1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,760 and most of you probably have the minutes from the 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:13,559 last uh meeting and entertain a motion to approve those this is Jason I'll I'll 3 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:20,760 make that motion I have a motion do I have 4 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:27,800 a i second it I second by St all in favor let it be 5 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:31,960 known Bes ah ah 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:44,399 okay uh minutes are approved do we have any public comments from 7 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:47,559 anyone yes I do this is Jeff Knox and I just want to kind of keep everybody in 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:52,160 the loop of what's going on with the subdivision um obviously we're approved 9 00:00:49,879 --> 00:00:55,680 in our last uh our last thing to do is go through the Planning Commission here 10 00:00:54,359 --> 00:01:01,079 um there's a couple of things that we don't have 100% done yet and uh that 11 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:08,040 would be we're working with uh me and Mark and JW wford Greg and WS 12 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:14,520 engineering and Southern Sales all had a meeting we're trying to get the 13 00:01:11,479 --> 00:01:19,119 um everything together for the actual uh they're doing a hydraulic model for the 14 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:24,079 sewer system to actually find out exactly to to make to make everybody uh 15 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,320 happy with what we need and and make sure it can flow what we need it to flow 16 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:34,360 and all that stuff so that hydraulic model is being worked on um for 17 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:38,439 everybody including Mr Chan also for John Chun to to make sure that he we 18 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,960 don't take all the sewer from him also so that's the only everything else we 19 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,680 have in place and everything everybody's asked for it's all all that's done this 20 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:50,079 is our last thing that we're trying to do and uh so we're working on that and 21 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:54,479 hopefully we'll have something here within the next uh two weeks or so um 22 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,840 all that should be finished so I just want to kind of give everybody the heads 23 00:01:55,799 --> 00:02:01,600 up and I don't know if Mark if you need to put in on any of that and and bring 24 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:07,880 anybody up to speed maybe I didn't mention or anything and no I I actually 25 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:13,480 uh was working with Greg on on some of that today uh we're working on getting 26 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:19,400 him you know some more some more data for him to um create that model so we're 27 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:24,080 hoping to have something done I I think we said 30 days from the day we met Jeff 28 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:32,200 if I'm not mistaken I believe that's what it was so hopefully um we'll have 29 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:35,959 something um by this time next month uh and that's one thing we do need to 30 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:40,239 discuss before this meeting gets gets out is 31 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:45,480 our we typically don't meet in December uh so we might need to be 32 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:50,480 thinking about either a um you know a date that we might want to do before we 33 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:54,480 get into Christmas or or right after the holidays or or whatever y'all want to 34 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:58,519 do do 35 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:06,959 any I would just let Mark come up with a date and just send it out to us be fine 36 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:14,680 with me or Mar you you can that works for me 37 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:19,599 too okay we'll we'll work with a couple of dates and send them out and see 38 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:24,680 what's good for everybody that sounds great Mark I'm out I'm sorry I was on 39 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:31,040 mute I'm out the first week of December I'm having surgery so I won't be able to 40 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,040 come but I can do it via Zoom probably 41 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:44,159 okay okay any other comments all right we'll move on to 42 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:49,720 agenda item 4 a Morehead subdivision request do to 43 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:57,680 that yeah I had a couple of questions is is Will on here or not will is on here 44 00:03:52,959 --> 00:04:00,959 okay uh so is is this a sketch plaid a preliminary plaid or is it supposed to 45 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:05,000 be a play I think it it was just a sketch 46 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,159 that they were submitting for for approval and then you know if yall 47 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:15,720 proved it he was going to finalized it I guess okay because uh has has the city's 48 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:21,199 engineer reviewed it I have looked at it there's a few 49 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:24,800 calls missing I noticed on the boundary okay and locational utilities the 50 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:27,720 biggest thing of the boundary calls though and making sure it's separated 51 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:32,600 into separate Parcels that was that was one thing I 52 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:38,240 was looking at the the I guess we'll call it the mother parcel you know the 53 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:43,639 original parcel there's almost no data at all on that but that will be a lot 54 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:48,440 you know if it's if it's under five acres it it you know cannot just be 55 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:52,320 