[0:07] Commission meeting starts now.
[0:08] >> Comm. Tiseo: Good morning,
[0:08] ladies and gentlemen. Welcome
[0:09] to the Charlotte County Board
[0:10] of County commissioners,
[0:12] regular and land use meeting
[0:13] for Tuesday, JULY 28th 2026.
[0:15] Let the record show. All
[0:16] commissioners are present. We
[0:18] also have the clerk court MR.
[0:19] Roger Eaton joining us on the
[0:23] Dias today. If you wish please
[0:23] rise for the indication given
[0:26] by Reverend Larry, of our
[0:27] Saverin Savior Lutheran Church
[0:33] followed by the pledge.
[0:37] >> What did last? Land with
[0:41] many things. But we also are a
[0:45] chaotic people. Thank you for
[0:46] bringing together people such
[0:51] as those before me who debate
[0:51] and think and work and make it
[0:52] safe advantageous for our
[0:55] lives. Where's they continue
[0:56] to bless the board and its
[0:57] work? For those who support
[1:01] them. For all those here today
[1:01] who are interested and
[1:02] concerned about what goes on
[1:05] here in our county. Our state,
[1:09] our country, and our world.
[1:10] We're in the middle of
[1:10] hurricane season. So far
[1:12] nothing has happened and we
[1:13] ask that you continue that
[1:14] blessing for us. You keep
[1:17] those were safe. Those were
[1:21] hurricane path. Help us to
[1:24] help those who need it. And
[1:25] help us to accept assistance.
[1:28] When we did ourselves. But as
[1:31] you blast these people. All
[1:33] those here at all, those in
[1:34] his county across the world to
[1:37] call upon you. Let them all
[1:40] feel your love and you're
[1:43] compassion and your closeness.
[1:43] Help us. Remember that we are
[1:48] never alone. And nothing, not
[1:49] dungeons, not powers on
[1:50] angels. A principality is
[1:52] nothing can separate us long
[1:54] gone and crisis whole to that
[1:55] here in the power of Christ.
[2:04] We stand.
[2:06] >> pledge allegiance to the
[2:07] United States of America and
[2:11] to public for it stands.
[2:12] Nation under indivisible, with
[2:16] liberty and justice for all.
[2:19] >> you're ever in your order.
[2:20] MR. Flores, you just to the
[2:25] agenda. Thank you, MR. Chair
[2:26] commissioners of head and read
[2:31] through the change memo. First
[2:31] we have edition number one.
[2:33] And that was item as head of
[2:34] the public here setting the
[2:34] public hearing regarding
[2:40] county right away. Change
[2:40] number 1, 2 s 2 added
[2:41] attachment to the metro
[2:43] forecasting item. Change
[2:48] number 2 to Essex added
[2:48] attachment and also updated
[2:49] the language to that item
[2:52] related to the animal Welfare
[2:56] League. And then. Change
[2:56] number 3 to 7. We tax
[3:01] resolution for that item. Same
[3:02] for change number 40 vb to
[3:05] attach the resolution and
[3:06] change. Number 5 was 2 d 2
[3:10] updated the language regarding
[3:13] the location for host holding
[3:14] the upcoming budget meetings
[3:15] SEPTEMBER at the event center
[3:16] and then adjusting the dates
[3:21] as well too. Change number 6,
[3:22] Hugh, to added the attachment.
[3:23] That's the Peace River Water
[3:24] Authority, the upcoming agenda
[3:27] for discussion. And then
[3:30] change number 7 is to items h
[3:30] one. And that is attached but
[3:32] also for the upcoming wca and
[3:36] agenda. Thank you, MR.
[3:37] CHAIRMAN changes so that when
[3:38] my second change is, is there
[3:42] any further discussion? Is
[3:42] there any opposition to the
[3:43] motion that passes unanimously
[3:45] changing, MR. Move
[3:46] Proclamation. So motion
[3:46] seconded proclamations. Is
[3:47] there any further discussion?
[3:51] There any opposition to the
[3:52] motion that passes unanimously
[3:52] and commission? And already
[3:54] you have the honor, sir, that
[3:55] will be followed by employee
[3:57] recognition.
[4:04] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, good
[4:05] morning, everyone. Good
[4:09] morning, Morning.
[4:10] >> Comm. Doherty: 2
[4:11] proclamations this morning,
[4:11] the first of the 75th
[4:12] anniversary of the p#
[4:12] #
[4:12] #
[4:12] #
[4:12] Gorda
[4:16] Boat Club. On AUGUST 31st.
[4:17] 1951 the p#
[4:17] #
[4:17] #
[4:17] #
[4:18] Gorda Boak Love
[4:21] was officially organized and
[4:21] now celebrates 75 years of
[4:22] voting history for the
[4:25] community. In JULY of 1951.
[4:28] Chamber PRESIDENT John Rose
[4:29] actively pursued and promoted
[4:32] water oriented tourism in our
[4:35] predominantly fish. In Carroll
[4:35] County, in the p#
[4:35] #
[4:35] #
[4:35] #
[4:36] Gorda
[4:39] Boat Club held the first
[4:39] locally sanctioned American
[4:40] Power Boat Association Regatta
[4:46] in 1952, that included 9,000
[4:47] spectators probably close to
[4:47] entire population of the
[4:50] county that for that. The
[4:51] p#
[4:51] #
[4:51] #
[4:51] #
[4:51] Gorda Boat Club
[4:54] Foundation provides charitable
[4:55] contributions to Gulf Shores,
[4:57] sailing School Community
[4:57] Resource Network in Crossroads
[5:01] Academy. The Charlotte,
[5:02] Charlotte County wishes to
[5:03] recognize the former than
[5:06] lasting history of voting in
[5:06] our community created by the
[5:07] p#
[5:07] #
[5:07] #
[5:07] #
[5:07] Gorda Boat Club in
[5:10] expresses profound gratitude
[5:12] for 75 years of service that
[5:13] is enrich the lives of our
[5:14] residents and continually
[5:17] strengthens the foundation of
[5:18] our community now, therefore,
[5:19] be it proclaimed that AUGUST
[5:21] 31st. 2026 shall be designated
[5:23] and observed in Charlotte
[5:24] County as the 75th anniversary
[5:25] of p#
[5:25] #
[5:25] #
[5:25] #
[5:28] Gorda. Both club and
[5:30] accepting Commodore sue in
[5:47] Fambro. And Carol Bird.
[5:50] >> good.
[6:12] >> Comm. Doherty: ok, the
[6:14] second proclamation this
[6:14] morning, the Florida water
[6:18] Professionals Month. The
[6:18] Florida water and pollution
[6:22] control operators Association
[6:22] is a nonprofit trade
[6:25] organization that promotes
[6:25] sustainability of Florida's
[6:26] water utility industry.
[6:28] Through workforce development
[6:29] to protect the health of
[6:30] Florida citizens improve and
[6:33] to preserve the state's water
[6:35] resources. This organization
[6:36] offers water, distribution,
[6:37] water and wastewater treatment
[6:38] plant operator training
[6:40] courses required for that
[6:44] state of Florida's operator
[6:44] licenses, voluntary
[6:45] certification programs and
[6:48] continuing education programs
[6:49] for operator license Renewal
[6:50] and this organization and
[6:53] recognizing the importance of
[6:54] the Florida statutes and
[6:55] administrative code that
[6:57] regulate the water industry
[6:58] acts as a liaison between the
[7:00] Florida Department of
[7:02] Environmental Protection and
[7:04] Industry personnel. Water
[7:06] professionals are often
[7:07] emergency responders during
[7:08] storms and other catastrophic
[7:11] events working to ensure safe
[7:12] drinking water and safe
[7:15] disposal of wastewater for our
[7:16] communities. The Florida water
[7:17] pollution control Operators
[7:18] Association recognizes all
[7:20] those who have played a
[7:22] significant part in operating
[7:24] and maintaining drinking
[7:24] water, wastewater and storm
[7:27] water systems in Florida by
[7:29] celebrating Florida Water
[7:30] professionals Month applauds
[7:31] their constant efforts to
[7:33] protect our health and
[7:34] environment. Now, therefore,
[7:35] be it proclaimed that the
[7:37] month of AUGUST 2026. Shelby
[7:40] designated observed in
[7:41] Charlotte County as Florida
[7:43] Water Professionals Month and
[7:43] all citizens are encouraged to
[7:47] join us in thanking all water
[7:48] and waste water professionals
[7:49] for their hard work and
[7:50] dedication to preserving
[7:51] Florida's water resources.
[7:55] Excepting. There's bunch of
[7:58] ccu Jeremy Frost can stacker
[8:01] Kenny Hall. Ross Lynch, Tony
[8:04] Smith. Smith Bill Felder and
[8:19] Mike Clauser.
[8:36] All right.
[8:37] Commissioners, we have a full
[8:41] room which is always good to
[8:42] see.
[8:42] >> As far as because we I know
[8:43] we've got a lot of recognition
[8:44] Tee up the next 3 items and
[8:45] then get out of the way. So
[8:47] first, we're going to
[8:49] recognize all of our teammates
[8:50] said hit their miles of
[8:51] milestones of years of service
[8:54] in JUNE 2026. And then we
[8:56] recognize or investor program
[8:59] participants for the spring
[9:00] 2026 class and then also
[9:01] finish up with employee of the
[9:04] month for JUNE of 2026. So I
[9:06] think Abby from People ops,
[9:06] Melissa, from Pe the
[9:20] honors. So thank you.
[9:23] >> Today. We're proud to
[9:24] recognize and celebrate the
[9:25] dedicated employees who have
[9:25] reached important years of
[9:29] service milestones. Their
[9:31] commitment, professionalism
[9:32] and contributions have helped
[9:34] strengthen our organization
[9:35] and improve the services we
[9:36] provide to our community.
[9:40] Thank you for your hard work
[9:40] loyalty and the positive
[9:43] impact you make every day.
[9:44] Please join me in
[9:45] congratulating and honoring
[9:46] these outstanding employees
[9:49] for the years of service. To
[9:52] start with 5 years. Alex?
[10:02] Howard utilities. Carl Walker
[10:11] junior public safety. Colby,
[10:18] Ms oni, public safety. Shaun
[10:26] Hunt facilities, management.
[10:34] Joshua, Hough Public Safety.
[10:34] Michelle Fitzgerald, people
[10:42] operations. Tara Blacks and
[10:50] Human Services. Frank, pale of
[10:59] public safety. And with 20
[11:00] years, Jamie Scare a community
[11:08] services. And those not
[11:10] attending but reach their 5
[11:14] years are greedy Peterson from
[11:14] utilities. Stacey in McDonald
[11:17] from Budget and Administrative
[11:20] Services. Thomas Tucker,
[11:22] public safety, David Williams
[11:26] public works. Paige Community
[11:27] development with 10 years.
[11:30] Jacob Gibbs from Public works
[11:33] with 15 years. James Wood from
[11:34] utilities and with 35 years,
[11:34] sue McKean from utilities.
[11:48] Thank you.
[11:59] I suddenly the people
[11:59] operations.
[12:00] >> Today we're recognizing our
[12:02] 22nd employee ambassador
[12:03] program. Graduates, the
[12:04] employee ambassador program
[12:06] was started in 2011 because of
[12:06] employers sponsors, Truck,
[12:10] Strategic Area of Focus Survey
[12:10] feedback received from
[12:11] employees indicated their
[12:12] commitment to quality work and
[12:13] to being a good team player.
[12:15] This program was developed to
[12:18] improve communications across
[12:19] departments increase employee
[12:21] knowledge of the organization,
[12:24] Foster team spirit and enhance
[12:25] customer service. Ambassadors
[12:26] are better prepared to answer
[12:26] questions from Citizens,
[12:29] colleagues and neighbors.
[12:30] They're well informed of the
[12:31] county's programs and services
[12:33] and can respond to inquiries.
[12:34] They have a reinforced sense
[12:35] of team spirit and a
[12:36] commitment to providing
[12:37] quality services to all
[12:40] customers and colleagues with
[12:41] today's cost. Over 500
[12:42] employees have completed the
[12:43] program and have gained a
[12:45] better understanding of the
[12:46] county's department and
[12:47] overall organization which
[12:48] benefits customers, the
[12:51] organization and the public.
[12:52] Congratulations to the 20nd
[12:54] class of the employee
[12:54] Ambassador program. Brianna,
[13:01] Beaty from public safety. Lisa
[13:08] Blount from fiscal. Buchanan
[13:15] Ministration. Caitlin Quasi
[13:22] community Services.
[13:28] >> Trevor Cole facilities.
[13:28] Jessica Aaron Hart Public
[13:36] Works. Sarah, what it Human
[13:42] Services. Katie Jackson,
[13:48] public works. Jose. Laura
[13:55] Flores, is it. Thomas Mathias,
[14:02] Community Services. Ricardo,
[14:10] Canada, Emergency Management.
[14:17] John per community services.
[14:17] Brianna. Pfizer, Joseph
[14:22] Utilities. Jordan, right,
[14:27] economic development.
[14:33] Robinson, fiscal. Robinson
[14:39] Community Services. Grace
[14:44] Night or Public Works. I'm
[14:59] Alissa Walker Administration.
[15:41] >> Very good morning
[15:44] commissioners. Good morning,
[15:45] Kevin Magel senior it division
[15:50] manager and I'm here to one of
[15:51] our employees Donovan night as
[15:52] the employee of the month for
[15:56] JUNE of 2026. Generally are it
[15:57] employees tend to shun the
[15:58] limelight. They kind of like
[16:02] to do their things behind the
[16:03] scene. But sometimes folks put
[16:04] forth that effort that you
[16:08] just can't let them let them
[16:08] hide. Right. And this is one
[16:09] of those instances. Take great
[16:12] pleasure reading this for
[16:13] Donovan Donovan night has
[16:15] demonstrated Charlotte County
[16:16] is core values throughout the
[16:18] implementation of a complex
[16:21] computer aided dispatch system
[16:21] transition impacting public
[16:25] safety. And Charlotte County
[16:26] Sheriff's Office from the
[16:27] beginning of the project, he
[16:27] embraced the opportunity to
[16:28] become the primary support
[16:30] liaison between agencies
[16:33] quickly learning the system,
[16:34] understanding fire, ems
[16:36] operations and building strong
[16:36] relationships with frontline
[16:40] personnel in leadership.
[16:40] Donovan consistently
[16:41] exemplifies customer service
[16:42] in partnership by actively
[16:45] listening to fire ems staff,
[16:49] gathering feedback and
[16:50] operational requirements and
[16:51] ensuring their concerns and
[16:52] recommendations were
[16:52] communicated to the sheriff's
[16:55] office which manages the
[16:55] application he serves as a
[16:58] primary advocate for public
[16:58] safety. Bridging that gap
[17:00] between agencies to ensure
[17:01] technology solutions meet
[17:04] operational needs. Donovan's
[17:05] dedication to this project is
[17:06] going far beyond the
[17:09] expectations of his role. He's
[17:09] invested significant time
[17:10] outside normal business hours,
[17:13] including nights and weekends
[17:14] to provide support during
[17:16] critical phases of the
[17:18] implementation rather than
[17:19] asking first responders to
[17:20] work around his schedule. He
[17:23] has met them on theirs, often
[17:23] traveling to apparatus,
[17:24] locations throughout the
[17:27] county to troubleshoot issues,
[17:27] the ploy updates and ensure
[17:30] critical systems remain
[17:31] operational. His willingness
[17:32] to immerse himself in public
[17:35] safety operations. Learn
[17:37] unfamiliar technologies and
[17:38] advocate for his customers has
[17:39] been instrumental in
[17:40] maintaining momentum
[17:43] throughout the implementation.
[17:44] Donovan demonstrates a strong
[17:45] commitment to public service
[17:46] by consistently putting the
[17:48] needs of its customers. First,
[17:49] his technical expertise,
[17:52] responsiveness and unwavering
[17:53] commitment to supporting
[17:54] public safety have a direct
[17:56] impact on the county's ability
[17:58] to provide critical emergency
[18:00] services by collaborating
[18:02] across agencies addressing
[18:03] issues in the field and
[18:06] remaining engaged throughout
[18:06] the project. He has made a
[18:07] meaningful contribution to
[18:22] this implementation.
[18:32] >> And
[19:13] >> Comm. Tiseo: next, we have
[19:14] the Florida Economic
[19:14] Development Council,
[19:15] Innovation and Marketing
[19:19] Award.
[19:19] >> Good Morning. Commissioners
[19:21] k Tracy Pfister economic
[19:22] development director today. I
[19:27] am proud to share that the
[19:28] Charlotte County Economic
[19:28] Development Office has
[19:32] received a statewide award
[19:32] from the Florida Economic
[19:35] Development Council for our
[19:36] Permanent Change of Station
[19:40] Workforce Attraction, campaign
[19:41] part of a broader careers on
[19:44] the coast initiative. This
[19:45] campaign was designed to
[19:48] attract skilled workers,
[19:49] military families and
[19:50] transitioning service members
[19:52] to Charlotte County by
[19:54] connecting meaningful career
[19:55] opportunities with exceptional
[20:00] quality of life. Our community
[20:01] offers. We know that veterans
[20:03] and former service members
[20:04] bring leadership discipline,
[20:07] teamwork and dedication. 10
[20:09] employees value highly I'm
[20:13] sorry. Employers value highly
[20:15] and who wouldn't? Who wouldn't
[20:17] want to hire someone who has
[20:17] proudly worn a uniform of our
[20:22] country. And who wouldn't want
[20:23] to live in in play in a
[20:27] purple. Her community that
[20:28] honors in admirers are
[20:30] veterans and military
[20:33] families. Charlotte County
[20:34] proudly recognizes the
[20:36] sacrifices made by those who
[20:39] have served and we remain
[20:42] committed to creating a
[20:43] welcoming community where we
[20:44] can all thrive and continue to
[20:48] to live and work. Through
[20:49] targeted digital advertising.
[20:53] G offense scene around
[20:54] military installations,
[20:55] relocating relocation,
[20:58] messaging and workforce
[21:01] focused storytelling. The
[21:03] campaign generated more than a
[21:04] million targeted impressions
[21:08] nationwide. And more than 6
[21:10] 1000 visit visits to workforce
[21:11] attraction and relocation
[21:13] resources that we've provided.
[21:16] A major focus of this campaign
[21:18] is reaching military connected
[21:21] or dances and position in
[21:21] Charlotte County as a place
[21:23] where service members and
[21:26] their families can
[21:27] successfully transition into
[21:28] civilian careers, raise their
[21:32] families and build long term.
[21:34] Futures. This award,
[21:35] especially is meaningful
[21:38] because it recognizes economic
[21:39] development marketing that
[21:41] directly supports workforce
[21:42] growth, a long-term community
[21:45] competitiveness. Workforce
[21:46] availability remains one of
[21:50] the top factors that concern
[21:52] companies in our community to
[21:53] provide quality goods and
[21:55] services to our residents.
[21:58] Initiatives like careers of
[21:58] the coast continue to
[22:00] strengthen Charlotte County's
[22:01] reputation as a workforce
[22:03] ready and veteran friendly
[22:05] community. Additionally, I
[22:06] would like to recognize or
[22:07] talented marketing manager
[22:09] Maria Vessel Sorella who is
[22:13] not here today, but for her
[22:15] hard work, creativity and
[22:17] dedication in leading this
[22:18] campaign, her efforts to help
[22:19] position Charlotte County
[22:21] among our peers across the
[22:23] state of Florida and earned
[22:26] this distinguished statewide
[22:27] recognition. We are grateful
[22:28] for her and the rest of the
[22:32] economic development team. For
[22:34] their commitment to promoting
[22:35] our community and telling the
[22:36] story of why Charlotte County
[22:39] is special. So special to live
[22:40] and work. I'd also like to
[22:44] thank the board for your
[22:45] continued support for economic
[22:46] development and workforce
[22:49] initiatives along with our
[22:51] community partners, schools,
[22:53] employers and county staff who
[22:55] helped make this campaign
[22:57] possible. We are honored and
[22:59] blessed to receive this
[23:00] statewide recognition and
[23:00] proud to continue promoting
[23:02] Charlotte County as a place
[23:05] where careers opportunities,
[23:06] patriotism and quality of life
[23:12] come together. Thank you. Do
[23:13] you want to take a picture?
[23:21] Should be. We want to Ward,
[23:24] you serve.
[24:08] Okay. Next. We have excellence
[24:10] in Business award and
[24:13] commissioners today. I'd like
[24:16] to introduce Christie sisler.
[24:16] She is our business
[24:17] recruitment manager and she's
[24:22] going to be doing this next
[24:25] For the record Christie's
[24:27] sessler economic development
[24:32] morning Commissioners, ladies
[24:32] and gentleman.
[24:33] >> On behalf of the Charlotte
[24:34] County Economic Development
[24:34] Office. It is my honor to
[24:37] present the excellence in
[24:37] Business Award. This
[24:38] recognition is reserved for
[24:39] businesses that demonstrate
[24:41] leadership, strengthen our
[24:42] local economy and meaningful
[24:43] commitment to the community.
[24:45] They serve. Today we are proud
[24:49] to recognize Buffalo graphics.
[24:50] Founded in 1988 Buffalo
[24:51] graphics has been a part of
[24:52] Charlotte County's business
[24:55] community for more than 35
[24:56] years. What began as a
[24:56] family-owned company has grown
[24:59] into a second generation local
[25:00] business now led by Jordan, a
[25:01] quote, who serves as the owner
[25:05] and PRESIDENT. Under Jordan's
[25:06] leadership. Buffalo graphics
[25:07] has continued to grow,
[25:08] modernize and serve as a
[25:10] trusted, creative and
[25:11] production partner for
[25:14] businesses, nonprofits, public
[25:14] sector organizations, health
[25:17] care providers, financial
[25:17] institutions and community
[25:18] partners throughout Charlotte
[25:22] County in southwest Florida.
[25:24] Buffalo graphics is more than
[25:25] a pretty company. It is a full
[25:26] service operation offering
[25:29] printing graphic design,
[25:30] mailing signs and wraps and
[25:30] greater ease screen printing
[25:32] dye sublimation promotional
[25:35] products and branded online
[25:36] storefronts. That range of
[25:38] services allows local
[25:39] organizations to keep more of
[25:40] their marketing branding and
[25:41] communications work right here
[25:44] in Charlotte County. The
[25:45] company has also continue to
[25:49] invest in its future. From
[25:50] 2023 2025 Buffalo Graphics
[25:51] reported revenue growth of
[25:55] approximately 26.5% with 2025.
[25:56] Marking the strongest year in
[25:59] the company's history. During
[26:00] that same time, the company
[26:00] continue to reinvest in
[26:04] equipment, facility
[26:05] improvements, software,
[26:06] workflow systems and modern
[26:06] tools that help improve
[26:07] communication and customer
[26:11] service. But what really sets
[26:12] Buffalo graphics apart is the
[26:13] way the company pairs business
[26:13] success with community
[26:17] responsibility. Over the past
[26:19] 3 years, Buffalo Graphics has
[26:22] contributed more than $47,000
[26:22] in combine committee
[26:24] investment through direct
[26:27] donations, donated print
[26:28] services and just discounted
[26:28] services for local nonprofit
[26:32] organizations. In 2025 alone,
[26:34] the company provided more than
[26:35] $22,000 in combined giving.
[26:37] Including donated and
[26:39] discounted Prince Services to
[26:43] 28 local nonprofits. Those
[26:44] organizations include the
[26:45] Charlotte County Community
[26:45] Foundation. The Animal Welfare
[26:49] League. Archway Institute for
[26:50] Mental Health Kiwanis
[26:51] Foundation of Charlotte County
[26:55] and many others. Buffalo
[26:56] graphics has also supported
[26:57] major local events, including
[26:59] the Art Institute, Golf and
[27:00] Tennis fundraiser the Gulf
[27:01] Coast Partnership Art Show in
[27:04] Kiwanis Foundation Golf
[27:04] tournaments through support,
[27:05] Buffalo graphics helps local
[27:07] nonprofits promote events,
[27:09] race funds and share their
[27:10] missions and reach the people
[27:14] who need them. Most. Jordan's
[27:14] commitment to the community
[27:15] also extends beyond the
[27:19] business itself. He serves as
[27:19] the PRESIDENT Of the Charlotte
[27:22] County Jazz Society helping
[27:23] preserve and promote live jazz
[27:25] music in our community. While
[27:27] supporting music, scholarships
[27:28] for students across the last 2
[27:33] seasons concert proceeds
[27:34] helped fined $25,000 in
[27:36] scholarships for 9 local high
[27:36] school students pursuing
[27:39] advanced music education.
[27:40] Buffalo graphics also invest
[27:44] in people. The company has
[27:45] built a strong team culture,
[27:45] including long-serving
[27:47] employees and returning team
[27:49] members who've come back into
[27:49] key roles in sales and
[27:53] operations. The company is
[27:53] also an active partner in
[27:54] Charlotte, Technical Colleges.
[27:58] Design program. For multiple
[27:59] years. Both Buffalo Graphics
[27:59] has hosted students for
[28:01] production floor tours once or
[28:05] twice each school year. Giving
[28:05] them a firsthand look at
[28:08] creative careers in action.
[28:09] The company has also hired
[28:09] program graduates into
[28:11] full-time creative roles,
[28:14] including its current art
[28:14] director, helping build
[28:15] Charlotte County's local
[28:18] design talent pipeline. This
[28:19] is the kind of business
[28:20] excellence we are proud to
[28:24] recognize in Charlotte County.
[28:25] Buffalo graphics has grown
[28:26] responsibly invested in its
[28:28] team and supported local
[28:30] students helps nonprofits, 6
[28:31] seed and continues to
[28:32] modernize while remaining
[28:33] deeply connected to the
[28:35] community. It serves. For its
[28:37] leadership business growth.
[28:38] Innovation community
[28:39] investment and lasting
[28:41] commitment to Charlotte
[28:43] County. The Charlotte County
[28:44] Economic Development Office is
[28:45] proud to present the
[28:45] excellence in Business Award
[28:49] to Buffalo graphics. At this
[28:50] time, I'd like invite Jordan a
[28:50] call to come forward and
[28:54] accept the award.
[28:55] Congratulations to Jordan and
[28:56] the entire Buffalo graphics
[29:06] team on
[29:06] >> And after photo, you'd like
[29:11] to say a few words.
[29:13] >> And MR. Chair is going
[29:17] before Jordan comes I recently
[29:18] got to meet him and he is not
[29:20] going to be participating in
[29:23] comedy for cause this year.
[29:24] Got another recruit. You get
[29:25] to see over at the to support.
[29:27] It's gonna be great.
[29:46] >> Thank you. I'm very
[29:48] grateful for the economic
[29:49] development for this
[29:49] recognition. And I'll be
[29:51] honest. I don't love being up
[29:51] here because that's that's the
[29:52] word doesn't really belong to
[29:57] me. It belongs to my team and
[29:58] my family started this
[30:01] business and grow this
[30:02] business. And I'm very
[30:03] thankful for all the
[30:04] opportunities we've had this
[30:13] county. Thank Thank you, sir.
[30:14] >> Comm. Tiseo: Well, if
[30:15] you're a little nervous coming
[30:15] up to the mic, wait till
[30:16] comedy for cause, you'll have
[30:17] you have hundreds of people
[30:18] were going to cure that
[30:22] heckling. Hear case. All
[30:23] right, gentlemen, we're gonna
[30:24] move on to public input,
[30:25] agenda items, only anybody
[30:26] wishing to address the board
[30:26] during this portion of the
[30:29] meeting must fill out a card
[30:30] state. Their name for the
[30:31] record state, which agenda
[30:32] item or items will be
[30:33] addressed. Remarkable, limited
[30:36] to 3 minutes and Shelby
[30:37] address to the commission as a
[30:39] body and not individual
[30:40] members. I have my cards here.
[30:42] If you haven't filled out a
[30:42] card there to my right over
[30:44] there at the table. When
[30:49] Matthews. Regarding the tdc
[30:52] appointment.
[30:56] >> Good morning, CHAIRMAN To
[30:57] commissioners, it's a pleasure
[30:58] to be here this morning and I
[30:59] thank you for the opportunity
[31:00] to introduce myself to you,
[31:02] although you all know me. I
[31:03] have applied for the tdc
[31:06] appointment and I with like to
[31:09] just share a little bit about
[31:10] my background. I bring 3
[31:11] decades of experience in the
[31:15] hospitality and tour and
[31:15] travel business. And I was a
[31:16] small business owner in
[31:16] upstate New York with my
[31:18] husband. When we lived there,
[31:19] I believe that all of my
[31:21] credentials could greatly
[31:22] benefit the tdc. And I would
[31:23] really like to ask for your
[31:26] vote. Thank you. Thank you.
[31:30] Next they have Sean Wilson.
[31:31] >> Comm. Tiseo: On item
[31:31] regular agenda. S 3, the
[31:38] Award.
[31:38] >> Good morning. Members of
[31:39] the county commission and
[31:40] staff and citizens of
[31:42] Charlotte County. My name is
[31:42] Shawn Wilson. The PRESIDENT Of
[31:46] Blue Sky Communities.
[31:47] >> Comm. Tiseo: With offices
[31:49] at one 80 Fountain Parkway
[31:50] North in St. Petersburg. I am
[31:53] here today to ask for your
[31:54] support for the Blue Deep
[31:55] Creek face to affordable
[31:56] housing development, which is
[32:00] coming up, regular agenda item
[32:01] s 3. I want to thank the this
[32:03] commission and the county for
[32:04] working with Blue Sky in a
[32:07] spirit of partnership and
[32:08] cooperation forward 9 years.
[32:09] We first proposed are
[32:10] jacaranda place development
[32:14] all the way back in 2017. And
[32:15] I'm proud to say that that we
[32:16] did get that built
[32:16] successfully with help from
[32:20] the county and the state we
[32:24] also were able to successfully
[32:25] get funding for a blue Deep
[32:28] Creek phase one on Luther Road
[32:29] through the same process that
[32:30] we're requesting today. The
[32:34] funding and then we we came
[32:36] through and and and we won the
[32:36] funding at the state with that
[32:39] with that commitment from you
[32:40] all, I think we've been good
[32:41] partners. We've always done
[32:43] what we said. We're going to
[32:46] do. We try to keep drama to a
[32:47] minimum. And most importantly,
[32:48] we've have been providing
[32:49] housing for some of the
[32:51] hardest working people in
[32:53] Charlotte County, including a
[32:54] lot of folks with special
[32:55] needs over there at the
[32:57] Jacaranda Place. Property.
[33:00] Blue skies made a lot of
[33:02] commitments to this
[33:03] development over the past 12
[33:05] months. And not only do we own
[33:06] the land already a blue Deep
[33:09] Creek phase. 2. So there's no
[33:10] contract with the seller.
[33:11] There's no crazy extensions.
[33:14] We own the land. But we also
[33:15] came through your regular
[33:17] zoning process. We went from a
[33:21] 10 units per acre zoning to a
[33:24] 15 units per acre zoning. And
[33:24] you fact to approve this
[33:25] development in a manner of
[33:27] speaking when you approved the
[33:28] zoning back in MARCH and then
[33:31] finally and perhaps most
[33:32] importantly, we took a cue
[33:33] from the state of Florida who
[33:37] said that they want to see
[33:38] these affordable housing
[33:39] developments be more permit
[33:39] ready before they apply for
[33:43] funding. We're doing that. The
[33:44] architecture and engineering
[33:44] is done. We're about halfway
[33:46] through the permitting. So
[33:47] when we win this funding, we
[33:49] will be ready to go again. No
[33:53] drama, no bumping up against
[33:54] closing deadlines will be will
[33:55] be complete permitting in
[33:57] DECEMBER, which is right
[33:58] around the time that the state
[34:01] is going to make its final
[34:02] awards. So you can count on us
[34:03] to get this thing in the
[34:05] ground quickly.
[34:10] >> And I a
[34:10] >> all the hard work. I think
[34:11] that we've done over the past
[34:12] years in the past 12 months
[34:13] was really recognize in many
[34:15] ways. Also our commitment to
[34:16] conform to the consolidated
[34:18] plan I think was recognized by
[34:20] the Home Review Committee in
[34:22] their initial ranking. We
[34:23] actually were the
[34:24] highest-scoring applicant. We
[34:25] scored 86. The other
[34:28] applicants scored. 82 and
[34:28] hopefully that result will
[34:29] carry the day today as well.
[34:31] Thank you very much.
[34:32] Commissioners. Thank you, sir.
[34:34] Thank you for your comments,
[34:45] Samuel. Her pinning s 6 awl.
[34:58] >> Good morning commissioners
[34:59] good morning. My name is
[34:59] Samuel Chirping. And I'm here
[35:02] to bring some raw common sense
[35:02] and black letter law to the
[35:03] agenda regarding animal
[35:06] Welfare League contract. I
[35:07] wrote a speech, but I do in
[35:10] the just like you guys know,
[35:12] the Florida of Florida single
[35:15] Audit act requires that we
[35:15] demand an audit of every
[35:20] single 5, 0, 1, 3, c that
[35:21] choose to contract with
[35:24] outside of using our tax
[35:26] dollars. And so because of
[35:27] that, the Florida single audit
[35:29] act demand that we have a line
[35:32] by line item on that audit and
[35:33] so that we can see exactly
[35:35] what's going on. Furthermore,
[35:39] in your own contract from
[35:40] 2013, it also says that you
[35:43] have the ability to demand all
[35:45] of these things that the
[35:48] Florida single Audit act also
[35:49] requires. So 2 different
[35:50] levels, you're saying that you
[35:53] have the right to the law and
[35:54] to the state of Florida in
[35:58] order to require audit. That
[35:59] audit is not only a breakdown
[36:00] of the money of our tax
[36:02] dollars, the people's money.
[36:05] It also is about the animals.
[36:09] In Charlotte County. It says
[36:12] that were only responsible for
[36:13] strays. Those are homeless
[36:15] animals and but cases for 10
[36:17] days yet. They originally awl
[36:21] else for 1.3 million dollars.
[36:24] a jump from $384,000 and no
[36:24] one's going Where is the
[36:30] money?
[36:33] >> Can anybody do some math
[36:33] here? And as how much 1.3
[36:33] million dollars, how many
[36:34] animals that could take care
[36:41] of? So I just adopted animal
[36:43] last night because my beloved
[36:46] animal just passed away and it
[36:47] was $400. I made sure that it
[36:48] didn't have to go to a
[36:49] shelter. It was horribly
[36:50] abused and it got to come to
[36:53] my home last night. So this
[36:58] isn't about the animals are
[36:58] taking it.
[36:59] >> Or not taking care of our
[37:00] animals. This is about the
[37:02] rule of law and what is
[37:04] required not only for the
[37:07] animal welfare league, but for
[37:09] all 5, 0, 1, 3, c's that we
[37:12] require. If you want our tax
[37:12] dollars.
[37:13] >> We would like to know how
[37:15] that money is being spent and
[37:19] how it's being spent. And as
[37:21] business owners as Lynn
[37:23] Matthews pointed out, are
[37:26] alive. What is our return on
[37:28] investment? Are the animals
[37:29] truly being taken care of or
[37:33] where is this money going? We
[37:36] have the rule of law on our
[37:40] side in order to demand the
[37:40] answer to those questions
[37:43] before we move any further. I
[37:44] appreciate your time and GOD
[37:47] bless everyone today. Thank
[37:48] you. Thank you, sir. Thank you
[37:49] for your comments, MR. Tim
[37:52] Richey, our one. I'm sorry.
[37:55] That's one.
[38:24] >> good morning, everybody.
[38:27] >> Are seeded day. We have.
[38:32] Seen up. And it's for Glades
[38:40] County. There's going to be
[38:42] $200,000. Nats provided by the
[38:51] epa. And then we've got This
[38:55] little graph here for the
[38:56] Glades signed by Shannon seen
[39:01] out. Then we've got this inter
[39:02] local agreement with the
[39:07] Manatee County and Cena. Last
[39:08] time. Any of you been him on
[39:10] the Peace River? Yeah. Look
[39:17] closely. Commissioner to Axe.
[39:17] You know, we're in phase 3
[39:22] water shortage per swiftmud.
[39:23] You know what's going on up
[39:24] the Peace River and the Myakka
[39:31] River. I'll tell you why.
[39:32] Mosaic fertilizer phosphate
[39:38] mining slash Mikel company.
[39:39] >> All are harbored. I want
[39:40] you all to know this because I
[39:44] was on Radio Saint Pete
[39:45] Saturday and I let him know.
[39:46] Do you know much environmental
[39:46] damage? Mosaic has done to our
[39:52] harbor in our river? Take a
[39:53] wild guess. They got hit with
[39:55] a 1.8 billion dollar
[39:56] environmental find. And 26
[40:02] 2015. I asked him it from
[40:02] Tampa Bay to Charlotte Harbor
[40:06] in the ala fire.
[40:06] >> The little manatee, the
[40:10] manatee Miac in peace.
[40:11] >> I bet you Commissioner
[40:15] Dority. We're pushing 500 to
[40:15] 750.
[40:16] >> Billion dollars in
[40:20] environmental damage. And what
[40:27] have we gotten from Ciena?
[40:28] What have we gotten from any
[40:29] 501 c that we give money to?
[40:30] Tell you what a big fat 0,
[40:34] everybody. How much money will
[40:35] it cost to dredge the Peace
[40:42] River from Lake Hancock? Past
[40:42] party through DeSoto to
[40:43] Charlotte County to the end of
[40:47] our harbor. And what are we
[40:48] going to do with that? 12 to
[40:55] 15 feet of muck. Each one of
[40:56] the rivers I mentioned need
[41:02] that. Have any of you reading
[41:05] the letter to Governor Mosaic
[41:07] say we want to investigate
[41:09] these wastewater facilities in
[41:10] reverse osmosis that MISTER
[41:12] Tim Ritchie are citizen water
[41:12] czar.
[41:16] >> Hasn't told Senator
[41:16] Albritton has told the Peace
[41:17] River Water Authority in all
[41:20] of you. I want to see a letter
[41:21] written by the next meeting
[41:22] from one of you. Thank you,
[41:24] sir. Thank Men's.
[41:25] >> Just for the record that
[41:29] was item r-one. There are
[41:30] local agreement between
[41:30] Charlotte County on behalf of
[41:32] the coastal in Hartland
[41:33] National Estuary Partnership
[41:36] in Manatee County. Not s one.
[41:37] >> Thank you. Commissioner
[41:38] covers water, whole enchilada.
[41:39] >> No, that was for my board.
[41:40] For the record. Thank you,
[41:50] sir. Cole Kelley s one. Good
[41:53] morning commissioners. Good
[41:54] morning, sir. My name is Cole
[41:58] Kelley and I'm running for the
[41:59] tdc more. I strongly feel that
[42:00] I would be the best applicant
[42:00] and I would love to serve our
[42:04] county on this board. I am
[42:05] Sunseeker resorts, current
[42:06] water sports provider to my
[42:07] company, p#
[42:07] #
[42:07] #
[42:08] #
[42:08] Gorda Ventures.
[42:09] I worked very closely with
[42:10] Fisherman's Village to my
[42:11] company and the Charlotte
[42:14] Harbor got map on the
[42:16] forefront of ai and technology
[42:17] and this business, but also
[42:18] being a captain and working on
[42:21] the water every single day. I
[42:22] also have a good mix of
[42:23] conservation and I know what
[42:24] makes our destination extra
[42:28] special out on the water we
[42:30] currently have over 75,000
[42:32] followers on all platforms
[42:33] actively work in promoting our
[42:35] destination with the Tourism
[42:38] bureau already on a very
[42:39] frequent basis. I think my
[42:42] young mix of ai for technology
[42:42] also still being able to
[42:47] balance things for.
[42:47] Conservation efforts would be
[42:49] best served to that. Our
[42:53] tourism development County
[42:54] actively involved in all types
[42:56] of conservation projects
[42:57] around Charlotte County,
[42:58] including captains for clean
[43:00] water. The Coastal
[43:01] Conservation Association, and
[43:02] we just planted a 10 metric
[43:05] ton oyster. That out in Turtle
[43:07] Bay. I am young and active in
[43:09] the community and as well as
[43:12] in business. I didn't have a
[43:13] hospitality business decades
[43:15] actively working with the
[43:16] current members on the board.
[43:17] And I think together we can
[43:20] make a really great change for
[43:21] the county. Some of the things
[43:21] that I think are really
[43:22] important is to have better
[43:25] signage at some of our out
[43:28] landing places as well as
[43:28] helping bring a larger
[43:29] corporate groups and that the
[43:30] county to promote better bet
[43:32] taxing. Thank you so much.
[43:33] Look forward to working hard
[43:34] for you in citizens of
[43:35] Charlotte County on the tours
[43:38] Thank your comments. Are Ariel
[43:45] Frein Ard s 3. Area less open
[43:58] areas coming around.
[43:58] >> Good afternoon.
[44:00] Commissioners Ariel Frein with
[44:02] House interest a senior vice
[44:03] PRESIDENT With House interest
[44:04] Group are based out of 3 to 5
[44:08] Aviation Avenue Coconut Grove,
[44:08] Florida. Very happy to be with
[44:10] you here. All regarding
[44:11] Murdoch Square. The other
[44:11] development that is requesting
[44:16] local government contribution.
[44:17] I've had a chance to meet with
[44:18] some of but not all. And I
[44:19] wanted to first and foremost
[44:20] into his House interest group.
[44:22] We have a develop over 10,000
[44:26] unit since 1997. Most of our
[44:29] developments are working with
[44:29] local nonprofits,
[44:30] municipalities, private
[44:32] entities all across the state
[44:34] and nationwide. Our team is
[44:35] vertically integrated. So we
[44:36] have development, finance,
[44:37] construction and management in
[44:42] House we are very excited
[44:45] about Murdoch's where because
[44:45] back in 2025 we were working
[44:47] with staff to identify the
[44:48] area of interests where we can
[44:51] bring a site forward to the
[44:52] state. And we believe right on
[44:53] Veterans Boulevard close to
[44:56] Port Charlotte Town Center is
[44:56] an excellent opportunity to
[44:57] bring affordable housing
[45:00] development of a quality to
[45:01] the county. One thing I want
[45:02] to address and some of the
[45:03] comments that were made as
[45:04] relates to, you know, the site
[45:05] in the scoring that were done
[45:08] at have. So we have a
[45:09] long-term site control with
[45:09] the seller, which is what the
[45:13] requirement is we wanted to
[45:13] identify infill site close to
[45:15] employment centers close to
[45:18] work close to walkability to
[45:19] give people that live there.
[45:20] The residents, the opportunity
[45:22] to not have to rely heavily on
[45:24] transit and to be close to
[45:25] their work and their job. That
[45:25] was the goal. And that's a
[45:28] scoring criteria at the state.
[45:28] The 3rd, the scoring as it
[45:33] relates to hot. The only
[45:33] reason that we scored lower is
[45:34] because we were offering a
[45:36] wider range of income levels.
[45:38] So we were offering some 70%
[45:39] and my unit and we are also
[45:40] offering lower band of 30%.
[45:44] >> Just to give you
[45:45] perspective, a family of a
[45:46] family of 3 household. That's
[45:48] earning about $60,000 would
[45:51] technically be priced out of
[45:51] the Blue Deep Creek site just
[45:52] based on earning too much
[45:55] money where we wanted to
[45:58] capture that if, you match it
[45:59] the same out if we were to
[46:00] match the same income levels,
[46:02] we would actually scored one
[46:03] point higher. And that's due
[46:06] to our superior location of
[46:07] the site. The other thing I
[46:08] just want to know, blue Deep
[46:09] Creek is not permit ready this
[46:11] year. So our goal is as well
[46:13] to start spending money on
[46:14] design and construction
[46:15] engineering drawings so that
[46:16] we are permit ready letter.
[46:17] Should we not be obtaining the
[46:19] funding next year? And lastly,
[46:22] I would say, you know, we have
[46:24] more units. We have 3 bedroom
[46:26] units to capture a larger
[46:27] families and higher chances of
[46:28] funding. So thank you very
[46:32] much. Thank you, sir.
[46:33] >> Comm. Tiseo: That was my
[46:34] last speaking cards. The last
[46:35] call anybody wishing to speak.
[46:35] Please come forward state your
[46:36] name. For the record. You'll
[46:37] have 3 minutes. And when
[46:38] you're done, we'll get you to
[46:40] fill out a card.
[46:46] >> Good morning. Commissioners
[46:47] Jennifer hacker with the coast
[46:48] on Heartland. National Estuary
[46:49] Partnership speaking on Pia
[46:53] Lebanon are one first. Want to
[46:54] clarify where with the U.S.
[46:58] Epa? Not 501, c 3. And we
[46:59] wanted to just quickly,
[47:02] correct for the record and for
[47:02] the public that we do and have
[47:03] done many, many things and
[47:06] continue to do for Charlotte
[47:07] County. We ourselves have
[47:09] funded over 20 years of water
[47:12] sampling in Charlotte Harbor.
[47:13] We put all of that data onto
[47:15] the chmp water Atlas where
[47:16] it's publicly accessible with
[47:18] data analysis, tools to give
[47:19] you real life readouts on the
[47:21] water conditions out there in
[47:21] the harbor and other waterways
[47:25] in Charlotte County. We also
[47:27] have fun recently finished
[47:30] funding the for 200,000. The
[47:30] Comprehensive vulnerability
[47:33] assessment in Charlotte
[47:34] County, which will make you
[47:35] eligible for more resiliency.
[47:38] Florida state grants and that
[47:39] kind of identify where you're
[47:41] vulnerable. Critical assets
[47:43] are and what we need to help
[47:43] adapt those to be more
[47:46] resilient for future storms.
[47:49] We also are embarking on a new
[47:51] project with your staff called
[47:51] the Charlotte County
[47:53] exceptional ponds. It is
[47:54] project that your staff
[47:55] brought to us that we are now
[47:56] funding and will begin this
[48:00] year. We also find keep
[48:01] Charlotte beautiful to do
[48:04] cleanups throughout the
[48:05] community. That's just a
[48:06] sampling of the many things
[48:07] that we are providing to you.
[48:09] The return on investment is
[48:11] tenfold for what you provide
[48:13] to us and what we provide back
[48:14] and being able to leverage
[48:15] those funds to get federal
[48:17] funds back to our community. I
[48:21] just wanted to also say that
[48:22] the water quality problems. We
[48:24] experience in Charlotte Harbor
[48:25] are not isolated,
[48:25] unfortunately to the Peace
[48:26] River. We cover the myakka the
[48:28] peace and Caloosahatchee
[48:30] River. A lot of our study show
[48:32] that the loading coming out.
