57,500
included. So this is the front of the building, a couple of different seasonal views from

1202
01:56:57,500 --> 01:57:02,460
both the front and the back perspective. You can see that there is a dry vial that goes

1203
01:57:02,460 --> 01:57:09,060
around the entire building and there is a back patio that will be an amenity to be used

1204
01:57:09,060 --> 01:57:14,180
with the community room as well as providing an overhang for that lower level entrance.

1205
01:57:14,860 --> 01:57:20,800
That will make a great spot for dropping off hockey teams or kids with hockey bags.

1206
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,760
A couple of views of what that front entrance will look like.

1207
01:57:25,780 --> 01:57:31,360
The community center is not intended to be a direct mirror or replica of the city hall

1208
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:36,920
and civic campus buildings, but is intended to have some similar design elements that allow

1209
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:42,260
people to identify that, you know, this is a city of Chanhasen, Chanhasen Community Building.

1210
01:57:43,260 --> 01:57:46,080
All of these are posted online for people to see as well.

1211
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:50,340
a couple of interior renderings.

1212
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,120
I'll just let Matt flip through those.

1213
01:57:55,860 --> 01:58:01,340
One thing that you can really see in the renderings is that there is space for people to gather.

1214
01:58:01,540 --> 01:58:06,080
There is space for people to linger or come to the community center,

1215
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,560
even if they have no particular purpose.

1216
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:12,700
If they need somewhere to take a meeting or a break or a cup of coffee,

1217
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:18,780
Of course, many people will be waiting for kids and family members to complete activities.

1218
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:24,300
A couple of renderings here that show how that community room might be used for more formal

1219
01:58:24,300 --> 01:58:30,560
private rental events and then that workout space and you can see it's got a nice view into

1220
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:31,400
the field house.

1221
01:58:34,260 --> 01:58:38,900
So this is the schedule. If the City Council would choose to authorize the bid

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package to Awards tonight, RGM would then proceed with the contract negotiations and

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be can material program procurement and mobilization over the next few months.

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We are tentatively planning a groundbreaking for the end of this month, which the public

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would also be invited to.

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You've got site prep going on through October and then real construction beginning in October

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with substantial completion by September of 2028.

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As the council knows, we had originally hoped and projected that we would be able to open

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the building in May of 2028, and we, that has changed a little bit just as we've worked

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to make sure that we have all of these elements right, and that we're doing a good job managing

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the budget.

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So, as they said, RGM is here to take questions.

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as is Parking Director, Jerry Rougamer,

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the Community Center Manager, Jody Sarls.

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I can take any questions that you have,

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and you do have a suggested motion on the screen.

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Great, thank you, Ms. Hogan,

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and I know this is a topic we have discussed

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over and over and over again for the past few years,

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or a couple of years, and again recently,

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but if you do have any questions,

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please feel to ask them now,

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or if there are comments that anyone would like to make

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Complement Kimber I know you had

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Thank you for your attention that you would like to say a few things, so I'll turn it to you. Yep, great. Thank you. Councilman Bonneauvin was going down memory lane about the first time he emailed city council. So I'm going to do the little bit a little bit of the same on this one. But before I do that, I want to thank the team for sticking around the whole night. Appreciate you guys. I have no questions for you, but I do appreciate the time spent that you guys were here in the event. Someone does. But this is a meaningful approval for me.

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This is the first project that I got myself involved with when it comes to the city, and that was with the Parks and Rec Task Force.

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And that was a Park and Rec Task Force formed, I think it was in 2020, about 15 people.

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It was primarily made up of residents but we had a lot of sports groups and organizations that were a part of that as well.

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That task force had three main recommendations that we brought forward.

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The first was that a priority should be to finish the lake and path.

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That is in the works and will open later this year.

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The second was the concern around our parks and rec assets that we didn't have a dedicated funding source to make sure that we had our parks properly funded so they could be renovated in a more timely manner, because there was currently no plan.

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We haven't, we've made success in that.

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There is a funding source, it would be great if it were more, but we've got so many assets, it'd be great if we were, but at least that's in place.

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And the last recommendation was to put forward this community center.

