1 00:00:06,930 --> 00:00:08,930 There we are. 2 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:41,350 I'm no cause anything I can help with. 3 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:14,370 I can feel it. 4 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:15,170 Like you're on one go. 5 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:20,590 Yeah. 6 00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:27,590 You're on one go. 7 00:01:29,170 --> 00:01:29,310 Yeah. 8 00:01:29,310 --> 00:01:29,550 You're on one go. 9 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:31,610 We're on one go. 10 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:33,730 We don't know if we should push through this. 11 00:01:34,270 --> 00:01:35,030 I think that's good. 12 00:01:35,570 --> 00:01:36,030 I think that's good. 13 00:01:36,030 --> 00:01:36,410 I think that's good. 14 00:01:36,650 --> 00:01:37,390 I think that's good. 15 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:39,030 It's a pain. 16 00:01:39,430 --> 00:01:40,130 I think that's kind of a shame. 17 00:01:43,570 --> 00:01:46,270 What's your last name? 18 00:01:47,970 --> 00:01:48,030 Gil. 19 00:01:51,150 --> 00:01:52,330 He's out of jail. 20 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:53,410 Yeah. 21 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:55,790 He's out of jail. 22 00:01:56,670 --> 00:01:56,950 Okay. 23 00:01:58,170 --> 00:01:58,570 Okay. 24 00:01:59,210 --> 00:01:59,470 Thanks. 25 00:02:00,190 --> 00:02:00,690 Thank you. 26 00:02:01,370 --> 00:02:02,130 Thank you. 27 00:02:04,650 --> 00:02:05,890 Thank you. 28 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:07,170 Thank you. 29 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:11,050 I'm going to put a record on the side. 30 00:03:12,250 --> 00:03:13,270 I'm going to put a record on the side. 31 00:03:15,330 --> 00:03:15,990 I'm going to put a record on the side. 32 00:03:16,490 --> 00:03:17,990 I can't see you. 33 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:27,290 Oh, that's not a great memory. 34 00:03:27,730 --> 00:03:29,610 I have 17. 35 00:03:31,770 --> 00:03:36,230 Oh, I must be out there all gone. 36 00:03:36,230 --> 00:03:48,770 I can run up here really quickly and make some more but people can also kind of write on their phone and there's that 37 00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:19,720 I'm gonna grab you a plug-in. 38 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,660 Actually I'm going to use your phone. 39 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:23,720 Oh, it's no use here. 40 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,860 I don't know what this is. 41 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:28,120 I don't know what this is. 42 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:28,660 I don't know. 43 00:04:28,660 --> 00:04:31,280 Oh, I don't know. 44 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,500 Oh, so we can feel it. 45 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,600 Do you hear the parer? 46 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,720 I can't hear the parer. 47 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,660 I can't hear the parer. 48 00:04:38,940 --> 00:04:42,400 Yeah, I can hear the parer. 49 00:04:44,090 --> 00:04:45,390 We can put it in the movie. 50 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:46,690 Oh, great. 51 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:48,790 Oh, oh, no. 52 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:50,990 Yeah, that's better, I think that's better. 53 00:04:51,730 --> 00:04:52,070 Yeah, that's better. 54 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:53,570 Point broader. 55 00:04:53,930 --> 00:04:54,570 Can you paint? 56 00:04:54,810 --> 00:04:55,930 Can you take that piece of gun? 57 00:04:55,970 --> 00:04:56,810 Sure, men are there. 58 00:04:57,210 --> 00:04:57,590 All right. 59 00:04:57,890 --> 00:04:58,870 You got that piece? Yes. 60 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:31,380 Good evening. Good evening. I'd like to welcome you to our September, 2020-6, 61 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:41,000 If you're a key county planning commission public hearing we're all seem to be here in attendance, and so just a few things before we get started. 62 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:48,200 If you wish to speak in favor of opposition to us tonight and you're not the owner of the applicant, 63 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,380 those who speak in opposition must file a campaign disclosure and file it. 64 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,640 If you haven't, can you Morgan, could you weigh that to us? Do you have it? 65 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,440 I don't have a copy of the form. 66 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,020 Chris, did you have that in the back? 67 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,240 OK, so it'll be in the back and if you bring it forward, 68 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:09,820 the campaign disclosure. 69 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,880 The applicant and its supporters will have 10 minutes to speak, 70 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:21,220 followed by the opposition, which will also have 10 minutes to speak. 71 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,960 And so if you wish to speak, please try to not repeat what other people 72 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:34,000 said in front of you because we are going to try to keep this 10 minutes. We are starting late again. 73 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:39,620 So we want to try to move this efficiently as possible. We want everything to be heard of course, 74 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:47,240 but we do want to try to keep our protocol of 10 minutes for the applicant and 10 minutes in 75 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,780 opposition. So when you come to the podium, please state your name and address for the record, 76 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:57,960 and we'll go from there and we can start with our first case. 77 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,040 Do you want to do the approval of minutes? 78 00:07:00,140 --> 00:07:01,240 Oh, excuse me. 79 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Absolutely. 80 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,960 We have the, I'd skip this. 81 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:07,480 I'm sorry about that. 82 00:07:09,020 --> 00:07:15,780 Let's talk, let's look at the public hearing, hearing minutes of August 4th, 83 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:27,200 I think there's been a number of corrections provided to staff at the email and those have been accepted by the staff. 84 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:32,400 So is there any other additions that haven't been made to the staff? 85 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,420 You got the ones I sent you. 86 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Yes, I believe so. 87 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:39,890 Okay. 88 00:07:55,780 --> 00:07:56,720 So we have them all. 89 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Okay. 90 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,700 Thank you. 91 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:05,960 So with that, I'll entertain a motion to accept the meeting minutes as amended. 92 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,540 I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes as amended. 93 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,750 I'll make a motion for approval by commissioner below. 94 00:08:13,940 --> 00:08:15,760 Second by commissioner dolls. 95 00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:18,610 Any discussion? 96 00:08:19,710 --> 00:08:20,230 All in favor? 97 00:08:20,630 --> 00:08:22,410 It's please indicate by saying aye. 98 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:23,810 Your pose. 99 00:08:24,430 --> 00:08:25,370 Passive unanimously. 100 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:29,930 Moving on to the work session minutes of August 17. 101 00:08:32,590 --> 00:08:38,130 I believe we are in the same situation as some minor edits that were submitted to staff, 102 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:40,550 and those have been corrected for the record. 103 00:08:41,690 --> 00:08:45,130 Anybody else have anything that has not been submitted? 104 00:08:45,790 --> 00:08:51,070 Here, now I want to entertain a motion to accept those minutes as amended. 105 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:52,590 I'll make a motion to approve. 106 00:08:52,590 --> 00:08:56,810 I'm going to put my button and second my commissioner below. 107 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:58,810 I'll in favor of that motion. 108 00:08:59,030 --> 00:09:00,430 Please indicate by saying aye. 109 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:00,970 Aye. 110 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:01,830 Aye. 111 00:09:02,770 --> 00:09:02,910 No. 112 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:03,850 Upscan. 113 00:09:04,130 --> 00:09:04,550 Upscan. 114 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:04,590 Upscan. 115 00:09:05,850 --> 00:09:08,470 And as commissioner being his aunt. 116 00:09:10,420 --> 00:09:10,920 Sips thing. 117 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:13,930 OK. 118 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:16,330 Now, I'll get back to where I was. 119 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:17,750 I jumped the gun. 120 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:19,210 We'll have our first case. 121 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:20,790 All right. 122 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:23,140 I will close. 123 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 So the first case that we have on the agenda is will 124 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:39,380 I'm sorry if I've messed that up, but yeah, it's probably, it's a 125 00:09:39,380 --> 00:09:43,540 rezoning case on Knoxburg, triway for two, I'm sorry, it's a special 126 00:09:43,540 --> 00:09:47,300 use permit case on Knoxburg, triway for 2.2 acres. 127 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:53,660 It's in District 3, it's for gas station with additional retail and they 128 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:56,800 had two concurrent variances requested. 129 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,820 I do want to let you know. 130 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:10,660 That the applicant between the, between the work session and now, the applicant is requested post-pone the public hearing on this case to November. 131 00:10:11,860 --> 00:10:23,500 We found a significant conflict on their site plan that's a problem for two of the zoning conditions from that 2008 case. 132 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:30,240 I can go into more detail if it'd like, but they would really like to postpone the public hearing altogether. 