shown as remaining portion of the property it would need it would be my 56 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:57,639 belief that it would need you know all the same information as the new 34 acre 57 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:01,680 lot is that is that correct stason yes we need to show everything on there and 58 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,720 the area and the setbacks and all of that because you're now creating two 59 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:11,039 lots so you need to show all the information okay uh and we'll remember 60 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:16,479 on the on the mother parcel we'll call it the bigger parcel uh we did pass an 61 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:22,840 ordinance a while back that K tril may not be aware of that we have a greater 62 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:29,720 setback on Nashville Highway than we do in just regular R1 Zone uh so just make 63 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:35,160 sure if assuming we approve it make sure Mr canr knows that the front setback 64 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:43,120 along 31a the setback line will be greater and I I think we we increased 65 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:46,919 that to was it 75 minimum or or 50 foot minimum I can't remember what it was but 66 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:51,639 it was a greater greater setback than than a normal R1 would require I 67 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:03,080 think I can't remember exactly what that was yeah I I just remember we increased 68 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:07,840 it or or we had a minimum along the highway that it couldn't you know go 69 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:14,759 under just pled for I'll check that out I'll check that out and and get with uh 70 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:20,720 will and and his surveyor and and make sure that that gets on the final for 71 00:06:16,919 --> 00:06:26,479 y'all to approve okay and one other question because the because the 72 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:30,479 original lot is so big is there any need for any storm water calculations or 73 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:35,599 anything on this or is it okay because the mother parcel is s is still such a 74 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,599 large 75 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,919 parcel no I mean it's still a residential lot and we're they're not 76 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:47,800 making any grading or adjustments to it so I okay perfect hey this is Jason I've 77 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,240 got a question and will I only bring this up because I've had a few uh 78 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:55,560 members of the uh Stonybrook subdivision asked me this and I didn't know I mean I 79 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,960 think they've just seen the survey Stakes out there and they've had a 80 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:05,120 question I guess the house there's only one house that you're looking at 81 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:08,879 building right and that's the the lot on the on the leftand side of Sunny Side 82 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:16,120 going in is that correct is that what we're looking at right okay and on that 83 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:19,879 one and I'm not saying you you have to because I don't think we can set that 84 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:25,240 perimeter because it's not a part of the original subdivision uh the only 85 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:31,280 questions I've had is it going to look uniform to the rest of the houses in the 86 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:34,680 subdivision uh was their concern that's the first thing 87 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:39,199 you see when you pull in on the left so what was your what was your plans um and 88 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:44,400 like I said I don't think the Planning Commission can uh can dictate what you 89 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:48,639 build there uh I was just asking because I've been asked so if somebody turns 90 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Tunes in or goes back and looks at the video then I've done what I've told him 91 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:58,039 I would do and that's to ask you yeah okay so I mean our plans are to try to 92 00:07:55,759 --> 00:08:01,639 keep it pretty uniform with it with the subdivision there so I mean there is 93 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:04,759 like you said there is no I don't think there's any restrictions and it's not 94 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,080 part of that subdivision so I don't think there's a full-blown requirement 95 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:13,960 but you know our plan is to try to do something you know that fits in I mean 96 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:18,879 I'm not looking to pull in a a double wide trailer there or do Straight vinyl 97 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:22,280 sighting or something so I mean you know I think we'd like to keep it looking 98 00:08:20,159 --> 00:08:26,680 uniform it'll bring more money and it'll help everybody else's prices stay in 99 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,000 line and I mean keep in mind we we still own our family still owns the house 100 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:34,279 across the street from there so I looked that up but I thought I 101 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:38,399 thought you still my grandmother my grandmother bought that from Matt so so 102 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:43,120 I mean we're not looking to you know cut her on throat there either so so it just 103 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,560 be a a brick house or a brick vinyl combination is that what you're looking 104 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:53,480 at right okay yeah and I would say like 14 to 1,800 square feet somewhere in 105 00:08:49,480 --> 00:09:00,440 that vicinity so okay all right that's all I've got all right Cas there 106 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,440 anything else 107 00:09:00,839 --> 00:09:10,240 are there any we need to take what