[48:34] The Caloosahatchee has one of
[48:35] the most serious impacts lower
[48:38] Charlotte Harbor. It's what's
[48:40] driving nutrients into this
[48:42] estuary and really, you know,
[48:43] not to say that the peace
[48:44] myakka part also an issue. And
[48:47] there are also nutrient loads,
[48:49] but we actually have done the
[48:51] science to see that the
[48:52] Caloosahatchee, unfortunately
[48:54] is the largest driver of the 3
[48:54] river systems. We are working
[48:57] on all 3 of them. But Clades
[49:00] County, of course, sits on the
[49:02] Caloosahatchee. So it really
[49:05] does behoove the people of
[49:06] Charlotte County to address
[49:07] issue and a regional scale.
[49:07] And we are happy to partner
[49:09] with you to do that. Thank
[49:09] you. Thank your comment.
[49:13] Ma'am.
[49:14] >> Comm. Tiseo: Last call
[49:14] anybody wishing speak. Please
[49:15] come forward. State. Your
[49:16] name. For the record. You'll
[49:18] have 3 minutes.
[49:19] >> I am tears, ages and
[49:19] executive director for the
[49:22] animal off early. And I just
[49:23] want to take one minute to
[49:23] publicly thank Hector Flores
[49:27] and Emily Lewis. For their
[49:27] time and dedication as well as
[49:31] all of appear for working very
[49:32] hard with all of us at the
[49:34] animal Welfare League. For not
[49:37] only coming to. Partially
[49:41] agreeing with our contract,
[49:42] but for working very hard over
[49:46] the last 4 weeks. To try very
[49:49] hard to come to an agreement
[49:50] for today. We didn't quite get
[49:51] but we're working very hard
[49:51] and we're hopeful to come to
[49:54] you on SEPTEMBER. 8th. But I
[49:54] just want to take the time to
[49:57] thank them publicly for their
[49:57] hard work and dedication. It's
[49:58] been a pleasure to work with
[50:02] the over the last couple
[50:02] weeks.
[50:03] >> Comm. Tiseo: Thank you very
[50:04] much. Thank you for your
[50:04] anyone else wishing speak.
[50:05] Please come forward state.
[50:06] Your name for the record.
[50:09] You'll have 3 minutes. Okay.
[50:10] Nobody's rising move on to
[50:10] consent. Commissioner
[50:11] Deutsche, anything the Bull.
[50:15] Commissioner Truex.
[50:16] Commissioner Constance.
[50:17] Nothing commissioned already
[50:19] nothing. I have nothing the
[50:19] Motion. Second move the
[50:21] consent. Is there any further
[50:22] discussion? Commissioner
[50:27] Constance
[50:28] >> Comm. Constance: 9 is the
[50:29] approve ranking designed for
[50:29] and your fishing pier
[50:35] community services. Up the
[50:36] last meeting that you know,
[50:37] having an issue with the fact
[50:38] that the 41 bridges have been
[50:41] closed to fishing and we're
[50:42] going address it at the mpo
[50:44] meeting on Monday. Like to
[50:48] request MR. Flores have.
[50:49] Somebody from staff, whether
[50:52] MR. Elias War. Tommy or
[50:54] somebody becoming just give us
[50:55] a brief update on what's
[51:00] happening with. All of the
[51:03] fishing piers in general. Just
[51:04] a synopsis because we're going
[51:05] to we're going to we're going
[51:05] to probably room full of fish
[51:06] there. And I just want to make
[51:07] sure that we have some of you
[51:08] to give an update because
[51:11] we're gonna he's speaking with
[51:11] MR. Gaither and the secretary.
[51:13] And I think we're going to to
[51:14] a resolution, but I think it's
[51:15] important. We have everything
[51:16] on the table for everyone. So
[51:17] folks know that currently
[51:18] what's available and what our
[51:21] plan to resolve the issue will
[51:21] be. I just don't want to go on
[51:22] that one. I think it's
[51:23] important. We have full
[51:25] disclosure where we're at and
[51:26] also what's happening just in
[51:30] general with permitting. Army
[51:32] Corps why it's taking so long
[51:36] it's a an understandable
[51:36] frustration. We just think an
[51:37] update would be would be well,
[51:38] advised that that meeting.
[51:39] Thank Thank you, Sir.
[51:44] Commissioner
[51:44] >> Comm. Deutsch: Thank you.
[51:45] We discussed this on on 1, 1,
[51:46] so they I think a lot of us I
[51:47] know I was concerned about the
[51:52] closing of of the bridge for
[51:54] fishing and and specifically
[51:55] and from what I understand the
[51:56] information that got passed
[52:00] down to me literally. The
[52:00] state reacted to one
[52:03] complaint. There was one
[52:07] complaint from one person
[52:08] about the fishing on the
[52:10] bridge. And I think they
[52:11] overreacted to that. I think
[52:13] they've acknowledged that. And
[52:17] I think we anticipate and the
[52:18] next few days, if not the next
[52:19] few weeks that the bridge be
[52:26] open again to fish. So, thank
[52:26] you, sir.
[52:27] >> Yeah, just quick comment. I
[52:29] believe Missus. Lewis has a a
[52:29] comprehensive list of the pier
[52:31] so we can make that available
[52:33] pretty easy them like a one
[52:33] pager with the update, the
[52:34] status and where we are with
[52:37] with each with each of those
[52:38] Piers, is there any further
[52:39] discussion on this item? Is
[52:40] there any opposition to the
[52:45] motion? Okay. Consent passes
[52:46] unanimously. We're gonna move
[52:47] on to regular agenda. 1.5
[52:50] ballot. Tourist Development
[52:52] Council.
[52:55] >> is it too early.
[53:36] Okay. Commissioners for this
[53:37] item for the Tourist
[53:40] Development Council ballot MR.
[53:40] Cole Kelley has the majority
[53:41] to have much
[53:45] >> We have a Do we have a
[53:45] motion? Mr, killing? Yeah,
[53:50] yes. We have a second. Motion
[53:52] is second to approve. MISTER
[53:54] Kelly has the new tourist
[53:55] Development Council any
[53:59] discussion. Is there any
[54:00] further discussion? Is there
[54:01] any opposition to the motion
[54:05] that passes unanimously okay.
[54:05] We'll move on to item s to
[54:07] Metro forecasting model
[54:07] update, MR. Your next
[54:12] PRESIDENT.
[54:13] >> Morning commissioners been
[54:14] Bailey community Development
[54:14] director. I'm just here to
[54:15] introduce David Farmer from
[54:16] Metro forecasting to give us
[54:17] the latest update on
[54:18] population projections. So
[54:25] they will hand it over to him.
[54:26] >> been warning for the
[54:26] record. My name is David Frum,
[54:27] representing Metro forecasting
[54:28] models think happened here
[54:33] today. It's to that. My
[54:34] partner, Dr Paul Buskirk
[54:35] invented the knack of growth
[54:36] models that we've been using
[54:36] for the last 3 years to model
[54:39] you. In fact, why do show it
[54:42] off in this presentation? You
[54:43] know, any extra money that
[54:44] ever left over for projects.
[54:47] We do all those back and are
[54:48] indeed we just developed the
[54:48] Five-point-one that was used
[54:52] for this update. Quick walk
[54:52] down memory lane. We
[54:53] originally started working for
[54:56] you in 2023. We didn't update
[54:57] and 2024 because that was part
[54:58] of the original contract to do
[55:02] an automatic update. Then we
[55:05] updated again twice in 2025
[55:06] FEBRUARY and then again,
[55:06] FEBRUARY, they did then and
[55:07] then with AUGUST 8 in
[55:09] DECEMBER. And now we're here
[55:11] today with the APRIL data. And
[55:12] this time we've actually
[55:14] backfield our data with
[55:17] certificate of occupancy data,
[55:18] which might sound like bunch
[55:18] of gobbledygook. But that
[55:20] means that dead-on accurate.
[55:21] We have every single not
[55:26] verified and uncommitted. Just
[55:27] a quick refresher on the igm.
[55:29] It's a very active, very
[55:33] complex growth management
[55:34] tool. It's it's really
[55:34] designed for long-range
[55:36] planning, planning for
[55:36] facilities and informing
[55:38] boards like yourselves of the
[55:40] needs that that meant to be
[55:42] readily obvious. But looking
[55:43] 5.10, years down the road, can
[55:44] see these things are needed to
[55:45] begin plan budget for them
[55:48] plan for the next senator. We
[55:50] also use ai is part of our a
[55:51] bill that analysis. It helps
[55:53] give us more accuracy because
[55:56] some zonings allowed multiple
[55:57] outcomes and yet the model can
[55:59] take just one for a partial.
[56:02] And so we we use that for that
[56:03] analysis and this and update
[56:04] also helped us identify some
[56:05] micro macro trends, which I'll
[56:08] be sharing with you today.
[56:09] What really makes us different
[56:10] than our competition?
[56:13] Actually, most forecasters in
[56:13] general is that we believe
[56:15] that growth happens in an
[56:18] organic fashion following
[56:20] logistic curve to get a little
[56:20] ahead of myself. We have 353
[56:23] zones in Charlotte County and
[56:25] each one have the very home,
[56:28] very complex curve that makes
[56:28] that up. In fact, our new
[56:29] model election now looks at
[56:30] all of the building data per
[56:32] zone and then does a ton of
[56:34] statistical now cycle 1100
[56:35] times to reach the growth
[56:41] factors for each one of these.
[56:42] As you probably aware when you
[56:44] have a whole bunch of zone, 1,
[56:45] 2, 3 zone, 4, 5, 6, they're
[56:48] just numbers only mean much.
[56:49] So we categorize them into
[56:49] clusters so that when we talk
[56:51] about things are a little more
[56:53] interesting right? The said
[56:55] zone 4, 5, 6 was Babcock are
[56:56] part of plot that sort thing.
[56:57] But I say Babcock now you can
[56:58] 0, one exactly what I'm
[56:59] talking about. And that's why
[57:01] we do those. All right. So
[57:04] jumping right to the desert to
[57:04] the findings. You've had some
[57:05] growth in case you weren't
[57:11] aware. A 2022. Is your peak.
[57:14] And and to no fault. I mean
[57:15] this through no fault of your
[57:16] planning department or your
[57:17] facilities, directors or what
[57:19] not the levels of service have
[57:22] declined. That brings a bullet
[57:23] point. Number 2, it's a climb
[57:24] because you've had 50,000
[57:28] people since the census.
[57:30] That's more than a 25% growth
[57:31] rate in 5 years. I know you're
[57:32] feeling and can see it when
[57:32] you drive around town and so
[57:36] forth. And I know you know
[57:37] this, but I to say on the
[57:38] record, that's a lot. That's
[57:39] why I moved here from
[57:42] Fairbanks, Alaska, the greater
[57:43] favorite areas, very slow
[57:45] 32,000. But there is a 50,000
[57:47] today. That was a 99. Today,
[57:49] 50,000. You guys have added
[57:50] that he all of the springs
[57:52] picked up and moved here since
[57:52] 2020 is the kind of people are
[57:59] talking about. Since JANUARY.
[58:01] 25 2025 you have added 7500
[58:03] units. And if you pay
[58:05] attention to building very
[58:05] wait a minute date. This
[58:06] crazy. Didn't we had an issue
[58:07] that many building permits
[58:12] that's what we call lag. Lax
[58:13] especially with higher in
[58:14] single-family homes and
[58:15] multifamily projects. That
[58:16] could be 18 to 24 months from
[58:18] when you issue a permit for
[58:20] that actually hits the books
[58:20] and shows up. But again, these
[58:22] are all verified the CEOs
[58:24] because I looked at number 4,
[58:25] 5 times to make sure that it
[58:26] was right because it was a it
[58:32] was a big one. So you've had
[58:34] an ongoing trend. Your
[58:35] commercial development back
[58:37] in. 23 was about 70 square
[58:38] feet per capita. And I've got
[58:38] a graph to show you a few
[58:42] minutes show that stacks up.
[58:44] But is your commercial, your
[58:45] daddy, that a few 100,000
[58:47] square feet over the last few
[58:48] years. But it's just not
[58:48] keeping up with your
[58:49] population growth and that's
[58:50] adding to congestion and in
[58:53] traffic woes and so forth
[58:54] today, you're at about 63
[58:56] square feet on a per capita
[58:58] basis. We think that pretty
[59:00] sure this is true, you're
[59:01] leaking to your retail demand
[59:04] is leaking both Charlotte
[59:05] County to that are to serve
[59:06] the county to the north of the
[59:07] Lee County to the South.
[59:08] Michigan doesn't Commissioner
[59:09] Constance you're recognized.
[59:11] Yeah. Go Your presentations or
[59:12] is amazing. I do want to ask
[59:18] though. You know, a lot of
[59:19] >> Comm. Constance: the sales
[59:19] that have gone on in the last
[59:20] 20 years, especially covid.
[59:21] He's been very disruptive and
[59:23] a lot of people just shopping
[59:28] by their mailbox. So. You
[59:29] know, I would assume we're
[59:30] going to be seeing a lot more
[59:35] delivery service. Type of
[59:36] businesses booming. As you
[59:36] know, if you go to the mall,
[59:37] it's very quiet. If you go to
[59:40] a lot of the yes, small
[59:42] businesses that you arrive on
[59:43] foot, they're not getting shot
[59:46] as they were 20 years ago. So
[59:51] is part of that lag in your
[59:52] estimation, underestimated or
[59:55] overestimated? In other words.
[59:57] If we're looking at by the old
[59:59] standards, you're way behind
[59:59] But the new standards, again,
[1:00:00] you're being organic and how
[1:00:02] you're looking these things.
[1:00:06] Maybe this is just the new
[1:00:07] normal.
[1:00:08] >> Right. And that's I would
[1:00:08] remiss in my job if I had
[1:00:09] heard that question 4 and had
[1:00:11] an answer ready for u n it's
[1:00:13] just a canned answer.
[1:00:18] >> We're well aware of the
[1:00:18] Amazon defecation, if you
[1:00:20] will. That's a real word or
[1:00:21] not. People shopping from from
[1:00:21] their from their laptops and
[1:00:22] from that them from their
[1:00:25] phones. That does happen. But
[1:00:25] there's also things like
[1:00:29] Instacart you've heard of that
[1:00:30] will those still of its money
[1:00:33] from real retail centers. And
[1:00:34] so yes, in the old days and
[1:00:34] I'll show you in our in my
[1:00:38] chart a few minutes here that
[1:00:39] actually 100 square feet was
[1:00:40] considered absolutely normal
[1:00:43] for an area to have some
[1:00:44] places that have tourism have
[1:00:47] a higher per capita. Some
[1:00:48] places have a lower one
[1:00:48] because of either
[1:00:50] socioeconomic issues or
[1:00:53] because there are shopping in
[1:00:54] nearby counties. But we think
[1:00:54] that you still should be in
[1:00:57] the 75 range easy without
[1:01:00] breaking this for sweat. Part
[1:01:02] of this could also be not just
[1:01:03] retail facilities, but also a
[1:01:04] lag in unemployment as well.
[1:01:10] So we'd like to encourage some
[1:01:10] redevelopment in in this area
[1:01:12] right here where I stand. I
[1:01:12] was just it was amazing. Drunk
[1:01:16] driving 41 this morning of all
[1:01:16] that the retail and shops and
[1:01:17] businesses to the side, which
[1:01:22] is great but I think about all
[1:01:22] of the new people that are
[1:01:23] really living on Babcock and
[1:01:26] that sort of area and off to
[1:01:26] the west and of course, north
[1:01:27] of here as well. You've had a
[1:01:30] huge influx of people and
[1:01:31] those areas. When you look at,
[1:01:32] they basically about a 7.11,
[1:01:35] are food deserts. I'm not
[1:01:36] calling that clock a few
[1:01:36] dozen. Of course, they have a
[1:01:37] Publix got another one on the
[1:01:40] way. But we still think that
[1:01:40] you're short, no matter which
[1:01:44] way we slice it. Yes, those
[1:01:45] those services are reducing
[1:01:46] the need for some of the big
[1:01:49] box stores. But not as much as
[1:01:54] one might think.
[1:01:54] >> So and I don't know how
[1:01:55] much we You could I don't know
[1:01:56] how much you've researched
[1:01:57] North port, but I'm sure you
[1:01:59] have to look at the
[1:02:03] surrounding areas and have a
[1:02:03] feed-in. You have any kind of
[1:02:04] an assessment about how they
[1:02:05] run because they have a pretty
[1:02:06] healthy commercial corridor
[1:02:08] from the from the Charlotte
[1:02:11] County Line North. You know,
[1:02:16] they didn't plan well. 4.
[1:02:16] >> Comm. Constance: Multiple
[1:02:17] malls and businesses that, you
[1:02:20] know, a lot of going frequent
[1:02:21] general when so close, we've
[1:02:21] kind of grown into Sarasota
[1:02:24] County in that respect.
[1:02:25] >> Comm. Constance: how has
[1:02:27] their planning work doubt they
[1:02:28] had to, you know, an ability
[1:02:31] to wait 30 years and plan
[1:02:32] after, you know, they saw what
[1:02:35] went on with, you know, a
[1:02:36] little stripped areas on 41,
[1:02:37] maybe not a successful word.
[1:02:39] We're having some. You know,
[1:02:43] again, resurgence regeneration
[1:02:44] reworking promenades at some
[1:02:45] point. Going to come on with
[1:02:45] that with a new iteration
[1:02:48] which we've approved. So and
[1:02:51] the mall here will get
[1:02:52] redevelopment. Some point you
[1:02:53] know, what is your opinion of
[1:02:55] what's going I so. Will you
[1:02:58] show a county's population has
[1:02:59] been greater than North
[1:03:00] port's? North port had more of
[1:03:01] a concentration of population.
[1:03:01] And I think that attracted
[1:03:05] some of the uses that you are.
[1:03:05] >> Comm. Constance: You are
[1:03:07] residents actually are
[1:03:08] enjoying right now. And in
[1:03:08] some cases it's much faster to
[1:03:12] drive just. A mile north to
[1:03:14] shop in North port. And it is
[1:03:14] down here because, again, of
[1:03:15] some of the congestion that we
[1:03:18] have.
[1:03:18] >> they
[1:03:19] >> certainly have some uses
[1:03:22] that you don't. But I think
[1:03:22] that largely Charlotte County
[1:03:26] undiscovered in terms of what
[1:03:28] it could be by some of our our
[1:03:29] major retailers are are
[1:03:30] realizing especially out west
[1:03:34] that that West Cluster is just
[1:03:34] breathtaking. Don't know which
[1:03:41] one the West, but West to to
[1:03:42] axe. It's just it. My jaw
[1:03:42] drops. Every time I look at
[1:03:45] the building permitting over
[1:03:45] there and the concentration
[1:03:46] now you've got power, all
[1:03:49] energize now to the South. We
[1:03:50] think that there is highly
[1:03:51] underserved not tried a trick
[1:03:52] question about northward, but
[1:03:53] it's convenient. Yes, tried to
[1:03:56] North port right? We don't
[1:03:57] want to say that there's a
[1:03:58] line. But for every tax dollar
[1:04:00] that's spent across the county
[1:04:01] line, that's another dollar. A
[1:04:02] portion of dollar doesn't
[1:04:05] repay tree itself. Back to the
[1:04:06] county. So and I know that I
[1:04:07] relate my customers. You guys
[1:04:08] are the government. Your job
[1:04:11] is not to build retailer that
[1:04:12] and you So you guys have a lot
[1:04:14] of vacant land and your
[1:04:14] economic develop. Team is
[1:04:16] doing an excellent job. We
[1:04:19] just need to make sure that
[1:04:20] we're encouraging some
[1:04:21] commercial centers, especially
[1:04:23] to the West. The Babcock has
[1:04:25] really been a poster child of
[1:04:26] the right thing to do their
[1:04:27] commercials coming online.
[1:04:28] Bricks, brisk pace faster than
[1:04:34] I would imagine with it with
[1:04:35] similar population growth in
[1:04:35] an organized fashion. But has
[1:04:36] been really great. Bringing on
[1:04:37] industrial and commercial to
[1:04:39] meet the needs that residents
[1:04:40] like to see some of that and
[1:04:43] more in in the West Cluster
[1:04:45] and in the north part of the
[1:04:45] Mid cluster to meet the
[1:04:46] existing demands and the
[1:04:47] growing demands that are
[1:04:53] coming. Think so. Yeah. Let's
[1:04:54] that credit update. The Inuit
[1:04:56] allows me to look at the data,
[1:04:57] our laws, our whole team, to
[1:04:58] look at the data and then
[1:04:58] report to you what we're
[1:05:02] seeing. This is a a graphic
[1:05:03] showing by 4, 5 times every
[1:05:07] time it's been updated, this
[1:05:09] is different than every graph
[1:05:10] that we've done for a
[1:05:11] population mostly because as a
[1:05:12] sharp acute angle that is very
[1:05:16] disjointed and unusual. The
[1:05:17] genesis of that, we believe is
[1:05:20] Westport Slash Murdoch and
[1:05:21] Babcock coming online at the
[1:05:23] same time, your bill that has
[1:05:23] always been us about the same
[1:05:25] it is today. Maybe a little
[1:05:27] bit less. But the rate of
[1:05:28] growth in the change of
[1:05:29] absorption has really changed
[1:05:29] those 2 projects. And let's
[1:05:32] not forget about covid. You
[1:05:32] can't overlook that. And not
[1:05:36] only that, it is, but you can
[1:05:37] see now the growth in the
[1:05:38] future is it looks cheaper
[1:05:39] because it's a little
[1:05:41] compressed from left to right.
[1:05:42] But you have a nice trajectory
[1:05:45] now going. And I think that it
[1:05:46] once even Westport builds out.
[1:05:48] You're going to see a lot more
[1:05:48] interest in the areas west for
[1:05:49] has has taken on more
[1:05:52] commercial. And it's more
[1:05:53] convenient place to live. If
[1:05:54] that makes sense, that's going
[1:05:54] accelerate growth in area much
[1:05:57] the way that that first or
[1:05:58] will want to finally see some
[1:06:00] commercial down that way.
[1:06:01] Commissioner Door recognized.
[1:06:03] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN Day,
[1:06:04] I'm just looking at your table
[1:06:05] you know, we see it before.
[1:06:07] You've updated the number of
[1:06:08] cases previously you indicated
[1:06:10] that we would probably hit 50%
[1:06:11] of our build a population of
[1:06:13] around 2030.
[1:06:18] >> Obviously now it's moved up
[1:06:20] to. We want 27 28 zoning. 2
[1:06:21] years to 3 years will only
[1:06:24] achieve. 50% of our total
[1:06:28] build out population. Just
[1:06:30] that settle. We will only be
[1:06:31] half way with our total
[1:06:37] population. So but that just
[1:06:38] absorb as to what it's going
[1:06:39] to be like here in 20 to 30
[1:06:39] years, if we don't keep up
[1:06:40] with infrastructure. Thank
[1:06:44] you, MISTER. Thank you, sir.
[1:06:45] We also to look at the same
[1:06:47] graph. You look at 2040,
[1:06:53] 310,000. You know, you are you
[1:06:53] one 87.
[1:06:53] >> Yet the census and now
[1:06:54] we're talking about 3.10, to
[1:06:55] 20 years later. And that is
[1:07:02] Your growth has been. I don't
[1:07:05] think it's going to slow down
[1:07:05] the. I think that you yes,
[1:07:05] it's going to slow down from
[1:07:05] its peak. You guys are well
[1:07:07] past peak. But but the growth
[1:07:07] Regency today, I think you're
[1:07:10] going to see that continue on
[1:07:16] for quite some time.
[1:07:17] Population people come from
[1:07:18] houses writer, they live in
[1:07:20] houses. East ideally. And so
[1:07:21] the more housing is we have
[1:07:23] the more population we today.
[1:07:24] We're sitting on just under
[1:07:27] 136,000 housing units actually
[1:07:31] that was as the end of MARCH.
[1:07:31] And and you can see your build
[1:07:34] out is is protective mask to
[1:07:35] be about Will tell you that
[1:07:39] numbers low. I'll tell you
[1:07:40] that because the methodology
[1:07:41] we use as we do go around,
[1:07:43] just knocking down shopping
[1:07:44] centers and putting in
[1:07:45] multi-family or residential
[1:07:48] that you have an approved. But
[1:07:50] I look at my crystal ball,
[1:07:50] especially drive up. 41 and I
[1:07:51] can say 100 use a look at
[1:07:53] their 100 is look at there.
[1:07:54] Your your bill that is
[1:07:57] probably going to be closer to
[1:08:00] 2.85, maybe 10290,000 units.
[1:08:01] But that's a whole lot of this
[1:08:03] Lot of boards from now. You'll
[1:08:09] be adding 13,000 more homes
[1:08:09] between now and 2030, bring
[1:08:14] more people with it I hope you
[1:08:17] like this. Next session. I'm
[1:08:18] trying to make a point here.
[1:08:20] So we develop this back in
[1:08:21] 2023 to show you how each area
[1:08:24] was growing. And I think it's
[1:08:26] not fast enough for years in,
[1:08:31] we started the left-hand Look
[1:08:32] at Babcock. One might
[1:08:33] incorrectly assume down. It's,
[1:08:35] you know, it's growth is not
[1:08:36] growing. Really? It's it's
[1:08:37] maxed out its rate of growth.
[1:08:38] And now it's in a linear phase
[1:08:41] of that. So that we see those
[1:08:43] bars will continue fly for 5
[1:08:44] more years and then a slight
[1:08:48] will go down in there velocity
[1:08:49] as as Babcock starts
[1:08:50] approaching it, it's it's
[1:08:51] build out. We look at first a
[1:08:55] road you can definitely see
[1:08:56] the projects that have been
[1:08:58] approved by you and are taking
[1:09:00] root and building down that
[1:09:03] way. We look at East member
[1:09:04] East does not include the
[1:09:06] Babcock area. We pulled that
[1:09:08] out separately. You can see
[1:09:10] there's a little burst. Think
[1:09:10] that's p#
[1:09:10] #
[1:09:10] #
[1:09:11] #
[1:09:11] Gorda where that
[1:09:12] growth that took place and we
[1:09:15] look at the mid we told you a
[1:09:16] long time ago that this area
[1:09:19] right here is still your
[1:09:19] number one goal spot no matter
[1:09:20] what it's good. But terms of
[1:09:21] velocity, in terms out now
[1:09:23] growth, this is it right here.
[1:09:25] The this whole cluster around
[1:09:31] us. It has a a large appetite
[1:09:32] for services and a lot of
[1:09:33] vacant. Lots still this area
[1:09:34] is not even approaching in
[1:09:37] close to build up. I'm not
[1:09:38] even half fact, for some of
[1:09:41] the old math, this area alone
[1:09:41] is needs another 4
[1:09:43] neighborhood shopping centers
[1:09:44] blows your mind like for
[1:09:44] Publix type shopping centers.
[1:09:47] In addition to its here. I'm
[1:09:48] not saying in the downtown
[1:09:49] area but dispersed throughout
[1:09:51] the area to reduce those those
[1:09:52] trip Lakes, p#
[1:09:52] #
[1:09:53] #
[1:09:53] #
[1:09:53] Gorda is
[1:09:55] fairly level and then we look
[1:09:57] at the West we see that that
[1:09:58] blast these really picked up
[1:09:59] in the past years. I think
[1:10:00] that's from your national home
[1:10:01] Not positive. I think it's
[1:10:02] your lung, ours and and others
[1:10:04] that picked up and spit sped
[1:10:08] up that velocity over there.
[1:10:09] That area 10's was will serve,
[1:10:10] especially the north end where
[1:10:11] it touches the Venice area. I
[1:10:13] believe you have Savannah's
[1:10:14] people coming down shopping.
[1:10:15] You're course we want that to
[1:10:16] continue as much as possible
[1:10:18] because it adds taxes. But to
[1:10:19] the South and the West
[1:10:23] Corridor. We need some more
[1:10:24] commercial of their. We are
[1:10:25] going to have a traffic
[1:10:26] nightmare if not already on
[1:10:29] our hands. In fact, to hand
[1:10:30] rose been doing your data last
[1:10:31] 3 years. He and I going to
[1:10:31] head West and going all the
[1:10:34] way to the south get current
[1:10:37] on what's going on over there.
[1:10:38] And we've got a new rv park.
[1:10:39] It's coming out of Maybe maybe
[1:10:43] that's open by now Hewitt. So
[1:10:44] the comparison one of the
[1:10:44] makes another we talk about
[1:10:45] every every cluster of talk
[1:10:46] about the right, the left
[1:10:49] Babcock and west. If your
[1:10:50] mind's eye keesey that 1500
[1:10:52] line and sort of dried, let's
[1:10:53] just pretend those those 2
[1:10:55] clusters are about equal in
[1:10:55] terms of their of their their
[1:10:59] home building right? Okay. So
[1:11:00] now just switch from housing
[1:11:02] used to population note note
[1:11:05] how those 2 areas were sort of
[1:11:06] same ish and note how Babcock
[1:11:09] is actually adding 3,000 more
[1:11:10] people year by the West is
[1:11:12] only adding about 2500. That
[1:11:13] is demographics. That's
[1:11:14] families versus non fat must
[1:11:17] say no family the west. But in
[1:11:17] general, when you when you
[1:11:18] average all out, we have more
[1:11:19] people per housing unit
[1:11:21] showing up in the Babcock
[1:11:23] area. I said that was
[1:11:24] interesting to show you where
[1:11:26] we have similar, how building
[1:11:27] patterns and yet different
[1:11:27] population showing up with
[1:11:34] slightly different needs. A
[1:11:35] images might look similar to
[1:11:36] They are all brand new. This
[1:11:36] is every door k#
[1:11:36] #
[1:11:36] #
[1:11:36] that showed
[1:11:41] up in 2025. Call that teal.
[1:11:46] Than on orange color. Yours.
[1:11:46] Just single-family. And here
[1:11:48] you what purpose? Turquoise
[1:11:52] island, turquoise area and and
[1:11:56] the the orange are your multi
[1:11:57] families granted And I will
[1:12:00] tell you that Babcock is
[1:12:01] great. Distorted those housing
[1:12:02] units just the but the doctor
[1:12:04] so close together, they're on
[1:12:05] top of each other and you
[1:12:06] can't really fully appreciate
[1:12:06] all of the construction that's
[1:12:07] going out there. And that goes
[1:12:08] for some of the other areas
[1:12:11] around here, too. You can see
[1:12:13] especially down by where the
[1:12:14] legend where it says Charlie
[1:12:15] County residential. You can
[1:12:17] see the Birds Star Road really
[1:12:18] taking off and in the emerging
[1:12:22] as well as Tucker's point.
[1:12:25] Called the Willow, I believe.
[1:12:26] And then that West area that
[1:12:26] West areas really even the
[1:12:28] barrier island that
[1:12:30] interesting, you know, I was I
[1:12:31] the figure any year you have 2
[1:12:32] or 3 building permits out
[1:12:34] there. But what is that like
[1:12:35] 15 or 20 happening in the
[1:12:36] area? So I think these are
[1:12:39] very interesting to see in
[1:12:40] useful in terms of recognizing
[1:12:41] that it's not just one area
[1:12:42] that's going you guys are
[1:12:45] going fairly evenly as the
[1:12:45] land and utilities and such
[1:12:48] are are available. So we start
[1:12:50] with 1000 now wasn't over the
[1:12:52] population. So I said you're
[1:12:55] going to add 13,000 housing
[1:12:55] used by Twenty-thirty will in
[1:12:56] those housing units. We think
[1:12:58] you're going to be 25,000
[1:12:59] people based on the
[1:13:04] demographics and so the
[1:13:05] Westport Murdoch area is going
[1:13:07] to be that's going to
[1:13:09] represent about 21% of your of
[1:13:10] your population. We think that
[1:13:11] area will largely built out
[1:13:14] close to 2030, as it closes.
[1:13:18] Cluster of redevelopment there
[1:13:21] Babcock. 42 1% of all of your
[1:13:21] future residents between out
[1:13:22] 2030 are going to live in the
[1:13:24] Babcock area, which is why
[1:13:25] they're bringing on not only
[1:13:28] their second Publix and so in
[1:13:29] 2023, we said by 2035 for sure
[1:13:30] Babcock was going to need
[1:13:33] another one. In fact, we're a
[1:13:35] little too conservative in our
[1:13:36] in estimation, looks like it's
[1:13:38] going to get closer to 20 to
[1:13:40] 29 out there, which which is a
[1:13:40] very good thing, actually
[1:13:43] increase even more velocity.
[1:13:43] We think of demand for
[1:13:48] development. We then have a
[1:13:48] 14% people showing up in the
[1:13:51] West Coast, which is mind
[1:13:52] boggling to me. When I look at
[1:13:53] all those building permits
[1:13:55] showing up in also underscores
[1:13:55] what's happening over in been
[1:13:58] Babcock as well. And then 9%
[1:14:00] down in the first our
[1:14:02] corridor. That's not to say
[1:14:04] it's less desirable. It's just
[1:14:05] there's potential for growth
[1:14:06] down there. There is these
[1:14:10] other areas of the county.
[1:14:11] This, Matthew, this is some
[1:14:12] fuzzy math. But what I'm
[1:14:12] trying get across a general
[1:14:15] point to you, and that is that
[1:14:16] since you've grown by 50,000
[1:14:19] people in 5 years, more parks
[1:14:20] are needed more fire stations.
[1:14:21] I know you have a new fire
[1:14:24] station to be built. Kudos
[1:14:24] just looking at the raw
[1:14:28] numbers. I know more needed. I
[1:14:29] think a call for service
[1:14:31] analysis would greatly help
[1:14:31] understand where and when
[1:14:32] these new fire stations are
[1:14:36] needed. Love to do that for
[1:14:37] you. We also need 3 new
[1:14:37] shopping centers. We know
[1:14:40] Publix has purchased one site
[1:14:41] and and I think we're going to
[1:14:42] see others emerging. Hopefully
[1:14:43] one down a burnt store road in
[1:14:49] the near future. And then when
[1:14:50] population grows, as we know,
[1:14:52] specialist quickly levels of
[1:14:54] service declined. And with
[1:14:55] that comes capital spending in
[1:14:58] planning and so forth. We want
[1:14:59] to make sure we have these
[1:15:00] these shopping centers in
[1:15:01] right place, not just to keep
[1:15:03] sales taxes, but because we
[1:15:04] want to cut down trip. Planks
[1:15:06] of people are driving to
[1:15:06] further congestion. The roads
[1:15:07] we can only widen roads. Much
[1:15:08] going to go broke, trying to
[1:15:11] widen all the roads, just
[1:15:11] accommodate traffic words. We
[1:15:14] can have These facilities,
[1:15:17] shopping centers located
[1:15:17] inappropriate locations. It
[1:15:20] really will cut down on on
[1:15:21] trip traffic. We did that just
[1:15:22] broke what we did an analysis
[1:15:22] last year for Charlotte.
[1:15:25] You're for. Cape Coral. We
[1:15:27] found this one neighborhood of
[1:15:28] the added. It's a promoted to
[1:15:33] neighborhood shopping centers.
[1:15:34] That one there was demand for
[1:15:35] 3, Ted. It is 45,000. And that
[1:15:36] was that the diplomat
[1:15:37] quarters. 45,000 people in a
[1:15:39] court in sports, 3, if they
[1:15:39] just if they promote 2 of
[1:15:43] those being built today, not
[1:15:44] in the future today, they're
[1:15:46] going to save 1.4 million
[1:15:47] miles of driving in by build
[1:15:48] out 4 million miles a year
[1:15:50] every year. Every year. It
[1:15:51] that's 40 cars a year. If use
[1:15:54] the old 100,000 a car, 40 cars
[1:15:55] that won't have to be built to
[1:15:58] make those trips anymore.
[1:15:59] Similar without doing the
[1:16:01] math, I can tell your case is
[1:16:01] similar to we need to make
[1:16:03] sure that there's land set
[1:16:06] aside in outer areas the West.
[1:16:06] Are you pretty much do you
[1:16:07] have some some nice tracks of
[1:16:08] land of that can accommodate
[1:16:12] these larger commercial
[1:16:13] projects? We're concerned.
[1:16:15] It's the mid cluster in the
[1:16:15] northern areas. Not right up
[1:16:17] against necessarily a North
[1:16:20] port, but it probably need to
[1:16:22] a perfect world. We'd be able
[1:16:23] take some lots, an aggregate
[1:16:26] them in in preserve some 6, 7,
[1:16:26] 8, acre sites to have future
[1:16:27] grocery stores and such to
[1:16:30] again, reduce that trips. At a
[1:16:31] quality life, it'll it'll
[1:16:32] it'll make the tax base grow
[1:16:36] and so forth. Table. You've
[1:16:36] seen it before. All the
[1:16:37] numbers are different. I
[1:16:38] promise you. This is saying
[1:16:42] that by 2030, we actually
[1:16:42] absolutely need 3 more
[1:16:43] neighborhood shopping centers
[1:16:46] and much astounding is and
[1:16:47] this gets back to leakage is
[1:16:48] you also need 3 community
[1:16:51] shopping centers. Now those
[1:16:52] are nothing to seize that.
[1:16:54] We're talking about 3 to
[1:16:54] 400,000 Square feet of big box
[1:16:58] said 3 of those you're not
[1:16:59] likely to see those in the
[1:17:01] next 5 years. Even 10 years,
[1:17:02] mostly because the leakage
[1:17:03] it's going on, though there is
[1:17:05] opportunity, especially in the
[1:17:05] Western cluster and has
[1:17:10] Babcock starts building out to
[1:17:11] to have community shopping
[1:17:11] centre facilities in those in
[1:17:15] those areas. If you see
[1:17:16] negative numbers, what that
[1:17:18] means is that areas is
[1:17:19] technically oversupplied like
[1:17:19] p#
[1:17:19] #
[1:17:20] #
[1:17:20] #
[1:17:20] I have 3 neighborhood
[1:17:23] shopping centers, but it can
[1:17:23] really want support 2 and a
[1:17:24] half and the rest of be met by
[1:17:25] this red. The people
[1:17:28] surrounding that area. Here's
[1:17:30] a map. This map is not meant
[1:17:32] beast partial specific. It's
[1:17:35] more to say that the burst our
[1:17:35] corridor. I need a community
[1:17:36] shopping center in a
[1:17:39] neighborhood shopping center.
[1:17:42] Also up in the Mid court made
[1:17:43] cluster. We can see that we
[1:17:44] have a new store called for in
[1:17:47] 30, 40 45 and then over the
[1:17:50] West Cluster no later than
[1:17:51] 2035, we need another
[1:17:52] neighborhood over there that's
[1:17:54] placed on commercial lands and
[1:17:55] actually love to see that
[1:17:55] could be over in the West
[1:17:57] closed that green shopping
[1:17:59] cart. They see that further
[1:18:00] south, actually, because
[1:18:01] that's where the population
[1:18:04] concentration really is. And
[1:18:06] the northern reaches
[1:18:07] Englewood. And you can see as
[1:18:11] at 41 win a road that is 41
[1:18:11] its, what, 7, 7, 6, 7, 7, 6,
[1:18:14] goes East West. We need to get
[1:18:15] for the far enough of that
[1:18:17] area as a Walmart to Publix
[1:18:19] and that airs on despite the
[1:18:19] area south of that, that they
[1:18:22] were concerned about. All
[1:18:23] right. Here's the charter told
[1:18:24] it was going to show you this
[1:18:25] is this is our data. We don't
[1:18:28] download from the Internet.
[1:18:29] And so that's why it's sort of
[1:18:30] limited. Doesn't county around
[1:18:34] you. But we have personally
[1:18:35] mind all of these numbers and
[1:18:36] you can see how they the
[1:18:40] average out around 100 and
[1:18:41] What I think is a useful
[1:18:44] comparison. As you look at
[1:18:47] Sarasota County and in Manatee
[1:18:47] County, those to join each
[1:18:48] other. If you're familiar with
[1:18:50] the Sarasota Mall, that's
[1:18:51] right. On the side the North
[1:18:53] line Sarasota County and
[1:18:54] surely that's why Manatee has
[1:18:55] a lower supply because they
[1:18:57] have 2 or 3 million square
[1:18:58] feet of commercial space. They
[1:19:01] can come enjoy or their spaces
[1:19:02] is to the north. It averages
[1:19:05] out to be 100. That's say
[1:19:08] that. I think you need 70 75
[1:19:11] square feet to be competitive
[1:19:14] and and to be more economic, a
[1:19:14] diverse to with the
[1:19:15] understanding that you can't
[1:19:15] just snap your fingers and
[1:19:17] create square feet of of more
[1:19:24] commercial space. This this
[1:19:26] slide in table are all new and
[1:19:28] it's not meant to be preachy.
[1:19:28] It's really intended for my
[1:19:29] heart to be informative. And
[1:19:31] maybe you already know this
[1:19:33] this cut. This is so this is
[1:19:34] not this year's tax taxable
[1:19:35] values. This is the 24 25 to
[1:19:38] school fiscal year and what
[1:19:39] I'm trying to show you is is
[1:19:41] how you compare against some
[1:19:41] other counties that I think of
[1:19:43] similar demographics to you.
[1:19:47] Similar not the same in terms
[1:19:50] of where they're so their
[1:19:50] taxes 81% of yours comes from
[1:19:53] comes from residential.
[1:19:57] Really? It's 83 Martin 78
[1:19:59] Sarasota. 84 vacant land.
[1:20:01] Mean, we liked vacant land
[1:20:03] that they come in Disney
[1:20:04] services and yet provides
[1:20:05] taxes. So that's that's that's
[1:20:06] a positive. Then we get to
[1:20:09] commercial and we see that
[1:20:10] that that were actually sort
[1:20:11] of falling behind We're a
[1:20:13] little behind when it comes to
[1:20:15] Lee Martin and in Sarasota
[1:20:16] counties. So we'd like to I'd
[1:20:18] like to see that pop up a
[1:20:19] little bit question.
[1:20:20] Commissioner Constance
[1:20:26] recognized? Thank you, sir.
[1:20:27] >> Comm. Constance: I
[1:20:28] understand what you're We go
[1:20:28] back and you're saying we one
[1:20:32] of the lowest. Commercial
[1:20:32] square-foot think of
[1:20:33] harassment. But when you go to
[1:20:36] the sliding, you're showing me
[1:20:43] these percentages. Show me the
[1:20:43] vacancy rates because I don't
[1:20:44] know that that that are
[1:20:45] commercial property is
[1:20:48] completely full. I there's lot
[1:20:49] them. Right. So you're pushing
[1:20:50] for one thing. But then you
[1:20:51] say we need a lot more
[1:20:54] commercial. Many more dust
[1:20:55] robot, maybe agree with you
[1:20:55] because I think whatever we
[1:20:57] have is getting gobbled up.
[1:20:58] But commercial wise, what is
[1:21:03] our vacancy rate for
[1:21:03] commercial?
[1:21:04] >> What's number? So I don't
[1:21:05] know what the vacancy is, but
[1:21:06] what that's telling me from my
[1:21:07] perspective, not arguing
[1:21:08] saying I'm right at my
[1:21:09] perspective is that means it's
[1:21:10] in the wrong location. There's
[1:21:11] too much clustered in this in
[1:21:14] this area here where we needed
[1:21:15] and they did pick up about a
[1:21:15] 3rd of it in any dispersant
[1:21:17] around the county because
[1:21:18] that's where the demands
[1:21:20] originally. This was the core
[1:21:21] population here that beaten
[1:21:22] snout current turned into a
[1:21:24] business center and and I
[1:21:25] couldn't help but notice
[1:21:28] there's a lot of places to eat
[1:21:29] in some businesses, but I
[1:21:29] couldn't get over how many
[1:21:30] places that were to eat along
[1:21:33] that the 41 corridor and I saw
[1:21:38] want to pick a businesses. I
[1:21:39] what used to be neighborhood
[1:21:41] shopping centers and now other
[1:21:42] things. Okay. Not to pick on
[1:21:45] something outside of Bingo
[1:21:45] hall, perhaps things like
[1:21:46] against being like that like
[1:21:50] it real for that. But those
[1:21:53] examples of that are ideal for
[1:21:54] adding multifamily know you're
[1:21:54] icon. Debuts. Got to tell me
[1:21:55] I'm growing like crazy night
[1:21:58] on grow. Some more. Well,
[1:22:00] reason I have vacancies, zone
[1:22:01] of customers in the area. And
[1:22:03] so by bringing in people, I
[1:22:04] have future employees. They
[1:22:05] can live close to where
[1:22:07] they're going to work and easy
[1:22:08] to shop close to transit and
[1:22:11] all those things. I think it's
[1:22:12] what I What you see is
[1:22:13] vacancies. Eye sees
[1:22:15] opportunity to hopefully bring
[1:22:16] in some developers that
[1:22:17] specialize in redevelopment
[1:22:18] with retail not knock down the
[1:22:21] retail, but but remove parts
[1:22:22] of it and add residential uses
[1:22:26] in those places. So you know
[1:22:28] that obviously you're looking
[1:22:28] at us.
[1:22:31] >> a moment in time and every
[1:22:32] time you come back into the
[1:22:35] moment can. But you don't, you
[1:22:35] know, and understand the
[1:22:36] history like some of the
[1:22:37] people to my right who were
[1:22:39] here to watch, you know, a
[1:22:44] shopping center. Be built and
[1:22:45] then a grocery store. Given
[1:22:51] you better. A grocery store.
[1:22:51] Close and the been the whole
[1:22:53] open because across the street
[1:22:58] a Walmart was demolished and a
[1:22:58] huge public says. But I mean,
[1:23:01] so many things have happened
[1:23:02] where you're right. It was
[1:23:03] very concentrated. And then
[1:23:04] things have been repurposed to
[1:23:09] reconstruct it in then those
[1:23:10] former business is very
[1:23:11] successful. Moved even saw
[1:23:12] exactly what you're saying.
[1:23:17] Guess I always look at this.
[1:23:19] Problem because that's what
[1:23:20] this is planning problem. Why
[1:23:23] wasn't this community plan
[1:23:24] better? I really have an issue
[1:23:24] with planners. You know, they
[1:23:26] have they have the title, but
[1:23:27] I just haven't seen them show
[1:23:32] up yet. You know, they they
[1:23:33] seem to, you know, map out an
[1:23:34] area and say, well, this is
[1:23:34] where things are going to go.
