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I would like to call to order the meeting for

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September 1st. Madam Clerk, if you can please call the

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roll. Present. Deputy Mayor Fernandez. Here. Council member in Zunza.

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Council member Preciato. And Mayor McCann. Present. I'm going to

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ask if the member Preciato would lead us in the

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Pledge of Allegiance. Absolutely. Please stand if you're able to.

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Ready begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America. And to the Republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God, in the visible, with

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lifting justice for all. Move on to special

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orders. And we have a special order here to go

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ahead and have Lisa Brannon sworn in for the oath

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of office for the cultural arts. And there she is.

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Come on up. And in full disclosure. I was in

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music machine. And she is somebody who was there also.

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And just amazing what she has done over the years

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and supporting the Benita Vista High School performing arts. But

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Madam Clerkhall handed over to you. Thank you. If you'll

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please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that

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you will support and defend the Constitution of the United

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States and the Constitution of the state of California against

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all enemies foreign and domestic that you will bear true

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faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States

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and the Constitution of the state of California that you

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take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose

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of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge

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the duties upon which you are about to enter? I

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do. Congratulations. Thank you. Obviously, signing up.

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Thank you, Lisa, and congratulations. Thank you. Now we'll move

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on. Now we're going to go ahead and move on

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to public comments. Madam Clerk, if you can please call

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the first, you know what actually what we're going to

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do is we're going to make the motion. I'm going

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to make a motion to approve the consent calendar. So

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move do I have a second? Second. Madam Clerk, do

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we have any speakers for the consent items. Yes, we

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do have two speakers on the consent calendar. We'll proceed

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with calling them. The first in - person speaker is

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John Acosta. Followed by Robert, who is remote. I don't

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have three point three. Your going to your

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wheel receive money from the alcohol ever said company or

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whoever, you know, what you all need to do. Minimize

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or reduce their places with the so - called tobacco

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or on downtown. There's more alcohol location where people could

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buy alcohol, then grocery stores. I mean, they have healthy

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storage, you know, because alcohol is everywhere. And that's very

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also in the homeless that drinking a lacaho. One of

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the things I'm going to be talking to you and

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you probably saw the posterior saying the prior day send,

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you know, regarding the disabled homeless wheelchairs later on the

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floor. And my question to you, who's going to have

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you went out into your district to check on the

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homeless, whatever it was so hot. You could see the

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pictures. It's hot. Mr. Costantica down on the consent agenda.

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Mr. Off topic, Mr. Costa. Okay, so therefore you should

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use some of its money to make sure you help

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this save homeless, dense of homeless. Bring home, familiarity. That's

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shame on you because you don't think of your district.

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And whenever I'm in J Street, is that your district,

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Jose? That is saving a wheelchair. Did you go and

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check on the DIYs or the other one is on

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the district three. Homeless disabled layer on the floor.

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Our next speaker is Robert, who is calling remotely. Robert,

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you have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment. Thank

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you, Citi Clark. I appreciate it. Um, and, you know,

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thank you city council mayor staff. I appreciate all your

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guys'time. You know, it's, it's important that we come to

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these meetings to handle the city's business. Uh, on tonight's

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agenda. I, I pulled, you know, so I could speak

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on it. Even though I only get my three minutes,

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whatever anyways, um, 5. 2, uh, wastewater and the Sarah,

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uh, agreement. And, you know, it's, it's really like we

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have sweet water authority and outside water district. And they're

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like, their own entities and they, they represent the people.

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We have elected positions, but you know what? We don't

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have is we don't have like the same for the

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wastewater. And the city does the service or quote unquote

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does the service collects the fees charges us, whatever it

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is. Right. And I think there could be more highlighted

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transparency in that idea of, uh, moving into this new

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agreement with Sarah. And if I understood correctly, Jose correct

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me if I'm wrong, but, uh, having more voting power

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to these things. We're like the second highest contributor in

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the wastewater district of, you know, San Diego County. And

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we need to be proactive into these involvements that we

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have in, in infrastructure. And so my main reminder right

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now is to just remind you of how important that

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is. And that as a city being, it's one of

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the services that we pay for through the city. It

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should be more transparent. There should be more accountability. There

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should be more involvement, uh, to keep us ahead of

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the curve, uh, just like the stormwater drains and making

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sure all that is good to go, uh, wastewater is,

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uh, vital necessity. Um, you know, it's just an unfavorable

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topic. Right. And so sometimes we're going to need people

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to have courage to come and talk about things that

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they find, uh, they're interested in, am I a super

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knowledgeable person on wastewater? No, but I, I found out

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where the, the points of discharge are at from the

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South County, like right near the border, uh, point Loma,

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uh, you know, as far as I know, I didn't

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know about the, the one by the border too much,

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but when I heard about the one in point, Loma's

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left. Thank you. I appreciate the reminder. Um, uh, when

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I found out about the one at point Loma, started

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to kind of look into it more, led me to

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believe that all of, you know, the whole counties involved,

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but like as the second largest contributor, we need to

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be ahead of the game. So. Thank you for my

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time. Thank you. That concludes the public speakers on the

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consent calendar. Thank you very much. Let's go ahead,

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Madam Clerk, if you could please read the heading for

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the consent calendar. Item 5. 1 is approval of a

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motion to read only the title and waive the reading

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of the text of all resolutions and ordinances at this

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meeting. Idem 5. 2 is resolution of the city council

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of the city of Chula Vista approving the revised second

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amended and restated wastewater disposal agreement directing the Metro JPA

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representative to support the same at Metroed JPA meetings and

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authorizing mayor to execute same. And item 5. 3 is

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resolution of the city council of the city of Tulevista

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accepting grant funds from the Department of Alcoholic Beverage control

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for the alcohol policing partnership program for FISFOT required. Please

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vote. The consent calendar is approved

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unanimously. We will now move on to public comments. Madam

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Clerk, if you can please call the first speaker. Thank

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you. The first in - person speaker is John Acosta

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followed by Michael Benoza followed by David Garcia Ozua. First

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of all, remember in students, I'd like to me. I

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don't trust him. I don't say believe anything. It says.

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And remember if you play with pigs, you're going to

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become one of them or get dirty. Or must have

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four here when I can see a clone is called

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me constantly, cancelling calling for me to answer my covetous.

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He wanted to talk to me. When I, you know,

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he finally talked to me. He said, screaming hollering. And

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now he's having a fundraiser kickoff for his crony. For

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his corny. So, you know, I know that you're giving

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a lot of money away and you bought a new

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car and you went to Paris and now you're giving

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us a dollar to a person that you try to

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stuff. I'm getting a job in City Hall. Where are

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you getting all these money, Vincenzo? Are you calling, what's

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your name? Uh, let's see. What's the name? Uh, Consultor

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Marco Polo, Cortez again asking him for money. You know,

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or did you ever ask him for money? Where are

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you getting on this money for me? I mean, it's

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going to, what you need to do focusing on the

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situation and stop lying, started with suddenly to people. You

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like to me. You lied to me. I don't trust

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you. So therefore, you know, one of the things that

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if you're going to go to this kickoff fundraiser for

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your crony, you know, you might want to see an

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attorney make sure that he doesn't win a shirt like

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a logo. Like he did for Paloma. He doesn't represent

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you lavista. So therefore, you know, when that t -

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shirt for campaigning is unethical in our world. So therefore

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you need to tell him. There has to be something

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to stop him. Yeah. Something to stop him. One other

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thing like I say, you know, Michael, you know, you

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don't trust you. I just don't trust you. And you

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know, you lied to me. You say that you were

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in part of your military and family, you're not. You

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might want to ask the mayor from Imperial Beach, how

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does it feel. You know, because he knows that you

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lie, you claim to be a minister, military family. He

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is a military family and you're not. I might have

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time. I'm honored him not. I was talking to him

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talking about you racist situation where he goes for you

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to give fire for my other day, you know, so

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you might have, I might not, you know, you might

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want to ask it. Confirm. You know, like I say,

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you know, all these lines, uh, line of this campaign

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for a kickoff, for your, for your crony. Are you

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buying, by the way, how much does it cause of

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a politician? How much does a cost for council member?

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As soon as that can you tell me. The next

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speaker is Michael Benoza followed by David Garcia Ozua followed

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by Angelica Martinez.

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Good afternoon. Honorable mayor, members of the city council and

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the public. My name is Michael Benoza. My name is

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Selena Kim. We both attend Olympian high school and we

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are both on the district white committee for UNICEF in

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the CNHQ in District of Key Club International. If you

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don't know what KOS is, it's an organization that helps

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high schoolers learn leadership skills to a service and how

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to be part of their local communities. It is an

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amazing organization for all high schoolers and adults to be

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able to give back to their communities through service and

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to help people in our community's feel more connected with

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one another. Our units have committed in QAN specifically focuses

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on supporting communities using initiative from UNICEF. We have this

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evidence by our district - wide passion project where high

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school groups across California choose their own topics and projects

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to combat issues from protecting children's rights to conserving the

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environment. Our next big initiative that we are focusing on

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is our voices for Zambia project where we want to

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create an equal access to education for children's in Zambia.

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Now Zambia is a far away country, but that doesn't

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mean we shouldn't try and help. Every child, everywhere deserves

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to serve the rights to equal education, that is of

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quality. Local A4 such as once they can be made

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right here in Chula Visa, all contribute to global change

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for the better. This can be done with record 30

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fundraisers. That is hosted by UNICEF or by spreading awareness

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like here, right in our local governments. This initiative is

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extremely important to us because the fundraising and addressing for

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these issues from a small local community here can lead

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to a collective effort of multiple small communities everywhere, all

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trying to help the children in Zambia who are no

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less fortunate situation. We also wanted to do this initiative

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because San Diego has the largest refugee populations out of

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all of California's counties. Out of this refugee makeup, the

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large, one of the largest is the Zambia demographic. So

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when we advocate for these children in Zambia, it is

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also for the Zinibyan children here in Chalavista, San Diego.

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Thank you so much for your time and attention for

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our initiative, the voices of Zambia under CNH K -

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Wenske Club International. Thank you very much. Give them a

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round of applause. The next speaker is David Garcia Ozua,

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followed by Angelica Martinez, followed by Joseph Razo.

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David Garcia. Okay, we'll come back to him. Um, Angelica

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Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Transparency, accountability, availability. Those

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are not campaign slogans. They are responsibilities at every elected

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official owes to the people they represent. Tonight I'm speaking

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about representation and district too. I have repeatedly raised concerns

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about crime in my district. I have provided photographs spoken

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with residents and business owners and asked what concrete action

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is being taken. Yet I could continue to hear silence

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from the person elected to represent us. During the August

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5th, 2026, police department presentation. This council heard the crime

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data. The district two representative has said that he believes

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in data. Well, that evening, he heard the data, we

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all heard it. So my question is simple. What has

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been done since then? I agree that Cholevista as a

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whole is a safe city. I'm proud of that. But

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calling the entire city safe. Does not mean we should

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overlook the continuing crime problems affecting district two. Yes, I

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am biased because I live in district too. My family

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lives there. My neighbors live there. Our businesses are all

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there. We deserve the same level of safety attention and

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representation as every other part of the chulavista. Residents do

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not need another flyer, Jose, telling us that you are

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delivering results. We need to be shown those results. What

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specific actions have you taken? What measurable improvements have occurred.

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What has been done to support the businesses and residents

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who continue raising concerns. And where is a consistent visible

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leadership. Accountability means being present when the questions are uncomfortable.

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Transparency means showing the public the evidence. Leadership means taking

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action, not becoming emotional, we constituents demand answers. Tears are

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not results. Campaign flyers are not results. Results are measurable.

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Visible and felt by the people you represent. District to

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his waiting. So once again I'm asking where are the

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results. I have nothing further to say thank you. Our

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next in - person speaker is Joseph Razel followed by

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our remote callers David Watley and Robert. Oh. Gosh, oh

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gosh. Oh gosh. Shooting from the hip here. Uh, hell,

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this won't take three minutes. Main reason for coming is

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an apology. I find myself cornered trying to help district

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two. And I'm the one that's responsible for all those

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impeachments you Prisciato banners. You see going all over the

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place. Cause he's killing us. And, uh, downtown Chillis to

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every, I've always dreamt of turning into like a little

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Italy. And every improvement we try to do, he fights

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us. I don't know why, what he's got against business,

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got to give, I don't know whether one of those

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are. I can't get into it. But we're supposed to,

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we ordered the parkless taken out and, uh. I'm just

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discouraged. So I want to apologize for having to put

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those banners up all over the place. But we got

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nothing, but that's our last recourse. We have to get

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better representation. We got to move district two head. And

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I'm trying to prove downtown Chula Vista and it's driving

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us nuts that everything we do, everything we try to

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fix up. He fights us every step of the way.

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So again, I apologize. God bless you guys. We will

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now continue with our remote callers. Our first remote caller

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is David Watley followed by Robert followed by Madison Rapp.

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David, you have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment.

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Hi, good evening, City of Chula Vista. My name is

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David Watley. Uh, can you guys hear me okay. Yes.

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Yes. Okay. Great. Okay. Thanks. So, uh, first of all,

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uh, I just want to say it's an honor to

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be able to participate in, um, your, uh, city council

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meeting this evening. I've actually never participated in a chulabista

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city council meeting, uh, full disclosure. I don't think I've

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ever been to Chulivista. But I want to go. I've

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been looking at your website and it looks like it's

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a fun place. So anyhow. I'm calling this evening to

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ask for your support with regard to my advocacy. Now

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I sent, um, this has to do with a lotter

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that I wrote to her name is Dr. Claudia Scheinbaum

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Pardo. I sent her a letter, she's this incredible scientist.

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Um, that actually she's an engine energy engineering scientist that's

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completed work for her thesis at the U. S. Department

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of Energy's Berkeley Lab up in the San Francisco Bay

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area. And so I don't know, like a couple of

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years ago, like she ran for president of Mexico and

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she won. And so I she's just incredible scientists that's

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now she's the president of Mexico. But she also happens

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to be, um, a member of the San Diego chamber

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of commerce. Not sure if there's, I'm sure there's folks

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that live in two low vista given the proximity. That

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are also members of that chamber. But anyhow, I wrote

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her letter in her capacity as a, you know, before

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she was sworn into office as president. And I sent

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it to her at the San Diego Chamber of Commerce.

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And I basically said, you know, congratulations on winning the

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presidency of Mexico. And I'd love to have your support

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with regard to my advocacy. And I talked to her

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about both foreign policy issues and domestic policy issues. Now

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as it relates to domestic policy, one thing that I

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mentioned in my letter, and I did send a letter

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to the mayor and the city council and the city

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clerk, a copy of the letter, um, so you guys

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should have that. Hopefully you can, you were able to

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open it. Okay. With a PDF document. As it relates

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to Chula Vista, I think that if you read the

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letter, I mentioned improving U. S.- Mexico, like public education

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and both the United States and Mexico. You have 30

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seconds. And so I would love to be able. Oh,

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perfect. I would love to be able to receive the

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support of Chula Vista, the city of Chula Vista with

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regard to that part of my letter. Um, you know,

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public education in both Mexico and the United States, you

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know, I think, well, I just, well, actually I want

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to give a great, an acknowledgement to that high school

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group from UNICEF sounds like high school kids and jewel

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of history doing wonderful work. Um, so anyhow, would love

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to have your support with regard to my advocacy as

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it relates to public education in both Mexico and the

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United States. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you. Our

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next remote caller is Robert followed by Madison Rapp. Robert,

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you have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment. I

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have been unmuted. Thank you. Um. I have been unleashed.

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But your ears here, you know, it's interesting. I go

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to all these meetings, uh, learn a lot. And then

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I also am told many, many different versions of the

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truth. And I try to decipher and discern. And get

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down to what's actually true. And so, uh, last year

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an item was brought up to the city council to

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look into, uh, European heritage events, uh, stuff to celebrate

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and bring in more communities. And I look forward to

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hearing that item when it does come back eventually, hopefully.

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Um, but at the recent human relations commission meeting, uh,

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they brought up an item that wasn't a part of

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your list. You know how you directed them to focus

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on stuff that's only on the list. And you know,

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the chair brought it up and she was the one

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who advocated when I was bringing up my, you know,

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community or other communities, not just mine, uh, to add

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more, uh, things to recognize or, you know, not even

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full events, just, just recognition. Uh, they said, no, we

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can't do anymore. We already have too many subcommittees. We'll

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get to sub committees here in a second. And, uh,

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you know, that was the reason why she didn't support

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it was because she thought they did too much already.

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And at a recent meeting this last one, um, it

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seemed like they were trying to hide public records. I'm

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just going to be honest right there. It seemed like

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they were trying to. You know, certain phrasings of certain

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things. And ultimately they decided to disclose it and be

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transparent. Right. But at the same time, this item was

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brought that wasn't on the list. And every, every staff

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seems to seem, you know, Hey, it's an A -

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okay. We can have things. So, you know, I just

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wonder, does everybody on that board get to add things

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then. Or just the chair who, who's adding things. You

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know. And I'll just say to the public, so that

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way the other commissioners can know whether they can just

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add their own events and bring another community. You have

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30 seconds left. Or if maybe like the last time

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that was brought up is voted down because it was

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a unite against hate week. Funded by, or, you know,

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in sponsorship with SPLC and all these other partners. And

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then they're accused of the one funding hate groups. So,

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you know, as the city, we looked out for the

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city and said, maybe we shouldn't tie ourselves to people

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who are involved in the scandals. You know, maybe you

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should sew some gratitude to the HRC for doing the

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right thing. Right. I doubt you guys even know what's

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going on. Your time has concluded. But am I muted.

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Thank you, Robert. The final caller is Madison Rapp. Madison,

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you have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment. Hi,

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thank you. Good evening. So I wanted to bring to

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your attention something that California leaders are moving forward with,

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which is assembly bill 762, which would prohibit the manufacturer

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distribution and sale of disposable battery embedded electronic cigarettes in

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California. Disposable vapes have created a serious problem at the

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intersection of youth addiction and environmental damage. These products are

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designed to be used briefly and thrown away. Yet they

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contain lithium batteries and potentially toxic materials. They are increasingly

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littering our streets, parks, and beaches while also creating fire

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risks when damage or crushed in trash and recycling facilities.

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The scale of this problem is fattering. There are estimates

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that approximately 500, 000 disposable vapes are thrown away every

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day in the United States. And we also can't separate

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this environmental problem from the youth health issue. Vaping remains

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the most prevalent tobacco product among California high school students.

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These devices deliver highly addictive nicotine. And young people are

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being exposed to products. Whose long - term health consequences

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are still not fully known. As a mother, I find

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it especially concerning that we have allowed an entire category

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of addictive products to become both easily discarded. And so

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common in the environments where our children live play and

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learn. AB 762 recognizes that manufacturers should not be able

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to create products with embedded batteries, toxic waste, and fire

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hazards, and simply leave communities and taxpayers to deal with

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the consequences. I hope that California and two livista continue

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to prioritize policies that protect young people, reduce nicotine addiction

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and hold industries accountable for the environmental costs of their

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products. Thank you. Thank you. We have no more public

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comments. Thank you very much. Uh, now we will go

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ahead and we will move to action items. The first

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action item we're going to take is 7, 2, which

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is the preliminary approval of the final assessment engineering report

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for the downtown Chula Vista community benefit district. And we

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have Mr. Graham, who's going to give the presentation. Welcome.

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I want to be being K's fine.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor and members of the

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city council. Tonight, I will be presenting the first step

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in the formation of an assessment district to replace the

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existing Chulivista property - based improvement district. I'm joined by

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Lute V Karuf, partner at BBK, who is our outside

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council on this item. This formation process is governed by

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the state California state law and the city's community benefit

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district ordinance. The action before you is to adopt a

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resolution preliminarily approving the final assessment engineers report, approving a

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resolution of intent to establish the downtown Chilevista community benefit

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district and setting a public hearing related to the establishment

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for November 10th. It also authorizes the city manager to

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vote in favor of establishing the district as the city

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has done in each of the three prior district formations.

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The existing downtown district along Third Avenue is an assessment

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of property owners who receive a special benefit from the

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use of those assessment funds. State law outlines the difference

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between special and general benefit and limits the use of

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assessment funds to activities that are above and beyond those

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provided by the city. The downtown property - based improvement

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district has been in existence since 2001 and has been

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renewed twice since then. It expires on December 31st, 2026.

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The formation of property owner assessment districts is primarily governed

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by state law. The role of the city is limited

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in scope and is intended to be a tool that

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allows her property owners to exercise their self - determination

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to ban together and assess themselves to create a critical

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mass and a geographic area that benefits those property owners.

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The first step is where the property owners to identify

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the properties to be assessed in an engineer's report, which

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the city has received. The formula for that assessment, the

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general outline of the services that will be provided and

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circulating the petition to the affected property owners is a

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part of the first steps of this. And a part

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of the actions that are occurring tonight. You'll see the

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green line, uh, underlines the stage in which we're at

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right now, which is essentially the petition and management plan.

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And based upon your actions tonight, the approvals that would

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move forward with a resolution of intent, the setting of

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a public hearing that would lead to ultimately the sending

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of ballots and the county of those ballots at a

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future public hearing. I would like to give an opportunity

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for our outside counsel from BBK to provide any additional

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information regarding the action before you tonight at this moment.

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Sure. Thank you, David, and good evening, Mayor, members of

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the city council. Um, just to brief add - on,

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that was a great description of the process. Um, in

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terms of the scope of what the city council's role

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is in this process, again, this is very much a

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business and property owner - driven process. The district is

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really formed for the benefit of the businesses and the

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00:37:22,991 --> 00:37:25,911
properties that are within the boundaries of this district. So

473
00:37:25,972 --> 00:37:29,231
the role of the city council tonight, uh, with respect

474
00:37:29,231 --> 00:37:31,391
to adopting the resolution of intention, should you wish to

475
00:37:31,391 --> 00:37:34,431
do so is to essentially outline the scope of the

476
00:37:34,471 --> 00:37:38,191
services and the boundaries of the proposed district and to

477
00:37:38,191 --> 00:37:40,991
call a public hearing. As David mentioned, the next step

478
00:37:41,031 --> 00:37:43,951
would be balloting and noticing and validating the property owners

479
00:37:43,991 --> 00:37:47,391
that are impacted. And then finally a public hearing. At

480
00:37:47,431 --> 00:37:49,871
the time of the public hearing, um, assuming there is

481
00:37:49,871 --> 00:37:52,431
no majority protest, you will have an opportunity to make

482
00:37:52,532 --> 00:37:56,591
certain alterations to the proposals within the plan. Uh, this

483
00:37:56,612 --> 00:38:01,631
could be with respect to reducing the assessment to limiting,

484
00:38:01,631 --> 00:38:03,471
uh, the properties that are going to be subject to

485
00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:06,191
the assessment as well as to making certain changes to

486
00:38:06,231 --> 00:38:10,591
the services to be provided or potentially the duration of

487
00:38:10,631 --> 00:38:12,790
the assessment. Uh, one other thing to keep in mind

488
00:38:12,891 --> 00:38:16,790
is that the city council also has an opportunity annually

489
00:38:16,971 --> 00:38:22,950
should this district before the community benefit district for that

490
00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:25,990
year. So each year the community benefit district will provide

491
00:38:26,331 --> 00:38:29,590
the city council with an annual plan and report as

492
00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:31,330
to what it intends to do for that year, the

493
00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:33,190
budget and so forth. And you will have other opportunities

494
00:38:33,451 --> 00:38:37,030
at that time, uh, to weigh in. However, you know,

495
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:38,710
the point of bringing all that information to you is

496
00:38:38,731 --> 00:38:41,750
just to talk about the scope of the city council's

497
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:43,590
role, which is a bit limited in these sorts of

498
00:38:43,691 --> 00:38:50,105
formations. Thank you very much. Assessment districts like the one

499
00:38:50,145 --> 00:38:52,745
in Chulivista can be a bit confusing. So here's some

500
00:38:52,785 --> 00:38:56,185
information that should provide some clarity regarding the role of

501
00:38:56,185 --> 00:38:59,285
the city and the structure of the district. State law

502
00:38:59,325 --> 00:39:02,565
allows for property owners to collectively identify a specific geography

503
00:39:02,586 --> 00:39:05,205
that includes parcels that we're receive of special benefit from

504
00:39:05,306 --> 00:39:08,929
investment. And the activities of the district. The role of

505
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:11,569
the city primarily centers around ensuring that there is a

506
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:15,249
transparent process in which the affected property owners have the

507
00:39:15,249 --> 00:39:18,689
chance to vote on the formation of the district, waited

508
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,277
by the amount of assessment they will pay. You can

509
00:39:21,277 --> 00:39:24,557
see here in this slide that the city has a

510
00:39:24,578 --> 00:39:27,197
role in the formation of the district that would be

511
00:39:27,298 --> 00:39:31,437
consistent with California property - based improvement district law and

512
00:39:31,437 --> 00:39:35,940
our local community benefit district ordinance. From that particular point,

513
00:39:35,961 --> 00:39:39,380
really the operation and management of the district and the

514
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,340
utilization of the funds consistent with the management district plan

515
00:39:43,241 --> 00:39:45,620
is provided to the owners association, which in this case

516
00:39:45,801 --> 00:39:49,140
has traditionally been the third avenue association, the greater third

517
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:54,260
avenue association, otherwise known as the downtown Chilevista Association. Decisions

518
00:39:54,361 --> 00:39:57,700
related implementing the plan, whether they have internal staff or

519
00:39:57,801 --> 00:40:05,620
they hire external, um, entity to contract with. Of that

520
00:40:05,881 --> 00:40:11,446
owner's association and decisions therein. Districts are run by owners

521
00:40:11,467 --> 00:40:15,206
associations, which is usually a nonprofit that either then hire

522
00:40:15,206 --> 00:40:17,206
staff or contracts with a firm to provide those services

523
00:40:17,307 --> 00:40:21,126
on behalf of the district. The district plays the city

524
00:40:21,147 --> 00:40:24,246
plays a role in the establishment of the district at

525
00:40:24,286 --> 00:40:28,646
an oversight role as you heard Mr. Karoof mentioned related

526
00:40:28,646 --> 00:40:31,206
to those annual reports of which we had one last

527
00:40:31,246 --> 00:40:34,566
week. But as far as the day - to -

528
00:40:34,566 --> 00:40:38,646
day management that primarily lives with the owners association, that

529
00:40:39,067 --> 00:40:42,246
is selected and the staff and or contracted entity that

530
00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:44,806
they work with. I will note that there have been

531
00:40:44,846 --> 00:40:48,806
some questions raised about the existing district, including at the

532
00:40:48,827 --> 00:40:52,486
last city council meeting, regarding management or some questions related

533
00:40:52,526 --> 00:40:56,326
to the operations. You know, questions may also be raised

534
00:40:56,347 --> 00:40:59,126
here tonight, but the operations of the existing district are

535
00:40:59,166 --> 00:41:02,406
not the subject of your decision. You have been actively

536
00:41:03,547 --> 00:41:06,966
engaging with individuals who have raised these concerns since then.

537
00:41:06,966 --> 00:41:09,046
And we plan to continue that engagement and can provide

538
00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:12,519
a response to the city council in the future. Tonight

539
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:15,479
is focused on whether the requirements have been met to

540
00:41:15,479 --> 00:41:17,959
take the next steps in forming a new district to

541
00:41:17,980 --> 00:41:21,492
replace the existing district. So let's look at the district

542
00:41:21,593 --> 00:41:25,287
formation. Property owner is not businesses are the ones assessed

543
00:41:25,327 --> 00:41:29,158
by the district. Petitions from property owners with a weighted

544
00:41:29,198 --> 00:41:31,798
assessment totally more than 30 percent must be submitted to

545
00:41:31,838 --> 00:41:34,554
the city. Our role is to receive and confirm the

546
00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:37,908
petitions exceed the threshold. Then call a public hearing, which

547
00:41:37,908 --> 00:41:41,668
is the action tonight. Approve a resolution of intent and

548
00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:44,948
sun ballots to the affected property owners. These are the

549
00:41:44,969 --> 00:41:48,783
actions that you were deciding on. What you do, uh,

550
00:41:48,824 --> 00:41:51,043
what you were doing is giving the property owners the

551
00:41:51,043 --> 00:41:54,086
self - determination. To choose whether to form the district

552
00:41:54,267 --> 00:41:57,766
as outlined in the engineer's report for the activities that

553
00:41:57,787 --> 00:42:01,803
are generally consistent with those we see today. The city's

554
00:42:01,803 --> 00:42:04,203
role is not to make management decisions related to the

555
00:42:04,304 --> 00:42:07,963
administration of the district. It is to be frankly the

556
00:42:08,304 --> 00:42:10,603
one to set the framework up for the collection of

557
00:42:10,643 --> 00:42:15,516
those funds and the administration of those funds. Specific to

558
00:42:16,097 --> 00:42:19,676
the downtown Chulivista area, the renewal effort started with the

559
00:42:19,777 --> 00:42:23,116
existing property owners approving a renewal plan in January of

560
00:42:23,137 --> 00:42:26,488
this year. That resulted in a petition being sent to

561
00:42:26,528 --> 00:42:33,189
all affected property owners between May through August. A engineers

562
00:42:33,229 --> 00:42:39,349
report, a summary, um, of those petitions, the petitions themselves,

563
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:42,309
as well as the certification that the petitions were sent

564
00:42:42,349 --> 00:42:46,869
to all affected property owners with the boundaries specifying location,

565
00:42:46,869 --> 00:42:50,789
the management district plan outline and where that is posted,

566
00:42:50,789 --> 00:42:54,869
which is at the downtown Chilevista Association website. We're all

567
00:42:54,869 --> 00:42:57,749
included with petitions that we're circulated meeting the requirements of

568
00:42:57,930 --> 00:43:01,371
state law. The petitions that we have received and that

569
00:43:01,411 --> 00:43:04,731
have been validated, uh, will get into in just a

570
00:43:04,731 --> 00:43:08,171
minute, but currently the percentage exceeds those to move forward

571
00:43:08,192 --> 00:43:12,624
with the actions tonight. So looking specifically at the petition

572
00:43:12,645 --> 00:43:17,824
results, uh, they totally approval by property owners of 34.

