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meeting for Monday, January 12th
order.

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This time we'll have the pledge of
allegiance. I'll give the invocation.

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[movement]

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it
stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.

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[movement]

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Lord, we thank you so much for the
opportunity to come together this
evening in the name of the community.

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We thank you for the sunshine, for
the sunshine, for the positive
attitudes and also your blessings
upon the community.

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We know we pray, Amen.

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Amen.

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[movement]

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At this time, we have our recognition
of outgoing commissioner Mr. Egner.
Yes, sir.

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On behalf of the City of Shawnee and
the City of Shawnee and the City
Commission, I just want to present to
you with this plaque and

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give you our thanks for our
appreciation for the service you give
and everything you've done.

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Thank you very much. I look forward
to working with you.

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[applause]

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Thanks, Tim.

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Yeah. Guys, it's been a pleasure to
serve with you, Todd, Brian, Corey,
Dean, came in there.

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Uh, you guys have got this thing
running really well.

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Thank you. You really do. It's good.

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Tim, congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Tim.

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Have a good one.

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[movement]

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At this time, we have a swearing-in
ceremony for re-elected and elected
commissioners.

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We'll do it by their by the podium.

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[movement]

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Will you raise your right hand.

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Do you solemnly swear to support the
Constitution of the United States and
the Constitution of the state of
Kansas

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and faithfully discharge the duties
of City Commissioner of Shawnee,
Kansas? So help you God.

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I do.

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Okay, you can have each sign your
oath.

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[paper shuffling]

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[typing]

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[phone ringing]

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Thank you.

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[movement]

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All righty.

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Next up, we have the approval of the
agenda.

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So wish to make any additions or
subtractions to the agenda?

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Request an executive session
discussed non-elected personnel
before Commission comments.

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I move we approve the agenda.

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Does it mend it?

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Yes.

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Perfect.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Moving on to the consent agenda.

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The consent agenda is used by cities
to approve non-controversial or
routine matters by a single motion
vote of the City Commission.

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Examples of such items include
approval of minutes, payment of
claims, routine renewal of leases,
routine resolutions, and certain
staff reports.

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If any commissioner wants to discuss
any commissioner wants to discuss any
item on the consent agenda, then I
will separating and considering it at
a later time on the agenda.

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Specifically on the consent agenda
are the minutes from the City
Commission meeting dated December
8th, 2025.

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Warrant registered dated December
10th, 2025.

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Warrant registered dated December
17th, 2025.

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Warrant registered dated December
23rd, 2025.

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Warrant registered dated December
30th, 2025.

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Warrant registered dated January 7th,
2026 and review various board and
committee minutes and reports.

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Do want to have any items I wish to
pull and discuss?

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Seeing none, is there a motion to
approve the consent agenda?

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I'll make a motion.

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A motion. Is there a second?

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Second.

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We have a motion in second. All those
in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Moving on to item eight.

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Commission reorganization.

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Select mayor and vice mayor.

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City ordinance requires the governing
body to reorganize annually.

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City code, section 2.04.0.

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30 and 2.04.040 are attached for
review.

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These sections outline the role of
chairman and vice chairman.

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At this time there's no financial
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legal consideration.

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At this time we'll select a mayor and
vice mayor.

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The floor is open for nominations.

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And in the past, I've always advised
the commission that

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a commissioner can nominate a fellow
commissioner,

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a commissioner can nominate
themselves,

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and our past practice has been not to
require a second

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before going to a vote,

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uh, if there are more than one
nomination.

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So.

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I move Jacob be the mayor.

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I second that.

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It's okay, you can still second it.

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Good. Second that.

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Accept the nomination.

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Any additional nominations?

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Seeing none, all in favor say I.

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Aye. Aye. Aye.

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Any opposed?

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This time we'll select the vice
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Any nominations?

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I nominate Tim Farell.

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You accept?

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Yeah, I guess.

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Yeah, I will.

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I mean motion for unless somebody
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Any additional nominations?

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Nobody else wants to.

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I'll do it if you don't want to do
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If you want to do it.

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Well, Kevin's fine too.

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I think it's good to have somebody
different.

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I haven't done much. I mean, when
you're gone.

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If you want to do it, Kevin, that's
great with me.

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I think you do a heck of a job.

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Except the nomination.

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I withdraw for all my nominations.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Nomination Commissioner Berthoud.

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Any additional nominations?

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Seeing none, all in favor of Mr.
Berthoud as vice mayor, say I.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Moving on to public comments.

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Anyone who requests to address the
commission,

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request you approach the lecturn,

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state your name and address,

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and comments shall initially be
limited to six minutes.

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Public comments is now open.

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Hello, I'm Amy Jensen.

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I'm the director of the Chamber of
Commerce here in Cheney.

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And I just wanted to take a second to
invite everybody to our, um,

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Chamber of Commerce annual meeting
dinner and awards banquet.

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It will be held Thursday, January
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at 6:00 PM, which is Kansas Day, so
our theme is going to be

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to celebrate all things Kansas.

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And it will be located at the FCK
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and it is, um, like I said, 6:00 PM,
and we will have a, uh, live auction,

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dinner, and also a silent auction
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and, um, should be lots of fun,

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and I have invitations for everybody
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will help you.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Are there any additional public
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Seeing none, public comments is now
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See manager report, Mr. Numan.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Uh, got a few things. First,
congratulations Jacob,

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Kevin for re-election and Tim.
Congratulations re-election.

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Forward working with you.

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So, just congratulations, guys.

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Um, so you got a few documents in
front of you.

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Um, first I want to start off with,
that I'm not going to go over,

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it's just reading material.

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Um, but this is gives a lot of depth
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the general fund, all that.

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If you were do it every year, I
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division plan, um, we've done,

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but just goes over the goals, um, and
objectives from 2025,

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uh, goals for 2026.

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Um, but just gives you a lot of
insight of the overall departments

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and what they do year in and year
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Um, a couple of things I do want to
go over in the book is page 15

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and page 16, um, real quick.

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That just gives you a little bit of
insight into the Mill Levys,

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the overall, uh, City Levy.

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Um, as you notice, the city had the
seven and a half mil levy

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that is a pass through to the
library,

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but then also goes with the other,
um, taxation profiles

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for the library, uh, county, schools,
college.

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There's just a lot of good
information in this book.

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Um, and on 16, you will see the top
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and the top five largest employers.

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Um, so just like to give a little bit
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businesses that they make up Cheney.

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On page 32,

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probably the one of the most hot
topics that we have year in

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and year out,

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community development.

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Um, I always like to go over this one
as well.

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Um, as you will see in the overview,

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there were 31 demolitions last year.

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11 of those were houses, nine
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Um, with that being said,

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We opened up the voluntary demo last
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Uh, we opened it up Thursday and had
it filled by Friday.

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So, we already had five voluntary
demos.

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So, we'll start that bid process,
we'll go through the process.

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Um, I expect by probably February,
we'll have that back

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in front of you again to open it back
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Last year we had around 12 to 13
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Um, so this I always like to give you
guys a heads up on that one.

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The commission in the past, every
time we built five, we opened it,

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um, and then once we started to get
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we shut it down accordingly to the
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Those all houses, majority of them.

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Yeah, some are garages, some are
mobile homes.

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The five that you had on? The five we
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are three homes and two garages.

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Um, and then I always like to touch
base that we see enough

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in the last couple years has been the
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As you've seen in this, we wrote 633
weed and nuisance

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letters last year,

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which is quite a bit for a department
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Just want to point those out that,
you know, we do eight

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resolutions every two weeks.

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Uh, this time you have five in front
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and a lot of that's because of the
voluntary demo has

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already, we already have five

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and so we're just going to keep an
eye on the budget

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as we move through it.

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So that's the gist of the strategic
plan.

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The one I also wanted to share with
you, especially with Mr.

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Harding coming on, was the sales tax.

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Uh, so you have a red book and a blue
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The 2000, the sales tax for 2019,
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that's actually got the projects that
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original sales tax.

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And then the blue book is the new
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have in the works.

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Um, unfortunately, that book is
sitting idle just because we did

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use those funds for the Hvac at the
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Um, so there's roughly about three
years left of that sales tax.

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That money as it comes in will be
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because the electric fund is helping
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because that money is coming in over
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that money instantly to pay for the
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So that fund.

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But it does have a lot, it shows all
the projects that we had

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in the works that we were going to
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missile building with that sales tax.

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Um, so we still have it on the radar,
we just going to have to

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wait a few years before we can
accomplish that project.

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But.

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I think Tim, you might have mentioned
that you were want a

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couple more copies,

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so that's why I went ahead and passed
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guys coming on.

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Um, it's just a lot of good reading
material for you guys.

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Um, other than that, that's all I
have now for questions.

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Questions out there for Mr. Newman?

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I don't know if you had on the
heating and air, but what's

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the status of the tax credits?

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Are are we still?

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So last I knew, we were in like phase
three, which is they were

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looking, they were looking through
all the material,

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um Gary's been handling a lot of
sharp, he had to take a ton

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of pictures, send them into the
state,

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and then they were reviewing the
pictures based on the work that

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was being performed.

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Um, but at this time I don't have
whether we had approval or not.

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Okay, thanks.

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So.

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And one thing I didn't mention in
that strategic plan on your.

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There's three handouts.

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I'm glad you brought that up for the
HVAc, but in your there's

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three handouts in there.

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Um, you got the CIP, which is the
first page.

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So 2026, you will see those projects
that are in the works

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as far as the fiber expansion, the
water plant and the filler

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project.

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And then the big one that we still
haven't heard from, um,

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is the wastewater plant,

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so we submitted that roughly 60 days
ago, they told us

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60 to 90 days,

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we, we hopefully have some word of
what our interest rate, we

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are still waiting on that.

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Um, approval of our interest rate
from the state.

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So not that we're going with the
state revolving loan, which

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is that's our ad,

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we're just trying to figure out what
our interest rates so we

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can do that's RF the USDA or a
private bond issuance,

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but we will submit that to the
governing body and then you guys

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will will pick the funding options
that we have for the

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wastewater plant.

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So that's the first page.

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Uh, the second one is just the
six-year benchmark, I always

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like to do a benchmark every year.

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So, I've been your city manager for
the last six years.

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Um, when I first came on, there was a
list of projects that the

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commission wanted to tackle

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and over the six years, I feel like
city staff has done a really

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good job of getting those projects
accomplished

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and without issuing a whole lot of
debt.

