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Okay. Roll call.
>> Mr. Sla

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» here.
>> Mr. Sonus

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» here.
>> Mr. Johnson

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» here.
>> Mr. Hbert

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» here.
>> Mr. Warden

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» here. Communications.
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» Okay. We're going to go right on to open
forum. Guest shall speak in an orderly

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fashion or limited remarks of five time
minutes or less. The speaker shall

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deliver their comments, concerns in a
civil tone without the use of profanity,

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personal attacks, or other disruptive
behavior which may result in the

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offender's removal from the meeting. The
speaker shall not be interrupted and

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except in a matter of urgency. Would
anybody like to speak tonight?

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» Hello. I uh took the [clears throat]
opportunity to watch the public hearing

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on the edus from
18th meeting and one thing that stood

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out is it seemed like a lot of people
blaming this board for what was going on

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and the increase
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and I would just like to emphasize and I
think one or two of you have said it

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that this is something that's mandated
from all and I think if more people paid

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attention to who we elect as officials
or representatives

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um instead of paying attention to the
people that are

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um on noon every week giving out big fat
pay checks from Albany that are your tax

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dollars that they're spending if they
paid attention to that voting for that.

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I think that that would go a long ways
and just appreciate everything you guys

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are doing as far as the edus are
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guys. I mean, you were you were dealt an
awful hand, but you're making the best

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of it. You're listening to people and
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their opinion frustration. I thank you
for that. I also want to bring up um

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the condition of a lot of the buildings
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dwindling significantly. I know we had a
point where code was lacking.

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Um, I hope that the new guy that's in
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emphasizes,
you know, the existing stuff that we've,

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you know, [clears throat] that that
citizens have brought up and other board

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members have brought up um, over the
years. There's properties that have been

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just, you know, continuously violation,
violation, violation, and nothing seems

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to be getting done about it. I I would
hope that we could prioritize those

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buildings and residences that have been
problem areas and get those taken care

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of as quick as possible. Thank you for
your time. Appreciate

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» Okay, we're going to move on. We're
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Uh 5.1 wastewater train wastewater
treatment plant updates. I we have

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nothing on here. Is there anything
correct?

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» Okay.
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» I I just have a question though. Uh
>> we had an email about the Wisconsin pump

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station over there.
Is that a big to-do or whatever? because

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if anything's been done about it or
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get something done or Alex and I met
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and Gleason.
She was going to reach out and send an

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email out to everybody. I don't know if
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» I didn't get today's
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» Yeah.
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the I guess the contractor is waiting
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limit to this.
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to give his thoughts and recommendations
and then uh we'll put it in front.

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» that's it.
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» All right. There will be other
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for wastewater updates. There's a few
things that we want to get into the

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project, but it was too late. I got the
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She'll have it for the next one.
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All right. Moving on. 5.2 comprehensive
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» Um, [clears throat] we have not met
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meeting. Um we will meet as a committee
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we also will have a get together with
CIERS at the end of this month.

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Uh Chris Bodec did do a media
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it but I guess he did a good job.
Uh text my gov was uh sent out and I

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guess it was successful. We had a pretty
good response for people who want to

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take advantage of the service.
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a little over 10,000 opted in.
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» Out of 11,000 that were sent out.
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» Anybody here?
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» I didn't get I didn't get it either.
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» I Spectrum didn't go to Spectrum, right?
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spectrum people that came in, but for
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if you want to be opted in. We
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because the conversation was about this
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people. And I'm
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» the phone number database from.
So, anybody that does want to be opted

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in, I mean, you can do that, you know,
manually via the 91896 or just let me

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know.
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you gotten it though? I mean
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the whole point of the the data and from
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all I I specifically have not gone on
and registered and got pre-registered

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but did it before this blast email or
text went out because I wanted to see if

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I was on it if I got it. you know how
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going to do and how effective it was
going to be and you know of the 11,000

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some odd number that went out 10,000
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» and how many of them are town residences
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wherever it is they get it you know
usually can buy it and sell it and all

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of that stuff it is town of Shenango
residents their their phone number

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» they're tied to a billing zip code.
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» Within the town. That's where this
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» Yeah. When they sent out the mass
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something that opted out. Everybody else
so far, last time I checked, was in and

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we were at 10,100
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town.
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I didn't expect this to be absolutely
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but the
if we did the other service, the list

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was zero. So, we would have had to
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sort of base.
>> Seems pretty successful to me, those

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numbers.
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» yeah the interesting thing will be the
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the response rate is on those thousand
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had 130 respond or whatever it was
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Darren Greg and Kevin to the list
everybody

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I just need to know who else on the
board or who else anybody wants

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the ability to be able to send out text
messages. I just need to know who that's

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going to be. If it's going to be all the
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» I do not want that.
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» I don't I don't think there's a need for
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» I'm not removing you, Kevin. [laughter]

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» Yeah. If there's a case where one of us
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something, I think we can add ourselves
ad hoc, but I don't think we need to be

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on it.
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to just know how or train, you know,
we'll figure that out.

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» All right. Any questions? Go ahead.
>> Uh, real briefly, uh, I guess Rene is

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going to talk about this or I going to
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Uh we finally got a response from the
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yesterday
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we're going to have to do some
investigating to see if this is going to

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be worthwhile for us because it's going
to be quite involved

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getting to
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When I I got a hold of the DEC yesterday
and I asked I said what's the process

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because I was looking for whatever the
OSC procurement document thing is that I

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had never heard of and what they told me
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approves once it goes from there then
the comproller office it goes to them

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they approve and then like money gets
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So I was I was trying to figure out
going through the documents required for

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the administration of it and I was
talking to Dave and I'm going I know

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this much about grants but I'm looking
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and
this is just my opinion and since I

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don't know if anybody does know please
stop me from being wrong or something.

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When I look at what is the climate smart
grant used for, it's for stuff that

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you're doing in doing stuff like nails
and boards and stuff like that. The

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comprehensive plan is basically one big
vision statement more or less

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oversimplified.
So I'm trying figure out just from

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looking at what is required and what we
have to do

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is that a thing that falls
category of stuff. And I don't know

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enough to know if that's true, false, or
indifferent. And when I was I was

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talking to Kevin, I was talking to Dave
about having somebody at the town with

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either the expertise and the time to
administer the involved stuff that is

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required.
And from talking to Dave, just wanted to

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bring that up going, where do we fall
and where should we look? I mean, I can

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talk to the comprehensive plan when we
have our meeting on the 15th,

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but I'm just trying to get a basic idea
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background or something that I might be
missing.

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Well, since we just got the information
yesterday, I think we need time to go

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through it and just kind of see what is
in it, you know, and so

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» yeah, I mean, I was looking at the
quarterly reports that are required, all

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of the uh the different metrics along
the way, and these look like stuff that

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you actually do like soil stuff and HVAC
stuff and minority and, you know,

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disabilities and everything else.
And quite honestly, when I'm looking at

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it, I was trying to figure out how that
fits in with a comprehensive plan

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how do how do you want to handle it as a
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» I'd say let's wait till next meeting to
find out if we can get more. maybe talk

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to other towns who have gotten these
grants to

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find out if they were how they how they
did how they did.

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» Yeah, that would be my first question is
how other towns that have received this

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who managed that or
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» So the the village of Aigo and I think
the town of Ulyses both got this grant

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um in some fashion. Ulyses used it for
their comprehensive plan. So, I'm fairly

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and I know when the grant application
was submitted, it was it should have

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been identified that it was going to be
for purposes of comprehensive planning.

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» Could you get me their
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contact information. I was say I don't
have any of the actual application

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materials that we sent in, but I'm
assuming we would have identified for

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comp plan purposes.
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said, well, they got it, so let's try
our shot at it. So,

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» Jean, we had a brief discussion on this
as a board prior um because I had some

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similar concerns and I thought that when
the grant application went in on our

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behalf, it was for the comprehensive
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» That
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» That's the way that I remember the
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» Right. And then I remember further
discussion on that when we talked about

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the MWBE requirements
that was part of the discussion with

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collers.
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those those um the MBE WBE
requirements are goals.

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» Yes. And there's quite a few places
within the process of the comprehensive

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plan process to be able to
fit those those activities that meet

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those goals in
and then the due diligence if you can't

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meet them to prove the due diligence was
was done. So that was that was at the

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level that we talked about but not
specifically what activity do I I don't

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remember a conversation about that
>> but it certainly was the expectation

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that Kers knew that was part of this
program if you will or the plan

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» I do I remember that because they also
said that they had people they had

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consultants that could fulfill those
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» and that's where I remember the
conversation going.

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» Yeah. Collars did say that if we accept
the grant, they have to know to do stuff

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on their end.
>> But I agree with everything you guys are

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saying here.
But the first meeting or meeting after

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that when we first had the committee
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» they were kind of surprised that we had
the grant.

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» Yes.
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the grant. We thought that they were
going to be doing work work for us or

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working towards it already. They go, oh,
you got the grant. So, so David

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surprised I think I think part of the
issue with the consultant is that the

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town's never even accepted the grant and
so and Kier started the work before the

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grant had even been awarded
>> and they were never told okay go retain

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stuff like so the problem you guys are
going to run into is we keep not

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accepting the grant they're going to
finish their work and none of it's going

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to be reimburseable anyway.
>> Yeah. And that's when I talked to DEEC,

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I'm going, do I get uh okay, y'all
approved it and they said, you know,

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pretty much it's an [snorts]
if DEC approves it, then OSC is probably

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going to go, okay, that works for us. I
haven't received anything from OSC, I

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don't know if that's the normal process.
It did not was not able to get a hold of

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OSC to ask them that particular
question. So, it's still okay. DEEC said

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yes. They're pretty confident that means
OSC is going to, but they can't speak

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for OSC obviously. So, and then after
that it's set up a contract thing and

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SFS and all of that.
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» I don't want to blur the the
conversation, but in past experience

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with grants, the questions that you're
asking have been presented to the town

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board by the person or the entity that
has prepared the grant and summarized

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those activities and gave us the
deadlines and the requirements for that.

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you could give me a thousand pages of
that grant and unless I've got all the

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supporting documentation that went
behind it

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» and then go through it and actually do
what I need to prepare the grant to

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understand it. I don't think that that's
what board needs. I think the town board

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needs from the from the
from the person or the group that

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actually wrote the grant and submitted
it to give us what we've got to do and

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when we've got to do it by
>> agree do we did Alex

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» so so we went through this Alex we asked
Alex to do this

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» and Alex said it was he would apply for
it but he wasn't going to do anything

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else after that. So where do we go from
here? I know what you're asking for. I'm

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not against what you're asking for, but
where you I think the last meeting we

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talked about putting it on the ordinance
office to try to figure out,

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» right? And we had this much to do with
it. So, I'm just trying to get to the

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bottom, find out what I have to do.
>> What do you want to do?

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» Wasn't Alex talking to someone at like
Cornell Cooperative Extension or

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something about this or am I making that
up?

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» No, there was another lady
southern tier or something or there were

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deals with this with other counties. And
did they get Alex something back? And I

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just don't remember seeing the email.

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» So what is the harm of accepting the
grant and presenting this to Kers to say

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that we have the grant
and we need

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to try to meet the goals or at least
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So, I know one of the items that Alex
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long-term committee that has to be
established and that has like annual

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maybe quarterly uh reporting.
>> There are reports so that are due

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quarterly that I saw.
>> So, so you you'd be committing to doing

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you know those types of things.
>> What's the what's the term on that

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committee?
>> That I don't know.

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» Is it three years, five years? The grant
is good until 2031.

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We have from like whenever we accept it
to 2031 to do all of the things

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necessary for that. So I would imagine
we have that far.

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» Yeah. I was just
>> the committee doesn't exist. So we'd

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have to create the committee and and
then establish those positions and

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terms.
>> I understand that. And but how long does

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that committee exist
>> post

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» for the post receiving
>> for the life of our commitment to the

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grant to the to the not to the grant but
to the program?

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» Okay. And the program you believe is
2031.

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» Yes.
>> Okay.

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So
we can talk to Kers on the 28th

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» or
tomorrow. Well,

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» Kevin, I I I mean, I I think the
discussion goes, are we willing to put

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such a committee together and keep it
intact doing quarterly reports for the

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next five years or four years, whatever,
>> who who's going to be the committee?

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» Well, that's just it. I think that's how
we make that suggestion because there's

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not enough employees in the town.
There's definitely not. I agree.

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» It's just a take away from something
else.

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» So, are we agreeing that this grant is
being used just to produce a

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comprehensive plan?
>> Well, I believe that's what the intent

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was when the grant was written.
>> Okay.

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» That was my understanding.
I'm just wondering how difficult or

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complex that would be to have a a
committee

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like the way I got it. Some of the
information she was reading off there is

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like a lot of these plans are for
they're actually doing physical things.

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» No, I and I agree. I read that the same
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» things. I I read the program the same
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» but when we applied for it, our specific
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Now, I don't know whether or not it
needs to that that's why I wanted to

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have the discussion regarding the
committee. Is it a committee of one? Is

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it a committee of three? A committee of
five? And what do the quarterly reports

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entail?
>> Looking just very briefly looking at

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some of the metrics are talking about it
looks like it's going to take some time,

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but personnel, manpower, manh hours that
I don't know if we have that current

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existing in the town.
>> Probably not.

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I mean guys, I I I think that's where
the discussion needs to go is to is

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whether or not we're committed to a a
committee of whomever.

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Do you want to talk to one of the other
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» I will do that.
>> Bring that information back to the board

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and
>> I mean, if if you're all right with

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doing it, I don't want to.
>> No, I'm good.

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» Okay. Thank you, Renee. I appreciate
that. Thank you.

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» Thank you.
>> And you're welcome. You get me that.

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Thank you.

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» All right, we're done with that. Uh 5.3.
Are you good with

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» I'm done.
>> Okay. 5.3. Hometown Heroes.