573
00:43:18,085 --> 00:43:22,364
1 percent of the weighted assessed property owners, both the

574
00:43:22,405 --> 00:43:25,904
city clerk's office and the economic development department have received

575
00:43:25,944 --> 00:43:29,664
these petitions, have validated the percentage related to them that

576
00:43:29,664 --> 00:43:32,144
they exceed the threshold. And I'd like to thank the

577
00:43:32,165 --> 00:43:35,664
city clerk and her staff for her support. When we

578
00:43:35,704 --> 00:43:38,944
look at, um, the threshold that does exceed that 30

579
00:43:38,944 --> 00:43:43,104
percent also include several public agencies like the city, such

580
00:43:43,125 --> 00:43:46,224
as the county of San Diego and Sweetwater Authority who

581
00:43:46,264 --> 00:43:50,767
have voted in favor of the district. Now looking back

582
00:43:50,807 --> 00:43:53,967
at history, the city has approved the district formation in

583
00:43:54,007 --> 00:44:00,287
both 2001, 2006 and 2016. And our properties represent 17.

584
00:44:03,108 --> 00:44:06,367
An action tonight to move forward with balladine would mean

585
00:44:06,367 --> 00:44:11,087
that effectively 51. 6 percent of the property owners support

586
00:44:11,508 --> 00:44:16,938
the formation of this district. Looking at the comparisons between

587
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:21,658
the existing district and the proposed future district, uh, there

588
00:44:21,658 --> 00:44:25,978
are 253 parcels that are included in the proposed district

589
00:44:25,999 --> 00:44:31,535
as opposed to 251. The future district is essentially mirrors

590
00:44:31,796 --> 00:44:34,735
that geographic boundaries of the existing district with a couple

591
00:44:34,735 --> 00:44:37,775
of minor revisions, which I will get to in a

592
00:44:37,775 --> 00:44:41,210
minute. It includes completing a mid - block extension of

593
00:44:41,311 --> 00:44:47,463
properties along H Street to 4th Avenue from 3rd. The

594
00:44:47,503 --> 00:44:51,383
formula for the calculation of the assessment used to include

595
00:44:51,724 --> 00:44:54,903
street frontage and land area and the proposed assessment also

596
00:44:54,943 --> 00:44:59,063
includes that. But given the densification of downtown, the actual

597
00:44:59,164 --> 00:45:01,783
building square footage is an important thing to calculate with

598
00:45:01,783 --> 00:45:06,823
the actual impact is of those potential buildings and businesses.

599
00:45:06,823 --> 00:45:10,286
And so building square footage has also been included. This

600
00:45:10,326 --> 00:45:12,206
really is a fairness issue when you think about a

601
00:45:12,227 --> 00:45:14,526
one - story building and its impacts and how it

602
00:45:14,526 --> 00:45:17,726
should be assessed versus say a five or six story

603
00:45:17,766 --> 00:45:21,486
building with much greater square footage. The new formula allows

604
00:45:21,587 --> 00:45:25,246
for a fair assessment of the property spaced upon their

605
00:45:25,286 --> 00:45:29,394
actual physical characteristics. And looking at the revenue that would

606
00:45:29,394 --> 00:45:32,994
be generated, um, given the district its boundaries and the

607
00:45:33,015 --> 00:45:38,834
formula, uh, approximately 200, 000 dollars are estimated to come

608
00:45:38,834 --> 00:45:43,782
from the new assessment revenue. The services that currently exist

609
00:45:44,283 --> 00:45:48,022
in downtown, including civil sidewalks, clean and safe programs, district

610
00:45:48,062 --> 00:45:51,622
identity, place making and special events. Would also continue under

611
00:45:51,883 --> 00:45:55,542
the new district with the potential expansion and enhancement of

612
00:45:55,582 --> 00:45:59,893
services given the revenues that would be generated. So let's

613
00:45:59,994 --> 00:46:03,893
look specifically at the map on the proposed district so

614
00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:06,853
that we can identify very clearly which properties will be

615
00:46:06,874 --> 00:46:11,246
impacted. As I said, it roughly mirrors the existing district.

616
00:46:11,246 --> 00:46:13,406
You'll see on this slide that in the north, there

617
00:46:13,406 --> 00:46:16,606
are three additional parcels that are contiguous and receive special

618
00:46:16,627 --> 00:46:20,846
benefit from the proposed district. And so they've been included.

619
00:46:20,886 --> 00:46:24,686
You'll see some black lines in there as well. Single

620
00:46:24,726 --> 00:46:28,926
family residences are not a part of a district formation.

621
00:46:28,926 --> 00:46:30,686
They're not allowed to be a part of a district

622
00:46:30,707 --> 00:46:34,446
formation and assessment. And so those black parcels are parcels

623
00:46:34,486 --> 00:46:38,488
that are currently being used as single family residences. Additionally,

624
00:46:38,509 --> 00:46:42,688
you'll see the red section about the middle, south of

625
00:46:42,688 --> 00:46:46,008
G Street. Those are also single family residences. So those

626
00:46:46,029 --> 00:46:47,848
have been taken out of the district and are not

627
00:46:47,848 --> 00:46:52,088
included. And then finally along H3 between third and fourth

628
00:46:52,088 --> 00:46:56,008
Avenue, you'll see that the district boundaries went up to

629
00:46:56,589 --> 00:47:01,268
a particular halfway through that third to fourth Avenue. And

630
00:47:01,268 --> 00:47:04,808
so these inclusion, these parcels on the north and south

631
00:47:04,848 --> 00:47:09,448
side of H Street would complete the contiguity all the

632
00:47:09,448 --> 00:47:12,408
way to Fourth Avenue. And it includes some key properties

633
00:47:12,429 --> 00:47:15,528
as well that would receive special benefits. I do want

634
00:47:15,528 --> 00:47:18,728
to note that of these, um, this includes properties that

635
00:47:18,909 --> 00:47:23,688
have submitted petitions and support like Edwards arm apartments, urbana

636
00:47:23,949 --> 00:47:28,088
for citizens bank. We did not receive any letters or

637
00:47:28,109 --> 00:47:32,408
petitions in opposition for any of the properties that are

638
00:47:32,448 --> 00:47:35,928
proposed to be included in the new district that we're

639
00:47:35,928 --> 00:47:38,648
not included in the previous district. And a total of

640
00:47:38,669 --> 00:47:42,248
13 parcels that are single family residential have been excluded

641
00:47:42,288 --> 00:47:46,614
from the district. So let's look at the existing versus

642
00:47:46,795 --> 00:47:50,854
proposed changes as well. As I mentioned, the assessment formula

643
00:47:50,875 --> 00:47:55,334
does now include the building area. It also includes a

644
00:47:55,374 --> 00:47:58,534
assessment amount for residential condo buildings as the impacts of

645
00:47:58,574 --> 00:48:02,614
those buildings may be different or less than those of

646
00:48:03,035 --> 00:48:07,187
other commercial businesses or those being assessed. And when you

647
00:48:07,227 --> 00:48:11,107
look at the overall district and the changes, it primarily

648
00:48:11,128 --> 00:48:14,467
includes a continuation of services that benefit and provide special

649
00:48:14,488 --> 00:48:17,907
benefit to the entirety of the district plus the 11

650
00:48:17,928 --> 00:48:22,238
additional properties that have been included within the boundaries. When

651
00:48:22,278 --> 00:48:24,878
we look at the proposed activities and benefits drilling in

652
00:48:24,918 --> 00:48:27,278
a little bit further, uh, they continue to be special

653
00:48:27,318 --> 00:48:30,318
benefits for the property owners and the defined geographic area

654
00:48:31,139 --> 00:48:34,478
and expansion of sidewalk sweeping pressure washing, graffiti removal and

655
00:48:34,478 --> 00:48:37,358
trash removal. All things that keep downtown clean and safe

656
00:48:37,398 --> 00:48:40,638
are a part of this program. The enhanced landscaping and

657
00:48:40,659 --> 00:48:44,798
maintenance is also included. And we find that working with

658
00:48:45,219 --> 00:48:49,838
a organization like assessment district provides hyperlocal engagement, which gives

659
00:48:49,878 --> 00:48:52,798
us connection to the businesses and also sort of in

660
00:48:52,798 --> 00:48:55,678
an early warning system to the city on ideas or

661
00:48:55,699 --> 00:48:59,038
areas that can be improved. A new ideas for ways

662
00:48:59,139 --> 00:49:03,198
of making our downtown a stellar place to be and

663
00:49:03,238 --> 00:49:06,280
to visit. And then finally, I would like to note

664
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,200
that in addition to all the special events that are

665
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:12,680
put on by our downtown association. The district is generating

666
00:49:12,941 --> 00:49:15,960
non - assessment revenue. So in addition to the budget

667
00:49:16,061 --> 00:49:19,560
that we see today for the district, about twice that

668
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,480
much, um, or nearly doubling of the budget, uh, comes

669
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,080
from the non - assessment revenue, things like the farmer's

670
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,520
market, the list muerte, this, the lemon festival, which have

671
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,760
a significant economic impact or applying for grants, which the

672
00:49:34,941 --> 00:49:37,800
downtown association is applied for many grants that they've received

673
00:49:38,061 --> 00:49:41,000
and have provided a benefit. So in addition to the

674
00:49:41,181 --> 00:49:43,960
basic services that we see every day from the district,

675
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,040
we also have the benefit of the non - assessment

676
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,840
activities. They really make downtown a vibrant place to be.

677
00:49:50,422 --> 00:49:53,576
So what are the next steps. Should you approve the

678
00:49:53,597 --> 00:49:57,016
actions tonight? The next step would be for us to

679
00:49:57,517 --> 00:50:00,936
send ballots to the affected property owners that are outlined

680
00:50:00,957 --> 00:50:03,999
in the engineer's report. We would intend to send those

681
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,119
out by the beginning of next week. And no later

682
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,482
than that. Uh, we would then, uh, you would be

683
00:50:10,503 --> 00:50:14,962
setting the public hearing tonight for November 10th. We would

684
00:50:14,962 --> 00:50:17,762
then conduct that public hearing on that date, which includes

685
00:50:17,863 --> 00:50:20,962
a public ballot counting. Yes, we might have to take

686
00:50:21,002 --> 00:50:22,962
a break because we don't know how many ballots we'll

687
00:50:23,002 --> 00:50:25,202
get back yet to count those ballots. But those are

688
00:50:25,202 --> 00:50:28,562
done in public view, um, to ensure the transparency of

689
00:50:28,602 --> 00:50:32,391
this process. We would review the management district plan, which

690
00:50:32,391 --> 00:50:36,791
provides additional information related to the operations of the district.

691
00:50:36,791 --> 00:50:38,551
And who will be running the district, which in the

692
00:50:38,591 --> 00:50:42,391
petition was the greater third avenue association. And then approval

693
00:50:42,431 --> 00:50:44,871
over the final engineer's report, which lays the basis for

694
00:50:44,911 --> 00:50:48,183
the assessments that will occur. We would also evaluate our

695
00:50:48,364 --> 00:50:52,983
existing operating agreement with the owners association, which currently provides

696
00:50:53,004 --> 00:50:55,463
for how they interact with the city and the services

697
00:50:55,503 --> 00:50:58,103
that they can provide in things like public spaces and

698
00:50:58,124 --> 00:51:00,423
public right - of - way, and make any changes

699
00:51:00,684 --> 00:51:03,063
and bring that proposed operating agreement back to the city

700
00:51:03,084 --> 00:51:07,556
council. And then finally, should all of those steps occur

701
00:51:08,057 --> 00:51:11,476
and a district is established. The new assessment would begin

702
00:51:11,657 --> 00:51:18,686
on January 1st, 2027. So with that, uh, the action

703
00:51:18,726 --> 00:51:21,086
before you is to adopt the resolution, to approve the

704
00:51:21,126 --> 00:51:24,926
final assessment engineers report, set the resolution of intent to

705
00:51:24,947 --> 00:51:27,966
establish the downtown Chulivista district for a period of 20

706
00:51:27,966 --> 00:51:32,312
years. Set the public hearing on such establishment. And since

707
00:51:32,493 --> 00:51:35,352
to date, the city is not voted on this district

708
00:51:35,392 --> 00:51:38,632
formation. Authorize a city manager to vote in favor of

709
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:41,832
establishing the district for all parcels within the district boundary

710
00:51:41,933 --> 00:51:44,632
owned by the city as the city has done three

711
00:51:44,653 --> 00:51:48,921
times previously and has been our practice. With that, I'm

712
00:51:48,921 --> 00:51:52,861
open for any questions and appreciate the time. Thank you

713
00:51:52,882 --> 00:51:56,781
very much, Mr. Graham. We're going to start with public

714
00:51:56,882 --> 00:51:59,821
speakers, Madam Clerk. Can you please call the first public

715
00:51:59,842 --> 00:52:05,724
speaker. The first speaker is John Acosta, followed by Sylvia

716
00:52:06,305 --> 00:52:11,662
Chydus, followed by Joseph Razo. I've been keeping up with

717
00:52:11,702 --> 00:52:14,042
a planning on this project. I really like it. And

718
00:52:14,042 --> 00:52:15,422
I think it's a, you know, he said he's very

719
00:52:15,462 --> 00:52:18,702
similar to Italy. One of the things of her comment

720
00:52:19,203 --> 00:52:25,582
about his ordinary. There is an ordinary, which is not

721
00:52:25,622 --> 00:52:29,982
been enforced. And as you know, don't tell the real

722
00:52:29,982 --> 00:52:37,822
estate surrounded by senior seniors. So that's, you know, evening,

723
00:52:37,822 --> 00:52:42,249
it's almost like a revolution. In that noise wise. It's

724
00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:46,009
nothing compared to little early. Can they really, activities going

725
00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:49,129
off there, but it's very quiet. And the control. So,

726
00:52:49,129 --> 00:52:52,649
you know, I like to see something that considered a

727
00:52:52,689 --> 00:52:55,449
senior school live around the area. When I think of,

728
00:52:55,449 --> 00:52:58,809
you know, I like to see it more senior friendly.

729
00:52:58,809 --> 00:53:02,569
Ministry and friendly because in the evenings, Israel loud, very

730
00:53:02,569 --> 00:53:05,289
loud and everybody started spending, it was very loud. He's

731
00:53:05,329 --> 00:53:09,302
not senior friendly. One other thing that, you know, I

732
00:53:09,302 --> 00:53:12,262
mentioned before in a mention of the plenty of side,

733
00:53:12,262 --> 00:53:15,367
it seems to make a walkable area. And what war

734
00:53:15,407 --> 00:53:18,167
area simply because, you know, this place, this place is

735
00:53:18,207 --> 00:53:21,927
to go for seniors, but in the evenings, yes, quite

736
00:53:21,927 --> 00:53:24,887
too loud. Like I say, he's not a compared to

737
00:53:25,388 --> 00:53:28,487
Italy in the evening. It's more like revolution en Tijuana.

738
00:53:29,297 --> 00:53:33,836
So cancered noes and McFrimley and, uh, you know, make

739
00:53:34,017 --> 00:53:39,851
it more family friendly, make a more senior oriented. Baby

740
00:53:39,952 --> 00:53:45,371
inclusive in the seniors. There's a senior senior population in

741
00:53:45,371 --> 00:53:48,691
the area. And once I started with this planning, I

742
00:53:48,752 --> 00:53:50,891
spoke to you and Council Member Priscilla. He said, well,

743
00:53:50,931 --> 00:53:53,091
they could use close the door, close the windows. No.

744
00:53:54,422 --> 00:53:58,161
That was not to carry their noise. Okay. So why

745
00:53:58,201 --> 00:54:01,201
was it just in 40 ordinance? That's what they, they

746
00:54:01,201 --> 00:54:02,961
have the ordinance, you know, they know this a lot

747
00:54:02,961 --> 00:54:05,761
of ordinance. They're, you know, they're by layer, they're nine

748
00:54:05,801 --> 00:54:09,521
force such as yourselves, you know, supposed to be two

749
00:54:09,521 --> 00:54:14,081
years a year. Some and some people have a yard

750
00:54:14,121 --> 00:54:17,421
sales and seven days a week. You know, I mentioned

751
00:54:17,682 --> 00:54:20,681
to the city attorney as a measure of preciado, you

752
00:54:20,681 --> 00:54:23,341
know, it's been neglected. So, you know, need to enforce

753
00:54:23,362 --> 00:54:26,461
the ordinance. That's why have the ordinary, if you don't

754
00:54:26,501 --> 00:54:34,298
enforce it. The next speaker is Sylvia Chyres followed by

755
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,898
Joseph Razo followed by Stephanie at a chiga.

756
00:54:45,259 --> 00:54:48,598
Good evening, Mayor and Council members. My name is Sylvia

757
00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:53,558
and I'm here representing CNC flats of 43 unit conventional

758
00:54:54,219 --> 00:54:58,678
market rate residential community located at center and church in

759
00:54:58,678 --> 00:55:03,459
downtown Chulavista. We've been a member of the downtown Chilevista

760
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,379
Association for the past two years. And during that time,

761
00:55:07,379 --> 00:55:10,499
I've really come to understand the value, the district brings.

762
00:55:11,863 --> 00:55:14,962
Not just two businesses, but to those of us managing

763
00:55:15,463 --> 00:55:18,802
residential communities and most importantly to the people who live

764
00:55:18,842 --> 00:55:24,242
here. Our residents include working professionals, families, members of the

765
00:55:24,343 --> 00:55:29,522
military law enforcement and medical professionals. These are people who

766
00:55:29,623 --> 00:55:33,442
work throughout our community and the greater San Diego region,

767
00:55:33,442 --> 00:55:36,082
but have chosen to make downtown Chula Vista their home.

768
00:55:37,216 --> 00:55:39,915
And what happens outside our building is a big part

769
00:55:39,955 --> 00:55:44,395
of that choice. Our residents regularly enjoy the farmer's market

770
00:55:45,136 --> 00:55:50,155
restaurants, festivals, and downtown activities. When I speak with perspective

771
00:55:50,416 --> 00:55:53,755
residents, the neighborhood and what is happening around us is

772
00:55:53,795 --> 00:55:55,515
often a big part of why they choose to live

773
00:55:55,555 --> 00:55:58,685
here. But there's another side of the district that I

774
00:55:58,706 --> 00:56:03,143
see as a property manager. Our driveway connects to an

775
00:56:03,143 --> 00:56:08,269
alley. And when we have issues with graffiti trash maintenance

776
00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:12,349
or houseless activities, having a direct line of communication with

777
00:56:12,370 --> 00:56:17,309
the DCVA and the resources they coordinate makes a real

778
00:56:17,410 --> 00:56:21,929
difference. We work together. We communicate regularly and I can

779
00:56:21,929 --> 00:56:25,052
see the results right outside of our building. The same

780
00:56:25,073 --> 00:56:29,772
is true of the clean sidewalks landscaping graffiti removal community

781
00:56:29,812 --> 00:56:33,772
events and the involvement of local businesses. All those things

782
00:56:34,033 --> 00:56:38,044
contribute to the quality of life our residence experience. I

783
00:56:38,145 --> 00:56:41,644
can work hard to provide a great living environment inside

784
00:56:41,665 --> 00:56:45,804
of CC flats. But our residents experience doesn't stop at

785
00:56:45,905 --> 00:56:50,124
our front door. The condition, activity and sense of community

786
00:56:50,465 --> 00:56:53,884
downtown are all part of what makes living here attractive.

787
00:56:54,545 --> 00:56:58,180
I think downtown Chillista has something unique. And I believe

788
00:56:58,761 --> 00:57:02,180
continuing the district gives us the organization and resources to

789
00:57:02,361 --> 00:57:08,356
protect what is working while continuing to improve. For those

790
00:57:08,396 --> 00:57:12,436
reasons, CC flat supports item 7. 2 and the establishment

791
00:57:12,476 --> 00:57:17,076
of the downtown Chillivista community benefit district. Thank you for

792
00:57:17,116 --> 00:57:21,497
your time. Thank you very much. Next is Joseph Razo

793
00:57:21,598 --> 00:57:30,640
followed by Stephanie Arretiga followed by Abraham Teran. Same story.

794
00:57:31,621 --> 00:57:34,320
Uh, I, um, I got a restaurant and two of

795
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,640
us called La Bella Pizza that my parents opened up

796
00:57:36,661 --> 00:57:41,536
in 55. And we've always tried to improve the downtown.

797
00:57:41,536 --> 00:57:44,976
And since TAV, a first organized in 2001, we've been

798
00:57:44,976 --> 00:57:48,416
part of the organization. We're trying to make downtown a

799
00:57:48,456 --> 00:57:51,836
destination where people could come and enjoy. And the two

800
00:57:51,836 --> 00:57:54,016
big parts of the jigsaw puzzle that have come together

801
00:57:54,277 --> 00:57:56,076
now at the end of the year, if we can

802
00:57:56,076 --> 00:57:59,056
get this approved, we can get a district that everybody

803
00:57:59,637 --> 00:58:02,336
could unify and work around bringing the events to live

804
00:58:02,376 --> 00:58:05,856
in fessel, stuff like that. If we get that, can

805
00:58:05,896 --> 00:58:09,216
we replace Jose Priciado on the council? He put those

806
00:58:09,256 --> 00:58:12,416
two pieces together. And I think we'd succeed. So that's

807
00:58:12,456 --> 00:58:16,096
all I'm voting encouraging to vote for that because we

808
00:58:16,277 --> 00:58:19,856
want to see organized and continue to improve downtown Julista

809
00:58:20,197 --> 00:58:28,359
Mattizol. Next is Stephanie Arachiga followed by Abraham, Terran, followed

810
00:58:28,359 --> 00:58:37,618
by Kevin O'Neill. Hello. Good evening again. Yes, I did

811
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:41,618
send Mr. Graham and Mr. Lamondrey an email with detailed

812
00:58:43,479 --> 00:58:47,458
minute meetings for what I had indicated last week. Their

813
00:58:47,498 --> 00:58:52,738
bylaws and discrepancies that they both said, um, last week.

814
00:58:52,738 --> 00:58:55,378
And although Mr. Graham did email me back today, he

815
00:58:55,639 --> 00:59:01,198
did say anything related to DCAVA. Please address them. And

816
00:59:01,198 --> 00:59:05,538
I have yet to hear from Mr. Lamonjri. And it's

817
00:59:05,538 --> 00:59:08,818
been a week. And those questions are very important about

818
00:59:08,919 --> 00:59:12,898
governance, especially since where they're asking us to approve a

819
00:59:12,999 --> 00:59:18,556
20 year plan. That is huge. And within that plan,

820
00:59:18,657 --> 00:59:22,156
it allows for a seven percent increase in assessment dues

821
00:59:22,177 --> 00:59:25,116
or fees, whatever the right word is. Um, it doesn't

822
00:59:25,116 --> 00:59:27,436
mean that every year it's going to be seven percent,

823
00:59:27,436 --> 00:59:30,236
but they will have the right to do seven percent.

824
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,139
I think the last plan was up to three three

825
00:59:35,139 --> 00:59:37,519
percent. And it's also important to note that a lot

826
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:40,819
of the, um, assessment fees actually get passed down to

827
00:59:40,819 --> 00:59:44,179
the business owners that are renting those spaces. And those

828
00:59:44,219 --> 00:59:47,939
business owners under this plan have no representation. It's only

829
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,339
the property owners. And one thing that I really do

830
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,459
want you all to focus on is the weighted votes.

831
00:59:55,459 --> 00:59:58,659
If you think about it, the city has what 15

832
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,259
percent, I forgot 12 percent They have a pretty big,

833
01:00:02,259 --> 01:00:08,059
um, you have other, um, large, uh, property owners, I

834
01:00:08,059 --> 01:00:12,399
think like smizer group might be quoting that wrong. Um,

835
01:00:12,399 --> 01:00:16,419
they also own a really big part. So essentially we,

836
01:00:16,419 --> 01:00:20,579
they only need to solicit votes from very small percentage

837
01:00:20,619 --> 01:00:24,364
of people. Because again, that vote is waited. So my

838
01:00:24,785 --> 01:00:29,004
question specifically to the city council is what governance and

839
01:00:29,025 --> 01:00:36,044
accountability safeguards have other jurisdictions incorporated when incorporated when authorizing

840
01:00:36,145 --> 01:00:39,164
a 20 year district, particularly those districts who are being

841
01:00:39,265 --> 01:00:43,484
renewed or converted from existing assessments. Also, are there going

842
01:00:43,484 --> 01:00:47,824
to be safeguards for representation for property? I mean, I'm

843
01:00:47,824 --> 01:00:52,233
sorry, for business owners, uh, the question. Uh, before council

844
01:00:52,273 --> 01:00:54,513
should not be whether we need a PBID, like, of

845
01:00:54,513 --> 01:00:56,793
course we do. All of the things that Ms. Sylvia

846
01:00:56,833 --> 01:01:01,513
had indicated can still exist under a PBID that's not

847
01:01:01,534 --> 01:01:07,094
20 years. That's not, um, that's inclusive of business owners

848
01:01:07,115 --> 01:01:10,134
as well. Um, and I do, I know I only

849
01:01:10,134 --> 01:01:12,134
have 23 seconds. I do want to be very transparent

850
01:01:12,174 --> 01:01:15,254
with everyone. There are at least two news outlets that

851
01:01:15,275 --> 01:01:18,774
are interested in this story specifically about the PBID and

852
01:01:18,814 --> 01:01:22,534
the association. I've also applied for a grant for additional

853
01:01:22,574 --> 01:01:25,974
support and investigation. So I can, um, hire experts from

854
01:01:26,315 --> 01:01:30,214
Southwestern university professors of business econ to help me look

855
01:01:30,235 --> 01:01:37,463
through the financial records of the association. Thank you. Next

856
01:01:37,724 --> 01:01:42,823
is Abraham, Turan, followed by Kevin O'Neill, followed by Daisy

857
01:01:42,924 --> 01:01:52,769
Romero. Abraham. Ab was here. I don't know if he

858
01:01:52,769 --> 01:01:56,769
went to the restroom. But go ahead and call up

859
01:01:56,950 --> 01:02:00,249
Mr. O'Neill. We'll go on to Kevin O'Neill followed by

860
01:02:00,470 --> 01:02:10,177
Daisy Romero. Good

861
01:02:10,217 --> 01:02:18,671
evening. Honorable mayor, councilman and woman. Um, Kevin O'Neill. I

862
01:02:18,671 --> 01:02:23,932
cut to the chase. Yes. We support it. I think

863
01:02:23,932 --> 01:02:28,415
this is. A good thing. Um, I was skeptical in

864
01:02:28,415 --> 01:02:31,085
the beginning. I think I gave David into the mandaris

865
01:02:31,125 --> 01:02:35,302
heartburn. For a while as I became more, more comfortable

866
01:02:35,963 --> 01:02:45,507
with it. We probably represent probably the largest private. Block

867
01:02:45,547 --> 01:02:50,912
of. Property within this and the expanded. That would include

868
01:02:51,493 --> 01:02:54,832
the health and fitness center on third avenue all the

869
01:02:54,832 --> 01:02:58,192
way down to all those green spaces on the north

870
01:02:58,192 --> 01:03:06,929
side. And quite frankly, the aggregate assessment was more than

871
01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:12,129
it would cost us to hire a full time maintenance

872
01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:16,914
person to take care of our properties. But we need.

873
01:03:18,684 --> 01:03:23,637
It's trite, but a rising tide raises all boats. And

874
01:03:23,898 --> 01:03:28,519
we're doing what we can to make third avenue. Populated

875
01:03:29,820 --> 01:03:34,119
and an exciting. I think we go further. The one

876
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:36,279
thing I would like to see to make this successful

877
01:03:36,860 --> 01:03:41,879
is that the downtown business association should have a direct

878
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:50,439
line of communications to the hot crew.

879
01:03:53,094 --> 01:03:58,090
The PD generally speaking. Because that, that's what we need

880
01:03:58,130 --> 01:04:02,010
to have. So we think it is a wise investment

881
01:04:02,111 --> 01:04:06,250
in the community. Our property will be worth more and

882
01:04:06,271 --> 01:04:10,170
more inviting to those who would live and work within

883
01:04:10,210 --> 01:04:16,250
it. Uh, the better and more lively, that third avenue

884
01:04:16,271 --> 01:04:20,668
comes. So that's, that's what I have to say. Thank

885
01:04:20,708 --> 01:04:26,603
you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, next we have Daisy

886
01:04:26,864 --> 01:04:36,474
Romero. Followed by Abraham Turin if he's back. Good

887
01:04:36,474 --> 01:04:40,314
evening. Mr. Mayor, Council members, I'm here in my capacity

888
01:04:40,354 --> 01:04:42,954
as a business owner. I own two retail shops on

889
01:04:43,055 --> 01:04:46,394
third avenue and what eternal. And Choloskit. My name is

890
01:04:46,434 --> 01:04:49,834
Daisy Romero. I'm here in support of the district just

891
01:04:49,874 --> 01:04:53,194
because I've seen firsthand what it does and just being

892
01:04:53,194 --> 01:04:58,474
able to have, um, somebody, you know, nearby to say,

893
01:04:58,474 --> 01:05:01,434
Hey, like this needs power washing. I know it's small

894
01:05:01,474 --> 01:05:04,154
things, but that's what makes, you know, third avenue really

895
01:05:04,194 --> 01:05:08,554
inviting. And I know in the past, um, I've seen

896
01:05:08,735 --> 01:05:10,554
just a lot more people saying, Oh my God, I

897
01:05:10,594 --> 01:05:13,674
haven't been to downtown in years. This has changed so

898
01:05:13,674 --> 01:05:15,834
much. It looks so good. Like this is so great.

899
01:05:15,834 --> 01:05:19,194
And I'm like, this is a great part of town.

900
01:05:19,194 --> 01:05:21,114
And I think if we keep the momentum going with

901
01:05:21,215 --> 01:05:23,034
the district is going to be just very helpful for

902
01:05:23,074 --> 01:05:27,914
all the businesses there. Um, and just even down to,

903
01:05:27,914 --> 01:05:31,594
you know, the tables and chairs. And not everything has

904
01:05:31,634 --> 01:05:34,394
to be like super grandiose, but just the little things

905
01:05:34,434 --> 01:05:37,754
that make people in the community want to come and

906
01:05:37,794 --> 01:05:44,074
spend time here. And obviously money. It's always really helpful.

907
01:05:44,074 --> 01:05:48,074
And, um, you know, also like the events, lemon festival,

908
01:05:48,074 --> 01:05:51,174
you know, it's such a successful event for us. And

909
01:05:51,174 --> 01:05:55,034
we get so many people to come down who from

910
01:05:55,375 --> 01:05:58,874
all parts of the county and, you know, more business.

911
01:05:58,874 --> 01:06:01,674
So, you know, just here to support, um, the work

912
01:06:02,095 --> 01:06:07,754
that, um, that, you know, they've done. And hopefully we

913
01:06:07,754 --> 01:06:12,394
can keep this going and grow, you know, downtown further.

