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We'll call the meeting to order. We
respectfully acknowledge that we live

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and work in Migmi as a steward of the
ancestral territory of the Migm people.

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We are all treaty people. Approval of
the agenda. So Tom, I know you have a

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few things you want to add at the end.
>> Yeah. Anybody else? Any additions or

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deletions? Or you can take half the
agenda off if you want.

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» I'll approve the agenda.
Seconder

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» discussion. All those in favor? Opposed?
Motions carried.

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Public input. Each person is limited to
a maximum of five minutes with the

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entire public input session not
exceeding 15 minutes. Each person must

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state their name and address. Questions
and comments are to be directed at the

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chair and comments are open to any
municipal matters or anybody who wishes

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to address council this morning. Come on
up.

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You might remember me from last time I
was here regarding the Gold River

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Bridge, which
>> was a great conclusion.

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» Um, so my name is Jamie Miller. I live
at 49 Croft Road in Chester Basin.

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Warden, members of council and
neighbors, good morning and thank you

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for your time. Um, and I never do public
speaking. [laughter]

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» I'm here.
>> You're good at emails.

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» Yeah.
I I I have a degree in [cough]

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[clears throat] English, so I'm good at
it, but speaking is

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um so I'm here to speak on behalf of a
landmark that has defined the visual and

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historical heart of Chester Basin since
the mid 1800s. The magnificent Victorian

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home standing tall overlooking the basin
at 24 Biwater Lane. Recently, it has

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come to my attention that there are
strong community concerns and valid

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rumors regarding the potential loss of
this house, and they have continued to

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grow rapidly. I'm here today to urge
council towards proactive stewardship to

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finish what was once started in the
1990s and officially register this

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structure as a municipal heritage
property before it is too late. If you

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ask anyone in or outside our
municipality to picture Chester Basin in

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their mind, this is often the house that
they envision. It stands as an iconic

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coastal landmark for everyone entering
our community. Architecturally, it is a

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quintessential example of mid 19th
century Victorian design. What makes it

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remarkable is that over 150 years, the
exterior remains almost entirely

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unchanged. It still displays its
original gingerbread trim, cedar

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shingles, and decorative woodwork.
Furthermore, as seen in recent real

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estate listings, the house remains in
excellent structural condition and even

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appears to maintain many original
interior features. Therefore, there's

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currently no physical or safety
rationale that justifies tearing it

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down. Beyond its beauty, these walls
contain the story of our region's

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maritime and industrial development. A
home of this design appears on an 1853

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map, and by 1864,
um, it is identified as part of the

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thriving ship building enterprise owned
by Anderson and Henagar. I have many

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photographs of its history in my
possession. Um

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uh so by 1871
uh Levi Auxner took over the business.

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His son Howard and Robin Hener later
operated the Chester Basin Ship Builders

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Ltd, which was the very last firm to
build wooden ships in that historic

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yard. Furthermore, local historian
Everett Bachmann confirmed to me that

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the property was later integral to the
famous barrel making enterprise in

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Chester Basin. And as many of you
probably know, from 1892 to 1957, it was

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our community post office and a central
uh gathering place for residents. Um I

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also have a photo from my neighbor
Christina Fitch that shows a massive

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granite boulder on the property that
apparently was blasted into um smaller

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pieces to build the Gold River Bridge
>> um which is a structure that we are

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thankfully restoring today thanks to the
efforts of our community.

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» Christina used to live there.
>> Yeah. Yeah. was in her family.

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» I've slept there a few nights myself.
>> Yeah, many people have stories of this

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house. It's crazy. Um, anyways, we are
watching our local history slip away

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piece by piece. We recently lost the
historic home across from the seaside

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shanty, which I do understand was in
quite disrepair. Um, but longtime

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residents like Larry Ryan, Everett
Bachmann, and Steve Eisner, who I

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recently had the pleasure of meeting,
have voiced their heartbreak over the

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steady loss of our heritage over the
decades. and they were truly speechless

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when they heard the rumor that I had
heard. Furthermore, you will soon be

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receiving a letter from the Chester
Heritage Society recommending that this

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home be designated and protected. We
must start protecting what remains

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before it's gone forever. The good news
is that council does not need to start

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from scratch. Through municipal planning
staff, I discovered that the home was

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already halfway through or around there
the heritage registration process.

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Apparently, form A was completed, which
Christina also told me about. Um, but

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form B was left unfinished as confirmed
by the Heritage Trust of Nova Scotia,

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who I spoke to, third party nominations
are completely [clears throat] legal.

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And according to my reading of bylaw
number 76, form B is the notice that the

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municipality issues after council
registers a property, and it is signed

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by the municipal clerk, and it does not
require the owner's signature.

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Um, and in conclusion, we have a rare,
fleeting opportunity to act before a

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crisis occurs rather than mourning
another loss after the fact. I urge

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council today to direct staff to prepare
a report on registering this property as

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a municipal heritage property so that
the process that was started in the '90s

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um can be resumed and completed and this
landmark protected for future

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generations. And if there's anything
that I can do to help, whether it's

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researching, collecting historic
photographs, or anything of that sort, I

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would be happy to assist. Thank you for
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» Thank you.
>> I mean, I'm I'm well aware that it is a

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historic property.
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» Um but I do think we need the report
from staff and I also think we need to

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have a discussion with the owner because
I've heard the rumor, but I don't know.

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» Yeah. Yeah. you know
>> what his intentions are or why he

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intends to do it or you know is there
what

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» from what I heard it's because he
prefers modern

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» architecture
>> I wonder why he bought the place well

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» right on the ocean that's one reason I
guess but yeah so yes so I you know I I

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do believe we should have a report from
staff and just what the process is and

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our involvement and
>> what the legal implications are if we

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register something and prevent people
from doing what they want with it

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» well from From what I've researched, it
doesn't necessarily prevent him, but it

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delays it.
>> It delays it significant.

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» Well, that's what I'd need to know. You
know,

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a motion.
>> Yeah.

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» We have seconder to get the staff
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» Discussion. All those in favor.
>> Where is it located? Is it on the uh

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» It's the one.
>> Yeah. The little road that runs down

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past where the old
>> grocery store was. Yeah. I thought so.

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that one out on the end there.
>> Yeah.

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» Oh, yes.
>> Yeah.

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» It's quite significant.
>> Oh, yeah. No, it's been there forever. I

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mean, yeah. And like Nancy Fitch, Dean
Fitch, they they live there and uh I'm

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going to her funeral tomorrow.
>> Yeah. Me, too.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay.

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» Any further discussion on the motion?
>> It's got that gingerbread trim on it

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right out in the basin there. Yeah.
>> All those in favor?

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» Opposed? Motions carried. Thanks for
coming in. I'll see you tomorrow again.

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» Thank you. Anyone else wish to speak to
council?

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» Yeah. Okay. So, minutes of the previous
meeting draft council minutes August

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13th errors or omissions.

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» So moved.
>> Second.

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» Moved and seconded to be approved.
Discussion. All those in favor?

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Opposed? Motion's carried. Draft special
council meeting August 24th. Errors or

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omissions?

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» Seconded. Discussion. All those in
favor? Opposed? Motions carry.

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[clears throat]
Proclamations and designations. U email

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from beyond bandage initiative.

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Don't know if everybody's read that or
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somebody prepared to move it or not move
it or

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» Jennifer have anything to know she's not
here. She usually tells us all about it.

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» No, it's uh actually Emily prepares the
reports now. So, it's just a motion to

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proclaim uh October 17th as United
Nations International Day for the

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Eradication of Poverty on the Southshore
to create awareness for the United

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Nations International [snorts] Day for
the Eradication of Poverty in Lunberg

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County. Um, and that was requested by
Beyond Band-Aids and there's a

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proclamation to go along with that.
>> I'll second it.

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» Moved and seconded. Discussion. All
those in favor? Opposed? Motion's

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carried. Not sure how we're going to
accomplish it, but whatever.

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Yes, that's not

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» 7.1 is Loomberg County Senior Safety.
>> Hello. Um, yes. Uh, just simply that the

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report has been included with your
package and if there were any questions

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I would uh try my best to answer and if
not I would certainly find the answer

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out and and get it get the answer
information back to you. Yeah. Anyone

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any questions?
Doesn't appear to be.

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» Okay.
Public presentations. Not aware of any.

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» Nope.
Bylaws and policies 9.1 requests for

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decision prepared September 10th.
Lowinccome tax exemption

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update.
>> Okay. Morning council. Uh this is a

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fairly straightforward uh
>> Yeah, we do every year. recommendation

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to approve the amended tax exemption
policy P25. Um, and those modifications

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or amendments were presented at the last
uh regular council meeting on August

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13th. And today's motion would be to
enact those changes officially. And they

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are to increase the income threshold up
to 35,157

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uh and the maximum exemption up to $918.