[1:23:35] But obviously they don't have
[1:23:36] a crystal ball. But at this
[1:23:41] stage of the game. And I will
[1:23:42] use back as an example. Guess
[1:23:43] what, they're planning that
[1:23:45] community really? Well. They
[1:23:46] know where the commercial
[1:23:47] should be. They know how much
[1:23:50] there should be and the the
[1:23:51] years of experience and
[1:23:53] knowledge are now being
[1:23:57] actually put to to work and it
[1:23:59] is working. But I guess the
[1:23:59] plans that we were working off
[1:24:03] from the 60's. Really not
[1:24:05] thinking about, you know, the
[1:24:06] amount of growth that was
[1:24:07] going to occur are the are the
[1:24:08] streets properly wide enough
[1:24:12] for future growth. And again,
[1:24:15] right where the nodes for
[1:24:15] Beaver communities, every
[1:24:16] single going to be one huge
[1:24:17] thing ever is going to drive
[1:24:19] there. No, it doesn't make any
[1:24:21] sense. You need to have a
[1:24:23] neighborhood facilities. So
[1:24:23] folks can, you know, pretty
[1:24:24] much just a local until they
[1:24:26] need something very special.
[1:24:27] They take special trip or
[1:24:30] they're going for the service
[1:24:32] activity or, you know, go to
[1:24:33] the beach, go someplace where
[1:24:34] they can't get it in their
[1:24:35] backyard. But I fascinating. I
[1:24:41] mean, it really did
[1:24:42] >> So clock has done a very
[1:24:47] good No, no, if ands or buts
[1:24:47] about that. It's one thing,
[1:24:48] though, to design a town that
[1:24:49] you create from scratch,
[1:24:52] right, for for 40,000 people
[1:24:53] for says something that you
[1:24:53] trying to manage for a future
[1:24:56] of 500,000 people and where
[1:24:57] they can make all the
[1:24:57] decisions in they own the
[1:24:58] land. They can do whatever
[1:25:00] they want. You don't. And so
[1:25:02] planners plan, but developers
[1:25:06] develop and and
[1:25:07] >> Comm. Constance: But
[1:25:07] they're planning and
[1:25:08] developing at the same time.
[1:25:08] So they have that opportunity
[1:25:10] and they don't want any
[1:25:10] leakage. They want everything
[1:25:11] to stay with him because
[1:25:13] chances are good that they own
[1:25:14] most of the commercial
[1:25:15] property. They they want to
[1:25:19] keep those. Those revenues
[1:25:20] coming in. So they're making
[1:25:21] sure that people don't ever
[1:25:21] leave Babcock to get
[1:25:25] everything they need right
[1:25:25] there. So I just find it. You
[1:25:26] know, that's kind of how
[1:25:27] things should have been set up
[1:25:29] because you don't want folks
[1:25:33] burning right foot.
[1:25:34] >> Well, and hopefully meant
[1:25:35] that I could just so bad.
[1:25:35] Hoping that actually serves
[1:25:37] community around it, right?
[1:25:38] Hopefully they'll get some
[1:25:38] medical facilities and people
[1:25:39] then we'll have to come all
[1:25:42] the way in. And I can't
[1:25:43] imagine someone staying alive
[1:25:45] on the track from from back
[1:25:46] out all the way here in some
[1:25:46] sort of major emergency. They
[1:25:48] need medical emergency out
[1:25:52] there. That's nothing against
[1:25:53] our public safety officials.
[1:25:54] And But it's just it's so far
[1:25:58] the roads get so congested and
[1:25:58] we just we don't the
[1:25:59] population. But I'm hoping
[1:26:00] that that clock is actually
[1:26:05] center for that whole area to
[1:26:06] serve the that the needs
[1:26:07] because it's an ideal note
[1:26:07] concentration of the
[1:26:11] commercial in population.
[1:26:12] Thank Commissioner Constance.
[1:26:13] Just say we all know the
[1:26:16] history of Charlotte County.
[1:26:17] >> General Development want to
[1:26:18] sell lots. We have hundreds of
[1:26:21] thousands of platted. Lots. It
[1:26:22] was $10 down $10 a month. And
[1:26:26] you buy a lot. And get your
[1:26:27] slice of the Florida sunshine
[1:26:28] in Charlotte County for Blue
[1:26:30] collar worker up north. It's
[1:26:31] not a master-planned community
[1:26:35] like Babcock, you know, which,
[1:26:35] you know, started what, 15
[1:26:37] years ago whenever was 20
[1:26:37] years ago. So, yeah, that's
[1:26:39] that's the reason that Port
[1:26:44] Charlotte was not planned out.
[1:26:45] >> Like Babcock was planned
[1:26:45] out all the new newer
[1:26:46] communities are planned out in
[1:26:47] a look at these things.
[1:26:49] >> Because planning has gotten
[1:26:52] much better since the 1950's
[1:26:52] and 60's and, you know, had to
[1:26:53] use some of those planning
[1:26:55] tools back then. Yeah, we
[1:26:58] probably wouldn't have some of
[1:26:58] these issues like we have with
[1:26:59] the access roads off of 41.
[1:27:01] It's a mess. It's just a
[1:27:05] complete mess. And you know,
[1:27:06] our board and future boards
[1:27:06] are going to have to deal with
[1:27:07] unpacking on winding and
[1:27:08] trying to fix it. And that's
[1:27:10] why we have a future land use
[1:27:11] map. You know that accounts
[1:27:13] for, you know, the changing
[1:27:14] environment, you know, so when
[1:27:16] applications come forward,
[1:27:17] look to the future land use
[1:27:21] map, you know. Because the
[1:27:22] growth is changing and we MAY
[1:27:22] have to change with it in
[1:27:25] terms of those zoning
[1:27:26] decisions. Just like we're
[1:27:26] hearing today, you know, you
[1:27:27] need more commercial here. You
[1:27:28] need more this over there.
[1:27:29] And, you know, we look that
[1:27:31] are comp plan. Commissioner,
[1:27:34] recognized, sir. Thank MR.
[1:27:35] CHAIRMAN. Yeah. So it was
[1:27:36] counties no different than the
[1:27:41] county and was that was over
[1:27:42] there.
[1:27:42] >> He got all of you. The
[1:27:43] state would you got all South
[1:27:44] Gulf Cove. But then you also
[1:27:45] had Capital Corporation came
[1:27:48] into the same thing for
[1:27:49] Rotunda all the outlying areas
[1:27:52] of Rotunda and Cape Haze. But
[1:27:53] that's why it was important
[1:27:56] that we we did the Lamar
[1:27:57] Replatting and the North and
[1:27:57] the South Gulf Cove because
[1:27:59] they made that area a little
[1:28:03] bit easy to get around in.
[1:28:04] It's more of a community so
[1:28:05] that North and South Gulf Cove
[1:28:06] that all got rezoned. So you
[1:28:10] got Harbor Western Harbour
[1:28:10] East right? And that I think
[1:28:11] was a good change. And those
[1:28:12] are things that we need to
[1:28:12] modify to at times when we
[1:28:16] look at people gobbling up
[1:28:17] land and being able to modify
[1:28:18] and maybe make it more
[1:28:19] efficient for us for the
[1:28:21] future. But you look at
[1:28:24] Westport mean Westport was a s
[1:28:26] and I didn't like it that the
[1:28:26] government battle the property
[1:28:27] back then, but we have a
[1:28:28] better outcome today. Hoping
[1:28:31] never do it again. It will
[1:28:32] that that's a great point. So
[1:28:34] we took over 1000 acres of
[1:28:35] land. Will the commission did
[1:28:39] back in 2004? And there was a
[1:28:40] couple of 1000 platted. Lots
[1:28:41] of what do you have now? You
[1:28:42] have commercial notes there.
[1:28:43] There's going to be a Publix.
[1:28:44] They're all those services to
[1:28:47] keep the trips internal.
[1:28:48] >> Comm. Tiseo: And then you
[1:28:49] have a plane community. You
[1:28:49] have, you know, all the
[1:28:50] services they're I think is a
[1:28:52] dog park. There's other things
[1:28:53] there and it's built around
[1:28:56] one of our regional parks. So
[1:28:57] that's an example of good
[1:28:58] planning taken into account
[1:29:00] commercial that's ongoing
[1:29:01] right now. I don't want to say
[1:29:02] it's a mini Babcock, but it's
[1:29:04] got certain elements, you
[1:29:05] know, the same type of
[1:29:08] planning. Thank you,
[1:29:09] Commissioner track stole my
[1:29:10] thunder cause. I was going to
[1:29:13] bring up Westport and that
[1:29:14] that.
[1:29:14] >> And I do that politics of
[1:29:15] buying those like I was
[1:29:16] actually here in 2002, 2003,
[1:29:20] when you lie to the study
[1:29:21] recommending this and that
[1:29:22] that to a lot of hard times,
[1:29:25] the Great Recession and 5
[1:29:26] other things. But it really
[1:29:26] has turned into a vibrant
[1:29:27] area. And I would encourage
[1:29:30] you that that's a very, pretty
[1:29:32] nice new area. But I would are
[1:29:35] you that? Well, it wouldn't be
[1:29:41] Westport. I hit by encouraging
[1:29:43] and someone having intestinal
[1:29:44] fortitude to gather some lots
[1:29:47] around the West area where
[1:29:49] future I'm sorry, the north,
[1:29:50] the military, especially end
[1:29:51] and actually the southern part
[1:29:54] of west to create these these
[1:29:55] commercial centers. I'm not
[1:29:55] bragging. I think it's a it's
[1:29:58] your job. Your the government,
[1:29:59] but we should be encouraging
[1:30:01] someone to do the aggregation.
[1:30:02] The if you do this, you're
[1:30:03] likely to get commercial uses
[1:30:03] the things these people need
[1:30:04] to hear to cut down on on
[1:30:07] trips and so forth so we can
[1:30:09] improve our planning, if you
[1:30:11] will. I know it's frustrating.
[1:30:11] Say why wasn't done right to
[1:30:15] begin with others? A lot of
[1:30:16] competing interests. We also
[1:30:17] don't know the land like but
[1:30:17] only developer doesn't have
[1:30:20] full control over things. It's
[1:30:21] a challenge and I'm just glad
[1:30:22] that, you know, we have a
[1:30:27] board that recognizes that and
[1:30:28] is open to ideas because it's
[1:30:29] exciting. Some of the things
[1:30:31] 15 happen here. I would like
[1:30:35] to see you at least consider
[1:30:37] the idea of the adding some
[1:30:37] multifamily to some of your
[1:30:38] larger commercial centers.
[1:30:39] That MAY be are doing so well
[1:30:41] in and it's not your fault
[1:30:42] that that the units haven't
[1:30:44] gone over at the mall. I'm
[1:30:45] dying for that to happen when
[1:30:48] those first 300 units going,
[1:30:50] it won't happen overnight. But
[1:30:51] when get in a couple of years,
[1:30:51] the area will just the whole
[1:30:52] feeling will start to change
[1:30:57] and you'll have this
[1:30:58] synergistic redevelopment I'm
[1:31:01] just itching waiting for that
[1:31:02] to happen. We have plans
[1:31:03] outside of that thing. We
[1:31:04] think you're going to see
[1:31:06] actually a grocery store show
[1:31:07] up in there. At some point it
[1:31:07] might only be in all. These
[1:31:09] are something we think that
[1:31:10] that could be a very important
[1:31:14] hub over there.
[1:31:14] >> Comm. Tiseo: Look, this
[1:31:15] this board approved compact
[1:31:16] growth mixed use. You know, we
[1:31:18] went out and we made the
[1:31:20] changes. We work with economic
[1:31:21] development. We work with
[1:31:22] staff to look at those things.
[1:31:23] It's up to the free market to
[1:31:27] take advantage of it. We don't
[1:31:27] have control. We can set the
[1:31:28] table which I think we did.
[1:31:30] But the free markets have to
[1:31:31] the applicant and do that. We
[1:31:32] can't. As you said earlier, we
[1:31:36] can't make the markets spend
[1:31:36] their money right. And I read
[1:31:41] and then Fortune article last
[1:31:41] night that multi-faith
[1:31:42] vacancies are hitting new high
[1:31:44] for this whole area in General
[1:31:49] Naples made up some sort of
[1:31:50] national.
[1:31:51] >> top 10 list of places that
[1:31:53] had higher vacancies. And in
[1:31:54] Fort Myers, City of Fort Myers
[1:31:55] did as well. So it's not gonna
[1:31:59] happen tomorrow, but I think
[1:32:00] in next 4 or 5 years, it's a
[1:32:01] real possibility. We could we
[1:32:02] could see renewed activity at
[1:32:05] that. But that location
[1:32:06] hopefully sooner hopefully
[1:32:07] we'll historically the markets
[1:32:07] are cyclical. We know that. So
[1:32:10] we're gonna have our ups and
[1:32:12] downs, right? But both now
[1:32:13] being title in someplace.
[1:32:13] Hopefully the title as sun set
[1:32:15] out on this because we want to
[1:32:16] see that item c for 500. You
[1:32:19] show up at that mall. Back to
[1:32:23] this. This chart here just for
[1:32:23] a second. So we'll the
[1:32:24] industrial with a lower tier
[1:32:25] of Lee and Martin have 3% of
[1:32:27] development or there taxes
[1:32:29] coming from industrial love to
[1:32:32] see more of that again. I know
[1:32:36] you Your kings can't control
[1:32:36] everything but it given the
[1:32:39] opportunity. Let's let's
[1:32:40] promote more industrial and
[1:32:41] commercial. Not just
[1:32:41] commercial commercial say, but
[1:32:44] in the right places and
[1:32:45] employment centers. Of course,
[1:32:49] you want to promote those. So
[1:32:51] again, a clean, we think going
[1:32:51] to see another million square
[1:32:52] feet of industrial show up,
[1:32:56] which is a real positive what
[1:32:58] rhymes with amendment 3 as
[1:33:01] amendment 3 South Amendment 3
[1:33:03] passes. Commercial industrial
[1:33:06] properties are going to even
[1:33:07] more valuable. That's where
[1:33:08] more of they'll tax base can
[1:33:13] come from. With all this said
[1:33:14] you could your ratio right
[1:33:15] now. And the beginning had of
[1:33:18] myself is 30 square feet per
[1:33:20] capita, again of the much
[1:33:21] lower you're only one square
[1:33:22] foot away from Collier. But
[1:33:23] Collier is not exactly known
[1:33:25] for wanting to do a lot of
[1:33:26] industrial space with us
[1:33:27] having this really nice
[1:33:29] airport right here. I think
[1:33:30] it's a it's a jewel. We can
[1:33:31] really, you know, it's our
[1:33:34] anchor sites let's build
[1:33:34] around it and build it up so
[1:33:37] that it can be a The close
[1:33:40] proximity to 75 in moving
[1:33:42] freight. They're all all
[1:33:43] wonderful things with that
[1:33:45] said the sea, you have even
[1:33:46] more land. That's it's light
[1:33:49] about 3 from think MR.
[1:33:50] Johnson, a quick yeah. This
[1:33:51] industry slide where it says
[1:33:51] what you think the man is
[1:33:56] going to be.
[1:33:56] >> Comm. Constance: You're
[1:33:57] giving me the numerator.
[1:33:58] What's the denominator? What's
[1:33:58] the current amount of acreage
[1:34:02] in each one of these zones?
[1:34:07] >> There's had that column. I
[1:34:09] I'll get that to you. Is a get
[1:34:10] them you have it. So you have
[1:34:11] about 7 million, I think,
[1:34:15] square feet. If you recall so
[1:34:16] 7.8 million or something, I
[1:34:17] think 7.8 million square feet,
[1:34:18] Just in other words, you just
[1:34:21] you giving us the acreage that
[1:34:22] would be demanded. You can
[1:34:24] just get us. What is the
[1:34:25] current I mean, some of them
[1:34:26] might be over. My some of
[1:34:26] them. Maybe wait well above
[1:34:29] the current level.
[1:34:30] >> But in future, it won't be
[1:34:32] in right per capita But the
[1:34:33] industry is completed. The
[1:34:34] airport has way more
[1:34:35] industrial on a per capita
[1:34:37] basis. But it's not about
[1:34:38] people that's more about
[1:34:40] employment and stars. You
[1:34:41] categorize inverted ports as
[1:34:44] commercial or industrial.
[1:34:49] >> we don't have those yet.
[1:34:49] So.
[1:34:50] >> I get that. But if there's
[1:34:51] a demand for with deputy
[1:34:52] categorizes can Tecnico 20 in
[1:34:53] that in the department these
[1:34:54] codes for airports of such as
[1:34:57] an industrial
[1:34:57] >> So that I could understand
[1:35:00] and those those will be
[1:35:00] popping up wherever it's
[1:35:01] logistically possible without
[1:35:05] power lines. But they can be
[1:35:06] almost anywhere. And this is
[1:35:07] not me say this. Reporting the
[1:35:08] facts don't shoot the
[1:35:09] messenger, but technically
[1:35:11] many stories also industrial,
[1:35:12] if you because it's a place
[1:35:17] where warehousing. Okay. Thank
[1:35:20] you
[1:35:25] >> okay. This this good graph
[1:35:25] is not mine
[1:35:26] >> Jordan over an economic
[1:35:26] development. Don't really help
[1:35:28] to develop this for me for
[1:35:29] this presentation. It is
[1:35:31] updated. The numbers are
[1:35:32] slightly different. We note
[1:35:34] that the top in the green
[1:35:35] industry be 2% of our of of
[1:35:40] our employment base it you've
[1:35:41] heard battle of some brand not
[1:35:41] not being paid and not wearing
[1:35:43] a t-shirt and hear that. All
[1:35:46] right. Get sponsorship or
[1:35:47] anything. But Cheney brothers,
[1:35:48] we but we want to see more of
[1:35:50] that type of of of
[1:35:51] development. You know, there's
[1:35:55] 550 jobs over there. And if I
[1:35:56] skip ahead, we get into
[1:35:56] multipliers and something with
[1:35:57] a site for the jobs they bring
[1:36:01] in almost another 1000 jobs in
[1:36:02] terms of and if all the way
[1:36:04] from your teller, 2 waitresses
[1:36:05] to your car, mechanics of that
[1:36:08] people do ac carpet stores and
[1:36:11] all those things. So we want
[1:36:12] to see more of that type of
[1:36:15] developing around the airport
[1:36:16] and what's great about she is
[1:36:17] it really doesn't depend on
[1:36:19] how your local economy's
[1:36:19] doing. They're selling ketchup
[1:36:20] and mustard napkins all over
[1:36:21] southwest Florida. And so
[1:36:24] you're benefiting and all
[1:36:25] those dollars foreign from
[1:36:28] wages come back here and then
[1:36:28] it spent looking the economy.
[1:36:30] Want more of that going on.
[1:36:35] Commissioner checks? 2
[1:36:35] appointed.
[1:36:36] >> Comm. Truex: The public's
[1:36:36] has a piece of property out
[1:36:40] there as well. Yes, and so,
[1:36:41] you know, the number of Publix
[1:36:42] stores that are going to be
[1:36:43] built both in Westport First
[1:36:44] or road. The regional one
[1:36:47] Inglewood right now making it
[1:36:48] much larger, much more, you
[1:36:52] know, updated facility. Might
[1:36:52] make sense for them to start
[1:36:55] looking at actually building a
[1:36:55] facility because it's in the
[1:36:56] middle of so many stores. Now,
[1:36:58] not just Charlotte County,
[1:36:59] obviously, but for their
[1:37:00] future. So I could see them
[1:37:04] doing that next 5
[1:37:05] >> But got one of the creek
[1:37:06] don't rise. I mean, they they
[1:37:07] want they buy 25 years ago. It
[1:37:10] was a long time was a major
[1:37:10] capital investment. They made
[1:37:11] very bright, though, to being
[1:37:14] at the airport in a good
[1:37:15] location. That company really
[1:37:16] thinks forward. I really
[1:37:17] respect him for that. But I
[1:37:19] also but okay, 3rd is nice,
[1:37:20] but let's get some building in
[1:37:21] some jobs going on here, too.
[1:37:22] And, you know, with all the
[1:37:24] new store is going in and
[1:37:25] Charlotte Lee and Collier
[1:37:26] counties, this of make an
[1:37:31] excellent location for to
[1:37:31] locate that. And since that
[1:37:32] work in all 3 jurisdictions
[1:37:34] for the Mpo is if you guys
[1:37:35] would like to store demands, I
[1:37:36] can provide those to you. If
[1:37:38] you want to market the Publix.
[1:37:43] Free of here's a breakdown
[1:37:46] actually from last year of
[1:37:48] what's what you it. So it does
[1:37:51] can be sort of a hard sell an
[1:37:54] average year about 28300,000
[1:37:55] acre, as you know, most houses
[1:37:56] are assessed and that you have
[1:37:59] more of those per acre. But
[1:37:59] the difference is that people
[1:38:02] need things in industrial
[1:38:02] commercial generally don't
[1:38:06] need a lot of services. And so
[1:38:07] we get back to this. Fiscal
[1:38:10] issues and fiscal neutrality,
[1:38:11] both commercial industry that
[1:38:12] really the keys to that. And
[1:38:13] there's a bullet point right
[1:38:16] above the table that the
[1:38:18] industrial and generate some
[1:38:19] 1000 times, the revenue of ag
[1:38:19] land. And so some of that, I'd
[1:38:20] like to see some of the ag
[1:38:23] land around the airport area
[1:38:27] converted to industrial uses.
[1:38:28] So here is not a bill similar
[1:38:29] to the commercial shows you at
[1:38:31] 30 square foot on a per capita
[1:38:32] basis. Then you compare to
[1:38:34] look at these others and that
[1:38:35] this doesn't happen overnight.
[1:38:37] You don't snap your fingers,
[1:38:38] but there is absolutely room
[1:38:40] for you. Do it for you to grow
[1:38:43] your intensity. If Michael,
[1:38:45] for you would be 55 and I'm
[1:38:47] one of those of those mindsets
[1:38:49] that we do have to reach 55 to
[1:38:51] be successful, I think reach
[1:38:52] for 55 if we hit 45, which is
[1:38:55] 50% more per cap. And you have
[1:38:56] now, I still think that's a
[1:38:58] home run in terms of tax base,
[1:38:58] jobs, all the things come with
[1:39:04] that. If you wanted to reach
[1:39:06] 55 to 45. So in 45 you need
[1:39:07] another about 450 acres. In
[1:39:08] addition to what you have now,
[1:39:11] that zone industrial to make
[1:39:12] that happen in minutes, all
[1:39:17] developed and such and again,
[1:39:18] I recognize you have probably
[1:39:20] a lot of petitions asking for
[1:39:21] different things. You are the
[1:39:22] ones that the balance, the
[1:39:23] competing interests. I'm just
[1:39:26] looking at the numbers and
[1:39:27] saying will made no political
[1:39:28] difference. I'd love to see
[1:39:30] more industrial lands.
[1:39:31] Commissioner Constance and
[1:39:37] this is have you. So in the
[1:39:38] northern part cap, but there's
[1:39:39] quite a bit of wetlands. And
[1:39:43] so that sort of degrades the
[1:39:45] the utility in the usability
[1:39:45] of the land makes it more
[1:39:46] difficult to to build around
[1:39:49] so forth. South south of the
[1:39:49] airport is some pretty
[1:39:53] gorgeous stuff. It's it's
[1:39:54] disturbed if you will. So it's
[1:39:57] easier to permit news.
[1:39:58] >> And I think it's it is
[1:40:05] >> You're my It is already
[1:40:05] leading self into the Jones
[1:40:06] Loop area which is part of the
[1:40:09] cap, but proximate to it that
[1:40:11] I think more will see some
[1:40:12] more conversion. Right? And I
[1:40:13] think you're already doing
[1:40:13] this, but I would be remiss if
[1:40:17] I didn't say so when we have
[1:40:18] more industry happens down
[1:40:19] there normally and get talked
[1:40:24] about planner, In the 60's.
[1:40:25] The rules were thou shalt not
[1:40:26] have commercial industrial
[1:40:26] anywhere near people that have
[1:40:27] those who said because those
[1:40:28] are those are incompatible
[1:40:29] uses. And I get with that.
[1:40:32] That theory came from. But
[1:40:32] then the problems that we
[1:40:36] have, driving in between that
[1:40:36] and so where where it's
[1:40:37] appropriate were can be
[1:40:39] designed, right? I'd love to
[1:40:40] see some multifamily Putin
[1:40:41] with some of that in the
[1:40:42] industrial so that we don't
[1:40:43] have the workers driving long
[1:40:44] distances that they don't have
[1:40:45] to, especially with Walmart in
[1:40:46] it.
[1:40:50] >> Tell you.
[1:40:50] >> Walmart, Publix, all these
[1:40:51] and a whole bunch of can name
[1:40:54] of the stores. Just saw him
[1:40:55] online to polio. That's
[1:40:59] wonderful place to live. Now
[1:41:00] and to be great that more
[1:41:01] people living there that can
[1:41:02] take advantage and patronize
[1:41:05] those businesses. Just more
[1:41:09] talking about it. As increase
[1:41:11] the industry allocation, we
[1:41:12] could be more competitive with
[1:41:13] each other. These other
[1:41:13] counties without naming
[1:41:17] counties. But it sounds like
[1:41:18] that think those 2 other ones,
[1:41:19] they have a lot of wetland
[1:41:20] issues on their lands, a very
[1:41:23] familiar with their with their
[1:41:23] entitlements are not entitled,
[1:41:25] let's but their allocations of
[1:41:26] industrial lands. You guys
[1:41:29] have some of the best. Land
[1:41:31] available for communities on
[1:41:35] industrial now, but for
[1:41:36] industrial uses, it's it's
[1:41:37] it's brittle, barely permit.
[1:41:41] W's will close to 75 northward
[1:41:42] is also close to 75. But it's
[1:41:43] it's it's intensely. What if
[1:41:46] you look at it not being well
[1:41:48] as scientists, but you can see
[1:41:50] from the aerial that did the
[1:41:53] trees. There are likely well
[1:41:54] into nature. The last slide
[1:41:56] here. But results I just that
[1:41:57] the p#
[1:41:57] #
[1:41:57] #
[1:41:57] #
[1:41:58] Gorda know, you know
[1:42:00] this, I will ask that you guys
[1:42:01] have. And let's let's build on
[1:42:03] that because it really is like
[1:42:04] Sears used to be don't. All
[1:42:07] right. The big the anchor and
[1:42:08] we can build around that and
[1:42:09] in amount of employment that
[1:42:09] we can be created is just
[1:42:16] enormous. Last last 2 slides
[1:42:17] here. So just to repeat. So
[1:42:19] you've had 26,000 housing
[1:42:20] units and 50,000 new residents
[1:42:24] show up since the census with
[1:42:25] that has come a declaration in
[1:42:30] and lows of service no, it
[1:42:31] doesn't hit a good time,
[1:42:32] especially looking at how
[1:42:34] attacks of us might change and
[1:42:37] such. It's important, though,
[1:42:37] to value, especially our
[1:42:38] public safety are our sheriff
[1:42:41] in our our our fire
[1:42:42] departments, ems, and making
[1:42:42] sure they have the right play
[1:42:45] the right facilities in right
[1:42:46] locations allow them to do
[1:42:47] their jobs and reach reach the
[1:42:48] people in a program out of
[1:42:52] time. We want to monitor so
[1:42:53] the aggregate amount of
[1:42:54] commercial. So the agger
[1:42:58] amount of commercial is is one
[1:42:59] thing. But especially want to
[1:43:00] make sure it's in the right
[1:43:01] place. That's when Santa than
[1:43:02] in the northern part humid
[1:43:03] cluster in the southern part
[1:43:05] of your West Cluster, that
[1:43:09] caucus taken care of itself.
[1:43:10] We'd like to see more
[1:43:11] commercial and only like one
[1:43:11] acre lots. 51 acre. Lots is
[1:43:14] not the same thing is even 20
[1:43:15] acres of developable land. We
[1:43:16] can locate some of these
[1:43:20] services. Planning shopping
[1:43:22] centers by locations. Please
[1:43:24] use that map in in your when
[1:43:27] you're looking at to
[1:43:28] deliberating whether approve a
[1:43:28] project. Not that map again,
[1:43:29] some parcels specific, but it
[1:43:30] shows you where those where
[1:43:30] those facilities are needed.
[1:43:34] And it's also critical to
[1:43:37] reserve land for our future.
[1:43:37] Sheriff sub stations, fire
[1:43:39] stations, parks, those sorts
[1:43:40] of things. I know we've heard
[1:43:41] from of libraries and parks
[1:43:44] and their master plans and and
[1:43:45] and more lands are needed for
[1:43:47] them, at least reservation, if
[1:43:51] not, if not plan, purchase.
[1:43:52] Hears just same for the 3rd
[1:43:56] time. Guy Committee consider
[1:43:57] policy change. That would add
[1:43:58] some density to some of these
[1:43:59] older commercial facilities
[1:44:00] that are tired, maybe have
[1:44:01] space is not needed in
[1:44:02] location where they were
[1:44:03] greatly needed in that
[1:44:04] whenever they were built.
[1:44:06] Today's a different day. Now
[1:44:07] we need when we have
[1:44:07] dilapidated commercial
[1:44:09] commercial, it's not
[1:44:10] economically viable. It's
[1:44:12] because number of people put
[1:44:14] more people in that area, it's
[1:44:14] helps balance that that whole
[1:44:17] equation now. Updating this
[1:44:18] model is is I believe helpful.
[1:44:19] Do you guys you guys in the in
[1:44:23] the in given session probably
[1:44:25] make between 10, 15 million
[1:44:26] dollars with the decisions in
[1:44:27] this I believe is it is
[1:44:28] helpful to make just one right
[1:44:32] decision from it. It pays for
[1:44:35] itself. With that, I'm going
[1:44:36] to go off the rails for just a
[1:44:38] second to last year we able to
[1:44:39] successfully challenge Beaver.
[1:44:41] One beaver came out your your
[1:44:43] population number. We were
[1:44:44] able to conclusively show the
[1:44:45] state revise their data to our
[1:44:47] number that we are able to
[1:44:50] prove. I believe that I can't
[1:44:51] prove that, but talking
[1:44:52] finance people. I think that
[1:44:53] that it's somewhere between 3
[1:44:55] 500,000 permit revenue per
[1:44:57] year. But by by winning that
[1:44:59] argument, having updated data,
[1:45:00] we are cocked and loaded ready
[1:45:00] for when the letter comes in
[1:45:03] next 10 days to see them and
[1:45:04] maybe nothing's needed. But we
[1:45:06] are ready to support you and
[1:45:07] make sure you get your fair
[1:45:10] share. Don't worry, sir, your
[1:45:14] contract still in place. See
[1:45:16] where you're going there.
[1:45:16] Well, the uk for ourselves,
[1:45:19] but our data is Craig. The
[1:45:20] date is credible. The state
[1:45:21] didn't roll over. That was a
[1:45:21] whole bunch of e-mails. Ben
[1:45:26] can tell I do want to say that
[1:45:27] I love what I do for a living
[1:45:28] I think appreciate you. I
[1:45:29] would not have a job without
[1:45:32] you and I'm sincerely grateful
[1:45:33] any other questions. I'm happy
[1:45:34] to answer any questions.
[1:45:38] Farmer.
[1:45:39] Constance. Yeah, I just want
[1:45:39] pick up things. So you're
[1:45:43] 2030, data point. We're
[1:45:46] getting closer. So how?
[1:45:47] Confident are you in that?
[1:45:51] Because that's still
[1:45:52] predictive. I mean, the slow
[1:45:53] could go go a little. Go back
[1:45:59] to the dots. The coupon.
[1:46:04] >> land right.
[1:46:04] >> So first blue dot is the
[1:46:09] current is that the current
[1:46:10] data?
[1:46:12] >> No, for get it was because
[1:46:14] that's before I guess it looks
[1:46:15] like get this So you're you're
[1:46:16] saying you think things are
[1:46:16] going to slow down by
[1:46:20] twenty-thirty? What if they
[1:46:21] don't?
[1:46:21] >> What if you have a of a
[1:46:22] similar s#
[1:46:22] #
[1:46:22] #
[1:46:22] #
[1:46:22] and you come
[1:46:25] back to us in 2 years ago,
[1:46:26] guys, we we tried to stay
[1:46:26] conservative and we goofed
[1:46:29] again. And actually it's it's
[1:46:32] still creep. So that's a
[1:46:33] possibility. Not only a
[1:46:34] possibility, please don't fire
[1:46:38] me.
[1:46:39] >> But I will tell you that we
[1:46:39] did not use. Are we do not
[1:46:40] take Dotson, rulers and
[1:46:44] pencils and draw a straight
[1:46:44] line. So Europe, he permitting
[1:46:45] it was around. 5500 units i
[1:46:48] think was something like that.
[1:46:49] You're down in the 30 to 3300
[1:46:53] units per year. When I went
[1:46:54] back, we don't use that to
[1:46:55] build the models but went
[1:46:56] back, went back and took the
[1:46:59] housing units and did the
[1:47:00] math. We are. We are right at
[1:47:01] the your current level of
[1:47:02] permitting. So if you're
[1:47:03] permitting, happens to go up
[1:47:03] from here, yeah, numbers are
[1:47:06] going to be low. What I wanted
[1:47:07] to was expected to go the
[1:47:10] direction you want. Most
[1:47:11] people are like, oh, you could
[1:47:12] that that there's nowhere near
[1:47:13] that number going to show up.
[1:47:14] And I'm like, I'm positive.
[1:47:15] That's not people. They're
[1:47:16] going to show short of some
[1:47:17] major major recession popping
[1:47:19] out of nowhere. This is like a
[1:47:20] minimum. And to your point,
[1:47:23] sir, yes. 20,000 more people
[1:47:26] could show up. Will they? I
[1:47:28] don't know. I think that when
[1:47:28] I look at all of your
[1:47:30] permitting over the last 30
[1:47:31] years, I look back at the
[1:47:34] Great Recession. My stomach
[1:47:35] gets upset and I look at, you
[1:47:36] know, permitting for 5 pounds
[1:47:37] a year compared to permit and
[1:47:42] 5,000 a year I still I still
[1:47:43] think you're I think you're in
[1:47:44] a linear phase of about 3,3500
[1:47:47] permits a year what will
[1:47:48] change is when Westport builds
[1:47:50] out and inland Babcock. I
[1:47:51] think by that time the fire
[1:47:54] will have caught and your your
[1:47:57] your your platted lots will
[1:47:59] then maintain that velocity
[1:48:01] for years to come. Move ahead
[1:48:01] to 2, 3, sides of the bar
[1:48:02] charts for the housing and
[1:48:03] then the population. The
[1:48:06] portraits. Yeah. Ahead.
[1:48:10] >> Forward forward forward
[1:48:11] yet. So what you know, you
[1:48:14] said Babcock You have
[1:48:15] increased that you have more
[1:48:18] people in the housing units.
[1:48:18] Same thing with Mid County,
[1:48:19] West County, not so much you
[1:48:24] mentioned, but all that Mid
[1:48:25] County, the West Ports and the
[1:48:26] backpack. There's a very
[1:48:26] there's a real similarity
[1:48:27] because both of them, when you
[1:48:29] see those housing units on the
[1:48:30] next slide, the population
[1:48:31] jumps up for both of those and
[1:48:34] everything else is down. So
[1:48:35] that was interesting that
[1:48:37] that, again, there's more
[1:48:38] people per unit. Is that what
[1:48:39] you're saying? So so this
[1:48:41] because the multifamily or I
[1:48:42] don't. I think I think it's
[1:48:45] more families, not not not
[1:48:45] single or multi family, but
[1:48:46] the but the character of who's
[1:48:47] choosing to live there. And I
[1:48:48] think that clock in mid
[1:48:49] >> Comm. Constance: are
[1:48:54] attracting more families West.
[1:48:55] You look at the areas, it
[1:48:56] looks like their families as
[1:48:57] we see plate. We deeper
[1:48:58] looking people's are looking
[1:48:59] at swing sets. We want to see
[1:49:03] living there right? And so I'm
[1:49:04] surprised by the sense
[1:49:05] demographics are actually
[1:49:09] lower than what it might look
[1:49:10] like. And we are relying on
[1:49:11] census data demographics
[1:49:12] Babcock. We actually get that
[1:49:14] directly from the developer
[1:49:17] from their internal surveys.
[1:49:18] Next slide, those barrier
[1:49:23] island that's could it be that
[1:49:24] those are cook? Those are new
[1:49:25] construction, but could be
[1:49:25] that those houses were
[1:49:26] completely wiped out. And now
[1:49:27] you're building a brand new
[1:49:31] house on a wiped out live.
[1:49:32] >> Absolutely. Not review the
[1:49:33] demo permits. Your apps are
[1:49:33] you absolutely correct. In
[1:49:40] this happening there
[1:49:40] >> Comm. Constance: and then,
[1:49:41] you know, with burnt store
[1:49:42] road, not having enough
[1:49:43] commercial. Remember know if
[1:49:43] we've mentioned this before,
[1:49:44] but a bunch of commercial was
[1:49:46] repurposed as storm water. For
[1:49:49] the road to go And we had a
[1:49:50] very heated conversation in
[1:49:53] these chambers with zoning and
[1:49:54] planning to try to figure out
[1:49:56] why was that done? I never
[1:49:57] think I thought that never
[1:49:57] should have been done. I think
[1:50:00] that never should have been
[1:50:01] allowed. Those areas were set
[1:50:02] up for commercial if they
[1:50:04] wanted to find storm water,
[1:50:05] they needed to find something
[1:50:06] else. But we so now what's
[1:50:07] happening is we're having to
[1:50:10] repurpose residential back to
[1:50:11] commercial. It's crazy, but
[1:50:14] that that that's the situation
[1:50:15] that we're you're, you know,
[1:50:15] that's what you're pointing to
[1:50:17] for the future. It would. Now
[1:50:18] you have a believe 2 parcels
[1:50:20] are 2 groups of parcels down
[1:50:21] there now that there's a newer
[1:50:22] one, I think that was just
[1:50:22] approved for think is that
[1:50:26] 180,000 or something like
[1:50:26] that?
[1:50:27] >> Comm. Constance: And so now
[1:50:27] you you. I think you have the
[1:50:28] lands available now. It's more
[1:50:29] about the developers in the
[1:50:31] money, the financing, getting
[1:50:32] that in and maybe some, but
[1:50:32] they're waiting for us see
[1:50:36] just how those 3 projects are
[1:50:36] progressing. But certainly
[1:50:37] we're going to see more
[1:50:38] commercial down that way. I
[1:50:41] can't speak to why commercial
[1:50:42] and was and maybe that was dot
[1:50:49] and you know, you owe that But
[1:50:49] so then just if you could get
[1:50:50] back to us with commercial
[1:50:51] vacancy rates and industrial
[1:50:55] vacancy rates just so we can
[1:50:56] understand.
[1:50:57] >> I don't really have the
[1:50:57] vacancy rates on that. I have
[1:50:58] that amount of commercial
[1:51:01] square footage and acres. I
[1:51:01] don't have the guts. Isn't
[1:51:02] Doesn't that come into your
[1:51:04] calculus? You say we're we're
[1:51:05] short. But then if the vacancy
[1:51:08] rates are high, then where are
[1:51:09] we?
[1:51:09] >> Well, they can me points
[1:51:12] about the use is not
[1:51:13] necessarily space. All right.
[1:51:14] You see few scenes left data
[1:51:15] places see a different region.
[1:51:17] A move in southern place comes
[1:51:18] to life. Trader Joe's located
[1:51:22] in one of the year blazes that
[1:51:23] was unsuccessful. I guarantee
[1:51:23] that we can on new magnet
[1:51:24] because people want my final
[1:51:27] question is how much?
[1:51:32] >> Are you seeing businesses?
[1:51:33] >> Comm. Constance: Trying to
[1:51:34] build workforce housing on
[1:51:34] their property because I've
[1:51:36] always felt that's the future.
[1:51:37] Are the embracing that?
[1:51:40] Because you brought it up a
[1:51:41] little bit. But for me, it
[1:51:41] makes the most sense that you
[1:51:44] buy 50% more land than you
[1:51:45] think you're going to need for
[1:51:46] your use. And you put in some
[1:51:49] multifamily units for your
[1:51:50] work force. And it's part of
[1:51:51] the package deal. And, you
[1:51:53] know, you can attract folks
[1:51:54] that you can pay them a decent
[1:51:57] wage and not worry about
[1:51:58] commute, not worried about
[1:51:59] them having affordability of
[1:52:00] love to work for you, but i
[1:52:03] can't find place to live.
[1:52:04] >> The 2 groups have seen do
[1:52:05] that for better or worse. Our
[1:52:08] hospitals, healthcare and
[1:52:08] school districts. I'd like see
[1:52:12] more of that. Don. I also
[1:52:13] learned when we see affordable
[1:52:14] housing is only for for 30
[1:52:15] years and like the magic. The
[1:52:16] problem goes away, which it
[1:52:16] doesn't. That's a definition
[1:52:21] for different day. As always.
[1:52:22] Thank you for your time.
[1:52:23] You're not a decision to
[1:52:23] Probably one of the most
[1:52:27] important updates we get is
[1:52:27] Welp you know, floodplain
[1:52:28] better. I think it's important
[1:52:29] to keep the regular updates
[1:52:30] coming so we can keep looking
[1:52:30] for the little things along
[1:52:31] the way. The for become big
[1:52:34] things. Thank you. Thank you,
[1:52:35] Director. Thank you. Do that
[1:52:35] as well. Thank you. Again,
[1:52:38] these are always they're
[1:52:39] enjoyable to go I know for
[1:52:43] some people it MAY be mundane.
[1:52:44] >> Comm. Truex: But like you,
[1:52:44] I love getting into data and I
[1:52:45] find fascinating. And then
[1:52:46] also really does help this
[1:52:47] board with the futures. How we
[1:52:48] continue to change and modify
[1:52:50] for what's coming. So thank
[1:52:55] you, c 2, thank you all very
[1:52:55] much. Yeah, thanks for the
[1:52:56] information. Commissioner
[1:52:57] Constance, I would say whoever
[1:52:57] was on the board during that
[1:53:01] burnt store.
[1:53:02] >> Comm. Tiseo: Land
[1:53:02] acquisition. The board approve
[1:53:03] those purchases. Weather was
[1:53:04] to eminent domain if the board
[1:53:06] didn't want to use that
[1:53:07] particular property for storm
[1:53:08] water, they should have just.
[1:53:11] Denied the purchase. Not
[1:53:13] really. I wasn't here back
[1:53:15] then. But you know, if the
[1:53:19] complaint is the county used
[1:53:19] commercial property for storm
[1:53:21] water. I mean, the board
[1:53:22] approved it doesn't happen in
[1:53:22] a vacuum. So again, I wasn't
[1:53:27] here back then and again,
[1:53:28] thank you the information as
[1:53:29] it is a great planning tool.
[1:53:29] And I would point to our most
[1:53:33] recent budget hearing. Where
[1:53:35] we have our budget divided up
[1:53:38] into 2 big parts operating
[1:53:41] capital. And you can see the
[1:53:42] Capitol part is increasing to
[1:53:44] reflect those infrastructure
[1:53:44] requirements that you're kind
[1:53:45] of talking about in this. I
[1:53:47] think the board recognizes
[1:53:49] that as well you know, going
[1:53:52] for, you know, 20 year sales
[1:53:52] tax period this time. And
[1:53:56] we've we've loaded it with
[1:53:58] items from our cna Capital
[1:53:59] needs assessment to make sure
[1:54:00] we're addressing those things
[1:54:03] for the long term so that that
[1:54:04] was one of the things that
[1:54:06] we're doing as a board
[1:54:07] commissioned or you're
[1:54:07] recognized, sir, they mature.
[1:54:11] And again, thank you very
[1:54:11] much, sir.
[1:54:12] >> keen eye on our building
[1:54:13] permits and CEOs they serve,
[1:54:17] you know, See if shift in
[1:54:18] prevent, you know, because
[1:54:18] that I think that's the data.
[1:54:19] I look at our report. We get
[1:54:21] from community development
[1:54:21] every month. It's hanging
[1:54:24] right in it over 200 CEOs per
[1:54:26] month. That's pretty
[1:54:28] astounding. Yeah, regionally
[1:54:33] speaking, I think pretty.
[1:54:33] >> you're headed to that
[1:54:34] point, like a good quick shed,
[1:54:37] a tear prince. She has been a
[1:54:39] huge asset to us and in
[1:54:40] providing data is very, very
[1:54:41] do our job. She just she, you
[1:54:44] know, has me on Saturday
[1:54:45] Sunday. She's she's a Prince.
[1:54:46] Thank you very much. Thank for
[1:54:50] the comment on the sites are
[1:54:51] MR. Khan Mr, CHAIRMAN On the
[1:54:52] But could we go? Yeah, public
[1:54:52] hearing and yes, I was going
[1:54:53] to say that next. Ok? Thank
[1:54:58] you, sir. Thank you.
[1:54:58] >> Comm. Tiseo: There's no
[1:54:59] objection from the board. I
[1:55:00] wanted to dispense with it too
[1:55:01] adventhealth bond issue. We
[1:55:02] have represent representative
[1:55:04] to the hospital that have been
[1:55:04] here. There's no objection.
[1:55:05] We're gonna go ahead and do
[1:55:07] that. Who is going to present
[1:55:12] on that? Chair? I can. I can t
[1:55:14] up just a couple points on. So
[1:55:16] we have been coined record,
[1:55:19] sir. So I have to Florence
[1:55:20] County administrator, but I
[1:55:21] appreciate their team because
[1:55:22] we've been Corning with
[1:55:23] Adventhealth and their team on
[1:55:24] This pond issue item here is
[1:55:28] required before our
[1:55:29] jurisdiction in which the
[1:55:32] project is located. We the
[1:55:34] county has no liability or
[1:55:35] risk associated with the van
[1:55:35] were helping facilitate the
[1:55:38] hearing and the requested
[1:55:39] resolution and then attending
[1:55:43] in We've got Adam Johnson, ceo
[1:55:44] of Adventhealth and Kaylee,
[1:55:45] Tuck from get Great Robinson
[1:55:46] is a Fort Myers office. The
[1:55:46] thank you for waiting and
[1:55:49] being with us. And then on
[1:55:49] teams. We have Chris Wall
[1:55:52] Wrath and Kristen Wash Hilson
[1:55:55] their bond council with the
[1:55:56] firm of Chapman and Cutler.