can we make a motion on this before we get 108 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,480 the uh the plat as Stacy requested with the final information on 109 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:24,760 there I I don't think we can approve it as a plat I mean I think we could give 110 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:28,440 it a thumbs up as a as a concept you know that the concept works but it's 111 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:32,600 missing you know signature blocks and a bunch of information on the original 112 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:38,640 parcel uh I did have one other question is uh what did we decide a while back on 113 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:42,440 the sidewalks is this exemp on the sidewalk retirement or will both lots 114 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:47,839 have to have a sidewalk along sunny side and national highway I don't remember I 115 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:53,040 remember was back and forth on a five lot minimum and then we went to pretty 116 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:57,959 much anything on the Underground you know underground power in the sidewalk 117 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:02,240 but I can't remember what the final determination was is this is this 118 00:09:59,839 --> 00:10:08,640 something that'll require a sidewalk around it or not I I think as it's 119 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:12,959 written uh it would not but I would have to double check 120 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:18,640 that can we make an can we make an exemption and vote on an exemption for 121 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,920 um an exception for something like that to make will put a a sidewalk in front 122 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,920 of the house yeah it wouldn't really be practical I mean because not going 123 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:30,480 anywhere look ridiculous yeah I think that it has language in there that that 124 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:35,120 keeps things practic where that it would not require that 125 00:10:32,839 --> 00:10:35,120 okay 126 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:44,839 perfect okay so we want to give him a thumbs up on the concept that's what 127 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:49,240 you're saying yeah I think conceptually as long as as long as all the 128 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:53,760 requirements for Signature blocks and everything you know pretty much anything 129 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:58,480 that Stacy you know the city's engineer firm would require I you know 130 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:02,720 conceptually it looks like it would work I mean I think we could a thumbs up as a 131 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:11,519 concept plan but I don't think we can officially vote on it can it be approved 132 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:11,519 subject to No it's it's missing too 133 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:22,519 much so basically we're going to say that we are in agreement 134 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:28,639 unless speaks up we have a census that uh it's up but it need 135 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:39,680 everybody I can't hear any you're cutting in and out Maran uh I think I 136 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:45,839 think what Isaac said is okay with with me as far as 137 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:45,839 giving him a thumbs up this is 138 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:54,320 Jason this Maran if I think maybe the simplest thing to do would just be to 139 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:59,680 vote to defer it and just have it come back I mean the we'll need to do a plat 140 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:05,079 approval so we'll need to see the that extra information on there um and he 141 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,160 doesn't need a concept plan or sketch plan approval for this so I I think the 142 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:14,760 simplest thing would be just to defer till next meeting and then presumably 143 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:19,920 approve it with the information on it thank you do I have do I have a motion 144 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:24,920 to defer I would make that motion to Def he 145 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:30,040 to the next meeting I have a motion to defer to the 146 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:32,600 next meeting do I have a second I second 147 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:42,160 it I have a motion and a second all in favor say I or you can put the little 148 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:51,880 raise your down at the bottom I I I've raised my 149 00:12:46,839 --> 00:12:55,959 hand okay thank you very much let's move to the Dollar General 150 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:06,040 plan mark this is um one we talked about last month 151 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:11,880 where the um for the overhead electric that's 152 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:16,240 on that one side uh right here this little piece was 153 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:23,519 showing as underground and uh we discussed last 154 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:27,959 month to for them to be able to do it as they've done it they would need a 155 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:34,079 revised site plan and this is that res revised site plan that that shows this 156 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:37,920 as overhead and then we subsequently uh uh we furthermore said that we were 157 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:42,920 going to create something that eliminated that issue uh in the future 158 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:49,360 and we'll be getting something out to y'all and advertising that uh um 159 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:54,360 Amendment to the uh to the regulations uh but this is that revised 160 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:59,880 site plan that that makes everything right with the current Dollar General 161 00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:08,440 Store okay do I have a motion