1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,520 Oh, man. 2 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Okay. >> Is this the same time? 3 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,880 » charger 4 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:49,040 seven >> Mhm. 5 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,040 » seven 6 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:56,680 We'll call the September the 8th, 2026 meeting of the Christiansburg Town 7 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Council to order. And as we always do, uh, we'll take a 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:06,640 moment of reflection, uh, give you a chance to think about events 9 00:01:04,199 --> 00:01:10,400 of the day, family, friends, relatives. So, let's just take a moment of 10 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,400 reflection. 11 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Thank you. If you will please rise and join us for the pledge of allegiance. 12 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:31,320 Uh, Mrs. Bowman, if she would lead tonight. 13 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:36,360 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 14 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,520 » And to the republic for which it stands, one nation 15 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,160 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 16 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,320 for all. >> Thank you. 17 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,800 All right. Are there any adjustments to the agenda? 18 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:59,320 » Yes, I would like to, uh, under the consent agenda, number four, item number 19 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:04,280 four, uh, the letter B, bill list. I would 20 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:08,320 like to separate the some 21 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,640 a couple of the things under the bills. Um 22 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:14,640 and those will be regarding the the drones, please. 23 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,160 » Okay. That's fine. 24 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Do you know where they are on the on the >> one of them is on page 11 to 14. 25 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:31,040 » Mhm. >> On main vehicle technologies, two drones 26 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:31,040 from UVT for $26,937.52. 27 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,120 And then there was another one under the was in a different place under the 28 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,320 bills. >> Okay. 29 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,959 » But it is for also for drones. >> Okay. 30 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Very good. We'll get to it. 31 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,440 All righty. Um 32 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,400 We have a code amendment Deborah with 33 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,080 » Mhm. >> Thank you. 34 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,400 Uh we have 35 00:02:55,959 --> 00:03:01,080 under public hearings, we have a code amendment request by town of 36 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:06,560 Christiansburg applicant to amend the Christiansburg town code chapter 42 37 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:10,600 section 42-397 permitted uses. Data centers are 38 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:15,600 currently allowed by right in the general industrial I2 zoning district. 39 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,640 And the request is to require conditional use permit for data centers 40 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:24,160 in the general industrial I2 zoning district. Is there 41 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,600 anyone here that would like to address this? 42 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:43,760 » Good evening. My name is Corey Hamilton. I live at 510 Ellett Road. 43 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:48,720 I support any measure which increases the burden NTT has to overcome to build 44 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,480 a data center in Christiansburg. In fact, I support increasing this 45 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,600 burden until it's functionally impossible to overcome. 46 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:59,680 No matter what promises are made or what short-term benefits there may be, data 47 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,280 centers are a net negative for the community. 48 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:07,880 The majority of employment opportunities they provide are short-term, such as 49 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:12,640 construction. They have long-term negative impacts, such as pollution and 50 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:16,000 wear and tear on our infrastructure. The goal should be to stop any efforts 51 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,959 to build a data center in Christiansburg before it can even begin. 52 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,600 Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? 53 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,400 » Hey there, Travis Story, 114 Scattergood. 54 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:40,840 Um first I want to say that um 55 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:45,880 I work with data and I think that anybody interested in this 56 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:51,480 Reda gave a presentation before this body that was excellent. Um 57 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:56,000 so shout out to Reda on that one. I do think that the 58 00:04:53,040 --> 00:05:00,560 primary one of the primary issues with is that the the town defines a data 59 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:04,520 center differently than the state of Virginia. 60 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Um and the town's definition doesn't fit with 61 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,400 the current parlance of what a data center is. 62 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Um I've discussed this with Mr. Broughton 63 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:17,400 and he brought to my attention that yeah, Virginia actually has a a pretty 64 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,880 good uh definition for it. Um 65 00:05:18,919 --> 00:05:24,680 and I I thank you for your consideration on this. 66 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,680 » Thank you. Anyone else? 67 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Seeing no one, I will close the public hearing. We'll go to the consent agenda 68 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:36,960 for approval of A, 69 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,480 » C, >> C, and D. 70 00:05:39,919 --> 00:05:44,919 » Motion to approve. >> Second. The motion is second. Any 71 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,480 discussion? Madam Clerk. 