[1:55:58] And then I'm going to turn it
[1:55:59] over to Chris. Believe he's
[1:56:01] there on teams and he'll speak
[1:56:03] to the the purpose of the
[1:56:04] hearing and the requested
[1:56:04] resolution approval. So,
[1:56:05] Chris, it's all yours. Thanks
[1:56:07] for weighing about.
[1:56:08] >> No Thank you very much.
[1:56:11] Good morning, everybody. 10%.
[1:56:15] I personally for the records
[1:56:15] up. Sure. Christopher from
[1:56:16] Chapman and Cutler, we are
[1:56:17] fine counsel to Adventhealth.
[1:56:24] Thank you. Okay. Welcome as
[1:56:24] Hector said, the reason for
[1:56:25] the hearing today at the
[1:56:29] request for resolution is
[1:56:30] authorize Adventhealth and
[1:56:31] they're issuing partners. Both
[1:56:32] the Colorado Health Facilities
[1:56:32] Authority and the Highlands
[1:56:35] County Health Facilities,
[1:56:36] Authority to issue tax exempt
[1:56:39] revenue bonds for the system.
[1:56:40] In this case, for the
[1:56:41] facilities that they now own
[1:56:44] in Port Charlotte, the way
[1:56:46] that the federal income tax
[1:56:48] law works in order to go ahead
[1:56:50] and finance something out of
[1:56:51] basis. You need to have public
[1:56:52] hearing and location for all
[1:56:54] the projects are located. And
[1:56:57] so that's the request for this
[1:56:58] hearing today. The materials
[1:57:01] that you have in front of you
[1:57:02] authorize bond in the amount
[1:57:05] up to 400 million dollars each
[1:57:06] program. So 400 million
[1:57:07] dollars for the facilities in
[1:57:10] Port Charlotte over the next 3
[1:57:11] years by the Colorado Health
[1:57:12] Facilities Authority and by
[1:57:15] the Highlands County Health
[1:57:16] Facility Authority. All of
[1:57:17] these issuers have
[1:57:18] cross-border powers and that's
[1:57:20] why we're able to go ahead and
[1:57:21] finance facilities outside of
[1:57:24] Colorado went outside and
[1:57:25] Highlands County with with
[1:57:28] Even though the that that is
[1:57:29] sure doesn't have a prime
[1:57:31] location. And Charlotte
[1:57:34] County, as Hector said,
[1:57:35] there's no liability.
[1:57:36] Charlotte County here this
[1:57:37] hearing is is just for federal
[1:57:40] income tax purposes. Only the
[1:57:41] county's name will be on any
[1:57:45] of the offering documents has
[1:57:47] no liability. You know, with
[1:57:49] respect to this is a very
[1:57:52] common plan that we do across
[1:57:54] the country to get approvals
[1:57:57] like this and greatly
[1:57:58] appreciates the county's
[1:58:00] ability assist us in this
[1:58:01] endeavor and will allow us to
[1:58:04] to finance facilities at Port
[1:58:05] Charlotte Hospital over the
[1:58:05] next several years that I had
[1:58:08] a more cost-effective pace.
[1:58:08] >> Thank you, sir. Any
[1:58:12] questions for open the public?
[1:58:13] Ok, we're hoping to sign up to
[1:58:13] the public. Anybody wishing
[1:58:14] speak on this item. You'll
[1:58:15] have 5 minutes state your name
[1:58:18] for the record. Anybody from
[1:58:19] the public wishing to speak on
[1:58:20] item t to please come forward
[1:58:20] state. Name for the record.
[1:58:22] You have 5 minutes. MR.
[1:58:26] CHAIRMAN, as you know, in
[1:58:26] rising moved close public
[1:58:27] input so that motion second
[1:58:28] close public input. Is there
[1:58:28] any further discussion? There
[1:58:33] any opposition to motion that
[1:58:34] passes unanimously, MR.
[1:58:35] CHAIRMAN with a resolution
[1:58:35] motion resolution. Is there
[1:58:36] any further discussion? There
[1:58:38] any opposition to the motion
[1:58:39] that passes unanimously ok?
[1:58:45] Thank you, sir.
[1:58:45] >> Excellent. Thank you,
[1:58:46] everybody. Thank you. We're
[1:58:47] gonna go back to our regular
[1:58:50] agenda. Item. S 3, 2026 local
[1:58:51] government area of
[1:58:55] opportunity. Missus, Turner,
[1:58:58] you're recognized to present.
[1:59:14] >> Good morning commissioners
[1:59:15] for the record calling Turner
[1:59:15] Charlotte County, Human
[1:59:18] Services. I'm here this
[1:59:19] morning behalf of the
[1:59:21] Affordable Housing Advisory
[1:59:23] Committee presenting to you
[1:59:24] their recommendation for 2026
[1:59:25] local government area of
[1:59:32] opportunity. What is it's a
[1:59:34] method where local government
[1:59:34] is given an opportunity to
[1:59:35] determine where affordable
[1:59:36] housing is located in our
[1:59:40] community. Designed by Florida
[1:59:41] Housing Finance Corporation so
[1:59:42] that we have some skin in the
[1:59:44] game. This is a permanent
[1:59:47] source of funding and each
[1:59:48] local government can come in
[1:59:53] one commitment. Funding. For
[1:59:56] any particular rfa. There are
[1:59:58] several priority goals. The
[2:00:02] Florida House and will fund in
[2:00:03] 2026. And permit ready
[2:00:04] projects are given a priority.
[2:00:08] Boost for each goal.
[2:00:11] Continuous support
[2:00:11] year-over-year of a project
[2:00:13] results in higher priority in
[2:00:19] Florida. Housing our face. So
[2:00:22] for 2026, Florida housing
[2:00:24] issued there are a Fe 2026 to
[2:00:25] a one, which is the 9% low
[2:00:27] income housing tax credit for
[2:00:30] small and medium counties.
[2:00:31] That was issued on JULY. 16th
[2:00:32] applications are due AUGUST
[2:00:37] 11. Applicants to that rfa
[2:00:40] must secure verification of
[2:00:41] local contribution of a
[2:00:43] minimum of $340,000. While
[2:00:44] that can be issued and a grant
[2:00:46] or loan. Our proposal is for
[2:00:51] alone. Charlotte home and the
[2:00:51] board of County Commissioners
[2:00:55] issued an rfa on. MAY 4th with
[2:00:58] a deadline of JUNE 5th and we
[2:01:01] received 2 applications.
[2:01:03] Provided for you is an
[2:01:08] overview of various nuances of
[2:01:10] each property each proposal
[2:01:11] and you can see in this
[2:01:14] side-by-side comparison. That
[2:01:18] they ranked fairly similarly
[2:01:18] both properties, both proposed
[2:01:21] properties are very desirable
[2:01:22] to your affordable Housing
[2:01:25] Advisory Committee and staff.
[2:01:29] They scored very nearly the
[2:01:30] same slightly lower. Am I on
[2:01:31] average for a blue Jeep Creek?
[2:01:38] 2. Slightly closer proximity,
[2:01:39] 2 shopping in employment and
[2:01:40] things of that nature for
[2:01:42] Murdoch Square. Back up a
[2:01:45] little bit. Deep Creek, 2 is
[2:01:48] phase 2 of a project that you
[2:01:51] awarded lga. 0, 2, in 2020.
[2:01:58] 22. That is 70 units of
[2:01:59] affordable housing. This
[2:02:01] phase. 2 proposal would bring
[2:02:04] an additional 84 units of
[2:02:06] affordable housing on the same
[2:02:07] site. You can see the unit
[2:02:09] next for those units that
[2:02:10] they're proposing and the rent
[2:02:13] range. Recognizing that these
[2:02:14] are one and 2 bedroom.
[2:02:18] Apartments. The loan terms for
[2:02:20] should blue Deep Creek be
[2:02:26] selected is a 30 year at. 3.6,
[2:02:27] 2%. Amortized for 30 years.
[2:02:30] The term 15. Their estimated
[2:02:33] Lisa would be MAY of 2028.
[2:02:34] Their experience, their
[2:02:38] ability to provide property
[2:02:38] management, things of that
[2:02:39] nature are are listed here
[2:02:41] included in their full
[2:02:44] application. That was provided
[2:02:45] to you and they are currently
[2:02:47] in partnership with us on a
[2:02:48] couple of affordable housing
[2:02:50] developments and they are in
[2:02:51] good standing and in
[2:02:52] compliance with rental
[2:02:54] monitoring. They're not permit
[2:02:58] ready. They do not have
[2:02:58] continuous local government
[2:03:03] support. They are in an op
[2:03:04] area of opportunity, but they
[2:03:06] do not meet the statistical
[2:03:07] area of difficult development
[2:03:10] area criteria. Those 3 things
[2:03:12] are priority goals for Florida
[2:03:16] housing. Blue Decree perceived
[2:03:19] as Charlotte home score of 86.
[2:03:23] Murdoch Square. Slightly
[2:03:24] larger 88 units of affordable
[2:03:26] housing on veterans. This is a
[2:03:27] live local act proposed
[2:03:33] property. For families. It's a
[2:03:36] mix of 1, 2, 3 bedroom
[2:03:39] apartments. Their rent range
[2:03:40] is shared. They're am I on
[2:03:41] average is slightly higher
[2:03:42] because as they noted in their
[2:03:43] comments, they intend to serve
[2:03:46] a few up to 70% area. Median
[2:03:49] income. So that changed. Their
[2:03:49] score slightly within
[2:03:54] Charlotte home. Same long
[2:03:57] terms for the 340,000. If it
[2:03:57] is awarded to them with the
[2:03:58] exception of a slightly higher
[2:04:01] interest rate of 4.9, their
[2:04:02] lease is anticipated for
[2:04:05] OCTOBER of 20. Their
[2:04:06] experience, their ability to
[2:04:09] provide property management is
[2:04:09] explained in the overview and
[2:04:10] their full application that
[2:04:14] was provided to We have no
[2:04:15] prior performance concerns or
[2:04:15] conditions to share because
[2:04:17] we've not partnered with them
[2:04:18] and affordable housing
[2:04:21] previously. They are not yet
[2:04:23] permit ready. They did receive
[2:04:27] 2025. Local government support
[2:04:28] this year would give them 2
[2:04:29] years of continuous support.
[2:04:31] They are in an area of
[2:04:32] opportunity and they do meet
[2:04:35] the side. Goal. They received
[2:04:42] a score of 82. So we had an
[2:04:43] open public review and scoring
[2:04:44] session for the Review
[2:04:47] Committee on JUNE. 15th. As I
[2:04:48] noted, Lou, Deep Creek had a
[2:04:53] slightly higher score. And the
[2:04:54] most competitive for the
[2:04:57] Florida housing rfa 2026. To a
[2:04:58] one it was deemed to be
[2:05:00] Murdoch Square. The Affordable
[2:05:02] Housing Advisory Committee. I
[2:05:05] see a typo. They met JUNE
[2:05:08] 24th, not the 23rd and they
[2:05:12] had much deliberation and saw
[2:05:13] that same overview receive
[2:05:14] some additional documentation
[2:05:15] from the housing trust group
[2:05:18] about there impression about
[2:05:19] there competitiveness in the
[2:05:23] rfa this year. They agree.
[2:05:24] Both projects are very highly
[2:05:27] desired, but we can only
[2:05:28] choose one and they opted to
[2:05:30] go for the one who would be
[2:05:31] most competitive. But the
[2:05:34] Florida housing rfa process in
[2:05:35] 2026. So that is their
[2:05:37] recommendation to you. Some
[2:05:40] key factors to consider as you
[2:05:41] deliberate to your local
[2:05:46] preferences one minute,
[2:05:46] please.
[2:05:46] >> Comm. Tiseo: Can you
[2:05:47] explain again? Just so it's
[2:05:48] clear why the Murdoch squares
[2:05:50] most likely to be funded.
[2:05:58] >> I can. There are. I believe
[2:05:58] 8.
[2:05:59] >> Separate goals that Florida
[2:05:59] House and will fund in their
[2:06:00] rfa process as they review
[2:06:01] applications.
[2:06:06] >> And one is current local
[2:06:07] government support. One is
[2:06:08] continuous local government
[2:06:08] support for 2 years. Once
[2:06:09] sunrail goal that doesn't
[2:06:13] apply to us one is for the and
[2:06:16] and saga goal.
[2:06:17] >> When from Ation, what aside
[2:06:20] stands for again.
[2:06:21] >> Statistical area of
[2:06:24] difficult development area.
[2:06:25] Kind of strange, but that is
[2:06:28] what it is. The bottom line
[2:06:32] is. Housing trust Group
[2:06:33] contends that they qualify for
[2:06:37] 5 of the 8 separate goals
[2:06:38] within Florida Housing's
[2:06:41] review process and that blue
[2:06:41] to creek would this year only
[2:06:45] qualify for 3 of those same
[2:06:45] goals. So the likelihood of
[2:06:47] housing trust group having
[2:06:50] more bites at the apple, so to
[2:06:54] speak is is their contention.
[2:06:55] They both agreed, however, in
[2:06:55] discussions that because
[2:06:56] neither of them right now at
[2:06:57] the time of application permit
[2:07:01] ready. Funding for either of
[2:07:08] them in the cycle Less likely
[2:07:09] because in each goal, Florida
[2:07:11] housing the permit ready.
[2:07:12] Project. That means first and
[2:07:15] then others, if possible.
[2:07:22] Thank you help. So for Blooded
[2:07:23] Creek, this is the completion
[2:07:23] of phase 2 of an existing
[2:07:27] development in Deep Creek. All
[2:07:29] tenants or below 60%. Am I?
[2:07:32] Area median income? That's a
[2:07:33] little less competitive in
[2:07:36] 2026. They stated earlier and
[2:07:37] continue to contend they will
[2:07:40] be permit ready in time for
[2:07:43] 2027 and their belief is with
[2:07:45] local government support in
[2:07:46] 2026. And local government
[2:07:48] continuous support in 2027.
[2:07:49] They would be most competitive
[2:07:54] 4. That cycle next year for
[2:07:57] the 9% tax credit for Blooded
[2:07:57] Creek, Square. On the other
[2:07:58] hand, it's a new development
[2:08:00] in Port Charlotte. It's a live
[2:08:04] local act location. I-44 1% of
[2:08:05] their tenants would be
[2:08:08] slightly higher than 60%. Am
[2:08:10] I? They are more competitive
[2:08:11] in this cycle and we do
[2:08:12] believe we do agree with that
[2:08:13] contention staff to agree that
[2:08:17] they are more competitive in
[2:08:18] 2026, they're eligible for 3
[2:08:22] goals. And they have proximity
[2:08:27] to medical work. In the past.
[2:08:28] You funded the brand is p#
[2:08:28] #
[2:08:28] #
[2:08:28] #
[2:08:30] Gorda. 3 by new star
[2:08:32] Development and you have
[2:08:34] funded Blue Deep Creek phase.
[2:08:35] One, I believe sky
[2:08:37] communities. They are about to
[2:08:39] lease up and we are very
[2:08:41] excited about that. Probably
[2:08:47] more likely AUGUST. Then JULY.
[2:08:48] I also want to note that both
[2:08:50] developers are in the room as
[2:08:53] are a have members. Who were
[2:08:57] present for the deliberation
[2:08:59] on JUNE 24th and open to have
[2:08:59] any discussion answer any
[2:09:02] questions you might have. We
[2:09:02] are asking that you consider
[2:09:04] the a hack reccomendation for
[2:09:04] local preference and select
[2:09:08] your preferred development
[2:09:10] that you authorize a $340,000
[2:09:12] Affordable Housing Trust Fund
[2:09:14] loan for the selected
[2:09:15] applicant based on their
[2:09:18] proposed terms. And that that
[2:09:20] loan would be contingent upon
[2:09:22] the award of the Florida
[2:09:23] Housing Finance Corporation
[2:09:26] for for like Tech, and that
[2:09:27] you would authorize the
[2:09:29] CHAIRMAN To sign the require
[2:09:30] verification of contribution
[2:09:31] forms on behalf of the
[2:09:33] selected development. Yeah, I
[2:09:39] would
[2:09:39] >> Comm. Tiseo: are you all up
[2:09:40] to date? Obviously I've been
[2:09:41] on a hack for a long time. I
[2:09:43] was at the last meeting. Both
[2:09:44] applicants came in had an
[2:09:47] opportunity present. Take una
[2:09:48] from all the members. It was
[2:09:49] very, very good, thorough
[2:09:54] discussion. As you all know,
[2:09:55] hack has some really, really
[2:10:00] good knowledgeable people.
[2:10:01] Very engaged group in
[2:10:01] everything affordable housing,
[2:10:07] which is our role. We made
[2:10:08] that recommendation again
[2:10:12] through those vigorous
[2:10:12] discussions. There was one
[2:10:15] person who did not support the
[2:10:15] recommendation at of the
[2:10:20] group. It was because of
[2:10:21] Murdoch Square property with
[2:10:22] some in gress egress. I think
[2:10:24] to the rear of the property, I
[2:10:25] believe the applicant
[2:10:26] subsequently submitted a site
[2:10:28] plan addressing that issue.
[2:10:31] But other than that. That was
[2:10:34] it. Everybody else was in full
[2:10:35] support and the man and it
[2:10:38] came down from me and I think
[2:10:39] to the members, which one was
[2:10:43] most likely to be funded. And
[2:10:45] I asked professional staff. I
[2:10:46] Missus Turner, what was your
[2:10:48] professional opinion? And she
[2:10:49] stated today that Murdoch
[2:10:49] Square is the most likely to
[2:10:53] be funded. Are bold goal is to
[2:10:55] get affordable housing. Into
[2:10:59] the marketplace and so we
[2:11:01] support the one most likely to
[2:11:02] succeed. So that was a little
[2:11:04] bit of background on the
[2:11:05] discussions that we had isn't
[2:11:08] a hack. Again, both applicants
[2:11:08] were there had had a chance to
[2:11:09] present and engage with our
[2:11:13] group. Answer questions. So
[2:11:13] any other comments on this
[2:11:17] item? We'll need We'll need a
[2:11:19] motion. There's 3 parts to
[2:11:21] this. I will note in in the
[2:11:26] packet provided for you.
[2:11:27] >> I was asked to prepare
[2:11:27] excerpt minutes from that
[2:11:28] dialogue at the apec meeting.
[2:11:30] Those are there and attached.
[2:11:31] That is the come head-to-head
[2:11:34] comparison provided by Housing
[2:11:35] Trust group. At that time on
[2:11:38] JUNE 24th to be a hack after
[2:11:40] that Florida housing amended
[2:11:43] their their rfa slightly and
[2:11:47] it shifted some things that
[2:11:50] increased their
[2:11:51] competitiveness and they
[2:11:53] provided a supplemental
[2:11:54] updated head-to-head
[2:11:54] comparison from their
[2:11:56] perspective about their
[2:11:58] competitiveness that was
[2:11:59] provided based on guidance
[2:11:59] from administration and the
[2:12:01] county Attorney and commission
[2:12:05] to you as well for your
[2:12:06] review. And so that the public
[2:12:07] would have access to that as
[2:12:09] well. So those 2 items are
[2:12:10] attached year agenda so that
[2:12:12] you can see from housing trust
[2:12:14] groups perspective about their
[2:12:19] competitiveness at state are
[2:12:20] >> Comm. Tiseo: I think you
[2:12:20] stated in the presentation,
[2:12:21] the biggest issue I think we
[2:12:22] had as we head to great
[2:12:22] projects. That's it. That's
[2:12:23] the problem. It's an
[2:12:27] embarrassment of riches. Kerry
[2:12:28] likes to say I had missed
[2:12:30] commissioner Doherty but MR.
[2:12:30] Davidson, the cute like you're
[2:12:33] from legal first. Absolutely.
[2:12:34] Okay. I'm down turnout. Just
[2:12:37] like to ask Linda come There
[2:12:38] was part of that motion to
[2:12:40] just described the issue with
[2:12:41] the loan terms and make sure
[2:12:41] the board's clear and what
[2:12:45] that issue is.
[2:12:46] >> I
[2:12:46] >> He's morning to Good
[2:12:47] morning. Commissioners,
[2:12:50] Clinton, Pruitt, for the
[2:12:51] record. My question is part of
[2:12:52] the request was for you guys
[2:12:56] to make a motion to approve
[2:12:57] the developer and to issue a
[2:12:57] loan, provided the received
[2:13:00] their award from the rfa
[2:13:02] contingent upon the developers
[2:13:03] long terms. And I want to make
[2:13:07] sure we flush out if we know
[2:13:09] what own terms are so that I
[2:13:09] will know what that these
[2:13:10] people when I get ready to
[2:13:12] draft these documents. That's
[2:13:13] important. So we don't have to
[2:13:17] come back to you for
[2:13:18] clarification. Do you want the
[2:13:18] applicant to come up and speak
[2:13:19] to the think it's important
[2:13:22] for the board to understand
[2:13:23] what those provision alone
[2:13:24] terms would so that they are
[2:13:25] drafted in the document,
[2:13:26] meaning the loan terms from
[2:13:27] the county to the developer,
[2:13:28] from the county to the
[2:13:29] developer. Correct? These are
[2:13:31] some basics.
[2:13:40] Commissioned already.
[2:13:41] >> Comm. Doherty: Thank you,
[2:13:43] MR. CHAIRMAN. Well, both. I've
[2:13:43] had had the opportunity
[2:13:44] discuss both projects, both
[2:13:45] applicants. They're both
[2:13:47] excellent.
[2:13:53] >> I agree with comment.
[2:13:53] >> Comm. Doherty: a struggle
[2:13:55] right now with Murdoch Square.
[2:13:56] And I understand why the
[2:13:59] committee made the
[2:14:00] recommendation for the highly
[2:14:01] probable that they would score
[2:14:04] better. But, you know, my
[2:14:05] concern is we just had a
[2:14:07] presentation on the need for
[2:14:09] industrial plant in Charlotte
[2:14:12] County. This is on 4 acres
[2:14:14] industrially zoned property.
[2:14:16] Small, small parcel the other
[2:14:20] issue of guy is. I think it's
[2:14:23] 88 units on 4 acres. 22 units
[2:14:25] break. I saw the conceptual
[2:14:26] site plan absolutely no area
[2:14:31] for storm water management.
[2:14:32] Probably I've I've vaulted put
[2:14:35] under par Raymond James
[2:14:35] Stadium for the Buccaneers,
[2:14:38] the target across the street,
[2:14:39] vaulted underneath the parking
[2:14:42] lots because they didn't have
[2:14:43] real estate to put open storm
[2:14:45] water so it can be done. But
[2:14:46] it seems fly in the face of
[2:14:48] affordable housing. That's not
[2:14:48] it's not inexpensive will be,
[2:14:54] but that one it's end. I saw
[2:14:55] access issues. I do not want
[2:14:55] to see a dry. We are Veterans
[2:14:59] Boulevard. You know, I think
[2:15:00] coming out on Kenilworth
[2:15:00] makes. And so I have more site
[2:15:04] plan issues with that project
[2:15:05] and its only conceptual at
[2:15:07] this point. I understand that.
[2:15:08] But I do have some concerns
[2:15:11] over that converting that
[2:15:12] industrial property when we
[2:15:14] just got a presentation that
[2:15:16] were grossly short on
[2:15:16] industrial. And that's all I
[2:15:20] just want to get that out. Any
[2:15:21] comments on the implications
[2:15:22] commission recognized. Thank
[2:15:26] you, MR. CHAIRMAN.
[2:15:27] >> I had I had some concerns
[2:15:27] on veterans. But when they
[2:15:29] added the rear entrance to it,
[2:15:30] you know that to me made a lot
[2:15:31] of sense. I think you need to
[2:15:32] have a full flow throughout
[2:15:36] front and back on it for
[2:15:37] access emergency access. You
[2:15:38] don't want to have to send.
[2:15:40] Fire trucks will wear in the
[2:15:41] back kennel, work come into a
[2:15:44] facility like that. So I think
[2:15:45] they have access in 2
[2:15:46] directions for public safety
[2:15:46] perspective. I think it's it's
[2:15:51] good. The storm water could be
[2:15:52] an issue. I looked at that
[2:15:55] too. And I was worried about
[2:15:56] buffers and they they're
[2:15:59] willing to address buffers
[2:15:59] within just industrial mixed
[2:16:00] or baby. Our Zara guess,
[2:16:06] right? So that was a concern
[2:16:08] we need the housing we know.
[2:16:09] We've been short for many,
[2:16:10] many years. And yes, I we
[2:16:12] could have both of them. I do.
[2:16:13] But I think we can have both
[2:16:16] of them. But I think we have
[2:16:18] to go with the one that has
[2:16:21] best possible chance of being
[2:16:23] funded first, just like x
[2:16:24] said. And so I've make the
[2:16:27] motion that we. Approve
[2:16:31] Murdoch Square as requested, I
[2:16:32] can switch with screens.
[2:16:35] Sorry. Parts a b and parts a b
[2:16:38] and c. And we need to add
[2:16:39] clarification balloon terms to
[2:16:46] this. That motion.
[2:16:52] >> I'll second that discussion
[2:16:53] Commissioner David. But I I
[2:16:54] know. I the peco all way to
[2:16:55] Gotta take not want that
[2:17:00] occur. Smart.
[2:17:00] >> Comm. Deutsch: I think the
[2:17:01] there are some low in terms in
[2:17:02] this overview here. I think
[2:17:03] those are the basic long-term.
[2:17:04] So I think what we could, but
[2:17:09] I would recommend MISTER
[2:17:10] Chairs that that the documents
[2:17:13] drafted pursuant to the county
[2:17:14] attorneys review sufficiency
[2:17:15] and will take the rest of that
[2:17:16] from there. I think that
[2:17:19] should work out and will
[2:17:20] follow what we have done in
[2:17:22] the past that. I think the
[2:17:25] basic terms are they're okay.
[2:17:26] But they're obviously it's
[2:17:27] it's an agreement. So they'll
[2:17:28] be a lot of other things in
[2:17:29] there. So will make a draft if
[2:17:32] we can't come to a conclusion
[2:17:33] or reasonable understanding
[2:17:33] with the applicant that we
[2:17:39] will come back to the board.
[2:17:40] >> Comm. Doherty: Who should
[2:17:41] order I have really no
[2:17:41] objection to the motion. I
[2:17:42] just again. Good, great
[2:17:43] project. I guess if it's a
[2:17:47] write-in, write out a
[2:17:48] veterans, no median openings,
[2:17:49] you know, that makes sense.
[2:17:51] Obviously needs the back for
[2:17:51] safety, but really have have
[2:17:55] the selling Yeah, all stuff
[2:17:56] can get work out. I think the
[2:17:59] applicant has heard the
[2:18:00] concerns and, you know, I
[2:18:02] wouldn't have any objection to
[2:18:03] actually, you know, that's a
[2:18:04] lot of units on that 4 acres,
[2:18:05] you know, and I you know,
[2:18:08] maybe maybe it's a other are
[2:18:09] architectural and engineering
[2:18:11] solutions that could think
[2:18:14] more affordable but anyways,
[2:18:15] that's lie can, sir. That's
[2:18:16] all I think. We approved 600
[2:18:18] units for the Murdoch for the
[2:18:20] track. What was on Bachmann
[2:18:21] track Mark, the other than we
[2:18:23] talk about hundreds of you've
[2:18:24] got some. You've got some real
[2:18:26] estate to work with there. And
[2:18:29] I get over to about access
[2:18:30] totally get it. You know, I
[2:18:31] have no objection. The motion
[2:18:31] okay. So is there any further
[2:18:33] discussion? Is there any
[2:18:36] opposition to the motion that
[2:18:37] passes unanimously? We move on
[2:18:40] to item number s.
[2:18:40] >> For Port Charlotte Beach,
[2:18:44] the schedule. MR. Scott,
[2:18:50] you're recognized to present
[2:18:50] And eye on that last night. I
[2:18:53] really do want to thank the
[2:18:56] applicants that tell you it
[2:19:00] was it wasn't contentious, but
[2:19:00] they were they were supporting
[2:19:01] their position at hack
[2:19:05] meeting. It was great in a way
[2:19:07] to hear that they want to be
[2:19:08] here in Charlotte County,
[2:19:09] partner with us in any way
[2:19:10] possible to provide affordable
[2:19:10] housing. I encourage you to
[2:19:15] keep coming back. We supported
[2:19:16] phase one. Unfortunate this
[2:19:17] time for face to it wasn't
[2:19:19] there. But but we're here to
[2:19:20] support affordable housing.
[2:19:22] Thank you for for thinking
[2:19:23] about Charlotte County thank
[2:19:25] you for that very can vary
[2:19:26] from very competitive prior to
[2:19:27] that. And the applicants know
[2:19:27] that. I think they both
[2:19:35] recognize very competitive.
[2:19:35] Has got recognize good morning
[2:19:40] times got to service director.
[2:19:41] >> I wanted to bring forward.
[2:19:41] The actual requested motion is
[2:19:43] going to be a resolution of up
[2:19:44] that our fee schedule updating
[2:19:46] it specifically in Port
[2:19:47] Charlotte Beach. But I wanted
[2:19:47] to take the opportunity to
[2:19:49] kind of go through a
[2:19:50] presentation. I'm just kind of
[2:19:51] walk you through kind of the
[2:19:54] research that we had done. The
[2:19:55] benchmarking comparisons
[2:19:56] because this is a slight
[2:19:56] change of how we have done our
[2:20:00] normal rental rights. So this
[2:20:01] will kind of just walk through
[2:20:04] or get a little bit of brief
[2:20:04] history curfew schedule, some
[2:20:05] of benchmarking be done and
[2:20:06] then we'll get weeded and then
[2:20:07] we'll get to the proposed fee
[2:20:11] schedule for consideration. So
[2:20:11] again, obviously, you know,
[2:20:12] some of this history, but the
[2:20:13] facility came on the ground
[2:20:16] and back in the 70's to make
[2:20:17] event space restrooms in a
[2:20:19] public pool. It's been
[2:20:19] renovated several times
[2:20:21] through the years, including
[2:20:25] some recovery efforts after
[2:20:25] Hurricane Charley most
[2:20:26] recently back in 18 19, we did
[2:20:28] the parking lot renovations
[2:20:29] for drainage and the sailing
[2:20:29] center was ad which was a one
[2:20:30] percent local sales tax
[2:20:36] project. Here we So some
[2:20:37] pictures of what the building
[2:20:39] used to look like. So this is
[2:20:41] how it was. And like kind of
[2:20:45] open state. An aerial of what
[2:20:46] it look like on. You can see
[2:20:47] the large outdoor deck, which
[2:20:49] was a great place for weddings
[2:20:53] and other events to happen. We
[2:20:54] did a multitude of different
[2:20:56] kinds of events where they
[2:20:57] were county directed or mostly
[2:21:01] user directed event, rental
[2:21:02] tight spaces, but heavily used
[2:21:02] by our community for many,
[2:21:07] many years. And we fast
[2:21:08] forward some of these pictures
[2:21:10] that, you know, happened
[2:21:11] through Hurricanes, Helene and
[2:21:13] Milton, but both facilities
[2:21:13] have sustained damage for the
[2:21:14] multitude of hurricanes that
[2:21:15] we've experienced over the
[2:21:18] last 5 years. So this kind of
[2:21:19] gives you this is the
[2:21:20] rendering of what the new
[2:21:24] port, Charlotte Recreation
[2:21:25] Center. We'll look like the
[2:21:26] right was a recent aerial that
[2:21:29] was provided to us by the
[2:21:30] contractor. But as you can
[2:21:31] see, it is coming out of the
[2:21:32] ground for those. You haven't
[2:21:34] been there in a while. The
[2:21:35] sighting is complete. They're
[2:21:38] working to finish up the
[2:21:40] roofing and the ndp is getting
[2:21:41] near completion as well. So
[2:21:43] they are moving along. There
[2:21:43] are substantial completion
[2:21:47] date is still Christmas Eve
[2:21:50] DECEMBER 24th of this year and
[2:21:50] then we'll move into the
[2:21:51] spring of next year. As we
[2:21:53] outfit the building for
[2:21:54] operation, which is really the
[2:21:55] main reason that we want to
[2:21:56] have this conversation is we
[2:21:57] need to be ready to start
[2:21:58] renting the facility. People
[2:22:01] are already been asking. So
[2:22:01] establishing these rental
[2:22:02] rates is why we're bringing
[2:22:05] this forward now, before we go
[2:22:05] into the AUGUST break so that
[2:22:06] we can have some rights ready
[2:22:10] to go. So our current fee
[2:22:13] schedule for indoor space is
[2:22:14] really geared towards square
[2:22:16] footage by our right. And it
[2:22:18] is pretty much universally
[2:22:19] applied throughout all of the
[2:22:19] facilities underneath
[2:22:23] community services, purview it
[2:22:25] really doesn't have any real
[2:22:26] guidance toward the structure
[2:22:28] that might be on the
[2:22:29] waterfront. That is more event
[2:22:29] space. It's just if you want
[2:22:30] to rent. It is based upon
[2:22:35] square footage in by hour. So
[2:22:36] we went through the exercise
[2:22:39] of doing original comparison
[2:22:41] of both share Sarasota and Lee
[2:22:43] and Charlotte County event
[2:22:44] facilities to really try and
[2:22:46] get a benchmark of what is in
[2:22:47] the market in our competitors
[2:22:50] and what they're doing.
[2:22:51] Because, again, this is an
[2:22:53] event and it will draw in.
[2:22:54] We've already had people who
[2:22:55] are inquiring about rentals
[2:22:58] for it. So we looked at a
[2:23:01] myriad and it runs the gamut
[2:23:05] right size price. How they
[2:23:07] break it down for additional
[2:23:09] costs because most of them not
[2:23:10] only are you paying rental
[2:23:10] cost, but then you're charged
[2:23:12] for every chair, every table.
[2:23:13] Every and you want to borrow
[2:23:18] everything as well. So we
[2:23:19] really look at all of those to
[2:23:20] really kind of get us to the
[2:23:21] nexus of where we're at in our
[2:23:23] proposed rental rates. But
[2:23:27] generally speaking, the
[2:23:29] there's 3 for rental spaces at
[2:23:30] new building that's coming out
[2:23:31] of the ground. There is a
[2:23:32] joint space that can be
[2:23:35] divided in half. There's a
[2:23:35] large base and then there's a
[2:23:38] smaller conference meeting
[2:23:39] room space. So we looked at
[2:23:41] this small and this small
[2:23:42] meeting room categories for
[2:23:43] the benchmarks for somewhere
[2:23:46] between 70 to to 50 an hour
[2:23:49] somewhere between 300 to 600 a
[2:23:50] day. Right? That event spaces,
[2:23:52] which are the bigger ones. And
[2:23:53] again, they vary in size even
[2:23:55] and I have another slide that
[2:23:56] we also looked at the event
[2:23:57] center here on down the
[2:24:01] harbor, specifically those
[2:24:03] those are varying as well. But
[2:24:06] anywhere between 5,002 1000
[2:24:07] per day, most other facilities
[2:24:08] are charging you again for all
[2:24:09] of those extra things, tables,
[2:24:10] chairs, all that kind of
[2:24:12] stuff. So we really tried to
[2:24:13] stay kind of in the middle and
[2:24:17] around most of those things.
[2:24:17] But with a new concept for our
[2:24:18] rentals that will talk about
[2:24:20] here in second. I thought I
[2:24:23] heard you say 5,000, 500 a
[2:24:27] tooth ok, The numbers just
[2:24:28] rolled together 500 to 1000 on
[2:24:29] that event. Space per day. Ok?
[2:24:30] Sorry about that. That's
[2:24:35] right. So the event center,
[2:24:37] this so this is kind of my
[2:24:39] soft launch into how dynamic
[2:24:40] pricing work. So the event
[2:24:40] center has part of their fee
[2:24:41] schedule that we bring to the
[2:24:45] board. They have a dynamic
[2:24:46] pricing all not
[2:24:47] not-for-profit, obviously a
[2:24:49] commercial which we have as
[2:24:52] well. But they also have a
[2:24:53] model for in season and out of
[2:24:54] season, right? So when they
[2:24:54] can meet demand, the price
[2:24:58] goes up for that as well. But
[2:24:58] here are their prices that
[2:25:01] they have. Again, the range on
[2:25:04] the hall's between I-95 and
[2:25:05] 1040. That really is where
[2:25:05] they start getting into the
[2:25:06] sum of their dynamic pricing
[2:25:07] of in season and out of
[2:25:12] season. So for our as we came
[2:25:12] in with the proposal of again,
[2:25:15] the large, which is the
[2:25:16] because you the square footage
[2:25:19] we're looking at basically the
[2:25:20] cat count. One is the
[2:25:21] nonprofit Cat who is the
[2:25:22] for-profit, right? That is
[2:25:23] just continuing how we have it
[2:25:26] for all of our other
[2:25:27] facilities. We're looking at
[2:25:28] doing it day weekday rate,
[2:25:29] which is Monday through
[2:25:29] Thursday and then a weekend
[2:25:31] rate, which is Friday,
[2:25:32] Saturday, Sunday. Those are
[2:25:33] peak times that the peak use
[2:25:35] when people want to rent the
[2:25:37] facilities. So we're proposing
[2:25:38] a shift differential in that
[2:25:41] for the dynamic pricing, the
[2:25:42] other change that I will point
[2:25:43] out is also in going from an
[2:25:45] hourly rate to a day rate
[2:25:47] right? It is difficult to be
[2:25:48] able to in a facility like
[2:25:51] this. We just don't see it?
[2:25:52] Multiple events going on in
[2:25:53] the same space that were
[2:25:55] turning in a day. People are
[2:25:56] reading it. It's for the day.
[2:25:58] And so we just went to that
[2:25:59] pricing instead of doing it by
[2:26:01] our it makes it Now, again, we
[2:26:03] can do multiple events and
[2:26:04] multiple spaces, but we're
[2:26:05] just not turning the room so
[2:26:06] we can have an event going on
[2:26:08] in the larger and we could
[2:26:10] have 2 different events going
[2:26:11] on in the split rooms. It's
[2:26:13] just not taking the large room
[2:26:14] and doing it 2 or 3 times a
[2:26:16] day just for set up and what
[2:26:17] events use. It just doesn't
[2:26:18] work like that. So we went to
[2:26:18] it a day rate.
[2:26:21] >> As I mentioned, all of our
[2:26:22] in-house equipment is all
[2:26:24] included in that pricing,
[2:26:26] which isn't a nice change. I
[2:26:30] think that we have as well.
[2:26:30] The other thing I'll point out
[2:26:32] as we did build in as you see
[2:26:33] the designs. And if you
[2:26:34] remember a port Charlotte
[2:26:35] Beach, a catering kitchen,
[2:26:36] which we think is an amazing
[2:26:36] amenity. We had a kitchen in
[2:26:39] the old building. It had a had
[2:26:41] a commercial hood on it. But
[2:26:44] it wasn't great. This is a
[2:26:45] full on cooking catering
[2:26:46] kitchen. What sets us apart
[2:26:48] from other people as we do not
[2:26:52] have catering even at the
[2:26:53] event center, they have
[2:26:54] in-house food and beverage
[2:26:55] services. So you have to
[2:26:56] utilize their service. Most
[2:26:57] other event spaces throughout
[2:27:00] the regions. If the same model
[2:27:00] you can rent the space. But
[2:27:03] then you also have to use our
[2:27:04] facilities. Most hotels at
[2:27:06] Purdue events is very same
[2:27:07] model. Ours is. We have a
[2:27:08] space. If you want to use it,
[2:27:09] you can cook and bring from
[2:27:12] home. You can hire your own.
[2:27:13] You can do whatever you want.
[2:27:14] There's a right to use the
[2:27:15] space, but we're not
[2:27:18] dictating. You have to use
[2:27:18] ours that reduces costs for
[2:27:21] event. Users introduced
[2:27:22] provides flexibility if they
[2:27:23] just want to cook it
[2:27:23] themselves or bring from home.
[2:27:26] We're not limiting that
[2:27:27] factor. But that significant
[2:27:27] difference between us and
[2:27:29] pretty much most other event,
[2:27:29] rental spaces that are out
[2:27:34] there. We have for a proposed
[2:27:35] these through the Parks,
[2:27:38] Recreation Advisory Board and
[2:27:39] they had provided their
[2:27:39] unanimous support as a
[2:27:41] recommendation to this board
[2:27:42] for this, the schedule that
[2:27:46] you see before you. This just
[2:27:48] kind of give you some
[2:27:50] comparisons of where we were.
[2:27:52] Again, it's not actual apples
[2:27:55] and apples, which just because
[2:27:56] of per square footage per
[2:27:57] hour. But this will kind of
[2:28:01] give you ranges. So we're in
[2:28:02] the range of where we were
[2:28:02] before, where a little bit
[2:28:04] higher than we were before,
[2:28:05] especially when we start
[2:28:06] adding on the dynamic pricing
[2:28:08] for the weekends. But again, I
[2:28:08] think you asked us to build a
[2:28:09] top notch event facility,
[2:28:11] which we have done. We have
[2:28:14] already have people that are
[2:28:15] waiting on a decision on the
[2:28:16] rental rate so they can start
[2:28:21] booking out their events so we
[2:28:25] these proposes proposed fees
[2:28:26] are within the range in the
[2:28:27] and provide a great
[2:28:29] opportunity for the community.
[2:28:29] So that all stand for any
[2:28:30] questions you all might have
[2:28:31] about our proposed fee
[2:28:34] schedule. So the fact that
[2:28:35] there's nobody the queue sell
[2:28:41] jump in real quick.
[2:28:42] Neighborhood. Watch.
[2:28:43] >> Out there. They have
[2:28:43] meetings out there. I think
[2:28:44] they used to meet in the old
[2:28:45] facility from time to time.
[2:28:47] And I think they used billions
[2:28:48] as well. They reserve the
[2:28:49] billions they have used both
[2:28:50] pavilions right now,
[2:28:50] obviously, but they MAY want
[2:28:52] to get back into the building.
[2:28:53] It's a small group. What they
[2:28:56] pay. Based on the schedule.
[2:28:59] What what would they have been
[2:28:59] charged before? It was
[2:29:00] demolished? The in the old
[2:29:04] facility for the space they
[2:29:04] used.
[2:29:05] >> I'm not sure what room size
[2:29:06] that would be. So I have the
[2:29:09] old room science and water,
[2:29:10] size with a fall into today.
[2:29:11] So the old rooms, the smaller,
[2:29:13] which is the one that was kind
[2:29:14] of a closest to where the
[2:29:22] outdoor dec was was about 975
[2:29:23] square feet. So they would
[2:29:24] have paid they nonprofit rate,
[2:29:25] which was $200 a day. If you
[2:29:26] do that by hours. So in
[2:29:28] looking at excuse me, it's
[2:29:30] about $25 an hour is what they
[2:29:32] were paying before. So that
[2:29:36] came out to about $200 a day.
[2:29:37] So so what are they pay before
[2:29:38] I don't have their exact
[2:29:40] rental What they paid before.
[2:29:41] That's just how it would have
[2:29:44] been applied I don't have a
[2:29:49] rental okay for them. So don't
[2:29:50] have that.
[2:29:50] >> Comm. Tiseo: I'm just
[2:29:51] trying to figure out could you
[2:29:52] know those small groups? It's
[2:29:52] important. You know
[2:29:53] historically they met there
[2:29:54] and I don't know for pricing
[2:29:55] them out with this schedule.
[2:29:58] That's what trying to compare
[2:29:59] for the size room that they
[2:29:59] would have used back in the
[2:30:00] day. And then what room with
[2:30:01] they use now if they asked you
[2:30:05] to reserve a room for a
[2:30:06] meeting? So honestly, if it
[2:30:06] was my my comparison for them
[2:30:10] would probably the conference
[2:30:10] room.
[2:30:11] >> Right, which on this is in
[2:30:13] the middle of 336 square feet,
[2:30:14] right? So there's the large
[2:30:16] event space, divide, a
[2:30:17] ballroom event space. And then
[2:30:17] we built in this conference
[2:30:22] room space to allow kind of
[2:30:22] those smaller groups. So
[2:30:24] probably that and or if they
[2:30:25] need to maybe move to one of
[2:30:27] the divide Abul spaces, which
[2:30:28] is the be slash sea space
[2:30:29] which get you up into that 800
[2:30:32] square foot space.
[2:30:33] >> Comm. Tiseo: So so room
[2:30:36] d-conn for $250 a day,
[2:30:37] correct? So if they needed
[2:30:38] just for like a two-hour
[2:30:38] meeting, they pay the one we
[2:30:43] one 50 day, ok, and before
[2:30:44] that they pay by the hour.
[2:30:45] Paid by the also would have
[2:30:45] been 5th. 25 bucks an hour.
[2:30:50] Correct? Okay. So.
[2:30:52] Theoretically, if they needed
[2:30:53] the roofer two-hour meeting,
[2:30:53] it would pay 50 before. Now
[2:30:57] it's about 150. I have a
[2:30:57] little issue with
[2:30:59] affordability. For that on on
[2:31:03] that. And being at that being
[2:31:05] at the facility watching it go
[2:31:06] up. We have usable space now
[2:31:09] because we've raised the
[2:31:10] facility thousands of square
[2:31:11] feet underneath. How is that
[2:31:11] going to be handled somebody
[2:31:15] wanted to use that and maybe
[2:31:16] meet there, how we going house
[2:31:16] the public and have access
[2:31:18] because they're finishing the
[2:31:19] ceiling there and they're
[2:31:19] putting in lighting. So what
[2:31:24] is that going to be used for?
[2:31:24] >> So we have a program that
[2:31:25] as event space. But to your
[2:31:29] point, it is usable space,
[2:31:30] right? So we haven't gotten
[2:31:30] that far down into it. And
[2:31:31] again, we rent pavilions,
[2:31:34] right? So people can use that.
[2:31:35] i'm sure as it comes out of
[2:31:35] the ground we see with that
[2:31:38] usage looks like whether it is
[2:31:40] events that won an outdoor
[2:31:41] space that there is the
[2:31:41] outdoor deck on the built the
[2:31:44] building, the current
[2:31:45] building, right? Could they
[2:31:49] want an overflow? That's
[2:31:49] downstairs? Absolutely. We
[2:31:50] haven't gotten to that and
[2:31:51] figuring out exactly what that
[2:31:52] looked like. We don't know
[2:31:53] what that demand will be for
[2:31:54] underneath. But to your point,
[2:31:55] they're absolutely a space
[2:31:55] underneath there that can be
[2:31:57] used for just general public
[2:31:58] to be able to be out of the
[2:32:02] sun will near the water. How
[2:32:03] it folds into event rentable
[2:32:04] space. I don't have an answer
[2:32:05] for that yet. We want really
[2:32:09] see how the demand looks.
