1 00:00:00,110 --> 00:00:08,050 On John Maxi, Vice Chair of the Call of Time, you told him board, and I will call this August 26th meeting of the board to order. 2 00:00:09,890 --> 00:00:15,110 The first item of business is to review our minutes of the last meeting. 3 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:23,400 First, to accept minutes as a minute. 4 00:00:26,430 --> 00:00:27,630 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 5 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:32,370 I was, I was, I was myself to find my white penitentiance. 6 00:00:32,450 --> 00:00:33,270 Yeah, I was in now. 7 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:39,300 That's a tight question. 8 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:46,160 So there's a 5-0 on page to like us, minutes, this is messy. 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,420 I'll take the lecture. 10 00:00:49,460 --> 00:00:51,320 I'll just put that. 11 00:00:51,380 --> 00:00:53,500 We have a motion to approve the minutes. 12 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:53,980 And second. 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:54,720 One of them. 14 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:55,600 With that correction. 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:57,760 All in favor. 16 00:00:59,020 --> 00:00:59,200 Hi. 17 00:00:59,660 --> 00:01:00,960 Thank you. 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,500 Next we have public comments. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,760 And we have Christine Weimer from the Jefferson County Foundation. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:32,700 I want to talk about school warming, so the school we're meeting on Monday of this week. 21 00:01:33,140 --> 00:01:36,180 I don't know if anyone watched it. I encourage you to watch the evening. 22 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:46,500 It was clear to us that the presentation that was previously given to the board was misinterpreted. 23 00:01:46,500 --> 00:02:15,140 It seems to us, and this will work the least if they have a choice between American water and sea pump, and they seem to think that the letter was then choosing the sea tub and so now two of them are advocating for them to invite American water to give a presentation, and so that American water can explain to them what American water can offer them. 24 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:21,140 There are concerns that CTO will not be able to provide the service to the nearer, 25 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,900 to the reversing to have been told this by after people sort of listen to us. 26 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:35,240 He had the team to name that American water can service this full faster than CTO can. 27 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:43,620 It is our sending and CTO has a stand within two miles of that school of South Jefferson. 28 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:51,140 So it's understanding that C-tub is supposed to suit utility and therefore it is firmly within C-tub's own service area. 29 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:59,840 However, other board members of the school board believe that it's possible when they've been told that American water is in fact closer 30 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:06,580 and that they are there for dinner, that is their work in American waters service area. 31 00:03:06,580 --> 00:03:20,020 I think that a, maybe, a more communication with the Board of Education and explaining to them in a very well-thought-out, well-planned presentation, 32 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:30,240 or maybe even a group, you know, a joint meeting to explain the support that school is within the service area, 33 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:38,780 and that C-tose is willing to able and happy to serve that school, and that is what should happen. 34 00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:44,340 And that is not in any way connected to them, but through van data centers. 35 00:03:45,260 --> 00:03:53,120 It seems to be strong in this conception of the word that they were being asked to support data centers. 36 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,740 when we were being asked to, 37 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,120 when we met, it was explained to them that, 38 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,380 you know, C-tub was totally going to go by there 39 00:04:01,380 --> 00:04:02,660 and couldn't go by that school, 40 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:05,860 they took that to me that they were somehow 41 00:04:05,860 --> 00:04:08,300 being asked to support data centers. 42 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:14,360 And the misconception is clear in the meeting on Monday, 43 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,540 we're very concerning to us. 44 00:04:16,820 --> 00:04:21,220 So we heard C-tub to again reach out to the Board of Education, 45 00:04:21,220 --> 00:04:27,060 And maybe the Vice-Charm in Maxi could get a presentation 46 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:31,160 or a board member who wishes to go whether it be in the right meeting. 47 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:31,680 Something. 48 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,900 This is going the wrong way. 49 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,120 We are very concerned that children deserve 50 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,460 to be granted honor. 51 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:42,000 This whole system deserves a little respect they can get. 52 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,080 And children deserve groundwater for generations to come 53 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,300 and wait to do that to work with CTO. 54 00:04:48,820 --> 00:04:50,220 They also deserve information. 55 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:55,500 about the one that they're getting, and again, that is what's the urge you to work with this 56 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:59,780 reward that's going to them, and see each other every Saturday afternoon and each. 57 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:12,940 Thank you. Thank you. We also have e-mail comment from Ashley Stottelmeyer. I assume that will be placed in the record. 58 00:05:13,820 --> 00:05:25,550 We will move on to unfinished business. We have several three actual items for executive session. 59 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:29,890 And I would wonder if the board would consider moving those to the bottom of the agenda. 60 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,450 The version that we move into the end of the meeting. 61 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:36,090 All in favor? 62 00:05:37,090 --> 00:05:37,670 Thank you so much. 63 00:05:38,290 --> 00:05:45,830 And while we're waiting on that question for our attorney, I noted that we have three different 64 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:51,530 citations of question you code for the three different moves to executive session. 65 00:05:51,530 --> 00:05:59,730 The third one is not on that I've seen before, so I was wondering if that was correct or maybe a type of. 66 00:05:59,730 --> 00:06:04,030 That's for a question, because it's 698, 418. 67 00:06:06,490 --> 00:06:07,210 Yeah. 68 00:06:08,210 --> 00:06:08,930 Yes. 69 00:06:08,930 --> 00:06:09,850 That's correct. 70 00:06:10,510 --> 00:06:10,710 Okay. 71 00:06:11,550 --> 00:06:12,610 Thank you so much. 72 00:06:12,970 --> 00:06:17,170 Then we will move on to item C about the business. 73 00:06:17,170 --> 00:06:20,030 this, the summit point regional corridor initiative. 74 00:06:21,730 --> 00:06:29,450 Yeah, so we had a very productive 5G interview with Patesta on August 13th, a really good 75 00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:36,290 conversation, a very productive, you know, that they started with a presentation and that 76 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:41,070 quickly turned into more of a conversation and but still very productive. 77 00:06:41,070 --> 00:06:43,750 We covered a lot of ground. 78 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:55,210 Discussed all the different moving parts involved in bringing utility services out to some 79 00:06:55,210 --> 00:06:56,150 of point. 80 00:06:57,330 --> 00:07:05,010 And of course, south Jefferson Elementary being a focus of C-tups and, you know, obviously 81 00:07:05,010 --> 00:07:13,030 our desire to also provide them services either along the way or in the process of also providing 82 00:07:13,030 --> 00:07:26,370 utility services to some point. And just as to give a quick summary, this is kind of a summary 83 00:07:26,370 --> 00:07:32,390 of what we discussed at this phase, not necessarily in as orderly 84 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:37,350 a fashion, but all of these various topics we're discussed at 1.0 or 85 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:42,850 another, and so I, you know, just to give the members of the board that 86 00:07:42,850 --> 00:07:47,310 weren't here, an idea of, you know, how the conversation went, it went very 87 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:55,210 well, and we, the panel convened immediately after and made the decision to 88 00:07:55,210 --> 00:08:00,970 I recommend moving forward with Patessa and beginning contract negotiations. 89 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:05,550 Motion of the board to that effect? 90 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:06,070 Correct. 91 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:13,190 Motion by myself to accept Patessa as the owner engineered for the projects that 92 00:08:13,190 --> 00:08:15,210 we present them at a 5G meter. 93 00:08:15,470 --> 00:08:16,870 And do you have a second? 94 00:08:17,810 --> 00:08:18,150 Well second. 95 00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:23,810 Then as a part of the discussion and related to some of the public comment, 96 00:08:23,810 --> 00:08:32,710 I'll point out that the board very specifically requested that the test of designing the preliminary 97 00:08:32,710 --> 00:08:39,230 engineering report in modules, independent of each other, including bringing water in wastewater 98 00:08:39,230 --> 00:08:43,930 service to the South Jefferson School as early as next year. 99 00:08:44,590 --> 00:08:50,950 General Manager has spoken to West Virginia D.E.P. and believes we are eligible for $4 million 100 00:08:50,950 --> 00:08:58,290 grant for running fresh water from the central plant down to the school and that 101 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:01,830 doubt will be considered as part of the preliminary engineering report from 102 00:09:01,830 --> 00:09:08,610 Patesta specific to providing services to the elementary school. So that is of 103 00:09:08,610 --> 00:09:13,210 course independent of any of the other corridor initiatives and 104 00:09:13,210 --> 00:09:15,570 and we need to frame it that way. 105 00:09:17,530 --> 00:09:19,950 And again, in reference to the public comment, 106 00:09:21,850 --> 00:09:25,230 I regret that there was a misconception there, 107 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:30,090 but the presentation I gave was very detailed 108 00:09:31,730 --> 00:09:36,570 and was explicit that one that C-tub is interested 109 00:09:36,570 --> 00:09:38,210 in providing services to them. 110 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:51,630 And then the process, we would be following moving forward, which includes access, access to grants, and bringing water and waste water services. 111 00:09:51,630 --> 00:09:58,790 to use it, the grant funding would be available in 2027 or so. 112 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:09,420 For those to move back quickly. Correct. Great. That's great. With the board, consider allowing me to, as Vice Chair, reach out to the school board to that fact. 113 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,200 One thing we should follow with Paul. He's back with him the first time. I think that's it. 114 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Thank you. 115 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:16,540 Okay. 116 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:20,040 How if we can certainly get on support? 117 00:10:20,460 --> 00:10:24,320 Well, we have a motion to be seconded on the table. 118 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:31,000 So all in favor, I'm sorry, I'm going to do an analyst decision to go with the test done. 119 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:42,520 And then as a side, if you would reach out to the school board to clarify that we intend to file a preliminary engineering report to IGTC, 120 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:50,360 intend to apply for the $4 million emerging contaminants grant through TBP. 121 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,260 And we intend to be able to provide service to the school late 2027. 122 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:55,980 Absolutely. 123 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,340 I will do that in detail. 124 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,900 Let's move on then to 125 00:11:07,010 --> 00:11:09,810 item two of the seats. 126 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:14,410 It's two August 27 meeting with the West Virginia Department of Commerce. 127 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:15,230 That's tomorrow. 128 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:16,470 Yes. 129 00:11:16,750 --> 00:11:17,850 Excited about that. 130 00:11:17,850 --> 00:11:23,330 It's, I will be attending, so we'll represent it as some rise to development, particularly 131 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:24,250 with Kenny Bodai. 132 00:11:24,890 --> 00:11:32,870 He provided a presentation, not long ago, delegate clerk will be there, delegate funcows 133 00:11:33,490 --> 00:11:40,050 or commissioner mood, along with director Morris from the data economy office of the department 134 00:11:40,050 --> 00:11:48,830 the commerce, and will be discussing the preliminary plans for the data center out at some 135 00:11:48,830 --> 00:11:58,190 point, including their proposed location and size, capacity, usage requirements, and I'll 136 00:11:58,190 --> 00:12:00,850 be providing, they'll be bringing the wrong presentation. 137 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:05,130 I'll be providing some supplementary information, 138 00:12:07,210 --> 00:12:10,030 and yeah, very much looking forward to 139 00:12:10,030 --> 00:12:16,730 that I did take a quick pre-trip out there with Ryan Stewart 140 00:12:16,730 --> 00:12:19,350 development, just to kind of do a preliminary walkthrough 141 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:21,910 of what that presentation would look like and understand 142 00:12:22,380 --> 00:12:24,730 a little bit more about it before we got out there. 143 00:12:24,990 --> 00:12:25,750 Beautiful property, 144 00:12:28,430 --> 00:12:33,150 what the plan is, it's a 235 acre property. 145 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:35,570 The footprint of the data center is going 146 00:12:35,570 --> 00:12:37,490 to be roughly four of those acres. 147 00:12:37,490 --> 00:12:43,550 and will be positioned almost underneath the transmission line 148 00:12:43,550 --> 00:12:45,790 they are passing through the property currently. 149 00:12:47,650 --> 00:12:53,850 And so there's, you know, to me it's in terms of environmental impact 150 00:12:53,850 --> 00:12:58,530 or it's looking mostly minimal. 151 00:13:00,070 --> 00:13:03,430 You did, and of course, after the meeting, 152 00:13:03,790 --> 00:13:06,950 and at our following regular meeting, I'll provide a full update 153 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:09,130 on how the visit went and next steps. 154 00:13:09,490 --> 00:13:09,690 That's great. 155 00:13:09,950 --> 00:13:13,690 I do understand that there are not disclosure of these 156 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:16,330 not the things that come out in line and schools, 157 00:13:16,890 --> 00:13:18,890 but between lines to various other state buildings. 158 00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:23,050 So I know there's information that we may not 159 00:13:23,050 --> 00:13:24,530 be aware of being able to disclose, 160 00:13:25,330 --> 00:13:27,050 but I appreciate the public sort of 161 00:13:27,050 --> 00:13:28,610 and appreciate the amount of food you've learned. 162 00:13:29,270 --> 00:13:31,710 That's for public use. 163 00:13:31,830 --> 00:13:34,670 The developer of the project is Ryan Stewart-Devilman. 164 00:13:34,670 --> 00:13:38,070 They are experienced at Data Center Development. 165 00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:44,970 They have stated four acres of the 200 acres of parcels 166 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:47,390 would be used for this particular project. 167 00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:54,850 You also asked about the possibility of using the remaining farmland. 168 00:13:55,070 --> 00:14:02,790 That was a recommendation I've heard from quite a few people, including Dr. Wimer that 169 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:11,310 The disappearance of farmland is a particular concern for Jefferson County and the local community. 170 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:17,910 And I mentioned, you know, if they're going to have just a four acre footprint, then there's a lot of relief. 171 00:14:18,410 --> 00:14:26,310 And that they should consider leasing or subdividing the remaining piece of the property for continued farm use. 172 00:14:26,630 --> 00:14:28,730 And they said they would look into that. 173 00:14:28,730 --> 00:14:35,750 Just to find out, like to judge whether or not the board needs to take any action on this agenda item, 174 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:41,610 do you plan any sort of agreement or action at tomorrow's e-commerce administration? 175 00:14:42,350 --> 00:14:48,070 This is strictly informational. The end goal for Ryan Sird Development Institute is to become certified, 176 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:54,810 state certified as a high-impact data center. 177 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:59,710 And once that certification happens, then. 178 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:08,700 You know, they become much more viable both in the eyes of the state, but also with end users. 179 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:21,080 So if that were to occur, you know, the likelihood of a data center actually being developed on that property increase significantly. 180 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:27,320 But once again, that's a contingent of supply and supply and supply and supply and waste water service to the South China. 