[0:07] Oh, man.
[0:22] Okay.
>> Is this the same time?
[0:25] » charger
[0:45] seven
>> Mhm.
[0:46] » seven
[0:50] We'll call the September the 8th, 2026
meeting of the Christiansburg Town
[0:54] Council to order.
And as we always do, uh, we'll take a
[0:58] moment of reflection, uh,
give you a chance to think about events
[1:04] of the day, family, friends, relatives.
So, let's just take a moment of
[1:07] reflection.
[1:21] Thank you. If you will please rise and
join us for the pledge of allegiance.
[1:24] Uh, Mrs. Bowman, if she would lead
tonight.
[1:28] » I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America.
[1:33] » And to the republic for which it stands,
one nation
[1:37] under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[1:41] for all.
>> Thank you.
[1:49] All right. Are there any adjustments to
the agenda?
[1:52] » Yes, I would like to, uh, under the
consent agenda, number four, item number
[1:58] four,
uh, the letter B, bill list. I would
[2:01] like to separate the
some
[2:05] a couple of the things under the bills.
Um
[2:09] and those will be regarding the
the drones, please.
[2:13] » Okay.
That's fine.
[2:17] Do you know where they are on the on the
>> one of them is on page 11 to 14.
[2:22] » Mhm.
>> On main vehicle technologies, two drones
[2:26] from UVT for $26,937.52.
[2:32] And then there was another one under the
was in a different place under the
[2:37] bills.
>> Okay.
[2:38] » But it is for also for drones.
>> Okay.
[2:41] Very good.
We'll get to it.
[2:46] All righty.
Um
[2:49] We have a code amendment Deborah
with
[2:52] » Mhm.
>> Thank you.
[2:54] Uh
we have
[2:55] under public hearings, we have a code
amendment request by town of
[2:58] Christiansburg applicant to amend the
Christiansburg town code chapter 42
[3:03] section 42-397
permitted uses. Data centers are
[3:08] currently allowed by right in the
general industrial I2 zoning district.
[3:14] And the request is to require
conditional use permit for data centers
[3:18] in the general
industrial I2 zoning district. Is there
[3:22] anyone here that would like to address
this?
[3:35] » Good evening. My name is Corey Hamilton.
I live at 510 Ellett Road.
[3:41] I support any measure which increases
the burden NTT has to overcome to build
[3:46] a data center in Christiansburg.
In fact, I support increasing this
[3:50] burden until it's functionally
impossible to overcome.
[3:53] No matter what promises are made or what
short-term benefits there may be, data
[3:58] centers are a net negative for the
community.
[4:01] The majority of employment opportunities
they provide are short-term, such as
[4:05] construction. They have long-term
negative impacts, such as pollution and
[4:10] wear and tear on our infrastructure.
The goal should be to stop any efforts
[4:14] to build a data center in Christiansburg
before it can even begin.
[4:18] Thank you.
>> Thank you. Anyone else?
[4:30] » Hey there, Travis Story, 114
Scattergood.
[4:33] Um
first I want to say that um
[4:38] I work with data and
I think that anybody interested in this
[4:43] Reda gave a presentation before this
body that was excellent. Um
[4:49] so shout out to Reda on that one. I do
think that the
[4:53] primary one of the primary issues
with is that the the town defines a data
[4:58] center differently than the state of
Virginia.
[5:01] Um and the town's definition doesn't fit
with
[5:05] the current parlance of what a data
center is.
[5:09] Um
I've discussed this with Mr. Broughton
[5:11] and he brought to my attention that
yeah, Virginia actually has a a pretty
[5:15] good uh definition for it.
Um
[5:18] and I I thank you for your consideration
on this.
[5:21] » Thank you. Anyone else?
[5:26] Seeing no one, I will close the public
hearing. We'll go to the consent agenda
[5:31] for approval of A,
[5:37] » C,
>> C, and D.
[5:39] » Motion to approve.
>> Second. The motion is second. Any
[5:43] discussion?
Madam Clerk.
[5:46] » Mr. Bishop.
>> Aye.
[5:47] » Mrs. Bowman.
