[0:11] Good morning everyone. Welcome to the
regular meeting of the city of
[0:13] Charlestown Sanitary Super Board. Today
is July 16th, 2026 and it is 900 a.m.
[0:19] This meeting is being livereamed by city
staff. We'll begin our meeting with the
[0:24] pledge of allegiance.
[0:28] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America to the republic
[0:33] for it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for
[0:39] all.
[0:42] » Thank you. Let the record show that all
board members are present as well as
[0:44] clerk treasurer Donnie Kumer. And we
have our attorney with us. Um oh my god
[0:50] Brad. Sorry Brad. I almost said mo but I
don't want to do that to you. [laughter]
[0:55] » We have an agenda that's been provided.
Entertain a motion to approve.
[0:58] » I want to cut motion.
>> Motion made by Michael Grayson.
[1:01] » Second.
>> Second by Nathan Grimes. Any edits to
[1:03] the agenda? Hearing none. All in favor
say I.
[1:07] » I.
>> I.
[1:08] » Any opposed? That's unanimous. We have
our standing business which includes the
[1:12] approval of our meeting minutes from the
regular meeting on July 2nd and the
[1:16] executive session on July 2nd. I will
note that there's one error in the July
[1:21] 2nd executive session minutes to be
corrupted and that is that Bo Zeller was
[1:25] the attorney present at that meeting um
and so did Brad and we have our current
[1:29] claims in our payroll allowance docket
from June 28th to July 11th. With that
[1:34] edit made, I would entertain a motion to
approve.
[1:37] » A motion to approve.
>> Motion by Michael Grayson. Second.
[1:39] » Second by Nathan Grimes. All in favor
say I. I.
[1:43] » I. Any opposed? That's unanimous. Does
anyone sign up for public comment? None.
[1:48] Uh, no old business. We'll move straight
into new business. First up, we have our
[1:52] operator's report. Tim Crowder.
>> Good morning.
[1:57] » Um, typically on the second meeting of
the month, I'll have before you the
[2:01] monthly reports uh due to some
uncontrollable circumstances. That
[2:07] report has been done. I did not get it
in to Randy on before the day deadline
[2:12] to get it to you. the plan was run
totally in compliance during the month
[2:16] of June. I will have that paperwork
supported to you and Don at at the next
[2:21] board meeting. Pardon me. So, but other
than that, there has been a lot of
[2:26] activity in utility uh primarily with
staffing uh with we've got we've had
[2:33] some additional staff that we've brought
on. the labor's position that you that's
[2:37] the that's board approved
months ago I would say has been filled
[2:42] uh with a new gentleman that started
this Monday. So things are going well
[2:46] with that. Uh we have uh with again with
this board's approval and recommendation
[2:52] and approval by the city council
starting Monday. We will have an
[2:57] administrative assistant. Uh we're very
very fortunate to be able to have Don
[3:02] might not apply this but not talking to
you. [laughter]
[3:06] » We're getting we're getting one of our
staff members to come over and work with
[3:10] us and we're very excited about it. So,
uh the the So, we've gained two and a
[3:15] half people. The one I haven't talked
about is the half person yet. And trust
[3:20] me, this young lady is not a half
person. She come in on our work summer
[3:24] work program
and she has done a phenomenal job.
[3:29] uh we have extended her a part-time
position until she gets her full-time
[3:34] status at her at IUS where where she's
going to go and she's agreed to do that
[3:38] for us. So, we're very excited. We made
a lot of improvements in that area. Uh
[3:44] the the construction continues at the
plant primarily in the phase two we're
[3:48] working on we're continuing to work on
some issues that we're having. Uh with
[3:52] that being said, unless you have any
questions to the information I've
[3:55] presented to you at this point, I have
asked Mr. Jim Hagerty to uh attend with
[4:01] us today, he has a couple of items and
he'll he'll explain but understand the
[4:07] presentation and change order are two
separate items that we'll be talking
[4:10] about today. So I'll entertain any
questions you have on stuff that I've
[4:16] given you. If no questions, I'll ask Mr.
Hag to come up.
