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New principle, a new system principle, and a finance manager. So we had a business administrator, we're transitioning to finance, manager, all she's great.

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So we have Shedterstain Adams already principal. She was the assistant for the last year.

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She's such a great experience, energy, positivity. She's going to do such great things over there. So she's already principal, started already.

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And then we have Colleen Olsen, who has accepted our assistant principal position.

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She was a teacher in the school.

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Some folks might be familiar with her.

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She taught first grade.

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And cover principal certification.

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It was just such a good fit in time and time.

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So we're excited to have both of those individuals in the leadership positions.

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And then we have someone named Danielle and I don't know why her last name is.

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Let's get my mind right now.

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But finance manager, she was the assistant over at another district and she brings a lot of good

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positivity and just excite into the role and she's just excited to just dig in and she's like I can't wait to just talk about things

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We've been doing another district in ways that we can improve and maybe find ways to save and certainly or so

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It's gonna be good. I think overall. We've had a pretty big turn over over there and I'm excited and I know others are as well

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Also with staff in, I think right now, one of the only positions that we're actively looking for is a second grade teacher.

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We just filled that third grade position from somebody who's in the community,

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John 14 years at Danville. She's going to be awesome in third grade.

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So right now we're looking for just a second grade teacher at the moment.

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So a lot of big changes, let's get a positive changes that are coming our way.

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Um, for folks that have listened to these meetings or seen on social media, there's a

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couple of big bills that launched the governor's desk at the past.

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We're waiting for assignment.

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She wasn't going to sign up.

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She actually did not sign bill 1610, which would not allow us to carry that routine fun and

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to send money back to taxpayers.

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She can come back and give money back to taxpayers.

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We were trying to do that.

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But from a build perspective, that would put districts, just to our size, with districts in general, a very tight position for emergency expenses and things like that.

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So she did not sign that, we had a couple meetings in June to proactively try to figure out our finances and maybe pull things forward and maybe get some projects done, and this might be a question for the group.

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maybe not answer now, but just talk to think about,

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is we did, we did pull money forward from fun balance

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for those rules project.

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We got Bids on it, and we chose Lane Roofin,

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which came in at 175 grand, which was pretty loud.

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One of the lower kids.

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Now, we did make that motion contingent upon

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if 1610 was passed.

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So, we,

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absolutely the next, should we?

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use that and what we did the motion for should we put it from a game fund and not do so.

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I think that's something we might want to all discuss, again, we don't need to have a 20 minute discussion now.

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What you want to do.

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But what section of the roof was a refreshment.

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Yeah, so if you're looking at Chester Academy, you got the gym, right?

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Which has the Chester Academy and it has all the green flashing.

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That is a flat roof that was done three or four years ago.

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And then you have over the main entrance or like administration sets, then you have to the right, it's like a, it's a T, that's where all the classrooms are.

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That is what we're looking at.

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So if you notice the biggest piece, we've had, we've had repairs over there and leaked it at one point and we repaired it.

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Some of the shingles started flying off with some of the wing that we've had in this past winter and spring.

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So, um, it is...

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Holds that life, 26 years old?

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Yeah, it's like a cable.

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I'll take, yeah.

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I'll

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test shingles on it currently.

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And we were good.

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And we got a quote that was going to,

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I was just going to be new architectural shingles.

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Higher quality ones.

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We made sure that built in that quote.

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We didn't want the kind of lower quality CKO or the other ones.

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We were getting like a moment's corner and 50 year warranty ones.

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So, how much was in the roof fund right now?

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Um, I don't have to be exact figure. It was, it was up there. Um, it was six figures I believe I don't

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always do with 100 something I don't really believe. Yes. So, do we know what the delta is between

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what's in the fund and what we would have to pull out? Um, Danielle's running all of that currently.

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So we did look at that. I think it might not be a ton that we have to pull out. Um, that big

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that we got the quote is good for 60 days.

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We have a little bit of time before we have to actually

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make up our minds and say, right, Lane, you know, is that 175 still good, assuming could be a little more of a good shift to fly what it has to be replaced, but yeah, I have that hour and now to see what the Delta would be.

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Um, and going to be anticipate.

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Originally doing the group.

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When is it missed it?

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I don't know.

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Within the next.

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Some of the damage based on the shingles that started flying off recently.

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Um, there's no active leaks knock on wood.

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But you know, we are in a proposition where we have a foist now on the roof and dead of winter, you know, that's what we were trying to avoid with active leaps because right above there is the older kids on the second floor, and it would be going to be good for the work.

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And with the quote, they could do it this summer.

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You can always be able to get it done by school.

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If you're able to get it done by the fire, let's start a school.

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So we're just waiting basically to figure out if we're going to get it done.

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The thumbs up and figure out what the Delta is based on what we have in that work.

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And out of the ending year balance.

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We talked about that as well.

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we're still waiting to figure out what the end of the year balance is.

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Based on some open invoices that we have.

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Danielle is going to pull that.

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Hopefully that's week.

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We were chatting for a question today.

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I will have, I know Rob is asking for it, and I will have a better breakdown of numbers and I can send out probably by the end of this week.

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Did you get it to bid before July 1?

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Yep. Oh yeah, so we have everything all done and motioned before July 1 and K-16 had was signed.

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You just don't need to worry about that.

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You've done this before.

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Okay.

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So that's where we are currently with the roof piece, and then we're trying to figure out

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end of year, you know, we're roughly 600,000 ish, which included retain fund, because that'll end of your balance rules right back in.

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So we're trying to figure out what that looks like. We have,

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we're going to be talking a little bit more about that.

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But I do have Danielle, we're on a number, figure out what we're finally going to do.

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And the playground fund was like 55. That goes back. That was back. We did the camera. So we had to replace that camera because the, you put the playground was blocking some. That was completed.

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That is being sent back.

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It seems like an opinion, it seems like a radio lineman, it's not like, oh, we didn't expect to do this for another 12 years.

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It was on the blast like that.

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There were almost a couple of years ago to pull it forward.

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Right.

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With all the weeks and that we were at that time, I think the prior board was way in like doing it.

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Trying to just fix it.

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Does it still have something like, and then I would say from a capital firm in perspective like that is probably number one priority.

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like we have money in the book in the boiler fund for last war and charcoal. We got that in fact

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there recently not God would it's doing pretty long ago. So I would say give it in and why is

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like if there's anything that's actually going to go it could be the word.

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So it makes sense to me to get it

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that if you

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mix the structure of the answer structure. Yes, it's not like a, I can't have it.

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It needs to have. Yeah, you don't want to do anything.

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You're stuck getting water and then you end up with

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big abilities now that were replaced and we, you know, we, that's what we're concerned about,

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like, can you get it done before the school year? It has he really done a lot of bigger projects.

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And he has he's done a lot of just pull buildings and free money and expand out to maybe

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a couple of other ones. And he's used him a 50 year warranty single and he has 20 years of

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more campworkmanship, which a couple of other folks only have a five and a 10 year.

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And how did they compare to the other bits of cost-wise?

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It was pretty low.

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I mean, I think the closest one about that, that's probably another very, very grand opening on that.

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But it was significant enough for like, okay, this might make sense to just pull the trigger now.

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So here are point-run rather than the branch angles that are not under shape that are flying off,

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and we have the money.

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If that don't does not shoot it, we might be able to just kill it.

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So we're going to be talking about that as a board.

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Is there a third section of the group that will need to get a question?

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Jim Flatworth, the T, and then in the middle is more like a game, I guess you would say

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a different game of group.

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That would be a major place eventually.

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That once every time I've got to include that.

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That's a better shape because that's not sitting in the tunnel dang and going to beat

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up out in the open.

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There's some trees and covered over the middle, but that was still need to be a future project.

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project. They may have that to do jingles on just the, like, front

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happened. Yeah, they used this, the front, the front, the front, the rear, yeah. I think so,

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I think you're right. But now, on board, we haven't seen any after we

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used or anything on that piece. Depending upon what you finish the year with, you know,

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using more of that, you know, leaving the roof, the fund is robust as possible, knowing that you're

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going down in probably another six or seven.

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Exactly.

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Yes.

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Another fun is the root fund.

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Whether it's the one we know which one.

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Or the, I'll say, the administration section in the middle.

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This never guarantee at the end of the year.

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Depending on what happens.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So it was an interesting tune.

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But everything going on is a lot of meetings that we had to have.

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So, but I would say luckily it wasn't signed, but I think it would put some stress on

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districts.

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I don't know if we're just trying to think about it, but it would be interesting to see

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what would happen.

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And we're still, and then the tax cap one.

