1 00:03:12,572 --> 00:03:16,040 [laughter] >> Everybody stand face the flag for the 2 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,680 pledge. Ready? 3 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:24,440 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 4 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:30,120 And to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with 5 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,120 liberty and justice for all. >> Amen. 6 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,480 » Let us bow our heads in the spirit of reflection. 7 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Gracious and loving God, we gather this evening with humble hearts, grateful for 8 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,680 the opportunity to serve our community. We ask for your guidance as we seek to 9 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,959 make decisions that will shape the future of our town and impact the lives 10 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:53,040 of all who call it home. Grant us wisdom beyond our own understanding, patience 11 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:57,120 in our discussions, and clarity in our thinking. Help us to listen with 12 00:03:54,600 --> 00:04:01,000 respect, speak with honesty, and act with integrity. May we always remember 13 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,400 that leadership is a privilege and service is a calling. 14 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Bless our residents, our neighbors, and all those who contribute to the 15 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,240 well-being of this town. Let unity prevail over division, and 16 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,959 hope guide our choices. In your name we pray. Amen. 17 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,720 » Amen. >> Amen. 18 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,840 » Thank you, Deb. We have a quorum, Deb. What's on our agenda? 19 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,280 » We have the minutes to be approved. 20 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:28,720 » Okay. Is there any discussion from the board about the minutes from last month? 21 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,360 If not, I'd entertain a motion for passage. 22 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,760 » I move. >> Okay. Any discussion from the council on 23 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,000 that? If not, I'd entertain a motion. 24 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,440 » I'll make a motion. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? 25 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,000 » I'll second. >> We have a second. All in favor, signify 26 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,320 by I. >> I. 27 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,893 » Opposed? >> I forgot about you, Brady. 28 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,913 You can go now. >> [laughter] 29 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:56,919 » Good evening. Um the typical disbursement request tonight, uh 30 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:01,720 we've got SRF disbursement request number 54, 31 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,720 um to Commonwealth in the amount of $39,847. 32 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:15,360 And then, disbursement request number 59 to Yarberry in the amount Sorry, 55 to 33 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Yarberry companies in the amount of $243,655. 34 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:28,400 And then, finally, a contractor overtime, 35 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,400 um in the amount of $648.03. 36 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,160 » 3 cents? >> Yes. 37 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 » How many cents? I didn't hear it. >> Three. 38 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,960 » 3 cents. >> Yarberry gave me I talked to Ray today. 39 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,000 He is that they're pretty much Yes, so 40 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:42,160 » last >> Yep. Yep. An update on that. So, 41 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,560 um after the construction meeting on Thursday, 42 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,440 um the town officials, Yarberry and 43 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:52,440 Commonwealth, will be doing a substantial completion walk-through 44 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,080 basically to come up with the punch list. So, things are are moving along 45 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,040 » Okay. >> pretty pretty well on that project. 46 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:03,680 » Just want to go over the skin number 54 is $39,847. 47 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Number 55 is $243,655 48 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,520 and the contractor overtime $648 $648.07 and 3 cents. 49 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,840 » Correct. >> Do we have any contingency money left? 50 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,560 » I'd have to check. >> Okay. 51 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,680 » Yeah. >> You can let me know? 52 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:23,000 » Yeah. Are all the water lines done now? >> Yes, I believe so. 53 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,520 » Okay. >> I think they're still doing a few 54 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,480 follow-ups on the yards. >> Yep. 55 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,040 » Okay. >> Yep. 56 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:34,960 And that'll be part of what they come up with on the punch list so. 57 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,960 » Okay. 58 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,880 » Okay. Any questions for Brady? If not, we got to pay our bills. I'd 59 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,919 entertain a motion to pay all those. >> I'll make that motion. 60 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,480 » a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second the motion. 61 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,400 » a second. All in favor signify by I. >> I. 62 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,680 » Opposed, same sign. Okay, that passes Brady. 63 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,480 » Thank you. And then the only other thing I'll mention is that we are 64 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:04,240 still working with USDA on the well water plant project. Um there's been 65 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,719 some requests on engineering contract items. We're trying 66 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,720 to sort those >> [snorts] 67 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:14,000 » out those details with them. So, it looks like closing on that maybe next 68 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 month. So, that's what we're targeting. So, 69 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,960 » So, >> things are are up for review with them 70 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,560 right now. >> Is it just because we have a new 71 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,360 new person overseeing it and they're just wanting different things? 