72 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,880 » Mr. Bishop. >> Aye. 73 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,360 » Mrs. Bowman. >> Aye. 74 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,720 » Mrs. Higgs. >> Aye. 75 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,160 » Mrs. Hackett. >> Aye. 76 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,480 » Mrs. Umberger. >> Aye. 77 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,280 » Mrs. Waltz. >> Aye. 78 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:01,120 » That is 6-0. Under the bill list, uh 79 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,880 you will hear that separately. There was a question about some drones. Is that 80 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:10,600 correct? >> Yes. Um 81 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:14,760 under page um 10 of 14, um 82 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:21,480 there is a DroneSense Incorporated DroneSense Software 5800. And then 83 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:29,480 there's another one for Unmanned Vehicle Technologies LLC UVT two drones for from 84 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,480 UVT $26,937.52. 85 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:38,160 I do not recall getting um like a presentation or a question thing 86 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:43,800 about this. Um is there Can you Can someone explain 87 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:49,640 why these items are here? Because my biggest concern is we're getting rid of 88 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:55,200 the flock, but also a concern that we can get other types of surveillances 89 00:06:53,240 --> 00:07:00,600 against you know um so I just wanted get clarification on 90 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:04,560 this, please. >> This is a continuation of a project 91 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,680 that's been in place for probably 7 years or more. We've already had drones. 92 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:13,400 We use them for search and rescue. We use them when people flee. 93 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Uh we don't keep them in the air and make and do surveillance with them. 94 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:22,640 DroneSense is the training software that allows us to download and record 95 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:27,640 training for our pilots. We have at least seven certified FAA 96 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:31,000 pilots to fly the drones that we have. 97 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:35,440 That's the news That's not new, but it's the 98 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:39,640 renewal or upgrades to that software that allows us to keep track of the 99 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:46,400 training the way we're required to. The two new drones replace the ones that 100 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:51,080 are old, out of date, and also were probably sec- or not sacrificed, but 101 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:55,800 probably compromised because of the Chinese companies that were involved in 102 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:59,560 the manufacture years ago. So, the US government has come out with a list of 103 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:04,160 things that aren't approved to be used anymore because of that concern. The new 104 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,040 drones meet the specifications of the government, so they don't have that risk 105 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,040 of that kind of compromise. 106 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,600 » Mhm. >> Um each drone is about $13,000. That's 107 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,800 why they're That's why it cost that much. 108 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:24,560 » Can I ask a question about the long- longevity and how often we pay for this 109 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,080 $5,800 for software? 110 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,240 » This is the second time that I know of that we've had to renew or upgrade the 111 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,440 software. Um 112 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,640 the longevity of the drones depends on the 113 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:41,719 life and service of the drone. Sometimes they crash, that kind of thing. I mean, 114 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:44,839 there's no way to know when that is, but they have a warranty. 115 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,560 They're serviceable for a few years. I mean, as 116 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:53,120 I said, we've had the drone program in place for about 7 years. Um and this is 117 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,120 the first time we've replaced both units. 118 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Uh they reached the end of their service life to where you couldn't get new parts 119 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:03,520 or replacement parts for them even if we didn't want to take them off of the 120 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:07,040 the list of of things that might be compromised. 121 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,320 » So, a couple of questions. You said that they are to replace 201s. 122 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Um you said that they um the the company was obviously compromised and everything 123 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,040 else, but when there is a compromise with a company and everything else, 124 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:25,480 sometimes the company makers will compensate us or 125 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,600 will compensate most consumers regarding, you know, those items. Is 126 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:32,080 there Is there 127 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,920 anything that is being talked about getting money back for this or any 128 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:40,480 compensation regarding this? >> I mean, there was concern that they 129 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:44,720 might be compromised because of Chinese manufacturers of the components. 