914
01:06:12,394 --> 01:06:14,474
So I hope you guys support this. Thank you very

915
01:06:14,474 --> 01:06:20,714
much. Thank you. Thank you. Um, is Abraham Taran back

916
01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:23,501
in the building. No, he said. He had to leave.

917
01:06:24,748 --> 01:06:29,207
Okay. We'll continue with our remote callers. Our first caller

918
01:06:29,247 --> 01:06:32,167
is Robert. You have been unmuted. Please proceed with your

919
01:06:32,268 --> 01:06:40,484
comment. Thank you very much. Um. So.

920
01:06:42,353 --> 01:06:45,052
You know, I'm not here to argue with property owners

921
01:06:45,092 --> 01:06:49,717
that want to do the process. Right. I'm against the

922
01:06:49,978 --> 01:06:52,837
weighted vote with the city. And then they have something

923
01:06:53,178 --> 01:06:56,837
to gain from it. And then, you know, it just

924
01:06:56,877 --> 01:06:58,677
puts me in a predicament where I have to ask

925
01:06:59,018 --> 01:07:02,557
like, why should the city even take a position? It

926
01:07:02,557 --> 01:07:06,837
should just be something voted on between the property owners.

927
01:07:06,837 --> 01:07:08,917
I mean, you guys aren't property owners. You guys are

928
01:07:08,957 --> 01:07:12,757
the city of Chilevista, right? Like you guys aren't someone.

929
01:07:12,757 --> 01:07:15,636
You guys are a thing. You know, when did, when

930
01:07:15,737 --> 01:07:19,633
did, uh, governments be able to start voting. We voted

931
01:07:19,734 --> 01:07:24,593
for McCann or in soon soon or whoever, right. And

932
01:07:24,854 --> 01:07:27,233
those are the people who get to vote. Not those,

933
01:07:27,233 --> 01:07:32,909
not the city. Right. And so, you know, I, I

934
01:07:33,010 --> 01:07:37,356
have a huge issue with that idea of transparency. To,

935
01:07:37,356 --> 01:07:41,116
uh, I don't know what offset it is, but it's

936
01:07:41,156 --> 01:07:45,516
definitely a financial conflict of interest just on that alone.

937
01:07:46,642 --> 01:07:49,101
So, you know, and like I said, I'm not against

938
01:07:49,522 --> 01:07:53,821
the owners voting, right? Like the property owners. It sucks

939
01:07:53,821 --> 01:07:55,901
for the renters. I hear the, I hear you on

940
01:07:55,901 --> 01:07:58,301
that one. There's not much I can do about that.

941
01:07:58,301 --> 01:08:01,541
But I hope that in an idea of fairness, I

942
01:08:01,541 --> 01:08:05,261
mean, you're talking about a complex that rents to single

943
01:08:05,602 --> 01:08:08,141
family is that gets to vote, but then single families

944
01:08:08,181 --> 01:08:11,977
don't get to vote. So it's a little hypocritical. Um,

945
01:08:12,017 --> 01:08:14,457
and then if you lost them, how much money would

946
01:08:14,457 --> 01:08:17,817
come in? And, you know, and so like, I don't,

947
01:08:17,817 --> 01:08:19,497
you know, like I said, I think those are a

948
01:08:19,497 --> 01:08:22,217
real conflict in one person being able to vote 17

949
01:08:22,238 --> 01:08:31,361
times. Or however many that is like, you know, how

950
01:08:31,401 --> 01:08:33,841
many boats do you get on the dais one or,

951
01:08:33,862 --> 01:08:37,292
or 17 times. You guys let me know they're even

952
01:08:37,473 --> 01:08:40,092
going to count the ballots in public. Can you believe

953
01:08:40,092 --> 01:08:42,652
that they don't need computers to do all their towning.

954
01:08:43,545 --> 01:08:45,844
I know you guys just put your faith in computers,

955
01:08:45,844 --> 01:08:47,844
but they'll, they'll even said they're going to count it

956
01:08:48,025 --> 01:08:49,620
right in front of us. And then we'll get to

957
01:08:49,641 --> 01:08:55,055
read the city of Chilevis and voted. 17 times. San

958
01:08:55,055 --> 01:08:59,855
Diego County voted, however, three, uh, three water authority voted

959
01:09:00,276 --> 01:09:07,183
one. You know, you have 30 seconds left. You know,

960
01:09:07,223 --> 01:09:09,183
thank you. Uh, you, you probably won't show the names

961
01:09:09,684 --> 01:09:15,877
cause that would be doxyna voter. But you'll count it

962
01:09:15,877 --> 01:09:19,197
in front of us and then everybody'll know that no

963
01:09:19,237 --> 01:09:21,597
matter what they did, the city of Cho Vista runs

964
01:09:21,618 --> 01:09:26,383
this, the district doesn't run it. Obviously. The district can't

965
01:09:26,383 --> 01:09:30,143
even vote for it. Like enough to not allow it

966
01:09:30,183 --> 01:09:34,783
to happen. So it's a huge convoy of interest that

967
01:09:34,783 --> 01:09:37,423
you chose to your time is concluded. Maybe she does

968
01:09:37,423 --> 01:09:39,903
not vote. Like you should just like not vote on

969
01:09:39,943 --> 01:09:42,223
this one and sit it out and see what happens.

970
01:09:42,223 --> 01:09:50,324
Right. You know, try something to do. Anyways. That concludes

971
01:09:50,345 --> 01:09:53,524
the public comment. Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. I'm sorry. We

972
01:09:53,564 --> 01:09:56,484
have one additional speaker who, um, like to address the

973
01:09:56,505 --> 01:09:58,724
city council on this item. If you could just state

974
01:09:58,764 --> 01:10:01,444
your name for the record, please. Yes. Go ahead. Thank

975
01:10:01,444 --> 01:10:07,367
you. Apologize. I checked in at the front there, but

976
01:10:07,367 --> 01:10:10,427
I guess I got overlooked. Well, we got you now.

977
01:10:10,427 --> 01:10:13,787
So we're good. Right. My name is Joe Warren and

978
01:10:13,827 --> 01:10:17,643
I'm here to lend my support. For item 7. 2

979
01:10:17,683 --> 01:10:20,283
on the council agenda and the establishment of the downtown

980
01:10:20,544 --> 01:10:24,489
Chula Vista community benefit district. I've been a board member

981
01:10:24,590 --> 01:10:29,129
of the downtown Chula Vista Association since November of 2022

982
01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:32,569
and served as the president of the board since December

983
01:10:32,670 --> 01:10:37,423
of 2025. I'm on the board as the property ownership

984
01:10:37,924 --> 01:10:41,663
representative of the Smiser family, which has owned the property

985
01:10:41,684 --> 01:10:45,583
known as Park Plaza located at 310 3rd Avenue since

986
01:10:46,084 --> 01:10:51,045
2001. Perhaps you've had a coffee from dark horse. We

987
01:10:51,066 --> 01:10:54,325
currently have over 30 tenants that are doing business here

988
01:10:54,325 --> 01:10:57,491
in the district. And my office has been on site

989
01:10:57,491 --> 01:11:01,171
at the properties since 2018. And I'm down here every

990
01:11:01,171 --> 01:11:04,611
day. And very familiar with what it takes to maintain

991
01:11:04,872 --> 01:11:08,264
and operate the property in the district. I believe the

992
01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:11,704
continuation of the district is critical to the continued success

993
01:11:12,125 --> 01:11:16,344
of the businesses in the district. The city itself has

994
01:11:16,384 --> 01:11:21,216
made a major investment in the sidewalks landscaping. Lighting and

995
01:11:21,216 --> 01:11:24,156
signage and done a terrific job with it all, um,

996
01:11:24,437 --> 01:11:29,536
in turn all these items require ongoing maintenance, repair, replanting,

997
01:11:29,557 --> 01:11:32,976
cleaning and care well above and beyond what is found

998
01:11:33,077 --> 01:11:36,972
on a typical street. In our case, I personally meet

999
01:11:37,012 --> 01:11:40,092
with prospective tenants and I consistently hear them say that

1000
01:11:40,132 --> 01:11:42,892
they want to be right here because of the inviting

1001
01:11:43,153 --> 01:11:46,572
atmosphere that the district has created and how clean it

1002
01:11:46,572 --> 01:11:50,812
is kept, how well it is maintained, um, and they

1003
01:11:50,812 --> 01:11:52,732
enjoy seeing the people out and about using the new

1004
01:11:52,732 --> 01:11:57,292
tables and chairs. And with having so many restaurants, coffee

1005
01:11:57,292 --> 01:12:00,252
shops and other amenities right here. It's very inviting atmosphere.

1006
01:12:00,794 --> 01:12:03,493
Other tenants have found us during their visits to the

1007
01:12:03,514 --> 01:12:07,573
weekly farmers markets, um, or to the lemon festival or

1008
01:12:07,573 --> 01:12:09,973
one of the many other events, uh, that the association

1009
01:12:09,994 --> 01:12:13,333
puts on. And through a combination of these factors, our

1010
01:12:13,373 --> 01:12:15,893
property is stayed nearly a hundred percent least for several

1011
01:12:15,914 --> 01:12:21,493
years with many thriving businesses. Uh, briefly shifting to the,

1012
01:12:21,493 --> 01:12:24,773
what the renewal plan looks like. I believe the inclusion

1013
01:12:24,794 --> 01:12:28,293
of the new building square foot factor is one of

1014
01:12:28,293 --> 01:12:32,613
the most important, um, aspects of the plan. And a

1015
01:12:32,613 --> 01:12:35,653
quick example of this is the new seven story apartment,

1016
01:12:35,653 --> 01:12:37,973
um, building at third and E. I believe it was

1017
01:12:37,994 --> 01:12:42,773
previously used as a car sales lot. But without the

1018
01:12:42,773 --> 01:12:46,613
proposal, um, changed in the new plan that factors in

1019
01:12:46,613 --> 01:12:49,013
the building square footage. They would be paying the same

1020
01:12:49,034 --> 01:12:52,293
amount, um, an assessments, whether it's the car lot or

1021
01:12:52,314 --> 01:12:55,253
a 56 unit residential building. So I think we should

1022
01:12:55,293 --> 01:12:59,093
be grateful for the foresight envisioned to get, um, in

1023
01:12:59,093 --> 01:13:01,813
front of this with a formula that will grow as

1024
01:13:01,853 --> 01:13:05,253
the district grows. Um, we support the measure and I

1025
01:13:05,253 --> 01:13:09,411
hope you will too. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, we also

1026
01:13:09,592 --> 01:13:12,291
have Timothy Parker who would like to speak on this

1027
01:13:12,392 --> 01:13:14,851
item. And if you registered for this item and have

1028
01:13:14,851 --> 01:13:16,451
not heard your name yet, if you'll please come up

1029
01:13:16,451 --> 01:13:21,153
to the city clerk's desk here. Yes. Thank you. Welcome

1030
01:13:21,414 --> 01:13:24,993
Tim. Hey, how's it going? Dave. Thank you guys for

1031
01:13:25,014 --> 01:13:27,553
having me. I'm Tim Parker on a two of us

1032
01:13:27,593 --> 01:13:30,793
debris. Been here for about what nine years now. So

1033
01:13:30,793 --> 01:13:33,153
I kind of got to hurry up because I added

1034
01:13:33,174 --> 01:13:36,913
some comments. Uh, this is to David. Today David said

1035
01:13:37,174 --> 01:13:40,353
that some of these questions are unrelated and should be

1036
01:13:40,454 --> 01:13:45,311
disregarded. I strongly disagree. My question should never be disregarded,

1037
01:13:45,311 --> 01:13:48,911
David. Um, you get your, yes, you did go back

1038
01:13:48,911 --> 01:13:53,471
and read a minute. David present himself to this council

1039
01:13:53,511 --> 01:13:56,891
as the subject matter expert on the P bill. But

1040
01:13:56,891 --> 01:14:00,991
when we act substantial questions about the government's, the voting,

1041
01:14:00,991 --> 01:14:04,351
the compensation, the oversight. We are directed to the DCBA

1042
01:14:04,452 --> 01:14:10,364
records request or incomplete public information. Each corrected, these questions

1043
01:14:10,545 --> 01:14:13,484
are directly related to what we are being asked to

1044
01:14:13,524 --> 01:14:15,750
approve today. So that was to you. Now let me

1045
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:20,344
go back to my rebel. Now that I said, all

1046
01:14:20,344 --> 01:14:22,764
right, I wanted to explain why I continue to raise

1047
01:14:22,804 --> 01:14:26,284
concerns about the downtown Chulavista Association. This is bigger than

1048
01:14:26,385 --> 01:14:31,324
the disagreement between businesses and associations. This is about transparency,

1049
01:14:31,324 --> 01:14:36,524
accountability and city responsibility for oversight. David Graham recently responded

1050
01:14:36,545 --> 01:14:39,884
to questions by explaining that the DCVA is a separate

1051
01:14:39,985 --> 01:14:43,004
entity from the city of Chilevista and recommended that questions

1052
01:14:43,105 --> 01:14:46,764
regarding the DCBA be directed back to the DCBA. That's

1053
01:14:46,865 --> 01:14:48,924
amazing because he's supposed to be up here speaking for

1054
01:14:48,924 --> 01:14:51,644
the DCVA. So which one is it? A subject matter

1055
01:14:51,665 --> 01:14:55,963
expert or he just up here. To BSU guys. Um,

1056
01:14:56,064 --> 01:15:00,072
but that's exactly where the problem lies. When this PBF

1057
01:15:00,112 --> 01:15:03,992
comes before the council, city staff and Lucy America stand

1058
01:15:04,032 --> 01:15:07,352
here as the people knowledgeable about the program and provide

1059
01:15:07,392 --> 01:15:11,912
information to council that the council, you guys realize upon.

1060
01:15:11,912 --> 01:15:15,192
But when we act specific questions about governments, boards, selection,

1061
01:15:15,232 --> 01:15:17,752
compensation and financial records, we are directed back to the

1062
01:15:17,773 --> 01:15:21,192
same place again. So who is actually verifying the information

1063
01:15:21,213 --> 01:15:26,294
before the council approves it. Who you rely on that

1064
01:15:26,334 --> 01:15:28,843
person. But when you ask him a specific question, he

1065
01:15:28,944 --> 01:15:31,785
can't answer. But he's giving you all this so -

1066
01:15:31,785 --> 01:15:36,607
called information. All right. So I gave you examples of

1067
01:15:36,628 --> 01:15:40,367
other cities since he has no information. Other city provided

1068
01:15:40,407 --> 01:15:43,087
it for you for free via Google. If you look

1069
01:15:43,127 --> 01:15:47,577
at the annual report, I gave you guys examples. There

1070
01:15:47,617 --> 01:15:53,817
is 300, 000 expenditures or 193, 000 programs and events

1071
01:15:53,838 --> 01:15:57,897
are projected to generate 340, 000. But the council is

1072
01:15:57,897 --> 01:16:00,857
given very little explanation. If you go to Pamona, they

1073
01:16:00,857 --> 01:16:02,457
give you a lot of information. If you look at

1074
01:16:02,457 --> 01:16:04,777
that exhibit I gave you. If you look at the

1075
01:16:04,817 --> 01:16:09,017
revenue for promoter, it identifies the assessment to city contract,

1076
01:16:09,017 --> 01:16:12,537
the individual events, the revenues, the sponsorships and other sources.

1077
01:16:12,537 --> 01:16:15,737
That's transparency. That's where you don't have. If you go

1078
01:16:15,777 --> 01:16:17,337
look at that, they don't tell you where that's money

1079
01:16:17,337 --> 01:16:21,546
going. Now look at the governance. Promoter tells you where

1080
01:16:21,567 --> 01:16:25,997
the governance is at and what they doing. Oceanside goes

1081
01:16:26,018 --> 01:16:28,077
even further. I'll put this all in exhibit for you

1082
01:16:28,077 --> 01:16:31,115
guys to see. So I'm respectfully. I'm not trying to

1083
01:16:31,115 --> 01:16:32,795
get rid of the P - bet. I want you

1084
01:16:32,835 --> 01:16:35,355
to correct it. This is our opportunity to correct it

1085
01:16:35,355 --> 01:16:40,343
before you give 20 years. To this organization. That's a

1086
01:16:40,343 --> 01:16:42,583
lot of time, a lot of tack pair of dollars.

1087
01:16:42,583 --> 01:16:44,903
And please don't ever walk up here and say what

1088
01:16:44,943 --> 01:16:47,923
I have to say doesn't matter. Thank you very much.

1089
01:16:48,589 --> 01:16:51,208
And we paying attention Parker. Thank you very much. Thank

1090
01:16:51,208 --> 01:16:56,579
you. Thank you, Dave. That concludes the speakers on this

1091
01:16:56,579 --> 01:17:05,052
item. Thank you very much. I will go ahead and,

1092
01:17:05,052 --> 01:17:11,789
uh, first recognize the member from District 2. Thank you,

1093
01:17:11,789 --> 01:17:16,909
Mr. Mayor. Um, a few items that I interested in

1094
01:17:16,909 --> 01:17:21,069
discussing some of the language included in the document that

1095
01:17:21,330 --> 01:17:25,789
is before us, uh, speaks to the issue of safety.

1096
01:17:25,789 --> 01:17:32,436
And I wanted to ask. Mr. Graham to and Council

1097
01:17:33,017 --> 01:17:38,596
Appropriate to discuss what is meant by safety. Is safety,

1098
01:17:38,596 --> 01:17:42,996
um, include public safety such as a police department or

1099
01:17:43,036 --> 01:17:47,636
a code enforcement or anything that the city does separately

1100
01:17:48,137 --> 01:17:51,076
or is safety delimited in some way in the document.

1101
01:17:52,113 --> 01:17:55,532
Thank you very much, Council Member Preciato. So, uh, the

1102
01:17:55,572 --> 01:18:01,052
documents reference clean and safe or safety of the public.

1103
01:18:01,052 --> 01:18:03,212
It is not the term we would use related to

1104
01:18:03,252 --> 01:18:06,812
public safety, which generally is police at fire. Uh, there's

1105
01:18:06,812 --> 01:18:09,612
not duplicative efforts happening in those spaces. When we're talking

1106
01:18:09,612 --> 01:18:14,652
about being in safe, it's primarily clean sidewalks, graffiti abatement,

1107
01:18:14,652 --> 01:18:18,972
the alleys that are occurring. Some limited level of contacting,

1108
01:18:18,972 --> 01:18:20,732
for example, the hot team in the case of a

1109
01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:24,252
homelessness or uncheltered person situation. So there is not a

1110
01:18:24,292 --> 01:18:28,252
role within the district or funded by this related to

1111
01:18:28,833 --> 01:18:32,222
public safety. As we would consider it in the police

1112
01:18:32,563 --> 01:18:38,956
and fire and security science. Thank you. Another question. Will

1113
01:18:38,996 --> 01:18:44,616
there be. Some ordinance require that business owners be represented

1114
01:18:44,656 --> 01:18:48,936
on the governing board or in any capacity on this

1115
01:18:49,277 --> 01:18:54,776
assessment district that is formed and funded by, uh, property

1116
01:18:54,816 --> 01:19:01,249
owners. So I'll reference the existing district, which has both

1117
01:19:01,270 --> 01:19:04,609
property owners and business owners. At this point in time,

1118
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:07,889
there's not a decision related to the owners association or

1119
01:19:07,929 --> 01:19:10,289
what the makeup of that board is. This is just

1120
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:12,849
to make a decision related to move forward with actually

1121
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:16,049
balloting the property owners to see if there is support

1122
01:19:16,230 --> 01:19:20,209
for the actual formation of the district. Decisions related to

1123
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:24,449
who the owners'association would be, what the board makeup of

1124
01:19:24,489 --> 01:19:26,689
that would be, which would be provided to us by

1125
01:19:26,729 --> 01:19:29,729
the owners association would all be information that we would

1126
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:35,649
receive subsequently. November 10th or thereafter related to decisions on

1127
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:38,689
if a district is formed because the property owners have

1128
01:19:38,729 --> 01:19:41,623
voted in favor of it. Who is going to run

1129
01:19:41,663 --> 01:19:44,983
that district? What does that district board look like? Who

1130
01:19:45,023 --> 01:19:50,008
are the representatives on that district? Thank you. Uh, I've

1131
01:19:50,048 --> 01:19:56,968
heard from prominent business owners that this community benefits district

1132
01:19:57,069 --> 01:20:02,008
that reflects a recommendation of the economic development committee that,

1133
01:20:02,008 --> 01:20:05,368
uh, deputy mayor Fernandez and I chaired and then subsequently

1134
01:20:05,709 --> 01:20:10,281
was supported by the full council. And mayor. Um, I

1135
01:20:10,321 --> 01:20:13,801
think this is a proof of concept that may benefit

1136
01:20:13,841 --> 01:20:17,874
the rest of the city. I support the 20 year

1137
01:20:17,914 --> 01:20:22,227
period and I'll speak to that briefly. I also support

1138
01:20:22,888 --> 01:20:28,067
its formation. I'm glad to see that significant property owners

1139
01:20:28,107 --> 01:20:32,387
have decided that the way of the assessment is consistent

1140
01:20:32,427 --> 01:20:37,441
with what they would expect to see. Initially, we heard

1141
01:20:37,481 --> 01:20:40,881
a lot of different opinions from those who are being

1142
01:20:41,222 --> 01:20:44,321
assessed about whether or not this was beneficial or not.

1143
01:20:45,869 --> 01:20:50,328
But I'm, when a property owner comes and tells me

1144
01:20:50,349 --> 01:20:55,048
they have full occupancy and have people interested by what

1145
01:20:55,069 --> 01:20:59,788
is being created by this district. We start understanding why

1146
01:20:59,809 --> 01:21:04,428
other parts of the city, including within district two or

1147
01:21:04,428 --> 01:21:07,628
looking to see if a community benefits district is what

1148
01:21:07,809 --> 01:21:11,708
they need to have in their area. And to do

1149
01:21:11,708 --> 01:21:18,507
the kind of, uh, improvements and quality of atmosphere. I

1150
01:21:18,528 --> 01:21:21,467
will make a comment, though, um, I'm concerned about the

1151
01:21:21,568 --> 01:21:26,747
public safety component. And I know that, um, just recently

1152
01:21:27,888 --> 01:21:32,107
just on the social media feed, we saw, uh, something

1153
01:21:32,147 --> 01:21:35,627
dramatic happened in front of the silver dollar. And so

1154
01:21:35,667 --> 01:21:40,587
I don't know if part of the operation plan can

1155
01:21:40,587 --> 01:21:46,087
include either private security or even the installation of, um,

1156
01:21:47,328 --> 01:21:52,907
uh, well, I'll just speak to my experience on San

1157
01:21:52,907 --> 01:21:56,427
Diego State University. We have, um, buttons that you're able

1158
01:21:56,427 --> 01:22:00,267
to push that indicate there is an emergency going on.

1159
01:22:00,267 --> 01:22:02,507
And you don't really have to be the person experience

1160
01:22:02,528 --> 01:22:05,467
in the emergency. You could be, you could observe something

1161
01:22:05,648 --> 01:22:08,667
happening. And you could call, and I don't know if

1162
01:22:08,688 --> 01:22:12,907
that's an amenity that would enhance the community and be

1163
01:22:12,947 --> 01:22:18,587
consistent with how the property is assessed. I'm not necessarily

1164
01:22:19,328 --> 01:22:21,947
sure, but I think it's something we need to examine

1165
01:22:22,208 --> 01:22:27,147
and look into code enforcement is also very important. There

1166
01:22:27,168 --> 01:22:32,987
are some folks who use signage or other activities that

1167
01:22:33,488 --> 01:22:39,947
are not compliant. And there's always a call for compliancy.

1168
01:22:39,947 --> 01:22:42,267
And in fact, you heard one of our constituents that

1169
01:22:42,368 --> 01:22:50,164
they talk about noise abatement. I'm very familiar with the

1170
01:22:50,265 --> 01:22:53,764
challenges many of the businesses have in maintaining a good

1171
01:22:53,764 --> 01:23:03,249
business model and maintaining their responsibilities. Are observed differently, but,

1172
01:23:03,249 --> 01:23:05,889
uh, I know that, and I know people in this

1173
01:23:05,889 --> 01:23:09,009
room have experienced what ABC can do if you don't

1174
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:13,389
follow your noise. And I don't think it's fair, but

1175
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:17,729
it is a way of, um, managing and monitoring noise.

1176
01:23:18,883 --> 01:23:22,542
Um, and, uh, it's what we have now. So we

1177
01:23:22,542 --> 01:23:24,782
do have an ordinance, but some of the businesses who

1178
01:23:24,803 --> 01:23:29,822
are licensed that have, uh, have noise considerations and hours

1179
01:23:29,822 --> 01:23:33,822
of operations. So I think I might disagree with the

1180
01:23:33,843 --> 01:23:39,582
characterization offered. I'm glad to hear, though, that, um, businesses

1181
01:23:39,622 --> 01:23:44,299
are here affirming the value of third avenue. Um, if

1182
01:23:44,299 --> 01:23:47,019
you hear from one or two individuals, you may hear

1183
01:23:47,059 --> 01:23:50,780
that the sky is falling. Um, but I get to

1184
01:23:50,801 --> 01:23:54,540
meet with businesses all the time. They make appointments and

1185
01:23:54,540 --> 01:24:00,140
come visit me in my office. And, uh, and I,

1186
01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:03,500
I'm hearing very good things. I'm hearing about expansion plans.

1187
01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:07,660
I'm hearing about new, new entities coming to third avenue

1188
01:24:08,401 --> 01:24:14,462
looking at these, uh, facilities. And so. Um, and just

1189
01:24:14,563 --> 01:24:16,622
even down the street, if you go to the other

1190
01:24:16,883 --> 01:24:20,302
end of third avenue near eight street, you see a

1191
01:24:20,302 --> 01:24:23,022
little coffee shop that has not very much of a

1192
01:24:23,043 --> 01:24:29,536
kitchen, but they're always full. They have a line. They

1193
01:24:29,576 --> 01:24:32,336
close at 2. 30 or 3 and people wish they

1194
01:24:32,376 --> 01:24:34,896
were open longer. And all of a sudden they started

1195
01:24:34,917 --> 01:24:38,256
improving their business and having more resources. And now they're

1196
01:24:38,256 --> 01:24:41,952
going to open another business somewhere else. Um, I also

1197
01:24:42,293 --> 01:24:46,992
saw the experience of losquates who had the advantage of,

1198
01:24:46,992 --> 01:24:50,512
uh, I think Mr. Rosso calls them parklets. I called

1199
01:24:50,512 --> 01:24:56,791
them a nuisance. Uh, I was disappointed with the few

1200
01:24:56,791 --> 01:25:00,391
businesses that didn't honor their obligations to agree that it

1201
01:25:00,391 --> 01:25:04,771
was a temporary structure. But the majority of the businesses

1202
01:25:04,792 --> 01:25:09,011
agreed and honored and followed what the city manager decided

1203
01:25:09,032 --> 01:25:12,291
to do, not me. I don't have any ability as

1204
01:25:12,291 --> 01:25:17,915
a member of council to go and pick up. These

1205
01:25:18,336 --> 01:25:24,586
parklets that had not honored their obligations. To be frank,

1206
01:25:24,586 --> 01:25:29,469
I'm concerned about the parklets coming back. But staff and

1207
01:25:29,509 --> 01:25:32,589
businesses are working on a plan. And when they come

1208
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:38,989
back, I hope that they are valued assets. I hope

1209
01:25:39,029 --> 01:25:42,509
that there's a fair distribution of them. It's not everybody's

1210
01:25:42,690 --> 01:25:45,869
going to have one. And so I've asked staff to

1211
01:25:45,909 --> 01:25:50,589
verify what will be a fair process in allocating parklets

1212
01:25:50,629 --> 01:25:53,389
on that street. And let's not forget that one of

1213
01:25:53,389 --> 01:25:57,449
the other elements in the district that is lacking, um,

1214
01:25:57,490 --> 01:26:01,229
which Ms. Chuck Acosta, you'll be happy to hear. I've

1215
01:26:01,229 --> 01:26:06,029
been asking for blue parking spaces on the, on third

1216
01:26:06,069 --> 01:26:09,149
avenue for a long time since I joined the council.

1217
01:26:10,632 --> 01:26:14,051
Um, I know that other tenants have come into live

1218
01:26:14,091 --> 01:26:18,611
on third avenue who benefit greatly from having these structures

1219
01:26:18,872 --> 01:26:25,516
that support walkability and movability. In the last decade, we

1220
01:26:25,657 --> 01:26:33,156
improve that whole third avenue with over 21 million dollars.

1221
01:26:33,156 --> 01:26:38,116
This included even the design of the, um, the center

1222
01:26:41,257 --> 01:26:45,636
landscaping and the landscaping that goes along the streets. That

1223
01:26:45,636 --> 01:26:50,676
costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to design to install.

1224
01:26:50,676 --> 01:26:55,556
And now thanks to the community benefits district, maybe maintained,

1225
01:26:55,556 --> 01:26:57,796
uh, for at least the next 20 years of this

1226
01:26:57,836 --> 01:27:03,920
proves to be successful. All in with this, uh, I

1227
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,120
wish everyone well on third avenue. I hope all of

1228
01:27:07,221 --> 01:27:10,480
the business succeed. I hope all of the businesses have

1229
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,317
an opportunity to find the right product. Find the customers

1230
01:27:14,498 --> 01:27:20,042
they're interested in having. And so that's capitalism. I'm very

1231
01:27:20,063 --> 01:27:23,402
proud of the people who are on third avenue are

1232
01:27:23,402 --> 01:27:27,162
thriving. Uh, I wish, as I said, I wish everyone

1233
01:27:27,263 --> 01:27:34,509
well. I spent about nine years going to third avenue,

1234
01:27:34,509 --> 01:27:37,469
almost every other week when Manjytayana was open and I

1235
01:27:37,469 --> 01:27:41,339
was devastated when I saw it close. Uh, because it

1236
01:27:41,339 --> 01:27:48,563
was a community center almost for me. And so I

1237
01:27:48,563 --> 01:27:53,183
know the value of having these kinds of assets. And

1238
01:27:53,183 --> 01:27:56,883
so I just want to wish all of the property

1239
01:27:56,923 --> 01:28:01,164
owners well. And I'm going to make this statement not

1240
01:28:01,185 --> 01:28:05,804
because I minimizing in any way the feedback we get

1241
01:28:05,804 --> 01:28:10,557
from the public. But our staff do not have the

1242
01:28:10,578 --> 01:28:15,037
ability to respond or react or to recharacterize or to

1243
01:28:15,077 --> 01:28:18,797
do anything like that. So I will accept all the

1244
01:28:18,818 --> 01:28:22,557
criticism you want to offer me or any member of

1245
01:28:22,557 --> 01:28:26,877
the dais. But I really value the professionalism that we

1246
01:28:26,898 --> 01:28:30,537
get from our staff and the contributions they make, the

1247
01:28:30,537 --> 01:28:33,677
enormity of their contributions. They make every day to the

1248
01:28:33,717 --> 01:28:37,917
success of the city. And so, uh, I just want

1249
01:28:37,917 --> 01:28:42,477
to invite us to more, to disagree in a manner

1250
01:28:42,517 --> 01:28:45,597
that's more civil, um, to disagree in a manner that

1251
01:28:46,018 --> 01:28:51,037
acknowledges that the staff, when they speak, they speak for

1252
01:28:51,138 --> 01:28:56,435
the city. And, um, I, uh, I really value Mr.