[4:19] » Uh no questions. just um just a comment
that we've done this um summer works
[4:25] program now for I guess three years
>> and um
[4:30] » it's it's been it's been really great
and I know sometimes staff can get a
[4:34] little bit frustrated with having to
bring part-time people in. It's it's
[4:38] something we don't pay for. The Southern
Indiana Works program pays for the
[4:41] summer works program. It gives young
people an opportunity to explore career
[4:46] paths and we've met some really
outstanding young people through that
[4:49] and so Thank you to your staff for
taking that young lady on through that
[4:53] program and training her because it
sounds like she's really been an asset
[4:58] and it's gone. There's been a
reciprocity there. She's learned a lot
[5:00] from you guys and and we're benefiting
from that for the plant. And as hard as
[5:04] it is to find people that are interested
in wastewater as a career, it's nice to
[5:08] know there are young people that are
still um just nerdy enough like us to
[5:12] want to to be involved in that. So,
thank you for you and your staff.
[5:16] » You're very welcome. It's been our
pleasure. It truly has. So, We can
[5:19] welcome Jim up to make your
presentation.
[5:22] » Your presentations are on your tablets.
I believe that everybody should see
[5:26] them. So,
>> yeah.
[5:28] » Good morning. Glad to know that I'm
nerdy.
[5:32] [laughter]
>> Well, I mean, I'm putting myself in that
[5:35] » basket. I was up there to plan again
yesterday. So,
[5:38] » I love the interns we have with you and
gives you a great opportunity to see the
[5:43] interns and and get them interested in
our field of interest. Uh, thank you.
[5:49] This is my name is Jim Hagerty. I'm with
Prime AE Engineering, formerly JTL. Um,
[5:55] I got two items to discuss with you
today. One is the additional sludge
[5:59] disposal cost that we're incurring at
the plant. Um, that is not included in
[6:04] the change order six that we're
presenting to you. It's kind of
[6:08] anformational for future reference of
why this will come to you at some point.
[6:13] And then I have uh kind of a summary of
the past change orders as well as change
[6:18] order six to present to you today for
consideration. So I will start with the
[6:24] uh the sludge. You have a I guess a
small presentation in your package. Um
[6:32] so
the the original contract scope of
[6:37] services that we that we uh developed
with the contractor was the city's
[6:43] responsibility. We had two sludge
storage tanks. They were that the city
[6:48] was responsible for emptying those
sludge storage tanks. We provided some
[6:52] piping arrangement to allow them to
discharge that to the new presses. Once
[6:58] we got to that point, um, PAC's
responsibility, the contractor was to
[7:04] dispose of two feet of sludge in your
bileac or your aeration basin. So that's
[7:09] how we prepare the contract or bid this
go to work.
[7:14] Um, when we got to the point of looking
at the sludge storage tanks, um, sludge,
[7:20] which was the city's responsibility,
there was a lot of debris. We didn't
[7:24] have good screens in at the plant. There
was a lot of debris, rags, applicators,
[7:30] trash, and that type of stuff. And we
were concerned with two things. One was
[7:35] pumping it into the new dewatering
equipment. That equipment is, you know,
[7:39] the presses are $400,000. The pumps are
half or 50 to $70,000.
[7:45] So, we were with all the debris, we were
very conscious of the issue of pro
[7:50] possibly damaging equipment we just
installed. as well. Um there was a time
[7:56] issue with that. Um right now I think
pace is in two plus months of trying to
[8:02] dewater all this sludge. And the other
concern and Tim you correct me was the
[8:07] time. If the city did it, you all have
additional responsibilities.
[8:11] You had to go out if there was a sewer
break. They would have had to leave and
[8:14] we were concerned with delaying the
contractor. So the decision was was to
[8:19] pump all the sludge from the storage
tanks. [clears throat] And I guess I
[8:23] should have had a diagram of it because
I don't know how familiar you all with
[8:26] the treatment plant. They were the old u
clar jester tanks that we destroyed.
[8:32] That's where the sludge tank. So we
ended up pumping it in
[8:36] into the aeration basin and put it on
pace's responsibility to uh look at at
[8:44] uh processing it. There's a couple of
pictures. Uh well, next down here on the
[8:51] disposal options.
So, we looked at several disposal
[8:55] options. Obviously, one was with the
city to do it. I think the cost of
[8:59] disposal would have been in the $30,000
range.
[9:02] » 3040
>> 3040,000
[9:04] » disposal cost.
>> Just disposal cost. But we're also
[9:08] looking at the time for staffing to do
it. We possibly would have needed other
[9:13] equipment besides equipment they had.
and typically pump rentals about $20,000
[9:20] a month plus the time issue was out
there. So, we looked at three other
[9:24] options. Option one was the geo bags.
