1 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:12,880 Test. >> There we go. 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,320 » There we go. Okay, >> there it is. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,600 » Should I start again or are we good? I think we're good. You go ahead. 4 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:20,720 » Okay. >> First order of business. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:26,080 » Thank you. First is the delegation for an appeal by the owner be received and 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:32,079 further that council uphold the decision to collect the incurred service costs in 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:36,399 the amount of $53,1052 pursuant to the city's nuisance noxious 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:42,879 or offensive trade health and safety bylaw for the property located at 44843 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:46,079 South Sum Road. And Mr. Shipper will provide a brief presentation to council 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,719 first. >> Uh should we put it on the floor? Move 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,960 councelor include second councelor west. Mr. Shepard 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:04,320 still got there we go. Oh it can't blinking on and off. 13 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,240 Okay you got it. >> Good afternoon your worship and members 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:12,400 of council. Today I'll be providing you with a brief background with respect to 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:17,920 the sub subject property located at 44843 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:22,320 south sumass road. So on October 2nd, 2025, the Chilowak RCMP executed a 17 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:27,119 search warrant at the above noted address. As a result, a large active 18 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:31,680 Clandiststein lab was found to be operating within within one of the farm 19 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:35,600 buildings located on the property. At the request of the RCMP by law 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:41,119 enforcement staff attended the property on October 6, 2025 to conduct an 21 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:45,680 inspection and post no occupancy notice on the building in question. 22 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:50,000 The property owner was sent a letter the same day informing him that as a result 23 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,439 of the search warrant findings during inspection, the property was now 24 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:57,040 considered a controlled substance property 25 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:01,600 as per the noxious and offensive trades bylaw. There are provisions in this 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,520 bylaw that grants the city the authority to collect service costs as well as 27 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,759 require the building to be remediated and made safe. 28 00:02:07,726 --> 00:02:12,560 » [snorts] >> The RCMP and the hazardous materials 29 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,920 cleanup personnel were on scene for a total of nine days at the subject's 30 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:20,959 property. In this case, the service costs in the 31 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:25,200 amount of 53,000 the city has invoiced the property for only covers a fraction 32 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:29,599 of the actual cost involved in the cleanup of this lab. 33 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:33,360 The actual cost for the dismantling and the cleanup of this lab was in the 34 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:38,000 hundreds of thousands of dollars. Much of the costs were covered through the 35 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:42,800 RCMP funding sources such as provincial tactical enforcement priority funding 36 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:48,480 which contributed several hundred,000 towards the costs associated to the safe 37 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:53,920 dismantling of the clan lab as well as the cost of other placing expenses. 38 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:57,840 To date, the no occupancy order still stands and the buildings involved have 39 00:02:55,519 --> 00:03:03,400 not yet been remediated. I'm happy to answer any questions. 40 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,400 » Council 41 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:11,200 Go Reed. >> Thank you worship. Um just a question 42 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:15,040 through to Mr. Shipper. The building hasn't been remediated. Is this 43 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:19,519 projected cost or these are the 53,000 has already been incurred plus we think 44 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:25,040 that there will be additional charges. >> Your worship through to councelor Reid. 45 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:31,200 The cleanup cost that we are here today for are costs associated with the 46 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:34,959 initial cleanup of the clan lab. Now that the property owner is to 47 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,319 remediate the property and make it safe, those costs come out of his own pocket. 48 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:46,239 » Thank you. >> Okay, Mr. Shields worship and through 49 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:52,560 Mr. Shippers. So, had the RCMP not busted this lab and these tenants 50 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:57,360 had moved out, the landlord would have been responsible for any cost to 51 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:01,120 remediate his property back to its a livable state. 52 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:06,879 » Is that correct? your worship through the councelor Shields. That is correct. 53 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:10,640 If the RCMP had not executed the search warrant on the property and we were not 54 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:14,239 aware of this, we would not have been involved in it at all. So, it would have 55 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:18,479 fallen on the property owner. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. West. 56 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:22,400 » Thanks, Bishop. I might have not missed it, but um you can you tell me roughly 57 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:27,360 what the total cost would be then like around $250,000 for the remediation 58 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:35,280 » dear worship through the council westing. I don't have the exact costs of 59 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:40,560 it, but I do know that it was upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars, like 60 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:43,440 three $400,000. Okay. Thanks. >> Okay, 61 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:48,400 Mercer. >> Yeah, just quickly um and just asking 62 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:55,840 the obvious, but just for the record, um the figures that you're providing us 63 00:04:52,000 --> 00:05:00,080 um don't in any way, shape, or form, um represent the true 64 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,639 value of this from start to finish. It doesn't include police costs which the 65 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:07,440 taxpayers of the city pay for. It doesn't include the costs that the 66 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:12,800 federal government and the province have paid for in policing with bringing teams 67 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:17,520 from as far as way as Alberta to deal with this. And absolutely none of those 68 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:21,600 costs which I would suggest are in the order of over a million dollars are not 69 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,479 included in anything that you're talking about today for the record. 70 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,960 your worship through to councelor Mercer. Yes, that is correct. The 71 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:35,039 service costs with respect to the cleanup are only involved from the 72 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:40,000 instant that the search warrant was executed till the time that the RCMP 73 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:44,080 left the property and those cleanups associated that the investigation all 74 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:48,000 those peripheral things relating to something like this even the in the 75 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:52,400 front end and the back end are not included in these costs. 76 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:58,000 » Okay, let me get your light on. Are you good? Uh thank you your worship and 77 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:02,880 maybe uh I'm not sure if Mr. Shep can shed light on this but when when um an 78 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:08,560 investigation like this happens are they looking at um like potential for ongoing 79 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:13,520 contamination as a result of what was happening on that property? looking at 80 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:18,240 potential of contamination to actually leak out beyond property lines and other 81 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,039 you look at where this is you look at its proximity to a school to you know 82 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:27,759 water courses all those things. So, are they how indepth are they investigating 83 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:30,960 some of this uh some of this work? And then what would be involved later on 84 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:35,360 down the road when they actually identify that this property is clean and 85 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:40,960 doesn't pose uh an environmental or hazard risk both now or into the into 86 00:06:38,479 --> 00:06:45,520 the future? Mr. Shipper, >> uh your worship through to councelor L. 87 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:51,840 So, two-part question. Um the first whether the RCMP are investigating where 88 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:58,400 some of this materials have been dumped. I'm not entirely certain on that. I do 89 00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:03,520 know that as a result of this file that there was other files that went out from 90 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:07,360 it. So I'm I can't really speak to that. But with respect to the remediation of 91 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:12,479 the building and surrounding the building, that will be part of the 92 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:17,759 cleanup process. The owner will be required to retain a certified 93 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:22,080 industrial hygienist to make sure that the property and the surrounding area 94 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:26,960 just based on the complexities of this clan lab have been addressed. And um 95 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:32,400 there will also have to be a determination made whether it's even 96 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:35,840 able to remediate that building or if it can't be remediated. It might have to be 97 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:42,080 torn down. But that's a decision the property owner needs to make. 98 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:47,840 » I see no more lights on. Thank you. Oh, >> thank you through you to [clears throat] 99 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:51,599 Mr. Shipper. Um if this is um passed here today, what is the likelihood of 100 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:57,280 retrieving those costs? It could be dragged on, I imagine, by the homeowner. 101 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:02,479 » These costs, if it is approved by council today, can be added to the taxes 102 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,879 if they're not paid by a certain amount of time and it'll go on property taxes. 103 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Okay. Thank you. Again, thank you, Mr. Shipper, for your 104 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:19,440 preamble. Um, is is said person in in chambers? Okay. If you could come up to 105 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:24,360 the mic and just give me your name and your address. Just the Part of the 106 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,360 record, please sir. 107 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:33,519 » Name is uh Satnam Gak Satnast name G H A G. 108 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,519 » Welcome. >> Go ahead. 109 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:42,240 » And the address uh 44843 South Zumass. 