1253
01:28:56,696 --> 01:29:02,595
Graham's advice. I really value the change he's brought to

1254
01:29:02,635 --> 01:29:11,150
the city. And, um, I hope whatever miscommunication or misunderstanding

1255
01:29:11,331 --> 01:29:16,110
or in unintended slide can be corrected because I think

1256
01:29:16,150 --> 01:29:22,430
it's important that, um, that our stop evalued, uh, particularly

1257
01:29:22,430 --> 01:29:25,470
when they're sitting at the dais really representing the city.

1258
01:29:28,454 --> 01:29:32,513
And so I invite all parties to meet, to discuss

1259
01:29:33,334 --> 01:29:39,133
this agreements, um, but, um, I want to apologize, um,

1260
01:29:41,814 --> 01:29:44,593
offense you may have taken, um, because I should have

1261
01:29:44,774 --> 01:29:52,523
intervened and not supported that kind of, uh, characterization. We

1262
01:29:52,544 --> 01:29:56,443
can disagree, um, but let's do so in a manner

1263
01:29:56,443 --> 01:30:01,689
that values everyone. And in that manner, uh, I do

1264
01:30:01,729 --> 01:30:08,169
seek and hope and invite the current leadership, um, which

1265
01:30:08,209 --> 01:30:10,729
I think Mr. Rosso is even a voting member of

1266
01:30:10,769 --> 01:30:13,689
that leadership. If you can speak to the issues that

1267
01:30:13,870 --> 01:30:17,289
Mr. Barker is raising, he might, we might be advantageous

1268
01:30:17,329 --> 01:30:21,289
for all of us in the community to know why

1269
01:30:21,329 --> 01:30:25,049
he is not feeling represented by such an advocate like

1270
01:30:25,230 --> 01:30:30,171
yourself, Mr. Raza. On that agency. You're a member of

1271
01:30:30,432 --> 01:30:34,811
and that you, um, vote in. I'm sure he would

1272
01:30:34,832 --> 01:30:41,642
benefit greatly from having your guidance and advice. Having said

1273
01:30:41,642 --> 01:30:46,522
that, I will, uh, I know my colleagues will probably

1274
01:30:46,543 --> 01:30:50,602
comment as well, but I would be privileged to have

1275
01:30:50,642 --> 01:30:53,642
the opportunity to move this item forward and to move

1276
01:30:53,983 --> 01:30:58,122
the various pieces that we'll be required to initiate the

1277
01:30:58,143 --> 01:31:02,477
process. For the property owners to decide if they're going

1278
01:31:02,477 --> 01:31:05,783
to have this district or not. Thank you very much,

1279
01:31:05,823 --> 01:31:08,356
Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much. I will recognize the

1280
01:31:08,396 --> 01:31:13,606
member from District 4. All right. Thank you. I appreciate

1281
01:31:14,507 --> 01:31:17,046
the work it took to bring this forward. Appreciate the

1282
01:31:17,086 --> 01:31:20,486
public coming out sharing your thoughts with us, your experience

1283
01:31:20,747 --> 01:31:25,766
more importantly with us. Um, and I too, in general,

1284
01:31:25,947 --> 01:31:29,926
support moving forward with this item. Um, community benefits district

1285
01:31:29,966 --> 01:31:32,006
was something that was born out of a subcommittee with

1286
01:31:32,347 --> 01:31:36,486
council member Preciato myself and staff members and several others.

1287
01:31:36,486 --> 01:31:39,686
And so why wouldn't I take the first chance at

1288
01:31:40,267 --> 01:31:44,101
creating a community benefits district. I do have some questions

1289
01:31:44,442 --> 01:31:46,981
and concerns. And in no way am I questioning whether

1290
01:31:47,082 --> 01:31:49,941
or not downtown could benefit from enhanced services. I'm just

1291
01:31:49,941 --> 01:31:54,021
trying to understand what we are committing the city and

1292
01:31:54,021 --> 01:31:56,981
the taxpayers too for the next 20 years. What discretion

1293
01:31:57,802 --> 01:32:00,901
the council has tonight or in the future meeting in

1294
01:32:00,901 --> 01:32:05,381
November. And what safeguards we have once this district is

1295
01:32:05,421 --> 01:32:10,421
formed. And so tonight's action, you know, we're told the

1296
01:32:10,442 --> 01:32:14,421
threshold was met, we're here to basically just approve moving

1297
01:32:14,442 --> 01:32:19,636
forward with the process. Um, yet in the intent, the

1298
01:32:19,636 --> 01:32:23,096
resolution of intent, it does stayed explicitly our intent to

1299
01:32:23,136 --> 01:32:27,576
establish a 20 year district. So my first question is,

1300
01:32:27,616 --> 01:32:30,696
is if the council decided that we wanted a term

1301
01:32:30,736 --> 01:32:34,296
shorter than 20 years, uh, when could we discuss that

1302
01:32:34,717 --> 01:32:38,119
if at all. Well, for that question to our special

1303
01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:41,545
counsel, Phil. Sir. Thank you very much for the questions.

1304
01:32:41,545 --> 01:32:44,985
So, um, you're right tonight's action is really just to

1305
01:32:45,025 --> 01:32:48,185
move the process forward at the public hearing, which will

1306
01:32:48,225 --> 01:32:52,745
be currently scheduled for November 10th. Should the council determine

1307
01:32:52,745 --> 01:32:55,145
to move forward. Uh, the council will have an opportunity.

1308
01:32:56,147 --> 01:32:59,246
If there is no majority protest to either accept the

1309
01:32:59,286 --> 01:33:02,926
management district plan as provided or to make certain modifications

1310
01:33:03,347 --> 01:33:07,427
that would reduce the assessment. Um, and in that reduction,

1311
01:33:07,427 --> 01:33:11,493
you could reduce the term of the assessment. Okay. I

1312
01:33:11,533 --> 01:33:13,413
got a couple more and then I'll be done. Uh,

1313
01:33:14,634 --> 01:33:16,853
and second, you know, the city's going to be taken

1314
01:33:16,893 --> 01:33:19,893
on a significant long - term financial obligation here, approximately

1315
01:33:19,914 --> 01:33:24,853
about 121, 000 in the first year assessments. Um, there's

1316
01:33:24,893 --> 01:33:28,773
also a general benefit payment. And with this, with the

1317
01:33:28,813 --> 01:33:33,333
assessments permitted to rise over time, um, over the course

1318
01:33:33,354 --> 01:33:37,253
of 20 years, I wonder what is the maximum financial

1319
01:33:37,274 --> 01:33:41,332
exposure for the city. Do we have those numbers here

1320
01:33:41,433 --> 01:33:45,025
at this time or can we review those numbers. In

1321
01:33:45,065 --> 01:33:47,472
November. Thank you very much, W. Mayor. We can provide

1322
01:33:47,653 --> 01:33:51,312
those numbers to you. Should you like. I will note

1323
01:33:51,312 --> 01:33:55,952
that the, uh, escalator, the potential escalator, uh, subject to

1324
01:33:55,992 --> 01:33:59,152
a vote of the owner's association. So of the board,

1325
01:33:59,152 --> 01:34:02,272
the representatives of the assessment district. And that in the

1326
01:34:02,312 --> 01:34:04,912
current 10 year district, I'm only aware of two times

1327
01:34:05,253 --> 01:34:08,352
that that has occurred. And it was not the full

1328
01:34:08,373 --> 01:34:14,592
amount that it could be increased. Okay. And then once

1329
01:34:14,693 --> 01:34:17,872
the CBD is established, what authority does a city have

1330
01:34:17,912 --> 01:34:24,432
at all to question performance or reject your modify their

1331
01:34:24,432 --> 01:34:27,792
annual budgets or assessment increases? What oversight do we have

1332
01:34:27,973 --> 01:34:31,552
once this is formed? I'll also refer that question to

1333
01:34:31,552 --> 01:34:34,947
our special counsel. Sure. Thank you. So on an annual

1334
01:34:35,048 --> 01:34:39,107
basis, uh, the owners association has to bring forward the

1335
01:34:39,208 --> 01:34:43,427
annual plan that includes a budget to propose expenditures and

1336
01:34:43,427 --> 01:34:45,559
so forth. And the council at that time will have

1337
01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:49,079
the ability to either approve it, to prove it as

1338
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:52,439
modified, uh, to make changes to reduce it to change

1339
01:34:52,460 --> 01:34:54,679
what the plans are at that time. So you have

1340
01:34:54,719 --> 01:34:58,119
an annual sort of check in. The owners association is

1341
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:00,639
responsible for implementation. They're responsible for the day - to

1342
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:04,119
- day activities. But it's this annual sort of reporting

1343
01:35:04,300 --> 01:35:06,519
and check - in at which you have some discretion

1344
01:35:06,540 --> 01:35:10,359
to make some changes. Okay. I just in general want

1345
01:35:10,380 --> 01:35:15,879
more clarification, more information around what authority, if any, we

1346
01:35:15,900 --> 01:35:18,519
possibly could have here. Because if we're committing to 20

1347
01:35:18,519 --> 01:35:22,599
years, even 10 years, but there's this huge financial obligation

1348
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:26,047
on the city's part. Then what recourse do we have

1349
01:35:26,068 --> 01:35:28,522
if we don't like the way things are going. And

1350
01:35:28,562 --> 01:35:33,002
so just for next time in between, uh, I would

1351
01:35:33,042 --> 01:35:37,686
like more information about that. Um, but again, general here,

1352
01:35:37,686 --> 01:35:39,526
I am happy to move forward with creating our first

1353
01:35:39,547 --> 01:35:42,966
community benefits district. Um, just want to make sure that

1354
01:35:43,067 --> 01:35:47,101
the city's interests are best represented. Sure. And if I

1355
01:35:47,122 --> 01:35:49,421
could, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Just a point of

1356
01:35:49,461 --> 01:35:52,461
clarification. The city's role in improving that annual budget is

1357
01:35:52,501 --> 01:35:55,821
as the imposer of the assessment, not as a property

1358
01:35:56,002 --> 01:35:58,621
owner paying the assessment. So the bit of a different

1359
01:35:58,962 --> 01:36:02,381
role for consideration at that time, but nevertheless, you still

1360
01:36:02,381 --> 01:36:05,901
have that same ability, which is on an annual basis.

1361
01:36:05,901 --> 01:36:08,141
Review the budget and the planned expenditurers and make changes

1362
01:36:08,242 --> 01:36:11,111
at that time as you see fit. Okay. And just

1363
01:36:11,292 --> 01:36:15,271
real quick clarification on the presentation here back on slide

1364
01:36:15,292 --> 01:36:21,342
five. What I didn't see was a board of directors,

1365
01:36:21,342 --> 01:36:25,502
right? Somewhere in between owners, association and staff. Isn't there

1366
01:36:25,502 --> 01:36:28,782
not typically a board of directors? That's, that's a nonprofit.

1367
01:36:29,850 --> 01:36:31,829
That would be the owner's associate. That would be the

1368
01:36:31,869 --> 01:36:36,356
owners association. Okay. All right. Um, other than that, I

1369
01:36:36,396 --> 01:36:39,316
don't have any other questions, but I believe my concerns

1370
01:36:39,356 --> 01:36:42,996
have been, uh, have been expressed and hopefully we can

1371
01:36:43,036 --> 01:36:45,716
come back with that information before or at our next

1372
01:36:45,756 --> 01:36:50,070
meeting. We'd be happy to provide that. Thank you. I

1373
01:36:50,110 --> 01:36:55,775
will now recognize the member from district two. So I

1374
01:36:55,775 --> 01:36:58,255
don't know if one motion will be appropriate or if

1375
01:36:58,255 --> 01:37:01,535
there's multiple motions, but I do move approval of staff

1376
01:37:01,535 --> 01:37:07,311
presentation to initiate the process first to acknowledge. That 34

1377
01:37:07,332 --> 01:37:14,191
percent threshold has been mettion to establish the downtown association

1378
01:37:14,292 --> 01:37:18,671
for 20 years, setting the public hearing for November 10th

1379
01:37:18,852 --> 01:37:21,471
and authorizing the city manager to vote in favor of

1380
01:37:21,492 --> 01:37:24,671
establishing the district for all parcels within the district boundaries

1381
01:37:25,012 --> 01:37:27,882
owned by the city. If I get a second, I'd

1382
01:37:27,882 --> 01:37:30,042
like to make a couple more comments. Yeah. And the

1383
01:37:30,063 --> 01:37:33,162
motion can be one resolution. So I moved all of

1384
01:37:33,162 --> 01:37:42,544
that forward seeking a second. Second. So, um, I like

1385
01:37:42,544 --> 01:37:46,604
using the word off ramps. They help everyone understand. And

1386
01:37:46,604 --> 01:37:50,464
I think after hearing the Deputy Mayors remarks, I'm just

1387
01:37:50,464 --> 01:37:55,104
wondering if both, uh, Mr. Graham and our general count,

1388
01:37:55,104 --> 01:37:58,344
our special counsel can comment on offrams. Cause I think

1389
01:37:58,344 --> 01:38:02,224
it needs to be clear that, um, three years from

1390
01:38:02,325 --> 01:38:07,024
now, something's not going well. Are we able to dissolve

1391
01:38:07,765 --> 01:38:12,784
the whole enterprise? Are we able to take efforts in

1392
01:38:12,885 --> 01:38:16,304
representation of the community or the city's interests? Can you

1393
01:38:16,304 --> 01:38:20,517
clarify, please? Certainly. And we both can answer that question.

1394
01:38:20,517 --> 01:38:24,437
So you're talking about after the district is established and

1395
01:38:24,458 --> 01:38:26,997
being paid. How do you know that things are going

1396
01:38:26,997 --> 01:38:29,797
to continue to run properly, right? And that's the oversight

1397
01:38:29,837 --> 01:38:32,917
role that our special counsel described related to those annual

1398
01:38:32,938 --> 01:38:36,117
reports. He can get into a little bit further detail.

1399
01:38:36,117 --> 01:38:40,277
But effectively the ultimate area of this if things are

1400
01:38:40,277 --> 01:38:44,757
not going well, malfeasance, mismanagement, et cetera would be steps

1401
01:38:44,778 --> 01:38:48,357
related to disestablishing the district. But let's remember that this

1402
01:38:48,778 --> 01:38:50,917
whole state law is set up around one question, which

1403
01:38:50,917 --> 01:38:55,509
is property owners coming together. And assessing themselves. And the

1404
01:38:55,509 --> 01:38:58,069
rules associated with that and how the city plays a

1405
01:38:58,069 --> 01:39:00,229
role in that. In this case, we all are also

1406
01:39:00,269 --> 01:39:02,949
a property owner, but it's the oversight role that I

1407
01:39:02,989 --> 01:39:06,149
believe that you're talking about. And so I'll turn it

1408
01:39:06,149 --> 01:39:08,629
over to our special counsel to add a additional information.

1409
01:39:09,450 --> 01:39:13,029
Sure. Thank you. Um, so there are provisions in the

1410
01:39:13,290 --> 01:39:17,669
property business improvement district law relating to the disestablishment of

1411
01:39:18,090 --> 01:39:21,909
AP bid, um, or a community benefits district. It's usually

1412
01:39:22,890 --> 01:39:26,629
limited to sort of issues with respect to the expenditures

1413
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:28,949
of the funds, whether they've been properly used and things

1414
01:39:28,949 --> 01:39:31,669
like that. And whether the purposes of the district are

1415
01:39:31,709 --> 01:39:35,669
being accomplished. So it would require a certain findings and

1416
01:39:35,709 --> 01:39:37,909
analysis on the part of the city council at that

1417
01:39:37,909 --> 01:39:41,989
time. Um, it's going to be easier because this is

1418
01:39:41,989 --> 01:39:45,829
not a district that's going to issue debt. So there

1419
01:39:45,829 --> 01:39:48,389
aren't going to be these long - term outstanding obligations

1420
01:39:48,410 --> 01:39:52,289
that would need to be satisfied prior to disestablishment. But

1421
01:39:52,330 --> 01:39:55,909
there are specific provisions. They're not very expansive and that

1422
01:39:55,909 --> 01:40:00,549
you can't necessarily just establish the district for any purpose.

1423
01:40:01,430 --> 01:40:03,889
Um, but we can provide more information on the specific

1424
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:07,569
purposes for which you can disestablish if you'd like to.

1425
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:11,489
Well, I, um, more so than that on November 10th

1426
01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:14,009
when this comes back and we vote again, I think

1427
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:18,009
I want to join Deputy Mayor and all of us

1428
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:22,529
in ensuring that the city is able to establish performance

1429
01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:30,129
metrics. And in our collaborations with the organization, responsibility for

1430
01:40:30,150 --> 01:40:35,089
maintaining city assets that are within their purview, uh, is

1431
01:40:35,129 --> 01:40:39,649
something I'd be interested in seeing happen. And then I

1432
01:40:39,670 --> 01:40:43,089
guess I think Mr. Graham describes this to me as

1433
01:40:43,129 --> 01:40:50,696
their operational or their managerial report. Uh, but last week

1434
01:40:50,957 --> 01:40:56,696
when we receive the report that basically concludes their work

1435
01:40:57,197 --> 01:41:02,056
on December 31st, they was prefunctory. We were just receiving

1436
01:41:02,157 --> 01:41:05,496
a formal report and we voted on that. And that

1437
01:41:05,496 --> 01:41:08,296
was the extent. And I think that's where we need

1438
01:41:08,296 --> 01:41:12,456
more clarification from you. Maybe at a future meeting. Because

1439
01:41:12,456 --> 01:41:14,936
then some instances both of you have indicated that they

1440
01:41:14,976 --> 01:41:17,096
need to come and present their plan for next year.

1441
01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:20,439
Uh, they don't have a plan for next year because

1442
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,959
they are ending on December 31st. So when will the

1443
01:41:23,999 --> 01:41:26,439
new plan be presented that we have the ability to

1444
01:41:26,540 --> 01:41:30,599
vote on and then subsequently, when is the annual process

1445
01:41:31,420 --> 01:41:34,439
for that review? Because I think it would be beneficial

1446
01:41:34,540 --> 01:41:38,839
for you to characterize that. The public last week was

1447
01:41:38,860 --> 01:41:43,811
under the impression that it was a performance evaluation. And

1448
01:41:43,912 --> 01:41:47,491
we clarify that in fact was not a performance evaluation,

1449
01:41:47,491 --> 01:41:51,331
but these approval of a budget for the remainder of

1450
01:41:52,632 --> 01:41:56,531
the year. And I think as we develop the staff

1451
01:41:57,592 --> 01:42:00,211
item and staff letter, we need to clarify this is

1452
01:42:00,472 --> 01:42:04,279
approving what they're doing. And if our approval is merely

1453
01:42:04,319 --> 01:42:07,159
to collect the assessments, then it should be stated as

1454
01:42:07,199 --> 01:42:12,439
such. However, if our approval is saying that the plan

1455
01:42:12,940 --> 01:42:15,879
that has been negotiated with the city manager and that

1456
01:42:15,879 --> 01:42:22,119
the city manager is recommending we approve has qualified qualitative

1457
01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:25,959
value in some way where there's measurements or something the

1458
01:42:25,999 --> 01:42:29,314
city manager has taken that. Uh, I think it's important

1459
01:42:29,415 --> 01:42:32,834
that we know, because I think when the public takes

1460
01:42:32,834 --> 01:42:35,874
the time to visit us, they need to know what

1461
01:42:35,895 --> 01:42:39,570
is possible and what is not possible. Um, and today

1462
01:42:41,031 --> 01:42:43,970
what was possible is that we vote on this resolution

1463
01:42:44,631 --> 01:42:47,810
and prepare for that boat. And everyone has a right

1464
01:42:47,850 --> 01:42:49,730
to go out there and talk to those property owners

1465
01:42:49,831 --> 01:42:51,970
and say, this is the greatest thing that ever lived.

1466
01:42:53,568 --> 01:42:56,122
Or this is not. I do want to tell you

1467
01:42:56,323 --> 01:42:58,542
though, that, um, as we think of the rest of

1468
01:42:58,803 --> 01:43:01,502
third Avenue, we're not talking about ice street. I'm thinking

1469
01:43:01,523 --> 01:43:05,742
about third avenue in district four or the Broadway corridor

1470
01:43:06,003 --> 01:43:11,662
or other corridors, um, in districts one, in district three.

1471
01:43:11,662 --> 01:43:14,142
They're going to be looking to this experience to see

1472
01:43:14,403 --> 01:43:20,282
what works, what doesn't work, what to involve. And, um,

1473
01:43:20,403 --> 01:43:25,422
I'd be interested in seeing the organization about businesses of

1474
01:43:25,422 --> 01:43:29,582
commercial businesses and restaurants on third avenue. They have a

1475
01:43:29,622 --> 01:43:32,674
voice that needs to be hurt. And they need to

1476
01:43:32,714 --> 01:43:36,914
be advocates. And so the property owners will have a

1477
01:43:36,914 --> 01:43:40,674
clear role. But what is their role? And I don't

1478
01:43:40,674 --> 01:43:42,994
know if the chamber of commerce can play such a

1479
01:43:42,994 --> 01:43:46,914
role, but it seems to me that, um, business owners

1480
01:43:46,935 --> 01:43:52,194
need to have the ability to speak to the manner.

1481
01:43:52,194 --> 01:43:54,594
A few, two years ago when we voted to change

1482
01:43:54,775 --> 01:43:59,554
how parking meters worked, we heard from actual property owners

1483
01:43:59,975 --> 01:44:04,754
affected and their voice was considered. And technically, um, we

1484
01:44:04,935 --> 01:44:08,514
voted and we had the opportunity to make that update

1485
01:44:08,695 --> 01:44:11,234
based on what our engineers were telling us was the

1486
01:44:11,234 --> 01:44:16,354
best way to allocate parking. And I tend to rely

1487
01:44:16,394 --> 01:44:20,654
on city's staff recommendations for those kinds of things. But

1488
01:44:21,095 --> 01:44:23,394
it was critical that we heard. And I think that

1489
01:44:23,415 --> 01:44:26,994
same property owners here who has now invested in a

1490
01:44:26,994 --> 01:44:29,474
second business, who if you walk by, it is one

1491
01:44:29,474 --> 01:44:34,084
of the most colorful, beautiful spaces on third avenue. And

1492
01:44:34,105 --> 01:44:38,004
it needs to be valued. And so how do businesses

1493
01:44:38,044 --> 01:44:42,324
on third avenue actually get heard? And not through rumors

1494
01:44:42,345 --> 01:44:45,844
or through working with whatever. You have to have a

1495
01:44:45,884 --> 01:44:49,684
formal business organization that speaks to us, speaks to the

1496
01:44:49,705 --> 01:44:56,244
city manager, um, and has conversations about the goals and

1497
01:44:56,345 --> 01:45:00,003
interests that you have. Um, with that, Mr. Mayor, I

1498
01:45:00,003 --> 01:45:03,420
appreciate the opportunity to make comments. And I ask for

1499
01:45:03,601 --> 01:45:07,660
unanimous support and adopting this resolution. Thank you very much.

1500
01:45:07,660 --> 01:45:10,380
Um, and before I call for the vote, I just,

1501
01:45:10,380 --> 01:45:13,820
uh, appreciate everybody's input. We need to be able to

1502
01:45:14,161 --> 01:45:17,500
value our businesses. Uh, we also need to be able

1503
01:45:17,500 --> 01:45:20,860
to make sure that it is very transparent on what

1504
01:45:21,121 --> 01:45:25,420
is happening, um, a 20 year agreement, um, for those

1505
01:45:25,420 --> 01:45:28,620
of you who have a 15 year mortgage is larger

1506
01:45:28,660 --> 01:45:33,420
than people's smaller mortgages, um, but it is a financial

1507
01:45:34,881 --> 01:45:38,460
commitment by the city and all the businesses. And we

1508
01:45:38,460 --> 01:45:42,060
need to make sure that that is being done correctly

1509
01:45:42,641 --> 01:45:46,300
and transparent. Um, also I wanted to say I am

1510
01:45:46,321 --> 01:45:49,580
an advocate for outdoor dining. I do like the parklets

1511
01:45:49,841 --> 01:45:52,540
and we are moving to bring those back and working

1512
01:45:52,540 --> 01:45:55,800
with the businesses on third avenues to get those, um,

1513
01:45:56,081 --> 01:46:00,140
back again, um, as soon as possible so we can,

1514
01:46:00,140 --> 01:46:03,580
uh, expand away to be able to bring people down

1515
01:46:03,761 --> 01:46:08,460
to third avenue, downtown Chulivista to be able to have

1516
01:46:08,481 --> 01:46:12,380
an alternate or a exponential way of being able to

1517
01:46:12,721 --> 01:46:16,620
dine in and enjoy third avenue. With that, Madam Clerk,

1518
01:46:16,620 --> 01:46:20,070
if you can please read the heading. This is item

1519
01:46:20,251 --> 01:46:22,630
7. 2 resolution of the city council of the city

1520
01:46:22,670 --> 01:46:26,390
of Chula Vista, providing preliminary approval of the final assessment

1521
01:46:26,651 --> 01:46:30,950
engineer's report expressing its intention to establish the downtown Chula

1522
01:46:30,971 --> 01:46:33,670
Vista community benefit district for a period of 20 years

1523
01:46:34,491 --> 01:46:43,957
and setting the public hearing on such establishment. Please vote.

1524
01:46:57,319 --> 01:47:02,052
Item passes unanimously. And we will see most of you,

1525
01:47:02,052 --> 01:47:06,389
I think, back November 10th, right? Okay. Um, thank you

1526
01:47:06,410 --> 01:47:10,789
very much. We will now. We will now go ahead

1527
01:47:11,050 --> 01:47:13,749
and, uh, I know we've been going on for almost

1528
01:47:13,770 --> 01:47:16,709
two hours. So we're going to take about a little

1529
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:20,529
bit of a 15 minute break. So everybody can, um,

1530
01:47:20,890 --> 01:47:26,389
go ahead and relax. And, uh, use the, um, facilities

1531
01:47:26,570 --> 01:47:29,589
if needed, uh, we will be back here in approximately

1532
01:47:30,010 --> 01:47:31,109
15 minutes. Thank you.

1533
02:05:26,598 --> 02:05:29,217
If I can have the council come to the dais,

1534
02:05:29,217 --> 02:05:30,897
we're about to restart the council meeting.

1535
02:05:54,254 --> 02:05:57,433
Thank you for everyone. We will now move to item

1536
02:05:58,334 --> 02:06:02,398
7 - 3. And we have Stacey, who will give

1537
02:06:02,398 --> 02:06:08,522
us a great presentation. Good evening, honorable mayor and council

1538
02:06:08,543 --> 02:06:11,162
members. I'm Stacey Kurt, the Director of Housing and Homeless

1539
02:06:11,183 --> 02:06:14,962
Services, and a member of the Homeless Outreach team. So

1540
02:06:15,263 --> 02:06:17,802
we are here for item 7. 3, which is an

1541
02:06:17,842 --> 02:06:22,762
encampment delegated maintenance agreement or an EDMA for short. We

1542
02:06:22,783 --> 02:06:25,882
are asking tonight for your consideration to authorize the city

1543
02:06:25,882 --> 02:06:29,002
manager to enter into this with the California Department of

1544
02:06:29,183 --> 02:06:37,088
Transportation known as Caltrans. So since July of 2021, Caltrans

1545
02:06:37,189 --> 02:06:41,248
has reported the removal of over 26, 000 encampments and

1546
02:06:41,349 --> 02:06:44,928
457, 000 cubic yards of litter and debris along our

1547
02:06:44,949 --> 02:06:50,894
interstate freeway system throughout California. In 2025, Caltrans began entering

1548
02:06:51,075 --> 02:06:55,134
into EDMAs to allow local jurisdictions to more effectively addressing

1549
02:06:55,235 --> 02:06:58,254
campments along state right - of - way and increase

1550
02:06:58,254 --> 02:07:01,934
the availability of resources for uncheltered individuals staying in these

1551
02:07:01,974 --> 02:07:06,406
areas. To date, 13 EDMAs have been entered throughout the

1552
02:07:06,507 --> 02:07:10,911
state. Including the city of San Diego to our north,

1553
02:07:10,951 --> 02:07:15,809
Santa Anna, Riverside, and Ontario. Chulavista first expressed interest in

1554
02:07:15,849 --> 02:07:20,006
an EDMA with Caltrans, nearly a year ago. Due to

1555
02:07:20,006 --> 02:07:23,726
the funding that is used for the program, Caltrans had

1556
02:07:23,726 --> 02:07:26,046
to go through an approval process to open the possibility

1557
02:07:26,547 --> 02:07:29,326
for tool of vista to be able to receive reimbursement

1558
02:07:29,366 --> 02:07:33,966
through an EDMA. And in addition, Caltran's headquarters was developing

1559
02:07:34,147 --> 02:07:37,326
a standard template that was presented to us in late

1560
02:07:37,347 --> 02:07:40,977
April of this year. Since April, the city has been

1561
02:07:40,998 --> 02:07:45,457
working with Caltran's address concerns about specific agreement language that

1562
02:07:45,718 --> 02:07:47,857
would have required us to enter into a service agreement

1563
02:07:47,897 --> 02:07:51,297
with the California Highway Patrol at a bait additional maintenance

1564
02:07:51,318 --> 02:07:56,175
item, such as graffiti. The version that's being presented tonight

1565
02:07:56,916 --> 02:08:00,255
addresses the remaining concerns that staff had and has been

1566
02:08:00,276 --> 02:08:07,636
approved by Caltran's headquarters. Currently, the city is only able

1567
02:08:07,737 --> 02:08:10,596
to enter state right of way to provide outreach resources.