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I think that's 1300, the tax cap.

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I think she signed that yet, or vetoed it.

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I think that's still out there.

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That was not the one we saw about that could put it that might and that's another thing to talk about right

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It's like how's that gonna affect districts right you have a three four five percent cap based on

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local CPIs what we've heard

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but what do you do when

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Oh, here's a 15% and electricity is that 12% and it's like

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How does that set this stricks up?

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Yeah, I mean there's certain

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With the school, there's only certain amounts of costs you can actually control.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But a lot of it's fixed costs.

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We'll always continue, you know, bottom line budget and see in ways that we can maintain,

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you know, and we're not trying to swing for the fences and ask for a ton of things.

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But it'll be interesting to see.

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If you have it, I'd be curious to see the job description of the finance manager versus the business administrator,

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you're just at curiosity of what the roles and responsibility differences are?

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Yeah, I can definitely see what we have for like Cluster, the erect versus the one

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that we just posted.

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You come sorry if I missed it, but did you actually get a final cost for health care this year?

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I know that too.

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Oh, from health trust?

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I think they gave us quotes based on the different plans and tiers and it was drastically

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more than school care. At first, it seemed promising that we were all talking back and like,

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I don't know, Christmas time frame. Maybe the town gets on, this and that and it might not

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benefit the school, but the premiums are looking pretty dark and similar. I guess it was not

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Christine's like, it's not even worth bringing at the moment, but we're going to continue to

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monitor that and potentially look at other health insurance providers, if something does happen

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on the road at school here again.

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We're open to there's going to be no other assessments,

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but that was tough last year to paint that 200,

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12, 200, 12, that's what I'm going to

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do.

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And sadly, that was one of the better bills.

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Um, I think that's how I had my notes.

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There you go, several of the numbers.

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So just from a takeaway for my homework,

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we'll figure out the delta on the root piece.

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I'm going to figure out the last piece of the lake

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I found Cree, I got your input on the roof,

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and then Supreme Beach office description

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at Finance Manager versus BA,

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and then I don't know numbers, five numbers, perfect.

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Can you have the questions?

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I'm gonna go ahead and go away back to the beginning.

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The new VP, you said she came from the school?

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Yes.

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She got her certification, so she's been in the school.

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Yeah.

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She's all tied, so she knows the flow.

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So she was at another district prior,

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She's been at our school.

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I think this is her 4th year.

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She's pleading.

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And, you know, I had the privilege of seeing her as my kid's teacher this year.

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She's just so great.

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And I think, I think it's going to be a really positive thing.

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Love, sir.

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Faculty.

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It's going to be.

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Very good, and I know her, and the current principal, Tristina, or already, you know, chat on, rolls, responsibilities, and who's responsible for what, and accountable, who needs to be informed, and, like, I didn't know what we're seeing next right now, but it's going to be good.

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Any other questions?

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Comments on school.

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Okay.

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Over to you, Sarah.

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Okay.

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Well, let yourself, towards the end of the year, you did this a lot of action and involvement,

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meetings and whatnot and some clear directions of stopping the spending that's in the year

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as well as the early year we did have reductions in staff.

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So given all of that and when we are watching different budgets, we came in as we added the

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$595,000, sorry, from the, went to maintenance fund, and then we had $27,000, there was

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still had a legal fees from those. So we rolled those into it, $95 was from fire in the

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background.

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I'm sorry, $105 was from the, went to make this $105. $27 from the legal expense

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line. So when we added those back in and started where the budget was, we ended up at this point

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$6,000 to the positive, $6,500, whatever. However, that being said, there are still some bills

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that we know that they have to be invoiced or have to be finally processed. Like yourself,

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this and still things are just a wrapping up.

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We don't think it's a whole lot, maybe in a 10 grand or something of that nature.

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So we do have still the ability to take up to 100,000,

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but I don't think we're going to take much more than a few thousand balances off.

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You think the risk will be in for the money, so you'll actually end up being all for budget for the year?

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Yeah. You know, it was 150,000 more than that.

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get it actually to use a little bit more than that.

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Just in that one line, I am further deploying it and whatnot.

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And then if you look at some of the other areas,

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you know, we just, we needed that to go into this.

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We're going to have to tap into it, but we won't be too much for it.

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Oh, a bunch of stuff.

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Yeah, okay.

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So given that, we think that we can wrap that up a few weeks.

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And whatever we pull in there, anything that residual of that underage is just going to roll back right into it.

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So we're going to be adding any new costs to that.

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You know, Paul's been very good at keeping us up to date along the way.

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He's done a good job making the numbers work as much as possible.

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Thank you for seeing that. Because it is just jumped into it today.

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you know, this year it's new for you. And he hadn't done this before. And in some other

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reports that we asked for it never run before. So between him and you know, in carry now,

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you're getting up to speed and you know, they get an information, but it's still, it's still

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a little bit of curve for both of them, but we're getting there. So with that I think that we started

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in the new fiscal year and we are already letting people know that there's a schedule

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that is set down with Angela and she's put together a schedule like she sent it to you already.

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So we're going to try to make sure we're staying in with this or it's not ahead of that.

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The message you're going out certainly is that we want to start the year so what do we

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end it?

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really looking at the budget's very, very hard.

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And try to stay as flat as we can through the process.

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There's some areas that we probably should put more money

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into as we start to look at more and articles,

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like roads itself.

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We're still getting a lot of pushback and complaints

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about some different roads.

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So we'll look at that.

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We know that that's been undefunded for a number of years,

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but you know, when a local crazy on that,

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but I think that's probably as we look at it,

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that's one of the key things for us to do.

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Obviously,

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the highway in the maintenance of our key,

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there are more expenditures for us as a town.

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We're asking every department to give us a strategic plan.

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Generally, there's been given us a budget

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and a department plan for one year.

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We're asking them to, everybody look at it and let me tell you that there are no surprises.

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We got surprises at the end of the year for new schedules and rates and whatnot and increases

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of salaries and whatever.

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It was a number of different things that sort of at the end that came up.

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We were able to fund them in different ways and meet the budgets fairly well, but I think

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over all we're going to be a little stricter this year and starting off and we're making sure

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that if there's any expenditures we want to know. We're asking every department to give us

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a cease plan so that we can make sure it lines up with our CIP process. We're also sitting

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down with the maintenance folks and going to each of the buildings and asking each of the

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for it closely and see where that fits into our programs.

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We'll be looking at staffing.

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We'll be looking at a number of different things here.

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Early in the process, rather than later in the process,

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just to be able to get a contract.

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We hope to get, you know, in sync with you guys right away.

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And if we can stick to the deadline and, you know,

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make sure we're holding everybody feel firm.

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I think that, you know, a lot of much more transition

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that she had to get to the blood process.

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Do they do zero-based budgeting?

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Or do they start with the prior budget as their foundation?

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You know, always they're given the last year's budget, right?

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So that's the starting point.

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And I think that that is where we're going to ask them to do this year.

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But I'm the selecting yet it.

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It kind of gone through that.

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But they haven't gone through it to a point where they've looked at what didn't they expect.

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And that's generally where we start right away, okay.

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What you've got in access that you didn't spend or you won't be spending for the fiscal year,

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and trim your line items out of it.

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And which ones have you over-expedited because you didn't account for something?

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And so just spend more time with them and understand their own budget, have them understand it rather than it comes to

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and take it. We have to then, okay, go back and say, this isn't working. A 20% increase is not going to fly.

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You know, we got to be in, you know, less than the five to three percent just at the start and not the game.

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So, that's where we are. And, you know, with that, the lay-as-ons have been told that it's just down with each of the departments and come up with the goals.

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You know, what is the thing is that you want to see the accomplice issue? And, you know, let's get it in on paper and so that we can see what we really need to do.

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And there are some areas that we know, for example,

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towards the end of the year, even this parking lot between the culverts and whatnot.

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We've given the go ahead to get these manholes taken care of right away.

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We've got a price on there, it's surveying, and we're a wooden that to get started.

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And I'll also just start in some discussions today with Angela on the contract.

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because we have to be able to get the engineering services done in the next three to four months

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so that we'll have some numbers for the drainage of this part of the building.

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So let me, I want to make sure I understood all of what you just said.

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So you're going to do the tactics on the drains themselves.

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Yeah, because they're collapsing.

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and then you're written up and ready to go out for the bid for the engineering work for all of that.

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So that we have it so that we can write the word for the next.

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Yes and no. So we've got some engineering understanding at this point.

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We still need to have the engineers come in and show them what else we need to do over here.

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So the scope is going to change a little bit.

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We, a big number of get thrown out last year without any engineer behind it.