72 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,840 » We're trying We're trying to figure things out, yes. 73 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,960 So, anyway. >> Thank you. 74 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,760 » Yep. Any questions on that? >> Thank you. 75 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,120 » Thank you. >> Thanks, Brady. 76 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:42,560 » Council, we had Tai Chi. I think I said it right. Tai Chi. 77 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,640 We had their first class today and again um, with the rain this morning, we still 78 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,080 had a lot of people out. So, the Board of Health has done a great job 79 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:52,520 partnering with us. And that's all about we have going on. 80 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Except September September the 2nd, we'll have our next senior outreach 81 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,640 program. And I need the council to approve $2,000 82 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,320 for that. >> 2,000? 83 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,960 » Uh-huh. >> That's a great program reaching out to 84 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,560 all of our seniors and giving them some activities. So, 85 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,960 I'd entertain a motion for passage on that. 86 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,120 » I'll make a motion to pass. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? 87 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,240 » I'll second. >> We have a second. All in favor signify 88 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,720 by I. I. Opposed? Okay, that passes. 89 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Anything else, Deb? >> Um 90 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,240 No. >> Okay. 91 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,240 » Steve. 92 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,840 » Hey, everybody. >> Nope. 93 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:43,159 » Uh, I've got a couple little things here. Uh, nothing nothing too crazy. Um 94 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:49,480 we, uh, had a couple of, uh, catch basins that have collapsed on our storm, 95 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:53,520 uh, water and we need to get those replaced, uh, rebuilt and uh, we have, 96 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:58,040 uh, uh, a bid put for 12,500 97 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:03,960 even. Um, and those are, uh, the catch basins 98 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:08,280 located at Little Avalon and Eastman and the one right over in the parking lot by 99 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:11,760 the food pantry, um, near the splash pad area. And I was hoping to get it 100 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,400 » water drainage, so >> Yeah. 101 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,720 » Any discussion from the council? >> No. 102 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,080 » I'd make a I'd ask for a motion. >> I'll make a motion. 103 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,320 » We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. [clears throat] 104 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,920 » We have a motion second. All in favor signify by I. I. Opposed? Okay, that's 105 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,160 good. >> All right. 106 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:34,080 And um, uh, I do have a schedule for, uh, the 107 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:37,240 EMB on the, uh, paving and milling and I'm happy to discuss that right now or I 108 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,000 can send an email to you. >> You can send an email to us. 109 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,360 » Okay. fine. All right. >> We're looking at Anderson Road 110 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:48,080 mid-August, right? >> Uh Anderson Road actually is going to be 111 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:51,840 milled and patches are done on the Veterans and Anderson Road area Thursday 112 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,160 of this week. >> Okay. 113 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,600 » Um Yep. So [snorts] 114 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,560 » That's good. >> Uh they're moving right they're moving 115 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,280 right along. I'm going to keep poking them. So 116 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,360 » Okay. >> Um 117 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,240 » Just stick it on our weekly email. That'd be great. 118 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,440 » Absolutely. >> Okay. Thank you. 119 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,120 » Uh you might have any any questions or anything. We don't have much else to go 120 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,640 over then. >> Nope. Thank you. 121 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,240 » Thank you. >> Jackie, do you have anything? 122 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:19,680 » Uh no. Uh the guys have been busy. I mean, they 123 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:23,440 drained uh on Mill Creek. Uh look like it's going to work fine, I think, once 124 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:27,080 we get everything else finished. And then on the other side of Mill Creek, 125 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,200 they've got that all done. Uh other than the paving and the 126 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,640 concrete and whatnot. >> Yep. 127 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,040 » Everything else looks like it's moving ahead real well. 128 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,640 » Very good. >> Um Steve 129 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,040 » They've done a great job. So >> They've done a good job. 130 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:45,520 » Thank you. >> Fantastic. Before 131 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:50,839 Before we move to new business, uh do we have any old business from the police? 