[2:32:10] >> Comm. Tiseo: Yeah, I think
[2:32:10] that's going to be really
[2:32:11] important that we start
[2:32:12] game-planning because it's
[2:32:15] thousands of square feet of
[2:32:16] usable space. I think it's got
[2:32:17] at least a 10 foot ceiling or
[2:32:18] 9 foot ceiling with when they
[2:32:19] the effort they put the
[2:32:21] finishing swimming with a
[2:32:22] finishing on and you've got
[2:32:22] views of the water and you're
[2:32:25] fully protected from the
[2:32:26] elements underneath Weathersby
[2:32:27] picnic tables and are there
[2:32:29] for people to meet. I don't
[2:32:29] know if that's going to you're
[2:32:30] going to have some type of
[2:32:31] decorative aluminum fence to
[2:32:32] stop people from sleeping
[2:32:37] there overnight. Things like
[2:32:37] that. But we're going to have
[2:32:38] to address it because it is a
[2:32:40] lot of space. A lot of usable
[2:32:41] space and we need to somehow
[2:32:45] full that into this schedule
[2:32:48] of uses and who can use it.
[2:32:49] Because that's not really
[2:32:49] being addressed here because
[2:32:50] on day one, if we open, what's
[2:32:53] it going to be? Going People
[2:32:54] just wonder under their walk
[2:32:57] around and hang out like ride
[2:32:57] your bicycle when your bicycle
[2:32:59] up against the wall and, you
[2:33:00] know, take a gander at the
[2:33:02] harbor. So to that address,
[2:33:07] all it.
[2:33:08] >> As a rentable space, we
[2:33:09] want to really let demand
[2:33:09] right how we're going to
[2:33:10] navigate that, which is why
[2:33:12] it's not included here right?
[2:33:14] We update our annual fee
[2:33:17] schedule annually 21. The
[2:33:18] schedule and so we can address
[2:33:19] that. And every year we can
[2:33:20] bring back any potential
[2:33:22] changes. And we do that right.
[2:33:26] What we have till DECEMBER the
[2:33:27] you know, if everything goes
[2:33:30] on schedule to maybe up before
[2:33:31] DECEMBER, I'd like staff to go
[2:33:32] back and take a look at that
[2:33:34] usable space and come up with
[2:33:34] some game-planning. I don't
[2:33:35] want to wait till after we
[2:33:38] open. I think. If again, if
[2:33:39] you haven't seen it, it is a
[2:33:40] lot of space. We need to
[2:33:42] figure it out now, rather than
[2:33:46] later and we can do But but to
[2:33:47] your other question, if we are
[2:33:48] having an event going on the
[2:33:49] general public, as you know,
[2:33:50] the ability to go underneath
[2:33:53] or if it's not part of an
[2:33:53] event that is going on. Yes,
[2:33:54] that is one of the reasons we
[2:33:56] built it so people could get
[2:33:58] out of the sun underneath and
[2:33:59] be able to utilize that
[2:34:03] facility as well. So it's not
[2:34:03] being used as part of an event
[2:34:05] that's rented absolutely want
[2:34:06] the public to be able utilize
[2:34:06] that space as well.
[2:34:07] Commissioner Constance and
[2:34:08] already. Thank you, MISTER
[2:34:13] Chair.
[2:34:14] >> Comm. Constance: Tell me
[2:34:15] why do we have half day
[2:34:15] rentals when we have day
[2:34:19] broken up a little more?
[2:34:19] Because I mean, obviously, if
[2:34:20] I know that I'm going to have
[2:34:21] an event and I need the whole
[2:34:22] day or even 2 days because I
[2:34:23] want to set up today before,
[2:34:24] you know, that's fine. You
[2:34:28] can. Why not have fractions of
[2:34:31] the day? What's the problem?
[2:34:32] >> So for us when we went back
[2:34:36] and looked at our that average
[2:34:37] uses, if you will, of people
[2:34:38] that are renting out. The
[2:34:39] majority of them are pushing
[2:34:40] beyond just the 2 couple
[2:34:41] hours, we do have some
[2:34:41] meetings to commissioner to
[2:34:45] sales point. There are there
[2:34:46] were meetings that were just a
[2:34:47] couple hours here and there
[2:34:47] traditionally were renting out
[2:34:48] for longer than that. And we
[2:34:50] went to this as we can slice
[2:34:53] this cake. However, you'd like
[2:34:54] it. It just gets into the
[2:34:56] complexities of
[2:34:57] implementation. Absolutely if
[2:34:59] you would like us to provide
[2:35:02] that, it just it just gets
[2:35:03] into how many ways do you want
[2:35:04] to slice it and then we'll
[2:35:06] we'll build that for Well, and
[2:35:07] I mean, you know, I think for
[2:35:09] some of the smaller rooms, I
[2:35:10] think, you know, we want to
[2:35:11] slice it into a brownie trade.
[2:35:12] I mean, I think we need to
[2:35:14] have situation where,
[2:35:15] >> you know, and and we got to
[2:35:19] get technology. So I need I
[2:35:20] don't need people there. I
[2:35:22] don't want you using your
[2:35:23] staff. I want people to go
[2:35:24] online, be able to reserve a
[2:35:26] room for certain amount of
[2:35:26] time. They get a qr code that
[2:35:30] go over. They pop it on to the
[2:35:31] scanner at the door, the door
[2:35:33] on locks and they use their
[2:35:37] room. We need to have hands
[2:35:37] free. And this is this is the
[2:35:38] technology that should be
[2:35:39] built into this place. And I'm
[2:35:41] sure that's not what's
[2:35:41] happening, but we need to do
[2:35:42] that because you're not
[2:35:45] getting any more Ft. Ease you
[2:35:49] need to use ai and you need to
[2:35:50] use technology to do a lot of
[2:35:50] what the functions are. The
[2:35:51] traditional you need to get
[2:35:53] somebody down there open the
[2:35:54] doors and all that stuff that
[2:35:55] we don't need that anymore. We
[2:35:57] need to have technology
[2:35:59] infiltrating this facility so
[2:36:00] that people are not part of
[2:36:03] the equation until it's
[2:36:03] custodial or it's, you know,
[2:36:04] things that have to get done
[2:36:06] manually. The other part of
[2:36:10] this is that and I agree with
[2:36:13] the CHAIRMAN Of space
[2:36:14] underneath. You know, you do
[2:36:15] rent that pavilions, but you
[2:36:17] don't have to rent the
[2:36:19] pavilion. You can come and
[2:36:20] show up. And if nobody else
[2:36:22] has rented that facility at
[2:36:24] Harbour Heights or any of your
[2:36:26] other parks, they just start
[2:36:27] using And I think that's
[2:36:28] exactly what we have to allow
[2:36:30] for beach complex. The whole
[2:36:32] purpose of having it lifted up
[2:36:32] was and by the way, those
[2:36:33] benches and what are we going
[2:36:34] to put down there? They're
[2:36:37] going to be flooded away. Look
[2:36:38] forward to another flooding
[2:36:39] event. So don't spend a
[2:36:43] bazillion dollars on those
[2:36:44] benches because that's the
[2:36:44] stuff that unless you can get
[2:36:45] there 2 days before and pull
[2:36:48] it all out, hoping that you're
[2:36:50] going to say moving upstairs,
[2:36:50] I mean, you better have your
[2:36:53] contingency plans ready,
[2:36:54] because but that spaces for
[2:36:55] folks to get out of the sun,
[2:36:57] that that is a great purpose.
[2:36:58] The other question that I have
[2:37:01] for you is those elevators.
[2:37:03] Are they piston driven or is
[2:37:04] there an elevator box on motor
[2:37:06] on top? That's pulling another
[2:37:06] because you're p#
[2:37:07] #
[2:37:07] #
[2:37:07] #
[2:37:07] #
[2:37:07] and
[2:37:09] driven. I believe. Okay. So
[2:37:09] what are we program then? We
[2:37:10] did a lot of resiliency for
[2:37:12] the swimming pool. What are we
[2:37:14] put? What are we got in place
[2:37:20] for locking down you know,
[2:37:22] panels over the openings of
[2:37:23] the elevators. So when the 6
[2:37:23] or 8 feet of water show up
[2:37:26] like they did at station 10,
[2:37:26] which we still haven't fixed
[2:37:29] at a Palm Island with all of
[2:37:30] these elevators need to have
[2:37:33] those panels ready install so
[2:37:34] we can brace for the water
[2:37:37] elevation. And then when it
[2:37:39] goes away, you pull the
[2:37:39] panel's, throw the power and
[2:37:41] bam, you have an elevator as
[2:37:43] opposed to you'll be offline
[2:37:45] for 3 or 4 months until all of
[2:37:46] that elevator stuff gets taken
[2:37:50] care of. So where are we with
[2:37:51] That's a good Find more
[2:37:52] information things you think
[2:37:54] your kitchen door. The t-Rex.
[2:37:55] >> Comm. Doherty: Thank you,
[2:37:56] MR. CHAIRMAN. Yeah. As far as
[2:37:58] the per day get get just that.
[2:38:00] But I would say the larger
[2:38:00] spaces, it might make sense to
[2:38:01] break that up and have these
[2:38:03] 2, you know, they have the
[2:38:07] right for the largest bases,
[2:38:07] the smaller ones them eating
[2:38:11] sweets in the conference room.
[2:38:12] Quite honestly, you gonna get
[2:38:12] hourly people there. So I
[2:38:14] think we do need that broken
[2:38:18] down per hour as well. But you
[2:38:19] have the to the full day
[2:38:19] numbers. Look, looks
[2:38:21] fantastic. I mean, I'm good
[2:38:22] with them. But I do think we
[2:38:23] do. And and of course, of the
[2:38:26] comments underneath the
[2:38:27] building bring that back
[2:38:27] eventually. But so you can
[2:38:28] comment to people while we're
[2:38:32] on break. You know, in AUGUST.
[2:38:32] I think this scheduled find
[2:38:36] except just. Break it up and
[2:38:37] half days for the large spaces
[2:38:41] and hourly on those 2, the c
[2:38:42] and d space agree with those
[2:38:43] comments. Commissioner Truex,
[2:38:43] you're recognized, sir. Thank
[2:38:47] you, MR. CHAIRMAN, I need you
[2:38:48] have tell you, I do your job
[2:38:49] that will point out a few
[2:38:52] things. Make sure everybody
[2:38:53] understands we go a half days.
[2:38:53] There's going to turn over
[2:38:54] time. They're going to clean
[2:38:55] the route. Prep it for
[2:38:58] whoever's coming in next.
[2:38:59] >> Comm. Truex: So you're
[2:39:00] going to have to design with
[2:39:00] that have to actually looks
[2:39:01] like now because he's going to
[2:39:03] start at 9 11, 30 and then
[2:39:05] that person can come into 1
[2:39:06] o'clock or, you know, how
[2:39:07] account flexibility can you
[2:39:10] have with that? The the other
[2:39:11] thing is with the bigger
[2:39:13] rooms. I think it depends on
[2:39:14] the the number of people and
[2:39:16] what the event is as to
[2:39:17] whether or not you're going to
[2:39:18] be able to do to events in the
[2:39:20] day on some of these bigger
[2:39:21] rooms. I were going to provide
[2:39:22] you some flexibility, but we
[2:39:25] can provide have to be rates
[2:39:26] to have to should be more than
[2:39:28] half of the full-day, right?
[2:39:28] Right. It's got to be more
[2:39:29] help cover for the turnover
[2:39:31] intellect and stuff. 2 point,
[2:39:34] which is why we went to the
[2:39:35] full day I understand that.
[2:39:38] But understand where the board
[2:39:39] sounds like to go. And I don't
[2:39:40] necessarily agree or disagree.
[2:39:40] I just know that logistically
[2:39:43] it's going to be an issue and
[2:39:44] that you MAY have to come back
[2:39:44] to us and say, look, this is
[2:39:47] working.
[2:39:47] >> Well, and again, if the
[2:39:51] direction of the board is to
[2:39:51] provide a half-day to full-day
[2:39:52] and we can only rent it for a
[2:39:54] half day and then have to sit
[2:39:55] vacant because we didn't have
[2:39:57] the ability to flip it and
[2:39:57] find another user. Then we'll
[2:39:59] just get the half-day rate. We
[2:40:02] will get a full day rate
[2:40:03] right? But what we can
[2:40:04] implement anything that will
[2:40:07] tell if you want us to do. But
[2:40:07] 20 that that was the
[2:40:08] rationale, specifically why we
[2:40:11] went to the larger full day
[2:40:12] but yeah, we we can do it. It
[2:40:14] just it will potentially
[2:40:17] create a position where we're
[2:40:18] only reading Half-days right
[2:40:19] instead of potentially getting
[2:40:21] a full. That's what needs to
[2:40:21] be. We need to have higher
[2:40:23] number than what we think for
[2:40:24] half a day because we're going
[2:40:25] to lose efficiencies and we're
[2:40:28] going to lose ability for
[2:40:28] full-day certain.
[2:40:29] >> Situations might have to be
[2:40:33] like a half a day premium some
[2:40:34] commissioner Constance into
[2:40:35] yet. I agree, you know, I
[2:40:36] think right, if you cut it in
[2:40:38] half its not have too many
[2:40:39] money, there's going to be an
[2:40:40] additional, you know, kicker
[2:40:40] that you've got to work in
[2:40:44] because of a low of turning
[2:40:44] over.
[2:40:45] >> And then there probably
[2:40:46] should be a minimum per hour.
[2:40:46] Don't just divide by 8 or
[2:40:50] whatever the number is for the
[2:40:51] smaller, you know, rooms, bc
[2:40:52] meeting, Sweet. And that's the
[2:40:54] smaller amount of the room.
[2:40:55] Conference, you know, you MAY
[2:40:56] have to it MAY have to still
[2:40:58] be $50 an hour. Something I
[2:40:59] don't know what your you've
[2:41:00] got to charge, what it's
[2:41:02] costing you. So you know, I
[2:41:03] get in somebody's looking go
[2:41:04] if it's 15, our guests already
[2:41:05] for the whole day, but give
[2:41:07] them the opportunity to to to
[2:41:10] apply for at least a fraction.
[2:41:10] >> And you know, everybody
[2:41:12] would be that. Thank Thank
[2:41:15] Commissioner recognized define
[2:41:20] a de force.
[2:41:21] >> are in our intention is is
[2:41:23] we will do a day so you can
[2:41:24] have it from the sun up to the
[2:41:25] sun down. If that's what you
[2:41:28] want, you can go into the
[2:41:29] evening. There's hours in a
[2:41:30] day where women don't have any
[2:41:33] guidelines on specifically
[2:41:34] what someone wants to have a
[2:41:35] breakfast they can get in
[2:41:39] there at 06:00am. No. And to
[2:41:39] that point, yes. So to that,
[2:41:41] yes, we have liked the sailing
[2:41:42] club, right? They do there.
[2:41:43] Got have done their regain
[2:41:46] their sailing regatta there in
[2:41:47] the past. They started early
[2:41:48] right and they get breakfast
[2:41:49] is part of their function. We
[2:41:50] have people that are doing
[2:41:50] weddings until the middle of
[2:41:52] the night right? So we want to
[2:41:56] be as flexible as we can. We
[2:41:57] were really the again, we can
[2:41:58] slice up the rates, however we
[2:42:00] want. But yeah, we're want to
[2:42:01] be as amenable is
[2:42:03] accommodating to event
[2:42:04] producers on whatever they
[2:42:05] need to be in. If they want
[2:42:05] early. Great. If they want
[2:42:08] late. Great. Then I think
[2:42:10] you're going to have to define
[2:42:12] your portions of a day by
[2:42:13] hours because you're going to
[2:42:15] have some groups. But you know
[2:42:20] what the breakfast coming this
[2:42:20] week?
[2:42:21] >> Comm. Deutsch: You know,
[2:42:22] they probably will want to
[2:42:22] have its the breakfast is
[2:42:23] going to be 7, 7.30. They're
[2:42:24] going to want to have access
[2:42:26] to 06:00am someone's having a
[2:42:27] New Year's Eve party, they're
[2:42:29] going to want to go to 1
[2:42:30] o'clock in the morning. So I
[2:42:33] think you're going to need
[2:42:34] some defying guidelines in
[2:42:35] terms of an hour and then
[2:42:37] break it up into segments
[2:42:38] because if someone wants to
[2:42:42] have a breakfast. There
[2:42:43] shouldn't be any is going to
[2:42:44] have an afternoon meeting
[2:42:45] because the breakfast people
[2:42:47] will be out of that 10, 11
[2:42:48] o'clock. You could have it
[2:42:52] ready for something at 12. 1
[2:42:53] o'clock. And is an afternoon
[2:42:55] meeting there and someone
[2:42:56] wanted to have a dinner That
[2:42:57] could also word. I think we
[2:43:01] might make sense. It's a take.
[2:43:03] An our peer group of span of
[2:43:06] hours and then break it into
[2:43:07] segments. And then, you know,
[2:43:10] you read by that now you have
[2:43:11] to decide because I don't know
[2:43:15] what to recommend. Is an
[2:43:17] evening event worth more per
[2:43:18] hour than a breakfast of I
[2:43:19] don't know the answer to that,
[2:43:20] but I think you're going to
[2:43:23] want some equity in terms of
[2:43:24] the available hours, but I'm
[2:43:25] sure they're going to have
[2:43:26] people that are going want to
[2:43:30] get in there 06:00am. And you
[2:43:31] know that we have some other
[2:43:32] things to deal with based on
[2:43:33] the type of an event later,
[2:43:36] you're going to let them go.
[2:43:37] Would you let them go to one
[2:43:39] or 2 o'clock in the morning?
[2:43:43] For a Let's say so. I think
[2:43:44] you've got a little bit more
[2:43:46] depth, the Jenin, because
[2:43:47] you're going to have some
[2:43:50] unique situations come up. So
[2:43:51] thank you for your comments. I
[2:43:52] appreciate that discharge for
[2:43:56] me. These are professional
[2:43:57] recommendations based upon the
[2:43:57] review of comparable Ys in a 3
[2:44:01] county area.
[2:44:02] >> If you don't think this is
[2:44:03] going to work out well for the
[2:44:04] community, we can just stick
[2:44:05] with an hourly rate that we're
[2:44:09] charging in just a square him
[2:44:10] We can make this work. I don't
[2:44:11] you think that this is like
[2:44:12] we're trying to shoehorn this.
[2:44:13] And when you ask about like
[2:44:15] morning or night, this is why
[2:44:16] there is a proposed one rate
[2:44:19] for the day to not make it as
[2:44:22] complicated as it can be. When
[2:44:23] you start adding different
[2:44:24] layers into it, it adds
[2:44:27] complexities to the users. How
[2:44:28] how much they are trying to
[2:44:31] you know, prepare their
[2:44:31] budgeting for high only to 4
[2:44:35] hours compared to. This is the
[2:44:37] simplistic most professional
[2:44:38] way of doing it. This is the
[2:44:40] way most of it facilities
[2:44:41] produce. Their rate schedule
[2:44:43] is on this. It's either on a
[2:44:44] day rate on an hourly basis.
[2:44:46] We are recommending a day for
[2:44:46] the east of everyone, but an
[2:44:48] hourly can be just as easy. I
[2:44:49] mean, if if you would like it
[2:44:51] to stick hourly, we have 100%
[2:44:53] can do that. That's that's not
[2:44:53] that difficult for us to do. I
[2:44:55] think you're going to have to
[2:44:56] have an open mind on that. The
[2:45:00] reason why is?
[2:45:01] >> Comm. Deutsch: There are
[2:45:01] certain groups that I'm aware
[2:45:02] of that least a half a dozen
[2:45:05] that have breakfast, they're
[2:45:06] not going want to be there in
[2:45:09] the And if you have someone to
[2:45:12] a breakfast and route of their
[2:45:13] 10 11 or 10, 30 11, you might
[2:45:15] be able to have a lunch and or
[2:45:17] isn't of the same day. And if
[2:45:19] this is going to be some type
[2:45:20] of profit center to some
[2:45:21] degree that it's going to help
[2:45:23] pay back the cost of the
[2:45:24] operation. It might be a
[2:45:27] little bit more staff time.
[2:45:28] What if you could rent it out
[2:45:28] for breakfast, lunch and
[2:45:31] supper to 3 different groups.
[2:45:35] It's going to financially be
[2:45:37] greater benefit to your
[2:45:38] operation, but obviously
[2:45:39] requires some staff cleanup
[2:45:42] time. But I think you're going
[2:45:43] to be flexible because of I
[2:45:45] was running an evening dinner
[2:45:47] or breakfast in the morning. I
[2:45:48] really wouldn't want to have
[2:45:49] to pay for the whole thing all
[2:45:50] day. If I know I'm going to be
[2:45:53] out of every 3 hours. So I
[2:45:54] think you might want to take a
[2:45:56] deeper dive and take a look
[2:45:57] those possibilities,
[2:46:00] particularly. If you could
[2:46:00] have 2 or 3 events of the day
[2:46:02] and make them work and have
[2:46:03] the staff or make them work
[2:46:06] that. You come out. If you
[2:46:07] come out a few bucks ahead,
[2:46:08] which I think is part of the
[2:46:10] goal. Thank you, Sir.
[2:46:15] Commissioner Constance, thank
[2:46:15] you.
[2:46:16] >> Comm. Constance: The time
[2:46:17] is your intention for this
[2:46:17] facility to be open. 24 hours
[2:46:19] a day, 7 days a week.
[2:46:20] >> That's what the renters
[2:46:21] need. We're willing to meet
[2:46:21] whatever the committee wants
[2:46:25] us to It.
[2:46:26] >> Comm. Constance: And I
[2:46:27] guess you just see the fine is
[2:46:30] is a day 06:00am to 06:00am.
[2:46:30] >> Or
[2:46:31] >> Comm. Constance: midnight
[2:46:32] to midnight. You know what?
[2:46:33] What is what is the day don't
[2:46:36] answer that. Now. Look back at
[2:46:37] the programming to make it
[2:46:38] fit. You know, I would assume
[2:46:39] that he's really going to be
[2:46:40] there before 06:00am. So maybe
[2:46:43] that's when the day starts and
[2:46:43] late events that go past
[2:46:44] midnight aren't going to
[2:46:48] finish much past one or 2. So
[2:46:49] but I think that's part of the
[2:46:49] calculus that we need to
[2:46:51] understand how are you? How is
[2:46:53] that being programmed to fit
[2:46:57] this? We're Just curious, but
[2:47:00] no, I don't have an issue. I
[2:47:01] think simplicity because then
[2:47:02] you've got to have somebody
[2:47:02] sitting there and figuring
[2:47:04] this all out unless you want
[2:47:05] to leave it to an ai bot. Will
[2:47:08] the to your point earlier of
[2:47:08] you want the customer to have
[2:47:09] the ability to kind of sell
[2:47:13] for do it themselves.
[2:47:14] >> Comm. Constance: More
[2:47:15] layers makes it more difficult
[2:47:15] and cumbersome for a user to
[2:47:16] do that navigate themselves as
[2:47:21] well. And so I'm trying to
[2:47:22] take as many fevers notice
[2:47:23] possible because I heard a lot
[2:47:27] of different feedback. Tried
[2:47:29] it. I don't have a consensus.
[2:47:30] Nasa, some working on likely
[2:47:32] is that you still have the
[2:47:32] floor. But was everybody ok
[2:47:35] with the dynamic pricing?
[2:47:40] >> Just to put that out there.
[2:47:40] Which was a Monday through
[2:47:41] Thursday, one rate Friday,
[2:47:42] Saturday, Sunday, a different
[2:47:43] rate. That's that's we. Yeah.
[2:47:45] I mean, If your constant use
[2:47:50] use No, I appreciate the
[2:47:50] research does. This is this is
[2:47:51] based on factual stuff. Not
[2:47:52] hey, we just pull this out of
[2:47:53] the air. So that's important
[2:47:54] with the bases.
[2:47:58] >> Comm. Constance: It all
[2:47:58] makes sense. And I just think
[2:47:59] you've heard you've heard the
[2:48:00] comments. I don't know that
[2:48:01] I'm ready to vote on this. I'd
[2:48:02] like you to bring we have
[2:48:02] time. You know, you bring it
[2:48:04] back. But, you know, take the
[2:48:07] comments that have been made
[2:48:08] and let's try to make. But I
[2:48:10] understand the more complex it
[2:48:13] is the war work. It is for one
[2:48:13] or 2 of your staff to kind of
[2:48:17] keep this all figured out. So.
[2:48:18] And come back, please with
[2:48:20] with some technology options
[2:48:20] because I think that's
[2:48:22] important. If there's a way to
[2:48:26] to free up rooms with, you
[2:48:27] know, digital locks as opposed
[2:48:28] to you got to have somebody
[2:48:29] there unless somebody is
[2:48:30] there. 24 7, but that's that's
[2:48:32] another story that's that's 3
[2:48:33] fte that have and the
[2:48:38] building.
[2:48:38] >> Well, it definitely will
[2:48:39] take more than 3 ft in the
[2:48:41] building, but we have not
[2:48:42] built what you're proposing
[2:48:44] into the model. So any of
[2:48:45] those upgrades or additions to
[2:48:46] the building are going to have
[2:48:48] to come as and additional
[2:48:49] technology package. So I don't
[2:48:50] know that will be able to
[2:48:54] bring that at the next time. I
[2:48:55] bring back rates anybody else?
[2:49:00] But that I guess find really
[2:49:01] per se in the event world.
[2:49:01] Again, let's just use the
[2:49:02] event center as an example,
[2:49:03] right when you're in a space
[2:49:03] that the event center, you go
[2:49:05] to an event event center. The
[2:49:06] staff there open the doors.
[2:49:10] They make sure that everything
[2:49:12] from custodial to security to
[2:49:14] they're doing fnb as food and
[2:49:15] beverage. So they're doing all
[2:49:15] of those pieces. And then when
[2:49:16] you leave, they locked the
[2:49:19] door behind you right? That is
[2:49:20] the service that's provided
[2:49:21] because these are event
[2:49:22] spaces, right? It's not a
[2:49:23] pavilion where you're just
[2:49:24] going to have a birthday
[2:49:27] party. You're going in to have
[2:49:28] a wedding for 500 people that
[2:49:28] is going to be catered and
[2:49:29] have a sit-down plated event,
[2:49:33] right? So it's a it's a little
[2:49:33] bit different of a model than
[2:49:34] some of the things that are
[2:49:37] doing. I mean, we have if
[2:49:38] somebody wants to rent a park
[2:49:40] space or pavilion, you 100%
[2:49:41] can go online. Rent that
[2:49:42] space. Get your permit and
[2:49:43] never have to interact with
[2:49:46] any of our staff right. But
[2:49:47] the difference between that
[2:49:49] and what we're providing at at
[2:49:50] this event facility. It's just
[2:49:53] light years apart. I have to
[2:49:53] do a whole lot of research to
[2:49:55] figure out any other event
[2:49:56] producing space is doing what
[2:49:57] you're proposing. I just don't
[2:49:59] know when you if you if you
[2:50:00] have this facility in essence,
[2:50:03] open 24 hours a day, 7 a week
[2:50:08] at minimum, you have to have 3
[2:50:08] people.
[2:50:09] >> Comm. Constance: 8 hour
[2:50:10] shifts for the entire week.
[2:50:10] Somebody if one person is
[2:50:12] there, that's 3 ft East just
[2:50:13] to keep the building open. So
[2:50:13] let me just right. Trent
[2:50:15] clarified a little bit.
[2:50:17] >> We are willing to do. I
[2:50:18] anticipate that we're going to
[2:50:19] run 24 hours a day, 7 days a
[2:50:23] week. Absolutely not. But to
[2:50:23] Commissioner Dortches point,
[2:50:24] we have somebody who wants to
[2:50:25] a breakfast and we have
[2:50:25] somebody who wants to have
[2:50:27] until 2 in the morning.
[2:50:29] There's a dynamic that goes
[2:50:30] there. We probably and I know
[2:50:31] this is a fact. We don't get a
[2:50:32] lot of 02:00am rentals that
[2:50:33] are Monday, Tuesday,
[2:50:36] Wednesday, right? But that
[2:50:37] doesn't mean if somebody came
[2:50:38] in and wanted to do with that,
[2:50:40] we would be willing to. So I
[2:50:40] don't want you to think that
[2:50:42] we are preparing and staffing
[2:50:43] to work. 24 hours a day, 7
[2:50:46] days a week 3.65. We are just
[2:50:47] willing to work with our
[2:50:48] customers to meet whatever
[2:50:50] their needs and desires are.
[2:50:52] So we're not geared up to do
[2:50:55] that. But if an event came in
[2:50:56] said we want load in it for to
[2:50:57] do a 06:00am breakfast to be
[2:51:00] out of that. We're willing to
[2:51:01] work with our customers,
[2:51:02] period. Thank thank you. I put
[2:51:06] myself into queue when you did
[2:51:06] your comparison to the other
[2:51:08] counties, define what a day
[2:51:12] was, wasn't limited to like 8
[2:51:13] hours, whether was started no
[2:51:14] matter what time it started, 8
[2:51:17] hours is considered a day. So
[2:51:20] I did as one of the
[2:51:21] attachments attach the
[2:51:22] comparable benchmarking that
[2:51:24] we put in there. So I'm just
[2:51:25] don't want go And a teenager
[2:51:25] comparable have half day
[2:51:30] rentals. I don't believe that.
[2:51:36] I remember half day rentals. I
[2:51:36] do believe it's day or days or
[2:51:40] some had hours, but it's a
[2:51:42] matter here's some of the head
[2:51:42] of a four-hour max so that
[2:51:43] when they could turn quicker,
[2:51:46] okay. Because I assume you do
[2:51:47] not reinventing the wheel
[2:51:48] here. All these other event
[2:51:49] spaces that were comparable.
[2:51:52] Must've come up against, you
[2:51:53] know, hourly half-day. What's
[2:51:57] today? And you had mentioned
[2:51:58] early, you have people waiting
[2:51:58] to lease up is correct. And I
[2:52:03] don't want to the labor this
[2:52:04] thing much longer when we're
[2:52:05] losing out on rentals getting
[2:52:06] booked up. But I also want to
[2:52:10] do it correctly. I appreciate
[2:52:11] the advisory board
[2:52:13] recommending the schedule. I
[2:52:14] don't I don't necessarily
[2:52:14] district this. I don't
[2:52:16] disagree with the schedule. My
[2:52:17] only issue, my one big issue
[2:52:19] is how do we handle the
[2:52:20] bottom, which you can come
[2:52:20] back later? That's fine on
[2:52:24] that. In the affordability to
[2:52:25] get to a half a day, if
[2:52:25] somebody is literally meeting
[2:52:27] for 2 hours, I think you can
[2:52:31] sell them on a half a day. If
[2:52:32] that's, you know, what do you
[2:52:33] consider half a 24 hours a
[2:52:35] day, do they get it for 12 day
[2:52:36] hours? Is that a half a day?
[2:52:38] They see that. That's the
[2:52:40] thing. Those are my only 2
[2:52:45] issues right now is getting
[2:52:45] too being able to lease for
[2:52:47] less than a day. And how we
[2:52:50] handle the bottom. But we do
[2:52:54] need to do. Get this back
[2:52:54] before the board as soon as
[2:52:55] possible. So you can start
[2:52:56] renting up because we're going
[2:52:57] to be losing out on on rentals
[2:52:58] because we don't have a
[2:53:01] schedule. So we need, you
[2:53:02] know, we don't have an
[2:53:03] approved schedule. Yes, that
[2:53:03] is correct. So it's hard to to
[2:53:06] lease up. Unless unless you
[2:53:09] take deposits the final
[2:53:12] schedule just to reserve. So
[2:53:13] the people that have been
[2:53:15] talking to us are unwilling to
[2:53:16] do that until they know what
[2:53:17] the rental rates are going to
[2:53:19] be because they don't want to
[2:53:20] put a deposit down and work
[2:53:23] towards a wedding location
[2:53:24] that we're going to come back
[2:53:25] in SEPTEMBER OCTOBER and tell
[2:53:26] them that the rate is
[2:53:28] different. Even if they know
[2:53:29] having watched this or
[2:53:30] whatever, that this is the
[2:53:32] range, that that might be a
[2:53:34] change, a nexus for them that
[2:53:34] they've last month's book of
[2:53:35] another venue when when is the
[2:53:37] soon as they try to get
[2:53:39] JANUARY, we are not looking to
[2:53:41] start booking in until
[2:53:43] probably MARCH APRIL as what
[2:53:44] we're looking at But we have
[2:53:45] been asked, we've had people
[2:53:48] start asking us as far out as
[2:53:49] a year in advance, which is
[2:53:50] what we typically will book
[2:53:51] out as a year out. So this
[2:53:53] past MARCH and APRIL, people
[2:53:54] seeing it come out of the
[2:53:55] ground, want to know when they
[2:53:56] could start renting and we
[2:53:58] said we won't rent until we
[2:54:00] have board approved for in all
[2:54:01] it. No one's looking to get in
[2:54:02] there in JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
[2:54:03] We're we're okay. Okay. That's
[2:54:06] good to know. That's good to
[2:54:07] know. But I'm ok generally
[2:54:09] with this proposed fee
[2:54:09] schedule other than those
[2:54:10] things that have already
[2:54:11] stated, Commissioner Truex
[2:54:14] recognized. MR. I'm gonna make
[2:54:15] a motion make a motion that we
[2:54:16] approve what's in front of us
[2:54:17] today and we add modifications
[2:54:18] to it. So anybody who wants to
[2:54:20] do a day rental now?
[2:54:21] >> Comm. Constance: They can
[2:54:24] schedule to tighten and then
[2:54:25] we'll figure out the half day
[2:54:27] in the downstairs future date.
[2:54:28] Beautiful idea. I second was
[2:54:32] to it. Yeah.
[2:54:33] >> Comm. Tiseo: So we have
[2:54:34] motion a second to accept. The
[2:54:34] proposed fee schedule has
[2:54:35] outlined to come back with
[2:54:36] modifications at a later date.
[2:54:38] Is there any further
[2:54:39] discussion? There any
[2:54:42] opposition to the motion
[2:54:42] passes 4 to one with
[2:54:46] Commissioner Deutsche, an
[2:54:46] opposition. Thank you, Tommy.
[2:54:48] Thank you. All right. We're
[2:54:49] we're going to move on to item
[2:54:50] 5 approved the resolution
[2:54:54] lifting the burn ban. Are
[2:54:57] burn. Bans are CHAIRMAN I
[2:54:59] think we need to bring Chief
[2:55:01] Cara. So he has an easy day
[2:55:03] and for the board asked what
[2:55:04] have It's going to be in of
[2:55:06] the burn bans are is here
[2:55:07] today. You're recognize chief
[2:55:08] to present a chart here yet.
[2:55:10] >> Let's see if we get it this
[2:55:10] time.
[2:55:17] >> I see if I can get good.
[2:55:18] >> Comm. Tiseo: chief wakes up
[2:55:18] every morning rolls the dice
[2:55:19] burn ban or no burn from
[2:55:24] Vancouver. Yeah. All right. So
[2:55:24] what's great about this is the
[2:55:26] upstart chief backward for the
[2:55:26] record. So the great part
[2:55:27] about this is the numbers of
[2:55:29] keep coming down with all the
[2:55:29] rain that we have. So make
[2:55:32] this quick for you. You can
[2:55:35] obviously stop me at any time
[2:55:36] currently the average was at
[2:55:39] right around 4.41. At this
[2:55:40] date today, the kbi values
[2:55:43] actually 3.41. This morning.
[2:55:44] So that's a good, good number
[2:55:45] for us as opposed to what it
[2:55:48] was back then what we heard
[2:55:50] last time or what Chief Kerr
[2:55:50] heard last time. And I did on
[2:55:54] the Facebook as I watched it
[2:55:55] was the you wanted more
[2:55:56] information. So this breaks
[2:55:57] down the information a little
[2:56:00] bit better for you guys for
[2:56:00] the board. So you can see how
[2:56:04] the numbers hold up.
[2:56:05] Currently, we only have one
[2:56:08] that that number is not 19.
[2:56:09] Currently. It's only 3% in
[2:56:11] that 500 range. And that's
[2:56:13] change from West County to
[2:56:17] more of an East County area.
[2:56:17] Then we talk about the people
[2:56:21] from a drought 146,000, almost
[2:56:22] 147,000. And then we talk
[2:56:28] about the 92%, 30, 30st drip,
[2:56:28] dry JUNE and record for us. So
[2:56:31] we know it's been dry in JUNE.
[2:56:33] We're getting our water back
[2:56:34] from now. The rain is
[2:56:35] currently and then as you see,
[2:56:36] we're down about 2 inches from
[2:56:39] that. So keep going. You have
[2:56:44] be fast. You go okay. All As
[2:56:46] you know, we had dry dry JUNE
[2:56:46] and moving into the JULY.
[2:56:49] We've got a lot of rain not
[2:56:50] near as much as out West are
[2:56:51] up north, but we are getting
[2:56:54] the rain that we need. It's
[2:56:55] going to be hot. Obviously
[2:56:56] we're looking at that and then
[2:57:00] burn bans all of that counties
[2:57:00] around us have lifted their
[2:57:01] burn bans. A DeSoto was last
[2:57:02] won a lift. There is back in
[2:57:07] edge 2 weeks ago in JULY 14th,
[2:57:08] the only county that's near
[2:57:10] U.S. Test would be hills where
[2:57:10] which typically stays on a
[2:57:14] burn ban the entire time. So
[2:57:17] we're looking for you to
[2:57:18] rescind the burn ban. 3rd,
[2:57:18] Time's a charm. As I think
[2:57:21] someone said week ago. Current
[2:57:25] value is 3.41. Today and that
[2:57:26] for 15. So we would like any
[2:57:32] information on that. Thanks or
[2:57:32] Commissioner Doherty.
[2:57:33] >> Although only had one
[2:57:34] injury to my house in the last
[2:57:34] 2 weeks, a move approval of
[2:57:35] the resolution to second
[2:57:36] motion. A second admissions
[2:57:39] director that okay, any
[2:57:39] further discussion any app
[2:57:42] says the motion that passes
[2:57:43] unanimously the burn ban is
[2:57:45] rescinded. Okay. We'll move on
[2:57:48] to item number 6. Thank you,
[2:57:49] chief. Yes, we move on to item
[2:57:53] number 6, the animal, but
[2:57:53] getting Hector, I was going
[2:57:54] speak on numbers the next.
[2:57:55] Okay. Animal Welfare League
[2:57:57] item number 6, MR. Flores,
[2:57:57] you're recognized. Okay. Thank
[2:58:03] you. MISTER Chair
[2:58:04] >> Comm. Constance: the art
[2:58:04] speak earlier, tariff from
[2:58:05] animal Welfare league kind of
[2:58:08] touched on So I appreciate her
[2:58:10] comments. The item we did
[2:58:11] revise it up. See for the
[2:58:12] change memo added the
[2:58:13] amendment. Number one of the
[2:58:14] agreement we felt it was best
[2:58:18] just to make sure we formalize
[2:58:20] the extension had offered up
[2:58:21] in our in negotiations and
[2:58:21] discussions with them. So
[2:58:24] that's what that item is. Just
[2:58:25] to add, though, we are
[2:58:27] shooting for bringing a final
[2:58:27] agreement to you at their
[2:58:31] SEPTEMBER 8th board meeting. I
[2:58:31] believe we'll get there. I
[2:58:34] know our team just got some of
[2:58:35] their responses. So they're
[2:58:37] they're reviewing that as we
[2:58:39] speak. And at times outright
[2:58:41] your other agenda item, you
[2:58:42] adjusted our fine or first
[2:58:43] budget public hearing will now
[2:58:44] be Monday, SEPTEMBER 14th that
[2:58:47] following Monday. So right now
[2:58:50] we've got just the current
[2:58:52] contract with with Animal
[2:58:54] Welfare league. So any
[2:58:54] adjustment why would want to
[2:58:55] make going into that final
[2:58:59] budget public hearing? So?
[2:58:59] >> Again, bring it to you is
[2:59:01] our goal for SEPTEMBER 8. So
[2:59:02] again, appreciate the team in
[2:59:03] animal Welfare Really the
[2:59:05] folks that have been doing,
[2:59:06] obviously the the heavy
[2:59:08] lifting on our end. I want to
[2:59:08] defer some of that. Thanks and
[2:59:13] appreciation to Chief McIlroy
[2:59:14] Division manager, Caitlin, so
[2:59:15] that they've got their work to
[2:59:16] finalize. But that sits up
[2:59:17] embracing what we're looking
[2:59:18] for. Thank you, sir. To have a
[2:59:20] motion to approve amendment
[2:59:20] one to the U.S. Really so move
[2:59:21] second. We have motion second
[2:59:22] to approve manager. Any
[2:59:23] further discussion.
[2:59:28] >> Any absence, the motion
[2:59:28] that passes unanimously move
[2:59:29] on to item number 7, Charlotte
[2:59:30] County Sheriff's Office
[2:59:32] funding opportunity. MR.
[2:59:33] Arthur, you're recognize that
[2:59:36] afternoon as of right now,
[2:59:41] Rick Arthur, fiscal services.
[2:59:42] The sheriff is identified in
[2:59:42] additional funding
[2:59:43] opportunities. So we're just
[2:59:44] bringing a resolution
[2:59:45] authorizing the county
[2:59:46] administrator to apply for
[2:59:47] this doj grant on behalf of
[2:59:48] the share. Any questions for
[2:59:51] staff? Commissioner, do
[2:59:52] recognize move the resolutions
[2:59:52] motion second move resolution?
[2:59:53] Is there any further
[2:59:55] discussion? Is there any
[2:59:59] opposition to the motion that
[3:00:00] passes? You know, Matt
[3:00:02] unanimously moving on to item
[3:00:02] number 8, set a public hearing
[3:00:04] to consider approving an
[3:00:04] ordinance to prohibit
[3:00:05] oversized vehicles parking on
[3:00:06] the county right of way, MR.
[3:00:10] Flores. Did you have any
[3:00:11] comments on that are going to
[3:00:16] present no? I think that it
[3:00:18] was just said that I can speak
[3:00:19] to it ok, we have we have
[3:00:20] major issues in areas where we
[3:00:24] have tractor trailers and
[3:00:25] >> and bigger. Huge parking in
[3:00:25] right away where you can't see
[3:00:26] it around corners. It's a
[3:00:29] growing problem. Charlotte
[3:00:30] County and public works in
[3:00:31] legal put together. Those were
[3:00:32] the opportunity to bring this
[3:00:33] to a close and I would move
[3:00:37] approval of scent. Okay. That
[3:00:38] we have motion is second to
[3:00:39] approve the item. Is there any
[3:00:43] further discussion?
[3:00:44] Commissioner Constance?
[3:00:44] >> Comm. Constance: I'm
[3:00:45] appreciative of this and agree
[3:00:46] with the moving forward. Also,
[3:00:46] there's a lot of trucks that
[3:00:51] are just parking on the street
[3:00:51] and unloading. And so I I look
[3:00:54] to the sheriff and
[3:00:55] >> and chief deputy to keep
[3:00:57] doing a good job of citing
[3:01:02] those trucks. They just.
[3:01:03] >> Comm. Constance: Youve got
[3:01:03] small roads and you can see
[3:01:04] past them in the year. All you
[3:01:05] have to go over a double
[3:01:08] yellow line. It's absolutely
[3:01:08] illegal to be parking, not
[3:01:12] just to the right away in the
[3:01:12] street and it's around a lot
[3:01:13] of our industrial facility.
[3:01:14] Lot of our health care
[3:01:15] facilities. So we've got to
[3:01:19] make sure that we've got
[3:01:19] better enforcement and they
[3:01:20] they got to show up sort of
[3:01:21] toward the afternoon. The
[3:01:22] trucks are there every single
[3:01:23] day. It's just got to stop.
[3:01:25] And we got him. Big fines. So
[3:01:30] thank Disagree with that. Any
[3:01:30] further discussion?
[3:01:31] >> Comm. Tiseo: Any opposition
[3:01:31] to the motion that passes
[3:01:32] unanimously. We're gonna move
[3:01:33] onto t one, which is our 3rd
[3:01:34] quarter budget adjustments.
[3:01:39] Mrrt recognized to present.
[3:01:40] Good afternoon. Commissioners
[3:01:41] regard their fiscal services.
[3:01:43] As you know, fiscal services
[3:01:45] monitors the budget on ongoing
[3:01:46] basis throughout the fiscal
[3:01:48] year and quarterly. We bring
[3:01:50] back any necessary adjustments
[3:01:53] to the board for approval and
[3:01:55] review. And so this is our 3rd
[3:01:56] quarter budget adjustments for
[3:01:57] fiscal year 26. Any questions
[3:02:01] for staff? I'm hoping to sign
[3:02:01] up to the public. Anybody
[3:02:02] wishing speak on this item.
[3:02:04] Please come forward. You'll
[3:02:04] have 5 minutes. Anybody from
[3:02:06] the public wishing to speak on
[3:02:08] item t one 3rd quarter budget
[3:02:08] adjustments. Please come
[3:02:13] forward. You have 5 minutes.
[3:02:14] MR. Rising move close, public
[3:02:15] input so motion seconded close
[3:02:15] public input. Is there any
[3:02:18] further discussion? Turning
[3:02:22] out motion? Public input is
[3:02:23] closed, MR. CHAIRMAN move the
[3:02:23] resolution that we have motion
[3:02:24] second to move resolution. Is
[3:02:27] there any further discussion?
[3:02:28] Is there any opposition to the
[3:02:30] motion that passes unanimously
[3:02:31] move on to item t 3
[3:02:32] conservation? Charlotte
[3:02:32] Renewal resolution and
[3:02:35] referendum.
[3:02:45] >> Good afternoon.
[3:02:46] Commissioners Tina Powel
[3:02:49] Park's natural resources
[3:02:50] manager few weeks back. I came
[3:02:51] and presented an update on
[3:02:52] conservation Charlotte as well
[3:02:53] as the proposed ballot
[3:02:56] language. As for the renewal.