>> Aye.
[5:49] » Mrs. Higgs.
>> Aye.
[5:50] » Mrs. Hackett.
>> Aye.
[5:52] » Mrs. Umberger.
>> Aye.
[5:53] » Mrs. Waltz.
>> Aye.
[5:54] » That is 6-0.
Under the bill list, uh
[5:59] you will hear that separately. There was
a question about some drones. Is that
[6:04] correct?
>> Yes. Um
[6:06] under page um 10 of 14,
um
[6:12] there is a DroneSense Incorporated
DroneSense Software 5800. And then
[6:18] there's another one for Unmanned Vehicle
Technologies LLC UVT two drones for from
[6:25] UVT $26,937.52.
[6:30] I do not recall getting um
like a presentation or a question thing
[6:36] about this.
Um is there Can you Can someone explain
[6:41] why these items are here? Because my
biggest concern is we're getting rid of
[6:46] the flock, but also a concern that we
can get other types of surveillances
[6:53] against you know
um so I just wanted get clarification on
[6:58] this, please.
>> This is a continuation of a project
[7:02] that's been in place for probably 7
years or more. We've already had drones.
[7:06] We use them for search and rescue. We
use them when people flee.
[7:10] Uh we don't keep them in the air and
make and do surveillance with them.
[7:15] DroneSense is the training software that
allows us to download and record
[7:20] training for our pilots.
We have at least seven certified FAA
[7:25] pilots to fly
the drones that we have.
[7:29] That's the
news That's not new, but it's the
[7:32] renewal or upgrades to that software
that allows us to keep track of the
[7:37] training the way we're required to.
The two new drones replace the ones that
[7:42] are old, out of date, and also were
probably sec- or not sacrificed, but
[7:49] probably compromised because of the
Chinese companies that were involved in
[7:52] the manufacture years ago. So, the US
government has come out with a list of
[7:57] things that aren't approved to be used
anymore because of that concern. The new
[8:02] drones meet the specifications of the
government, so they don't have that risk
[8:06] of
that kind of compromise.
[8:09] » Mhm.
>> Um each drone is about $13,000. That's
[8:12] why they're
That's why it cost that much.
[8:16] » Can I ask a question about the long-
longevity and how often we pay for this
[8:22] $5,800
for software?
[8:25] » This is the second time that I know of
that we've had to renew or upgrade the
[8:29] software.
Um
[8:32] the longevity of the drones depends on
the
[8:35] life and service of the drone. Sometimes
they crash, that kind of thing. I mean,
[8:39] there's no way to know
when that is, but they have a warranty.
[8:43] They're
serviceable for a few years. I mean, as
[8:46] I said, we've had the drone program in
place for about 7 years. Um and this is
[8:51] the first time we've replaced both
units.
[8:54] Uh they reached the end of their service
life to where you couldn't get new parts
[8:57] or replacement parts for them even if we
didn't want to take them off of the
[9:01] the list of of things that might be
compromised.
[9:05] » So, a couple of questions. You said that
they are to replace 201s.
[9:09] Um you said that they um the the company
was obviously compromised and everything
[9:14] else, but when there is a compromise
with a company and everything else,
[9:18] sometimes the
company makers will compensate us or
[9:23] will compensate most consumers
regarding, you know, those items. Is
[9:27] there
Is there
[9:29] anything that is being talked about
getting money back for this or any
[9:34] compensation regarding this?
>> I mean, there was concern that they
[9:38] might be compromised because of Chinese
manufacturers of the components.
[9:43] I don't know that there was ever proof,
but the US government
[9:47] banned the import or whatever and use of
that, so we had to come into compliance
[9:51] with the new things. There's not a
compensation factor, plus they'd already
[9:56] reached the end of their service life.
I mean, they're not going We're not
[10:00] taking them out of service just because
of that. They're taking them out because
[10:04] we can't repair them anymore.
>> And now, are they These new drones, do
[10:09] they have AI capabilities?
>> Not that I'm aware of. They have a
[10:13] forward-looking infrared camera. They
have visible camera. You can
[10:18] fly them into a place and talk to
somebody through it.