132 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:56,520 » I just wanted to bring up the National Night Out that the department had along 133 00:10:52,839 --> 00:11:03,360 with the fire department and um Chief Cole and and uh Debbie had some 134 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:07,480 vendors there from the Anderson Library and um 135 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:11,000 What was the other one? Sorry. Anderson Library and who else? 136 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,520 » The sheriff came. 137 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,280 » And >> Library 138 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:29,067 » Very thankful for Dairy Queen for housing that event and and uh look 139 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,680 forward to it for next year. >> [snorts] 140 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,560 » Okay. All right. 141 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,680 No more old business, we'll move to new business. I have Mr. Cunningham under 142 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,840 new business. Do you have something to say, sir? 143 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,640 » Sure. >> Right over there, sir. 144 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,960 » You're at 7:15, right? North Street? 145 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,680 » 7:18 North. >> 7:18? 146 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:50,520 » Yes. Uh my name is Josh Cunningham. I do live 147 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:54,400 at 7:18 North Street. I want to address a couple concerns um 148 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:58,800 due to the water main replace. I think we are the last house, I think. 149 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Is that correct? I know we were there like last minute. Um 150 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:08,200 during the rain today, that line whole line collapsed the where they filled in 151 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:11,080 uh up at the house in the first I don't know 8 9 ft, it collapsed. 152 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Um so they'll have to come back out and 153 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:18,200 take a look at that. I don't know why. I was going to catch them today, but 154 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:22,360 obviously it rained, I couldn't. Steve, for you, um 155 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:27,000 I think you came out so one of you guys came out and vacuumed out the 156 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,320 drain there at Hall and North and Bean Street. 157 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,360 It seems to be okay. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it going 158 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,600 through there, but I think it's okay today, so that took care of the issue 159 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,360 this time. All right. Most of you um probably don't 160 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:43,200 know me. I know Jackie and Debbie do. Uh my name is Josh Cunningham. I've been 161 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:47,800 part of the community here since uh the mid-90s, '92, '93. I was a member 162 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:51,720 of the fire department for 13 years. Um I've lived on and off through the 163 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:57,040 community uh since then. Uh obviously, we know we have an issue 164 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:01,800 with manpower at the police department. So, as I'm seeing police officers leave, 165 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:05,360 I'm starting to hear word that we have uncovered shifts. Is that true, Chief 166 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,440 Cole? >> There is no Chief. 167 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:12,480 » Yes, okay. And I do know that Delville comes and helps out, uh the sheriff's 168 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,760 department comes and helps out as well, state police. However, 169 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:20,000 uh just like we experienced the other night in Delville, they had a shooter 170 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:23,240 over there and there was no coverage for us, well, the 171 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:27,960 sheriff's department, but they can be up to half hour away. My problem is why are 172 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:32,120 we losing officers? You know, I know there's what couple 173 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,280 being hired or in the process or going through training. Is that correct? 174 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Um we're down to three paid officers. 175 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Uh my understanding is one part-time and two reserves. 176 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Has [snorts] that number changed? 177 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,240 A few? Two, three, four? Is that about right? 178 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Okay, three. So, I was on one number off. 179 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,640 We know that's not enough to cover the town. 180 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:03,840 And to me that's a huge safety concern because we don't know where that backup 181 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,120 is coming from. And listen, I'm 100% supporter of the 182 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,520 police department. They have helped me especially this year have helped out 183 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:13,520 dramatically with our own personal issues we've had at home and me and 184 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Chief Cornett is talking about that. Also Paul Paul has been out there 185 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 several times helping us. 186 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,360 If there's a problem, we need to identify why our officers are leaving 187 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,840 and some of them are leaving because of better opportunities, but I'm hearing 188 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,200 those better opportunities is because it's a better environment. 189 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Okay. I'd like to have I think the town 190 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:40,280 deserves some answers as to why we're losing so many officers. We've lost 191 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:45,800 I know that when you around the time you started Chief that there was at least 192 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:49,520 eight to 10 officers as reserves. They're almost all gone. 193 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,040 We had well at one point six full-time officers 194 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,000 and for some reason we dropped that down to five. I don't know 195 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,960 when that happened. Um 196 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:07,480 but with crime on the rise nationwide, why are we dropping manpower for one? 197 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Because we need that manpower. And you've been around here for a long time 198 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:15,160 as well obviously. Didn't we have at least two officers 199 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,680 throughout the day and the evening at one point? 