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» Second.
>> Discussion. All those in favor.

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[clears throat]
>> Okay, I think we're on correspondence

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11.1 email received from Vernon Ketty to
cancel reports boundary.

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» It's for information.
>> It is. Yeah. He he sent it so I to me

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and so I thought everybody else should
see it as well.

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[clears throat]
11.2 Na uh from Nancy Bzant to cancel

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excess access way to local beach.

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It's for information unless
>> unless we have action. That's

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information. Okay.
>> Council,

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» you ask all the questions you want.
>> I'd like to know where what beach is she

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referring to.
>> Do you know

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» through the chair? Um it's um it's a
small beach uh um in Blandford uh sort

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of proximal to the church and um some of
the locals there just basically drag

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their equipment and stuff across and
over the guard rail and down and there

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are a number of small beaches in that
area that residents use.

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I spoke to this resident already and uh
explained that obviously any removal of

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the guardrail sections would be um
subject to provincial

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activity and stuff. And you know if we
get past that hurdle you know which is

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probably a fairly large if. Um but if
that happens then you know then we can

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maybe table uh the request to have some
better access to get down for residents.

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But, you know, without that, you're
still climbing over the guard rail.

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» I would suggest that, you know, when we
have an opportunity to speak with the

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province again in our regular
transportation meetings, we'll we'll

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» we can forward this to that agenda.
>> Yeah, that's right. So, we'll see how

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that goes. And then, you know, this is
residents have informally spoke to me

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about this many times over the years. It
just uh now finally it's coming as a

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written correspondence.
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» Thank you.
>> Okay. Okay. And 11.3 and 11.4 they're

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just to be received as info and there's
a report to come from staff which we

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don't have yet today.
So 12.1 staff information report

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department update financial information
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» Okay.
>> So I'm assuming you're going to tell us

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we're not broke.
Uh that's not it, [laughter]

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» but I can tell you we're not broke if
that's what you'd like to hear. Um so

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this is uh more of an operational side
of a departmental update. Um I've

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included a report in text format.
There's also a more visual uh text or

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PowerPoint presentation to go with it,
but they kind of relate. Um so I'm going

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to go through the information report,
but I know sometimes people prefer the

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uh the visual format as well. So we've
got both. Um so this is just a fairly

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[snorts] standard uh quarterly report
for the department for the first quarter

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of the the current fiscal year which ran
from April 1st to June 30th. Um there is

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some information in here where I've
included subsequent information beyond

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June 30th where it's relevant or useful
but I've referenced those dates where

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possible. Um

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so some updates on the records manager
staffing update. We just you you all met

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our new records manager this morning. Uh
so we're wonderfully happy to have her.

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We've done some internal staffing
changes as well. There's one uh staff

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who is out unexpectedly on a leave. Uh
so we've had some temporary movements to

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to fill the positions as necessary. So
we have Ashley Tanner has moved into our

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revenue administrator role and uh as of
I believe next Monday, we've got uh

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Laurian Harish coming over to us from uh
community development and recreation uh

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to help us fill Ashley's role of
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Uh big big ticket items. One thing that
I like to make sure I'm bringing to

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council fairly regularly is the water
and pace program loans because they're

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very popular and uh you know if they get
to a certain point, you know, council's

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allocated $2.4 million in reserve to
fund these uh lending programs. Um right

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now we have 65 active water and sewer
loans under that program [clears throat]

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with 16 more that have already been
approved and are potentially coming

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through.
>> That's better than we had been for a

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long time.
>> Very there was a huge surge in

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applications uh late last year after the
update to the bylaw. Uh it's slowed down

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a bit now, but still a very popular
program. Um very helpful for people

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getting them their own deeper, more
suitable wells. Uh generally that's what

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it is. Some people are using it for
water treatment for quality. A couple

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people are using it for um fixing up um
their septic systems that aren't

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working.
>> Um but very helpful program for the res.

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Yeah. Um, so there's 200 uh, sorry,
$922,685

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drawn against that reserve from the
water program

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» and another $480 potentially if all
those approved loans uh, were to go

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through at the max value.
>> Council,

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councelor Brener,
>> just want to confirm, Tim, that that

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through you to the chair, please. Um I
want to confirm that that also includes

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cyistn if they're looking for water
systems to work with cyesterns because a

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lot of people have question on that and
they're not clear that it is but it

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definitely is included and please folks
if you're having challenges that's a

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great way to look into that option and
move forward. Thank you.

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» Yes, I believe are explicitly mentioned
as an example uh in the bylaw. However,

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it it is most generally intended for
improving the quality or quantity of an

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existing water system. So, it's not for
building a new system on a brand new

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construction, but for
>> replacing or upgrading an existing

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system that's not sufficient anymore.
>> Um, the PACE program has 15 active loans

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currently with another five uh approved
and in progress. Now, that program we

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know is kind of sunsetting, I guess,
because the PACE, the clean energy

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foundation is no longer supporting that,
but we're working through the ones that

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were in place when that happened. uh
total drawn against that as of the end

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of August was 431264
uh with the potential for another

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200,000 if those remaining five go
through at full value. So from the

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combined $2.4 million reserve there's a
current balance at the end of August of

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1 million 353949
um drawn against that leaving uh just

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over a million uh 1.05 million uh
remaining. If all those outstanding

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approved loans come through for the full
value, that would bring it down to about

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$366,000
remaining, which is uh the equivalent of

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approximately 12 full value sewer loans,
which is not a lot. Um, however, we're

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not getting them at that rate anymore.
Uh, and we're getting repayments of

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about $11,000 a month from all the
existing loans. So, kind of replenish

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that reserve as time goes on.
>> Yeah. the that's the reason why I want

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to bring this to council more regularly
is so that we can keep an eye on that

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amount available if we do get to a point
where it's looking like we're going to

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run out of that funding council as make
a decision at that time as to whether to

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limit the program or to expand the
funding or any other options.

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» Yeah.
>> Um final

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» tax
thanks I just think just good news. I

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just wanted to know like
we offer a lot of options for payback

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for uh when they for this program they
they can do it on a variety of different

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» options to pay to to to to do that.
>> Uh we tend to prefer a monthly

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pre-authorized payment. We do set new
loans up with pre-authorized and monthly

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uh primarily because it is a very manual
process. We have like somebody actually

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has to go and do this work every time.
>> Okay. Um and so we would prefer

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consistency to make that a little bit
less ownorous on the staff. However,

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yes, we do have some flexibility.
>> So, so are you are you finding that you

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recommend us that people are tending to
do that?

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» Yeah, the monthly pre-authorized
payments is by far the most common.

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Good.
>> Um I always make sure to clarify with

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people before they go through the
process that these are open loans. They

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can always just pay them off in full.
There's no penalty or future interest or

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anything like that. Um, and they could
even come in and pay down a chunk if

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they come into some extra money.
However, I always ask that they don't do

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that all the time because of that manual
effort that's required. Like, don't come

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in every payday and put 20 bucks on your
loan. That's going to be

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» Yeah.
>> Well, the reason I ask is I have someone

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in my area that took advantage of and I
think they're they're they're planning

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to pay it.
>> Yeah.

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» Pay it off or whatever and I just went
>> that's always an option and there I said

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there's no penalties or anything like
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» Great. Thank you.
>> Yeah, it's a wonderful program. Very

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popular.
Uh, yep. We're working on the final tax

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bills. Those should be going out very
shortly uh to the printers within the

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next few days or a week and then out to
residents uh later this month.

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» I'll be happy to have J.
>> Oh, yeah. People love getting tax bills.

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It definitely drives some volume of work
in the in the office. That's for sure.

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» Uh over on the information services
side, so it support tickets. I've been

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tracking the tickets and response times.
Um in the year ended March 31st, we had

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a total of 642 tickets handled by the IT
help desk. Uh which is 20% higher than

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the previous uh fiscal year. Um and in
that year most recently uh 83% were

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resolved within 24 hours which was down
slightly from the 87% of the year before

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that. uh in just Q1 of this fiscal year
up April to June [clears throat] we had

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169 tickets which is also up 20% from
the previous uh Q1 and the resolution

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within 24 hours was 76% down from 82%.
Um so you can see there is a bit of a

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trend of growing volumes and also a
trend of increasing response times. Um

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I'm not concerned at the moment. There
are the response times are still well

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within acceptable limits I would say but
that is something we're monitoring to

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make sure that we're continuing to
provide appropriate services uh for our

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organization. Uh similarly there's been
an increased volume and complexity in IT

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security issues. Um in Q1 of this fiscal
year our email security system blocked

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over 22,000 suspicious or unwanted
emails

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» and that helping to protect municipal
operations. Those are very risky things

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that less through the less likely we are
to have somebody click on them.

