[0:03] it's called the Charles City it mates
[0:06] with School District Board of Education
[0:09] meeting to order number two a little
[0:25] agendas do we have any changes additions
[0:27] Corrections and I also post their sign
[0:42] motion carries
[0:43] one of welcome visitors for public
[0:45] comment will see you in your process for
[0:54] really assessment survey we have Mr
[0:58] Jerry Gallagher here again to help us
[1:00] discuss this we're so excited we have
[1:03] these special guests so Jerry's here we
[1:05] have Jerry Mitchell operations director
[1:07] under group Communications Justin -
[1:10] boring than our high school principal
[1:11] Brian Jones just so we know it's Jerry
[1:14] Gallagher probably be here with the
[1:15] first half an hour so we have things
[1:17] targeted for Kenny one way to do that
[1:22] the discussion who had to the first item
[1:25] they would like to discuss
[1:34] weirdly here also the stage person yeah
[1:53] we all know that we have some facilities
[1:56] you know you go back to 2013 you know
[1:59] when the bill school project came about
[2:01] you know this one plugin called phase 2
[2:03] you know phase 2 what we want to do with
[2:05] some high school renovations and things
[2:07] like that and now you know for a variety
[2:11] of reasons there's a little bit of a lag
[2:13] and you know the next steps on that but
[2:15] you know we've been having a lot of
[2:16] internal discussions and now we're ready
[2:18] to start having some more external
[2:20] discussions as well and you know we're
[2:23] looking at really tiny Gummidge of when
[2:26] it would you know first of all the
[2:27] timing of when we might ask the
[2:29] community to support this but also what
[2:31] it could be as well and what those
[2:33] things are because it's not just ice
[2:34] where we have needs with our secure
[2:37] entrances of the elementary you know
[2:39] there's other things we need to look at
[2:40] there's some learning opportunities with
[2:42] as we talked about pathway learning as
[2:45] we talked about so the partnership we've
[2:47] had with some of our you know with
[2:49] Niagara we talked about you know career
[2:50] based learning and those same types of
[2:52] things so that be driven that way as
[2:53] well and then also talking about you
[2:57] know what makes it sustainable what
[2:59] makes it attractive Northeast Iowa and
[3:01] you know facilities are a piece of that
[3:02] as well so I think that just kind of
[3:04] drives the discussion what what to do we
[3:06] obviously the postcard that shows us
[3:08] where the survey results showed us where
[3:11] we are in terms of understanding and
[3:15] comprehension the community of some of
[3:16] these needs so I just looking for
[3:19] guidance stuff from the board of what
[3:20] next steps may be and what we want to do
[3:23] Jerry
[3:24] together you walked on I have been
[3:27] through lots of facilities across the
[3:29] state of Iowa I'm talking about
[3:32] Washington and Lincoln and those secure
[3:34] entrances is that a common thing that
[3:36] you see where the upgrade is necessary
[3:41] yes yes and it is a common selling point
[3:48] to help drive home to folks the for lack
[3:52] of a better way to say it it gets
[3:55] people's attention when you're talking
[3:57] about safety and security it's something
[4:00] that has broad reach and heel to your
[4:03] stakeholders and so typically when I
[4:06] talk to school districts about that I
[4:09] recommend putting ads front and center
[4:11] when you're we're having conversations
[4:13] with why I'm wondering if um I'm a part
[4:20] of that safety issue would we all know
[4:22] the circles at the high school because
[4:24] there are the night lights and things
[4:26] like that and so that would be a part of
[4:29] the whole safety thing right yeah did
[4:32] you also get your foot traffic and where
[4:35] do you get most people when you're
[4:37] building it's probably with high school
[4:39] all right
[4:39] argument over the video Elementary so I
[4:43] think that and what I was in there it's
[4:47] all bit when you're selling needs you
[4:51] want to think about what makes us unique
[4:55] compared to other buildings because you
[4:58] have to assume that there is going to be
[5:00] a segment of your population that has
[5:03] been in other buildings and they've been
[5:05] in other high schools and you're those
[5:08] sight lines with those circles are so
[5:10] unique that I up again that's another
[5:13] issue that put near the top to say okay
[5:15] this is something that it worked in the
[5:18] 1960s it is not feasible now it isn't it
[5:23] isn't just a safety issue
[5:26] it's a mobility issue it's a more
[5:30] comfortable 'ti issue but for saving it
[5:33] security absolutely that's a problem
[5:35] that is a problem and also like all the
[5:39] outside doors that we have the
[5:41] two entrances yeah I was walking through
[5:44] your classrooms it might be at another
[5:47] high school that I had been in recently
[5:50] and I've had a lot of tools and so I
[5:52] know what stands out and some of those
[5:55] exit ways and entryways and classrooms
[5:58] were very unusual I guess I don't
[6:01] understand focus when the building is
[6:03] constructed but again easing the access
[6:07] is not necessarily something that I
[6:08] would want to against your high school
[6:17] what about Jerry what about learning
[6:19] spaces you know as we as we talk about
[6:21] learning spaces and into circles and in
[6:24] some of the areas that you walked in the
[6:25] high school how do those compare in
[6:28] terms of facilities to other areas that
[6:30] you've walked in the state this like
[6:33] antiquated you know it just they did not
[6:36] give me that feel of not regulation
[6:42] you're really looking at it was a city
[6:45] get kind of a learning style is what I
[6:48] thought what I want we're developing
[6:49] that this is very traditional
[6:51] instead of there's so many classroom
[6:54] settings today that have flexible
[6:57] seating you walk in if you know this is
[7:00] going to be very easy for these kids to
[7:01] collaborate I talk about my kids all the
[7:03] time always they gonna learn and it's
[7:05] just through constant conversation and
[7:07] when I wanted to your classrooms I kind
[7:09] of help this is pretty traditional which
[7:12] is okay and that's what we want but did
[7:16] you know there has to be something so as
[7:20] you've gone through other districts do
[7:22] see more flexible use spaces or do you
[7:25] see what we've kind of determined here
[7:27] is to be a traditional setup more
[7:29] flexible spaces I've even seen older
[7:32] buildings be making what they can with
[7:36] the space to modernize a little more
[7:38] effectively the motion able to do so
[7:40] mark to form a spaces that you know
[7:45] teachers can set aside time to
[7:48] collaborate students can set aside time
[7:51] to work together and I just didn't make
[7:54] those spaces are there and I saw that in
[7:56] old school I thought though at my school
[7:59] when you walked around did you see did
[8:01] you see areas where students felt
[8:03] thinking they could come
[8:04] you know Tom work on projects or
[8:09] homework things like that in high school
[8:13] yeah
[8:16] nothing comes to mind off the top of my
[8:19] head adjusted my under pressure I don't
[8:21] remember seeing that I felt that here
[8:24] kind of industrial death area was very
[8:27] strong and that there were there were
[8:29] spaces back there there's a lot in that
[8:32] area but otherwise I didn't you know I
[8:35] didn't kiss I don't remember anything
[8:38] that I saw but a couple months ago in
[8:41] part because it's good the movement of
[8:43] those circles that when you walk in
[8:45] there it just takes your attention away
[8:47] from everything else and so is it just
[8:49] hard you know physically put anything in
[8:52] there or kids to mean bit because so
[8:54] many schools now have these common areas
[8:58] you know have these places set aside for
[9:02] kids to be a little more together I
[9:04] don't remember anything like that make
[9:07] it wrong I think there's a little bit I
[9:13] mean there's kids do go in there though
[9:17] she used to like her library right and
[9:19] then I wouldn't know the computer lab
[9:21] but now people I know those seniors they
[9:29] are the senior she had launched an error
[9:30] on this in years
[9:33] and other than that it's like the study
[9:35] Hagen witnesses or Meyer or it's like a
[9:39] conference it's all the time just one
[9:46] now I don't know they might be split I
[9:48] added pounds that you don't know I know
[9:50] my soul Meyers is on the one side right
[9:52] where the desk is and then during this
[9:55] study quality other side is like more
[9:57] free range and sometimes like I know I'm
[9:59] in mr. Pittman's classroom sometimes we
[10:02] like going and the big table but it's in
[10:07] split or was where seniors are on one
[10:10] side the other those periods whatever
[10:13] wait
[10:13] and the other side versus tables yeah I
[10:16] think one of the things that the high
[10:21] school philosophy for a long time has
[10:24] will just make do with what we have
[10:27] right and I think this is
[10:31] a time where borders saying do we need
[10:34] to change that maritime
[10:37] and Brian do you want to speak to our
[10:40] strategic goals in terms of teaching and
[10:43] learning have been equity student
[10:45] leadership student engagement and
[10:47] especially you think about student
[10:48] leader statements to engagement Brian
[10:50] you wanna talk about some the
[10:50] conversations you're having as a staff
[10:52] where in the possible future of the term
[10:55] of teaching learning a little bit really
[11:03] freaking hard right now to come up with
[11:05] kind of a new model for our ice wall
[11:07] that's really focused on engagement
[11:09] that's you know kind of main purpose of
[11:11] it is that we take very strong that our
[11:13] high school right what's our goal our
[11:15] goal to prepare kids for post high
[11:16] school right and that goes a bunch of
[11:18] different directions unfortunately when
[11:20] you have you know the more traditional
[11:22] model kind of like we pointed out but
[11:25] we're not always hitting everything so
[11:27] we're really working together and oh the
[11:29] community group yesterday of some
[11:30] business leaders just kind of going
[11:32] through like what kind of things as our
[11:33] community become our kids what we're
[11:36] starting to learn is it's a lot of you
[11:37] know surprise a lot of hands on a lot of
[11:40] you know work based career based things
[11:42] which all tie into that engagement all
[11:45] the time that equity thing that when you
[11:47] just have four walls in the classroom
[11:49] and it's a little tough you know so
[11:50] we're trying to kind of get creative you
[11:52] know it's that unfortunately no it's we
[11:54] can get creative with our space but it's
[11:56] a lot better experience it's a lot
[11:58] better situation and also we can start
[11:59] to have that flexibility or in those
[12:01] common areas or he brings up a really
[12:03] good point about that kind of commentary
[12:06] one of our biggest users of that mr.