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» Sorry for missing the last meeting.
>> Um Okay. Hometown Heroes. This is where

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we're at. Um,
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after driving around the town, the
original plan that I thought of or or

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talked to the other municipalities about
of renting a scissor lift and putting

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them up ourselves and figuring that out
to save money is really not possible.

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Whether we were to do this on River Road
or on Front Street, ultimately

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that's just not a viable option. The
pole pole setback is too much. the

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position of the pole and the sidewalk or
the main road. Like, I think it would

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just be a nightmare. And once again,
we're talking about limited staffing and

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how many employees do we have to take
them off of one task to have them do

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another. Um,

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» what did we use to put those up, Greg?

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employees.
>> Was it a bucket list?

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» Okay.
>> So, so ultimately that's what I did was

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I called a handful of signed companies
and said very very informally without

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the specs of this ballpark, what is it
to have you come and do this? And the

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cost of a bucket truck from a signed
company is roughly 200 bucks an hour. So

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that's a driver. That's someone in the
bucket. and and that is the act of

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having them come in over a window of
time to do this kind of work. So

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ultimately this is how I did these rough
numbers for overall the program cost. So

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the cost of the banner and the bracket
to put it up is passed on to the

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individual that is sponsoring the
banner. So I'm a veteran of Afghanistan

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and Iraq. My family wants to do one for
me. they they front that cost. What we

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would be doing if we kept it at that
rate is we the town would have to put a

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budget line in essentially annually to
put the banners up and take them down.

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I'm estimating that at if we do the 50
banner increments, I'm estimating that

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at roughly $5,000 to put them up and
5,000 to put them down. take them down.

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I'm sorry. And then obviously we'd have
to figure out storing them. It could be

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significantly less than that or it could
be significantly more. I we won't know

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until we actually list what you know
this is a program we're going to do.

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We've all agreed we're going to put this
up on Front Street

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and see what the turnout looks like.

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But ultimately, we're talking about, you
know, we can of course raise these to be

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$300 a piece and then that would
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but I don't know what our turnout would
then be.

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The other thing that we're not really
certain on, and this is when I I spoke

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to one of the sign companies, was the
first one that I talked to, they gave me

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a ton of ton of information, and
ultimately I would think that we go out

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to [clears throat] like a formal bid
process and ask a handful to do a scope

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of work for us. and what the cost of
these banners would be. But the first

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one I talked to, um, the gentleman that
I spoke withly,

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he said, "I think I can get these for
cheaper, but I need to know how many you

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need." I said, "I don't know how many I
need." Um, so I don't know how we would

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get the level of interest on this
formally, unless we'd be taking people's

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money and then, hey, never mind, the
price went down. Um, but ultimately if

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they could get the banners for 100 bucks
a piece and we're actually charging them

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200, that would cover the cost of
everything and there would be no budget

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line. But we'd have to be,
I guess, willing to potentially incur

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cost if
if we wanted to sponsor this program. Or

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maybe it's year one we sponsor the
program.

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But I guess now that I'm thinking out
loud, year two, if we're putting them up

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and down, we are going to incur that
cost.

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» You don't have any indication on
interest, do you?

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» No, I wouldn't even know where to begin.
>> We had two two people reach out

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» specifically to Adam and then one day I
was in Kevin's office when someone

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stopped in to talk about it. So, I know
of two people. I guess I make three. Um,

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three,
>> four.

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» We've got four so far, Jay, to answer
your question. I I want to say it will

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be pretty heavy.

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» Yeah, I mean, we could do a brief
survey.

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The problem is it's really easy to say
yes to something and then when you have

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to come up with a check for $200, what
is the actual turnout? But

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I I don't know the interest level for
this.

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I think it's if it's something that the
board wants to go forward with, it's

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something that we need to add into
budget for next year

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because I think you have to have a
budget line for it even if you're gonna

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» Exactly.
>> Yeah.

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» Not to exceed
>> x amount of dollars.

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» You might not use that budget line. I
mean, you know, if you can some

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» Well, and that's why I say I think
ultimately the board would have to be

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willing to incur the cost. And if we
find a creative way to subsidize this,

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whether it be we get a better rate on
the actual banners by ordering them in

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bulk from somewhere. So, for example,
like just looking at the websites, on

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average, if we order over $2,000 worth
of banners, we get free shipping. In

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reality, a sign company would have a way
to subsidize that because they wouldn't

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just be ordering banners for us. they're
ordering from a supplier or a wholesale

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house for a bunch of other companies,
too. So, some of these could be a moot

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point if we put them out to bid. We just
would need to know the interest level

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and are we willing to say, "Okay, let's
pencil in a $10,000 budget line for year

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one and see
how we can creatively do this." So, I

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guess I in reality, we don't need to
make this decision today. This could be

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one of the first things we talk about
when we're talking about the general

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fund. But here, the information is in
front of you. I'm embarrassed how long

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it took to get it all. And once again,
sorry for missing last meeting, but

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» this is what it looks like without
putting the burden on Greg or Darren's

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employees. Um,
and I think there's some creative math

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that can be done here. You know, I
talked to the um county veteran

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representative about are there grants
for this right now? He didn't know of

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any, but he said he would email me if he
does.

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So, I mean, I'll continue to look for
creative ways to to figure that out, but

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so I'm all for this at at the $10,000
amount, not to exceed if we if we put

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this in the budget here in another
couple weeks for next year and then

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advertise this through the winter to be
put up in the spring. I think it would

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be a great thing. I mean, years ago,
Darren had shared with me after the last

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meeting that or two meetings ago that we
did actually do this. I wasn't aware of

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it. I mean, I've been a town resident
for 10 years. Um, I don't know what

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happened with all those banners. I don't
know how that program died.

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» We used to do the winner.
>> So, it was a variation.

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Those

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are like flags,
>> names of businesses.

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[snorts]

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the cost.

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» Some of the um the last time that we got
pricing for

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the veteran pole banners,
we we got pricing in um

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July of 24.
So that was the last time that I

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remember. So maybe there's some
conversation and some dialogue and some

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supporting docs in our minutes.
Who did that? Do you remember, Jean?

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» Um,
well, I I know I I have it because I

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know that it was information that I
forwarded on to the board at the time

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and that was um just um from victory.com
is one of the the vendors that provided

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us pricing. Um but that I'm just I'm
just saying that historically we can

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I'm listening, Jean.
>> I'm listening.

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» No, just historically is all I'm saying
is we could go back to the documentation

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and the conversation
did instead of reinventing the wheel

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because we had gone and found out how
many from the early

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like 2012
201

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frame when we had the signs up. how many
there were and from memory it was like

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35 to 40
signs that but they were that were on

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there so it wasn't a lot that we were
talking about so we could go back and

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look at th those minutes in that time
frame.

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» Yeah. I mean, if we do it on Front
Street, we could make it a variation of

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» that and veterans, you know, does a
does a does a business want a sign on

419
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Front Street as well as I mean, this
could be

420
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:04,800
dual function to get participation.
I mean, I myself when I go through a

421
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:12,880
town main street that has American flags
hanging, like I notice that um I think

422
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:17,680
it's a nice thing um to have through the
summer months when I see that there are

423
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:21,520
veterans or even businesses supporting,
you know, something along the lines of

424
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:26,240
that. Like I just I personally like the
way it makes me feel. Um, I think that

425
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:32,640
would be a nice nice thing for the town
to have at worst case scenario $10,000.

426
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:39,359
Um, but I mean that's something that we
can I can dig that up or meet with

427
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Eugene and and get that. Um, how do you
recall off the top of your head and then

428
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,560
we can kill this for now. How did were
they going to put those up or this

429
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,720
victory company was going to come and do
that?

430
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,320
» No, it was just that was procurement. It
was like $60 a sign or something like

431
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:54,880
that at that time for the size and the
pole mounting brackets and everything to

432
00:37:52,400 --> 00:38:00,079
get the the actual flag, but it was
strictly a veteran. You supplied them

433
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:04,480
with the name and the photo and I think
there was a date or date of service or

434
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,720
the branch of service that was that was
associated with it. Um the issue with

435
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:14,079
the businesses in the past that have
come up, they they helped support the

436
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:20,720
program and that's why their names were
on it because they the businesses

437
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:25,440
contributed to the to offset the town
costs for but it was strictly a town

438
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,720
manpower issue putting them up taking
them down.

439
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:33,119
» Yeah. And that's why the more and more I
looked into this, the more and more I

440
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:38,560
thought it was worth looking into
private pay options.

441
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:44,160
Well, I there just isn't as many
employees in the town as there was in

442
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:49,599
the past. Um, and
to start up and bring different

443
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:54,079
operations in and up. I mean, I I don't
see a reason to to put it on existing

444
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,280
town, you know, services.
>> Yeah, 100%.

445
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,280
» Yeah. We're not we're not carrying
liabilities.

446
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,400
» Yeah. I don't even know what the
insurance cost or if the union rules

447
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:09,560
would allow them to go up. We don't
need, you know, we don't need to buy a a

448
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,560
lull bucket truck and

449
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:18,720
but I can I can give you the as far as
that, but I I see this as a 2027 budget

450
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:23,760
issue. So, and I have no I I have no
objection to

451
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:28,079
to the to the veterans portion of the
flag.

452
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:32,720
» Absolutely. I think it'd be I think it'd
be a great idea and I I like the idea of

453
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,000
the the business,
you know, supporting it or paying, you

454
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:40,480
know, sponsoring it, basically
sponsoring maybe a section where you

455
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:44,000
have a bunch of veteran flags up just
putting money into the I mean, that's

456
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,200
something we can all work out.
>> Yeah.

457
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:51,680
» But we need to put a budget line in and
then go from there.

458
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,800
» Okay. So for now I'll do nothing until
we have that discussion and then at that

459
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:02,160
point I could reach out to a handful of
these companies and say you know

460
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:08,480
» so one of the things that I need to
municipalities cannot solicit donations.

461
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:15,359
» Okay so we don't do that part. So if if
there's a friends of organization that

462
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:20,640
would like to spend the time to go drum
up to support that and people or

463
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:25,440
businesses give money to that
organization and that organization turns

464
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:30,000
around and donates that to the town or
somebody who's not a town board member

465
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:34,079
or town employee goes and says, "Hey,
the town's starting this program up. You

466
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:40,200
should donate to it." Um that would be
okay but we cannot directly solicit

467
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,200
money from anybody.

468
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,160
Okay, understand

469
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:53,280
» Luke. Yeah, thanks for the research on
this. This is great.

470
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:58,000
» And Luke, I sent you the email that had
that link to that company

471
00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:03,200
just kind of as a reminder that you and
I can connect later.

472
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:07,599
» Perfect. Got it. Thank you.
>> Y

473
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:12,319
» All right. Thanks for that, Luke.
Moving on. 5.4 Department head probation

474
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:19,359
discussion.
Is this something that we had a Do you

475
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:24,319
want to do an executive session or
I think that's warranted. We have a full

476
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:29,280
board tonight. So, we tabled it last
meeting.

477
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,280
» So, I'll do that
>> at the end.

478
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,280
» At the end.
>> Okay.

479
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:39,520
Okay, we have department head job
description discussion.

480
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:43,359
Didn't have any backup material for
that. I saw that there were some emails

481
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:47,520
that came out today.
>> Well, I had sent I had sent that for the

482
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,119
last for last meeting for the
discussion. I didn't know why that

483
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:54,480
wasn't on the agenda.
The only thing I sent really for

484
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,680
tonight's discussion was the template.
That was just that really wasn't for

485
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:02,720
tonight's discussion either. It was just
if the process goes forward,

486
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:09,280
» right?
>> Um, so but I don't I don't know why that

487
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:12,560
» Did you send it to Jody or just the
board member?

488
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,240
» I only I I originally only sent it to
the board members.

489
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:19,880
» Okay. Then that's probably on me not
forwarding it to Jody.

490
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,760
» So that job description we should put on
the next agenda.

491
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:35,760
» Yeah. I can put I
You want that updated evaluation form on

492
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,000
there?
>> I I didn't know there was an updated

493
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,560
evaluation form.
>> I thought that's what you sent today. I

494
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,760
I didn't think it was necessarily
updated. That's the one that we had

495
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,480
before.
>> Um there there were two correspondences

496
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:55,839
that I that I sent today just for the
conversation. One was the um

497
00:42:53,440 --> 00:43:03,040
it was the template
for

498
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:10,079
the department head job description.
I resent the um

499
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:15,280
the job description responsibilities
that I had sent to the board for my

500
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:19,839
comments for the last for the la for the
last meeting. That didn't change. It was

501
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:26,400
just resent.
And then the other the other

502
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:32,079
correspondence was what we had provided
to

503
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:35,920
um to Greg with with his department
head.

504
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Uh when we had that conversation with
with Greg, it was the job job

505
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:47,760
description that we have provided you
the that was that that's what you don't

506
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:51,599
have to look. It wasn't about you. It
was just

507
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:56,079
what we had given you for the department
head job description.

508
00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:01,359
25
in 2022.

509
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:08,560
No, you you did that was when we when we
met um with the um department management

510
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,960
plan when you pro when you developed the
management plan

511
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:21,839
» no information
>> the department head

512
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:29,520
» responsibility
>> Greg this was dated back April 25

513
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:33,520
» that's what I said in 25 It
was addressed to you.

514
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,200
» No.
>> Um, it was your

515
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:42,560
» No, it was it was just a plan.
>> It was the management plan that was put

516
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:45,200
together that you had to put together.
>> Yes. Yeah.

517
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,720
» Yeah. So, we Jean distributed to the
board.

518
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,480
» He just redistributed that.
>> Redistributed. You You distributed to

519
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:57,520
2025 and then he redistributed to the
board. Specifically, what we're talking

520
00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:01,480
about tonight was the
town department heads

521
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:07,920
um
respons the responsibility of the town

522
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:12,400
department. What what responsibilities
go with the town department head? That's

523
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:15,839
the conversation.
There were there's two board members

524
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:23,040
that weren't that didn't that weren't
around in 2025 that didn't have a copy

525
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:29,359
of the responsibilities for the public
works department head list that we

526
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:36,000
provided to you. They didn't have that.
So I redistributed that to them and you

527
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:43,200
got that with the um with the management
plan correspondence and that back in

528
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,680
April. So
that

529
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:48,160
» I didn't take that as new.
>> It wasn't.

