Commission meeting starts now.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Good morning,
ladies and gentlemen. Welcome
to the Charlotte County Board
of County commissioners,
regular and land use meeting
for Tuesday, JULY 28th 2026.
Let the record show. All
commissioners are present. We
also have the clerk court MR.
Roger Eaton joining us on the
Dias today. If you wish please
rise for the indication given
by Reverend Larry, of our
Saverin Savior Lutheran Church
followed by the pledge.
>> What did last? Land with
many things. But we also are a
chaotic people. Thank you for
bringing together people such
as those before me who debate
and think and work and make it
safe advantageous for our
lives. Where's they continue
to bless the board and its
work? For those who support
them. For all those here today
who are interested and
concerned about what goes on
here in our county. Our state,
our country, and our world.
We're in the middle of
hurricane season. So far
nothing has happened and we
ask that you continue that
blessing for us. You keep
those were safe. Those were
hurricane path. Help us to
help those who need it. And
help us to accept assistance.
When we did ourselves. But as
you blast these people. All
those here at all, those in
his county across the world to
call upon you. Let them all
feel your love and you're
compassion and your closeness.
Help us. Remember that we are
never alone. And nothing, not
dungeons, not powers on
angels. A principality is
nothing can separate us long
gone and crisis whole to that
here in the power of Christ.
We stand.
>> pledge allegiance to the
United States of America and
to public for it stands.
Nation under indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
>> you're ever in your order.
MR. Flores, you just to the
agenda. Thank you, MR. Chair
commissioners of head and read
through the change memo. First
we have edition number one.
And that was item as head of
the public here setting the
public hearing regarding
county right away. Change
number 1, 2 s 2 added
attachment to the metro
forecasting item. Change
number 2 to Essex added
attachment and also updated
the language to that item
related to the animal Welfare
League. And then. Change
number 3 to 7. We tax
resolution for that item. Same
for change number 40 vb to
attach the resolution and
change. Number 5 was 2 d 2
updated the language regarding
the location for host holding
the upcoming budget meetings
SEPTEMBER at the event center
and then adjusting the dates
as well too. Change number 6,
Hugh, to added the attachment.
That's the Peace River Water
Authority, the upcoming agenda
for discussion. And then
change number 7 is to items h
one. And that is attached but
also for the upcoming wca and
agenda. Thank you, MR.
CHAIRMAN changes so that when
my second change is, is there
any further discussion? Is
there any opposition to the
motion that passes unanimously
changing, MR. Move
Proclamation. So motion
seconded proclamations. Is
there any further discussion?
There any opposition to the
motion that passes unanimously
and commission? And already
you have the honor, sir, that
will be followed by employee
recognition.
Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, good
morning, everyone. Good
morning, Morning.
>> Comm. Doherty: 2
proclamations this morning,
the first of the 75th
anniversary of the p#
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Gorda
Boat Club. On AUGUST 31st.
1951 the p#
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Gorda Boak Love
was officially organized and
now celebrates 75 years of
voting history for the
community. In JULY of 1951.
Chamber PRESIDENT John Rose
actively pursued and promoted
water oriented tourism in our
predominantly fish. In Carroll
County, in the p#
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Gorda
Boat Club held the first
locally sanctioned American
Power Boat Association Regatta
in 1952, that included 9,000
spectators probably close to
entire population of the
county that for that. The
p#
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Gorda Boat Club
Foundation provides charitable
contributions to Gulf Shores,
sailing School Community
Resource Network in Crossroads
Academy. The Charlotte,
Charlotte County wishes to
recognize the former than
lasting history of voting in
our community created by the
p#
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Gorda Boat Club in
expresses profound gratitude
for 75 years of service that
is enrich the lives of our
residents and continually
strengthens the foundation of
our community now, therefore,
be it proclaimed that AUGUST
31st. 2026 shall be designated
and observed in Charlotte
County as the 75th anniversary
of p#
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Gorda. Both club and
accepting Commodore sue in
Fambro. And Carol Bird.
>> good.
>> Comm. Doherty: ok, the
second proclamation this
morning, the Florida water
Professionals Month. The
Florida water and pollution
control operators Association
is a nonprofit trade
organization that promotes
sustainability of Florida's
water utility industry.
Through workforce development
to protect the health of
Florida citizens improve and
to preserve the state's water
resources. This organization
offers water, distribution,
water and wastewater treatment
plant operator training
courses required for that
state of Florida's operator
licenses, voluntary
certification programs and
continuing education programs
for operator license Renewal
and this organization and
recognizing the importance of
the Florida statutes and
administrative code that
regulate the water industry
acts as a liaison between the
Florida Department of
Environmental Protection and
Industry personnel. Water
professionals are often
emergency responders during
storms and other catastrophic
events working to ensure safe
drinking water and safe
disposal of wastewater for our
communities. The Florida water
pollution control Operators
Association recognizes all
those who have played a
significant part in operating
and maintaining drinking
water, wastewater and storm
water systems in Florida by
celebrating Florida Water
professionals Month applauds
their constant efforts to
protect our health and
environment. Now, therefore,
be it proclaimed that the
month of AUGUST 2026. Shelby
designated observed in
Charlotte County as Florida
Water Professionals Month and
all citizens are encouraged to
join us in thanking all water
and waste water professionals
for their hard work and
dedication to preserving
Florida's water resources.
Excepting. There's bunch of
ccu Jeremy Frost can stacker
Kenny Hall. Ross Lynch, Tony
Smith. Smith Bill Felder and
Mike Clauser.
All right.
Commissioners, we have a full
room which is always good to
see.
>> As far as because we I know
we've got a lot of recognition
Tee up the next 3 items and
then get out of the way. So
first, we're going to
recognize all of our teammates
said hit their miles of
milestones of years of service
in JUNE 2026. And then we
recognize or investor program
participants for the spring
2026 class and then also
finish up with employee of the
month for JUNE of 2026. So I
think Abby from People ops,
Melissa, from Pe the
honors. So thank you.
>> Today. We're proud to
recognize and celebrate the
dedicated employees who have
reached important years of
service milestones. Their
commitment, professionalism
and contributions have helped
strengthen our organization
and improve the services we
provide to our community.
Thank you for your hard work
loyalty and the positive
impact you make every day.
Please join me in
congratulating and honoring
these outstanding employees
for the years of service. To
start with 5 years. Alex?
Howard utilities. Carl Walker
junior public safety. Colby,
Ms oni, public safety. Shaun
Hunt facilities, management.
Joshua, Hough Public Safety.
Michelle Fitzgerald, people
operations. Tara Blacks and
Human Services. Frank, pale of
public safety. And with 20
years, Jamie Scare a community
services. And those not
attending but reach their 5
years are greedy Peterson from
utilities. Stacey in McDonald
from Budget and Administrative
Services. Thomas Tucker,
public safety, David Williams
public works. Paige Community
development with 10 years.
Jacob Gibbs from Public works
with 15 years. James Wood from
utilities and with 35 years,
sue McKean from utilities.
Thank you.
I suddenly the people
operations.
>> Today we're recognizing our
22nd employee ambassador
program. Graduates, the
employee ambassador program
was started in 2011 because of
employers sponsors, Truck,
Strategic Area of Focus Survey
feedback received from
employees indicated their
commitment to quality work and
to being a good team player.
This program was developed to
improve communications across
departments increase employee
knowledge of the organization,
Foster team spirit and enhance
customer service. Ambassadors
are better prepared to answer
questions from Citizens,
colleagues and neighbors.
They're well informed of the
county's programs and services
and can respond to inquiries.
They have a reinforced sense
of team spirit and a
commitment to providing
quality services to all
customers and colleagues with
today's cost. Over 500
employees have completed the
program and have gained a
better understanding of the
county's department and
overall organization which
benefits customers, the
organization and the public.
Congratulations to the 20nd
class of the employee
Ambassador program. Brianna,
Beaty from public safety. Lisa
Blount from fiscal. Buchanan
Ministration. Caitlin Quasi
community Services.
>> Trevor Cole facilities.
Jessica Aaron Hart Public
Works. Sarah, what it Human
Services. Katie Jackson,
public works. Jose. Laura
Flores, is it. Thomas Mathias,
Community Services. Ricardo,
Canada, Emergency Management.
John per community services.
Brianna. Pfizer, Joseph
Utilities. Jordan, right,
economic development.
Robinson, fiscal. Robinson
Community Services. Grace
Night or Public Works. I'm
Alissa Walker Administration.
>> Very good morning
commissioners. Good morning,
Kevin Magel senior it division
manager and I'm here to one of
our employees Donovan night as
the employee of the month for
JUNE of 2026. Generally are it
employees tend to shun the
limelight. They kind of like
to do their things behind the
scene. But sometimes folks put
forth that effort that you
just can't let them let them
hide. Right. And this is one
of those instances. Take great
pleasure reading this for
Donovan Donovan night has
demonstrated Charlotte County
is core values throughout the
implementation of a complex
computer aided dispatch system
transition impacting public
safety. And Charlotte County
Sheriff's Office from the
beginning of the project, he
embraced the opportunity to
become the primary support
liaison between agencies
quickly learning the system,
understanding fire, ems
operations and building strong
relationships with frontline
personnel in leadership.
Donovan consistently
exemplifies customer service
in partnership by actively
listening to fire ems staff,
gathering feedback and
operational requirements and
ensuring their concerns and
recommendations were
communicated to the sheriff's
office which manages the
application he serves as a
primary advocate for public
safety. Bridging that gap
between agencies to ensure
technology solutions meet
operational needs. Donovan's
dedication to this project is
going far beyond the
expectations of his role. He's
invested significant time
outside normal business hours,
including nights and weekends
to provide support during
critical phases of the
implementation rather than
asking first responders to
work around his schedule. He
has met them on theirs, often
traveling to apparatus,
locations throughout the
county to troubleshoot issues,
the ploy updates and ensure
critical systems remain
operational. His willingness
to immerse himself in public
safety operations. Learn
unfamiliar technologies and
advocate for his customers has
been instrumental in
maintaining momentum
throughout the implementation.
Donovan demonstrates a strong
commitment to public service
by consistently putting the
needs of its customers. First,
his technical expertise,
responsiveness and unwavering
commitment to supporting
public safety have a direct
impact on the county's ability
to provide critical emergency
services by collaborating
across agencies addressing
issues in the field and
remaining engaged throughout
the project. He has made a
meaningful contribution to
this implementation.
>> And
>> Comm. Tiseo: next, we have
the Florida Economic
Development Council,
Innovation and Marketing
Award.
>> Good Morning. Commissioners
k Tracy Pfister economic
development director today. I
am proud to share that the
Charlotte County Economic
Development Office has
received a statewide award
from the Florida Economic
Development Council for our
Permanent Change of Station
Workforce Attraction, campaign
part of a broader careers on
the coast initiative. This
campaign was designed to
attract skilled workers,
military families and
transitioning service members
to Charlotte County by
connecting meaningful career
opportunities with exceptional
quality of life. Our community
offers. We know that veterans
and former service members
bring leadership discipline,
teamwork and dedication. 10
employees value highly I'm
sorry. Employers value highly
and who wouldn't? Who wouldn't
want to hire someone who has
proudly worn a uniform of our
country. And who wouldn't want
to live in in play in a
purple. Her community that
honors in admirers are
veterans and military
families. Charlotte County
proudly recognizes the
sacrifices made by those who
have served and we remain
committed to creating a
welcoming community where we
can all thrive and continue to
to live and work. Through
targeted digital advertising.
G offense scene around
military installations,
relocating relocation,
messaging and workforce
focused storytelling. The
campaign generated more than a
million targeted impressions
nationwide. And more than 6
1000 visit visits to workforce
attraction and relocation
resources that we've provided.
A major focus of this campaign
is reaching military connected
or dances and position in
Charlotte County as a place
where service members and
their families can
successfully transition into
civilian careers, raise their
families and build long term.
Futures. This award,
especially is meaningful
because it recognizes economic
development marketing that
directly supports workforce
growth, a long-term community
competitiveness. Workforce
availability remains one of
the top factors that concern
companies in our community to
provide quality goods and
services to our residents.
Initiatives like careers of
the coast continue to
strengthen Charlotte County's
reputation as a workforce
ready and veteran friendly
community. Additionally, I
would like to recognize or
talented marketing manager
Maria Vessel Sorella who is
not here today, but for her
hard work, creativity and
dedication in leading this
campaign, her efforts to help
position Charlotte County
among our peers across the
state of Florida and earned
this distinguished statewide
recognition. We are grateful
for her and the rest of the
economic development team. For
their commitment to promoting
our community and telling the
story of why Charlotte County
is special. So special to live
and work. I'd also like to
thank the board for your
continued support for economic
development and workforce
initiatives along with our
community partners, schools,
employers and county staff who
helped make this campaign
possible. We are honored and
blessed to receive this
statewide recognition and
proud to continue promoting
Charlotte County as a place
where careers opportunities,
patriotism and quality of life
come together. Thank you. Do
you want to take a picture?
Should be. We want to Ward,
you serve.
Okay. Next. We have excellence
in Business award and
commissioners today. I'd like
to introduce Christie sisler.
She is our business
recruitment manager and she's
going to be doing this next
For the record Christie's
sessler economic development
morning Commissioners, ladies
and gentleman.
>> On behalf of the Charlotte
County Economic Development
Office. It is my honor to
present the excellence in
Business Award. This
recognition is reserved for
businesses that demonstrate
leadership, strengthen our
local economy and meaningful
commitment to the community.
They serve. Today we are proud
to recognize Buffalo graphics.
Founded in 1988 Buffalo
graphics has been a part of
Charlotte County's business
community for more than 35
years. What began as a
family-owned company has grown
into a second generation local
business now led by Jordan, a
quote, who serves as the owner
and PRESIDENT. Under Jordan's
leadership. Buffalo graphics
has continued to grow,
modernize and serve as a
trusted, creative and
production partner for
businesses, nonprofits, public
sector organizations, health
care providers, financial
institutions and community
partners throughout Charlotte
County in southwest Florida.
Buffalo graphics is more than
a pretty company. It is a full
service operation offering
printing graphic design,
mailing signs and wraps and
greater ease screen printing
dye sublimation promotional
products and branded online
storefronts. That range of
services allows local
organizations to keep more of
their marketing branding and
communications work right here
in Charlotte County. The
company has also continue to
invest in its future. From
2023 2025 Buffalo Graphics
reported revenue growth of
approximately 26.5% with 2025.
Marking the strongest year in
the company's history. During
that same time, the company
continue to reinvest in
equipment, facility
improvements, software,
workflow systems and modern
tools that help improve
communication and customer
service. But what really sets
Buffalo graphics apart is the
way the company pairs business
success with community
responsibility. Over the past
3 years, Buffalo Graphics has
contributed more than $47,000
in combine committee
investment through direct
donations, donated print
services and just discounted
services for local nonprofit
organizations. In 2025 alone,
the company provided more than
$22,000 in combined giving.
Including donated and
discounted Prince Services to
28 local nonprofits. Those
organizations include the
Charlotte County Community
Foundation. The Animal Welfare
League. Archway Institute for
Mental Health Kiwanis
Foundation of Charlotte County
and many others. Buffalo
graphics has also supported
major local events, including
the Art Institute, Golf and
Tennis fundraiser the Gulf
Coast Partnership Art Show in
Kiwanis Foundation Golf
tournaments through support,
Buffalo graphics helps local
nonprofits promote events,
race funds and share their
missions and reach the people
who need them. Most. Jordan's
commitment to the community
also extends beyond the
business itself. He serves as
the PRESIDENT Of the Charlotte
County Jazz Society helping
preserve and promote live jazz
music in our community. While
supporting music, scholarships
for students across the last 2
seasons concert proceeds
helped fined $25,000 in
scholarships for 9 local high
school students pursuing
advanced music education.
Buffalo graphics also invest
in people. The company has
built a strong team culture,
including long-serving
employees and returning team
members who've come back into
key roles in sales and
operations. The company is
also an active partner in
Charlotte, Technical Colleges.
Design program. For multiple
years. Both Buffalo Graphics
has hosted students for
production floor tours once or
twice each school year. Giving
them a firsthand look at
creative careers in action.
The company has also hired
program graduates into
full-time creative roles,
including its current art
director, helping build
Charlotte County's local
design talent pipeline. This
is the kind of business
excellence we are proud to
recognize in Charlotte County.
Buffalo graphics has grown
responsibly invested in its
team and supported local
students helps nonprofits, 6
seed and continues to
modernize while remaining
deeply connected to the
community. It serves. For its
leadership business growth.
Innovation community
investment and lasting
commitment to Charlotte
County. The Charlotte County
Economic Development Office is
proud to present the
excellence in Business Award
to Buffalo graphics. At this
time, I'd like invite Jordan a
call to come forward and
accept the award.
Congratulations to Jordan and
the entire Buffalo graphics
team on
>> And after photo, you'd like
to say a few words.
>> And MR. Chair is going
before Jordan comes I recently
got to meet him and he is not
going to be participating in
comedy for cause this year.
Got another recruit. You get
to see over at the to support.
It's gonna be great.
>> Thank you. I'm very
grateful for the economic
development for this
recognition. And I'll be
honest. I don't love being up
here because that's that's the
word doesn't really belong to
me. It belongs to my team and
my family started this
business and grow this
business. And I'm very
thankful for all the
opportunities we've had this
county. Thank Thank you, sir.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Well, if
you're a little nervous coming
up to the mic, wait till
comedy for cause, you'll have
you have hundreds of people
were going to cure that
heckling. Hear case. All
right, gentlemen, we're gonna
move on to public input,
agenda items, only anybody
wishing to address the board
during this portion of the
meeting must fill out a card
state. Their name for the
record state, which agenda
item or items will be
addressed. Remarkable, limited
to 3 minutes and Shelby
address to the commission as a
body and not individual
members. I have my cards here.
If you haven't filled out a
card there to my right over
there at the table. When
Matthews. Regarding the tdc
appointment.
>> Good morning, CHAIRMAN To
commissioners, it's a pleasure
to be here this morning and I
thank you for the opportunity
to introduce myself to you,
although you all know me. I
have applied for the tdc
appointment and I with like to
just share a little bit about
my background. I bring 3
decades of experience in the
hospitality and tour and
travel business. And I was a
small business owner in
upstate New York with my
husband. When we lived there,
I believe that all of my
credentials could greatly
benefit the tdc. And I would
really like to ask for your
vote. Thank you. Thank you.
Next they have Sean Wilson.
>> Comm. Tiseo: On item
regular agenda. S 3, the
Award.
>> Good morning. Members of
the county commission and
staff and citizens of
Charlotte County. My name is
Shawn Wilson. The PRESIDENT Of
Blue Sky Communities.
>> Comm. Tiseo: With offices
at one 80 Fountain Parkway
North in St. Petersburg. I am
here today to ask for your
support for the Blue Deep
Creek face to affordable
housing development, which is
coming up, regular agenda item
s 3. I want to thank the this
commission and the county for
working with Blue Sky in a
spirit of partnership and
cooperation forward 9 years.
We first proposed are
jacaranda place development
all the way back in 2017. And
I'm proud to say that that we
did get that built
successfully with help from
the county and the state we
also were able to successfully
get funding for a blue Deep
Creek phase one on Luther Road
through the same process that
we're requesting today. The
funding and then we we came
through and and and we won the
funding at the state with that
with that commitment from you
all, I think we've been good
partners. We've always done
what we said. We're going to
do. We try to keep drama to a
minimum. And most importantly,
we've have been providing
housing for some of the
hardest working people in
Charlotte County, including a
lot of folks with special
needs over there at the
Jacaranda Place. Property.
Blue skies made a lot of
commitments to this
development over the past 12
months. And not only do we own
the land already a blue Deep
Creek phase. 2. So there's no
contract with the seller.
There's no crazy extensions.
We own the land. But we also
came through your regular
zoning process. We went from a
10 units per acre zoning to a
15 units per acre zoning. And
you fact to approve this
development in a manner of
speaking when you approved the
zoning back in MARCH and then
finally and perhaps most
importantly, we took a cue
from the state of Florida who
said that they want to see
these affordable housing
developments be more permit
ready before they apply for
funding. We're doing that. The
architecture and engineering
is done. We're about halfway
through the permitting. So
when we win this funding, we
will be ready to go again. No
drama, no bumping up against
closing deadlines will be will
be complete permitting in
DECEMBER, which is right
around the time that the state
is going to make its final
awards. So you can count on us
to get this thing in the
ground quickly.
>> And I a
>> all the hard work. I think
that we've done over the past
years in the past 12 months
was really recognize in many
ways. Also our commitment to
conform to the consolidated
plan I think was recognized by
the Home Review Committee in
their initial ranking. We
actually were the
highest-scoring applicant. We
scored 86. The other
applicants scored. 82 and
hopefully that result will
carry the day today as well.
Thank you very much.
Commissioners. Thank you, sir.
Thank you for your comments,
Samuel. Her pinning s 6 awl.
>> Good morning commissioners
good morning. My name is
Samuel Chirping. And I'm here
to bring some raw common sense
and black letter law to the
agenda regarding animal
Welfare League contract. I
wrote a speech, but I do in
the just like you guys know,
the Florida of Florida single
Audit act requires that we
demand an audit of every
single 5, 0, 1, 3, c that
choose to contract with
outside of using our tax
dollars. And so because of
that, the Florida single audit
act demand that we have a line
by line item on that audit and
so that we can see exactly
what's going on. Furthermore,
in your own contract from
2013, it also says that you
have the ability to demand all
of these things that the
Florida single Audit act also
requires. So 2 different
levels, you're saying that you
have the right to the law and
to the state of Florida in
order to require audit. That
audit is not only a breakdown
of the money of our tax
dollars, the people's money.
It also is about the animals.
In Charlotte County. It says
that were only responsible for
strays. Those are homeless
animals and but cases for 10
days yet. They originally awl
else for 1.3 million dollars.
a jump from $384,000 and no
one's going Where is the
money?
>> Can anybody do some math
here? And as how much 1.3
million dollars, how many
animals that could take care
of? So I just adopted animal
last night because my beloved
animal just passed away and it
was $400. I made sure that it
didn't have to go to a
shelter. It was horribly
abused and it got to come to
my home last night. So this
isn't about the animals are
taking it.
>> Or not taking care of our
animals. This is about the
rule of law and what is
required not only for the
animal welfare league, but for
all 5, 0, 1, 3, c's that we
require. If you want our tax
dollars.
>> We would like to know how
that money is being spent and
how it's being spent. And as
business owners as Lynn
Matthews pointed out, are
alive. What is our return on
investment? Are the animals
truly being taken care of or
where is this money going? We
have the rule of law on our
side in order to demand the
answer to those questions
before we move any further. I
appreciate your time and GOD
bless everyone today. Thank
you. Thank you, sir. Thank you
for your comments, MR. Tim
Richey, our one. I'm sorry.
That's one.
>> good morning, everybody.
>> Are seeded day. We have.
Seen up. And it's for Glades
County. There's going to be
$200,000. Nats provided by the
epa. And then we've got This
little graph here for the
Glades signed by Shannon seen
out. Then we've got this inter
local agreement with the
Manatee County and Cena. Last
time. Any of you been him on
the Peace River? Yeah. Look
closely. Commissioner to Axe.
You know, we're in phase 3
water shortage per swiftmud.
You know what's going on up
the Peace River and the Myakka
River. I'll tell you why.
Mosaic fertilizer phosphate
mining slash Mikel company.
>> All are harbored. I want
you all to know this because I
was on Radio Saint Pete
Saturday and I let him know.
Do you know much environmental
damage? Mosaic has done to our
harbor in our river? Take a
wild guess. They got hit with
a 1.8 billion dollar
environmental find. And 26
2015. I asked him it from
Tampa Bay to Charlotte Harbor
in the ala fire.
>> The little manatee, the
manatee Miac in peace.
>> I bet you Commissioner
Dority. We're pushing 500 to
750.
>> Billion dollars in
environmental damage. And what
have we gotten from Ciena?
What have we gotten from any
501 c that we give money to?
Tell you what a big fat 0,
everybody. How much money will
it cost to dredge the Peace
River from Lake Hancock? Past
party through DeSoto to
Charlotte County to the end of
our harbor. And what are we
going to do with that? 12 to
15 feet of muck. Each one of
the rivers I mentioned need
that. Have any of you reading
the letter to Governor Mosaic
say we want to investigate
these wastewater facilities in
reverse osmosis that MISTER
Tim Ritchie are citizen water
czar.
>> Hasn't told Senator
Albritton has told the Peace
River Water Authority in all
of you. I want to see a letter
written by the next meeting
from one of you. Thank you,
sir. Thank Men's.
>> Just for the record that
was item r-one. There are
local agreement between
Charlotte County on behalf of
the coastal in Hartland
National Estuary Partnership
in Manatee County. Not s one.
>> Thank you. Commissioner
covers water, whole enchilada.
>> No, that was for my board.
For the record. Thank you,
sir. Cole Kelley s one. Good
morning commissioners. Good
morning, sir. My name is Cole
Kelley and I'm running for the
tdc more. I strongly feel that
I would be the best applicant
and I would love to serve our
county on this board. I am
Sunseeker resorts, current
water sports provider to my
company, p#
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Gorda Ventures.
I worked very closely with
Fisherman's Village to my
company and the Charlotte
Harbor got map on the
forefront of ai and technology
and this business, but also
being a captain and working on
the water every single day. I
also have a good mix of
conservation and I know what
makes our destination extra
special out on the water we
currently have over 75,000
followers on all platforms
actively work in promoting our
destination with the Tourism
bureau already on a very
frequent basis. I think my
young mix of ai for technology
also still being able to
balance things for.
Conservation efforts would be
best served to that. Our
tourism development County
actively involved in all types
of conservation projects
around Charlotte County,
including captains for clean
water. The Coastal
Conservation Association, and
we just planted a 10 metric
ton oyster. That out in Turtle
Bay. I am young and active in
the community and as well as
in business. I didn't have a
hospitality business decades
actively working with the
current members on the board.
And I think together we can
make a really great change for
the county. Some of the things
that I think are really
important is to have better
signage at some of our out
landing places as well as
helping bring a larger
corporate groups and that the
county to promote better bet
taxing. Thank you so much.
Look forward to working hard
for you in citizens of
Charlotte County on the tours
Thank your comments. Are Ariel
Frein Ard s 3. Area less open
areas coming around.
>> Good afternoon.
Commissioners Ariel Frein with
House interest a senior vice
PRESIDENT With House interest
Group are based out of 3 to 5
Aviation Avenue Coconut Grove,
Florida. Very happy to be with
you here. All regarding
Murdoch Square. The other
development that is requesting
local government contribution.
I've had a chance to meet with
some of but not all. And I
wanted to first and foremost
into his House interest group.
We have a develop over 10,000
unit since 1997. Most of our
developments are working with
local nonprofits,
municipalities, private
entities all across the state
and nationwide. Our team is
vertically integrated. So we
have development, finance,
construction and management in
House we are very excited
about Murdoch's where because
back in 2025 we were working
with staff to identify the
area of interests where we can
bring a site forward to the
state. And we believe right on
Veterans Boulevard close to
Port Charlotte Town Center is
an excellent opportunity to
bring affordable housing
development of a quality to
the county. One thing I want
to address and some of the
comments that were made as
relates to, you know, the site
in the scoring that were done
at have. So we have a
long-term site control with
the seller, which is what the
requirement is we wanted to
identify infill site close to
employment centers close to
work close to walkability to
give people that live there.
The residents, the opportunity
to not have to rely heavily on
transit and to be close to
their work and their job. That
was the goal. And that's a
scoring criteria at the state.
The 3rd, the scoring as it
relates to hot. The only
reason that we scored lower is
because we were offering a
wider range of income levels.
So we were offering some 70%
and my unit and we are also
offering lower band of 30%.
>> Just to give you
perspective, a family of a
family of 3 household. That's
earning about $60,000 would
technically be priced out of
the Blue Deep Creek site just
based on earning too much
money where we wanted to
capture that if, you match it
the same out if we were to
match the same income levels,
we would actually scored one
point higher. And that's due
to our superior location of
the site. The other thing I
just want to know, blue Deep
Creek is not permit ready this
year. So our goal is as well
to start spending money on
design and construction
engineering drawings so that
we are permit ready letter.
Should we not be obtaining the
funding next year? And lastly,
I would say, you know, we have
more units. We have 3 bedroom
units to capture a larger
families and higher chances of
funding. So thank you very
much. Thank you, sir.
>> Comm. Tiseo: That was my
last speaking cards. The last
call anybody wishing to speak.
Please come forward state your
name. For the record. You'll
have 3 minutes. And when
you're done, we'll get you to
fill out a card.
>> Good morning. Commissioners
Jennifer hacker with the coast
on Heartland. National Estuary
Partnership speaking on Pia
Lebanon are one first. Want to
clarify where with the U.S.
Epa? Not 501, c 3. And we
wanted to just quickly,
correct for the record and for
the public that we do and have
done many, many things and
continue to do for Charlotte
County. We ourselves have
funded over 20 years of water
sampling in Charlotte Harbor.
We put all of that data onto
the chmp water Atlas where
it's publicly accessible with
data analysis, tools to give
you real life readouts on the
water conditions out there in
the harbor and other waterways
in Charlotte County. We also
have fun recently finished
funding the for 200,000. The
Comprehensive vulnerability
assessment in Charlotte
County, which will make you
eligible for more resiliency.
Florida state grants and that
kind of identify where you're
vulnerable. Critical assets
are and what we need to help
adapt those to be more
resilient for future storms.
We also are embarking on a new
project with your staff called
the Charlotte County
exceptional ponds. It is
project that your staff
brought to us that we are now
funding and will begin this
year. We also find keep
Charlotte beautiful to do
cleanups throughout the
community. That's just a
sampling of the many things
that we are providing to you.
The return on investment is
tenfold for what you provide
to us and what we provide back
and being able to leverage
those funds to get federal
funds back to our community. I
just wanted to also say that
the water quality problems. We
experience in Charlotte Harbor
are not isolated,
unfortunately to the Peace
River. We cover the myakka the
peace and Caloosahatchee
River. A lot of our study show
that the loading coming out.
The Caloosahatchee has one of
the most serious impacts lower
Charlotte Harbor. It's what's
driving nutrients into this
estuary and really, you know,
not to say that the peace
myakka part also an issue. And
there are also nutrient loads,
but we actually have done the
science to see that the
Caloosahatchee, unfortunately
is the largest driver of the 3
river systems. We are working
on all 3 of them. But Clades
County, of course, sits on the
Caloosahatchee. So it really
does behoove the people of
Charlotte County to address
issue and a regional scale.