That's what Tim has been using for many
[9:31] years now to dewater sludge out of their
base. They're just basically big bags.
[9:35] We pump the sludge in. They're a mess
material. They let the water go out, but
[9:40] they keep the sludge in the bags and in
water. Pace looked at portable presses
[9:46] too to come in and use that. That cost
was about threequarters of a million
[9:51] dollars estimated cost. And then we
looked at Lakewood Hall and that cost
[9:55] was about a million dollars. So we ended
up deciding to go with the geo bags
[10:03] and a couple of pictures after that.
I'll show you these here very quickly.
[10:11] Um,
excuse me. Those are the tanks with the
[10:15] geo bags in it. You basically put them
in a dumpster. You fill them, you let
[10:19] them be water, and then they're hauled
off.
[10:23] Um, this picture here is of all the
sludge that was in the basin in there.
[10:28] And you really can you can see some of
the debris in these basin, but these b
[10:33] this thing was full of debris. Um,
that's non-organic matter.
[10:39] Then the final picture here kind of
shows you you got the the uh they had to
[10:45] bring in a a grain in there to mix the
basin continuously. You see they have 1
[10:51] 2 3 4 5 six geo bags in there. That's
how many they would fill at a time. And
[10:58] they've been working on it about two and
a half months now to try to get the
[11:02] sludge out. and that we're asking for an
additional time extension mainly related
[11:07] to the time it's taken them to get the
sludge out because they can't until they
[11:12] got the sludge out they can't finish
work on the phase 2 part of the project.
[11:18] If I'm going too fast, let me know if
you have any questions on that. And I
[11:23] and I feel that they were very diligent
in their efforts to do this work. That
[11:27] Pace has been a good partner with us
throughout this job
[11:32] looking at keeping cost down. Initially,
we thought the cost would be 700 70,000
[11:39] to $100,000 maximum, but the amount of
sludge in these basins and the
[11:44] concentration was a lot greater than we
anticipated. We had some experts come
[11:48] in, look at it, give us an estimate on
it. Um, uh, Blue Blue,
[11:55] » Blue River Technology,
>> Blue River Technology. They provided the
[11:58] the bags. They came and gave us an
estimate on the number of bags. And it
[12:02] actually has taken us twice as many bags
as we thought originally. And they have
[12:07] been dewatered in well. They're not
they're not sloppy with the sludge that
[12:12] they've sent out. They've had good
solids concentration. So we've been
[12:16] watching it and we feel PACE has
performed very well. So right now what
[12:21] we're looking at is a potential change
order down last change order um down the
[12:27] road once they finish the work of about
$175,000
[12:33] the city cost and they're looking at
about $350,000
[12:37] in total cost and we've calculated the
amount of sludge. the city sludge is
[12:43] about 50% of the total sludge in the
basin. Um actually about 2/3 of the
[12:50] water but half the sludge. So we looked
at it pace is very agreeable to that
[12:56] that split. So I just this is kind of
letting you all know what's coming down
[13:00] in the future and why.
>> So we are anticipating this $175,000
[13:06] portion for the city will be a future
change order saying.
[13:09] » Yes. Um question. Are we going to is it
scheduled to replace the liner of that
[13:16] bileac as a retention basin once all
this sludges out?
[13:20] » Yes.
>> Like it would probably be damaged in the
[13:22] process.
>> It's actually PACE has been very
[13:26] diligent about it. They haven't um
damaged the liner. We believe at this
[13:30] point we got one other person to come in
and look at it, but we believe that'll
[13:34] be a credit to the city that we don't
need to
[13:36] » Oh, that we don't need to replace it. We
don't need replacement.
[13:39] » That's correct.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think we're all in
[13:41] agreement that liner is in good enough
shape to to do that to do that. So, PACE
[13:46] is going to they have to do some
welding. They have some cuts they have
[13:50] to make into it. They're going to weld
it. They're going to give me the total
[13:53] bid package that they did at the
beginning of the job and any remaining
[13:57] budget they're going to credit back to
>> when it's empty. I would like very much
[14:01] to have that documented formally that it
was inspected by you know the
[14:06] engineering team and pace and the
contractor um and wastewater staff and
[14:10] that it doesn't at that time need to be
in place. I would like to have that on
[14:14] record just for reorder and everything
else that we have going on.
[14:17] » Yeah. Yeah.