1568
02:08:11,654 --> 02:08:14,753
Under the EDMA, Truly Vista would also receive authority to

1569
02:08:14,854 --> 02:08:19,553
remove encampments and associated litter and debris. The city will

1570
02:08:19,593 --> 02:08:23,633
be required to notify both Caltrans and California Highway Patrol

1571
02:08:23,734 --> 02:08:27,953
prior to any removal and cleanup activities. The agreement provides

1572
02:08:28,054 --> 02:08:33,459
a mechanism for reimbursement. Of expenses related to the cleaning

1573
02:08:33,459 --> 02:08:36,499
up activities, but not for the outreach or law enforcement

1574
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:40,099
time. And the agreement provides the city ability to conduct

1575
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:43,779
outreach and address encampments in the designated EDMA area through

1576
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:50,628
June 30 of 2027. Specifically, the EDMA would cover removal

1577
02:08:50,729 --> 02:08:55,508
and cleanup of encampments along interstate 5 and at I5On

1578
02:08:55,689 --> 02:08:58,388
and off ramps from Main Street in the South to

1579
02:08:58,729 --> 02:09:01,949
E Street and the North. A total of 3. 2

1580
02:09:02,050 --> 02:09:05,069
miles would be covered in up to 200, 000 dollars

1581
02:09:05,250 --> 02:09:08,109
would be reimbursable for the removal of litter and debris

1582
02:09:08,290 --> 02:09:12,669
associated with any accampants. This is the approximate amount Caltrans

1583
02:09:12,709 --> 02:09:15,549
has spent unremoval of encampments and this specified area over

1584
02:09:15,589 --> 02:09:19,844
the past 12 months. Other state highways and freeways would

1585
02:09:19,884 --> 02:09:23,524
still be monitored and maintained for encampments by Caltrans, such

1586
02:09:23,524 --> 02:09:27,364
as state route 54, interstate 805 and state route 125.

1587
02:09:30,604 --> 02:09:34,103
Tonight we're asking for authorization for the city manager to

1588
02:09:34,124 --> 02:09:38,003
enter the EDMA with Caltrans. If approved this evening, the

1589
02:09:38,003 --> 02:09:42,263
agreement would become effective upon execution. The cities concluding an

1590
02:09:42,263 --> 02:09:46,103
RFP process for an on - call contractor or on

1591
02:09:46,103 --> 02:09:49,863
- call contractors for encampment, abatement, and general cleanup services

1592
02:09:50,364 --> 02:09:54,183
that can be utilized for this effort and others. While

1593
02:09:54,204 --> 02:09:56,503
public work staff can be made available for this effort

1594
02:09:56,844 --> 02:09:59,623
in the interim, it is anticipated that contractors would be

1595
02:09:59,623 --> 02:10:04,287
the primary source used for the EDMA. Caltrans has a

1596
02:10:04,308 --> 02:10:09,887
tiered system for addressing encampments, classifying those when an imminent

1597
02:10:09,908 --> 02:10:14,127
danger of life, safety, or infrastructure exists. And those are

1598
02:10:14,127 --> 02:10:20,609
called priority level one and require expeditious removal. Which will

1599
02:10:20,649 --> 02:10:25,496
still primarily be addressed by CALTRANS. Level two encampment maintenance

1600
02:10:25,536 --> 02:10:28,136
will be addressed by the city through the EDMA and

1601
02:10:28,176 --> 02:10:31,096
the service area. The goal of the EDMA is to

1602
02:10:31,096 --> 02:10:34,616
give local authority to areas along our freeway system or

1603
02:10:34,637 --> 02:10:37,256
at entrances and exits where the terrain does not impose

1604
02:10:37,277 --> 02:10:40,856
a danger to staff, and it's easily accessible for from

1605
02:10:40,896 --> 02:10:44,936
streets or furniture roads, while leaving major interchanges such as

1606
02:10:45,037 --> 02:10:49,336
state route 54 and interstate five intersect for CALTRANs to

1607
02:10:49,376 --> 02:10:56,697
continue monitoring. And maintaining. The majority of encampments along interstate

1608
02:10:56,798 --> 02:10:59,977
five inchual Avista qualify as level two, meaning that they

1609
02:11:00,017 --> 02:11:02,777
do not pose an imminent threat to safety or health.

1610
02:11:03,822 --> 02:11:06,681
In these cases, the agreement provides a specific protocol for

1611
02:11:06,702 --> 02:11:10,441
addressing them. This starts approximately two weeks prior to any

1612
02:11:10,542 --> 02:11:14,361
intended cleanup with a request to CALTRANS. During this time,

1613
02:11:14,542 --> 02:11:17,081
outreach to any individuals that live in that area are

1614
02:11:17,262 --> 02:11:22,681
also expected. Seven days prior, notification is required to both

1615
02:11:22,862 --> 02:11:27,052
Caltrans and CHP of the schedule for cleanup activities. After

1616
02:11:27,073 --> 02:11:30,412
the cleanup, the city's responsible for submitting an after -

1617
02:11:30,412 --> 02:11:33,692
action report to Caltrans within a week. And finally, the

1618
02:11:33,793 --> 02:11:37,772
city files for reimbursement. As described, this is not an

1619
02:11:37,793 --> 02:11:41,612
immediate overnight implementation, and CALTRANS is committed to working with

1620
02:11:41,652 --> 02:11:44,572
us. The homeless outreach team has an excellent working relationship

1621
02:11:44,753 --> 02:11:48,412
with Caltrans District 11, and will continue to coordinate and

1622
02:11:48,412 --> 02:11:51,852
assess the effectiveness of the EDMA. As mentioned in the

1623
02:11:51,892 --> 02:11:54,412
staff report, the city has also applied in partnership with

1624
02:11:54,513 --> 02:11:58,412
the county and national city for encampment resolution funds. That

1625
02:11:58,433 --> 02:12:02,332
would cover expenses related to outreach and housing for this

1626
02:12:02,353 --> 02:12:05,692
same area of interstate five as the EDMA if we

1627
02:12:05,692 --> 02:12:09,692
are successful with our application. The leveraging of these two

1628
02:12:09,713 --> 02:12:13,372
resources could be extremely impactful. However, we will not receive

1629
02:12:13,473 --> 02:12:17,212
those funds if we're successful until early in next calendar

1630
02:12:17,252 --> 02:12:22,380
year. No current state funding sources to address encampments reimbursed

1631
02:12:22,380 --> 02:12:25,737
for law enforcement staff time. As with a lot of

1632
02:12:25,758 --> 02:12:30,217
funding opportunities, the timing doesn't quite align on these two.

1633
02:12:30,217 --> 02:12:32,517
However, the opportunity to secure the ED may funds for

1634
02:12:32,517 --> 02:12:35,977
this fiscal year is critical at this time as Calturans

1635
02:12:35,998 --> 02:12:38,937
has indicated that they may be purpose them otherwise since

1636
02:12:38,937 --> 02:12:42,617
they are fiscal year funds for this 26, 27 year.

1637
02:12:45,628 --> 02:12:49,527
Of course, for any life - threatening emergencies, 911 should

1638
02:12:49,567 --> 02:12:53,447
always be called. However, residents should continue to report non

1639
02:12:53,468 --> 02:12:56,807
- emergency encampment and other non - emergency issues along

1640
02:12:56,828 --> 02:12:59,607
the state right - of - way to Caltrans through

1641
02:12:59,607 --> 02:13:04,407
their customer service request portal, which can be accessed online

1642
02:13:04,668 --> 02:13:07,367
or through your smartphone using the QR code on the

1643
02:13:07,367 --> 02:13:11,047
screen. A phone number is also provided, however, reporting through

1644
02:13:11,087 --> 02:13:15,727
the portal is the most effective way. Caltrans will inform

1645
02:13:15,908 --> 02:13:18,767
the city of any reports made in the EDMA service

1646
02:13:18,807 --> 02:13:22,207
area. We appreciate the opportunity to present this to you

1647
02:13:22,247 --> 02:13:26,607
tonight for your consideration. In addition to myself, acting chief

1648
02:13:26,708 --> 02:13:29,487
Van Peak and Public Works Director and Helica Aguilar are

1649
02:13:29,527 --> 02:13:34,683
available for any questions. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk,

1650
02:13:34,683 --> 02:13:38,227
do we have any speakers on this item? Yes, our

1651
02:13:38,227 --> 02:13:42,007
first in - person speaker is John Acosta, followed by

1652
02:13:42,428 --> 02:13:51,700
our remote caller, Robert. First of all, you

1653
02:13:51,700 --> 02:13:56,660
know, this is my concern before regarding the senior population,

1654
02:13:56,660 --> 02:14:01,129
especially at the same with population, it's homeless. And, uh,

1655
02:14:01,970 --> 02:14:04,749
I think you all need to stop pointing the finger

1656
02:14:04,749 --> 02:14:08,829
to somebody else. You're responsibility, your responsibility, cause you're a

1657
02:14:08,829 --> 02:14:13,469
presenting law vista. So those are blaming on your culture,

1658
02:14:13,469 --> 02:14:17,629
other departments. It is your responsibility. So what I will

1659
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:20,649
excuse to get out of your air conditional area, hit

1660
02:14:20,649 --> 02:14:24,989
something greeting your coffee and go and check your area.

1661
02:14:25,090 --> 02:14:31,938
You know, simple that I disable homeless. Seniors. That you

1662
02:14:31,938 --> 02:14:34,438
saw the picture I posted to you. They are laying

1663
02:14:34,438 --> 02:14:37,078
on the floor. And they was less quick when they

1664
02:14:37,099 --> 02:14:40,038
drew what really hot. And I spoke to them, they

1665
02:14:40,038 --> 02:14:43,633
said, have anybody check with you? They said, no. No,

1666
02:14:43,654 --> 02:14:48,193
no, you know, if you want to see another person,

1667
02:14:48,193 --> 02:14:50,913
just go in H and write everybody out of five

1668
02:14:50,934 --> 02:14:54,673
ramp. They said, I say old person. You know, we're

1669
02:14:54,713 --> 02:14:57,955
a jerky, it's a dog there. Usually there. You know,

1670
02:14:57,955 --> 02:15:01,555
opened by East Street or in the, you know, you

1671
02:15:01,555 --> 02:15:04,115
need to go and go over there where they are.

1672
02:15:05,450 --> 02:15:07,349
Go over there. And don't take your clone needs to

1673
02:15:07,349 --> 02:15:10,566
take pictures of your bet. Go by yourselves. You know,

1674
02:15:10,566 --> 02:15:15,046
make it, make a personal item, don't need to make

1675
02:15:15,046 --> 02:15:18,246
it a PR. Domain, so you said a photo op,

1676
02:15:18,246 --> 02:15:21,805
go over there and yourselves and check on homeless. And

1677
02:15:21,845 --> 02:15:23,885
start pointing fingers because like I said, you know, you

1678
02:15:23,885 --> 02:15:26,045
always, but all that's then somebody else department. That's the

1679
02:15:26,045 --> 02:15:31,725
name, your responsibility is your responsibility. You represent your vista.

1680
02:15:31,725 --> 02:15:35,565
Also, posture representative minister. So stop blaming when everybody else.

1681
02:15:35,565 --> 02:15:37,805
The police are wonderful job, you know, it's a wonderful

1682
02:15:37,845 --> 02:15:41,085
job. Thank you for your department for what they do.

1683
02:15:41,085 --> 02:15:44,365
Keeping it safe. But it is still your responsibility regarding

1684
02:15:45,506 --> 02:15:51,085
the homeless. And like I said, growing population seniors, homeless

1685
02:15:52,626 --> 02:15:58,765
growing. There are population disabled seniors to homeless. It's growing.

1686
02:15:58,765 --> 02:16:03,176
So stop blaming somebody else. It raise your responsibility. When

1687
02:16:03,277 --> 02:16:05,896
they say, always cult trends, no, he does in people

1688
02:16:05,936 --> 02:16:09,885
that say, no, not that. They say, chula vista. Keep

1689
02:16:09,906 --> 02:16:12,205
that in mind when everybody decía hombres, soy una visa

1690
02:16:12,245 --> 02:16:17,485
de salud. Somebody else reports to love vista. That's what

1691
02:16:17,506 --> 02:16:22,045
they use. What's where we're known for the homeless crisis?

1692
02:16:22,045 --> 02:16:24,445
En la que se da mezclé buena de miguel mezteco.

1693
02:16:25,506 --> 02:16:28,885
Was you bringing more homeless. Para mi imperio, pues, I

1694
02:16:28,885 --> 02:16:32,765
told you about the beginning. When palomar announced that. That's

1695
02:16:32,765 --> 02:16:35,232
a bad idea. And it's going to get worse. So

1696
02:16:35,293 --> 02:16:37,432
you need to get out of your cars. It's a

1697
02:16:38,733 --> 02:16:42,472
preserve because I know I said, told y'all, it's disability.

1698
02:16:42,512 --> 02:16:44,232
And I hear you're not able to walk. But all

1699
02:16:44,253 --> 02:16:46,221
three of you are able to. You are able to

1700
02:16:46,882 --> 02:16:50,941
go and walk your district and don't take your currency

1701
02:16:50,962 --> 02:16:57,814
tech pictures. Don't use that photo up. Our next caller

1702
02:16:57,835 --> 02:17:01,734
is Robert. Robert, you have been unmuted. Please proceed with

1703
02:17:01,774 --> 02:17:06,941
your comment. Well, thank you, City clerk. I appreciate it.

1704
02:17:08,550 --> 02:17:10,929
You know why I like calling in too? Cause the

1705
02:17:10,969 --> 02:17:14,515
camera goes back onto all you guys. So everybody gets

1706
02:17:14,536 --> 02:17:22,308
to see ya. Right. Yeah. The interesting thing about

1707
02:17:24,729 --> 02:17:29,433
the situation is. Michael and Zooms. I believe it was

1708
02:17:29,454 --> 02:17:34,628
last week was talking about not helping homeless people. Because

1709
02:17:34,668 --> 02:17:38,468
they're going to end up here and she'll vista and

1710
02:17:38,468 --> 02:17:40,548
then we're going to have more. And then we have

1711
02:17:40,588 --> 02:17:46,015
another item. About removing the homeless people from state lands,

1712
02:17:46,015 --> 02:17:49,869
not to a visceral end. And so, you know, in

1713
02:17:49,970 --> 02:17:52,669
some, like in some favor, like the state doesn't help

1714
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:55,229
you guys. And you guys never push, but you guys

1715
02:17:55,410 --> 02:17:59,389
will push back on Trump till the days end, right?

1716
02:17:59,490 --> 02:18:02,250
But you guys never push back on the state. And

1717
02:18:02,250 --> 02:18:06,650
so, you know, how much it more is it going

1718
02:18:06,671 --> 02:18:09,010
to cost us in to now that we're going to

1719
02:18:09,010 --> 02:18:14,450
accept more from Imperial Beach. And then we're going to

1720
02:18:14,511 --> 02:18:17,370
use this 200, 000 to clear them off of state

1721
02:18:17,391 --> 02:18:23,477
property. Right. No. I mean, it's an industry. It's the

1722
02:18:23,578 --> 02:18:28,917
homeless industrial complex. It's like the military industrial complex, right?

1723
02:18:29,258 --> 02:18:32,397
Their industry's not regard. So that's why you have to

1724
02:18:32,397 --> 02:18:35,157
be super aware of some of these things that you

1725
02:18:35,197 --> 02:18:39,797
guys are entangling yourselves with because I mean, even at

1726
02:18:39,898 --> 02:18:41,957
200, 000 dollars, how much should we already put in

1727
02:18:42,058 --> 02:18:46,672
and how much are they paying back, right. So, you

1728
02:18:46,672 --> 02:18:48,292
know, I think the state has let you guys down

1729
02:18:49,113 --> 02:18:53,087
as leaders. And so the best avenue to hold the

1730
02:18:53,268 --> 02:18:55,487
state officials is for you guys to do something about

1731
02:18:55,508 --> 02:18:58,587
it and start speaking up to the state about, you

1732
02:18:58,587 --> 02:19:02,767
know, the problems that they're having on their land that,

1733
02:19:02,767 --> 02:19:09,224
you know, just an idea. I guess. Waiting for my

1734
02:19:09,325 --> 02:19:16,131
30 second cue. But. Um, you know, I do appreciate

1735
02:19:17,032 --> 02:19:22,691
what, uh, the, the departments do do, right? Um, the

1736
02:19:22,952 --> 02:19:27,571
police department, uh, the homeless services within the housing. Do

1737
02:19:27,571 --> 02:19:29,771
you think it's a little split with the housing? I

1738
02:19:29,771 --> 02:19:33,251
would have preferred had this appropriate leaf done from the

1739
02:19:33,432 --> 02:19:37,651
police department. Because I think that's who's in charge of

1740
02:19:38,072 --> 02:19:42,329
like, you know, enforcing laws. And so to make sure

1741
02:19:42,329 --> 02:19:46,889
that, uh, laws and constitutional things are always remembered even

1742
02:19:46,929 --> 02:19:51,849
with, uh, populations and need or the most vulnerable of

1743
02:19:51,849 --> 02:19:54,009
us. I'm not here saying that we should abuse people.

1744
02:19:54,009 --> 02:19:56,809
I'm saying we should protect people. And that's why I

1745
02:19:56,809 --> 02:19:59,369
don't think that the presentation should have been done by

1746
02:19:59,409 --> 02:20:01,929
that department, but the enforcement department department. So thank you.

1747
02:20:02,670 --> 02:20:09,238
Thank you. Your time is concluded. Madam Clerk, are there

1748
02:20:09,278 --> 02:20:13,333
any more speakers. That concludes the speakers on the item.

1749
02:20:14,522 --> 02:20:17,941
Thank you very much. I chill of vista has been

1750
02:20:17,962 --> 02:20:21,245
a regional leader in getting homeless off the streets. I'm

1751
02:20:21,426 --> 02:20:25,325
proud that we created one of the best homeless outreach

1752
02:20:25,365 --> 02:20:31,005
teams around. I want to thank our police department and

1753
02:20:31,005 --> 02:20:34,205
all the PERT members and all the nonprofits that have

1754
02:20:34,546 --> 02:20:39,485
collaborated with us. Uh, we created the innovative Oti bridge

1755
02:20:39,586 --> 02:20:43,085
shelter with a high barrier to entry and a wraparound

1756
02:20:43,106 --> 02:20:47,645
services to get unhoused permanent housing. Uh, that's why we

1757
02:20:47,666 --> 02:20:50,365
have other cities looking to see what we have done

1758
02:20:51,026 --> 02:20:57,005
and how they can go ahead and do something similar.

1759
02:20:57,426 --> 02:21:00,365
I'm proud that I authored and got passed one of

1760
02:21:00,365 --> 02:21:05,554
the strictest homeless encampment bands in the county. These actions

1761
02:21:05,895 --> 02:21:11,794
have created major positive results in decreasing the city's homeless

1762
02:21:11,794 --> 02:21:20,114
population by the last count. This encampment delegated maintenance agreement

1763
02:21:20,135 --> 02:21:25,554
with Caltrans is the next significant step in getting homeless

1764
02:21:25,594 --> 02:21:31,624
off the streets. Unhoused members move to state property and

1765
02:21:31,664 --> 02:21:35,704
off city property to void these effective scars that we

1766
02:21:35,965 --> 02:21:41,901
passed. Then they moved on the state property to freeway

1767
02:21:42,082 --> 02:21:46,859
on and off ramps. Prior, what would happen is we

1768
02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:51,259
would call Caltrans, uh, their focus has always been on

1769
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:59,639
transportation and safety and transportation. And as Stacey went ahead

1770
02:22:00,380 --> 02:22:03,940
and mentioned. When we would call Caltrans, it would not

1771
02:22:03,940 --> 02:22:07,526
be a priority for them. Uh, they would go ahead

1772
02:22:07,627 --> 02:22:10,806
and tell us, well, we'll be out there in several

1773
02:22:10,846 --> 02:22:13,967
months. But that wasn't good enough for us. Because obviously

1774
02:22:15,268 --> 02:22:17,967
as we had been able to get homeless out of

1775
02:22:17,967 --> 02:22:22,367
our park's, be able to get homeless off the streets.

1776
02:22:22,367 --> 02:22:27,327
There were many encampments that were coming on, especially our

1777
02:22:28,148 --> 02:22:31,448
five freeway on our on and off ramps. And you

1778
02:22:31,448 --> 02:22:40,321
saw the pictures. These were unsafe. Unhealthy. And created major,

1779
02:22:40,361 --> 02:22:48,992
major safety. And crime issues. This agreement again, uh, gives

1780
02:22:49,032 --> 02:22:54,192
us the ability to actually allow our chulovista hot team,

1781
02:22:54,192 --> 02:22:58,367
homeless outreach team to go on state property. And remove

1782
02:22:58,548 --> 02:23:02,770
encampments in a timely manner. And get reimbursed by the

1783
02:23:02,810 --> 02:23:07,970
state of California for up to 200, 000 dollars this

1784
02:23:08,010 --> 02:23:13,465
fiscal year. This again is the next step in us

1785
02:23:13,465 --> 02:23:17,630
being able to meet those challenges. Um, I want to

1786
02:23:17,630 --> 02:23:23,750
thank Stacey Kirch and her, um, leadership and the housing

1787
02:23:23,931 --> 02:23:27,952
and homeless department. I want to thank Anna Fox from

1788
02:23:28,213 --> 02:23:31,872
Caltrans. I still remember being on those meetings with her

1789
02:23:32,613 --> 02:23:36,688
and pushing this. I want to thank Cal City's, uh,

1790
02:23:36,688 --> 02:23:40,388
for them helping push the bill to get it passed

1791
02:23:40,649 --> 02:23:45,011
up in Sacramento. I want to thank our homeless outreach

1792
02:23:45,011 --> 02:23:49,491
team, uh, for their diligence every day at being able

1793
02:23:49,531 --> 02:23:54,611
to go ahead and engage our homeless and looking for

1794
02:23:54,712 --> 02:23:58,915
opportunities to get them off the streets. I want to

1795
02:23:58,915 --> 02:24:04,875
thank our Otai bridge shelter for providing that wraparound services

1796
02:24:05,856 --> 02:24:10,715
and for allowing over a hundred since we opened over

1797
02:24:11,856 --> 02:24:16,528
a hundred unhoused individuals to find permanent housing. And I

1798
02:24:16,709 --> 02:24:20,688
want to thank all our nonprofit partners who have worked

1799
02:24:20,728 --> 02:24:25,248
with us to be able to be partners in getting

1800
02:24:25,509 --> 02:24:28,928
homeless off the streets. As we know, homelessness is original

1801
02:24:29,109 --> 02:24:33,143
issue. And I'm very, very proud that we've created those

1802
02:24:33,324 --> 02:24:37,623
strong relationships to be able to help each other get

1803
02:24:38,044 --> 02:24:41,717
homeless off the streets. Uh, because this is such an

1804
02:24:41,898 --> 02:24:44,757
important item for me. I'm going to go ahead and

1805
02:24:44,858 --> 02:24:48,737
make the motion before we let everybody else speak. And

1806
02:24:48,737 --> 02:24:51,549
I'm looking for a second. I have a motion a

1807
02:24:51,549 --> 02:24:55,069
second and I very much appreciate that. And I will

1808
02:24:55,170 --> 02:24:58,109
now go, uh, go down the list. The first member

1809
02:24:59,330 --> 02:25:03,309
who's put in their speaker slip is member Preciato from

1810
02:25:03,730 --> 02:25:09,638
district two. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I have a couple

1811
02:25:09,678 --> 02:25:16,198
of questions. So, um, as you know, fires seem to

1812
02:25:16,198 --> 02:25:19,618
be another complication that we have on the freeways. And

1813
02:25:19,618 --> 02:25:26,518
I don't know if fire prevent center prior challenges can

1814
02:25:26,619 --> 02:25:30,678
be calculated as a one emergence, one status type of

1815
02:25:30,779 --> 02:25:36,765
encountment. Or two. Uh, I realized that the vocus is

1816
02:25:36,805 --> 02:25:40,285
on the five, but I think we also spend a

1817
02:25:40,285 --> 02:25:45,165
lot of resources contributing or supporting, putting out some of

1818
02:25:45,165 --> 02:25:49,885
these fires along those freeways. And so I'm just wondering

1819
02:25:51,266 --> 02:25:56,045
if there's an interrelationship between encampments that are identified as

1820
02:25:56,626 --> 02:26:03,565
ones and fire risks, particularly as they grow and scale,

1821
02:26:03,565 --> 02:26:09,325
um, sometimes they look like habitation has expanded beyond just

1822
02:26:09,325 --> 02:26:12,845
a tent, but, um, it just looks like multiple units

1823
02:26:13,586 --> 02:26:18,205
almost, um, and so I'm very concerned about fires. It's

1824
02:26:18,205 --> 02:26:20,605
like an issue that I'm concerned about if, in fact,

1825
02:26:20,645 --> 02:26:23,325
it proves to be the kind of rainy season we

1826
02:26:23,426 --> 02:26:30,380
are expecting. Um, I reign incidents, significant rate incidents are

1827
02:26:30,420 --> 02:26:33,420
going to pose a risk to those individuals as they

1828
02:26:34,321 --> 02:26:38,749
are habitating on the freeway. And then the last point

1829
02:26:38,789 --> 02:26:43,309
that I want to make, um, we've made, obviously, we

1830
02:26:43,349 --> 02:26:45,789
have a lot of things that we've experienced the last

1831
02:26:45,829 --> 02:26:47,709
three years, three and a half years that I've been

1832
02:26:47,749 --> 02:26:52,189
here. But I continue to hear from our residents that,

1833
02:26:52,189 --> 02:26:59,249
um, unhoused are connecting with communities. Uh, and I, I

1834
02:26:59,270 --> 02:27:03,809
appreciate that many individuals from a humane point of view

1835
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:10,109
don't desire to harm them or wish them ill, but

1836
02:27:10,109 --> 02:27:12,989
they prefer that they not be in their communities. I'm

1837
02:27:12,989 --> 02:27:18,296
talking about as far west as hilltop. As far west

1838
02:27:18,397 --> 02:27:25,016
as Melrose. Pardon me east as Hilltop and Melrose. I

1839
02:27:25,357 --> 02:27:29,976
was with, um, well, depending on your proximity to other

1840
02:27:30,557 --> 02:27:36,536
corridors like the Sweetwater watershed, you may be challenged by

1841
02:27:37,117 --> 02:27:40,536
this. So two things. I know that today we're voting

1842
02:27:40,557 --> 02:27:43,416
on this contract and I'm just wondering in terms of

1843
02:27:43,837 --> 02:27:47,976
coordination. So when, uh, and by the way, I hope

1844
02:27:48,016 --> 02:27:50,616
you get the second grant and that the timing works

1845
02:27:50,637 --> 02:27:54,856
out. But in the meantime, I'm wondering what the coordination

1846
02:27:54,896 --> 02:28:02,376
may be when an encampment is, shall we say relocated,

1847
02:28:02,376 --> 02:28:05,816
uh, where is that relocation happening and how do we

1848
02:28:06,077 --> 02:28:10,296
ensure that our quality of life in West chillivista is

1849
02:28:10,336 --> 02:28:17,496
unaffected by these significant, um, resettlement activities I want to

1850
02:28:17,517 --> 02:28:21,925
suggest. And of course we know, um, that while it

1851
02:28:21,946 --> 02:28:26,965
may be, it may help everyone divine somebody to blame

1852
02:28:27,386 --> 02:28:31,125
it. The reality is that, um, there is no one

1853
02:28:32,026 --> 02:28:36,150
specific person to blame. Um, I think it's just, uh,

1854
02:28:36,431 --> 02:28:40,490
a fact of our society that we have this condition

1855
02:28:41,391 --> 02:28:44,970
and those who find themselves in them will get help.

1856
02:28:44,970 --> 02:28:47,770
And those who want help will get help and those

1857
02:28:47,770 --> 02:28:53,720
who are helped get more help. But those are my

1858
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:58,360
three issues. The fire and the future emergency activities and

1859
02:28:58,381 --> 02:29:02,360
how we'll be judged. If they're ones or twos in

1860
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:08,840
our communication with Caltrons, uh, second, um, if in fact,

1861
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:16,172
um, we do have two. Encampment cleanup quote unquote, how

1862
02:29:16,172 --> 02:29:21,372
will that be coordinated with our team so that, um,

1863
02:29:21,653 --> 02:29:26,032
we don't, uh, experience a negative impact on West Chill

1864
02:29:26,032 --> 02:29:32,693
of Vista neighborhoods. And number three, I am interested in

1865
02:29:34,554 --> 02:29:41,353
how. This can be integrated or coordinated even more, um,

1866
02:29:41,874 --> 02:29:44,873
I know that there are seniors and even disabled, but

1867
02:29:46,114 --> 02:29:50,253
they will review. Oh, they will refuse our care. I

1868
02:29:50,274 --> 02:29:53,693
appreciate that. I've learned that from Stacey and her team

1869
02:29:53,874 --> 02:29:59,738
over time. And I'll end with this. I know I've

1870
02:29:59,738 --> 02:30:03,498
asked some questions and I'm hoping to get staff comment.

1871
02:30:03,498 --> 02:30:07,018
But, um, I don't feel many of us have the

1872
02:30:07,039 --> 02:30:11,178
training or the qualifications to engage, um, or that the

1873
02:30:11,218 --> 02:30:14,178
city anticipates that a member of council is going to

1874
02:30:14,178 --> 02:30:18,626
be providing direct services to an unhoused person. And I

1875
02:30:18,626 --> 02:30:21,186
don't know if the attorney can help us with the

1876
02:30:21,287 --> 02:30:25,346
liability that that creates when we don't allow our law

1877
02:30:25,346 --> 02:30:28,786
enforcement teams and the other interdisciplinary teams that have been

1878
02:30:28,967 --> 02:30:35,666
assembled to provide the service that we just simply engage.