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» Uh well, other cyber security systems
prevented more than 134,000 malicious

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cyber events. So attempts to connect
through our systems and things like

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that.
>> Um in IT systems, we've completed the

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transition to the Bell total connect
portal uh which was mandated by our

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provider. They were ending support for
the previous version and required us to

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transition. uh that was done
successfully um with very minimal impact

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to operations.
Uh we've also gone through multiple

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server migration activities on the back
end. Some stuff that needed to be done

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for security and for you know usability
uh functions to make sure that they're

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all modern and up to date again without
significant impacts.

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uh GIS and mapping continues to support
all our services including the ongoing

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mayors versus warden project um and
progressing on public facing mapping of

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community amenities and business
locations

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procurement that's something that has
really skyrocketed in in complexity

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[clears throat] scope time um and
everything in the last year or two as

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you might note by the fact that we have
a dedicated procurement officer now it's

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been wonderful so so I've also included
an attachment ment to this report which

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includes all the solicitations that were
posted in the first quarter of this

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fiscal year. Um as well as some
information on when they when they were

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awarded all that fun stuff. Um I will be
bringing regular reports similar to this

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back to council as is covered in the
procurement policy.

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uh in addition to the 16 that are in
that attachment, there were another I

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believe 13 that were initiated in Q1 but
didn't reach posting just yet. Uh and

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then since the end of Q1, so since July
1st, there's been another seven that

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have been initiated. So it's still quite
high volume. A lot of these are very

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some of the ongoing ones are very
complex large projects. There's been a

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lot more uh work required on every every
step of the phase basically from

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developing the solicitation documents to
uh dealing with the bids to award to

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contract negotiations. All of
[clears throat] these things have have

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gotten significantly um more burdensome
as as things grow.

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And then externally we continue to
support the Chester Volunteer Fire

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Department through a couple of very
significant procurements. Uh one being

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the the firetruck and the other being
the fire halt. Um you'll see on the

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actual attachment that it says TBD for
award date on the fire apparatus. I

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believe that was awarded just last week.
So preparing this report.

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» On the financial reporting and budget
side, oh I've used the wrong uh verb

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tense in this because I expected to have
had audit committee before I presented

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this report. But the audit committee
will meet later this morning uh to

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review and hopefully approve the 2526
annual audited financial statements. Um,

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and then year-end budget variance
reports, so that more operational, the

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the version that everybody might
understand better, uh, will be presented

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to council at the next, uh, regular
council meeting later in September.

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Um, other mandatory provincial reporting
is all on track, either done already on

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time or on track to be done before the
end of September at our deadlines. And,

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uh, we continue to work on the
implementation of our budget software.

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This is something that has taken a lot
longer than we would hope uh, primarily

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due to internal staffing needs. the
people who are responsible for doing

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that work also had other stuff that was
a higher priority unfortunately. Um and

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so we're still working through that. Uh
we hope to have it up and running very

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soon.
>> Tim, I would just I would just add that

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your department's also supporting uh the
the provincial reporting and the

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reporting we required to do for grants.
So that's primarily done by Jonathan in

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the public works uh with the public
works team. Um, but your department

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provides quite quite a bit of support
there and uh significant amount of work.

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So, we do that. I think it's they're
quarterly reports on some of them.

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» So, yes, some of those grant reporting.
That's a great point. Thank you. Um, so

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Shannon, our financial analyst, is the
primary point person for that as well as

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preparing our other financial statements
and reports as well as the lead for the

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quest of implementation, which is when I
talk about internal resource pressure.

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Um and yeah it there's a few things
actually and it kind of ties to the

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procurement growth as well as this grant
reporting. So there's a lot of um

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requirements for providing specific
documentation and detail for all these

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grants you know like the ICIP funds
these big money big project grants that

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are provided to us after the fact. So,
we have to spend all the money,

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consolidate our reports, submit them for
approval, and then receive that money

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back. Which actually ties into another
issue that I'm going to be working on

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addressing going forward a little better
in budgeting is that as we have these

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huge capital projects, we're spending
millions of dollars but not collecting

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the funds for that until much later.
>> There's that time period where we're

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floating that cash out of our operating
fund. Yeah.

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» Um, and it's, you know, I'm trying to
find ways to shorten that timeline as

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well as more accurately allocate the
cost of that lost cost of capital

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essentially the the interest income
we're losing there, um, should be

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allocated to those capital projects. And
that's something that I'm going to be

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working on doing going forward so that
we're more fully capturing the full cost

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of delivering these projects, not just
the direct cost of buying or building

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things.
>> More to it. And then so I would also

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just add um that's not in this report
that a significant project you your

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department's been working on is the
replacement uh of our software program.

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» Yeah. The ERP enterprise resource
planning software that is ongoing now

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with the consultant that we've hired to
help us do the needs analysis, current

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state assessment, um market analysis of
available options. So right now they're

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at the phase where they're engaging with
all the other departments outside.

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They've met with finance and IT and
leadership already. They've done their

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walkthroughs of our processes to
document the existing state and now

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they're talking with all the other uh
direct users of u our financial software

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or potential users of a financial
software to get an idea of what use

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cases we we need or have or want or or
don't need all that fun stuff.

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» Tom,
>> thank you. Word through you and I'll

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start with the CA. I want to compliment
because what I'm hearing in this is

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staff is working very diligently to
modernize us, bring us more into the

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world of reality. A lot of public stop
me and say, "What staff do? What do why

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do we have so many people?" But what I'm
hearing is many of our staff are

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overloaded
>> doing seven, eight, nine tasks trying to

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do what they originally were hired for
one staffing pro issue. And honestly,

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I've said this before, we know need
another 10 staff that really can work in

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variety of
parts of our municipal structure to

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bring a better even more service
provision because what we do is provide.

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And as we can see, the download from the
province and other higher governments is

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just creating more and more every month
that we have to deal with. And I

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compliment staff for managing as much as
they can and keeping us in a healthy

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position, but also trying to deal with
all this stuff. And and I know some

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people say no, not more people, but we
have to look at where we're going and

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what we have in the future. So, thank
you.

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» Thank you.
>> Yeah, that it t.

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» Okay. Any questions? Anybody?
>> Council.

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» Thank you. I have Thank you to the
chair. I have a quick question with the

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pre I say that word procurement criteria
um when choosing uh the applicant. Is

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there a caveat about not hiring a
US-based company? Did we not discuss

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that at any point?
>> Uh

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» did we not touch on that last year?
Yeah, we did [clears throat] touch on

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last year and so we're we're under there
are some trade agreements that I um I

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think we would have to go back to Libby
before I speak out of turn, but I think

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there's some requirements on when we can
and can't do that. So, I'm not sure that

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we could do that across the board. We
did not at that time um choose to do

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that at all. Uh I think the
recommendation from staff was that we

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not do that, but if that's something
that you're interested in, we could

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bring a report back to council. Well,
>> because and that's something that was on

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our radar anyways as a potential issue
we'd have to be addressing soon um

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because of of the recent discussions
>> and as Tara mentioned there are some

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criteria through international trade
agreements for I don't know the numbers

417
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:13,119
exactly but above certain values there's
certain restrictions we're not allowed

418
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:17,839
to place um but we can bring that back
for sure I can say that just from

419
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,400
looking at biders we don't often see a
lot of bids coming in from Americanbased

420
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:26,079
companies no
>> um one of the things that is more of an

421
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:29,440
issue is the vendors that use supplies
that they receive from American. It's

422
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,920
» hard for us to know
>> which then may or may not have tariffs

423
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,680
applied which could modify pricing
between the time we purchase something

424
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:41,200
or agree to purchase something and the
final cost because as we know those

425
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,680
things are changing very rapidly
sometimes

426
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,440
» one day to the next.
>> Yeah. And so there is some uncertainty

427
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,359
in costing that comes with that and it's
something we're we're paying attention

428
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,520
to.
>> Tom, [snorts]

429
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,800
» thank you word Weber. I think that
brings up a very good point. I'm

430
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,119
listening to many government levels talk
about who gets taxed and it's the owner

431
00:42:57,359 --> 00:43:02,160
that gets taxed. So if it's our product
that we're getting, we're going to be

432
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:06,960
taxed if it's a tariff related
situation. So we have to be prepared for

433
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:11,520
adjusting costs and understands and with
justifiable explanation why the cost is

434
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,800
being increased to follow that and be
concerned about it and how we deal with

435
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:18,800
it. And I think it is something we have
to pay attention to for sure. So I

436
00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:25,599
appreciate the update. Thank you.
>> Okay.

437
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:29,240
Thank you. Take care. Okay.
Mu lake waste.