>> Uh that will be I think there's five
[14:21] lights in the bottom of the basin this
weekend this week. So we should be by
[14:26] next week ready to go with that. But
everything we've seen and I'll document
[14:29] it, the liner looks in very good shape.
>> Honestly, with the status of the plant
[14:34] the way it was, I'm not surprised that
there was,
[14:37] you know, um, significantly more dried
and debris
[14:42] » in in both the CLA digtors and that you
[14:48] » Yeah, Pace actually had to bring in what
we call a chopper. They tried to use a
[14:52] typical pump, uh, centrifugal pump to do
this or PD pump, but there was so many
[14:58] rags, everything was clogging up, so
they had to bring in a chopper pump,
[15:02] which is basically a pump with a chopper
blade on it to grind this all up to get
[15:06] it even into the bags.
>> I'm not terribly surprised. Do you guys
[15:10] have any questions on the sludge
disposal presentation?
[15:14] » Thank you, J.
>> Very thorough. Thank you, J.
[15:16] » Thank you. Um, next, uh, I will talk
about change order six. First, I would
[15:22] like to talk a little bit about
[15:28] Tim's handing out a summary of all the
past change orders that we've that you
[15:32] all have approved, we've recommended,
and you all have approved.
[15:46] So, I've kind of kind of I've outlined
where the of the previous change orders
[15:51] had gone to what they were. So change
order one that was just a change order
[15:58] for updated vacant Davis vacant wage
rates. There was no cost related to
[16:03] that. That was just we didn't have the
right amendment but the costs were the
[16:08] same in that change order two. Um we bid
this job prior to getting the final
[16:15] comments from IDM the Indiana Department
of Environmental Management. We had a
[16:20] few minor changes that had to be done to
a couple of pipes and that cost was
[16:25] $7,361
[16:28] 95 cents that you all approved.
Excuse [clears throat] me. Change order
[16:34] three. This one was related to two
items. One was a diffuser manufacturer
[16:39] change um based on my recommendation to
to the board and then cascade aation
[16:46] system expansion. uh we felt that it was
it was important to go ahead and build a
[16:51] second cascade aation system to help
with maintenance as well as future and
[16:56] we talked about this and I think
everybody agreed that it was a good
[17:00] improvement. I will tell you the
diffuser manufacturer while I won't go
[17:04] into specifics I am so glad we
recommended and you all did that. I have
[17:09] another project out in Florida where I'm
actually after three months having to
[17:14] take all the aation basins out of
service to redo the diffusers. Um so I
[17:20] think this is providing y'all will
provide you all real value by going with
[17:24] a different diffuser that we
recommended.
[17:28] Um change order four
two elements to that. There was the
[17:33] portable sample samplers, the CCTV truck
we purchased for you all, the Knox boxes
[17:39] for emergency uh access to the plant and
the power line relocation. That power
[17:46] line relocation had two uh purposes. One
was for the expansion of the road and
[17:52] the the additional road that that River
Ridge is going to do, as well as we were
[17:57] getting it out of the way of one of our
our entrances. it was in the way of
[18:02] that. So that was $462726.52
[18:08] for that. And then we had some
electrical field order changes.
[18:12] Always in these type of jobs when we get
shop drawings in there always are new
[18:17] updates and changes especially on
electrical area. So we had to do some of
[18:22] that. the wet weather pump station. We
had to reconfigure that design because
[18:27] the pumps that we had bid weren't going
to work properly. So, we looked at that
[18:32] and changed that. [snorts] Um, Indiana
American Water uh wanted some different
[18:38] changes to how we were connecting to
their water system to the new plant as
[18:43] well as paving concrete changes. That
was actually a credit to the city. Uh
[18:49] but those those costs were $22,115.13.
[18:56] So those were design coordination
changes that were done during
[19:00] construction.
Change order five for $447,237.74.
[19:09] Those were related. $313,6867
[19:15] of that was due to Riveridge Development
Authority. They wanted to bring some new
[19:20] pipelines in. They had a new pump
station. So, we had to reconfigure two
[19:26] 16inch pipes plus
>> right
[19:29] » two 16inch pipes.
>> They're they're going to 18. They're
[19:31] 18s.