181 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:28,740 Correct. 182 00:15:28,740 --> 00:15:31,840 yes, I think that's completely independent, 183 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,620 but an independent goal of ours, that's what I've been, that's the direction I've been given by the board. 184 00:15:41,860 --> 00:15:45,600 And if we can make the two happen in concert, then that's preferable. 185 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,260 It's a more economical and a better project for the county. 186 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,680 We can combine things with multiple places. 187 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,260 Correct. 188 00:15:52,860 --> 00:15:58,000 And then of course, HP 2014 would require the data center 189 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,900 developer to fund all of the regional infrastructure 190 00:16:01,620 --> 00:16:03,100 out to the site. 191 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,240 And we've talked about South Jefferson Elementary 192 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,460 and some of the point, Motorsports Park. 193 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:12,160 And they're rallying value and importance 194 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,120 and importance to Jefferson County. 195 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:21,260 and they've seen more than enthusiastic about the opportunity to also bring them utility 196 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:21,940 services. 197 00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:25,980 Are they also meeting with the American Motor or I guess we would have to be pretty 198 00:16:25,980 --> 00:16:26,580 to that? 199 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:33,500 Um, you know, I've had some very frank open conversations with Kenny Bodai at Ryan's 200 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:33,980 for development. 201 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,580 He has not mentioned anything like that. 202 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:45,300 The amount and, of course, depends on the way they would design and cool their facility. 203 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:59,090 It's likely, though, that because West Virginia American Waters is largely groundwater and just the amount of water they need on a daily basis. 204 00:16:59,170 --> 00:17:04,350 I mean, we're talking over 100 million, sorry, 500,000 gallons a day. 205 00:17:06,330 --> 00:17:13,010 That it's likely they don't have the capacity to provide services, but that's an assumption. 206 00:17:14,590 --> 00:17:15,430 More questions? 207 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:22,390 There are a lot of other questions you'd have to come back to the next meeting after we hear what happens tomorrow, right? 208 00:17:22,810 --> 00:17:22,990 Thank you. 209 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:24,110 I think it's a question somehow. 210 00:17:24,330 --> 00:17:25,010 I don't know anything about it. 211 00:17:26,110 --> 00:17:28,670 I think I can provide an update soon of that. 212 00:17:28,990 --> 00:17:30,250 Well, that's up to you if you will send email. 213 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:36,230 Yeah, I do have about one more additional question that is early on. 214 00:17:36,370 --> 00:17:40,930 Right, Stewart had expressed an interest in me with him treated waste water for cooling. 215 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:42,910 Is that still the substance compensation? 216 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:50,490 Yes, Kenny Boda, I actually mentioned that the most recent end-user they had conversations with said that they prefer 217 00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:53,230 Reclaimed water for use in cooling. 218 00:17:53,770 --> 00:17:57,930 So that kind of moves a lot of what's really water out, they look down at the bottom. 219 00:17:58,090 --> 00:18:01,270 At least for that particular end user, yes. 220 00:18:02,030 --> 00:18:02,230 Thank you. 221 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:07,490 So you don't need any action for the board for tomorrow's week? 222 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:13,010 No, but I'd say board member gives me this inquiry. 223 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:18,690 And I will provide a full update on how the meeting goes to the board. 224 00:18:18,970 --> 00:18:19,490 The email. 225 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:22,810 And then again, at our next point. 226 00:18:24,610 --> 00:18:31,590 I really appreciate, as a member of the board, your efforts to present an infrastructure 227 00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:39,250 development in a coordinated way, but this initiative is not strictly for a single project 228 00:18:39,250 --> 00:18:44,810 for medical three, some of the point-most reports, the possible data center, and the school. 229 00:18:45,410 --> 00:18:49,670 I think that doing things in that way benefits the public personally, so I appreciate that 230 00:18:49,670 --> 00:18:50,450 that's the way we're going. 231 00:18:51,290 --> 00:18:59,050 Yeah, I think it's a huge opportunity for CTOB and our customers. 232 00:18:59,630 --> 00:19:02,890 We basically presented the test of that away, that which we needed. 233 00:19:03,370 --> 00:19:05,950 So again, it's pretty clear that's what we're looking forward to. 234 00:19:06,910 --> 00:19:08,410 Well, I mean, I disagree. 235 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:13,930 This is what we presented to, we asked for these four alternatives to the evaluated. 236 00:19:13,930 --> 00:19:20,030 But three at the top of the three, you just follow his men at the top. He did John this mention. 237 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:27,160 Ten of the men is building the way to, and now we want each to be independent. 238 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:37,600 In fact, they're required to, but we've mentioned the state grant source for the school requires that that be kept completely independent. 239 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,600 Correct. 240 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,340 And touching back on that, it's a be eligible for that emerging contaminant funding. 241 00:19:45,980 --> 00:19:51,000 The conversation we had with Protesters was that one of the very early phases of preliminary 242 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,940 engineering would be creating essentially what is a mini-PER that forward water and wastewater 243 00:19:57,940 --> 00:19:58,480 services. 244 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:58,860 Thank you. 245 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:16,180 Only two south Jefferson, so that that could be appended to, well, since IJDC, IJDC, IJDC, first for grant approval, and then included in ADP grant application for emerging contaminants. 246 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:25,320 That's kind of a good segue into item C3, presentation to Jefferson County Board of Education, and Professor Letters. 247 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,240 Yeah, we have a letter of support. 248 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:29,980 We do, it just came today. 249 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,400 As Dr. Warmer alluded to in public comment, 250 00:20:36,540 --> 00:20:39,700 it didn't go to the smoothest, but it went. 251 00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:46,420 So, and then they did, they didn't want to, 252 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:48,080 and reasonably so, 253 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,320 go outside the guardrails of what should benefit 254 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,820 a public agency, like the Board of Education, and Jeff's kind of public schools. 255 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,760 So they do encourage and support CTOB bringing them services, 256 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,800 but the idea that those services 257 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:17,140 could be funded by the possibility of data center development, they did not want to get involved 258 00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:17,900 with. 259 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,760 And that's understandable. 260 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,000 So they awarded their letter of support as such. 261 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:25,860 That's fine. 262 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,880 Would you consider with approval of the board, 263 00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:32,800 reaching out to the school board, 264 00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:35,980 and letting them know how far along we are 265 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:39,840 with the immersion contaminants fund source, 266 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:46,020 the NEPGAR and our plans to provide service late next year? 267 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:46,700 Yes. 268 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:50,360 Your earlier motion, asking me to give them an update. 269 00:21:50,620 --> 00:22:10,940 That was one of the first things that came to my mind was outlining exactly where we are in the grant application process and where we are with Fatesta and giving them an estimated timeline of the process from when we receive that many PAR to how the grant application would progress and then ultimately to a full design and construction. 270 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:18,980 I should not have brought that issue up under item C, I, if you want. 271 00:22:19,540 --> 00:22:20,780 I should have waited to this one. 272 00:22:21,180 --> 00:22:23,780 So I was to clarify a few minutes for next meeting. 273 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,900 But somebody would be willing to reaffirm that motion so we can get on 274 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:28,190 Threadward. 275 00:22:30,730 --> 00:22:33,950 This would be moving the general manager, 276 00:22:34,130 --> 00:22:37,430 Reach out to the school board to clarify the funding source 277 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:40,110 and independence of this project and the timeline. 278 00:22:53,900 --> 00:23:06,200 We will drop down into IMD consideration of policy protecting homeowners by mandatory connection to do the extended water and wastewater infrastructure. 279 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:13,720 I think we're still waiting for action from the City Council on that. I think I believe 280 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:21,940 they're brought, they assign that to their charter advisory committee and waiting to get 281 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:30,980 a response from them on that. On where that. But they seem receptive to anything. 282 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,560 I'm making most of the tables this item until we get to the next. 283 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,940 Thank you Mr. Chair for the question. 284 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Thank you very much. 285 00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:41,360 All in favor of table in motion or table in the head. 286 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Thank you. 287 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,640 We'll move on to item E. 288 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,260 Water is to an alternate mainline evaluation agreement 289 00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:52,040 or an office dean manner. 290 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,600 So this just happened recently. 291 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,740 Our consulting engineer Edwin Dobbs and Chris Edinburgh reached out. 292 00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:11,080 We had performed the analysis, the board, requests before any AMGA as broad, where there's 293 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,180 just kind of a preliminary engineering review of the supported water and wastewater infrastructure. 294 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:26,640 And Chris Seconder did notice that the Huntsfield pump station might be over capacity and 295 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:34,720 and our engineering tech Travis are continuing to work on that so if the board is a 296 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,080 favor we would like to also table this and tell our next meeting at which point we 297 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,040 should have a full review and a better recommendation to provide. 298 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,600 I'm making a motion we table as submitted. 299 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Thank you. 300 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,000 There's a discussion, all in favour? 301 00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:55,580 Motion's table to the next week. 302 00:24:56,540 --> 00:24:57,160 Next. 303 00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:58,620 Item F. 304 00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,960 We'll just go on. 305 00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:25,800 We find we got this one done. It took a while, but we met again, a delicate clerk, myself, and the work of Stil H.O.A., to discuss the water quality of the ponds. If the border calls earlier on this year, think about it maybe a month or two ago. 306 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:37,500 The H.O.A. Bolt at the idea of a joint treatment program, we took another run at it and 307 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:44,180 addressed some of their concerns at another virtual meeting, and ultimately they did agree 308 00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:50,980 to a pilot program that began last Monday and will extend through into November. 309 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:59,780 And it's pilot program, we would just like to try these ultra-clear bacteriological treatment 310 00:25:59,780 --> 00:26:06,980 products and see what kind of water quality results we see and then following the end 311 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:12,180 of the pilot program reevaluate and decide whether this is something we'd like to cooperate 312 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:15,300 and collaborate on annually moving forward. 313 00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:21,690 It's six out of the books for three months. 314 00:26:23,030 --> 00:26:24,970 And that's divided by three as a minimum. 315 00:26:25,230 --> 00:26:27,030 It is, yes it is. 316 00:26:28,530 --> 00:26:29,130 So that's possible. 317 00:26:30,670 --> 00:26:34,130 It's seemingly continued for at least what eight thousand 318 00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:36,410 every year would you. 319 00:26:39,870 --> 00:26:42,590 Because the fund has had no treatment, 320 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:46,150 we had to essentially 321 00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:49,790 We chalk it with quite a bit of product, 322 00:26:51,890 --> 00:26:54,810 but your $8,000 estimate is reasonable for a 323 00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:55,430 full year. 324 00:26:55,750 --> 00:27:02,830 If we decided that this product was worth wild and just $8,000 would be correct split 325 00:27:02,830 --> 00:27:03,810 it was. 326 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,380 It's all under. 327 00:27:12,010 --> 00:27:19,430 It's not really equipment. It would be either maintenance of general 328 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:22,690 because it's technically not like just a 329 00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:29,900 part maintenance of general properties or I'd 330 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:33,980 have to look into it. I was waiting to see if it was going to be a year later. 331 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,940 The entrance, yeah, the voucher's the pilot, yeah. 332 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,740 Right, if this is just the initial, and then we get payment for the two, then see how the 333 00:27:42,740 --> 00:27:49,180 handle is going to handle that. Once I get through my piles, I'm going to handle that one too, 334 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,280 and see how if I need to do it differently, and then we'll have to budget if it's going to become 335 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,740 like a year later. So did we, this did suit up front of those costs, and we're getting 336 00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:06,920 reimburse from the other two parties of the minimum. Correct. Okay. We have received payment from 337 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,560 the golf course, and I believe we're still submitting a waiting on payment. I did just follow 338 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:19,400 up with the HOA Presidents and sent her the paid invoice for alterclier. So I think that reimbursement 339 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,200 is imminent. You may have to wait for a meeting or something too. Probably. 340 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:31,880 for the question, and the motion we shift this minute. 341 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,640 Second, for the discussion, all in favor? 342 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,900 Five, five. 343 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,460 Now let's move it. 344 00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:49,430 Item G, fiscal year 2027, capital of the blue and the land of the blue. 345 00:28:50,650 --> 00:28:57,150 Yeah, so I know that the board has really been wanting to see our capital plan, 346 00:28:57,150 --> 00:29:02,790 and I certainly understand that, you know, this was something that typically occurs with the 347 00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:12,030 operational budget in terms of what the operational budget and so, but we, staff has been 348 00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:20,350 just very busy, there's a lot of different projects and other business going on. So, but with 349 00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:30,630 said we did want to provide something to look at and this is just a working draft and I think 350 00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:38,350 probably the best path moving forward is now to if the board thinks it's a good idea to schedule 351 00:29:38,350 --> 00:29:48,090 some workshop meetings with our consulting engineer and again we're finding it to get into a finalized version. 