And we are happy to partner
with you to do that. Thank
you. Thank your comment.
Ma'am.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Last call
anybody wishing speak. Please
come forward. State. Your
name. For the record. You'll
have 3 minutes.
>> I am tears, ages and
executive director for the
animal off early. And I just
want to take one minute to
publicly thank Hector Flores
and Emily Lewis. For their
time and dedication as well as
all of appear for working very
hard with all of us at the
animal Welfare League. For not
only coming to. Partially
agreeing with our contract,
but for working very hard over
the last 4 weeks. To try very
hard to come to an agreement
for today. We didn't quite get
but we're working very hard
and we're hopeful to come to
you on SEPTEMBER. 8th. But I
just want to take the time to
thank them publicly for their
hard work and dedication. It's
been a pleasure to work with
the over the last couple
weeks.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Thank you very
much. Thank you for your
anyone else wishing speak.
Please come forward state.
Your name for the record.
You'll have 3 minutes. Okay.
Nobody's rising move on to
consent. Commissioner
Deutsche, anything the Bull.
Commissioner Truex.
Commissioner Constance.
Nothing commissioned already
nothing. I have nothing the
Motion. Second move the
consent. Is there any further
discussion? Commissioner
Constance
>> Comm. Constance: 9 is the
approve ranking designed for
and your fishing pier
community services. Up the
last meeting that you know,
having an issue with the fact
that the 41 bridges have been
closed to fishing and we're
going address it at the mpo
meeting on Monday. Like to
request MR. Flores have.
Somebody from staff, whether
MR. Elias War. Tommy or
somebody becoming just give us
a brief update on what's
happening with. All of the
fishing piers in general. Just
a synopsis because we're going
to we're going to we're going
to probably room full of fish
there. And I just want to make
sure that we have some of you
to give an update because
we're gonna he's speaking with
MR. Gaither and the secretary.
And I think we're going to to
a resolution, but I think it's
important. We have everything
on the table for everyone. So
folks know that currently
what's available and what our
plan to resolve the issue will
be. I just don't want to go on
that one. I think it's
important. We have full
disclosure where we're at and
also what's happening just in
general with permitting. Army
Corps why it's taking so long
it's a an understandable
frustration. We just think an
update would be would be well,
advised that that meeting.
Thank Thank you, Sir.
Commissioner
>> Comm. Deutsch: Thank you.
We discussed this on on 1, 1,
so they I think a lot of us I
know I was concerned about the
closing of of the bridge for
fishing and and specifically
and from what I understand the
information that got passed
down to me literally. The
state reacted to one
complaint. There was one
complaint from one person
about the fishing on the
bridge. And I think they
overreacted to that. I think
they've acknowledged that. And
I think we anticipate and the
next few days, if not the next
few weeks that the bridge be
open again to fish. So, thank
you, sir.
>> Yeah, just quick comment. I
believe Missus. Lewis has a a
comprehensive list of the pier
so we can make that available
pretty easy them like a one
pager with the update, the
status and where we are with
with each with each of those
Piers, is there any further
discussion on this item? Is
there any opposition to the
motion? Okay. Consent passes
unanimously. We're gonna move
on to regular agenda. 1.5
ballot. Tourist Development
Council.
>> is it too early.
Okay. Commissioners for this
item for the Tourist
Development Council ballot MR.
Cole Kelley has the majority
to have much
>> We have a Do we have a
motion? Mr, killing? Yeah,
yes. We have a second. Motion
is second to approve. MISTER
Kelly has the new tourist
Development Council any
discussion. Is there any
further discussion? Is there
any opposition to the motion
that passes unanimously okay.
We'll move on to item s to
Metro forecasting model
update, MR. Your next
PRESIDENT.
>> Morning commissioners been
Bailey community Development
director. I'm just here to
introduce David Farmer from
Metro forecasting to give us
the latest update on
population projections. So
they will hand it over to him.
>> been warning for the
record. My name is David Frum,
representing Metro forecasting
models think happened here
today. It's to that. My
partner, Dr Paul Buskirk
invented the knack of growth
models that we've been using
for the last 3 years to model
you. In fact, why do show it
off in this presentation? You
know, any extra money that
ever left over for projects.
We do all those back and are
indeed we just developed the
Five-point-one that was used
for this update. Quick walk
down memory lane. We
originally started working for
you in 2023. We didn't update
and 2024 because that was part
of the original contract to do
an automatic update. Then we
updated again twice in 2025
FEBRUARY and then again,
FEBRUARY, they did then and
then with AUGUST 8 in
DECEMBER. And now we're here
today with the APRIL data. And
this time we've actually
backfield our data with
certificate of occupancy data,
which might sound like bunch
of gobbledygook. But that
means that dead-on accurate.
We have every single not
verified and uncommitted. Just
a quick refresher on the igm.
It's a very active, very
complex growth management
tool. It's it's really
designed for long-range
planning, planning for
facilities and informing
boards like yourselves of the
needs that that meant to be
readily obvious. But looking
5.10, years down the road, can
see these things are needed to
begin plan budget for them
plan for the next senator. We
also use ai is part of our a
bill that analysis. It helps
give us more accuracy because
some zonings allowed multiple
outcomes and yet the model can
take just one for a partial.
And so we we use that for that
analysis and this and update
also helped us identify some
micro macro trends, which I'll
be sharing with you today.
What really makes us different
than our competition?
Actually, most forecasters in
general is that we believe
that growth happens in an
organic fashion following
logistic curve to get a little
ahead of myself. We have 353
zones in Charlotte County and
each one have the very home,
very complex curve that makes
that up. In fact, our new
model election now looks at
all of the building data per
zone and then does a ton of
statistical now cycle 1100
times to reach the growth
factors for each one of these.
As you probably aware when you
have a whole bunch of zone, 1,
2, 3 zone, 4, 5, 6, they're
just numbers only mean much.
So we categorize them into
clusters so that when we talk
about things are a little more
interesting right? The said
zone 4, 5, 6 was Babcock are
part of plot that sort thing.
But I say Babcock now you can
0, one exactly what I'm
talking about. And that's why
we do those. All right. So
jumping right to the desert to
the findings. You've had some
growth in case you weren't
aware. A 2022. Is your peak.
And and to no fault. I mean
this through no fault of your
planning department or your
facilities, directors or what
not the levels of service have
declined. That brings a bullet
point. Number 2, it's a climb
because you've had 50,000
people since the census.
That's more than a 25% growth
rate in 5 years. I know you're
feeling and can see it when
you drive around town and so
forth. And I know you know
this, but I to say on the
record, that's a lot. That's
why I moved here from
Fairbanks, Alaska, the greater
favorite areas, very slow
32,000. But there is a 50,000
today. That was a 99. Today,
50,000. You guys have added
that he all of the springs
picked up and moved here since
2020 is the kind of people are
talking about. Since JANUARY.
25 2025 you have added 7500
units. And if you pay
attention to building very
wait a minute date. This
crazy. Didn't we had an issue
that many building permits
that's what we call lag. Lax
especially with higher in
single-family homes and
multifamily projects. That
could be 18 to 24 months from
when you issue a permit for
that actually hits the books
and shows up. But again, these
are all verified the CEOs
because I looked at number 4,
5 times to make sure that it
was right because it was a it
was a big one. So you've had
an ongoing trend. Your
commercial development back
in. 23 was about 70 square
feet per capita. And I've got
a graph to show you a few
minutes show that stacks up.
But is your commercial, your
daddy, that a few 100,000
square feet over the last few
years. But it's just not
keeping up with your
population growth and that's
adding to congestion and in
traffic woes and so forth
today, you're at about 63
square feet on a per capita
basis. We think that pretty
sure this is true, you're
leaking to your retail demand
is leaking both Charlotte
County to that are to serve
the county to the north of the
Lee County to the South.
Michigan doesn't Commissioner
Constance you're recognized.
Yeah. Go Your presentations or
is amazing. I do want to ask
though. You know, a lot of
>> Comm. Constance: the sales
that have gone on in the last
20 years, especially covid.
He's been very disruptive and
a lot of people just shopping
by their mailbox. So. You
know, I would assume we're
going to be seeing a lot more
delivery service. Type of
businesses booming. As you
know, if you go to the mall,
it's very quiet. If you go to
a lot of the yes, small
businesses that you arrive on
foot, they're not getting shot
as they were 20 years ago. So
is part of that lag in your
estimation, underestimated or
overestimated? In other words.
If we're looking at by the old
standards, you're way behind
But the new standards, again,
you're being organic and how
you're looking these things.
Maybe this is just the new
normal.
>> Right. And that's I would
remiss in my job if I had
heard that question 4 and had
an answer ready for u n it's
just a canned answer.
>> We're well aware of the
Amazon defecation, if you
will. That's a real word or
not. People shopping from from
their from their laptops and
from that them from their
phones. That does happen. But
there's also things like
Instacart you've heard of that
will those still of its money
from real retail centers. And
so yes, in the old days and
I'll show you in our in my
chart a few minutes here that
actually 100 square feet was
considered absolutely normal
for an area to have some
places that have tourism have
a higher per capita. Some
places have a lower one
because of either
socioeconomic issues or
because there are shopping in
nearby counties. But we think
that you still should be in
the 75 range easy without
breaking this for sweat. Part
of this could also be not just
retail facilities, but also a
lag in unemployment as well.
So we'd like to encourage some
redevelopment in in this area
right here where I stand. I
was just it was amazing. Drunk
driving 41 this morning of all
that the retail and shops and
businesses to the side, which
is great but I think about all
of the new people that are
really living on Babcock and
that sort of area and off to
the west and of course, north
of here as well. You've had a
huge influx of people and
those areas. When you look at,
they basically about a 7.11,
are food deserts. I'm not
calling that clock a few
dozen. Of course, they have a
Publix got another one on the
way. But we still think that
you're short, no matter which
way we slice it. Yes, those
those services are reducing
the need for some of the big
box stores. But not as much as
one might think.
>> So and I don't know how
much we You could I don't know
how much you've researched
North port, but I'm sure you
have to look at the
surrounding areas and have a
feed-in. You have any kind of
an assessment about how they
run because they have a pretty
healthy commercial corridor
from the from the Charlotte
County Line North. You know,
they didn't plan well. 4.
>> Comm. Constance: Multiple
malls and businesses that, you
know, a lot of going frequent
general when so close, we've
kind of grown into Sarasota
County in that respect.
>> Comm. Constance: how has
their planning work doubt they
had to, you know, an ability
to wait 30 years and plan
after, you know, they saw what
went on with, you know, a
little stripped areas on 41,
maybe not a successful word.
We're having some. You know,
again, resurgence regeneration
reworking promenades at some
point. Going to come on with
that with a new iteration
which we've approved. So and
the mall here will get
redevelopment. Some point you
know, what is your opinion of
what's going I so. Will you
show a county's population has
been greater than North
port's? North port had more of
a concentration of population.
And I think that attracted
some of the uses that you are.
>> Comm. Constance: You are
residents actually are
enjoying right now. And in
some cases it's much faster to
drive just. A mile north to
shop in North port. And it is
down here because, again, of
some of the congestion that we
have.
>> they
>> certainly have some uses
that you don't. But I think
that largely Charlotte County
undiscovered in terms of what
it could be by some of our our
major retailers are are
realizing especially out west
that that West Cluster is just
breathtaking. Don't know which
one the West, but West to to
axe. It's just it. My jaw
drops. Every time I look at
the building permitting over
there and the concentration
now you've got power, all
energize now to the South. We
think that there is highly
underserved not tried a trick
question about northward, but
it's convenient. Yes, tried to
North port right? We don't
want to say that there's a
line. But for every tax dollar
that's spent across the county
line, that's another dollar. A
portion of dollar doesn't
repay tree itself. Back to the
county. So and I know that I
relate my customers. You guys
are the government. Your job
is not to build retailer that
and you So you guys have a lot
of vacant land and your
economic develop. Team is
doing an excellent job. We
just need to make sure that
we're encouraging some
commercial centers, especially
to the West. The Babcock has
really been a poster child of
the right thing to do their
commercials coming online.
Bricks, brisk pace faster than
I would imagine with it with
similar population growth in
an organized fashion. But has
been really great. Bringing on
industrial and commercial to
meet the needs that residents
like to see some of that and
more in in the West Cluster
and in the north part of the
Mid cluster to meet the
existing demands and the
growing demands that are
coming. Think so. Yeah. Let's
that credit update. The Inuit
allows me to look at the data,
our laws, our whole team, to
look at the data and then
report to you what we're
seeing. This is a a graphic
showing by 4, 5 times every
time it's been updated, this
is different than every graph
that we've done for a
population mostly because as a
sharp acute angle that is very
disjointed and unusual. The
genesis of that, we believe is
Westport Slash Murdoch and
Babcock coming online at the
same time, your bill that has
always been us about the same
it is today. Maybe a little
bit less. But the rate of
growth in the change of
absorption has really changed
those 2 projects. And let's
not forget about covid. You
can't overlook that. And not
only that, it is, but you can
see now the growth in the
future is it looks cheaper
because it's a little
compressed from left to right.
But you have a nice trajectory
now going. And I think that it
once even Westport builds out.
You're going to see a lot more
interest in the areas west for
has has taken on more
commercial. And it's more
convenient place to live. If
that makes sense, that's going
accelerate growth in area much
the way that that first or
will want to finally see some
commercial down that way.
Commissioner Door recognized.
Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN Day,
I'm just looking at your table
you know, we see it before.
You've updated the number of
cases previously you indicated
that we would probably hit 50%
of our build a population of
around 2030.
>> Obviously now it's moved up
to. We want 27 28 zoning. 2
years to 3 years will only
achieve. 50% of our total
build out population. Just
that settle. We will only be
half way with our total
population. So but that just
absorb as to what it's going
to be like here in 20 to 30
years, if we don't keep up
with infrastructure. Thank
you, MISTER. Thank you, sir.
We also to look at the same
graph. You look at 2040,
310,000. You know, you are you
one 87.
>> Yet the census and now
we're talking about 3.10, to
20 years later. And that is
Your growth has been. I don't
think it's going to slow down
the. I think that you yes,
it's going to slow down from
its peak. You guys are well
past peak. But but the growth
Regency today, I think you're
going to see that continue on
for quite some time.
Population people come from
houses writer, they live in
houses. East ideally. And so
the more housing is we have
the more population we today.
We're sitting on just under
136,000 housing units actually
that was as the end of MARCH.
And and you can see your build
out is is protective mask to
be about Will tell you that
numbers low. I'll tell you
that because the methodology
we use as we do go around,
just knocking down shopping
centers and putting in
multi-family or residential
that you have an approved. But
I look at my crystal ball,
especially drive up. 41 and I
can say 100 use a look at
their 100 is look at there.
Your your bill that is
probably going to be closer to
2.85, maybe 10290,000 units.
But that's a whole lot of this
Lot of boards from now. You'll
be adding 13,000 more homes
between now and 2030, bring
more people with it I hope you
like this. Next session. I'm
trying to make a point here.
So we develop this back in
2023 to show you how each area
was growing. And I think it's
not fast enough for years in,
we started the left-hand Look
at Babcock. One might
incorrectly assume down. It's,
you know, it's growth is not
growing. Really? It's it's
maxed out its rate of growth.
And now it's in a linear phase
of that. So that we see those
bars will continue fly for 5
more years and then a slight
will go down in there velocity
as as Babcock starts
approaching it, it's it's
build out. We look at first a
road you can definitely see
the projects that have been
approved by you and are taking
root and building down that
way. We look at East member
East does not include the
Babcock area. We pulled that
out separately. You can see
there's a little burst. Think
that's p#
#
Gorda where that
growth that took place and we
look at the mid we told you a
long time ago that this area
right here is still your
number one goal spot no matter
what it's good. But terms of
velocity, in terms out now
growth, this is it right here.
The this whole cluster around
us. It has a a large appetite
for services and a lot of
vacant. Lots still this area
is not even approaching in
close to build up. I'm not
even half fact, for some of
the old math, this area alone
is needs another 4
neighborhood shopping centers
blows your mind like for
Publix type shopping centers.
In addition to its here. I'm
not saying in the downtown
area but dispersed throughout
the area to reduce those those
trip Lakes, p#
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Gorda is
fairly level and then we look
at the West we see that that
blast these really picked up
in the past years. I think
that's from your national home
Not positive. I think it's
your lung, ours and and others
that picked up and spit sped
up that velocity over there.
That area 10's was will serve,
especially the north end where
it touches the Venice area. I
believe you have Savannah's
people coming down shopping.
You're course we want that to
continue as much as possible
because it adds taxes. But to
the South and the West
Corridor. We need some more
commercial of their. We are
going to have a traffic
nightmare if not already on
our hands. In fact, to hand
rose been doing your data last
3 years. He and I going to
head West and going all the
way to the south get current
on what's going on over there.
And we've got a new rv park.
It's coming out of Maybe maybe
that's open by now Hewitt. So
the comparison one of the
makes another we talk about
every every cluster of talk
about the right, the left
Babcock and west. If your
mind's eye keesey that 1500
line and sort of dried, let's
just pretend those those 2
clusters are about equal in
terms of their of their their
home building right? Okay. So
now just switch from housing
used to population note note
how those 2 areas were sort of
same ish and note how Babcock
is actually adding 3,000 more
people year by the West is
only adding about 2500. That
is demographics. That's
families versus non fat must
say no family the west. But in
general, when you when you
average all out, we have more
people per housing unit
showing up in the Babcock
area. I said that was
interesting to show you where
we have similar, how building
patterns and yet different
population showing up with
slightly different needs. A
images might look similar to
They are all brand new. This
is every door k#
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that showed
up in 2025. Call that teal.
Than on orange color. Yours.
Just single-family. And here
you what purpose? Turquoise
island, turquoise area and and
the the orange are your multi
families granted And I will
tell you that Babcock is
great. Distorted those housing
units just the but the doctor
so close together, they're on
top of each other and you
can't really fully appreciate
all of the construction that's
going out there. And that goes
for some of the other areas
around here, too. You can see
especially down by where the
legend where it says Charlie
County residential. You can
see the Birds Star Road really
taking off and in the emerging
as well as Tucker's point.
Called the Willow, I believe.
And then that West area that
West areas really even the
barrier island that
interesting, you know, I was I
the figure any year you have 2
or 3 building permits out
there. But what is that like
15 or 20 happening in the
area? So I think these are
very interesting to see in
useful in terms of recognizing
that it's not just one area
that's going you guys are
going fairly evenly as the
land and utilities and such
are are available. So we start
with 1000 now wasn't over the
population. So I said you're
going to add 13,000 housing
used by Twenty-thirty will in
those housing units. We think
you're going to be 25,000
people based on the
demographics and so the
Westport Murdoch area is going
to be that's going to
represent about 21% of your of
your population. We think that
area will largely built out
close to 2030, as it closes.
Cluster of redevelopment there
Babcock. 42 1% of all of your
future residents between out
2030 are going to live in the
Babcock area, which is why
they're bringing on not only
their second Publix and so in
2023, we said by 2035 for sure
Babcock was going to need
another one. In fact, we're a
little too conservative in our
in estimation, looks like it's
going to get closer to 20 to
29 out there, which which is a
very good thing, actually
increase even more velocity.
We think of demand for
development. We then have a
14% people showing up in the
West Coast, which is mind
boggling to me. When I look at
all those building permits
showing up in also underscores
what's happening over in been
Babcock as well. And then 9%
down in the first our
corridor. That's not to say
it's less desirable. It's just
there's potential for growth
down there. There is these
other areas of the county.
This, Matthew, this is some
fuzzy math. But what I'm
trying get across a general
point to you, and that is that
since you've grown by 50,000
people in 5 years, more parks
are needed more fire stations.
I know you have a new fire
station to be built. Kudos
just looking at the raw
numbers. I know more needed. I
think a call for service
analysis would greatly help
understand where and when
these new fire stations are
needed. Love to do that for
you. We also need 3 new
shopping centers. We know
Publix has purchased one site
and and I think we're going to
see others emerging. Hopefully
one down a burnt store road in
the near future. And then when
population grows, as we know,
specialist quickly levels of
service declined. And with
that comes capital spending in
planning and so forth. We want
to make sure we have these
these shopping centers in
right place, not just to keep
sales taxes, but because we
want to cut down trip. Planks
of people are driving to
further congestion. The roads
we can only widen roads. Much
going to go broke, trying to
widen all the roads, just
accommodate traffic words. We
can have These facilities,
shopping centers located
inappropriate locations. It
really will cut down on on
trip traffic. We did that just
broke what we did an analysis
last year for Charlotte.
You're for. Cape Coral. We
found this one neighborhood of
the added. It's a promoted to
neighborhood shopping centers.
That one there was demand for
3, Ted. It is 45,000. And that
was that the diplomat
quarters. 45,000 people in a
court in sports, 3, if they
just if they promote 2 of
those being built today, not
in the future today, they're
going to save 1.4 million
miles of driving in by build
out 4 million miles a year
every year. Every year. It
that's 40 cars a year. If use
the old 100,000 a car, 40 cars
that won't have to be built to
make those trips anymore.
Similar without doing the
math, I can tell your case is
similar to we need to make
sure that there's land set
aside in outer areas the West.
Are you pretty much do you
have some some nice tracks of
land of that can accommodate
these larger commercial
projects? We're concerned.
It's the mid cluster in the
northern areas. Not right up
against necessarily a North
port, but it probably need to
a perfect world. We'd be able
take some lots, an aggregate
them in in preserve some 6, 7,
8, acre sites to have future
grocery stores and such to
again, reduce that trips. At a
quality life, it'll it'll
it'll make the tax base grow
and so forth. Table. You've
seen it before. All the
numbers are different. I
promise you. This is saying
that by 2030, we actually
absolutely need 3 more
neighborhood shopping centers
and much astounding is and
this gets back to leakage is
you also need 3 community
shopping centers. Now those
are nothing to seize that.
We're talking about 3 to
400,000 Square feet of big box
said 3 of those you're not
likely to see those in the
next 5 years. Even 10 years,
mostly because the leakage
it's going on, though there is
opportunity, especially in the
Western cluster and has
Babcock starts building out to
to have community shopping
centre facilities in those in
those areas. If you see
negative numbers, what that
means is that areas is
technically oversupplied like
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I have 3 neighborhood
shopping centers, but it can
really want support 2 and a
half and the rest of be met by
this red. The people
surrounding that area. Here's
a map. This map is not meant
beast partial specific. It's
more to say that the burst our
corridor. I need a community
shopping center in a
neighborhood shopping center.
Also up in the Mid court made
cluster. We can see that we
have a new store called for in
30, 40 45 and then over the
West Cluster no later than
2035, we need another
neighborhood over there that's
placed on commercial lands and
actually love to see that
could be over in the West
closed that green shopping
cart. They see that further
south, actually, because
that's where the population
concentration really is. And
the northern reaches
Englewood. And you can see as
at 41 win a road that is 41
its, what, 7, 7, 6, 7, 7, 6,
goes East West. We need to get
for the far enough of that
area as a Walmart to Publix
and that airs on despite the
area south of that, that they
were concerned about. All
right. Here's the charter told
it was going to show you this
is this is our data. We don't
download from the Internet.
And so that's why it's sort of
limited. Doesn't county around
you. But we have personally
mind all of these numbers and
you can see how they the
average out around 100 and
What I think is a useful
comparison. As you look at
Sarasota County and in Manatee
County, those to join each
other. If you're familiar with
the Sarasota Mall, that's
right. On the side the North
line Sarasota County and
surely that's why Manatee has
a lower supply because they
have 2 or 3 million square
feet of commercial space. They
can come enjoy or their spaces
is to the north. It averages
out to be 100. That's say
that. I think you need 70 75
square feet to be competitive
and and to be more economic, a
diverse to with the
understanding that you can't
just snap your fingers and
create square feet of of more
commercial space. This this
slide in table are all new and
it's not meant to be preachy.
It's really intended for my
heart to be informative. And
maybe you already know this
this cut. This is so this is
not this year's tax taxable
values. This is the 24 25 to
school fiscal year and what
I'm trying to show you is is
how you compare against some
other counties that I think of
similar demographics to you.
Similar not the same in terms
of where they're so their
taxes 81% of yours comes from
comes from residential.
Really? It's 83 Martin 78
Sarasota. 84 vacant land.
Mean, we liked vacant land
that they come in Disney
services and yet provides
taxes. So that's that's that's
a positive. Then we get to
commercial and we see that
that that were actually sort
of falling behind We're a
little behind when it comes to
Lee Martin and in Sarasota
counties. So we'd like to I'd
like to see that pop up a
little bit question.
Commissioner Constance
recognized? Thank you, sir.
>> Comm. Constance: I
understand what you're We go
back and you're saying we one
of the lowest. Commercial
square-foot think of
harassment. But when you go to
the sliding, you're showing me
these percentages. Show me the
vacancy rates because I don't
know that that that are
commercial property is
completely full. I there's lot
them. Right. So you're pushing
for one thing. But then you
say we need a lot more
commercial. Many more dust
robot, maybe agree with you
because I think whatever we
have is getting gobbled up.
But commercial wise, what is
our vacancy rate for
commercial?
>> What's number? So I don't
know what the vacancy is, but
what that's telling me from my
perspective, not arguing
saying I'm right at my
perspective is that means it's
in the wrong location. There's
too much clustered in this in
this area here where we needed
and they did pick up about a
3rd of it in any dispersant
around the county because
that's where the demands
originally. This was the core
population here that beaten
snout current turned into a
business center and and I
couldn't help but notice
there's a lot of places to eat
in some businesses, but I
couldn't get over how many
places that were to eat along
that the 41 corridor and I saw
want to pick a businesses. I
what used to be neighborhood
shopping centers and now other
things. Okay. Not to pick on
something outside of Bingo
hall, perhaps things like
against being like that like
it real for that. But those
examples of that are ideal for
adding multifamily know you're
icon. Debuts. Got to tell me
I'm growing like crazy night
on grow. Some more. Well,
reason I have vacancies, zone
of customers in the area. And
so by bringing in people, I
have future employees. They
can live close to where
they're going to work and easy
to shop close to transit and
all those things. I think it's
what I What you see is
vacancies. Eye sees
opportunity to hopefully bring
in some developers that
specialize in redevelopment
with retail not knock down the
retail, but but remove parts
of it and add residential uses
in those places. So you know
that obviously you're looking
at us.
>> a moment in time and every
time you come back into the
moment can. But you don't, you
know, and understand the
history like some of the
people to my right who were
here to watch, you know, a
shopping center. Be built and
then a grocery store. Given
you better. A grocery store.
Close and the been the whole
open because across the street
a Walmart was demolished and a
huge public says. But I mean,
so many things have happened
where you're right. It was
very concentrated. And then
things have been repurposed to
reconstruct it in then those
former business is very
successful. Moved even saw
exactly what you're saying.
Guess I always look at this.
Problem because that's what
this is planning problem. Why
wasn't this community plan
better? I really have an issue
with planners. You know, they
have they have the title, but
I just haven't seen them show
up yet. You know, they they
seem to, you know, map out an
area and say, well, this is
where things are going to go.
But obviously they don't have
a crystal ball. But at this
stage of the game. And I will
use back as an example. Guess
what, they're planning that
community really? Well. They
know where the commercial
should be. They know how much
there should be and the the
years of experience and
knowledge are now being
actually put to to work and it
is working. But I guess the
plans that we were working off
from the 60's. Really not
thinking about, you know, the
amount of growth that was
going to occur are the are the
streets properly wide enough
for future growth. And again,
right where the nodes for
Beaver communities, every
single going to be one huge
thing ever is going to drive
there. No, it doesn't make any
sense. You need to have a
neighborhood facilities. So
folks can, you know, pretty
much just a local until they
need something very special.
They take special trip or
they're going for the service
activity or, you know, go to
the beach, go someplace where
they can't get it in their
backyard. But I fascinating. I
mean, it really did
>> So clock has done a very
good No, no, if ands or buts
about that. It's one thing,
though, to design a town that
you create from scratch,
right, for for 40,000 people
for says something that you
trying to manage for a future
of 500,000 people and where
they can make all the
decisions in they own the
land. They can do whatever
they want. You don't. And so
planners plan, but developers
develop and and
>> Comm. Constance: But
they're planning and
developing at the same time.
So they have that opportunity
and they don't want any
leakage. They want everything
to stay with him because
chances are good that they own
most of the commercial
property. They they want to
keep those. Those revenues
coming in. So they're making
sure that people don't ever
leave Babcock to get
everything they need right
there. So I just find it. You
know, that's kind of how
things should have been set up
because you don't want folks
burning right foot.
>> Well, and hopefully meant
that I could just so bad.
Hoping that actually serves
community around it, right?
Hopefully they'll get some
medical facilities and people
then we'll have to come all
the way in. And I can't
imagine someone staying alive
on the track from from back
out all the way here in some
sort of major emergency. They
need medical emergency out
there. That's nothing against
our public safety officials.
And But it's just it's so far
the roads get so congested and
we just we don't the
population. But I'm hoping
that that clock is actually
center for that whole area to
serve the that the needs
because it's an ideal note
concentration of the
commercial in population.
Thank Commissioner Constance.
Just say we all know the
history of Charlotte County.
>> General Development want to
sell lots. We have hundreds of
thousands of platted. Lots. It
was $10 down $10 a month. And
you buy a lot. And get your
slice of the Florida sunshine
in Charlotte County for Blue
collar worker up north. It's
not a master-planned community
like Babcock, you know, which,
you know, started what, 15
years ago whenever was 20
years ago. So, yeah, that's
that's the reason that Port
Charlotte was not planned out.
>> Like Babcock was planned
out all the new newer
communities are planned out in
a look at these things.
>> Because planning has gotten
much better since the 1950's
and 60's and, you know, had to
use some of those planning
tools back then. Yeah, we
probably wouldn't have some of
these issues like we have with
the access roads off of 41.
It's a mess. It's just a
complete mess. And you know,
our board and future boards
are going to have to deal with
unpacking on winding and
trying to fix it. And that's
why we have a future land use
map. You know that accounts
for, you know, the changing
environment, you know, so when
applications come forward,
look to the future land use
map, you know. Because the
growth is changing and we MAY
have to change with it in
terms of those zoning
decisions. Just like we're
hearing today, you know, you
need more commercial here. You
need more this over there.
And, you know, we look that
are comp plan. Commissioner,
recognized, sir. Thank MR.
CHAIRMAN. Yeah. So it was
counties no different than the
county and was that was over
there.
>> He got all of you. The
state would you got all South
Gulf Cove. But then you also
had Capital Corporation came
into the same thing for
Rotunda all the outlying areas
of Rotunda and Cape Haze. But
that's why it was important
that we we did the Lamar
Replatting and the North and
the South Gulf Cove because
they made that area a little
bit easy to get around in.