133 00:10:30,820 --> 00:10:35,740 It would be re-advertised and depending on the scope of the changes to the site plan, 134 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:42,700 we may need to notify everybody who received an invitation for the community input meeting as well. 135 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,260 Because that's a change to the site plan. 136 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,800 So it will be re-advertising. 137 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,820 Yes, and we'll have a work session, I guess, in October, by the way. 138 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:53,820 Okay. 139 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:57,180 Any questions of this noise? 140 00:10:59,260 --> 00:10:59,580 Okay. 141 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,080 So the applicant has requested a postponement to November 3rd, 142 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,140 2026. 143 00:11:05,260 --> 00:11:08,040 There will be re-advertising. 144 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,970 There will be community involvement information exchange meeting. 145 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:20,610 Well, I have another work session on this case looking for potentially a new site plan and so forth. 146 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:29,590 It represents the conditions potentially of the 2008 or that, I guess, I could end up in other variants of the class. 147 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:36,650 Could either, could either wind up with some variances, or maybe have to tack on some modification to zoning conditions? 148 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:37,270 Okay. 149 00:11:39,070 --> 00:11:41,970 So, is there a motion to accept the postponement? 150 00:11:41,970 --> 00:11:44,690 Make a motion do it at the postponement. 151 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:45,450 All right. 152 00:11:45,610 --> 00:11:46,170 All right. 153 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:47,030 I'll second it. 154 00:11:49,290 --> 00:11:50,250 Commissioner Gill. 155 00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:52,470 Motion may pass. 156 00:11:52,890 --> 00:11:54,650 May about commissioner below. 157 00:11:54,970 --> 00:11:56,490 Seconded by committee Gill. 158 00:11:57,270 --> 00:11:58,790 All those in favor and at motion. 159 00:11:59,250 --> 00:11:59,870 Please indicate. 160 00:12:00,290 --> 00:12:01,270 It's by saying aye. 161 00:12:02,270 --> 00:12:02,330 Aye. 162 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:03,010 Be opposed. 163 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:05,270 Motion passes unanimously. 164 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:07,450 All right. 165 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:11,550 Let's go to our second case. 166 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:51,280 I 167 00:12:54,030 --> 00:13:00,710 think there was an attempt to notify these folks ahead of time, and it was an unfortunate 168 00:13:00,710 --> 00:13:06,390 thing that they waited to almost add a clock, but I think just for everyone's information 169 00:13:06,390 --> 00:13:09,450 There wasn't a doubt to notify the public. 170 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:10,330 Yes. 171 00:13:13,530 --> 00:13:16,810 And unfortunately, I left on the mistake on this slide. 172 00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:22,970 This is the next case is John Lloyd for LDS arms, 173 00:13:23,690 --> 00:13:27,650 Baldwin Highway, property that we've seen many times. 174 00:13:29,050 --> 00:13:36,430 They are requesting to rezone 40 acres for light industrial. 175 00:13:36,430 --> 00:13:45,930 they are going from our 80 li within the city limits of ball ground. They specifically said 176 00:13:45,930 --> 00:13:52,610 the use was going to be a flex for warehouse. So ignore the details of the request. I failed 177 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:55,590 to get that updated from the work session slides. 178 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,300 This is the general vicinity of that property. 179 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:09,200 The parcels in question are highlighted in a light blue color. It is this property is located 180 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,200 between the Sage Hill development and the Marble Tree, 181 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:21,320 residential subdivision off of Baldwin Highway to the North and West is also the 182 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,900 575 right away. 183 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:30,740 This is what the property looks like today. 184 00:14:31,820 --> 00:14:39,160 There are two kind of wooded stream corridors. We'll see that on the site plan a little bit more detail. 185 00:14:40,820 --> 00:14:49,560 There's also kind of see a pond in the middle, but there's property that's been used for pasture as well. 186 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Here's what the zoning looks like in this area. 187 00:14:56,660 --> 00:14:59,960 There would remain some R80 pieces in the cat. 188 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:14,840 County here, as well as, you know, you'll see the L.I. on the other side of Baldwin Highway, the two city properties on either end, as well as the city as annexed the 575 right away. 189 00:15:18,690 --> 00:15:30,410 This is what the future development map looks like. Remember, we have a kind of a shared map with the city, a ballground, so they have this area categorized as neighborhood living. 190 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:38,190 And here's the site plan that the applicant provided with their application. 191 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:42,990 You can see more detail of those stream corridors that I was talking about. 192 00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:46,350 Those have really been over time. 193 00:15:46,370 --> 00:15:49,150 Those have been really difficult thing to work. 194 00:15:49,230 --> 00:15:54,770 Work around when they've had residential applications for this property. 195 00:15:58,260 --> 00:16:03,600 The building is kind of in two pieces and then there's some loading ducks in this corner. 196 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:06,360 on the north end. 197 00:16:10,610 --> 00:16:14,850 The items that the staff identified in our staff report, 198 00:16:15,330 --> 00:16:18,310 you know, the city is working with Georgia power 199 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:21,290 to annex, we go back to the map. 200 00:16:21,970 --> 00:16:26,710 There's a piece up here directly north of this site 201 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:30,570 that would become an island if it's not annexed into the city, 202 00:16:31,010 --> 00:16:33,390 but the city is already working with Georgia power 203 00:16:33,390 --> 00:16:34,650 to resolve that issue. 204 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:40,050 And we also noted that the property is going to be served by city, water, and sewer. 205 00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:48,430 In support of this application, you know, this is on a busy area. 206 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:54,490 You have 575 on the north side as well as ballground highway to the south. 207 00:16:55,150 --> 00:16:59,010 That definitely is a high traffic area that might support that light industrial. 208 00:16:59,010 --> 00:17:20,150 There's a existing light industrial within the county across, across ballgun highway, and then the streams are really providing a significant amount of buffering, far exceeding that required 50 foot buffer between L.I. and our residential zoning district. 209 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:36,760 In opposition or things that don't support this proposal is that the light and industrial use and zoning is not really consistent with that character area from the future development map. 210 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:47,660 And then as well, you know, there's going to be adjacent residential development to this property. Those are existing neighborhoods. 211 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:52,700 So, that might be a source of conflict. 212 00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:57,520 So, those are kind of the highlights of this case. 213 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,340 I think it's kind of the end of my presentation. 214 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,400 I think we're ready for the public hearing. 215 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:06,840 Any questions from Australians? 216 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:07,860 Just done? 217 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,460 Thank you. 218 00:18:10,580 --> 00:18:12,360 The applicant will come forward, please. 219 00:18:18,580 --> 00:18:19,540 Good evening for the record. 220 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,400 My name is Park South with Sam's Locker and Huff. 221 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,400 And I'm going to make a short presentation and then reserve some additional time to respond to 222 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,760 any comments or concerns from the community. 223 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,120 I wanted to go through some of the elements that you're staffed at a good job of going through. 224 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:43,060 The first is just recognition of this property being between background highway in 575. 225 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:51,380 There's a mixture of different uses in this corridor area where you have some industrial light and industrial general commercial type. 226 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:56,880 use is and then you have some residential uses. The county's land use plan is actually gone back 227 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,920 and forth. At one time this was workplace center and then there were some concerns about 228 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,260 some areas that maybe should be residential rather than a workplace center. So then the county 229 00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:13,120 actually amended their plan, full-out workplace center, which would have been conducive with 230 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:17,420 light industrial, but in a neighborhood living, which is density of update in its breaker. 231 00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:25,320 So, that my client has had this property for many years and proposed many different versions of developing the property. 232 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:32,020 One of which is density consistent with residential density consistent with that neighborhood living in the county. 233 00:19:33,460 --> 00:19:39,220 And then there were concerns about too many houses in the traffic at residential producers. 234 00:19:39,220 --> 00:19:45,100 and so there was the general consensus that light industrial creates an opportunity for jobs 235 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:53,140 on this site and that the quite frankly, the layout with the way we're able to do the layout. 