[3:02:57] And this is our public hearing
[3:02:59] to approve the ballot language
[3:03:00] and the resolution that puts
[3:03:01] that on the ballot this
[3:03:06] NOVEMBER. Any questions for
[3:03:06] staff?
[3:03:07] >> Comm. Tiseo: An open this
[3:03:08] up to the public for public
[3:03:08] comment. Anybody from the
[3:03:09] public wishing to speak on
[3:03:10] this item? You'll have 5
[3:03:10] minutes. Please come forward
[3:03:11] state. Your name for the
[3:03:12] record. Anybody wishing to
[3:03:15] speak on item t 3. Please come
[3:03:16] forward. You'll have 5 minutes
[3:03:17] state your name for the
[3:03:17] record, MR. CHAIRMAN us, you
[3:03:20] know, when rising moved close,
[3:03:21] public input. So remotest
[3:03:22] motion in a second to close
[3:03:23] public input. Is there any
[3:03:24] further discussion? There any
[3:03:28] opposition to the motion? That
[3:03:29] passes unanimously public
[3:03:29] input is closed, MR. CHAIRMAN
[3:03:32] move the resolution. Have a
[3:03:32] motion seconded the
[3:03:33] resolution. Is there any
[3:03:34] further discussion? Is there
[3:03:36] any opposition to the motion
[3:03:40] that passes unanimously?
[3:03:41] Gentlemen, we've completed our
[3:03:43] morning agenda. We are in
[3:03:44] recess recess until 01:00pm
[3:04:22] >> Comm. Tiseo: Go
[3:04:23] afternn, ladies and
[3:04:23] gentleman. Welco back to the
[3:04:24] Charlotte Countyoard of
[3:04:25] unty commissioners rular
[3:04:25] inand use meeting for
[3:04:27] esday, 7/28/20. Let the
[3:04:31] record show all commsioners
[3:04:32] are present. We'veow arrived
[3:04:35] at our 01:00pm pubc input.
[3:04:35] Any subject, abody wishing
[3:04:36] to address the brd during
[3:04:37] this portion of the eting
[3:04:37] mu state their name fothe
[3:04:40] reco remarks on any county
[3:04:42] lated subject of limited
[3:04:42] to 3 minutes and sha be
[3:04:44] dressed to the commission as
[3:04:44] a body and n to individual
[3:04:45] members will n be any
[3:04:47] scussion. And to sak.
[3:04:48] Plea come forward state ur
[3:04:50] nameor the record.
[3:05:08] >> Good afternn, MR.
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[3:05:15] regarding thmatter of
[3:05:19] importance to the taayers.
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[3:05:22] from Florida Deptment of
[3:05:23] vironment Protectionand
[3:05:24] U.S.Rmy Corps engineers some
[3:05:25] years ago toredge the
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[3:05:36] one-fifth of an ac of
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[3:05:44] minusce. They still quired
[3:05:44] current county at the
[3:05:47] expense ofhe taxpayers
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[3:05:49] planng and monitoring se
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[3:05:53] Charlotte Harbor f 5 years
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[3:05:57] the coun's contractor
[3:05:59] reported on the seagrass
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[3:06:01] at 2 of the primary
[3:06:05] ccess criteria were plicit
[3:06:06] achieved and the 3r
[3:06:06] criteriaad been met until
[3:06:08] the migation areas were
[3:06:10] destroyed bymultiple
[3:06:11] hurricanes a successive
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[3:06:15] dp is w asserting that the
[3:06:16] county must begin. Another
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[3:06:40] failed and provides multiple
[3:06:41] ways the pject can be seen
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[3:06:53] with its ownregulatio and
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[3:07:14] project demands.Ebbie says
[3:07:17] that doesn't count but s own
[3:07:19] regulations at Florida
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[3:07:32] and I and ny of my neighbors
[3:07:36] believe thcounty. Shou
[3:07:37] adhereo the position
[3:07:38] asserted by e Msbu Advisory
[3:07:42] board. And we ge you to
[3:07:44] tertain meeting beeen the
[3:07:44] adsory board chair. An
[3:07:48] there's anourselves to fully
[3:07:50] appreciate the accuracy of the
[3:07:51] position papeand to direct
[3:07:51] staff to coopera better with
[3:07:55] the advisory board to save th
[3:07:56] county mey by asseing the
[3:07:57] gitimate right to coider
[3:08:01] thproject complete. Our
[3:08:01] posion is in the county'
[3:08:02] best entnce and we should be
[3:08:04] fully inrmed about it. Thank
[3:08:07] you. Thank you. Andishing
[3:08:08] eak. Please come forrd
[3:08:09] stat Your name for the
[3:08:23] record. Yohave 3 minutes.
[3:08:33] >> Aftnoon commissioners.
[3:08:38] Name Roy Ekeleri live in
[3:08:38] Babcock Ranch. I with the
[3:08:39] American Legion Postbout
[3:08:42] Coran pose for 15. I'm here
[3:08:46] today to speak to u all
[3:08:48] out 31 for old Farm use.
[3:08:50] As Amerin Legion memr. We
[3:08:52] ha brand new. We have not
[3:08:57] unable to start I'm not money
[3:08:58] to get opposed. Buthat
[3:08:59] ilding sitting o there
[3:09:00] ve been staying therfor 2
[3:09:02] yes without being used. We
[3:09:03] thought we wld come and
[3:09:03] asked if we could ve it.
[3:09:07] Either with Alice ojust take
[3:09:08] it oveto build out as our
[3:09:15] American Legion Po. As state
[3:09:17] Senator Albritton a
[3:09:18] ough Oliver. If we c have
[3:09:21] so money to build. He got as
[3:09:23] far as the governor'office.
[3:09:24] The gornor shot it down du
[3:09:26] to the ct he Making his
[3:09:32] budget. So. I ha talked to.
[3:09:37] E mmissioner here and he
[3:09:38] did good job trying to hp
[3:09:44] us. No call the
[3:09:45] adminirator's office.
[3:09:47] Message is nev return. Call.
[3:09:47] The otr day. What I was
[3:09:52] eating. Like it staurant. I
[3:09:56] got a call real tate stating
[3:09:57] that we couldn't ve it, that
[3:09:58] they were going tose it or
[3:10:00] stors in further
[3:10:01] investigation. I fou out
[3:10:04] th. The couy is deciding
[3:10:06] to tear down, bud a brand
[3:10:09] nefirehouse in that ar. I
[3:10:12] don't understand why. Because
[3:10:13] bcock Ranch is. And I
[3:10:14] understand living near theye
[3:10:15] going build another who fa
[3:10:19] else. Arlotte County. So
[3:10:21] at being said, I woullike
[3:10:25] to pose itYou all please
[3:10:28] look intit and letters. Have
[3:10:30] ito build out. We takcare
[3:10:34] ofhe. Veterans are we ha
[3:10:38] suppord the veterans there
[3:10:38] The H.O. Kitson and partners
[3:10:42] has. Let e their facilities
[3:10:45] for nothin We can't make
[3:10:49] money without hang a.
[3:10:54] Opposed to do thati have.
[3:10:55] Some handouthere for you
[3:10:59] all. I had ai'megally blind
[3:11:02] low vision its. 4 pages lon
[3:11:03] So whei found that out,
[3:11:10] for type up for you. So tt
[3:11:14] is. What Iould like to
[3:11:19] propose to the cmissioners.
[3:11:20] >> Thankou, sir. Thank you
[3:11:20] for commen. Thank you for
[3:11:23] your service. Ank you. My
[3:11:24] formation. He's on t
[3:11:25] bottomf the. Thank you.
[3:11:28] Thank yo sir. And Bill
[3:11:29] wish sak. Please come
[3:11:31] forward.
[3:11:39] >> Good afteoon, MR.
[3:11:40] CHAIRMAN members of e board,
[3:11:42] my name is John hwend. I'm
[3:11:44] the CHAIRMAN Of thPirate
[3:11:48] Harbor Werway and must
[3:11:49] adviry board. I come to u
[3:11:50] with or 30 years of
[3:11:51] perience as an experin
[3:11:51] envinmental protection
[3:11:52] working bo for the
[3:11:55] government andor the private
[3:11:56] ctor. I'm also a pro
[3:11:57] memberf a bunch neighborho
[3:11:59] voluntrs who lovand are
[3:12:02] mmitted to taking ca of
[3:12:03] the environmt. Our nehbors
[3:12:05] inust the last 2 years have
[3:12:06] planted hundds mangroves
[3:12:07] to try to salvage small
[3:12:08] isnds damaged in the
[3:12:11] hurricane.We also hav
[3:12:13] carried ndreds of buckets, 5
[3:12:13] ns worth of oyster slls
[3:12:16] and our votes outo a spot
[3:12:17] working with the Crlotte
[3:12:19] rbor. Uatic Preserve to
[3:12:22] try to resto an oyst reef.
[3:12:23] Are a committed bun of
[3:12:24] peop to the environmt.
[3:12:28] Intestingly enough. Project,
[3:12:29] we also advocated for 7 or8
[3:12:30] yearago was the realignmt
[3:12:34] of ourInterests Channel
[3:12:34] agrass is being damad by
[3:12:35] bos going out.
[3:12:36] Realigng, cutting it deepe
[3:12:40] with minimizthat damage. The
[3:12:41] progress was process project
[3:12:44] was a mitigaon in and of
[3:12:45] itself. Nonethels, we
[3:12:46] reire to grow seagrasso
[3:12:46] replacwhat was damaged in
[3:12:49] the dread.Ntroversy has
[3:12:51] arisen regaing the Florida
[3:12:52] Departme, the Florida
[3:12:52] Department of Enronment
[3:12:55] otections for you that the
[3:12:56] can disregarthe results of
[3:12:57] our seagrass migation
[3:13:00] oject. Dp seeks to force
[3:13:02] the county topend more money
[3:13:04] on anotherroject. Our
[3:13:05] adviry board has taken
[3:13:09] well-rearched position. I
[3:13:10] had sent y once before by
[3:13:13] ma copies to get it toyou
[3:13:14] agaionhy we need not spend
[3:13:17] this money ain, Florida dps
[3:13:19] not even abidi by s own
[3:13:20] gulations. Wanted toearch
[3:13:23] mo must be done. I'mere
[3:13:25] toda Apologetically only
[3:13:27] because our attempts to hel
[3:13:27] the coun in this matter have
[3:13:32] been obfcated. It seems like
[3:13:33] coty staff are trying
[3:13:36] ignores into submiion.
[3:13:38] They want use must besed
[3:13:40] funds for a dierent project
[3:13:46] with fd eps Blesng. We've
[3:13:48] tried hard to support the
[3:13:49] county a we've asked for
[3:13:52] pport from sta and w
[3:13:54] don't get y lp ignored.
[3:13:55] Some examples we asked to be
[3:13:55] involved in e budget process
[3:13:58] for mis be use. Got no
[3:14:02] swer by t time llowed
[3:14:04] , id, Hey,here's where's
[3:14:04] that iitatiowears? How how
[3:14:05] can we discuss theudt?
[3:14:06] Theyaid, oh, you'rtoo
[3:14:06] lateu don't get to
[3:14:08] participate. Anheexample,
[3:14:09] the seagrass pject I
[3:14:15] ioned. Compted in 20,
[3:14:16] there are chargetour
[3:14:18] budg in 2025. 26 for
[3:14:19] seagrass mitation. That
[3:14:21] project 2 years ago. We ask
[3:14:22] for detailednfmation as to
[3:14:23] why we're ill being charged.
[3:14:28] No answer. Wwere promised we
[3:14:28] will be invited t next
[3:14:29] agency mting on the status
[3:14:33] of the seagrass Proje
[3:14:34] Departmenteadershi
[3:14:34] purposely excludeds fr the
[3:14:36] meinwe had been pris
[3:14:37] we wou at and never
[3:14:37] thered. Even tell ust s
[3:14:42] happeng. It is simy king
[3:14:42] toe volved. Thank you.
[3:14:43] Thank you. Thankou. Thk
[3:14:45] yofor yo comment. Yeah.
[3:14:46] Deputy pass those ank yo
[3:14:50] ryuch. Thank you.
[3:14:51] >> Com TiseoAnd best
[3:14:51] shes speak, pleaseome
[3:14:52] forward anhave minutes.
[3:14:53] Ate. Your name for t
[3:14:53] record.
[3:15:12] Go afternoon. Coissioner
[3:15:14] I'd like to thk the 2
[3:15:14] speakersi can image you
[3:15:20] not tting a retu call fm
[3:15:20] staff.
[3:15:21] >> Iginehis county becau
[3:15:21] I offereto bthe lobbyist
[3:15:22] for free to ChlottCounty
[3:15:28] for e year. F free. An
[3:15:30] earlier toy we hrd seeg
[3:15:32] me up heari speak aft
[3:15:38] me. Just wt to make me
[3:15:38] thingseal clear he to
[3:15:46] everybodtoday.Look at is.
[3:15:47] Now APRIL 14th 2ears ago.
[3:15:52] Erybody. Just lo at this
[3:15:56] otball fieldThey'rgonna
[3:16:01] lamentous ale. Now. Ts
[3:16:03] isn't fr septic tank ruff.
[3:16:11] We're ltural runof Thisis
[3:16:11] from the psphate ming
[3:16:15] indust. Tt's mosaic on
[3:16:18] everyby.
[3:16:26] Saic ForMeade. On the
[3:16:27] opposite se of thePea
[3:16:30] River isoning d Polluting
[3:16:35] Shoal Creek.N I'm not gog
[3:16:38] to sit uhere anyre in here
[3:16:39] en app oanybody comep
[3:16:45] here to ve us ala massage.
[3:16:45] Don't wt to hear it
[3:16:46] anymore. Ion't wanto see
[3:16:47] yoguys giving y money
[3:16:51] any more501, sees.
[3:16:52] >> Who
[3:16:52] >>ay they' protecting e
[3:16:55] water? Becausare not
[3:17:00] precting the wer. We had
[3:17:01] ctor RicharWhitman re 2
[3:17:05] yearago. And whatid Dr
[3:17:09] Richd Whitman ll the
[3:17:10] Chlotte Couy Legislativ
[3:17:11] legation, ommissioner
[3:17:14] Constance anTruex an
[3:17:15] sell. Rember, he saithe
[3:17:19] Pee River dying. Dyg.
[3:17:24] Attorn Tom. Younow, I kind
[3:17:30] of ms hello, MisJanet. S
[3:17:30] sure madit a lite easier
[3:17:35] look at theiocese. Bu
[3:17:41] you that personay, plea I
[3:17:45] got tell you gu. Y've
[3:17:46] been cplicit in leing the
[3:17:52] rir die. I don't care wt
[3:17:53] e guy's a Taahassee nt
[3:17:53] to telyou, chair. En you
[3:17:55] geup thereyou ll them
[3:17:59] th is ouharbor. Thiss my
[3:18:02] homemchildren, myuture
[3:18:05] gacies he. And we wa
[3:18:06] is harboand this riv, we
[3:18:09] wantt re stod. Thank.
[3:18:12] Ank you, genemen. Than
[3:18:12] you.
[3:18:13] >>omm. Tiseo: d wishinto
[3:18:14] speak any county lated
[3:18:14] matt. Pleaseome forward.
[3:18:15] You'll hav3 minutestate.
[3:18:18] Yo name for threcord. This
[3:18:18] n't landse. This is r
[3:18:20] any otherelated tter. But
[3:18:29] you can stilspeak. Fternoon
[3:18:30] mmissioners.Y name I
[3:18:31] chard Lile County
[3:18:35] sident. My iue todayis
[3:18:36] I'm bu doing mown
[3:18:38] investation of a fmer
[3:18:39] spector genel and inhe
[3:18:40] procesi arranged tmeet
[3:18:42] publ works. And I s
[3:18:44] afforded30 minutesor that
[3:18:48] meing f which e first 5
[3:18:49] waited for attorneto
[3:18:51] zoom ion that meetg. Once
[3:18:55] at attorney t there.That
[3:18:55] attoey interrupt no less
[3:18:59] an 3 tim. Ting up a
[3:19:03] jority omy 30 minute For
[3:19:05] whatever reon thattorney
[3:19:06] deded it was aropriateo
[3:19:08] me. Legacounsel. That leg
[3:19:09] counsel en sometng like
[3:19:12] th. I vise you to t your
[3:19:13] qutions in writing a
[3:19:15] submit tse 2. Communit
[3:19:21] velopmen Inord to
[3:19:23] obtain consistent swer
[3:19:25] fromhe count I'not
[3:19:26] inrested ia consistent
[3:19:28] answer frothe coun. What
[3:19:29] I'looking r is the tru
[3:19:31] from theounty. As an
[3:19:34] investigatorhow you about
[3:19:35] doing th. As yousked that
[3:19:35] me question om sever
[3:19:37] sources.You n compare the
[3:19:41] answers.And if ty're
[3:19:42] constent, then y probabl
[3:19:44] ve the tth when ey're
[3:19:45] incoistent. That the
[3:19:46] thre yofollow tfind the
[3:19:51] uth. Thank yousir. Tha
[3:19:52] your comnts. Anyone se
[3:19:53] wishinto speakPlease come
[3:19:54] forward. Sta your na. For
[3:19:54] the cord. You'llave 3
[3:19:55] minus on anyounty relate
[3:19:56] matter.
[3:20:15] Good aernoon. My ne is
[3:20:18] Samu runningor the reco.
[3:20:19] >> I'm snding he holding a
[3:20:22] campaign mair from Vanessa
[3:20:23] Oliver. She activel
[3:20:25] blting maing ou
[3:20:26] mmunity,laiming she
[3:20:27] fightinghe newesthreat to
[3:20:31] rental rights and taeting
[3:20:33] dophilesIt is incribly
[3:20:34] nveniento lecture th
[3:20:35] public about tificial
[3:20:39] chines a threats on
[3:20:39] ece of paperBut let'
[3:20:40] ing someaw unfiltere
[3:20:43] common sen to this dcese,
[3:20:44] the deepest Rht to our
[3:20:46] children ian adtional
[3:20:47] ost. It a total colpse
[3:20:51] ofpper a Chel
[3:20:51] accounbility insidour
[3:20:52] tual physicalnstitutions
[3:20:53] right here iCharlott
[3:20:57] unty. Thstate of Floda
[3:20:58] or brie officially ras 3rd
[3:21:02] in t nation r hun
[3:21:03] traffickg and ouown local
[3:21:05] soil is cssified as aime
[3:21:05] geograical transitorridor
[3:21:08] ant spot r exploition
[3:21:12] betwn Miami and Tampa. Ye.
[3:21:13] Whilpoliticia use off
[3:21:16] tional hdlines to hu for
[3:21:17] boats, our local stems are
[3:21:18] aling wi systematic rea
[3:21:22] world exploitaon, coverups
[3:21:23] Let's looright under is
[3:21:27] roof with Coissioner
[3:21:28] Cotance wi thousands of
[3:21:30] explicit ptos or uncored
[3:21:33] on a cnty issued governmen
[3:21:34] laptop outsidcounsel
[3:21:36] instigated andound a car
[3:21:37] licy violati. But wh did
[3:21:41] thismmission do?You che
[3:21:43] to overre those ndings?
[3:21:44] Declare thatolan voiand
[3:21:46] sweep entirely unr the
[3:21:47] rug. How can gular citize
[3:21:48] have fai in the les when
[3:21:50] gh ranking oicials g a
[3:21:54] pass f explicit marial on
[3:21:55] puic propey, you sd a
[3:21:57] messagto everyesident th
[3:21:58] you hold por, the ls do
[3:22:02] not ply to you. N, looat
[3:22:04] our school boa or the ates
[3:22:05] invoed our childn. We ha
[3:22:08] seen rest of educatorin this
[3:22:09] coty for sexuamiscondu
[3:22:13] and child ase. I amot
[3:22:13] standi here accusein
[3:22:16] schooloard memr on tree
[3:22:19] intentiolly otectinghem.
[3:22:22] But has a n-negotiable
[3:22:25] statuty responsibity to
[3:22:27] safeguard our student Wher
[3:22:29] was the ovsight? What
[3:22:30] systemat bettingaws allow
[3:22:32] ese individus near our
[3:22:32] kids?
[3:22:33] >>eing a blic offial
[3:22:36] isn't out ribb cutting
[3:22:37] syolic huntinresolutions
[3:22:40] are nding out flas mellors
[3:22:43] out a Ifyou ho the seat,
[3:22:44] you hold therespsibility
[3:22:47] are tired othe double
[3:22:48] stdards anbureaucracy and
[3:22:49] eir shrugs. Expect r
[3:22:52] leads to a as ship for
[3:22:53] the blic, not shift for
[3:22:54] each other. Do your joto
[3:22:59] protecthe most andhas sent
[3:23:00] e most angst our childn
[3:23:01] and GOD lp us dthat. Go
[3:23:06] bless you.
[3:23:07] >> Comm.Iseo: Thank ur
[3:23:07] commen or anyby else
[3:23:08] wiing to speakPlease ce
[3:23:09] forward.Tate your na. For
[3:23:09] the cord. Yoll have 3
[3:23:23] nutes.
[3:23:23] Ood afternoo Good
[3:23:27] afteoon.
[3:23:27] >> I'm goi to reado you an
[3:23:28] mail that wasent froGary
[3:23:29] BangJust name fothe reco
[3:23:32] man. I me for e record
[3:23:36] ning. Susie ank you.
[3:23:39] E-mail w in OCTOBER,th
[3:23:41] 2025. Laura RossiThen it
[3:23:46] was no subjt. I need
[3:23:46] update tthis is in rard to
[3:23:49] war said I sorry. Ye. So
[3:23:50] we'rgoing to havthat wil
[3:23:54] ss your me from it.
[3:23:55] >>omm. Tis: We can tak
[3:23:55] that underonsideraon. We
[3:23:56] oped that landse item.
[3:23:57] This is r public inp. Any
[3:23:58] coun relatematter.
[3:24:02] We're wee not supposeto
[3:24:03] consid any comnts on land
[3:24:03] use at this age of t part
[3:24:07] of t meeting. I kn that I
[3:24:08] usthat. You casay you n
[3:24:10] say whatou want if yont
[3:24:11] to rept it aga, you can
[3:24:14] me back landse. I dot I
[3:24:15] n't have I'moing to ad
[3:24:15] somethg else. OkayThat's
[3:24:16] fi. Okay. So they nt to
[3:24:17] makeure you undetood,
[3:24:17] righ Okay. Wre going to
[3:24:18] resume your me when u
[3:24:24] start taing. Okay.
[3:24:25] >>ary Bain sayto need
[3:24:27] update tt I so it nes to
[3:24:29] reflt the worscase
[3:24:33] condion, which ian
[3:24:34] excavaon and then ck
[3:24:35] feelinit with lch and
[3:24:36] compt. So thtruck count
[3:24:40] hachanged. Howeve we are
[3:24:43] on going 13eet deepnow re
[3:24:43] eling the wrt guess uld
[3:24:46] be theworst-ce scenario.
[3:24:47] The otr case iwe leave it
[3:24:53] as a lake. D do not bac
[3:24:54] feel But w backfield t
[3:24:57] berms arnd e perimer.
[3:24:59] The si more likelyTt
[3:25:01] this is ing toe what
[3:25:05] happens. Do you nd a qb
[3:25:06] yards?Both scerios, Gary
[3:25:11] Bank.
[3:25:12] >> Com Tiseo: Thanyou for
[3:25:12] yo and anydy else wishg
[3:25:13] to speakPlease ce forward.
[3:25:14] State your ne. For t
[3:25:27] record. U'll have 3 nutes.
[3:25:33] MR. Chaman and
[3:25:39] Coissioners. Gd afternn.
[3:25:39] Myame is Dght Dean. I ve
[3:25:40] in Praie Creekark and some
[3:25:43] 0 residentiapropty
[3:25:44] ownersn our Community.
[3:25:45] Praie Creek Parks less
[3:25:48] th 2 and aha miles from a
[3:25:49] oposed mine te knowns
[3:25:53] water si. Ortly you'lle
[3:25:54] presenteimrtant deiled
[3:25:56] infoation regaing the
[3:25:56] applicatiofor wateside,
[3:25:57] whicwe trust youcarefull
[3:26:01] amined. Myoint is
[3:26:02] suggest brder context
[3:26:06] considerhis applation. The
[3:26:07] residents che this mmunity
[3:26:08] toinvestur resources to
[3:26:11] build our homes.Amilies d
[3:26:12] enjoy ling on proper with
[3:26:15] a diinctive ruleCharacte
[3:26:18] Whe we welce a diverse
[3:26:19] variety ofctivities th fit
[3:26:22] natully with this
[3:26:22] defition, itould never
[3:26:26] include sandining. As you
[3:26:27] can infer fr the sizand
[3:26:29] the lume of the blic
[3:26:30] pressionhat willather
[3:26:31] heretoday.T simply doenot
[3:26:38] fit. DayWe e many rea
[3:26:38] anges tang place as
[3:26:43] Florida's population gws
[3:26:44] since says thajust under
[3:26:45] 2 million people med to
[3:26:48] Flida betwn 2020 25.
[3:26:49] Histor growth. Secd only
[3:26:53] toexas, Chlotte populaon
[3:26:57] grew 2 in the me period.
[3:26:58] Whilthese da alys lag
[3:27:00] bend the re,the realy,
[3:27:01] Charloe Countyesidents
[3:27:03] ready se impact. Som
[3:27:05] very good r ourconomy.
[3:27:09] Mo real estate cents, more
[3:27:11] shoprs, moreungry patron
[3:27:13] inestauran et some
[3:27:14] ressing are from year
[3:27:16] infrtructure. Mo cars in
[3:27:17] trafc. More tients
[3:27:19] viting heah re
[3:27:22] provids, great demandsor
[3:27:23] puic servis. And whe you
[3:27:24] won'see a big chge when
[3:27:27] yodrive homtonight, thi
[3:27:29] quie sule and irreversle
[3:27:33] trend builng stress on
[3:27:33] exisng infraructures su
[3:27:34] as our rds and
[3:27:37] trsportation gd. You
[3:27:38] tter th we unrstand t
[3:27:41] difficulecisionsecessary
[3:27:44] wh this populatiogrowth
[3:27:45] exceedexisng capacitieof
[3:27:48] our lal infraructure. You
[3:27:50] ow how me, how more
[3:27:51] affic inarticular the
[3:27:53] large trks hauli large,
[3:27:56] heavy loads conceiv by
[3:27:57] th applicaon. Infles and
[3:27:58] exgerates are esent
[3:28:02] pattn growth a will
[3:28:03] reque even more equent
[3:28:04] updates anupgres of
[3:28:06] crital ansportation
[3:28:08] corrors likeermont and
[3:28:08] Duan RoadsThis is just
[3:28:13] common sen. These e e
[3:28:14] critical porities 're
[3:28:15] focuseon as ou consider
[3:28:19] this water side applicaon.
[3:28:19] We areere to sport you as
[3:28:22] you seek thicrital balan
[3:28:23] and ask u avoid t
[3:28:25] intrusivand isruptiv
[3:28:27] ture. Thiapplication
[3:28:29] wishes to imse upon ou
[3:28:30] community all of deal
[3:28:33] wi many otr remarkable
[3:28:35] changes driven bour rece
[3:28:36] and antipated polation
[3:28:37] grth. Thanyou, sir. Thk
[3:28:41] you comment.
[3:28:42] Comm. TiseoAnd wishg to
[3:28:43] speaon any countsubject.
[3:28:43] Ease comforward. Sta.
[3:28:44] Your namfor the cord.
[3:28:48] You' have 3 minus. Again.
[3:28:50] If it's a la e commen we
[3:28:51] have aand use nextt
[3:28:54] 02:00pm.
[3:28:55] I'm Melanieor paired
[3:29:01] trage th. A bunc So I
[3:29:01] oke to m Khan, sincee
[3:29:02] was the e that aually
[3:29:03] call me back, whh I
[3:29:06] apprecte. Thanyou. We're
[3:29:09] stl haven'gotten anhere.
[3:29:10] So he did gi me advi on to
[3:29:10] te you guys wh we're
[3:29:11] ending. You guys algot
[3:29:12] our 9 's this morningr
[3:29:16] we'll geth today or 90's
[3:29:17] for e last 4ears. Anso
[3:29:17] you gu can seehe
[3:29:20] differce in what e spend.
[3:29:21] 're fromaired outrea
[3:29:21] society,he 501 c
[3:29:23] nonprofi Tt, you know,
[3:29:24] we've been here. Wee
[3:29:26] struggli keep our
[3:29:27] facity open.E're paying
[3:29:28] some of the 00 a mon in
[3:29:31] re. We're aski for you
[3:29:31] sistanceYou know, weere
[3:29:32] able tpull theurplus list
[3:29:34] of operties that arlotte
[3:29:35] Coun uses th are empty o
[3:29:36] not being ed beingsed for
[3:29:39] stage. It immense. So
[3:29:40] n't I'm havi a very rd
[3:29:41] time uerstanding w no one
[3:29:44] caeven looat it.An you
[3:29:45] knowsit downnd talk to I
[3:29:47] have lt at lea 20 mesges
[3:29:48] from m Flores to ge me a
[3:29:50] ca. I'd ner heard from
[3:29:51] him. I've spoken to Melissa
[3:29:52] and I thinare your
[3:29:54] sistance100 timeand they
[3:29:55] ll me, o call me, bui've
[3:29:57] neveheard fr you again,
[3:29:58] cotant, MR. Cotance wa
[3:30:00] e one th did give mea
[3:30:02] call. Ani loed into me
[3:30:03] of the thingthat, yoknow,
[3:30:05] we dcussed ke talkg to
[3:30:06] farmeeing wean move our
[3:30:07] birdomewherelse. The
[3:30:08] omise we havalmost 0
[3:30:10] birds. Wwould ha topace
[3:30:13] themut. We only ve 220
[3:30:14] lunteers. Hodo we ke
[3:30:14] them Howo we keep th
[3:30:15] clean? H do you ow they
[3:30:17] ha to be in one locaon.
[3:30:18] 're paying 3you know,
[3:30:21] ving them alover thelace
[3:30:22] doesn'work. We've never
[3:30:23] asked the coty for athing
[3:30:24] you guys ha to undetand.
[3:30:28] We'vbeen here 17ears. 17
[3:30:29] years.E've tak care of th
[3:30:30] birds ofhis county at for
[3:30:31] yoguys to lieve that tre
[3:30:34] isn't need, its crazy.
[3:30:35] Cay diseasthat we keep
[3:30:39] controlledor he county. W
[3:30:40] just took 21 birdsrom one
[3:30:41] resident iCharlottCounty 7
[3:30:45] ys ago. Is is wh we.
[3:30:46] And you ys don't knothat
[3:30:47] the's palm becse e've
[3:30:48] beenble to mntain fo17
[3:30:50] years thout any helpWe
[3:30:53] can't that anore. We're
[3:30:55] t askingu guys to gi us
[3:30:57] money.Sking tofor us for
[3:30:58] you guyselp us with e
[3:30:59] buildingnd let upay mean
[3:31:01] you'llent. We're lp us p
[3:31:02] our rentMaybe t all of it.
[3:31:03] But discussn of some so
[3:31:06] to how wme forwar We
[3:31:07] ha an,000 square-ot
[3:31:08] facili and we n barely
[3:31:11] ve inside oft. Ie
[3:31:12] invited l of you to me
[3:31:14] visit.Ome lookt what we
[3:31:15] do. This isn just like, y
[3:31:18] know, ti et shop. We a 5,
[3:31:19] a one 3. No one ge paid to
[3:31:21] be there. Are volteer
[3:31:23] based ly you know, wn I
[3:31:23] spoke to t fire chf, he
[3:31:24] tolde if we stard to u a
[3:31:25] nice bd's, we coulmove
[3:31:29] into smaller cility tt
[3:31:29] doesn't lp the probl.
[3:31:31] There arstill atleast
[3:31:31] 120,0 birds ving in home
[3:31:35] inside of arlotte unty.
[3:31:36] Whether yobelieve at or
[3:31:37] not,here are we' done this
[3:31:38] to We've looketalked
[3:31:40] abt an area inlinics a
[3:31:42] over Chaotte Couy. Peop
[3:31:42] don'House onbd. I
[3:31:43] persally hav50 birds at
[3:31:48] home in Lee unty. Ople
[3:31:48] don'House on They house
[3:31:50] lot more than tha And
[3:31:51] Chlotte Coty does not ve
[3:31:56] a breedg policy for yone.
[3:31:57] >> Tnk Thankour comments
[3:31:59] wishing topeak. Plse co
[3:32:00] forward.Eah. Youave 3
[3:32:00] minus. State. Yo name fo
[3:32:06] e recordAgai If it's on
[3:32:11] land u. First
[3:32:12] >> Tha you foraving me
[3:32:13] re. Name forhe recor My
[3:32:14] name iWalter Bellseasor
[3:32:20] is it me win live in s it
[3:32:22] all soutrn Illinois,f you
[3:32:26] knowhere thasaid? Ive
[3:32:26] north rbondale witthink
[3:32:31] the lle. D I was drted
[3:32:39] in 196 Inhe nba want all
[3:32:39] ite scho for the Murchs,
[3:32:41] the port we' replaced th
[3:32:42] 25 divisio They went mat
[3:32:47] all. I went tThailandhe
[3:32:50] desk. Rgeant numbered
[3:32:51] placement. Wre on mos him
[3:33:00] on ml. D b, 52. And myMy
[3:33:01] alificationsf Illino
[3:33:05] State trper full. And tor
[3:33:06] pushednvest seeant known
[3:33:08] as the deputu.S. Maral. I
[3:33:10] work aa court serity
[3:33:12] offirs. Few people herof
[3:33:18] the feral courofficer. If
[3:33:19] you ow nothi them board
[3:33:24] mean write aook. Deat
[3:33:28] anyway. Baup pointWeave
[3:33:31] a TampBay Rayso mean. In
[3:33:34] thspring te burning.
[3:33:38] Traffiis horrendou I was
[3:33:42] board meer. Was a hi
[3:33:42] scol board memr 7 year
[3:33:44] was present for. Ani
[3:33:47] believe safety. And know
[3:33:49] you' worried out money,
[3:33:53] maybe build erpass. You
[3:33:54] don't want g a life more
[3:34:00] impoant. You need t nothe
[3:34:03] ba be a board d the our
[3:34:06] perintendentwhen youo.
[3:34:09] Chk out grt. Lord Ranso
[3:34:12] They pai person.A lot
[3:34:14] gran. If you invest iue of
[3:34:17] the re presidentNo, I'
[3:34:19] t. The psident. Don't you
[3:34:26] wish you wer Anyway, In
[3:34:31] 20. We have 12roopers t.
[3:34:35] My semi ivers. Bronx12a
[3:34:44] trooper'die. Was home. N
[3:34:45] Pinckneylle. He'25 years
[3:34:49] d. E 3 yearon thjob. He
[3:34:53] haa kid fotrial for an
[3:34:58] won 2. Thiserson died tt
[3:35:01] kill mudoom. Ove And
[3:35:02] he's a guyThey really ve
[3:35:10] me. Lo 2 chilen for wif
[3:35:11] Anay, I waa deputy u.S
[3:35:11] marshal, aederal crthouse
[3:35:15] pling on it.
[3:35:16] Know right d how it
[3:35:17] it's 3 nute wityour
[3:35:19] present. I underand gym
[3:35:21] yet.'s 3 ministe that
[3:35:22] ank, you kno servicend
[3:35:23] thank u. Well, whai'm
[3:35:23] sayings we neeto
[3:35:24] protecon. Thank you, sir.
[3:35:27] Normal going stall?
[3:35:30] Ceainly nedo mn so we
[3:35:34] are we uer ovpass bil I
[3:35:37] got Weot youpoints. Are
[3:35:38] public safetover got a ni
[3:35:39] to meet u. Oh, Tnk you,
[3:35:42] si Thank you f your
[3:35:42] coents. Anybodwishing
[3:35:43] speak, pase come forrd.
[3:35:44] State ur name.Or the
[3:35:45] rerd. You'll he 3 minus.
[3:35:58] Yes,hank you, si
[3:35:58] >>ello, myame Charles
[3:35:59] Goodman. I le in the#
[3:35:59] #
[3:35:59] #
[3:36:02] Gorda area a I'm herto
[3:36:05] speak behalf of t Parrot
[3:36:06] outrea society years ago.
[3:36:07] My wife and walked io the
[3:36:08] parrotutreach st out of
[3:36:11] riosity. My fe had. Once
[3:36:13] had pair forlmost years
[3:36:15] fomy babuntil hiassing
[3:36:16] so nationally.E were
[3:36:18] cuous abouwhat this ple
[3:36:20] real was were waly greeted
[3:36:21] byolunteer sta member wh
[3:36:22] gives it tthe cilitiesnd
[3:36:22] give ua short variant
[3:36:23] Haian regaing the
[3:36:24] dierent types of birds
[3:36:27] currently used the over
[3:36:29] the xt 3 ars. We ve
[3:36:30] adopted 3 pa from the
[3:36:31] outrea society, ea one and
[3:36:32] older birdWhat somow lost
[3:36:33] thr previousomes. Yoneed
[3:36:37] somee to care for them
[3:36:38] like mosdomestic pet
[3:36:39] Paris calive a le span.
[3:36:42] Ve similar to our Birds
[3:36:43] are w the 3rd mo popular
[3:36:44] t can nojust Floridabut
[3:36:45] in Ameca. Behind right
[3:36:49] behind dogand catsMany of
[3:36:50] e Burj at thoutreach
[3:36:51] ciety arsimp there
[3:36:52] becausthey've outved thei
[3:36:54] ners abity to care for
[3:36:56] them. T parent I wajust it
[3:36:58] noonly nd suitae hes
[3:36:59] in aretakeror the birds
[3:37:00] but providinvaable
[3:37:02] guidce. Th makeadoption
[3:37:03] st likely toucceed. Ey
[3:37:04] don't st hand the rds out
[3:37:06] tonyone th walks. The
[3:37:07] volueers areways
[3:37:07] avaible for nsultation o
[3:37:10] point, has ncerns regaing
[3:37:11] the heth nutrional
[3:37:13] behaor of your part. He
[3:37:14] doest matter if was
[3:37:14] adopd, theirrders was
[3:37:17] rchased as apetlsewhere.
[3:37:18] Thexpertisof the
[3:37:20] vonteers irreplaceab.
[3:37:21] All the birds a disease
[3:37:23] sted upon arrivain any
[3:37:25] affected, bis will reive
[3:37:26] medical treaents. Noere
[3:37:28] else ithe area canne. Go
[3:37:29] to g the adve and servic
[3:37:32] thatre now ailable at th
[3:37:33] Paot outreach.Hey prove
[3:37:34] ooming svices such anail
[3:37:35] trend, trd as welas
[3:37:38] diseastesting and dna te
[3:37:39] that wou normal incur a
[3:37:40] ry expenve vet bill r
[3:37:41] just theominal dation at
[3:37:45] e treach. Thislso ives
[3:37:46] owne a chancto speak to
[3:37:46] morexperiencBird oers
[3:37:47] regardg anhealth conces
[3:37:51] they mayave withtheir bis
[3:37:52] if nded. The outach has
[3:37:53] st of qualifiedxotic
[3:37:54] anim veterinians in the
[3:37:57] West Coast. Sadly, t nearest
[3:37:58] es are eithenow or nth
[3:38:01] or an ur south of
[3:38:01] #
[3:38:01] ##
[3:38:02] Gord the servic and
[3:38:03] assiance proded by the
[3:38:03] outreach is importa asset
[3:38:05] tour communitynd our
[3:38:07] residents.Thdoors are open
[3:38:08] to t public in thisffers
[3:38:10] manypeoplin e community,
[3:38:11] the abilitto intert with
[3:38:12] pants in a ay that'not
[3:38:14] availae elsewhere the
[3:38:15] area. Childr's faceslight
[3:38:16] when a bird sws a special
[3:38:18] interest ithe visiti
[3:38:21] child, their smes of crisis
[3:38:22] when a rd introced
[3:38:22] themsees by speaki hello,
[3:38:24] I'quite uhs or he girl.
[3:38:26] Suchteractions c shape a
[3:38:27] ild's peonnel. You bome
[3:38:27] more on to havg better
[3:38:30] derstanding of anils. This
[3:38:31] n then eent of the
[3:38:32] relationshipith othe
[3:38:34] people. Parentsre incredly
[3:38:36] intellent bird They're
[3:38:36] capable of ctical inking
[3:38:38] aroften are ab to vocaze
[3:38:40] eir feelgs ju on one
[3:38:41] rent meeting othe
[3:38:42] volunteers, a longti
[3:38:44] residentair interjecd into
[3:38:45] the conversaon regarng the
[3:38:47] ca of burgs. Quoteu
[3:38:48] think yore so smart d then
[3:38:52] leout a lah. Ye they ca
[3:38:53] eak, buthey need us
[3:38:54] speak fothem here so th
[3:38:54] they cahave a safe d
[3:38:58] secure fure in our
[3:38:59] counity. Rpectfully ask
[3:39:00] you supporparadigm
[3:39:00] ciety, tir valuable set
[3:39:01] to ourommunityThank you,
[3:39:04] sir. And ishes spk. Please
[3:39:05] me forward ste your me.
[3:39:05] For threcord. You' have 3
[3:39:12] mites.
[3:39:12] >> Good afrnoon. Tnk you
[3:39:13] fohaving of Chles Mccle
[3:39:17] speakingn behalf of ir
[3:39:17] outreachociety. You' heard
[3:39:18] a t about ganization's
[3:39:21] been arounfor a long te.
[3:39:21] I've bn since boarmember
[3:39:27] fopast 3 yrs. Things
[3:39:27] n tell y about the prot
[3:39:28] treach ithe way helput
[3:39:31] domest violenchome
[3:39:32] people ty have to gi the
[3:39:32] Ram man. Thas at that
[3:39:35] ppens. We ta him no
[3:39:36] arge. We wi charge ybody
[3:39:37] abouparticularlyedical
[3:39:37] carexpenses and e cuts
[3:39:40] dot. Sohat wedo is a lo
[3:39:44] It's 100% volteer as a 5, 1,
[3:39:45] , which r best to ke
[3:39:47] the burp public pee river
[3:39:49] beuse we te care and
[3:39:52] thermay come into wal. No
[3:39:53] questis asked. We'll ke
[3:39:54] care Ur's long as u need
[3:39:55] Ifou need know weined
[3:40:00] him r. Buwhat stu is as
[3:40:01] Mis every moh gets hder
[3:40:01] and haer because othe
[3:40:05] costs. L's this unty.
[3:40:06] It'snbelievable. Did a
[3:40:09] two-ar trying tofind us
[3:40:12] anher facity. We've tried
[3:40:12] evywhere wget polled b
[3:40:14] some of th ental proper.
[3:40:15] It's nothe sort thing we
[3:40:18] nt in mallIt's not the
[3:40:19] rt thing we nt our ltle
[3:40:20] part othe world he. A
[3:40:20] p#
[3:40:20] ##
[3:40:20] #
[3:40:22] orda. But 're he.
[3:40:23] We haven gone aw, but take
[3:40:27] care of everne. The county
[3:40:28] has looked dtressed
[3:40:29] propty. You' paying a lo
[3:40:30] of money ttake carof it
[3:40:33] and op being use We have a
[3:40:35] legitimate 10 Kohl's. Thas
[3:40:35] all volueer. We ke care of
[3:40:38] everyone. We also traing
[3:40:40] progragetting t to the
[3:40:41] scols, educating ople on
[3:40:41] thbirds, hp take care
[3:40:45] them., more tn you can bu
[3:40:48] it o becausehat's ad is
[3:40:49] yohave a lot oseniordown
[3:40:50] herehat takehese birds f
[3:40:52] their coanions. Thatthey
[3:40:55] mes with a ps on the
[3:40:56] buout leav. The birdie
[3:40:56] unload himThe famies don't
[3:40:59] lp them out.T's a huge
[3:41:00] cost. It's auge upti in.
[3:41:02] We'rglad do it. But every
[3:41:03] ar does get rder and
[3:41:07] rder to this. So. Help
[3:41:08] th the renhelp witsome
[3:41:10] landrchase, lp with any
[3:41:11] vaca buildings tt have n
[3:41:12] calls orse right now ihuge
[3:41:16] help us cause, you ow,
[3:41:17] everevery year is going
[3:41:18] every moh, it's going.
[3:41:19] It's getng hardeand
[3:41:20] harderYou thisalls. An
[3:41:21] again,e do prode a good
[3:41:23] rvice to e countyand, yo
[3:41:24] ow, educion. We're phing
[3:41:26] mored more evermonth an
[3:41:27] can getrom the peop to
[3:41:29] tell tm. We will of t day
[3:41:30] thatomes whe we're not
[3:41:32] business anyre. But man
[3:41:34] spiritnever let th happ
[3:41:36] because souch say,hey,my
[3:41:37] Pe for my ds. Bo ars on
[3:41:38] thbreed, t months to ce
[3:41:40] on the pulation.Andhen
[3:41:40] all of sudden at pet
[3:41:42] don't have a home. Soyou
[3:41:44] know, do pride thathat
[3:41:49] service and ain. Its s pre
[3:41:51] sa predateyou know,ith
[3:41:52] e torch has en passeus
[3:41:53] now weake care of rit
[3:41:55] now. Sa lot f good pple
[3:41:55] built ganization tt's been
[3:41:58] ound for long time.Th
[3:41:59] ngest 5,ne c threes the
[3:42:02] coun. Thank yovery much
[3:42:04] r yo Thank yo sir. Be
[3:42:05] wishes sak. Please ce
[3:42:05] forward ate. Youname. For
[3:42:06] e record. Yoll have
[3:42:10] nutes. Good aernoon
[3:42:14] coissioner My name is
[3:42:14] Pay Castro.
[3:42:15] I am not afliated aall
[3:42:15] with t Parrot outrch
[3:42:18] Societ But feelompelledo
[3:42:21] come up d speak to y out
[3:42:22] it seval yearsgo, a friend
[3:42:23] of mine's part passed awa
[3:42:27] I was noaware ofe
[3:42:27] organizaon. I we there. I
[3:42:28] de a donatioand I wod
[3:42:31] encouragyou too to seehe
[3:42:31] facili that th have. I
[3:42:33] ntinue to support em.
[3:42:34] They'ramazing ganization.