It's more of a community so
that North and South Gulf Cove
that all got rezoned. So you
got Harbor Western Harbour
East right? And that I think
was a good change. And those
are things that we need to
modify to at times when we
look at people gobbling up
land and being able to modify
and maybe make it more
efficient for us for the
future. But you look at
Westport mean Westport was a s
and I didn't like it that the
government battle the property
back then, but we have a
better outcome today. Hoping
never do it again. It will
that that's a great point. So
we took over 1000 acres of
land. Will the commission did
back in 2004? And there was a
couple of 1000 platted. Lots
of what do you have now? You
have commercial notes there.
There's going to be a Publix.
They're all those services to
keep the trips internal.
>> Comm. Tiseo: And then you
have a plane community. You
have, you know, all the
services they're I think is a
dog park. There's other things
there and it's built around
one of our regional parks. So
that's an example of good
planning taken into account
commercial that's ongoing
right now. I don't want to say
it's a mini Babcock, but it's
got certain elements, you
know, the same type of
planning. Thank you,
Commissioner track stole my
thunder cause. I was going to
bring up Westport and that
that.
>> And I do that politics of
buying those like I was
actually here in 2002, 2003,
when you lie to the study
recommending this and that
that to a lot of hard times,
the Great Recession and 5
other things. But it really
has turned into a vibrant
area. And I would encourage
you that that's a very, pretty
nice new area. But I would are
you that? Well, it wouldn't be
Westport. I hit by encouraging
and someone having intestinal
fortitude to gather some lots
around the West area where
future I'm sorry, the north,
the military, especially end
and actually the southern part
of west to create these these
commercial centers. I'm not
bragging. I think it's a it's
your job. Your the government,
but we should be encouraging
someone to do the aggregation.
The if you do this, you're
likely to get commercial uses
the things these people need
to hear to cut down on on
trips and so forth so we can
improve our planning, if you
will. I know it's frustrating.
Say why wasn't done right to
begin with others? A lot of
competing interests. We also
don't know the land like but
only developer doesn't have
full control over things. It's
a challenge and I'm just glad
that, you know, we have a
board that recognizes that and
is open to ideas because it's
exciting. Some of the things
15 happen here. I would like
to see you at least consider
the idea of the adding some
multifamily to some of your
larger commercial centers.
That MAY be are doing so well
in and it's not your fault
that that the units haven't
gone over at the mall. I'm
dying for that to happen when
those first 300 units going,
it won't happen overnight. But
when get in a couple of years,
the area will just the whole
feeling will start to change
and you'll have this
synergistic redevelopment I'm
just itching waiting for that
to happen. We have plans
outside of that thing. We
think you're going to see
actually a grocery store show
up in there. At some point it
might only be in all. These
are something we think that
that could be a very important
hub over there.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Look, this
this board approved compact
growth mixed use. You know, we
went out and we made the
changes. We work with economic
development. We work with
staff to look at those things.
It's up to the free market to
take advantage of it. We don't
have control. We can set the
table which I think we did.
But the free markets have to
the applicant and do that. We
can't. As you said earlier, we
can't make the markets spend
their money right. And I read
and then Fortune article last
night that multi-faith
vacancies are hitting new high
for this whole area in General
Naples made up some sort of
national.
>> top 10 list of places that
had higher vacancies. And in
Fort Myers, City of Fort Myers
did as well. So it's not gonna
happen tomorrow, but I think
in next 4 or 5 years, it's a
real possibility. We could we
could see renewed activity at
that. But that location
hopefully sooner hopefully
we'll historically the markets
are cyclical. We know that. So
we're gonna have our ups and
downs, right? But both now
being title in someplace.
Hopefully the title as sun set
out on this because we want to
see that item c for 500. You
show up at that mall. Back to
this. This chart here just for
a second. So we'll the
industrial with a lower tier
of Lee and Martin have 3% of
development or there taxes
coming from industrial love to
see more of that again. I know
you Your kings can't control
everything but it given the
opportunity. Let's let's
promote more industrial and
commercial. Not just
commercial commercial say, but
in the right places and
employment centers. Of course,
you want to promote those. So
again, a clean, we think going
to see another million square
feet of industrial show up,
which is a real positive what
rhymes with amendment 3 as
amendment 3 South Amendment 3
passes. Commercial industrial
properties are going to even
more valuable. That's where
more of they'll tax base can
come from. With all this said
you could your ratio right
now. And the beginning had of
myself is 30 square feet per
capita, again of the much
lower you're only one square
foot away from Collier. But
Collier is not exactly known
for wanting to do a lot of
industrial space with us
having this really nice
airport right here. I think
it's a it's a jewel. We can
really, you know, it's our
anchor sites let's build
around it and build it up so
that it can be a The close
proximity to 75 in moving
freight. They're all all
wonderful things with that
said the sea, you have even
more land. That's it's light
about 3 from think MR.
Johnson, a quick yeah. This
industry slide where it says
what you think the man is
going to be.
>> Comm. Constance: You're
giving me the numerator.
What's the denominator? What's
the current amount of acreage
in each one of these zones?
>> There's had that column. I
I'll get that to you. Is a get
them you have it. So you have
about 7 million, I think,
square feet. If you recall so
7.8 million or something, I
think 7.8 million square feet,
Just in other words, you just
you giving us the acreage that
would be demanded. You can
just get us. What is the
current I mean, some of them
might be over. My some of
them. Maybe wait well above
the current level.
>> But in future, it won't be
in right per capita But the
industry is completed. The
airport has way more
industrial on a per capita
basis. But it's not about
people that's more about
employment and stars. You
categorize inverted ports as
commercial or industrial.
>> we don't have those yet.
So.
>> I get that. But if there's
a demand for with deputy
categorizes can Tecnico 20 in
that in the department these
codes for airports of such as
an industrial
>> So that I could understand
and those those will be
popping up wherever it's
logistically possible without
power lines. But they can be
almost anywhere. And this is
not me say this. Reporting the
facts don't shoot the
messenger, but technically
many stories also industrial,
if you because it's a place
where warehousing. Okay. Thank
you
>> okay. This this good graph
is not mine
>> Jordan over an economic
development. Don't really help
to develop this for me for
this presentation. It is
updated. The numbers are
slightly different. We note
that the top in the green
industry be 2% of our of of
our employment base it you've
heard battle of some brand not
not being paid and not wearing
a t-shirt and hear that. All
right. Get sponsorship or
anything. But Cheney brothers,
we but we want to see more of
that type of of of
development. You know, there's
550 jobs over there. And if I
skip ahead, we get into
multipliers and something with
a site for the jobs they bring
in almost another 1000 jobs in
terms of and if all the way
from your teller, 2 waitresses
to your car, mechanics of that
people do ac carpet stores and
all those things. So we want
to see more of that type of
developing around the airport
and what's great about she is
it really doesn't depend on
how your local economy's
doing. They're selling ketchup
and mustard napkins all over
southwest Florida. And so
you're benefiting and all
those dollars foreign from
wages come back here and then
it spent looking the economy.
Want more of that going on.
Commissioner checks? 2
appointed.
>> Comm. Truex: The public's
has a piece of property out
there as well. Yes, and so,
you know, the number of Publix
stores that are going to be
built both in Westport First
or road. The regional one
Inglewood right now making it
much larger, much more, you
know, updated facility. Might
make sense for them to start
looking at actually building a
facility because it's in the
middle of so many stores. Now,
not just Charlotte County,
obviously, but for their
future. So I could see them
doing that next 5
>> But got one of the creek
don't rise. I mean, they they
want they buy 25 years ago. It
was a long time was a major
capital investment. They made
very bright, though, to being
at the airport in a good
location. That company really
thinks forward. I really
respect him for that. But I
also but okay, 3rd is nice,
but let's get some building in
some jobs going on here, too.
And, you know, with all the
new store is going in and
Charlotte Lee and Collier
counties, this of make an
excellent location for to
locate that. And since that
work in all 3 jurisdictions
for the Mpo is if you guys
would like to store demands, I
can provide those to you. If
you want to market the Publix.
Free of here's a breakdown
actually from last year of
what's what you it. So it does
can be sort of a hard sell an
average year about 28300,000
acre, as you know, most houses
are assessed and that you have
more of those per acre. But
the difference is that people
need things in industrial
commercial generally don't
need a lot of services. And so
we get back to this. Fiscal
issues and fiscal neutrality,
both commercial industry that
really the keys to that. And
there's a bullet point right
above the table that the
industrial and generate some
1000 times, the revenue of ag
land. And so some of that, I'd
like to see some of the ag
land around the airport area
converted to industrial uses.
So here is not a bill similar
to the commercial shows you at
30 square foot on a per capita
basis. Then you compare to
look at these others and that
this doesn't happen overnight.
You don't snap your fingers,
but there is absolutely room
for you. Do it for you to grow
your intensity. If Michael,
for you would be 55 and I'm
one of those of those mindsets
that we do have to reach 55 to
be successful, I think reach
for 55 if we hit 45, which is
50% more per cap. And you have
now, I still think that's a
home run in terms of tax base,
jobs, all the things come with
that. If you wanted to reach
55 to 45. So in 45 you need
another about 450 acres. In
addition to what you have now,
that zone industrial to make
that happen in minutes, all
developed and such and again,
I recognize you have probably
a lot of petitions asking for
different things. You are the
ones that the balance, the
competing interests. I'm just
looking at the numbers and
saying will made no political
difference. I'd love to see
more industrial lands.
Commissioner Constance and
this is have you. So in the
northern part cap, but there's
quite a bit of wetlands. And
so that sort of degrades the
the utility in the usability
of the land makes it more
difficult to to build around
so forth. South south of the
airport is some pretty
gorgeous stuff. It's it's
disturbed if you will. So it's
easier to permit news.
>> And I think it's it is
>> You're my It is already
leading self into the Jones
Loop area which is part of the
cap, but proximate to it that
I think more will see some
more conversion. Right? And I
think you're already doing
this, but I would be remiss if
I didn't say so when we have
more industry happens down
there normally and get talked
about planner, In the 60's.
The rules were thou shalt not
have commercial industrial
anywhere near people that have
those who said because those
are those are incompatible
uses. And I get with that.
That theory came from. But
then the problems that we
have, driving in between that
and so where where it's
appropriate were can be
designed, right? I'd love to
see some multifamily Putin
with some of that in the
industrial so that we don't
have the workers driving long
distances that they don't have
to, especially with Walmart in
it.
>> Tell you.
>> Walmart, Publix, all these
and a whole bunch of can name
of the stores. Just saw him
online to polio. That's
wonderful place to live. Now
and to be great that more
people living there that can
take advantage and patronize
those businesses. Just more
talking about it. As increase
the industry allocation, we
could be more competitive with
each other. These other
counties without naming
counties. But it sounds like
that think those 2 other ones,
they have a lot of wetland
issues on their lands, a very
familiar with their with their
entitlements are not entitled,
let's but their allocations of
industrial lands. You guys
have some of the best. Land
available for communities on
industrial now, but for
industrial uses, it's it's
it's brittle, barely permit.
W's will close to 75 northward
is also close to 75. But it's
it's it's intensely. What if
you look at it not being well
as scientists, but you can see
from the aerial that did the
trees. There are likely well
into nature. The last slide
here. But results I just that
the p#
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Gorda know, you know
this, I will ask that you guys
have. And let's let's build on
that because it really is like
Sears used to be don't. All
right. The big the anchor and
we can build around that and
in amount of employment that
we can be created is just
enormous. Last last 2 slides
here. So just to repeat. So
you've had 26,000 housing
units and 50,000 new residents
show up since the census with
that has come a declaration in
and lows of service no, it
doesn't hit a good time,
especially looking at how
attacks of us might change and
such. It's important, though,
to value, especially our
public safety are our sheriff
in our our our fire
departments, ems, and making
sure they have the right play
the right facilities in right
locations allow them to do
their jobs and reach reach the
people in a program out of
time. We want to monitor so
the aggregate amount of
commercial. So the agger
amount of commercial is is one
thing. But especially want to
make sure it's in the right
place. That's when Santa than
in the northern part humid
cluster in the southern part
of your West Cluster, that
caucus taken care of itself.
We'd like to see more
commercial and only like one
acre lots. 51 acre. Lots is
not the same thing is even 20
acres of developable land. We
can locate some of these
services. Planning shopping
centers by locations. Please
use that map in in your when
you're looking at to
deliberating whether approve a
project. Not that map again,
some parcels specific, but it
shows you where those where
those facilities are needed.
And it's also critical to
reserve land for our future.
Sheriff sub stations, fire
stations, parks, those sorts
of things. I know we've heard
from of libraries and parks
and their master plans and and
and more lands are needed for
them, at least reservation, if
not, if not plan, purchase.
Hears just same for the 3rd
time. Guy Committee consider
policy change. That would add
some density to some of these
older commercial facilities
that are tired, maybe have
space is not needed in
location where they were
greatly needed in that
whenever they were built.
Today's a different day. Now
we need when we have
dilapidated commercial
commercial, it's not
economically viable. It's
because number of people put
more people in that area, it's
helps balance that that whole
equation now. Updating this
model is is I believe helpful.
Do you guys you guys in the in
the in given session probably
make between 10, 15 million
dollars with the decisions in
this I believe is it is
helpful to make just one right
decision from it. It pays for
itself. With that, I'm going
to go off the rails for just a
second to last year we able to
successfully challenge Beaver.
One beaver came out your your
population number. We were
able to conclusively show the
state revise their data to our
number that we are able to
prove. I believe that I can't
prove that, but talking
finance people. I think that
that it's somewhere between 3
500,000 permit revenue per
year. But by by winning that
argument, having updated data,
we are cocked and loaded ready
for when the letter comes in
next 10 days to see them and
maybe nothing's needed. But we
are ready to support you and
make sure you get your fair
share. Don't worry, sir, your
contract still in place. See
where you're going there.
Well, the uk for ourselves,
but our data is Craig. The
date is credible. The state
didn't roll over. That was a
whole bunch of e-mails. Ben
can tell I do want to say that
I love what I do for a living
I think appreciate you. I
would not have a job without
you and I'm sincerely grateful
any other questions. I'm happy
to answer any questions.
Farmer.
Constance. Yeah, I just want
pick up things. So you're
2030, data point. We're
getting closer. So how?
Confident are you in that?
Because that's still
predictive. I mean, the slow
could go go a little. Go back
to the dots. The coupon.
>> land right.
>> So first blue dot is the
current is that the current
data?
>> No, for get it was because
that's before I guess it looks
like get this So you're you're
saying you think things are
going to slow down by
twenty-thirty? What if they
don't?
>> What if you have a of a
similar s#
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and you come
back to us in 2 years ago,
guys, we we tried to stay
conservative and we goofed
again. And actually it's it's
still creep. So that's a
possibility. Not only a
possibility, please don't fire
me.
>> But I will tell you that we
did not use. Are we do not
take Dotson, rulers and
pencils and draw a straight
line. So Europe, he permitting
it was around. 5500 units i
think was something like that.
You're down in the 30 to 3300
units per year. When I went
back, we don't use that to
build the models but went
back, went back and took the
housing units and did the
math. We are. We are right at
the your current level of
permitting. So if you're
permitting, happens to go up
from here, yeah, numbers are
going to be low. What I wanted
to was expected to go the
direction you want. Most
people are like, oh, you could
that that there's nowhere near
that number going to show up.
And I'm like, I'm positive.
That's not people. They're
going to show short of some
major major recession popping
out of nowhere. This is like a
minimum. And to your point,
sir, yes. 20,000 more people
could show up. Will they? I
don't know. I think that when
I look at all of your
permitting over the last 30
years, I look back at the
Great Recession. My stomach
gets upset and I look at, you
know, permitting for 5 pounds
a year compared to permit and
5,000 a year I still I still
think you're I think you're in
a linear phase of about 3,3500
permits a year what will
change is when Westport builds
out and inland Babcock. I
think by that time the fire
will have caught and your your
your your platted lots will
then maintain that velocity
for years to come. Move ahead
to 2, 3, sides of the bar
charts for the housing and
then the population. The
portraits. Yeah. Ahead.
>> Forward forward forward
yet. So what you know, you
said Babcock You have
increased that you have more
people in the housing units.
Same thing with Mid County,
West County, not so much you
mentioned, but all that Mid
County, the West Ports and the
backpack. There's a very
there's a real similarity
because both of them, when you
see those housing units on the
next slide, the population
jumps up for both of those and
everything else is down. So
that was interesting that
that, again, there's more
people per unit. Is that what
you're saying? So so this
because the multifamily or I
don't. I think I think it's
more families, not not not
single or multi family, but
the but the character of who's
choosing to live there. And I
think that clock in mid
>> Comm. Constance: are
attracting more families West.
You look at the areas, it
looks like their families as
we see plate. We deeper
looking people's are looking
at swing sets. We want to see
living there right? And so I'm
surprised by the sense
demographics are actually
lower than what it might look
like. And we are relying on
census data demographics
Babcock. We actually get that
directly from the developer
from their internal surveys.
Next slide, those barrier
island that's could it be that
those are cook? Those are new
construction, but could be
that those houses were
completely wiped out. And now
you're building a brand new
house on a wiped out live.
>> Absolutely. Not review the
demo permits. Your apps are
you absolutely correct. In
this happening there
>> Comm. Constance: and then,
you know, with burnt store
road, not having enough
commercial. Remember know if
we've mentioned this before,
but a bunch of commercial was
repurposed as storm water. For
the road to go And we had a
very heated conversation in
these chambers with zoning and
planning to try to figure out
why was that done? I never
think I thought that never
should have been done. I think
that never should have been
allowed. Those areas were set
up for commercial if they
wanted to find storm water,
they needed to find something
else. But we so now what's
happening is we're having to
repurpose residential back to
commercial. It's crazy, but
that that that's the situation
that we're you're, you know,
that's what you're pointing to
for the future. It would. Now
you have a believe 2 parcels
are 2 groups of parcels down
there now that there's a newer
one, I think that was just
approved for think is that
180,000 or something like
that?
>> Comm. Constance: And so now
you you. I think you have the
lands available now. It's more
about the developers in the
money, the financing, getting
that in and maybe some, but
they're waiting for us see
just how those 3 projects are
progressing. But certainly
we're going to see more
commercial down that way. I
can't speak to why commercial
and was and maybe that was dot
and you know, you owe that But
so then just if you could get
back to us with commercial
vacancy rates and industrial
vacancy rates just so we can
understand.
>> I don't really have the
vacancy rates on that. I have
that amount of commercial
square footage and acres. I
don't have the guts. Isn't
Doesn't that come into your
calculus? You say we're we're
short. But then if the vacancy
rates are high, then where are
we?
>> Well, they can me points
about the use is not
necessarily space. All right.
You see few scenes left data
places see a different region.
A move in southern place comes
to life. Trader Joe's located
in one of the year blazes that
was unsuccessful. I guarantee
that we can on new magnet
because people want my final
question is how much?
>> Are you seeing businesses?
>> Comm. Constance: Trying to
build workforce housing on
their property because I've
always felt that's the future.
Are the embracing that?
Because you brought it up a
little bit. But for me, it
makes the most sense that you
buy 50% more land than you
think you're going to need for
your use. And you put in some
multifamily units for your
work force. And it's part of
the package deal. And, you
know, you can attract folks
that you can pay them a decent
wage and not worry about
commute, not worried about
them having affordability of
love to work for you, but i
can't find place to live.
>> The 2 groups have seen do
that for better or worse. Our
hospitals, healthcare and
school districts. I'd like see
more of that. Don. I also
learned when we see affordable
housing is only for for 30
years and like the magic. The
problem goes away, which it
doesn't. That's a definition
for different day. As always.
Thank you for your time.
You're not a decision to
Probably one of the most
important updates we get is
Welp you know, floodplain
better. I think it's important
to keep the regular updates
coming so we can keep looking
for the little things along
the way. The for become big
things. Thank you. Thank you,
Director. Thank you. Do that
as well. Thank you. Again,
these are always they're
enjoyable to go I know for
some people it MAY be mundane.
>> Comm. Truex: But like you,
I love getting into data and I
find fascinating. And then
also really does help this
board with the futures. How we
continue to change and modify
for what's coming. So thank
you, c 2, thank you all very
much. Yeah, thanks for the
information. Commissioner
Constance, I would say whoever
was on the board during that
burnt store.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Land
acquisition. The board approve
those purchases. Weather was
to eminent domain if the board
didn't want to use that
particular property for storm
water, they should have just.
Denied the purchase. Not
really. I wasn't here back
then. But you know, if the
complaint is the county used
commercial property for storm
water. I mean, the board
approved it doesn't happen in
a vacuum. So again, I wasn't
here back then and again,
thank you the information as
it is a great planning tool.
And I would point to our most
recent budget hearing. Where
we have our budget divided up
into 2 big parts operating
capital. And you can see the
Capitol part is increasing to
reflect those infrastructure
requirements that you're kind
of talking about in this. I
think the board recognizes
that as well you know, going
for, you know, 20 year sales
tax period this time. And
we've we've loaded it with
items from our cna Capital
needs assessment to make sure
we're addressing those things
for the long term so that that
was one of the things that
we're doing as a board
commissioned or you're
recognized, sir, they mature.
And again, thank you very
much, sir.
>> keen eye on our building
permits and CEOs they serve,
you know, See if shift in
prevent, you know, because
that I think that's the data.
I look at our report. We get
from community development
every month. It's hanging
right in it over 200 CEOs per
month. That's pretty
astounding. Yeah, regionally
speaking, I think pretty.
>> you're headed to that
point, like a good quick shed,
a tear prince. She has been a
huge asset to us and in
providing data is very, very
do our job. She just she, you
know, has me on Saturday
Sunday. She's she's a Prince.
Thank you very much. Thank for
the comment on the sites are
MR. Khan Mr, CHAIRMAN On the
But could we go? Yeah, public
hearing and yes, I was going
to say that next. Ok? Thank
you, sir. Thank you.
>> Comm. Tiseo: There's no
objection from the board. I
wanted to dispense with it too
adventhealth bond issue. We
have represent representative
to the hospital that have been
here. There's no objection.
We're gonna go ahead and do
that. Who is going to present
on that? Chair? I can. I can t
up just a couple points on. So
we have been coined record,
sir. So I have to Florence
County administrator, but I
appreciate their team because
we've been Corning with
Adventhealth and their team on
This pond issue item here is
required before our
jurisdiction in which the
project is located. We the
county has no liability or
risk associated with the van
were helping facilitate the
hearing and the requested
resolution and then attending
in We've got Adam Johnson, ceo
of Adventhealth and Kaylee,
Tuck from get Great Robinson
is a Fort Myers office. The
thank you for waiting and
being with us. And then on
teams. We have Chris Wall
Wrath and Kristen Wash Hilson
their bond council with the
firm of Chapman and Cutler.
And then I'm going to turn it
over to Chris. Believe he's
there on teams and he'll speak
to the the purpose of the
hearing and the requested
resolution approval. So,
Chris, it's all yours. Thanks
for weighing about.
>> No Thank you very much.
Good morning, everybody. 10%.
I personally for the records
up. Sure. Christopher from
Chapman and Cutler, we are
fine counsel to Adventhealth.
Thank you. Okay. Welcome as
Hector said, the reason for
the hearing today at the
request for resolution is
authorize Adventhealth and
they're issuing partners. Both
the Colorado Health Facilities
Authority and the Highlands
County Health Facilities,
Authority to issue tax exempt
revenue bonds for the system.
In this case, for the
facilities that they now own
in Port Charlotte, the way
that the federal income tax
law works in order to go ahead
and finance something out of
basis. You need to have public
hearing and location for all
the projects are located. And
so that's the request for this
hearing today. The materials
that you have in front of you
authorize bond in the amount
up to 400 million dollars each
program. So 400 million
dollars for the facilities in
Port Charlotte over the next 3
years by the Colorado Health
Facilities Authority and by
the Highlands County Health
Facility Authority. All of
these issuers have
cross-border powers and that's
why we're able to go ahead and
finance facilities outside of
Colorado went outside and
Highlands County with with
Even though the that that is
sure doesn't have a prime
location. And Charlotte
County, as Hector said,
there's no liability.
Charlotte County here this
hearing is is just for federal
income tax purposes. Only the
county's name will be on any
of the offering documents has
no liability. You know, with
respect to this is a very
common plan that we do across
the country to get approvals
like this and greatly
appreciates the county's
ability assist us in this
endeavor and will allow us to
to finance facilities at Port
Charlotte Hospital over the
next several years that I had
a more cost-effective pace.
>> Thank you, sir. Any
questions for open the public?
Ok, we're hoping to sign up to
the public. Anybody wishing
speak on this item. You'll
have 5 minutes state your name
for the record. Anybody from
the public wishing to speak on
item t to please come forward
state. Name for the record.
You have 5 minutes. MR.
CHAIRMAN, as you know, in
rising moved close public
input so that motion second
close public input. Is there
any further discussion? There
any opposition to motion that
passes unanimously, MR.
CHAIRMAN with a resolution
motion resolution. Is there
any further discussion? There
any opposition to the motion
that passes unanimously ok?
Thank you, sir.
>> Excellent. Thank you,
everybody. Thank you. We're
gonna go back to our regular
agenda. Item. S 3, 2026 local
government area of
opportunity. Missus, Turner,
you're recognized to present.
>> Good morning commissioners
for the record calling Turner
Charlotte County, Human
Services. I'm here this
morning behalf of the
Affordable Housing Advisory
Committee presenting to you
their recommendation for 2026
local government area of
opportunity. What is it's a
method where local government
is given an opportunity to
determine where affordable
housing is located in our
community. Designed by Florida
Housing Finance Corporation so
that we have some skin in the
game. This is a permanent
source of funding and each
local government can come in
one commitment. Funding. For
any particular rfa. There are
several priority goals. The
Florida House and will fund in
2026. And permit ready
projects are given a priority.
Boost for each goal.
Continuous support
year-over-year of a project
results in higher priority in
Florida. Housing our face. So
for 2026, Florida housing
issued there are a Fe 2026 to
a one, which is the 9% low
income housing tax credit for
small and medium counties.
That was issued on JULY. 16th
applications are due AUGUST
11. Applicants to that rfa
must secure verification of
local contribution of a
minimum of $340,000. While
that can be issued and a grant
or loan. Our proposal is for
alone. Charlotte home and the
board of County Commissioners
issued an rfa on. MAY 4th with
a deadline of JUNE 5th and we
received 2 applications.
Provided for you is an
overview of various nuances of
each property each proposal
and you can see in this
side-by-side comparison. That
they ranked fairly similarly
both properties, both proposed
properties are very desirable
to your affordable Housing
Advisory Committee and staff.
They scored very nearly the
same slightly lower. Am I on
average for a blue Jeep Creek?
2. Slightly closer proximity,
2 shopping in employment and
things of that nature for
Murdoch Square. Back up a
little bit. Deep Creek, 2 is
phase 2 of a project that you
awarded lga. 0, 2, in 2020.
22. That is 70 units of
affordable housing. This
phase. 2 proposal would bring
an additional 84 units of
affordable housing on the same
site. You can see the unit
next for those units that
they're proposing and the rent
range. Recognizing that these
are one and 2 bedroom.
Apartments. The loan terms for
should blue Deep Creek be
selected is a 30 year at. 3.6,
2%. Amortized for 30 years.
The term 15. Their estimated
Lisa would be MAY of 2028.
Their experience, their
ability to provide property
management, things of that
nature are are listed here
included in their full
application. That was provided
to you and they are currently
in partnership with us on a
couple of affordable housing
developments and they are in
good standing and in
compliance with rental
monitoring. They're not permit
ready. They do not have
continuous local government
support. They are in an op
area of opportunity, but they
do not meet the statistical
area of difficult development
area criteria. Those 3 things
are priority goals for Florida
housing. Blue Decree perceived
as Charlotte home score of 86.
Murdoch Square. Slightly
larger 88 units of affordable
housing on veterans. This is a
live local act proposed
property. For families. It's a
mix of 1, 2, 3 bedroom
apartments. Their rent range
is shared. They're am I on
average is slightly higher
because as they noted in their
comments, they intend to serve
a few up to 70% area. Median
income. So that changed. Their
score slightly within
Charlotte home. Same long
terms for the 340,000. If it
is awarded to them with the
exception of a slightly higher
interest rate of 4.9, their
lease is anticipated for
OCTOBER of 20. Their
experience, their ability to
provide property management is
explained in the overview and
their full application that
was provided to We have no
prior performance concerns or
conditions to share because
we've not partnered with them
and affordable housing
previously. They are not yet
permit ready. They did receive
2025. Local government support
this year would give them 2
years of continuous support.
They are in an area of
opportunity and they do meet
the side. Goal. They received
a score of 82. So we had an
open public review and scoring
session for the Review
Committee on JUNE. 15th. As I
noted, Lou, Deep Creek had a
slightly higher score. And the
most competitive for the
Florida housing rfa 2026. To a
one it was deemed to be
Murdoch Square. The Affordable
Housing Advisory Committee. I
see a typo. They met JUNE
24th, not the 23rd and they
had much deliberation and saw
that same overview receive
some additional documentation
from the housing trust group
about there impression about
there competitiveness in the
rfa this year. They agree.
Both projects are very highly
desired, but we can only
choose one and they opted to
go for the one who would be
most competitive. But the
Florida housing rfa process in
2026. So that is their
recommendation to you. Some
key factors to consider as you
deliberate to your local
preferences one minute,
please.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Can you
explain again? Just so it's
clear why the Murdoch squares
most likely to be funded.
>> I can. There are. I believe
8.
>> Separate goals that Florida
House and will fund in their
rfa process as they review
applications.
>> And one is current local
government support. One is
continuous local government
support for 2 years. Once
sunrail goal that doesn't
apply to us one is for the and
and saga goal.
>> When from Ation, what aside
stands for again.
>> Statistical area of
difficult development area.
Kind of strange, but that is
what it is. The bottom line
is. Housing trust Group
contends that they qualify for
5 of the 8 separate goals
within Florida Housing's
review process and that blue
to creek would this year only
qualify for 3 of those same
goals. So the likelihood of
housing trust group having
more bites at the apple, so to
speak is is their contention.
They both agreed, however, in
discussions that because
neither of them right now at
the time of application permit
ready. Funding for either of
them in the cycle Less likely
because in each goal, Florida
housing the permit ready.
Project. That means first and
then others, if possible.
Thank you help. So for Blooded
Creek, this is the completion
of phase 2 of an existing
development in Deep Creek. All
tenants or below 60%. Am I?