236 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:59,280 With the stream buffers, we can have a natural barrier between us and the adjacent residential properties. 237 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:29,680 And that's the reason why this proposals, before either day, it's a light industrial use. As you can see, as you enter off of a ballground highway, you have your parking for customers and employees, and then that would be your front of house if you will, your office area. And then behind that is your more flex space for industrial uses. As you probably know, you actually have some higher tech industrial uses that are coming in this area. 238 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:38,380 proximity to the airport, proximity to good power source, proximity to access to all the infrastructure 239 00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:46,160 that you need for quality, higher tech, industrial is in this area and attracting good businesses. 240 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:53,780 And that's what this proposal would do is be a great location to attract good business businesses. 241 00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:58,980 They can take advantage of the access to the inter-states access to all-ground highway 242 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:03,340 And that's the site plan we've got before you today, so I'm going to now 243 00:21:03,340 --> 00:21:08,900 reserve whatever time I have left and if there's community concerns I will address those two 244 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:12,880 Before you step on any questions 245 00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:20,640 Point question I had any specific use at this point in time 246 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,380 No, it is, 247 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,240 I've learned different businesses have different kind of how things work. 248 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:35,700 Light industrial spaces are almost all speculative when they're built, and then you have 249 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,220 right now. 250 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:41,800 There's light industrial uses that are wanting 100,000 square feet that's available right 251 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,020 now. 252 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:45,800 This is not available right now, but that's how that business works. 253 00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:50,660 So it's not as much when they want it, they want it right then. 254 00:21:50,660 --> 00:21:52,800 So it'll be built and then be built. 255 00:21:53,860 --> 00:22:00,180 So the eventual builder or user will respect these buffers. 256 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,440 Okay, so he's going to basically sandwich himself in between the two strings. 257 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:07,720 All right, thank you. 258 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:12,700 All right, anyone here to speak in favor of the application? 259 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,860 Please step forward. 260 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:21,190 Seeing none, is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition? 261 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:21,970 I 262 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:29,160 see a nine, I guess we'll close. 263 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,420 I could respond. 264 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,180 No, thank you. 265 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,180 You can respond. 266 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:38,020 And quite frankly, I, as a lawyer, of course, I could respond. 267 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:46,520 And my response is that sometimes the lack of people saying something speaks more than saying something. 268 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:52,080 In the fact that you don't have, and you know, you've done several cases up and down the section of a 269 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,640 around highway and usually people are concerned when things don't seem to fit in the fact 270 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,620 that you don't have people here are opposed. 271 00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:05,240 Let's you know that there's been some dialogue on Mr. Barnes went to a community input meeting 272 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,680 that we had and we've talked to all the neighbors and so I hope that they're not being 273 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,720 here as an indication to you as it is to me that this makes sense that fits in the area 274 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,140 and as a good use and we ask that you recommend approval is to city of 275 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:23,540 ballground as light dust, drill, screw, deposit. 276 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,740 Thank you. 277 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,500 Yes, that will close the public comment and open it up for discussion. 278 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:34,220 Questions? 279 00:23:34,940 --> 00:23:39,720 I'll start the discussion on this since it's my area up there, but I do want to hear 280 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:45,020 feedback from Russa, Planning Commission members, if needed. 281 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:54,540 So this has been an area as he said it's had different zoning that's been recommended for 282 00:23:54,540 --> 00:24:00,840 from heavy industrial to density housing, so to work down to where we are now on light 283 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,300 industrial. 284 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:05,960 Baltimore City ballgrounds trying to get a little bit more space and not lose that opportunity 285 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:14,920 to have light industrial on our area, so this is a good fit on that highway there and as you 286 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:21,340 that expanded and came into the city a while back so they're right across the street 287 00:24:21,340 --> 00:24:25,900 in some other light industrial and how this worked out even. 288 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,920 I think better for the city in the area also is that the stream buffers 289 00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:37,220 keep a nose intact and not crossing over into each other if it had been homes 290 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:39,980 that would not have occurred or be a lot more. 291 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,240 You know homes pushing up on the north end and the south end. 292 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:52,820 So with that, I think right now that this is a better fit for what's been recommended 293 00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:59,980 over the time have been in there, but again I'd like to, before emotion comes up. 294 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,140 If there's any other comments or feedback. 295 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:15,030 That's not going to be anything you just said. For the record, if we don't know what industrial 296 00:25:15,030 --> 00:25:19,930 I like to know that we keep the buildings between the streambuffers, so there's no chance 297 00:25:19,930 --> 00:25:26,350 that something is changed all the sudden that whole parcel gets built to be very edges. 298 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:30,190 I want to protect the boundaries that they are trying to offer us now. I want to kind of 299 00:25:30,190 --> 00:25:34,250 written into knowing that will be sustained to whatever happens in the future, knowing that 300 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:38,390 it's speculated, build, I want to have connect the control over that. 301 00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:45,410 Now, I understand, and if anything changed on that anyhow, it would have to come back through 302 00:25:45,410 --> 00:25:50,610 the process again for whatever's on there, but that's what we've got now is what we feel 303 00:25:50,610 --> 00:25:53,250 as a good commitment to it. 304 00:25:53,290 --> 00:25:59,270 And neighbors spoke to some of the surrounding neighbors, and that was a better fit for them 305 00:25:59,270 --> 00:26:01,210 as well, that they enjoy. 306 00:26:02,130 --> 00:26:06,630 I think it should be noted, if you had a, 307 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:10,230 looking at the entire site and it's entirely the 40 plus acres. 308 00:26:10,990 --> 00:26:13,610 If you had a residential development, 309 00:26:14,010 --> 00:26:15,750 even of moderate density, 310 00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:18,710 most likely you're having roads crossing 311 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:22,610 from one side to the other to fully access the site. 312 00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:26,690 Now those roads would be exempt from my buffer requirements, 313 00:26:26,770 --> 00:26:28,910 but they would still depending on how you built 314 00:26:28,910 --> 00:26:33,370 the roads that we acquire, Corps of Indian Air permits, federal permits. 315 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:42,230 So with this approach, it's, it's, you're going to forego that, I'll, that problem. 316 00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:48,170 So I would agree with the comments made to this point. 317 00:26:50,780 --> 00:26:54,200 You know, this is, this is a, it's a difficult piece of property. 318 00:26:54,360 --> 00:27:00,100 I mean, that's, that's been the problem in the past, as I understand it, you have two 319 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:08,200 streams, there's expanse, there's permitting time frames that are involved in developing 320 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,720 this. 321 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:17,160 So, you know, the county has a vision for light and some industrial along this corridor. 322 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,420 Here we have an opportunity. 323 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:27,960 The city is essentially sharing that vision and we have a proposal that seems to fit the 324 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:33,800 and respects the fact that we've got two streams crossing it. 325 00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:37,140 It seems like it seemed like it's a good fit to me. 326 00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:49,010 I've moved forward and I make a motion to approve this to L.I. 327 00:27:49,010 --> 00:27:50,730 Commissioner Barn makes a motion to approve. 328 00:27:50,890 --> 00:27:51,370 Is there a set? 329 00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:55,810 I'll go with a commissioner and the light on the first. 330 00:27:57,130 --> 00:27:57,630 All right. 331 00:27:57,630 --> 00:28:03,350 Those, and is there any discussion on that motion? 