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Okay, Mr. Mick, I'm ready. Okay, let's restart. You want to take a role? Are you ready? No, I will

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keep a role. West, Mick, Granger, Jones, McGeele, and Andrews. We have a quorum.

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Did

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we send out minutes? I mean electronically at a time?

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Yes. Did he have to make it in a minute?

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Oh yeah.

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What you guys thought was there any corrections that need to be made?

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I thought they were fine. I don't know what this is.

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Except it is written.

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Okay. Motion to do it. Except it is.

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That's the September 10th.

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That was a special meeting we had to review

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the Brownfield project for the former

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We're going to have a review of those as well in the air, I get your question in the meeting, I think that we've proved.

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We've been elected.

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Second.

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Second.

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All those in favor.

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I can say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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So we're down to number four, Tom.

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That's where you've done it.

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Sure.

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Well, simply the reason for this meeting is that we have to make our annual disbursement for

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reimbursement costs for two projects, two Brownfield projects in the city.

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One being the former Shaboykin Village Marina,

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which was originally

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Mariners Village project.

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That

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project is at its end with this disbursement of $1,500 and $6.00.

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We'll meet their re-inversible costs of $149,400.

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So it's William Village, Marina.

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Basically, that project is now ended with this last disbursement of $1,500 and $6.00.

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We also have the capabilities of capturing those same tax dollars for the next five years.

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So what happens with that is we'll put that into our own City of Shabuigan Brownfield Reservant

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Authority account. This year it's about $5,540.93 and then calculating over the next four years

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there's just going to be about $7,000 a year.

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So we're going to accumulate about,

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just roughly over $33,000, but I'll go into a local account.

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And those monies can be used for a brown field project,

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globally.

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Yeah.

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It's something we can initiate proactively.

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No, this board can initiate it.

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I mean, it's up to them.

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You just have to abide by the state statute.

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But you can't, this work can basically initiate their own project and spend those monies on the project without state approval.

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Yeah, eligible projects.

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Eligible projects, yeah.

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No, we're looking at a long tail period to move the second one there.

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We are, yeah.

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I couldn't have money to go towards that.

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I'm not saying I wanted to, but my first answer would be no,

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but maybe it's a possibility.

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I have not investigated that too.

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So it's

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been synthesized or established through the plan.

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Yeah, through that particular plan.

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Because there are.

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And after this period, what's the balance of that balance?

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After the credit union, oh, it's

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roughly almost $400,000. I can get you that exact amount

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about it and really calculate it open. It's going to take a

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long time. It's never again. It was really intended to get paid

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back in about 12 years.

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But we didn't take it to the DDA for the

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mediated four-go their capture so by not doing that

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It's gonna take almost 23 years

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To pay it back, but

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Mac McClellan is looking at that max max does a lot of brownfield projects throughout the state and

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He's done a lot a lot of projects for us and

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They're not they're not disappointed I guess I know as long as they know they're gonna get their money back that were

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three reversible costs it is about they're getting about 50% less than any

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normally would they're in their tax bill is about 50,000 a year so it's you

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know 17,000 517 is getting reimbursed so it's 30% yeah

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yeah

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that's yeah

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That puts the negative, that they spark a lot, that they could be hiring, wouldn't they know?

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Sure.

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They did get some federal income tax credits, state income tax credits along with that, so that helped them.

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It would become easy to find out the answer to that question, but whether that money could be appropriate for existing projects as opposed to the new ones come out.

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I think that would be worth what I'm known.

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Just somebody's going to ask a question at some time.

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Sure.

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That's a good question to ask.

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Yeah, I talked to Matt McCleone last week, I didn't ask him that question, but I'll ask

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him.

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You know what you're talking about?

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Part of the question.

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And I found out that reporting was that amount of violence, I'd be asking that question right

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away.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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We're going to be distributed to us.

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Yeah, that's a good question today. I'll ask Mac that so

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we need two motions. Yeah, I don't remember four of the

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four

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The marriage village project now. It's a boy. You village Marina. We had a motion to do this first

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1,500 of six cents

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I'll take a I'll take a rope. I'll take a roll call, but I'll leave it

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That's not the second one we definitely should take a roll call, but we'll do both.

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Mick?

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Yes.

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Jones?

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Yes.

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The meal?

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Yes.

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An Andrews?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So that's approved.

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Item number five is the consideration of the disbursement of funds for the Straits Area Federal

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Credit Union.