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And that Parks and Rec Task Force took into account all of the activities and

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02:01:42,260 --> 02:01:48,380
all the amenities that we felt as a task force should be included, but also a recommendation

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on the funding source and that funding sources, what was in the referendum last November that

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has been approved. So two of those members who were on the parks and rec task force, I think

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we were three for three. We did a pretty good job. So if you're watching or listening, I'm

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glad to say that we were able to make all three of those recommendations happen. I wanted

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I wanted to also talk to two different groups about this approval as well.

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First, to the amazing people who run all of our sports activities are whether you're a club, a school, a social group.

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You have built this community to a place where people want to spend time with other people,

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whether it's in sports or a social gathering or a club or whatever that may be.

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And this venue, hopefully, is going to help you achieve that.

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I know that we've heard over the years since we've been, when talking about this, that a lot of people refer to this as the community center with two sheets of ice.

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And if you have that view on this community center, I would ask you to clearly look at the amenities in here.

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02:02:54,540 --> 02:03:01,060
The amenities and the features that we put in this facility aren't far more than two sheets of ice.

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multiple basketball courts, multiple volleyball courts, turf, walking field, fitness center, there's a place for gymnastics, for dance.

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We truly tried to build a community center for the community.

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So I know that there were people who didn't approve the referendum.

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But I took those negatives very seriously as we move this forward.

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And I think all of council that I think we all did a great job evaluating and understanding what this community truly needs.

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And that's why we did lose some amenities from the start like the restaurant, but we transition that into more community space.

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So there's more community space and there's more flexible space.

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And I couldn't be more proud of this project.

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It's again where I got started and I've been pretty quiet about this, but

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This is a very meaningful approval.

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Very excited that this is moving forward and really excited to see this happen in the community.

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So thank you, those are my comments.

1282
02:04:00,660 --> 02:04:02,180
Well said, thank you, Councilman Kimber.

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Any other comments?

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Councilman McDonald?

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02:04:10,030 --> 02:04:18,350
Well, if we're going to go down memory road, I was on the council that actually commissioned you to make that study.

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So, thank you, you did a good job.

1287
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I agree that, if people look at this, it's only two sheets of ice, you're missing a whole picture.

1288
02:04:32,090 --> 02:04:38,070
I mean, we went to a lot of effort to make sure it was more than two sheets of ice.

1289
02:04:39,170 --> 02:04:47,330
Again, we have a community space, we have all kinds of other activities that can take place within this building.

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that again right now are either spread out or non-existent within our current park and

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a direct system because we just only have the facilities.

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So, I think-

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I think, again, whenever this thing is finally built and everybody gets a chance to start to use it and look at it, I think you're going to be very, very proud of this facility within our community. And I know we've gone back and forth about a number of things as my colleague, Mr. Timber said. Yeah, one time there was a rust running here. One time there were a lot of other things that were

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We're in here, but again, what we looked at was what could the community actually use?

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02:05:34,780 --> 02:05:38,400
We listened to people and we turned that feedback around.

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I will say one of my primary things in this endeavor has been not only to initially design a building that we could use, but to find a way to make it pay for itself.

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We have gone out and we have hired a sports management company to do just that, to turn this building around so that we can run hockey tournaments, we can do volleyball tournaments, we can do dance recitals, graduations, my whole goal with this building is that it is not going to become a burden upon the community.

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You voted for us to spend the capital money and we're going to do that and there will be, you know, payments that have to come back from that and that was why we did the, uh, the surtax that we put on.

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But that's the only thing that should come back to the residents is that surtax that we have the rest of it, the operating of this facility.

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It should be able to operate and fund itself.

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I've been very adamant and very strong about that being one of my key things.

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And we've had a number of debates about how the cost has gone up and down.

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Yeah, do it inflation, do it getting materials that now cost more than they did three years ago.

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We've gone through all of that.

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And one of our biggest costs, as you see, there's $500,000 for safety.

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Well, that's because the legislature changed the rules a couple years ago.

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And now, when you look at a building, it has to meet certain safety requirements.

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And those all cost money.

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But we have no choice in that matter.

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In order for this to be a public building, we have to hear what the law dictates.