332 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:04,910 Any further discussion? 333 00:28:06,250 --> 00:28:08,850 All in favor, please indicate by saying aye. 334 00:28:09,490 --> 00:28:09,510 Aye. 335 00:28:09,970 --> 00:28:10,670 Any opposed? 336 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,090 Motion carries unanimously. 337 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:37,240 Our next case is case number 260900. 338 00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:39,740 This is Karen Lance for Tony Bittle. 339 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,760 It's a 5.91 acre piece of property on herd road. 340 00:28:46,060 --> 00:28:55,940 They're requesting to reason on the property from R80 to AG so that it can be added with the rest of the farm property that Mr. Little owns. 341 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,240 This is in the Commission District 1. 342 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,680 Here's kind of an overall vicinity map. 343 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:15,920 This is, you know, heard road, heads almost directly towards the airport from the roundabout 344 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:22,220 at the end of technology, which Parkway, this property is about halfway between that roundabout 345 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:23,900 and lower Bethany Road. 346 00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:31,620 So, you know, the pink that you kind of see, this dark pink, those are all areas, neighborhoods 347 00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:35,980 that are in the city, but this is kind of on the edge of that. 348 00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:42,200 It's still within the growth boundary, but it's on the way to the airport. 349 00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:50,910 There's a closer view, currently the property is fairly wooded. 350 00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:54,350 Mr. Little has a lot of pasture on his property. 351 00:29:57,710 --> 00:29:59,890 The zoning map in this area. 352 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:12,320 It has a mixture of AG and RAD. There's AG across the street, Mr. Little's properties AG already, but then there's 353 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,860 some RAD to the south and west of this property. 354 00:30:19,580 --> 00:30:22,560 The future development map puts this property in 355 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:29,820 suburban growth. But it is direct, you know, right on the line with the workplace center that we have 356 00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:31,380 located around the airport. 357 00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:38,670 Here is the survey that the applicant provided. 358 00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:45,390 If the property, there's a stream in this southeast 359 00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:47,910 corp, like edge of the property. 360 00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:51,750 I believe that stream or that ditch kind of becomes the property 361 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,430 line for a little bit, and then there's some drainage 362 00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:59,330 easements that kind of cross the property as well. 363 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:09,890 So, from the staff report, you know, as I mentioned, stormwater had comments about the original site plan, 364 00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:15,150 but those changes have been incorporated into that revised plan that I just showed you. 365 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:21,390 Things that are kind of in support of this application, you know, suburban growth. 366 00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:31,530 While it's primarily focused on residential, it does encourage preserving green spaces as transitions between residential areas and active agriculture. 367 00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:41,690 In addition, there's existing AG properties along herd road in opposition, you know, the agricultural 368 00:31:41,690 --> 00:31:46,490 uses are not particularly supported by its firm growth character area or the workplace 369 00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:54,570 center in this, you know, it's kind of the awkward situation where this gets combined, the overall 370 00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:58,650 property will kind of straddle, straddle the line between those two character areas. 371 00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:02,010 So that's the end of my presentation. 372 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:04,750 I think we're ready for a public hearing. 373 00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:05,470 The question. 374 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:06,390 I've got a question. 375 00:32:06,610 --> 00:32:09,130 Did the heart have a chance to look at this? 376 00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:12,770 Um, I don't believe so. 377 00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:16,250 Because it looks to me like the properties got a lot of trees on it. 378 00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:18,830 Are there any specimen trees on there that have to be protected? 379 00:32:19,650 --> 00:32:26,330 They weren't required to create an existing site resources map because they're not proposing the construction of any 380 00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:28,890 building or anything like that. 381 00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:32,450 That's why you know, so they can just clear up all the trees and. 382 00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:37,250 Well, I mean, there are agricultural exemptions in the tree ordinance for the creation 383 00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:40,770 of pasture and agricultural land juices. 384 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:44,190 That's why I was going to mention the exemption. 385 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:46,090 Oh, don't go ahead. 386 00:32:46,810 --> 00:32:47,330 Okay. 387 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:48,910 Okay. 388 00:32:49,090 --> 00:32:49,850 Any other questions? 389 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:52,370 All right. 390 00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:54,610 If the applicant will step forward. 391 00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:01,690 Good evening. 392 00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:07,110 my name is Karen Lance. Thank you for having me tonight. My office address is 2288 393 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:11,910 Mary at a highway here in Canton. Thank you for allowing me to speak and present the 394 00:33:11,910 --> 00:33:18,230 rezoning case of 5.9 one acres adjacent to 250 herd road on behalf of Mr. Little. He is on 395 00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:24,210 the property adjacent to this, this hundred acre farm that is currently zoned AG since late 396 00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:31,070 70s. He recently purchased the subject property, which I can go back. How do I know that one 397 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:35,780 there? 398 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:44,260 Just recently purchased this 5.9-1 acres to add to the existing form, the property that we are requesting to 399 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:50,400 zone is currently zone are 80 and we would like to add it to the farm enlarging the hay 400 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,320 production area that he currently has. So if you see here on the survey this strip right 401 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:02,180 here for some reason was taken off years ago and put with this. So we're adding that extra 402 00:34:02,180 --> 00:34:09,700 road frontage to the existing farm and adding this to the the hundred acres that we already have. 403 00:34:09,700 --> 00:34:18,740 And as Margaret mentioned, it would not be conducive to have this is AG and this is R80. 404 00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:25,040 Currently, it is suburban growth and we are workplace center, but there's no intention 405 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,220 for this to be a hundred-lot subdivision or a industrial park or anything, it's going to 406 00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:32,440 be a farm as it has been. 407 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,660 I've got a couple of questions. 408 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,920 So Mr. Little is on this property roughly 50 years. 409 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,100 More than 50 years. 410 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,480 So what agricultural activities does he have? 411 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:48,820 Occurrently on his house. 412 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,920 Mr. Wilkie. 413 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,660 I think some of the people around here know cuts hay off of there. 414 00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:57,180 And then before that, Mr. Heard had cut it for years and years. 415 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,320 That's been a hay field. 416 00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,980 So if you go up there next... 417 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,220 On any other non-agricultural activities going on in the adjacent parcel? 418 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,460 No. 419 00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:09,680 Non-agricultural? 420 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,400 Yes. 421 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:11,860 No. 422 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:12,840 Okay. 423 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,920 Why were the buffers established on this property? 424 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:20,880 What was the what? 425 00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:23,940 The stream buffers. Why were they established on this property? 426 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,540 The reason I'm asking that question by state law, 427 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:35,100 their agricultural activities are exempt from having established buffers, and they can also 428 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,940 county ordinance does the same. 429 00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:45,410 We've been from Stormwater requested that they be shown on the site plan. 430 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,890 He's just trying to make sure that they're identified. 431 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:49,650 Okay. 432 00:35:51,330 --> 00:35:55,810 So, but from our cultural standpoint, there are, you don't buffer, don't have any recognized. 433 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:58,970 You can disturb the buffer for agricultural purposes. 