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So, hats off to city staff on that.

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And then the last one is just the
equipment replacement, uh,

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program,

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this one comes from vehicle services,
Jeff Kevasik.

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Um, it's one of the things we also
when I first came on is

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we really had no plan for equipment
replacement.

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Um, so we started this equipment
replacement program, we're on

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the final year,

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um, the ones that are in yellow are
the ones that are set to

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be replaced this year.

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Unfortunately, with the budget, the
general fund budget being

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set up how it was, we pretty much
pulled all projects,

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all equipment out of the overall
budget.

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Um, so these as these are needing to
be replaced, they

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will most likely come from equipment
reserve

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and we will do that to the
commission, I will just give an

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update of of that process as it
comes, but.

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Just want to give an update on those
three things.

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And then as we get into the budget
work session, obviously

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we'll update this and and give the
commission a little more info,

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especially on the equipment
replacement.

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So,

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Tim, about five years ago, we had to
issue some debt to replace

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some of the equipment that we had
because it was in such bad

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shape.

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We spend a lot of money, not a lot of
money, but we spent a lot

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of time and resources buying stuff
off of Purple Wave.

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Um, if you ever buy anything off
Purple Wave, it's pretty much.

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It's on its last straw. So we've had
to we've replaced about 4 or 5
pieces.

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and then we created this equipment
replacement plan.

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And as we go through the budget
cycles, our mechanic will put a new
list

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in front of the commission and that's
how we replace equipment.

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It's pretty much the 5 worst pieces
of equipment.

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that he puts in front of us is what
we're replaced.

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Um, and it strictly just depends on
what the mechanic shop.

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because that's how we feel like we
can save the most amount of money

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through that budgeting process.

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So, but just want to give a quick
update on that.

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And now we're up for questions for
me.

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How there Mr. Weaver. It's a little
work might come in.

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Larp point's coming home really nice.

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Uh, not the weather. We had a rough
summer

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because of all the rain and all that.

329
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Um, but I actually did a tour. I took
Tim around.

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Last Tuesday, we did a tour of it

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and was very pleased with how the
project's coming along.

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Um, January. So if you remember, we
had a mobilization of $5 million.

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to get rid of some of our bond money.

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Um, all of last year. Due to weather,

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we were still operating underneath
that $5 million mobilization fee.

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But in January this month, we will
actually make our first payment um
towards that water plant and get now
they're being caught up.

337
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It is set back about three to four
months. They're expecting spring of
2027 before that project is complete.

338
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Um, but they do have two of the
clarifiers have been built.

339
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Um, they're obviously on that north
or south track. Sorry, they're on the
south track.

340
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And the project's starting to really
come along. You actually see some
progress going on now. So.

341
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I gotta say I was thoroughly
impressed with.

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Good. Yeah, quite a project. Yeah.

343
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So I did take Tim, like I said, Ryan
took Tim on tour last Tuesday.

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We went through, I told him 2 hours.
I think we spent 3.5 hours.

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About 4 and a half, almost 4 hours.

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So we went through everything and
just took him pretty much around.

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Everything that we operated out of.
So, um.

348
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I was thoroughly impressed with you
and your staff.

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Everything looks great. I mean, good.

350
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Power plant, I was extremely
impressed with.

351
00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:54,038
Yeah. It's an impressive operation.

352
00:16:55,327 --> 00:16:57,259
Can you want to tell them too about
the solar project?

353
00:16:57,326 --> 00:16:59,147
It's, yeah, coming along.

354
00:16:59,214 --> 00:17:02,895
It is. Yeah, it's pretty much all the
panels are up. They're running wire
now.

355
00:17:02,962 --> 00:17:05,783
Um, as you saw in the PowerPoint. It
was last weekly bulletin.

356
00:17:05,850 --> 00:17:09,301
or weekly bulletin on the floor, but
had the PowerPoint in there on that.

357
00:17:09,368 --> 00:17:13,325
So it's come along very nice. June it
should be operational. So.

358
00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,973
How many megs that?

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Uh, 6 megawatts.

360
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35, something like that.

361
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That was about what the price point
was.

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And the advantage of it is, the
better advantage we entered into it

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several years ago is,

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uh we get the capacity off it and
capacity sales to other utilities

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which we've been making have way
increased in value because of the

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demand of all the data centers, etc.

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So, when we get that capacity, we'll
be able to resell that

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um to other utilities and a lot more
money than we thought we would do

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three years ago.

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Yeah, Ken came in and we did roughly
five.

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Yeah, from $2 to now $5 and they're
thinking maybe $8 to $10.

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That's how much it's gone up.

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00:18:10,668 --> 00:18:16,654
Yeah, so purchasing additional 6
megawatts on top of the solar farm,
there was good timing.

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00:18:22,361 --> 00:18:24,279
Additional questions are there for
Mr. Veman?

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Moving on to item 11.

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Conduct public hearing for
reinvestment housing incentive
district, RHID,

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Perch U Housing LLC.

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At our December 8th, 2025 regular
meeting, we set today as the date to
hold the required public hearing for
the RHID.

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And the purpose of the hearing is to
allow the public to speak about the
proposed budget and tax rate.

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At this time there's no financial or
legal consideration.

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And this time we'll conduct the
public hearing to allow formal action
under item 12A.

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I hereby declare the public hearing
open for comments for the record

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on establishing a reinvestment
housing incentive district

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within the city of and adopting a
plan for the development of housing

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and public facilities in such a
proposed district,

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Hidden Hills reinvestment housing
incentive district.

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All persons wishing to speak shall
approach the lectern and give their
name and address.

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Comments shall be limited to the
issues pertaining to the public
hearing.

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The public hearing is being recorded.
The public hearing is now open.

390
00:19:44,497 --> 00:19:46,226
Okay. Seeing no comments.

391
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I hereby declare the public hearing
closed.

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Moving on to new business, item 12A.

393
00:20:01,126 --> 00:20:02,468
reinvestment housing incentive

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district for housing LLC.

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00:20:04,354 --> 00:20:05,224
This comes from

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the city manager's office.

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the City Commission on

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December 8th, 2025

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approved the initial resolution

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for revised reinvestment housing

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and incentive district for housing
LLC.

402
00:20:15,797 --> 00:20:16,659
The new City Commission

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set a public hearing

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00:20:17,826 --> 00:20:19,355
for today.

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00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:21,656
analysis, the Kansas

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00:20:21,723 --> 00:20:22,855
Department of Commerce has

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00:20:22,922 --> 00:20:24,254
granted the initial approval

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for the reinvestment housing and
incentive district.

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00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,019
The next required

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00:20:28,086 --> 00:20:29,051
commission action to

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00:20:29,118 --> 00:20:31,217
establish the district is is past.

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00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:32,539
the new ordinance.

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00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:33,648
This time there's no final

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financial consideration.

415
00:20:35,114 --> 00:20:36,147
Legal consideration,

416
00:20:36,214 --> 00:20:37,346
proposed ordinance provide

417
00:20:37,413 --> 00:20:38,645
for commission review and

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00:20:38,712 --> 00:20:40,544
recommendations to adopt the
ordinance.

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00:20:40,611 --> 00:20:41,943
Mr. Newman.

420
00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:43,842
Yeah, it's Darren here too,

421
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:47,366
but it's obviously is over 18 years.

422
00:20:47,456 --> 00:20:50,185
was the initial tax abatement.

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00:20:50,275 --> 00:20:51,637
Um, but we're we're just excited

424
00:20:51,704 --> 00:20:53,136
that 32 doors this, you know,

425
00:20:53,203 --> 00:20:54,655
so I'm excited.

426
00:20:54,722 --> 00:20:56,134
Um, we had a pre-construction

427
00:20:56,201 --> 00:20:57,543
meeting last week.

428
00:20:57,610 --> 00:20:58,932
Um, they gave Darren till November

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to have the project complete.

430
00:21:00,698 --> 00:21:02,497
[laughter]

431
00:21:03,546 --> 00:21:04,428
So, no, we're just we're just excited

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00:21:04,495 --> 00:21:05,627
that hopefully have the project

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00:21:05,694 --> 00:21:07,067
finalized.

434
00:21:07,134 --> 00:21:09,142
That way Darren can start work, so.

435
00:21:10,571 --> 00:21:11,624
I was excited the first go around.

436
00:21:11,691 --> 00:21:13,340
I'm more excited this go around.

437
00:21:15,688 --> 00:21:17,717
How soon does construction start?

438
00:21:18,426 --> 00:21:19,758
Well,

439
00:21:20,685 --> 00:21:22,184
[laughter]

440
00:21:24,442 --> 00:21:25,814
waiting period until the

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finalization of the RHID

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00:21:27,181 --> 00:21:28,613
gets done, which this kicks off

443
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,177
30 days.

444
00:21:35,075 --> 00:21:36,807
school districts to oppose it.

445
00:21:36,874 --> 00:21:39,675
We've come in we've gotten

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00:21:39,742 --> 00:21:41,104
clarification from both of

447
00:21:41,171 --> 00:21:43,170
those entities that they're

448
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:45,828
not oppose at this time. So,

449
00:21:46,168 --> 00:21:48,986
I think put it on record and

450
00:21:49,136 --> 00:21:50,099
Yeah. We're excited

451
00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:52,597
I feel like it's it's

452
00:21:52,664 --> 00:21:54,496
going to happen this time. So,

453
00:21:54,563 --> 00:21:57,121
once that happens, we need to

454
00:21:58,061 --> 00:21:59,592
I think we can go ahead and

455
00:21:59,659 --> 00:22:01,158
do a a

456
00:22:01,658 --> 00:22:02,990
developmental agreement anytime

457
00:22:03,057 --> 00:22:04,926
between now and then.

458
00:22:05,126 --> 00:22:07,105
As soon as that's done,

459
00:22:07,654 --> 00:22:09,586
have pieces in place

460
00:22:09,653 --> 00:22:11,585
utilities, what we're

461
00:22:11,652 --> 00:22:14,150
going to do and

462
00:22:15,749 --> 00:22:17,648
Our goal is, you know,

463
00:22:18,038 --> 00:22:19,996
been treading water, so

464
00:22:20,286 --> 00:22:22,578
get contractors lined up to do

465
00:22:22,645 --> 00:22:25,393
the sewer water stuff.