[12:07] Pittman why because he just has a
[12:09] classroom he wants to build a lot and
[12:11] have larger groups work and work on
[12:12] individual projects and that's that's
[12:14] the art of engagement that's the order
[12:16] know if you don't even student
[12:17] leadership is pieces but so as we kind
[12:20] of ran the water we're starting to see
[12:21] more anticipation those are the two
[12:31] words that you really where we have two
[12:33] themes that you really drove around if
[12:35] you think about what a new high school
[12:37] space could be be a little over the two
[12:39] words is usually pushes a lot of
[12:41] flexibility you know that it needs to be
[12:43] a flexible space it needs to be
[12:45] something we can use but it also needs
[12:47] to be a good balance you know this it's
[12:49] how can we make it so we have classroom
[12:52] time but then we also have a balance of
[12:53] really those open those large group
[12:55] things those are kind of the two big
[12:56] things that I pushed on the staff with a
[12:58] flexible space and into the balance just
[13:01] to make sure they kind of have a good
[13:02] frame of mind going into it when we
[13:04] start talking about I would be cool to
[13:06] add this kind of stuff and that's what
[13:10] I've been really pleased about is you
[13:12] know I think to the public it feels like
[13:14] nothing's been happening but there's
[13:15] been a lot of internal discussions we
[13:17] knew that any good discussion around
[13:19] what what the needs of our students are
[13:22] you know for facilities starts with
[13:24] students and starts with teachers and so
[13:27] Brian and really proud of the work he's
[13:28] done the last you know year he spent is
[13:31] having lots of one-on-one discussions
[13:32] small group discussions what are the
[13:34] needs you know what's the what's the
[13:36] strengths what the weaknesses are you
[13:38] know and what we need to approach in a
[13:39] lot of discussions with kids you know
[13:41] they know because they're the ones that
[13:42] live it every day you know and I know
[13:44] that ultimately not the ones that make
[13:45] the final decision you know the
[13:47] community makes the final decision on
[13:48] that we have to communicate that but it
[13:49] starts with it starts with our kids and
[13:51] our staff on you know what
[13:54] when we believe in with our vision
[13:55] what's our mission and then try
[13:57] facilitated discussions around that so
[13:59] that's when we give him a lot of credit
[14:01] for the work he's led on that yeah it
[14:23] was crazy like the new middle school is
[14:26] just like like we've all been talking
[14:27] about just so much more water like the
[14:29] doors moved inside his eye but you could
[14:32] like I mean well and what we really did
[14:35] our intimate gear which I don't know if
[14:37] you guys remember we focused a lot of
[14:38] that courtyard from like the cemetery
[14:41] project and so we did a lot more of like
[14:45] collaborating within groups so like my
[14:48] group we were like we did stuff with the
[14:50] cemetery and we like we're on the radio
[14:53] so that was like our thing in other
[14:55] groups we did the chapel and like that
[14:57] was an ongoing project process outside
[14:59] of our eighth grade year so like a lot
[15:02] of what we did was different that and
[15:04] the only reason we were able to do that
[15:06] was because of the way that the facility
[15:08] was set up like I would have been way
[15:09] harder a viewer to trying to try to do
[15:11] it in the old middle school eighth grade
[15:13] year so I think that the way that the
[15:15] numinous was set up that a lot of a lot
[15:17] more like group discussions and like
[15:20] just of open classrooms the ability that
[15:23] they are able to like open up all those
[15:25] doors and like we we've just get half
[15:27] the day to just work on our projects so
[15:29] it was a lot easier then I think it
[15:31] would have
[15:40] and I want to commend her staff you know
[15:42] I time in the campuses every day seeing
[15:45] a middle school how to utilize that you
[15:46] know I watch the fifth grade we were one
[15:49] of their final projects before
[15:50] Thanksgiving was a it was a
[15:51] project-based learning type of scenario
[15:54] I'd make a pumpkin farm station all the
[15:56] way throughout it well you have a
[15:57] student leadership the student agent it
[15:59] was it was so cool for some reason a
[16:01] couple kids have taken their shoes off
[16:02] during instruction time and they put the
[16:05] shoes back on I remember one of the kids
[16:06] goes you need to go wash your hands you
[16:07] should touch your shoes I mean it's
[16:09] doing leadership and engagement and you
[16:11] know they were building mock cities in
[16:13] math but you know that's not as possible
[16:16] in a really structured just for wall
[16:18] space because as I go in there using the
[16:20] caves that are using the meadows they're
[16:22] using the open space you know I they're
[16:24] making a plot map in Marshall County so
[16:28] that Boyd County you know in eighth
[16:31] grade right now and they're using all
[16:32] those spaces and that interdisciplinary
[16:34] piece and the collaboration comes from
[16:36] it I want to really credit high school
[16:38] staff and they're still doing that it's
[16:39] just a lot more difficult you know Rob
[16:41] head has got to take and do a lousy it
[16:44] was like Hawaiian it was a Hawaiian he
[16:45] was doing like a War Chant
[16:47] one day he's in the cafeteria and you
[16:50] know things going on and or you know and
[16:53] it's fine we have to be really you know
[16:56] cautious of not disrupt any classes or
[16:58] kissers have enough sectionals in the
[16:59] common space you know the main
[17:01] intersection the high school you know
[17:03] comic a face print I wear these and the
[17:06] sad part is we have so much square
[17:08] footage out there but it's just not
[17:10] utilized appropriately because you can
[17:11] there PI their circles and we're not
[17:13] able to appropriately you know utilize
[17:15] them if you think about the flow between
[17:18] at five five hundred circle or you know
[17:20] with the study hall space and it's a
[17:22] doorway we're trying to eat grass during
[17:25] passing time in a four minute passing
[17:26] time you know
[17:27] five hundred kids through a doorway that
[17:29] wine so there's just some things that
[17:31] don't make sense that you know the
[17:38] jury's got about ten minutes left what
[17:40] other questions do we have for him so we
[17:42] can make sure he gets his daughter to
[17:45] school on time guess that's why he's got
[17:47] to do such a big man yeah one of the
[17:57] things that I would recommend doing if
[17:59] you noticed in terms of this
[18:01] conversation is that I think it might
[18:04] sound simple but it takes organizational
[18:06] work has to get more children's and I
[18:09] went to tours a couple of different ways
[18:12] I would do two words that are general
[18:15] open to the public you know different
[18:18] times whether they be Saturday mornings
[18:20] or 30 nights so you're able to get
[18:24] people with different schedules in but I
[18:25] would also do very targeted invitation
[18:28] all right tours and select business
[18:34] leaders from parent groups maybe senior
[18:42] citizens
[18:42] you know just people did you know that
[18:46] you want as a board and have a really
[18:50] good dialogue list and be able to answer
[18:52] their questions and you know that they
[18:55] could help you also spread the word
[18:56] another person and you would make them
[19:00] feel engaged and important as well I
[19:02] invited now I think it's important I
[19:04] would have loved loved loved student
[19:07] engagement here this morning and I would
[19:10] encourage you to have students help to
[19:14] lead those towards
[19:16] there's ones that are living everyday
[19:18] and what's different about them
[19:20] listening these groups listening to
[19:22] students or were teachers is that
[19:25] there's just that it was advice makers
[19:27] will have by those teachers talk about
[19:30] it because they feel that there's that
[19:32] direct financial gain and windfall for
[19:36] teachers with a new building whereas the
[19:38] students
[19:39] it's just the you're just advancing
[19:42] their education and so there is a
[19:44] difference in how they listen to
[19:45] students as opposed to teachers and so I
[19:48] we have a few trusted students you know
[19:50] can be or not you're not in any way
[19:54] she'd would dictate what the students
[19:56] say we just know that they won't handle
[19:58] it well answer questions and hopefully
[20:01] it's work and of course that's not to
[20:02] say that you don't have buildings
[20:07] maintenance folks they're you know can
[20:09] call other leadership that are available
[20:12] to answer questions by with offline over
[20:15] those tours another thing that I would
[20:17] do is I would make sure they have one
[20:20] page fact sheets available very soon and
[20:25] events and you know this isn't about
[20:28] saying here's the Bovington for this is
[20:33] what we're going to do necessarily
[20:33] companies I think that it's just about
[20:36] here's where we're at this is this is
[20:39] where we're at these are some of the
[20:40] things that you know is if we need that
[20:43] we that we don't have show a couple
[20:45] pictures and an anecdote give some data
[20:48] and put it on one page for folks have to
[20:51] have that you know next to a program
[20:55] that concert or basketball we probably
[20:58] start doing to show it over because it's
[21:01] very clear than our survey and then
[21:03] we've discussed this before
[21:05] afterwards in wide gap in knowledge and
[21:09] understanding their needs so so we've
[21:13] got to start doing that if you want to
[21:15] continue your advanced constellation
[21:18] Jerry before you go just one question
[21:22] we've had a lot of the residents here in
[21:24] town we've lived in in Floyd County and
[21:26] in the district for a long time and a
[21:28] lot of them have gone to school there
[21:30] some of them have gone to school there
[21:31] and they have some strong opinions about
[21:33] you know how that facility fit them when
[21:35] they went through in their early 1970s
[21:37] do you have any maybe suggestions on how
[21:41] we can help to change that public
[21:45] opinion of it was good enough for me
[21:47] it's good enough for my kids or
[21:50] grandkids or nephews or nieces or