Area median income? That's a
little less competitive in
2026. They stated earlier and
continue to contend they will
be permit ready in time for
2027 and their belief is with
local government support in
2026. And local government
continuous support in 2027.
They would be most competitive
4. That cycle next year for
the 9% tax credit for Blooded
Creek, Square. On the other
hand, it's a new development
in Port Charlotte. It's a live
local act location. I-44 1% of
their tenants would be
slightly higher than 60%. Am
I? They are more competitive
in this cycle and we do
believe we do agree with that
contention staff to agree that
they are more competitive in
2026, they're eligible for 3
goals. And they have proximity
to medical work. In the past.
You funded the brand is p#
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Gorda. 3 by new star
Development and you have
funded Blue Deep Creek phase.
One, I believe sky
communities. They are about to
lease up and we are very
excited about that. Probably
more likely AUGUST. Then JULY.
I also want to note that both
developers are in the room as
are a have members. Who were
present for the deliberation
on JUNE 24th and open to have
any discussion answer any
questions you might have. We
are asking that you consider
the a hack reccomendation for
local preference and select
your preferred development
that you authorize a $340,000
Affordable Housing Trust Fund
loan for the selected
applicant based on their
proposed terms. And that that
loan would be contingent upon
the award of the Florida
Housing Finance Corporation
for for like Tech, and that
you would authorize the
CHAIRMAN To sign the require
verification of contribution
forms on behalf of the
selected development. Yeah, I
would
>> Comm. Tiseo: are you all up
to date? Obviously I've been
on a hack for a long time. I
was at the last meeting. Both
applicants came in had an
opportunity present. Take una
from all the members. It was
very, very good, thorough
discussion. As you all know,
hack has some really, really
good knowledgeable people.
Very engaged group in
everything affordable housing,
which is our role. We made
that recommendation again
through those vigorous
discussions. There was one
person who did not support the
recommendation at of the
group. It was because of
Murdoch Square property with
some in gress egress. I think
to the rear of the property, I
believe the applicant
subsequently submitted a site
plan addressing that issue.
But other than that. That was
it. Everybody else was in full
support and the man and it
came down from me and I think
to the members, which one was
most likely to be funded. And
I asked professional staff. I
Missus Turner, what was your
professional opinion? And she
stated today that Murdoch
Square is the most likely to
be funded. Are bold goal is to
get affordable housing. Into
the marketplace and so we
support the one most likely to
succeed. So that was a little
bit of background on the
discussions that we had isn't
a hack. Again, both applicants
were there had had a chance to
present and engage with our
group. Answer questions. So
any other comments on this
item? We'll need We'll need a
motion. There's 3 parts to
this. I will note in in the
packet provided for you.
>> I was asked to prepare
excerpt minutes from that
dialogue at the apec meeting.
Those are there and attached.
That is the come head-to-head
comparison provided by Housing
Trust group. At that time on
JUNE 24th to be a hack after
that Florida housing amended
their their rfa slightly and
it shifted some things that
increased their
competitiveness and they
provided a supplemental
updated head-to-head
comparison from their
perspective about their
competitiveness that was
provided based on guidance
from administration and the
county Attorney and commission
to you as well for your
review. And so that the public
would have access to that as
well. So those 2 items are
attached year agenda so that
you can see from housing trust
groups perspective about their
competitiveness at state are
>> Comm. Tiseo: I think you
stated in the presentation,
the biggest issue I think we
had as we head to great
projects. That's it. That's
the problem. It's an
embarrassment of riches. Kerry
likes to say I had missed
commissioner Doherty but MR.
Davidson, the cute like you're
from legal first. Absolutely.
Okay. I'm down turnout. Just
like to ask Linda come There
was part of that motion to
just described the issue with
the loan terms and make sure
the board's clear and what
that issue is.
>> I
>> He's morning to Good
morning. Commissioners,
Clinton, Pruitt, for the
record. My question is part of
the request was for you guys
to make a motion to approve
the developer and to issue a
loan, provided the received
their award from the rfa
contingent upon the developers
long terms. And I want to make
sure we flush out if we know
what own terms are so that I
will know what that these
people when I get ready to
draft these documents. That's
important. So we don't have to
come back to you for
clarification. Do you want the
applicant to come up and speak
to the think it's important
for the board to understand
what those provision alone
terms would so that they are
drafted in the document,
meaning the loan terms from
the county to the developer,
from the county to the
developer. Correct? These are
some basics.
Commissioned already.
>> Comm. Doherty: Thank you,
MR. CHAIRMAN. Well, both. I've
had had the opportunity
discuss both projects, both
applicants. They're both
excellent.
>> I agree with comment.
>> Comm. Doherty: a struggle
right now with Murdoch Square.
And I understand why the
committee made the
recommendation for the highly
probable that they would score
better. But, you know, my
concern is we just had a
presentation on the need for
industrial plant in Charlotte
County. This is on 4 acres
industrially zoned property.
Small, small parcel the other
issue of guy is. I think it's
88 units on 4 acres. 22 units
break. I saw the conceptual
site plan absolutely no area
for storm water management.
Probably I've I've vaulted put
under par Raymond James
Stadium for the Buccaneers,
the target across the street,
vaulted underneath the parking
lots because they didn't have
real estate to put open storm
water so it can be done. But
it seems fly in the face of
affordable housing. That's not
it's not inexpensive will be,
but that one it's end. I saw
access issues. I do not want
to see a dry. We are Veterans
Boulevard. You know, I think
coming out on Kenilworth
makes. And so I have more site
plan issues with that project
and its only conceptual at
this point. I understand that.
But I do have some concerns
over that converting that
industrial property when we
just got a presentation that
were grossly short on
industrial. And that's all I
just want to get that out. Any
comments on the implications
commission recognized. Thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> I had I had some concerns
on veterans. But when they
added the rear entrance to it,
you know that to me made a lot
of sense. I think you need to
have a full flow throughout
front and back on it for
access emergency access. You
don't want to have to send.
Fire trucks will wear in the
back kennel, work come into a
facility like that. So I think
they have access in 2
directions for public safety
perspective. I think it's it's
good. The storm water could be
an issue. I looked at that
too. And I was worried about
buffers and they they're
willing to address buffers
within just industrial mixed
or baby. Our Zara guess,
right? So that was a concern
we need the housing we know.
We've been short for many,
many years. And yes, I we
could have both of them. I do.
But I think we can have both
of them. But I think we have
to go with the one that has
best possible chance of being
funded first, just like x
said. And so I've make the
motion that we. Approve
Murdoch Square as requested, I
can switch with screens.
Sorry. Parts a b and parts a b
and c. And we need to add
clarification balloon terms to
this. That motion.
>> I'll second that discussion
Commissioner David. But I I
know. I the peco all way to
Gotta take not want that
occur. Smart.
>> Comm. Deutsch: I think the
there are some low in terms in
this overview here. I think
those are the basic long-term.
So I think what we could, but
I would recommend MISTER
Chairs that that the documents
drafted pursuant to the county
attorneys review sufficiency
and will take the rest of that
from there. I think that
should work out and will
follow what we have done in
the past that. I think the
basic terms are they're okay.
But they're obviously it's
it's an agreement. So they'll
be a lot of other things in
there. So will make a draft if
we can't come to a conclusion
or reasonable understanding
with the applicant that we
will come back to the board.
>> Comm. Doherty: Who should
order I have really no
objection to the motion. I
just again. Good, great
project. I guess if it's a
write-in, write out a
veterans, no median openings,
you know, that makes sense.
Obviously needs the back for
safety, but really have have
the selling Yeah, all stuff
can get work out. I think the
applicant has heard the
concerns and, you know, I
wouldn't have any objection to
actually, you know, that's a
lot of units on that 4 acres,
you know, and I you know,
maybe maybe it's a other are
architectural and engineering
solutions that could think
more affordable but anyways,
that's lie can, sir. That's
all I think. We approved 600
units for the Murdoch for the
track. What was on Bachmann
track Mark, the other than we
talk about hundreds of you've
got some. You've got some real
estate to work with there. And
I get over to about access
totally get it. You know, I
have no objection. The motion
okay. So is there any further
discussion? Is there any
opposition to the motion that
passes unanimously? We move on
to item number s.
>> For Port Charlotte Beach,
the schedule. MR. Scott,
you're recognized to present
And eye on that last night. I
really do want to thank the
applicants that tell you it
was it wasn't contentious, but
they were they were supporting
their position at hack
meeting. It was great in a way
to hear that they want to be
here in Charlotte County,
partner with us in any way
possible to provide affordable
housing. I encourage you to
keep coming back. We supported
phase one. Unfortunate this
time for face to it wasn't
there. But but we're here to
support affordable housing.
Thank you for for thinking
about Charlotte County thank
you for that very can vary
from very competitive prior to
that. And the applicants know
that. I think they both
recognize very competitive.
Has got recognize good morning
times got to service director.
>> I wanted to bring forward.
The actual requested motion is
going to be a resolution of up
that our fee schedule updating
it specifically in Port
Charlotte Beach. But I wanted
to take the opportunity to
kind of go through a
presentation. I'm just kind of
walk you through kind of the
research that we had done. The
benchmarking comparisons
because this is a slight
change of how we have done our
normal rental rights. So this
will kind of just walk through
or get a little bit of brief
history curfew schedule, some
of benchmarking be done and
then we'll get weeded and then
we'll get to the proposed fee
schedule for consideration. So
again, obviously, you know,
some of this history, but the
facility came on the ground
and back in the 70's to make
event space restrooms in a
public pool. It's been
renovated several times
through the years, including
some recovery efforts after
Hurricane Charley most
recently back in 18 19, we did
the parking lot renovations
for drainage and the sailing
center was ad which was a one
percent local sales tax
project. Here we So some
pictures of what the building
used to look like. So this is
how it was. And like kind of
open state. An aerial of what
it look like on. You can see
the large outdoor deck, which
was a great place for weddings
and other events to happen. We
did a multitude of different
kinds of events where they
were county directed or mostly
user directed event, rental
tight spaces, but heavily used
by our community for many,
many years. And we fast
forward some of these pictures
that, you know, happened
through Hurricanes, Helene and
Milton, but both facilities
have sustained damage for the
multitude of hurricanes that
we've experienced over the
last 5 years. So this kind of
gives you this is the
rendering of what the new
port, Charlotte Recreation
Center. We'll look like the
right was a recent aerial that
was provided to us by the
contractor. But as you can
see, it is coming out of the
ground for those. You haven't
been there in a while. The
sighting is complete. They're
working to finish up the
roofing and the ndp is getting
near completion as well. So
they are moving along. There
are substantial completion
date is still Christmas Eve
DECEMBER 24th of this year and
then we'll move into the
spring of next year. As we
outfit the building for
operation, which is really the
main reason that we want to
have this conversation is we
need to be ready to start
renting the facility. People
are already been asking. So
establishing these rental
rates is why we're bringing
this forward now, before we go
into the AUGUST break so that
we can have some rights ready
to go. So our current fee
schedule for indoor space is
really geared towards square
footage by our right. And it
is pretty much universally
applied throughout all of the
facilities underneath
community services, purview it
really doesn't have any real
guidance toward the structure
that might be on the
waterfront. That is more event
space. It's just if you want
to rent. It is based upon
square footage in by hour. So
we went through the exercise
of doing original comparison
of both share Sarasota and Lee
and Charlotte County event
facilities to really try and
get a benchmark of what is in
the market in our competitors
and what they're doing.
Because, again, this is an
event and it will draw in.
We've already had people who
are inquiring about rentals
for it. So we looked at a
myriad and it runs the gamut
right size price. How they
break it down for additional
costs because most of them not
only are you paying rental
cost, but then you're charged
for every chair, every table.
Every and you want to borrow
everything as well. So we
really look at all of those to
really kind of get us to the
nexus of where we're at in our
proposed rental rates. But
generally speaking, the
there's 3 for rental spaces at
new building that's coming out
of the ground. There is a
joint space that can be
divided in half. There's a
large base and then there's a
smaller conference meeting
room space. So we looked at
this small and this small
meeting room categories for
the benchmarks for somewhere
between 70 to to 50 an hour
somewhere between 300 to 600 a
day. Right? That event spaces,
which are the bigger ones. And
again, they vary in size even
and I have another slide that
we also looked at the event
center here on down the
harbor, specifically those
those are varying as well. But
anywhere between 5,002 1000
per day, most other facilities
are charging you again for all
of those extra things, tables,
chairs, all that kind of
stuff. So we really tried to
stay kind of in the middle and
around most of those things.
But with a new concept for our
rentals that will talk about
here in second. I thought I
heard you say 5,000, 500 a
tooth ok, The numbers just
rolled together 500 to 1000 on
that event. Space per day. Ok?
Sorry about that. That's
right. So the event center,
this so this is kind of my
soft launch into how dynamic
pricing work. So the event
center has part of their fee
schedule that we bring to the
board. They have a dynamic
pricing all not
not-for-profit, obviously a
commercial which we have as
well. But they also have a
model for in season and out of
season, right? So when they
can meet demand, the price
goes up for that as well. But
here are their prices that
they have. Again, the range on
the hall's between I-95 and
1040. That really is where
they start getting into the
sum of their dynamic pricing
of in season and out of
season. So for our as we came
in with the proposal of again,
the large, which is the
because you the square footage
we're looking at basically the
cat count. One is the
nonprofit Cat who is the
for-profit, right? That is
just continuing how we have it
for all of our other
facilities. We're looking at
doing it day weekday rate,
which is Monday through
Thursday and then a weekend
rate, which is Friday,
Saturday, Sunday. Those are
peak times that the peak use
when people want to rent the
facilities. So we're proposing
a shift differential in that
for the dynamic pricing, the
other change that I will point
out is also in going from an
hourly rate to a day rate
right? It is difficult to be
able to in a facility like
this. We just don't see it?
Multiple events going on in
the same space that were
turning in a day. People are
reading it. It's for the day.
And so we just went to that
pricing instead of doing it by
our it makes it Now, again, we
can do multiple events and
multiple spaces, but we're
just not turning the room so
we can have an event going on
in the larger and we could
have 2 different events going
on in the split rooms. It's
just not taking the large room
and doing it 2 or 3 times a
day just for set up and what
events use. It just doesn't
work like that. So we went to
it a day rate.
>> As I mentioned, all of our
in-house equipment is all
included in that pricing,
which isn't a nice change. I
think that we have as well.
The other thing I'll point out
as we did build in as you see
the designs. And if you
remember a port Charlotte
Beach, a catering kitchen,
which we think is an amazing
amenity. We had a kitchen in
the old building. It had a had
a commercial hood on it. But
it wasn't great. This is a
full on cooking catering
kitchen. What sets us apart
from other people as we do not
have catering even at the
event center, they have
in-house food and beverage
services. So you have to
utilize their service. Most
other event spaces throughout
the regions. If the same model
you can rent the space. But
then you also have to use our
facilities. Most hotels at
Purdue events is very same
model. Ours is. We have a
space. If you want to use it,
you can cook and bring from
home. You can hire your own.
You can do whatever you want.
There's a right to use the
space, but we're not
dictating. You have to use
ours that reduces costs for
event. Users introduced
provides flexibility if they
just want to cook it
themselves or bring from home.
We're not limiting that
factor. But that significant
difference between us and
pretty much most other event,
rental spaces that are out
there. We have for a proposed
these through the Parks,
Recreation Advisory Board and
they had provided their
unanimous support as a
recommendation to this board
for this, the schedule that
you see before you. This just
kind of give you some
comparisons of where we were.
Again, it's not actual apples
and apples, which just because
of per square footage per
hour. But this will kind of
give you ranges. So we're in
the range of where we were
before, where a little bit
higher than we were before,
especially when we start
adding on the dynamic pricing
for the weekends. But again, I
think you asked us to build a
top notch event facility,
which we have done. We have
already have people that are
waiting on a decision on the
rental rate so they can start
booking out their events so we
these proposes proposed fees
are within the range in the
and provide a great
opportunity for the community.
So that all stand for any
questions you all might have
about our proposed fee
schedule. So the fact that
there's nobody the queue sell
jump in real quick.
Neighborhood. Watch.
>> Out there. They have
meetings out there. I think
they used to meet in the old
facility from time to time.
And I think they used billions
as well. They reserve the
billions they have used both
pavilions right now,
obviously, but they MAY want
to get back into the building.
It's a small group. What they
pay. Based on the schedule.
What what would they have been
charged before? It was
demolished? The in the old
facility for the space they
used.
>> I'm not sure what room size
that would be. So I have the
old room science and water,
size with a fall into today.
So the old rooms, the smaller,
which is the one that was kind
of a closest to where the
outdoor dec was was about 975
square feet. So they would
have paid they nonprofit rate,
which was $200 a day. If you
do that by hours. So in
looking at excuse me, it's
about $25 an hour is what they
were paying before. So that
came out to about $200 a day.
So so what are they pay before
I don't have their exact
rental What they paid before.
That's just how it would have
been applied I don't have a
rental okay for them. So don't
have that.
>> Comm. Tiseo: I'm just
trying to figure out could you
know those small groups? It's
important. You know
historically they met there
and I don't know for pricing
them out with this schedule.
That's what trying to compare
for the size room that they
would have used back in the
day. And then what room with
they use now if they asked you
to reserve a room for a
meeting? So honestly, if it
was my my comparison for them
would probably the conference
room.
>> Right, which on this is in
the middle of 336 square feet,
right? So there's the large
event space, divide, a
ballroom event space. And then
we built in this conference
room space to allow kind of
those smaller groups. So
probably that and or if they
need to maybe move to one of
the divide Abul spaces, which
is the be slash sea space
which get you up into that 800
square foot space.
>> Comm. Tiseo: So so room
d-conn for $250 a day,
correct? So if they needed
just for like a two-hour
meeting, they pay the one we
one 50 day, ok, and before
that they pay by the hour.
Paid by the also would have
been 5th. 25 bucks an hour.
Correct? Okay. So.
Theoretically, if they needed
the roofer two-hour meeting,
it would pay 50 before. Now
it's about 150. I have a
little issue with
affordability. For that on on
that. And being at that being
at the facility watching it go
up. We have usable space now
because we've raised the
facility thousands of square
feet underneath. How is that
going to be handled somebody
wanted to use that and maybe
meet there, how we going house
the public and have access
because they're finishing the
ceiling there and they're
putting in lighting. So what
is that going to be used for?
>> So we have a program that
as event space. But to your
point, it is usable space,
right? So we haven't gotten
that far down into it. And
again, we rent pavilions,
right? So people can use that.
i'm sure as it comes out of
the ground we see with that
usage looks like whether it is
events that won an outdoor
space that there is the
outdoor deck on the built the
building, the current
building, right? Could they
want an overflow? That's
downstairs? Absolutely. We
haven't gotten to that and
figuring out exactly what that
looked like. We don't know
what that demand will be for
underneath. But to your point,
they're absolutely a space
underneath there that can be
used for just general public
to be able to be out of the
sun will near the water. How
it folds into event rentable
space. I don't have an answer
for that yet. We want really
see how the demand looks.
>> Comm. Tiseo: Yeah, I think
that's going to be really
important that we start
game-planning because it's
thousands of square feet of
usable space. I think it's got
at least a 10 foot ceiling or
9 foot ceiling with when they
the effort they put the
finishing swimming with a
finishing on and you've got
views of the water and you're
fully protected from the
elements underneath Weathersby
picnic tables and are there
for people to meet. I don't
know if that's going to you're
going to have some type of
decorative aluminum fence to
stop people from sleeping
there overnight. Things like
that. But we're going to have
to address it because it is a
lot of space. A lot of usable
space and we need to somehow
full that into this schedule
of uses and who can use it.
Because that's not really
being addressed here because
on day one, if we open, what's
it going to be? Going People
just wonder under their walk
around and hang out like ride
your bicycle when your bicycle
up against the wall and, you
know, take a gander at the
harbor. So to that address,
all it.
>> As a rentable space, we
want to really let demand
right how we're going to
navigate that, which is why
it's not included here right?
We update our annual fee
schedule annually 21. The
schedule and so we can address
that. And every year we can
bring back any potential
changes. And we do that right.
What we have till DECEMBER the
you know, if everything goes
on schedule to maybe up before
DECEMBER, I'd like staff to go
back and take a look at that
usable space and come up with
some game-planning. I don't
want to wait till after we
open. I think. If again, if
you haven't seen it, it is a
lot of space. We need to
figure it out now, rather than
later and we can do But but to
your other question, if we are
having an event going on the
general public, as you know,
the ability to go underneath
or if it's not part of an
event that is going on. Yes,
that is one of the reasons we
built it so people could get
out of the sun underneath and
be able to utilize that
facility as well. So it's not
being used as part of an event
that's rented absolutely want
the public to be able utilize
that space as well.
Commissioner Constance and
already. Thank you, MISTER
Chair.
>> Comm. Constance: Tell me
why do we have half day
rentals when we have day
broken up a little more?
Because I mean, obviously, if
I know that I'm going to have
an event and I need the whole
day or even 2 days because I
want to set up today before,
you know, that's fine. You
can. Why not have fractions of
the day? What's the problem?
>> So for us when we went back
and looked at our that average
uses, if you will, of people
that are renting out. The
majority of them are pushing
beyond just the 2 couple
hours, we do have some
meetings to commissioner to
sales point. There are there
were meetings that were just a
couple hours here and there
traditionally were renting out
for longer than that. And we
went to this as we can slice
this cake. However, you'd like
it. It just gets into the
complexities of
implementation. Absolutely if
you would like us to provide
that, it just it just gets
into how many ways do you want
to slice it and then we'll
we'll build that for Well, and
I mean, you know, I think for
some of the smaller rooms, I
think, you know, we want to
slice it into a brownie trade.
I mean, I think we need to
have situation where,
>> you know, and and we got to
get technology. So I need I
don't need people there. I
don't want you using your
staff. I want people to go
online, be able to reserve a
room for certain amount of
time. They get a qr code that
go over. They pop it on to the
scanner at the door, the door
on locks and they use their
room. We need to have hands
free. And this is this is the
technology that should be
built into this place. And I'm
sure that's not what's
happening, but we need to do
that because you're not
getting any more Ft. Ease you
need to use ai and you need to
use technology to do a lot of
what the functions are. The
traditional you need to get
somebody down there open the
doors and all that stuff that
we don't need that anymore. We
need to have technology
infiltrating this facility so
that people are not part of
the equation until it's
custodial or it's, you know,
things that have to get done
manually. The other part of
this is that and I agree with
the CHAIRMAN Of space
underneath. You know, you do
rent that pavilions, but you
don't have to rent the
pavilion. You can come and
show up. And if nobody else
has rented that facility at
Harbour Heights or any of your
other parks, they just start
using And I think that's
exactly what we have to allow
for beach complex. The whole
purpose of having it lifted up
was and by the way, those
benches and what are we going
to put down there? They're
going to be flooded away. Look
forward to another flooding
event. So don't spend a
bazillion dollars on those
benches because that's the
stuff that unless you can get
there 2 days before and pull
it all out, hoping that you're
going to say moving upstairs,
I mean, you better have your
contingency plans ready,
because but that spaces for
folks to get out of the sun,
that that is a great purpose.
The other question that I have
for you is those elevators.
Are they piston driven or is
there an elevator box on motor
on top? That's pulling another
because you're p#
#
and
driven. I believe. Okay. So
what are we program then? We
did a lot of resiliency for
the swimming pool. What are we
put? What are we got in place
for locking down you know,
panels over the openings of
the elevators. So when the 6
or 8 feet of water show up
like they did at station 10,
which we still haven't fixed
at a Palm Island with all of
these elevators need to have
those panels ready install so
we can brace for the water
elevation. And then when it
goes away, you pull the
panel's, throw the power and
bam, you have an elevator as
opposed to you'll be offline
for 3 or 4 months until all of
that elevator stuff gets taken
care of. So where are we with
That's a good Find more
information things you think
your kitchen door. The t-Rex.
>> Comm. Doherty: Thank you,
MR. CHAIRMAN. Yeah. As far as
the per day get get just that.
But I would say the larger
spaces, it might make sense to
break that up and have these
2, you know, they have the
right for the largest bases,
the smaller ones them eating
sweets in the conference room.
Quite honestly, you gonna get
hourly people there. So I
think we do need that broken
down per hour as well. But you
have the to the full day
numbers. Look, looks
fantastic. I mean, I'm good
with them. But I do think we
do. And and of course, of the
comments underneath the
building bring that back
eventually. But so you can
comment to people while we're
on break. You know, in AUGUST.
I think this scheduled find
except just. Break it up and
half days for the large spaces
and hourly on those 2, the c
and d space agree with those
comments. Commissioner Truex,
you're recognized, sir. Thank
you, MR. CHAIRMAN, I need you
have tell you, I do your job
that will point out a few
things. Make sure everybody
understands we go a half days.
There's going to turn over
time. They're going to clean
the route. Prep it for
whoever's coming in next.
>> Comm. Truex: So you're
going to have to design with
that have to actually looks
like now because he's going to
start at 9 11, 30 and then
that person can come into 1
o'clock or, you know, how
account flexibility can you
have with that? The the other
thing is with the bigger
rooms. I think it depends on
the the number of people and
what the event is as to
whether or not you're going to
be able to do to events in the
day on some of these bigger
rooms. I were going to provide
you some flexibility, but we
can provide have to be rates
to have to should be more than
half of the full-day, right?
Right. It's got to be more
help cover for the turnover
intellect and stuff. 2 point,
which is why we went to the
full day I understand that.
But understand where the board
sounds like to go. And I don't
necessarily agree or disagree.
I just know that logistically
it's going to be an issue and
that you MAY have to come back
to us and say, look, this is
working.
>> Well, and again, if the
direction of the board is to
provide a half-day to full-day
and we can only rent it for a
half day and then have to sit
vacant because we didn't have
the ability to flip it and
find another user. Then we'll
just get the half-day rate. We
will get a full day rate
right? But what we can
implement anything that will
tell if you want us to do. But
20 that that was the
rationale, specifically why we
went to the larger full day
but yeah, we we can do it. It
just it will potentially
create a position where we're
only reading Half-days right
instead of potentially getting
a full. That's what needs to
be. We need to have higher
number than what we think for
half a day because we're going
to lose efficiencies and we're
going to lose ability for
full-day certain.
>> Situations might have to be
like a half a day premium some
commissioner Constance into
yet. I agree, you know, I
think right, if you cut it in
half its not have too many
money, there's going to be an
additional, you know, kicker
that you've got to work in
because of a low of turning
over.
>> And then there probably
should be a minimum per hour.
Don't just divide by 8 or
whatever the number is for the
smaller, you know, rooms, bc
meeting, Sweet. And that's the
smaller amount of the room.
Conference, you know, you MAY
have to it MAY have to still
be $50 an hour. Something I
don't know what your you've
got to charge, what it's
costing you. So you know, I
get in somebody's looking go
if it's 15, our guests already
for the whole day, but give
them the opportunity to to to
apply for at least a fraction.
>> And you know, everybody
would be that. Thank Thank
Commissioner recognized define
a de force.
>> are in our intention is is
we will do a day so you can
have it from the sun up to the
sun down. If that's what you
want, you can go into the
evening. There's hours in a
day where women don't have any
guidelines on specifically
what someone wants to have a
breakfast they can get in
there at 06:00am. No. And to
that point, yes. So to that,
yes, we have liked the sailing
club, right? They do there.
Got have done their regain
their sailing regatta there in
the past. They started early
right and they get breakfast
is part of their function. We
have people that are doing
weddings until the middle of
the night right? So we want to
be as flexible as we can. We
were really the again, we can
slice up the rates, however we
want. But yeah, we're want to
be as amenable is
accommodating to event
producers on whatever they
need to be in. If they want
early. Great. If they want
late. Great. Then I think
you're going to have to define
your portions of a day by
hours because you're going to
have some groups. But you know
what the breakfast coming this
week?
>> Comm. Deutsch: You know,
they probably will want to
have its the breakfast is
going to be 7, 7.30. They're
going to want to have access
to 06:00am someone's having a
New Year's Eve party, they're
going to want to go to 1
o'clock in the morning. So I
think you're going to need
some defying guidelines in
terms of an hour and then
break it up into segments
because if someone wants to
have a breakfast. There
shouldn't be any is going to
have an afternoon meeting
because the breakfast people
will be out of that 10, 11
o'clock. You could have it
ready for something at 12. 1
o'clock. And is an afternoon
meeting there and someone
wanted to have a dinner That
could also word. I think we
might make sense. It's a take.
An our peer group of span of
hours and then break it into
segments. And then, you know,
you read by that now you have
to decide because I don't know
what to recommend. Is an
evening event worth more per
hour than a breakfast of I
don't know the answer to that,
but I think you're going to
want some equity in terms of
the available hours, but I'm
sure they're going to have
people that are going want to
get in there 06:00am. And you
know that we have some other
things to deal with based on
the type of an event later,
you're going to let them go.
Would you let them go to one
or 2 o'clock in the morning?
For a Let's say so. I think
you've got a little bit more
depth, the Jenin, because
you're going to have some
unique situations come up. So
thank you for your comments. I
appreciate that discharge for
me. These are professional
recommendations based upon the
review of comparable Ys in a 3
county area.
>> If you don't think this is
going to work out well for the
community, we can just stick
with an hourly rate that we're
charging in just a square him
We can make this work. I don't
you think that this is like
we're trying to shoehorn this.
And when you ask about like
morning or night, this is why
there is a proposed one rate
for the day to not make it as
complicated as it can be. When
you start adding different
layers into it, it adds
complexities to the users. How
how much they are trying to
you know, prepare their
budgeting for high only to 4
hours compared to. This is the
simplistic most professional
way of doing it. This is the
way most of it facilities
produce. Their rate schedule
is on this. It's either on a
day rate on an hourly basis.
We are recommending a day for
the east of everyone, but an
hourly can be just as easy. I
mean, if if you would like it
to stick hourly, we have 100%
can do that. That's that's not
that difficult for us to do. I
think you're going to have to
have an open mind on that. The
reason why is?
>> Comm. Deutsch: There are
certain groups that I'm aware
of that least a half a dozen
that have breakfast, they're
not going want to be there in
the And if you have someone to
a breakfast and route of their
10 11 or 10, 30 11, you might
be able to have a lunch and or
isn't of the same day. And if
this is going to be some type
of profit center to some
degree that it's going to help
pay back the cost of the
operation. It might be a
little bit more staff time.
What if you could rent it out
for breakfast, lunch and
supper to 3 different groups.