466
00:22:25,992 --> 00:22:28,074
to get right now, hoping to start

467
00:22:28,141 --> 00:22:30,539
March-ish.

468
00:22:31,439 --> 00:22:32,788
All those things

469
00:22:33,438 --> 00:22:34,870
we're ready as soon as that

470
00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:36,568
that stuff is out of the way

471
00:22:36,635 --> 00:22:38,784
to get going, so.

472
00:22:40,633 --> 00:22:42,565
I hope to have some structures

473
00:22:42,632 --> 00:22:45,130
out there by June.

474
00:22:45,889 --> 00:22:47,142
Cool.

475
00:22:47,209 --> 00:22:49,540
A lot of local contractors to go
with.

476
00:22:49,607 --> 00:22:51,059
Yeah, we're talking to Kane,

477
00:22:51,126 --> 00:22:53,158
we're talking to Mission,

478
00:22:53,225 --> 00:22:56,323
we're talking to uh, Tony's.

479
00:22:56,622 --> 00:22:58,554
So, hoping to get credit bids

480
00:22:58,621 --> 00:23:01,020
from all three of those.

481
00:23:01,869 --> 00:23:03,201
All three of them

482
00:23:04,417 --> 00:23:06,709
are within 30 miles here.

483
00:23:06,776 --> 00:23:08,465
You're local, you're local, so.

484
00:23:09,614 --> 00:23:11,546
All those entities have people

485
00:23:11,613 --> 00:23:15,510
living in the community of, so.

486
00:23:16,909 --> 00:23:18,541
So excited to work with any

487
00:23:18,608 --> 00:23:20,907
one of those entities.

488
00:23:24,205 --> 00:23:26,103
I think it's going to be a great
project.

489
00:23:26,603 --> 00:23:28,102
excited to get started.

490
00:23:29,501 --> 00:23:31,533
Set here like in the starting

491
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,098
block, gen up, ready to go.

492
00:23:34,598 --> 00:23:36,097
Let's get in this.

493
00:23:37,196 --> 00:23:38,528
It's gonna be your one and done

494
00:23:38,595 --> 00:23:40,094
or you got to build more after.

495
00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:41,626
Well, yeah.

496
00:23:41,993 --> 00:23:44,524
hope to find other communities

497
00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:47,489
or more of this.

498
00:23:48,189 --> 00:23:50,987
to go front to figure it out.

499
00:23:53,086 --> 00:23:54,585
I'm excited about.

500
00:23:57,383 --> 00:23:58,815
appreciate everything that

501
00:23:58,882 --> 00:24:00,481
the city's done and

502
00:24:01,281 --> 00:24:03,679
gonna be found out.

503
00:24:03,879 --> 00:24:04,911
I did have one quick one,

504
00:24:04,978 --> 00:24:06,477
I don't want to put you on the spot.

505
00:24:06,877 --> 00:24:08,409
It's kind of kind of goes to this,

506
00:24:08,476 --> 00:24:09,508
kind of doesn't, but OMR

507
00:24:09,575 --> 00:24:10,807
obviously does.

508
00:24:10,874 --> 00:24:12,906
So Thursday they approved a plat

509
00:24:12,973 --> 00:24:14,505
for OMR and we discussed their

510
00:24:14,572 --> 00:24:16,604
RHID last time on this.

511
00:24:16,671 --> 00:24:18,203
Was that something that you would

512
00:24:18,270 --> 00:24:19,502
still consider building out there

513
00:24:19,569 --> 00:24:21,068
while this project is going on or

514
00:24:21,467 --> 00:24:22,500
The only reason I asked that is

515
00:24:22,567 --> 00:24:23,499
because probably at our next

516
00:24:23,566 --> 00:24:25,665
meeting they're going to have
approval with a new plat.

517
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:26,997
Um, and I was just curious

518
00:24:27,064 --> 00:24:28,296
kind of where you were at with

519
00:24:28,363 --> 00:24:29,695
that RHID as we discussed

520
00:24:29,762 --> 00:24:31,561
last time if you were

521
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,892
I think right now,

522
00:24:33,959 --> 00:24:35,291
That's all you can hear.

523
00:24:35,358 --> 00:24:36,857
you can handle it. So.

524
00:24:37,324 --> 00:24:38,157
Okay.

525
00:24:38,224 --> 00:24:39,489
the way I understood how that

526
00:24:39,556 --> 00:24:40,988
RHID was written, that we were

527
00:24:41,055 --> 00:24:43,053
going to have to kind of

528
00:24:43,553 --> 00:24:44,985
it's just an agreement that the

529
00:24:45,052 --> 00:24:46,484
city will put on RHID there,

530
00:24:46,551 --> 00:24:47,983
so you have to start it over

531
00:24:48,050 --> 00:24:49,949
from scratch.

532
00:24:50,049 --> 00:24:52,547
So once this project's done,

533
00:24:52,647 --> 00:24:53,480
I think we can kind of

534
00:24:53,547 --> 00:24:54,779
look at that and see what that

535
00:24:54,846 --> 00:24:56,645
looks like again.

536
00:24:57,044 --> 00:24:58,476
I got some initial bids on

537
00:24:58,543 --> 00:25:00,542
some some of the stuff.

538
00:25:01,212 --> 00:25:02,544
out there, but uh

539
00:27:01,164 --> 00:27:02,896
it's great.

540
00:27:02,963 --> 00:27:04,295
pleased with what that was going to
look for. I said,

541
00:27:07,836 --> 00:27:09,169
I think it can be done.

542
00:28:08,567 --> 00:28:12,055
I was just curious as we went because
we went because we have no more lots
out of St. Martin.

543
00:29:11,876 --> 00:29:16,573
So we sold Option B was our last
district. And you sold those lots to
just as we

544
00:30:01,757 --> 00:30:04,934
and um get some additional funding
for them.

545
00:30:06,154 --> 00:30:10,471
On the other page there is a
breakdown of

546
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:13,272
where riders are going,

547
00:30:13,339 --> 00:30:15,458
where riders are coming from,

548
00:30:15,727 --> 00:30:16,980
and um,

549
00:30:17,047 --> 00:30:20,467
there's a public transportation
utilization metrics,

550
00:30:20,534 --> 00:30:22,383
still amazing service.

551
00:30:22,583 --> 00:30:24,492
Uh, the big number is,

552
00:30:25,061 --> 00:30:26,733
um, number of riders.

553
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,728
We had 2100 in,

554
00:30:30,548 --> 00:30:32,719
uh, 23, 24.

555
00:30:32,786 --> 00:30:35,927
We dropped a little in 24, 25.

556
00:30:35,994 --> 00:30:38,456
and we were projected for about that
same amount

557
00:30:38,523 --> 00:30:40,474
for 25, 26.

558
00:30:40,541 --> 00:30:43,370
So our ridership decreased a little
bit,

559
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:46,520
uh, between 24 and 25,

560
00:30:46,587 --> 00:30:48,646
but it looks like we're holding
steady.

561
00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:52,793
Uh, if we can get through to June
30th.

562
00:30:55,931 --> 00:30:58,889
So I would invite you to ask any
questions and

563
00:31:01,358 --> 00:31:05,435
you guys can jump in if you've got
any questions for them.

564
00:31:06,055 --> 00:31:08,086
This is a service anybody within the

565
00:31:08,153 --> 00:31:09,346
community can take advantage of,
correct?

566
00:31:09,413 --> 00:31:11,384
It's not needs based or income based,
it's all-

567
00:31:11,451 --> 00:31:13,733
It's not, it's not needs based, it's
not income based.

568
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,632
It's general public transportation

569
00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:17,730
available to anybody who calls

570
00:31:17,797 --> 00:31:19,239
and schedules a ride.

571
00:31:19,306 --> 00:31:21,628
We schedule seven days in advance.

572
00:31:21,695 --> 00:31:24,036
We are wheelchair accessible.

573
00:31:24,103 --> 00:31:26,515
So, uh, we drive a bus in Chanute.

574
00:31:26,582 --> 00:31:29,423
It has a, uh, electronic lift that,
uh,

575
00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:35,019
we we wheelchair up, drop them in and
take them.

576
00:31:35,086 --> 00:31:38,157
We do a lot of, uh, backup for
Diversicare.

577
00:31:38,224 --> 00:31:40,415
If Diversicare has, they have a,

578
00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:43,014
they have a van or a bus or some
sort.

579
00:31:43,081 --> 00:31:45,512
And if they have to take a patient
out of town

580
00:31:45,579 --> 00:31:48,110
and a current patient needs to, uh,

581
00:31:48,177 --> 00:31:50,899
do dialysis or go to the hospital or
something.

582
00:31:50,966 --> 00:31:53,457
They they call us and and we them
well

583
00:31:53,524 --> 00:31:58,731
while their main van is is in service
somewhere else.

584
00:31:59,870 --> 00:32:02,301
And kind of looking at your frequent
stops here.

585
00:32:02,368 --> 00:32:05,999
I mean, these are necessary services
I think to individuals.

586
00:32:06,066 --> 00:32:08,897
I mean, eating groceries, getting
medical care.

587
00:32:08,964 --> 00:32:10,096
Those types of things.

588
00:32:10,163 --> 00:32:12,495
I mean, I think everyone is a social
creature.

589
00:32:12,562 --> 00:32:14,930
I mean, like I said, I mean,
residential as well too, so

590
00:32:14,997 --> 00:32:17,491
going to a friend or family member's
house,

591
00:32:17,558 --> 00:32:19,997
get that socialization, that that
human interaction.

592
00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:22,835
I think, I mean, it's a

593
00:32:22,902 --> 00:32:24,587
it's a service that

594
00:32:24,654 --> 00:32:27,179
I think it's underutilized, but

595
00:32:27,579 --> 00:32:29,091
It is, it is.

596
00:32:29,158 --> 00:32:33,481
And, uh, we're we've kind of been on
the fence

597
00:32:33,548 --> 00:32:35,580
because we didn't know whether the
service was going to continue

598
00:32:35,647 --> 00:32:38,278
or or disk. So we didn't want to we
didn't want to push it,

599
00:32:38,345 --> 00:32:41,276
we didn't want to advertise it, we
didn't want to advertise it, we
didn't want to get it out there if
we're going

600
00:32:41,343 --> 00:32:44,451
to have to to run out of money and
cut services.

601
00:32:44,518 --> 00:32:49,158
But yeah, for, uh, Diversicare, we're
we're we're used with them and Guest
Home States.