>> They're 18s. Yeah. Going to 18 in,
[19:34] [clears throat] excuse me. and we had to
modify our influent uh box
[19:39] [clears throat] for all everything comes
into with new valves and stuff. So that
[19:42] was related to a request by River Ridge
for uh new new lines coming into the
[19:48] plant. We had the furniture package for
$58,85010
[19:55] and then the blower 2 wrapping that was
$9,000
[20:00] $75.13
and that was more um part of that was to
[20:06] replace the windows that were bad, but
we wanted the the blower building we had
[20:10] kept it as a block building and this is
a separate building that was existing.
[20:15] Everybody wanted it to look the same as
the other buildings. So, we issued that.
[20:21] Part of it was some things that we
needed to do to to eliminate some
[20:25] windows and things out of the building,
which was a plus plus to the building.
[20:31] And then that one, we actually had some
design changes as well as credit. So,
[20:36] that ended up at $15,5549
[20:41] of credits back. But there were some
there were some ads and some credits in
[20:46] that change order five.
[20:50] Mayor you.
>> Yep.
[20:53] » So that's kind of where we are with the
change orders today. We're presenting to
[20:58] you change order number six for your
consideration.
[21:02] Change order six has uh several things
in there. It has modifications to the
[21:07] the feed line to the dewatering
building. Uh we after talking with Tim
[21:13] uh there's a real long line from the
storage tanks down to the dewatering
[21:17] building. We we wanted to put flushing
connections on that line because when
[21:23] when they don't use them, the solids can
accumulate and dry out. And that's
[21:29] something I we just didn't get in the
design. And as we were building it, we
[21:33] were like, "Oh, we need to have these
flushing connections." Uh, we added we
[21:38] made some changes to the Gordon RUP RA
pumps to make them work better. Um, with
[21:44] the head conditions that we had that was
like 9,000
[21:48] Let's see. That was $9,000
9,300
[21:53] [snorts] uh $9,347.75.
[21:59] Uh we on heat tracing um in the
headworks and at the clarifiers
[22:05] um we did not have the electrical
portion of the heat tracing in the job
[22:10] uh requirement. So we had to add that.
This is water pipes that are exposed to
[22:15] the atmosphere and I don't know if any
of youall saw the pictures this winter
[22:20] of of several inches of ice on our
system. So we had to heat trace that uh
[22:27] effluent samplers were relocated from
the UV disinfection structure to the
[22:32] cascade. We had the effluent struct the
effluent samplers in the uh UV
[22:38] disinfection structure but because of
the depth of it and stuff it wasn't a
[22:43] very functionable option. So we ended up
moving it to the cascade air raators on
[22:49] its influence box to make it more
accessible.
[22:54] Uh then again as typically there were
multiple electrical field changes we had
[22:59] to make to accommodate shop drawing
changes as we get it in and those things
[23:04] are just that's part of our part of
happens electrical system codes all
[23:09] those things change all the time and we
had to update and those electrical field
[23:14] changes were at $40,362.11.
[23:19] And then the biggest one is the 138 day
time extension. That's a no cost time
[23:25] extension from PACE. And that's really
related to the sludge. Until they got
[23:30] the sludge out of the basin, they can't
finish the phase 2 work because they got
[23:35] to do some big digging around the bilac
basins, the airrated lagoons. So that's
[23:42] their request is for 138 days. I talked
to Pace and Tim. I talked to Pace and
[23:49] they're pretty confident that's the
elastic extension they'll need um on
[23:54] this project and again it was all
related to the sludge
[23:58] um here. So right now we're looking at a
substantial completion um well that
[24:04] didn't get changed May 16th I have to
correct that. That should have got that
[24:10] didn't get changed. But October the
final completion
[24:15] uh is October 31st, 2026 is what they're
projecting at this point time to be out.
[24:22] And unless there's some issues with
excavation, I don't see why. All the
[24:27] equipment's on site and ready to go. The
electrical there, so we should be ready
[24:32] to finish this project out in a short
time frame.
[24:36] » Some questions.
>> Yep. Oh, please.
[24:40] » Um, the digest line makes sense.
>> Why should I keep it keep it clean? Um,
[24:46] the pump modifications, I understand.
Headworks heat tracing. I get that. And
[24:51] even the effluent I was out there
yesterday, even the effluent pump
[24:54] sample, the relocation to the cascade
makes perfect sense. It's much easier to
[24:58] access. Probably safer even. Totally
fine.
[25:02] » Um, the the electrical stuff though. I
have some questions on the electrical
[25:08] stuff. Um I understand the orders issued
to address the the equipment control
[25:14] changes when we change equipment. If
there's a change in electrical
[25:17] electrical work, I understand that.