[3:42:35] And I wod request th you
[3:42:38] do sething to helth
[3:42:39] wonderfuorganizationr
[3:42:42] communit Thank Tnk you.
[3:42:42] Ybody el wishing to eak,
[3:42:43] plea come foard to left
[3:42:47] minutes. Ood afteoon. My
[3:42:50] na is Richard v Acker.
[3:42:51] >>nd I've en involved th
[3:42:52] the Ms Street d drainage
[3:42:54] Gulf Cove. Foabout 18 yea,
[3:42:56] either othe boaror a
[3:42:59] reside recently. 2 yes
[3:43:04] ago, theommitteerought up.
[3:43:05] King outThere's a lile
[3:43:05] small dium wheyou come in
[3:43:06] on off sympts. 6 on dge
[3:43:09] lot takinghat mian out
[3:43:10] wining and makg an ext
[3:43:13] lane in here. Mentia ithe
[3:43:14] of tee layout thas alread
[3:43:16] the intsection. They'
[3:43:19] been turnedown at ery
[3:43:21] meetin This past mting.
[3:43:24] They werturned down ain
[3:43:25] for it. But ey said theyl
[3:43:26] do a 1.6illion dlar
[3:43:29] beautication. Pin curbe
[3:43:31] rinking e lane. But we
[3:43:33] nt wide beuse of amoun
[3:43:36] of traffichat's in there.
[3:43:37] Now th the park's tered
[3:43:40] the ilding tt's going on
[3:43:41] We're cked up all e way
[3:43:41] throh that iand, waiting
[3:43:47] for que onhat ligh The ad
[3:43:48] nickelntersection r the
[3:43:51] NortSide is Atwater.
[3:43:53] Matter of ct, Julys
[3:43:56] biggerwider. Then at war
[3:43:56] is so the would ill be
[3:43:59] ilgal median and evething.
[3:43:59] I ow you a have heard
[3:44:03] from. Public wks becaus
[3:44:04] ey neverell you whathe
[3:44:08] msp yoreally wt. Leing
[3:44:11] town f a couple therwill
[3:44:12] be oer people he in your
[3:44:13] xt couplmeani got th
[3:44:14] tes wrong. A I told
[3:44:16] dates th they come ud
[3:44:17] speak. Sit'll be comg to
[3:44:21] talko you abt it, too. Bu
[3:44:21] the commtee, residen all
[3:44:23] wanthat medi widened. So
[3:44:27] trafc can fl. Ank you.
[3:44:27] U all have. Od afteron.
[3:44:29] Thank y, sir. Anybo else
[3:44:32] wishg to spe? Oany
[3:44:34] countyelated sject. Please
[3:44:35] ate yourame. For the
[3:44:36] record. Yohave 3 mutes.
[3:44:39] >> I havthe handts.
[3:44:43] There's a pies.
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[3:45:16] ly th 202680 days afte
[3:45:19] transmitta As of this
[3:45:22] moing, JULY 28 2026. W
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[3:45:27] feedbacfrom you or yo
[3:45:27] staff onur letter. Tt's
[3:45:32] anothecopy of it.Rarding
[3:45:32] statutory exration a
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[3:45:46] throh yo assistant a
[3:45:49] Charlotte unty, Flida dot
[3:45:49] v on Sunday cause itid
[3:45:50] in 2 wks and we hanot
[3:45:54] heard word bacfrom you.
[3:45:55] Th after monthof vario
[3:45:56] discussis with dividual
[3:45:57] aff and boarmembers
[3:46:01] well. At thApril 28th 202
[3:46:05] Board ofCommissiers meeting
[3:46:05] during commiioner's
[3:46:08] coents. Thfallen commes,
[3:46:09] alquotes from commissners
[3:46:10] and n be vefied on your
[3:46:10] video re made regaing
[3:46:14] extensns. Do weave a
[3:46:15] spresheet of wheand why
[3:46:15] exnsions he been grant
[3:46:17] in the pt? No onknew are
[3:46:21] sponding. How manyoposals
[3:46:21] ha been grted xtension
[3:46:24] How longith those exnsions
[3:46:24] do we ev know ich ones
[3:46:28] me back aftehow longWe
[3:46:29] ould revi extensions r
[3:46:32] approvalnot staf maybe. We
[3:46:33] shouldave a woshop about
[3:46:36] putting exteions whe We
[3:46:37] dot see thesthings for
[3:46:38] months and fget whatt was
[3:46:42] abou ey asked thr
[3:46:43] attorneyus to attoey his
[3:46:46] opion on extenons and
[3:46:47] stf approval oboard of
[3:46:49] mmissions. His response
[3:46:52] We will lo in it. That wa
[3:46:53] 3 nths agoWe haven't
[3:46:57] heard. We pected some pe
[3:47:01] ofesponse ng befortoday
[3:47:02] by l, the adtion hearing
[3:47:02] had to be ld no lar than
[3:47:05] Dember. Xcuse meJuly 9th
[3:47:07] 202600 days aftetrance
[3:47:11] mile returfrom state.
[3:47:11] Remier, the plicant firs
[3:47:13] applied f Kcp24, 4, on
[3:47:17] Seember. Th 2024, hich is
[3:47:19] proximity tooint for 2 ars
[3:47:21] to havtheisewer anwar
[3:47:22] plans apoved, whh is why
[3:47:25] ey ask for exnsion MARCH
[3:47:27] th 2026. Misr De Lisi o
[3:47:28] behalf of e applict. Send
[3:47:32] anmail to stafter hours
[3:47:33] requesng an additial 180
[3:47:34] da extensi out to
[3:47:38] Feuary. 28. Sta sent to
[3:47:39] o see wiin a very sht
[3:47:40] time. Al after hrs to
[3:47:43] reco a nedate with sll
[3:47:43] 111 da before the iginal
[3:47:47] deline. As elected ofcials
[3:47:50] fromour taxpayg
[3:47:51] constituts, don't weeserve
[3:47:54] a sponse tour inquy? Not
[3:47:55] justrickets. Tha u for
[3:47:56] yourime. We ok forward t
[3:48:00] your respoe. Thank you.
[3:48:01] >> Comm. Tis: best whes
[3:48:01] speak.Lease come fward.
[3:48:02] You' have 3 nutes on any
[3:48:05] county reled matte Okay.
[3:48:06] Seng no on right,
[3:48:07] gelemen, do yowant to try
[3:48:08] attempt commts are le to
[3:48:10] go io recess unt 2. With
[3:48:11] the pleasu of theoard
[3:48:16] withok? Soe want to ta a
[3:48:18] ab comments wl just stop
[3:48:20] erever we stoppedstart to
[3:48:21] my lt and ommissioner
[3:48:23] it. You' recognid for calm
[3:48:27] We, actual, we have r.
[3:48:28] Floresthank Just he a
[3:48:28] quick e. It's tually
[3:48:30] piybacking f. We haset
[3:48:31] the puic hearing cing up
[3:48:32] for on Sepmber 8thegarding
[3:48:36] righaway and discussion
[3:48:37] enforcemenjust to e board
[3:48:38] kns, you know,t's not ly
[3:48:38] right ay that we'rwe're
[3:48:39] maki sure weake a look a
[3:48:42] but it's ao there'other
[3:48:43] instce, county orcels
[3:48:44] were folks andtaging o
[3:48:47] rking along. We're tryin
[3:48:48] to take a look at a that
[3:48:49] wherthere might some
[3:48:50] non-mpliancessues and se
[3:48:53] how we gabout enrcing
[3:48:54] whetr it's pting signs
[3:48:55] ortrespaing. So re to
[3:48:56] comen that. T that's it.
[3:48:57] Thank yo MISTER Air, MR.
[3:49:00] Vid, any comnts? Ay,
[3:49:00] Commisoner, do it.Ou're
[3:49:04] recoized foromment, r.
[3:49:04] Just cck your commt on a
[3:49:08] whe bunch things with The
[3:49:08] clothing, thbirds th will
[3:49:09] justome in. And you so
[3:49:14] can all ve a chance I'm th
[3:49:14] st Speak. Mary Andre
[3:49:17] talked abo the expiraon
[3:49:18] date. Sort recall ming
[3:49:24] befo this ard gum to g
[3:49:25] chance tlook into rify the
[3:49:28] ta see if Kcks cent was
[3:49:29] doner
[3:49:29] >> Comm.Eutsch: at the
[3:49:34] stus is on the
[3:49:35] Commissner. We do ia
[3:49:35] time, Dad Countyttorney.
[3:49:36] Do administtive
[3:49:37] exteions, whh is a commo
[3:49:39] practice aund stat Okay
[3:49:42] So theand th's under an
[3:49:47] extension rit now. E
[3:49:48] project at she's don
[3:49:53] referenc at the at urrent
[3:49:54] rerences. The th project
[3:49:54] s extended. Rsuant tthe
[3:49:59] e-mailhat you talk about.
[3:50:01] Okay, itas tended due
[3:50:02] time. And yoknow, thdate
[3:50:04] thatt's extended.
[3:50:05] >> Comm.Eutsch: don't have
[3:50:08] the shoes. Dnot havehe
[3:50:08] das are, b maybe that
[3:50:10] because ey have them. Yo
[3:50:14] n't respd. No, I'morry.
[3:50:15] Maybcould gehat
[3:50:16] informion if whave it and
[3:50:20] sort shar So the ladyould
[3:50:22] be ableo see th we will
[3:50:23] llow les thatere
[3:50:27] establhed and that just asa
[3:50:28] procedure, wl, sometes
[3:50:32] will eend some of ose
[3:50:33] ems if wcould get th
[3:50:35] 4th, it uld be helpf. I
[3:50:35] belie community velopmen
[3:50:36] s that iormation wil
[3:50:39] allow all lked abo it. Ok,
[3:50:40] ank you. Thether thi
[3:50:42] that oncerns and you kno
[3:50:45] prior the souls and
[3:50:46] responding to emails. Wt are
[3:50:52] you doing re? 30 retir the
[3:50:53] emai and pho calls and a
[3:51:03] that stu I'm concerne jt
[3:51:04] they said lot ofools. A
[3:51:05] rell. That0 a 300 or
[3:51:06] whatever. Buit was aawful
[3:51:08] lot of cas.
[3:51:08] >> Com Deutsch: We to the
[3:51:12] adnistrati office andnd
[3:51:12] no onealled th back. Maybe
[3:51:13] you could eck on tt
[3:51:14] internallyCause. Ihink
[3:51:18] mostf us. Try toeturn all
[3:51:22] one calls ve some vel of
[3:51:24] mmunication th the
[3:51:25] citize, whatev whever
[3:51:29] possib. So youay nt to
[3:51:30] Hect, if you cou touch
[3:51:32] ba with th person's wh
[3:51:33] ppened ell, tho phone
[3:51:37] cas turn that at.
[3:51:38] Does ju doesn't see
[3:51:39] consistentor me.
[3:51:46] >> Forhe birds.
[3:51:47] >>omm. Deuch: I had a
[3:51:48] bunch of pow to set e time
[3:51:49] puppies onll kindsof stuff
[3:51:50] flying arounaffordab
[3:51:50] housing ey grew up aa
[3:51:53] youngste And I tnk most of
[3:51:57] us a pet lovs. Now I have 3
[3:51:58] iny budget, question
[3:52:03] ying or not,and the sue
[3:52:10] with t parentsi n't
[3:52:10] ink and maybthe
[3:52:13] adminirator coent on tt.
[3:52:18] I don'think we hava way.
[3:52:20] That we uld pride fundg
[3:52:21] to a 50 c 3.Ot that the
[3:52:27] need. Isn't ere? We d this
[3:52:31] reest come at e end ofhe
[3:52:31] cultal centebefore it
[3:52:32] esn't strikeby hurrines.
[3:52:33] I'm t sure thate have a
[3:52:35] thodology orway. At we
[3:52:39] can ovide fundin2
[3:52:40] ornizationr group like
[3:52:47] that. You MAY want tcomment
[3:52:48] on tt one, t, but I don'
[3:52:49] think thers we don have a
[3:52:53] router oplanned to bable
[3:52:53] provide taxyer dolls to
[3:52:54] someing like Nothat it
[3:52:58] wodn't be.Heful and t
[3:52:59] that the's not a nee but I
[3:52:59] dot think ere's a way
[3:53:01] can do tt. Its the time
[3:53:06] that I'm notaware o
[3:53:07] >> Tom, d the coty
[3:53:07] attorn that I thin
[3:53:08] commission, the wato do
[3:53:09] thatould be to a eu for
[3:53:09] thboard toct and then
[3:53:11] included in the budget
[3:53:11] process. We n look a
[3:53:16] ything y wish wtever,
[3:53:16] whever, whever is legay
[3:53:17] allowed. Don't kw what
[3:53:18] wh this organition's
[3:53:21] stus isr, you know,ut we
[3:53:22] do gnt fundi. We do
[3:53:22] dierent types, you kn,
[3:53:27] the cnty does. Sohat we d
[3:53:27] at packa to the Unit
[3:53:29] Way, whi isbeen tablished
[3:53:30] different. 16 yearsgo.
[3:53:33] We setthat up.
[3:53:34] >> Comm. Deuch: Thers
[3:53:35] differentypes of procts
[3:53:35] that t county nds for
[3:53:39] vaous. County svices. W
[3:53:39] e vendorand all kindof
[3:53:40] thingsSo there ways to do
[3:53:43] it just in tdirect staffo
[3:53:44] vestigat. Have to go
[3:53:48] through thudget. Yeah,
[3:53:49] picked cple of youngen to
[3:53:51] everne else a chanceo
[3:53:52] comment cause I've got some
[3:53:53] more commenton some the
[3:53:55] othethings that me to 2.
[3:53:55] Comm. Dtsch: Want tlet
[3:54:00] someonelse goi.
[3:54:01] >> Well,ou have e floor
[3:54:01] focomments do u do wit
[3:54:07] ur ah, I mean, u've bee
[3:54:08] cognizedor comment.,
[3:54:09] yeah, gohead andgo dow
[3:54:11] ur st and will cment
[3:54:12] after u what we kn. I
[3:54:13] don't nt to co erything
[3:54:14] want to ve everyone se
[3:54:15] enougho do so.Torm. Find
[3:54:18] t. Okay.O your commes
[3:54:19] for no Okay. Commiioner
[3:54:23] Trueyou havea comment
[3:54:23] I'm jusgonna bring you
[3:54:27] annu conferee of fther
[3:54:27] Nacoas succeful
[3:54:28] conferce. I was nothere
[3:54:28] for e generasession on
[3:54:31] Monday. I fl back eay to
[3:54:31] get ck. But meetgs went
[3:54:34] ve, very well. Do have
[3:54:40] new secondites. Whaver it
[3:54:41] is, ichever we'rgonna ce
[3:54:43] presidt vice psident
[3:54:44] airs anyway.Nd that But
[3:54:50] it's our and I I dot have a
[3:54:52] ole lot el to report. St
[3:54:53] publicafety meings wit
[3:54:54] ry well a good
[3:54:55] partipation om fema whil
[3:54:56] we werehere. And sohat
[3:54:59] that s good. E deputy
[3:55:00] director thai got toeet
[3:55:01] with wn I was in Dwas also
[3:55:03] ere. So 's good to e see
[3:55:07] her d there do a
[3:55:08] esentation. E acting
[3:55:08] administtor who s been I
[3:55:09] tive mintry before y get
[3:55:11] 30 yrs of exrience, was
[3:55:13] the in hoping see thnew
[3:55:16] appoine confird by he
[3:55:17] Senatei haven't hed how
[3:55:18] that going athis point.
[3:55:18] But they werhoping thave
[3:55:20] it de this week. We also
[3:55:24] l should be tching tt
[3:55:25] the the rson thas in
[3:55:27] char now the pern is
[3:55:30] comingn and a revious
[3:55:30] adnistrator, fa, we'rell
[3:55:34] in ourdisaster rovery
[3:55:35] meetg and th meeting wen
[3:55:35] very, verywell gten some
[3:55:38] ry good deta. It sous
[3:55:38] likehere on boarto make
[3:55:40] so good mifications a
[3:55:43] not just g the I think
[3:55:45] there's imovementsn at
[3:55:46] area anit's good toee
[3:55:48] thingsoving in positive
[3:55:49] direction. Wall kn that we
[3:55:51] ed to sereform and fema
[3:55:54] but we neefema iplace
[3:55:55] wherwe are concned abou
[3:55:56] they goo a grant press
[3:55:59] proces what looks likeBut
[3:56:00] ey have al been inform
[3:56:01] that we uld likeo see it
[3:56:02] passed the states order
[3:56:03] toet to thlocal
[3:56:06] commities is to op getti
[3:56:07] held up bween theederal
[3:56:08] gornment stateovernmen
[3:56:08] d then t state decid,
[3:56:10] well, I'gonna gi hears to
[3:56:13] there directow. So is
[3:56:13] beer. But overl, I thi
[3:56:14] we're gog to see som
[3:56:16] improvemen ju keep pying
[3:56:18] for 's a long watoo and
[3:56:23] that'sives. Thank you,ir.
[3:56:24] Commisoner, doant to
[3:56:24] coent on commiioner
[3:56:25] direor's comnts are
[3:56:26] coinued. I juslike to
[3:56:27] brg one upbecause I ink
[3:56:28] the geleman looked but Iad
[3:56:30] some informatn be levant
[3:56:35] toule so gtlemen suggesd
[3:56:36] a.
[3:56:36] >>etting a a wk over fm
[3:56:37] the fairounds and whe the
[3:56:42] parkg lot isver and spos
[3:56:42] park.
[3:56:43] Comm. Deuts: particarly
[3:56:44] whenhe stone so cribs
[3:56:44] we here a mber years a
[3:56:45] when I fst came the
[3:56:46] bod, we acally looked to
[3:56:50] that. D the problewith
[3:56:53] gettg theim number onwas
[3:56:53] then I wou ha to guess
[3:56:58] at it is nowBut thcost
[3:56:59] thenas wellver a millio
[3:57:00] dollars.Nd that was out 15
[3:57:01] yes ago. Si had to gue
[3:57:02] what it uld be. T the
[3:57:04] otheproblem with it an
[3:57:06] Putin, the overpassyou woul
[3:57:13] ve to me. All fedel
[3:57:14] guidelin ming it
[3:57:16] acssible to anyone,
[3:57:19] handicappedisablednd to do
[3:57:20] thatyou need oneoot for
[3:57:26] evy inch. Passov would
[3:57:27] ha to be hh enough that
[3:57:29] and I don't ally rember to
[3:57:31] th day, theheht of a
[3:57:32] vecle, butt was somewhe
[3:57:36] around 1to 20 fe. To get
[3:57:36] make se the trks that go
[3:57:37] on on that roadw would b
[3:57:42] le to geunder it. Ll, to
[3:57:43] do that,ou havto remember
[3:57:45] for every in you neea
[3:57:49] ot. And the problewas just
[3:57:51] lookg at we didn have
[3:57:53] enou room to be le to
[3:57:54] builit and stillet people
[3:57:55] paed, but probably wld
[3:57:57] have goneack 102 yardto be
[3:57:59] ableto gethe height wend
[3:58:00] to cro over pss the price
[3:58:02] But did loonto it one
[3:58:03] time. You know,obvioly when
[3:58:04] wead the sne crabs and
[3:58:05] other thin are goi on, it
[3:58:08] waa bo, even sy of that.
[3:58:10] But I waed to shari thin
[3:58:11] Chris, pbably ov everyone
[3:58:16] se that.
[3:58:16] >> y want to finh a list
[3:58:17] common n good. It'soing
[3:58:18] to bmy la call. Wouldou
[3:58:20] like tfinish your list? The
[3:58:22] coents, ok, MR. Flores
[3:58:23] you're recnized. Thank yo
[3:58:24] all be qui. Commissione
[3:58:25] tracks know u're busy of
[3:58:26] naked, buthank youor
[3:58:26] pickinup the Digit County
[3:58:31] Suey Awardfor ommissioner
[3:58:32] Constance, y bring iup
[3:58:33] challengg, push to take
[3:58:33] vantage of thnology.
[3:58:37] So, you know, kudos Ben
[3:58:37] Bailey and h becausehey've
[3:58:39] goen that the ndful of
[3:58:40] yearin a rowSo we'll wll
[3:58:41] keep pssing foard. Thank
[3:58:42] you, chr. Yeah, thathat
[3:58:43] prestation igoing to ben
[3:58:44] the Septber meeting.Irst,
[3:58:47] beesn Septemr.
[3:58:52] >> MR. An says s. Real
[3:58:52] quic apprecie the people
[3:58:57] coming in om the pents. It
[3:58:58] d and ife discussed on
[3:58:58] the phe call, t maybe one
[3:58:59] thought is tsee abou
[3:59:05] rtneringp with oer
[3:59:05] ssibly f-profit or
[3:59:06] not-for-prof groups onto
[3:59:07] landre some of t other
[3:59:07] on around en mention tt
[3:59:08] before., yoknow, Shaker
[3:59:13] mn. But I yoknow, I
[3:59:14] think thers an opptunity
[3:59:15] nojust talkingabouyour
[3:59:16] situion, but alsthe
[3:59:17] gentlen talkinabout the
[3:59:20] rehouse Babck. You know
[3:59:22] king surthat we're fly
[3:59:23] ilizing county facities.
[3:59:24] So think tt's maybe
[3:59:24] mething thate have t
[3:59:26] nversatis about. At's
[3:59:31] it. Ank Shoulalready.
[3:59:32] Comm. Derty: Thank u,
[3:59:32] MR. Chrman. Ye, I was
[3:59:33] gog to bring uMr. Ekel
[3:59:34] from thaclock ranch the
[3:59:34] fireuse 31. Yes, I'the
[3:59:38] commisoner. He been in
[3:59:38] communicatn with a I've
[3:59:39] beenorking with ores on
[3:59:41] th as wel I wouljust ask
[3:59:46] ctor if you uld take
[3:59:47] brief alboard member a new
[3:59:48] onon ones to the status
[3:59:49] ofhat buildingnd what e
[3:59:51] plans arso that we a know
[3:59:54] and thenprobab sent an
[3:59:57] mail, so kind of written
[3:59:57] Mrna cse to Ali.Onathan
[3:59:58] kns what t real plans e
[3:59:59] for the unty. I preciate
[4:00:03] at. He aed that we ok
[4:00:08] into I the reason r my
[4:00:08] >> for mcomments, I d
[4:00:13] speak to sta when that v
[4:00:14] post reque came inmy
[4:00:15] undersnding is we ren't
[4:00:15] readto surpl at
[4:00:19] proper. That's right.O,
[4:00:19] you kn, I gueswe can
[4:00:20] foalize a lett and
[4:00:22] corrpond withe gentleman
[4:00:23] It's just wre not rdy to
[4:00:24] do tt. We have dermined
[4:00:29] it ready for rplus. Yeah,
[4:00:30] you're recnized, Tnk you,
[4:00:30] MrBut yeah, I ink thatut
[4:00:31] that'sxactly the dlogue, I
[4:00:32] ink MR. Flor, these ey
[4:00:36] have wh each one ous
[4:00:36] invidually.
[4:00:37] So he gets e sense,
[4:00:37] you knowwhere he's hding
[4:00:38] withake suree's got
[4:00:39] coensus from t oard
[4:00:44] contue down that ph.
[4:00:45] >> Com Tiseo: d in regards
[4:00:46] to the Part outrea
[4:00:47] program, did spe to staff
[4:00:50] out. Ou kw, what the
[4:00:53] county couldo, ou
[4:00:54] facilitiesi don't ink we
[4:00:55] havecilitiescoucive
[4:00:56] bett readily avaable to
[4:00:59] lee out. To nonprofit o
[4:01:00] for-profitor any
[4:01:03] organition. I ink. We
[4:01:06] don'have thakind of spac
[4:01:07] availae. So I ess what the
[4:01:07] speaker sa is she'
[4:01:10] entifiedProperes that
[4:01:14] have thahave facities th
[4:01:14] can house bis. I'm I
[4:01:17] unaware at at this int. So
[4:01:18] have to get th staffnd
[4:01:22] maybe Hector n. We'llust
[4:01:22] go oveone more timat our
[4:01:24] ne staff mting to
[4:01:25] derstandhat th invento
[4:01:26] is that at has a building
[4:01:30] that's thousds of sqre
[4:01:31] feet. Ferber, u know tt we
[4:01:31] can e for birds. Don't
[4:01:35] kn if one
[4:01:36] >> Cm. Doherty: y just
[4:01:37] reted commt it's pass.
[4:01:41] Think itight be se secto
[4:01:41] look atn workshop anda
[4:01:42] in theelativelnear future.
[4:01:44] Look at alofur spacethat
[4:01:46] are ey can right no I have
[4:01:48] nolue whate've got fo
[4:01:49] ace. Justo confirm wh
[4:01:52] the chaian's lking abt.
[4:01:53] And soe we undstand that I
[4:01:53] dot I don't kn what we
[4:01:57] ve, whate don't hifor
[4:02:00] primily that'sn cupied
[4:02:01] anthat we're hding on
[4:02:01] for futu needs leasthat we
[4:02:05] beeve it.
[4:02:06] >> Syeah, cae yet becaus
[4:02:07] it to the tent if do have
[4:02:08] y spe d staff idenfied
[4:02:09] as apoteial future nd,
[4:02:13] we're t going give that
[4:02:14] up a then trto get it ba
[4:02:15] because get I n't know wha
[4:02:16] it is yet.E'll havto.
[4:02:17] We'll ve to take aook at
[4:02:18] that ientory. I'm st
[4:02:21] unawarof it atthis me.
[4:02:22] There s a gentman spoke
[4:02:24] out the Pira arbor Msbu
[4:02:25] and that thenot bein
[4:02:25] volved itheir budget
[4:02:26] process. Tt doesn'sound
[4:02:30] righto me. A be used
[4:02:30] typically apoved the work
[4:02:31] plano go over thbudget.
[4:02:34] So. You knowSo I just
[4:02:36] ked staff to addhat to m
[4:02:37] thoscommentsr neck sff
[4:02:38] meetin I just likeo
[4:02:39] understa what th gentleman
[4:02:39] was talking out. I d't I
[4:02:44] don'derstandhat.
[4:02:44] >> Cm. Constanceyour
[4:02:45] consous as pice. They to
[4:02:46] interrupt servant.F that's
[4:02:46] tually the t of my lt.
[4:02:49] And neglected a ttle bit
[4:02:50] ncerned out what ey
[4:02:51] talkedbout. Yoknow, they
[4:02:52] hathe seagrassmitation
[4:02:53] planid everythinthey wer
[4:02:53] pposed tdo to get prty
[4:02:57] close to mpletion. Th the
[4:02:57] stor watch wed everythin
[4:03:02] out and th it's onhem to
[4:03:02] replant everhing.
[4:03:03] >> Cm. TiseoWhat staff I
[4:03:04] spoke to sff a sta meeting
[4:03:04] out that. If remembe
[4:03:05] ght, sta had said th
[4:03:08] tried plting it didn't te
[4:03:09] and theyound that th were
[4:03:09] lookg for anlternate
[4:03:12] ogram. I thi they ried
[4:03:12] twicand it didn't ta. So I
[4:03:13] unrstood tt part of wh
[4:03:15] he was talkinabout. So th
[4:03:17] came up th an alrnate
[4:03:18] progm to satisfyat
[4:03:19] mitigaon. I believ
[4:03:20] something th effect.
[4:03:23] Ssus. Les is coming up.
[4:03:24] But I rememb having at
[4:03:24] convertion with th
[4:03:25] seagrass. Itust they goi
[4:03:30] to spendmore money plan an
[4:03:31] unsuccessfuled of serass
[4:03:31] and didn't makeense. I
[4:03:33] beeve it w on those nes.
[4:03:37] Plse correct mon that
[4:03:37] MISS Lewis.
[4:03:38] >>ood afteoon. For theee
[4:03:38] Lewis,eputy Coty
[4:03:39] adminirator commisoner.
[4:03:40] That correcthem looking
[4:03:44] for John becse he shld be
[4:03:45] comingut yes, th is
[4:03:46] actuly an agreemt with
[4:03:47] mu be on th on this tha
[4:03:49] be adcating wh the
[4:03:52] agen for relief om. What
[4:03:55] weonsider be
[4:03:56] overrdened. Simo
[4:03:57] potentiay that not following
[4:03:59] eir own There was a meeti
[4:04:00] scheduleth the p belve
[4:04:03] last Mday this Mond it was
[4:04:04] caeled dueo weather. B
[4:04:04] I'll letohn speaa little
[4:04:09] t further.
[4:04:10] >> Thankou, commsioner,
[4:04:10] fothe record, hn. Unle
[4:04:11] public wks director.O to
[4:04:12] Emils Point,e do concur
[4:04:13] with a lot osentimt from
[4:04:14] thfks there. Wee share
[4:04:16] the frusation. What?
[4:04:18] >>he at the enof the day
[4:04:24] wegot toddge permit. E
[4:04:24] grants pmit had rtain
[4:04:25] requements that have to
[4:04:26] et to inude some eagrass
[4:04:27] migation. E seagrass
[4:04:30] mitigation dn't go awell.
[4:04:32] But we'reringing oth folks
[4:04:33] anto include Brann people
[4:04:34] our teaand others t
[4:04:37] basically like can is be
[4:04:38] can is count as e
[4:04:39] mitigati over here? Because
[4:04:42] the area thathey're at
[4:04:42] ey're isolatg didn't
[4:04:45] mily's pnt didn't dowell.
[4:04:47] We agree wi a lot of wh
[4:04:48] they're ying ande're doing
[4:04:50] evything wcan. So when y
[4:04:50] heard abt the chges,
[4:04:52] thers ongoinworkhat
[4:04:54] we're still ing with that
[4:04:54] and work. Ani think met
[4:04:55] with tm this wk. I don't
[4:04:56] know wh the utcome was.
[4:04:57] Were slad to meelast
[4:04:58] Mond and then weould mee
[4:05:02] th them thgentleman that
[4:05:03] spoke at he second the. He
[4:05:05] giveus a list of estions
[4:05:06] th he wantus answers a
[4:05:08] we're gog to go throh
[4:05:08] tensive st. Agai we kind
[4:05:09] concur th a lot of e
[4:05:13] sentimenthat thehave.
[4:05:13] Yeah, and I ink the ggest
[4:05:14] thinwas he said ey weren
[4:05:15] involvedn the budgetrocess
[4:05:16] fotheir own msbu. Don't
[4:05:18] knowow th could be. I
[4:05:20] dot eitherbut through it
[4:05:21] and make se they wl be
[4:05:21] hone, transparenas we ca
[4:05:24] . MR. Kh yes. Thank u,
[4:05:24] sir.O, you kw, I guess t
[4:05:29] problem if thenvironme
[4:05:30] >> Comm.Onstance: isot
[4:05:30] appropate for agrass
[4:05:31] beuse the eastall is
[4:05:32] long seagrs. And that'
[4:05:33] exactly whe this mt.
[4:05:34] Replanti. They're rely
[4:05:35] throwi good moy after bad.
[4:05:35] It's just t going work.
[4:05:39] Soon't penaze them. So m
[4:05:41] glad to ar staff is on their
[4:05:42] side and agrs. And Ion't
[4:05:44] thinany of us digree with
[4:05:45] that. Let'keep thimoving
[4:05:45] foard. And cane pleaseet
[4:05:49] an upde in about aonth and
[4:05:50] ves you ow, at MAY b
[4:05:52] under admistrationomet or
[4:05:53] something, b we justot to
[4:05:53] stayon top of th. And I
[4:05:54] wa them tonow they there
[4:05:58] being ard and at 're
[4:05:59] followg.
[4:06:00] >> Anoer anoth challenge
[4:06:00] we've had anwe've det with
[4:06:01] th with a lot differe
[4:06:03] things. St at a highvel
[4:06:04] here wget technicaexpert
[4:06:06] in thcommunity and the are
[4:06:06] techcal expes like peopl
[4:06:09] This is at they've do and
[4:06:10] theyant to providenput and
[4:06:11] nt to bes part of th
[4:06:11] gotiatio. But we can
[4:06:15] really l that ppen. So
[4:06:16] 're tryi to let theme
[4:06:18] part of. But 're so the
[4:06:19] inealing with e agency
[4:06:19] ey're li where the
[4:06:20] applicant th have toalk
[4:06:21] with u So that's o of th
[4:06:22] challengeshey wererying to
[4:06:23] rike a balan and wor
[4:06:28] rough.
[4:06:28] >> It was al commentn the
[4:06:33] popethe project d quot
[4:06:34] unquote reement that
[4:06:34] requiredith the ate to
[4:06:35] grt an xtension. I d a
[4:06:37] publicdiscussi here from
[4:06:38] th deiah scifically asng
[4:06:42] the coty attory. Ife're
[4:06:44] violing any kd of stute
[4:06:45] and at I remembe right,
[4:06:47] MrDavid, u can correcme.
[4:06:51] My undstandi is 's not
[4:06:51] dened onhat agreement
[4:06:54] in at rticular stion on
[4:06:56] anting agreent. Some
[4:06:56] countieshroughouthe state
[4:06:57] have a formal ocess.Here
[4:07:00] comeback to the bod? Me
[4:07:02] don't.Nd thegencies except
[4:07:04] e extensions from stto
[4:07:04] theistaff. That s my
[4:07:06] undetanding.That correct.
[4:07:10] That's a goodummary. Ank
[4:07:11] you. Sas far adog
[4:07:12] sothg illegal on the
[4:07:13] extension. Wod you sagree
[4:07:19] with that? Causwe're bein
[4:07:20] accused ofng gs
[4:07:22] illey on extensis on
[4:07:23] vid County attorney.E
[4:07:23] the coes in compliance
[4:07:27] withtatute. I understanif
[4:07:28] peop disree with that t
[4:07:29] of timesouut couple
[4:07:29] wyers in the room ge
[4:07:32] dierent wers. But as far
[4:07:34] as t county's awer,s
[4:07:34] that word companceYeah. I
[4:07:36] think the stents were we
[4:07:38] ki of dropped the lln
[4:07:38] llowing on that. T like
[4:07:39] I said, it was discsed
[4:07:40] publly. Asked that sam
[4:07:43] questionAnd then actually
[4:07:44] threw out tohe boa
[4:07:46] meers. Do we wantohang
[4:07:47] our poli and make so it
[4:07:49] esome to the boa f
[4:07:53] approv for extsions w
[4:07:54] wanted iat thapoint ere.
[4:07:55] There were 3 had nSoe
[4:07:57] kept iast
[4:08:00] mistrative thing othe
[4:08:01] exnsions. Just to leyou
[4:08:02] l know tt you ne
[4:08:03] commissi program ikickg
[4:08:04] off. I'll btaki the
[4:08:07] le thitime arounon that.
[4:08:08] 're seing updas were
[4:08:09] gettint e-mails th know
[4:08:11] of anyothercommsiers for
[4:08:12] thxt time around. W
[4:08:13] going this on rotatio
[4:08:14] I know did.He first one
[4:08:17] commission direcd e last
[4:08:19] d it'sack to magain. B
[4:08:21] do needn answer w. I
[4:08:22] just thrinit out there.
[4:08:23] Someing to tnk aboutSo
[4:08:25] get readfor at. At's
[4:08:26] minground commsionern
[4:08:27] th. Misterhaman, I thi
[4:08:27] il down where yound
[4:08:28] were gngo bounce back d
[4:08:31] forth because nobo ee
[4:08:32] ally hava big intestn
[4:08:33] runninprogm. So okayif
[4:08:34] th'she way erybodstl
[4:08:35] feels d at's wt welan
[4:08:36] to t nt 10 yearswe're
[4:08:43] likely tget OKthis was
[4:08:46] brout a the la year
[4:08:46] abt e leworking progra
[4:08:48] and bringingeoe ba to
[4:08:49] rk. Went rough an aud
[4:08:53] with the crknd heou he
[4:08:54] madeomrecommdations to
[4:08:56] our admistration telewoing
[4:08:58] licy. And speakinrently
[4:09:00] aty st sta meeting wit
[4:09:03] MrFlores, he'imemente
[4:09:04] thosrecommdations an
[4:09:05] erybody's cko work.
[4:09:06] Cepthose w do n. We
[4:09:10] don't ve aspacfor. And
[4:09:11] now e tcu hathe w
[4:09:11] facity tre that we
[4:09:14] nting. Mt of tse peoe
[4:09:15] are ba. So thenly pele
[4:09:17] who arworkinfrohome some
[4:09:18] oplerom financ We dot
[4:09:19] yehave tt spe availabl
[4:09:23] We're workg on itand pele
[4:09:23] whha a medicaexse to
[4:09:28] beorng frohome. And I
[4:09:28] lieve was Cosioner
[4:09:29] Doy who sa he wanted t
[4:09:30] ke sure tht least the
[4:09:34] boardspocy was conent
[4:09:35] wi ainistration inerms
[4:09:37] of ourdepame bringing
[4:09:38] evybody backo work. I
[4:09:39] eve now wee ready to
[4:09:41] ing everybback to wo.
[4:09:43] Soust wantedo put that
[4:09:44] outhere as fs working
[4:09:50] home. I brght up at
[4:09:52] la meet copy of se our
[4:09:53] travel bget over he last 4,
[4:09:53] years. Derstand ebody
[4:09:55] has but I'm noure staff
[4:10:00] had ear he nod. I propos
[4:10:02] roll thosback to atleast
[4:10:05] 2022 levelThent from
[4:10:08] hly 500,000 90000. A lot
[4:10:09] it with c, but a li
[4:10:11] bit fromeach dartment. I
[4:10:12] justt to ke sure it
[4:10:14] clear we're dirting
[4:10:15] stafto brg somethinck
[4:10:16] to therd during is
[4:10:18] budget cycto help cu
[4:10:19] those cost Is that cct?
[4:10:21] Gentle are Did Iet that
[4:10:21] wrg? Commissr director
[4:10:26] ank you,ir.
[4:10:26] >> Comm.Ruex: I'm sure
[4:10:27] we had odds onhat. But
[4:10:28] wh I will sa I think w
[4:10:28] ed to take look at
[4:10:32] woshop at decide, y know,
[4:10:32] withdministrats
[4:10:36] guidanceich which ofse
[4:10:37] becausme of thesprograms
[4:10:37] arvery impor for the
[4:10:38] s to get tse
[4:10:39] aceditations to contin
[4:10:42] the profesonalism of
[4:10:43] departmes. So I re like
[4:10:44] to hunderstandg of what
[4:10:45] they arso that we this
[4:10:49] withcalpel. Noa
[4:10:49] chai.
[4:10:50] >> That' excellentdea. I
[4:10:54] don'object to actually
[4:10:55] asd Hector ae point wa
[4:10:55] while ago.Ou know, y
[4:10:56] bring me sothing withr
[4:10:57] recommenons after u get
[4:10:58] with yr directord see
[4:11:01] whatld beut. So we
[4:11:02] had not ring that that
[4:11:03] u know, sowork with
[4:11:03] alpel. Neea workshop
[4:11:07] ing back. Wre go. Oka
[4:11:11] We've got 5 had We've got
[4:11:15] alpels ay. I knowwe'
[4:11:16] got a long with landuse.
[4:11:19] So Ihink whategood
[4:11:20] Commission Deutsch,
[4:11:22] going to cile back yoth
[4:11:27] and lastall. OkAll
[4:11:29] right.Re Okay that
[4:11:30] endsy omments. S are
[4:11:35] now 0pm and use ag.
[4:11:36] Anybody ng testimo today
[4:11:38] on a of the la use ems
[4:11:39] if you'rgoing to s on
[4:11:41] consent or gular landse
[4:11:42] agenda, ease standand be
[4:11:42] swin. Take yr oath wit
[4:11:45] e clerk. Body givin
[4:11:45] stimony poced and tahe
[4:11:47] oath.
[4:11:51] Please rayour righ
[4:11:52] nd. Do youemnly swea
[4:11:53] e testimonthat you'r
[4:11:55] out to get do right?Nd
[4:11:56] thank you.O you sole
[4:11:57] swear? Testimony tt
[4:11:57] you're abo to give ie
[4:11:58] truth, thole truthnd
[4:11:59] nothing t the trutlease
[4:12:05] say ay. Thank u.
[4:12:06] >> Comm.Iseo: Okay I'm
[4:12:06] goin open up t public
[4:12:07] inpu This s for land
[4:12:08] consent agentems. Only
[4:12:11] at's va on
[4:12:13] >> Thrgh 8, t are
[4:12:15] consitems. If're here
[4:12:20] regular agenitems
[4:12:21] for use will t to those
[4:12:25] xt. OkayIs there anyby
[4:12:26] wishing topeak on cot?
[4:12:29] Only? Pase come frd
[4:12:29] state name. Youill
[4:12:36] have. 3inutes. Ani have
[4:12:40] Doct Mary Elless on too.
[4:12:46] Mmends Ba DR. Mary l
[4:12:47] kissepresentin bring
[4:12:50] Storridor coition. E
[4:12:51] Brewst Corridor ition
[4:12:53] respully reques. That
[4:12:55] e board ofounty
[4:12:57] commisoners de approval
[4:13:04] he prosed modifion.
[4:13:05] >> To dg pg finadetailed
[4:13:07] si Plan or c onfor 2,
[4:13:07] whicwould incr the
[4:13:11] deveent by 100 tional
[4:13:12] dwng units. D this is
[4:13:14] see that Ce, they. 2 of
[4:13:18] ese propos Euce 96 woul
[4:13:18] ted withinhe coastal
[4:13:22] gh hard areas rng
[4:13:25] siificant cons about
[4:13:25] potential pacts on t
[4:13:26] watershed mwater
[4:13:29] mament and dinage
[4:13:29] capaci of the sunding
[4:13:33] areaWere paicularly
[4:13:34] coerned about the ting
[4:13:37] homeong troute, hich
[4:13:39] joinhe exion area a
[4:13:42] they be espeally vulnee
[4:13:45] to existand future
[4:13:45] flooding cditions. Ae
[4:13:46] board isre, the fil
[4:13:49] brief surgin eport preped
[4:13:51] by Kimhorn has rently
[4:13:53] beeneleased. Our oalition
[4:13:54] urrently riewing the
[4:13:56] repo's finding
[4:13:57] recommendas to identy
[4:13:59] the highes Priority
[4:14:03] ainage impvement pros
[4:14:03] and to evaate a corrve
[4:14:06] actiond lunchroo
[4:14:07] safeards neede address
[4:14:08] istent drainageershed
[4:14:11] and floodissues throhout
[4:14:12] tharter. Until th review
[4:14:14] revi has been cometed and
[4:14:16] thcounty has deterd how
[4:14:19] willbe impnted 3 por
[4:14:22] recommendaons. We believe
[4:14:26] uld be premattopprove
[4:14:26] addional residal density
[4:14:32] this areaAccogly. We
[4:14:33] spectfullyrge the board t
[4:14:35] nsideratioof this rst
[4:14:38] and torain from proving
[4:14:40] y increaseand willi units
[4:14:43] in existievelopment
[4:14:45] ether throh transferf
[4:14:47] density rections
[4:14:51] designatitigation s or
[4:14:52] mechanisinto t critical
[4:14:55] n. A foot, gei
[4:14:56] concerave been aquately
[4:14:59] addrs. We dnot think
[4:15:03] on should taken. To
[4:15:04] prove any hese expanon
[4:15:05] projectsThank you.Hank
[4:15:08] your commentsman.
[4:15:08] >> Anydy else wig to
[4:15:10] spea consent itonly
[4:15:10] pleaome forwarstate.
[4:15:11] Yourame for the recor You
[4:15:17] will he 3 minutecan see
[4:15:18] nody rise. Ionna we're
[4:15:19] nna go thrgh the con
[4:15:19] Commissiminute youre
[4:15:20] sorry, Mter Richieu're
[4:15:24] recoed. Ststate your
[4:15:31] me and whi item. Richie.
[4:15:32] And I'ing to be lking
[4:15:38] about.Thact same im. Dr
[4:15:39] ss was jusspeing about.
[4:15:45] At's va to
[4:15:45] >> Yeah, t 2 do va oa
[4:15:47] too.
[4:15:48] We're a l lull in
[4:15:54] e. U know, it really
[4:15:55] insting if y all are
[4:15:55] liening to tetro
[4:16:00] fore earlier. Yoknow. We
[4:16:01] never hearwe need a
[4:16:09] hoital. Nowe word.
[4:16:09] >> And ssee in va e, you
[4:16:13] wanto do 204 units the
[4:16:14] va to youant to 100
[4:16:18] ngle-familots. And some
[4:16:19] 96ots within coastal
[4:16:21] hazard ar.
[4:16:28] We are rinow. The Pce
[4:16:29] ver and thyakka Ri
[4:16:30] with all the rawhi
[4:16:32] wasn't vermuch rain.
[4:16:37] Evody.
[4:16:38] >> Is stl at the lt
[4:16:39] watermarhey've beein
[4:16:41] story. Comioner Dority
[4:16:42] commsioner nstance
[4:16:42] cosioner to mmissioner
[4:16:44] uax commisoner Deuts
[4:16:47] Did you hear thThe lowest
[4:16:50] water lels ever?
[4:16:55] >> I just hed all.
[4:16:56] >> Bon Moody'soing to
[4:16:56] get volved. Wegoing to
[4:16:57] this one. 're going
[4:16:59] get that on But what'e
[4:17:03] one commenominator
[4:17:04] Commissier Dohertyn't
[4:17:10] the oys take?
[4:17:11] >> I wt everybod this
[4:17:12] chamin the couy to hear
[4:17:14] answer. Ty not ke
[4:17:15] becaustheris toxic
[4:17:16] polled water ie Peace
[4:17:20] Ri
[4:17:21] >> n have a frnd of mine
[4:17:22] o made a cnt the other
[4:17:23] downne of my post o
[4:17:25] cebook ande's be in the
[4:17:27] Peace Rivelongern any of
[4:17:28] ever have. He's his
[4:17:32] chil in the Pee River
[4:17:33] th.