It's going to financially be
greater benefit to your
operation, but obviously
requires some staff cleanup
time. But I think you're going
to be flexible because of I
was running an evening dinner
or breakfast in the morning. I
really wouldn't want to have
to pay for the whole thing all
day. If I know I'm going to be
out of every 3 hours. So I
think you might want to take a
deeper dive and take a look
those possibilities,
particularly. If you could
have 2 or 3 events of the day
and make them work and have
the staff or make them work
that. You come out. If you
come out a few bucks ahead,
which I think is part of the
goal. Thank you, Sir.
Commissioner Constance, thank
you.
>> Comm. Constance: The time
is your intention for this
facility to be open. 24 hours
a day, 7 days a week.
>> That's what the renters
need. We're willing to meet
whatever the committee wants
us to It.
>> Comm. Constance: And I
guess you just see the fine is
is a day 06:00am to 06:00am.
>> Or
>> Comm. Constance: midnight
to midnight. You know what?
What is what is the day don't
answer that. Now. Look back at
the programming to make it
fit. You know, I would assume
that he's really going to be
there before 06:00am. So maybe
that's when the day starts and
late events that go past
midnight aren't going to
finish much past one or 2. So
but I think that's part of the
calculus that we need to
understand how are you? How is
that being programmed to fit
this? We're Just curious, but
no, I don't have an issue. I
think simplicity because then
you've got to have somebody
sitting there and figuring
this all out unless you want
to leave it to an ai bot. Will
the to your point earlier of
you want the customer to have
the ability to kind of sell
for do it themselves.
>> Comm. Constance: More
layers makes it more difficult
and cumbersome for a user to
do that navigate themselves as
well. And so I'm trying to
take as many fevers notice
possible because I heard a lot
of different feedback. Tried
it. I don't have a consensus.
Nasa, some working on likely
is that you still have the
floor. But was everybody ok
with the dynamic pricing?
>> Just to put that out there.
Which was a Monday through
Thursday, one rate Friday,
Saturday, Sunday, a different
rate. That's that's we. Yeah.
I mean, If your constant use
use No, I appreciate the
research does. This is this is
based on factual stuff. Not
hey, we just pull this out of
the air. So that's important
with the bases.
>> Comm. Constance: It all
makes sense. And I just think
you've heard you've heard the
comments. I don't know that
I'm ready to vote on this. I'd
like you to bring we have
time. You know, you bring it
back. But, you know, take the
comments that have been made
and let's try to make. But I
understand the more complex it
is the war work. It is for one
or 2 of your staff to kind of
keep this all figured out. So.
And come back, please with
with some technology options
because I think that's
important. If there's a way to
to free up rooms with, you
know, digital locks as opposed
to you got to have somebody
there unless somebody is
there. 24 7, but that's that's
another story that's that's 3
fte that have and the
building.
>> Well, it definitely will
take more than 3 ft in the
building, but we have not
built what you're proposing
into the model. So any of
those upgrades or additions to
the building are going to have
to come as and additional
technology package. So I don't
know that will be able to
bring that at the next time. I
bring back rates anybody else?
But that I guess find really
per se in the event world.
Again, let's just use the
event center as an example,
right when you're in a space
that the event center, you go
to an event event center. The
staff there open the doors.
They make sure that everything
from custodial to security to
they're doing fnb as food and
beverage. So they're doing all
of those pieces. And then when
you leave, they locked the
door behind you right? That is
the service that's provided
because these are event
spaces, right? It's not a
pavilion where you're just
going to have a birthday
party. You're going in to have
a wedding for 500 people that
is going to be catered and
have a sit-down plated event,
right? So it's a it's a little
bit different of a model than
some of the things that are
doing. I mean, we have if
somebody wants to rent a park
space or pavilion, you 100%
can go online. Rent that
space. Get your permit and
never have to interact with
any of our staff right. But
the difference between that
and what we're providing at at
this event facility. It's just
light years apart. I have to
do a whole lot of research to
figure out any other event
producing space is doing what
you're proposing. I just don't
know when you if you if you
have this facility in essence,
open 24 hours a day, 7 a week
at minimum, you have to have 3
people.
>> Comm. Constance: 8 hour
shifts for the entire week.
Somebody if one person is
there, that's 3 ft East just
to keep the building open. So
let me just right. Trent
clarified a little bit.
>> We are willing to do. I
anticipate that we're going to
run 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week. Absolutely not. But to
Commissioner Dortches point,
we have somebody who wants to
a breakfast and we have
somebody who wants to have
until 2 in the morning.
There's a dynamic that goes
there. We probably and I know
this is a fact. We don't get a
lot of 02:00am rentals that
are Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday, right? But that
doesn't mean if somebody came
in and wanted to do with that,
we would be willing to. So I
don't want you to think that
we are preparing and staffing
to work. 24 hours a day, 7
days a week 3.65. We are just
willing to work with our
customers to meet whatever
their needs and desires are.
So we're not geared up to do
that. But if an event came in
said we want load in it for to
do a 06:00am breakfast to be
out of that. We're willing to
work with our customers,
period. Thank thank you. I put
myself into queue when you did
your comparison to the other
counties, define what a day
was, wasn't limited to like 8
hours, whether was started no
matter what time it started, 8
hours is considered a day. So
I did as one of the
attachments attach the
comparable benchmarking that
we put in there. So I'm just
don't want go And a teenager
comparable have half day
rentals. I don't believe that.
I remember half day rentals. I
do believe it's day or days or
some had hours, but it's a
matter here's some of the head
of a four-hour max so that
when they could turn quicker,
okay. Because I assume you do
not reinventing the wheel
here. All these other event
spaces that were comparable.
Must've come up against, you
know, hourly half-day. What's
today? And you had mentioned
early, you have people waiting
to lease up is correct. And I
don't want to the labor this
thing much longer when we're
losing out on rentals getting
booked up. But I also want to
do it correctly. I appreciate
the advisory board
recommending the schedule. I
don't I don't necessarily
district this. I don't
disagree with the schedule. My
only issue, my one big issue
is how do we handle the
bottom, which you can come
back later? That's fine on
that. In the affordability to
get to a half a day, if
somebody is literally meeting
for 2 hours, I think you can
sell them on a half a day. If
that's, you know, what do you
consider half a 24 hours a
day, do they get it for 12 day
hours? Is that a half a day?
They see that. That's the
thing. Those are my only 2
issues right now is getting
too being able to lease for
less than a day. And how we
handle the bottom. But we do
need to do. Get this back
before the board as soon as
possible. So you can start
renting up because we're going
to be losing out on on rentals
because we don't have a
schedule. So we need, you
know, we don't have an
approved schedule. Yes, that
is correct. So it's hard to to
lease up. Unless unless you
take deposits the final
schedule just to reserve. So
the people that have been
talking to us are unwilling to
do that until they know what
the rental rates are going to
be because they don't want to
put a deposit down and work
towards a wedding location
that we're going to come back
in SEPTEMBER OCTOBER and tell
them that the rate is
different. Even if they know
having watched this or
whatever, that this is the
range, that that might be a
change, a nexus for them that
they've last month's book of
another venue when when is the
soon as they try to get
JANUARY, we are not looking to
start booking in until
probably MARCH APRIL as what
we're looking at But we have
been asked, we've had people
start asking us as far out as
a year in advance, which is
what we typically will book
out as a year out. So this
past MARCH and APRIL, people
seeing it come out of the
ground, want to know when they
could start renting and we
said we won't rent until we
have board approved for in all
it. No one's looking to get in
there in JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
We're we're okay. Okay. That's
good to know. That's good to
know. But I'm ok generally
with this proposed fee
schedule other than those
things that have already
stated, Commissioner Truex
recognized. MR. I'm gonna make
a motion make a motion that we
approve what's in front of us
today and we add modifications
to it. So anybody who wants to
do a day rental now?
>> Comm. Constance: They can
schedule to tighten and then
we'll figure out the half day
in the downstairs future date.
Beautiful idea. I second was
to it. Yeah.
>> Comm. Tiseo: So we have
motion a second to accept. The
proposed fee schedule has
outlined to come back with
modifications at a later date.
Is there any further
discussion? There any
opposition to the motion
passes 4 to one with
Commissioner Deutsche, an
opposition. Thank you, Tommy.
Thank you. All right. We're
we're going to move on to item
5 approved the resolution
lifting the burn ban. Are
burn. Bans are CHAIRMAN I
think we need to bring Chief
Cara. So he has an easy day
and for the board asked what
have It's going to be in of
the burn bans are is here
today. You're recognize chief
to present a chart here yet.
>> Let's see if we get it this
time.
>> I see if I can get good.
>> Comm. Tiseo: chief wakes up
every morning rolls the dice
burn ban or no burn from
Vancouver. Yeah. All right. So
what's great about this is the
upstart chief backward for the
record. So the great part
about this is the numbers of
keep coming down with all the
rain that we have. So make
this quick for you. You can
obviously stop me at any time
currently the average was at
right around 4.41. At this
date today, the kbi values
actually 3.41. This morning.
So that's a good, good number
for us as opposed to what it
was back then what we heard
last time or what Chief Kerr
heard last time. And I did on
the Facebook as I watched it
was the you wanted more
information. So this breaks
down the information a little
bit better for you guys for
the board. So you can see how
the numbers hold up.
Currently, we only have one
that that number is not 19.
Currently. It's only 3% in
that 500 range. And that's
change from West County to
more of an East County area.
Then we talk about the people
from a drought 146,000, almost
147,000. And then we talk
about the 92%, 30, 30st drip,
dry JUNE and record for us. So
we know it's been dry in JUNE.
We're getting our water back
from now. The rain is
currently and then as you see,
we're down about 2 inches from
that. So keep going. You have
be fast. You go okay. All As
you know, we had dry dry JUNE
and moving into the JULY.
We've got a lot of rain not
near as much as out West are
up north, but we are getting
the rain that we need. It's
going to be hot. Obviously
we're looking at that and then
burn bans all of that counties
around us have lifted their
burn bans. A DeSoto was last
won a lift. There is back in
edge 2 weeks ago in JULY 14th,
the only county that's near
U.S. Test would be hills where
which typically stays on a
burn ban the entire time. So
we're looking for you to
rescind the burn ban. 3rd,
Time's a charm. As I think
someone said week ago. Current
value is 3.41. Today and that
for 15. So we would like any
information on that. Thanks or
Commissioner Doherty.
>> Although only had one
injury to my house in the last
2 weeks, a move approval of
the resolution to second
motion. A second admissions
director that okay, any
further discussion any app
says the motion that passes
unanimously the burn ban is
rescinded. Okay. We'll move on
to item number 6. Thank you,
chief. Yes, we move on to item
number 6, the animal, but
getting Hector, I was going
speak on numbers the next.
Okay. Animal Welfare League
item number 6, MR. Flores,
you're recognized. Okay. Thank
you. MISTER Chair
>> Comm. Constance: the art
speak earlier, tariff from
animal Welfare league kind of
touched on So I appreciate her
comments. The item we did
revise it up. See for the
change memo added the
amendment. Number one of the
agreement we felt it was best
just to make sure we formalize
the extension had offered up
in our in negotiations and
discussions with them. So
that's what that item is. Just
to add, though, we are
shooting for bringing a final
agreement to you at their
SEPTEMBER 8th board meeting. I
believe we'll get there. I
know our team just got some of
their responses. So they're
they're reviewing that as we
speak. And at times outright
your other agenda item, you
adjusted our fine or first
budget public hearing will now
be Monday, SEPTEMBER 14th that
following Monday. So right now
we've got just the current
contract with with Animal
Welfare league. So any
adjustment why would want to
make going into that final
budget public hearing? So?
>> Again, bring it to you is
our goal for SEPTEMBER 8. So
again, appreciate the team in
animal Welfare Really the
folks that have been doing,
obviously the the heavy
lifting on our end. I want to
defer some of that. Thanks and
appreciation to Chief McIlroy
Division manager, Caitlin, so
that they've got their work to
finalize. But that sits up
embracing what we're looking
for. Thank you, sir. To have a
motion to approve amendment
one to the U.S. Really so move
second. We have motion second
to approve manager. Any
further discussion.
>> Any absence, the motion
that passes unanimously move
on to item number 7, Charlotte
County Sheriff's Office
funding opportunity. MR.
Arthur, you're recognize that
afternoon as of right now,
Rick Arthur, fiscal services.
The sheriff is identified in
additional funding
opportunities. So we're just
bringing a resolution
authorizing the county
administrator to apply for
this doj grant on behalf of
the share. Any questions for
staff? Commissioner, do
recognize move the resolutions
motion second move resolution?
Is there any further
discussion? Is there any
opposition to the motion that
passes? You know, Matt
unanimously moving on to item
number 8, set a public hearing
to consider approving an
ordinance to prohibit
oversized vehicles parking on
the county right of way, MR.
Flores. Did you have any
comments on that are going to
present no? I think that it
was just said that I can speak
to it ok, we have we have
major issues in areas where we
have tractor trailers and
>> and bigger. Huge parking in
right away where you can't see
it around corners. It's a
growing problem. Charlotte
County and public works in
legal put together. Those were
the opportunity to bring this
to a close and I would move
approval of scent. Okay. That
we have motion is second to
approve the item. Is there any
further discussion?
Commissioner Constance?
>> Comm. Constance: I'm
appreciative of this and agree
with the moving forward. Also,
there's a lot of trucks that
are just parking on the street
and unloading. And so I I look
to the sheriff and
>> and chief deputy to keep
doing a good job of citing
those trucks. They just.
>> Comm. Constance: Youve got
small roads and you can see
past them in the year. All you
have to go over a double
yellow line. It's absolutely
illegal to be parking, not
just to the right away in the
street and it's around a lot
of our industrial facility.
Lot of our health care
facilities. So we've got to
make sure that we've got
better enforcement and they
they got to show up sort of
toward the afternoon. The
trucks are there every single
day. It's just got to stop.
And we got him. Big fines. So
thank Disagree with that. Any
further discussion?
>> Comm. Tiseo: Any opposition
to the motion that passes
unanimously. We're gonna move
onto t one, which is our 3rd
quarter budget adjustments.
Mrrt recognized to present.
Good afternoon. Commissioners
regard their fiscal services.
As you know, fiscal services
monitors the budget on ongoing
basis throughout the fiscal
year and quarterly. We bring
back any necessary adjustments
to the board for approval and
review. And so this is our 3rd
quarter budget adjustments for
fiscal year 26. Any questions
for staff? I'm hoping to sign
up to the public. Anybody
wishing speak on this item.
Please come forward. You'll
have 5 minutes. Anybody from
the public wishing to speak on
item t one 3rd quarter budget
adjustments. Please come
forward. You have 5 minutes.
MR. Rising move close, public
input so motion seconded close
public input. Is there any
further discussion? Turning
out motion? Public input is
closed, MR. CHAIRMAN move the
resolution that we have motion
second to move resolution. Is
there any further discussion?
Is there any opposition to the
motion that passes unanimously
move on to item t 3
conservation? Charlotte
Renewal resolution and
referendum.
>> Good afternoon.
Commissioners Tina Powel
Park's natural resources
manager few weeks back. I came
and presented an update on
conservation Charlotte as well
as the proposed ballot
language. As for the renewal.
And this is our public hearing
to approve the ballot language
and the resolution that puts
that on the ballot this
NOVEMBER. Any questions for
staff?
>> Comm. Tiseo: An open this
up to the public for public
comment. Anybody from the
public wishing to speak on
this item? You'll have 5
minutes. Please come forward
state. Your name for the
record. Anybody wishing to
speak on item t 3. Please come
forward. You'll have 5 minutes
state your name for the
record, MR. CHAIRMAN us, you
know, when rising moved close,
public input. So remotest
motion in a second to close
public input. Is there any
further discussion? There any
opposition to the motion? That
passes unanimously public
input is closed, MR. CHAIRMAN
move the resolution. Have a
motion seconded the
resolution. Is there any
further discussion? Is there
any opposition to the motion
that passes unanimously?
Gentlemen, we've completed our
morning agenda. We are in
recess recess until 01:00pm
>> Comm. Tiseo: Go
afternn, ladies and
gentleman. Welco back to the
Charlotte Countyoard of
unty commissioners rular
inand use meeting for
esday, 7/28/20. Let the
record show all commsioners
are present. We'veow arrived
at our 01:00pm pubc input.
Any subject, abody wishing
to address the brd during
this portion of the eting
mu state their name fothe
reco remarks on any county
lated subject of limited
to 3 minutes and sha be
dressed to the commission as
a body and n to individual
members will n be any
scussion. And to sak.
Plea come forward state ur
nameor the record.
>> Good afternn, MR.
Airman members of th
Commissi, my ne Philip
Small limit 2, 4, 3,, 8,
Trsure Island BoulevardAll
righ harbor, I'm here
regarding thmatter of
importance to the taayers.
The county receid permit
from Florida Deptment of
vironment Protectionand
U.S.Rmy Corps engineers some
years ago toredge the
enance channel to our
community.Hat chant dredge
oject resulted in le than
one-fifth of an ac of
seagss loss. Despite the
fact thaArmy Corps of
Engineers. Thselves referred
to the seagrasloss s
minusce. They still quired
current county at the
expense ofhe taxpayers
mitigate the seagrass lo by
planng and monitoring se
grass an2 serate spots
Charlotte Harbor f 5 years
after 5 years of monitoring
the coun's contractor
reported on the seagrass
mitigation. The port states
at 2 of the primary
ccess criteria were plicit
achieved and the 3r
criteriaad been met until
the migation areas were
destroyed bymultiple
hurricanes a successive
drift ale attacks. Howeve
dp is w asserting that the
county must begin. Another
attempt to grow seagrass d
the imired waters of the
harbor. The surgeon means th
PirateHarboraxpayers will
have to foot theill. The
partavre waterways, Msbu
advisoryoard. Adopd as
ficial position of per.
That explains in great tail
whthe fdp isrong in it
assessme. That project
failed and provides multiple
ways the pject can be seen
as success. You have hrd
thathe p insist the matte
is close a simple matter
compla. But thdp itself
failed to comply wittone
with its ownregulatio and
ring the permit the wathey
did it. Anthis failure is
now being leveraged against
the coun to claim we st
spenmore money on a from
purpose, specifically t
county proje succeeded in
several waysincluding but
not lited to the ct that
e buffer zones arounthe
Dredge channelroom more th
enougheagrass to meet the
project demands.Ebbie says
that doesn't count but s own
regulations at Florida
Administrave de. 62 Dash
3,, 0, 1, 0, For part 3
It can 3.1 says otherwis as
and I and ny of my neighbors
believe thcounty. Shou
adhereo the position
asserted by e Msbu Advisory
board. And we ge you to
tertain meeting beeen the
adsory board chair. An
there's anourselves to fully
appreciate the accuracy of the
position papeand to direct
staff to coopera better with
the advisory board to save th
county mey by asseing the
gitimate right to coider
thproject complete. Our
posion is in the county'
best entnce and we should be
fully inrmed about it. Thank
you. Thank you. Andishing
eak. Please come forrd
stat Your name for the
record. Yohave 3 minutes.
>> Aftnoon commissioners.
Name Roy Ekeleri live in
Babcock Ranch. I with the
American Legion Postbout
Coran pose for 15. I'm here
today to speak to u all
out 31 for old Farm use.
As Amerin Legion memr. We
ha brand new. We have not
unable to start I'm not money
to get opposed. Buthat
ilding sitting o there
ve been staying therfor 2
yes without being used. We
thought we wld come and
asked if we could ve it.
Either with Alice ojust take
it oveto build out as our
American Legion Po. As state
Senator Albritton a
ough Oliver. If we c have
so money to build. He got as
far as the governor'office.
The gornor shot it down du
to the ct he Making his
budget. So. I ha talked to.
E mmissioner here and he
did good job trying to hp
us. No call the
adminirator's office.
Message is nev return. Call.
The otr day. What I was
eating. Like it staurant. I
got a call real tate stating
that we couldn't ve it, that
they were going tose it or
stors in further
investigation. I fou out
th. The couy is deciding
to tear down, bud a brand
nefirehouse in that ar. I
don't understand why. Because
bcock Ranch is. And I
understand living near theye
going build another who fa
else. Arlotte County. So
at being said, I woullike
to pose itYou all please
look intit and letters. Have
ito build out. We takcare
ofhe. Veterans are we ha
suppord the veterans there
The H.O. Kitson and partners
has. Let e their facilities
for nothin We can't make
money without hang a.
Opposed to do thati have.
Some handouthere for you
all. I had ai'megally blind
low vision its. 4 pages lon
So whei found that out,
for type up for you. So tt
is. What Iould like to
propose to the cmissioners.
>> Thankou, sir. Thank you
for commen. Thank you for
your service. Ank you. My
formation. He's on t
bottomf the. Thank you.
Thank yo sir. And Bill
wish sak. Please come
forward.
>> Good afteoon, MR.
CHAIRMAN members of e board,
my name is John hwend. I'm
the CHAIRMAN Of thPirate
Harbor Werway and must
adviry board. I come to u
with or 30 years of
perience as an experin
envinmental protection
working bo for the
government andor the private
ctor. I'm also a pro
memberf a bunch neighborho
voluntrs who lovand are
mmitted to taking ca of
the environmt. Our nehbors
inust the last 2 years have
planted hundds mangroves
to try to salvage small
isnds damaged in the
hurricane.We also hav
carried ndreds of buckets, 5
ns worth of oyster slls
and our votes outo a spot
working with the Crlotte
rbor. Uatic Preserve to
try to resto an oyst reef.
Are a committed bun of
peop to the environmt.
Intestingly enough. Project,
we also advocated for 7 or8
yearago was the realignmt
of ourInterests Channel
agrass is being damad by
bos going out.
Realigng, cutting it deepe
with minimizthat damage. The
progress was process project
was a mitigaon in and of
itself. Nonethels, we
reire to grow seagrasso
replacwhat was damaged in
the dread.Ntroversy has
arisen regaing the Florida
Departme, the Florida
Department of Enronment
otections for you that the
can disregarthe results of
our seagrass migation
oject. Dp seeks to force
the county topend more money
on anotherroject. Our
adviry board has taken
well-rearched position. I
had sent y once before by
ma copies to get it toyou
agaionhy we need not spend
this money ain, Florida dps
not even abidi by s own
gulations. Wanted toearch
mo must be done. I'mere
toda Apologetically only
because our attempts to hel
the coun in this matter have
been obfcated. It seems like
coty staff are trying
ignores into submiion.
They want use must besed
funds for a dierent project
with fd eps Blesng. We've
tried hard to support the
county a we've asked for
pport from sta and w
don't get y lp ignored.
Some examples we asked to be
involved in e budget process
for mis be use. Got no
swer by t time llowed
, id, Hey,here's where's
that iitatiowears? How how
can we discuss theudt?
Theyaid, oh, you'rtoo
lateu don't get to
participate. Anheexample,
the seagrass pject I
ioned. Compted in 20,
there are chargetour
budg in 2025. 26 for
seagrass mitation. That
project 2 years ago. We ask
for detailednfmation as to
why we're ill being charged.
No answer. Wwere promised we
will be invited t next
agency mting on the status
of the seagrass Proje
Departmenteadershi
purposely excludeds fr the
meinwe had been pris
we wou at and never
thered. Even tell ust s
happeng. It is simy king
toe volved. Thank you.
Thank you. Thankou. Thk
yofor yo comment. Yeah.
Deputy pass those ank yo
ryuch. Thank you.
>> Com TiseoAnd best
shes speak, pleaseome
forward anhave minutes.
Ate. Your name for t
record.
Go afternoon. Coissioner
I'd like to thk the 2
speakersi can image you
not tting a retu call fm
staff.
>> Iginehis county becau
I offereto bthe lobbyist
for free to ChlottCounty
for e year. F free. An
earlier toy we hrd seeg
me up heari speak aft
me. Just wt to make me
thingseal clear he to
everybodtoday.Look at is.
Now APRIL 14th 2ears ago.
Erybody. Just lo at this
otball fieldThey'rgonna
lamentous ale. Now. Ts
isn't fr septic tank ruff.
We're ltural runof Thisis
from the psphate ming
indust. Tt's mosaic on
everyby.
Saic ForMeade. On the
opposite se of thePea
River isoning d Polluting
Shoal Creek.N I'm not gog
to sit uhere anyre in here
en app oanybody comep
here to ve us ala massage.
Don't wt to hear it
anymore. Ion't wanto see
yoguys giving y money
any more501, sees.
>> Who
>>ay they' protecting e
water? Becausare not
precting the wer. We had
ctor RicharWhitman re 2
yearago. And whatid Dr
Richd Whitman ll the
Chlotte Couy Legislativ
legation, ommissioner
Constance anTruex an
sell. Rember, he saithe
Pee River dying. Dyg.
Attorn Tom. Younow, I kind
of ms hello, MisJanet. S
sure madit a lite easier
look at theiocese. Bu
you that personay, plea I
got tell you gu. Y've
been cplicit in leing the
rir die. I don't care wt
e guy's a Taahassee nt
to telyou, chair. En you
geup thereyou ll them
th is ouharbor. Thiss my
homemchildren, myuture
gacies he. And we wa
is harboand this riv, we
wantt re stod. Thank.
Ank you, genemen. Than
you.
>>omm. Tiseo: d wishinto
speak any county lated
matt. Pleaseome forward.
You'll hav3 minutestate.
Yo name for threcord. This
n't landse. This is r
any otherelated tter. But
you can stilspeak. Fternoon
mmissioners.Y name I
chard Lile County
sident. My iue todayis
I'm bu doing mown
investation of a fmer
spector genel and inhe
procesi arranged tmeet
publ works. And I s
afforded30 minutesor that
meing f which e first 5
waited for attorneto
zoom ion that meetg. Once
at attorney t there.That
attoey interrupt no less
an 3 tim. Ting up a
jority omy 30 minute For
whatever reon thattorney
deded it was aropriateo
me. Legacounsel. That leg
counsel en sometng like
th. I vise you to t your
qutions in writing a
submit tse 2. Communit
velopmen Inord to
obtain consistent swer
fromhe count I'not
inrested ia consistent
answer frothe coun. What
I'looking r is the tru
from theounty. As an
investigatorhow you about
doing th. As yousked that
me question om sever
sources.You n compare the
answers.And if ty're
constent, then y probabl
ve the tth when ey're
incoistent. That the
thre yofollow tfind the
uth. Thank yousir. Tha
your comnts. Anyone se
wishinto speakPlease come
forward. Sta your na. For
the cord. You'llave 3
minus on anyounty relate
matter.
Good aernoon. My ne is
Samu runningor the reco.
>> I'm snding he holding a
campaign mair from Vanessa
Oliver. She activel
blting maing ou
mmunity,laiming she
fightinghe newesthreat to
rental rights and taeting
dophilesIt is incribly
nveniento lecture th
public about tificial
chines a threats on
ece of paperBut let'
ing someaw unfiltere
common sen to this dcese,
the deepest Rht to our
children ian adtional
ost. It a total colpse
ofpper a Chel
accounbility insidour
tual physicalnstitutions
right here iCharlott
unty. Thstate of Floda
or brie officially ras 3rd
in t nation r hun
traffickg and ouown local
soil is cssified as aime
geograical transitorridor
ant spot r exploition
betwn Miami and Tampa. Ye.
Whilpoliticia use off
tional hdlines to hu for
boats, our local stems are
aling wi systematic rea
world exploitaon, coverups
Let's looright under is
roof with Coissioner
Cotance wi thousands of
explicit ptos or uncored
on a cnty issued governmen
laptop outsidcounsel
instigated andound a car
licy violati. But wh did
thismmission do?You che
to overre those ndings?
Declare thatolan voiand
sweep entirely unr the
rug. How can gular citize
have fai in the les when
gh ranking oicials g a
pass f explicit marial on
puic propey, you sd a
messagto everyesident th
you hold por, the ls do
not ply to you. N, looat
our school boa or the ates
invoed our childn. We ha
seen rest of educatorin this
coty for sexuamiscondu
and child ase. I amot
standi here accusein
schooloard memr on tree
intentiolly otectinghem.
But has a n-negotiable
statuty responsibity to
safeguard our student Wher
was the ovsight? What
systemat bettingaws allow
ese individus near our
kids?
>>eing a blic offial
isn't out ribb cutting
syolic huntinresolutions
are nding out flas mellors
out a Ifyou ho the seat,
you hold therespsibility
are tired othe double
stdards anbureaucracy and
eir shrugs. Expect r
leads to a as ship for
the blic, not shift for
each other. Do your joto
protecthe most andhas sent
e most angst our childn
and GOD lp us dthat. Go
bless you.
>> Comm.Iseo: Thank ur
commen or anyby else
wiing to speakPlease ce
forward.Tate your na. For
the cord. Yoll have 3
nutes.
Ood afternoo Good
afteoon.
>> I'm goi to reado you an
mail that wasent froGary
BangJust name fothe reco
man. I me for e record
ning. Susie ank you.
E-mail w in OCTOBER,th
2025. Laura RossiThen it
was no subjt. I need
update tthis is in rard to
war said I sorry. Ye. So
we'rgoing to havthat wil
ss your me from it.
>>omm. Tis: We can tak
that underonsideraon. We
oped that landse item.
This is r public inp. Any
coun relatematter.
We're wee not supposeto
consid any comnts on land
use at this age of t part
of t meeting. I kn that I
usthat. You casay you n
say whatou want if yont
to rept it aga, you can
me back landse. I dot I
n't have I'moing to ad
somethg else. OkayThat's
fi. Okay. So they nt to
makeure you undetood,
righ Okay. Wre going to
resume your me when u
start taing. Okay.
>>ary Bain sayto need
update tt I so it nes to
reflt the worscase
condion, which ian
excavaon and then ck
feelinit with lch and
compt. So thtruck count
hachanged. Howeve we are
on going 13eet deepnow re
eling the wrt guess uld
be theworst-ce scenario.
The otr case iwe leave it
as a lake. D do not bac
feel But w backfield t
berms arnd e perimer.
The si more likelyTt
this is ing toe what
happens. Do you nd a qb
yards?Both scerios, Gary
Bank.
>> Com Tiseo: Thanyou for
yo and anydy else wishg
to speakPlease ce forward.
State your ne. For t
record. U'll have 3 nutes.
MR. Chaman and
Coissioners. Gd afternn.
Myame is Dght Dean. I ve
in Praie Creekark and some
0 residentiapropty
ownersn our Community.
Praie Creek Parks less
th 2 and aha miles from a
oposed mine te knowns
water si. Ortly you'lle
presenteimrtant deiled
infoation regaing the
applicatiofor wateside,
whicwe trust youcarefull
amined. Myoint is
suggest brder context
considerhis applation. The
residents che this mmunity
toinvestur resources to
build our homes.Amilies d
enjoy ling on proper with
a diinctive ruleCharacte
Whe we welce a diverse
variety ofctivities th fit
natully with this
defition, itould never
include sandining. As you
can infer fr the sizand
the lume of the blic
pressionhat willather
heretoday.T simply doenot
fit. DayWe e many rea
anges tang place as
Florida's population gws
since says thajust under
2 million people med to
Flida betwn 2020 25.