434 00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:02,630 similar to the question about the tree ordinance, you're exempt. 435 00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:06,570 I understand that, but that stream goes down on into the farm, and we've not touched 436 00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:09,950 that number 50 years, so we have no intention of touching this one other. 437 00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:12,790 Okay, I'm just asking the question, I was there. 438 00:36:13,370 --> 00:36:16,770 Okay, I'll have some other questions later. 439 00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:18,770 Thank you. 440 00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:19,290 All right. 441 00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:26,610 Anyone here is speaking in favor of this application, 442 00:36:29,460 --> 00:36:30,320 please step forward, 443 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,000 and if you would 444 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,400 Please make sure you stay at your name for me to write this down so I can't go away. 445 00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:48,680 Will you look at Jason to that and I agree with Tony's proposal and I know he's trying 446 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:55,700 to get that triangle of land and I trust that he's not going to clear cut it or anything like that. 447 00:37:01,310 --> 00:37:02,770 Hi, anyone else here speaking favor? 448 00:37:02,770 --> 00:37:03,410 I'm 449 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,800 a rural Derby and we on the property at 300 herd road, my son lives at 350 herd roads. 450 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,520 We're right across the street from there. 451 00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:27,200 We are in support of Tony changing this to agriculture. 452 00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:34,700 That's the best use of that land, the best use of what's going on in that neighborhood. 453 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:40,780 And if you've looked at the property, you couldn't build a house on it if you wanted to. 454 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:43,880 So I mean it's up and down and it's just, 455 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,280 it should be agricultural land to be in what the neighborhood is 456 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,320 and it is just not, you just can't be able to have stuff. 457 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,900 So thank you for your time. 458 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:56,560 Yes, sir. 459 00:37:56,780 --> 00:37:59,000 Could you state your name one more time for me, sir? 460 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,080 It's like a rural, dirty, rural, dirty. 461 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Thank you, sir. 462 00:38:12,580 --> 00:38:13,960 Anyone else here to speak in favor? 463 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,900 So you know, here's speaking opposition. 464 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:23,660 You 465 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,520 know, we'll close the public comment, you know, 466 00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:35,250 I have a couple of questions. 467 00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:42,490 Okay. I've walked the site. It is, um, 468 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,480 I'm not being really suitable for hey, which is the production, 469 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:55,780 which is the stated reason for this. And more importantly, there's no reason to reason it if 470 00:38:55,780 --> 00:39:00,460 wants to put hey on a property of our 80. You can do that without 471 00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:07,940 free zoning. The property roughly has based off the USGS 472 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:12,800 block sheets and my walking is about a two to one slope. The horizontal 473 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,720 slope versus the vertical, every two feet, horizontal and you go down on 474 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,180 about a foot, which is a 50% grade. 475 00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:25,010 Maximum safe tractor for a 476 00:39:25,010 --> 00:39:32,650 production is around 25-35 percent. Based on manufacturers that I've looked up, that's a maximum 477 00:39:32,650 --> 00:39:33,130 slow. 478 00:39:36,740 --> 00:39:43,500 What really troubles me about this site is not being used for agriculture. The joining site. 479 00:39:44,780 --> 00:39:52,900 Let me, let me provide a little detail. I reviewed aerial photographs from 1945 to 2026. 480 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,980 Up to 2000-05 this site in question is an agricultural force. 481 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,220 Prop. 2006, there's a major slight disturbance. Earth movement, grading, start filing, soil, etc. 482 00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:17,000 2007, it continues and there's still fences added and it continues to be disturbed up through 2009. 483 00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:25,660 Around 2009, the site becomes stable, it begins to stabilize and remains stable to 2015. 484 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:35,720 2019, excuse me, nine, after that, there's a significant sight disturbance coming on in 2017. 485 00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:43,460 There's a presence of two excavators, numerous dump trucks, land is being disturbed, excavated, 486 00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:48,360 stock, soil is being stockpiled. That's not an agricultural for use. 487 00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:51,770 This property that 488 00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:56,690 asking to be zoned is not suitable for the stated use. 489 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,000 In 2018-19 2021-22-25 and is 490 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:11,560 recently as 2020-6. This is still presence of excavators, dump trucks, stockpiles, 491 00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:19,140 or soil, land disturbance. If you look at the U.S. G.S. quite cheap from 1928-2024, you can 492 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:21,560 the changes in elevation that occurred. 493 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,840 I am not supporting this for rezoning classification. 494 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,420 On the surface it looks pretty benign. 495 00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:37,300 I was the first one to say, why are we here? 496 00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:38,740 Why are we even doing this? 497 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,820 Because this activity could occur if it stated 498 00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:43,780 that it could occur without the rezoning. 499 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,480 But when you start digging down into the details, 500 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:51,900 this life's not suitable based on the elevations 501 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:57,500 in defography and the joining property is not necessarily being used for agriculture, and 502 00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:59,480 hasn't been for the last 20 years. 503 00:42:01,490 --> 00:42:06,790 So what are we proposing to do here? I don't know. 504 00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:15,860 I'll offer that to the board, but I'm clearly not going to support this application going 505 00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:17,340 forward. 506 00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:17,800 Okay. 507 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:31,700 Well, my comment on here is that I do see agriculture use is happening because it's 508 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:39,460 hey, they're producing hay, I don't know, I don't know if it's two times of the year. 509 00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:43,140 But that part is in there. 510 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:51,240 I would assume if we're doing this parcel for further hay production that the trees are coming 511 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:52,160 out. 512 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:52,960 I would imagine. 513 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:58,140 Is do we know that for a factor? Is that with the 514 00:42:58,140 --> 00:43:01,360 But some are coming out to expand it 515 00:43:10,670 --> 00:43:13,930 because I think that's what a concern was one of the other neighbors was that 516 00:43:13,930 --> 00:43:19,320 That wasn't getting totally clear cut to their property or anything is it? 517 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:26,860 What do you imagine then the plan is for a tree buffer of how much like 30 feet 40 feet 518 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,080 the property that's being requested to be resolved. 519 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:54,940 Next door. 520 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:57,720 So this will be an addition to that. 521 00:43:57,980 --> 00:43:59,360 Can we have her come to the microphone? 522 00:44:03,370 --> 00:44:05,850 You're talking about the hayford action in a good year. 523 00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:08,450 It's been anywhere from four to five thousand bills. 524 00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:10,050 Per acre. 525 00:44:11,470 --> 00:44:12,530 So her one. 526 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:15,590 No, that's in total and that's at least one time. 527 00:44:15,590 --> 00:44:17,650 And we're getting at least three cuttings. 528 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:20,590 Well, if you look at the photograph right there, 529 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:25,590 you can see that this photograph is roughly somewhere around 530 00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:29,530 2009 thereabouts. 531 00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:31,490 This photograph you're here. 532 00:44:31,490 --> 00:44:34,770 If you go out there and look at it today in the current, 533 00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:38,670 you would see a lot more disturbance in the central part of the 534 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:39,550 joining property. 535 00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:44,390 So what I, my concern is this for your client. 536 00:44:44,970 --> 00:44:50,630 is using the product. He says he wants to put his hay on this property that he's asking for a 537 00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:55,790 rezoning. I'm saying it's not suitable because it has a 50% grade. 