to approve the re revised site plan so 162 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:14,320 move I have a motion do I have a second I'll second 163 00:14:11,079 --> 00:14:24,000 it I have a motion and a second all in favor Let It Be n by saying I I I it 164 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:28,199 carries we'll move on to agenda item Forest landscape plan 165 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:38,519 have U Doug shinkle on here if anyone's got any questions this is uh one of the 166 00:14:36,079 --> 00:14:44,120 items that was uh noted that we still needed to 167 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:48,720 approve uh for the River Forest uh site plan which was the the landscape portion 168 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,720 of 169 00:14:51,360 --> 00:15:00,240 it do we have have any discussion any questions yeah I I had a question I know 170 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:06,000 this property originally was 171 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:12,120 zoned B1 is that correct Mark and I think B2 B B2 what was it reone because 172 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:18,639 if it's still B2 would it require a landscape buffer on the north on the 173 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:23,480 North side uh or or or not because is is the north side Zone B2 as well or did 174 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:30,880 they rezone it to R3 to exempt that requirement I I don't remember what we 175 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:37,319 did I think that the first think 100t of this property if I'm not mistaken is is 176 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:42,560 still B2 with the backside R3 but it's all it's all being done with the put 177 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:46,839 overlay so so I would I would defer to tide to answer the question whether that 178 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:51,399 underlying zoning had any um had anything we needed to do with 179 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:56,560 that underlying zoning since it's done as a 180 00:15:53,759 --> 00:16:00,120 PUD and and I guess the second part of that 181 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:04,079 question does any one know the future plans of the property to the north of 182 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:12,920 that well and I guess that's my question too Mark sort of is related to that what 183 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:19,120 is the immediately adjacent to that currently zone is it still R3 but part 184 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:23,959 of the put overlay to the north is a residential property uh if I'm not 185 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:29,720 mistaken uh and then the properties to the South 186 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:34,040 are uh commercial so so would we need a landscape buffer 187 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:38,759 there or is that something that's our discretion I I think we' need a 188 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:43,639 landscape buffer between the adjacent 189 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:47,519 residential not necessarily within the Pud I'm not sure exactly where we're 190 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:52,000 talking about without seeing the entire development but it's an adjacent partial 191 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:59,440 that's residential I think we'll need that buffer between 192 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:04,679 those this property line here I think uh a residential property to the north yeah 193 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:10,079 that's I think and it's just an undeveloped portion of property but it 194 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:14,600 you know someone could develop it and it could be residential or or easily Zone 195 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:19,360 commercial but right now with it being residential I think at a minimum it 196 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:23,120 would need a some type of a you know a landscape buffer or rais burn with some 197 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:27,439 small Landscaping you know some something that would satisfy as a buffer 198 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:40,559 hey guys it's it's Doug shinkle um I've got I've got my engineer Reagan Smith on 199 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:43,360 there uh Mark are you on I am so we had a 200 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:48,080 landscape uh architect specialist do all this 201 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:54,080 design with Reagan Smith and I know we were going back and forth following your 202 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:59,720 ordinances but but Mark when we when we went back through and I probably did 203 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:03,880 three or four revisions to this to add plants and make sure we cover the 204 00:18:02,159 --> 00:18:10,039 ordinances but Mark do you know the ordinance that we 205 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:14,280 followed uh she's Kate is actually on the call she's the one who went through 206 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:18,520 the ordinances um I asked her to get on the call to speak the land landscape 207 00:18:16,679 --> 00:18:24,720 side of it I know the property of the north is Zone R1 so yall right it is a 208 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:29,960 residential property um but Kate did you see anything in the ordinance that 209 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:36,159 specifies that we have to have a buffer against an existing residential property 210 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:41,880 um hi um for uh first of all nice to be here um I'm looking through the 211 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:46,039 landscape ordinance that's um behind the that's in the same L um document as the 212 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:55,240 zoning ordinance and really I um let me look 213 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:58,960 through it yeah I think we had something or have had something that would require 214 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:01,600 it at least on that first 100 foot that would have the 215 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:07,919 underlying uh commercial zone or B you know the B 216 