602
00:32:49,225 --> 00:32:53,895
Uh, out of town, we go out there a
lot and and bring those folks into
town.

603
00:32:53,962 --> 00:32:58,665
So that's uh, that's one of the only
ways they have, some of them have to
get around.

604
00:32:58,732 --> 00:32:59,664
So, yeah.

605
00:32:59,731 --> 00:33:02,876
So there's a guest told me there too,
which is fun.

606
00:33:04,445 --> 00:33:06,360
What time do you guys look for rides?

607
00:33:06,427 --> 00:33:08,458
What's up? Do you it's a five day?

608
00:33:08,525 --> 00:33:10,554
Yeah, 7:30 to 3:00.

609
00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:12,156
7:30 to 3:00. Uh, money through
pride.

610
00:33:12,223 --> 00:33:16,270
Yeah. And you can schedule like I
said, seven days in advance.

611
00:33:16,337 --> 00:33:18,769
You call our dispatcher and drawer.

612
00:33:18,836 --> 00:33:22,037
And we've got the you know, the
software, everything worked out.

613
00:33:22,104 --> 00:33:25,347
And we can tell you what times are
available and and how long it takes

614
00:33:25,414 --> 00:33:27,450
to get to where you're going. And

615
00:33:32,857 --> 00:33:33,789
And have you ever

616
00:33:33,856 --> 00:33:37,040
have you ever talked to like Walmart,

617
00:33:37,107 --> 00:33:41,734
Southeast Kansas Mental Health,
Ashley Clinic to make donations to
you?

618
00:33:41,801 --> 00:33:43,236
We haven't talked to Ashley Clinic.

619
00:33:43,303 --> 00:33:44,622
We have talked to Walmart.

620
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:46,867
How about Southeast Kansas Mental
Health?

621
00:33:46,957 --> 00:33:48,536
You guys talked to them?

622
00:33:51,954 --> 00:33:53,323
Oh, that's right. Yeah.

623
00:33:55,192 --> 00:33:57,191
We've talked to them, but

624
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:01,394
we didn't get a good indication that
they were

625
00:34:01,461 --> 00:34:04,409
willing to, uh, contribute to the
program.

626
00:34:04,476 --> 00:34:06,678
Really? Huh, interesting.

627
00:34:06,745 --> 00:34:08,383
That is interesting.

628
00:34:08,633 --> 00:34:09,596
It's real interesting.

629
00:34:09,663 --> 00:34:11,834
We didn't have detailed discussions,

630
00:34:11,901 --> 00:34:14,270
but it wasn't it wasn't a

631
00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:16,438
they didn't say what can we do to
help?

632
00:34:16,848 --> 00:34:21,175
We just said, what what do we, how do
we utilize your service?

633
00:34:22,634 --> 00:34:24,326
That's very interesting to me.

634
00:34:24,393 --> 00:34:26,951
Mhm. Thank you for that information.

635
00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:34,210
As far as Walmart goes,

636
00:34:34,277 --> 00:34:36,685
I think there's a kind of a corporate

637
00:34:36,755 --> 00:34:38,300
you know, it used to be kind of local

638
00:34:38,367 --> 00:34:39,999
one-on-one, you'd you'd get, you
know,

639
00:34:40,066 --> 00:34:41,585
get friendly with the manager and
that kind of stuff.

640
00:34:41,652 --> 00:34:44,296
It's a little more, you know,

641
00:34:44,363 --> 00:34:48,194
they send it to Arkansas and go
through the committee and that kind
of stuff to get

642
00:34:48,261 --> 00:34:50,716
the so a lot of local Walmart

643
00:34:52,595 --> 00:34:54,024
so references.

644
00:34:55,233 --> 00:34:58,587
The very first thing and this is kind
of working backwards here

645
00:34:58,654 --> 00:35:00,410
in my mind and I apologize.

646
00:35:00,823 --> 00:35:04,614
But I think the very first thing I
would encourage you to do

647
00:35:04,681 --> 00:35:07,492
is around May, Junish, we'll start
our our budget

648
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,838
cycle for 2027. And our,

649
00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:12,289
you guys are almost six months behind

650
00:35:12,356 --> 00:35:13,858
what our what our budget cycle would
be.

651
00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:16,556
I would encourage you to get with the
CA manager's office

652
00:35:16,623 --> 00:35:18,245
to try to get on there as an outside
agency,

653
00:35:18,312 --> 00:35:21,153
so during our budget cycle, we can
discuss that and have that put on
there.

654
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:23,772
We have him on our list for when he
does letters to outside agencies,

655
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:28,598
they will receive one. And that's
going on that point. That was my only
concern

656
00:35:28,665 --> 00:35:32,806
seeing this is that we're on
different calendar years for
budgeting purposes.

657
00:35:32,873 --> 00:35:35,431
Um, so I guess my only question is,

658
00:35:35,761 --> 00:35:39,458
if the commission was to fund this in
its entirety,

659
00:35:39,558 --> 00:35:41,730
the 46,646.

660
00:35:41,797 --> 00:35:45,367
You need 21,373 to get us to June
30th, 2026.

661
00:35:45,434 --> 00:35:49,255
You need another 25,273 to July 1st,
26

662
00:35:49,322 --> 00:35:51,733
to June 30th, 2027.

663
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,751
Unfortunately, both of those numbers
would fall in our 26 calendar year,

664
00:35:55,818 --> 00:35:57,207
I'm assuming.

665
00:35:57,597 --> 00:36:00,048
Or could we split those out and so we
can pay you one

666
00:36:00,115 --> 00:36:02,446
in 26 and one in 27?

667
00:36:02,513 --> 00:36:06,054
Because the issue we were going to
have is we won't be budgeting for

668
00:36:06,121 --> 00:36:08,093
2027 until May and June,

669
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,551
and it won't be finalized until
August.

670
00:36:10,618 --> 00:36:13,719
So the $46,000 hits a little bit
different than a...

671
00:36:13,786 --> 00:36:15,578
We can we can work with that

672
00:36:15,645 --> 00:36:19,825
because if we get, basically, in just
round numbers.

673
00:36:19,892 --> 00:36:25,132
If we get six months from the county
to operate June through December,

674
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:29,719
and we get six months from the city
to operate January through July.

675
00:36:29,786 --> 00:36:31,568
That that's not what we're doing
here.

676
00:36:31,635 --> 00:36:33,586
Yeah, I was thinking, I was looking
at two different ones,

677
00:36:33,653 --> 00:36:35,425
so maybe if the commission depended
on what they were thinking

678
00:36:35,492 --> 00:36:39,579
could issue the 21,373 for 26 in its
entirety.

679
00:36:39,779 --> 00:36:44,219
And then do the 25,273 in January of
2027.

680
00:36:44,286 --> 00:36:47,007
And then that would also let you have
those discussions for

681
00:36:47,074 --> 00:36:50,942
the budget session because we haven't
budget 2027 yet.

682
00:36:51,891 --> 00:36:54,220
But that is totally up to you guys.

683
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:57,780
But we have, we do have the money if
we wanted to fund it.

684
00:36:57,847 --> 00:37:02,328
Yeah, I mean, the 21,000 is I feel
comfortable with.

685
00:37:02,395 --> 00:37:04,996
Um, the 46,000, why I asked that
question, we did the whole

686
00:37:05,063 --> 00:37:08,064
46 this year. We'd probably be a
little tougher.

687
00:37:08,131 --> 00:37:12,781
But if we could split it and do the
21,000, do the 25,000 in 27,

688
00:37:12,848 --> 00:37:16,029
we'd be in two different calendar
years on the city's standpoint.

689
00:37:16,096 --> 00:37:20,543
As long as we had a financial pledge
going by, we can make something.

690
00:37:20,733 --> 00:37:22,944
We can do, we can do a six-month

691
00:37:23,011 --> 00:37:26,342
half from the county for six months,
half from the city basically.

692
00:37:26,409 --> 00:37:28,318
And yeah, I think that's for sure.

693
00:37:35,353 --> 00:37:37,582
And this is not any money from the
county.

694
00:37:38,261 --> 00:37:40,383
Oops. Say that again?

695
00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:41,582
Is this what no money from the
county?

696
00:37:41,649 --> 00:37:45,520
No, that's what their 14,000 for 26.

697
00:37:45,587 --> 00:37:47,875
14,000 for 27.

698
00:37:48,085 --> 00:37:50,017
Yeah, it looks like they have
budgeted,

699
00:37:50,084 --> 00:37:52,655
I I don't, I can't answer that. Maybe
you can.

700
00:37:52,722 --> 00:37:55,673
What's that? He was asked to, yeah,
this, your second sheet,

701
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,521
you got 14,727 for 26.

702
00:37:58,588 --> 00:38:00,887
We're in the budget for 2000.

703
00:38:01,406 --> 00:38:03,428
Is that pledge for 27 accurate as
well?

704
00:38:03,495 --> 00:38:05,633
Well, yes. Okay, that's okay, I see
how that.

705
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:12,489
So the 11 routes

706
00:38:14,328 --> 00:38:18,105
because it's those 11 routes in
Southeast Kansas. Right.

707
00:38:21,103 --> 00:38:23,655
I guess this is a simple way of
dividing out and figuring

708
00:38:23,722 --> 00:38:26,743
out the local contribution because
I'm sure there's other

709
00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:31,899
routes that have more participation
than what ours does because

710
00:38:31,966 --> 00:38:37,256
you guys will may operate than what
your show county does.

711
00:38:37,323 --> 00:38:39,464
Well, that that's not really how we
we figure it.

712
00:38:39,531 --> 00:38:42,443
I mean, we had we we have the the
40,000 amount for each

713
00:38:42,510 --> 00:38:46,340
route that we ran and, um,

714
00:38:46,407 --> 00:38:50,777
I think it's basically

715
00:38:50,844 --> 00:38:52,703
So like Crawford County is a route.

716
00:38:53,073 --> 00:38:56,593
Well, Crawford County had four
routes. Actually, they have five.

717
00:38:56,660 --> 00:39:00,111
But they had, yeah, they we had two
pack buses in the city of Pittsburgh.

718
00:39:00,178 --> 00:39:03,669
We had, uh, two vans in the city of
Pittsburgh.

719
00:39:03,736 --> 00:39:06,597
And we had one in Crawford County.

720
00:39:06,664 --> 00:39:11,434
So 160,000 is what their contribution
is or supposed to be.