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So, we are doing our best to make sure that, again, we have something that the community can be proud of.

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I am very happy to cast my vote in favor of this project tonight.

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So, the next thing I guess I look forward to is turning a shovel of dirt and getting this thing going.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Councilman McDonald.

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I mean, Councilman Van Oven, do you want to say something?

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You know, these guys did a fantastic job, I will just say that I am proud of the blood, sweat, and tears that this group has put into what I feel is getting this right.

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It's long nights and a lot of special meetings and a lot of questions from my kids about, why do you have City Council again this week?

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So, I'm excited for the City of Chanhas and I think it's absolutely necessary, absolutely, the right thing for us to do, and to your point, this isn't just one person coming forward with an idea.

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There was an entire committee. It's been in the works for years and it's something to absolutely celebrate, so I too am looking forward to putting a shovel in the ground.

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So, and I'm happy to make a motion unless you want to think about that.

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I would like to say just a couple things and I know a lot of it will be said again at

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the groundbreaking but a big, big thank you to and a lot of people are in this room, but

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a huge thank you to RGM for just constantly pushing and pushing and helping us get those

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numbers down and going back and coming up with new ideas.

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You put a lot of extra hours in to make it happen and so really appreciate that.

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BKV from the start, you knew what the vision was from council from staff to deliver beautiful

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designs and concepts that we can all be proud of and excited about.

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SFC, a lot of acronyms, SFC to help us understand what a community center could be should be

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and help, just help us understand sheets of ice locker rooms.

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And a lot of those conversations of areas that we weren't comfortable with are familiar enough with, and they helped guide us. But so much to staff, like it, it's truly amazing. You know, Jerry, well, I mean, I don't even want to start naming people because I don't want anyone to feel left out. But the amount of hours that were spent, the calls, the designs,

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means if our residents only knew the half of how much time goes into a project like this

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they would be overwhelmed. It's a foot here, a light fixture there. Details that we don't

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have to discuss or think about that you agonize over and it is truly remarkable. It is so appreciated

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created by me, by City Council, and I know when our residents have an opportunity to walk in those doors for the first time, they will actually get to experience and witness the hard work that all of our city staff has put into bringing this project to fruition.

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and I would be remiss if I didn't think our residents

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for supporting with a referendum.

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I know it's a tough decision to agree to more taxes,

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but we appreciate their support

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in helping us pass that referendum.

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So we could move forward with this project,

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but one amazing thing I think about Chan Hassan

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is that we are a team through and through

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and I have so appreciated working with the task force

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with Council, with staff members and all of our partners, some that are here tonight in

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moving this really monumental project forward for the city. This is something forever that

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we will always be able to look back on and be proud of. So thank you to everybody that has a hand

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and has had a hand in this. Thank you for the long days, the extra nights, extra phone calls and

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conversations and the continued belief that we can get it done when there were times that we

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question whether or not we could. So thank you for the continued belief and getting us to this

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point tonight and I am so proud and appreciative of all of you. So thank you for your hard work and

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leadership. And with that, Councilman Van Oven, you may make the motion, please. Thank you, Ms. Smith.

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I'd recommend the Chan Hasen City Council Award, bid package number two, which is the remainder

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of the Chan Hasen Community Center project to RJM construction as part of the construction

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manager at risk delivery method and authorize the city manager to execute the necessary documents.

1356
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Thank you, Councilman Van Oven, is there a second?

1357
02:12:57,400 --> 02:12:57,860
Second.

1358
02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:03,440
Thank you, Councilman Kimber, with a valid motion and second, all those in favor, please say

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aye.

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Okay, those opposed nay, that motion carries 4-0.

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Congratulations, everyone, well done.

1362
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Thank you, thank you for being here tonight as well, I appreciate it.

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Any council presentations this evening?

1364
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All right, anything administratively?

1365
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Nothing on the correspondence discussion, so I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

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So moved.

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Thank you, Councilman Kimber, is there a second?

1368
02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:34,460
Thank you, Councilman McDonald.

1369
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:37,800
All those in favor of adjournment, please say aye.

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02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:42,920
Those opposed, nay, that motion carries for zero, we are adjourned.