530
00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:54,160
» Yeah. I And I didn't take it that way. I
just take it that it was distributed for

531
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:58,560
Luke and I's behalf.
>> Yes.

532
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:04,319
» So you just want to the the first email
that you sent today, you want that on

533
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:09,359
for the next meeting for the department
head job description discussion.

534
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:12,000
» The department head template.
>> Yes. If

535
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:14,800
» department head template and core
responsibility of all department heads.

536
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,599
» Yes.
>> So that's backup material for

537
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:26,480
» right. But the the core responsibility
department head list that that is that

538
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:32,560
there's nothing different than what
I had sent that to the board for just

539
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,119
» Yes. But that you we were looking for
more input from the board too, right?

540
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,960
» Yeah. I was
>> Anybody else have input? get it before

541
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,680
the next meeting so we can get it on the
agenda.

542
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:45,839
» Y
>> All right.

543
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:51,240
» But I will make sure that we have at
least your stuff on there. If we get

544
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:51,240
anything else, then we will.

545
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:05,440
All right. Anything else on 5?
That was you.

546
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,839
Anything else on 5.5?
I have none.

547
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:12,440
» I have nothing.
>> All right. 5.6 secure vestibial.

548
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,960
» All right.

549
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:34,480
On this drawing here that's in front of
you,

550
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:41,680
this took the approach here. And you can
see they did the elevation views

551
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:45,280
specifically in the clerk's office.
This seemed like a far more simple

552
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:50,640
approach
in terms of the work being done in the

553
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,920
clerk's office and in the water
department.

554
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:58,160
I really like what we're doing there in
the water department. Even eliminating

555
00:47:55,599 --> 00:48:04,720
that door because I think it provides
far better use of that space and opening

556
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:09,280
it up and opening that up.
So it it achieves the the goal of

557
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:13,680
getting the two windows in the
vestibule.

558
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:18,800
And one of the the differences are is
that there's a door on each end of the

559
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:24,559
hallway to leave space to go to the
elevator. What's not on this drawing was

560
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:29,680
the discussion about securing the
supervisor's office.

561
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:36,079
And the first issue that we had there
was the discussion of providing a

562
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:42,319
restroom for the for the uh town court.
So we were looking into that but it did

563
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:49,119
not have the drawing there. But to me,
this vestibule layout makes more sense.

564
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:55,440
And at least if it's a step approach,
phase one, if you will, it certainly

565
00:48:52,319 --> 00:49:01,160
does secure the vestibule,
which is what a discussion we've had at

566
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,160
previous meetings.

567
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:13,119
So the control into the vestibule is
going from the bottom of the bottom of

568
00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:18,960
the drawing into the building. You have
the green existing doors.

569
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:24,079
You go into that vessel and that's the
secure area and you don't get buzzed

570
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:28,079
past that.
That's an interesting approach. But that

571
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:35,280
I don't think that was the intent. The
intent was that once you came past the

572
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:41,040
green doors that you were in the I guess
the the lobby itself to be able to

573
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:46,720
access the elevator for anyone needing
handicap access to go to the court. Now

574
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:52,559
again this does not secure the second
floor. What this does is it secured the

575
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:59,119
main floor down here like again as maybe
a step one, but it allowed people into

576
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:03,400
the lobby to access the clerk's window
and the DPW window.

577
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:11,280
I think that's I just think that's the
biggest divergent from

578
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:16,559
the original plan is that that vestibule
area

579
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:22,000
doesn't secure that that that area and
and and that's a that's a that's an

580
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:28,000
approach we could take and leave that
whole lobby area open, but anyone

581
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:31,200
needing handicap access to the court and
I don't know what that traffic is,

582
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:36,000
right? that they would have to be
someone would have to be either at the

583
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:41,760
clerk's office or DPW to at least be
able to identify who's in the vestibule

584
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:45,160
itself before they they granted access
to the lobby.

585
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:58,319
» The other part of this too, Gan, is that
it only pulled out a cabinet section in

586
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:04,079
the clerk's office. So, where that
existing counter and cabinets are that

587
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:08,720
you see on the drawing remains, we're
just removing that one section there.

588
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:14,319
And as you'll see on the elevation, I
think the north view, it'll show that um

589
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:21,119
that's only a half door there just to
kind of keep it, if you will, private,

590
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:27,599
right? So, if someone were to come in,
if you buzz someone in, the handicap

591
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:32,480
access would still be accessible through
the main door of the clerk's office. And

592
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:38,200
that's where that low desk counter is
identified there in what is currently

593
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:38,200
the clerk's corridor.

594
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:46,480
And obviously extending the half wall
that's at the end of the existing

595
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,839
counter because he's identified some
printers there.

596
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:06,559
So access control would be the key here
if we're securing the vestibule, right?

597
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:12,559
You'd have some access control cameras
and obviously video that would have to

598
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:15,559
be visible in both the clerk and the DPW
office.

599
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:26,040
and obviously a form of communication
so anyone in the vestibule could

600
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,040
identify themselves.

601
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:34,760
I think both offices should have video
access to that front door anyway,

602
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:41,280
whether it's part of this plan or even
>> right

603
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:46,880
» tomorrow,
>> Jean, in doing that,

604
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:52,880
I would recommend the elimination of the
two doors in the hallway for sure, but

605
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:57,680
again, as the second step,
I am still of the opinion that the

606
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:03,200
second floor needs to be secured.
>> No, I don't I don't um I the way that I

607
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:08,160
see this
without really any any modification is

608
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:12,319
that not not a lot of modification. The
the two doors that are on the left side

609
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,520
and right side of the elevator.
>> Yeah.

610
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:21,359
» I think that provides
a a

611
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:25,680
belt and suspender security for the
staff.

612
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:30,720
So I I don't have any issue with those
doors being there. They they um because

613
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:36,079
that that's employee
um passage. So it gives another level of

614
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:43,520
just somebody having to stop and
actually get through a door. Um, and if

615
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:50,559
um the new set of doors that are in red
there, if that had the push button

616
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:55,280
camera audio controls there to the clerk
in the water department, that could buzz

617
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:58,559
somebody in once they show ID, once they
say why they're here, where they're

618
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:05,280
going.
That that works for me. I I I see that

619
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:09,359
how that would secure the building and
still allow passage directly to the

620
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:13,319
elevator. That is a concern, you know,
for for the second floor.

621
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:26,640
I don't see a cost difference between
bringing those two hallway doors, the

622
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:31,520
the man doors, as opposed to, you know,
a curtain wall across that lobby. I'd be

623
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:37,400
really really surprised if this were
above our budget

624
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,400
all of this work.

625
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,960
» So the whole no one will be able to get
into the lobby just into the

626
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:48,400
» it brings them just to the vestibule
>> is the discussion we're having.

627
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:52,319
» But not even into this lobby area new
windows are right. So someone's going to

628
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:55,520
have to buzz every single person that
comes to the town into the town.

629
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:00,720
» Yes.
>> Just hire a security guard. Don't even

630
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:05,599
do this.
>> You'll never do it for less than this.

631
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:09,359
» Who are you going to pay to buzz people
in? I mean, if if people are busy doing

632
00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:12,480
their jobs because that's what they do
all day long here. They going to be able

633
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,839
to answer every single I mean, there's a
lot of people that come in and out of

634
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:22,559
town all day, especially on court days.
>> Well, who's going to do that? I'm just

635
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:27,040
I'm just going back to what the original
plan for this was was to put the

636
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:34,319
responsibility of buzzing that person
buzzing that in for the public on on the

637
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:39,760
clerk's office.
That's that was the primary function of

638
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:45,359
whose responsibility it was. If you're
if you're adding in the water department

639
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:49,280
as a person that that separates it out,
gives a backup, I don't see a huge issue

640
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:56,000
with that,
but that it was the clerk's office that

641
00:55:53,599 --> 00:56:00,559
is responsible to have that first
engagement with the public that's coming

642
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,599
in. You're going to have um keyless
entry just like we have all the other if

643
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,839
it's an employee that's coming in,
they're badging in.

644
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,359
» I don't think I don't want to speak for
Kevin, but I don't think his concern is

645
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:13,440
the employees. No, I know. I'm not
saying

646
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:17,440
» you're public, right? You're
>> I only have one part-time employee and I

647
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:21,720
have to go to lunch when he's not there.
Who's going to take care of it then?

648
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:29,359
» That's the le that's the least issue
from the complaints that I'm getting

649
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:34,240
about the clerk's office. So, I'm not
worried about that.

650
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:39,839
But potentially, but potentially to
Kevin's point, this could create a staff

651
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:45,200
issue. I mean, it's possible.
>> Yeah, it it is. But that's also the

652
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:47,839
whole conversation about security and
convenience,

653
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,920
» right? Oh, absolutely.
>> So,

654
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:56,000
» because even regardless once they get
into the lobby, if there's no one at DPW

655
00:56:53,119 --> 00:57:01,160
or the clerk's office, I can't do my
transaction anyway.

656
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,160
» That's a separate conversation.

657
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:07,119
the the point of this is to secure the
building.

658
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:10,119
» There's no scenario where the doorbell
system,

659
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:17,119
» you know, I envision a a camera with a
computer screen that there's not buttons

660
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,720
for each thing. I want to go to the
clerk's office, I press push the clerk's

661
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:24,400
office button. They're then responsible
for buzzing me in. I want to go to

662
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,240
court, I push the court button. And and
I can only imagine on court days, this

663
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:32,559
would put a huge overflow on them. But
then that way it's who are you? My

664
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:36,960
name's Luke Sla. I'm here because I have
a court date for a speeding ticket.

665
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:40,480
Okay. Yep. We can buzz you in because I
don't love the idea. I mean, I was there

666
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:45,680
the day that the .edu letters went out
and I watched him answer, I'm not

667
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:51,839
joking, 30 phone calls in the hour that
I was there. Um,

668
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,799
I don't know what the flow of traffic
is, but I I see Kevin's point and agree

669
00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:01,119
with him that I don't want any one
office responsible for this.

670
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:03,680
And it's really easy if we have multiple
officers responsible for it for them to

671
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,559
be like, "Well, I'm not going to answer
that."

672
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,640
» Well, it's also accountability. When you
have everybody responsible for it,

673
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:14,799
nobody does it. And there's no there's
no accountability of who buzzed who

674
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:18,240
when, who's getting the training. The
training for a secure vestibule is

675
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:22,960
absolutely
the most important part of putting in a

676
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,960
vest a vestibule. You can't just put in
a vestibule and then not train the

677
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:30,720
person who's responsible to the criteria
of coming in. They check their IDs. They

678
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:33,920
find out. They have a conversation when
they know who they're doing. They know

679
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:38,160
why they're there. That's all part of
the training. You can't just buzz

680
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:43,520
somebody in
and not know why you're doing it. So,

681
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:48,640
having four or five people doing it is a
is an investment in four or five people.

682
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:53,680
Having two departments do it is an
investment in two in two departments.

683
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:59,599
And when somebody's on vacation,
that's just part of what we it's part of

684
00:58:56,319 --> 00:59:02,799
what the overall plan has to account for
because you have to have people to let

685
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:08,000
people into the building.
>> So, do we hire someone for this? I I

686
00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:11,520
cannot support putting the guy here and
paying for a salary, paying for

687
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:17,920
retirement, paying for all the other
stuff in prepare just forever in lie of

688
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:23,200
the mechanical and electronic and
technology to do the same thing for

689
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:27,359
one-time purchase.
>> Yeah. My problem with it is is the

690
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:31,599
amount of time that we're taking people
away from doing their actual job.

691
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,680
» There's no more time taken away from
them doing

692
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:37,040
» 100% there is. I disagree with you
because I watched him answer 35.

693
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:38,720
» I understand, but let me finish my
sentence first.

694
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,119
» Okay.
>> They have to engage the P. Somebody has

695
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,839
to engage the public at some point to
find out where they're going, who they

696
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:49,040
are, what they're here for, and where
they need to go to.

697
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:54,640
» Somebody has to do that. So, there is no
additional time.

698
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:59,359
» Not necessarily, but but it is for a for
the process. If you're putting all on

699
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:04,079
one person or just having someone walk
in and go wherever they want to go, then

700
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:08,079
it's only one person. But if they go
down to the if they go to the clerk's

701
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:12,400
office like they do now and the clerk
isn't there and they go to the code

702
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:16,880
department and it's not a code issue,
we're interrupting and taking away from

703
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:21,040
that service time and detracting from
what they have to provide for their

704
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:24,960
services to cover another department. So
there there it there are a lot of

705
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:31,520
tangible and intangible issues about the
efficiency of what a secure vestibial

706
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:36,799
does but absolutely it will increase one
person's time but take it away from

707
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,640
other people's time.
>> Yeah. I think my big problem is is on a

708
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:46,559
court day,
the clerk's office will

709
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:51,760
based on the traffic of our court from
the documentation that Jay and I saw

710
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:57,119
when we did the audit. I'm assuming on
court days, the clerk's office or the

711
01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:01,359
water whoever it is that's going to do
that those days is going to have a very

712
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,200
very hard time accomplishing any other
task

713
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:10,400
for that window of four hours or
whatever it is that they have to verify

714
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:13,760
everyone's ID and then does the court
provide them with a list to verify yes

715
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,960
this is the day that you're supposed to
be here like the logistics of that seem

716
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:22,559
overwhelming to me on another department
And I and I think that those are all

717
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:28,720
reasonable concerns, but they were all
part of the secure vestibule plan and

718
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:32,720
engineering controls that we are putting
on to Keystone to develop that. That's

719
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,359
information that they need to know from
us, but they're they're getting paid to

720
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:44,799
solve these questions and solve the
problems of that and to give us options

721
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:48,160
on what we're going to choose.
you think that they might have more

722
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:52,480
options coming up the longer we look at
this or feedback from us?