721
00:39:11,501 --> 00:39:14,222
If a countywide entity, it was 200.

722
00:39:14,289 --> 00:39:16,021
200. Yeah.

723
00:39:16,088 --> 00:39:18,546
What have they done? Just curious.

724
00:39:18,756 --> 00:39:22,007
We're still in negotiations with them
on bits and pieces.

725
00:39:22,074 --> 00:39:24,695
We're looking at adjustments to the
service

726
00:39:24,762 --> 00:39:27,813
because we can do the three-day, we
can do a four-day.

727
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,722
So we're tailoring it to what the
community needs

728
00:39:29,789 --> 00:39:32,877
and what people love with partnering
with us.

729
00:39:34,596 --> 00:39:38,896
So is this what you're encountering
across all of your routes,

730
00:39:38,963 --> 00:39:43,550
or are people hesitant to help fund?

731
00:39:45,888 --> 00:39:49,909
The the, uh, those those Crawford
County has been with us for,

732
00:39:49,976 --> 00:39:53,367
uh, a long time. And, uh,

733
00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:57,084
the match took a significant jump
after COVID.

734
00:39:57,151 --> 00:40:00,339
It went from

735
00:40:00,628 --> 00:40:04,236
from uh what 24,000 to 40,000.

736
00:40:04,725 --> 00:40:06,974
And that's kind of that made a
difference in what

737
00:40:08,243 --> 00:40:12,030
you know, the the the funding
remained flat.

738
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,337
In other words, the funding didn't
didn't didn't increase with our cost
increase.

739
00:40:17,537 --> 00:40:20,395
Therefore we we we fell short.

740
00:40:21,314 --> 00:40:25,212
That gives me a better understanding
of the routes on their set up and

741
00:40:25,532 --> 00:40:31,458
Yeah, initially I thought, well,
you're servicing the 12 counties of
Southeast Kansas.

742
00:40:31,838 --> 00:40:34,609
You got 11 routes, so one of the
counties is not getting service.

743
00:40:34,676 --> 00:40:38,383
Yeah, the division was going, but
this helps explain it good.

744
00:40:38,713 --> 00:40:43,013
The city of Pittsburg is always has
always had uh the pack bus.

745
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,440
It's a city bus that basically once
runs from one end of Pittsburg to the
other,

746
00:40:47,507 --> 00:40:50,476
takes about a little over an hour to
make the loop.

747
00:40:50,735 --> 00:40:55,752
And they are they're very happy with
that service. They're more than
willing to fund that service.

748
00:40:56,152 --> 00:41:01,901
But some of the on-demand routes um
have have kind of uh taken a hit

749
00:41:01,968 --> 00:41:07,814
because we can't raise $40,000 for
each service.

750
00:41:07,884 --> 00:41:12,161
So they've kind of cut the service
that they want to utilize the most.

751
00:41:12,351 --> 00:41:17,211
And historically our counties were
our biggest supporters with Ccap

752
00:41:17,278 --> 00:41:20,209
providing, and if it continued to
elevate, Ccap is able to cover

753
00:41:20,276 --> 00:41:23,514
the changes that something we can't
do anymore.

754
00:41:24,224 --> 00:41:27,255
And our timeline and timetables not
line up well

755
00:41:27,322 --> 00:41:30,470
with a single county or city we
talked to.

756
00:41:31,149 --> 00:41:33,737
Because we're always six months off
one direction and the other.

757
00:41:34,237 --> 00:41:36,828
So we re-some of the new ones um to
the cities

758
00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:41,672
and the counties we haven't talked to
about supporting

759
00:41:42,202 --> 00:41:45,133
this project, and now we're trying to
get everybody

760
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,448
during the time everybody's working
on budgets.

761
00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:51,736
pushing up and.

762
00:41:52,495 --> 00:41:56,153
You mentioned during COVID, your
expenses almost doubled.

763
00:41:56,723 --> 00:41:59,811
Have you seen since COVID, have you
seen the great opportunities?

764
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,311
Were there better funding options
during COVID versus now,

765
00:42:03,378 --> 00:42:06,706
or is there more funding options
outside of city and counties now?

766
00:42:07,446 --> 00:42:08,978
I guess is there more free money?

767
00:42:09,045 --> 00:42:11,343
Is there more grants opportunities?

768
00:42:11,703 --> 00:42:13,432
Now or during COVID? Has it changed
at all?

769
00:42:14,111 --> 00:42:16,849
Yeah, not not for not for
transportation.

770
00:42:16,929 --> 00:42:19,098
Less. Less funding opportunities.

771
00:42:19,358 --> 00:42:20,690
Okay.

772
00:42:23,375 --> 00:42:25,494
Do you have a lobbyist in Topeka?

773
00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:30,194
We have a Kansas Public
Transportation Association,

774
00:42:30,261 --> 00:42:33,612
which I'm a board member, and we are
going to be in Topeka

775
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:38,246
on February 18th for okay at the Dan
County.

776
00:42:39,585 --> 00:42:45,784
But we yes, we do have um a lobbyist

777
00:42:45,851 --> 00:42:49,821
is is what he goes by, but yeah, he's
he's he's the president of his
organization

778
00:42:49,888 --> 00:42:52,326
and definitely is is welcome to this.

779
00:42:52,456 --> 00:42:55,404
So this is predominantly District 2
then, which you guys operate in.

780
00:42:56,244 --> 00:43:00,181
Correct. Majority of it would be in
that area, yes.

781
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,927
It'd be nice to see some more state
funding in this way.

782
00:43:08,136 --> 00:43:09,368
Yeah.

783
00:43:09,435 --> 00:43:14,212
Well, their calculation from this cuz
this is federal after all.

784
00:43:14,322 --> 00:43:17,340
So they're very specific about
calculations of this.

785
00:43:19,469 --> 00:43:23,489
And there's a on the community cost
investment page,

786
00:43:23,556 --> 00:43:27,317
there is a breakdown of our total
program budget,

787
00:43:27,384 --> 00:43:30,225
what is federal and what is state.

788
00:43:30,292 --> 00:43:34,272
And uh, $35,000 is program revenue.

789
00:43:34,339 --> 00:43:37,357
That's that basically comes from
donations from riders.

790
00:43:37,477 --> 00:43:39,336
We don't charge for our services.

791
00:43:39,716 --> 00:43:43,993
Some other uh transportation
providers do charge for their
services.

792
00:43:44,063 --> 00:43:47,334
Most of the people that uh we try and
serve

793
00:43:47,401 --> 00:43:49,172
uh may not have a dollar to give.

794
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,607
You know, we'd rather they spend
their money on resources to help
them.

795
00:43:54,206 --> 00:43:57,107
And um so any donations we get

796
00:43:57,174 --> 00:43:59,503
goes right back to the program

797
00:43:59,583 --> 00:44:03,300
uh to the state, we we basically need
it on the back end.

798
00:44:17,171 --> 00:44:19,250
Is this column the

799
00:44:20,459 --> 00:44:22,188
What do you call it?

800
00:44:23,407 --> 00:44:26,076
The writer stops, are those ranked?

801
00:44:26,325 --> 00:44:27,418
Yes, this is ranked by.

802
00:44:27,485 --> 00:44:29,127
by number of stops on them.

803
00:44:29,194 --> 00:44:34,443
Yeah, Walmart's pretty much every
every every uh city and county that
we serve.

804
00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:37,231
I think Walmart's top of every list.

805
00:44:37,298 --> 00:44:40,379
And are there members listed here
that do not,

806
00:44:40,446 --> 00:44:42,795
I'm going to make sure I understand
what you said.

807
00:44:42,975 --> 00:44:45,293
that do not contribute to the
program?

808
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,572
So on your rider stops,

809
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:52,190
those are all of the most frequent
stops for your rider.

810
00:44:52,257 --> 00:44:54,048
I understand that. No one on that
list

811
00:44:54,115 --> 00:44:57,906
outside of the city and the county
have supported financially

812
00:44:57,973 --> 00:44:59,962
the transportation.

813
00:45:01,563 --> 00:45:04,161
What does that indicate?

814
00:45:06,759 --> 00:45:08,091
Okay.

815
00:45:08,325 --> 00:45:09,158
All right.

816
00:45:09,225 --> 00:45:10,185
If if

817
00:45:10,252 --> 00:45:11,085
[clears throat]

818
00:45:11,756 --> 00:45:13,088
Well,

819
00:45:17,652 --> 00:45:19,451
If they get it for free,

820
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:22,449
Yeah.

821
00:45:22,749 --> 00:45:24,248
Yes. Yeah.

822
00:45:24,648 --> 00:45:27,046
and I'm not likely to intervene to to

823
00:45:28,312 --> 00:45:29,145
get any money.

824
00:45:29,212 --> 00:45:30,177
Some of the other

825
00:45:30,244 --> 00:45:33,042
documented information on some of the

826
00:45:34,341 --> 00:45:36,740
writers stops and disturbing.

827
00:45:39,338 --> 00:45:40,670
So.

828
00:45:41,437 --> 00:45:42,569
Not what you guys are doing.

829
00:45:42,636 --> 00:45:44,235
I think we ought to do it.

830
00:45:45,634 --> 00:45:46,966
figure out a way to help you.

831
00:45:47,033 --> 00:45:48,832
You need a motion then?

832
00:45:49,231 --> 00:45:50,064
Yeah.

833
00:45:50,131 --> 00:45:52,163
I have a few more questions, I truly
apologize.

834
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:54,461
Well, you have those after we make
the motion.

835
00:45:54,528 --> 00:45:56,627
You can't make a motion. Yeah.

836
00:45:58,426 --> 00:46:00,125
I move that we do it.

837
00:46:01,823 --> 00:46:02,656
Make a motion that is.

838
00:46:02,723 --> 00:46:03,655
To.

839
00:46:03,722 --> 00:46:04,555
do 21,000.

840
00:46:04,622 --> 00:46:06,353
21,000 this year and

841
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:10,851
and then plan for it in the budget
next year for whatever it is.

842
00:46:10,918 --> 00:46:13,449
And they're saying we we're good for
the 21370.

843
00:46:13,516 --> 00:46:16,347
Yeah, I'm I'm good with both of them
just as long as we can separate it.

844
00:46:16,414 --> 00:46:18,446
I think that's the biggest thing that
I want to do.