352 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:51,310 Yeah, I already have another version for the group. 353 00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:56,950 With his personalized, we did the second review, 354 00:29:57,710 --> 00:29:59,950 and then I provided him with that. 355 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Commence for a third review. I'm just keeping track of all those and then put it into one. 356 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:15,200 We're just trying to look at each project, you know, and I need Paul to get a fall of dispute with each law name, myself, so. 357 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,900 I'm a little bit longer than we had thought. 358 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:25,480 Yeah, because I, I want to make sure we know what we, you know, that everything's been covered in, so it's personaged. 359 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,620 I think in Palm better we get some more trips with the board and just for me the information 360 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:32,220 as we get it in. 361 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,460 Yeah. 362 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:33,280 King's like that. 363 00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:39,280 We've had a lot of change in, you know, certain, some employees, even in the field that 364 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:47,340 knew, had knowledge of things and then, do very did the water model and our cancage itself. 365 00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:53,300 And so now, Chris is getting that information so that he can make sure, because a lot of 366 00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:58,660 water projects will remove from the development and we didn't need some of them. 367 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,180 He agreed with those changes and now he just wanted to look into those and those 368 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,660 project costs haven't really changed since first time we discussed them, you know, and 369 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:11,860 we've had a lot going on. 370 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:15,920 So we want to make sure they're correct and they have all the contingency and self-cost 371 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:22,120 and anything in them and then he wants to ensure not missing sections that could be 372 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,840 And we really want to put them in priority order rather than just having them enough. 373 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Let's hear some. 374 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:38,520 I make a motion that we believe this all the agenda until we get to finalize the study between the director and the financial director. 375 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,400 Well, we can have a workshop that discuss it thoroughly. 376 00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:45,540 Keep it on the agenda and don't have any action that all we're doing is looking at something. 377 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Just like I said, discussion only, we're not going to have anything to discuss. 378 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,340 I think we need to get to finalize them where we can have our workshop to discuss them. 379 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,920 Would you consider a time definite on that? 380 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,360 I don't know what that time would be from listening to. 381 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,780 I don't know what that would be. 382 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,320 I don't think it's so much, I mean, I think it's a combination for the water side. 383 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,400 We'd like to pull in our main in secret, and he's the one that works in the field with the distribution. 384 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,760 So when you get to the top projects in that spreadsheet, you know, he is a lot of knowledge 385 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,560 and I think, you know, Kursk has been a big thing, 386 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560 in additional information from him. 387 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,760 Just from the time it's lack of a second. 388 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,600 I don't know where they thought. 389 00:32:34,820 --> 00:32:36,700 Should we order off the phone? 390 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,700 I deal with situations in a second. 391 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,720 I'm going to take a second. 392 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:41,500 I've got some questions. 393 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,180 So the second? 394 00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:44,240 Yes. 395 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,860 I've noticed I pulled out not 20-25. 396 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:53,720 capacity improvement plans and the numbers are almost identical and I'm sure 397 00:32:53,720 --> 00:33:01,780 costs have gone up so yeah so with like some really good numbers so that we're not 398 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:08,600 like pretending you know well the problem with these with the numbers of the 399 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:15,100 active projects are really close and you know but a lot of these we plan to get 400 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:19,540 the estimates we get all the test borders and then years go by. 401 00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:25,220 A lot of these water projects were started and then sewer kind of just took, 402 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,660 so I had these costly money and we haven't finished them. 403 00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:29,580 Like a battle of source and something like that. 404 00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:35,440 Yeah, percentage of the total capital improvements plan budget is taken by the two 405 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,380 plants, water and waste water. 406 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Well, a large percentage of dollars, a hundred million dollars, they do more? 407 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,440 Yes, I think they're both 50 million. 408 00:33:44,440 --> 00:34:13,080 And we pretty certain about those rights, but the other one, you know, we want to make sure we're not under or over or, you know, Steve might say, I fixed this and this is part of this water model and we don't need this portion, but we will need this, we want to like, not perfect because it should be a working document, but get something that we're comfortable with moving forward saying this is what we need at this time, will we probably, would we say every year? 409 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Yes, and but we want to keep it going all the way to know like our 410 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:24,280 Well child we have a policy for review in our sit at the office and it requires that we have a capital 411 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,600 movement plan first 412 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,500 It also requires that we look at 413 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,560 I think it mentioned three specific factors in inflation 414 00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:38,220 Development pressures and capital improvements plan inflation is absolutely 415 00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:42,160 we run you in a much higher rate than we had estimated to hear go. 416 00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:47,660 And the dollar pressures are also increasing further than they weren't hear go. 417 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,840 So we're certainly going to be required to re-evaluate the SIF, we're just waiting on the 418 00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:00,000 improvements plan. I know that we need a solid model for those water and 419 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:13,820 I believe in getting that developed in a scientific way is going to take closer to a year and should inform our August 227 sick for getting it. 420 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:18,060 We're going to need a sick review this year prior to having that information. 421 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:29,480 If the projects that are on there that are known, there's a couple that we're waiting 422 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:37,520 on, it's once there and Chris could do, the other ones are, we're about to move forward 423 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,880 with a lot of projects. 424 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:48,960 Those cost, it's the top section of the water, and to my knowledge, none of those are 425 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,220 emergency, but I don't want to say that because I'm not the one doing the 426 00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:57,040 administration system. So that is a review we could do an initial. 427 00:35:59,380 --> 00:35:59,960 After we get 428 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:05,400 the bids and things, we get a better idea of the green field. We might also 429 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,080 something that we learned from our meetings with the public service 430 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,940 commission in our staff. If they had an engineering division, it's 431 00:36:12,940 --> 00:36:16,760 soft. Pretty good at the value of these things. And with the 432 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,840 of assistance to us if they grow. 433 00:36:19,540 --> 00:36:25,660 So what if you possible to get a draft, capital improvements planned 434 00:36:25,660 --> 00:36:30,880 together by the end of September so that we could schedule a Zoom meeting 435 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,000 with Service Commission staff in October that reasonable expectation? 436 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,640 The draft you're referencing is that a draft from staffers that a draft 437 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,640 like post workshops with the board, post-purchase, I think that's reasonable. 438 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,460 I mean, my question was going to be sort of, I know we discussed bringing the PSE on that, 439 00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:58,120 there's a couple different entry points where we could bring them in. After we've done the plan, 440 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,060 and we're about to start calculating CIFS, I don't know, and I think going deferred to you, Paul, 441 00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:08,580 and sort of with at what point. Because I think we do, we dig as a guidance from PSE on how we should 442 00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:13,140 construct these things. And so, I'm so we can get a lot of that just from the decision that they 443 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:18,100 But we also would like to have a check mark from that too, that would help us as well. 444 00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:25,240 So, would you be able to reach out to them and see if they'd be willing to come into a Zoom meeting during one of the work sessions? 445 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:25,600 Sure. 446 00:37:25,780 --> 00:37:26,580 That's a 10th work session. 447 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,060 At that, at no point in our doing a lot of work that they're not going to approve of. 448 00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:34,360 You said that for the engineering or for the fee. 449 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,660 Because this is a two parts. 450 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,120 I think you're referencing. 451 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,400 Yeah. 452 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,620 You're referencing, finalizing the CIP. 453 00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:48,480 Yeah, and we need advice from engineering at the state to determine what they will consider 454 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,200 to be eligible for such funding. 455 00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:51,360 What they want? 456 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,640 They removed a lot of our items from such eligibility because we haven't provided enough information. 457 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,600 So, it wasn't that they disagreed with our right to do it. 458 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,920 They just said we provided information that backed up that they want for expansion over the 459 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:15,260 expanded capacity. So what we'll need to be able to show them in September at a work session is that 460 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:22,680 the items we want to include for our capital improvements plan for SIF eligibility will increase 461 00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:28,780 capacity. But one of the issues there, unfortunately, is that 462 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,620 and the issue you just referenced refers to 463 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:39,050 to undergrad infrastructure, mostly, and pumping stations. 464 00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:43,770 Think of what you specifically have to prove, scientifically, 465 00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:48,330 that this new development is going to increase usage, 466 00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:54,350 accelerate depreciation, essentially kind of the downstream impacts, 467 00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:57,210 other than treatment of new development. 468 00:38:57,210 --> 00:39:08,810 And without some pretty in-depth novel engineering analysis, the only way to do that is with modeling. 469 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:18,910 And although we just approved table-need the project because we need to upgrade the unfeal consultation, 470 00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:22,210 which we were able to determine without a long term. 471 00:39:22,810 --> 00:39:23,170 Sure. 472 00:39:23,170 --> 00:39:30,470 But that's one thing, and being changing a lot, but the most of the sewer projects, the 473 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:40,970 bottom three collection system projects in the parallel line, those are so far off that 474 00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:44,430 I don't know that anyone's going to be able to say what component is, what has it been 475 00:39:44,430 --> 00:39:47,990 on our books for, that's what he wants to look into. 476 00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:58,610 The other ones have already had the funding, it's going to either be internal funds or passing firm and fee funds. 477 00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:59,950 So that's not... 478 00:40:00,210 --> 00:40:13,470 We're going to be a decision, because it's on making them. I don't know that you want to take. We're about to go forward with green field, forcing it. That's 100%. 479 00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:30,050 We'd have to have wind off and go through each of those projects and evaluate them for the downstream effects and then potentially assign those particular projects growth percentages. 480 00:40:30,050 --> 00:40:31,990 And we could do that. 481 00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:32,830 You could do that. 482 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:36,450 But the bulk of this, let's start about to be out of to bid. 483 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:39,930 With the perils already for where the funding is coming from. 484 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:42,990 So there's really no question on that one section. 485 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:46,150 We're looking for the capacity for another issue. 486 00:40:46,270 --> 00:40:46,570 Right. 487 00:40:47,090 --> 00:40:48,710 And so that's why we're looking at the future. 488 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:53,730 We need a person I want to break it down because that's part of the issue at the PSC, too, 489 00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:56,910 because a lot of these projects, I mean, they take forever. 490 00:40:56,910 --> 00:41:02,990 The collection system project has morphed for 20 years in my life, I mean, but so it is. 491 00:41:03,310 --> 00:41:07,210 The ones that we're going to have been for now are essentially already being. 492 00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:12,730 Money's being spent, we're already about to have a project budget for it all the time with the resolutions. 493 00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:24,630 We want to face this into what is currently in progress and what is needed in the near future out and get a better time on. 494 00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:27,430 because that's what you'll need for this capacity and pretty much. 495 00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:32,530 What I'd like to see is some structure to this because if we had mentioned back in March, 496 00:41:32,530 --> 00:41:38,250 I guess March April that we wanted to have a capacity improvement plan ready and tuned. 497 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:42,030 So now it's August. I know there's been a lot going on. 498 00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:42,850 Yeah, we lost. 499 00:41:43,490 --> 00:41:51,150 But I want to make sure that we're moving forward and that the board is involved with a timeline and seeing it move forward. 500 00:41:51,150 --> 00:41:57,390 So I would wonder if Mr. Pearson would consider a friendly amendment to the motion requiring 501 00:41:58,310 --> 00:42:00,050 two word of sessions. 502 00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:00,790 Whatever. 503 00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:02,630 That's basically what my motion was. 504 00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:04,910 What do we need to do is what my motion says? 505 00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:12,170 And with that time limit of a complete and a completed draft CIP from Word Approval 506 00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:13,670 by the first meeting of November. 