110 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:47,200 Uh couple of things. One is what Mr. Shipper said when they posted the 111 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:52,720 notices. They not only posted the notices on this 112 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:59,680 place where they were doing illegal activities, they also posted a notice on 113 00:08:56,959 --> 00:09:05,839 a building that is separate from it. And I had two meetings with him and he said 114 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:11,839 that the RCMP and uh the city was still dealing with it. That notice still 115 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:19,120 stands. We have no understanding why he's doing that. that is a separate 116 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:23,600 building removed from the the building where the illegal activities were 117 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:31,200 happening. The property was bought by by my parents 118 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:38,880 I I'm guessing about 15 years ago. My father used to look after everything 119 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:44,959 uh along with other properties. I think the all of the property that we own in 120 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:52,399 Chelawak. I think our taxes combined is around 70,000 a year. 121 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:58,399 And to answer the question, if this is upheld, uh obviously we pay our bills 122 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:04,000 and and that's the decision of the council. Uh we we will take care of 123 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:13,279 that. We just think after for 56 years. 124 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:20,560 We first uh came to Chelawak in 1970 and that's a property on 44 125 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:27,519 594 Watson Road and since then we expanded mainly into farming that's in 126 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:36,240 the Chilawak area and we never had an unfortunate situation like this one. Uh 127 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:43,040 I think part of the reason is my mom uh she passed away uh last year in June. Uh 128 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:48,399 she was 94 years old. Couldn't get around and dad passed away before that. 129 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:54,240 Uh you know that's not an excuse but that 130 00:10:51,279 --> 00:11:00,160 is what happened. She was not mobile. She uh obviously didn't do the due 131 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:05,120 diligence, didn't do the inspections and 132 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:10,480 Unfortunately, what happened happened. If uh the amount can be reduced, we 133 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:16,720 would appreciate it. It's not something that we have dealt 134 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:20,240 with before. So, we can only request that that 135 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:23,920 53,000 can be eliminated. Obviously, that would 136 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:29,920 be the best thing. But if it can be reduced, 137 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:37,120 that that would be appreciated. Okay. And we would request that the the 138 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:45,120 sign that is on the building that had nothing to do with with the this uh 139 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:49,920 illegal activities be removed. There's no reason for him to have that on there. 140 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,519 » Well, there's still a police investigation on on the piece of 141 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:58,399 property, I believe. >> Uh I phoned after talking to Mr. 142 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,839 Shipper, I phoned the chief investigator. 143 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:07,519 He said, "We're done with it. It's your property. You do what you want to do." 144 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:12,720 That's the chief investigator. When they first, uh, I guess got the 145 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:17,760 search warrant. Uh, nobody presented to us. We just 146 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:23,680 found out from the neighbors that there was RCMP on our property. 147 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:29,200 And after I think second or third day when he came and talked to me, he wanted 148 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:34,639 to look at other buildings including the house. We opened everything up for them 149 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:40,480 and they had a good look and uh it's not like we didn't cooperate with them. So 150 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:44,480 far as I know, RCMP is not uh investigating. They're done. They were 151 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:48,560 done a long time ago. According to him, they were done on I can't remember the 152 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:53,120 date he gave me, but it was the date they left. 153 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:57,920 Okay. Well, that's a separate issue so that I can deal with, you know, staff 154 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:02,480 and get you back some information that I wasn't aware of that, but uh um we're 155 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,200 dealing with the issue, you know, at hand here. Um questions from council 156 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:11,200 Mercer. >> Thank you, worship. Um you know, after 157 00:13:09,284 --> 00:13:15,519 [clears throat] 35 years in policing, I thought I'd heard it all, but I've never 158 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:21,440 heard anybody blame their mother. >> Not blaming the mother. Um on I'm just 159 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:26,320 curious um like 160 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:30,079 I'm a little bit baffled. Um on what planet do you think it would be okay for 161 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:35,760 the citizens of Chilowak in their taxpayer money 162 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:40,240 to pay the costs for the cleanup and the fines on your property? 