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Those funds are 17,517 dollars on 57 cents.

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On the back page, where it shows those calculated dispersions, it shows a negative 122.25

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Bridget Brown, our treasurer, has since corrected that.

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She paid a bill out of this brownfield account that wasn't full of brownfield dollars,

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so we're making an adjustment on that.

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So the

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balance is $24,558.56 in these three figures that are in handwritten and add up to that.

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So we'll have, at the end of the disbursement of $17,517.57, we will have $5,540.93 in the account.

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Yes, since we started reimbursing it, it

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goes up slightly because of the rate of inflation

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so the tax level value goes up for rate of inflation so they get, they're incrementally

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going to get a little more each year but you know two to three percent is typically the

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rate of inflation.

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We don't get as far as like the new projects that those those dollars will come in at tax

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element and like at the end of March when we when we settled with the county the county

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pressure will calculate the tax element and then the kind of

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pressure disperses that to the city, goes into the account.

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We're also going to have to manage,

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at least the city

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treasurer will have to manage a brown field project for

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efficient motors.

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They went through a project that's basically between the

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property owner and what is now the EGLE was the DQ, the

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the Department of Environment, great lakes and energy.

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But this Brownfield Board doesn't have to approve that,

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but it still goes through the city issue

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of working, any disbursements.

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And he got, it was just awarded.

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He got $249,000 to demo three buildings,

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and there's some contamination on the former Duffinny

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property, which was a gas station at one time.

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I don't know who the owner was, but it was Steve Sinoqua one time.

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It was Dave Sinoqua last.

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That's right.

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He was quite the mechanic Dave Bowers.

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So what's the state of the state's fund?

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I mean is there plenty there to reimburse them?

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for that project?

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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They still, they still budget and send us high monies

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for local projects.

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There is no money left in the super fund,

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the so-called super fund for the federal government,

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EPA fund, that dried up long ago.

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You

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know, it came from the intermediate.

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They stopped asking for this new stuff

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with the super fund ran out of money.

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It was funny out of that work.

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Yeah.

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So

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we need the motion for the streets area for the credit union to disperse, $17,057.57.

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Disperse, $17,000 plus dollars as recommended.

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Roll call vote.

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Mick?

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Yes.

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Jones?

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Yes.

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McNeil?

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Yes.

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Andrews.

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Motion carries.

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I wish I

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would have one statement to see its upper standards and do a little bit of money in your perhaps we should have a discussion at some point about policy as to if somebody approached and was wanting to address that money what we would consider and what we wouldn't.

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So it's a good point, because I don't know if there would be an application process

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that would come through this board or this board would just simply look at the merits of

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the project in our own decisions if there's any policy guidance.

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There's nothing in place.

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That's another good conversation to have with Mac McClellan. See it, yeah. See it.

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Yes, absolutely. Good point.

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Yeah, anyone if you get two good projects? You know, I mean, how do you make any termination?

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Did you split the monies? Did you go with one? Or, yeah, those are all good questions.

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Yeah.

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For Mac and, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Somebody else must have considered that.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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Right here.

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Like to think we had an original thought that probably not.

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Yeah.

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Is

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there anything else I have?

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I have nothing else.

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And I don't have my knowledge, anything pending at this point for new ground field projects.

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But that doesn't mean something's going to happen.

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Not going to happen here soon.

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We've got a lot of people.

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We've got Kevin Schaefer who bought the building on the corner.

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That building will probably qualify for Brownfield incentives.

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But he has not applied yet.

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The big building?

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Yeah, the former Chinese buffet, the Chinese buffet.

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Yeah.

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Round of the corner.

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The horse.

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Yeah, there's some there's a couple of units that were renovated. Unfortunately, they didn't

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get permits to do the electrical upstairs so they're not up to code so they got to redo all the

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electrical and some of the some of the sky wall that all can carpet up there. Nobody's ever lived up

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There's two units that are really in pretty good condition,

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but they couldn't get an occupies occupancy

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from it, because.

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Mr. Chairman?

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Yeah.

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A couple of things, you know my,

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I'm just,

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just for the point now, the $7,000 per year

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times, the $4,000 per year time was like 28 grand.

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Can you, is it possible to leverage that

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as to 1.8 or something does come up

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where we need a large amount of money

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that they can go to the bank and borrow against that

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7 gram that's a guarantee coming in,

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a guarantee income?

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It is, well it isn't us.