[21:52] whoever you want to put them all the
[21:55] most powerful our communication pieces
[21:57] that I've been a part of in recent years
[22:00] was what they students a senior in high
[22:03] school who unprompted do like an
[22:07] interview about sodas leads said exactly
[22:09] what it is you said and laid it out
[22:13] there in a way that was very much
[22:16] concise but informative by saying
[22:19] something along the lines of you know I
[22:21] hear that to my parents my grandparents
[22:22] all the time that you know that this is this was good enough for them
[22:28] that she'd be for me here's why it's not
[22:31] here's why learning has changed I don't
[22:35] work and this is what I need to be able
[22:42] to I you know someday be the head of my
[22:47] field whatever it is that I want to do
[22:49] and you have an advocate at the table
[22:51] right now somebody that I think very
[22:54] strong because what you're already doing
[22:56] is saying I've been in a space that
[23:00] allowed me that gave me that flexibility
[23:02] of learning and maybe feel comfortable
[23:04] and I've already made that transition
[23:05] into the space I didn't you know what it
[23:08] wasn't it wasn't conducive to good
[23:10] learning and so I would I would really
[23:13] recommend having some of those trustees
[23:16] to the leaders again out of trying some
[23:19] of this mess today I'm sorry it doesn't
[23:22] walk in sir
[23:24] and with levels that have become
[23:39] sawed-off ppl experience you know
[23:42] because they well they were here
[23:44] downtown and they went there and then
[23:47] they went into the circles limits right
[23:49] there all three different and they did that cemetery thing which I
[23:54] think that the parents really appreciate
[23:56] yeah I mean the community really
[23:58] appreciated they were really into it and
[24:01] way behind you they won't donated a lot
[24:03] of money you know and if we could just
[24:06] use that you know to a certain extent -
[24:11] and I think helping just like that with
[24:15] the students doom leaders say yeah it
[24:18] was good enough for you but this again
[24:20] you need because the truth is if you
[24:22] look at history there's a huge boom in
[24:25] school construction 1970s in 1962 the
[24:29] why is that I used to work baby boomers
[24:31] so the great generation raised their
[24:33] taxes to accommodate the baby boomers
[24:36] the fact I'm doing the research the
[24:37] history on this so the same thing
[24:40] happens you know a generation is having
[24:42] the high variance am willing to step up
[24:44] and do the right thing to do that I
[24:46] think you know that is part of our
[24:48] dialogue too is it's an investment and
[24:50] you know one thing I've you know we
[24:53] think that are proud of a Kennedy has
[24:56] supported our has the support of law
[24:59] enforcement took care of the jail did
[25:02] you know what now it's time to
[25:03] security prison-- herself my to take
[25:05] care of kids yeah no I'm gonna come up
[25:07] some point keep em up yeah if we do our
[25:09] job right the jail should be empty
[25:12] that's a bit of dream beginning for
[25:15] worse you're trying that's a part of our
[25:16] mission statement so society make the
[25:39] world a better place and it's making
[25:42] kids regular facility around they still
[25:44] do it but I think I didn't kill the
[25:46] Thursday company's help facility one
[25:54] additional thing about facility tours
[25:58] and again you know I apologize this is
[26:00] redundant if you want to talk about this
[26:02] but think about facility tours as a mini
[26:05] focus group or survey and so when you
[26:09] have people coming in the door you know
[26:11] right away on Saturday morning
[26:13] collaborate with them before they come
[26:16] them anyway what do you think you're
[26:18] gonna see today
[26:19] give me some initial ones the last time
[26:21] you were here didn't get some feedback
[26:23] from them
[26:24] even before they walk in and make sure
[26:26] and get there before they eat and we'll
[26:30] go let's get some comments and record
[26:31] those things that is that that's great
[26:34] information to have our messaging it's
[26:37] great information to have these are
[26:38] these little contacts for you then you
[26:41] don't know what you're gonna say maybe
[26:43] they'll come out and say well then it
[26:44] wasn't as bad as I thought well that
[26:46] still feedback if you want all of it
[26:49] and so make sure that you're evaluating
[26:51] that's true
[26:59] for 2020 we have two dates possible
[27:04] realistically for a bond vote correct
[27:07] mark Kensington Market will ever in your
[27:14] opinion every ready for March Thank You
[27:17] passage I know you wanted to tell us I
[27:20] can tell on your face I don't believe
[27:24] the you are I'm working the four other
[27:27] school districts right now ahead of
[27:29] March in or all we're already way down
[27:33] the road on requesting and the
[27:39] informational the informational pieces
[27:41] are out there we're already doing some
[27:44] video work and you know that the public
[27:47] needs by an armed robbery that you have
[27:49] because of the holiday bridge so I I
[27:52] would say I think if you use the time
[27:55] between you know wants to get back to
[27:58] break to before school ends to be able
[28:00] to do that heavy so could I ask you a
[28:38] couple questions you take two years of
[28:40] high school with perspective you know
[28:43] the area actually it was per diem rate
[28:54] when you brought that up instead
[28:57] just ask them I will tell you the
[29:01] biggest thing I've seen personally is
[29:03] there's definitely that you know a lot
[29:06] of time to do a high school total
[29:07] Britain in the middle school you know
[29:09] and you get that kind of like two
[29:11] different worlds
[29:15] what am i we bring in a conference I
[29:17] haven't seen nice what we get together
[29:18] once a month and so I was just given one
[29:21] of them as quick walk through and we
[29:23] walked through those doors in the middle
[29:24] school and it was like where am i this
[29:27] doesn't feel the same you know cuz you
[29:29] see both sides of it you know especially
[29:31] that one entryway Olsen it goes from
[29:33] brand new and modern to learner in high
[29:36] school is not something we've ever been
[29:38] intentional about to give you a bunch of
[29:40] personal feedback that's just better
[29:41] than my little observations but
[29:43] definitely something that I would argue
[29:47] that it doesn't help us when we're
[29:48] hiring no booth you to or us anything
[29:50] you know and here's what helps with
[29:52] hiring and you go in and they even when
[29:55] buildings full of people and even though
[29:56] it's not a good shade it's still warm
[29:58] and inviting we have a great family
[30:00] culture those types of things but what
[30:02] it really stinks for us is like in
[30:03] summer we're doing summer hires it's
[30:05] just an empty skeleton of the building
[30:06] and they don't have that wanted I can
[30:09] tell you we had somebody that we were
[30:10] looking at trying to hire for position
[30:12] here last year I wanted his passion was
[30:14] training conditioning and we ended up he
[30:17] an offer that I'm pretty sure we had
[30:20] talked about got some feedback when he
[30:21] saw our waiting room that was I can't
[30:23] believe that they came over and he had
[30:25] an opportunity of Minnesota of a much
[30:27] better facility he loved her family with
[30:29] her cultures at first sight but like I
[30:31] can't build a really strong straight
[30:33] munition prog-rock its kind of going in
[30:49] the right direction if on these tours
[30:53] people could see the difference what has
[30:56] happened to make that facility I do I
[31:02] mean he's talking more about what like
[31:04] they did in the shop area with machinery
[31:08] I'm guessing because I mean like the
[31:10] structure of it hasn't changed at all I
[31:11] mean they're changing like misters
[31:13] Persians yeah God was still Umbreon and
[31:16] the kids and rest version and Jessie why
[31:19] are the things that they've done
[31:20] you know they've just done it with sheer
[31:22] willpower you know they're we got that
[31:24] grant from air gas and you know thank
[31:26] Jerry he helped out with operations
[31:28] budget at two but they built by
[31:30] themselves to be welding loose we
[31:31] repainted we took all that old a
[31:34] antiquate machinery out sold at an
[31:36] auction you know we're out in the Olson
[31:37] had his classroom now they're making mad
[31:39] to a new woodshop space and then the
[31:42] renovate a little shops takes in what we
[31:43] call makerspace it's going to have a
[31:44] flexible space where they can do a lot
[31:46] of different things and Jim and Brett
[31:49] and Jesse have been really clear they
[31:52] need talking with Jimmie Johnson to
[31:53] they're actually asking to not do a lot
[31:55] of renovations down their religious
[31:57] paint
[31:58] new doors the doors are all shot those
[32:00] types of things because they realize if
[32:02] they're innovative and elsewhere image
[32:03] they make huge amount of square footage
[32:05] down there and they also realize the
[32:07] shops because it does not be pretty
[32:08] yeah and so and then doing a lot of the
[32:10] work themselves but they they both are
[32:12] in classroom out there I mean that's how
[32:14] cools in the stuff that's I noticed
[32:15] we're doing dead in the big you know
[32:22] attracted stuff all that is that he's
[32:25] got places I think it looks kind of
[32:27] messy but there's a place over here for
[32:29] this to happen and it's a place that
[32:31] we're going to have to happen it I guess
[32:33] that makes it a flexible space right and
[32:39] I know like he has like obviously
[32:41] classes so I he has his own section in
[32:44] the corner actually reserved for class
[32:46] that the students have a place to sit
[32:48] and a desk it's a classroom setting in a
[32:52] shop yeah he will it's more than happy
[32:56] to are you around there because when I
[33:00] was running if something had ever been
[33:06] happenin
[33:07] this is what Justin I got coffee - again
[33:10] we thought the survey results would be
[33:11] higher on the understanding where we
[33:13] were and we also didn't waste people's
[33:14] time that having much Town Hall and
[33:16] meetings you know that had really been
[33:18] done back then you know 14 15 you're on