163 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:46,880 It's a simple business model. >> It's people pay taxes 164 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:51,920 and um we carry on as a city. I I can't think of any place in the world that 165 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:57,519 would want the citizens of their community to pay for something like this 166 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:02,639 that would happen on your property that put Chilowak on the map in a very 167 00:14:00,079 --> 00:14:06,079 negative way. And it's clearly to me just simple abdication of your 168 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:09,519 responsibilities to that property. >> And I'll allow you to answer that, but I 169 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:14,880 don't want to go, you know, back and forth. But go ahead if you want to 170 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:18,800 respond to that, please. Let me I don't know how he misinterpreted that I was 171 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:24,639 blaming my mother. All I simply said was she was 94 years old, didn't get around. 172 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:28,240 She had a walker to go to the bathroom. She didn't do an inspection. So I don't 173 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:32,639 know how, you know, with your experience as a police officer, you can interpret 174 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:39,600 simple statement like that to say I'm blaming her. Far from it. I just simply 175 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:45,360 said that my father who went and inspected everything throughout the 176 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:50,320 Chillowak, the properties that we own, mom couldn't do it. I'm blaming her. She 177 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:54,399 just physically couldn't do it. >> Okay. Yeah. 178 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:59,040 » So, I just want that on the record to >> No, I think that's [snorts] I think I 179 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:05,440 think that's an adequate um discussion that that we've had here. And uh uh if 180 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:12,320 there's nothing further from from council. Uh, I'm going to call the 181 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:17,519 question. Uh, staff's recommendation. Um, have we got a mover in a second? 182 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:24,240 Move. Councelor Reid, second councelor Westbank. Any further discussion? All 183 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:27,440 those in favor? The motion carries. Thank you for being here. Thank you. 184 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:31,000 Appreciate that. Next order of business, please, madam clerk. 185 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:37,519 » Next is set the minutes. of the special regular meeting of council held August 186 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:42,000 13th, 2026 and the meet minutes of the regular meeting of council held August 187 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:45,040 18th, 26 be adopted as circulated. >> Councelor Westing, second councelor 188 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:48,079 Reid. All those in favor? Opposed? Motion carried. Next item. 189 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:52,639 » Next is a recommendation that the consent agenda be approved as presented. 190 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,079 » Move councelor Lum. Second councelor Mercer. Discussion. Seeing none. Those 191 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:00,399 in favor opposed. Motion carried. Next item. 192 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:04,560 The next item is a recommendation that council award the tender for organic 193 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:10,680 waste transportation to Bio Central Green Depot Limited in the estimated 194 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,680 amount of $1,562,37 195 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:21,040 for a term from October 1st, 2026 to May 31st, 2029 with the option to renew for 196 00:16:18,079 --> 00:16:24,560 up to two additional one-year terms. >> Councelor Wester, second councelor 197 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,839 Shields. Discussion seeing none. All those in favor? 198 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,759 Opposed? Motion carried. Next item. >> The next item is a recommendation that 199 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:36,880 council authorize staff to submit an application for Transport Canada's 200 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:41,839 Railway Safety Improvement Program for funding towards upgrades to the Evans 201 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,680 Road and Southern Rail BC at grade crossing. 202 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,240 » Councelor Mercer second. Councelor Clue. Councelor 203 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:51,279 » Cl. Thank you, Richard. Just to staff, if I re read correctly, these 204 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,920 improvements need to be done by January 1st. Is that correct? 205 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:03,040 I believe that's January 1st, 2028. >> Okay. Oh, yeah. It does say the detailed 206 00:17:01,199 --> 00:17:07,919 designs and then scheduled for summer of 2027. Um, just [clears throat] a quick 207 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:12,400 question. If um when would we anticipate hearing a response? Is there a certain 208 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:14,160 date that they announce the projects that they will be funding across the 209 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,319 country? >> M. Jeffers, 210 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:24,400 » I I don't think we have a date when we will be hearing. Um it's been a couple 211 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:28,240 of years since we um needed to apply to this program. 212 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:33,679 » And then my final question on this is uh it appears by the um the diagram or the 213 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:37,760 rendering it looks will the travel lanes slightly shift over. Is that what I'm 214 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:41,280 seeing because they're placing a a bit of a boulevard 215 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:47,440 either side of the tracks? >> Um through your worship I'll see if 216 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:52,960 Kevin Pard's coming up. he's been more plugged into the design process. 217 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:57,679 » Thanks, Mr. Polard. >> Uh, yeah. So, we're just about completed 218 00:17:55,360 --> 00:18:02,320 the detailed design now, and it includes a center median. If you can picture the 219 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:06,799 crossing at Young Road where we have the mass in the center. So, in order to 220 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:11,360 accommodate the median and maintain the four travel lanes, we have to do a bit 221 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:14,640 of a taper uh with the travel lanes around that new median. 