723
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:56,559
» Of course. Of course. All of these
things are are, you know, coming to

724
01:01:54,240 --> 01:02:02,240
light. Um,
and obviously obviously on court days

725
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:07,440
with the signage and probably some
additional signage, the idea is to

726
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:13,280
direct any able bodies around to the
back of the building. However, those who

727
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:17,200
need to use the elevator um or desire to
use the elevator are going to be buzzing

728
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,839
in. There's no there's no question about
it. How much that traffic is, I really

729
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,640
don't know.
>> I don't know either. But yes, whether

730
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:27,599
it's coming to the code office, DPW,
um

731
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,720
» yeah, you're right. There's the there's
the

732
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:34,559
» convenience or inconvenience, if you
will, of securing the vestibial, right,

733
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:40,240
as opposed to just being able to come in
and go to the department in which you're

734
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:44,880
looking for. So absolutely, Keith, to
answer your question, Dave, absolutely.

735
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:51,520
That understanding
how we're laying this out and how we

736
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:55,599
want it to work. Yes, there's some
engineering controls, electronic

737
01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:01,920
controls, if you will, that have to be
part of this discussion. Um, we were

738
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,920
really focused on the layout of this and
what we were going to do to kind of

739
01:03:03,839 --> 01:03:11,760
minimize some of the impact particularly
in the clerk's office without relocating

740
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:15,760
walls or moving all the cabinets around.
So

741
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:21,119
yes, we'll pull that piece together and
and and have that discussion of saying

742
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:26,000
what we're trying to accomplish in terms
of

743
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:32,559
securing just the vestibule and then
having to how does a resident

744
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:34,559
get out of the vestibule, so to say,
right?

745
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:38,559
» You know, what department are you
looking for? Who am I going to be

746
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:45,119
talking to?
>> I I can't get away from the original

747
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:51,200
foundational issue of why we have the
conversation about the secure vestibule.

748
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:59,119
And that is not
for any other reason except to add a

749
01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:07,680
significant level of security to the
building to funnel all of the public

750
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:13,440
into one location and keep the employees
safer.

751
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:16,400
That's that's what I need this project
to accomplish because that's what it

752
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:21,839
started from.
>> And I think there was some scope creep

753
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:26,160
if you will on this as well in those
discussions. I mean I certainly the

754
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:31,599
discussion started early on
>> and that's great for the first floor and

755
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:35,680
anyone coming to the main building but
it accomplishes nothing for those who go

756
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:40,640
up to the court they have complete
access through the second floor back

757
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:47,280
down into the building. Yep.
So, I think adding that element into it

758
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:51,520
and part of some of the other physical
changes to it, the scope creeped a

759
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:58,520
little bit, but you're right, the the
electronic side of this is not been the

760
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,520
options have not been presented.

761
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:11,039
I'll I'll work with Alex on that and
we'll get we'll get those options

762
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:18,000
forwarded.
Okay. Okay. Looks good. All right.

763
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:22,799
Moving on. 5.7 edu letters and
responses.

764
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:27,200
How does the board want to handle this?
These are the 29

765
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:30,440
letters and responses. That's what I got
on the agenda.

766
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,640
But all of them were responded to,
right, Craig?

767
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:40,079
» I have not sent a response out. I have
answered and given you my

768
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,039
recommendation.
>> Oh, I thought these I thought these all

769
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,079
went out.
>> No,

770
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:46,880
» no, it's a board.
>> I'm waiting for the board to decide

771
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:51,280
» decision.
>> Oh. Um, yeah. I I was under the same

772
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,559
assumption, Greg, because they were all
dated letters.

773
01:05:52,319 --> 01:06:00,599
» Yeah,
>> I dated them as they came in to me.

774
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,599
» Okay. Um,

775
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:12,000
» I don't think I I mean I read through
them. I didn't read I did not read

776
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:17,599
through them with the lens of whether or
not they should have gone out. I read

777
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:20,079
them as if they had gone out. So, um, I
didn't take notes on them or I don't

778
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:25,119
have any comments.
>> So, so Jane, just to help clarify.

779
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:32,079
Right. So the the eventual goal here is
to have the town board approve the EDU

780
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:38,400
sewer debt assessment role. So we have a
role that was what the public hearing

781
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:42,799
was on. 29 people grieved their
assessments. It's up to you folks to

782
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:49,359
decide whether to grant their grievances
or not and adjust their edu assignments.

783
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:55,760
So for all 29 of these, you know, you
guys need to tell me which ones, if any,

784
01:06:53,039 --> 01:07:00,720
you are not going to or excuse me, which
ones you are going to approve and grant

785
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:05,119
their grievance so that when so that way
we can update the assessment rule and

786
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,599
you guys can then approve the updated
role.

787
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,760
» I didn't I didn't understand that
process.

788
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:13,119
» No, I didn't either. I I was
>> if you adjust if you adjust any of these

789
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:17,520
EDUs, it affects
>> I I understand but I thought to accept

790
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:21,599
the the EDUs as they were presented with
the public hearing information and then

791
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:25,280
address these 29 afterwards.
>> That if we had to.

792
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:29,520
» Yeah. No, that that's why there was no
action to approve the .edu assessment

793
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:32,880
role at the last meeting. We just held
the public hearing, took no action so

794
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,119
that way you guys could review this
information and decide whether to grant

795
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,280
them or not.
>> I'm sorry,

796
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,520
» Greg. Out of these Hang on a second.
>> Yeah, that's what I was saying. I didn't

797
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:44,079
mean to interrupt you.
>> No, no, but I I was under the same

798
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:48,000
impression. Out of these 29, how many
did you find were in error?

799
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:52,559
» Do you have the Excel spreadsheet there?
Uh, I'm thinking like 10.

800
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,680
» The Excel spreadsheet is not part of
this.

801
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,319
» Yeah,
>> I could go to the last meeting.

802
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:57,520
» Maybe 10.
>> There were 10.

803
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,960
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

804
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:05,119
» So, I was under the impression that
because I would have accepted those

805
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:09,119
recommendations from you to make those
adjustments, any of the ones that were

806
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:15,039
in error. So maybe at the next meeting
if if you guys are saying that you will

807
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:20,480
probably agree with Greg's
recommendations, grant 10 of the

808
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:24,080
grievances, deny the other 19 of them.
We can I can put a resolution together

809
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:29,040
for the next meeting. We can include
Greg's Excel spreadsheet. We can include

810
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:32,799
all 29 of these things that Greg has
there right now. Just to be clear, the

811
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:38,159
ones that I did read through that I know
that you made corrections to,

812
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:41,679
» they were an error, not necessarily
an exemption grant. I just want to be

813
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,440
really clear on that
>> that it was a miscalculation

814
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:50,960
on the footage.
>> And they were they were granted

815
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:55,199
obviously a slight um adjustment. And
then the other suggestions that we made

816
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:59,679
to some of the guys that had the
homeowners that had vacant parcels that

817
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:05,600
if they combined them they would pick up
like a 75. They would go to the maximum

818
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:11,520
1.25. I'm in favor of that. But there in
in regard to any exemptions that this

819
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:17,199
board would make for a property owner, I
didn't I I I didn't see any of those

820
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:20,719
that met the grounds of a correction.
>> There was no exemptions. There was just

821
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:23,279
adjustments. corrections.
>> Correct.

822
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:27,600
» Right. Okay.
>> So, for the next meeting, I'll put a

823
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:33,120
resolution together. We'll have as the
backup Greg's spreadsheet that just kind

824
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:38,480
of summarizes it all. the 29 attachments
that are here right now, the sewer debt

825
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:43,199
assessment role, and I'll talk with
Katherine about we can't actually get

826
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:47,040
the role itself updated because it's all
currently locked behind the county

827
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:51,279
system. But between that role, which
we'll have and the current the changes,

828
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:55,280
corrections to it, those two together
will be what we end up having as

829
01:09:53,359 --> 01:10:00,239
attachments for links because it's too
big uh for the next board meeting. But I

830
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:06,800
just needed direction from you guys like
do you want to grant these, deny them?

831
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:10,640
So I I think I've got that right now.
>> The second one on the list, do we have

832
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:17,760
any exposure with that one in particular
given there's so much documentation?

833
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:23,920
» Uh so that one I think there actually
isn't

834
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:28,480
there's not a signed agreement and I
looked at the minutes from 1998. There

835
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:31,040
was never a board approval.
>> Okay.

836
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,920
» So,
>> and this one wasn't grieved last year.

837
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:41,280
» No.
>> So, even for corrections,

838
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:45,920
calculations that were made in error
requires the board vote to fix the

839
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:49,920
corrections.
>> So, because these these these aren't

840
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:54,640
these aren't exemptions,
>> correct? Yeah. This this is it's just

841
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:57,360
like um the real property assessment
role.

842
01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:00,880
» Okay. So it's basically the whole role
including these 10 adjustments.

843
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,719
» Yes. So you guys you guys are going to
approve that the whole role with these

844
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,159
» these 10 adjustments. Okay.
>> I just wanted to be clear that we

845
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,840
weren't making a separate resolution
just for 10 adjustments.

846
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:13,520
» No.
>> Okay.

847
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:18,080
» Why why can't
approve why can't that corrections be

848
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:20,000
made to the role and then we approve
that role?

849
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:24,400
» That's the idea.
>> That's the idea. It's just that we don't

850
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:27,520
have because of the time of the year it
is. We can't make the changes to the

851
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:32,480
role ourselves. We have to get the
county to do it. And we want to go to

852
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:37,280
the county and say, "The board has now
approved this role with these changes to

853
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:40,280
it. Please actually implement these
changes."

854
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:48,400
» I I just don't want to misunderstand
what my ch my what my charge is for the

855
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:54,080
next meeting. Yes.
>> So, Greg, are you going to reissue these

856
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:57,840
letters all with a different date
because they haven't been sent? You're

857
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:02,000
not going to send out an August 10th
letter on a response?

858
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:05,600
» I could easily change the date.
>> Once once we decide this is what we're

859
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:10,560
going to go with, I can change the dates
and and send them out. Yes.

860
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:15,199
» I think no. For for the agenda next for
the next meeting, I would I would I

861
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,040
would like you to change the date on the
letters.

862
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:23,679
» Sure.
And then if your recommendation to the

863
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:30,400
town board is to make a correction or to
not adjust the the role number, then

864
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:38,000
that will be what the letter says. And I
and I will look at those 29 letters from

865
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:42,000
that viewpoint. Okay.
Okay.

866
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:45,360
Just I mean my letters state if there
needed to be a correction, it showed the

867
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,960
correction.
>> Yep.

868
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:52,199
I wouldn't expect anything other than a
date change.

869
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:59,120
» Okay. So, my only concern is going to be
if you change the edus,

870
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:04,880
your number is going to change the
amount you're going to charge per EDU

871
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:09,920
unless you want to use fund balance.
So, I think Kevin, that's that's a valid

872
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:16,000
question and concern to raise to the
board. That is a budget time issue. Um

873
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:19,440
it and I'm not trying to I mean if you
guys want to talk about it but when you

874
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:24,239
guys are doing your budget part of that
is going to be what is the actual EDU

875
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:27,600
value that's going to get charged to
everybody and this this will affect that

876
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,640
and that's the question you guys will
talk about

877
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:38,080
» but but I'm understanding Kevin's
comment to be this issue the number that

878
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:42,560
we associated everybody's the entire
town edus we already sent them a letter

879
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:48,800
and they didn't grie they didn't grieve
it they didn't complain about it. Now we

880
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:54,480
adjust these everybody's changes filed.
>> So the the edus remember are you know

881
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:58,159
1.25 or one or whatever the number
actually is.

882
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:03,600
» That is the only thing that people can
grieve. People can't grieve the dollar

883
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:08,000
value that you end up actually charging
to people because we have to because

884
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:12,239
it's all based on the debt. The debt is
owed. We have to pay it. We were

885
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:17,040
assessing the .edus and of course the
dollar value will change as edus go up

886
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:22,320
and down. to Kevin's point is I and
because I think we've talked about it or

887
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:26,080
it was mentioned before the number value
the dollar value that was put into the

888
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:31,920
notice although I think it was clear
that this is like this is a you know

889
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:39,120
potential which means it could change if
you want to I'll say honor that dollar

890
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:44,719
value and we adjust EDUs so we're losing
some EDUs that number is going to tick

891
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:47,920
up slightly unless the board uses is
available.

892
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:52,480
» I'm I'm in support of using a couple of
thousand dollars from fund balance

893
01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:58,640
» and it's not it's not general fund
balance. It's it's the SS fund balance

894
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:02,560
which is the sewer bond fund balance. I
I would suggest doing

895
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:05,280
» and there's 163,000 in there which was
the money that was collected over six

896
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,040
years
>> for the ban interest that was

897
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:12,800
» but I'm saying in in terms of
>> money for this

898
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:19,440
» yeah I understand but even if even if we
eliminated all 10 right on 1.25 25. What

899
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:24,000
do we We're talking about what? $2,600.
I guess that's what I'm saying. He's got

900
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:29,440
10 that he adjusted. So instead of going
back and and getting everyone fired up

901
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:36,400
again because they went from whatever it
is 26410 to 265 and a nickel.

902
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:41,480
Let's just use the 2500 from fund
balance and keep it where it was

903
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:41,480
presented.

904
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:48,239
» It's going to be I don't have any
problem with that. As long as I as long

905
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:50,320
as you you can tell us what that
>> dollar

906
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:52,400
» dollar amount is that we're actually
talking about.

907
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,360
» Yeah. And Greg, I'm just doing a quick
estimate based off of the 10 that were

908
01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:00,080
adjusted. That's all.
>> And and those numbers you will have very

909
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:04,000
easily because once you approve the
final edu assessment role, there's the

910
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:06,880
EDUs. We do the math. Here's the new
number.