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So what we need to do is now sit down with survey and the engineer that we're going to select.

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And we haven't done that yet, but we'll do that within a week or two.

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So then we'll have them come here and really look at what modifications we need to do, especially

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around the gymnasium area, multi-person control for a lot, for the water, where it's coming

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up, you know, deepening to the building in the side, so the engineering scope will change

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a little bit.

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I don't know what that'll do for the cost, but we have enough as we move some money's

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last year.

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We'll have enough of the engineering to be completed and give us a good cost estimate so

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that we can start planning that in the CIP and make sure that whole project is identified

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So did you write up a scope of work and then send the scope of work out of the goods to get in an area of the country?

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No.

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So how do you have an engineer?

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We have three engineers on staff.

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Okay.

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We have a boiling king.

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We have underwood and a gale.

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So three years ago, I had them go out and get the consultants that we need for the different services.

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So we did call vacations and entry schedules.

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So we will be asking those three two questions.

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One, do they have the time to do it in the next three to four months,

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and make sure that we get somebody that can do it.

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They're all qualified to do the work,

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but really can they jump on it right away.

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And, you know, with us to modify the engineering a little bit,

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that a little bit of time, you may have to put a test board or something in that part of the bill that part of the property, but.

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So that we have some discussions also with maintenance as well as James, but who can oversee some of those things as we go forward.

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They all have construction engineering or construction capabilities, but that we want to make sure that we're tying their capabilities also

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and with making sure that we're getting the services.

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We need to.

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You said three, four months.

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That's just the engineering.

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Yes, and then you said the orange will help.

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So this is not going to be done until 12 months or about 13, 14 months, okay?

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That's, and that's why we kind of back on the warin' article going out because there was too much flux in the numbers.

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So we left enough for the engineering and the fix, especially for the collapsing drains.

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So

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they're just going to call us on the existing drain and rely on the pipes that are there.

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For the most part, yes, some of them on this one in particular really collapsed pretty badly.

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So they're going to have to rebuild that one a little more.

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The price is still falling in the bottom of the bottom.

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The bottom.

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Now the bottom's going to all of them are okay.

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They'll need to build a collar on the top.

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Yes.

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They may have to put a concrete as well as some brick work, and then a new great, one of them in particular needs a new steel grate on top of it.

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So, they'll bring them up the grate because they're all subsided at this point.

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And that's about a $10,000, so still they'll have a significant amount of money for the engineering for that aggressive,

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and we should cut into the island more into wider.

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That's what's mean.

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What are we going to stand there in elections?

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And that would include getting the road in the back or down the side and then additional parking.

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That's the goal that to be able to continue that engineering to give you the quote.

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Yeah, we want to make sure we get the drainage correct.

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Whether we add more parking at this point.

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So we go on with installed drainage so that you could put parking there a future day with some.

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Yeah.

401
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Yeah.

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Fix that side.

403
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Yeah.

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It's the fun as well as that whole side.

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So we're probably going to need to extend it if you get a put parking back there.

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I'm going to pull it away from the building.

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So that's what we stand on that.

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The annual is actually working on a number of different policies.

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to go on forward, I'm going to make sure we're going to stay pretty tight on the new

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bits, if anything, over 5,000, trying to make sure we've got the three bits, unless

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it's a uniquely qualified vendor.

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And we have started on the matrix itself, as far as what that is, we will be reaching out

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really soon to several different communities to really look at where these communities are in

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relationship to ourselves.

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We're going to try to make sure there is close to the types of services, the population,

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ideally if we can find those that are also not heavily business-related, you know, you

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can pay to Raymond and Raymond as a lot of business system and then in those others.

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So, we can put this in the same category, but we've six or seven communities right now,

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we've put a list together, we'll be reaching out to them and we'll be discussing that for them.

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You know, the intent is to clean out the dangers.

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We have at this point, and we have a policy on the matrix that we're going to be hearing to that policy, at least for this year, and it depends upon what we find here. There's no way we're going to be able to make any significant changes on the matrix in one year, you know, if it's required.

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If we're in pretty good shape and pretty competitive around the area, you may not see much change on those numbers, but

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Until we

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Participating in that right now. I'm just having discussion with you, and okay, and

425
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You know as we open it up and really look at what data we need

426
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You know somebody want for the committee. I want to be part of it on everybody else

427
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It's free.

428
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I don't raise your hand very quickly.

429
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I've been asking for three years since today.

430
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We haven't done anything so interesting.

431
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:04,400
We all have our last five years.

432
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Maybe more than three.

433
00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:12,220
Well, I think that you're hot button is a good segue, I think, too.

434
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I think we all have one, right?

435
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And the same thing with the select board as well as the departments.

436
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And that's kind of what I want to try and get out on what the goals are for each of the departments.

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And I'm going to call it hot buttons, but I'm sure that I wouldn't let the goals for the things we need to do to fix,

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at least what we have, anything that's not warping well.

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And then anything we want to make sure that we go into a line of improvement in the beneficial management.

440
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So that's part of the public goals with us

441
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once you have the word, no.

442
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And what you need to do, is that, so part of that,

443
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I'm assuming that, I mean, it's part of this

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strategic plan, is that, like, for this fiscal year,

445
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or as part of all that kind of built in, like,

446
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the department's overall mission, you know,

447
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year after year, I mean, it's a standard mission,

448
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and then this strategic plan,

449
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:09,480
are you thinking about building out, like, budgeting?

450
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,160
As part of that, for planning, too, it's, you know,

451
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
We're going to pay us thinking like a five year, three or five year plan.

452
00:32:16,780 --> 00:32:21,480
You know, yeah, I've been here seven years and very seldom to any of the departments

453
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,900
have a look beyond one year.

454
00:32:24,220 --> 00:32:28,060
And so, and that's a difference between a department plan and a strategic plan.

455
00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:32,960
Strategic plan is we're going to ask them to do at least the seven years and I want to

456
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,660
know it's a staffing and what they might look like and we will actually then bring that

457
00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:44,160
the other for the entire town, municipal, all of them, so we cannot let see what kind of an

458
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,300
organization we have at this point. We're like, we're we're heavy, those types of things,

459
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,500
but what's anticipated, whether there's some growth or reductions that are needed through the process,

460
00:32:55,980 --> 00:33:02,380
but we want to really engage the departments to get them thinking about what are they going to need

461
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:09,260
in seven years of now, whether it's dollars, or people, or equipment, you know, whatever

462
00:33:09,260 --> 00:33:10,020
might be the case.

463
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,900
What trends are you seeing that a problematic force, or opportunities for that matter?

464
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,240
Opportunities that, I mean, that's a SWAT analysis and that's for opportunities in any

465
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,080
ways to improve.

466
00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:23,260
That matrix, too.

467
00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:27,840
I mean, I mean, though that into the plan as well as that, it gets continue to work on

468
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,380
updating that.

469
00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:32,020
You know, at this point, the matrix, we're trying to make some, we're trying to get

470
00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:39,860
So it's municipal and whether we stick to a matrix or go to something different, I think, you know, that's that's part of that continuous improvement.

471
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,340
I think for the short term, you're going to look at this for this year.

472
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:49,680
The police, the Barb movement and the fire department, they like to be able with different schedules here and whatnot.

473
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,580
And asking the same thing, you know, the fire department came to us at the end of the year.

474
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,860
Well, actually, a little before that, probably three months before.

475
00:33:57,860 --> 00:34:04,260
But after we had already submitted the budgets and wanted increases across the board, we said,

476
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,220
no, they didn't, you know, they stole it in the process.

477
00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:13,460
You know, they're going to start right away at this point to say, but we wanted that justification.

478
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:15,680
All right, what is the justification?

479
00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:20,520
How do we compare it to their towns, other towns, whatnot?

480
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:29,320
So, yeah, it's a part of it, and then looking at, to provide the services that we need,

481
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:37,220
that the fire department actually needs some more, or they need an officer, or something like that,

482
00:34:38,420 --> 00:34:41,300
which they should have something in their plan here.

483
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,820
This next year, we'll be looking for that.

484
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:50,940
But, you know, that's really how do we get to the staff and the team need neither from within or without.

485
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:54,600
That would be important if you do want to do more in highway.

486
00:34:54,980 --> 00:35:01,100
You know, I mean to understand that that picture looks like it can prevent any spikes,

487
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,920
knowing that it's in the out years will help you better tailor it,

488
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,520
but if you decided to do more on the highway side.

489
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,300
You know, I think the high was always the big one, right?

490
00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:14,160
You know, we talk about actual costs.

491
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,500
We close to a million dollars, you know,

492
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:20,440
without the more radicals in there.