438
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:49,119
» How are you?
>> Uh doing all right. Good morning. Um

439
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:53,760
I'll just do a very quick intro and then
Emily will do the the main part of the

440
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:58,240
presentation. But this has sort of been
part of the broader

441
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:04,640
look through the entire department just
all of our basic services and that we're

442
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:09,119
providing. But I would say certainly uh
Mil Lake has been one of the ones that

443
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:14,400
got flagged fairly early on from when I
started from staff as a item to be

444
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:17,359
looked at at some point and I think it's
just where things have sort of gone this

445
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,240
year from the feedback particularly
we've gotten from our pilot law

446
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,079
enforcement officer was like it's
something that's we've had to bring

447
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:28,160
forward a little bit sooner I think we
planned

448
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:31,599
uh with regards to the entire program
just because of it's just a reoccurring

449
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,680
and seems to be getting a little bit
worse.

450
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,640
now. So I think with that we'll wait for
Emily to dive into the main part of the

451
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,400
presentation. So
>> morning Emily.

452
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:46,400
» Morning. It's good to see everyone. Um
yeah, so we just want to provide a bit

453
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:52,319
of an update to council on what's going
on with the Mil Lake Waste Corral. Um

454
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:57,040
maybe Oh, I guess this is the first
slide. So a bit of background for

455
00:44:54,319 --> 00:45:01,520
council and any counselors that are very
familiar with the Millle Corral. The

456
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:09,839
municipality has a piece of land at Mil
Lake in Hubards where we've set up a a

457
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:13,839
corral site with a few different bins
where residents around the lake that

458
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:18,880
don't get curbside collection can put
their um waste into the corral and then

459
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:23,119
it gets picked up twice a week. I think
there's bulky collection on Mondays and

460
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:28,720
then the regular bagged items get
emptied uh from the bins on Thursdays.

461
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:34,319
So over the last about five to seven
years as we've been um told

462
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:39,200
predominantly by by law enforcement and
some past notes from previous staff is

463
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:43,920
Mil Lake this corral has been a hot spot
for illegal dumping in the municipality.

464
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,599
» Um so it's definitely been on staff's
radar and it's been on the community's

465
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:52,400
radar as well because they're the ones
visiting it every day and seeing it and

466
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,119
you know it's something for them to have
to handle as well. So, there's some uh

467
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:02,000
pieces of signage on the corral that
have been installed for um I think at

468
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:05,440
least a couple of years, and they have
instructions on how the corral should be

469
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,599
used, such as the materials that are
allowed to go in, the size of the

470
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:16,960
materials, and so forth. Unfortunately,
the signage has been ignored um likely

471
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:21,040
by certain individuals in the community.
I don't think it's certainly not

472
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,520
everybody, but there are some that have
frequently ignored the signage.

473
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Unfortunately, so over the years, um, to
our knowledge, there have been keys

474
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,520
distributed to unauthorized users of the
corral, which has also, I think, caused

475
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:37,680
some tension in the community as they
see people that aren't from there

476
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:42,800
driving up and dropping stuff off. And
also some background, um, as some may be

477
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:46,560
familiar, we have various cottage areas
in our municipality, and they're some

478
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,480
are treated differently in terms of
waste collection. So we have various

479
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:55,200
that have these bins that get collected
on a weekly basis. But there are some

480
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:59,040
cottage areas such as Larder Lake where
they get collection every two weeks just

481
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:03,520
like
yeah and then they uh they pay for their

482
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,839
own bins and they take take care of
their bins. So what are staff doing

483
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:13,040
about this? So over the last I think
couple of months uh there's been a bit

484
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:16,480
more action on this at at the corral
because summer's a very busy time at the

485
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:22,640
lake. So the amount of waste that goes
in ramps up. So, um, the plan is that on

486
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:28,480
October 1st,
staff of the solid waste department and

487
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:34,960
the bylaw enforcement team officer plan
to install a new lock on the corral that

488
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:40,240
only municipal staff and staff of GE
would have a key to get in and perhaps a

489
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,079
couple of trusted residents in the
municipality that are willing to

490
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:50,000
volunteer in cases that it would be
helpful for residents to be able to get

491
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:56,160
in. So, the plan is that on uh Wednesday
afternoons, the corral would be open by

492
00:47:52,560 --> 00:48:01,599
municipal staff. And then from about
probably noon to 1:00 p.m. um until

493
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,720
Thursday, uh residents have a chance to
put their waist out, just like if they

494
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:09,359
were putting their waist out the night
before. And then once GE comes in,

495
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,800
usually it's usually before lunchtime
that they get there and they empty the

496
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:16,480
bins, then who whoever's the truck
driver would lock it behind them and it

497
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:20,960
would be closed until the next
Wednesday.

498
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:24,480
» So, uh, the intent is for residents to
kind of use it as their regular curbside

499
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,760
drop off place.
>> Yeah.

500
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:34,160
» Um, so there's a bit of good news. Uh we
have been able to uh through working

501
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:39,359
with GE approve curbside collection
officially on two of the roads in that

502
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:43,920
area. So Mil Lake Road number one, which
is the main road, actually has a little

503
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:48,079
extension that goes around the lake that
wasn't getting curbside. So that's

504
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:52,640
officially been approved. And Milbrook
Lane, which you access off the power

505
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:57,920
lines, um but it is a pretty good
quality road. That's also been approved.

506
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:02,160
So those two roads will start curbside
collection officially on October 2nd.

507
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:04,800
» Are they plowed in the winter?
>> Yes. Yeah. To our understanding.

508
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:10,079
» Just
>> I believe Mil Lake Road is a provincial

509
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:14,319
road. So they Yeah. department
>> uh clears it. So we're still

510
00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:18,160
investigating options with GE for
hopefully fingers crossed doing curbside

511
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,839
collection on Mil Lake West on the other
side of the lake as well. But it is a

512
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,680
quite narrow road so there's definitely
constraints there with getting a truck

513
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:30,559
back. And we plan to send a written
notice to all property owners within the

514
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:35,359
next couple of business days so that uh
they can get sufficient notice about the

515
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:38,960
the lock change and about curbside
starting up so they can get their green

516
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:44,559
bins. So the purpose of this approach as
I've already mentioned is to um help

517
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:49,359
property owners around the lake use the
site as they would put their waste out

518
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:54,319
on a normal day for collection and put
it out the day. Technically, according

519
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:58,240
to our bylaw, uh residents shouldn't put
it out until dusk of the day before

520
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:02,079
collection just to help minimize the
chances of animals getting in and

521
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,960
neighbors seeing your waste and that
kind of thing.

522
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,240
» We're a little lenient on that. So, and
this is new, so we're going to give them

523
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:12,079
at least the afternoon to put their
stuff out. Another goal is to help

524
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:16,240
prevent unauthorized users throughout
the week getting into the corral and

525
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:21,440
control the amount of waste that
residents are putting into the corral

526
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:26,480
because um right now as some admitted
it's become easy to go there on a daily

527
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:31,200
basis and dump a bit at a time which
seemingly isn't a big deal but folks

528
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:33,760
aren't quite paying attention to maybe
how much they're putting out when

529
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,920
they're putting a little bit out every
day. So there could be more than the

530
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:42,480
allowable amount. So, we have three
different pictures just to give a

531
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:48,240
council an idea um of the types of
misuse at the site. So, um I think as

532
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:54,559
you saw in the previous picture, there's
often um waste loose on the ground of

533
00:50:52,000 --> 00:51:00,079
the corral. Waste is not nice to deal
with. So, some items in the bag, it's

534
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,440
really unpleasant for those even that go
in every day. And that's something we've

535
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:09,839
heard a lot that everyone's frustrated
by. electronics get put into the bins as

536
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:14,319
you've seen uh in that picture. Fridges
are frequently disposed of in there even

537
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,920
though we clearly have signage that says
those materials are not allowed. Also,

538
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:23,920
our curbside program does not accept
fridges. Um so, uh back last month,

539
00:51:22,319 --> 00:51:28,800
unfortunately, we had a little bit of
vandalism. Nothing too crazy, but

540
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:32,880
someone went in presumably with a key
and did some spray painting on some of

541
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,680
the bins and on some of the things that
were left there. So, a bit of just a bit

542
00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:42,640
of a timeline of key events. On July
31st of this year, our staff sent an

543
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:46,319
email to a representative of the Melake
Association explaining that the

544
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:51,760
household hazardous waste bin at the
site is being removed due to uh safety

545
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:57,359
concerns and GE would stop collecting
unacceptable items and a new lock would

546
00:51:54,079 --> 00:52:02,559
be installed on August 12th of this
year. That was the original plan. So

547
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:07,760
between uh about August 1st and 12th, we
received a lot of emails from residents.