222 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,960 » Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. 223 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,240 West. >> Thanks, Bishop. I just want to thank 224 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:22,960 staff for always looking forward or looking for ways to stretch the 225 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,559 taxpayers's dollars and going after those grants and uh you know there's 226 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,960 it's a big improvement to the city and not a big hit on the uh on the tax bill. 227 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:35,440 So, good job. Thanks. >> Shields. Thank you. And this was just 228 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:38,320 further on to the design here. Um is just with those boulevards, is that a 229 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,840 requirement now? Like a safety requirement through through Transport 230 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Canada, I guess. >> Sorry, Kevin. I should have got you to 231 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:47,919 stay up there, but I looked at it too and I thought, "Wow, there's a whole 232 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,679 bunch of extra stuff in there." And I didn't uh 233 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:56,640 » Yeah, as soon as um as soon as you have a road cross-section of four lanes, 234 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:01,440 » uh basically the mast length starts to get difficult to come across two travel 235 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:04,160 lanes. And that's why the you under the grade crossing standards, the federal 236 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,240 grade crossing, >> you need to have that median to place uh 237 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:11,600 the mast. >> Okay. Right. Right. Because if it was 238 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,480 just two lanes, well, they could easily get across. Yep. Okay, that makes sense. 239 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:21,160 Thank you. Okay, we're all done. All questions in 240 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,160 favor post. Motion carry. Next item. 241 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:27,120 » Next item. Your worship is a recommendation that council accept the 242 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:31,360 proposal for uniform security guard services from the lead proponent Griffin 243 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:35,880 Investigation and Security Services Limited in the amount of 2,592,87386. 244 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:46,480 » Moved by Council West. Second councelor Reid. Councelor Reid. 245 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:52,400 » Thank you, Bishop. Uh just a quick question. Is what is the uh change in 246 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:56,880 rate um over the past contract? Is there been a significant increase or 247 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:02,400 » I actually haven't examined that, but the bulk of the cost is the addition of 248 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:05,360 the 24-hour patrol that we've overtaken from BC Housing 249 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:12,480 » BC Housing the Partnership. >> Right. Okay. Thank you very much, 250 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:17,440 » Mercer. Thank you. That uh uh was sort of going to be my question. Has there 251 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:22,640 been any discussion uh either through yourself or staff to your knowledge with 252 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,720 BC Housing? Is there any movement from them 253 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:32,000 » that they might buy back into a problem that's theirs not ours? And 254 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:36,960 » ongoing discussion councelor Mercer uh both uh Mr. Shipper and I attend uh 255 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:42,000 meetings with BC Housing and all of the service providers uh specifically in the 256 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:48,559 rain city and Phoenix area. Um we sit at those tables um and 257 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:54,480 we voice our concerns and uh try and prompt uh partnerships as often as we 258 00:20:51,280 --> 00:21:00,480 can. Uh they see the value in the private security as even uh the uh 259 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:04,080 facility caretakers are phoning for assistance from time to time. Not only 260 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:08,880 are they looking after their own properties, but they're looking out for 261 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:13,600 issues that are occurring on neighboring properties and businesses as well. So 262 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:18,799 the good neighbor agreements with those facilities uh seem to be working. Um 263 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:27,919 it's just bringing the funer back to the table to buy into uh what is now being 264 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:32,000 very apparent as a need uh for this type of uh 265 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,120 activity on those properties and in those neighborhoods. 266 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,559 » Yeah, I understand that. As you're aware, I'm a aware of the good 267 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:41,919 neighbor agreement, but part of the good neighbor agreement included BC Housing, 268 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,559 and they're no longer being a good neighbor. Um, I suspect that the people 269 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:51,200 you're dealing with aren't at the pay grade for decision [clears throat] to 270 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:55,679 cancel BC Housing's portion of the security payment. I don't believe that 271 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,760 decision probably rests with them. And I'm just wondering if 272 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,400 » if we as staff through Miss Stanton or anybody else through your office, your 273 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:08,880 worship, >> have we explained to um BC Housing in a 274 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:12,720 letter that uh we've now been put in the position of raising our security costs 275 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:15,840 to the detriment of the taxpayers of Chillowak because they simply have 276 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:20,960 