[10:21] Um but I don't If it does, I don't know
of it, but I'm not a drone pilot, so I
[10:26] don't I don't know the answer to that
question.
[10:28] » And what are we going to do with the
201s, please?
[10:32] » With what?
>> The 201s, the ones that you were taking
[10:35] down.
>> trash them. I mean, I don't know that
[10:38] there's anything you can do with them
other than
[10:41] get rid of them.
>> But we will get rid of them and we will
[10:44] not sell them or
>> No, we're not going to sell them or
[10:47] reuse them.
>> Okay. Uh do we have to file or make sure
[10:53] that there is some type of paperwork
to make sure that they are completely
[10:58] destroyed?
>> No.
[11:01] » Mm.
Okay.
[11:03] » All right.
>> Thank you very much for the question.
[11:05] » Any other comments or questions?
>> I'll make a motion to approve item B.
[11:10] » Second.
>> Because sent agenda.
[11:12] » Sorry.
>> I'll have a second.
[11:15] » Second, yes.
>> We have a motion and a second. Any
[11:17] discussion?
Vote on the board.
[11:20] » I'm sorry.
>> I have one more question about the
[11:22] bills, Ashley, and that had to do with
the
[11:25] regarding the face painting and the
music stuff for farmers market. Were you
[11:31] able to get some clarification from
>> Um I did. Um I have a list. Uh we've
[11:35] been doing that for the last couple of
years. So, I have a conversation
[11:38] scheduled with uh Brad Eberly to to talk
about that.
[11:42] » Okay. And the way I feel about that one,
obviously, we're going to have some
[11:46] future conversations regarding the
farmers market, but if we are not making
[11:50] any money financially income or anything
like that from the vendor side of the
[11:54] farmers market, I do believe that this
money uh probably taxpayers should be uh
[11:59] spent somewhere else. Um but, that's my
opinion. So, thank you so much.
[12:03] » Thank you.
Madam Clark.
[12:08] » Mr. Bishop.
>> I.
[12:09] » Mrs. Bowman.
>> I.
[12:11] » Mrs. Hicks.
>> I.
[12:12] » Mrs. Hackett.
>> I.
[12:13] » Mrs. Umberger.
>> I.
[12:15] » Mrs. Waltz.
>> I.
[12:17] » Under 6-0, we have no introductions or
presentations tonight. This is the uh
[12:22] we'll go into the citizens comments
section, which is uh
[12:26] time we open for our citizens to come
forth and discuss issues within the town
[12:31] that may have concern.
Uh we ask that you come to the
[12:34] microphone,
that you give your name,
[12:38] street address, and town,
and that you speak directly into the
[12:42] microphone at all times without turning
your head to look in the crowd because
[12:46] we get complaints
people can't hear what's going on.
[12:49] And you will address your comments to me
as the chair.
[12:52] Anyone here to address
citizens comments? Yes, ma'am.
[12:59] » Uh Sandy Lightner, 160 Lexington,
Fishersburg.
[13:04] I try really hard to make positive
comments when I do make comments, but
[13:09] something happened at the last um
regular town council meeting
[13:14] that I and some others noticed that was
disturbing.
[13:19] And um it involved one council member
who um was on their phone
[13:27] when citizen comments was um taking
place. There were a lot of citizen
[13:32] comments.
And uh this person was on the phone most
[13:37] of that time.
And it seemed really disrespectful to
[13:42] me.
Um we only have 3 minutes to address you
[13:47] with our concerns.
And um
[13:51] to see someone on their phone and this
wasn't just looking at the phone. This
[13:57] was
using the phone. I don't know whether
[14:00] they were texting or but they were
typing things in.
[14:04] Um
it seems to me that when
[14:08] citizens address you
it shouldn't be a problem with you not
[14:14] giving them
uh your full attention.
[14:17] And I hope um that that will happen from
now on. Thank you.
[14:23] » Thank you. Anyone else?
[14:34] » Travis Story, 114 Skater's Good.