911
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,239
» Okay.
>> But but this scenario is scenario is

912
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,040
going to happen every year though,
right?

913
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:16,239
» Yes. And recommendation would be to do
it earlier in the years before the rolls

914
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,280
close.
>> So we don't need the county.

915
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:24,920
» So you don't need the county. Catherine
Katherine can change them before the

916
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:24,920
roles are finalized.

917
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,400
» All right. We good with that one?
>> Yes.

918
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:36,320
» Thank you.
>> Thanks, Greg.

919
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:41,440
» All right. Uh no public hearings
tonight. We're going to move on to 7.1.

920
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:45,480
New business.
Joyy's replacement discussion.

921
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,400
Who's leading this?
>> Darren

922
01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:55,960
put in there just

923
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:20,080
what her duties are right now
and what it entails just so

924
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:26,320
she can speak a little more depth of
them.

925
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:30,960
The only concerns that I had, this is
for everybody,

926
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:35,520
anyone actually somebody knew coming
into the position trying to do

927
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:42,440
administration
might be the hardest out of all these

928
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:42,440
parts

929
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:50,840
or we can work on doing it in our
person.

930
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,840
the only one that I saw.

931
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,960
This is just

932
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:10,080
talking
on top of this. The actual replacement

933
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:17,760
portion I have going forward is going to
be a budget budget discussion

934
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:25,080
because she's not going until April 1 of
next year. So it would be talked about

935
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,080
how

936
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,800
» you'll have a recommend. You'll put your
recommendation together.

937
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:52,360
» Okay, I'm all set. Yeah,
>> I am too.

938
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:52,360
» Thank you.

939
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,360
I am the only

940
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:26,040
» that'll be part of your recommendation.
>> The first of the year we renew all those

941
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:26,040
policies in theory. No.

942
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:37,840
Does it does the policy joy say your
name or your position?

943
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:41,679
» No, my name.
>> Okay. Well, I think that that's just

944
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:47,040
probably
the policies to the position.

945
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:53,040
» So,
I mean, I don't see that as as a as a

946
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:57,440
huge issue at all. I I understand if if
the person who's sitting in that chair

947
01:19:54,560 --> 01:20:02,800
and an appointment isn't in the in that
chair that day, but the position exists.

948
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:05,840
So, I'm good.
Just have it as part of your

949
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:10,320
recommendation. And even if that, you
know, if there's other things like in

950
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:13,800
the policy that specifically name her,
name the position.

951
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:25,199
» All right, we're going to move on. 7.2
two bch scheduled discussion had no

952
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:29,120
backup for this. I I don't
>> So there's a resolution later on and I

953
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:34,480
sent an email. I wasn't exactly sure
what fees we were updating. Adam did

954
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:39,199
respond to me asking about the dog
license fee which the board already

955
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:44,320
approved by resolution last year
sometime. So I just said

956
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:50,000
forward the resolution onto e-code or
general code. They should be updating

957
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:54,400
the fee schedule because you can update
that fee schedule. You can increase or

958
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:58,640
decrease the fees on the fee schedule by
resolution. So that one should be

959
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:04,159
resolved. And then the other one was the
blank check fee that you bounced check

960
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:09,520
fee, excuse me. So there is no fee for
bounced checks in your fee schedule.

961
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:15,120
So, I think that would take a local law
based on the way that I read it and that

962
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:19,679
there's no other provision in your town
code that separately authorizes the

963
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:24,000
board to set a fee for bounced checks
outside of that fee schedule. I'll

964
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:28,880
contrast that with the roof fee
schedule, which your building code

965
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:33,280
administration chapter says you can set
fees for the building code stuff by

966
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:38,080
resolution from time to time without
limiting ourselves in the way that

967
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:42,080
chapter 19 fees does. So, we would need
a local law, I think, to adjust that fee

968
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:47,120
schedule. If we're going to do a local
law to excuse me, not adjust it, to add

969
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:55,600
a new fee. If we're going to do that,
I'd recommend just revamping it a little

970
01:21:50,640 --> 01:22:01,440
bit more. Um the
and just really completely if we want if

971
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:05,040
we can get away from needing to add fees
to this by local law unless you're

972
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:11,120
comfortable with that of course you know
but the flexibility to add new fees and

973
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:16,960
increase and decrease them by resolution
is just it's good because it lets you be

974
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:21,679
flexible. um local laws take of course a
public hearing notice

975
01:22:19,679 --> 01:22:28,000
adoption filing with the state. Now
there's benefits to that as well. If you

976
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:33,679
want to be a really
if you are want to have that public

977
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:39,199
notice and input then that's the way to
go. Um if you value the flexibility

978
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:42,719
responsiveness to changes and needs then
you would say I would say go by

979
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,840
resolution. It's whatever you guys want
to do, of course, but if you want a

980
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:49,080
bounce check fee, I think we need to do
a local.

981
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:59,679
» I I went back and looked at the
historical portion of what we did with

982
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:04,480
these fees and it was originally in our
code and it was originally a local law

983
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:10,480
change. There were some things that that
came up in the 20145

984
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:14,880
time frame where there were some fees
that were just never happened in the

985
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:21,440
past that we didn't have the opportunity
in that budget year to do anything in

986
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:27,920
it. So we added the language for by res
we can change then by resolution

987
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:34,800
if it was an existing one. But the but
the conversation at that time was still

988
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:40,000
an annual review of what our what our
fees were. So I just want to give you

989
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:44,480
what has been done in the past and what
we had been what we used as a board just

990
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:52,080
in the time that I've been on a board on
on what it was. Um, so

991
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:56,880
adding our fee schedule to our January
1, the first meeting in January as a

992
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:00,239
review, I think takes care of a lot of
stuff because we budget throughout the

993
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:04,960
year for it and if something comes up,
we can take care of that. We do all of

994
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:08,639
that with all the other stuff. So it's a
a public meeting. I just wanted to give

995
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:14,560
you the background on it, hear how it
goes. Might might I suggest so of

996
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:19,199
courseing budget now anyway
opportune time for your department heads

997
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:27,199
to recommend
due fees now so that you can but then

998
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:30,880
adopt them in January at your or
anything that gets increased and then of

999
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:36,719
course if they say oh we should have a
new fee then we do a local law to try to

1000
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:44,080
time it so that the local law takes
effect as of January 1st. as well.

1001
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:48,480
» Okay.
>> Do do you guys want to do a local off or

1002
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:51,520
bounce check fee
>> or do you want to ask your department

1003
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:57,120
heads if there's any other fees that
they want to add into a local offer

1004
01:24:54,080 --> 01:25:03,520
doing what anyway?
>> I I would think we would want to we're

1005
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:07,199
going to do it all at once. I we could
just I can send an email see if there's

1006
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:11,800
any other fees, but that's the only one
that's come up to me was the bounce

1007
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,800
check.

1008
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,360
» Yeah.

1009
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:22,800
» Kevin, do you know what we've done in
the past with a bounce check?

1010
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:27,719
» I don't I don't know. I'd be honest with
you. I have no idea. It's the first time

1011
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,719
I heard that we had one.

1012
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,280
» How frequent is this, Adam? That's Greg.
Does that ever happen in your

1013
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,560
department?
>> Billing.

1014
01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:42,480
» And what do you do with it? You wave it.
>> We call the homeowner and they repay it

1015
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:45,679
with a good check. They get the fee
through the bank anyways. Their bank.

1016
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:49,520
» Do you get a do you get a fee?
>> We don't get charged a fee though.

1017
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:54,360
» So, what's what's the fee that we're
putting into a local law then?

1018
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,360
» Penalty.

1019
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:02,960
» Oh, we don't get charged the fee.
>> Right. We're not. It sounds like we

1020
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:06,639
don't get to charge a fee from our
banking institution. This is a penalty

1021
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:10,239
what we're talking about.
>> Well, the way the way I see

1022
01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:15,040
» I I don't think I do either.
>> The way the way I could see justifying

1023
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:19,199
it is that the time it takes for the
staff person to enter the initial check

1024
01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:24,639
only for it to bounce and then to
recognize that now there's a deficiency

1025
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:28,080
and then to follow up with the homeowner
potentially or whoever it is. Hey, your

1026
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,440
check bounced. You need to get me a new
one. And now there's a second bite at

1027
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:36,800
the apple. It takes time.
>> Well, it takes time to also process that

1028
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:41,600
$10 fee. And $10 is not is not even
coming close to cover. I I'm not saying

1029
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:46,320
not not do it, but penalty I don't have
an interest in dinging somebody for for

1030
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:49,520
that.
>> Okay.

1031
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:54,080
» No, I'm I'm in agreement with that. I I
thought we were getting charged a bank

1032
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:58,080
fee on that. So if we're not going to
try No,

1033
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:03,280
I'm not for
>> I would like to see something for

1034
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:06,719
relevy. We relevy a lot of accounts in
October.

1035
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:11,520
So that's something that I would like to
see

1036
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:16,800
» a fee for relevy because we revy and
that's $150,000 we probably relevy.

1037
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:22,320
» So we're we're already getting interest
and penalties on that through just the

1038
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:27,159
failure to pay. It's 1% every month. So
like I we're already being compensated

1039
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,159
for that.

1040
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:33,679
» Okay.
All right. So we're good with the fee

1041
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:40,360
schedule.
We're going to move on to department

1042
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,360
reports. 8.1 DPW report.

1043
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:50,719
Um I received the email from BNL.
The contractor on contract one is asking

1044
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:55,840
if we would like to leave the existing
building there. Um

1045
01:27:53,760 --> 01:28:01,040
there's roughly $10,000 left in that
part of it for their demolition.

1046
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:06,320
They suggested that if we wanted to
leave the building, there could be an

1047
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:11,040
opportunity to um sheetrock, do
lighting, do some electrical upgrades in

1048
01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:15,679
that building and keep that building.
>> I would say yes. It's good for storage.

1049
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:22,400
Greg, what's the uh what's currently on
the walls on the interior of the

1050
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:26,639
building?
>> There's some plywood. There's mostly

1051
01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:30,880
block.
>> If you're using that for storage, where

1052
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:34,320
what would you be drywalling? Because it
seems like it would get damaged just in

1053
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:38,400
a storage condition.
>> Some of some of the walls that had some

1054
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:43,280
electrical stuff on it was drywalled.
Some of the one of the lower rooms had

1055
01:28:40,159 --> 01:28:47,120
some drywall on it. the outside wall
between there and the MBR tank. It's

1056
01:28:45,679 --> 01:28:49,040
just block.
>> You would leave that

1057
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,719
» the block.
>> Yeah.

1058
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:55,120
» Yeah. It's a block wall.
>> Yeah. And then instead of drywall, maybe

1059
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,280
infilling with plywood or something or
>> Yeah.

1060
01:28:55,679 --> 01:28:59,920
» I'm just I just looked at the drywall
part of it and I was like, if you're

1061
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:02,800
using it for storage, that seems like
it's going to get damaged pretty quick.

1062
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:06,480
» It It doesn't have to be drywall.
>> I was just curious. I was just curious.

1063
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:10,639
» That was just in their email.
>> Was something the town board wanted to

1064
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,880
look into. We can dig deeper into it. If
not, we have them tear the building

1065
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:17,120
down.
>> So, it's a nice secure building. I mean,

1066
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:21,120
you store chemicals in it or
>> No, there's already storage for chemical

1067
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:25,520
in the back in the new building. It
would be snowblowers,

1068
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:28,920
pumps,
spare parts,

1069
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:40,719
snowblowers,
um, is a fire code issue.

1070
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:46,880
» So, I would, unless you're going to
put the facilities that need to be in

1071
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:52,199
there for for the fire hazard. Just be
very careful about what you're what

1072
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:52,199
you're storing in there.

1073
01:29:55,040 --> 01:30:01,199
I think that that that would probably be
the only thing I'd want to make sure

1074
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:04,560
that we document like what what our
decision is going to be based on is what

1075
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:08,800
you're going to store in there
>> to make sure that the facility is

1076
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:12,880
actually capable of storing that. Okay.
>> Um

1077
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:17,840
And it'll also make sure that
in five years it doesn't get

1078
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:25,320
turned into something that it shouldn't
be stored for.

1079
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,320
» Greg, what's the size of that building?

1080
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:40,639
» 20 by 40. There's a wall in between the
two rooms. One was the electric room,

1081
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:40,639
the other one was the blower room.

1082
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:46,040
floor is in good shape.
>> Yes.

1083
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:52,960
» I think we're crazy to knock it down.
>> I do too. I I don't have any issue with

1084
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:56,639
keeping it. I'm uh I was just concerned
with what we're spending, you know, to

1085
01:30:54,960 --> 01:31:00,400
kind of freshen it up what we're doing
in there. And I agree with Jean, you

1086
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,679
know, hazards. I mean, I don't know if
the brand building sprinklered. I don't

1087
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,800
know anything. I think paying attention
to the to the uh the use of the

1088
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:10,560
building.
>> We can also just get the credit.

1089
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:15,440
We don't have to do anything. That's
also an option. If there's $10,000 left

1090
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:18,880
over for them to demo, they should.
>> But would you need something done in

1091
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,840
there for storage then?
>> No.

1092
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:23,840
» Oh, you don't?
>> No, not necessarily. If they wanted to

1093
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:30,199
upgrade the lights, stuff like that.
Sure. But we can also take the $10,000

1094
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,199
as credit.

1095
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:36,080
» That needs to be removed though.
>> Like was in there has been removed.

1096
01:31:34,639 --> 01:31:39,199
» It's already is. Okay. So, it's a blank
canvas right now. Well, there's still

1097
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:42,159
stuff and let me rephrase that. There
are still electrical stuff that's being

1098
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:45,679
used because we haven't flipped over to
the new complete system yet.

1099
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,600
» And then after that, then we'll have
that removed.