[33:20] the middle school phase - but something
[33:22] happened is that we we become a gym and
[33:25] all our foot traffic on the big events
[33:28] you know whether it's a huge concert a
[33:30] basketball game volleyball wrestling
[33:31] tournament are going there we don't host
[33:34] much annual high school thinking about
[33:36] that yeah and all the LR fine arts
[33:38] performing arts Kobe adores brands and
[33:40] that's helped us and people understand
[33:42] there's a need there for an auditorium
[33:44] but really our foot traffic in terms of
[33:47] visitor
[33:47] like that absolutely increase so that I
[33:49] think Justin I'm willing to talk with
[33:51] Jerry Gallagher has contributed to the
[33:53] loss of important people and loss of
[33:56] understanding of the knee of high school
[33:57] and when their kids aren't at that level
[33:59] they don't pay attention know it's three
[34:01] years their kids to it okay now they're
[34:04] nice well you can walk in to come a gym
[34:06] and go oh the whole five Tom campuses
[34:09] like this you know you don't realize it
[34:11] it's night and day when you cross that
[34:12] threshold right but I'm really excited
[34:19] to about and you know we're talking
[34:22] about in a career alignment and the work
[34:24] we're doing with with teaching and
[34:26] learning high school and I think this is
[34:28] gonna be product I walk to that the
[34:30] space will have to again being preceded
[34:32] do it who are we what we believe in and
[34:34] then doesn't facilities matter side
[34:36] because I can call my name but I can
[34:38] tell you a couple of facilities about
[34:39] the last 10 years that they're beautiful
[34:41] but it might as well up in 1965 again
[34:43] they've built what I call an Eisenhower
[34:45] school you know you know flat you know
[34:48] kind of wings and ponds and things like
[34:49] that and just straight classrooms right
[34:51] the bathrooms are here and Locker base
[34:52] and things like that like oh my gosh she
[34:54] knows so being innovative to figuring
[34:57] out what our kids need over the next 20
[34:59] 50 years that's part of the process but
[35:02] that's why we have kids and staff trying
[35:04] to visionary another your show some of
[35:07] those buildings in the fall of 13 yeah
[35:15] but then you see some that are red new
[35:17] and nice but they were built in 1960
[35:20] [Music]
[35:24] Washington is new you know because I
[35:26] didn't ornate a lot of things changed
[35:29] and they had an open classroom so that
[35:37] was kind of back then
[35:38] and then they wanted to put in a minute
[35:41] because it was just chaotic
[35:43] I guess the children you know happy here
[35:47] even if it's a big flat building it
[35:51] doesn't have to have and what's what's
[35:54] funny about Washington is in that Dennis
[35:57] one of the things and totally concept
[35:58] was so big and seventies I'm a history
[36:00] geek like what kind of history of it
[36:02] however you seen it each web back that
[36:05] way not all the way it like just free
[36:07] makes children like but but generations
[36:14] you know it is web back the other way
[36:17] you know it's not completed for range
[36:18] but it can't be classrooms any you know
[36:20] like with brian says flexible right
[36:22] that's the middle schools model that
[36:23] Washington really is too because even
[36:26] though there's classrooms there's a lot
[36:28] of open flexible space you know if you
[36:31] go through the early childhood centers
[36:32] there's two we called busy be rooms
[36:34] where kids can come in the middle and
[36:35] work and collaborate there's a lot of
[36:37] that space to do that and they use those
[36:39] you know really really well
[36:41] and so it's funny in Washington even
[36:43] though it you know kind of come back a
[36:44] little bit to the center it's still much
[36:46] more of an open concept you know the
[36:48] doctor just straight corridors hallways
[36:50] if people asked it's kind of odd you
[36:52] have to walk through the media center to
[36:54] get to the crash and you're like we
[36:55] thought about that's beautiful and you
[36:57] know you should have walk library take
[36:59] you to the classrooms I don't know if
[37:02] this
[37:03] to learn conversation but we had some
[37:07] friends over a couple nights culpable
[37:08] community leaders wanting to know a
[37:11] little bit more about the plans and the
[37:15] first thing he said was I couldn't get
[37:19] those test scores up we just had a
[37:23] meeting about that very thing that
[37:25] that's not the most importantly and then
[37:27] he also brought up wouldn't it be
[37:30] interesting to know where these kids are
[37:31] in five or ten years which we also
[37:33] talked about at that meeting and the
[37:37] school that where he grew up in is that
[37:38] a lot of things without reach to get
[37:41] successful people contributing in a big
[37:46] way and so that's that's a couple over
[37:51] then we're this will come to board you
[37:54] know we're looking at how can we engage
[37:57] our community to know if we're healthy
[37:59] and I didn't know thank you to a couple
[38:01] of board member set on a focus group for
[38:02] doing that we'll have fun at work but
[38:04] you know I know that's a conversation
[38:05] you know our facilities time to test
[38:08] scores if you know the types of things
[38:09] and what I would say is the on test
[38:12] scores it's time that we healthy but
[38:14] health is more than just test scores you
[38:15] know those types of things and if we do
[38:17] have some gaps tended to test scores we
[38:19] realize that we will work out of that
[38:20] too but that being said we know there's
[38:23] other majors and at the end of the day I
[38:25] wouldn't care as much about test scores
[38:27] if I know how a kids doing one five and
[38:29] ten years after high school and that's
[38:31] we're actually gonna go after that
[38:32] pretty hard to figure that out and as
[38:34] well and I know a lot of topic of this
[38:36] conversation but but that means said -
[38:38] we do know that you know that that type
[38:43] of learning is really
[38:49] well I'm sure it's really off topic in
[38:52] the fact that kind of a post together
[38:54] with what I improve those just worse we
[38:56] need to have facilities that are viable
[39:00] for the learning that kids need to have
[39:03] so then we call them out comes with one
[39:04] improve outcomes now my test scores but
[39:07] just the quality of life and maybe we
[39:09] want to make facilities that help
[39:11] nurture and grow that we may want to
[39:14] make them employable
[39:15] all right gets collaboration is what
[39:17] have that top things for high test
[39:20] scores are just one measure how
[39:22] successful we are imitation well I
[39:27] remember you know kids have chest aches
[39:29] I'd be like crazy anymore that was a
[39:31] long way adults Tolu depression did you
[39:34] know all of that right Jim I can't
[39:37] believe how many accommodation letters
[39:40] that I have to write well we know you
[39:42] think about that I don't know the single
[39:44] employer town on the resume or
[39:46] application is going to ask you for your
[39:47] standardized test scores at school right
[39:49] and that's why we come back to we're
[39:51] still new that's worth these essential
[39:52] competencies you know communication
[39:54] empathy critical thinking the learners
[39:58] mindset those types of things those are
[39:59] the things are plurally cuss words
[40:02] letting into that as well and our
[40:05] facilities you know allowing for those essential competencies you know as
[40:10] we think about that you know and where
[40:14] that goes so ya know it's all tied
[40:16] together for sure but that's why as a
[40:18] community we're figuring out what are
[40:19] the metrics that matter most our
[40:21] community on our school are healthy and
[40:23] we'll major success by that that she
[40:27] that he said we should have a one-page
[40:29] handout when people cut some of the
[40:32] things that like Jerry Mitchell talked
[40:34] about that I was totally not aware of I
[40:38] think definitely should be included they
[40:41] might not see ya yeah Jerry you want to
[40:48] talk about talk about one of the biggest
[40:49] needs you know in your of your mind
[40:51] especially just for the millions and
[40:52] nuts and bolts
[40:53] well biggest needs of course is HVAC all
[40:56] the air handlers on the north end of the
[40:58] building are all in the growth five out
[41:00] of six or operating one week to skip
[41:03] parts out of air conditioning finally
[41:06] got running in the library and stuff
[41:08] towards the end of the summer of it
[41:09] hopefully starts back up this next
[41:11] summer
[41:13] gotta your handlers in the 600 500
[41:15] circle everything is you know near an
[41:18] end alike so there's a lot of big
[41:20] decisions to me you know if we can pass
[41:23] a bond and hopefully go to a geothermal
[41:26] system or or if we stay with a pack or
[41:28] whatever we do were great if we don't go
[41:32] to that and of course we're gonna have a
[41:34] lot of HVAC electricals needs and things
[41:38] that need to be done also got a lot of
[41:42] underground conduit with electrical
[41:44] that's starting to collapse we've had
[41:47] runs just a surface mount electrical
[41:49] link some of the classrooms operable
[41:51] certain heavy 600 struggle right now
[41:55] we've had it in the gym for a while a
[41:58] lot of the outlets underneath the stage
[42:01] that's there are not impossible anymore
[42:04] and we're getting more and more
[42:07] now 34 classrooms go down and that's
[42:10] because one claps can't do it then it
[42:11] pops breakers try to trace it you can't
[42:14] pull the water back out because it can't
[42:15] do its collapse so those are the issues
[42:18] were running into I guess those are the
[42:21] biggest needs so anyway I don't mind we
[42:24] got we do have a session that we do an
[42:27] annual asbestos update all their floor
[42:30] tile and anything that's a 9x9 floor
[42:34] tile and you walk around there's always
[42:35] best system some of the the ceilings in
[42:40] the circles are asbestos so you're
[42:42] talking to health well-being and you see
[42:45] that some of the tiles starting to break
[42:47] up and we got to staff they're certified
[42:49] so we can do a certain amount of area
[42:51] that gets very big that we have to hire
[42:52] it down but things like talk about you
[42:55] know your security expert I know you
[42:57] have your certifications that's what's