493
00:35:20,740 --> 00:35:23,020
The more radicals, you know, we're in a million dollars.

494
00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:28,300
If we look at the CIT, we should be in the two and a half to three million dollars

495
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:33,260
to fill all of the ones if they do the roads that they identify

496
00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:35,340
with the prioritization they've been there.

497
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:36,560
It's a big number.

498
00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:44,200
And we're not dead, we've never been there, but so what we really need to do is look at that CIP much closer.

499
00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:49,860
And what are the roads we really need to do and what are some of those costs involved?

500
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,160
Some of them are big.

501
00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:52,280
Talk to the laying road.

502
00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:53,320
That's really unbelievable.

503
00:35:54,020 --> 00:35:58,280
The top part is that it's revolving door in a way.

504
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,780
It's just that every year.

505
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,320
I mean, there's going to be more and more rows every 20 years.

506
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,240
You're going to come across the same road, right?

507
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,020
Yeah, cycle.

508
00:36:05,020 --> 00:36:14,680
Yeah, you know a lot gets talked about about how do you change that cycle and you know, don't don't accept any new rows for any new developments

509
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:25,310
It's been one of those things or you know looked for better ways to maintain or do you spend more money up front to get a longer lasting to spend more money in

510
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:31,160
annual maintenance and getting out on them sooner

511
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:37,800
You know, I think at this point, James and even Mike before that, we're still drinking

512
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,520
through that fire.

513
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:44,260
It was behind so much, and it's only been a few years that we started getting it up

514
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:45,680
into the million dollar range.

515
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,260
And when you have roads that are in two, three, four million dollars for one project, and

516
00:36:52,260 --> 00:36:57,120
even halls, villages, a couple million there, we're over a million on cold this year.

517
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,280
You know, it's not going down in now.

518
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600
If our oil prices continue to grow up, it's not going to get any better.

519
00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:06,560
So, a couple of questions on the goals.

520
00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:10,120
Are you also asking them to provide KPIs?

521
00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:13,420
And it's the measurement against the goals.

522
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,940
How do you measure it?

523
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:18,200
How do you really, you know, talk in that detail?

524
00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:22,620
I'd be a strong component for it.

525
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,940
If you're going to put goals together, you have to be able to measure it.

526
00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:27,620
Yeah, get, get, get slowly.

527
00:37:30,270 --> 00:37:38,110
And then if I can switch, how are we on, you know, the war radical for the truck?

528
00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:44,300
Are we looking at that? Where we had that grant?

529
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:51,860
The truck? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And the order is in on the, the order is in on the 550. We have that.

530
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:59,520
The, the other truck I think they're still looking for the final cost and that one.

531
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:07,660
And it's a reimbursement, so we still have to, and know that one, we got to destroy the other vehicle.

532
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,840
Right, but we can sell it twice.

533
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400
We can sell it while we're the sand of this associated with the other vehicle.

534
00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:19,820
Or use that and put it on the truck supply by less.

535
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:27,320
And the truck will come without all that stuff, so.

536
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,840
Okay.

537
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,580
So James is moving on the most.

538
00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:33,200
You're ready?

539
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:34,980
All right.

540
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:36,020
One more question.

541
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:40,240
On, see I let the people that felt fast.

542
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:41,680
You do a good job, Kathy.

543
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,580
On the excavator that we've read.

544
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:53,340
So in a lot of the discussions, we went back and forth on what the utilization was.

545
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:58,440
And James had corrected it, it was two to three days a week.

546
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:07,920
So that to me, mathematically, leaves a slab of 40 to 60%

547
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,980
that we're paying for while it's sitting.

548
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,580
Is there a way to redo the planning,

549
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,260
and granted this, whether that gets involved,

550
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,040
but how do we replan to shorten the amount of time

551
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,940
that we're renting, but maximize the actual usage.

552
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,820
So we have not said down with James, we know all that's

553
00:39:31,820 --> 00:39:35,240
anybody yet, with that aspect of it.

554
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,640
But we have, it's like any other construction piece

555
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000
of equipment you have, it sits idle a lot, more than you

556
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,900
think, you know that.

557
00:39:43,540 --> 00:39:45,820
And but you know, as well as anybody having your own business

558
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:46,360
here.

559
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,600
But so we have it sit two days and not being

560
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,780
that's not unusual, but to think into your question,

561
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,100
you know, can we rent it right now,

562
00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:58,840
they've been renting it for the season,

563
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,400
you know, several months at a time.

564
00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:06,000
Can that, can we do any better if we just rent it,

565
00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:08,940
when we need it, put together two weeks of projects,

566
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
or three weeks of projects, and then rent it that way,

567
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,100
I don't know, I don't have any answer yet.

568
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:17,080
I know that was a question that was asked,

569
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,540
And that's my hot button.

570
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,680
First of all, I'll put you initials down here.

571
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:29,780
That one, yeah, that's, I mean, it seems like that could be an audio, because that's actually...

572
00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:31,720
Yes, that's a James II bug, can you plan it?

573
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,080
I mean, so I don't read...

574
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,460
I don't read cell the load.

575
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,840
I mean, we use it during the winter, the snow,

576
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,900
and if they want an excavator, use that money and apply it to it,

577
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:45,240
because all it does is pick dirt up and dump it in trucks.

578
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:46,440
I think things up.

579
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,340
It puts it down.

580
00:40:48,340 --> 00:40:56,320
I mean, talk about something that sits vacant for vast amount of time, I mean, it sits nine

581
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,180
months of the year and even during the three months, it's in use.

582
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,220
It's not used every day.

583
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,780
I mean, there's been any thought to say it, we really don't need this, it's only a few

584
00:41:08,780 --> 00:41:09,520
years old.

585
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Why don't we get out from under it while it still has a lot of value and get something we can

586
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,920
every day.

587
00:41:23,770 --> 00:41:27,550
And when you say something you can use it. That's it. That's it that you can

588
00:41:27,550 --> 00:41:37,890
one an excavator replace. So you can actually back all would be a better way to go because

589
00:41:37,890 --> 00:41:42,970
then you can do both. You can loan trucks and you can clear ditches. Thank you budding. That's

590
00:41:42,970 --> 00:41:45,270
where I was speaking but that wasn't what I was saying.

591
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:49,530
We've written that already from

592
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:52,350
I don't know, I'm like, you know, it's a surprise, you know.

593
00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:55,130
It's a load of just sits there, you know,

594
00:41:57,720 --> 00:41:59,060
what's he used to,

595
00:41:59,180 --> 00:42:00,760
two months a year, if I'll count it all the day.

596
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,880
It's a retired loader, or a retired back, oh, he's versatile in that regard, but he is much slower than a rubber tire for a expert.

597
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Yeah, but when it's snowing, they get paid by the office,

598
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,300
all three owners of the concerns won't be able

599
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:17,070
to take them in extra five minutes

600
00:42:17,070 --> 00:42:19,810
to get their truckload of them, so be it.

601
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,900
Any other questions?

602
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:23,940
And then there's those questions.

603
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,100
For shock and the stuff that we've gone through.

604
00:42:31,740 --> 00:42:33,380
So I am not your representative diner

605
00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:35,760
is the liaison to it.

606
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,020
I will back her up to date.

607
00:42:37,220 --> 00:42:38,200
I'll have to fire this chocolate.

608
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,620
So yeah, just any questions, follow the code from Dana.

609
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:48,000
And you know, who Angela and stuff like that.

610
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,140
So I would ask also, I don't know actually.

611
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,580
Sometimes it was a little bit of chaos

612
00:42:53,580 --> 00:43:00,560
that he reached out to other select board members and didn't have the proper information and they

613
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,800
would reach back to you or something it was funny. Back in fourth with five or six different

614
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:14,640
people and you would get information that wasn't correct. So I would ask that we stay true to the

615
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,840
that the way they set up funneled that through to Dana or Angela. There's only two of them did

616
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:26,780
You know, we really want to, if you think that question, okay, ask questions, but don't

617
00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:30,900
pin anybody else down to try to get information because they probably don't have the right

618
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:32,640
information, they're going to give you the opportunity.

619
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Just on that, because I kind of knew this was going to come up tonight, because I watched

620
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,900
here last couple of weeks.

621
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,940
I just want to say that Rob does speak with each individual's platform member, and he worked

622
00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:50,480
really hard last year to build relationships with each individual's platform member.

623
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,560
And it probably saved us a lot of edicts.

624
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:56,260
So I just want to say there's another side to that, too,

625
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:59,440
that he worked really hard to build those relationships.

626
00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:01,240
I don't have a problem in building relationships.