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So it's a bit of a guarantee?

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Knowing some of that comes from something.

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If everything falls into place, they can make it 28,

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so it's seven a year.

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I'm just throwing it out there for a, yeah.

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I cannot make it sooner.

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That's another good question to ask, but yeah, I mean,

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I mean, and typically we would, you can tap into it so to speak up all along during the process.

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But typically I think that what it's intended to do is to accumulate all of that money over five years.

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And then do a project.

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Yeah, that's something comes up that's, you know, role-mind, you know, it's going to, you know,

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good to set that option.

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It's available for that.

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Probably, you know, it makes sense if you can leverage it.

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Yeah.

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And the other thing is just observation, and I'm just, you know, I'm pretty good at time here too,

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but I've come from, I've come from Mason.

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I'm just south of Lansing.

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It's almost the same thing.

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We went through the same process.

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We lost a big corporation, and we had to rebuild too.

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So one thing that is of interest, we already said the downtown development, we have all the

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issues that, you know, the funding that comes in downtown.

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But if you just go one block from downtown, and you look at some of the conditions in

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the houses and things that are there, and we have an issue, I hate to work blank, but that's

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the reality.

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But it's blank, my definition, if a group like you guys are a brownstone entity here can

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to make the address maybe look beyond that

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because if somebody comes through this town,

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they just go out Main Street,

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they go around the streets, the community.

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And there's these people that have,

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maybe have money available for people to come at,

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and borrow that money to use that money

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to fix up the community outside of the city.

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Somehow they always get me glad to,

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you know, you always look at this.

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Hey, I want to pick my house up,

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I'm not going to have, you know, dot-town development money, you know.

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Sure.

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So, community has missed that sometimes.

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I know our time did.

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Our time missed it.

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There was no, no.

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They did the downtown, the downtown development, the Main Street came in, it's beautiful.

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You know, a really nice, operative, you know, nice place to come, busy.

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But this time there's so much more potential than our work that they have.

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But the outside, you go to the outside, when everybody, they came, and they, they had to

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officer and you know put the pressure on everybody clean enough which

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helped but some of these people don't have the finances to do it so it's just

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that you can see it we know they don't have the money so I'm just throwing that

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out there there's some type of you know food for thought you guys can think about it

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I'm trying to remember town is the problem field require a district or is it just

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covers the city's voice. It's covers the city's voice. So yeah there were an eligible

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project out there. Yeah. Take care of the flight. See I don't know if people know. I don't know if they know if anything like this exists.

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So maybe something they can get the word out and you know we're in, they weren't, you know, for the good of the community.

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So, didn't the county set up around here? They did. They did. The county has one too?

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And in earnest is one of the girls. I think, you know, you know, they were talking about the crew.

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And when the fight was going on, you heard that some of that worker banged in, but maybe

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somebody was wondering about it.

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You know, the issue of light is just skin.

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And I, you know, I haven't, I like to hear on that community a little more discuss that too,

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is that we don't necessarily, I mean, you know, there's a lot of factors involved.

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I mentioned that we always used a retired police officer, for example.

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Well, a police officer is, you know, they do have a mentality that they're going to enforce the law.

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Some of these people they need more than have the law in force, they need some assistance.

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Yeah.

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And so I think if this chief is going to look at, you know, hiring somebody or we're going to hire somebody as a counsel or whatever it might be or how we're going to address it,

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Just to have somebody with a different background or leave it open to me to social work or something like that

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Because that's somebody going to address the issue and talk to the person and say, hey, what is I'll come here housefall about, you know

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What's the deal here?

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You know, sometimes I say, well, my wife might be dying or just saying, well, whatever the issue might be, it may be deeper than it doesn't

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It doesn't negate the fact that they're housefalling and they shouldn't take it up

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But instead of giving them a penalty enough to bad and say, how can we work with an organization?

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you guys are something to maybe assist in that or help in the process, instead of, you know,

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giving them the citation and taking the court and going to the house, you know. So just so, you know,

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things I'm thinking, you know, it's interesting, you know, what's happening here. So, when you use

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the imagine ability on the corner, you know, the fun he goes right there, well, that's downtown,

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you know, I'm just going, I guess downtown development. No, I'm a, you know, neighborhood guy,

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I want to get that deal with itself.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Good point.

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Mr. Second.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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No second.

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I have no other business to deal with.

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So except the motion to adjourn.

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We are adjourned.

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Thank you very much.