[42:58] your what your take on security in terms
[43:01] of the facility be brutally honest yeah
[43:05] it's for me all right I could go in that
[43:08] building
[43:09] any place if I wanted to say I wanted to
[43:11] dress up in me and when I worked
[43:13] healthcare I got certified sent out to
[43:15] the Michigan to be certified to do
[43:17] things like that and you could get into
[43:20] that building many many ways and just go
[43:23] on a rampage if you wanted to windows
[43:26] being open because of the heat spring
[43:28] fall doors there proper doors open it
[43:33] stylish operators because you know the
[43:36] environment our main entrance yeah we
[43:40] got the vestibule where you come in out
[43:41] of the weather to do it but you see the
[43:44] distance from the front entrance to
[43:46] where the front receptionist sit once
[43:49] you bust them in there's no guarantee
[43:51] they're going to come to the that window
[43:53] they could just go right in the building
[43:54] and that's the same way in all three of
[43:56] the buildings we're talking about high
[43:58] school Lincoln and Washington middle
[44:01] school has a pic as a good sign except
[44:03] you can come into that vestibule you
[44:05] buzz them into the office then you can
[44:07] talk in the office before you go out
[44:08] into the learning areas so yes security fix is not good there could be
[44:16] many things and you know Jerry hit out a
[44:18] little bit too there's there's certain
[44:21] classrooms in the in the circles and the
[44:23] reason why you could have so many feet
[44:25] between emergency exits the only way you
[44:28] can do that in a circle you got to have
[44:30] an emergency exit through a classroom so
[44:33] one of them that's a big one is where
[44:37] the I guess what's the proper word for
[44:41] where we cook and everything else
[44:43] family consumer so there we go family
[44:45] consumer science I already I go back
[44:47] component that was in school so that
[44:49] sort of eat just been right there a
[44:51] family consumer science there's an
[44:53] emergency exit in that room
[44:57] thing they cook they have food in there
[44:59] and all that that door to hallway has to
[45:01] stay online 24/7 because you have to
[45:04] have an emergency exit through that room
[45:06] to go outside if there was a fire at the
[45:08] interests that are that circle you have
[45:11] to be able to get out those other exits
[45:13] so that's what those exits are for we
[45:15] have to have some feet between exits
[45:17] same thing as fire extinguisher and
[45:19] stuff like that and I also hear about
[45:21] security and safety and the circles you
[45:23] know didn't think much of it when I went
[45:26] to school there
[45:27] but now when you're walking around it
[45:28] you can see what 10 feet in front of you know you're not sure what's
[45:32] happening yeah there's there's many
[45:42] things it's definitely a building that's
[45:44] and served its purpose but it's also
[45:47] time that we need to do some things or
[45:50] do some of these to it we know how many
[45:53] times would you say yours best friends
[45:55] you know trying to track down pop
[45:58] breakers scavenge parts from other air
[46:01] handlers to fix one to make it work on the air-conditioning to get it
[46:05] going you know do routine maintenance
[46:08] that everything's renewer you could
[46:10] focus on other things let's put this way
[46:12] a brandy cakes we hired year and a half
[46:14] ago he said our HVAC specialist way and
[46:17] if we didn't have him I could say we'd
[46:20] probably be in more trouble it was a
[46:21] great hire the guy's a brain at this um
[46:24] he spends probably 90% of his time
[46:27] between the high school and sometimes up
[46:31] Washington more more just to try to keep
[46:33] those operating very little time in the
[46:36] middle school we shouldn't spend a lot
[46:38] of time we need to go or just ignore but
[46:40] still it's pushing that four to five
[46:42] year mark where you're going to have
[46:44] things but they're the things that
[46:46] happen there everything tells you right
[46:48] away what's wrong with it you don't have
[46:50] to go search for it breakers are on work
[46:52] in the high school we've had an ADD
[46:55] breakers and had electrical outlets and
[46:58] switches for lights you've got so many
[47:01] added devices that also million that
[47:05] sort of track and it just even find it
[47:07] so over the years that of course happens
[47:09] we just had to do I forgot about this -
[47:12] we just had this play a little over
[47:13] 10,000 down in the shop there because of
[47:16] an old breaker panel going down so we
[47:19] had to redo an ad for a new breaker
[47:21] panel
[47:22] typing overhead because there's no fix
[47:25] yet so you know those are the things are
[47:27] starting to happen 10,000 here doesn't
[47:29] sound like maybe that's not a lot you do
[47:31] 10,000 in that project a month later he
[47:34] might do it 10,000 and another project
[47:36] over the years that adds up so brandon
[47:40] spends a lot of time in fact he texted
[47:43] me about three times already just in
[47:44] this because we're having a couple of
[47:46] issues that he's working on right now
[47:47] he's constantly just working on issues
[47:51] instead of doing the PM's that we should
[47:53] do what you prevented maintenance and
[47:54] we're being on preventative maintenance
[47:56] program better but you know when you're
[47:58] spending your whole time preparing
[48:00] instead of doing that they're not being
[48:02] proactive or being reactive I don't want
[48:04] to let it be proactive how about is
[48:07] there a pretty frequent occurrence for
[48:09] you to tell you know teachers day well
[48:13] I'm sorry but this outlet or this way or
[48:15] this area isn't available for you
[48:17] because we can't we're working on
[48:19] tracking it down you know
[48:20] you maybe take a week or four days to
[48:22] figure out what issues before you can
[48:24] bring it back for them to us yeah that's
[48:26] got to be quite often other things that
[48:28] happen and this one was in the 600
[48:31] circle about a year ago with a
[48:33] condensate line come apart in a crawl
[48:37] space says probably about twice as wide
[48:39] as this table and it's about three foot
[48:42] tall Britain's laying on his back on a
[48:45] creeper that you know usually used for
[48:47] many vehicles and stuff and pushing this
[48:50] way probably about 300 feet to get back
[48:52] in there so we're hanging down on the
[48:54] tools and parts doing an event that's
[48:57] about six inches wide by about two foot
[48:59] longer so he's laying on the back down
[49:01] in there so also what is that is a
[49:03] confined space so you've got a lot of
[49:05] other things to do so to fix that
[49:07] project we have that area down for about
[49:09] a week week and a half and that's right
[49:12] in the middle of a classroom setting so
[49:14] those things are starting to happen more
[49:16] and more and help me discover that all
[49:17] some steam just starts rolling into that classroom and goes out into the
[49:23] circle so that's how you discovered
[49:25] because you have no other way to know
[49:27] that that's gonna happen so and that's
[49:29] something that you don't play on a
[49:31] creeper and go all the way around the
[49:32] insides of those circles on a regular
[49:34] basis just even see what the equipment
[49:35] looks like when you talk about getting
[49:37] parts the new scheme lines in a circle
[49:39] you need something like a 17 degree
[49:42] angle it will steam under what you have
[49:45] 90 degree or 35 degree angles and all
[49:47] sudden we're having to have custom parts
[49:49] made and this isn't challenging and
[49:51] that's that's what made that project
[49:52] take so long we actually thought we had
[49:54] fix one time we order some parts online
[49:57] through Grainger even bind them and it
[50:00] has to have a flexible fitting well you
[50:03] kind of circle in about every five feet
[50:06] is trying to turn and all that of course
[50:08] when you make it or handle it all along
[50:10] as you're putting it in on a circle with
[50:13] if you're trying to fix it
[50:14] it'll make those bends for you that need
[50:16] to be the exact degrees that we mean so
[50:19] fixed it once it wasn't ten minutes and
[50:22] it's back apart the rumors filling back
[50:23] up again we start all over so yeah
[50:26] that's the same thing with them okay
[50:28] thanks for that no not for a low
[50:33] pressure steam line they would notice
[50:36] this in Iowa but I've heard stories you
[50:38] know Brian is your top story to hear
[50:39] from some people in the back I'm circle
[50:41] to the bellman it was kind of new cool
[50:43] thing people came and visited and saw
[50:45] that and in every school like all this
[50:47] so neat which'll notices nobody else
[50:50] built them I can't find another set of
[50:52] circles in Iowa that never built and I
[50:55] think that just shows the limitations
[50:56] that they have you know that's that's
[50:58] the struggle we would have you wud right
[51:00] circle order yet to start fresh with the
[51:04] circles you know and I think that's part
[51:06] of the challenge but is he's kind of
[51:07] sharing you know the safety security
[51:08] issues on top of that but then just that
[51:11] constant maintain your life you have you
[51:13] talked to architects and we talked to
[51:15] Estes just big very because when you
[51:17] have to cut classrooms into pies the
[51:20] ineffective use of square footage you
[51:22] know if you if you look at if you were
[51:25] to look at our square footage per
[51:26] student versus some other school in this
[51:28] rings it's pretty high for the high
[51:29] school but I don't think you asked a lot
[51:32] of our staff they would say it's all
[51:33] about we feel like it's only two tons of
[51:35] space you know to talk about the cloud
[51:37] space it's because the space is being
[51:38] utilized in February it's won a
[51:40] challenge
[51:44] I wonder Jerry's time I know he's super
[51:46] busy you guys have anything also asked
[51:47] you know just a couple quick things you
[51:49] were just a little over six years so if
[51:55] I take the other side of the coin that I
[51:58] know will pop up why are we in such a
[52:07] tough shape now why isn't the district
[52:09] spend any money over the last 50 years
[52:11] to maintain that darn build-up Jerry we
[52:15] have because you know money absolutely
[52:17] and we have been um you know you can't