548
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:12,480
Uh perhaps councelor Coulen as well and
I think uh council may have also gotten

549
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:15,920
some written correspondence. Um
predominant concern is that there's a

550
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:21,040
lot of weekenders and seasonal residents
that only are there on the weekends. So

551
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:26,480
by having it closed when they're there,
it's not of use. They find it infeasible

552
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:33,200
for them to use it. Another big concern
was the um only uh letting people know

553
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,280
of this change two weeks in advance and
folks felt that that was a bit too quick

554
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:45,040
to adjust to the change.
So, next slide, please. So, on uh August

555
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:50,400
7th, myself and uh my colleague at the
landfill did knocking around the lake

556
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:55,839
from about 5 to 7:30 p.m. to get people
when they're home. We plan to go to all

557
00:52:52,480 --> 00:53:00,800
the places, but we had a lot of long but
meaningful conversations with a few

558
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:04,240
owners about eight property owners and
these were really great conversations

559
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,920
where it was I think a lot of common
ground was found between us and the

560
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:12,319
residents because we were able to
explain right at their door what's

561
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:16,240
happening. So on August 12th, the
director of solid waste, uh, Scott,

562
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:20,720
myself, and the by law enforcement
officer met with three members of the

563
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:24,880
association in a members personal
garage. He kind of serves as the main

564
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:28,720
point of contact for the association. So
it was a chance for us to hear directly

565
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:32,800
from them in person.
>> Sorry, councelor.

566
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,800
» Yes, you were. And yes, councelor Ken
also was in attendance. So four of us in

567
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:42,640
total.
So that was good. And on August 13th, we

568
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:48,559
and informed the association that a new
lock date was set to September 30th as

569
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:52,640
per their request. And the municipality
would let two trusted residents have

570
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:57,119
keys for emergencies if anyone would
like to volunteer to do that. And then

571
00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,880
on August 14th, councelor Kman and I
went to the head of Mil Lake to catch

572
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:05,760
cottagers as they were going up in their
boats. Um there's a good group of about

573
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:10,880
10 to 15 people there ready for us,
which was great. and we had a a great

574
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,720
meaningful chat and heard a lot of
concerns. I think predominantly it was

575
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:20,400
seasonal residents who feel that they
are most impacted by this change.

576
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:24,559
So in terms of next steps is kind of
what what we're thinking at this point.

577
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:29,520
So within the next uh few days we plan
to put out a written notice with these

578
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:34,880
changes and expected guidelines of the
corral to all property owners using it

579
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:39,920
so that it's it's very clear how it
should be used. Um, and then on

580
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:43,200
September 17th, we I think hope to come
back to council during a policy and

581
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:47,760
strategy session and talk about our
waste bylaw more generally and how that

582
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,640
relates to all these community drop off
areas. And ongoing, our bylaw

583
00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:56,720
enforcement officer will is recording
incidents of illegal dumping and

584
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:01,440
improper use of the corral using
techniques that most bylaw officers use.

585
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:06,319
Um, and then there's kind of two
approaches. The first is, you know,

586
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:11,040
education, but in kind of severe
situations or if there's someone that's

587
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:16,240
unauthorized using the corral that's
found, um, then there is an opportunity

588
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:20,640
for issuing a summary fence ticket.
>> If I might just add one item just in

589
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:24,480
terms of the photos that you see there,
that's a relatively mild case. the bylaw

590
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:28,240
enforcement officers has at least four
instances this year where they've

591
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:32,960
basically spent the bulk of the day
cleaning that corral out because none of

592
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:37,200
the waste was put in the bins properly
to allow it. So that's where a lot of

593
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:43,359
our concern is coming as well. It's just
abuse is just that's a relatively small

594
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:46,480
sample of what's some of the issues um
staff has been dealing with.

595
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:52,720
» Terra,
>> yeah, I just wanted to add a couple of

596
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,760
more uh comments for context. Um, so the
first slide you saw said five to seven

597
00:55:54,559 --> 00:56:00,799
years. This has sort of been an
enforcement challenge. Uh, it's probably

598
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:04,640
been longer than that. Uh, 20 years is
probably closer to what it's it's been a

599
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:09,520
challenge ever since you build them.
>> Yeah. And, uh, we had cameras out there

600
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,359
at one point that were in a a personal
residence of one of the neighboring

601
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:18,960
properties just to keep an eye on this.
Uh, monitoring those, uh, cameras became

602
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:23,920
such a big challenge that we ended up
taking them out. it was um the the

603
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:28,480
amount of staff time uh that goes into
monitoring this and then the amount of

604
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:32,880
time we're putting into GES. I know uh
the second point I wanted to raise is

605
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:38,880
you and I have had a discussion Scott uh
around uh sort of service level and the

606
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,720
costs of servicing this compared to sort
of the average cost of waste collection

607
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:47,920
for a property. So that might be a
little bit of um helpful context for

608
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:51,920
council to have if you have that.
Yeah, certainly we've been trying to

609
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,760
parse out the numbers with that and
certainly

610
00:56:53,440 --> 00:57:01,839
if you look at the broader curbside
collection between 90 and

611
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:05,760
say $100 roughly per property depending
how you slice up the number of

612
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,760
properties that are within the system.
Mil Lake falls in roughly the same

613
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:16,160
amount
per per property costwise, but when you

614
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:20,640
start adding on all these cleanups, it's
very quickly adds about another few

615
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:27,599
percentage points. So the four is
probably added close now we're pushing

616
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:32,240
19 to about 20ish% already above what
that baseline amount is. So the more

617
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:36,720
cleanups we end up having to do each
year, it keeps pushing that them further

618
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:41,280
beyond basically the general range of
what the baseline looks like in terms of

619
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,599
the cost.
>> And then that doesn't include the

620
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,040
enforcement [clears throat] cost.
>> Yeah. Who's next? Andre or

621
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:54,240
» uh council.
>> Council, thank you. I appreciate the the

622
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:58,079
report. I can um I have a few ideas, but
I'd like to discuss it when we go in

623
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,960
camera. Thank you.
>> Okay.

624
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,760
Canval

625
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:15,920
thing what you're giving us an update on
and I appreciate that you know

626
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:21,040
» um
you know communal boxes are always a

627
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:27,520
problem you know um I think almost all
of us have some communal boxes and they

628
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:32,000
um [clears throat]
they're it never goes well and then

629
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:38,000
every once in a while it gets bad,
really bad. And then we somehow, even

630
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:42,160
though we're more on the policy and
budgeting side of things, we get drugged

631
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:48,160
in as elected officials and sometimes
are trying to manage it and are helped

632
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:56,880
uh with the communication part of it.
I don't remember when our uh hauling

633
00:58:52,079 --> 00:59:00,480
contract comes due, but we do have a lot
of these problematic roads throughout

634
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:07,520
the municipality and they're a
consequence of old development.

635
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:13,520
um you know and um for any developers
out there that want to rage against our

636
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:17,839
current regulatory framework and
subdivision that require proper roads

637
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:20,640
and all this stuff. This is exactly the
reason why

638
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:25,440
» we have this now
>> because you know these sort of issues

639
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:32,559
become rampant when we don't have proper
access to properties. But nonetheless,

640
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:39,119
we have these uh old legacy developments
that have poor access and u as a result

641
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:44,559
we have these middle bins. But is there
any chance that we could in the next

642
00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:49,760
contract look at adding
you know more small vehicles to try to

643
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,760
get up in those
>> these difficult to reach um areas. I

644
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:58,319
don't know. I know obviously everything
comes at a premium, but I think managing

645
00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:02,640
these boxes ends up being hidden costs
anyway or or latent costs that don't

646
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:07,920
they're not part of the primary
contract, but ends up as extras later.

647
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:14,000
And if we actually factored that in,
we'd find that maybe it it's not such a

648
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:17,680
big cost in the end. And obviously a
better service level if you can actually

649
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:20,960
reach people at their own property.
>> I don't know what the possibility is.

650
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,319
Maybe we can never get them all because
some of these maybe some of these roads

651
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:28,880
are just so bad. But you know in
Bazewater in the cottage area that was

652
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:32,799
originally it's called cottage road for
example it was developed as cottages.

653
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,680
People are there only a few months of
the year and they were gone but then

654
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:41,280
they become permanent residences
sometimes and then they expect a certain

655
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:46,160
level of service. It's very difficult.
You know we have this the same situation

656
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,119
I think building out in in this area as
well.

657
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:52,319
» Yeah
>> and new Ross as well. I know there's a

658
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:55,920
number of back roaded areas that people
love their cottages so much that

659
01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:58,559
eventually they retire there and they
live there forever.

660
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,599
» Oh, I've I've had these issues in
Chester Grant rand.

661
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:05,119
» You know, it would be interesting to
hear some ideas from staff, you know, as

662
01:01:03,359 --> 01:01:07,920
we get closer to our new hauling
contract. Um,

663
01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:11,440
» the contract was just renewed in the
last year, year and a half,

664
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,799
» so we're screwed.
>> Uh, well,

665
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,440
» I think there's discussions. say you can
still talk

666
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,280
» to this point. Yeah, I I would through
your chair to Deputy Warren. It's I

667
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,720
think there's certainly opportunities. I
always have that discussion with the

668
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:30,880
contractor certainly with Mil Lake.
They've been accommodating to allow us

669
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:33,680
to all to shift towards this curbside
>> model, but it's certainly something

670
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,319
we'll certainly take note of and take a
look at.