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:13,480 anytime there's a b Zone a budding you know an or Zone in in the past we always 217 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:20,120 required some type of a landscape buffer U for the separation 218 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,840 there but to me it just to do a 100 foot of it I would I would either do it all 219 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:28,720 or none to me it seems like a transitional 220 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:33,919 screening or buffer will be required to to the northern property just because 221 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:40,760 it's a vacant residential lot and this would fall under like a 222 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:46,480 multifam not or higher density okay um it just says densely planted strip of at 223 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:52,480 least 10 feet in width um and it goes into a little specific about um how many 224 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:58,880 trees or um percentages of trees planted maybe deciduous um things like that um 225 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:02,799 so so are y'all open to putting landscape buffer on that Northern 226 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,799 property 227 00:20:02,919 --> 00:20:09,720 line so we're all on the same page we're speaking about from from basically the 228 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:15,919 front of the property to right here where the the end of the um town homes 229 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:22,200 are is that correct yeah and it and it would be more for the benefit of the 230 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:27,320 adjoining property um I I think that's the intent when we have talked about 231 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:33,000 that before it's U just screen but does the ordinance but does the ordinance is 232 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:38,880 is stating right there right now does it say that that is required I I think it I 233 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:44,960 think it is we've we've asked other people to do that when a b Zone buts up 234 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:48,799 to an R zone now this is our first is is this a putt overlay mark it is a putt 235 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:55,159 overlay and that would be my question for tide is is what's going to be the um 236 00:20:53,080 --> 00:21:01,280 you know the controlling ordinance here would it be the the put overlay uh or 237 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:08,640 would it be the the underlying zone or or would it matter uh well I think yeah 238 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:13,880 I think on the HUD we we have the option or the right to request pretty much 239 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:18,840 anything we want so I mean I I I I think it would need something in a minimum uh 240 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:23,880 and I mean I'd be okay with the plan is drawn if if something was added on the 241 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:28,360 Northern side right there yeah and I don't to answer the question I think 242 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:32,760 with respect to the adjacent Parcels I don't think there's anything in the put 243 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:39,440 ordinance that would exempt it from having to comply with the boundary to an 244 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:44,919 adjacent parcel now if it if it is within the Pud itself you know I think 245 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:51,640 then you could wave any sort of landscaping um if you wanted to between 246 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:56,320 uses within the Pud but um you know that language in the ordinance with respect 247 00:21:53,320 --> 00:22:01,440 to the buffer between a a b Zone and a residential Zone has been in there you 248 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:08,240 know forever so what about a b Zone going up against a an agricultural Zone 249 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:11,440 because it buts up to Greg Harris's Farm yeah in the city Jason in the city we 250 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:17,760 don't have an agricultural Zone everything's either b or R 251 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:22,360 okay okay well that I just wanted to ask to make sure because I know that Reagan 252 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Smith dove into those ordinance pretty hard and and it looks like um we should 253 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:32,520 be able to add something along that border I just wanted to ask the question 254 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:38,400 to make sure we're on the same page yeah and um which this doesn't have 255 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:45,240 anything to do with the Landscaping but I know right now as the lot lays there's 256 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:48,640 a uh there's a high voltage overhead power line going pretty much right 257 00:22:46,679 --> 00:22:53,400 through the center of the parcel is y'all's plan to reroute that to stay 258 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:57,440 overhead right against the highway or y'all going to jump underground go 259 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:02,480 through your property and then jump back overhead if y'all have yall talk through 260 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:09,400 that no we have and we've we've worked with Duck River Electric and all those 261 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:13,360 engineers and we just last week got a verbalization of kind of how their 262 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:16,679 long-term plan play is against the the state highway and what they want to do 263 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:21,000 longterm and shortterm so it's moving those power 264 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:28,039 lines that come through those Town HS and pulling them up forward to the 265 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:33,919 street um but staying overhead and and it's overhead and we go underground from 266 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:38,279 from the highway to the development but they have a they have a 267 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:43,080 long-term plan that they've been