130 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,840 I don't know that there was ever proof, but the US government 131 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:54,280 banned the import or whatever and use of that, so we had to come into compliance 132 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:59,240 with the new things. There's not a compensation factor, plus they'd already 133 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,640 reached the end of their service life. I mean, they're not going We're not 134 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:06,560 taking them out of service just because of that. They're taking them out because 135 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:12,200 we can't repair them anymore. >> And now, are they These new drones, do 136 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:16,040 they have AI capabilities? >> Not that I'm aware of. They have a 137 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,720 forward-looking infrared camera. They have visible camera. You can 138 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:24,400 fly them into a place and talk to somebody through it. 139 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Um but I don't If it does, I don't know of it, but I'm not a drone pilot, so I 140 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,600 don't I don't know the answer to that question. 141 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,680 » And what are we going to do with the 201s, please? 142 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,600 » With what? >> The 201s, the ones that you were taking 143 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,120 down. >> trash them. I mean, I don't know that 144 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,520 there's anything you can do with them other than 145 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,200 get rid of them. >> But we will get rid of them and we will 146 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,760 not sell them or >> No, we're not going to sell them or 147 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:56,920 reuse them. >> Okay. Uh do we have to file or make sure 148 00:10:53,280 --> 00:11:00,000 that there is some type of paperwork to make sure that they are completely 149 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,040 destroyed? >> No. 150 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,360 » Mm. Okay. 151 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,080 » All right. >> Thank you very much for the question. 152 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:11,080 » Any other comments or questions? >> I'll make a motion to approve item B. 153 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,640 » Second. >> Because sent agenda. 154 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,120 » Sorry. >> I'll have a second. 155 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,480 » Second, yes. >> We have a motion and a second. Any 156 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,040 discussion? Vote on the board. 157 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,440 » I'm sorry. >> I have one more question about the 158 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,480 bills, Ashley, and that had to do with the 159 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:32,800 regarding the face painting and the music stuff for farmers market. Were you 160 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:37,040 able to get some clarification from >> Um I did. Um I have a list. Uh we've 161 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:41,320 been doing that for the last couple of years. So, I have a conversation 162 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,760 scheduled with uh Brad Eberly to to talk about that. 163 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:48,080 » Okay. And the way I feel about that one, obviously, we're going to have some 164 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:52,720 future conversations regarding the farmers market, but if we are not making 165 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:57,000 any money financially income or anything like that from the vendor side of the 166 00:11:54,440 --> 00:12:01,520 farmers market, I do believe that this money uh probably taxpayers should be uh 167 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:05,040 spent somewhere else. Um but, that's my opinion. So, thank you so much. 168 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,680 » Thank you. Madam Clark. 169 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 » Mr. Bishop. >> I. 170 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:12,000 » Mrs. Bowman. >> I. 171 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,360 » Mrs. Hicks. >> I. 172 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,040 » Mrs. Hackett. >> I. 173 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,360 » Mrs. Umberger. >> I. 174 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:20,000 » Mrs. Waltz. >> I. 175 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:24,360 » Under 6-0, we have no introductions or presentations tonight. This is the uh 176 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:28,480 we'll go into the citizens comments section, which is uh 177 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:33,000 time we open for our citizens to come forth and discuss issues within the town 178 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,960 that may have concern. Uh we ask that you come to the 179 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:40,720 microphone, that you give your name, 180 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:44,640 street address, and town, and that you speak directly into the 181 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,880 microphone at all times without turning your head to look in the crowd because 182 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,680 we get complaints people can't hear what's going on. 183 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,800 And you will address your comments to me as the chair. 184 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,680 Anyone here to address citizens comments? Yes, ma'am. 185 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:06,920 » Uh Sandy Lightner, 160 Lexington, Fishersburg. 186 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:11,760 I try really hard to make positive comments when I do make comments, but 187 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:17,280 something happened at the last um regular town council meeting 188 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:23,640 that I and some others noticed that was disturbing. 189 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:30,520 And um it involved one council member who um was on their phone 190 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:34,000 when citizen comments was um taking place. There were a lot of citizen 191 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:39,680 comments. And uh this person was on the phone most 192 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:43,720 of that time. And it seemed really disrespectful to 193 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:49,160 me. Um we only have 3 minutes to address you 194 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:54,800 with our concerns. And um 195 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:58,600 to see someone on their phone and this wasn't just looking at the phone. This 196 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,720 was using the phone. I don't know whether 197 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,880 they were texting or but they were typing things in. 198 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:11,000 Um it seems to me that when 199 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:15,440 citizens address you it shouldn't be a problem with you not 200 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:21,440 giving them uh your full attention. 