200 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,440 » Uh they overlapped. 201 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,000 » They overlapped. Okay. >> Yeah, most of the time they overlapped. 202 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,320 » And actually I mean like I said, I've been here 203 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:30,280 involved in this town since '92, '93. I want to see this town succeed. 204 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:35,440 And I know for a fact when people find out that our police department is so 205 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:39,840 under-manned powered at this point, they're not going to want to come here. 206 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,840 We've got for sale signs everywhere. No one's going to be interested in coming 207 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,840 here when the police protection is at the level it's at. I'm not blaming 208 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,560 anybody, but 209 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,680 this needs to be addressed, and we need to figure out why this is happening, and 210 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:57,600 find a way to improve it so that we're not running into this situation again. 211 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:01,080 You know, I we had all recently we just had one of our probably the most 212 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:05,560 respected officer, no offense to any of the rest, but probably the most 213 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:09,880 respected officer retired. And I know he wasn't seeking better 214 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:14,960 opportunities, he was just frustrated. I know that. 215 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:19,000 So, we need to figure out a way to identify where the problem's at, and 216 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,560 fix the problem. Or else we're going to keep losing 217 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,400 officers, these new guys coming in are going to say, "Forget this." They're 218 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,839 going to leave, and we'll be right back in the same situation. 219 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,200 » All right. >> And and I do want to say 220 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:36,680 in the post that was made on the town's Facebook page, it literally stated all 221 00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:40,120 of the things that I had brought up, and then said it it started off as 222 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,560 misinformation. >> Well, I'm going to respond to your 223 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,680 misinformation. >> Yes. 224 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,080 » Because you emailed me. >> Yes, I did. Yes. 225 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,440 » Okay. And I responded that you had some 226 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:56,560 misinformation apparently. And also, you're always welcome to attend a board 227 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,240 meeting. As far as Facebook, you'd said you've been kicked off of Facebook. 228 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,160 » Yeah, and I'm not blaming anybody on here. 229 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,640 » Okay, so we don't know anything about that. 230 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,199 » I'm just I'm just letting you know. >> But I also I also said you could contact 231 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,319 the chief ahead of time, you could talk to him. I don't think you did that. 232 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,079 » have not. >> Now, here's here's the area I was 233 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:17,160 talking about you had miscommunica- or misinformation. We are now without 234 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:20,439 police coverage for more days than we are covered. That is totally inaccurate. 235 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,319 » Do you know that it's on >> That's on That's on your email. 236 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,480 » Okay. >> And that's totally inaccurate. When 237 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:32,920 when you say we don't have coverage, we do have coverage. It's just not our 238 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:38,960 officers of Chesterfield and Madison County is doing the coverage. And the 239 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,960 chief can explain that in a few minutes. 240 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,400 So, I just want to clarify that with you. 241 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:47,080 » Okay. Well, let's clarify. Chief, it's my understanding there's probably 242 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:50,280 approximately 20 days in this month alone, past and and going to be in the 243 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,200 future because your guys are still in training, 244 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,000 that there will be at least a shift that is uncovered by a Chesterfield officer. 245 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Is that close to being correct? 246 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,760 » 20 days? >> Approximately. 247 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 I I may be a little bit off on that number, but 248 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,800 » I don't think I understand the question. That's I'm not pretty sure what that's 249 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,360 going to be, so I can understand it because that is 250 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,280 not not what's on my screen. >> Okay. Okay. 251 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,800 The information that has come to me is that there's approximately 252 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,400 » Can you please walk me through it? >> Yeah. 253 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,720 » So, so I can understand this because where are you getting your information? 