Histor growth. Secd only
toexas, Chlotte populaon
grew 2 in the me period.
Whilthese da alys lag
bend the re,the realy,
Charloe Countyesidents
ready se impact. Som
very good r ourconomy.
Mo real estate cents, more
shoprs, moreungry patron
inestauran et some
ressing are from year
infrtructure. Mo cars in
trafc. More tients
viting heah re
provids, great demandsor
puic servis. And whe you
won'see a big chge when
yodrive homtonight, thi
quie sule and irreversle
trend builng stress on
exisng infraructures su
as our rds and
trsportation gd. You
tter th we unrstand t
difficulecisionsecessary
wh this populatiogrowth
exceedexisng capacitieof
our lal infraructure. You
ow how me, how more
affic inarticular the
large trks hauli large,
heavy loads conceiv by
th applicaon. Infles and
exgerates are esent
pattn growth a will
reque even more equent
updates anupgres of
crital ansportation
corrors likeermont and
Duan RoadsThis is just
common sen. These e e
critical porities 're
focuseon as ou consider
this water side applicaon.
We areere to sport you as
you seek thicrital balan
and ask u avoid t
intrusivand isruptiv
ture. Thiapplication
wishes to imse upon ou
community all of deal
wi many otr remarkable
changes driven bour rece
and antipated polation
grth. Thanyou, sir. Thk
you comment.
Comm. TiseoAnd wishg to
speaon any countsubject.
Ease comforward. Sta.
Your namfor the cord.
You' have 3 minus. Again.
If it's a la e commen we
have aand use nextt
02:00pm.
I'm Melanieor paired
trage th. A bunc So I
oke to m Khan, sincee
was the e that aually
call me back, whh I
apprecte. Thanyou. We're
stl haven'gotten anhere.
So he did gi me advi on to
te you guys wh we're
ending. You guys algot
our 9 's this morningr
we'll geth today or 90's
for e last 4ears. Anso
you gu can seehe
differce in what e spend.
're fromaired outrea
society,he 501 c
nonprofi Tt, you know,
we've been here. Wee
struggli keep our
facity open.E're paying
some of the 00 a mon in
re. We're aski for you
sistanceYou know, weere
able tpull theurplus list
of operties that arlotte
Coun uses th are empty o
not being ed beingsed for
stage. It immense. So
n't I'm havi a very rd
time uerstanding w no one
caeven looat it.An you
knowsit downnd talk to I
have lt at lea 20 mesges
from m Flores to ge me a
ca. I'd ner heard from
him. I've spoken to Melissa
and I thinare your
sistance100 timeand they
ll me, o call me, bui've
neveheard fr you again,
cotant, MR. Cotance wa
e one th did give mea
call. Ani loed into me
of the thingthat, yoknow,
we dcussed ke talkg to
farmeeing wean move our
birdomewherelse. The
omise we havalmost 0
birds. Wwould ha topace
themut. We only ve 220
lunteers. Hodo we ke
them Howo we keep th
clean? H do you ow they
ha to be in one locaon.
're paying 3you know,
ving them alover thelace
doesn'work. We've never
asked the coty for athing
you guys ha to undetand.
We'vbeen here 17ears. 17
years.E've tak care of th
birds ofhis county at for
yoguys to lieve that tre
isn't need, its crazy.
Cay diseasthat we keep
controlledor he county. W
just took 21 birdsrom one
resident iCharlottCounty 7
ys ago. Is is wh we.
And you ys don't knothat
the's palm becse e've
beenble to mntain fo17
years thout any helpWe
can't that anore. We're
t askingu guys to gi us
money.Sking tofor us for
you guyselp us with e
buildingnd let upay mean
you'llent. We're lp us p
our rentMaybe t all of it.
But discussn of some so
to how wme forwar We
ha an,000 square-ot
facili and we n barely
ve inside oft. Ie
invited l of you to me
visit.Ome lookt what we
do. This isn just like, y
know, ti et shop. We a 5,
a one 3. No one ge paid to
be there. Are volteer
based ly you know, wn I
spoke to t fire chf, he
tolde if we stard to u a
nice bd's, we coulmove
into smaller cility tt
doesn't lp the probl.
There arstill atleast
120,0 birds ving in home
inside of arlotte unty.
Whether yobelieve at or
not,here are we' done this
to We've looketalked
abt an area inlinics a
over Chaotte Couy. Peop
don'House onbd. I
persally hav50 birds at
home in Lee unty. Ople
don'House on They house
lot more than tha And
Chlotte Coty does not ve
a breedg policy for yone.
>> Tnk Thankour comments
wishing topeak. Plse co
forward.Eah. Youave 3
minus. State. Yo name fo
e recordAgai If it's on
land u. First
>> Tha you foraving me
re. Name forhe recor My
name iWalter Bellseasor
is it me win live in s it
all soutrn Illinois,f you
knowhere thasaid? Ive
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in 196 Inhe nba want all
ite scho for the Murchs,
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on ml. D b, 52. And myMy
alificationsf Illino
State trper full. And tor
pushednvest seeant known
as the deputu.S. Maral. I
work aa court serity
offirs. Few people herof
the feral courofficer. If
you ow nothi them board
mean write aook. Deat
anyway. Baup pointWeave
a TampBay Rayso mean. In
thspring te burning.
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board meer. Was a hi
scol board memr 7 year
was present for. Ani
believe safety. And know
you' worried out money,
maybe build erpass. You
don't want g a life more
impoant. You need t nothe
ba be a board d the our
perintendentwhen youo.
Chk out grt. Lord Ranso
They pai person.A lot
gran. If you invest iue of
the re presidentNo, I'
t. The psident. Don't you
wish you wer Anyway, In
20. We have 12roopers t.
My semi ivers. Bronx12a
trooper'die. Was home. N
Pinckneylle. He'25 years
d. E 3 yearon thjob. He
haa kid fotrial for an
won 2. Thiserson died tt
kill mudoom. Ove And
he's a guyThey really ve
me. Lo 2 chilen for wif
Anay, I waa deputy u.S
marshal, aederal crthouse
pling on it.
Know right d how it
it's 3 nute wityour
present. I underand gym
yet.'s 3 ministe that
ank, you kno servicend
thank u. Well, whai'm
sayings we neeto
protecon. Thank you, sir.
Normal going stall?
Ceainly nedo mn so we
are we uer ovpass bil I
got Weot youpoints. Are
public safetover got a ni
to meet u. Oh, Tnk you,
si Thank you f your
coents. Anybodwishing
speak, pase come forrd.
State ur name.Or the
rerd. You'll he 3 minus.
Yes,hank you, si
>>ello, myame Charles
Goodman. I le in the#
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Gorda area a I'm herto
speak behalf of t Parrot
outrea society years ago.
My wife and walked io the
parrotutreach st out of
riosity. My fe had. Once
had pair forlmost years
fomy babuntil hiassing
so nationally.E were
cuous abouwhat this ple
real was were waly greeted
byolunteer sta member wh
gives it tthe cilitiesnd
give ua short variant
Haian regaing the
dierent types of birds
currently used the over
the xt 3 ars. We ve
adopted 3 pa from the
outrea society, ea one and
older birdWhat somow lost
thr previousomes. Yoneed
somee to care for them
like mosdomestic pet
Paris calive a le span.
Ve similar to our Birds
are w the 3rd mo popular
t can nojust Floridabut
in Ameca. Behind right
behind dogand catsMany of
e Burj at thoutreach
ciety arsimp there
becausthey've outved thei
ners abity to care for
them. T parent I wajust it
noonly nd suitae hes
in aretakeror the birds
but providinvaable
guidce. Th makeadoption
st likely toucceed. Ey
don't st hand the rds out
tonyone th walks. The
volueers areways
avaible for nsultation o
point, has ncerns regaing
the heth nutrional
behaor of your part. He
doest matter if was
adopd, theirrders was
rchased as apetlsewhere.
Thexpertisof the
vonteers irreplaceab.
All the birds a disease
sted upon arrivain any
affected, bis will reive
medical treaents. Noere
else ithe area canne. Go
to g the adve and servic
thatre now ailable at th
Paot outreach.Hey prove
ooming svices such anail
trend, trd as welas
diseastesting and dna te
that wou normal incur a
ry expenve vet bill r
just theominal dation at
e treach. Thislso ives
owne a chancto speak to
morexperiencBird oers
regardg anhealth conces
they mayave withtheir bis
if nded. The outach has
st of qualifiedxotic
anim veterinians in the
West Coast. Sadly, t nearest
es are eithenow or nth
or an ur south of
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Gord the servic and
assiance proded by the
outreach is importa asset
tour communitynd our
residents.Thdoors are open
to t public in thisffers
manypeoplin e community,
the abilitto intert with
pants in a ay that'not
availae elsewhere the
area. Childr's faceslight
when a bird sws a special
interest ithe visiti
child, their smes of crisis
when a rd introced
themsees by speaki hello,
I'quite uhs or he girl.
Suchteractions c shape a
ild's peonnel. You bome
more on to havg better
derstanding of anils. This
n then eent of the
relationshipith othe
people. Parentsre incredly
intellent bird They're
capable of ctical inking
aroften are ab to vocaze
eir feelgs ju on one
rent meeting othe
volunteers, a longti
residentair interjecd into
the conversaon regarng the
ca of burgs. Quoteu
think yore so smart d then
leout a lah. Ye they ca
eak, buthey need us
speak fothem here so th
they cahave a safe d
secure fure in our
counity. Rpectfully ask
you supporparadigm
ciety, tir valuable set
to ourommunityThank you,
sir. And ishes spk. Please
me forward ste your me.
For threcord. You' have 3
mites.
>> Good afrnoon. Tnk you
fohaving of Chles Mccle
speakingn behalf of ir
outreachociety. You' heard
a t about ganization's
been arounfor a long te.
I've bn since boarmember
fopast 3 yrs. Things
n tell y about the prot
treach ithe way helput
domest violenchome
people ty have to gi the
Ram man. Thas at that
ppens. We ta him no
arge. We wi charge ybody
abouparticularlyedical
carexpenses and e cuts
dot. Sohat wedo is a lo
It's 100% volteer as a 5, 1,
, which r best to ke
the burp public pee river
beuse we te care and
thermay come into wal. No
questis asked. We'll ke
care Ur's long as u need
Ifou need know weined
him r. Buwhat stu is as
Mis every moh gets hder
and haer because othe
costs. L's this unty.
It'snbelievable. Did a
two-ar trying tofind us
anher facity. We've tried
evywhere wget polled b
some of th ental proper.
It's nothe sort thing we
nt in mallIt's not the
rt thing we nt our ltle
part othe world he. A
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orda. But 're he.
We haven gone aw, but take
care of everne. The county
has looked dtressed
propty. You' paying a lo
of money ttake carof it
and op being use We have a
legitimate 10 Kohl's. Thas
all volueer. We ke care of
everyone. We also traing
progragetting t to the
scols, educating ople on
thbirds, hp take care
them., more tn you can bu
it o becausehat's ad is
yohave a lot oseniordown
herehat takehese birds f
their coanions. Thatthey
mes with a ps on the
buout leav. The birdie
unload himThe famies don't
lp them out.T's a huge
cost. It's auge upti in.
We'rglad do it. But every
ar does get rder and
rder to this. So. Help
th the renhelp witsome
landrchase, lp with any
vaca buildings tt have n
calls orse right now ihuge
help us cause, you ow,
everevery year is going
every moh, it's going.
It's getng hardeand
harderYou thisalls. An
again,e do prode a good
rvice to e countyand, yo
ow, educion. We're phing
mored more evermonth an
can getrom the peop to
tell tm. We will of t day
thatomes whe we're not
business anyre. But man
spiritnever let th happ
because souch say,hey,my
Pe for my ds. Bo ars on
thbreed, t months to ce
on the pulation.Andhen
all of sudden at pet
don't have a home. Soyou
know, do pride thathat
service and ain. Its s pre
sa predateyou know,ith
e torch has en passeus
now weake care of rit
now. Sa lot f good pple
built ganization tt's been
ound for long time.Th
ngest 5,ne c threes the
coun. Thank yovery much
r yo Thank yo sir. Be
wishes sak. Please ce
forward ate. Youname. For
e record. Yoll have
nutes. Good aernoon
coissioner My name is
Pay Castro.
I am not afliated aall
with t Parrot outrch
Societ But feelompelledo
come up d speak to y out
it seval yearsgo, a friend
of mine's part passed awa
I was noaware ofe
organizaon. I we there. I
de a donatioand I wod
encouragyou too to seehe
facili that th have. I
ntinue to support em.
They'ramazing ganization.
And I wod request th you
do sething to helth
wonderfuorganizationr
communit Thank Tnk you.
Ybody el wishing to eak,
plea come foard to left
minutes. Ood afteoon. My
na is Richard v Acker.
>>nd I've en involved th
the Ms Street d drainage
Gulf Cove. Foabout 18 yea,
either othe boaror a
reside recently. 2 yes
ago, theommitteerought up.
King outThere's a lile
small dium wheyou come in
on off sympts. 6 on dge
lot takinghat mian out
wining and makg an ext
lane in here. Mentia ithe
of tee layout thas alread
the intsection. They'
been turnedown at ery
meetin This past mting.
They werturned down ain
for it. But ey said theyl
do a 1.6illion dlar
beautication. Pin curbe
rinking e lane. But we
nt wide beuse of amoun
of traffichat's in there.
Now th the park's tered
the ilding tt's going on
We're cked up all e way
throh that iand, waiting
for que onhat ligh The ad
nickelntersection r the
NortSide is Atwater.
Matter of ct, Julys
biggerwider. Then at war
is so the would ill be
ilgal median and evething.
I ow you a have heard
from. Public wks becaus
ey neverell you whathe
msp yoreally wt. Leing
town f a couple therwill
be oer people he in your
xt couplmeani got th
tes wrong. A I told
dates th they come ud
speak. Sit'll be comg to
talko you abt it, too. Bu
the commtee, residen all
wanthat medi widened. So
trafc can fl. Ank you.
U all have. Od afteron.
Thank y, sir. Anybo else
wishg to spe? Oany
countyelated sject. Please
ate yourame. For the
record. Yohave 3 mutes.
>> I havthe handts.
There's a pies.
ColoneMarion Tipto United
Stes Air Fce retired Pry
Crk, West, speing toda
garding e unauthoriz
extensio the tcp4. 0, 4,
Adoption hring deaine as
established law expire
ly th 202680 days afte
transmitta As of this
moing, JULY 28 2026. W
have receid no comnication
feedbacfrom you or yo
staff onur letter. Tt's
anothecopy of it.Rarding
statutory exration a
automatiwithdrawalf
proposedomp plan Amement
tcp.24 0, 4,harlotteCounty
Amendment.5 Dash ' r the
od revisns which I al sent
throh yo assistant a
Charlotte unty, Flida dot
v on Sunday cause itid
in 2 wks and we hanot
heard word bacfrom you.
Th after monthof vario
discussis with dividual
aff and boarmembers
well. At thApril 28th 202
Board ofCommissiers meeting
during commiioner's
coents. Thfallen commes,
alquotes from commissners
and n be vefied on your
video re made regaing
extensns. Do weave a
spresheet of wheand why
exnsions he been grant
in the pt? No onknew are
sponding. How manyoposals
ha been grted xtension
How longith those exnsions
do we ev know ich ones
me back aftehow longWe
ould revi extensions r
approvalnot staf maybe. We
shouldave a woshop about
putting exteions whe We
dot see thesthings for
months and fget whatt was
abou ey asked thr
attorneyus to attoey his
opion on extenons and
stf approval oboard of
mmissions. His response
We will lo in it. That wa
3 nths agoWe haven't
heard. We pected some pe
ofesponse ng befortoday
by l, the adtion hearing
had to be ld no lar than
Dember. Xcuse meJuly 9th
202600 days aftetrance
mile returfrom state.
Remier, the plicant firs
applied f Kcp24, 4, on
Seember. Th 2024, hich is
proximity tooint for 2 ars
to havtheisewer anwar
plans apoved, whh is why
ey ask for exnsion MARCH
th 2026. Misr De Lisi o
behalf of e applict. Send
anmail to stafter hours
requesng an additial 180
da extensi out to
Feuary. 28. Sta sent to
o see wiin a very sht
time. Al after hrs to
reco a nedate with sll
111 da before the iginal
deline. As elected ofcials
fromour taxpayg
constituts, don't weeserve
a sponse tour inquy? Not
justrickets. Tha u for
yourime. We ok forward t
your respoe. Thank you.
>> Comm. Tis: best whes
speak.Lease come fward.
You' have 3 nutes on any
county reled matte Okay.
Seng no on right,
gelemen, do yowant to try
attempt commts are le to
go io recess unt 2. With
the pleasu of theoard
withok? Soe want to ta a
ab comments wl just stop
erever we stoppedstart to
my lt and ommissioner
it. You' recognid for calm
We, actual, we have r.
Floresthank Just he a
quick e. It's tually
piybacking f. We haset
the puic hearing cing up
for on Sepmber 8thegarding
righaway and discussion
enforcemenjust to e board
kns, you know,t's not ly
right ay that we'rwe're
maki sure weake a look a
but it's ao there'other
instce, county orcels
were folks andtaging o
rking along. We're tryin
to take a look at a that
wherthere might some
non-mpliancessues and se
how we gabout enrcing
whetr it's pting signs
ortrespaing. So re to
comen that. T that's it.
Thank yo MISTER Air, MR.
Vid, any comnts? Ay,
Commisoner, do it.Ou're
recoized foromment, r.
Just cck your commt on a
whe bunch things with The
clothing, thbirds th will
justome in. And you so
can all ve a chance I'm th
st Speak. Mary Andre
talked abo the expiraon
date. Sort recall ming
befo this ard gum to g
chance tlook into rify the
ta see if Kcks cent was
doner
>> Comm.Eutsch: at the
stus is on the
Commissner. We do ia
time, Dad Countyttorney.
Do administtive
exteions, whh is a commo
practice aund stat Okay
So theand th's under an
extension rit now. E
project at she's don
referenc at the at urrent
rerences. The th project
s extended. Rsuant tthe
e-mailhat you talk about.
Okay, itas tended due
time. And yoknow, thdate
thatt's extended.
>> Comm.Eutsch: don't have
the shoes. Dnot havehe
das are, b maybe that
because ey have them. Yo
n't respd. No, I'morry.
Maybcould gehat
informion if whave it and
sort shar So the ladyould
be ableo see th we will
llow les thatere
establhed and that just asa
procedure, wl, sometes
will eend some of ose
ems if wcould get th
4th, it uld be helpf. I
belie community velopmen
s that iormation wil
allow all lked abo it. Ok,
ank you. Thether thi
that oncerns and you kno
prior the souls and
responding to emails. Wt are
you doing re? 30 retir the
emai and pho calls and a
that stu I'm concerne jt
they said lot ofools. A
rell. That0 a 300 or
whatever. Buit was aawful
lot of cas.
>> Com Deutsch: We to the
adnistrati office andnd
no onealled th back. Maybe
you could eck on tt
internallyCause. Ihink
mostf us. Try toeturn all
one calls ve some vel of
mmunication th the
citize, whatev whever
possib. So youay nt to
Hect, if you cou touch
ba with th person's wh
ppened ell, tho phone
cas turn that at.
Does ju doesn't see
consistentor me.
>> Forhe birds.
>>omm. Deuch: I had a
bunch of pow to set e time
puppies onll kindsof stuff
flying arounaffordab
housing ey grew up aa
youngste And I tnk most of
us a pet lovs. Now I have 3
iny budget, question
ying or not,and the sue
with t parentsi n't
ink and maybthe
adminirator coent on tt.
I don'think we hava way.
That we uld pride fundg
to a 50 c 3.Ot that the
need. Isn't ere? We d this
reest come at e end ofhe
cultal centebefore it
esn't strikeby hurrines.
I'm t sure thate have a
thodology orway. At we
can ovide fundin2
ornizationr group like
that. You MAY want tcomment
on tt one, t, but I don'
think thers we don have a
router oplanned to bable
provide taxyer dolls to
someing like Nothat it
wodn't be.Heful and t
that the's not a nee but I
dot think ere's a way
can do tt. Its the time
that I'm notaware o
>> Tom, d the coty
attorn that I thin
commission, the wato do
thatould be to a eu for
thboard toct and then
included in the budget
process. We n look a
ything y wish wtever,
whever, whever is legay
allowed. Don't kw what
wh this organition's
stus isr, you know,ut we
do gnt fundi. We do
dierent types, you kn,
the cnty does. Sohat we d
at packa to the Unit
Way, whi isbeen tablished
different. 16 yearsgo.
We setthat up.
>> Comm. Deuch: Thers
differentypes of procts
that t county nds for
vaous. County svices. W
e vendorand all kindof
thingsSo there ways to do
it just in tdirect staffo
vestigat. Have to go
through thudget. Yeah,
picked cple of youngen to
everne else a chanceo
comment cause I've got some
more commenton some the
othethings that me to 2.
Comm. Dtsch: Want tlet
someonelse goi.
>> Well,ou have e floor
focomments do u do wit
ur ah, I mean, u've bee
cognizedor comment.,
yeah, gohead andgo dow
ur st and will cment
after u what we kn. I
don't nt to co erything
want to ve everyone se
enougho do so.Torm. Find
t. Okay.O your commes
for no Okay. Commiioner
Trueyou havea comment
I'm jusgonna bring you
annu conferee of fther
Nacoas succeful
conferce. I was nothere
for e generasession on
Monday. I fl back eay to
get ck. But meetgs went
ve, very well. Do have
new secondites. Whaver it
is, ichever we'rgonna ce
presidt vice psident
airs anyway.Nd that But
it's our and I I dot have a
ole lot el to report. St
publicafety meings wit
ry well a good
partipation om fema whil
we werehere. And sohat
that s good. E deputy
director thai got toeet
with wn I was in Dwas also
ere. So 's good to e see
her d there do a
esentation. E acting
administtor who s been I
tive mintry before y get
30 yrs of exrience, was
the in hoping see thnew
appoine confird by he
Senatei haven't hed how
that going athis point.
But they werhoping thave
it de this week. We also
l should be tching tt
the the rson thas in
char now the pern is
comingn and a revious
adnistrator, fa, we'rell
in ourdisaster rovery
meetg and th meeting wen
very, verywell gten some
ry good deta. It sous
likehere on boarto make
so good mifications a
not just g the I think
there's imovementsn at
area anit's good toee
thingsoving in positive
direction. Wall kn that we
ed to sereform and fema
but we neefema iplace
wherwe are concned abou
they goo a grant press
proces what looks likeBut
ey have al been inform
that we uld likeo see it
passed the states order
toet to thlocal
commities is to op getti
held up bween theederal
gornment stateovernmen
d then t state decid,
well, I'gonna gi hears to
there directow. So is
beer. But overl, I thi
we're gog to see som
improvemen ju keep pying
for 's a long watoo and
that'sives. Thank you,ir.
Commisoner, doant to
coent on commiioner
direor's comnts are
coinued. I juslike to
brg one upbecause I ink
the geleman looked but Iad
some informatn be levant
toule so gtlemen suggesd
a.
>>etting a a wk over fm
the fairounds and whe the
parkg lot isver and spos
park.
Comm. Deuts: particarly
whenhe stone so cribs
we here a mber years a
when I fst came the
bod, we acally looked to
that. D the problewith
gettg theim number onwas
then I wou ha to guess
at it is nowBut thcost
thenas wellver a millio
dollars.Nd that was out 15
yes ago. Si had to gue
what it uld be. T the
otheproblem with it an
Putin, the overpassyou woul
ve to me. All fedel
guidelin ming it
acssible to anyone,
handicappedisablednd to do
thatyou need oneoot for
evy inch. Passov would
ha to be hh enough that
and I don't ally rember to
th day, theheht of a
vecle, butt was somewhe
around 1to 20 fe. To get
make se the trks that go
on on that roadw would b
le to geunder it. Ll, to
do that,ou havto remember
for every in you neea
ot. And the problewas just
lookg at we didn have
enou room to be le to
builit and stillet people
paed, but probably wld
have goneack 102 yardto be
ableto gethe height wend
to cro over pss the price
But did loonto it one
time. You know,obvioly when
wead the sne crabs and
other thin are goi on, it
waa bo, even sy of that.
But I waed to shari thin
Chris, pbably ov everyone
se that.
>> y want to finh a list
common n good. It'soing
to bmy la call. Wouldou
like tfinish your list? The
coents, ok, MR. Flores
you're recnized. Thank yo
all be qui. Commissione
tracks know u're busy of
naked, buthank youor
pickinup the Digit County
Suey Awardfor ommissioner
Constance, y bring iup
challengg, push to take
vantage of thnology.
So, you know, kudos Ben
Bailey and h becausehey've
goen that the ndful of
yearin a rowSo we'll wll
keep pssing foard. Thank
you, chr. Yeah, thathat
prestation igoing to ben
the Septber meeting.Irst,
beesn Septemr.
>> MR. An says s. Real
quic apprecie the people
coming in om the pents. It
d and ife discussed on
the phe call, t maybe one
thought is tsee abou
rtneringp with oer
ssibly f-profit or
not-for-prof groups onto
landre some of t other
on around en mention tt
before., yoknow, Shaker
mn. But I yoknow, I
think thers an opptunity
nojust talkingabouyour
situion, but alsthe
gentlen talkinabout the
rehouse Babck. You know
king surthat we're fly
ilizing county facities.
So think tt's maybe
mething thate have t
nversatis about. At's
it. Ank Shoulalready.
Comm. Derty: Thank u,
MR. Chrman. Ye, I was
gog to bring uMr. Ekel
from thaclock ranch the
fireuse 31. Yes, I'the
commisoner. He been in
communicatn with a I've
beenorking with ores on
th as wel I wouljust ask
ctor if you uld take
brief alboard member a new
onon ones to the status
ofhat buildingnd what e
plans arso that we a know
and thenprobab sent an
mail, so kind of written
Mrna cse to Ali.Onathan
kns what t real plans e
for the unty. I preciate
at. He aed that we ok
into I the reason r my
>> for mcomments, I d
speak to sta when that v
post reque came inmy
undersnding is we ren't
readto surpl at
proper. That's right.O,
you kn, I gueswe can
foalize a lett and
corrpond withe gentleman
It's just wre not rdy to
do tt. We have dermined
it ready for rplus. Yeah,
you're recnized, Tnk you,
MrBut yeah, I ink thatut
that'sxactly the dlogue, I
ink MR. Flor, these ey
have wh each one ous
invidually.
So he gets e sense,
you knowwhere he's hding
withake suree's got
coensus from t oard
contue down that ph.
>> Com Tiseo: d in regards
to the Part outrea
program, did spe to staff
out. Ou kw, what the
county couldo, ou
facilitiesi don't ink we
havecilitiescoucive
bett readily avaable to
lee out. To nonprofit o
for-profitor any
organition. I ink. We
don'have thakind of spac
availae. So I ess what the
speaker sa is she'
entifiedProperes that
have thahave facities th
can house bis. I'm I
unaware at at this int. So
have to get th staffnd
maybe Hector n. We'llust
go oveone more timat our
ne staff mting to
derstandhat th invento
is that at has a building
that's thousds of sqre
feet. Ferber, u know tt we
can e for birds. Don't
kn if one
>> Cm. Doherty: y just
reted commt it's pass.
Think itight be se secto
look atn workshop anda
in theelativelnear future.
Look at alofur spacethat
are ey can right no I have
nolue whate've got fo
ace. Justo confirm wh
the chaian's lking abt.
And soe we undstand that I
dot I don't kn what we
ve, whate don't hifor
primily that'sn cupied
anthat we're hding on
for futu needs leasthat we
beeve it.
>> Syeah, cae yet becaus
it to the tent if do have
y spe d staff idenfied
as apoteial future nd,
we're t going give that
up a then trto get it ba
because get I n't know wha
it is yet.E'll havto.
We'll ve to take aook at
that ientory. I'm st
unawarof it atthis me.
There s a gentman spoke
out the Pira arbor Msbu
and that thenot bein
volved itheir budget
process. Tt doesn'sound
righto me. A be used
typically apoved the work
plano go over thbudget.
So. You knowSo I just
ked staff to addhat to m
thoscommentsr neck sff
meetin I just likeo
understa what th gentleman
was talking out. I d't I
don'derstandhat.
>> Cm. Constanceyour
consous as pice. They to
interrupt servant.F that's
tually the t of my lt.
And neglected a ttle bit
ncerned out what ey
talkedbout. Yoknow, they
hathe seagrassmitation
planid everythinthey wer
pposed tdo to get prty
close to mpletion. Th the
stor watch wed everythin
out and th it's onhem to
replant everhing.
>> Cm. TiseoWhat staff I
spoke to sff a sta meeting
out that. If remembe
ght, sta had said th
tried plting it didn't te
and theyound that th were
lookg for anlternate
ogram. I thi they ried
twicand it didn't ta. So I
unrstood tt part of wh
he was talkinabout. So th
came up th an alrnate
progm to satisfyat
mitigaon. I believ
something th effect.
Ssus. Les is coming up.
But I rememb having at
convertion with th
seagrass. Itust they goi
to spendmore money plan an
unsuccessfuled of serass
and didn't makeense. I
beeve it w on those nes.
Plse correct mon that
MISS Lewis.
>>ood afteoon. For theee
Lewis,eputy Coty
adminirator commisoner.
That correcthem looking
for John becse he shld be
comingut yes, th is
actuly an agreemt with
mu be on th on this tha
be adcating wh the
agen for relief om. What
weonsider be
overrdened. Simo
potentiay that not following
eir own There was a meeti
scheduleth the p belve
last Mday this Mond it was
caeled dueo weather. B
I'll letohn speaa little
t further.
>> Thankou, commsioner,
fothe record, hn. Unle
public wks director.O to
Emils Point,e do concur
with a lot osentimt from
thfks there. Wee share
the frusation. What?
>>he at the enof the day
wegot toddge permit. E
grants pmit had rtain
requements that have to
et to inude some eagrass
migation. E seagrass
mitigation dn't go awell.
But we'reringing oth folks
anto include Brann people
our teaand others t
basically like can is be
can is count as e
mitigati over here? Because
the area thathey're at
ey're isolatg didn't
mily's pnt didn't dowell.