845
00:46:18,513 --> 00:46:22,743
is if we can issue the one check for
21,373 for 26

846
00:46:22,810 --> 00:46:26,840
and then we could issue the 25,273 in
27.

847
00:46:26,907 --> 00:46:28,239
And then yeah.

848
00:46:28,306 --> 00:46:31,837
When we do the outside agencies,
we'll have you come and give an
update.

849
00:46:31,904 --> 00:46:36,201
But we'll just already have that
25,000 into that actual budget for
outside agencies.

850
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:44,029
Now would there be a possibility that
that that 25,000 would be less if you
guys came up with

851
00:46:44,096 --> 00:46:47,827
you know, that we have someone else
step up or the county makes you all
set.

852
00:46:47,894 --> 00:46:50,292
The county makes make some. Makes a
payment.

853
00:46:51,591 --> 00:46:53,523
that that'll be a promise to you.

854
00:46:53,590 --> 00:46:55,389
That's one of the things we've been
on

855
00:46:55,988 --> 00:46:58,020
trying to get one at the same time.

856
00:46:58,087 --> 00:47:02,784
and it's really difficult to get to
20 places in a short period of time
to everything.

857
00:47:03,084 --> 00:47:06,414
We we are feeling the same when you
are, it's a service to the community.

858
00:47:06,481 --> 00:47:09,912
We're bringing passengers to your
business.

859
00:47:09,979 --> 00:47:10,812
Um, we can track all that.

860
00:47:10,879 --> 00:47:11,811
You should

861
00:47:11,878 --> 00:47:12,711
least

862
00:47:12,778 --> 00:47:14,110
Customers get to know.

863
00:47:14,177 --> 00:47:18,508
and I think it's important that we
have the full bodies such as
yourselves.

864
00:47:18,575 --> 00:47:23,771
we should be able to tell you, yes,
you've got some of your businesses in
town.

865
00:47:23,871 --> 00:47:27,502
that it's not fair if they don't at
least the minimum considerate.

866
00:47:27,569 --> 00:47:29,700
So, um, and we feel it needs to be
done.

867
00:47:29,767 --> 00:47:30,800
before we

868
00:47:30,867 --> 00:47:32,598
and that's what Scott was saying
earlier.

869
00:47:32,665 --> 00:47:36,296
Um, I was here, you know, a little
over 20 years ago

870
00:47:36,363 --> 00:47:40,293
and I remember we just wrote on the
premise that it was just a service to
the community

871
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,091
and we didn't go after businesses to
support that effort,

872
00:47:44,158 --> 00:47:46,257
but it means more than it did before
back that.

873
00:47:46,357 --> 00:47:49,388
Now it it's just a matter of survival
to the local communities

874
00:47:49,455 --> 00:47:54,152
to have that done as well as it helps
to have that done as well as it helps
to take off the pressure off the
local governments.

875
00:47:54,651 --> 00:47:56,883
So that's that's our premise for you.

876
00:47:56,950 --> 00:48:02,079
So we will spend time over the next
year going to these places and at
least having conversations with them.

877
00:48:02,146 --> 00:48:04,378
Of course we can't force them to do
anything.

878
00:48:04,445 --> 00:48:07,643
But it's worth the effort. It
definitely is worth the effort.

879
00:48:09,142 --> 00:48:12,972
So, do you guys get money from
Medicare, Medicaid?

880
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:13,972
No.

881
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:19,268
We have, we are in the process though
of going after medical, after medical
reimbursement.

882
00:48:19,335 --> 00:48:22,666
So, um, as a matter of fact, that's
been quite a process to go through.

883
00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:24,365
But uh, yeah, I'm not.

884
00:48:24,432 --> 00:48:25,664
And frankly.

885
00:48:25,731 --> 00:48:26,863
frankly, no.

886
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:29,961
We are actively investigating that
now.

887
00:48:30,028 --> 00:48:32,659
we're just in the middle of the op
petition now.

888
00:48:32,726 --> 00:48:33,559
And it's uh

889
00:48:33,626 --> 00:48:35,790
I just wondered, I really wondered is

890
00:48:35,857 --> 00:48:42,853
if those Medicare and Medicaid
supplement some of the people that
enjoy your benefits.

891
00:48:43,069 --> 00:48:43,902
Yes.

892
00:48:43,969 --> 00:48:44,802
Yeah.

893
00:48:44,869 --> 00:48:45,935
There.

894
00:48:46,002 --> 00:48:52,231
And if if if they actually have been
receiving funds for transportation, I
mean, I don't know.

895
00:48:52,298 --> 00:48:54,429
So I just wondered how it worked.

896
00:48:54,496 --> 00:48:59,193
Well, one of our partners in this
community health center out in out of
Pittsburgh.

897
00:48:59,393 --> 00:49:06,389
And they do all that and they 30% of
their funding for their entire
operation comes from insurance and
and from medical reimbursement.

898
00:49:06,788 --> 00:49:13,784
And we know that talking with them in
weeks, matter of fact, we just met
with them again talking about general
public transportation, that's one of
the the things that makes a big
difference, it would definitely take
the pressure off all of our providers
and all of our local governments.

899
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,778
So, so what you're saying, CHC then
funds that?

900
00:49:22,978 --> 00:49:26,309
CHC CHC gives you reversion for it?

901
00:49:26,376 --> 00:49:27,908
No, they do not give us money.

902
00:49:27,975 --> 00:49:28,808
So there are they.

903
00:49:28,875 --> 00:49:30,507
They're they're like Southeast Kansas
mental health.

904
00:49:30,574 --> 00:49:34,005
They there are multiple providers
that do transportation.

905
00:49:34,072 --> 00:49:35,304
Okay.

906
00:49:35,371 --> 00:49:37,003
But we are primarily do medical.

907
00:49:37,070 --> 00:49:38,002
Okay, yeah, I understand that.

908
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:39,468
Okay.

909
00:49:39,768 --> 00:49:46,763
And there is, there is a difference
between non-reimbursable medical
transportation and general public
transportation.

910
00:49:50,461 --> 00:49:57,090
General public transportation is
basically any ride for any reason to
any destination.

911
00:49:57,157 --> 00:50:00,255
Medical transportation is if you're
covered.

912
00:50:00,474 --> 00:50:02,365
for for insurance or

913
00:50:02,432 --> 00:50:03,305
medicare Medicaid

914
00:50:03,372 --> 00:50:05,673
then we that the that it gives you
the right

915
00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:08,691
we get reimbursed for that.

916
00:50:08,758 --> 00:50:12,739
We've we've never gone down that
road.

917
00:50:12,806 --> 00:50:17,725
like like they said, we're in the
process of filling out the
application now

918
00:50:17,792 --> 00:50:23,442
and um because it's it's you know,
something we're going to need to
survive really.

919
00:50:23,708 --> 00:50:28,908
but that also squeezes out less spots
for

920
00:50:29,445 --> 00:50:35,591
the common man who just trying to go
to go to Walmart. He's not he's not
sick, he just doesn't have a car.

921
00:50:38,121 --> 00:50:40,303
Motion still stands? I'll second it.

922
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,519
And then just for clarification on
the motion, was that just for this
year for that that 21,000?

923
00:50:45,666 --> 00:50:51,196
Yep, it's for this year and to look
at the budget process to make sure
they're here and look at it to talk
about it in the budgeting

924
00:50:51,263 --> 00:50:54,603
to go next year.

925
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:56,012
Perfect. Okay.

926
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,441
Is that? Yeah. Yep. Yep.

927
00:50:58,508 --> 00:51:00,350
Thank you. Then second thing.

928
00:51:01,226 --> 00:51:03,258
And then a couple of additional
questions on my side as well too.

929
00:51:03,325 --> 00:51:08,864
So I think that 5,000 donation or not
donation or not donation but the
purchase of the advertising that was
the first contribution that the issue

930
00:51:08,931 --> 00:51:11,662
has done to the program. Correct.

931
00:51:11,729 --> 00:51:13,641
Correct. Yeah, we appreciate that
very much.

932
00:51:13,708 --> 00:51:16,369
Okay. I guess we haven't done this in
the past.

933
00:51:17,036 --> 00:51:22,086
Well, between between the county
support and the the uh pledge

934
00:51:22,153 --> 00:51:27,412
being where it was C-CAP was able to
cover the difference.

935
00:51:27,619 --> 00:51:31,929
When that when that 40% 30% match
went to $40,000

936
00:51:31,996 --> 00:51:35,587
and the county remained flat.

937
00:51:35,654 --> 00:51:38,915
That's when the the gap became
unsustainable for C-CAP to

938
00:51:38,982 --> 00:51:43,729
look that to level different rounds.

939
00:51:45,607 --> 00:51:47,569
Additional questions, comments,
concerns are there?

940
00:51:47,636 --> 00:51:50,807
I guess one more question I'll make
the motion, but uh

941
00:51:51,254 --> 00:51:53,935
So does your routing include like
fair and

942
00:51:54,002 --> 00:51:57,722
Absolutely, yeah. have you talked
about ship by town locations?

943
00:51:57,789 --> 00:51:59,122
I have not met with Fair.

944
00:51:59,408 --> 00:52:02,409
we've been to Erie. We have talked to
Erie.

945
00:52:02,476 --> 00:52:04,038
Okay. Okay. That's all.

946
00:52:04,105 --> 00:52:06,187
I just wanted to make sure you're
talking to it.

947
00:52:08,153 --> 00:52:10,094
What additional questions, comments,
concerns are there?

948
00:52:11,121 --> 00:52:12,373
Motion still stands?

949
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,352
I can still stand.

950
00:52:15,068 --> 00:52:16,220
All those in favor, say aye.

951
00:52:16,287 --> 00:52:17,809
Aye. Aye. Aye.

952
00:52:18,206 --> 00:52:20,458
Any opposed? Thank you all.

953
00:52:20,605 --> 00:52:21,937
Thank you very much, we appreciate.

954
00:52:22,004 --> 00:52:25,604
Yeah. Good luck. You got it. Good
luck, guys. Good luck.

955
00:52:26,111 --> 00:52:27,573
Thank you. Thank you.

956
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,822
information. Appreciate it.

957
00:52:33,104 --> 00:52:36,975
Check it real quick. One question
though, will you submit me an
invoice?

958
00:52:37,152 --> 00:52:39,353
I like it. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

959
00:52:45,276 --> 00:52:50,945
Moving on to item 12C, appoint
commissioners to interface with
specified city boards.