Um you all have
[14:38] Well, first thank you for the vote on
Flock last week or last time. You know,
[14:41] my stance on Flock and I'm very
anti-surveillance.
[14:45] The drones that the police use broadcast
where and when they're being used.
[14:49] Police are very public about it. I have
no concerns there and I promise you to
[14:53] hear about it if
I thought there was any kind of problem
[14:56] with what they're doing. They're even
good about providing footage to the
[14:58] public. Um
I'm mostly here to talk about uh
[15:03] there's uh public hearing scheduled for
next meeting and there was a public
[15:07] hearing for the planning commission last
week for a development at 2040 Parkway
[15:12] Drive Southeast.
Um but no information about it is being
[15:16] made public.
The landowner is claiming by right
[15:20] development for everything except this
one thing that the CUP is asking for,
[15:24] but you don't have any by right
development if you don't have public
[15:27] plans that have been approved. Um
they're asking for something much taller
[15:33] than the
code allows, which is why they want the
[15:36] CUP.
Um
[15:38] I think prior to the public hearing
coming before this body would be very
[15:41] very helpful if the public knew what
this development was going to be.
[15:47] Um
the tower or whatever it is that they're
[15:50] going to be building, um
they're problems using like explaining
[15:55] how big things are, but it's larger than
10 Olympic swimming pools. It's It's
[15:59] bigger than any
anything around here that I could find
[16:02] to compare it to. Um
and that we don't know what that is
[16:05] going to be is a a problem, especially
with the hearing coming up. Um if there
[16:10] is a legal case for keeping something
like this private,
[16:13] something other than town negotiations
and police matters, um I'm sure people
[16:17] would would want to know. I know there
were people asking at the planning
[16:20] commission, "Hey, what is this?" and
they weren't able they weren't able to
[16:24] be given an answer at that time.
Thank you.
[16:26] » Thank you. Anyone else?
[16:30] Seeing no one, I'm going to close the
citizens' comments. We will go into
[16:33] committee report.
Uh have any committees met within since
[16:37] our last meeting, Mr. Bishop?
>> No.
[16:40] » Uh Ms. Hicks?
>> No, sir.
[16:42] » Ms. Hackett?
>> No reports.
[16:44] » Mr. Bowman?
>> No, sir.
[16:47] » Ms. Umberger?
>> No.
[16:49] » And Ms. Watts?
>> No, we meet next week.
[16:52] » Very good.
Discussion and action by mayor and
[16:55] council.
Um
[16:57] the appointment of Brad St. Clair as a
joint appointed member of the New River
[17:01] Valley Regional Emergency Communications
Regional Authority to fulfill the
[17:05] remainder of Kevin Foss's term expiring
March 31, 2027. The appointment shall be
[17:12] effective September 1, 2026. And Mr. St.
Clair is here tonight?
[17:18] He was. There you go.
Great.
[17:23] » Motion to approve.
>> Second.
[17:24] » You have a motion and a second.
Discussion?
[17:27] » Thank you for being here today.
[17:32] » All right.
Madam Clerk.
[17:34] » Mr. Bishop.
>> Uh
[17:36] » Mrs. Bowman.
>> Aye.
[17:37] » Mrs. Hicks.
>> Aye.
[17:39] » Mrs. Hackett.
>> Aye.
[17:40] » Mrs. Umberger.
>> Aye.
[17:42] » Mrs. Waltz.
>> Aye.
[17:44] » That is 6-0. The appointment of
Assistant Chief of Police Steven Swecker
[17:49] to the New River Valley ASAP Policy
Board. Appointment shall be effective
[17:54] September 22nd, 2026.
>> Motion to approve.
[17:58] » Second.
>> Motion and a second. Comments or
[18:00] questions?
Madam Clerk.
[18:04] » Mr. Bishop.
>> Uh
[18:06] » Mrs. Bowman.
>> Aye.
[18:07] » Mrs. Hicks.
>> Aye.
[18:09] » Mrs. Hackett.
>> Aye.
[18:10] » Mrs. Umberger.
>> Aye.
[18:12] » Mrs. Waltz.
>> Aye.