627
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
But what we saw in high start, particularly,

628
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,220
there was some bad information, kid, no idea.

629
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,920
There was some bad information given at this table,

630
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,000
to take much from our representative.

631
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:21,150
So I would like to have this clean that up.

632
00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:22,170
Yeah, that's what we can.

633
00:44:22,310 --> 00:44:22,630
Absolutely.

634
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:27,690
not saying don't talk to people, but don't rely on them for any of the financial

635
00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:33,090
information or the question you have. Make sure that data and Angela are the

636
00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:35,790
ones that are going to be applied and they'll get the stuff to you.

637
00:44:36,110 --> 00:44:41,090
So the only thing is, Paul has specifically said, if you're asking for financial

638
00:44:41,090 --> 00:44:48,390
numbers, send it to key and Angela, so that there's not as much lag in case one of them is

639
00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:51,450
I'm okay that it's the one you want.

640
00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:52,310
I just did both copies.

641
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:53,390
Yeah, keep an in the loop.

642
00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:59,390
And I would say, keep three of those three folks in the loop.

643
00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:04,560
So any emails, of course, on and make sure those three are on the news?

644
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:18,340
Yep. So he did send out, you know, as she referenced, the 6,000. And then he did go through for the war cycle as well.

645
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:26,140
Because we did have some questions on what was funded out of the various things.

646
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:29,480
And you need to get back to us on that.

647
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:36,640
And we do have the information on either the war and articles that we are.

648
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,680
And Angela and I sat down today on this one in particular.

649
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,760
This is some projects on here that are getting a couple years old.

650
00:45:48,340 --> 00:45:50,040
They still have an extended money on it.

651
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,240
So that will be one of the goals this year to clean up the war and articles.

652
00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:00,060
And if we've got projects, we need you to let's get them done soon and rather than later,

653
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,980
because we know costs just continue to go up and across our construction site in particular,

654
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,380
or purchase anything.

655
00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:11,260
Is there any warrant out of course that are inspiring in December of this year?

656
00:46:14,890 --> 00:46:15,630
I do not.

657
00:46:16,330 --> 00:46:18,790
I don't know how that information or I'll get it.

658
00:46:19,550 --> 00:46:21,270
Does it be the ones we want to look at?

659
00:46:21,390 --> 00:46:22,070
That's all right.

660
00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:26,600
I don't think so, but I will look at that.

661
00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:28,300
Our thing will get back to you.

662
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,160
But I don't know how close you've been in the war at

663
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,800
Article Business up to this point.

664
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,820
But when we put out a war in it, go ahead and

665
00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:49,580
In the time of the year.

666
00:46:50,260 --> 00:46:53,080
It's usually a date that says, you know,

667
00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:56,380
by, you know, it's usually a couple of years.

668
00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:59,880
Some do it by the same year because we've had

669
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,620
to spend a few points.

670
00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:05,180
They should know war in our circles and the CIP process.

671
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:06,800
It's a seven year process.

672
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:13,600
And, you know, so we're playing on ahead, but the more an article is that's every year we're going to be coming forward.

673
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:17,160
We try to limit that number of them this year.

674
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,540
And a little differently, although there was a lot of war in articles.

675
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,180
Not as much money coming from the new tax dollars.

676
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,220
It would tax dollars, it through our savings programs.

677
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,880
And he served less of things about it, and he shouldn't go into the program.

678
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Can

679
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:49,280
I ask you something about nothing related to the Congress and the speed of my money on the answer to the project that got turned down for Dump Road when they wanted to do the rock crushing and stuff?

680
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:59,920
Yes. Do you know who the actual owner is? Because that guy was going to be able to contingent on approval, Raymond Sportsman Club wants to get a touch with him.

681
00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:01,780
Yeah. Rich it around.

682
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,380
Okay. Thanks.

683
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:05,680
He's human in the property.

684
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:19,120
Next.

685
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:22,960
How do the hot seat?

686
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,060
Always.

687
00:48:25,780 --> 00:48:27,480
This is kind of pleasant conversation.

688
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,440
There you go.

689
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:31,900
How about the hot seat?

690
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:45,940
If you want to talk about, so a resident sent me two years worth of town credit card receipts.

691
00:48:47,140 --> 00:48:49,180
I kind of started looking through it.

692
00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:56,120
I made some additional right to no request, but I think we're going to get them reformed and that's for additional information.

693
00:48:57,580 --> 00:49:01,060
And then also file the right to note for associated policies.

694
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,140
So I have a lot of information.

695
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,000
It's going to be like a little side project that I do this summer.

696
00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:10,260
It doesn't really need to be official budget to make this project.

697
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,180
But if somebody would like to fight you with me on this, it would probably be.

698
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,500
Maybe a buddy?

699
00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:22,320
helpful with having other set of ideas on it. As far as what I'm looking at so far, I

700
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,620
record a couple numbers that I found. I don't think there's a smoking gun here from what

701
00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:32,480
I've looked at so far, but the public does have a right to know how their money's being spent.

702
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:39,480
I don't think it's going to change our budget this year. So far, but I only started looking

703
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,280
have a few different categories. I'm going to re-categorize stuff over the summer and report

704
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,540
out a little bit more later. The most concerning thing from the rates of no request is I asked

705
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:58,880
for a town policy regarding the use of town credit cards. There is no policy and a policy

706
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,340
regarding discretionary spending and there is no policy. So the big department heads all

707
00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:10,500
our credit card holders, along with the talent administrator, and I believe the finance director.

708
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,680
I'm sorry.

709
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,300
The second part of it was the first part of it.

710
00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:16,920
It was the fall of some of the UC credit cards.

711
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,600
The second was the discretionary spending as our policy regarding that, and there's no policy.

712
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:31,840
So so far, the only categories I really looked at was food and food supplies,

713
00:50:32,740 --> 00:50:37,060
and then another category category was restaurants and ordering out.

714
00:50:37,060 --> 00:50:39,580
And in the third category, I looked at was gift cards.

715
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:52,290
I removed the summer reprogram from all of these numbers because if I add that in, it would probably triple everything.

716
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:55,790
And I wanted to do that separately.

717
00:50:56,150 --> 00:51:02,090
And when I started to look at summer rep, it's categorized separately in the credit card receipts.

718
00:51:02,450 --> 00:51:05,710
But it is not categorized separately in the budget or the revenues.

719
00:51:05,710 --> 00:51:09,670
So what I want to do is report to the budget committee,

720
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:11,890
some of the right program, what are their revenues?

721
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:14,050
What is their budget?

722
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:16,350
And then also maybe some nitty-free.

723
00:51:16,530 --> 00:51:18,110
I mean, this is really getting into the week.

724
00:51:18,210 --> 00:51:19,990
So I'm going to spend a good portion of the summer

725
00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:21,890
just kind of looking at it.

726
00:51:22,730 --> 00:51:23,950
And I kind of want to do this.

727
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:26,270
You need a hobby, do you?

728
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:27,510
What do you want to do?

729
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:29,290
You need a hobby.

730
00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:29,710
Exactly.

731
00:51:30,090 --> 00:51:30,490
Exactly.

732
00:51:30,490 --> 00:51:30,650
Exactly.

733
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:31,590
In my way, told me.

734
00:51:37,610 --> 00:51:41,830
So my only question tonight is who actually oversees all of this?

735
00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:46,450
I'm not looking for any answers, but I do have that question who actually oversees all of this.

736
00:51:46,490 --> 00:51:55,870
The first part of it is that the department managers are used to the car and they generally tell us what they're doing.

737
00:51:56,710 --> 00:52:07,590
And we do see that every time, by the way, every two weeks, we do get that for approval.

738
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:14,230
So, the East of the Select Board, Los Angeles, are looking through that process.

739
00:52:14,330 --> 00:52:17,110
I look to see if I know I do it routinely.

740
00:52:17,610 --> 00:52:21,290
To see if there's anything unusual or stands out.

741
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:27,690
I have questions several different things on it and typically it's a reasonable expenditure.

742
00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:28,870
Okay.

743
00:52:29,390 --> 00:52:29,750
So...

744
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:42,760
What I found so far is the food and food supplies. And this is a two year number. So remember, this is over two years, 2,693 dollars. So it's not budget by staying, you know, think what you want.

745
00:52:43,540 --> 00:52:53,480
Well, some of that's probably for the correctional and people. Because we buy them. That's part of the deal with them. We buy the lunches for them in particular. There's some other meetings.

746
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:59,080
and I don't wreck those things, too, that they just end a year, they have one to one to one.

747
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,200
They all order from about half of us, the fire department.