960
00:52:51,012 --> 00:52:58,007
Commissioners may wish to discuss
assigning and or reassigning
commissioners to interface with the
following city the following local
city boards.

961
00:53:01,155 --> 00:53:04,146
I can read all those if you want me
to. We can leave them

962
00:53:10,429 --> 00:53:16,478
It looks like for sure we'll have to
reassign the planning commission, the
parks advisory board,

963
00:53:20,023 --> 00:53:24,383
The land bank didn't exist. Or it was
dissolved.

964
00:53:26,169 --> 00:53:27,501
the CRDA.

965
00:53:30,376 --> 00:53:33,217
I think they're working on something.

966
00:53:33,554 --> 00:53:36,245
It's those big hills and climb. Okay.

967
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:43,911
I'm happy with what I'm on. I like
tourism.

968
00:53:48,288 --> 00:53:53,277
I've been serving on the Main Street
board anyway, so I can stay there.

969
00:53:57,369 --> 00:53:59,332
to take Tim Tim records please.

970
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:05,760
CRDA I can do I can take Tim records
place on all of them.

971
00:54:07,007 --> 00:54:10,207
unless somebody else wants to jump in
there.

972
00:54:11,044 --> 00:54:12,376
Works for me.

973
00:54:16,001 --> 00:54:19,471
Do we have any other boards they wish
to vacate or trade?

974
00:54:23,546 --> 00:54:26,667
I'm assuming these boards will reach
out to me or do I need to

975
00:54:27,823 --> 00:54:29,313
I'll make sure they reach out to you.

976
00:54:30,191 --> 00:54:37,187
So, I'll find out when they meet, um
exactly cuz some of them change based
on quorum. I'll find out.

977
00:54:37,537 --> 00:54:42,556
Okay. Yeah, and I believe Land Bank
at the time is dissolved as far as
meeting wise.

978
00:54:42,623 --> 00:54:46,464
Um and then as Tim said CRDA, I
believe is still, I know they're

979
00:54:46,531 --> 00:54:51,571
actively hiring, trying to hire a
director, so I think they are trying
to still meet.

980
00:54:52,027 --> 00:54:56,058
Um but Parks advisory and planning
Commission, we can get you those
dates for sure.

981
00:54:56,354 --> 00:54:57,727
Thank you. Yep.

982
00:54:58,933 --> 00:55:00,265
You're good.

983
00:55:00,460 --> 00:55:01,792
one is needed. Yeah.

984
00:55:02,858 --> 00:55:04,890
get your hands on the one that I
like.

985
00:55:05,856 --> 00:55:08,687
David, I thought the land that land
bank's done.

986
00:55:08,754 --> 00:55:10,486
It's all right. It's all. Okay.

987
00:55:10,553 --> 00:55:11,386
[laughter]

988
00:55:12,452 --> 00:55:13,384
And parts advisor, they do.

989
00:55:13,451 --> 00:55:14,950
It has assets.

990
00:55:15,350 --> 00:55:16,782
Yeah. So they

991
00:55:16,849 --> 00:55:17,782
they do sell off.

992
00:55:17,849 --> 00:55:19,747
Okay. Okay.

993
00:55:19,847 --> 00:55:21,979
Park says me like March through
October.

994
00:55:22,046 --> 00:55:27,342
They meet during spring and summer
and then they kind of take a hiatus

995
00:55:35,137 --> 00:55:37,736
I think everyone's good with that.
We'll take a motion.

996
00:55:41,333 --> 00:55:42,266
I make a move.

997
00:55:42,333 --> 00:55:44,764
A motion that we approve the
committee's.

998
00:55:44,831 --> 00:55:46,163
Sure. There a second?

999
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:47,462
Second.

1000
00:55:47,529 --> 00:55:48,961
All those in favor say I.

1001
00:55:49,028 --> 00:55:50,260
I.

1002
00:55:50,327 --> 00:55:51,926
Any opposed?

1003
00:55:55,424 --> 00:55:59,222
Does anyone here to discuss 1315
South Plumber?

1004
00:56:00,821 --> 00:56:03,319
or 722 South Grant?

1005
00:56:04,618 --> 00:56:06,917
or 1611 South Highland?

1006
00:56:08,815 --> 00:56:11,214
or 706 North Highland?

1007
00:56:12,513 --> 00:56:14,911
For 1005 South Plumber.

1008
00:56:16,011 --> 00:56:19,908
I think before we discuss talk about
those, I think Mr. Newman has one
update.

1009
00:56:19,975 --> 00:56:21,407
I just had one update just so you're
aware.

1010
00:56:21,474 --> 00:56:24,905
But the 12 E 722 South Grant.

1011
00:56:24,972 --> 00:56:30,102
That was the one, I believe her name
was the one, I believe her name was
Rose came, she was renting the
property.

1012
00:56:30,169 --> 00:56:34,599
She wasn't living in it, but she was
trying to rent it, she dumped her own
money into it, trying to fix up the
property.

1013
00:56:34,666 --> 00:56:39,695
Um, the homeowner told them that they
couldn't sell it to her. They ended
up selling it to a family member
instead.

1014
00:56:39,895 --> 00:56:42,294
Um, and this is now back in front of
the commission again.

1015
00:56:42,361 --> 00:56:48,023
So I just wanted to remind you that
request that we went through a few
months ago.

1016
00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:53,287
And I kind of felt sorry for the the
lady because she was dumping money
into it. They wouldn't sell it to
her.

1017
00:56:53,354 --> 00:56:58,483
And then they did end up selling it
after she had invested.

1018
00:56:59,483 --> 00:57:01,781
on her words of $2,000 into the
brother.

1019
00:57:01,848 --> 00:57:03,680
So, it's unfortunate.

1020
00:57:07,278 --> 00:57:09,376
Is everyone okay reading these all
together?

1021
00:57:11,575 --> 00:57:13,973
Have a resolution declaring property
at

1022
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,172
1315 South Plumber in violation of

1023
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:20,269
Sheetless code 8.20.010 L E G

1024
00:57:20,336 --> 00:57:23,267
10.30.030.

1025
00:57:24,167 --> 00:57:26,165
resolution declaring property at

1026
00:57:26,232 --> 00:57:28,664
722 South Grant in violation of code

1027
00:57:28,731 --> 00:57:31,762
8.20.010 L.

1028
00:57:32,161 --> 00:57:34,260
The resolution declaring property at

1029
00:57:34,327 --> 00:57:36,359
1611 South Highland in violation of

1030
00:57:36,426 --> 00:57:39,756
code 8.20.010 L G

1031
00:57:39,823 --> 00:57:43,254
and 10.30.030.

1032
00:57:43,954 --> 00:57:45,952
resolution declaring property at

1033
00:57:46,019 --> 00:57:48,151
706 North Highland in violation of

1034
00:57:48,218 --> 00:57:52,681
code 8.20.010 L and G.

1035
00:57:52,748 --> 00:57:54,947
And the resolution declaring property
at

1036
00:57:55,014 --> 00:57:57,345
1005 South Plumber in violation of

1037
00:57:57,412 --> 00:58:01,742
code 8.20.010 and G.

1038
00:58:01,942 --> 00:58:04,241
We have any discussion on any of
those items?

1039
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,736
Do we get any more uh communication
on the first one?

1040
00:58:11,136 --> 00:58:14,234
On the first one, sorry. Uh, we did
not, just the emails.

1041
00:58:14,301 --> 00:58:19,031
So we've had quite a few emails going
back and forth with the property
owner.

1042
00:58:19,098 --> 00:58:23,228
Unfortunately nothing has come to
date of them actually cleaning the
property up.

1043
00:58:23,295 --> 00:58:28,525
Unfortunately, this one has been
pretty regular over the last few
years,

1044
00:58:28,592 --> 00:58:30,623
but it's went to the commission

1045
00:58:30,690 --> 00:58:33,754
a few different times, and
unfortunately it hasn't been cleaned
up today.

1046
00:58:33,821 --> 00:58:35,753
This is the one by uh, kind of by me.

1047
00:58:35,820 --> 00:58:41,549
Yeah, it's on it's right next to the
apartment complex. South Plumber.

1048
00:58:41,616 --> 00:58:43,148
They do have a city dumpster out
there.

1049
00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:45,647
It was full of stuff as I drove by
today.

1050
00:58:45,714 --> 00:58:47,046
Yeah.

1051
00:58:47,113 --> 00:58:49,644
Uh, you're I don't I think we're
talking about a different one.

1052
00:58:49,711 --> 00:58:50,943
Oh, okay.

1053
00:58:51,010 --> 00:58:55,307
It's there's only two properties to
the south. There's one on the corner,
but it's the one in between.

1054
00:58:55,407 --> 00:58:58,638
But it's right next to the apartment
complex, right next to the drainage
ditch.

1055
00:58:58,705 --> 00:58:59,605
Oh, right next to the

1056
00:58:59,672 --> 00:59:02,103
You said conversation we had on the
second page.

1057
00:59:02,170 --> 00:59:03,535
Yeah. Okay.

1058
00:59:03,602 --> 00:59:07,400
Yeah, I drove by there today and I
know what you're talking about. It's
a different house.

1059
00:59:07,467 --> 00:59:08,799
Different house.

1060
00:59:11,097 --> 00:59:13,795
tarps that are blowing down.

1061
00:59:15,194 --> 00:59:17,126
and junk blowing into the street.

1062
00:59:17,193 --> 00:59:19,592
Additional questions, comments,
concerns?

1063
00:59:20,891 --> 00:59:23,589
Seeing those, a motion to approve the
resolutions as presented.

1064
00:59:24,189 --> 00:59:25,088
I make the motion.

1065
00:59:25,155 --> 00:59:26,087
Motion.

1066
00:59:26,154 --> 00:59:26,987
There a second?

1067
00:59:27,054 --> 00:59:28,019
Second.

1068
00:59:28,086 --> 00:59:29,485
All those in favor say I.

1069
00:59:29,552 --> 00:59:30,418
I.

1070
00:59:30,485 --> 00:59:32,383
Any opposed?

1071
00:59:32,883 --> 00:59:34,715
This is not a notice to this time.

1072
00:59:34,782 --> 00:59:36,780
For which prepared child will make a
motion?

1073
00:59:36,847 --> 00:59:38,180
I'll say.

1074
00:59:38,779 --> 00:59:39,911
Hey.