[18:13] » That is 6-0.
Non-exclusive franchise agreement with
[18:17] Point Broadband Fiber Holding LLC.
>> Motion to approve.
[18:23] » Second.
>> Second. Motion and a second.
[18:26] Any comments?
>> I have a question for this. This is just
[18:30] the fibered um
the cables going under the ground, but
[18:35] then they're not going to have any
antennas or anything like that. This
[18:39] company is now.
>> No, it's the wires.
[18:42] » There's some aerial wires.
>> wires is not going in the ground.
[18:46] » Oh.
>> It's both.
[18:48] » Oh, it's both. Okay. And then are they
going to use like any of those boxes
[18:54] that um where they will have all the uh
I guess the connectors and everything
[18:59] else connected. Do they connect to like
electricity or anything like that by any
[19:04] chance?
Okay. My biggest concern when we do like
[19:08] anything that is like this and stuff is
just to to have boxes that make noises
[19:14] and things like that. And so that was
why my questions. Thank you.
[19:19] » So we have a motion and a second.
Madam Clerk.
[19:23] » Mr. Bishop.
>> Aye.
[19:25] » Mrs. Bowman.
>> Aye.
[19:26] » Mrs. Hicks.
>> Aye.
[19:28] » Mrs. Hackett.
>> Aye.
[19:29] » Mrs. Umberger.
>> Aye.
[19:31] » Mrs. Waltz.
>> Aye.
[19:33] » That is 6-0. We have road closure for
the CHS homecoming parade for October
[19:38] the 7th, 2026. The closures will occur
in the staggered time frame between 3:00
[19:44] p.m. to 3:45 p.m. A temporary shutdown
for barricades and the actual street
[19:50] closure for the event is from 5:00 to
8:00 p.m. The road closures are as
[19:55] follows:
East Main Street from Park Street to
[19:58] North Franklin Street, West Main Street
from North Franklin Street to Radford
[20:02] Street, Roanoke Street from East Main
Street to First Street, Southeast
[20:09] Pepper Street Northeast from Hill Street
Northeast to I'm
[20:13] reading too quick here. To First Street
uh
[20:17] North Franklin Street from Commerce
Street Northwest to First Street
[20:21] Southeast, College Street to the west of
to West Main Street, Phlegar Street from
[20:29] First Street to
uh West Main Street, Radford Street from
[20:34] Northwest uh Radford Street Northwest
from Depot Street to West Main Street
[20:39] and College Street Northwest from
College from Radford Street to
[20:45] Sheridan's Circle Northwest.
>> Motion to approve.
[20:47] » Second.
>> Motion and a second, any comments or
[20:51] discussions?
Madam Clerk.
[20:56] » Mr. Bishop.
>> Aye.
[20:57] » Mrs. Bowman.
>> Aye.
[20:59] » Mrs. Hicks.
>> Aye.
[21:01] » Mrs. Hackett.
>> Aye.
[21:02] » Mrs. Umberger.
>> Aye.
[21:04] » Mrs. Waltz.
>> Aye.
[21:05] » That is 7-0, thank you. We have a code
amendment request with the town of
[21:09] Christiansburg applicant
to amend the Christiansburg town code
[21:13] chapter 42 section 42-397,
permitted uses. Data centers are
[21:19] currently allowed by right in the
general industrial I-2 zoning district.
[21:24] And the request is to require
conditional use permit for data centers
[21:28] in the general industrial I-2 zoning
district.
[21:32] » Motion to approve.
>> Second.
[21:33] » Motion and a second. Comments?
>> I'm really
[21:37] I'm going ahead. Is there a need for us
to update the our definition of data
[21:41] centers?
[21:44] » I don't believe so based on the feedback
we've received thus far. I'm not sure
[21:48] I'm looking at Retta from planning to
see if you have any additional
[21:51] information on the the definition
discussion.
[21:57] » Good evening.
It will be up to you.
[22:01] The state code goes into more detail
than ours does. Ours is pretty vague. Um
[22:07] I think it's maybe matching up to like
the first line of the Virginia code, so
[22:13] um
that's up to to you if and also our
[22:18] attorney if he has a recommendation.