507 00:42:14,510 --> 00:42:15,330 Is that possible? 508 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,380 I mean, yeah. 509 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:19,900 I think so. 510 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,580 I mean. 511 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:30,600 Let me just speak frankly here, let me just speak frankly here, so an April kind of alluded to this already. 512 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:38,860 So, our water projects were developed with eBerry and together with our water model. 513 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:50,980 Our wastewater projects were developed with RKNK and kind of together with the 2023 or 2022 collection project. 514 00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:55,260 And, but our consulting engineers, Guindance and Informant. 515 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,560 You know, we don't have regular communication and collaboration with Dubai. 516 00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:07,860 RKNK has shown us not just on the collection project but on numerous projects that 517 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:16,980 For lack, you know, just the easiest way to say this is that we can't depend on a lot of the work they did. 518 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:29,100 Unfortunately, and in fact, our consulting engineer probably has spent more time fixing those than it would have taken him to originally design it. 519 00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:42,500 And so, what we have, to me, is not for one, not a comprehensive capital improvement program view for you guys to see. 520 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,540 And it's not properly prioritized. 521 00:43:47,220 --> 00:43:53,120 It needs, it probably needs a lot of updating, like April said, our staff has been doing a lot of work. 522 00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,540 others, you know, that all needs to then be plugged into the models, you know, again, not 523 00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:02,520 properly prioritized. 524 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:14,760 And then, you know, the capital plan we have now is not properly PSC facing in terms of our 525 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,460 Sith, right? 526 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:21,920 I think it's, is it six years April that technically our Sith can be based on, like over the 527 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,460 six years of capital projects is is is more right but in our defense it I think we've finished two and eight years 528 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:33,220 No, that's part of the reason why this is bad and that's absolutely 529 00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:37,160 Stuffed around because the timing for us to get anything done is it's true 530 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,100 I think that's why they're baiting and I completely agree that has a lot to do with our own internal processes too 531 00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:47,680 But it should also inform the way we design these projects, right? 532 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:57,660 They need to be much more comprehensive than they are, they need to be designed to fit into this six-year window, because otherwise we are not. 533 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,060 Question years to narrow down, I asked this once before we just get a little bit more specific. Back in the napkin light, all of these projects, the distribution system elements that might be set eligible, are they going to total $20 million? 534 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:26,200 Well right now, all I have allocated is like right, the ones that are about to go out to bid, they're being fully funded by those accounts. 535 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,940 And I already have. 536 00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:29,680 And none of those are going to be part of our 537 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,080 care capital movements plan, not for Sith purposes. 538 00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:37,920 Well, yeah, for Sith purposes, you're going to have to take a... 539 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,660 We're going to have to take a chunk of the sewer out because, well, 540 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:52,840 and some of the waters, you'll have to clarify if we have well over $20 million cash in there. 541 00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:54,620 So I think that is part of the problem. 542 00:45:54,620 --> 00:45:57,420 Well, that's not a problem. That's an advantage. 543 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:10,540 Well, it's allocating to these projects, but then putting these projects into, that's why I had suggested first the sections of, like, the construction work and progress, how they're funded. 544 00:46:11,380 --> 00:46:24,600 And then the ones that are planned in a proper priority and, like, the... 545 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,940 be considered part of our set of planning in the future, right, because we're a part of our reality. 546 00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:35,320 Right, I think Chris's point, though, is that we have nine open projects or 10, and now we've 547 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:44,520 added some of itself, Jefferson, and this is a lot, and so we're trying to be reasonable about when 548 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:52,200 these future projects. We do have, everyone's easy to agree, a wastewater plant, out of the water 549 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,300 land that are going to cost us somewhere around $55, $60,000 a piece. 550 00:46:57,940 --> 00:46:59,660 Like the latest is $50 million. 551 00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:05,080 It's $50 million, and he said he is still confident in that. 552 00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:10,380 We have spent quite a bit of money on the wastewater one already. 553 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:18,580 Because I'm not really, I mean, I think we're collecting still. 554 00:47:20,380 --> 00:47:27,780 It can say, I mean, it comes in all the time for sewer, water, not so much, but we're not spending that water. 555 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:47,980 We've found, as a board, we need to be able to assure our customers that we're not subsidizing equipment that's going to be required for custody of growth, because we're not forcing them to pay for a plant that's going to be required by the growth. 556 00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:53,240 growth has to pay for growth. In order to do that, we have to have a capital improvements planning. 557 00:47:54,300 --> 00:48:01,140 So, I know it won't be perfect. To get perfect, we're going to need models that are more scientific than what we have available right now. 558 00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:10,180 So, I think that once again, we're looking at August of 2020's, you know, 2020's, 2020's, where we will be doing another 559 00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:25,960 We have evaluations, and hopefully for that one we will have more scientific data, but we need to do one now within the next few months to protect our rate payers against what we already know we have to spend over a hundred million dollars. 560 00:48:27,140 --> 00:48:30,600 But that was that in the case of plants? 561 00:48:32,860 --> 00:48:34,300 They were in the last evaluation. 562 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:37,440 But the percentages were possibly not correct. 563 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,680 So the first was going to change. 564 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,760 And the inflation was certain not correct. 565 00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:43,920 As inflation is increased this year, 566 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,560 it's going to be a problem that it was a year. 567 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,120 I think that could just break out the work in progress, 568 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,040 what's funded. 569 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,600 And then Chris could work with you and the board on the 570 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,740 extras, the grades and the problem. 571 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:56,220 Yeah. 572 00:48:56,780 --> 00:48:57,960 I want to just do it that way. 573 00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,740 For this year, yeah. 574 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,380 For this year, yeah. 575 00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:10,780 This part we need to get behind on the finance pretty heavily. 576 00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:12,120 So we're going to work this year. 577 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,220 We're going to write analysis and another professor. 578 00:49:14,420 --> 00:49:15,460 We're going to write analysis. 579 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,500 I mean, I have to get start working on the audit. 580 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,920 So I can put the work in progress. 581 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,620 So you all have a financial piece. 582 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,840 And then you can revisit growth percentages with curse. 583 00:49:28,940 --> 00:49:32,420 I don't know how much time I'll have in the next month or so today. 584 00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:34,020 All right, guys, I just see. 585 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:42,580 You know, our organization is we have the information we have now, get it into a CIP 586 00:49:42,580 --> 00:49:47,300 because that's what we need to be doing as a utility to be, you know, as due diligence. 587 00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:57,440 And then develop the next SIF and then really work on developing a much more comprehensive plan 588 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,860 for F127. 589 00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:00,000 that I would love to- 590 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,660 You're able to do that in coordination with PSC staff, so that they know what plan you're working on. 591 00:50:07,060 --> 00:50:14,240 Yep. So if we can reach out to them and see if they be willing to have a meeting with us in September or a work session, where we can review the draft to the IP. 592 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,800 We can target the second meeting. 593 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,160 Or you want to do a workshop, right? 594 00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:24,000 So, yeah. 595 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,960 If we can get something scheduled. 596 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:26,540 If we can get something scheduled. 597 00:50:27,820 --> 00:50:30,240 I will reach out to PSM. 598 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:38,250 I went to general question, at what point do you feel like with the utility that we need 599 00:50:38,250 --> 00:50:45,630 to be perhaps hiring our own engineer so that we have a coordination between all of things. 600 00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:51,410 So we're not peace-mealing it with different engineers that we contract with and what about 601 00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:53,350 adding the count as well. 602 00:50:54,570 --> 00:51:01,050 So the engineers and the count is usually have to have an independent stamped thing, you're 603 00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:07,370 I'm not going to be able to hire an engineer to fully design things, but that's true. 604 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:11,510 And it is very possible that you will have to hire an accounting firm to start helping 605 00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:15,870 with the finance, because I don't see a... 606 00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:16,690 We already have... 607 00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:19,070 We can work you any harder I don't think. 608 00:51:19,070 --> 00:51:19,490 I don't think so. 609 00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:21,790 Yeah, I think I'm pretty... I'm pretty... 610 00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:25,530 But I mean, we're also working on an organizational... 611 00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:29,650 We're doing a re-work kind of in the background here. 612 00:51:29,650 --> 00:51:35,990 And part of that is to address AFL's workload and provide her some better support. 613 00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:38,170 So we are working on that. 614 00:51:38,170 --> 00:51:43,870 And then regarding having an in-house engineer, we're addressing that actively with Chris 615 00:51:43,870 --> 00:51:50,330 second room too, the idea of housing art on models, updating and housing our models with 616 00:51:50,330 --> 00:51:58,050 when doffs and them being our consulting engineers, engineer and fine, seems to me the way 617 00:51:58,050 --> 00:52:01,870 to get, you know, to, I don't know. 618 00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:09,490 And we have staff to, that can keep these models, we can keep the engineer updated all the time, 619 00:52:09,590 --> 00:52:13,050 but we're going to have to hire additional staff to do that. 620 00:52:13,590 --> 00:52:20,310 So, you know, this, the CIP was like, because we have the project budgets and we have, you 621 00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:26,190 that we were working on at the time with board, and you have your outlook of the future. 622 00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:34,530 It just wasn't so heavily done, so I'd suggest it maybe be a part of your own type of... 623 00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:41,030 We talked to Chris about this too, for during our CIP meeting, and the reporting we have to 624 00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:48,550 provide is just needs to be a procedural thing, a formalized thing for us, as part of development 625 00:52:48,550 --> 00:52:56,190 or as part of any repair and replacement program, or any capital program that doesn't have anything 626 00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:01,490 to do with development. Really all they need is, you know, new EDUs or what infrastructure 627 00:53:01,490 --> 00:53:08,650 was installed, or it's not the most detailed process in terms of reporting that to them, 628 00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:14,710 but you do have to keep these models updated. It'll ideally, you know, if we put that together 629 00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:17,770 over the next year, it will relieve some distress from April, 630 00:53:18,130 --> 00:53:20,550 because it will have a process in place 631 00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:24,210 with a model that provides mathematical information 632 00:53:24,210 --> 00:53:26,170 about future requirements. 633 00:53:26,830 --> 00:53:29,550 And we won't be looking at April just, yes. 634 00:53:29,770 --> 00:53:33,170 To me, it's going to make the CIP process a heck of a lot easier. 635 00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:34,090 I have to be honest. 636 00:53:34,370 --> 00:53:36,650 For sure, I'm just curious if I'm going to consider it. 637 00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:38,710 No, not for this, but I will not. 638 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:40,050 I'm almost put a date on it. 639 00:53:40,270 --> 00:53:40,330 All right. 640 00:53:40,990 --> 00:53:41,330 All right. 641 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:42,610 It's got for any time. 642 00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:43,250 I'm out there. 643 00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:48,450 The other one has to for is, hopefully, I'll start it, but no, because we've got 644 00:53:48,450 --> 00:53:48,710 sorry. 645 00:53:49,010 --> 00:53:49,210 All right. 646 00:53:49,310 --> 00:53:54,470 So we have a motion on the table, and the call for vote. 647 00:53:56,010 --> 00:53:58,610 And the motion, again, just to, the motion. 648 00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:59,630 The motion. 649 00:53:59,630 --> 00:54:03,370 We do not have, this is a gender identity. 650 00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:04,910 We've got all the data together. 651 00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:07,310 We've got some of the front of us that we can vote on. 652 00:54:07,850 --> 00:54:10,030 And that means we have to have three workshops prior to that. 653 00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:11,230 That's what we need to do. 654 00:54:11,230 --> 00:54:13,090 I won't be voting against that. 655 00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:19,890 I do support the idea of having the workshops, I think, if we could do a friendly 656 00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:20,710 minute to that. 657 00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:24,350 So that the, the, the workshop language is in there. 658 00:54:24,610 --> 00:54:25,810 I don't know if it's worth it. 659 00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:29,130 Well, if we vote this for down, we can get another, another motion on the game. 660 00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:33,070 But I, I include the workshops because I think we do need it. 661 00:54:33,070 --> 00:54:33,590 I'm most interested. 662 00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:34,670 Include to do because. 663 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:36,090 It has a friendly amendment. 664 00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:40,710 You would consider workshops in September and an invitation to the public service 665 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:44,930 Yes, it's workshops, but I'm not putting the hope we've got to do that on the ground. 666 00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:52,350 So then the notion is that we postpone our discussion of the capital improvements program, 667 00:54:53,330 --> 00:54:57,990 until we have workshops to be scheduled in September with an invitation to the public service. 