671
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:37,760
» Yeah, really interesting uh problem to
try to solve.

672
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:44,079
» Yeah.
>> You know, I don't know what the answer

673
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:47,440
is. Uh but uh you know that's very
operational and for you to manage but uh

674
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,799
you know
>> some of this is operational but when

675
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,760
operations hit service levels that's
when we try

676
01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:57,760
» that's a difficulty we we intersect with
the financial lever which is in

677
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,599
council's court bit but
>> Sharon

678
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:05,839
» thank you
>> I think she's next council

679
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:11,280
» I know that it certainly for Lauder Lake
they had a similar issue not quite as

680
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:18,160
severe but people would be just leaving
items because they leave on the weekend.

681
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:23,040
But since they bought a metal container,
they don't seem to have any issues

682
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:27,440
because GE has a key to that and
everybody on [clears throat]

683
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:33,520
the road has a key to put their garbage
in this locked bin. And it seems to

684
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:37,680
work. These people have a key to the
corral and they can either throw it over

685
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:44,240
the fence, which I'm sure people have,
or they have a key to put things in. But

686
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:47,760
I'm sure by being fenced in, I can see
people just I don't know how high the

687
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:54,240
fence is, but just throwing it over the
fence and out they go.

688
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:57,520
» Um, so it enables them to do that. I
mean, I would be one to say, I don't

689
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:01,520
know why we have a fence there. If we
had the bins and they were used

690
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:07,799
properly, there wouldn't be a need for a
fence. I know it's expensive fence and

691
01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:07,799
but it encourages

692
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:16,480
maybe bad behavior. I don't know. But it
I know it will be cleaned up and to keep

693
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:21,280
it that way is certainly a challenge.
Maybe people once they realize that they

694
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:27,440
only have certain times to take their
garbage, they'll respect it more. It's

695
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:32,680
only probably a few, but
>> those few make it hard for everybody.

696
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:39,920
» Council,
>> thank you. Um, I guess I can address S

697
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:45,760
uh Shar and Council um Church first.
>> It's not a few. It's quite a few.

698
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:50,400
» Okay. Um, so if this model changes and
there's collection services only on an

699
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:55,680
open window from Wednesday noon till
Thursday till the key gets locked back

700
01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:01,680
up by the GE rep, then it doesn't
service the weekenders and there's at

701
01:03:58,319 --> 01:04:05,039
least 60 or 65 on the lake on the out
which don't have so they take the

702
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:08,559
garbage home. They would have to take
the garbage home and or they would just

703
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,680
leave it. I'm going to leave it outside
the corral and like you said I'm going

704
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:16,079
to throw it in the corral which is
currently going on. Another large

705
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:20,559
concern that was brought to all of our
attention was

706
01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:25,119
outside people of the milake area having
keys. So are the keys copied? Can these

707
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:29,359
keys be copied?
>> Yeah, they always

708
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:32,240
» technically they're like the formal do
not copy.

709
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:37,200
» Yeah, they're double st right. They can
>> they can be copied. So, for example, two

710
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:41,440
days ago, I got an email from a resident
that said he saw somebody and he knows

711
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,240
the area. He lived there for many years.
He said, "This is not your place to

712
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:48,880
store your garbage." He said, "This is
our dump." And he said, "No, Kaja Meadow

713
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:54,400
is your is your colle where you put your
and he is not from Mil Lake." So, the

714
01:04:52,559 --> 01:05:01,200
abuse is not just from the residents
there. Um, the abuse is from outside the

715
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:07,760
residents who have opportunity corral.
So the concern that most people have is

716
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:12,319
Thursday will not work for them for the
simple fact that I come in my cottage on

717
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:16,880
Friday and I leave my cottage on Sunday.
So the conversations that um Ammy and I

718
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:22,799
had and Scott and I had over the last
several meetings were if the access

719
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,440
point was on Sunday or Monday, then they
would be able to leave the garbage on

720
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:29,200
Sunday. [clears throat]
Right now, how it stands is they have a

721
01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:33,839
key, they open up on Sunday, they put
their garbage in

722
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:37,680
other than the abuse component. They
lock it and they go away, go back to

723
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:42,160
their home. So from Sunday to Thursday,
it it is it's no longer part of the you

724
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:47,039
have to drop your garbage off the day
before like for the rest of us. So it

725
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:52,319
sits there for four days. So I don't
know what the answer is. I just know

726
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:58,000
that I'm going to say it here.
If it stays the way it is, there's no

727
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,920
resolve. It's going to continue being
abused. The key system has to be

728
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:06,160
monitored at some level, more so
stringently than it is now. Or if it's

729
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:10,559
going to be a Thursday pickup, then the
people that are not permanent residents

730
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:13,440
that don't have curbside pickup, we'll
have to have line item taken off the

731
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,079
taxes.
>> But but if if

732
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:20,000
» because they don't have a providable
service for garbage collection. If we

733
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:22,480
give a couple of keys to permanent
residents there though, they can go and

734
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,079
get them.
>> So they're

735
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,640
» I mean I know it's a pain, but
>> so they're going to open it up on Sunday

736
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:30,640
is what you're saying. Yeah,
>> they could open it Sunday.

737
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:35,039
» And I think the reason for the extension
till the end of September was to the

738
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:37,200
bulk of the from what we understand the
bulk of the seasonal residents will be

739
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:41,760
done for the year.
>> Correct. So will give us the winner to

740
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:46,079
consider our options longer term and
whether or not the small

741
01:06:43,406 --> 01:06:49,280
[clears throat and snorts] is but
changing the log is sort of an

742
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,880
intermission. We'll have to figure out
what the longer term and finding some

743
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:59,520
accommodation for the seasonal
residents. But we also note that there's

744
01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:02,880
the other lakes that they have they have
been taking the garbage home themselves.

745
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:07,920
» They don't get this service.
>> That's what I do at our camp. So that's

746
01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:12,640
that's fundamentally where some you know
not not to ignore their concerns and

747
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:15,839
what they've said there but on the other
hand we've got other customers that

748
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:20,400
don't get that level of service are
paying the same level of tax which also

749
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,039
includes the operation of Kaiser Meadow.
So

750
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,079
» it's it's not a collection fee. It's
it's a solid waste fee. So it's it's the

751
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:28,160
processing and
>> we're still managing the waste no matter

752
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:33,359
how it gets to
>> Yeah.

753
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:38,480
So if it's going to be open on Wednesday
till Wednesday at noon potentially

754
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:43,039
that's our that's your proposal and and
it closes when the garbage is picked up

755
01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:48,079
currently now there's two dates that
come they come for bulk on Monday

756
01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:50,960
correct so if all everything's going to
be picked up on one day there's not

757
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,319
going to be a bulk service on Monday
correct

758
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:57,599
» probably not at this point
>> so then how are we going to be managing

759
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:03,880
all that waste
>> yeah at one trip. If we have to

760
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:03,880
currently do it in two stages,

761
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,520
I
>> think right now is when they switch to

762
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,720
curbside, they'll be getting the same
service as the regular curbside. So,

763
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:13,839
they'll be able to take the bulkies at
that particular time.

764
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,279
» And Milber Lane has seven residents on
it, correct?

765
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:21,657
» It's about seven.
>> Yeah. And Mil Lake number one has how

766
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,640
many residents?
[clears throat]

767
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:29,040
» I think I counted about 27.
>> Okay. So that takes that takes 34 people

768
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,719
off our total.
>> Yeah. They'll just get picked up right

769
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,520
at
>> Exactly. And I'm all for it. That's

770
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:37,920
great. And I've got many emails
regarding that and they're they're

771
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:42,400
pleased as punch. So 34 out of our 160
total, we have roughly 160. So we're

772
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:46,480
still looking at 130 people using that
crowd.

773
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:49,600
» So it's it's a great impact that 34 pe
34 families have now will not be

774
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:53,839
utilizing that crowd, which is
fantastic. And there's obviously a way

775
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:57,920
forward that you could widen the road
like west or whatever and then take

776
01:08:55,839 --> 01:09:04,719
people but it still doesn't complement
the people on the other side of the lake

777
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:10,480
if it's on a Thursday pickup unless they
have just them have a key or the keys

778
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,560
only managed to those people. Those who
no longer will get curbside pickup

779
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:18,719
eventually when this project is is is in
this first stage. Then if the people

780
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:21,679
that are not offered curbside pickup,
will they be receiving a key?

781
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:23,120
» No.
>> No.

782
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:25,440
» No. Exactly.
>> Not if they have curbside. They wouldn't

783
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,319
need one.
>> Those who do not get the service of

784
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,520
curbside, right?
>> Well, they wouldn't need one. No.