201 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:26,880 And I hope um that that will happen from now on. Thank you. 202 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,880 » Thank you. Anyone else? 203 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,760 » Travis Story, 114 Skater's Good. Um you all have 204 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Well, first thank you for the vote on Flock last week or last time. You know, 205 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:47,520 my stance on Flock and I'm very anti-surveillance. 206 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:51,240 The drones that the police use broadcast where and when they're being used. 207 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Police are very public about it. I have no concerns there and I promise you to 208 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,600 hear about it if I thought there was any kind of problem 209 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,680 with what they're doing. They're even good about providing footage to the 210 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:05,640 public. Um I'm mostly here to talk about uh 211 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:09,480 there's uh public hearing scheduled for next meeting and there was a public 212 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:14,120 hearing for the planning commission last week for a development at 2040 Parkway 213 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Drive Southeast. Um but no information about it is being 214 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:22,760 made public. The landowner is claiming by right 215 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:26,360 development for everything except this one thing that the CUP is asking for, 216 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:31,400 but you don't have any by right development if you don't have public 217 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:34,640 plans that have been approved. Um they're asking for something much taller 218 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,520 than the code allows, which is why they want the 219 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,400 CUP. Um 220 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:45,240 I think prior to the public hearing coming before this body would be very 221 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:48,400 very helpful if the public knew what this development was going to be. 222 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:53,280 Um the tower or whatever it is that they're 223 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:57,360 going to be building, um they're problems using like explaining 224 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:01,280 how big things are, but it's larger than 10 Olympic swimming pools. It's It's 225 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,720 bigger than any anything around here that I could find 226 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,440 to compare it to. Um and that we don't know what that is 227 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:11,600 going to be is a a problem, especially with the hearing coming up. Um if there 228 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:15,080 is a legal case for keeping something like this private, 229 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:19,320 something other than town negotiations and police matters, um I'm sure people 230 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,520 would would want to know. I know there were people asking at the planning 231 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,720 commission, "Hey, what is this?" and they weren't able they weren't able to 232 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,720 be given an answer at that time. Thank you. 233 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,720 » Thank you. Anyone else? 234 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,720 Seeing no one, I'm going to close the citizens' comments. We will go into 235 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:39,680 committee report. Uh have any committees met within since 236 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,839 our last meeting, Mr. Bishop? >> No. 237 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,800 » Uh Ms. Hicks? >> No, sir. 238 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,720 » Ms. Hackett? >> No reports. 239 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,560 » Mr. Bowman? >> No, sir. 240 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,720 » Ms. Umberger? >> No. 241 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,800 » And Ms. Watts? >> No, we meet next week. 242 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,920 » Very good. Discussion and action by mayor and 243 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,720 council. Um 244 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,600 the appointment of Brad St. Clair as a joint appointed member of the New River 245 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:09,079 Valley Regional Emergency Communications Regional Authority to fulfill the 246 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:15,880 remainder of Kevin Foss's term expiring March 31, 2027. The appointment shall be 247 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:20,280 effective September 1, 2026. And Mr. St. Clair is here tonight? 248 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,720 He was. There you go. Great. 249 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,480 » Motion to approve. >> Second. 250 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:30,800 » You have a motion and a second. Discussion? 251 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,800 » Thank you for being here today. 252 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,560 » All right. Madam Clerk. 253 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,200 » Mr. Bishop. >> Uh 254 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,720 » Mrs. Bowman. >> Aye. 255 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,160 » Mrs. Hicks. >> Aye. 256 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,800 » Mrs. Hackett. >> Aye. 257 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,160 » Mrs. Umberger. >> Aye. 258 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,960 » Mrs. Waltz. >> Aye. 259 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:52,320 » That is 6-0. The appointment of Assistant Chief of Police Steven Swecker 260 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:57,160 to the New River Valley ASAP Policy Board. Appointment shall be effective 261 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:59,160 September 22nd, 2026. >> Motion to approve. 262 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,120 » Second. >> Motion and a second. Comments or 263 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,680 questions? Madam Clerk. 