>> I have a couple of concerns that that
[22:22] was going to be my question, so thank
you, Tonya. Um
[22:25] » Well, can we get a recommendation I
mean, did you have a recommendation?
[22:28] » I think that would be something you
could look at in the future to to give
[22:31] better clarity on on what is a data
center cuz
[22:35] as Retta said, it's pretty vague right
now.
[22:38] » But not required for us to make this
amendment. It's just where we do It's
[22:41] defined separately.
>> I'd say this is a good first step.
[22:43] » Okay, thank you. Can we um
What is the step What are the steps
[22:49] right now to change the definition into
more um
[22:53] defined inform you know, like definition
for this because I do think
[22:58] I'm very much against the data centers
right now, and I want to make sure
[23:04] that they do not come here as much as we
are able to, you know?
[23:09] But, I also don't want to buy rights.
So,
[23:12] um if we were to vote on this this um
right now,
[23:18] we can change it to now, but can What is
the process for us to be able to change
[23:23] it again within the next month? I would
really like to work on this rapidly cuz
[23:28] I don't want any chances of the data
centers coming because we have
[23:33] the incorrect definition as far as the
data centers.
[23:36] » If I might interject, the uh
guideline would be for us to
[23:41] to ask the planning commission to
research the definitions and come back
[23:46] with a recommendation as to what we're
going to do. It's not going to change
[23:52] what the definit- the definitions not
going to change the fact that we require
[23:57] now, if we pass this, we require a
conditional use permit for a data
[24:02] center, whatever the definition may be.
Is that correct?
[24:05] » correct.
>> And you have nothing in place currently.
[24:08] » Yes.
>> As a reminder.
[24:09] » Can I ask a question? Was data centers
one of the definitions that you were
[24:13] looking at changing? I know you were
going through definitions with the
[24:15] planning commission. Was this one of the
actual definitions you were looking at?
[24:19] » I don't believe that was on the list,
but it will be now.
[24:22] » It will be now. Thank you.
>> Yeah, can I can I say something too?
[24:25] Yeah, I too would like for that to be
looked at, and if it needs to be
[24:29] changed, would like to go ahead and
start that process because I started
[24:34] asking about this ordinance back in
December,
[24:37] and it's taken us this long to get this
little tiny bit done. So, I don't want
[24:43] to draw it out another 8 months. So,
if it needs to be done, I'd like to see
[24:49] it moved on quickly.
>> And if it if it is that we just want to
[24:53] match the the state code,
>> That should be pretty simple.
[24:56] » and and we would just need to um
properly advertise and have the public
[25:01] hearings because it does it is housed in
the zoning code. So.
[25:05] » Thank you.
>> My idea was for this like about almost
[25:08] two years to go as far as like making
sure that there's some things that will
[25:13] keep them away from us. But I do like
the idea of having as many definitions
[25:18] as possible. Just add them all.
>> Okay.
[25:22] » And so that'd be good.
>> Cool.
[25:23] » Whatever we do tonight
will will slow things down if not send
[25:28] it to a grinding halt.
>> Yes.
[25:31] » Thank you. Madam Clerk.
>> Mr. Bishop.
[25:35] » Uh
>> Mrs. Bowman.
[25:37] » Hi.
>> Mrs. Heggs.
[25:38] » Hi.
>> Mrs. Hackett.
[25:40] » Hi.
>> Mrs. Umberger.
[25:41] » Hi.
>> Mrs. Waltz.
[25:42] » Hi.
>> That is 6-0. Thank you. Staff reports.
[25:47] Dr. Eagle.
>> I have two things.
[25:50] » I have two items for the the council
tonight. The first is related to an
[25:55] update on the compensation study that we
talked about as a part of the budget
[25:59] process. That work is proceeding. So
I'll have more updates as the consultant
[26:04] makes progress and interviews staff
members and supervisors.
[26:09] But I wanted you to know that that work
is progressing.