668 00:54:58,250 --> 00:54:59,950 It's great, and hopefully by now. 669 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,960 Remember, we have some of the questions. Why didn't you accept that? Yes, I accept that. 670 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,760 So all in favor? Aye. 671 00:55:09,390 --> 00:55:10,070 Aye. Yes. 672 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,300 Fill the law into new business. 673 00:55:18,980 --> 00:55:18,980 Aye. 674 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:28,140 For a collection system project, resolution number 37, CIF number 29, payment application number 7. 675 00:55:33,310 --> 00:55:39,970 This is pay application number 17. There is a, 676 00:55:40,890 --> 00:55:44,030 We're trying to get this project finished, 677 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,760 look forward to then the next, they give you a better time. 678 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,000 Yes, that would be good. 679 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,420 A little over month. 680 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,600 You'll give or take how there are some upcoming change orders. 681 00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:08,230 But remember, Chris did not design this project, so that's number one. 682 00:56:08,430 --> 00:56:10,690 Two of this project is more for years. 683 00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:12,990 So I mean, I think there were a few issues. 684 00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:15,030 He'll go over what they are because I am, so I don't know. 685 00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:17,370 He just said that there were some coming up. 686 00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:20,630 We're working with the funding agency on the amounts. 687 00:56:22,410 --> 00:56:25,690 Just because one of the change orders that you just 688 00:56:25,690 --> 00:56:29,730 approved, that would be for the, that I'll have to write them 689 00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:33,410 almost all the content, we only had 300,000 in the contingency. 690 00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:39,190 We had a $500,000 grant that the 300 was in the contingency. 691 00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:44,810 We're working with him on that, and then he'll have something finalized for the board next 692 00:56:44,810 --> 00:56:45,390 meeting. 693 00:56:46,010 --> 00:56:50,910 And then I'm hoping he's hoping the bulk of all of it will be on that payout, and then we'll 694 00:56:50,910 --> 00:56:58,890 have some punch list items, and then hopefully he'd this one out of the way, as I maybe 695 00:56:58,890 --> 00:57:08,250 out to, or just all the way to this, I'm hoping, so this is the payout before they've got a significant 696 00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:11,970 in a matter of work done after this came in. 697 00:57:11,970 --> 00:57:17,150 And this is just funded with our, the vaccine and the fee. 698 00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:23,360 And none of the change orders were on this one. 699 00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:25,060 That you have purged it the last meeting. 700 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,960 They haven't built for that yet. 701 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,020 What a couple of later. 702 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:28,980 Yes. 703 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,900 Probably down the next. 704 00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:32,500 Resolution. 705 00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:33,660 Questions? 706 00:57:35,140 --> 00:57:37,800 Not just motion that we approved for resolution on the 37. 707 00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:39,200 I'm sorry, ma'am. 708 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,220 system project. 709 00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:41,340 Discussion? 710 00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:43,040 All in favour? 711 00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:47,290 Aye. 712 00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:47,310 Aye. 713 00:57:47,310 --> 00:57:47,330 Aye. 714 00:57:47,330 --> 00:57:47,510 Aye. 715 00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:47,590 Aye. 716 00:57:47,590 --> 00:57:47,650 Aye. 717 00:57:48,350 --> 00:57:50,210 Collective System Project Resolution. 718 00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:51,070 Number 38. 719 00:57:51,970 --> 00:57:53,150 See, I have number 30. 720 00:57:53,790 --> 00:58:01,010 This is just the GDF bill for the services since the last board meeting. 721 00:58:03,330 --> 00:58:03,990 For the collections. 722 00:58:04,450 --> 00:58:08,310 A motion that we have for the collection is just some project resolution in the 38. 723 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:09,170 Second. 724 00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:16,970 I 725 00:58:19,180 --> 00:58:25,900 don't see quote for spare sledge transfer pump for the gesture at Charles Town and wastewater treatment. 726 00:58:27,580 --> 00:58:36,620 Yeah, we've been addressing kind of the critical redundancies we need at the Charles Town plant and throughout the wastewater department. 727 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:50,200 This is another critical area where a spares very much required and a bottleneck part of treatment at the plant. 728 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,560 You can see in the quote actually the believed time for this particular component is 14 to 16 weeks. 729 00:58:57,540 --> 00:59:03,920 So if we were able to ever lose this pump, which we currently have one of, it would be disastrous. 730 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:05,760 question. 731 00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:13,590 We have motion to accept this in the second. 732 00:59:15,850 --> 00:59:18,610 All the paper capacity 733 00:59:23,090 --> 00:59:23,570 improvement 734 00:59:23,570 --> 00:59:28,550 fee annual reviewed. I would suggest that we take a go back. I want to take a go back. I 735 00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:32,610 make motion. We take less in minute. Second. All in favor. 736 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,120 On the five. Manager reports. Yeah. 737 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:49,120 I wanted to report that I went to the World Water Conference August 10th and 11th. 738 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,180 Cindy introduced me to some members of the PSC. 739 00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:59,300 I'm at chairman of the way. 740 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:13,500 Lay, and thank you. And a few other members of the Board. And our environmental attorney was also present introduced me to a few other people, interesting classes, 741 01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:25,180 and some members of our wastewater department. And maintenance department also attended and went to some classes. It was very nice. 742 01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:32,520 The Department of Commerce annual meeting and business summit is coming up here on the second of fourth. 743 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:50,060 I plan to attend our environmental attorneys also attending also another opportunity to network and meet some important state leaders. 744 01:00:50,060 --> 01:00:55,260 So I will be attending the second through the fourth. 745 01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:02,520 Our renewal, we have provided all the necessary documentation for that. 746 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:07,400 The last I spoke with the Permanent Engineer, you mentioned it. 747 01:01:07,460 --> 01:01:14,940 We would be hearing back in about a month on receiving our Permanent renewal. 748 01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:22,120 I wanted to provide a quick update on the Huntfield service lateral root and curving issue. 749 01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:26,920 You may recall we had some discussions about that a few months ago. 750 01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:32,080 I spoke with some of our staff I provided in your package. 751 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,260 It's kind of a diagram. 752 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:41,700 We've been working through various scenarios and ways to approach this issue. 753 01:01:42,860 --> 01:01:57,980 understanding that, you know, it is a systemic, a systemic issue in that neighborhood that will likely result in more backups and, you know, more excavations, more repairs and how we might be able to proactively address it. 754 01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:08,720 We went out and camored all the ladders in the neighborhood and identified that the root intrusions are actually occurring in just two places. 755 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,520 And that's at that 90 degree drop and at the 22 and a half degree drop. 756 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:24,060 We also met with members of the city's tree board to evaluate the best way to address this issue 757 01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:26,160 and workshops and ideas. 758 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:34,440 Unfortunately, care and place pipe lining isn't going to be an option because of that 90 degree 759 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:44,780 T connection, you can see in your diagram, is it won't be an option, so our next call will be to another vendor, 760 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:56,740 which would require regular removal of roots and treatment with a chemical that, 761 01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:00,610 you know, 762 01:03:00,610 --> 01:03:08,490 that removes the discourages, the work group that's, and we should get some cost figures on 763 01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:14,070 that and find out if it's both operationally and financially viable option. 764 01:03:15,570 --> 01:03:20,530 So, I just wanted to give a quick update there, the, 765 01:03:24,210 --> 01:03:27,590 oh yes, we also, Chris, please speak 766 01:03:27,590 --> 01:03:35,170 up if you'd like to on this topic, we will be meeting with the Department of Health, one of 767 01:03:35,170 --> 01:03:40,430 their environmental engineers, Pat Murphy, to discuss sort of orders where we recently 768 01:03:40,430 --> 01:03:48,130 asked them if we could switch from a zinc-based orthophosphate corrosion inhibitor to a polyphosphate 769 01:03:48,130 --> 01:03:57,930 corrosion inhibitor, the issue, again, with zinc-based is that with pH levels varying due 770 01:03:57,930 --> 01:04:04,310 to our surface water source, when the pH gets a little too high, the zinc in our current 771 01:04:04,310 --> 01:04:13,530 corrosion inhibitor precipitates out and creates this sludge at the, you know, in our distribution 772 01:04:13,530 --> 01:04:22,590 system, particularly in our water storage systems and a big reason why we recently had 773 01:04:22,590 --> 01:04:30,250 the locustil tank drained and emptied out. There was about a foot of sludge in there. And 774 01:04:30,250 --> 01:04:35,670 then also I think there's going to be a bit of a cost saving switching to a polyphosphate. The 775 01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:43,330 only issue I'm hearing is that potentially could create some issues with switching to a polyphosphate 776 01:04:43,330 --> 01:04:51,350 could create some issues with lead and the response that we got from the Department of Health 777 01:04:52,130 --> 01:04:59,990 was that they did not recommend switching and you know due to lead concerns obviously and asked us 778 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,980 To do some preliminary testing before switching. And that if we did switch, they would put us on a more aggressive review schedule. So to kind of work through some of those issues and get a better idea of a path forward. And hopefully get that same checkmark that we're hoping to get from PSE, we're going to meet with this environmental engineer, particularly the one that sent us this letter warning us about a number of questions. 779 01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:38,920 which have him out on September the 8th to meet and discuss this issue. Chris Eckenrodo 780 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:44,380 are consulting engineer where either be there in person or virtually and hopefully we can 781 01:05:44,380 --> 01:05:58,340 work through this issue and find some finality to it. The cyber security is a big concern 782 01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:02,300 now with the attacks in Minnesota. 783 01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:09,260 We have been working our IT manager, slash building manager, 784 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:21,690 has been working to address concerns and address any cyber security weaknesses we have. 785 01:06:21,690 --> 01:06:31,950 We recently met with a local vendor called tech advisors, they provide both cybersecurity 786 01:06:31,950 --> 01:06:39,970 and just basic IT consulting to lots of local municipalities and to, I think, the project 787 01:06:39,970 --> 01:06:40,670 kind of government. 788 01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:51,190 We went and did a walkthrough of our water treatment plant to identify any kind of cybersecurity 789 01:06:51,190 --> 01:07:00,550 issues there. As it turns out though, simplicity and not being up-to-date in terms of the newest 790 01:07:00,550 --> 01:07:02,630 technologies is actually our friend. 791 01:07:04,790 --> 01:07:08,830 And we are not physically connected. Our state of 792 01:07:08,830 --> 01:07:15,890 system is not physically connected to the internet except during very short periods of time 793 01:07:15,890 --> 01:07:18,230 where we are updating that SKA to software. 794 01:07:19,150 --> 01:07:20,850 So we have a physical wire 795 01:07:20,850 --> 01:07:23,050 that we connect to the SKA to computer 796 01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:26,350 and perform those updates. 797 01:07:26,830 --> 01:07:28,510 And then, but, you know, obviously, 798 01:07:28,730 --> 01:07:30,110 they're still room for improvement there. 799 01:07:31,790 --> 01:07:34,990 The one, the wiring at the water treatment plant 800 01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:36,830 is, you know, pretty. 801 01:07:39,050 --> 01:07:41,270 It looks like they've been, 802 01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:44,990 they've had numerous IT upgrades there, 803 01:07:44,990 --> 01:07:53,010 but never properly upgraded or organized all of that wiring, you know, say into an access panel, 804 01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:58,390 that sort of thing. So that needs to happen for future troubleshooting and upgrades. 805 01:08:00,070 --> 01:08:05,650 And then that physical connection probably needs a little bit of security too, and maybe just 806 01:08:05,650 --> 01:08:11,510 in the form of a lock box and proper internal policy. But on the water side, 807 01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:18,830 There is no remote access, in other words, any of our water treatment operators couldn't 808 01:08:18,830 --> 01:08:23,710 get on their phone or anybody over in Iran couldn't get on their computer and turn 809 01:08:23,710 --> 01:08:27,370 a valve or you know, turn off our supply. 810 01:08:28,110 --> 01:08:40,710 That cannot happen and in fact part of our water permit is having an operator on site during 811 01:08:40,710 --> 01:08:48,630 all operations. So, as it is now, we have an operator on site 20 hours out of the day in 10 hour shifts. 812 01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:57,710 And so, you know, even when we even are alarms, don't, when something's not going well, 813 01:08:57,890 --> 01:09:02,050 they don't go to one of our operator's phones because somebody is on side at all times. 814 01:09:02,050 --> 01:09:11,790 So, again, we don't have any cyber weaknesses at the water treatment plant, and we are looking 815 01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:19,470 to, we're requested a quote from tech advisors on the few upgrades that are needed 816 01:09:19,470 --> 01:09:32,030 at the water treatment plant, and also some support that we can, some third part of the 817 01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:38,870 They did provide a quote, and we'll be reviewing that this Friday to discuss at the management 818 01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:41,250 level how we're going to be moving forward there. 819 01:09:41,630 --> 01:09:47,530 And then performing the same analysis at the various other facilities, which will include 820 01:09:47,530 --> 01:09:56,090 creating a complete inventory of all of our IT equipment and cyber security software and hardware 821 01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:59,830 everything, so I'll provide. 822 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,420 Updates, as they become available there, is there any, I know that there's a lot of interest there, is there any questions about any of that stuff. 823 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:15,380 We did have the, on July 29th, we did the utility rate study kick off meeting. 824 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:26,000 It essentially was just a quick discussion of what, you know, we conveyed some of the awards concerns or, or, or goals and, and staffs. 825 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:35,540 And they gave us, you know, a portal to upload all of the respond to all of their data requests. 826 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:48,880 April did meet with our billing manager and provided him with one of those data requests. 827 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,820 And as far as I know he's working on that currently. 828 01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:53,100 How are you doing? 829 01:10:53,100 --> 01:11:02,940 Order done. Wow. Then the Saturday night finished the Lord's part of the Greek West. So I'll be doing a large dump into the water. 830 01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:10,740 Into that file. But what I wanted to do was not make sure some of the sections are completely thin. 831 01:11:10,740 --> 01:11:23,060 But they need to, they're still going to have to analyze that, um, billing data, uh, and just whatever questions they have, or, um, they don't 832 01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:31,220 build part it out by different things than they'll let me know, but some of it I need to try to get, um, they have to 833 01:11:31,220 --> 01:11:39,240 fiscal year 26, Billings, but everything hasn't been pulled together on finance for 26. 834 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,180 But I was able to give them all the budgets. 