785
01:09:31,088 --> 01:09:35,839
[clears throat]
>> All the residents of Mil Brook Lane now

786
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:39,359
have curbside. They're not not a factor.
So those who who do not get the service

787
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:43,440
of curbside,
>> they will not be getting a key. So then

788
01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:48,640
they take their waste home. And that was
an argument that Emily and Scott, you

789
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:51,759
and I faced many times over. I'm not
taking my garbage home. I'll leave it in

790
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:57,440
the woods or I'll leave it outside the
corral. So then we have another issue

791
01:09:54,159 --> 01:10:00,000
regarding the abuse of the corral.
>> I'm just trying to see both sides.

792
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:03,679
» I think that's fair, but that's a
decision of the residents if they want

793
01:10:01,679 --> 01:10:05,360
to delete stuff from their property or
within their neighborhoods.

794
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,199
» Yeah,
>> we're trying to deal with the crowd as

795
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,320
being abused and causing
>> Oh, I don't take kindly to those those

796
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,880
wording threats. I, you know, I I stood
up to that as well. I thought it was

797
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,239
ridiculous to even have that
conversation that someone would say that

798
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,600
to a staff member. So,
>> I'm just trying to, you know,

799
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:25,360
» we got to do something.
>> Absolutely.

800
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:30,080
» And as said, once we get into the
winter, we'll [clears throat] we'll get

801
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:33,760
to the end of the the current season as
we are, but after that, we've got to

802
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:37,440
move to some sort of different model
because

803
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:41,520
» where we're going is not sustainable.
>> And there's I would say there's a equity

804
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,880
argument with the rest of the res
rateayers. makes sense

805
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:50,400
» if we have to keep on going back year
after year doing four plus cleanups

806
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:54,159
» and I appreciate you you us you guys
moving the date from August then

807
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:57,760
September and then October you know that
that that is a compromisable decision

808
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:03,440
and and I think the residents really
appreciated that thank you

809
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:08,480
» okay I can't who's next
>> thank you I I I actually was going to

810
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:13,600
ask that question because I how many
residents are back here I'm shocked like

811
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:17,520
I because I don't the area. So, you're
talking likeund and some civics back

812
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:21,760
there
>> that will not be getting.

813
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:25,679
» No, but that but that that's I didn't
know it was that many civics

814
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:30,480
» on that lake. Wow.
>> Notably, well, it's a very small amount,

815
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:35,360
but you as you may know, Mil Lake is
right on the brink of HRM's border. So,

816
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:41,280
there's actually a couple cottages and
island that's in HRM. I think one is

817
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:46,239
split. It's like half our municipality
and half HR.

818
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:50,560
» But it's not a significant number, but
you know, if things weren't monitored,

819
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:55,840
» well, those residents may not.
>> So, so

820
01:11:52,800 --> 01:12:01,600
I mean, how many is you might know, how
many people don't go there in the

821
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:06,159
winter? It's just a summer thing. And
being, you know, the retired postmaster,

822
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:11,120
there are at least a countless member,
probably 60, maybe 65 that do not get

823
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:14,960
right, mail service through our post
office. So they, so in order, that was

824
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:18,000
Emily's point that they didn't get a two
weeks notice. So people, some people

825
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,679
aren't even aware that of these
effective changes. They come in from

826
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:24,400
their current home, they pull in, they
go to the cottage, they dump the gar,

827
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,080
they put the garbage on Sunday, and they
leave. And but that was the spoil. That

828
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:32,159
was how it was serviced for all those
years. And now we have to change that

829
01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:36,320
for that reason. So I roughly say about
60 people probably on the male services

830
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,920
that that do not live in the district.
Am I somewhere close to that number you

831
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,360
would say Emily or Scott?
>> That's probably

832
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:49,440
» So we decided or it was spoken at one of
these uh um meetings right by the lake

833
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:53,920
um that potentially we could get we have
their mail service because we know where

834
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:57,920
to mail their their their tax, right?
So, we were thinking of putting in some

835
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,360
sort of um note at the bottom, you know,
uh with direct contact for the

836
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:05,840
municipality if any changes because
their mail goes to their residents, the

837
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,440
current residents. So, the flyer that
went out, which is the talk trash flyer

838
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:13,440
that went out, uh we delivered several
in the community, uh it doesn't pertain

839
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:17,679
directly to them because the talks I'm
I'm going off track. The talk trash

840
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:21,679
talker is for all the broader reason how
to how to look after and utilize your

841
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:28,400
your your waste correctly. So, to answer
your question, I'd say about 60 maybe 65

842
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:32,239
residents um do not live in the district
as a permanent resident.

843
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:37,760
» Great. Andre, we got to get moving
because we got a meeting in 10 minutes.

844
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,800
» Sorry, I'm got to turn some microphones
off there. [clears throat]

845
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:47,199
» Okay. Um yeah, obviously we got to wrap
this up, but um you know, actually a

846
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:51,600
couple of things. Obvious when you have
chronic abuse that's happened for

847
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:56,320
decades and then you try to bring order
or discipline

848
01:13:53,920 --> 01:14:01,520
um you know that's going to be received
by anybody that is receiving that

849
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:07,679
discipline as a reduction of service and
there's going to be outrage even though

850
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:12,239
obviously it was never the intent for
you to be able to drop garbage off

851
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:15,679
anytime like I'm sure at your primary
residence as well as mine waste is

852
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:20,880
collected
Once every two weeks I put out my bulky,

853
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:26,159
I put out my my waist, they come take it
away. If I leave it out there a week

854
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:30,480
early and it and it gets pulled all over
the road by animals or whatever, then I

855
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:34,640
have to go pick it up.
>> That's how most of us in this

856
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:39,600
municipality receive our service. And
when you have a a group drop off

857
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:44,560
situation like this and you're able to
just fling bags over a fence anytime you

858
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:49,840
want because that's just the level of
service that you've been enjoying for,

859
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:54,080
you know, decades and then suddenly you
say, "Okay, that's not longer allowed.

860
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:59,199
It's like a child that received
discipline for the first time, you know,

861
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:03,120
after a decade, you know, just total
confusion. What is this? Why why are you

862
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:08,719
suddenly telling me I can't do this?"
Well, that's where we're at. And there's

863
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:15,920
going to be a lot of outrage, no doubt,
by people who are expecting to receive

864
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:20,239
this pseudo level of service that they
were never entitled to for many decades.

865
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,920
» It's going to be difficult politically
probably.

866
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:30,400
» I I actually sort of agree with
councelor uh Church that having the

867
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:34,719
fence kind of invites people just to lob
garbage bombs over it. it. I'm not sure

868
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:39,280
what the purpose of the fence is. It
does kind of like almost anybody with a

869
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:44,239
good throwing arm is just going to whip
it over there and and and keep truck and

870
01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:48,320
if it's locked or not. So I I I think
maybe, you know, I'm not it's very

871
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:51,040
operational, but maybe something staff
may want to consider is just removing

872
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:55,360
the fence.
>> Yeah, I think it was originally because

873
01:15:53,040 --> 01:16:00,159
they're concerned of bears, but
>> yeah, it's created, as you say, the ant

874
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:02,480
consequences create a greater problem.
So,

875
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,640
» and it may have been one of the early
the early solutions and so we have other

876
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:10,719
options we can look at and it's a little
bit of out of sight out of mind right

877
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:13,600
it's covered up and so you don't you
don't have to look at it every time you

878
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,719
drive by necessarily
>> use wooden boxes is what we use but way

879
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:19,760
back in the day
>> but I think that's what we can do over

880
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:24,000
the winter something interim this is an
interim measure and then we can look at

881
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:27,760
» shortterm solution while we figure out a
better solution

882
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:32,400
nonetheless I guess to circle back and
not get too into the weeds where we

883
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:38,000
don't belong is um you know I think
politically this is a difficult topic

884
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:42,400
because of this perceived reduction in
service and you know you know all of us

885
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:46,960
as counselors have to do our best to
manage the communication with those that

886
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:52,320
contact us and explain that this is very
normal and you know we all have these

887
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:58,000
problems and and that it's just managing
the expectation of the residents and um

888
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:01,760
you know you maybe this will work you
can try it and um you you know, and then

889
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:08,280
I guess we'll just have to continue to
manage the symptoms until we get to

890
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:08,280
something that's more equitable. Yeah.

891
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:14,239
» Thank you. I applaud the staff. Um
they're doing an amazing job trying to

892
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:19,840
keep, you know, the residents calm and
this will definitely mitigate the

893
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:23,600
illegal dumping. Absolutely. And that's
probably one of the biggest caveats as

894
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:28,400
to why why this this this is being
offered is the illegal dumping of of

895
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:32,719
other residents other than other than
the milite residents. So I I applaud

896
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:40,560
that. Thank you.
>> Okay. So proceed I guess and

897
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:45,120
» keep thinking about better ways.
>> Okay. So we got u I think that was the

898
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:48,880
end of the agenda.
>> Tom.