748
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,480
So they order slow cooker, spices, coffee, pods, pots and pans, you have some iron pans.

749
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,360
Those are all supplies.

750
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,620
See those when this year?

751
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:19,120
And then the restaurants and taking order out was 2,982 over two years.

752
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,700
So people can think what they want, if that's a proprio use of taxpayer dollars, I have

753
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,040
my own thoughts on that.

754
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:33,640
Restaurants are G&P, there's actually $1200 just at G&P, M4 of Restaurant, Tuckaway, Dunkin

755
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,320
Donuts.

756
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:41,140
A lot of it looks like it's for trustees, which I believe do work around the bill, so it's

757
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:48,200
trustees for general buildings, town fair volunteers, so I don't know if they're volunteers

758
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,400
of you treating them to dinner, but that's my own thought.

759
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,940
And then staff meetings, there's some big expenditures, a $546 staff meeting holiday

760
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,920
luncheon, and then gift cards is $3,783 over two years.

761
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,500
The gift cards are anything you could possibly imagine.

762
00:54:10,540 --> 00:54:15,980
It looks like most of it, if you look at descriptions, it's incentives for people who volunteer

763
00:54:15,980 --> 00:54:20,920
for whatever, and some of it's for employee rewards, that sort of thing.

764
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:28,720
And, you know, with the staff meetings, things of that, nature is always a holiday time they get together.

765
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,380
Sometimes when people leave, you have to order them some of the others,

766
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:36,760
if they're less, that you have a small lunch and a lot of time to bring in stuff,

767
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,000
but the supplement, you can't come any with some other stuff,

768
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,800
eat this from GMP, or don't enter some of the others.

769
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:58,800
So, I think you'll find that, I think, pretty close, but most of it is appreciation for the folks that are doing jobs, whether it's a volunteer, or whether it's just a place.

770
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,100
Okay.

771
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:04,280
I mean, might make take away from this as there's no policy.

772
00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:06,220
Good point.

773
00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:12,400
And then the other thing is, I'd like to spend some time really looking at the summer

774
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,320
record brand.

775
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:15,620
So I'll work with the Angela and Paul with that.

776
00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:20,620
What the revenue is that they bring in, that they charge the families and that what they actually

777
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:21,940
actually expense.

778
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:24,280
And I'll report that back at the end of the summer.

779
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,300
That's one of them.

780
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:33,740
I mean, we do complement that every year, the staff who picked $15,000 of the staff, most

781
00:55:33,740 --> 00:55:38,260
everything else. They're always buying equipment in games.

782
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:41,320
It's a snack, or snacks and fuel trips.

783
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:44,480
I left that completely out because I used to eat some stuff.

784
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,740
I have a lot of snacks and fuel trips.

785
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:48,820
These my kids asked me for a dollar every day for a camp.

786
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,100
So, we have a fuel trips.

787
00:55:53,580 --> 00:55:55,300
So you're looking for some volunteers.

788
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,460
Right, another set of friends.

789
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,600
And maybe somebody who's good with a Microsoft Excel.

790
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,920
So, because I don't want to screw it up.

791
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:11,000
Was it a hot sheet film?

792
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:20,720
Yeah, no, I just, I don't want to reformat something and that's up the document.

793
00:56:21,140 --> 00:56:22,440
I'm having a signal like a thing.

794
00:56:22,540 --> 00:56:25,100
I will email you what I have with prescription.

795
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,320
Thank you.

796
00:56:27,860 --> 00:56:28,360
You're welcome.

797
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,080
But I'm making guilty of using smell.

798
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,940
That's great.

799
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,760
You're welcome.

800
00:56:34,540 --> 00:56:34,740
Okay.

801
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:51,340
One other thing, so they sent over the June July fire department powers, it was extremely small.

802
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,920
With my little glasses.

803
00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:56,180
You're going to get up to a couple of things.

804
00:56:56,180 --> 00:56:57,660
I think scrolling back and forth.

805
00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:58,000
Yeah.

806
00:56:58,100 --> 00:56:59,260
I don't have a cell phone in there.

807
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,440
Oh my gosh no.

808
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,780
So you'll see.

809
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,020
It's like that.

810
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,060
Here we go.

811
00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:24,300
I think the balance being is, numbers are great, but it's, is there a call log where they

812
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:30,660
out, for calls during the time where there was overlaps, like we need some way to tie

813
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:36,220
it back together to put it in context, because it's not just numbers.

814
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:40,680
And that overall, we're still missing a lot of shifts.

815
00:57:41,620 --> 00:57:43,920
And there's other ones that are overstaffed.

816
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:48,260
So that's one line I don't think, because we have days with no coverage.

817
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,020
It's less than two. We have five good to see days with more than two.

818
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:53,800
That's good.

819
00:57:54,140 --> 00:57:55,440
Yeah, a number of those.

820
00:57:56,060 --> 00:58:00,420
If there was a fire, then I can understand more than two.

821
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,680
But somebody needs to do some analysis with their relationship.

822
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:12,140
So that question is already been asked in particular why we see if five people in a Friday

823
00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:17,400
know, or something like that in the evening, you know, some people spend a lot of time.

824
00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:22,720
So we've had some discussions with Phil on that to get better information.

825
00:58:24,220 --> 00:58:28,180
So we've gone also from a war in our article, which we're no longer tied into a war in our

826
00:58:28,180 --> 00:58:30,300
article to a line item and pretty.

827
00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:35,380
I don't think that change is anything the way that we should be looking at it.

828
00:58:35,980 --> 00:58:43,260
We're still promising folks in the 24-7-2 people, and that's the goal to get to there.

829
00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:51,760
And the way he's been asking for science, we need to change that.

830
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:53,340
We've already talked about that.

831
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:55,580
It's not when they want to work.

832
00:58:55,740 --> 00:58:57,820
It's when we want them to work.

833
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,300
Is there a limit as to how many consecutive hours someone can work?

834
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:11,880
Well, yes, you know, some of them are limited because of other jobs that they have to

835
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,360
max out.

836
00:59:12,380 --> 00:59:15,400
There were some that were doing double shifts that were a little

837
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,220
lot of total time back to back, so that's what caused them.

838
00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:24,960
So they can do, I mean, they can do a 24-hour, they can do a 48-up to 48 hours, is there another

839
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:31,020
requirement that they have to be under, like 1500 for the total year, it's like 33 hours

840
00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:32,580
average a week, 29.

841
00:59:32,580 --> 00:59:39,080
It depends on the position there in, right, you know, we've got right now we only have one full-time position, and that's it.

842
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:49,900
But, yes, the answer to that, but the trouble is, so many of these folks are already working, you know, their full shifts at another department.

843
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:56,520
And we've already said we do not want these people exhausted when they're coming here and working on these shifts.

844
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,960
And so we just...

845
01:00:01,330 --> 01:00:23,970
Fill has to recognize more of that. It's not just filling shifts. It's fill is a particular shift. And you can see from that spreadsheet, things that weren't unassigned, the key things there is no officer being assigned to those shifts. That needs to change.

846
01:00:26,340 --> 01:00:30,060
We have two full timers or they still just felt full time.

847
01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:34,380
We have one full time, and there is discussion,

848
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,480
didn't like to have the second one on.

849
01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:39,400
He said some discussions with that.

850
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,660
But if you look at the ways funded now,

851
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,040
it's really for the one full time position,

852
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,920
and a part time in ministry.

853
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,340
That's just $20,000 for the year.

854
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,640
So it's not a lot of hours.

855
01:00:53,640 --> 01:01:02,980
But I think what we think of it was 20,000 hours at our time, half time, or 20,000 hours.

856
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:05,440
That's where we came up with that number.

857
01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:08,180
But no, there's not a second thing.

858
01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:13,640
I think the way it's said now, because it's a bottom line budget, where it's last year,

859
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:17,960
it was not, it was a worn out, we had to tap into a bottom line budget.

860
01:01:18,460 --> 01:01:23,340
If there's true justification for the, you can utilize the part time,

861
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:29,060
for GMI with some of that, but I was talking about other times about how they were there

862
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:30,500
for GMI with some of them.

863
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:32,420
Doesn't work very different.

864
01:01:33,020 --> 01:01:33,800
We are different.

865
01:01:35,140 --> 01:01:36,240
It doesn't seem to be working.

866
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:38,840
Has there been any conversation around?

867
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,540
Wait, wait a minute.

868
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:39,780
Good.

869
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:42,800
But let's answer the question first.

870
01:01:43,340 --> 01:01:44,640
Hey, I'm not very excited.

871
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,740
I'm not here.

872
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:46,920
But I'm looking at it.