538 00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:59,020 The tractors aren't even 539 00:44:59,020 --> 00:44:59,980 That's not a sweet 540 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,360 They've already even operate a hay bailer, that's not saying that. 541 00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:12,680 Secondly, I'm looking at the e-drainagee statements that come in there, have a similar slope. 542 00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:22,220 There's like what that likewise. And I'm also saying the existing use may be hay in and around there, 543 00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:26,380 but there's other activities that are not agricultural related whatsoever. 544 00:45:26,380 --> 00:45:35,560 Do not appear to me. I was offering you to tell me what they were and so but I don't I don't know what they are 545 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,760 Okay 546 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,700 What are they you have a agricultural use you can move dirty on your side. You can 547 00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:50,920 We've been expanding the area for hey, so that's what's been new. I don't think I don't think that 548 00:45:51,460 --> 00:45:55,060 You've been doing moving dirt around for over 20 years 549 00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:56,960 You can do that on a farm. 550 00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:59,940 You can do that, but it's a large scale if you're doing it. 551 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,260 You're removing most of the site from a paper. 552 00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:04,900 No, you're not. 553 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,640 I'm not here to argue with you. 554 00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:10,220 I've looked at the record and I know what I see. 555 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,840 We're not going to be removing all the trees off the side that we're asking to have it done. 556 00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:16,320 We're not going to. 557 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,860 But if you again, you don't need a zoning to do what you did want to do. 558 00:46:21,020 --> 00:46:22,980 If you want to grow hay there, you don't need a reason. 559 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:31,420 But we want the rezoning to add it to the farm you're going to allow us to add this six acres to an AG zone and why not let us add it in there 560 00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:34,880 You don't have to do it. I have a question. There's no hardship to do this 561 00:46:36,580 --> 00:46:40,320 So you're going to add this to your date to combine it all 562 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,540 Yes, so we're going to where we have this the hundred eight almost hundred acres under one tax parcel 563 00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:50,780 This will be added to it because that was a whole reason we bought it was for that road frontage there 564 00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:52,920 because for some reason everything is 565 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,140 actually in conservation? 566 00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:55,320 Yes, conservation? 567 00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:56,060 No. 568 00:46:56,860 --> 00:46:58,860 Because it was about the same amount of money 569 00:46:58,860 --> 00:47:00,400 because he gets school tax exemption. 570 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,380 No. 571 00:47:01,460 --> 00:47:02,040 And it's his personal. 572 00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:02,940 All of it. 573 00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:05,960 Is it the 90 acres in tax conservation? 574 00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:06,740 No. 575 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,740 It's not in conservation. 576 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,820 No, we did not put it in conservation. 577 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,780 But whenever you do this school tax exemption 578 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:17,420 because that's his primary residence. 579 00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:19,960 So you get one or the other. 580 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,800 You can't do about 581 00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:28,650 it. Thank 582 00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:35,870 you. 583 00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:38,370 Anybody else have a thought question? 584 00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:40,770 I have a follow up question from the science. 585 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:45,750 So I just want to double check that we're speaking the same language here. 586 00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:47,850 The conservation use program. 587 00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:51,650 So for years, we had it in, I'm sorry I cut you off. 588 00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:52,590 You're fine. You're fine. 589 00:47:52,830 --> 00:47:53,030 Go ahead. 590 00:47:53,050 --> 00:47:57,290 For years, we had it in conservation for years and years. 591 00:47:57,850 --> 00:48:00,610 When he turned 62, 592 00:48:01,110 --> 00:48:03,830 So it was about the same amount of money. 593 00:48:04,330 --> 00:48:05,990 I think it money even been a little cheaper, 594 00:48:06,670 --> 00:48:08,110 because it's his homestead, 595 00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:10,310 and he resided there as a primary residence. 596 00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:13,250 It was cheaper to put it as his primary residence. 597 00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:15,270 And not have an incarceration. 598 00:48:15,810 --> 00:48:16,950 Because he got the school's access. 599 00:48:17,170 --> 00:48:18,070 I'm sure he can do both. 600 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:19,670 You cannot do both. 601 00:48:19,870 --> 00:48:20,470 There she can. 602 00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:21,010 She can't. 603 00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:22,150 I'm not. 604 00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:22,430 I'm not. 605 00:48:22,670 --> 00:48:22,950 I'm not. 606 00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:25,190 Well, okay. 607 00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:26,030 The tax. 608 00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:27,750 I'm just making sure. 609 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:34,570 accessor told us that we couldn't get a conservation, and the school tax exemption on a piece of property. 610 00:48:35,070 --> 00:48:39,270 Okay. Well, I'm here to tell you that's on my property, both. 611 00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:42,430 Okay. Well, I guess we need to get a visit to talk to you. 612 00:48:42,930 --> 00:48:45,370 Maybe it'll be a little cheaper now. 613 00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:50,710 Thank you. I just wanted to make sure we were all talking the same thing because that was confusing me. 614 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,100 Any other discussion? 615 00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,800 Is there a water resource on that piece of property that maybe they need? 616 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:15,380 Well, there it is a stream on the downstream, the downgradient portion of it, as you move away from the road. 617 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,100 We haven't had a lot of rain this year, so. 618 00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:19,500 No. 619 00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:21,440 Water resource would be nice. 620 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:21,780 Great. 621 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,200 Well, it's an intermittent stream. 622 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:29,380 You can, I don't want to get into the details here. 623 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,720 It's an intermittent stream. 624 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,580 It's seasonally. 625 00:49:31,940 --> 00:49:33,600 It does not for very rock. 626 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,080 Yeah, it's not flowing at the moment. 627 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,700 I 628 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:54,660 can understand why they want to have it deleted and all together and read them, so I'm going to make a motion to approve. 629 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:55,760 I'll second. 630 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,640 All right, motion by dolls and trustworthy. 631 00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:00,950 Second, 632 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:04,600 any further discussion? 633 00:50:06,970 --> 00:50:09,100 All in favour of that, please indicate by saying aye. 634 00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:16,850 Aye. All of those? No motion passes, eight to one. 635 00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:26,190 Okay, I missed your 72 and that was white side in Whitaker. 636 00:50:35,050 --> 00:50:35,050 Okay, 637 00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:39,830 let's get to our last case. 638 00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:56,520 Another ballground case. 639 00:50:57,340 --> 00:51:04,160 Case number two, 2026, the zero one Doug Strahl for KM homes. 640 00:51:04,460 --> 00:51:07,240 Location is 1065 Carter's Wall Street. 641 00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:09,360 It's in District 1. 642 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,220 The acreage is 9.12 acres, but this is not a rezoning. 643 00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:22,180 There are some things about the ball ground code that requires changes to density 644 00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:28,260 to go back through the rezoning process, but this is actually what we would consider a modification 645 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:29,500 to zoning conditions. 646 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:40,280 They want to increase the number of homes on the site from 38 to 42, as well as modify 647 00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:47,740 four conditions and remove one, and I have a slide that provides more detail on that. 648 00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:51,850 So here are the conditions. 649 00:51:53,110 --> 00:52:00,070 The first condition, they're modifying it to refer to their site plan as opposed to the 650 00:52:00,070 --> 00:52:02,890 that was used in the original rezoning. 651 00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:10,990 The second condition, they are just requesting that increase from 38 homes to 42. 