[4:17:33] >> came ba from the ital
[4:17:34] and an still wer ski,
[4:17:40] bareot. And, yoow, he
[4:17:41] sa the wateror of the
[4:17:41] r has chand drastica
[4:17:47] Why? Every r is a
[4:17:47] difft color fr Tampa Bay
[4:17:50] CharloHarbor. You kw
[4:17:52] why Ms becse of osphate
[4:17:56] mini dischargiNo, you
[4:18:01] guant to contito re
[4:18:01] housess, why? The's
[4:18:02] 11,000ouses for right
[4:18:06] no Charlotteounty. How
[4:18:06] can yowith colle
[4:18:12] educationsHon you or
[4:18:17] stafre staff? U know
[4:18:17] th'm not telng
[4:18:18] commissiontaff's rubr
[4:18:20] stamp and this stand
[4:18:21] they'rt followinthe
[4:18:26] rules. Because ware
[4:18:27] investing that bck and
[4:18:28] whit And you kwhat we're
[4:18:30] eing, doesadd up. Thank
[4:18:35] yo sir.
[4:18:35] >> Any b wishing tspeak
[4:18:36] on connt items, ent land
[4:18:41] Cg. Nobody se.
[4:18:42] Commissier anythin pull?
[4:18:43] Ye. Let's fua to and
[4:18:46] about So t va to
[4:18:50] commsioner to accounts
[4:18:51] the thingsmissioned
[4:18:52] ady nothin I have
[4:18:53] nothg else movthe
[4:18:54] balling. Have tion a
[4:18:55] cond to mo the balanIs
[4:18:56] there further dision?
[4:18:59] Thery oppositi to the
[4:18:59] moti, ok? The nce has
[4:19:02] bepproved of csent.
[4:19:03] Commisoner do itu pulled
[4:19:05] o You're rognized
[4:19:11] present. Wisclosures
[4:19:12] mmissionerYh. I met my
[4:19:14] commissi or 2 most
[4:19:19] Commoner Constce,
[4:19:19] dilosure.
[4:19:20] >> Cmissioner onthly
[4:19:21] stbriefing wh the
[4:19:21] communy DevelopmCounty
[4:19:22] Atey's Officenvironmen
[4:19:25] paperwork this morng.
[4:19:27] >> I hady monthly f
[4:19:28] meetinand also rved
[4:19:28] e-mailm Doctor Ks. And I
[4:19:31] fid my discles.
[4:19:55] You'ecognized en you're
[4:20:16] rey. Whenevyou're ady.
[4:20:18] And think rry. Okay.D
[4:20:23] afternoor record. Shl.
[4:20:27] Can heo nt Penn t
[4:20:28] >>etition dr6 Dash 0, 2,
[4:20:31] c 7.S a fine a final
[4:20:36] deta site planSoe's
[4:20:39] requesti what patientl
[4:20:40] pt l detaiay, Plan o
[4:20:45] 25 dash 1, 4, 2, apoval,
[4:20:49] sey Abe fus across w
[4:20:50] and previo. It's cal
[4:20:53] si life. Andhe prosed
[4:20:57] projecconsistf you call
[4:20:58] priestn 1996, knweaving
[4:21:00] thastal s area and for
[4:21:03] lo with him on. Coast
[4:21:06] ea f a total 100
[4:21:07] singleily. Lots.So the
[4:21:12] enti project c10, 6
[4:21:13] 68.4, 3 acs and is led
[4:21:15] to thet side of rnt
[4:21:16] storad and we n come
[4:21:19] distct 2. This is geral
[4:21:20] locati of the sut.
[4:21:24] ProperAnd the is the
[4:21:27] ea image othe subject.
[4:21:28] Operty at ll ange. You
[4:21:28] see that a located t
[4:21:29] e east sid burnt sto
[4:21:34] road. And tha 2026gle
[4:21:35] Butte e of the sject.
[4:21:39] Proper. D the prop
[4:21:41] zoned Pb I just wd to
[4:21:43] be a ese projecese
[4:21:45] e agent pd dying 20
[4:21:50] and they 5 jor
[4:21:51] modifions r these
[4:21:52] prt have sine-family
[4:21:55] hos muchf the homeey
[4:21:56] have. The last te s
[4:22:00] down, whicwas year. So
[4:22:01] the d approvedd rezoning
[4:22:05] r he site. Shas te
[4:22:10] right up to230 units.I
[4:22:14] last t transferthe
[4:22:16] densit'm sorr actuall
[4:22:18] dca in Februa MARCH, the
[4:22:19] ju95oastal higzard.
[4:22:23] And eve, becauortion of
[4:22:24] thproject located, t
[4:22:28] wheezing, coastal ar
[4:22:31] 3 yearago and they did t
[4:22:33] transf 2024. Non astal
[4:22:34] high hard densit the
[4:22:35] subjprop, the base
[4:22:39] d stuff ase, 6 units.
[4:22:41] Last yeaey didn't m,
[4:22:43] modifition. So the chanc
[4:22:44] y t of the Pept
[4:22:48] plan. Pull she oe
[4:22:50] density located ithe
[4:22:54] coastal gh hazard. So
[4:22:55] that's w already tyear
[4:22:58] ey filed thTdu and Csthe
[4:23:01] ceified. The 9 non
[4:23:01] coashigh hazardensity
[4:23:04] off the site ahe ple. 95
[4:23:08] coastahigh has a un to
[4:23:09] site. Sot was downnd
[4:23:13] approvedy the boardthe
[4:23:16] lution. So basic aof
[4:23:18] to the si has 6 base
[4:23:18] nsity unitwhh could be
[4:23:20] cated in toastal has
[4:23:23] . An95 transferThe
[4:23:25] coastal s a densit
[4:23:28] site. So tse is actu the
[4:23:30] fa 2 of thpd. So
[4:23:34] come ful100 un 96ts
[4:23:35] would ocating thcoastal
[4:23:36] highhazardas and loced
[4:23:39] outside ast rea. So you n
[4:23:42] see these the zon You ca
[4:23:44] e as zone ng a x Sunday.
[4:23:49] Very spreazone. An
[4:23:50] these e U.S. A pwhich
[4:23:51] you e to the lthe
[4:23:57] city face oor 120 uts
[4:23:58] and then tse isn't nt
[4:24:00] one. They'reuesting
[4:24:02] these me tvacationor the
[4:24:06] approval face to ha 96
[4:24:07] resides. Units wbe
[4:24:08] locate the coast high
[4:24:10] hazarea nd for un
[4:24:11] would be led outsidef
[4:24:12] coastal hathe arnd his
[4:24:15] fidetails say frt,
[4:24:16] comprisi least allpd
[4:24:16] coions. Commsioner, do
[4:24:18] ve a quen?
[4:24:20] >> Yea just wanto
[4:24:25] clarify right nowe
[4:24:26] site is it's a tol of
[4:24:26] 68 acr. Is that ect?
[4:24:30] Yes.Whatapproved right
[4:24:35] noon thate.
[4:24:36] >> Therezoning aroved
[4:24:36] the si full up t20 30
[4:24:37] unit
[4:24:43] >> Total. Hony? 230? So
[4:24:44] they cou go build units
[4:24:50] on ight now. So thel
[4:24:50] final des. A plan at's
[4:24:51] approv by the PDoning.
[4:24:52] Sos already en approve
[4:24:57] r those yoy, ok? Does
[4:24:57] this a another 1f we
[4:25:02] apprthis now because w
[4:25:02] prove, thawhere that
[4:25:03] ndreds that it w little
[4:25:07] coing. Ad this bee
[4:25:08] it lookse we're adding 100
[4:25:12] ngle-familits to tha
[4:25:13] >> Yes, he proven to030.
[4:25:19] They d face one appral,
[4:25:20] units. So e sinful
[4:25:23] unit the to me try
[4:25:27] it we approvthis today
[4:25:28] >> Comeutsch: Th'll only
[4:25:29] beble to bui00, not 20
[4:25:30] Is tcorrect?
[4:25:33] Or these fes 0 face
[4:25:37] 122, whicis greenSo
[4:25:38] whole site u feel prod
[4:25:40] today thatould build222
[4:25:42] unitby the pd rezg
[4:25:44] approvedident. Youright
[4:25:47] o 230 unit
[4:25:48] But that'already be
[4:25:54] approved syes. D this.
[4:25:54] Sos doesn't d a new
[4:26:01] unit Now. What doethis do
[4:26:06] thatIt's a fina
[4:26:07] >> pt finatail say pn.
[4:26:10] Okay. Acrding to d9.45 p
[4:26:12] so you hav concept plan
[4:26:13] to rezing approvome back
[4:26:17] the bod.
[4:26:18] >> To apove the fiWhat
[4:26:19] we dday has noffect on
[4:26:19] thnumber unihat's
[4:26:21] consnt. Correct. L
[4:26:26] right. Tha you. Ou do. The
[4:26:28] esentationas a show.
[4:26:29] So Yeah. Younow, if yo
[4:26:31] ve any mo, ok, any
[4:26:34] qutions for f? Ok
[4:26:35] We're gonnen up thistem.
[4:26:40] 4. Ll, we alr have
[4:26:45] publ. Evsince we nt t
[4:26:49] nsent on Ld does thaan
[4:26:49] for thi write a?
[4:26:50] Anybody wiing to spen
[4:26:52] this lease comeward
[4:26:53] statour name f the
[4:27:01] record
[4:27:01] omm. Truexi'm name I
[4:27:05] muel Charl County
[4:27:06] rent. Talkinabout the
[4:27:07] and show nes in
[4:27:07] Chartte Countyne of
[4:27:12] thisd this is r thi
[4:27:12] em.
[4:27:13] >> If a to for taseya ok,
[4:27:14] I'm rry. That'ay. No
[4:27:17] prm. No probm. Any bills
[4:27:20] veus pecan Vo.
[4:27:21] And good ternoon.
[4:27:25] Coissioners.Well,l you
[4:27:26] , everybodtake a goo
[4:27:33] ok at thisPul.
[4:27:34] >> Iyou go onlright now
[4:27:34] you put anyou pull t
[4:27:37] build qualhomes. On't be
[4:27:41] shd at what u In,
[4:27:48] it. Do you homany milli
[4:27:49] of gallonswater are ed
[4:27:55] from Pol arty DeSo
[4:27:56] Manatee Cy of Northt
[4:27:57] cif p#
[4:27:57] #
[4:27:57] #
[4:27:57] Gorn
[4:28:04] Charlottunty. Aou guys
[4:28:05] actual think we that
[4:28:09] extrter. Give to tse
[4:28:13] develope. Rporate
[4:28:17] caed. Corpo cronyism.
[4:28:18] At's what'going on h
[4:28:22] EverybodBecausuly at
[4:28:25] thoint n time,
[4:28:27] unfounately, o the most
[4:28:28] lligent th evsed to
[4:28:29] stbefore this chber is
[4:28:33] not re. And thatister
[4:28:38] RichRussell. Mist
[4:28:40] Richard Russelis a fw f
[4:28:45] informatn. And what woulhe
[4:28:47] be telli all of you right
[4:28:48] noou guys dn't listo
[4:28:52] me. Whatas it 3 4ears ago?
[4:28:53] Heasn't heren he
[4:28:55] suggd the morarium on n
[4:28:56] more issng a build
[4:29:01] permits. And yoknow wh?
[4:29:05] We've got time.
[4:29:11] I cdb. I a
[4:29:12] >> we got of pay tolay
[4:29:15] in this unty. And wee
[4:29:17] 11,000 hs for sal And
[4:29:21] then y all want ome
[4:29:22] here. 95ouses are he
[4:29:23] high f coastal ze or the
[4:29:27] fldplain areWhy d you
[4:29:29] guyst to approve
[4:29:31] someing? Why w you want
[4:29:32] to uprany mhousing
[4:29:36] depment in t county? U
[4:29:37] know, d a lovelyalk with
[4:29:40] door pits. I'sure you a
[4:29:42] know RichaHe not a
[4:29:48] dumm You knowt he I
[4:29:49] talk aboow, weo talk
[4:29:53] abouwater qual We talk
[4:29:56] t water qutity. And
[4:29:57] what'sng to bevailable
[4:30:02] toll of us. I want ebody
[4:30:03] in tchamber inn the
[4:30:05] countynd the citto
[4:30:06] derstand.
[4:30:06] >>o you wantknow where
[4:30:09] rld headed
[4:30:21] >> We're hded to to
[4:30:22] represtion. We'lnot yet
[4:30:28] fronof this. Yoe. If to
[4:30:28] me save e peace in
[4:30:30] myakka iChare Harbor.
[4:30:37] Are a few f you're
[4:30:38] ous about, you woul
[4:30:39] teennifer, is seen at
[4:30:40] yore going tet
[4:30:41] You're g to be witmay to
[4:30:43] comep with a p Not abo
[4:30:45] money. When we co back to
[4:30:53] th. Theind in wate
[4:30:55] ters will gorned here.
[4:30:56] D you knowt? We've r
[4:31:01] out guys, ter. Aft th
[4:31:01] meeting. Iave to heat to
[4:31:05] DeSoounty. Becausof t
[4:31:07] moratoriume the ai da
[4:31:08] centi wish I cod be in
[4:31:09] natee Countyid it beca
[4:31:12] having a ratorium v I I
[4:31:13] data cented you knowhat
[4:31:18] they wanto do.
[4:31:19] >> Bui nuclear actor to
[4:31:22] gerate powerfor tdata
[4:31:22] centThey want build in
[4:31:27] Noh Port. Not ju about
[4:31:31] have had wh tack change
[4:31:32] want to hearut.
[4:31:36] >> Cha We wan
[4:31:42] provementsn't have t
[4:31:46] water guys
[4:31:49] Every timy one of uin
[4:31:50] this cer do 10 t50
[4:31:59] props. That's water, 550
[4:32:00] militers Dr tance. And
[4:32:01] u know whait costs to se
[4:32:06] e-mail attorney TIt cost a
[4:32:07] battle of 850 mliters
[4:32:12] ofer. And u guys, yo
[4:32:18] got to htodaow all of
[4:32:20] voted for yoys that
[4:32:22] yoth us. Thaour
[4:32:26] commenk you.
[4:32:26] >>m. Tiseo: ank you.
[4:32:27] Anne else wig speak on
[4:32:28] is item. Pase come
[4:32:28] foard. You'lve 5 minut
[4:32:29] state. Youname. Thison
[4:32:32] va to y Abe.
[4:32:37] Gofternoon, chard.
[4:32:39] Litt. CharloCounty
[4:32:44] sidents. I belie that's
[4:32:45] wh they callinal detai
[4:32:48] site pup until weeks,
[4:32:49] mayb2 months ai had no
[4:32:50] what thats. I'm
[4:32:56] learniast. Tis more
[4:32:57] foe audiencet home wat
[4:32:59] us on tv. Is the time
[4:33:00] to involved cause of
[4:33:00] l detail. Te plan co
[4:33:01] with somet called
[4:33:04] coions. Nd unless can
[4:33:06] him anpeach one the
[4:33:09] conditionsthis is gog
[4:33:10] through nojust this
[4:33:11] delopment. E developme
[4:33:13] afterwardsIf it getsthis
[4:33:14] fafolks,f you wantn
[4:33:16] in develnt, this coun
[4:33:19] you've gotget invo at
[4:33:20] the mtings far re it
[4:33:21] ever to the fil details
[4:33:25] si plan. Unfornately, I
[4:33:27] thk if there'so faulting
[4:33:28] the nditions h this is
[4:33:29] g to be apoved
[4:33:29] regardss of how vacant
[4:33:32] lohere are. Because 's
[4:33:36] gotten tthe final ils
[4:33:36] silan. So fos at home
[4:33:39] geinvolved feyond.
[4:33:40] Lettthis t to a fin
[4:33:44] detail sitplan. Thanor
[4:33:44] your t Thank yousir.
[4:33:45] Anybodelse wishio speak
[4:33:46] onto please me forward
[4:33:46] ate your n For the
[4:33:54] rd. You'llave 5 minu
[4:33:54] >> MR. Cman, I seeo one
[4:33:55] else ring and waose
[4:33:55] publicut so thathe
[4:33:56] motion s to close ic
[4:33:57] input.There any rther
[4:33:59] discuson? There y
[4:33:59] oppositiono the moti
[4:34:05] public inps closed?
[4:34:06] Commissionoherty, Mr
[4:34:09] airman movapproval oto
[4:34:10] second, mo second to
[4:34:14] prove to. There any
[4:34:15] further diussion? Yei
[4:34:15] just wouike to yea we
[4:34:16] are at fal site Planeview,
[4:34:17] whicmeans it'sgot thugh a
[4:34:20] progion of pubc hearings
[4:34:21] and meet. I think ou
[4:34:24] look ae staff rert, this
[4:34:26] was in 2000. What
[4:34:27] that ain? When it first
[4:34:31] ? But comeck was 200
[4:34:32] >> firezoning Person 7
[4:34:36] yet 2005 t.
[4:34:37] >> Comm.Eo: Yes, o yeah.
[4:34:38] Thissn't new. Come
[4:34:38] backis differe
[4:34:39] iterationsnd some chs
[4:34:41] over the y. But I thk
[4:34:42] one of thepeakers that
[4:34:46] prom this to bpulled, we
[4:34:47] weren't ng units iexcess
[4:34:47] of wt it was ady
[4:34:49] approvor. I thinthat was
[4:34:50] point thathe boa
[4:34:51] wanted to ke. This ithin
[4:34:54] the ting 2 units, no
[4:34:56] extra. It'what was ready
[4:34:57] titled to. Property nt
[4:34:58] to make re we got on
[4:34:58] the recordIs there a
[4:35:00] further discussio Is there
[4:35:05] oppositionHeg? Ne
[4:35:06] that ps unanimsly 5 to
[4:35:07] 0.E areow going tmoven
[4:35:11] to regularand-use thb on
[4:35:14] And that iwas I cial
[4:35:18] star my left. Commisoner
[4:35:18] Deutsc
[4:35:23] >> And I tnk microone,
[4:35:24] them. At was Stepnie Visit
[4:35:25] thsite. Knhere was se
[4:35:26] neighbors ere. I don
[4:35:33] recall thee Th
[4:35:33] closures.
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[4:35:36] e-ils and otinformatio
[4:35:36] some of dclosure
[4:35:37] docunts. Commined
[4:35:37] alread
[4:35:42] >> a lot, Of my mohly
[4:35:42] staff brfing with unity
[4:35:43] deveent. The cnty
[4:35:45] attorney office in it
[4:35:49] actu public wos on this
[4:35:50] . I also h a meeting
[4:35:53] th Richard says the
[4:35:54] littnd they diuss they
[4:35:57] wa to discusny of the
[4:35:59] condns. Also the Eart
[4:36:00] moving 3 dh 5 dash, 4,8,
[4:36:03] 3, das This 79
[4:36:04] otrwise. Butt was the
[4:36:08] of the nversation
[4:36:09] yeah, nume emails which I
[4:36:10] fileall of thahis
[4:36:14] morning.Than
[4:36:15] Comm. TisThank you,
[4:36:16] ah, I alsoet with st
[4:36:16] met with tittles and
[4:36:17] ceived numous e-mailll
[4:36:18] of thawas filed led my
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[4:36:28] the b-e.
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[4:36:30] cord, Jay l me, he
[4:36:30] giveim could hmeant we
[4:36:35] in my planng my
[4:36:36] alificatio a nning
[4:36:37] expeId a bachel's of
[4:36:41] act. Iyour degand a
[4:36:44] er of commity plaing
[4:36:44] degree. Have beingde by
[4:36:47] Chare County aa
[4:36:48] pressional per for mor
[4:36:53] an 22 year uthwest
[4:36:57] enering and sign. Is
[4:36:59] requesting peak Haitdrc.
[4:37:05] Dash 0, 75, ich is apd
[4:37:06] finatail site an
[4:37:07] approvalor the water sid
[4:37:14] storation oject. These
[4:37:14] projectsite contai
[4:37:17] approximat293 acres
[4:37:20] an located inorth of
[4:37:22] Burm Road in east, the
[4:37:23] co and subject prerty's
[4:37:24] alsoocated in ission
[4:37:30] dict. One. Se is a
[4:37:31] image of subject.
[4:37:37] Erty. This se 26 ego
[4:37:38] w image ofhe subject
[4:37:43] operty. Andthese the are
[4:37:44] age of thisubj
[4:37:50] Propertyfull rangee
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[4:37:55] as mormfy mixed e. And
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[4:38:00] zo. So I wod like t
[4:38:01] pride a briestory of t
[4:38:06] property. Thesapk. She s
[4:38:06] originallycheduled f
[4:38:11] consideratby the board
[4:38:12] 26 2026.A consent ag
[4:38:17] item as board t, it was
[4:38:20] esented du the pup
[4:38:21] hearing and subsuent,
[4:38:22] contind to todaypublic
[4:38:23] aring. Thas why we'r
[4:38:31] re. Some MAY23rd 2023,he
[4:38:33] board ofCountyommissione
[4:38:34] oved ordince number
[4:38:39] 2023Dash, 0, 2, pd
[4:38:41] rezoniapprimately 740
[4:38:44] res and thubject
[4:38:44] propty. Well, final
[4:38:48] deta site plan.It
[4:38:51] eastportion ofroperty?
[4:38:55] Y's hearinis reed
[4:38:56] Charlotte ty code
[4:38:58] sens. Re Dash 9.45.
[4:38:59] Plned develot toure
[4:39:02] that the prosed pt fi
[4:39:06] detail saplans. It's
[4:39:09] constent with ted pd
[4:39:11] ndition come beingadopt
[4:39:12] dinance. Nber 2023, Da
[4:39:17] 0, 2, 0, Specificly on e
[4:39:21] screen is appved and adt
[4:39:25] apd We juse that e
[4:39:28] deparment nsist 2 ph has
[4:39:29] showe propose neral pd.
[4:39:33] Cont plan. So I woullike
[4:39:35] to crify e u of phase
[4:39:39] onand phase 2 inse
[4:39:42] rezoning ilely for
[4:39:43] locaon purposed it's not
[4:39:45] tended to present th
[4:39:46] ission. ULasing of t
[4:39:49] project.
[4:39:56] To appved and add pd
[4:39:58] condition.E listed,
[4:39:59] rmitted actities and u
[4:40:03] in phase oSo thut
[4:40:05] total 7 permit
[4:40:05] actities and uyou can
[4:40:08] se tcreen. The firs
[4:40:10] e storation ect and
[4:40:13] spic us tastet fal
[4:40:16] teaches ping approis
[4:40:16] reired prior tohe
[4:40:18] commencent of the
[4:40:20] Restorion Projecand shall
[4:40:23] beimited to rm of 1
[4:40:26] ars calculat from dateof
[4:40:26] the l Pete fin details
[4:40:29] si plaapproval. Nr
[4:40:34] 2 and abendrange Grovto
[4:40:35] be re ored was ne trees
[4:40:40] anderstory vetation. And
[4:40:43] item 3. A tive plantnursery
[4:40:44] ted in the identify
[4:40:45] ursery andree farms.
[4:40:48] Can see on tprove pd
[4:40:50] ncept plannd nr full
[4:40:54] remo the old centst
[4:40:55] ees d excavati the area
[4:40:59] tomove removSo youm
[4:41:01] decades quaculturese.
[4:41:08] And er 5. Wesavingws
[4:41:09] mulch vegetion to create
[4:41:12] mpost for replanng native
[4:41:16] trs. And numb, stop
[4:41:18] hiding of ecuting man
[4:41:20] maturewant you tCade in
[4:41:24] area idened as
[4:41:26] stocile and the mamum
[4:41:27] heightthe. Shall be
[4:41:31] more than0 feet. Andalso
[4:41:34] e Ways Assess uses,
[4:41:35] cluding bunot lited to
[4:41:36] scarhouse and ing and
[4:41:41] eqent. So RJrea. And
[4:41:43] alsopproved d adopt ap
[4:41:48] nditions. Li t
[4:41:49] existingpermittetivity
[4:41:52] anes in phe 2. She
[4:41:54] see e why exisng
[4:41:54] mulchingration is rt of
[4:41:57] an appved. Isting
[4:42:01] commcial excavn permit.
[4:42:02] And nt to poinout there
[4:42:07] ispproved and add pt
[4:42:09] conditn e specificay with
[4:42:11] plie that pd rezoni is
[4:42:13] requed in orde implement
[4:42:14] the oved rule ming to
[4:42:17] d use mastean to hav
[4:42:21] mixture of resential and
[4:42:23] commer uses the tal the
[4:42:25] 0 acres. So r these fi
[4:42:27] detail pd fal dl say
[4:42:28] poin only for e astern
[4:42:30] portn of the ect
[4:42:31] properor the resration
[4:42:34] Projt. So you can on the
[4:42:38] sc. It sws approve
[4:42:40] Jenna pd ccept whichthe
[4:42:43] left also the propopt
[4:42:47] final ils. A plano you
[4:42:48] camparison. Ah.
[4:42:49] Substaially consnt th
[4:42:50] approvedenna pd concept
[4:42:53] t. The prosed. Pt fal
[4:42:59] detail s plan. So the
[4:43:03] res of the testing as
[4:43:04] ired by a pd condit
[4:43:09] j. I uded in e file
[4:43:13] mber 3 also apoved pd
[4:43:14] commisoner l welbeing
[4:43:17] ed only if thapplt
[4:43:18] removes excavated terial
[4:43:24] fromhe properti shou I
[4:43:27] kind of to talk about
[4:43:30] condion, ut is coupl
[4:43:31] slides yan see at's used
[4:43:32] a storation. You can
[4:43:36] e site for entirse
[4:43:37] and they wl have the
[4:43:38] storation ect sed,
[4:43:41] the center a you can
[4:43:44] see plan to ve Suse
[4:43:49] else fulof these restoratn
[4:43:50] project. Sthis is cene
[4:43:50] and thuth to andells 3.
[4:43:54] And e says aftnieces
[4:43:55] wn.
[4:43:56] >> Thesethe sitas will be
[4:43:57] prep for the fure.
[4:43:59] Who'llome to make sh But
[4:44:00] thate they muscome to
[4:44:05] board full pd rezoni
[4:44:07] So the ashown the te.
[4:44:13] And migation plo
[4:44:16] reduce tound der, fast
[4:44:20] equired by food. The
[4:44:20] condion it's ided in the
[4:44:26] le named fter Afric
[4:44:27] Mition plan. Sthat
[4:44:29] Africahas 7 app rovided
[4:44:31] no mition measurend
[4:44:32] older prenting andrespon
[4:44:37] measures a asked.
[4:44:38] Suression anair qua
[4:44:40] protectid also the
[4:44:41] ided surfa and
[4:44:47] groundter morninan. So
[4:44:52] the updat I traffiit
[4:44:54] study iso part of the
[4:44:55] package for the ocation
[4:44:58] ane file namis 9 under
[4:44:58] sc. Watersidexcavation
[4:45:04] I s. And en hisry. All the
[4:45:06] hurrice traffic the
[4:45:07] subjt propertiAlso p
[4:45:09] of the BCckage and e
[4:45:10] file me is 1her school
[4:45:13] rican hurrane traffiThe
[4:45:17] rican has asubmitted
[4:45:19] terside so and water
[4:45:22] quy memorand, which is
[4:45:23] cluded as 5.11,the bcc
[4:45:28] pae for thesitem. The
[4:45:32] transcpt for MAY23r23
[4:45:33] bcc adon hearingor the
[4:45:34] PDezoning foe suect.
[4:45:36] Proper is attached s
[4:45:39] filed numb 12. So I
[4:45:42] stamps professi pending
[4:45:44] prop pt final tail si
[4:45:48] plan compli wheeze thp
[4:45:49] pd ctions available
[4:45:55] answer any tions you y
[4:45:55] have.
[4:45:56] >> t you. Thanyou. I had
[4:45:57] ster Davidthe Thank.
[4:45:57] Thanyou. Yes, re
[4:45:58] recogn. Thank yo MR.
[4:46:02] Cherryounty timethe
[4:46:03] unty attory.
[4:46:04] >> This a little of an
[4:46:04] unuscircumstan or so
[4:46:05] ago. Little co of
[4:46:06] keepinems that Iant to
[4:46:06] makeure we geto the
[4:46:10] recoGenerallwhen we
[4:46:11] hearg, we do no back
[4:46:12] throh through the
[4:46:16] presenons ain, but t
[4:46:18] board dire staff
[4:46:19] essentiastart ov since
[4:46:21] is me like a rring. Then
[4:46:22] a contuance. Buty of
[4:46:24] thatat that mes is that
[4:46:27] applicant ll get ano
[4:46:28] opporty to puto the
[4:46:29] re the factsIt feels
[4:46:32] imrtant to iase. Hey'll
[4:46:34] be oortunity fhe puic
[4:46:35] to mcommentshin the
[4:46:36] saules that generally
[4:46:40] ply for thtypes oof
[4:46:41] hearingsi also wan have
[4:46:41] Dagoes come are my
[4:46:45] assiant county attney and
[4:46:46] to rd into theord the
[4:46:49] strd of revi for fo
[4:46:50] pd site approvIt's
[4:46:51] difft from zong. We
[4:46:55] don't back and the
[4:46:56] zoningnalysis. Tis just
[4:46:56] tolement theite. Plans
[4:46:57] uld like tve that ple
[4:46:59] in the recd. MISTER R
[4:47:00] wiour cordance s can
[4:47:01] haveclean hereAnd thank
[4:47:02] yo There's njection from
[4:47:04] the bod. You're recognized
[4:47:05] r.
[4:47:05] >> ButDavid was ose,
[4:47:09] Assistt Countyorney. He
[4:47:10] before theoard is
[4:47:11] approvr denial. E final
[4:47:14] detas site Thi not a
[4:47:14] rehearing the pri ring
[4:47:18] or gen pd ccept plant
[4:47:18] the apicant. The the
[4:47:20] initburden of owing that
[4:47:20] e plan complies wthe
[4:47:21] compreive plan Acal Burt
[4:47:24] plicable rulations athe
[4:47:25] requirents and tpproved
[4:47:27] PDditions anconcep
[4:47:28] ant. The boarmay consid
[4:47:31] the idence relt to thos
[4:47:31] criteria aay resoe
[4:47:35] factual colex in theord.
[4:47:37] If thplicant sasfies the
[4:47:39] applicablecreria, the board
[4:47:39] many the pla only upon
[4:47:42] mpetent ansubstaial
[4:47:43] evidencedentifyingcific
[4:47:46] unmeiteria. The b MAY
[4:47:47] deny the pla based
[4:47:49] sole on gelized
[4:47:50] oppoon or ren
[4:47:51] disagreeme with the
[4:47:53] priously appd pd
[4:47:55] enement and MAY no
[4:47:56] materily amendin. Then
[4:47:56] tiwent throu the final
[4:47:59] tails sitepl review. An
[4:47:59] oposed modication mu
[4:48:02] proceed r the code r
[4:48:02] or minodificatioprocess
[4:48:03] is aestablishmof the
[4:48:09] co code. Tha you.
[4:48:12] >> Wstand readister
[4:48:12] chaiswers. Manquestions.
[4:48:13] Got a lotsff over th
[4:48:14] transo the last nth or
[4:48:14] so we're avaable to
[4:48:15] answ those quens. And
[4:48:16] thposing to. We'll ha
[4:48:18] some answer you. Andf
[4:48:19] we don't, 'll try tofigure
[4:48:20] best way toaddress
[4:48:22] thquestions.Hank Thank
[4:48:23] u, sir. Anquestions
[4:48:25] staff befoove on to e
[4:48:26] applicankay. The a
[4:48:31] applicant n please. U're
[4:48:37] cognized, I just took
[4:48:37] MR. Vid,
[4:48:38] >> Com Deutsch: ad some
[4:48:38] dision on th maybe Tom
[4:48:41] n help me on this. This
[4:48:44] is restorn. The proct is
[4:48:49] part oBut twe were to,
[4:48:51] as I recalthe lasti
[4:48:53] talked abo that there
[4:48:53] thing thatded to be
[4:48:57] ored. Use there sn't
[4:49:01] a probm. Thsoil being
[4:49:06] ntaminated that corrt?
[4:49:07] MR. Chairew minutes
[4:49:08] me. Countyttorney wh
[4:49:09] would recoend sirs twe
[4:49:11] give the applicant rtunity
[4:49:13] toaddress yourstions. If
[4:49:14] u have queions for,
[4:49:14] they wil the best es to
[4:49:17] answerthosestions. A if
[4:49:20] not, wn have staff to
[4:49:20] justt to was tre a
[4:49:27] traffistudy? Youd?
[4:49:27] >> Ywe do havene of the
[4:49:28] trfic study. Many
[4:49:30] vehi per day dithey
[4:49:32] identi around a mber that
[4:49:36] great thinbecause rt
[4:49:37] of theson I'm is nt
[4:49:40] out thte. And I e
[4:49:45] Burma, r less you ry
[4:49:45] have to.Ou don't wto
[4:49:49] drive a, Road we dropped
[4:49:50] e speed lit there bee
[4:49:53] who are erned th safety?
[4:49:53] Think the eed limit
[4:49:59] 45. I s doing 50o 55 and
[4:49:59] 's used tr really bl
[4:50:03] me off theoad. If he's gog
[4:50:08] to be a ng operati. It's
[4:50:09] a ght. We dohave the
[4:50:09] fic study ere. Just
[4:50:11] look at. Bthe tropi,
[4:50:14] those in record, wh's
[4:50:14] that? The trc studies d
[4:50:15] they're OKthat's why
[4:50:17] rning, howy trucks per
[4:50:18] hour, because there's a
[4:50:22] ning opera. The es for
[4:50:26] me y could have 8, or 10
[4:50:28] ks an houroing love
[4:50:28] the, pullingand out of
[4:50:34] at site. Nto the 9,,
[4:50:34] we can tonht because
[4:50:35] traffic just conceed
[4:50:36] about puic safety use
[4:50:38] that'sou know, r busy
[4:50:42] all time. A to add
[4:50:45] anotr 100 truin and
[4:50:46] might be aety issue.
[4:50:47] Don't ow if thatnvolved
[4:50:52] heor
[4:50:53] >>r. Sheriffthink the
[4:50:54] thing y would llow
[4:50:56] the icant to aress it
[4:50:57] u raise thestions. I
[4:50:58] think l they havsome
[4:50:58] ents to th effect. Y
[4:50:59] can also ataff to trfic
[4:51:01] engineerin back. You
[4:51:02] any specific qions on
[4:51:07] trc that he'here dress
[4:51:07] that.
[4:51:08] Ut I wouldecommend t
[4:51:09] we let it rom as we n
[4:51:10] check ave to go.Isten to
[4:51:10] th. Thank yout maybe w
[4:51:15] n check onhe number how
[4:51:15] marucks per ur would b
[4:51:18] and out oat prty.
[4:51:19] And how many hrs a y
[4:51:21] because usuly that I
[4:51:21] mining otion, thers a
[4:51:23] lot of tffic. All righ
[4:51:27] Thank Thanu, sir.
[4:51:27] >>kay. The tpplicant I
[4:51:34] w recogniz to presen
[4:51:35] There's a out will srt
[4:51:37] when youtart talkii'll
[4:51:42] stt. Well, hdone have
[4:51:43] problem. Rtson, big law.
[4:51:43] I haveeen sworn irst and
[4:51:45] most. We aept shower
[4:51:49] xpert for this heari
[4:51:50] I'd like tart by ma
[4:51:51] sure at we all call why
[4:51:57] wee here. E's a MAY 9th
[4:51:58] 2026 mandum fr Marion
[4:51:59] Fran oning supeisor to
[4:52:02] the norable Boof County
[4:52:05] mmissionerregarding drc
[4:52:05] 25. 0, 7, final det
[4:52:09] site platerside phe on
[4:52:10] storation where inust a
[4:52:11] final details silan
[4:52:14] approvor water se pse
[4:52:15] one. The site isignated a
[4:52:18] le communiMixed use.
[4:52:19] Fil details consists of
[4:52:22] clring approxately 293
[4:52:23] or minus res of Cit
[4:52:25] Grove in rtoring
[4:52:27] proximatel63.3 7 acres to
[4:52:27] depth of 1feet. E
[4:52:31] excavatiill be backld
[4:52:33] and mpacted back to existg
[4:52:34] grade plusr-2eet. T
[4:52:35] area will gre open spac
[4:52:38] d restoredith severa
[4:52:40] erent natural getative
[4:52:41] communs and is csistent
[4:52:42] withhe county'
[4:52:44] compreheive plan a
[4:52:45] existingPDditions. T
[4:52:47] memo es on thathe final
[4:52:48] Sipeinal detaiite plan
[4:52:50] lies with alconditions
[4:52:51] well as b in complice
[4:52:54] with the final oved
[4:52:56] concplan. D the fina
[4:52:56] deils site phas been
[4:52:57] oved throu the site
[4:52:59] review pss. Psal will
[4:53:01] create anyncurrency
[4:53:02] ises. And baon
[4:53:04] analysis cusion set forth
[4:53:05] hein in aff's profsional
[4:53:08] opinn, the applicion is
[4:53:08] gerally sistent wi
[4:53:10] Charlotte unty's
[4:53:11] compreive plan. Charlotte
[4:53:12] unty's code ows and
[4:53:15] dinances a other
[4:53:17] applic guideline This is
[4:53:22] mply a proct ect where
[4:53:23] waste was ought in dg
[4:53:25] the aftethe Hurcanes.
[4:53:26] Land wasas tu into
[4:53:32] mulcThat was turned
[4:53:33] into cpost. The will be
[4:53:34] excavated remove th
[4:53:37] isting soid some shell
[4:53:38] and replacith the coost
[4:53:38] mixed wi sand that
[4:53:42] removed. I thyou,
[4:53:42] Commissi Constanceor
[4:53:43] requesti traipt of th
[4:53:44] iginal hearbecause I s
[4:53:46] not the atrney at th
[4:53:47] original hring, t there
[4:53:49] walot of talk duri our
[4:53:53] previo hearing inay, how
[4:53:54] board wasled being told
[4:53:56] at the sits contamined
[4:53:59] and need to be exced.
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[4:54:17] dointhe soil sampli. So as
[4:54:20] not contamina soil
[4:54:22] amination s never
[4:54:22] mentioned herwise. We have
[4:54:27] mel of he contentns. 4,
[4:54:29] approvalf the fidetail
[4:54:30] plan appro We haet all
[4:54:31] thnditions othe approved
[4:54:33] PDnd we ask your
[4:54:34] approv, MR. Bainl
[4:54:36] continue
[4:54:42] For the rd, Gary Ba,
[4:54:42] Southwest gine earrind I
[4:54:47] havebeen swo MR. Dunca
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[4:54:48] mem sorry. Yh. I just
[4:54:49] wa to make sthis
[4:54:53] hand This is f official
[4:54:55] rd. Yes. So th
[4:54:56] corrt. How we
[4:54:56] Commissiononstance, u're
[4:54:58] in the. Thank yoo I
[4:54:59] don't have a lem with t
[4:55:03] applicant d their rits. I
[4:55:04] guess problem iat this
[4:55:05] telephone ok was jusnded
[4:55:06] to t's absoluty no way
[4:55:10] th I caat I can lk
[4:55:10] ugh this, ng on and
[4:55:14] coume it. And so there's
[4:55:15] way that public had
[4:55:16] cess to th prior to
[4:55:17] meeting foem to be ae to
[4:55:20] reew it, to comments on
[4:55:21] it. Sohis puts us in a v
[4:55:24] difficult poon cause all
[4:55:25] handou, all all s that
[4:55:29] wee supposedo be.
[4:55:29] >> Com Constanceat are
[4:55:30] sued to dispyed in
[4:55:31] look at are sued to part
[4:55:31] the electnic recordor
[4:55:36] to the meeti. So I havck
[4:55:37] to t I don't kw if I
[4:55:38] wanto have throut or
[4:55:38] fro suggest at we have
[4:55:40] re here bse the pubc
[4:55:48] isitled to riew this.
[4:55:52] It's jusa summer bally
[4:55:52] fore.
[4:55:53] >> o I'm just st to sum
[4:55:54] itThat's all is pd
[4:55:58] coions.
[4:55:58] Comm. Tru: Commissi
[4:55:59] Truex. Y I was jusgoing
[4:56:01] say ifou look at I the
[4:56:01] Cayou'll note. It talk
[4:56:05] about all pd conditithat
[4:56:05] we ady have th
[4:56:06] informatioon. You hao
[4:56:08] more discuson. Just
[4:56:09] organized, just orge
[4:56:10] and laid. So it's
[4:56:11] differenformation.Nd
[4:56:11] what's aually avaie just
[4:56:15] lat more rea correct?
[4:56:16] Food riew Foremaeah.
[4:56:17] Wentthroh the firsuple
[4:56:18] of tabs and itust appear
[4:56:22] w they forded what w
[4:56:23] alrey have jusr easy
[4:56:23] tation, I gus to get t
[4:56:27] . If you wto look up
[4:56:28] eah, it's 's basical
[4:56:29] freeze in in this
[4:56:31] ing. If thcondition
[4:56:32] ought up, u have thect
[4:56:33] languaf that contion and
[4:56:35] thresponse iit's to ake
[4:56:36] the heing easier you
[4:56:42] guys you haveestions.
[4:56:43] >>an just yoill have t
[4:56:44] floor? So that's thcase,
[4:56:47] agaith wasnrepared
[4:56:48] today. Whyn't y includ
[4:56:50] is and hanthis over
[4:56:51] aff and hathemut a
[4:56:52] digita online? Use
[4:56:56] it, yoow, understand
[4:56:57] just doe't really ted
[4:56:58] when I going put part y
[4:56:59] prestation andn
[4:57:01] presenta became wao
[4:57:02] long onltitled to to
[4:57:07] through erything. The pd
[4:57:08] condions. I juon't h
[4:57:09] the time Iet that. Yhat.
[4:57:11] So It wanted to organ
[4:57:12] whate submitd for. Dr
[4:57:13] stl hasn't stted to
[4:57:14] Could theyot have suted
[4:57:15] this tbe added aan
[4:57:18] attachme to this im? I
[4:57:19] mean, just camewith
[4:57:23] lasteek like, oh,
[4:57:23] coissioners ng up.
[4:57:24] Nu one pointwell, taken
[4:57:25] on tnsparency.Hink
[4:57:29] anytwere handomething
[4:57:29] public's eitled to s
[4:57:33] what we'ven handed in
[4:57:34] nce. So ye, to in th
[4:57:35] ture will loaded upn
[4:57:36] our websito a digital
[4:57:37] at just toe another
[4:57:40] exbit. So we're cered.
[4:57:41] >> Com Tiseo: Andon't
[4:57:42] thin a have toave the
[4:57:42] attoey way intur other
[4:57:44] t. Mmissionerstance,
[4:57:45] I k of an applicant,ts
[4:57:46] to subsomething for t
[4:57:48] public recd. If we cdeny
[4:57:49] at, I thinthey're ened
[4:57:53] to subfor public recd.
[4:57:54] >> You'rtalking to
[4:57:55] county aney. We th
[4:57:56] arings thawe had gelly
[4:57:59] peopleowed to submi
[4:58:00] domentation.Ve taken
[4:58:01] sel documentas we've
[4:58:02] be here today. Sit's that
[4:58:03] is gener the that'MISTER
[4:58:08] Air. So I I think at the
[4:58:09] apant, if it part of h
[4:58:10] case ichf, he's ty
[4:58:11] he's aed to prest this
[4:58:15] as pt of his ence.
[4:58:16] >>m. Tiseo: d to your
[4:58:17] pot, I thinkay we've h
[4:58:19] at least 2r 3 outs that
[4:58:20] trying to through I
[4:58:21] e middle oe meeting at
[4:58:24] the publ doesn't h But
[4:58:25] do. Thist happens be
[4:58:26] able Mr.Hairman yopoint
[4:58:27] don't lookListenand
[4:58:28] need to back ame point.
[4:58:32] Ll look athem. But
[4:58:33] >> it ke every o thing.
[4:58:33] I the day ofts pretty
[4:58:35] ha to go thr it yet. But
[4:58:35] didn't undstand how as
[4:58:37] organi just wanto bring
[4:58:38] it up. Okahe applica's
[4:58:42] recogniz continualrt
[4:58:43] ur time.
[4:58:43] >>omm. Const: Good
[4:58:44] afoon. Commiioners jus
[4:58:45] nt clarifyouple thin.
[4:58:46] The slpresentati I had
[4:58:46] to f a couple lides that
[4:58:49] ey out of r same
[4:58:50] hts littleit differe
[4:58:54] Just like 3 ports ls.
[4:58:54] Thank for givings this
[4:58:55] oppounity to cback and
[4:58:57] ent the prect e
[4:58:59] detail th this it
[4:58:59] orinally wascheduled.
[4:59:00] Appeared oyour conse
[4:59:02] agenda, quite frkly. I
[4:59:03] wasn prepared give a full
[4:59:04] presention cause I di't
[4:59:07] think onwas cessary.
[4:59:08] Loing back. Tually gla
[4:59:09] 're here bse it gavee
[4:59:11] the opportity to go ba.
[4:59:14] Watch the cc hearingm 3
[4:59:14] yeago reviewestimony a
[4:59:17] really ink about at was
[4:59:17] the ggest misustanding
[4:59:20] ounding thproject.
[4:59:20] Before Iin, I'd li to
[4:59:23] clear upone pointe never
[4:59:24] reesented thhe soles o
[4:59:26] is propertwere
[4:59:27] ntaminateddurihe
[4:59:28] plannind zoning aring a
[4:59:30] concned citizen asere
[4:59:30] property mht contain
[4:59:34] ntaminatedls. Rather
[4:59:35] debate thissue. We
[4:59:38] aged to have sole
[4:59:39] teed. So we ly tain
[4:59:41] DaviBrown, hrologists
[4:59:41] torite specitions for
[4:59:42] ing the sos from for
[4:59:45] andoned Cius pros. A
[4:59:46] that is acly help pd
[4:59:48] ndition. Jame about.
[4:59:49] Today. We done exacy
[4:59:50] what we prom. The testg
[4:59:54] has een comple Th
[4:59:54] ports haven submitte
[4:59:56] d incln is exact at
[4:59:56] we expd. The soi are not
[5:00:00] coaminated. But we he
[5:00:02] consistent said ng the
[5:00:04] hearg waat the prorty
[5:00:04] has opered as commal
[5:00:07] Citrusve for deces. And
[5:00:09] lihe onutrients row
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[5:00:11] like so grows thrghout
[5:00:14] southwt Florida.Rus
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[5:00:17] in therece hurricane
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[5:00:41] aftethe concplanas
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[5:00:49] futured use desiation or
[5:00:51] CMtoemain permtly open
[5:00:52] space, wideied as an
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[5:00:56] t restore it to soin
[5:00:59] that pdea long-term
[5:01:00] ennmtal benefit? The
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