835 01:11:46,460 --> 01:11:55,640 We had a ton of info from the last capacity of the firm of the analysis and things that we had pulled, 836 01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:04,780 they need historic stuff or, you know, the same things this company need to do is little easier and from the other, you know, 837 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:18,060 class cost in 25 that had to other items. So, we have, I have most of the data pool finished from what came to me, you know, 838 01:12:18,140 --> 01:12:23,820 what's been completed on our side. It will take them a long time to do a good amount of time to go through this, 839 01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:28,780 ledgers and then work with the billing side to see, you know, they have filled 840 01:12:28,780 --> 01:12:32,880 by the part of the multi-meeting users and just different items and... 841 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,980 What would you anticipate, 90A's, 60A's? 842 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:49,540 We have put that and the other issues into the front, you know, as our priority 843 01:12:49,540 --> 01:12:56,980 And then I should be able, if they don't need audited items or PSE reports or anything like that, 844 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,620 I should be able to get it finished by September or October. 845 01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:05,860 My stuff will be to them, but I don't know how long it is. 846 01:13:05,860 --> 01:13:12,160 He said it, they'll do different, they have to get sort of really carefully and then I will ask 847 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:17,060 those questions, but I told them before they prepare a final draft, just kind of wool pull 848 01:13:17,060 --> 01:13:23,360 men with the board and have meetings instead of the consultant given us a report and then 849 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,400 you know, would the seven of them start working with the board once I have, once I've 850 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:33,460 had a chance to analyze and put it all into their templates. We submitted all billing 851 01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:40,240 into Excel in different ledgers, I should be able to dump it right into their model, but 852 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:46,700 there might be some missing pieces of fiscal year 26 that I'll have to get to them. 853 01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:53,820 I probably know I'm working on that the rest of this week we get that finished, and now I will 854 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,120 and then I'll have that see up here for you. 855 01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:05,370 Thank you. 856 01:14:08,020 --> 01:14:09,980 I think people are already provided 857 01:14:09,980 --> 01:14:14,860 it pretty much nothing on the collection system project. I just wanted to share that it's nearing 858 01:14:14,860 --> 01:14:24,640 And so that project has been driving on a little bit, so it's good that it's starting to wrap up. 859 01:14:25,620 --> 01:14:33,140 We did lose somebody actually in the wastewater department, one of our operators, but 860 01:14:33,140 --> 01:14:58,450 We recently hired three new OITs, so, and been working with our chief operator to learn about their progress, and then they just started, I think, last week, but they did need some personal in that department. 861 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:10,430 The building construction for the maintenance building is we'll begin on Monday. 862 01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:21,690 That project is expected to continue into early spring or summer, late spring, early summer, 2027. 863 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:36,220 You know, and one of the things I actually, it's not all there, but I wanted to bring up just because it's becoming more and more of a pervasive issue for us. 864 01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:39,780 is the King's crossing pump station maintenance agreement. 865 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,300 I mean, it is becoming a real headache for staff and 866 01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:47,120 administratively and in the field. 867 01:15:48,460 --> 01:15:52,080 They, you know, they have, I think, able share with me today. 868 01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:54,660 They've got about $38,000 in outstanding 869 01:15:55,220 --> 01:15:57,780 invoices, unpaid inspections. 870 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,860 Now, it's, yes, some inspections. 871 01:16:00,860 --> 01:16:04,740 It's kind of different than the one here used to as two parts. 872 01:16:04,740 --> 01:16:11,670 now the inspections we've got cleared up. But now with this pump station we're 873 01:16:11,670 --> 01:16:14,810 getting there a little different than the other pump station we're getting. In case 874 01:16:14,810 --> 01:16:22,550 for the they check on that pump station it's fine it'll get, it'll get, we'll take over 875 01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:27,090 our ownership once that phase is finished and that one that works fine. This one has been 876 01:16:27,090 --> 01:16:32,970 of our staff is always having to do it on that with the compensation issues, which is why 877 01:16:32,970 --> 01:16:41,590 that we turned into this agreement, which then has turned from me giving off the feelings 878 01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:47,050 of the inspections and then now I've got field staff, we let the God went out there 879 01:16:47,050 --> 01:16:47,730 still. 880 01:16:47,730 --> 01:16:49,210 They do. 881 01:16:49,630 --> 01:16:49,970 We go in. 882 01:16:51,070 --> 01:16:51,190 We go in. 883 01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:51,790 We go in. 884 01:16:52,130 --> 01:16:52,370 Yeah. 885 01:16:52,530 --> 01:17:00,390 They're reimbursing for it when they pay, but it's, I have not paid, I need to pay the vendor. 886 01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:13,210 And at the moment, they don't hate an availability letter, so they're not going to, they need to pay bills because I need to pay them under and don't like the way. 887 01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:22,950 And I'm honestly sick of chasing down him to pay for something, I know it will be ours eventually, that's part of the reason for that agreement. 888 01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:28,570 because our staff didn't want, they were continuously making an issue there. 889 01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:33,970 And we're taking that pump station over, and they wanted to make sure it was properly maintained. 890 01:17:35,310 --> 01:17:40,390 But now it's turning into every single month, all the time. 891 01:17:41,630 --> 01:17:43,930 And so I don't know how we want to... 892 01:17:43,930 --> 01:17:47,310 Well, I reached out last week. 893 01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:59,630 concerned just with the amount of work need to have support provided to DRV just at the administrative level and chasing them for reimbursement. 894 01:18:00,590 --> 01:18:15,850 And so, you know, the recommendation I made and the conversation I've averaged with DRV was, you know, you guys need to contract directly with these third parties, you know, to 895 01:18:15,850 --> 01:18:22,690 rent this pump that you guys need or purchase this part because, you know, us purchasing 896 01:18:22,690 --> 01:18:26,870 it and then, you know, we were just essentially functioning as the middle man. 897 01:18:27,190 --> 01:18:35,950 I mean, it's hard enough just to get our service invoices paid and so I made a call and 898 01:18:35,950 --> 01:18:39,930 followed up with an email, I had not heard back from them about a week, I just reached out 899 01:18:39,930 --> 01:18:47,910 again, and that this is on top of the administrative burden, on top of a longer list of other 900 01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:48,290 issues. 901 01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:55,210 So we've had that what will pump that twice due to construction debris entering the 902 01:18:55,210 --> 01:18:56,250 collection system. 903 01:18:58,330 --> 01:19:05,510 This issue is like ongoing, and is what is creating further downstream issues. 904 01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:11,390 You know, the reason we have a God-win pump, which is essentially an emergency pump there, 905 01:19:12,570 --> 01:19:16,830 to begin with, is because typically there are two pumps down in that wet well. 906 01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:22,570 One of them was damaged and had to be removed and repaired. 907 01:19:23,330 --> 01:19:26,930 And so that God-win had to be brought into function as that's very pump. 908 01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:34,210 And all this construction debris that's ending up in the collection system is what's causing 909 01:19:34,210 --> 01:19:40,650 these repairs and malfunctions, another issue we had upstream of the wet well was a gravity 910 01:19:43,330 --> 01:19:50,530 line failed and had to be replaced, and then of course we had a lot of construction 911 01:19:50,530 --> 01:19:57,050 debris coming at that time too, and one of the pumps in the pump station had to be replaced, 912 01:19:58,270 --> 01:19:59,990 And, and the Godwin was brought in. 913 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:12,000 And, you know, at our administrative level and then had to be supervised by field staff for that. 914 01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:19,040 You know, we're anticipating because of all this construction debris that these pumps won't last long. 915 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:28,120 In fact, they had to jury read one of the pumps to function without moisture failure relays 916 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,640 because it wouldn't have operated at the West. 917 01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:38,620 But doing that, you're risking having to buy a brand new pump because you'll get moisture 918 01:20:38,620 --> 01:20:46,900 infiltration and the pump will be ruined if they can't shut off due to moisture infiltration. 919 01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:52,820 The overhead light at the pump stations, not working, and we've had three to four sanitary 920 01:20:52,820 --> 01:21:01,020 sewer overflows either at that pump station or upstream of the pump station due to these 921 01:21:01,020 --> 01:21:02,780 regular deputy blockages. 922 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:11,240 And so that all compounds creates further administrative burden for April and her staff. 923 01:21:12,460 --> 01:21:14,280 And then we can't even get paid properly. 924 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,580 And it's like we're getting very close to the point where I would recommend that we would 925 01:21:18,580 --> 01:21:21,520 probably just remove ourselves from this agreement. 926 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,460 And then when it comes time to accept this, 927 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,020 being very careful about what we will be accepting. 928 01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:38,400 Certainly it's turned into a real nightmare that we just don't need. 929 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,660 I see them calling our stuff anyway. 930 01:21:41,660 --> 01:21:45,820 You know, and that I think is what prompted the agreement, 931 01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:49,410 but and I don't know what has 932 01:21:49,410 --> 01:21:50,410 been said. 933 01:21:52,190 --> 01:21:57,130 Um, I think there were something with the warranties, there's a lot of moving parts on 934 01:21:57,130 --> 01:21:58,350 this one. 935 01:21:58,350 --> 01:22:05,690 Um, is why our staff took over, was, you know, we don't pay the cost for this. 936 01:22:06,170 --> 01:22:10,130 Um, there's this to pay it, but we had an attorney review in the agreement. 937 01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:15,770 But I don't know after this one. 938 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:18,630 I don't think this was kind of recent. 939 01:22:19,810 --> 01:22:26,130 If you can leave the agreement for breach of contract, you have to provide 60 days notice. 940 01:22:29,370 --> 01:22:34,130 I think, you know, I guess my recommendation would be, 941 01:22:34,130 --> 01:22:41,490 We need to communicate with this so we've reached out, expressed how we'd like to move forward, 942 01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:47,170 which is remove administrative staff from as much of the clerical work as we can. 943 01:22:48,210 --> 01:22:52,950 I, you know, you contract separately with STH and separately with Zylum. 944 01:22:53,570 --> 01:22:56,270 We don't need to be the past for these expenses. 945 01:22:56,750 --> 01:22:57,870 That any agreement? 946 01:22:58,370 --> 01:22:59,250 It is. 947 01:22:59,250 --> 01:23:07,150 and I would require a maintenance agreement amendment to do that formally, unless they would like to, 948 01:23:07,150 --> 01:23:08,690 they would agree to do it informally. 949 01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:15,590 And I spelled that out in my last communication with them, 950 01:23:15,670 --> 01:23:21,810 both over the phone and any mail. And again, we haven't heard back on that yet. So, here's some. 951 01:23:21,930 --> 01:23:25,310 I would recommend that you reach out to our attorney, not during this meeting, 952 01:23:25,310 --> 01:23:32,990 There's a lot to discuss during the meeting, but you and April reach out to them and figure out what the legal way is to earn, or maybe it is, and get paid. 953 01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:36,230 It was just a new agreement, dropped agreement, whatever it is. 954 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:37,090 We had an attorney. 955 01:23:37,330 --> 01:23:39,050 We paid those attorneys to make those decisions. 956 01:23:39,190 --> 01:23:42,610 That's my recommendation that you do that. 957 01:23:46,780 --> 01:23:52,240 My thoughts, because when this was brought up that we should take a care of a pump that we didn't. 958 01:23:52,240 --> 01:24:02,540 It wasn't, when everything wasn't Daniel, I was very much against it, because how do you take care of something that's owned by someone else when it's not really yours yet? 959 01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:12,850 And so this kind of outlines the problems with it, so I'm supportive to record person about that as well. 960 01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:19,330 And could this, could this, and keep us from doing this again, not even this again, I hope? 961 01:24:19,330 --> 01:24:24,470 I wouldn't recommend it in the future, at least not the way the agreement is written. 962 01:24:25,210 --> 01:24:33,090 No, and the one, that one was probably written with the similar random issue of the other one that was in the 80's. 963 01:24:33,310 --> 01:24:38,710 Is this something you could, without official motion, the board, reach out to the attorney, 964 01:24:38,890 --> 01:24:42,170 the review, the agreement, and report back in order to our next meeting? 965 01:24:42,530 --> 01:24:45,910 Sure. That's my recommendation. We don't need a motion on that. 966 01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:50,650 I'm sorry, I said listen to it and he knows what's got that and we don't need a motion for something like that. 967 01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:52,130 That's a daily operation. 968 01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:55,190 That sounds like it's been a big headache, I'm sorry. 969 01:24:56,210 --> 01:24:56,390 Yes. 970 01:24:57,130 --> 01:24:58,450 That's something we did before. 971 01:24:58,910 --> 01:24:59,110 Yeah. 972 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:19,300 I wasn't expecting a motion. This was really just for a year of attention to it. I wanted to let you guys know that, you know, what's happening? That's all. Bring your attention to it and keep you updated. And that if staff at the staff level, if we weren't able to resolve it, then that might be a next step. 973 01:25:19,300 --> 01:25:19,660 That's all. 974 01:25:19,860 --> 01:25:23,180 I mean, like, they can get to resolve very quick issues. 975 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:23,840 Yeah. 976 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:24,220 I know. 977 01:25:24,340 --> 01:25:26,080 We know when they meet. 978 01:25:27,340 --> 01:25:29,060 We have a lot of expenses. 979 01:25:29,580 --> 01:25:31,980 And a lot of those expenses are legal expenses. 980 01:25:32,620 --> 01:25:34,420 And I'm sure you understand that. 981 01:25:34,780 --> 01:25:37,240 If we get paid, you have paid for those legal expenses, too. 982 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:38,680 We're by the hour. 983 01:25:38,900 --> 01:25:39,720 By the hour, sir. 984 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:40,880 And yes, sir. 985 01:25:41,020 --> 01:25:42,880 It's worth keeping this sort of thing in mind. 986 01:25:43,060 --> 01:25:44,100 We should send all our agreements. 987 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:44,540 Come on. 988 01:25:44,620 --> 01:25:45,340 What are we going to do? 989 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:46,820 We're going to send all our credit. 990 01:25:46,820 --> 01:25:48,740 Yeah, that's right. 991 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,140 Yeah, River Point was fine, because it was an odd situation. 992 01:25:53,440 --> 01:26:02,000 This one, they've had issues with this pump station from day one in the 8th, the preference 993 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,200 of them. 994 01:26:03,260 --> 01:26:08,660 People kept calling us to help us, because the issues were over what holidays, what was that 995 01:26:08,660 --> 01:26:15,020 one holiday we worked at, actually, where we were dealing with other things, and then 996 01:26:15,020 --> 01:26:18,860 That was on the phone with them and had to fix it. 997 01:26:19,060 --> 01:26:20,100 I mean, it was one of the hell. 998 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,160 It's been even before we had a green screen. 999 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,120 Because there's only, there is a point where they'll start 1000 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,120 who wants us to come out there and help. 1001 01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:35,020 It's apparently taking it in the way. 1002 01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:37,480 Yeah, I mean, there's our sewer. 1003 01:26:38,220 --> 01:26:40,760 Well, our building customer. 1004 01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:44,340 So when it's leaking, we're building those customers. 