1100
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,520
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1101
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:59,040
» What was the original plan? Why did the
original plan call for it to be demoed

1102
01:31:53,760 --> 01:32:05,199
if there was a potential use for it?
>> Because the electrical room got moved

1103
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:09,440
forward into the new addition to the
building. Okay. And reclaiming that

1104
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:13,600
space of the building, there's not a
benefit to that.

1105
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,520
» That building is gone. What is What is
the space?

1106
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:18,080
» Yeah, it's all all new electrical room
now.

1107
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:23,760
» No, the the building that we're talking
about that is going to be demoed.

1108
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:28,320
» Well, you you couldn't turn one system
on without

1109
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:32,000
you had to install the system in order
to get it that running before you demo

1110
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:37,120
the existing system that's there, which
is the electrical and the blowers. Once

1111
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:40,719
everything's turned on to the new stuff,
all that equipment in there is not going

1112
01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:44,320
to be used.
>> I'm talking about the footprint of the

1113
01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:47,199
building. The building itself,
>> it was just going to be blank space,

1114
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:50,639
» but it was going to be gone.
>> Yes.

1115
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,000
» Gone. Foundation, walls, roof, gone.
>> That was the original plan.

1116
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:56,000
» Correct.
>> So, there had to have been a want for

1117
01:32:54,320 --> 01:33:00,159
that building to go away because you
didn't need it.

1118
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:05,840
» And then what was the space potential
space for that? Couldn't Was there a

1119
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:10,000
plan for it? No, not that I'm aware of.
I didn't design it, but all I understood

1120
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:15,040
was that the building was coming down.
It was going to be blank space, grass,

1121
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:20,320
concrete, black top. That's all it was
going to be.

1122
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:24,159
I I just would want to get the
engineers, you know, understanding of

1123
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:28,320
why they were directed to demo it so
that I knew what

1124
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:31,920
what we're trading up.
>> Yeah. What are we missing out on if we

1125
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:38,800
do leave it up?
>> Yeah. and $10,000 for,

1126
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:43,600
you know, if we're gonna eventually buy
a $40,000 demo and we're getting it now

1127
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:48,080
for $10,000,
get rid of it. I I just want to see I

1128
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:51,920
just want to understand the whole life
cycle of this decision.

1129
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:54,960
That's all,
>> right? Because there would have been

1130
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:58,960
removals. There would have been either
restoration of grass, pavement,

1131
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:02,800
something
>> a lot more than $10,000.

1132
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:05,800
» It smells that way. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1133
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:14,560
» All right. Anything else for DPW?
>> No, I assume we have time to make this

1134
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:16,719
decision, right, Greg? It's not like
they were like, "We need to know."

1135
01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:20,280
» No, they're still using the building,
right?

1136
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,280
» Electric.

1137
01:34:20,575 --> 01:34:28,880
[snorts]
>> I just I had one thing. I had the lady

1138
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:32,320
call. She wants to sell back two plots,
cemetery plots. I know you're aware of

1139
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,920
this,
>> correct? You

1140
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:39,840
» Greg had emailed me. If you'll see my
report, I mentioned

1141
01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:43,840
» Is it on your report? Okay. Well,
>> sticky note on my desk asking

1142
01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:45,120
» which cemetery.
>> I don't know.

1143
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:48,400
» Maple Grove.
>> Maple Grove.

1144
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,719
» But I'd asked um if if you don't mind, I
can I can

1145
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:56,080
» Yeah, you take it. Take a run with it.
>> So, in looking at it, I I don't see that

1146
01:34:53,040 --> 01:35:00,800
the town has any obligation to buy back
burial plots that people do not need.

1147
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:04,480
There's nothing in the agreement that I
was sent about that. There's nothing

1148
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:08,880
under state law that requires it.
However, if the town board would like to

1149
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:12,239
buy them back, you certainly can. So,
it's really just a decision to you folks

1150
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:16,040
as to whether or not you would like to
buy these back or not.

1151
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:25,239
» How full is the cemetery?
>> I have a lot of open space there.

1152
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,239
There's a lot.

1153
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:30,960
I I don't have any issue with buying
cemetery.

1154
01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:34,880
» I I don't want to pay more than what we
got paid, but I don't know, you know, if

1155
01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:38,960
we got paid in the 40s for them. I I I
don't know what

1156
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:44,000
» what was the value looked like they were
pretty recent. Um 20 I'm going way off

1157
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:48,400
field left field here, but it looks like
four lots were purchased. It looks like

1158
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:53,920
they might have divorced.
>> So I I actually in my email back I'm not

1159
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:56,560
sure if she can sell these. Correct.
Like we need to know who the actual

1160
01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:00,960
owners of it are. There might have been
some divorce settlement or she got to he

1161
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:05,040
got to. I don't know. We'd have to see
more information about like the actual

1162
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:10,800
state of ownership on their side of it.
But I'm sure Greg's staff can find or

1163
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:14,400
the clerk's office can find how much was
paid for these, when it was paid. There

1164
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,639
is paperwork indicating when it was
purchased.

1165
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:20,000
» Yeah, I think Jody has it all.
>> She did.

1166
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:24,320
» She's been contacting
our office. So, I just if if the board

1167
01:36:22,639 --> 01:36:29,600
wants to entertain it, we can get
everything together and see how much and

1168
01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:32,239
if it's even possible to see the legal
side of it.

1169
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:36,000
» Yeah, I don't see any issue with buying.
>> I support buying them back.

1170
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:38,239
» I I do too. I just want to see the the
documentation.

1171
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,440
» All right. I'll tell Jody get everything
to you.

1172
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,360
» Yep.
>> All right.

1173
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:46,320
There's just two to buy back or the
four.

1174
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:53,560
» Uh she she's just offering two.
>> Just two.

1175
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,560
Anything else for DPW?

1176
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:02,239
Moving on. 8 8.2 ordinance report. See
the

1177
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:06,560
» you want to answer?
>> I have no questions.

1178
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:09,960
» Everyone's good with that. 8.3 dog
control report.

1179
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,800
» Looks good.

1180
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:22,480
» 8.4 attorney's report.
>> Yep. See, pretty short. Uh, we've

1181
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:26,639
already talked about the cemetery burial
plot buyback question. The one item on

1182
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:31,600
there that you might say, "Huh, what was
that about?" So, I note that we had a

1183
01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:37,440
video conference, we meeting Alex, uh,
the Brian, the new code officer, and

1184
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:43,520
myself with an attorney for the Quinn
Estates LLC, which is the parcel

1185
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:47,280
neighboring adjacent to town hall. It
appears based on what he'd indicated

1186
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:53,119
that they will he they anticipate
submitting an application for a PDD

1187
01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:57,920
reszoning of that parcel some point in
the near future. He did not show us any

1188
01:37:54,960 --> 01:38:03,840
plans, did not any get into any detail.
He was more asking like what the

1189
01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:10,560
procedure might look like just so that
they could have some expectations as to

1190
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:16,400
what a timeline might actually be. um
try to explain what our code says and I

1191
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:20,560
also flagged that we are in the
comprehensive planning process. So I

1192
01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:23,840
don't know how I was very upfront. I
have no idea how receptive the town

1193
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:30,400
board will be to this one way or the
other. So, if they apply, Alex knows

1194
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:35,360
he's going to look at it, confirm its
completeness

1195
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:40,239
uh before moving it on to the town board
for your review and then your decision

1196
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:47,119
whether to move it on to the planning
board or not from there. But we're I

1197
01:38:43,679 --> 01:38:52,080
think all Alex and myself and
Brian's still so new at it. We're going

1198
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:55,840
to say we're on the same page. But, you
know, if and when this does come in,

1199
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:59,480
we're going to move it forward in the
appropriate process.

1200
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:09,520
All right.
Anything for Nate?

1201
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:14,239
Good. All right. 8.5 supervisor's
report. Everybody see the budget

1202
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:18,440
modifications
adjusting the lines that are short.

1203
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:32,520
Anybody have any questions on those?
We are creating one new line if you

1204
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:32,520
approve it for the justice grant.

1205
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,960
Questions, concerns, comments?

1206
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:54,320
Kevin, will these will these
modifications take us through the end of

1207
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:58,159
the year? Is that the is that the idea?
>> There's I'm just looking there's there's

1208
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:04,080
quite a few there obviously that are uh
in the negative now. Um

1209
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:11,040
and it looks like we've got a number of
them moved from water fund balance.

1210
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:14,159
» Those ones Greg would have to answer to
>> because I'm looking there's there's

1211
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,840
three, right?
>> Yes,

1212
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:23,080
» Greg.
Yeah, that's what I see here because

1213
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,080
obviously that one is significantly

1214
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:31,440
um in the negative.
So essentially even moving the

1215
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:35,199
modification amount,
it's basically going to leave you nine

1216
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:39,440
grand left for the
for five months.

1217
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:44,719
Am I looking at that right?
>> Yes. That's what we discussed when Kevin

1218
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:48,719
and I talked about yesterday.
>> Is that going to satisfy

1219
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:52,000
that through the end of the year, that
$9,000? Because that's that's what not

1220
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,480
unless I'm looking at this wrong, but
that's all you're going to have left in

1221
01:40:53,119 --> 01:41:01,199
that.
>> As long as I don't have to replace

1222
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:03,520
$50,000 in unbudgeted pumps and drives
and everything else.

1223
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:08,239
» Is that what that was driven from?
>> Yes.

1224
01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:11,040
» I replaced two pumps that are
>> Maria. I I remember

1225
01:41:09,679 --> 01:41:16,719
» $20,000 a piece.
>> Okay. As normally normally at budget

1226
01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:20,480
time, we don't have money for those
types of repairs.

1227
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:22,560
» We do budget for for one. Yes. I don't
budget for

1228
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:26,400
» the two that you
>> three. No,

1229
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:29,040
» you have you had a third. I know about
the two.

1230
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:32,239
» Well, I ordered pumps three times. Oh,
we had the original. That's one. Then

1231
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,719
I've ordered pumps twice.
>> Right. Because you you had the one

1232
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,159
stock, right?
>> Yeah.

1233
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:42,719
» Okay.
>> I had three drives that went down. Mhm.

1234
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:50,199
» And one has been replaced, one has been
fixed, and one I'm waiting on

1235
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,199
price on a replacement.

1236
01:41:51,360 --> 01:42:00,320
» So those expenses will go underneath
contractual instead of repairs.

1237
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:05,080
contractual I purchased the pump from
the

1238
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,080
company

1239
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:11,480
who did the repair I should say
equipment to go under the tube

1240
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:28,280
where does it leave you for a um a
balance for

1241
01:42:24,639 --> 01:42:28,280
the F99

1242
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:35,600
I don't remember what off top of my head
what it was. It was a couple

1243
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:38,600
hundred,000.
>> Okay.

1244
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,080
» $527,999.

1245
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:51,679
» That's what it leaves him
>> or that's what it is before we pull off

1246
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:57,080
this.
>> That's what it is prior to these

1247
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,239
502
>> 50299

1248
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,239
» 5029
>> Okay,

1249
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:19,000
» that's that's before these
modifications.

1250
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,400
So, we're going to be pulling

1251
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:31,239
71,000 off of this. Correct.

1252
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:50,760
I don't see another option.
>> Yeah, there's no

1253
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:50,760
» Yeah, there really isn't.

1254
01:43:54,960 --> 01:44:04,239
And then at budget time, do we
budget for two of these next year?

1255
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:07,239
» Depends on how much you want to raise
rates,

1256
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,600
» right?

1257
01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:17,199
» Kevin, aside from that, when I look at
this, I didn't see anything else that

1258
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:20,159
came out of the fund balance. Is there?
>> It looks like these just had to be

1259
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:23,119
reallocated.
>> Yeah. All the other ones were

1260
01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:26,400
reallocated. The only fund balance was
for the water. We really didn't have any

1261
01:44:25,119 --> 01:44:28,480
other money in the budget. There's no
other money in the budget to take from.

1262
01:44:28,159 --> 01:44:31,920
» Okay.
>> The other ones we kind of

1263
01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:35,760
» talk to each department head and figure
out where we could get away with moving

1264
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:39,040
some money and not
>> So those were like those were true

1265
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,159
transfers.
>> Yes.

1266
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,840
» Within the budget
>> and a lot of them were mistakes that

1267
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:45,840
were
>> I see that.

1268
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:50,320
» Yeah.
Greg, do you do you have any other um

1269
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:53,840
issues in the budget besides what the
ones we're talking about transferring

1270
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:57,520
here that you think could be a potential
issue over the next five months?

1271
01:44:56,320 --> 01:45:04,040
» I hope not.
>> Okay.

1272
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:04,040
» It's been a very expensive summer.

1273
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:09,360
» I'm all set. Thank you, Greg.
>> Yeah.

1274
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:11,360
» All right. Everybody's all set?
>> Good. Yep.

1275
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:15,360
» Good with the budget modifications.
>> Please forward. I'll send everybody

1276
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:20,480
email today with the fund balances as of
July 31st if you got to see that it's

1277
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:23,199
and I can add it to the agenda next. I
didn't get them till this morning. So,

1278
01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:26,159
» okay.
>> But if you want me to add it to the

1279
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:28,320
agenda, do you want it for discussion?
We could talk about that in future

1280
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,639
topics, but
>> I'm I'm fine with it.

1281
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:31,280
» I'm fine with future topic, right?
>> Yeah.

1282
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:38,159
» Okay.
>> Under the sewer, the one for the .edu

1283
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:42,719
edu payback. Will that be then credited
back to the account where we paid back

1284
01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:49,760
the $5,000 plus dollars for the EDU out
of the sewer account we were going to

1285
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:54,000
transfer SS fund?
>> What are you talking about

1286
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:58,400
» the repayment for the .edu?
>> Yeah. So the BC laundry one, we approved

1287
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:03,760
that by resolution last budget
modifications which I think was April.

1288
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:08,239
We approved that. It was never moved.
>> Correct. So that I have to I have to get

1289
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:11,440
Tom to move that
>> that money that was already approved by

1290
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,199
resolution. These are things that we're
finding that are not

1291
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:16,000
» Okay.
>> I just saw ARPA on there for the water.