254 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,240 Can you can you bring this person in so they can 255 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,640 » Uh no, I'm not going to reveal the people who come to me confidentially. 256 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:32,960 I mean, shh. I'm not going to subject anybody in this 257 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:36,680 town to harassment cuz what will happen, I know for a fact cuz it's happened to 258 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,520 me in the past, there are uncovered shifts still to 259 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,760 come. Am I wrong? By officers. 260 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Uncovered by Chesterfield officers. >> Until this training is completed. 261 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:52,080 » Yeah, go ahead. Mr. Cunningham, would you mind Mr. Cunningham? We heard you. 262 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,920 We understand what you're saying. If you want to have a seat, let him do some 263 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 explaining. >> Well, I'm not quite done because I was 264 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,480 still addressing you claiming that I have bad information. 265 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,880 And this is clarification of that issue. >> F- F- First of all, 266 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,320 it it there's never been a response that it's 267 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:14,280 taken over 10 minutes, maybe not even 6 or 7 minutes to get to 268 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:14,280 a call here that's that's an emergency. 269 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:20,160 I have been in direct face-to-face contact with the 270 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:24,400 sheriff and the sheriff has told me that he will 271 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,840 have his area work car 272 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:31,680 to be taking our calls if if they are needed. 273 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:38,880 And he has done that. And he told me that they're they're glad to help. 274 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:42,600 Um as far as any other response times, not only do we have the sheriff's 275 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:46,080 department, Daleville definitely comes and they they've helped 276 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:50,920 us, we help them. It Anderson Police Department, they're 277 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:54,920 here to back us and so is the Indiana State Police. 278 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,960 The um 279 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:03,880 part of of people taking calls for us, 280 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:08,480 sometimes the Chesterfield Police Department, we take calls for Daleville. 281 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:12,440 » Yes. >> Sometimes we take calls 282 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:17,120 for the Madison County Sheriff's Department. 283 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:23,000 I have to personally taken calls for the Anderson Police Department. 284 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:29,120 What it is, we all work together. We're united as a large group. We're different 285 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,640 police agencies, but we work together. 286 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:37,440 » Mhm. >> If we need back up, they help us. If 287 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:42,560 they need back up, we help them. Um 288 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:44,880 so I any time you or the people that 289 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,760 um you say are they're giving you your 290 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:52,520 information, I I even shared something with you 291 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:56,360 earlier and I'm telling you again, please call me, we'll make an 292 00:20:54,480 --> 00:21:00,320 appointment. I'll meet with you and these other people and we can have a 293 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:03,840 talk and I will show you what what what our schedules are. 294 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,920 » And I would like to Listen, I'm not There's nothing 295 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,040 You know, we're good. >> So that's the end of the problem. 296 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,360 » Can I say something? >> Yeah, go ahead, Jack. 297 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:17,720 » Uh for what I understand, I don't think no shifts has been unmanned. 298 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,800 Just it wasn't a Chesterfield officer. >> No, and that's 299 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,600 » We had the county covering that shift. >> And that's the point I'm I'm bringing up 300 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,360 is we don't have enough Chesterfield officers to cover our night. 301 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,360 » but they weren't unmanned. >> And I do agree, the sheriff's department 302 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,840 has done a great job and they do a great job. Dilwyn does a great job, but they 303 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,640 normally have what, one or two guys as well? 304 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,560 » Sure. >> At any given time, usually two, I think. 305 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,560 Um 306 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,680 The sheriff's department can take up to a half an hour time, even though the 307 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:47,240 sheriff's department, you know how long it takes sometimes. Now, normally it 308 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,200 doesn't. But I have I personally because I 309 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:53,280 not only was on the fire department, I worked as a tow truck driver, and I know 310 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,480 that sometimes they're are just far too far away to get there in a timely 311 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,200 manner. And I say that because how how quickly 312 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,600 does crime happen? Does it happen over the course of 10, 15 minutes, or does it 313 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,240 happen within a few minutes? >> Normally. 314 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,840 » It depends. >> Normally a few minutes, the crime is 315 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,120 over with. >> Okay. Well, that that, you know, that's 316 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,840 a debate you can have with the chief one-on-one, okay? 317 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,800 » And and >> We we We understand what you're saying, 318 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,800 but you need to understand we hate to see officers leave for 319 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,480 various reasons. I I I was in law enforcement for 45 years. 