652 00:52:12,570 --> 00:52:16,810 They're requesting to delete condition number four, 653 00:52:19,610 --> 00:52:24,830 and they are requesting to modify condition number eight, 654 00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:27,410 as well as condition number nine. 655 00:52:28,970 --> 00:52:54,290 There's site plan is slightly different than the original rezoning case and so there's some good reasons to make those modifications, but they are preserving these conditions that refer to buffering and fencing again adjacent to the existing neighborhood to the east. 656 00:52:54,290 --> 00:53:04,530 Here's the site, it is almost directly on top of the interchange at Halbridge and 575. 657 00:53:05,330 --> 00:53:08,750 There's an adjacent neighborhood called Lantern Walk. 658 00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:14,910 It's been there for quite some time, and the buffering that's referred to in the conditions 659 00:53:14,910 --> 00:53:19,550 has to do with that property line at the eastern property line. 660 00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:23,410 Here's a close review of the property. 661 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:30,890 There's an existing house on the Carter'sville Street front edge, but the rest of it remains 662 00:53:30,890 --> 00:53:33,390 wooded and undeveloped. 663 00:53:35,330 --> 00:53:40,510 Here's a clip of the city of Ballground zoning map. 664 00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:44,270 This piece has already been rezoned to RZL. 665 00:53:44,650 --> 00:53:49,170 The surrounding property is traditional neighborhood development. 666 00:53:49,170 --> 00:54:00,170 And the Lantern Walk neighborhood is part of that, as well as the medical office building that exists at the roundabout. 667 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:18,680 So here's the annexation plan that we received in 2024 that their original plan, when this was resowned, was to preserve that existing house on the road advantage on Cargarsville Street. 668 00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:32,460 The new site plan from a different developer is, you know, really where they're picking up the extra lots as right here where that existing home was located. 669 00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:40,250 So here are the notes that we produced on this. 670 00:54:40,290 --> 00:54:44,990 You know, it's what they're asking for is consistent with that RZL zoning district. 671 00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:53,230 The density is within that range for neighborhood living or urban core character areas. 672 00:54:56,050 --> 00:54:59,970 If you want more detail, you know, this modification allows them. 673 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,740 To go up to 4.73, dwelling units per acre, which is well within the six units per acre that's allowed in RZL. 674 00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:16,220 I mentioned the fencing and landscaping against Leonard Walk. 675 00:55:17,460 --> 00:55:29,860 In opposition, you know, those four additional homes will increase traffic on Carter'sville Street and we have heard a little bit about this in the past on this application. 676 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,520 So that's kind of the summary of our staff comments. 677 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,980 Can you go back to the various conditions? 678 00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:39,640 Sure. 679 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,140 Because these are the ones we have. 680 00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:42,720 It's one of make sure we can. 681 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,780 These are the ones we'll be considering. 682 00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:45,820 Correct. 683 00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:52,920 So there's one, two, four, eight and nine. 684 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,720 If we can lay that up, that'll be... 685 00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:58,860 Sure. 686 00:55:58,860 --> 00:56:01,900 So we'll know what we're all right. 687 00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:03,000 Thank you. 688 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,620 Is anyone here to represent the case? 689 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,180 Good evening Mr. Chairman. 690 00:56:15,860 --> 00:56:16,720 There was a planning commission. 691 00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:17,460 Ethan Underwood. 692 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,660 I'm here with Doug Strahl. 693 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,540 Regarding this application if I'm a. 694 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:22,800 Yeah. 695 00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:25,820 Presentation here. 696 00:56:25,940 --> 00:56:26,460 Thank you all. 697 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,860 I figured out this is my crutch. 698 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,780 I think that Margaret's given a good summary. 699 00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:37,040 The properties are already zoned RZL. 700 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,160 we are asking for a four to a lot increase. 701 00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:40,580 So we'll explain to you why. 702 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,840 As shown here, we do have the RZO zoning adjacent 703 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,380 to this traditional neighborhood zoning. 704 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,120 Important that we want you to know here, 705 00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:54,820 if there's a food line that's been installed at this area, 706 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,320 and there is a very steep topographical change. 707 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,100 It's about 20 feet in topo change. 708 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,300 That's important because one of the conditions 709 00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:05,160 that you're considering condition number four references 710 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,500 is an interparsal connection and we just do not, do not believe that is practical from 711 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:16,000 the progress standpoint. So putting this subdivision in here, you can see how the lay 712 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,580 end to Carter's Phil Street. 713 00:57:19,810 --> 00:57:23,690 Zooming in, what we have done is we are showing you additional 714 00:57:24,490 --> 00:57:30,210 or four extra lots up here at the front. And the condition modifications are almost entirely 715 00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:35,190 to match the new site plan. So we still want to accomplish the goals of the original zoning, 716 00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:38,150 but we do have to tailor it to the new site plan. 717 00:57:38,910 --> 00:57:41,070 So, this is the original site plan, 718 00:57:41,410 --> 00:57:43,690 and the intention was to keep that front area 719 00:57:44,530 --> 00:57:47,930 with an existing home, and in hopes that it would be maintained, 720 00:57:47,930 --> 00:57:49,250 and that would keep the, 721 00:57:49,930 --> 00:57:53,090 I guess, the past character of that, of a cardinal street. 722 00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:56,150 Unfortunately, this is what has become of the house. 723 00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:57,250 It's just not been maintained, 724 00:57:57,910 --> 00:58:00,150 and we don't think it's salvageable at this point. 725 00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:03,270 So we think it would be better to develop it this, 726 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:08,170 with houses that match what's been approved behind there and create a uniform 727 00:58:08,170 --> 00:58:14,570 insurance and a peer. So, again, this is the change. This is really the only 728 00:58:14,570 --> 00:58:18,070 area that we're asking to modify significantly and there's some site plan 729 00:58:18,070 --> 00:58:23,430 modification, just particularly with numbering. So, if you can read this, I know 730 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:28,310 that it's a small print. The biggest change you can see is in condition number one, 731 00:58:28,430 --> 00:58:32,990 is we are asking to reference a completely different site plan, where we'll 732 00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:42,590 site plan, the old conditions number two, number eight, and number nine, reference lots on the old site plan. 733 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:46,910 So we've just changed these to match and make sure that we're still preserving the intention. 734 00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:53,130 And then again, we are asking to eliminate condition number four because that topographical change. 735 00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:56,650 Obviously, that's something we've got to still work with the City Council in Margaret and about, 736 00:58:56,810 --> 00:59:01,370 as to whether they are agreeable to that, but we would submit to you that as in practical. 737 00:59:01,370 --> 00:59:10,230 So putting this into visual connotations, condition number eight, the original zoning required 738 00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:15,110 of buffer along these lots, new condition number eight, we just said it has to be between 739 00:59:15,110 --> 00:59:17,110 the right of way and all the homes. 740 00:59:17,410 --> 00:59:21,530 So that way we're not referencing specific lot numbers, but again, accomplishing the intention 741 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:22,790 of condition number eight. 742 00:59:22,790 --> 00:59:28,750 Condition number nine only required a fence along a portion of the lots 743 00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:34,770 KM homes is proposing to put a fence along all the lots on that eastern boundary 744 00:59:34,770 --> 00:59:40,870 So that actually extends that condition number four again. This is there was a kind of the 745 00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:45,730 Background city council wanted a connectivity there and in two dimensions it makes sense 746 00:59:45,730 --> 00:59:47,710 We're proposing that that is not viable 747 00:59:48,250 --> 00:59:51,610 So we will leave that to your discretion as to whether you want to recommend that. 748 00:59:51,730 --> 00:59:55,050 Well, obviously, we still have to deal with the City Council and what they're going to do. 749 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:59,970 But we would suggest to you that based upon the topography that that is a... 750 01:00:00,580 --> 01:00:02,800 Extraordinary hardship that cannot be accomplished. 751 01:00:03,820 --> 01:00:08,080 So, homes that are proposed on the site, they are planted very, very well with traditional 752 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,960 neighborhood's next door and the traditional architecture in the city. 753 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,400 So, with that, we hope may be back to the Chairman's point. 754 01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:26,100 That may be the most important slide for you all to consider. 