1005 01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:46,760 and they have sewage, seeping out of the conversation, 1006 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,080 it's a little card for us to say, yeah. 1007 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,680 You know, so that's what started this, was that, 1008 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,700 that back, because it was just going there, 1009 01:26:55,700 --> 01:26:57,900 and that kind of is where this downward. 1010 01:26:59,300 --> 01:27:02,400 Yeah, we've had conversations with DEP about this. 1011 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,220 Ultimately, these overflows are the responsibility 1012 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:06,320 of the owner. 1013 01:27:07,380 --> 01:27:11,140 So I understand why it is the expectation of our 1014 01:27:11,140 --> 01:27:13,420 ratepayers that we address it. 1015 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:21,360 And I certainly understand why it made sense to just have a step in and help them through 1016 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,000 this process. 1017 01:27:22,540 --> 01:27:23,360 But you know, 1018 01:27:25,390 --> 01:27:26,910 they're not making it easy. 1019 01:27:27,250 --> 01:27:29,690 And so much bigger. 1020 01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:32,470 Yeah, more on the benefits before. 1021 01:27:33,370 --> 01:27:40,990 The last thing was, you know, we did a, I heard from West Virginia American Water through 1022 01:27:40,990 --> 01:27:45,210 their external affairs specialist and through Western Virginia 1023 01:27:45,210 --> 01:27:49,330 and American waters, President, President Wyman, 1024 01:27:51,070 --> 01:27:56,610 and they expressed interest in coming out and having a meeting 1025 01:27:56,610 --> 01:27:59,610 to discuss how we can work more effectively together 1026 01:27:59,610 --> 01:28:00,870 operationally. 1027 01:28:01,750 --> 01:28:06,430 And staff brought up that the last meeting we had, 1028 01:28:06,430 --> 01:28:15,370 public meeting, we had with them resulted in an offer for purchase, and so I do not want 1029 01:28:15,370 --> 01:28:24,050 to let that, certainly not. So I did make it clear to both the External Affairs Specialist 1030 01:28:24,050 --> 01:28:33,450 and President Wyman that we would not be entertaining any purchase offers at this meeting or 1031 01:28:33,450 --> 01:28:42,070 any business that properly required the attention and decision-making of the board at a public 1032 01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:50,270 meeting, and they clarified that no, this is just a warning to come out and discuss 1033 01:28:50,270 --> 01:28:56,150 how we can better collaborate for providing services to our shared customers. 1034 01:28:57,030 --> 01:29:01,190 So meeting with them toward the President want to come for that. 1035 01:29:01,210 --> 01:29:04,050 For the record, they said that last time, 1036 01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:05,990 and the put staff in a bad position, 1037 01:29:06,370 --> 01:29:10,610 so you might want to put somebody in my board member in the room. 1038 01:29:11,850 --> 01:29:14,790 Or, or do you have a witness to it? 1039 01:29:15,070 --> 01:29:18,590 I mean, we had actually the mayor in the last time, 1040 01:29:18,750 --> 01:29:21,150 and it just went south 40 minutes in. 1041 01:29:21,490 --> 01:29:24,150 So I don't maybe email him. 1042 01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:32,490 If they were to bring up anything that was in proper time. 1043 01:29:33,090 --> 01:29:34,170 Is it appropriate? 1044 01:29:34,730 --> 01:29:36,070 We can't find this on the agenda. 1045 01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:37,670 I'll just... 1046 01:29:37,670 --> 01:29:39,310 This is it given his report. 1047 01:29:39,670 --> 01:29:39,950 Is that it? 1048 01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:42,030 The report is discussing it now. 1049 01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:43,410 So I just wanted to. 1050 01:29:43,450 --> 01:29:46,230 He just informed us that they requested a meeting. 1051 01:29:46,490 --> 01:29:46,930 So all we did. 1052 01:29:47,390 --> 01:29:49,270 Yeah, this just happened this week. 1053 01:29:49,630 --> 01:29:51,150 So I didn't have time to add it to the... 1054 01:29:52,230 --> 01:29:54,890 So the question is, is there a meeting scheduled? 1055 01:29:55,770 --> 01:29:56,530 Yes, for tomorrow. 1056 01:29:58,510 --> 01:29:59,870 And you know, it's the meeting. 1057 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,240 Thus veer into anything in a program. I was just, I was just on the meeting. 1058 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,400 Or what is the state of the public system? 1059 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:15,580 The state of the purpose by them was to discuss ways to communicate and work together to better 1060 01:30:15,580 --> 01:30:19,640 provide services to our shared customers. IE, there are water customers, how are 1061 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:20,400 the waste water customers? 1062 01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:21,440 What is that in the view? 1063 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,720 Tomorrow at 4 or 30. 1064 01:30:28,890 --> 01:30:30,810 It's just a staff level meeting. 1065 01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:34,650 I have dated the next meeting, if you 1066 01:30:36,730 --> 01:30:36,810 want. 1067 01:30:38,910 --> 01:30:41,310 I don't feel uncomfortable with it. 1068 01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:42,150 Yeah. 1069 01:30:42,690 --> 01:30:43,050 I did. 1070 01:30:44,330 --> 01:30:44,670 Yeah. 1071 01:30:44,710 --> 01:30:44,850 Absolutely. 1072 01:30:45,950 --> 01:30:46,410 Question. 1073 01:30:48,430 --> 01:30:49,690 Where did my comments go? 1074 01:30:50,810 --> 01:30:54,190 I've got no problem with you all meeting with them. 1075 01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:55,270 I trust you did. 1076 01:30:55,650 --> 01:30:56,870 Nothing bad is going to happen. 1077 01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:57,410 That's meeting. 1078 01:30:57,670 --> 01:31:00,070 But just the old saying is we've got two ears on one mouth. 1079 01:31:00,710 --> 01:31:01,570 Should be in that report. 1080 01:31:01,910 --> 01:31:02,590 Your participation. 1081 01:31:05,010 --> 01:31:08,210 Very good. Very wise. That's a fun, a simple question. 1082 01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:13,850 So, uh, as integral to the 1083 01:31:13,850 --> 01:31:17,770 manager's book, that concludes my report. Very good. Thank you very much. We'll go on 1084 01:31:17,770 --> 01:31:25,110 then to the Chairman's report and as a substitute Chairman only, I have a report. We'll 1085 01:31:25,110 --> 01:31:29,570 go on to approval or no, our engineering report, which is very important. 1086 01:31:37,070 --> 01:31:45,210 I'll try to make it short and sweet, I'm going to pull top stone those to my project, 1087 01:31:50,010 --> 01:31:59,030 so I will 1088 01:31:59,030 --> 01:32:04,090 And first, I would like to do the remembering fact, completed the three-month Hollis Study 1089 01:32:04,090 --> 01:32:05,550 Cycle last week. 1090 01:32:06,250 --> 01:32:12,430 Their system has been removed and replaced by AOP and SinR, which would be the pilot 1091 01:32:12,430 --> 01:32:14,710 number two for the membrane side. 1092 01:32:15,070 --> 01:32:18,270 That startup is going to happen this week, because I'm going this week. 1093 01:32:18,670 --> 01:32:22,930 As far as the water, quality sampling from the certified lab, I started to dig through some 1094 01:32:22,930 --> 01:32:23,930 of that today. 1095 01:32:23,930 --> 01:32:29,610 The pilot study has been functioning as I planned, as expected. 1096 01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:32,150 The chemical cleanings are doing well. 1097 01:32:32,690 --> 01:32:37,810 The trans membrane pressures on the membrane system have not been getting 1098 01:32:37,810 --> 01:32:39,970 excessively high, which is a good thing. 1099 01:32:40,730 --> 01:32:45,030 The turbidities on the filtrate side of the membrane have been 1100 01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:49,810 excellent about 0.2 NTU, which is what I would expect. 1101 01:32:49,810 --> 01:33:01,890 the GAC system is removing actually the first month that was removing almost 85% of the TFC of the 1102 01:33:01,890 --> 01:33:09,250 feed water which was excellent. It has become a little bit saturated and not completely exhausted yet. 1103 01:33:09,690 --> 01:33:15,710 So the GAC system has been running about four months treating the filtered water that comes to 1104 01:33:15,710 --> 01:33:22,090 But one thing I did notice is that your existing plant does not do a very good job at all 1105 01:33:22,090 --> 01:33:26,550 of removing TUSC based on the water quality results that I'm seeing. 1106 01:33:26,830 --> 01:33:31,870 Which is kind of expected with a shorter set basin with plate settlers, but that's just 1107 01:33:31,870 --> 01:33:34,090 confirms why I don't like plate settlers. 1108 01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:38,450 So yeah, I think the positive is going very well. 1109 01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:43,630 Exactly what I expected I've done this ten times and the numbers look great. 1110 01:33:44,490 --> 01:33:44,630 Great. 1111 01:33:44,630 --> 01:33:47,330 questions on the file of some questions. 1112 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,920 Next topic is look as Tills tank cleaning and 1113 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,480 read that we can take that one off the list because it's complete. 1114 01:34:01,270 --> 01:34:02,030 The corrosion 1115 01:34:02,030 --> 01:34:05,930 inhibitor change is not going to dwell on that. We have a meeting I actually talked to 1116 01:34:05,930 --> 01:34:10,830 Pat at West Virginia World Water Conference and explained in here why I wanted to make 1117 01:34:10,830 --> 01:34:14,630 the switch and that I switched over Berkeley County and actually he was all here. 1118 01:34:14,630 --> 01:34:21,330 she was very receiving what I had to say, realized I knew what I was talking about, and I'm 1119 01:34:21,330 --> 01:34:24,850 looking forward to meeting her in person and getting you guys switched. 1120 01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:27,670 What's there any lead risk? 1121 01:34:28,130 --> 01:34:29,410 I mean, there seem to be a worry. 1122 01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:30,330 Not at all. 1123 01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:34,610 I switched eight clients over Berkeley County being one of them. 1124 01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:38,750 It's a non-issue to with this exact same product. 1125 01:34:39,250 --> 01:34:44,190 And Berkeley Water, from your water content Berkeley, it's very, very similar thing. 1126 01:34:44,190 --> 01:34:48,030 The Shenandoah and the Potomac are very, very similar sources for surface water. 1127 01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:53,710 They're high alkalinity, high-bortness, flat-ish sources, this kind of hole, or perfectly. 1128 01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:56,690 So I had no concern about it 1129 01:34:59,600 --> 01:34:59,900 anymore. 1130 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,020 So yeah, that meeting is coming up as Paul stated there with the health department, which I'm looking forward to, the collection system project. The only thing I want to report there, if you get asked as board, all the pump stations are currently being utilized. All of the new pump stations as part of that project are now being utilized. So that was a huge step. That all happened over the last about two months. This chairman. So yeah, that's a huge. 1131 01:35:29,020 --> 01:35:30,420 That was a huge step in the right direction. 1132 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:35,080 So just for what it's worth, the names of the Margez Farm, 1133 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,260 New Slage, Laughland, and Bur East. 1134 01:35:38,660 --> 01:35:40,300 So we certainly are on the home stretch. 1135 01:35:40,420 --> 01:35:43,020 Still dealing with some rock on the left and the forest. 1136 01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,260 And some punchless items, fourth mentioning, too, 1137 01:35:46,380 --> 01:35:49,340 is about $6,000 of retainage on that project, 1138 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:50,640 which will be released. 1139 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,920 5% of that will be released once they 1140 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,200 hit substantial completion. 1141 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,720 I expect them to hit substantial completion 1142 01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,720 within the next 30 days. 1143 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:13,460 The new wastewater treatment plant design, it's going well. 1144 01:36:14,020 --> 01:36:14,580 I apologize. 1145 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,280 I meant to put some drawings that we came up with in the packet. 1146 01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:19,900 I did not do that. 1147 01:36:19,940 --> 01:36:22,700 So I hope that our member for next month. 1148 01:36:23,780 --> 01:36:25,320 The design is going very well. 1149 01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:26,900 The only holdup is the sampling. 1150 01:36:27,700 --> 01:36:29,460 So just a minor report. 1151 01:36:29,700 --> 01:36:31,220 Mr. Maxi on the sampling. 1152 01:36:31,220 --> 01:36:40,280 out in the system, out in the distribution system, we have pretty much calculated that 1153 01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:46,060 pond field is a problem, that pond field definitely has IBOD, we're seeing it with composite 1154 01:36:46,060 --> 01:36:51,560 sampling, we're seeing it with grab sampling, we have really narrowed this down to it's a 1155 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:57,180 pond field, very confident. I mean, flowing springs is a little bit on the high side from 1156 01:36:57,180 --> 01:37:01,640 the O.D. and a motor standpoint, but upon field, which doesn't make any sense, honestly, 1157 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:06,440 because it's all residential for the most part, but something's going on out there, 1158 01:37:06,460 --> 01:37:11,600 and we're really hoping to track it down within the next month or two with this sampling 1159 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:17,940 or when we find it. But yeah, that's the latest. You can't really do much because the entire 1160 01:37:17,940 --> 01:37:26,120 reactors are sized based on the beauty and the ammonia that we use in the calculations period. 1161 01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,680 We have to flow the flows in on issue. 1162 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:35,120 We need to know what to use for the BOD and for the total amount for this new plant design. 1163 01:37:35,620 --> 01:37:40,520 And until we are confident with those numbers, you know, I don't want to give you a cost estimate. 1164 01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:48,140 I don't want to give you a design. I don't want to give you a timeline because to do this right to right size this plant, we need those numbers. 1165 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:54,240 And I think we're very close to, you know, at least finding out where this is coming from. 1166 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:58,080 But it's narrowed down at this point, too, on field and that, on stage. 1167 01:37:59,460 --> 01:38:03,520 Yeah, there's something going on coming in, that's on field for Shidorah. 1168 01:38:06,230 --> 01:38:08,750 And so, the testing is going to be ongoing. 1169 01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:12,030 Probably for two more months, I'd say, through the end of October. 1170 01:38:13,950 --> 01:38:18,610 For this intensive sampling program that we have implemented, which again, 1171 01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:20,490 the operators have been great. 1172 01:38:20,770 --> 01:38:21,870 There's a lot of sampling. 1173 01:38:21,870 --> 01:38:24,310 a lot of coordination, opening up manholes, 1174 01:38:24,410 --> 01:38:27,350 pump stations, they've been great to deal with. 1175 01:38:27,730 --> 01:38:29,170 But this is pretty big. 1176 01:38:29,390 --> 01:38:32,690 And we're hoping to find a great to find the exact source 1177 01:38:32,690 --> 01:38:36,430 of this high B of D, and I am going to at least narrow it 1178 01:38:36,430 --> 01:38:40,150 down to maybe a couple of streets or manholes 1179 01:38:40,150 --> 01:38:42,330 or something, but I think we're getting closer. 1180 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,320 I guess you heard earlier in the meeting, 1181 01:38:49,660 --> 01:38:52,200 we post code to decisions on a subdivision. 1182 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,580 that we'll be using that same home station. 1183 01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:58,540 Yeah, that was upon my review, actually, 1184 01:38:59,460 --> 01:39:02,380 which I think we have a way around, like concerned, 1185 01:39:02,940 --> 01:39:04,200 in talking to the Travis Marfley, 1186 01:39:05,300 --> 01:39:07,400 who knows your system, you know, better than anybody, 1187 01:39:07,940 --> 01:39:10,280 but him and I need to have a further conversation 1188 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,940 to make sure that it's not a capacity concern, 1189 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,260 but the developer was proposing to tie 1190 01:39:16,260 --> 01:39:18,720 into the existing six inch force main, 1191 01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:20,660 and there's no way we can do that. 1192 01:39:20,660 --> 01:39:25,780 that is not, why do you not want that to happen so, but apparently there are parallel 1193 01:39:25,780 --> 01:39:30,420 force maids that we're not using, which we could use, because they were put in there 1194 01:39:30,420 --> 01:39:36,500 potentially for future development, so I don't want to get into that, but yeah, when I saw 1195 01:39:36,500 --> 01:39:40,380 that, it was a red flag, so I just kind of put that on board for now. 1196 01:39:41,580 --> 01:39:43,200 But sounds like it might be the future. 1197 01:39:45,500 --> 01:39:45,520 Yeah. 1198 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,820 The future is now about it. 1199 01:39:49,820 --> 01:39:52,280 to follow up on the wastewater treatment plant 1200 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,140 and the FEMA or the Letter of Map revision 1201 01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:56,960 or the floodplain issue. 1202 01:39:57,460 --> 01:39:59,960 Essentially, here's what my... 1203 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,100 Flood fleeting, coordinator said, I didn't mention you that doesn't. He's been doing it long as I haven't owe he does. He's had for us, floodplain, stormwater management. 