1879
02:30:35,767 --> 02:30:40,273
I've seen people that don't look like they're approachable. Um,

1880
02:30:40,534 --> 02:30:43,233
and so even if I was under the assumption that

1881
02:30:43,273 --> 02:30:48,113
I could do or improve for one second, I'm concerned

1882
02:30:48,153 --> 02:30:51,233
that I might get hurt. I create liabilities for the

1883
02:30:51,254 --> 02:30:54,550
city. I might hurt the person if I have to

1884
02:30:54,571 --> 02:30:59,490
defend myself. And so I'm just very cautious about, um,

1885
02:31:00,571 --> 02:31:05,830
uh, thinking that members of the dais, um, have somehow

1886
02:31:06,171 --> 02:31:11,750
a responsibility to engage the in - house in a

1887
02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:14,790
manner other than in public forums. Or as they seek

1888
02:31:14,830 --> 02:31:18,777
us out. Now that's different. But if we seek them

1889
02:31:18,817 --> 02:31:22,697
out, um, I think we are intruding. I'm just wondering

1890
02:31:22,718 --> 02:31:26,377
if the city manager, uh, the director of housing and

1891
02:31:26,417 --> 02:31:30,217
homeless services or the city attorney can advise us on

1892
02:31:32,078 --> 02:31:36,217
proper approaches that we should have as members of council

1893
02:31:36,558 --> 02:31:40,750
because it's easy. To, um, announce what we should be

1894
02:31:40,771 --> 02:31:45,470
doing, but it's harder to restrain yourself from taking what

1895
02:31:45,491 --> 02:31:48,430
should otherwise be a natural event is helping other people.

1896
02:31:48,430 --> 02:31:50,750
That's not a problem. But are we doing the right

1897
02:31:50,931 --> 02:31:52,990
thing when we do it if we don't do it

1898
02:31:53,030 --> 02:31:57,030
correctly or if we don't know what we're doing? In

1899
02:31:57,030 --> 02:31:58,910
any case, I just wanted to comment on that. Thank

1900
02:31:58,910 --> 02:32:05,331
you. Thank you very much. Um, yeah, this item is

1901
02:32:05,352 --> 02:32:09,091
not about us going down and, you know, getting homeless

1902
02:32:09,131 --> 02:32:13,251
off the streets. Obviously it's an agreement with, uh, Caltrans.

1903
02:32:13,251 --> 02:32:16,371
But I will go ahead and allow Stacey to answer

1904
02:32:16,411 --> 02:32:20,525
your questions. Thank you very much, though. Okay. Thank you,

1905
02:32:20,565 --> 02:32:25,405
Council members. Um, so the first item was around fires.

1906
02:32:25,405 --> 02:32:27,165
And whether they qualify as a level one or a

1907
02:32:27,165 --> 02:32:31,885
level two. So as was mentioned, CALTRAN's primary role is

1908
02:32:31,925 --> 02:32:35,325
to keep traffic flowing. Um, and so level one is

1909
02:32:35,346 --> 02:32:40,125
really a danger that could impede traffic flow and the

1910
02:32:40,125 --> 02:32:45,005
safety of that. Or a person in their proximity to

1911
02:32:45,045 --> 02:32:49,885
the traffic. So, um, somebody that's near an underpass that

1912
02:32:49,925 --> 02:32:54,605
has danger of sliding down into the freeway, um, if

1913
02:32:54,605 --> 02:32:58,925
the threat to structures that CAL trans maintain. So those

1914
02:32:58,925 --> 02:33:02,685
are all level one. It's not reflective of necessarily the

1915
02:33:02,725 --> 02:33:05,485
activity that's going on in the encampment, but more its

1916
02:33:05,485 --> 02:33:10,125
proximity and danger to traffic and themselves. So, um, however,

1917
02:33:10,546 --> 02:33:14,045
with that, we have been taking a lot closer look

1918
02:33:14,226 --> 02:33:20,605
at statistics around fire related to encampments. And those, some

1919
02:33:20,605 --> 02:33:24,685
statistics were actually put into the encampment resolution fund application

1920
02:33:24,725 --> 02:33:28,045
that we made along with calls for service from our

1921
02:33:28,306 --> 02:33:30,765
police department. So that is something that over the past

1922
02:33:31,186 --> 02:33:34,125
year and a half or so we have incorporated into

1923
02:33:35,186 --> 02:33:39,405
our grant applications. And certainly we work directly with our

1924
02:33:39,586 --> 02:33:43,885
emergency services manager. And all the efforts that they have

1925
02:33:44,066 --> 02:33:48,125
for brush removal and prevention of fires. And so we

1926
02:33:48,146 --> 02:33:51,525
look at grant opportunities with them. Um, we're going to

1927
02:33:51,826 --> 02:33:53,965
be part of a group looking at the al ninho

1928
02:33:53,986 --> 02:33:57,165
that we're expecting. Um, and the resulting weather. And so

1929
02:33:57,506 --> 02:34:00,765
we work very closely. They are part of the homeless

1930
02:34:00,786 --> 02:34:04,525
outreach team, the fire department, whether ambulatory service. And also

1931
02:34:04,706 --> 02:34:08,285
other emergency services sit at the table with us and

1932
02:34:08,386 --> 02:34:12,605
discuss these issues on a regular basis. Um, just one

1933
02:34:12,605 --> 02:34:16,765
example around rain. So we did have, uh, tropical storm

1934
02:34:17,106 --> 02:34:20,685
several years ago. And we uplifted in coordination of the

1935
02:34:20,725 --> 02:34:25,245
emergency services, uh, an extra shelter. It was before our

1936
02:34:25,245 --> 02:34:28,685
shelter was open. And we used hotel vouchers to be

1937
02:34:28,685 --> 02:34:31,405
able to house people. We actually use the polymorm hotel

1938
02:34:31,586 --> 02:34:33,725
that's going to be polymer point now, because we had

1939
02:34:33,765 --> 02:34:36,205
just purchased it. So we got a little creative with

1940
02:34:36,205 --> 02:34:39,645
that. And the hotel, uh, where we actually end process

1941
02:34:39,906 --> 02:34:42,845
of, um, purchasing it and the hotel year was kind

1942
02:34:42,866 --> 02:34:45,805
enough to allow us to make that arrangement with him.

1943
02:34:45,805 --> 02:34:49,485
So, um, so we're creative when we need to be,

1944
02:34:49,485 --> 02:34:51,965
but we're also prepared and working with our emergency services.

1945
02:34:53,133 --> 02:34:57,912
To try to prevent, um, anybody, uh, being displaced during,

1946
02:34:58,013 --> 02:35:03,550
during any type of, uh, natural disaster. Um, so, um,

1947
02:35:03,991 --> 02:35:06,690
the other question that you had was around relocation of

1948
02:35:06,791 --> 02:35:12,370
encampments. The fact is that these persons that are unsheltered

1949
02:35:12,951 --> 02:35:16,290
along the interstate five freeway are already in and out

1950
02:35:16,290 --> 02:35:20,210
of our community consistently. Many of the people that we

1951
02:35:20,391 --> 02:35:24,130
see today in that area actually were people that were

1952
02:35:24,170 --> 02:35:27,230
living along industrial boulevard at one point, especially in the

1953
02:35:27,351 --> 02:35:30,130
polymer area. There's a lot of people we still know

1954
02:35:30,631 --> 02:35:33,330
from that area that are now living along that I

1955
02:35:33,370 --> 02:35:36,370
- five area. There are also people that have moved

1956
02:35:36,391 --> 02:35:39,490
down here during activities at the city of San Diego

1957
02:35:39,671 --> 02:35:44,210
has conducted along their interstate system. So, um, we expect

1958
02:35:44,210 --> 02:35:47,970
that some people likely will return to city of San

1959
02:35:47,970 --> 02:35:52,530
Diego. Um, and then others that we probably already know,

1960
02:35:52,530 --> 02:35:57,170
um, we will continue to offer resources for them. The

1961
02:35:57,210 --> 02:36:00,290
encampment resolution fund grant that we've applied for would actually

1962
02:36:00,330 --> 02:36:05,410
pay for outreach and housing services specific to that population.

1963
02:36:05,410 --> 02:36:07,490
So we are hopeful that we'll be able to couple

1964
02:36:07,671 --> 02:36:11,810
these, these opportunities together to really have a great impact

1965
02:36:12,471 --> 02:36:16,822
and get people into housing in the next year. I

1966
02:36:16,862 --> 02:36:20,534
hope that answers all of them. Thank you. And with

1967
02:36:20,534 --> 02:36:25,614
regard to our engagement with the Unhouse, a matter of

1968
02:36:25,755 --> 02:36:30,862
service providers. Yeah. And there may be other, other, other

1969
02:36:30,902 --> 02:36:35,422
thoughts around this too, but generally we advise anybody to

1970
02:36:35,843 --> 02:36:39,262
refer them to the homeless outreach team and allow our

1971
02:36:39,603 --> 02:36:42,942
police department and our trained officers and our PERC clinician

1972
02:36:43,443 --> 02:36:48,222
and our housing staff to engage with them. Um, we

1973
02:36:48,243 --> 02:36:52,062
have protocols even in my office, uh, and how we

1974
02:36:52,083 --> 02:36:55,742
engage with unsheltered individuals when they come to our office

1975
02:36:55,763 --> 02:37:00,622
for services. So certainly defer you to the experts on

1976
02:37:00,662 --> 02:37:03,822
that matter, um, specifically. And I think our city attorney

1977
02:37:03,862 --> 02:37:07,221
may have something to add. Yeah. Just, just to add

1978
02:37:07,242 --> 02:37:11,461
upon that, um, this particular agreement requires a certain amount

1979
02:37:11,461 --> 02:37:14,581
of coordination with the state. And so that type of

1980
02:37:14,581 --> 02:37:17,861
coordination is best left with city staff. Uh, I would

1981
02:37:17,861 --> 02:37:21,201
not recommend that an individual council member attempt to, um,

1982
02:37:21,722 --> 02:37:26,021
uh, engage in any, uh, activities that would constitute city

1983
02:37:26,021 --> 02:37:28,101
action related to this agreement. Um, so I think that's

1984
02:37:28,282 --> 02:37:31,301
best left for city staff. Um, not only are there

1985
02:37:31,341 --> 02:37:35,741
potential risk to yourselves, but also potential, um, violations of

1986
02:37:35,802 --> 02:37:39,061
this agreement and potential harm to others as well. So

1987
02:37:39,402 --> 02:37:42,661
I would recommend that those types of encampment removal activities

1988
02:37:42,701 --> 02:37:50,488
be left to city staff. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

1989
02:37:50,488 --> 02:37:53,368
you. I will now recognize the member from District 2.

1990
02:37:55,399 --> 02:37:59,983
I mean, three, excuse me. Thank you, Mrs. Curtis and

1991
02:37:59,983 --> 02:38:05,343
staff. Um, I know you guys have been working diligently

1992
02:38:05,383 --> 02:38:07,794
on this. Um, I know it's been a source of

1993
02:38:07,834 --> 02:38:11,492
frustration. Uh, for staff and the hot team and police

1994
02:38:11,593 --> 02:38:15,888
and firefighters. Because crime along the freeways, um, I think

1995
02:38:15,888 --> 02:38:18,768
the majority of the fires in West Chilivista are along

1996
02:38:18,789 --> 02:38:22,208
the trolley lines and along the encampments on the exits

1997
02:38:22,229 --> 02:38:27,328
and on ramps. And, um, you know, I, my observation

1998
02:38:27,328 --> 02:38:29,088
is going up and down San Yo County up to

1999
02:38:29,128 --> 02:38:31,808
five is, we're one of those communities that we don't

2000
02:38:31,848 --> 02:38:36,390
get usually attention first. Usually see the same type of

2001
02:38:36,491 --> 02:38:40,310
encampments along body or logan chicano park area closer to

2002
02:38:40,350 --> 02:38:44,230
downtown San Diego. And then from E Street all the

2003
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:46,230
way down to Main Street in our community. You really

2004
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:49,170
don't see that. North County communities where there are, uh,

2005
02:38:49,451 --> 02:38:51,830
a lot of homeless folks as well. So this is,

2006
02:38:51,830 --> 02:38:55,270
this is an absolute step forward. Um, do you have

2007
02:38:55,270 --> 02:38:58,230
a couple of questions. Do we have, Zaha team, do

2008
02:38:58,230 --> 02:39:01,455
we have an estimate. Give or take of how many

2009
02:39:01,796 --> 02:39:06,495
unshelter folks we have living between Main Street and East

2010
02:39:06,516 --> 02:39:08,655
Street along and off ramps. So we have a rough

2011
02:39:08,756 --> 02:39:15,283
estimate. It really varies, but around 50 is typically the

2012
02:39:15,304 --> 02:39:19,203
number that we use for any purposes of grants or

2013
02:39:19,243 --> 02:39:22,483
anything else in what we've counted kind of historically off

2014
02:39:22,483 --> 02:39:25,415
and on. And the hot team, uh, I think you

2015
02:39:25,415 --> 02:39:27,755
explained it when you're speaking to accounts from, but a

2016
02:39:27,776 --> 02:39:33,275
Seattle is this particular group of Uncelter folks, uh, that

2017
02:39:33,315 --> 02:39:36,235
give or take 50 people, um, did you say that

2018
02:39:36,656 --> 02:39:40,875
we have tried offering services and shelters and they've denied

2019
02:39:40,915 --> 02:39:44,635
services? Or how has that gone? Sure. Our homeless outreach

2020
02:39:44,635 --> 02:39:50,395
team is constantly every day offering services. Um, and so,

2021
02:39:50,395 --> 02:39:54,235
um, some of the unsheltered in that area may have

2022
02:39:54,275 --> 02:39:59,435
accepted services, but have since, um, returned into that area.

2023
02:39:59,435 --> 02:40:03,495
Uh, but certainly we continue to offer those services. Um,

2024
02:40:03,696 --> 02:40:06,795
and this will give us an opportunity to, to have

2025
02:40:06,816 --> 02:40:11,934
more contact, more frequently. And just so the public is

2026
02:40:11,974 --> 02:40:14,894
aware. So anyone's watching in the gallery or out at

2027
02:40:14,894 --> 02:40:21,614
home. Is it going to be done in phases a

2028
02:40:21,614 --> 02:40:23,214
certain off ramp into the next and to the north

2029
02:40:23,315 --> 02:40:26,414
is going to be happens simultaneously? How would that phasing

2030
02:40:26,454 --> 02:40:31,272
work. And what will we do with unsheltered folks who

2031
02:40:31,373 --> 02:40:34,072
are stating in those camps? I'll say example hot team

2032
02:40:34,112 --> 02:40:39,032
shows up and there's say 12 unsheltered folks on polymer.

2033
02:40:40,286 --> 02:40:44,985
What happens within those two three hours when staff is

2034
02:40:44,985 --> 02:40:49,284
there, hot team, per clinicians. Walk us through what that

2035
02:40:49,324 --> 02:40:53,044
looks like. Say for example, there's 12 unsheltered people there.

2036
02:40:53,084 --> 02:40:57,082
What does that look like? Sure. So, um, the phasing

2037
02:40:57,183 --> 02:41:00,122
probably will depend a little bit. Initially, it might be

2038
02:41:00,122 --> 02:41:02,762
a little bit different than if we are a successful,

2039
02:41:02,762 --> 02:41:06,682
the ERF grants. There are kind of some successful models

2040
02:41:06,863 --> 02:41:11,362
from the ERF. Programs that have been utilized throughout the

2041
02:41:11,463 --> 02:41:15,522
county already. So they have a specific implementation when they

2042
02:41:15,623 --> 02:41:18,802
are implementing their ARF funds. Um, but for right now,

2043
02:41:18,842 --> 02:41:21,202
I think it's going to be, um, just a combination

2044
02:41:21,242 --> 02:41:24,002
of working with our hot team, our public works department

2045
02:41:24,743 --> 02:41:27,682
and establishing what, what makes the most sense for, for

2046
02:41:27,863 --> 02:41:30,562
cleanup and where those priority areas need to be as

2047
02:41:30,562 --> 02:41:33,362
we, as we do start the work, uh, also working

2048
02:41:33,362 --> 02:41:37,522
with CAL trans very closely to identify the areas of

2049
02:41:37,623 --> 02:41:40,482
greatest need and other things that might be going on,

2050
02:41:40,482 --> 02:41:43,922
um, in that, you know, in that area along I

2051
02:41:43,962 --> 02:41:48,082
- five. Specifically, you mentioned about what is it going

2052
02:41:48,082 --> 02:41:51,602
to look like? So, um, as I mentioned, two weeks

2053
02:41:51,623 --> 02:41:54,722
prior is when everything is supposed to start according to

2054
02:41:54,762 --> 02:41:59,122
our contract. And so that's when, I mean, outreach is

2055
02:41:59,122 --> 02:42:01,682
constantly going on, but it will be ramped up during

2056
02:42:01,703 --> 02:42:06,482
that two week period. And we're going out there notifying

2057
02:42:06,503 --> 02:42:08,962
people to weeks prior, Hey, we're going to be cleaning

2058
02:42:08,962 --> 02:42:12,562
up here. We would like you to take resources and

2059
02:42:12,602 --> 02:42:14,962
working with them over that period of time before that

2060
02:42:15,063 --> 02:42:18,642
actual cleanup happens. Um, depending on whether people are still

2061
02:42:18,743 --> 02:42:21,122
present at the time of cleanup or not will depend

2062
02:42:21,162 --> 02:42:23,602
on how involved our hot team is at that particular

2063
02:42:23,943 --> 02:42:28,082
moment, um, oftentimes what we find is that people do

2064
02:42:28,263 --> 02:42:32,162
move prior to a larger cleanup. And so there may

2065
02:42:32,202 --> 02:42:35,202
not be residents. Um, they may have accepted services already

2066
02:42:35,863 --> 02:42:38,722
or they may have already moved different area before we

2067
02:42:38,743 --> 02:42:41,842
come in for the actual cleanup. But the homeless outreach

2068
02:42:41,882 --> 02:42:44,722
team is always going to be available as needed for

2069
02:42:44,823 --> 02:42:49,442
resources. So say, um, say seven of them leave voluntarily

2070
02:42:49,463 --> 02:42:52,722
within those two weeks. And the five that just for

2071
02:42:52,722 --> 02:42:57,574
whatever reason didn't leave. There with the lack of a

2072
02:42:57,574 --> 02:43:02,934
better term. They're forcibly removed. So does do our teams

2073
02:43:02,955 --> 02:43:07,685
and crew maintenance physically. Tear down their tents. Do they

2074
02:43:07,685 --> 02:43:10,565
tell them you got to move them? You have to

2075
02:43:10,586 --> 02:43:13,565
walk in this direction or that direction. I kind of

2076
02:43:13,706 --> 02:43:16,366
want to understand how that looks. What does it feel

2077
02:43:16,366 --> 02:43:19,406
like? Like are they encouraged to walk down industrial? They'd

2078
02:43:19,406 --> 02:43:22,606
encourage to go south. How does that work? Is there

2079
02:43:23,107 --> 02:43:25,560
if there was five there. Where do they go from

2080
02:43:25,560 --> 02:43:27,960
there if they refuse services? Yeah. I mean, I think

2081
02:43:28,061 --> 02:43:30,500
it depends on the area and I can't speak, you

2082
02:43:30,500 --> 02:43:33,480
know, specifically to anyone, but generally, I mean, we're going

2083
02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:35,080
to try to direct them in the most safe travel

2084
02:43:35,661 --> 02:43:39,000
path, um, for them. And then, um, as far as

2085
02:43:39,901 --> 02:43:44,360
who, how they encounter with them, um, that our desire

2086
02:43:44,360 --> 02:43:47,160
is to never have to use force. Right. Um, and

2087
02:43:47,200 --> 02:43:50,520
I think rarely, that really end that ends up happening.

2088
02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:53,080
People, um, they know when we're coming, right? Cause we've

2089
02:43:53,080 --> 02:43:55,800
been out there for two weeks telling them, um, people

2090
02:43:55,981 --> 02:43:59,800
tend to cooperate with us. Um, and the day of

2091
02:44:00,061 --> 02:44:04,040
typically what our team will do is let them know,

2092
02:44:04,040 --> 02:44:05,960
like gather what you want to take with you. The

2093
02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:09,060
rest of it will get disposed of or stored. Um,

2094
02:44:09,421 --> 02:44:12,840
in accordance with the requirements of the agreement. And so,

2095
02:44:12,840 --> 02:44:16,520
um, that typically there's not any issues and people are

2096
02:44:16,560 --> 02:44:21,291
compliant. I really appreciate the explanation. So the public can

2097
02:44:21,331 --> 02:44:24,811
understand because this is really, it's very complicated. I know

2098
02:44:24,811 --> 02:44:28,251
that, um, there's a lot of compassionate individuals who worked

2099
02:44:28,251 --> 02:44:31,831
for the hot team and law enforcement and firefighters. And

2100
02:44:31,831 --> 02:44:34,171
your whole team is we're showing compassion. We're trying to

2101
02:44:34,171 --> 02:44:36,171
show love. We're trying to give people the opportunity out

2102
02:44:36,211 --> 02:44:40,331
the streets detox, um, job referrals, trying to connect with

2103
02:44:40,371 --> 02:44:42,691
their loved ones, try to connect with their families. So

2104
02:44:42,691 --> 02:44:46,651
all these complexities and the dynamics of really getting unsheltered

2105
02:44:46,691 --> 02:44:51,691
people off the street and beautifying or help encouraging Caltrans

2106
02:44:51,691 --> 02:44:54,091
to beautify or on and off ramps. I want the

2107
02:44:54,131 --> 02:44:59,291
public to really understand that it's very complicated. And there's,

2108
02:44:59,291 --> 02:45:01,931
I hate using their term, or right answers, but the

2109
02:45:02,432 --> 02:45:05,771
variables that happen on the spot or that day and

2110
02:45:05,952 --> 02:45:08,331
given the ability, um, to go out there several times

2111
02:45:08,352 --> 02:45:11,051
within two weeks before and saying, Hey, guys, we have

2112
02:45:11,051 --> 02:45:14,891
to find another place to live. We have, we have,

2113
02:45:14,931 --> 02:45:18,091
we have beds available for you right now. If you

2114
02:45:18,091 --> 02:45:20,491
need help getting off the streets, uh, if you have

2115
02:45:20,491 --> 02:45:22,891
an addiction you're trying to kick. So I really want

2116
02:45:23,072 --> 02:45:25,211
the public to understand all the work you're doing with

2117
02:45:25,232 --> 02:45:27,671
Kurtz and the hot team and our law enforcement, uh,

2118
02:45:27,872 --> 02:45:30,971
that we're a city that demonstrates compassion. And we're doing

2119
02:45:31,011 --> 02:45:34,891
everything we can to provide shelter for everyone in chill

2120
02:45:34,891 --> 02:45:37,531
of Vista, um, to keep our city safe. So I

2121
02:45:37,552 --> 02:45:41,371
really appreciate, um, understanding your patience and answering those questions

2122
02:45:42,272 --> 02:45:45,291
to help especially the residents of district two and four

2123
02:45:45,712 --> 02:45:47,451
understand what we're really trying to do as a community

2124
02:45:47,632 --> 02:45:49,371
in the city. Thank you so much. I yield back.

2125
02:45:50,740 --> 02:45:55,882
I will recognize the member from District 1. First of

2126
02:45:55,882 --> 02:45:58,202
all, I want to thank you, Stacey and our PD.

2127
02:45:59,935 --> 02:46:05,334
I know how difficult it is sometimes to enforce, but

2128
02:46:05,334 --> 02:46:11,114
also be compassionate and be mindful that the sense of

2129
02:46:11,135 --> 02:46:15,914
urgency to help them as well and to transition them.

2130
02:46:15,914 --> 02:46:19,034
And I appreciate you mentioning that there's two weeks notice

2131
02:46:20,015 --> 02:46:24,972
ahead of time. I know this issue very well. Um,

2132
02:46:25,153 --> 02:46:27,852
from working in the city of San Diego. We encountered

2133
02:46:27,873 --> 02:46:34,012
this in downtown. Very, very often, especially on the ramps.

2134
02:46:34,012 --> 02:46:38,918
And especially because people, constituents don't care. Our constituents don't

2135
02:46:38,939 --> 02:46:42,398
care whose job it is. They care about the results.

2136
02:46:43,446 --> 02:46:47,025
And even if we were paying for it and not

2137
02:46:47,065 --> 02:46:49,745
getting any kind of reimbursement, I would just say go

2138
02:46:49,745 --> 02:46:55,829
ahead and do it. Because this is an urgent matter.

2139
02:46:55,829 --> 02:46:59,829
And we've seen so many issues arise in other cities.

2140
02:46:59,829 --> 02:47:03,866
Health concerns. And just, I just think it's about humanity

2141
02:47:03,887 --> 02:47:08,086
as well. Um, forcing people to listen to us. And

2142
02:47:08,086 --> 02:47:09,866
I know you're going to struggle with it. But you

2143
02:47:09,906 --> 02:47:13,466
have such a sense of compassion when you address them.

2144
02:47:13,466 --> 02:47:15,606
And I really want to thank you for that. Um.

2145
02:47:17,259 --> 02:47:19,718
I want to ask you what happens if the cost

2146
02:47:19,739 --> 02:47:26,016
exceed 200, 000 before June 30th and 2027. Yeah. So

2147
02:47:26,277 --> 02:47:28,736
we're certainly going to try our best not to exceed

2148
02:47:28,757 --> 02:47:31,696
the 200, 000 dollars and just be strategic with how

2149
02:47:31,717 --> 02:47:35,856
we do the cleanups, ensuring that we, you know, if

2150
02:47:35,856 --> 02:47:38,976
the opportunity to do multiple in a particular day or

2151
02:47:39,016 --> 02:47:42,736
two in sequence, um, and what other jurisdictions have found

2152
02:47:42,997 --> 02:47:47,136
is that at the first couple of months you're doing,

2153
02:47:47,136 --> 02:47:50,176
you know, it's a slow kind of start, but then

2154
02:47:50,216 --> 02:47:52,576
you start really ramping up. You're going to see kind

2155
02:47:52,576 --> 02:47:55,376
of a large increase in the number of cleanups. And

2156
02:47:55,376 --> 02:47:59,136
then it kind of teeters off again as residents recognize

2157
02:47:59,176 --> 02:48:02,336
that, um, that's not an area that they can stay

2158
02:48:02,357 --> 02:48:07,376
in any longer. Um, and so we would anticipate being

2159
02:48:07,376 --> 02:48:10,976
able to stay within the funds, but, um, if not,

2160
02:48:10,976 --> 02:48:14,096
I think that, you know, we have some commitment here

2161
02:48:15,157 --> 02:48:18,736
from city management that we're going to ensure that we're,

2162
02:48:18,736 --> 02:48:21,936
you know, fulfilling our obligations under the contract through June

2163
02:48:21,957 --> 02:48:25,972
30th of 2027. I'm not going to be repetitive in

2164
02:48:25,972 --> 02:48:31,572
what everyone has said on this dies. There's a great

2165
02:48:31,593 --> 02:48:35,252
amount of support for everything we're doing as a city.

2166
02:48:35,252 --> 02:48:37,652
And this is just taking a step forward. I'm more

2167
02:48:37,652 --> 02:48:41,332
than happy to, I see Caltrans often at the Sand

2168
02:48:41,332 --> 02:48:44,292
DAG meetings. I'm more than happy to advocate for more

2169
02:48:44,332 --> 02:48:47,732
funding for more activeness on their behalf. Um, but this

2170
02:48:47,753 --> 02:48:52,452
is a big step in the right direction, especially like

2171
02:48:52,492 --> 02:48:56,532
it was mentioned on the dais with the rains coming.

2172
02:48:56,532 --> 02:48:59,012
And, you know, we just want to get people sheltered.

2173
02:48:59,012 --> 02:49:02,132
We want to transition people properly and also keep the

2174
02:49:02,233 --> 02:49:04,372
traffic and the community safe. So thank you for that.

2175
02:49:07,304 --> 02:49:10,163
Thank you very much. I will recognize the member from

2176
02:49:10,424 --> 02:49:14,999
District 4. Oh, motion to approve the DMA. We already

2177
02:49:15,020 --> 02:49:18,599
did the motion. You seconded it. And let's take, let's

2178
02:49:18,620 --> 02:49:21,159
take the vote. Let's call the question. Yeah. Um, I

2179
02:49:21,199 --> 02:49:25,319
just want to make some, uh, final questions. Um, I,

2180
02:49:25,319 --> 02:49:30,519
I again, um, Stacey, our police, uh, police with the

2181
02:49:30,860 --> 02:49:33,559
homeless outreach team. Um, you know, one of the first

2182
02:49:33,660 --> 02:49:37,159
things when homelessness became, uh, an issue and we created

2183
02:49:37,180 --> 02:49:40,839
the homeless outreach team. I did multiple right alongs. I

2184
02:49:40,940 --> 02:49:45,399
was there being able to see what the challenges were.

2185
02:49:45,399 --> 02:49:49,879
And it's incredibly challenging. But our hot teams with the

2186
02:49:50,060 --> 02:49:53,479
perk clinicians do such a great job of being able

2187
02:49:53,479 --> 02:49:58,199
to have compassion and giving people a path to get

2188
02:49:58,239 --> 02:50:02,199
off the street. Unfortunately, not everybody wants to do that.

2189
02:50:02,199 --> 02:50:04,279
Uh, but I've seen it where they build that relationship

2190
02:50:05,020 --> 02:50:08,839
for several months. And then when it's time, when that

2191
02:50:08,879 --> 02:50:11,319
person says that they have enough and want to get

2192
02:50:11,359 --> 02:50:15,159
help, uh, we've seen it where they've been able to

2193
02:50:15,260 --> 02:50:18,359
then work with a hot team to get off the

2194
02:50:18,380 --> 02:50:23,139
streets. And that was incredibly neat. I've done several, uh,

2195
02:50:23,340 --> 02:50:28,039
tours of the Otai bridge shelter, um, it's an amazing,

2196
02:50:28,039 --> 02:50:32,759
uh, innovative program, uh, doing the pallet shelters was just

2197
02:50:32,860 --> 02:50:36,599
incredible, uh, because we didn't want to do exactly what

2198
02:50:36,620 --> 02:50:40,579
was always happening and just having a big tent, um,

2199
02:50:40,700 --> 02:50:43,319
because when you have a big tent and people fall

2200
02:50:43,319 --> 02:50:45,719
asleep, they can have their stuff stolen or they can

2201
02:50:45,759 --> 02:50:49,239
potentially be assaulted. And we went ahead and we created

2202
02:50:50,300 --> 02:50:53,639
an innovative way with the pallet shelters to be able

2203
02:50:53,639 --> 02:50:57,079
to allow people who are unhoused to have a place

2204
02:50:57,180 --> 02:50:59,959
where they can stay, they can lock the door. They

2205
02:50:59,959 --> 02:51:03,239
can feel safe and they can keep their belongings in

2206
02:51:03,279 --> 02:51:07,719
a safe place. It was incredible. As well as many

2207
02:51:07,980 --> 02:51:12,086
homeless have a pet. And if you have a dog,

2208
02:51:12,086 --> 02:51:17,206
you can actually bring the pet in to our bridge

2209
02:51:17,206 --> 02:51:21,766
shelter. Whereas many of the other shelters don't allow pets.