264 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,080 » Mr. Bishop. >> Uh 265 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,680 » Mrs. Bowman. >> Aye. 266 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,160 » Mrs. Hicks. >> Aye. 267 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,640 » Mrs. Hackett. >> Aye. 268 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,000 » Mrs. Umberger. >> Aye. 269 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,160 » Mrs. Waltz. >> Aye. 270 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:22,040 » That is 6-0. Non-exclusive franchise agreement with 271 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:24,480 Point Broadband Fiber Holding LLC. >> Motion to approve. 272 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,560 » Second. >> Second. Motion and a second. 273 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,920 Any comments? >> I have a question for this. This is just 274 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:37,120 the fibered um the cables going under the ground, but 275 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:41,200 then they're not going to have any antennas or anything like that. This 276 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,040 company is now. >> No, it's the wires. 277 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,560 » There's some aerial wires. >> wires is not going in the ground. 278 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,520 » Oh. >> It's both. 279 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:57,720 » Oh, it's both. Okay. And then are they going to use like any of those boxes 280 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:01,960 that um where they will have all the uh I guess the connectors and everything 281 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:05,800 else connected. Do they connect to like electricity or anything like that by any 282 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:11,280 chance? Okay. My biggest concern when we do like 283 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:16,600 anything that is like this and stuff is just to to have boxes that make noises 284 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:22,400 and things like that. And so that was why my questions. Thank you. 285 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,480 » So we have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk. 286 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,040 » Mr. Bishop. >> Aye. 287 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,520 » Mrs. Bowman. >> Aye. 288 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,920 » Mrs. Hicks. >> Aye. 289 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,440 » Mrs. Hackett. >> Aye. 290 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,880 » Mrs. Umberger. >> Aye. 291 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,120 » Mrs. Waltz. >> Aye. 292 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:42,000 » That is 6-0. We have road closure for the CHS homecoming parade for October 293 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:48,920 the 7th, 2026. The closures will occur in the staggered time frame between 3:00 294 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:52,920 p.m. to 3:45 p.m. A temporary shutdown for barricades and the actual street 295 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,360 closure for the event is from 5:00 to 8:00 p.m. The road closures are as 296 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,880 follows: East Main Street from Park Street to 297 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:05,240 North Franklin Street, West Main Street from North Franklin Street to Radford 298 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:11,520 Street, Roanoke Street from East Main Street to First Street, Southeast 299 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Pepper Street Northeast from Hill Street Northeast to I'm 300 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,000 reading too quick here. To First Street uh 301 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:26,120 North Franklin Street from Commerce Street Northwest to First Street 302 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:31,400 Southeast, College Street to the west of to West Main Street, Phlegar Street from 303 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:36,920 First Street to uh West Main Street, Radford Street from 304 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Northwest uh Radford Street Northwest from Depot Street to West Main Street 305 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:46,520 and College Street Northwest from College from Radford Street to 306 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,360 Sheridan's Circle Northwest. >> Motion to approve. 307 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,920 » Second. >> Motion and a second, any comments or 308 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,880 discussions? Madam Clerk. 309 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,480 » Mr. Bishop. >> Aye. 310 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,520 » Mrs. Bowman. >> Aye. 311 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,080 » Mrs. Hicks. >> Aye. 312 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,920 » Mrs. Hackett. >> Aye. 313 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,360 » Mrs. Umberger. >> Aye. 314 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,080 » Mrs. Waltz. >> Aye. 315 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,640 » That is 7-0, thank you. We have a code amendment request with the town of 316 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:17,360 Christiansburg applicant to amend the Christiansburg town code 317 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:21,200 chapter 42 section 42-397, permitted uses. Data centers are 318 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,800 currently allowed by right in the general industrial I-2 zoning district. 319 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:31,400 And the request is to require conditional use permit for data centers 320 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:32,880 in the general industrial I-2 zoning district. 321 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,160 » Motion to approve. >> Second. 322 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,280 » Motion and a second. Comments? >> I'm really 323 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,960 I'm going ahead. Is there a need for us to update the our definition of data 324 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,960 centers? 325 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,960 » I don't believe so based on the feedback we've received thus far. I'm not sure 326 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,320 I'm looking at Retta from planning to see if you have any additional 327 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,040 information on the the definition discussion. 328 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:04,800 » Good evening. It will be up to you. 329 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:10,040 The state code goes into more detail than ours does. Ours is pretty vague. Um 330 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:14,960 I think it's maybe matching up to like the first line of the Virginia code, so 331 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:20,800 um that's up to to you if and also our 332 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:24,600 attorney if he has a recommendation. >> I have a couple of concerns that that 333 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,000 was going to be my question, so thank you, Tonya. Um 334 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,600 » Well, can we get a recommendation I mean, did you have a recommendation? 