>> Um especially with the the decision to
[25:21] relocate the sample pump
>> to the
[25:25] » and then the the layout. What I don't
understand is the
[25:30] um
conduit for power. I mean the heat
[25:33] trace. I understand some of this. I
don't understand because I I don't know.
[25:37] I feel like it should have been
accounted for, but then I heard you say
[25:40] something about maybe a code had changed
a lot. So, if you could address that.
[25:44] » What happens with electrical? So, we got
a lot of major equipment here. What the
[25:49] electrical uh engineer does is we get ch
we get proposals from the con from the
[25:56] equipment suppliers, not the contractor
equipment suppliers during design. They
[26:00] develop their systems based on those
submitts to us during design. Once we
[26:06] get into shop drawings and I don't know
if you all the difference between when
[26:11] we design something, we reach out to the
manufacturers that that that we're we're
[26:17] looking at using using for pieces of
equipment and we get information on how
[26:22] the electrical system is, how the
circuits are running, all that type of
[26:26] stuff. And we design about around one
system, but when you bid it, you have
[26:32] multiple systems that are allowed to
bid. If somebody else bids and also
[26:37] these people are always changing
electrical designs in their system
[26:42] because of code, safety, different types
of relays happen. There's just so many
[26:48] electrical electrical design
requirements, construction requirements
[26:52] are changing almost uh
I would say almost monthly on it. So
[26:59] when we get shop drawings in from the
contractors on actually how they're
[27:03] building their panels, how do we need to
wire it, there's always changes that
[27:08] have to be addressed because of the
difference of what we did during design.
[27:12] As you got to remember, design was
started almost three years ago. And now
[27:17] we're into bidding and actually
constructing. There's always changes and
[27:22] most of these are related to I can get
you more specifics on those. I'll be
[27:26] glad to do that.
>> Just curious because it is the heftier
[27:29] of the
>> Yeah. increases through here. So I'd
[27:31] like to make
>> Yeah. I think over over to Yeah. Wet
[27:36] weather pump station. I would say we're
about $100,000 to $110,000
[27:41] total of electrical. I'm not talking
about the the circuits and the heat
[27:46] tracing, but
>> we're about$1red to $120,000
[27:51] worth of field orders on electrical. And
I in my experience on a project of this
[27:56] size that is well within norms for our
projects.
[28:00] » And then I have another question kind of
un unrelated to this but also looking
[28:04] forward to anticipating any potential
other increases outside of the 175 that
[28:08] you talked about from the sludge
removal. When I was out there yesterday,
[28:11] um, in the building where the
hydronneumatic tank is, one of the pumps
[28:16] was
>> out and I asked him about it because it
[28:19] was sitting outside and he said there
was a manufacturer flaw with it that was
[28:23] causing the bearings to go bad or
something
[28:25] » and that the one of the recommendations
had been potentially to downsize that
[28:30] pump and if that cost comes to us. So my
question to you is if it's a it's a fa
[28:35] if it's a faulty piece of equipment, if
the bearings are going bad, would we not
[28:39] have a warranty on that? Would we not
want to um get the company that provided
[28:43] it to replace that at cost rather than
us having to downsize and then incur
[28:48] additional costs?
>> There's a couple elements to that. One
[28:51] is the bearing cost. So the manufacturer
is telling us that we're running that
[28:57] pump um outside of preferred operational
range. Okay.
[29:03] » So that's one thing that we still in
discussion on that. The when we designed
[29:09] the plant, we looked at the plant water
system needs for a 4 mgd facility.
[29:16] Obviously we're a 4G facility, but we're
not running in 4G,
[29:21] » right?
>> So what I'm thinking and we're still
[29:25] we're not complete with this. So, we're
talking with Penn, which is the
[29:29] supplier, about bringing in a smaller
pump so that we can more match the
[29:35] existing flows today. Like right now,
you're only running one screen. I mean,
[29:40] one belt filter press. You don't need
both screens.
[29:43] » Those demands are 60 gpm. Um, so we're
looking at the potential of putting a
[29:49] smaller pump in to better match today's
flows and then having the larger pump
[29:54] for the larger flows. So you would keep
the larger pump in place and install a
[29:57] smaller. You wouldn't replace
>> smaller and the small other pump is to
[30:01] look at getting it repaired and then put
that in as a spare.
[30:05] » Okay.