working on too for the potential growth and 268 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,600 moving some of those polls and there's some pretty big polls they're going to 269 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:53,320 put in front there and Isaac yeah to Todd this a question for you because 270 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:59,720 they're because they're having to route an existing overhead power line are we 271 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:04,640 okay because they're being rerouted in in just a different part of the property 272 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:07,720 we're okay with those staying overhead uh because they're already there they're 273 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:12,640 just being rerouted is H they're technically not running new power into 274 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:16,480 the property there's already existing overhead on the property they just got 275 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,600 to reroute it to get it off the rooftops U are the proposed rooftops are we okay 276 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:25,600 with that staying overhead as long as they rout it on the highway and then my 277 00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:31,640 next question on that once it's rerouted on the highway is Duck River going to be 278 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:35,039 okay with your Landscaping plan with all these trees underneath their high 279 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:39,799 voltage lines because typically typically they're going to want to wipe 280 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:44,919 out a 40 foot strip uh so kind of to me it seems like it defeats the purpose if 281 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:48,880 we plant these trees and then two years later Duck River comes in and cuts them 282 00:24:46,679 --> 00:24:48,880 all 283 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:56,159 down um that's a this is Kate the landscape architect I have a question 284 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:00,399 about that so you're we're showing Street tree because your ordinance is 285 00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:08,279 requiring us to show Street trees along um any like Highway and the public roads 286 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:14,760 um if there is a in case where there is a utility conflict is is Street tree 287 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:20,000 something that can be waved um through Planning Commission or um yeah that was 288 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:25,799 that was kind of the nature of of my question because it's it's uh you know 289 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:29,279 we're battling two things which I know I know Going Underground is an option it's 290 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:33,240 just not a cheap option especially when you're dealing with underground primary 291 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:38,799 the you know the high voltage that's probably a three-phase line through 292 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:44,159 there it's a three phase I know it's possible but the cost of it is is you 293 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:48,960 know would not be a would not help how a bit to do that but if we allow you to 294 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:54,640 reroute it and stay overhead and and if we approve this plan 295 00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:58,039 as it's drawn this plan in a year is going to be completely voided because 296 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:03,640 Duck River is going to send their crew in just MCH them trees down to nothing 297 00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:08,159 in fact in fact Duck River may not even let you 298 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:12,520 plant this is Mark Merill with Reagan Smith I know um a few months ago when we 299 00:26:10,919 --> 00:26:15,720 originally started talking about this in the P discussion we brought up that 300 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,039 there's going to be a power line rerouted there and that we didn't want 301 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,399 to show trees and and the response we kind of got was well it's in the 302 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:27,080 ordinance so I think we're both kind of on the same page here is that this these 303 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,960 trees are theoretically if we go underground or overground still don't 304 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:36,200 see them allowing us to plant anything in fact I think right now they're shown 305 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:42,159 as a small shrub instead of a tree um but I think it goes back to Kate's point 306 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:45,440 I mean it if we if it's a if it's a mute point to show them anyways and they're 307 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:52,279 going to either get planted get ripped up or taken out can we just not show 308 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:57,440 them well I guess Todd that's a um question I guess I have for you if in 309 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:02,480 in in a situation like this where underground is a option it just would be 310 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:09,679 a financial hardship on the developer do we allow them to get around 311 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:14,720 our regulation due to a financial issue or do 312 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:19,360 we leave the trees and and and go underground yeah I don't I don't know 313 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:25,720 that our ordinance would allow us to require them to go underground for 314 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:32,399 this moving of an existing line it's not they're not moving a you know new power 315 00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:36,000 to to the property um and especially with it being the high voltage I don't 316 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,600 I'd have to look back at it but I don't know that we can require them to go 317 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:43,840 underground the way our ordinance is written under these 318 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:49,000 circumstances well what what does it make sense