[52:21] get parts on equipment forever
[52:23] eventually eventually those two parts
[52:26] are obsolete you either have to retrofit
[52:28] which we started doing in things like
[52:31] that so the the sixth air handler that I
[52:35] was talking about on the roof of of the
[52:37] north end of the high school that one we
[52:41] tap off of the other five to fill in
[52:44] some areas so of course then instead of
[52:46] buying or trying to retrofit parts and
[52:48] when you retrofit it's not exactly the
[52:51] same of course as everyone knows you're
[52:52] trying to retrofit anything so then you
[52:54] take parts off the one you can take down
[52:56] and do it so in them it has been
[52:57] maintained
[52:58] I think there's been sort of processing
[53:01] put in place to keep maintaining before
[53:03] and after I've been here as you know
[53:07] it's not going to last forever you're
[53:09] not gonna be able to get the parts to
[53:10] make them last forever so in part of
[53:14] night
[53:15] some of those types of questions the
[53:18] district isn't unlike anybody or
[53:21] anything else we have X amount of funny
[53:25] weather no matter what Thunder comes
[53:28] from have all of Local Option Sales Tax
[53:31] etc etc we've spent almost all of our
[53:37] money that we've received over the last
[53:39] 20-30 years with those funds on repairs
[53:44] maintenance improvements additions to
[53:47] Lincoln geothermal to Washington the new
[53:51] dental school transportation center etc
[53:54] but again had been talking about for 30
[53:57] plus years where you work down to at
[53:59] before we put the dual enough but
[54:03] buildings are only only last X amount of
[54:09] time you let your row replace it needs
[54:11] to be replaced every so often
[54:14] een needs to be replaced that
[54:19] air-conditioning on top of the new
[54:22] addition 270 addition make the north
[54:24] the high school needs to be replaced and
[54:27] that we've spent the district over the
[54:30] years has spent everything on the loser
[54:34] there hasn't been enough money to
[54:36] completely can't buy new at the the high
[54:40] school even the newer to replace the air
[54:43] conditioning units of the north end of
[54:45] the - great yeah
[54:48] a perfect example of him Mike and Terry
[54:52] and I met yesterday we're going out five
[54:54] years so you've got to pick and choose
[54:56] it because you're exactly right you
[54:58] don't have unlimited funds that you can
[55:00] just do everything all at once you've
[55:02] got a pick each year and pick your
[55:04] product if you're anybody to do an
[55:07] example of when put them on top
[55:08] mother-in-law's had a furnace in her
[55:10] house for probably 20 years
[55:13] she just had put Brandon furnace and air
[55:15] conditioner because it's there so you
[55:18] can't fix them anymore you know and
[55:20] that's the point we do we've done what
[55:22] we can on the equipment that we have in
[55:24] the high school by maintaining it
[55:26] upgrading and things like that the
[55:30] middle school we can see everything of
[55:32] the operations the middle school and
[55:34] like I said earlier when something goes
[55:36] down at the middle school we know
[55:38] exactly where it's at what it is and all
[55:40] that because of all the technology that
[55:43] we have that we can track everything at
[55:45] the high school and something goes down
[55:46] there's not that technology there's
[55:48] those upgrades to that point then you
[55:51] have to go troubleshooting and and spend
[55:53] a lot of time to find it so yeah so
[55:56] there's there's a lot of a difference
[55:57] that's going to be cleared even
[55:58] internally our discussion has never been
[56:00] around building a new high school it's
[56:02] to renovate the car line right you know
[56:04] and so because there's not a lot of
[56:06] great things that happened the CP space
[56:07] you've got a lot of great things have
[56:09] happened you know for a lot walling for
[56:11] example you know the 2012 board and
[56:14] administration have the new science
[56:16] wings and then into being a part of plan
[56:18] would be to lay those let me touch their
[56:20] great shape they're the Cadillac science
[56:22] terms are beautiful the dilemma that
[56:25] this board will face the communal faces
[56:27] do you have eight circles you have the
[56:29] nicest circles in Iowa you know and I'd
[56:33] be curious with the communities just you
[56:34] know as I go around and you might want
[56:37] to what conversations which do you guys
[56:38] know like over 150 of those now I'm not
[56:40] heard anybody too sentimental about
[56:42] circles you know because they realized
[56:44] that just they come the end of life and
[56:46] so because of that that's what makes
[56:48] this renovation a possible renovation a
[56:49] little more tricky is that would be city
[56:51] construction - to replace that and hey
[56:53] somebody had a board you know here's
[56:55] going to sign out circles if they were
[56:56] squares you'd be able easier to renovate
[56:58] those types of things but I think you
[57:01] know what I really credit you know
[57:02] Jerry's you know office and his
[57:03] apartment because they do a masterful
[57:05] job there their idea preventive
[57:06] maintenance things on the middle school
[57:07] you know four or five years there's
[57:09] already things that we're doing but keep
[57:10] it good shape and keep it there and you
[57:13] know but there's a place where things
[57:15] just you know we can like you said you
[57:17] like yeah and then my point too is the
[57:21] end of life has come on a lot of stuff
[57:23] up at the high school even if we don't
[57:27] take the circles into account but that's
[57:29] going to take more money to replace and
[57:35] upgrade
[57:37] than what we the district has access to
[57:40] at the current point which is why we
[57:43] talk about upon the Amish you how old
[57:46] are the healing systems for them so
[57:50] they're from the early nineteen sixties
[57:51] correct so you know when we had our
[57:53] assessment they put together a
[57:56] construction cost to replace those for
[57:59] the domestic pipe in which I assume this
[58:01] part that steam it kind of talked about
[58:02] like Franklin was underneath the circles
[58:05] and then new HVAC system which has about
[58:08] a a ten point three million dollar costs
[58:11] associated with it what's your annual
[58:13] maintenance operating budget
[58:26] and Jerry spends all that no no what is it he gets about yes yes his
[58:41] annual budget is like so he'd have to
[58:48] save every dollar he was allocated for
[58:50] more than ten years to be able to find
[58:53] it to replace just those two items which
[58:55] means no roofs or anything everywhere
[58:57] God's good stuff not no painting and or
[59:01] an electrical nothing else we're done
[59:03] for ten years correct which is that
[59:05] pretty significant amount or we could
[59:08] borrow the money and nothing gets done
[59:09] for 30
[59:10] we're paying interest or for teachers so
[59:14] I mean these are these are big expenses
[59:15] that the district just doesn't have
[59:17] operating capital to the rare
[59:19] the only other you do is yeah and that's
[59:22] one point yeah that that's why we're at
[59:24] the point of potentially asking the
[59:29] public well I ain't even flipped it to
[59:32] you of that it's not that we don't take
[59:33] care of stuff is that we you know we
[59:36] really do I mean for example we're
[59:38] putting in new football filled legs as
[59:40] far as I can tell those are original to
[59:42] tie the football field so going back to
[59:43] I don't know I checked with Jeff says he
[59:45] could probably tell us exactly but I'm
[59:47] gonna assume probably at least the late
[59:48] sixties early seventies there's nobody
[59:50] able with polls and eight light
[59:51] standards anymore and we have made those
[59:53] work for all these years
[59:55] don't need Kevin that's why I'm assuming
[59:58] we've kept those in good repair we've
[1:00:00] done that you know it's just now that
[1:00:02] we're looking at going oh we should
[1:00:04] replace us because we have some issues
[1:00:05] with the pole being unsafe and then
[1:00:07] quite honestly were throwing lamps all
[1:00:08] the time so they've gotta go up on the
[1:00:10] cabinet or casanova scissor lift to
[1:00:13] replace them and then just you look at
[1:00:15] your arm line cost/benefit right this is
[1:00:17] not worth our time and effort to do that
[1:00:18] but i would tell you a lot of districts
[1:00:21] would replace those lights probably 20
[1:00:22] years ago so I would credit our
[1:00:25] community over a rise we were it's a
[1:00:29] it's been approval you know over the
[1:00:31] years the the boards here have been
[1:00:33] through ville and have gotten the
[1:00:34] money's worth I would credit you know
[1:00:36] another place where we've been frugal is
[1:00:38] we agent buses a lot
[1:00:42] we'd your buses a lot longer than a lot
[1:00:44] of districts because we invested the
[1:00:45] money in hiring and outs and kanuk and
[1:00:47] Carl our Kurt Kurt does I'm just this
[1:00:51] kids giving me her does an amazing job
[1:00:53] because we have some buses that we keep
[1:00:56] in good repair and we passed a state
[1:00:58] trooper inspection with the de here with
[1:00:59] flying colors with Boston Center
[1:01:01] sometimes pushing 20 years old we get
[1:01:03] our money's worth because we invested in
[1:01:05] preventive maintenance
[1:01:06] the right things I take a lot of pride
[1:01:08] in our staff really underlings are clear
[1:01:10] men doing the right thing so Jerry
[1:01:16] what's so life expectancy you that mean
[1:01:19] what's most appropriate of the new
[1:01:23] middle school what's its life expectancy
[1:01:25] for a tracking system just in general we
[1:01:29] get stuck to major pairs
[1:01:31] you know I the building in general I
[1:01:36] guess I'm not sure how you come up with
[1:01:38] really what if you preventive
[1:01:41] maintenance do all your peons and try
[1:01:42] keep everything up and running there's
[1:01:44] no reason we shouldn't have dirty that
[1:01:45] are plushy or some on everything that's
[1:01:48] the main workings of that facility you
[1:01:51] know you're gonna definitely have a lot
[1:01:53] of general upkeep for it and when you
[1:01:56] have a lot of windows and things like
[1:01:58] that
[1:01:58] there's probably increased upkeep just
[1:02:01] because of seven there's no reason that