873
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:47,340
Look at that.

874
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,700
I can clearly see it.

875
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,860
But so I was going to try to get a percentage of what is not filled.

876
01:01:52,860 --> 01:02:00,100
That was just so much more simpler to do that and we don't know we know that yeah at this point

877
01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:02,300
So what we don't know is

878
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:09,660
How many people that really available and the part of the problem is you have to have a whole lot more

879
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:11,440
Programs to fill those ships

880
01:02:12,020 --> 01:02:17,480
You know you just can't have two two people work and it's just too many hours there as well as we can

881
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:25,240
And you know, to get that, I think, you know what I'm going to make it work, and I'm not sure

882
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,740
it's a workable model overall.

883
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:32,380
I think there's things I've been still looking at making sure we have people there and

884
01:02:32,380 --> 01:02:35,000
offices there when we need it.

885
01:02:35,140 --> 01:02:41,100
But this, that was a, this past year that was their first attempt to try to change what we had

886
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:41,720
before.

887
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:55,180
I think we saw improvements, we had more people there overall, but we did not fulfill a promise of 24-7 to other people, plus the full-time staff in the field.

888
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:02,180
So are we talking to other towns that are using successful models for ideas?

889
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:03,980
Is that with your point once?

890
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:08,340
Yeah, as a part of our, as a part of our panel, I am a part of our part of our panel.

891
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:15,400
I know a lot of other models in the area, and I'm not saying it doesn't work in other places,

892
01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:18,240
but I look at that chart and it doesn't appear to me.

893
01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:21,000
We promised 247, so I'm curious what's happening.

894
01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:23,220
I'm not saying every time it's perfect either.

895
01:03:23,940 --> 01:03:25,280
But they're all very different.

896
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,280
You go to the stand that we're saying the other time it's the each one of them was a totally different model.

897
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:35,040
That do seem to be working better, but I'm not sure what the program started or any of that.

898
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:44,560
Can I be curious, the answer is maybe fill this, or Lauren maybe, but certainly at a level

899
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:51,640
here in the town we haven't had those discussions. It's a good point though. I'd like to see

900
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:59,260
the models are different. I think they fill in the slots. We have a model and we could say we

901
01:03:59,260 --> 01:04:04,640
But it's not me and the goal we set.

902
01:04:05,020 --> 01:04:06,400
The goals have to be changed.

903
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,140
The modification is something like that.

904
01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:14,220
That's where we just have to learn from where we are today and go full and change them.

905
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:14,900
It's necessary.

906
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:23,100
Yeah, but if the other towns have gone through a series of modifications to get to something that's working.

907
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,580
Let's just deal with working.

908
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,140
I don't think that there's any town that's perfect.

909
01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:29,620
And there are times that throw a lot of money.

910
01:04:29,780 --> 01:04:32,360
You go to, I come up, get, get into it.

911
01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:35,160
You go, more towards the first, you know,

912
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,480
see those, they're throwing a lot of money

913
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,860
and they're pretty, and they're not feeling all they're just.

914
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,700
But there's throwing a lot more money than we are able to.

915
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,700
So it's going to just become a big worry.

916
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,840
You, your perdiems, that's what's happening.

917
01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:49,660
You go, sale and guys are working, and prevent them.

918
01:04:49,780 --> 01:04:50,880
They're, you guys are working here.

919
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:53,080
And they're all just kind of working where they know.

920
01:04:53,580 --> 01:04:55,620
And then they bounce around, as soon as you

921
01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:59,680
by dollar and more, they forget about this time that they will go over there, and that is the

922
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:07,220
world that has begun and people are just driving it. In partying, partying to fall into

923
01:05:07,220 --> 01:05:13,880
your aspect is gone. I wouldn't say that on call, the album called Passpect is gone. It's on

924
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:24,380
my workboard at seven people respond to a building fire in this town from home. So there's some models

925
01:05:24,380 --> 01:05:29,540
are working maybe better. So I just want to say that we have discussed with them.

926
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:33,180
You know, that's part of the strategic plan. What has done the model, we had not only

927
01:05:33,180 --> 01:05:38,320
for this year, and improved it, but we need to be, to make sure we've got the coverage.

928
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:45,100
Especially, we have much more emergency response for ambulance service than we do for fires.

929
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:49,940
We had a couple of fires a year, and we've had a couple of really bad ones.

930
01:05:49,940 --> 01:06:00,400
But I think that in making sure the emergency side of the people responded, there's a key thing that we continue to continue on.

931
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:05,140
We have the ambulance that's fully stocked and we don't respond to the transport patients.

932
01:06:06,180 --> 01:06:06,980
Yeah, we cannot.

933
01:06:08,380 --> 01:06:10,320
Do you need dairy health experts fully stocked?

934
01:06:10,340 --> 01:06:12,460
Yeah, because it starts the process.

935
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,700
And then it's transport so that we have one here, in case there's another problem.

936
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:21,560
So the time I work for the same way, we have animals that is capable of transport, we do not transport or anything.

937
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,240
This is maybe twice a month.

938
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,740
But we can't, we have to just like, I'll start with this one.

939
01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:31,280
You know, and always, when that one is hooting it, they're first.

940
01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:36,000
If some of the other towns have two or three going on at one time,

941
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:38,000
they may not get to us in a timely manner.

942
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:45,800
And at least you've got somebody there with some equipment to do short-term stabilization.

943
01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:48,840
It's about to be a question that I interrupt you.

944
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:57,260
If the coverage for the fire department remains at 50% or whatever the number was, that

945
01:06:57,260 --> 01:07:05,600
we saw this year, are there plans to clothe that three, five back or change it or come up

946
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:11,220
with a plan that goes, hey, you have the money, you're basically spending the money and

947
01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:19,540
providing half of the services, what's the Gulf Forward and that direction?

948
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:28,700
So we haven't really discussed that. I can tell you as a opinion of where we need to be on it.

949
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:29,960
It's...

950
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:38,000
The expectations we set forward. If we say we're going to have 24 sudden, we might have, and two people, we might have money there to support it.

951
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:47,740
All right, so that they can't come back and say, you took the money, you know, and if our miracle happens, and we got people now, they can do it.

952
01:07:48,060 --> 01:07:55,680
I think that's the view of the feet to the fire and go, you gave us 50% coverage.

953
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,820
It's going to get to 75% of the money.

954
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,900
I mean, that's what we have to do.

955
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:02,940
That's what we have to do.

956
01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:07,560
I think what the first question that are the first response we're already seeing at

957
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,400
is that we want to put on another full-time person.

958
01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:14,020
Before and on the full-time person, it costs a whole lot more than

959
01:08:14,020 --> 01:08:14,900
the producers.

960
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,100
You're paying better things than these.

961
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,980
So, you know, you...

962
01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:22,800
Yeah, but it's still not necessarily getting into a great relationship.

963
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:29,960
How do you think, you know, one of the autocuities that you said, but you don't need to, well, you need probably still time in and after somebody.

964
01:08:30,660 --> 01:08:33,700
Yeah, there's, all these, they're going to work nights and weekends.

965
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:43,760
It's a difficult model to, you know, and almost say right now it's almost impossible to make it work just on the premiums like that.

966
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:50,000
I don't know how much like I can throw it here right now, but, you know, like the time I worked for,

967
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:59,440
model is 6 a.m. to 5 p.m., 2 p.m. to 10 p.m.

968
01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:05,700
to 6 a.m. to 6 a.m., 2 p.m.

969
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,500
that guarantees us 2 people in our

970
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:18,220
endos all the time. for our part. but that's still only 2 people. so when we're talking about our

971
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:26,480
We don't have people coming from all of our poor, poor, poor people seem to be from

972
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:27,500
our old, other towns.

973
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,740
So what happens when that word see, it call happens when no one is here.

974
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,100
And, and or it's a commonly called, that means an extra response.

975
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,500
And we're starting to strip being one of those towns that comes here.

976
01:09:40,540 --> 01:09:45,960
We're starting to strip those towns of their own responses, which there is a

977
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:53,360
to do that. But we can't rely on them because they're in the problems too, so that

978
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,320
that period of time has come down to you when you brought it up, when you worked here,

979
01:09:57,740 --> 01:10:03,140
and then you were in our mental. We'll call me, you'll say, well, they have problems too.

980
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:09,380
They can't rely on them, so if they're able to come from home here as well.

981
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,180
Because we can't rely on pretty much.

982
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:18,540
The next one, the area, the disaster, the volcano, shows up and blows up and now we're all in trouble.

983
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:25,840
All the people, all the people, all the people, all the people, but all the people that, maybe that's why I came to my life.