[26:12] The second item is related to the
schedule and just to touch base on the
[26:15] work session for
the 16th of September. So I tentatively
[26:20] have scheduled an update for you all on
the consolidation of parks and rec and
[26:24] aquatics into one department.
And the second item is a conversation we
[26:30] need to revisit related to the ARC grant
for the farmers market and and bringing
[26:36] some closure hopefully to that that
item. So those are the two items for the
[26:41] work session coming up.
>> Thank you.
[26:43] » That's all I have.
>> Mr. Broughton.
[26:46] » No report, Mayor.
>> Any other town staff that would like to
[26:51] Council reports. Mr. Bishop.
>> No report.
[26:54] » Miss Miss Hicks.
>> Yes. Um
[26:57] I want to address the concern from the
citizen that spoke about using a phone.
[27:04] I do appreciate you coming out here and
speaking about it. Um fortunately, I get
[27:10] this iPad thing, which we all get, and
they all have a code and everything.
[27:14] I've been trying to get into that thing
for for a while now, and so I have to
[27:18] use my phone. And in my phone, there's
emails, there's all the information
[27:23] regarding what I needed for the flock
last week, and well, or 2 weeks ago. So,
[27:28] it was really important for me to find
the flock camera thing, and all my
[27:33] information that I had on my notes and
the stuff like that were actually in
[27:37] there because also my printer broke at
work. And so, I do
[27:42] um
I do um
[27:45] want to apologize if you feel like I was
looking on my phone the whole time. I
[27:50] was definitely doing town council
things. I When I come over here, I'm all
[27:54] town council. And I'm definitely I I
love the fact that I am able to, you
[28:00] know, have my phone with me all times to
be able to see that information when I
[28:05] do not have the thing, which today I had
the same issue. I'm unable to get into
[28:09] the thing cuz
somehow or another, I don't memorize the
[28:13] numbers very well. And so, to like to
log into it, so I do apologize if it
[28:18] seemed wrong that I was looking at my
phone, but I was definitely paying
[28:22] attention to what was happening last the
last time in town council. So, thank you
[28:26] for speaking out. Thanks.
>> Miss Hackett.
[28:30] » Nothing to report.
>> Miss Bowman.
[28:33] » Nothing, thank you.
>> Miss Zumberger.
[28:36] » No, sir.
>> Miss Waltz.
[28:39] » Nothing.
Can I make
[28:42] » Is there any other business to come
before council?
[28:44] » Oh, please. Um Um, I wanted to see if
there was a possibility that we can
[28:48] really look at the um that meeting for
the first week in October since we
[28:53] definitely typically don't have a
meeting the first week of the month and
[28:58] we moved it because we had the VML
conferences on the week of the 13th. Is
[29:03] there a possibility that you guys can
reconsider your vote, please, on
[29:07] changing that and just canceling that
meeting completely?
[29:10] » I think at the last meeting it was
pretty much unanimous that we would have
[29:14] the meeting or
to an extent or majority.
[29:18] » Can anybody change that?
>> I would be willing to
[29:21] I Dr. Eagle, how much stuff is on the
schedule for the 6th?
[29:32] Okay. Is that time-sensitive?
[29:37] Okay.
[29:51] Okay.
[29:57] Just a second. Wouldn't
>> Yeah, I think the problem is and I wish
[30:01] that uh Councilwoman Hicks would have
spoke up at the last meeting. I probably
[30:06] would have voted different. It's her
youngest daughter's birthday and it's
[30:11] not a night that we normally meet and I
certainly can understand that. So, I
[30:17] would be willing to try to readjust
myself because of that. If it was a
[30:22] normal meeting night, I would say, you
know, okay, but
[30:27] um I think we do try to make
considerations for for staff and others
[30:31] and you know, I think she should have
the same consideration.
[30:36] » Well, we are all spending a lot of time
away from our lives going to these
[30:41] conferences and it's a lot of work. I
mean, we're waking up at 6:00 in the
[30:45] morning, being there for a whole day.
It's not a really vacation time, as you
[30:51] can say.