335 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:33,840 » I think that would be something you could look at in the future to to give 336 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,120 better clarity on on what is a data center cuz 337 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,520 as Retta said, it's pretty vague right now. 338 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,000 » But not required for us to make this amendment. It's just where we do It's 339 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:47,280 defined separately. >> I'd say this is a good first step. 340 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:51,120 » Okay, thank you. Can we um What is the step What are the steps 341 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:55,680 right now to change the definition into more um 342 00:22:53,240 --> 00:23:01,000 defined inform you know, like definition for this because I do think 343 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:07,280 I'm very much against the data centers right now, and I want to make sure 344 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:11,240 that they do not come here as much as we are able to, you know? 345 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:17,000 But, I also don't want to buy rights. So, 346 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:21,320 um if we were to vote on this this um right now, 347 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:26,280 we can change it to now, but can What is the process for us to be able to change 348 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:30,720 it again within the next month? I would really like to work on this rapidly cuz 349 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,480 I don't want any chances of the data centers coming because we have 350 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:39,480 the incorrect definition as far as the data centers. 351 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:44,200 » If I might interject, the uh guideline would be for us to 352 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:49,000 to ask the planning commission to research the definitions and come back 353 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:55,120 with a recommendation as to what we're going to do. It's not going to change 354 00:23:52,680 --> 00:24:00,520 what the definit- the definitions not going to change the fact that we require 355 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:04,520 now, if we pass this, we require a conditional use permit for a data 356 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,080 center, whatever the definition may be. Is that correct? 357 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,680 » correct. >> And you have nothing in place currently. 358 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,640 » Yes. >> As a reminder. 359 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,440 » Can I ask a question? Was data centers one of the definitions that you were 360 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,680 looking at changing? I know you were going through definitions with the 361 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,800 planning commission. Was this one of the actual definitions you were looking at? 362 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,760 » I don't believe that was on the list, but it will be now. 363 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,840 » It will be now. Thank you. >> Yeah, can I can I say something too? 364 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:31,200 Yeah, I too would like for that to be looked at, and if it needs to be 365 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:36,280 changed, would like to go ahead and start that process because I started 366 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:40,480 asking about this ordinance back in December, 367 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:47,280 and it's taken us this long to get this little tiny bit done. So, I don't want 368 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:51,000 to draw it out another 8 months. So, if it needs to be done, I'd like to see 369 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,960 it moved on quickly. >> And if it if it is that we just want to 370 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:59,400 match the the state code, >> That should be pretty simple. 371 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:03,560 » and and we would just need to um properly advertise and have the public 372 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,400 hearings because it does it is housed in the zoning code. So. 373 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:11,200 » Thank you. >> My idea was for this like about almost 374 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:16,320 two years to go as far as like making sure that there's some things that will 375 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:20,760 keep them away from us. But I do like the idea of having as many definitions 376 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,280 as possible. Just add them all. >> Okay. 377 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,440 » And so that'd be good. >> Cool. 378 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:31,200 » Whatever we do tonight will will slow things down if not send 379 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,920 it to a grinding halt. >> Yes. 380 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,360 » Thank you. Madam Clerk. >> Mr. Bishop. 381 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,880 » Uh >> Mrs. Bowman. 382 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,240 » Hi. >> Mrs. Heggs. 383 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,680 » Hi. >> Mrs. Hackett. 384 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,120 » Hi. >> Mrs. Umberger. 385 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,240 » Hi. >> Mrs. Waltz. 386 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,520 » Hi. >> That is 6-0. Thank you. Staff reports. 387 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Dr. Eagle. >> I have two things. 388 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:57,920 » I have two items for the the council tonight. The first is related to an 389 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,600 update on the compensation study that we talked about as a part of the budget 390 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:07,000 process. That work is proceeding. So I'll have more updates as the consultant 391 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,520 makes progress and interviews staff members and supervisors. 392 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,480 But I wanted you to know that that work is progressing. 