984
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:31,880
All the people that are full-time firefighters somewhere else, did I not make it?

985
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:36,320
If I were to slide my schedule across to the last week, it'd be completely full.

986
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,980
If you look at what I'm going to do, there's nothing to say.

987
01:10:41,420 --> 01:10:43,340
Right, so our model started similarly.

988
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:46,680
I'm not saying it would work in this time, because of my call.

989
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,300
And you made a point about the competitiveness.

990
01:10:52,060 --> 01:10:54,540
So, Phil is already been talking about the money.

991
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,160
He starts stripping the money off.

992
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:02,420
Phil's already come in and said, being competitive, he wants to have a cross-support number

993
01:11:02,420 --> 01:11:04,500
of different people, significant reasons already.

994
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,360
And when you're talking, I'm going to make a strategic plan.

995
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:09,680
Exactly.

996
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:10,300
Exactly.

997
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:19,380
So, you know, when we're not talking a dollar an hour, we're talking five, ten, ten, plus, to attract

998
01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:23,000
the people that you really want, whether it's an officer or something like that, nature.

999
01:11:23,660 --> 01:11:27,700
So, that's who we've got a, this particular plan is key.

1000
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:29,880
With these.

1001
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,060
With the data back, back, back, back.

1002
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:39,720
And I think that, and you've heard me get on that so far to be forward, so many need

1003
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:46,480
to help them create a strategic plan, because just by saying, I would like a strategic plan

1004
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:47,980
does not mean you can get on that.

1005
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,220
That's right.

1006
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:54,080
People are going to say they want to fold the pot, and I mean, my strategic plan is that next year,

1007
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,160
you know, I'd like to hide it.

1008
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,960
This person is that we could do this, and we could do this, and we could do this, and we could

1009
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,540
just hide it.

1010
01:11:58,540 --> 01:12:02,200
So that's the KPI, all right, so that's where it couldn't back to.

1011
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,160
You can save these things, but you got to be able to back it out and we got to measure it.

1012
01:12:06,180 --> 01:12:08,380
And it doesn't happen, that's a problem.

1013
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:15,040
And we essentially were there this year, so, you know, that's where the change is after

1014
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:15,460
occur.

1015
01:12:16,180 --> 01:12:20,840
And that's why I haven't started any discussions about taking money back yet.

1016
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:28,520
If we need to, if we can improve the coverage by increase in dollar amount, maybe that's

1017
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:34,180
we just do here and we still, if we do that, we're still not going to have the 24-7 for the two,

1018
01:12:34,420 --> 01:12:38,780
because we've taken the money to pay. But we can possibly, if we can just improve the coverage

1019
01:12:38,780 --> 01:12:44,380
right along, we need to take a track local talent. But to confirm if you're taking it away,

1020
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,460
it's still being within the highly department, or you talk about taking it away.

1021
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:58,220
I think it's one of the things that you're only using. Yeah, the coverage needs to be tied to that

1022
01:12:58,220 --> 01:13:05,920
we gave you 385 per year. But the taxpayers wouldn't expect that money to be reallocated to

1023
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:13,120
some other investment within the town. I know there is a way to hold that money. All the

1024
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:20,220
feet of the money stays in the fire department and that's what we have to want. And if it sits

1025
01:13:20,220 --> 01:13:26,860
there at the end of the year, you use half of 385, which is only at 50% coverage. There rolls back

1026
01:13:26,860 --> 01:13:29,780
the tax pay is at the end of the year.

1027
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:30,940
Not sure.

1028
01:13:31,740 --> 01:13:37,920
When we were this year, we had to take $65,000 from that to balance the budget.

1029
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,000
Right.

1030
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:41,160
But so.

1031
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:41,560
Yeah.

1032
01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:43,540
It's a game of finance.

1033
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,040
It's right.

1034
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,360
And you've got to balance them where you can.

1035
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:47,180
Yeah.

1036
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:48,260
We would like to.

1037
01:13:48,940 --> 01:13:53,720
And sometimes it's not just given back to the public, but it's not asking for more money.

1038
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:59,420
You know, it's spending it like we did in someone this year, we said, okay, we need these services

1039
01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:05,000
fight a fireman ordered a couple of thousand dollars of stuff at the end of the year

1040
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:07,600
because they needed it.

1041
01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:12,960
We always look at though when we set the tax rates of

1042
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,860
We also look into the is there a debate and do we in the last couple of years we have

1043
01:14:18,380 --> 01:14:20,300
Taking some money and put it towards that

1044
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:23,380
But typically when you do that you're only talking

1045
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:29,720
a couple of percent of lowering the taxes because it's, you know, when you talk

1046
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:35,720
in $20 million plus for a overall budget and you only move $50,000 over

1047
01:14:36,580 --> 01:14:38,780
which is an half of a percent or something like that.

1048
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,560
But the people wanted $20 plus seven coverage at a dollar amount

1049
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:51,940
and we didn't need to provide that to them or have that money set aside that we

1050
01:14:51,940 --> 01:14:55,100
didn't give it, but we still have the money that was set aside for it.

1051
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:57,340
That's where the gold and expectations come in.

1052
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,980
So nobody, the public didn't ask.

1053
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:21,960
So let me make a general statement.

1054
01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:29,760
We've talked a lot about the things for next year's budget.

1055
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:37,160
as we start to put it together. So what I'd ask is for everybody to think over the next few weeks,

1056
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:46,480
get some ideas on what you would recommend as being inclusive of the budget process and send those

1057
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:53,560
to Rob so that we can kind of summarize those along the way, pass them forward to the appropriate

1058
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,520
folks.

1059
01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:02,630
Any other questions for Chuck? Otherwise, I'll move to minutes.

1060
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:06,860
Okay, so we still

1061
01:16:06,860 --> 01:16:14,260
had minutes from May 18th. At the last meeting, there was not enough people that were

1062
01:16:14,260 --> 01:16:22,860
in the May 18th meeting to approve the minutes. We have Ron Gray, Sabrina, Chuck and

1063
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:32,280
myself here so that we could do that. Anybody have any changes? Don't break you with it.

1064
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,660
They're good. They're good.

1065
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,860
All right. Can I get a recommendation?

1066
01:16:36,820 --> 01:16:37,360
Uh, so.

1067
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,420
Okay. Second. Second. Second.

1068
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:46,280
Okay. All in favor of accepting the May 18 minutes.

1069
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,280
Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. I was in there.

1070
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:51,680
Correct. You two were not.

1071
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,800
So I think there should go a little bit.

1072
01:16:57,980 --> 01:17:00,000
Right, Sabrina, shut up.

1073
01:17:00,260 --> 01:17:00,980
Come on, Kathy.

1074
01:17:01,580 --> 01:17:02,680
Say yes.

1075
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:04,200
Okay.

1076
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:09,680
And then we have the meeting minutes from June 8th.

1077
01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:14,860
In the question on how one did you rent those?

1078
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,200
Or did they bring you a minute?

1079
01:17:22,350 --> 01:17:30,510
I believe those would be because the camera was fritzing and we got nothing.

1080
01:17:31,050 --> 01:17:34,470
I like how there were figures in the meeting minutes.

1081
01:17:37,780 --> 01:17:39,480
Have these little mirrors dropped in hand?

1082
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,160
So,

1083
01:17:45,230 --> 01:17:46,030
I have a motion.

1084
01:17:46,330 --> 01:17:49,990
I move to accept the meeting minutes from that date.

1085
01:17:50,530 --> 01:17:50,830
Do it.

1086
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:54,200
Second.

1087
01:17:56,460 --> 01:17:56,720
Okay.

1088
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,000
Okay, all those in favour?

1089
01:17:59,520 --> 01:17:59,680
Just a little bit.

1090
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:00,760
Just a little bit.

1091
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:00,920
Just a little bit.

1092
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,320
Just a little bit.

1093
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:03,520
Just a little bit.

1094
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:08,740
Okay, so we have Greg, Ron, Alex.

1095
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:10,960
I have to abstain.

1096
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,220
And we'll sit there.

1097
01:18:12,460 --> 01:18:14,180
Kathy, we'll get this.

1098
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:14,780
That's fine.

1099
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:16,060
Good.

1100
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:17,660
All right.

1101
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,660
Any other topics for tonight?

1102
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:29,630
Any motion to adjourn?

1103
01:18:30,190 --> 01:18:30,670
So move.

1104
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:31,950
Second.

1105
01:18:32,510 --> 01:18:32,950
Second.

1106
01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:34,930
All those in there?

1107
01:18:35,010 --> 01:18:35,710
Aye.