2210
02:51:22,261 --> 02:51:26,480
And then also just our relationship with so many of

2211
02:51:26,480 --> 02:51:30,080
the nonprofits. And I've been to the San Diego rescue

2212
02:51:30,120 --> 02:51:34,640
mission multiple times. I have to say that they love,

2213
02:51:34,640 --> 02:51:37,040
uh, Chulavist and our hot team and have such a

2214
02:51:37,040 --> 02:51:41,520
great respect and collaboration. Um, so with that, I know

2215
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:44,400
we have a motion in a second. Uh, Madam Clerk,

2216
02:51:44,400 --> 02:51:47,492
if you can please read the heading. This is item

2217
02:51:47,673 --> 02:51:49,892
7. 3 resolution of the city council of the city

2218
02:51:49,892 --> 02:51:52,692
of Chula Vista authorizing the city manager to enter into

2219
02:51:52,793 --> 02:51:56,292
an encampment delegated maintenance agreement with the California Department of

2220
02:51:56,393 --> 02:52:00,612
Transportation for a reimbursalable amount in fiscal year 2026 27

2221
02:52:01,113 --> 02:52:04,372
of up to 200, 000 dollars and appropriate funds, for

2222
02:52:04,412 --> 02:52:06,213
fist vote required. Please vote.

2223
02:52:24,421 --> 02:52:28,765
Item carries unanimously. 50. I know, uh, we went all

2224
02:52:28,786 --> 02:52:31,325
along for a little longer of a ride. So I'm

2225
02:52:31,325 --> 02:52:33,165
going to go ahead and allow everybody to take about

2226
02:52:33,266 --> 02:52:36,285
a five minute break if they want to go ahead

2227
02:52:37,426 --> 02:52:39,565
and, uh, go to the restroom. And then we'll come

2228
02:52:39,605 --> 02:52:43,366
back and we'll close out the meeting. Thank you.

2229
02:57:48,500 --> 02:57:52,028
We will now move to item 74. And we have

2230
02:57:52,449 --> 02:57:55,788
our police chief to go ahead and talk about that.

2231
02:57:56,567 --> 02:58:01,030
Do we have a presentation. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening,

2232
02:58:01,070 --> 02:58:03,990
Honorable Mayor and Council. And yes, the police smart does

2233
02:58:04,030 --> 02:58:07,350
have a presentation tonight. It's going to be the chill

2234
02:58:07,350 --> 02:58:10,710
of us to police prop 64 grant presentation, and I

2235
02:58:10,710 --> 02:58:15,110
want to introduce Sergeant Patrick White. He's a supervisor overseas

2236
02:58:15,291 --> 02:58:18,790
our special investigations unit. And Sergeant White will be doing

2237
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:23,054
the presentation tonight. So Sergeant White. Good evening, honorable mayor

2238
02:58:23,094 --> 02:58:25,534
and members of a city council. The item before you

2239
02:58:25,574 --> 02:58:29,374
today is approval of our proposition 64 grant from the

2240
02:58:29,475 --> 02:58:33,232
California BSCC that was awarded to the police department. I'll

2241
02:58:33,232 --> 02:58:35,632
provide an overview of the grant and explain how the

2242
02:58:35,733 --> 02:58:41,805
funds will be used. All right, so what is this

2243
02:58:41,906 --> 02:58:46,045
grant? The proposition 64 public health and safety grant program

2244
02:58:46,546 --> 02:58:49,485
is administered by the California Board of State and Community

2245
02:58:49,906 --> 02:58:54,931
Corrections. Notice BSCC. The purpose of the grant is to

2246
02:58:54,931 --> 02:58:58,851
provide funding to local governments to assist with law enforcement,

2247
02:58:58,872 --> 02:59:04,138
fire protection, youth prevention, public health, and environmental protection. Tied

2248
02:59:04,138 --> 02:59:07,820
to the legalization of cannabis. It's important to note recent

2249
02:59:07,820 --> 02:59:13,420
updates require that BSCC prioritize grant awards for local jurisdictions

2250
02:59:13,460 --> 02:59:22,009
targeting illegal and illicit cannabis operations, such as tulipesta. So

2251
02:59:22,009 --> 02:59:24,249
the police department is fortunate to be selected once again

2252
02:59:24,249 --> 02:59:26,969
for this grant opportunity from the state. The total grand

2253
02:59:26,969 --> 02:59:29,449
amount is just over 3. 2 million dollars and covers

2254
02:59:29,470 --> 02:59:32,309
of five year period. For this new grant, the city

2255
02:59:32,349 --> 02:59:35,189
manager's office will serve as the lead public agency or

2256
02:59:35,189 --> 02:59:38,129
LPA. Which means they will be the primary contact for

2257
02:59:38,230 --> 02:59:42,866
BSCC. If approved, this will be our third PROP 64

2258
02:59:43,047 --> 02:59:45,586
grant. The grant continues a program funded by our two

2259
02:59:45,626 --> 02:59:48,466
- prior grants known as cohort two and cohort three

2260
02:59:48,887 --> 02:59:51,506
and builds upon our experience and accomplishments from the prior

2261
02:59:51,546 --> 02:59:57,295
grants. As a core three is ongoing, the PD is

2262
02:59:57,295 --> 03:00:00,255
met or exceeded all the grant goals to date. Just

2263
03:00:00,255 --> 03:00:03,615
a few highlights. There's 42 inspections of our legal cannabis

2264
03:00:03,655 --> 03:00:07,615
dispensaries. 10 illegal on licensed cannabis dispensaries and illegal delivery

2265
03:00:07,636 --> 03:00:10,836
services were shut down. Those operators were arrested or faced

2266
03:00:10,876 --> 03:00:14,196
ongoing criminal charges and literally thousands of pounds of cannabis

2267
03:00:14,537 --> 03:00:18,820
and other illegal drugs have been seized. All right, so

2268
03:00:18,820 --> 03:00:21,180
what are the goals, along with your support this evening

2269
03:00:21,681 --> 03:00:25,420
and our partnership with SBCS in Sandag, our project goals

2270
03:00:25,460 --> 03:00:28,700
are. Number one, cannabis business compliance. This is done through

2271
03:00:28,881 --> 03:00:33,020
inspections of our legal marijuana dispensaries and includes business training,

2272
03:00:33,060 --> 03:00:38,554
product analysis, and minor decoy operations. Second goal, illegal cannabis

2273
03:00:38,575 --> 03:00:42,314
enforcement. This is done by our proactive investigations into illegal

2274
03:00:42,335 --> 03:00:46,154
marijuana dispensaries, illegal delivery services, and smoke shop inspections to

2275
03:00:46,194 --> 03:00:50,903
identify those selling cannabis and other illegal products. These unregulated

2276
03:00:50,943 --> 03:00:54,743
businesses not only operate illegally. They sell marijuana in illegal

2277
03:00:54,764 --> 03:01:00,031
drugs to the youth of Julivestown. Third goal youth safety

2278
03:01:00,052 --> 03:01:02,591
and officer training. The PDU will promote youth safety and

2279
03:01:02,612 --> 03:01:05,791
enhance officer readiness by training officers. How to identify and

2280
03:01:05,831 --> 03:01:10,152
investigate juvenile cannabis - related cases. As well as general

2281
03:01:10,152 --> 03:01:14,113
education of cannabis laws and regulations. And the fourth and

2282
03:01:14,153 --> 03:01:18,033
final goal youth prevention and intervention. This extremely important goal.

2283
03:01:18,848 --> 03:01:23,353
Reduces youth access to cannabis. SBCS will provide diversion, prevention,

2284
03:01:23,353 --> 03:01:26,885
and intervention services to two of us to youth. This

2285
03:01:26,925 --> 03:01:33,928
includes counseling, cannabis education, family engagement. Community service opportunities and

2286
03:01:33,928 --> 03:01:40,070
community prevention messaging. In addition to the excellent project goals

2287
03:01:40,110 --> 03:01:42,870
that were just outlined this new grant funding also covers

2288
03:01:43,051 --> 03:01:47,333
full salary benefits of a police detective. Over time, funding

2289
03:01:47,354 --> 03:01:51,778
to conduct business inspections and minor decoy operations. Two detective

2290
03:01:51,799 --> 03:01:54,258
vehicles and one van, which is needed to transport all

2291
03:01:54,258 --> 03:01:57,458
that evidence. And critical officer safety equipment such as body

2292
03:01:57,479 --> 03:02:03,040
armor for my detectives. Lastly, accepting this grant has no

2293
03:02:03,141 --> 03:02:08,200
fiscal impact to the general fund. And with that, we

2294
03:02:08,341 --> 03:02:12,320
respectfully recommend adopting the resolution accepting the grant award as

2295
03:02:12,360 --> 03:02:15,521
listed. Thank you for your time this evening. Chief Peak

2296
03:02:15,561 --> 03:02:17,441
and I are available at Hans or any questions that

2297
03:02:17,481 --> 03:02:20,932
you may have. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do

2298
03:02:20,932 --> 03:02:26,616
we have any speakers. We have one remote caller. Robert,

2299
03:02:26,616 --> 03:02:35,670
you have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment. Robert.

2300
03:02:36,857 --> 03:02:40,036
We can't hear you. Please make sure that you're unmuted

2301
03:02:40,076 --> 03:02:40,836
on your device.

2302
03:02:52,586 --> 03:03:00,984
Robert. Was the only caller that we had on that

2303
03:03:01,005 --> 03:03:04,046
item. Okay, thank you very much. I will now recognize

2304
03:03:04,227 --> 03:03:08,579
the member from District 4. All right, thank you. I

2305
03:03:08,680 --> 03:03:14,166
support this item. I appreciate. Staffing this forward pursuing a

2306
03:03:14,267 --> 03:03:17,446
more than 3. 2 million dollar grant without having an

2307
03:03:17,446 --> 03:03:20,547
impact to our general fund. I know that it supports

2308
03:03:20,587 --> 03:03:27,340
legitimate enforcement and compliance needs also providing SPCS. With 710,

2309
03:03:27,601 --> 03:03:33,100
000 for youth prevention and intervention. At the same time,

2310
03:03:34,161 --> 03:03:39,260
I know from being an educator of 26 plus years,

2311
03:03:39,441 --> 03:03:41,020
that we get the most bang for our buck when

2312
03:03:41,060 --> 03:03:44,060
we put our money into youth prevention when it comes.

2313
03:03:44,335 --> 03:03:48,554
To all of the things that they face out there,

2314
03:03:48,554 --> 03:03:50,514
right? We get most bang for our buck there. So

2315
03:03:51,215 --> 03:03:55,994
I also think we need to remember the original promise

2316
03:03:56,255 --> 03:04:01,774
of Prop 64. It was sold on youth prevention programs.

2317
03:04:04,457 --> 03:04:08,542
At a high percentage, like 60 percent of it. To

2318
03:04:08,542 --> 03:04:12,382
be spent on youth programs. And only 20 percent would

2319
03:04:12,422 --> 03:04:15,742
be spent on enforcement That's how it was sold in

2320
03:04:16,563 --> 03:04:19,422
2000, what, 15 or 16. And I remember it, because

2321
03:04:19,422 --> 03:04:21,702
it was an exciting moment, like, wow, we're going to

2322
03:04:21,702 --> 03:04:26,739
actually invest money into our youth. By legalizing marijuana. And

2323
03:04:26,779 --> 03:04:31,059
for somebody such as myself, that was just as involved.

2324
03:04:31,059 --> 03:04:32,979
I think it's important for us to try to keep

2325
03:04:33,080 --> 03:04:36,259
that promise. And so I would ask that the next

2326
03:04:36,259 --> 03:04:39,699
time that we apply for our grant here, if we

2327
03:04:39,699 --> 03:04:46,339
could make prevention and youth programming the primary investment, also

2328
03:04:46,339 --> 03:04:50,099
while still including enforcement, of course, because that was part

2329
03:04:50,139 --> 03:04:54,099
of course part of the original intent of 64 monies.

2330
03:04:54,099 --> 03:04:58,739
And so city manager, I know you're obviously listening to

2331
03:04:58,779 --> 03:05:01,539
me. If we could do that the next year, when

2332
03:05:01,539 --> 03:05:03,139
we apply for this grant, if we could try to

2333
03:05:03,179 --> 03:05:07,059
keep with that original promise of more youth prevention and

2334
03:05:07,099 --> 03:05:10,899
programs, I would really appreciate us trying to take that

2335
03:05:11,000 --> 03:05:17,501
approach. Yes? Just to clarify, it would just be as

2336
03:05:17,501 --> 03:05:19,661
part of the next grant application process, which it sounds

2337
03:05:19,701 --> 03:05:21,741
like might be more than a year out. So we

2338
03:05:21,741 --> 03:05:23,261
would just more than you go out. It sounds like

2339
03:05:24,162 --> 03:05:26,461
two years, probably two years just for the grant cycle.

2340
03:05:27,045 --> 03:05:33,024
Um, unfamiliar. Are we able to modify the current grant.

2341
03:05:35,549 --> 03:05:38,248
In any way? Yeah, deputy mayor, there's always an opportunity

2342
03:05:38,429 --> 03:05:40,648
too. I don't have the specifics right now. I'd have

2343
03:05:40,648 --> 03:05:44,168
to look into it, but we can remodify the budget.

2344
03:05:44,168 --> 03:05:48,248
But again, priority was given because we're an agency that

2345
03:05:48,288 --> 03:05:51,288
enforces illicit marijuana as well. And I completely understand your

2346
03:05:51,309 --> 03:05:55,073
point and respect it. Thank you. Thank you. If you

2347
03:05:55,094 --> 03:05:56,513
could take a look into that and get back to

2348
03:05:56,553 --> 03:05:59,313
us at some point, that'd be great if not, then

2349
03:05:59,313 --> 03:06:01,393
when we reapply in two years. Thank you, Deputy. I

2350
03:06:01,393 --> 03:06:05,306
appreciate approach. Thank you. Thank you. I will recognize the

2351
03:06:05,327 --> 03:06:11,461
member from District 2. I'm happy to move approval of

2352
03:06:11,501 --> 03:06:14,581
accepting the grant. But if I get a second, I'll

2353
03:06:14,682 --> 03:06:17,541
speak to a couple of issues. Okay. You have a

2354
03:06:17,541 --> 03:06:23,415
second. The first issue that I'm interested in is along

2355
03:06:23,455 --> 03:06:27,495
the lines of what the deputy mayor has introduced. I

2356
03:06:27,495 --> 03:06:31,655
think it's a critical that we seek out, if not

2357
03:06:31,695 --> 03:06:35,095
from prop 64, from other venues. And that we be

2358
03:06:35,135 --> 03:06:43,815
seen proactive. We've heard public speakers raise issues or concerns.

2359
03:06:44,556 --> 03:06:51,075
About cannabis consumption and the impacts of cannabis consumption. But

2360
03:06:52,076 --> 03:06:56,615
I decided to speak on this issue more so because

2361
03:06:56,716 --> 03:07:01,175
I've seen, at least in chillista, what appears to be

2362
03:07:01,196 --> 03:07:05,815
a reorganization of our cannabis retail industry. And I'm just

2363
03:07:05,916 --> 03:07:11,095
wondering, uh, if the city manager, well, the grants suggest

2364
03:07:11,116 --> 03:07:14,295
that there's some review of business practices and I don't

2365
03:07:14,295 --> 03:07:17,255
know if that is just complying with distance from the

2366
03:07:17,596 --> 03:07:20,615
street and that kind of business practice. Or if you

2367
03:07:20,636 --> 03:07:24,935
could elaborate on what the business practices, is it compliance?

2368
03:07:24,935 --> 03:07:27,335
Is it, I mean, how do we know we're collecting

2369
03:07:27,436 --> 03:07:30,215
all of the tax we're supposed to be collecting as

2370
03:07:30,215 --> 03:07:33,920
an example. It certainly council member. We do inspections along

2371
03:07:33,960 --> 03:07:37,000
with financing code enforcement and the fire department. It's a

2372
03:07:37,000 --> 03:07:40,812
group effort. And each of our seven marijuana dispensary or

2373
03:07:40,812 --> 03:07:47,132
legal marijuana facilities are investigated collaboratively together. And then if

2374
03:07:47,172 --> 03:07:50,575
additionally, if there's any complaints, the police department receives. Uh,

2375
03:07:50,615 --> 03:07:54,015
we investigate those as well independently through our operations, through

2376
03:07:54,015 --> 03:07:57,573
the grant funds. And if I can add to that,

2377
03:07:57,573 --> 03:08:00,133
so you were asking about the, um, you know, what

2378
03:08:00,133 --> 03:08:03,393
are we looking at with, with those inspections? So, you

2379
03:08:03,393 --> 03:08:05,813
know, we're really looking at the distance and those issues

2380
03:08:05,914 --> 03:08:07,813
as part of the original approval when we're going out

2381
03:08:07,853 --> 03:08:12,213
and doing these inspections. We're looking at things like signage,

2382
03:08:12,213 --> 03:08:15,373
um, are they checking our IDs being checked. Right. So

2383
03:08:15,514 --> 03:08:17,333
we're going in and looking at how they are handling

2384
03:08:17,373 --> 03:08:20,773
the product, how the product is being marketed, how it's

2385
03:08:20,773 --> 03:08:24,053
being stored, um, just all of those requirements that exist

2386
03:08:24,474 --> 03:08:26,933
in the ordinance in terms of how they are going

2387
03:08:26,973 --> 03:08:30,453
to safely operate. That's what we're looking at. Our business

2388
03:08:30,634 --> 03:08:36,933
is also regulated for delivery services. They know. And I

2389
03:08:36,933 --> 03:08:40,893
don't have any information. I'm just raising the question, if

2390
03:08:40,893 --> 03:08:47,413
any of our license dispensaries or otherwise are doing deliveries,

2391
03:08:47,413 --> 03:08:53,093
because that's another way that young adults or emerging adults,

2392
03:08:53,093 --> 03:08:56,613
I'll say, uh, gain access. You're absolutely right. Uh, we

2393
03:08:56,653 --> 03:08:59,953
don't have any legal delivery services in chill ofista, but

2394
03:09:00,154 --> 03:09:02,933
there are a lot of illegal delivery services that deliver

2395
03:09:03,114 --> 03:09:05,987
in our city. And they don't check IDs. And as

2396
03:09:06,027 --> 03:09:08,227
you alluded to, they do sell to youth. And that's

2397
03:09:08,267 --> 03:09:11,427
a concern. And those are investigated by the PD under

2398
03:09:11,608 --> 03:09:16,664
this grant. So like I said, I made the motion.

2399
03:09:16,664 --> 03:09:19,984
I sleep, but maybe during my comments, I'm going to

2400
03:09:20,445 --> 03:09:24,024
seek consensus on a, on another matter related to cannabis.

2401
03:09:24,024 --> 03:09:28,824
So thank you. I very much appreciate the police department's

2402
03:09:28,864 --> 03:09:35,624
activities in procuring all these supplemental funds that augment your

2403
03:09:35,885 --> 03:09:40,664
work and continue to excel in everything you do. Thank

2404
03:09:40,685 --> 03:09:46,166
you, gentlemen. Thank you very much. 474, we have a

2405
03:09:46,206 --> 03:09:50,646
motion from District 2 and a second from District 4,

2406
03:09:50,646 --> 03:09:55,906
Madam Clerk. If you could please read the heading. Item

2407
03:09:56,007 --> 03:09:58,546
7. 4a is resolution of the city council of the

2408
03:09:58,546 --> 03:10:00,786
city of Chula Vista accepting a grant from the board

2409
03:10:00,786 --> 03:10:04,466
of state and community corrections and appropriating funds, for fist

2410
03:10:04,466 --> 03:10:07,986
vote required. Item 7. 4b is resolution of the city

2411
03:10:08,026 --> 03:10:10,546
council of the city of Chula Vista approving agreement number

2412
03:10:10,807 --> 03:10:15,746
BSCC 1430 - 26 with the board of state community

2413
03:10:16,807 --> 03:10:20,706
corrections for the proposition 64 public health and safety grant

2414
03:10:20,706 --> 03:10:23,906
program and item 7. 4C is resolution of the city

2415
03:10:23,946 --> 03:10:26,706
council of the city of Chula Vista, approving agreements with

2416
03:10:26,807 --> 03:10:30,146
SBCS corporation in San Diego Association of Governments for the

2417
03:10:30,167 --> 03:10:34,481
Proposition 64 Public Health and Safety Grant Program. Please vote.

2418
03:10:47,448 --> 03:10:51,867
Item is adopted unanimously. Um, we have now, we will

2419
03:10:51,907 --> 03:10:57,147
move to item eight. We have one last public speaker,

2420
03:10:57,147 --> 03:10:59,227
Madam Clerk, if you could please call the public speaker.

2421
03:11:00,810 --> 03:11:04,629
The public speaker is David Garcia Ozua.

2422
03:11:14,972 --> 03:11:19,870
Is that okay? Mayor Council David Garcia. How y'all doing?

2423
03:11:19,910 --> 03:11:23,150
I'm a development economist based on national city. I have

2424
03:11:23,171 --> 03:11:27,550
no business, client, or financial interests in Chillista. And I'm

2425
03:11:27,731 --> 03:11:32,306
not affiliated with any organization, officer candidate. My asses is

2426
03:11:32,306 --> 03:11:36,626
one thing. Direct staff to return with a brief visibility

2427
03:11:36,887 --> 03:11:41,266
and cost memo on adding council district level detail to

2428
03:11:41,306 --> 03:11:45,266
the core lease sales tax update the city RA receives.

2429
03:11:46,029 --> 03:11:52,950
From HDL companies. Let me address confidentiality directly because it's

2430
03:11:52,990 --> 03:11:56,790
the first objection this will meet. Revenue and tech section

2431
03:11:56,891 --> 03:12:01,270
code section 7056 makes sale and use of tax records

2432
03:12:01,451 --> 03:12:05,350
confidential. The city may not disclose what any individual businesses

2433
03:12:05,390 --> 03:12:07,910
pay or any figure that would reveal a specific business

2434
03:12:08,091 --> 03:12:11,957
operations. That constrain is real and I'm not asking the

2435
03:12:11,957 --> 03:12:15,375
city to test it. I'm asking for an aggregated data

2436
03:12:15,415 --> 03:12:19,615
only. The standard is set out in HDLL's own sales

2437
03:12:19,655 --> 03:12:23,811
and use tax reference manual. It's combining data for four

2438
03:12:23,851 --> 03:12:28,093
or more businesses with separate sellers permits. Maybe release publicly

2439
03:12:28,434 --> 03:12:30,973
so long as no single member account for 80 percent

2440
03:12:31,234 --> 03:12:36,109
or more of the group total. The manual expressly contemplates

2441
03:12:36,370 --> 03:12:40,109
geographic groupings, businesses in a single shopping center, for example.

2442
03:12:41,927 --> 03:12:47,546
And the city. Uh, RE publishes geographic aggregations of this

2443
03:12:47,546 --> 03:12:51,706
data, uh, page 57 of the proposed budget compares taxable

2444
03:12:51,706 --> 03:12:55,306
sales per capital across every city in the county, broken

2445
03:12:55,306 --> 03:12:58,506
out by business category. The city then draws a conclusion

2446
03:12:58,546 --> 03:13:01,793
from it. That the chill of the chill vista may

2447
03:13:01,814 --> 03:13:05,793
lack a diverse marketplace because residents are shopping outside citie

2448
03:13:05,793 --> 03:13:10,392
boundaries. That's the same tool one level up. I'm asking

2449
03:13:10,432 --> 03:13:15,352
for one level down. If it's disclosable across city lines,

2450
03:13:15,352 --> 03:13:19,953
it's disposable across city districts, city district lines. What caused

2451
03:13:19,953 --> 03:13:25,073
district lines under the same threshold. So publish district totals

2452
03:13:25,334 --> 03:13:28,433
where the threshold is met where a district doesn't meet

2453
03:13:28,534 --> 03:13:31,553
it. Flag and redact that district with a note stating

2454
03:13:31,654 --> 03:13:34,993
which stress hold failed rather than withholding the entire table.

2455
03:13:35,755 --> 03:13:39,574
And reported inside existing quarterly updates. So there's no new

2456
03:13:39,835 --> 03:13:44,241
report consultant or contract. Sales and use tact is one

2457
03:13:44,241 --> 03:13:47,601
of the general funds largest sources. The city makes district

2458
03:13:47,641 --> 03:13:51,281
level capital and service decisions without a public record of

2459
03:13:51,862 --> 03:13:55,601
what of where that revenue is generated publishing this aggregate

2460
03:13:55,942 --> 03:13:59,521
closest the gap without exposing any taxpayer. Uh, the full

2461
03:13:59,542 --> 03:14:03,504
detail is written in my comment on file. I'll ask

2462
03:14:03,544 --> 03:14:11,256
for a feasibility memo. Thank you. Thank you. That concludes

2463
03:14:11,296 --> 03:14:14,499
the public comments. Thank you. Uh, we will now move

2464
03:14:14,520 --> 03:14:19,507
to the city managers report. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Just

2465
03:14:19,507 --> 03:14:22,387
one brief comment. Um, I was made aware today that

2466
03:14:22,728 --> 03:14:26,467
some iPhone users are having difficulties. Um, submitting items on

2467
03:14:26,507 --> 03:14:30,067
our ACT app. And so, uh, staff has identified the

2468
03:14:30,107 --> 03:14:33,827
issue. We are actively working to resolve that. Uh, so

2469
03:14:33,827 --> 03:14:35,967
just a note to our community members. If you are

2470
03:14:36,088 --> 03:14:39,187
experiencing this issue, um, please submit your request via the

2471
03:14:39,208 --> 03:14:42,067
contact us option at the bottom of the city manager's

2472
03:14:42,107 --> 03:14:44,387
webpage and my team will route it to the appropriate

2473
03:14:44,488 --> 03:14:48,147
department. And we are again working quickly to try to

2474
03:14:48,147 --> 03:14:50,627
get that issue resolved with the app itself. Thank you.

2475
03:14:52,507 --> 03:14:55,326
Thank you very much. Um, mayor's report. I'm going to

2476
03:14:55,326 --> 03:14:58,806
go ahead and be as brief as possible. Um, we

2477
03:14:58,907 --> 03:15:03,366
had an exciting time at K1 speed celebrating some amazing

2478
03:15:03,707 --> 03:15:06,966
local drivers, uh, who have made a big impact in

2479
03:15:06,966 --> 03:15:10,966
the carting community. It was thrilling event filled with speed

2480
03:15:11,307 --> 03:15:15,926
competition, lots of high energy, fun with cheered on the

2481
03:15:16,267 --> 03:15:22,406
talented racers. Essentially these individuals actually went to the national

2482
03:15:22,427 --> 03:15:27,926
champions, um, ships. And so it was three members from

2483
03:15:28,027 --> 03:15:34,246
each state. So over 7, 000 individuals, uh, raced and

2484
03:15:34,246 --> 03:15:36,566
they were the top of the top. And we had

2485
03:15:36,907 --> 03:15:42,246
one individual come in 22nd place and one individual come

2486
03:15:42,267 --> 03:15:45,126
in forced place. So that was pretty neat. Um, I'm

2487
03:15:45,387 --> 03:15:51,366
a strong advocate for youth sports. And some of my

2488
03:15:51,406 --> 03:15:56,626
greatest fond memories are coaching my children and soccer. And

2489
03:15:56,626 --> 03:16:00,566
it was incredibly awesome to do that. Uh, as we

2490
03:16:00,566 --> 03:16:05,286
know, lights are a major issue for most athletic fields.

2491
03:16:05,286 --> 03:16:07,846
And I want to thank city staff for taking me

2492
03:16:07,886 --> 03:16:12,566
on tours of the budgeted items of the different fields,

2493
03:16:12,566 --> 03:16:17,286
baseball and soccer, uh, to be able to create lighting.

2494
03:16:17,850 --> 03:16:21,269
So the students or the children can go ahead and

2495
03:16:21,290 --> 03:16:25,269
be able to play for longer hours and practice longer.

2496
03:16:25,269 --> 03:16:29,109
Um, I had, speaking of coaching, I used to be

2497
03:16:30,010 --> 03:16:33,189
actually not only a board member, but a coach for

2498
03:16:33,370 --> 03:16:37,509
AYSO soccer. And I was able to help kick off

2499
03:16:37,549 --> 03:16:41,729
the fall season, uh, with an incredible kickoff event. And

2500
03:16:41,770 --> 03:16:44,229
I was just great to see so many of the

2501
03:16:44,229 --> 03:16:49,909
kids coming out to play soccer, uh, and scrimmage and

2502
03:16:49,909 --> 03:16:52,869
had a lot of great fun. As we know, working

2503
03:16:52,890 --> 03:16:55,909
on a team and playing on a team helped bring

2504
03:16:56,010 --> 03:17:00,549
together teamwork and mission goals to be able to be

2505
03:17:00,650 --> 03:17:05,874
successful. And lastly, I want to wish my wife a

2506
03:17:05,874 --> 03:17:11,154
very happy birthday to my great wife, Missy. I'm so

2507
03:17:11,175 --> 03:17:15,474
grateful for all your love and joy and happiness you

2508
03:17:15,495 --> 03:17:18,981
bring in my wife. Thank you very much. I will

2509
03:17:19,021 --> 03:17:22,341
go ahead and we will now move to, uh, the

2510
03:17:22,442 --> 03:17:27,183
member from district one. On Friday. I attended the higher

2511
03:17:27,684 --> 03:17:31,663
education task fork meeting here at council chambers. The meeting

2512
03:17:31,703 --> 03:17:36,543
featured presentations from staff about the future university and the

2513
03:17:36,583 --> 03:17:40,783
overview of the phase one development. The primary discussion was

2514
03:17:40,823 --> 03:17:44,703
about the form of governance and that our university should

2515
03:17:44,724 --> 03:17:51,743
have all the benefits and advantages possible in a region.