393 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,760 The second item is related to the schedule and just to touch base on the 394 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:22,520 work session for the 16th of September. So I tentatively 395 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:27,640 have scheduled an update for you all on the consolidation of parks and rec and 396 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:33,120 aquatics into one department. And the second item is a conversation we 397 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:38,880 need to revisit related to the ARC grant for the farmers market and and bringing 398 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,840 some closure hopefully to that that item. So those are the two items for the 399 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,400 work session coming up. >> Thank you. 400 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,520 » That's all I have. >> Mr. Broughton. 401 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:51,440 » No report, Mayor. >> Any other town staff that would like to 402 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Council reports. Mr. Bishop. >> No report. 403 00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:01,040 » Miss Miss Hicks. >> Yes. Um 404 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:07,080 I want to address the concern from the citizen that spoke about using a phone. 405 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:12,640 I do appreciate you coming out here and speaking about it. Um fortunately, I get 406 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:16,360 this iPad thing, which we all get, and they all have a code and everything. 407 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:21,160 I've been trying to get into that thing for for a while now, and so I have to 408 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:26,120 use my phone. And in my phone, there's emails, there's all the information 409 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:30,640 regarding what I needed for the flock last week, and well, or 2 weeks ago. So, 410 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:35,880 it was really important for me to find the flock camera thing, and all my 411 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:40,040 information that I had on my notes and the stuff like that were actually in 412 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:44,120 there because also my printer broke at work. And so, I do 413 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,160 um I do um 414 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,840 want to apologize if you feel like I was looking on my phone the whole time. I 415 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:57,680 was definitely doing town council things. I When I come over here, I'm all 416 00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:03,200 town council. And I'm definitely I I love the fact that I am able to, you 417 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:07,840 know, have my phone with me all times to be able to see that information when I 418 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,200 do not have the thing, which today I had the same issue. I'm unable to get into 419 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,960 the thing cuz somehow or another, I don't memorize the 420 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:20,680 numbers very well. And so, to like to log into it, so I do apologize if it 421 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:24,320 seemed wrong that I was looking at my phone, but I was definitely paying 422 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:29,040 attention to what was happening last the last time in town council. So, thank you 423 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,360 for speaking out. Thanks. >> Miss Hackett. 424 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,160 » Nothing to report. >> Miss Bowman. 425 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,800 » Nothing, thank you. >> Miss Zumberger. 426 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,560 » No, sir. >> Miss Waltz. 427 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,480 » Nothing. Can I make 428 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,440 » Is there any other business to come before council? 429 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:50,680 » Oh, please. Um Um, I wanted to see if there was a possibility that we can 430 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:55,640 really look at the um that meeting for the first week in October since we 431 00:28:53,000 --> 00:29:00,640 definitely typically don't have a meeting the first week of the month and 432 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:05,320 we moved it because we had the VML conferences on the week of the 13th. Is 433 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,120 there a possibility that you guys can reconsider your vote, please, on 434 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,840 changing that and just canceling that meeting completely? 435 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,200 » I think at the last meeting it was pretty much unanimous that we would have 436 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,360 the meeting or to an extent or majority. 437 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,040 » Can anybody change that? >> I would be willing to 438 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:27,560 I Dr. Eagle, how much stuff is on the schedule for the 6th? 439 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520 Okay. Is that time-sensitive? 440 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Okay. 441 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Okay. 442 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:03,680 Just a second. Wouldn't >> Yeah, I think the problem is and I wish 443 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:08,640 that uh Councilwoman Hicks would have spoke up at the last meeting. I probably 444 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:14,040 would have voted different. It's her youngest daughter's birthday and it's 445 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:20,080 not a night that we normally meet and I certainly can understand that. So, I 446 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:25,120 would be willing to try to readjust myself because of that. If it was a 447 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,920 normal meeting night, I would say, you know, okay, but 448 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:33,920 um I think we do try to make considerations for for staff and others 449 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:38,440 and you know, I think she should have the same consideration. 