[1:02:07] facility can get away without having
[1:02:10] some major things done to it for 30
[1:02:12] years
[1:02:17] I know this might not be like a security
[1:02:19] issue but like I know it's something
[1:02:21] that like there's just something so
[1:02:23] simple I just like the intercoms not
[1:02:24] working but like we can't even like the
[1:02:27] office can't convey a message did like
[1:02:29] the teachers and then hope like hope
[1:02:32] does not but like if we made your
[1:02:33] message was needed to be like announced
[1:02:36] it week it's muffled like I don't know
[1:02:39] if it's like the speakers or wider or
[1:02:41] that's the you know still on was like
[1:02:43] that we run into so for example what
[1:02:46] things I hate one of my pet peeves is
[1:02:48] steel bells I think it just tastes like
[1:02:50] the Ferris Bueller's Day Off you know
[1:02:51] there's no reasonably the 2000 that we
[1:02:53] can you know have a like Tron of bells
[1:02:55] which we do it all of our campuses
[1:02:57] except for high school and our high
[1:02:59] school is so old that it still has
[1:03:00] clocks at literally bugs right and
[1:03:03] that's the Bell which is this wow that's really there's still Bell Barrett
[1:03:06] we're in the middle school boys high
[1:03:08] school and we can't take that out
[1:03:10] because it's only belts down there now
[1:03:13] the problem is an engineer you can talk
[1:03:15] more about that stress to put into the
[1:03:16] whole system and we have struggling in
[1:03:18] asbestos and you want to start going to
[1:03:20] ceiling its and doing some of the things
[1:03:21] and then you know some of those repairs
[1:03:23] that they see it like a simple thing is
[1:03:25] way more complex I getting out it's to
[1:03:27] the attorney but you want to speak to
[1:03:29] that just like the high cost of some of
[1:03:30] those things that are just we don't
[1:03:32] realize right because you know speaker
[1:03:35] so we're doing a bail system in one in
[1:03:37] Washington Lincoln that's all through
[1:03:39] computer controlled and everything so
[1:03:41] it's more like what Mike's talking about
[1:03:43] modernizing it to do that at the high
[1:03:45] school at the Washington Lincoln let's
[1:03:47] back up with Washington Lincoln it's
[1:03:49] pretty easy to do because of
[1:03:51] the way their high school the speakers
[1:03:55] are all wearing out so to do that
[1:03:56] project there then you are gonna pull a
[1:03:59] new wire everywhere in your home what
[1:04:00] didn't I like so it's not just uh ten to fifteen thousand dollar project
[1:04:06] it's probably push more like a fifty
[1:04:08] sixty thousand pilot project to do all
[1:04:10] those workings inner workings of it so
[1:04:12] things like that multiply when you have
[1:04:15] quite a bit of asbestos in the ceiling
[1:04:18] and the circles have all of that if you
[1:04:20] want in this in this circles look at the
[1:04:23] ceilings it's all that really looks like
[1:04:24] spackling the stuff that's a spring on
[1:04:27] this bestest back from the sixteen so if
[1:04:29] you want to put it like new lighting you know they be lightly because because
[1:04:38] of that anytime even even Seward
[1:05:08] remember blinds column with all the
[1:05:10] pathogen bath the north bathrooms which
[1:05:13] are we call the north bathrooms that are
[1:05:15] just to the north of the five hundred
[1:05:17] circle we had those two bathrooms shut
[1:05:19] down last last week for probably almost
[1:05:22] the entire week we had backup and stuff
[1:05:26] coming in those bathrooms and worked and worked on trying to get them
[1:05:30] out and finally called in
[1:05:33] exterior contractor he came in and
[1:05:35] worked and worked worked and we find out
[1:05:37] that was working and not for any student
[1:05:39] misbehavior like when something got
[1:05:40] flushed out just normal wear and tear
[1:05:42] and usage and just it just catches up
[1:05:44] you know just think they clog after a
[1:05:46] while in the thing did you say well that
[1:05:49] happens anywhere the reason that is
[1:05:52] lying turn is because what they what
[1:05:55] they do now so and there were the old
[1:05:57] cast lines and everything else they're
[1:05:59] not PVC and larger and everything else
[1:06:01] for a larger facility so thank you for
[1:06:04] built different 60s than they are now
[1:06:07] and they can crack in a row we do have
[1:06:10] that literally yeah there's always a
[1:06:13] concern we've already added a tank out
[1:06:16] in that in the lawn from we did that
[1:06:19] about a half ago because of the way the
[1:06:22] clay traps were designed in the art art
[1:06:24] area we kind of constantly had clay
[1:06:27] clogging up the drains so we'd have two
[1:06:29] issues on the far north in finally ended
[1:06:31] up with a fifteen thousand dollar
[1:06:33] project about two years ago put a put a
[1:06:36] receptor trap out in the lawn was a big
[1:06:39] tank that we can pump out on a regular
[1:06:41] basis things like that even that wasn't
[1:06:43] made for what we use for art now we're
[1:06:47] ahead to retrofit it it's better not
[1:06:49] perfect but it's better
[1:06:58] kind of questions for Gerry
[1:07:06] for anybody else
[1:07:10] it was you're here in the community
[1:07:18] experiencing I'm hearing right now yes
[1:07:21] the between they would like to see
[1:07:30] facility planning a play about what what
[1:07:34] should happen with ice boner I think
[1:07:37] we're to the point now we we need to
[1:07:42] buckle down as or in the senior
[1:07:44] leadership and start to tell the story
[1:07:46] everything that Jerry has said of the
[1:07:50] safety concerns and saying this this is an authority we
[1:07:58] from the conversations today I think
[1:08:01] it's clear that we we have needs that we
[1:08:06] can't fix with the funding that we have
[1:08:11] and it's not because of we have we have
[1:08:18] diligently it is not the school that my
[1:08:25] parents grew up
[1:08:27] and so
[1:08:29] they think that's an that's an important
[1:08:31] message to to also convey
[1:08:35] the jobs that we're asking our students
[1:08:38] to do today are not the students
[1:08:42] are not the jobs that we ask students to
[1:08:44] do 50 years ago and so those messages
[1:08:49] need to come out I think it's time to
[1:08:52] say we're gonna start telling that story
[1:08:57] and see there's community support or to
[1:09:02] raise a community awareness which
[1:09:06] so is it appropriate at this time to
[1:09:10] like Justin would you be the one that
[1:09:14] worked on this one-page back sheet well
[1:09:16] honestly it will put multiple people so
[1:09:22] is it can we say Justin go ahead and do
[1:09:27] that well okay I'm just as fossil yeah
[1:09:32] well we can do whether the direction
[1:09:35] could be is if you please the board in
[1:09:38] the January meeting we can do actually
[1:09:40] today into action on in here
[1:09:41] but it please Lord I put a
[1:09:43] recommendation out that we initiate a
[1:09:46] communication plan on to the community
[1:09:49] and also and I'm we've been working on
[1:09:52] skeleton of one that I get out to you
[1:09:54] guys for review and for the community
[1:09:55] that we'd say you know you're going to
[1:09:57] town hall meetings let's let's open a
[1:09:59] community-wide dialogue a discussion
[1:10:00] where we feed the needs are getting
[1:10:02] tours lined up getting information
[1:10:04] campaign when people are in doubt
[1:10:07] they're going you know they other
[1:10:09] questions answer and get that feedback
[1:10:12] and answer questions that come up and
[1:10:14] engage your parents and do those types
[1:10:16] of things and we can do it really a nice
[1:10:18] aggressive I the wrong work but you know
[1:10:21] mortgage trip campaign again I'll
[1:10:23] reiterate we want to keep the focus on
[1:10:24] teaching learning focus on teaching
[1:10:26] learning but this is in the background
[1:10:27] going on at the same time and my
[1:10:29] recommendation would be sometime in may
[1:10:30] run the survey again see where we're at
[1:10:32] that can inform our next steps of where
[1:10:34] we're going what we need to do there
[1:10:36] there's no doubt we need to do something
[1:10:38] but we also know that we're all in this
[1:10:41] together the communities kind of
[1:10:42] supportive of what we need to do and it
[1:10:43] is a big investment but I also and I
[1:10:47] think this is a big piece for us too
[1:10:50] if we decide to go in this direction and
[1:10:52] wait and figure out the next steps I
[1:10:54] think that's really nice
[1:10:56] no one has listened to the community of
[1:10:59] the survey and be responsive to that you
[1:11:02] know the survey comes out we just
[1:11:03] decided to do something else you know I
[1:11:05] think there's there's a key talking
[1:11:07] point like hey community we hurt it
[1:11:08] you're not informed you're not ready we
[1:11:10] need to do a better job of that and get
[1:11:11] that information out and you know there
[1:11:14] are some some tax questions in the
[1:11:16] community and we're gonna take some more
[1:11:19] time and and answer those questions and
[1:11:21] listen to you and I think that's a huge
[1:11:23] David horse I'd like to suggest maybe we
[1:11:28] have a couple of more board meetings in
[1:11:32] the high school in the next six months
[1:11:35] or so maybe even short tours if we need
[1:11:42] additional depending upon the length of
[1:11:46] time that meanings end up going if we
[1:11:50] think that our board meetings are
[1:11:52] getting too long in the next six months
[1:11:56] with everything else we're doing maybe
[1:12:00] have the third Monday of the month as a
[1:12:02] workshop at 6:30 6:15 and just have it
[1:12:07] devoted to high school on communication
[1:12:13] whatever so that we can focus on this
[1:12:18] one topic we did that a lot in 2014
[1:12:22] we're dealing with the school project
[1:12:25] going forward I think for four months
[1:12:29] we've had every Monday night for four
[1:12:32] months the the regular meetings were
[1:12:36] regular business on the second fourth
[1:12:39] Monday and the first and the third were
[1:12:41] only on moving the middle school project
[1:12:45] forward so that you can stay focused on
[1:12:48] that one topic for a meeting so I'd just
[1:12:51] bring that up as a reminder we did that
[1:12:53] before maybe we need to look at that in
[1:12:56] the future again and I'm not I don't
[1:12:58] think we're to the point where we need
[1:13:00] every need to meet every Monday night