1204 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:19,660 He reported that until we get this facility laid out to 80% design. We have got to know what proposed grade is going to be. 1205 01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:29,860 We got to know how big all these new structures are going to be. The reactors are one of them, the clarifiers, the UV building, the digesters, the centrifuge building, the control building, the headworks. 1206 01:40:29,860 --> 01:40:33,960 All those need place on site plan with proposed grading. 1207 01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:41,560 At that time, he can run a head brass model at pre-conditions and post-conditions. 1208 01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:46,060 He does believe that the flood claim that the image showing will be increased. 1209 01:40:46,820 --> 01:40:51,300 So that will require a call of a clover. 1210 01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:57,000 That's saying conditional letters map provision through FEMA, which we've done. 1211 01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:01,740 But that will be required given where your site is at, 1212 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,020 because you're in the entire site, 1213 01:41:03,140 --> 01:41:04,420 essentially, in the height of your floodplain. 1214 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,080 Yeah, again, we can't take this any further, 1215 01:41:07,860 --> 01:41:10,480 until we get the reactors and the clarifier size, 1216 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,360 which is all dependent on this sampling. 1217 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,520 So for the short term, we should consider the possibility 1218 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,440 that we may need new velocity. 1219 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,200 I'm sorry, I do want that if you're there. 1220 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,120 We may need a new plant location. 1221 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,520 we don't doubt until we get this finalized. 1222 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:32,420 Now, he's pretty confident that the letter of mapperagation, 1223 01:41:32,700 --> 01:41:35,180 but the FEMA floodplain that currently shown on site 1224 01:41:35,180 --> 01:41:37,640 is so far off that it's not going to be initial. 1225 01:41:40,890 --> 01:41:44,890 So he's done, I count on him to give me this information 1226 01:41:44,890 --> 01:41:46,470 because he's done this all a lot. 1227 01:41:47,310 --> 01:41:50,070 So basically FEMA, they take a higher floodplain 1228 01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:51,830 and they just throw on a map. 1229 01:41:52,730 --> 01:41:56,610 They don't really follow contours and shot grades per se. 1230 01:41:56,610 --> 01:42:02,990 And so sometimes those, the actual hundred-year floodplain is not correct, he thinks the 1231 01:42:02,990 --> 01:42:08,850 covered area on the current floodplain is excessive that they're showing, and it's not 1232 01:42:08,850 --> 01:42:14,810 accurate, which he's probably right given how wide that downstream area that it stretches 1233 01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:20,590 down by the bank, because it gets very wide down there. And that's not implemented on the theme 1234 01:42:20,590 --> 01:42:27,750 to show those contours. So he believes that, yes, we'll have the proposed buildings intact 1235 01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:32,770 with a manager flooded. Yes, more than the point-one inches that you're allowed. However, 1236 01:42:33,310 --> 01:42:37,530 there's a way around this. And that's a letter that we've stated that FEMA basically has the 1237 01:42:37,530 --> 01:42:43,870 wrong hundred year flood plant on their drawings. So you have a fairly high degree of confidence 1238 01:42:43,870 --> 01:42:49,450 that we can cite in the plant at the current location. I do, because we've done this before. 1239 01:42:53,710 --> 01:42:54,310 So 1240 01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,740 that's the wastewater treatment plant design. 1241 01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:00,580 Tuscill oil is ongoing. 1242 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,380 We finally got drawings from the membrane manufacture. 1243 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:05,960 We are working on this week. 1244 01:43:06,740 --> 01:43:10,640 I see no reason why that project cannot be put out to fit this fall 1245 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:11,480 as scheduled. 1246 01:43:11,980 --> 01:43:13,480 So I believe we're on that schedule. 1247 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:15,480 The new maintenance building, 1248 01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:21,660 Paul touched on, pre-construction meeting was held on August 14th, I believe, for minutes 1249 01:43:21,660 --> 01:43:27,080 for that meeting, or in your board packet, to contract a plan to mobilize this week or 1250 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,300 next at the latest, and that is approximately a one-year duration of process. 1251 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,320 Questions on that? 1252 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:35,300 Questions? 1253 01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:38,470 Thank you. 1254 01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:46,330 The next is Greenfield Forzmay, this was received today, the 2024 cost estimate was 1.2 1255 01:43:46,330 --> 01:43:57,670 I believe the bid of the Arcane K-Project was right around 1.1 million in 2020 to 2023, don't quote me on that. 1256 01:43:58,150 --> 01:44:04,570 By 2024 estimate was 1.2 million. However, that did not include, obviously, two years worth of inflation. 1257 01:44:06,190 --> 01:44:11,450 But a property owner did not want us to open cut the portion of the 8-inch force name. 1258 01:44:11,450 --> 01:44:18,710 So we had to horizontal directionally drill about 400 feet of plankton that area. 1259 01:44:19,670 --> 01:44:27,270 On the low bid that particular low bid contractor bid that worth $593 a foot. 1260 01:44:28,210 --> 01:44:35,330 So that was about $200,000 worth of uninticipated cost because of a design change. 1261 01:44:36,290 --> 01:44:40,990 The last thing I will add was there was a rock excavation 1262 01:44:40,990 --> 01:44:48,570 flaws that we added, that the contractors asked that we add. Basically, we said, as soon 1263 01:44:48,570 --> 01:44:52,590 that there's going to be 500 cubic yards of Roth for removal was part of the project. 1264 01:44:52,590 --> 01:44:59,790 So the low beat came in today of Schneider-Vominal Services, it was one. 1265 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:12,580 1897,430 dollars. I was hoping it was going to be over at 1.6 to 1.7. If I'm being honest, it was 1.89. 1266 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:25,720 I believe the second 1267 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,480 that the efficient cost estimate. 1268 01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:31,520 So yeah, that was we just caught off the press. 1269 01:45:31,780 --> 01:45:34,480 That was the bid contractor, Schneider Environmental Services, 1270 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,920 the Apparent Love, and did repeat that didn't happen. 1271 01:45:38,140 --> 01:45:43,400 I just seemed like they had everything that was required to submit the bid. 1272 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:47,660 All the occasions obviously they had, because they've done a lot of work for us in the past. 1273 01:45:49,460 --> 01:45:53,780 So my plan there is to issue a recommendation by our two to board, 1274 01:45:53,780 --> 01:45:57,180 to award that contract for next season. 1275 01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,760 The Asbury Church Area Assume Replacement Project 1276 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,940 for still waiting on that easement. 1277 01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:08,360 Once we've received that project, 1278 01:46:08,440 --> 01:46:10,500 we'll go out to the bit of blowing the springs 1279 01:46:10,500 --> 01:46:11,220 pump station. 1280 01:46:11,420 --> 01:46:14,360 We did receive the Bureau of Public Health Construction 1281 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:14,980 permit. 1282 01:46:15,580 --> 01:46:18,100 That designs considered 98% complete 1283 01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:23,540 and it is on Hall's desk with Travis and Colin. 1284 01:46:25,220 --> 01:46:27,420 And one of those guys to take a look at it 1285 01:46:27,420 --> 01:46:29,680 before it goes out to bed to make sure we didn't miss anything. 1286 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,200 But we consider that project big, 1287 01:46:35,530 --> 01:46:35,530 right? 1288 01:46:37,190 --> 01:46:39,850 As said management plan, we didn't really have any changes 1289 01:46:39,850 --> 01:46:40,750 this past month. 1290 01:46:40,910 --> 01:46:42,470 That's just on an easy basis. 1291 01:46:43,250 --> 01:46:45,470 The ammonia sensors at the wastewater treatment plant 1292 01:46:45,470 --> 01:46:47,930 are still extremely helpful. 1293 01:46:48,310 --> 01:46:53,830 And they are catching a lot of high ammonia numbers values. 1294 01:46:54,290 --> 01:46:55,510 So they're very helpful. 1295 01:46:57,010 --> 01:47:01,890 The SBR Blower Issues, as far as I know they have not been an issue. 1296 01:47:02,350 --> 01:47:03,750 They've been running very well. 1297 01:47:04,430 --> 01:47:07,870 Blower number two has been the turn and reinstalled last month. 1298 01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:11,550 The Blower number three in the control valves are all replaced. 1299 01:47:12,290 --> 01:47:17,150 Massive flow sensors are installed, so I'd say the blowers right now are on an issue. 1300 01:47:17,330 --> 01:47:19,270 I'll probably take that off for next month. 1301 01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:21,750 And just some miscellaneous things. 1302 01:47:21,750 --> 01:47:24,130 I did participate in the test at your view. 1303 01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:27,730 I thought they did a great job as an engineering firm 1304 01:47:27,730 --> 01:47:30,510 presenting what they were going to give you in the P.E.R. 1305 01:47:31,210 --> 01:47:33,410 And I have done some very subdivision reviews 1306 01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:35,510 that we discussed earlier. 1307 01:47:37,090 --> 01:47:38,350 Questions or comments for me? 1308 01:47:39,450 --> 01:47:40,310 I think it's a little disturbing. 1309 01:47:41,330 --> 01:47:42,030 Thank you. 1310 01:47:42,670 --> 01:47:43,650 Thank you very much. 1311 01:47:43,710 --> 01:47:44,650 I was very helpful. 1312 01:47:44,890 --> 01:47:45,470 Pretty information. 1313 01:47:45,470 --> 01:47:54,450 Other than there, because that's close to a 50% increase in that one project, but it might be said there are a lot of factors involved. 1314 01:47:55,230 --> 01:47:55,290 Yeah. 1315 01:47:57,850 --> 01:48:05,250 Thank you. Thanks. Next on our agenda then is approval of bills and we have two sets. 1316 01:48:05,250 --> 01:48:15,600 But I think skipped our earlier August, so we'll start with a, I guess, 12.26, 12.26, 12.26. 1317 01:48:15,970 --> 01:48:18,890 Unfortunately, the ASS is moving. 1318 01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:30,130 And the second. All we gave her, that's the August 26, 12.26 per report, approval bills. 1319 01:48:31,380 --> 01:48:32,320 Motion. 1320 01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:33,400 Second. 1321 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:35,540 Second. 1322 01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:36,360 All in favor. 1323 01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:38,680 Second. 1324 01:48:38,940 --> 01:48:39,700 Approved. 1325 01:48:39,700 --> 01:48:43,860 We'll go now to our executive session. 1326 01:48:44,220 --> 01:48:45,380 We have three. 1327 01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:47,820 I don't want to solve the executive session. 1328 01:48:49,220 --> 01:48:50,380 The first one. 1329 01:48:50,380 --> 01:48:54,380 It's update on West Virginia's ESC cases. 1330 01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:58,660 Executive session under provision. 1331 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:04,020 Let's see a code 6984B12. 1332 01:49:04,540 --> 01:49:06,120 We've discussed any matter. 1333 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,700 We've got expressed provision of federal law or state statute. 1334 01:49:10,220 --> 01:49:12,720 All rule court is mentioned in the description. 1335 01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:15,280 Or which is not considered a public record. 1336 01:49:15,740 --> 01:49:18,180 Within the meaning of the Federal Information Act, 1337 01:49:18,180 --> 01:49:22,720 I set forth in Article 1, Chapter 29, view the code. 1338 01:49:23,620 --> 01:49:26,560 You have a motion on that motion. 1339 01:49:27,380 --> 01:49:28,300 And a second, a second. 1340 01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,380 All in favor, and I'm going to put them all three together, 1341 01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,300 so we don't have to come back in. 1342 01:49:33,420 --> 01:49:33,900 All in favor. 1343 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:37,460 Second, exactly the question. 1344 01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,060 Item is to discuss an ongoing official investigation. 1345 01:49:42,060 --> 01:49:42,280 Yes. 1346 01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:45,320 We do not have that. 1347 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,380 unless Cindy has enough data on that Richard is not present. 1348 01:49:48,500 --> 01:49:50,160 You know, Richard, so we'll have to wait on that. 1349 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:57,700 So we'll need a motion to table item B until our environmental attorney can be present. 1350 01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,860 So, in the second. 1351 01:50:00,780 --> 01:50:23,660 All in favour? Aye. Aye. And we'll go on to the third executive session item, which is possible executive session under the provision of what we need to code 69A-4B-8 to discuss internal memorandums or letters received or prepared in this case prepared by a public body. 1352 01:50:23,660 --> 01:50:27,320 We have motion to that motion. 1353 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:29,460 All in favor. 1354 01:50:30,410 --> 01:50:33,720 We'll be going into the executive session for two items. 1355 01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:35,380 I have a statement. 1356 01:50:36,300 --> 01:50:36,980 Thank you. 1357 01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:43,320 You all in there. 1358 01:50:56,430 --> 01:50:57,550 Pass is there. 1359 01:51:06,810 --> 01:51:09,190 We have it to the counter. 1360 01:51:11,090 --> 01:51:11,910 We have it to the counter. 1361 01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:15,970 I think you could add better from the floor then. 1362 01:51:16,530 --> 01:51:16,930 Yeah. 1363 01:51:16,930 --> 01:51:17,510 Absolutely. 1364 01:51:18,010 --> 01:51:18,410 That information. 1365 01:51:19,530 --> 01:51:19,770 If it. 1366 01:51:20,810 --> 01:51:21,830 You mean to the minutes? 1367 01:51:22,690 --> 01:51:22,870 Yeah. 1368 01:51:23,110 --> 01:51:23,470 The Councillor. 1369 01:51:24,110 --> 01:51:24,230 So there. 1370 01:51:24,910 --> 01:51:25,370 So that. 1371 01:51:25,610 --> 01:51:26,830 Let's go back into session. 1372 01:51:28,150 --> 01:51:29,610 We are back into session. 1373 01:51:30,410 --> 01:51:31,250 Thank you very much. 1374 01:51:31,790 --> 01:51:32,790 What's not too long. 1375 01:51:33,710 --> 01:51:34,830 So we have a motion. 1376 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:41,960 Motion. 1377 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:51,600 We have a move that we send the letter that was reviewed prepared by Council to send or 1378 01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:16,460 I would also move that we additionally send that email out to the list of people who are listed as being CCed out, but also add so when motorsports, I would say also what you're doing in that water and the ground group who's developing the potential data center at some point site. 1379 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:24,000 Patrick, if you're referring to Council as being me, I did not prepare the letter, but I did 1380 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,040 review it. 1381 01:52:25,460 --> 01:52:26,440 Reviewed by Council. 1382 01:52:26,700 --> 01:52:27,820 I'll amend my motion. 1383 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:34,540 But that was discussed in the executive session under our prior motion. 1384 01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,560 So I would propose that we sent this letter. 1385 01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:39,240 Do we have a second? 1386 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,060 Do you have a question? 1387 01:52:42,380 --> 01:52:42,760 Any discussion? 1388 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:43,620 It's 1389 01:52:45,860 --> 01:52:46,780 a good signal. 1390 01:52:47,140 --> 01:52:48,020 All in favour? 1391 01:52:48,380 --> 01:52:48,700 All in favour? 1392 01:52:48,700 --> 01:52:48,900 All in favour? 1393 01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,580 And a copy of the letter will be included in the package for the public. 1394 01:52:56,050 --> 01:52:56,450 Yes. 1395 01:53:00,260 --> 01:53:02,500 That takes us to the bottom of the agenda. 1396 01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,300 Can I also have this school board over there? 1397 01:53:06,300 --> 01:53:06,760 Over there? 1398 01:53:07,100 --> 01:53:07,580 That's right. 1399 01:53:07,580 --> 01:53:07,780 That's right. 1400 01:53:10,420 --> 01:53:11,340 The final. 1401 01:53:12,900 --> 01:53:13,700 Sure, absolutely. 1402 01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:14,520 Thank you. 1403 01:53:15,020 --> 01:53:16,480 Yeah, as a public utility. 1404 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:18,280 And get it off. 1405 01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,720 get it all out there, pass it over. 1406 01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,360 At the end of the meeting, do we have a motion for adjourn? 1407 01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:26,600 Motion adjourn? 1408 01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:26,980 Second. 1409 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:29,840 All done? 1410 01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:33,440 Two weeks for adjourn. 1411 01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,640 The mayor has a little snow. 1412 01:53:36,180 --> 01:53:37,240 So we are wrong. 1413 01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:38,540 Do you have a second adjourn? 1414 01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:41,160 Yes. 1415 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,400 We have a second adjourn.