755 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,180 We do request that you would recommend approval to the city. 756 01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:31,700 We are happy to answer any questions. 757 01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:33,920 and we will reserve any time that we have remaining. 758 01:00:34,180 --> 01:00:35,080 Thank you. 759 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:35,940 Thank you. 760 01:00:38,050 --> 01:00:38,650 All right. 761 01:00:39,230 --> 01:00:41,930 Anyone here to speak in favor of the application? 762 01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:46,980 So you know, anyone here speaking, 763 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,220 wish to oppose this application? 764 01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:53,540 I will close the public comment and open it for discussion. 765 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,720 I'll take the lead on this one again, 766 01:01:03,380 --> 01:01:06,320 because again, my area have been ball ground. 767 01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:16,080 We're in agreement on making these adjustments to the various conditions. 768 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,380 It had changed, like Mr. Armstrong would said, once the home was removed, it wouldn't 769 01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:23,180 be removed out of there. 770 01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:29,120 It was not viable to the neighborhood, so the property changed hands, so that's why 771 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:35,800 these things, they fit to what the adjustments that need to be made and remove those conditions 772 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:42,900 off and these will be heard by the city of ballground starting on this Thursday as well if this 773 01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:44,040 case moves forward. 774 01:01:50,620 --> 01:01:51,860 I know if I may. 775 01:01:51,980 --> 01:01:56,980 I noticed they actually add six parking spaces in this new site plan with they did not have 776 01:01:56,980 --> 01:01:57,780 in the previous site plan. 777 01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,240 I noticed I had a male Kiosk area. 778 01:01:59,300 --> 01:01:59,700 You're right. 779 01:01:59,940 --> 01:02:00,920 That is a better. 780 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,820 As a good bonus then that's a bonus. 781 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,480 It needs it. 782 01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:09,420 It's right now it says 24 driveways which as we debate that whole, well that's long enough 783 01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:11,940 for not, at least we have work parking. 784 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,820 I encourage them to actually add more, 785 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,420 cause it looks like you could add more a lot 786 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:18,320 along that southern, or I guess I should be western 787 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,360 boundary wouldn't it? 788 01:02:20,980 --> 01:02:22,040 Yeah, there's more down. 789 01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:23,580 There's more chance to add a 790 01:02:23,580 --> 01:02:25,240 three or four more down there. 791 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,460 I'd encourage them to let that happen, 792 01:02:27,980 --> 01:02:29,220 but for me this makes sense. 793 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,740 Any other discussion? 794 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:36,660 All right. 795 01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:40,520 So I assume we would just need to get through the first. 796 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,760 I think we need to go through each condition 797 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,860 and this, again, these are recommendations 798 01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:48,160 is that we'll go to the City of Bollground for their final approval. 799 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:56,600 So the condition number one is the new site plan by grading engineering, dated August 10, 800 01:02:57,420 --> 01:02:58,060 206. 801 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,300 And make a motion to approve condition number one? 802 01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:02,180 Second, the motion. 803 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,160 Okay. 804 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:11,760 Motion made by Barnes, seconded by Vance, all in favour please indicate by saying aye. 805 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:12,720 Aye. 806 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:19,020 any opposed motion carries unanimously. 807 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,300 Second condition two is to change the maximum 808 01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:29,900 lots from 38 to 42 homes and that's based on the 809 01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:32,880 great plan which is just recommended for approval. 810 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,760 So is there a motion for that? 811 01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:39,780 Make a motion to approve condition number two. 812 01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:42,620 I think I can do motion, motion 813 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,540 made by Commissioner Bores, I can do by Commissioner Vanceant, any discussion, 814 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,300 all is in favour of that motion, please indicate by saying aye, 815 01:04:05,380 --> 01:04:10,900 aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. 816 01:04:10,900 --> 01:04:18,660 Internal road lots of the lots that are on the west side of the new internal road on the west side 817 01:04:18,660 --> 01:04:24,620 there would be a ten foot undisturbed buffer that's condition number eight. 818 01:04:24,620 --> 01:04:27,340 I'll make a motion to approve condition number eight. 819 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:28,900 Okay. 820 01:04:30,620 --> 01:04:38,340 So, then we'll we're to the past two motion made by Commissioner Bars, I can go to Commissioner 821 01:04:38,340 --> 01:04:43,780 is that all in favor indicate by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, any opposed motion carries? 822 01:04:43,780 --> 01:04:52,980 In addition, number nine, private fencing slash landscaping behind units, one through 27. 823 01:04:53,260 --> 01:04:54,820 This is on the east side of 824 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,300 it. 825 01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,980 So if there's any discussion. 826 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,800 I'll make a motion, approve, condition number 9. 827 01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:14,100 Motion, may the commissioner bar, second, the commissioner, may as that, all in favour? 828 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:26,560 Condition 4 is to be deleted. That is the road step out. Is there a motion for that? 829 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:27,860 I'll make a motion move for you. 830 01:05:28,060 --> 01:05:28,380 All right. 831 01:05:28,820 --> 01:05:30,880 I'll second it. 832 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,180 Devin emission or below in literature. 833 01:05:36,260 --> 01:05:36,920 Measure in. 834 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,660 целcond. 835 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,400 Hollien-Favor, i, one. 836 01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:43,860 Hollien-Pos, motion carries. 837 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,220 Colleagues. 838 01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:47,360 Any other business? 839 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,400 I have just two minutes. 840 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,540 I did want to introduce our new zoning division. 841 01:05:56,540 --> 01:06:04,300 manager. I didn't warn him that's going to happen. His name is Sarah Brennan. Hello. 842 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:12,420 And he's had some experience in the private sector. He's worked for Pond for a little bit. 843 01:06:12,980 --> 01:06:15,100 And he also has public sector experience. 844 01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,340 I like you. 845 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,080 You know. 846 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:18,800 Welcome aboard. 847 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:19,820 You know what I mean? 848 01:06:19,820 --> 01:06:21,420 The opening comments come on. 849 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,080 Thank you. 850 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,860 Thank you. 851 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:27,320 Right. 852 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,300 Thanks for catching this. 853 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,800 I know you're really huge. 854 01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:33,740 I am. 855 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,200 It's starting to be more of a game. 856 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,920 It's not with me. 857 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,320 All right. 858 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,560 We have no other business. 859 01:06:41,860 --> 01:06:42,740 Motion through adjourn. 860 01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:44,080 Motion through adjourn. 861 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,680 I'm a glacier below. 862 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,300 I'll second. 863 01:06:47,540 --> 01:06:50,680 Second, my commissioner, trustler, all in favor. 864 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,320 Aye. 865 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:53,820 Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. 866 01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:54,620 Pose, motion carries. 867 01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:56,740 We adjourn at eight, forty-four. 868 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,020 How many cases next month? 869 01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:58,880 Three. 870 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,000 Thank you. 871 01:07:06,620 --> 01:07:06,820 Thank you. 872 01:07:06,820 --> 01:07:06,860 Excuse me. 873 01:07:06,860 --> 01:07:08,040 He's been a class student. 874 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:09,980 He's been a class student. 875 01:07:09,980 --> 01:07:12,320 How do you know about the student? 876 01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:13,540 He's been a class student. 877 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,480 He's been a class student. 878 01:07:15,620 --> 01:07:17,040 He's been a class student. 879 01:07:17,060 --> 01:07:17,460 He's been a class student. 880 01:07:18,380 --> 01:07:19,660 He's been a class student. 881 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,840 That man had a thing going.