320 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,440 » know. I believe you were. >> Okay. And and over the years, I've been 321 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,000 I've been a patrol officer, I've been a police detective, a crime scene 322 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,160 detective, assistant chief, chief, I've been an administrator. 323 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,920 And people leave for all kinds of reasons. Better job opportunities. Some 324 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:41,200 people leave because they don't like the way the administration is. Some people 325 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:46,320 leave cuz they don't like the focus of the chief or their supervisor or their 326 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:51,200 coworkers. Uh others just get tired of policing. There's a a lot of reasons. 327 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:55,160 And in a small town like Chesterfield, it's a different type of policing. The 328 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,240 demographics are different. It's a community oriented, and a lot of police 329 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:04,240 officers aren't geared for community policing type activities. 330 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:08,400 Uh they they want to be more traditional cops and sometimes 331 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,400 uh, that offends them. They want to go be what they call so-called real cop cuz 332 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,040 they sometimes don't look at community policing officers as real cops. So, 333 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,960 there's a lot of reasons why I'm trying to tell you, but we have taken the 334 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:25,880 appropriate steps. We have hired two new guys. We're at full complement. We just 335 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,520 got to get them trained. We've got help. Uh, 336 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,720 I feel very comfortable where we're at in the town right now moving forward. 337 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,560 And I don't We haven't had any complaints about any police not showing 338 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:43,000 up at any time. And we went over the schedule and we've 339 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:47,800 got coverage for all of August. And yes, CPD, Chesterfield, is covering the 340 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:53,360 majority of everything. There's only a handful that are not. So, 341 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,880 » So, you're telling me that I don't what I'm talking about. 342 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:00,000 » No, I'm not saying that, sir. I'm just I'm trying to assure you that we're 343 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,760 moving forward. We need to >> I agree. We need to move forward. 344 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,840 But the fact is, up until this point right now, without a reason I'm here, is 345 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,040 because it had not moved forward. You got to find new training officers and 346 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,880 you're working on that. It takes a while to train them. Am I wrong? 347 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,200 I mean, listen, I'm a firefighter. It took a long time for me to get trained. 348 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,400 And I didn't carry a gun. So, it's a bigger responsibility. 349 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,440 Problem is, the town doesn't see it that way. The town sees empty spots and 350 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,120 Chesterfield officers not being there. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. 351 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,440 » But when you say >> Give me the answer. 352 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,960 » say it's missing No, that's what I'm asking you. When you say that I'm giving 353 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,840 you for misinformation, where it is just verified that we had 354 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:46,120 our shifts aren't covered by Chesterfield officers, which is what I 355 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:50,400 said. What is what I've been saying. I know county comes in. I know Dariel 356 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,360 comes in. What about our own people? We don't have enough. The reason people are 357 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:59,800 leaving is cuz they're not happy here. Why is it they're not happy here? Let's 358 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:03,280 investigate that and solve that problem. Sitting up here telling the town that 359 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,800 they're full of misinformation is not the answer because there is no 360 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,800 misinformation. Other people they fly out on the town's website on the 361 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,400 Facebook page misinformation. So that is either either directed only to me or the 362 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,440 entire town. Cuz this is all over town. This isn't 363 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,640 just a me issue. It's all over town. 364 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Many people have brought this concern up. 365 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,480 It's not just me. >> Okay. Okay. 366 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,600 » I know that the officers aren't here and I know that the officers that left, the 367 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,040 majority of them are not happy with the way things have been going. 368 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,240 » Okay. You've said your piece. We've heard you. We understand, sir. 369 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,720 » to shut me up now. >> No, we will We understand, Mr. 370 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:40,320 Cunningham. >> That's why you're shutting me up cuz I 371 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 know what the town thinks. 372 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:46,000 » Yeah. >> I'm part of the town. 373 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Jack, you know [clears throat] me. You know I speak the truth. 