1292
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:19,360
I was just making sure.
>> The ARPA one was never that's why I put

1293
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:23,119
it on here because I went back and look
at the other resolutions that the board

1294
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,880
already approved and and that was not on
there. So,

1295
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:30,880
» okay.
>> That one had we had to put that on here.

1296
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:34,880
» But yes, you will get that. That'll put
an extra

1297
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:37,679
» 5,000 in there.
All right. So, we'll talk about that.

1298
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:41,280
And then, did you see the other thing I
had on there? I sent you an email and I

1299
01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:45,679
put it on here about help with the
finances and the budget. Budget time

1300
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:48,880
coming up.
>> I didn't see that. When did you send

1301
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,440
that?
>> It's on the agenda here, too.

1302
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:56,400
» It's right underneath budget
modifications where it says super help.

1303
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:59,760
» I also sent it by email.
>> Superhel.

1304
01:46:57,119 --> 01:47:03,360
» Superhel.
>> Oh, I thought it was a runover from the

1305
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:06,400
budget modifications.
Sorry. No, I could have labeled it

1306
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:08,480
differently.
>> Nine.

1307
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:12,320
» Okay,
>> we knew what it meant.

1308
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,560
» Trying to get it on there. All right.
Um,

1309
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:20,560
» I think it's a good idea.
>> Well, Joy Joyy's ex just a just

1310
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:25,679
explanation here. Every day when my
truck pulls in, the phone rings by the

1311
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:29,040
time I get to my office. Joyy's like,
just I don't want to ruin your day, but

1312
01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:32,880
this is what I found in the in the
financials and this needs to be

1313
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:38,960
corrected. And so she has a pretty good
grasp on what's going on in our uh

1314
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:43,440
financials and she's shown a lot of
interest in helping out getting it

1315
01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:46,719
straightened out. She's even I think she
sat down with Tom the one day to try to

1316
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:53,560
straighten a whole bunch of the highway
lines out and I don't think she could

1317
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:53,560
get through to them. So

1318
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:07,280
» and these these lines are are not these
lines are mistakes.

1319
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:13,520
So a lot of this is just things that
were done incorrectly

1320
01:48:09,679 --> 01:48:18,000
even in the last just this year
just just mistakes.

1321
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:22,000
Um, so we're just we really I'm just
trying to get this.

1322
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:25,840
» I want everything clean.
>> I think it's a great idea

1323
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:29,760
» and just like like Greg said with his
there's a BC laundry one. I mean that

1324
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:33,760
that was just an overlook. I mean I
thought that was already funded into

1325
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:37,520
your line and I'm glad you caught it and
>> we just we got to get that fixed so you

1326
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:41,280
have that money. There's $5,000 that
should be in your line. Yeah.

1327
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:45,840
» Um and there's a lot of them that are
like that. I mean, I know that the the

1328
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,960
comprehensive plan was taken out of the
contractual line and not the actual

1329
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:51,679
comprehensive plan. The first payment
was should have been taken out of the

1330
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:55,920
comprehensive plan by I mean, they just
need to be fixed. These are just

1331
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:59,600
mistakes. Tom says they can be fixed if
they're if they're mistakes and not

1332
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:03,040
actual transfers of money. If they're
just a mistake that was made on the

1333
01:49:01,199 --> 01:49:07,679
accounting part, he said we can fix
those because there's a trail of why

1334
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:14,840
those were not. I mean, if the board
wants me to put them all in here so you

1335
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:14,840
can approve them by resolution, I can.

1336
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:21,360
» That's a journal entry issue to me.
>> It is. I think that's what it is.

1337
01:49:19,679 --> 01:49:24,719
» Exactly what he said. A journal entry.
>> There's already been a resolution to get

1338
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:29,840
these fixed and it just wasn't Yes.
>> entered. Okay. So, so just so you see,

1339
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:34,400
this is what I'm I put on there
>> about Joy. I don't know if anybody has

1340
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:38,960
an issue with it or concerned with it.
I'm looking for help to the end and I

1341
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:46,880
also need help with the budget. I I've
got to enter the budget all myself. So,

1342
01:49:43,199 --> 01:49:50,960
so I've been taught how to do it. So,
maybe Joy will teach Joy how to do it.

1343
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:55,679
Um,
>> I'm comfortable with it.

1344
01:49:53,679 --> 01:50:02,000
It's it's it's it's
hard not having

1345
01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:06,800
somebody in that seat day in and day out
and they're coming basically per the

1346
01:50:05,199 --> 01:50:10,960
contract how many hours we put on there
is the only hours that they're spending

1347
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:13,920
in the town which I don't know is enough
but we signed the contract we'll get

1348
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:16,800
through the end of the year we'll see
how things go.

1349
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:20,480
» Well in my opinion this has certainly
come a long way so I appreciate what

1350
01:50:18,639 --> 01:50:26,000
you've done and I think this is this is
a great addition. Um, I'm in favor of

1351
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:30,480
moving that forward. Just do it.
>> Well, we we've got we we've done these

1352
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:33,520
budget modifications and everything by
resolution. So, I would I would expect

1353
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:38,639
that we're going to have a formal
resolution

1354
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:44,119
for this cost at some point to document
it.

1355
01:50:40,159 --> 01:50:44,119
» But is this a budget modification?

1356
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:50,400
» Yeah. Well, I'm looking at it as a
budget modification. We got to take it

1357
01:50:48,719 --> 01:50:54,960
from someplace. We got to adjust. We got
to allocate it from some account that's

1358
01:50:53,600 --> 01:51:00,639
going to go over. We don't have that
$5,000 in the budget anywhere.

1359
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:07,199
So, I mean, not allocated for this for
this scope. Forget So,

1360
01:51:04,719 --> 01:51:11,679
» well, there's $5,000 allocated for
bookkeeping.

1361
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:17,840
» Yeah, that's what I was looking at.
But not but that bookkeeping is already

1362
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:20,960
I'm just telling you where where where
I'm

1363
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:25,920
I don't care about the scope of what
this is, but we didn't have this $5,000

1364
01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:30,159
budgeted
for this up until this conversation. We

1365
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:36,880
didn't have it in the budget.
So it it it to me it was

1366
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:42,320
a cost add to the budget because we've
still got to we've still got to at some

1367
01:51:38,639 --> 01:51:48,320
point this $5,700, right?
>> What is that what it was?

1368
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:52,560
» $4,984.
>> Sorry, I got

1369
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:56,960
» It's under the $5,000 threshold.
>> There's money in the book. I I don't

1370
01:51:54,880 --> 01:52:02,880
» I guess I'm Yeah, I'm
>> I'm trying to follow this too.

1371
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:06,159
Okay. I'm I mean e either I'm okay to do
a resolution, but I just looked at this

1372
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:12,639
this was in the bookkeeper's line.
There's there's $5,000 there.

1373
01:52:10,159 --> 01:52:16,639
» I did not look at this ask is that's
what it was. It was it's a it's an add

1374
01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:20,239
to the budget. So, we're taking it from
somewhere. We're putting it somewhere a

1375
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:24,719
resolution for why we're doing it, why
we're spending the money. I think that's

1376
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:27,280
that's really that covers us for
everything.

1377
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:32,800
» But I don't look at it that way. I I
look at it as I'm using the bookkeeper

1378
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:36,560
line which has at the end after
modifications that we made to it after

1379
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:44,000
you approved this resolution for
modifications.

1380
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:46,080
It leaves it leaves $20,589.81
in that bookkeeper line for the rest of

1381
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:48,719
the year.
>> Right. But what was that? What was

1382
01:52:47,599 --> 01:52:52,239
» that was for bookkeeping.
>> That was that was for bookkeeping

1383
01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:55,040
» bookkeeping personnel line. And that's
what I'm asking.

1384
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:58,239
» But we were we were going to a different
service for that. We have that in the

1385
01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:02,719
public accounting line,
>> right?

1386
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:08,400
» We have a public accountant line in the
budget that pays for the public account

1387
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:12,159
and then we have a bookkeeping line.
>> All right.

1388
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,880
Okay. I think we
>> we do budget this year if you want to

1389
01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:18,800
remove one of those lines.
>> Well, this is a decision that either

1390
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:21,920
needs a motion or a resolution because
every decision that we make, we can't

1391
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:25,920
just say go forward with it. We got to
we got to we got to make a decision.

1392
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:31,920
It's got to be recorded somehow.
We've done we've done employment there's

1393
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:36,880
an employment issue that absolutely
should be done by resolution that we're

1394
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:42,560
going to employ this person for this
amount of time for this cost through

1395
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:46,080
this period.
>> So we'll do it by resolution then

1396
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:49,040
» I just when I just looked at this right
when you say budget modification I'm

1397
01:53:47,599 --> 01:53:53,760
assuming we're taking it from another
account line. It it looks like it's

1398
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:58,639
coming out of this line, but it's not
moved anywhere else.

1399
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:03,199
» Yes. And and I can see that. I didn't
read it this way that I didn't read it

1400
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:07,920
that way when I read through it. I
looked at this as a as a budget cost ad.

1401
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:12,080
So, we'd have to bring it from somewhere
else and there wasn't a lot of

1402
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:16,320
documentation in it for that. I
understand what you're doing with it,

1403
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:20,800
but the original resolution that we put
together for that line item for that

1404
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:26,400
budget was this is the services for it.
This is a different service for it.

1405
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:30,880
It's fine.
It's it's just different. Um this is

1406
01:54:28,639 --> 01:54:37,360
this is an employment issue. It's not
really a budget line item issue more

1407
01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:41,360
than than anything else. So, you know,
the the way I think I would think of it

1408
01:54:39,199 --> 01:54:46,080
is, and this should happen with some of
your employees, right? You have an

1409
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:49,199
employee whose job duties are water and
sewer.

1410
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:53,520
» Their salary or their hourly rate should
come out of both of the personnel lines.

1411
01:54:51,199 --> 01:54:58,719
So, I think what we are doing is we'll
do a resolution saying Joy will be

1412
01:54:56,159 --> 01:55:02,480
assigned additional bookkeeping duties
for two and a half hours a day, you

1413
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:06,320
know, Monday through Friday or whatever
it is as needed until the end of budget

1414
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:12,080
season.
with her pay for those services to come

1415
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:17,520
out of the bookkeeping personnel line
and then she just gets her salary or her

1416
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:24,000
wages split like that. My question is do
you want to have her start doing

1417
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:29,119
tomorrow? So the resolution will ratify
her starting those duties, you know,

1418
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:32,000
retroactive to September 3rd or do you
want to wait for two more weeks?

1419
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,480
» Tomorrow.
>> Yeah, tomorrow.

1420
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:39,360
I I mean I don't have an issue doing
that resolution. It's up to you guys if

1421
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,760
you want to do it.
>> I'm totally comfortable with that given

1422
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:47,840
» the only exposure that you have and I'm
not saying there's any

1423
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:52,000
» it. But if we actually pay her for that
without the resolution,

1424
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:55,280
you've encumbered it without without the
resolution and I don't see a big deal

1425
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:59,760
with it, but I think it's important to
know that that we're not going to meet

1426
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:04,719
again before payroll goes out and her
working on it and getting paid for it

1427
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:06,800
before we've actually put it in place.
I'm personally comfortable with that

1428
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:12,119
still.
>> I hear what you're saying, but yeah, I'm

1429
01:56:08,639 --> 01:56:12,119
good to move forward.

1430
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:23,679
» Move as fast as we can.
>> So, I need a resolution or not just

1431
01:56:21,679 --> 01:56:27,119
resolution will be at the next meeting.
Okay.

1432
01:56:25,679 --> 01:56:30,360
» All right. So, we'll have a resolution
next meeting.

1433
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:38,800
» Thank you.
All right, that's it for supervisors. On

1434
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:41,199
to resolutions
9.1.

1435
01:56:40,159 --> 01:56:43,920
» Resolution.
>> I have a question.

1436
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:49,920
» Go. Sorry, we got a question
>> about the bookkeeper. We have um Tom is

1437
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:51,679
the one who's doing most of the hands-on
work for us.

1438
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:56,320
» Yes,
>> I believe. And the owner, she was having

1439
01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:00,560
problems with having her personal
computer connected to our town computer

1440
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:05,280
system. Yes,
>> we were talking about maybe buying her a

1441
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:09,840
computer. Has that been resolved or
>> We can't communicate with her.

1442
01:57:08,239 --> 01:57:14,719
» We don't talk to her.
>> We try.

1443
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:19,599
» So, she she has an employee
working with us, but she's not.

1444
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:23,520
» Um,
Pyramid has tried to contact her

1445
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:26,480
numerous times. Pyramid sends me emails
that they can't contact her. I've tried

1446
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:34,000
to contact her. Jod tried to contact
her. Um, so

1447
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:40,000
We're working on it the best we can.
I'll keep you up to date. Um,

1448
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:44,719
that's all I can tell you right now
because Pyramid has an open ticket for

1449
01:57:41,679 --> 01:57:49,480
that VPN issue and we can't get it
resolved.

1450
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,480
So,

1451
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,960
» just a rumor that I heard. So, I just
wanted

1452
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:58,960
» It's no rumor.
All

1453
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:06,040
right. Resolutions
>> 9.1 approving abstract number 17.

1454
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:12,400
» So move
>> second.

1455
01:58:10,239 --> 01:58:13,520
» Any discussion?
>> None.

1456
01:58:13,119 --> 01:58:15,119
» None.
>> None.

1457
01:58:14,239 --> 01:58:16,400
» Mr.
>> Hi.

1458
01:58:15,599 --> 01:58:17,520
» Mr. Simonus.
>> Hi.

1459
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,639
» Mr. Johnson.
>> Hi.

1460
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,760
» Mr. Hbert.
>> No.

1461
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:23,920
» Mr. Warden.
>> Hi.