We agree wi a lot of wh
they're ying ande're doing
evything wcan. So when y
heard abt the chges,
thers ongoinworkhat
we're still ing with that
and work. Ani think met
with tm this wk. I don't
know wh the utcome was.
Were slad to meelast
Mond and then weould mee
th them thgentleman that
spoke at he second the. He
giveus a list of estions
th he wantus answers a
we're gog to go throh
tensive st. Agai we kind
concur th a lot of e
sentimenthat thehave.
Yeah, and I ink the ggest
thinwas he said ey weren
involvedn the budgetrocess
fotheir own msbu. Don't
knowow th could be. I
dot eitherbut through it
and make se they wl be
hone, transparenas we ca
. MR. Kh yes. Thank u,
sir.O, you kw, I guess t
problem if thenvironme
>> Comm.Onstance: isot
appropate for agrass
beuse the eastall is
long seagrs. And that'
exactly whe this mt.
Replanti. They're rely
throwi good moy after bad.
It's just t going work.
Soon't penaze them. So m
glad to ar staff is on their
side and agrs. And Ion't
thinany of us digree with
that. Let'keep thimoving
foard. And cane pleaseet
an upde in about aonth and
ves you ow, at MAY b
under admistrationomet or
something, b we justot to
stayon top of th. And I
wa them tonow they there
being ard and at 're
followg.
>> Anoer anoth challenge
we've had anwe've det with
th with a lot differe
things. St at a highvel
here wget technicaexpert
in thcommunity and the are
techcal expes like peopl
This is at they've do and
theyant to providenput and
nt to bes part of th
gotiatio. But we can
really l that ppen. So
're tryi to let theme
part of. But 're so the
inealing with e agency
ey're li where the
applicant th have toalk
with u So that's o of th
challengeshey wererying to
rike a balan and wor
rough.
>> It was al commentn the
popethe project d quot
unquote reement that
requiredith the ate to
grt an xtension. I d a
publicdiscussi here from
th deiah scifically asng
the coty attory. Ife're
violing any kd of stute
and at I remembe right,
MrDavid, u can correcme.
My undstandi is 's not
dened onhat agreement
in at rticular stion on
anting agreent. Some
countieshroughouthe state
have a formal ocess.Here
comeback to the bod? Me
don't.Nd thegencies except
e extensions from stto
theistaff. That s my
undetanding.That correct.
That's a goodummary. Ank
you. Sas far adog
sothg illegal on the
extension. Wod you sagree
with that? Causwe're bein
accused ofng gs
illey on extensis on
vid County attorney.E
the coes in compliance
withtatute. I understanif
peop disree with that t
of timesouut couple
wyers in the room ge
dierent wers. But as far
as t county's awer,s
that word companceYeah. I
think the stents were we
ki of dropped the lln
llowing on that. T like
I said, it was discsed
publly. Asked that sam
questionAnd then actually
threw out tohe boa
meers. Do we wantohang
our poli and make so it
esome to the boa f
approv for extsions w
wanted iat thapoint ere.
There were 3 had nSoe
kept iast
mistrative thing othe
exnsions. Just to leyou
l know tt you ne
commissi program ikickg
off. I'll btaki the
le thitime arounon that.
're seing updas were
gettint e-mails th know
of anyothercommsiers for
thxt time around. W
going this on rotatio
I know did.He first one
commission direcd e last
d it'sack to magain. B
do needn answer w. I
just thrinit out there.
Someing to tnk aboutSo
get readfor at. At's
minground commsionern
th. Misterhaman, I thi
il down where yound
were gngo bounce back d
forth because nobo ee
ally hava big intestn
runninprogm. So okayif
th'she way erybodstl
feels d at's wt welan
to t nt 10 yearswe're
likely tget OKthis was
brout a the la year
abt e leworking progra
and bringingeoe ba to
rk. Went rough an aud
with the crknd heou he
madeomrecommdations to
our admistration telewoing
licy. And speakinrently
aty st sta meeting wit
MrFlores, he'imemente
thosrecommdations an
erybody's cko work.
Cepthose w do n. We
don't ve aspacfor. And
now e tcu hathe w
facity tre that we
nting. Mt of tse peoe
are ba. So thenly pele
who arworkinfrohome some
oplerom financ We dot
yehave tt spe availabl
We're workg on itand pele
whha a medicaexse to
beorng frohome. And I
lieve was Cosioner
Doy who sa he wanted t
ke sure tht least the
boardspocy was conent
wi ainistration inerms
of ourdepame bringing
evybody backo work. I
eve now wee ready to
ing everybback to wo.
Soust wantedo put that
outhere as fs working
home. I brght up at
la meet copy of se our
travel bget over he last 4,
years. Derstand ebody
has but I'm noure staff
had ear he nod. I propos
roll thosback to atleast
2022 levelThent from
hly 500,000 90000. A lot
it with c, but a li
bit fromeach dartment. I
justt to ke sure it
clear we're dirting
stafto brg somethinck
to therd during is
budget cycto help cu
those cost Is that cct?
Gentle are Did Iet that
wrg? Commissr director
ank you,ir.
>> Comm.Ruex: I'm sure
we had odds onhat. But
wh I will sa I think w
ed to take look at
woshop at decide, y know,
withdministrats
guidanceich which ofse
becausme of thesprograms
arvery impor for the
s to get tse
aceditations to contin
the profesonalism of
departmes. So I re like
to hunderstandg of what
they arso that we this
withcalpel. Noa
chai.
>> That' excellentdea. I
don'object to actually
asd Hector ae point wa
while ago.Ou know, y
bring me sothing withr
recommenons after u get
with yr directord see
whatld beut. So we
had not ring that that
u know, sowork with
alpel. Neea workshop
ing back. Wre go. Oka
We've got 5 had We've got
alpels ay. I knowwe'
got a long with landuse.
So Ihink whategood
Commission Deutsch,
going to cile back yoth
and lastall. OkAll
right.Re Okay that
endsy omments. S are
now 0pm and use ag.
Anybody ng testimo today
on a of the la use ems
if you'rgoing to s on
consent or gular landse
agenda, ease standand be
swin. Take yr oath wit
e clerk. Body givin
stimony poced and tahe
oath.
Please rayour righ
nd. Do youemnly swea
e testimonthat you'r
out to get do right?Nd
thank you.O you sole
swear? Testimony tt
you're abo to give ie
truth, thole truthnd
nothing t the trutlease
say ay. Thank u.
>> Comm.Iseo: Okay I'm
goin open up t public
inpu This s for land
consent agentems. Only
at's va on
>> Thrgh 8, t are
consitems. If're here
regular agenitems
for use will t to those
xt. OkayIs there anyby
wishing topeak on cot?
Only? Pase come frd
state name. Youill
have. 3inutes. Ani have
Doct Mary Elless on too.
Mmends Ba DR. Mary l
kissepresentin bring
Storridor coition. E
Brewst Corridor ition
respully reques. That
e board ofounty
commisoners de approval
he prosed modifion.
>> To dg pg finadetailed
si Plan or c onfor 2,
whicwould incr the
deveent by 100 tional
dwng units. D this is
see that Ce, they. 2 of
ese propos Euce 96 woul
ted withinhe coastal
gh hard areas rng
siificant cons about
potential pacts on t
watershed mwater
mament and dinage
capaci of the sunding
areaWere paicularly
coerned about the ting
homeong troute, hich
joinhe exion area a
they be espeally vulnee
to existand future
flooding cditions. Ae
board isre, the fil
brief surgin eport preped
by Kimhorn has rently
beeneleased. Our oalition
urrently riewing the
repo's finding
recommendas to identy
the highes Priority
ainage impvement pros
and to evaate a corrve
actiond lunchroo
safeards neede address
istent drainageershed
and floodissues throhout
tharter. Until th review
revi has been cometed and
thcounty has deterd how
willbe impnted 3 por
recommendaons. We believe
uld be premattopprove
addional residal density
this areaAccogly. We
spectfullyrge the board t
nsideratioof this rst
and torain from proving
y increaseand willi units
in existievelopment
ether throh transferf
density rections
designatitigation s or
mechanisinto t critical
n. A foot, gei
concerave been aquately
addrs. We dnot think
on should taken. To
prove any hese expanon
projectsThank you.Hank
your commentsman.
>> Anydy else wig to
spea consent itonly
pleaome forwarstate.
Yourame for the recor You
will he 3 minutecan see
nody rise. Ionna we're
nna go thrgh the con
Commissiminute youre
sorry, Mter Richieu're
recoed. Ststate your
me and whi item. Richie.
And I'ing to be lking
about.Thact same im. Dr
ss was jusspeing about.
At's va to
>> Yeah, t 2 do va oa
too.
We're a l lull in
e. U know, it really
insting if y all are
liening to tetro
fore earlier. Yoknow. We
never hearwe need a
hoital. Nowe word.
>> And ssee in va e, you
wanto do 204 units the
va to youant to 100
ngle-familots. And some
96ots within coastal
hazard ar.
We are rinow. The Pce
ver and thyakka Ri
with all the rawhi
wasn't vermuch rain.
Evody.
>> Is stl at the lt
watermarhey've beein
story. Comioner Dority
commsioner nstance
cosioner to mmissioner
uax commisoner Deuts
Did you hear thThe lowest
water lels ever?
>> I just hed all.
>> Bon Moody'soing to
get volved. Wegoing to
this one. 're going
get that on But what'e
one commenominator
Commissier Dohertyn't
the oys take?
>> I wt everybod this
chamin the couy to hear
answer. Ty not ke
becaustheris toxic
polled water ie Peace
Ri
>> n have a frnd of mine
o made a cnt the other
downne of my post o
cebook ande's be in the
Peace Rivelongern any of
ever have. He's his
chil in the Pee River
th.
>> came ba from the ital
and an still wer ski,
bareot. And, yoow, he
sa the wateror of the
r has chand drastica
Why? Every r is a
difft color fr Tampa Bay
CharloHarbor. You kw
why Ms becse of osphate
mini dischargiNo, you
guant to contito re
housess, why? The's
11,000ouses for right
no Charlotteounty. How
can yowith colle
educationsHon you or
stafre staff? U know
th'm not telng
commissiontaff's rubr
stamp and this stand
they'rt followinthe
rules. Because ware
investing that bck and
whit And you kwhat we're
eing, doesadd up. Thank
yo sir.
>> Any b wishing tspeak
on connt items, ent land
Cg. Nobody se.
Commissier anythin pull?
Ye. Let's fua to and
about So t va to
commsioner to accounts
the thingsmissioned
ady nothin I have
nothg else movthe
balling. Have tion a
cond to mo the balanIs
there further dision?
Thery oppositi to the
moti, ok? The nce has
bepproved of csent.
Commisoner do itu pulled
o You're rognized
present. Wisclosures
mmissionerYh. I met my
commissi or 2 most
Commoner Constce,
dilosure.
>> Cmissioner onthly
stbriefing wh the
communy DevelopmCounty
Atey's Officenvironmen
paperwork this morng.
>> I hady monthly f
meetinand also rved
e-mailm Doctor Ks. And I
fid my discles.
You'ecognized en you're
rey. Whenevyou're ady.
And think rry. Okay.D
afternoor record. Shl.
Can heo nt Penn t
>>etition dr6 Dash 0, 2,
c 7.S a fine a final
deta site planSoe's
requesti what patientl
pt l detaiay, Plan o
25 dash 1, 4, 2, apoval,
sey Abe fus across w
and previo. It's cal
si life. Andhe prosed
projecconsistf you call
priestn 1996, knweaving
thastal s area and for
lo with him on. Coast
ea f a total 100
singleily. Lots.So the
enti project c10, 6
68.4, 3 acs and is led
to thet side of rnt
storad and we n come
distct 2. This is geral
locati of the sut.
ProperAnd the is the
ea image othe subject.
Operty at ll ange. You
see that a located t
e east sid burnt sto
road. And tha 2026gle
Butte e of the sject.
Proper. D the prop
zoned Pb I just wd to
be a ese projecese
e agent pd dying 20
and they 5 jor
modifions r these
prt have sine-family
hos muchf the homeey
have. The last te s
down, whicwas year. So
the d approvedd rezoning
r he site. Shas te
right up to230 units.I
last t transferthe
densit'm sorr actuall
dca in Februa MARCH, the
ju95oastal higzard.
And eve, becauortion of
thproject located, t
wheezing, coastal ar
3 yearago and they did t
transf 2024. Non astal
high hard densit the
subjprop, the base
d stuff ase, 6 units.
Last yeaey didn't m,
modifition. So the chanc
y t of the Pept
plan. Pull she oe
density located ithe
coastal gh hazard. So
that's w already tyear
ey filed thTdu and Csthe
ceified. The 9 non
coashigh hazardensity
off the site ahe ple. 95
coastahigh has a un to
site. Sot was downnd
approvedy the boardthe
lution. So basic aof
to the si has 6 base
nsity unitwhh could be
cated in toastal has
. An95 transferThe
coastal s a densit
site. So tse is actu the
fa 2 of thpd. So
come ful100 un 96ts
would ocating thcoastal
highhazardas and loced
outside ast rea. So you n
see these the zon You ca
e as zone ng a x Sunday.
Very spreazone. An
these e U.S. A pwhich
you e to the lthe
city face oor 120 uts
and then tse isn't nt
one. They'reuesting
these me tvacationor the
approval face to ha 96
resides. Units wbe
locate the coast high
hazarea nd for un
would be led outsidef
coastal hathe arnd his
fidetails say frt,
comprisi least allpd
coions. Commsioner, do
ve a quen?
>> Yea just wanto
clarify right nowe
site is it's a tol of
68 acr. Is that ect?
Yes.Whatapproved right
noon thate.
>> Therezoning aroved
the si full up t20 30
unit
>> Total. Hony? 230? So
they cou go build units
on ight now. So thel
final des. A plan at's
approv by the PDoning.
Sos already en approve
r those yoy, ok? Does
this a another 1f we
apprthis now because w
prove, thawhere that
ndreds that it w little
coing. Ad this bee
it lookse we're adding 100
ngle-familits to tha
>> Yes, he proven to030.
They d face one appral,
units. So e sinful
unit the to me try
it we approvthis today
>> Comeutsch: Th'll only
beble to bui00, not 20
Is tcorrect?
Or these fes 0 face
122, whicis greenSo
whole site u feel prod
today thatould build222
unitby the pd rezg
approvedident. Youright
o 230 unit
But that'already be
approved syes. D this.
Sos doesn't d a new
unit Now. What doethis do
thatIt's a fina
>> pt finatail say pn.
Okay. Acrding to d9.45 p
so you hav concept plan
to rezing approvome back
the bod.
>> To apove the fiWhat
we dday has noffect on
thnumber unihat's
consnt. Correct. L
right. Tha you. Ou do. The
esentationas a show.
So Yeah. Younow, if yo
ve any mo, ok, any
qutions for f? Ok
We're gonnen up thistem.
4. Ll, we alr have
publ. Evsince we nt t
nsent on Ld does thaan
for thi write a?
Anybody wiing to spen
this lease comeward
statour name f the
record
omm. Truexi'm name I
muel Charl County
rent. Talkinabout the
and show nes in
Chartte Countyne of
thisd this is r thi
em.
>> If a to for taseya ok,
I'm rry. That'ay. No
prm. No probm. Any bills
veus pecan Vo.
And good ternoon.
Coissioners.Well,l you
, everybodtake a goo
ok at thisPul.
>> Iyou go onlright now
you put anyou pull t
build qualhomes. On't be
shd at what u In,
it. Do you homany milli
of gallonswater are ed
from Pol arty DeSo
Manatee Cy of Northt
cif p#
#
Gorn
Charlottunty. Aou guys
actual think we that
extrter. Give to tse
develope. Rporate
caed. Corpo cronyism.
At's what'going on h
EverybodBecausuly at
thoint n time,
unfounately, o the most
lligent th evsed to
stbefore this chber is
not re. And thatister
RichRussell. Mist
Richard Russelis a fw f
informatn. And what woulhe
be telli all of you right
noou guys dn't listo
me. Whatas it 3 4ears ago?
Heasn't heren he
suggd the morarium on n
more issng a build
permits. And yoknow wh?
We've got time.
I cdb. I a
>> we got of pay tolay
in this unty. And wee
11,000 hs for sal And
then y all want ome
here. 95ouses are he
high f coastal ze or the
fldplain areWhy d you
guyst to approve
someing? Why w you want
to uprany mhousing
depment in t county? U
know, d a lovelyalk with
door pits. I'sure you a
know RichaHe not a
dumm You knowt he I
talk aboow, weo talk
abouwater qual We talk
t water qutity. And
what'sng to bevailable
toll of us. I want ebody
in tchamber inn the
countynd the citto
derstand.
>>o you wantknow where
rld headed
>> We're hded to to
represtion. We'lnot yet
fronof this. Yoe. If to
me save e peace in
myakka iChare Harbor.
Are a few f you're
ous about, you woul
teennifer, is seen at
yore going tet
You're g to be witmay to
comep with a p Not abo
money. When we co back to
th. Theind in wate
ters will gorned here.
D you knowt? We've r
out guys, ter. Aft th
meeting. Iave to heat to
DeSoounty. Becausof t
moratoriume the ai da
centi wish I cod be in
natee Countyid it beca
having a ratorium v I I
data cented you knowhat
they wanto do.
>> Bui nuclear actor to
gerate powerfor tdata
centThey want build in
Noh Port. Not ju about
have had wh tack change
want to hearut.
>> Cha We wan
provementsn't have t
water guys
Every timy one of uin
this cer do 10 t50
props. That's water, 550
militers Dr tance. And
u know whait costs to se
e-mail attorney TIt cost a
battle of 850 mliters
ofer. And u guys, yo
got to htodaow all of
voted for yoys that
yoth us. Thaour
commenk you.
>>m. Tiseo: ank you.
Anne else wig speak on
is item. Pase come
foard. You'lve 5 minut
state. Youname. Thison
va to y Abe.
Gofternoon, chard.
Litt. CharloCounty
sidents. I belie that's
wh they callinal detai
site pup until weeks,
mayb2 months ai had no
what thats. I'm
learniast. Tis more
foe audiencet home wat
us on tv. Is the time
to involved cause of
l detail. Te plan co
with somet called
coions. Nd unless can
him anpeach one the
conditionsthis is gog
through nojust this
delopment. E developme
afterwardsIf it getsthis
fafolks,f you wantn
in develnt, this coun
you've gotget invo at
the mtings far re it
ever to the fil details
si plan. Unfornately, I
thk if there'so faulting
the nditions h this is
g to be apoved
regardss of how vacant
lohere are. Because 's
gotten tthe final ils
silan. So fos at home
geinvolved feyond.
Lettthis t to a fin
detail sitplan. Thanor
your t Thank yousir.
Anybodelse wishio speak
onto please me forward
ate your n For the
rd. You'llave 5 minu
>> MR. Cman, I seeo one
else ring and waose
publicut so thathe
motion s to close ic
input.There any rther
discuson? There y
oppositiono the moti
public inps closed?
Commissionoherty, Mr
airman movapproval oto
second, mo second to
prove to. There any
further diussion? Yei
just wouike to yea we
are at fal site Planeview,
whicmeans it'sgot thugh a
progion of pubc hearings
and meet. I think ou
look ae staff rert, this
was in 2000. What
that ain? When it first
? But comeck was 200
>> firezoning Person 7
yet 2005 t.
>> Comm.Eo: Yes, o yeah.
Thissn't new. Come
backis differe
iterationsnd some chs
over the y. But I thk
one of thepeakers that
prom this to bpulled, we
weren't ng units iexcess
of wt it was ady
approvor. I thinthat was
point thathe boa
wanted to ke. This ithin
the ting 2 units, no
extra. It'what was ready
titled to. Property nt
to make re we got on
the recordIs there a
further discussio Is there
oppositionHeg? Ne
that ps unanimsly 5 to
0.E areow going tmoven
to regularand-use thb on
And that iwas I cial
star my left. Commisoner
Deutsc
>> And I tnk microone,
them. At was Stepnie Visit
thsite. Knhere was se
neighbors ere. I don
recall thee Th
closures.
Constance ived the some
e-ils and otinformatio
some of dclosure
docunts. Commined
alread
>> a lot, Of my mohly
staff brfing with unity
deveent. The cnty
attorney office in it
actu public wos on this
. I also h a meeting
th Richard says the
littnd they diuss they
wa to discusny of the
condns. Also the Eart
moving 3 dh 5 dash, 4,8,
3, das This 79
otrwise. Butt was the
of the nversation
yeah, nume emails which I
fileall of thahis
morning.Than
Comm. TisThank you,
ah, I alsoet with st
met with tittles and
ceived numous e-mailll
of thawas filed led my
papeork. Okay. Are
recogn shout to esent
the b-e.
Good afteoon for th
cord, Jay l me, he
giveim could hmeant we
in my planng my
alificatio a nning
expeId a bachel's of
act. Iyour degand a
er of commity plaing
degree. Have beingde by
Chare County aa
pressional per for mor
an 22 year uthwest
enering and sign. Is
requesting peak Haitdrc.
Dash 0, 75, ich is apd
finatail site an
approvalor the water sid
storation oject. These
projectsite contai
approximat293 acres
an located inorth of
Burm Road in east, the
co and subject prerty's
alsoocated in ission
dict. One. Se is a
image of subject.
Erty. This se 26 ego
w image ofhe subject
operty. Andthese the are
age of thisubj
Propertyfull rangee
bject propty is desied
as mormfy mixed e. And
we t planned dopment,
zo. So I wod like t
pride a briestory of t
property. Thesapk. She s
originallycheduled f
consideratby the board
26 2026.A consent ag
item as board t, it was
esented du the pup
hearing and subsuent,
contind to todaypublic
aring. Thas why we'r
re. Some MAY23rd 2023,he
board ofCountyommissione
oved ordince number
2023Dash, 0, 2, pd
rezoniapprimately 740
res and thubject
propty. Well, final
deta site plan.It
eastportion ofroperty?
Y's hearinis reed
Charlotte ty code
sens. Re Dash 9.45.
Plned develot toure
that the prosed pt fi
detail saplans. It's
constent with ted pd
ndition come beingadopt
dinance. Nber 2023, Da
0, 2, 0, Specificly on e
screen is appved and adt
apd We juse that e
deparment nsist 2 ph has
showe propose neral pd.
Cont plan. So I woullike
to crify e u of phase
onand phase 2 inse
rezoning ilely for
locaon purposed it's not
tended to present th
ission. ULasing of t
project.
To appved and add pd
condition.E listed,
rmitted actities and u
in phase oSo thut
total 7 permit
actities and uyou can
se tcreen. The firs
e storation ect and
spic us tastet fal
teaches ping approis
reired prior tohe
commencent of the
Restorion Projecand shall
beimited to rm of 1
ars calculat from dateof
the l Pete fin details
si plaapproval. Nr
2 and abendrange Grovto
be re ored was ne trees
anderstory vetation. And
item 3. A tive plantnursery
ted in the identify
ursery andree farms.
Can see on tprove pd
ncept plannd nr full
remo the old centst
ees d excavati the area
tomove removSo youm
decades quaculturese.
And er 5. Wesavingws
mulch vegetion to create
mpost for replanng native
trs. And numb, stop
hiding of ecuting man
maturewant you tCade in
area idened as
stocile and the mamum
heightthe. Shall be
more than0 feet. Andalso
e Ways Assess uses,
cluding bunot lited to
scarhouse and ing and
eqent. So RJrea. And
alsopproved d adopt ap
nditions. Li t
existingpermittetivity
anes in phe 2. She
see e why exisng
mulchingration is rt of
an appved. Isting
commcial excavn permit.
And nt to poinout there
ispproved and add pt
conditn e specificay with
plie that pd rezoni is
requed in orde implement
the oved rule ming to
d use mastean to hav
mixture of resential and
commer uses the tal the
0 acres. So r these fi
detail pd fal dl say
poin only for e astern
portn of the ect
properor the resration
Projt. So you can on the
sc. It sws approve
Jenna pd ccept whichthe
left also the propopt
final ils. A plano you
camparison. Ah.
Substaially consnt th
approvedenna pd concept
t. The prosed. Pt fal
detail s plan. So the
res of the testing as
ired by a pd condit
j. I uded in e file
mber 3 also apoved pd
commisoner l welbeing
ed only if thapplt
removes excavated terial
fromhe properti shou I
kind of to talk about
condion, ut is coupl
slides yan see at's used
a storation. You can
e site for entirse
and they wl have the
storation ect sed,
the center a you can
see plan to ve Suse
else fulof these restoratn
project. Sthis is cene
and thuth to andells 3.
And e says aftnieces
wn.
>> Thesethe sitas will be
prep for the fure.
Who'llome to make sh But
thate they muscome to
board full pd rezoni
So the ashown the te.
And migation plo
reduce tound der, fast
equired by food. The
condion it's ided in the
le named fter Afric
Mition plan. Sthat
Africahas 7 app rovided
no mition measurend
older prenting andrespon
measures a asked.
Suression anair qua
protectid also the
ided surfa and
groundter morninan. So
the updat I traffiit
study iso part of the
package for the ocation
ane file namis 9 under
sc. Watersidexcavation
I s. And en hisry. All the
hurrice traffic the
subjt propertiAlso p
of the BCckage and e
file me is 1her school
rican hurrane traffiThe
rican has asubmitted
terside so and water
quy memorand, which is
cluded as 5.11,the bcc
pae for thesitem. The
transcpt for MAY23r23
bcc adon hearingor the
PDezoning foe suect.
Proper is attached s
filed numb 12. So I
stamps professi pending
prop pt final tail si
plan compli wheeze thp
pd ctions available
answer any tions you y
have.
>> t you. Thanyou. I had
ster Davidthe Thank.
Thanyou. Yes, re
recogn. Thank yo MR.
Cherryounty timethe
unty attory.
>> This a little of an
unuscircumstan or so
ago. Little co of
keepinems that Iant to
makeure we geto the
recoGenerallwhen we
hearg, we do no back
throh through the
presenons ain, but t
board dire staff
essentiastart ov since
is me like a rring. Then
a contuance. Buty of
thatat that mes is that
applicant ll get ano
opporty to puto the
re the factsIt feels
imrtant to iase. Hey'll
be oortunity fhe puic
to mcommentshin the
saules that generally
ply for thtypes oof
hearingsi also wan have
Dagoes come are my
assiant county attney and
to rd into theord the
strd of revi for fo
pd site approvIt's
difft from zong. We
don't back and the
zoningnalysis. Tis just
tolement theite. Plans
uld like tve that ple
in the recd. MISTER R
wiour cordance s can
haveclean hereAnd thank
yo There's njection from
the bod. You're recognized
r.
>> ButDavid was ose,
Assistt Countyorney. He
before theoard is
approvr denial. E final
detas site Thi not a
rehearing the pri ring
or gen pd ccept plant
the apicant. The the
initburden of owing that
e plan complies wthe
compreive plan Acal Burt
plicable rulations athe
requirents and tpproved
PDditions anconcep
ant. The boarmay consid
the idence relt to thos
criteria aay resoe
factual colex in theord.
If thplicant sasfies the
applicablecreria, the board
many the pla only upon
mpetent ansubstaial
evidencedentifyingcific
unmeiteria. The b MAY
deny the pla based
sole on gelized
oppoon or ren
disagreeme with the
priously appd pd
enement and MAY no
materily amendin. Then
tiwent throu the final
tails sitepl review. An
oposed modication mu
proceed r the code r
or minodificatioprocess
is aestablishmof the
co code. Tha you.
>> Wstand readister
chaiswers. Manquestions.
Got a lotsff over th
transo the last nth or
so we're avaable to
answ those quens. And
thposing to. We'll ha
some answer you. Andf
we don't, 'll try tofigure
best way toaddress
thquestions.Hank Thank
u, sir. Anquestions
staff befoove on to e
applicankay. The a
applicant n please. U're
cognized, I just took
MR. Vid,
>> Com Deutsch: ad some
dision on th maybe Tom
n help me on this. This
is restorn. The proct is
part oBut twe were to,
as I recalthe lasti
talked abo that there
thing thatded to be
ored. Use there sn't
a probm. Thsoil being
ntaminated that corrt?
MR. Chairew minutes
me. Countyttorney wh
would recoend sirs twe
give the applicant rtunity
toaddress yourstions. If
u have queions for,
they wil the best es to
answerthosestions. A if
not, wn have staff to
justt to was tre a
traffistudy? Youd?
>> Ywe do havene of the
trfic study. Many
vehi per day dithey
identi around a mber that
great thinbecause rt
of theson I'm is nt
out thte. And I e
Burma, r less you ry
have to.Ou don't wto
drive a, Road we dropped
e speed lit there bee
who are erned th safety?
Think the eed limit
45. I s doing 50o 55 and
's used tr really bl
me off theoad. If he's gog
to be a ng operati. It's
a ght. We dohave the
fic study ere. Just
look at. Bthe tropi,
those in record, wh's
that? The trc studies d
they're OKthat's why
rning, howy trucks per
hour, because there's a
ning opera. The es for
me y could have 8, or 10
ks an houroing love
the, pullingand out of
at site. Nto the 9,,
we can tonht because
traffic just conceed
about puic safety use
that'sou know, r busy
all time. A to add
anotr 100 truin and
might be aety issue.
Don't ow if thatnvolved
heor
>>r. Sheriffthink the
thing y would llow
the icant to aress it
u raise thestions. I
think l they havsome
ents to th effect. Y
can also ataff to trfic
engineerin back. You
any specific qions on
trc that he'here dress
that.
Ut I wouldecommend t
we let it rom as we n
check ave to go.Isten to
th. Thank yout maybe w
n check onhe number how
marucks per ur would b
and out oat prty.
And how many hrs a y
because usuly that I
mining otion, thers a
lot of tffic. All righ
Thank Thanu, sir.
>>kay. The tpplicant I
w recogniz to presen
There's a out will srt
when youtart talkii'll
stt. Well, hdone have
problem. Rtson, big law.
I haveeen sworn irst and
most. We aept shower
xpert for this heari
I'd like tart by ma
sure at we all call why
wee here. E's a MAY 9th
2026 mandum fr Marion
Fran oning supeisor to
the norable Boof County
mmissionerregarding drc
25. 0, 7, final det
site platerside phe on
storation where inust a
final details silan
approvor water se pse
one. The site isignated a
le communiMixed use.