374 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,880 I don't play games. I don't play political games. In fact, when I got 375 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,240 hired the mayor opened the mayor's straight face and said, "I will not play 376 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,640 your political games. So you either fire me now 377 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,480 or let me go." That was my third day on the job. 378 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,000 » Okay. Mr. Cunningham. >> play games. 379 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,480 » You You made your point and and really 380 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:10,560 appreciate you coming in and giving your your view on it, okay? And the chief has 381 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:14,640 heard it. And if you got any concerns about coverage or anything, address it 382 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,160 with the chief, if you would. >> He's got to listen to the people. He's 383 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,280 got to remember so much. >> There's only so much we can do as well. 384 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,720 We're doing >> No, you can investigate why everybody is 385 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,440 leaving and solve the problem. But you guys have not done it. In fact, and I 386 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,440 don't know who cut the six person six-man department. 387 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:33,920 » Okay, I'll I'll Can I Can I Can I Can I explain it to you real 388 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:39,720 If you'll give me the Okay. All the officers voted, agreed to 389 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:45,440 go from six to five so we could get their pay up to be comparable with other 390 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,920 towns so we didn't lose people, okay? >> why I just signed up for the reason for 391 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000 that. >> Yeah. 392 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,520 » I didn't know that was the reason they answered. Why are we cutting jobs for 393 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,760 five? When time is on an up city period where 394 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,400 » Well, that's why you That's why you should attend meetings to 395 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:05,960 learn this information instead of second-hand information. And the person 396 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,360 that you're talking to, or they a part of the current administration? 397 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,760 Are they part of the current administration? Yes or no? 398 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,120 » I don't know. Once you made that decision 399 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,720 » No, the ones that you're talking to, are they part of the current administration? 400 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,440 So, they don't have any of the correct information. 401 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,640 » And people have talked to >> That's That's the past. 402 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,200 » I know. >> No, I have not. I've never been a police 403 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:29,200 officer. No. >> Okay. So, I know you know what we're 404 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,720 aware of the shortage of manpower that this park 405 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,200 And what? The bad environment and whatever area 406 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,440 would damage it and cause to be an organization. [clears throat] 407 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:43,440 » Yeah. Sir, you've made your point. I understand exactly what you're saying. I 408 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,800 I I I I respect what you're saying. I understand. We understand what you're 409 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,800 saying. But, you're wanting us to do something 410 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:55,920 that we can't do right now. We're trying to move forward, get the officers back 411 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,280 up to par uh at the compliment. So, I understand what you're saying. 412 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,480 » I've never claimed we could fix the problem right now. 413 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:05,840 What I'm saying is let's investigate. Let's find out what the problem is. Why 414 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:10,400 so many officers are leaving and are not happy. Most of them wanted to stay here. 415 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,520 But, for various reasons that were not pleasant, have left. 416 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,880 Why is that? >> Okay. 417 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,120 » There's a reason for that. >> That's That's the That's the 10th time 418 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,280 you said it. We heard it. We understand it, sir. 419 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,800 » Okay, you're taking it away from me. I want this board 420 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,640 » No, it's your opinion. We're listening to your opinion. 421 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:31,000 » It's more of my opinion. And that tells me everything I need to know that this 422 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,920 board refuses to investigate why we are losing officers. 423 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:38,640 » Okay. Well, we're we're done. We're done. Thank you. We're done. We've heard 424 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:42,520 you. We've heard you, Mr. Cuttingham. Appreciate you living here in town. 425 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Appreciate your opinion, sir. Does the board have anything else? 426 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,120 » No. >> No. 427 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,280 » Okay. Anything else from the audience? Mr. 428 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Cutting Hand had his time. Does anybody else have anything? 429 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Uh Yeah, you run all the crime statistics 430 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,680 throughout the whole state. You know crime's down now. 431 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Okay. Yes. 432 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,920 » Countrywide. 433 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,480 » All right, I'll do entertain a motion for dismissal. 434 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,560 » I'll make that. >> I'll second. We have a second. All in 435 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,040 favor? >> I. 436 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,040 » All right, thank you.