2516
03:17:52,004 --> 03:17:56,043
I want to thank all the many experts educators, our

2517
03:17:56,043 --> 03:17:58,463
staff and members of the public that came to voice

2518
03:17:58,484 --> 03:18:01,583
or perspective only. And that's the only way we're going

2519
03:18:01,583 --> 03:18:03,943
to be able to build together. And I want to

2520
03:18:03,943 --> 03:18:08,223
thank our city manager and Adriana Ralph that did a

2521
03:18:08,263 --> 03:18:12,303
wonderful presentation. I think that, you know, the next, the

2522
03:18:12,303 --> 03:18:15,423
two more meetings left. And this is the only way

2523
03:18:16,084 --> 03:18:18,783
we're together. We can shape the future of this university

2524
03:18:18,804 --> 03:18:23,173
in the region. Thank you. I will now recognize the

2525
03:18:23,194 --> 03:18:30,364
member from District 2. Um, I first wanted to seek

2526
03:18:30,364 --> 03:18:36,524
consensus from, um, the city council to initiate or to

2527
03:18:36,545 --> 03:18:40,604
invite the city manager to give us an update in

2528
03:18:40,604 --> 03:18:44,284
the next six months on how our cannabis industry is

2529
03:18:44,324 --> 03:18:51,236
doing. I'm very interested in understanding if we're meeting our,

2530
03:18:51,276 --> 03:18:56,676
our goals, uh, with these cannabis retailers. And I want

2531
03:18:56,676 --> 03:19:02,836
to see if there is a comparator group of retail

2532
03:19:02,836 --> 03:19:05,876
shops that we can look at to see if we're

2533
03:19:05,916 --> 03:19:09,530
doing well or not well. And, uh, I do realize

2534
03:19:09,711 --> 03:19:14,170
that it's a difficult or interesting industry, but I'm hoping

2535
03:19:14,191 --> 03:19:17,690
I can have consensus to do this at an appropriate

2536
03:19:17,711 --> 03:19:20,250
time when the city manager thinks it might be reasonable

2537
03:19:20,991 --> 03:19:26,410
to look at the status of our cannabis industry in

2538
03:19:26,410 --> 03:19:31,370
the city. Is there consensus for such a referral? In

2539
03:19:31,370 --> 03:19:36,953
city manager, you're good with that. Yeah. There's consensus. I

2540
03:19:36,953 --> 03:19:38,473
think I can go back with that. I think we

2541
03:19:38,494 --> 03:19:47,984
have consensus. So congratulations. Wonderful. Secondly, there's a memo. Um,

2542
03:19:48,025 --> 03:19:52,199
I'd like to move the appointment. I hope they didn't

2543
03:19:52,239 --> 03:19:56,119
butcher his name, but he is my current nomination to

2544
03:19:56,140 --> 03:20:00,359
serve on the Parks and recreation commission. Here's the vacancy.

2545
03:20:00,359 --> 03:20:04,199
And so, uh, in representation of district two, I think

2546
03:20:05,260 --> 03:20:12,679
this wonderful, um, community, uh, resident is going to help

2547
03:20:12,700 --> 03:20:17,079
us all as we work together to advance parks and

2548
03:20:17,119 --> 03:20:21,479
recreation in the city. So I move the appointment if

2549
03:20:21,479 --> 03:20:25,239
the second, um, I hope we can ratify this unanimously.

2550
03:20:27,835 --> 03:20:31,210
We have a motion in a second. Madam Clerk, if

2551
03:20:31,210 --> 03:20:35,150
you can please read the heading. Yes. And Mr. Mayor,

2552
03:20:35,150 --> 03:20:37,070
we do have one speaker on the side of you'd

2553
03:20:37,070 --> 03:20:40,212
like us to proceed with calling them. Yes, please. Um,

2554
03:20:40,793 --> 03:20:43,412
Robert, you have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment.

2555
03:20:46,685 --> 03:20:49,064
I was, you know, I walk away from one second

2556
03:20:49,645 --> 03:20:51,544
and I get skipped over and it's hard on the

2557
03:20:51,645 --> 03:20:54,264
phone when you're skipped over to be like, you know

2558
03:20:54,285 --> 03:20:56,024
how in person you're like, Hey, I'm here. I'm here.

2559
03:20:57,391 --> 03:21:00,330
And so, you know, that's just my little review. It's

2560
03:21:00,351 --> 03:21:02,410
first time it's ever happened. So I hope you guys

2561
03:21:02,431 --> 03:21:08,074
like the practice with like someone being missing. Secondly, uh,

2562
03:21:08,275 --> 03:21:15,134
I could appreciate Jose for you bringing someone from district

2563
03:21:15,715 --> 03:21:19,934
too. Um, you know, according to the application, that's, that's

2564
03:21:19,934 --> 03:21:24,094
what's going on here. Uh, my, you know, disappointment is

2565
03:21:24,134 --> 03:21:27,694
that the recommended from district too. And I'll get more

2566
03:21:27,734 --> 03:21:31,294
into that, I guess with the next, uh, council members,

2567
03:21:31,294 --> 03:21:39,360
uh, memo. But, um, you know, with these appointments, the,

2568
03:21:39,400 --> 03:21:45,600
the problem still is that on no quorum days, you

2569
03:21:45,600 --> 03:21:49,440
know, there, they're putting a cancellation. And how do you

2570
03:21:49,541 --> 03:21:52,480
know whether people are showing up? I don't know how

2571
03:21:52,480 --> 03:21:56,320
many of you watch the county of San Diego today,

2572
03:21:56,320 --> 03:21:59,040
but the same issues happening where they're having less and

2573
03:21:59,061 --> 03:22:01,480
less quorum. And then they're trying to change it. So

2574
03:22:01,621 --> 03:22:06,240
it's a majority of the members present versus the requirement

2575
03:22:06,280 --> 03:22:09,360
of like whatever the minimum is for us. It would

2576
03:22:09,381 --> 03:22:13,360
probably be, I don't know, maybe a district representative from

2577
03:22:13,381 --> 03:22:16,160
each one when we get down to minimums to be

2578
03:22:16,160 --> 03:22:23,304
able to hold the meetings, right? Anyways. Um, you know,

2579
03:22:23,485 --> 03:22:28,344
it, it's just the concerning thing when the, the meetings

2580
03:22:28,384 --> 03:22:31,384
are getting canceled. And then when I'm bringing it up

2581
03:22:31,424 --> 03:22:34,644
to the, you know, you guys at the top, you

2582
03:22:34,644 --> 03:22:38,904
guys aren't figuring out ways to be more proactive into

2583
03:22:38,925 --> 03:22:42,984
one getting more people here. But probably district representation that

2584
03:22:42,984 --> 03:22:44,344
that's going to be the word you guys are going

2585
03:22:44,344 --> 03:22:47,624
to use when you're appointing people. And believe me, every

2586
03:22:47,664 --> 03:22:50,264
time you appoint someone not from your district, we're all

2587
03:22:50,445 --> 03:22:52,504
going to scream it to the hills because it's not

2588
03:22:53,165 --> 03:22:57,064
district representation. It's a misleading thing when you say that.

2589
03:22:57,955 --> 03:23:03,594
So like I said, you're trying to point people, you

2590
03:23:03,594 --> 03:23:06,974
guys are changing language. I still think there's, uh, issues

2591
03:23:07,075 --> 03:23:10,654
with, uh, because your friend lives in a different district

2592
03:23:10,835 --> 03:23:13,914
than you would appoint them. So I'm glad Jose, you

2593
03:23:13,914 --> 03:23:16,494
haven't taken to that yet and pointed all the 30

2594
03:23:16,494 --> 03:23:19,374
seconds. Or maybe you have. Maybe I got to read

2595
03:23:19,374 --> 03:23:21,994
more into the other people and see who you, uh,

2596
03:23:22,195 --> 03:23:25,994
recommended. You know, that's the problem with not being, uh,

2597
03:23:26,675 --> 03:23:29,694
honest with our words and then saying we're doing district

2598
03:23:29,715 --> 03:23:32,734
deployments when we're not, we're going to play favorites and

2599
03:23:32,734 --> 03:23:34,706
it's going to show. So I'll show that in my

2600
03:23:34,706 --> 03:23:41,030
next comment. Thank you. Thank you. That concludes the public

2601
03:23:41,211 --> 03:23:45,410
speakers. Madam Clerk, if you get please read the heading.

2602
03:23:46,318 --> 03:23:49,817
Yes, this is ratification of the appointment of Matt Yag

2603
03:23:49,857 --> 03:23:54,621
Yagen to the parks and recreation commission. Please vote.

2604
03:24:03,623 --> 03:24:06,394
Item carries unanimously. I will now give it back to

2605
03:24:06,735 --> 03:24:12,421
the member from District 2. Uh, yes. So just a

2606
03:24:12,421 --> 03:24:20,549
couple of announcements on September on Monday, September 14th. We

2607
03:24:20,570 --> 03:24:24,629
are going to host our seniors meeting. We're not hosting

2608
03:24:24,669 --> 03:24:29,429
it on the typical day. Um, that we host because

2609
03:24:29,610 --> 03:24:32,835
it's Labor Day. So usually my meetings are the first

2610
03:24:33,016 --> 03:24:35,235
Monday of the month. And I'm just going to confirm

2611
03:24:35,256 --> 03:24:40,035
the date because I, uh, I think I received the

2612
03:24:40,035 --> 03:24:44,786
text right now. So yeah, it's Monday, September 14th. We

2613
03:24:44,786 --> 03:24:47,266
are going to be hosting at the Norman Park Senior

2614
03:24:47,266 --> 03:24:50,706
Center of representatives from serving seniors. This is a large

2615
03:24:50,807 --> 03:24:55,426
organization that provide services. And they're looking to increase their

2616
03:24:55,607 --> 03:24:59,346
presence in the city of Tulavista. Um, I look, I'm

2617
03:24:59,386 --> 03:25:03,986
looking forward to collaborating with them. Also on September 18th

2618
03:25:05,127 --> 03:25:10,546
are local museum that's situated over here on Garrett. You

2619
03:25:10,586 --> 03:25:13,906
can find it. It's right in front of friendship park.

2620
03:25:13,906 --> 03:25:19,106
We'll be open Friday evening and Sunday evenings, starting the

2621
03:25:19,146 --> 03:25:21,506
18th and the 20th of September. And they will be

2622
03:25:21,546 --> 03:25:28,466
hosting an exhibition. Uh, sharing, uh, the Japanese American life

2623
03:25:28,487 --> 03:25:33,666
experience as it's represented here in Chula Vista. I want

2624
03:25:33,666 --> 03:25:38,226
to commend the nonprofit organization that operates the Fledgling Museum

2625
03:25:39,527 --> 03:25:43,826
and commend them for their continued work to build civic

2626
03:25:43,866 --> 03:25:48,706
community and to build and support the interpretation of our

2627
03:25:49,047 --> 03:25:53,976
heritage here in the city. And last but not least,

2628
03:25:53,997 --> 03:26:00,056
I look forward to the opportunity to meet with residents.

2629
03:26:01,466 --> 03:26:05,685
On the following Monday. And I'll, in email, we'll go

2630
03:26:05,685 --> 03:26:10,485
out through my newsletter, um, discussing our topic. I'm hoping

2631
03:26:10,525 --> 03:26:16,354
to work. With, um, public safety. But I just need

2632
03:26:16,354 --> 03:26:19,234
to get confirmation for, for who might be able to

2633
03:26:19,415 --> 03:26:21,634
attend. But I'm hoping the hot team can come out

2634
03:26:22,455 --> 03:26:28,754
and meet residents on district to concerns. And, um, so

2635
03:26:29,895 --> 03:26:32,754
it may, I'm not going to announce the date yet,

2636
03:26:32,754 --> 03:26:36,434
but it is an emerging issue that, uh, the public

2637
03:26:36,855 --> 03:26:40,914
wants to have input on. And I look forward to

2638
03:26:40,954 --> 03:26:45,954
the opportunity of having such a forum and having our

2639
03:26:45,994 --> 03:26:51,794
dedicated personnel speak to the public directly about their concerns.

2640
03:26:51,794 --> 03:26:56,114
Uh, hopefully we can resolve what I consider to be

2641
03:26:56,455 --> 03:26:59,874
an accuracy as we work with the unhoused. It is

2642
03:26:59,895 --> 03:27:02,354
not a crime to be poor. We have to figure

2643
03:27:02,354 --> 03:27:07,074
out ways to work with these individuals and support them

2644
03:27:07,255 --> 03:27:14,434
as they seek better ways of living. Thank you. Thank

2645
03:27:14,474 --> 03:27:17,195
you, Mr. Mayor. That's the end of my comments. I

2646
03:27:17,235 --> 03:27:19,835
will now go ahead and recognize the member from District

2647
03:27:20,016 --> 03:27:28,199
3. Number one. District four. Thank you. I have, uh,

2648
03:27:28,320 --> 03:27:31,960
several nominations that I'm proud to make. We've got Chad

2649
03:27:32,000 --> 03:27:35,400
Jones for the veteran advisory commission. John Rogers for Traffic

2650
03:27:35,421 --> 03:27:41,240
Safety Commission. Mariana Garcia diz for sustainability. Uh, Aldo Brambilla

2651
03:27:41,261 --> 03:27:45,080
for measure A oversight. And Dr. Vernon Moore try to

2652
03:27:45,120 --> 03:27:48,600
review commission. Uh, I do need to, for transparency, I

2653
03:27:48,640 --> 03:27:52,920
do need to disclose that, uh, Dr. Moore and I

2654
03:27:52,960 --> 03:27:55,800
are both employees of the Sweetwater Union High School District.

2655
03:27:55,800 --> 03:27:59,000
More importantly than that, he is the assistant superintendent that

2656
03:27:59,021 --> 03:28:02,440
oversees, uh, the department for which I work. However, there

2657
03:28:02,480 --> 03:28:05,800
are two supervisors between he and I, um, and of

2658
03:28:05,800 --> 03:28:09,080
course this commission is unpaid volunteered work. I have received

2659
03:28:09,101 --> 03:28:14,200
a memo from our city attorney affirming that I can

2660
03:28:14,240 --> 03:28:17,800
still proudly vote for Dr. Vernin Moore. And he is

2661
03:28:17,800 --> 03:28:20,600
actually the only nominee that does not live in district

2662
03:28:20,701 --> 03:28:23,960
four of all the applications for that commission. There was

2663
03:28:23,960 --> 03:28:26,360
only one and I am nominating that person to measure

2664
03:28:26,541 --> 03:28:31,560
A. So after, um, explaining all that, I will move

2665
03:28:32,781 --> 03:28:39,839
to a point of five members listed. Second. Madam Clerk,

2666
03:28:39,839 --> 03:28:47,029
we have a motion in a second. We do have

2667
03:28:47,290 --> 03:28:48,789
one speaker on this item if you'd like us to

2668
03:28:48,810 --> 03:28:53,349
proceed with calling them? Yes, please. Um, the in -

2669
03:28:53,349 --> 03:28:57,829
person speaker is Angelica Martinez followed by our remote caller

2670
03:28:57,850 --> 03:28:58,229
Robert.

2671
03:29:11,046 --> 03:29:13,345
Good evening, Mayor and Council members. I'm asking you tonight

2672
03:29:13,606 --> 03:29:17,425
not to ratify the appointment of Dr. Vernon Moore to

2673
03:29:17,465 --> 03:29:22,505
the charter review commission. I reviewed Dr. Moore's application. He

2674
03:29:22,566 --> 03:29:28,865
describes himself using words such as transparency, equity, compliance, community

2675
03:29:28,966 --> 03:29:32,269
engagement and public trust. But I want to share with

2676
03:29:32,309 --> 03:29:35,709
you my personal experience with Dr. Vernon more because my

2677
03:29:35,730 --> 03:29:38,509
experience has been very different from what I read on

2678
03:29:38,530 --> 03:29:43,455
his application. Dr. Moore has been an assistant superintendent at

2679
03:29:43,476 --> 03:29:48,095
Sweetwater Union High School District since February 21st. In February,

2680
03:29:48,095 --> 03:29:52,768
2021. According to his own resume, his responsibilities having included

2681
03:29:53,109 --> 03:29:59,347
special education, student support services, and educational equity. I have

2682
03:29:59,368 --> 03:30:03,827
repeatedly reached out to district leadership seeking support and accountability

2683
03:30:03,848 --> 03:30:08,486
for my son who has a disability. In 2023, my

2684
03:30:08,526 --> 03:30:11,047
son was struck by a teacher. When I requested the

2685
03:30:11,068 --> 03:30:14,887
video, what I received was heavily pixelated, and I question

2686
03:30:15,068 --> 03:30:19,899
whether it had been altered. On May 27, 2025, my

2687
03:30:19,899 --> 03:30:24,033
son was assaulted by multiple students. He was jumped. He

2688
03:30:24,134 --> 03:30:27,755
was stomped on the head and knocked unconscious. I have

2689
03:30:27,755 --> 03:30:31,806
been asking Sweetwater for accountability ever since. I have also

2690
03:30:31,907 --> 03:30:35,086
requested my son to complete educational record at least 10

2691
03:30:35,086 --> 03:30:39,228
times since May, 2025. Eventually, I had to go to

2692
03:30:39,268 --> 03:30:44,348
the California Department of Education, CDE, found the district out

2693
03:30:44,348 --> 03:30:48,828
of compliance regarding providing those educational records. So in Dr.

2694
03:30:48,929 --> 03:30:52,808
Mar tells this council that he represents transparency, equity, and

2695
03:30:52,808 --> 03:30:57,171
public trust. My question is, where was that transparency when

2696
03:30:57,211 --> 03:31:02,113
my family was seeking for answers. Where was that equity

2697
03:31:02,134 --> 03:31:04,833
when my son needed someone in leadership to protect his

2698
03:31:04,833 --> 03:31:08,273
rights? And there's something else the public deserves to know.

2699
03:31:11,448 --> 03:31:15,167
Caesar Fernandez works for Sweetwater Union High School District. Dr.

2700
03:31:15,167 --> 03:31:19,107
Vernon Moore is an assistant superintendent, a senior administrator above

2701
03:31:19,147 --> 03:31:25,029
him in that same district's leadership structure. And now Caesar

2702
03:31:25,069 --> 03:31:28,469
Fernandez is asking this council to a point Dr. Moore

2703
03:31:28,509 --> 03:31:34,903
to the charter review commission. In July 13th proposed charter

2704
03:31:34,943 --> 03:31:38,343
amendments were sent back for further review. And now a

2705
03:31:38,343 --> 03:31:42,183
sweetwater employee is nominating a senior administrator from his own

2706
03:31:42,284 --> 03:31:45,932
employer to the commission involved in that review. That connection

2707
03:31:46,193 --> 03:31:49,772
matters. I'm not making legal determination tonight. I'm asking this

2708
03:31:49,953 --> 03:31:56,732
council to consider the parents of independence, transparency and impartiality.

2709
03:31:56,732 --> 03:31:59,052
Who else applied? Where are the qualified residents given the

2710
03:31:59,092 --> 03:32:05,264
same opportunity. What is the relationship between Mr. Fernandez and

2711
03:32:05,285 --> 03:32:08,224
Dr. Moore? And why was senior administrator from his own

2712
03:32:08,485 --> 03:32:12,304
employer selected? We don't need another resume filled with right

2713
03:32:12,304 --> 03:32:16,144
words. We need people whose actions demonstrate those words based

2714
03:32:16,144 --> 03:32:19,344
on my family's firsthand experience. I do not believe Dr.

2715
03:32:19,365 --> 03:32:23,984
Moore has demonstrated their transparency accountability or integrity that I

2716
03:32:24,024 --> 03:32:29,024
expect for someone entrusted with reviewing our city charter. Thank

2717
03:32:29,024 --> 03:32:36,397
you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Robert. Robert, you

2718
03:32:36,397 --> 03:32:42,332
have been unmuted. Please proceed with your comment. Well Bravo,

2719
03:32:42,332 --> 03:32:47,292
he's either Bravo. I can amend you for being transparent,

2720
03:32:47,292 --> 03:32:51,575
right? That, that is like the bare minimum. You know,

2721
03:32:51,676 --> 03:32:54,215
cause, you know, whether people like it or not, I'm

2722
03:32:54,236 --> 03:32:57,255
sure the list is a lot bigger and it's getting

2723
03:32:57,436 --> 03:33:01,150
narrowed down. And the part that I think everybody's wondering

2724
03:33:01,571 --> 03:33:02,830
is kind of the same thing I brought to the

2725
03:33:03,091 --> 03:33:07,710
human relations is that what is done in back rooms

2726
03:33:08,211 --> 03:33:12,128
will soon be brought to light. Because it's all public

2727
03:33:12,629 --> 03:33:16,952
paperwork. So even if you didn't pick the person, the

2728
03:33:16,952 --> 03:33:19,692
documents are all there of who applied and who you

2729
03:33:19,953 --> 03:33:23,932
chose over someone else. As an example, you chose someone

2730
03:33:24,033 --> 03:33:26,892
from district two. I'm going to leave out all names

2731
03:33:26,993 --> 03:33:31,297
and everything because it really doesn't matter. Right. Uh, that's

2732
03:33:31,337 --> 03:33:34,177
the problem with the district appointment is now you're appointing

2733
03:33:34,217 --> 03:33:37,240
people not from your district. Right. And you feel so

2734
03:33:37,421 --> 03:33:40,520
great to do it and go, we're going to represent

2735
03:33:40,941 --> 03:33:45,588
district too. Or I'm sorry. Four. Right. Or is it

2736
03:33:45,588 --> 03:33:48,308
two? I mean, I don't know the conflict for that

2737
03:33:48,649 --> 03:33:51,188
because he lives in a different district than what he's

2738
03:33:51,369 --> 03:33:55,372
going to be appointed to represent. We're going to fall

2739
03:33:55,393 --> 03:33:58,012
on to this favoritism where you guys are work buddies.

2740
03:33:58,849 --> 03:34:01,468
Right. And everybody knows it because you admitted to it,

2741
03:34:01,468 --> 03:34:03,948
which is great. You know, it's good to be truthful.

2742
03:34:03,948 --> 03:34:06,188
But like the problem that me and the city attorney's

2743
03:34:06,188 --> 03:34:09,308
office are having right now is, is there ethic goal

2744
03:34:09,569 --> 03:34:16,513
accountability or just financial accountability. And so ethically, that's the

2745
03:34:16,534 --> 03:34:19,393
problems where we're at now. And it's going to raise

2746
03:34:19,414 --> 03:34:23,394
more questions onto appointments through the same process. Because of

2747
03:34:23,394 --> 03:34:29,064
it. Um, you know, you asked for transparency within certain

2748
03:34:29,245 --> 03:34:33,064
government documents that I could see them beneficial. And then

2749
03:34:33,064 --> 03:34:36,344
here we are with transparency onto the full list of

2750
03:34:36,765 --> 03:34:39,624
people who applied and everything. And I doubt we'll get

2751
03:34:39,664 --> 03:34:44,403
that transparency. I'll have to CPRA that. Right. Um, you

2752
03:34:44,403 --> 03:34:48,723
know, like the city's departments are like battling each other

2753
03:34:48,904 --> 03:34:51,843
instead of working with each other. And so the same

2754
03:34:51,883 --> 03:34:55,283
thing happens within the office instead of Jose supporting you

2755
03:34:55,544 --> 03:34:58,323
and then making that appointment for district too. You're making

2756
03:34:58,344 --> 03:35:01,359
it for district four. And it's not going to be

2757
03:35:01,399 --> 03:35:06,052
a district representative. And the cat's out the bag. Every

2758
03:35:06,052 --> 03:35:08,612
time this happens now, it's going to be brought into

2759
03:35:08,652 --> 03:35:10,612
scrutiny. You're going to have to make a statement probably

2760
03:35:12,553 --> 03:35:16,737
friend, not an actual district representative. I mean, you could

2761
03:35:16,777 --> 03:35:20,097
probably have friends too that are. But you know, that's

2762
03:35:20,097 --> 03:35:24,890
where it, we're just playing into favoritism. You know, I

2763
03:35:24,930 --> 03:35:28,070
find it highly offensive that we're going to, you know,

2764
03:35:28,271 --> 03:35:31,997
like I said, do favors for our work buddies. Um,

2765
03:35:32,037 --> 03:35:38,679
and that's not unethical. Right. So, you know, I hope

2766
03:35:38,700 --> 03:35:41,639
everybody considers and looks in the mirror and goes, I'm

2767
03:35:41,679 --> 03:35:47,179
being ethical, not just financially, ethically, help liable. I'm not

2768
03:35:47,360 --> 03:35:51,892
muted. Thank you. I will go ahead and recognize the

2769
03:35:52,233 --> 03:35:56,027
member from District 3. I'm not going to let anyone

2770
03:35:56,368 --> 03:36:02,326
disrespect Dr. Vernimore. He's one of the highest decorated veteran

2771
03:36:02,427 --> 03:36:06,972
educators in the entire South County. Has received numerous honors,

2772
03:36:06,972 --> 03:36:10,755
including a proclamation from this city. In the last eight

2773
03:36:10,755 --> 03:36:13,702
months. He is well respect and not only in the

2774
03:36:13,702 --> 03:36:16,982
sweetwater school district, but all the surrounding school districts and

2775
03:36:17,003 --> 03:36:20,742
national city, South Bay School District, and also sent a

2776
03:36:20,782 --> 03:36:25,133
seederal and send a unified where he also worked. Um,

2777
03:36:25,154 --> 03:36:31,693
where agency's nonprofits and school districts across Southern California voucher

2778
03:36:31,714 --> 03:36:35,052
him and respect him. He is well - loved. And,

2779
03:36:35,052 --> 03:36:38,332
uh, I'm not going to let anyone disrespect Dr. Vernimore.

2780
03:36:38,332 --> 03:36:42,469
I do apologize. To Ms. Martinez for the very difficult

2781
03:36:42,730 --> 03:36:46,790
circumstance, her ner son went through. Uh, as a former

2782
03:36:46,891 --> 03:36:50,696
administrator. Uh, and former employee, the Sweetwater School District. I

2783
03:36:50,696 --> 03:36:52,096
know what that means. I know what that looks like.

2784
03:36:54,167 --> 03:36:57,307
Of a child going through a difficult situation. And going

2785
03:36:57,307 --> 03:37:01,272
through that. It's not easy. And a lot of parents

2786
03:37:01,693 --> 03:37:04,712
or parents of teenagers have all experienced some sort of

2787
03:37:05,293 --> 03:37:09,956
difficult circumstance in navigating through the public school system. And,

2788
03:37:09,956 --> 03:37:11,556
um, I just want to make that very clear to

2789
03:37:11,556 --> 03:37:15,258
the public that Dr. Vernimoreswell respected. And, uh, that he

2790
03:37:15,298 --> 03:37:18,862
has my absolute support. I yield back. I will recognize

2791
03:37:19,043 --> 03:37:26,191
the member from District 2. So, um, as I hear

2792
03:37:26,372 --> 03:37:30,411
the remarks, um, from both of our public speakers, I'm

2793
03:37:30,612 --> 03:37:34,838
just curious. As to the value and the opportunity that

2794
03:37:35,099 --> 03:37:39,078
any member of the public might have involunteering to serve

2795
03:37:39,078 --> 03:37:47,484
on a board. I'm hoping that people continue to apply

2796
03:37:48,225 --> 03:37:51,644
and that their personal lives or professional lives are not.

2797
03:37:56,366 --> 03:38:01,065
Presented in a negative light. I don't know any of

2798
03:38:01,086 --> 03:38:06,745
the circumstances. I also don't know any of the allegations

2799
03:38:06,926 --> 03:38:11,586
being made by Robert. But what is concerning to me

2800
03:38:11,607 --> 03:38:15,426
is that, uh, and, you know, this happened the last

2801
03:38:15,426 --> 03:38:19,186
time. I think when we appointed, uh, the general counsel

2802
03:38:21,127 --> 03:38:26,466
from Sweetwater, another resident of the city, that there were

2803
03:38:26,647 --> 03:38:32,466
comments. And I just don't know how we expect volunteers

2804
03:38:33,127 --> 03:38:39,586
to be part of our commissions if they are not

2805
03:38:39,586 --> 03:38:44,066
able to participate in a civic way without, um, being

2806
03:38:44,106 --> 03:38:49,287
challenged. I'm sure everyone has processes. Available to them to

2807
03:38:49,327 --> 03:38:56,017
submit concerns or submit complaints. But, um, I've never had

2808
03:38:56,038 --> 03:39:00,737
the opportunity to meet Mr. Vernon more. Dr. Bernard Moore,

2809
03:39:00,737 --> 03:39:04,737
but I am familiar with his work. You know, he's

2810
03:39:04,838 --> 03:39:09,826
a high level official. And I just hope that he

2811
03:39:10,007 --> 03:39:14,946
chooses not to stop participating because of the comments that

2812
03:39:15,047 --> 03:39:19,428
were made here. And I hope that anyone seeking justice

2813
03:39:19,609 --> 03:39:27,071
has that opportunity in the appropriate forum. Thank you. Madam

2814
03:39:27,111 --> 03:39:30,751
Clerk, we have, um, a motion and a second. Please

2815
03:39:30,751 --> 03:39:34,926
read the heading. This is item 11. 2 ratification of

2816
03:39:34,966 --> 03:39:37,566
the appointments of Dr. Vernon Moore to the charter review

2817
03:39:37,587 --> 03:39:41,966
commission, Aldo Brambilla to the measure A citizens oversight committee.

2818
03:39:41,966 --> 03:39:45,566
Mariana Garcia Diaz to the sustainability commission John Rogers to

2819
03:39:45,566 --> 03:39:49,166
the traffic safety commission and Chad Jones to the veterans

2820
03:39:49,206 --> 03:39:59,025
advisory commission. Please vote. Item carries unanimously.

2821
03:40:01,612 --> 03:40:05,111
Member from district 40 still have any more comments? No

2822
03:40:05,151 --> 03:40:08,976
report. Thank you. I will go ahead and see City

2823
03:40:09,016 --> 03:40:11,214
clerk. Do you have a report. I have no reports

2824
03:40:11,214 --> 03:40:17,316
this evening. Thank you. And Mr. Attorney. No report tonight,

2825
03:40:17,316 --> 03:40:19,636
Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Okay. Uh, we will now go

2826
03:40:19,657 --> 03:40:23,076
ahead and I want to wish everybody to have a

2827
03:40:24,217 --> 03:40:27,936
fun Labor Day. And remember what that is for. And

2828
03:40:27,977 --> 03:40:31,636
the next regular city council meeting will be on September

2829
03:40:32,377 --> 03:40:32,836
22nd.