450 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:43,680 » Well, we are all spending a lot of time away from our lives going to these 451 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:48,280 conferences and it's a lot of work. I mean, we're waking up at 6:00 in the 452 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:52,280 morning, being there for a whole day. It's not a really vacation time, as you 453 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:57,480 can say. And I mean, it really takes away from 454 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:01,880 our lives and for us to be I mean, for me to be gone even for that many days is 455 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,760 um which I understand that. So, I put those 456 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,280 days away as far as that goes, but no, it was my Ashley, my older daughters 457 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:17,760 birthday. But, yeah. But But, yeah, it's it just 458 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:21,520 adds a lot more work into it, but if there is a way to reconsider that, 459 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:26,440 please. >> I I have my birthday and Fred's birthday 460 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,080 were on the work sessions. Uh 461 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:34,560 with my children, I would just have it another day. I mean, you know, so that 462 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,240 I don't know, just >> You You choose what you want to do. 463 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,080 You're staying >> Yeah, just what what we're doing because 464 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:46,360 I understand that you would like to have it on that same day, but we all like we 465 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,280 all have family things that happen on the 466 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,680 days that >> I have had spent many birthdays in here, 467 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,800 too, in town council. >> It's part of the job. 468 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,320 » I think graduations. >> I think my biggest issue with it is that 469 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:06,440 we asked to readjust really quickly. We didn't actually get a lot of time cuz it 470 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:10,680 came up. And so, I mean, if you already made these plans and you know, I don't 471 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,400 know exactly how they're planning on celebrating, but if it's with multiple 472 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,880 family members, um I know Joanna has a big family and 473 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:24,080 they travel from New Jersey and different areas of So, 474 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:28,440 that's my biggest worry regarding that. 475 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:34,000 » Well, I mean, I'm not sure what is scheduled for that agenda. 476 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Uh it's certainly something that Ms. Hicks, if you feel strongly and and I 477 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,040 encourage you, you can miss that meeting. I mean, it's not going to 478 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,760 we're not going to dock your pay or anything for that. 479 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,960 But, I mean, we had talked about it and particularly 480 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:52,480 there is a two of the budget of Jim amendments 481 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:57,000 have to do with the fire station with fire trucks that we've already approved. 482 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,880 » But, those are going to be on the 22nd, right? 483 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:04,840 » That's the public hearing, but we don't vote on them until 2 weeks later. 484 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,360 » Typically what >> Typically what town council has asked is 485 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,720 that we have the public hearing and then you vote at the next meeting. 486 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:17,920 Um so, I was going to bring them back for the October 6th meeting for you to 487 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:21,880 vote on the approval of both amendments. So, one of them is for the carryover of 488 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,520 the Arrowhead Arrow. 489 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,400 » Arrowhead. >> project. And the other one is for the 490 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:32,200 fire truck purchases, and the fire trucks are estimated to come in right 491 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:36,080 around the end of September. So, the sooner we can approve those, then we can 492 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,840 get those town paid. They originally told us the end of October, so I wasn't 493 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,560 stressed about it, and then they're like, "Nope, just kidding, they're going 494 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,200 to be in sooner." So. 495 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:48,240 » Which he um as far as that one, I know we're not 496 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:55,360 talking about that one, but as far as like even the fire trucks, um 497 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:59,760 they were um there was one in the on the previous budget from my understanding 498 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,480 for years now, right? And then this second one, where from where do we get 499 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,720 two fire trucks and they're from? Because I know there was like 500 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:13,919 money for the one, and then there was like $600,000 put on the side, right? 501 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,399 » saved up, I think. From what I could tell looking back, it looked like around 502 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,520 2021 >> One. 503 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,240 » One is when you guys started putting apart side money. I don't know if Chief 504 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,000 had >> But, for the two fire trucks or one? 505 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:32,639 » originally was done for one, maybe, but I know that there's enough saved for two 506 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:38,440 cuz they They're cost about 1. 5, 1.4 something million. 507 00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:41,879 And so there is enough for two there now in the reserves. 508 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:46,240 » Cuz on the budget itself, I don't think it that was the wording for. 509 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,320 » It actually it was for the full amount. It was for both of them. Part of it's 510 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,480 coming from a separate fund. >> Okay. 511 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,840 » Okay. >> So, 512 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,960 I mean, >> Okay. 513 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:58,400 » At this point, I would say the meeting is still on. 514 00:34:56,919 --> 00:35:02,400 » it. >> So, we'll go from here. Anything else? 515 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:09,200 I'm going to have to go get a hamburger or something. My wife's going to expect 516 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,200 me home in a minute. We're adjourned. 517 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,720 » Joe. This is my office.