[1:13:01] but if we want to spend an hour on this
[1:13:04] topic once a month maybe it could mean
[1:13:08] the third Monday and we just lined up
[1:13:11] the high school people and do short
[1:13:14] tours or something it's just a
[1:13:17] suggestion another way to look at us
[1:13:21] handling and dealing with it given the
[1:13:24] public awareness out do we have to meet
[1:13:29] could it be a Saturday morning could be
[1:13:31] 70 parties yeah another time preferably
[1:13:46] not very many more things just because
[1:13:55] take away another night from you know
[1:13:58] being a family whatever i i i person's
[1:14:03] that's just well I might to not
[1:14:26] automatically this but a work session
[1:14:28] you know it's on your core you can
[1:14:30] proceed self-confidence come up you can
[1:14:32] still do that discussion especially a
[1:14:34] discussion is maybe those those were
[1:14:36] sessions because the tape on tours in
[1:14:37] high school to engage the community I'll
[1:14:40] tell you one thing we'll need to is help
[1:14:42] from the board as well engaging you know
[1:14:43] we we think between now and probably
[1:14:46] maybe we need to do probably 20
[1:14:47] different community meetings and I'm not
[1:14:49] saying like being informal town all time
[1:14:51] say the idea get the Dave's in the
[1:14:53] conical you know having people and and
[1:14:55] while that's powerful for me to do that
[1:14:57] I'll do a lot of those it's a powerful
[1:14:58] for board members for students and I'll
[1:15:00] tell you as I go I'm gonna take students
[1:15:01] with me we don't do because our focus on
[1:15:03] student leadership we don't want any
[1:15:04] we're about students because they it's
[1:15:06] their school we serve them they're our
[1:15:08] primary customer but what we'll need
[1:15:10] help with back to and we're telling the
[1:15:12] staff to you know make this the dialogue
[1:15:14] is you're sitting around the dinner
[1:15:16] table you talk about you know or you're
[1:15:17] talking with people your questions
[1:15:19] answer those questions and you know get
[1:15:21] needs to be just a we call see wat see
[1:15:23] MOT consistent message over time this
[1:15:26] needs to be a dialogue in the community
[1:15:28] so we can get more feedback where people
[1:15:29] thinking are they sensing or they see it
[1:15:31] when they carry to be more responsive to
[1:15:33] it those surveys one step you know and
[1:15:36] now or the next level of getting more
[1:15:37] deeply feedback to actually invite some
[1:15:44] of our local clubs and organizations to
[1:15:48] a meet send the president a letter and
[1:15:52] say
[1:15:55] whatever chapter we really like you to
[1:15:58] come to this meeting
[1:15:59] well we thought about - inviting some of
[1:16:02] those lunch groups to have lunch up at
[1:16:04] the high school you know we'll take out
[1:16:06] to work it will be just a good comment
[1:16:10] on that fan mail or something like that
[1:16:11] and you know invite rotary of my why is
[1:16:14] that become beating at our high school
[1:16:16] you know those types of things are
[1:16:18] powerful messages again we're not trying
[1:16:21] to sell people on something at this
[1:16:22] point we're really just trying to make
[1:16:23] them informed and combined with the
[1:16:27] chance to do this because because
[1:16:31] ultimately it's not this bond that makes
[1:16:35] the decision on it if we move forward
[1:16:36] our high schools the community and right
[1:16:38] all we're doing we asked the question
[1:16:41] but part of our job to ask that question
[1:16:43] is also make sure that people have the
[1:16:44] right information answer your questions
[1:16:46] and just being open invitation about
[1:16:47] them
[1:16:47] what I think I responsibilities to
[1:16:49] communicate what the gates out or how
[1:16:50] people understand how we're gonna go
[1:16:52] about that what we're going to do
[1:16:55] support us given that clarity how can I
[1:16:58] put every what our plan is you know the
[1:16:59] leadership I'm going to have this is
[1:17:01] what going forward would you support it
[1:17:06] and I think we talked about in our
[1:17:08] communications committee meeting having
[1:17:10] our board meetings
[1:17:18] super stack drop it throughout what
[1:17:21] people see going forward and a guy had
[1:17:25] made the comment they you know
[1:17:27] unfortunately a lot of public to come
[1:17:29] but maybe you're going to once this
[1:17:32] people will start from high school or
[1:17:47] even even our work sessions I don't know
[1:17:49] if there's if you had met someone in the
[1:17:51] morning would be proud I don't know
[1:17:52] where we couldn't have yeah someone make
[1:18:01] sure you get a lot of the people
[1:18:04] involved not just
[1:18:06] right maybe that's not a problem but it
[1:18:09] sometimes it is to me to engage oh
[1:18:14] thanks have question I didn't get an
[1:18:18] answer
[1:18:20] I think that's a great idea I think we
[1:18:22] should start out I want to make that
[1:18:27] happen
[1:18:29] we'll do in the library I think Jerry
[1:18:32] said feedback works there what I'm
[1:18:39] hearing is you guys would love to see
[1:18:41] plans moving forward from the
[1:18:43] administration leadership on
[1:18:45] communication and engagement and those
[1:18:47] different things and so you combine
[1:18:52] words including tours and then it's a
[1:18:55] lot would happen is I'll put a plan
[1:18:56] together they haven't reviewed with a
[1:18:59] committee at some point as well tall
[1:19:00] view and then in a first January meeting
[1:19:02] my recommendation would be to the board
[1:19:05] to direct means to initiate in
[1:19:06] communication with mr. Fisher just so
[1:19:09] making sure that that point is a whole
[1:19:11] plan to talk about how we're gonna do
[1:19:14] the days of 104 and what we're going to
[1:19:17] do
[1:19:18] if you're successful in moving this
[1:19:19] project forward our continued our
[1:19:22] teaching and learning facilities put
[1:19:25] people all of those things I mean a big
[1:19:28] part of the plan that's just
[1:19:29] specifically renovations yeah yeah the
[1:19:31] security we want you know make sure it's
[1:19:37] comprehensive and I'm confident you can
[1:19:38] do that absolutely well and right right
[1:19:42] no surprises well I'll tell you is that
[1:19:43] not playing a lot of lot of input from
[1:19:45] you folks I see a long footwear me to
[1:19:47] give me important feedback we'll get
[1:19:49] through community and good leadership as
[1:19:51] well and it'll be able to be breathing
[1:19:52] thing you know as we go into town hall
[1:19:54] meeting we get input and feedback you
[1:19:56] know they may just some of the things I
[1:19:57] would use time so no I haven't rarely
[1:19:59] the smartest guy who knows all Leon you
[1:20:01] guys to sometimes be looking for a draft
[1:20:14] of that you know or email my update and
[1:20:17] give me some feedback and input and
[1:20:19] we'll get some feedback from our
[1:20:20] leadership from our staff from our
[1:20:22] students on that communication plan and
[1:20:24] community as well I have one of my white
[1:20:30] work that I can't
[1:20:30] my wife works I gotta get into it yeah
[1:20:34] these pictures all you want to be my
[1:20:36] chicken scribblers well you have any
[1:20:40] [Music]
[1:20:44] well I just wanted to say thanks to mr.
[1:20:47] Fisher Mike and Justin for their work
[1:20:49] I'm putting that communication together
[1:20:51] they talked about it every time
[1:20:54] Communications I really appreciate them
[1:21:01] hissing it's not going to take much to
[1:21:04] really finalize you've got certain
[1:21:08] crafts here here's my cavities I was
[1:21:11] gonna have free this morning but got
[1:21:12] kicked my butt of the sinus infection
[1:21:14] I'm just a little high I got here attack
[1:21:16] that because I really do I Jerry mother
[1:21:18] helped us with it and as did any of
[1:21:21] Justin and so we're taking the best from
[1:21:22] people I'm going to read past some super
[1:21:25] tender threads that are doing this work
[1:21:27] as well and if they're so I'd say the
[1:21:30] next couple days you'll see if you got
[1:21:31] draft for me but again don't it's not
[1:21:33] the Word of God I have to be back in put
[1:21:35] it on the plate you're seeing sensing so
[1:21:37] that by the time we get before being at
[1:21:39] a credible plan to get community
[1:21:41] everything so living breathable absolute
[1:21:47] government well the end target hopefully
[1:21:50] is the same but how we get there always
[1:21:54] very well adjustments on yeah yeah
[1:21:57] [Music]
[1:22:03] oh yeah I just know see some press
[1:23:15] coming out in Mason City is asking to
[1:23:17] join the NAIC so I have super-predator
[1:23:19] meeting today right now my position on
[1:23:21] that I mean ask them thank you guys
[1:23:23] there's a consideration really talented
[1:23:26] Bryan as a senior leadership want
[1:23:28] puddling for the recommendation they
[1:23:29] have this is so new
[1:23:31] no basis either it's something on the
[1:23:34] back for several years so also you'll be
[1:23:37] seeing we had a nice conversation with
[1:23:39] press about our high scores in the state
[1:23:41] test I'm getting sourced to you where
[1:23:43] we're struggling with it's a new test
[1:23:45] this year and they had a dashboard where
[1:23:47] we pulled it down a bit of a mess
[1:23:49] and so we're having a hand calculate a
[1:23:51] lot of the scores on a spreadsheet we're
[1:23:53] actually engaging with a new company
[1:23:55] called performance matters and it's our
[1:23:56] own in-house data warehouse we're using
[1:23:58] but it's taking them tied because they
[1:24:00] had to do the scores from the state that
[1:24:02] dumped into our auditor warehouse and
[1:24:03] then we're going to training tomorrow on
[1:24:05] how to use that that were asked a lot of
[1:24:07] presentation for you guys as a board to
[1:24:09] later on as well but I wanted you know
[1:24:11] right pull the source that I just want
[1:24:13] to happen tonight if I need you I can
[1:24:15] give to you right now that would make
[1:24:16] sense it's a packet of information I
[1:24:18] want to get into digestible chunks that
[1:24:19] make sense to you guys so we'll be
[1:24:21] hopefully get that to you soon so we're
[1:24:22] close from last train doesn't ask for
[1:24:25] that but right now the way this
[1:24:27] typically they're not reading it so
[1:24:29] we're trying to be good like an
[1:24:31] executive summary that you guys so
[1:24:33] that's it