>> So for the future. So we're not there
[30:08] yet, but it is something we're looking
at. We're we've been talking with Penn,
[30:13] which is the pump supplier for the past
six weeks trying to figure out and we're
[30:17] still waiting on a proposal from them.
Okay.
[30:19] » So when I get to that, we'll get with
you on that. We're also having troubles
[30:24] with the the colar um blowers. No, the
uh Atlas Atlas cob blowers. So,
[30:32] we're still tracking that down. That's
all under warranty. So, we're working
[30:36] with the contractor. Pace has always
been pretty reliable. Also, we have some
[30:41] control issues with the UV that's coming
in
[30:45] » that that is based on manufactured
defect and they are going to rectify
[30:49] that at no cost. So those are the three
major issues we have in today I believe
[30:57] with the phase one construction that
we're still tracking down and coming up
[31:01] with solutions and getting thing as well
as the emergency power um uh paces
[31:09] electrical missed all the surge
suppression devices throughout the
[31:15] entire plan. Um they are going to be
starting to be installed.
[31:19] » They are in They already are. Okay,
that's good because every time you would
[31:23] go off on emergency generator, Tim would
have to come out and restart equipment
[31:28] because it wasn't.
>> Okay, that's
[31:31] » Yeah. So,
>> so where our original contingency was 4
[31:34] million
>> four Well, it's that's a hope that Yeah,
[31:40] it was about 4.5 to 4.9 million. Okay.
>> Uh depending on some of that cost I
[31:45] think was for repayment of past bonds.
So, I'm quite not sure, but it's
[31:51] somewhere around the $4 billion was the
contingency amount.
[31:54] » So, with this change order and then even
the future anticipated with this sledge
[31:58] removal, we're still looking at having
about 2.1 and some change remaining in
[32:02] that contingency.
>> If my numbers on the total contingency
[32:05] are to correct, it's little confusing. I
think D you know that it's a little
[32:10] confusing. And the the percentage of
this though is for 4.12% of the overall
[32:15] construction cost. Everything to change
order six.
[32:18] » Yes. With change order six. And again
like around 3.25%
[32:24] of that has been for CCTV trucks things.
And we're needed.
[32:29] » Yeah. The things that you all needed
which I'm glad we were able to get all
[32:33] that equipment.
>> Any other questions for Jim?
[32:38] I get you.
>> Okay. Thank you all. Thank you all for
[32:42] being you heard all this and
>> Yes. Yeah.
[32:46] Yeah. Just a a couple quick comments. Uh
going back to the sludge cost increase.
[32:52] I concur with everything that Jim has
said. Obviously
[32:56] going through a learning period. If we
haded to do over again, hindsight's
[33:00] easy. We might do something a little
different. But based on the options that
[33:05] Jim presented, we all worked together
on. We chose the best option.
[33:09] » They just come with a cost.
>> Why when you're dealing with something
[33:13] of this magnitude and as old as it was,
we we that's why we have contingencies
[33:17] in place.
>> Right. Exactly. Yes, ma'am.
[33:20] » It's not like it's it's over what we
anticipated in the sense of we have this
[33:24] built in.
>> Right.
[33:25] » Okay.
>> Great.
[33:26] » All right. Um if there are no other
questions, I'll entertain a motion to
[33:29] approve change order number six as it
was presented. That includes the
[33:33] extension of time through.
>> Yeah. And we're gonna before you sign
[33:36] it, excuse me, I'm sorry, mayor. I'm
gonna have to finish the substantial
[33:40] completion date that it's May 16, 2026.
So, I need to update that
[33:46] » before you sign it.
>> Okay. Okay.
[33:49] So, with that amendment too, the actual
paperwork is what?
[33:54] » Make a motion to approve as presented
with the amendment. Nation makes the
[33:58] motion correct.
>> Michael Grayson seconds. Any other
[34:02] questions? Hearing none. All in favor
say I.
[34:05] » I.
>> I.
[34:06] » That is unanimous. Let's make sure
there's not another extension needed
[34:09] though.
>> I'm ready to have this happen. Me, too.
[34:14] » Okay. With that said, I think that's
everything unless Brad has anything for
[34:17] us or Donna has anything additional.
>> All right. Just need a motion to
[34:21] » make a motion to adjourn.
>> Grayson makes a motion.
[34:24] » I'll second.
>> Gra second. All in favor say I. I
[34:27] » I
opposed. All right, we're journed.