And I mean, it really takes away from
[30:55] our lives and for us to be I mean, for
me to be gone even for that many days is
[31:00] um
which I understand that. So, I put those
[31:04] days away as far as that goes, but no,
it was my Ashley, my older daughters
[31:08] birthday. But, yeah.
But But, yeah, it's it just
[31:13] adds a lot more work into it, but
if there is a way to reconsider that,
[31:20] please.
>> I I have my birthday and Fred's birthday
[31:24] were on the work sessions.
Uh
[31:27] with my children, I would just have it
another day. I mean, you know, so that
[31:32] I don't know, just
>> You You choose what you want to do.
[31:36] You're staying
>> Yeah, just what what we're doing because
[31:39] I understand that you would like to have
it on that same day, but we all like we
[31:43] all have family things that happen on
the
[31:47] days that
>> I have had spent many birthdays in here,
[31:50] too, in town council.
>> It's part of the job.
[31:54] » I think graduations.
>> I think my biggest issue with it is that
[31:58] we asked to readjust really quickly. We
didn't actually get a lot of time cuz it
[32:02] came up. And so, I mean, if you already
made these plans and you know, I don't
[32:08] know exactly how they're planning on
celebrating, but if it's with multiple
[32:12] family members,
um I know Joanna has a big family and
[32:16] they travel from New Jersey and
different areas of So,
[32:22] that's my biggest
worry regarding that.
[32:25] » Well, I mean, I'm not sure
what is scheduled for that agenda.
[32:31] Uh it's certainly something that Ms.
Hicks, if you feel strongly and and I
[32:35] encourage you, you can miss that
meeting. I mean, it's not going to
[32:39] we're not going to dock your pay or
anything for that.
[32:42] But, I mean, we had talked about it and
particularly
[32:46] there is a two of the budget of Jim
amendments
[32:50] have to do with the fire station with
fire trucks that we've already approved.
[32:54] » But, those are going to be on the 22nd,
right?
[32:58] » That's the public hearing, but we don't
vote on them until 2 weeks later.
[33:03] » Typically what
>> Typically what town council has asked is
[33:06] that we have the public hearing and then
you vote at the next meeting.
[33:10] Um so, I was going to bring them back
for the October 6th meeting for you to
[33:15] vote on the approval of both amendments.
So, one of them is for the carryover of
[33:20] the Arrowhead
Arrow.
[33:22] » Arrowhead.
>> project. And the other one is for the
[33:25] fire truck purchases, and the fire
trucks are estimated to come in right
[33:29] around the end of September. So, the
sooner we can approve those, then we can
[33:34] get those town paid. They originally
told us the end of October, so I wasn't
[33:37] stressed about it, and then they're
like, "Nope, just kidding, they're going
[33:39] to be in sooner."
So.
[33:42] » Which he um
as far as that one, I know we're not
[33:45] talking about that one, but as far as
like even the fire trucks, um
[33:51] they were um there was one in the on the
previous budget from my understanding
[33:57] for years now, right? And then this
second one, where from where do we get
[34:01] two fire trucks and they're from?
Because I know there was like
[34:06] money for the one, and then there was
like $600,000 put on the side, right?
[34:11] » saved up, I think. From what I could
tell looking back, it looked like around
[34:15] 2021
>> One.
[34:17] » One is when you guys started putting
apart side money. I don't know if Chief
[34:23] had
>> But, for the two fire trucks or one?
[34:25] » originally was done for one, maybe, but
I know that there's enough saved for two
[34:29] cuz they They're cost about 1.
5, 1.4 something million.
[34:36] And so there is enough for two there now
in the reserves.
[34:39] » Cuz on the budget itself, I don't think
it that was the wording for.
[34:44] » It actually it was for the full amount.
It was for both of them. Part of it's
[34:47] coming from a separate fund.
>> Okay.
[34:49] » Okay.
>> So,
[34:51] I mean,
>> Okay.
[34:54] » At this point, I would say the meeting
is still on.
[34:56] » it.
>> So, we'll go from here. Anything else?
[35:02] I'm going to have to go get a hamburger
or something. My wife's going to expect
[35:05] me home in a minute. We're adjourned.
[35:14] » Joe.
This is my office.