dropped the ball. >> Yeah, I'm I'm not aware of any 277 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:25,039 correspondence with BC Housing on that point or did I I can't remember but I 278 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,840 can certainly check it. Oh, go ahead. Most 279 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,520 » Miss Stanton has written a letter. >> Okay, that's what I thought we did. 280 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:36,400 Yeah. >> And uh at the table I voice it to my 281 00:22:33,679 --> 00:22:41,600 counterparts at BC Housing as often as I can and they assure me that the message 282 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:47,520 is being uh sent up loud and clear. >> So on that same line um if by some 283 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:54,799 miracle they do come to the table would we claw back this uh um amount of money 284 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:59,760 that we're about to approve to Griffin that amount or what would be the the uh 285 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,400 strategy there? >> My hope that would uh they would either 286 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:10,720 reinstate fulltime static guard at that site to alleviate the need uh to pull 287 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:16,080 those resources from the downtown core. Um even better would be for them to 288 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:21,039 reinstate their 50% share of the mobile patrol that serves all of the supportive 289 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,440 housing and shelter locations throughout the city. 290 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,440 » Fingers crossed. Thanks. >> Okay. So, this number wouldn't change 291 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:33,520 then if they did come to the table. It would just be enhanced with with more 292 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:40,320 » well it would be enhanced but we'd gain in that we'd have more patrol activity 293 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:44,159 in the downtown core and around other service areas. 294 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:49,679 » Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. Uh thank you for uh the 295 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:54,880 report and um just for myself I I find it a little bit ironic that um the 296 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:59,600 province speaks about um safer communities and yet simultaneously 297 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:04,640 removes funding for a visible deterrent within our community and and I recall 298 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:09,840 when they came before us how they uh they promised a lot and uh project gets 299 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:14,640 uh finally built after a number of years in this case. Um, and then ironically 300 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:17,919 they maybe that the partnership has shifted on their end which is very 301 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:21,760 unfortunate and extremely frustrating. And I know for myself if I'm fortunate 302 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,039 enough to sit around this table in the future and they come forward with a 303 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:29,600 proposal um I would be viewing it through a different lens because I'm not 304 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:33,120 100% confident that what's promised actually continues to materialize. Thank 305 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:38,480 you. >> Good point. Councelor Shields. Thank you 306 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:42,640 worship. Just on a side note, I think uh it's nice to see Griffin uh once again 307 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:46,559 retain this contract. They've been working for the city for a lot of years. 308 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:51,200 They do a bit of a thankless job downtown. I think they do quite well. 309 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:55,840 So, uh you know, opportunity to thank them for their past work and uh you 310 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:59,600 know, going forward, they work well with our bylaw, they work well with the RCMP, 311 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,840 they work well with all the players in town. So, it's good to hear that they're 312 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,679 back on. >> Okay, nothing else. Call the question. 313 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:10,159 All those in favor? Opposed? Motion carried. Next item. 314 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,000 » Next item. Your worship is a recommendation that council approve the 315 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:18,000 renewal of temporary use permit 219 with respect to property located at 45657 316 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,039 Stevenson Road. Subject to the recommendations as stipulated within the 317 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:24,640 draft permit. >> Move council read. Second councelor 318 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,360 clute. Discussion. Seeing none. All those in favor opposed. Motion carried. 319 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Next item. >> Next are the mayor and counselor's 320 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:33,559 reports. >> Let's go. Councelor Mercer. 321 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:43,039 Thank you, worship. Um, short couple of weeks for me on the 27th 322 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:49,679 of um, August uh, be my last BIA meeting, which was uh, um, sad but 323 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,760 happy, so to speak. A great group of people down there looking after our 324 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:57,600 downtown and advocating uh, for everything that's good under the great 325 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:04,000 leadership of Trevor McDonald. And uh shortly before that uh on the 326 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:09,039 19th along with councelor Shield's monthly public safety advisory committee 327 00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:13,919 meeting and that's it for me except my comment that school's coming back and uh 328 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:19,520 everybody needs to pay attention. Schools always exist for a purpose and 329 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:23,360 uh if you speed through them I hope you get exactly what you deserve. Thank you 330 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:28,080 