Fil details consists of
clring approxately 293
or minus res of Cit
Grove in rtoring
proximatel63.3 7 acres to
depth of 1feet. E
excavatiill be backld
and mpacted back to existg
grade plusr-2eet. T
area will gre open spac
d restoredith severa
erent natural getative
communs and is csistent
withhe county'
compreheive plan a
existingPDditions. T
memo es on thathe final
Sipeinal detaiite plan
lies with alconditions
well as b in complice
with the final oved
concplan. D the fina
deils site phas been
oved throu the site
review pss. Psal will
create anyncurrency
ises. And baon
analysis cusion set forth
hein in aff's profsional
opinn, the applicion is
gerally sistent wi
Charlotte unty's
compreive plan. Charlotte
unty's code ows and
dinances a other
applic guideline This is
mply a proct ect where
waste was ought in dg
the aftethe Hurcanes.
Land wasas tu into
mulcThat was turned
into cpost. The will be
excavated remove th
isting soid some shell
and replacith the coost
mixed wi sand that
removed. I thyou,
Commissi Constanceor
requesti traipt of th
iginal hearbecause I s
not the atrney at th
original hring, t there
walot of talk duri our
previo hearing inay, how
board wasled being told
at the sits contamined
and need to be exced.
Founately, ae en the
tranpt is aglossy of
all thter and eve time a
terms sed, its givethe
page numr and the line
er, word continate
is used oncehen our expert
r soil tesed that th
will will ar gloves when
dointhe soil sampli. So as
not contamina soil
amination s never
mentioned herwise. We have
mel of he contentns. 4,
approvalf the fidetail
plan appro We haet all
thnditions othe approved
PDnd we ask your
approv, MR. Bainl
continue
For the rd, Gary Ba,
Southwest gine earrind I
havebeen swo MR. Dunca
you pause.Pause ime for
mem sorry. Yh. I just
wa to make sthis
hand This is f official
rd. Yes. So th
corrt. How we
Commissiononstance, u're
in the. Thank yoo I
don't have a lem with t
applicant d their rits. I
guess problem iat this
telephone ok was jusnded
to t's absoluty no way
th I caat I can lk
ugh this, ng on and
coume it. And so there's
way that public had
cess to th prior to
meeting foem to be ae to
reew it, to comments on
it. Sohis puts us in a v
difficult poon cause all
handou, all all s that
wee supposedo be.
>> Com Constanceat are
sued to dispyed in
look at are sued to part
the electnic recordor
to the meeti. So I havck
to t I don't kw if I
wanto have throut or
fro suggest at we have
re here bse the pubc
isitled to riew this.
It's jusa summer bally
fore.
>> o I'm just st to sum
itThat's all is pd
coions.
Comm. Tru: Commissi
Truex. Y I was jusgoing
say ifou look at I the
Cayou'll note. It talk
about all pd conditithat
we ady have th
informatioon. You hao
more discuson. Just
organized, just orge
and laid. So it's
differenformation.Nd
what's aually avaie just
lat more rea correct?
Food riew Foremaeah.
Wentthroh the firsuple
of tabs and itust appear
w they forded what w
alrey have jusr easy
tation, I gus to get t
. If you wto look up
eah, it's 's basical
freeze in in this
ing. If thcondition
ought up, u have thect
languaf that contion and
thresponse iit's to ake
the heing easier you
guys you haveestions.
>>an just yoill have t
floor? So that's thcase,
agaith wasnrepared
today. Whyn't y includ
is and hanthis over
aff and hathemut a
digita online? Use
it, yoow, understand
just doe't really ted
when I going put part y
prestation andn
presenta became wao
long onltitled to to
through erything. The pd
condions. I juon't h
the time Iet that. Yhat.
So It wanted to organ
whate submitd for. Dr
stl hasn't stted to
Could theyot have suted
this tbe added aan
attachme to this im? I
mean, just camewith
lasteek like, oh,
coissioners ng up.
Nu one pointwell, taken
on tnsparency.Hink
anytwere handomething
public's eitled to s
what we'ven handed in
nce. So ye, to in th
ture will loaded upn
our websito a digital
at just toe another
exbit. So we're cered.
>> Com Tiseo: Andon't
thin a have toave the
attoey way intur other
t. Mmissionerstance,
I k of an applicant,ts
to subsomething for t
public recd. If we cdeny
at, I thinthey're ened
to subfor public recd.
>> You'rtalking to
county aney. We th
arings thawe had gelly
peopleowed to submi
domentation.Ve taken
sel documentas we've
be here today. Sit's that
is gener the that'MISTER
Air. So I I think at the
apant, if it part of h
case ichf, he's ty
he's aed to prest this
as pt of his ence.
>>m. Tiseo: d to your
pot, I thinkay we've h
at least 2r 3 outs that
trying to through I
e middle oe meeting at
the publ doesn't h But
do. Thist happens be
able Mr.Hairman yopoint
don't lookListenand
need to back ame point.
Ll look athem. But
>> it ke every o thing.
I the day ofts pretty
ha to go thr it yet. But
didn't undstand how as
organi just wanto bring
it up. Okahe applica's
recogniz continualrt
ur time.
>>omm. Const: Good
afoon. Commiioners jus
nt clarifyouple thin.
The slpresentati I had
to f a couple lides that
ey out of r same
hts littleit differe
Just like 3 ports ls.
Thank for givings this
oppounity to cback and
ent the prect e
detail th this it
orinally wascheduled.
Appeared oyour conse
agenda, quite frkly. I
wasn prepared give a full
presention cause I di't
think onwas cessary.
Loing back. Tually gla
're here bse it gavee
the opportity to go ba.
Watch the cc hearingm 3
yeago reviewestimony a
really ink about at was
the ggest misustanding
ounding thproject.
Before Iin, I'd li to
clear upone pointe never
reesented thhe soles o
is propertwere
ntaminateddurihe
plannind zoning aring a
concned citizen asere
property mht contain
ntaminatedls. Rather
debate thissue. We
aged to have sole
teed. So we ly tain
DaviBrown, hrologists
torite specitions for
ing the sos from for
andoned Cius pros. A
that is acly help pd
ndition. Jame about.
Today. We done exacy
what we prom. The testg
has een comple Th
ports haven submitte
d incln is exact at
we expd. The soi are not
coaminated. But we he
consistent said ng the
hearg waat the prorty
has opered as commal
Citrusve for deces. And
lihe onutrients row
hatat. We'reking r
like so grows thrghout
southwt Florida.Rus
grning cankeend alterm
in therece hurricane
broughthe ento ts
operionsThat is whwe're
here tay. Back intohe ne
sle. Back in 20, th
proper cameart of an
apoved worldommuni.
Mixed us The overalplan
encomps apprimely 0
acrewithough 0 acs
beinuseds a mmercial
Cius Grove. Yearlater
aftethe concplanas
approvedAnd aftel the
hurric, we ask yrself a
simpleuestn. If a
significanportion of
property iquired der
futured use desiation or
CMtoemain permtly open
space, wideied as an
anned Citrus. Why
t restore it to soin
that pdea long-term
ennmtal benefit? The
quti became that queio
became t fation of this
project. Nt slide.The
restation area boryo
today isoulyabou63
acwith anher. 2acs
ofandscaberms at will
ill needo be constct
ne slideheroject I
this proje is noabt
waterse dpong o
contamatedSot's aut
reorg an olcitrus
operion hareacd the d
oftsroductivli. Next
id Nexide. J. E
concis actually et
stht fward. Our goalas
toreate a prect thatel
fulfill e sion by
reacing repling deet
rrells fthe Citrus
ove, Floda nnati
bith future
genetions caenjoide.
Backn 22. 23, our unty
was cewithFacewith the
teath of Huicane Ian,
the unty, along th fema,
cid that instead usi
thcoty's olandll for
disposg of yard was, Br
Whe ouook foa facity
that alrey permitng
savi the couy's rspa.
Savi the county'airsce
tee fithat bill and
a permencility wi
fdp toecei yarste and
lot clring dris.Weook
an appximaly 60000 rds
of muh anlandscing. Be
withinthe unty ring th
ti frame nt slide.Inead
viewg the marial as
st We saw an oortuty
rough coosng bleing
wi nativsoils at
teri cld be partf a
long-term restotion proct
coletehe er would
be rlanted witnati
communies, iding ak
Hak, Pi Flatods,
Cius tes andmeow
habitatsand our ewhis
projecs lt. Seral
proble once estored
formCiusGre, wel
eang a pernt naral
preservethat is consiste
the couy'long-term
si for is propertAnd
's allheounties dimm
from Huice Ian sing wa
side to die of t
coty malnstead are
usg their own faty. Th
next slides.Herare some
dre photos tt e ofhe
mmsions asd for givi
u a btevi othe
faciliesGo rl quk.
Thiss. E Soutest
opty cner nd of
oking rtheast.Oucasee
althe dris starngo get
overbuthoperions
fuher to theiddle. A
siteext lineSamengle
stooki was thnorth
a ttleit. Ne slide. This
thoperatioitlf. U
casethe nd rowof
compt. T mulchg
eration ckmeanserad
and are cator eir ne
slid This from thEa
Propty. Boun loong wes
e storion ar. We sit
righin the cteof ts.
Ts weekthe this
opertybut 5yearago,
weeced, u kn, thBig
Grovwawas ne becse
cat currt citrusndou
can seth reay. On tha
in the rth anan on th
westnd like thg s t
thinis reallyrong tre.
'sreenbut it ot
ei. Tirnd
evywre. E nothg's
rely grong. Nextli.
Is is e proper okin
fromheorthst rner
lookg lookg westnext
slide.Th is the omthe
nortest corn lkingast.
Ne line.Th is fromthe
sa northst corneloing
west a y canstill e
erthe lch rit there
onrown. Anth in thfa
leftorner,ou can s e
opation. Here'sre
acd deis to e top of
yourcreen the.Ext ide.
So durg at'she dro
foote duringhelanng
anzong a Bc hearin
seral technil estis
we rsed gardin
oundter ansoiteing
that w ruireunder
nditn. J. I'd keo as
Dad Brn to smarize t
relts of t ttinghat
s rford.
Nextlide.
Plse. Y names David Brn
anthe Natialprtice
leing 0 geoly for my
compan Respectave ov 40
yes of pfessiona
expeence iFloridand
ceified ofession
geogist. Today,'m gonnao
thugh somef e so and
war qlity datatas
collecd theubject
oper.
>> Iyou lookt is le
th ian rial m, you ca
see me locatnsn th
cent othe yeow orae
okg syols. Tse are
withinhe excavedrea.He
statioarea. D that's
whersoil sameswere ten.
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and grndter ality
from generlytablwith
lonutrie ccenttions.
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the coty for yr view
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dathroh waterrus.
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hour Receiptandhat in t
12ear histy wat side.
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ve nev acpteduman
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reques a who dfere
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portg ty ofperation
and procures is t our
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matealnd mch. And
cause 's not ay li
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materialOn wh eur or
maged rrectl Moisturs
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timate become ermanent
tive hitat. Grtl
proving e ng-tm
aparce othe ppey.
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havebit ve alrea bn
incorporednto oupls,
our peitand r day -- day
opatio. And Februar
th 26, Wateide had ei
nual sitinecti with
the FDd thfdp fod
thcilitye in comiae
with theeration anhat
expliclyddrees thos
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onofhe se of tse that
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stimonand all tt th
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cordYou wi have 5
minute
just fore youefe I
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pracce some oddecorum.
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thatIf you spo witthe
speaker yi jushold yr
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arlottCounty a
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d requeny rejectew
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nes to segrd t aqua
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for
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caus is n can. Now,
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work likth guyas.
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homes.Hiis f too cse
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be permiinany re san
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been phoha ming in this
ambe I pernally leth
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at w the gatest ay in
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ng te. Youknow why
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ofs.
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hoest mmissi in this
statof all 6cotiesNo
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wh you d. E ed tbe
nsertives.T lirals.
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enronment,otiber with
thchiren's furenot
libera Wh thelr Les
futu, ot leral wh our
qualy of life a pase
turn ts ck u Because
caget way ud. Of
li. Whato you gu wt to
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qualitises ithis cnty.
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th thehank ou, erybod
did u put ese tape
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ow. Y do y put the 2
me's up?
>> Ihink thas r ta
rerd. Nonotas here,
but ease comfoard.Ou
ve mines sta. Your
name f the recd.
>> Crty Man, Pea River
Shores
mmsions, youave just
hearthe plant atrney
MR. Bes th submifor
threcordhe JUNE 24 26.
Memoraumrom Maon Frank
whicstates ts nal tail
si placompli with ll
nditionsndth
plicion. Fal detai
si plan dr 2ther 5
is generlyonsient wi
Chartte Coty's
coreheive pl. Charloe
Coty's codofaws and
dinanc and oth
apicable gdenes.Or the
rerdi belie publ
testimy and domeary
eviden psent todayWi
demonstre at t recor
es n estabsh that.He
nal detas te pn ne
colies wh all requid
coitions. 2,t's nsiste
wi cckab Crlotte
Countyode of ls d
ornances. D e la
stemt. Pleasee carefu
Apoving muh d coost
p ojec whichre ready
on apicants, opty athe
fef a wiland
refighr. Thereavbeen
manynsncesf fire
arti from lch pis. And
we allnow BurmRo is e
la place wree wod want
at hpen.Lease not
t yr citize a fir
reonrs idangerThank
u. Tha you.
>> Anydyishi to spk,
plse comeorrd. Ate
urame.Or theecord.
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I ore toell the an for
the co. Sue Litt
Charr Coun residen
ore tell e truth.D
onlyhe tru. Does tt have
any meing? In 23, Jerry
Westlo tated theoil ha
en draded years
fertiz, incticid
plicion. Th no pof
Justla mon. Shn
Cuinan connuto cl soil
ntamated I ema to
thboardsWitho oof.
Tted.Nd nowhe story
is oy deplet. Deeted.
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pletedoes the ho
amber. Did anydyeat?
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magent at, alytical
resultindicatetheoil
aly is genell
reprentativeof natal
curring.Conditio. D th
anytal rults dnot
incatethe esencef and
row puconmitionTh
meanno hum impact.On
soilrepo, concluons,
states. Eriso evidenc
thatistoricacrus
cuivatio Orange ov Or
otr known onite at
Tiffy's ha resultein
gnificanimcts the
so. The ut t as th
plicts owneven doe
not taish theact facal
pricate r thexvati.
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reectful ask theoa to
ny the alicaon. Thk
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yo hy DRComment. Mb 7
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ould bevaluateunr th
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plan wch proded foyou.
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ptembe 17th 2024. A ot
date oJu. Seco, 20.
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was rveyeda t datthe
awg waplotte The
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thfid sueyas cducted
Sepmber 17th 24.
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>> Cm. TiseoUnle sak.
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have 5inutes steour me
r e rerd.
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stepinoday
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sterhairmaand
coissions. My name
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ouAssociatn.Rair Creek
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les om thiproposedin
te. Thdome titd pd
Coitio foapplicatn
20 to 14deifiethe
mmts a condions that
the plicant st satfy
bere fin detail telan
approv. Seion b,oman
meral e statesque. The
coitns lt cments
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one.5 te plan Rie
desionetter dad Augu.
2902revid Septber.
20th022 shl be metn,
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specicallyo commenmber
whichtates que.Phe
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ofhe hanout befo y.
Acrdingly.In the ruid
public note for th the
planni and zong ard d
thbod ofCoun
coisoner stes th
projt onehat would
ote, onlyllow r an
extingrove to be reored
to reserv with nave
getationn urt.
Addionally, t MAY 20
twentyhree's sffepor
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rening appcaon I
que.Only tallofor an
existi gve tbe estod
to areserv with nate
vetaon, d quot Th
estion borthbod is
strahtrwar s e
applicandenstred tha
ase e forestoratn.
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ovid by the plicant
titl Analisa prosed
13oot acuati Dept.
Excavaon deathHexplas
thbas fothe pros
excavati t anasis
stes, quot the 13 foo
cavaon st be bafied
wi comst at averagef
11 feet th t remaing
unfied dep requir f
the anng othe
statioarea a quote. In
th stementthe applan
direly disnguisheseten
e rtioof exvaon to
be bkfilled wi compo and
e remaing depth quired
for anng t restation
ar. Thanalys then stas
ote, the prosed 1foot
pth necesry for t
diosal of e MARCH.Vegel
haveebris d quote.Lease
te thepplicantirtly
distguishes twn t
depth reir or plaing
thrtotionrea anthe
dety stateis nessary f
diosition r the dissa
ofthmulch vegetave
bris. Ese arnot
words. Thesare the
plicant'wos anthey'r
rect quote e same
alys calcutes thatt
excavati wll pduce
approxately.1, millio
cuc rds sand d shell.
E stf portalso
deribephase e activies
atnclu excavaon
ckfillinstkpilin
excavad materis possle
f-site tnsr ofexvated
marialansuorti
operatiol cilies. The
assoated aivities xtd
beyond rtotionOn.
Finay, thepplicant
teimony descris sales
cavatemateals to y for
threstation oject.
Eay meinthe
distinivdefition o
commci excation.O
wordming. Plea
undeta thibvio
coluon ibas entirel
on t plicant'owlk
out and teimony whh
scribeactiviti
asciated wh e diosal
ofvetativeebris. T
exvation of 1.1 million
cubiyards ofanand shel
stockpilg d thsale of
evacuad teris commt. 6
es not steThat
restorion mu bene o
multleurpos incled in
phe e. It sily stes
asone for reorion.
Only you csider th
petion bereou plse,
ur y tdeclinthe
apoval othe faletaid
si pn. Tnk yousir.
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rerd. Yowill hav
mite
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joed t site Charlot
Coty. I ha dumen to
bm thai likencluded
threcord. Ea.
Goodternn. Comssioners
I co before u day
reesto dy appral
thfil detailsite pl
r dr 25 7, 5What aite
storion prect ecse p
conditn. I hasoteen
demonsat to satised.
Conditio Ihe pd stas,
thdeath e excavaon
acviti assocted with the
reoratn Projt shall
noore than3 et. The ke
raseere is assoctewith
the statioprojec
Applict ne. Testimy
denstratesat the foo
excati is t beindriven
by resration. At theublic
aring.He applans
Representi, MrKerry ne
ofouthwe Florida
Soutest engierg an
desi ttifi. The
justificiofor going 13
footeep is rllto g rid
ofhis bris, quote. A
the ants. Anys of
proped 13 fo eavatn
deh ntaid in t staff
reportStes at e
propertyaslrea accepd
approxately a lf milon
biyardof mch and tn
to antipes ceing
adtial 1illioncuc
yas r a tal
approximel1.5 llion
cuc yas. E me analys
exains thathexcavatio
lle bafilledith
coost ton averagdeh of
11 ft.Only 2eet,the
anti of threstation
ar, thr own anno
alysis dcred t 2 fee
qte, fill debt
reiredor the anting
quot Anher y to
deribehe nalysis 85
ofhe 13 foodeath is t
acmmodate geted
vetative dri Tho are 9
eir mbers,ot mine.Onl
feets requed to
estaish reored necnati
vetation. Enhe raining
feeof exvaon ests
acmmodatdebris tt
acceptednd conact.
Apicantsn eviden,
thefore shs that th
principajuificion fo
e foot cavations
debr managemt therhan
olicalestoraon.
Coitio I autris
exvati activies
asciatedith the
reoratn projt. Does
t uthoze excation wse
imy puose iso reat
dispalpacity f
apoximatel1.Milln
cubic yas vegative
deis sed on e
applans onestimo and
suorti analys. Th
iden does noemonstte
th the ll13oo
cavation assocted it
e rest pisresration
projecas requid
conditio Iorhat ason,
respecully reest th
ard termin that
coitn. Ias noten
dissatfi andeny approva
of t final dai sit
planThk yo Thankou.
Plea come rward ste.
Ur name.Orhe rord.
Yoll he 5 mites. Iave
haouts.
Colonel ri Tipn, United
Statesir Forceeted
Prairire Wes Good
ternn, geneman. The
doments arbeg suitted
inonjution withy
coents erc25, 75, t
te, e war side
storion.
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matealbe iluded the
aring reco a mard
reiv anddentifd as
ch. Y presenti wil
addrs of he pd coitions
th aery cle relaonship
today.Irst pd ndion,
RomaNeralor thorizes
excation of depled il
sociateditthe
restorioprojt. Before
granng finaldeils te
pl approva t records
shou containvidenc
pporng theeed to
exerci that auoratio
wever,he plicantsn
enronmentacoulta
rertthathe sou Paul,
this gerally
reesentive anaturall
occuing condio andhat
eris neviden that
storal citr ctivaon
r otr nsitactiti
have rested inignifica
imcts to swe. The
findin dnotdentif
plet soilsquirin
cavaon if plicantswn
consulntoes t idenfy
depled soilsi espectlly
aswh edence inhe
cord suorts ersinghe
exvaon ahorityranted
by contion fore send
cditi is Coition.Al
provid and I qteif
excavad mari is be
reved fromheexcation
te, requir pmitsshall
inude cditi th he
erion st comy wit
sectns. 3 da, Dash4,
2, 3,ash, 5 dh,4, 9,
0,nd 3 sh 5 for,
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intes to moveore th
78000. He thcards of
excated matealrom e
si. The pmit equid by
Coiciol has t yet be
issuedecause cant be
grted uil afterappval
t fin detai te pn
anthconditns that st
incorpotento at
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the ondis th were
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wi a lotof f fore on
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yo goi to reve
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kind obuil that.
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procs, I w tryto g
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to Andhere's lot of
testony 23 abo
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perms appantly bn
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frosome othe fos
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are coect. Ding
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compce wh the
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to coned
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all rrect.
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teimony at. So of sod
after u subsuentyour
stimonback I2023That
unded ke mosof the
marial w goingo be
Selma Ron focing on
rinow s gointo be
prominany leftn sior
the ll r in ture
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yorealook at the
numbs the'ren, the
l orr fromthe dge. I
oks li only ound30% f
e althe excated
mateals wi acty be
us on si in thflooll
be nt ith e ost d
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that? The're rect
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whe yoe that'she
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dot mi that at'st what
o. Wve nev been deal
toght. We n't. Iean, t
ent cavati that
have osite righnow we
authored to move
millioyardmaal. Just
chd our cords er the
12 yea that 've in
operion,emov 26,00
s terihow.Hat's
thas muchhow weell
off te. So thew th we
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percenge oteri at
probly wl be med she
probm th lness.Hose I
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cosionhat its in
colict wh the nal r.
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sody p this the fal
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clard evtuallyBut, y
know,
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be.
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poseto legisve
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pa o, 60. Asaff
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folkwhcommenand Mr
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ths you owpeop a
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and do ork th
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on h re, assunghis
his isorct. The are
so queio in hehand
rerdg herp coitio
of vegate mari not
beg alwe wanto ve
mebodype to atnd to
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knowvetati dribreaks
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brkdow ty've esntiay
reach pot. Ts a
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don'breado any
fuher.Oueach pot
whthere nmor
compitn. Thibout
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mit t a whwhole
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ngers leasinos
gasemateris.T
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womeet thfiniti of
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materiets stkped ia
certaiar andheit tes
I dohow lo t pross
take Imay ke year.
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How ngoes itically
ke fors to bakown?
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I d'tave thnumber
my fitips. Ene we
doing thdo he d we d
reew thad we fur it
d be auto 5 yes
that tmateri wld b
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ma. Mist b canpe
mo scically he
erions ote andow
mucherial in tha
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be mored, nilate
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wastfaliti ath te.
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the mpent, santial
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find ctent, bsntia
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t 2023ppve Wtaed
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ba othat ady.
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goough t pcessha
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ent agdaast meAnd
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nd thai d a ncn for
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peit. Pos he cnt
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pontial becau w
di'tolloe quas
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thisi ink e y was
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the prr tes ated up to
th. You kn, l the
chges atappene the
pa. U ow, I'leing
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becausofhe etent,
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meetinhich w tt
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plant memmison
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ked foit tt d I
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of or the coct d
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assu shoul't. But
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u et theuireme t
recethem. Wwanto
contacwi youBui didn
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y kind ronmenl
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ki sure the lds
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co thinkoucanicre.
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coty atty on t rord
t if treas athg
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likeo k stafu've hrd
all the teimy. He u
chgeyourinon you
commdaon to board?
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hearanhing o you snd
by yrecommdaons?
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thevt.
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know, ctainatrs. I
me, weon ow
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the mi permianalso
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wakindf backdoay to
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doesn'ppen aind
anheboard n't ha t
saituati.
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recordi ink e cision
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ifhere ahings atou
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takeook atth in ha
any puyou guould ike
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commenons onn
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paicar ce,he exig
frewk thathave.
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aparwitme min t
is it seen I b they
woed thin tramewo o
the s the y ey'r
cueny wrte That
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that'sthat's probl
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to seeclear olion
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gal olion. Orerthey
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tograpplth. Anth's
is onf em. Ths
onofhem. Commsier
x recoiz. Thk u,
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rtnly haha
convtion. Ate cat
act acva anyhaes.
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liftedn kingthgsore
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mmison Lisa,7. Gh
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sementro sta and
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thatrethe compnsiv
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to y imply a zoni t
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ur land developmcode
is an imentg zoni
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on yr mprensplan in
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we'rlkinabt. Next.
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thin tyou talkbout
th morngankly, his
per e ar y've en
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t whe e things
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planr.O, he calk
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that00 Square ft
converon fro Tt's
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and ideifwaystoe th
meet theel sce
that be nerough
delopentritiand
nsucti tcan be do
throh devepeagreen
thatan donthugh ur
pitarovement.
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in cane sfied at
medevelopm An
spereltryi no put
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ing to ide me
commentaAnd enust
few nus wt real w
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aluatingasoni liev
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s. And iteall
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g a ndings bse t
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findingst we ing
figs, whether
cotent areno
consisteis csit what
ctiocore we alking
out and rtuneland
say thiseion t
stafrert ds do that
es n ass. So lik
addresose in as
presal playes be
iting ththin f 23
years ads th a
reviewour inn ofthe
ndin. Numr,
seio1 pa 5years
anthe afport. It
rougd an stas 13
Thers wothe
opos cngese istent
th acomphee plan?
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ge the fe la u map
ommercia plemt
ture erci zing.
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rezone tmmeralgenera
isn'plting zon
dirior the crcia
re land e tego th
mmeralommeiature
La useaty is prily
map of comial nel
zoningought is cnt
An addiocan nsnt
, as menon, Mr
Coi meiod, ts
callg m a sty.
Coup y ago in ojec
m standiere stening
that. Whou he methg
roninananr
re land cateryuch
as commercindusia
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coisnt. You vetange
. Ari, wto b
coisnt wh future o
futu luse map.The
isti luse pattin
thadjacentas. At a
crit toluate. As
mentd, t Bc is
appredmissione
commciuture Lase
cary in 24. Thhange
alg wi a rueo rezone
mmeraleral is
nsisnth a pattto
depment buqur.
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zoni dicts in thnort
nortofhe subjeite.
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lotionana 5 by o
reing. Aseefor
futurecommci cenr.
Th rort at talked
out d ed tod. T
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pld lot evheren t
countyIt dcult
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ink actulyome y
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and sotherlas inhe
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tryo makre hat es
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velod moreasonable
mann. We he at ts
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or aa.T's 41 reand
devepewithhegth.
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woulwaor commel
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evte e cacie
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meody, corre es
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DistctThe commry I
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alrey en dcu and
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wihe ppod chge
zoni a useversy
fluence.You jupproved
d allyctlly foc
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afport we'alki
out. 43 alledu
justid haallod
the me43 us was
a cocial gen arean
in theirtheiar. Th's
not trimta The's
thininhat mmal
nel tt
feeateninglaltering
or wldse any ase
innce condns t
le. In aion,he's
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foane adac the
stet a nsome oth
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doesotate a trc
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deloent zoning
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th andildress th
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re danand tublic
safetyvicecoerci s
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ort thosblicsa
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prsionopns that
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ur publifetyJon,
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informa I I thinth
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the zong, u d have a
variy ses thatl go
in treWe dnove.
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planr for the
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whe'reoong is
thpred zoninstri
consisteith e opt
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is.S e prerlocated
with trban rvarea?
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fatiesrerovid he
teaterseroadways
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things tharpring
that ave acd a tt
bit aositn othe th
cg Zinrnt storoahas
over5,000 vees pain
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cento e si e
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statenevaltemaximum
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once t applicawork
win entyo acly
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at tt me. 'rg to
anyze access w gon
a more dled studu
ju y havealuate t
ve bly and ry
gelly en y'vt a 40
reite d you n'ow
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eser hees in th
futu. Ason mened,
yogs arwe are of the
gdc gathat t he
ong. 41ate ut7..
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the excen ofikSandll
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gog bei sorned in
the l parceld an
ng to ma go I We
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e any deenci tt ar
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will dress thhrou a
fety staint tough
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ow it's taing pa
fees f sfic capa,
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improvts. Devepe
reemt.I liJason's
readhaready mened
th, u kn, y's
desis e teou
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opriate. Kno f
is f tfuture luse
deation.
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causitms almoske a
erent sestanrd
weresefor gen at
we'r're edor. Is
tentl isject. Ag
you owthe going
ha ta courncy
reviatheime eye
inittheite plan.
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viewThs anothete
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guys hmentne
previousyou
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ve wsear. Ry
knoweablinthis and
we wo withiin t
. Ansothey
identify tential
ficicihat mighexist
om furvelopmen the
. Ain, Jason Gr
7t the cocialee
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neediss thopunity,
thint now make the
ni constwith the
undeyiland use ense
at is pce u kn,
ks the the ican
bringings forward
ret yoha commci
parc avaiblr all of
e residel deloents
ate been aved e
areameanaswe mentd
evly, it, know
le years witthcom
Pl Ament. Ou nohis
tebout 8 miles a
shng cente CapCol
of Pinnd. RoadIt'
ab8 s from t
mmerciallavether
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we vd or Jonloopnd
and us. 41 tis is is
thmome ime to acd
kesuhat we
prve this el f
commercievelme becse
you owdentl nd
non-resiial tectio
is ge oorty for
ortrips. Swantto
t n Wrap-u onlgo
about 3 nus. Sthyou
ryuch r but abl
any ess. Anyou,
n. That gs dwa to
thinbbieobt, wth
tiress witus's a bi
si willWel. They
rkedit where tTi
and I catnkhem ou
for rks. Tk uple
mohs, t ausee' got
a o doi wi p up and
justayclosiny
ofonal opi is in
to plnehat over
dedeof eiencha
is zoning csistt
reheivplann
la delopnte. It is
the plting zoni
strict. Constt wi
own systpprod
withhas arous. K
noon areourten you
mmercialand ink
issioneralsoois
out t the'a lo of
mmeraleage alohis
quarr,pecicabecause
e stm ter.O only
arwe n addew, 've
reduand stome re
overtiAlso witth
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y estis happy to
answ ju fhe rd,
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mmted homment,
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atny qst for the
applanay. 'ring
to mon tpuic iut
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