1075
00:59:39,978 --> 00:59:42,377
7:45 to reconvene.

1076
00:59:42,444 --> 00:59:43,976
7:45.

1077
00:59:46,674 --> 00:59:47,507
Okay.

1078
00:59:47,574 --> 00:59:50,072
I move the city commission recess

1079
00:59:50,139 --> 00:59:52,570
in executive session to discuss
matters

1080
00:59:52,637 --> 00:59:54,969
of non-elected personnel pursuing to

1081
00:59:55,036 --> 00:59:59,965
KSA 75-4319 B1.

1082
01:15:20,892 --> 01:15:25,818
All right, the time is now 7:45. I'd
like to call the meeting back to
order.

1083
01:15:26,988 --> 01:15:29,046
You make a motion?

1084
01:15:29,696 --> 01:15:33,217
I actually bring the meeting back to
order.

1085
01:15:33,284 --> 01:15:34,616
There we go.

1086
01:15:34,832 --> 01:15:35,665
There's second.

1087
01:15:35,732 --> 01:15:37,461
All those in favor say I. I. I.

1088
01:15:37,811 --> 01:15:39,143
Any oppose?

1089
01:15:39,909 --> 01:15:42,558
No action take, so commission
comments.

1090
01:15:42,758 --> 01:15:43,730
Mr. Fairchild.

1091
01:15:43,797 --> 01:15:50,792
Uh, I want to thank Tim Agner for
serving and I want to thank Tim
Harding for stepping up.

1092
01:15:52,621 --> 01:15:55,712
You know, I think it's a a challenge

1093
01:15:55,779 --> 01:16:01,735
to get people to serve, especially in
something capacity like this.

1094
01:16:02,045 --> 01:16:09,040
So, I'm looking forward to next year
and getting stuff done and better
communication.

1095
01:16:10,619 --> 01:16:16,529
You know, I I'm convinced that the
solution of most problems are

1096
01:16:16,596 --> 01:16:21,083
through productive conversations,
even when you disagree.

1097
01:16:21,312 --> 01:16:27,372
And so I'm willing to talk to anybody
about almost anything.

1098
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:32,465
There's a few boundaries, you know,
what goes on inside my house.

1099
01:16:32,795 --> 01:16:34,634
But that's probably about it.

1100
01:16:34,764 --> 01:16:37,245
And looking forward to next year.

1101
01:16:37,312 --> 01:16:42,059
And thank you Todd and our whole
staff. I'm proud of our staff.

1102
01:16:42,599 --> 01:16:44,697
I really mean that.

1103
01:16:44,967 --> 01:16:51,363
I think they do a heck of a job in
sometimes uncomfortable conditions.

1104
01:16:51,773 --> 01:16:52,745
And so thank you.

1105
01:16:52,812 --> 01:16:57,659
And I pray for our staff and our
governing body every night.

1106
01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:02,209
So he hears me on both things.

1107
01:17:02,276 --> 01:17:03,109
[laughter]

1108
01:17:03,915 --> 01:17:05,344
That's it. Thank you.

1109
01:17:05,774 --> 01:17:07,106
Mr. Taylor.

1110
01:17:07,223 --> 01:17:08,735
Oh, I echo Tim's comments.

1111
01:17:08,802 --> 01:17:13,619
Welcome. One commissioner Tim and I
enjoyed being with Mr. Agner too.

1112
01:17:14,228 --> 01:17:19,608
Uh, the only thing I have, uh, 1502
West 9th, the house, my house will

1113
01:17:19,675 --> 01:17:22,773
have a fiber hooked up tomorrow.

1114
01:17:23,122 --> 01:17:26,923
So it's been a long time coming, but
it is finally going to be there.

1115
01:17:26,990 --> 01:17:28,402
So, uh,

1116
01:17:28,469 --> 01:17:31,640
I still got to get it through the
house and I don't think it's on yet.

1117
01:17:31,707 --> 01:17:32,540
But I appreciate it.

1118
01:17:32,607 --> 01:17:34,092
And it looks like that's going good
out there.

1119
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:34,992
Going very well.

1120
01:17:35,059 --> 01:17:39,129
Haven't heard any, haven't heard any
complaints from anybody out there
about that.

1121
01:17:39,196 --> 01:17:43,446
No, there we have 30, 35 drops left,
but still on track to be done by end

1122
01:17:43,513 --> 01:17:46,514
of this month and all hookups
hopefully done by end of February.

1123
01:17:46,581 --> 01:17:49,982
And the project that Darren's doing
is going to be a blessing to the city

1124
01:17:50,049 --> 01:17:52,620
too and I'm just glad it's moving
forward finally.

1125
01:17:52,687 --> 01:17:53,949
That's all I have.

1126
01:17:54,016 --> 01:17:55,198
Thank you.

1127
01:17:55,265 --> 01:17:56,238
Mr. Harding.

1128
01:17:56,305 --> 01:17:58,646
I just, uh, want to thank you guys
for welcoming me.

1129
01:17:58,713 --> 01:18:02,364
I really look forward to working with
you guys for uh, the next

1130
01:18:02,431 --> 01:18:04,669
four years. I think we can get a lot
of stuff done.

1131
01:18:04,769 --> 01:18:09,906
And my phone's always open, my
email's open, give me a call anytime.

1132
01:18:10,156 --> 01:18:12,135
Thank you very much for having.

1133
01:18:12,514 --> 01:18:13,347
[inaudible]

1134
01:18:13,564 --> 01:18:14,466
Mr. Birdy.

1135
01:18:14,533 --> 01:18:17,324
I'd like to echo what the other
gentlemen have to say.

1136
01:18:17,391 --> 01:18:18,703
And Tim, welcome aboard.

1137
01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:19,660
Thank you.

1138
01:18:19,727 --> 01:18:21,607
I really appreciate the community
giving me another two years

1139
01:18:21,674 --> 01:18:23,040
to serve on the commission.

1140
01:18:23,107 --> 01:18:27,794
And I pledge to do what I think is
best for the community as a whole.

1141
01:18:28,034 --> 01:18:32,431
Looking forward to the next year and
two years and what's in store.

1142
01:18:33,271 --> 01:18:36,159
And I pray that uh, our community be
blessed.

1143
01:18:37,228 --> 01:18:41,036
We'll have a lot of positive things
happening in 26.

1144
01:18:42,095 --> 01:18:43,997
Thank everybody. Appreciate the
staff.

1145
01:18:44,064 --> 01:18:47,575
Mr. Drake, you're part of that staff.
I know a lot of times you don't get
mentioned.

1146
01:18:47,642 --> 01:18:48,824
Yeah, I'm okay being there.

1147
01:18:48,891 --> 01:18:49,724
[laughter]

1148
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:52,678
And I'd like to get it to you, I'm
sure. It's a good thing.

1149
01:18:52,928 --> 01:18:54,260
Let me stay low.

1150
01:18:54,527 --> 01:18:55,360
[laughter]

1151
01:18:55,706 --> 01:18:57,038
Thank you.

1152
01:18:57,795 --> 01:19:01,206
And likewise, I'd like to thank Mr.
Agner and welcome Mr. Harding.

1153
01:19:01,273 --> 01:19:08,268
I think community has a support and I
think community has a support and I
think there's another another nice
line they have to inquire and have a
voice.

1154
01:19:08,418 --> 01:19:10,856
Thank you as well too and glad to
have you join.

1155
01:19:11,086 --> 01:19:13,438
And kind of like Mr., Mr. Newman
brought this up earlier,

1156
01:19:13,505 --> 01:19:15,546
but I was going to bring it up as
well too.

1157
01:19:15,613 --> 01:19:17,675
Thank you to Mr. Ryan Bulmer for uh,

1158
01:19:17,742 --> 01:19:19,983
leading such a great Planning
Commission the other evening.

1159
01:19:20,050 --> 01:19:22,312
I think a lot of a lot of great
discussion regarding the

1160
01:19:22,379 --> 01:19:24,870
the plotting out in the in the Osa
Martin.

1161
01:19:24,937 --> 01:19:27,808
I I think there's going to be a lot
of concerns that we that we face

1162
01:19:27,875 --> 01:19:29,427
that were very vocal during that.

1163
01:19:29,494 --> 01:19:32,206
I mean, the the root of the the
discussion was approving

1164
01:19:32,273 --> 01:19:35,144
or disapproving the plotting that's
out there at the

1165
01:19:35,211 --> 01:19:37,832
at the Osa Martin.

1166
01:19:37,899 --> 01:19:40,650
Kind of with with turn ins off 14th
to get a few more items or

1167
01:19:40,717 --> 01:19:44,228
or plots open back up for our for our
citizens.

1168
01:19:44,295 --> 01:19:47,176
I I think vocal concerns of drainage
or traffic issues or

1169
01:19:47,243 --> 01:19:49,274
those types of things.

1170
01:19:49,341 --> 01:19:52,812
Absolutely. I think those will be
necessary conversations in the
future.

1171
01:19:52,879 --> 01:19:55,490
But right now focusing just on
getting the plotting completed,

1172
01:19:55,557 --> 01:20:00,045
giving an option available for us to
use in the future, should we need it.

1173
01:20:00,610 --> 01:20:03,341
I don't think with the the
improvements we're doing now,

1174
01:20:03,408 --> 01:20:05,440
it's going to be a a top priority at
least on on my end.

1175
01:20:05,507 --> 01:20:08,438
both in terms of of lots we have
available

1176
01:20:08,505 --> 01:20:10,836
and also infrastructure costs and all
that as well too.

1177
01:20:10,903 --> 01:20:13,135
but it's nice to have that on our on
our playbooks.

1178
01:20:13,202 --> 01:20:14,035
Okay.

1179
01:20:14,102 --> 01:20:16,734
I thank everyone for all the
conversation that we're involved with
that

1180
01:20:16,801 --> 01:20:19,132
and get moved on.

1181
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:20,951
So with that, I'll entertain a motion
to adjourn.

1182
01:20:21,018 --> 01:20:22,430
We re-adjourn. I'll second.

1183
01:20:22,497 --> 01:20:23,429
All those in favor say I.

1184
01:20:23,496 --> 01:20:24,629
[multiple voices] Aye.

1185
01:20:24,696 --> 01:20:26,028
Opposed?

1186
01:20:26,294 --> 01:20:28,293
Thank you all.

1187
01:20:28,693 --> 01:20:29,526
Thanks.