very much. You got a little bit of a burn your bonnet today don't you don't 331 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,520 read. Thank you. Worship. On August the 26th, they attended the congregate 332 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:36,320 housing meeting. Uh bringing together a lot of the service providers, trying to 333 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:41,760 find unique ways for the um community and service providers to um bring people 334 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:46,720 together for housing. So, different alternatives um and and creative ways of 335 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:52,240 doing that. Was a great meeting on August the 27th. Um I met with the 336 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:54,960 Compassionate Neighbors, the seniors um group. It was supposed to be at Gwin 337 00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Vaughn, but it looked like the weather was going to be bad. So we met inside 338 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:05,679 and had a a lively conversation with the seniors in Chilowak looking for uh well 339 00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:13,600 congregate housing options. So that was a timely meeting. And then uh on August 340 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:20,080 the 28th I had the honor to um welcome the RCMP musical ride on your behalf. 341 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:26,640 And it was a great uh great event. There's lots of people there at the at 342 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:30,960 the um fairgrounds in the back and um just a real honor to be able to stand 343 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:35,440 there uh in your in your presence. So, thank you for that. And just echoing the 344 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,520 comments of school, watch out for those kiddos walking to school for the first 345 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:45,840 time, maybe on their own. Uh keep them safe and uh and yeah, be safe. 346 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,080 » Dr. Shields worship. Uh yeah, relatively quiet 347 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,159 couple of weeks for me. As council Mercer mentioned, the public safety 348 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:59,760 advisory committee meeting. Um and then I too on Friday night was at the RCMP 349 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:08,159 musical ride. What a wonderful show and and perfect night for it and and pretty 350 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:13,440 much a sold sold out uh arena. So um they ever come back and anybody gets a 351 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,399 chance, it's well worth going to. Um, and yeah, getting back to the kids going 352 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:24,080 to school, kids or parents, tell your kids to also watch out for cars and 353 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:28,399 scooters and other vehicles. They need to be be well aware of it, too. So, 354 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:33,320 let's make sure that we get through September without so much as a scratch. 355 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:41,120 » Thank you. Um, I also uh attended the uh RCP musical ride. The weather was 356 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:44,480 perfect. I think uh what was clear is there's probably enough grandstand 357 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:49,760 seating in that area. So definitely worth a consideration in the future. Um 358 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,440 also as was mentioned school starting but there's also thousands of ton of 359 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,880 corn that's going to be harvested in the month of September. So there's going to 360 00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:01,600 be a lot of farm vehicles on the road. So keep an eye out for for the big rigs 361 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,760 and with it getting dark now near 8:00 which is kind of weird. I guess we're 362 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:09,600 going into fall full steam but uh yeah there will be a lot of activity out in 363 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,279 the field. just ask people in tractors and outside of tractors to please be 364 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,440 cautious and use the rules of the road. Thank you, 365 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,360 » Mr. West. >> Nothing to report your worship. 366 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:24,320 » Okay. >> Thank you. Uh your worship on the uh 367 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:29,279 24th uh had a meeting at the economic development office downtown with Brian 368 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Kums later in the day. Had the opportunity to welcome uh the Redberry 369 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Restaurants franchise Jersey Mike to town. They opened a new sub shop and uh 370 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:46,960 28 28 new jobs in the city of Chilowak. Interesting. Redberry is one of the 371 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,480 largest restaurant franchises across Canada and uh they own the exclusive 372 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:56,640 rights to a number of different restaurants and this is one of the the 373 00:29:53,120 --> 00:30:00,559 the first two in uh in BC. Uh later that day I had a meeting with the province 374 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:06,480 British Columbia around manufacturing initiatives uh here and the Fraser 375 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Valley Regional District has a a resolution going forward to the UBCM 376 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:15,760 around uh industrial land preservation and uh the importance of that to uh to 377 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:19,760 our communities on the 31st uh yesterday had opportunity to join the Fraser River 378 00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:23,840 Challenge Expedition which is a 40 kilometer well it's a a paddle from the 379 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:29,919 headarters of the Fraser all the way to the ocean and Uh we did a section 40 380 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:34,559 kilometers from uh Agassy at the Champ Fishing Village out to Mission, get to 381 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:39,440 paddle in a canoe and uh kind of see the water uh or see the uh the city from 382 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:44,320 from a different perspective out in the water. And