1462
01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:28,960
» 9.2 and 9.3. You'll see. I I don't
believe I received the backupion for

1463
01:58:26,719 --> 01:58:34,400
those yet. So, they're still just kind
of placeholders right now.

1464
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:39,440
Uh 9.4 resolution accepting and
approving justice court audit report for

1465
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:41,440
fiscal year ending 2024.
>> So moved.

1466
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,440
» Second.
>> Any discussion?

1467
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:44,800
» None.
>> None.

1468
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,080
» None.
>> Mr. Sla.

1469
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,199
» I.
>> Mr. Simonus.

1470
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,239
» Hi.
>> Mr. Johnson.

1471
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:49,360
» Hi.
>> Mr. Hullbert.

1472
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:50,719
» Hi.
>> Mr. Warden.

1473
01:58:50,159 --> 01:58:54,639
» I.
>> 95. Resolution accepting and approving

1474
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:57,520
justice court audit reports for fiscal
year ending 2025.

1475
01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:00,000
» So moved.
>> Second.

1476
01:58:59,119 --> 01:59:02,159
» Any discussion?
>> None.

1477
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:08,480
» Question.
>> Um when are is there a time frame that

1478
01:59:04,719 --> 01:59:13,440
these have to be done in
>> there was it's passed

1479
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:14,960
» and I'm I'm just extrapolating to 2026.
When when do we

1480
01:59:14,239 --> 01:59:19,520
» first quarter
>> first quarter? Okay. I'd like our

1481
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:22,480
resolution for these should be done
before the first quarter. or in the for

1482
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,719
in the
>> right the audit should be done in the

1483
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:25,840
first quarter.
>> Okay.

1484
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:29,280
» Yep.
>> Now that we know the process, it will be

1485
01:59:28,719 --> 01:59:32,639
» Yeah.
>> much easier. I

1486
01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:35,119
» I just didn't know if it was an a yearly
issue.

1487
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:39,440
» It it is it's an annual thing, but I
think uh April 30th or something like

1488
01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:43,920
that. Trying to remember the date, but
it's it's first quarter. It's basically

1489
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:47,599
you're supposed to get these in, you
know, once the year's over with, books

1490
01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:52,159
are closed. These are supposed to be in,
I believe, by the end of April.

1491
01:59:49,599 --> 01:59:52,159
» Okay.

1492
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,440
Mr. SL.
>> Hi,

1493
01:59:54,719 --> 01:59:56,560
» Mr. Sonus.
>> Hi,

1494
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,599
» Mr. Johnson.
>> Hi,

1495
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:58,639
» Mr. Hbert.
>> Hi,

1496
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:04,560
» Mr. Warden.
>> Hi.

1497
01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:10,560
» 96. We talked about that earlier. Uh 97,
resolution approving three new volunteer

1498
02:00:06,719 --> 02:00:12,400
Shenango Bridge firefighters.
>> So moved.

1499
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,920
» Second.
>> Any discussion?

1500
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,280
» None.
>> None.

1501
02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:16,560
» None.
>> Mr. SLA.

1502
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:17,599
» Hi.
>> Mr. Simonus.

1503
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:18,639
» Hi.
>> Mr. Johnson.

1504
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:20,480
» Hi.
>> Mr. Hbert.

1505
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,320
» Hi. Mr. Warden
>> I

1506
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:26,239
» and 9.8 resolution authoriz transfers.
>> So moved.

1507
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:27,599
» Second.
>> Any discussion?

1508
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:28,400
» None.
>> None.

1509
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:29,840
» None.
>> None.

1510
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:30,880
» Mr. Schla.
>> I.

1511
02:00:30,159 --> 02:00:32,000
» Mr. Simon.
>> Hi.

1512
02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:32,960
» Mr. Johnson.
>> Hi.

1513
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,400
» Mr. Hullbert.
>> Hi.

1514
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:41,560
» Mr. Warden.
>> I.

1515
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:41,560
» All right. 10.1. Future board topics.

1516
02:00:54,639 --> 02:01:01,040
We have wastewater treatment plan on
there again. Uh comprehensive plan on

1517
02:00:59,199 --> 02:01:03,520
there again. We're going to hold off on
the hometown heroes. We're good with

1518
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,360
that until we
>> until budget. Yeah. Yeah, we're good

1519
02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:09,560
with that.
>> Uh we have budget discussion

1520
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:19,199
next uh next meeting. We said the 16th.
>> Yep.

1521
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:23,119
Are you doing the department head um
duties

1522
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:26,639
template?
Department department head job

1523
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:28,800
description discussion with the Is that
what you're looking for?

1524
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:29,679
» Yeah.
>> Yep.

1525
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:33,560
» Okay.
>> Yep. We'll put that back on.

1526
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:43,280
Uh,
you're going to have the edus back on

1527
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:49,080
there again or just the resolution?
>> It'll be the resolution regarding the

1528
02:01:45,679 --> 02:01:49,080
edu assessment.

1529
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:57,040
» You have a reszo for Joy?
>> Yep.

1530
02:01:54,320 --> 02:02:02,239
And then the other resolution that you
guys will need to do is uh introducing a

1531
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:06,440
tax cap override local law and
scheduling a public hearing on that.

1532
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,760
Yes.

1533
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:24,320
» When's the next uh B&L update?
>> Is that next meeting, Greg? Or

1534
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:25,040
» I see in Jod's hands for the next
meeting.

1535
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:28,159
» Yeah,
>> it is.

1536
02:02:25,599 --> 02:02:32,639
» Yes, sir.
>> Just curious how the schedule's going

1537
02:02:31,199 --> 02:02:36,800
» because obviously we've passed
substantial completion. Correct.

1538
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:44,960
When do you think you'll be able to have
the information on that building

1539
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:49,280
demolition information?
>> Next week. Next meeting.

1540
02:02:47,599 --> 02:02:52,320
» As long as B&L will give it to me and
have it in a timely fashion, I should

1541
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:55,320
have it. Yeah.
>> Okay.

1542
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:04,159
Do we have do we have time on
on our next meeting for that?

1543
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:06,320
» Absolutely. for that for that I would
think so

1544
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,480
» I mean
>> I don't know how much you want to get

1545
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:12,880
into the budget on
>> well that the budget was probably

1546
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:15,119
» the most of it but I I I think we should
move on this this I don't think that's

1547
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,440
it
>> okay

1548
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:21,520
» I I have no problem with it I just don't
want to overload it

1549
02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:24,080
» you will also see um for the tree
removal there's a need to be tree

1550
02:03:22,719 --> 02:03:26,880
removal at the wastewater treatment
plant

1551
02:03:25,119 --> 02:03:32,080
» and we have to decide if we want to do
it per the contract or if we can do it

1552
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:36,560
outside the contract because there's
overund $1,000 difference in the two

1553
02:03:34,719 --> 02:03:42,800
quotes just for the insurance
requirements alone. So you'll see that

1554
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:45,800
in a report in two weeks.
>> Okay.

1555
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:54,719
» Cemetery resolution buyback information.
>> I think we need more information before

1556
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:57,199
I can put a resolution together, but
we're going to work on getting that

1557
02:03:56,159 --> 02:04:00,239
information. And maybe
>> I was going to say if it was a recent

1558
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:02,320
purchase, it shouldn't be that long of a
walk, right?

1559
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:04,639
» It it shouldn't be. It's just I don't
because I don't have it all at on my

1560
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:07,920
fingertips. Can't say we're going to
have the resolution, but I think we can

1561
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:10,719
report back at the next meeting about
it.

1562
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:14,800
» Okay.
>> What about the uh town storage network?

1563
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:19,119
Are you going to be able to get that so
we can get that?

1564
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:24,480
» I'm I'm done making you guys promises.
My last four weeks have just not been

1565
02:04:21,599 --> 02:04:29,280
what I needed them to be. So,
>> do you want me to get a hold of John?

1566
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:33,280
» No, I don't want to put anything on you
that is mine. And it's more of just

1567
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:38,159
» Oh, you haven't gotten the responses?
>> No, I I have not. John's asked me for

1568
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:43,119
information and I haven't gotten it. I
have not gotten him.

1569
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:46,000
» If Jody could send him the
procurement policy,

1570
02:04:45,599 --> 02:04:50,360
» okay,
>> that Okay.

1571
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:54,639
» I just did not dig that out.
>> Okay. Well, I'll send it to

1572
02:04:53,941 --> 02:04:57,639
[clears throat]
Okay.

1573
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:03,280
I don't know how much more we want to
add to if we're going to get into the

1574
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:07,960
budget.
>> I think the budget's important enough

1575
02:05:04,719 --> 02:05:07,960
that we

1576
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:14,239
» Are we expecting something on the
Wisconsin Drive issue that Dave brought

1577
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:18,599
up earlier?
>> Is that the King property?

1578
02:05:15,599 --> 02:05:18,599
» Yes.

1579
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:29,760
» And I was not in the meeting today.

1580
02:05:33,119 --> 02:05:40,320
and nothing from BNL has been brought to
this table from the contractor for

1581
02:05:38,159 --> 02:05:46,760
quotes for anything and this has been
over a month and a half now trying to

1582
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:46,760
deal with this

1583
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:54,040
they're road hazards right now
>> I guess

1584
02:05:55,280 --> 02:06:04,800
if the stuff is submitted to
to Jody for the agenda

1585
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:08,719
on time. We can
>> get to it if we if we have it. I just I

1586
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:14,000
don't know what's got to happen on Greg
and Alex's and Nate's end and your end,

1587
02:06:12,639 --> 02:06:18,960
Darren. You know, I don't know what
collaboration's got to happen there.

1588
02:06:16,719 --> 02:06:22,800
» You said there was two Wisconsin and
>> road.

1589
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:25,679
» I don't even remember the Prenise Road
issue.

1590
02:06:24,639 --> 02:06:29,360
» It's the same issue.
>> Same issue. same issue but

1591
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:33,199
» I think
>> okay

1592
02:06:30,719 --> 02:06:38,719
» you should see a review from Alex then
it'll be from BNL as well Alex went out

1593
02:06:36,719 --> 02:06:41,920
today and actually looked at the sites
>> okay

1594
02:06:39,199 --> 02:06:46,320
» he gave us two cents
as far as the other ones like carmich

1595
02:06:44,719 --> 02:06:51,840
paving
there is a price there incorporate all

1596
02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:57,960
that into the next
report

1597
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:57,960
that's how I understood it today Okay.

1598
02:07:00,719 --> 02:07:06,280
All right. Anybody have anything else? I
don't have anything.

1599
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:16,960
Good. Moving on. All right. We're going
to go to open form. Guest shall speak in

1600
02:07:15,199 --> 02:07:19,840
an orderly fashion, unlimited remarks of
five time minutes or less. The speaker

1601
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,480
shall deliver their comments, concerns
in a civil tone without the use of

1602
02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:26,000
profanity, personal attacks, or other
disruptive behavior which may result in

1603
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:29,679
the offender's removal from the meeting.
The speaker shall not be interrupted

1604
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:33,719
except in a matter of urgency. Would
anyone like to speak tonight?

1605
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:44,199
Okay.
See, we have no speakers.

1606
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:56,159
All right.
Make a motion to go in executive session

1607
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:59,159
to discuss the department head
probation,

1608
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:09,760
employee probation. Um,
do you want to

1609
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:16,800
invite anybody in or does board just
want to discuss? I think at this stage I

1610
02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:23,119
would recommend board only first.
>> Okay.

1611
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:28,880
» And then to have the ability
to even discuss with department head or

1612
02:08:26,239 --> 02:08:33,360
attorney
to have them come in, but I think it

1613
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:39,920
should be the board first.
>> Okay. But have the opportunity to invite

1614
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:42,880
department head or attorney in.
>> Yes. I'll make I'll make that motion.

1615
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:47,199
» I'll second that.
>> Any discussion?

1616
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:50,079
» None.
>> None.

1617
02:08:48,239 --> 02:08:51,440
» Mr. SL.
>> Hi.

1618
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:52,639
» Mr. Simonus.
>> Hi.

1619
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:53,840
» Mr. Johnson.
>> Hi.

1620
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:55,040
» Mr. Hbert.
>> Hi.

1621
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:58,040
» Mr. Warden.
>> Hi.

1622
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:16,200
So

1623
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:44,319
like

1624
02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:09,080
Oh yeah.

1625
02:29:00,240 --> 02:29:03,720
Hydro power.

1626
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:17,403
Change right back.
[laughter]

1627
02:38:08,800 --> 02:38:11,800
Wait,

1628
02:38:19,359 --> 02:38:22,520
wait, wait.

1629
02:52:19,949 --> 02:52:21,969
» [clears throat]

1630
03:33:28,560 --> 03:33:32,040
» Tornado warning.

1631
03:33:52,239 --> 03:33:57,399
Stay barefooted.
Stay barefooted.

1632
03:34:16,880 --> 03:34:20,120
I know

1633
03:34:28,960 --> 03:34:32,680
usually a big deal.

1634
03:41:24,208 --> 03:41:26,228
» [clears throat]

1635
03:46:53,677 --> 03:46:55,696
[clears throat]

1636
03:51:19,600 --> 03:51:23,160
» Yeah, he's got

1637
03:51:29,600 --> 03:51:35,920
All right, we're back in a regular
session.

1638
03:51:33,199 --> 03:51:41,640
Any other
discussion tonight or

1639
03:51:38,479 --> 03:51:41,640
I have

1640
03:51:41,760 --> 03:51:48,199
» no
do you want opportunity to speak or

1641
03:51:48,479 --> 03:51:51,479
visit

1642
03:51:57,760 --> 03:52:01,960
cemetery where my wife is

1643
03:52:11,439 --> 03:52:17,479
recruited very large secretary.

1644
03:52:24,479 --> 03:52:30,520
Thank you.
>> All right, that's all the

1645
03:52:33,359 --> 03:52:39,239
» Do I have a second?
>> Second.

1646
03:52:35,840 --> 03:52:39,239
» All in favor?