899
01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:51,360
» No. Well, only Tom.
>> Yeah. And we have we have audit

900
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,320
committee.
>> Yes. But I'm going to do Tom, then I'm

901
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:58,239
taking a 10-minute break, and then we're
going to have audit committee.

902
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:02,800
» Tom,
>> thank you, Warden Weber. As usual, I

903
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:06,080
have some things to bring up today. And
I'm glad to have this opportunity

904
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:10,960
because I think it's important. Um, I
want to report on last month I attended

905
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:15,679
a conference in Monton dealing with
assets and infrastructure, learning

906
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:19,840
about what it is all about and working
with some of our staff that were also

907
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:23,840
attending. I found it very informative
and very educational to me on some of

908
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:27,360
the things that I need to think about
when making those decisions and how to

909
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:32,000
look. And as we know in our
municipality, infrastructure and assets

910
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:36,560
are going to be very important how we
move forward and what we do and how we

911
01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:39,520
offer services to people and developers
and others. And I think that was a very

912
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:44,640
good opportunity. I want to thank
council for supporting training in that.

913
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:49,280
On September 2nd, I had an opportunity
under an invite to speak with about 30

914
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:53,760
people out on the Chester Peninsula
about deer and ticks. It was a very good

915
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:59,120
conversation. Some of you also had been
invited. Um, I did attend and give an

916
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:03,199
update from what I could say. And we
were working also with a lady online

917
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:09,280
from Halifax that directly works about
the deer, the tick situation. Very

918
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:12,480
complex, very hard to understand. And
many people think that deer are the

919
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:17,040
culprits. They are part of it, but the
small animals and rodents also carry

920
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:20,880
them. And they're a very challenging
thing, ticks, and it's creating a lot of

921
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:23,920
loss. So, we're working to get
communications with all levels of

922
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:28,960
government. very pleased the provincial
government put I think 1.2 million into

923
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:34,800
Aadia to research some things that I
think are well overdue. I know for our

924
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:41,199
medical uh our community health sorry
our OC complex our healthuh center have

925
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:45,199
tripled just about in the cases of lime
and tick disease that they're seeing and

926
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:49,440
people going to hospitals and doctors
it's huge it's becoming very difficult

927
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:53,920
so very good opportunity I thank for
that opportunity

928
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:58,320
this last Tuesday night and Sunday night
came to the end of the summer concert

929
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:03,679
series at the Chester band stand in
Lurley Park both I felt were very well

930
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:07,040
attended this summer. I thank staff for
keeping the properties and everything

931
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:12,080
looking good and the opportunity to have
so many people come together and enjoy

932
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:16,080
so many varieties of music and
entertainment and it's good to see that

933
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:20,560
happening and I encourage that. I want
to personally thank Aaron Gore and her

934
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:24,480
many volunteers, the sponsors, the
participants, the musicians and everyone

935
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:27,920
attended. It's it's been wonderful and
it's very important and I think it's

936
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:31,360
something we have to keep supporting and
encouraging. I know counselor church and

937
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:36,640
I were at many of them and we enjoyed
them immensely and and other counselors.

938
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:42,800
So it's important um yesterday I got to
attend the 101st birthday of Walter

939
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:49,199
Weber. Uh Walter Weber is a resident of
Chester, a Legion uh veteran and a

940
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:54,080
Legion member for 72 years. Um a
wonderful couple of hours and I got to

941
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:58,239
bring greetings. It was very wonderful
and warming. We are very lucky in this

942
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:04,400
municipality. We have two gentlemen that
are both 100 or 101. Uh Steuart Carver

943
01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:08,800
in Chester Grant is 100. And the
Legion's hoping to get both of them

944
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,920
together and make a little uh picture
and opportunity. You don't have it very

945
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:16,880
often, but it was a very heartwarming
opportunity. And I think it was so nice

946
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:21,600
that the Legion housed the birthday time
and we were able to attend. In that

947
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:28,400
discussion, I want to see if council has
an an appetite for at the next policy

948
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:33,679
and strategy session or at a future one
I should say to talk about deer and the

949
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:41,360
possibility of the restriction of
feeding deer because it's becoming more

950
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:45,199
aware that people do it and I'm not sure
it's I think it's a very complicated

951
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:49,840
thing but I'm interested to see if
council would in a future date want to

952
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,719
discuss it at a policy and strategy
session and I open that to the

953
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:56,000
opportunity there.
>> I don't see an issue with us talking

954
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,719
about that and and how to control the
deer problem at all. It's just that it's

955
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,920
not simple.
>> No. And I agree with you fully. I just

956
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:06,639
want to see if staff would put it on the
agenda for a future policy and strategy

957
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,639
session and then I could inform people.
We're definitely

958
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,520
» I mean I've already had a discussion
with them. The problem really is is how

959
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:15,360
to damn well enforce it
>> and I know there's experts out there

960
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:19,120
that are having the same challenge. So I
think it's a responsibility we can

961
01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:24,080
» something we can do. So, I'll leave that
with our CEO to see if that happens. And

962
01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:27,360
otherwise than that, I think we're very
clear on what we have to say. Thank you

963
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:32,239
for the opportunity to bring that.
>> Okay. We're going to take a 10-minute

964
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:35,840
recess. Then we're going to Well, we're
I need a motion to adjour. No,

965
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:38,880
» to take a recess
>> to take a recess and then we'll do audit

966
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:42,000
and uh
>> then I have to come back into council

967
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:46,960
and then we have a little bit of council
and some

968
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:50,199
» in camera. Okay. Well, we're just having
a recess.

969
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:41,840
Okay, we'll call the regular council
meeting back to order and we only have

970
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:47,920
the one item and that is we require a
motion to approve the audited financial

971
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:52,400
statements. I'd like to sorry
before we do that

972
02:02:50,719 --> 02:02:55,840
» uh I'd like to have my microphone on
please.

973
02:02:54,239 --> 02:03:00,320
» As is tradition here
>> Oh yeah.

974
02:02:57,599 --> 02:03:07,840
» Uh we [clears throat] have a birthday uh
boy in the house here and he I like to

975
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:12,320
uh compare it to an odometer on a car.
Um, now now now when you look at your

976
02:03:10,239 --> 02:03:18,000
car, sometimes it turns over to it's
quite a thing if it turns over 100,000

977
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:22,960
kilometers or 80,000. Well, his first
digit actually tomorrow we'll be

978
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:27,119
switching over and that's a uh quite a
milestone. So I think we should sing

979
02:03:25,119 --> 02:03:30,880
happy birthday to Alan Weber.
>> It's tomorrow.

980
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:34,960
» And it's tomorrow, but it's a it's a pre
pre preemptive strike.

981
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:40,400
» And how many years? Well, if you you do
the math, you you you'll figure it out

982
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:43,840
from my from my preamble.
>> He's starting to get over.

983
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:50,320
» Happy birthday [singing]
to you.

984
02:03:46,239 --> 02:03:55,679
» Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, [singing]

985
02:03:52,400 --> 02:04:01,595
dear Alen.
>> Happy birthday [singing] to you.

986
02:03:59,575 --> 02:04:01,595
[applause]

987
02:04:01,599 --> 02:04:06,960
finally old enough to go to [cheering]
the tavern for a beer.

988
02:04:05,470 --> 02:04:11,119
[laughter]
>> Now you can continue, sir.

989
02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:15,040
» Okay. So, I need a motion to approve uh
the financial.

990
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:16,560
» I still move that.
>> Do we have a second?

991
02:04:16,239 --> 02:04:21,199
» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. Discussion. All

992
02:04:18,719 --> 02:04:24,239
those in favor? Opposed? Motion is
carried. Now, I don't have any other

993
02:04:22,639 --> 02:04:27,599
items here. I is in camera.
>> Just two in camera items.

994
02:04:25,599 --> 02:04:30,400
» Okay. So, a motion to green camera.
>> So, moved.

995
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:35,119
Second
>> discussion. All those in favor? Opposed?

996
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:38,119
Motion's carried.
>> Council.

997
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:43,599
» Yeah. On the second item. So, we're
doing the first one first.

998
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:46,880
» Y.
>> Okay. Okay. So, the first one

999
02:55:44,479 --> 02:55:51,920
Okay. So now we require a motion to
approve the sidewalk construction

1000
02:55:50,479 --> 02:55:54,640
» approve the approve the
>> the contract.

1001
02:55:52,640 --> 02:55:58,000
» The contract was title one
>> for west western

1002
02:55:55,840 --> 02:56:02,000
» title one. So moved.
>> Second.

1003
02:55:58,720 --> 02:56:07,920
» Discussion. All those in favor? Opposed?
Motion's carried. Motion to adjurnn.

1004
02:56:05,359 --> 02:56:11,760
» Move 50 times.
>> Seconded.

1005
02:56:09,279 --> 02:56:11,760
» Discussion.