this is an uh this is an 383 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:49,200 initiative to raise awareness around um uh around protecting uh the Fraser and 384 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:56,000 the habitat that all five different species of salmon utilize the Fraser as 385 00:30:52,799 --> 00:31:00,480 spawning habit. in critical habitat. They've traced um they've traced salmon 386 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:05,120 from all over the province including up in the interior all the way to the the 387 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:10,320 the spawning coo uh coming up coming back from the ocean that utilize our in 388 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,840 particular our reach of the Fraser and uh so critically important to raise 389 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,919 awareness. There's a lot of really nice uh things said about uh about the city 390 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:24,640 and the the work and the partnership that our staff have done with uh with 391 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:30,240 the Pal Nations at Gilbar in particular and turning what was quite quite a 392 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:34,720 nightmare into uh you know we stopped at Gil and uh you know I remember walking 393 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,679 through there prior to some of the cleanups and I think at one point there 394 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,600 was a a burnt out vehicle up a tree somewhere. There was there was just an 395 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:48,559 absolute mess there. >> And uh it uh it's very different uh 396 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:53,840 today. It's quiet. You could hear the birds singing. Um and uh I was there. 397 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:59,039 Eddie Gardner was one of the ones leading the trip and uh I think he was 398 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,559 one of the only ones who kept paddling the whole time. There's a few coasters 399 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:08,480 on the on the yesterday, but not any. Anyways, 400 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:13,200 uh he had a lot of positive things to say about staff and and and council and 401 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:18,159 all the the support they received from the city. Um other than that, that's uh 402 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:23,120 that's all for Oh, actually, sorry. Today, I met briefly prior to council 403 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:29,120 with Lord Fraser flood committee talking about um their upcoming uh presentation 404 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:35,039 to the UBCM. a session all participating talking about just reducing some of the 405 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,159 silos and working together uh to attract some of the investment that's going to 406 00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:43,679 be required to build resilience in our communities. Uh I think it's really 407 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:47,440 timely uh especially considering uh you know the the federal government in 408 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,519 particular talking about trade corridors some of the things you worship that I 409 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:57,279 think you were meeting with the Siri board of trade uh last week so right up 410 00:32:55,679 --> 00:33:02,960 » uh right in line with some of those conversations. So that's all for me. 411 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:08,240 » Good good uh ju just a couple things. Last week I um had the pleasure of 412 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:15,440 having a tour of the Veter River and experienced the uh uh sediment removal 413 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:20,880 in action. And uh I I I visited two of the 10 spots that they are going to be 414 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:24,399 removing some gravel and and uh had some good good conversation with the 415 00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:30,799 contractor about how they're doing it and and uh the fish enhancement along 416 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:36,240 the lines of what you just said as well. So, it uh it's a necessary evil if I if 417 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:41,919 I say it that way. It's got to be done. So, uh folks who use a rotary trail, 418 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:48,159 just just be careful. It's it's well marked off. There are some gravel trucks 419 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:54,159 that do uh transfer the material on the trail actually and across the road. And 420 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:57,679 so, it's a it's quite a uh strategy that they're taking, but it's 421 00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:04,559 like I say, it's something that's needed to be done. And then um On the 26th 422 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:10,399 along with staffer Tara Fzen and the mayor of Hope, we took a drive into 423 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:16,960 Suriri, met with Minister Green that you know as a round table uh on on on behalf 424 00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:21,679 of the West Coast Corridor Resiliency Partnership that's with uh myself and 425 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:27,440 four other mayors and we're advocating hard for some federal funding to be a 426 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:31,919 line item uh you know because the floods are going to continue to happen and uh 427 00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:38,960 It's been four years with uh not a lot of uh well money for sure but work done 428 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:42,960 yet but it was an interesting uh um conversation. 429 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:49,760 I was hosted by the Siri board of trade and actually the lady said hello 430 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:54,320 to you. Um I yeah she said she remembers you from UBCM. So interesting 431 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:59,200 conversation and yeah that's all for me. Uh next item please madam clerk. Next is 432 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:03,680 a motion to adjourn to a close session session pursuant to section 91 I of the 433 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:07,280 community charter. >> Move councelor love second councelor 434 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:10,280 read. All those in favor opposed. We are done.