for us to allow them to 319 00:27:46,399 --> 00:27:53,080 reroute it overhead knowing that they're going to have to plant these trees and 320 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:58,399 cut them down or well and again that that is something I think we can do is 321 00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:05,360 to adjust the Landscaping requirement to fit the whe whether that's removing it 322 00:28:00,919 --> 00:28:10,799 all together or moving it outside the the utility right away okay or but one 323 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:14,799 option or other I think you could certainly make that do something that 324 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:19,919 makes sense that we don't have to put something there that's gonna get 325 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:25,320 demolished so so Mark Mark this is a question for you can can y'all get back 326 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:30,679 with Duck River and see what they will allow so we can keep some type of some 327 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:34,760 type of landscaping or a burn with some short Shrubbery there is there can y'all 328 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:39,240 get with Duck River to see what they would allow or what height they would 329 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:43,640 allow and come up with a you know leave leave a landscape buffer but come up 330 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:48,120 with an exception for some low low growing 331 00:28:45,399 --> 00:28:53,960 um plants of some kind that that that Duck River would be okay with yes and 332 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,440 and the another caveat throw on top of that is right behind that electric Ean 333 00:28:55,679 --> 00:29:00,760 is the existing water line that runs along Horton highway so you're going to 334 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:04,960 be dealing with two utility easements on that side so I see somebody running a 335 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:11,039 hand up and down the left side of that road um that right there is really our 336 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:15,679 viable strip for showing any type of screening to where I think we could get 337 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:19,640 any height associated with it but yes we can we we can easily reach back out to 338 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Duck River and see what if any they allow within their easement under their 339 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:30,039 line certain height restrictions even if it's just a 4 foot dirt BM or something 340 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:33,840 like that okay out to we find out and I think that would be the most I 341 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:41,159 think that'd be the most practical thing to do okay I think that if we can just 342 00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:46,360 uh give some kind of aesthetic visual with some Landscaping to keep it from 343 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:50,679 going straight to Pavement uh yeah I think that's what we're trying to do is 344 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:56,039 is give it you know a nice visual aesthetic uh from the from the highway 345 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:07,640 okay okay what's your pleasure I would say you like with u 346 00:30:04,919 --> 00:30:11,640 with those two amendments would could could we approve it subject to uh maybe 347 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:15,960 Stacy and Mark just reviewing an amended plan that 348 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:21,519 would be okay with Duck River that would still have something along the highway 349 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:25,399 and something new along the north side I think with those two additions or or 350 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:29,679 amendments you know I believe the rest of it as long as stac is okay with it I 351 00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:36,279 think rest of it would comply okay I have I have that as a 352 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:45,200 motion sure I second it I have a motion and a second all in 353 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:48,799 favor let it be known by saying I I I any 354 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:55,240 opposition carries moving down to other business 355 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,240 anybody have any other 356 00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:03,360 business Mark any updates on I would like to say go 357 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:11,120 ahead I was going to say there's going to be a meeting or that started at 6:30 358 00:31:06,679 --> 00:31:15,639 at Hugo has been giving the he has he is going to be given an award so I'm G to 359 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:21,399 be cutting out of here anybody who wants to come come on 360 00:31:21,639 --> 00:31:28,039 down okay now what did you want to say Isaac no I was just going to ask Mark if 361 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:33,000 there was any any new updates on the the sewer or just the same as last month 362 00:31:30,679 --> 00:31:39,240 basically the same as last month like Jeff mentioned earlier we're going to be 363 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:47,519 uh I'll be working with J.R wford to create a a hydraulic model to kind of 364 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:53,360 show um the uh capacity of our our current infrastructure with our current 365 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:59,360 plans uh based on everything that's been approved thus far uh to try to give uh 366 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,279 you know Jeff and his development some kind of idea of what what they would be 367 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:08,639 looking at in subsequent phases uh as far as what the need there would be with 368 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:16,639 the collection system okay okay can I get a motion to 369 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:24,440 adjourn sure I'll make that motion thank you do I have a 370 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:28,639 second I second it I don't have a second I have a motion in a second and we're 371 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,919 going to and 372 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200 talk thank